Jul 07, 2020 Regular

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>> GOOD MORNING. I'D LIKE TO CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER.

THIS INVOCATION WILL BE LED BY THE REVEREND IF THE UNITED METHODIST CHURCH.

PLEASE ALL RISE. >> GOOD MORNING. >> I GREET YOU IN THE NAME OF OUR SAVIOR JESUS CHRIST. WE ARE LIVING IN TROUBLING TIMES.

WE ARE FACING A WORLDWIDE HEALTH CRISIS. AND CURRENTS HAVE DIVIDED ALMOST -- CORONAVIRUS HAS DIVIDED ALMOST EVERY COUNTRY IN THE WORLD AND WHY SCIENTISTS AND POLITICIANS ARE TRYING TO REMIND US, NO ONE KNOWS THE CROUT COME. THE FUTURE APPEARS BLEAK.

WHAT DO WE DO? HOW DO WE RESPOND? WE RECOGNIZE THAT WE ARE AFRAID BECAUSE POWER, MANY IN KNOWLEDGE ARE NOT SUFFICIENT TO GET US THROUGH THIS PANDEMIC.

WE ARE FIRST TO BE HUMBLE. SEEING HOW LITTLE CONTROL WE HAVE, WE REALLY HAVE.

OUR EYES ARE BEING OPENED TO JUST HOW DEPENDENT WE ARE. AND TO WHO HAS THE REAL POWER? THIS IS A TIME TO BE OPEN TO ALL HE WANTS TO DO IN US ALLOW HIM TO CONFORM US MORE IN THE IMAGE OF CHRIST. IT IS TIME TO BE VIABLE TO ALL HE WANTS TO DO TO US BY THE POWER OF HIS SPIRIT TO MINISTER TO OTHERS WHO ARE IN PAIN, CONFUSED, AND LOST.

THAT IS WITH US. HE WILL NEVER FORSAKE US. HE PROMISES TO BE WITH US TILL THE END OF TIME. HE WILL GIVE US THE POWER, WISDOM, COMFORT AND COURAGE -- ENCOURAGEMENT WE NEED. WE CAN STAND ON HIS PROMISES, AND BUILD OUR LIVES IN CHRIST, WHO IS THE SOLID ROCK. GOD HAS CHOSEN TO PLACE US HERE DURING A TIME THIS.

MAY WE BE OVERFLOWED BY THE HOLY SPIRIT'S POWER AND POUR BLESSING LIFE AND HOPE TO ALL THOSE WHO COME TO US SEEKING JUSTICE AND PEACE. GOD HAS NOT CAUSED THIS PANDEMIC BUT HE CAN HELP US TRANSFORM INTO AN EXPERIENCE THAT HELP US TO BE MORE SPIRITUAL AND STRONG.

LET US PRAY. HEAVENLY FATHER, THINGS AROUND US ARE BEING SHAKEN, BUT YOU ARE UNSHAKEABLE. WE CHOOSE FATE, NOT FEAR. WE CHOOSE TO TRUST YOU.

HELP US USE OUR TIMEWISELY. -- TIME WISE. WE LOOK TO YOU TO PROVIDE FOR OUR NEEDS AND ARE TOTALLY DEPENDENT ON YOU. WE PRAY THAT YOU BE MANIFESTED IN US. WE ASK TO BE MADE MORE LIKE CHRIST.

TEACH US WHAT YOU WANT US TO LEARN. CHANGE US TO FIT YOUR KINGDOM.

THANK YOU FOR THE BLESSINGS IN THIS TRIAL. WE BELIEVE IN YOU.

WE TRUST IN YOUR MERCY AND PROMISES, AND TO YOU WE ALL HONOR AND -- BE ALL HONOR, GLORY

NOW AND FOREVER. AMEN. >> I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

HONOR THE TEXAS FLAG. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE TEXAS ONE STATE UNDER GOD, ONE INDIVISIBLE. DR. PANERAS, WILL YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

>> COMMISSIONER INTIONSALS BY. >> HERE. >> COMMISSIONER JONES.

>> HERE. >> COMMISSIONERS SHELL. >> COMMISSIONER SMITH.

>> HERE. >> JUDGE BECERRA. >> HERE.

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SILENCE YOUR CELL PHONES. FIRST UP TO SPEAK, MR. DAN LYON. >> THANK YOU JUDGE BECERRA AND COMMISSIONERS. AS THE ECONOMIC CRISIS DEEPENS IN THE COUNTY, THERE'S NOT EVEN A HINT OF TAX RELIEF FROM THE COMMISSIONERS COURT. AS A MATTER OF FACT, PROPOSED TAXES ARE HIGHER THAN EVER. WE'VE SEEN THE COURT ALLOCATE HALF A MILLION DOLLARS OF OUR MONEY TO THE GREATER SAN MARCOS PARTNERSHIP TO DISTRIBUTE TO SELECT BUSINESSES IN NEED.

ADDING TO THE ALREADY CRUSHING BURDEN ON HOMEOWNERS. AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 17, THE EMERGENCY CASH SYSTEMS PROGRAM WILL FURTHER ADD TO THE HOMEOWNERS BURDEN.

IF YOU WANT TO HELP THE POOR IN HAYS COUNTY THEN WHY DON'T YOU TAKE A PAY CUT? THE MEDIAN INCOME FOR FAMILIES IN SAN MARCOS IS ABOUT $35,000 PER YEAR WHILE ALL OF YOU MAKE WELL OVER $80,000 PER YEAR. NOT BAD FOR SOMEONE WHO CAN'T BALANCE A BUDGET EVEN THOUGH THROUGH THE USE OF SEMANTICS YOU WILL CLAIM THAT YOU DO. ALL YOU ARE DOING WITH OUR MONEY IS REDISTRIBUTING IT WHILE MAKING A LARGE CUT FOR YOURSELVES.

THIS IS CALLED SOCIALISM. AND EVEN THE THREE SO-CALLED CONSERVATIVE REPUBLICANS ARE FOR IT. YOU GIVE TAX BREAKS TO BIG BUSINESSES SUCH AS AMAZON AND PLACE THE TAX BURDEN ON HOMEOWNERS. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE NOTICED, BUT MANY BUSINESSES ARE SHUT DOWN WITH OTHERS OPERATING AT HALFED.

THIS MEANS THAT WE HAVE MANY UNEMPLOYED AND WHEN THEIR BENEFITS RUN OUT THEY WILL BE DESPERATE. EVEN IF THE CRIS WAS TO END TODAY THE DAMAGE IS DONE TO HOMEOWNERS AND NO ONE KNOWS WHEN IT WILL END -- CRISIS. ALTHOUGH I SUSPECT IT WILL END AROUND NOVEMBER 4TH. IT SEEMS TO BE OBVIOUS TO EVERYONE IN HAYS COUNTY WITH THE CEPTION EXCEPTION OF THE COMMISSIONERS COURT AND THE SCHOOL BOARDS THAT IN ORDER TO AVOID CATASTROPHE, TAXES AND SPENDING MUST BE DRASTICALLY CUT.

IF YOU DON'T THERE WILL BE A WAVE OF FORECLOSURES NEXT YEAR. YOU CANNOT CONTINUE TO, QUOTE, WHISTLE PAST THE GRAVEYARD UNQUOTE HOPING NOTHING HAPPENS. I'VE BEEN UP HERE FOR YEARS TELLING YOU THAT YOU NEED TO PAY DOWN DEBT AND ALL YOU DID WAS IGNORE ME WHILE THE DEBT CLIMBED HIGHER AND HIGHER. EVEN YOU STILL DON'T GET IT. YOU HAVE SOWN TO THE WIND AND

NOW YOU WILL REAP THE WHIRLWIND. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> THANK YOU, MR. LYON.

NEXT UP, MISS CHRISTINE TERRELL. >> GOOD MORNING COMMISSIONERS AND JUDGE "BROAD CITY." CHRISTINETER RELS FROM -- CHRISTINE TERRELLS FROM TEXAS. TODAY I WANT TO TALK ABOUT AN IDEA ASSOCIATESED WITH DR. MARTIN LUTHER KING, JR. FROM THE EARLY DAYS OF HIS POOR PEOPLE'S CAMPAIGN. THE IDEA IS A SIMPLE ONE. BUDGETS ARE MORAL DOCUMENTS.

WE ASSUME BUDGETS ARE STRICTLY FINANCIAL DOCUMENTS, BUT WHERE AND HOW WE CHOOSE TO SPEND OUR MONEY IS, IN FACT, BOTH A MORAL AND POLITICAL ACT. WHETHER IT'S A HOUSEHOLD OR COUNTY GOVERNMENT, WHAT WE PRIORITIZE WITH OUR SPENDING SAYS A LOT ABOUT WHO WE ARE.

BUDGETS ARE MORAL DOCUMENTS. THE COUNTY'S FISCAL BUDGET IS $380 MILLION AND REFLECTS A $60 MILLION INCREASE FROM 2019. ACCORDING TO THE HAYS COUNTY WEBSITE THIS $60 MILLION IS LARGELY FOR PERSONNEL AND EQUIPMENT FOR EXPAND AND RENOVATED COUNTY JAIL AND NEW PUBLIC SAFETY BUILDING, AND AS FAR AS I CAN TELL, THIS IS MONEY ABOVE AND BEYOND $110 MILLION BOND FOR THE NEW FACILITY ITSELF BRINGING IT TO $170 MILLION FOR RENOVATIONS IN A NEW FACILITY THAT WILL BE UNDER CAPACITY BASED ON OUR CURRENT JAIL POPULATION.

WHAT OUR 2020 COUNTY BUDGET SAYS TO ME IS WE PRIORITIZE LOCKING UP OUR FRIENDS, FAMILY AND NEIGHBORS THAT OFFENSES LIKE LOW-LEVEL POT POSSESSION OR DRIVING WITH A SUSPENDED LEVEL DRIVE TO A ALEVEL OF GRAVE CONCERNS AND NOW SOMEBODY IS THINKING DAMN RIGHT DO THE CRIME

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THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR TIME AND YOUR SERVICE TO THE COUNTY. I KNOW IT'S A COMPLEX JOB WITH COMPLICATED AND FRAUGHT DECISIONS. I HOPE IN ALL YOUR FUTURE BUDGETARY MEETINGS YOU BRING DR. KING'S IDEA WITH YOU THAT BUDGETS ARE MORAL DOCUMENTS.

[BEEPING] >> THANK YOU, MA'AM. AND OUR LAST SPEAKER IS MISS

LAUREN HALL. >> HELLO AGAIN JUDGE BECERRA AND COMMISSIONERS.

LAST WEEK I CAME BEFORE YOU AND ASKED FOR YOUR VOTE TOED A PUBLIC DEFENDERS OFFICE.

I REMINDED YOU THAT INDIGENT DEFENSE IS THE CIVIL RIGHTS MOVEMENT OF OUR TIME, AND THAT EACH OF YOU HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO THE RIGHT THING. TODAY I'D LIKE TO SHARE WITH YOU WHY THIS IS IMPORTANT TO ME. I GREW UP IN THE BAY AREA OF CALIFORNIA IN THE 1960S.

FOR THOSE OF YOU TOO YOUNG TO KNOW THE BAY AREA WAS THE HOTBED OF THE CIVIL RIGHTS MOVEMENT OF THE 60S AND 70S. MY PARENTS ARE POLITICAL ACTIVISTS THROUGH THE CATHOLIC CHURCH. THEY REGULARLY BROUGHT THE FOUR OF US TO MARCHES ON THE WEEKENDS. ONE POIGNANT MEMORY I HAVE WAS GATHERING WITH MY FAMILY AND THOUSANDS ON THE UC BERKELEY CAMPUS TO HEAR DR. KING SPEAK. I SAT ON THE SHOURLDERS OF MY FATHER -- SHOULDERS OF MY FATHER. LIKE ALL I ATTEND -- WHO THE ATENDED I WAS CAPTIVATED BY THE POWER OF HIS WORDS AND HIS UNSHAKEABLE FAITH, BUT UNLIKE THOSE OLD ENOUGH TO KNOW BETTER, I BELIEVED ALL WHO HEARD HIS WORDS BELIEVED THE SAME, AS I DID. I BELIEVED WE WERE ON THE BRINK OF BUILDING A WORLD IN WHICH EQUAL JUSTICE WAS WHAT IT SOUNDED LIKE. AN 8-YEAR-OLD'S DREAM IS EASY TO EXCUSE. BUT HERE'S THE PART THAT MAKES ME FEEL GUILTY, SICK, HEARTBROKEN AND ASHAMED. FOR 52 YEARS I ALLOWED MYSELF TO REMAIN IT THAT COMFORTABLE DREAM WORLD. MY PRIVILEGED LIFE PERMITTED ME TO RATIONALIZE ACTS OF INJUSTICE I READ IN THE NEWS, AS SINGULAR AND RANDOM. IT WAS QUITE COMFORTABLE FOR ME TO BUY INTO WHAT I WAS SOLD BY POLITICAL LEADERS AND THE MEDIA AND BELIEVE THE FIGHTS FOR EQUAL JUSTICE HAD BEEN WON. AND THEN ON THETH OF MAY SOMETHING HAPPENED TO ME THE VEIL WAS DROPPED WHEN THE MURDER OF GEORGE FLOYD OCCURRED IN ECLIPSE OF ALL THE ACTS OF INJUSTICE I HAD SEEN AND PUSHED FOR MY FIELD OF VISION FOR 52 YEARS CAME ROARING FORTH.

LIKE THOUSANDS IN MY AGE GROUP, WE SAW CLEARLY THAT NOTHING HAD CHANGED.

THE OVERACTS OF LYNCHING MERELY SHIFTED TO LAW ENFORCEMENT THROUGH POLICE FORCE AND THE CREATION OF A DEBTOR'S PRISON, ONE OF WHICH WE HAVE RIGHT HERE IN HAYS COUNTY.

MAY I REMIND YOU OF THE QUESTINS I PUT BLUE LAST WEEK. ARE YOU CONDONING OR NORMALIZING ACTS OF INJUSTICE AGAINST CITIZENS OF HAYS COUNTY? HOW MIGHT YOU BE PARTICIPATING IN SUSTAINING OR ENCOURAGING THOSE ACTS OF INJUSTICE? NOW IS THE TIME COMMISSIONERS TO TAKE ACTIONEDLY ON FUNDING A PUBLIC DEFENDERS OFFICE, WORK TO RELEASE THOSE BEING HELD IN OUR JAIL WHO HAVE NOT YET BEEN SENTENCED. THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK AND

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THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AND IF YOU WILL PLEASE OPEN

AGENDA ITEM NUMBER ONE. >> NUMBER ONE UPDATE FROM THE COUNTY JUDGE AND STAFF RASHDING

[1. Update from the County Judge and staff regarding the Local Disaster Declaration and COVID-19. Possible discussion and action may follow. BECERRA (Part 1 of 2)]

MAY FOLLOW. >> SO AS EVERYONE KNOWS, IF YOU HAVEN'T BEEN AFFECTED BY OR KNOW SOMEONE HAS BEEN AFFECTED BY COVID-19 COUNT YOURSELF AS THE LUCKY ONE BECAUSE I KNOW THAT WE HAVE HAD TREMENDOUS NEGATIVE IMPACTS OF COVID ON A PERSONAL LEVEL FOR MANY OF US, AND IT'S A VERY BIG DEAL AND IT'S A SAD REALITY THAT FOLKS STILL DON'T BELIEVE IN FUNDAMENTALS AND WE'RE NOT GETTING ANY BETTER. AS EVERYONE SAYS AT EVERY LEVEL, MEDICAL, PROFESSIONALS, WE'RE GOING BACKWARDS AND WE'RE GETTING WORSE, AND I FEAR WHAT FOURTH OF JULY WILL BRING FORTH HAD THE NEXT FEW DAYS. I'M GLAD CAPTAIN ABANDO IS HERE TO REPORT ON THE JAIL AND AS WE KNOW, THE HUGE INCREASE IN COVID-19 POSITIVES IN TEXAS HAVE CAUSED THE DISHES, IS THE ACRONYM, THE DEPARTMENTS OF STATE HEALTH SERVICES TO FALL TERRIBLY BEHIND BECAUSE WE ARE A HOT SPOT, AND THAT IS WHY MOVING FORWARD WE HAVE AT THE END OF OUR PERFORMING ARTS CENTER TESTING WE SWITCH TO THE CHEEK SWAB TESTING BECAUSE THEY FELL SO BEHIND THAT IT ALMOST BECAME WORTH THROES CONDUCT THE TESTS THAT THEY WERE CONDUCTSING BECAUSE -- WORTHLESS TO CONDUCT THE TEFTSS THEY WERE CONDUCTING BECAUSE THEY FELL SO HARD BEHIND.

FOR THE TESTING THAT IS GOING ON AT THE HIGH SCHOOL, IT WILL BE A NEW WAY WE'RE WORKING WITH THE STATE ON WILL BE THE CHEEK SWABING TO GET A QUICKER RESPONSE TIME BECAUSE I KNOW A HUGE POPULATION WHO GO TO THE TEST SITES THAT THE STATE HAVE BEEN SO HELPFUL WITH, MANY STILL DON'T KNOW TODAY IF THEY ARE COVID POSITIVE OR NOT. SO I'M GRATEFUL THE STATE HAS ACKNOWLEDGED THAT REALITY AND HAS PIVOTEDS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE TO -- PIVOTED AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE TO SHIFT THAT LANE THEY ARE ON THAT'S BEHIND. SO MOVING FORWARD WE WILL BE DOING CHEEK SWAB TESTING SPECIFICALLY STARTING AT THE HIGH SCHOOL.

MR. VILLALOBOS WOULD YOU LIKE TO RESPOND ON ANYTHING COVID-19 TESTING IN THE COUNTY?

PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND TITLE FOR THE RECORD. >> ALEX VILLALOBOS CHIEF STAFF EMERGENCY COORDINATOR FOR HAYS COUNTY. THE PCR MOLECULAR TESTS THAT HAVE BEEN PUT OUT. THERE'S MANY DIFFERENT PARTS. THERE'S THE PART THAT YOU HAVE A TEAM THAT COORDINATES THE OPERATIONAL PLAN, AND YOU HAVE THE PARTS WHERE PEOPLE HAVE ACTUALLY PROVIDE THE TEST. THAT'S THE NATIONAL GUARD. THEN YOU HAVE THE PART WHERE THEY PROCESS THE TESTS. IT'S COMPLETELY DIFFERENT. TYPICALLY THOSE PLACES ARE AWAY FROM THE TESTING SITE. SO YOU HAVE THREE DIFFERENT LARGE GROUPS COMING TOGETHER IN RESPONSE TESTING SOMETIMES THOSE THINGS CARRY A LOT OF WEIGHT AND CAN SLOW DOWN, ESPECIALLY WHEN THERE'S A HUGE NEED FOR THAT KIND OF SERVICE. THEY ARE RETOOLING AND FIGURING OUT A WAY TO CHECK BACK UP. AND WE HOPE THAT COMES BACK S SOON.

THE TESTING SITE FROM JULY 12TH TO 16TH IS GOING TO BE AT THE CITY OF SAN MARCOS OR THE SAN MARCOS DISTRICT HIGH SCHOOL, SAN MARCOS HIGH SCHOOL FROM THE 12TH TO THE 16TH.

IT WILL BE THE CURATIVE TEST. THERE IS, THUS FAR, TWO TEAMS ARE BEING DEPLOYED TO THAT SITE.

THEIR OPERATIONAL PLAN LIMITS THE TEST TO 215. THAT IS THE LIMITATION OF JUST 500 TESTS. THE REASON IS WHY BECAUSE THOSE ARE VERY TIME SENSITIVE TESTS THAT NEED TO BE OUT TO A CERTAIN LOCATION AT A VERY SPECIFIC TIME SO THERE'S STILL VALID TESTS TO BE PROCESSED. THAT'S THE REASON WHY. AND THOSE TESTS ARE FEDEXED TO DIFFERENT LAB LOCATIONS TO BE PROCESSED SO THEY CAN HAVE THEM DONE WITHIN THE 72-HOUR PERIOD.

NOW WE ARE CURRENTLY NEGOTIATING AND HOPING THAT WE CAN HAVE AN ADDITIONAL TEAM DEPLOYED TO THAT SITE TO RAISE THAT LEVEL TO 750 WHICH IS CLOSER TO THE AVERAGE TESTING AMOUNT WE HAVE BEEN

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AGAIN BECAUSE IT'S SO SENSITIVE YOU CAN'T HAVE AN TEST IN ONE PLACE BECAUSE IT'S PROCESSING.

WE THE IT TO BE AS EFFECTIVE AS POSSIBLE. I LEAVE THAT IN THE HANDS OF THE PROFESSIONALS CBC IS BACK INTO FULL OPERATION. THEY ARE PROCESSING TESTS AND THEY HAVE QUICK TURN AROUNDS TIMES AS OF LATE. SO WE HAVE SO SUPPORT BACK.

WE WILL BE MEETING WITH THEM SOMETIME TODAY WITH REGARDS TO SOME OTHER PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE GOING ON, WHICH IS SOME OF OUR PRIVATE PARTNERS IN NEGOTIATING SITES ALL OVER THE COUNTY AND ACCESSIBLE TO ALL PEOPLE INCLUDING THE ACCOUNTABILITY. SO WE DON'T WANT TO GET INTO TOO MANY SPECIFICS. IT'S TOO PREMATURE TO TALK ABOUT THOSE AGREEMENTS AND JUST KNOW WE ARE AND GETTING CLOSE TO HAVING MANY AGREEMENTS COME FORWARD SO WE CAN SOLIDIFY THE OPERATIONAL SITES A LARGE MAJORITY OF THE COUNTY EAST, WEST, NORTH AND SOUTH.

TODAY WE'LL HAVE EARTH NOTH MEETING FOR PLANNING ON THAT AND THAT IS ALL I HAVE FOR TODAY.

>> ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. VILLE HAD ALOBOS BEFORE WE GO ON TO CAPTAIN BONDO FOR A JAIL COVID UPDATE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. VILLALOBOS.

NEXT UP WE HAVE CAPTAIN ABANDO FROM THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE. SHE RUNS OUR JAIL AND WILL PROVIDE US A COVID UPDATE IN THE JAIL. THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE,

CAPTAIN. >> THANK YOU. GOOD MORNING JUDGE AND COMMISSIONERS, AND THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME AN OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT OUR MOST CURRENT COVID CASES IN THE HAYS COUNTY JAIL AND ALSO REITERATE SOME OF THE THINGS THE LAST TIME I SAID WHETHER I WAS HERE. THE HAYS COUNTY JAIL OFFICE IN COMBINATION WITH OUR MEDICAL PROVIDER WELLPAD WHO IS STAFFED WITH LICENSEDICAL PROFESSIONALS ARE WORK AGGRESSIVELY AROUND THE CLOCK TO MINIMIZE THE CORONAVIRUS PANDEMIC IN OUR CITY.

WE HAVE INCREASED MONITORING OF OUR JAIL POPULATION. WE CONTINUE TO SCREEN ALL INCOMING ARRESTINGS. WE MONITOR INMATES FOR SIMPLE TOXS THROUGHOUT OUR FACILITY, CHECKING INMATE TEMPERATURES RANDOMLY THROUGHOUT THE HOUSING AREAS SEVERAL TIMES A DAY, AND AS MORE TESTING HAS BECOME AVAILABLE, WE HAVE BECOME TO SYSTEMATICALLY TEST AND TEST GROUPS OF ASYMPTOMATIC AND SYMPTOMATIC IN THE JAIL. IN ADDITION OUR MEDICAL STAFF TESTED ALL DETAINEES PRIOR TO HOUSING EVEN THOSE WITHOUT SYMPTOMS. THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE WILL CONTINUE TO FOLLOW CDC AND HAYS COUNTY OFFICIAL GUIDELINES ON THESE ISSUES. HYGIENE IN OUR FACILITY AND AND DUE IT TESTING THE NUMBER OF POSITIVE RESULTS HAVE RISEN AND I CONTINUE TO EXPECT THEM TO GROW.

IN EFFORT PROTECTION EN-- INFECTIONS ENTIRE HOUSING UNITS ARE UNDER QUARANTINE.

WE HAVE CREATED OBSERVATION HOUSING UNIT FOR INCOMING DETAINEES A HOUSING UNITS FOR SYMPTOMATIC INMATES WHO ARE AWEIGHT THE RESULTS. MULTIPLE HOUSING UNITS, HOUSING CONFIRMED POSITIVE RESULTS, HOUSING UNITS FOR INMATES THAT REFUSE TESTING, HOUSING UNIT FOR CONFIRMED NEGATIVES AND HOUSING UNITS FOR INMATES IDENTIFIED AS HIGH RISK.

AS WE'VE SEEN AN INCREASE OF POSITIVE RESULTS WE HAVE REACHED THE HOUSING MAXIMUM SEPARATION CAPACITY OF OUR FACILITY. EVERY DAY EACH HOUSING MUST BE REASSESSED.

WE ARE FACED WITH THE CHALLENGE OF LIMITED SEPARATION, SPACE AND THE EVER CHANGING NEEDS.

IN THE HAYS COUNTY JAIL. -- NEEDS OF THE HAYS COUNTY JAIL.

FURTHER SUSPECTS COMING INTO JAIL WITH CONFIRMED POSITIVES. WE'RE VERY FORTUNATE THAT MANY OF THE INDIVIDUALS THAT WE ARE -- THAT HAVE TESTED POSITIVE FOR THIS VIRUS EXPERIENCE FEW IF NOT ANY SYMPTOMS AT ALL. SO AS OF 4:00 P.M. YESTERDAY, WE HAVE HAD 60 INMATES WHO HAVE TESTED POSITIVE FOR COVID-19. 45 ARE CURRENTLY IN CUSTODY AT THE HAYS COUNTY JAIL.

ZERO INMATES HAVE BE HOSPITALIZED. 67 INMATES HAVE TESTED NEGATIVE.

56 PENDING RESULTS. SO THE HAYS COUNTY JAIL HAS PERFORMED 183 COVID TESTS SINCE

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TEMPERATURES SCREENINGS FOR EVERY EMPLOYEE WHO REPORTS FOR DUTY AND OUR CORRECTIONS OFFICERS' TEMPERATURES ARE TAKEN TWICE A DAY DURING THEIR SHIFT USUALLY AT THE BEGINNING OF THE SHIFT OR AT THE MID OR END OF SHIFT. IF A STAFF MEMBER EXHIBITS SYMPTOMS THE STAFF MEMBER IS PLACED ON MEDICAL LEAVE AND SELF-QUARANTINE PENDING MEDICAL CLEARANCE BEFORE THEY CAN RETURN TO WORK. WE'VE TEMPORARILY SUSPENDED JAIL IN-PERSON VISITATION PURSUANT TO THE GOVERNOR'S ORDER, BUT WE DO RECOGNIZE THAT INMATES STILL NEED TO COMMUNICATE WITH THEIR FAMILIES. WEF WORKED CLOSELY WITH SECURUS.

THEY ARE OUR PHONE PROVIDER FOR THOSE WHO DON'T KNOW. WE HAVE PROVIDE THREE TWO-MINUTES PER INMATE PER WEEK SINCE THE BEGINNING OF THIS. WE TEMPORARILY SUSPENDED ANYONE ENTERING THE FACILITY THAT DOES NOT HAVE A VERIFIED LAW ENFORCEMENT PURPOSE.

A CLEAN SCHEDULE WAS ISSUED TO OUR CORRECTIONS OFFICERS TO SANITIZE THE COMMON AREAS OF THE INMATE HOUSING UNITS. INMATES ARE PROVIDED A CLEANING CARD EVERY DAY.

THE OFFICERS GO IN ON EVERY SHIFT AND THEY SANITIZE THE COMMON AREAS.

THIS IS THE RESTROOMS, THE SHOWERS, THE TABLES, EVERYTHING THAT IS USED BY THE INMATES IN THE COMMON AREA. WE'VE ALSO ON A ROTATION SCHEDULE WHERE WE REMOVE ALL THE INMATES FROM THEIR LIVING AREA AND WE DISINFECT AND SANITIZE THE ENTIRE AREA, INCLUDING THE BOX WHERE THE INMATES SLEEP. INMATES RECEIVE ADEQUATE CLEANING SUPPLIES AND WE WILL OFFER MORE IF THEY NEED IT WITHIN REASON. INMATES ARE PROVIDED LIQUID SOAP IN THEIR LIVING AREAS, HAND SANITIZER WHEN THEY LEAVE, SO IF THEY GO RECREATION, IT'S AVAILABLE TO THEM. WHEN THEY COME BACK IN, IT'S AVAILABLE TO THEM.

WE'RE CONTINUING TO REGULARLY REMAND -- REMIND THE INMATES AND STAFF ABOUT CDC PREVENTION GUIDELINES WHICH INCLUDES WASHING OF THE HANDS WAVERING THE MASKS THAT WE PROVIDE A WEEKLY REQUEST. EDUCATION MATERIALS TO INFORM INMATES OF COVID-19.

OUR MEDICAL STAFF TALKS TO EVERY INDIVIDUAL BEFORE HOUSING AND EXPLAINS THE IMPORTANCE OF WASHING YOUR HANDS, WEARING YOUR MASK. THE NURSES HAVE GONE INTO ALL THE LIVING AREAS AND AGAIN REPEATED THE SAME INFORMATION AND AGAIN WE HAVE POST THE INFORMATION ON THE WALLS WE'VE CREATED FOUR MOBILE VIDEO EQUIPMENT STATIONS TO ALLOW THE CONTINUATION OF COURT HEARINGS, WHICH INCLUDES ARRAIGNMENT, ATTORNEY VISITS, PAROLE VISITS, CPS HEARINGSED MAGISTRATION. INMATE MOVEMENT HAS GENERALLY OR INMATE MOVEMENT IN THE GENERAL INMATE POPULATION HAS BEEN SIGNIFICANTLY REDUCED. WE DO NOT REFUSE TESTING TO ANY OF OUR INMATES. FINANCE INMATE EXHIBITS SYMPTOMS TESTING IS ARRANGED IMMEDIATELY, AND THE INMATE IS PLACED ON A MEDICAL PROTOCOL. IN FACT IT'S THE INMATES THEMSELVES THAT ARE REFUSING THE TEST MANY PEOPLE HAVE REACHED OUT TO US AND ASKED US ABOUT HOW

THEY CAN HELP US WITH THE CURRENT SITUATION. >> CAN YOU HANG ON ONE SECOND IN

SOMEONE HAS GOT AUDIO GOING. I'D LIKE TO SEE IT STOPPED. >> -- COMPUTER.

SO PEOPLE HAVE REACHED OUT AND ASKED US HOW THEY CAN HELP US WE HAVE MULTIPLE PEOPLE IN OH,S TO DONATE. PPE THAT WAS NEED ESPECIALLY IN THE EARLY DAYS WHEN IT WAS SCARCE AND THE ONLY THING WE HAVE HANDMADE MASKS OUR FEMALE TRUSTEES MADE.

WHAT I WOULD SAY TO THE PUBLIC ESPECIALLY FAMILY MEMBERS AND ATTORNEYS IS PLEASE HEM US AND STRESS THE IMPORTANCE OF THE CDC GUIDELINES AND ENCOURAGE YOUR CLIENTS AND FAMILY MEMBERS TO FREQUENTLY WASH THEIR HANDS AND WEAR THE MASK THAT WE HAVE PROVIDED.

TO DATE WE HAVE SHOWN EVIDENCE THAT DESPITE THE ISSUANCE OF MASKS, 99% OF THEM ARE NOT WEARING THEM. I WILL WATCH LIVE VIDEO EVERY OTHER DAY TO SEE WHO IS WEARING THE MASK THAT WE HAVE PROVIDED AND I HAVE YET TO SEE ONE WEAR THEIR MASK.

THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE WILL NOT USE FORCE TO GAIN MASK WEARING COMPLIANCE, HOWEVER WITH YOUR HELP WE HOPE THAT WE WILL GET INMATES TO COMPLY AND HELP US PREVENT THE SPREAD OF THE VIRUS.

THE HAYS COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE IS COMMITTED TO TRANSPARENCY AND ACCURACY PROTECTING INMATES AND

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QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE. >> WE'LL START WITH COMMISSIONER SMITH.

>> FIRST, I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU. WE MADE THE POINT THAT LAST WEEK BECAUSE I HAD GOTTEN REPORTS. THE FACT IS THE SHERIFF WE CAN'T MANDATE COMPLIANCE WITH THESE DIRECTIVES EVEN IF WE CAN GIVE THEM ALL THE PPE THEY WANT. AN INMATE HAS TO CHOOSE TO USE IT THAT IS WHAT DISHEART NIRNG TO ME. I HAD GOTTEN E-MAILS FROM CONSTITUENTS ASKING FOR VERY IN-DEPTH DEMOGRAPHIC INFORMATION OR AN INDIVIDUALIZED INFORMATION ON INMATES. WHENEVER I SAY THAT, SOME OF THE INFORMATION REQUESTED SPECIFIC CRIMINAL CHARGES, SPECIFIC AGE, SPECIFIC RACE OR NATIONALITY, ETHNICITY.

IT'S A LAUNDSRY LIST OF ITEMS THAT THERE'S BEEN A DEMAND AT LEAST FROM MY OFFICE TO WORK WITH SHERIFF'S OFFICE TO PROVIDE. AND I THINK THAT THERE MAY NOT BE AN UNDERSTANDING OFF -- LAUNDRY -- THAT I KNOW YOU KNOW AND SEVERAL OF MY COLLEAGUES KNOW AS WELL, THAT THAT WOULD BE -- THE RELEASE OF THAT INFORMATION IS A DIRECT VIOLATION OF THAT INDIVIDUAL INMATE'S HIPA PROTECTIONS. AT THE END OF THE DAY IN ORDER TO PROTECT THOSE INMATES, THERE IS NO WAY I WOULD ADVOCATE FOR THAT.

I REALLY APPRECIATE THE WORK Y'ALL ARE DOING. I KNOW Y'ALL HAVE TAKEN SOME VERY SUBSTANTIAL STEPS, AND I DO APPRECIATE THAT. I'VE BEEN IN THE JAIL BEFORE NUMBER OF TIMES AND I APPRECIATE BEING YOUR WILLINGNESS TO SHOW ME AROUND AND I CAN TELL YOU THAT THERE'S A REASON THAT OUR JAIL HERE IN HAYS COUNTY IS NOT ONLY VIEWED AS ONE THAT DOES A GOOD JOB, BUT AN EXEMPLARY JOB FROM OUR STATE. BECAUSE EVERY TIME WE HAVE -- EVERY TIME THE STATE COMES IN, WE HAVE DONE OR Y'ALL HAVE DONE AN EXCELLENT JOB AND IT'S BEEN NOTED. AND SO THIS IS NO DIFFERENT THAN WHAT YOU'VE DONE IN THE PAST.

I'M VERY IMPRESSIONED WITH IT. IMIMPRESSED WITH OUR D.A.'S OFFICE TRYING TO ALLEVIATE THAT LOAD ON YOU AND THE WORK THAT THEY HAVE DONE. AND I JUST ASK YOU TO KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK. I APPRECIATE YOU KEEPING THE INMATES' HEALTH AND SACHTED IN MIND, AND -- SAFETY IN MIND AND MAKING THAT YOUR TOP PRIORITY AS YOU ALWAYS HAVE.

>> THANK YOU. >> COMMISSIONER SHELL. >> I ALSO WANT TO THANK THE CAPTAIN AND COMMISSIONERALS BY. I SPENT SOME TIME THERE LAST WEEK WITH THE CAPTAIN COMMAND STAFF AND WE ACTUALLY -- I DID NOTICE OUR STAFF AND THE JAIL WAS WEARING MASKS BUT UNFORTUNATELY THE INMATES WEREN'T. AND I KNOW THAT'S BEEN VERY VERY HARD TO FIGURE OUT HARD -- VERY HARD TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO GET THEM TO DO THAT.

I THINK THAT WOULD MAKE A DIFFERENCE AND WE'RE DOING ALL WE CAN.

WE ALSO SPENT TIME WITH JUDGES AND DISCUSSED ANY WAYS IN WHICH WE CAN FIND TO GET SOME OF THE FOLKS OUT OF OUR JAIL THROUGH SOME OTHER TYPE OF PROGRAM. I KNOW OUR NUMBERS ARE LOWER TODAY THAN THEY WERE A YEAR AGO TODAY, AND I WAS LOOKING THROUGH THE NUMBERS JUST BEFORE OH, BACK IN FEBRUARY. I THINK WE HAD POPULATION ONE DAY DOWN TO 560.

SOMEWHERE IN THAT RANGE. 430S. WE HAVE REDUCED OUR NOUBZ 130 SINCE THIS TIME LAST YEAR, HOPING THAT WE CAN STILL FIND WAYS TO BRING THOSE NUMBERS DOWN BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S REALLY ULTIMATELY WHAT'S GOING TO HELP US -- NUMBERS.

LIKE THE CAPTAIN SAID, WE DON'T HAVE THE SPACE AND I THINK WE'VE ALL WITNESSED.

THAT IT'S HARD TO KEEP PEOPLE SEPARATE IN THE SPACE. IT'S A BIT OF A CHALLENGE.

I APPRECIATE THE WORK THEY HAVE DONE AND THE TIME THEY SPENT WITH US LAST WEEK AND SOME OF

THE MEASURES THEY PUT IN PLACE. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU.

>> COMISSIONER JONES. >> DID WE HEAR ANYTHING FROM OUR PARTNERS ATHEY ARE GOING TO BE LESS WILLING TO TAKE OUR OVERCROWDED PRISONERS WE'RE HAVING TO SHIFT TO OTHER

COUNTIES? -- PARTNERSHIPS IF. >> IN FACT, UNFORTUNATELY YES.

FORT BEND ASKED US TO PICK UP A COUPLE OF INMATES AND BURNETT COUNTY ASKED US TO PICK UP 10 TO 15. WHAT IS HAPPENING AND IT'S HAPPENING EVERYWHERE.

AS AT THE OFFICERS ARE ALSO GETTING EXPOSED AS YOU ALL KNOW, WITH JAIL STANDARDS YOU HAVE TO HAVE CERTAIN AMOUNT OF OFFICERS WORKING WITH HOWEVER 1 TO 48 IN YOUR JAIL FACILITY.

AS THSE OFFICERS DRAW THAT'S 48 INMATES AND THAT GOES ON AND ON AND BECOMES A BIG NUMBER.

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US BECAUSE WE'RE STILL HOUSING IT. >> WE ALSO HAVE LOW LEVEL CRIME

INMATES. >> I WOULD SAY THAT IF ANYBODY IS RELEASED BY A LOW LEVEL CRIME THEY ARE RELEASED BY THAT FOLLOWING MORNING ON A PR BOND. I'VE BEEN SEEING A LOT OF BONDS ARE LOWER THAN BEFORE. BUT THE INMATES WE CURRENTLY HAVE IN THE JAIL PEOPLE ARE MISUNDERSTANDING THE TYPE OF INMATE THAT WE HAVE. THE LAST TIME I LOOKED AT NUMBER WHICH IS LAST WEEK WE CURRENTLY HAVE 30 INDIVIDUALS IN CUSTODY SUSPECTED OF MURDER.

WE HAVE 61 FOR AGGRAVATED AS SULT AND ANOTHER 75 FOR SEXUAL OFFENSES.

EVERYONE THAT'S THERE HAS MULTIPLE CHARGES. IT'S NOT ONE CHARGE.

IT'S MULTIPLE. WE SCOURED THAT LIST. THE D.A. DOES THE SAME THING IN ALWAYS LOOKING TO SEE IF THERE'S SOMEONE THAT CAN BE RELEASED TO HELP US WITH OUR ISSUE.

WE DON'T HAVE PEOPLE FROM LOW LEVEL FENCES. WE HAVEN'T HAD THAT FOR A LONG TIME. I DON'T KNOW WHERE THAT INFORMATION KEEPS COMING FROM.

>> ALSO WHO ACTUALLY HAS AUTHORITY TO RES IF THE PERIOD IS NOT MADE AVAILABLE IN OUR

JAIL, WHO CAN RELOIS THOSE PRISONERS? >> SURELY NOT THE SHERIFF.

THAT'S NOT WHAT WE DO. THE COURT SYSTEMS ARE THE ONES WHO ARE SUPPOSED TO PROVIDE A DISPOSITION WHETHER THE CASE HAS BEEN HEARD, IT'S BEEN DISPOSED, OR THEY CHOOSE TO RELEASE THEM ON A COURT WRIT FOR WHATEVER REASON. BUT HAYS COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE

DOES NOT HAVE ANY CONTROL OVER THE RELEASING OF INMATES. >> SO IT HAS TO BE A JUDGE

BASICALLY. >> THAT'S CORRECT. >> COMMISSIONER INGALSBE, BATTER

UP. >> THANK YOU, JUDGE. JULIE, FIRST OF ALL I WANT TO THANK YOU ALL FOR COMING IN AND GIVING US THAT THOROUGH REPORT. I REALLY APPRECIATE IT, AND YOU KNOW, YOU TALK TO OUR MENTIONED TRANSPARENCY. I KNOW THAT'S SOMETHING THAT HAS BEEN MENTIONED MULTIPLE TIMES TO ME AND I APPRECIATE BECAUSE I DOES HELP OUR VIEWING AUDIENCE TO JUST KNOW -- I'M SO SORRY. KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON AND ALL THE PRECAUTIONS THAT WE'RE TAKING IN THE JAIL, AS COMMISSIONER SHELL MENTIONED. OUR VISIT TO THE JAIL WAS WE REALLY APPRECIATE THE ASSISTANCE THAT YOU GAVE US, JUST ALLOWING US, YOU KNOW, WE WANTED TO GO IN THE JAIL. I KNOW THAT WE CAN'T BECAUSE OF THE ORDERS OF THE GOVERNOR.

SO WE DID THE NEXT BEST THING WAS TO LOOK AT THE MONITORS TO SEE THE INMATES INTERACTING WITH EACH OTHER AND ALSO THE STAFF AND AS COMMISSIONER SHELL MENTIONED, IT WAS A LITTLE DISHEARTENING TO SEE THAT THE INMATES WEREN'T -- NONE OF THE ONES I SAW WERE WEARING MASKS.

BUT I APPRECIATE EVERYTHING THAT Y'ALL ARE DOING TO HELP WITH THAT PROCESS TO TRY TO, YOU KNOW I DON'T WANT TO SAY EDUCATE BUT JUST TO HELP THEM KNOW THE OF WEARING THOSE MASKS AND STOPPING THE SPREAD. SO I APPRECIATE EVERYTHING THAT Y'ALL ARE IMPLEMENTING AND DOING AND ALSO A LOT OF THE COMMENTS THAT I'M MAKE HAVING ALREADY BEEN SAID, BUT I THINK THAT IT'S IMPORTANT MEETING WITH JUDGES A COUPLE OF JUDGES AND STAFF LAST WEEK ALSO, I WAS VERY ENCOURAGED BECAUSE THEY ALSO ARE WANTING TO HELP US TO REDUCE THE NUMBER OF INMATES THAT ARE IN THE JAIL THAT CAN BE RELEASED. SO THEY WERE GOING TO GO SHARE THAT INFORMATION WITH THE OTHER JUDGES AND I JUST FELT VERY GOOD ABOUT THE OUTCOME OF THAT. AND I'M WAITING TO SEE THE NUMBERS BEING REDUCED AS CAN. AND SO REALLY I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU.

I KNOW I CALLED YOU AND CONTACTED STAFF OR THREE TIMES WITH SPECIFIC NEEDS OF INDIVIDUALS THAT HAVE CALLED ME, CONCERNED ABOUT SPECIFIC INMATES THAT WERE IN THE JAIL AND Y'ALL VERYTHING Y'ALL CAN TODID ACCOMMODATE THE NEEDS MOTHERS AND OTHERS HAD REGARDING THEIR FAMILY MEMBERS IN THE JAILS. SO I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT.

THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER. TO NOTE, I'M NOT GETTING ANY PHONE CALLS FROM ATTORNEYS. I'VE GOTTEN THAT ONE THAT THROUGH YOU THAT YOU CALLED ME ABOUT. AND I'VE HAD ONE ATTORNEY CONTACT ME ABOUT THEIR CLIENT.

I SLNT ANY OTHER PHONE CALLS. SO AGAIN, IF THEY ARE CONCERNED ABOUT THEIR CLIENTS, YOU KNOW,

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BUT THEY ARE NOT CALLING ME. SO YOU KNOW, IF THEY ARE, AGAIN, PLEASE TELL THEM TO CALL ME.

I'LL BE HAPPY TO DO THE RESEARCH AND FIGURE OUT WHAT THE ISSUE IS.

>> YOU ARE VERY THOROUGH IN YOUR REPORTING, AND IT DREW A FEW QUESTIONS FOR ME.

THESE EXTENSIVE MEASURES THAT YOU HAVE DESCRIBED ARE SEEM ROBUST AND ADEQUATE.

HOWEVER, WE HAVE MORE THAN 60 PEOPLE WITH COVID IN OUR JAIL AND I'M WONDERING WHERE WE SLIPPED OR OVERLOOKED OR SIDE STEPPED OR WHATEVER YOU WANT TO HAVE THIS HAPPEN IF ALL OF THE INTAKE PROCESSING WAS DOING THEIR JOB AND EVERYTHING ELSE. HOW DO WE END UP WHERE WE ARE

RIGHT NOW? >> OK. SO WE HAD -- WE HAD 60 THAT TESTED POSITIVE, BUT ONLY 45 ARE CURRENTLY IN THE JAIL IN THE BEGINNING, JUDGE, TESTS WERE NOT

AVAILABLE TO US. >> WHAT ARE YOU REFERRING TO? HOLD ON A MINUTE.

HOLD WHAT YOU REFERRING TO IN THE BEGINNING? >> MARCH.

>> IN MARCH TESTS WERE NOT AVAILABLE TO YOU? IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING?

>> WE WERE LUCKY IF WE HAD FOUR TESTS IN OUR JAIL FACILITY TO CONDUCT THIS KIND OF TESTING.

SO AT THAT IN THE BEGINNING EARLY ON, MARCH-APRIL, OUR MEDICAL STAFF WAS ONLY TESTING PEOPLE WHO HAD SYMPTOMS. YOU KNOW, THE SCIENCE IS CHANGING.

AS IT GOES ON WE LEARN MORE. FIRST, THEY TOLD US CDC TOLD US THAT MASKS DON'T HELP YOU.

THEN THEY CAME BACK AND CHANGED THAT. SO WE CONTINUE TO EVOLVE AS THE SCIENCE EVOLVES AND WE WILL WORK HARD AND WE'RE LISTENING AND TAKING ADVICE FROM OUR HEALTH

DEPARTMENT, AS WELL AS WHAT THE CDC IS SAYING. >> OK.

I WON'T EXPAND ON THAT. YOU WANT OUR HELP SO THAT INMATES CAN COMPLY.

CAN YOU EXPAND ON HOW WE CAN HELP YOU TO HAVE INMATES COMPLY? >> WELL I'D HOPE THAT ATTORNEYS THAT ARE OUT THERE LISTENING AND FAMILY MEMBERS THAT ARE OUT THERE LISTENING, TALK TO YOUR LOVED ONES. TELL THEM THE IMPORTANCE OF WEARING THEIR MASK AND WASHING THEIR HANDS. IF YOU CAN'T BE SOCIALLY DISTANCED FROM SOMEONE BY 6 FEET WEAR YOUR MASK. BUT THEY ARE NOT DOING IT AND I'M NOT GOING TO USE FORCE ON PEOPLE. THEY ARE ADULTS. THEY NEED TO MAKE THEIR OWN DECISIONS BY KEEPING THEIR OWN HEALTH AND THINKING ABOUT THEIR HEALTH AND SAFETY.

SO THAT'S HOW I'M ASKING. I'M REACHING OUT TO EVERYONE, THE COMMUNITY, YOU, ATTORNEYS, FAMILY MEMBERS, ANYONE THAT WILL LISTEN THAT HAS SOMEONE INCARCERATED, PLEASE HELP THAT.

-- PLEASE HELP US WITH THAT. >> I TOO HAVE CALLED AROUND AND SPOKEN TO ATTORNEYS AND SPOKEN TO COUNTY EMPLOYEES AND JUDGES WHICH ARE ALSO COUNTY EMPLOYEES CAN YOU TELL ME HOW MANY PEOPLE

WERE MAGISTRATED YESTERDAY FOR EXAMPLE? >> I DON'T HAVE THAT NUMBER.

I DON'T GET THAT NUMBER DAILY. BUT I CAN FIND OUT AND GET BACK TO YOU.

HOW ABOUT THE DAY BEFORE? >> I DON'T -- I DON'T MANAGE THAT INFORMATION EVERY DAY.

>> IS THERE ANY DAY THAT YOU CAN POINT TO THAT YOU KNOW HOW MANY PEOPLE WERE MAGISTRATED?

>> NO, SIR. >> OK. SO I THINK A BIG PART IS OUR ABILITY TO MAGISTRATE AND MOVE PEOPLE THROUGH OUR PROCESS THAT WE ALL SEEM TO BE WORKING TOWARDS AND WORKING ON AND WORKING FOR. BUT I AM UNDER THE IMPRESSION THAT WE MAY BE FALLING BEHIND AND I'M NOT GOING TO PRETEND TO RUN ANYONE'S OFFICE OR SINGLE ANYONE OUT. BUT I WANT TO BRING IT UP. AND SO I'M UNDER THE IMPRESSION THAT WE ARE IN SOME SPACE, IN SOME CAPACITY NOT ABLE TO PROCESS SOMEONE THAT GOES INTO OUR JAIL WHETHER IT BE THROUGH AN AGENCY OR TURNING THEMSELVES IN OR WHATEVER IN AN EFFICIENT MANNER TO BE MAGISTRATED BACK OUT. AND I'M WONDERING IF YOU CAN

SPEAK TO THAT. >> ALL RIGHTS. ARE YOU REFERRING TO WHEN YOU

CALLED YESTERDAY, FOR A SECOND ADMINISTRATION? >> -- MAGISTRATION.

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>> WHEN I CALLED YESTERDAY, FOR EXAMPLE, I SPOKE TO A COUPLE OF PEOPLE, BUT THE PIECES OF INFORMATION THAT I RECEIVED ARE SEVERAL, AND I'M ADDRESSING ONE THING RIGHT NOW.

AND I'M WONDERING WHAT YOU CAN EXPAND ON. SO IN YESTERDAY'S ENTRANCE -- INSTANCE WE ALREADY CONDUCTED IT THAT DAY. WE RECEIVED A PHONE CALL AT 7:30 -- YOU, SIR. YOU CONTACTD OUR BOOK STAFF AND REQUESTED -- OR ISY?

>> ARE YOU UNDER THE IMPRESSION I REQUESTED AN ADDITIONAL MAGISTRATION BECAUSE THAT'S

INACCURATE. >> OK. NONETHELESS.

YOU CALLED. >> ASKING. >> -- ASKING IF WE CAN CONDUCT

AN ADDITIONAL MAGISTRATION. >> JUST FOR A SECOND. I'M SORRY TO INTERRUPT YOU.

IT'S IMPORTANT WE GET THIS RIGHT. I DID NOT CALL PUTTING MY HAND INTO YOUR OPERATION, ASKING YOU TO DO ANYTHING. I AM VERY DELIBERATE WHEN I REACH OUT TO SEEK INFORMATION, AND I WAS NOT ASKING FOR ANYTHING EXCEPT FOR INFORMATION.

I DID NOT CALL ASKING FOR ANOTHER MAGISTRATION. I WANT TO CLARIFY THAT.

>> OK, THAT'S FINE. WE WERE NOT IN THE POSITION IT DO A SECOND MAGISTRATION YESTERDAY. YESTERDAY I HAD -- WE WERE -- I WANT TO SAY TEN OFFICERS DOWN.

ONE WAS ON VACATION. TWO WERE OFF ON FMLA. TWO WERE IN TRAINING AND FOUR FROM THAT SHIFT WERE POSITIVE COVID. WE DID NOT HAVE THE STAFF AT THAT TIME TO CONDUCT A SECOND MAGISTRATION SO WE DID TALK TO JUDGE MOORE FIRST AND JUDGE FOOR UNDERSTOOD WE COULDN'T DO IT AT THAT MOMENT. MAYBE LATER IN THE SHIFT WE BE ABLE TO DO IT AS THE NIGHT SHIFT CAME IN. REGARDING THE MAGISTRATION

YESTERDAY WE WERE NOT ABLE TO CONDUCT A SECOND MAGISTRATION. >> BUT YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU

PROCESSED IN BOOK FOR YOUR FIRST MAGISTRATION. >> CORRECT, JUDGE.

I HAVE PEOPLE THAT TO DO THAT. I DON'T HAVE TO BE IN THE MAGISTRATION ROOM TO DO

MAGISTRATION. >> I UNDERSTAND. I DON'T RUN THE JAIL BUT I GET THE JAIL REPORT. I'M JUST ASKING. NO PROBLEM.

I WANT TO GO ON TO THE NEXT PHASE. COMMISSIONER SMITH TALKED ABOUT HIPA COMPLIANCE. THAT IS A FUNNY, FUNNY, FUNNY ITEM THAT PEOPLE ARE USING TO SKIRT TRANSPARENCY. THE WAY I UNDERSTAND IT, AND YOU CAN CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, HIPA VIOLATION HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH IDENTIFYING AN AGENCY AS YOUR OFFICE HAS BEEN SO AWESOME TO SHARE WITH ME THROUGH THE POLICE CONSTABLE'S OFFICE, DPS, SOME UNIVERSITY BOOKINGS.

THAT NUMBER I GET HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH HIPA VIOLATIONS. WHAT COLOR THE SKIN OF THOSE PEOPLE THAT ARE ARRESTED ALSO HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH HIPA VIOLATIONS.

DO I STILL HAVE YOU? >> YES. >> DO YOU STILL AGREE SO FAR?

>> YES. >> OK. UNDERSTANDING THAT WHAT THE COMMUNITY SEES BECAUSE OF THE TEMPERATURE NATIONALLY AS AN UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT IS HAPPENING IN OUR OWN COMMUNITY AS A FOOTPRINT, I BELIEVE AS COMMISSIONER SMITH POINTED OUT, HE'S GETTING CALLS ASKING FOR DEMOGRAPHICS AND SHORT OF SOMEONE'S PERSONAL VIOLATORS THERE IS NO HAA VIOLATION WITH GIVING US STATS. -- HIPAA VIOLATION GIVING STATS.

>> I AGREE BUT IT'S ALSO AVAILABLE ON THE HAYS COUNTY WEBSITE VIA JAIL RECORD SEARCH.

IF YOU'RE LOOKING FOR THAT INFORMATION YOU CAN USE THAT METHOD.

>> JUDGE, I WOULD LIKE TO CLARIFY ONE THING JUST BECAUSE YOU CHARACTERIZED A STATEMENT.

I'LL READ ONE OF THE E-MAILS. >> NO, SIR. GIVE ME A SECOND.

I'M GOING TO RUN THIS MEETING AND IF YOU GIVE ME A SECOND WE'LL GO BACK TO IT BUT I WANT TO FINISH THE CAPTAIN ON THE PODIUM AND I'LL ABSOLUTELY GO BACK TO YOU.

I PROMISE. OK. SO COMMISSIONER, JONES SAID THAT WE HAVE LOW-LEVEL CRIME IF WOULD YOU SPEAK ON THAT, AND WHAT'S GOING ON AND WHO IS IN OUR JASM THE I'VE GOT A CLARIFYING QUESTION -- JAIL. I'VE GOT A CLARIFYING QUESTION FOR YOU. FOLKS THE YET FOUND GUILTY. HOW MANY CAN YOU BALLPARK IF YOU HAVE AN IDEA. CAN YOU EXPLAIN OR EXPAND ON HOW MANY PEOPLE HAVE NOT YET BEEN

FOUND GUILTY THAT ARE IN OUR JAIL? >> FOR ME TO MAKE THE ASSUMPTION I WOULD HAVE TO USE OUR TDCJP REPORT. THE LAST TIME I SOMEWHAT LOOKED

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>> SO YOU SAY 20 TO 30. >> 20-30 IS MY ESTIMATION. >> OK.

NOT YET FOUND GUILTY BECAUSE WE'RE HEARING IT IN OUR CITIZENRY SPEECHES AS YOU SAID, AND LISTENED. THESE AREN'T ORIGINAL IDEA THAT'S ANY ONE OF US ARE COMING UP WITH. IT IS WHAT IS BEING SHARED WITH US.

IT'S BEING E-MAILED TO US. IT'S BEING CALLED ON, AND SO WE HAVE TO ASK THE QUESTIONS.

OK. 20 TO 30 NOT JET FOUND GUILTY. SORRY.

I'M -- NOT YET FOUND GUILTY. SORRY, I'M GOING THROUGH MY LIST HERE.

>> I DON'T THINK THAT'S WHAT SHE SAID. >> NO WE HAVE 20 OR 30 READY TO

GO TO TDC. >> THAT HAVE BEEN CONVICTED. EVERYBODY ELSE IS PRECINCTED.

>> OK. SO IF SOMEONE TURNS THEMSELF IN AND IS WAITING TO SEE A JUDGE OR HAS BEEN ARRESTED AND IS WAITING TO SEE A JUDGE -- BUT THIS IS A LITTLE BIT OFF THE COVID PIECE SOMEWHAT, SO I WANT TO STAY TIGHT TO THE AGENDA ITEM BUT IT IS TIED TO THE POPULATION OF THE

JAIL. >> OK. >> SO MY HOPE IS TO ANSWER THE COMMENTS THAT WE ARE HEARING RINGING IN OUR EARS ABOUT OUR JAIL WITH OVERCROWDED JAIL WITH

COVID THAT IS PEOPLE SITTING IN THERE NOT YET FOUND GUILTY. >> JUDGE, WE MIGHT WANT TO OPEN

THAT SHE CAN SPEAK TO. >> WELL IT'S JUST A WIPEOUT. THANK YOU.

I APPRECIATE IT, COMMISSIONER. >> I'M SORRY. I GOT LOST IN THE CONVERSATION.

>> IT'S JUST A POPULATION OF THE OVERCROWDING WITH THE COVID AND THE QUESTION SPECIFICALLY WAS ABOUT IF YOU KNEW OR HAVE ANY INFORMATION WITH HOW MANY PEOPLE HAVE YET NOT BEEN FOUND GUILTY SITTING IN OUR JAIL. THAT'S ALL IT WAS, A GENERAL QUESTION BUT YOU DON'T HAVE THAT

ANSWER. >> I DID. I SAID THAT WE HAVE ABOUT 20 OR 30 THAT HAVE BEEN SENTENCED TO TDCJ, THE OTHER INMATES ARE PRECINCT.

SO THEY ARE AWAITING. >> WHAT IS THAT NUMBER SOME. >> WHAT DO WE HAVE? I DON'T KNOW WHAT OUR POPULATION -- I HAVEN'T CHECKED THIS MORNING.

>> IT CHANGES DAY-TO-DAY. >> MINUS 30. IT CHANGES DAY-TO-DAY AS WE GET

--. >> 362. >> THAT WAS LAST WEEK.

>> SO YOU'RE TAKING TAKE 20 TO 30 OFF 362? >> NO, SIR.

WE HAVE 4 -- 400 -- OUR TOTAL NUMBER IS -- YES, YES, YES. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

GOOD. SO YOU'RE SAYING FROM THE TOTAL OF APPROXIMATELY 441, YOU'RE

SAYING TAKE OFF 20 TO 30 TO GIVE US THE PRETRIAL NUMBER. >> CORRECT.

>> OK. SO THAT'S JUST TIED TO. >> ACTUALLY SHE SAID

PRESENTENCING. JUST TO CLARIFY. >> THANK YOU.

>> THEY COULD HAVE ALREADY BEEN CONVICTED WITHOUT SENTENCING, TOO.

>> THAT'S POSSIBLE, YES. >> BUT I GUESS WHAT I'M TRYING TO GET TO IS WAYS THAT WE CAN HELP YOU TO COMMUNICATE WITH OTHERS, WHETHER IT BE ATTORNEYS, WHOEVER IT MAY BE OUR D.A.'S OFFICE, TO HELP YOU TO WITH THE STRESSFUL OVERCROWDING OF THE JAIL WHILE COVID IS RUNNING

RAMPANT WITH 45 INMATES IN THERE WITH COVID RIGHT NOW. >> AND JUDGE, IT'S INTERESTING.

NOW THAT YOU'VE ASKED US TO PUT THE NUMBERS OF ARRESTS, I FOUND IT VERY INTERESTING YESTERDAY BECAUSE I DECIDED TO RESEARCH THAT GROUP OF PEOPLE, AND I'VE NOTICED THAT -- I'M SURE YOU'LL REPORT IT TODAY. I THINK WE HAD 47 FOR HAYS COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE.

BUT IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT THAT INCLUDES PEOPLE THAT ARE PICKED UP FROM OTHER COUNTIES AND WHAT I FOUND INTERESTING WAS THAT 50% OF THE PEOPLE THAT HAYS COUNTY ARRESTED WERE PEOPLE TURNING THEMSELVES IN FOR WARRANTS. BECAUSE THEY ARE LOOKING AT THE SITUATION THAT WE'RE IN WITH COVID AND THEY KNOW THAT IF THEY TURN THEMSELVES IN THAT THE LIKELY -- THEY HAVE A VERY HIGH CHANCE OF GETTING A VERY LOW BOND OR MAYBE EVEN A PR BOND.

SO I FOUND HAD A INTERESTING THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT YOU ASKED FOR THAT, THOSE KIND OF NUMBERS AND THEY GAVE ME AN OPPORTUNITY TO DIG IN A LITTLE DEEPER AND RESEARCH THAT.

>> THAT'S GOOD, AND IS READ THE DISCLAIMER THAT ALTHOUGH YOU HAVE THE HIGHEST NUMBER EVERY WEEK THAT THAT IS IN PART BECAUSE OF COURT-ORDERED COMMITMENTS, INDIVIDUALS TURNING THEMSELVES IN FROM OTHER AGENCIES AND WARRANT PICKUPS. AND I BELIEVE WHAT YOU JUST SAID IS ACTUALLY SOMETHING THAT IS NEGATIVE, BUT I VIEW THAT AS A POSITIVE BECAUSE VERY MANY PEOPLE TURNING THEMSELVES IN PROCESSING THROUGH OUR SYSTEM IS USEFUL.

VULNERABILITY OR HOWEVER YOU WANT TO ARTICULATE THE DESCRIPTION OF OUR CURRENT JAIL

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IT'S GOOD TO KNOW THEY ARE PROCESSING IT NOW WITH THE HOPE OF A QUICKER STEPPING THROUGH OF THE PROCESS. OK. AND THEN I THINK I'VE -- GIVE ME ONE MORE SECOND. I THINK I'VE ADDRESSED THE COMMENTS.

SO WHEN YOU DID TALK ABOUT THE STAFFING AND THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE, AND YOU WENT THROUGH THE

SHORTAGE, HOW CAN WE HELP YOU ON THAT FRONT? >> JUDGE, I DON'T KNOW.

LIKE I SAID, WE'RE DOING EVERYTHING WE CAN IN OUR FACILITY TO KEEP OUR EMPLOYEES SAFE BECAUSE WE KNOW WE NEED THEM. IT'S A DANGEROUS THING FOR ALL LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES ACROSS THE NATION, ESPECIALLY, YOU KNOW KNOWING THAT YOU HAVE X AMOUNT OF INMATES AND WE HAVE TO HAVE STAFF. WE HAVE TO HAVE STAFF.

ALL WE CAN DO IS CONTINUE TO TELL OUR EMPLOYEES PRACTICE SOCIAL DISTANCING WHILE AT WORK.

WEAR YOUR MASK, WASH YOUR HANDS, SANITIZE YOUR HANDS, YOUR WORKSTATIONS.

WE PREACH IT EVERY DAY. AND AGAIN, THAT'S ALL WE CAN DO. AND I PRAY EVERY DAY THAT I DON'T GET SO LOW WITH MY STAFF. AND YOU KNOW, I DON'T WANT -- NONE OF US IN MY FACILITY WANT AN OUTBREAK BUT IT'S EVERYWHERE. IT'S IN EVERY JAIL. IF YOU SEE THAT THEY DON'T HAVE VERY MANY CASES, THEY PROBABLY HAVE THE SPACE TO SPREAD EVERYBODY OUT.

WE DON'T HAVE THAT LUXURY HERE IN HAYS COUNTY. YOU KNOW, BUT WE ARE DOING EVERYTHING WE CAN POSSIBLY THINK OF TO PREVENT THE SPREAD OF THE VIRUS.

AND I JUST HOPE THIS WILL GO AWAY AND I HOPE SOON BECAUSE IT HAS BEEN VERY STRESSFUL ON MY STAFF, OUR AGENCY, FOR YOU, FOR THE PEOPLE THAT WORK IN EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT, EVERYONE.

IT'S -- I'M READY FOR IT TO BE OVER. WE PREPARE FOR FLOODING IN OUR JAIL ENVIRONMENT. S USUALLY WHAT WE PREPARE FOR IS WHEN WE GET FLOOD AND DEAL WITH THAT KIND OF SITUATION. BUT IN MY 29 YEARS, I HAVE NEVER HAD A PANDEMIC IN THE COUNTY JAIL. AND I HOPE TO GOD WE DON'T HAVE ANOTHER ONE BUT IT'S BEEN A VERY

STRESSFUL TIME FOR EVERYONE. >> CAPTAIN THANK YOU VERY MUCH AND I HOPE ME SEEKING ANSWERS DOESN'T SEEM LIKE AN ADDITIONAL STRESS TO YOU. I'M JUST ASKING QUESTIONS THAT I'M BEING ASKED AND I'M CHARGED BECOME ANSWERS FOR HOWEVER I CAN GET THEM.

I NEVER WANT YOU BEING AT THAT PODIUM TO ADDRESS IT AS A PERSON ACTUALLY RUNNING THE JAIL TO FEEL ATTACKED OR ANYTHING NEGATIVE BY JUST PROBING FOR INFORMATION.

I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU'RE DOING. I SEE YOUR PASSION.

I FEEL IT AND I'M GRATEFUL. >> THANK YOU, JUDGE. >> COULD YOU ALSO HAVE YOUR PR SENT OUT A SUMMARY OF YOUR OPENING STATEMENTS FOR WHAT YOU'RE DOING IN THE JAILS WE CAN

SEND OUT OR ALSO WE CAN ANSWER CONSTITUENTS WITH? >> OK.

I WILL BE HAPPY TO DO THAT. >> I PROMISE COMMISSIONER RETURN SO IT'S --

>> THANKS. I WANTED TO CLARIFY WHEN I TALK ABOUT HIPAA.

HIPAA IS SPECIFIC IDENTIFYING INFORMATION. ANYTHING, IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT THE INFORMATION IS. IF YOU CAN BURROW DOWN TO WHAT ONE INDIVIDUAL PERSON IS, THAT'S WHEN YOU'RE VIOLATING THEIR HIPAA -- THEIR RIGHTS UNDER HIPAA.

WHENEVER YOU ASK FOR CERTAIN INFORMATION GENERALIZED INFORMATION STATISTICS THAT WE PROVIDE THAT'S COMPLETELY FINE. I'M JUST LOOKING AT FOR EXAM WILL AND I GOT A COUPLE OF I WOULD JUST SAY THEY WERE BUBBLING E-MAILS THE SAME E-MAIL FROM MULTIPLE PEOPLE.

ON HERE THE LIST THAT IS -- THAT SPECIFICALLY ASK FOR IS A LIST THE LINING SPECIFIC AGE, RACE, CHARGES BY INMATES, BOND AMOUNT BY INMATE, WHETHER THEY HAVE AN UNDERLYING MEDICAL CONDITION, A

LIST OF SYMPTOMS AND A TREATMENT PLAN FOR EACH POSITIVE INMATE. >> WE'RE MAINLY SOMEONE WOULD

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HOPEFULLY THE WAY WE HAVE IT SET UP NOW AND WHEN WE GET OUR STAFF FULLY BACK THE EFFICIENCIES OF

THE IMAGINE IMPROVE. >> YES. >> SO I THINK HE'S DOING IT AND HE HAS AT LEAST TWO ASSOCIATEDS NOW. I BELIEVE WE'LL BE ABLE TO SEE THAT TO BE ABLE TO RESPOND TO INCREASES AND INTAKE DURING THE TIMES OF THE DAY SO I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WILL IMPROVE. I DID LOOK AT NUMBERS.

THIS DOESN'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO DO WITH THE CAPTAIN OR THE JAIL. THEY DON'T DETERMINE WHO BRINGS THE INDIVIDUALS INTO THE JAIL. IT'S JUST THEIR JOB TO TAKE CARE OF THEM WHEN THEY ARE THERE.

YOU WOULD HAVE TO GO BACK TO 2017 TO GET TO A POPULATION LOWER THAN WE HAVE TODAY IN OUR FACILITY. JUST BY LOOKING AT GUESSING. YOU'D HAVE TO GO BACK TO EARLY 2017 PROBABLY SOMETIME IN MARCH OF 2017. SO THAT'S I THINK THAT SAYS SOMETHING, TOO, FOR SOME WORK THAT'S BEEN DONE TO TRY TO REDUCE THAT POPULATION, AS OUR POPULATION HAS GROWN. WE'VE TAKEN SOME MEASURES RECENT THE WE STARTED TO SEE SOME AND HOPEFULLY CONTINUE TO SEE THAT IMPROVEMENT AND GET THOSE NUMBERS DOWN.

>> ANY LAST COMMENTS FOR THE CAPTAIN? >> YEAH.

I'LL COMMENT ON THE IDEA THAT THE MAJORITY OF FOLKS IN THE JAIL ARE INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN

GUILTY. >> THANK YOU, PLEASE. >> THE SYSTEM IS BUILT, AS YOU KNOW, TO HAVE A JURY OF YOUR PEERS DETERMINE THAT YOU'RE GUILTY BEYOND A REASONABLE DOUBT THAT HAPPENS AT TRIAL. IT'S POSSIBLE THAT THERE'S A PLEA IN THE INTERIM.

BUT THE SYSTEM ALSO HAS CHECKS TO ENSURE THAT THERE IS SOME SUBSTANTIATION, SOME SUBSTANCE TO BELIEVE THAT A CRIME OCCURRED. THE OFFICER MAKING THE ARREST HAS TO DETERMINE THAT THERE'S PROBABLE CAUSE TO MAKE THE ARREST.

THAT IS ABOUT A MID-LEVEL BURDEN. IT'S NOT THE BURDEN OF BEYOND A REASONABLE DOUBT, BUT IT'S A SUBSTANTIAL BURDEN THE OFFICER HAS TO MAKE THAT DETERMINATION.

COMMISSIONER SHELL MENTIONED THE 48-HOUR RULE THAT'S COUNTY OF RIVERSIDE, MCLOUGHLIN EARLY 90'S CASE THAT SAYS WE HAVE TO BRING AN ARRESTEE BEFORE A MAGISTRATION WITHIN 48 HOURS.

THAT MAGISTRATE DETERMINES THAT THERE IS PROBABLE CAUSE THAT A CRIME EXISTED.

THEY ADMONISH THEM CERTAIN RIGHTS, SET A BOND, DO OTHER THINGS LIKE THAT.

AND THEN FOR A FELONY CASES THERE IS A GRAND JURY THAT DETERMINES THAT THERE'S PROBABLE CAUSE, AGAIN, TO BIND THE CASE OVER FOR TRIAL. THOSE ARE ALL INDEPENDENT INDIVIDUALS OR BODIES THAT MAKE A DETERMINATION THAT THIS IS A REAL THING AND NOT JUST A FIGMENT OF THE IMAGINATION. IT'S NOT TO SAY THAT SOMEONE COULDN'T BE FOUND NOT GUILTY AT TRIAL. THAT HAPPENS, AS YOU KNOW. BUT THAT'S A DIFFERENT BURDEN.

IT'S A BURDEN BEYOND A REASONABLE DOUBT THE WAY THE SYSTEM WORKS.

BUT THE LIST THAT JULIE WENT THROUGH EARLIER, I THINK THAT MOST FOLKS IF THEY FOUND THAT EITHER THREE INDIVIDUALS OR THREE ENTITIES DETERMINE THAT THERE WAS PROBABLE CAUSE THERE, CRIME EXISTED. THERE'S A BOND SET AND MAYBE A HIGH BOND, BUT THERE'S A BOND SET. THEN I THINK MOST INDIVIDUALS WOULD FEEL FINE LETTING THE SYSTEM RUN ITSELF FROM THERE. ANYWAY, THAT'S -- I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S NOT AN IDEA OUT THERE THAT THERE'S NO CHECK AND BALANCE AGAINST THE OFFICERS ARREST.

THERE IS AND IT HAPPENS QUICKLY. >> THANK YOU, MR. KENNEDY. ANOTHER THOUGHT THAT I WAS GOING TO FERRET OUT SOME MORE DETAILS ON, BUT I DIDN'T WANT TO PRESS THE CAPTAIN BECAUSE I HAD WRITTEN ENOUGH QUESTIONS WHEN WE WERE TALKING, WAS THE WHOLE DEBTOR'S PRISON COMMUNICATION THAT WE KEEP HEARING ABOUT. SO IN YOUR CLARIFICATION, WHICH I, THE BOND BEING SET COMPONENT, DO WE HAVE SOMETHING EFFECTIVE OR USEFUL, PRODUCTIVE TO HELP THE CAPTAIN IN SOME WAY TO SAY

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>> SURE. IT'S NOT CAPTAINBONDO'S JOB TO LOOK AT THE LIST OF BONDS AND ALL. THAT I THINK WE DO COMMUNICATE FROM TIME TO TIME THAT IS PRIMARILY THE JOB OF THE DEFENSE COUNCIL AND COURTS TO LOOK AT THAT SYSTEM TO MAKE SURE THE BONDS ARE SET PROPERLY. THAT'S WHY WE ESTABLISHED A FULL-TIME MAGISTRATE AND TWO-PART-TIME MAGISTRATES AS ASSOCIATE JUDGES SO THERE IS NO GAP BETWEEN THE CHARGE AND THE INDICTMENT OF THE GRAND JURY THAT THERE CAN BE A BOND REDUCTION THAT'S GIVEN.

THE SYSTEM HAD A LITTLE BIT OF A WRINKLE IN IT BEFORE WHEN WE HAD JRP DOING MAGISTRATION BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T HAVE JURISDICTION OVER WELL THEY DIDN'T FEEL THAT THEY COULD SECONDGUESS A BOND UNTIL AN INDICTMENT CAME DOWN. NOW THERE'S AN ASSOCIATE ACTING AS MAGISTRATE THERE IS NO GAP.

SO THAT CAN HAPPEN. THERE ARE SEVERAL INDIVIDUALS LOOKING AT THAT.

NOW KEEP IN MIND THAT IF IT'S A VIOLENT CRIME OR IF THERE'S A HISTORY OF VIOLENT CRIME ON A PERSON'S RAP SHEET STATE LAW PROVIDES THERE CANNOT BE A PR BOND IF SOMEONE IS CONVICTED OF ASSAULT FAMILY VIOLENCE, THAT PERSON CANNOT GET A PR BOND. IT'S SIMPLY NOT STAT ORAL ALLOWED. THERE ARE -- STATUTORILY ALLOWED.

THERE ARE PROHIBITIONS OF THAT. A PERSON'S RECORD MAY BE A STRONG INDICATOR OF WHY THE BOND

IS SET WHERE IT IS AND NOT THE CURREN CHARGE. >> YES, SIR.

THAT'S WHY I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND AND AGREE WITH IT AND SO HAPPILY FOR NOW JUDGE BEN MOOR TO BE THERE AND HE'S ONE OF THE FOLKS I SPOKE WITH YESTERDAY ONE OF THE JUDGES AND I HAD NO INDICATORS NEGATIVE OR CONWHAT IS THE SPIRIT OF THE CREATION OF THE POSITION AND THE WORK LOAD AND THE TASK AT HAND. TOTALLY IN MIND WITH ALL THAT AND I TOTALLY SUPPORT IT.

TRUST BUT VERIFY. THAT'S WHY I WAS ASKING THE QUESTION.

EVEN THOUGH WE HAVE THE WRINKLE WITH THE NEW ASSOCIATE AND TWO ASSOCIATE JUDGE AND TWO PART-TIME ASSOCIATE JUDGES HELPING OUT TO GET THAT WRINKLE OUT, I STILL WANTED TO JUST SEE THE POTENTIAL FOR US TO AGAIN IT GOES BACK TO HELPING THE CAPTAIN WITH THE POPULATION AND MAKING SURE THAT WHAT WE'RE GOING THIS NEW UNWRINKLED SETUP THAT IT'S ACTUALLY -- THAT'S ALL IT WAS

ABOUT. THANK YOU CAPTAIN. >> CAN YOU TELL ME AGAIN, YOU MENTIONED EARLIER HOW MANY ARE CURRENTLY IN THERE FOR AWAITING CHARGES ON MURDER OR SEX CRIMES?

>> I CHECKED ON -- I CHECKED THAT THE OTHER DAY. I HAVE 30 THAT ARE CURRENTLY IN CUSTODY FOR OR HAVE BEEN SUSPECTED OF MURDER THE I'M EITHER GETTING THESE TWO NUMBERS MIXED UP, BUT EITHER I HAD 61 AGGRAVATED OFFENSES AND ASSAULT CHARGES AND 75 SEXUAL OFFENSES.

OR IT'S EITHER OR. I CAN'T REMEMBER. JUDGE, IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE ALSO THAT THE PRETRIAL SERVICES HAS ALSO BEEN AMAZING. I KNOW YOU TALK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WHAT HAPPENS IS IF JUDGE MORE AND HIS TEAM HAVE DONE AN AMAZING JOB TO HELP US REDUCE THAT PEOPLE STAYING WITH US BY LOWERING BONDS. BUTTS SECOND PART OF THAT IS IF THEY ARE NOT ABLE TO GET OUT OF JAIL BY JUDGE MOORE'S BOND, THEN THOSE PEOPLE ARE TURNED OVER TO PRETRIAL SERVICES, AND THEN THEY LOOK AT THEM AND THEY HAVE A RISK ASSESSMENT TOOL THAT THEY GO BY TO MAKE A DECISION OF WHETHER THAT PERSON CAN STILL GET OUT OF JAIL.

THEY COMMUNICATE WITH THE DISTRICT JUDGES AND THEN NOSHGHTSDS ANOTHER DECISION IS MADE. SO THERE'S JUDGE MORE. THEN THERE'S PRETRIAL SERVICES BEFORE AN INMATE STAYS. AGAIN, THOSE ARE TWO VERY HELPFUL METHODS HAVE BEEN IN PUT IN PLACE THAT ARE REALLY HELPING US. I DON'T KNOW WHEN WE'LL REALLY SEE THE FULL EFFECT OF IT BUT THOSE ARE GREAT STEPS. IT'S HELPING A LOT.

>> EVERYONE AND EVERY STEP TAKEN TO PUT US WHERE WE ARE TODAY AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT GETS

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>> NO, NO. >> AND I'M NOT ADVOCATING TO RELEASE THOSE FOLKS THAT ARE COMMISSIONER JONES IS REFERENCING RIGHT NOW. THOSE PEOPLE SHOULD STAY THERE.

NOT A DEBATE ON THE PLANET FOR ME. UNTIL THE PROCESS IS PROPERLY IDENTIFIED. I'M ONLY INTERESTED WHAT I WOULD THINK OF LOW-HANGING FRUIT, NOT YET FOUND GUILTY, WHO COULDN'T AFFORD THEIR BOND ANY LOW-LEVEL OFFENSES CITEABLE OFFENSES ANYTHING THAT GOVERNOR RICK PERRY SAYS YOU CAN GIVE THESE PEOPLE TICKETS.

ANY OF THE LOW HANG FRUIT IS HOW I SEE IT. NOT HAVING YOU SHUFFLE THROUGH THEM WHILE FIGHTING 45 PEOPLE IN YOUR JAIL COVID I THINK IS ONE OF THE WAYS WE CAN HELP.

>> ALL RIGHT THANK YOU, JUDGE. >> THANKS AGAIN FOR EVERYTHING YOU'VE DONE.

>> THANK YOU. >> GOVERNOR? >> NO, NO.

THAT WAS RICK PERRY'S ORDER. THANK YOU I APPRECIATE IT. OK.

WILL YOU PLEASE OPEN IN THE SPIRIT, I'M GOING TO KEEP RUNNING IT COURT IN A WAY THAT WILL EMPTY THIS COURT AS IN A TIMELY MANNER, AND SO ONCE YOUR AGENDA ITEMS HAVE BEEN READ I ASK THAT YOU GO TO A TELEVISED VERSION OF THIS COURT. I AM UNDER THE IMPRESSION THAT 7 AND 18 ARE WHAT'S HOLDING PEOPLE RIGHT NOW SO I WILL ASK THAT YOU PLEASE OPEN 7 NEXT.

>> NUMBER AUTHORIZE THE HEYS COUNTY CRIMINAL DISTRICT ATTORNEY TO PURCHASE FIVE NEW

[7. Authorize the Hays County Criminal District Attorney to purchase five (5) new Dell Latitude 3410 laptops valued at $4,024.00 and amend the budget accordingly. INGALSBE/MAU]

>> SECOND. AND WE HAVE COMMISSIONER WEST -- WES MAU READY TO SPEAK IF YOU'LL

APPROACH THE BODE YUM AND STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD. >> THANK YOU, JUDGE I'M WES MAU THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY FOR HAYS COUNTY. THESE COMPUTERS ARE PART OF -- WELL THERE'S ACTUALLY TWO THINGS GOING ON HERE. WE HAVE LAPTOPS FOR MOST OF OUR ATTORNEY EMPLOYEES SOME OF THOSE LAPTOPS ARE STARTING TO BREAK THEIR BATTERIES ARE STARTING TO SWELL AND OUR I.T. DEPARTMENT IS RECOMMENDING THEY BE REPLACED. WHAT WE'RE ALSO DOING IN THE D.A.'SOFFS DURING THE COVID SITUATION IS WE ARE WORKING ON A THREE-WEEK ROTATION WHERE I HAVE ONE-THIRD OF MYS PRESENT DURING ANY PARTICULAR WEEK AND AT HOME TELECOMMUNICATING FOR TWO WEEKS.

WHAT THAT ENABLETED US TO DO IS -- ENABLED US TO DO IS MAINTAIN SOCIAL DISTANCING IN OUR OFFICE WHICH IS RELATIVELY CROWDED OTHERWISE AND ALSO DE FACTO QUARANTINE EVERYBODY FOR TWO WEEKS BEFORE THEY COME BACK TO WORK. IF SOMEBODY DOES CONTRACT COVID PRESUMABLY WE'LL FIND OUT OR SHOW SYMPTOMS BEFORE THEY EVER RETURN TO WORK DURING THAT TWO-WEEK PERIOD OF TIME. WE HAVE BEEN VERY SUCCESSFUL SO FAR FOR AN OFFICE OF MY SIZE I THINK AVOIDING ANY SERIOUS ISSUES RELATING TO FOLKS HAD MY OFFICE CONTRACTING COVID.

PART OF WHAT'S NECESSARY FOR US TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT FOR THE TELECOMMUNICATING IS PARTICULARLY MY ATTORNEYS TO BE ABLE TO OPERATE FROM HOME. THEY NEED TO HAVE COMPUTERS WHERE THEY CAN ACCESS THE MATERIALS ON OUR DATA BASES AND OUR NETWORK.

THEY ALSO NEED TO HAVE CAMERAS WHERE THEY CAN UTILIZE ZOOM HEARINGS AND THINGS LIKE IT TO CONDUCT THE COURT HEARINGS THE CORTS ARE CURRENTLY DOING BY REMOTE.

-- COURTS. THESE COMPUTERS ARE, THEREFORE, CRUCIAL TO THAT.

ONE OF THE WAYS WE'RE PAYING FOR THIS, AS YOU'LL SEE FROM THE SUPPORTING DOCUMENTATION IS WE'RE ASKING TO AMEND THE BUDGET TO DECREASE OUR CONTINUING EDUCATION FUNDS.

THAT IS ALSO AN OPPORTUNITY THAT COVID IS GETTING US BECAUSE WHILE WE NORMALLY SEND A BUNCH OF PEOPLE TO VARIOUS SEMINARS AND THINGS LIKE THAT IN ORDER TO MAINTAIN THEIR -- SO THEIR LICENSES DON'T GET REVOKED THAT'S USUALLY DONE ON SITE. THIS YEAR THAT'S NOT HAPPENING.

SO A LOT OF THE TRAINING WOULD NORMALLY NOT BE OFFERED ONLINE IS GOING TO OFFERED ONLINE.

WE'RE CUTTING OUT A LOT OF THE TRAVEL EXPENDITURES AND THE COMPUTERS THE BULK THAT THROUGH REDUCTION AND EXPENSES. SO THAT'S WHAT THAT IS ALL ABOUT.

>> THANK YOU, MR. MAU. DO YOU HAVE QUESTIONS COMMISSIONERS? I GOT A QUICK QUESTION FOR YOU. FIRST, I WANT TO COMPLIMENT YOUR WAY OF ROTATING THE STAFF.

THAT IS VERY WELL DONE. >> THANK YOU. PERFECT.

HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE YOU ROTATING IN YOUR OFFICE AT A TIME? AND WHAT'S THE TOTAL HEAD COUNT?

>> WE GOT ABOUT 80 PEOPLE THAT WORK IN THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.

THERE ARE A COUPLE OF THEM, MYSELF, MY FIRST ASSISTANT, MY OPPOSITE ADMINISTRATOR WHO ARE COMING IN EVERY DAY. SO I'M NOT PART OF THE ROTATION. MY FIRST ASSISTANT IS NOT PART OF THE ROTATION. GENERALLY EVERYBODY ELSE IS. SO OF THE REMAINING 70 PLUS PEOPLE ABOUT A THIRD ARE PRESENTLY -- PRESENT IN THE OFFICE FOR ANY PARTICULAR TIME.

IT'S NOT PRECISE. A THIRD, A THIRD, A THIRD BECAUSE WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, COURT

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PRESENT AT ANY ONE TIME. >> BEAUTIFUL. OUR I.T. DEPARTMENT SAYS YES YOU NEED THESE REPLACEMENTS. THESE ARE REPLACEMENT COMPUTERS RIGHT?

>> I BELIEVE A COUPLE ARE REPLACEMENTS. THERE MAY BE -- SOME OF THEM ARE NEW COMPUTERS AS WELL FOR INDIVIDUALS WHO JUST DON'T HAVE -- WHO HAVE NOT HAD LAPTOPS PREVIOUSLY. THE ATTORNEYS HAVE ALL HAD LAPTOPS.

COUPLE ARE TO REPLACE ATTORNEYS' LAPTOPS. SOME ARE FOR OUR STAFF WHO DO

NOT HAVE THE COMPUTERS AT HOME. >> THE REASON I ASK IS BECAUSE I WOULD LIKE FOR YOU WHEN COURT IS OVER TO REFER TO OUR AUDITOR'S OFFICE SO THAT YOU CAN FILE THAT IN A COVID WAY CODE IN COVID BECAUSE WE HAVE A HIGH THE OF GETTING REIMBURSED FOR THE WORK THAT YOU ARE DOING AND THE STEPS

YOU ARE TAKING DURING THIS PANDEMIC. >> IT CERTAINLY IS THE AGENDA ITEM REQUEST FORM MENTIONS THE COVID-19 RELATIONSHIP THERE, BUT I CAN --

>> AND THE AUDITOR CAN HELP US. SHE DOES IT ALL -- THEY DO IT ALL THE TIME.

THEY CAN HELP WALK YOU THROUGH THE EXACT CODING AND WORDING NECESSARY SO THAT WE HAVE THE

HIGHEST PROBABILITY OF REIMBURSEMENT. >> I'M SURE MY OFFICE ADMINISTRATOR IS WATCHING US RIGHT NOW AND SHE'LL BE BE E-MAILING -- IS ON THAT AT

MOMENT. >> THANK YOU, MR. MAU. I APPRECIATE IT.

ARE THERE ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS? OK.

THANK YOU SIRS. >> THERE WAS ONE OTHER AGENDA ITEM.

>> I'M GOING TO CALL THE ROLL. PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. >> COMMISSIONER INGALSBE.

>> YES. >> COMMISSIONER JONES. >> YES COMMISSIONER SHELL.

>> YES. >> COMMISSIONER SMITH. >> AND JUDGE BECERRA.

>> YES. PLEASE OPEN NUMBER 18. >> 18 DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE

[18. Discussion and possible action to authorize the Criminal District Attorney to hire one (1) new Attorney I, grade 117 and related equipment to participate in the Magistrate Study effective July 16, 2020 and amend the budget accordingly. SHELL/MAU]

AMENDMENT THE BUDGET -- AMEND THE BUDGET ACCORDINGLY. >> SECOND.

>> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. >> THANK YOU, JUDGE.

COMMISSIONER SHELL? >> YEAH, THIS POSITION THAT WE'RE REQUESTING IS SPECIFICALLY 20 ACCOMMODATE THE NEEDS OF THE STUDY THAT WAS APPROVED BY THE COMMISSIONERS COURT SEVERAL MONTHS AGO. I CAN'T REMEMBER THE DATE NOW. WHAT THE STUDY IS DESIGNED TO DO IS PROVIDE ATTORNEYS AT THE MAGISTRATION PROCESS FOR INDIVIDUALS ARRESTED.

THE STUDY IS CURRENTLY PAYING FOR THE NUMBER OF ATTORNEYS WHO ARE GOING TO BE IN A ROTATION WORKING IN THAT STUDY AND ESSENTIALLY WHAT HAPPENS IS A PERSON GETS ARRESTED, AS HAD SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT ALREADY THIS MORNING. THEY ARE BROUGHT BEFORE A MAGISTRATE THE FOLLOWING DAY. TYPICALLY WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IS THE MAGISTRATE WOULD ASK THEM A NUMBER OF QUESTIONS ABOUT THE FINANCIAL CIRCUMSTANCES, NOT QUESTIONS ABOUT THE CRIME THEY COMMITTED BUT JUST ABOUT THEIR ABILITY TO POST BOND AND THEIR TIES TO THE COMMUNITY, THINGS LIKE THAT. THE THINGS THAT WOULD BE RELEVANT TO WHETHER OR NOT THAT PERSON CAN BE TRUSTED TO APPEAR TO COURT LATER AND HOW MUCH OF A BOND SHOULD BE SET IN ORDER TO ENSURE THEY WILL. WHAT THE STUDY IS DESIGNED TO DO IS TO COMPARE SITUATIONS WHERE THE PERSON IS REPRESENTED BY AN ATTORNEY AT THAT PROCESS AND WHEN THEY ARE NOT.

AS I MENTIONED, USUALLY THEY ARE NOT. THERE ARE NO ATTORNEYS THERE.

NOBODY PRO THE PROSECUTOR'S OFFICE, NOBODY FROM THE DEFENSE ATTORNEY -- FROM THE PROSECUTOR'S OFFICE. NOBODY FROM THE DEFENSE ATTORNEY'S IS PRESENT.

WHAT THE STUDY IS DOING THEY ARE ESSENTIALLY SIGNING HALF OF THE MAGISTRATION DATES ON A RANDOM BASIS TO BE PART OF THE STUDY WHERE THE STUDY WILL THEN PAY FOR AND ATTORNEY OR TWO ATTORNEYS TO BE PRESENT WHO WILL THEN TALK TO THOSE PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN ARRESTED, BE ABLE TO PRESENT WHATEVER CASE THE PERSON MIGHT HAVE TO THE JUDGE THAT WOULD RELATE TO THEIR BOND AND SEE WHETHER OR NOT THAT MAKES ANY DIFFERENCE. NOT ONLY ON WHAT THE BOND SHOULD BE, BUT THEN THE STUDY THAT'S GOING TO FOLLOW THOSE CASES AFTER THEY GO ON WHEN BOND IS SET TO SEE WHETHER OR NOT THE ATTORNEY OR MAGISTRATION MAKES ANY REAL DIFFERENCE IN THE OUTCOME THE CASE WHETHER THE CASE GETS RESOLVED MORE QUICKLY OR WHETHER THE OUTCOMES ARE BET WHAERT BONDS ARE AND SO FOSHTH. THE STUD -- BETTER AND WHETHER THE BONDS ARE AND SO FORTH.

THEY HAVE NOT REQUIRED A PROSECUTOR TO BE PRESENT AT THOSE HEARINGS AS WELL.

OBVIOUSLY, IN REAL LIFE SITUATION WHERE DEFENSE ATTORNEYS ARE GOING TO PRESENT DURING THE MAGISTRATION TO BE PRESENT ALSO EXPECT PROSECUTORS TO BE PRESENT.

THE STUDY I THINK AND THIS IS MY OPINION, THE STUDY I THINK WILL NOT PROVIDE US WITH GOOD DATA

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THAT IS GOING TO THROW THE DATA OFF. ALSO WE'RE GOING TO DEALING WITH PEOPLE WHO ARE UNREPRESENTED BY ATTORNEYS AND MAGISTRATION WHO ARE ALSO IN THE SAME COVID SITUATION. HOPE WILL HELP THAT OUT A LITTLE BIT.

THE FIRST SESSION OF THE STUDY TOOK PLACE YESTERDAY AND JUST TO GO BACK TO A QUESTION YOU WERE ASKING EARLIER, JUDGE BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE STAFF IN MY OFFICE CURRENTLY TO ASSIGN TO THAT PROJECT. I DID IT MYSELF. THERE WERE EIGHT PEOPLE

MAGISTRATED YESTERDAY. >> WHAT? DO YOU KNOW THE TIME?

THE TIME THEY WERE MAGISTRATED? WAS IT MORNING OR AFTERNOON? >> MORNING.

WE RECEIVED -- THE WAY IT IS CURRENTLY -- THIS MAY EVOLVE OVER TIME, BUT THE WAY IT'S CURRENTLY SET UP THE INDIVIDUAL IS ARRESTED IN THE AFTERNOON OR THE NIGHT BEFORE.

THEY ARE BROUGHT IN BEFORE THE MAGISTRATE THE NEXT DAY. THE MATERIALS RELATING TO THOSE INDIVIDUALS, THE PROBABLE CAUSE AFFIDAVITS THAT ARE PREPARED BY THE POLICE OFFICERS, THE ARRESTS SHEETS THAT ARE FILLED OUT BY THE JAIL STAFF, AND THEINAL HISTORY RECORDS ARE OBTAINED BY THE MAGISTRATE'S OFFICE. THE MAGISTRATE'S OFFICE THEN SENDS TO THE PROSECUTOR AND THE DEFENSE ATTORNEY THE MATERIALS OTHER THAN THE CRIMINAL HISTORY RECORDS, WHICH ARE BY FEDERAL LAW NOT SOMETHING THAT THEY CAN E-MAIL TO PEOPLE. THE ATTORNEYS THEN BEGIN TO MEET. THEY ARE PROVIDE TEN MINUTES, I BELIEVE, A PIECE TO MEET WITH THE DEFENDANTS BEFORE THEY ARE BROUGHT BEFORE THE MAGISTRATE. AND THEN RIGHT NOW WE'RE DOING THIS VIA ZOOM REMOTELY, SO I WAS IN MY OFFICE. THE DEFENSE ATTORNEYS WERE IN THEIR OFFICES. THE JAIL STAFF BRINGS IN THE DEFENDANTS TO ONE OF THE VIDEO CONFERENCING ROOMS AT THE JAIL, AND THE MAGISTRATE DOES THE TYPICAL MAGISTRATION PAPERWORK, READS THEM THEIR RIGHTS, LET'S THEM KNOW WHAT THEY ARE CHARGED WITH.

LET'S THEM KNOW THEY HAVE CERTAIN RIGHTS TO HAVE AN ATTORNEY APPOINTED AND SO FORTH.

ED THEN BECAUSE THE ATTORNEY IS THERE, THAT ALLOWS THE MAGISTRATE TO NOT -- IT'S NO LONGER NECESSARY FOR THE MAGISTRATE IN THAT SITUATION TO ASK ALL THE QUESTIONS THEY NORMALLY WOULD ABOUT THEIR PERSONAL SITUATION AND FINANCIAL SITUATION BECAUSE THE ATTORNEY WILL THEN PRESENT THAT INFORMATION TO THE COURT IF THERE'S ANYTHING RELEVANT TO PRESENT. THERE THE PROSECUTOR THEN OF COURSE, CAN I MAKE WHATEVER PITCH I FEEL IS NECESSARY TO MAKE FOR PURPOSES OF SETTING THE BOND.

I WILL TELL YOU YESTERDAY -- THIS IS A VERY SMALL SAMPLE SIZE OF CASES BUT YESTERDAY IT WENT VERY SMOOTHLY. NEITHER MYSELF NOR THE DEFENSE ATTORNEY HAD ANY SERIOUS OBJECTIONS TO ANY OF THE BONDS THAT WERE SET BY THE COURTS. EVERY SINGLE PERSON THAT WAS ELIGIBLE FOR A PERSON COGNIZANT BOND WAS PROVIDED WITH A PERSONAL BOND SO THEY WERE NOT REQUIRED TO POST ANY MONEY TO GET OUT THERE. WERE NO MURDERERS OR EXTREMELY SERIOUS CASES ON THE MAGISTRATION DOCKET YESTERDAY. THERE WERE A NUMBER OF PEOPLE ARRESTED ON OUT OF COUNTY WARRANTS WHERE THE WARRANT, THE BONDS HAD BEEN SET BY OUT OF COUNTY JUDGES, SO U JUDGE COULDN'T MAKE ANY CHANGE TO THAT.

AND A COUPLE THAT WERE ARRESTED FOR OFFENSES THAT BECAUSE OF THE LAW, THEY WERE NOT PERMITED TO GET PERSONAL BONDS. THEY WERE SET -- IN MY OPINION WERE RELATIVELY LOW BONDS, BONDS THAT THEY COULD MAKE AND ARE PRETRIAL SERVICES DEPARTMENT ON A COUPLE OF THE CASES HAD RECOMMENDATIONS FOR CONDITIONS ON THOSE BONDS, FOR EXAMPLE, THERE WERE A COUPLE OF PEOPLE ARRESTED FOR FAMILY VIOLENCE ASSAULT. THE CONDITIONS WERE THAT THEY STAY AWAY FROM THE PERSON THEY ASSAULTED. I THINK THAT PROBABLY MAKES SENSE TO EVERYBODY. ONE THING THE ATTORNEYS WERE ABLE TO ACCOMPLISH IN THAT CASE THEY WERE ABLE TO TELL THE ZWLUJ PERSON DOES HAVE SOMEWHERE ELSE TO GO RATHER THAN BACK TO THE HOUSE WHERE IT OCCURRED WHICH IS USEFUL INFORMATION THE COURT TO HAVE SO THEY WERE ABLE TO ENSURE THIS PERSON WASN'T HAVE TO GO BACK AND STRAIGHT VIOLATE THE CONDITIONS OF THE BOND THEY WERE SETTING. SOP THERE IS -- IT REMAINS TO BE SEEN.

THAT'S WHAT THE STUDY IS FOR IS TO SEE WHETHER OR NOT THAT MAKES ANY DIFFERENCE EXCEPT IN A FEW MARGINAL CASES. BUT THAT PROCESS I THINK WILL NOT WORK AND WILL NOT GIVE US GOOD DATA UNLESS THERE IS A PROSECUTOR PRESENT THERE. CURRENTLY, THESE MAGISTRATIONS

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I ALSO HAVE MEETINGS OR COURT HEARINGS I HAVE TO ATTEND TO. SO UNLIKE YESTERDAY WHERE I DID HAVE A FREE MORNING AND I WAS ABLE TO DO IT MYSELF IT'S GOING TO BE DIFFICULT TO FIND SOMEBODY ON A LOT OF OCCASIONS TO BE PRESENT IN THOSE MAGISTRATIONS. WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE IS THIS HIRE, WOULD BE A NEW ATTORNEY WHO WOULD BE DEDICATED TO BEING PRESENT AT THOSE MEETINGS. IN OTHER WORDS, THEY WOULD NOT BE ASSIGNED OTHER DUTIES THAT WOULD CONFLICT BEING PRESENT AT MAGISTRATION. THAT PROS I THINK WILL PROBABLY ASIDE FROM OCCURRING EVERY DAY OF THE WEEK IT'S ALSO GOING TO BE HAPPENING ON WEEKENDS.

SO THIS PERSON'S SCHEDULE IS GOING TO BE FAIRLY ODD FOR WHAT WE NORMALLY THINK OF AS AN 8 TO 5 KIND OF JOB FOR THE PEOPLE WHO WORK AT GOVERNMENT CENTER. THEY WILL BE WORKING EVERY OTHER MORNING ON MAGISTRATION, INCLUDING WEEKENDS. THERE WILL ALSO BE OTHER TASKS THAT I WILL ASSIGN TO THAT PERSON THAT WILL ENSURE THAT THOSE TASKS DON'T CONFLICT WITH THE MAGISTRATION STUDY IS THEY WILL BE ABLE TO FILL IN A 40-HOUR WORK WEEK ASSUMING THE MAGISTRATION STUDY ITSELF DOESN'T TAKE UP 40 HOURS, WHICH I THINK THEY ARE ESTIMATING ABOUT A 30-HOUR WEEK IS WHAT THEY ARE THINKING THE STUDY FOLKS ARE THINKING WILL BE REQUIRED FOR THE ATTORNEYS INVOLVED. OBVIOUSLY I HAVE ANOTHER TEN HOURS OF WORK THAT WILL BE ASSIGNED TO THE PROSECUTOR IN THE OFFICE AND THAT'S WHAT I

INTEND TO DO. >> WHAT IS THE LENGTH OF TIME FOR THAT STUD?

>> I -- STUDY? >> I BELIEVE THE STUDY IS GOING TO GO FOR ABOUT A YEAR, AND THEN ONE OF THE THINGS THEY ARE GOING TO DO, AS I MENTIONED EARLIER IS THEY ARE GOING TO STUDY THE MAGISTRATION PROCESS AND HOW IT AFFECTS THE FINAL OUTCOME OF THE CASE.

SO THEY ARE GOING TO HAVE TO FOLLOW THOSE CASES AFTER THE MAGISTRATION PROCESS IS OVER WITH. SO THE PART OF THE PART OF THE STUDY THEY WILL BE FUNDING IS NOT GOING TO THE ENTIRE TIME OF THE STUDY. I BELIEVE COMMISSIONER SHELL WILL BE AS I DO. I BELIEVE THAT WILL BE A MORE THAN A YEAR AND FOLLOW THEM FOR

SIX MONTHS AFTER THAT. >> IT'S ONE YEAR OF THE STUDY FOR THE MAGISTRATION.

>> IS IT SIX MONTHS? >> I CAN'T REMEMBER THE FOLLOWUP TIME FRAME IS.

BUT JUST KIND OF A REMINDER THERE'S I THINK THREE COUNTIES INVOLVED IN DIFFERENT LAWSUITS ACROSS THE STATE INVOLVING COUNCIL MAGISTRATION. I BELIEVE THERE'S A HANDFUL OF COUNTIES THAT PROVIDE PUBLIC DEFENDERS FOR MAGISTRATION, MAYBE ONE OR TWO IN THE STATE.

AND THEN THERE'S THE REST FOR THE MOST PART THAT DON'T. SEVERAL OF THOSE COUNTIES THAT DON'T I BELIEVE DALLAS COUNTY WAS ONE. I BELIEVE GALVESTON COUNTY WAS ONE. I CAN'T REMEMBER. I THINK HARRIS COUNTY WAS THE

ORE ONE. >> I THINK HARRIS COUNTY WAS INVOLVED IN THE BIG LAWSUIT.

>> MAYBE NOW DOES PROVIDE ONE OF THE COUNTIES THAT DOES. IN TEXAS BECAUSE OF THE WAY OUR SYSTEM WOSHTIONS THIS WAS -- WORKS, THIS WAS SOMEWHAT NEW. SO THE STATE HAD SOME IDEAS OF HOW COULD WE DETERMINE IF THIS WAS SOMETHING THAT COULD PROVIDE BETTER OUTCOMES? THIS WAS -- HARVARD COMBINED ON THIS. THE TEX FENCE COMMISSION WAS FACILITATING THE STUDY -- TEXAS DEFENSE COMMISSION WAS FACILITATING THE STUDY.

THEY OFFERED TO PAY FOR THE COUNCIL MAGISTRATION OF THE DEFENSE.

I BELIEVE THERE'S ONE OTHER COUNTY. I BELIEVE IT'S LUBBOCK.

I THINK COLLIN WAS PARTIALLY IN ON IT. EITHER WAY THERE ARE TWO COUNTIES PARTICIPATING IN THIS. HAYS COUNTY WAS ONE OF THEM. THEY WERE HAVING A HARD TIME FINDING PEOPLE TO PARTICIPATE IN THIS. WE JUMPED ON IT AND THOUGHT THIS WOULD BE VERY GOOD ALONG WITH THE OTHER FORMS WE WERE LOOKING AT TO GET A LOOK AT NOT JUST WHAT COUNCIL MAGISTRATION PROVIDES AS FAR AS OUTCOMES, THE BUT THE ABILITY TO FOLLOW THOSE CASES ALL THE WAY THROUGH AND GET THAT DATA AND SEE EXACTLY WHAT'S HAPPENED IN OUR SYSTEM.

SO I THOUGHT IT WAS A REALLY GOOD IDEA FOR THOSE REASONS. I THINK MR. MAU IS CORRECT THAT THE STUDY PROBABLY WOULDN'T BE AS ACCURATE IF WE DON'T HAVE THE PROSECUTING ATTORNEY THERE BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN IN REALITY AND THAT'S WHAT DOES SCHAAP THAT THE D.A.'S OFFICE IS GOING TO HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE INVOLVED AND IF WE DON'T HAVE ONE THEN IT'S NOT GOING TO BE HAPPENING IF REAL LIFE. SO I'M EXCITED ABOUT IT AND I'M GLAD IT'S FINALLY GOTTEN UNDER WAY. WE WERE DELAYED FOR A WHILE BECAUSE OF COVID FOR THE MOST PART. WE'LL SEE HOW THINGS GO.

I THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT WILL PROVIDE US WITH A LOT OF GREAT INFORMATION FOR A LONG TIME TO COME. AND I THINK WE'LL FIND SOME OTHER IMPROVEMENTS ALONG THE WAY. WE'RE KIND OF DEVISING THIS AS WE GO RIGHT NOW BECAUSE IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S VERY NEW AND ESPECIALLY IN THE WORLD WE'RE IN RIGHT NOW AS FAR AS COVID DOES

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>> I TOTALLY BELIEVE IN THE STUDY. I BELIEVE IN WHAT'S BEING DONE.

I'M FOR THE WORK. I THINK IT'S AWESOME. MY ONLY HANG-UP IS FUNDING A POSITION FOR A SHORT-TERM STUDY WHILE WE HAVE -- NOT BEING CRITICAL.

I JUST IMENTD COMPL THE OFFICE, BUT ANY EMPLOYEES. -- I JUST COMPLIMENTED THE OFFICE. I'M WONDERING IF WE HAVE THE LABOR POOL TO MANAGE IT WITHOUT HAVING TO ADD ANOTHER PERSON. THAT IS MY ONLY CONCERN. I BELIEVE IN THE WORK.

I BELIEVE IN THE EFFICIENCIES AND I BN THE RESEARCH THAT WILL COME OF IT.

IT'S JUST THE ADDING ANOTHER PERMANENT FULL-TIME POSITION JUST FOR THIS STUDY.

MY HOPE IS THAT YOU WOULD PULL IT FROM YOUR POOL OF 80 PEOPLE. >> AND MOST OF THE PEOPLE IN MY OFFICE ARE NOT ATTORNEYS. SO LET ME -- I DON'T HAVE 80 LAWYERS WORKING MY OFFICE.

WE HAVE CURRENTLY THERE'S MYSELF MY ASSISTANT. THREE ATTORNEYS PER COURT.

WE'RE WORKING ON GETTING MORE ATTORNEYS IN THE DISTRICT COURTS AND COUNTY COURTS.

THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE. THOSE FOLKS WHEN HAVE OTHER CIVIL RELATED MATTERS IN MY OFFICE. ALL THOSE COURTS TO WHICH THE ATTORNEYS ARE ASSIGNED ARE HOLDING COURT TO WHICH THE IMAGINE STHRATION STUDIES ARE HAPPENING NOT INCLUDING ON THE WEEKENDS WHERE I'VE GOT FOLKS IN MY OFFICE WHO ARE WORK -- MAGISTRATION -- WORKING MORE THAN 40 HOURS A WEEK ON THE CASES THEY ARE ASSIGNED TO. HAVE THEM ASSIGN HEARINGS ON THE WEEKENDS AS WELL WOULD MEAN THOSE PEOPLE WOULD BE WORKING SEVEN DAYS A WEEK IF I WERE TO TRY TO ASSIGN IT TO MY CURRENT STAFF. THE OTHER PROBLEM WITH ASSIGNING IT TO MY CURRENT STAFF WHO HAVE ALL THESE OTHER CASES ASSIGNED TO THEM IS THAT I COULD NOT I WOULD REGULAR GUARANTEE THAT THEY WOULD BE UNAVAILABLE TO THE MAGISTRATION STUDY WORK AT THE TIME THE MAGISTRATION STUDY IS GOING ON BECAUSE THEY ARE GOING TO RANDOMLY SET.

THEY ARE NOT GOING TO BE COORDINATED WITH ANY PROSECUTORS BECAUSE PEOPLE IN MY OFFICES IN TERMS OF THE OTHER SETINGS THEY HAVE GOT. IF I DON'T HAVE A PERSON WHO CAN SAY THIS PERSON DOES NOT HAVE COURT SETINGS IN OTHER CASES IN OTHER COURTS, I'M NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO GUARANTEE I CAN HAVE SOMEBODY SHOW UP AT THE MAGISTRATION STUDY.

I DO THINK THIS EMPLOYEE ASSUMING THE COURT APPROVES IT, THERE'S GOING TO BE TIMES THAT PERSON GETS SICK. THAT PERSON GOES ON VACATION. THINGS LIKE THAT.

I'M GOING TO HAVE TO FROM TIME TO TIME TRY TO FIND SOMEBODY WHO DOESN'T HAVE SOMETHING GOING ON THAT DAY THAT WILL STAND MANY FOR THE MAGISTRATION STUDY. I DON'T THINK I'LL HAVE SOMEBODY

TO DO THAT 100% OF THE TIME. >> IF THIS POSITION GETS DEDICATED AND CREATED, IT'S TWO PART. WITHOUT POSITION END WHEN THE STUDY ENDS? OR WOULD YOU FIND, OF COURSE YOU COULD FIND NEW WORK FOR THEM. AND BY THE COURT APPROVING THIS POSITION, THEN YOU WOULD GUARANTEE FULL SUPPORT AND PARTICIPATION FROM THE D.A.'S

OFFICE IN THIS STUDY THAT IS SO WONDERFUL. >> RIGHT.

>> THE LAERT STATEMENT WHAT I'M HOPING TO DO WITH THIS. I FULLY SUPPORT THE STUDY.

I WANT TO SEE WHAT THE DATA SHOWS. IN ORDER TO HAVE THIS HAPPEN IN A WAY THAT WOULD MAKE THE DATA TO HAVE A PROSECUTOR THERE.NEED- SO BEING ABLE TO FULLY PARTICIPATE UNDER THIS IS WHAT I'M TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH WITH THIS.

SO I WOULD BE SATISFIED WITH THE COURT TELLING ME WE'RE ONLY GOING TO FUND THIS POSITION THROUGH THE TERM OF THE STUDY. OBVIOUSLY WHEN THE STUDY ENDS WE'LL BE REVIEWING WHAT THE'S -- WHAT THE D.A.'S OFFICE NEEDS ARE AT THAT TIME AND THAT PERSON FLB A PRIME POSITION TO APPLY FOR THAT. -- WILL BE IN A PRIME POSITION TO APPLY FOR THAT.

I'M TELLING THE COURT I'M ASKING FOR PURPOSES OF THIS STUDY. I HAD ATTEMPTED TO WORK OUT A WAY AND I HAD A CANDIDATE I THOUGHT I MIGHT WORK WITH TO BE ABLE TO DO A PART TIME ONLY WITH THE STUDY KIND OF POSITION WHERE THEY WOULD WORK 30 HOURS A WEEK. THAT CANDIDATE FELL THROUGH AND THE PROBLEM WITH JUST PUTTING OUT A FEELER FOR PEOPLE TO APPLY FOR A POSITION LIKE THAT IS THAT BECAUSE WE ARE A PROFESSIONAL PROSECUTOR'S OFFICE ANYBODY THAT WORKS AS AN ASSISTANT D.A. IN MY OFFICE IS NOT PERMITTED BY LAW TO HAVE A PRIVATE PRACTICE. ANY ATTORNEY THAT WOULD APPLY IN FOR POSITION WOULD BE ESSENTIALLY GIVING UP WHATEVER PRACTICE THEY HAVE NOW OR A

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SO THE ONLY FEASIBLE WAY I THINK TO GET A PERSON TO BE ABLE TO DO THIS IS TO HAVE A FULL-TIME POSITION THAT DOESN'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO BE PERMANENT.

BUT I THINK ANYBODY APPLYING FOR THE JOB WOULD HELP THEM TO GET A FOOT IN THE DOOR IF ANOTHER

POSITION CAME OPEN AND I WOULD EXPECT THAT. >> VERY GOOD.

I APPRECIAE IT. COMMISSIONER SMITH, DID YOU HAVE A QUESTION?

>> YEAH, I DID. I KNOW LOOKING AT OUR ANNUALIZED YEAR BUDGET REQUEST LAST YEAR THAT WE WERE NOT ABLE TO MEET THE PERSONNEL REQUEST THAT YOU HAD, AND AT THE END OF THE DAY WE WERE ABLE TO COME UP WITH MAYBE NOT A SOLUTION, BUT A HAPPY MEDIUM WHERE YOU WERE ABLE TO REACH OUT AND TO CREATE SOME OF THOSE POSITIONS. I KNOW WITH THE GROWTH RATE WE HAVE HAD IN OUR COUNTY AND THE CASELOAD Y'ALL HAVE, I'M SORRY I HAVEN'T HAD A CHANCE TO LOOK AT WHAT Y'ALL REQUESTED THIS YEAR BUT I ASSUME THERE'S ADDITIONAL POSITIONS IN THAT FOR THIS YEAR.

>> THIS YEAR BECAUSE OF THE COVID-19 SITUATION AND UNDERSTANDING I'M SURE THE PRESSURES THAT ARE GOING TO BE ON THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT TO KEEP THE BUDGET WITHIN THE PARAMETERS THAT YOU'RE GOING TO BE GIVEN BY OUR TAX BASE. I'M NOT GOING TO BE REQUESTING ANY NEW ATTORNEYS. OTHER THAN THIS ONE, IF YOU WANT TO COUNT THIS ONE.

I HAVE SOME REQUESTS FOR REVIEW OF SOME OF THE SALARIES OF MY ADMINISTRATIVE STAFF BECAUSE THOSE ARE VERY LOW, AND I'LL CERTAINLY SAVE THAT FOR THE BUDGET CONFERENCE AND SO FORTH.

BUT I WILL NOT BE ASKING FOR ANY NEW ATTORNEYS THIS YEAR. >> AND I APPRECIATE THAT.

I THOUGHT THAT THE WAY THAT YOU HANDLED THE BUDGETARY REQUEST LAST YEAR LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT, GRANTED, BUT HOPEFULLY, WE MET YOUR NEEDS AND I THINK IS DEFINITELY A NEED THAT HAS ARISEN SINCE THAT POINT THAT WE DID NOT ANTICIPATE. I'M NOT ONE TO WANT TO DO BUDGETARY ITEMS ESPECIALLY SALARIES AND STAFF IN BETWEEN BUDGET CYCLES.

BUT I CAN SEE THE NEED NOR AND I WOULD BE SUPPORTIVE. >> THIS WAS ONE THAT I DID NOT CONTEMPLATE IN PREPARING MY BUDGET PROPOSAL LAST YEAR. AND YOU'RE CORRECT.

I DIDN'T GET EVERYTHING I FELT LIKE I NEEDED LAST YEAR, BUT I ALSO DIDN'T EXPECT THE COVID-19 SITUATION WAS GOING TO COME UP. THIS IS ACTUALLY SUPPRESSED CRIME TO A CERTAIN EXTENT.

YOU CLOSE THE BARS AND THE DUI CASES TEND TO DROP OFF. CERTAIN TYPES OF CRIMES ARE HAPPENING MORE, BUT CERTAIN OTHER TYPES OF CRIMES ARE HAPPENING LESS, AND WITHOUT THE COURTS BEING ABLE TO HAVE IN-PERSON HEARINGS WHERE YOU'VE GOT A CROWD COURTROOM FULL OF PEOPLE DURING THIS COVID THING, THE WORKLOAD FOR MY ATTORNEYS IN COURT HAS LESSENED SO THEY ARE ABLE TO DO MORE IN THEIR OFFICES AND I THINK I CAN HOLD OFF ASKING FOR ANY NEW ATTORNEYS FOR NEXT YEAR. I ANTICIPATE WHEN THINGS GET BACK TO NORMAL WE'RE GOING TO START FEELING THE PRESSURE I TOLD YOU ANTICIPATED FEELING THAT WE HAVE GOTTEN A LITTLE BIT OF A RELAXATION FROM DURING THIS PERIOD OF TIME WHEN THE IN PERSON STUFF HAS NOT BEEN ABLE

TO HAPPEN AS MUCH. >> AND I APPRECIATE. THAT I DON'T HAVE ANY MORE QUESTIONS. I WOULD SAY I'M GLAD TO SEE Y'ALL ARE WORKING.

MY COLLEAGUE MENTIONED HARVARD A&M. A&M IS HARVARD OF TEXAS.

I APPRECIATE YOU WORKING WITH THEM. >> NO PROBLEM.

>> COMMISSIONER INGALSBE? >> JUST A QUESTION THAT STUDY IS FOR A YEAR AND TRACKING THE DATA

IS FOR AN ADDITIONAL YEAR. >> WHAT I FELT CONFIDENT WAS ABOUT THAT WE WOULD NEED THIS

ATTORNEY FOR A YEAR. >> BY THAT TIME I'LL BE OUT OF OFFICE.

>> BUT THAT WAS THE POINT I WAS TRYING IT MAKE. WHEN THE STUDY ENDS OR THE ATTORNEY PART OF THE STUDY ENDS THE STUDY WILL BE CONTINUING ON. SO THE STUDY IS GOING TO BE I GUESS TWO YEARS BUT THE ATTORNEY PORTION OF IT WILL BE ONLY FOR A YEAR UNLESS, OF COURSE, THE COURT DECIDES AT THAT POINT THAT THEY WANT TO CONTINUE ON THEIR OWN TIME TO FUND THE ATTORNEY'S MAGISTRATION. LET ME MAKE ONE POINT ABOUT THAT.

BECAUSE THIS ACTUALLY CAME UP YESTERDAY DURING THE MAGISTRATION HEARINGS.

WHEN WE TALK ABOUT A PUBLIC DEFENDERS OFFICE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PEOPLE WHO CAN'T AFFORD COUNCIL ON THEIR OWN. THAT'S ALWAYS ASKED. NO DETERMINATION IS MADE UNTIL MAGISTRATION. SO WHAT WE'RE ESSENTIALLY DOING NOW FOR PURPOSES OF THIS STUDY BECAUSE THE STUDY IS TRYING TO DETERMINE THE EFFECT OF HAVING AN ATTORNEY MAGISTRATION, NOT THE EFFECT OF HAVING AN INDIGENT APPOINTMENT AT MAGISTRATION. THEY ARE GIVING ATTORNEYS TO EVERYBODY, NOT JUST THE PEOPLE WHO DECLARE THEMSELVES TO BE INDIGENT WHO ARE REQUESTING AN APPOINTED ATTORNEY. IF A PERSON REQUESTED AN APPOINTED ATTORNEY AT TIME OF

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WILL BE SOMEONE FROM THE REGULAR INDIGENT APPOINTMENT WHEEL TO BE USED.

THESE ATTORNEYS ARE USED JUST AT MAGISTRATION REGARDLESS OF THEIR FINANCIAL CIRCUMSTANCES.

THAT I THINK IS ONE OF THE CONCERNS THAT THESE LAWSUITS RAISE IS BECAUSE THERE'S BEEN NO DETERMINATION OF IT RAISED UP UNTIL THE PERSON SHODS UP FOR MAGISTRATION, THEN THERE IS REALLY NOTHING THAT WOULD JUSTIFY APPOINTING THEM AN ATTORNEY UNTIL WE MAKE THAT DETERMINATION. SO PART OF THE REASON I THINK THE LAW DOESN'T REQUIRE THAT, AT LEAST THE LAW CURRENTLY THE REQUIRE IT. IT WILL DEPEND ON HOW THESE LAWSUITS COME OUT WHEN THE LAW CHANGES. LAW DOESN'T REQUIRE ATTORNEYS TO BE PRESENT AT MAGISTRATION GENERALLY BECAUSE THAT'S THE POINT AT WHICH YOU MAKE A DETERMINATION AS TO WHETHER OR NOT THE PERSON WOULD BE ENTITLED TO A STATE-FUNDED LAWYER, WHETHER THEY SHOULD HIRE THEIR OWN LAWYER. OF COURSE, ANYBODY WHO CAN MAKE A CALL AND GET A LAWYER IT SHOW UP FOR THEIR MAGISTRATION IF THEY HAVE ONE.

BUT MOST PEOPLE DON'T DO THAT BECAUSE THAT'S JUST -- THAT'S JUST NOT HOW THE PROCESS HAPPENS TOO QUICKLY FOR THEM TO MAKE THOSE ARRANGEMENTS GENERALLY AND THESE ATTORNEYS CAN ALWAYS SHOW UP LATER AND TRY TO MAKE NEW ARRANGEMENTS ON BOND IF IT TURNS OUT THEY HAVE INFORMATION THE COURT WASN'T PROVIDED WITH AT THE TIME THE INITIAL MAGISTRATION.

BUT FOR THIS PURPOSE HERE THESE ATTORNEYS ARE NOT APPOINTED TO REPRESENT THESE PEOPLE EXCEPT FOR THE LIMITED PURPOSE OF THEIR MAGISTRATION, AND FOR THIS PURPOSE AGAIN, IT DOESN'T MATTER WHETHER THE PERSON IS INDIGENT ARE NOT. THEY WOULD APPOINT THE SAME ATTORNEYS TO REPRESENT THE THAT THEY WERE SOME HOMELESS PERSON THAT GETS ARRESTED OR NO MONEY OR JOB. SO THAT'S HOW THE STUDY IS DESIGNED TO WORK.

WHETHER IT WILL CONTINUE TO WORK THAT WAY AFTER IF THE COURT WERE TO DETERMINE AFTER THE STUDY, IT'S IMPORTANT TO HAVE ATTORNEYS AVAILABLE IN MAGISTRATION WHETHER THOSE PEOPLE WOULD BE AVAILABLE JUST INDIVIDUAL PEOPLE OR EVERYBODY THAT WOULD BE DECISIONS WE HAVE TO MAKE LATER

ON, BUT RIGHT NOW THAT'S HOW IT'S WORKING. >> OK.

COMMISSIONER LAST ONE. THANK YOU, WES FOR THE WONDERFUL EXPLANATION AND THE ARTICULATION OF ALL THE DETAILS. WE REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR TIME AND YOUR EFFORT.

>> THANK YOU. >> PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. >> COMMISSIONER JONES.

>> YES. >> COMMISSIONER SHELL. >> YES.

>> COMMISSIONER INGALSBE. >> YES. >> COMMISSIONER SMITH.

>> YES. >> JUDGE BECERRA. >> YES.

[25. Discussion of issues related to the Hays County Census program including updates from Jessica Mejia. BECERRA]

PLEASE OPEN 25. DISCUSSION --. >> DO YOU NEED A MINUTE TO SET UP? Y. DO YOU NEED TIME TO SET UP?

NO OK. >> DISCUSSION OF ISSUES RELATED TO THE HAYS COUNTY CREN US

PROGRAM INCLUDING UPDATES FROM JESSICA MEJIA. >> OK, BATTER UP.

-- COUNTY CENSUS. NOT REALLY. THEY ARE GETTING SET UP FOR YOU RIGHT NOW. WE CAN HEAR YOU BUT IT'S NOT BEING BROADCASTED.

RIGHT AFTER THAT WE'LL GO TO 10 AND WE'LL TAKE A SHORT RECESS. WHILE THEY SET UP, A LITTLE DETAIL. DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO CONTRIBUTE? MS. COLLINS? FULL STATE YOUR NAME -- IF YOU WILL STATE YOUR NAME AND TITLE.

>> ANITA COLLINS OFFICER OF HAYS COUNTY JUDGE. I JUST WANT TO GIVE SOME NUMBERS REAL QUICK AND SAY THAT NUMBER ONE IS STILL MOUNTAIN CITY. BEAR CREEK IS NUMBER TWO AT 77% OF SELF-RESPONSE. BUTTE A-- BUTA MOVED UP IN THE RANKING OVER THE CITY OF HAZE.

HAZE IS AT 71.0%. >> TELL US WHERE THE COUNTY SEAT IS.

>> THE COUNTY SEAT IS SAN MARCOS AND IT'S AT 42.6%. SO WE REALLY NEED TO FOCUS?

>> CAN YOU REPEAT THE TOP COUPLE. >> YEAH, THE TOP -- [LAUGHING] PRECINCT MOUNTAIN CITY. FAIR CREEK.

IS THAT YOUR PRECINCT. NUMBER THREE IS BUDA. NUMBER FOUR IS THE CITY OF HAYS.

AND NUMBER FIVE IS KYLE. SO GOOD FOR YOU. DRIPPING SPRINGS IS AT 59.9%.

WOOD CREEK IS 51.1%. BOTH OF THOSE ARE ABOVE THE STATE AVERAGE, SO THAT'S GOOD.

THEN WE HAVE WOMEN BERLE AT 55% AND -- WIMBERLEY AT 55% AND NEEDER WALL AT 51%.

>> THE 12 PEOPLE THAT LIVE THERE SHOULD JUST GET COUNTED. JUST KIDDING.

AND WE HAVE JESSICA MEJIA ON THE LINE WHO IS CHARGED WITH HELPING US GET THOSE NUMBERS UP IN THOSE

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OK. >> OK. >> WE NEED TO PUT THE MICROPHONE

TO THE SPEAKER. >> CAN Y'ALL HEAR ME? >> YOU CAN POINT THAT LITTLE MICROPHONE TO THE SPEAKER, I THINK WE'LL BE OK. IS IT COMING OUT OF THERE?

NOW WE HEAR YOU. >> YES, MA'AM. IS THAT BETTER?

>> GOT IT. ALL YOURS AND THANK YOU, ANITA, FOR FILLING IN THAT TIME WITH

ENTERTAINMENT. >> PERFECT. JESSICA MEJIA HAYS COUNTY

COORDINATOR. CAN Y'ALL HEAR ME OK? >> PERFECTLY.

>> AWESOME. WELL FIRST OF ALL GOOD MORNING. I HOPE EVERYTHING IS WELL ON Y'ALL'S END AND THANK YOU ALL FOR LETTING ME GIVE THIS BRIEF REPORT.

I HOPE Y'ALL ARE ALL HEALTHY AND WITH YOUR LOVED ONES. SECOND, I'M JUST GOING TO READ OFF THIS REPORT THAT WE SEND MONTHLY TO SEND TO UNITED WAY. THIS IS BASICALLY WHAT WE HAVE BEEN DOING SINCE JUNE 8TH. I GOT BACK ONBOARD JUNE 11TH, BUT I'M GOING TO READ THROUGH EVERYTHING THAT'S BEEN GOING ON SINCE. WE HAD BILINGUAL YARD SIGN DISTRIBUTIONS ABOUT 255 PEOPLE WERE REACHED THROUGHOUT HAYS COUNTY.

WE HAD CENSUS BANNERS NUMEROUS CENSUS BANNERS AND THOSE ARE ALL OVER DRIPPING SPRINGS AND DRIFTWOOD. THIS IS A PROJECT WE HAVE BEEN WORKING ON SINCE IT WAS REQUESTED IN MAY. SO THAT HAS GONE OUT. HAS EVERYONE HAD A CHANCE TO SEE

THOSE BANNERS AT ALL? I HAVEN'T. >> I PUT THEM UP.

I SAW THEM. >> OH, PERFECT. >> WE ALSO HAVES TRIB USES POSTCARDS AND THERE WAS ABOUT 1200 REACHED AND THAT WAS AT CENTRAL TEXAS IN KYLE -- DISTRIBUTIONS. WE ALSO HAVE AT THE HAYS COUNTY BANK IN SAN MARCOS SOME MORE AT FOOD BANK OFFICES AND THERE WAS ABOUT 500 PEOPLE REACHED WITH THAT.

WE HAD SIGNAGE AND TABLING, ABOUT A THOUSAND PEOPLE WERE REACHED AND THAT WAS AT THE HAYS COUNTY COVID TESTING SITES. AND WE HAVE A CURRENT WRITING PROJECT RIGHT NOW AND THAT'S WHAT INDIGENOUS INSTITUTE. IF Y'ALL COULD HELP ME WITH THAT THIS IS A COUNTY WIDE WRITING CONTEST FOR YOUTH. SO SOMEONE WELCOMED. IT'S GOING TO BE ON THE ININDIGENOUSS CULTURE'S WEBSITE. AND IT'S -- INDIGENOUS CULTURE'S WEBSITE.

IT'S VERY BASICALLY SIMILAR IT OUR ART CONTEST WHERE OUR CHILDREN ARE EDUCATING OUR PARENTS, BUT THIS TIME IT'S OPEN YOUTHWISE SO ANYONE UNDER 18. AND IT'S COUNTY WIDE AND ALL THEY HAVE TO DO IS GO TO THE WEBSITE INDIG INDIGENOUSCULTURESINSTITUTE AND THE RULES AND GUIDELINES ON THERE AND YOU CAN STILLY SUBMIT YOUR -- ACTUALLY SUBMIT YOUR WRITTEN ESSAY ON THEIR WEBSITE. THAT IS GOING TO MAKE IT A WHOLE LOT EASIER THAN SENDING IT IN, E-MAILING IT, TEXTING IT, WHAT NOT. WE HAVE ONE PLACE WHERE MARIA HAS BEEN SO GENEROUS TO HAVE THEM ADD THAT TO THEIR WEBSITE. THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE GOING ON AND THAT WILL BE GOING ON UNTIL JULY THE 24TH. AND WE ALSO HAVE THE STAFF VIDEO THAT BELIEVE IS ALREADY OUT, ANITA, COULD PROBABLY LET ME KNOW.

SHE HELPED DIRECT THAT -- DIRECT THAT PROJECT. WE HAVE A COMMERCIAL PSA.

SO THAT'S REALLY EXCITING. THAT'S IN ENGLISH AND SPANISH. AND FINALLY WE HAVE MORE SIGNAGE AND GIVEAWAYS AND POSTCARDS. I WANT TO GIVE CREDIT TO I WAS NAMING THESE OFF SO Y'ALL COULD HEAR IT FIRST, BUT ANITA ALEX VILLALOBOS, ELIZABETH GARCIA, INDIGENOUS CULTURES INSTITUTE.

JUDGE, I KNOW THAT MS. BECERRA -- MRS. BECERRA WAS ALSO ABLE TO BE IN THAT PSA AS WELL.

FOR THOSE THAT DON'T KNOW I'M IN QUARANTINE RIGHT NOW. I'M WORKING BUT I'M JUST NOT ABLE TO BE OR I WAS NOT ABLE TO BE AROUND PEOPLE FOR THAT PROJECT.

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LIKE I'D LIKE TO ZHAEND TIME FOR ANYONE. >> THANK YOU -- EXTEND THAT TIME

FOR ANYONE. >> THANK YOU. DON'T TAKE MY JOB.

ANITA? >> YES, I WANTED TO ADD A COUPLE MORE PEOPLED IN THE OUTREACH OF THAT AND THAT WOULD BE MARILYN MENNAR OF LEAGUE OF WOMEN VOTERS AND MARGIE CROSBY WHO IS ON THE

INTERFACE -- INTERFAITH TASK FORCE. >> BEAUTIFUL.

THANK YOU. >> AND OK. ANY QUESTIONS.

>> SURE. COMMISSIONER INGALSBE, ANY QUESTIONS SO FAR?

>> NO. I JUST APPRECIATE JESSICA BEING ABLE TO BE WITH US AND GIVE THAT REPORT. I APPRECIATE ALL THE WORK THAT'S BEING DONE, AND WE CERTAINLY NEED TO WORK IN SAN MARCOS. IT'S UNFORTUNATE WE'RE BELOW THE 50% AS EVERYBODY ELSE IS THERE OR ABOVE. ANYTHING WE CAN DO TO HELP. BUT WITH THAT, HOW'S THE COORDINATION HOW IS THE COORD NATION WITH MARGIE RODRIGUEZ GOING?

-- COORDINATION. >> I MET WITH MARGIE. WAS THAT A QUESTION FOR ME AND

ANITA BOTH? >> YOU CAN ANSWER JESSICA IF YOU HAVE THAT ANSWER.

>> YES, MA'AM. I MET WITH HER. WE HAD A ZOOM MEETING.

THE COORDINATION IS GOING WELL. WE'RE STILL TRYING TO CLARIFY SOME THINGS AS FAR AS HOW WE'LL BE WORKING TOGETHER. I HAVE ABOUT 17 -- A LIST OF 17 DIFFERENT THINGS THAT I BELIEVE I DID. I SENT TO -- I SENT TO Y'ALL A PROJECT WE'RE ALREADY WORKING ON BUT SHE HAS SOME IDEAS AS WELL. I DO FEEL THAT WITH THE CENSUS EXTENDING TO OCTOBER 31ST THAT WE CAN COLLABORATE AND IT CAN BE EVEN MORE EFFECTIVE WITH IDEAS IN MIND.

VERY WONDERFUL LADY, I'D LIKE TO ADD FROM SAN MARCOS. I HAD NEVER PERSONALLY MET HER.

I KNOW WE ONLY MET ON THE SHE WAS EXTREMELY HELPFUL AND SUPPORT WIF MY ONGOING PROJECTS, WITH MY CURRENT PROJECTS AND WITH MUTUAL IDEAS I HAVE WHENEVER SCHOOL STARTS UP.

AGAIN WITH MY BACKGROUND WITH WORKING WITH CHILDREN AND FAMILIES FOR 18 YEARS, I REALLY FEEL THAT THIS IS GOING TO -- I KNOW OUR NUMBERS ARE LOW IN SAN MARCOS RIGHT NOW BY HELPING THEM REACH OUT TO THEIR PARENTS WITH PROJECTS LIKE THIS, NOT ONLY DOES IT HELP REPEATEDLY BEING CREATIVE WHILE AT HOME AND DURING A PANDEMIC BUT IT'S JUST A COLLABORATIVE WAY FOR ALL THE FAMILIES TO HAVE SOMETHING TO DO. AND MARGIE IS A BIG FAMILY PERSON. I'M LEARNING AND SHE REALLY DOES SUPPORT MY EFFORTS AND THE CREATIVE END OF TRYING DO THIS WHILE DURING THE PANDEMIC. SO YES IT'S GOING WELL.

THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU FOR THE UPDATE. >> YES, SIR.

>> THANKS, JESSICA. I APPRECIATE THE UPDATE. I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO TRY TO REACH OUT TO OUR OFFICES TO TRY TO SET UP SOMETHING. I KNOW THAT YOU HAVE BEEN BUSY EVEN IF IT'S A ZOOM CALL. WE DO A FEW. I KNOW I DID SEVEN YESTERDAY.

I WOULD LOVE TO SIT DOWN AND ACTUALLY TALK TO YOU ABOUT THE OUTREACH IN MY PRECINCT.

AND WHAT YOU HAVE PLANNED OR WHAT YOU MAY HAVE IN THE CUE. I STILL HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT THE AT-RISK POPULATIONS IN MY PRECINCT. I'D STILL LIKE IT TALK ABOUT HOW WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO ACCESS SOME OF THOSE COMMUNITIES TO HELP WITH OUR COUNTS.

AND THEN THE OTHER QUESTION I HAVE IS ON THE PSA THAT WAS DONE LAST WEEK, ALEX, DID YOU APPEAR IN THAT? I HAVE THE SEEN IT. AL DEX NOT APPEAR IN THE PSA LAST WEEK. -- ALEX DID NOT APPEAR IN THE PSA LAST WEEK.

>> NO. WE DID A VIDEO. WE DID DO A VIDEO.

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THAT WAS FOR THE CENSUS BUREAU. >> OK. MY QUESTION IS WE AS A COURT AGREED THAT NOBODY WHO WAS GOING TO BE ON THE BALLOT WOULD APPEAR THIS ANYTHING.

I EVEN REFERENCED MY COLLEAGUE ON THE COURT AND COMMISSIONER SHELL AND MR. VILLALOBOS.

WE HAD A VERY ADAMANT CONVERSATION IN COURT. YOU JUDGE SAID THAT WAS A GREAT IDEA. YOU REMEMBER THAT? SO MY QUESTION IS WHY WOULD THAT NOT WHY WOULD WE NOT ADHERE TO THAT. IF THAT'S WHAT WE AGREED TO.

>> WHAT I DO KNOW TOOK PLACE. AND WE CAN EXPAND AFTER YOU SEE THIS OR MAYBE THERE'S MISINFORMATION. I DON'T KNOW I REALLY DON'T KNOW.

>> I KNOW FROM THE CENSUS BUREAU THERE WOULD BE A PSA DONE WITH ALEX.

>> SO SHE'LL SHOW WHAT YOU WAS DONE. THAT WAY WE COULD THAT BE WOULD

GREAT. ARE YOU READY TO SHOW THAT? >> YEAH.

>> THAT WOULD BE PERFECT. BEFORE YOU SHOW THAT, MAY I SEE SOMETHING PLEASE?

>> YES, MA'AM. >> OK, THANK YOU. FORGIVE ME.

I CAN'T SEE WHO IS SPEAKING AND NOW THAT I RECOGNIZE IT'S YOU, MR. SMITH.

I'M STILL LEARNING Y'ALL'S VOICES. I KNOW Y'ALL'S FACES NOW.

I WANTED TO SAY THERE HAS BEEN SOME OUTREACH WITH IT'S ON ORGANIZATION CALLED -- JESUS.

EVEN IT'S BASED IN WIMBERLEY THEY DO FOOD DRIVES FOR THE UNDERREPRESENTED COMMUNITIES.

AND WE HAVE BEEN DISTRIBUTING, WE AS IN I HAVE A CONNECTION THERE THAT I'VE BEEN DISTRIBUTING CHILDREN'S STORIES BOOKS IN ENGLISH AND SPANISH TO THEM AND THERE ARE PEOPLE FROM DRIFTWOOD, DRIPPING SPRINGS AND ALSO WIMBERLEY THAT ARE LETTING THE FOOD BANK THAT, THE PEOPLE KNOW THAT THAT ARE AREAS THEY ARE PERFECT. SO THAT'S JUST ONE ASPECT, BUT I'LL DEFINITELY HAVE IT WRITTEN DOWN. I'LL SET UP A ZOOM MEETING WITH

YOU AND WE'LL DISCUSS THAT FURTHER,P WITH YOU.ED TO FOLLOW >> THANK YOU, MA'AM.

LET'S PLAY THE VIDEO. >> ENGLISH OR SPANISH VERSION? >> YES, MA'AM.

WHICHEVER. >> WE DID TWO PSAS. ONE IS IN ENGLISH.

ONE IN SPANISH. SAME PSA. >> SO TO GET SOMEONE IN SPAN, SPANISH SPEAKING ON SUCH A SHORT NOTICE BECAUSE MS. MEJIA WASN'T AVAILABLE, SHE WAS ORIGINALLY SLATED TO STAND NEXT TO ME FOR THE PSA VIDEO. I ASKED MONICA AND MONICA SAID SURE I'LL DO IT, SO THAT'S WHY SHE ENDED UP THERE AT THE VERY LAST MINUTE.

READY. >> ARTISTS COUNT. >> STUDENTS COUNT.

>> KIDS COUNT. >> UNICYCLISTS COUNT >> FIREFIGHTERS COUNT.

>> NURSES COUNT. >> EVERYONE COUNTS. I'M THE HAYS COUNTY JUDGE RUBEN

BECERRA. >> I'M MONICA BECERRA. >> MORE THAN EVER THE FUTURE OF OUR COUNTY DEPENDS ON YOU. ACCESS TO BILLIONS OF DOLLARS OF FEDERAL FUNDING FOR EMERGENCY SERVICES, HEADSTART PRO GRARJSS HOUSING ASSISTANCE AND MORE DEPEND ON YOU BEING COUNTED IN

THE 2020 CENSUS. >> THE CENSUS -- PROGRAMS. >> ONCE EVERY TEN YEARS.

>> AND THERE ARE ONLY NINE QUESTIONS. >> AND IT WILL ONLY TAKE ABOUT

EIGHT MINUTES TO COMPLETE. >> COMPLETE CENSUS TODAY BECAUSE --

>> EVERYONE COUNTS! >> PLEASE VISIT 2020 CENSUS.GOV OR CALL 84-330-2020 TO COMPLETE

YOUR CENSUS TODAY. >> DO YOU HAVE THE SPANISH ONE THERE? PLAY THAT ONE REAL QUICK AND WE'LL TAKE A SHORT RECESS AND WE'LL GO TO 10.

>> ARTISTS COUNT. >> STUDENTS COUNT! >> ARTISTS COUNT!

>> STUDENTS COUNT. >> KIDS COUNT! >> UNICYCLISTS COUNT!

>> FIREFIGHTERS COUNT! >> NURSES COUNT! ♪

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>> I HAVE A QUESTION. ED YOU WERE GOING TO GO BACK TO IT.

>> YES, SIR. >> I ACTUALLY HAVE A NOTICE FROM THE CENSUS BUREAU HERE THAT MR. VILLE HAD ALOBOS APPEARED IN A -- VILLALOBOS APPEARED IN AN AD OR VIDEO WITH YOU AFTER WE

SPECIFICALLY ASKED THAT WE NOT DO THAT. >> HERE'S WHAT THEY DID.

SO CAN YOU EXPLAIN WHAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO? >> SURE.

>> YOU GOT AN E-MAIL BUT HERE'S WHAT WAS PRODUCED SO THAT'S MY HOPE TO RESOLVE IT.

>> OK. SO I HAVE NOT SEEN THIS VIDEO. THE VIDEO I SAW WAS ACTUALLY SHOT ON THE COURTHOUSE STEPS. I SAW YOU AND ALEX IN A VIDEO, VERY SPECIFICALLY WHICH WAS

DISTRIBUTED. >> OH, OK. >> AND SO MY QUESTION IS, WE WERE VERY CLEAR AS A COURT THAT NONE OF US WHO ARE ON THE BALLOT THAT NO ONE ELSE WHO WAS ON THE BALLOT WOULD BE A PART OF THE COUNTY PROMOTING ANYONE OUTSIDE OF THAT AND WE WOULD THE PROMOTE ANY MEMBER OF THE COURT, ANY ELECTED OFFICIAL, ANY CANDIDATE FOR OFFICE, AND YOU ACTUALLY AGREED THAT THAT WAS A GOOD WAY TO GO ABOUT IT. SO MY QUESTION IS WHY AFTER WE HAD THAT AGREEMENT AND AFTER WE DISCUSSED IT IN COURT, WHY WOULD THAT NOT BE THE CASE?

>> THAT WAS A PERSONAL POST. HOW DID IT GO INTO YOUR E-MAIL? I DON'T KNOW BUT THAT WAS A

PERSONAL POST. THAT WAS NOT A -- >> CENSUS BUREAU SHARES THINGS

-- >> MAY SHARE THINGS BUT OUR EFFORTS WERE COURT-FUNDED.

>> WHEN YOU USE OUR OFFICIAL -- WHEN YOU USE AN OFFICIAL TITLE AND YOU HAVE A GOVERNMENT AGENCY SEND IT OUT, I DON'T BELIEVE THAT'S VERY PERSONAL. WHEN YOU SAY COUNTY JUDGE RUBEN BECERRA AND COUNTY CHIEF OF STAFF ALEX VILLALOBOS WILL TAKE A VIDEO ON FRIDAY JUNE 26TH PROMOTING THIS, GOES OUT THROUGH THE U.S. CENSUS, THAT'S NOT PERSONAL, JUDGE.

THAT'S PART OF WHAT OUR BUSINESS IS HERE AND THAT IS WHAT WE DO AS A COUNTY.

THAT'S NOT PERSONAL. >> OK. SO THAT'S WHAT I DID AND WE CAN TALK ABOUT IT FURTHER, BUT I'M HOPING IF YOU GUYS HAVE NO OTHER QUESTIONS WE COULD TAKE A SHORT

RECESS. >> I WOULD RATHER FIN THEIR. >> WHAT IS IT YOU WANT TO ASK?

-- FINISH THIS. >> I'VE ANSWERED YOUR QUESTION. THAT'S WHY I'M WONDERING IF YOU

HAVE A NEW QUESTION. >> NO, YOU DIDN'T. I'M ASKING WHY IF WE HAD THIS YOU WERE A MEMBER OF THE COURT WHO WAS INVOLVED IN THIS. WE HAD A AGREEMENT AS A COURT WE WOULD NOT PROMOTE ANY INDIVIDUAL CANDIDATE WHETHER THEY BE ON THIS COURT OR ANY ELECTED OFFICIAL ON THE COUNTY OR CANDIDATE FOR OFFICE USING OUR ACCOUNT IN OFFICIAL WAY THROUGH THESE VIDEOS OR THROUGH PSA OR ANYTHING ELSE. MY QUESTION IS WHY WOULD YOU

ALLOW THAT TO HAPPEN? >> BECAUSE MY BELIEF IN THAT EFFORT, IN THAT COMMUNICATION WAS TIED TO THIS MONEY WAS YOU WERE JUST SHOWN WHAT THIS MONEY WAS TIED TO.

>> RIGHT. >> LET'S CLARIFY THAT. >> SO THAT'S WHAT I FEEL THAT

COMMUNICATION WAS FOR AND HAS ACCOMPLISHED. >> WELL THEN FROM THIS POINT FORWARD, LET'S CLARIFY. I MOVE THAT NO ONE ELECTED OFFICIAL WITHIN HAYS COUNTY OR CANDIDATE FROM HAYS COUNTY WILL BE USED TO PROMOTE IN ANY VIDEO OR ANY -- I DON'T KNOW HOW TO -- I DON'T WANT IT PAY FOR POLITICAL ADVERTISING -- TO PAY FOR POLITICAL ADVERTISING WITH

OUR MONEY. >> I'M NOT TRYING TO RUSH YOU IN ANY WAY.

I PROMISE. WHY DON'T YOU DRAFT SOME IDEAS TO WHATEVER YOU WANT TO DO AND NAIL DOWN IN EVERY CORNER YOU WANT SO WE CAN HAVE A FULL UNDERSTANDING OF YOUR INTENT.

I PROMISE YOU. I'M NOT TRYING TO SLOW YOU DOWN OR RUSH YOU EXCEPT FOR SEEKIFICATION OF YOUR EFFORTS BUT THE COMMUNICATION WE HAD AS A COURT WAS ABOUT THIS MONEY BEING USED TO PROMOTE CANDIDATES AND IT WAS NOT, AS YOU SAW IN THE SAMPLE, NO MONEY WAS USED TO PROMOTE CANDIDATES. SO YOU HAVE ANOTHER IDEA AND I'M TOTALLY INTERESTED IN LISTENING TO IT ALL, BUT WE CAN'T DRAFT AN AGENDA ITEM ON THE MOMENT ON A PRESENTATION.

AND I'D LOVE FOR YOU TO BRING SOMETHING. >> GO TO RECESS AND LEAV

>> WE ARE BACK FROM A VERY QUICK RECESS. SORRY WE NEEDED A RESTROOM BREAK. NO OTHER CHOICE. BUT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT OUR

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UNITED WAY MONEY OR COUNTY DOLLARS SHOULDN'T BE USED TO PROMOTE PEOPLE ON THE BALLOT AND WE ALL AGREED. SO NOW COMMISSIONER SMITH IS ASKING ABOUT A VIDEO THAT NOW I UNDERSTAND WHAT HE'S REFERRING TO, AND AFTER SHOWING THE PRODUCTION THAT YOU WERE PART OF OF THE UNITED WAY OF THE VIDEO THAT WAS MADE THAT NO CANDIDATE WAS IN, NOW I UNDERSTAND WHEN HE REFERENCED ME. CAN YOU SPEAK ON THAT A LITTLE BIT?

>> SURE. THERE IS A BIG CENSUS PUSH FOR THAT ONE WEEK I THINK IT WAS THE LAST WEEK IN JUNE. AND THEY WANTED EVERYBODY AND ANYBODY TO JUST MAKE A VIDEO TO PROMOTE THE CENSUS. IT WAS CALLED A ROAD SHOW I THINK AND SAID THEY WERE COMING THROUGH THE CENTRAL TEXAS AREA. THEY SAID JUST DO A VIDEO. I SAID OK.

WHO IS GOING TO BE IN YOUR VIDEO. I SAID OUR OFFICE WILL BE.

THEY SAID OK GREAT. SO THAT'S WHAT WE DID. WE PUTS A VIDEO OUT ON FACEBOOK.

AND IT'S SOCIAL MEDIA. I GUESS THEY SHARED IT. I DON'T KNOW IF THEY SHARED IT

OR NOT. THAT'S ABOUT IT. >> AND WAS ANY TO STAY TRUE TO THE SPIRITS OF WHAT I BELIEVE, THE SPIRIT OF OUR COMMISSIONERS COURT SENTIMENT, DO YOU BELIEVE

THAT WAS IN LINE WITH THAT EFFORT? >> ABSOLUTELY BECAUSE THE DISCUSSION WAS ABOUT THIS PSA AND YOU DIDN'T WANT ANYBODY WHO WAS RUN FOR OFFICE IN THAT PSA, SO I MADE SURE TO CUT ALEX OUT, BECAUSE HE WAS GOING TO BE IN ONE OF THEM.

AND I ALSO REMEMBER ENCOURAGING EVERYBODY WHETHER YOU'RE RUNNING FOR OFFICE OR NOT TO MAKE YOUR OWN VIDEO TO PROMOTE THE CENSUS. THAT'S WHAT'S IMPORTANT HERE IS WE DO USE WHATEVER STATUS WE

HAVE OR YOU HAVE TO PROMOTE THE CENSUS. >> I COULD NOT AGREE WITH YOU MORE. THAT'S THE REASON WE ENCOURAGED EACH OF US TO DO INDIVIDUAL CENSUS VIDEOS. I'M ACTUAL ANY THE PROCESS OF DOING MINE AS WITH.

I KNOW THE JUDGE HAS DONE ONE MR. VILLALOBOS DONE INDIVIDUAL ONE AND I THINK THAT'S FINE BUT THE DAY WE USE TAXPAYER MONEY TO PUT ONE OF US OR ANY -- ANYONE ELSE WHO IS A CANDIDATE ON THE BALLOT I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT AND THESE ARE U.S. CENSUS FUNDS IN PAIR MONEY.

>> SURE. WE'RE NOT USING ANY MONEY. >> SO THE U.S. CENSUS DID NOT

PRODUCE THIS? >> THEY DID NOT. >> THE E-MAIL I GOT FROM THE

U.S. CENSUS THAT PROMOTED THIS. >> THEY ASKED ME FOR INFORMATION, WHAT ARE WE GOING

TO DO AND I TOLD THEM WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO. >> I UNDERSTAND A.

>> I FILMED IT MYSELF. >> SHE HAS NO IDEA WHAT THE U.S. CENSUS DOES BUT EVERYONE IN THE COMMUNITY IN THE REGION WAS ENCOURAGED TO MAKE A VIDEO ON THEIR OWN DIME THROUGH THEIR OWN EFFORTS THROUGH THEIR OWN ENERGY AND WHAT THE CENSUS PICKED UP ON SHE HAD NO CONTROL OVER.

>> MY QUESTION IS THIS, CAN I CLARIFY ANY MORE FROM THIS POINT FORWARD WHETHER IT BE THE U.S.

CENSUS, WHETHER IT BE ANYTHING ELSE IF WE WANT TO DO SOMETHING INDIVIDUAL YI IF A CANDIDATE WANTS TO DO SOMETHING INDIVIDUALLY THAT'S FINE BUT IF WE USE TAXPAYER DOLLARS TO

PROMOTE ANY CANDIDATE THERE'S GOING TO PROBLEM WITH THAT. >> SURE.

>> OK. I JUST WANT IT CLEAR. >> SO CLEAR AND THE GOOD PART IS

I AGREE WITH YOU BUT WHAT YOU'RE DESCRIBING HAS NOT HAPPENED. >> U.S. CENSUS BUREAU PROMOTE

THIS VIDEO. >> IF THEY DID. >> IF AN E-MAIL WAS GENERATED.

IF AN E-MAIL WAS GENERATED BY ANOTHER BODY OUTSIDE OF OUR CONTROL HIGHLIGHTING THINGS THAT WE HAVE DONE, THAT'S NOT IN OUR SPACE. WE DON'T CONTROL ANYTHING THAT ANYONE ELSE DOES. BUT I WILL TELL YOU THAT WE AGREE 100%.

THERE'S NO ARGUMENT THAT OUR TAX DOLLARS SHOULDN'T BE USED TO PROMOTE CANDIDATES.

WE HAVEN'T DONE THAT AND WE WILL NOT DO THAT. >> THIS ITEM ISN'T ACTIONABLE TODAY. IT'S AN UPDATE BUT I WILL BE BRINGING SOMETHING BACK TO

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IT WILL BE RELEVANT TO ANY AND ALL POLITICAL ACTIVITY I WOULD SHARE THAT WITH MY COLLEAGUES.

I DO AGREE IT SHOULDN'T HAVE HAPPENED. I THINK WE WERE PRETTY CLEAR.

WE CAN AGREE TO DISAGREE ON WHETHER OR NOT IT SHOULD OR SHOULDN'T HAVE HAPPENED.

I WOULD HOPE UNTIL WE DO BRING SOMETHING BACK IN THE NEXT WEEK OR TWO WEEKS WE CAN HAVE SOME TYPE OF AGREEMENT NOTHING LIKE THIS WILL HAPPEN UNTIL WE HAVE SOME TYPE OF POLICY ON THE

VIDEO. >> OK. >> SO THE MESSAGE IS JUST TO CLARIFY, THE MESSAGE IS FOR YOU ANITA WHO WORKS ON THIS FRONT, TAXPAYER DOLLARS ARE NOT TO BE USED AS WE'VE AGREED UPON IN THE PAST AND WE WILL CONTINUE TO DO TAXPAYER DOLLARS ARE NOT TO BE USED TO PROMOTE CENSUS MATERIAL. THIS IS YOUR LANE. WITH CANDIDATES THE BALLOT.

>> RIGHT. >> CONTINUE THAT PART. YOU HAVE NO CONTROL ABOUT WHAT ELECTED OFFICIALS DO OR OTHER PEOPLE IN OTHER SPACES DO WITH THEIR OWN STUFF, BUT IN REFERENCE TO TAXPAYER DOLLARS, MAKE SURE THAT YOU DON'T PULL FOR THAT.

OR GRANT DOLLARS BECAUSE THAT'S ULTIMATELY TAXPAYER DOLLARS. OR GRANT DOLLARS TO MAKE SURE YOU DON'T USE GRANT MONEY OR TAX MONEY TO PROMOTE ANYBODY ON THE BALLOT.

>> CORRECT. >> JUDGE, TO THE POINT THAT -- I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY HERE WHENEVER, ANITA, YOU SAY I VIDEOED IT. IT DIDN'T COST ME ANYTHING.

DID YOU DO THAT ON YOUR OWN PERSONAL TIME IN THE MIDDLE OF THE DAY OR DID YOU DO IT ON COUNTY TIME? DID AL DOSM THAT ON PERSONAL TIME IN THE MIDDLE OF THE DAY OR

COUNTY TIME? WHAT I'M SAYING THAT -- >> PERSONAL TIME.

>> THAT'S WHAT I'M ASKING. AS WE LOOK AT THESE WE HAVE TO BE COGNIZANT THAT EVERYTHING WE DO IS SOMEHOW UNLESS WE ARE ON OUR PERSONAL TIME, IN OUR SPACE, OFF THE CLOCK, IT IS -- WE BELONG TO THE TAXPAYERS WHEN WE'RE ON THE CLOCK AND OUR EQUIPMENT DOES, YOU KNOW.

EVERYTHING DOES. JUST BE COGNIZANT IF YOU WILL. >> SO LUCKY.

YES. SO LUCKY THAT'S EXACTLY HOW IT HAPPENED WAS EVERYTHING WAS THAT WAY? JUST TO BE SAFE ANYTHING YOU'RE INVOLVED WITH -- [INAUDIBLE]

>> EXACTLY. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. MS. MEJIA AND THANK YOU VERY MUCH MS. COLLINS. DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE TO ADD?

>> I JUST WANT TO LET EVERYONE KNOW I WILL SHARE THAT PSA WITH EACH ONE OF YOU AND I ENCOURAGE

YOU TO SHARE IT ON YOUR SOCIAL MEDIA PLATFORMS. >> THANK YOU.

>> JUDGE, I WAS JUST GOING TO ADD ONE THING. I THINK THE CONCERN -- THE ONLY CONCERN I HAVE ON THAT ISSUE WAS IT WAS THIS PRESS RELEASE IN THE U.S. CENSUS BUREAU.

I THINK THAT'S WHAT'S CAUSING THIS ISSUE, SO IF THEY WERE TO REQUEST, IF THEY ARE GOING TO SAY HEY SEND US A VIDEO SO WE CAN PROMOTE IT THERE'S NOTHING WRONG THEM DOING THAT.

I THINK THAT'S WHERE THE ISSUE IS AND THEY PROMOTED THAT VIDEO. I THINK JUDGMENT WOULD HAVE BEEN TO SAY I'M NOT GOING TO PARTICIPATE IN THAT, NOT THAT YOU CAN'T DO IT ON YOUR OWN.

YOU'RE NOT THE ONES WE'RE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT CANDIDATES ON THE BALLOT.

I THINK THAT'S WHERE THIS ONE IS DIFFERENT BECAUSE THEY CONTACTED THE COUNTY OBVIOUSLY AND SAID, SEND US VIDEOS AND THEN THEY PROMOTED IT. I THINK THAT'S WHERE THIS IS DIFFERENT THAN SOMEONE ON YOUR OWN TIME, SHOOTING A VIDEO ON FACEBOOK WHICH IS PERFECTLY FINE AND LIKE ANITA SAID SHOULD BE ENCOURAGED AND I'M GLAD SHE'S DOING THAT.

>> RIGHT ON. THANK YOU. >> WE DIDN'T SHARE THE VIDEO WITH THEM AT ALL. WE JUST POSTED IT ON SOCIAL MEDIA.

WHETHER OR NOT THEY SHARED IT I DON'T KNOW. >> THEM PROMOTING IT THE PRESS RELEASE THEY SENT OUT WAS PROMOTING THAT PROMOTING THAT ACTIVITY.

I THINK THAT'S THE ISSUE. >> OK. THANK YOU.

[10. Authorize payment to Data Spec, Inc. for the Veteran's Administration Office in which no purchase order was issued as required per County Purchasing Policy.]

>> THE. >> -- THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> WILL YOU PLEASE OPEN AGENDA

ITEM NUMBER TEN. >> NUMBER TEN AUTHORIZE PAYMENT TO DATA SPEC INC. FOR THE VETERANS ADMINISTRATION OFFICE IN WHICH NO PERMISSIONISH AUTO YOU WAS REQUIRED FROM COUNTY

PURCHASING POLICY. >> MOTION AND A SECOND. WILL YOU PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME

AND TITLE FOR THE RECORD AT THE PODIUM. >> YES, SIR, JUDGE COMMISSIONERS MY NAME IS JUDO OWE VETERAN SERVICE OFFICER WITH HAYS COUNTY.

THIS WAS AN OVERNIGHT ON MY PART AN AGREEMENT WE HAD WITH DATA SPEC.

IT'S A SOFTWARE THAT ALLOWS US TO INTERFACE WITH THE VETERANS COMMISSION AND ALLOWS US TO SUBMIT CLAIMS DIGITALLY AND WORK REMOTELY. I DID NOT NOTICE THAT THAT'S RENEWAL CAME UP BEFORE I ORDERED A PURCHASE ORDER, SO THAT WAS AN OVERSIGHT IN MY PART.

AND THEN WHILE I HAVE Y'ALL HERE I WANTED TO INTRODUCE A NEW MEMBER OF OUR.

THIS IS WESLEY MATTHEWS. HE'LL BE ADMINISTERING OUR EMERGENCY GRANT THAT WE GOT RECENTLY TO HELP WITH PEOPLE'S UTILITIES AND RENTAL ASSISTANCE AND WESLEY MATTHEWS IS RETIRED FIRST SERGEANT FROM THE AIR FORCE, GOT HIS MASTERS IN SOCIAL WORK HERE AT TEXAS STATE, AND

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>> WONDERFUL. WOULD YOU LIKE TO SAY HELLO AT THE PODIUM?

NAME AND TITLE FOR THE RECORD. >> YES, JUDGE. I AM WESLEY MATTHEWS AND I'M GOING TO BE LIKE A VETERANS SERVICES COUNSELOR, SO BASICALLY WE'RE LOOKING AT THE WHOLE PERSON CONCEPT SO IF THEY COME IN FOR BENEFITS AND THEY ARE IN TROUBLE WE CAN HELP THEM OUT WITH EMERGENCY IMMEDIATE NEEDS. SO ONCE I GOT THEIR RENT TAKEN CARE OF, THEN THEY ARE WILLING TO WORK WITH ME AND SAY WHAT OTHER THINGS ARE GOING AN? HOW'S YOUR MENTAL HEALTH?

HOW'S YOUR PHYSICAL HEALTH WE CAN START WORKING THOSE ISSUES. >> BEAUTIFUL.

WELCOME. AND YOU'RE PART OF A WONDERFUL CARING TEAM AND WE'RE SO GRATEFUL YOU'RE PART OF THE COMMUNITY BECAUSE THAT THAT YOU ARE DESCRIBING AND DOING IS SO

NECESSARY AND SO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR DOING THIS. >> THANK YOU, JUDGE.

>> THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. >> COMMISSIONERS, ANY COMMENTS?

>> NO. PLEASE. >> PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

>> COMMISSIONER SHELL. >> COMMISSIONER INGALSBE. >> YES.

>> COMMISSIONER SMITH TOO YES. >> COMMISSIONER JONES. >> JUDGE DESAUSSURE.

>> YES. WILL YOU PLEASE OPEN AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 23?

[23. Discussion related to the Hays County inmate population, to include current population counts and costs. BECERRA]

>> 23 DISCUSSION RELATED TO THE HAYS COUNTY INMATE POPULATION TO INCLUDE CURRENT POPULATION

COUNTS AND COSTS. >> SO THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE EVERY WEEK PROVIDES ME A REPORT OF THE POPULATION IN OUR JAIL AND I'LL READ IT TO YOU NOW. THE CAPACITY IS 362 INMATES THE JAIL STANDARDS RECOMMENDEDS HOLDING APPROXIMATELY 10% OF CAPACITY OPEN.

BUT LOWERS OUR CAPACITY TO 311. THE JAIL'S DAILY AVERAGE WAS 435 AND PEAK WAS 41 ON JUNE 28TH FOR THE WEEK -- 441 -- JUNE 28TH TO JULY 4TH, 2020. THE ESTIMATED COST FOR OUTSOURCING INMATES THIS WEEK IS $66,612. THE AVERAGE NUMBER OF OUTSOURCED MALE 182. AND FEMALES ARE 9. THIS WEEK'S INMATES WERE HOUSED IN THE FOLLOWING COUNTIES BLANCO BURNETTE, CALDWELL, GUADELUPE AND WALKER.

AND I'VE ALSO ASKED FOR ARRESTS BY AGENCY. BUDA POLICE DEPARTMENT, THREE.

CONSTABLE PRECINCT FIVE, IT SAYS ZERO. I DON'T KNOW WHY IT SAYS THAT.

NO CONSTABLE'S PRECINCT OFFICE HAS BROUGHT SOMEONE TO OUR JAIL. DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC SAFETY, TWO. HAYS COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE, 47.

BUT THOSE ARRESTS INCLUDE COURT-ORDERED COMMITMENTS, INDVIDUALS TURNING THEMSELVES IN ON WARRANTS FROM ALL AGENCIES AND WARRANT PICKUPS FROM OTHER COUNTIES.

KYLE POLICE DEPARTMENT, 16. SAN MARCOS POLICE DEPARTMENT, 27.

TEXAS STATE UNIVERSITY, ZERO. NOW IF THERE'S NO OTHER REQUESTS I WILL GO DOWN THE LIST.

PLEASE -- >> I THINK WE DO HAVE SOME PEOPLE AN TEAMS FOR A COUPLE

OFITE SEEMS IN OK. >> ONE I NO -- ITEMS. ONE I KNOW MS. JORDAN WAS GOING TO PARTICIPATE. GIVE HER A HEADS UP TO COME ON UP SOMETIME SOON.

[Items 2 - 6]

WE CAN GET STOPPING POINT AND BRING THEM ONBOARD. >> IN THE MEANTIME OPEN 206.

COME NONE AS SOON AS YOU'RE AVAILABLE AND WE'LL GO TO THE AGENDAITE PEOPLE.

>> TWO APPROVED PAYMENTS OF COUNTY INVOICES. THREE, APPROVE THE PAVEMENT UNITED HEALTH CARE CLAIMS. FOUR, APPROVE COMMISSIONERS COURT MINUTES OF JUNE 30TH, 2020. FIVE, AUTHORIZE THE EXECUTION OF A NO COST ASR DASH 05 WITH TERRA KIND CONSULTANTS INC. RELATED TO MATERIALS OBSERVATION AND TESTING SERVICES FOR THE HAYS COUNTY PUBLIC SAFETY BOND PROJECTS. SIX, APPROVE UTILITY PERMITS.

>> SECOND. >> SECOND. >> ARE THERE ANY COMMENTS?

PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. >> COMMISSIONER SMITH? >> YES.

>> COMMISSIONER SHELL? >> YES. >> COMMISSIONER JONES?

>> YES. >> COMMISSIONER INGALSBE. >> YES.

>> JUDGE BECERRA. >> YES. PLEASE OPEN 8, 9 AND 1.

[Items 8, 9, & 11]

>> 8 RATIFY THE ACCEPTANCE OF A DONATION OF $500 TO THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE COMMUNITY OUTREACH DIVISION AND AMEND THE BUDGET ACCORDINGLY. 9, AUTHORIZE THE JUVENILE PROBATION DEPARTMENT TO PURCHASE SIX DEL OPTIPLEX DESKTOP COMPUTERS AND SIX MONITORS, ONE PRINTER AND NETWORK CABLING, AND TEN STUDY CARRELS AND CHAIRS UTILIZING FUNDS FROM THE TEXAS JUVENILE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT REGIONAL DIVERSION GRANT AND AMEND THE BUDGET ACCORDINGLY.

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TEXAS HEALTH AND SAFETY CODE 775.082. >> SO MOVED.

>> SECOND. >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

ARE THERE ANY COMMENTS? >> YEAH, I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO AND MS. COULD HAVE FOOE AND -- COFFEE. SHE WAS VERY KIND TO DONATE TO THE SCHER INCIDENT A $500 DONATION. -- SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT A $500 DONATION.

>> PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. >> COMMISSIONER JONES. >> YES.

>> COMMISSIONER SHELL. >> YES. >> COMMISSIONER SMITH.

[12. Discussion and possible action to approve the selection of Binkley & Barfield, Inc. to provide utility coordination services for US 290 at Trautwein Road in Precinct 4; and to authorize staff and counsel to negotiate a contract. ]

>> YES COMMISSIONER INGALSBE. >> AND JUDGE BECERRA. >> YES.

PLEASE OPEN NUMBER 12. >> 12, DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION TO APPROVE THE SELECTION OF BINKLEY AND BARFIELD INC. TO PROVIDE UTILITY COORDINATION SERVICES TO U.S. 209 AT TRAUTWEIN ROAD IN PRECINCT FOUR AND AUTHORIZE STAFF AND COUNSEL TO NEGOTIATE A CONTRACT.

>> SO MOVED. >> SECOND. >> COMMISSIONER.

>> YES, JUDGE, THIS IS THE PROJECT WE ACTUALLY IN THE RECENT PAST WITHIN THE LAST TWO MONTHS MOVED FORWARD WITH A TEMPORARY AWARDING OF THE TEMPORARY SIGNAL THERE UNTIL WE CAN ACTUALLY DO THE COMPLETE PROJECT. THIS IS A FIRST REAL STEP TOWARDS COMPLETION OF THE 20 ROAD PROJECT WITH TRAUTWEIN WITH THE MOVING OF UTILITYIES WHICH IS ESPECIALLY PROBLEMATIC BECAUSE OF MAJOR UTILITIES AND AFFAIRS THAT SUPPLIED DRIPPING SPRINGS RUN THROUGH THAT AREA. SO WITH THAT I'D LIKE IT MOVE FOR ADOPTION.

>> COMMISSIONERS, ANY COMMENTS? QUESTIONS? PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

>> COMMISSIONER JONES? >> YES. >> COMMISSIONER SMITH.

>> YES. >> COMMISSIONER INGALSBE. >> YES.

>> COMMISSIONER SHELL. >> YES. >> JUDGE BECERRA.

>> YES. AND WHAT'S YOUR AGENDA ITEM NUMBER, JORDAN?

WILL YOU PLEASE OPEN 19. >> 19, DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO ADOPT AN ORDER OF THE

[19. Discussion and possible action to adopt an Order of the Commissioners Court of Hays County, Texas Accepting and Approving the 2020 Annual Service Plan Update to the Service and Assessment Plan for the La Cima Public Improvement District, Including an Updated Major Public Improvement Assessment Roll, Neighborhood Improvement Area #1 Assessment Roll and Neighborhood Improvement Area #2 Assessment Roll; Making and Adopting Findings; and Providing a Cumulative Repealer Clause.]

CLAUSE. >> THANK YOU, JUDGE. >> MOTION?

>> SECOND. >> SECOND. >> MOTION AND A SECOND.

NOW WE'RE READY FOR COMMENTS. >> JUDGE, I'VE GOT VANESSA STOW WITH PETREE WORKS AND I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT IT. THISIS THE ANNUAL UPDATE REQUIRED TO DO EVERY YEAR UNDER THE PAY ACT, SO THIS IS JUST THE ANNUAL UPDATE THAT P-3 WORKS HAS

FOR US TODAY. >> PERFECT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> YOUR MIKE IS REAL LOW, DID YOU NOTICE? >> IS IT?

>> WE BARELY HEARD YOU. >> IT'S ON. >> YOU'RE AWESOME.

>> HELLO COMMISSIONERS, MY NAME ISESS IS A STOW AND I'M WITH P3 WORKS WE'RE THE COUNTY'S PIT

ADMINISTRATOR. CAN EVERYONE HEAR ME GOOD? >> PERFECTLY.

>> OK. I'M HERE TODAY TO GIVE YOU AN UPDATE ON THE LA CIMA DISTRICT AS PREVIOUSLY STATED FOR STATUE THE SERVICE AND ASSESSMENT PLAN IS TO BE UPDATED ANNUALLY.

THE 2020 SERVICE PLAN FULFILLS THAT UPDATE THIS. 2020 UPDATE ALSO SERVES TO COMBINE THE 2019 S.A.P IS THE UPDATE WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD IMPROVED S.A.P. INTO ONE DOCUMENT OF CURRENTLY THE PIT IS AT A 100% COLLECTION RATE FOR THE MAJOR PUBLIC PID BONDS AND NEIGHBORHOOD NUMBER ONE WHICH MEANS THERE ARE NO DELINQUENCIES WITHIN THE DISTRICT.

BOTH PLANS FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD IMPROVEMENT ONE ARE OFFICIALLY RECORDED WITHIN THE COUNTY AND AS OF THE MARCH 20 OR MARCH 31ST20 QUARTERLY REPORT, 64 HOMES HAVE BEEN SOLD TO END USERS WITHIN NEIGHBORHOOD IMPROVEMENT AREA NUMBER ONE. NEIGHBORHOOD IMPROVEMENT AREA NUMBER TWO IS CURRENTLY UNDER DEVELOPMENT WITH ALL HOMES EXPECTED TO BE COMPLETE BY SEPTEMBER 30TH, 2023. THE MAJOR PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT PIG ASSESSMENT OF ABOUT $18.43 MILLION. NEIGHBORHOOD IMPROVEMENT AREA NUMBER ONE HAS AN OUTSTANDING ASSESSMENT OF ABOUT $3.87 MILLION, AND NEIGHBORHOOD IMPROVEMENT AREA NUMBER TWO HAS AN OUTSTANDING ASSESSMENT OF APPROXIMATELY $5.47 MILLION. THERE HAS BEEN ONE PREPAYMENT AND FULL WITHIN THE DISTRICT AND THAT PROPERTY IS LOCATED WITHIN NEIGHBORHOOD IMPROVEMENT AREA NUMBER ONE. ALL MAJOR PUBLIC IMPROVEMENTS AND NEIGHBORHOOD PROVEN AREA NUMBER ONE IMPROVEMENTS ARE COMPLETE TO DATE. AND NEIGHBORHOOD IMPROVEMENT

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WE HAVE ALSO ADD LANGUAGE IN THIS SAP UPDATE WHICH DIRECTS THE PROCESS IMMINENT DOMAIN PROCEEDINGS IF ANYTHING WERE TO HAPPEN IN THE FUTURE. I DON'T BELIEVE WE HAVE HAD ANY HAPPEN IN THIS PID THUS FAR, BUT WE'VE SEEN IT HAPPEN ALONG THE 35 CORRIDOR AND IN OTHER JURISDICTIONS, SO WE WOULD JUST LIKE TO ADD THAT LANGUAGE IN AS A TEMPLATE IN CASE ANYTHING HAPPENS MOVING FORWARD. OTHER THAN THAT, THE ASSESSMENT ROLLS FOR EACH IMPROVEMENT AREA HAVE BEEN UPDATED WITH THE 2020 PROPERTY IDS FROM THE APPRAISAL DISTRICT AND REFLECT THE AMOUNTS OWED FOR THE ANNUAL INSTALLMENT DUE JANUARY 31ST OF 201. THE ANNUAL INSTALLMENTS WILL BE BILLED AND COLLECTED IN THE SAME MANNER AND TIMING AS PROPERTY TAXES.

THAT ABOUT COVERS MOST OF THE IMPORTANT STATS ON THE UPDATE AND I'M HERE IF YOU HAVE ANY

OTHER QUESTIONS FOR ME. >> COMMISSIONER SHELL? >> THANK YOU JUDGE THE TEAM HAS ANY QUESTIONS. I KNOW WE HAVE EVERYBODY AVAILABLE.

>> COMMISSIONER INGALSBE? >> I DON'T BELIEVE I HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, JUDGE, AT THIS TIME.

>> COMMISSIONER SMITH? >> I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR KEEPING US UPDATED AS WELL AS Y'ALL. DO I KNOW Y'ALL HAVE BEEN IN WHAT FIVE TIMES IN THE LAST FOUR MONTHS? SOMETHING LIKE THAT ON DIFFERENT ISSUES, SO IT'S ALWAYS GOOD TO HEAR FROM Y'ALL AND IT'S ALWAYS GOOD TO KNOW HOW THE PROJECT IS GOING.

SO THANK YOU. >> I HAD ONE QUESTION. DID I HEAR YOU TALK ABOUT PUTTING A CLAUSE IN AS A JUST IN CASE? CAN YOU EXPAND ON THAT JUST A

LITTLE BIT MORE FOR THE VIEWING PUBLIC? >> YES, FOR THE IMMINENT DOMAIN.

SO WE'VE SEEN THIS HAPPEN AND A FEW OTHER JURISDICTIONS, WHERE WE HAVE HAD TECH STOCKS COME IN AND TAKE SOME OF THE RIGHT OF WAY FOR RIGHT OF WAY FOR OTHER PARTS OF THE ROAD THAT ARE NEXT TO CERTAIN AREAS, MAINLY RIGHT NOW WHAT WE'RE SEEING IT'S ALONGSIDE I-35.

SO WHAT DONE IS WE'VE JUST PUT INTO PLACE THE MECHANISM OF HOW TO HANDLE THAT, AND IF YOU GO THROUGH AND READ THROUGH, IT IT ACTUALLY GIVES A PRETTY GOOD EXAMPLE OF IF TECH STOCKS TAKE, IF THE ASSESSMENT IS $100 TECH STOCKS TAKES $10 OFF THE ASSESSMENT.

IT'S THE PROCESS OF HOW WE WOULD PREPAY THE ASSESSMENT OF THAT IMMINENT DOMAIN.

>> BUT IT'S NOT LA CIMA PUSHING ON IMMINENT DOMAIN. IT'S TECH STOCKS DOING.

>> YES IT'S THE REASON WE ARE DOING THIS ALL THIS UPDATED LANGUAGE.

THE LANGUAGE ISN'T IN THE ORIGINAL DOCUMENT. THE UPDATES FOR 2020 IS WE'RE ADDING THE LANGUAGE IN JUST AS A SAFETY MEASURE WE'LL HAVE A PROCESS AND SOMETHING TO FOLLOW.

YES TXDOT RIGHT NOW IS THE ONLY ONE WE'VE SEEN SO FAR WITH THE IMMINENT DOMAIN.

>> VERY NICE. JORDAN, LIKE TO ADD ANYTHING SOME.

>> NO, I -- I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD IN ADDITION TO VANESSA.

IF THE COURT FINDS CAUSE TO ADOPT THE ORDER, I HAVE WORD THE ITEMS SPECIFICALLY BECAUSE OF PID LANGUAGE IS FIRST SPECIFIC ON WHAT'S REQUIRED FOR THE ORDERS SO THE AGENDA ITEM LANGUAGE IS, YOU READ IT SPECIFICALLY THAT WILL SATISFY THE PURPOSES FOR THE ORDER THAT

WE NEED UNDER THE PID ACT. >> WE ALSO HAVE OUR BOND COUNCIL ON THE TEAM TOO IF ANYONE HAS

ANY QUESTIONS FOR JULIA. >> ANYTHING ON THE BONDS? PIECE.

WELL DONE, COMMISSIONER? >> I HEAR NOTHING FURTHER ANY QUESTIONS I'LL GO TO MAKE A MOTION TO ADOPT AN ORDER OF THE COMMISSIONERS COURT OF HAYS COUNTY TEXAS ACCEPTING AND APPROVING THE 2020 ANNUAL SERVICE PLAN UPDATE TO THE SERVICE AND ASSESSMENT PLANT LA CIMA PUB IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT INCLUDING AN UPDATED MAJOR PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT ASSESSMENT ROLL NEIGHBORHOOD IMPROVEMENT AREA NUMBER ONE ASSESSMENT ROLL AND NEIGHBORHOOD IMPROVEMENT AREA NUMBER TWO ASSESSMENT ROLL MAKE AND ADOPTING FINDINGS AND PROVIDING A CUMULATIVE REPEALER

CLAUSE. >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND AGAIN FOR GOOD MEASURE.

PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. >> COMMISSIONER JONES. >> YES.

>> COMMISSIONER INGALSBE. >> YES. >> COMMISSIONER SHELL.

>> YES. >> COMMISSIONER SMITH. >> YES.

>> JUDGE BECERRA. >> YES, AND THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING ON THE TEAM AND FOR BEING

SO PATIENT AND THANK YOU JORDAN FOR CHIMING IN AS WELL. >> THANKS TO AUR CLERKS OFFICE

IN DEALING WITH THESE. >> THANK YOU, APPRECIATE IT. >> EXACTLY RIGHT.

TALK ABOUT -- THAT'S EXACTLY RIGHT. TALK ABOUT STRESSING OUT A BRAND NEW SYSTEM, YOU HAVE HAD TO LEARN IT WELL RIGHT BECAUSE WE'RE USING THE HECK OUT OF IT.

THAT'S RIGHT COUNTY CLERKS OFFICE, THANK YOU. OK.

[13. Discussion and possible action to approve Agreement for a Local On-System Improvement Project at US 290 and Henly Loop between Hays County and the Texas Department of Transportation (TxDOT) and authorize the County Judge to execute an Agreement for a Local On-System Improvement Project on behalf of Hays County. SMITH/BORCHERDING]

WE WILL CONTINUE IT ITEM NUMBER 13, PLEASE. >> 13, DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO APPROVE THE AGREEMENT FOR LOCAL ON-SYSTEM IMPROVEMENT PROJECT AT THE U.S. 290 AND HENLEY LOOP BETWEEN HAYS COUNTY AND THE TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION AND AUTHORIZE THE COUNTY JUDGE TO EXECUTE AN AGREEMENT FOR A LOCAL ON-SYSTEM IMPROVEMENT PROJECT ON BEHALF

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HAYS COUNTY. >> IS MOVED. >> SECOND.

>> COMMISSIONER? >> JUDGE, THIS IS AGAIN, ANOTHER ONE OF THE 2016 ROAD BOND PROJECTS. IF YOU LOOK IN THE BACKUP THE DOCUMENTATION PROVIDED IN THERE THERE WAS A RESOLUTION SPECIFICALLY OUTLYING WHAT THE COUNTY RESPONSIBILITIES AS WELL AS WHAT THE -- WHICH ARE THE DIRECT COSTS AND WHAT ABOUT THE STATE RESPONSIBILITIES WHICH ARE THE INDIRECT COSTS ARE RELATED TO THIS PROJECT. IT'S AUTHORIZED AS PART OF THE

2016 ROAD BOND AND FUNDED THROUGH THAT. >> ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR

QUESTIONS? PLEASE CALL THE ROLL, DOCTOR. >> COMMISSIONER SHELL.

>> YES. >> JONES.& >> COMMISSIONER INGALSBE.

>> YES. >> COMMISSIONER SMITH. >> YES.

>> AND JUDGE BECERRA. >> YES. PLEASE OPEN 14.

[14. Discussion and possible action to select Cobb, Fendley & Associates, Inc. to provide right-of-way acquisition services for RM 967 Safety Turn Lanes (Buda Sports Complex Drive, Hays CISD High School No. 3, and Oak Forest Drive Intersections) in Precinct 2; and to authorize staff and counsel to negotiate a contract, granting an exemption to formal procurement pursuant to Texas Local Government Code Section 262.024(a)(4) (professional services). JONES/BORCHERDING]

>> 14, DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO SELECT COBB, FENDLEY AND ASSOCIATES INC. TO PROVIDE RIGHT OF WAY ACQUISITION SERVICES FOR RM-967 SAFETY TURN LANES AT WILL BUDA SPORTS COMPLEX DRIVE, HAYS CISD HIGH SCHOOL NUMBER THREE AND OAK FOREST DRIVE INTERSECTIONS IN PRECINCT TWO, AND TO AUTHORIZE STAFF AND COUNCIL TO NEGOTIATE A CONTRACT GRANTING AN EXEMPTION TO FORMAL PROCUREMENT PURSUANT TO TEXAS LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 262.024-A-4, FOR

PROFESSIONAL SERVICES. >> SO MOVED. >> SECOND.

>> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. I GOT TO ASK.

ANY RELATION TO MY PREDECESSOR? WITH THE TITLE I'VE BEEN WHICH ONE?

>> COBB. >> NO. I'LL SAY IT OUT LOUD.

>> COULDN'T HAVE A FINER NAME. >> THERE YOU GO. RIGHT ON.

>> NO, THIS IS A VERY IMPORTANT PROJECT PRECINCT 2. THE TURN LANES ON 967 THAT EVEN WITH IMPROVEMENTS ON 1626 AND IMPROVEMENTS ON THE OTHER SIDE, WE'RE STILL BACK UP EVERY SINGLE DAY. WE HAVE TWO OR THROW SCHOOLS ON THIS ROAD, SO WE'RE WANTING TO GET THIS -- THREE SCHOOLS -- GET THIS DONE QUICKLY. THE ROADWAY PERSON ON THIS JOB HAS DONE EXTENSIVE WORK ON THIS 1626 AND IN THIS AREA LIVES LIKE A BLOCK AWAY FROM THE AREA, TOO,

SO SHE'S ON THE JOB ALREADY. >> THANK YOU. COMMISSIONERS ANY COMMENTS OR

QUESTIONS? PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. >> COMMISSIONER SMITH.

>> YES. >> COMMISSIONER SHELL. >> YES COMMISSIONER JONES.

>> YES. >> COMMISSIONER INGALSBE. >> JUDGE BECERRA.

>> YES, PLEASE OPEN 15. >> 15, DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO CALL FOR A PUBLIC

[15. Discussion and possible action to call for a public hearing on July 21, 2020 to reduce the current 60 MPH speed limit to 45 MPH on the west end of Winters Mill Parkway for the new WISD Blue Hole Primary school. SHELL/BORCHERDING]

>> SO MOVED. >> SECOND. >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A

SECOND. COMMISSIONER? >> THIS WILL BE CALLING FOR A PUBLIC HEARING. AND YOU CAN SEE WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING FOR THE NEW SCHOOL TO DROP THE SPEED LIMIT FROM 60 MILES PER HOUR ON WINTERS MILL AS YOU'RE APPROACHING 12 ON THE CORNER OF WHERE THE SCHOOL IS TO 45 AND OBVIOUSLY, THERE WILL BE A SCHOOL ZONE IN THERE AS WELL, BUT THAT WILL AT LEAST DROP THAT TO SPEED LIMIT FROM 60 TO 45 SO WHEN YOU DO HAVE TO SLOW DOWN TO

35 YOU'LL BE PREPARED TO DO SO. >> WELL DONE. PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

>> COMMISSIONER INGALSBE WHY YES. >> COMMISSIONER JONES.

>> YES. >> COMMISSIONER SHELL. >> YES.

>> COMMISSIONER SMITH. >> YES. >> JUDGE BECERRA.

>> YES, PLEASE OPEN 16. >> 16 DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLES TO AUTHORIZE THE COUNTY JUDGE TO

[16. Discussion and possible action to authorize the County Judge to execute Supplemental #5 to the Professional Services Agreement (PSA) between Hays County and HDR Engineering, Inc. for Robert S. Light Boulevard as part of the Hays County/TxDOT Partnership Program. JONES/BORCHERDING]

PARTNERSHIP PROGRAM. >> SO MOVED. >> SECOND.

>> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND COMMISSIONER. >> YEAH YEAH I BELIEVE

MRS. KENNEDY HAS A COMMENT ON THISITE PEOPLE. >> THE COURT IS INCLINED TO ACCEPT THIS ITEM I WOULD ASK THAT YOU ALSO APPLY AN EXEMPTION UNDER TEXAS LOCAL GOVERNMENT

CODE 26202404-A-4 AS DID YOU ON THE PREVIOUS ILT PEOPLE. >> I'LL ADD THAT TO MYITE

PEOPLE. >> -- PREVIOUS ITEM. >> IT'S AN INCREASE SO THE

AUDITOR REQUEST THAT BE DONE. >> IT'S A $357,000 COST ADJUSTMENT.

JUDGE, WHAT THIS IS, IS A REDESIGN ROBERT LIGHT AND SOME MORE ENGINEERING BECAUSE OF THE LASS 14, SO THERE'S SOME MORE ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUES THAT COME UP AND WE GOT REDESIGN WITH THE

NEW FLOOD PLAIN. >> HOW MUCH IS THAT COSTING? >> WE'RE GOING TO RAISE THE CAP

$375,000. >> FOR AN ADDITIONAL $375,000 THEY ARE GOING TO INCORPORATE

THE ATLAS 14 FLOOD MAPPING INFORMATION IS. >> YES, SIR.

>> YES. >> THEY DON'T HAVE A CHOICE. THIS IS A PARTNERSHIP WITH TXDOT SO THIS WILL GET NEWS COMPLIANCE TAKE CARE OF THE ENVIRONMENTAL, THE INCREASE OF ENVIRONMENTAL

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SO I GOING TO DELAY US A LITTLE BIT BUT NOT TOO MUCH. >> ROBERT S. LIGHT.

>> THAT GOES FROM THE ROBERT LIGHT BRIDGE ON 35 AND TAKES THE NEW ROAD ALL THE WAY TO 1626.

THIS IS OUR BIGGEST RELIEVER FOR THE DOWNTOWN BUDA FROM TRUCK TRAFFIC AND ALSO PRESSURE ON 967

THAT MANY OF US KNOW TOO WELL, ESPECIALLY GRUMBLES. >> YES, SIR.

>> OK. >> I SHOULD SAY ESPECIALLY HIS WIFE.

>> ANY COMMENTS FROM THE COMMISSIONERS? >> NO.

>> PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. >> COMMISSIONER JONES? >> YES.

>> COMMISSIONER INGALSBE. >> YES. >> COMMISSIONER SMITH.

>> YES. >> COMMISSIONER SHELL. >> YES.

>> JUDGE BECERRA. >> YES. PLEASE OPEN 17.

[17. Discussion and possible action regarding the Emergency Cash Assistance Program (ECAP), also known as Project Recoil, including but not limited to, the appointment of Award Committee members, funding of the program, and the consideration of program guidelines. SHELL]

>> 17, DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION REGARDING THE EMERGENCY CASH ASSISTANCE PROGRAM ALSO KNOWN AS PROJECT RECOIL, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO THE APPOINTMENT OF AWARD COMMITTEE MEMBERS FUNDING OF THE PROGRAM AND THE CONSIDERATION OF PROGRAM GUIDELINES.

>> SUMMON -- SO MOVED. >> MOVED. >> THISITE SEM ON JUST IN CASE

THERE'S ANY ACTION NEEDED OF THE COURT -- THIS ITEM. >> I CAN UPDATE YOU ON ACTIVITIES I'VE SPOKEN TO JASON JULIETY A COUPLE OF TIMESS AND WE ARE MOVING FORWARD ON CONSTITUTING THE COMMITTEE AND HAVING A FIRST MEETING. HE'S GOING TO CALL THE MEETING TO TALK ABOUT THE POLICY ITSELF AND ALSO LOGISTICS ISSUE, KIND OF GET EVERYBODY TAKEN ALONG THE LINES. MEANTIME, HE HAS REACHED OUT AND TRIED TO FIND A COMPANY THAT COULD SUB EITHER UNDER GSMP OR CONTRACT DIRECTLY WITH THE COUNTY TO HELP ADMINISTER THE PROGRAM THAT THE PROBLEM THAT THE SMP HAS DOESN'T WANT TO HANDLE PROPRIETARY BANKING INFORMATION, ETC., THAT A COMPANY MIGHT BE PROVIDING IN ITS APPLICATION OF MATERIALS, WANTS TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S HANDLING ALL OF THAT PROPERLY, HANDLING THE FUNDING PROPERLY.

HE'S REACHED OUT FOR QUOTES TO A COUPLE OF COMPANIES TO FIND OUT WHAT THEY WOULD CHARGE TO HELP US, YOU KNOW, SORT OF ACT AS A CLEARING HOUSE FOR THE FUNDING. I BELIEVE HE'S -- HE AND I ARE GOING TO WORK ON TRYING TO GET A THIRD QOSMT IT'S GOING TO BE UNDER 50 SO WE'LL NEED TO COMPLY WITH COUNTY POLICY BUT NOT PROCUREMENT STANDSARDS. AND SO I KNOW HE'S REACHED OUT TO A COUPLE AND THERE'S A COMPANY OUT OF SAN ANTONIO DON'T KNOW THE NAME OFFHAND BECAUSE HE MADE CONTACT BUT THERE'S A COMPANY OUT OF SAN ANTONIO RIGHT NOW THAT'S PROVIDED THE BEST QUOTE FOR THOSE SERVICES. THAT IS SOMETHING YOU'LL PROBABLY SEE COME IT COURT NEXT WEEK IF IT IS SOMETHING THAT WE DO IN A DIRECT CONTRACT. I THINK IT'S LIKELY GOING TO BE THAT WAY BECAUSE THEY WOULD DRAW ON A SMALL PERCENTAGE OF THE FUNDING TO ADMINISTER THE PROGRAM AND EITHER ADD FUNDING FOR HAD A ADMINISTRATION TO KEEP THE 500,000 INTACT FOR THE BUSINESSES OR DRAW ON IT, ONE OR THE OTHER. I THINK A LOT OF THAT WILL

PROBABLY BE DETERMINED BY THE AMOUNT THEY ARE ASKING FOR. >> I BELIEVE BEAR COUNTY USED A NOT FOR PROFIT LENDER FOR THEIR PROGRAM. THERE WAS A FEE A FEW PERCENT TO HANDLE ALL THAT SO WITH YOU ACTUALLY HAD A LEND HEAR IT WAS GETTING THE INFORMATION AND UPHOLDING THE INFORMATION IN CONFIDENTIAL WAYS LIKE OUR BANKERS WOULD FOR ANY OTHER BUSINESS. NOT HAVING ANYONE ELSE HAVE ACCESS TO THAT.

>> MY GUESS IS THAT AT THE GOING RATE HOPEFULLY IS IN THE 2-3% RANGE, AND THERE MAY SOMEBODY FEES ASSOCIATED WITH IT, WHATNOT. TRYING TO KEEP IT AROUND THAT RANGE I THINK IS KEEPING THE PROGRAMS OBJECTIVES IN MIND, AND PUTTING THE PREDOMINANT AMOUNT

OF THE MONEY TOWARD THE PROGRAM ITSELF AND THE ADMINISTERING. >> SO NO MOVING FORWARD QUITE

YET. >> IT'S WE'RE IN THE ORGANIZATIONAL STAGE NOW GETTING THAT FIRST MEETING. I THINK ONCE THE COMMITTEE GETS THAT FIRST MEETING AND GETS

ROLLING, WE'LL BE FINE. >> THE COMMITTEE HAS BEEN WORKING ON DOING THIS IN THE

AREA. IT SHOULD BE REAL PRODUCTIVE. >> I THINK THAT I CAN'T REMEMBER OF WHICH YOU SAID LAST WEEK THAT YOU KNOW, THE APPLICATIONS -- THE FIRST GROUNDED APPLICATIONS WILL EAT UP THE MONEY WE APPLIED TO THE PROGRAM ALMOST INEVITABLY IF THE PROGRAMS ELSEWHERE ARE ANY INDICATOR. THAT'S PROBABLY WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN SO I THINK IT WILL MOVE QUICKLY ONCE WE GET MOVING. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE GET ALL THE PARTS IN PLACE TO DO SO

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WITH CONFIDENTIALITY AND WITH, YOU KNOW, EFFICIENCY. >> OK.

WERE THE OTHER TWO MEMBERS APPOINTED? >> -- NOT HAVE NAMES FOR YOU BUT YES, HE WAS REACHING OUT TO THOSE ENTITIES THE DAY AFTER AND TOLD ME HE WOULD HAVE THEM.

I APOLOGIZE I DON'T HAVE THOSE NAMES OFFHAND. >> THAT'S OK.

>> BUT THEY WERE APPOINTED? >> YES, I BELIEVE SO. SO I THINK WE HAVE THE BOARD CONSTITUTED COMPLETELY, AND I GUESS I SAID EARLIER CONSTITUTED.

I MEANT HAVING A MEETING OF THE COMMITTEE. I BELIEVE IT'S BEEN CONSTITUTED COMPLETELY. AND I WILL GET NAMES FOR YOU AND E-MAIL THEM TO YOU INDIVIDUALLY.

>> WONDERFUL. THANK YOU, SIR. NOTHING ELSE WE'RE GOING TO GO ON TO EXECUTIVE SESSION. COMMISSIONER JONES WE NEED TO OPEN 21.

>> IS JERRY AVAILABLE? >> OK WHAT WE'LL DO IS ASK YOU PLEASE OPEN AGENDAS ITEM -- DID I LEAVE ANY OUT BEFORE WE GO TO -- I'M GOING TO OPEN 20 257ND 1 IF THERE'S NOTHING LEFT TO DO.

[Items 20 & 21]

>> PLEASE OPEN EXECUTIVE SESSION ITEMS NUMBER 20 AND 21.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.