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WOULD YOU PLEASE OPEN AGENDA ITEM NUMBER ONE.

ADOPT A PROCLAMATION -- WITH A MOTION A SECOND.

ARE THERE ANY OTHER COMMENTS? -- ADOPT A PROCLAMATION DECLARING TH MONTH OF JANUARY 2020 CRIMESTOPPERS MONTH IN HAYS COUNTY.

WHEREAS COMMUNITIES CANNOT PROSPER IF THEY ARE NOT SAFE, AND WHEN OUR LIVES ARE DISRUPTED BY CRIMINALS, THE OUTCOME CAN INCLUDE NOT ONLY INJURY AND DAMAGE, BUT ALSO LOSS OF LIFE AND THE LOSS OF A VITAL SENSE OF SECURITY; AND WHEREAS, SINCE 1976, CRIMESTOPPERS PROGRAMS HAVE EMPOWERED CITIZENS ACROSS OUR STATE TO TAKE A STAND AGAINST CRIME AND RECLAIM THEIR SENSE OF SAFETY, AND THESE PROGRAMS BRING TOGETHER LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES, CITIZENS, AND THE MEDIA TO SOLVE CRIMES AND CATCH CRIMINALS; AND WHEREAS, CRIMESTOPPERS PROGRAMS ACROSS TEXAS HAVE RECEIVED MORE THAN 63,000 ANONYMOUS TIPS LEADING TO THE ARREST OF OVER 3779 SUSPECTS, $1.2 MILLION IN REWARDS PAID AND OVER $11 MILLION WORTH OF NARCOTICS SEIZED BY LAW ENFORCEMENT RESPONDING TO TIP; AND WHEREAS HAYS COUNTY CRIME STOPPERS TO DATE HAS FACILITATED MORE THAN 695 ARREST, CLEARED MORE THAN 831 CASES, PAID OUT MORE THAN $75,000 FOR TIPS, AND RECOVERED MORE THAN $304,000 IN PROPERTY, $12 MILLION IN ILLEGAL DRUGS, -- $12 MILLION IN ILLEGAL DRUGS, AND MORE THAN $12.8 MILLION; NOW THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED THAT THE HAYS COUNTY COMMISSIONERS COURT PROCLAIMS JANUARY 2020 ADS CRIMESTOPPERS MONTH AN THANKS TO THE HAYS COUNTY STOPPERS PROGRAM FOR PROVIDING AN EXTREMEL SUCCESSFUL AVENUE FOR CITIZENS TO ASSIST THEMSELVES, THEIR COMMUNITIES, AND OTHER LAW ENFORCEMENT IN PREVENTING AND SOLVING CRIMES.

ADOPTED THIS, THE 14TH DAY OF JANUARY, 2020.

THANK YOU FOR THAT.

DOCTOR WILL YOU CALL THE ROLL.

(ROLL CALL).

NOW WOULD YOU TAKE -- IS CUSTOMARY FOR US TO TAKE A QUICK PICK.

ARE THERE PEOPLE INTERESTED IN COMING TOGETHER FOR THIS PICTURE? COME ON UP.

OKAY.

EVERYONE SQUISHING JUST A LITTLE.

VERY GOOD.

WE WILL LOOK AT THE CAMERA AND SMILED BIG.

BIG SMILE, ONE MORE.

EXCELLENT.

THANK YOU.

ONE MORE? ONE MORE ONE, TWO, THREE.

BEAUTIFUL.

AWESOME.

.

I DIDN'T TAKE IT ANYWAY AT ALL.

WOULD YOU PLEASE OPEN AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 27.

[27. Discussion related to the Hays County inmate population, to include current population counts and costs. BECERRA ]

NUMBER 27 DISCUSSION RELATED TO THE HAYS COUNTY INMATE POPULATION TO INCLUDE CURRENT POPULATION COUNTS AND COSTS.

EACH WEEK THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE PROVIDE MY OFFICE A REPORT, OUR

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JAIL POPULATION AND I WILL READ THAT REPORT NOW.

OUR JAIL CAPACITY IN THE COUNTY JAIL HAS A CAPACITY OF 362 INMATES.

JAIL STANDARDS RECOMMENDS HOLDING APPROXIMATELY 10 PERCENT OF CAPACITY OPEN.

THAT LOWERS OUR CAPACITY TO 311.

THE JAIL'S DAILY AVERAGE WAS 553 AND PEAK WAS 560 ON JANUARY 9, FOR THE WEEK OF JANUARY 5 THROUGH JANUARY 11, 2020.

THE ESTIMATED COST FOR OUTSOURCING INMATES THIS WEEK IS 82,000, $914.

THE AVERAGE NUMBER OF OUTSOURCED MALES IS 189 AND FEMALES ARE 20.

THIS WEEK'S INMATES WERE HOUSED IN THE FOLLOWING COUNTIES.

BELL, BURNETT, COLQUITT, FORT BEND, GUADALUPE, TRAVIS AND WALKER.

AND I THINK THE COUNTIES FOR WORKING WITH US.

WE PLEASE OPEN AGENDA ITEM 237.

[Items 2 - 7]

TWO, PREPAYMENTS OF COUNTY INVOICES THREE, APPROVED PAYMENTS OF DRIVER CHECKS.

FOR APPROVED THE PAYMENT OF UNITED HEALTHCARE CLAIMS. FIVE, APPROVED COMMISSIONER COURTS MINUTE OF JANUARY 7, 2020.

SIX AUTHORIZE ON-SITE SEWAGE FACILITY PERMIT FOR TO LONG TERM RENTAL HOUSES AT 13 TO 65 SILVER CREEK ROAD, AUSTIN TEXAS.

SEVEN, APPROVED THE REAPPOINTMENT OF PAUL TERRY TO SERVE AN EMERGENCY DISICK TRICK NUMBER FIVE OR TWO YEAR TERM, ENDING DECEMBER 31, 2021.

ALMOST.

SECOND.

WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

I'M SORRY.

I WANT TO THANK MR. TERRY FOR SERVING AGAIN.

I THINK THIS IS HIS FOURTH TERM AND I WANT T THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE.

YES.

PLEASE CALL THE ROLL, DOCTOR CARDENAS.

(ROLL CALL) PLEASE OPEN EIGHT, NINE AND 10.

[Item 8 - 10]

EIGHT AUTHORIZE THE COUNTY JUDGE TO EXECUTE A RENEWAL OF THE TEXAS WORKFORCE COMMISSION INFORMATION RELEASE CONTRAC FOR $1500.

NINE, AUTHORIZE THE JUVENILE PROBATION DEPARTMENT TO REPLACE A BUDGETED COUNTY ISSUED PHONE WITH A $45 A MONTH TELEPHONE ALLOWANCE EFFECTIVE JANUARY 16, 2020 FOR THE SENIOR JUVENILE PROBATION OFFICER, SLIDE NUMBER 0957-001 AND AMEND THE BUDGET ACCORDINGLY.

10, EXCEPT 25$25,500 IN GRANT CONTRIBUTIONS ON BEHALF OF THE HAYS COUNTY CHILD PROTECTIVE BOARD AND AMEND THE BUDGET ACCORDINGLY.

SO MOVED.

WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

ARE THERE ANY COMMENTS? PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

(ROLL CALL) PLEASE OPEN 11.

[11. Authorize the Hays County Constable Pct. 4 Office to accept a $339.98 donation from Mrs. Kimberley and Mr. Mark Nearburg, for the purchase of safety and protective equipment, specifically, motorcycle boots for the Hays County Deputy Constable, Pct. 4 motor officer and amend the budget accordingly. ]

11, AUTHORIZE THE HAYS COUNTY CONSTABLE PRESENT FOR OFFICE TO ACCEPT A $339.98 DONATION FROM MRS. KIMBERLEY AND MR. MAR NEARBURG, FOR THE PURCHASE OF SAFETY AND PROTECTIVE EQUIPMENT, SPECIFICALLY, MOTORCYCLE BOOTS FOR THE HAYS COUNTY DEPUTY CONSTABLE, PRESENT FORD MOTOR OFFICER AND AMEND THE BUDGET ACCORDINGLY.

AND WE HAVE ONE PERSON SIGNED UP TO SPEAK.

MR. DAN LYON.

THANK YOU, JUDGE.

FIRST OF ALL, I'D LIKE TO THANK MRS. KIMBERLEY AND MR. MARK NEARBURG FOR THEIR CONCERN FOR THE CONSTABLES AND THEIR GENERATION DONATION.

I REALIZE THAT $339.98 IS A LOT OF MONEY FOR A PAIR OF BOOTS.

BUT THIS EXPENSE IS NOTHING COMPARED TO THE COST OF SKIN GRAFTS OF THE CONSTABLES SHOULD SKID ALONG THE PAVEMENT WITHOUT ADEQUATE BOOTS.

I ALSO REALIZE THAT THE COMMISSIONERS TRYING TO SAVE MONEY.

BUT WE SHOULD NOT COMPROMISE ON SAFETY.

I READ DISBURSEMENTS EVERY WEEK, THE PAYMENT OF WHICH IS AT LEAST -- THERE ARE PLENTY OF PLACES THAT WE CAN SAVE MONEY.

SAFETY BOOTS SHOULD NOT BE ONE OF THEM.

I STILL AM AGAINST MOTORCYCLE PATROLS BECAUSE OF THE INHERENT DANGER OF THEM.

IT'S LIKE -- I DON'T KNOW.

I'VE HEARD STATISTICS THAT THEY ARE 12 TIMES MORE LIKELY TO HAVE ACCIDENTS.

AND IF YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE THESE MOTORCYCLE PATROLS, YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE TO GO ALL THE WAY AND EQUIP THE OFFICERS WITH THE PROPER SAFETY EQUIPMENT BECAUSE IT'S, YOU KNOW, GOD FORBID, BUT IT'S PROBABLY A MATTER OF TIME BEFORE SOMEBODY LAYS ONE OF THOSE MOTORCYCLES OVER WHEN SOMEBODY PULLS

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OUT IN FRONT OF THEM.

SO I THINK WE HAD TO GIVE THEM THE BEST CHANCE POSSIBLE TO PREVENT INJURY.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU MR. LION.

AND JUST AS A POINT OF CLARIFICATION, THIS COURT'S DECISION LAST TIME ON THIS ITEM WAS NOT IS A SUPPORT.

BECAUSE WE ARE ALL IN SUPPORT, IT'S PROCESS AND POLICY THAT WOULD RIPPLE COUNTYWIDE IF WE WERE DISCUSSING, BUT I WOULD HOPE THAT NO ONE IN THE COMMUNITY SEES THE DIRECTION OF THE VOTE IN ANY DIRECTION IS NOT SUPPORTING OUR FRONT LINE.

COMMISSIONER? THANK YOU, JUDGE.

I -- IMAGINE THE VOTE THAT WE HAD ON THIS EARLIER AND WHAT IS INTERESTING IS SPECIFIC TO THAT, I WOULD DISAGREE.

WE TALK THAT DAY ABOUT THIS BEING A SAFETY APPARATUS AND THE CONCERN BROUGHT BEFORE THE COURT WAS WELL, YOU KNOW, WE WOUL HAVE TO PAY FOR OTHER BOOTS FOR OTHER COUNTY EMPLOYEES.

THIS WOULD SET A PRECEDENT SOMEHOW.

SINCE THAT TIME, I'VE DONE SOME CHECKING AND WE ACTUALLY DO PAY FOR PROTECTIVE FOOT WEAR FOR A TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT.

AND OTHER MEMBERS OF OUR -- THE COUNTY.

OTHER EMPLOYEES.

AND SO FOR ME, I FULLY EXPECT TO COME THI NEXT BUDGET CYCLE AND GOING TO BRING THIS UP AGAIN AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT IT AGAIN FOR THE OTHER OFFICERS THAT WE HAVE, NOT JUST IN THIS OFFICE BUT ALSO IN ALL THE CONSTABLES OFFICES AND AS LONG AS THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT HAS MOTOR DEPUTIES AS WELL, WE WILL PROPOSE TO DO THE SAME THINGS FOR THEM.

FORGIVE ME.

MR. NEARBURG, Y'ALL MAY NOT REMEMBER THE DAY THAT WE HAD THE DEBATE HEARING COURT, BUT MR. NEARBURG WAS HERE THAT DAY.

FORGIVE ME.

JUST LIKE EVERYBODY, I'VE BEEN FIGHTING CEDAR THIS WEEK.

BUT HE WAS HERE ON BEHALF OF HIS OWN PERSONAL BUSINESS.

HE WAS HERE TO TRY TO COME BEFORE US AND YOU WERE KIND ENOUGH TO APPROVE A NEW BUSINESS THAT HE IS OPERATING.

AND PERSONALLY, AFTER LISTENING TO THAT DEBATE, HE WAS MORTIFIED.

HE HATED IT.

HE WAS A FORMER OFFICER HIMSELF.

AND BEFORE WE LEFT COURT THAT DAY, HE SAID I'M IN A TAKE IT UPON MYSELF, MY WIFE AND I AM WE ARE GOING TO PAY FOR THE BOOTS.

SO I JUST WANT TO THANK HIM.

I WANT TO GIVE CONSTABLE HOLD A CHANCE TO SPEAK BUT THEN I WOULD MOVE FOR ADOPTION OF THIS ACCEPTANCE OF THIS DONATION.

IF THERE'S ANYTHING YOU LIKE TO SAY? IF YOU GIVE ME A SECOND? SO, WAS THAT A MOTION? BEFORE REMOVING THINK WE NEED TO DISCUSS IT BEFORE WE VOTE ON IT SO THAT'S THE REASON I ASKED IF YOU ANY QUESTIONS BEFORE MADE THE MOTION.

THAT'S.

ARGUMENT THE MOTION.

THAT'S THE PART I'M TRYING TO NAVIGATE.

I MOVE THAT WE ACCEPT THE DONATION OF $339.99 FOR THE ACCEPTANCE OF A DONATION PAID FOR THE BOOTS OF THE CONSTABLE.

SECOND.

WE HAVE A SECOND.

AND NOW WE ARE IN THE COMMENTS SECTION SO I APPRECIATE THAT.

CONSTABLE,HOOD, WOULD YOU PLEASE APPROACH THE THE PODIUM.

I, TOO, WOULD LIKE TO THANK MR. NEARBURG AND HIS WIFE WERE THERE DONATION.

IT WAS COMPLETELY UNEXPECTED.

AS THE COMMISSION SAID HE WAS SITTING IN THE AUDIENCE THAT DAY AND WAS MOVED TO CONTACT THE COMMISSIONER CONTACT ME AND EXPRESSES CONCERN FOR THE SAFETY OF THE OFFICER AND HIS PURCHASING OF THE BOOTS AND I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THANK YOU FOR HIS GENEROSITY TO HE AND HIS WIFE.

ANY QUESTIONS? THANK YOU, CONSTABLE.

ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE CONSTABLE? I WOULD LIKE TO JUST REITERATE THAT AS WE MOVE THROUGH THIS BECAUSE I WAS ONE OF THE NO VOTES ON THE BOOTS.

I'M USING THE CONVERSATION OF AUDITOR' OFFICE AND HISTORICAL CONVERSATIONS AND HOW THINGS HAVE BEEN SET UP IN THE PAST AND #NAME? SUPPORTED DEPUTY CONSTABLE AND I AM IN FUL SUPPORT OF THE FRONTLINE.

SO PLEASE DON'T MISCONSTRUE OR THINK THAT - A NO VOTE WAS NOT IN SUPPORT OF YOUR DEPARTMENT.

I DO NOT.

JUST SO UNDERSTANDABLE HAVE THIS OTHER OFFICER COMING IN IN APRIL AND I WAS SUSPECT THAT I WILL BE BACK HAVING THE SAME DISCUSSION WITH THE COMMISSIONERS REGARDING THESE BOOTS BEING A SAFET EQUIPMENT AND NOT UNIFORM.

RATE.

THANK YOU CONSTABLE.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

SO I HAD A -- WHEN THIS AGENDA ITEM CAME OUT, I HAD A CITIZEN REACH OUT TO ME AND ASKED ME IF THERE WAS A CONSTABLE ASSOCIATION OR SOME

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MECHANISM THAT WOULD ACCEPT MONEY FOR THE FRONTLINE BECAUSE THE IMPRESSION WAS POTENTIALLY, THAT HE COULD CREATE A POTENTIAL UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCE OF UNDUE INFLUENCE JUDGMENT LET'S THEY'LL GIVE YOU A QUICK EXAMPLE.

LET'S SAY I'M DRIVING DOWN TO 90 AND 12 AND I RUN THAT YELLOW LIGHT AND ITS RED AND I HAVE MY CHECK IT OUT TO CONSTABLE HOOD'S OFFICE AND THEY PULL ME OVER.

I'M LIKE OH I'M SO GLAD YOU'RE HERE.

I WAS ABOUT TO GIVE YOU THIS CHECK.

AND SO, IT WAS BROUGHT UP AND I HAD NOT THOUGHT OF IT.

BUT IT DOES PRESENT -- BECAUSE THIS IS A POLICY QUESTION ULTIMATELY.

IT DOES PRESENT AN INTERESTING THOUGHT PROCESS.

AND SO I WAS THINKING THAT MAY BE MAYBE WE COULD FIND ANOTHER WAY TO ACCEPT MONEY OR ITEMS TO THE FRONTLINE THAT IS INDIRECTLY TO THE FRONTLINE, THROUGH AN ASSOCIATION, THROUGH SOMETHING ELSE BECAUSE I AM, AGAIN, IN FULL SUPPORT OF GIVING OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT EVERYTHING THEY NEED AND DESERVE.

NOT ABOUT THAT WHATSOEVER.

THAT'S NOT AN ARGUMENT.

BUT I THINK THE PROCESS YOU SHOULD CONSIDER HAVING ANOTHER MECHANISM OR DOESN'T GO TO THE PRIVATE CITIZEN.

SO THEY DON'T HAVE THEIR CHECK INNER â€" WAITING TO HAND OVER.

WE HAVE THAT NOW.

IF YOU CAN ACCEPT A DONATION DIRECTLY HAS TO COME THROUGH THE AUDITOR'S OFFICE.

WE HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF THAT NOW.

IT HAS TO FOLLOW THROUGH IS FORCED FIRST.

SOME LITTLE I'VE GOTTA TELL YOU AT THE QUESTIONING.

I'VE ALWAYS THOUGHT OF OUR EMPLOYEES WITH THE HIGHEST ETHICAL STANDARDS.

IF THERE IS A CONCERN, WE HAVE PROGRAMS AND POLICIES IN PLACE.

THE STATE OF TEXAS HAS LAWS IN PLACE TO ADDRESS THE SITUATION, SHOULD IT ARISE THAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT.

I WOULD HOPE THAT WE WOULD PROSECUTE THE PERSON TO THE UTMOST ABILITY OF THAT HAPPENED.

AUTOMATICALLY TO ASSUME THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE SOME ETHICAL LAPSE ON BEHALF OF OUR OFFICERS IF WE ACCEPT THE DONATION OF THES BOOTS, IT'S DISHEARTENING, TO SAY THE LEAST.

AND I -- TO THAT POINT, I KNOW THAT I HAVE HIRED OFFICERS -- OFF DUTY OFFICERS OR IF WE HAVE A CHARITABLE FUNCTION, MAYBE THE CHARITY HAVE #NAME? SHOW UP AND WORK THOSE EVENTS.

I GUESS MY QUESTION IS, WOULD WE AUTOMATICALLY ASSUME OR WOULD THERE BE AN ASSUMPTION THAT THOSE FOLKS WOULD HAVE SOME UNDUE INFLUENCE WITH THOSE OFFICERS IN THE FUTURE? I JUST THINK -- I HOLD OUR FOLKS TO A HIGHE ETHICAL BAR THAN THAT.

AND I KNOW THAT THEY ACT VERY PROFESSIONAL AND IT'S A LITTLE DISHEARTENING.

OKAY.

SO FOR CLARIFICATION.

I HAVE NO DOUBT -- I HAVE NO CONCERN WITH OUR CONSTABLES OR THE DEPUTIES.

ZERO, WHATSOEVER.

THE PERCEPTION OF THAT SOMEONE FEELS THAT THEY COULD POTENTIALLY, BENEFIT A POTENTIAL TRANSACTION OF THIS SORT, I'M NOT IMPLYIN THAT HER DEPUTIES WOULD DO ANYTHING WRONG.

IT'S THE CITIZENRY THAT COULD, A PARTICULAR SITUATION LEND ITSELF THAT THEY WOULD FEEL OR THINK THAT THAT COULD HAPPEN OR SOMEONE ELSE COULD INFER.

I HAVE NO DOUBT, FULL CONFIDENCE AND SUPPORT OF ALL OF OUR COUNTY EMPLOYEES.

IT'S NOT ABOUT THE EMPLOYEES.

IT'S ABOUT THE COMMUNITY POTENTIAL, IMPRESSION POTENTIAL.

AND I CAN'T CONTROL THE INFERENCE OF ANYBODY ELSE, BUT I WOULD SAY THAT IF A DEPUTY WAS APPROACH WITH A SITUATION LIKE THAT, I WOULD CERTAINLY HOPE THAT THEY WOULD EITHER ARREST THAT PERSON OR REPOR THEM OR TAKE THE NECESSARY STEPS AGAINST THAT PERSON.

BUT I -- I DON'T KNOW THAT WE CAN CONTROL ANYONE'S INFERENCE ON WHAT IS RIGHT AND WRONG.

I MAY BE WRONG.

I WON'T SAY MORE COMMENTS.

I BELIEVE THAT THE CURRENT POLICY THEY CAN'T ACCEPT A CONTRIBUTION DIRECTLY.

IS THAT TRUE? (AWAY FROM MIC).

YES.

THEY WOULD DISCLOSE ANYTHING.

WE ASK THAT THIS -- IF THEY WERE GOING TO -- IF THE INDIVIDUAL WAS GOING TO PROVIDE A DONATION, THAT HE COME THROUGH COMMISSIONERS COURT BECAUSE

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THERE IS STATE STATUTE THAT REQUIRES THAT.

ONCE THAT DONATION IS ACCEPTED, AND THE COUNTY EXPANDS ON THE BOOTS WITHOUT SALES TAX -- BECAUSE THE COUNTY DOES NOT PAY TAX, THEN THOSE BOOTS SHOULD BECOME AN ASSET OF THE COUNTY.

AND SO THAT WAS OUR CONCERN IS THAT THE INDIVIDUAL UNDERSTOOD THAT.

THOSE ARE COUNTY ASSETS IF YOU'D LIKE TO TAKE THEM TO CORPORATE HAVE TO MAKE THAT DECISION.

IS THAT WHAT WE DO WITH THE OTHER BOOTS WE PAY FOR SUCH AS IN THE TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT OR DO WE GIVE THEM A STIPEND.

THE TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT IS BUDGETED.

THAT IS -- THOSE BOOTS ARE BUDGETED TO A REGULAR BUDGET PROCESS.

THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THEM AND THE CONSTABLES IS THAT THE CONSTABLES GET A UNIFORM ALLOWANCE.

I WILL JUST EXPEND ONE TINY THING AND THEN WE WILL CALL THOUGH.

I FULLY SUPPORT -- ONE LAST TIME EVERYTHING THAT IN THE CONSTABLES OFFICE AND I DO NOT WANT ANYONE TO MISCONSTRUE MY MESSAGING AND LINEUP OF QUESTIONS OF ANYTHING BUT FULL SUPPORT OF.

JUST THINKING -- ADDRESSING QUESTIONS AND CONCERNS THAT PEOPLE HAVE HAD.

BUDGET SEASON IS COMING RIGHT BACK AND I THINK WE HAVE INCONSISTENCIES WITH DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS AS WE ARE NOW NOTICING AND DISCOVERING, YOU AND I BOTH AS THE NEWEST COURT MEMBERS.

AND I THINK IT'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US DURIN THE BUDGET PROCESS TO HAVE A UNIFIED AND CONSISTENT PROCESS SO THAT EVERYTHING TIED TO SOMEONE'S SAFETY AND OPERATION, ETC., IS AUTOMATICALLY INCLUDED BECAUSE IT SHOULD NOT COST THEM MONEY TO DO THEIR JOB IN MY OPINION.

SO IF THERE'S NO OTHER COMMENTS, I WILL CAL THE ROLL.

(ROLL CALL).

I WAS ASKED TO PULL NUMBER 15.

IS THERE ANYONE HERE TO SPEAK ON AGENDA AND ITEM 15.

[15. Approve specifications for IFB 2020-B05 US 290 Temporary Signal at Trautwein Road and authorize Purchasing to solicit for bids and advertise. ]

EVEN THOUGH IT WAS PULLED, IF YOU'RE HERE T SPEAK ON IT, I'LL LET YOU.

OKAY.

[Items 12 - 14]

PLEASE OPEN 12 THROUGH 14.

12, APPROVED THE APPOINTMENT OF ANITA COLLINS TO REPLACE CAITLIN STRICKLAND ON THE SAN MARCOS MAIN STREET ADVISORY BOARD, A THREE-YEAR TERM ENDING FEBRUARY 28, 2023.

13 AUTHORIZE THE COUNTY JUDGE EXECUTE A PURCHASE, SALE AND SERVICE AGREEMENT WITH PACESETTER K-9 FOR A K-9 APPROVED IN THE FY 2020 BUDGET.

14, AUTHORIZE THE SUBMISSION OF A RENEWA INTERLOCAL APPLICATION WITH THE TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF STATE HEALTH SERVICES, FOR THE IMMUNIZATION LOCALS PROGRAM FY 21 IN THE AMOUNT OF $192,341.

ALMOST.

SECOND.

WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

ARE THERE ANY COMMENTS, COMMISSIONERS? I WANT TO THANK ANITA COLLINS FROM YOUR OFFICE.

I REALLY APPRECIATE HER WILLINGNESS TO STEP UP AND SERVE ON THE MAIN STREET BOARD.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

WOULD YOU LIKE TO SAY SOMETHING? I WANT TO MAKE SURE? YES, MA'AM.

I WOULD LIKE TO ADD FOR ITEM NUMBER 13 AND AMEND THE BUDGET ACCORDINGLY, WE ARE MOVING FROM THE SHERIFF'S OPERATING AENON CAPITAL EQUIPMENT LINE ITEM WHICH WOULD CALL EQUIPMENT OPERATING INTO EQUIPMENT CAPITAL LINE ITEM WHICH WOULD REQUIRE A BUDGET AMENDMENT AND THAT WAS NOT INCLUDED IN THE AGENDA.

SO IT SHOULD INCLUDE AT A AND DEMAND THE BUDGET ACCORDINGLY.

ARE YOU OKAY WITH THAT? AND THE SECOND STILL STANDS? YES.

OKAY.

PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

(ROLL CALL).

.

PLEASE OPEN NUMBER 16.

[16. Discussion and possible action to select Binkley & Barfield Engineering to perform detailed design engineering services for improvements to Windy Hill Road from Kyle City limits to FM 2001; and authorize staff and counsel to negotiate a contract.]

DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO SELEC ANGLIAN PARKDALE ENGINEERING TO PERFORM DETAILED DESIGN ENGINEERING SERVICES FOR IMPROVEMENTS TO WINDY HILL ROAD FROM KYLE CITY LIMITS TO FM 2001 AND AUTHORIZED STAFF AND COUNSEL TO NEGOTIATE A CONTRACT.

AND JUDGE I BELIEVE THIS IS THE SECOND STEP FOR US TO GET THIS CONTRACT APPROVED.

I THINK THEY'VE GOT ABOUT 30 PERCENT DESIG RIGHT NOW THIS WILL TAKE US UP TO CITY ON A ROAD THAT WE DESPERATELY NEED TO GET SOME IMPROVEMENTS ON AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE.

SO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE.

SECOND.

AND WE DO HAVE APPROVAL.

I HAVE A MOTION SECOND.

ARE THERE ANY OTHER COMMENTS? MR. BORCHERDING DID YOU WANT ADDED THINK HE.

NO.

LIKE THE COMMISSIONERS AT OUR FIRST PHASE OF THE SCHEMATIC IS COMPLETED WE ARE READY TO GO FORWARD TO A DESIGN.

THANK YOU, SIR.

PLEASE CALL THE ROLL, DOCTOR CARDENAS.

(ROLL CALL).

17 PLEASE OPEN 17.

[17. Discussion and possible action to consider the acceptance of road construction and drainage improvements, release of the subdivision/performance bond #PB03010404555 in the amount of $2,487,195.15, and acceptance of the 2-year Maintenance Bond #PB03016800230M in the amount of $121,243.00 for Campo Del Sol Parkway. ]

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17 DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION TO CONSIDER THE ACCEPTANCE OF ROAD CONSTRUCTION AND DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENTS, RELEASE OF THE SUBDIVISION PERFORMANCE BOND NUMBER PB03010404555 IN THE AMOUNT OF $2,487,000 $195.15, AND ACCEPTANCE OF THE TWO-YEAR MAINTENANCE FUND BOND NUMBER PB030168000230M IN THE AMOUNT OF $121,243 FOR CAMPO DEL SOL PARKWAY.

AND JUDGE I BELIEVE WE HAVE STAFF RECOMMENDATION FOR THIS ALMOST TO IMPROVE.

SECOND.

WE HAVE A MOTION IN TWO SECONDS.

ANY OTHER COMMENTS MR., BORCHERDING? THIS IS OUR STANDARD RELEASING AND ACCEPTING OF BONDS AS NEEDED.

THANK YOU.

DR. CARDENAS, WILL YOU CALL THE ROLL? (ROLL CALL).

WILL YOU PLEASE OPEN 18.

[18. Discussion and possible action to adopt the Early Voting Schedule (Dates & Times) for the March 3, 2020 Primary Elections. ]

18, DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION TO ADOPT THE EARLY VOTING SCHEDULE, DATES AND TIMES, FOR THE MARCH 3, 2020 PRIMARY ELECTIONS.

OKAY.

A MOTION? ALMOST.

SECOND.

WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND AND NOW WE ARE OPEN FOR COMMENTS.

AND THEN JUDGE, I WAS GOING TO SAY THAT I KNOW THAT WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT THIS IN THE PAST AND WE WANT TO BE AS CONSISTENT AS POSSIBLE AS TO NOT CAUSE ANY CONFUSION, THAT A BELIEF THAT MS. ANDERSON RECEIVE SOME COMMUNICATION FROM SOME OF THE LOCATIONS -- THE LOCATIONS AND I WILL LET HER EXPLAIN WHAT'S GOING ON.

THANK YOU.

GOOD MORNING COURT.

THIS IS BECAUSE THE COURT IS -- OR THE COUNT IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE EARLY VOTING FOR THE PRIMARY ON MARCH 3.

SO YOU WOULD ADOPT THE HOURS AND DATES WHICH ARE PRETTY STATUTORY BUT THERE IS ONE CHANGE THAT I'D LIKE TO BRING TO YOUR ATTENTION.

SO SINCE MONDAY, THE 17TH EARLY VOTING WILL START THE 18TH SO YOUR MOTION SHOULD INCLUDE THAT CHANGE IN THE SCHEDULE THAT YOU ARE PRESENTED WITH.

IN ADDITION, THE PENTECOSTAL CHURCH IS CALLED TO SAY THAT THEY CANNOT COMMIT TO THE FULL TWO WEEKS OF EARLY VOTING.

SO, I WILL RECOMMEND JUDGMENT DAY WIL STAND FOR ELECTION DAY, BUT WILL NOT BE ABLE TO DO EARLY VOTING.

IN ADDITION TO THAT, TOPOL MIDDLE SCHOOL IS UP FOR DISCUSSION AGAIN.

SO I HAVE AN EMAIL THAT I RECEIVED FROM TIM SAVOY YESTERDAY ASKING AND URGING US TO PLEASE NOT USE THAT -- OR RECOMMEND THAT LOCATION -- FOR EARLY VOTING.

THE REASON BEING THAT THE ONLY PLACE THEY HAVE TO VOTE IS THE LIBRARY AND THAT MEANS SHUTTING THE LIBRARY DOWN FOR TWO WEEKS.

BECAUSE OF THAT, IN THE LAST ELECTION, WE WERE IN A POLLING LOCATION THAT I FEAR AS THE ELECTION DEMONSTRATOR PUTS AT RISK FOR ADA VIOLATION.

I WANT TO KEEP THAT IN MIND I WOULD RECOMMEND NOT HAVING THAT LOCATION AS WELL.

NOW, I DID TALK WITH CAITLIN YESTERDAY AN SHE OFFERED UP THE ARLINGTON, WHICH COULD REPLACE THAT AND ALSO KEEP US IN BALANCE ON THAT PRECINCT 1 EFFORT.

SO MY RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE TO NOT USE AN CHOP ON YOUR LIST BUT TO USE YERINGTON.

MCCORMICK MIDDLE SCHOOL IS ONLY A LITTLE OVER A MILE AND ON THE SAME ROAD.

AND THE ADMIN BUILDING AS WELL.

A LITTLE BIT THE MAY BE DIFFERENCE.

IT COULD BE A HUGE INCONVENIENCE ESPECIALLY IF WE CAN VOTE ANYWHERE ON ELECTION DAY.

AND THEN I THINK -- AND I APPRECIATE CAITLI OFFERING UP THE YERINGTON SITE.

PEOPLE ARE NOT ACCUSTOMED -- WELL, WITH SA GUESS PEOPLE ARE ACCUSTOMED TO GOING THERE FOR PERMITTING AND ALL AND SO WE MAY GET SOME TRAFFIC FOR VOTING THERE, BUT UNTIL IT BECOMES MORE FAMILIAR.

IT IS BETWEEN THE BOUNDARY OF SAN MARCUS AND KYLE.

AND SO IT MAY BE A GOOD OPTION.

BUT I KNOW THAT THE COMMISSION THAT WAS FORMED IS LOOKING AT VOTING LOCATION SITES.

I'M HOPING THAT THEY CAN COME UP WITH SOME OTHER LOCATION.

I KNOW THAT WE TRIED TO JENNIFER ALL THE WORK THAT YOU HAVE DONE BUT WE WILL CONTINUE TO LOOK FOR LOCATIONS ON THE SID OF 85.

I THINK THAT THE ARLINGTON LOCATION, WHIL IT MAY NOT BE THE BUSIEST PLACE, I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF GROWTH GOING ON IN THAT AREA.

SO I THINK ESSENTIALLY, DOWN THE ROAD, IT WOULD BE A GOOD LOCATION TO HAVE.

MS. ANDERSON, HAVE YOU RAN THIS BY THE CITIZENS ELECTION COMMISSION?

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AND IF SO, WHAT ARE THEIR THOUGHTS? I HAVE NOT.

THIS INFORMATION CAME IN YESTERDAY.

SO, NO.

I HAVE NOT.

BUT WE DO NEED TO GET THIS ADOPTED BECAUS WE HAVE DEADLINES TO MEET.

JUDGE HE.

THE OTHER THING I WOULD SAY -- AND WE DISCUSSED THIS WILL SET UP THE CITIZENS ADVISORY PANEL.

IF YOU REMEMBER, THAT THE MARCH ELECTIONS AS BEING THE PRIMARIES, THOSE LOCATIONS ARE AGREED UPON INITIALLY.

WE ARE FORTUNATE THAT OUR PARTIES WORK TOGETHER PRETTY WELL AND TRYING TO SELECT THOSE LOCATIONS AND RECOMMENDING THEM.

AND SO, I COMMAND THE DEMOCRATIC CHAIR AND THE REPUBLICAN CHAIR FROM OUR COUNTY FOR BRINGING US A LIST OF LOCATIONS THAT AR ACCEPTABLE.

THE ONE THING THAT I WILL SAY, IS AS WE LOOK AT THESE LOCATIONS, I HOPE TO -- THAT OUR CITIZEN ADVISORY PANEL WILL LOOK AT SOME ADDITIONAL LOCATIONS IN MY PRECINCT FOR THE NOVEMBE ELECTION.

AND POSSIBLY, LOOK AT -- AND I KNOW THIS MIGHT SOUND LIKE SACRILEGE, BUT THE CHANGING -- AT LEAST ONE OF THE LOCATIONS IN DRIPPING SPRINGS.

AND I SAY THAT IS BECAUSE WHENEVER WE POST A POLLING SPOT IN DRIPPING SPRINGS, OUR JUSTICE OF THE PEACE OFFICE â€" MAKE THIS YEAR, FOR EXAMPLE WITH THREE WEEKS -- OR TWO WEEKS OF EARLY VOTING THREE TIMES A CLOSES FOR MONTH AND A-HALF.

IT IS NOT REALLY -- WE HAVE CITIZENS -- IS THE MOST USED POLLING'S PLACE IN DRIPPING SPRINGS.

AND FOR THAT REASON I WANT TO KEEP IT THERE.

THE PROBLEM IS IF YOU'RE LOOKING FOR JUSTICE IN THE J PRECINCT IN PRECINCT 4 YOU'LL HAVE TO WAIT.

ONE THING WE HAVE TO DO IS NOT EXACERBATED ANY ISSUES THAT WE HAVE.

SO IT'S A CONCERN.

I WANT TO BRING IT UP.

I'VE TALKED TO THE JUDGE THEY ARE AND ARE WILLING TO MOVE THE DOCKET EACH TIME BUT IT'S HARDER AND HARDER THE MORE RESIDENTS W HAVE IN THAT AREA TO PROVIDE ADEQUATE JUSTICE THERE IF WE HAVE TO SHUT DOWN FOR MONTH AND A-HALF.

YOU'RE NOT ALONE IN THAT.

THE CITY ALSO DOESN'T WISH TO BE EARLY VOTING FOR ELECTION DAY FOR THE PRIMARY SO WERE LOOKING FOR THAT TO BE IN DRIPPING SPRINGS RANCH.

INSIDE RETREATS -- CYBER CREEK CHURCH DOESN'T WISH TO BE A POLLING SITE AND WOULD LIKE TO REMAIN IN THE NOVEMBER ELECTIONS WHICH OFFSETS OUR FOCUS AND TRYING TO BE CONSISTENT WE HAVE OUR FULL -- POLLING LOCATIONS IN THE SAME PLACE.

WE MAY LOOK BACK AT COMING BACK TO THE PRECINCT THREE OFFICE.

ANY OTHER COMMENTS? I JUST WANTED JERRY AND KALIN TO MAKE SURE THAT WHEN YERINGTON IS USED THAT WE DESIGNATE PARKING.

THE PARKING CAN GET FULL.

JUST MAKE SURE WE GET THE EMPLOYEES NOTIFIED TO PARK IN THE BACK AND WE HAVE ADEQUATE RESERVE PARKING FOR OUR CITIZENS TO VOTE.

COORDINATE THAT, IF Y'ALL DON'T MIND.

I HAVE ONE QUESTION FOR MS. ANDERSON.

IN THE PRIMARIES, WE ALSO -- DO THEY HAVE TO BE BALANCED AMONGST PRECINCTS THE SAME WAY THAT THE GENERAL DOES? IN OTHER WORDS, CAN THERE NOT BE MORE THAN TWO TIMES VOTING LOCATIONS ONE PRECINCT THAN THE OTHER? YES.

BOTH CENTERS ARE ESTABLISHED ALL THE TIME.

AND WHEN WE SET THEM, WE SET THEM FOR TWO YEARS.

WE COME BEFORE YOU WITH REVISIONS TO THAT WHICH WE WILL DO FOR NOVEMBER.

SO, YES.

OKAY.

DR. CARDENAS, WILL YOU CALL THE ROLL? YES.

(ROLL CALL).

EARLY VOTING WOULD START FEBRUARY 18 REFIGURED 28 AND REMOVING THE PENTECOSTAL CHURCH IN CHOPPER MIDDLE SCHOOL AND ADDING THE YERINGTON SITE LOCATION.

THANK YOU FOR THE REMINDER THAT CLARIFICATION TO BE READY.

AND THAT SECOND STILL STANDS? AS.

AND CAN YOU START ABOUT ONE MORE TIME.

YES.

(ROLL CALL).

WOULD YOU PLEASE OPEN 19.

19, DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO AUTHORIZE INFORMATION

[19. Discussion and possible action to authorize the Information Technology (IT) Department to have their temporary office space reconfigured in the amount of $4,500 and amend the budget accordingly. ]

TECHNOLOGY DEPARTMENT TO HAVE THEIR TEMPORARY OFFIC SPACE RECONFIGURED IN THE AMOUNT OF $4500 AND AMEND THE BUDGET ACCORDINGLY.

NOW, ON THIS AGENDA ITEM, IN AGENDA PREP, WE WERE TOLD THAT MORE INFORMATION WAS GOING TO FOLLOW FOR A DOORWAY AND I DON'T REMEMBER SEEING IT.

SO MS. CRUMLEY I WAS DEBATING WITH FOLKS IF WE WERE GOING TO INCLUDE A DOOR OR IF IT WAS GOING TO BE AN OPENING.

AND SO, IF YOU WILL PLEASE EXPLAIN THE AGEND ITEM AND JUST SPEAK INTO THE MIC.

OKAY.

SO IT'S NOT JUST A DOORWAY.

WHAT'S HAPPENING IS IF YOU KNOW THE CURRENT CONFIGURATION OF THE IT

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FRONT OFFICE, THEY'RE GOING TO LOSE THEIR CURRENT LOBBY AREA.

IT'S GOING TO BE -- A WALL IS GOING TO BE PUT U AND ESSENTIALLY BE -- IT WAS THE COUNTYWIDE'S OPERATIONS OFFICE IS GOING TO HAVE 1/3 OFFICE BUILDING.

SO A DOORWAY IS GOING TO BE CUTTING TO - INTO THE RIGHT WHEN YOU WALK INTO THE DOORWAY.

AND A NEW OFFICE IS GOING TO BE BUILT.

IT'S JUST TAKING THE CURRENT IT WAITING ROOM.

SO WHEN YOU GO INTO IT, THERE'S JUST GOING TO BE A SMALL HALLWAY FROM THE FIRST DOOR TO THE SECOND DOOR.

AND THERE WILL BE A NEW OFFICE BUILT, ESSENTIALLY IN COUNTYWIDE OPERATIONS.

THERE WILL BE ONE OF THE REGULAR DOORS, FROM THE GOVERNMENT CENTER, $12-$1500.

AND THEN, YOU KNOW, BUILDING A WALL -- BUILDING A NEW OFFICE, DATA LINES DROP, ELECTRICAL OUTLETS PUT IN, SO WHEN WE BUILD OUT.

BEAUTIFUL.

THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING BECAUSE I WAS UNDER THE IMPRESSION IT WAS A DOOR/DOORWAY AND THAT WAS TOO MUCH MONEY FOR THAT ONE ITEM.

SO THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING.

WILL BE USING THAT FOR THEIR TRAINING THAT'S GOING ON.

THERE'S JUST NOT ENOUGH SPACE.

PERFECT.

WE BEEN OVER THERE WERE CRAMPED.

TOTALLY SEE IT.

NOW I UNDERSTAND BETTER.

THANK YOU, MA'AM.

JUDGE, I WILL MAKE THE MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM NUMBER 19.

SECOND.

WE HAVE A MOTION IN A SECOND.

ARE THERE ANY OTHER COMMENTS? PLEASE, CALL THE ROLL.

(ROLL CALL).

PLEASE OPEN AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 20.

[20. Discussion and possible action to authorize the Hays County Constable, Pct. 4 to purchase two (2) rifle mounts valued at $1,900 for the Constable's Motors Unit. ]

20, DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION TO AUTHORIZE THE HAYS COUNTY CONSTABLE, PRECINCT 4, TO PURCHASE TO RIVAL MOUNT VALUED AT $1900 FOR THE CONSTABLES MOTOR UNIT.

THANK YOU.

COMMISSIONER, WE GIVE YOU THE HONOR IT'S YOUR AGENDA ITEM.

SO IF YOU'RE LOOKING TO BACKUP IS SELF-EXPLANATORY.

IN THE BUDGET WE OF APPLIED TO HARLEY-DAVIDSON MOTORCYCLES FOR THE CONSTABLES OFFICE AND PART OF EQUIPPIN THAT, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT ARE NEEDED AS A RIFLEMAN FOR EACH OF THOSE AND THIS COVERS BOTH THE ACQUISITION OF THE RIVAL MOUNTS AS WELL AS HER INSTALLATION ON THE NEW UNITS.

BEAUTIFUL.

ARE THERE ANY OTHER COMMENTS? I THINK WE WENT BACKWARDS.

IT'S A MOTION FIRST.

SORRY.

JUDGE I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE TO AUTHORIZE THE HAYS COUNTY CONSTABLE PRECINCT TO PURCHASE TO RIVAL MOUNTS VALUED AT $190 FOR THE CONSTABLES MOTOR UNITS AND AMEND THE BUDGET ACCORDINGLY.

SECOND.

WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND.

ARE THERE ANY OTHER COMMENTS? ONE COMMENT.

IS ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WANTS TO BU THESE BEFORE WE VOTE (LAUGHING) QUITE CELIBATE.

THAT'S A LONG DISCUSSION.

ALL EXTENDED DISCUSSION OF FURTHER.

BECAUSE I CREATED THAT AGENDA ITEM REALLY -- ORIGINALLY AND WHEN WE ORIGINALLY CREATED THAT, MOTOR UNIT -- I'M A BIG FAN OF MOTORS CONTRARY TO SOME BELIEFS, AND I WANTED TO FULLY EQUIP THEM, BUT THE CONSTABLES OFFICE, WHEN BRINGING THIS FORTH, FROM THE TIME THEY BROUGHT IT FORWARD TO WHEN THE STATE CREATED -- FOR LACK OF A BETTER DESCRIPTIO BY BOARD FOR PROCESS THERE WAS A SMALL DISCREPANCY.

THIS WAS LEFT OUT UNINTENTIONALLY BY THE COURT AND BY THE CONSTABLES.

SO THAT'S WHAT THAT WAS ABOUT AND THAT'S WHY WERE TAKING THIS CORRECTIVE ACTION PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

(ROLL CALL).

THANK YOU FOR ENDURING WORD PLEASE OPEN AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 21.

21 DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION TO AUTHORIZE A COUNTY JUDGE TO

[21. Discussion and possible action to authorize the County Judge to execute a Statement of Work and Participating Addendum with Securus Technologies, Inc. utilizing the National Association of State Procurement Officials (NASPO) ValuePoint Master Agreement related to Inmate Kiosks and Communications at the Jail Facility. ]

EXECUTE A STATEMENT OF WORK AND PARTICIPATING ADDENDUM WITH SECURE IS TECHNOLOGIES, INCORPORATED UTILIZING THE NATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF STATE PROCUREMENT OFFICIALS, VALUE POINT MASTER AGREEMENT, RELATED TO INMATE KIOSKS AND COMMUNICATIONS AT THE JAI FACILITY.

ALREADY.

COMMISSIONERS, DO WE HAVE A MOTION AND THEN WILL GO TO COMMENTS? DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT.

OKAY.

WE.

NO.

WITH THAT, I WOULD LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND MOVE TO EXECUTE A STATEMENT OF WORK AND PARTICIPATING ADDENDUM WITH SECURE IS TECHNOLOGIES USING THE NATIONAL -- COMMUNICATIONS AT HER CURRENT JAIL FACILITY.

SECOND.

WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND AND NOW WE ARE AND COMMENTS.

COMMISSIONER JONES? NO I JUST WANT TO SECOND IT.

ANY OTHER COMMENTS? I CAN -- IF IT'S ALL RIGHT I MIGHT ANSWER SOME QUESTIONS THAT WERE

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ASKED.

ONE WAS WHY I SPONSORED, I GUESS IT WAS IN DECEMBER NOT TODAY? I WAS NOT ASKED TO SPONSOR THE AGENDA ITEM FOR TODAY.

IT'S PROBABLY A QUESTION I CAN ASK THE CAPTAIN OR THE SHERIFF OR GENERAL COUNSEL'S OFFICE.

I KNOW THEY'VE BEEN WORKING ON IT.

THE TERM, PUSH WAS USED.

I COULD PROBABLY GO THROUGH THIS AGENDA NASTIES -- ASK EACH AGENDA AFTER PUSHING WHAT THEY'RE SPONSORING.

THESE ARE ISSUES THAT ARE JAIL STAFF ARE TRYING TO SOLVE.

WE HAVE TO PROVIDE COMMUNICATION FOR THE INMATES.

THIS IS WHAT THEY'VE COME UP WITH.

WHEN THEY ASK A COMMISSIONER TO SPONSOR THAT ITEM, THAT IS ALLOWING THEM TO PUT THAT ON THE AGENDA FOR DISCUSSION.

I DON'T -- WE CAN ASK THE CAPTAIN WHY SHE DID NOT ASK ME TO SPONSOR IT AND IT MAY BE BECAUSE IT SEEMS LIKE THESE GUYS ANYTIMEIF I SPONSOR ANYTHING THESE DAYS IT'S LIKE A POLITICAL.

I LOOK AT THIS AS DOING THE BUSINESS OF TH COUNTY.

IT'S SOMETHING WE HAVE TO DO FOR OUR NEW JAIL TO OPEN TO BE WITHIN JAIL STANDARDS.

SO WHETHER THIS IS A SOLUTION OR IF THERE'S ANOTHER SOLUTION I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US TO DISCUSS AND GO THROUGH.

THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING THAT.

I APPRECIATED.

I TWO GET ASKED TO SPONSOR AGENDA ITEMS AND THAT'S MY CUE, LUCKILY BECAUSE VERY OFTEN, I AM LEFT OUT OF THE CONVERSATION AND SO PERSONALLY, I TAKE THAT MOMENT TO ASK QUESTIONS, SIMPLY SO THAT WHEN I GET ASKED I HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE A PROPER RESPONSE.

BUT I WOULD LIKE TO CALL THE SHERIFF OR THE CAPTAIN, WHOEVER WOULD LIKE TO TAKE THE PODIUM AND HAVE SOME QUESTIONS ASKED O THEM.

GOOD MORNING, JUDGING COMMISSIONERS.

BEFORE I TURN IT OVER TO THE CAPTAIN, THEY HAVE BEEN WORKING ON THIS FOR SOME TIME NOW.

I'D LIKE TO MAKE A QUICK COMMENT.

SECURITY IS HAS BEEN A PART OF THE JAIL SECURITY SINCE 2007.

IT WAS DONE BEFORE I GOT THERE.

I'VE HAD A SUCCESSFUL RELATIONSHIP WIT THEM SINCE I TOOK OFFICE IN 2010.

I WENT TO THEM A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO AND ASKED THEM TO HIS INSTALL VISITATION EQUIPMENT BY VIDEO.

THEY DID THAT SO INMATES COULD USE VIDEO TO TALK TO THE FAMILY THAT COULD NOT COME DOWN ON DAYS AND MEET THEM IN PERSON.

IT'S BEEN SUCCESSFUL.

I'VE HAD A SUCCESSFUL RELATIONSHIP WITH THEM.

ONE THING I NEED TO BE CLEAR ON IS I DO NOT WANT THE PUBLIC OR QUARTER ANYBODY THAT YOU SHOULD KNOW THAT THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT DOES NOT GET ANY BENEFITS, ANY REVENUE THAT IS GENERATED FROM TH SECURUS PHONE SERVICES.

NONE.

HE GOES TO GENERAL FUNDS.

SO SOMEONE THINKS THE MONEY IS GOING TO THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT, THAT'S NOT TRUE.

WE DON'T COLLECT THE MONEY.

WE DON'T SEE THE MONEY.

THERE IS NO MONEY COMING TO THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT FROM SECURUS.

THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING THAT I APPRECIATED.

I HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS WRITTEN DOWN.

I DON'T KNOW WHO WILL BE BEST EQUIPPED TO ANSWER THEM, BUT A TON OF CONCERNS WERE SHOT BY WAY.

A TON OF THEM.

WHEN THIS AGENDA ITEM CAME UP I WAS ULTIMATELY ASKED TO PULL IT ON MY PHONE AND EVERY WAY OF COMMUNICATING WITH ME WA JUST BLOWING UP.

I GOTTA BE HONEST.

I DIDN'T EVEN KNOW WHO SECURUS WAS.

I DIDN'T.

I JUST WANT TO ASK JUST A LITTLE SUE CAN HELP ME MOVE THROUGH SOME OF THIS.

MIGHT.

JUDGE, CAN I RESPECTFULLY JUST PRESENT M INFORMATION MAY BE SOME YOUR QUESTIONS MAY BE ANSWERED IN MY PRESENTATION.

PERFECTLY FINE.

I DO THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO MAKE SURE THA WE DO PROVIDE THE CORRECT INFORMATION AND PUT IT OUT THERE, THE CORRECT INFORMATION.

SO, WHAT I WAS ASKING THE COURT TO DO TODAY IS THAT I WANT TO ENTER INTO A NEW CONTRACT WITH SECURUS TECHNOLOGIES, USING THE CO-OP CONTRACT ONLY THREE AND HALF YEARS.

THERE'S MANY WAYS FOR FAMILIES TO COMMUNICATE WITH THEIR LOVED ONES WHILE THEY ARE INCARCERATED.

THEY CAN DO IT BY PHONE.

VIDEO MONITOR, IN PERSON AND BY MAIL.

AS YOU KNOW, THE CURRENT PHONE RATE IS $5.01 FOR THE CONNECT -- TO MAKE THAT CONNECTION.

AND THEN AFTER THAT IS $0.36 A MINUTE, WHICH IS TOTALING $10.41 FOR A 15 MINUTE PHONE CALL.

BY PROVING THIS CONTRACT TODAY, WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO LOWER THE PHONE RATE TO $0.32 A MINUTE FOR A 15 MINUTE PHONE CALL WILL BE $4.80.

THIS GIVES THE SAVINGS TO THE FAMILY $5.61 FOR A 51 MINUTE CALL.

THE VIDEO VISITS WILL REMAIN THE SAME WHICH IS $5.95 FOR A 20 MINUTE VIDEO VISIT.

AGAIN WE NEED TO REITERATE THAT IN PERSO VISITS HAPPENING HAYS COUNTY.

THEY ARE FREE TO THE FAMILIES IF THEY CHOOSE NOT TO CALL HAVE A VIDEO VISIT.

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WITH THIS CONTRACT WRITING A VIDEO TO THE JAIL EXPANSION.

THE SYSTEM IS POORLY HIT INMATES TO COMMIT â€" COMMUNITY WITH THE FAMILY.

CURRENTLY, WE HAVE ONE PHONE THAT WE HAVE TO WALK THE INMATE UP TO THE MAIN BOOKING AREA FOR THEM TO BE ABLE TO USE THAT PHONE.

THIS WILL ALLOW US TO DO IT FROM THE VIDEO KIOSK, NO MATTER WHERE THEY'RE LOCATED IN THE JAIL FACILITY.

AGAIN, SOMETHING THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO US IS THE INMATE LAW LIBRARY.

WITH THIS CONTRACT, THE CASE MAKER APPLICATION WILL BE LOADED ON THOSE VIDEO UNITS.

WE WILL NO LONGER HAVE TO WALK THE INMATE, SCHEDULE THE INMATES, REMAIN WITH THE INMATE WHILE THEY RESEARCH THEIR LEGAL CASES.

THIS INFORMATION WILL BE AVAILABLE ON THOSE KIOSKS IN THE INMATE LIVING AREAS THAT THEY ARE IN.

AND RIGHT NOW, AND THE AUDITOR CAN VERIFY, PAST YEARS, IT'S COSTING HAYS COUNTY TAXPAYERS $10,000 TO HAVE THE CURRENT SYSTEM THAT WE HAVE NOW.

, INCLUDED IN THIS, WE WILL HAVE AIS WHICH IS A AUTOMATED DISTRIBUTION OF CERTAIN INFORMATION TO THE TELEPHONE SYSTEM.

IT IS A PHONE TREE THAT AUTOMATES INMATE AND FACILITY INFORMATION WHEN THEY CALL THE MAIN NUMBER.

WE WILL BE ABLE TO PROVIDE BOND AMOUNTS OR VISITATION INFORMATION.

SO, I GUESS, ANOTHER THING THAT I WANT TO SPEAK ABOUT SECURUS IS THAT I CAN ONLY SPEAK TO THE SERVICE THAT I'VE SEEN DURING MY TENURE AS THE CAPTAIN.

WHAT I WILL SAY IS THEY ARE THE UNDISPUTED LEADER IN THIS INDUSTRY.

THEY HAVE ALWAYS BEEN RESPONSIVE TO OUR NEEDS AND THEIR GENERAL TURNAROUND IS THE SAME DAY OR THE NEXT DAY.

THERE THE MOST EXPERIENCED VENDOR IN TH PHONE SERVICE.

THEY WERE FOUNDED IN 1986 THE END THEY HAVE OVER 30 YEARS OF SERVICE IN THIS INDUSTRY.

THEY ARE CURRENTLY SERVING 3450 AGENCIES IN THE UNITED STATES AND THEY EMPLOY OVER 1300 ASSOCIATES FOR THEIR CUSTOMERS NEEDS.

THEY HAVE THE MOST COMPETITOR WINDS AND GROWTH AND THEY TRAIN OUR EMPLOYEES ON HOW TO USE THEIR PRODUCT.

THEY'RE LOCATED IN TEXAS.

AND GENERALLY, THEY PROVIDE THEIR APPLICATIONS IN BOTH ENGLISH AND SPANISH.

AND TO MY KNOWLEDGE, WE HAVE HAD NO COMPLAINTS FROM THE INMATES OR THEIR FAMILIES REGARDING THE PRODUCTS OF SECURUS.

AGAIN, SECURUS HAS PROVEN THEIR SERVICE TO HAYS COUNTY BY PROVIDING A QUICK RESPONSE TO OUR NEEDS AND REPAIRS AND REPLACE OF INMATE BONES AND EQUIPMENT.

CONSTRUCTION TIME IS VERY IMPORTANT TO US.

WE NEED THE PHONES INSTALLED IN THE NEW EXPANSION TO MOVE THE INMATES FROM THE OLD JAIL INTO THE NEW AREA SO THE CONSTRUCTION TIMELINE CAN CONTINUE.

AND WE CAN BEGIN RENOVATION OF THAT AREA.

THE EQUIPMENT INFRASTRUCTURE IS ALREADY I PLACE IN THE EXISTING FACILITY.

AND SOMETHING ELSE TO CONSIDER, IF WE WERE TO CHOOSE TO GO TO ANOTHER COMPANY, WITH -- ODYSSEY IS ALREADY INTERFACED WITH SECURUS.

WE CHOOSE SOMEONE ELSE, CAN COST THE TAXPAYERS ANOTHER $30,000 TO GET THAT DONE.

SO BY NOT ENTERING INTO THIS CONTRACT, THE EQUIPMENT, THE STRUCTURE, IT INCLUDES THE PHONE LINES AND WORK SYSTEM WILL BE NEED TO BE PULLED OUT AND REPLACE.

THIS WILL DELAY THE PROJECT AND NOT APPROVING THIS CONTRACT TODAY, THE PHONE RATES WILL REMAIN THE SAME, COSTING THE FAMILIES $10.41 FOR A 15 MINUTE PHONE CALL UNTIL HIS CONTRACT EXPIRES.

AND AGAIN, I WANT TO REITERATE THAT WHAT THE SHERIFF HAD SAID, WE HAVE NEVER RECEIVED A REVENUE GENERATED BY THIS CONTRACT.

THE FUNDS HAVE ALWAYS BEEN DEPOSITED INTO THE GENERAL FUND TO OFFSET THE COUNTY BUDGET.

AT NO TIME HAVE WE BEEN ASKED TO REQUEST REPORTS FOR EDITING PURPOSES IN THE PAST.

HOWEVER, WE HAVE TAKEN THE STEPS NECESSARY TO ENSURE THAT THAT HAS HAPPENED AND I BELIEVE THE AUDITOR CAN ATTEST TO THAT.

AND AGAIN, IT IS OUR HOPE THAT YOU WILL PARTNER WITH US AND LOWER THE INMATE PHONE RATES PROVIDE ADDITIONAL SERVICES TO OUR INMATES AND THEIR FAMILIES.

IF THE COURT APPROVES THIS CONTRACT, TH SHERIFF'S OFFICE IS ALWAYS WILLING TO WORK WITH THE COURT AND ITS AUDITORS OFFICE TO DETERMINE THE BEST PATH FORWARD AFTER THIS THREE AND HALF YEAR CONTRACT IS OVER.

IF THERE'S ANY OTHER QUESTIONS TO ANSWER ALL BE HAPPY TO DO THAT.

SINCE YOU BROUGHT THE AUDITOR AND I'D LIKE TO ASK THE AUDITOR IN HER THOUGHTS OF WHAT WAS JUST SAID.

CERTAINLY.

THAT IS TRUE.

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THE COMMISSIONERS COURT HAS NEVER ASKED THE AUDITOR'S OFFICE TO AUDIT THIS REVENUE.

OUR GENERAL FUND REVENUE IS $87 MILLION.

THE FOCUS HAS BEEN OUR LARGER ELECTED OFFICIAL OFFICES WILL BRING IN REVENUE.

HOWEVER, BACK IN DECEMBER, WHEN THIS CONTRACT APPEARED, WE BEGAN PERFORMING DUE DILIGENCE AS FAR AS PROCUREMENT TO ENSURE THAT THIS CONTRACT WAS PROCURED ACCORDING TO THE STATE REQUIREMENTS.

WE WERE ABLE TO FIND THE NATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF STATE PROCUREMENT OFFICIALS CONTRACT,.

IT WAS COMPETITIVELY BID.

SO IT DOES MEET THE STATUTORY REQUIREMENTS FOR COMPETITIVE BIDDING.

AS FAR AS THE REVIEW OF THE REVENUE, WE ARE IN THE MIDDLE OF CLOSING OUR FINANCIAL BOOKS AND THE AMOUNT OF REVENUE THAT CAME IN FROM SECURUS WAS $183,111.96 FOR FISCAL YEAR 2019 WE DID RECEIVE REPORTS FROM SECURUS.

WE HAVE REVIEWED THEM AND WE HAVE AGREED AMOUNTS.

THE CHECKS HAVE COME IN.

SINCE DECEMBER AND WE HAVE NOT PERFORMED ON DETAIL AUDIT AS FAR AS GOING BACK AND TRACING BACK INDIVIDUAL -- A SAMPLE OF CALLS, THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WOULD REQUIRE ADDITIONAL INFORMATION FROM SECURUS AT THE REQUEST OF THE COMMISSIONERS COURT IF THEY CHOOSE FOR ME TO PROCEED WITH MORE DETAILED AUDIT.

AT THIS POINT WE HAVE RECEIVED SOME REPORTS FROM SECURUS AND HAVE BEEN TRACED TO THE CHECKS THAT HAVE BEEN DEPOSITED INTO THE GENERAL FUND.

AND I NOTICE A DIFFERENCE FROM A FEW WEEKS AGO'S CONTRACT TO THE ONE THAT WAS JUST PROVIDED.

THE DOLLAR AMOUNTS HAVE CHANGED AND PERCENTAGES HAVE SHIFTED.

COULD YOU SAY THAT TO THE AUDIENCE WHATEVER THAT MAY BE.

CAN YOU ELABORATE ON WHAT YOU MEAN THAT THE AMOUNTS HAVE SHIFTED? WHAT -- WHAT PARTICULAR AMOUNTS.

IT SEEMS AS THOUGH THE PERCENTAGE THAT WAS PRESENTED IN DECEMBER'S CONTRACT THAT WAS GIVEN TO US IN OUR BACKUP HAD -- IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY LIKE A 50-50 OR A 6040 SPLIT AND NOW IT'S EITHER MISSING WORDS CHANGED IN THIS DOING.

I'D LIKE TO SEE IF WE COULD MAIL THOSE CONVERSATION PIECES DOWN.

AND THE REASON I'M ASKING YOU FEEL BAD DOIN IT HERE, BUT I WAS TOLD THAT THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE AND OUR GENERAL COUNSEL WERE NEGOTIATING THE CONTRACT AND I'M THE GUY THAT'S GONNA SIGN IT AND I JUST WANT TO BE MORE INFORMED.

I'VE BEEN GIVEN A LOT OF CONVERSATION ABOUT THE NEGATIVE SIDE OF THIS ORGANIZATION.

AND SO THE LAST THING YOU WANT TO DO IS TAKE VIDEO VISITATION FROM SOMEONE IN JAIL.

THAT'S NOT MY INTENT.

MY HOPE IS TO UNDERSTAND WHAT'S GOING ON, NOT BE LEFT OUT SO THAT I CAN SPEAK INTELLIGENTLY BECAUSE I'M BEING BOMBARDED WITH QUESTIONS THAT I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWERS.

THAT'S A GOOD PLACE TO BE IS THE COUNTY JUDGE.

WELL TO BEGIN WITH, THIS WAS A COLLABORATION BETWEEN US, THE GENERAL ACCOUNTTHE GENERAL COUNSEL OF THE AUDITOR'S OFFICE IN ORDER TO FIND THE BEST PATH FORWARD WITH THIS CONTRACT.

IN GENERAL COUNSEL CAN PROBABLY SPEAK TO THE COMMISSION RATE, BUT AS FAR AS I KNOW IT'S REMAIN THE SAME.

WHICH IS WHAT YOU.

50 PERCENT.

50 PERCENT YES, MA'AM.

OKAY.

AM I ASKED JUST ONE QUESTION? YES.

WHEN YOU WENT THROUGH THAT EXPLANATION WE KNOW THAT WE ARE RECEIVING 50 PERCENT OF WHATEVER IS GENERATED CORRECT IS THAT CORRECT? YES.

WE HAVE CALCULATED THE AMOUNT TO THE SUMMARY REPORT.

THEY ARE SUMMARY REPORTS OR NONSPECIFIC DETAIL WITH THE PHONE CALL IN NUMBER OF MINUTES AND SO ON.

IT'S A SUMMARY REPORT OF REVENUE AND THE PERCENTAGES HAVE BEEN CALCULATED APPROPRIATELY IN A BEEN DEPOSITED INTO TH GENERAL FUND.

IF THE COURT WISHES FOR ME TO PERFORM A MORE DETAILED AUDIT OF A SAMPLE OF PHONE CALLS THAT I WILL NEED YOUR DIRECTION TO DO THAT BECAUSE THAT IS NOT A REGULAR AUDIT THAT THIS AUDITORS AUDIT OFFICE HAS PERFORMED.

I WAS GIVEN TWO WEEKS AGO? YES.

IT WAS GIVEN TO ME AFTER DECEMBER WHEN WE WERE MADE AWARE THAT THIS CONTRACT WAS A POTENTIAL, WE BEGAN RESEARCHING PROCUREMENTS TO ENSURE EVERYTHING WAS ACCORDING TO OUR STATUTORY REQUIREMENTS AND WE HAD QUESTIONS FROM THE JUDGE'S OFFICE ABOUT REVENUE.

SO WE DID OUR SUMMARY VIEW AND ALSO AS PART OF OUR PROCESS BECAUSE WE ARE CLOSING OUR BOOKS AND THE ORIGINAL AMOUNT WAS TWO MONTHS LESS REVENUE THAT WAS INCLUDED IN OUR FINANCIAL STATEMENT FROM DECEMBER.

BUT SINCE THAT WE ARE AN ACCRUAL BASIS COUNTY THAT HAS TO ISSUE IT ON A ACCRUAL BASIS.

I HAVE BOOKED THE LAST TWO MONTHS OF REVENUE AND THAT'S WHY THE REVENUE AMOUNT IS HIGHER.

IN THE PROCESS, WE WILL REVIEW THE SUMMARY SHEETS.

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COMMISSIONER? OKAY.

SO MR. KENNEDY, AFTER REVIEWING THE CONTRACT, IF OUR PART IS 50 PERCENT IS THAT CORRECT? 50 PERCENT FOR PHONE CALLS 20 PERCENT FOR VIDEO VISITATION AND MESSAGING.

AND THE NUMBERS ARE THE SAME AS THEY WERE IN THE ORIGINAL.

#NAME? IT LOOKS LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT THAN THE AGREEMENT THAT WAS PUT FORWARD IN DECEMBER BECAUSE THIS IS THE MASTE AGREEMENT WHICH INCLUDES, AS YOUR MOTION, A STATEMENT OF WORK IN THE PA.

IT'S A DIFFERENT METHOD OF CONTRACTING.

THEY JUST BUILT THE CONTRACT DIFFERENTLY.

HOLD ON ONE SECOND.

I WAS GOING TO ASK, JULIE, WERE YOU ABLE TO GO THROUGH THE NASCO -- I GUESS VENDORS THAT WERE ON THAT LIST AND LOOK THROUGH TO SEE IF -- OR WHAT THOSE PRICES LOOK LIKE? YES, MA'AM.

WELL IT'S DIFFICULT.

IN THE CONTRACT THE ONLY COMPANY THAT WE CAN SOMEWHAT GET CLOSE TO COMPARE WITH WOULD BE CENTURYLINK.

BUT THE ISSUE WITH TRYING TO DETERMINE IS HARD TO DO BECAUSE IT'S ALL BASED OFF OF THE CALL VOLUME THAT WAS MADE FROM THE PRIOR YEAR, PLUS THE AMOUNT OF INMATES THAT ARE LOCATED.

SO ALL OF THAT TO INCLUDE ANY FEATURES THA YOU ARE INCLUDING IN THIS CONTRACT ARE TO BE TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT.

IF YOU'RE NOT COMPARING APPLES TO APPLES, IS NOT -- IS NOT QUITE THAT EASY TO BE ABLE TO COMPARE THE TWO COMPANIES.

SO WHAT YOU DO TAKE A CLOSER LOOK.

WE DID TAKE A LOOK YES, MA'AM.

I WAS DOING SOME MATH HERE, SORRY.

COMMISSIONER? YES.

I WANTED TO SAY A COUPLE OF THINGS.

I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE HAD ONE PUBLIC SPEAKER COME AND SPEAK AND THEN CHOOSE NOT TO ACTUALLY STAY AND LISTEN FOR THE DEBATE.

WE ASK QUESTIONS.

HE HAS QUESTIONS THAT HE WANTED ANSWERS AND I'M SURE THAT WE BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO ANSWER THOSE IN PERSON.

I -- ONE OF THE QUESTIONS WAS WHY I SPONSORED THIS? AND I'LL TELL YOU THIS I SPONSOR BECAUSE WHENEVER I LOOKED AT THE CONTRACT AND WAS PRESENTED BACK IN DECEMBER I WANTED TO LEARN MORE ABOUT IT.

SO I TOOK THE TIME TO REACH OUT TO THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT, TO MEET WITH THE CAPTAIN REVIEW THE DOCUMENTATION AN ACTUALLY LEARN MORE ABOUT IT.

I WAS VERY PROACTIVE ABOUT IT, I THINK ANYWAY.

AND IN DOING THAT, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT IMPRESSED ME THE MOST -- REMOVE ANYTHING ELSE, THE SHEER NUMBER OF OUR INMATES THAT USE THIS SERVICE, WITHOUT ANY -- THE SHEER NUMBER OF INMATES THAT USE THIS SERVICE, THE NUMBER OF CALLS AND VIDEO CALLS THAT WE HAVE HAD OVER THE LAST YEAR, JUST IN THE LAST YEAR WITHOUT COMPLAINTS, I THINK THAT' MASSIVE.

I VIEW THIS AS A SERVICE FOR OUR INMATES.

AND I DON'T SAY THAT JOKINGLY.

MANY OF OUR INMATES DON'T LIVE HERE.

THEY DON'T LIVE LOCALLY.

AND THERE'S NO OPPORTUNITY FOR THEM TO MEE OR SPEAK WITH THEIR LOVED ONES.

THIS IS A WAY FOR THAT PERSON WHO IS INCARCERATED WHO HASN'T SEEN HER CHILD IN SIX MONTHS THEY CAN SEE THEIR CHILD.

AND I THINK GIVING THEM THAT SERVICE IN A WAY THAT COSTS LITERALLY HALF OF WHAT IT WOULD UNDER THE CURRENT CONTRACT IS SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD BE -- WE SHOULD BE VERY FORWARD IN DOING.

THE OTHER THING I WOULD SAY IS THAT IF YOU LOOK AT DIFFERENT STUDIES WHEN YOU HAVE THIS VIDEO TECHNOLOGY IN THE SOLAR TECHNOLOGY, THE RECIDIVISM RATE DROPS SIGNIFICANTLY SOMEWHERE MOST OF THE TIME IN THE NAME OF -- IN THE RANGE OF 30 PERCENT.

THESE FOLKS THAT THEY'RE DEALING WITH, BECAUSE THEY HAVE THIS TECHNOLOGY AT THEIR FINGERTIPS, IT IS HELPFUL FOR THEM.

IN TRYING TO DEAL WITH THE ISSUES THAT THEY HAVE.

I THINK ONE OF THE MAIN POINTS I WOULD MAKE AS WE LOOK AT THE AVAILABILITY OF SPECIFICALLY, IF YOU LOOK AT THE CONTRACT, THE AVAILABILITY OF LEGAL ASSISTANCE FOR THESE INDIVIDUAL INMATES, THEIR ACCESS TO IT, I THINK THIS WILL EXPONENTIALLY GROW THAT.

AND THAT'S A CONCERN THAT I'VE HAD IN THE PAS THAT HAVING TO ASSIGN OFFICERS TO ESCORT THOSE FOLKS AND GET THEM TO THAT INTO THE LAW LIBRARY AND THOSE KIND OF THINGS, THIS REMOVES THAT CONCERN.

THE OTHER THING THAT I WOULD SAY IS THAT THERE MIGHT BE SOME CONFUSION OUT THERE.

I KNOW THAT LITERALLY, I GOT ONE EMAIL ON THIS TOTAL.

I -- ONE EMAIL TOTAL.

NO PHONE CALLS THE END I THINK THAT THERE'S SOME CONFUSION AS TO WHAT THESE PHONES ARE.

THESE PHONES AND TABLETS, THEY'RE NOT THE SAME ONES THAT I HAVE IN MY BAG OR ARE HERE.

I MEAN, THEY'RE NOT THE PHONES AND TABLETS THAT WE HAVE.

THEY ARE EQUIPPED WITH A VAST AMOUNT OF SECURITY SOFTWARE THAT HELPS PROTECT

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THE SAFETY OF NOT ONLY OUR OFFICERS, BUT THE OTHER INMATES.

AND THAT'S A REAL KEY.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT -- ANY ONE OF THE STORIES THAT I READ -- AND THIS WAS -- IT WAS ACTUALLY REFERENCED IN THE TIMES ARTICLE THAT WAS REFERENCED EARLIER.

WAS ABOUT THE MONITORING OF CERTAIN GANG ACTIVITY IN THOSE KIND OF THINGS BECAUSE THE SOFTWARE PROVIDED THAT ABILITY.

AND FOR ME, AGAIN, I SPONSORED THIS ITEM BECAUSE I WANTED TO.

I BELIEVE THAT IS GOING TO PROVIDE A SERVICE FOR OUR INMATES AT A REASONABLE RATE WHEREBY IN THE PAST IT MAY HAVE BEEN REASONABLE, BUT NOT AS ACCESSIBLE.

NOW EVEN THOUGH WE HAVE LITERALLY TENS OF THOUSANDS OF USES WITHOUT THE COMPLAINTS THAT WE'VE HEARD OF, ANYWAY, NOW THEY'RE GOING TO GET UP FOR HALF THE COST.

AND SO A BIG PROPONENT OF IT.

I'M HAPPY TO DO IT AND I WAS HAPPY TO SPONSOR IT ON BEHALF OF THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT AND I THINK THEM FOR TAKING THE TIME TO EDUCATE, SPECIFICALLY YOU CAPTAIN FOR THE CONCERNS OF THE QUESTIONS THAT I HAVE BECAUSE YOU BEEN NOTHING BUT GIVING WITH YOUR TIME AND I APPRECIATE YOUR SERVICE.

THANK YOU.

YES.

CAPTAIN, YOU ARE WORTHY OF ALL THOSE COMMENTS, ABSOLUTELY.

IN YOUR DUE DILIGENCE, COMMISSIONER I WISH WE WOULD HAVE TAKEN THE OPPORTUNITY TO POST THAT AGENDA ITEM IN A TIMELY MANNER AND NOT UNTIL FRIDAY BECAUSE OF THE COMPLEXITY AND -- WELL, I REPRESENT A FEW MORE PEOPLE, BUT BECAUSE OF THE SLICE OF COMMUNITY THA IS AFFECTED BY THIS, I DID GET A LOT OF CALLS.

SO I WISH WE WOULD HAVE A LITTLE MORE TIME TO DISCUSS THIS.

I WISH HE WOULD HAVE THAT I HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS FOR YOU.

JUDGE I WOULD LIKE TO RESPOND TO.

YOU ADDRESSED ME I LIKE TO RESPOND IF POSSIBLE.

IT WAS -- SURE.

GO AHEAD.

I WOULD HAVE LOVED A CALL FROM YOU, LITERALLY.

I WOULD HAVE LOVED A: I WOULD'VE DISCUSSED ANY OF IT WITH YOU.

I THINK THAT'S SOMEWHAT DISINGENUOUS GIVEN THE FACT THAT WE HAD TO AGENDA ITEMS LAST WEEK THAT YOU PUT FORTH THAT LITERALLY W DID HAVE ANY BACKGROUND MATERIAL UNTIL WE CONSIDERED IT THE CHIEF OF STAFF WALKED UP AND HANDED US A BACKGROUND ITEM.

SO PLEASE DON'T MAKE THAT ACCUSATION LEISURE WILLING TO LIVE UP TO THOSE STANDARDS YOURSELF.

HERE'S WHAT WILL REPLY TO KNOW WE WILL NOT BIGGER NO MOVE ON.

THE CUSTOMARY APPROACH OF RECEIVING DOCUMENTS AS WE START COURT IS, UNFORTUNATELY, NOT RARE.

WE HAVE THE AUDITOR'S OFFICE, FOR EXAMPLE, JUST HAND US A BOOK OF NUMBERS AND WE WERE OKAY WITH THAT.

IT WAS IN CRITICAL INFORMATION.

THAT WE HAD TO READ BEFORE WE VOTED AND SO, IT WAS JUST BACKUP INFORMATION THAT YOU ALREADY HAD.

IT WAS JUST BEING FACILITATED OF WHAT THE CHIEF OF STAFF PROVIDED ON YOUR EXAMPLE.

NOW, WHEN IT COMES TO REACHING OUT, YOU KNEW CLEARLY THAT I WAS GETTING A LOT OF ATTENTION ABOUT THIS AGENDA ITEM.

LEGALLY I CAN SPEAK TO ONE OTHER MEMBER.

I WILL FINISH.

WHICH I DID.

I WAS GIVEN, CLEARLY A LOT OF RESISTANCE OVER THIS AGENDA ITEM, WHICH I WILL CONFESS YET AGAIN I DID NOT KNOW WHO SECURUS EVEN WAS BEFORE THIS.

AND SO, WHEN I SHARED THE CITIZENRY CONCERNS WITH COMMISSIONER SHELLS AT THE TIME, HE DID A WONDERFUL JOB OF ASKING T OPEN IT AND THE CAPTAIN DID A WONDERFUL JOB OF DONATING TIME TO EXPLAIN ALL THE PIECES.

SO TO THINK THAT YOU WOULD USE THE WORD DISINGENUOUS IS FUNNY I GUESS I'LL LEAVE IT THERE, BECAUSE YOU KNEW THAT MY OFFICE WAS RECEIVING A LOT OF ATTENTION ABOUT THIS AND YET YOU SPONSORED THE OTTOMAN DON'T POST UNTIL FRIDAY AND DON'T GIVE ME A CALL TO SA HEY, I'M GOING TO BE THE NEW SPONSOR OF THIS AGENDA ITEM.

I KNOW YOU HAD CONCERNS IN DECEMBER.

LET ME SHARE WITH YOU WHAT I'VE LEARNED.

I CAN'T CALL YOU, BY STATE LAW, SIR.

STATE LAWS CONVENIENT QUICK SURE EXCUSES CAN BE A.

SO NOW BACK TO THIS (LAUGHING).

I HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS FOR YOU.

WHAT CAN THE TABLETS DO? OKAY.

WERE MOVING ON TO THE SECOND ITEM.

IT'S NOT OPEN RIGHT NOW.

IT WAS PART OF YOUR -- IT WAS PART OF YOUR EXPLANATION AND SO THAT'S ONE OF THE QUESTIONS I WROTE.

BUT THAT'S OKAY.

WE WAIT FOR THEN.

WILL.

THAT'S OKAY WE CAN WE.

ANOTHER QUESTION, OUR COMMISSIONER SAID #NAME? MANY INMATES DON'T LIVE HERE.

YOU HAVE ANY POTENTIAL EQUATION AS TO HOW MANY OF OUR INMATES DO

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NOT LIVE IN THIS COUNTY.

NO, SIR.

THAT'S HARD FOR ME â€" I'D BE HAPPY TO PROVIDE THAT NUMBER LATER, BUT I WAS NOT PREPARED FOR THAT QUESTION.

SO I WOULD HAVE TO DO SOME RESEARCH TO GIVE YOU THAT.

IT'S NOT NECESSARY.

IN CASE IT WAS BROUGHT UP I JUST WANT TO HEAR JUST IN CASE YOU HAD THAT INFORMATION.

I UNDERSTAND THE STAFFING CONCERNS.

I'M WELL AWARE.

WILL THIS PROCESS HELP US WITH THE 20 MINUTE JAIL STANDARD REQUIREMENTS SO THAT WE CAN SATISFY THAT? IS THAT THE INTENT TO HELP US MEET THE 20 MINUTES TWICE A WEEK.

TO.

THAT IS WAS FREE TO THE FAMILIES RIGHT NOW IS THE IN PERSON VISITS AND THAT'S WHAT JAIL STANDARDS REQUIRES THAT THEY GET A 220 MINUTE VISITS PER WEEK.

AND NOT -- THIS -- THE PHONE DOESN'T EQUATE TO ANYTHING IN THE IN PERSON VISIT.

IN THE VIDEO IS NOT IN ANY WAY TO TAKE THE PLACE OF ONE OF THE STATUTORY REQUIREMENTS.

NO, SIR.

NOT ALL.

HAYS COUNTY HAS BEEN DOING ALL THREE -- WELL NOT UNTIL RECENTLY, WE GOT THE VIDEO UNITS, BUT THAT'S AN ADDITIONAL OPTION.

WERE NOT REPLACING ONE OPTION FOR THE OTHER.

WEEK LEGALLY WE CAN'T.

WE CAN'T, CORRECT.

AND THAT'S WHY MASKING.

I WASN'T INCLUDED IN THE CONVERSATION SO I'VE GOT TO ASK.

AND, THIS ONE IS FOR OUR AUDITOR.

WHAT CONTROLS OR CHANGES -- IF ANYONE KNOWS DO WE HAVE IN PLACE SO THAT WE WILL BE MORE INFORMED WERE JUST A FEW WEEKS AGO I STARTED RESEARCHING AND ASKING EVERYBODY WAS BLINDSIDED WITH THE QUESTIO OF HEY WHERE'S THE MONEY GOING AND ARE WE GETTING HER PART? IS THERE SOMETHING MOVING FORWARD THAT'S GOING TO BE SET IN MOTION TO FACILITATE THAT INFORMATION FOR US? DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA? IS FIRST OF FUNDS HAVE ALWAYS BEEN DEPOSITED INTO THAT LINE ITEM.

AS I SAID, STATUTORILY, IS NOT ONE OF THE AUDITORS AUDITS, BUT WE HAVE BEEN GIVING THE REPORTING INFORMATION THAT WE NEED FROM SECURUS AND EVERY FISCAL YEAR, WE WILL PULL THOSE REPORTS AND WE WILL COMPARE THEM WITH THE DEPOSITS AND I DO RECOMMEND THAT IN THE FUTURE THAT THE COMMISSIONERS INSTRUCT ME TO DO A MORE DETAILED AUDIT AS WELL, JUST TO ENSURE THAT THE SUMMARY REPORTS, THAT THERE IS DETAILED SUPPORTING DOCUMENTATION THAT TIES TO THE REPORTS.

THANK YOU.

I APPRECIATE THAT BECAUSE THAT'S THE TENSIO OF GETTING AN INHERENT REQUEST.

IT WOULD GET INTO THE PERCENTAGE MATCHES THE REVENUE.

CURRENTLY WE ARE REPOPULATING PERCENTAGES.

SO IF YOU WANT ME TO REPOPULATE THE REVENUE, I WOULD HAVE TO HAVE ADDITIONAL INFORMATION FROM SECURUS WHICH LIST TH MINUTE AND HOW THEY CALCULATE THE REVENUE.

AND WE WOULD DO THAT ON A SIMPLE BASIS.

AND THE CAPTAIN SAID WE HAD OVER 2000 VIDEO CALLS IN THE MONTH OF NOVEMBER.

NEXT WE COULD DO THE SAMPLE TESTING IF THE COURT INSTRUCTS ME.

THAT WOULD REQUIRE COURSE INSTRUCTION.

BUT AS FAR AS REPOPULATING REVENUE AND ENSURING THAT THE DEPOSITS ARE IN THE PROPER LINE ITEM, THAT HAS BEEN DONE.

THAT SAMPLING IS A CONCERN AND SPECIFICALLY URINE -- I'M HEARING A LOT OF THE CONVERSATIONS COMING AND -- THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT'S BEING SAID TO ME IS OKAY, SO WE'VE GOT FIVE BOTTLES OF WATER AND ONTO JUST BE TRUSTED -- WITHOUT BEING THEREBY -- I BELIEVE BUT IN TRUST BUT VERIFY -- TO SAY OKAY.

WE ARE GOING TO GO THREE FOR ME INTO REVIEWER THREE FOR YOU INTO FOR ME? WHAT ARE WE GOING TO ASSUME AND SAY OKAY THAT'S THE PART BECAUSE THAT'S ALMOST HALF $1 MILLION A YEAR.

AND NO ONE HAS BEEN SAYING IS THAT OUR PART, WHATEVER IT IS.

AND I'VE GOT A PROBLEM PROVIDING PEOPLE A SERVICE WHEN IS COSTING THEM MUCH MONEY, WHICH I FEEL -- AND I'M NO PRO ON THIS FRONT, BUT I FEEL THAT WE SHOULD, AS I KNOW FOR A FACT, A LOT OF PEOPLE IN THERE ARE CITIZENS OF HAYS COUNTY AND MY RESPONSIBILITY FOR THEM DOESN'T STOP BECAUSE THEY'RE INCARCERATED FOR A DAY, FOR A WEEK, OR MONTH.

I FEEL THAT I'M SIMPLY TRYING TO BE A GOOD FISCAL STEWARD.

AND IF SOMEONE CALLS FOR THAT SYSTEM FOR A TWO MINUTE CALL ON THE VIDEO FOR EXAMPLE, IS GOING TO BE $5.35 OR WHATEVER, I WANT TO SEE THAT WE, AS A COUNTY ARE GETTING THE BEST DEAL WITH SECURUS THAT WE CAN GET AND NUMBER

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TWO, WITHIN THAT DEAL, I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE NOT GOUGING THE INMATES SIMPLY BECAUSE WELL THEIR STOCK.

IT REMINDS ME OF A FLOOD COMING IN FROM HOUSTON AND ALL THE SUDDEN GASES SEVEN DOLLARS A GALLON.

WE'RE DOING YOU A SERVICE.

SEVEN DOLLARS A GALLON.

THERE ARE LAWS AGAINST THAT AND I THINK THIS IS INCHING IN THE DIRECTION IN THE STORIES THAT I'VE BEEN CONVEYED.

I'M ONLY TRYING TO ADDRESS THE CONCERNS.

I'M GRATEFUL THOUGHT USED IT.

I'M JUST TRYING TO CARE FOR THE CITIZENRY THAT'S IN YOUR CARE THAT HERE'S MY OPPORTUNITY.

THE JAIL IS WELL WRITTEN.

IT LOOKS CLEAN.

IT'S JUST ASSESSMENT MEASURES 20'S.

AND I CONSIDER THAT MY JOB.

AND CAPTAIN, SOMEONE MENTIONED EARLIER, WE ARE NOT RECORDING INMATE ATTORNEY PHONE CALLS.

WE'VE GOT A SYSTEM THAT PREVENTS THAT, RIGHT? CORRECT.

WE ARE NOT RECORDING INMATE PHONE CALLS.

THE ATTORNEYS ARE REQUIRED TO NOTIFY US AN IT'S ALSO LISTED ON OUR WEBSITE TO NOTIFY US AND THAT OPTION WILL NOT BE RECORDED AND THAT'S BEEN EXPLAINED TO THE BAR ASSOCIATION.

WE ARE CUTTING THE COST ABOUT 60 PERCENT.

WE ARE ADDING MORE SERVICES.

IF WE DON'T APPROVE THE CONTRACT GET MEANS RELAYING THE INMATES OVER TO THE NEW JAILS AND INCREASES THE NUMBER OF DAYS THAT WERE GOING TO BE OUTSOURCING WHICH COSTS US MORE MONEY.

THERE'S A POTENTIAL OUTSOURCING BECAUSE OF THE READINESS OF THE JAIL? NO BECAUSE WE CAN'T MOVE THEM OVER ON TIME.

OKAY.

IN THE LAST QUESTION, DO WE REALLY NEED TO MAKE THIS CONTRACT BEING SO LONG WITHOUT GOING OUT AND SOME UPPER BID PROCESS? I'M OF THE BELIEF THAT WE SHOULD OPEN IT UP FOR COMPETITION.

CAN WE CONSIDER ADOPTING IT FOR A SHORTER WINDOW OF TIME? THAT'S MY LAST COMMENT.

I DO NOT THINK SO BECAUSE WE ARE USING THE CONTRACT AND THAT EXPIRES IN THREE AND HALF YEARS.

SO WE WERE ABLE TO SHORTEN IT SO THAT WAY WE CAN COME BACK WITH THE AUDITOR, GENERAL COUNSEL, AND HAVE THAT DISCUSSION ABOUT GOING OUT.

WE ARE NOT CONCERNED ABOUT THAT.

WE WOULD BE HAPPY TO DO THAT WHEN THAT TIME COMES.

BUT THIS ALLOWS US TO LOWER THE RATES FOR OUR FAMILIES TODAY, NOW, ALLOW US NOT TO DO ANYTHING TO HALT CONSTRUCTION OR MOV THINGS FORWARD IN THE WILL BE HAPPY TO REEVALUATE THIS AGAIN IN THREE AND HAL YEARS.

MLS QUESTION.

MY LAST QUESTION ON THAT FRONT THEN IS DO THEY HAVE AN EXCLUSIVE? COULD WE HAVE OUR IT DABBLE IN RESEARCH AND #NAME? CONTRACT.

THAT MIGHT BE OF QUESTION FOR -- CAN YOU EXPLAIN THAT.

I'LL EXPLAIN BETTER.

SORRY.

SO I'M JUST -- AGAIN, I DID NOT KNOW WH SECURUS WAS.

I DIDN'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THIS.

I DON'T HAVE A DOG IN THE HUNT.

MY QUESTION IS IF WE WERE TO CONSIDER, EVEN JUST AN EXERCISE FOR THE BOY SCOUTS SAY DON'T CALL MYSELF CHEAPSKATE, FOR TH THRIFTY IN ME, I'M A VERY THRIFTY INDIVIDUAL ON THESE ISSUES AND I'M JUST TRYING TO FIND THE CHEAPEST WAY TO DO IT IN PROVIDING THE MAXIMUM SERVICE.

SO MY EVOLUTION OF THOUGHT IS TO SAY WELL, WE CAN ALL PICK UP A PHONE THAT'S IN OUR POCKETS AND VIDEO SOMEONE THE TECHNOLOGIES AVAILABLE.

SO ADDING A LAYER OF SECURITY, PUTTING THE FIBER IN WHICH I KNOW WE HAVE.

SO I STARTED PUTTING TOGETHER THE IDEAS THAT I STARTED ASKING WELL, IF FOR SOME REASON WE WERE TO ENTERTAIN -- JUST ENTERTAIN TAKING THIS IN-HOUSE, WOULD WE BE ALLOWED TO EXERCISE THAT PROCESS? ESTHER KENNEDY? WE DO NOT HAVE THE SOFTWARE ENGINEERING CAPABILITIES OR THE HARDWARE CAPABILITIES TO DEVELOP THIS KIND OF PRODUCT.

SO THE ANSWER TO THAT WOULD BE NO.

I DON'T BELIEVE WE COULD DO IT IN-HOUSE.

TOMMY RIAZ THE QUESTION.

I BELIEVE IT WOULD TAKE MUCH LONGER THAN THE TIME HAVE.

LET ME REST THE QUESTION, MR. KENNEDY.

THE QUESTION I WAS ASKING WAS THAT THE CONTRACT FOR -- PREVENT US FROM TRYING.

I BELIEVE IT WOULD TAKE US LONGER THAN THE THREE AND HALF YOUR CONTRACT.

MR. KENNEDY UNLESS THE QUESTION WARMER TIME.

JUST YES, SIR NO.

DOES THE CONTRACT FORBID US FROM TRYING? THE CONTRACT ASSUMES THAT SECURUS WILL OFFER THE PRODUCT AND NOT ANYONE ELSE.

IS AT A EXCLUSIVE CONTRACT THAT PREVENTS US FROM TRYING.

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I'D HAVE TO LOOK FOR THE EXCLUSIVELY PROVISION AND REMIND MYSELF OF THAT IF YOU GIVE ME TIME.

BUT I THINKS THAT'S THE ASSUMPTION.

I'M CERTAIN IT SAYS IT SOMEWHERE BUT LET ME FIND IT.

OKAY.

AND WHILE I HAVE THE MIKE, JUDGE, LET ME JUST SAY THAT ON PAGE 300 OF YOUR PACKETS, THERE IS ONE MINOR CORRECTION.

IT IS ON PAGE 2 OF THE PARTICIPATING ADDENDUM.

THERE IS A COMMENT IN YELLOW THAT SAYS HAYES TO INDUCE â€" INSERT ADDITIONAL TERMS IF NEEDED.

THERE WERE NOT ADDITIONAL TERMS SO WE WOULD SIMPLY REMOVE THAT AND CHANGE THE CHECKED BOX TO NO CHANGES TO THE TERMS AND CONDITIONS THAT INADVERTENTLY WAS LEFT IN WHAT MAY BACKUP SO I WANTED TO MAKE THAT COMMENT.

AND THIS MIGHT HELP ANSWER ONE OF THE QUESTIONS THE JUDGE HAD.

A SHORTER CONTRACT WOULD NOT ALLOW THE COMPANY ENOUGH TIME TO RECRUIT -- IT'S GOING TO BE A SIGNIFICANT INVESTMENT FOR THEM TO MOVE THE SOFTWARE AND EQUIPMENT AND A SHORTER CONTRACT WOULD NOT GIVE THEM ENOUGH TIME CORRECT IS ACCURATE.

I'M NOT FOLLOWING YOUR QUESTION.

IF WE GAVE THEM A SHORTER CONTRACT, IT WOULD NOT GIVE THEM ENOUGH TIME TO RECRUIT THE AMOUNT OF INVESTMENT THEY ARE PUTTING INTO MOVING INTO THE NEW JAIL.

THAT'S CORRECT.

OKAY.

I'M SORRY.

GO HAD.

I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY ONE OTHER THING.

WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE PREVIOUS AGREEMENT OR THE PREVIOUS THING WE LOOKED AT VERSUS THE AGREEMENT THAT WERE LOOKING AT NOW, ONE THING THAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT A LITTLE BIT MORE SPECIFICALLY IS THE COMPETITIVENESS OF THIS CONTRACT.

ONE REASON TO MOVE TO THAT CONTRACT SPECIFICALLY IS BECAUSE IT OFFERS US A COMPETITIVE ADVANTAGE IN DEALING WITH THESE COMPANIES.

IT'S A COOPERATIVE.

AND BY BEING A COOPERATIVE, IT GIVES US BETTER OPPORTUNITY TO ACHIEVE LOWER RATES AT A LOWER VOLUME THAN WHAT WE HAD.

AS WAS MENTIONED EARLIER, RATES FOR THESE PRODUCTS GENERALLY ARE BASED OFF USAGE.

HOW MANY INMATES TO HAVE HOW OFTEN ARE YOU USING THE SERVICE.

IF WE WERE TO GO THIS ALONG, WE WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO DEMAND THE SAME TYPE OF FEE SCHEDULE THAT WE COULD AS PART OF A LARGE COOPERATIVE.

AND THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I THINK IS SOMEWHAT BEING MISSED HERE, IS THAT BEING A PART OF THIS CONTRACT, WE ARE AT COMPETITIVE ADVANTAGE IN DEALING WITH THESE INDIVIDUAL COMPANIES.

THERE'S NOT LIKE THERE'S A DOZEN OF THESE COMPANIES WERE TWO DOZEN COMPANIES OUT THERE.

THERE ARE 2 TO 4 THE INDUSTRY OF MY UNDERSTANDING IS CORRECT.

I KNOW THAT MR. KENNEDY WOULD PROBABLY HAVE A BETTER DESCRIPTION OF THAT.

BEFORE WE GO TO MR. KENNEDY, I WAS JUST GOING TO ASK, I KNOW WE TALKED ABOUT THE THREE AND HALF YEARS FOR THIS NE CONTRACT AND I KNOW WE SPOKE A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THIS, JULIE, IS THERE ANY WAY TO SHORTEN THAT CONTRACT UP? I KNOW IT'S WITHIN THAT â€" I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT TO CALL IT BUT IT'S IN NASPO.

IS THERE A WAY TO SHORTEN THE CONTRACT FOR THE TIME THAT WE NEED TO DO EVERYTHING THAT WE NEED TO DO? I'VE HEARD DIFFERENT YEARS THAT WE'VE BEEN WITH SECURUS.

AND THIS LAST ONE IS -- I HEARD AT ONE TIME I HEARD 2011.

NOW I HEARD TODAY 2007.

THAT'S 13 YEARS THAT WE BEEN WITH THE COMPANY.

I ABSOLUTELY KNOW HOW IT IS WHEN WE ARE TOTALLY SATISFIED WITH THE SERVICE THAT A COMPANY IS PROVIDING.

BUT 13 YEARS IS A LONG TIME.

AND I KNOW THAT YOU SAID THAT AFTER THREE AND HALF YEARS WE CAN CERTAINLY OPEN THAT UP AND DO WHATEVER WE NEED TO CHOOSE TO DO.

I'M WONDERING IS THERE ANY WAY THAT WE CAN SECURE THESE RATES MAY BE UNTIL THE END OF THE YEAR AND THEN, IF THAT WOULD ALLOW US TO DO ALL THE MOVING AND EVERYTHING THAT WE NEED AND THEN GO OUT FOR BID AT THAT TIME.

HONESTLY, COMMISSIONER, I DO NOT SEE THAT THAT WOULD HAPPEN BECAUSE THE COMPANY IS INVESTING A LOT OF MONEY IN THE EQUIPMENT AND INFRASTRUCTURE FOR THE EXPANSION.

AND I CAN'T SEE THEM WANTING TO DO THAT AND THEN WE TURN AROUND AND PUT IT OUT FOR RS P.

LIKE THE COMMISSIONER SAID, WE ARE GETTING THE LOWEST RATE POSSIBLE BECAUSE I'VE ALREADY DONE THE PROCUREMENT.

AND SO I DO NOT SEE SECURUS WILLING TO DO THAT.

AND THAT PUTS US WITH THE FAMILY STILL HAVING THEIR PHONE CALLS OF $10.41, CONTINUING FORWARD.

I PERSONALLY THINK THIS IS A WIN FOR HAYS COUNTY.

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IT'S A WIN FOR THE FAMILY, ALL THE PRODUCTS THAT WE ARE PROVIDING, WE WILL KEEP SECURUS ON THEIR TOES.

AND AGAIN, THIS NASPO CONTRACT ONLY GOES TO THREE NAP YEARS.

WE ARE NOT IN ANY POSITION OR WORRIED ABOU PUTTING OUT FOR RSP.

THEY UNDERSTAND THAT BECAUSE THAT'S THE BUSINESS.

SO, YOU KNOW, BEFORE US, WE HAVE THE UNDER THE NASPO CONTRACT WILL HAVE TO BE THREE NAP YEARS.

I BELIEVE WE ALL WANT TO MAKE THE BEST DECISION BUT THERE'S BEEN CONCERNS RAISED AND WE NEED TO ADDRESS THE CONCERNS AND I THINK WE'VE DONE A GOOD JOB TODAY.

OKAY.

WELL THANK YOU.

THE EXCLUSIVELY PROVISION, JUST FOR THE RECORD IS IN SECTION 3 ON PAGE 1 OF THE STATEMENT WORK.

IT'S PEPPERED THROUGHOUT AND CLEANEST PROVISION IN SECTION 3 ON PAGE 1.

AND WILL YOU INTERPRET THAT FOR ME.

I CAN READ YOU THE SECTION IF YOU'D LIKE.

LET ME TRY THIS WAY MR. KENNEDY? LET ME ASK THE QUESTION AND THEN BASED ON WHAT YOU READ YOU CAN TELL ME YOUR OPINION.

SO MY QUESTION IS IF SECURUS, WHO IS THE CHEAPEST, THE MOST COMPETITIVE AND EVERYTHING ELSE STAYS AND WE WANT TO DABBLE ON SOME RESEARCH TO SEE WHAT IT WOULD TAKE FOR US TO TAKE THAT IN-HOUSE, WOULD WE BE ALLOWED? DOES SECURUS HAVE AN EXCLUSIVE ON OUR JAIL? SECURUS HAS AN EXCLUSIVE IN PROVIDING.

THERE IS NO LIMITATION ON EXPLORING YOUR ABILITY IF THE COUNTY SAW FIT TO DO SO.

BUT PROVISION OF PHONE SERVICES AND COMMUNICATIONS IS EXCLUSIVE TO SECURUS UNDER THE CONTRACT.

THE PHONE WHAT WAS THE OTHER ONE YOU SAID? INMATE RELATED COMMUNICATIONS.

INMATE RELATED COMMUNICATIONS.

IT SOUNDS LIKE WE, THE COUNTY CAN JUST.

HERE'S THE ONE CONCERN THAT I WOULD HAVE.

PART OF THE CONTRACT, THE DUE DILIGENCE FOR THE CONTRACT, CONFIDENTIALITY AND NONDISCLOSURE AND THAT WOULD GIVE ME THE LARGEST CONCERN.

THE FACT IS THE TECHNOLOGY THAT WE ARE USING, WE ARE GOING TO HAVE -- OUR EMPLOYEES ARE GOING TO HAVE INTIMATE KNOWLEDGE OF THAT SOFTWARE AND INTIMATE KNOWLEDGE OF THE HARDWARE.

WHEN IT'S INSTALLED OUR IT FOLKS ARE GOING TO BE THERE, THEY'RE GOING TO BE THE ONES WHO ARE TRAINED ON IT.

AND WHO ARE WE GOING TO TURN TO IF WE DABBLE TO DO THIS IN-HOUSE? IT'S GOING TO BE OUR IT FOLKS THAT HAVE THE MOST KNOWLEDGE ON THIS.

SO FOR ME, THERE IS VERY STRONG PROVISIONS IN HERE PROTECTING -- UNDER THE MASTER AGREEMENT BOTH NONDISCLOSURE AND SPECIFI TECHNOLOGIES.

SOME OF THE HARDWARE THEY USE AND SOME OF THOSE KIND OF THINGS.

MY CONCERN WOULD BE LIABILITY TO THE COUNTY AND THOSE SPECIFIC EMPLOYEES THAT WE WOULD PAY TO WORK ON THIS IF THEY HAD AN KNOWLEDGE OF WHAT WAS INSTALLED OR THE SOFTWARE THAT WAS USED.

AGAIN, I DO NOT KNOW THAT THERE IS A PROVISION SAYING YOU CANNOT DO IT.

I BE SCARED FOR THE LIABILITY FOR THAT.

I THINK A VIDEO SET UP WITH AN IPAD FOR AN EXCLAMATION -- EXPLANATION WOULD NOT BE STILL ANYONE'S ANYTHING.

I WANT TO KNOW WHAT OUR ACCESS IS AS A PERSON TRYING TO SIMPLY TRYING TO GET THE BEST DEAL FOR US AS RESIDENTS OF HAYS COUNTY.

THAT'S THE LENS I'M LOOKING THROUGH.

I'M NOT TRYING TO TAKE AWAY ANY OF THE SERVICES.

I'M SIMPLY SAYING ARE WE GETTING THE BEST DEAL.

COULD WE SHORTEN THIS TIME BECAUSE NASPO COMPETITIVE ADVANTAGE IS IN PLACE OUR HEARING IS THAT THE COMPETITIVE DAMAGE ARE THERE.

IT'S NOT THE BEST DEAL ON EMERGENCY TYPE ISSUES.

IF THEY ARE COMMENTS LIKE A RACE.

IF YOU REALLY ARE FASTER THAN ME, THE LET' RUN AROUND THE BLOCK.

PROVE IT.

ALL I'M TRYING TO DO IS SAY IF YOU'RE REALLY AS GOOD AS YOU SAY, ALLOW US A SHORTER CONTRACT SO YOU CAN PROVE YOUR WORTH? PROVE TO US THAT WE DID A GOOD JOB BY CHOOSING YOU IN A SHORTER WINDOW OF TIME.

THAT'S PRETTY CHEAP THINKING ON SOMEBODY THAT HAS A BOOT ON.

YOU SEE THAT (LAUGHING).

ANYWAY, THAT WAS MY GOAL IN ASKING THESE QUESTIONS.

AND I'M A SINGER SUGGESTING THAT WE TRY T STEAL SECURUS'S

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TECHNOLOGY.

AM NOT EITHER.

I'M JUST SAYING THAT UNEQUIVOCALLY, IT OPENS US UP TO SOMETHING.

I THINK HAVING VIDEO CAPABILITIES IS A LOT MORE THAN HAVING SOMEONE AND SHOOT BECAUSE OF SECURITY ISSUES.

THAT'S WOULD BE STEALING INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY.

OKAY.

THERE'S NO OTHER COMMENTS ON CALL ABOUT.

I HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS.

YES, SIR.

ARE THERE OTHER JAILS IN OUR REGION IN TH STATE THAT USE SECURUS THAT YOU'RE AWARE OF? YES.

TRAVIS COUNTY, FORT BEND, GOSH, HAD A LIST.

I DON'T KNOW THAT HAVE IT WITH ME.

BASTROP COUNTY, FORT BEND, TRAVIS COUNTY IS THE LIST THAT I HAVE, BUT THEY ARE DOING BUSINESS WITH DALLAS, HARRIS COUNTY, WALKER COUNTY, THE LIST GOES ON.

DO WE KNOW OF THOSE THAT DO NOT USE SECURUS, HOW THEY PROVIDE THESE SOLUTIONS? DO WE HAVE ANY IDEAS.

THAT'S A WONDERFUL QUESTION.

THAT HAVE TO DO MORE RESEARCH ON THAT.

OKAY.

TO FIND OUT BECAUSE I KNOW THAT BURNETT COUNTY USES CONNECT WORK, WHICH I'VE NEVER HEARD OF AND WHAT A LOOP COUNTY IS USING GLOBAL LINK.

YOU.

AND I'VE NEVER HEARD OF THEM EITHER.

WHAT I WAS LOOKING AT THE COMPANY, THERE WERE THREE MAIN COMPANIES IT LOOKS LIKE THAT PROVIDE THESE SERVICES ACROSS THE COUNTRY.

THIS COMPANY, SECURUS TRIED TO BUY THE OTHER COMPANY IN A NORMAL DAY DROP THEIR BID BECAUSE OF THE ROLE REGULATIONS.

I KNOW THAT WAS ONE OF THE CONCERNS THAT WAS BROUGHT UP WAS THE LACK OF COMPETITION IN THIS INDUSTRY AND THAT'S COMMON IN THESE TECHNOLOGY TYPE INDUSTRIES WHERE YOU GET ONE COMPANY THAT IS A TECHNOLOGY THAT TAKES OVER THE MARKET.

I DO THINK THAT WOULD BE WORTH LOOKING INTO TO SEE HOW OTHER PEOPLE PROVIDE THE SAME SOLUTION.

THE -- IN THE CONTRACT WITH THE NASPO IT TALKS ABOUT CANCELLATION.

THERE IS A -- THE SECTION ON CANCELLATION.

SO I CAN'T FIND ANY OTHER TERMINATION CLAUSE.

USUALLY YOU HAVE A TERMINATION CLAUSE BASED UPON EITHER PARTY FAILING TO PERFORM TO THE CONTRACT, OBVIOUSLY, BUT -- IN SOME CASES WHERE THERE IS AN UPFRONT COST, THERE MIGHT BE A PRORATED TERMINATION WHERE YOU SAY THE COMPANY AGREES THAT IF YOU TERMINATE WITHIN A CERTAIN PERIOD OF TIME YOU HAVE JUST PAY THEM FOR THE INSTALLATION OF HARDWAR OR SOMETHING ELSE.

I DID NOT KNOW IF THAT WAS CONTEMPLATED IN THE NEGOTIATION ON A TERMINATION IF THE COURT WISHED TO GARNER THE ABILITY TO TERMINATE AT SOME POINT PRIOR TO THE THREE AND HALF YEARS WHICH SEEMS TO BE THE TIMEFRAME ON HEARING.

IF THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT COULD BE NEGOTIATED AT A LATER DATE, IN OTHER WORDS, YOU KNOW, IF IT'S COST NEUTRAL TO THE COMPANY THEY MAY ENTER INTO AN AMENDMENT TO PROVIDE THAT OR FASTER DIRECTION SOMEBODY WANTS TO GO OR SOME OTHER COMPANY WALKS UP 18 MONTHS FROM NOW AND SAY I CAN INSTALL THIS AND DO A BETTER JOB AT HALF THE PRICE WE MIGHT WANT TO -- IT MAY BE IN OUR BEST FINANCIAL INTEREST TO BUY OUT THE CONTRACT IF THAT'S AN OPTION.

I KNOW THAT'S A CAN RESOLVE TODAY.

DID -- IS ANYBODY AWARE OF STATE REGULATIONS? I PICKED UP ON SOME STATE REGULATIONS FOR PERMANENT OUT-OF-STATE PHONE CALLS.

IT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE THERE ARE ANY MORE LIKE INSIDE OF THE STATE.

I DIDN'T KNOW IF THERE WAS A SPREADSHEET THAT WAS SENT, WHICH HAD ALL THE STATES ON IT.

TEXAS WASN'T ONE OF THEM SO I WAS TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THAT SPREADSHEET, WHAT ITS RELEVANCE WAS TO OUR CONTRACT? I WAS WONDERING WHERE SOME OF THOSE.

IN OTHER WORDS ARE THERE STATES REGULATING THIS TYPE OF COMMERCE.

ARE THEY SAYING YOU CAN'T CHARGE MORE THAN ASKED TO A CALL TO AN INMATE? I THINK THE LONG DISTANCE CALLS IS AN FCC RULE FOR PHONE COMPANIES FOR NOT GOUGING JUST YOUR AVERAGE CITIZEN WE DON'T WANT THEM TO GET CHARGED $67 A MINUTE.

I WAS WONDERING IF THAT EVER CAME UP OR IF ANYONE WAS AWARE OF THAT.

THAT SPREADSHEET WAS PROVIDED BY SECURUS.

AND THAT IS SIMPLY INFORMATION ABOUT THE BUSINESS BEING DONE IN OTHER STATES.

I DID NOT KNOW IF SOME ARE GOVERNED BY LAWS â€" ONE ARTICLE I READ IT MENTIONED THIS COMPANY AND IT USE THE WORD OF OUTRAGEOUS FEES.

AT THAT POINT IT WAS IN NEW YORK THEY WERE PAYING $25 FOR A 15 MINUTE PHONE CALL.

I THINK MOST OF US WOULD AGREE THAT $25 FOR A 15 MINUTE PHONE CALL IS PROBABLY EXTREME AND EXTRAORDINARY.

SO I DON'T KNOW -- I'M TRYING TO PUT IN THE CONTEXT OF WHAT DOES SOMEBODY PAY? I HAVE A CELL PHONE WHICH HAS, I GUESS UNLIMITED MINUTES.

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I DON'T EVEN REALLY KNOW.

THERE'S NO WAY TO TELL WHAT I'M PAYING FOR IT.

CAN I SAY THIS REAL QUICK? JUST TO DOUBLE DOWN ON HIS QUESTION.

DOES SOMEONE KNOW IF THERE IS A FEELING? DOES SOMEONE KNOW IF THERE'S A CEILING ON WHAT CAN BE CHARGED.

YES.

IS THERE? IS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THE FCC REGULATES THOSE RATES NATIONWIDE, BUT REGARDING THE STATE, I AM NOT AWARE OF THERE BEING ANYTHING IN THE STATE.

SO COMMISSIONER? AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL, THEY CAN BE REGULATED BY THE FCC.

STATES CAN REGULATED BUT WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING IN TEXAS.

THE OTHER THING I WOULD TELL YOU THAT IS RIGHT NOW, UNDER THE PREVIOUS ADMINISTRATION, WITHIN THE LAST YEAR THERE WAS AN ATTEMPT BY THE FCC TO SOME OF THESE SPECIFIC TO PRISONS AND INMATES.

AND THAT WAS THROWN OUT BY FEDERAL COURT IN THE DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA.

THEY THROUGHOUT THAT RULING AND IT WASN'T A RULING IT WAS A RULE PUT FORTH BY THE FCC.

AND I BELIEVE IT WAS IN 2017.

BUT THAT BEING THE CASE, THERE HAS NOT BEEN ANY OTHER ATTEMPTS BY THE FCC TO REGULATE THIS WHATSOEVER.

SO THERE WAS SOME THOUGHT THAT CROSSED MY MIND WHEN I WAS READING THAT SPREADSHEET OF THE OTHER STATES THERE WAS SOME VARIATION IN THERE AND I DID NOT KNOW IF THAT WAS DUE TO REGULATIONS IN DIFFERENT STATES.

I THINK THAT COULD BE BASED ON THE NUMBER OF KIOSKS PLACED THEY ARE IN THE CALL VOLUMES ANTICIPATE.

AND TO TRY TO SEPARATE THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN APRIL: A SERVICE -- I'M THINKING OF JUST MAKING A PHONE CALL.

I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT A VIDEO CONVERSATION.

I'M NOT TALK ABOUT ANY OTHER SERVICE.

I WANT TO SEPARATE THAT THAT IS -- FOR ME, THAT'S WHAT MY BIGGEST CONCERN IS IS THAT SOMEONE IS ALLOWED TO COMMUNICATE WITH THEIR FAMILY, OBVIOUSLY THEY'RE ALLOWED TO COMMUNICATE WITH THE LAWYER THEY'RE ALLOWED TO COMMUNICATE IN A CONVENIENT, SAFE AND SECURE WAY.

YOU KNOW, IF THEY WISH TO NO END FOR ME, NOW SEEKING THAT IF SOMEONE WANTS TO MAKE A VIDEO CALL, I THINK THAT'S GREAT THAT WE HAVE THAT CAPABILITY IF THEY'RE WILLING TO PAY FOR THAT.

IT DOES NOT SEEM TO BE LIKE IN EXORBITANT FEE AND I UNDERSTAND FOR SOME PEOPLE IT MAY BE.

THAT IS MORE COMPLICATED.

THAT'S EQUIPMENT THAT HAS TO BE SECURED AND EVERYTHING ELSE.

AS PROBABLY -- I UNDERSTAND THERE'S A COS ASSOCIATED WITH THAT.

SAME THING WITH THE VIDEO GRAMMAR LOOKING AT $0.75 OR $0.50 TO BE ABLE TO SEND A MESSAGE TO YOUR CHILD THAT SAYS HEY, HAPPY BIRTHDAY.

WHATEVER THE CASE IS, THAT SEEMS LIKE A REASONABLE CHARGE FOR A SERVICE THAT I'M SURE PEOPLE TAKE ADVANTAGE OF DURING THOSE TYPES OF TIMES.

SO I'M TRYING TO LOOK AT THE CALL SIDE OF THINGS.

AS WE GET INTO THE $0.32 A MINUTE FOR THE CALL? YOU HAVE A LOT MORE EXPERIENCE IN THE JAIL AND CAPTAIN YOU BEEN WORKING IN THAT JAIL FOR HOW LONG? 28 YEARS.

JUST TO DROP -- LET'S HAVE A WHOLE LAPEL O ALL THE PINS (LAUGHING).

JUST IN YOUR EXPERIENCE WITH INMATES, UTILIZING THESE TYPES OF SERVICES, LET'S GO TO MAKING PHONE CALLS.

WHAT DO YOU HERE.

TO INMATES AND NOT GETTING ENOUGH CAPABILITIES TO MAKE MY CALLS? WHAT'S THE -- GIVE ME SOME BACKGROUND ON HOW IT WORKS? SO DEPENDING ON THE SIZE OF THE LIVING AREA THAT THEREIN DETERMINES HOW MANY PHONES THAT ARE PLACED IN THEIR AND IF YO HAVE 24 INMATES, THEN YOU MAY HAVE TWO PHONES -- TO ACTUAL PHONES IN THE ONE VIDEO VISITATION UNIT.

SO OF COURSE, THEY HAVE TO SHARE THAT.

BUT WHAT I'M FINDING BASED ON NUMBERS FOR 2019 IS THAT THE VIDEO VISITS HAVE BEEN VERY POPULAR.

AND THE REASON FOR THAT IS BECAUSE FAMILIES DO NOT HAVE TO TRAVEL DOWN TO HAYS COUNTY.

AGAIN, WE KNOW FOR FACT THAT NOT EVERYONE LIVES IN HAYS COUNTY THAT'S INCARCERATED.

THEY HAVE TO PACK THEIR FAMILIES UP AND IF THEY'RE BRINGING CHILDREN IN, THEY HAVE TO WAIT IN LINE.

HERE IN OUR VISITATION AREA.

AND THEN THE COST ENDS UP BEING MORE EXPENSIVE THAN IF THEY WOULD'VE JUST MADE A VIDEO VISIT.

BECAUSE THE KIDS ARE GOING TO WANT TO GO OUT.

THERE'S A COST FOR GAS.

QUICK PASS -- FAST PASS.

SO LOOKING AT THE 2019 NUMBERS, I DID SEE THAT THERE WAS AN INCREASE IN THE VIDEO VISITS.

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AGAIN, LIKE I SAID, WE ARE NOT FORCING THEM TO DO THAT.

THEY HAVE THE OPTION TO USE THE PHONE.

THEY CAN COME IN AND USE OF VIDEO VISITS.

AND SO ON-SITE VISITS WERE -- WHICH IS STILL A LOT FOR US, BUT WE ARE HAVING ABOUT 600 -- 650 IN PERSON VISITS A MONTH.

IT'S WHAT WERE DOING.

AND THEN FOR THE VIDEO VISITS, WE ARE ACTUALLY AVERAGING 2400 VIDEO VISITS PER MONTH.

CAN I ASK ONE QUESTION IN THAT SAME VEIN, IF THE INMATE PICKS UP A TELEPHONE AND WANTS TO CALL A LOVED ONE JUST LIKE WHAT I ENVISION THE MOVIES, THERE'S A PAYPHONE YOU CAN PICK IT UP WHEN I GET A PAPER THAT CALLS IT'S A FIVE MINUTE CALL? WELL IT HAVE TO DO THE MATH, BUT UNDER THE CURRENT CONTRACT THAT WERE IN, THAT 15 MINUTE CALL WILL COST THE FAMILY $10.41.

A REGULAR PHONE CALL.

JUST PHONE.

BY RENEWING CONTACTED $0.32 A MINUTE SO IT WILL BE $0.60 A LITTLE OVER $0.60 IF THERE ON THE PHONE FOR TWO MINUTES.

ARE BRINGING HIM BACK TO NO LONGER.

THERE WILL BE NO CONNECTION, NO CONNECTION FEE ATTACHED.

THAT'S HOW I FEEL.

THE 20 MINUTE VIDEO IS CHEAPER THAN A 15 MINUTE CALL.

YES.

UNDER THE NEW CONTRACT IT WILL BE.

THEY GET FIVE MORE MINUTES AND IT'S LIK MAYBE $0.10.

AND THE COSTS ARE LIMITED TO 15 MINUTES PER CALL? AS THEY CUT OFF AFTER 15 MINUTES AND THAT'S BECAUSE YOU CAN'T HAVE ONE INMATE TALKING UP THE PHONE FOR HOURS.

THAT CREATES PROBLEMS IN THE INMATE LIVING AREAS BETWEEN THEMSELVES.

THERE HAS TO BE A CUT OF.

AND MOVING FORWARD, I KNOW YOU TALKED ABOUT 24 INMATES IN TWO PHONES IN THAT AREA.

IS THAT THE NORM? OR ARE WE GOING TO BE PLACING ANOTHER PHONE - I THINK SECURUS DETERMINED THAT BASED ON THE AMOUNT OF IT INMATES IN THE AREA.

THAT'LL CHANGE BECAUSE IT WILL BE 48 INMATES IN ONE POD.

WE WILL HAVE TO DOUBLE WHAT WE ARE PROVIDING THEM NOW.

ONE QUESTION AFTER YOUR DONE.

IS THERE A SIGN SOMEWHERE THAT TELLS TH INMATES HEY, IF YOU MAKE A CALL IS GOING TO COST YOU $0.40 AND IF YOU MAKE A VIDEO CALL IT'S GONNA COST YOU 10 BUCKS? THERE'S NOT A SIGN, BUT THE FAMILIES, WHEN THEY ARE -- THEY CAN GO ON TO THE SECURUS WEBSITE AND YOU CAN SEARCH WHATEVE COUNTY THAT THEY DO BUSINESS WITH TO FIND OUT WHAT THE RATES ARE.

I WAS GOING TO SAY I KNEW I HAD IT SOMEWHERE IN MY PAPERWORK.

I HAD THE FEDERAL NUMBER FOR THE FEDERAL -- FOR FEDERAL PRISONERS, IF IT'S AN INTRASTATE CALL -- THAT'S THE ONLY THING THE FCC DETERMINES OTHERWISE IT WILL ONLY BE DONE -- WITHIN THE STATE AND THEY IT AT $0.21 FOR OUTSIDE STATE CALLS.

THAT'S THE ONLY THING THEY CAN.

THE OTHER QUESTION I HAD -- AND SIMILAR TO WHAT COMMISSIONER SHALL HAD -- BECAUSE WE OUTSOURCE INMATES I KNOW OTHER COUNTIES DO NOT OFFER NEAR THE SERVICES WE DO.

AND SO I WOULD LOVE TO -- AS YOU HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS OR SPEAK WITH INMATES, I WOULD LOVE TO HEAR FROM SOME OF THOSE INMATES THAT HAVE BEEN OUTSOURCED THAT WE ARE HOLDING HERE NOW OR THAT HAVE SERVED IN OTHER -- I KNOW WE HAVE MANY INMATES WERE OBSERVED IN OTHER FACILITIES OF THE STATE AND OTHER COUNTIES.

I'D LOVE TO HEAR THEIR FEEDBACK AS TO WHETHER OR NOT THEY VIEWED THIS AS A POSITIVE OR NEGATIVE, THE ABILITY TO DO THESE VIDEO CALLS AND THOSE KINDS OF THINGS.

IT WOULD BE GREAT TO HEAR FROM THEIR DEFENSE ATTORNEYS BECAUSE I'M SURE THAT GIVEN THE FACT THAT WE HAVE ALWAYS OUTSOURCED INMATES, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE CONTINUALLY HEAR HIS FORMER DEFENSE COUNSEL THAT THEY DON'T HAVE DIRECT ACCESS TO THE INMATES THAT THEY ARE SERVING.

IT WOULD SEEM THAT THIS WOULD BE ACTUALLY A POSITIVE THING AND ONE THAT THEY WOULD BE SUPPORTIVE OF.

I FEEL WITHOUT SAYING A BUT I THINK WER GONNA WRAP THIS UP.

ONE MORE QUESTION.

SORRY, JUDGE.

IT'S KIND OF A -- I THINK I KNOW THE ANSWER JUST WANT TO SAY IT SO THAT IT'S ON THE RECORD.

DID I OR ANY RECORD MEMBER EVER PUSH YOU OR ANY OTHER ADMINISTRATOR OF THE JAIL TO DO BUSINESS WITH SECURUS? DID YOU EVER FEEL THAT THERE WAS SOME EFFORT GOING ON BY ANYONE SITTING UP HERE THAT FELT LIKE WE HAVE TO DO BUSINESS WIT SECURUS OR WE HAVE A PREFERENCE FOR SECURUS OR WE WANT TO MAKE MORE MONEY BECAUSE OF SECURUS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

NO ONE HAS EVER MADE ME FEEL THAT WAY BELIEVE IN THAT MANNER.

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SO WE WOULD -- I WOULD TAKE THIS -- HAVE BEEN AROUND THE COUNTY WHILE AND I UNDERSTAND HOW WE OPERATE, YOU WILL NEED TO PROVIDE COMMUNICATIONS IN THE JAIL.

SECURUS IS BEEN IN JAIL.

ORGAN OPEN NEW HUIZINGA IN ORDER TO PROVIDE COMMUNICATION AND YOU'VE LAID OUT WHY YOU HAVE CHOSEN SECURUS.

BUT THAT IS YOUR LINE OF WORK, RIGHT? THAT'S WHAT YOU DO FOR LIVING YOUR PROFESSIONAL RUNNING A JAIL 20 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE THAT THIS IS THE BEST SOLUTION FOR US AT THIS TIME? YES, SIR.

I DO.

AND THE JUDGE, I WANT TO ASK A QUESTION BECAUSE YOU MADE A STATEMENT ABOUT SOMETHING REFERENCING THIS -- THIS AGREEMENT ABOUT THE EMPLOYEES OF THE COUNTY MUST BE ABLE TO DO THEIR JOBS AND NOT BE OBSTRUCTED BY OTHER -- IN REFERENCE TO THE DISCUSSION WE HAD I WOULD ASK WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? WHAT YOU BELIEVE OR JUST SOMEONE BELIEVE THAT THERE IS A BOARD MEMBER THAT IS OBSTRUCTING OUR COUNTY EMPLOYEES WHEN IT COMES TO THIS ENTIRE ENGAGEMENT? IT SEEMS TO BE THAT WE HAVE SETTINGS WHERE ELECTED OFFICIALS HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO PERSUADE, ENCOURAGE, FOR DEPARTMENT HEADS TO TAKE A CERTAIN DIRECTION.

AND IF IT'S NOT EQUALLY.

IF IT'S A DEPARTMENT HEAD -- IF IT'S NOT EQUALLY SHARED WITH EXPOSURE TIME OR CONVERSATION PIECES OR WHATEVER, THAT HA THE OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK LOPSIDED.

BUT I DON'T HAVE A SPECIFIC STATEMENT TO YO ON A MORE CONCISE ANSWER.

I MEAN, IF THERE WAS.

IF ANYONE FELT -- IF ANYONE IN JAIL STAFF, AUDITORS STAFF, FELT THAT THERE WAS A COURT MEMBER THAT WAS SOMEHOW TRYING T OBSTRUCT THEIR ABILITY TO DO THEIR JOB, EITHER NEGOTIATING THIS, DOING THE BACKGROUND WORK OR LOOKING AT THE ACTUAL UNUSUAL REVENUES THE TERMS OF THE AGREEMENT, I WOULD HOPE THAT THEY WOULD BRING THAT TO THE ATTENTION OF THE PROPER PERSON INTO THE COURT AS A WHOLE.

I DON'T LIKE HEARING THESE ACCUSATIONS MADE.

YES.

THAT SOMEHOW THERE'S SOME OBSTRUCTION BECAUSE YOU SAID YOU DID NOT EVEN KNOW WHO KIMBERLEY HE WAS.

IF SOMEONE ASKED ME WHO PROVIDES A SERVICE AND ARE JAIL, SIX MONTHS AGO I WOULD'VE HAD A HARD TIME COMING UP WITH THE NAME SECURUS.

I MIGHT'VE REMEMBERED IT FROM SOME PREVIOUS COURT ACTION, BUT I'VE NEVER MET ANYONE FROM SECURUS.

I DO TRUST THE CAPTAIN AND I DO BELIEVE SH HAS PUT A LOT OF EFFORT INTO TRYING TO FIND A SOLUTION THAT WORKS AND I DO THANK HER FOR THAT AND I THINK ANYTIME HE OF THESE FINANCIAL AGREEMENTS THERE'S ALWAYS GOOD OPPORTUNITIES TO GO THROUGH THEM AND MAKE SURE THAT WHAT THE COMPANY SAYS THEY OWE US IS TRUE.

AND WE SHOULD INVEST IN TIME MAKING SURE THAT THAT'S THE CASE.

IN THE OTHER IDEA I HAVE IT GOES ALONG WITH THE DETERMINATION BUT IT'S AN IDEA.

IF WE FELT THAT THERE WAS SOME DAMAGE BEING DONE TO INDIVIDUALS IN OUR JAIL THEY COULD NOT AFFORD TO HAVE BASIC COMMUNICATION, WE COULD ALWAYS ASSIGN A CERTAIN PERCENTAGE OF THE REVENUE FOR A MINIMUM ALLOWED.

I SAW SOME STATES DOING THIS.

I DON'T THINK ANY -- I DID NOT SEE ANYONE IN TH STATE OF TEXAS JONAH BUT I SAW STAYS DOING IT MAY BE BECAUSE OF CLAIMS MADE BY OUTSIDE ENTITIES OF --, YOU KNOW SOME SORT OF CIVIL LIBERTIES ISSUES.

IT COULD BE SOMETHING THAT WE COULD CONSIDER IF NOT IN THIS AGREEMENT BUT IN A FUTURE AGREEMENT FOR COMMUNICATIONS TO AS THE COMPANY TO ALLOW IT TO FACTOR INTO THE COST SHARE A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF TIME PER INMATE PER WEEK THAT THAT IS COVERED.

FOR INSTANCE, FIVE MINUTES.

YOU GET A FIVE-MINUTE PHONE CALL IS INCLUDED.

ANYTHING BEYOND THAT, IS COVERED LIKE THAT.

I MEAN, WE HAVE -- AT ANY GIVEN TIME ABOUT 700 INMATES WITHIN OUR CUSTODY RIGHT NOW AND HOPEFULLY WILL BRING THAT BACK AND REDO SEPARATE ACROSS THE STATE OF TEXAS RIGHT NOW.

IF WE HAD 700 INMATES JUST MAKE SOME COMMON GOAL.

THEY PROBABLY NEVER SEE A JAIL CELL AGAIN FOR THE REST OF THEIR LIFE OR I HOPE NOT.

WE COULD CONSIDER THAT IN A NEGOTIATION TO FACTOR THAT INTO THE CONTRACT IF WE FELT THAT WAS -- WAS AN ISSUE.

IF WE FELT THAT THERE WERE INDIVIDUALS THAT'S HOW WERE NOT ABLE TO

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COMMUNICATE PURELY BECAUSE OF THOSE FEES.

I'M NOT SURE THAT EXISTS.

IT'S SOMETHING FOR US TO PAY ATTENTION TO ANY COULD BE SOMETHING FOR US TO CONSIDER AS WE MOVE FORWARD.

THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER.

AND I WILL SAY THAT WHEN COMMISSIONER INGALSBE AND MYSELF HAVE THE INTEREST IN SHORTENING A CONTRACT WITH SOMEONE WE BEEN DOING BUSINESS WITH FOR SO MANY YEARS, AND WE ARE INTERESTED IN GOING OUT FOR BID AND HOLY SMOKES, THANKS BUT I'M GOING TO CALL THE OTHER COUNTIES TO SEE WHAT THEY'RE DOING BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT ON OUR PATH.

AND I'D LIKE TO LEARN MORE.

AND SO WHEN THE BUSINESS MIND IN MY HEAD COMES ON ON THIS ISSUE ABOUT COMPETITIVE BIDDING AND ABOUT OPEN TO EVERYONE AN LET'S GET THE BEST DEAL FOR THE COUNTY, AND IT'S CLEAR THAT WE PASSED THE BOND FOR JAIL IN 2016, RIGHT? IT'S CLEAR THAT WE ARE -- FOR YEARS NOW WERE BUILDING IN JAIL BUT IT'S NOW URGENT THAT WE ADDRESS THIS.

IT JUST -- IT LENDS ITSELF -- THE STAGE SEEM AND FEELS LIKE -- I'M EXPANDING BETTER IN MY THOUGHT PROCESS.

IT SEEMS AND FEELS LIKE IT'S RIGHT FOR ELIMINATING COMPETITION.

AND I'M NOT A FAN OF THAT.

I'M A FAN OF OPENING UP TO COMPETITION.

AND SO THAT'S WHY THIS WHOLE THING IS IN THE POSITION.

BUT COMMISSIONER CONNIE ANOTHER QUESTION? I HAD ONE MORE QUESTION.

DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA -- AND THIS MIGHT NOT BE A NUMBER THAT YOU HAVE OFF THE TOP YOUR HEAD -- BUT DO YOU KNOW HOW MANY INDIVIDUA INMATES WE HAVE IN OUR JAIL OVER A ONE-YEAR PERIOD? IF WE HAVE 500 A MONTH, HOW MANY DO WE HAVE TOTAL? WELL I'M ESTIMATING THAT WE ARE BOOKING BETWEEN 6 TO 8000 INMATES A YEAR.

6 TO 8000.

SO BY DOING THE QUICK MATH, THIS IS TO FOLLOW UP A LITTLE BIT.

TO FOLLOW UP ON COMMISSIONER SHELLS STATEMENT, THAT MINIMUM.

IF WE AS A COURT WANTED TO GIVE A MINIMUM, AND WE WANTED TO LOOK AT THIS, EVEN PRIOR TO THE END OF THAT THREE AND HALF YEAR PROCESS, RIGHT NOW, AT $0.35 A MINUTE, IF OUR REVENUE WAS $185,000 LAST YEAR, THAT'S 5000 -- THAT'S MINUTES THAT WE COULD PAY FOR.

THAT, IF THE JUDGE IS WILLING AND INSIDIOUS BUDGET TO TAKE THE REVENUE AND PUT IT IN -- THIS GOING INTO THE GENERAL FUND AND OFFSET IT AND RETURN IT BACK TO THE JAIL FOR THE SERVICES WE COULD PROVIDE THOSE SERVICES TO INMATES.

AT LEAST OVER HALF A MILLION MINUTES THAT WE COULD GIVE DOSE INMATES.

AND THOSE PHONE CALLS -- I THINK THAT I -- I WOULD PROBABLY BE SUPPORTIVE OF THAT IF THERE WAS A MINIMUM.

BUT IF WE HAVE AN ISSUE WITH THAT WHERE WE ARE CONCERNED ABOUT IT OVER THE NEXT THREE AND HALF YEARS WE MIGHT NOT BE ABLE TO GET A BETTER DEAL FOR THE INMATES TO GET THAT MINIMUM IF THAT'S A CONCERN.

I THINK THAT MIGHT BE ONE WAY TO GO ABOUT IT.

6000 INMATES YEAR.

THAT WOULD BE 87 MINUTES WOULD BE GIVEN EVERY INMATE.

THERE'S TWO THOUGHTS TO THAT AREAIDEA.

THE FIRST ONE IS, THE COMPETITIVE BIDDING PROCESS HAS NOT BEEN -- I HAVE NOT BEEN SATISFIED AT THIS MOMENT IN TIME.

SO WE WOULD BE SUBSIDIZING THE CORPORATIO TO CHARGE US BUT I DON'T BELIEVE YET, TO BE A NONCOMPETITIVE PRICE JUST IN THE SPIRIT OF SAYING WE ARE DOING A GOOD JOB.

NOW WE'RE JUST -- I FEEL BAD BY SAYING IT WERE JUST GIVING WAY CORPORATE WELFARE ON THE TAXPAYERS DIME.

I LIKE THE SPIRIT OF THE IDEA BUT WE NEED SOME TWEAKING.

ARE THERE ANY OTHER COMMENTS BEFORE WE TAKE A VOTE? MY ONLY COMMENT IS I WOULD SUGGEST THAT HAPPEN IN NEGOTIATION, THE TERMS. FOR INSTANCE, IT'S A GIVE-AND-TAKE.

THE COMPANY HAS TO SHOW WE ARE INVESTING THIS AMOUNT IT TAKES IS MANY YEARS TO GET A RETURN, THAT'S WHERE THEIR PROFIT -- THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE BASING THEIR CALLS ON DURING THE NEGOTIATIONS WE WILL FORGO THIS IF YOU DO THIS.

OR.

EXACTLY.

THAT'S THE TYPE OF THING.

I'M TALKING PHONE CALLS.

I'M TALKING FOR THE BASIC ABILITY AT A MINIMU ONCE A WEEK OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT -- WHERE I WOULD CONSIDER THESE AUXILIARY SERVICES.

WERE NOT USING ANY TAXPAYER DOLLARS FOR ANY OF THIS CONTRACT HE.

NO.

THERE'S NO TAX DOLLARS INVOLVED.

AND JUDGE, I THINK AS WE MOVE FORWARD, I WOULD LIKE TO ASK THE AUDITOR'S OFFICE TO DO A MORE IN-DEPTH AUDIT.

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I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE IMPORTANT FOR US TO JUST MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE SATISFIED WITH THE NUMBERS THAT THEY'RE SAYING WE ARE GETTING AND THAT OF COURSE COMMISSIONER SHOW MENTIONED THE BUYOUT OPTION.

AND I'M NOT SURE, MARK, IF WE APPROVED THIS CONTRACT TODAY, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE CAN STILL LOOK AT? OR NOT? .

WHAT SPECIFICALLY, COMMISSIONER? THE BUYOUT OPTION IF WE FIND THAT WITHIN THE THREE AND HALF YEARS, THAT THERE'S SOMEBODY THAT COMES IN AND GOES AND TALK TO JULIE AND THE SHERIFF.

THERE IS A BUYOUT PROVISION IN IT.

AND AT SOME TIME DURING THE PENDENCY OF THE CONTRACT THE COURT DETERMINES THAT IT WANTS TO GO IN ANOTHER DIRECTION, WE CAN ENTERTAIN THAT.

WE WOULD HAVE TO LOOK AT IT AT THAT POINT IN TIME.

SO THERE IS AN OPTION.

YES.

DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING THAT YOU WANT T ADD? WELL, MY OTHER QUESTION IS MORE THAN HAPPY TO AMEND MY ORIGINAL -- MY ORIGINAL MOTION TO ADD A PROVISION RELATIVE T INCREASED AUDITING IF THAT WOULD BE ACCEPTABLE TO THE AUDITOR, IF YOU HA SPECIFIC LANGUAGE.

NO.

IF THE COURTS WOULD LIKE THE INSTRUCTION TO DO SO AND WE WILL ADD TO OUR AUDIT SCHEDULE.

I FEEL BETTER WITH THAT.

WITHOUT OBJECTION, THE MOTION I MADE ON ITEM 21 TO THE END AFTER THE WORDS AT THE JAIL FACILITY, I'D LIKE TO INCLUDE AND REQUIRE THE AUDITOR TO PERFORM A MORE DETAILED AUDIT OF THE SERVICES IN AN AUDIT SHE FEELS APPROPRIATE.

ACCESS IS APPROPRIATE.

I MEANT FOR THE ORIGINAL MOTION TO INCLUD THE TRUSTING BUT TERRIFYING, THE AUDITING OF THE DOCUMENTATION SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER SHALL.

ARE THERE ANY OTHER COMMENTS? I'M JUST GOING TO MAKE ONE MORE, JUDGE AND THEN I'M DONE.

I REALLY JUST WANT TO REITERATE, SOME OF THE CALLS THAT I HAD RECEIVED -- AND I WILL SAY NAME, BUT I DID RECEIVE A CALL FROM AN AUNT OF MINE THAT WAS VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THE COST OF HER PHONE BILL WHEN SHE SAW THAT TO HER SON THAT WAS IN JAIL.

AND YOU KNOW, IT MADE ME FEEL REALLY BAD THAT SHE WAS SAYING MY SON IS IN HERE AND IT IS COSTING ME A LOT TO TALK TO HIM.

AND SO, I KNOW PERSONALLY, THAT THAT DOE AFFECT FAMILIES.

AND I DID NOT REALIZE THAT IT IS LIMITED TO A 1 MINUTE PHONE CALL.

AND SO SHE MUST HAVE PAID THE $10.41 AND NOW IS GOING DOWN TO $4.80.

AND AS MUCH AS I AGREE THAT -- AND I TALKED ABOUT THIS MANY TIMES, AND I KNOW IT'S DIFFICULT TO GET AGENDA ITEMS IN TIME WITH ALL THE BACKUP AND I THINK WE STILL NEED TO DO A BETTER JOB WITH THAT BECAUSE I DO BELIEVE WE NEED AMPLE TIME TO REALLY READ OVER THE MATERIAL TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE UNDERSTANDING AND ASKED THE QUESTIONS THAT ARE NECESSARY IN ORDER TO MAKE THE BEST INFORMED DECISION.

AND SO, I WOULD JUST ENCOURAGE ALL OF US -- I KNOW IT'S HARD TO DO THAT -- WE TRY AND GET OUR AGENDA ITEMS SUBMITTED IN TIME SO THAT WE CAN HAVE AMPLE TIME TO REVIEW, BUT BECAUSE THAT IS THE MAJOR COMPLAINT THAT I HAD RECEIVED, REGARDING COSTS AND WE ARE REDUCING THE COSTS, AND IF WE DON'T DO THIS, IT REVERTS BACK TO THE HIGHER COST, YOU KNOW, THAT -- THAT PUTS ME IN A POSITION WHERE I FEEL THAT I CAN SUPPORT THIS BECAUSE OF THE 60 PERCENT REDUCTION IN COST FOR THE INMATES.

AND TO ADD TO IT, I'M NOW CURIOUS WHAT GUADALUPE COUNTY IS DOING.

BECAUSE WERE GOING TO VOTE ON THIS RIGHT NOW.

BUT WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY'RE DOING AND HOW SUCCESSFUL IT IS.

AND NOW I FEEL I'M EVEN LESS PREPARED WITH A TRUE ASSESSMENT.

TO ME, JUST WANT TO -- OR ABOUT ADD YEARS TO THIS WITHOUT KNOWING WHAT OUR NEIGHBORS ARE DOING.

WELL, THERE IS A BUYOUT OPTION, JUDGE.

AND I KNOW THAT THAT MAY COST US MORE THAN WE WANT, YOU KNOW, TO DO, BUT.

CAN WE BRING IT BACK NEXT WEEK.

.

ANY OTHER COMMENTS? I MEAN THE BACKUP WAS INCLUDED.

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THE AGENDA THAT I HAVE THAT WAS EMAILED HAS THE CONTRACTS.

IT DOES.

THAT'S RIGHT.

WHAT WAS INCLUDED WAS THAT SPREADSHEET ABOUT THESE OTHER STATES.

HE COULD NOT BE INCLUDED IN THE PACKET, THE FILE WAS TOO LARGE AND COULD NOT BE MANIPULATED.

SO WE SENT IT BY EMAIL TO THE COURT MEMBERS.

IT OR SOIT ALSO INCLUDE SOME PROPRIETARY INFORMATION I'M NOT SURE THAT'S HOW THAT'S DISCLOSED AND IT WAS A SAFER BET TO EMAIL IT TO THE COURT.

ANY COMMENTS? OKAY.

PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

(ROLL CALL).

PLEASE OPEN AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 22.

22.

DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION TO AUTHORIZE THE COUNTY JUDGE TO EXECUTE A MASTER SERVICES AGREEMENT BETWEEN HAYS COUNTY AND SECURUS TECHNOLOGY, LLC, RELATED TO TABLET SERVICES AND APPLICATION IN THE JAIL FACILITY, AND AUTHORIZING EXEMPTION UNDER SECTION 262.0 24A7 OF THE TEXAS LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE.

ALL RIGHT.

COMMISSIONER.

[22. Discussion and possible action to authorize the County Judge to execute a Master Services Agreement between Hays County and Securus Technologies, LLC, related to tablet services and application in the jail facility, and to authorize an exemption under Section 262.024(a)(7) of the Texas Local Government Code. ]

SURE, JUDGE.

THIS IS AN AUTHORIZATION FOR THE SHERIFF TO ACTUALLY CONTRACT WITH SECURUS FOR THE INMATE TABLETS THEMSELVES.

THE TABLETS AND APPLICATIONS, THEY ARE PROVIDING THESE SERVICES AND TO UNDER THE VOTE THAT WE JUST TOOK WE ARE GOING TO BE ABLE TO EXPAND THOSE.

HOWEVER, PART OF THAT -- THE NASPO CONTRACTED DID NOT INCLUDE THE COST OF THE TABLETS ITSELF.

I'LL LET THE CAPTAIN SPEAK TO THAT.

IF THERE'S ANYTHING ADDITION.

THE ONLY THING WE ARE GOING TO ADD IS THAT THE TABLETS ARE A COMMON IN THE DIRECT SUPERVISION MODEL.

SO WHAT WERE DOING.

WERE NOT GOING TO JUMP RIGHT INTO IT.

WE ARE GOING TO EASE INTO IT AS WE GET CLOSER TO GETTING INTO OUR DIRECT SUPERVISION AREA.

BUT WHAT THIS DOES ALLOW BY ALLOWING US TO CONTRACT THROUGH SECURUS TO THE TABLETS IT ALLOWS US TO GET AWAY FROM PAPER REQUESTS.

WE WILL BE ABLE TO SAVE MONEY THERE AND THEY WILL BE ABLE TO FILE THE ROUTINE FORM SUCH AS THEIR GRIEVANCES, WE WILL HAVE THE INMATE HANDBOOK ON THE KIOSK.

THEY CAN ORDER COMMISSARY.

THEY CAN MAKE PHONE CALLS FROM THOSE TABLETS.

THEY'LL BE ABLE TO HAVE THE MESSAGING FROM THOSE TABLETS.

ADDITIONAL APPLICATIONS â€" MAC THERE'S A LOT OF FREE APPLICATIONS ON THE TABLETS, BUT THEY WILL BE ABLE TO SEARCH FOR JOBS RELIGIOUS, EDUCATIONAL RESOURCES.

SO AGAIN, IT IS COMMON IN DIRECT SUPERVISION MODEL AND OTHER COUNTIES HAVE ALREADY GONE TO IT SUCH AS TRAVIS, GUADALUPE, FORT BEND AND SOME OF MY CONVERSATIONS WITH SOME OF THOSE AGENCIES, THEY'VE INDICATED TO ME THAT IT'S VERY SUCCESSFUL.

THE INMATES HAVE ALL THESE ADDITIONAL TOOLS, RESEARCH THE LAW LIBRARY FROM THE TABLETS SO THEY DON'T HAVE TO SIT IN FRONT OF THE KIOSK IF THEY CHOOSE NOT TO.

AND THERE IS ADDITIONAL EDUCATION INFORMATION AND THEY CAN SEARCH MANY DIFFERENT THINGS.

THANK YOU.

WITH THAT, I WOULD MOVE THAT THE COURT AUTHORIZE THE SHERIFF TO CONTRACT WITH SECURUS TECHNOLOGIES FOR THE INMAT TABLETS AND APPLICATION.

EMOTION AND SECOND.

NOWHERE IN THE COMMENTS PORTION OF OUR AGENDA ITEM.

COMMISSIONER, IF YOU WOULD, PLEASE INCLUDED -- BE REREAD THAT IF I COULD RESTATE THE MOTION QUICK STRIKE THAT.

REVERSE IT.

(LAUGHING).

QUICK STOP THAT.

REVERSE IT.

NO.

NOT BE MOVED AUTHORIZE THE COUNTY JUDG TO EXECUTE A MASTER SERVICES AGREEMENT BETWEEN HAYS COUNTY AND SECURUS TECHNOLOGIES LLC RELATED TO TABLET AND TO AUTHORIZING EXEMPTION UNDER SECTION 262.024 A7 OF THE TEXAS LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE.

WE HAVE A MOTION IN A SECOND.

COMMENTS? WE HAVE A LETTER ON FILE FROM MR. MCGILL RELATING TO A7 EXEMPTION FYI.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU SAID? WE HAVE A LETTER ON FILE FROM JEFF MCGILL RELATED TO THE TABLETS BEING PART OF A -- A COMPONENT PART OF THE SYSTEM THAT W VOTED ON A PREVIOUS ITEM WHICH IS REQUIRED UNDER THE LAW.

WE DO HAVE THAT LETTER.

THANK YOU.

OF THE APPLE PADS OR WAS THE BRAND OF THEM PROPRIETARY? I DON'T KNOW.

THEIR DETENTION GREAT.

THERE YOU GO.

HEAVY DUTY.

ALL RIGHT.

GOOD DEAL.

GOOD DEAL.

COMMISSIONERS, ADDITIONAL COMMENTS? SEEMS LIKE A GOOD THING FOR INMATES.

ALL RIGHT.

PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

(ROLL CALL).

PLEASE OPEN AGENDA ITEMS 2320 BOARD 25 IN EXECUTIVE SESSION.

23 COUNSEL AND DELIBERATION REGARDING AL INDIVIDUAL POSITIONS IN THE HAYS COUNTY OFFICES OF EMERGENCY SERVICES.

24, REGARDING PENDING AND/OR CONTEMPLATED LITIGATION INVOLVING HAYS

[02:00:07]

COUNTY AND 25, REGARDING THE PURCHASE, EXCHANGE OR VALUE OF RIGHT-OF-WAY

[Executive Session]

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