F.2. Adopt a Proclamation recognizing July 20-24, 2026, as Pretrial, Probation, and Parole Supervision Week. INGALSBE/FACUNDO

[G.21. Authorize payment of a one-year software subscription with Motorola Solutions for $2,975.03 for two mobile license plate readers mounted on one Sheriff's Office highway interdiction vehicle. HAMMER/HIPOLITO]

>> G21. AUTHORIZED PAYMENT OF A ONE YEAR SOFTWARE SUBSCRIPTION WITH MOTOROLA SOLUTIONS FOR $2975.03 FOR TWO MOBILE LICENSE PLATE READERS MOUNTED ON ONE SHERIFF'S OFFICE HIGHWAY -- HIGHWAY INTRODUCTION VEHICLE.

>> SO MOVED. >> SECOND.

>> A MOTION AND A SECOND. ANY COMMENTS?

>> WE HAVE AN EMAIL. >> LET'S GO WITH EMAIL FIRST.

>> FROM NATHAN PENAL. URGING YOU TO VOTE AGAINST AGENDA ITEM 21. WHICH WOULD ALLOW MOTOROLA SOFTWARE TO BE INSTALLED ON A -- SHERIFF VEHICLE.

WITH USE OF AI IT ALLOWS THE CAPTURE OF NOT ONLY PARTIAL LICENSE PLATE BUT VEHICLE MAKE, MODEL, YEAR, COLOR, ACCESSORIES.

DAMAGE AND WRITING OR BUMPER STICKERS.

THESE AND OTHER WILL CREATE MANY WARRANT LISTS LEADING TO FALSE MATCHES AND MAKING LIFE LESS SAFE OR INNOCENT.

THE DATA ARE SHARED WITH ANYONE ELSE THAT HAS THE SAME SOFTWARE WHETHER WE HAVE AN AGREEMENT WITH THEM OR NOT INCLUDING ICE AND SOFTWARE IS INTEGRATED WITH OTHER SAFETY PLATFORMS. IS AN ANTI-DEMOCRATIC MASS SURVEILLANCE NIGHTMARE ONE WOULD EXPECT TO FIND IN CHINA, NOT THE UNITED STATES.

HAYS COUNTY AND OTHER LAW ENFORCEMENT ENTITIES WILL AT MOST ABUSE THEIR POWER -- AS OTHERS HAVE ACROSS THE COUNTRY.

I DO NOT TRUST -- IT WILL ERODE OUR CIVIL LIBERTIES, LEAD TO MORE FALSE ARRESTS, DISTURB INNOCENT LIVES AND INCREASE MASS SURVEILLANCE IN AUTHORIZATION. STUDIES THAT FIND CRIME REDUCTION WITH USE OF THE CAMERAS HAVE QUESTIONABLE METHODS AND ARE OFTEN FUNDED -- WITH TECHNOLOGIES AND THEREFORE CANNOT BE TRUSTED. STORIES THAT FIND CRIMINALS ARE LOST CHILDREN ARE KEPT -- ATTEMPT TO COVER UP THE HORRIBLE OUTCOMES OF THESE TECHNOLOGIES. THESE ARE WHY ALPR CAMERAS ARE RELATED TO TECHNOLOGIES RESIDED ALL OVER THE COUNTY -- ALL OVER

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THE COUNTRY BY PEOPLE ACROSS THE POLITICAL SPECTRUM.

IF YOUDO NOT VOTE NO ON THE AGENDA ITEM AND ALLOW THE PURCHASE, IT IS A TACTIC DECLARATION THAT YOU ARE AGAINST THE GENUINE SAFETY AND CIVIL LIBERTIES OF YOUR CONSTITUENTS.

AND WOULD LOVE TO SUBJECT US TO AUTHORIZATION CONTROL AND MASS SURVEILLANCE. PLEASE END ALL ALPR CONTRACTS IN HAYS COUNTY IF YOU WANT TO LIVE IN A FREE SOCIETY.

SINCERELY NATHAN. >> COMMISSIONER -- COMMISSIONER

INGALSBE. >> I'D LIKE FOR -- TO COME UP AND EXPLAIN THIS ITEM AND I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S A NEW INSTALL OR IF YOU CAN GIVE US SOME INFORMATION.

>> STATE YOUR NAME AND TITLE FOR THE VIEWING PUBLIC.

>> WITH THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE JUDGE AND COMMISSIONERS.

THIS IS ACTUALLY A SYSTEM INSTALLED FOR TRAINING IN EVALUATION PURPOSES MORE THAN A YEAR AGO.

IT IS USED SPECIFICALLY BY OUR UNIT -- WE HAVE BEEN GOING THROUGH THE PROCESS THROUGH GRANT FUNDING THAT HAS NOT BEEN RELEASED BY THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT YET TO INSTALL THESE FOR ADDITIONAL USE. MOTOROLA HAS GRACIOUSLY ALLOWED US TO USE THE TECHNOLOGY. WHICH I DON'T HAVE THE NUMBERS BUT LED TO A NUMBER OF SUCCESSES I THINK MOST RECENTLY WHAT COMES TO MIND IS SEIZURE OF 2030 KILOS -- 20, 30 KILOS OF NARCOTICS.

THOSE TYPES OF THINGS NOT A FIXED POSITION ALPR.

IT'S MONITORED AND OPERATED BY ONE OF OUR DEPUTIES AT THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE AND THIS IS SIMPLY A REQUEST IN GOOD FAITH WITH MOTOROLA TO SAY WE ARE COMMITTED TO TRYING TO GET YOUR CAMERAS AND WE'RE GOING TO -- THIS IS FOR LICENSE FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT PURPOSES ONLY. MOTOROLA HAS A VERY ROBUST COMMERCIAL VERSION OF THIS THAT WE'RE NOT ASKING FOR.

THIS IS FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT PURPOSES.

I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER OTHER QUESTIONS.

>> WHEN YOU SAY LAW ENFORCEMENT PURPOSES ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT

HAYS COUNTY OR -- >> THE CAMERAS, THE DATA IS NOT -- JUST TO BE COMPLETELY FRANK IT'S NOT DISSIMILAR TO THE FLOCK TECHNOLOGY. DOES SHARE WITH OTHER AGENCIES THAT WE SHARE WITH AND SO FORTH. I STARTED YESTERDAY TRYING TO GET SPECIFIC ANSWERS TO SOME OF THE ANTICIPATED QUESTIONS I MIGHT FACE TODAY AND I WASN'T ABLE TO GET THAT OR AHOLD OF A REPRESENTATIVE. I KNOW THE DATA IS STORED NOT ON AMAZON. I KNOW THAT WAS A BIG DEAL FOR THE FLOCK STUFF BUT THEY HAVE A SECURE SERVER.

WE CONTROL THE DATA, WE CONTROL WHO IT'S SHARED WITH.

TO MY KNOWLEDGE THERE IS NO AGREEMENT WITH ICE OR OTHER FEDERAL AGENCY. SOMETHING WITH ONE DEPUTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE USES TO TRACK SUSPICIOUS VEHICLES THAT ARE

PICKED UP BY THOSE CAMERAS. >> TO ADD ON TO THAT WHAT I PUT IN FRONT OF YOU -- IT MIGHT BE HELPFUL TO ELABORATE WHAT WAS SPECIFICALLY ABOUT SHERIFF'S OFFICE OWNING ITS OWN DATA AND IT'S UP TO -- IT'S UP TO EACH AGENCY, OTHER AGENCY ON WHO THEY SHARE THEIR DATA WITH. IT DOESN'T REQUIRE SIGNATURE BUT IT MIGHT BE HELPFUL TO ADD ON TO WHAT CHIEF BAILEY WAS EXPLAINING. SHE COULD SEE IT ON PAPER.

>> WHAT ELSE. IT'S HARD FOR US TO READ SOMETHING THE MINUTE WE'RE HANDED IT.

I'VE HEARD IT ENOUGH TIMES WHERE I APPRECIATE THE INFORMATION BUT BEFORE COURT WOULD HAVE BEEN BETTER.

I APPRECIATE THE INFORMATION. WAS THERE ANYTHING ELSE YOU

WANTED TO ASK. >> I AGREE THAT WE SHOULD HAVE HAD A LITTLE MORE TIME TO REVIEW THIS AND MAYBE WE CAN'T TAKE THAT TIME. I'M NOT SURE IF VOTE TODAY IS NECESSARY PEER CAN WE HAVE SOME TIME TO READ THROUGH THE DOCUMENT AND I GUESS I'D ALSO LIKE TO ASK JORDAN JUST SAID IT'S UP TO THE DEPARTMENT TO DETERMINE WHO THEY'RE GOING TO SHARE INFORMATION AND WHETHER WE HAVE THE INFORMATION HERE TODAY

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PROVIDE WHO YOU MIGHT BE SHARING INFORMATION WITH.

>> I DON'T HAVE THE INFORMATION. JUST AS IF THE SAME WE SAID GOING THROUGH THE DISCUSSIONS WE WERE MORE THAN WILLING TO DO AND LIMIT THAT SHARING -- IF IT IS NATIONWIDE, THAT'S GREAT.

IN TEXAS THAT'S FINE. WITHIN CENTRAL TEXAS, THAT'S FINE. IN HAYS COUNTY -- I. CAN'T STRESS ENOUGH AND THIS IS JUST A PERSONAL FEELING THAT MANY OF THE ALLEGATIONS AND ASSERTIONS HAVE BEEN USED DURING THESE DISCUSSIONS FOR ALPR ARE JUST NOT TRUE.

ARE THERE PEOPLE THAT HAVE MISUSED THE SYSTEM.

I THINK IF YOU'VE BEEN PAYING ATTENTION TO SOCIAL MEDIA OVER THE LAST YEAR, OTHER AGENCIES THAT DON'T WANT TO LOSE THE SERVICES POST REGULARLY THEIR SUCCESS STORIES USING A LPRS.

I UNDERSTAND THE CONCERNS AND ALL I CAN TELL YOU AS THE PERSON APPOINTED TO ENSURE OUR POLICIES AND SO FORTH ARE FOLLOWED, I CAN DO EVERYTHING WITHIN MY POWER TO PREVENT MISUSE AND THAT'S ALL I CAN SHARE WITH YOU. WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO GET THIS ON FOR SOME TIME AND PULL IT OFF AT LEAST ONCE, MAYBE TWICE.

I WOULD URGE OR ASK THE COURT CONSIDER TAKING A VOTE TODAY.

IF YOU AS A COURT DECIDE YOU DON'T WANT THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE TO UTILIZE TECHNOLOGY TO HELP US PUT PEOPLE THAT ARE DOING BAD THINGS AWAY, THEN WE WILL ACCEPT THAT.

BUT THIS IS A TECHNOLOGY AND A TOOL THAT WE NEED TO DO OUR J JOBS. I'D ASK YOU TO MAKE A DECISION IF THE COURT DECIDES YOU DON'T WANT ALPR AND DON'T WANT US TO REAP THE BENEFITS OF HAVING THAT TOOL, I WILL ACCEPT IT.

GOING THROUGH ANOTHER MONTHS AND MONTHS OF TRYING TO FIGURE THIS OUT AND I DON'T THINK MOTOROLA WILL BE PATIENT FOR THAT.

>> THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU.

>> COMMISSIONER COHEN. >> WE DON'T HAVE AN ALPR POLICY

RIGHT NOW. >> THAT'S CORRECT.

>> I'M THINKING IF WE HAVE AN ALPR POLICY AND WE HAVE WITHIN THAT POLICY -- THERE'S A SECTION WHERE WE AGREE MOTOROLA'S THE PREFERRED VENDOR VERSUS FLOC. THE ISSUE WITH FLOC IS WE DID NOT TRUST THE TECHNOLOGY AND THE BEHAVIORS.

BUT IF WE HAD A ALPR POLICY THAT HAD REAL TEETH ON OVERSIGHT AND APPROVED VENDORS, I THINK THESE KINDS OF SITUATIONS WOULD BE EASIER FOR US TO DECIDE. THAT'S KIND OF WHERE MY HEAD IS -- WE TRIED LAST YEAR TO TRY TO DO SOMETHING TO CREATE OVERSIGHT AND SOMETHING WE COULD TURN TO -- I. UNDERSTAND THAT'S -- WE DON'T WANT TO TAKE A TOOL AWAY FROM LAW ENFORCEMENT SO WE'RE TRYING TO FIND A HAPPY MEDIUM WHERE EVERYONE FEELS COMFORTABLE. IT'S NOT LOST ON ME RECENTLY A LOT ALONG THE CORRIDORS SPECIFICALLY IN MY PRECINCT.

I HAD TO BE CONCERNED ABOUT THAT BUT I ALSO FEEL IF WE WERE TO TRULY BUILD AN ALPR POLICY WHAT WE CAN LOOK AT HERE IS OUR OVERSIGHT AND PREFERRED BECAUSE WE VETTED THEM AND THOSE CONTROLS AND IT'S EASIER TO MAKE THESE KINDS OF DECISIONS.

IS KIND OF WHAT I'M THINKING. >> COMMISSIONER HAMER.

>> HOW LONG HAS THIS TECHNOLOGY BEEN ON --

>> I BELIEVE ABOUT 18 MONTHS. >> DOES IT HELP YOU DO YOUR JOB

EVERY SINGLE DAY? >> YES.

>> IS IT ON A VEHICLE IN TERMS -- IT'S NOT STATIONARY.

IT MOVES WITH THE OFFICER SIMILAR TO WHAT A BODY CAMERA WOULD DO FROM A LICENSE PLATE PERSPECTIVE.

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>> I TRUST YOU AND YOUR UDGMENT.

THANK YOU. >> COMMISSIONER SMITH.

>> CHIEF BAILEY MADE A GREAT POINT.

EVERY TIME WE REMOVE A TOOL FROM THE TOOLBOX OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT HAS TO DO, I THINK IT'S PROBLEMATIC.

I KNOW I'VE SAID IT IN COURT BEFORE BUT I WENT TO WASHINGTON D.C. FROM 1998 TO 2012 AND IN 1998 WAS IN THE FIRST TWO MONTHS OF LIVING THERE, I LEARNED I COULDN'T PARK ON THE STREET FOR MORE THAN TWO HOURS BECAUSE EVERY SINGLE POLICE VEHICLE HAD LICENSE PLATE READERS AND I WAS GOING TO GET A TICKET.

THIS IS NOT NEW TECHNOLOGY. IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT CAME OUT OF NOWHERE A YEAR AGO. SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN IMPLEMENTED FOR LITERALLY DECADES.

THERE ARE PEOPLE THERE AND OFFICERS THAT IN BAD FAITH USE -- OR DIDN'T RECEIVE -- THEY DIDN'T KNOW HOW TO EXECUTE A P.I.T. MANEUVER IN THEIR CAR. THOSE ARE THINGS THEY'RE TRYING TO DO AND THEY'RE TOOLS THEY HAVE IN THEIR TOOLBOX TO DO THEIR JOB. IF WE TOLD THEM EVERY TIME WE SAW SOMETHING BECAUSE ONE OR TWO INDIVIDUALS NATIONWIDE MAY HAVE USED SOMETHING INCORRECTLY, OUR OFFICERS WOULD BE OUT THERE EVERY DAY WALKING AROUND WITHOUT A GUN, WITHOUT HANDCUFFS AND WITH NO TOOLS TO USE. AND IT'S ONE OF THOSE TOOLS BENEFICIAL FOR THEM DOING THEIR JOB.

WE'VE SEEN AND FLOCK MIGHT BE A BAD WORD BUT WE'VE SEEN FLOCK CAMERAS CATCH MURDERERS IN OUR COUNTY.

WE'VE SEEN THEM HORRENDOUS CRIMES HAVE BEEN SOLVED FROM THE USE OF THESE TECHNOLOGIES IN OUR COUNTY.

WHETHER IT'S A MISSING CHILD OR THE MURDER THAT OCCURRED IN MY PRECINCT WHICH WAS SOLVED BY FLOCK CAMERAS.

I DON'T SEE THE BENEFIT IN TAKING AWAY THESE TOOLS FROM LAW ENFORCEMENT WHEN WE KNOW THEY WORK AND WE KNOW HAYS COUNTY HAS NOT -- SO I'M SUPPORTIVE OF THIS.

>> THANK YOU COMMISSIONER. DID YOU WANT TO SAY SOMETHING? THANK YOU, CHIEF FOR SAYING -- IT'S ALL RHETORICAL.

THANK YOU FOR SAYING IT'S LIKE FLOCK.

OF COURSE I WAS THE COURT MEMBER THAT PUSHED TO END THE FLOCK ORIGINALLY. BUT FIRST VOTED FOR IT IN JANUARY. ABSOLUTELY RIGHT.

LIKE COMMISSIONER HAMMER AND SMITH I. TOTALLY AGREE WITH SUPPORTING YOU GUYS WITH ALL THE TOOLS YOU NEED TO DO THE RIGHT JOB. AS THE AMENDMENT OF THE CONTRACT CAME OUT AND MORE AWARENESS BECAME AVAILABLE THE REASON I VOTED FOR THE SYSTEM IN JANUARY WAS BECAUSE I TRUST YOU AND I TRUST THE SHERIFF AND OUR LOCAL LAW ENFORCEMENT WITH WHAT WE'RE DOING. IF WE DIDN'T, WE HAVE REMEDIES FOR THAT. I TOLD THE SHERIFF THIS AND REPEAT IT HERE -- IT'S EVEN REGIONALLY ALL DAY LONG.

IT GOES TO THE CLOUD WHETHER AMAZON OR NOT -- IT ALL GOES TO THE CLOUD AND I KNOW YOU MEAN WELL WITH WHAT YOU'VE SAID.

IT'S UP TO THE SHERIFF S OFFICE -- WHO GETS THE INFORMATION.

ARE YOU SAYING IF THERE'S A FEDERAL WARRANT FOR THE INFORMATION YOU CAN SAY NO YOU'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE IT OR WILL YOU SAY MY HANDS ARE TIED. FOR INFORMATION ON THE READERS

CLOUD. >> I BELIEVE IF WE WERE SERVED A FEDERAL WARRANT TO PRODUCE RECORDS IN OUR POSSESSION WE'D

ABSOLUTELY PRODUCE IT. >> EXACTLY.

SO IF WHAT I'M REFERRING TO OF COURSE WE WANT TO FOLLOW -- IF YOU GET A FEDERAL WARRANT FOR INFORMATION, YOU SHOULD.

THAT'S EXACTLY THE RIGHT ANSWER. THE CONCERN IS BREACH INFORMATION. I DIDN'T KNOW THIS AND IT WAS IN THAT LETTER THAT DOWN TO THE STICKERS ON PEOPLE'S CARS AND THE DENTS THAT ARE ON CARS AND THE DAMAGE, ALL THOSE SILLY THINGS GET RECORDED AND AGAIN, I DID NOT KNOW THIS, YOU LEARN IN THESE ROLES WE OCCUPY IN THESE SEATS THAT WE HOLD, THERE ARE INSURANCE COMPANIES FAILING TO COVER LEGITIMATE CLAIMS.

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ON THIS DATE WE HAVE PROOF YOU DIDN'T HAVE THAT DENT FEAR THEY DON'T ALWAYS HAVE IT RIGHT. AND BODY CAMS IT'S ALL ABOUT ANGLES ON ISSUES. IT'S IMPORTANT TO LET ME RATTLE OFF A FEW THINGS I HAVE WRITTEN DOWN.

IT GOES BACK TO THE ARGUMENT YOU SAID ALL THE GOOD PRO THINGS BECAUSE IT DOES SOLVE CRIME AND DO A LOT OF GOOD IN SPACES AND IT'S MOMENT IN TIME. BUT THERE'S THE LIBERTARIAN LENS I LOOK AT. MASS SURVEILLANCE.

YOU'RE KEEPING RECORDS OF MILLIONS OF PEOPLE MOVING, LAW ABIDING DRIVERS, NOT JUST SUSPECTS, PRIVACY CONCERNS CAN REVEAL WHERE PEOPLE LIVE, WORK, WORSHIP, ATTEND POLITICAL EVENTS. GOVERNMENT TRACKING CREATES A LONG TERM DATABASE OF CITIZENS, TRAVELING HISTORY.

FOURTH AMENDMENT ISSUES, CRITICS ARGUE PROLONGED TRACKING WITHOUT A WARRANT RAISES CONSTITUTIONAL CONCERNS.

CHILLING EFFECT PEOPLE MAY AVOID A PROTEST PUBLIC MEETING WHERE THEY FEEL THEY'RE GETTING TRACKED.

POTENTIAL FOR ABUSE AGAIN IS NOT A HAYS COUNTY LANDS, IT'S JUST UNIVERSAL. IT'S IN THE CLOUD.

POTENTIAL FOR ABUSE DOES NOT MEAN KNOCKING ON OUR SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT. IT'S JUST GENERAL SPEAKING TERMS, BROAD STATEMENT. DATA COULD BE MISUSED BY GOVERNMENT EMPLOYEES OR ACCESS THAT'S UNAUTHORIZED.

DATA SHARING. INFORMATION MAY BE SHARED WITH NUMEROUS LOCAL, STATE, FEDERAL AGENCIES THAT WEREN'T SUPPOSED TO HAVE IT OR WEREN'T LEGALLY GOING THROUGH THE RIGHT CHANNELS TO GET IT OUTSIDE OF A WARRANT. LONG DATA RETENTION, FALSE POSITIVE, CYBERSECURITY RISKS, MISSION CREEP, UNEQUAL IMPACT.

THIS CAR GETS PARKED IN A NEIGHBORHOOD THAT'S ALREADY OVER PATROLLED. WE HEAR THOSE COMPLAINTS.

THIS AREA HAS WAY MORE DEPUTIES PATROLLING THE AREA AND THERE'S A WHOLE ARGUMENT NATURE, NURTURE AND WE'RE HERE BECAUSE OF CRIME OR -- THERE'S ALL THE ARGUMENTS WE CAN ELABORATE ON BUT DON'T NEED TO. IN SUMMARY -- I'VE GOT PAGES OF THIS STUFF BUT PUBLIC SAFETY DEPENDS ON PUBLIC TRUST.

I'M NOT TEACHING YOU ANYTHING, I'M NOT TRYING TO BUT I WANT THE PUBLIC TO KNOW I SEE AND HEAR THE THINGS THEY'VE SHARED WITH ME AND I WILL HAPPILY TAKE THE VOTE NOW BECAUSE I AGREE WE SHOULDN'T BE STRUNG ALONG. HAVING THE MEETING WITH THE SHERIFF AND PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT -- I AGREE WE SHOULD -- YES OR NO RIP THE BAND-AID OFF, MAKE THE DECISION AND BE DONE WITH IT BECAUSE YOU SAID IT AT THE VERY BEGINNING.

IF THERE'S NO OPPOSITION, I'M READY TO CALL THE VOTE.

>> I JUST WANT TO SAY AND I WILL LOOK TO CANDACE'S OFFICE -- EVEN THOUGH I'M FINE TAKING A VOTE TODAY, MAYBE A COUPLE OF THINGS.

IT'S NOT THE FIRST TIME, PLEASE DON'T TAKE IT WRONG BECAUSE IT'S NOT ALWAYS YOUR OFFICE OR WHATEVER BUT WHEN WE HAVE INFORMATION THAT'S NEEDED IN THE BACK OF, IT'S REALLY HELPFUL TO HAVE IT PRIOR TO US COMING AND BEING HANDED OTHERS DO IT.

SO I'M JUST ASKING WE PLEASE PROVIDE THAT.

I BELIEVE -- AGREE WITH WHAT COMMISSIONER COHEN SAID WE STARTED THE DISCUSSIONS FOR WHATEVER REASON.

THERE'S A LOT OF GOOD THINGS THAT COME UP IN THE MEETING AND WE WANTED TO IMPLEMENT THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE WAS HAPPY AND WILLING TO DO SOME OF THOSE THINGS.

WE DO NEED A POLICY AND NEED TO GET IT DONE AS SOON AS POSSIBLE SO WE'RE BETTER EQUIPPED TO MAKE DECISIONS BECAUSE, AS EVERYBODY HAS STATED, WE UNDERSTAND IT'S AN IMPORTANT TOOL AND WE NEED TO ALLOW OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT TO USE EQUIPMENT AND TOOLS TO DO THEIR JOBS. I AGREE AND UNDERSTAND THAT BUT UNTIL WE HAVE THAT I THINK WE'RE GOING TO STRUGGLE LIKE THIS

EVERY TIME. >> WE NEED LOCAL CONTROL.

THAT'S WHAT I SAID ORIGINALLY. >> IT'S VERY OBVIOUS OUR SHERIFF'S OFFICES ARE FRUSTRATED.

DA'S OFFICE AS WELL. WE PUT THEM IN CHARGE OF PUBLIC SAFETY AND IN MAKING SURE WE'RE SAFE EVERY SINGLE DAY, DAY IN AND DAY OUT. I THINK THIS IS A NO BRAINER.

THEY'RE ASKING FOR, THEY'RE FRUSTRATED WITH US BECAUSE WE CONTINUE TO HAVE THESE CONVERSATIONS AND I DO BELIEVE THAT TRANSPARENCY AND ACCOUNTABILITY ARE EXTREMELY IMPORTANT. FOR $2975.03 FOR TWO MORE

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LICENSE PLATE READERS. OFFICE HIGHWAY INTRODUCTION VEHICLE AND DIRECT STAFF TO CREATE A POLICY AND BRING BACK

TO COURT. >> SECOND.

>> MOTION IN A SECOND. AS A UNIT BUT CREATING ANOTHER MOTION IF IT FAILS. PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

>> COMMISSIONER HAMMER. >> -- COMMISSIONER INGALSBE.

>> NO. >> COMMISSIONER SMITH.

>> YES. >> COMMISSIONER COHEN.

>> NO. >> JUDGE BECERRA.

>> NO. IN THIS VEIN I WOULD ASK PLEASE WE CREATE A POLICY FOR LICENSE PLATE READERS AND OTHER TECHNOLOGY THAT IS FOR USE OF SERVICE TO OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT SO WE CAN BRING IT BACK AND HAVE THESE DISCUSSIONS AND HAVE A UNIFIED COHESIVE FRONT FOR OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT SUPPORT BUT OUR COMMUNITY DOESN'T FEEL THE POTENTIAL.

FILL IN THE BLANK. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND BECAUSE THERE'S SOMETHING PERTINENT TO THE MOTION.

>> I WANTED TO CLARIFY TWO THINGS.

ONE, I WILL TAKE FULL BLAME. THAT'S NOT ON CANDACE.

I WILL TAKE BLAME FOR THAT. GIVING US DOCUMENTS WHICH NEEDED TO BE -- THIS WAS NOT SOME -- ONE THAT NEEDED TO BE EXECUTED BECAUSE I HEARD QUESTIONS I THOUGHT IT MIGHT BE HELPFUL SO I WILL TAKE THE BLAME ON THAT ONE. SECONDLY IF THERE'S ANY POLICY REGARDING ALPR CAMERAS, THAT'S GOING TO BE UP TO THAT ELECTED.

FOR THE POLICY BECAUSE IT'S THEIR TOOL.

THEY WILL BE THE ONES USING THE TOOL AND IMPLEMENTING THE POLICY SO I WANT TO BE CLEAR. I DON'T WANT TO SPEAK FOR EVERYONE BUT THEY HEARD LOUD AND CLEAR THE COURT'S -- POLICY AND FEEL FREE TO JUMP IN. I THINK THE POLICY WOULD HAVE TO BE MADE BY THAT ELECTED, NOT BY THE COURT BECAUSE THE ELECTIVE WOULD BE THE ONE CREATING OR FOLLOWING THE POLICY IN REGARDS

TO LAW ENFORCEMENT FUNCTION. >> THANK YOU FOR THAT.

I STILL MOVE WE ASK CANDACE TO LEAVE THE CHARGE AND BRING SOMETHING BACK TO COURT SO WE CAN HAVE AN OFFICIAL DISCUSSION TO -- EVEN IF IT'S A RESOLUTION. OTHER ELECTED OFFICIALS OFFICES CAN HAVE ROAD MAPPING SO WE CAN HAVE THESE ISSUES.

>> I WAS GOING TO SAY AND AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, WE HAD SOME OF THOSE DISCUSSIONS WITH THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE AND WE HAVE INFORMATION WE CAN PROVIDE. IN SUPPORT OF EVERYTHING YOU'VE SAID, IT HAS TO COME FROM THEM BUT I THINK WE CAN PROVIDE

INPUT. >> PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

>> TO THE POINT THAT OUR OFFICE GENERAL COUNSEL OUR CIVIL DIVISION OF THE ATTORNEY'S OFFICE I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO BE DIRECTING OUR COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR TO BE DEVELOPING A POLICY. THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY THE OFFICE OF THE SHERIFF AS ELECTED OFFICIALS IF WE HAVE THE ANTICIPATION OF A POLICY SUCH AS THAT, THEY WILL BE THE ONES TO IMPLEMENT AND THE ONES TO DO IT. WE SHOULD REQUEST THEM DOING IT BECAUSE SHE CAN BRING US THE BEST THING SINCE SLICED BREAD.

WE CAN ADOPT IT IT MAKES NO DIFFERENCE IF THE INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE INDEPENDENT ELECTED OFFICIALS.

>> OF COURSE. THEN WE'LL CALL THE ROLL. AND-

>> I WANT TO SAY IT'S A LITTLE FRUSTRATING BECAUSE THESE THINGS HAVE BEEN IN PLACE FOR 18 MONTHS ALREADY AND I FEEL LIKE BECAUSE IT FINALLY HITS OUR DESK WE'RE LIKE WE CAN SAY SOMETHING ABOUT IT AND STOP IT. I UNDERSTAND WHERE WE SIT AS A COURT, BUT THESE ARE THINGS THAT THEY NEED AND THAT THEY'RE ASKING US TO HELP THEM -- US TO HELP THEM WITH AND ALL WE'RE DOING IS STOPPING THEM AND ROADBLOCKING THEM WHEN THEY'VE HAD THESE IN PLACE FOR 18 MONTHS.

THAT'S CRAZY TO ME. GO AHEAD.

>> I'D LIKE TO IF I COULD RESPOND EXACTLY WHAT -- WHAT SHE'S SAYING AND IT ADDRESSES A POINT RAISED.

>> PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND TITLE.

>> DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE. YOU TALKED ABOUT LOCAL CONTROL.

THE THING I WANT TO SAY ABOUT THIS IS WE WORK CLOSELY WITH ALL OF OUR LOCAL LAW ENFORCEMENT ON THESE ISSUES AND WHEN YOU TOOK A FLOCK YOU TOOK AN IMPORTANT TOOL AWAY.

THIS IS AN IMPORTANT TOOL AS WELL.

WHEN YOU TAKE THESE THINGS AWAY YOU FORCE US TO HAVE TO RELY ON STATE PARTNERS AND FEDERAL PARTNERS TO GAIN THIS INFORMATION. THAT'S BEYOND YOUR REACH.

THAT'S BEYOND YOUR CONTROL. I'M GOING TO OTHER AGENCIES YOU HAVE NO SAY SO OVER TO GET THE INFORMATION -- THAT'S IMPORTANT

TO KEEP IN MIND. >> PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

TO BE A GUIDE TO SHEPHERD SOME INFORMATION IN THE ROAD MAPPING

FOR US TO HAVE SOMETHING HERE -- >> I HAVE A QUESTION.

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BEFORE WE VOTE ON THIS, AM I WRONG TO SAY THIS IS OUTSIDE THE PURVIEW OF THE AGENDA ITEM? WE'RE NOT POSTED TO -- FOR THIS.

I'M FINE WITH US MOVING FORWARD WITH IT BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE IF WE TAKE ACTION TODAY THAT WE'RE NOT OUTSIDE --

>> ARE YOU CONCERNED WITH THE WAY THE AGENDA IS WRITTEN AS THE

EVOLUTION TOOK PLACE? >> TO BE CLEAR TALKING ABOUT IN REGARDS TO THE POLICY, COMMISSIONER SMITH?

>> I THINK IF THERE -- IF IT'S A TOOL AND SOFTWARE THAT'S A TOOL AND IT'S SOMETHING RELATED TO THAT TOOL, I THINK WE'RE OKAY.

>> I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE. >> AS IT'S DIRECTLY RELATED TO

THAT TOOL -- >> PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

>> COMMISSIONER HAMER. >> YES.

>> COMMISSIONER INGALSBE. >> YES.

[G.11. Approve the re-appointment of Scott Roberts to the Board of Directors of the West Travis County Public Utility Agency (the "WTCPUA"), Position 4, term ending September 2030. SMITH]

>> COMMISSIONER SMITH. >> YES.

>> COMMISSIONER COHEN. >> YES.

>> JUDGE BECERRA. >> YES.

G11 PLEASE. >> OF THE WEST TRAVIS COUNTY PUBLIC UTILITY AGENCY POSITION FOR TERM ENDING --

>> SO MOVED. >> WE HAVE A MOTION IN A SECOND HERE IN PERSON FIRST AND EMAILED.

LET'S START WITH IN PERSON. >> RICK.

GOOD MORNING. MY NAME IS RICK BROWN.

GENERAL MANAGER OF THE CORPORATION.

I WAS HERE ABOUT A MONTH AGO, SAME TOPIC, SAME CONCERN.

ARE THIRSTY AND HAVE BEEN IN DROUGHT STAGE FOUR FOR ABOUT FOUR YEARS NOW. I'M HOPING TO GET SOME NEW REPRESENTATION ON THE PUA BOARD. THE PEOPLE WANT TO IRRIGATE.

THE PEOPLE WANT TO FILL THEIR POOLS.

THE PEOPLE WANT TO LIVE THEIR LIVES WITHOUT SUCH RESTRICTION THAT WE'VE BEEN FACING. WE'VE BEEN DOING AN EXCELLENT JOB KEEPING IT UNDER THE LIMITATIONS PLACED UPON US.

BUT WE NEED, THE PEOPLE NEED HELP.

WHEN I SPOKE LAST TIME CACTUS COURT TALKED ABOUT POSSIBLE LIMITATIONS OF TERMS. AN EXCELLENT POINT HERE KEEP THAT IN MIND. THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO'VE SUBMITTED COMMENTS -- HAPPY TO LISTEN TO THOSE WITH YOU.

IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF ME, I'M HERE.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> THANK YOU.

LET'S GO TO THE WRITTEN. >> BRET COMMENTING ON ITEM 11 ON THE JULY 28TH AGENDA ITEM AGAINST THE REAPPOINTMENT OF SCOTT ROBERTS TO THE UT PUA BOARD.

THE FACT THAT SMITH WANTS HIM ON THE BOARD AS HIS ALLY SHOULD MAKE -- TELL YOU ALL YOU NEED TO KNOW.

SCOTT ROBERTS FOR YEARS HAD A MASSIVE CONFLICT OF INTEREST WITH BEING ABLE TO CONTROL WATER TO PROPERTY OWNED AND IT'S FOR THESE REASONS HE SHOULD NOT BE REAPPOINTED AND BANNED FROM EVER SERVING ON IT AGAIN. -- THANK YOU.

>> JUDGE BECERRA AND MEMBERS OF THE COURT I WOULD RESPECTFULLY ASK CONSENT ITEM 11 BE REMOVED AND DISCUSSED AT THE AGENDA ITEM. I ASK YOU TO NOT REAPPOINT SCOTT ROBERTS TO THE UT C BOARD. MR. ROBERTS SOLD HUNDREDS OF ACRES OF DRIFTWOOD GOLF PARK. -- GOLF COURSE.

DRIFTWOOD GOLF THEN GOT A CONTRACT FOR 1 MILLION GALLONS PER DAY FROM THE WEST TRAVIS COUNTY AGENCY WTCP UA.

WHILE SCOTT ROBERTS WAS A BOARD MEMBER.

WHILE DRIPPING SPRINGS WATER SUPPLY DSWSC HAS SPENT THE MAJORITY OF THE LAST FOUR YEARS IN STAGE FOUR DROUGHT CUTBACK, THE GOLF COURSE PUT HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF GALLONS OF POTABLE WATER ON THE GRASS. MR. ROBERTS STILL OWNS PROPERTY THAT SHOW MARKET VALUE OF $12,836,535.2026 OF NOTE THE SAME PROPERTY SHOWED A MARKET VALUE OF $14,195,931 IN 2024.

APPARENTLY PROPERTY AT THE GOLF COURSE IS GOING DOWN IN VALUE. THE FACT ALONE SHOULD DISQUALIFY FROM REMAINING ON THE BOARD. YOU CAN'T GET PAST THE FACT THAT

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AS A BOARD MEMBER NEAR -- NEITHER SCOTT ROBERTS NOR WALT SMITH HAVE DONE A VERY GOOD JOB. IT WAS KNOWN AS FAR BACK AS 2016 NEEDED TO EXPAND THEIR TREATMENT PLAN FOR YOUR HAVE THROWN THE ENTIRE REGION INTO A POSSIBLE WATER SHORTAGE BUT DON'T WORRY THE FAIRWAYS WILL BE GREEN. I'D RECOMMEND GETTING BETTER QUALIFIED PEOPLE ON THE BOARD AT THE FIRST OF THE YEAR AS COMMISSIONER SMITH WILL NO LONGER HOLD AN ELECTED POSITION IN HAYS COUNTY. THERE'S WAY TOO MUCH OPPORTUNITY OF MALFEASANCE WITH A CITY COMMISSIONER WHO SITS IN HAYS COUNTY EXECUTIVE SESSION -- THIS ONE WOULD BE THE MOST POWERFUL PERSON IN HAYS COUNTY AS THEY CONTROL THE ROAD AND WATER. IT CAN LEAD THE COUNTY INTO A BAD SPOT. THE COMMISSIONERS NEED TO BE ASKED -- NEED TO BE ABLE TO ASK HONEST QUESTIONS OF THE UTCPA REPRESENTATIVES. MY EXPERIENCE IN THE LAST YEARS AT COMMISSIONERS COURT IS ONE IS UNLIKELY TO CALL OUT ANOTHER COMMISSIONER FOR FEAR OF HURTING THEIR PRECINCT.

I RESPECTFULLY OFFER UP MYSELF TO DISCUSS THE ISSUES AT ANY TIME. AN ADVISORY BOARD MADE UP OF -- CITY OF DRIPPING SPRINGS AND SEVERAL LOCAL THE BUY WHOLESALE WTCP UA SHOULD PICK THE CANDIDATE AND PRESENT THE COMMISSIONERS COURT FOR APPROVAL.

IN CONCLUSION -- >> NICK MATHIS.

I AM WRITING TO EXPRESS MY STRONG OPPOSITION TO THE APPOINTMENT OF SCOTT ROBERTS TO THE WEST TRAVIS COUNTY PUBLIC UTILITY AGENCY APPOINTING A MAJOR COMMERCIAL PROPERTY DEVELOPER TO OVERSEE WATER INFRASTRUCTURE PRESENTS A CLEAR CONFLICT OF INTEREST PICKED THE DECISION RISKS PRIORITIZING PRIVATE BUSINESS INTERESTS OVER PUBLIC GOOD.

I URGE YOU TO -- VOTE AGAINST THE REAPPOINTMENT.

CHARLES BUSBY TO THE COMMISSIONERS -- HAYS COMMISSIONERS COURT. I OPPOSE REAPPOINTMENT OF SCOTT ROBERTS WEST COUNTY PUBLIC UTILITY -- MR. ROBERTS OCCUPIED THE POSITION FOR FAR TOO LONG AND HAS SHOWN HOSTILITY TOWARDS DRIPPING SPRINGS WATER SUPPLY COMPANY AT ONE POINT STATING THAT ONE OF OUR BOARD MEMBERS AT DSW SC SHOULD JUST SELL TO THE WTC P. UA WHILE ENSURING MORE THAN ADEQUATE WATER BE MADE AVAILABLE TO DEVELOPMENT IN DRIFTWOOD USING BOTH WTC PUA TO THE CITY OF DRIPPING SPRINGS AND POSSIBLY ILLEGAL ABUSE OF GROUNDWATER HE'S SHOWN LITTLE IF ANY CONCERN FOR NEIGHBORING WATER USERS. I ENCOURAGE YOU NOT TO REAPPOINT MR. ROBERTS TO THE BOARD. BOBBY LEVINSKI.

PLEASE PULL THE PROPOSED APPOINTMENTS TO THE TC PUA BOARD FROM THE AGENDA AND OPEN A PUBLIC APPLICATION PROCESS REGARDLESS OF WHAT YOU FEEL ABOUT MR. ROBERTS PERFORMANCE, THERE SHOULD BE NO AUTOMATIC REAPPOINTMENT.

THE RESIDENTS OF HAYS COUNTY IN COMPLETION OF IDEAS.

SINCE THESE ARE APPOINTED POSITIONS THERE'S ALREADY VERY LITTLE OPPORTUNITY FOR ACCOUNTABILITY FOR SUCH UNIMPORTANT -- THE PUA CONTROLS WATER SERVICES AND PIPELINE DECISIONS THAT INFLUENCE WHERE AND HOW GROWTH OCCURS IN NORTHWEST HAYS COUNTY. THE PUBLIC APPLICATION PROCESS WITH MULTIPLE CANDIDATES WOULD ENCOURAGE DISCUSSION ABOUT HOW THE WTC PUA SHOULD SERVE, PROTECT WATER RESOURCES AND PLAN THE FUTURE. THE HEALTHY AND PUBLIC DECISION MAKING THE PUA HAS OPERATED FOR YEARS WITH VERY FEW SLIP VOTES.

AT THE SAME TIME IT HAS BEEN APPROVING MASSIVE INFRASTRUCTURE EXPANSIONS WALKING AWAY FROM ENVIRONMENTAL COMMITMENTS AND CARVING PIPELINES THROUGH NATURE PRESERVES.

IT'S TIME FOR A CHANGE. THANK YOU.

>> THIS IS FROM SUSAN COOK. I LIVE IN DRIFTWOOD.

SCOTT ROBERTS SERVED ON THE WEST TRAVIS COUNTY PUA BOARD SINCE ITS INCEPTION IN 2012 AND CURRENTLY -- APPEARS TO BE SEEKING TO STAY ON THE BOARD UNTIL AT LEAST 2030 OR THAT'S WHAT AGENT COMMISSIONER SMITH HAS PUT ON THE AGENDA.

I'VE HEARD NOTHING FROM MR. ROBERTS.

MR. ROBERTS NEVER REPORTED BACK TO HAYS COUNTY ON WHAT HE'S DOING IN THAT CAPACITY NOR HAVE THE MAJORITY OF COMMISSIONERS EVER EVEN MET HIM. SEEMS TO ME SINCE HE WAS

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APPOINTED BY COMMISSIONERS COURT AND SERVES AT THEIR PLEASURE, IS SEEKING REAPPOINTMENT HE SHOULD COME BEFORE THE COURT AND TELL US WHAT HE'S BEEN DOING AND WHY HE SHOULD BE -- CONTINUE TO BE ALLOWED TO DO THOSE THINGS AND ANSWER QUESTIONS FROM COURT AND THE PUBLIC. THE WTC PUA CONTROLS THE WATER SUPPLY FOR TENS OF THOUSANDS OF HAYS COUNTY RESIDENTS AND IT'S A MAJOR DECISION MAKER WHERE WATER PIPELINES ARE BUILT.

THEREFORE DECIDING WHO GETS TO BUILD AND WHERE.

THE WTC PUA PUTS ITS CUSTOMER UNDER FREQUENT WATER RESTRICTIONS DUE TO INFRASTRUCTURE NEEDS AND -- INSUFFICIENT AND NOT WELL MAINTAINED.

THEIR CUSTOMERS ARE RESTRICTED TO INDOOR WATER USE ONLY.

THE WATER LEAKAGE IS A SERIOUS CONCERN AS ARE WHO THEY CHOOSE TO SUPPLY WATER TO LIKE THE DRIFTWOOD GOLF COURSE BY WAY OF THE CITY FOR WHOM THEY ARE SOLE PROVIDER.

RESIDENTIAL CUSTOMERS DO WITHOUT -- THERE APPEARS TO BE ZERO ACCOUNTABILITY TO CITIZENS OF HAYS COUNTY FOR ACTION DECISIONS AND ABILITY TO CHOOSE WINNERS AND LOSERS.

WHERE GROWTH HAPPENS IS IMPORTANT IN A POWERFUL DEVELOPMENT TOOL. UTMOST IMPORTANCE -- SEVERAL ENTERPRISES IN THE AREA SERVED BY THE WTC PUA INCLUDING BARBECUE JOINT, SALT LAKE, NEARBY LUXURY HOUSING DEVELOPMENT, THE GOLF COURSE. I'M -- NOT BE INVOLVEMENT IN THE BUSINESSES BUT HE EITHER OUTRIGHT OWNS, HAS DEVELOPED OR IS AN ASSOCIATE IN THE MALL. HE OWNS ADDITIONAL LAND WHICH ONCE DEVELOPED WILL ALSO BENEFIT FROM THE WTC PUA WATER.

IT'S THE VERY DEFINITION OF A CLEAR CONFLICT OF INTEREST.

HE MAKES DECISIONS WHICH BENEFIT HIM ALONG WITH FRIENDS AND BUSINESS ASSOCIATES. I'VE ONLY RECENTLY BECOME ACUTELY AWARE OF HOW POWERFUL -- OVER WHICH PRESIDES REALLY IS AND HOW THEY'RE NOT RESPONDING TO GROWTH.

FINDING IT AND DIRECTING WHERE IT GOES AND WHO GETS TO DEVELOP THE DRIFTWOOD AND DRIPPING SPRINGS AREA ALONG WITH TEXAS.

SINCE GROUNDWATER SUPPLIES ARE DWINDLING IN THE AREAS, ACCESS TO WATER LINES FROM LAKE AUSTIN AND ELSEWHERE THROUGH THE WILCOX AQUIFER TO OUR EAST AND ESSENTIAL INGREDIENTS IN THE MAIN BUILDING PROJECTS. FROM LYNN BRIDGE.

TO JUDGE AND THE COMMISSIONERS, PLEASE DO NOT APPOINT MR. SCOTT ROBERTS TO THE WTC PUA AGAIN. I DO NOT KNOW HIM PERSONALLY I HAVE NO -- TO THE OWNER OF BUSINESSES I FEEL IT'S A DOG IN THIS HUNT. ON THE WTC PUA SHOULD BE RESERVED FOR HAYS COUNTY NOT SOMEBODY WHO MAKES MONEY OFF HIGH WATER USAGE BUSINESSES IN HAYS COUNTY.

LAUREL TREVINO MURPHY. HONORABLE JUDGE AND MEMBERS OF THE COURT, I'M OPPOSED TO THE APPOINTMENT OF SCOTT ROBERTS TO THE WEST TRAVIS COUNTY PUBLIC UTILITY AGENCY.

I THINK THAT THE APPOINTING OF A COMMERCIAL PROPERTY DEVELOPER TO OVERSEE PUBLIC UTILITY INFRASTRUCTURE, ESPECIALLY THAT PERTAINING TO WATER INFRASTRUCTURE PRESENTS AN INHERENT CONFLICT OF INTEREST. THE PUBLIC UTILITY AGENCY TO IMPORT WATER FROM -- COMMERCIAL ENTERPRISES AND HAYS COUNTY FAVOR THE PRIVATE BUSINESS INTERESTS OVER THE PUBLIC GOOD.

I URGE YOU TO VOTE AGAINST THE APPOINTMENT OF SCOTT ROBERTS TO THE WEST COUNTY -- FROM JAN WESTLUND.

I BELIEVE THE REAPPOINTMENT OF SCOTT ROBERTS IS THE EPITOME OF CONFLICT OF INTEREST OWNED AND IN PARTNERSHIP WITH -- THE WTC PUA SUPPLY. RESIDENTIAL CUSTOMERS SEVERELY LIMITED WHILE GOLF COURSE STAYS GREEN.

I NOTICED TODAY THE VINEYARD QUITE HEALTHY.

IT'S TIME TO FIND A REPRESENTATIVE FROM THE COMMUNITY THAT'S NOT A SELF SERVING INDIVIDUAL.

I ALSO BELIEVE WALT SMITH'S PLACE ON THE COMMITTEE NEEDS TO END WITH HIS TERM. HOPEFULLY THIS WILL BE A CHANGE FOR THE BETTER AS WE MOVE FORWARD AND SERIOUSLY LOOK FOR WAYS TO BE OF THE TEXAS HILL COUNTRY.

FROM BOB BRIDGE RICK I. STRONGLY OPPOSE THE REAPPOINTMENT OF SCOTT ROBERTS TO THE WTC PUA BOARD.

THE HAYS COUNTY REPRESENTATIVE TO THE WTC PUA MUST REPRESENT THE INTEREST OF THE MAJORITY OF ITS WATER USERS, NOT JUST A

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SELECT FEW. MR. ROBERTS IS A MAJOR LAND AND BUSINESS OWNER IN THE AREA SERVED BY THE WTC PUA AND OWNS ADDITIONAL LAND WHICH ONCE DEVELOPED WILL BENEFIT FROM WTC PUA WATER. THIS POINTS TO A CONFLICT OF INTEREST IN THAT HE MAKES DECISIONS WHICH FINANCIALLY BENEFIT HIM PERSONALLY. FURTHERMORE MR. ROBERTS DOES NOT ROUTINELY REPORT TO HAYS COUNTY COMMISSIONER ON ACTIVITIES.

>> YOU'RE DOING GREAT KEEP GOING.

>> MADELEINE MATHES. DEAR JUDGE AND COMMISSIONERS.

I RESPECTFULLY ASK THE CONSENT AGENDA ITEM G11 BE REMOVED FROM CONSENT AGENDA AND CONSIDERED THROUGH OPEN PUBLIC APPOINTMENT PROCESS. MR. ROBERTS SERVED ON WEST TRAVIS COUNTY PUBLIC UTILITY AGENCY BOARD SINCE 2012, BEFORE EXTENDING THE APPOINTMENT THROUGH 2030 I BELIEVE COURTS SHOULD PROVIDE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE PUBLIC TO HEAR HIM, UNDERSTAND HIS QUALIFICATIONS AND PRIORITIES AND UNDERSTAND WHETHER OTHER CANDIDATES MAY WISH TO SERVE.

THIS IS NOT ABOUT THE OUTCOME, IT'S ABOUT THE PROCESS.

PUBLIC CONFIDENCE AND GOVERNMENT DEPENDS ON APPOINTMENTS BEING MADE THROUGH OPEN AND TRANSPARENT PROCESS, PARTICULARLY FOR POSITIONS THAT CARRY LONG TERM SERVICES...

CONCLUDES MR. ROBERTS IS THE BEST PERSON TO CONTINUE SERVING THE DECISION WILL CARRY GREATER PUBLIC CONFIDENCE BECAUSE IT WAS REACHED OPENLY. IF ANOTHER STRONG CANDIDATE EMERGES, THE COURT AND PUBLIC WILL HAVE BENEFITED FROM CONSIDERING ADDITIONAL PERSPECTIVES.

REMOVING THE ITEM FROM CONSENT AGENDA WAS A SMALL STEP THAT DEMONSTRATES ACCOUNTABILITY, ENCOURAGES PUBLIC PARTICIPATION AND STRENGTHENS CONFIDENCE IN THE COURT'S DECISION MAKING FOR THESE REASONS I RESPECTFULLY ASK ITEM G11 BE PULLED FROM CONSENT AGENDA AND CONSIDERED THROUGH OPEN PROCESS.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND YOUR SERVICE TO HAYS COUNTY.

MICHAEL? -- CONSENT AGENDA ITEM BE PULLED AND DISCUSSED SEPARATELY. I CARE A LOT ABOUT THE LONG TERM FUTURE OF HAYS COUNTY. WATER ISN'T JUST ANOTHER ISSUE HERE. IT AFFECTS EVERY FAMILY, PROPERTY OWNER ABOUT HOW OUR COMMUNITY GROWS.

DURING THE TIME WHERE THERE WAS SERIOUS CONCERNS ABOUT SAFETY OF DRINKING WATER ON PUBLIC TRUST WHEN WATER MANAGEMENT BREAKS DOWN LEFT A LASTING IMPRESSION ON ME.

IT'S ONE OF THE REASONS I PAY CLOSE ATTENTION TO HOW -- DECISION ABOUT HOW WATER ARE MADE TODAY.

I DON'T THINK APPOINTMENTS LIKE THIS SHOULD BE APPROVED AS A CONSENT AGENDA WHETHER THE COURT ULTIMATELY DECIDES TO REAPPOINT MR. ROBERTS OR NOT I BELIEVE THE APPOINTMENT DESERVES A PUBLIC -- DISCUSSION BUT CAN UNDERSTAND REASONING BEFORE A VOTE IS TAKEN. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND CONSIDERATION. HONORABLE JUDGE -- JUDGE BECERRA AND ESTEEMED COMMISSIONERS, MY NAME IS ALANA BEATTY AND MY COMMENT TODAY IS REFERENCING ITEM G11.

I WISH TO VOICE ON REAPPOINTMENT OF SCOTT ROBERTS TO THE WTC PUA BOARD. BECAUSE OF THE CONTROLS WATER SUPPLY FOR THOUSANDS OF HAYS RESIDENTS, THE WATER'S EXTREMELY HOT-BUTTON ISSUE DURING THE ONGOING DROUGHT CONDITIONS.

SEEMS FLIPPANT TO PLACE HIS AGENDA ITEM UNDER THE CONSENT ITEMS TO PASS WITHOUT ANY DISCUSSION OR JUSTIFICATION.

JUST APPOINTED BY THE COURT IT SEEMS MR. ROBERTS SHOULD BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE AND PROVIDE UPDATES TO THE COURT AS TO HOW HE'S SERVING THE PEOPLE OF HAYS COUNTY FROM THE OUTSIDE IT APPEARS THERE'S A CONFLICT OF INTEREST TO HAVE MR. ROBERTS WHO'S A LANDHOLDER, STAKEHOLDER IN BUSINESSES AND DEVELOPS IN THE DRIFTWOOD AREA MAKING DECISIONS TO DETERMINE WHERE SUPPLY PIPELINES ARE BUILT AND THEREFORE DICTATING WHO GETS TO BUILD WHAT AND WHERE DEVELOPMENT OCCURS IN DRIFTWOOD AND DRIPPING SPRINGS AREA. IT SEEMS DECISIONS PREVIOUSLY MADE -- WHILE RESIDENTIAL CUSTOMERS THESE DO NOT SERVE THE PEOPLE OF HAYS COUNTY BUT RATHER SERVE TO LINE THE POCKETS OF A FEW WEALTHY AND AFFLUENT INDIVIDUALS.

MR. ROBERTS APPEARS TO BE ONE OF THOSE BENEFICIARIES.

I ASK YOU REMOVE THE AGENDA FROM THE CONSENT ITEMS PORTION OF THE AGENDA SO ITAN BE DISCUSSED HERE PLEASE TAKE THE TIME TO REVIEW THE DECISIONS THE WTC PUA MADE WITH MR. ROBERTS SERVING ON THE BOARD. THE PERSONAL BENEFITS SEEN FROM

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THE BOARD'S DECISION AND BENEFIT THE LARGER POPULATION OF HAYS COUNTY AS SEEN OR NOT SEEN DUE TO THESE DECISIONS.

IN A TIME WHEN OUR FRESH WATER RESOURCES ARE BECOMING MORE SACRED AND DEVELOPMENT THREATENS THE QUALITY AND QUANTITY OF OUR GROUNDWATER SUPPLIES, THERE'S NO REASON TO RUSH DECISIONS ABOUT WHO SHOULD BE LEADING OUR PUBLIC UTILITY AGENCIES.

PLEASE TAKE TIME TO CONSIDER OTHER INDIVIDUALS AS BOARD MEMBERS WHO CAN MAKE DECISIONS ABOUT OUR COMMUNITY'S, WATER SUPPLIES AND USAGE WITHOUT CONFLICT OF INTEREST.

THANK YOU FOR CONSIDERING. >> DEAR HONORABLE JUDGE, DO NOT REAPPOINT SCOTT ROBERTS TO THE WTCPUA.

MR. ROBERTS HAS A CLEAR CONFLICT OF INTEREST.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION TO THIS CRITICAL MATTER.

OUR LAST ONE FROM KATHY RAMSEY. DEAR COMMISSIONERS, THANK YOU FOR TAKING THE TIME TO READ AND CONSIDER THIS INPUT.

I'M ASKING THAT YOU STOP CONSENT AGENDA ITEM 11.

INSTEAD HAVE FULL DISCUSSION IN COMMUNITY INPUT ON THIS VERY CRITICAL MATTER, IT SHOULD NOT EVEN BE A CONSENT AGENDA ITEM BUT RATHER A ITEM THAT THE COURT WEIGHS CAREFULLY.

THIS PROCESS ITSELF IS A BIG RED FLAG AND AN ATTEMPT TO FLY UNDER THE RADAR. FOR YEARS THE TCPA HAS OPERATED WITH VERY LITTLE OVERSIGHT, NO REPORT TO THE COMMISSIONERS COURT ALTHOUGH FROM THE MEETINGS I'VE ATTENDED IT'S CLEAR TO ME THAT THIS IS VERY INFLUENTIAL REGULATING WHERE WATER AND THEREFORE DEVELOPMENT IS DIRECTED.

THE COURT NEEDS TO TAKE MUCH MORE ACTIVE STANCE OR DEVELOPERS WILL RUE THE DAY UNABATED AND UNMONITORED.

BECAUSE THE PRECINCT COMMISSIONER HAS CONSISTENTLY VOTED AGAINST THE WISHES OF HIS CONSTITUENTS, HE IS DIRECTING THE COUNTY TO BUILD A VERY EXPENSIVE DEEPLY PROBLEMATIC UNWANTED ROAD, THE SOUTHWEST CONNECT.

RIGHT ALONGSIDE IT ARE PLANS TO CREATE LARGE POCKETS OF UNWANTED, DENSE DEVELOPMENT IN PART FUNDED BY OUR TAX DOLLARS.

THIS SMALL GROUP OF PEOPLE IS DETERMINING THE FUTURE OF OUR LAND AND WATER BECAUSE THE BOARD HEAVILY FAVORS THE DEVELOPMENT IN WHAT THEY ARE PLANNING IS NOT THE BEST INTEREST OF THOSE WHO LIVE HERE NOW AND WILL DEVASTATE OUR RURAL LANDS AND OPEN SPACES.

TTHE WTCPUA -- LAST TIME I SPOKE THEY DENIED THIS AND THE FACTS ARE THERE. THEY ALSO MANAGE A WATER WASTE SYSTEM THAT HAS CREATED NEW PROBLEMS FOR YEARS AND IGNORED THEIR REPEATED ATTEMPTS BY NEARBY RESIDENTS AND THEIR LAWYERS TO ADEQUATELY REPAIR AND MAINTAIN THE SYSTEM.

MORE ATTENTION TO MAINTAINING ADEQUATE SERVICES TO EXISTING CUSTOMERS NEED TO BE THE FOCUS GOING FORWARD AND INSTEAD DIRECTORS ARE BUILDING OUT A HUGE SYSTEM THAT WILL GREATLY DEPLETE LAKE WATER BENEFIT SELECT LANDOWNERS WHILE HARMING OTHERS AND MOST IMPORTANTLY POLLUTE AND PAVE OVER CRITICALLY RECHARGED AREAS. AREAS THAT DIRECTLY FEED INTO THE WATER SUPPLY AND THE REST OF THE COUNTY RELIES ON.

TAKE A MORE ACTIVE POSITION IN APPOINTING BOARD MEMBERS WHO HAVE UNDERSTANDING OF OUR WATER ISSUES AND WORK FOR THE GOOD OF PEOPLE. MR. ROBERTS OWNS EXTENSIVE DEVELOPMENTS INCLUDING A LARGE GOLF COURSE THAT IS FUELED BY DRINKING WATER DELIVERED AT PUBLIC EXPENSE AND IS SWEETHEART PRICES CREATING A CLEAR CONFLICT OF INTEREST THAT RENDERS HIS PRESENCE ON THE BOARD PROBLEMATIC.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR CAREFUL CONSIDERATION ON THIS MATTER.

>> A LOT OF THE PUBLIC COMMENT ARE NOT ONLY FALSE BUT OUTRIGHT OUTRAGEOUS. I WILL TELL YOU AS A BOARD MEMBER AND WHENEVER I WAS ELECTED INTO OFFICE INTO 2018, MY PREDECESSOR WAS ONE OF THE FOUNDING BOARD MEMBERS OF WTCPUA AND I CHOSE TO STAY OFF THAT BOARD UNTIL HIS TERM ENDED IN 2020 AND WHAT MANY PEOPLE DON'T UNDERSTAND ABOUT THE WTCPUA IS IT'S NOT A SOLE APPOINTMENT BY THE HAYS COUNTY COMMISSIONER COURT. IT'S ONE OF THE FEW APPOINTMENTS WHERE ONCE WE MAKE AN APPOINTMENT HERE, THE OTHER TWO PRESIDE AND HAVE TO SUPPORT AND APPROVE THAT APPOINTMENT.

I'VE SEEN THAT ON MULTIPLE OCCASIONS THAT NOT HAPPEN AMONGST OUR TWO PARTNERS AND THAT IS THE CITY OF DRIPPING SPRINGS AND OVER IN AUSTIN AND TRAVIS COUNTY.

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THERE IS DIRECT DISSENSION OR IN THE PAST DIRECT DISSENSION BETWEEN THEM. I'VE WATCHED ROBERTS NEGOTIATE WITH THOSE TWO ENTITIES AND NOT ONLY GET A BOARD THAT IS SUPPORTED, ALL FIVE POSITIONS BY THOSE THREE ENTITIES, BUT TRULY MAKE A DIFFERENCE AS BOARD PRESIDENT.

I WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS NUMBER 1, I'VE SEEN BOARD PRESIDENT ROBERT RECUSE HIMSELF AT LEAST 20 OR MORE THAN 30 TIMES ON ANYTHING RELATED TO THE DRIFTWOOD DEVELOPMENT.

HE IS NOT AN OWNER OF A GOLF COURSE.

IT DOES NOT DIRECTLY SELL WATER TO THE GOLF COURSE.

THEY HAVE AN LLU E. OR A UNIT EQUIVALENT CONTRACT WITH THE CITY OF DRIPPING SPRINGS AND THE CITY SELLS WATER TO THE GOLF COURSE. AND THEY DO THAT UNDER THE LU CONTRACT THAT WE HAVE. WE HAVE A GENERAL NUMBER THAT THEY PURCHASE AS A WHOLESALE PROVIDER OR PARDON ME AS A WHOLESALE CUSTOMER OF THE PUA. I WILL SAY THAT ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT I WOULD MENTION IS EVERY SINGLE ONE OF OUR CUSTOMERS WHETHER COMMERCIAL OR RESIDENTIAL HAVE TO ABIDE BY THE EXACT SAME CURTAILMENTS WHENEVER WE GO TO STAGE TWO, STAGE THREE, THEY ALL HAVE TO ABIDE BY THOSE CURTAILMENTS.

I THINK IT'S ABSOLUTELY EGREGIOUS TO ATTACK A CITIZEN OF OUR COUNTY WHO IS A MULTIGENERATIONAL CITIZEN OF THIS COUNTY AND HAS TRULY BROUGHT SUCCESS AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TO OUR AREA. EMPLOYS HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE IN OUR AREA, PAYS LITERALLY TENS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS IN PROPERTY TAXES BECAUSE THEY LIVE HERE AND THEY CHOSE TO BUILD THEIR BUSINESS HERE AND THAT IS SOMEHOW LOOKED DOWN UPON.

I THINK WE SHOULD ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO DO THAT HERE.

THEY SHOULD WANT TO BUILD THAT BUSINESS HERE.

THEY SHOULD WANT TO BE PROPERTY OWNERS AND THEY SHOULD WANT TO RAISE THEIR FAMILIES HERE AND BE SUCCESSFUL HERE AND TO TRY TO DEGRADE OR SPEAK DOWN TO THEM BECAUSE OF THAT, I THINK IT'S RATHER SAD. I FULLY SUPPORT THE APPOINTMENT OF PRESIDENT ROBERTS. I THINK ANYBODY THAT SERVED ON THAT BOARD, SOME OF THE QUESTIONS ABOUT THERE'S NO AVAILABILITY FOR ACCOUNTABILITY, I GO TO AN OPEN PUBLIC MEETING? MAY NOT MEET EVERY MONTH BUT ALMOST EVERY MONTH THERE'S A COUPLE OF MONTHS WE MISS PER YEAR WHERE WE HAVE AN OPEN PUBLIC COMMENT. JUST LIKE THIS AND WE HAVE THE GENERAL PUBLIC COME IN AND ASK US ABOUT THOSE DECISIONS AND ASK US ABOUT INDIVIDUAL ITEMS AND ASK US ABOUT THE FUTURE WHENEVER -- THE PUA OPERATES VERY DIFFERENTLY THAN ANY OTHER UTILITY IN THE STATE AND I SAY THAT BECAUSE THE PUA IS MANDATED BY STATE LAW. THAT WE HAVE TO PROVIDE PORTABLE WATER AT THE LOWEST POSSIBLE RATE TO OUR RATEPAYERS SO WHEN WE LOOK AT -- AND WE TALK HERE IN COMMISSIONERS COURT ABOUT GROWTH SHOULD PAY FOR GROWTH, IT'S NOT A THOUGHT OR AN AFTERTHOUGHT, IT'S THE WAY THAT WE HAVE TO OPERATE ON THE PUA BOARD OF DIRECTORS SO WHEN WE ARE TALKING ABOUT WHERE FACILITIES SHOULD BE EXPANDED, I KNOW THE COURT WENT THROUGH A CIP PROCESS OR A CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROCESS TO IDENTIFY PROJECTS EARLIER THIS YEAR IN JANUARY, THE FIRST TIME THE COUNTY HAS EVER DONE IT. THE PUA DOES IT EVERY THREE TO FOUR YEARS BECAUSE OF THE GROWTH THAT'S HAPPENING AND WE DO THAT BECAUSE OUR CURRENT RATEPAYERS CAN'T PAY FOR THAT GROWTH.

BY LAW WE ARE NOT ALLOWED TO CHARGE THEM FOR THAT GROWTH, WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT WHATEVER THAT GROWTH INCURS, THAT GROWTH IS PAID FOR BY NEW PEOPLE COMING IN OFF OF THEIR CONNECTION FEES AND THEIR IMPACT FEES, THE CONNECTION AND IMPACT THAT THEY WILL HAVE ON THE OVERALL SYSTEM. WE ARE CURRENTLY IN A MAJOR CIP, EXPANDING OUR WASTEWATER -- PARDON ME, OUR WATER TREATMENT PLANT AND FACILITY. WE ARE BRINGING AN ADDITIONAL PROBABLY 10,000 LUS TO THE DRIPPING SPRINGS AREA AND THE VAST MAJORITY OF THE COMMENTS I SAW TODAY ARE ACTUALLY FROM FOLKS ASSOCIATED WITH -- EITHER THEY ARE NOT RATEPAYERS TO THE SYSTEM WHICH -- OR CUSTOMERS OF ONE OF THE WHOLESALE PROVIDERS IN THE SYSTEM OR THEY ARE ASSOCIATED WITH THE WATER SUPPLY COURT WHO HAS IN MY VIEW FAILED A PLAN FOR THEIR FUTURE, ALL THE WHILE THINKING WELL, THE PUA WILL BAIL US OUT AT SOME POINT.

THEY WILL PROVIDE THE WATER THAT WE NEED THAT WE SHOULD HAVE SECURED FOR OUR CUSTOMERS. AND I THINK THAT A LOT OF THE

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RHETORIC THAT WE HEARD TODAY IS OVER THE FACT THAT THE PUA HAS BEEN VERY DIRECT IN SAYING THAT YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE TO MAKE SOME CHANGES TO YOUR SYSTEM TO REALLY TRY TO PLAN FOR THE FUTURE IN ORDER FOR US TO FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH PROVIDING ADDITIONAL WATER SERVICE THERE. AND THAT BEING THE CASE, I WOULD LOVE TO HEAR FROM THE REST OF THE COURT BUT AFTER COMMENTS I WOULD MOVE FOR THE APPOINTMENT OF MR. ROBERTS.

>> THAT'S HOW WE DO IT. AFTER COMMENTS.

COMMISSIONER INGALSBE, ANYTHING TO ADD OR CONTRIBUTE?

>> I WOULD SAY, JUDGE, I GUESS I DID MENTION IT LAST TIME.

I THINK IF WE ARE GOING TO LOOK AT IT, WE NEED TO LOOK AT IT HOLISTICALLY, NOT JUST THE ORGANIZATION THAT WE APPOINT AND SO BECAUSE I'VE HEARD OF OTHER CONCERNS THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY WITH OTHER APPOINTMENTS THAT THIS BODY MAKES AND SO I JUST FEEL THAT IF WE ARE GOING TO DO THAT THEN WE NEED TO LOOK AT EVERY ENTITY THAT WE APPOINT PEOPLE TO AND SEE IF THAT IS WHAT THIS COURT WANTS TO DO AND MAYBE IT IS THE RIGHT THING TO DO TO GIVE OTHER PEOPLE AN OPPORTUNITY BUT UNTIL WE DO THAT I THINK I AM SUPPORTIVE OF THE APPOINTMENT AND WHEN WE LOOK AT THIS HOLISTICALLY AND GO FROM THERE.

>> I AGREE WITH COMMISSIONER INGALSBE, IT DEFINITELY OPENS A CONVERSATION OF ALL OF OUR BOARDS, I KIND OF DO BELIEVE IN LIMITS, THERE IS VALUE TO FRESH PERSPECTIVE ON ANY BOARD SO MR. ROBERTS HAS BEEN ON THE BOARD FOR HOW LONG?

>> HE WAS THE FIRST PERSON APPOINTED, I BELIEVE IT WAS THREE MONTHS AFTER IT WAS ESTABLISHED IN 2012.

I BELIEVE THAT'S CORRECT. I COULD BE WRONG.

I KNOW THAT I WAS THE SECOND PERSON EVER APPOINTED TO THE BOARD, IT WAS THE ORIGINAL BOARD UNTIL 2020 WITH THE EXCEPTION OF MR. ROBERTS UNTIL 2020 WHEN I RECEIVED MY APPOINTMENT AND THEN WITHIN FOUR MONTHS I WAS THE SECOND LONGEST SERVING PERSON ON

THE BOARD. >> WHEN THESE APPOINTMENTS ARE CONSIDERED, WHAT IS THE PROCESS TO INVITE OTHERS WHO MAY BE INTERESTED IN JOINING THE BOARD? DOES THAT HAPPEN WITHIN THE

ORGANIZATION? >> AS YOU DO ANYTHING IN YOUR PRECINCT, I HAVE I THINK NINE ESD BOARDS AND OTHER BOARDS WE APPOINT PEOPLE TO, I AM FOREVER ASKING PEOPLE AND AT TIMES THIS IS AN EXCEPTION TO THE RULE BECAUSE THERE IS OTHER INTEREST OUT THERE BUT YOU ALL KNOW BETTER THAN ANYBODY HOW HARD IT IS TO FIND SOMEBODY FOR SOME OF THESE BOARDS AND MY ONE CONCERN -- I COMPLETELY AGREE. IT'S A POSITIVE, AT TIMES IT'S HARD TO GET PEOPLE TO SERVE ON AN ESD BOARD OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. THIS ONE IS DIFFERENT.

I WILL SAY THAT ONE OF THE REASONS THAT I STAYED OFF THE BOARD IN 2020 WAS THEY WERE DOING SYSTEM UPGRADES AND EXPANSIONS WITH THAT CIP AT THE TIME AND SO THEY WERE LOOKING TO GO TO THE BOND MARKET AT THAT TIME AS AN ENTITY TO PAY FOR THOSE BONDS AND THERE WAS A CONCERN THAT IF THERE WAS A CHANGE IN BOARD STRUCTURE THAT IT WOULD HAVE AN IMPACT ON THE RATEPAYERS AND THEY DID NOT WANT THE RATEPAYERS TO HAVE TO PAY A HIGHER INTEREST RATE ON THOSE BONDS AND SO THAT'S THE REASON I STAYED OFF UNTIL AFTER THOSE BONDS WERE LET.

I KNOW WE ARE CURRENTLY IN THAT PROCESS NOW AS WELL.

>> THAT IS ALL I HAVE TO SAY. >> LAST TIME WHEN WE DISCUSSED THIS I DID NOT KNOW MR. ROBERTS, I HAD NEVER MET HIM IN MY LIFE SO I MADE THE POINT TO ASK HIM MY QUESTIONS AND TO MEET WITH HIM AND TO DETERMINE THE BIGGEST THING YOU HEAR IS CONFLICT OF INTEREST. YOU'VE HEARD THAT 100 TIMES.

AND HE DEFINITELY FROM THE RECUSING AND HE SEPARATES HIMSELF FROM ALL OF THOSE THINGS.

SAW WHERE HE HAS RECUSED HIMSELF SO ANSWERING MY QUESTIONS THERE BUT THEN I STARTED TO THINK WHERE CAN WE NOT FIND A CONFLICT OF INTEREST. IF WE WANTED TO BE A HAYS COUNTY RESIDENT, IN SOME WAY, SHAPE, OR FORM THEY WILL HAVE A CONFLICT OF INTEREST. THE BEST WE CAN DO IS HOPE THAT THEY DO RECUSE THEMSELVES FROM BEING ABLE TO VOTE ON THINGS SO THAT ALLEVIATES SOME OF MY CONCERNS.

I WILL SAY THAT THE WEST TRAVIS PUGH ENTIRELY IN PRECINCT FOUR SO WHEN WE TALK ABOUT WHERE WE ARE AT AS COMMISSIONERS WE ARE ELECTED WITHIN OUR PRECINCT TO REPRESENT OUR PRECINCT.

I AM NOT GOING TO GET IN THE HABIT OF PUTTING PEOPLE IN THE

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COMMISSIONERS PRECINCT AND HE WON'T DO THE SAME FOR ME BECAUSE HE DOES NOT UNDERSTAND MY PRECINCT LIKE I UNDERSTAND MY PRECINCT. SOME OF THOSE CONCERNS.

AGAIN, I DON'T KNOW COMMISSIONER INGLESBY'S PRECINCT AND I WOULD NOT PUT SOMEONE IN FOR HER OR ANYTHING OF THAT NATURE TO SERVE HER CONSTITUENTS AND I WOULD HOPE THAT THEY WOULD TRUST ME

WITH MY APPOINTMENTS. >> WITH THAT, JUDGE, IF YOU HAVE

ANY COMMENTS. >> I DO.

I HAVE HEARD LOUD AND CLEAR THESE MESSAGES AND IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, IT WAS THIS LAST TIME IN COURT IN THE OTHER SECTION, MISCELLANEOUS AND THEN WAS THIS IN MISCELLANEOUS LAST COURT?

>> I DON'T THINK SO. >> WAS IT IN CONSENT ALSO LAST TIME? BECAUSE I'M ALWAYS LOOKING AND PUSHING FOR, YOU HEARD IT WITH THE LICENSE PLATE READERS AND ALL THE OTHER THINGS. TRANSPARENCY AND PROCESS AND A HEADS-UP FOR PEOPLE AND I HEAR THESE CONCERNS AND COMPLAINTS AND I FEEL THAT THIS IS A VERY IMPORTANT CONVERSATION TO HAVE AND SO DO MANY OTHERS. I TOOK DOWN A BUNCH OF NOTES OF THE THINGS BEING SAID WHETHER THINGS ARE TRUE OR NOT, YES I'M GLAD TO HEAR TERM LIMITS, THAT'S GREAT, A GOOD IDEA BUT REALLY WE'VE BEEN LEFT OUT OF THIS CONVERSATION FOR QUITE SOME TIME AND HAVING HIM THERE SINCE 2012, THAT IS A LONG TIME AND HAVING SO MANY PEOPLE WANTING TO BE ON IT AND REPRESENTING THAT PART OF THE COUNTY AND US HEARING PEOPLE LAST QUARTER ASKING FOR IT TO BE OPENED UP AND ASKING FOR THE CONVERSATION AND IT COMING RIGHT BACK AS A CONSENT AGENDA ITEM, I AM NOT A FAN OF THAT PROCESS.

I THINK MR. ROBERTS WOULD HAVE BEEN GOOD TO COME HERE AND SHOW EVERYONE AND TALK TO EVERYONE AND DEFEND HIMSELF.

I APPRECIATE YOU, PUN INTENDED CARRYING WATER FOR HIM BUT WHEN SOMEONE WANTS AN APPOINTMENT FOR DECADES NOW WITHOUT CREATING A ROTATION OF PERSPECTIVES AND ASSESSMENTS, I THINK WE ARE FALLING SHORT TO CONTINUE TO DO MORE OF THE SAME.

I WAS AGAINST EVERGREEN CONTRACTS AND I KNOW SOME PEOPLE DID NOT LIKE THE IDEA BUT AUTOMATICALLY RENEWING CONTRACTS WAS I THOUGHT A WEAKNESS FOR US AS A GOVERNMENT THAT WE SHOULD ALWAYS OPEN IT UP. NOT ABOUT WHO WE LIKE AND WHO WE DON'T LIKE, WINNERS OR LOSERS BUT ABOUT THE IDEA THAT YOU KNOW WHAT, OPEN IT UP AND LET'S MAKE SURE WE ARE DOING THE HIGHEST AND BEST AND SO WHEN WE OPEN UP THIS PROCESS, A LOT OF THINGS THAT ARE REALLY GOOD BECAUSE THAT IS HONESTLY THE COMMUNITY THAT I'VE CALLED HOME FOR ALMOST 30 YEARS, THIS IS WHERE I RAISED MY SONS AND THEY DO A LOT OF THINGS RIGHT IN THIS SPACE OF APPOINTMENTS, BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS SO I THINK WE CAN LEARN FROM THEM ON HOW WE DO THIS WITH LIKE YOU SAID COMMISSIONER INGALSBE WITH SB, ALL APPOINTMENTS.

I CAN KEEP GOING, OF COURSE BUT THE IDEA IS THAT THIS IS LACKING IN ACCESS, IT IS LACKING IN TRANSPARENCY, THE PODIUM IS EMPTY, IT'S LACKING IN EXPLANATION, IT'S LACKING ON A LOT OF FRONTS AND YOU SAID A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT I WROTE DOWN, ATTACKING A CITIZEN OF OUR COUNTY THAT THESE LETTERS -- OR SOME OF THEM, I WILL SAY ATTACKING A CITIZEN OF OUR COUNTY AND HE LIVES HERE AND HE CHOSE TO BUILD A BUSINESS HERE AND YOU PREVIOUSLY SAID, I THOUGHT, THAT HE WAS NOT A

RESIDENT. >> I BELIEVED HE WASN'T A RESIDENT BUT I HAVE SINCE CONFIRMED THAT THAT HE IS A

RESIDENT OF THE COUNTY. >> HE IS?

>> CORRECT. >> OKAY.

>> HIS DRIVER'S LICENSE. >> HE IS A RESIDENT OF THE COUNTY AND HE LIVES HERE AND HE VOTES HERE.

HE HAS LIVED HERE HIS ENTIRE LIFE, HE OWNS PROPERTY OUTSIDE

OF HAYS COUNTY AND SO DO. >> OWNERSHIP OF PROPERTY IS A MOOT POINT BUT RESIDING IN THE COUNTY IS THE PIECE THAT I WANTED TO MAKE SURE BECAUSE YOU WEREN'T SURE AND PEOPLE SAID HE LIVES IN AUSTIN AND SO WE AS A HAYS COUNTY COMMISSIONER COURT SHOULD APPOINT HAYS COUNTY RESIDENTS.

AND SO I FEEL THAT I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING AGAINST HIM EITHER, BUT MY POINT IS THAT I FEEL THAT WE SHOULD OPEN UP SINCE THERE IS SO MUCH REQUEST AND INTEREST IN THIS POSITION I THINK WE SHOULD OPEN IT UP AND NOT JUST MAKE A BLANKET APPOINTMENT ON SOMETHING

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THAT SO MANY PEOPLE WANT TO BE INCLUDED IN ON THE CONVERSATION.

I THINK THAT IS THE LAST THING I WANT TO SAY.

NOT TO BEAT A DEAD HORSE. >> MOVE FOR THE APPOINTMENT.

>> IF THERE ARE NO OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS, PLEASE

CALL THE ROLL. >> JUST QUESTIONS FOR JORDAN.

WHY WOULD THIS BE PUT UNDER CONSENT THAN THE OTHER CATEGORIES FROM A LEGAL PERSPECTIVE? THAT WAS A BIG HEARTACHE -- HEARTBURN FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE.

>> SURE. JORDAN, FIRST ASSISTANT, CANDACE AND HER TEAM ARE WELCOME TO JOIN IN BECAUSE THEY HELP WITH THE AGENDA PREP NOW BUT I ROUTINELY, ANY APPOINTMENTS TO BOARDS WHETHER ESDS, P UAS, ET CETERA, SOME OF THE BOARDS YOU TALK ABOUT TODAY, THOSE REAPPOINTMENTS ARE TYPICALLY -- ORIGINAL APPOINTMENTS SOMETIMES ARE USUALLY ON THE CONSENT AGENDA. THAT IS WHERE THEY HAVE ROUTINELY BEEN BUT SINCE WE DON'T PREPARE THE AGENDA ANY MORE I'M HAPPY TO LET CANDACE DIAL IN IF THERE IS FURTHER DETAIL THAN THAT THAT MIGHT EXPLAIN IT.

>> STATE YOUR NAME AND TITLE FOR THE VIEWING PUBLIC.

>> CANDACE BUTI, COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR.

I WILL ECHO JORDAN'S SENTIMENT THAT OUR DEPARTMENT TYPICALLY WE HAVE PUT THOSE APPOINTMENTS ON CONSENT UNLESS THE COURT HAS EXPRESSED THAT THEY LIKE TO PULL THE ITEM, IF THE COURT WOULD LIKE TO GIVE DIRECTION ON US PUTTING THOSE ON MISCELLANEOUS,

WE CERTAINLY CAN. >> I WOULD ALSO MENTION WE ANTICIPATE THAT THE TWO OTHER ENTITIES WILL HAVE APPOINTMENTS OR AT LEAST ONE OF THE OTHER TWO ENTITIES WILL HAVE AN APPOINTMENT IN THE NEXT MONTH THAT AGAIN WE DON'T HAVE A SAY OVER WHO THE NOMINEES ARE, WE JUST HAVE AN UP OR DOWN VOTE AS TO WHETHER OR NOT WE WOULD APPROVE THEM AND THOSE WILL PROBABLY COME WITHIN THE NEXT ONE TO TWO COURT SESSIONS AND THIS IS A PROCESS SINCE I'VE BEEN AROUND IN 2020 THEY ALWAYS COME IN AT THE END OF JULY AND BEGINNING OF AUGUST AND I'M NOT SURE OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD WHICH ONE OF THOSE TWO WILL COME BUT I WANT TO ANTICIPATE AGAIN THAT WILL PROBABLY BE ON THE CONSENT. I DON'T KNOW WHY IT WOULDN'T BE.

BUT I WANT TO REITERATE THAT ALL THREE OF THE ENTITIES HAVE TO VOTE FOR THAT APPOINTMENT AND SO THERE IS -- I. HAVE TO PUT TRUST IN THE CITY THAT THEY ARE APPOINTING SOMEONE THAT SHOULD BE APPROVED AND IF THEY HAVE TO DO DUE DILIGENCE ON THOSE INDIVIDUALS WE SHOULD BE DOING THE SAME THING.

I TRY TO EXPONENTIALLY ESPECIALLY BECAUSE I'M NOT AS FAMILIAR WITH THAT COMMUNITY, IT IS ONE SMALL NEIGHBORHOOD IN TRAVIS COUNTY BUT I WOULD JUST TELL MY COLLEAGUES ANTICIPATE WE WILL GET AT LEAST ONE WITHIN THE NEXT MONTH.

>> MR. ROBERTS IS THE PRESIDENT, CORRECT? WHO PUTS THEM IN CHARGE TO BE THE PRESIDENT?

>> THE REST OF THE BOARD VOTES ON THE APPOINTMENTS, THERE ARE THREE OFFICER POSITIONS, A PRESIDENT, A VICE PRESIDENT AND A SECRETARY TREASURER AND THOSE ARE VOTED ON BY THE FIVE MEMBERS OF THE BOARD AND SO THE REST OF THE BOARD HAS EXPRESSED THEIR SUPPORT OF HIS LEADERSHIP BY HIS APPOINTMENT AS THE PRESIDENT.

THE VICE PRESIDENT OF THE BOARD IS JACK WHO IS AN APPOINTEE FROM THE CITY AND I HAVE BEEN ELECTED AS THE SECRETARY TREASURER.

>> OKAY. ALL OF THEM BELIEVE THAT HE AS LEADERSHIP HAS BEEN SUCCESSFUL AND THOSE EFFORTS THERE.

>> CORRECT. >> WHEN IT COMES TO THE GOLF COURSE, HE IS PART OWNER, WHAT IS HIS RELATION AND

CONNECTION TO THAT? >> HE SOLD THE PROPERTY.

>> BUT THE FIRST PART, HE DEVELOPED IT?

>> NO. HE SOLD THE PROPERTY AS RAW

PROPERTY. >> OKAY.

I FEEL GOOD. >> HOW MUCH MONEY IS IN THAT

BANK ACCOUNT? >> IN THAT BANK ACCOUNT? YOU HAVE TO BE MORE SPECIFIC BECAUSE WE HAVE ABOUT 30 OF THEM. WHAT I WOULD SAY IS IN OUR OVERALL CIP, PROBABLY ABOUT A $220 MILLION OVERALL CIP THAT IS CURRENTLY IN OPERATION WITH PROJECTS.

PROBABLY OPERATING BUDGET PROBABLY ABOUT 60 MILLION.

IT VARIES FROM MONTH TO MONTH. I MEAN, IT'S A LARGE BUDGET.

>> 220 PLUS 60? >> NO.

AGAIN, WITH OUR CIP BUDGET IT HAS BEEN DONE VERY DIFFERENTLY IN. A LOT OF THAT IS BONDED FUNDS AND SO RIGHT NOW WE HAVE PROBABLY 15 TO 20 PROJECTS IN PROCESS AND DEPENDING ON WHAT DAY OF THE MONTH THEY ARE ON, ONE OF THOSE PROJECTS COULD FLUCTUATE.

FOR EXAMPLE, AN AWARD FOR A PIPELINE THIS WEEK OR PARDON ME, LAST WEEK, TWO DAYS AGO. THAT WAS 11 AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS SO THOSE ACCOUNTS FLUCTUATE WITH 30 PROJECTS GOING, THEY FLUCTUATE UP AND DOWN ON A MONTHLY BASIS BY TENS

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OF BILLIONS OF DOLLARS. >> YOU SAID THAT DRIPPING SPRINGS WATER SUPPLY CORPS DID NOT PREPARE FOR THE FUTURE AND THAT'S WHY YOU'RE HAVING SO MUCH BUTTING HEADS.

CAN YOU ELABORATE ON THAT? >> THE DRIPPING SPRINGS WATER SUPPLY COURT OPERATE SOLELY ON GROUNDWATER WITH THE EXCEPTION OF A VOLUMETRIC CONTRACT WHICH WAS ESTABLISHED BY THE LCRA PRIOR TO THE FOUNDING OF THE PUA FOR 1 MILLION GALLONS PER DAY.

GIVEN THE FACT THAT WE ARE UNDER -- WE HAVE HAD A PROLONGED DROUGHT, THE GROUNDWATER DISTRICT, THE HAYS COUNTY GROUNDWATER DISTRICT HAS PROHIBITED THE DRILLING OF ANY COMMERCIAL WELLS WITHIN FOR RATE AT TWO YEARS NOW.

I THINK THE ANTICIPATION, AND I CAN'T SPEAK, I WOULD NEVER VENTURE TO SPEAK FOR THE DRIPPING SPRINGS WATER SUPPLY COURT BOARD BUT THEY ALWAYS FELT LIKE IF THEY NEEDED ADDITIONAL WATER THEY COULD JUST PUT MORE WELLS IN THE GROUND OR THEY COULD COME TO THE PUA AND SAY WE NEED ADDITIONAL WATER, CAN YOU PROVIDE THAT WATER TO US? UNFORTUNATELY, THAT IS NOT THE WAY IT WORKS. THE PUA -- WE HAVE A POLICY WE WILL TAKE NO ADDITIONAL COMMERCIAL OR WHOLESALE WATER CUSTOMERS AND THOSE CUSTOMERS THAT WE DO HAVE OF THE 14 CUSTOMERS THAT THE PUA HAVE, THEY ALL OPERATE ON AN LLU

BASIS. >> YOU ARE GETTING TOO MANY

LETTERS IN THEIR. >> LIVABLE UNIT EQUIVALENT BASIS SO FOR EVERY ONE OF THOSE LUES, THAT WHOLESALE CUSTOMER GETS 86T PEAK. MOST OF THEM DON'T USE NEAR THAT BUT UNDER STATE LAW THAT IS WHAT WE WOULD HAVE TO PROVIDE.

THE CONTRACT THAT THE DRIPPING SPRINGS WATER SUPPLY COURT HAS IS FOR 1 MILLION GALLONS PER DAY.

NO LUES ASSOCIATED. OVERTIME, SINCE THE ESTABLISHMENT OF THE WEST TRAVIS COUNTY PUA, ALL OF THOSE CONTRACTS, ALL OF THOSE WHOLESALE CONTRACTS HAVE -- ANY TIME THERE'S BEEN ADDITIONAL WATER REQUESTED, ALL OF THOSE -- WE HAVE TO LOOK AT WHAT SYSTEM IMPROVEMENTS HAVE TO BE DONE IN ORDER TO DELIVER THAT WATER, WHAT THE COST OF THAT WOULD BE AND THOSE WHOLESALE CUSTOMERS HAD TO PAY FOR THAT AND THEY HAVE DONE SO ON A LIVABLE UNIT EQUIVALENT BASIS AND AT THIS POINT THEY HAVE REFUSED TO NEGOTIATE TO DO THAT.

>> HAVE THEY COME TO YOU AND ASKED YOU FOR MORE WATER?

>> ABSOLUTELY. THEY CAME AND ASKED FOR ADDITIONAL WATER AND AT THAT TIME THERE WAS AN OFFER BY THE PUA TO SAY LOOK, WE WILL GET YOU MORE ADDITIONAL WATER, HOWEVER, CURRENTLY THE LUE CALCULATION THEY USE IS NOT THE 864 GALLONS FOR THAT MILLION GALLONS, THEY PAID ABOUT 500 CONNECTION FEES WHICH WOULD EQUATE TO ABOUT 160T TWICE WHAT EVERYONE ELSE IN THE SYSTEM WOULD GET SO THEY'VE PAID ABOUT HALF OF THE CONNECTION FEES THAT THEY WOULD GET SO THE PUA SAID WE WILL NEGOTIATE WITH YOU BUT YOU WILL HAVE TO PAY FOR THOSE ADDITIONAL LUES THAT YOU ARE RECEIVING AND IN ADDITION YOU WILL HAVE TO CONVERT YOUR CONTRACT TO THE STANDARD CONTRACT THAT ALL OF THE OTHER 13 ENTITIES USED AND ADDITIONALLY WE KNOW THAT YOU ARE USING GROUNDWATER AND WE WOULD BE WILLING TO -- IF ALL OF OUR OTHER CONTRACTS ARE EXCLUSIVE CONTRACTS --

>> SOI, COMMISSIONER. WHOEVER HAS A PHONE THAT CAN'T TURN IT OFF. PLEASE GO OUTSIDE.

SORRY, COMMISSIONER, GO AHEAD. >> ALL OF THOSE OTHER CONTRACTS ARE OPERATING UNDER A BASIS SO WE SAID YOU WOULD NEED TO -- ALL OF THOSE CONTRACTS ARE EXCLUSIVE.

IF THE PUA SPENDS MILLIONS OF DOLLARS TO BRING ADDITIONAL WATER TO A WHOLESALE CUSTOMER THEN THERE HAS TO BE A GUARANTEE THAT YOU ARE GOING TO USE THAT WATER AND THAT INFRASTRUCTURE WILL BE PAID FOR AND SO ALL OF THOSE OTHER USERS HAVE SAID WE WILL CUT OFF ANY GROUNDWATER USAGE THAT WE HAVE AND THE PUA WILL BE THE EXCLUSIVE PROVIDER OF WATER FOR THAT ENTITY.

THE DRIPPING SPRINGS WATER SUPPLY COURT HAS REFUSED TO DO THAT AND THERE WAS EVEN AN OFFER TO SAY LOOK, WHATEVER YOU PUMP OUT OF THE GROUND, WE WILL GIVE IT TO YOU AT COST, THAT SAME AMOUNT OF WATER THE PUA WILL GIVE THAT TO YOU AT OUR COST AND PROVIDE IT TO YOU AND THAT WAS REFUSED.

>> LONG STORY SHORT, THEY CAME TO YOU FOR MORE WATER AND YOU SAID TO CUT OFF THEIR GROUNDWATER SUPPLY AND YOU WOULD GIVE THEM WATER AT COST AND THEY DIDN'T WANT TO CUT OFF THE

GROUNDWATER SUPPLY. >> THAT WAS PART OF THE EQUATION. THERE WAS A LOT MORE TO THAT EQUATION, BUT, YES, PACKED THE CONVERSION OF THE CONTRACT WAS

THE BIGGEST PROBLEM. >> WHY WOULD THEY NOT WANT TO

TURN OFF THE GROUNDWATER? >> BECAUSE THEY CONSIDER IT F

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FREE. >> BUT ALSO I REMEMBER A FEW SHORT MONTHS AGO YOU HAD A NOTICE, HOW MANY HAVE YOU HAD IN

THE LAST YEAR? >> IN THE LAST YEAR MAYBE TWO, ONE WAS FOR A LINE BREAK THAT WE HAD NO CONTROL OVER AND ONE WAS FOR A PRESSURIZATION ISSUE WITHIN THE PLANT WHENEVER THEY WERE SWITCHING OUT FILTRATION UNITS.

I THINK BOTH OF THOSE LASTED FOR LESS THAN SIX HOURS ONCE TESTING WAS DONE AND WHAT HAPPENS IS THE WATER IN A WATER SYSTEM LIKE THIS, THE VAST MAJORITY OF THAT WATER, WHEN DO YOU THINK IT'S USED? IT'S USED BETWEEN 7:00 AT NIGHT AND 7:00 A.M. IN THE MORNING ESPECIALLY IN THE THREE HIGHEST USAGE MONTHS OF THE YEAR WHICH ARE AUGUST SEPTEMBER AND OCTOBER. IT'S NOT THE MIDDLE OF THE SUMMER, IT'S THE END OF THE SUMMER.

EVERY WATER SYSTEM IN THE COUNTY, IF YOU TAKE THEM ON AVERAGE DURING THAT TIME. ABOUT 75 TO 78% AND IN SOME CASES OVER 80% OF THAT WATER IS USED FOR IRRIGATION OVERNIGHT SO THOSE TANKS HAVE TO FILL AGAIN IN THE MORNING.

THE LAST TIME THAT THERE WAS A BOIL WATER NOTICE WHERE WE HAD MAJOR ISSUES WITHIN OUR SYSTEM WAS WHEN THE PEAK IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT, WHILE WE WERE PRODUCING WATER AS WE WERE GOING, THEY SHUT OFF THE POWER TO OUR WATER TREATMENT PLANT SO WE HAD NO ABILITY TO PRODUCE WATER FOR SEVERAL HOURS.

WHAT HAPPENS IS THE STORAGE SUPPLY THAT YOU HAVE IN THOSE TANKS, THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH THE WATER BUT ONCE IT GETS DOWN TO A CERTAIN. OR A CERTAIN POINT IN THOSE STORAGE FACILITIES, IT AUTOMATICALLY TRIGGERS A BOIL WATER NOTICE SO THAT'S WHAT OCCURRED IN THAT SITUATION BUT IT'S NOT UNCOMMON. ACTUALLY WE'VE HAD MORE FROM OUR WHOLESALE USERS WHO'VE HAD LINE BREAKS AND THOSE KINDS OF THINGS IN THE LAST YEARS THAN WE'VE HAD OURSELVES.

>> LET ME ASK YOU THIS BECAUSE WE ALL HAVE THAT APPRECIATION OF OPPORTUNITIES AND OPTIONS, WHY WOULD YOU GUYS PENALIZE SOMEONE CREATING A BACKUP PLAN FOR PROVIDING WATER TO THEIR RESIDENTS WHEN YOU'VE HAD HOWEVER MANY AND FOR WHATEVER REASON BOIL WATER NOTICES AND NOT IN THE SAME INSTANCE.

WHAT IS WRONG WITH THE IDEA OF THE DIVERSIFICATION PIECE IF THEY SAID LEAVE US OUR WELLS BUT WE ARE CURRENTLY DEPENDING ON THEM AND WE WILL BUY WATER FROM YOU.

>> THAT WOULD PROBABLY BE DOABLE.

>> IF I MAY -- >> IS THAT GETTING TOO FAR FOR

YOU? >> IT'S GETTING PRETTY FAR.

>> I UNDERSTAND SOME OF THE QUESTIONS ARE RELATED TO THE FUNCTIONS OF THE BOARD AND YOU ARE DOING AN APPOINTMENT HERE AND THOSE ARE ABSOLUTELY VALID QUESTIONS.

I THINK WE ARE GETTING A LITTLE INTO THE WEEDS SO IF WE COULD

WRAP IT UP, THAT WOULD BE GREAT. >> THAT'S FAIR.

>> THANK YOU, JUDGE, I APPRECIATE THAT.

>> AS IT WAS MENTIONED EARLIER, I'M ALSO THE COMMISSIONER FOR PRECINCT FOUR AND MY LEVEL OF CONFIDENCE GIVEN THE FACT THAT THAT SPECIFIC ENTITY HAS OVERPUMPED THEIR WELLS, THEY ARE THE SECOND LARGEST OVER PUMPER AND --

>> THEY ARE NOT HERE TO DEFEND THEMSELVES EITHER SO.

>> THEY WERE WILLING TO MAKE COMMENTS SO I WILL MAKE A

COMMENT. >> THOSE INDIVIDUALS, I WOULD RATHER YOU KEEP IT TIGHT SO WE CAN WRAP THIS UP.

>> ONE THING IN REGARDS TO THE COMMENTS BECAUSE THIS WAS STATED IN THE COMMENT BECAUSE EVERYONE SAID THE PUA ONLY ALLOWS FOR INDOOR WATERING AND ARE ON RESTRICTIONS AND LOTS OF TALK ABOUT THE MAKE UP OF THAT AND THE RESTRICTIONS THAT COME ALONG WITH IT. I WANT TO SAY THAT FROM THE WATER SUPPLY STUDY THAT WE ARE DOING, THIS WILL RELATE BACK, I PROMISE, THE WATER SUPPLY STUDY THAT WE ARE DOING SHOWED THAT DRIPPING SPRINGS IN TOTAL FROM THE WATER SUPPLY COMPANIES OVER THERE ARE AROUND AN AVERAGE OF 7500 GALLONS PER MONTH PER HOUSEHOLD. AND IN WIMBERLEY WE ARE AT 3500 PER HOUSEHOLD PER MONTH SO IT JUST, THE WHOLE INDOOR WATERING USE AND RESTRICTIONS IN THOSE TYPE OF THINGS, WIMBERLEY IS ABLE TO DO IT FOR HALF OF WHAT DRIPPING SPRINGS IN A TOTAL ARE.

>> THOSE ARE ALSO DICTATED BECAUSE WE PURCHASE OUR WATER FROM THE LCRA SO WE HAVE TO IMPLEMENT ALL OF THE RESTRICTIONS THAT THEY HAVE AND CURRENTLY FOR ANY ADDITIONAL WATER THAT THE LCRA IS PROVIDING THEY ARE ASKING FOR PERMANENT STAGE TWO RESTRICTIONS ON THE ENTIRE SYSTEM.

>> CHAIR: PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

>> COMMISSIONER SMITH. >> COMMISSIONER COHEN, COMMISSIONER HAMMER, COMMISSIONER INGALSBE.

>> GOODNESS GRACIOUS. YES.

[G.30. Authorize the purchase of a new fence from Elite Fence Company, Inc. for the Hays County Transportation Yard located at 2171 Yarrington Road in the amount of $95,590.00 and amend the budget accordingly. INGALSBE/A.JONES]

>> JUDGE BECERRA. >> NO.

>> PLEASE OPEN G30. >> AUTHORIZED A PURCHASE OF A

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NEW FENCE FROM ELITE INC. FOR THE TRANSPORTATION YARD LOCATED AT 2171 YERINGTON ROAD IN THE AMOUNT OF $95,590 AND AMEND THE

BUDGET ACCORDINGLY. >> I ASKED FOR SOME INFORMATION ABOUT THIS SOME IMAGES BESIDES THE GENERIC MAP THAT WAS ON THE INFORMATION BECAUSE I WANT TO UNDERSTAND WHY WE WILL SPEND $100,000 ON A FENCE AND I WAS NOT ABLE TO GET IT ON TIME AND I WAS WONDERING IF YOU KNEW ANY MORE THAN I DID.

>> COULD YOU REPEAT THE NUMBER AGAIN?

>> 30. >> I WAS ABLE TO NEGOTIATE, OUR TEAM WAS ABLE TO NEGOTIATE AN ADDITIONAL 5 ACRES FOR MR. COLEMAN FOR OUR TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT.

WE FEEL THAT IT'S IMPORTANT TO FENCE THAT AREA, ONE BECAUSE IT IS NOW OUR PROPERTY BUT ALSO WE HAVE RUN OUT OF SPACE AND SO WE ARE TRYING TO TRANSFER SOME OF THAT EQUIPMENT ONTO THIS PROPERTY AND SO WE HAVE MILLIONS AND MILLIONS OF DOLLARS WORTH OF EQUIPMENT WE WANT TO TRY TO PROTECT AND SO REALLY THAT IS THE REASON TO IDENTIFY THAT IT IS NOW HAYS COUNTY PROPERTY BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY TO SECURE OUR EQUIPMENT AND OTHER ASSETS WE

HAVE OUT THERE IN THE AREA. >> VERY GOOD.

I COULD NOT GET THAT ANSWER BELIEVE IT OR NOT.

SHOULDN'T THAT COME FROM A DIFFERENT FUNDING SOURCE? IF YOU CAN PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND TITLE FOR THE VIEWING

PUBLIC. >> SCOTT, BUDGET OFFICER.

IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE, THE BRIDGE FUNDS COULD BE USED BECAUSE THAT IS THE ROAD AND BRIDGE TRANSPORTATION ALTHOUGH THAT IS NOT THE MAIN FOCUS OF THOSE FUNDS, I WOULD SAY BUT DUE TO IT BEING THE ROAD AND BRIDGE AND SECURING THAT LOCATION JUST LIKE FUNDS CAN BE USED FOR SUPPLIES I BELIEVE BECAUSE IT IS RELATED THAT IT WOULD BE OKAY. LIKE I SAID, NOT THE FUNCTION

THAT MOST PEOPLE THINK OF. >> YOU BRIDGE THAT FUNDING SOURCE OVER TO THAT. I CONSIDER IT A REACH BUT THE SPIRIT OF THAT FUND IS FOR RESIDENTS TO HAVE THE SUPPORT, THE FINANCIAL SUPPORT AND I FEEL THAT THIS SHOULD BE FROM OUR INTERNAL OPERATIONAL BUDGET, THAT WAS THE ONLY THING I WOULD SAY, I FULLY SUPPORT IT JUST THE SOURCE WHERE IF YOU HAVE SOMEONE BUILDING A ROADWAY AND THEIR FENCE IS GONE WE WOULD USE THE MONEY FOR THAT FENCE BUT NOT FOR OUR OWN SO MY ONLY REQUEST IS THAT WE WOULD LEAVE THAT FOR THE RESIDENTS BUDGET AND INSTEAD CONSIDER COMMISSIONER, I SUPPORT YOUR FENCE, CONSIDER A DIFFERENT

SOURCE. >> I JUST HAVE ONE QUESTION.

SINCE IT IS COMING OUT OF THE CONTRACT, ROAD AND BRIDGE, DO WE HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL CONTRACTS COMING FORWARD FOR THAT ACCOUNT BEFORE THE END OF THE YEAR? THAT WAS MY ONLY QUESTION BECAUSE I THINK THAT IS PROBABLY MONEY THAT WOULD BE ROLLED INTO NEXT FISCAL YEAR FOR ROAD AND BRIDGE CONTRACTING.

WE JUST DID ALL OF OUR CONTRACTING LAST SESSION OF COURT, THAT IS THE REASON I WAS WONDERING.

>> YES, COMMISSIONER SMITH. SO IN THAT REGARD THERE ARE STILL CONTRACT BUDGET LEFT OVER IN THE ROAD AND BRIDGE DEPARTMENT. WITH THAT BEING SAID, THIS WOULD BE CONSIDERED A CAPITAL ITEM BUT I BELIEVE THAT THAT IS THE SOURCE THAT WE MOVE THE FUNDING FOR IN ORDER TO RECOGNIZE THIS

CAPITAL ITEM. >> THE SPIRIT OF THE FUND IS FOR CAPITAL. THANK YOU FOR USING THAT WORD.

I ONLY ASK THAT IT CHANGE ITS SOURCE.

I SUPPORT THE PROJECT, JUST CHANGING THE FUNDING SOURCE.

ARE YOU ABLE TO PULL THAT OFF? >> JUDGE, I WOULD HAVE TO LOOK INTO OUR GENERAL FUND IF THAT IS THE CASE AND SEE WHAT FUNDS I

CAN LOCATE WITHIN THERE. >> COMMISSIONER, WOULD YOU BE

OKAY WITH THAT MILD EDIT? >> I AM FINE AS LONG AS WE CAN FIND THE FUNDING FOR IT OR THE PARTIAL FUNDING FOR IT FROM OTHER SOURCES, I'M FINE WITH THAT.

>> YOU HEARD THE DIRECTION FROM THE COURT, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

>> COMMISSIONER COHEN. >> COMMISSIONER HAMER.

>> COMMISSIONER INGLES B. COMMISSIONER SMITH,

JUDGE BECERRA. >> ONE QUICK COMMENT ON THE ITEM -- THE PREVIOUS ITEM. CAN WE ALSO ASK -- I. DON'T KNOW WHAT DEPARTMENT THAT WOULD BE. I'M LOOKING AT SOMEBODY BUT I'M NOT SURE. I WOULD LIKE TO GET A LIST OF ALL OF THE ORGANIZATIONS OR DEPARTMENTS OR AGENCIES OR WHATEVER IT IS, BOARDS THAT WE APPOINT PEOPLE TO AND MAYBE WE CAN HAVE A FURTHER MORE DETAILED DISCUSSION OF APPOINTMENTS AND

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HOW WE WANT TO MOVE FORWARD ON THOSE.

>> WE WILL SEND THIS OUT TO THE COURT.

>> PERFECT. I ASK ONE STEP FURTHER, COMMISSIONER, IF YOU DON'T MIND. LET'S BRING IN AGENDA ITEMS AND HAVE PROPER DIALOG THAT WE CAN OPENLY DISCUSS OFFICIALLY AND LEGALLY, THANK YOU. I AM GOING DOWN THE LIST AND I WILL GO J2 AND J3 AND I'VE BEEN ASKED TO PULL K15.

[J.2. PLN-2981-PC; Hold a Public Hearing on July 28th, 2026 regarding the Rolling Oaks Sec 4, Lot 77, Replat. HAMMER/BERLAD]

J2, PLEASE. >> J2.

HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING ON JULY 28TH, 2026 REGARDING THE ROLLING OAKS SECTION FOR, LOT 77, REPLAT.

>> I'M OPENING THIS FOR A PUBLIC HEARING.

ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS AGENDA ITEM PLEASE APPROACH THE PODIUM. THIS IS YOUR CHANCE TO SAY WHATEVER YOU WANT. JUST STATE YOUR NAME AND TITLE IF YOU HAVE ONE ASSOCIATED WITH THE AGENDA ITEM AND WE WILL GIVE

YOU 3 MINUTES TO SPEAK. >> MY NAME IS RICKY CHARLES DODSON. THANK YOU, JUDGE AND COMMISSIONERS. I AM DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET FROM THIS PROPERTY. I UNDERSTAND THAT THE COMMISSIONER COURT'S RESPONSIBILITY TODAY IS TO DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT THIS SUBDIVISION COMPLIES WITH TEXAS LAW IN HAYS COUNTY SUBDIVISION REGULATION AND I ALSO UNDERSTAND THAT THE COURT DOES NOT ENFORCE PRIVATE RESTRICTIONS HOWEVER I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT TO THE COURT AND THE DEVELOPER SEVERAL FACTS. WE HAVE DEED RESTRICTIONS.

THIS TRACK IS SUBJECT TO THE ROLLING OAK DEED RESTRICTIONS WHICH PROHIBIT COMMERCIAL OR BUSINESS ENTERPRISES.

THESE RESTRICTIONS ARE NOT SIMPLY WORDS IN AN OLD DOCUMENT, THEY HAVE BEEN ACTIVELY ENFORCED AND DEFENDED BY THE PROPERTY OWNERS FOR MANY YEARS. IN FACT, THIS IS THE SAME PROPERTY WHERE A COMMERCIAL BAR WAS ONCE PROPOSED.

113 PROPERTY OWNERS JOINED TOGETHER IN A LAWSUIT TO ENFORCE THESE DEED RESTRICTIONS AND AS A RESULT THE COMMERCIAL PROPERTY DID NOT GO FORWARD. THAT HISTORY DEMONSTRATES THAT THE RESTRICTIONS ARE REAL. THAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD TAKE THEM SERIOUSLY AND THAT THE PROPERTY OWNERS ARE WILLING TO ENFORCE AND DEFEND THEM WHEN NECESSARY. A FEW DAYS AGO I SENT THE DEVELOPER A CERTIFIED LETTER WELCOMING THEM TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND INFORMING THEM OF THESE DEED RESTRICTIONS SO THERE WILL BE NO MISUNDERSTANDING IN THE FUTURE.

I RESPECTFULLY ASK THE DEVELOPER TO ASK A FEW QUESTIONS.

IS HE HERE? >> I DON'T KNOW.

>> FOR THE RECORD, I AM ASKING THAT HE ANSWER A FEW QUESTIONS AT SOME TIME. DO YOU ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THIS PROPERTY IS SUBJECT TO ROLLING OAKS DEED RESTRICTIONS? WILL EVERY PROSPECTIVE PURCHASER RECEIVE A COPY OF THESE RESTRICTIONS BEFORE PURCHASING A LOT? WILL THOSE RESTRICTIONS BE DISCLOSED IN THE SALES CONTRACT AND AT CLOSING? AND WILL THE LOTS BE MARKETED AND REPRESENTED AS RESIDENTIAL ONLY LOTS? SUBJECT TO THESE RESTRICTIONS. IN ADDITION, I REPRESENT A NUMBER OF THE PEOPLE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD WITH THESE THREE CONCERNS. FIRST, ON ONE SIDE OF THIS PROPERTY IS -- THE ENTIRE PROPERTY IS VERY SMALL WITH ONE WAY IN AND ONE WAY OUT. ON ONE SIDE WHICH HAS AN ACCESS TO THAT PROPERTY NOW, RIGHT ON WHAT WE CALL DEAD MAN'S CURVE, AN EXTREMELY DANGEROUS LITTLE CURVE.

WE LIVE RIGHT THERE AND IT'S REALLY HARD FOR US TO GET IN AND OUT WITHOUT GETTING CREAMED. ON THE OTHER SIDE, ROLLING OAKS DRIVE IS AT THE TOP OF THE BLIND HILL.

YOU DON'T GET TO SEE UNTIL YOU GET RIGHT THERE, RIGHT THERE WHERE THIS PROPERTY IS, YOU DO NOT GET TO SEE WHAT'S IN FRONT OF YOU. WE ARE TALKING ABOUT FIVE PIECES OF PROPERTY, SQUEEZED INTO A LITTLE PIECE OF LAND.

WE WANT TO KNOW, THAT IT WILL BE SAFE AND THAT THEY THOUGHT THIS THROUGH AND WE ARE NOT SOMEHOW ENDANGERING NOT ONLY US BUT EVERYONE ELSE THAT COMES TO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD WITH THIS SITUATION. SECONDLY, FIRE.

>> I HAVE TO ASK. HOW MUCH LONGER DO YOU HAVE TO

WRAP UP? >> LESS THAN 30S.

FIRE. THIS PROPERTY IS SET UP IN A WAY THAT HE WILL BREAK IT UP AND INTO FIVE PIECES, SEVERAL OF WHICH ARE DEEP INTO THE PROPERTY WITH NO OTHER ACCESS.

WE'VE HAD FIRES OUT THERE OUR ENTIRE NEIGHBORHOOD OF 400 FAMILIES IS WOODS, DENSE WOODS. WE'VE HAD FIRES BEFORE AND WE WANT TO MAKE ABSOLUTELY SURE THAT HE'S THOUGHT THIS THROUGH AND THAT THERE IS SOME SORT OF A PLAN FOR ACCESS TO FIRE TRUCKS AND OTHER EMERGENCY VEHICLES AND THIRDLY, DRAINAGE.

THIS IS ON A SLOPE, THERE'S A CREEK ON ONE SIDE, WE ARE

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TALKING ABOUT PUTTING FIVE PIECES OF PROPERTY IN THERE, EACH ONE WITH A WATER TANK, I PRESUME.

THIS IS GOING TO GREATLY ADD TO THE WATER USE.

WE WANT TO KNOW IF HE'S THOUGHT THROUGH THE SITUATION IN SUCH A WAY THAT DRAINAGE WILL NOT -- WE'VE HAD THIS PROBLEM BEFORE, WILL NOT NEGATIVELY IMPACT THE PROPERTIES AROUND IT.

THANK YOU, YOUR HONOR, AND COMMISSIONER.

>> THANK YOU. IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE WISHING TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS AGENDA ITEM? THANK YOU. IF YOU WILL STATE YOUR NAME AND TITLE. AT THE PODIUM.

>> THANK YOU. MY NAME IS STEVE BURKHART AND I LIVE ADJACENT TO THE PROPERTY. MY PROPERTY IS 76 AND THIS PROPERTY WOULD BE 77. AND LET ME SAY, COMMISSIONER AND JUDGE AND COMMISSIONERS, THIS IS THE FIRST TIME I HAVE ATTENDED THIS. I AM VERY IMPRESSED AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR THOUGHTFUL COMMENTS AND YOUR STAFF, IT HAS TO BE VERY HARD WORK SO LET ME TELL YOU, I WILL SHORTEN THIS BECAUSE I BELIEVE AND YOU WILL FORGIVE ME, I'M A LITTLE NERVOUS.

I HAVE LIVED -- I'VE OWNED THIS PROPERTY SINCE THE EARLY 90S AND THAT HAS BEEN OVER 30 YEARS SO WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO BE ABLE TO DO IS AS RICK POINTED OUT, THIS IS A 5-ACRE PLOT BREAKING UP INTO 1 ACRE -- 1.2 ACRES. WE DON'T KNOW YET WHAT HE'S GOING TO BUILD THERE, WILL IT BE RAW LAND? WILL HE SELL? IS IT GOING TO BE A RETIREMENT HOME OR REHAB? WE JUST DO NOT KNOW.

WE DO NOT HAVE ENOUGH INFORMATION.

EVIDENTLY HE WILL COLLECT RAINWATER AND THAT IS GREAT BUT WE DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE SEPTIC OR ANYTHING ALONG THOSE LINES.

ADDITIONALLY I BELIEVE AS FAR AS THE PROPERTY LINES AND THE EASEMENT, HE'S NOT ALLOWED TO PUT AN EASEMENT BETWEEN HIS PROPERTY AND MY PROPERTY. WITHOUT MY PERMISSION.

THAT WAS A BIG CONCERN THAT I HAD AS FAR AS POWER.

ADDITIONALLY, GOING OVER SOME OF THE POSSIBILITIES OF HOW THIS PROPERTY WILL BE USED, ONE THING THAT THE WIMBERLEY VALLEY IS CONSIDERED A DARK SKY COMMUNITY AND WE ARE VERY CLOSE TO THAT.

WE ARE ALSO CONSIDERED DARK SKY UNOFFICIALLY A DARK SKY COMMUNITY. SO I DON'T KNOW IF HE'S ADDRESSED THE LIGHTING. I KNOW THAT STARGAZERS AND OTHER PEOPLE REALLY ENJOY THAT ABOUT HAYS COUNTY AND PARTICULAR WIMBERLEY AND DRIFTWOOD TO BE ABLE TO GO OUT AT NIGHT AND SEE THE COMETS AND I HAVE ACTUALLY WATCHED SEVERAL AND SEE SATELLITES GOING OVERHEAD SO THIS IS ANOTHER BIG CONCERN BUT AS FAR AS WELLS, I BELIEVE THAT HAS BEEN TAKEN CARE OF.

BUT WE DO HAVE SERIOUS CONCERNS. WHEN I ORIGINALLY PURCHASED THIS THIS NEIGHBORHOOD WAS NOT TO HAVE ANY COMMERCIAL PROPERTY AND THESE WOULD BE RELATIVELY LARGE ACRE TRACTS, 5 ACRES OR SO AND THAT ALLOWED ADDITIONAL PRIVACY THAT WOULD ALSO PREVENT US FROM SEEING EVERYTHING THAT EVERYBODY HAS.

THANK YOU. DID I GO OVER?

>> YOU DID GREAT. YOU HAVE 12 SECONDS LEFT BUT THANK YOU AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMPLIMENTS.

IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS AGENDA ITEM? I SEE NO MOVEMENT.

I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. AS IS CUSTOMARY, I NOW ASK STAFF TO COME UP AND GIVE US THE BACKGROUND.

>> GOOD MORNING JUDGE BECERRA AND COMMISSIONERS, I AM THE HAYS COUNTY DEVELOPMENT PLANNER. THIS PROJECT IS CURRENTLY UNDER ADMINISTRATIVE COMPLETENESS REVIEW, RIGHT NOW IT IS PENDING THE RECEIPT OF A WATER SERVICE PLAN, THAT IS THE ONLY ITEM NEEDED BEFORE THE PROJECT MAY PROCEED INTO TECHNICAL REVIEW UNDER STATE STATUTE SO AT THIS TIME NO TECHNICAL REVIEW HAS

BEEN CONDUCTED. >> OKAY.

>> STARTING WITH YOU COMMISSIONER.

>> PERFECT. I LOVE THE FACT THAT WE HAVE TO DO THESE PUBLIC HEARINGS BECAUSE IT GIVES US A CHANCE TO CONNECT WITH THE NEIGHBORS AND TO ASK QUESTIONS AND DISCUSS THIS WITH YOU ALL, HAS THERE BEEN ANY INDICATION? I'VE HEARD A COUPLE COMMERCIAL ISSUES.

IS THERE ANY INDICATION THAT THIS WILL HAVE ANY TYPE OF -- RAINWATER IN THE STATE OF TEXAS IS NOT A PUBLIC WATER SUPPLY.

YOU CAN'T USE RAINWATER, THAT'S NOT APPROVED.

I DON'T THINK THAT THAT COULD BE A POSSIBILITY BUT HAVE YOU HEARD DIFFERENT? WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE?

>> AS FAR AS WE ARE AWARE WE ARE NOT AWARE OF THE TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT PROPOSED FOR THESE PROPERTIES, WE ARE ASSUMING SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL USE. I WOULD LIKE TO ADD WITH THE RAINWATER COLLECTION LOT SIZE REQUIREMENT UNDER THE

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HAYS COUNTY MINIMUM LOT SIZE FOR SITES SERVED BY ON SITE SEWAGE FACILITIES THIS AREA IS ALSO IN THE EDWARDS CONTRIBUTING ZONE SO OUR LOT SIZE REQUIREMENT AT MINIMUM IS 1 ACRE WITH RAINWATER COLLECTION AND ADVANCED ONSITE SEWAGE FACILITIES TO SERVE EACH

LOT AS PROPOSED. >> OKAY.

THEY WOULD HAVE TO HAVE AN ADVANCED.

>> BASED ON THE THINGS YOU'VE LEANED IN SO FAR AND LEARNED IS THE LIKELIHOOD WOULD BE ESPECIALLY BECAUSE COMMISSIONER HAMER JUST POINTED OUT THAT RAINWATER DOES NOT QUALIFY FOR COMMERCIAL USE THEN THE GENERALIZATION CAN BE AT THIS SAFE ASSUMPTION POINT OF RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT.

>> AS A SAFE ASSUMPTION WE ASSUME, YES.

>> FOR THOSE HERE IN ATTENDANCE, WHAT OTHER PIECES OF INFORMTION CAN YOU CONTRIBUTE IN QUESTIONS OR CONVERSATION BEFORE WE GO TO

THE NEXT ONE? >> I KNOW THAT SOMEONE MENTIONED FROM AN EMERGENCY VEHICLE ACCESSIBILITY STANDPOINT THAT THERE ARE MAJOR ROADS THAT MEET ON EACH OF THESE LOTS.

>> CORRECT. I SEE THREE LOTS ACCESS ONE ROAD AND TWO LOTS ACCESS THE OTHER ROAD.

>> FROM AN EMERGENCY PERSPECTIVE, THEY SHOULD BE ABLE

TO BE TAKEN CARE OF THERE? >> CORRECT.

>> TRYING TO THANK. [INAUDIBLE]

>> CAN WE PUT A NOTE THAT SAYS THIS IS RESIDENTIAL ONLY?

>> AT THIS TIME I DON'T FEEL COMFORTABLE ANSWERING THAT OR CONFIRMING THAT. AGAIN, SINCE WE ARE IN ADMINISTRATIVE REVIEW TO HAVE A COMPLETE APPLICATION WE WILL HAVE O GO THROUGH A TECHNICAL REVIEW AGAINST THE REGULATIONS

AS THEY STAND AND GO FROM THERE. >> BEFORE WE RATIFY FOR APPROVAL FOR ADMINISTRATIVE REVIEW CAN WE TALK ABOUT IT THEN?

>> IN THE FUTURE. TODAY THERE WILL BE NO ACTION.

>> THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING. >> YES.

I WILL MAKE NOTE OF THAT. >> COMMISSIONERS ANY OTHER

QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? >> I WAS JUST MAKING SURE THERE IS NO ACTION TODAY AND AS WE MOVE FORWARD WE WILL HAVE MORE INFORMATION OF WHAT WE BELIEVE MAY BE EVEN A STRONGER BELIEF WHAT THE DEVELOPMENT WILL LOOK LIKE.

>> THAT IS CORRECT, COMMISSIONER.

>> DID YOU HAVE AN EMAIL OR A LETTER GO OUT TO THE NEIGHBORS?

>> YES. >> GOOD.

WITH PLENTY OF HEADS UP PLEASE CONTINUE THAT EVERY TIME THIS IS COMING TO COURT. I DON'T WANT THEM TO FEEL SURPRISED SIDESWIPED OR IGNORED AND EVERY TIME A CONVERSATION WILL COME HERE I WANT THEM TO KNOW ABOUT IT, PLEASE.

>> TO ELABORATE ON THAT, IF I MAY, ON THE RECEIPT OF AN APPLICATION TO SUBDIVIDE, A NOTICE IS SENT OUT TO CONTIGUOUS PROPERTY OWNERS AS WELL AS POLITICAL SUBDIVISIONS, YOUR INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICT, INDEPENDENCY SERVICE DISTRICT, CONSERVATION DISTRICT. FOR PUBLIC HEARINGS, THE SAME IS SENT OUT, WE SEND IT FIRST CLASS MAIL AS WELL AS CERTIFIED MAIL AND WE POST IN THE NEWSPAPER OF GENERAL CIRCULATION TO THAT

AREA. >> PERFECT.

I REALLY LOVE THE IDEA OF MAKING SURE EVERYONE KNOWS AND I KNOW WE ASKED PACHECO A LONG TIME AGO TO DO SUCH A THING CONSISTENTLY SO I'M GRATEFUL THAT THAT'S IN PLACE.

>> I JUST WANTED TO SAY, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR COMING OUT HERE AND SPENDING A COUPLE HOURS WITH US.

IS THERE ANY OTHER QUESTION FROM SOMEONE HERE REGARDING THIS ISSUE TO -- THAT WE CAN ANSWER OR LOOK INTO? ANY QUESTIONS AT ALL? NO?

>> SORRY, COMMISSIONER. SHE STARTED ASKING YOU GUYS THINGS BUT SHE REALLY SHOULDN'T YET, THAT IS A GREAT QUESTION BUT LET ME GET TO THAT IN A MINUTE COMMISSIONER SMITH.

>> I WAS GOING TO SAY BECAUSE THE PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED --

>> WE CAN'T ASK ANYONE TO COME UP?

>> WE CAN BUT LET ME FOLLOW THE CADENCE.

>> IT MIGHT BE GOOD TO HAVE YOU COME IN AND MEET WITH YOUR COMMISSIONER, I KNOW SHE WOULD BE MORE THAN WILLING TO DO THAT

SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF HER. >> VERY TRUE.

>> SHE HAS DONE THIS AND WOULD BE MORE THAN WILLING TO SIT DOWN AND SPEAK TO ALL THE NEIGHBORS ABOUT THE CONCERNS THAT YOU HAVE

AND REVIEW THE PLAN. >> 100%.

>> ANYTHING ELSE TO CONTRIBUTE? COMMISSIONERS? AND I WILL SAY, NOW AFTER THE COMMISSIONERS ARE DONE I HAVE A LITTLE CADENCE, IF THERE ARE SOME LAST PARTING IDEAS OR QUESTIONS THAT YOU WANT TO BRING UP TO THE PODIUM, YOU CAN SAY SOMETHING AND WE CAN CALL YOU UP AND YOU CAN SAY SOMETHING.

>> JUDGE, YOU CAN ABSOLUTELY REOPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.

>> YOU BET, THANK YOU SO MUCH. I THINK THIS WILL JUST BE A TIDBIT OF INFORMATION YOU WANT TO SHARE.

IF YOU WILL STATE YOUR NAME FOR >> I HAVE LIVED IN ROLLING OAKS FOR OVER 20 YEARS. AND WE HAVE SEEN GROWTH IN OUR LITTLE DEVELOPMENT BUT AS FAR AS FIRES, WE'VE HAD A LOT OF FIRES

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AND THERE'S A LOT OF CEDARS IN THERE.

IF ANYTHING EVER CATCHES FIRE, IT WILL BLOW EVERYTHING UP.

IN THAT LITTLE SUBDIVISION AND I JUST WANT TO SAY THIS, WE HAVE A HARD TIME GETTING IN AND OUT OF THAT SUBDIVISION, THERE IS ONE WAY IN AND ONE WAY OUT AND THE MORE PEOPLE WE GET IN THERE, THE HARDER IT WILL BE NOT ONLY FOR EMERGENCY VEHICLES TO COME IN BUT FOR US TO GET OUT OF THERE IN CASE OF A FIRE AND I WANT TO SAY THIS IN ADDITION TO THAT, THAT OUR ROADS ARE IN HORRIBLE CONDITION, IT'S ALMOST HAVING TO GO THROUGH AN OBSTACLE COURSE TO GET OUT OF THERE. END I JUST WANT TO LAY THAT ON EVERYBODY AND THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR LETTING ME COME UP.

>> ABSOLUTELY AND THANK YOU SO MUCH.

MOST IMPORTANTLY, WHEN YOU WALK AWAY FROM THIS COURTROOM I WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT WE SEE YOU, WE HEAR YOU AND YOUR OPINION

[K.3. Discussion and possible action to approve a change to Hays County Investment Policy recommended by the Hays County Investment Committee. BECERRA/TENORIO]

MATTERS, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. PLEASE OPEN K3.

THIS WILL BE FOLLOWED BY -- COME ON NOW.

WHERE IS THAT PAGE. K TEN, 13 AND 14 AND WE WILL

OPEN IT AS A BLOCK. >> K3.

DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO APPROVE A CHANGE TO HAYS COUNTY INVESTMENT POLICY RECOMMENDED BY THE HAYS COUNTY

INVESTMENT COMMITTEE. >> GOOD MORNING, JUDGE, COMMISSIONERS, STAFF AND TREASURER.

FOR THE RECORD, THE HAYS COUNTY INVESTMENT COMMITTEE MET AND

HAVE APPROVED -- >> I WILL MAKE SURE I GET A

SECOND. >> I'M SO SORRY.

I'M SO EXCITED. >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND AND NOW TREASURER, LET'S GO WITH IT AGAIN.

>> GOOD MORNING, JUDGE, COMMISSIONERS, THE HAYS COUNTY TREASURER FOR THE RECORD. THE INVESTMENT COMMITTEE MET AND HAVE APPROVED THE FOLLOWING CHANGES TO OUR INVESTMENT POLICY FOR YOUR REVIEW AND POTENTIAL APPROVAL.

OUR INVESTMENT COMMITTEE MEMBERSHIP IS AS FOLLOWS, COUNTY JUDGE, COUNTY TREASURER, COUNTY COMMISSIONER, COUNTY AUDITOR, VALERIE, TEXAS STATE UNIVERSITY DIRECTOR OF INVESTMENTS AND ASSISTANT VICE PRESIDENT AND TREASURER OF THE DIVISION OF FINANCE AND SUPPORT SERVICES, WILLIAM D., PRESIDENT AND CEO OF THE SOUTHWESTERN GRADUATE SCHOOL, FOUNDATION AT SMU COX, FORMERLY SERVED AS CHIEF ACADEMIC OFFICER AND AS PRESIDENTIAL FELLOW, ASSOCIATE DEAN FOR GRADUATE PROGRAMS AND THE DEPARTMENT CHAIR AT TEXAS STATE UNIVERSITY.

HE IS ALSO A LECTURER FOR THE TEXAS ASSOCIATION OF COUNTY INVESTMENT ACADEMY OF WHICH I AM A MEMBER AND A GRADUATE.

THE NEWLY COMMITTEE APPROVED POLICY HAS BEEN SENT TO YOU IN TWO FORMS AND FOR THE PUBLIC, BOTH OF THESE VERSIONS ARE AVAILABLE AT THE AGENDA AS AN ATTACHMENT FOR REVIEW.

ONE IS THE NEWLY REVISED POLICY WHICH IS RECOMMENDED BY ALL OF THE COMMITTEE AND TWO IS THE FORMER POLICY WITH THE REVISED REQUESTS HIGHLIGHTED. I KNOW YOU HAVE A FULL AGENDA, I WOULD LIKE TO ASK -- DO YOU WANT ME TO GO THROUGH THEM INDIVIDUALLY OR JUST ASK QUESTIONS? I THINK JUST ASKING QUESTIONS IS FAST.

>> LET ME START THERE. COMMISSIONERS, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FOR WHAT SHE HAS PRESENTED?

>> THOSE ARE SOME PRETTY -- I. HAVE TO TELL YOU, THOSE ARE SOME PRETTY IMPRESSIVE RESUMES, HOW DID WE APPOINT THOSE PEOPLE?

WHERE DID THEY COME FROM? >> WE ASKED THEM TO SERVE AND

MR. CHELTENHAM -- GO AHEAD. >> MARISOL, HAYS COUNTY OFFICER.

WE'VE ALWAYS HAD THE TREASURER REPRESENTATIVE FROM THE TEXAS STATE UNIVERSITY AND THE PROFESSOR FROM THE TEXAS STATE UNIVERSITY WHO JUST RECENTLY MOVED TO DALLAS BUT THEY HAVE ALWAYS BEEN ON A COMMITTEE AS LONG AS I HAVE BEEN ON IT SINCE

2008. >> AND THEY ARE CONSISTENTLY WILLING TO WORK WITH US AND WE ARE ETERNALLY GRATEFUL FOR THEIR

KNOWLEDGE BASE. >> ANY QUESTIONS?

>> I WOULD JUST SAY, LOOKING AT THE CHANGES IN POLICY, THERE ARE SEVERAL IN HERE THAT I THINK YOU HAVE MOVED TO MORE LONG TERM, ALMOST EVERYTHING WE DID FROM TWO YEARS TO THREE YEARS FROM ONE YEAR TO TWO YEARS, I THINK THAT ANYBODY WHO LOOKS AT THIS WOULD THINK THAT THIS IS A GOOD POLICY CHANGE ON MOST OF THESE ITEMS. I WOULD SAY THAT AS YOU LOOK AT THOSE MAXIMUM -- THE NEXT TIME WE LOOK AT THIS, THOSE MAXIMUM MATURITIES TO THREE YEARS, IF THERE ARE FUNDS THAT WE KNOW ARE NOT GOING TO BE USED OR IN PLACE BECAUSE I KNOW WE HAVE SOME OF THOSE THAT ARE FIVE, TEN, MUCHDE COMMITTEE TO LOOK AT THOSE LONGER TERMS BECAUSE I KNOW THAT WE CAN GET A MUCH BETTER RETURN

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ON THOSE. >> WE FOLLOW EVERYTHING THROUGH THE FIRE AS WELL AS MY MAIN CONCERN WAS OUR LIQUIDITY SO THAT IS WHY WE HAVE STUCK WITH THESE NUMBERS BUT I WILL DEFINITELY BRING THAT UP ON OUR NEXT COMMITTEE MEETING.

I WOULD LIKE TO LET YOU KNOW THAT I HAVE REQUESTED AN RFQ FOR A PUBLIC INVESTOR ADVISOR AS WE HAVE SEEN SOME CHANGES AND FLUCTUATIONS IN THE MARKET. IT'S MY WAY OF TRYING TO GET US SOME MORE INVESTMENT MONEY COMING IN SO THAT WILL BE ON THE

NEXT AGENDA AS WELL. >> BEAUTIFUL.

>> IT'S ON THIS AGENDA, I'M SORRY.

THAT IS COMING UP AS WELL. MY GOAL IS TO LOOK AT OTHER OPPORTUNITIES TO BRING IN MORE MONEY FOR OUR COUNTY.

>> IF THERE IS ANYTHING ELSE, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

>> COMMISSIONER INGALSBE, COMMISSIONER SMITH, COMMISSIONER

[Items K.10., K.13., K.14.]

COHEN, COMMISSIONER HAMER, JUDGE BECERRA.

>> PLEASE OPEN ALTOGETHER K TEN, 13 AND 14.

>> K TEN, DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO AUTHORIZE THE ACCEPTANCE OF THE JUDICIAL COMMISSION ON MENTAL HEALTH, JCMH, COURT LIAISON PILOT PROGRAM GRANT IN THE AMOUNT OF $165,000 FOR THE GRANT. OF SEPTEMBER 1ST, 2026, THROUGH AUGUST 31ST, 2028 AND CREATE ONE GRANT FUNDED BEHAVIORAL HEALTH COURT LIAISON POSITION, GRADE 117, WITHIN THE COUNTY COURT AT LAW EFFECTIVE SEPTEMBER 1ST, 2026, AND AMEND THE BUDGET ACCORDINGLY. K13 DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO AUTHORIZE THE EXECUTION OF AMENDMENTS TO THE ASSISTED OUTPATIENT TREATMENT PROGRAM, AOT, MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING, MOU, WITH ACCESS OF MENTAL HEALTH CARE, PLLC, EFFECTIVE DECEMBER 1ST, 2025, AND PHILIP CAROLINA, AND EXECUTE A TERMINATION NOTICE TO DOCTOR VIKRAM MEHRA.

K14, DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO AUTHORIZE THE EXECUTION OF CONTRACT AMENDMENTS TO THE COUNTY COURT AT LAW MENTAL HEALTH SPECIALTY COURT PROGRAM CONTRACTS WITH ACCESS OF MENTAL HEALTH CARE, PLLC, A BETTER VOTE, LLC NICOLE MUELLER MCMORRIS, LCSW, MOONSTONE COUNSELING, NOVA RECOVERY CENTER, REVIVE RECOVERY, TEXAS HELPS, AND YOUTH ADVOCACY

PROGRAMS, INC. >> SO MOVED.

>> SECONDED STATE YOUR NAME AND TITLE FOR THE PUBLIC.

>> I AM THE JUDGE OF THE MENTAL HEALTH COURT, THE ASSISTANT OUTPATIENT TREATMENT COURT AND COUNTY COURT AT LAW NUMBER 3 AND WE ARE VERY EXCITED ABOUT THE GRANT THAT WE WERE ABLE TO OBTAIN FROM THE JUDICIAL COMMISSION ON MENTAL HEALTH, WE BELIEVE THAT THIS BEHAVIORAL HEALTH COURT LIAISON IS GOING TO PLAY AN IMPORTANT ROLE IN HELPING TO DIVERT INDIVIDUALS FROM OUR CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM WHO HAVE MENTAL HEALTH AND OTHER BEHAVIORAL HEALTH ISSUES. SO WE ARE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THAT AND HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.

>> COMMISSIONER SMITH. >> I APPRECIATE Y'ALL UPDATING THESE AS YOU ALL HAVE IN THE PAST, AS YOU ARE LOOKING AT THESE OVERALL NUMBERS, SOME OF THEM IT LOOKS LIKE THEY ARE DOING AND I'M JUDGING BY THE USAGE, THEY ARE DOING A GOOD JOB, THEY ARE INCREASING BY 10% OR WHATEVER AND I ASSUME WE WILL SEE THAT IN THE BUDGET. THERE'S A NUMBER OF THEM THAT HAVE CUTS OF 40% OR, YOU KNOW, 35 OR 40% CUTS TO THOSE INDIVIDUAL PROGRAMS. DO YOU SEE THOSE FLUCTUATING AS THE NEED DEPENDENT UPON THOSE INDIVIDUAL CASES OR DO YOU SEE AS A GENERAL QUESTION THOSE AS OKAY, HERE IS WHAT THE NEW STANDARD FOR NEXT YEAR WILL BE BECAUSE WE'VE LEARNED THAT WE ARE NOT USING THOSE SPECIFIC TYPES OF SERVICES?

>> YES. WHAT WE DO IS WE KIND OF LOOK AT WHERE THE NEED IS AND WHICH PROGRAMS AND OPPORTUNITIES THAT WE HAVE ARE BEST UTILIZED AND THAT IS WHY WE MOVE MONEY AROUND, WE HAVE BEEN TAKING IN A LOT MORE HIGH NEED INDIVIDUALS LATELY INTO THE COURT AND SO BECAUSE OF THAT WE REALLY NEED TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE INTENSIVE SERVICES FOR THOSE INDIVIDUALS TO GET THEM THE HELP THAT THEY NEED TO KEEP THEM OUT OF OUR CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM AND WITH ASSISTANT OUTPATIENT TREATMENT, SOME OF THOSE CHANGES WERE ACTUALLY BECAUSE OF THE WAY THAT THE MOUS WERE DRAFTED AND THE FACT THAT WE ARE NOW USING ACCESS TO MENTAL HEALTH CARE AND THEY WILL USE THEIR OWN PSYCHIATRIST AND THEY WILL PAY THE PSYCHIATRIST VERSUS THE COUNTY PAYING THE PSYCHIATRIST DIRECTLY WHICH IS A BETTER USE OF THE FUNDS THAT WE HAVE AND I THINK IT WILL ACTUALLY BENEFIT THE COUNTY FINANCIALLY A LOT MORE.

>> WHILE WE HAVE LOOKED AT EACH ONE OF THESE CONTRACTS INDIVIDUALLY AS THEY'VE COME THROUGH AND THEY'VE HAD TO UPDATE AS WE'VE PICKED UP SOME PROVIDERS AND LOST OTHER

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PROVIDERS, I KNOW THAT FOR EXAMPLE ON ITEM 14 THERE IS EIGHT DIFFERENT PROVIDERS THERE AND IF IN THE FUTURE THESE COME FORWARD KNOWING WHAT EACH ONE OF THOSE PROVIDERS ACTUALLY PROVIDES WOULD BE HELPFUL AS WELL.

>> SURE. >> IF THAT MAKES SENSE.

>> ABSOLUTELY. THEY DO PROVIDE DIFFERENT SERVICES SO ABSOLUTELY, I THINK THAT COULD BE HELPFUL.

>> THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER HAMMER, ANYTHING ELSE? COMMISSIONERS ON THIS SIDE?

>> I AM REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THIS ALSO BECAUSE IT PROVIDES OR ENHANCES THAT CONTINUITY OF CARE FOR THOSE INDIVIDUALS AND I LIKE THAT WE ARE PROVIDING NOW MORE SPECIALIZED TREATMENT AND CARE FOR THESE INDIVIDUALS WHICH IS NEEDED A LOT OF TIMES WE DON'T GET THAT SPECIALTY CARE THAT EVEN IN OUR HEALTH DEPARTMENT AND OTHER AREAS THAT INDIVIDUALS NEED AND SO I SUPPORT IT, THANK

YOU. >> COMMISSIONER COHEN.

>> THANK YOU FOR THE DILIGENT CONTRACT MANAGEMENT OF THESE SERVICES AND THANK YOU FOR KEEPING AN EYE ON THAT AND HAVING TO ADJUST WHEN NECESSARY AND YOU HAVE BEEN GREAT ON STAYING ON TOP OF THAT SO FULLY SUPPORT YOUR INITIATIVES.

>> THANK YOU FOR CARING FOR HAYS COUNTY RESIDENTS LIKE THEY'VE NEVER BEEN CARED FOR BEFORE.

PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. >> I HAVE ONE OTHER QUESTION.

THIS IS A CONVERSATION WE'VE HAD IN COURT I THINK TWICE NOW.

ALL OF THE WORK THAT YOU ALL DO IN COORDINATING WITH THESE DIFFERENT VENDORS TO PROVIDE MENTAL HEALTH SERVICES, IT WOULD BE GREAT IF BECAUSE OF OUR WORK WITH OUR BEHAVIORAL ANALYSIS OR PARDON ME OUR BEHAVIORAL INDIVIDUAL IN OUR HEALTH DEPARTMENT, HAVING THEM LOOKING INTO KNOW WHAT THOSE CONTRACTS ARE, I'M NOT SAYING HAVING THEM LOOPED INTO THE NEGOTIATION OR ANYTHING ELSE, I COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND THAT AS A COURT YOU ARE STANDING ALONE AND TRYING TO PROVIDE THOSE SERVICES FOR INDIVIDUALS BUT THERE ARE A NUMBER OF THESE CONTRACTORS AS WELL AS OUR REGIONAL AUTHORITY THAT WORK WITH BOTH Y'ALL AND OUR HEALTH DEPARTMENT AND HAVING THEM INVOLVED IN THAT PROCESS SOMEHOW TO EVEN JUST KNOW THAT IT'S COMING, I SIT ON THE REGIONAL MENTAL HEALTH BOARD AND I KNOW IF THERE IS SOMETHING COMING THROUGH THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT, A CONTRACT WITH THEM OR THERE IS SOMETHING THAT IS PURSUANT TO THAT, I'M AWARE OF IT. I KNOW A COUPLE MONTHS AGO WE HAD -- NOT AN ISSUE BUT WE HAD AN ITEM COME FROM THE COURT SPECIFICALLY WITH THAT REGIONAL AUTHORITY.

I DID NOT KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT IT AND I GOT INTO THAT MEETING AND I HAD TO TRY TO DEFEND WHAT HAYS COUNTY WAS DOING OR TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHAT WAS GOING ON BUT I DID NOT HAVE ANY BACKGROUND ON IT AND HAVING A SOLE SOURCE WHERE I CAN GO OR WHERE US AS A COURT CAN GO AND SAY YES, WE HAVE THREE CONTRACTS, ONE IS IN THE MENTAL HEALTH COURT, TWO ARE DOING OTHER THINGS FOR THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT, I THINK THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL. I WOULD JUST SHARE THAT WITH

YOU. >> OUR COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR'S OFFICE SHOULD BE THE FOCAL POINT ON THAT AND I THINK WE ALREADY HAVE A HANDLE ON THAT BUT THAT'S A GREAT PIECE OF ADVICE TO BE THE FOCAL POINT OF ALL COUNTY BUSINESS.

I DON'T KNOW. WHO KNOWS BUT YOU HEARD HIM LOUD AND CLEAR. THANK YOU.

PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. >> COMMISSIONER SMITH, COMMISSIONER COHEN, COMMISSIONER HAMER, COMMISSIONER INGALSBE,

JUDGE BECERRA. >> GREAT RECOMMENDATION.

>> THANK YOU, ALL. >> PLEASE OPEN G37 AND THEN WE

WILL TAKE A RECESS. >> APPROVE SPECIFICATIONS, INVESTMENT ADVISOR AND AUTHORIZE PURCHASING TO ADVERTISE AND

SOLICIT FOR PROPOSALS. >> GO THROUGH THE PROCESS.

>> PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. >> COMMISSIONER COHEN, COMMISSIONER HAMER, COMMISSIONER INGALSBE, COMMISSIONER SMITH,

JUDGE BECERRA. >> TEN-MINUTE BREAK OR SORRY, 1

CARDENAS. >> OK.

ARE WE READY? WE ARE BACK FROM A SHORT RECESS. LET'S DO THINGS IN THIS ORDER.

BECAUSE I HAVE A LOT OF TEXTS THAT ARE COMING.

WE WILL GO G23, G. 34, K-9 AND K-1 IN THAT ORDER.

[G.23. Approve Out of State Travel for Chief Deputy Roxanne Rodriguez to attend the Property Records Industry Association (PRIA) Annual Conference in Buffalo, New York for an estimated amount of $1,707.33. BECERRA/CARDENAS]

>> G23. >> AS FAST AS WE CAN.

AS FAST AS WE CAN. >> G23, APPROVE OUT OF STATE TRAVEL FOR JEFF DEPUTY RODRIGUEZ CONFERENCE, IN BUFFALO, NEW YORK FOR AMOUNT OF $1700.33.

>> SO MOVED. >> SECOND.

>> PLEASE CALL THE ROLE.

>> G43 AND K-9. >> GOT YOU.

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>> 34, AUTHORIZE PAYMENT TO S.H.I. GOVERNMENTAL SOLUTION IN THE AMOUNT OF $5094 FOR SERVICES NEEDED FOR THE VISTA SOFTWARE, PURCHASE ORDER NOT OBTAINED PURR THE POLICY.

>> SO MOVED. >> SECOND.

>> ALL RIGHT. MS. HUNT? WOULD YOU LIKE TO SHARE BACKGROUND?

>> PURCHASING AGENT. SO THE COURT APPROVED FOR THE COUNTY CLERKS OFFICE TO GET THE VISTA S.G. SOFTWARE TO ALLOW THE PUBLIC TO BE ABLE TO GET DOCUMENTS ON LINE AND BE ABLE TO PRINT THOSE OUT AND PAY DURING THE IMPLEMENTATION PROCESS. THIS IS THE DOLLAR AMOUNT FOR THOSE FOR STHEM TO INVOICE US E HAVE TO ISSUE THEM A P.O.BUT THEY HAVE GIVEN US AN INVOICE SO WE JUST CAN'T APPEAL AN

INVOICE. >> MPLEASE CALL

>> K9, K-1.

[K.9. Discussion and possible action to ratify the submission of a grant application to the St. David's Foundation, Catalyzing Community-Led Change grant in the amount of $277,212.10. BECERRA/BOUTTE/CARDENAS/DOINOFF]

>> K9, POSSIBLE ACTION OF THE SUBJECT OF GRANT APPLICATION.

AMOUNT OF $277,212.10. >> SECONDED.

>> BEAUTIFUL. ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ON

THAT? >> WHAT IS THE PURPOSE OF THE

GRANT? >> WE HAVE SOMEONE READY TO SPEAK ON THAT. IF YOU WILL PLEASE APPROACH THE PODIUM. WE HAVE SEVERAL OPTIONS.

STATE YOUR NAME AND TITLE? >> GOOD AFTERNOON.

I'M THE ASSISTANT COUNTY CLERK. >> I'M THE COUNTY ADMINISTER.

OUR OFFICE HAD REQUESTED A MOBILE VAN AND WHEN WE WERE IN THE BUDGET PROCESS, SCOTT, SO KINDLY SAID WHY DON'T YOU CONSIDER A GRANT, SO WE PUT IN A REQUEST TO THE GRANT OFFICE, OUR OFFICES JOINTLY AND LO AND BEHOLD A GRANT OPPORTUNITY CAME UP. AND WE HAVE BEEN WORKING ON THAT WITH THE GRANT STAFF AND IT IS READY TO GO.

. AND HOPEFULLY WE CAN GET THIS MOBILE VAN TO DO FURTHER OUTREACH FOR ELECTIONS AND THE COUNTY CLERK'S OFFICE, AS WE ARE ALREADY DOING BUT YOU KNOW THAT IS OUR INITIATIVE IS TO GIVE OUT IN THE COMMUNITY MORE

AND MORE AND MORE AND MORE. >> WELL DONE.

WELL SAID. ANYTHING ELSE?

JENNIFER? >> I'M EXCITED ABOUT THE OPPORTUNITIES HOPEFULLY, IF WE RECEIVE THE VAN TO BE ABLE TO GET OUT INTO THE COMMUNITY TO OFFER MORE VOTER REGISTRATION SERVICE, VOTER EDUCATION SERVICES.

WE HAVE BEEN WORKING GREATLY ON OUR OUTREACH EFFORTS AND THIS WAS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO COLLABORATE WITH THE CLERK'S OFFICE ON THIS AND ALSO, CYNTHIA SAID A WHILE AGO, WHICH IS EXCITING, IS THAT THIS KIND OF GUIDING OR THOUGHT PROCESS OUTSIDE OF THE BOX TO BE ABLE TO CONNECT HOW BOTH OF OUR SERVICES WORK TOGETHER AND ALSO WORK TO BENEFIT OVERALL HEALTH IN THE COMMUNITY SO WE ARE VERY EXCITED ABOUT THE OPPORTUNITY

TO EXPLORE MORE OF THIS. >> I LOVE IT.

THANK YOU. >> JUST REALLY BRIEFLY.

CAN YOU JUST DESCRIBE WHAT TYPES OF SERVICES YOU WOULD -- WHAT ARE THE MAIN SERVICES WOULD YOU BE OUT OFFERING IN

THE COMMUNITY WITH THIS VAN? >> ABSOLUTELY.

WE HAVE BEEN DOING A BIT OF IT ALREADY.

LIKE WITH THE COMMUNITY HEALTH FAIR, GOING OUT, BEING ON SITE TO ISSUE BITRTH CERTIFICATES T REGISTER FOR SCHOOL.

WE HAVE RURAL CUSTOMERS THAT CAN'T GET TO OUR SUBSTATIONS, SO WE WOULD BE ABLE TO PROVIDE DOCUMENTS PROPERTY DOCUMENTS, BIRTH, MARRIAGE, ALL OF THE THINGS WE DO IF YOU HAVE TO COME INTO THE OFFICE. WE ARE WORKING WITH THE SCHOOLS DIRECTLY AND WE WOULD BE ABLE TO GO TO THEIR LOCATIONS AND PROVIDE THE SERVICES THERE AS WELL.

>> THANK YOU. >> SO I DO HAVE ONE QUESTION.

YOU MENTION THE, SUBSTATIONS. I KNOW WE TALKED ABOUT FULLY STAFFING THE SUBSTATIONS EVERY DAY OF THE WEEK.

WHERE ARE WE AT ON THAT? BECAUSE WE BRING THIS UP EVERY YEAR. IT WILL COME UP WITH BUDGET.

BUT JUST A QUESTION. >> ABSOLUTELY.

AND I KNOW WHY THE QUESTION COMES FROM PRECINCT FOUR.

THAT IS THE HARDEST OFFICE FOR US TO STAFF.

SO WE KEEP TRYING TO SHIFT AND ADVERTISE THE JOB FOR PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN DRIPPINGS SPRINGS. AND THAT IS WHERE WE ARE AT

[02:45:01]

RIGHT NOW. SO WE -- WHEN WE GET A NEW CLERK, THEY HAVE TO TRAIN WITH US IN SAN MARCOS AND IT TAKES ABOUT SIX MOSNTHS TO HAVE A STAFF MEMBER FULLY TRAINED ON THEIR OWN ON DRIPPING SPRINGS. THAT IS WHAT WE ARE CAUGHT IN RIGHT NOW. WE HAD SOMEONE OUT THERE.

THEY LEFT. WE HAVE BEEN TRAINING SOMEONE ELSE. WE GOT THEM OUT THERE.

THERE IS A SHIFT THERE AGAIN. AND SO WE MODIFIED THE HOURS TO BE OPEN THREE DAYS A WEEK AND ROXANNE, HOW CLOSE ARE WE TO

BEING OPEN AGAIN? >> I WOULD SAY WE COULD HAVE -- LIKE YOU MENTIONED WE DO HAVE SOMEONE ON STAFF OUT THERE THREE DAYS A WEEK FOR THOSE TWO ADDITIONAL DAYS.

I WOULD SAY ANYWHERE BETWEEN THREE TO SIX MONTHS LIKE YOU

MENTIONED. >> OK.

BUT THE INTENT JUST KNOW THIS IS THAT WE HAVE THAT OFFICE FULLY STAFFED AND WE ARE LOOKING FOR A COMMIT FROM NEW EMPLOYEES, THAT IF WE HIRE YOU FOR THAT LOCATION, THAT YOU COMMIT TO STAY THERE. AND STAY WITH OUR OFFICE.

>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? PLEASE CALL THE ROLE.

[K.1. Discussion and possible action to adopt Personnel Policy 1A103A, Attorney Hiring Classification Flexibility, effective July 28, 2026. HAMMER/HIGGINS/GRANJENO]

>> K-1, PLEASE. >> KDISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO ADOPT PERSONAL POLICY S5-103 A ATTORNEY HIRING CLASSIFICATION FLEXIBILITY EFFECTIVE JULY 28, 2026.

>> SECOND. >> MOTION AND SECOND.

PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND TITLE SIR.

>> REGULAR /* -- GREG COX FROM THE ATTORNEY ASSISTANTS OFFICE.

WE HAD AN INFORMAL POLICY WHEN WE HAD ATTORNEY VACANCIES WE WERE ABLE TO FILL ANY LEVEL WE COULD AFFORD AS LONG AS IT WAS BELOW THE LEVEL 7, WHICH IS RESERVED FOR SUPERVISORS.

THAT WAS NEVER A WRITTEN POLICY AND WE HAD CONFUSION ABOUT THE MATTERS AND WE HUDDLED UP AND CAME UP WITH THIS DRAFT POLICY THAT PUTS IN TO WRITING WHAT THE INFORMAL POLICY HAD BEEN AND I AM HERE TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT AND ASK YOU ALL TO

ADOPT IT. >> CAN YOU SUMMARIZE FOR THE

VIEWING PUBLIC? >> SO WHEN WE ARE HIRING A LAWYER WE ARE HIRING AND ATTORNEY.

THE ATTORNEY CAREER LADDER IS ATTORNEY ONE THREE ATTORNEY SIX IS BASED UPON THE NUMBER OF YEARS EXPERIENCE THAT THE PERSON HAS. AND THE TYPE OF COMPETENCE THEY HAVE AND WHEN WE LOSE SOMEONE, WE OFTEN WILL UNDER FILL A POSITION, SO HIRE AN ATTORNEY ONE, STRAIGHT OUT OF LAW SCHOOL, BECAUSE WE HAVE A NEED IN A THIRD CHAIR ROLE AND MISDEMEAN NOR COURT. IF THE PERSON DOESN'T STAY WITH THE OFFICE AND LEAVE, I NEED TO BE ABLE TO HIRE WHATEVER THE NEED IS AT THAT POINT AND THE PROBLEM WE RAN INTO WAS IF AN ATTORNEY ONE LEFT, THE ADMINISTRATIVE DEPARTMENT WERE THINKING WELL I CAN ONLY HIRE AND ATTORNEY ONE NOW.

I DON'T HAVE A NEED FOR AN ATTORNEY ONE ANYMORE.

BECAUSE THOSE NEEDS HAVE BEEN FILLED.

THIS GIVES US THE FLEXIBILITY TO HIRE AT TWO, THREE, FOUR LEVEL AND WE ARE VERY CAREFUL STEWARDS OF THE PUBLIC FUNDS.

SO WE ARE ALWAYS LOOKING TO FILL POSITIONS AT THE LOWEST COST POSSIBLE, WHILE MAKING SURE WE HIRE PEOPLE WITH THE ADEQUATE EXPERIENCE TO HANDLE CASES IN COURT.

>> FOR ALMOST A DECADE, BECAUSE I AM A LOVE BUNDLER VERSE AS SPLINTER, I BELIEVE DEPARTMENT HEADS SHOULD HAVE THAT AUTONOMY AND SOMETIMES I FEEL THAT WE AS A COURT MICRO MANAGE YOUR DAY-TO-DAY OPERATIONS BEYOND WHAT I FEEL IS PRODUCTIVE AND USEFUL. AND I SAY THE VIEWING -- NO THE COMMUNITY HAS VOTED. THEY VOTED FOR SUCH AND SUCH TOW BE THE PERSON RUNNING THAT DEPARTMENT AND ONCE WE APPROVE YOUR BUDGET, YOU SHOULD HAVE THAT AUTONOMY AND FREEDOM TO RUN YOUR DEPARTMENT AND SO IN SPIRIT I AM IN FULL SUPPORT OF THIS. AUTONOMY IS WHAT WE NEED MORE OF. COMMISSIONER INGAL BY?

>> SUPPORT. REQUEST COMMISSIONER COHENEN?

>> FINE. >> COMMISSIONER HAMMER?

>> IT GREAT TO EMPOWER THE DEPARTMENT AND SAVE THE COUNTY

MONEY FOR BEING SMART. >> RIGHT ON.

COMMISSION SMITH? >> I THINK A GOOD POLICY.

GOING THROUGH THE WRITTEN POLICY, I THINK YOU HIT ALL THE POINTS THAT I HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT SPECIFICALLY ON THE BUDGET PROCESS AND THE PACKET THAT HAS TO GO TO H.R.

THINH.R. I THINK IT IS PERFECT.

W DISTRICT ATTORNEY HIGGINS GOT INTO OFFICE, HE WAS ASKING FOR SALARY VARIANCE AT THAT POINT.

I TOLD HIM I WAS SHOCKED HE WAS ABLE TO GET THE COMPETENT STAFF

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YOU HAVE AND I HAVE FULL CONFIDENCE YOU CAN DO IT.

>> THANK YOU. >> ALL RIGHT THANK YOU, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

NOW, CANDACE, HAVE YOU RECEIVED A TEXT.

OTHERWISE I WILL OPEN THE SLATE.

PLEASE OPEN THE REST. I MOVE THAT WE OPEN REMAINDER

OF CONSENT AGENDA I A TELLS. >> SECOND.

-- ITEMS. >> SECOND.

>> ARE THERE ANY ITEMS THAT NEED TO BE PULLED FORWARD FOR

MORE DISCUSSION? >> THE QUOTE, WE HAD TO SEND TO THE PURCHASING COOPERATIVE TO REVIEW THOSE FOR COMPLIANCE IN BOTH OF THOSE DID COME BACK BUT THERE WAS A NOTE THAT WE WERE REVIEWING THAT SO WE MAY HAVE TO PULL THEM.

I WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW THEY WERE GOOD.

>> OK. GOOD.

ANYTHING ELSE COMMISSIONERS? PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

>> CONTINUE THROUGH ROADS. LET'S OPEN I-1.

[Items I.1. & I.2.]

>> HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING WITH POSSIBLE ACTION TO CHANGE THE YIELD SIGN TO STOP SIGN AT CREEK ROAD AT MOUNT GAYNOR.

>> LET'S -- CAN I OPEN TWO PUBLIC HEARINGS AT THE SAME

TIME? >> SURE.

>> I-2 AS WELL. >> I-2, HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING WITH POSSIBLE ACTION TO CHANGE THE YIELD SIGN TO STOP SIGN.

AT THE INTERSECTION OF THE ROAD AT THE WAY SIDE DRIVE.

>> I AND OPENING BOTH, I-1 AND I-2 FOR A PUBLIC HEARING.

ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST EITHER ONE OF THESE PLEASE APPROACH THE PODIUM. I SEE NO MOVEMENT.

I CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. MOVE ON THEN.

[items I.3. & I.4.]

NOTHING ELSE TO CONTRIBUTING ANYONE.

SO LET'S OPEN THREE AND FOUR. >> DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO CALL FOR PUBLIC HEARING ON AUGUST 11, 2016 TO ESTABLISHING A NO PARKING ZONELE WITH BELL TERRACE SUBDIVISION AND I-4, POSSIBLE ACTION TO CALL FOR PUBLIC HEARING TO ESTABLISH A NO PARKING ZONE ALONG SCIENCE HALL

LOOP. >> PLEASE CALL THE ROLE ON

THREE AND FOUR. >> COMMISSIONER SMITH?

>> I DON'T WANT TO GO TOO FAST. I-3 AND I-4, MOTION AND SECOND?

JUST TO MAKE SURE? >> I WILL MOTION.

>> WILL SECOND. >> ONE AND TWO WE HAVE TO VOTE.

>> IT WAS JUST A PUBLIC HEARING WITH POSSIBLE ACTION.

DO YOU HAVE A VOTE YOU WANT TO MAKE ON THAT?

>> YES. SORRY.

SORRY. I AM MOVING.

. PLEASE OPEN I-1 AND 2 AGAIN.

>> HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING WITH POSSIBLE ACTION TO CHANGE THE YIELD SIGN TO STOP SIGN AT CREEK ROAD AND MOUNT GAY NOR *-

-- MOUNT GAINER. >> MOVE FOR BOAST ACTION.

>> SECOND. >> WHAT IS YOUR MOTION, SIR?

>> MOVE TO PLACE A STOP SIGNS AT OF CREEK ROAD AND MOUNT

GAINER AND PLEASE A YIELD SIGN. >> PLEA ERP-- PLEASE CALL THE VOTE. WANT YOU TO KNOW MY AUNT JUST

DIED. >> SORRY.

>> THAT'S -- WAS ME -- CALL THE ROLE.

>> COMMISSIONER?

[I.5. Discussion and possible action to authorize the execution of a Contract for Engineering Services (2026-PSA- 87) between Hays County and Bowman Consulting, Group, Ltd. to provide engineering services for the Cotton Gin Road (CR 129) project in Precinct 1. INGALSBE/A.JONES]

>> YES. I-5.

DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION AUTHORIZED EXECUTION OF A CONTRACT FOR ENGINEERING SERVICES 2026, BETWEEN HAYES COUNTY AND BOUWMAN CONSULTING SERVICES.

COUNTY ROAD 129 PROJECT IN PRESYNCS ONE.

>> BOUWMAN WAS SELECTED IN JUNE SO THIS IS THE NEGOTIATED

CONTRACT. >> PLEASE CALL THE ROLE.

[I.6. Discussion and possible action to authorize the execution of a Contract for Engineering Services (2026-PSA-50) between Hays County and Right of Way of Texas, LLC to provide Right of Way acquisition services for the Goforth Road project in Precinct 1. INGALSBE/A.JONES]

>> DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO AUTHORIZE THE

[02:55:02]

EXECUTION OF A CONTRACTED FOR ENGINEERING SERVICE, BETWEEN HAYES COUNTY AND BOW PAN COUNTY, TO PROVIDE RIGHT OF WAY ACCESS SERVICES FOR THE GO FORT ROAD PROJECT IN PRECINCT ONE.

>> PLEASE CALL THE ROLE. >> COMMISSIONER HAMMER?

>> YES.

[I.7. Discussion and possible action to authorize the execution of a Contract for Engineering Services (2026-PSA- 56) between Hays County and Pape-Dawson Consulting Engineers, LLC to provide Utility Coordination services for the Yarrington Road Segment 1 in Precinct 3. HAMMER/A.JONES]

>> THANK YOU. I-7.

>> DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO AUTHORIZE THE EXECUTION OF A CONTRACT FOR ENGINEERING SERVICES 2026, PSA-26, BETWEEN HAYES COUNTY AND PAPE-DAWSON CUMMING ENGINEERING L.L.C. TO PROVIDE UTILITY COORDINATION SERVICES FOR THE JARRING ON TO ROAD SELLINGMENT 1 AND PRECINCT 3.

>> SECOND. >> ANYTHING ELSE? PLEASE CALL TROLL.

[Items J.1. & J.3. ]

>> JUDGE? >> YES.

J1 AND J3. >> P.L.N.-28 THE 9 H.P.C., HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING ON JULY 28, 2026 REGARDING THE BRIDLEWOOD RANCHES SECTION 2, LOT 17 H REPLATT AND J3, P.L.N.-2980-P.C., HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING ON JULY 28, 2026, REGARDING THE DOUGLAS ESTATES REPLATT OF LOT D-1273

>> OPENING THE AGENDA ITEM. BOTH IF THERE IS ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK IN OR AGAINST. I SEE IN MOVEMENT.

WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. >> ANYTHING TO CONTRIBUTE?

>> NO. I HAVE NOTHING TO CONTRIBUTE AT THIS TIME. THIS WAS JUST TO HOLD A PUBLIC

[K.2. Discussion and possible action to regrade the vacant Civil Engineer position, grade 130, within the Development Services Department to an Environmental Development Manager, grade 127, effective July 28, 2026. HAMMER/BERLAD]

HEARING. >> THANK YOU SIR.

>> K-2. >> DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO REGRADE THE VACANT CIVIL ENGINEER POSITION, GRADE SERVICES DEPARTMENT TO THE ENVIRONMENTAL DEVELOPMENT MANAGER GRADE 127 EFFECTIVE JULY 28, 2026.

>> SO MOVED. >> SECONDED.

>> ALL RIGHT. WHAT SAY YOU, SIR.

>> GOOD AFTERNOON. INTERIM DIRECTOR FOR DEVELOPMENT SERVICES WE ARE TAKING A VACANT CIVIL ENGINEER POSITION VACANT FOR THE LAST THREE, FOUR YEARS AND REGRADE AND RECLASSIFY TO ENVIRONMENTAL DEVELOPMENT MANAGER.

WITH THE FOCUS THAT THIS INDIVIDUAL WILL HAVE A KEEN RELATIONSHIP WITH ALL OF THE STAKEHOLDER AROUND WATER.

WAS THE ONE WATER PRINCIPLES THAT THE RESOLUTION AT THE COURT PASSED HERE. THE INDUSTRIAL SIGNIFICANT WATER USE RESOLUTION THAT WAS PASSED, THIS IS VERY BIG FOCUS FOR THE COURT AROUND SOMETHING WE TWEN WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE ARE FOCUSSING ON AND WORK WITH PARK AND NATURAL RESOURCE DEPARTMENT TO ENSURE HAVE A GOOD

COORDINATED EFFORT. >> DO U YOU HAVE A CANDIDATE I

MIND? >> NOT AT THIS TIME.

>> WHO WILL BE INTERVIEWING. >> MYSELF, CHIEF ENVIRONMENTAL AND CARL FROM PARKING DEPARTMENT.

>> BEAUTIFUL. COMMISSIONER?

>> YEAH. SO WE ACTUALLY MICHAEL AND I WERE ATTENDING AN ALLIANCE INSTITUTE FOR LEADERSHIP MEETING AND THE CITY WAS GOING OVER THEIR CONSERVATION DEVELOPMENT MANAGER AND HOW HE I THINK IS CONSERVATION

DEVELOPMENT MANAGER? >> YES.

>> EVERYONE THIS SAVE THE U -- SAVING THE COUNTY THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS AND OTHER THINGS AND WE LOO AT EACH OTHER AND LET'S GET THIS TOGETHER AS A COURT WE SUPPORTED INTENTIONAL DEVELOPMENT AND BEING INTENTIONAL WITH CONSERVATION AND PRESERVATION WHEN IT COMES TO DEVELOPMENT. THIS PERSON WILL BE A HANDS ON APPROACH TO DOING THAT. SO WE WERE ALL IN FOR THAT.

AND I KNOW THAT WITH THAT AS WELL, IT WILL HELP US AND HOPEFULLY WE CAN GET A CONSERVATION DEVELOPMENT IN THIS HAYES COUNTY WHERE WE ARE MAKING A MODEL AND SET

PRECEDENT. >> I LOVE IT.

ANYTHING ELSE TO CONTRIBUTE? >> WONDERFUL.

>> THIS IS GREAT. >> JUST SAY MY TOP PRIORITY WE ARE UNDER GOING HAS BEEN THE CONSERVATION DEVELOPMENT TITLE.

HAVING SOMEONE IN YOUR OFFICE TO COORDINATE NOT ONLY THAT BUT THE WATERSHED STUDIES WE HAVE DONE, THE INDIVIDUAL, WORK THAT IS GOING ON BOTH WHEN WE ARE LOOKING AT OUR NEW FLOOD PLAINS AND THOSE THINGS RELATED TO WHERE THE CONSERVATION DEVELOPMENTS ARE, BETWEEN THE TWO OF US WE HAVE MORE CONSERVATION SET ASIDE PROPERTY, IN OUR PORTION OF THE COUNTY, THAN PROBABLY THE THREE SURROUNDING COUNTIES COMBINED.

SO I REALLY APPRECIATE THIS AND APPRECIATE THE INITIATIVE.

>> THERE YOU GO. PLEASE CALL THE ROLE.

[K.4. Discussion and possible action to authorize submitting a termination notice to Munission, LLC, related to the Hays County Website. BECERRA/McGILL/ULIBARRI/HUNT]

>> PLEASE OPEN KFOR. Ô> -- PLEASE OPEN KFOR.

[03:00:12]

>> SO MOVED. >> SECOND.

>> WE ARE DOING A BETTER JOB NOW AND THAT ISRESULT /* THAT

[K.5. Discussion and possible action to authorize the Deputy County Administrator to conduct outreach to other Texas counties regarding a potential regional pretrial services grant opportunity and gauge interest in future collaboration, with any formal agreement being brought back for Commissioners Court approval. COHEN/BOUTTE]

RESULT. PLEASE CALL THE ROLE.

>> K-5, DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO AUTHORIZE THE ADMINISTER -- REGARDING PRETRIAL SERVICES GRANT OPPORTUNITY, AND ENGAGE INTEREST IN FUTURE COLLABORATION WITH ANY FORMAL AGREEMENT BEING BROUGHT BACK FOR COMMISSIONER COURT APPROVAL.

>> SO MOVED. >> SECOND.

>> REALLY DO LOVE AND SUPPORT TUCKER BUT HAVE A HARD TIME UNDERSTANDING WHY WE WOULD DO THIS.

HAVING A BRAND-NEW DOCUMENT AND NEEDING ALL HANDS ON DECK AND HAVING SOMEONE OF HIS CALIBER ROAMING AROUND THE STATE WHILE WE HAVE AN ENTIRE GRANTS DEPARTMENT.

PLEASE WALK ME TO YOUR CONCLUSIONS.

>> DEPUTY COUNTY ADMINISTER. THANK YOU FOR ASKING.

THEN IS JUST TO BE IN SUMMARY A PRO ACTIVE MEASURE.

IT IS GOING TO HELP US FOR GRANT OPPORTUNITY THROUGH THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE. YOU WILL RECALL THAT IT WAS ON THE AGENDA IN JUNE. HOWEVER IT WAS PULLED AS AN ITEM. WHAT WE ARE SEEKING TO DO IS THAT TIME WE HAVE A SHORTENED NOTICE OF GRAN OPPORTUNITY OUT OF THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE THROUGHOUT THE $4 MILLION.

BUT THIS IS OPPORTUNITY FOR HAYES COUNTY TO TAKE A LEAD ON THIS GRANT AND SEEK OTHER COUNTIES ASSISTANCE AND HELP IN COMING BACK AND DOING THAT. ANY FORMAL AGREEMNT OR ANYTHING TO THAT EFFECT WHICH I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT WILL LOOK LIKE WILL COME BACK FOR APPROVAL.

>> TOTALLY UNDERSTAND AND AGREE.

BACK BACK BACK. 4 MILLION IS A LOT OF MONEY.

TALK ABOUT WHAT YOU MEAN BY THAT.

ND YOU WILL FIND A WAY TO WEAVE HAYS COUNTY INTO IT.

>> IT HAS NOT BEEN AWARDED. THIS HAS NOT BEEN SET OUT.

THIS IS AN EXTREMELY PROACTIVE AME MEASURE. IT IS A VERY STRONG LIKELIHOOD THIS GRANT WILL BE REINTRODUCED IN AUGUST OR SEPTEMBER.

THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR ME TO SPEAK TORE O COUNTIES AND SAY, HEY WE THINK THIS GRANT OPPORTUNITY WILL BECOME AVAILABLE. TALK ABOUT IT AND BE READY WHEN EVER IT DOES SO WE CAN ALL APPLY FOR IT.

>> WHAT WILL THAT GRANT BE FOR? SOUNDS LIKE YOU ARE HUNTING FOR THIS SPECIFIC FOCUS. EXPLAIN IT MORE.

>> SENATE BILL SIX AND NINE, PRETRIAL REPORTING REQUIREMENT THAT DIFFERENT AGENCY WITHIN OUR COUNTY HAVE.

AND AS EARLIER, JASON CAME UP IN HERE.

I MEAN ALBERTS HERE. APOLOGIZE ON BEHALF OF THE PRETRIAL SERVICES DIVISION CAME TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT.

AND THAT IS WHAT IN GRANT AWARD IS FOR.

FOR COUNTIES THAT TAKE A LOOK OVER A THREE YEAR PERIOD OF WHAT WE ARE DOING, NUMBERS WISE AND DATA DRIVEN TO REPORT BACK AND THIS IS WHAT WE ARE DOING TO PREVENT ERECIDIVISM AND

THINGS LIKE THAT. >> RIGHT ON.

HAT IS WONDERFUL. HONESTLY.

IT IS WHAT STARTED THIS WHOLE THING.

COMMISSIONER SMITH? IS THAT THE ONLY ONE WITH QUESTIONS? OVER HERE?

>> THANK YOU. >> TUCKER I DID WANTS TO ASK ONE QUESTION. THE $4 MILLION AVAILABLE, AND I KNOW THAT WE ARE REACHING OUT TO DIFFERENT COUNTIES SO THEY CAN APPLY ALSO, BUT IT WILL ONLY GO TO ONE COUNTY BUT WE ARE GIVING OTHERS THE OPPORTUNITY OR SHARED?

>> NO, IT IS -- IT WILL GO TO HELPING OUT THE OTHER COUNTIES ALSO. WITH SO WE WON'T NEED THAT $4 MILLION. IT WILL BE LESS FOR HAYS COUNTY BUT WHEN WE FORMULATE THAT IN THE WHICH I WILL REPORT BACK, IT WILL GO TO HELPING OTHER COUNTIES.

AND COSTS THEY HAVE. >> I CAN IMAGINE WHEN YOU HAVE A COALITION OF COUNTIES, COME TOGETHER, SUPPORTING SOMETHING, IT IS, YOU KNOW, IT REALLY HELPS AND ENHANCES THAT

APPLICATION. >> THAT IS CORRECT.

THIS COUNTY IS ABOUT A RURAL ONE.

SO WE ARE LOOKING AT SIZE WISE TO US AND WHAT THEIR PRETRIAL SERVICES ARE DOING SO WE CAN HELP OUT EACH OTHER.

>> OK. THANK YOU.

>> COMMISSIONER COHEN. JUST IN CASE.

>> NO. I THINK I MEAN I FULLY SUPPORT THIS INITIATIVE. I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT FOR US TO UNDERSTAND WHAT OTHER COUNTIES ARE DOING.

AND WHAT INITIATIVES OR IDEAS THEY ARE IMPLEMENTING THAT WE HAVEN'T THOUGHT OF YET. SO IF WE WILL LOOK AT CRIMINAL REFORM PLAN OF THE FUTURE FOR HAYES COUNTY, THEN I THINK THIS IS PART OF THAT CONTRIBUTION TO THAT.

FOR US TO EXPLORE WHAT OTHER COUNTIES ARE DOING AND HAVE MORE OF A REGIONAL IMPACT IN TO THIS GROWING AREA.

SO I FULLY SUPPORT IT. >> TELL ME ONE TIME, THE

[03:05:04]

COUNTY'S THAT ARE TOP OF MIND THAT YOU WILL REACH OUT TO?

>> I DON'T HAVE THAT LIST. ON THURSDAY WE WILL BE HAVING A WEBINAR ON THIS. I WILL FORWARD YOU THE LINK AND EACH ON THE COURT WE HAVE 50 REGISTRANTS THAT ARE SHOWING INTEREST. .

>> ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. ROXANNE?

>> COMMISSIONER INGALSBE?

[K.6. Discussion and possible action to authorize the acceptance of a grant award from the Texas A&M Forest Service, Watershed Protection Plan Implementation Grant in the amount of $50,000.00. HAMMER/BOUTTE/FLOCKE]

>> SIX, PLEASE.

> K-SIX.

>> SO MOVED. >> SECONDED.

PARK AND NATURAL RESOURCES. WE ARE JUST LOOKING TO ACCEPT THIS GRANT THAT HAS BEEN AWARDED 50,000.

>> GOOD JOB. PLEASE CALL THE ROLE.

[K.7. Discussion and possible action to authorize the submission of the application to the Hays County Master Naturalists in the amount of $1,500.00. HAMMER/BOUTTE/FLOCKE]

>> SO MOVED. >> DIRECTOR OF PARK RESOURCES LOOKING TO APPLY FOR $1,500 GRANT, NO MATCH REQUIREMENT.

TO BUILD A CHIMNEY HABITAT AT JACOB NATURAL AREA.

>> PLEASE CALL THE VOTE.

>> WHOSE PHONE IS REALLY DISTRACTING?

[K.8. Discussion and possible action to authorize the submission of the grant application and execution of associated documents to Texas Parks and Wildlife, Local Parks, Non-Urban Outdoor program in the amount of $32,257.42. HAMMER/BOUTTE/FLOCKE]

>> PLEASE OPEN K-8. >> SO MOVED.

>> SECONDED. >> KEEP IT GOING.

>> DIRECTOR OF PARK AND NATURAL RESOURCES TO CONSTRUCT A FENCE AND OBSERVATION PLATFORM AROUND THE BAT CAVE.

THIS IS NECESSARY TO ENSURE VISITOR SAFETY RESOURCE PROTECTION, AND TO HELP INTERPRET THAT VERY IMPORTANT FEATURE TO THE PEOPLE. THIS GRANT DOES REQUIRE A 50%

MATCH. >> I WILL SAY THAT THAT FENCE IS EXTREMELY REQUIRED. AND IT IS ALSO EXTREMELY EXPENSIVE AND HAS TO BE A CERTAIN TYPE OF FENCE THAT WE

PUT IN. >> WE ARE HOPING TO OFFSET THAT

WITH THIS GRANT. >> PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

WAIT, COMMISSIONER INGALSBE. >> THE $32000, IS THAT 32?

IS THAT WITH OUR MATCH? >> THAT IS THE TOTAL SO THE MATCH WOULD BE APPROXIMATELY 16.

>> OK. THAT IS ALL.

>> ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.

I ALWAYS SCAN THE COURT. PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

[K.11. Discussion and possible action to authorize purchases related to the Hays County Health Department's 2026 Back to School Fair on Saturday August 1, 2026 at Goodnight Middle School (1301 TX-123, San Marcos, TX 78666) for consumables and services up to $3,000.00. COHEN/GONZALES]

>> K-11. >> DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE AXE HO AUTHORIZE PURCHASE RELATED TO THE HAYS COUNTY HIM DOCUMENTING TO 2026 BACK TO SCHOOL FAIR ON SATURDAY, AUGUST 1, 2026 AT GOOD NIGHT MIDDLE SCHOOL, LOCATED 1301, TEXAS HIGHWAY 123, FOR CONSUMABLE AND SERVICE UP TO $3,000.

>> SO MOVED. >> COMMISSIONER SMITH THIS IS WAY BEYOND M. & M GRADUATE PARTY.

>> IT IS FROM THEIR COMMUNITY OUTREACH BUDGET.

>> LET'S FIND OUT WHAT IT'S ABOUT.

>> GOOD AFTERNOON. GOOD MORNING AND AFTERNON.

I AM THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT DIRECTOR.

I KNOW THE LEDGER REQUEST SAYS F FOR $3,000. THAT IS BECAUSE IF THERE IS UNANTICIPATED THINGS THAT OCCUR.

WE HAVE BUDGETED $400 REQUEST FOR CONSUMABLES AND DECOR FOR THE FAIR. AND ANTICIPATED IS SERVICES THAT WE JUST NOTIFIED TODAY THE SCHOOL WILL REQUIRE US TO GATE CUSTODIANS FOR THE FAIR FOR TIME TO CLEAN UP AND ORGANIZE.

I ANTICIPATE THAT TO BE ABOUT $600.

BUT OTHERWISE, AS COMMISSIONER SMITH DID SAY WE HAVE HAD THIS BUDGETED IN OUR MISCELLANEOUS BUDGET AT THE BEGINNING OF THE YEAR FOR $2,000. WE DIDN'T HAVE TO USE $1,000 FROM THE SYMPOSIUM DUE TO DONATIONS.

SOP THAT MAKES UP THAT TOTAL $3,000.

BUT IN THE ITEM I WOULD LIKE TO THANK THE ST. MARCOS FOR LETTING US USE THE SCHOOL FREE. COMMUNITY ACTION FOR SPONSORING

[03:10:04]

HOT DOGS TO AND EPIZZA FOR VENDORSES.

THE BREAKFAST TACOS AND THE WATER.

OTHER THAN THAT, EVERYTHING WILL BE LIMIT TOPPED SMALLER PURCHASES FOR OVER THE COUNTER MEDICATIONS AND ANTI-ITCH AND ANTIBACTERIAL, BAND-AIDS, IMMUNIZATION, WATER, APPLE

JUICE. >> SO UP TO AGENDA ITEM?

>> COMMISSIONER INGALSBE? >> LOOKS LIKE A THEME HERE.

>> YEAH. >> OK, YEAH.

SPACE RELATED. >> YES.

>> GREAT. THANKSES.

>> COMMISSIONER COHEN? >> I'M GOOD.

>> COMMISSIONER HAMMER? .

>> I'M GOOD. >> GOOD.

>> ALL RIGHT. PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

[K.12. Discussion and possible action to authorize the execution of a Service Agreement between Facilities and Resource Management and The Bug Master for one-time pest control services at the Yarrington Building in the amount of $500.00, and authorize a waiver to the Purchasing Policy. INGALSBE/CRUMLEY]

>> DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION AUTHORIZED EXECUTION OF SERVICE AGREEMENT AND THE BUG MASTER FOR ONE TIME PEST CONTROL SERVICES AT YAHRING ON TO BUILDING IN THE AMOUNT OF $500 AND AUTHORIZE THE WAIVER TO THE PURCHASING POLICY.

>> SO MOVED. >> SECOND.

>> WELL-WRITTEN AGENDA ITEM. PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

[K.16. Discussion and possible action to authorize the execution of a Service Agreement between Hays County and Metro Elevator Management, Inc. to provide elevator preventative maintenance and repair services pursuant to RFP 2026-P14. BECERRA/CRUMLEY/HUNT]

>> K-16. >> PROVIDE ELEVATOR PREVENTIVE MAINTENANCE AND REPAIR SERVICES EPURSUIT TO R.F.P.2026 P-14.

[K.17. Discussion and possible action to execute a Professional Services Agreement (2026-PSA-89) between Hays County and Johnson, Mirmiran, and Thompson (JMT), Inc. to oversee the Door PLC System and Door Lock Upgrade projects within the Hays County Jail with a not-to-exceed value of $39,375.00. INGALSBE/HIPOLITO/HUNT]

>> K-17, DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO EXECUTE A PROFESSIONAL SERVICES AGREEMENT, 2026-P.S.A.-89 BETWEEN HAYS COMMUNITY AND JOHNSON IIRAMIRAN THOMPSON, TO OVERSEE THE DOOR P.L.V. SYSTEM AND DOOR LOCK PROUP GRADE PROJECT WITH THE HAYES COUNTY JAIL WITH NOT TO EXCEED VALUE

OF $39.375. >> ARE THESE KNEW LOCKS OR

REPLACEMENT? >> REPLACEMENTS.

>> THANK YOU. >> OK.

IN WARRANTY RIGHT? PEOPLE HIT US WITH THAT

QUESTION. >> MOST OF THE WORK COMES WITH A YEAR WARRANTY JUST STANDARD. I JUST WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW WE SWITCHED NOTIFYING YOU GUYS OF ANY CONFLICTS, CHAPTER 176, DISCLOSURES. ON THIS SELECTION FORM.

WE WILL DO ITS AGAIN BUT THIS CHANGE SO THERE IS A RELATED PARTY DISCLOSURE JUST JENNIFER SHELL IS THE WIFE OF EXCOMMISSIONER PRECINCT THREE, SO I WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW.

>> OK THANK YOU. >> NOT IDENTIFIED BY WHO.

>> IT WASN'T NOTED ON THE AGENDA ITEM.

I HAVE BEEN PUTTING IN THE SUMMARY.

>> GOT IT. >> BUT IT DIDN'T MAKE IT ON

THAT ONE. >> THANK YOU.

>> QUESTION. IS THAT -- DOES THAT HAVE TO BE DISCLOSED? IS THAT LEGALLY HAVE TO BE

DISCLOSED? >> RELATED PARTY DISCLOSURE FORM IS SOMETHING THAT THE COURT APPROVED A LONG TIME AGO A SOMETHING THAT YOU HAVE REQUIREDERS IN TO PUT AS REQUIRED DEPARTMENT IN ALL FORMAL PROCUREMENTS SO WHEN THE POTENTIAL DEPARTMENT HEADS, COMMISSIONERS ARE POLLING A FIRM FROM ONE OF OUR PEOPLES THEN WHEN WE BRING THAT SELECTION FORM TO COURT, I THINK IT IS THE ONLY WISE TO TELL YOU ALL AT THAT POINT BECAUSE YOU MAY IN THE PULL SOMETHING FOR SIX MONTHS TO A YEAR TO THAT POOL.

I THINK THE COURT SHOULD KNOW LIKE HEY, THERE IS THIS DISCLOSURE, THAT IS UP TO YOU GUYS.

I MEAN, ON THE RELATED PARTY FORM, UP TO FIVE YEARS FROM

PAST EMPLOYMENT. >> YEAH.

>> FIVE YEARS. >> OK.

GOOD. >> WHERE DOES IT STOP AND WHERE

DOES ITS START? >> I WAS GOING TO ASK THE SAME THING. FORMER DIRECTOR'S GRANDDAUGHTER WORKS FOR A DIFFERENT FIRM. WHEN DO WE TELL HIS GRAND DAUGHTER SHE OPPORTUNITY HAVE TO.

>> FIVE YEARS. >> PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

[K.18. Discussion and possible action to pre-qualify all respondents who scored a event (70) or above for the RFQ 2026- Q05 Right-of-Way Acquistion Services Pool to establish a new pool of firms to be used on an as-needed basis for projects throughout the County for Right-of-Way Acquistion Services. The selection of a firm will be brought to Commissioners Court for approval, utilizing the Vendor Selection Form, prior to a contract being brought back to the Commissioners Court for execution. The pool will be reviewed and reopened on an annual basis. BECERRA/HUNT]

>> K-18. DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO PRO QUALIFY ALL RESPONDENT WHO SCORED AN EVENT 07 OR ABOVE FOR THE RFQ2026-Q04 RIGHT OF WAY ACCESSION SERVICES POOL TO ESTABLISH A FEW POOL OF FIRMS TO BE USED ON AN AS NEEDED BASIS FOR PROJECTS THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY, FOR RIGHT OF WAY, A SICK SERVICES. THE SELECTION OF A FIRM WILL BE BROUGHT BACK TO COMMISSIONERS COURT FOR APPROVAL.

UTILIZING THE VENDOR SELECTION FORM PRIOR TO A CONTRCT BEING

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BROUGHT BACK TO THE COMMISSIONERS COURT FOR EXECUTION. THE POOL WILL BE REVIEWED AND

REOPENED ON AN ANNUAL BASIS. >> SO MOVED.

>> OK. >> WELL-WRITTEN AGENDA ITEM.

ANYTHING ELSE TO ADD? >> SHOULD SAY 70 INVENT OF EVENT. SO WE WERE RECEIVING 28 PROPOSALS THREE DEEMED NOT RESPONSIVE.

J.M.T. IS ON THIS AS WELL WITH THE SAME DISCLOSURE.

AND WITH THE AWARD OF 70 AND BOVE, AWARDING 14 FIRMS INTO

THE POOL. >> THANK YOU.

[K.19. Discussion and possible action to pre-qualify all respondents who scored seventy (70) or above for RFQ 2026- Q04 Project Management Services Pool to further develop the current pool of firms to be used on an as-needed basis for projects throughout the County for Project Management Services. The selection of a firm will be brought to the Commissioners Court for approval utilizing the Vendor Selection Form prior to a contract being approved and executed by the Commissioners Court. The pool will be reviewed and reopened on an annual basis. BECERRA/HUNT]

PLEAS CALL THE ROLL.

>> DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION TO PRE-QUALITY ALL RESPONDENT WHO SCORED 70 OR ABOVE FOR R.F.Q.2026-Q04, PROJECT MANAGE WASES IS POOL TO FIRM DEVELOP THE CURRENT POOL OF FIRMS TO BE USED AS NEEDED BASIS FOR THE PROJECTS THROUGH THE COUNTY FOR PROJECT MANAGEMENT SERVICES.

THE SELECTION OF THE FIRM WILL BE BROUGHT TO THE COMMISSION'RE COURT FOR APPROVAL, UTILIZING THE VENDOR SELECTION FORM PRIOR PRIOR CONTRACT BEING APPROVED AND EXECUTED BY THE COMMISSIONERS COURT. THE PEOPLE WILL BE REVIEWED AND

REOPENED ON AN ANNUAL BASIS. >> SO MOVED.

>> SECOND. >> PURCHASING AGENT.

I READ YOU GUYS THE INFORMATION FOR THIS ONE ON THE LAST ONE.

SO I WANT TO CORRECT SO CAN WE DO THAT?

>> STRIKE IT. REVERSE IT.

JUST KEEP GOING. >> SAME INFORMATION.

QO4, PROJECT MANAGEMENT, 28 FIRM, THREE DEEMED NOT SPENCE PALLIATIVEMENT DISCLOSURE IS COMMISSIONER SHELL.

14 FIRMS AWARDED. ON THE RIGHT OF WAY, 25 RECEIVED, THREE DEEMED NON-RESPONSIVE.

THERE IS A COUPLE OF CLOSURES. DISCLOSURES.