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[CALL TO ORDER]

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>> A VERY GOOD MORNING TO YOU. I WOULD LIKE TO CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER.

OUR INVOCATION WILL BE LED BY NONE OTHER THAN MY FRIEND PASTOR JEFF OF SAN MICHAEL WEST BAPTIST

CHURCH. YOU WILL PLEASE ALL RISE. >> GRACIOUS HEAVENLY FATHER, I THANK YOU FOR SAN MARCOS, TEXAS. I THANK YOU FOR HAYS COUNTY, DRIPPING SPRINGS AND WOMEN BERLE LORD AND ALL OUR COUNTRY FOLKS AROUND HERE I JUST APPRECIATE EACH AND EVERY ONE OF THESE PEOPLE THAT SERVE OUR COMMUNITY. FATHER GOD, I PRAY OVER THEIR FAMILIES.

I DON'T WANT TO COME UP HERE AND MAKE A BIG POLITICAL PRAYER, LORD, I JUST WANT TO PRAY OVER MY PEOPLE. I LOVE THEM, LORD, AND I JUST PRAY FOR PEACE AND HARMONY, UNITY, FATHER GOD, THAT WE WILL PULL TOGETHER AS A NATION, AS THE STATE OF TEXAS, AS HAYS COUNTY TO BE ABLE TO ACCOMPLISH ALL THE THINGS THAT YOU WANT TO SEE DONE, LORD, TO REPRESENT THE PEOPLE, TO THE BEST OF OUR ABILITIES. LORD, I COME OUT OF A HOME THAT MAMA WAS A DEMOCRAT AND DADDY WAS A REPUBLICAN. LORD, I JUST THANK YOU FOR THAT, FOR I LEARNED A WHOLE BUNCH. AND SO I JUST PRAY OVER OUR PEOPLE TODAY, AS THEY MAKE THE DECISIONS FOR OUR COMMUNITY THEY WILL LOOK AT CONSEQUENCES DOWN THE ROAD MAYBE NOT THIS ROUTE AND FIGURE OUT A BETTER ROAD SO FATHER HELP US TO BE TRAILBLAZERS AT THE SAME TIME, LOOK THE AT SAFETY. I PRAY OVER OUR FIRST RESPONDERS LORD, OUR POLICE OFFICERS OVER OUR EMS, OVER OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT, OUR FIREMEN. FATHER GOD, I JUST PRAY YOU PROTECT THEM AND KEEP THEM SAFE AS DESERVE OUR COMMUNITY TO THE BEST OF THEIR ABILITIES, LORD, I PRAY OVER THE COVID-19 BUG THAT HAS BEEN BUGGING THE IS NOT OUT MUCH US.

I -- SNOT OUT OF US. I PRAY THAT YOU WILL ERADICATE THAT THING CONTINUE TO PUSH IT ON OUT LORDS, AND FATHER I PRAY OVER THE RACE ISSUES WE HAVE IN OUR NATION.

FATHER GOD, DID YOU NOT GIVE US A SPIRIT OF FEAR BUT OF POWER, LOVE AND AED MIND, 2 TIMOTHY SAYS, SO FATHER I THANK YOU FOR THAT AND I PRAY OVER THIS COMMUNITY THAT I LOVE SO MUCH.

THANK YOU FOR PUTTING ME HERE, LORD, TODAY AND I LOVE ALL OF OUR PEOPLE.

IN THE NAME OF CHRIST, I PRAY. AMEN. >> AMEN.

POWER OF LOVE. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.

AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. HONOR THE TEXAS FLAG. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THEE, TEXAS, ONE STATE UNDER GOD, ONE AND INDIVISIBLE. DOCTOR CARDENAS PLEASE CALL THE

ROLL. >> COMMISSIONER SNOOIG HERE. >> COMMISSIONER JONES.

>> HERE. >> COMMISSIONER SHELL. >> HERE.

>> COMMISSIONER SMITH. >> JUDGE BECERRA. >> HERE.

WE HAVE PUBLIC COMMENTS FRONT AND CENTER, AND JUST TO YOU GET A FOAL FOR WHAT'S GOING ON, I WILL GO STRAIGHT INTO OUR DISASTER DECLARATION UPDATE ON COVID-19, AND THEN I WILL GO STRAIGHT TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 22 BECAUSE I KNOW SOME OF YOU ARE HERE FOR THAT, AS WELL AS OTHERS THAT ARE BAILIFF HAS NOTED. PUBLIC COMMENTS.

[PUBLIC COMMENTS]

THOSE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO HAVE SUBMITTED A PUBLIC PARTICIPATION WITNESS FORM WILL NOW HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK ON NONAGENDA RELATED TOPICS. UNFORTUNATELY, NO ACTION MAY BE TAKEN BY THE COURT DURING PUBLIC COMMENTS, AS WE ARE EXPECTED NOT TO RESPOND.

ANY QUESTIONS WILL BE TAKEN AS RHETORICAL. ALL COMMENTS ARE OPINIONS OF THE SPEAKER AND NOT MEANT TO BESLY CONSTRUED AS TRUTH. PLEASE KEEP YOUR COMMENTS AND LANGUAGE CIVIL AND RESPECTFUL, OR YOU WILL FOR FIT -- FORFEIT THE REMAINDER OF YOUR TIME.

IF THE SPIRIT OF RESPECT PLEASE SILENCE YOUR CELL PHONES. AND FIRST UP TO SPEAK MR. DAN

LYON. >> THANK YOU, JUDGE BECERRA AND COMMISSIONERS.

FIRST OF ALL, I'D LIKE TO THANK YOU Y'ALL FOR SPARING THOSE TWO OFFICERS' LIVES THERE IN LOS ANGELES. IT WAS TRULY A MIRACLE THAT THEY BOTH WEREN'T KILLED.

AND I'D LIKE EVERYBODY TO KEEP IT FOREMOST IN THEIR MINDS THATR LIVES IN HIS HANDS.

SO ANYWAY. LET ME GET TO A COUPLE OF DISBURSEMENTS HERE THAT ARE VERY PUZZLING. WE'VE GOT ENTERPRISE FM TRUST SEPTEMBER 2020, VEHICLE LEASES

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FOR US DEPARTMENT. $1290.78. NOW WHAT DOES THE PARKS DEPARTMENT NEED WITH VEHICLES? IT JUST BAFFLES ME. BUT IT'S $1290 WORTH.

ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE GOT JFC A FOUNDATION OF PHILANTHROPIC FUNDS, PADILLA CONSULTATION COUNTYWIDE OPERATIONS, $2844.75. BEFORE WE EVEN GET THE MONEY IN, Y'ALL ARE SPENDING IT. ALL RIGHT. LAST WEEK THE COURT APPROVED A TAX RATE, WHICH WILL SUBSTANTIALLY RAISE THE EFFECTIVE TAX RATE.

I WOULD ENCOURAGE EVERYONE IN THE VIEWING AUDIENCE TO EITHER COME TO NEXT TUESDAY'S COURT MEETING OR TO SEND AN E-MAIL WITH THEIR OBJECTIONS TO THIS FOOLISH ACT.

WHY IS THIS FOOLISH? IF YOU LOOK AT AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 18 YOU WILL SEE THAT MANY PEOPLE IN HAYS COUNTY ARE ALREADY HAVING TROUBLE PAYING THEIR BILLS.

IN A TIMES COUNTY SHOULD COME TO THE AID OF ALL ITS CITIZENS, THE COMMISSIONERS COURT IS DOING THE OPPOSITE. I'VE BEEN AT THIS PODIUM WEEK AFTER WEEK, PRACTICALLY BEGGING THE COURT TO CONSIDER THE PLIGHT OF THE CITIZENS OF HAYS COUNTY AND TO DECREASE THE TAX BURDEN.

BUT YOU HAVE DONE JUST THE OPPOSITE. I'M BEGINNING TO BELIEVE THAT YOU ARE DELIBERATELY TRYING TO BANKRUPT LONGTIME HAYS COUNTY RESIDENTS TO FORCE THEM TO SELL THEIR HOMES. A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO, I WAS IN SAN MARCOS BUSINESS EXPO AND I TALKED TO A REPRESENTATIVE FROM THE GREAT ARE SAN MARCOS PARTNERSHIP.

THIS PERSON SAID THAT SAN MARCOS CITY OFFICIALS IN THE GSMP HAD PLANS TO GENTRYFY THE VICTORIA GARDENS AREA OF SAN MARCOS ONE BLOCK AT A TIME. I WONDER IF THEY TOLD THE RESIDENTS. IT IS CLEAR THIS COURT HAS NO THINK FOR THE PEOPLE OF HAYS COUNTY. YOU REFER TO US AS, QUOTE, STAKEHOLDERS, UNQUOTE.

A LEGAL TERM WHICH IN ITS LARGER TRANSLATION COULD MEAN SQU SQUATTERS.

MORE NARROWLY DEFINED IT MEANS A PEOPLE WHO HOLDS A PROPERTY WHILE TWO OR MORE PARTIES CONTEST ITS OWNERSHIP. THIS IS ACCORDING TO COCHRAN'S LAW DICTIONARY.

I WONDER HOW MANY PEOPLE KNEW THAT EVEN IF YOU PAID FOR YOUR PROPERTY THERE ARERS WHO ARE DISPUTING ITS OWNERSHIP. PERHAPS EVEN THE BANK OF NEW YORK MELLON.

I KNOW THIS COURT DID NOT CREATE SWAMP BUT YOU SEEM ALL TOO COMFORTABLE WALLOWING AROUND IN IT. WHY SHOULDN'T YOU? YOU'RE GETTING PAID MORE THAN

EVER. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> THANK YOU MR. LIE YOCHBLET

NEXT UP MISS KELLY PURRIER. >> THANKS, JUDGE. THANKS COMMISSIONERS FOR

LISTENING. -- LYON. >> YEAH, I'M BACK.

THANK YOU FOR GIVING US THE TIME TO TALK. WE STILL ARE HERE WANTING YOU TO KNOW WE BACK THE BLUE IN. PREVIOUS COMMISSIONS ARE COURT SECTIONS I MENTION THE FACT THAT MY HUSBAND'S PATROL CAR HAD 157,000 MILES ON IT. AND HAD NO EMERGENCY LIGHTS OR SIRENS. JUDGE BECERRA, YOU LATER CAME BACK TO COURT AND MADE IT A POINT TO SAY THAT MY HUSBAND IS NOT A DAWN PATROL. HE'S NOT A PATROL DEPUTY AND THAT IS A TRUE STATEMENT. MY HUSBAND IS NOT ON PATROL. HE IS, IN FACT, ONE OF THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE MENTAL HEALTH ISSUE DEPUTIES. IN THIS ROLE HE RESPONDS TO COUNT I "WIDE -- COUNTYWIDE TO ASSIST PATROL DEPUTIES DEALING WITH HAZE THEY CITIZENS SUFFERING FROM MENTAL ILLNESS. HE IS ALSO RESPONSIBLE FOR TRANSPORTING THESE MENTALLY ILL PATIENTS TO HOSPITALS IN AUSTIN, SAN ANTONIO, AND AS FAR AWAY AS KERRVILLE.

LET THAT SIN BEING IN FOR A MINUTE. HE TRANSPORTS MENTALLY ILL PATIENTS AS FAR AWAY AS KERRVILLE IN A 10-YEAR-OLD SWREK 157,000 MILES ON IT -- VEHICLE WITH 157,000 MILES ON IT. THIS IS AN UNACCEPTABLE RISK FOR HIM AND THE PATIENTS HE'S TRANSPORTING. JUDGE, YOU ALSO MADE THE POINT THAT THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE RECEIVED MONEY FOR NEW VEHICLES IN THE 2020 BUDGET. AGAIN, THAT IS A TRUE STATEMENT.

BUT ARE YOU AWARE THAT AS WE DISCUSS THE 2021 BUDGET THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE STILL HAS NOT RECEIVED VEHICLES ORDERDS -- ORDERED FROM OCTOBER 2019 FOR THE 2020 BUDGET? THE SCHER SIEVE RESPONSIBLE FOR MAINTAINING A FLEET OF MORE THAN 400 VEHICLES.

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IN ORDER TO DO THIS AND KEEP THE DEPUTIES IN EVERY DIVISION SAFE, NEW VEHICLES MUST BE PURCHASED EVERY YEAR. IF YOU FAIL TO PROVIDE FUNDING FOR THESE ESSENTIAL EQUIPMENT, THE -- YOU PLACE OUR DEPUTIES AND OUR CITIZENS TO AT UNDUE RISK.

JUDGE, YOU SAY THAT YOU ARE FOR THE FRONT LINE AND NOT FOR DEFUNDING.

BUT DEFUNDING AND NOT FUNDING ARE ONE AND THE SAME. WE WANT OUR COMMISSIONERS TO SUPPORT OUR OFFICERS AND OUR SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT AND FULLY FUND.

THANK YOU. >> MISS BRITTANY CASTANO. >> GOOD AFTERNOON, YOUR HONOR, GOOD MORNING COMMISSIONERS. THANK YOU FOR GIVING ME SOME TIME THIS MORNING.

THE LAST TIME I WAS HERE I SPOKE TO YOU ABOUT THE HAYS COUNTY JAIL COMPROMISING MY SEALED INFORMATION TO MY STALKER AND HANDING IT TO HIM IF WRITING. I'D LIKE IT SHARE WITH YOU THE CHALLENGES I'VE GONE THROUGH IN THE LAST SEVERAL WEEKS JUST GETTING READY TO OR JUST TRYIN TO GET DOCUMENTATION OF SAID OCCURRENCE AND TRY TO FIND OUT HOW IT'S GOING TO BE FIXED.

I HAVE IN FRONT OF ME A COPY OF THE AUDIT THAT WAS DONE AT THE JAIL SIMPSON WEEKS AFTER THIS OCCURRENCE OCCURRED, AND I HAD REACHED OUT TO THE JAIL, THE TEXAS COMMISSION OF JAIL STANDARDS. I'VE SPOKEN. I'VE FILED THREE COMPLAINTS WITH THEM OF THE ALL THREE HAVE BEEN DENIED BECAUSE THEY SAY THIS ISN'T THEIR PURVIEW.

I'M ASKING WHOSE PURVIEW IS IT? BECAUSE I'VE CALLED MORE THAN 17 DEPARTMENTS.

I HAVE FILED MORE THAN 32 THE LAST 45 DAYS, AND I'VE GOTTEN NOWHERE NO, WHERE.

THIS MAN IS BEING RELEASED THIS WEEK. AND IT'S ALSO COME TO MY ATTENTION HAD A THE TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF VICTIM SERVICES HAS BEEN DEFRAUDING EVERY REGISTERED VICTIM IN THEIR IBSS SYSTEM. NUMBER ONE THE IBSS SYSTEM DOES NOT WORK. WE'RE PAYING MILLIONS OF DOLLARS TO NOTIFY VICTIMS OF UPDATES OF THEIR ATTACKERS' CRIMES. I HAVE NOT ONCE IN TWO YEARS BEEN NOTIFIED CORRECTLY.

MOST RECENTLY, HALF OF THE REMAINING CONDITION OF HIS TIME SERVED WAS CUT IN HALF.

NO ONE TOLD ME. I FOUND OUT ON ACCIDENT. SO I'VE DONE SOME RESEARCH AND I HAVE FOUND OUT THE ELECTRONIC MONITORS THAT ARE ACTUALLY ADHERED OR AS PART OF THE PAROLE CONDITIONS DON'T ACTUALLY TRACK GPS. I'D LIKE TO READ TO YOU AN EXCERPT OF THE E-MAIL NOTIFICATION I RECEIVED FROM THE STATE.

IT SAYS IS TO NOTIFY YOU THAT THE TDCJ ISSUED A PAROLE SUPERVISION CERTIFICATE ON 8-31-2020 FOR RELEASE THAT REQUIRES ELECTRONIC MONITORING FOR THIS OFFENDER.

THE OFFENDER WILL SERVE THE REMAINDER OF THEIR SENTENCE UNDER THE SUPERVISION OF A PAROLE OFFICER. ELECTRONIC MONITORING IS DESIGNED TO PROVIDE THE OFFENDER'S LOCATION 24 HOURS A DAY, 7 DAYS A WEEK TO THE SUPERVISING PAROLE OFFICER.

DUCHB THAT I'VE SPOKEN WITH THE MANUFACTURER OF SAID DEVICE THAT'S THEY DON'T EVEN HAVE A GPS CHIP, MUCH LESS CAN THEY PROVIDE THIS INFORMATION TO THE PAROLE OFFICER.

I CALLED MARKS MALL AND SPOKE TO HIM MYSELF AND CONFIRMED THIS INFORMATION.

I ALSO CALLED ATTENDEE WHO MANUFACTURERS ALL THE TEXAS DEVICES PURCHASES.

IN HAZE COUNT A LONE THERE ARE 4700 ELECTRONICMONITORS IN USE. 2900 OF THOSE DO HAVE THE GPS CAPABILITY, BUT I'M BEING TOLD THAT MY STALKER DOESN'T FOR THE UPGRADE VERSION BECAUSE HE'S NOT A VIOLENT OFFENDER. I'M SORRY. I WAS STALKED.

HE VIOLATED A PROTECTIVE ORDER 478 TIMES. THE 478TH WAS WHEN THIS JAIL GAVE HIM MY SEALED INFORMATION AFTER I HAD MOVED. I SPENT SIX MONTHS IN MY FAMILY'S ATTIC HIDING FROM THIS MAN AND HAYS COUNTY HANDED ME OVER ON A SILVER PLATTER AND NOW I REGRET EVER PRESSING CHARGES OR HELPING ANY OF HAYS COUNTY BRING HIM DOWN FOR HIS OTHER CRIMES BECAUSE UNFORTUNATELY THEY LEFT ME OUT TO HANG. I HAVE ZERO HOPE OF PROTECTION.

THE ELECTRONIC MONITOR MEANS NOTHING. I'VE REPORTED THIS TO EVERY

AGENCY THAT YOU CAN IMAGINE AND I'VE GOTTEN NOWHERE. >> I KNOW WE'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO COMMENT IN THIS PART BUT I CAN'T RESIST. WILL YOU PLEASE GIVE OUR BAILIFF

ANY INFORMATION AWOULD YOU LIKE MY OFFICE TO HAVE,ED. >> I WILL.

I EVEN HAVE A COPY OF THE PROTECTIVE ORDER. >> I'LL LEAN IN AGGRESSIVELY AND PLEASE INCLUDE YOUR CONTACT INFORMATION BECAUSE I PROMISE RESPONSE.

>> I VERY MUCH APPRECIATE THAT. >> YOU WENT TO THE PLACE WHERE IT CAME TO MY EARS AND IT WILL

NOT BE IGNORED. >> I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT. >> THANK YOU AND I'M SORRY

THAT'S HAPPENED TO YOU. >> IT'S GREATLY APPRECIATED. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU, MA'AM. MR. LARRY GAYOS. >> GOOD MORNING.

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MY NAME IS LARRY GAYOS. I'VE BEEN A RESIDENT OF HAYS COUNTY FOR OVER 65 YEARS.

I RECENTLY RETIRED FROM CDC SAN MARCOS AFTER 32 1/2 YEARS OF DEDICATEDS.

THROUGHOUT MY LIFETIME I'VE BEEN A DEDICATED MEMBER OF THIS COMMUNITY PROVIDING COUNTLESS HOURS AND MAINTAINING ELECTRICS FOR 32 YEARS. I'VE BEEN DISAPPOINTED IN RECENT TIMES TO LEARN THAT THE INTEGRITY OF THE ELECTRIC PROCESS HAS BEEN UNDER FIRE.

IF SOMEBODY WHO INVESTED IN OUR COMMUNITY AND THE ELECTION PROCESS I TAKE THE QUESTIONS OF INTEGRITY OF THE ELECTION PROCESS PERSONALLY. HAVING WORKED IN VARIOUS CAPACITY FROM EQUIPMENT SET UP, CUT BE TABS, POLL PLACE POSITIONS TO CENTRAL COUNT, I HAVE SEEN MANY ASPECTS OF THE ENTIRE ELECTION PROCESS AND CAN ACCOUNT FOR THE OVERSIGHT THAT EXISTS THROUGHOUT. I'VE WORKED TWO DIFFERENT ELECTIONS ADMINISTRATORS DURING MY TENURE, AND I CAN ASSURE YOU THAT JENNIFER ANDERSON IS PROFESSIONAL, HONEST, AND HAS A STRONG KNOWLEDGE OF HER JOB. UNDER HER LEADERSHIP INTEGRITY HAS BEEN MAINTAINED AND CASHZ TAKEN TO -- CARES TAKEN TO AVOID PROCEDURES. MISS ANDERSON PROVIDES WELL SPOKEN AND UNBIASED TREATMENT OF INDIVIDUALS FROM ALL POLITICAL PARTIES.

IN GENERAL, SHE RUNS A TIGHT SHIP. HOWEVER, THIS IS NECESSARY TO KEEP ORDER AND MAINTAIN INTEGRITY. I CAN ASSURE YOU THAT IF THERE WAS ANYTHING THAT WOULD CAUSE ME TO QUESTION THE INTEGRITY OF OUR ELECTIONS STRAIT OUR, I WOULD

NOT CONTINUE WORKING ELECTIONS. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. >> THANK YOU, SIR --

ADMINISTRATOR. >> REPORTER: NEXT UP WE HAVE MISS SHEILA RAIN.

>> I'VE BEEN PRAYING ABOUT WHAT TO SAY I FEEL LIKE DAVID IN FRONT OF AN ARMY WHEN I COME HERE AND I KNOW JUST A COUPLE OF YOU BUT I ASK THAT MY GOD WILL GIVE ME WORDS TO SAY TO LET YOU KNOW MY HEART. I DO HAVE A DOG IN THE LAW ENFORCEMENT FIGHT.

MY HUSBAND WAS WORKED FOR HAYS COUNTY FOR 28 THE HE SERVED FIVE SHERIFFS AND I'VE NEVER FELT FROM HIS SHARING THERE'S A WOLF AT THE DOOR OF OUR COUNTY SO PROTECTIVE IS WHAT MOTIVATES ME TO COME AND SPEAK TO YOU TODAY. I'M ASKING YAUSMT I KNOW Y'ALL ARE IN ELECTED POSITIONS -- Y'ALL AND I'M ASKING AND ENCOURAGING YOU TO PLEASE FIND THE JAIL TO -- THAT WOMAN WHO SPOKE HERE IS A REASON HER LIFE IS THREATENED. THERE ARE SOME STORIES LIKE THAT ALL OVER. AND THE JAIL. WE HAVE A JAIL SITTING THERE THAT'S NOT GOING TO BE FUNDED. YOU SAY YOU SUPPORT LAW ENFORCEMENT AND YOU'RE NOT UNDERFUNDING BUT Y'ALL CAN FIND -- I BUDGET A HOUSE OF 11 KIDS ON A POLICE OFFICER'S SALARY.

I CAN FIND THE MONEY FOR THE BASEBALL QISMT IT'S ALL A MATTER OF PRIORITIES AND WE DO NOT WANT TO COMPROMISE WITH OUR JAIL THAT'S OPENED. -- EQUIPMENT.

I FEEL LIKE YOU'RE CASTING THE DOGS IN THE FIGHT BONES HAD YOU GIVE A COUPLE OF CARS AND STABLES BUT YOU BUDGET MILLION. WE STILL HAVE SWAT TEAMS THAT HAVE TACTICAL GEARS. THESE PIECES THAT ARE INTERRY CAM.

I CAN GO ON FOREVER. THE CARS ARE STILL AN ISSUE. IT'S NOT ENOUGH AND WE NEED Y'ALL TO RISE TO THE OCCASION AND FIND THE FUNDING TO SUPPORT LAW ENFORCEMENT.

IF I HIRE A BABY-SITTER IF THEIR NAME IS ON A PEDOPHILE OFFENDER LIST I'M GOING TO FIND A NEW CANDIDATE AND WE HAVE A MAN RUNNING FOR ELECTION THAT YOU WILL LINE YOURSELF WITH THAT HAS HIS NAME ON THE BRADY LIST. WE TALK ABOUT INTEGRITY. THAT MAN JUST TALK ABOUT INTEGRITY. YOU SIT WITH A CHAIR AND I APPEAL TO YOU TO BE A MAN OF INTEGRITY AND HONOR AND HONESTY TO RISE TO THE ELECTION AND YOU'RE CALLING IN YOUR ELECTED POSITION TO KEEP THAT CALLING, GOU DO IT WORTHY OF US. YOU KNOW, OFTENTIMES THE PEOPLE WHO FIGHT AGAINST LAW ENFORCEMENT ARE MORE OF AN ALARM MORE OF A VALIDATION OF A NEED FOR THEM. THAN THOSE OF US WHO LOVE THEM AND SUPPORT THEM.

MY HUSBAND PUTS ON A BULLETPROOF VEST EVERY DAY OF HIS LIFE AND IT'S NOT A HUGE SALARY EVERY DAY OF HIS LIFE AND IT'S COVERED IN SWEAT AND AIRS IT OUT. IF Y'ALL ARE IN SAFE POSITIONS HELP OUR Y'ALL TO SERVE WITH THE EQUIPMENT THEY NEED IT SERVE IN THE SAFEST MANNER POSSIBLE AND IN A MANNER THAT KEEPS OUR COMMUNITY SAFE. THIS IS A WAY OF LIFE THAT I'M FIGHTING FOR HERE WITH MY VOICE TODAY. I APPEAL TO Y'ALL TO KNOW YOUR CANDIDATES. YOU ALIGN YOURSELF WITH A MAN THAT REALLY ALARMS ME.

MY HUSBAND HAS SERVED FOR BOTH PARTIES. I'M NOT A REPUBLICAN OR A DEMOCRAT. I WANT TO STAND FOR INTEGRITY AND HONOR, AND WHEN YOU HAVE A MAN WHOSE NAME IS ON THE BRADY LIST AND YOU ALIGN YOURSELF WITH HIM THAT IS VERY ALARMING.

-- HIRE A BABY-SITTER ON A REGISTERED PEDOPHILE LIST. THANK YOU.

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>> NEXT UP MR. MIKE LEIGH. >> GOOD MORNING. THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO APPEARED SPEAK. I WON'T GO WITHOUT SAYING I DO HAVE SOME CONCERNS I'D LIKE TO EXPRESS. I'M CONCERNED WHEN I HEAR THINGS ABOUT LAW ENFORCEMENT NOT RECEIVING THE SUPPORT, THE FULL SUPPORT THAT IT NEEDS. NOW I HAVE PERSONALLY -- I'VE HAD A PERSONAL GRIPE WITH LAW ENFORCEMENT SINCE MY FATHER WAS KILLED WHEN I WAS A JUNIOR IN HIGH SCHOOL AND MY UNCLE WAS KILLED ACROSS THE STREET IN THE HOUSE I GREW UP IN.

SINCE I WAS A THIRD YEAR LAW STUDENT I WOULD TRIED CASES TO REPRESENT DEFENDANTS.

SO I HAVE A GRIPE WITH LAW ENFORCEMENT BUT NOT TO THE POINT WHERE IT'S RIDICULOUS.

I THINK THAT LAW ENFORCEMENT NEEDS TO BE SUPPORTED BECAUSE IF SOMETHING HAPPENS BADLY TO SOMEONE THEY ARE NOT GOING TO CALL ANYONE SITTING UP HERE. THEY ARE NOT GOING TO CALL ME.

THEY ARE GOING TO CALL SOMEBODY WITH A GUN AND A BADGE, SO THEY NEED TO BE FULLY SUPPORTED, FULLY SUPPORTED BECAUSE THE DANGER IS NOT -- IT'S DANK THE TO.

I DON'T NECESSITY THAT YOU'VE EVER HAD A GUN PULLED ON YOU OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT BUT IT'S NOT A FUN THING. I HAVE. BUT I HAVE OTHER THINGS ON MY MIND LIKE THE BLACK LIVES MATTER. BLACK LIVES MATTER BLACK LIVES IN THE WOMB WOULD MATTER. THE FACT THAT BLACK LIVES MATTER AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED IS JUST A SLOGAN IT. DOESN'T MEAN ANYTHING. IT'S BLACK LIVES THAT CAN VOTE THAT MATTER. THE ONES THAT CAN'T VOTE ARE THE ONES THAT VOTE THE WAY THEY ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO LIKE ME. YOU DON'T MATTER. AND I JUST MY MAIN THING TO THIS MORNING THE LAW ENFORCEMENT -- LAW ENFORCEMENT EVEN THOUGH I HAVE A GRIPE WITH THEM AND WILL CONTINUE TO HAVE A GRIPE WITH THEM AS LONG AS I'M PRACTICING LAW BUT THAT'S MY JOB.

THAT'S ON A PROFESSIONAL BASIS AND THAT'S THE WAY I TRY TO KEEP IT.

I HAVE GRIPES WITH JUDGES AND D.A.S, AND I KNOW THERE HAVE BEEN MORE ON THE SAME SQUAD THAN THAN WHEN I STARTED WORKING ON THE COUNCIL OF FIRST APPEARANCE PROJECT WHICH I'M GLAD IT WORK ON AND GLAD TO HELP GET SOME PEOPLE PERHAPS -- OUT OF JAIL WHO SHOULDN'T BE IN THERE ANYWAY. BUT I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO SERVE THE PEOPLE, ALL THE PE PEOPLE. NOT JUST PEOPLE OF COLOR, NOT JUST PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT OF COLOR BUT ALL THE PEOPLE. AND I BELIEVE LAW ENFORCEMENT EVEN THOUGH THEY ARE NOT PERFECT. THEY AT LEAST ATTEMPT TO SERVE ALL THE PEOPLE AND I BELIEVE.

THAT AND I KNOW THAT BECAUSE I'VE GOT A FEW BREAKS MYSELF. THERE WERE A FEW TIMES I WAS SPEEDING AND THEY LET ME GO. BUT I CAN'T URGE STRONGLY ENOUGH THAT SUPPORT BE FULLY GIVEN TO

LAW ENFORCEMENT AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE. >> THANK YOU, SIR.

AND OUR NEXT SPEAKER MR. ROLANDO SALCEDO. >> UNFORTUNATELY I CAN'T JOIN Y'ALL THIS MORNING BECAUSE THE -- BROKEN. SO I JUST CAME BEFORE Y'ALL BECAUSE I'D LIKE TO SHARE WITH Y'ALL AND GIVE PROPS AND PRAISE TO OUR ELECTIONS ADMINISTRATION OFFICE JENNIFER AND VIRGINIA CRUZ HAVE BEEN WORKING STEADILY TO PREPARE US FOR THIS UNPRECEDENTED ELECTION, WHICH IS ALSO VERY CRUCIAL AND IMPORTANT IN OUR TIME OF UNREST.

I FEEL HONORED AND PRIVILEGED AS A CITIZEN THAT THIS WILL BE MY FIRST ELECTION THAT I GET TO SERVE ON THE BALLOT BOARD TO INFORM AND EDUCATE MYSELF AS A PRIVATE CITIZENS TO BE ABLE TO SEE THE FOUR DEMOCRATIC -- FULL DEMOCRATIC PROCESS IN ACTION. I WORKED POLLS BEFORE, AND I'VE DONE CAMPAIGN AND BLOCK WALKING, AND THIS IS JUST ANOTHER STEP IN ME, AGAIN, INFORMING AND EDUCATING MYSELF AS A PRIVATE CITIZEN INTO HOW THE DEMOCRATIC PROCESS WORKS.

IN THE LAST FEW YEARS I HAVE SEEN MANY PEOPLE COME UP HERE AND CRITICIZE OUR ELECTIONS ADMINISTRATION OFFICE, ACCUSING THEM OF, YOU KNOW, LACK OF PROFESSIONALISM LACK OF INTEGRIT, LACK OF CONSPIRACY, TRANSPARENCY, AND LACK OF COOPERATION IN FULL DISCLOSURE.

AND I COME BEFORE YOU ALL TODAY TO SAY THAT YOU KNOWS I'M SORRY THAT PEOPLE FEEL THAT WAY, BUT ME AS A CITIZEN THAT HAS BEEN WORKING WITH THE ELECTIONS ADMINISTRATION OFFICE SINCE 1982

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UNDER JOYCE COWAN AND JENNIFER ANDERSON, I HAVE FOUND HAD A OFFICE TO BE NOTHING BUT PROFESSIONAL AND MAINTAIN INTEGRITY NOT ONLY WITH THE ELECTIONS ADMINISTRATOR BUT ALL THE EMPLOYEES THAT WORK THERE AS WELL. AND SO AGAIN I JUST COME BEFORE THE COURT AND I ASK THAT Y'ALL CONTINUE TO SUPPORT THE ELECTIONS ADMINISTRATION OFFICE AT WHATEVER CAPACITY THAT Y'ALL CAN. AND THAT AT THE SAME TIME I ASK THAT IN THIS TIME OF UNREST THAT Y'ALL DO MAKE SURE THAT OUR POLICE OFFICERS ARE -- OUR SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT, OUR EMERGENCY SERVICES HAVE ALL THE FUNDING THAT THEY NEED TO BE TO PROVIDE THE JOB AND SERVICE THAT THEY HAVE BEEN EMPLOYED FOR, WHICH IS PUBLIC SAFETY.

AND I THINK WITH THE LACK OF MONEY THAT WE WILL HAVE THAT LACK OF PROTECTION.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. Y'ALL HAVE A GREAT DAY. >> THANK YOU.

I JUST WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW THE TIMER WENT OFF THINKING YOU WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO HEAR IT BUT YOU WRAPPED UP PERFECTLY. THANK YOU. OUR FINAL SPEAKER IS MISSILE VIA

EBARRA. >> THANK YOU ALL FOR LETTING ME SPEAK THIS MORNING.

MY NAME IS SYLVIA AND I WAS BORN AND RAISED IN SAN MARCOS. MY HUSBAND AND I ARE BOTH YOUTH PASTORS AT A LOCAL CHURCH. I'M HERE TO SPEAK ABOUT BACK THE BLUSMTS I'D LIKE TO SPEAKING ABOUT IT BY SHARING AN EXPERIENCE WITH OUR FIRST RESPONDERS -- BLUE.

WE KNOW POLICE OFFICERS ARE THE ABSOLUTE WORST IN THE. THEY SEE THE CRIMES COMMITTED, THE DISASTERS AND ALSO TERRIBLE CAR ACCIDENTS. IN THE EARLY HOURS OF JANUARY 2ND THIS YEAR I WAS ABLE TO EXPERIENCE ONLY A FRACTION OF WHAT OUR MEN AND WOMEN DO AS POLICE OFFICERS. I NOTICED A VEHICLE IN A DITCH ON HIGHWAY 23.

AS I PULLED UP I HAD NOTICED TWO PEOPLE HAD BEEN EJECTED FROM THE VEHICLE.

TO THIS DAY I CAN'T GET THAT IMAGE OUT OF MY HEAD. YOU CAN ONLY IMAGINE HOW THANKFUL I WAS WHEN I HEARD THE SIRENS IN THE DISTANCE GETTING CLOSER.

I KNEW HELP WAS ON ITS WAY, AND EVEN AT MIDNIGHT I COULD COUNT ON OUR FIRST RESPONDERS TO SHOW UP. AS SOON AS THEY ARRIVED ON SCENE THEY WENT STRAIGHT TO WORK WITHOUT HESITATION AND WITHOUT FREAKING OUT LIKE I WAS. YOU SEE, OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS DON'T WORK A REGULAR SHIFT LIKE MOST OF US. OFTENTIMES THEIR SHIFT DOESN'T END UNTIL THE CRISIS IS OVER. THEY GET CALLED INTO WORK AT ALL HOURS AND THEY CAN'T IGNORE THE CALL BECAUSE THE COMMUNITY THE GO WITHOUT THEIR PROTECTION. EVEN WHEN THEY AREN'T ON DUTY LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS ARE ALWAYS SOME OF THE FIRST TO RESPOND TO EMERGENCIES.

WHEN THEY ARE SIMPLY GOING ABOUT THEIR DAILY LIVES. THEY SAY GOOD-BYE TO THEIR FAMILIES EACH DAY JUST LIKE EVERY ONE OF US, EXCEPT THEY DON'T KNOW FOR SURE IF THEY WILL MAKE IT HOME. SOME OF THESE MEN AND WOMEN END UP GIVING THEIR LIVES PROTECTING THEIR COMMUNITYIES FROM HARM GIVING THE ULTIMATE SACRIFICE TO THE PROFESSION OF LAW ENFORCEMENT. THESE SACRIFICES OFTEN GO IGNORED AND UNDERAPPRECIATED.

LAW ENFORCEMENT AND FIRST RESPONDERS ARE TRULY SOME OF THE MOST HONORABLE MEMBERS OF SOCIETY. THE DEDICATE TO SERVE OUR COMMUNITY, REGARDLESS OF THE COST IS ONE OF THE MOST ADMIRABLE ACTION THAT'S ONE COULD TAKE.

THEY BRAVELY SERVE THE COMMUNITY DAY AFTER DAY OFTEN WITHOUT RECEIVING ANY FORM OF A THANK YOU. I TRULY HAVE A DEEP APPRECIATION FOR THOSE WHO ARE SERVING OUR COMMUNITY AND PUTTING ON THAT BADGE EVERY DAY. WE NOW LIVE IN A WORLD IN WHICH WEARING THE BADGE CAN GET YOU KILLED, WHICH IS A VERY SAD THE. A GREAT MAJORITY OF OUR MEN AND WOMEN IN UNIFORM TRULY WANT TO SERVE THEIR COMMUNITIES AND MAKE THEM SAFER FOR US ALL.

THIS IS OFTEN SADLY FORGOTTEN. ALL THIS TALK ABOUT DEFUNDING THE POLICE IS RIDICULOUS, AND I REFUSE TO LET THIS HAPPEN IN HAYS COUNTY. I STAND WITH AND SUPPORT OUR HAYS COUNTY LAW ENFORCEMENT. OUR FIRST RESPONDERS ARE A DIFFERENT BREED.

CONSTANTLY PUTTING THE NEEDS OF OTHERS ABOVE THEMSELVES BECAUSE OF THEM LIVES HAVE BEEN SAVED.

OUR COMMUNITIES ARE SAFER, AND WE ALWAYS HAVE SOMEONE TO CALL IN TIMES OF NEED.

BECAUSE OF THIS AND INSTEAD OF DEFUNDING THE POLICE, WE NEED TO TAKE A STAND AND DEFEND OUR POLICE. IT'S TIME TO START FINDING THE FUNDS FOR OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT, SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT AND WE NEED TO BACK THE BLUE. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU MA'AM AND THAT INCLUDES OUR PUBLIC COMMENTS. WILL YOU PLEASE OPEN AGENDA ITEM

NUMBER ONE. >> JUDGE BECERRA DID I HAVE TWO COMMENTS THAT WERE SENT MANY?

>> PLEASE READ THOSE. >> THE FIRST ONE IS FROM LINDA KAUFMAN OF BUDA.

I'M WRITING ON BEHALF OF MYSELF AND MY INTEREST IN BEING PREPARED FOR THE NOVEMBER 3RD ELECTION. I WANT THE COMMISSIONERS COURT TO BE CREATIVE AND CONSIDER POLLING LOCATIONS THAT MAY NOT HAVE BEEN RELEVANT IN THE PAST. TO PRESERVE THE SANCTITY OF VOTING IN OUR DEMOCRACY, THIS ELECTION CALLS ON THE COURT TO BE WILLING TO PUT POLITICAL

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PARTY ASIDE AND DO WHAT IS JUST FOR OUR COMMUNITY. IF -- A FEW EXAMPLES.

A NOTIFICATION SYSTEM THAT WILL ALLOW PEOPLE TO WAIT IN THEIR CARS AND RECEIVE A TEXT WHEN THEIR TURN IS APPROACHING. FOR EXAMPLE, NOTIFY GROUPS OF TEN PEOPLE AT A TIME.

DRIVE-THROUGH VOTING. USE A MULTISTORY PARKING GARAGE OR LARGE PARKING LOTS.

GYMNASIUMS, ABLE TO SOCIAL DISTANF THE ELEMENTS.

HAZE HAYS HIGH SCHOOL STADIUM. HAYS PERFORMING ARTS CENTER. BUDA COVERED PARK PAVILION RESPECTFULLY SUBMITTED. THE SECOND COMMENT IS FROM ROBERT SMITH OF WIMBERLEY.

I WOULD LIKE TO PRESENT SOME SUGGESTIONS FROM CORONAVIRUS TRANSMISSION IN OUR VOTE CENTERS THIS FALL. DURING THE IN-PERSON VOTING PERIOD OVER 100,000 CITIZENS OF HAYS COUNTY MUST SPEND AMOUNT OF TIME IN THE VOTES CENTER ABOUT. 100 POLL WORKERS MOST OF WHOM ARE OVER 65 WILL SPEND DAYS IN THE VOTE CENTER. THERE IS NO REQUIREMENT FOR A VOTER IT WEAR A MASK. THE PLASTIC SHIELDS REFCTIVE AGAINST DROPLET TRANSMISSION, BUT -- EFFECTIVE AGAINST DROPLET TRANSMISSION BUT INEFFECTIVE AGAINST AEROSOL TRANSMISSION.

A GOOD VENTILATION SYSTEM IS THE FIRST LINE OF DEFENSE AGAINST AEROSOLS.

SOME VOTE SENTERS HAVE HIGH CEILING AND HIGH CAPACITY VENTILATIONIS ISS.

OTHERS ARE FAIRLY SMALL ROOMS AND OLD BUILDINGS -- CENTERS. I SUGGEST THE COUNTY MAKE THE FOLLOWING OFFERS AND REQUESTS TO THE ORGANIZATIONS THAT ARE HOSTING VOTE CENTERS.

ONE, GATHER INFORMATION AND HVAC SYSTEMS AT EACH VOTE CENTER. IDENTIFY THE MOST EFFICIENT FILTER UP TO MERV 13 THAT THE SYSTEM CAN HANDLE. OFFER TO PROVIDE SUCH A FILTER BEFORE THE FIRST DAY OF VOTING. TWO, OFFER TO ADJUST THE FRESH AIR INTAKE OF THE HVAC SYSTEMS BEFORE THE FIRST DAY OF VOTING AND RESTORE IT TO ITS ORIGINAL SETTING AFTER ELECTION DAY.

THREE, ASK THAT THE FANS BE LEFT RUNNING ALL DAY. THE COST A FEW DOZEN AIR FILTERS IS NOT HIGH. SOME LOCATIONS MAY HAVE STAFF THAT CAN PROVIDE THE LABOR.

IN OTHER CASES, THE COUNTY WOULD HAVE TO PROVIDE AN HVAC TECHNICIAN.

PERHAPS THE PUBLIC SPIRITED CONTRACTOR COULD BE CONVINCED TO DONATE THE TIME THE COSTS BECOMES AN ISSUE VOTE CENTERS COULD BE PRIORITIZED BASED ON EXISTING CONDITIONS.

FINALLY THE COUNTY COULD PROVIDE GUIDANCE ON OPENING DOORS AND WINDOWS WHEN CONDITIONS PERMIT.

THAT'S THE END OF THE COMMENTS. >> THANK YOU. FULL PLEASE OPEN AGENDA ITEM

[1. Update from the County Judge and staff regarding the Local Disaster Declaration and COVID-19. Possible discussion and action may follow.]

NUMBER 1. >> NUMBER ONE. >> UPDATE FROM COUNTY JUDGE AND STAFF REGARDING THE LOCAL DISASTER DECLARATION AND COVID-19.

POSSIBLE DISCUSSION AND ACTION MAY FOLLOW. >> AND IF YOU'LL STATE YOUR NAME

AND TITLE FOR THE RECORD. >> ALEX VILLALOBOS CHIEF OF STAFF COORDINATOR FOR HAYS COUNTY. AS WE KNOW THE PANDEMIC HAS A LOT OF DIFFERENT DEVELOPMENTS COMING THROUGH, AND YESTERDAY WE HAD A GOOD MEETING, I BELIEVE, IS GOOD INFORMATION FOR US.

IF YOU'VE KNOWN IN THE PAST AND TRACK THE TESTING PORTION OF AT THE, GOVERNOR ABBOTT PURCHASED NEARLY TWO MILLION CURATIVE TESTS FOR THE STATE OF TEXAS THAT WOULD BE DEPLOYED OUT IN DIFFERENT AREAS THAT WILL BE UTILIZED FOR TESTING. CURRENTLY THE STATE ONLY USED 600,000 OF THOSE TESTS. CURATIVE IS ALSO LIKE DEVCO FOR LOSS OF THOSE TESTING EMPLOYEES ACROSS THE STATE OF TEXAS. SO YESTERDAY THIS DISCUSSING WITH CURATIVE, THEY WILL DO THE DEPLOYING OF TESTING AND NEGOTIATE THEM THE TESTING POSSIBLITIES HERE IN HAYS COUNTY. THEY QOM APPROXIMATELY THREE MOBILE UNITS AND KIOSKS THAT CAN BE STRATEGICALLY PLACED THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY AND ALSO WORK WITHIN OUR BRICK AND MORTAR LOCATIONS. WE'RE STILL NEGOTIATING THOSE PIECES WITH US IF WE THINK IT'S A GOOD RESOURCE TO HAVE HERE AND CONTINUE OUR TESTING GOING FORWARD.

THEY WILL BE EMPLOYED AND CAN UTILIZE THROUGH DECEMBER WHICH WOULDEN IN TURN IF WE WERE ABLE TO, I GUESS, MITIGATE SOME OF THE STAFF USE THAT'S WE HAVE IN SOME OF THE OTHER AREAS WE CAN DEPLOY FUNDS FOR OUR COVID CARES ACT IN OTHER AREAS, OTHER DIRECTIONS.

ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS, TOO, THAT I WOULD LIKE IT REMIND EVERYBODY IS THE EMERGENCY PREPAREDNESS AWILL BE OCCURRING ON SEPTEMBER 28TH THROUGH OCTOBER 19ST.

I'D LIKE TO MENTION AND THANK OUR TITLE SPONSOR FOR ALL THE RESOURCES THEY ARE BRINGING FORWARD. THERE WILL BE AN AUCTION. AN AUCTION AND PROCEEDS WILL SUPPORT OUR HAYS COUNTY FIRE CHIEFS ASSOCIATION. AND BE OUR DHEEM IS LONG-TERM

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RECOVERY ORGANIZATION FOR HAYS COUNTY -- TEAM. WITH THAT IT'S IN THE REPORT

UNLESS YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. >> YOU INTRODUCED A COUPLE OF WORDS THAT AREN'T COMMON FOR THE COMMUNITY TO TESTING. CAN YOU TELL US A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THE TESTING THAT THE GOVERNOR HAS PURCHASED? BECAUSE I KNOW THAT WE'VE USED VERY OFTEN MOLECULAR WHICH IS A

NASAL SWAB OR A THROAT SWAB, AND -- >> IN OUR LAST COUPLE OF DEPLOYMENTS WITH DEVCO THEY USE A MOUTH SWAB. THEY GO THROUGH A PROCESS WHERE THEY CAN ACTUALLY TAKE THE TEST THEMSELVES AT THE DIRECTION OF A PROFESSIONAL.

WHAT IT USUALLY LOOKS LIKE IS SOMEONE COMES UP, PROVIDES THE MATERIAL AND CALLS THREE TIMES INTO -- COUGHED THREE TIMES INTO THEIR ELBOW AND SWABBED IN AND OUT THE MATERIALS ARE BROUGHT INTO A CONTAINER WHERE THEY ARE LABELED AND SENT OFF. THE RETURN TIME FOR THOSE ARE AVERAGING AROUND 24 HOURS, AS A RETURN FOR THE RESULTS OF THOSE TESTS.

THEY ARE AND THE RESEARCH TELLS US THAT 92% ACCURACY WITH THESE PARTICULAR TESTS.

AND THOSE ARE THE DETAILS. DID I MISS SOMETHING? OK.

>> COMMISSIONERS, ANY QUESTIONS? >> DO WE KNOW, ALEX, WHEN WE MAY BE GETTING THOSE TESTING AVAILABLE HERE IN HAYS COUNTY? AND YOU SAID THE GOVERNOR ORDERED TWO MILLION OF THE

TESTING? >> TWO MILLION IN THE PAST. I DON'T KNOW THE EXACT DATE WHERE DEORDER THEM AND DEPLOYED THOSE. DEVCO WAS UTILIZING SOME OF THOSE TESTS WHICH WERE PURCHASED AND CAME AND DEPLOYED HERE BUT WE HAVE THEM TO OUR AVAILABILITY AS SOON AS WE CAN ORGANIZE THE DEPLOYMENT. AND ALSO WITH THE IDEA THAT THEY COULD POSSIBLY AND WE'RE STILL WORK OUT THE DETAILS FOR THAT OUR BRICK AND MORTAR LOCATION

WILL BE IN MID-MARCH. >> THANK YOU. >> OK.

>> MY QUESTION IS ABOUT THE UNIVERSITY AND WHAT WE'RE SEEING THERE.

WHAT ARE THOSE NUMBERS LOOKING LIKE? HOW MANY FOLKS ARE TAKING ADVANTAGE OF THAT? HOW MANY SINCE THEY HAVE BEEN BACK IN THE LAST FEW WEEKS.

>> DO WE HAVE ANY UPDATES ON THAT. >> AND WE'LL TRANSFER OVER TO OUR HEALTH DEPARTMENT TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION. IF YOU'LL INTRODUCE YOUR NAME

FOR THE RECORD. >> THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU MR. VILLALOBOS.

>> SO AS OF THE DIRECTOR OF COUNTYWIDE OPERATIONS. AS OF YESTERDAY AFTERNOON, ONE OF THE EPIDEMIOLOGISTS ERIC SCHNEIDER HAD A TELEPHONE CONPRESENCE TO WITH DR. FRANCO, WITH TEXAS STATE. AND THEY HAVE HAD SINCE AUGUST 24TH, 244 POSITIVE CASES IN THEIR STUDENTS. LAST WEEK THERE 93 AND THE WEEK PRIOR THERE WERE 90.

THEY CURRENTLY HAVE 155 ACTIVE CASES. THEY HAVE 28 OF THOSE STUDENTS IN ISOLATION. MY NICIOUSING IS THEY ARE UTILIZING THEIR ISOLATION FACILITY ON CAMPUS. 46 OF THOSE ARE IN QUARANTINE. AND THEY ARE DOING THEIR OWN CONTACT TRACING, BUT WE'RE ALSO UTILIZING THEIR INFORMATION AND HAVEN'T IDENTIFIED ANY CLUSTERS.

THERE ARE SOME THAT ARE IN THE SAME RESIDENT HALLS BUT SPREAD THROUGHOUT THE BUILDING.

SO -- DATA FROM TEXAS STATE. >> THANK YOU. SO IN THE LAST THREE WEEKS WE HAVE 244 POSITIVE CASES. DO WE KNOW AT ALL IS THAT UP OR DOWN PERFECT WHERE WE LIVE IN

OUR INITIALSS THAT ARE EARLIER IN YEAR? >> I'D HAVE TO GO BACK AND LOOK AT NUMBERS. I DON'T IS THAT WITH ME TODAY. I APOLOGIZE.

>> THE REASON I'M ASKING THIS IS I'M WONDERING IF THE NUMBERS THAT WE HAVE PER WEEK NOW.

BUT I WAS WONDERING IF WE HAVE SO LAST WEEK THE NUMBERS 39 NEW CASES.

THE WEE BEFORE IF THEY ARE AVERAGING THAT OVERALL NUMBERS I MEAN, WHAT PERCENTAGE INFECTIONS

ARE POSITIVE? >> SO THERE ARE -- AND THAT'S STUDENTS NOT FACULTY.

I DON'T HAVE THAT INFORMATION. IF YOU LOOK AT DASHBOARD THEY HAVE A DIFFERENT NUMBER SO I'M NOT SURE WHAT THEY ARE REPORTING THEIR NUMBERS. THER 124 AND THIS IS YESTERDAY

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AFTERNOON. TO ANSWER THE QUESTION. >> BUT WE ARE WORKING CLOSELY WITH TEXAS STATES TO KEEP UP ON THEIR INFORMATION THEY HAVE FOR US.

MIKE DO YOU HAVE OR ALEX DO YOU KNOW THEY ARE TESTING HOW MANY STUDENTS?

THEY ARE TRYING TO WORK. >> MIKE JONES. I SPOKE TO THE DOCTOR THIS MORNING DIDN'T GET A CHANCE TO -- PARDON ME. FROG IN MY THROAT.

TESTING CONDUCTED00 TESTS AND A 6% POSITIVE RATE SIX OUT OF 100 UP.

THERE THE CHALLENGE IS GETTING STUDENTS TO COME IN. STUDENTS FEEL LIKE THEY DON'T NEED TO COME IN AND GET A TEST, BUT WITH THE SOLUTION I WAS TALKING ABOUT EARLIER I'LL HAVE ANOTHER METHOD TO DEPLOY THAT WILL BE CONVENIENT FOR THE STUDENTS AND MORE DYNAMIC FOR THE SAN MARCOS AREA AND THE COUNTY, TOO. HOPEFULLY WE'LL HAVE MORE DATA

FOR YOU GUYS BY THURSDAY TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS. >> THANK YOU, MIKE.

>> AND ALSO IN BETWEEN COURT DATES AND YOUR REPORTS THAT ARE WEEKLY THE TSXT.EDU I THINK IS THE WEBSITE WHERE YOU CAN ALWAYS SEE THE DASHBOARD AND SEE IT REGULARLY, AND TEXAS STATE.EDU IS I KNOW THAT THEY ARE DOING A GREAT JOB. I'M GRATEFUL FOR THEIR EFFORT AND DR. CARANKO AND I APPRECIATE. I HAVE NO CHOISMTS I DRIVE THROUGH THE CAMPUS EVERY DAY AND I'M LOOKING -- CHOICE THE BECAUSE IT'S MY JOB TO BE INFORMED AND AWARE. I'M JUST GRATEFUL. I CONTINUE TO BE GRATEFUL THAT EVERYWHERE I SEE, EVERYWHERE I GO PEOPLE ARE WEARING THEIR MASKS.

SOME PEOPLE THINK IT'S A HOAX OR A NUISANCE BUT MEDICAL PROFESSIONALS AND SCIENCE SAY IT HELPS. I'M JUST GRATEFUL WE'RE DOING WHATEVER WE CAN DO SO WE DON'T HAVE TO SHUT DOWN. MASK UP SO WE DON'T HAVE TO SHUT DOWN.

I'M JUST GRATEFUL THAT ENERGY IS IN MOTION. THANK YOU ALL FOR THAT REPORT.

[22. Discussion with possible action to fund a temporary position to aid elections administration with overall 2020 election.]

WILL YOU PLEASE OPEN AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 22? >> 22.

>> 22 DISCUSSION WITH POSSIBLE ACTION TO AID ELECTIONS ADMINISTRATION WITH OVERALL 2020

ELECTION. >> AND WE HAVE ONE PERSON SIGNED UP TO SPEAK MR. SAN BRANNON.

>> THANK YOU, JUDGE BECERRA FOR MOVING THIS UP A LITTLE BIT. I APPRECIATE THE INDULGENCE ON THAT, AND IN RETURN I'M GOING TO BE AS BRIEF AS POSSIBLE, BUT I ALSO WANT TO BE AS THOROUGH AS POSSIBLE WITH WHAT I'M DISCUSSING. SO THE AGENDA ITEM IS WRITTEN FOR ADDITIONAL STAFF FOR THE ELECTIONS OFFICE FOR THE UPCOMING ELECTION AND I JUST WANT TO BE VERY CLEAR THAT THE HAZE COUNTY ELECTIONS OFFICE NEEDS MORE THAN JUST A FEW BODIES TO HELP OUT. THEY NEED PROFESSIONAL, RESPONSIBLE, COMMITTED OVERSIGHT OF HOW THE NOVEMBER 2020 GENERAL ELECTION IS GOING TO TAKE PLACE. SOMEBODY WHO WILL BE ACCOUNTABLE THE FOLLOWING STATE ELECTION LAWS, REGULATIONS AND RULES. I E-MAIL YOU -- E-MAILED YOU ALL LAST NIGHT. I GOT BACK DOWN INTO A LITTLE BIT LATE SO MY E-MAIL CAME IN LATE. I HOPE YOU HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO SEE IT.

THERE WERE TWO REPORTS I GOT FROM THE ELECTIONS DIVISION THAT COULD DRAW INTO QUESTION THE ACRAS OF THE -- ACCURACY OF THE OFFICIAL CANVASS FOR THE MARCH 2020 PRIMARY.

I SPOKE WITH COMMISSIONER SHELL YESTERDAY AFTERNOON. HE'S LOOKING INTO IT AND I GREATLY APPRECIATE. THAT I KNOW YOU ALL TAKE THIS SERIOUSLY.

I DO HAVE TO SAY AT THIS POINT WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH INFORMATION TO EVEN DRAW THAT DETERMINATION.

PART OF WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS GET THROUGH THE PARTIAL MANUAL COUNT SO THAT THE ISSUES AROUND THIS SO THAT WE CAN ACTUALLY HAVE SOMETHING TO COMPARE IT TO AND MAKE A DETERMINATION ON THAT. SO I'M NOT GOING TO TALK A LOT ABOUT THAT TODAY.

I DID WANT TO GET IT ON YOUR RADAR. TODAY I WILL BE REVIEWING THE SUPPORTING DOCUMENTATION OF MY ELECTIONS COMPLAINT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ALL ON THE SAME BEIGE A COMMON UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT THE ISSUES ARE AND WHAT I WAS LOOKING FOR AND WHAT THE NATURE OF MY COMPLAINT WAS AND WHAT THE OUTSTANDING QUESTIONS THAT STILL NEED TO BE ADDRESSED ARE.

AS WELL AS WHAT I DIDN'T RECEIVE. BEFORE I DO THAT I WANT TO CLEAR UP FALSE STATEMENTS HAD A WERE MADE LAST WEEK IN MY ABSENCE BECAUSE THEY ARE HIGHLY RELEVANT TO EVERYTHING THAT WE'LL BE DISCUSSING HERE TODAY. I'M WATCHING THE CLOCK.

TRUST ME ON THIS. SO LAST WEEK HAD AND I THANK YOU TO DR. CARDENAS FOR HAVING

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RAISED THE ISSUE FOR HAVING TO PUT IT ON THE AGENDA. WHEN OUR ELECTIONS ADMINISTRATOR JENNIFER ANDERSON CAME UP THERE WERE SOME FALSE STATEMENTS THAT WERE MADE THAT I DO THINK NEED CLEARED UP BECAUSE THAT'S YOU WILL THE CONTEXT ON THIS. SHE STATED LAST WEEK THAT HERE AT THIS PODIUM THAT MY ELECTIONS COMPLAINT REGARDING THE MARCH 2020 PRIMARY ELECTION HAD BEEN DISMISSED AND HAD NO MERIT. THAT IS NOT TRUE. WHAT THE ELECTIONS DIVISION WAS SAY THERE WAS NO REASONABLE CAUSE TO SEND IT THROUGH TO THE ATTORNEY GENERAL FOR CRIMINAL INVESTIGATES I GOT THE LETTER. I BELIEVE I SAID IT AS WELL. THAT'S NOT LIKE SAYING THERE'S NO MERIT TO IT. IT'S NOT AGAINST THE LAW. NONCOMPLIANCE OF STATE RULES AND REGULATION NOT A CRIMINAL OFFENSE HAD THE STATE OF TEXAS IT.

MIGHT HAVE BEEN A LEGISLATIVE OVERSIGHT, BUT IT WAS NOT DISMISSED.

I HAVE NOT GOTTEN -- WE'RE GOING TO GO A LITTLE BIT LONGER. THANK YOU.

I HAVE NOT GOTTEN ANY RESPONSE BACK TO THE MERITS OF MY ARGUMENT ON THAT ELECTIONS ADMINISTRATOR JENNIFER ANDERSON SAID SHE DOES FOLLOW RULES AND REGULATION BUT AT THIS POINT DOS IN THE PROVIDE DOCUMENTATION OF DOING SO. YOU CAN REALLY TURN IT OFF.

I'M GOING TO BE HERE A FEW NO. THAT'S NOT THE WAY WE RUN THE COURT.

WHAT I'D LIKE TO YOU DO IS WRAP-UP YOUR THOUGHTS, MOTION AGENDA ITEM SECOND AND IF WE WANT MORE QUESTIONS WE PULL YOU UP AND WE HAVE TO STAY AT LEAST TO WITHIN TO BE CONSISTENT AS THE CHAIR OF THIS BODY WITHIN THE THREE MINUTE WINDOW I'LL LET PEOPLE FLOW OVER TO WRAP-UP THOUGHTS BUT IT'S NOT A KEEP GOING PIECE. SO IF YOU HAVE SOMETHING PRESSING PLEASE GO SFOFL THAT SO THAT WE CAN CONTINUE THE SPIRIT OF THE THREE MINUTE TIMER.

>> WELL AS I INDICATED TO Y'ALL HAD ABOUT TEN MINUTES OF INFORMATION TO COVER.

I'LL SIT DOWN AND LET IT GO ON IF YOU BRING ME BACK UP TO LET ME CONTINUE THE TEN MINUTES.

>> ONE OF THE COURT MEMBERS ASK THAT YOU COME UP WE CAN ABSOLUTELY DO THAT, YES, SIR.

>> DO I HAVE A COMMITMENT FROM ONE OF YOU BECAUSE -- >> IT'S NOT THE WAY IT WORKS SO IF YOU'D LIKE IT WHILE YOU HAVE THE LAST MOMENT TO WRAP UP THOUGHTS SPECIFICALLY SPEAK TO SOMETHING YOU'LL BE GUARANTEED TO SPEAK OF AND THEN WE'LL CONTINUE ON.

>> WELL ABOUT A MONTH AGO, JUDGE I REQUESTED A 20 MINUTE PRESENTATION BECAUSE THIS IS NOT A SMALL ITEM. AND AFTER AND I'VE GOTTEN THROUGH ONE OF THE UNTRUTHS OUT OF SEVEN THAT I WAS GOING TO POINT OUT BEFORE I COULD EVEN GET INTO THIS.

SO I'M NOT GOING TO GIVE UP THE PODIUM TODAY, AND I HAVE REQUESTED THE TIME RESPECTFULLY A MONTH AGO. I'VE ASKED FOR IT, AND THIS IS -- I CAN'T WALK AWAY FROM THIS.

SO IF YOU PUT THIS MAN OVER HERE IN A POSITION TO REMOVE ME, I'LL HAVE TO SAY, YOU KNOW -- PUT

UNDER ARREST. SO I'M HERE -- >> THAT'S NOT MY INTENT.

THAT'S IN THE MY INTENT. >> I'M AWARE IT'S NOT. >> AS ONE OF THE COURT MEMBERS HERE I CAN EASILY CALL UP SO I WOULDN'T CONSIDER THIS IN YOUR THOUGHT PROCESS A MUST-BE AT THIS VERY SECOND SAID CONVERSATION. I HAVE PAGE DISCUSS, SO THERE'S SPACE TO BE DISCUSSED, AND I WOULD REALLY DISLIKE FOR YOU TO BE THE FIRST PERSON THAT PUTS US

IN A PLACE THAT'S -- >> I'M NOT PUTTING NEW THE PLACE.

>> -- BY TRYING TO SAY YOU'RE NOT GOING TO FOLLOW THE PROTOCOLS OF THE COURT, YOU ARE

AS THE CHAIR PUTTING ME IN A PLACE AND I'D RATHER YOU NOT. >> IT SOMEBODY WILL COMMIT TO ME I'M GO -- OUTSIDE OF THAT THESE THINGS WILL BE DISCUSSED PUBLICLY AND I'VE ASKED FOR THAT ON MULTIPLE OCCASIONS AND IT HASN'T HAPPENED. SO WHEN THAT HAPPENS, I'M GOOD.

I WANT IT TO HAPPEN NOW. TELL ME I'LL COME BACK UP AND BE ABLE TO COMPLETE THIS.

>> WE HAVE A PROCESS. ALLOW ME TO MOVE THROUGH THE PROCESS.

>> I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR A MONTH FOR YOU TO MOVE THROUGH THE PROCESS.

WE HAVE AN ELECTION COMING UP. WE'RE, WHAT, 49 DAYS AWAY FROM IT THESE ISSUES HAVE NOT BEEN

ADDRESSED YET. THEY NEED TO BE ADDRESSED. >> THANK YOU, SIR.

SO DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION. CAN I GET A MOTION SO THAT WE CAN OPEN THIS UP SO THAT WE CAN HAVE A COURT CONVERSATION? I MOVE FICK GET A SECOND.

>> THANK YOU. SO I HAVE SOME NOTES. AGAIN, GIVE ME A MINUTE.

I HAVE SOME NOTES THAT I WANT TO TALK ABOUT AND THEN, OF COURSE, WE'LL HAVE SOMEONE VERY ACTIVE AND INTERESTED IN CONTINUING THE CONVERSATION, BUT WE'RE GOING TO FOLLOW OUR PROTOCOLS.

AND I WOULD LIKE TO BRING SOMEONE THINGS THAT I HAVE NOTES ABOUT BECAUSE THIS WAS MY AGENDA

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ITEM, AND I BROUGHT IT UP BECAUSE IT WASN'T AN ORIGINAL IDEA BUT AS SOMEONE MENTIONED IT IN CITIZEN COMMENTS THAT PEOPLE FEEL THIS WAY. THEY ARE SORRY PEOPLE FEEL THIS WAY. I AGREE, AND I AM NOT INTERESTED 234 DOING ANYTHING BUT HAVING ANOTHER PHRASE THAT WAS SPOKEN WAS ELECTION INTEGRITY. SO MY BIGGEST HOPE IN THIS EFFORT OF THIS AGENDA ITEM IS TO SUPPORT THE IDEA THAT WE COULD SUPPORT FOUR TO FIVE ELECTION INTEGRITY SINCE PEOPLE FEEL THIS WAY AND I PERSONALLY SITTING AS THE ELECTIONS COMMISSION CHAIR SERVING ON THE ELECTIONS BOARD AND THE CHAIR OF THIS BODY, I STILL DON'T KNOW THE RESULTS OF THE SECRETARY OF STATE'S AUDIT. AND SO THAT LEAVES QUESTIONS FOR ME STILL.

AND I REALLY DO THINK COMMISSIONER SHELL -- THANK COMMISSIONER SHELL FOR HELPING ME TO ARTICULATE DETAILS OF OPPORTUNITIES LAST WEEK AND I REALLY DO APPRECIATE THAT.

MANY FOLKS ARE ASKING TO OUR ELECTIONS PROCESS. I'VE BEEN REACHED OUT TO, AND THEY ARE BEING TOLD NOTHING. IT'S CRICKETS. THER THEY ARE REACHING OUT BECAUSE THEY HEAR THAT WE HAVE A -- THEY ARE REACHING OUT BECAUSE THEY HEAR THAT WE HAVE A NEED.

MAYBE A REGIONAL NEED A NATIONAL NEED BUT I'VE BEEN TOLD TOLD THAT I'M GOING TO HIT A FEW MORE

NOTES. >> JUDGE, NOT GETTING A CALL BACK.

>> THEY ARE NOT GETTING A CALL BACK. >> I WANT TO GO THROUGH THESE IN A TIMELY MANNER. SO I WAS REACHED OUT ON IT INDIVIDUAL NOT JUST ONE, SO THERE'S MORE THAN, SAYING THIS THEY REACHED OUT TO THE ELECTIONS ADMINISTRATION OFFICE, OFFERING TO HELP AND THAT NO ONE IS TAKING THEM UP ON IT. AND WE HEAR OF THE NEED.

WE HEAR OF THE SHORTAGE. WE HEAR OF PRIVATE INDUSTRY PAYING EMPLOYEES TO HELP IN THEIR FOOTPRINT, AND SOS FIND IT A LITTLE DISAPPOINTING THAT WE'RE NOT ABLE TO CALL THEM B BACK. AND SO WE ALREADY KNOW THAT TEXAS CIVIL RIGHTS PROJECT THREATENED TO SUE US LAST TIME FOR OUR OVERALL ELECTIONS PROCESS.

WE KNOW IN 2016 WE LOST 616 VOTES. AND IT'S NOT TIED SFOFL THIS ADMINISTRATOR. AND HAYS COUNTY ELECTION PROCESS AND THAT'S WHAT I HELP REPRESENT. YES, THERE WERE GOOD RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THE SECOND LETTER THAT WAS WRITTEN FOR SURE. I'D LIKE IT ASK SINCE YOU'RE STILL THERE PERFECTLY COORDINATED, I'D LIKE IT ASK MR. BRANDON IF THERE ARE SOME PIECES THAT I'M NOT BROUGHT UP THAT YOU HAD CONCERNS WITH, THAT YOU CAN EXPAND ON.

>> I WOULD JUST ASK FOR ONE THING. YOU POSTED THIS, AND I FULLY SUPPORT EVERY PERSON'S RIGHT TO POST ON THE AGENDA. I COMPLETELY AGREE.

I DON'T HAVE ANY ISSUE WITH THE CONVERSATION, BUT SINCE THERE'S NO BACKGROUND FOR IT OR HON IT ITSELF, IT'S JUST THE TITLE. CAN WE -- CAN YOU CLARIFY JUST A LITTLE BIT BEFORE WE SPEAK? JUST CLARIFY SPECIFICALLY WHAT WE'RE TRYING DO SO WE DON'T RUN AFOUL OF SOMETHING RELATIVE TO

THE POSTING. THAT'S ALL I'M ASKING FOR. >> YEAH, SURE, NO PROBLEM.

THE REASON I CREATED THIS AGENDA ITEM AND I WORDED IT IN A WAY THAT DIDN'T LOOK COMBATIVE OR CONFRONTATIONAL BECAUSE THAT'S NOT MY STYLE. BUT I DO SUPPORT THE IDEA, AND IT WASN'T BE ORIGINAL IDEA. IT WASN'T MINE, BUT I DO SUPPORT THE IDEA OF PROVIDING ADDITIONAL SUPPORT IN THE TERMS OF, YOU KNOW, LEAVING THE WORD OUT TO BE POLITE, BUT OVERSIGHT HELP MAKE SURE WITH SUCH AN IMPORTANT ELECTION, WITH SO MANY MOVING PARTS AND I -- I DO.

I HEAR ALL THE DIFFERENT THINGS AND OPPORTUNITIES MISSED AND SHORT COMINGS THAT WE HAVE HAD AND I KNOW THAT EVERYONE IS TRYING THEIR BEST. SO THAT'S WHY I EVEN OSHD THE AGENDA IN A WAY THAT IS NOT -- ORDERED THE AGENDA IN A WAY THAT'S NOT CONFRONTATIONAL, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE SOMEONE BRING NEWS TO HELP OUR ADMINISTRATION TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE AN ELECTION EVER SO IMPORTANT TO GO OFF WITH AS LITTLE RESISTANCE FOR THE COMMUNITY AND AS MUCH BUY-IN FROM THE COMMUNITY AS POSSIBLE. THAT IS OUR REASON FOR THE AGENDA. BASED ON THE E-MAILS YOU'VE RECEIVED.

BASED ON THE PREVIOUS CONVERSATIONS WE RECEIVED, BASED ON THE HIGHLIGHTS THAT I MENTIONED JUST IT NAME A FEW. THE COMMUNITY IS NOT AS A WHOLE, THE BROADER THE STATEMENT THE NARROWER THE MIND. SO ARE ENOUGH MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY THAT HAVE SHARED

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CONCERNS WITH ME ABOUT THIS VERY IMPORTANT ELECTION, AND I WANT TO DO MY PART ON MY WATCH AS THE COUNTY JUDGE AND THE CHAIR OF THE ELECTIONS COMMISSION AND SERVING ON THE ELECTIONS BOARD.

ELECTION WRITTEN ALL OVER MY POSITION, AND I WANT TO DO MY PART TO MAKE SURE I'VE DONE EVERYTHING I COULD. I WANT TO LEAVE IT ALL ON THE FIELD WHEN NOVEMBER 4TH COMES

AROUND. AND THAT'S WHAT THIS IS ABOUT. >> EVERYTHING THAT I'M DESCRIBING, AS I STAND HERE TODAY, WILL BE ABOUT THE JUSTIFICATION FOR HAVING IT BRING SOMEBODY IN TO OVERSEE THE ELECTIONS OFFICE AND HOW THEY ADMINISTER THIS OFFICE.

SO IT'S RECOMMENDED ONE AGENDAITE PEOPLE. >> SO FULL JUST FOR MAKING SURE I COVER THE REASONS WHY THIS AN AGENDA ITEM THAT I CREATED AND HOPE THE COMMISSIONERS WILL SUPPORT. IF YOU COULD SUPPORT MY EFFORT WITH YOUR COMMENTS SUCCINCTLY I

WOULD BE GRATEFUL. >> LISTEN, I'VE GOT OVER 100 HOURS SINCE JULY 15TH INTO THIS PROCESS AND MAKING IT SUCCINCT. I WASN'T HERE LAST WEEK, BUT I DID WATCH THE CONVERSATION ONLINE. I'M AWARE OF HOW MUCH CONFUSION THERE IS.

I'M TRYING TO BRING SHE CLARITY SO YOU CAN MAKE THAT DECISION PROPERLY.

SO I AM GOING TO ASK FOR THE INDULGENCE. I'LL GET THROUGH THIS.

THERE'S NOTHING HERE WASTING. THANK YOU. SO LAST WEEK WE'RE TALKING ABOUT OWE CASE, SO I'M GOING TO BACK UP REAL QUICK BEFORE I GO THROUGH THIS -- OK.

WE ALL RECALL THAT ON NOVEMBER 2016 WE HAD AN ELECTION HERE IN HAYS COUNTY THE ANTHEM ELECTION THAT WAS OVERTURNED. WE HAD A JUDGE'S RULING THAT SAID THE VOTES CAST WERE NOT RETHED IN THE VOTES REPORTED. THAT WAS A FINDING OF FACT, PERIOD.

FROM THAT WE HAD CITIZENS DOWN HERE FOR SIX WEEKS IN A ROW TRYING GET THIS COMMISSION TO ANSWER SOME QUESTIONS TO TAKE SOME ACTION AND NEVER MADE IT TO THE AGENDA UNTIL TODAY SIX WEEKS LATER THAT OUR ELECTIONS ADMINISTRATOR JENNIFER ANDERSON SAID OH, IT'S OK.

WE FOUND THOSE TWO VOTES. THEY WERE ON A MISSING BALLOT BOX IN WHICH 816 VOTES WERE NOT COUNTED. SHE SAID IT'S OK. WE'RE PUTTING IN NEW PROCESSES AND PROCEDURES TO TAKE CARE OF ALL OF THAT. WE NEVER GOT TO SEE THOSE.

FOR THREE YEARS AND NINE MONTHS I'VE BEEN DOING OPEN RECORDS REQUEST, TRYING TO LOOK AT THE PRO SAYS AND PROCEDURES. THEY DO NOT EXIST THE NOT IN ANY MATERIAL FORM, OK? SO THAT'S WHAT THIS IS ABOUT. WE HAVE THIS BODY THE OLD ADMINISTRATOR, THE NEW ADMINISTRATION HAS TAKEN ZERO STEPS FORWARD TO BE OUT. THAT'S WHY I'M HERE SO WE ALL UNDERSTAND. SO WITH THAT AS A SET-UP, I'LL GO AND CONTINUE THROUGH.

>> I GET TO INTERRUPT YOU BECAUSE THIS IS NOT PUBLIC COMMENTS.

WHEN YOU SAY THE NEW ADMINISTRATION, I REPRESENT THAT STATEMENT AND YOU ARE HERE BECAUSE OF THE NEW ADMINISTRATION. I'D LIKE TO REMIND YOU OF THAT

FACT. >> WELL I DO APPRECIATE THAT. BUT I ALSO FEEL LIKE I'VE BEEN NEGOTIATED DOWN FROM WHAT REALLY HAS TO HAPPEN. I KNOW.

LISTEN, I DON'T WANT TO MAKE THIS PERSONAL. I WANT TO BE CIVIL AND SHARE.

SO FROM LAST WEEK A SECOND MISLEADING STATEMENT IN DESCRIBING THE PARTIAL MANUAL COUNT THAT I SUBMITTED AS PART OF THE MARCH 2020 PRIMARY ELECTIONS COMPLAINT, MISS ANDERSON STATED THEIR REPORT WASSING EARLY VOTING. THAT WAS NOT THE ELECTIONS TO THIS REPORT. THAT WAS HER REPORT THAT SHE SUBMITTED TO THE ELECTIONS DIVISION. IT WAS MISSING EARLY VOTING BY MAIL.

IT WAS MISSING EARLY VOTING AT THE POLLING PLACES. THOSE ARE REQUIREMENTS, AND IT'S IN THE BACKUP, THE ELECTIONS ADVISORY 2018-30. I'LL GO THROUGH THAT.

THAT IS REQUIREMENT. IT WAS MISSING. SHE TRIED TO MAKE IT SOUND LIKE IT WAS THE ELECTIONS DIVISION. IT WASN'T. IT WAS HER REPORT.

NUMBER THREE, ANOTHER FALSE STATEMENT. MISS ANDERSON STATED THAT THE ELECTIONS DIVISION CONTACTED ME ON SEVERAL OCCASIONS AND THAT I DID NOT CALL THEM BACK.

THAT IS WHOLLY UNTRUE AND, IN FACT, IT'S JUST THE OPPOSITE. I MADE MANY CALLS THAT WERE UNRETURNED. I MADE MANY OPEN RECORDS REQUESTS THAT WERE NEVER FULFILLED. LAST WEEK I FORWARD THE E-MAIL STRING TO ALL OF WITH YOU MY CONATION IS WITH THE DIRECTOR OF THE ELECTIONS DIVISION KEITH INGRAHAM.

AND I WAS IN THE GETTING SATISFACTION. HE WAS NOT RESPONDING.

HE WAS BERATING ME FOR DOING THE THING I AM DOING. SO I AM THE ONE THAT ESCALATED IT TO THE SECRETARY OF STATE'S EXECUTIVE OFFICE. I COPIED RUTH HUGHES, THE

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SECRETARY OF STATE, THE ASSISTANT SECRETARY OF STATE, GENERAL COUNCIL AND A COUPLE OF OTHER PEOPLE. THE GENERAL COUNCIL WAS ACTUALLY THE ONE THAT PICKED UP THE BALL.

HE STARTED FULFILLING MY INFORMATION REQUEST FORUM. WE INDUSTRIAL SOME OF THE INFORMAL ONES DONE. HE'S WORKING NEW INFORMATION REQUESTS FOR ME.

SO IT WASN'T THAT I WAS UNRESPONSIVE AS SHE DEMONSTRATED IT'S THAT THEY WERE UNRESPONSIVE TO ME. IT'S NOT THAT THEY GOT MAD AT ME AND SENT IT UP TO THE SECRETARY OF STATE'S OFFICE IT'S THAT I AM THE ONE THAT INISH YATEDED THAT ESCALATION.

YOU ALL -- INITIATED THAT ESCALATION. YOU ALL NEED TO UNDERSTAND.

THAT SHE STOOD AT THIS PODIUM AND GAVE FALSE STATEMENTS, OUR ELECTIONS ADMINISTRATOR, THE ONE RESPONSIBLE FOR COUNTING OF VOTES. MISS ANDERSON, ANOTHER FALSE STATEMENT. MISS ANDERSON STATED THAT SHE GAVE ME COMPLETE PARTIAL MANUAL COUNT INFORMATION. THIS IS NOT TRUE. MY ELECTIONS COMPLAINT IS OVER THE MARCH 2020 PRIMARY. THAT'S ALL I'VE DISCUSSED SO FAR.

THERE ARE OTHER ELECTIONS COMPLAINTS TO COME ON OTHER ELECTIONS, BUT SO FAR, THAT'S ALL WE DISCUSSED. SHE SAID THAT SHE SENT ME THE COMPLETE PARTIAL MANUAL ACCOUNT INFORMATION. THE ONLY PARTIAL MANUAL COUNT SHE SENT ME WAS FOR THE JULY 2020 RUNOFF AND I HAVE ISSUES WITH WHAT SHE SAID -- SENT AND THAT WILL BE ANOTHER ELECTIONS COMPLAINT. ANOTHER OH, ONE TRUTH SHE DID TELL WAS SHE CALLED ME AND I NEVER RETURNED HER CALL. SHE CALLED ME AS A RESULT OF ME BEING IN THE PARKING LOT DURING THE RUNOFF AND I SAW JEFF WALK IN. I SAID ARE YOU GUYS DOING THE PARTIAL MANUAL COUNTS. HE GOES YEAH, I THINK SO. WHAT DO YOU MEAN YOU THINK SO? WELL I'M PRETTY SURE. WHY DON'T YOU CHECK ON THAT AND GET BACK IT ME.

A COUPLE OF DAYS LATER JENNIFER ANDERSON CALLED ME AND I WASN'T ABLE TO ANSWER THE PHONE BUT I DIDN'T CALL HER BACK. THERE'S A REASON FOR THAT. SHE'S NEVER GIVEN ME A STRAIGHT ANSWER TO ANY DIRECT QUESTION I'VE EVER ASKED. AND I HAD ALREADY BEGUN SUBMITTING MY RECORDS REQUEST TO THE COUNTY AND TO THE SECRETARY OF STATE.

SO WHEN SHE COMES UP HERE OVER AND OVER AND TELLS YOU THESE THINGS THAT ARE FALSE STATEMENTS YOU OWE IT TO ME AND TO EVERY VOTER IN THIS COUNTY ALL 150,000 OF US TO GET TO THE BOTTOM OF IT AND UNDERSTAND. THAT'S WHY I'M HERE. AND IN ADDITION, DURING THE CONVERSATION COMMISSIONER SHELL YOU WERE ASKING SOME MARVELLOUS QUESTIONS THE COMMISSIONER SMITH I APPRECIATE YOURS. THERE'S A LOT OF CONFUSION ABOUT WHAT SHE DID, WHAT SHE WAS SUPPOSED TO DO SHOULD THE BALLOT BOX BEEN IDENTIFIED AND IT WAS ALL UNNECESSARY.

IF SHE HAD PROCESSES AND PROCEDURES IN PLACE SHE COULD GIVE A MANUAL, SHE WOULD HAVE SIGN-IN SHEETS OF THE PEOPLE DOING THE MANUAL COUNT, ALL THESE THINGS.

AND SHE CAN'T. ALL SHE CAN DO IS SAY OH, YEAH IT WAS DONE.

THAT WAS THE NATURE OF MY RECORDS REQUEST TO THE COUNTY IS THAT LOOKING FOR THE DOCUMENTATION THAT THESE THINGS HAVE BEEN DONE. SO I'M GOING TO MAKE AN ATTEMPT

TO CLARIFY SOME OF THAT RIGHT NOW. >> SAM, CAN YOU JUST EXPLAIN? YOU SAID SIGN-IN SHEETS, WHAT SIGN-IN SHEETS ARE YOU SPEAKING OF?

>> WELL YEAH, LAST WEEK I THINK IT WAS LON THAT ASKED ARE YOU REQUIRED TO HAVE SIGN-IN SHEET? NO, THAT WAS THE ORDER. SIGN-IN SHEETS FOR WHO IS ACTUALLY DOING THE MANUAL COUNT.

I'LL GIVE YOU AN EXAM. WHEN TCOL WAS DOING ITS INVESTIGATION ON GREYHOUND AND THE TRAINING HE PUT FORWARD ALL THOSE RECORDINGS ARE ONLINE. YOU CAN FIND THEM ONLINE.

I WENT THROUGH AND LISTENED TO EMTHIS. AS THE INVESTIGATOR WAS ASKING ABOUT THEM HE SAID I SEE YOUR ROSTER HERE IT'S ALL TYPED UP AND PRINTED UP.

HE SAID ORDINARILY, YOU WOULD HAVE A SIGN-IN SHEET WHERE THE PEOPLE COULD IN AND SIGN THEIR NAME. THAT'S BEEN PERSONALLY VOUCHING THAT THEY WENT THROUGH THIS TRAINING. WHY DON'T YOU HAVE THAT. OK? SO THAT'S A VERY BASIC INTERNAL CONTROL THAT I COME FROM THE CORPORATE WORLD AND I SAW BUSINESS PROCESS IMPROVEMENT. AND, YOU KNOW, SUPPLY CHAIN CONSULTING AND IT'S BALL PROCESS. IT'S PROCEDURE. IT'S BALL INTERNAL CONTROLS TO TAKE ALL THE QUESTIONS. IT'S ALL ABOUT. IT'S ALL ABOUT CREATING PREDICTABLE OUTCOMES IF THERE'S EVER A QUESTION, WHAT HAPPENED I HAVE THIS DOCUMENT RIGHT HERE.

SO THEIR SIGN-IN SHEETS AREN'T JUST LIKE A LUX RICH IT'S A VERY BAKEIC CONTROL BECAUSE RATHER THAN TAKE ONE CONSTABLE'S WORD FOR IT AND BY THE WAY THEY PULLED 768 HOURS OF TRAINING HAD BEEN CREDITED. THEY PULLED 768 HOURS OF TRAINING BACK FROM ALL THOSE DEPUTIES BECAUSE THEY COULDN'T CONFIRNL THAT IT EVER HAPPENED. IN FACT, THEY KNOW IT DIDN'T

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HAPPEN -- CONFIRM. ONE OF THE WAYS THEY FOUND OUT, SHOW ME YOUR SIGN-IN SHEETS.

WE DIDN'T HAVE SIGN-IN SHEETS. OK. IT SOUNDS LIKE MAYBE IT'S A LUXURY OR NICE TO HAVE. THIS IS VERY -- THIS IS NOT CUTTING EDGE.

THIS IS VERY BASIC CONTROL STUFF. GREAT QUESTION, THANK YOU.

SO, YOU KNOW, I MENTIONED WHAT MY BACKGROUND IS AND I'M NOT THE IN THIS STUFF.

I WAS AROUND IT FOR 17 YEARS. I KNOW HOW THIS STUFF OPERATES AND I THINK THAT'S ONE OF THE PROBLEMS THAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW. WE HAVE SOMEBODY THAT'S RUNNING OUR ELECTIONS THAT'S NEVER DONE A JOB LIKE THIS, THAT'S NEVER RUN A DEPARTMENT, THAT'S NEVER BEEN IN A POSITION TO UNDERSTAND WHY DOCUMENTATION OF PROCESSES PROCEDURES AND CONTROLS ARE IMPORTANT.

IT'S OH, YEAH I DID IT. WELL SHOW ME. WELL I DID IT.

AND THAT'S NOT ACCEPTABLE WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT RECOURSE AT THE BALLOT BOX.

THE PASTOR TODAY IN HIS PRAYER SAID SOMETHING ABOUT LIVING IN A PEACEFUL SOCIETY AND MAINTAINING PEACEFUL SOCIETY. IF WE DON'T HAVE RECOURSE AT THE BALLOT BOX THERE IS NO PEACEFUL SOCIETY. THAT'S WHY I'M AT THIS PODIUM TODAY, RIGHT? WE NEED THE PEOPLE TO UNDE UNDERSTAND. WE NEED OUR ELECTIONS ADMINISTRATOR TO BE ABLE TO DOCUMENT WHAT SHE'S DOING AND PROVE IT TO AND SHE JUST DOESN'T HAVE THAT UNDERSTANDING. 3 1/2 YEARS. THREE YEARS AND NINE MONTHS WE HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS, AND WE'VE NOT MADE ANY PROGRESS OTHER THAN NOW.

THANK YOU, TALKING ABOUT IT. SO THE FIRST THING YOU SEE IN THE DOCUMENTATION THAT I SENT THROUGH LAST NIGHT, IT'S RIGHT BEHIND. THERE WERE TWO DOCUMENTS.

ONE WAS THE ACTUAL COMPLAINT AND THE OTHER WAS THE DOCUMENTATION I PROVIDED TO SUPPORT THAT COMPLAINT. ELECTIONS ADVISORY NUMBER 2018-30.

LOOKS LIKE THIS. IF YOU'VE GOT IT, IF YOU WERE TABLE PRINT IT.

UNDER NEW ROIRNTS. IT SAYS GOING FORWARD THE FOLLOWING BALLOTS WILL BE INCLUDED IN A PARTIAL MANUAL COUNT EARLY VOTING IN-PERSON BALLOTS, EARLY MAIL BALLOTS ELECTION DAY BALLOTS. WHEN WE LOOK AT THE DOCUMENT, I KNOW YOU'VE ALL SEEN IT BUT I JUST WANT TO GO THROUGH THIS QUICK LITTLE EXERCISE. WHEN WE LOOK AT THE DOCUMENT THAT WAS ACTUALLY ONLY LISTED ELECTION DAY BALLOTS. IF THIS IS TRUE.

IF MISS ANDERSON SUBMITTED A TRUE REPORT TO THE ELECTIONS DIVISION, WE'RE NOT DOING IT AS REQUIRED BY LAW, BY REGULATION, BY RULE. IF THERE'S SOMETHING OTHER THAN THIS THAT SHE SENT THAT THE ELECTIONS DIVISION SOMEHOW DIDN'T SEND ME AND RIGHT NOW THE GENERAL COUNCIL IS TRYING TO FIGURE OUT IF THERE IS SOMETHING ELSE OR NOT.

IF THERE IS SOMETHING ELSE OR NOT SHE'S GOT TO DEMONSTRATE US. THIS DOES NOT MEET WHAT'S IN THE ELECTIONS BOX. THAT'S CLEAR. THE NEXT THING I WOULD DIRECT YOUR ATTENTION TO AND THIS IS REALLY THE BASIS OF WHAT INFORMATION REQUEST TO THE COUNTY WAS IF YOU GO TO PAGE THREE OF THAT SAME DOCUMENT IF YOU LOOK UNDER PROCEDURES FOR CONDUCTING THE PARTIAL MANUAL COUNT THE VERY FIRST THING ACOMES UP SAYS THE GENERAL CUSTODIANS IDENTIFIED BY WRITTEN ORDER WHICH TEMPORARY OR PERMANENT EMPLOYEES WILL PARTICIPATE IN PARTIAL MANUAL COUCHBLET I REMEMBER LON'S QUESTION LAST WEEK -- COUNT.

IS THAT REQUIRED? ARE YOU REQUIRED TO CREATE ANY KIND OF ORDER? HER ANSWER WAS NO. IT'S NUMBER ONE UNDER THE GENERAL REQUIREMENTS.

SO I DON'T KNOW IF SHE DOESN'T KNOW THAT. I DON'T KNOW IF SHE TOLD YOU AN INTENTIONALLY FALSE STATEMENT. BUT YOU'VE GOT TO GET THAT QUESTION ANSWERED, RIGHT? SHE'S COUNTING OUR VOTES! OTHER THINGS THAT ARE ON THERE AND I'M NOT GOING TO GO THROUGH THEM ALL. THIS DOCUMENT IS WHAT I PULLED MY INFORMATION REQUEST FROM.

SO LET ME GO AHEAD AND GET TO THAT. THAT INCLUDES THE SECOND DOCUMENT SENT YOU LAST NIGHT AS WELL. I KNOW YOU'VE SEEN IT BEFORE.

I'VE SEEN IT BEFORE. SO I ASKED TEN QUESTIONS AND MY INFORMATION REQUESTED THE COUNTY. BY THE WAY I DID THIS FOR THREE ELECTIONS.

I DID IT FOR NOVEMBER GENERAL ELECTION 2019, MARCH 2020 PRIMARY AND THE RUNOFF.

I'M JUST FOCUSING ON THIS ONE NOW BECAUSE IT SEEMS OUT OF THESE THREE ELECTIONS THIS IS THE MOST IMPORTANT, THE FEEDBACK ON THEM ALL CAME ELEMENT EXACT SAME WAY, SO THERE ARE MORE THINGS TO TALK ABOUT LATER. A COPY OF THE REQUIRED POSTING OF NOTICE INDICATING THE DATE, HOUR, PLACE OF THE PARTIAL MANUAL RECOUNT. YOU'LL.

>> THE BACK-UP WHAT THEY DID SEND ME. THEY ACTUALLY DID SEND A NOTICE BUT WHAT'S INTERESTING ABOUT THIS NOTICE AND IT WAS THE FIRST ALL THROUGH THIS INFORMATION Q-THEY DIDN'T SEND A DOCUMENT. -- REQUEST. THEY DIDN'T SEND A DOCUMENT.

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THEY SENT A JPEG IM. AN INTERNAL AUDITOR WOULD LOOK AT THAT AND SAY WHY WOULD THEY SEND A JPEG IMAGE? IT WAS OBVIOUSLY WRITTEN IN BRORD SESING PROGRAM OF THE WHY WASN'T IT SENT IN THE DOCUMENT. I DON'T KNOW. YOU'LL HAVE TO ASK HER.

WHAT I DO KNOW IS WHEN YOU SEND A DOCUMENT THE CREATE DATE IS INCLUDED IN THAT DOCUMENT -- PROCESSING. IF YOU LOOK AT THAT THE CREATE DATE IS IN THERE.

ALL OF THESE FOR EACH INFORMATION REQUEST, THEY ALL LOOK THE SAME.

THE DATE IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT. WHY THEY WERE SENT AS IMAGES I DON'T KNOW, BUT WE DON'T KNOW THE CREATE DATE THEY SENT US THIS.

MY QUESTION WAS, WAS IT CREATED AT THE TIME IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN AND POSTED AT THE TIME IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN. THIS IS NOT PROOF THAT IT WAS. IT'S NOT PROOF THAT IT WASN'T, BUT IT LEAVES THE QUESTION OPEN. DOCUMENTATION OF THE PARTIAL MANUAL COUNT FOR EARLY VOTING BY MAIL BALLOTS. WHAT SHE DID WAS SHE SENT US THE DIRECTIVE FROM THE ELECTIONS DID IS TELLING HER TO DO THAT. THAT IS NOT DOCUMENTATION THAT SHE DID THAT.

IF SHE WAS GOING TO HAVE DOCUMENTATION OF A PROCEDURE FOR PARTIAL MANUAL RECOUNT IT WOULD BE IN THE POLICY OF PROCEDURE. HERE'S HOW WE GO ABOUT IT. SHE EVEN SPOKE A LITTLE BIT ABOUT TO IT. WE HAVE THREE PEOPLE, ONE COUNCIL WHILE THE OTHER TWO WATCH AND THE WHILE THE OTHER TWO. WHY IS THAT NOT DOCUMENTED? ALL SHE DID WAS SHE SENT US THE REQUIREMENT FROM THE ELECTIONS DIVISION.

DOCUMENTATION OF A PROCEDURE FOR PARTIAL MANUAL RECOUNT. BASICALLY THE SAME THING BUT FOR EARLY VOTING ELECTION DAY IN THE POLLING PLACES. AGAIN, SHE SENT THE DIRECTIVE FROM THE ELECTIONS DIVISION. SHE DIDN'T SEND ANYTHING TO INDICATE THAT SHE'S DOING IT.

THOSE WERE THE THREE THAT WE GOT RESPONSES TO. THE OTHER SEVEN WE DIDN'T GET RESPONSES TO. DOCUMENTATION OF THE BALLOT BOXES CONTAINING THE VOTER BALLOTS SUBJECT TO RECOUNT. THIS IS TOPIC OF DISCUSSION LAST WEEK AND NOBODY SEEMED TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THAT IS. LET'S GO THROUGH THE SCENARIO REAL QUICK.

AT DUNNBAR, I THINK THAT'S -- IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN THAT SHE REFERRED TO.

LET'S SAY DUNNBAR. SO ON ELECTION DAY YOU GOT A LOT OF BALLOTS COMING THROUGH.

IS THERE ONLY ONE BOX THIS HOLDS THE PAPER BALLOTS? OR DOES IT GET FULL AND SET ASIDE AND WE USE ANOTHER ONE. ALL RIGHT. SO THERE IS SUPPOSED TO BE DOCUMENTATION OF WHICH BALLOT BOXES I PRESUME. I CAN ONLY PRESUME THESE ARE ALL NUMBERED. I CAN ONLY PRESUME AT THE END DAY OF THE THEY ARE ALL SEALED RIGHT? BECAUSE YOU DON'T LEAVE AN UNATTENDED BALLOT BOX OVERNIGHT UNSEALED DO YOU? I DON'T KNOW. WE DON'T HAVE POLICIES AND PROCEDURES THAT EXPLAIN WHAT SHE DOES. BUT EVERYBODY WAS ACTING LIKE WITH A DOES BALLOT BOX MEAN? IT'S THE BUCKET ALL THE PAPER BALLOTS GO INTO.

THEY NEED TO BE DOCUMENTED. THEY HAVE NUMBERS. THEY NEED TO BE DOCUMENTED.

THAT'S NOT DONE, SO WE DON'T SHE PULLED THOSE BALLOTS. FROM IDEALLY, WE WOULD HAVE A LEDGE HEAR IT SAYS OH, THESE BALLOTS WERE FOUND IN THESE DIFFERENT BALLOT BOXES AND YOU HAVE TO MAKE IS ACCOUNT FOR THOSE, RIGHT? I MEAN, ANYBODY IMPORTANT WOULD BE FIRED FOR DOING SUCH A THING: WE DON'T HAVE THE DOCUMENTATION. THE ROISHD ORDER NAMING WHICH TEMPORARY AND PERMANENT EMPLOYEES ARE TO -- REQUIRED -- PARTICIPATE IN THE MANUAL COUNT.

WE DON'T HAVE THAT. WHY? ULT HAVE TO FIND -- YOU'LL HAVE IT FIND OUT. DOCUMENTATION CHANGES TO THE BALLOT BOX THE OH, MY GOSH WHAT DOES THAT MEAN. THEY ARE SEALED IN THE POLLING PLACE RIGHT BEFORE THEY LEAVE.

THEY ARE PUT IN SOMEBODY'S HANDS. THEY ARE TAKEN TO THE HEADQUARTERS AND THEY ARE RECEIVED. WHOEVER IS RECEIVING THEM I PRESUME LOOKS IT MAKE SURE THEY ARE STILL SEALED, TO MAKE SURE NOTHING HAPPENED IN TRANSIT.

WHERE IS THE CHECKLIST THAT THEY SAW THEM AND THEY STILL HAVE BEEN SEALED? SO THEN THEY COME IN. THEY RECEIVED. THEY ARE MOVED IN AS I CAN GATHER FROM THE CONVERSATION INTO SOMEWHERE IN THE ELECTIONS OFFICE, A SECURED ROOM.

THE STATEMENT LAST WEEK WAS THAT THEY ARE THERE FOR TEN DAYS BEFORE THEY ARE OPENED, BUT THEN WE HAVE AN ALTERNATIVE STATEMENT THAT THEY HAVE TO BE PARTIAL MANUAL COUNTED WITHIN THREE DAYS. SO THOSE TWO THINGS KIND OF SORT OF CONFLICT.

THEN THE QUESTION CAME UP WELL WHAT DOES THAT MEAN REVIEW THE SEAL BEFORE THE PARTIAL MANUAL COUNT? YEAH. IF THEY HAVE BEEN STORED FOR THREE DAYS WHEN THEY COME BACK AND THEY BEGIN THE PARTIAL MANUAL COUNT YOU WANT IT INSPECT THE SEALS IT MAKE SURE THEY ARE STILL SEALED WITH THE SAME SEAL THEY WERE SEALED WITH LAST TIME RIGHT? I MEAN, IT'S OBVIOUS. SO FROM THERE YOU OPEN IT UP.

SOMEBODY DOCUMENTS IT WAS SEALED. SOMEBODY DOCUMENTS WAS OPENED.

WHICH ONES WERE OPENED. SOMEBODY DOCUMENTS WHO FLEECHZ AND WHO PULLS BALLOTS OUT.

THESE ARE ELECTIONS. YOU DOCUMENT ALL OF THIS STUFF DURING THE COUNT YOU DOCUMENT

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WHO IS COUNTING. ONCE YOU GET THEM COUNTED AND MAKE THE REPORT SOMEBODY IS PUTTING THEM BACK IN THE BOX AND RESEALING THEM RIGHT? DO WE JUST TAKE SOMEBODY'S WORD THAT ALL THAT HAPPENED? THAT'S CRAZY. DOCUMENTATION OF WHO -- LET'S SEE. DOCUMENTATION OF THE BREAKING OF TAMPERING OF EVIDENCE SEALED PRIOR TO BEING DELIVERED TO THE COUNTY TEAM YEAH. DOCUMENT WHITION HAS ASSISTED THE -- DOCUMENTATION WHO AESD THE BALLOT BOXES. DOCUMENTATION OF THE BREAKING OF THE SEALS, YEAH. -- ASSISTED. WHO WAS PRESENT.

DOCUMENTATION OF THE TEMPORARY AND PERMANENT EMPLOYEES WHO WERE THE AND PARTICIPATED.

THAT'S THE SIGN-IN SHEET WE WERE TALKING ABOUT A MINUTE AGO. WHERE IS IT? WE DON'T HAVE THAT. THIS IS NOT ALL INCLUSIVE OF WHAT WAS IN THE ELECTIONS ADVISORY 2018-30. BUT I PULLED THEM OUT TO GET A SENSE, TRIED TO GET A SENSE AND I MADE THE REQUEST AND ALL THIS CAME BACK, NO. NOTHING THERE.

>> HIJACKED THIS BACK FOR A MINUTE. >> YES, SIR.

>> THANK YOU. SO I KNOW THAT WE'RE CUTTING THIS SORT.

I KNOW THIS PERSONALLY BECAUSE I'VE GIVEN OF MY TIME BECAUSE ELECTION INTEGRITY IS A VERY BIG DEAL TO ME AS MR. BRANNON KNOWS. HE CAN GO AN OH. HE CAN GO ON FOR AN HOUR.

HE CAN GO ON FOR TWO MORE HOURS BECAUSE THERE IS THAT MUCH CONCERN ABOUT HOW HAYS COUNTY RUNS ITS ELECTIONS. AND THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE. SO MY FIRST REQUEST WILL BE FROM WHAT MR. BRANNON HAS SAID SO FAR WE CAN GO ONE BY ONE. COMMISSIONER INGALSBE, WE'LL START WITH YOU. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR CLARIFICATION LIKE DID YOU EARLY DWLAER COULD HELP SHED LIGHT ON THE REASON WHY I CREATED THIS AGENDA ITEM.

-- EARLIER. >> I DON'T KNOW IF I HAVE ANY QUESTIONS TO CLARIFY THE INFORMATION YOU JUST SHARED. I THINK I WOULD MORE WANT JENNIFER TO ANSWER SOME OF THESE

QUESTIONS. >> WE'LL GET TO THAT IN A MINUTE.

YES, MA'AM. YES, MA'AM. WHILE MR. BRANNON IS ON THE PODIUM AND GIVEN US, REALLY I KNOW THIS A SNIPPET OF WHAT HE HAS.

I WANT TO ALLOW THAT QUESTIONING TO GO TO HIM ON ANYTHING HE'S ASKED AND THEN WE'LL ASK MISS

ANDERSON TO COME UP. >> JUDGE, I'LL JUST SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, IT IS IMPORTANT TO ME.

YOU KNOW, ELECTIONS AND VOTING INTEGRITY IS VERY IMPORTANT ME. SO I THINK THAT IT WOULD BE GOOD TO HAVE THIS CONVERSATION AND TRY TO, EXCUSE ME, GET TO THE BOTTOM OF THE QUESTIONS THAT ARE BEING ASKED. AND I KNOW THAT WE'LL GET TO THE AGENDA ITEM ALSO, JUDGE, AND I'M SO SORRY. BUT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO LOOK AT WHAT THAT PROCESS IS FOR HIRING BECAUSE I'VE TALKED TO A COUPLE OF PEOPLE, ONE FROM THE SOS AND ONE FROM TACK LEGAL, AND I KNOW THAT WE CAN PROVIDE THE FUNDING FOR A PERSON. I'M NOT SURE THAT THIS COURT CAN ACTUALLY MAKE THAT APPOINTMENT FOR SOMEONE. SO JUST SOMETHING THAT I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE CLARIFY WHETHER OR NOT WE ACTUALLY HAVE THE AUTHORITY.

I'M BEING TOLD THAT WE DO NOT HAVE THE AUTHORITY, THAT THE FUNDING IF WE SO CHOOSE THE FUNDING GOES TO THE ELECTIONS OFFICE AND THEN THEY DO THE HIRING OF A POSITION.

BUT WE CAN HAVE MORE DISCUSSION ON THAT. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO JUST KNOW WHAT OUR AUTHORITY IS HERE. BUT I KNOW THAT I BELIEVE JENNIFER ASKED FOR AN ADDITIONAL PERSON OR PART-TIME PERSON. AND WASN'T -- I DON'T BELIEVE WE GAVE IT TO HER IN THE BUDGET.

BUT I THINK THAT WE'RE GOING TO NEED CLARIFICATION ON THE QUESTIONS I'VE JUST RAISED.

>> THANK YOU. FOR MR. BRANNON DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS SIR?

>> NO. NO. OK.

WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO IS WHILE YOU'RE STILL THERE MR. BRANNON IS SPEAK A LITTLE BIT ON WHAT YOU JUST SAID COMMISSIONER INGALSBE. YOU'RE RIGHT.

ME MUST TALK ABOUT THIS. THIS WILL NOT GO AWAY. THIS HAS BEEN LINGERING FOR YEARS, AND THE COMMUNITY DESERVES TO BE HEARD AND THAT'S WHAT WE SIGNED UP FOR.

WE SIGNED UP TO HEAR FROM THE SILTRY. -- CITIZENRY.

I'M GOING TO DO EVERYTHING I CAN TO CONTINUE. THERE ARE THINGS SAM AND I DON'T AGREE ON. I'M IN THE WORRIED ABOUT IT. I'VE ALWAYS SAID THIS.

LET'S WORK ON THE THINGS WE DO AGREE ON AND WORK ON THE THINGS WE DON'T AGREE ON LATER.

SO I AGREE ELECTION INTEGRITY IS A VERY BIG DEAL AS YOU'VE JUST STATED COMMISSIONER AND I'M GLAD YOU STHOORP EFFORT, AND BECAUSE THERE ARE -- YOU SUPPORT THAT EFFORT.

AND BECAUSE THERE ARE SO MANY CONCERNS, AND THE LONGER WE TAKE THE TIGHTER THE TIME LINE WILL

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BE AND THIS HAS GONE ON LONG ENOUGH. I DIDN'T NEGOTIATE MR. BRANNON'S PRESENCE HERE. WHAT I TRIED TO DO IS CREATE A PROCESS THAT WOULD BE MOST IMPACTFUL BECAUSE THE LAST THING I WANT TO DO IS WASTE PEOPLE'S TIME.

ALTHOUGH SOMEONE MAY THINK WHO IS WATCHING, OH, THIS IS A WASTE OF TIME.

THAT'S OK. YOU CAN'T PLEASE EVERYBODY. BUT I WILL SAY WHEN YOU SAY YOU DON'T HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO PUT SOMEONE IN THOSE CAPACITY, ONLY HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO FUND.

WELL THAT IS A BIG PIECE OF THIS COURT IS TO BE LIKE CONGRESS. THE PURSE STRINGS.

I WILL SAY THAT AS A CHAIR OF THE ELECTIONS COMMISSION, I WAS TOLD I HAVE NO AUTHORITY AND IN EVERY SPACE ELECTIONS FOR THE COUNTY IS THE HIGHEST ELECTED OFFICIAL IN THE COUNTY AS SOME PEOPLE LIKE TO SAY. WE HAVE NO AUTHORITY TO COULD ANYTHING AND I WILL NOT ACCEPT THAT. I'M NOT COMPLAINING ABOUT WHAT YOU SAID.

I WILL NOT ACCEPT THAT. I WILL PUSH ON TO DO WHAT WE CAN TO SATISFY THE CITIZENRY TO PROVIDE THE OVERSIGHT THAT GIVES THE COMFORT THAT ELECTION BOX BALLOT PROCESS WILL BE UPHELD IN THE VERY BEST WAY POSSIBLE, EVEN IF IT MEANS WE CREATE A POSITION A TEMPORARY POSITION TO HAVE SOME KIND OF OVERSIGHT CAPACITY. I BELIEVE THERE'S MORE THAN ONE WAY TO SKIN A CAT AND I DON'T THAT PUTTING A STAFF POSITION INSIDE THE ELECTIONS OFFICE WILL SATISFY THE AGENDA REQUEST, OR MR. BRANNON'S REQUEST OR ALL THE THINGS I'VE BEEN HEARING. IT'S NOT ABOUT ANOTHER PERSON ON A COMPUTER OR WORKING A SITE OR A SPOT. IT'S ABOUT SOMEONE TO TRULY HELP MAKE SURE THAT EVERYTHING THE COMMUNITY IS ASKING FOR AND THE STATE IS ASKING FOR IS ACTUALLY EXECUTED EFFECTIVELY AND TIMELY AND I BELIEVE THAT THIS IS JUST A NO-BRAINER IN MY MIND BECAUSE WHO IS NOT FOR OPEN AND TRANSPARENT GOVERNMENT? I KNOW WE ARE SO.

I FEEL THAT THAT IS IN THE SPIRIT OF OF THAT. SO I WOULD LIKE IT -- IF YOU DON'T HAVE ANY CLOSING THOUGHTS I'D LIKE TO CALL MISS ANDERSON UP.

>> YEAH, SO THIS HAS GONE ON A LONG TIME. IT HAS GONE ON UNED DRESSED.

IT CAN'T GO ON UNADDRESSED ANY LONGER. WE HAVE TO TAKE ACTION.

I'M A SOLUTIONS GUY. WHAT I'D LIKE TO SEE HAPPEN, I'VE BEEN VERY IMPRESSED WITH YOUR ATTENTION TO THIS. I WOULD LIKE YOU AND I TO WORK TOGETHER WITH ELAINE CARDENAS TO DO OUR INVESTIGATION THIS WEEK TO FIND OUT WHAT REALLY DID HAPPEN HERE, AND BY FRIDAY WE SHOULD HAVE AN ANSWER ON ALL OF THESE QUESTIONS AND PROBABLY MORE IF WE DO IT RIGHT.

I CAN CLEAR MY SCHEDULE TO DO IT. I'M NOT PAID BY THE COUNTY.

I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE THREE US DO THIS. THAT'S WAY IT'S NOT A PARTY THING. WE HAVE COUNTY ELECTIONS COMMISSIONER.

WE HAVE SOMEBODY FROM THE PUBLIC WOULD IS MORE ENGAGE AND MORE OFFENSE THAN ANYBODY IN HERE PUT TOGETHER JUST BECAUSE I'VE BEEN AT IT LONGER RIGHT? AND WE ALL REMEMBER, YOU KNOW, THREE, FOUR YEARS. I'M ASKING FOR MISS CAR DANE ASSIST -- CARDENAS' TIME HERE TO WORK WITH ME. I'M NOT HERE TO CREATE A PROBLEM.

I'M HERE TO SOLVE A PROBLEM. IF WE DON'T DO IT THIS WAY AND COME TO AN AGREEMENT IT'S GOING TO LINGER. AND THIS IS RECOURSE AT THE BALLOT BOX.

THERE IS NO SAFE SOCIETY WHERE THAT'S IN QUESTION. I DON'T WANT THAT TO HAPPEN IN THE TOWN WHERE I LIVE. IN THE COMMUNITY WHERE I LIVE. AND I THINK THAT WE OWE IT.

AND I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT ON THE AGENDA NEXT WEEK, SO THAT WE CAN COME BACK AND REPORT WHAT WE FOUND AND GET TO THE BOTTOM OF THIS. AND I DO THINK IT'S GOING TO TAKE SOMEBODY OUTSIDE THE ELECTIONS OFFICE TO GIVE IT SOME OVERSIGHT.

I'M NOT ASKING TO YOU HIRE ME FOR IT. I'M NOT LOOKING IN FOR JOB.

THERE ARE PROBABLY 5,000 PEOPLE IN THIS COUNTY THAT ARE CAPABLE OF DOING THAT.

SO WE HAVE OPTIONS. WE CAN HIRE A. -- HIRE A FIRM.

OUR AUDITORS OFFICE HAS THE CAPABILITY OF DOING THAT BUT I WANT TO PARTICIPATES IF THAT'S THE CASE RIGHT? SO I'M OPEN TO OTHER SUGGESTIONS.

I'M PUTTING THAT OUT THERE AS A SUGGESTION. I'LL TAKE A SEAT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE INDULGENCE. >> THANK YOU, SIR AND YOUR TIME IS VERY VALUABLE TO ME AND I KNOW I SPEAK FOR THE COURT. WE VALUE YOU AS A CITIZEN AND YOUR ENGAGEMENT AS A REPRESENTATIVE OF THE REPUBLICAN PARTY.

ALL THE PIECES YOU WEAR AND REPRESENT, I VALUE YOU AS A HAYS COUNTY BEATING HEART.

SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMITMENT. MISS ANDERSON WOULD YOU PLEASE STEP UP TO THE PODIUM STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD AND I GUESS AT THIS POINT THIS TIME WE COULD START WITH COMMISSIONERS ASKING QUESTIONS UNLESS YOU HAVE SOMETHING SPECIFIC YOU WANT TO

DIVE RIGHT INTO. I'LL LEAVE IT UP TO YOU. >> I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHERE TO

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BEGIN ALL OF THOSE COMMENTS. OF COURSE, I DO HAVE RESPONSES TO THEM, BUT I GUESS I'LL GO AHEAD WHILE IT'S FRESH ON Y'ALL'S MIND ANDS WHATEVER QUESTIONS Y'ALL HAVE.

>> OK. COMMISSIONER QUESTIONS STARTING ON THIS SIDE.

>> YOU CAN END WITH ME. >> OKAY. >> NO, I APPRECIATE IT.

>> COMMISSIONER INGALSBE, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR YOU SPECIFICALLY?

WE CAN ALWAYS COME BACK IF YOU WANT IT GATHER SOME THOUGHTS. >> SO I'LL GO AHEAD AND START.

THANKS JEN FOR BEING HERE. ONE OF THE FIRST QUESTIONS THAT I HAVE UNDER THE NEW REQUIREMENT THAT'S SAM MENTIONED HERE. SO I BELIEVE SAM, CORRECT ME IT I'M WRONG, YOU SAID THAT THE REPORT THAT YOU GOT ONLY HAD THE ELECTION DATE BALLOT. IS THAT CORRECT? AND SO THERE'S TWO OTHERS, JENNIFER, THE ELECTION VOTING IN-PERSON BALLOT THAT WERE COUNTED, THE THIRD PERSON SCANNER CENTRAL SCANNER AND THE EARLY VOTING BY MAIL BALLOTS WITH THE SAME WORDING BEHIND IT. WERE THOSE TWO OTHER DOCUMENTS PROVIDED?

OR WERE THEY CREATED I GUESS OR PROVIDED? >> SO THE WAY THAT WE -- I WENT THROUGH THIS A LITTLE BIT LAST WEEK. THE WAY WE GIVE THAT INFORMATION TO THE STATE IS WE UPLOAD IT IN AN APP. THAT IS NOT WHAT I GIVE THE STATE. WHAT YOU HAVE THERE AND WHAT MR. BRANNON CAME FROM ME THAT DATA OUT OF AN APP. AND THE WAY IT WAS EXPLAINED TO ME FROM THE SECRETARY OF STATE'S OFFICE IS THAT IT WAS MISS SOMETHING DATA SETS. THAT'S WHY YOU DON'T HAVE IT ON

THE SPREADSHEET. >> DID YOU PROVIDE IT TO THE STATE AND THEY IN RETURN DID

PROVIDE THE COMPLETE REPORT. >> YES. >> IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SNAG.

>> YES, AND THAT'S WHAT WAS TOLD ME FROM THE STATE -- SAYING? AND ALSO THEY GET INFORMATION MR. BRANNON GOT. THEY GET THE INFORMATION I PUT INTO THE APP AND WE ALSO HAVE TO TURN IN OUR PRECINCT AND PRECINCT REPORT THAT MR. BRANNON SO THEY ALSO DO THEIR OWN COMARS SON SO OBVIOUSLY IF THERE WERE DOING ANY DISCREPANCIES THEY WOULD HAVE CONTACTED ME.

>> SO THE INFORMATION THAT YOU RECEIVED WAS FROM THE SECRETARY OF STATE OR FROM OUR -- YES.

>> HOW ABOUT THIS? SORRY. COULD YOU GET HIM THE MICROPHONE SO AT LEAST HE'LL GO INTO THE RECORD AND THEY WON'T HAVE TO SHARE THE PODIUM.

WE'LL DO IT THIS WAY. I WANT TO HEAR YOUR ANSWERS. THIS IS WHY WE'RE DOING THIS BUT

I WANT TO MAKE SURE HE GETS HEARD. >> SOME RESPONSE TO MY REQUEST ON WHAT HAYS COUNTY GAVE TO THEM DR. CARDENAS GOT TO SEND THE DIRECT RESPONSE.

>> IF YOU DON'T MIND PERFECT. >> SO JUDGE, I'M NOT -- THE SECRETARY OF STATE DIDN'T SEND THE COMPLETE REPORT. I'M NOT SURE OF WHAT HOW ARE WE SUPPOSED TO CORRECT THAT?

CALL THE SECRETARY OF STATE AND TRY TO GET THAT INFORMATION. >> SO JUST TO RECAP BECAUSE WE HAD A LITTLE MOVING AROUND IN THE COURTROOM. COMMISSION ARE INGALSBE ASKED ABOUT THE STATEMENT MR. BRANDON MADE ABOUT THE REPORT THAT THE SECRETARIES OF STATE PROVIDED HIM THAT THEY GAVE THE STATE THE COMPLETE REPORT BUT DID NOT FORWARD THE COMPLETE REPORT TO MR. BRANNON. I KNOW ARE ARE A LOT OF MOVING PARTS WANTED TO SUMMARIZE FOR

THE VIEWING AUDIENCE. >> UNDER THE GENERAL PROCEDURES OF CONDUCTING A PARTIAL MANUAL COUNT. DID THAT HAPPEN, JENNIFER? AND ALL THE INFORMATION WAS PROVIDED. LET ME SEE BECAUSE IT SAYS THE GENERAL CUSTODIAN SHALL IDENTIFY BY WRITTEN ORDER, WHICH TEMPORARY PERMANENT EMPLOYEES WILL PARTICIPATE ON THE MANUAL COUNT? WAS A LIST OF THOSE EMPLOYEES PARTICIPATED ON THE PARTIAL

MANUAL COUNT PROVIDED? >> NO, AND I DON'T HAVE A FORM OR AN ORDER FORM FOR THE PARTIAL MANUAL RECOUNT. THAT HAPPENS ROUTINELY AFTER EVERY ELECTION VIA THAT ADVISORY. SO IF THERE IS A WRITTEN ORDER, I DON'T KNOW WHO ORDERS IT.

WE ORDER AN ELECTION. THE SECRETARY OF STATE ORDERS THAT FUNCTION OR ACTUALLY THE ELECTION CODE DOES. I'VE NEVER BEEN PROVIDED WITHIN ORDER OF.

>> OK. SO WHEN IT SAYS THE GENERAL CUSTODIAN SHALL IDENTIFY BY

WRITTEN ORDER, WHO IS THE GENERAL CUSTODIAN? >> THAT WOULD BE ME.

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>> IS THERE JUST A FORM OR SOMETHING THAT YOU CAN CREATE AND PARTICIPATE.

>> I DID THAT BASED ON LAST WEEK'S CONVERBATION IS. >> WE DO HAVE THAT NOW AND

MOVING FORWARD WE'LL CONTINUE TO HAVE THAT? >> YES.

>> JUST IT MAKE SURE BUT YOU DIDN'T BEFORE, IS THAT CORRECT? >> YES, I DID THAT BASED ON LAST

WEEK'S CONVERSATION. >> THANK YOU. >> OK.

SO THE ANSWER IS NUMBER TWO. AND THE QUESTION THAT YOU SENT. THEATION AT THE BALLOT BOX THAT ARE SUBJECT TO THE RESOUNT. -- DOCUMENTATION AT THE BALLOT BOX THAT IS SUBJECT TO THE RECOUNT. SAM, DID YOU NOT RECEIVE THAT, IS THAT CORRECT?

>> YES, THAT DID NOT COME TO ME. >> WAS THAT INFORMATION SENT? >> I MEAN, I'M NOT SURE WITH A HE'S ASKING FOR IN ALL THESE. WHEN HE SAID DOCUMENTATION FOR THE BOXES SUBJECT TO RECOUNT.

WE TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT LAST WEEK AGAIN. AND SO WHAT I HAVE IS THE SEAL FORMS WHEN ALL THE BOXES AND ALL OF THE EQUIPMENT ARE BROUGHT BACK INTO THE OFFICE.

I HAVE THAT. THAT IS NOT WHAT WAS REQUESTED. WHAT WAS REQUESTED WAS SOMETHING SPECIFIC TO THE BOXES FOR RECOUNT AND OF COURSE, WE DON'T HAVE THAT INFORMATION IN

ADVANCE. >> JUST GIVE ME A SECOND TO TRY TO ORCHESTRATE A BIT OF THIS.

MR. BRANNONS APPARENTLY, IT WAS NOT CLEAR WHAT YOU ASKED FOR. -- BRANON.

CAN YOU BE CLEAR ON WHAT YOU ASKED FOR? CAN YOU BE CLEAR WHAT YOU ASKED FOR ON THIS PARTICULAR QUESTION. BECAUSE MRS. INGALSBE IS TRYING TO BE CLEAR IF MRS. ANDERSON

SENT IT. >> SO YOU WERE LOOKING AT NUMBER FOUR.

OK. NUMBER FOUR, THANK YOU, DOCUMENTATION OF THE BALLOT BOXES, WHICH BALLOT BOXES CONTAIN THE VOTER BALLOTS SUBJECT TO THE RECOUNT.

SO IF WE'RE REFERRING TO DUNNBAR AS THE LOCATION. DUNNBAR HAD ONE OR MORE BALLOT BOXES THAT THESE VOTES WOULD HAVE BEEN INSIDE OF. DOCUMENTATION OF WHAT THE SERIAL NUMBER OR BALLOT BOX NUMBER IS IN WHICH SOMEBODY STUCK HANDS IN AND PULLED BALLOTS OUT.

>> OKAY. I'LL STOP YOU RIGHT THERE. SO THAT IS WHAT HE ASKED THE SECRETARY OF STATE FOR. MISS ANDERSON, DID -- THAT WAS HAYS COUNTY.

>> I'M SORRY. THAT'S WHAT YOU ASKED HAYS COUNTY FOR.

DID DO YOU THAT? >> SO WHAT I HAVE IS DOCUMENTATION OF THE EQUIPMENT AS A WHOLE. THAT WOULD INCLUDE THE SCANNER, THE BALLOT BOX AND ALL OF THE EQUIPMENT THAT WENT TO THAT PARTICULAR POLLING LOCATION UNDER THE CUSTODY OF THAT PARTICULAR JUDGE. THAT'S WHAT I HAVE. AND THAT I CAN PROVIDE BUT THAT ISN'T WHAT WAS ASKED FOR. AND AGAIN IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT ALL OF THIS PIR REQUEST GOES THROUGH A PROCESS. SO IT'S CERTAINLY NOT JUST TO ME AND I WASN'T CLEAR ON WHAT HE WAS ASKING FOR, AND SO THAT'S WHY HE WASN'T GIVEN THAT PARTICULAR DOCUMENT THE THERE IS NO DOCUMENT JUST FOR PARTIAL MANUAL RECOUNT AND THE BOXES THAT WILL BE USED FOR THAT.

>> SO I'M GOING TO KEEP INTERRUPTING. I'M SORRY.

THAT'S NOT MY NATURE, BUT MR. BRANNON DID, ANYBODY REACH OUT TO YOU ASKING FOR CLARIFICATION OF YOUR QUESTION? APPARENTLY, IT WAS UNCLEAR WHAT YOU WERE ASKING FOR.

DID ANYBODY ASK FOR CLARIFICATION? >> NO, SIR.

>> AND I'M TALKING ABOUT THE STATE'S PROCESS. A LOT OF THESE THINGS BEING TALKED ABOUT HERE ARE NOT IN THE PROCESS THAT WE GO THROUGH WITH THE STATE.

IS WE'VE CREATED A DOCUMENT HERE FOR -- I'M SORRY, THE TRANSFER OF BALLOTS THAT IS NOT A REQUIRED FORM OR A FORM THAT'S EVEN AVAILABLE, AND ALL OF OUR FORMS COME FROM THE STATE.

SO WE NOW HAVE A DIFFERENT FORM FOR THAT WHICH IS AND I DON'T MIND LISTENING TO COMMENTS AND COMING UP WITH THOSE POLICIES, BUT IT HAS NEVER BEEN ISSUE. THESE THINGS STAY IN THE BOX UNTIL AFTER THE DEADLINE FOR RECOUNT UNTIL AFTER EVERYTHING THEY COME BACK FROM THE JUDGE WITH THE SEAL AND THAT SEAL IS DOCUMENTED. SO BY THE TIME THAT WE WOULD BE LOOKING AT TRANSFERRING THIS TO ANOTHER BOX AND HAVING THAT DOCUMENT WITH NAMES AND STUFF

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LIKE THAT, THOSE RECOUNT DATES DEADLINES HAVE PASSED. SO REALLY THAT'S JUST FOR RECORD

PRESERVATION AT THAT POINT. IF THAT'S MAKES SENSE. >> COMMISSION ARE, I'M GOING TO TRY TO RECAP SO THIS IS HOW I HEARD IT IT'S PROBABLY HOW SOMEONE ELSE HEARD IT SO IF I HAVE IT WRONG IT'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO FIX IT. SO YOU ASKED IF THAT WAS CREATED OR SUBMITTED AND MR. BRANNON CLARIFIED WHAT HE WAS ASKING FOR AND APPARENT, IT DIDN'T EXIST

AND WASN'T BEING USED BUT SHE WILL BE USING IT MOVING FORWARD? >> YES.

>> AND I GUESS THIS IS GOING TO APPLY TO THE NEXT ONE, THE REQUIRED ORDER NAMING WHICH TEMPORARY EMPLOYEES ARE TO PARTICIPATE IN THE PARTIAL MANUAL COUNT.

SO IT APPEARS WE DIDN'T HAVE ONE AND WE WERE GOING TO. >> YES, AND THAT'S ALL A PART OF

THE SAME DOCUMENT WE'VE COME UP WITH. >> AND SO DOCUMENTATION OF THE CHAIN OF CUSTODY ABOUT BALLOT BOXES. SO DO WE HAVE A CHECKLIST FOR

RECEIVING THIS? >> YES. IT'S PART OF THE SAME DOCUMENT I WAS JUST TELLING YOU ABOUT. IT'S THE SAME DOCUMENT THAT FOLLOWS FROM OUR ELECTION OFFICE

TO THE JUDGES AND BACK TO OUR OFFICE ELECTION NIGHT. >> SO WE HAVE A PROCEDURE FOR

THAT. >> RIGHT. AND THAT'S ALSO IN THE ELECTION CODE. A LOT OF THIS IS DEFINED BY THE ELECTION CODE.

>> AND I HEAR THE ELECTION CODE PIECE AND I UNDERSTAND AND APPRECIATE THAT.

BUT THAT'S NOT COMFORTING TO ME. SO WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO IS ENCOURAGE US AS A COURT WITH OUR I.T. IN THE BUILDING IN THIS COURTROOM RIGHT NOW TO PUT THESE DOCUMENTS -- WE HAVE A TAB FOR ELECTIONS TO PUT THESE DOCUMENTS ON OUR WEB PAGE UNDER ELECTIONS TO SHOW PEOPLE WHAT WE'RE DOING.

REMEMBER, PEOPLE NEED TO BE CONVINCED AT THIS POINT. AND SO I THINK PUTTING THESE DOCUMENTS BECAUSE I'VE CREATED THAT DOCUMENT. I JUST CREATED THIS DOCUMENT.

I LOVE IT HEAR THAT YOU'VE JUST CREATED SOMETHING PERFECT. SHOW THE IT IS.

THAT WAY, WE CAN MOVE ON TO SOMETHING ELSE BECAUSE THIS IS NOT GOING AWAY AS WE VERY WELL KNOW. SO I FEEL THAT IF WE PUT THESE DOCUMENTS THAT YOU CREATED UP FOR MR. BRANNON IT SEE THE CHAIN OF CUSTODY AND OTHER THINGS THAT WE HAVE FROM LAST WEEK'S CONVERSATION THEN I FEEL LIKE WE HAVE HAVE THAT COMFORT THAT SEEMS TO BE MISSING.

DOES THAT SEEM LIKE A REASONABLE ASK MR. BRANNON TO HELP CREATE CONFIDENCE? FIRST OF ALL THAT THE DOCUMENTS EXIST AND SECOND OF ALL OF COURSE, WE'LL FOLLOW UP ON THE

USE OF THEM. >> YEAH I THINK THERE'S A LOT GOING FORWARD TO IMPROVE THE PROCESS THAT'S A CONCERN WITH MINE AND MORE IMMEDIATE CONCERN, YES.

>> AND JUDGE, I GUESS I WAS -- I WAS GOING TO KIND OF RECOMMENDED SOME OF WHAT YOU JUST SAID.

NOW I KNOW THAT THERE WAS -- THERE'S BEEN A REQUEST AND I'M NOT ONE TO PUT ONE OF MY COLLEAGUES ON THE SPOT AND SAY, YOU KNOW, MAYBE THAT MEETING IS GOING TO HAPPEN.

BUT I THINK THAT IF IT DOES, I THINK A LOT CAN COME OUT OF THAT AND WE CAN MOVE FORWARD HAD A BETTER DIRECTION. YOU KNOW, IF THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN.

BUT ANYWAY, LET ME MOVE ON AND JUST -- IT SAYS NUMBER SEVEN EVEN THOUGH THIS WASN'T REALLY HIGHLIGHTED, DOCUMENTATION OF THE BREAKING OF ANY TAMPERED EVIDENCE SEALS PRIOR TO BEING DELIVERED TO THE COUNTY -- COUNTING TEAM. DO WE DOCUMENT IF ANY A SEAL THAT'S BEEN -- HAS BEEN TAMPERED WITH? DO WE HAVE THAT DOCUMENTATION?

>> WE HAVEN'T HAD ANY SEALS BEING TAMPERED, WITH BUT YES, OBVIOUSLY, IF WE FELT THAT WAS SOMETHING TAMPERED WITH OR SOMETHING THAT DIDN'T LOOK RIGHT.

FIRST OF ALL THERE'S A REQUIREMENT TO GIVE HAD A INFORMATION TO THE SECRETARY OF STATE'S OFFICE THE I ALSO WOULD GIVE THAT INFORMATION TO THE COURT BECAUSE THAT'S THE RESPONSIBLE THING TO DO, BUT WE HAVEN'T HAD ANY TAMPERED SEALS. NOW I THINK WHAT MR. BRANNON MAY BE TALKING TO OR REFERRING TO BECAUSE HE SPENT A LOT OF TIME AS A POLL WATCHER ON OUR CENTRAL COUNT ON TABULATION ON ELECTION NIGHT, IS THAT WHEN WE BREAK THOSE SEALS ON THE SCANNERS WE WRITE THAT DOWN. WE VERIFY THE SEALS. WE DO THAT WITH ALL OF OUR EQUIPMENT ANY TIME THAT A SEAL BROKEN. WE VERIFY THAT THE SEAL THAT IS ON IT IS THE SEAL THAT WAS LAST DOCUMENTED AND MOVING FORWARD. TO CLASSIFY SOMETHING AS A

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DOCUMENT OF THE BREAKING OF SEALS, I DON'T REALLY KNOW WHAT THAT'S ASKING FOR.

CLAIREFY ZMATION. >> MR. BRANNON WOULD YOU CLARIFY? -- CLARIFICATION. HERE'S WHAT I'M SHEARING FAR AND IT'S NO JAB ON ANYONE.

THIS IS GENERAL WHAT I'M HEARING. THIS IS WHAT WE'RE DOING.

BUT WE'RE HAVING A HARD TIME STHOG AND CONVINCING THE COMMUNITY IT'S BEING DONE.

I WANT TO BRIDGE THAT GAP. I WANT TO BE IN THIS CHAIR WHEN THIS THING FLIPS OVER TO ONFIDENCE OR STRONGER CONFIDENCE IN OUR ELECTIONS

CONFIDENCE. >> THAT'S PART OF WHAT I WAS TALKING ABOUT INTERNAL CONTROLS SOMETHING YOU CAN GO BACK AND AUDIT AFTER THE FACT. IT'S NOT JUSS ELECTIONS DIVISION THAT MIGHT BE AN AUDIT. IT MIGHT NOT BE THE OWN AUDIT IT.

MIGHT BE SOMETHING CITIZENS WANT TO SEE RIGHT. SO IT'S A VERY BAKES INTERNAL CONTROL THAT WHENEVER SOMETHING IS IMPORTANT IS CHANGING HANDS THAT WE GO THROUGH THAT.

THAT SHOULD BE -- THAT'S AGAIN 3 1/2 YEARS OF INFORMATION Q TRYING TO FIND OUT IF THAT'S BEING DONE AND EVEN STILL TODAY ALL WE HEAR IS OH, YEAH IT'S BEING DONE.

>> IT IS BEING DOCUMENTED. ALL OF OUR CHAIN OF CUSTODY IS DOCUMENTED.

>> AND DO WE HAVE ACCESS TO ALL OF THAT DOCUMENTATION JENNIFER? WHERE IS THAT?

WHERE CAN WE -- SOMEONE GET THAT? >> FROM OUR OFFICE.

>> SO IS IT NOT -- IS THAT SOMETHING WE DON'T PUT ON THE WEBSITE? IT'S JUST KEPT WITH YOUR OFFICE SO WE CAN COME IN AND REQUEST A COPY OF IT?

>> YES. IF WE HAD ALL OF THOSE DOCUMENTS ON OUR WEBSITE, THAT WOULD BE A LOT OF INFORMATION. WE ARE AWARD ON OUR WEBSITE BECAUSE THINGS ARE EASY TO FIND AND EASY TO FOLLOW. I THINK PUTTING ALL OF THAT ON THE WEBSITE WOULD MAKE IT ALMOST DIFFICULT TO NAVIGATE OUR WEBSITE AND BE ABLE TO FIND THE VERY SPECIFIC INFORMATION THAT MOST VOTERS ARE LOOKING FOR. AND I KEEP HEARING THAT PEOPLE SAY THIS AND THAT WE'RE GETTING SO MANY COMPLAINTS ON THIS. BUT OUR OFFICE TAKES A LOT OF PHONE CALLS AND A LOT OF VISITORS ALL THE TIME AND WE DON'T GET THESE COMPLAINTS. SO I DON'T FEEL LIKE MOST PEOPLE WOULD BE LOOK ON OUR WEBSITE FOR THESE DOCUMENTS. THEY ARE MOSTLY LOOKING FOR POLLING LOCATIONS, HOURS, SAMPLE BALLOTS, DISABILITY INFORMATION, AND THE THINGS THAT WE PROVIDE

ON THERE. >> OK BUT IT IS PUBLIC INFORMATION AND WE CAN REQUEST

THAT. >> COMMISSIONER? THE REQUEST WOULD BE FOLLOWED DEBORAH HENDERSON IN MY OFFICE AND WE WOULD MAKE A DETERMINATION ABOUT WHAT'S PUBLIC AND WHAT'S NOT AND REDACT ANYTHING THAT'S NOT. I THINK MOST THINGS HERE WOULD

BE, BUT IT WOULD BE REVIEWED FOR THAT PURPOSE. >> OK.

>> SO IT WOULD NOT BE -- THE REQUEST COULD BE FILED WITH MISS ANDERSON'S OFFICE BUT IT WOULD BE REDIRECTED TO MY OFFICE JUST SO THE PUBLIC KNOWS THAT'S WHERE IT SHOULD GO.

WEBSITE FOR PUBLIC INFORMATION OR A PAGE ON OUR WEBSITE WITH PUBLIC INFORMATION.

>> OK. SO MOST OF THE QUESTIONS THAT I'VE ASKED SO FAR WHICH MR. BRANNON REQUESTED, IT SAYS NO RESPONSIVE MATERIAL. AND SO WAS THAT BECAUSE THERE

WAS -- YOU WEREN'T -- DIDN'T HAVE CLARIFICATION? >> IF THERE DOESN'T SEEM TO BE A NEED FOR CLARIFICATION, I THINK THERE NOW SEEMS TO BE A NEED FOR CLARIFICATION ON ONE ITEM AT LEAST. BUT IF AT THE TIME OF THE IF THERE DOES NOT SEEM TO BE A NEED FOR CLARIFICATION AND THE DOCUMENT DOES NOT EXIST THAT IS THE RESPONSE WE WOULD GIVE.

>> OK, BUT I THOUGHT I JUST HEARD WELL A LOT OF IT IS MOVING FORWARD.

>> CORRECT. MOVING FORWARD THAT DOCUMENTATION WOULD BE AVA AVAILABLE. THIS DOCUMENTATION REGARDING BREAKING OF SEALS, FOR INSTANCE WITH NOT BE A RESPONSIVE DOCUMENT BECAUSE THERE WAS NOT A SEAL, AS I UNDERSTAND IT, BROKEN

THAT YOU DID NOT KNOW WAS BEING BROKEN. >> RIGHT.

AND AT THE TIME WHEN THAT REQUEST CAME IN DID NOT HAPPEN. >> SO THE DOCUMENTATION OF THE BREAKING OF THE SEALS OF THE BALLOT BOXES AFTER THE VERIFICATION ANYWAY.

SO WE WILL HAVE A LIST OF WHO WAS PRESENT AT THAT TIME? >> YES.

>> OK. AND NUMBER TEN, DOCUMENTATION OF THE TEMPORARY AND PERMANENT EMPLOYEES WHO WERE PRESENT AND PARTICIPATED IN THE PARTIAL HAND COUNT AND DOCUMENTATION OF THE START TIME AND THE COUNT AND END TIMES. IS THAT SOMETHING WE ALSO DO OR

ARE GOING TO DO? >> THIS IS THE SAME AS WHAT YOU WERE SAYING EARLIER.

YES. >> WELL IT WAS LISTED SEPARATELY BUT IT SEEMS LIKE IT ALL --

>> LET'S THIS WAY. MR. BRANNON, SINCE IT'S A SEPARATE ITEM LISTED AND IT'S

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BEING SAID BY MISS ANDERSON IT'S ONE PROCESS COULD YOU EXPLAIN WHAT YOUR NOTE MEANT.

>> IT'S A SIGN-IN SHEET THAT MR. BRANNON MENTIONED AT THAT TIME.

>> WHICH NUMBER ARE YOU LOOKING AT? >> NUMBER TEN.

>> DOCUMENTATION OF THE TEMPORARY AND PERMANENT EMPLOYEES.

YEAH, IT'S KIND OF GETTING BACK TO WHAT I WAS TALKING ABOUT REFERRING TO FORMER CONSTABLE AND THE SIGN-IN SHEETS. SHE IS ROISHD BY THE ELECTIONS DIVISION TO CREATE AN ORDER -- REQUIRED -- BEING THERE, AND THIS IS A DOCUMENTATION THAT THOSE CERTAIN PEOPLE OR OTHER PEOPLE WERE THE ONES THAT WERE THERE DOING THE HAND COUNT. AND AGAIN, IF YOU'RE MOVING AS DR. CARDENAS SAID LAST WEEK IF YOU'VE AN MOVING OUTSIDE THE OFFICE SOMEBODY IS RESPONSIBLE FOR AT THE ANSWER ISN'T MY STAFF. THE ANSWER IS, THERE'S A PERSON RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT. THIS IS DOCUMENTING WHO THAT PERSON IS.

SO IF THERE'S EVER ANY QUESTION WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO GO BACK AND AWED WHAT REALLY HAPPENED, RIGHT? SO IT'S RELATED. IT IS ACTUALLY DIFFERENT.

>> OKAY. AND JEN, I'LL LET YOU RESPOND. >> I'M RESPONSIBLE FOR EVERYTHING THAT HAPPENS IN THAT OFFICE. AS YOU JUST STATED I AM THE CUSTODIAN OF RECORD AND THE PROCESS OF ELECTIONS FOR AUDITING OR FINDING OUT IF THINGS HAVE BEEN DONE CORRECTLY OR IF THERE WAS A DISCREPANCY IS THE COURT PROCESS.

ELECTION CONTEST ARE FILED RECOUNTS ARE DONE, THINGS ARE DONE IN AN ELECTION IF PEOPLE FEEL HAD A THERE WAS SOMEHOW OR ANOTHER A MISHANDLING OF BALLOTS OR SOMEHOW OR ANOTHER THE TABULATION WASN'T ACCURATE OR THERE'S DISCREPANCIES. THAT'S THE REMEDY IN THE ELECTIONED TO THESE SORT OF THINGS. WE HAVE BEEN THROUGH AN ELECTION CONTEST AND OUR POLICIES AND OUR PROCEDURES ALL STOOD UP AND WE PREVAILED.

WE HAVE BEEN THROUGH A RECOUNT. AND ANYBODY THAT ATTENDED THAT RECOUNT I TOOK A PART OF THAT RECOUNT KNOWS THAT THE SAME HELD TRUE. THESE THINGS ARE REPORTED TO THE SECRETARY OF STATE'S OFFICE. THESE REPORTS ARE GIVEN TO THEM ALONG WITH THE NUMBERS THAT WE HAND TALLY, AND THERE'S BEEN NO DISCREPANCIES THERE AND WE'VE NEVER BEEN CONTACTED WITH ANY SORT OF DISCREPANCY THERE. SO IT'S REALLY EASY TO GET INTO THE WEEDS OF ALL OF THIS AND TRY TO NITED PICK CERTAIN THINGS AND I APPRECIATE YOU MR. BRANNON. I APPRECIATE THE DOCUMENT.

THE DOCUMENT HAS BEEN CREATED SO WHEN WE REQUEST THAT IN THE FUTURE YOU WILL GET THAT.

AND THAT'S A POLL STHA WAS DUE TO -- PLEASE ADDRESS THE COURT INSTEAD.

>> ALL THE HARD WORK THAT MR. BRANNON HAS DONE AND THAT IS A POSITIVE THING, AND I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THAT. I FEEL LIKE A SIMPLE PHONE CALL AND A MEETING PROBABLY COULD HAVE ACCOMPLISHED THAT. SO I'M NOT SAYING THAT SOMETHING POSITIVE HASN'T COME OUT OF THIS BUT TO CONTINUALLY TRY TO EQUATE ME TO MR. HELM, WHO HAD A WHOLE DIFFERENT SET OF CIRCUMSTANCES AND A WHOLE LOT OF OTHER THINGS GOING ON, THE PEOPLE IN MY OFFICE, IF THEY WERE TAKEN INTO A COURTROOM. THEY WOULD ATTEST TO THESE TRUE FACTS AND THEY WOULD BE

ACCURATE. >> TAYLOR: AND SO WHEN YOU BROUGHT UP AN ANTHEM DISPUTE.

>> -- WAS THAT A FEDERAL JUDGE YOU SAID? >> A STATE DISTRICT COURT.

WE HAD A VISITING JUDGE COMING FOR THAT. >> AND OUR ELECTION AT THAT

POINT WAS? >> THAT ELECTION WAS OVERTURNED. >> OVERTURNED.

OKAY. COMMISSIONER INGALSBE, DON'T FEEL RUSHED.

PLEASE TAKE YOUR TIME. I WANT TO GIVE THIS THE TIME IT DESERVES SO WE CAN TURN THE PAGE

AS A COUNTY. >> AND I APPRECIATE THAT JUDGE AND I HOPE EVERYONE HERE APPRECIATES IT ALSO. JENNIFER, CAN YOU TALK A LITTLE BIT -- I'M GOING TO KIND OF MOVE OFF THIS BECAUSE WE WENT THROUGH THE ENTIRE LIST I THINK, AND I THEEP WE CAN IN OUR -- I KNOW THAT WE ARE GOING TO DEVELOP BETTER PROCEDURES GOING FORWARD AND DOCUMENTATION.

I APPRECIATE THAT AND I KNOW THERE'S STILL MORE TO DO. CAN YOU TALK TO ME A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHEN WE'RE IN ELECTION, AS WE WILL BE SOON EARLY VOTING STARTS.

I KNOW THAT WE HAVE POLL WATCHERS AND WE HAVE A BALLOT BOARD.

I GUESS THE POLL WATCHERS ACTUALLY GO TO THE POLLS AS PEOPLE ARE VOTING JUST TO LOOK I GUESS AND OVERSEE I GUESS IF EVERYTHING IS GOING ON -- I DON'T KNOW THAT THEY CAN SEE THAT NEED TO BE RECORD. I'M REALLY NOT EXACTLY SURE. SO THAT'S AT THE POLLS.

NOW WHEN THE COUNT IS DONE AFTER THE ELECTION IS OVER AT 7:00 THE PROCESS THAT HAPPENS IN COUNTING

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THE VOTES. CAN YOU SHARE WITH ME WHO IS ACTUALLY PRESENT TO KIND OF

OVERSEE WHAT'S GOING ON? >> YES, AND I WOULD LIKE, IF I MAY, TO START A LITTLE BIT BEFORE THAT, BECAUSE THE ACTUAL PROCESSING OF BALLOTS AND TABULATING BALLOTS HAPPENS SOMETIME BEFORE THAT AND DURING EARLY VOTING. SO THE ELECTION CODE ALREADY PUTS IN PLACE PUBLIC OVERSIGHT AND I HAVE VERY LITTLE TO DO WITH ACTUAL TABULATION OF BALLOTS OR PROCESSING OF BALLOTS. SO MAIL BALLOTS, AS THEYING IN, ARE PROCESSED BY THE SIGNATURE VERIFICATION COMMITTEE IN THE EARLY VOTING BALLOT BOARD AND

THE BALLOT RESOLUTION GROUP THAT CONSISTS OF THOSE SAME PEOPLE. >> CAN YOU TELL ME WHO THOSE

PEOPLE ARE. >> YES, SO THOSE ARE APPOINTEES THAT R APPOINTED BY OR BY RECOMMENDED BY THE PARTY CHAIRS AND THEN TAKEN TO THE ELECTION BOARD WHERE THE ELECTION BOARD ALSO VOTES ON HOLDING THAT RECOMMENDATION TO THE COURT AND THEN THEY ARE APPROVED BY THE COURT AND YOU GUYS APPROVE THOSE AUGUST. SO THOSE ARE YOUR JUDGES, YOUR ALTERNATE JUDGES, YOUR CLERKS AND YOUR EARLY VOTING BALLOT BOARD THAT ARE APPOINTED BY THE PARTIES. THOSE ARE THE FOLKS HAD A ACTUALLY HANDLE THE MAIL BALLOTS ALL THE WAY THROUGH OPENING THEM SCANNING THEM AND THEN THEY ARE PUT ONTO AN ELECTRONIC MEDIA JUST LIKE ALL OF THE OTHER DEVICES THAT WE TABULATE ON ELECTION NIGHT.

THEN ONCE WE COMPLETE THAT PROCESS ON ELECTION NIGHT THE COMMITTEE THAT MEETS US IS CENTRAL COUNTING. CENTRAL ACCOUNTING -- COUNTING ARE THE JUDGE AND ALTERNATE JUDGE WHICH ARE APPOINTED BY THE PARTY CHAIRS ALSO AND THOSE WERE ON THE LIST THAT YOU -- THAT I SUBMITTED TO THE DMRT AUGUST, ALSO. AND THEN -- COURT IN AUGUST ALSO. AND THEN JEFF MCGILL WHO HAS BEEN DOING HAD A PROBABLY SINCE ELECTIONS. I DON'T KNOW ABOUT 20 SOMETHING YEARS?

>> WE USED TO VOTE ON TABLETS, STONE TABETS? JUST KIDDING.

>> AND I'M IN 24R JUST AS A SECONDARY SET OF EYES -- THERE JUST AS A SECONDARY SET OF EYES TO MAKE SURE WHAT'S GOING FROM THE EQUIPMENT TO JEFF. I JUST LOOK AT IT AGAIN.

THAT'S PART OF OUR POLICIES AND PROCEED THE AND THEN THERE'S ALWAYS EVERY ELECTION SINCE I'VE BEEN THERE POLL WATCHERS AND STATE INSPECTORS AND MR. BRANNON HAS BEEN IN THERE MANY TIMES AS A POLL WATCHER. NEVER HAVE WE HAVE HAD ANYTHING REPORTED TO THE STATE THAT WAS ILLEGAL OR ANYTHING THAT ANYBODY EVER FELT MAY HAVE NEEDED ATTENTION, BY EITHER THE STATE

INSPECTORS OR THE POLL WATCHERS. >> SO POLL WATCHERS ARE AT THE ACTUAL POLLING SITES BUT THEN

THEY ALSO COME INTO THE CAMPUS, CENTRAL CAMPUS. >> YES.

AND WE HAVE HAD THEM AT MAIL BALLOT. WE HAVE HAD THEM AT EARLY MAIL BALLOT BOARD AND WE HAVE HAD THEM AT CENTRAL COUNT AND WE HAVE HAD THEM IN OUR POLLING

LOCATIONS, IN EVERY ELECTION. >> AND I GUESS I'LL ASK THIS QUESTION TO SAM BAIZ GUESS JENNIFER MENTIONED THAT THRUR -- SAM BECAUSE I GUESS JENNIFER MENTIONED THAT YOU ARE THERE AS

A POLL WATCHER. >> YES I HAVE BEEN THERE FIVE OR SIX TIMES.

>> CAN YOU JUST EXPLAIN TO ME HOW YOU FEEL ABOUT THAT PROCESS? HAVE YOU SEEN ANY CONCERNS?

>> YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU WATCH YOU HAVE A LIMITED ABILITY TO ENGAGE AND I'M WATCHING A CERTAIN PART AND ANOTHER PERSON IS WATCHING EARTH IN CERTAIN PART. AND KNOWING EXACTLY WHAT'S GOING ON, EVEN FOR SOMEBODY THAT TRIES AND WE TRY IT TRAIN OURSELVES UP.

IT'S A DIFFICULT THING TO DO. THERE ARE SOME PROCESSES THAT WE DO FOLLOW.

I DID MENTION ONE TIME ONE OF THEM SAID WELL THIS PROCESS IS DIFFERENT THAN DWE THAT LAST TIME. WHY IS THAT DIFFERENT? IT WENT HERE FIRST.

-- THAN WE DID LAST TIME. I GOT AN ANSWER BUT I CAN'T RECORD THAT STUFF BUT I DON'T REALLY KNOW WHAT TO DO AFTER. SO WE DO OUR BESTMENT CITIZENS COMING IN FROM THE OUTSIDE OWE BEST. CITIZENS COMING IN FROM THE OUTSIDE THAT WANT INTEGRITY, ALL WE CAN DO IS OUR BEST. WHAT IS THE DOCUMENTATION OF THE PROCESSES AND PROCEDURES? AND WHAT INTERNAL CONTROL IS THERE SO WE HAVE SOME ABILITY TO MEASURE WHAT IT IS WE'RE SEEING.

THAT'S WHY ART KENNEDY'S OFFICE GETS TIRED I'M SURE SEEING MY STUFF COME THROUGH ASKING FOR THE SAME THINGS OVER AND OVER AND WE NEVER GET THAT BACK, ANYTHING THAT'S MEANINGFUL TO THAT PROCESS. THAT'S WHY I'M STILL HERE TODAY IS I WANT TO UNDERSTAND.

YEAH, I DO HAVE SOME CONCERNS. NOTHING I CAN ARTICULATE FOR YOU BECAUSE I DON'T REALLY -- I WANT

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TO KNOW WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT BUT SOMEBODY HAS TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE THAT DOCUMENTATION, HERE'S HOW IT GOES BEFORE THAT CAN BE MEANINGFUL YOU UNDERSTAND?

>> DO WE HAVE ANYTHING LIKE THAT JENNIFER? FOR PEOPLE THAT DO PLAN.

I KNOW YOU DON'T APPOINT THEM BUT THEY ARE APPOINTED. WHAT SHOULD THEY BE LOOKING FOR? IS THERING? WRITING THAT NEEDED FROM THE SECRETARY OF STATE OR YOUR

OFFICE IS, THERE SOMETHING THAT SHOWS. >> SO THEY ARE NOT APPOINTED BY US AND NOT TRAINED BY BUT THERE ARE A NUMBER OF POLL WATCHING TRAINING FROM THE STATE PARTIES AND I BELIEVE THE SECRETARY OF STATE'S OFFICE HAS SOME RESOURCES ON THAT.

BUT I BELIEVE THAT I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, POLL WATCHERS ARE TYPICALLY APPOINTED BY A CANDIDATE OR A PACK OR SOMETHING TO LOOK FOR A SPECIFIC INTEREST, AND MORE OVERALL ELECTION PROCESS AND LEGAL STATUTE BEING FOLLOWED AND THINGS IN THE ELECTIONS WOULD BE PROBABLY THE STATE INSPECTORS THAT WE HAVE, THAT WE ALSO HAVE PRESENT. BUT WHAT I CONTINUE TO HEAR MR. BRANNON SAY IS THAT HE WANTS TO UNDERSTAND THE PROCESS. AND I WANT TO EXPLAIN TO HIM REAL QUICK THATS HAVING A DOCUMENT ISN'T GOING TO EXPLAIN THE -- REAL QUICK THAT JUST HAVING A DOCUMENT ISN'T GOING TO EXPLAIN THE PROCESS. HE'S IN PLENTY OF POSSESSION OF DOCUMENTS BUT HE'S STILL NOT UNDERSTANDING THE PROCESS. IF HE REALLY WANTS TO UNDERSTAND THE PROCESS I WOULD LIKE FOR HIM TO RETURN MY PHONE CALL AND TALK TO ME BECAUSE I KNOW THE PROCESS AND I CAN GET ANSWERS THAT HE'S TRYING TO FIND. IF HE WOULD WORK DIRECTLY WITH MY OFFICE AS OPPOSED TO TRYING TO WORK AROUND THE OFFICE WITH A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO REALLY DON'T

FULLY UNDERSTAND THE PROCESS. >> I'D LIKE IT WEIGH IN ON THAT STATEMENT QUICKLY IF YOU DON'T MIND THIS. REMINDS ME OF AN ATLAS. THIS REMINDS ME OF THOSE TIMES WHEN WE DIDN'T HAVE GOOGLE MAPS AND WE USED TO HAVE THIS SPIRAL IN THE CAR TO DETERMINE WHERE WE'RE GOING. EVEN THOUGH I'VE NEVER BEEN AA PARTICULAR CITY IT DOESN'T MEAN I DON'T NEED IT KNOW HOW TO GET SOMEWHERE. IF SOMEONE AT THAT CITY LIMIT SIGN SAID WELL JUST ASK ME AND I'LL TELL YOU I DON'T THINK THAT'S GOOD ENOUGH.

I BELIEVE THE ASK IS A FAIR ONE TO DRAW A MAP FOR ANYONE THAT WANTS IT WALK IN TO BE ABLE TO POINT TO A SPOT AND SAY HERE'S WHERE THAT COLD FRONT FEE SHOP I LIKE IS AT.

-- COFFEE. WHAT IF THAT SOMEONE ISN'T AVAILABLE AT THE TIME.

WHAT IS IT IT'S 3:00 IN THE MORNING AND MR. BRANNON WANTS IT TALK TO SOMEONE.

PUT THESE. THERE'S AN INDEX YOU CAN HAVE A SECTION OF JUST DOCUMENTS.

THAT WAY WE CAN KEEP THE SIMPLE PLACETIVE THE WEBSITE. THAT'S GOOD.

BUT I'VE ONLY HEARD MR. BRANNON SAY ONE TIME WASN'T RETURNED AND I'M STARTING TO FEEL AN ENERGY THAT IS NOT USEFUL, MEANING WE SHOULD AND REACH FOR WORKING TOGETHER AND SATISFYING, BECAUSE YOU REPRESENT EVEN IF IT'S JUST ONE PERSON. THAT'S ENOUGH.

AND MY THINKING IS IF WE CREATE A UNIVERSAL DOCUMENT THAT MR. BRANNON CAN POINT TO AND SAY I'M COMFORTABLE WITH OUR ELECTIONS PROCESS, HERE'S A ROAD MAP FROM START TO FINISH BECAUSE MR. BRANNON, YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND DOESN'T WORK FOR ME. I DON'T LIKE IT.

I DON'T EVEN LIKE THE SOUND OF IT BECAUSE MR. BRANNON SHOULD UNDERSTAND AND SO SHOULD YOU AND SO SHOULD I. EVERYONE SHOULD UNDERSTAND EVEN IF THEY HAVE A THIRD GRADE EDUCATION. I BELIEVE IT SHOULD BE AS UNIVERSAL AND AS DUMBED DOWN AS POSSIBLE IN WHATEVER WORD CHOICE YOU CAN THINK OF WHETHER IT BE A PICTOGRAM OF WHATEVER YOU WANT SO ANYONE THAT GOES TO THIS DOCUMENT CAN SEE THE TRAVEL PATH OF AN ELECTION PROCESS, LIKE SESAME STREET I THINK IT WAS. THEY USED TO SAY I'M JUST A BILL WHATEVER THAT LITTLE SONG, THE

PATH OF A BILL AND IT HAD LITTLE LEGS AND ARMS. >> SCHOOLHOUSE ROCK.

>> THANK YOU. SO THAUF THOUGHT PROCESS AND THEY ARE MAKE -- YOU HAVE THAT THOUGHT PROCESS AND THEY ARE MAKING FOLKS UNDERSTAND THE PROCESS OF A BILL SO.

I FEEL IT IS OUR JOB TO SHOW OTHERS, ANYONE EVEN ONE PERSON THE PROCESS OF A BALLOT CAST.

REACH OUT TO ME AND DON'T GO AROUND ME -- DON'T TALK TO OTHER PEOPLE.

NO. NO ONE SHOULD HAVE TO REACH OUT TO EVERYONE.

IT SHOULD BE ON THE WEBSITE AND WE ALL WALK AWAY. THAT'S WHAT I BELIEVE.

>> JUDGE, I DID HEAR JENNIFER, THAT YOU'RE WILLING TO SPEAK WITH MR. BRANNON ABOUT SOME OF THESE ISSUES OR MAYBE ALL THE ISSUES AND YEAH, HOPEFULLY WE CAN GET SOME DOCUMENTATION THAT

CAN HELP BECAUSE I MEAN, I APOLOGIZE FOR TAKING SO LONG. >> NO, DID YOU.

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>> IT'S HELPING ME ALSO WITH THE PROCESS THAT WE'RE ON THE BALLOT BUT WE DON'T HAVE -- WE DON'T

KNOW ALL THESE THINGS OR I DON'T IN A WAY. >> COMMISSIONER, YOU DID WONDER FLISMT I THINK ALL YOUR QUESTIONS WERE SINCERE AND COMPLETE -- WONDERFULLY.

I REALLY APPRECIATE THE EFFORT BECAUSE I BELIEVE ALL THE COMMISSIONERS WANT THIS TO BE RESOLVED. THE REASON I SAID THE FRAMING IS WE CAN'T SAY SAM PLEASE CALL ME BECAUSE WHAT IF SAM MOVES TOMORROW AND A NEW SAM COMES IN? WE'RE GOING TO START THE WHOLE THING ALL OVER AGAIN? I DON'T WANT TO. I DON'T HAVE THE TIME.

I'D RATHER ADDRESS IT COMPLETELY AND ENTIRELY FOR ANYONE THAT COMES THROUGH TOWN.

AND BE GONE IT. >> IF I MAY THAT'S THE PURPOSE OF HAVING THESE INTERNAL DPROLS SOMEBODY FROM THE OUTSIDE AND GET A VIEWING SO WHEN AN EXTERNAL AUDITOR COMES IN THEY HAVE THEY HAVE CONCERN CONCERNS ABOUT HOW IT OCCURS BUT IT SHOULD BE OBVIOUS TO ANY OUTSIDER ABOUT HOW A DOCUMENT GOES SHAH THANK YOU. AND JUDGE I THINK THAT I'M DONE FOR THAT FOR NOW AND I APPRECIATE THE TIME MY COLLEAGUES HAVE GIVEN.

>> ABSOLUTELY. WE ALL FEEL THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT AND I KNOW SOME OF IT IS AND IT'S NOT ON YOU BUT SOME OF THIS IS ANNOYING BUT WE HAVE IT ADDRESS IT IN THE MOST

COMPLETE WAY WE CAN. COMMISSIONER JONES. >> JUDGE.

COMMISSIONER INGALSBE DID A GOOD JOB. SHE HIT ALL THE POINTS THIS WERE BROUGHT UP. I'VE JUST GOT A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.

MARK, ARE WE STILL IN LINE WITH THIS AGENDA ITEM? I WANT TO MAKE SURE BEFORE I START ASKING QUESTIONS. I DON'T WANT TO GET US INTO ANY TROUBLE.

>> I WOULD HAVE HOPED WOULD YOU HAVE WAVED. I DIDN'T SEE ANYTHING.

>> I'M NOT GOING TO. I'M NOT UMPIRE UNLESS YOU WANT ME TO CALL A STRIKE OR A BALL

THEN I'LL BE THE UMPIRE. >> WELL THE WAY I SEE IT IS THE JUDGE HAS AN ITEM ON PROPOSING TO CREATE A POSITION NOT INDICATING EXACTLY WR THE POSITION TO BE CREATED -- EXACTLY WHERE THE POSITION TO BE CREATED OR SUPERVISED BY WOMAN, BUT THE BASIS OF THAT SACKS EVIDENTLY -- ACTION IS EVIDENTLY AT LEAST ONE CITIZEN EXPRESSING CONCERNS OVER WHY THE POSITION

SHOULD BE CREATED AND I THINK THE WHY IS WHAT YOU'RE HEARING. >> I THINK WE'RE GOOD.

I'M ALSO PAYING ATTENTION. THANK YOU MR. KENNEDY FOR THAT CLARIFICATION.

AS A CHAIR I'M ALSO PAYING ATTENTION TO MAKE SURE WE DON'T VEER NEEDLESSLY.

>> I'VE GOT A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS. COMMISSIONER INGALSBE HIT THE HIGHLIGHTS OF WHAT I THINK WE WANTED TO GET TO. I ALSO WANT TO SAY MY EXECUTIVE AMBER SCOTT WORKS IN ELECTIONS WHEN I'M NOT ON THE BALLOT. AND SHE'S VERY HAPPY WITH THE WAY THINGS ARE -- AND HOW YOU'RE DOING YOUR JOB THE I WANT TO BRING THAT OUT.

SOMEBODY WHO HAS MY EAR IS ONE OF YOUR BIG SUPPORTERS. WE HEARD A LOT OVER THE LAST I GUESS FOUR YEARS NOW ABOUT THE 2016 ELECTION. I GUESS THE CATALYST IS BEFORE YOU WERE THE ADMINISTRATOR. WE HAD A MUD BOAT IN MY PRECINCTANTH THAEM HAD TWO VOTERS AND FELT THEY VOTED DIFFERENTLY THAN WHAT WAS RECORDED.

-- ANTHEM. TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT HOW YOU GOT INVOLVED IN THAT AND HOW THE 1800 VOTES WERE FOUND AND THE PROCESS. IS THERE A PROCESS NOW PUT INTO PLACE. THANK YOU. EVERYBODY IS GETTING ALLERGIES

NOW. >> WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO BLUE START MISS ANDERSON IS, COMMISSIONER JONES REFERENCED THE MUD. THAT IS A MUNICIPAL UTILITY DISTRICT. THEY ARE NOT MUDDY VOTES. IT'S AN ACRONYM.

>> NOW THEY ARE PRETTY MUDDY. >> I JUST WANT SURE PEOPLE WHO ARE WATCHING HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THEY ARE SAYING AND THEY CAN FOLLOW ALONG.

>> OKAY. WELL I HAVEN'T REVIEWED ANY THAT DOCUMENT NATION A LONG TIME BUT THAT'S WHEN I FIRST STARTED IN THE OFFICE AND WORKING UNDER JOYCE FOR A COUPLE OF MONTHS DURING THAT ELECTION. AND SO WHAT HAD HAPPENED IS THAT MUD DISTRICT WAS ON THE BALLOT.

AS YOU SUGGESTED IN THE MUD DISTRICT TO VOTE BUT ONLY ONE VOTE REFLECTED ON 245 REPORT THAT WAS CANVASSED. SO MOVING FORWARD, I WASN'T IN CHARGE THEN SO I HAD NO CONTROL TO REALLY QUESTION ANYTHING OR LOOK AT ANYTHING UNTIL WHICH TIME I TOOK OFFICE THE FOLLOWING YEAR IN JANUARY AND THERE WERE A LOT OF COMMENTS, WERE A LOT OF QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT PARTICULAR VOTE SO I STARTED DOING MY OWN DOING MY OWN QUESTIONING AND I DON'T HAVE THE PAPERWORK HERE SO I KNOW AND BACK THENP THE JUST OF IT IS THAIL DETERMINE BY GOING BACK THROUGH THE

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ELECTRONIC FINAL THAT'S NOT ALL HAD BEEN COUNTED BECAUSE I WAS ABLE TO LOCATE IT.

MOBILE BALLOT BOX. BY THE TIME IT WAS OUR OLD EQUIPMENT IT WAS THE DEVICE THAT HELD THE VOTES, BECAUSE I FOUND TOTALITY IN THREE VOTES. TWO FOUR AND ONE AGAINST.

SO THE ONE AGAINST WAS NOT IN THE PRECINCT THAT THE MUD DISTRICT WAS ON THE BALLOT BOARD. SO WE KNEW THAT TO BE THE INCORRECT BALLOT WAS ISSUED TO THAT PERSON AND THE OTHER TWO VOTES WERE NOT COUNTED. SO UPON FURTHER INVESTIGATION I WENT BACK INTO THE PAPER FILES AT THAT POLLING LOCATION AND WAS ABLE TO DETERMINE THAT THERE HAD BEEN A DEVICE THAT HAD GONE DOWN IN THE GOVERNMENT CENTER IN EARLY VOTING THAT WAS REPLACED.

THE MBB FOR THAT DEVICE HAD NOT BEEN COUNTED. SO MY STAFF AT THE TIME WHICH HAD SINCE CHANGED WERE TRYING TO LOCATE THIS PARTICULAR DEVICE. AND ONE OF THE EMPLOYEES FOUND IT IN THE EQUIPMENT ROOM. SO WE WERE ABLE TO LOCATE IT. WE DID LOOK AT IT.

JEFF WAS ALSO INVOLVED A LITTLE BIT TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT WAS GOING ON.

WE WERE ABLE TO FIND THAT DEVICE. WE WERE ABLE TO LOOK AT THOSE VOTES AND WE DIDS VOTES ON THE WEBSITE. IT DIDN'T CHANGE THE OUTCOME OF ANY ELECTION AND IT DID ANSWER THE QUESTIONS, AND IT WAS MYSELF THAT BROUGHT THAT FORWARD TO THE COURT, LIKE I SAID TO COMMISSIONER INGALSBE IF THERE EVER WAS A DISCREPANCY.

>> I DON'T KNOW IN THE NEW EQUIPMENT THAT MAY NOT HAVE HAPPENED BUT IF IT COULD STILL HAPPEN WHAT POLICY DO YOU PUT IN PLACE IT MAKE SURE THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN.

>> SO BACK THEN I STARTED KEEPING AN INVENTORY OF ALL THIS EQUIPMENT IN MY OFFICE THAT GOES OUT TO POLLING LOCATIONS. WE HAVE NO EQUIPMENT SO WE'RE NOT HAVING TO REPLACE EQUIPMENT LIKE WE DID BACK THEN. WE HAVEN'T HAD TO AT ALL. BUT IF DWE AND WHEN WE STILL HAD THAT EQUIPMENT -- IF WE DID IT. F IT WAS PLACED IT WAS PLACED IN MY OFFICE.

ALSO AFTER EARLY VOTING THOSE DEVICES ARE PLACED IN MY OFFICE AND AFTER ELECTION DAY THEY COME STRAIGHT INTO US SO THEY ARE NEVER PLACED ANYWHERE ELSE EVEN IN ANOTHER SECURED ROOM OTHER THAN MYOFFS LOCKED AWAY THAT WAY IF THEY COULD -- MY OFFICE LOCKED AWAY SO THAT WAY IF THEY COME IN I CHECK THEM OFF. IN ADDITION JEFF AND I HAVE OUR OWN INVENTORY TABULATION RING.

SO WHEN THAT EQUIPMENT COMES IN AND THE SEALS ARE BROKEN I'M LOOKING AT THOSE AND MARKING THEM OFF AND SO IS JEFF JUST IT MAKE SURE NOTHING IS OVERLOOKED. AND YOU COULD PROBABLY TELL YOU MORE OF THE TECHNICAL COMPONENTS OF OUR NEW SOFTWARE BUT YOU ARE OUR NEW SOFTWARE WOULD NOT LET

US COUNT SOMETHING. >> I WAS GOING TO GET THROUGH THEM IF YOU DON'T MIND.

COMMISSIONER SHELL. >> QUESTIONS FOR CLARIFICATION. >> SURE INDEED.

SINCE WE'RE ON THAT TOPIC. THE 2016 ANTHEM. WE FOUND OUT ABOUT THAT I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU CALL IT TRIAL OR DISTRICT AND THE DISTRICT COURT CONTEXT OF AN ELECTION THIS ELECTION WAKZ CONTEST IN THE DISTRICT COURT. THAT WAS THE FIRST TIME OF THE THE VERY FIRST TIME I SAW THAT MENTIONED OF THIS CASE WHATEVER THIS TRIFLE THE DISTRICT COURT AND IT WAS THE TWO -- THE TWO VOTERS WHO WOULD BE SUPPORTIVE OF CREATING A MUNICIPAL UTILITY DISTRICT ON THEIR PROPERTY OBVIOUSLY WOULD BE VOTING FOR BECAUSE THEY ARE THE ONES CRYING TO CREATE IT. AND SOMEHOW THAT DIDN'T HAPPEN. IT SHOWED ONE VOTE AGAINST I BELIEVE. I BELIEVE THIS WAS ONE VOTE CAST AND IT WAS AGAINST THE CREATION OF THE MUD AND THAT WAS IT. THERE WERE TWO PEOPLE WHO SAID WE VOTED AND WE'RE PRETTY SURE WE VOTED TO CREATE THE MUD WHICH WOULD MAKE SENSE, BECAUSE THEY ARE CREATING A MUD ON THEIR OWN PROPERTY. SO THEY WENT BEFORE THE COURTS TO GET THAT REVERSED.

SINCE IT WAS ONLY TWO VOTERS THE JUDGE WOULD LOOK AT THEM AND SAY YOU'RE TELLING ME YOU'RE VOTING FOR THE YOU'RE THE ONLY TWO VOTERS THAT WOULD VOTE FOR THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE AND SAY HOW THEY VOTED. SO THE REASON THAT WAS ALSO COMPLICATED IS BECAUSE THERE WAS A VOTE OF NO. OK. SO AND THEN THE VOTERS SEEMED TO BE CONFUSED. MAYBE I DID VOTE. MAYBE I MISREAD IT AND I CLICKED THE WRONG BUTTON. SO THERE WAS SORT OF CONFUSION WREMPLT FROM AGAIN ME NOT BEING ON THIS BODY BUT WATCHING IT -- CONFUSION EVERYWHERE. AT THAT TIME THE ANSWER PROVIDED

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BY THE PREVIOUS ELECTION ADMINISTRATOR WHETHER IT WAS VOTER ERROR, THE REASON THIS PERSON MUST HAVE VOTED NO AND THE OTHER PERSON MUST HAVE ACCIDENTALLY NOT VOTE THE RACE.

REGARDLESS THEY WENT BEFORE A JUDGE AND SAID WE VOTED NO OR YES OR AT LEAST WE INTENDED TO AND FOR SOME REASON IT DIDN'T HAPPEN THAT WAY. WE'RE TELLING YOU RIGHT NOW WE VOTED QUESTION. THAT COULD BE THE END OF THE STORY.

THE VOTER MADE A MISTAKE. THEY HAVE GONE TO COURT, RECTIFIED THE SITUATION AND IT'S A DONE DEAL. WHEN MISS ANDERSON TOOK OVER I WAS CONCERNED ABOUT THIS, TOO.

ALL THE COURT AT TIME. I WASN'T ONE OF THEM BUT AS A CITIZEN I WAS VERY CONCERNED.

I BELIEVE THE COURT WAS TRULY CONCERNED ABOUT HOW THIS HAPPENED NOT JUST IT'S TWO PEOPLE. IT'S TWO PEOPLE SAYING WE TRIED TO VOTE YES.

WE'RE PRETTY SURE WE VOTED YES BUT THERE WAS ONE VOTE FOR NO AND THAT WAS IT.

SO MISS ANDERSON AND MR. MCGILL TOOK TRYING IT FIGURE OUT WHAT HAPPENED.

THE FIRST QUESTION IS DID THEY VOTE. WHEN DID THEY VOTE? YOU SIGN A PERSON WHEN YOU GO VOTE, ETC., AND I THINK THAT MISS ANDERSON JUST EXPLAINED SHE WENT THROUGH A PROCESS OF TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW THAT HAPPENED. THE NO VOTE WAS ALSO ANOTHER QUESTION, AND AT THAT TIME THE EQUIPMENT THAT WE USED WHEN YOU SHOWED UP AND WE WENT THROUGH THIS IN A MEETING. WE BROUGHT THE EQUIPMENT IN. THIS WAS THE ONLY WAY I LEARNED THIS STUFF. OTHERWISE I'M NOT GOING TO DIVE DEEP INTO THIS STUFF.

WHEN YOU SHOWED UP AT THE POLL AND YOU CHECKED IN WITHIN VISMTED THEY HAD A LAP TO.

THEY LOOKED UP YOUR NAME. THEY FOUND YOUR PRECINCT BOX. -- INDIVIDUAL.

THEY TOLD THAT TO ANOTHER INDIVIDUAL WHO PUNCHED IN SOME BUTTONS AND SPIT OUT A CODE WHICH WAS THE CODE FOR YOUR BALLOT. YOU WENT TO THE VOTING MACHINE AND TYPED A FOUR DIGIT CODE AND IT WAS SUPPOSED TO PULL UP THE BALLOT IN WHICH YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO VOTE. WE KNOW ALL THESE LINES CROSSING WHETHER IT'S A SCHOOL BOARD CITY COUNTY, STATE, EVERYTHING ELSE. AND THEY ALL HAVE AN INDIVIDUAL UNIQUE BALLOT ASSOCIATED WITH THAT. GEOGRAPHY WITHIN THE JURISDICTION OF THE ENTITIES.

WE KNOW IN TIME THERE'S HUMAN ERROR WITH THE PEOPLE PUNCHING BUTTONS.

THEY NINE 316 AND THEY TYPE 361, SOMETHING REVERSE OF NUMBERS. WE WOULD FIND THAT OUT BECAUSE A PERSON WOULD GO TO THE MACHINE TYPE IN THEIR CODE AND VOTE FOR THE MAYOR OF SAN MARCOS AND I'VE GOT MAYOR OF KYLE ON MY BALLOT. I DON'T LIVE IN KYLE. I LIVE IN SAN MARCOS.

MOST OF THE TIMES A VOTER WOULD GO BACK AND SAY THIS ISN'T MY BALLOT AND WOULD FIGURE IT OUT.

IT COULD BE THAT PERSON WAS ASSIGNED TO THE WRONG BALLOT THAT WHEN THEY WERE REGISTERED TO VOTE THERE WAS A HUMAN ERROR IN SAYING YOU LIVE IN THIS GEOGRAPHY THEREFORE, YOU SHOULD GET THIS RACE ON YOUR BALLOT ETC. SO THE NO VOTE WAS ONE QUESTION.

I DON'T KNOW IF THEY EVER CONFIRMED HAD, BUT THE NO VOTE WAS LIKELY SOMEONE GIVEN THE BALLOT THAT DID NOT HAVE THAT BALLOT. WENT TO THE POLL, HANDED THEIR DRIVER'S LICENSE TO SOMEBODY AND SPIT OUT THREE NUMBERS AND A LETTER OR WHATEVER THE CODE IS BUT THEY GOT A CODE FOR THE BALLOT THAT DID NOT MATCH THE JURISDICTION PERFECT WHICH THEY LIVE AND SAW ANTHEM MUD NO, AND PROBABLY VOTED NO. IT'S A GUESTS.

THE REASON I'M TELLING HAD STORY THAT WAS VERY IMPORTANT IN THE EQUIPMENT SIDE OF THING IS THAT'S NOT DONE. THAT'S NOT A GOOD IDEA TO HAVE THESE POINTS OF FAILURE WITHIN THE SYSTEM AND RELY ON THE VOTER TO COME AND SAY HEY I GOT THE SAN MARCOS SCHOOL BOARD ON MY BALLOT AND I LIVE IN DRIPPING SPRINGS ISD. SO THE OTHER POINT OF WHY DID THE -- NOT VOTE OR THEIR VOTE FOR THE MUD NOT COUNT? THAT'S WHAT MISS ANDERSON AND MISS MCGILL WENT TO LOOK FOR AND EVENTUALLY FOUND HAD 1860 AND SOME ODD VOTES THAT WERE NOT COUNTED, WAS -- I THINK WE CAN AGREE ON THAT AGAIN. WE WOULD NOT HAVE KNOWN THIS IF A CITIZEN SAID THERE'S A ELECTION BEING CONTESTED IN YOUR DISTRICT COURTS RIGHT NOW.

THAT'S WHAT SET THE COURT OFF TO UNDERSTAND THERE WAS SOMETHING WRONG, WHICH IS WHY I WELCOME DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THIS. SO THE REASON I'M SAYING THAT IS BECAUSE I STILL THINK AND WE DISCUSS THIS LAST WEEK ABOUT POLICIES AND TRACKING AND THINGS LIKE THAT IS WE CAN'T OVERDO IT.

I'LL ALWAYS STAND BY. THAT WE DID GET NEW EQUIPMENT. THAT ELECTION WAS ONE OF THE REASONS THAT PERSONALLY MADE ME BELIEVE IN A PAPER TRAIL SYSTEM HAD A WOULD YOU HAVE SOME WAY SOMETHING THAT EXISTS THAT WENT THROUGH THE ELECTRONIC SYSTEM THAT IS IN A BOX SOMEWHERE IN THE EVENT THAT THE RECONCILIATION DOESN'T ADD UP THAT YOU GO WELL HOLD ON.

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WE HAD 50 PEOPLE SIGNING AT THE POLL-IN SITE AND 30 ELECTION RONIC VOTES.

HOW IS THAT POSSIBLE? YOU CAN GO BACK AND SEE, GRAB A PAPER AND LOOK AT THEM AND COUNT THEM AND SWHEE THAT IS. SO THAT WAS ONE OF THE REASONS JUST PERSONALLY TO SELL ME ON THE SYSTEM AND ALSO THE SYSTEM NOT HAVING THE PERSON TELL ANOTHER PERSON A NUMBER, BECAUSE I THOUGHT WE PUT A MAN ON THE MOON IN THE 60S. WE SHOULD HAVE SOMETHING

DIFFERENT THAN THAT. >> I THINK WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO VOTE BY BIT COIN PERSONALLY OR

WHATEVER THAT BALL CHAIN. SO THAT ALSO WAS. >> THAT ALSO WAS THE RECKON SILL DWLATION AT SOME POINT IN TIME THE FORMER OFFICE HAD STOPPED DOING.

IN OTHER WORDS, THE FIRST QUESTION MANY PEOPLE IS HOW IS THAT POSSIBLE BECAUSE THIS VOTE IS STORED ON DIFFERENT MEDIA? IT'S ON THIS PIECE OF EQUIPMENT ELECTRONICALLY.

IT'S ON A CHIP. WOULDN'T YOU SEE HOW MANY VOTES YOU SEE ON THE PIECE OF EQUIPMENT AND MAKE SURE THEY ADD UP TO THE NUMBER OF VOTES ON THE CHIP BECAUSE THE CHIP IS WITH A DIFFERENT PIECE OF EQUIPMENT. IF YOU PULL THAT EQUIPMENT OUT THE CHIP -- AM I CORRECT? YOU BRING IT HAD ANOTHER ONE THERE'S A NEW CHIP. THERE'S STILL A PIECE OF MACHINE YOU'RE VOTING ON BUT YOU HAVE MULTIPLE CHIPS FOR THE SAME LOCATION.

IF YOU LOSE A CHIP YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE LESS VOTES AND THAT'S WHAT YOU COUNT THEM ON.

WHY NOT LOOK AT HOW MANY PEOPLE VOTED ON THE MACHINES JUST AS A GOOD PROCESS AND MAKE SURE THEY ADD UP WHICH THAT HAPPENED BECAUSE THAT'S SOMETHING THAT HAD BEEN DONE AWAY WITH NOT UNDERSTANDING THE UNINTENDED CONS QENSS NOT UNDERSTANDING WHAT THAT WOULD DO WHICH -- CONSEQUENCES. SOMEBODY GOES HOLD ON A SECOND. WHATEVER.

3,000 VOTES HERE WHERE ARE THE OTHER 1800 VOTES. THAT WAS ANOTHER REASON TO CHANGE EQUIPMENT AS WELL AND THE EQUIPMENT WAS OLD AND FAILING. ANOTHER THING I THOUGHT WAS IMPORTANT WAS CAMERAS IN THE ROOM SO IF THERE WAS EVER SOMETHING IN THE ROOM SOMEBODY SAID I SAW THIS SOMEWHERE ELSE. IT WASN'T THERE AND WE COULD GO BACK AND I THINK THAT IS SOMETHING THAT IS GOOD AND WE NEED TO CONTINUE TO DO. THE REFERENCE SHEETS THAT COMMISSIONER INGALSBE TALKED ABOUT IS SOMETHING THAT SHOULD BE DONE.

I THINK EVEN OUR BAILIFF TALKED ABOUT THE CHAIN OF CUSTODY THAT LAW ENFORCEMENT USES FOR EVIDENCE. I THOUGHT THAT WAS A GOOD MODEL FOR THE ACTUAL BOX.

THOUGH WE'RE STILL COUNTING ELECTRONIC VOTES I LIKE I THINK MOST CITIZENS WHEN WE PUT OUR PIECE OF PAPER IN AND WE VOTE AND NOW WE GET TO SEE IT. WE GET TO SEE OUR VOTE AND WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT THAT MACHINE DID WHAT MARKED IT BALLOT IN THE WAY THAT WE THINK THAT WE VOTED AND THEN WE PUT THAT IN A SCANNER. I THINK MOST PEOPLE UNDERSTAND HAD A IF IN THE END OF EVERYTHING IF WHAT ACTUALLY MATTERS IS THE ACTUAL BALLOT THAT IN OUR HANDS THAT HAD THE MARKS ON IT. NOW WE'RE GOING TO USE A SCANNER TO SCAN IT. WE HEARD ABOUT THAT WHEN WE SELECTED EQUIPMENT ABOUT HOW ALL THAT WORKS. AT END OF DAY THE IF SOMETHING WENT WRONG AND THINGS DIDN'T ADD UP OR IF THERE WAS EVER A PROBLEM MOST PEOPLE ASSUME WE'RE GOING TO GO BACK TO THE PAPERS AND LOOK AT WHAT THEY SAY AND COUNT THEM AND THAT'S WHY WE ALL OR PERSONALLY I THOUGHT THAT IS THE TYPE OF DWOIMENT HAVE BECAUSE WE HAD SIT HERE AND WITNESSED THIS 1800 VOTE ISSUE AND I WAS LIKE OH, LET'S HAVE SOMETHING THAT IS REAL SO WE DON'T SOMETHING TO TELL US LIKE WE NEED TO. I THINK TREATING THAT BOX LIKE IT'S EVIDENCE A VERY GOOD PRACTICE. SOMETHING THAT'S STUCK TO THE BOX THAT PEOPLE SIGN.

IT'S GOT ITS SEAL ON IT AND EVERYTHING ELSE. IT'S GOT A NUMBER ASSOCIATED WITH IT, BUT ALSO TO SOMETHING SOMEONE SIGNS WHEN THEY TAKE IT SOMEWHERE AND WHEN THEY GIVE IT TO SOMEONES, THAT THAT PERSON SIGNS AND SAYS HEY I'VE RECEIVED THIS BOX OF BALLOTS ON THIS 2C5 AT THIS TIME. IS THAT THE DODGER GAME GOING ON?

>> I COULDN'T GET IT OFF. >> SORRY, COMMISSIONER. TO ME, I THINK THAT'S WHAT NEEDS TO COME OF THIS FOR SURE IS THE SIGN-IN AND THINGS LIKE, THAT THE CHAIN OF CUSTODY IS VERY IMPORTANT FOR THE BALLOTS BECAUSE AGAIN IF MOST PEOPLE ARE LIKE ME AT THE VERY END IF SOMETHING WENT WRONG WE'RE GOING TO COUNT THE PAPER BALLOTS THAT IS WHAT IS GOING TO MATTER.

IF THEY ARE TRYING TO HONE IN ON THE MANUAL COUNT OF PRECINCTS SLASH LOCATIONS FOR PRIMARY ELECTION, WHICH WAS THE MAIN FOCUS OF THIS REQUEST OF MR. BRANNON FOCUS ON THE PROCEDURES OF THAT COUNT IN THOSE NUMBERS. SO IN THE -- THERE'S THE

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ELECTIONS ADVISORY FOR THIS ISSUE, WHICH TALKS ABOUT THIS PARTIAL MANUAL COUNT AND WHAT HAPPENS IF YOU HAVE THE OLD DRES WHICH WE USED TO HAVE AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT STANDS FOR.

>> DIRECT REPORTING. >> DIRECT REPORTING. >> EQUIPMENT.

>> WHICH WAS THE OLD WAY WE USED IT VOTE. NOW WE HAVE A DIFFERENT IT'S CALLED SOMETHING ELSE IT. DOES TALK ABOUT HOW YOU DO THE PARTIAL MANUAL COUNT BASED UPON WHAT EQUIPMENT YOU HAVE AND THERE'S AN ORDER THAT SAYS IF YOU DO VOTE CENTERS AND HAVE THIS EQUIPMENT THEN YOU IDENTIFY -- THE SECRETARY OF STATE IDENTIFIES THE ACTUAL VOTING LOCATION INSTEAD OF THE NUMBER. THE PRECINCT BOX NUMBER IF WE HAVE NOT THE VOTING CENTERS.

OUR MANUAL COUNT WOULD BE WITH BOX 21. I KNOW THAT THERE WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN ANY VOTES CAST ONCE WE GO TO VOTING CENTERS YOU CAN CAST ANYWHERE IN THE COUNTY SO SECRETARY OF STATE IDENTIFY DUNNBAR AS THE LOCATION INSTEAD OF USING THE BOX YOU'RE GOING TO VOTE IN THIS RACE. DUNNBAR HAPPENS TO BE TRYING TO FIGURE ALL OF THIS OUT THE LAST FEW DAYS. DUNNBAR IS REALLY LIKE IN 112 ONE IS VERY SMALL.

SO YOU'RE VERY LIKELY TO HAVE PRECINCTS VOTERS VOTING IN DUNNBAR WHO LIVE IN THE SAN ANTONIO AREA ALL THE VOTES CAST ARE GOING TO PRETTY GOOD SPECTRUM OF PEOPLE REPRESENTING DIFFERENT PRECINCTS SO AS I'M GOING THROUGH THIS WTS ELECTIONS OFFICE TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHAT WE DO TO REPORT THAT THE ADVISORY REFERENCES A DOCUMENT THAT WILL BE GOOD ON THE WEBSITE WHICH IS THIS HANDBOOK FOR ELECTION JUDGES AND CLERKS AND IT TALKS ABOUT THE PROCEDURES THAT THEY MUST USE AT EACH SITE AND HOW IT TRANSFERS VOTES AND HAS AN APPENDIX TALKING ABOUT COUNTING PAPER BALLOTS PROCESS AND PROCEDURES SO THIS WOULD BE AT THE TEMPLATE TO WORK ON A DOCUMENT TO SAY THIS IS HOW IT WORKS IT'S ABOUT 70 SOMETHING PAGES THIS IS WHAT THE SECRETARY OF STATE MENTIONS IN THE ELECTION ADVISORY. IS WHEN IT COMES TIME TO COUNT THE PAPER BALLOTS THEY REFER YOU TO SECTION A OF THIS HANDBOOK WHICH IS PRELIMINARY COUNTING PROCEDURE FOR HAND COUNTED PAPER BALLOTS. SO THE ELECTIONS OFFICE HAS A BOX. SO WE HAVE AT DUNNBAR ELECTION BOXES, ANOTHER IS SIGNED AND SEALED AND THEY PUT IT ON THE LIST. IT'S TIME FOR CENTRAL COUNT.

WHEN IT'S TIME FOR TO YOU DO THIS MANUAL COUNT YOU GO GET THE BOXES FOR DUNNBAR THAT HAVE THE BALLOTS. WHAT SIGNIFIES THE SBOSM FROM BAMPLT.

>> IFTSD GLOUGHT WITH ALL THE EQUIPMENT THAT'S ISSUED -- IT'S BROUGHT IN WITH ALL THE EQUIPMENT THAT'S ISSUED OUT. THE JUDGE SIGNS OFF THEY HAVE TAKEN ALL THIS EQUIPMENT IN

TOTALITY. IT'S NOT JUST THAT BALLOT BOX. >> THE SCANNER, EVERYTHING.

>> AND THEN WHEN THEY BRING IT BACK WE HAVE ISSUED THEM SEALS WHICH ARE DOCUMENTED AND THEY ARE INSTRUCTED TO PUT THOSE SEALS ON THE DEVICES. NEIGHBORING IT BACK WE DHOK MAKE SURE THOSE SEALS ARE ON IT AND THEY SIGN IT -- WE CHECK TO MAKE SURE THOSE SEALS ARE ON IT AND

THEY SIGN IT BACK OVER TO US. >> WE CAN IDENTIFY THE BOX OR BOXES AND DO A PARTIAL RECOUNT

WHICH THIS APPENDIX. >> AND SINCE YOU SAID THAT THEY TOO HAVE LABELS ON THEM.

>> MY ONLY SUGGESTION AGAIN IS THAT THEY TREAT THE BOX LIKE EVIDENCE.

WE HAVE SOMETHING THIS PEOPLE SIGN NOT JUST THE SHEET BUT A MATCHING THING THAT'S STUCK TO IT OR A STICKER SOME IN AN ENVELOPE THAT'S STUCK TO IT SOMETHING THAT PAPER SIGNATURE TWRAFLS THAT BOX ALL THE TIME AND THIS CAN BE RECONCILED WITH THE LIST THAT HAS ALL THE TYPE NUMBERS OR SEAL NUMBERS THAT YOU CAN EASILY SEE THAT THAT PERSON IS THE ONLY PERSON THAT HAD THAT BOX IN THEIR POSSESSION DURING THAT TIME. SO WE DID THAT AND WE DO THE COUNT PER THE PROCEDURES TO COUNT. HOW IS THAT IN JUST THIS MANUAL

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PARTIAL COUNT. HOW IS THAT RECORDED. AS WE ARE IN -- AS YOU ARE IN THE ROOM WITH THE PHYSICAL BALLOTS AND YOUR STAFF AND PEOPLE WATCHING.

HOW DO YOU. >> WE HAVE SEAL LOGS. THAT'S WHAT THEY REFER TO.

IT SHOWS WE HAVE COME BACK AND THE BALLOTS ARE SIGNED BACK INTO THE POSSESSION.

>> SO WHO WHEN THAT THING IS OPEN AND WE HAVE A STACK OF PIECE OF PAPER FORCE.

AND YOU ACTUALLY COUNT THE RACE. THE FIRST CANDIDATE WAS CASTANEDA.

>> RIGHT. >> AND YOU'RE LOOKP SOMEBODY IS OVER HERE AND SOMEBODY GOES AND

GOT ONE ON THIS ONE. >> THEY JUST HAND TALLY THEM. >> WE CREATED THAT DOCUMENT FOR

THEM TO SIGN OFF ON. >> SO THREE DIFFERENT PEOPLE COUNT THE BALLOTS SEPARATELY.

SO WE HAVE THREE CANDIDATES FOUR CSMTS AND RAILROAD COMMISSIONER. SO THERE'S FOURS THAT ONE IS FOR

SO AND SO AND THEY ADD THEM UP. >> SO THIS DOE IT INDIVIDUALLY. ONE DOES IT AND ANOTHER AND I HAVE 27 VOTES FOR SO AND SO, 50 FOR THAT ONE AND THE OTHER PERSON SAID MY PERSON SAYS THE

SAME THING. >> ALL OF IT GOES INTO THE LOCKED 2022 RETENTION PERIOD.

SO WHAT I DO IS THEY BRING THEM INTO ME. THEY MAKE SURE THAT THE NUMBERS ARE BALANCED AND I REPORT THOSE TO THE STATE. YOU DON'T LOG IN.

I SEE THIS WEBSITES. YOU ASK FOR INFORMATION. SO YOU'VE GOTTEN THE TALLY OF THE HAND COUNTERS. DO YOU HAVE THAT ON A PIECE OF PAPER WHILE YOU'RE ENTERING THAT

INTO THE ONE TWO, AND THREE. >> ON THE MANUAL COUNT PORTION. ON THE ELECTRONIC PORTION SO YOU ENTERED INTO THAT WEBSITE AND IT GOES TO THE SECRETARY OF STATE. P I'M SURE THERE'S SOMETHING

THAT -- WHY HAVEN'T THESE ADDED ON. >> IT TELLS US IF THERE'S

DISCREPANCY I WOULD BRING IT TO Y'ALL'S ATTENTION. >> SO THEY GET INFORMATION.

SO THAT IS THAT IS THE SPREADSHEET MR. BRANNON WAS TALKING ABOUT AND INCLUDED SOME COMMUNICATIONS WITH THE COURT. IT WAS AN EXCEL SHEET IT. HAD COLUMNS, COUNTY PRECINCT ALTERNATE PRECINCT WHICH WAS THE VOTING SYSTEM WHICH WAS PAPER AND ELECTRONIC.

DLAEKS E COUNT, DLAEKS MANUAL COUNT AND IF THERE WAS A DIFFERENCE -- ELECTION DAY E-COUNT, ELECTION DAY MANUAL COUNT. THEY ARE PRESENTING THIS THE SECRETARY OF STATE SAID KUHN BAR. IT SHOWS 121 SO A PERSON WOULD ASSUME THAT PRECINCT 121 FROM DUNNBAR WHICH IT'S NOT I'M STILL WAITING FOR THE SECRETARY OF STATE PRECINCT ONE AND IT SHOWS THAT CANDIDATE WATSON GOT 21 VOTES BUT IT SHOWS AND THAT IS

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TOTAL MAIL EARLY DLAEKS RECEIVED 28 VOTES INSIDE OF 121. SO THERE ARE CITIZENS IN 121 ONLY. 28 VOTES TOTAL ELECTION. WHEN YOU LOOK AT WHAT SECRETARY OF STATE THIS IS ONLY FOR DLAEKS HOW DOES MR. WATSON GET 43 VOTES ON DLAEKS BUT HAS A TOTAL OF 28 VOTES. WHICH INCLUDES ELECTION DAY EARLY VOTING IT'S DUNNBAR 202143 VOTES AT DUNNBAR. WOULD BE NICE IF THIS, IF FROM THE SECRETARY OF STATE WHICH IS WHAT THEY ARE REFERENCING IF THEY DO NOT PROP YOU WILL GATE ALL FIELDS OR AT LEAST TRANSFER THE DOCUMENTS PROP YOU WILL GATED. HOW MANY WON.

11, 112, 36 OR WHATEVER IT IS. THE FALLOUT THAT I'VE SEEN FROM THE SECRETARY OF STATE IS WHAT DO THEY GET UNTIL YOU GET DONE AND SOMEBODY TAKE OVER THIS DOCUMENT.

"HANDBOOK WOULD BE A GOOD THING TO HAVE UNTIL I WENT THROUGH THIS, I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT REALLY HAPPENS FROM AN ELECTION JUDGE HOW THEY TAKE THE POLL AND SETTING UP, HOW THERE ARE ENVELOPES AND WHATEVER ELSE. I THINK IT WOULD BE VERY GOOD FOR A CITIZEN THAT WANTED TO SPEND SOME TIME AND ALL THE POLICIES AND PROCEDURES. I THINK THAT WOULD BE A GOOD THING TO HAVE. I'M GETTING CLOSE, JUDGE IN AUTO DON'T WORRY.

KEEP TO THE DETAIL. YOU'RE DOING GREAT. >> SO FOR ME THE FOLLOWUP IS WHAT COMMISSIONER INGALSBE MENTIONED ABOUT THE CREATION OF SOME DOCUMENTATION, SIGN-IN SHEET, CHAIN OF CUSTODY ESPECIALLY FOR I KNOW THE BOX IS PART OF ALL THE EQUIPMENT BUT LET'S TREAT THAT BOX AGAIN THAT IT'S SOMETHING WE'RE ALL GOING TO RELY ON AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT DOESN'T MAKE SINCE AND SOMEONE CAN GO AND SAY WHO HAD THIS.

IT WOULD BE EASY TO SAY SO AND SO IS THE PERSON WHO HAD THIS BOX AND BROUGHT IT TO THE ELECTIONS OFFICE. AND THEN THE CLARIFICATION WITH THE SECRETARY OF STATE UNTIL HOW THIS MANUAL RECOUNT IS GENERATED WITH THEIR OFFICE AND, WHY WHAT THEY SENT TO BRANNON AND NOW TO US DOESN'T MAKE SENSE WITH WHAT OUR CANVASS SHOWS. I THINK WE ALL -- I THINK I UNDERSTAND WHY IT DOESN'T BUT I'D LIKE TO SEE HOW THE NUMBERS ADD UP TO USE MR. WATSON IS THE CASE HE RECEIVED 44 VOTES. AND THE -- I'M HAPPY TO PARTICIPATE LIKE I'VE BEEN DOING THIS. I WILL SAY THAT I'M EXTREMELY COGNIZANT OF BEING ON A BALLOT WITH VOTING STARTING IN BEING ACCUSED OF GETTING IN THE MIDDLE AND MEDDLING WITHIN ELECTIONS OFFICE AND EVERYTHING ELSE. I'M GOING TO REFRAIN FROM DIRECT INVOLVEMENT IN THAT.

FOR THIS POINT TO BE IN THE ELECTIONS OFFICE MESSING WARN POLICIES AND PROCEDURES IN THE MIDDLE OF AN ELECTION -- IN THE MIDDLE OF AN ELECTION I HAPPEN TO BE PART OF.

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>> THAT'S VERY SMART AND I APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS BECAUSE THEY ARE VERY DETAILED ORIENTED WHICH I'M ALWAYS HAPPY TO HEAR. I'VE ASKED -- I'VE BEEN ASKED FOR A RECESS, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO ALLOW OUR COMMISSIONER ONE OPPORTUNITY HERE TO SPEAK HIS PART BEFORE WE GO INTO A SHORT

RECESS. >> I NEED A RECESS AS WELL. MY COLLEAGUES HAVE REALLY COVERED -- I HAD A LIST OF NINE QUESTIONS AND ALL OF THEM HAVE BEEN COVERED.

I DID HAVE MORE A QUESTION FOR YOU AND THIS IS THE REASON I ASKED INITIALLY ABOUT WHAT THE DIRECT PURPOSE WILL BE. IF WE'RE LOOKING TO CREATE A POSITION, A TEMPORARY POSITION THERE, THERE ARE SOME QUESTIONS THAT GO ALONG WITH NOT JUST POSITION BUT EVERY POSITION THAT WE HAD SOME. DUE DILIGENCE THAT WE HAVE TO HAVE.

SO MY QUESTION IS, WHAT -- NUMBER ONE, WHAT KIND OF POSITION -- WHAT WOULD THIS POSITION IS FROM THE AUDITORS OFFICE AND HR AND THOSE KIND OF THINGS SURROUNDING ANY TYPE OF POSITION FROM THIS. YOU MENTIONED THAT YOU WOULDN'T WANT INTERNAL COMMISSION TO THE ELECTIONS OFFICE. SO ARE YOU LOOKING FOR SOME TYPE OF OUTSIDE CONTRACTOR? ARE YOU LOOKING FOR AN INDIVIDUAL, WHO WOULD BE AN OFFICIAL COUNTY EMPLOYEE? ALL THOSE THINGS ARE THE BASIC THINGS THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO HAVE TO CONSIDER A POSITION LIKE THIS. SO SOME CLARIFICATION ON WHAT SPECIFIC SPECIFICALLY YOU'RE

LOOKING FOR. >> SO THE THING I'M BEING ASKED TO SUPPORT AND I THE IS TOWN? HELP OVERSEE THE ELECTIONS DEPARTMENT ADMINISTRATION BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO ADD NEW TASKS. I REALLY APPRECIATE MISS ANDERSON SAYING THAT STARTING LAST WEEK SHE'S DOING SOME ITEMS. PERFECT.

THAT'S WITH A WE NEED AND I'M GRATEFUL FOR THAT RESPONSE. I UNDERSTAND THEY ARE 60 DAYS AWAY FROM ELECTION AND HOW BUSY THAT OFFICE IS, AND I FEEL LIKE IF WE ASK ANY MORE OF THEM WE'RE GOING TO CAUSE PROBLEMS. BUT YET THESE ISSUES WILL NOT GO AWAY.

SO MY THOUGHT WAS TO PUT SOMEONE IN A POSITION TO OVERSEE THE OVERALL ADMINISTRATION.

SO THAT THEY COULD LOOK AT THE SECRETARY OF STATE'S REQUEST AND SAY OH, QUESTION YOU'RE MISSING HERE. ED YOU THROUGH THIS PART. NOT TO BE HOLDING A CLUB OR PLAYING WHACK-A-MOLE, BUT BE A FACILITATOR OF PROCESS AND HELP CREATE SOME THE ASKING THAT ROCK COMPLIED TO BUT I UNDERSTAND SHE'S VERY BUSY. SO WE CAN IRON OUT THE OTHER PIECES OF HR WHAT IT WOULD COST AND ALL OF THAT PRETTY QUICKLY, AND I'M WILLING IT TABLE MY ITEM FOR NEXT WEEK SO WE CAN GET MORE DETAILS. MY FOCUS WAS TO GENERATE NO ADDITIONAL BURDEN TO THE INITIAL ELECTIONS MISSION, BUT YET PROVIDE THE COMMUNITY WHAT THEY

ARE ASKING OR THE INDIVIDUAL. HOWEVER MANY PEOPLE. >> SO HERE'S THE CONCERN THAT I HAVE IS THAT WE ARE CHARGED WITH OVERSIGHT. WE ARE CHARGED WITH OVERSIGHT IN EVERY ONE OF OUR DEPARTMENT H HEAD. IF WE HAD ISSUE WITH ANY OTHER DEPARTMENT HEAD. MISS ANDERSON IN A UNIQUE POSITION.

STATUTORILY THERE MIGHT BE SOME WIGGLE ROOM WHERE WE WITH HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY -- WITH THE ELECTIONS OFFICE I DON'T SEE WHERE WE TO HAVE THAT WIGGLE ROOM STAT FORLY.

WHETHER IT BE THROUGH THE OFFICE OF THE CLERK, WHETHER IT BE THROUGH AN ELECTIONS ADMINISTRATOR OFFICE. THOSE ARE ALL THINGS THAT ARE VERY CLEAR IN THE STATUTE.

THE CONCERN THIS I HAVE IF WE ARE TRULY LOOK AT -- IF WE'RE TRULY LOOKING AT A POSITION WHO COULD BE MORE OR LESS AND FORGIVE ME I HAVEN'T TALKED TO. IF THERE WAS SOMEONE IN THE OFFICE SPECIFICALLY ANSWERING ALL THOSE THINGS BUT AT END OF THE DAY STATUTORILY HAVE TO ANSWER TO THE ADMINISTRATOR. THAT IS JUST THE WAY IT IS. IN STATUTE LIKE I SAID IT'S VERY CLEAR. IF OUR ELECTIONS ARE LOCATED ON THE DIFFERENT OFFICE THE STATUTORILY DO THAT AND THE STATE DOES THAT SPECIFICALLY BECAUSE THEY DON'T WANT ANY

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UNDUE INFLUENCE FROM ANY ELECTED OFFICIALS IN THAT PROCESS. I TEND TO AGREE WITH THAT.

WHAT I WOULD TELL YOU I DON'T WANT IT REPLOW THIS GROUND 50 TIMES.

THE CONVERSATIONS WITH THE DAY THERE HAVE BEEN GOOD POINTS BROUGHT UP THAT WE HAVEN'T DISCUSSED THAT ARE VERY BALLOT POINTS. I APPRECIATE MR. BRANNON AND SOME OF THE QUESTIONS THAT HE HAD. I WOULD BE SUPPORTIVE PRACHES LOOKING AT SOME TYPE OF COMPLIANCE POSITION. BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY -- PERHAPS -- AT END OF THE DAY WE HAVE TO FOLLOW THE STATUTES. ALITY END OF THE DAY MRS. ANDERSON ASKED FOR ADDITIONAL HELP AND WE DIDN'T PROVIDE IT IN THE BUDGET.

IF WE WERE TO LOOK AT THIS AND THIS IS JUST MY VIEW, WE NEED ADDITIONAL INFORMATION AS TO -- WE NEED TO FLESH IT OUT. JUDGE, IF YOU'RE LOOKING FOR A SPECIFIC POSITION, GIVE US WHAT THE POSITION IS. GIVE US WHAT IT PAYS. GIVE US THE BASICS REQUIRED IF THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT CAME IN AND ASKED FOR THE TRANSPORTATION GIVE US THAT.

TALK WITH THAT DEPARTMENT HEAD AND SAY LOOK, YEAH, THIS IS A NOOTION WE COULD USE OR MAYBE ALREADY HAVE -- POSITION THAT WE COULD USE OR MAYBE ALREADY HAVE SOMEBODY IN THE DEPARTMENT W AND IF SOMETHING IS MISSED THEN SOMEBODY IS ON THE PAPERED THEY ARE ENSURING THOSE STEPS COULD GET DONE. AT THE END DAY OF THE IT ACCOMPLISHES THE GOAL SOMEONE IS TALKING ABOUT. BUT TALKING ABOUT HIRING SOMEONE OUTSIDE THE PROCESS I THINK IN OUR AGAIN, STATUTORILY IN THE STATE OF TEXAS THEY HAVE A REAL CONCERN WITH LESS THAN 60 DAYS OUT FROM ELECTION GOING OUT AND HIRING SOMEBODY OUT FOR A JOB THAT HASN'T BEEN CREATED YET AND NOT KNOWING ANYTHING ABOUT WHO THAT PERSON MIGHT BE ARE WHAT THEIR ROLE WOULD BE IN A VERY CLEAR SENSE. IT'S LIKE -- I LIVE ON A RANCH. ONE OF THE THINGS IS THAT WE HAD A GUY THAT WORKED FOR US FOR YEARS. WE CALLED HIM WRENCH THROWER.

HE WORKED ON A TRACTOR AND COULDN'T FIGURE OUT WHAT WAS WRON IT.

IT'S RUNNING. HE WOULD TURN AROUND AND THROW A WRENCH IN THE ENGINE AND SAY I HOPE TO WORKS. IT WAS A JOKE BUT AT END OF DAY THE I DON'T WANT TO BE A WRENCH THROWER. I WANT TO CONTINUE TO WORK ON IT TO FINE-TUNE IT BECAUSE IT'S RUNNING A WHOLE LOT BETTER THAN DOES AT LEAST BEFORE I GOT HERE IN 2016 SOME OF THE STEPS AS A COURT WE'VE TAKEN WITH THE NEW ELECTIONS WITH THE BALLOT PROCEDURES THAT WE HAVE I THINK THAT WE'VE REALLY PUT THINGS IN PLACE THAT R TRULY THAT BEING THE CASE I CAN SEE WHERE GIVING THOSE DUTIES TO SOMEONE IN MISS ANDERSON'S OFFICE TO HAVE THOSE CHECKS IT MAKE SURE THAT THE FORMS AND MY COLLEAGUE COMMISSIONER SHELL ARE DISCUSSING HAS.

THAT COULD BE BENEFICIAL. BUT I THINK WE ALSO HAVE TO UNDERSTAND THAT WHENEVER MISS ANDERSON ASKS FOR THAT EXTRA HELP LIKE SHE DID IN THE BUDGET, MAYBE WE CAN STEP UP HER WITH SOME. THAT'S MY TWO CENTS WORTH. Y'ALL MAY NOT AGREE WITH THAT.

I KNOW WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A LONGER DISCUSSION BUT I NEED A BEST ROOM BREAK AS WELL.

>> JUST ASRY REMIND -- RESTROOM. JUST A REMINDER ON THE BUDGET PIECE THE BUDGET IS A DOCUMENT THE FIVE OF US WORK ON, APPROVAL APPROVE AND SUGGEST. THAT'S ALSO A PLACE COMMISSIONER WHERE YOU CAN HAPPILY

>> AND WE ARE BACK FROM A SHORT RECESSION AND WE HAVE HAD LENGTHY CONVERSATIONS ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 2 2. I APPRECIATE MISS ANDERSON. I APPRECIATE MR. BRANNON AND EVERYONE THAT'S TAKEN TIME ON THIS EFFORT AND IT SEEMS AS THOUGH IT HAS BEEN GOOD CONVERSATIONS AND I'M VERYTIVE OF EVERYONE'S DETAIL, AND -- VERY APPRECIATIVE.

THE 22ND AT 1:00 P.M. IS A FINAL ADOPTION OF OUR BUDGET PROCESS. AND SO WHAT I THINK WE CAN DO HERE IS CREATE A POSITION. WE CAN IRON OUT THE DETAILS. I CAN WORK DIRECTLY WITH HR OR THE AUDITOR'S OFFICE, AND IRON OUT THE DETAILS OF WHAT WAS THE DESCRIPTION YOU GAVE, COMMISSIONER SMITH? THE JOB TITLE? OVERSIGHT SOMETHING.

>> COMPLIANCE. >> THANK YOU, DR. CARDENAS. A COMPLIANCE COMPONENT OUT OF THAT SPACE SOMEHOW TO SATISFY ALL OF THIS. SO THAT HERE ON THE LAST TWO MONTHS OF THE ELECTION WE'RE NOT TRYING TO CREATE ADDITIONAL WORK FOR MISS ANDERSON, WHO IS

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ALREADY, I FEEL, GOING TO BE EXCESSIVELY BURDENED WITH EVERYTHING GOING ON ALREADY, TRUTHFULLY SPEAKING. SO I THINK THAT WE HAVE THAT IDEA AND THE OPPORTUNITY, SO I'M HOPING MISS ANDERSON CAN HELP US CRAFT THAT POSITION AND HE DETAILS OF IT WITH THE AUDITOR AND -- THE DETAILS OF IT WITH THE AUDITOR AND THE HR DEPARTMENT OF A COMPLIANCE POSITION OUT OF, AT THIS MOMENT IN TIME, OUT OF THAT OFFICE TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYTHING THE STATE IS ASKING OF US AND ALL THE PIECE THAT'S WE'RE LOOKING FOR AND ALL THE ITEMS THAT WE NEED ARTICULATED AND COMMUNICATED AND SHARE WITH THE PUBLIC ARE READILY AVAILABLE AND

EASILY ACCESSIBLE. >> WOULD IT BE A TEMPORARY POSITION?

LIKE STATED HERE. >> I WOULD LIKE -- I'M GOING TO NEED SOME TIME TO FIGURE OUT

EXACTLY WHAT I WOULD SUPPORT. >> THIS IS GOING TO BE MOVED ONTO THE 22ND BUDGET SO WE'LL TIME, SO WE'LL IRON OUT THOSE DETAILS BETWEEN NOW AND THEN BUT MY HOPE IS ON THE 22ND BY 1:00 P.M. WE CREATE THAT OPPORTUNITY BECAUSE ALL FIVE OF US HAVE JUST FOR THE VIEWING PUBLIC, ALL FIVE OF US HAVE THE ABILITY TO RECOMMENDED THINGS ON THE BUDGET TWEAKS AT THIS POINT.

ON THE 22ND. >> IT WOULD HAVE TO FIT INTO OUR MAXIMUM TAX RATE WE'VE ALREADY

APPROVED. >> YES, EXACTLY. SO WE HAD THAT OPPORTUNITY.

I BELIEVE THEY HAD A VERY GOOD CONVERSATION, AND I THINK THAT EVERYONE INVOLVED FOR THAT CONVERSATION, AND AT THIS POINT IN TIME I'M GOING TO MOVE ON AND SAY THAT WE'LL ADDRESS THIS ON

THE 22ND ON THE BUDGET. SO IF YOU WILL PLEASE -- >> JUDGE IF YOU DO THAT, LET ME JUST STHAUGHT IF WE'RE DOING IT IN THE BUDGET WORKSHOP -- SUGGEST -- WE JUST NEED TO

DISCUSS IT. >> WE'LL DISCUSS IT SPECIFICALLY IN THE BUDGET SHOP SPACE AND NO MORE AGENDA ITEM ON THIS FRONT AGREED. PLEASE OPEN AGENDA ITEMS 2 --

[Items 2 - 6]

TWO THROUGH SIX. >> TWO, APPROVED PAYMENTS OF COUNTY INVOICES.

THREE, APPROVE THE PAYMENT OF THE UNITED HEALTH CARE CLAIMS. FOUR, AUTHORIZE ON-SITE SEWAGE FACILITY FOR THE APARTMENT BUILDING AND THREE BEDROOM CABIN LOCATED AT 956 HART LANE, DRIPPING SPRINGS, TEXAS. FIVE, AUTHORIZE BUILDING MAINTENANCE TO UTILIZE DONATED FUNDS FOR THE REMODEL OF THE HAYS COUNTY CHILD PROTECTIVE BOARD RAINBOW ROOM LOCATED ON BROADWAY STREET IN SAN MARCOS AND AMEND THE BUDGET ACCORDINGLY.

SIX IMPROVE UTILITY PERMITS. >> MOTION. ANY COMMENTS.

PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. >> COMMISSIONER JONES. >> YES COMMISSIONER SMITH.

>> YES. >> COMMISSION INGALSBE. >> COMMISSIONER SHELL.

[7. Authorize the County Judge to execute a $59,589.82 Proposal with The Move Team for moving services for various Sheriff, Dispatch and Emergency Services offices relocating to the new Public Safety Building and amend the budget accordingly. INGALSBE/CUTLER]

>> JUDGE BECERRA. >> YES, PLEASE OPEN NUMBER SEVEN.

>> SEVEN, AUTHORIZE THE COUNTY JUDGE TO EXECUTE A 59,500 -- $59,589.82 PROPOSAL WITH THE MOVE TEAM FOR MOVING SURFACES FOR VARIOUS SHERIFF, DISPATCH, EMERGENCY SERVICES OFFICES, RELOCATING TO THE NEW PUBLIC SAFETY BUILDING AND AMEND THE BUDGET ACCORDINGLY.

>> SO MOVED. >> SECOND. >> MOTION AND A SECOND.

BEFORE WE GO ON TO THE VOTE, I HAVE ONE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK, MR. DAN LYON.

>> THANK YOU, JUDGE BECERRA AND COMMISSIONERS. I LOOKED ON THE BACK OF THERE.

I DIDN'T SEE ANY ITEMIZATION. I, YOU KNOW, THIS IS AN UNEVEN NUMBER.

$59,589.28. SO IT LOOKS LIKE IT SHOULD HAVE ITEMIZATION BECAUSE THEY HAVE GOT IT DOWN TO THE PENNY HERE AND I DIDN'T SEE THAT. MAYBE I MISSED IT.

ANOTHER QUESTION IS, ARE THESE PEOPLE AUTHORIZED TO MOVE AND I DON'T KNOW IF THEY STILL HAVE FILING CABINETS OR THINGS LIKE THAT. BUT IF THEY DO, TO MOVE FILING CABINETS AND COMPUTERS WITH VARIOUS INFORMATION ON THEM? OR SHOULDN'T THAT BE DONE BY THE YOU KNOW, THE VARIOUS DEPARTMENTS SO THAT THERE'S NO RISK OF PERSONAL INFORMATION BEING EXTRACTED FROM THESE THINGS. ALSO I'M VERY CONCERNED ABOUT ALMOST $60,000 BEING SPENT ON MOVING THESE ITEMS. FOR ONE THING, A LOT OF THE PEOPLE WORKING THESE DEPARTMENTS LIKE I JUST SAID, SHOULD BE MOVING A LOT OF THEIR OWN THINGS INTO THE NEW BUILDING. AND IT JUST SEEMS EXCESSIVE TO ME.

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AND DO THEY HAVE ANY PARTICULAR EXPERTISE THAT JUST THE COMMON PERSON WOULD NOT HAVE? OR, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE THAT ARE WORKING IN DEPARTMENT THAT'S THEY DON'T HAVE THE EXPERTISE TO MOVE ALL THESE THINGS. AND I DON'T REALLY KNOW WHAT THEY HAVE TO MOVE.

THEY MAY HAVE VERY HEAVY THINGS THAT WE DO NEED SOME HELP ON. I'M JUST A LITTLE DUBIOUS OF SPENDING ALMOST $60,000 FOR A MOVE. WE SPENT $61,000 OR ALMOST $62,000 ON FURNITURE FOR THE NEW JAIL, AND YET WE'VE GOT MORE FURNITURE GOING ON.

SO, THAT'S JUST THE QUESTION I HAVE. >> THANK YOU, SIR.

COMMISSIONER INGALSBE, WE HAVE FOLKS FROM THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE HERE.

IF YOU THINK WE SHOULD BRING THEM UP TO ANSWER SOME PERSPECTIVES?

>> WELL IF THEY HAVE SOME ADDITIONAL INFORMATION, JUDGE, I APOLOGIZE THAT THERE'S NOT ANY KIND OF AN ITEMIZED LIST. THE MOVE WILL BE DONE IN CONJUNCTION PERSONNEL ALSO.

REAL SIMILAR TO WHAT YOU'VE DONE AND HAVE A CAPACITY TO MOVE AROUND THIS TIME OVER SO THEY DO NEED SOME HELP. AND I DON'T KNOW, TAMMY, DID YOU GET INVOLVED WITH THIS AT ALL?

OR NO? OK. >> SO WE HAVE A SHERIFF'S OFFICE. ARE YOU IN POSITION TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM?

SO LET ME ASK THE AUDITOR THIS QUESTION. >>

[8. Authorize the Hays County Office of General Counsel to submit a letter of termination to First Response Solutions, LLC pursuant to the Agreement of Services between Hays County and First Response Solutions, LLC in relation to the management of hazardous material. SHELL/MIKE JONES]

[9. Authorize the County Judge to execute Interlocal Cooperation Agreements between Hays County and Burnet County for Jail Services and between Hays County and Caldwell County for Jail Services related to the housing and care of Hays County inmates. JONES/CUTLER]

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>> WE HAVE ONE PERSON SIGNED UP TO SPEAK. MR. JAN LYON.

SO MY THANK YOU AGAIN, JUDGE. I SEE THAT WE ARE GOING TO HAVE A INTERLOCAL COOPERATION AGREEMENT BETWEEN HAYS COUNTY AND CALDWELL COUNTY FOR JAIL SERVICES.

WE HAVE GONE THROUGH THIS ABOUT HOW I AM AGHAST YOU KNOW, OUTSOURCING PRISONERS AND ALL OF A SUDDEN YOU SAY YOU HAVE DONE A THOROUG STUDY ON THIS AND BURNET COUNTY IS A LONG WAY FROM HERE AND IT COSTS US MONEY TO TRANSFER THESE PRISONERS BACK AND FORTH AND I PERSONALLY DON'T KNOW ARE THESE MINOR OFFENDERS OR MURDERERS AND RAPISTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT? IF YOU HAVE THAT TYPE OF PRISONER, THAT GIVES THEM MORE CHANCE TO PLOT HIS ESCAPE AND IT'S PROBABLY NOT A REAL GOOD IDEA TO BE OUTSOURCING THOSE TYPES OF PEOPLE BECAUSE WE HAVE THE PROBLEM OF PERHAPS TRYING TO ASSAULT ONE OF OUR OFFICERS. ALSO, COMMISSIONER SMITH SAID WE PAY ABOUT $70 A DAY TO OUTSOURCE THESE PRISONERS AND THUS CHEAPER THAT WE CAN DO IT HERE I JUST WANT TO KNOW WHY WE CAN'T DO IT CHEAPER AND HOW'S THESE INMATES CHEAPER THAN $70 A DAY. I KNOW WE GOT A PRETTY BAD DEAL ON THE JAIL.

THAT'S MY OPINION. APPARENTLY THERE IS A SIMILAR SIZE JAIL FOR A LOT LESS MONEY.

ARE WE JUST NOT EFFICIENT IN THIS PROCESS? I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW WE CAN TRANSPORT THEM SEVERAL COUNTIES AWAY AND IS CHEAPER FOR US. IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE TO ME.

BUT ANYWAY. THOSE ARE JUST A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS I HAD.HANK YOU.

SPENT WITH THIS AGENDA ITEM BELONGS TO ã >> THIS IS A RENEWAL OF OUR CONTRACT. CALDWELL HAS RENEWED THE SAME WAY AND ãGOING UP FIVE DOLLARS

A DAY FROM 50, 255. >> I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A, TO SOME OF THE QUESTIONS THAT DAN HAD VERY SPECIFICALLY WITH THESE PRISONERS THE RATE IN ONE COUNTY IS 55 A DAY AND 62 A DAY SO AVERAGE WOULD BE 58 AND A HALF FOR THE REASON IS CHEAPER FOR THEM THAN IT IS FOR US, IT'S PRETTY SIMPLE. THEY HAVE LARGE FACILITIES THAT ARE GOING UNUSED AND AT THE FIXED COST THEY DON'T CHANGE BUT SOME OF THE FIXED COSTS THEY DON'T CHANGE IF YOU HAVE 10 PEOPLE OR 100 PEOPLE. P

>> COMMISSIONER, TIME IS UP. JUST KIDDING.

>> AT THE END OF THE DAY THEY HAVE TO PROVIDE THOSE SERVICES HAVE TO PROVIDE A CERTAIN NUMBER AND FOR THEM IF THEY HAVE I WILL USE AN EXAMPLE OF OFFICERS PER INMATE IF THEY HAVE DIRECT SUPERVISION 48. 42 PER INMATE IF THEY CAN OFFSET THE COST OF THAT OFFICER BY CHARGING A COUNTY LIKE US $50 A DAY WHENEVER THEY HAVE MAY BE ONLY 10 PEOPLE OR 15 PEOPLE IT OFFSETS THE COST OF THE ENTIRE FACILITY SO FOR THEM THERE'S PURPOSE TO THESE OUTSOURCING CONTRACTS THAT MAKES SENSE. FOR US WE HAVE TO EAT THE COSTS OURSELVES THOUGH ESPECIALLY WHEN WE ARE AT CAPACITY WE ARE OPERATING PRETTY MUCH AS EFFICIENTLY AS WE CAN BUT WHEN I GO TO THE NEW FACILITY THOSE ARE THINGS THAT WILL OFFSET SOME MORE OF OUR COSTS BUT I WOULD JUST VENTURE TO SAY AND I KNOW THAT MY COLLEAGUES KNOW THIS. WHENEVER THE FACILITIES ARE COMPLETELY OPEN AND WE BRING THE PRISONERS BACK AND EVEN IF WE HALF TO OUTSOURCE A HANDFUL AFTER THAT WE ARE NOT GOING TO SAY. I THINK THERE IS A CONCEPT WE'RE GOING TO SAVE MONEY BY HAVING ALL THOSE PRISONERS BUT IT'S STILL GOING TO COST MORE TO HOUSES PRISONERS AND SO THE TAXPAYERS ARE NOT GOING TO SEE A BREAK BREAK IN FUNDING IF ANYTHING WE WILL BE PAYING MORE BECAUSE WE NEED TO PAY MORE FOR FOOD AND MORE FOR THE OTHER FIXED COSTS OUT THERE SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE THERE IS A REALIZATION OF THAT AND I DEFINITELY SUPPORT THIS

CONTRACT. >> SO MUCH TO SAY.

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PLEASE CALL THE ROLE. >> COMMISSIONER SHALL.

YES COMMISSIONER SMITH.ES. COMMISSIONER JONES. YES.

COMMISSIONER INGALLS B. JUDGE BECERRA.

>> AS THE CAMERA ZOOMS IN TO MR. SMITH THERE SOMETHING IN THE BACK CORNER BEHIND IN THE DOESN'T LOOK VERY NICE. CAN YOU OPEN AGENDA ITEM, WHICH ARE BEYOND?

>> 10. >> 10.

[10. Authorize Countywide Operations to renew the annual Commercial General Liability and Excess Liability Insurance related to the Gay Ruby Dahlstrom Nature Preserve in the amount of $7,667.11. JONES/T.CRUMLEY]

AUTHORIZE COUNTYWIDE OPERATIONS TO RENEW THE ANNUAL COMMERCIAL GENERAL LIABILITY AND EXCESS LIABILITY INSURANCE RELATED TO THE GAY RUBY DAHLSTROM NATURE PRESERVE IN THE AMOUNT OF $7667.11. WE HAVE ONE PERSON SIGNED UP TO SPEAK.R. DAN LYON.

THANK YOU FOR DOING THAT. I WANT OUR COMMISSIONERS TO LOOK THE BEST THEY CAN AND THE FEWER DISTRACTIONS BEHIND THEM, THE BETTER. > THANK YOU JUDGE BECERRA AND COMMISSIONERS. THIS REALLY CONCERNS FOR ME, THIS CONCERNS MOSTLY THE PARTS THAT WE ARE PROPOSING TO VOTE ON IN NOVEMBER AND WHAT I HAVE NOTICED WITH THIS I HAVE NOTHING AGAINST GAY RUBY DAHLSTROM NATURE PRESERVE BUT WHAT I HAVE NOTICED WITH THEM, THEY ARE STEADILY ADDING EXPENSES AS WE GO ALONG. THEY ARE WITH THE KAWASAKI.

DISBURSEMENTS A COUPLE WEEKS AGO THAT ONE OF THE NEW KAWASAKI ãNEEDED TO HAVE A CLUTCH CHANGE. THAT'S BAD MANUFACTURING OR POOR USAGE OF THE VEHICLE BUT WHAT I AM BASICALLY SAYING, ALL OF THESE EXPENSES ARE ADDING UP.

I $9000 AIR-CONDITIONER A VISITOR CENTER AND NOW WE HAVE LIABILITY INSURANCE.

WHAT MY QUESTION IS 16 PROPERTIES WE WILL BE VOTING ON IN MAY, ARE WE GOING TO ADD THESE SAME CONTINUING EXPENSES TO MOUNT AND IS THAT GOING TO BE MADE CLEAR WHEN YOU SEND OUT YOUR BROCHURES TO PEOPLE? THAT THIS IS AN ONGOING THING IN MY OPINION I WOULD CALL IT MONEY BUT YOU MIGHT CALL IT MAINTENANCE AND OPERATIONS. FRANKLY.

WE ARE LOOKING AT A $75 MILLIO . IS THAT JUST FOR THE PURCHASE OF THOSE PROPERTIES OR IS THAT FOR THE PURCHASE AND MAINTENANCE OF THOSE PROPERTIES AND HAYES COUNTY NATURE CONSERVATIVE SEE TALKED ABOUT HUNDRED 75 MILLION THEY EVENTUALLY WILL SPEND ON PROPERTY SO ANYWAY. AM NOT NECESSARILY AGAINST LIABILITY INSURANCE IS PROBABLY A GOOD IDEA. WE PROBABLY NEED IT IN CASE SOMEONE GETS BITTEN BY A RATTLESNAKE OR GETS RUN OVER BY A KAWASAKI VEHICLE BUT I JUST WANT TO KNOW, ARE WE GOING TO HAVE TO DO THAT ON MOST, IF NOT ALL OF THESE NEW PROPERTIES THAT IF WE VOTE FOR THAT WE WILL ACQUIRE THAT'S BASICALLY MY QUESTION.

>> COMMISSIONER? >> I CAN ONLY ANSWER FOR WHAT WE ARE DOING AT DAHLSTROM AND THIS IS SOMETHING WE ARE DOING WITH OUR CONTRACT AND I IMAGINE WITHIN A PROPERTIES THAT THEY OPERATETHAT HAVE PUBLIC ACCESS , WILL THEY HAVE TO HAVE PUBLIC

INSURANCE ON THOSE? >> WHAT ABOUT THE INSURANCE WE USE FOR OUR VEHICLES? FOR EXAMPLE. CAN YOU GUYS, INSURANCE IS THROUGH CHECK.

IS THERE A WAY TO HAVE ANY OF THIS BE USED THAT WAY AND FIND A SAVINGS?

>> THIS IS A SEPARATE POLICY THAT IS CARRIED ON BEHALF OF THE FAMILY THIS IS A LEASE OF PROPERTY A FEE PROPERTY IS STILL ON BY THE DAHLSTROM FAMILY SO THIS IS PART OF THE TERMS AND CONDITIONS ãWOULD NOT NAME THEM AS AN ADDITIONAL INSURED IT WOULD BE SOLELY BY

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THE COUNTY AND NOT FOR 1/3 PARTY. THERE YOU GO.

>> TO CLARIFY ãTHAT DAHLSTROM WAS NOT.

>> THANK YOU I APPRECIATE THAT. IS THERE ANOTHER COMMENTS, PLEASE CALL THE ROLE.

[Items 11 - 13]

>> COMMISSIONER INGALLS B. YES. COMMISSIONER SHALL.ES. COMMISSIONER JONES PRAYED YES.

COMMISSIONER SMITH. YES. JUDGE BECERRA.

YES. PLEASE OPEN 1112 AND 13.

>> 11 AUTHORIZE PAYMENT ENTERPRISE FM TRUST FOR THE CONSTABLE PRECINCT 3 OFFICE RELATED TO VEHICLE EQUIPMENT AND INSTALLATION IN WHICH NO PURCHASE ORDER WAS ISSUED AS REQUIRED PER COUNTY PURCHASING POLICY 12. RATIFY THE EXECUTION OF EQUIPMENT RENTAL AGREEMENT WITH CLIFFORD POWER SYSTEMS FOR THE JUVENILE DETENTION CENTER RELATED TO A 300 KVA GENERATOR RENTAL AND AMEND THE BUDGET ACCORDINGLY.3 APPROVED JOINT ELECTION AGREEMENTS FOR JURISDICTIONS CONTRACTING WITH HAYES COUNTY ELECTIONS FOR THE NOVEMBER 3, 2020 GENERAL ELECTION.

>> SO MOVED. SECOND. COMMISSIONER, THE EQUIPMENT ON

ITEM NUMBER 11. >> YES NUMBER 11 IS.

GET EVERYTHING IN ORDER. >> I BELIEVE IT WAS FOR A LAW

ENFORCEMENT VEHICLE. >> PLEASE CALL THE ROLE.

>> I WANT TO MENTION ONE THING BECAUSE I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT YOU MENTIONED EARLIER ABOUT NOT PUTTING IN THE EXTRA BURDEN ON OUR ãOFFICE AND THE COUNTY OF THE STATE THERE'S 14 DIFFERENT JURISDICTIONS THAT WE ARE RESPONSIBLEFOR . THIS WOULD MAKE A GOOD REMINDER. PLEASE CALL THE ROLE.

[14. Discussion and possible to approve the selection of Garver Engineering for drainage, roadway alignment, and environmental studies and recommendations at Sentinel Peak Preserve and authorize staff and counsel to negotiate a contract. SHELL/BORCHERDING]

>> COMMISSIONER SMITH PRAYED YES. COMMISSIONER JONES PRAYED YES.

COMMISSIONER INGALLS B. YES. COMMISSIONER SHALL.UDGE BECERRA.

YES. PLEASE OPEN NUMBER 14. 14.

DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION. TO APPROVE THE SELECTION OF GARBER ENGINEERING FOR DRAINAGE ROADWAY ALIGNMENT AND ENVIRONMENTAL STUDIES AND RECOMMENDATIONS AT SENTINEL PEAK PRESERVE AND AUTHORIZE STAFF AND COUNSEL TO NEGOTIATE A CONTRACT.

>> SO MOVED FOR A SECOND. >> THIS ITEM IS REGARD TO THE RESERVE FORMERLY KNOWN AS ãWE WOULD LIKE TO GET OUT THERE IN START INVESTIGATE WHAT WOULD BE A PUBLIC ROAD THROUGH THE REMAINDER OF THAT BRANCH AND WE WOULD LIKE TO GET STARTED

>> WELL SAID. QUESTIONS? PLEASE CALL THE ROLE.

COMMISSIONER JONES YES. COMMISSIONER INGALSBY YES. COMMISSIONER SMITH YES.

[15. Discussion and possible action to accept fiscal surety for the construction of street and drainage improvements in the amount of $1,028,339.75 for Trails at Windy Hill, Phase Two Subdivision (Bond # 41420699). JONES/BORCHERDING]

COMMISSIONER SCHELL YES. JUDGE BECERRA PRAYED YES.

>> 15 DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE AMOUNT OF $1,028,339.75 PER TRAILS AT WINDY HILL, PHASE 2 SUBDIVISION BOND NUMBER 41420699.

>> SO MOVED. >> WE HAVE STAFF APPROVAL FOR THE SPIRIT IS JUST ACCEPTING THE DRAINAGEPOPULACE.

[16. Discussion and possible action to award contract for IFB 2020-B14 Lime Kiln Road Improvements to Capital Excavation, Co. SMITH/SHELL/BORCHERDING]

>> ANY QUESTIONS? PLEASE CALL THE ROLE. COMMISSIONER SCHELL YES.

COMMISSIONER SMITH YES. COMMISSIONER JONES YES. COMMISSIONER INGALSBY.

JUDGE BECERRA PRAY >> YES. 16 DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION TO AWARD CONTRACT FOR IFB 2020 B 14 TO CAPITAL EXCAVATION COMPANY.

>> SO MOVED. >> ANY COMMENTS?

>> I AM EXCITED SOME OF THIS WAS COMPETITIVELY BID I KNOW RESIDENTS ARE EXCITED THEY ARE EXCITED TO GET IT STARTED AND HAVE IT COMPLETED I KNOW THAT COMMISSIONER SCHELL SHARES MY

ENTHUSIASM. >> THE BIDS THAT WE RECEIVE SHOWS IT WAS VERY COMPETITIVE AND WE ARE SEEING THAT SO THAT'S A GOOD SIGN MOVING

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FORWARD IN THIS PROJECT I KNOW THERE WAS A QUESTION IF THERE WOULD BE GROUNDBREAKING IDEAS IF WE HAD IDEAS TO BE OUT THERE SO THAT'S MY OPINION. WE ARE READY TO GO.

>> THIS IS RIGHT BY MY HOUSE. >> THIS CAME IN UNDER WHAT WE ANTICIPATED SOMETIMES YOU WORRY ABOUT A LOW BID BUT I AM PRETTY CONFIDENT THEY HAVE DONE A GOOD WORK AND IF YOU REMEMBER THIS WAS A BOND PROJECT AND GOT PUT ON THE DEFERRED LIST BUT WE ARE STILL PUSHING FORWARD TO GETTING IT WHEN THOSE FUNDS BECOME AVAILABLE TO BE REIMBURSED EVEN THOUGH WE ARE DOING IT OUT OF BONDS AT THIS POINT.

>> THEY HAVE WORKED ON PROJECTS IN THAT AREA AS WELL. LIKE A RIVER BRIDGE AND ãI THINK WAS A VERY SUCCESSFUL PROJECT.

>> PLEASE CALL THE ROLE. COMMISSIONER SMITH YES. COMMISIONER INGALSBE YES.

[17. Discussion and possible action to consider a continuation of the Local Disaster Declaration originally proclaimed by the County Judge on or about March 15, 2020, continued by resolution of Commissioners Court on March 16, 2020 and extended by the Court on July 14, 2020. BECERRA]

COMMISSIONER JONES YES. COMMISSIONER SCHELL YES. JUDGE BECERRA YES.

PLEASE OPEN 17. ASSUMING DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION WITH CONTINUATION OF THE LOCAL DISASTER DECLARATION ORIGINALLY PROCLAIMED BY THE COUNTY JUDGE ON OR ABOUT MARCH 15, 2020 CONTINUED BY RESOLUTION OF COMMISSIONER COURT MARCH 16, 2020 EXTENDED

BY THE COURT JULY 14, 2020. >> SO MOVED.

WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. COMMENTS, QUESTIONS?

>> IS A SOMETHING WAGE TO DO LOCAL. DOES THE GOVERNOR'S DECLARATION COVER OR IS THIS SOMETHING WE NEED TO DO IN ADDITION TO THAT BECAUSE WE ARE NOT GOING TO

SUPERSEDE IT? >> I WILL HAND IT OVER TO MR. KENNEDY BUT MY INTENT HAS BEEN ON THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR ME TO CHIME IN.HE OPPORTUNITY TO BE CONSISTENCE WITH ALL THE DIFFERENT CITIES THAT ARE WITHIN THE SANDBOX AND OUR GOAL HAS ALSO BEEN TO BE AS CONSISTENT AS I CAN WHENEVER POSSIBLE AND THE GOVERNOR PUTS OUT AN ORDER THE COVERS HAYES COUNTY. I DO EVERYTHING I CAN.

TO HAVE EXTENSIVE COVERAGE WITH THE GENERAL COUNSEL TO HELP ME ARTICULATE THE SPIRIT OF THE EFFORT IN STATEMENT AND I TRY HARD NOT TO HAVE A KALEIDOSCOPE OF ãTHAT THE COMMUNITY CAN'T KEEP UP WITH SO FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND THIS IS A STATEWIDE ORDER AND I DON'T PLAN ON IT BUT I DON'T PLAN ON CREATING ADDITIONAL ORDERS. MR. KENNEDY, OVER TO YOU.

>> THIS IS NOT AN ORDER UNDER THE DECLARATION THIS IS AN EXTENSION OF THE DECLARATION SO THIS IS MORE FOR QUALIFICATION OF FEDERAL FUNDING THAT MIGHT FLOW TO

>> TAKING FEDERAL MONEY NEVER HELPS US AND ACTUALLY COMPLICATES IT BACK AFTER THE FLOODS FOR SURE BUT I THINK THIS IS ONE OF THOSE THINGS WHERE WE EXPECT TO RECEIVE REIMBURSEMENT OR FUNDING FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT FOR COVID RELATED ISSUES.

>> I DON'T WANT TO PUT ANY REGULATION OR CONFUSIONS OF THE LOCAL ORDERS OF THE HAYES COUNTY JUDGE HAS EXPIRED AND WE ARE OPERATING UNDER THE GOVERNOR'S ORDER RIGHT NOW AND THAT'S BEEN ON PURPOSE. I HAVE TRIED MY VERY BEST WHEN WE ARE ASKING FOR COUNTY HELP FOR NOT LOSING TEXAS EDUCATION AGENCY MONEY IF THEY OPEN I HAVE FOUR DIFFERENT SCHOOL DISTRICTS BUT NONE OF THEM WANTED TO LOSE ANY MONEY BUT THE STATE EVOLVED INTO A DIFFERENT ROADMAP BUT I TRY MY VERY BEST TO BE AS USER-FRIENDLY TO THE COMMUNITY AS POSSIBLE. I KNOW THAT ALL OF US FEEL BETTER AS THINGS INCHED TOWARDS NORMAL. BUT IF WE HAVE SPIKES WE HAVE TO GO BACKWARDS AND THAT WILL

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BE PAINFUL TO EVERYONE INVOLVED. SO THIS DISASTER DECLARATION EXTENSION WILL BE TO HELP WITH REIMBURSEMENTS. THANK YOU MR. KENNEDY FOR THAT ARTICULATION. SOON IF THERE IS A RESOLUTION ATTACHED THE AGENDA ITEM PROPOSING TO EXTEND FOR 91 DAYS TO MID DECEMBER AND THEN WE CAN REASSESS AND OBVIOUSLY THE COURT WANTED A DIFFERENT TIMELINE I JUST FIGURED THAT WAS PROBABLY CONSIDERING THE

CURRENT CIRCUMSTANCES. >> WELL PLANNED OUT.

ANY OTHER COMMENTS? >> DO YOU KNOW WHAT OTHER COMMUNITIES WITHIN OUR ãI KNOW THAT SOME HAVE BEEN IN THEIR LOCAL DISASTER DECLARATION.

DO YOU KNOW THE COMMUNITIES HERE, HOW MANY HAVE AND HAVE ATTENDED IF THERE ARE ANY?

JUDGE, DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA? >> SOME OF THEM HAVE NOT

EXTENDED THAT. >> IT MIGHT BE TIED TO THEIR COVID EFFORTS, JUST SPECULATION BECAUSE WE ARE ACTIVELY INVOLVED IN THE BEST RESPONSE THAT WE CAN PROVIDE THIS IS A SMART MOVE TO KEEP US IN THE BIGGEST SPACE TO CAPTURE SO I DON'T KNOW THE FINANCIAL ARRANGEMENTS OF OTHER COUNTIES.

>> I AM SAYING WITHIN OUR COMMUNITY WE HAVE CERTAIN MUNICIPALITIES THAT HAVE CHOSEN NOT TO EXTEND THEIR LOCAL DISASTER ãCITY COUNCIL I DON'T KNOW IF YOU KNEW.

>> I HAVE BEEN WITH WHAT THE LOCAL OFFICIALS CALL, DRIVING THAT MESSAGE HOME BUT I JUST SHARE WITH THE PUBLIC NOW THAT FEWER TRASH THE BETTER FOR UNIFORMITY SO I BELIEVE, STRONG WORD, THAT IF THERE ARE NO OTHER INQUIRIES IN THE COUNTY WE ARE ALL UNDER THE GOVERNOR'S

ãPLESE CALL THE ROLE. >> COMMISIONER INGALSBE YES.

[18. Discussion and possible action to authorize the County Judge to execute a Funding Agreement between Hays County and the City of Kyle regarding funding towards the Emergency Cash Assistance Program (ECAP). JONES]

COMMISSIONER JONES YES. COMMISSIONER SHELL YES. COMMISSIONER SMITH YES.

JUDGE BECERRA YES. PLEASE READ 19. SUE MCKAY 18 DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION TO AUTHORIZE THE COUNTY JUDGE TO EXECUTE A FUNDING AGREEMENT BETWEEN HAYES COUNTY AND THE CITY OF KYLE REGARDING FUNDING TOWARDS THE EMERGENCY CASTS DOMINANT CASH

ASSISTANCE PROGRAM. >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

>> I WANT TO THANK THE CITY FOR PARTICIPATING IN OUR PROGRAM.

>> WE ONLY REQUEST I HAVE HAD IS THAT WE CHANGE THE SIGNATURE ãTO THE MAYOR WHICH WE HAVE DONE AND I BELIEVE I HAVE ONE QUESTION. BUT I DON'T THINK THAT REQUIRES AN EDITED AND I THINK THE CITY HAS INDICATED THAT IF THE COURT DETERMINES THAT IT WOULD LIKE TO EXPAND THE PROGRAM IN THE FUTURE, THAT WOULD BE WILLING TO CONSIDER THAT.

>> THANK YOU. >> THE RECORD DID HALF THE CONTRIBUTION AS $1000. YOU ARE CORRECT, IT'S 100,000. ASSUMING THE PAPER DOES NOT ALWAYS GET IT RIGHT BUT WE LOVE THEM FOR TRYING.

THE GOOD AND SOMETIMES IT'S NOT.BUT THAT HAPPENS. PLEASE CALL THE ROLE.

COMMISSIONER SMITH YES. COMMISSIONER SHELL YES. COMMISSIONER JONES YES.

[19. Discussion and possible action to authorize the execution of an agreement between Hays County and Milliman, Inc. for actuarial services related to retiree drug subsidy. INGALSBE/MILLER]

COMMISIONER INGALSBE YES. JUDGE BECERRA YES. PLEASE OPEN 19.

DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION TO AUTHORIZE THE EXECUTION OF AN AGREEMENT BETWEEN HAYES COUNTY AND MILLIMAN INCORPORATED FOR ACTUARY SERVICES FOR RETIRING DRUG

SUBSIDY. >> WE HAVE ãIN CASE ANYONE

WANTS TO ASK QUESTIONS >> I WILL LET HER COME UP.

>> GOOD MORNING. THIS IS OUR ANNUAL REVIEW FINANCIAL ANALYSIS OF RETIREES THAT ARE ON OUR HEALTHCARE INSURANCE THAT HAVE ENROLLED IN DRUG SUBSIDY PROGRAM SO WE GO OUT EVERY YEAR AND LOOK AT THE DRUG PROGRAMS THAT THE RETIREES HAVE ENROLLED AND TO ENSURE THAT THEY ARE CREDIBLE PROGRAMS THIS IS TO EXECUTE ãTO CONDUCT FOR FINANCIAL STUDY AND WHAT

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HAPPENS IS WE APPLY FOR SUBSIDY REBATES AND SOME OF THAT MONEY COMES BACK TO THE COUNTY.

>> ANY QUESTIONS?WELL DONE. PLEASE CALL THE ROLE. COMMISSIONER JONES YES.

COMMISSIONER SMITH YES. COMMISSIONER SHELL YES. COMMISIONER INGALSBE YES.

[20. Discussion and possible action to authorize the County Judge to execute a First Amendment to the Health Care Services Agreement with Wellpath, LLC for the Juvenile Detention Facility and authorize a discretionary exemption pursuant to Texas Local Government Code, Ch. 262.024(a)(4). INGALSBE/LITTLEJOHN]

JUDGE BECERRA. YES. PLEASE OPEN NUMBER 20.

SUE MY DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTIONS AUTHORIZE THE COUNTY JUDGE TO EXECUTE A FIRST AMENDMENT TO THE HEALTHCARE SERVICES AGREEMENT WITH WELL PATH LLC FOR THE JUVENILE DETENTION FACILITY AND AUTHORIZE A DISCRETIONARY EXEMPTION PURSUANT TO TEXAS LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE CHAPTER 262.024 84.

>> MOVED. SECOND.

>> THE FIRST QUESTION IS WHY THE EXEMPTION?

>> I WILL LET SOMEONE ELSE ANSWER THAT. IT'S JUST AN EXTENSION.

>> IF YOU WILL APPROACH THE PODIUM STATE YOUR NAME AND POSITION.

>>.

LITTLEJOHN. WE BUDGETED FOR THREE PERCENT AND INCREASED TO FOUR PERCENT

AND >> AN ADDITIONAL PERCENTAGE.

>> SO WE IN THE 21 BUDGET WE ANTICIPATED WHAT THEY TYPICALLY INCREASE ABOUT A THREE PERCENT INCREASE HOWEVER FOR THE CONTRACT THEY ARE GOING TO INCREASE UP TO FOUR PERCENT AND THEY WENT ALL THE WAY UP TO FOUR PERCENT SO WE WILL BUDGET THAT IN NEXT WEEK'S FINAL BUDGET HEARING AND REQUIRES THIS CONTRACT BE IN PLACE BECAUSE IT'S AN ANNUAL RENEWAL THAT WE NEED TO EXECUTE AND THE EXCEPTION IS THERE. WE HAVE THAT CONTRACT THAT YOU PIGGYBACKED WITH THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE IN ORDER TO CONTACT THE SERVICES THAT ARE USED AS WELL.

>> WHAT IS THE ADDITIONAL NINE PERCENT.

>> I WILL HAVE IT AVAILABLE NEXT WEEK'S BUDGET.

>> THANK YOU. >> ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE

SPEAKER? >> THEY HAVE BEEN PROVIDING

GOOD SERVICE. >> THEY HAVE BEEN THERE SINCE COVID SINCE MARCH. WE HAVE HAD SOME NURSES STAY WITH US AND THEY HAVEN'T COMPLAINED. THEY HAVE BEEN WORKING 16 OR 17 HOUR DAYS.

WE ARE REALLY HAPPY WITH THEM. >> ONE PERCENT IF IT'S $318,000 I WOULD SAY ONE PERCENT WOULD BE 3000.

>>.

>> IT'S A LITTLE LOWER. >> THANK YOU.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE. PLEASE CALL THE ROLE. SUE MIGHT COMMISSIONER SHELL

[21. Discussion and possible action to adopt a Resolution related to the creation of a Hays County Onion Creek Watershed Technical Group. JONES/STRICKLAND]

YES. COMMISSIONER JONES YES. COMMISSIONER SMITH YES.

COMMISIONER INGALSBE YES. JUDGE BECERRA. YES.

>> PLEASE OPEN NUMBER 21. SUE MY DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION TO ADOPT A RESOLUTION RELATED TO THE CREATION OF A HAYES COUNTY ONION CREEK WATERSHED TECHNICAL GROUP.

>> MOVED. SECOND.

>> COMMISSIONER? >> WE HAVE HAD SEVERAL MEETINGS FOR THIS GROUP WITH TRAVIS COUNTY HAYES COUNTY ã EVENTUALLY AND WHAT THIS DOES IS GIVE OUR GROUP A CHANCE TO PUT TOGETHER A TECHNICAL GROUP THAT WILL BE ADVISING.

>> THAT'S CORRECT. THIS WILL BE FOR THE CREATION OF THE TECHNICAL OF THE HAYES COUNTY PIECE OF THE WATERSHED. EUREKA SPRINGS, ANYBODY WITHIN THE ãPARTS A NEW CREEK

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WATERSHED SPANS 10,000 ACRES ACROSS OUR ENTIRE KATHY SO IT'S A BIG DEAL TO MAKE SURE OUR TOTAL REGULATIONS AND FLOW GRADES WILL BE ãSO THIS IS STEP ONE SO WE CAN START INCORPORATING THE CITIES. SUE MIKE WHAT IS THE ROADMAP FOR THE BODY?

>> WE WILL CONTINUE TO WORK ON THAT WITH OUR CITIES SO EVERYONE IS ON THE SAME PAGE WE HAVE A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT KINDS OF STAKEHOLDERS JUST BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT THE PROBLEM HOLISTICALLY. YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT THE DEVELOPMENT REGULATION PIECE TO MAKE SURE IMPERVIOUS COVER AND ALL THOSE UPDATES ARE GOING TO BE INCORPORATED INTO THIS.

SIMILAR TO WHAT WE DID IN 2005 WITH THE BLANCO WATERSHED WE DID A VERY LARGE COHESIVE PIECE I HOPE WE CAN INCORPORATE A LOT OF THAT ãTHAT INTO THIS.

>> I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO OUR STAFF WHO WORKED ALL THIS. I KNOW IT CAN'T BE AN EASY ONE IT'S A TECHNICAL GROUP ONE WE WILL BE LOOKING SPECIFICALLY AT THE SCIENCE THAT WILL BE USED AND HOW THEY INTERPLAY WITH EACH OTHER FILLING OF THE THING I WOULD SAY, WORKING WITH THE

COMMISSIONER. I AM IN FULL SUPPORT >> PLEASE CALL THE ROLE.

COMMISIONER INGALSBE YES. COMMISSIONER SMITH YES. COMMISSIONER JONES YES.

[23. Discussion and possible action to authorize the County Judge to execute a Professional Services Agreement (PSA) between Hays County and Independence Title to provide closing services for the HUD funded Community Development Block Grant Disaster Relief (CDBG-DR) Housing Program. JONES/T.CRUMLEY]

COMMISSIONER SHELL YES. JUDGE BECERRA YES. PLEASE OPEN 23.

SUE MY DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION TO AUTHORIZE THE COUNTY JUDGE SHALL EXECUTE A PROFESSIONAL SERVICES AGREEMENT BETWEEN HAYES COUNTY AND INDEPENDENCE TITLE TO PROVIDE CLOSING SERVICES FOR THE HUD FUNDED COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT DISASTER RELIEF

HOUSING PROGRAM. >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A

SECOND. COMMISSIONER JONES? >> IF YOU WILL POINT THE

MICROPHONE >> THIS IS FOR THE BUYOUT AND OTHER PROPERTIES AND MY UNDERSTANDING THERE IS ONLY ONE COMPANY THAT RESPONDED.

>> WHY DO YOU THINK ONLY ONE RESPONDED? IT DOESN'T MAKE PROCUREMENT EASIER. WE HAVE NEVER GONE OUT TO PROCURE TITLE SERVICES I DON'T THINK THEY WERE BIRD-DOG A ARE ADVERTISEMENTS IF IT'S ON A CLOSING BASIS AND WHATNOT AND IT'S ALL STATE REGULATED THE FEES THAT THEY GET ON IT THERE'S NOT A LOT TO COMPETE WITH BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO BE THE SAME. THAT'S PROBABLY WHY THEY HAD

RESPONDED. >> THIS IS A COMPANY THAT DOES A LOT OF WORK IN THE COUNTY.

>> IS JUST A HANDFUL OF PROPERTIES.

>> IT WILL BE UNDER 50,000 AND >> THIS IS ANTICIPATED JUST A FEW THOUSAND.

[28. Discussion related to the Hays County inmate population, to include current population counts and costs. BECERRA]

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COMMISSIONER SMITH YES. COMMISSIONER SHELL YES. COMMISIONER INGALSBE YES.

JUDGE BECERRA. YES.

>> PLEASE OPEN 28. >> 28 DISCUSSION RELATED TO THE HAYES COUNTY INMATE POPULATION TO THE PERMANENT ãCURRENT POPULATION COUNTS AND COSTS.

>> THIS WEEK'S REPORT READS AS FOLLOWS. OUR CAPACITY IS THREE HAS 62 INMATES AND 311. PEAK WAS 473 FOR THE WEEK OF SEPTEMBER 6 THROUGH 12TH 2020 THE COST FOR OUTSOURCING IS 55,000 $77 THE AVERAGE NUMBER IS 154 AND FEMALES 4. THIS WEEK'S INMATES WERE HOUSED IN THE FOLLOWING COUNTIES CALDWELL, FORT BEND, WALKER.

AND THE DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC SAFETY AND ãAND UNIVERSITY 21. DO YOU WANT TO OPEN ALL THREE?

[EXECUTIVE SESSIONS]

PLEASE OPEN 24 25 AND 26 AND AFTER WE COME OUT OF EXECUTIVE SESSION THERE WILL BE NO

ADDITIONAL ITEMS OPEN. >> 24, EXECUTIVE SESSION PURSUANT TO 551.071 OF THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE. CONSULTATION WITH COUNSEL REGARDING PENDING AND/OR CONTEMPLATED LITIGATION INVOLVING HAYES COUNTY.

POSSIBLE ACTION MAY FOLLOW IN OPEN COURT. 25.CONSULTATION WITH COUNSEL REGARDING THE COLLECTIVE BARGAINING AGREEMENT BETWEEN HAYES COUNTY AND THE HAYES COUNTY LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFIION CONSULTATION WITH COUNSEL AND DELIBERATION REGARDING ALL INDIVIDUAL POSITIONS SUBJECT TO COLLECTIVE BARGAINING AGREEMENT.

26. CONSULTATION ON COUNSEL REGARDING THE PARKS AND OPEN SPACE PLOT PROPOSITION ON THE NOVEMBER 3, 2020 BALLOT IN CONSULTATION WITH COUNSEL AND DELIBERATION REGARDING THE PURCHASE, EXCHANGE, LEASE, VALUE OF REAL PROPERTY REGARDING PARKS AND OPEN SPACES WITHIN HAYES COUNTY.OKAY. SO WE ARE COMING OUT OF EXECUTIVE SESSION. NO ACTION ON 24 OR 25 BUT WE HAVE A MOTION FOR 26.

>> A MOTION THAT HAYES COUNTY PUBLIC INFORMATION OFFICER TO PURCHASE ITEMS AS SERVICE RELATED TO THE ESTABLISHMENT OF A HAYES COUNTY 2020 WEBSITE AND OTHER INFORMATION PROVIDING RESOURCES NOT TO EXCEED $2500 TO BE TAKEN FROM COUNTY CONTINGENCY.

ANY OTHER COMMENTS? WE ARE MOVING ON THIS AS TIMELY AS WE CAN BECAUSE WE WANT TO GIVE THE VOTERS AS MUCH INFORMATION AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.

>> COMMISIONER INGALSBE YES. COMMISSIONER JONES YES. COMMISSIONER

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