Sep 08, 2020 Regular

[CALL TO ORDER]

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MEETING TO ORDER. THIS MORNING'S INVOCATION WILL BE LED BY CHAPLAIN JALMADO OF

CENTRAL BAPTIST TEXAS. IF YOU WOULD PLEASE ALL RISE. >> THANK YOU.

I WOULD LIKE TO START BY READING PSALM 10:17-18. OH, LORD, YOU HAVE HEARD THE DESIRE OF THE HUMBLE. YOU WILL STRENGTHEN THEIR HEART. YOU WILL INCLINE YOUR EAR TO INDICATE ORPHAN AND THE OPPRESSED, SO THAT MAN WHO IS OF THE EARTH WILL NO LONGER COST HERE. FATHER GOD, WITH HUMILITY WE ASK FOR YOURS AND GUIDANCE IN OUR COURTROOM THIS MORNING. THANK YOU FOR HEARING OUR PRAYERS.

AMEN. >> AMEN. >> I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

HONOR THE TEXAS FLAG. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THEE TEXAS ONE STATE UNDER GOD.

ONE AND INDIVISIBLE. >> DOCTOR CARDENAS, WILL YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

>> COMMISSIONER INGALSBE. >> HERE. >> COMMISSIONER JONES.

>> HERE. >> COMMISSIONER SHELL. >> HERE.

>> COMMISSIONER SMITH. >> HERE. >> JUDGE BECERRA.

>> HERE. AND WE WILL START WITH PUBLIC COMMENTS.

[PUBLIC COMMENTS]

ANY QUESTIONS WILL BE TAKEN AS RHETORICAL. ALL COMMENTS ARE OPINIONS OF THE SPEAKERS AND ARE NOT MEANT TO BE NECESSARILY CONSTRUED AS TRUTH. PLEASE KEEP YOUR COMMENTS AND LANGUAGE CIVIL AND RESPECTFUL OR YOU WILL FORFEIT THE REMAINDER OF YOUR TIME.

IN THE SPIRIT OF RESPECT, PLEASE SILENCE YOUR CELL PHONES. FIRST PERSON SIGNED UP TO SPEAK

IS MR. DAN LYON. >> THANK YOU, JUDGE BECERRA AND COMMISSIONERS.

A FEW WEEKS AGO WAS AT THIS PODIUM POINTING OUT THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE WAS REQUESTING A WAIVER SO ALMOST $41,000 WORTH OF FURNITURE COULD BE BOUGHT FOR THE NEW JAIL LOBBY.

FAST FORWARD TO TODAY. JAIL AUTHORITIES HAVE SPENT OVER $61,800 THROUGH 153 DISBURSEMENTS FOR JAIL FURNITURE. IN A TIME WHEN MANY PEOPLE ARE UNEMPLOYED WITH MOST HAYS COUNTY BUSINESS EITHER SEVERELY CURTAILED OR SHUT DOWN ALTOGETHER, JAIL AUTHORITIES CHOOSE TO GIVE THOSE WHO PAY TAXES MANY HAYS COUNTY THE PROVERBIAL MIDDLE FINGER. THIS IS REALLY NOT ALL THAT SURPRISING.

THIS IS -- THEY ARE FOLLOWING THE COMMISSIONER COURT'S LEAD EVEN THOUGH THE COURT KNOWS THAT THE PROPERTY VALUATIONS ARE UP AN AVERAGE OF 7-8% THIS YEAR. THEY HAVE CHOSEN TO RAISE THE TAXES TO 10% ORER. IT IS CLEAR THE SOLUTION IT NOT BEING ABLE TO BALANCE THE BUDGET. IT'S TO ADD MORE CHAINS TO THE PEOPLE OF HAYS COUNTY.

I GUESS THAT'S PAR FOR THE COURSE FOR A REPORT WHICH SERVES THE INTEREST OF THE BANK OF NEW YORK MELON, THE ROAD CONTRACTORS AND FORMER COMMISSIONERS AND THEN FORCES THE PEOPLE OF HAYS COUNTY TO PAY FOR IT WHAT MAKES IT EVEN SWORS LISTENING TO THE BUREAUCRACY OF THE COURT WHEN IT COLLECTIVELY CLAIMS IT HAS WORKED HARD TO KEEP TAXES LOW. YOU ARE TRULY PATHETIC.

I ALMOST FORGOT. I ALMOST FORGOT. NOW YOU HAVE SHOVED A $75 MILLION BOND PROPOSAL IN FRONT OF THE PEOPLE, PROMISING NO INCREASE IN THE TAX RATE.

OF COURSE, YOU WON'T INCREASE IT THEN BECAUSE YOU ARE INCREASING IT TODAY.

I'M SICK OF YOUR DUPLICITY AND DECEPTION. IF YOU SEE MY NAME ON YOUR PARTY CAMPAIGN MAILING LIST JUST CROSS IT OUT. I'M TIRED OF TAKING YOUR CRAP TO THE RECYCLING. LET'S GO TO THE DISBURSEMENTS. FORT BEND COUNTY TREASURER JULY 20TH, INMATE HOUSING. $121,715. VERACITY AVIATION AIRCRAFT

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VERY MUCH. >> THANK YOU, SIR. OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS MISS

CHRISTINE TERRELL. >> GOOD MORNING. TODAY I'D LIKE TO START WITH A QUOTE I HEARD THIS WEEK AN AUTHOR. TO DESCRIBE SOMEONE AS A CRIMINAL IS TO BOTH MARK THAT PERSON WITH A TERRIFYING CHARACTER AND SAME TAN YUTIONLY IT PLACE THAT OUTSIDE THE CIRCLE -- SIMULTANEOUSLY IN THE PLACE OUTSIDE THE CIRCLE CALLED US.

IT STRUCK A CHORD WITH ME BECAUSE I REALIZE THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I'VE BEEN HEARING THE LAST FEW MONTHS, THE WILLINGNESS TO DEMONIZE AND WRITE OFF PEOPLE WHO ARE STRUGGLING.

HERE'S WHAT WE SEE AT THE NATIONAL LEVEL. IT'S HONESTLY DISHEARTENING TO SEE MY OWN NEIGHBORS BEHAVE THE SAME WAY AS THE FAR OFF POLITICAL TALKING HEADS WE SEE ON TV. IT'S ALSO CURIOUS TO ME BECAUSE I KNOW WITHOUT A DOUBT THAT NO ONE IN THIS ROOM WOULD ALLOW THEIR KIDS OR RELTIFSS TO BE BRAND AS NOTHING MORE THAN CRIMINAL. -- RELATIVES. MY SON ISN'T AN ADDICT.

HE JUST GOT CAUGHT WITH A COUPLE OF JOINTS. MY UNCLE DIDN'T FOOD BUT ONLY BECAUSE WE LOST HIS JOB. WE HAD TO SCROUNGE UP MONEY FOR OUR NIECE WITH HAD A DUI.

OUR PEOPLE ARE NEVER JUST CRIPPLE CASMTZ IT'S BEEN DIFFICULT TO WATCH CRIMINALS CONTINUED WILLINGNESS TO WRITE OFF THEIR CONSTITUENTS AS NOTHING MORE THAN CRIMINALS AND LEAVE THEM TO THE WINDS OF A LEGAL SYSTEM THAT IS WORKING FOR NO ONE.

IT'S NOT WORKING FOR TAXPAYERS AS EVIDENCED BY THE EXORBITANT AND EVER INCREASING COSTS.

IT'S NOT WORKING FOR VICTIMS OF CRIMES AS EVIDENCED BY MR. SMITH'S OWN COMMENTS AND IT'S CERTAINLY NOT WORKING FOR THE PEOPLE WHO ARE HELD PRETRIAL FOR MONTHS AND YEARS IN ONE OF THE SLOWEST LEGAL SYSTEMS IN TEXAS. EVEN WHEN ATTENTION SHIFTS TO THE ACTUAL SERIOUS WORK AROUND JAIL AND ADJUDICATION PROCESS, IT'S BEING ADDRESSED IN A PIECEMEAL FASHION. WE HAVE A PRETRIAL SERVICE EMPLOYEE BUT NO OFFICE AND POWER OF OVERSIGHT. WE HAVE A SITE AND THE AGREEMENT BUT IMPLEMENTATION IS ALREADY BEING DELAYED. WE HAVE A MENTAL HEALTH COURT THAT'S NOT UP AND RUNNING AND PART OF AN UNDERRESOURCE DEPARTMENT. WE HAVE ALLOCATED MORE MONEY FOR COURT APPOINTED ATTORNEYS BUT HAVE NO MONEY OR STRUCTURE OR SYSTEM OF OVERSIGHT THAT MANAGES SIMPLE THINGS LIKE HOW MANY TIMES A SET CAN -- CASE CAN BE RESET.

ALL OF THESE THINGS WOULD BE CHEAPER AND BETTER IF WE ESTABLISHED A HOLISTIC PUBLIC DEFENDERS OFFICE, BUT INSTEAD OF POLITICAL WILL WE HAVE POLITICAL WON'T.

THE TITLE OF COMMISSIONER GRANTS AUTHORITY, BUT IT TAKES LEADERSHIP TO CREATE LEGITIMACY.

LIVING IN UNPRECEDENTED TIMES CALLS ON EACH US TO SHED THE IDEAS OF THE PAST THAT NO LONGER SERVE US OR STEP INTO OUR OWN POWER AND HELP BUILD THE STRUCTURES OF THE FUTURE.

SEEING A LACK OF LEADERSHIP HERE MEANS THAT THIS IMPORTANT WORK NEEDS TO BE DONE ELSE.

WHERE I THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. I HONESTLY HOPE FOR ALL OUR SAKES THAT THIS BODY CHANGES ITS BUSINESS AS USUAL PROCH. OUR COLLECTIVE FUTURE REQUIRES MUCH MORE FROM US.

>> THANK YOU, MA'AM. OUR FINAL PUBLIC SPEAKER FOR THE PORTION OF PUBLIC COMMENTS IS

MISS BONNIE CLYDE. >> MY PRESENTATION TODAY IS ABOUT ELECTION INTEGRITY AND IT DEALS WITH THE ROSTERS THAT ARE ON THE ELECTION WEBSITE THAT HAVE THE VOTERS' NAME, ADDRESS AND PARTY THAT THEY VOTED IN. AND I HAVE LOOKED THIS UP ON THE ELECTION CODE.

ONE OF THE THINGS IS THAT ALL ELECTION WORKERS HAVE TO TAKE AN OATH OF OFFICE THAT THEY WILL GUARD THE PURITY OF THES AND WHEN I TOOK THAT OFF, I'VE BEEN A -- I'VE BEEN IN A TERM-APPOINTED ELECTIONS SINCE 2004. AND TRAVIS COUNTY AND WORKED SOME IN HAYS HERE AS WITH. ALL ELECTION WORKERS HAVE TO TAKE THIS OATH BEFORE THE ELECTION STARTS. IT SAYS THAT THEY WILL NOT SEEK TO PERSUADE A VOTER IN HOW THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO VOTE AND ON THE ELECTION THAT I TOOK SAID ALSO THAT WE WILL NOT DIVULGE HOW A

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DOES NOT SAY TO PUT HOW THEY VOTED IN THAT ELECTION. SO TO ME THAT IS VIOLATING THE ELECTION LAW, THE ELECTION CODE. AND IF YOU KNOW THE ELECTION CODE MOST OF IT IS -- IF YOU VIAL ALT IT. IT'S NOT. THEY -- VIOLATE IT.

THEY DID NOT TAKE IT -- THAT IS MY POINT TODAY THAT WE HAVE ON OUR ELECTION PAGE CURRENTLY, A LOT OFER OF WHO VOTED IN THE LAST ELECTION WITH THEIR ADDRESS WITH THE PARTY THEY VOTED IN AND ONE FOR THE MAIL-IN BALLOT AND THAT HAS THAT INFORMATION AS WELL AND IT SHOULDN'T -- BE AGAINST THE ELECTION CODE TO DO THAT. THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY.

THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, MA'AM. PLEASE OPEN AGENDA ITEM NUMBER

[1. Update from the County Judge and staff regarding the Local Disaster Declaration and COVID-19. Possible discussion and action may follow. BECERRA]

ONE. >> NUMBER ONE, UPDATE FROM THE COUNTY JUDGE AND STAFF REGARDING THE LOCAL DISASTER DECLARATION AND COVID-19. POSSIBLE DISCUSSION AND ACTION

MAY FOLLOW. >> STATE YOUR NAME AND TITLE. >> ALEX VILLALOBOS CHIEF OF STAFF RICHMOND MANAGEMENT COORDINATOR FOR THE RECORD. JUST A BRIEF UPDATE WITH REGARDS TO EQUIPMENT. WE DO HAVE PRINTERS AND OUR SERVICE.

WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF -- UTILIZING THEM TOGETHER FOR COMMUNICATION AND TESTING.

THERE HAS BEEN AN M.O.U., AND ALISA HAS BEEN PROVIDE AT GENERAL COUNCIL'S OFFICE WITH REGARDS TO OUR LOCATION IF THAT DEPARTMENT. AND ALSO, THE MOU COMMUNICARE.

US COORDSNATING THE -- COORDINATING THE EQUIPMENT FOR USE AND HAVING COMMUNICATIONS, EARLIEST WEDNESDAY WOULD BE UP FOR TESTING AS LATE AS SUNDAY. WE ALSO OF AS RECENT DONE EVACUATION -- [INAUDIBLE] AND COURT APPOINT REGIONAL EVACUATION PLAN.

THERE ARE SOME IMPROVEMENT THAT'S WE CAN MAKE AND ADDRESS THOSE IMPROVEMENTS WITH REGARDS TO HOW WE OVERALL OPERATE OUR COUNTY -- OUR COUNTY IS AHEAD OF THE GAME WHEN IT COMES TO DOCUMENTING AND REGISTERING PEOPLE FOR THOSE PARTICULAR SITUATIONS, AND I THINK WE'LL SEE HOW WE COORDINATE THAT AND LINK THAT WITH THE COUNTIES WE'RE COORDINATING WITH.

I THINK ALSO IT WOULD BE REMISS IF THAT THE RECENT GAME ONE OF THE FIRST ONES PLAYED WITH TEXAS STATE AGAINST SMU, THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT COULD BE IMBRUFTED OVERALL OPERATION OF THAT PLAN. ALTHOUGH WITH GIVEN THE -- GIVEN THE GROUP, GIVEN THE OPERATIONAL PLAN THAT'S PUT IN PLACE, IT APPEARS THAT EVERYTHING WENT AS WELL AS COULD BE.

I KNOW 245 THEY WERE HAVING TO MANAGE -- I KNOW THAT THEY WERE HAVING TO MANAGE THE CROWDS, IT BEING ONE OF THE FIRST PUBLIC EVENTS TAKEN PLACE IN A LONG TIME.

THEY HAD TO MANAGE THE CROWDS AND MANY PEOPLE COMING IN, BUT WITH REGARDS TO THE STADIUM, CROWD MANAGEMENT WAS SOMETHING THAT THEY FELT LIKE THERE WAS SLIGHT IMPROVEMENTS BUT OVERALL IT WAS WELL DONE. THE CONTROL OF UTILIZING FACILITIES, CONTROL OF THE CROWDS, SEPARATION, SOCIAL DISTANCING. I WOULD IMAGINE GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY CONTINUING PLAYING WHETHER THEY THE LAST TIME THE CROWDS ARE LARGER AND THEY WILL HAVE TO PUT IN CHECKS AND BALANCES IN PLACE FOR THOSE EVENTS.

THEY ARE AGAIN JUST AN UPDATE. THEY DO HAVE AN ISOLATION LOCATION ON CAMPUS THAT THEY WILL HAVE IN PLACE TO UTILIZE IN CASE THEY NEED TO ISOLATE AND ALSO QUARANTINE AS WELL.

AND THEY ARE WORKING ON THOSE PARTICULAR ITEMS GIVEN. WE'RE JUST STARTING CLASSES.

THERE ARE GOING TO BE INCREASES THERE AND ADDRESSING THOSE EVERYTHING VERY FLUID, VERY STILL AND CREATE AS THEY ARE CONTINUING TO UTILIZE THEIR OWN PLAN.

SO AS FAR AS SOME OF THE CONCERNS ARE CALLED WE'RE HAVING GOOD COMMUNICATION WITH THEM,

GOOD SUPPORT WITH THEIR TESTING AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE. >> ON THAT UNIVERSITY EVENT,

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WILL YOU MAKE SURE I GET A COPY OF THE DIRECTION REPORT? >> SURE.

>> COMMISSIONERS ANY QUESTIONS? >> NO, SIR. THANK YOU.

>> THANKS. >> YES, SIR. >> I DO.

>> YES, SIR. I'VE HAD SOME CITIZENS ASK ME, HOW ARE WE -- ARE WE AUDITING THE HOSPITALS HOW THEY ARE REPORTING? OR IS IT A CONSISTENT REPORTING? YOU GET THOSE QUESTIONS ALSO. KIND OF SPEAK TO THAT A LITTLE BIT.

>> ABSOLUTELY. WE HAVE BEEN ENGAGED IN COMMUNICATION WITH ALL HOSPITAL SYSTEMS. WE HAVE RECENTLY HAD WORKED A COUPLE OF THE SYSTEMS TO DRIVE DOWN EVEN MORE SPECIFIC DATA INFORMATION, BUT THE INFORMATION AWE ARE RECEIVING WE ARE

APPROVED -- WE ARE REPORTING IT AS WE RECEIVE IT. >> AND THEN HOW ARE WE DECIDING

IF SOMETHING IS COVID OR IF IT'S NOT? >> WELL THAT IS PROBABLY

>> TAMMY? >> WITHIN TAMMY'S FIELD. >> STATE YOUR NAME AND TITLE FOR

THE RECORD. >> IT'S COVID RELATED, HOW DOES THAT GET COUNTED AS A COVID

DEATH. >> COUNTY WIDE OPERATIONS. THE HOSPITAL REPORTS TO US WHETHER OR NOT THEY HAVE CLASSIFIED IT AS A COVID-RELATED DEATH.

THAT IS IF THEY HAVE COME IN FOR A SYMPTOM RELATED BY A COVID MANNER.

MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THEY REPORT IT IF THEY COME IN FOR A PREGNANCY AND REPORT IT AS A COVID THAT'S NOT A COVID RELATED ADMISSION. IF THEY HAVE BEEN HOSPITALIZED FOR LET'S SAY HEART FAILURE AND SUBSEQUENTLY DIED RELATED TO COVID THAT IS NOT A COVID

RELATED DEATH. >> I GUESS THERE'S CDC GUIDELINES AS FAR AS WE KNOW,

ALL OUR HOSPITALS FOLLOW THOSE GUIDELINES. >> ABSOLUTELY.

>> OK. THANK YOU. >> I WOULD LIKE TO ALSO ADD THAT THERE IS A EARLY ON I KNOW TAMMY AND I FOR SURE WORKING WITH ONE OF OUR JPS ARE ARTICULATING THE DETAILS WITH THE CORONER ASSESSING AND THESE DECLARATIONS THESE BRANDINGS OF COVID-19 DEATHS AREN'T TAKEN LIGHTLY. THEY ARE HIGHLY SCRUTINIZED AND I KNOW THAT IT'S FUN TO SOME FOLKS AND IT'S THE WAY OTHERS MAY -- MY ONLY JUSTIFICATION HANDLE STRESS BY SENSATIONALIZING OR TRYING TO CREATE DIVISION WITH REPORTING. BUT WE AS A COUNTY HAVE DONE NOTHING BUT GRAB THE INFORMATION THAT IS PROVIDED TO US AND SHARE IT.

AT EVERY TURN WE HAVE AVAILABLE TO US WE AUDIT. SPECIFICALLY, I SPOKE TO ONE OF THE DOCTORS DOING AN AUTOPSY. I WAS LIKE OK, TELL ME. OK.

DID YOU WHAT. WHAT ELSE? AND I HAVE A SINCERE PASSION TO MAKE SURE THAT THE COMMUNITY KNOWS EVERYTHING I KNOW, AND SO WHEN SOME INDIVIDUALS MAY COME OUT AND SAY WE'RE KEEPING THINGS FROM THEM, WELL NO. OR THAT WE'RE MISREPORTING.

NO, BECAUSE JUST IMAGINE WITH ALL THE CODES -- CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, TAMMY.

WITH ALL THE CODES THAT NEED TO GO INTO A DESIGNATION OF ANYTHING EVEN FOR REIMBURSEMENT, ICD 9 AND 10 CODES. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT IF PEOPLE KNOW IF SOMEONE IS LABELEDCO 1RID A DEATH WITH COVID, THERE'S A WHOLE MYRIAD OF THOSE THINGS THAT HAVE TO TAKE PLACE -- LABELED. IT'S NOT A WILLY-NILLY DECISION TO SAY WELL IT'S GOING TO LOOK MORE ALARMING. IT'S GOING TO LOOK MORE -- HOWEVERS SOMEONE MAY WANT TO SPIN IF IF WE LABEL THIS HEART ATTACK A COVID DEATH WHEN IN FACT IT WAS A HEART ATTACK.

NO, THIS IS NOT WHAT THE HOSPITALS ARE DOING BECAUSE TOO MANY PEOPLE IN THE ORGANIZATION WILL HAVE TO ALL AGREE THAT THEY WERE GOING TO LIE ABOUT CAUSE OF DEATH AND THAT JUST IN MY MIND IT JUST DOESN'T MAKE SENSE THAT A MYRIAD OF LEVELS IN A HOSPITAL SYSTEM WOULD ALL LIE ABOUT A DEATH WHERE THEY DON'T HAVE A PARTICULAR PERSONAL FINANCIAL GAIN IN DOING SO.

AM I RIGHT? >> YES. THAT'S WHAT THE HOSPITAL -- THEY HAVE A FINE LINE TO SERT FIGHT DEATH. ADDS A HEALTH DEPARTMENT WE'RE REPORTING WHAT WE'RE RECEIVING FROM THE POSSIBILITY OF A CERTIFICATE AND THE HOSPITALS.

WE DON'T GET TO DIAGNOSE THE DEATH OR RECEIVING THOSE IN A IS RIGHT.

SO THE MEDICAL PROFESSIONALS AS COURT MEMBERS, THE MEDICAL PROFESSIONALS HAVE GONE JUST BEYOND READING HEADLINES AND SCECTDIVE SUMMARIES FROM CDC GUIDELINES.

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WE ALL TAKE THIS SERIOUS. EVERYONE AT EVERY LEVEL WHO TOUCHES HAD IS SINCERELY REPORTING THE MOST ACCURATE INFORMATION THAT'S AVAILABLE AT THE TIME.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? >> YEAH. I HAVE A COUPLE.

I COULDN'T AGREE MORE WITH YOU WHEN IT COMES TO THE LOCAL INPUT OF PHYSICIAN WHO'S HANDLE THESE PATIENTS ON A DAILY BASIS AND THE INTERACTIONS THEY HAVE WITH THEM.

I'M GLAD TO HEAR YOU COMMENTING ON YOUR SUPPORT FOR THEM AND THEIR DEDICATION TO OUR COMMUNITY. SO I DO HAVE SOME QUESTIONS FOR YOU, MR. VILLALOBOS, RELATIVE TO THE UNIVERSITY. THERE WAS AN ARTICLE THAT CAME OUT THIS MORNING IN THE TRIBUNE RELATIVE TO THE INCREASE OF HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF STUDENTS BACK ON CAMPUSES AND SPECIFICALLY RENKSS TEXAS STATE. AND IT HAD SOME OVERALL NUMBERS ON INCREASE OF AFFECTION STATEWIDE IN DIFFERENT COLLEGES AND UNIVERSITIES. DO WE HAVE ANY NUMBERS WHATSOEVER OUT OF THE UNIVERSITY AS FAR AS WHAT SPIKES THEY HAVE SEEN SINCE THEY CAME BACK?

>> WELL AS OF YET SINCE THE LAST TIME WE SPOKE SPEAKING WITH BOTH THE EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT COORDINATOR AND THEIR DOCTOR, HARANGO, I HAVEN'T RECEIVED THE MOST RECENT AS EARLY AS THIS MORNING ASKING WHAT THOSE NUMBERS ARE. IT WAS UNCLEAR.

WHAT THOSE SPECIFIC NUMBERS WOULD BE. I WOULD BE HARD-PRESSED NOT TO DO THAT BUT I KNOW THOSE NUMBERS ARING SHARED WITH THE OFFICE TO REPORT THOSE.

AS FAR AS THE MOST RECENT UPDATE. >> HOW OFTEN THEY GETTING

SHARED? >> DO WE KNOW HOW OFTEN THEY ARE GETTING SHARED? ONE OF THE LARGEST THINGS TO UNDERSTAND IF THEY ARE IN HAYS COUNTY AND THEIR ADDRESS THEY ARE GOING TO REPORTING HAYS COUNTY NUMBERS. IF THEY ARE HERE NOT LIVING IN HAYS COUNTY THOSE NUMBERS WOULD BE DIRECTED RESIDING AT THE TIME.

>> I UNDERSTAND THAT. MY THAT IF THEY ARE DOING THE MONITORING ON CAMPUS AND THEIR OWN QUARANTINE WE'RE NOT QUARANTINE A CONTAINMENT AREA THOSE THINGS ARE ON CAMPUS.

HOW OFTEN WE GETTING THOSE TO REPORT? >> AS FAR AS SPEAKING ABOUT TODAY, THE ISOLATION FACILITY THEY AREN'T AWARE OF ANYBODY RESIDING THERE AT THIS POINT.

NOW THAT WOULD NOT HAVE CHANGED FROM THE LAST TIME THE EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT COORDINATOR SPOKE WITH THE DOCTOR IS SOME MUCH THOSE THINGS ARE ON A DIFFERENT BRANCH.

>> MY QUESTION IS, AS THOSE STUDENTS COME BACK TO CAMPUS AND WE TALKED ABOUT IT.

YOU KNOW. IS THERE ANY WAY OR DO WE HAVE ANY WAY THAT THEY ARE REPORTING

TO US? >> OK, WELL WE'VE ALREADY HEARD OF INCIDENTS, MENTION A FOOTBALL GAME. THE FOOTBALL GAME, THAT'S A VERY PUBLIC -- I MEAN, THAT'S A VERY PUBLIC THING. THEY WERE WILLING AND ABLE TO PLAN FOR IT.

THEY KNEW THEY WERE GOING TO HAVE CROWDS THOSE KIND OF THINGS.

I'M MUCH MORE CONCERNED OF THE 300-PERSON HOUSE PARTY IN THE MIDDLE OF TOWN AND WHAT KIND OF INFECTIONS COME OUT OF THAT AND HOW THEY ARE ADDRESSING THAT ON CAMPUS ON A DAILY BASE HOW DHOK

THAT AND HOW IT'S IMPACTING OUR SYSTEM. >> SURE.

MIKE -- EMERGENCY SERVICES. I DIDN'T GET A CHANCE TO TALK WITH AL BELL.

THIS, BUT DR. CONE SAID THE FIRST WEEK BACK THEY HAD 55 WHO WERE POSITIVE AND THEY ARE NOW IN THE PROCESS OF CONDUCTING 400 SURVEILLANCE TESTING RIGHT NOW TODAY AS FAR THE WEEK.

[INAUDIBLE] IF THEY ARE NOT A HAYS COUNTY RESIDENT THEY ARE GOING TO BE REPORTING TO US WHAT THE NUMBERS ARE IN TEXAS STATE AND CHIEF OF SERVICES BECAUSE WHILE THEY ARE

HERE THEY MIGHT CONSIDER THEM RESIDENTS OF HAYS COUNTY. >> RIGHT.

OK. >> DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, SIR?

>> AGAIN, MY CONCERN AND I TALKED ABOUT THIS BEFORE. I KNOW THEY HAVE THE BOBCAT

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I CAN'T BEGRUDGE THEM THAT. I WANT TO MAKE SURE EVERYTHING THAT HAPPENS WE'RE KEEPING UP

WITH IT IN A PROACTIVE WAY. >> THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS.

>> NO. >> SO JUST TO HIGHLIGHT THE RECAP IT'S GOING TO BE EVERY MONDAY. THEY JUST GOT BACK FROM THEIR BREAK AND OUR FIRST MONDAY WAS A HOLIDAY, BUT JUST TO REITERATE THAT WILL BE A WEEKLY UPDATE TO US AND AS AN ADDITIONAL DOUBLE DOWN IF SOMEONE HAS A HAYS COUNTY ADDRESS AND THEY TEST POSITIVE FOR COVID IT IS AGAINST THE LAW NOT TO REPORT IT TO US. REST ASSURED IT MAY NOT BE AS TIMELY AS YOU LIKE BUT THE NUMBERS ARE COMING US TO AND WE'RE REPORTING THEM AS SOON AS WE GET THEM.

PLEASE OPEN AGENDA ITEM NUMBER TWO. >> NUMBER TWO.

[2. Adopt a proclamation declaring September 2020 as Emergency Preparedness Month. BECERRA]

WHEREAS HAYS COUNTY AND ITS RESIDENTS ARE, UNFORTUNATELY, OFTEN TO ENDURE THE POSSIBILITY AND ALSO THE REALITY OF EMERGENCY SITUATIONS SUCH AS WILDFIRES, FLOODS, DROUGHTS, TORNADOES, PANDEMICS, CYBER ATTACKS, AND HAZARDOUS MATERIALS ACCIDENTS.

AND WHEREAS AS RECENTLY AS 2015 IN WIMBERLEY AND SAN MARCOS, AND 2019 IN DRIPPING SPRINGS MAJOR FLOODS IN OUR COUNTY CLAIMED THE LIVES AND COST IMMENSE PROPERTY DESTRUCTION FROM WHICH IT TOOK YEARS TO RECOVER. AND WHEREAS ALL RESIDENTS SHOULD ENSURE THAT THEIR FAMILIES ARE AS PREPARED AS POSSIBLE TO FACE THOSE THREATS FOR THE BEST POSSIBLE OUTCOME TO REDUCE THE LOSS OF LIFE AND PROPERTY AND WHEREAS RESIDENTS ARE ENCOURAGED TO DEVELOP AND PRACTICE EMERGENCY PLANS THAT INCLUDE COMMUNICATION STRATEGIES AND EMERGENCY MEETING LOCATIONS AS WELL AS TO DEVELOP A PREPAREDNESS KIT FOR HOMES AND VEHICLES THAT TAKES INTO CRTION THE NEEDS OF EVERYONE IN THEIR HOUSEHOLD THE -- INTO CONSIDERATION.

WHEREAS RESIDENTS ARE ENCOURAGED TO REGISTER AT COMMUNITY EMERGENCY RESPONSE TEAM CLASSES AND WHEREAS, POTENTIAL THREATS MAY CHANGE RAPIDLY AND IT IS IMPORTANT TO STAY INFORMED AND FOLLOW INSTRUCTIONS FROM LOCAL OFFICIALS AND FIRST RESPONDERS. NOW THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED, THAT THE HAYS COUNTY COMMISSIONERS COURT DOES HERE BY PROCLAIM SEPTEMBER 2020 AS EMERGENCY PREPAREDNESS MONTH. AND CALLS UPON THE RESIDENTS OF HAYS COUNTY TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF PREPAREDNESS PLANNING INFORMATION AVAILABLE THROUGH FEDERAL, STATE, AND LOCAL EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT OFFICES AND TO ATTEND THE HAYS COUNTY OFFICER EMERGENCY SERVICES PREPAREDNESS FAIR PRESENTED ON ZOOM ON SEPTEMBER THE 26TH, 2020 AND REGISTER YOUR ADDRESS FOR WARREN CENTRAL TEXAS.ORG, ADOPTED IN THE 8TH DAY OF THE, 2020.

>> SO MOVED. >> MOTION AND A SECOND. ARE THERE ANY COMMENTS? WE HAVE A SPEAKER. SURE. LET'S DO THAT NOW.

>> GOOD MORNING, COURT. AGAIN, MIKE JONES EMERGENCY SERVICES DIRECTOR.

YEAH. I'D LIKE TO ASK LORI AND ALSO IF THE FIRE MARSHALL CAN JOIN ME UP HERE. IT'S WITH GREAT PLEASURE THAT WE'RE HAVING OUR PREPAREDNESS MONTH THIS YEAR, OUR THIRD ANNUAL PREPAREDNESS FAIR THVMENT WOULD BE THE FIRST VIRTUAL PREPAREDNESS FAIR. THAT BEING SAID WE'RE STILL GOING TO HAVE THE SAME CLASSES WE HAD IN THE PAST. THE PREPAREDNESS EVENT, STOP THE BLEACHED THE TAKE TEN CPR FIRE WISE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE WILL BE ON HAND AND YOU LEARN TO BUILD A EVACUATION KIT OR SHELTER IN PLACE KIT. THIS WILL BE ON ZOOM SO IT WILL BE INTERACTIVE.

IF YOU WATCH IT YOU CAN ASK A QUESTION. IT WILL BE ELECTRONIC.

WE'LL CALL ON YOU AND ASK FOR YOU. ADDITIONALLY WE HAVE ARCHIVE EMERGENCY DISTRICT ACROSS THE COUNTY SHOWCASING THEIR APPARATUS WHAT THEY DO FOR THE COUNTY AND HOW YOU CAN GET INVOLVED. EMERGENCY RESPONSE TEAM ALONG WITH WE'LL HAVE AN ONLINE AUCTION. NORMALLY WE HAVE RAFFLE TICKETS.

RAFFLING IS AGAINST THE LAW. >> OH, PESKY LAWS. >> I DIDN'T WANT TO PU

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SO NOBODY HAS ANY REASON NOT TO GO WILLIE'S. ADDITIONALLY FOR THAT I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT Y'ALL UNDERSTAND THAT OUR TEAM ARE ALL PART TIMERS.

RACHEL HENRY. MARIE HERNANDEZ. MICHELLE GARDNER AND CASEY RILEY. THOSE THREE ARE INTERNERS THAT ARE WORKING AND HAVE DONE A FANTASTIC JOB COORDINATING AND BRINGING IN A LOT OF THE GIFTING YOU SEE OUT THERE.

WHEN YOU SEE AN ONLINE AUCTION YOU SEE A LOT OF WORK GOING ON BEHIND THIS WE ALWAYS SAY HAYS IS THE WAY. PLEASE JOIN US SEPTEMBER 26TH AND LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING YOU

ALL VIRTUALLY ONLINE. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH. >> THANKS FOR EVERYTHING YOU DO.

>> PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. >> COMMISSIONER SNOOIG YES. >> COMMISSIONER JONES.

>> YES. >> COMMISSIONER SHELL. >> YES.

>> COMMISSIONER SMITH. >> JUDGE BECERRA. >> YES.

AND THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU GO. YOU GUYS ARE PHENOMENAL. ESPECIALLY DURING THIS TIME.

HERE'S A SIGNED PROCLAMATION THAT'S A GOOD SPOT. WHILE THEY TAKE THEIR PICTURE

WILL YOU PLEASE OPEN I WAS ASKED IT OPEN AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 45. >> NUMBER 45, DISCUSSION RELATED

[45. Discussion related to the Hays County inmate population, to include current population counts and costs. BECERRA]

>> SO EACH WEEK I GET A REPORT FROM THE JAIL ON CAPACITY. HAYS COUNTY CURRENT MAXIMUM JAIL CAPACITY IS 362 INMATES. JAIL STANDARDS RECOMMENDEDS HOLDING APPROXIMATELY 10% OF CAPACITY OPEN. THAT LOWERS OUR CAPACITY TO 311. THE JAIL'S DAILY AVERAGE WAS 476 AND PEAK WAS 495 ON SEPTEMBER 5TH FOR THE WEEK OF AUGUST 30TH TOTH, 2020.

THE ESTIMATED COST FOR OUTSOURCING INMATES THIS WEEK IS $52,617.

THE AVERAGE NUMBER OF OUTSOURCED MALES IS 156 AND FEMALES ARE FOUR.

THIS WEEK'S INMATES WERE HOUSED IN THE FOLLOWING COUNTIES BLANCO BURNETT, CALDWELL, FORT BEND, WAUD LUPE AND WALK -- GUADELUPE AND WALKER. ARRESTS BY AGENCIES BUDA POLICE DEPARTMENT, 8. DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC SAFETY, FOUR.

HAYS COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE, 49. KYLE POLICE DEPARTMENT, 16.

SAN MARCOS POLICE DEPARTMENT, 25. AND TEXAS STATE UNIVERSITY, 2.

WE DON'T NEED TO OPEN THE GENERAL ITEM 44 FOR THE BURN BAN BECAUSE WE ARE NOT GOING TO LIFT BURN BAN. LICHT THE BURN BAN. WE LIFTED THE BURN BAN OVER THE

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ITEMS 3-7. >> THREE APPROVE PAYMENTS OF COUNTY INVOICES APPROVE THE PAVEMENT THE UNITED ELTEDZ HS CARE CLAIMS, FIVE, APPROVE THE COMMISSIONERS COURT MINUTES OF AUGUST 5TH, 2020. SIX IMPROVE THE PAVEMENT THE SEPTEMBER 16TH PAYROLL DISBURSEMENTS IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $2,970,000 EFFECTIVE SEPTEMBER 15TH, 2020 AND POST TOTALS FOR WAGES WITHHOLDINGS, DEDUCTIONS AND BENEFITS ON THE HAYS COUNTY WEBSITE ONCE FINALIZED. SEVEN, AUTHORIZE ON SITE TO EACH FACILITY PERMIT FOR TWO SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTS LOCATED AS 1028 WINDMILL ROAD DRIPPING SPRINGS, TEXAS.

IS MOVED. >> MOVED. >>S AND A SECOND.

ANY COMMENTS? PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. >> COMMISSIONER JONES.

>> YES. >> COMMISSIONER SMITH. >> YES.

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>> COMMISSIONER SHELL. >> YES. >> COMMISSIONER INGALSBE.

>> AND JUDGE BECERRA. >> YES. PLEASE OPEN AGENDA ITEM NUMBER

[8. Approve the re-appointment of Commissioner Lon Shell and Commissioner Debbie Ingalsbe, to the Greater San Marcos Partnership (GSMP) Board of Directors. SHELL]

8. >> NUMBER 8. APPROVE THE REAPPOINTMENT OF COMMISSIONER SHELL AND DEBLEY INGALSBE TO THE GREATER SAN MARCOS PARTNERSHIP BOARD OF

DIRECTORS. >> SO MOVED -- DEBBIE. >> WE HAVE ONE PERSON SIGNED UP

TO SPEAK. MR. DAN LYON. >> THANK YOU, JUDGE BECERRA.

GMSP IS A PRIVATE ORGANIZATION. HE PEOPLE OF HAZE COUNTRY NOT GIVEN NOTICE FOR INPUT TO THE AGENDA THEREOF. WHEN PVZS ARE FINALLY MADE IN COMMISSIONERS COURT IT IS ALREADY A DONE THE THIS IS NOT ONLY UNCONSTITUTIONAL IT IS WHICH IS REPORTEDLY IMPORTANT TO THE PARTY OF DEMOCRATS. IF I WERE SKILLED IN THE LAW, I'M BETTING THAT I COULD GET YOUR LEGAL COUNCIL TO CLAIM THE PEOPLE OF HAYS COUNTY ARE UNDER A, QUOTE, CONTRACT OF COMPELLED PERFORMANCE, UNQUOTE. I WOULD COUNTER I'D LIKE TO SEE THE CONTRACT WITH EACH PERSON SIGNED WITH THE TAXING AUTHORITIES IN HAYS COUNTY WINCE WE ALL KNOW THAT NO EXPLICIT CONTRACT EXISTS. THEN THIS, QUOTE, CONTRACT UNQUOTE MUST BE AN IMPLICIT ONE.

ANYWAY I HERE BY UNDER OATH ANNOUNCE -- RENOUNCE ANY AND ALL CONTRACTS WHICH ARE NOT EXPLICITLY SPELLED OUT IN WRITING WITHOUT ANYONE OR THE CITY.

ANY OTHER CONTRACTS WILL BE CONSIDERED FRAUDULENT AND THEREFORE NULL AND VOID WITH ALL UNLAWFUL BURDENS FOLLOWING ON THE PERPETRATOR OR PERPETRATORS OF ANY SUCH CONTRACTS.

THERE BY HOLDING ME HARMLESS. WHAT I JUST DID MEANS IT Y'ALL ARE BASICALLY TAXING MONEY IN A FRAUDULENT MANNER. AND I HERE BY RENOUNCE ANY CEKSS I HAVE WITH HAYS COUNTY OR ANYONE THAT CONSIDERS THEMSELVES A TAXING ENTITY OR ANYONE ELSE. SO BASICALLY, WHAT YOU'RE DOING HERE WITH APPOINTING THESE PEOPLE TO A PRIVATE ORGANIZATION IS THAT YOU'RE TAKING US, THE PEOPLE, OUT OF THE LOOP AND DICTATING TO US WHAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO PAY FOR THAT.

IS COMPLETELY UNCONSTITUTIONAL. I JUST RENOUNCED IT AND, YOUS IF I DON'T WANT TO PAY TAXES BELIEVE AMERICANS DON'T DELETE ME FROM THIS RECORDING BECAUSE I WANT TO USE THIS AS EVIDENCE.

SO ANYWAY THINK ABOUT IT BEFORE YOU TRY TO FORCE THE PEOPLE OF HAYS COUNTY TO DO THE BIDDING OF PRIVATE FIRMS LIKE GMSP. THEY HAVE BEEN VERY DESTRUCTIVE TO THE TAXPAYER OR I DON'T WANT TO SAY THAT WORD TO THE PEOPLE OF PAY TAXES MANY THIS COUNTY AND IT NEEDS TO CEASE RIGHT NOW.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> THANK YOU, SIR. >> COMMISSIONERS, WE HAVE A

MOTION AND A SECOND. COMMENTS? >> THANK YOU FOR BEING WILLING

TO SERVE. >> PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. >> COMMISSIONER SMITH.

>> YES. >> COMMISSIONER SHELL. >> YES.

>> COMMISSIONER JONES. >> YES. >> COMMISSIONER.

>> YES. >> JUDGE BECERRA. >> YES.

PLEASE OPEN AGENDA ITEMS 9 AND 10. >> NINE AUTHORIZE THE

[Items 9 & 10]

COURT CONTINUES. -- CONTINUES DEVELOPMENT OF THE PLUM CREEK TRAIL RELATED TO INTERACTIVE AND INTERPRETIVE SIGNAGE VALUES AT $305,000. TEN, AUTHORIZE THE BAIL BOND, PURCHASE ONE DEL LATITUDE 5400 LAPTOP WITH ACCESSORIES FOR THE BAIL BOND ASSISTANT VALUED AT

$1,232.11 AND AMEND THE BUDGET ACCORDINGLY. >> SO MOVED.

>> SECOND. >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

ANY COMMENTS? >> JUDGE, I'LL JUST SAY THAT I'M HAPPY TO SUPPORT THE KYLE TRAIL SYSTEM. IT'S A WONDERFUL -- I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY WITH COUNCIL MEMBER RIZZO WHO TOOK ME OUT THERE. IT'S A WONDERFUL TRAIL SYSTEM, AND THEY HAVE DONE A GREAT JOB

AND I'M JUST HAPPY TO SUPPORT THEIR EFFORTS. >> THANK YOU.

PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. >> COMMISSIONER SHELL. >> YES.

>> COMMISSIONER JONES. >> YES. >> COMMISSIONER SMITH.

>> YES. >> COMMISSIONER INGALSBE. >> YES.

>> AND JUDGE BECERRA. >> YES. PLEASE OPEN NUMBER 11.

[11. Authorize payment to Veracity Aviation in the amount of $560.00 and King Feed & Hardware in the amount of $782.80 for the Feral Hog Abatement Grant Program in which no purchase order was issued as required per County Purchasing Policy. JONES/T.CRUMLEY]

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>> 11, AUTHORIZE PAYMENT TO VERACITY AVIATION IN THE AMOUNT OF $560 AND KINGSPEED HARDWARE IN THE AMOUNT OF $782.80 FOR THE FERAL HOG ABATEMENT GRANT PROGRAM IN WHICH NO PURCHASE

ORDER WAS ISSUED AS REQUIRED PER COUNTY PURCHASING POLICY. >> SO MOVED.

>> WE HAVE ONE PERSON SIGNED UP TO SPEAK. MR. DAN LYON.

>> THANK YOU JUDGE BECERRA THIS MIGHT NOT BE QUITE AS INVOLVED AS THE LAW AS NOW GETTING DOWN IN THE MONTH WITH THE HOGS -- MUD WITH THE HOGS. BUT I READ EARLIER IN MY PUBLIC STATEMENT THAT VERACITY AVIATION PAID $400 AND FERAL HOG PAID $520 PROGRAM.

ONCE AGAIN I COME BEFORE THE COURT AND ASK WHAT IS THE AMOUNT OF MONEY SPENT FOR HOGS REMOVED FROM HAYS COUNTY? THERE'S GOT TO BE A NUMBER. AND I'LL BET YOU THAT IT'S QUITE A BIT $2.50 FOR A CHOG IS WHAT Y'ALL WERE PAYING WHEN WE HAVE THE BOUNTY FOR EACH INDIVIDUAL TO BRING THE TAILS IN. AND THE FACT HAD SUPPOSEDLY ONLY ABOT 100 TAILS WERE BROUGHT IN MEANS, YOU KNOW, AT LEAST WE'RE ALL PROBABLY ON PAR WITH CALDWELL.

I THINK WE'VE GOT MORE HOGS RUNNING AROUND IN HAYS COUNTY THAN CALDWELL AND THEY BROUGHT THIS 5,000 TAILS, SO THAT'S LIKE 4900 YOU GOT FOR FREE. SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PENNIES THAT Y'ALL WERE PAYING. Y'ALL WERE PAYING FOR THE 100 TO BRING IT HAD JUST THE TAIL.

NOW IT WOULD MAKE SENSE THAT IF YOU WANTED HUNDREDS TO BRING -- HUNTERS TO BRING IN TAILS WOULD YOU HAVE TO BRING THEM INTO THE COURTHOUSE HERE. IT JUST MAKES SENSE.

NOBODY KNOWS THE AGRICULTURAL EXTENSION OFFICE IS. THAT IS ONE OF THE REASONS THAT YOUR BOUNTY PROGRAM FAILED. BUT, YOU KNOW, I'M JUST GUESSING AND THIS IS MY OPINION.

THAT Y'ALL WANTED THAT PROGRAM TO FAIL SO YOU COULD HAND THE MONEY TO THIS OTHER GROUP WHICH IS CHARGING US. FOLLOW OUR FARM FOR EACH INDIVIDUAL HOG THAT'S EITHER KILLED OR REMOVED. AND YET YOU STILL DO IT, AND THEN YOU SAY OH, WE'RE TRYING TO SAVE MONEY. WELL THAT'S NONSENSE. YOU KNOW IT.

I KNOW IT. ALL YOU'RE DOING IS HOLDING US OVER A BARREL AND PICKING OUR POCKET. WELL IN A FIGURATIVE SENSE. LET'S PUT IT THAT WAY.

YOU DO IT EVEN WORSE BECAUSE WE DON'T PAY UP. YOU WILL SEND PEOPLE WITH GUNS TO COME AND PHYSICALLY REMOVE US FROM OUR PROPERTY. AND IF WE DON'T WANT TO LEAVE, THEY WILL SHOOT US DEAD. SO I WAS ALWAYS TAUGHT THAT'S TYRANNY, BUT MAYBE Y'ALL HAVE ANOTHER WORD FOR IT. BUT I DON'T WANT TO HEAR IT ANYWAY BUT THANKS A LOT.

>> THANK YOU, SIR. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. COMMISSIONER JONES, ANY UPDATES

THE CONVERSATION? >> YEAH. >> DO YOU KNOW HOW MUCH WE'RE

PAYING PER HOG AT THIS POINT FOR REMOVAL? >> NO, WE DON'T HAVE THE NUMBER

OF HOGS BEING REMOVED YET. >> FROM THE HISTORICAL FROM LAST EAR'S.

>> I DON'T HAVE THAT. >> DO WE KNOW? MR. KENNEDY, DO WE KNOW SOME OF THOSE POINTS THAT WERE BROUGHT UP? THEY ARE GOOD QUESTIONS.

THERE ARE SOME GOOD QUESTIONS IN THERE AND I WAS JUST CURIOUS IF WE HAD A DIRECTION ON WHERE WE CAN GET THAT PER HOG HEAD COUNT OF WHAT IT COST US LAST YEAR. AS AN APPROXIMATION EVEN.

>> I DON'T HAVE THOSE NUMBERS. PERHAPS THE AUDITORS OFFICE. I KNOW WE HAD ALSO TALKED LAST TIME THIS CAME UP ABOUT PUTTING IN THE PROGRAM THE PROGRAM THAT WAS DESCRIBED ABOUT TAIL COLLECTIONS BUT PERSONALLY I DON'T KNOW ABOUT HAVING THEM DLOIFERD THE WORD COURTHOUSE.

SINCE THIS OWE. [LAUGHING] MY BRIDGE IS CALL.

SO I WILL MAKE A COMMITMENT TO GET THIS INFORMATION BACK TO YOU, MR. LYON SO THAT WE KNOW MORE OF WHAT IS GOING ON AND WHAT IT'S ACTUALLY COSTING US OR WHAT IT COST US LAST YEAR SO WE CAN MAKE THE MOST EDUCATED AND FISCALLY CONSERVATIVE DECISION FOR THE ABATEMENT.

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>> COMMISSIONER JONES IN A YES. >> COMMISSIONER SHELL. >> YES COMMISSIONER SMITH.

>> COMMISSIONER INGALSBE. >> YES, WILL YOU PLEASE OPEN NUMBER 36.

[36. Discussion and possible action to authorize the County Judge to execute a Professional Services Agreement (PSA) between Hays County and Larry J Foster, Texas Professional Inspector #3 to provide Texas Real Estate Commission (TREC) Inspections for the HUD funded Community Development Block Grant Disaster Relief (CDBG-DR) Housing Program. JONES/T.CRUMLEY]

IF YOU'LL HANG ON A SECOND. OF COURSE. >> 36 36.

DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION TO AUTHORIZE THE COUNTY JUDGE TO EXECUTE A PROFESSIONAL SERVICES AGREEMENT BETWEEN HAYS COUNTY AND LARRY J. FOSTER TEXAS PROFESSIONAL INSPECTOR NUMBER THREE TO PROVIDE TEXAS REAL ESTATE COMMISSION INFECTIONS FOR THE HUD FUNDED COMMUNITY

DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT DISASTER RELIEF HOUSING PROGRAM. >> SO MOVED.

>> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ANY COMMENTS.

>> THIS IS JUST FOR THE BLOCK GRANT STATED SOME OVERSIGHT. >> THANK YOU.

PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. >> COMMISSIONER INGALSBE. >> YES.

>> COMMISSIONER SMITH. >> YES. >> COMMISSIONER JONES.

>> YES. >> COMMISSIONER SHELL. >> YES.

>> JUDGE BECERRA. >> YES. PLEASE OPEN 37.

[37. Discussion and possible action to authorize the County Judge to execute the contract between Hays County and Langford Community Management Services, LLC. for RFP 2020-P14 CDBG Mitigation Funding. SHELL/T.CRUMLEY 38 446-447 Discussion and possible action to discuss constituent's concern about elections requirements. BECERRA/CARDENAS 39 448-449 1:00p.m. - Hold a public hearing on the FY 2021 proposed tax increase. BECERRA]

>> 37, DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO AUTHORIZE THE COUNTY JUDGE TO EXECUTE THE CONTRACT BETWEEN HAYS COUNTY AND LANGFORD COMMUNITY MANAGEMENT SERVICES LLC FOR RFP 2020-P14 CDBG

MITIGATION FUNDING. >> SO MOVED. MOTION AND A SECOND.

ARE THERE ANY COMMENTS? >> JUDGE SINCE THE COMPANY WAS SELECT TWOTED WEEKS AGO AND THIS

IS THE CONTRACT. >> THANK YOU. -- TWO WEEKS AGO.

JUST FOR THOSE WATCHING FOLLOWING ALONG, I PICK THROUGH THE AGENDA BASED ON THE ASKS AND THE NEEDS FOR KEEPING PEOPLE MOVING IN EFFICIENT MANNER. PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

>> COMMISSIONER INGALSBE. >> YES. >> COMMISSIONER SHELL.

>> YES. >> COMMISSIONER SMITH. >> YES.

>> COMMISSIONER JONES. >> YES. >> JUDGE BECERRA.

>> YES. MISS CRUMLEY, YOU ARE FREE TO GO.

YOU'RE WELCOME. PLEASE OPEN NUMBER 3. >> 31, DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE

[31. Discussion and possible action to adopt an order authorizing the issuance of one or more series of “Hays County, Texas Limited Tax Refunding Bonds”; levying an annual ad valorem tax, within the limitations prescribed by law, for the payment of the Bonds; prescribing the form, terms, conditions, and resolving other matters incident and related to the issuance, sale, and delivery of the Bonds; delegating authority to certain County officials and County staff to execute certain documents related to the sale of the Bonds; and authorizing the execution of an Escrow Agreement and a Paying Agent/Registrar Agreement. JONES/SHELL/VILLARREAL-ALONZO]

AGREEMENT. >> IS MOVED. >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. AND WE HAVE A SPEAKER. IF YOU'LL PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME

AND TITLE FOR THE WEEKEND. >> THANK YOU, JUDGE COMMISSIONER DAN WHITE MILL WE ARE SPECIALIZED PUBLIC FINANCIAL ADVISER TO THE COUNTY. THIS IS THE OPPORTUNITY I BRIEFED YOU ON A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO. ALMOST A MONTH AGO NOW.

THERE ARE THREE OUTSTANDING ISSUES THE COUNTY HAS. THERE IS A 2012 ISSUE, A 2013 ISSUE AS WELL AS A 2013 PASS THROUGH REVENUE ISSUE. THOSE CARRYING INTEREST RATES BETWEEN 3.1 AND 5% WHICH AT TIME WAS OUTSTANDING. WE'RE ESTIMATING YOU WILL SELL NEW BONDS TO REFINANCING THE DEBT AT AN INTEREST RATE SOMEWHERE AROUND 2%.

THAT INTRODUCES A SAVINGS OF $3.29 MILLION AND THE COST TO GO OUT AND SELL THE NEW BONDS AND GET NEW BONDS RATED. THIS IS A TAXABLE SERIES. RATES ARE SO LOW THAT WE CAN LEGALLY GO OUT AND SELL TAXABLE BONDS TO PAY OFF THE TAXES AND BONDS AT LOWER RATES.

THAT'S KIND OF CRAZY HOW LOW RATES ARE IN MY ALMOST 30 YEARS OF DOING THIS I THINK I'VE SEEN DIFFERENT ONES WE HAVE HAD THAT OPPORTUNITY. SO THE PLAN WOULD BE TO OVER THE NEXT MONTH AND A HALF GET BOND RATINGS UPDATED, GO TO THE MARKET, SELL BONDS THROUGH THIS

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BUT WE SET THOSE PARAMETERS AS LONG AS THE MARKET MOVES FORWARD.

THE MARKET MOVES IT AWAY WE PUT IT ON THE SHELF AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE.

ONE THING TO NOTE THE PASS-THROUGH REVENUE FEES, YOU HAVE A REPAYMENT THAT -- FUNDED PROJECTS AND YOU HAD THE PRINCIPLE INTEREST REQUIREMENTS. WHEN WE REFINANCED THESE DOWN YOU DON'T SHARE THE SAVINGS OR BENEFIT BACK THE STATE. IT IS BASICALLY TO THE COUNTY THAT'S PART OF THE AGREEMENT AND YOU WILL HAVE THOSE COSTS ASSOCIATED THOSE PROJECTS.

>> THAT ALSO INCLUDES THE COST OF THOSE PROJECTS THEY WERE UNDERNEATH BELOW THAT PAYMENT.

THEY STILL PAID THAT. >> ABSOLUTELY. IT'S A WAY TO MOVE THINGS ALONG WITH. THAT QUESTIONS ON BOND ISSUANCE TIME FRAME.

HOPEFULLY NEAR THE END OF OCTOBER WE WILL BE LOOKING WE HAVE THE PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION THAT WE WILL BE SENSITIVE TO SOME BONDS THAT WEEK, BUT WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO WORK THROUGH

THOSE AND GET IT TO BHASHGHT IT MAKES SENSE. >> I WANT TO TAKE A -- TO MARKET

WHEN IT MAKES SENSE. >> I WANT TO TAKE A TINY MOMENT. THIS IS ALL A CONFUSING GAME FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE AND I USE THE GAME WORD LIGHTLY. WHAT COMMISSIONER JONES JUST SAID WAS AND WHAT YOU SUPPORTED FOR AN EXAMPLE, FOR THE VIEWING PUBLIC.

IF A ROAD PROJECT COSTS $10 MILLION, THEN TECH STOCKS SAYS WE'LL PAY YOU $10 MILLION FOR IT AND PASS THROUGH FINANCING. THE DOWNFALL OF THAT MECHANISM IS THAT DEBT IS ON OUR BOOKS.

BUT WHAT YOU HAD JUST SAID WAS IF WE MANAGE THROUGH WHATEVER TO GET THAT PROJECT DOWN A MILLION AND NOW IT'S A 9 MILLION PROJECT TO COMPLETION, NOW WE WILL STILL GET THE $10 MILLION DOLLAR PRICE POINT INTEREST TECHS DOT. THROUGH THAT SAVINGS YOU DESCRIBED WE MAKE THAT AS A BENEFIT. ND WHAT THE COMMISSIONER HAS JUST ADDED TO THAT WAS IF WE -- YOUR DESCRIPTION WAS THROUGH FINANCIAL ADJUSTMENTS. BUT LIKE INTEREST RATES, ETC.

BUT YOURS TO ADD TO IT ADD ICING TO THE ICING IS SIMPLY TO SAY AND IF WEING IN DOWNTH HALF A MILLION DOLLARS BECAUSE OF GOOD EFFECTIVE EFFICIENT ENGINEERING FOR EXAMPLE, THEN THAT'S ADDITIONAL SAVINGS FOR US SO I'VE HEARD TWO DIFFERENT PLACES WHERE WE CAN RAECHT DOWN ROAD PROJECTS TO. ME THAT'S VERY REFRESHING TO HEAR UNDER THE CURRENT SITUATION

-- RATCHET DOWN. >> DAN, CAN YOU REMIND US BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE THAT SHEET

IN FRONT OF ME WHAT THE AMOUNTS ARE FOR THOSE. >> THREE SERIES TOTAL JUST OVER $32.4 MILLION THAT WE'RE REFINANCING. THE SAVINGS THAT WILL BE PRODUCED BASED ON CURRENT ESTIMATES IS A PRESENT VALUE SAVINGS OF $3.29 MILLION OR GROSS SAVINGS OF JUST OVER $4 MILLION. SO HOW THAT PLAYS OUT YOU'RE NOTEDING YOUR DEBT. YOU'RE BASICALLY BETWEEN -- NOT EXTENDING YOUR DEBT.

BASICALLY BETWEEN 2032 AND 2038 YOU'LL BE SAVING AROUND $240,000 PER YEAR IN DEBT SERVICE.

>> THANK YOU. >> COMMISSIONERS, ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS?

OK. THANK YOU, SIR. >> MARISOL, DO YOU NEED ANYTHING ELSE ON THIS AGENDA ITEM? YOUR NAME IS ON IT. THAT'S WHY I ASK.

>> NO, JUDGE. IT'S JUST PART OF A PROCESS BY THE COURT -- WORK OUR FINANCIAL

ADVISER TO GET READY AND PREPARED FOR THE -- [INAUDIBLE] >> SO DO WE NEED A MOTION? A VOTE? YES? PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

>> COMMISSIONER INGALSBE. >> YES. >> COMMISSIONER JONES.

>> YES. >> COMMISSIONER SHELL. >> YES.

>> COMMISSIONER SMITH. >> JUDGE BECERRA. >> YES.

WILL YOU PLEASE OPEN AGENDA ITEMS 12-16. >> 12, AUTHORIZE THE INFORMATION

[Items 12 - 16]

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14, AMEND THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE OPERATING BUDGET FOR NEED VEHICLE REPAIRS IN WHICH $4,103 INSURANCE PROCEEDS WERE RECEIVED 15 AUTHORIZE PAYMENTS TO SHERIFF'S OFFICE FOR WIMBERLEY TOWING COMPANY TOTALLING $931 AND $80 WHERE NO PURCHASE ORDER WAS IN PLACE FOR THE COUNTY POLICY. 16, AUTHORIZE THE CONSTABLE PRECINCT FIVE OFFICE TO PURCHASE TWO NEW LIAR-XLRC STALKER RADARS VALUED AT $4990 AND AMEND THE BUDGET ACCORDINGLY.

>> SO MOVED. >> SECOND. ANY COMMENTS?

PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. >> COMMISSIONER SHELL. >> YES.

>> COMMISSIONER INGALSBE. >> YES. >> COMMISSIONER SMITH.

>> YES. >> COMMISSIONER JONES. >> JUDGE BECERRA.

>> YES. PLEASE OPEN 17-20. >> 17, AUTHORIZE OR APPROVE THE

[Items 17 - 20]

18, AUTHORIZE ON SITE SEWAGE FACILITY FOR A NEW AUTO BODY SHOP LOCATED AT 1321 HIGH ROAD, KYLE, TEXAS. 19, AUTHORIZE THE CONSTABLE PRECINCT ONE OFFICE TO PURCHASE ONE NEW SURFACE PRO LAPTOP AND ONE NEW LCRA-XG-25P HAND HELD RADIO TOTAL VALUE OF $4,262 AND AMEND THE BUDGET ACCORDINGLY. 20, AUTHORIZE THE COUNTY JUDGE TO EXECUTE A THIRD AMENDED AND RESTATED DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY OF SAN MARCOS, HAYS COUNTY AND LAZY OCCASION RANCH, LP IN CONNECTION WITH THE LA CIMA VEMENT AND ADDITION OF APPROXIMATELY 130 ACRES INTO THE

AREA COVERED BY THE AGREEMENT OF THE. >> SO MOVED.

>> MOTION AND A SECOND. ANY COMMENTS, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

>> COMMISSIONER SHELL. >> YES. >> COMMISSIONER SMITH.

>> YES. >> COMMISSIONER JONES. >> YES.

>> COMMISSIONER INGALSBE. >> YES. >> JUDGE BECERRA.

>> YES. PLEASE OPEN 21-23. >> 21, IMPROVE SPECIFICATIONS

[Items 21 - 23]

23, AUTHORIZE ON SITE SEWAGE FACILITY -- ON-SITE SEWAGE FACILITY PERMIT FOR OFFICE WAREHOUSE BUILDING SUITE 300 LOCATED AT 14155 HIGHWAY 290 WEST AUSTIN, TEXAS.

>> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ANY COMMENTS?

>> JUDGE, ON 21 THOSE TRACKER COUNTERS ARE HOW WE GET -- THAT'S A GOOD THING.

WE SHOULD SEE THOSE ON THE 1626 SHORTLY. >> OH, WHAT A BEAUTIFUL ROAD THAT IS. PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. YES.

>> COMMISSIONER JONES. >> YES. >> COMMISSIONER SHELL.

>> YES. >> COMMISSIONER SMITH. >> YES.

>> COMMISSIONER INGALSBE. >> YES. >> JUDGE BECERRA.

>> YES PLEASE OPEN 24. >> 24, PLEASE DISCUSS POSSIBLE ACTION THE COUNTY JUDGE TO

[24. Discussion and possible action to authorize the County Judge to execute a Professional Services Agreement between Hays County and Binkley and Barfield, Inc. to provide Utility Coordination services for US 290 West at Trautwein Road Intersection project in Precinct 4 as part of the Road Bond Program. SMITH/BORCHERDING]

PROJECT AT PRECINCT FOUR AS PART OF THE ROAD BOND PROGRAM. >> SECOND.

>> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. COMMISSIONER.

>> JUDGE, THIS IS THE PART OF THE 116 ROAD THAT IS THE INTERSECTION OF 290 AND FRONT LINE. WE WERE FOR THE GNAT AT THE TIME TO GET AN AFA -- [INAUDIBLE] 2 1/2 MONTHS AGO TO GO TO BID WITH A TEMPORARY SIGNAL ARE THAT THIS WOULD COORDINATE UTILITIES

IN OVERALL STRUCTURE AT INTERSECTION. >> OK.

ANY QUESTIONS? PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. >> COMMISSIONER JONES.

>> YES. >> COMMISSIONER INGALSBE. >> YES.

>> COMMISSIONER SHELL. >> YES. >> COMMISSIONER SMITH.

>> YES. >> JUDGE BECERRA. >> YES.

[Additional Item]

ABSOLUTELY WONDERFUL THANK YOU FOR THAT. IF YOU WILL PLEASE OPEN.

[01:00:03]

>> I'M SORRY? >> WELCOME HOME. >> OH, YES ABSOLUTELY.

PLEASE OPEN NUMBER 25. >> NUMBER 25, DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO AUTHORIZE THE

[25. Discussion and possible action to authorize the County Judge to execute a Contract Amendment No. 1 to a contract between Hays County and Frank Surveying Company, Inc., dba FSC, Inc. for the US 290 West at Henly Loop and Martin Road project as part of the 2016 Road Bond Program. SMITH/BORCHERDING]

>> SO MOVED. >> SECOND. >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A

SECOND. COMMENTS. >> THANKS, JUDGE.

THIS IS PART OF THE 2016 ROAD BOND. IN THE PLANNING AND PROCESS STAGE FOR SURVEYING THIS THIS PROJECT. [INAUDIBLE]

>> BEAUTIFUL. >> PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. >> COMMISSIONER INGALSBE.

>> YES. >> COMMISSIONER SHELL. >> YES.

>> COMMISSIONER JONES. >> YES. >> COMMISSIONER SMITH.

>> YES. >> JUDGE BECERRA. >> YES.

[26. Discussion and possible action to authorize the County Judge to execute a Professional Services Agreement/Contract between Hays County and Cobb, Fendley & Associates, Inc. to provide Rightof- Way Acquisition services for RM 967 Safety Improvements project in Precinct 2 as part of the Road Bond Program. JONES/BORCHERDING]

PLEASE OPEN 26. >> 26, DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION TO AUTHORIZE THE COUNTY JUDGE TO EXECUTE A PROFESSIONAL SERVICES AGREEMENT AND CONTRACT BETWEEN HAYS COUNTY AND COBB FENDLEY ASSOCIATES INC. TO PROVIDE RIGHT OF WAY ACQUISITION SERVICES FOR RM 967 SAFETY

PRUSMTS PROJECT IN PRECINCT 2 AS PART OF THE ROAD BOND PROGRAM. >> SO MOVED.

>> SECOND. >> MOTION AND A SECOND. COMMISSIONER JONES.

>> JUDGE, THIS IS THE PROJECT ON 67 FOR SAFETY IMPROVEMENTS FROM JOHNSON HIGH SCHOOL BACK TO THE RANCH AND TURN LANES. WE DID GET SOME NEWS THIS IS THE PROJECT WE HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH TEXDOK FOR TWO YEARS AND THEY MAY HAVE AN EFFECT ON THE SALAMANDERS IN THE CREEK SO WE'RE GOING TO BE LATE SIX OR SEVEN MONTHS ON THIS PROJECT. NOT HAPPENTY TOOK THEM TWO YEARS

TO TELL US THAT. WE'LL MAKE IT WORK. >> HOW UNFORTUNATE, BUT THOSE SALAMANDERS ARE IMPORTANT. WE GOT TO GET LITTLE WHITE C CANES.

WHITE SALAMANDER. BAD JOKE. ANYWAY, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

>> COMMISSIONER INGALSBE. >> YES. >> COMMISSIONER SMITH.

>> YES. >> COMMISSIONER JONES. >> YES.

>> COMMISSIONER SHELL. >> YES. >> JUDGE BECERRA.

[27. Discussion and possible action to authorize the County Judge to execute a Supplemental #5 to the Professional Services Agreement (PSA) between Hays County and Johnson, Mirmiran, and Thompson, Inc. (JMT) for FM 110 (SH80 to FM621) Middle as part of the Hays County/TxDOT Partnership Program. INGALSBE/BORCHERDING]

PLEASE OPEN 27. >> 27 DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION TO AUTHORIZE THE COUNTY JUDGE TO EXECUTE A SUPPLEMENTAL NUMBER FIVE TO THE PROFESSIONAL SERVICES AGREEMENT BETWEEN HAYS COUNTY AND JOHNSON MIMIRAN AND THOMPSON INC. FOR FM-110 MIDDLE AS PART OF THE HAYS COUNTY TXDOT

PARTNERSHIP PROGRAM. >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

>> JUDGE, THANK YOU. THIS IS THE FINAL THING WE NEED TO ADDRESS THE MITIGATION ENVIRONMENTS IN THE ASSESSMENT. THERE WERE SOME MISSILES THAT WERE LOCATED AND WE HAVE TO

MITIGATE THAT. >> SALAMANDERS TO MISSILES. >> WE'RE SURROUNDED.

PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. >> COMMISSIONER SMITH. >> YES.

>> COMMISSIONER SHELL. >> YES. >> COMMISSIONER JONES.

>> YES. >> COMMISSIONER INGALSBE. >> YES.

>> JUDGE BECERRA. >> YES. PLEASE OPEN 28.

[28. Discussion and possible action to authorize the County Judge to execute a Professional Services Agreement/Contract between Hays County and Binkley and Barfield, Inc. to provide Utility Coordination services for RM 12 at RM 3237 Intersection Improvements project in Precinct 3 as part of the Road Bond Program. SHELL/BORCHERDING]

>> 28 POSSIBLE ACTION AND DISCUSSION TO AUTHORIZE THE COUNTY JUDGE TO EXECUTE A PROFESSIONAL SERVICES AGREEMENT BETWEEN HAYS COUNTY AND BINGELY AND BARFIELD INC. TO PROVIDE UTILITY COORDINATION SERVICES FOR RM 12 AT RM 3237 INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENTS

PROJECT INCREASING FREE AS PARTS OF THE ROAD BOND PROGRAM. >> SO MOVED.

>> SECOND. >> COMMISSIONER? >> THANK YOU, JUDGE THIS.

PROJECT IS THE INTERSECTION OF RANCH ROAD 12, 3237 WHEN YOU GET INTO WIMBERLEY AND CROSS THE BLANCO RIVER BRIDGE. SIMILAR ITEM NUMBER 24, THIS COMPANY WAS SELECTED THROUGH AN

RFQ PROCESS. >> THANK YOU. PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

>> COMMISSIONER SMITH. >> YES. >> COMMISSIONER JONES.

>> YES. >> COMMISSIONER INGALSBE. >> YES.

>> COMMISSIONER SHELL. >> YES. >> JUDGE BECERRA.

>> YES. PLEASE OPEN 29. >> 9, PLN-1466-PC CALL FOR A

[29. PLN-1466-PC; Call for a public hearing on September 22nd, 2020 to discuss final plat approval of the Replat of Lots 11 & 12, Hurlbut Ranch East Subdivision. SMITH/PACHECO]

AND 12 HURLBUT RANCH EAST SUBDID I SFLITION SO MOVED. >> SECOND.

>> COMMISSIONER COMMENTS? -- SUBDIVISION. >> THIS IS JUST A STATUTORY REQUIREMENT THAT WE NEED TO FOLLOW THROUGH WITH A PUBLIC HEARING.

THEY ARE COMBINING TWO VERY LARGE WALLS OUT IN CULVERT RANCH PRIVATE WELLS -- [INAUDIBLE]

>> OK THANK YOU VERY MUCH. IF THERE ARE NO COMMENTS COMMENTS PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

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>> COMMISSIONER JONES. >> COMMISSIONER SNOOIG YES. >> COMMISSIONER YES JUDGE

[30. Discussion and possible action to establish Five (5) Temporary Election Workers for a three-week period effective September 16, 2020 to assist with Ballot by Mail requests utilizing the CARES HAVA Funding. SMITH/ANDERSON]

BECERRA. >> PLEASE OPEN NUMBER 30. >> NUMBER 30, DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO ESTABLISH FIVE TEMPORARY ELECTION WORKERS FOR A THREE-WEEK PERIOD EFFECTIVE SEPTEMBER 16TH, 2020 TO ASSIST WITH BALLOT BY MAIL REQUESTS UTILIZING THE CARES

HAVA VOTE ACT FUNDING. >> SO MOVED. >> SECOND.

>> WE HAVE A MOTION ANDY IS SECOND. MISS ANDERSON PLEASE STATE YOUR

NAME FOR THE RECORD. >> JENNIFER ANDERSON HAYS COUNTY ELECTIONS ADMINISTRATOR.

THIS IS JUST FIVE TEMPORARY WORKERS TO HELP US TO FOLD BALLOTS AND FILL ENVELOPES.

WE'RE RIGHT BAT 9400, SO WE'RE REACHING OUR 10,000 PROJECTED BALLOT BY MAIL THAT WE THOUGHT WE WOULD. SINCE WE'RE NOT USING A MAIL BALLOT SERVICE WE'RE GOING TO DO THOSE INHOUSE. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THE FIVE TEMPORARY WORKERS HELP WITH THAT

AND IT IS COVERED IN THE FUNDING. >> BEAUTIFUL.

I KNOW WHAT IT MEANS BUT IF YOU'LL SAY IT FOR THE AUDIENCE HAVA?

>> HELP AMERICA VOTE ACT. >> THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS FOR MISS ANDERSON?

>> I JUST -- I WANTED TO SAY THANKS FOR KIND OF BEING FORWARD LOOKING WHENEVER WE WERE HIT WITH THE ISSUES EARLIER. I APPRECIATE YOU COMING FORWARD WITH SOMETHING AND THAT'S THE REASON THAT I WAS WILLING TO SPONSOR IT TO TRY TO MAKE SURE WE DO IT THE RIGHT WAY AND MAKE

SURE YOU GET THE HELP YOU NEED. >> THANK YOU. >> JUDGE?

>> YES, MA'AM. >> JENNIFER, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ALL YOU DO.

I JUST WANTED TO I HOPE IT'S OK TO BRING THIS UP BECAUSE IT'S BALLOT BY MAIL.

I KNOW WE HAD TALKED ABOUT A DROP BOX AND I KNOW WE SPOKE LAST WEEK AND I KNOW THAT YOU ARE CONSIDERING TAKING AN ACTION TO KIND OF REPLACE THAT AND CAN YOU EXPLAIN WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING

AT DOING? >> SURE. SO WITH YOUR QD TO A DROPOFF POINT AT THE GOVERNMENT -- SO WITH YOUR REQUEST TO HAVE A DROPOFF POINT AT THE GOVERNMENT CENTER WHERE VOTERS DON'T HAVE TO COME THROUGH SECURITY AND ENTER THE GENERAL PUBLIC, WE HAVE DECIDED TO OPEN THE DOOR WE USE FOR THE MAIN POLLING LOCATION.

WE'LL GO AHEAD AND OPEN THAT, AS SOON AS WE PROCESS BALLOTS SO VOTERS CAN START BRINGING IN THROUGH THERE. ALSO, WE'RE WORK WITH COUNTYWIDE OPERATIONS TO GET A PARKING SPACE OR TWO RIGHT THERE UP FRONT WHERE VOTERS CAN PARK AND BRING THOSE, HAND DELIVER THOSE

BALLOTS THROUGH THE DOOR. >> OK. SO THIS WILL BE AVAILABLE IN

SEPTEMBER? >> YES. WE WILL TEST THE BALLOTS SEPTEMBER 6TH -- 16TH. AS SOON AS WE TEST THEM AND MAKE SURE WE HAVE NO CORRECTIONS

WE'LL MAKE SURE WE MAIL THOSE BALLOTS OFF. >> JUDGE I WANTED TO THANK JENNIFER EVEN THOUGH IS NOT A DROP BOX I THINK IS A GOOD START TO HAVING THE DOORS OPEN.

THEY CAN HAND-DELIVER THEIR BALLOT. THEY CAN DO THAT NOW.

BUT IT'S PROVIDING ANOTHER LOCATION FOR HOME GO IN THROUGH TO AVOID THE PUBLIC, TO AVOID SECURITY, AND MAYBE BE MORE SECURE AND HELP PEOPLE FEEL BETTER ABOUT WHAT THEY ARE DOING. JENNIFER, I JESS JUST ONE OTHER THING AND I KNOW WE TALKED ABOUT THIS. IF WE CAN JUST GET A SIGN INDICATING CLEARLY VISIBLE FOR THE FOLKS THAT WANT TO DROP OFF THEIR BALLOTS SO SWREK THAT DOOR MARKED.

>> YES. I WILL NOTIFY TAMMY ON THAT ALSO.

>> COMMISSIONER THANK YOU FOR THAT INITIATIVE. I KNOW THAT BUILDING SITS IN YOUR PRECINCT AND I REMEMBER HEARING AT LEAST ONE OTHER COMMISSIONER REPORTING THAT IDEA AND INITIATIVE YOU HAVE SHOWN HERE THIS MORNING AND I WAS WONDERING WHAT CAN WE DO TO HAVE THE NAME IS THE OTHER PRECINCT OFFICES? BECAUSE I KNOW THAT NEED TO BE

STAFFED. SO -- >> RIGHT.

WE CAN'T. I KNOW TRAVIS COUNTYED SOME OSH EXCUSE ME COUNTY CLERK COUNT -- COUNTY AND SOME OTHER EXCUSE ME -- COUNTY CLERK OFFICES ARE DOING THAT IN OTHER PRECINCTS.

WE HAVE ONLY ONE COUNTY OFFICE AND THAT IS LOCATED IN THE GOVERNMENT CENTER.

>> THAT WAY IT'S CLEAR TO EVERYONE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. >> YES I WILL, BUT I ALSO HAVE ABOUT SIX PUBLIC COMMENTS

RELATED TO DROP BOXES. WOULD YOU LIKE ME IT READ THOSE? >> OH, SURE.

I THOUGHT THEY WENT TO A DIFFERENT AGENDA ITEM. YES, MA'AM.

PLEASE DO. >> I'LL DO THAT AND THEN TAKE ROLL?

>> IT'S WHATEVER YOU WANT. >> OK. SO THE FIRST IS FROM PATRICIA ALBA WHO WRITES, TO EASE THE BURDEN OF USPS I'M REQUESTING THAT THE HAYS COUNTY COMMISSIONERS COURT AUTHORIZE THE HAYS COUNTY ELECTION CLERK TO ESTABLISH ONE OR MORE DRIVETHROUGH AREAS FOR DELIVERY OF MAIL-IN BALLOTS FOR THE NOVEMBER 2020 ELECTION.

>>? >> I'M SORRY? >> I THINK YOU'RE RIGHT.

LITERALLY MY EYE ON POSTED ELECTION WORKERS I THINK THEY HAVE TO BE READ --

>> THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT. >> DR. CARDENAS IT'S BEING ASKED WE READ THAT FOR I THINK IT'S

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AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 38? >> 38. >> MINE IS JUST POSTED FOR

ELECTION WORKERS SO I THINK IT WOULDN'T QUALIFY. >> OK THAT'S FINE.

>> LET'S CALL ROLL FOR THIS ONE. >> OK WILL DO. COMMISSIONER INGALSBE.

>> YES. >> COMMISSIONER JONES. >> YES.

>> COMMISSIONER SHELL. >> YES. >> COMMISSIONER SMITH.

>> YES. >> AND JUDGE BECERRA. >> YES.

[32. Discussion and possible action to award RFP 2020-P08 Election Form Printing Services to AMG Printing and authorize staff and General Counsel to negotiate a contract. BECERRA/ANDERSON]

PLEASE OPEN 32. >> 32 DISCUSS POSSIBLE ACTION TO RFP 2020-P 08 TO ELECTION FORM PRINTING SERVICES TO AMG PRINTING AND AUTHORIZE STAFF AND GENERAL COUNSEL TO NEGOTIATE A

CONTRACT. >> SO MOVED. >> SECOND.

>> ANY COMMENTS? I LIKE THE WAY THE AGENDA IS WRIT ENSELF-SCOMPLAN FOR THE PERFECT. -- WRITTEN, SELF-EXPLANATORY. PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

>> COMMISSIONER JONES. >> YES. >> COMMISSIONER SNOOIG YES.

>> COMMISSIONER SMITH. >> AND JUDGE BECERRA. >> YES.

[33. Discussion and possible action to award RFP 2020-P12 Customer Management Queuing System to NEMO-Q and authorize staff and General Counsel to negotiate a contract. BECERRA/RICHEY]

PLEASE OPEN NUMBER 33. >> 3 3,. >> DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION TO AWARD RFP 2020-P12 CUSTOMER MANAGEMENT CURING SYSTEM TO NEMO-Q TO AUTHORIZE STAFF AND

GENERAL COUNSEL TO NEGOTIATE A CONTRACT. >> SO MOVED.

>> SECOND. >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

MISS RICHIE IS IN THE HOUSE. WOULD YOU BE INTERESTED IN GIVING US A SNIPPET BACKGROUND OR NOT NECESSARY? FOR THE VIEWING AUDIENCE, WHO DOESN'T HAVE BACKUP WHAT'S BEING

DISCUSSED. >> I'LL BE VERY BRIEF. I'M BRITTANY EAST COUNTY TREASURY. THANK YOU FOR RESTHRUG ITEM FOR ME TODAY.

WE REVIEWED -- REVIEWING THIS ITEM. WE REVIEWED FIVE COMPANIES THIS CAME FORWARD TO US SQ VIEWING SYSTEM WHICH IS BASICALLY A WAY FOR PEOPLE TO MANAGE THEIR SERVICES WITHOUT HAVING TO STAND IN LINE PHYSICALLY, AND THE MAIN IDEA BEHIND THIS WAS TO HAVE SOMETHING THAT PEOPLE COULD TEXT GET TEXT MESSAGES REGARDING WHERE THEIR PLACE IN LINE WAS WHILE RIGHT NOW WE HAVEN'T HAD AN EXTREME USE OF THE BUILDING, WE DO FORESEE IN THE FUTURE, OF COURSE, ONCE THE COURTS OPEN AND ONCE THINGS START HAPPENING THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE MUCH MORE USE OF OUR BUILDING. SO THIS PARTICULAR CONTRACT WAS REVIEWED OR THE RPS WERE REVIEWED AND WE'D LIKE TO AWARD THE CONTRACT TO NEMO Q. THEY WERE IN THE BALLPARK WITH THE OTHERS AS FAR AS PRICING WAS CONCERNED. WE ALSO HAVE AN EXCELLENT RAPPORT WITH THEM AND HISTORY WITH THEM AND THEY GIVE US A VERY QUICK RESPONSE TIME, EXCELLENT WORKING RELATIONSHIPS. THEY HAD VERY GOOD REFERENCES WITH OTHER COUNTIES, SO WE FELT THAT THERE WAS A LOT OF THINGS THAT WERE PLUSES THAT WE CAN USE SOME OF OUR EXISTING INFRASTRUCTURE THAT SORT OF THING. SO JEFF MCGILL IS BEHIND IT 100% AS WELL AS JENNIFER WHO HAS SO THIS WOULD ALLOW FOAM COME UP TO OUR BUILDINGS AND BE PUT INTO A SYSTEM AND USE A TEXT MESSAGE TO GET OUT OF THE CAR AND INTO THE BUILDING AND THAT WOULD LIMIT

THE PROCESS OF STANDING IN LINE. SO THAT'S THE WHOLE IDEA. >> WONDERFUL.

>> HOW WILL THAT WORK WITH THE ROTARY CELL PHONE? >> WELL THE OPTION OF STANDING IN LINE THEY CAN ALSO TAKE A NUMBER PHYSICALLY AND GO STAND AND WAIT IN THEIR CAR.

>> SO WHAT YOU HAVE NOW SERVING VISIBLE TO THE STREET. >> IT DEPENDS ON WHAT TYPES OF BUILDINGS YOU GUYS HAVE AND WHAT THE SETUPS ARE, BUT CURRENTLY WE HAVE MONITORS IN THE MAIN LOBBY

OF THE GOVERNMENT CENTER THE EASEMENT ACT. >> PERFECT.

COMMISSIONER INGALSBE, DID YOU HAVE A COMMENT I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY AND THE CARES ACT FUNDING

MONEY WILL BE PAYING FOR THIS. >> ALWAYS A GREAT QUESTION. THANK YOU SO MUCH.

REALLY APPRECIATE. IF THERE ARE NO OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS, PLEASE CALL THE

ROLL. >> COMMISSIONER SNOOIG YES. >> COMMISSIONER JONES.

>> YES. >> COMMISSIONER SHELL. >> YES.

>> COMMISSIONER SMITH. >> YES. >> AND JUDGE BECERRA.

>> YES. PLEASE OPEN 346789. >> 34 DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE

[34. Discussion and possible action to authorize Human Resources to procure a credit card in an amount not to exceed $3,500.00 from the County depository bank. BECERRA/MILLER]

$3500 FROM THE COUNTY DEPOSITORY BANK. >> SO MOVED.

>> SECOND -- PROCURE. >> A MOTION AND A SECOND. MISS BELLER, SINCE YOU'RE HERE, WOULD YOU LIKE TO APPROACH THE PODIUM, STATE YOUR NAME AND TITLE FOR THE RECORD AND WHY YOU

FEEL YOU NEED THIS FOR THE VIEWING OFFICE. >> THANK YOU JUDGE AND COURT.

SHERRI MILLERS COUNTY HUMAN RESOURCES DIRECTOR. WE HAVE OPERATED FOR YEARS WITHOUT USING AN INTERNAL CREDIT CARD, BUT WE ARE FINDING WELLNESS PRODUCTS, SAFETY PRODUCTS HAD A WE PURCHASE AS WELL AS SUBSCRIPTIONS TO SOFTWARE PROGRAMS OR -- OR READING MATERIAL THAT REQUIRE USING A CREDIT CARD FOR THOSE PURCHASES, AND WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO USE THE COUNTY AUDITORS CREDIT CARD TO SOME EXTENT. THEY PREFER THOSE PURCHASES TO BE AN EMERGENCY TYPE BASIS AND WE DON'T REALLY HAVE A LOT OF EMERGENCY TYPE PURCHASES.

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AND READING MATERIALS CURRENT FOR US. >> COMMISSIONERS, QUESTIONS?

>> THANK YOU. >> THE OFFICE RECOMMENDED A $3500 -- USUALLY IT'S $1500 BUT REVIEWING PURCHASES THAT THE HUMAN RESOURCE DEPARTMENT WILL BE CONDUCTING AND MAILING IN THIS PROGRAM PURCHASES THAT WE GET REAM BURSD FOR HEALTH CARE -- REIMBURSED FOR.

>> BEAUTIFUL. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

>> COMMISSIONER JONES. >> YES. >> COMMISSIONER SMITH.

>> YES. >> COMMISSIONER SHELL. >> YES.

>> COMMISSIONER INGALSBE. >> YES. >> AND JUDGE BECERRA.

>> YES. AND I'VE GOT SCRIBBLING GOING ON HERE.

I THINK WE ARE ON NUMBER 38? 35. PLEASE OPEN NUMBER 35.

[35. Discussion and possible action to adopt the FY 2021 County Holiday Calendar. INGALSBE]

>> 35, DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO ADOPT THE FY 2021 COUNTY HOLIDAY CALENDAR.

>> SO MOVED. >> SECOND. >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A

SECOND. COMMISSION INGALSBE? >> JUDGE, OF COURSE, THIS IS ALWAYS OPEN TO ANY CHANGES OR REVISIONS AND I WANTED TO BRING IN TO THE COURT.

WE'RE TRYING TO BE A LITTLE EARLY ON THIS. I KNOW THE COURTS DO THEIR -- SCHEDULE THEIR DOCKETS AND THIS GIVES THEM AMPLE TIME TO KNOW WHAT HOLIDAYS WE'RE HAVING FOR

THE COMING YEAR, SO CERTAINLY OPEN TO ANY DISCUSSION. >> LOOKS GOOD.

>> GOOD. >> IF THERE ARE NO OTHER COMMENTS, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

>> COMMISSIONER JONES. >> YES. >> COMMISSIONER SMITH.

>> YES. >> COMMISSIONER SHELL. >> YES.

>> COMMISSIONER INGALSBE. >> YES. >> AND JUDGE BECERRA.

>> YES. PLEASE OPEN 38. >> 38 DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE

[38. Discussion and possible action to discuss constituent's concern about elections requirements. BECERRA/CARDENAS]

>> AND WE HAVE SOME COMMENTS SIGNED UP FOR, AND I THINK THAT YOU HAVE THOSE.

FULL PLEASE READ THEM. >> OK AND VERY A MOTION YET JUST A PLACE HOLDNER OUR HEADS.

-- HOLDER IN OUR HEADS. >> SO -- >> SHOULD WE HAVE A MOTION? OR WAIT UNTIL AFTER THE COMMENTS? SIX OF ONE HALF A DOZEN OF

ANOTHER. >> READ THEM. >> OK, READ THE COMMENTS.

>> FROM JONATHAN SEINBURG. WHO IS A RESIDENT OF HAYS COUNTY.

I'VE TAKEN THE OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW THE EFFORTS OF SAM BRANNON AS SUMMARIZED BY MISS CARDENAS TODAY, THE INABILITY TO PROVIDE APPROPRIATELY REQUESTED DOCUMENTS THIS WILL IDENTIFY VOTE COUNTY PROCESSES UNNECESSARILY CREATES THE IMPRESSION THAT THERE IS SOMETHING BEING HIDDEN. WHETHER OR NOT THERE IS SOMETHING TO HIDE.

AT WORSE IS AN ATTORNEY PRACTICING LAW IN THE STATE OF TEXAS FOR OVER 35 YEARS.

MR. BRANNON'S INFORMATION RAISE THE POSSIBILITY OF VIOLATION THE ELECTION CODE AND/OR THE PUBLIC RELATIONS ACT. I SUBMIT THESE COMMENTS TODAY BECAUSE I'VE HAD SIMILAR EXPERIENCE WITH THE ELECTIONS OFFICE. TWO YEARS AGO, I BECAME AWAIVER THE LOST BALLOTS IN THE LAST PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION. AS I'M SURE YOU ARE AWARE IN 2016, HAYS COUNTY ELECTIONS OFFICE LOST SOME 1800 VOTES THAT WERE UNCOUNTED IN THAT ELECTION.

LEARNING AND ASKING ABOUT THIS INCIDENT IN THE SPRING OF 2018, THE ELECTIONS OFFICE PROVIDED ME A COPY OF THE INVESTIGATIVE REPORT SUBMITTED TO THE COMMISSIONERS COURT REPORTING THE INCIDENT IN. THAT 2017 REPORT THE COUNTY ELECTIONS ADMINISTRATOR CONCLUDED THAT THE 1800 BALLOTS WERE LOST DUE TO A LAPSE OF CAUSE IN CUSTODY AND THE POLICIES WOULD BE PUT IN PLACE SO THAT IT DIDN'T HAPPEN AGAIN. SO I ASKED TO SEE THOSE PROCEDURES MUCH THE SAME AS SAM BRANNONS REQUESTED INFORMATION RECENTLY IN.

SEPTEMBER OF 2018 I WAS GIVEN THEOPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW A THICK NOTEBOOK, WHICH CONSISTED MOSTLY OF GUIDANCE OF THE TEXAS SECRETARY OF STATE AS WELL AS HAYS COUNTY WORK ASSIGNMENTS.

IT DID NOT INCLUDE ANY PROCEDURES AS RECOMMENDED BY THE ADMINISTRATOR'S OWN INTERNAL INVESTIGATIVE REPORT. I LIKE MR. BRANNON BRING THESE TO THE ATTENTION OF THE HAYS COUNTY ELECTION. IN THE OFFICE THE HAYS COUNTY ELECTIONS, SOME MEMBERS BELIEVE THAT COMMISSION IS LIMITED UNDER THE ELECTION -- TO BE DETERMINING WHETHER THE COUNTY ELECTION ADMINISTRATOR SHOULD BE SUSPENDED OR TERMINATED. SOME OF THE COMMISSION MEMBERS EVEN OBJECTED TO HAVING A MEETING. OTHER MEMBERS BELIEVE THERE IS

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THE HAYS COUNTY ELECTION COMMISSION HAS THE AUTHORITY TO FIRE THE ELECTIONS ADMINISTRATOR AS A PRECURSOR TO HIRING SOMEBODY. THE COMMISSION MOST CERTAINLY HAS THE AUTHORITY IT MEET TO DISCUSS WHAT SKILLS ARE NEEDED BY STRAITING WHAT PERFORMANCE

WILL BE EXPECTED BY THE ADMINISTRATOR. >> IF YOU COULD -- TO THOSE THAT WROTE IN. SO FULL WRAP UP. IF THE END IS NEAR JUST KEEP

READING. >> WELL IT'S LONGISH. >> LET'S STWIK OUR THREE MINUTES

JUDGE. >> OK. SINCE YOU'RE FAR FROM THE END --

JUST STICK WITH. >> LET'S JUST CUT IT THEN. >> OK.

>> AND -- AND IF YOU REACH THREE MINUTES AND IT BEEPS AND YOU SEE THE END IN SIGHT JUST KEEP

READING. I'M SORRY, I HAD A COMMENT HERE. >> CAN YOU REPEAT THE NAME?

>> THE FIRST NAME WAS JONATHAN STEINBERG. >> JONATHAN STEINBERG YES.

>> OK. THANK YOU, MA'AM. >> YOU WANT ME TO IGNORE THE

THREE MINUTE WARNING. >> NOT IGNORE IT BUT IF THE SEND NEAR JUST FINISH LIKE WE WOULD

SOMEONE IN PUBLIC BUT IF IT'S FAR OUT JUST END IT THERE. >> CAN WE GET A COPY?

>> THIS HAS A NUMBER OF THINGS AMENDED TO IT. >> SEE WHAT YOU CAN GET THROUGH

AND WE'LL STOP IT THERE. >> THIS ONE IS FROM SAM BRANNON. ATTACHED IS MY ELECTIONS COMPLAINT AGAINST THE HAYS COUNTY ELECTIONS OFFICE FILED WITH THE ELECTIONS DIVISION AT THE SECRETARY OF STATE'S OFFICE REGARDING A MARCH 2020 PRIMARY. PLEASE INCLUDE THIS COMPLAINT IN THE MINUTES OF THIS MEETING. AS YOU CALL, A COUPLE OF DOZEN HAYS COUNTY CITIZENS FOUGHT HARD TO ENSURE THAT WE HAVE PAPER BALLOTS FOR ELECTIONS. THE VALUE OF PAPER BALLOTS IS THAT WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO -- TO DO POST ELECTION AUDITS REFERRED TO AS PARTIAL MANUAL ACCOUNTS. IN THE SECOND DOCUMENT OF THE COMPLAINT ARE THE RESULTS OF MY PUBLIC INFORMATION REQUEST TO THE ELECTIONS DIVISION SECRETARY OF STATE AND TO HAYS COUNTY AND IN THE TITLE -- UNTITLED SPREADSHEET YOU SEE THE ELECTIONS ADMINISTRATOR JENNIFER ANDERSON ONLY INCLUDES ELECTION DAY BALLOTS IN HER PARTIAL RECOUNT REPORT TO THE ELECTIONS DIVISION. THIS IS A CLEAR VIOLATION OF STATE ELECTION LAW.

THE SECRETARY OF STATE ALSO REQUIRES PARTIAL MANUAL ACCOUNTS AND EARLY VOTING BY MAIL AND EARLY VOTING AT THE POLLING PLACE. EITHER THESE WERE NOT DONE OR THEY WERE NOT RECORDED. IN EITHER CASE THAT'S A PROBLEM WE ALSO SEE THE RESPONSE FROM THE HAYS COUNTY GENERAL COUNCIL OFFICE. GIVEN THAT SEVEN OF TENITE VEMZ NO RESPONSE OF MATERIAL THREE WERE NONSENSICAL WHETHER OR NOT THE PARTIAL MANUAL IS IN OCCURRED IN QUESTION. MISS ANDERSON EVEN WITH HELP OF SUPPORTING DOCUMENTATION DESTROYED IT OR NEVER HAD IT. WHY IS THERE NO PROOF OF LAWFUL PARTIAL MANUAL COUNT TAKE PLACE.

YOU OWE IT TO HAYS COUNTY VOTERS TO RESPOND TO THESE QUESTIONS THOROUGHLY PRIOR TO THE NOVEMBER 3RD ELECTION. WE ARE 3 1/2 YEARS INTO QUESTIONS OF ELECTION INTEGRITY AT HAYS COUNTY. THE ELECTIONS OFFICE NEEDS PROFESSIONAL SUPERVISION AND ANY FURTHER AVOIDANCE OF THIS ISSUE BY THE HAYS COUNTY COMMISSION WILL ONLY APPEAR THAT YOU ARE ALL CONCLUSIVE IN WHATEVER SHENANIGANS ARE OCCURRING ON MISS ANDERSON'S WATCH.

THESE ARE ALL THE COMMENTS THAT RELATE TO ITEM 38. WE STILL DO HAVE SEVERAL THAT HAVE TO DO WITH DROP BOXES, BUT I WOULD SUGGEST THAT WE'RE GOING TO GO THROUGH WITH THE ISSUE IF IT'S OK WITH EVERYONE BEFORE WE GET INTO DROP BOXES BECAUSE THAT IS A LITTLE DIFFERENT.

WOULD THAT BE ACCEPTABLE? >> YES, MA'AM. THAT'S FINE.

ARE YOU SANDBLASTING BACK THERE? JUST KIDDING. >> SO MY PURPOSE TODAY REALLY IS JUST TO BRING TO THE ATTENTION THE COMMISSIONERS COURT OF CONCERN THAT A CONSTITUENT AND YOU PROBABLY KNOW BY NOW SAM BRANNON WHO WE ALL KNOW HAVE BROUGHT THIS ISSUE TO MY ATTENTION, AND I HAVE MADE IT REALLY CLEAR TO HIM I HAVE NO AUTHORITY OVER ELECTIONS.

EITHER IN MY CAPACITY AS A COUNTY CLERK OR ON ELECTIONS COMMISSIONS BUT LIKE ALL OF YOU I DO FEEL LIKE IT'S IMPORTANT TO FEEL RESPECT FOR CONSTITUENTS, HEAR THEM OUT AND DO WHAT I CAN, SO I WANT TO CONVEY TO YOU WHAT I UNDERSTAND TO BE CONCERNS SO THAT YOU CAN DO AS YOU SEE FIT

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I ADMIRE THEM AND BELIEVE THEY ARE ALL DOING THE VERY BEST THAT THEY.

CAN I THINK THAT THIS IS AND ESPECIALLY JUSTS AND D SO SYMPATHY ELECTIONS ADMINISTRATOR AND I WANT YOU TO UNDERSTAND THAT THIS IS NOT A PERSONAL ATTACK.

SO I DO KNOW THAT HE HAS CONTACTED EVERY MEMBER OF THE ELECTIONSS AND POSSIBLY OTHERS AND MET WITH OTHERS. SO I JUST WANT TO SUMMARIZE MY3 UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT HIS CONCERNS ARE FOR YOU AND LEAVE IT IN YOUR HANDS. SO IT DOES CONCERN THE REQUIREMENT TO CONDUCT PARTIAL RECOUNT OF MAIL-IN BALLOTS. THE EARLY VOTING BALLOTS AND THE ELECTION OF THOSE BALLOTS. NOW THIS IS A FAIRLY STANDARD KIND OF QUALITY CONTROL CHECK.

YOU MAY KNOW THAT I WORKED PROFESSIONALLY FOR MANY YEARS IN DATA COLLECTION AND RESEARCH WITH THESE PROCEDURES AND IT'S A VERY STANDARD KIND OF STUFF AND IMPORTANT ONE TO VALIDATE THE FINDINGS. SO THIS IS JUST ONE OF THE MANY, MANY THINGS THAT THE ELECTIONS ADMINISTRATOR HAS TO DO, BUT IT IS AN IMPORTANT STEP. AND I THINK THAT IT'SESS SPECIAL IMPORTANT NOW WHEN THERE ARE SO MANY WORRIES NATIONWIDE AND SO MUCH ANXIETY ABOUT ELECTIONS BIN TEG RATE AND INTERSBRENTION GOVERNMENTS. WE'VE HEARD ALL KINDS OF THINGS AND WE ALSO DO HAVE -- INTERVENTION -- ALL KINDS OF THINGS.

WE DO HAVE THE ADMINISTRATOR HAVING BALLOT BOXES MISPLACED OR AT LEAST ONCE.

THERE IS TIGHTENED SENSITIVITY TO IT. SO I THINK THAT IT'S REASONABLE IT TAKE A LOOK AT HOW PEOPLE ARE KNEELING OUR COUNTY AND HOW THEY MIGHT FEEL WHAT THEIR CONFIDENCE AND TRUST IS TO PROTECT OUR CONSIDER. SO HE DID DID GO TO THE SECRETARY OF STATE TO MAINTAIN A COPY OF THE REPORT. [INAUDIBLE] NOW HE HAD CLUED -- EXCUSE ME, CONCLUDED THAT IN ANY CASE THE INFORMATION THAT HE HAS IT DIDN'T APPEAR AND TO HE SUBMITTED AN OPEN RECORDS REQUEST ASKING FOR NINE ITEMS RELATED TO THIS PARTICULAR REQUIREMENT. ONE OF THEM WAS THE NOTICED PROCEED TOWERS DO THE RECOUNTS THE TWO TYPES OF RECOUNTS HE WAS GIVEN TWO MEMORANDA FROM THE SECRETARY OF STATE. ONE OF THESE WAS TO DO WHAT THE REQUIREMENTS WERE AND THE OTHER WAS POLLING LOCATIONS THAT COULD BE USED AS AN ALTERNATIVE TO THE PRECINCT AND THE RACE THAT'S WERE ECTD SL. ONE OF THE PROCEED SURZ THAT THE SECRETARY OF STATE THE DAY AFTER THE ELECTIONSS MINISTER -- EXCUSE ME. THE PRECINCT RACE IS AN EXAM.

I DON'T REMEMBER EXACTLY WHAT THOSE PRECINCTS WERE BUT THERE WERE THREE.

REPUBLICAN AND DEMOCRAT. THERE WERE NO PROCEDURES. THIS WAS THIS REQUIREMENT THAT'S WERE PROVIDED. EXCUSE ME. THE REST OF HIS REQUEST HAD TO DO WITH THINGS LIKE THE ORDER FOR NAMING THE PEOPLE TO BE INVOLVED IN THE RECOUNT, WHICH I THINK YOU WOULD AGREE SERVES AN IMPORTANT THING. THE NAMES OF THE PEOPLE WHO

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MY VIEW THEY WERE THINGS TO WANT TO SEE AND REASONABLE THINGS TO DOCUMENTATION UP, BUT I DON'T KNOW IN THE OFFICES OF TIME AND QUITE POSSIBLY ALL THE RECORDS DOCUMENTATION EXIST.

I DON'T KNOW IF THEY DO OR NOT. SO WHAT WAS SAID IN THE RESPONSE TO THOSE OPEN RECORDS REQUEST WAS EITHER SIMILAR RESPONSE TO ME WAS NO RESPONSE OF MATERIAL AND THE LATTER RESPONSE RETENTION WAS GIVEN PRIMARILY FOR CHACHB CUSTODY I BELIEVE FOR THE BALLOT BOXES -- CHAIN OF CUSTODY. WHICH I THINK WE WOULD ALL AGREE THAT WHEN WE HAVE A CONCERN ABOUT BALLOT BOXES THAT WE WOULD HAVE THOSE. I DO UNDERSTAND THERE'S PAPERWORK FOR TRACKING CUSTODY IT JUST WASN'T PROVIDED. THE THING IS THAT IT IMPLIES THAT THE DOCUMENTS ARE SEALED AND NOT AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC AND IN FACTED RETENSION IS DONE FOR THE PURPOSE TO MAKE SURE THEY ARE AVAILABLE IF QUESTIONS ARISE.

IT'S LIKE IRS FORMS THAT YOU KEEP FOR SEVEN YEARS IN CASE THEREABOUTS AUDIT.

THAT'S A QUICK SUMMARY BROUGHT IT MY ATTENTION AND SINCE IT'S COME YOU IT'S NOT QUITE CLEAR IT MAY ALL HAVE BEEN DONE. DOCUMENTATION WASN'T SIMPLY PROVIDE BUT SOME COMBINATION OF THE TWO IT EITHER WASN'T DONE OR PROVIDED WHEN IT WAS REQUESTED. WEF THE TRUST AND CONFIDENCE OF OUR GOVERNMENT AND THIS MAY BE AN OPENING TO LOOK AT THAT AND AGAIN IT'S NOT ANY SORT OF -- ANYBODY OF WHAT'S GONE ON. I WILL STEP OUT OF THE PROCESS AND MAKE SURE YOU'RE AWARE IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS OF ME OR NEED ANYTHING FROM ME I'D BE HAPPY TO PROVIDE HELP.

>> THE FIRST QUESTION I HAVE FOR YOU AND THANK YOU FOR WEIGHING IN ON WHAT WAS SENT TO YOU AND THANK YOU FOR PROPHESYING AHEAD IT'S NOT AN ATTACK ON COLLEAGUES.

I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT BECAUSE IT'S ALREADY A STRESSFUL SETTING AND AS YOU SAID WE HAVE TO WORK THROUGH THIS THE MOST INTELLIGENT MANNER POSSIBLE THE FIRST QUESTION I HAVE IS CHAIN

OF CUSTODY PIECE. THEY WERE PUT AWAY. >> THE RESPONSE WAS NO RESPONSIVE EARLY IN 22 MONTHS RECORD RETENTION AND I'M NOT SURE WHAT IT MEANS BUT TO ME THAT IT'S IMPLIED AND CAN'T BE SEALED ACCESS. MY UNDERSTANDING CHAIN OF CUSTODY IS LIKE AN OPS MANUAL AM I RIGHT? IS THAT HOW YOU UNDERSTOOD TO BE

AN OPS MANUAL? >> CHAIN OF CUSTODY WE THREW IT IN MY OFFICE FOR SUCH SIMPLE THINGS FROM OUR SUBSTATION IT GOES WITH THE ITEM AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

ALSO THERE ARE CONSTRUCTIONS FOR WHAT IS TO BE DONE AND HOW MANY ARE WITH SOMETHING LIKE THIS.

YOU USUALLY HAVE SOMETHING OBSERVING WHAT'S GOING ON AS WELL AS THE PERSON HANDLING IT SO THAT YOU HAVE ANOTHER SET OF EYES. MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT YOU DESCRIBED A TRACKER OF SORTS HAS BEEN PUT AWAY AND NOT MADE AVAILABLE TO ANYONE ASKING FOR IT. SO I HAVE THAT SAME ASSUMPTION OF WHAT IT IS AS YOU DO.

COMMISSIONER, ANY QUESTIONS? >> JUST WANT TO FOLLOW UP ON THAT.

I THINK WE OUGHT TO HEAR FROM OUR ELECTIONS ADMINISTRATOR. >> FOR SURE.

HOLD ON ONE SECOND. BUT FIRST I WANT IT SEE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON WHAT DR. CARDENAS SAYS BEFORE SHE GETS OFF THE PODIUM, ON WHAT SHE SAID.

>> I DO AND THEN I DO WANT IT HEAR FROM JENNIFER. >> BECAUSE MY QUESTION IS IF YOU LOOK AT WHAT WAS ASKED FOR I WOULD DISAGREE WITH YOU JUDGE ON IT'S OPTIONAL.

THEY ARE LOOKING FOR SPECIFIC DOCUMENTATION OF THE CHAIN OF CUSTODY OF A SPECIFIC BALLOT BOX THAT WAS USED. SO THAT WOULDN'T BE OPERATIONS RELATED IT HOW IT WAS DONE.

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I MEAN IT SPECIFICALLY ASKS WHICH ONES WERE BROKEN. IS THAT YOUR UNDERSTANDING? YEAH, SO IT'S NOT -- IT'S NOT ASKING FOR HERE ARE THED HARD OPERATIONS.

IT'S ASKING FOR THE CHAIN OF CUSTODY FOR THAT SPECIFIC BOX THAT WAS USED.

>> THAT'S CORRECT. THERE WAS AN EARLIER QUESTION PROCEDURES.

>> RIGHT. I JUST WANTED TO -- >> THERE'S TWO PARTS TO IT.

I WAS ADDRESSING THE FUNDAMENTAL BASELINE. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR CARDENAS WHICH SHE WROTE AND SPOKE TO US ABOUT. NO.

NOW WE'RE IN A PLACE FOR MISS ANDERSON TO RETURN. >> REQUEST GOOD MORNING.

>> FEEL FREE TO ADDRESS HOWEVER HOW MUCH OF IT WOULD YOU LIKE OR CLARIFY OR ANYTHING YOU'D LIKE

TO SAY. >> WELL I DON'T HAVE THE PUBLICS INFORMATION REQUEST BECAUSE I HAD NO KNOWLEDGE OF THIS ITEM BEING PUT ON ONCE AGAIN SO I WASN'T ABLE TO PREPARE.

BUT I WILL TELL YOU THAT THE SECRETARY OF STATE'S OFFICE DID GET THIS COMPLAINT AND THEY DISMISSED IT BECAUSE THERE'S NO MERIT TO IT. THE ACCOUNT WAS AND ALWAYS HAS BEEN COMPLETED BY MY OFFICE AND ALWAYS HAS BEEN DONE BY THE LETTER OF THE LAW, THE TEXAS ELECTION CODE. THEIR REPORT TO MR. BRANNON WAS MISSING THE DATA FIELD FOR EARLY REPORTING IN WHICH THEY CONTACTED HIM MULTIPLE OCCASIONS BUT HE DID NOT CALL BACK, AND SO MUCH TO THE POINT WHERE THEY HAVE SENT ALL OF MR. BRANNON'S COMMUNICATION TO THE STATE TO THEIR GENERAL COUNCIL'S OFFICE. THEY ARE NOT EVEN DEALING WITH HIM ANYMORE.

BECAUSE HE'S MADE VERY SIMILAR ACCUSATIONS I GUESS I'LL CALL TO THEIR OFFICE, THAT THEY ARE NOT GIVING PUBLIC INFORMATION REQUESTS, EITHER. PERHAPS IT'S THAT MR. BRANNON ISN'T ASKING FOR THE RIGHT THINGS. I WILL -- MARK'S OFFICE HANDLES THE PUBLIC INFORMATION REQUESTS, SO I'LL LET HIM BREAK IN AT ANY TIME.

BUT I GAVE COMPLETE PARTIAL ACCOUNT PAPERWORK TO BRANNON EARLY MAIL BALLOTS INCLUDING ELECTION DAY. IN ADDITION I TRIED TO CALL HIM AND LEFT A MESSAGE SAID WE CAN TALK ABOUT THE POSSIBLITIES FOR PARTIAL ACCOUNT AND MAYBE I CAN UNDER THE PROCESS TO HIM.

HOURV MY CALL WENT UNRETURNED AS WELL. SO I'M NOT SURE WHAT THIS IS OR WHY WE'RE HERE TALKING ABOUT IT TODAY BUT I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

>> MY FIRST QUESTION TO YOU 1 DO ON THE CHAIN OF CUSTODY PIECE WE WERE JUST DISCUSSING, DO YOU HAVE THE ACTUAL TWO PARTS HERE THE OPS MANUAL PART OF IT VEILABLE FOR SHOW AND TELL --

AVAILABLE WHEN THEY ASK FOR IT. >> OUR PARTIAL RECOUNT POLICIES COME TO THAT ADVISORY THAT YOU

GOT AND MR. BRANNON GOT AND THE ELECTION CODE. >> SO DO YOU HAVE IN YOUR OFFICE

AVAILABLE IF SOMEONE ASKED FOR. >> I HAVE IT FOR YOU. I STENT TO YOU.

>> I'M ADDRESSING CITIZENS CONCERNS AND I'D LIKE FOR TO YOU ANSWER THAT WAY.

>> I HAVE THE ADVISORY IN MY OFFICE ZBLEE THE AUDIT OF THE WORK THE ACTUAL RESULTS OF THOSE AUDITS ARE THOSE PIECES BEING DESCRIBED AS PUT AWAY FOR 22 MONTHS.

>> YES AND I GAVE THOSE TO MR. BRANNON BEFORE I LOCKED THEM AWAY BECAUSE I HAPPENED TO BE WORKING ON THEM. FOR THE RECORD THE 22-MONTH RETENTION IS NOT SAME AS IT WOULD BE IN DR. CARDENAS' OFFICE OR ANYBODY ELSE'S. THOSE ARE LOCKED AWAY AND ONLY

ATTAINABLE IF THEY ARE A COURT ORDER, SO THEY ARE DIFFERENT. >> AND THOSE RESULTS -- THOSE

THE AUDIT WAS DONE ON THIS JUST PAST, CORRECT? >> RUNOFF, YES.

>> COMMISSIONERS, ANY QUESTIONS FOR HER? >> JUST A FEW.

MAINLY GOING TO THE BAVK THE MATERIAL WHICH INCLUDES THE COLUMN.

-- BACK OF THE MATERIAL WHICH INCLUDES THE COLUMN. IT SAYS NO RESPONSE TO MATERIAL.

>> OK. >> DOCUMENTATION OF BALLOTS SUBJECT TO RECOUNTS.

I'M ASSUMING THAT WAS A REQUEST MADE BY THE REQUESTER WHICH WAS ANY DOCUMENTATION OF THE BALLOT

BOXES THAT WERE SUBJECT TO THE RECOUNT. >> RIGHT.

>> SO EXPLAIN TO ME WHAT THAT WOULD BE. >> I'M NOT SURE WHAT THAT IS.

I DON'T HAVE DOCUMENTATION SPECIFIC TO THAT BALLOT BOX. I HAVE DOCUMENTATION OF ALL THE EQUIPMENT THAT BALLOT BOX? I'M ASSUMING WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PRECINCTS 121 S 16 AND 326 FOR THAT SPECIFIC RACE IS THAT WHAT THE QF INFORMATION REGARDS TO BOXES BALLOT SUBJECT TO RECOUNT.

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>> YES. >> A RECOUNT WAS DONE IN THOSE THREE PRECINCTS FOR THAT RACE.

>> YES. SO THE BALLOT BOXES WOULD BE THE ACTUAL PAPER, PAPER RECORD THAT WAS PUT INTO THE SCANNER PUT INTO A BOX AND THOSE WERE COUNT THE IN THOSE THREE PRECINCTS FOR

THAT RACE. >> YES. WHAT IS YOUR OPINION SUBJECT TO THE RECOUNT? WOULD TO BE ALL BALLOTS PRECINCTS FOR THAT RACE BOTH

PARTIES. >> I WOULD PROBABLY HAVE TO ASK GENERAL COUNS WHALE THAT MEANS.

OBTAIN CUSTODY TO SAY THE SCAT WOULD WE WOULD OBTAIN WHEN WE GIVE IT TO THE JUDGE AND COMES BACK TO THE JUDGE JUDGE BUT SOMETHING SPECIFIC TO THE PRECINCT BALLOT BOXES SUBJECT TO AFTER THE ELECTION IS GOING TO OCCUR I'M IN THE SURE WHAT THAT WOULD MEAN.

>> I GUESS MY. >> I'M TRYING IT UNDERSTAND WHAT IT MEANS TOO.

SOMEONE WOULD LIVES IN 321, 326 IF THEY CAST A BALLOT FOR THAT RACE IN EITHER PARTY THEY WOULD

HAVE STUCK IT INTO A SCAERN AND A BOX. >> RIGHT.

>> THIS RECOUNT WOULD BE IN ANY OF THOSE BALLOTS. >> RIGHT.

>> SO THAT'S DONE THE BALLOT BROSMZ ANYWHERE SINCE WE HAVE EARLY VOTING CENTERS IS THAT IF ANYONE VOTED AS OF PRECINCT 336 RESIDENT FOR THAT RACE THAT BALLOT WOULD HAVE BEEN

RECOUNTED. >> RIGHT. >> RIGHT.

>> OK I DON'T KNOW IF THAT MEANS REDOCUMENTATION OF BALLOT BOXES. IT'S ALL THE BALLOT BOXES.

>> RIGHT. >> THAT HAVE VOTE FROM 126 AND 336.

>> RIGHT. >> ORDER NAMING EMPLOYEES TO PARTICIPATE IN RECOUNT.

SO IS THAT A REQUIREMENT BY LAW THAT THERE IS A -- IS THERE SOME ORDER, SOME LEGAL DOCUMENT THAT

SAYS THAT THESE INDIVIDUALS PARTICIPATE IN THE RECOUNT. >> NO.

>> SO WHO IS IT? IS IT YOUR OFFICE? >> IT'S THREE OF MY OFFICE STAFF THAT DO IT. ONE COUNTS, THEN THE OTHER COUNTS AND THE OTHER COUNTS IT MAKE SURE THAT THEY ARE THE SAME JUST THE SAME AS WE WOULD DO THE RECOUNT.

>> AND THESE R PAPER BALLOTS ONLY? >> YES.

>> OR ARE THEY ONLY PUSHING THE BUTTON AND RECOUNTING THE SPLEEKS NO WE JUST DO THE PAPER

VERSION OF THE BALLOTS. >> BUT YOU COULD PROVIDE THE NAMES OF THOSE INDIVIDUALS YOU

JUST -- >> SURE. >> COULD YOU NAME THEM RIGHT

NOW? >> YEAH, IT WAS VIRGINIA FLORES, CHRIS ARMITEZ AND CHRISTIAN

THOMAS. >> I THINK WE TALKED ABOUT THE NEXT ONE.

DOCUMENTATION OF BREAKING OF SEALS PRIOR TO DELIVERY TO COUNTING TEAMS. SO WHEN THE BALLOT IS PUT IN THE SCANNER AND ENDS UP IN THED BOX THERE IS A SEAL ON THAT BOX?

>> YES. THERE'S A SEAL ON THE SCANNER. I CAN ONLY ASSUME HERE BECAUSE MR. BROWN HAS BEEN IN CENTRAL COUNT THAT WHEN WE COUNT THE BALLOT MEDIA AND CENTRAL COUNT WE BREAK A WIRE STILL THERE AND IT'S DOCUMENTED. BUT THAT WOULDN'T PERTAIN TO THE PAPER BALLOTS I'M NOT SAYING THIS IS RELATED 20 THE RECOUNT THE REAUDIT, WHATEVER YOU CALL IT THE RECOUNT OF THE RAILROAD COMMISSION ARE RACE IT'S ELECTRONICALLY VOTE MARKS THE BALLOT AND ELECTRONICALLY BALLOT IS RESTORED WHAT'S COUNTED. AND IT'S SCANNED OUR VOTE IS THE SCACHK THE BALLOT AND THAT IS STORED. THAT ELECTRONIC RECORD OF OUR BALLOT THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE AND THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE AS RESULTS AND THEN WE HAVE THE BALANCE LOT. THE AUCTION BALLOT IS LEFT OVER IN THE BOX THAT I'M ASSUMING IS

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LOCKED. >> YES. >> SO WHEN WE COUNT VOTES IN A NORMAL RACE, WE'RE COUNTING THE VOTES THAT ELECTRONICALLY OF THOSE THAT ARE SCANNED FROM THE

PAPER. >> YES. >> IN OTHER WORDS WHEN WE COUNT THE VOTES WE DON'T OPEN UP ALL OF THOSE BOXES AND PUT THE PAPERS OUT ON A TABLE AND HAVE PEOPLE SAY WHO VOTED FOR WHO. THEY ARE THERE FOR AUDITING PURPOSES OR REQUEST FOR RECOUNT.

SO IN THIS CASE THERE'S AN AUTOMATIC PAPER RECOUNT OF THIS RACE DICTATED BY THE SECRETARY

OF STATE FOR THESE THREE VOTING PRECINCTS ONLY. >> RIGHT.

SO WHEN YOU SAY PRECINCTS THE ONLY PRECINCTS THAT ARE COUNTED IN THE PARTIAL MANUAL COUNT ARE THE BALLOT BY MAIL PRECINCTS, AND WHEN WE'RE COUNTING THE ELECTION DAY VOTES HE FOR THE TABULATED ELECTRONIC MEDIA THOSE ARE DONE BY LOCATIONS. SO WE GET TWO DIFFERENT SETS OF CRITERIA FROM THE SECRETARY OF STATE'S OFFICE. WE GET THREE LOCATIONS AND THREE PRECINCTS AND THE PRECINCTS ARE USED FOR BALLOT BY MAIL AND LOCATIONS ARE USED FOR ELECTION

DAY. >> CAN I INTERJECT HERE? >> AND EARLY VOTING.

>> TO YOUR POINT ABOUT WHENEVER THESE BALLOTS COME BACK IN. SAY THERE ARE 15 MACHINES OR 8 MACHINES OR SIX MACHINES WHATEVER. BUT YOU'VE GOT THE ONE SCANNER AT THE PRECINCT FOUR OFFICE. SO ALL THOSE BALLOTS GO INTO THAT BOX THE AT END OF THE ELECTION THEY COME BACK THE WE RUN THE ELECTRONIC TALLY. WHENEVER DO YOU THAT THAT EQUIPMENT THAT COMES BACK THAT BALLOT BOX Y'ALL BREAK THE SEAL THAT NIGHT OR THE NEXT DAY OR WHEN IS THE SEAL BROKEN ON THOSE BALLOTS? AND ORGANIZED AND PUT INTO SOMETHING BECAUSE I KNOW THAT EQUIPMENT YOU BREAK DOWN AND STORE UNTIL THE NEXT ELECTION.

MY QUESTION IS THERE MAY NOT BE AN UNDERSTANDING WHENEVER THOSE BALLOTS COME BACK BEFORE THAT MANUAL RECOUNT, IT'S NOT LIKE ALL THOSE BALLOTS STAY IN THAT SAME BOX UNTIL THE SECRETARY OF STATE SAYS NO, THIS IS IT. QUITE LITERALLY EVERY ONE OF THOSE PRECINCTS THAT COMES BACK

THEY HAVE TO BREAK THE SEAL. AM I CORRECT IN THAT. >> THOSE STAY IN THE BALLOT BOX FOR TEN AS AND AFTER THAT WE CAN PUT THEM IN A LOCKED STORAGE WHERE WE KEEP THEM FOR 22 MONTHS. SAME THING WITH THE PARTIAL MANUAL COUNT.

ALL OF THAT INFORMATION IS STORED AND REED FOR 22 MONTHS, AS WELL.

>> YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE ELECTRONIC PAPER. >> I'M TALKING ABOUT THE PAPER.

>> THE PAPER. >> YEAH. THE ELECTRONIC MEDIA.

THERE 1 THE OPPORTUNITY TO REUSE THAT ESPECIALLY LIKE THIS YEAR WHERE WE HAVE SEVERAL ELECTIONS IN A ROW BUT ALL OF THAT INFORMATION IS IN OUR TABULATION SYSTEM.

>> SO THAT MAKES SENSE. I THINK THE QUESTION IS HOW DO YOU DOCUMENT WHETHER IT'S BROKEN? IT'S BROKEN AT THAT TEN-DAY MARK.

IT'S ALREADY BROKEN. IT'S NOT LIKE THEY ARE GOING BACK TO DO IT AGAIN.

>> RIGHT. AND WHEN THEY THROBBING, IT IS - IT IS DOCUMENTED WHEN THE

JUDGES LOCK IT UP. >> YEAH, SO LET'S GO BACK TO THE DOCUMENTATION OF BREAK THE SEAL PRIOR IT DELIVERY TO COUNTING TEAM. SO THE COUNTING TEAM I'M ASSUMING IS THIS AUDIT AGAIN. IS THAT WHAT WOULD ASSUME IS ASKING?

>> THE THREE-PERSON. >> THE THREE -- THE WE DON'T BREAK ANYTHING PRIOR TO THAT.

AND THERE IS NO DOCUMENTATION OF BREAKING. AGAIN, I DON'T --

>> I'M ASKING THESE QUESTIONS BECAUSE I NEED TO UNDERSTAND AS WELL.

WHEN OUR PAPER BALLOT IS IN THIS GIANT BOX, DOES THAT BOX EVER GET OPENED?

OR WHAT MAKES THAT BOX GET OPENED? >> SO ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT

BOXES THAT ARE -- >> I'M TALKING ABOUT OUR PAPER IT GOES IN A GIANT BOX.

THOSE ARE SEALED BY THE JUDGE. THEY ARE DELIVERED BACK TO OUR OFFICE AND THEY ARE CHECKED BACK IN BY OUR STAFF, AND THEN THEY ARE THERE FOR TEN DAYS AND TRANSFERRED TO ANOTHER LOCKED

BOX WHERE THEY STAY. >> BUT THAT BOX IS OPENED AND PUT INTO SOMETHING ELSE?

>> YES. >> THAT BOX IS REUSED BECAUSE IT'S PART OF THE SCANER.

>> RIGHT. >> BUT THEY ARE ALL BEING STORED IN SOMETHING ONE TINY PIECE I WANT TO ADD. I'VE NOT HEARD THIS DETAIL. WHEN YOU HEARD THAT TEN-DAY SCANNED IN A BOX WHEN THAT SEAL IS BROKEN HOO IS THERE TO WITNESS DOCUMENT THE BREAKING OF THE SEAL AND TRANSFERRING TO THAT COMMISSIONER SHELL WAS DISCUSSING.

>> YOUR STAFF THROUGHOUT EVERY TIME I'VE SEEN SO FAR. IS THIS IN A I KNOW WE HAVE CAMERAS IN YOUR FOOTPRINT. IS THIS IN FRONT OF THE RECORDED DEVICE OF ANY KIND.

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>> IT'S USUALLY CENTRAL COUNT. >> CENTRAL COUNT. >> USUALLY NOT ALWAYS IN CENTRAL

COUNT. >>P SORRY COMMISSIONER. SO THAT ROOM IS THE ELECTIONS

OFFICE. >> YES THAT'S WHERE WE STORE IT. >> SO IS THERE A EITHER REQUIRED BY THE SECRETARY OF STATE OR US. IS THIS DOCUMENTATION OF BREAK OF SEALS LET'S FORGET ABOUT THE DELIVERY TO COUNTY TEAM OR ANY OTHER TIME. IS THERE SOMETHING THAT IS FILLED OUT IS THERE A STORM HAD A SAYS WHEN YOU OPEN IT OR PUT IT INTO THE STORAGE YOU NEED TO

FILL OUT A FORM? >> NO. I'M NOT AWARE OF A FORM OF THAT.

WHEN WE TAKE IT BACK INTO OUR OFFICE OR THE JUDGE ARE POLLING PLACE GETS IT BACK TO US AND SIGNS IT BACK TO US THAT CHAIN OF CUSTODY IS DOCUMENTED. THERE'S NOT A FORM OF ONE

CHANGING IT TO ONE BALLOT BOX TO ANOTHER. >> PEOPLE ANTICIPATING AND

EXPECTING BALLOT BOXES. WHAT WOULD WITH HE ASSUME. >> LIKE I SAID WHEN THEY BRING IT BACK IN WE TAKE THE CHAIN OF CUSTODY BACK AND SOMEONE SIGNS THE CHAIN OF CUSTODY LIKE THE

JUDGE. >> IT'S THE INTAKE TEAM WHICH IS MY STAFF AND THE JUDGE.

YOUR TEAM SAYS I'M SIGNING AND STHEFG. >> YES.

>> BUT WERE THOSE -- WERE THOSE DOCUMENTS SUBMITTED IN THIS REQUEST?

>> NO. WE COULD POTENTIALLY ASSUME THAT MAY SATISFY SOME OF THESE

QUESTIONS IF IF WE PROVIDE THOSE QUESTIONS WHICH IS AN IDEA. >> YES.

>>ATION OF BREAK THE SEALS AFTER THE LOCATION. LET'S SAY IT'S THE JUDGE SIGNING SOMETHING AND YOUR TEAM STEFG. DOCUMENTATION OF BREAK THE SEALS AFTER THE INSPECTION.

IN THIS ISSUE THE RECOUNT WE KNOW THAT THOSE WERE ACTUALLY OPENED RIGHT? I MEAN DID, SOMEONE PHYSICALLY LOOK AT A BALLOT? DHURG.

>> YOU MEAN THE PAPER BALLOTS. >> THE PAPER I'M TALKING PAPER ONLY RIGHT NOW.

>> YES. >> SO AGAIN, THIS IS COMPLICATED QUESTION, BUT WHEN WE'RE LOOKING TO AUDIT OR RECOUNT ONE SPECIFIC RACE AND WE HAVE HUNDREDS OF THESE BOXES.

OR 50 OF THEM ACROSS THE COUNTY. HOW DO WE KNOW WHERE THESE BALLOTS ARE TO COUNT.

IN OTHER WORDS WE'RE ONLY LOOKING FOR THE PAPER OF THIS RACE.

>> FROM FROM THIS PRECINCT. >> I ASSUME WE KNOW HOW MANY PEOPLE VOTED IN THAT RACE.

REGISTER WHO VOTED IN ONE. HOW DO WE GO THROUGH THE BOXES AND JUST SIGN THE PAPER.

>> AGAIN FOR THE ELECTRONIC TABULATION THAT'S DONE BY LOCATION SO THE POLLING LOCATIONS ARE COUNTED FOR THE TABULATION OR WHAT WE COUNT THE PAPER FOR OR MAIL BALLOTS ARE

VOTED BY PRECINCT. >> WHAT ABOUT THE PAPER BALLOT. >> THAT IS BY WHEN YOU'RE LOOK AT WHAT WE USE IN THE POLLING LOCATION FOR VERIFIABLE PAPER THAT'S DONE BY LOCATION.

>> OK. SO YOU'RE PICK A VOTING SITE. >> I DON'T PICK THEM.

THE STATE PICKS THEM. >> THE STATE PICKS THE VOTING SITE AND WITHIN THAT VOTING SITE

YOU'RE ONLY LOOKING FOR A IN 121 OR 366. >> NO.

YOU'RE LOOKING FOR A LOCATION AND YOU'RE COUNTING THE OFFICES THAT THEY SPECIFY.

FOR BALLOT BY MAIL YOU'RE DHOOG BY PRECINCT. >> THE SECRETARY OF STATE SAYS THAT VOTING LOCATION ALL OF THE MAIL BALLOTS THAT WERE CAST AT THAT LOCATION ARE SNORED THIS

BOX YOU MUST NOW RECOUNT THE RAILROAD COMMISSIONER RACE. >> RIGHT.

>> SO OPEN UP THE ENTIRE BOX VOTED BY THE COMMISSIONER. >> YES.

IT'S A MANUAL COUNT. >> I DO HAVE ONE QUESTION. WE TALK ABOUT OK YOU BREAK THE SEAL. AND THE DOCUMENTATION OF BREAK THE SEAL PRIOR TO THE COUNTY AND THEN THERE'S A QUESTION OF BREAK DOCUMENTATION OF BREAK THE SEAL AFTER THE INSPECTION.

IF THE BOXS ALREADY BEEN BROKEN OPEN AND IT'S EXPECTED THERE'S NO SEAL TO BREAK.

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MAKE SENSE? >> COMPLETE. >> SO I JUST WANTED TO -- IT

WOULD MAKE SENSE. >> WHAT I'M WONDERING COMMISSIONERS IF I COULD CHIME IN A BIT IS IF WE AS A COUNTY HAVE A HISTORY OF HISTORY OF SHORT COMESINGS IN ELECTIONS I'M JUST WONDERING WHY THAT SPOT IF COMMISSIONER SHELL POINTED OUT A BOX CAME IN WITH A SCANNED VOTES WHEN THAT GETS TRANSFERRED I JUST HEARD THAT WE DON'T HAVE A WORD DOCUMENT THAT WE CAN TYPE UP IN THREE MINUTES. I KNOW THERE'S A NOTARY IN THE BUILDING TO SAY THAT HERE AT THIS POINT WE HAVE A TEN-DAY WINDOW TO TRANSFER PAPER BALLOTS IT A BIGGER BOX WHY.

WE DON'T HAVE A PIECE OF PAPER TO VERIFY BECAUSE WHAT I HEARD IS WE DON'T.

>> WELL WE DO HAVE IT WHEN IT COMES IN. CLARIFY WHEN IT COMES INTO THE BUILDING WHEN TIP COMES FROM A POLLING LOCATION IT IS DIRECT DOCUMENTATION TO SAY OK THE SCANNERS AND BALANCE FROM PRECINCT FOUR. WE JUST CHECKED THEM IN.

THEY ARE IN A SECURE. TO YOUR POINT ABOUT WHEN YOU DO THAT TRANSFER I DON'T DISAGREE WITH YOU. MY QUESTION IS ONCE THAT TRANSFER IS DONE IT'S DONE IN CENTRAL COUNT WHERE IT'S DONE ON VIDEO. I WOULD ASSUME THAT WE COULD JUST AS DO YOU THOSE IS, THERE ANYTHING WRITTEN DOWN WE SAY OK WE FIN THEIR BOX WE FINISH THIS

BOX. >> WE HAVE THE SEALS FROM WHERE THEY COME FROM DOCUMENTED AND THE SEAL THAT WE PUT ON THE LOCK BOX THAT IT STAYS IN FOR 22 MONTHS DOCUMENTED.

WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING THAT SAYS WE TRANSFERRED FROM THIS BOX TO THIS BOX.

>> AGAIN I'M NOT THAT FAMILIAR WITH THE PROCESS. I'M LEARNING IT.

WOULD TO ME MAKE SENSE THAT WHEN THE SECRETARY OF STATE GUIDANCE IT SAYS IS THAT THE SAME FOR ALL COUNTIES RAILROAD COMMISSIONER THAT THE RACE WAS SELECTED FOR ALL COUNTIES?

>> I BELIEVE SO. >> BUT THE SECRETARY OF STATE SENDS YOU SOMETHING AND SAYS THIS IS THE RACE WE WANT TO YOU RECOUNT THESE ARE THE LOCATIONS WE WANT YOU TO PULL THEM FROM.

WE WOULD TRANSPOSE THAT INTO SOME FORM. IT SAYS WE'RE GOING TO DO THIS WITH THESE LOCATIONS AND THESE PRECINCTS FOR THIS RACE, AND THAT DONE MANY CENTRAL COUNT WHICH THAT'S CAMERAS AND HAS EVERYBODY SIGN WHICH SAYS YOU DISPAY THE AND I WOULD SAY THAT THE REASON I LOOK AT THIS SECRETARY OF STATE WOULD QUESTION US WHETHER THEY TOLD US RIGHT? WE COULD SAY THE DATE THAT DID IT HERE'S THE RACE WE DID.

HERE'S THE LOCATIONS WE PULLED IT FROM WHICH IS EXACTLY WHAT YOU TOLD US AND HERE ARE THE INDIVIDUAL THAT'S PARTICIPATED IN THAT PROCESS AND THAT WOULD PROBABLY SOLVE MOST QUESTIONS OF THE RECOUNT PROCEDURE SOME WOULD HAVE. THAT WOULD BE ALL THE BACKUP OF THAT COMING IN OR EVERYTHING ELSE. THAT WOULD BE MY SUGGESTION ESPECIALLY IF THE SECRETARY OF STATE EVER CAME BACK AND SAID WE WANT TO KNOW IF DID YOU THIS OR

NOT WE CAN SAY YEAH THAT IS WHAT WE DID. >> THAT'S WHAT I SAID CHAIN OF CUSTODY IT'S LIKE OK I'M THE JUDGE OF 333 AND HERE ARE MY PAPER BALLOTS.

IT'S STILL A SEALED BOX. >> THAT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN. >> IF NOT THERE NEEDS TO BE A LITTLE BRIDGE TO ADDRESS IT. BELIEVE ME I'D RATHER BE TALKING ABOUT SOMETHING ELSE.

WHATEVER WE CAN DO TO COMFORT OUR CONSTITUENTS IN GENERAL TERMS IT WOULD BE TIME WELL

SPENT. >> I CAN SEE HAVING THE DOCUMENT COMMISSIONER SHELL JUST ASKED ABOUT AND WE'LL WORK ON THAT. AS FAR AS TRANSFERRING IT WON'T BE WITH THE ELECTION JUDGES BUT WE CAN DO THAT WITH OUR STAFF IF YOU TAKE THE SECRETARY OF STATE GUIDANCE DOCUMENTATION SUBJECT TO THE RECOUNT THAT'S SECRETARY OF STATE THAT IS THEY E-MAIL THIS TO YOU PURSUANT TO THE

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IT'S HERE'S THE FILE FROM THE RECOUNT AND IT HAS THE ORDER AND THE INDIVIDUALS OF HAZE COUNTY

THAT CONDUCTED THE ACTUAL RECOUNT. >> I AGREEMENT THE WHOLE GOAL OF THIS WOULD BE OVERGLOG ABUNDANCE OF CAUTION NO-NO THIS IS JUST GENERAL CONVERSATIONS.

I'M VERY GRATEFUL THAT I CAN'T I SERVE ON THE COUNTY ELECTIONS BOARD AND I'M THE CHAIR OF THIS COURT I CAN'T GET IT A WITH A FR IT SO THE MORE SATISFIED THESE INDIVIDUALS ARE THE BETTER WE WILL ALL BE SO IF WE DON'T HAVE TOED ADRESS THIS I THANK YOU FOR YOUR WILLINGNESS TO WORK WITH THE CONCERNS AND DID WE MISS NATION NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED OR OR WAS BROUGHT UP.

>> I APPRECIATE THE ANSWERS. I DON'T THINK WE CAN OVERDUE THE DOCUMENTATION SIDE.

I THINK IF FIND A PROCESS ESPECIALLY NEW TO US SINCE WE GET IN HALF PAPER REAL PAPER BALLOTS THESE PAST I GUESS TWO ELECTIONS NOW. THAT WHICH I WAS VERY SUPPORTIVE OF THE EQUIPMENT AND METHOD OF VOTING THAT WE'RE USING IT'S NEW TO US AND WE SHOULD DEVELOP AS MANY DOCUMENTS AND PROCEDURES THAT WE POSSIBLY CAN, AS WE MOVE FORWARD ESPECIALLY KNOWING THAT THIS IS -- THIS IS NEW. AND I THINK THAT I THINK THE EQUIPMENT IS WORKING WELL.

I'M SATISFIED WITH IT. I KNOW PEOPLE ARE GETTING USED TO IT.

THERE'S SLOW VOTING EARLY BUT I THINK WE SHOULD DO EVERYTHING WE POSSIBLEKY TO DOCUMENT WHAT WE DO ESPECIALLY IN THOSE BALLOTS IN THE EVENT SOMEONE WANTS THEM RECOUNTSED AND I PARTICIPATED IN RECOUNT MYSELF SO I UNDERSTAND YOU WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE ARE LOCKED UP THE WAY THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO BE THE I WOULD APPRECIATE YOU TAKING CARE OF TAT AND APPRECIATE ALL YOUR

ANSWERS. >> WELL I WANT TO ASSURE YOU THAT THEY ARE LOCKED UP THE WAY

THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO BE. >> LIKE I SAID I WITNESSED IT. WHEN SOMEONE -- IT IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT IN THE TIMES OF TODAY OR HAVE MAGNIFIED THIS ISSUE, WHICH IT SHOULD BE SO I SAY WE TAKE IT -- LIKE I SAID I DON'T THINK WE OVERDUE IT ENOUGH ESPECIALLY IN THE TIMES.

>> COULDN'T AGREE WITH YOU MORE COMMISSIONER. NOW TO CLOSE UP W THE COMPLIMENT I PAID COMMISSIONER INGALSBE ON HER PRECINCT HAVING THAT DROPOFF SITE, I THINK THIS IS A PLACE WHERE YOU CAN TALK ABOUT IT AND I WANT ASK MR. KENNEDY BUT IF YOU DON'T LEAVE THE PODIUM, I WANTED TO ASK MR. KENNEDY WHAT WE CAN DO TO SPECIFICALLY UNDER THIS COVID-19 DISASTER DECLARATION HEALTH CARE CRISIS THAT WE'RE UNDER IF THERE'S A WAY TO GET THE COUNTY CLERKS OFFICE DEPUTIZED SOMEHOW TO SUPPORT THE DROPPING OFF OF THE BOXES IN EACH COMMISSIONERS

PRECINCT. WE WOULD ONLY NEED THREE MORE. >> WE DISCUSSED THIS I BELIEVE LAST COURT AS WELL AND I THINK THE STATUTE IS PRETTY CLEAR WE HAVE IT AT THE ONE OFFICE.

THERE IS SOME PROVISION THAT OFFICE COULD BE MOVED BUT NOT OUTSIDE OF THE COUNTY SEAT NOT OUTSIDE OF THE CITY WITHIN WHICH THAT OFFICE IS LOCATED. AND THAT'S A PRETTY I THINK JENNIFER IS BEING A LITTLE NICE WHEN SHE TALKED ABOUT THESE OTHER COUNTIES.

I THINK THERE'S A HIGH RISK OF ELECTION CONTESTS IN THOSE COUNTIES BECAUSE OF THE WAY THEY ARE CONDUCTING IT. I'M NOT SURE THE COUNTY CLERK MANAGEMENT OF ELECTIONS IN THOSE

COUNT SAYS GOING TO SAVE THEM FROM THAT. >> I WAS JUST REFERRING TO

SPECIFICALLY THE BOX ONLY. >> THAT'S WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT.

>> I'VE SEEN SOME DEBATE ON THAT AND OTHER COUNTIES WHO HAVE SORT OF CHOSEN 20 ACCEPT THAT OPINION THAT THEY HAVE COME UP WITH ON THEIR OWN THAT IN THOSE COUNTIES WITH THE COUNTY CLERK RUNS ELECTIONS WHICH LIKE TRAVIS COUNTY FOR INSTANCE IS ONE OF THOSE THEY ARE USING THE LANGUAGE IN THAT STATUTE TO SAY ANY OFFICE IN WHICH THERE IS COUNTY CLERK OFFICE IS ONE WHERE THEY COULD ACCEPT MAIL-IN BALLOTS NOW I DON'T KNOW IF THEY HAVE IN THE PAST ACCEPT MAIL-IN

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>> I'M THINKING BECAUSE OF COVID SPECIFICALLY. >> IF I HAVE SEEN ANY COUNTIES WHEN EAS TO DECIDE TO ESTABLISH MULTIPLE EA BOXES. IT'S ONLY BEEN THOSE WHERE THE COUNTY CLERK IS THE ELECTIONS OFFICIAL AND I THINK EVEN THERE SINCE THEY ARE MAKING THIS THIS STATEMENT OF THE THIS OPINION I'M ASSUMING THAT IN THE PAST THEY HAVEN'T DONE IT THAT WAY BECAUSE IF THEY DID THEY WOULDN'T BE TALKING ABOUT IT IT WOULD BE BUSINESS AS USUAL DROP MAIL-IN BALLOT IN ANY COUNTY OFFICE AS LONG AS THERE'S A COUNTY CLERK SUBSTATION THERE.

SO I THINK MR. KENNEDY IS PROBABLY RIGHT. THERE'S PROBABLY A FAIR GRAY AREA OF THE LAW. I DON'T THINK HIS INTERPRETATION MR. KINNEY'S INTERPRETATION OF ELECTIONS IN -- IS GRAVE. I THINK IT'S FAIRLY BLACK AND WHITE.

I WOULD LOVE TO BE ABLE TO HAVE OTHER LOCATIONS TOO BECAUSE I WOULD THINK IT WITH MAKE IT EASIER FOR VOTERS. IT BRINGS UP A WHOLE ANOTHER ISSUE IF YOU START DEVELOPING SITES WHERE WHERE THEY PUT THE BALLOT IN THE BOX THE CUSTOMARILY IT'S BEEN HAND DELIVERED TO THE OFFICE OR UNITED STATES POSTAL SERVICE WHICH WE FOE HAS MANY LAWS THAT PROTECT TRANSFER OF OUR MAIL. IF WE JUST DEVELOP SOME YOU WOULD NEED ANOTHER SEAL.

OF COURSE. >> WE WANT TO MAKE SURE SOMEONE IS TRACKING THAT BOX AND EVERY NIGHT IS TAKEN TO THE ELECTIONS OFFICE I THINK ON SITE THAT IT'S GIVE FOR THE TO GET AN EFFICIENT SYSTEM. IF THEY ARE VOTING IN THEY MAY LIKELY BE THOSE NOT WANTING TO COME IN CONTACT WITH PEOPLE SO HOW DO WE SATISFY THE WITH THEM GOING INTO A BUILDING WITH PEOPLE GOING IN AND OUT SO I THINK THAT'S A GOOD IDEA OF HOW WE RESEARCH THAT IF WE CAN MAKE IT CLEAR TO WHERE WE HAVE PLENTY OF SPACE AND THERE'S A HUGE SIGN THAT SAYS DELIVER YOUR MAIL HERE

AND NOT SOMEONE THAT SAYS HERE'S MY BALLOT. >> I WOULD TEND TO AGREE WITH YOU. I THINK SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN LOST IN THIS CONVERSATION THAT'S VERY CLEAR IN THE STATUTE AND YOU MENTIONED IT THIS MORNING IS THE FACT YOU HAVE SOMEBODY STANDING THERE TO TAKE THE BALLOT TO VERIFY THE IDENTITY TO DO EVERYTHING YOU WOULD DO IN TO VOTE ON THE SCREEN. WOULD YOU GO THROUGH THE WHOLE PROCESS EXCEPT THE SCREEN TOUCH AND SCAN YOUR BALLOT. WHEN YOU DROP ONE OF THESE BALLOTS.

SO I WOULD HAVE THOSE SAME CONCERNS. >> ALSO ON ELECTION DAY TO HAVE THE BALLOTS OPENED UP, PROCESSED AND SCAN THEM AND HAVE THEM READY BY 7:00 WOULD SHALL

CHALLENGING. >> I BELIEVE THE REASON THIS HAS BECOME AN ISSUE IS THE POSTAL SERVICE ITSELF. COY INDIVIDUAL WAS ONE THING. DON'T WANT ELDERLY VOTERS SHOWING UP IN BUSY OFFICE BUILDING WITH THEIR BALLOT. THEY ARE VOTING BY MAIL FOR A REASON. THEIR CONCERN IS THE POSTAL SERVICE AND TIMING OF THAT.

THAT IS WHERE PEOPLE HAVE A CONCERN WITH IS, IF I STICK THAT IN THAT BLUE BOX IS IT GOING TO GET DELIVERED TO THE ELECTIONS OFFICE BY ELECTION DAY. IF NOT IF IT ARRIVES AFTER ELECTION DAY IT COULD STILL ARRIVE IS THAT ZPLEECT YES IF IF IT'S STILL POST MARKED IT'S

COUNTED. >> BUT IN THE UNTIL ELECTION DAY.

>> WOULD YOU TELL US BY AN E-MAIL AFTER THE ELECTION IS OVER BECAUSE WE'LL STILL ALL BE

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WOULD YOU GIVE US THE HEAD COUNT WHENEVER YOU GET IT? >> YOU MIGHT NEED TO REMIND ME.

IT GETS VERY BUSY. YES. >> COMMISSIONER, ANY OTHER

QUESTIONS ON THINGS DISCUSSED? ADDRESSING THESE CONCERNS? >> EVEN THOUGH WE WERE SHORT ON A DISCUSSION EARLY ON WITH THE CONCERNS THAT WERE RAISED. SORRY I DON'T KNOW IT'S ALLERGIES I GUESS. I APPRECIATE JENNIFER YOUR WILLINGNESS AGAIN TO JUST HELP US BECAUSE I AGREEMENT I BELIEVE THAT ELECTION ISSUES THEY CAN FOR A WHILE ANYTHING THAT WE CAN DO TO HELP THEM EASE PEOPLE'S MINDS AND MAYBE EVEN COVER US FOR ANYTHING THAT MAY HAPPEN IN THE FUTURE. I THINK IS REALLY GOOD. AND I JUST HAD ONE QUESTION.

22 MONTHS. CAN ANYONE ACCESS THAT UNDER COURT ORDER?

>> NO, COURT ORDER. >> THIS COURT. >> THANK YOU.

[LAUGHING] >> THANK YOU MISS ANDERSON AND IF THERE'S NO OTHER COMMENTS WE WILL GO ON TO READING THE REST OF THE COMMENTS YOU HAD, DR. CARDENAS.

>> OK. THESE RELATE TO THE DROP BOXES, SO PATRICIA ALBA SAYS TO EASE THE BURDEN OF THE USPS I'M REQUESTING THAT THE HAYS COUNTY COMMISSIONER COURT AUTHORIZE THE HAYS COUNTY ELECTION CLERK TO ESTABLISH ONE OR MORE DRIVETHROUGH AREAS FOR DELIVERY OF MAIL-IN BALLOTS FOR THE NOVEMBER 2020 ELECTION. ED JENSEN WRITES, PROVIDING DROP BOXES IS AN OPTION IN ADDITION TO USPS DELIVERY MAIL-IN BALLOTS WITH EASEDEN ON USPS AND PROVIDE MORE CONFIDENCE TO VOTERS. TEXAS LAW ALLOWS FOR HAND DELIVERY OF BALLOTS TO THE ELECTIONS CLERKS OFFICE ON ANY DAY THE POLLS AND THE ELECTIONS OFFICE ARE OPENED.

THIS IS MOST CERTAINLY AN OPTION I WOULD USE FOR DELIVERING MY COMPLETED BALLOT BECAUSE UNFORTUNATELY DROPPING MY BALLOT FOR THE UPCOMING ELECTION IN THE U.S. MAIL COMES WITH TIMING AND DELIVERY UNCERTAINTIES. PLEASE DO WHAT IS REQUIRED TO PROVIDE MAIL-IN BALLOT DROP BOXES FOR HAYS COUNTY VOTERS. THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.

>> CERTAINLY. WHAT WAS THE NAME OF THAT ONE? >> THIS ONE IS ANN JENS HE BE.

>> JENSEN. >> AND MARGOT CASE WRITES, I'M WRITING YOU AS A CONCERNED CITIZEN REGULAR VOTER AND RESIDENT OF A PRECINCT 315 HAYS COUNTY.

DUE TO THE CURRENT LEVEL MISTRUST IN OUR U.S. POSTAL SERVICE TO DELIVER BALANCE A TIMELY MANNER AND MANY PEOPLE'S FEARS OF GOING INSIDE THE GOVERNMENT CENTER TO BRING THEIR MAIL-IN BALLOTS TO THE ELECTIONS OFFICE DUE TO COVID-19, I AM ASKING THAT THE COMMISSIONER COURT CONSIDER A DRIVETHROUGH DROPOFF FOR VOTE BY MAIL BALLOTS, WHICH WOULD SOLVE THESE PROBLEMS. I FEEL STRONGLY THAT OUR VOTING CITIZENS NEED THIS ADDITION IN ORDER TO FILL THEIR VOTE IS SECURE AND WILL ACTUALLY BE COUNTED.

WE AS VOTING AMERICANS DESERVE HAD ASSURANCE AND THIS OPTION WOULD PROVIDE THIS.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION. LINDA NICHOLS SAYS I'M NOT SURE THE ABOVE IS THE APPROPRIATE TERMINOLOGY. DRIVETHROUGH BALLOT BOXES I GUESS SHE MEANS. AT ANY RATE, I WOULD LIKE TO BE ABLE TO DROP MY MAIL-IN BALLOT AT A SECURE DROP-IN WITHOUT HAVING TO ENTER A BUILDING TO DO SO.

I'M STILL VERY MUCH AFRAID OF GOING INTO BUILDINGS. WHEN GROCERY SHOPPING I RUN IN AND OUT FREQUENTLY. I'M SO CONCERNED ABOUT BEING INSIDE WITH OTHERS THAT I FORGET THINGS I NEEDED TO BUY. I'VE HAD ONLY LIMITED SUCCESS WITH ONLINE GROCERY SHOPPING.

I CANNOT STAND IN LINE BECAUSE THE LINES FOR VOTING ARE ALWAYS SO DENSELY PACKED THAT SOCIAL DISTANCING IS SIMPLY IMPOSSIBLE. I'M 72 AND HAVE AGENCY MA AND DON'T FEEL THAT IED BE FORCED TO IMPAIR MY HEALTH BY EITHER STANDING IN LINE OR ENTERING A BUILDING REGARDLESS OF HOW SPACIOUS IT MAY SEEM TO BE. AIR CIRCULATES AND WITH THE AIR GOES THE VIRUS.

PLEASE, FOR THE HEALTH OF HAYS COUNTY CITIZENS PROVIDE PLACES WHERE WE CAN SAFELY DEPOSIT OUR MAIL-IN BALLOTS SO WE CAN BE ASSURED OUR VOTES WILL COUNT. JONATHAN GRANT THE AS I HOPE THAT FOR THE UPCOMING ELECTION YOU WILL PROVIDES FOR A DRIVETHROUGH OPTION OF HAND DELIVERY OF MAIL BALLOTS TO THE ELECTIONS CLERK OFFICE AND THIS OPTION WILL BE AVAILABLE.

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IRENE SVELLA SAYS THERE'S A LOT OF CONFUSION AND UNCERTAINTY ABOUT WHETHER USPS WILL BE ABLE TO MAIL BALLOTS TO THE ELECTIONS OFFICE ON A TIMELY BASIS THIS NOVEMBER.

USING DROP BOXES IN LIEU OF USPS COMPLETED MAIL-IN BALLOTS WOULD EASE THE BURDEN ON USP AND PROVIDE MORE CONFIDENCE TO VOTERS BUT NOT ALLOWED USE FOR DROP BOXES.

EX-TEXAS LAW DOES HOURV ALLOW FOR HAND DELIVERY OF BALLOTS TO THE ELECTIONS CLERKS FS ON ANY DAY THE POLLS ARE OPEN. UNFORTUNATELY THE VAST MAJORITY OF TEXANS WHO VOTE BY MAIL ARE EITHER ELDERLY OR DISABLED AND THEREFORE BY DEFINITION ARE EXTREMELY VULNERABLE TO COV COVID-19. MANY OF THESE VOTERS DO NOT FEEL SAFE ENTERING ANY BUILDING.

THE TRAVIS COUNTY ELECTIONS AND STATESMEN AND MAKES SENSE TO ASK THE HAYS COUNTY ELECTIONS CLERK TO CONSIDER DOING THE SAME. I REALIZE THAT THIS IS NOT A SIMPLE MATTER OF PUTTING A BOX IN FRONT OF A BUILDING BUT HAVING A SAFE DRIVETHROUGH DELIVERY OPTION WOULD BE HELPFUL EVEN IF IT WERE AVAILABLE ONLY A FEWS A DAY FOR VOTING AND ON ELECTION DAY.

IT COULD BE ESPECIALLY HELPFUL IF DRIVETHROUGH OPTIONS WERE AVAILABLE YOUR CONSIDERATION.

>> THANK YOU, MA'AM. JUST TO KEEP THE VIEWING AUDIENCE FOLLOWING ALONG, MY INTERPRETATION AND MR. KENNEDY -- CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG -- IS THAT WE CAN HAVE A DROPOFF BOX IN PRECINCT ONE GOVERNMENT CENTER SPECIFICALLY AND ONLY BECAUSE THAT IS WHERE ELECTIONS ADMINISTRATION HAS ITS BUILDING OFFICE. AND ALTHOUGH THE IDEA IS GOOD FOR THE COUNTY CLERKS TO DO THE OTHER THREE IN PRECINCTS, APPARENTLY, IT'S CONSIDERED DEBATABLE AND GRAY AND SHOULDN'T BE PURSUED BY THIS COURT. IS THAT A GOOD SUMMARY,

MR. KENNEDY? >> IT'S NOT DEBATEABLE N THIS COUNTY.

I THINK IT'S DEBATABLE IN COUNT WRIZ THE COUNTY CLERK IS CONDUCTING -- COUNTIES WHERE THE COUNTY CLERK IS CONDUCTING ELECTIONS. I WOULD ADVISE CAUTION IN THAT REGARD, SUCH AS PERHAPS AS COMMISSIONER SHELL MENTIONED HISTORICALLY HAVE BEEN CONDUCTED. BUT ALSO HOW THE DEFINITION OF THE OFFICE OF THE EARLY VOTING STORED OR MOVED. THERE ARE PROVISIONS IN THE CODE THAT SEEM TO INDICATE THERE'S ONE LOCATION IN MIND INCLUDING AS MENTIONED EARLIER THE PROVISION THAT IF NEED BE, THAT MOVE THE OFFICE OF THE EARLY VOTING CLERK WITHIN THE CITY WHERE IT'S THED.

THAT WOULD BE SAN MARCOS IN THIS CASE. SO YOU'LL RECALL LAST MEETING WE TALKED ABOUT THE POSSIBILITY FOR INSTANCE OF PUTTING OUT FRONT, YOU KNOW, WHERE WE MIGHT HAVE THE BUILDING OR NEAR THE BUILDING TO FACILITY STATE KIND OF COVID-19 CDC RECOMMENDATIONS, THOSE KIND OF THINGS. SO I DON'T THINK THAT'S WHAT JENNIFER ANDERSON WAS REFERENCINGING EARLIER HOW THEY ARE GOING TO PROVIDE MEANS OF ENTRY THAT IS NOT THROUGH

SECURITY AND ALL THAT. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. SO IF THERE'S NO OTHER COMMENTS WE'RE GOING TO OPEN OUR FOUR EXECUTIVE SESSION ITEMS BECAUSE WE WILL HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING SCHEDULED FOR 1:00 P.M. AND I THINK WE CAN MAKE IT THROUGH EXECUTIVE SESSION BEFORE THAT

[EXECUTIVE SESSIONS]

40, 41 4, 2 AND 43. >> OK. 40.

EXECUTIVE SESSION PURSUANT TO SECTIONS 551.071 AND 551.07 THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE CONSULTATION REGARDING PAYROLL TAX DEFERRAL IRS NOTICE 2020-65 AS AMENDED UNDER SECTION 7508-A UDER THE INTERNAL REVENUE CODE AND CONSULTATION WITH COUNCIL DELIBERATION ALL POSITIONS IN THE COUNTY. POSSIBLE DISCUSSION AND/OR ACTION MAY FOLLOW IN OPEN COURT.

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>> AND IF YOU ARE DIRECTLY TIED TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 40, YOU MAY STAY.

OTHERWISE, PLEASE CLEAR THE COURTROOM. WE'RE GOING INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION.

>> WE ARE BACK FROM EXECUTIVE SESSION AND I THINK WE HAVE A MOTION FROM EXECUTIVE MOTION.

>> I WANT TO MAKE A MOTION THAT HAYS COUNTY NOT PARTICIPATE IN THE PAYROLL REDUCTION Ã

>> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ANY OTHER COMMENTS?LEASE CALL THE ROLE. SUE MET COMMISSIONER JONES. ES.

COMMISSIONER SHELL. YES. COMMISSIONER SMITH.

[39. 1:00p.m. - Hold a public hearing on the FY 2021 proposed tax increase. BECERRA]

>> AT THIS POINT IN TIME WE ARE GOING TO ASK THAT YOU OPEN AGENDA ITEM 39.

>> NUMBER 39 HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING ON THE FY 2020 TAX INCREASE.

>> IF THERE IS ANYONE HERE TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS AGENDA ITEM PLEASE APPROACH THE PODIUM AND SEEING NO MOVEMENT I WILL ASK ÃWE HAVE 2 FORMS JUST HANDED TO ME.

OKAY. WOULD YOU PLEASE READ THE EMAIL COMMENTS?

>> WE HAVE ONE COMMENT RELATED TO THE HEARING AND IT SAYS THIS IS FROM VICTORIA CHIPS THAT SAID NOT IN SUPPORT OF TAX INCREASE. SUE MIKE THAT'S EFFICIENT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AND OUR AUDITOR'S OFFICE HAS JUST SENT OUT SOME DOCUMENTATION FOR US TO GO OVER IN A MINUTE BUT IF THERE IS NO ONE ELSE TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS AGENDA ITEM I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. OR IS THIS IS TIME TO DISCUSS THOSE ITEMS? I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT IF YOU DON'T MIND GIVING US THE

HIGHLIGHTS OF THE HANDOUT YOU JUST PROVIDED THE COURT. >> SO THE DOCUMENTS THAT I PREPARED FOR TODAY'S HEARING FIRST OF ALL ÃON OUR WEBSITE THE COURT DID VOTE AUGUST 25 FOR A PROPOSED TAX RATE OF 42.12 THE NO NEW REVENUE RATE IS AT 43.3 AND THE VOTER TAX RATE IS 42.97 SO IN YOUR HANDOUTS THAT I PREPARED I DID REVISE ACTUALLY THE DEFINITIONS OF THOSE BASICALLY THE REVENUE RATE IS THE ÃEFFECTIVE TAX RATE THE SAME AMOUNT OF REVENUE THAT WOULD BE CALCULATED BASED ON WHERE NO ONE WOULD GET AN INCREASE UNLESS YOU HAD RECEIVED A HIGHER ÃSO THAT IS THE NO NEW REVENUE RATE THE VOTER APPROVAL RATE IS THE ÃIS SET AT 3 AND A HALF PERCENT THAT'S WHAT SENATOR BILL 2 THE JUST PASSED RECENTLY IN THE LEGISLATURE WHICH REQUIRES US WE WERE TO INCREASE OUR NO NEW REVENUE RATE BY 3 AND A HALF PERCENT IT WOULD BE TAKEN BACK TO THE VOTERS FOR APPROVAL SO THIS USED TO BE CAPPED AT EIGHT PERCENT AND WITH THAT NEW LEGISLATURE THAT WAS DROPPED DOWN TO 3 AND A HALF PERCENT.

>> I WANT TO DOUBLE DOWN ON SOME CLARIFICATION IT'S NOT 3 AND A HALF PERCENT THAT WAS PASSED FOR LEGISLATION. IT'S NOT A CAP, WE CAN CALL IT A TRIGGER, THAT'S WHAT I HEARD ONE TIME THAT INDIVIDUALS ACTUALLY RUNNING FOR OFFICE AND IT'S A GOOD POINT.

YOU CAN GO HIGHER BUT IT NEEDS TO GO TO THE VOTERS BUT HISTORICALLY WE HAVE BEEN

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EFFICIENT. >> AND AGAIN THIS YEAR THEY ARE PROPOSING A RATE LOWER THAN THAT REPORTABLE TAX RATE SO WE ARE NOT REQUIRED TO GO OUT TO THE VOTERS FOR APPROVAL. WE ARE REQUIRED TO HAVE A TAX RATE HEARING BECAUSE WE DID EXCEED THE NO NEW REVENUE RATE SO THAT'S WHY WE ARE HERE TODAY.

THIS RATE IS A NEW REQUIREMENT IT IS NOT ANYTHING THAT WOULD AFFECT OUR COUNTY IT IS FOR COUNTIES OR CITIES LESS THAN 30,000 IN POPULATION SO IT DOES GIVE THEM SPECIAL CONDITIONS BUT IT'S SOMETHING WE ARE REQUIRED TO STATE ON OUR TAX NOTICE.

I HAVE ALSO INCLUDED A COUPLE OF CHARTS FOR THE COURT I AM MORE THAN HAPPY TO PUT THESE ON OUR WEBSITE IT SHOWS A 20+ YEAR HISTORY OF OUR ADOPTED TAX RATE WHERE WE WERE IN 1999 WAS 4369 AND WHAT THE BOARD IS PROPOSING IS 4212 WHICH IS APPROXIMATELY A LITTLE OVER NINE PERCENT DECREASE OVERALL THE 20 YEARS, MAINTENANCE AND OPERATIONS TAX RATE HISTORY THUS THE AMOUNT OF TAX REVENUE THAT WE ARE ACTUALLY USING TO FUND THE GENERAL FUND DEPARTMENTS UNDER ITS GONE FROM 36.192 29.66 WHICH IS WHAT THE COURT IS PROPOSING WHICH IS OVER 18 PERCENT DECREASE. THE TAX RATE THAT IS BEING PROPOSED 42.12 AND WE WILL HAVE A BUDGET HEARING ON THE 22ND AND THEY WILL BE VOTING ON THE TAX RATE ON THAT DATE IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT THE TAX RATE FROM THIS POINT ON CANNOT GO ANY HIGHER THAN THE 42.12 BUT IT CAN GO LOWER ON THE DATE THAT WE ADOPT.

>> AND JUST FOR CLARIFICATION. THIS PROPOSED RATE THIS BUDGET IS LOWER THAN WHAT WE PASSED

LAST YEAR. >> IT IS A LOWER TAX RATE.

5.25. >> FOR THE VIEWING AUDIENCE THE TAX RATE ALTHOUGH WE ARE INCREASING EVER SO SLIGHTLY FROM THE NO NEW REVENUE TAX RATE IT IS A LOWER TAX RATE THE LAST YEAR'S TAX RATE. AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE.

I WILL SAY IT AGAIN. THE 22ND AT 1 PM WE WILL HAVE OUR BUDGET HEARING AND WE WILL BE OFFICIALLY SETTING THE TAX RATE AND ADOPTING IT. SO EVERYONE WATCHING WHO TOOK THE TIME TO BE HERE YOU WILL SEE IT AND UNDERSTAND IT AND KNOW THAT THERE'S A LOT OF CARE AND CONCERN AND OF COURSE WITH ANYTHING WITH MONEY NEGOTIATIONS GO ON AND IT IS COMING TO A CLOSE ON THE 22ND AT 1 PM WILL BE THE OFFICIAL CLOSING OF THE BOOKS ON THAT FRONT. COMMISSIONERS, ANY COMMENTS?

>> GO AHEAD. >> VICKI, HOW MUCH MORE ARE WE BRINGING IN THIS YEAR THAN LAST YEAR?

>> ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE. [INDISCERNIBLE]? >> HOW MUCH MORE DO WE BRING IN

THAN WE DID LAST YEAR? >> GIVE ME JUST A MINUTE.

>> SHE HAS THAT FANCY HOURGLASS SAYING PLEASE HOLD. >> AND A SECOND QUESTION WHILE YOU ARE LOOKING THAT UP HOW MUCH NEW CONSTRUCTION AND NEW PROPERTIES?

>> WHILE SHE IS DOING THAT I WILL MAKE MINE BECAUSE I THINK IT'S GOOD TO EXPLAIN THE REASON WE ARE HERE IS BECAUSE WE ARE GENERATING MORE REVENUE FROM TAXES WITH THIS TAX RATE THAN THE TAX RATE OF OUR NO NEW REVENUE TAX RATE SO IF WE WERE TO ADOPT THE NO NEW REVENUE TAX RATE WE WOULD BE GENERATING THE SAME AMOUNT OF REVENUE FROM TAXES FROM THE EXISTING PROPERTIES SINCE OUR RATE IS PRODUCING MORE TAX REVENUE IS NOT A RATE INCREASE IT'S A TAX INCREASE THAT'S WHY WE HAVE THIS HEARING TODAY BECAUSE WE WILL BE TAKING IN MORE MONEY

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>> IT'S GOOD TO ARTICULATE THAT AT EVERY TURN BECAUSE IT'S VERY EASY FOR PEOPLE TO MISS UNDERSTAND WHAT'S BEING SAID AND TO SEE THAT WE LOWERED OUR RATE FROM LAST YEAR'S BUDGET BUT YOU'RE GOING TO PAY. I THINK WE ENDED UP WITH UNDER $40 A YEAR WAS THE AVERAGE AND SO YES. IT'S ABOUT $40 A YEAR PER HOUSE THE AVERAGE HOME BUT THAT'S EFFICIENT AND AT THE END OF THE DAY IT MATCHES THE DEFINITION OF RAISING TAXES TYPICALLY.

SOON WITHOUT THE CLARIFICATION TO ALWAYS MAKE AND THAT'S WHY WE'RE HAVING THIS HEARING BUT IT DOESN'T MEAN AN INDIVIDUAL'S TAXES WOULD HAVE GONE IPAD WE ADOPTED THE NO NEW REVENUE TAX

RATE. >> I WANT TO EXPAND ONE MORE DETAIL ON THAT EVEN IF WE WOULD HAVE GONE A TINY SHAVING LOWER THERE ARE STILL YOUR SCHOOL

DISTRICTS CITIES. >> ESD AND I AM SORRY FOR ALL OF THE LETTERS.BUT THERE ARE A LIST OF TAXING AGENCIES WE ARE TYPICALLY EXCEPTIONALLY LOW ON THE TOTEM POLE AND WE ARE DOING OUR PART BUT IF WE HAD ADOPTED THE NO NEW REVENUE TAX RATE THERE IS A SINCERE OPPORTUNITY TO SEE THAT TOTAL TAX BILL GO UP NO MATTER WHAT.

>> IN THAT TOTAL IS JUST OVER 4.6 MILLION. RELATED TO THE NEW IMPROVEMENTS

4.396. SOON XO >> LESS THAN THAT.

>> WE ARE ABOUT 3.5 MILLION. THAT'S WHAT I'M GUESSING.

>> 3 AND A HALF MILLION WE ARE ABOVE THE EFFECTIVE RATE.

>> I WAS GOING TO SAY I THINK IT WOULD BE GREAT I WISH WE COULD SHARE THEM TODAY ON THE BIG SCREEN BECAUSE WHAT'S INTERESTING IS WHENEVER YOU TALK ABOUT THE CHANGE SINCE 1989 WHEN WE LOOK AT THE ADOPTED TAX RATE HISTORY NOW WE ARE LOOKING AT .4212 BUT IN BETWEEN THERE IT WAS HIGHER AT DIFFERENT TIMES SO WE HAVE HAD WITHIN THE LAST FOUR OR FIVE YEARS WE HAVE HAD A MORE SIGNIFICANT DROP THAN WHAT YOU ANTICIPATE BECAUSE OF THE HIGHEST WE WERE AT 4692 SO FROM 4692 DOWN TO POSSIBLY 4212 AND IT'S THE SAME THING I THINK AT THE HIGHEST IT WAS .392 THAT WAS IN 2005 AND WE ARE A POINT LESS THAN THAT.

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THAT MORE SIGNIFICANTLY. >> IF YOU DON'T MIND BECAUSE YOU ARE HERE AND YOU TOOK THE TIME, YOU FILLED OUT A FORM I WANTED TO ASK IF THERE WAS SOMETHING THAT NEEDED TO BE ELABORATED ON PER MR. LOVE OR MR. BLACKMORE.

HAVE WE SPOKEN ELOQUENTLY ENOUGH ABOUT THE THINGS GOING ON AND HOW THERE ARE TWO PIECES THAT MOVE AND NO ONE IS SAYING NO NEW TAXES NO ONE IS SAYING I AM HOPING PEOPLE DON'T MISUNDERSTAND WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO CONVEY WITH THE MOST CLARITY AND TRANSPARENCY THAT THIS BUDGET IS A COURT AGREED UPON DOCUMENT THAT WE HAVE ALL WORKED ON TOGETHER TO ARRIVE TO THE POINT WHERE WE ARE TODAY WE ARE CONTENT WITH THE RESULTS. DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?IF YOU DO I WILL ASK YOU TO APPROACH THE PODIUM SO WE CAN HEAR YOU.

AND STATE YOUR NAME. >>.

[INDISCERNIBLE] BLACKMORE. THANKS FOR HAVING ME. THEPURPOSE OF ME BEING HERE IS TO UNDERSTAND, I NOTICED LAST NIGHT . [INDISCERNIBLE] A TAX INCREASE ATTRACTS MY ATTENTION IF THERE IS AN INCREASE WITH EVERY GETTING FOR THAT SO THIS HAS BEEN HELPFUL FOR ME TO UNDERSTAND WHERE WE ARE STANDING SO I APPRECIATE YOU

CLARIFYING FOR ME. >> THANK YOU AND THE AVERAGE HOME WHERE I GOT AROUND $40 VICKI CAN TELL US EXACTLY AN INCREASE YEAR-OVER-YEAR IS BASED ON THE AVERAGE HOUSE EVALUATION IN THE COUNTY.

>> I UNDERSTAND VALUES ARE GOING UP.

>> DO YOU HAVE TIME FOR. [INDISCERNIBLE] THE WAY THINGS ARE GOING RIGHT NOW.

[LAUGHTER] >> MY NAME IS JOHN LOVE AND I CAME BECAUSE I COULDN'T UNDERSTAND THE WORDING ON HOW THE TAX RATE IS GOING DOWN BUT THEN THERE'S A TAX INCREASE

>> DID WE CLARIFY? >> YES.

>> THERE WORDING WASN'T OUR CHOICE. THAT'S BY STATUTE HOW THE WORDING HAS TO BE. WE WOULD MAKE IT A LOT SIMPLER IF WE COULD.

>> AND THEY CHANGE IT ALMOST EVERY OTHER YEAR AND IT GETS CONFUSING THEY CHANGE ALL OF THESE DEFINITIONS DURING WHAT THEY CALL SENATE BILL TWO AND CHANGE SCHOOL FINANCING FOR THERE ARE SCHOOL DISTRICTS IN THE COUNTY THAT WERE ABLE TO LOWER THE TAX RATE THIS YEAR.

HERE WERE SOME THAT DIDN'T BUT THAT WAS BECAUSE OF SENATE BILL 2 AND THE REFUNDING OF THE SCHOOL SYSTEMS AND THAT USUALLY WERE A MAJORITY OF SOMEONE'S TAXES GO TO.

IT STARTS WITH THAT I WE GET A NOTICE OF APPRAISAL IN MARCH OR APRIL IT LISTS EVERY TAXING ENTITY THAT YOU LIVE WITHIN AND IT TAKES THE OLD RATE AND MULTIPLIES THAT TIME SURE NEW VALUE AND SAYS THIS IS WHAT YOU ARE EXPECTED TO PAPER THAT'S DEPENDENT ON EACH ONE OF THOSE JURISDICTIONS SO WE GO THROUGH THIS TIME SO THEY MAY HAVE LOWERED THE RATE BY A CENT OR TWO AND MAYBE YOU PAY 30 MORE DOLLARS TO THE COUNTY. YOU MAY PAY LESS AT YOUR SCHOOL THAT COULD HAPPEN SOMEBODY MIGHT BE LESS IN TOTAL TAXES WHICH WOULD PROBABLY BE THE FIRST TIME IN A LONG TIME BUT THAT WOULD BE HOW THEY FINANCE THE SCHOOLS AND ALSO THERE ARE EXEMPTIONS AND THERE ARE TAX REASONS AT THE SCHOOL DISTRICT FOR ANYONE OVER 65 OR DISABLED.

YOUR TAXES ARE FROZEN SO REGARDLESS OF WHAT THE RATE DOES OVER YOUR PROPERTY YOU DON'T PAY ANY MORE TAXES FROM THE POINT YOU ARE 65 AND OLDER AND THE COUNTY ADOPTED THAT SYSTEM SIX OR SEVEN YEARS AGO SO ANYONE OVER 65 AND DISABLED THEY WILL NEVER PAY MORE IN TAXES TO THE COUNTY THAN THEY DID THE YEAR BEFORE THEY TURNED 65 REGARDLESS OF WHAT HAPPENS.

>> JUST TO DOUBLE DOWN ON THAT CLARIFICATION ON THE TAX RATE INCREASE WE ARE ABOUT TO CLOSE

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VALUES. >> THE MEETING ON THE 22ND BE MADE AVAILABLE TO THE BUDGET TO PUBLIC.

>> IT IS ON THE WEBSITE. >> AND THAT WILL BE AS IT IS THERE COULD BE ADJUSTMENTS MADE THAT DAY IN COURT.

>> THEY CANNOT RESULT IN AN INCREASE THAT HAS BEEN PUBLISHED IN THIS HEARING.

THAT TAX RATE CANNOT GO UP BASED ON CHANGES WE MADE TO THE BUDGET O IT IS LOCKED IN AT

THIS POINT. >> SO WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT PUBLIC COMMENTS WE HAVE READ THOSE THAT WERE EMAILED AND WE WENT OVER THE REPORT AND WE TALKED ABOUT THE 22ND AT 1 PM. WHAT ELSE IS LEFT? WE WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

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