Jun 09, 2026 Regular

[A. CALL TO ORDER]

[00:00:09]

>> ALRIGHT GUYS, IT IT IS SHOWTIME.

THANK YOU UPPER BEING HERE. THIS GOVERNMENT DOES NOT WORK I YOU DON'T PARTICIPATE, OR IT DOESN'T WORK IN YOUR FAVOR.

I WOULD LIKE TO CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER.

THERE YOU ARE THIS MORNING'S INVOCATION WILL BE LED BY OUR THEORY ON PASTOR DARIUS TODD IF YOU WILL PLEASE ALL RISE.

>> LET US BOW HEAVENLY FATHER W COME TO YOU TODAY TO SAY THANK YOU VERY THINK YOU FATHER WITH HEARTS FULL OF JOY AND APPRECIATION FOR THE OPPORTUNIT TO COME AND GATHER PEACEFULLY.

THAT WE MAY HEAR FROM THE CITIZENRY OF THIS COMMUNITY AND THE VARIOUS BACKGROUNDS AND AREAS WE HAVE COME FROM TODAY BRIGHT I PRAY, FATHER KNOWING W SEEK YOU TODAY THAT YOU WOULD GIVE US WISDOM, THAT WE MAY UNDERSTAND HOW TO ADDRESS THE CHALLENGES PLACED BEFORE US. THAT WE MAY FACE IN EVERY COMMUNITY THE OPPORTUNITY THAT WE WOULD BE UNIFIED, AND NOT SEPARATE. WE STAND IN OUR COMMITMENT TO SERVE THESE YOUR PEOPLE TO FULFILL EVERY CHARGE THAT WE HAVE BEEN GIVEN. WE SEEK YOUR HELP, YOUR WISDOM, AND YOUR GRACE TO DO IT ALL IT IS IN JESUS NAME I PRAY.

AMEN. >> MN.

>> THANK YOU, SIR. >> A SMALL MODIFICATION REQUEST.

>> ORDER. HALT.

HONOR GUARD, RIGHT FACE. HONOR GUARD, PRESENT COLORS.

HONOR GUARD, PRESENT ARMS. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH I STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. HONOR THE TEXAS FLAG.

I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THEE, TEXAS, ONE STATE UNDER GOD, ONE AND INDIVISIBLE.

>> HONOR GUARD, RIGHT FACE. HONOR GUARD, FORWARD MARCH.

HONOR GUARD FORWARD MARCH.

[APPLAUSE] >> ROXANNE, WILL YOU PLEASE CAL

THE ROLL? >> COMMISSIONER INGALSBE.

>> COMMISSIONER COHEN. COMMISSIONER HAMMER, COMMISSIONER SMITH, JUDGE BECERRA.%

[E. PUBLIC COMMENTS]

>> HERE. >> HOW MANY PUBLIC COMMENTS TO

BE HERE? >> FOR.

>> FOR. IN PERSON? ALRIGHT. LET'S GO AHEAD, WE HAVE FOUR PEOPLE SIGNED UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT SPIRIT HERE IS WHERE I WILL GIVE YOU A BIT OF THE LAY OF THE LIEN SO YOU CAN FIND THE BEST AND HIGHEST USE OF YOUR TIME AND WE AS A GOVERNMENT DON'T WASTE YOUR TIME. WE ARE GOING TO OPEN THE PUBLIC COMMENTS OF THE INDIVIDUALS THA HAVE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK IN THIS PORTION IN THEN THERE ARE THOSE WHO HAVE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK WHE WE OPEN ACTUAL AGENDA ITEMS. I ALWAYS LIKE TO MAKE THAT CLARIFICATION WHEN WE HAVE NEW NAME SIGNING UP.

[00:05:04]

>> PUBLIC COMMENT NUMBER ONE RODRIGO AMAYA.

>> THANK YOU, JUDGE, COURT. I'VE WANTED TO SAY THAT THIS LAST ELECTION EXPOSED TO LOTS O UNKNOWNS FOR ME AND SOME OF THE THINGS THAT I GET INVOLVED WITH. I GOT TO SEE A LOT OF WHAT WE CALL MECHANISMS OF INJURY. I GOT TO SEE A LOT OF PEOPLE I WASN'T SURE ABOUT WHAT SIDE THE WERE ON, BUT THEY CLEARLY OPENE IT UP AND I AM GOING TO BE GONE FOR A COUPLE OF MONTHS I HAVE SOME THINGS I'M GOING TO GO DO, BUT WHEN I COME BACK IT'S GOING TO BE A DIFFERENT APPROACH APPEARED.

I WISH THE RESULTS OF THE ELECTION WOULD HAVE BEEN DIFFERENT, BUT THAT IS PART OF THE GAME AND THE REASON I SIGNE UP TO SPEAK IS I AM STRONGLY A BIG ADVOCATE FOR REAL ACCOUNTABILITY. I SEE THE WASTE DAY IN AND DAY OUT IN AGENDA ITEMS THAT COME UP .

I COME FROM WORKING IN FOR MERT APARTMENTS WHERE WE LIVED BY TH MOTTO THAT YOU WANT THIS, YOU WANT THAT, THERE IS A NEED, A DREAM, A WISH LIST, AND THE THING IS THAT WHEN YOU REQUEST SOMETHING, THEY ALWAYS ASK US, CAN YOU JUSTIFY THIS? CAN YOU JUSTIFY THIS. THIS DIET IS HERE FOLKS ON THINGS WITH SOMETHING SIMPLE, I'VE HEARD COMMENTS FROM COMMISSIONERS TALK ABOUT I HAVE THAT SAME ISSUE, LET'S VOTE ON IT THE SAME WAY. I GUARANTEE YOU THAT IF I SIT WITH YOU AND ASKED YOU ABOUT TH AGENDA ITEM, YOU'RE UNDERSTANDING OF THE MATERIAL WOULD BE SO INSULTING THAT IT'S OFFENSIVE TO THE TAXPAYERS CONSIDERING THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT IT COSTS NOWADAYS TO LIVE OUT JUST EVERY DATE WITH THE FUEL AND EVERYTHING THAT'S HAPPENING.

I HOPE THINGS CHANGE FOR THE BETTER.

FOR SELECTION LIKE I SAID OPEN UP QUITE A BIT OF THINGS FOR ME.

I AM STILL IN SHOCK ABOUT SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WERE DISCLOSED AND I'M GLAD THEY WER BECAUSE NOW WE CAN STRATEGIZE T ADDRESS THOSE ISSUES THAT CAME OUT OF THIS ELECTION.

JUDGE, THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE, IT WILL BE A WHILE BEFORE I SEE YOU AGAIN, BUT YOU DID YOUR PART AND WE ARE GOING TO ORGANIZE IN NEXT ROUND WE COME UP, IT'S GOING TO BE A

TOTALLY DIFFERENT APPROACH. >> THANK YOU, SIR.

>> NEXT WE HAVE. >> LINDA [INDISCERNIBLE]

>> I HAVE ONE FOR LINDSAY. THE FIRST WHEN I HAVE IS ON BEHALF OF LINDSAY MEARS, JUDGE BECERRA AND COMMISSIONERS.

I'M A RESIDENT OF DARDEN HILL ROAD AND A COMMUNITY MEMBER OF 535 PEOPLE SIGNED, ALIGNED WITH SAVED ARDEN HILLTOP, OAK COALITION OF NEIGHBORS THEY CAR DEEPLY ABOUT THE FUTURE OF WESTERN HAYS COUNTY. WE WANT TO THINK THE JUDGE AND HIS TEAM POSTING THAT RECENT COMMUNITY MEETING AND FOR LISTENING TO RESIDENTS CONCERN REGARDING THE PROJECT.

VOICES WILL BE HURT AND APPRECIATIVE AND UPDATED TRAFFI IMPACT AND ROADWAY STUDY INFORMED BY COMMUNITY INPUT IS BEING BROUGHT FORWARD FOR CONSIDERATION AS PART OF THE MASTER ROAD CLAM. WE ALSO LOVE THE SENSE OF URGENCY THAT COMMUNITY FEEDBACK MUST PLAY A GREATER ROLE IN SHAPING THE FUTURE TRANSPORTATION PLANNING DECISIONS FOR IT WHAT BECAME CLEAR WAS THAT THE CONVERSATION IS MUCH LARGER THAN A SINGLE ROAD PROJECT RESIDENTS OR DISCUSSIONS ABOUT ROADWAY EXPANSION, REGIONAL TRANSPORTATION CONNECTIONS, FUTURE SCHOOL TRAFFIC, UTILITY INFRASTRUCTURE AND A PROPOSED 1 SUPPORT THOUSANDS OF FUTURE HOMES. HERE TOGETHER THESE PROJECTS RAISE IMPORTANT CONCERNS ABOUT THE LONG-TERM VISION IN WEATHER THE DEVELOPMENT OF A MAJOR TRANSPORTATION CORRIDOR AS A

[00:10:04]

LIKE MANY RESIDENTS I RECOGNIZE OUR COMMUNITY IS GROWING AND PE TRANSPORTATION IMPROVEMENTS ARE NEEDED TO ADDRESS MOBILITY AND SAFETY. WE SUPPORT THOUGHTFUL INVESTMENTS IN OUR ROADWAYS AND BELIEVE IMPROVEMENTS ARE NECESSARY, HOWEVER WE RESPECTFULLY REQUEST THAT THE PROJECT BE IMPLEMENTED AS A SUPER TWO ROADWAY CONFIGURATION WORTH PEDESTRIAN AND BICYCLE ACCOMMODATIONS RATHER THAN A CORRIDOR APPROACHING THE SCALE AND WITH OF ED TO 90 HIGHWAY.

GROWTH IS A REALITY, BUT WE SHOULD NOT BE THE SOLE FACTOR DECIDING OUR DECISIONS. WE ALSO MUST CONSIDER OUR NATURAL RESOURCES, PUBLIC SAFETY , AND THE QUALITY OF LIFE THAT MAKES WESTERN HAYES COUNTY UNIQUE.

MY COUSIN HAS BEEN HER CAREER PROTECTING THE PARKS AND PUBLIC LANDS THAT MADE CENTRAL TEXAS SUCH A REMARKABLE PLACE TO LIVE.

SHE OFTEN SHARES A QUOTE FROM PRESIDENT PRESIDENT LYNDON B.

JOHNSON ANOTHER PROUD HILL COUNTY NATIVE WHO SPILLS ESPECIALLY RELEVANT TODAY. IF FUTURE GENERATIONS ARE TO REMEMBER US WITH GRATITUDE, RATHER THAN CONTEMPT, WE MUST LEAVE THEM MORE THAN THE MIRACLES OF TECHNOLOGY, WE MUST LEAVE THEM WITH A GLIMPSE OF TH WORLD AS IT WAS CREATED NOT JUS AFTER WE GOT THROUGH WITH IT. AS YOU CONSIDER THE FUTURE OF THE ROAD, WE RESPECTFULLY ASK THAT THE PRESERVATION COMMUNITY INPUT AND PROTECTION OF WESTERN HAYES COUNTY HILL CARE COUNTY CHARACTER BE GIVEN THE SAME WEIGHT AS TRAFFIC PROJECTIONS AND FUTURE DEVELOPMENT PLANS. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND

SERVICE. >> THANK YOU.

>> I AM LINDA CASTILLO. COULD MORNING JUDGE AND COMMISSIONERS SPRAYED A REPRESENTATIVE SAVE DARDEN HILL GROUP, TODAY WE HAVE 535 COMMUNITY MEMBERS CONCERNED WIT THE PROPOSED DARDEN HILL ROAD EXPANSION.

OUR GROUP IS ADVOCATING FOR AN IMPROVED SUPER TWO LANE INSTEAD OF FOUR LANES WITH THE TERM IN MEDIAN.

HAYES COUNTY DOCUMENT DATED 2-8 2021 SCHEMATIC SHOWS RIGHT AWAY OR PROJECT SIZE TO BE 160-TO HUNDRED FEET, THIS IS 5-7 TIMES LARGER THAN THE EXISTING ROAD PRAYER THIS WILL DRAMATICALLY AFFECT MANY PROPERTY OWNERS ALONG DARDEN HILL ROAD.

WE SUPPORT ROAD IMPROVEMENTS TO SAFELY MOVE SCHOOL AND RESIDENTIAL TRAFFIC THROUGH THI AREA THAT WE DO NOT SUPPORT IT BECOMING A CONNECTOR TO A MAJOR LOOP BYPASS AROUND DRIPPING SPRINGS. THE COUNTY PROPOSED ROAD IS IN DIRECT CONFLICT WITH RESIDENTIA NEIGHBORHOODS INTO SCHOOLS.

TRUCK TRAFFIC SHOULD NOT BE ENCOURAGED ALONG ROUTES THAT HAVE STUDENT DRIVERS AND CARPOOLS.

BEFORE THIS PROJECT MOST FORWAR WE ARE REQUESTING AN UPDATED TRAFFIC IMPACT STUDY ENTERED NOISE IMPACT STUDY BE DONE.

ADDITIONALLY, THE SPEED LIMIT SHOULD BE SET AT 35 MILES PER HOUR JUST LIKE SAWYER RANCH ROA THAT IS ALSO A RESIDENTIAL AREA WITH THE SCHOOL JUST MILES AWAY. RESTRICT HEAVY TRUCK TRAFFIC, STUDENT DRIVERS AND CARPOOLS SHOULD NOT BE COMPETING ON THE SAME ROADWAYS. LASTLY, ELIMINATE THE FUTURE EXTENSION TO NOT INDUCE TROPHIC LUNG DARDEN HILL ROAD.

WE HAVE THE SUPPORT OF THE DRIFTWOOD HISTORICAL CONSERVTION SOCIETY THEY OFFICIALLY ALIGN WITH THE TWO LANE CONFIGURATION. D HCS POINTS TO THE LOCAL PRESIDENT OF FM 967. IT IS NOT A FOUR-LANE DIVIDED HIGHWAY, BUT IT SUCCESSFULLY SERVES THREE SCHOOLS AND SURROUNDING COMMUNITIES. IT DEMONSTRATES THAT THOUGHTFULLY DESIGNED TO LANE A RURAL ROADS CAN ACCOMMODATE GROWTH WITHOUT SACRIFICING THE CHARACTER OF THE AREA THEY PASSED THROUGH. DARDEN HILL ROAD DESERVES THE SAME CONSIDERED APPROACH. I WILL SUBMIT THE DRIFTWOOD HISTORICAL CONSERVATION STATEMENT TO THE COURTS, THANK

YOU FOR YOUR TIME. >> THANK YOU, MA'AM.

THAT WOULD BE A GREAT IDEA THAT WAY THEY COULD BE PART OF THE RECORD FOR EVERMORE. THANK YOU.

>> NEXT UP, ALAN [INDISCERNIBLE] >> GOOD MORNING.

MY NAME IS ALAN CAMERON, I AM UNITED STATES MARINE VETERAN OF THE FIT VIETNAM WAR AND A RESIDENT FOR THE LAST 18 YEARS.

I AM HERE TO SAY SOMETIMES WE NEED TO PAUSE AND SAY THANK YOU.

THIS YEAR MOST OF ALL, 250 YEAR OF FREEDOM IN THIS GREAT COUNTRY . WE JUST SAT AND WONDERED AND

[00:15:05]

I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE START STOP AND RECOGNIZE THAT THESE 250 YEARS OF FREEDOM ARE VERY EXPENSIVE.

IT WOULD BE IMPOSSIBLE IN JUST THREE MINUTES TO DESCRIBE ALL THE TREMENDOUS WORK ACCOMPLISHE BY OUR HAYES COUNTY VETERANS SERVICE OFFICE, BUT IT'S ENOUGH TIME TO PRAISE, THINK, AND BE GRATEFUL FOR THE ATTENTION TO TASK THAT THAT HAS ACCOMPLISHED FOR HAYS COUNTY, TEXAS. I AM PROUD OF THE SUCCESS OF TH PROGRAMS MANAGED THERE. FOR EXAMPLE, THE HAYS HOPE FOR VETERANS PROGRAM, THE HAYS COUNTY OPERATION GREEN LIGHT, AND THE HAYS HAYS COUNTY VETERANS TREATMENT COURT.

DSO HAS THEM ALL THE HEAVY LIFTING WITH HIS STAFF.

HE HAS BEEN STALWART, AND UNYIELDING IN HIS SERVICE TO OU LOCAL VETERANS IN HAYS COUNTY AND THE FAMILIES OF THE VETERANS . OF WITNESS THAT FIRST IN.

WE INDEED ARE FORTUNATE TO HAVE HIS LEADERSHIP AND MANAGEMENT SKILLS AND THE PEOPLE AND HIS OFFICE.

MY APPEARANCE HERE TODAY IS TO RECOGNIZE AND APPLAUSE HIM AS WELL AS THIS COURT COURT AND TH MEMBERS OF IT.

THE FIDUCIARY JOB YOU HAVE AS JUDGE AND COMMISSIONERS IS CONSTANTLY BEING CHALLENGED BY BUDGET ITEMS, AGENDA ITEMS, YET FOR THE 18 YEARS I HEAR, I HAVE SEEN BOATS GO THE RIGHT WAY, TO SUPPORT RVS ON ALL HIS EFFORTS. I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU AND I DON'T WANT ANYONE TO BE OVERLOOKED.

BUT I WILL SAY I AM PROUD TO LIVE HERE, I TRIED TO GO OUT AN HELP WHEN I CAN COME UP VETERAN ORGANIZATIONS, I'M PROUD TO OBSERVE THIS COUNTRY, BUT I'M MOSTLY PROUD THAT HERE IN CENTRAL TEXAS THERE ARE COUNTIE THAT DO NOT VOTE THE WAY YOU BOATS, WHO DO NOT ENCOURAGE VETERAN SUPPORT, THEY ARE ALL AROUND US. THIS COUNTY IS A VERY CONSCIENTIOUS COUNTY. YOU HAVE NEVER TURNED YOUR BACK ON ANY VETERAN I KNOW AND I WAN TO SAY THANK YOU.

IF THERE'S ANY MEMBER FROM THE LAW OFFICE HERE, I WOULD LOVE YOU TO COME FORWARD. IF I COULD ESPECIALLY RECOGNIZE COMMISSIONER INGALSBE. WE HAVE WORKED ON A FEW TESTS THROUGHOUT THE YEARS IN SHE HAS BEEN DOING THIS SINCE 1996.

I'VE APPROACHED HER AT TIMES WHEN I THOUGHT THE ANSWER WAS GOING TO BE NO AND SHE SAID YES. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER.

THANK YOU, JUDGE AND COMMISSIONER SPRAYED IF YOU DON'T MIND I'D LIKE TO TAKE THI RECOGNITION PLAQUE DOWN TO THE OFFICE OF THE PSO. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

>> THANK YOU, SIR.

[APPLAUSE] TO GET NEXT NAME?

>> THAT'S IT FOR IN PERSON. >> E-MAIL COMMENT NUMBER ONE, MINA GONZALEZ. EASTSIDE CAMPUS SHOULD NEVER HAPPEN, SINCE COMMUNITY INPUT. IS THERE A COUNTY COUNCIL BECAUSE OF THIS COMMUNITY OR IS THERE THERE A COMMUNITY BECAUSE OF THE COUNTY COUNSEL. AT ALL LEVELS THERE SHOULD BE COMMUNITY INPUT. NEAR AND SCHOOLS CONTINUING DEVELOP THE PUBLIC SAFETY VIA NEAR THE PUBLIC SAFETY BUILDING FOR EASTSIDE DESERVES MORE THOUGHTS ON THIS IDEA.

DON'T HAVE AN AGENDA NUMBER TO END HER, HELP ME UNDERSTAND THA COUNTY OFFICIALS RATIONALE. THANK YOU.

PUBLIC COMMENT NUMBER TWO FROM CURTIS WALT ULCER.

SAY NO STAY HAYS COMMENTS, IT WILL BE AN ENVIRONMENTAL DISASTER. PUBLIC COMMENT NUMBER THREE, SARAH LARR GOA I AM SUBMITTING THIS PUBLIC COMMENT IN OPPOSITION OF AGENDA ITEM K 13T THE HAYS COMMENT DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT. I URGE YOU TO VOTE NO.

AS A SCIENTIST TO UNDERSTAND FIRSTHAND HOW FRAGILE AND FINIT ARE NATURAL WATER SYSTEMS OUR AND HOW DIFFICULT IF NOT IMPOSSIBLE IT IS TO UNDO THE DAMAGE CAUSED BY POORLY DEVELOPMENT PER THIS DEVELOPMEN WOULD LOCATE DIRECTLY OVER THE

[00:20:03]

BOTH IN TERMS OF CONTAMINATION AND LONG-TERM RECHARGE CAPACITY.

ADDITIONALLY, IT'S APPROXIMATEL DOWN SLOPE FROM THAT WHILE HER QUALITY PROTECTION PLANS THREATENS THE INTEGRITY OF THE SPRINGS AND THE WATERSHED THAT OUR COMMUNITY DEPENDS ON.

HAYS COUNTY RESIDENTS DESERVE DEVELOPMENTS THAT GROW OUR COMMUNITY RESPONSIBLY, NOT AT THE EXPENSE OF THE WATER THAT SUSTAINS US. I RESPECTFULLY ASK THE COURT TO PROTECT OUR LAND AND WATER BY VOTING NO ON HAYS COMMENTS.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND YOU SERVICE TO THIS COMMUNITY.

PUBLIC COMMENT NUMBER FOUR, CATHERINE PEEK.

SHOULDN'T DEVELOPERS WE REQUIRE TO PUT ON THEIR PANTS BEFORE THEY PUT ON THEIR SHOES? SHOULDN'T THEY HAVE TCE Q APPROVAL BEFORE THEY GET COUNTY APPROVAL FOR DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT? WATER AVAILABILITY AND WATER QUALITY SHOULD BE ON THE TOP OF EVERYONE'S LIST OF CONCERNS, SO PLEASE VOTE NO UNTIL THE BC ACD NTC EQ HAVE WEIGHED IN ON THE APPROPRIATENESS OF THIS. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND CONSIDERATION. PUBLIC COMMENT NUMBER FIVE, SUSAN COOK. DEAR JUDGE AND COMMISSIONERS I AM SUSAN COOK AND I COME TO YOU TODAY TO ASK THAT YOU NOT ALLOW AI DATA CENTERS TO MOVE INTO HAYS COUNTY INTO WORK WITH OUR JOINTING NEIGHBORS NEIGHBORING COUNTIES TO KEEP THEM OUT OF OU PART OF TEXAS. NOT ONLY IS IT LARGELY SPECULATIVE INDUSTRY, BUT IN A TIME WHEN WE ARE ALL TRYING TO CONSERVE WATER AND ENERGY, WE SHOULD NOT BE CONSIDERING NEW TECHNOLOGIES THAT COULD DOUBLE OR TRIPLE OUR CURRENT USE OF BOTH IN THE NEAR FUTURE. IT IS NOT LIKE LEAKING JUST CREATE NEW WATER TO COOL COMPUTER CHIPS OR AFFORD TO BUILD NEW POWER PLANTS TO FUEL DATA CENTERS, NOT TO MENTION THEY GENERALLY NOT ONLY REPLACE FARM AND RANCH LANDS WHICH IS ALL NEEDED TO FEED OURSELVES, BUT THEY CREATE EYESORES UPON THE LAND AND THE NOISE. PEOPLE AND ANIMALS ARE NOT MADE FOR MACHINE NOISES PAPER HAVING TROUBLE FINDING ENOUGH WATER FO OUR CURRENT POPULATION FOR ARTICLE AND RECREATION WE ARE ILL EQUIPPED TO PROVIDE WATER FOR INDUSTRIES THAT DOES WHAT EXACTLY? MAKES WHO RICH CRACKS BENEFITS WHO AGAIN? DESTROYS WHOSE LIVES AND LIVELIHOOD PAID THIS INDUSTRIES PAYS OVER AND HEATS UP FARMLAND IN IT DRAINS AQUIFER IS, WHY AR WE EVEN CONSIDERING SUCH THINGS WHATEVER YOU DO, DO NOT ADOPT THE SAME SOME LAME REGULATIONS THAT SERVE ONLY AS A BLUEPRINT FOR HOW AI DATA CENTERS CAN MOV YOUR. RESOLUTIONS THAT LACK REAL OR THE INDUSTRIES TO TAKE ONE LOOK AT HOW DIFFICULT IT WOULD BE TO CONFORM TO OUR REQUIREMENTS FOR ALL USES OF LAND, AND ENERGY AN MOVE SOMEWHERE ELSE OR NOT HELPFUL.

IF ANY OF YOU HAS ALREADY DISCUSSED FUTURE EMPLOYMENT WIT OR TAKEN MONEY FROM OR SIGNED NDA'S TO PREVENT US FROM KNOWIN WHAT YOU'RE DOING, PLEASE STOP PLEASE STOP MASQUERADING AS PUBLIC SERVANTS BECAUSE YOU ARE CLEARLY NOT WORKING FOR THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE YOU'RE NOW. OF DESTRUCTIVE INDUSTRIES OUT O OUR COMMUNITY, WE NEED TO RAISE THE BAR SO HIGH THAT NO ONE IS WANTING TO DESTROY IT LANDS, US UP OUR WATER AND ENERGY OR ADD HEAT, NOISE OR POLLUTION, WE NEED TO ELECT ONLY PEOPLE TO OFFICE WHO WILL NOT LOSE SIGHT OF WHO THEY WORK FOR.

WE NEED TO MAKE IT CLEAR TO DEVELOPERS OF ALL STRIPES, BUSINESS, INDUSTRIAL AND RESIDENTIAL THAT HAYS COUNTY IS NOT WHERE YOU BRING YOUR BAD IDEA.

LET'S DEVELOP RESPONSIBILITY AN KEEP SUSTAINABLE AND RESILIENT DESIGN, WE ARE NOT FOOLS, ARE WE ?

THANKS. >> PLEASE OPEN F1.

[F.1. Adopt a Proclamation recognizing June 2026 as a month long celebration of Juneteenth in Hays County. INGALSBE]

>> F1. ADOPT A PROCLAMATION RECOGNIZIN JUNE 2026 AS A MONTH-LONG CELEBRATION OF JUNETEENTH IN

HAYS COUNTY. >> SO MOVED.

>> IF YOU'LL YOU READ IT. >> SECOND.

KICK APPROXIMATION RECOGNIZING JUNE 2026 AS THE HAYS COUNTY MONTH-LONG CELEBRATION OF JUNETEENTH WHERE AS THE INSTITUTION OF SLAVERY IN AMERICA CANTERO FOR NEARLY TO HUNDRED 46 YEARS UNTIL PRESIDEN ABRAHAM LINCOLN ISSUED THE EMANCIPATION PROCLAMATION DECLARING ENSLAVED PEOPLE TO BE

[00:25:02]

WHEREAS IN 1979 EMANCIPATION DATE BECAME AN OFFICIALS TEXAS STATE HOLIDAY THROUGHOUT EDWARD AND AND 2021 IT BECAME A FEDERA HOLIDAY RECOGNIZED ACROSS THE NATION.

WHEREAS IT SERVES AS AN OPPORTUNITY REFLECT UPON OUR NATION'S ONGOING PURSUIT OF FREEDOM, EQUALITY AND JUSTICE WHILE CELEBRATING THE PROGRESS AND ACHIEVEMENTS OF GENERATIONS WHO HELP SHAPE OUR COMMUNITIES AND OUR COUNTRY.

NOW THERE FOR BE IT RESOLVED THAT THE COURT DOES PROCLAIM JUNE 2026 AS HAYS COUNTY MONTH-LONG CELEBRATION OF JUNETEENTH AND CALLS FROM THE PEOPLE OF HIS COUNTY TO JOIN TOGETHER THROUGHOUT THE MONTH O JUNE AND THE HONOR OF THE SIGNIFICANT DATE AND TO RECOGNIZE THE IMPORTANCE OF JUNETEENTH. ADOPTED THE NINTH DAY OF JUNE,

2026. >> PERFECT.

GRADE PLEASE CALL THE ROLE. >> COMMISSIONER HAMMER.

>> S. >> COMMISSIONER INGALSBE.

>> S. >> COMMISSIONER SMITH.

>> JUDGE BECERRA. >> CONSTABLE, ARE YOU READY TO

APPROACH THE PODIUM? >> GOOD MORNING.

JUDGE AND COMMISSIONERS OF THE COURT.

MY NAME IS LILLIAN PETERSON AND I AM THE PRESIDENT OF THE JUNETEENTH ORGANIZATION NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION IN I WAN TO THANK YOU FOR HAVING US HERE I WANT TO TAKE A QUICK MOMENT T THANK OUR SPONSORS FOR MAKING THINGS HAPPEN FOR OUR COMMUNITY IN WE COULD NOT DO IT WITHOUT THEM.

I INVITE MORE PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY TO COME FORWARD AND JOIN US. I WANT TO SHARE WITH YOU OUR PLANS FOR JUNE AND I WILL GO AHEAD AND START OUT WITH THE FISH FRY AT THAT WE HAVE ANNUALLY.

WE ARE NOW ON OUR SIXTH ANNUAL FISH FRY AND WE HAVE THAT ON TH FIFTH OF JUNE AND IT WAS QUITE SUCCESS.

IF YOU DIDN'T GET TO GO, WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO IT AGAIN AND FOR YOU TO COME AND JOIN US THA WAS FROM 11-230 AT THE DUNBAR RECREATION ENDS AFTER THAT WE HAVE OUR SPECIALTY CELEBRATION WHICH IS JUNETEENTH, JUNE 19TH.

WE ARE GOING TO HAVE THAT START THE KICKOFF WITH THE PARADE AND THE UNITY WALK. EVERYONE WILL JOIN ETHIC CROSSWALK OF LBJ AND MARTIN LUTHER KING AND THAT WILL START AT 8:00 O'CLOCK. DURING THAT GATHERING COME OUT WE WILL A SPECIAL PRAYER BY JOH ARE LUCKY, ONE OF OUR TEXAS STATE GRADUATES AT THE TIME HE WAS IN TEXAS STATE, HE WAS THE BOBCAT, SO WE LOOK FORWARD TO HEAR HIS SPECIAL PRAYER TO US AND THEN WE ARE GOING TO HAVE, WHICH IS A SPEAKER WHICH IS OUR THEME THIS YEAR IS UNITY AND DRY .

[00:30:03]

FROM THERE THE LITTLE PART AND GO TO OUR PLASTIC, OUR TO 06 CM PLAZA HERE IN SAN MARCOS AND HAVE ARE 302ND YEAR BARBECUE ANNUAL COOKOFF AND WE ARE ECSTATIC TO FOR THAT TO START HAPPENING. AFTER THAT STARTS OFF, WE WILL HAVE TO RETURN ON THE 20TH WHIC IS A SATURDAY JUNE AND BACK AT THE PARK AND WE WILL HAVE CONTINUED THE BARBECUE PART OF IT, CONTEST, WE HAVE DIFFERENT ENTRIES FOR THAT UP TO THE AGES FROM 14-16 -YEAR-OLDS IN THE CONTEST, BARBECUE CONTEST TO ADULT AGES AND WE WILL HAVE CRAFTS, WE WILL HAVE MUSIC.

A SILENT AUCTION, A DJ, DOMINOES , AND AGAIN, OUR TALENTED COOKS. WE WILL HAVE OTHER EVENTS THAT WILL BE ADDED AND THERE FOR FUN FOR THE KIDS.

THAT WOULD LAST FROM BACKUP TO FRIDAY, WHERE GOING TO HAVE THA LAST UP UNTIL 10:00 P.M. AND THEN ON SATURDAY IT WILL LAST UNTIL 6:00 P.M. WE WILL HAVE OUR WINNERS OUR CHAIRMAN, DAVID PETERSEN WILL THEN CALL UP THE KIDS LIKE HE USUALLY DOES IN RECENT THEY HEL US PRESENT THE TROPHIES AND I WANT TO SAY THAT WE CAN'T DO IT WITHOUT OUR KIDS SO WE ALWAYS WANT TO KEEP THEM INVOLVED AND THEN WE HAVE ADDED ON OUR GALA.

THIS WILL BE OUR FIRST ANNUAL UNITY GALA IN IRA THEME IS UNIT AND LEAVE FULL HOLD THAT STARTING AT 630-10:00 P.M. ON SATURDAY JUNE 27TH. WE HAVE A SPECIAL SPEAKER DOCTO MANN TO WHITE WATSON AND HE WIL SPEAK ON UNITY AND WE HAVE DIFFERENT PERFORMERS, THE SPECIAL PERFORMANCES, WE WILL HAVE OF COURSE ONE OF OUR LOCAL PASTORS PRAY FOR THE NIGHT AND OCCASION FOR ALL OF US TO JOIN, BE INTRODUCED TO THE HISTORY, THE CULTURE OF BLACK AMERICANS AND WE HOPE THAT YOU CAN JOIN US , WE ARE STILL OPEN TO INVITE FOR EVERYBODY TO COME OUT.

WE HAVE A SPECIAL PRESENTATION OF OUR JUNETEENTH FLOWER WHICH IS THE HIBISCUS AND DAVID IS SHOWING IT HERE.

IT BREAKS DOWN EACH COLOR, THE OTHER, THE GREEN COME AT THE RED , AND THEN THE BLACK IN THE MIDDLE.

THIS WILL DISPLAYED AND IDENTIFIED IDENTIFYING EACH COLOR AS IT IS. THE BLACK MEANING FOR BLACK SKI OF AFRICAN-AMERICAN PEOPLE, RED BLOODSHED BY AFRICANS WHO DIED IN THE FIGHT FOR LIBERTY AND YELLOW IS FOR MANY AFRICAN COUNTRIES THIS WAS ADDED TO SHO UNITY.

GREEN IS FOR THE GROWTH, PROSPERITY, AND OF OUR

[00:35:07]

WE HAVE A WONDERFUL PROGRAM PLANS FOR THE COMMUNITY, AND IT IS OPEN TO ANYBODY TO COME AND SHARE.

AGAIN, I WANT TO THANK EVERYBOD FOR GIVING US THE OPPORTUNITY, THE COMMUNITY HERE, AND PLEASE JOIN US, BE A SPONSOR, IF I CAN GET THE TEAM OF THE JUNETEENTH FOUNDATION TO STEP FORWARD SO W CAN IDENTIFY THE FEW THAT WE DO HAVE HERE ARE THE ONES THAT MAK THESE THINGS HAPPEN WITH THE HELP OF OUR SPONSORS AND WHAT W GET FROM OUR SPONSORS, WE GIVE BACK TO THE COMMUNITY.

I APPRECIATE THIS AND I WILL TURN IT OVER TO OUR CHAIRMAN SO HE CAN SAY WHAT HE PUT LIKE TO SAY.

>> REAL QUICK. JUDGE AND COMMISSIONERS, THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH, I THINK THAT WAS KIND OF A LENGTHY HISTORY READING ABOUT JUNETEENTH, BUT THIS IS A VERY SPECIAL MONTH.

WE THANK YOU AGAIN, WE WANT THE PUBLIC TO COME OUT AND ENJOY ANOTHER GOOD YEAR FOR HISTORY THAT IS STILL IN THE MAKING.

WE HAVE A LOT OF ACTIVITIES THA ARE GOING ON LIKE THE PRESIDENT SAID, WE HAVE LEFT FISH FRY NEX IS OUR PARADE UNITY WALK WHICH IS VERY IMPORTANT FOR EVERYONE TO COME OUT AND ENJOY THE FREEDOM THAT YOU HAVE. YOU KNOW, JUNETEENTH ISN'T THE ONLY ONE WE HAVE SEVERAL OTHER EVENTS THAT GO ON THROUGHOUT TH YEAR, CINCO DE MAYO IS ONE OF THOSE THAT CULTURES AND HISTORY THAT WE ALSO HAVE TO LOOK AT ALSO, BUT THESE MEMBERS, THESE BOARD MEMBERS BACK HERE, ARE NO PAID, OUR SPONSORS, BUT SPONSOR US TO HAVE THIS, IT ALL GOES BACK INTO THE COMMUNITY.

WE ARE ALL ABOUT SCHOLARSHIPS, WE ARE ALL ABOUT GIVING WHERE W NEED TO GIVE, AND YOU WILL SEE US OUT THERE DOING A LOT OF THINGS WITHIN THE COUNTY, JOINING LAW ENFORCEMENT, ALL TH WAY AROUND, EMS, FIREFIGHTERS, BENEFITS, FUNDRAISERS, AND THIS SORT OF THING. THIS IS WHAT OUR NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION IS ALL ABOUT. THE BOARD MEMBERS ARE ALL INVOLVED IN THIS, SO WE APPRECIATE IT.

THOSE ARE VERY IMPORTANT TO YOU TO COME OUT AND CELEBRATE A DAY OF FREEDOM. YOU ARE OFF FROM WORK, SO IF YOU'VE GOT SOMETHING GOING ON, SO BE IT.

NO MATTER IF IT IS JUNETEENTH O ANY OTHER EVENTS, ENJOY YOUR DA DOING IT BECAUSE GOD DOES NOT PROMISE US ANYTHING.

IT IS A DAY OF BEING WHO YOU AR AND WHAT YOU RECOGNIZE AND WHAT YOU DO ON THE DAY THAT YOU ARE OFF.

THAT EVEN MEANS WHEN YOU GET UP AND THE MORNINGS, YOU DON'T KNO WHAT YOUR DAY IS LIKE RIGHT YOU KNOW YOU HAVE A TASK AND YOU HAVE TASKS IN FRONT OF YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, AND HOPEFULLY WE WILL SEE SOME OF YOU OVER THE WEEKEND.

>> I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION AND PUTTIN THE DATE OUT FOR THE GALA BECAUSE I AM THE CHAIR OF THE STATE CONVENTION IN I WILL BE I CORPUS CHRISTI SO I WANT UNTIL YOU HAVE HAVE A TIME I WILL NOT BE THERE, BUT I JUST HAVE PRIOR COMMITMENTS, BUT THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU'RE DOING AND I APPRECIATE YOUR WORK. COMMISSIONER, BEFORE WE GO TO TALK I ALSO HAD ALEX EMBREE MEMBER WHO WANTED TO TALK,.

>> I AM HAPPY FOR ALEX TO TOSS. >> GOOD MORNING, COMMISSIONERS, GOING ON THAT SAME DAY, THIS IS THE MONTH OF JUNE SO AS THE PROCLAMATION READ, WE ARE CELEBRATING JUNETEENTH ALL MONT RATE I BELIEVE THIS SATURDAY TH 13TH WE WILL BE CELEBRATING IN BUTTE, TEXAS. ALSO, AFTER THE UNITY WALK THEY RECREATION CENTER WHERE THE DHA WILL BE CELEBRATING THE JUNETEENTH BLOCK PARTY AT THE RECREATION CENTER.

ALSO ON JUNE 20TH, WE WILL HAVE OUR HISTORICAL MAZE WHICH WILL

[00:40:04]

AND THEN THE BIG ONE THAT TAKES PLACE THE SAME NIGHT AS THEY GALA, WE ARE BRINGING THE BLACK HISTORY 101 MOBILE MUSEUM MUSEU TO THE CITY OF SAN MARCUS. I'M JUST GOING TO SAY IT LOOK THAT UP AND YOU WILL LEARN THE HISTORY ABOUT THAT AND I WILL LEAVE IT AT THAT SO WE INVITE THE COMMUNITY TO COME OUT AND B INVOLVED WITH EVERYTHING GOING ON IN HAYS COUNTY.

THERE IS A LOT THAT IS TAKING PLACE, HAYS COUNTY IS GROWING.

>> JUST FOR THE GIVING PUBLIC, WILL YOU STATE YOUR NAME AND

TYPE. >> I AM THE PRESIDENT OF THE DUNBAR HERITAGE ASSOCIATION HER IN SAN MARCUS, TEXAS AND ALL OF THAT INFORMATION CAN BE FOUND O OUR WEBSITE.

>> THANK YOU. >> I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR EVERYBODY WHO CAME OUT. I KNOW IT TAKES A LOT OF WORK AND I WANT TO CONGRATULATE YOU ALL ON 30 TO YEARS THAT'S AMAZING. IT IS A TIME FOR OUR COMMUNITY TO COME TOGETHER TO UNITE AND RECOGNIZE THE FREEDOMS WE HAVE.

I JUST APPRECIATE EVERYTHING THAT YOU ALL DO.

>> THANK YOU. >> I JUST WANT TO ECHO MY COLLEAGUE. I APPRECIATE THE FOUNDATION, IT DOES TAKE A LOT OF WORK TO GET THESE THINGS DONE AND TO BE ABL TO REALLY GIVE SOME RECOGNITION TO YOUR HERITAGE IN I APPRECIAT EVERYTHING YOU ALL DO. PETERSON, YOU NEVER MISS A CHANCE TO BARBECUE, SO I APPRECIATE ALL OF YOUR BARBECUING EFFORTS. AND MADE SURE I HAD THIS BABY RIGHT BEFORE THE CELEBRATION, S SIGN ME UP FOR MARGARITA JUDGE AGAIN. IT'S A GOOD TIME TO CELEBRATE HOW FAR WE'VE COME AS A NATION AND HOW WE CONTINUE TO MOVE THA WAY. I AM BLESSED TO LIVE IN THIS DA

AND AGE, SO THINK Y'ALL. >> I KNOW THE PETERSONS OATH MENTION HOW MUCH EFFORT GOES INTO THIS AND I KNOW HOW MUCH WORK YOUR FAMILY PUTS INTO THE DUNBAR ASSOCIATION IT'S GREAT T SEE THAT KIND OF SERVICE AND TO KNOW THAT IT'S A GENERATIONAL SERVICE IT'S NOT JUST ONE MEMBE OF A FAMILY THAT HAS DECIDED THIS IS THEIR PASSION, IT IS TRULY A PASSION FOR YOUR ENTIRE FAMILY JUST AS IT IS FOR THE PETERSONS AND I WOULD BE REMISS IF I DIDN'T NAME ONE OTHER FAMILY I THINK AS A TRUE PASSIO AND ONE EVENT THAT WASN'T MENTIONED AND IT'S ALSO ON THE 19TH FROM 4-6:00 P.M. AT THE ESPINOZA HALL IS THE 47TH ANNUA ROSE BROOKS CAKE AUCTION AND IF YOU HAVE NEVER BEEN TO THAT, IT IS AN EVENT GREAT IT IS A FUN DAY THERE ARE RAFFLES, THEY ARE AUCTIONING OFF CAKES AS YOU CAN IMAGINE AND IT ALL GOES TO SCHOLARSHIPS. I WOULD INVITE YOU TO THAT AS WELL AND I HOPE YOU ALL HAVE A GREAT CELEBRATION.

>> I WOULD LIKE TO SAY, MAYBE YOU WANTED TO SAY SOMETHING VER SLIPPERY SNEAK YOU IN. LET ME JUST SAY THIS GREAT IT I ALWAYS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO COME TOGETHER AND JUST BECAUSE WE ARE HIGHLIGHTING SOMEONE'S HISTORY OR PRIDE OF FILL IN THE BLANK, IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT WE ARE TRYING TO PUSH DOWN SOMEONE ELSE. I AM A FATHER OF TWO SONS, SO I ALWAYS SEE THE LEVELING OF THE PLAYING FIELD OR THEIR SHAKING OF THE ETCH-A-SKETCH AND MY SON GROWING UP, IF YOU GIVE ONE COMPLEMENT THE OTHER ONE WOULD SOMETIMES SAY WHAT ABOUT ME, WHAT ABOUT ME, SO IT'S IMPORTAN THAT WE AS A COMMUNITY IN THIS DAY AND AGE WHILE IT'S TOO EASY TO BE PASSIONATE KEYBOARD WORRIERS, WE DON'T SEE EACH OTHER, AND IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE REALIZE WE ARE SOMEONE'S LOVED ONES REGARDLESS OF HOW WE LOOK COME OUT REGARDLESS OF WHA WE BELIEVE, REGARDLESS OF WHAT WE FOLLOW, WE ARE ALL MOVING THROUGH THIS LIFE IN A WAY THAT WE FEEL IS BEST FOR US AND OUR FAMILIES AND THE MORE WE UNDERSTAND PEOPLE'S LOVE AND APPRECIATION FOR THEIR HERITAGE THE MORE WE COME TOGETHER AS A COMMUNITY BECAUSE PRAISING ONE ISN'T PUTTING DOWN ANOTHER. I HAVE HEARD NOTHING NEGATIVE HERE AND I THINK THAT IS GOOD AND HOW IT SHOULD BE AND THAT'S HOW IT'S ALWAYS BEEN. I WANT TO THANK YOU.

AS AN ADDITIONAL WORD, SHE WAS LEFT OUT BECAUSE OF CAPACITY IN THE COURTROOM MISS MINNIE MILLE IF YOU DON'T MIND STEPPING TO THE PODIUM IN RIGHT AFTER SHE SPEAKS EVERYONE INTERESTED IN COMING UP TO TAKE A PICTURE, COME UP WITH US TO THE DAIS.

>> I WAS GOING TO SAGE YOU WANT TO DO F2 AS WELL BECAUSE THEY

[00:45:03]

BOTH GO HAND-IN-HAND. >> WE COULD, HAPPILY.

>> 'S ALEX HAS DONE AN AWESOME JOB I JUST WANT TO RECOGNIZE TH COUNTY. I WOULD LIKE FOR THE JUDGE SANDRA BRYANT TO COME UP AND TALK ABOUT WHAT THEY ARE GOING TO DO SINCE THIS IS A HAYS COUNTY PROCLAMATION, NOT AS PAR

OF IT. >> THANK YOU.

THANK YOU JUDGE AND COMMISSIONERS JUST A COUPLE OF EVENTS THAT I WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE.

IT IS THE SIXTH ANNUAL JUNETEENTH JUBILEE.

SO SAVE THE DATE IS SATURDAY, THE 13TH FROM 10-1 AT THE CITY HALL. AGAIN, THAT IS JUNE 13 FROM 10- GOOD IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, YOU CAN GO TO SOCIAL MEDIA AND FIND WHERE INFORMATION MORE INFORMATION.

ALSO, WE HAVE SHE WANTED ME TO MENTION THE FLAG RAISING CEREMONY, THIS IS ON THE 19TH FROM WE HAVE TWO LOVELY SPEAKER THAT ARE GOING TO BE THERE AND AM GOING TO MENTION THEIR NAMES ONE OF THEM IS SHERRY HAMILTON. SHE IS A VERY INVOLVED COMMUNIT PERSON IN THEN THE OTHER ONE I WILL MENTION IS MY HUSBAND WHO WILL BE THE GUEST SPEAKER THERE AS WELL.

BOTH OF US WILL BE GUEST SPEAKERS.

JUST TO SHOUT OUT RAY BRYANT IS THE FORMER CITY COUNCIL FOR KYL

IMPUTABLE. >> ROXANNE, WHILE WE WERE AT IT WAS SUGGESTED TO OPEN F2 AS WELL .

>> F2, ADOPT A PROCLAMATION RECOGNIZING JUNE 27, 2026 AS TH DATE OF THE INAUGURAL JUNETEENT GALA IN HAYS COUNTY.

[F.2. Adopt a Proclamation recognizing June 27th, 2026 as the date of the inaugural Juneteenth Gala in Hays County. INGALSBE]

>> SO MOVED. >> SECOND.

>> PROCLAMATION RECOGNIZING JUN. WHERE AS IT COMMEMORATES JUNE 19TH 1865, THE DAY WHEN NEWS OF FREEDOM REACHED ENSLAVE AFRICAN AMERICANS IN TEXAS MARKING A PIVOTAL MOMENT IN THE HISTORY OF OUR NATION IN SYMBOLIZING THE ENDURING PURSUI OF LIBERTY, JUSTICE AND EQUALIT FOR ALL AND WHEREAS AS AN OPPORTUNITY TO REFLECT UPON OUR SHARED HISTORY, CELEBRATE THE ACHIEVEMENTS AND CONTRIBUTIONS OF AFRICAN AMERICANS AND REAFFIRM OUR COMMITMENT TO BUILDING STRONGER MORE INCLUSIV COMMUNITIES. WHEREAS THE FIRST JUNETEENTH GALA BRINGS TOGETHER RESIDENTS, COMMUNITY LEADERS, ORGANIZATIONS , BUSINESSES, AND FAMILIES TO HONOR THIS HISTORIC OCCASION THROUGH FELLOWSHIP, RECOGNITION, AND CELEBRATION.

AND WHEREAS THE THEME UNITY REFLECTS THE COLLECTIVE STRENGT OF A COMMUNITY THAT EMBRACES DIVERSITY, FOSTERS UNDERSTANDIN AND WORKS COLLABORATIVELY TO CREATE OPPORTUNITIES FOR ALL PEOPLE. WHEREAS IN THE SPIRIT OF UNITY ENCOURAGES RESIDENTS TO BRIDGE DIFFERENCES, CELEBRATE CULTURAL HERITAGE, AND BUILD LASTING RELATIONSHIPS THAT PROMOTE MUTUAL RESPECT, CIVIC ENGAGEMENT , AND COMMUNITY PRIDE PARADE WHEREAS THE FIRST JUNETEENTH GALA SERVES AS A MEANINGFUL MILESTONE RECOGNIZIN THE IMPORTANCE OF PRESERVING HISTORY WHILE INSPIRING FUTURE GENERATIONS TO UPHOLD THE VALUE OF FREEDOM, EQUALITY, AND UNITY. NOT BE A RESULT THAT THE COMMISSIONERS COURT HERE DOES PROCLAIM JUNE 272026 AS A DAY O RECOGNITION FOR THE FIRST GALA AND COMMEND THE THEME AS A REFLECTION OF OUR COMMUNITY'S DEDICATION TO INCLUSION, UNDERSTANDING AND SHARED PROGRESS.

THE CONTINUED UNITY CELEBRATION CALLS UPON THE PEOPLE TO JOIN TOGETHER THROUGHOUT THE MONTH O JUNE IN HONOR OF THE SIGNIFICAN DAY AND SEE IMPORTANCE OF JUNETEENTH.

>> PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. >> COMMISSIONER INGALSBE PERTH.

>> SP EIGHT. >> COMMISSIONER SMITH.

>> COMMISSIONER HAMMER. JUDGE BECERRA.

>> YES. I BELIEVE THINGS HAVE BEEN SET OUR PREDICAMENT WERE GOOD. SO NOW WE ARE READY TO TAKE THE PICTURE FOR THOSE INVOLVED WITH THESE PROCLAMATIONS TO COME ON UP. WE WILL HOLD PROCLAMATIONS AND TAKE A QUICK FAMILY PORTRAIT. COME ON UP.

[F.3. Presentation of May and June 2026 Service and Retirement Awards. BECERRA/GRANJENO]

[00:53:17]

>> WE ARE GOING TO KEEP MOVING. PLEASE OPEN F3.

>> F3, PRESENTATION OF MAY AND JUNE 2026 SERVICE AND RETIREMEN

AWARDS. >> ALL RIGHT, THE PODIUM IS

YOURS, SIR. >> GOOD MORNING COMMISSIONERS AND JUDGE BECERRA. I AM DAVID RIGGS I AM AN EMPLOYMENT COMPENSATION HERE IN HAYS COUNTY.

IT IS MY PLEASURE TO INTRODUCE THE SERVICE AWARD RECIPIENTS FO MAY AND JUNE OF 2026. I ASKED THE COURT'S INDULGENCE WE HAVE OVER 60 PEOPLE TO RECOGNIZE PARADE FIRST YEAR AWARD RECIPIENTS FROM THE COUNT CLERK'S OFFICE.

>> BEFORE HE STARTS I WANT TO ASK TO KEEP THIS MOVING BECAUSE WE HAVE A LOT OF COURT AND I WANT TO BE RESPECTFUL OF EVERYONE'S TIME. HOLD YOUR APPLAUSE UNTIL THAT HAS BEEN COMPLETELY READ, THEN YOU CAN DO YOUR APPLAUSE, IT

JUST HELPS US KEEP IT LIVING. >> THANK YOU, SIR.

FROM THE COUNTY CLERK'S OFFICE, RODRIGUEZ.

>> COME ON UP. >> FROM THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, MALAN GARZA. EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT AT FIRST, JOSH CONTI, MACY COHEN. FROM THE JUSTICE OF THE PEACE, WE HAVE RESULTED PEREZ AND DANIEL APPEARED FROM THE DETENTION CENTER, CHRISTOPHER ALVAREZ, AND PAUL TRISTON.

FROM THE PARKS DEPARTMENT WE HAVE STEPHEN MARCO, AND TUCKER

[00:55:01]

FROM THE COUNTY COURT WE HAVE TERRA HENRY FROM THE DISTRICT CLERK'S OFFICE WE HAVE JASMINE GOMEZ, FROM THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT WE HAVE CAITLIN LUCE E-MAIL.

FROM THE PARKS DEPARTMENT WE HAVE JAMES BAKER FROM THE SHERIFFS OFFICE WE HAVE JOHN GARNER, PAULA GARCIA, AND RICHARD VALDES. THOSE ARE OUR YEAR ONE SERVICE AWARD RECIPIENTS.

[APPLAUSE] >> CONGRATULATIONS.

SO JUST GIVE LITTLE PIVOT MAKE THIS YOUR CENTER, I'M ALL ABOUT THE VISUALS. YOU ARE THE HONOREE.

COME ON THEN. >> LOOK RIGHT HERE.

ONE, TWO, THREE. ONE, TWO, THREE.

[APPLAUSE] NOW GET BACK TO WORK.

KKR FIVE-YEAR SERVICE AWARD RECIPIENTS FROM THE CONSTABLE'S OFFICE, ALEXANDRIA BRAUN, FROM THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, KC STORY, AND KRISTA KIRBY, THE DISTRICT COURTS WE HAVE MADISON YOUR RITA, FROM THE SHERIFFS OFFICE WE HAVE COURTNEY GLASS, AND ANTON LINDSAY, MARY SANCHEZ FROM DISTRICT CLERK'S OFFICE AN FROM SHERIFFS OFFICE WE WE HAVE AARON MCCOY.

[APPLAUSE] CONGRATULATIONS.

I'M SORRY, WE HAVE LINDMARK, NOAH DOMONIQU, FIVE YEARS.

>> COME ON UP. >> LOOK RIGHT OVER HERE.

ONE, TWO, THREE. ONE, TWO, THREE.

>> THANK YOU, GUYS.

[APPLAUSE] >> OUR NEXT CATEGORY ARE THE TE YEAR SERVICE AWARD RECIPIENTS. I FIRST RECIPIENT FROM THE CONSTABLE PRECINCT TWO, DAVID DYKES.

DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, DEBORAH ANDERSON.

EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT, RUSSELL MONET OR, THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE, BURGER DAILY ON PER THE CONSTABLE'S OFFICE ROLAND VASQUEZ. THAT IS IT FOR EIGHT YEARS TEN.

[APPLAUSE] 123, 123,.

[01:00:03]

[APPLAUSE] >> FOR A 15 YEAR SERVICE AWARD RECIPIENTS FROM THE COSTS TO BOTH OFFICE JUSTIN DRAKE, CONSTABLE'S OFFICE PRECINCT THREE, FRANK TREATMENT.

FROM THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE LISA MASON, JOHN LITTLE, SCOTT WHETSTONE, AND RYAN [INDISCERNIBLE].

AND FOR THE VETERAN IMAGE VISITATION, JUNE PRATHER.

[APPLAUSE] >> CONGRATULATIONS.

ONE, TWO, THREE, ONE, TWO, THREE .

>> THANK YOU, SIR. OUR NEXT CATEGORY OURS 20 YEARS SERVICE AWARD RECIPIENTS FROM THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE, COURTNEY CAMPBELL AND STEPHEN LUCILLE. AND ERIC BATCH.

[APPLAUSE] FROM THE COUNTY COURT OF WELBY

HAVE CHRIS JOHNSON. >> CONGRATULATIONS.

BEAUTIFUL, 5. OUR NEXT CATEGORY IS 25 YEARS O SERVICE. FROM THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE, MICHAEL BRIGGS.

[APPLAUSE] WE ALSO WANT TO TAKE A MOMENTTO RECOGNIZE ARMY IN JUNE RETIREES FROM DISTRICT COURTS, SHERRY ROGERS, FROM THE MAINTENANCE DEPARTMENT TRICIA SANCHEZ READ FROM THE SHERIFFS OFFICE, BRIAN CARPENTER, AND ELIZABETH PRADO AND FROM TRANSPORTATION, NORM SILVEY.

[APPLAUSE] I ASKED THE COURT TO GIVE ME A FEW MOMENTS TO REMOVE THE ITEMS FROM THE DAIS

I WILL TAKE ONE FLAG BACK. >> SO WHAT WE ARE GOING TO DO I WE ARE GOING TO TAKE A GROUP AN THEN WE ARE GOING TO TAKE INDIVIDUAL. EVERYBODY OVER HERE, ONE, TWO, THREE. ONE, TWO, THREE.

LOOKING RIGHT HERE. ONE, TWO, THREE.

ONE, TWO, THREE. >> AND THIN SMALLER.

THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU.

LOOK RIGHT HERE, ONE, TWO, THREE , ONE, TWO, THREE.

[F.4. Adopt a Proclamation declaring June 2026 as LGBTQIA+ Pride Month in Hays County. COHEN]

[01:05:01]

PLEASE OPEN F4. >> F-4.

ADOPT A PROCLAMATION DECLARING JUNE OF 2026 AS LGBTQIA+ PRIDE

MONTH IN HAYS COUNTY. >> SO MOVED.

>> PLEASE CALL THE ROLE. >> COMMISSIONER SMITH?

>> DON'T WE WANT TO READ IT FIRST.

>> SURE, WE CAN READ IT FIRST. PROCLAMATION RECOGNIZING JUNE 2026 AS BISEXUAL CLEAR INTERSEX IN ASEXUAL PRIDE MONTH.

WHERE AS DURING PRIDE MONTH WE RECOGNIZE AND CELEBRATE THE RESILIENCE AND CONTRIBUTIONS OF THE LGBTQ LGBTQIA+ COMMUNITY PRIDE WE REFLECT ON THE PROGRES MADE TOWARD INCLUSION AND JUSTICE FOR ALL AND WHEREAS HAY COUNTY OF BIRDS VALUES OF FAIRNESS AND FREEDOM AND REMAIN COMMITTED TO FOSTERING THE COMMUNITY WERE ALL RESIDENTS AR WELCOMED, RESPECTED, AND PROTECTED FROM DISCRIMINATION BASED ON GENDER IDENTITY, OR GENDER EXPRESSION. WHEREAS PRIDE MONTH IS A TIME T HONOR THE DIVERSITY THAT STRENGTHENS OUR COMMUNITY IN TO RECOGNIZE THE ONGOING IMPACT AN LEADERSHIP OF OUR LGBTQIA+ NEIGHBORS IN EVERY ASPECT OF CIVIC LIFE.

WHEREAS EMBRACING THE FULL SPECTRUM OF IDENTITIES AND EXPERIENCES IN OUR COUNTY MAKES US STRONGER, MORE COMPASSIONATE AND MORE UNITED. WHEREAS BY PROCLAIMING JUNE OF 2026 AS WE RECOMMIT TO BUILDING A MORE INCLUSIVE EQUITABLE SOCIETY WHERE EVERYONE IS TREATED WITH DIGNITY AND RESPECT . WHEREAS AS WE MARK PRIDE MONTH WE CELEBRATE THE PROGRESS ACHIEVED AND RECOGNIZE THE WORK THAT STILL LIES AHEAD IN SAFEGUARDING THE RIGHTS, SAFETY AND WELL-BEING OF LGBTQIA+ INDIVIDUALS IN HAYS COUNTY AND BEYOND. WHEREAS WE HONOR THOSE WHO PAVE THE WAY FOR EQUALITY AS WELL AS THOSE WHO CONTINUE TO WORK TODA STRIVING TOWARD A FUTURE WHERE EVERYONE CAN LIVE OPENLY, AUTHENTICALLY AND WITHOUT FEAR. THERE FOR IT BE IT RESOLVED THA THE COMMISSIONERS COURT DOES HERE BY PROCLAIM JUNE OF 2026 A LGBTQIA+ PRIDE MONTH, ADOPTED THIS DAY OF JUNE, 2026.

>> COMMISSIONER SMITH? >> S.

>> COMMISSIONER HAMMER. >> S.

>> COMMISSIONER INGALSBE? >> S.

>> JUSTICE BECERRA. >> S.

IS THEIR ANYONE TO APPROACH THE PODIUM AND SPEAK ON THIS PARADE IF YOU WILL STATE YOUR NAME AND TITLE AND AFTER THIS COMMENT, W WILL COME UP FOR A PICTURE THAT ANYONE WHO WANTS TO BE A PART O

IT. >> I AM SYLVIA I AM HERE TO REPRESENT SAN MARCOS PRIDE. I KNOW IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO HAVE FOR SOMEBODY TO HAVE OUR BACK ONE WAY OR THE OTHER, THAN YOU AND I WILL CALL UP EVERYBOD WHO IS HERE.

THANK YOU, JUDGE. >> PERFECT.

ANYONE ELSE? OTHERWISE WE'RE GOING TO COME U FOR A PICTURE FOR ANYONE WHO WANTS TO TAKE A PICTURE,

COMMISSIONER SMITH? >> THIS RESOLUTION HAS CHANGED TREMENDOUSLY OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS IN I THINK THAT WE HAV FINALLY FOUND SOMETHING I TRULY BELIEVE IN THE RIGHTS OF EVERY SINGLE INDIVIDUAL AND FROM A CONSTITUTIONAL END OF THE PERSONAL STANDPOINT, THIS RESOLUTION IS IMPORTANT TO A LARGE NUMBER OF OUR EMPLOYEES I I AM HAPPY TO SUPPORT IT TODAY.

>> COMMISSIONER? >> ECHOING MY COLLEAGUE, I VERY MUCH AGREE. I THINK THIS COURT HAS CONSISTENTLY SUPPORTED THE FAIR AND EQUAL TREATMENT OF EVERYBOD AND EVERYONE IN I WILL CONTINUE TO PUSH THAT FORWARD.

I THINK IT'S VERY APPARENT THAT THE COMMUNITY WENT THROUGH SOME TOUGH TIMES OF HARDSHIP, THE HOLD PRIDE MONTH WAS ESTABLISHE FROM THE STONE WALL FROM 1969 O JUNE 28TH, AND IT WAS OBVIOUSLY PUSH BACK AGAINST WE'RE CONSISTENTLY BEING DISCRIMINATE AGAINST FROM 57-60 YOU HAD OVER 1,000 PEOPLE THAT WERE BECAUSE OF THEM BEING POTENTIALLY YOU HAD OVER 420 PEOPLE THAT LOST THEIR NORMAL JOB FROM BEING POTENTIALLY GAY.

WE HAVE COME SUCH A LONG WAY I I CONTINUE TO PUSH THAT NARRATIVE THROUGH OF THE FAIR AND EQUAL TREATMENT OF EVERYONE.

[01:10:01]

I THINK THAT STILL HOLDS TRUE TODAY AND IT'S NOT JUST TODAY AND NOT JUST THIS WEEK OR MONTH BUT IT'S EVERY DAY, REGARDLESS OF OUR DIFFERENCES DIFFERENCES, WE ARE BETTER AND STRONGER WHEN WE VALUE EACH ONE'S DIGNITY IN OUR COMMUNITY.

THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. >> THANK YOU.

SHOWING UP IS WHAT MATTERS, WE CAN ALL HAVE THESE IDEAS IN THESE OPINIONS, BUT WHEN SOMEON NEEDS YOU AND YOU SHOW UP, I THINK THAT IS THE FROSTING ON THE CAKE, THE ICING ON THE CAKE.

I FEEL THAT WHEN WE AS COMMUNIT MEMBERS SHOW UP FOR ONE ANOTHER WHETHER IT BE JUNETEENTH, WHETHER IT BE CINCO DE MAYO, WHEN WE SHOW UP FOR ONE ANOTHER WHEN WE SEE AGAIN, SAME MESSAGE WHEN WE SEE EACH OTHER AS SOMEONE'S LOVE LENS TAKING PLAC AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL OR AS PLEASE COME UP EVERYONE WHO WANTS TO BE A PART OF THIS PICTURE.

ONE, TWO, THREE. ONE, TWO, THREE.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. PLEASE OPEN F5.

[F.5. Presentation by Samantha Martinez of the Texas General Land Office regarding assistance programs available to homeowners impacted by the 2024 disasters, including the Homeowner Assistance Program and Homeowner Reimbursement Program. BECERRA]

>> F5, THE PRESENTATION BY MARTINEZ OF THE GENERAL LAND OFFICE REGARDING HOMEOWNERS IMPACTED BY THE 2024 DISASTROUS INCLUDING THE HOMEOWNERS ASSISTANCE PROGRAM AND HOMEOWNER . WE HAVE A PRESENTATION THAT WIL BE SHARED FOR EVERYONE IN THE COURTROOM.

>> WHAT A GREAT LOGO BY THE WAY. I'VE ALWAYS LOVED THAT LOCAL.

FOR THE 2024 DISASTROUS. I AM GOING TO GIVE SOME BACKGROUND INFORMATION ON THE PROGRAM AND THEN I WILL FOLLOW UP WITH SOME ON ELIGIBILITY AND HOW THE HOMEOWNERS CAN APPLY.

EXCUSE ME. IN 2020 FOR THE STATE OF TEXAS FACED SOME MAJOR WEATHER EVENTS INCLUDING STRAIGHT-LINE OR WIND EVENTS AND TORNADO OUTBREAKS. IT WAS ISSUED AN ALLOCATED AMOUNT OF A LITTLE OVER 355 AND DISASTER RECOVERY FUNDING TO HELP THE RECOVERY OF THE STATE OF TEXAS.

THE TEXAS GENERAL WILLIAM OFFIC FOR THE HOMEOWNERS ASSISTANCE PROGRAM TO HELP REPAIR AND RECONSTRUCT SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES AND IN ADDITION TO THE PROGRAM WHICH IS THE HOMEOWNERS ASSISTANCE PROGRAM, THE TEXAS GENERAL LAND OFFICE AS PER THE HOMEOWNER REIMBURSEMENT PROGRAM FOR RHP TO PROVIDE ELIGIBLE APPLICANTS WITH REIMBURSEMENT FOR OUT-OF-POCKET HOME REPAIRS.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. THE HOMEOWNER ASSISTANCE AND HOMEOWNER RE- INSISTENCE PROGRAM .

IT IS LOCATED IN WHAT WE ARE CALLING ZONE FOR A.

HE SOUGHT MOST HEAVY WEATHER DURING THE DATE OF MAY 9TH 2024 FOR THE SPRINGS IN SURROUNDING AREAS STRONG WINDS AND HAIL OF HER 5 INCHES AND DIAMETER. THE GENERAL LAND OFFICE OFFERS TO PROGRAMS THAT HELP TEXANS RECOVER FROM THE 2024 EVENTS, ONE IS THE HOMEOWNER ASSISTANCE PROGRAM AND WHICH ELIGIBLE HOMEOWNERS CAN RECEIVE REPAIRS OR RECONSTRUCTIONS.

[01:15:02]

THE HOMEOWNER REIMBURSEMENT PROGRAM.

THE HOMEOWNER REIMBURSEMENT PROGRAM ON WHICH FELT ELIGIBLE HOMEOWNERS CAN BE REIMBURSED FO EXPENSES RELATED TO THE 2,021ST TERM SUCH AS REPAIR COSTS, FEES OR DEBRIS REMOVAL.

REIMBURSEMENT LIMITS ARE BETWEE 3,075,004 STICK BUILT HOMES AND BETWEEN $3,050,000 FOR MANUFACTURED HOUSING UNITS OR MOBILE HOMES AS THEY ARE SOMETIMES CALLED.

WHO IS ELIGIBLE? HOMEOWNERS WHO CAN PROVIDE PROO OF AT LEAST $8,000 IN INSPECTOR DAMAGE ARE ELIGIBLE FOR THE ASSISTANCE PROGRAM AND ELLIE APPLICANTS WHO CAN PROVIDE PROO OF $3,000 AND INSPECTED THEIR FIGHT DAMAGES ARE ELIGIBLE FOR THE HOMEOWNER REIMBURSEMENT PROGRAM.

HOMEOWNERS CAN APPLY FOR ONE PROGRAM, BUT THEY CANNOT APPLY FOR BOTH. THE PROGRAM REQUIRES THE APPLICANTS TO PROVIDE PROOF OF IDENTITY, PROOF OF LEGAL STATUS PROOF OF HOMEOWNERSHIP, PROOF A PRIMARY RESIDENCY AT THE TIME O THE DISASTER, MORTGAGE PAYMENT, CHILD SUPPORT, FLOOD.

AND PROOF OF PROPERTY TAX PAYMENTS.

WE HOPE THAT THE COMMUNITY COME SEE US TO APPLY, WE ARE LOCATED AT THE SATELLITE OFFICE AT THE CT COG OFFICE AND THEN WE HAVE ANOTHER LOCATION AT THE PUBLIC LIBRARY, WE JUST ADDED ADDITIONAL SATELLITE LOCATION A THE SAN MARCUS PUBLIC VIBRATE RATE YOU CAN COME SEE US FROM TENDERS MEANT TO.

WE DON'T HAVE THAT ON THE SLIDE SO I WILL REPEAT THAT, IT'S A SAN MARCUS LIBRARY FROM TEN JUDGMENT TO PERRY DON'T BE DISCOURAGED IF YOU DON'T SEE IS WHEN YOU WALK INTO.

WE ARE IN THE BLUE ROOM TOWARDS THE BACK OF THE LIBRARY, PLEASE WE ARE THEIR EVERY TUESDAY TEN JUDGMENT TO.

IF YOU CANNOT MAKE IT TO OUR OFFICE HOURS AT 10-2, FEEL FREE TO CALL US, OUR PHONE NUMBER IS (844)893-8937 OR YOU CAN VISIT OUR WEBSITE AT RECOVERY DOT, TEXAS.GOV APPLY IT YOU ARE WELCOME TO APPLY ONLINE, WE CAN WALK YOU THROUGH THE APPLICATION . ANY QUESTIONS, FEEL FREE TO CAL US, OR E-MAIL CDR AT RECOVERY TAUGHT TEXAS.ORG PARADE WE WANT TO HELP THOSE FOLKS THAT WERE AFFECTED BY THE 2024 DISASTROUS SO WE ENCOURAGE THE HOMEOWNERS TO COME APPLY AND IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS, WE WOULD LOVE TO INSERT THEM AND GET YOU GUYS TH

HELP YOU ALL NEED. >> BEAUTIFUL.

LET'S START WITH COMMISSIONER SMITH.

ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS? >> IT HAS BEEN A LONG TIME COMING RIGHT I JUST ENCOURAGE OUR RESIDENTS IF THEY HAD LOSSES , TO REACH OUT AND TRY TO PARTICIPATE.

ANOTHER PROCESS SEEMS SOMEWHAT COMPLICATED, BUT I'VE WORKED WITH HOMEOWNERS IN THE PAST AND THEY HAVE BEEN SUCCESSFUL WITH SOME OF THE PREVIOUS DISASTER S I WOULD JUST ENCOURAGE THEM TO

TAKE THE TIME. >> THANK YOU.

>> ECHOING COMMISSIONER SMITH, THINK PEOPLE SHOULD TAKE THE TIME IF THEY DO NEED ASSISTANCE TO USE THIS PROGRAM.

THANK YOU FOR PRESENTING IT. >> I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU FOR ALL OF THIS INFORMATION. I WROTE A LOT OF IT DOWN AND I APPRECIATE THAT YOU HAVE FELT LOCATION HERE IN SAN MARCUS WHERE IT IS MORE CONVENIENT FOR PEOPLE TO COME AND APPLY, SO THANK YOU, AND WE WILL. THE WORD.

>> THANK YOU. >> HAVE A WONDERFUL DAY.

>> I APPRECIATE YOU GUYS GIVEN ME THE TIME TO PRESENT.

I HAVE TO GO STAFF THE OFFICE HOURS SO I WILL BE THERE, PLEAS

[F.6. Presentation by the Hays County Judge's Office regarding the potential establishment of a Hays County Health District. BECERRA]

COME SEE ME. >> GREAT JOB.

>> PLEASE OPEN F6. >> F6, PRESENTATION BY THE HAYS COUNTY JUDGES OFFICE WITH THE POTENTIAL ESTABLISHMENT OF A

HAZE COUNTY HEALTH DISTRICT. >> THANK YOU, STATE YOUR NAME AND TITLE FOR THE VIEWING PUBLIC , YOU ARE NOT EXEMPT.

>> GOOD MORNING, I AM JACOB LON WITH THE JUDGE BECERRA OFFICE.

HERE'S A QUICK PRESENTATION ON SOME OF THE WORK WE'VE BEEN DOING ESTABLISHING A HAZE COUNT HEALTH DISTRICT TO MAXIMIZE OUR DOLLARS, OUR HEALTHCARE DOLLARS AND IMPROVE OUR HEALTH CARE.

A LITTLE DIFFERENT FROM SOMETHING LIKE PUBLIC HEALTH WHICH AT THIS DEPARTMENT DOES WHERE THEY COORDINATE HEALTHCAR ON A LARGE COMMUNITY BASIS. THIS IS MORE DIRECTED TOWARDS A INDIVIDUAL HEALTHCARE PROVIDER OR DOCTOR AND HEALTHCARE

[01:20:04]

THE REASON THAT WAS NECESSARY A THE STATE DID NOT CHOOSE TO ENGAGE WITH THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT ON A REIMBURSEMENT O THE STATE LEVEL FOR THE MEDICAI WAIVER.

INSTEAD, WE HAVE A FACILITY TO DO IT MORE REGIONALLY.

ALL THAT IS A GOOD FIRST STEP, THE NEXT LOGICAL STEP WOULD BE HEALTHCARE DISTRICT. CURRENTLY WE SPEND ABOUT $2 MILLION ON INDIGENT CARE AND THROUGH OUR PARTNERSHIPS THERE IS A LOT OF INDIGENT CARE, BUT ONE REPORT HAS THOSE TWO MISSIN AS MUCH AS $30 MILLION OVER A PERIOD OF TIME.

WE ALSO HAVE A GEOGRAPHICAL HEALTHCARE DISTRICT THIS FIRST LIGHT IS JUST WHAT WE HAVE CURRENTLY WHAT YOUR ELIGIBILITY IS, THIS IS ON OUR WEBSITE AND HOW YOU CAN PARTICIPATE IN OUR CURRENT INDIGENT CARE PROGRAM. NEXT LIGHT IF YOU DON'T MIND.

THIS IS ONE OF THE THINGS WE AR LOOKING AT FOR THOSE IN THE AUDIENCE IF YOU GUYS CAN SEE TH FIRST LITTLE BIT HERE.

IT'S NOT SHOWING ON THE TV. SORRY.

THE FIRST LITTLE BIT, THOSE ARE RARE MEDICAID GENERALLY STOPS O SLOWS DOWN. YOU CAN SEE THERE IS CONSIDERABLE, THIS MAP IS SHOWING MEDICAID COVERAGE, UNINSURED PEOPLE SO IT ISSUING TO JUST NOT HAVE INSURANCE.

YOU CAN SEE THE BOTTOM 21 PERCENT A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE HEALTHCARE COVERAGE FOR IT AND THEN OF COURSE ONCE WE SEE ONCE WE GET ABOVE THE 100 PERCENT LEVEL THERE IS OTHER MARKETPLAC SUBSIDIES THAT PEOPLE CAN PARTICIPATE IN AND THEN OF COURSE AS YOU INCREASE YOUR JOB PROVIDING, YOU ALSO HAVE A LOT MORE ACCESS TO HEALTHCARE. THAT GAP HERE IS BETWEEN THE 20 JUST MAKE 100 THOSE ARE THE MIDDLE CLASS FOLKS THAT ARE WORKING THEY CAN'T AFFORD HEALTHCARE, BUT THEY DON'T QUALIFY FOR THE TRULY LOW INCOM PROGRAMS AND THAT IS ONE OF THE MAJOR THINGS WE CAN DO AS A HEALTHCARE OR AS A COUNTY HEALT DISTRICT. NEXT PAGE?

>> JUST A QUICK QUESTION. SO, THAT GRAPH THAT YOU JUST

SHOWED. >> THE ONE BEFORE? TO POUR FOR SUBSIDIES? SO YOU CAN ACTUALLY BE TOO POOR FOR SUBSIDIES BECAUSE WITH THE INDIGENT, I KNOW IT'S EXTREMELY DIFFICULT TO QUALIFY BECAUSE YO CANNOT HARDLY HAVE ANYTHING, SO THAT JUST STRIKES ME A LITTLE ODD THAT YOU CAN BE TOO POOR.

>> EXPLAINED THAT LITTLE BETTER. >> AT A CERTAIN INCOME RANGE, 2 TO THOUSAND DOLLARS GIVE OR TAKE , I KNOW IT'S NOT EXACT, BUT YOU START BEING ABLE TO BE ELIGIBLE FOR A LOT OF SUBSIDIZE HEALTHCARE OR FREE HEALTHCARE O STRAIGHT UP MEDICAID ONCE YOU ARE BELOW A CERTAIN INCOME LEVEL , HEALTHCARE IS MORE AVAILABLE TO YOU. THE TWO-PART THING IF YOU ARE MAKING $0, YOU'RE STILL ELIGIBLE , THERE'S NOT A WAY TO GO BELOW THAT LINE. THEIR ACCESS TO THE SUBSIDIZED END OF THE PROGRAM STARTS REALL DROPPING OFF, THAT'S WHAT YOU HAVE A BIG JUMP TO ALMOST 80 PERCENT OF THIS GROUP OUT OF THE WHOLE POPULATION. IT HAS TROUBLE GETTING INSURANC UNDERINSURED ARE NOT INSURED AT ALL.

>> IF I WORDED THAT A LITTLE FAT , I APOLOGIZE.

>> DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEAS HOW MANY IN GENERAL FALL INTO THE

INDIVIDUAL INCOME BRACKET. >> THE INDIVIDUAL INCOME BRACKE IS PRETTY COMMENSURATE WITH THE POPULATION.

IT IS NOT A CONSIDERABLE. THE BIGGEST PERCENTAGE OF THE POPULATION REALLY IS IN FACT UNDER COVERAGE OR UNDERINSURED

[01:25:02]

THRESHOLD BUT BELOW 75,000. >> THE BIGGEST NUMBER THAT WOUL

QUALIFY? >> IT'S THE BIGGEST NUMBER OF UNINSURED'S FOR SURE HAVE ACCES TO MORE BENEFITS THROUGH THE

HEALTHCARE DISTRICT. >> I JUST WANT TO SUMMARIZE THIS , THIS MAP, WE ARE SAYING THIS IS IN GENERAL, THIS IS NOT HAYS COUNTY NUMBERS IN GENERAL, IF YOU'RE MAKING OVER 20 TO THOUSAND DOLLARS ALL THE WAY UP TO $100,000, YOU ARE MAKING TOO MUCH MONEY TO QUALIFY FOR MEDICAID, BUT YOU ALSO DON'T GE ANY TYPE OF SUBSIDIZED HEALTHCARE IN IT EATS MORE OF A

COVERAGE GAP. >> THE BIGGEST LIABILITY.

TAKE IT IT'S 100 PERCENT OF THE POVERTY.

>> HE JUST SAID IT WAS INCOME. >> IT'S BASED ON INCOME.

TO KEEP THESE PERCENTAGES OF $35,000.

>> I GOT YOUR. >> THE REASON THEY'RE NOT PUTTING A NUMBER ON THERE, THIS IS WHAT THEY USE SO DIFFERENT PARTS OF THE STATE HAVE DIFFERENT POVERTY LEVELS.

WE ARE IN THE MID- 30S OF WHERE OUR POVERTY LINE WOULD

STOP. >> SO THIS 20 JUST MIKE 100 IS 20 TO THOUSAND-45,000, IS THAT WHAT YOU ARE SAYING?

>> NO, 20 PERCENT OF $35,000. $7,000.

THAT WILL JUMP INTO OUR INDIGEN CARE.

WHERE TALKING ABOUT THE NUMBER OF DOLLARS HOW MUCH YOU MAY, YOU'RE AT 7,000 THE REASON WE I 20 TO THOUSAND.

THAT IS WHERE YOU ARE REALLY UNINSURED COMES FROM.

ON THIS LEVEL, WHAT WERE TALKIN ABOUT IS STRAIGHTFORWARD MEDICAID, 20 JUST MAKE A DEEP 100 PERCENT OF THE POVERTY LEVEL . SOME FEDERAL PROGRAMS WE ARE USING PERCENTAGE OF POVERTY. THERE ARE SEVERAL PROGRAMS YOU CAN FALL OFF AND SHE STARTED GETTING INTO THAT 20-$40,000 RANGE. NEXT SLIDE.

HERE ARE SOME OF THE FINANCIAL BENEFITS OF STARTING A HEALTHCARE DISTRICT. UP TO EIGHT OR 10 PERCENT, IT WOULD BE COMMENSURATE WITH THE GROUP GROWTH RATE WE WOULDN'T HAVE TO BE CONSTANTLY EXAMINING AND GIVING ARBITRARY NUMBER.

THAT RATE SHOULD INCREASE OUR TAX REVENUE FOR HEALTHCARE DOLLARS IN LINE COMMENSURATE WITH THAT BIRD THAT WILL ALSO PROVIDE US A MORE STABLE PREDICTIVE ENVIRONMENT.

MOST IMPORTANTLY, PROBABLY THE BIGGEST DRAW IS THAT WE WILL BE ABLE TO MAXIMIZE OUR MEDICAID DOLLARS FOR IT RIGHT NOW ARE GOING THROUGH DIFFERENT LAYERS, WE HAVE A REGION AND A POCKET, BUT BY ALL ACCOUNTS, DOING THAT DIRECTLY THROUGH A HEALTHCARE DISTRICT WOULD MAXIMIZE THE WAIVER THAT WE COULD GET MONEY BACK FRAID RIGHT NOW OUR MONEY IS DEPENDENT ON THE LOCAL SITUATION OR THE REGIONAL SITUATION OUR REIMBURSEMENTS WOULD BE STRAIGHT FO THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT NOT THAT THE WOULD BE UNLIMITED, BUT WE DON' HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT THAT FLUCTUATION AT THE REGIONAL AREA .

THE INFRASTRUCTURE IS SOMETHING THAT WE ARE NOW CURRENTLY ALLOWED TO SPEND MUCH MONEY ON WITH HEALTHCARE BECAUSE OF OUR REIMBURSEMENT WAIVERS DON'T COVER THINGS LIKE INFRASTRUCTURE . WITH A HEALTHCARE DISTRICT, WE CAN START BUILDING INFRASTRUCTURE CLINICS, SCREENING PROGRAMS, THINGS LIKE THAT THAT RIGHT NOW WE CAN'T REIMBURSE. THEY HAVE ACCESS TO THAT WE DON'T CURRENTLY HAVE NOW, ALSO, IF WE ARE PUTTING EVERYBODY UNDER A POOL, WE ARE LOOKING AT LOWER NEGOTIATED RATES AS OPPOSED TO DOING IT THE WAY WE ARE DOING IT, WHICH IS REALLY THE EMERGENCY ROOM METHOD. WE SPENT OVER $30,000 PER PATIENT PER YEAR ON OUR INDIGEN CARE.

[01:30:03]

THIS WAY, THROUGH OTHER CLINICS AND OTHER FEDERAL FEDERALLY APPROVED ORGANIZATIONS, WE HAVE PREVENTATIVE CARE, WE HAVE TREATMENT AHEAD OF TIME BEFORE WE GET SO CATASTROPHIC EVENTS WHICH IS MUCH MORE EXPENSIVE THAN GETTING PRESCRIPTION PILLS TO COVER THAT. OUR OTHER DEPARTMENTS THAT HAVE EXPOSURE TO COST. THE NEXT SLIDE.

THEN WE HAVE THE CLINICAL BENEFITS FOR THESE ARE HOLISTIC BENEFIT CARE PER DAY WILL HAVE SCREENINGS, THEY WILL HAVE A FILE. HYPERTENSION, DIABETES ARE VERY KEY FACTORS OR KEY ELEMENTS TO MORE DANGEROUS AND MORE COSTLY MEDICAL TREATMENTS AND OF COURSE , WE WILL HAVE AN INTEGRATED HEALTHCARE PROGRAM THAT RIGHT NOW IS A LITTLE LIMITED ON HOW WE CAN USE THOSE REIMBURSEMENT DOLLARS SO WE CAN HAVE AN INTEGRATED DENTAL HEALTH , HEALTH CARE PROGRAM AND MONEY IN ONE LUMP SUM AS REDOIN THROUGH THE REGIONAL MODEL.

THERE IS TO THAT THE COUNTY CAN DO, AND GET PETITION OF THE VOTERS THE COURT PUTS FORWARD INTO MOTION AND WE HAVE WE CAN ALSO INTERNED SEVERAL LOCAL AGREEMENTS, WE CAN GET IN THE LAYERED DIFFERENT GOOD OF GETTING THOSE CONTRACTS TOGETHER . HAS NO DIRECT AUTHORITY TO THE LEGISLATURE COULD PUT IT TOGETHER THROUGH STATUTE.

THIS WORK WILL BE BROUGHT FORWARD AND THE COMING WEEKS, SHOULD THE COURT CHOOSE TO PROCEED IS REALLY A THREE-PHASE PROGRAM WE CAN AUTHORIZE A FEASIBILITY STUDY.

WE NEED TO GET A HANDLE AND AN ASSESSMENT ON OUR CURRENT LIABILITIES WITH HEALTHCARE. THE BETTER SIDE OF THE INITIAL RATES, THE STAKEHOLDER COMMITTE IS ALSO A NECESSARY COMPONENT O IT. THEY WILL NEED THAT INFORMATION FROM THE FEASIBILITY STUDY TO SAY HERE IS OUR LEVY, HERE IS OUR COST AND THEN, ARE CIVIL ATTORNEYS WOULD DRAFT THE INTEN DOCUMENTS, THAT WOULD BE THE NEXT, THE THIRD STEP TWO PROCEEDING WITH CLEAN THE GROUNDWORK FOR THE HEALTHCARE

DISTRICT. >> PERFECT VERY THANK YOU.

ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? >> IT IS A LOTS OF INFORMATION TO ABSORB AND I GUESS WE NEED T CONTINUE HAVING DISCUSSIONS HAV YOU BEEN MEETING WITH THE STAKEHOLDERS OR IS THIS SOMETHING YOU SAY YOU NEED TO CREATE?

>> WE HAVE HAD SEVERAL MEETINGS. PART OF OUR INITIAL STAKEHOLDER MEETING TO GET INFORMAL INFORMATION, TO TAKE THE PULSE OF THAT COMMUNITY, BUT THIS WOULD BE A LITTLE MORE FORMAL STAKEHOLDER. THAT WOULD BE A LITTLE MORE

FORMALIZED BY THE COURT. >> JUDGE, I AM INTERESTED TO LEARN MORE ABOUT THE PROCESS AN WHAT THIS MEANS FOR HAYS COMPANY . IT'S A DIFFERENT DIRECTION, SO

THIS WILL CONTINUE TO DISCUSS. >> I KNOW IT SAYS FINANCIAL CONSULTANT TO AUDIT THE CURRENT HEALTHCARE, I WAS GOING TO SAVE YOU SHOULD SEND AND DO SOME DIGGING ON WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE FEASIBILITY WISE. WITH THE INCREASED RATE OF TAX OF OUR TAX RATE WOULD BE. AND GO AT THAT, BUT IT'S A GREA

FIRST LOOK AT IT. >> COMMISSIONER SMITH.

>> B HAVE TALKED ABOUT THIS SEVERAL TIMES OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS AND THE BIGGEST CONCERN I HAVE IS AT THE END OF THE DAY, OVER TWO DOZEN OF THESE STRUCTURED FACILITIES, BUT TWO DOZEN OF THESE FOLD IN THE STAT OF TEXAS.

[01:35:02]

IN GENERAL, THEY MAY NOT REFUSE SERVICE IF THEY ARE PROVIDING THOSE SERVICES, PARKLAND HAS HA A HARD TIME IN DALLAS BECAUSE REGIONALLY, THEY ARE THE HEALTHCARE PROVIDER FOR ALL OF THIS ROUNDED COUNTIES FOR ANYON WHO DOESN'T HAVE THE ABILITY THEY'RE PAYING FOR THE HEALTHCARE FOR THE CITIZENRY OF AN ENTIRE REGION. I HAVE REAL CONCERN OVER I THIN THE SYSTEM THAT WE HAVE CAN BE TWEAKED AND I'LL BE VERY INTERESTED IN LOOKING AT WHAT THOSE COUNTIES ARE LOOKING AT I THEIR INDIGENT HEALTHCARE. WHENEVER I SPEAK TO COMMISSIONERS FROM COUNTIES WHO HAVE PUBLIC FACILITIES AND HAVE THEY'RE OWN HEALTHCARE DISTRICT THEY CONSIDER THEM AN ALBATROSS BECAUSE ONE OF THE THINGS IF YO WOULD GO BACK TO THE PREVIOUS SLIDE, THE SLIDE WHERE IT TALKS ABOUT THE TWO OPTIONS THAT THE YOU DON'T HAVE TO PULL IT UP, BUT THE FIRST ONE, OPTION A, CHAPTER 286, HOSPITAL DISTRICTS THAT PUTS THE POWER IN THE HAND OF THE PUBLIC AND GIVES THEM TH OPPORTUNITY THROUGH VERY PUBLIC TO MAKE A DECISION AS TO WHETHE OR NOT THEY WANT A DEDICATED TA RATE TO SOMETHING SIMILAR TO THIS.

HAVE BEEN HURT AND OUTCRY FROM ANY OF MY CONSTITUENTS THAT THI IS SOMETHING THAT THEY ABSOLUTELY WANT TO PAY ADDITIONAL TAXES FOR. THE ADDITIONAL OPTION, THE HEALTH SERVICES DISTRICT WHERE YOU LOOK AT THOSE JOINT LOCAL AGREEMENTS WITH CITIES, THAT IS ANOTHER OPTION, BUT WHAT WASN'T STATED IS THAT IF AND WHEN RIGH NOW WE ARE LOOKING AT PROBABLY AN $8 MILLION DEFICITS COVING INTO THE TAXI OR, JUST FOR OUR UPDATED SALARY EXPENSES PROBABL TO IN A HALF MILLION UNDER OUR COLLECTIVE BARGAINING AGREEMENT THAT WILL BE TAKE PRECEDENCE OR IF WE WERE TO LOOK AT A CHAPTER 287 HEALTH SERVICES DISTRICT.

WITHIN OUR CURRENT TAX STRUCTUR TO PAY FOR THAT.

YOU SAID GENERALLY IT'S FROM THREE JUST MY 10 PERCENT, IT'S CAPPED AT 10 PERCENT I BELIEVE ALL DISTRICT SARCOMA AND BELIEV THE AVERAGE OF THE STATE IS OVE 8 CENTS.

IF WE HAD TO PAY FOR THAT OUT EVEN A PORTION OF THAT, SAY IT WITH OUR LOCAL MUNICIPALITIES, THE PAID TO THAT 8 CENTS, WE AR STILL LOOKING AT THAT WE WOULD HAVE EVER HAD SINCE I HAVE BEEN ON THE COURT. THE NUMBERS ARE WHAT SCARE ME I THE PUBLIC OUTCRY NEED FOR THIS IS WHAT SCARES ME.

THE ONE THING I HAVE TOLD VERY DISTINCTLY AS WE HAVE GOOD HEALTHCARE IN HAYS COUNTY. I REPRESENT, AND NOW COMMISSIONER HAMMER REPRESENTS SOME OF THE MOST REMOTE PARTS O THE COUNTY PAID FOR YEARS I REPRESENTED THE RESIDENTS WHO HAD TO TRAVEL FURTHER THAN ANYONE ELSE ON THE COUNTY.

>> HEALTHCARE PRIDE WE HAVE PEOPLE FROM OTHER PLACES THAT COME FURTHER HEALTHCARE. NOW, WE DO HAVE INSURANCE AND PAY FOR INSURANCE. WE PAY AN INCREASED RATE.

THANKFULLY BECAUSE OF OUR PARTNERSHIPS.

THEY MADE THAT DECISION IN WE GOT CLEAR DOES THAT THIS IS WHA THEY WANTED AND WORK TOWARDS THAT PROCESS TO HAVE AN ELECTIO

TO ESTABLISH. >> THANK YOU OFFER YOUR COMMENT RIGHT I WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS A FEW OF THOSE, COMMISSIONER SMITH . FIRST OF ALL, LOOPING IN MATHEW IS ABSOLUTELY PART OF THE CONVERSATION.

[01:40:02]

NOT COMPLETELY PROPERLY SERVED, BUT NOT THE EXCLUSIVE FOCUS HER THAT IS JUST ONE OF THE RACE WITHIN THE KALEIDOSCOPE.

AND THAT WE HAVE A GOOD HEALTHCARE SYSTEM HERE IN HAYS COUNTY, I'M GLAD THAT YOU THINK SO.

WHAT THIS WOULD DO IS OFFER OPPORTUNITIES TO MAKE IT BETTER.

PROVIDE OUR AGING POPULATION AR VETERAN POPULATION AN OPPORTUNITY TO SUPPORT SOMEONE LOCALLY THAT WON'T HAVE TO GO T ABILENE OR WACO OR SOMETHING FO MORE SPECIALIZED CARE.

THIS IS EIGHT YEARS LONG CONVERSATION V HAVE BEEN HAVING WITH STATEWIDE COUNTIES THAT HAVE BEEN EXCESSIVELY SUCCESSFU

WITH IT. >> THINK THE COMMISSIONER HAS GOOD POINTS WITH THE EFFORT ON WHAT'S COMING ON.

THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT ARE NOT NECESSARILY CONTRIBUTING TO THE REVENUE BUT ARE GETTING THAT HEALTHCARE.

THEY ARE AT THE FOREFRONT OF DEALING WITH SOME OF THOSE SO I THINK A LOT OF THESE QUESTIONS ARE THINGS THAT COULD BE WORKED OUT THEY HAVE ANNOUNCED THAT RIGHT NOW, AS OF TODAY THEY'VE GOT 76 FACILITIES THEY ARE WORRIED WON'T MAKE IT UNTIL THE END OF THE YEAR. THAT IS THE PATTERN, ALL OF THOSE WERE ESTABLISHED UNDER TH SAME PROCESS.

>> WHAT FACILITIES, CAN YOU CLARIFY, THAT THEY WON'T MAKE I

UNTIL THE END OF YEAR. >> THE STATE ASSOCIATION OF PUBLIC IN RURAL HOSPITALS HAS STATED THEY HAVE THAT ARE LUKE LYONS. IN PUBLIC FACILITIES MAINTAINED BY THE GOVERNMENT THAT MAY NOT MAKE IT UNTIL THE END OF YEAR.

>> COUNTY HOSPITALS IS WHAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO? RURAL HOSPITALS, NOT ONLY RURAL BUT COUNTY HOSPITALS.

THEY ARE DONE IN PARTNERSHIP WITH THEIR MUNICIPALITIES.

BECAUSE OF THE THERE HAS BEEN A LARGE NUMBER OF FAILURES, I CAN TELL YOU THAT WE'RE GLAD THAT SOME OF THOSE COUNTIES THINK THEY ARE RUNNING AND DOING SUCCESSFUL, BUT THAT WAS COUNTY SEVERAL YEARS AGO WAS BANKRUPT. IT WAS GOING TO INFRASTRUCTURE NEEDS AND THE ACTUAL DAY-TO-DAY HEALTHCARE NEEDS, THEY COULDN'T FIND WHO WAS GOING TO BANKRUPT THE COUNTY.

>> THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS, THOSE ARE VERY GOOD.

WHAT HE IS REFERRING TO IS WHAT I INTERPRET AS THE DEFUNDING OF RURAL HOSPITALS THAT WE ARE ALL WELL AWARE OF WHICH WOULD FURTHER SUPPORT A NEED FOR US T DO SOMETHING IN OUR SPACE.

I UNDERSTAND YOUR COMMENTS AND THIS IS THE BEGINNING OF A LONGER CONVERSATION. THANK YOU, JACOB FOR YOUR

[F.7. Update from the Budget Officer regarding the Fiscal Year 2027 Budget Process. BECERRA/WOODLAND]

[01:45:02]

PLEASE OPEN F7. >> F7.

UPDATE FOR THE BUDGET OFFICE, WITH THE BUDGET PROCESS.

>> SCOTT WOODLAND, BUDGET OFFICER.

ONCE AGAIN, WE ARE LOOKING TO BRING BRIEF BUDGET BUDGET UPDATES TO EACH COURT JUST TO KEEP THE COMMISSIONERS AND THE PUBLIC AWARE OF WHAT WE ARE WORKING ON AND WHERE WE'RE AT, WHERE WE'RE GOING, WHERE POTENTIAL GAPS COULD BE.

THE FOCUS FOR TODAY IS GOING TO BE ON OUR BOND FUNDED PROJECT SPRAYED MOST OF THOSE BEING CAPITAL WITH SOME OF THOSE ROAD PROJECTS AND THAT ARE OWNED AND MAINTAINED BY OUR PARTNERS, NOT BEING CAPITAL OF THE COUNTY, BU BEING SOMETHING THAT BENEFITS THE COMMUNITY. I WOULD LIKE TO SHOW ONE THING WANT TO POINT OUT, FIRST, IF YO WILL PULL UP THE HAYS COUNTY 2020 BOND COMMITMENT PROGRAMS, WOULD LIKE TO BRIEFLY GO OVER THIS,, THIS ISSUE IS TO KEEP AN REVIEW, I WOULD BE OPEN FOR ANY QUESTIONS OR THE FIRST THING I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT IS FROM OUR COMMITMENT FOR THESE PARK PONDS, WE HAVE COMMITTED APPROXIMATELY 80 TO MILLION, NOW , I APOLOGIZE, THAT 80 TO MILLION DOLLARS IS OUR PARK BON FUNDS.

WE HAVE COMMITTED ABOVE AND BEYOND THAT $116 MILLION, LEAVING US WITH A GAP TO FUND FROM OTHER FUNDING SOURCES.

THE MAIN THING IS WE HAVE ABOUT AN $18 MILLION GAP AS FAR AS WHAT WOULD NEED TO BE COVERED OUTSIDE OF BOND FUNDS.

WE HAVE ROUGHLY TO .85 MILLION THAT WILL BE COVERED BY THE 201 ROAD FARMS AND THAT IS TO STILL BE UTILIZED SO I WILL DISCUSS THAT ROAD BOND A LITTLE LATER WILL ME TALK ABOUT THE ROADS, BUT THAT IS COMMITTED FOR THAT PARKS PROJECT FOR THOSE TRAILS AND MULTIMODAL SYSTEMS THAT WER CREATED THERE.

HOWEVER I WOULD LIKE TO POINT T THE NEARLY $18 MILLION OF OTHER FUNDING THAT WE WILL NEED TO COME UP WITH.

THAT IS SOMETHING THE COUNTY WILL HAVE TO PROACTIVELY PLAN, THAT WOULD BE A BIG HIT TO TAKE AND WHEN YEAR, THE GOAL WOULD B TOO. OUT THAT OVER MULTIPLE YEARS OR TRY TO FIND OTHER FUNDING SOURCES OR GRANTS TO HELP COVER

THAT DIFFERENCE. >> THE 18 MILLION, I WANT TO MAKE SURE THE VIEWERS ARE FOLLOWING ALONG.

18 MILLION, BECAUSE YOU MENTIONED A FEW THINGS, PARKS, ROAD, BOND, SAY AGAIN WHAT THE 18 MILLION CRACKS.

>> WE HAVE APPROXIMATELY 80 TO MILLION DOLLARS IN THE PARK PONDS, WE HAVE ANOTHER WEEK COMMITTED MONEY FROM OUR FUNDS THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN SPONSORED , THAT IS ALSO PART OF THE SCHEDULE PRESENTED TO YOU. OUR 2016 ROAD BONDS, WE HAD $9.85 MILLION SET ASIDE FOR THE TRAILS AND ROADS HAVING TO DO WITH THE PARKS THAT WE ARE CONSTRUCTING GOOD THE FINAL PAR IS COMING FROM THE GENERAL FUND AND RESERVE SPRAYED NOW IF WE COULD GET SOME GRANT FUNDS OR SOME OTHER HELP FROM OTHER SOURCES, THAT WOULD BE GREAT, BUT RIGHT NOW THAT IS ESSENTIALLY A GAP THAT WOULD FALL TO THE GENERAL FUND AS OF RIGHT NOW IN ORDER TO COVER. THAT IS WHAT WE NEED TO PLAN FO AND OR THINK ABOUT DIFFERENT WAYS THAT WE CAN TAKE CARE OF

THAT AMOUNT. >> A PORTION OF THOSE FUNDS ARE ALSO THE ONES THAT WE DESIGNATE OUT OF EXISTING PROJECTS FOR TH SENTINEL PEAK PROJECT AS WELL. IS THAT CORRECT CRACKS.

>> I KNOW AT ONE POINT SOME FUNDS WERE REALLOCATED FROM OTHER PARK PROJECTS TO GO INTO SENTINEL PEAKS SINCE THAT WAS THE PROJECT THAT WAS REALLY COMING ALONG AND REALLY BADLY WANTED TO MAKE THE FLAGSHP. THAT HAS PUT US INTO A POSITION WHERE WE'VE HAD TO PROVE IT AND NOW WE ARE FIGURING OUT A WAY T

COVER THOSE FUNDS. >> WE ARE REPAYING THAT.

>> WHAT IS OUR TIMELINE? WHAT IS OUR RUNWAY CLICKS.

>> ON THESE PARK PROJECTS I'M THINKING ABOUT FOR YEARS SPRAYE THAT'S WHAT I WOULD PLAN FOR. WE ARE COMMUNICATING WITH THE PARTNERS IN MAKING SURE THAT EVERYONE IS ON BOARD AND THAT EVERYBODY CAN CAN FULFILL THEIR PART OF THE AGREEMENT.

>> AND IN THAT LANE I HAVE HAD NUMEROUS CONVERSATIONS WITH OUR CLOSEST NEIGHBOR, THE CITY OF CAEL THEY ARE ELECTED LEADERSHIP , AND THEY HAVE CONVEYED TO CONSISTENT CONCERN

[01:50:06]

THIS NOT HAVE TO BE FILL IN THE BLANK, ESPECIALLY WHEN CITY COUNCILS THAT HAVE ORIGINALLY UNDER DIFFERENT POLITICAL CLIMATE, A FINANCIAL CLIMATES, OR WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL IT HAD MADE THESE PLANS WHILE THINGS HAVE CHANGED AND THINGS ARE DIFFERENT, AND PEOPLE ARE LESS COMFORTABLE AND WE NEED TO STAY RECEPTIVE AND NOT SAY, AND MY OPINION, AT LEAST I WILL AND MY ROLE, VOTER APPROVED, WHERE DOING THIS NO MATTER WHAT, HERE COMES A BULLDOZER. KNOW, WE NEED TO STAY SENSITIVE AND RECEPTIVE, AND WHEN OUR NEIGHBORS, OUR PARTNERS, OTHER MUNICIPALITIES ARE NOW SAYING LET'S BE BETTER PHYSICAL STEWARDS AND LET'S PAUSE THIS TYPE OF INVESTMENT, THEN WE ARE

AUTOMATICALLY. >> THAT IS CORRECT.

WE ARE CONSTANTLY REALLOCATING THESE PROJECTS AND WORKING WITH

OUR PARTNERS TO PROCEED TO. >> THE OTHER THING I WOULD ADD IS THAT THE WAY THAT WE STRUCTURE THE DISBURSEMENT OF THE PARKS BOND FUNDS, WE PATTERNED IT AFTER THE PROGRAM THAT IS RUN BY TEXAS PARKS AND WILDLIFE AND THE WAY THAT THOSE PROGRAMS WORK, IT'S ON A REIMBURSEMENT BASIS.

EACH ONE OF THE PROJECTS THAT WERE IN THAT 2020 BOND, UNDER STATE LAW, WE HAVE A COMMITMENT THAT WE HAVE TO ADDRESS THOSE PROJECTS BECAUSE WE HAVE A CONTRACT WITH THE VOTERS.

SIMILARLY, I WOULD SAY I AGREE WITH JUDGE BECERRA THAT POSSIBL THE IMPLEMENTATION TIMELINE FOR THOSE PROJECTS IN THE CITY OF CAEL, AND THE CITY OF JUDAH, HOWEVER WHEN THEY DO THE ALLOCATION THE ORIGINAL REALLOCATION, THE VERY FIRST REALLOCATION, THOSE WERE BASED OFF OF THE SCORES THAT WE WERE RECEIVED FROM OUR ADVISORY COMMISSION.

A NUMBER OF THOSE WERE INCLUDED IN THE CITY OF CAEL BOND AND TH CITY OF BUTYL BOND. I WILL TELL YOU THAT SAVE ONE PROJECT, ALL OF THE PARTNER PROJECTS INCREASING FOR BECAUSE AS WE DID OUR LAST REALLOCATION I REACHED OUT TO BOTH THE CITY AND THE CITY OF BUTTE AND ASK THEM WHAT THEIR IMPLEMENTATION TIMELINE WOULD BE AND WHEN WE ANTICIPATED THEIR REQUEST FOR REIMBURSEMENT, THEY ARE TELLING ME WE SHOULD GET THOSE BEFORE THE END OF THE CALENDAR YEAR. FOR THOSE PROJECTS, AGAIN, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE--WITH THE EXCEPTION OF ONE PROJECT IN DRIPPING SPRINGS, THE TOWN CENTER PROJECT, I BELIEVE THAT AT LEAST WITH THOSE MUNICIPALITIES, THOSE WILL BE CLOSED OUT BEFORE THE END OF TH CALENDAR YEAR.

THE TRAILS, THOSE MIGHT TAKE DECADES BECAUSE THOSE OUTSIDE PARTNERS DON'T OPERATE IN THE SAME WAY THAT MUNICIPALITIES DO.

>> THANK YOU. >> I HAVE ONE QUESTION.

TWO WE BELIEVE THAT WE WILL HAV ANY KIND OF SAVINGS ON THE ALLOCATION ON SENTINEL PEAK, OR DO WE FEEL THAT THOSE WILL

TOTALLY BE SPENT CRACKS. >> BUILT INTO THE SENTINEL PEAK NUMBER IS SOME CONTINGENCY WHIC RIGHT NOW I BELIEVE THEY ARE SAYING THAT THEY'RE NOT GOING T UTILIZE ALL OF IT SO THERE MAY BE SAVINGS THERE, BUT WE BUDGETED FOR THE FULL AMOUNT JUST BECAUSE SOMETHING COULD COME UP AND WE DIDN'T WANT TO B LEFT AND A SITUATION WHERE WE DIDN'T HAVE THAT AVAILABLE.

THAT CONTINGENCY IS WRITTEN INT THE CONTRACT AS WELL.

>> AND WE VOTED ON A GUARANTEED MAXIMIZE PRICE, SO IT WON'T GO ABOVE THAT WE DO HAVE THAT CMR WHICH IS A RISK MANAGER.

>> I KNOW SENTINEL PEAK WAS IMPORTANT TO ALL OF US AND IF

[01:55:04]

>> IF THERE IS NO MORE QUESTION ON THE PART FUND WE CAN MOVE ONTO THE $100 BILLION CERTIFICATES OF OBLIGATION THAT IS OUR VERTICAL CEOS AS WE COMMONLY REFER TO THEM AS.

>> SORRY TO DO THIS TO YOU, BUT A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T KNOW WHAT

CO STAND FOR. >> CERTIFICATES OF OBLIGATION, THANK YOU, JUDGE. SO THIS IS THE OUTLINE OF THE PROJECTS, AND IF YOU TURN TO TH BACK PAGE, THAT IS WHAT WE ACTUALLY PUT IN FOR COURT FOR OUR PROJECTS.

THOUGH ONE PROJECT THAT WE HAVE WORKING ON CURRENTLY WOULD BE THE EASTSIDE CAMPUS PROJECT AND YOU CAN SEE THE ESTIMATED COST THERE AS WELL AS THE CONTRACTS THAT THEY HAVE IN OUR CURRENT EXPENDITURES. THE OTHER PROJECTS THAT ARE STILL IN THE PLANNING PHASES AR THE ANIMAL SERVICES FACILITY, THE PRECINCT FOUR, THIS WAS BASED ON THE LAND AND BUILDING ACQUISITION BUT THAT MAY BE A LITTLE DIFFERENT, SO THAT PRICE WAS BASED OFF THAT, AND THEN TH HAYS COUNTY GOVERNMENT CENTER REMODEL, THAT IS A PURPOSELY LEFT TO BE ALL-ENCOMPASSING TO GIVE THE COUNTY AS MANY OPTIONS AS POSSIBLE ON THAT REMODEL BRIGHT IT'S A MATTER OF MAKING SURE THAT ANY KIND OF COST THAT WE INCUR WITH THE COSTS ARE BEING USED FOR CAPITAL IN PERMANENT COSTS SO THAT THEY QUALIFIED TO BE SPENT WITH BONDS , THAT IS SOMETHING WE WOULD WORK WITH BOND COUNSEL ON ANY OF THESE EXPENDITURES. LASTLY IT'S THE PRECINCT FIVE BUILDING. THE ONE THING I WANT TO MAKE NOTE OF THESE IS THAT A LOT OF THESE PROJECTS ARE STILL IN THE PLANNING PHASE, BUT IT'S IMPORTANT FOR THE COUNTY TO MOV FAIRLY QUICKLY ON THEM BECAUSE WE DO WANT TO SPEND 85 PERCENT OF THE 100 MILLION DOLLAR PROCEEDS WITHIN THREE YEARS DUE TO THESE CERTIFICATES OF OBLIGATION REQUIREMENTS.

DON'T CALL YOURSELF A CHEAPSKATE .

IS LIKE OKAY, FINE, WHEN YOU'RE AROUND LITTLE KIDS, YOU DON'T WANT TO SAY THINGS THAT COULD B A NEGATIVE IMPRESSION FOR THEM.

I AM A POLITICALLY CORRECT FISCAL CONSERVATIVE.

WHY I AM A FISCAL CONSERVATIVE AND I WILL FOREVER BE A FISCAL CONSERVATIVE IS BECAUSE I KNOW WHAT IT'S LIKE TO BE BROKE.

I KNOW WHAT IT'S LIKE TO HAVE A HARD TIME PAYING YOUR LIGHT BILL . I WILL ALWAYS SEE THE WORLD THROUGH THAT LENS. I FIND VALUE IN SO MUCH AFRAID TO ROLL IT BACK A BIT FOR THE VIEWING PUBLIC FOR THE CERTIFICATE YOU ARE REFERENCING BECAUSE WE HAVE GREAT CREDIT AS GOOD LONG-STANDING FISCAL OPERATORS.

IT'S NOT OUR. IS THE PEOPLE OF HAYS COUNTY.

WE HAVE A MAGNIFICENT CREDIT RATING AND IT HAS INCREASED ON HIGHEST CREDIT RATING AVAILABLE BUT JUST KNOW THAT FOR THAT REASON, WE WERE ABLE TO WRITE A CHECK BASICALLY COME UP A LOT O DIFFERENT CREDIT CARD, HOWEVER YOU WANT TO THINK ABOUT AND PUL OUT $100 MILLION TO BE SPENT WITH YOUR PERMISSION, I MIGHT SAY. BUT, NO, YOU DIDN'T VOTE FOR THAT. DIDN'T GET YOUR APPROVAL AND WE DID NOT TAKE IT TO THE VOTERS. WE PUT THAT OUT THERE FOR NO ONE 'S OPINION AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU UNDERSTAND THAT.

SO WHEN SOMEONE SAYS WE HAVE TO MOVE QUICKLY AND IT WASN'T VOTE APPROVED, JUST ONE MAKE SURE THAT FOLKS AREN'T MIXED UP AND AM FOR PRODUCTIVE DEVELOPMENT I AM FOR EFFICIENCIES BECAUSE I A FOR ALL THESE THINGS AND NINE TIMES OUT OF TEN EYES SUPPORT THESE THINGS BUT AS YOU COUNTY KEEPS SHIFTING IN THEIR QUALITY OF LIFE KEEPS DIMINISHING AND ACCESS TO MINNIS -- TOO MANY THINGS KEEPS SHRINKING STATE OF CARMOUCHE'S IS CLOSE, WE CAN GO A LIST OF ALL THE DIFFERENT THINGS GOING ON NOW THAT WERE CREATED WHEN THIS LIS WAS ESTABLISHED.

I CONTINUE TO SUPPORT OTHER ELECTED OFFICIALS THROUGHOUT TH COUNTY THAT SAY WHOA. AND EVEN FURTHER, I KNOW THE PAPER CAN VERY OFTEN GET IT WRONG AND I WON'T SAY WHICH ONE BUT THEY SAID HAYS COUNTY RESIDENTS DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT, FOR EXAMPLE, THE EAST CAMPUS, THE ONE THAT IS CLOSE T HIGHWAY 35 ON A FRONTAGE ROAD. YOU DON'T HAVE TO BREED ABOUT I

[02:00:03]

SO WHAT THEY WERE TRYING TO SAY IT'S INACCURATE.

WE HAD IT IN OUR OVERALL CIP, AND CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, 14 PROJECTS, 12 PROJECTS, SOMETHIN LIKE THAT.

AND THOSE FOR PROJECTS IDENTIFIED BY BOTH OUR SERVICE PROVIDERS AND OUR DIRECTORS AND THE AS NEEDED PROJECTS ALONG WITH US COMMISSIONERS AND OTHER ELECTED OFFICIALS.

NONE OF HAPPEN TO KNOW THE NEED THAT ARE PRESENTED IN THE PRECINCTS BUT WITHIN THOSE VARIOUS OFFICES AND EVERYONE FROM THE COUNTY CLERK TO ALL TH CONSTABLES.

I WILL SAY THAT THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN, IT IS THE FIRST FROM THE COUNTY HAS DONE AND THAT NEEDS TO BE WHAT IS CALLED LIVING DOCUMENT AND IT NEEDS TO BE A DOCUMENT THAT IS UPDATED EVERY COUPLE OF YEARS BECAUSE WE KNOW THOSE THINGS CHANGE ON A VERY REGULAR BASIS. ESPECIALLY GIVEN POPULATION THA WE GOT THAT BEING THE CASE, THESE OTHER PROJECTS THAT WERE CALLED OUT FIRST BUT IF YOU LOO AT THOSE PROJECTS IN THE ENTIRETY, ALL OF THEM COMING YO ARE PROBABLY TALKING 350-400 MAIN DOLLARS WITH THE ESTIMATE. AND I DON'T DOUBT THAT IT WILL BE AFTER I'M OUT OF OFFICE HERE THAT OF FUTURE FOLKS ARE GOING TO HAVE TO DO AN EVALUATION AND I ALSO BOUGHT THE GENERAL PUBLI TO UNDERSTAND AND KNOW THIS IS JUST THE START OF A LARGE PROGRAM AT THE END OF THE DAY I NOTHING IS GETTING CHEAPER AND THE LONGER WE DELAY THESE PROJECTS, THE MORE AND MORE MONEY IT COSTS. I'VE HEARD ESTIMATES THAT ONE O OUR MUNICIPALITIES HERE, WHATEVER THEY DID, BONDS AND THEY OVERCHARGED INPUT MEANS IS THEY BORROWED TOO MUCH MONEY TO QUICKLY AND WE THANKFULLY HAVE NOT DONE THAT WE'VE GIVEN OURSELVES THE OPPORTUNITY TO BORROW THAT MONEY BUT WE HAVE NOT BORROWED IT AND BUY OVER BORROWING ON THE FRONT END, THE COST IS 20-30,000 A DAY AND IT' MUCH MORE THAN WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT HERE BUT NEVERTHELESS I WOULD JUST ENCOURAGE THAT WHILE THIS IS WHAT WE HAVE PLANNED, THIS IS NOT WHAT WE BORROWED. WE HAVE THE ABIITY TO DO THIS AND IT IS LIKE HAVING A CREDIT CARD AND NOT USING IT.

YOU DON'T PAY THAT MONTHLY BILL FOR INTEREST UNTIL WE HAVE TO USE IT SO WHILE I UNDERSTAND WE HAVE TO DO 85% OF THIS IN THREE YEARS, I ALSO WANT TO DO THOSE IN MEANINGFUL WAYS.

EXACTLY BRIGHT. WE AGREE ON THAT FRONT WE DON'T WANT TO MISLEAD THE PUBLIC ON ACCIDENT BECAUSE I BELIEVE PEOPLE ARE INTRINSICALLY GOOD AND I ALWAYS TAKE THE HIGH ROAD.

WE DON'T WANT TO MISLEAD THE PUBLIC TO THINK WE HAVE A 100 MAIN DOLLARS CHECK AND WE ARE GOING TO GO CASH IT AND TOO BAD YOU'RE GOING TO PAY THE BILL WHETHER YOU LIKE IT OR NOT BECAUSE WE DID NOT ASK YOU PARENTS SO IT IS VERY IMPORTANT THAT THE PUBLIC HEARS THIS LOUD AND CLEAR.

WE HAVE NOW COMMITTED AND AS TH COMMISSIONER JUST SAID, WE HAVEN'T BORROWED IT. COURSE NOTHING IS GETTING CHEAPER, ABSOLUTELY NO DOUBT BU IT DOESN'T MEAN TO SADDLE OURSELVES AT THE TIME WITH MUCH UNCERTAINTY ALL OF THIS WISH

[02:05:01]

>> REAL QUICK, I WILL MAKE THIS FAST WE'RE THIS IS MAINLY FOR YOUR INFORMATION SO YOU CAN SEE THE PROJECTS AND WHERE THEY ARE AT AND I WANT TO SAY THE 2016 ROAD BOND, THEY'RE MOSTLY SPENT AND I ALLUDED TO IT WITH THE PARK BOND AND THERE WAS A COMMITMENT AND THE PARK BOND FO THE PROJECT THAT WE NEED TO PRESERVE ON THOSE BONDS. AND THEN THE REST IS PROBABLY GOING TO BE UTILIZED IN SOME RIGHT-OF-WAY PROPERTIES.

WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT IS GOIN TO TURN TO SO LET'S SET ASIDE

THAT MONEY UNTIL WE KNOW THAT. >> AND A NUMBER OF THOSE PROJECTS, THE RIGHT-OF-WAY IS STILL BEING LITIGATED THAT I THINK THAT IS THE QUESTION. SO HAVING THAT HELD IN RESERVE

IS THE RIGHT THING TO DO. >> I'VE GOT TO ADMIT THAT THEY DON'T AGREE BUT THERE'S ONE MOR SPACE WHERE I HAVE A FOLLOWING THAT PROCESS IT SO SINCE YOU BROUGHT THIS UP, I WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT I HAD A MEETING WITH THE COMMUNITY IN REORGANIZING W HAVE NOT SPENT THE MONEY AND IT IS NEVER TOO LATE IS ALL I'M SAYING. IT IS NEVER TOO LATE PICK THIS GOING TO BE SOMETHING THAT CARL BRINGS BACK FOR US TO REEVALUAT THE OVERALL ROADMAP AND I JUST WANT THE COMMUNITY TO KNOW THER IS ALWAYS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR YOUR FEEDBACK AND THERE'S ALWAY A WINDOW THAT IS IMPORTANT AND THAT IS WHY THE CAMERA SYSTEM THAT EVERYONE IS HIM -- IS POINTING TO, LISTEN TO PEOPLE , ENGAGE BECAUSE YOU HAVE A VOICE ALL THE WAY UNTIL THE END. AND ONE FINAL NOTE ON THE CERTIFICATE OF OBLIGATION AGENT TB DID PLAN FOR EXPENDITURES, WHICH I BELIEVE THAT IS WHAT WE COULD HAVE ISSUES AND REAL LIMI ISSUED 200 MILLION. THERE IS A DIFFERENCE THERE BETWEEN WHAT HAS BEEN PLANNED AND WHAT WE HAVE FUNDED IT WE JUST WANT THE PUBLIC TO KNOW THAT AT SOME POINT WILL HAVE TO DETERMINE WHETHER WE WANT TO CONTINUE THOSE PROJECTS.

>> I WAS ASKED FOR A 15 MINUTE BREAK.

IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE? >> I JUST WANT TO SAY WE'VE ALS BEEN VERY SUCCESSFUL AND I'VE GOT AT LEAST TWO PROJECTS THAT ARE PARTIALLY FUNDED THROUGH GRANTS AND I KNOW THAT THE LEAD COMMISSIONER, COMMISSIONER HAMMER HAS ONE.

SO THOSE PARTNERSHIPS WHERE WE CAN GET STATE AND FEDERAL CONTRIBUTIONS, THOSE ARE TOP PRIORITIES.

I GET. WERE GOING TO TAKE A 15 MINUTE RE WE ARE BACK FROM THE RECESS AND HERE'S THE NEXT SEQUENCE BID WE WILL OPEN IN K3MK 1 AND K13 IN

[K.3. Discussion and possible action regarding a Resolution relating to a public hearing and approving tax-exempt financing in the maximum aggregate principal amount of $180,000,000 by the National Finance Authority for the benefit of Public-Private Development Corporation, a Texas non-profit, to finance the acquisition, design, construction and equipping of single-family housing development and related amenities located at 10745 Camino Real, Uhland, TX 78640 for the use and benefit of Hays Consolidated Independent School District. BECERRA]

THAT ORDER. >> DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION REGARDING OUR LAST SOLUTION RELATED A PUBLIC HEARING RELATED TO FINANCING AN THE MAXIMUM AGGREGATE PRINCIPAL OF $180 MILLION BY THE NATIONAL FINANCE AUTHORITY FOR THE BENEFIT OF PUBLIC-PRIVATE DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION, A TEXA NONPROFIT TO FINANCE THE ACQUISITION, DESIGN, CONSTRUCTION, AND EQUIPPING OF SINGLE-FAMILY HOUSING DEVELOPMENT AND RELATED AMENITIES LOCATED AT 10745 CAMINO REAL, AND CONSOLIDATED INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICT.

WE HAVE A MOTION AND SUCK COMPARED WHAT IS THE ISSUE OF LIGHT ON THE PART THAT PARTICULAR ISSUE PART PRETTY IF YOU APPROACH THE PODIUM AND GIV A TITLE.

I AM ACTING AS COUNSEL. AS YOU KNOW, CERTAIN CAPITAL

[02:10:01]

>> COMMISSIONER, ANY QUESTIONS BUT I DON'T THINK SO.

THEY HAVE A HOUSING SHORTAGE AN THEY HAVE ENTERED INTO AN AGREEMENT. ON AND THERE'S PROPERTY THAT IS CURRENTLY OWNED BY THE DISTRICT. IN THE PROPERTY WILL BE DEVELOPED INTO SINGLE-FAMILY FEATURE SO THAT WILL BE A HUGE

BENEFIT TO THE DISTRICT. >> I WANTED THE GENERAL PUBLIC TO HAVE AN UNDERSTANDING OF HOW WE DO THIS FOR A NONPROFIT WE DON'T DO THIS IN GENERAL BECAUS WE ARE TALKING ABOUT ELEVATING ATTACKS AND TAKING SOMETHING AWAY FROM OUR TAX BASE AND MAYB NOT IN A DIRECT WAY BUT IN A MINUSCULE WAY AND THEY WOULD HAVE TO MAKE UP FOR WHATEVER SERVICES ARE THEY ARE.

BUT THIS IS A VERY SPECIAL CASE AND I THINK IT IS VERY NEEDED.

IT IS WELL BROUGHT FORTH. >> AND THEY ARE DEFINITELY, THERE WILL BE NEW STUDENTS IN THE DISTRICT AND THERE ARE OTHE WAYS WHERE THERE ARE ADVANTAGES BUT THE PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY OWNED AND IT IS NOT BEING TAKEN OFF THE ROLL.

>> THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER'S. PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

[K.1. Discussion and possible action to approve a Resolution of the Hays County Commissioners Court establishing a 180-day Temporary Emergency Water Protection Review period and corresponding temporary suspension of evaluation, processing, and approval for high-water-use and large-scale industrial projects in unincorporated Hays County; directing the Office of Emergency Management and County Legal Counsel to identify lawful tools under the Governor's active Drought Disaster Proclamation; calling for a joint regional environmental review; formally petitioning the Governor of Texas for a Special Legislative Session to increase County authority to protect groundwater resources and regulate the water impacts of high-water-use projects; and authorizing the creation of the Hays County Water Advisory Task Force. BECERRA]

>> DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO APPROVE A RESOLUTION OF THE HAYS COUNTY COMMISSIONER COURT ESTABLISHING A 180 DAY TEMPORARY EMERGENCY WATER PROTECTION REVIEW.

BACK AND CORRESPONDING TEMPORAR SUSPENSION OF EVALUATION, PROCESSING, AND APPROVAL FOR HIGH WATER USE AND LARGE-SCALE INDUSTRIAL PROJECTS IN UNINCORPORATED HAYS COUNTY DIRECTING THE OFFICE OF MANAGEMENT AND COUNTY LEGAL COUNSEL TO IDENTIFY TOOLS UNDER THE GOVERNORS ACTIVE THROUGHOUT DISASTER PROCLAMATION, CALLING FOR A JOINT REGIONAL ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW, FORMALLY PETITIONING THE GOVERNOR OF TEXAS FOR A SPECIAL LEGISLATIVE SESSION TO INCREASE-INCREASE COUNTY AUTHORITY TO PROTECT GROUNDWATER RESOURCES AND REGULATE THE WATER IMPACTS OF HIGH WATER USE PROJECTS AND AUTHORIZING THE CREATION OF DAY COUNTY WATER ADVISORY TAX FOR.

>> MOTION. >> THAT COMPUTERS.

>> WOULD YOU DO ME A FAVOR. THOSE THAT SIGN UP TO SPEAK --

>> THERE ARE TWO. LET'S GO IN THAT ORDER.

>> MATTHEW GARRISON. A LOT OF YOU MAY KNOW ME AS JUDGE SUMTER BUT I'M HERE TO SPEAK ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR ITE BECAUSE I THINK IT IS TIME THAT THE COURT STAND UP TOGETHER AND BE WITH THE CITIZENS OF THIS PARTICULAR COUNTY.

THE PEOPLE HERE REALLY ARE SUFFERING IN TERMS OF THEIR WATER USAGE IN THEY ARE CONSERVING IS MUCH AS THEY CANNOT WE ARE LOSING WATER EVER DAY AND OUR DEVELOPMENT AND OUR AQUIFERS ARE BEING STRESSED. THERE'S MANY REASONS THAT THE PAUSE IS NECESSARY. I WAS WORKING AND WE WORK TOGETHER ON THIS COURT AND WE TOOK RISKS FOR OUR WATER SYSTEM BUT RECEIVED DEVELOPERS AND WE WERE PART OF PROTESTS FOR PERMITS. WE DID ALL KINDS OF THINGS.

WE WORK TO PRESERVE OUR AQUIFER THAT I THINK IT IS TIME WE ALL BEGAN TO STEP FORWARD AGAIN AND DO THESE THINGS THAT ARE NECESSARY. A PAUSE IS NOT GOING TO HURT

[02:15:01]

THEY'VE DONE EXACTLY THESE THINGS, STANDING UP WITH OUR OTHER COUNTIES WILL ONLY STRENGTHEN OUR ABILITY AND MOVE THEM FORWARD. SO I AM IN FAVOR OF THIS.

THIS IS CERTAINLY SOMETHING THA WE CAN DO AND CERTAINLY STAND TOGETHER WITH OUR CITIZENS OF THIS COUNTY.

THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU.

[APPLAUSE] >> ARE NEXT SPEAKER.

>> LAURA LONG. >> I AM WRITING IN SUPPOR OF AGENDA ITEM K 1 OF THE WATER PROTECTION REVIEW.

AS A LICENSED PROFESSIONAL COUNSELOR PRACTICING IN WESTERN HAYS COUNTY I WORK WITH INDIVIDUALS AND FAMILIES NAVIGATING FINANCIAL STRAIN AND CUMULATIVE STRESSORS THAT AFFEC COMMUNITIES WELL-BEING. WATER AVAILABILITY IS NOT SIMPL AN INFRASTRUCTURE DEVELOPMENT ISSUE CONCERNS ABOUT WATER, GROUNDWATER DEFLATION, DROUGHT CONDITIONS AND RISING UTILITY COSTS HAVE IMPACTS ON HOUSEHOLD STABILITY, ECONOMIC SECURITY AN QUALITY OF LIFE. RECENT CONDITIONS UNDERSCORE WH THIS ISSUE DESERVES SERIOUS ATTENTION ACCORDING TO THE USGS GAUGE, THE RIVER ANNUAL MEAN FLOW DURING THE LAST THREE COMPLETED WATER YEARS RANGE FRO APPROXIMATELY EIGHT TEST 12 CUBIC FEET A SECOND COMPARED TO THE LONG-TERM AVERAGE OF APPROXIMATELY 135 CUBIC FEET A SECOND AND IN THE SAME.

MATT, THEY'VE CEASED FLOWING AN WHETHER YOU SEE THESE AS A RESULT OF DROUGHT, INCREASING DEMAND OR A COMBINATION OF FACTORS, IT DEMANDS STEWARDSHIP OF OUR RESOURCES THAT I SUPPORT EFFORTS TO EVALUATE AVAILABLE TOOLS UNDER THE GOVERNOR'S DROUGHT DISASTER PROCLAMATION WITH THE EXPANDED AUTHORITY WER NEEDED AND ESTABLISH A WATER ADVISORY TASK FORCE TO HELP GUIDE LONG-TERM PLANNING. DIDN'T THINK TO ASK IS WHETHER CURRENT POLICIES ADEQUATELY PROTECT HAYS COUNTY WATER RESOURCES A PRUDENT AND RESPONSIBLE RESPONSE TO CURRENT CONDITIONS BUT I WOULD ALSO RESPECTFULLY ASK THE COURT TO ADDRESS HOW AGENDA ITEM K13, TH PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT RELATES TO CONCERNS AND UNDERLYING K 1 AND IF THE COURT DETERMINES ITS CURRENTLY WARRANTED AS EMERGENCY REVIEW PERIOD, MAJOR WATER USE PROJECTS , REQUIRES AN

>> PROPERTY RIGHTS A LONG TERM WATER STABILITY CONSIDER THROUG CONSISTENT AND TRANSPARENT PROCESS.

WATER IS -- AND I URGE THE COURT TO ADOPT ITEM K 1 AND CLEARLY COMMUNICATE HOW IT WILL BE APPLIED TO MAJOR DEVELOPMENT CONDITIONS BUT ARE THANK YOU FO

YOUR CONSIDERATION. >> ONE MORE WRITTEN END.

>> ALLISON ROMANO. WATER IS A PRECIOUS RESOURCE THAT IS FAST BECOMING SACRED IN OUR COUNTY AND THE TABLES BELOW.

COURTESY OF HAYS COUNTY PRESIDENT LAURA LONG CLEARLY ILLUSTRATE THE CONTINUED LIFE O HUMAN BEINGS IN ALMOST EVERY LIVING BEING ON THE PLANET DEPEND ON WATER.

WE STAND AT A CRITICAL MOMENT UNLESS WE SLOW CHANCE TO CHANGE.

OR AT LEAST SLOW THIS TRAJECTORY .

PRESIDENTS OF COUNTY NEED YOU T ACT IN OUR BEST INTEREST.

PLEASE DO NOT BE PRESSURED BY INDUSTRIES THAT PUT PROFIT OVER LIFE ITSELF AND VOTE IN FAVOR O ITEM K 1.

>> PERFECT. AND FOR THE VIEWING PUBLIC, I KNOW IT IS A LITTLE BIT LENGTHY. BUT WOULD YOU MIND READING IT S WE KNOW WE ARE TALKING ABOUT, ROXANNE.

THANK YOU. PLEASE READ IT.

>> ESTABLISHING A TEMPORARY EMERGENCY WATER PROTECTION REVIEW, ESTABLISH THE HIGH WATE DEMAND DEVELOPMENT REVIEW BOARD.

WHEREAS HAYS COUNTY IS EXPERIENCING LONG AND SEVERE DROUGHT CONDITIONS WITH DANGEROUS WALKER FOR LEVELS AND THE ONGOING DROUGHT THREATENS THE PUBLIC HEALTH AND WELL HER OF RESIDENTS RESIDENCE BY REDUCING THE RESPONSE BURDEN AN COMPROMISING ESSENTIAL FIRE NEEDS.

[02:20:03]

WHEREAS, THE COMMISSIONERS COUR SEEKS TO EVALUATE AND MOLLY'S IMPACTS TO DISCOVER LAWFUL AND HEALTHY STANDARDS WITHOUT IMPLEMENTING COUNTYWIDE ZONING. AND SIMILAR COMPUTING FACILITIE CONSTITUTES ONLY ONE COMPONENT FOR THE TOTAL DEMANDS ASSOCIATE WITH SUCH PROJECTS. AND A SUBSTANTIAL REQUIRED TO OPERATE THE FACILITIES AND HOLE ADDITIONAL STRAIN UNAVAILABLE WATER SUPPLIES AND COSTS OF THE WATER ENERGY MIXES.

INCLUDING WATER USED IN ELECTRI GENERATION AND RELATED INFRASTRUCTURE SERVING THOSE DEMANDS PAID FOR IS ARTICLE 16 SECTION 59 OF THE TEXAS CONSTITUTION DECLARES THE CONSERVATION AND PRESERVATION O THE STATES WATER AND NATURAL RESOURCES TO BE PUBLIC RIGHTS AND DUTIES THEN FURTHER PROVIDE THAT THE LEGISLATURE HAS A RESPONSIBILITY TO PASS ALL SUCH LAWS TO PROTECT THESE RIGHTS. EFFECTIVELY PROTECTING SHARED GROUNDWATER RESOURCES REQUIRES YOU TO THOSE AMONG THE COUNTIES AND GROUNDWATER CONSERVATION DISTRICTS AS WELL AS ENHANCED THE AUTHORITY OF THE STATE OF TEXAS TO CREATE THE UNIQUE IMPACTS OF INDUSTRIAL HIGH WATE USE PROJECTS SPEE OR NOW THERE FOR BE IT RESOLVED BY THE COMMISSIONERS COURT OF HAYS COUNTY, TEXAS, SEC. SECTION OF 1, ESTABLISH TEMPORARY EMERGENCIES -- AND THE HAYS COUNTY COMMISSIONERS COURT HEREBY INSTITUTES OF TEMPORARY EMERGENCY WATER PROTECTION REVIEW PERIOD.

THE COMMISSIONERS COURT SHALL REFER CONSIDERATIONS OF DISCRETIONARY APPLICATIONS, INCLUDING THE PROJECTS AND SUCH MATTERS ARE SUBJECT TO THE DISCRETION OF THE COURT DID SUC A DISCRETION INCLUDES BITNET IS -- VARIOUS REQUESTS AND OTHER APPROVALS OUTLINED BY THE HAYS COUNTY REGULATIONS. THIS TEMPORARY REVIEW APPLIES STRICTLY TO SPECIFIC CATEGORIES OF APPROVAL THE COUNTIES EXISTING JURISDICTION WHILE PERMITTING THE AUTHORITY IS NOT BE CONSTRUED AS A WHETSTONE. SECTION TWO MET, DURATION AND AUTOMATIC EXPIRATION. THIS EMERGENCY REVIEW PERIOD WILL BE LIMITED TO 180 DAYS FRO THE DATE OF THE ADAPTION OF THI RESOLUTION. THIS SHOULD EXPIRE UNLESS EXPLICITLY EXTENDED BY THE COMMISSIONERS COURT FOLLOWING THE PRESENTATION OF PUBLIC PUBLIC SAFETY.

SECTION 3, THE HIGH WATER USE PROJECT FOR THE PURPOSES OF THI RESOLUTION, AND INDUSTRIAL HIGH WATER USE PROJECT IS DEFINED AS ANY DEVELOPMENT NOT ME THE APPROPRIATE THRESHOLDS.

THE EFFORT -- AND ANTICIPATED WATER DEMAND MORE THAN 25,000 GALLONS OF WATER A DAY OR, 2, DID NET SEVE CROWD COMPUTING OR OTHER FACILITIES COMBINED.

THE PROJECT INCLUDES INDUSTRIAL COOLING OPERATIONS FOR THERMAL MANAGEMENT BEFORE THE ROGERS INCLUDES ONE OF, AND HAS ASSOCIATES TO REVIEW UNDER. SECTION FOR MICAH MANDATORY WRITTEN FINDINGS. THE COURT BASES TEMPORARY ACTIO ON THE FOLLOWING DOCUMENTED EMERGENCY CONDITIONS.

ONE, AQUIFER LEVELS BID HISTORI AQUIFERS THREATEN LOCAL WELLS AND SUSTAINABILITY IN RESIDENTIAL BORDER SECURITY.

2, AFTER THE DECLARATIONS CONFIRM CONSISTENT RUNS OR DOES.

>> 3, GROUNDWATER SUPPLIES THAT ARE RELY THE AVAILABILITY FORWARD DEMAND. 4, THE HIGH --

[02:25:09]

SECTION 5, STATE DROUGHT PROCLAMATION ALIGNMENT THE COMMISSIONERS COURT HEREBY DIRECTS THE OFFICE OF EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT IN THE COUNTY STAFF TO IDENTIFY ALL LAWFUL EMERGENC MANAGEMENT TOOLS UNDER THE ACTIVE STATE ISSUED DROUGHT DISASTER PROCLAMATION OF THE COUNTY SHALL NOT CLAIM OR EXERCISE ANY AUTHORITY NOT CLEARLY DELEGATED BY SAID PROCLAMATION. SECTION 6, ENFORCEMENT OF OSF AUTHORITY. HAYS COUNTY SHALL EXERCISE THEI STATUTORY AUTHORITY UNDER TEXAS HEALTH AND SAFETY 366 BUT THIS OVERSIGHT FOCUSES ON PUBLIC HEALTH AND WASTEWATER MANAGEMEN AND SYSTEM CAPACITY AND GROUNDWATER PROTECTION THIS AUTHORITY SHALL NOT BE UTILIZED FOR GENERAL USE CONTROL.

SECTION 7, THE HIGH WATER DEMAN REVIEW BOARD.

THE REVIEW PERIOD SHALL SERVE A THE IMPLEMENTATION.

MAC FOR THE HAYS COUNTY HIGH WATER DEMAND DEVELOPMENT REVIEW BOARD OR REVIEW BOARD AND OFFICIAL ADVISORY BOARD TO THE COMMISSIONERS COURT AND DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DEPARTMENT.

FOR THE REVIEW OF PROPOSED INDUSTRIAL HIGH WATER DEMAND DEVELOPMENTS INCLUDING DATA CENTERS, LARGE-SCALE INDUSTRIAL FACILITIES AND OTHER PROJECTS WITH SIGNIFICANT WATER DEMANDS.

SHALL CONSIST OF REPRESENTATIVE APPOINTED BY THE COMMISSIONERS COURT INCLUDING AND NOT LIMITED TO ELECTED OFFICIALS, DEVELOPMENT SERVICES STAFF, WATER RESOURCE AND DEVELOPMENT STAKEHOLDERS AND MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC.

THE REVIEW BOARD IS DIRECTED TO 1, INDUSTRIAL HIGH WATER DEMAND DEVELOPMENT AND HAS POTENTIAL IMPACTS AND AQUIFERS AND PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURES. TWO IF YOU HAVE WATER ABILITY STUDIES, DRAFT CONTINGENCY PLAN AND OTHERS SUBMITTED BY APPLICANTS APPLICANT'S. PROVIDE FINDINGS AND ACCOMMODATIONS REGARDING THE POTENTIAL IMPACTS OF PROPOSED DEVELOPMENTS ON THE PUBLIC HEALTH AND SAFETY AND WELFARE O HAYS COUNTY RESIDENTS. DEVELOPMENT REVIEW STANDS RELATED TO INDUSTRIAL HIGH WATE DEMAND PROJECTS FOR CONSIDERATION BY THE COMMISSIONERS COURT AND 5, HIGH WATER DEMAND DEVELOPMENT CHECKLISTS, EXHIBIT A, DURING THE TEMPORARY REVIEW PERIOD AND THEY WILL SUBMIT THE REQUIRED DOCUMENTATION, PERMITS OR APPROVALS OR SCHEDULED MAINTENANCE. OF THE UNINCORPORATED AREAS OF THE COUNTY. SECTION 8, JOINT ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW. THE COMMISSIONERS COURT DOES HEREBY ISSUE A FORMAL CALL TO THE COUNTIES, LOCAL GROUNDWATER CONSERVATION DISTRICT AND WATER AUTHORITY AUTHORITY TO INITIALL COLLABORATE JOINT IN ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEWS.

THIS JOINT EFFORT SHALL BE CUMULATIVE TRANSBOUNDARY IMPACT AND MAPS SHARED WITH ABILITIES AND TO PRESERVE REGIONAL WATER SECURITY PRERECESSION 9, PETITION A SPECIAL LEGISLATIVE SESSION. THE COMMISSIONERS COURT HEREBY OFFERS THE RATE. REQUESTING THE CALL OF SPECIAL LEGISLATIVE SESSIONS, THIS IN THE TEXAS LEGISLATURE EXPANDS STATUTORY AUTHORITY IN TEXAS COUNTIES, LOCALIZED POWERS TO PROTECT AND THEY GREATLY REGULATE THE WATER AND IMPACTS

[02:30:02]

EXHIBIT A, INDUSTRIAL HIGH WATE USE DEVELOPMENT CHECKLISTS.

APPLICANTS FOR ANY DEVELOPMENT INDIVIDUALS OF AN INDUSTRIAL HIGH WATER USE PROJECT UNDER SECTION 2 MUST SUBMIT COMPLETED REVIEW PACKAGE FOLLOWING THE DATA AND PROJECT IMPACT STUDIES ON LOCAL TRANSPARENCIES FOR SERVICES DEPARTMENT.

RESOURCE CONSUMPTION PROJECTS, WATER AND POWER.

PROVIDE CERTIFIED PROJECTIONS FOR TOTAL DAILY WATER CONSUMPTION GALLONS A DAY. PUBLIC WATER SUPPLY AND GROUNDWATER WELLS COOLING SYSTE SPECIFICATIONS, MECHANICAL ENGINEERING DATA FOR ANY CLOSED LOOP COOLING ALTERNATIVE COOLIN SYSTEMS. POWER IMPACT STUDY.

DISCLOSED TOTAL PROJECTED MAC BOUGHT DEMAND AND SUBSTATION REQUIREMENTS AND A FULL SERVICE AVAILABILITY AND RELIABILITY ASSESSMENT FROM THE LOCAL ELECTRIC PROVIDER.

ENVIRONMENTAL WASTEWATER MANAGEMENT.

LARGE CAPACITY OSF DESIGN BRIDE DETAILED ENGINEERING PLANS FOR SEWAGE FACILITIES INCLUDING COMPREHENSIVE LOCALIZED SUITABILITY ANALYSIS, HYDRAULIC LOADING RATES ON LONG-TERM ABSORPTION CAPABILITIES FOR PEA CAPACITY.

STORMWATER MODEL. SUBMIT AND POST DEVELOPMENT REPORTS MEASURING THE COVER ON LOCAL BASINS ALONG WITH STORMWATER POLLUTION PREVENTION PLANS INVESTED IN PPP.

PROVIDE COMPLIANCE DOCUMENTATIO COPIES OF PERMIT APPLICATIONS FOR ALL HEAVY EQUIPMENT AND AUXILIARY FACILITIES AND GENERATORS. COMMUNITY IMPACTED INFRASTRUCTURE PROTECTION. TRAFFIC IMPACT AND DAMAGE ASSESSMENT. SUBMIT A COMPREHENSIVE TRACK OF IMPACT ANALYSIS. LIGHT POLLUTION CONTROLS.

PROVIDED ENGINEERING REPORT PROVING COMPLIANCE AND LOCAL QUALITY-OF-LIFE STANDARDS AND CONTINUOUS LOHSE FREQUENCY HOMMES AND INDUSTRIAL COOLING UNITS FOR TESTING.

SITE PLAN AND FUTURE EXPANSION LAYOUT.

INDIVIDUAL RENDERINGS AND LOCALIZED FACILITIES SETBACK BOUNDARIES AND FRAMING FROM ANY FUTURE FOOTPRINT EXPANSIONS.

MANDATORY PUBLIC NOTICE TRANSPARENCY.

OFF-SITE PHYSICAL SIGNAGE. PROVIDE HIGHLY VISIBLE WHETHER PERSISTENT FLAPPERS PLACED AT THE STREET PERIMETER OF THE PROPOSED SITE DETAILING THE NATURE OF THE INDUSTRIAL HIGH WATER USE APPLICATION AND FORMA MEDIA ANNOUNCEMENTS.

PROOF OF THE PUBLIC PUBLISHED NOTICE DETAILING THE PROJECT.

>> MORE CONSECUTIVELY AND LOCAL DIGITAL MEDIA OUTLETS.

ADOPTED THIS THE NINTH DAY OF JUNE, 2026.

>> WE WILL START WITH YOU. >> JUDGE, I CERTAINLY BELIEVE THAT WE NEED TO HAVE A RESOLUTION CAN ALL SUPPORT.

I AGREE WITH THE COMMENTS. I KNOW BY JUDGE SUMTER MADE AN ABSOLUTELY, WE WANT TO PROTECT THOSE RESOURCES AND WE UNDERSTAND THERE ARE AREAS OF CONCERN, THE WESTERN SIDE ESPECIALLY. IT'S ALL OVER THE COUNTY AND THERE ARE CONCERNS IN THE WESTERN SIDE OF THE COUNTY WITH THE DEPLETION OF THOSE PRECIOUS RESOURCES.

AND I KNOW THAT WE ARE SAID THI IN PREVIOUS MEETINGS AND WE RECEIVED THIS YESTERDAY AT 3:30 AND I HAD NOT HAD A GOOD CHANCE TO REVIEW IT AND WHEN I TALK TO LEGAL ABOUT IT, I DO NOT THEY BEEF AND CNET BUT WHAT I DON'T WANT TO DO IS COME UP WE TALKED ABOUT THE COST OUR CITIZENS AND WE KNOW THAT OTHER COUNTIES HAV BEEN SUED ADOPTING RESOLUTIONS THAT THEY HAVE NO AUTHORITY TO DO SO THAT CONCERNS ME. TESSA CONCERNED ME MORE THAN A

[02:35:02]

DO WE HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO HAV THAT PROCESS A MORATORIUM I GUESS IS WHAT I'M ASKING, IN YOUR OPINION.

GO AHEAD PUT A GUESS THAT IS MY FIRST QUESTION.

>> CHASE YOUNG, CIVIL DIVISION. THIS IS NOT A FACTOR MORATORIUM AND THERE'S A FEW PORTIONS, AS WE'VE HEARD IT,.

>> I HAVE NOTES. >> PERFECT, GOOD.

>> WE DID DISCUSS THAT AT ONE POINT.

AND THE BIGGEST ISSUE THAT I AM SEEING HERE ARE GOING TO BE SECTIN 7.5 IN CONJUNCTION -- THE CALLS TO TALK TO THE LEGISLATURE TO TRY TO GET THIS SPECIAL SESSION, THAT IS ALWAYS THE BUT HERE, IT'S FRUSTRATING MOST OF THE TIME.

SO WHENEVER THE RESOLUTION SAYS THAT AND ENTERED TO MOVE FORWAR WITH ANY KIND OF A PERMIT, THER WOULD HAVE TO BE CERTAIN THAT HAS MORE RISK THAN WHAT A MORATORIUM HAS THOSE ARE SOME O MY CONCERN IS THAT PORTION RIGH THERE.

I DID HIGHLIGHT THAT, JUDGE. I AM WONDERING, IT CAN CERTAINL GO DOWN HERE OTHERS. AND IF WE WERE TO CONSIDER THIS TODAY KAMARA THERE SOME PROFESSIONS AND I DON'T KNOW.

BEAVAN TRIED THAT LAST TIME LET'S NOT TAKE ANY ACTION RIGHT NOW. LET'S TAKE A LOOK AT IT SEE IF WE CAN GET SOME LANGUAGE THAT BETTER FITS THE CONCERNS.

>> YES. IN THE FIRST PASS, WE WERE VISITING WITH CIVIL DIVISION AN WE CAME UP WITH A MUCH SHORTER FRAMEWORK AND I TABLED IT ANYWA AND I THINK THAT WAS IN FEBRUAR AND GIVING EVERYONE MORE TIME T DIGEST.

JUDGE SET IT RIGHT. IT IS BOLTED AND I'M ASKING THE COURT TO BE BOLD WITH ME. I KNOW IT'S AN UNCOMFORTABLE FACT, I AGREE. BUT I THINK WE GAVE LEGAL -- I DON'T DO ANYTHING IN A VACUUM. I ALWAYS FOLLOW ALONG WITH THE ATTORNEYS AND WE'VE DONE A STATEWIDE SPRAY WHAT IS FEASIBLE . I DELIBERATELY CHOSE TO BRING THEM BACK BECAUSE AFTER THE ELECTION ELECTIONS ARE OVER NOT GOING ANYWHERE. I'M STILL GOING TO KEEP PRESSIN FOR IT. NOT GOING AWAY.

AND I WILL CONTINUE EVERY DAY T FIGHT FOR OUR COMMUNITY.

THAT IS WAY BACK TO THE -- THIS CAN BE ALL THROWN OUT THE WINDOW. THIS IS NOT POLITICAL POSTURING.

THIS IS NOT ONLY FOR OUR COMMUNITY, BUT FOR OUR REGION.

HE WAS TALKING BUT I HAVE BUT A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T REALIZE HOUSES FOR THE ABILITY TO OPERATE AND SO THIS IS THE SPAC BE A THIS IS THE TIME. AND WE SHOULD REMOVE THE WORD MUST AND SELL THE OCEANS AND PU THE WORDS SHOULD APPEAR THAT TH

[02:40:01]

THE RESIDENCE OF THE COUNTY, GENERAL SPEAKING, ARE NOT IN FAVOR OF THIS TYPE OF HIJACKING OF OUR RESOURCES.

I WANT TO SEND THAT MESSAGE LOU AND CLEAR.

I BELIEVE IN IT 100% AND I AM PRO-BUSINESS BUT NOT AT THE EXPENSE OF BILLIONS OF PEOPLE'S DRINKING WATER AND AT THE EXPENSE OF THE HOME WHEN THE PIANISTS OF THEIR HOMES SPEE OR THEIR END IS GOING TO HAVE THIS PLOT ONTO THE FOOTPRINT SO WHATEVER YOU WANT TO EDIT, I'M HAPPY TO LISTEN.

>> (-LEFT-PARENTHESIS SO THE ANDREW GOING TO BRING A RESOLUTION NEW AS ABIGAIL, WHAT IS ABIGAIL'S LAST NAME.

ANYWAY. LINDSAY.

I WANT TO ENSURE THAT HE WILL B OURS CIVIL -- AND RAILS ON SUCH A WAY THAT THAT IS THE SECTION THAT I HAVE HIGH VALUES AND IF WE CAN WORK THROUGH BETTER LANGUAGE ON THAT I HAVE IT TO CONSIDER THAT. SECTION SEVEN.

>> SECTION SEVEN. >> AND HE WAS ONE WHO IS CREATING ALL THE KEYSTROKES FOR THIS.

SECTION 5. >> 7.

76 THEY PUT IN A BIGGER FUND HE I KNOW THAT SYL HAS GIVEN US A COUPLE OF COMMENTS UPON IT. I THINK IT IS FAIR TO SAY THAT YOU'VE GONE THROUGH THE CHECKLIST AND THERE ARE SOME WORKABLE COMPONENTS TO IT. THERE ARE SOME PORTIONS ON HERE THAT WE ARE DOING ALREADY. DEPENDING ON THE TYPE OR SIZE O DEVELOPMENT THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT WE CAN REQUIRE.

BUT THE MAJORITY, I'M GOING FRO MEMORY HERE, FOR GOING TO BE THINGS THAT ARE PROBLEMATIC FOR THE COUNTY TO DO.

FOR EXAMPLE, THE NOISE IS DETRIMENTAL.

HOWEVER UNFORTUNATELY THE COUNT DOESN'T REALLY HAVE A DIFFERENT ZONING OR REGULATORY AUTHORITY TO MODIFY BID HAVE TO GO BY THE COMMON NUISANCE KIND OF STANDARD , WHICH IS 85 DECIBELS LATER. WHICH IS UNFORTUNATELY A VERY HIGH STANDARD. SALT TO LEAVE SOMETHING IN THEIR , YOU ARE SAYING IDENTIFIED THAT 85 DECIBELS BECAUSE WE MAY NOT FIND IT AGREEABLE FOR THEM TO MAKE THE ASSESSMENT.

SO IF WE WANT TO GO THROUGH STEP-BY-STEP AND SAY THAT THERE'S A DIFFERENT VARIATION THAN THAT REQUEST MORE TIME TO MY DON'T WANT TO GET THE COURT --

>> I JUST WANT TO GET THE GENERAL TONE OF WHAT YOU'RE THINKING INVESTMENT IS SET THE ROADMAP.

>> WITH THAT WE COULDN'T REQUIR OR SHIFT THE BURDEN ONTO THEM

[02:45:07]

IF WE CAN RECORD THAT THEY ARE, THEN WE WOULD HAVE SOME NOTION THAT IS IN THE COMMON NUISANCE SECTION.

WE USUALLY LET PEOPLE TALK FOREVER.

WE JUST WANT TO GO BACK-AND-FORTH FOR THE VIEWING PUBLIC. ASKING FOR AN ASSESSMENT OF THE THINGS THAT ARE GOING TO BE HUGGING THE FOOTPRINT TO MAKE SURE WE GO OVER 85. IT IS YOUR OPINION TO THE COURT THAT WE SHOULDN'T ASK THEM TO ARTICULATE THAT QUALITY AND QUANTITY. IF THEY WANT TO BE A PARTNER WITH THE COUNTY, THEY CAN ALWAY ASK FOR IT.

AND THEN THEY WOULD RUN A SHOT CLOCK PLAT AND WE WOULD HAVE TH SAME RISK WITH THE NATIONAL FUN INSURANCE PROGRAM AND POTENTIALLY OPEN OURSELVES FOR THE REGULATORY CLAIMS AS WELL A TICKET CLAIMS AND THERE'S POTENTIALLY SOME EQUAL PROTECTION AS WELL AS WE ARE STILL LOOKING AT THAT RIGHT NOW.

SO, JACOB. A SUGGESTION OF DOING THAT NOIS

STUDY IS -- >> IT IS NOT AN UNENFORCEABLE COMPONENT HOWEVER WE CAN MAKE I PART OF FIVE DEVELOPMENT RELIEF PROCESS AND CONTINGENT ON MOVIN OR GIVING APPROVAL.

>> YOU SAY REQUESTING IT. >> I WOULD SAY WHATEVER.

WE ARE RECOMMENDING SOME KIND O A NOISE BARRIER.

I THINK THE WORDING, THE RECOMMENDATION, WE CAN ALSO PUT THE 85 DECIBELS WHATEVER. I DON'T KNOW.

I KNOW THAT IS ALSO IMPORTANT BUT I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU ARE SAYING BID WE CAN'T MANDATE THA THEY CAN DO IT BUT WE CAN CERTAINLY RECOMMEND. REQUESTED IS A BETTER WORD.

>> HOW WOULD WE KNOW IF THEY AR PLANNING TO EXCEED THE 85 DECIBELS WITHOUT SOME INFORMATIONAL REQUESTS.

TURNING THIS RESOLUTION INTO A REQUEST OF THE DECIBEL READING IS FINE WITH ME. AT LEAST IT PUTS IT IN FOCUS.

AND THEN WE CAN LATER PUBLICLY DECIDE AND THEY DID NOT DO IT.

BASICALLY IT IS PUBLIC INFORMATION AND THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT WILL MAKE US SEE TH PICTURE COMPLETELY.

NONE OF US FOR THE MOST PART, NONE OF US BUILD ASSETS FOR A LIVING SO WE HAVE TO WORK TOGETHER TO UNDERSTAND EVERYBOD COMPLAINING ABOUT DRIVING THEM CRAZY.

THAT IS SOMETHING WE SHOULD INCORPORATE FOR OUR HAYS COUNTY RESIDENTS AS PART OF THE CONSIDERATION PROCESS.

>> I THINK THEY WANT TO BE -- THIS IS SOMETHING THEY WILL DO BECAUSE THEY HAVE PAST EXPERIENCE AND THEY KNOW THIS I

AN ISSUE. >> WE CAN MAKE THAT INTO A REQUEST. OKAY, WHAT ELSE.

WHAT ELSE, CHASE, WAS OF CONCERN .

IF YOU DON'T MIND, THIS IS THE SAME ONE.

>> TWO HELP WITH THE NOISE, IS POSSIBLE WE CAN REQUIRE THEM TO A CERTAIN SETBACK? IS THERE ANY ENFORCEABLE LIQUID NOT GOING TO THOUGHTFUL FORCE, AND I KNOW FOR REDOING OUR SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS CURRENTLY SO WERE JUST STARTING

TO GET INTO THESE THINGS. >> A LOT OF TIMES THEY WILL BE TRIGGERED AND BASICALLY IS FAR GREATER THAN 10 ACRES.

IT IS NOT SOMETHING THAT WE CREATED SO INSIDE OF THOSE ONES THAT ARE AND WE HAVE BETTER REGLATIONS THERE, IN THAT

BUFFER TO AN AREA. >> WE CAN ALWAYS REQUEST.

[02:50:06]

YOU COULD HEAR THE MUDDY GROUND CAFÉ 4 MILES AWAY AND THEY HAD 24 HOUR SOUND MONITORING AT THE PROPERTY LINE AND PROVIDED THEY DID THAT MULTIPLE TIMES, IT AND 7-MILE FROM US SO THAT IS FIVE DECIMAL, IT DOESN'T DO ANY GOOD. THE THINGS THAT, I COULD SUPPOR THIS RESOLUTION. OKAY.

I SKIMMED THROUGH IT IS A FOUR-PAGE RESOLUTION.

>> FIVE MONTHS TO WORK THROUGH IT.

I'M TRYING TO DO THE RIGHT THIN FOR OUR COMMUNITY.

SO IT COMES DOWN TO IT, THERE I A REASON WHY THAT WAS IN THERE IN THAT MORATORIUM. AND I AM ALSO DOWN TO SET THE PRECEDENT FROM A COUNTY PERSPECTIVE SO WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT THAT AND LOOKING THROUGH THIS IN A NUTSHELL AND THEY VIEWED THE PUBLIC, WERE BASICALLY SAYING WERE NOT TO ALLOW DISCRETIONARY APPROVALS. SALT THAT GIVES THEM AN EXPRESS LANE. AND IS JUST NOT GIVING THEM ANY INCENTIVES. I DIDN'T THINK THAT FROM A DATA CENTER PERSPECTIVE, JUST DUE TO THE PAST HISTORY, THEY ALSO ESTABLISHED HOW INDUSTRIAL USE ADJUSTMENT COUNTY PERSPECTIVE BECAUSE THERE IS NOT ANY TYPE O LEGAL DEFAMATION IN TEXAS ABOUT WHAT HIGH INDUSTRIAL USAGES FRO THE COUNTY SO IT'S JUST GIVING HAYS COUNTY DEFINITION THAT I'M ALSO ASKING THE STATE FOR GUIDANCE AND ASSISTANCE FOR LOCAL AUTHORITY ON THESE ISSUES.

WE NEED THE STATE LEGISLATOR TO STEP IN AND MAKE THE DECISIONS BEST FOR OUR COUNTY SO RIGHT NO THE COUNTIES NOT OPERATE IN IS JUST NOT GOING TO WORK WHEN IT COMES TO RESOURCES.

SO IT JUST ESTABLISHES A REVIEWER AND IF THIS DOES GO TO THE BOARD, THIS IS MY LANE AND WOULD LIKE TO SPEND ALL MY TIME IF I COULD BUT IT'S JUST GOING THROUGH WITH A FINETOOTH COMB AND CHECKING OUT ALL OF THESE DEVELOPMENTS ESPECIALLY COMES T DATA CENTERS AND I THINK IN THI DAY AND AGE, I AM ALL COUNTIES COULD SAY THAT AND I THINK THAT THEY ARE LISTENING.

I THINK THE MEDIA FOR COVERING HAYS COUNTY THE WAY YOU DO BECAUSE PEOPLE DON'T KNOW WHAT WE'RE DOING ON THIS YOU TELL THEM. WE STAY IN OUR LANE AND STAY IN OUR PLACE. AND IT'S VERY OBVIOUS AND PROBABLY THE LESS OBVIOUS THING. WITH THAT, DOING THE SUBDIVISIO REGULATIONS. AND THAT HIS DISCUSSION THAT HA BEEN GOING ON AS MUCH AS THEY CAN FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE AS WELL. SO I THINK IT IS GOOD TO GET THEM SIDE-BY-SIDE AND WORK IN TANDEM WITH THOSE REGULATIONS T MAKE SURE THAT WHATEVER WE CAN COME UP WITH IS OUR WATER AND NATURAL RESOURCES AGAIN. CHASE AND JACOB, DO YOU WANT TO ADD ANYTHING. THE DEVELOPMENT RESOLUTIONS AND

[02:55:05]

THIS IS KIND OF A UNIQUE ANIMAL THAT THEY'VE LITERALLY BEEN WORKING ON FOR SEVERAL MONTHS WITH THE ACTUAL NEXUS OF IT.

BECAUSE OF THOSE LIMITATIONS, THEY CAN HELP US ON THE OUTSIDE OF THE BOX AND THAT IS WHERE WE ARE GOING TO FIND.

WE HAVE BEEN LOOKING AT OTHER COUNTIES.

IT WOULD BE A LOSS AND THEY ARE KIND OF TAKING IT OUT OF THE BO SPEAKING AND COMING AT IT FROM SETBACK PERSPECTIVE AND AND THE THERE ARE ALSO THINGS FROM OVERWATER PERSPECTIVE, THE PUBLIC WATER TO PROVIDE A BE ABLE TO APPROVE.

THERE CERTAIN THINGS THEY CAN D THAT THEY ARE LOOKING INTO.

BUT ONCE IN THE PREVIOUS VERSIO ARE NOT ADDRESSED YEAR.

I'M PROBABLY THE ONLY NATIVE OF HILL COUNTY HERE BUT I GREW UP IN HILL COUNTY AND STILL HAVE A RANCH THERE AND I CAN TELL YOU THAT THEIR COMMISSIONERS LEARN VERY QUICKLY THE THEATER AND UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT WE DISCUSSED IN OUR COURT.

WITHIN TWO DAYS THEY WERE HIT WITH OVER 100 MAIN DOLLAR LAWSUIT AND THAT IS WHY THEY REPEALED WHAT THEY DID.

WE PROVEN IN THIS COURT AND I WILL GIVE CREDIT TO FORMER COMMISSIONER SHALL. WERE THE ONES THAT BROUGHT IT T MORGAN AND THEY DECIDED TO BUIL A PIPELINE IN THE COUNTY.

WE DID IT IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE CITY OF COLIN THEY STOOD WITH US AT I FELT LIKE I WOULD FOUL THAT RESOLUTION TODAY IF W WERE FACING THE SIMILAR SITUATION.

THE DIFFERENCE IS THAT UNDER THAT LAWSUIT, WE REALLY HAD A SITUATION BUT WE THOUGHT WE HAV SOME IMPACT.

ON THIS ONE THERE CERTAIN ASPECTS FOR THE SIMPLE FACT THA THEY OUTLINED THIS CONVERSATION. MOST IMPORTANTLY UNDER THE THIRTY-DAY SHOT CLOCK IF WE DEN SOME OF THESE THINGS AND THEY SUBMIT, WE HAVE TO MAKE A DECISION WITHIN THAT 30 DAYS.

I WOULD REALLY LIKE FOR LEGAL T HAVE THE REVIEW OF INDIVIDUAL THINGS AND THAT CHECKLIST TO ENSURE THAT WE AREN'T SETTING THEM UP FOR IMMEDIATE SUCCESS BECAUSE AT DAY 31 IF THEY SUBMITTED THOSE CORRECTLY AND W CHOOSE DO NOT CONSIDER THEM, THEN WE AUTOMATICALLY HAVE TO ACCEPT WHATEVER THEY SUBMITTED UNDER STATE LAW. SOME OF THE SPECIFIC CONCERNS I HAVE THAT I HAVE QUESTIONS ON, UNDER SECTION THREE AND FOUR, BUT I DON'T THINK MANY WOULD KNOW OR TALK ABOUT IS THAT IF YOU REQUIRE THE SAME DELAY ON ANYONE WHO IS ANYONE WHO IS SUBJECT TO A TEXAS COMMISSION O ENVIRONMENTAL POLICY -- WE ARE SOME THAT ARE REGULATED BY TCE Q.

WE ARE ACTUALLY, WE HAVE SMALL BUSINESSES THAT WE ARE GOING TO DIRECTLY IMPACT PICK RIGHT NOW BUT GOING TO CONSIDER DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT LATER IN THE DAY FOR A BUSINESS THAT IF WE DID NOT COME IF WE DID NOT OFFER THEM A VARIANCE, IT WOULD BE CHEAPER FOR THEM TO GO TO TH STATE AND TAKE LONGER JUST COMPLETELY BE OUTSIDE OF OUR REVIEW PROCESS BUT BECAUSE THEY POINT TO BE WITHIN THE PROCESS, WE ARE GETTING OTHER THINGS OUT OF THAT DEVELOPMENT AND WE ARE GETTING THINGS THAT WE DON'T

[03:00:03]

>> COMMISSIONER, THAT WOULDN'T BE CONSIDERED A HIGH WATER

DEMAND -- >> THEY MADE A BUSINESS DECISIO BECAUSE THEY COULD NOT MEET OUR STANDARDS TO EITHER DO IT DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WITH US O THEY COULD'VE JUST GONE TO THE STATE AND GOT THE OSF BATH. AND INSTEAD OF 3800 GALLONS TODAY TO 5,000 GALLONS A DAY, THEY WOULD FALL INTO THE STATE.

AND UNDER THIS, THOSE TWO ITEMS THAT WOULD CAPTURE A NUMBER OF WHAT WE WOULD CONSIDER HIGH USERS UNDER THAT SO THOSE TWO PROFESSIONS, I'M OKAY WITH A LO OF THOSE TWO THINGS.

I DON'T KNOW AND ONE OF THE THINGS I DON'T -- ONE OF THE THINGS I WANT TO ASK CHASE IS CAN WE MAKE OUR RULES PURSUANT TO THE COMPLETION OF THE STATE PROCESS IF IT IS OUTSIDE OF OUR PROCESS. ONCE THEY SUBMIT AN APPLICATION TO US, WE HAVE TO CONSIDER IT WITHIN THAT 38 SHOT CLOCK.

SO IT DOESN'T MATTER. I THINK WE HAVE THE FACILITIES TO THE STATE FOR FIVE YEARS AND THEY NEVER STARTED CONSTRUCTION.

SO NOW JUST BECAUSE THEY HAVE THAT OR THEY CHOSE TO GO THROUG THAT PROCESS, THAT STATE PROCESS , IT WOULD PUT US IN VIOLATION IF WE WAITED 30 DAYS IF WE SUBMIT FOR THE DRIVEWAY PERMIT OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT THAT IS WHERE MY CONCERN IS IT IS A LOGISTICAL CONCERN. I'VE FRONT TO TELL YOU AS THE CREATOR OF THIS DOCUMENT, COCREATOR, I WON'T TAKE FULL CREDIT, I WOULD NEVER DO ANYTHING TO HARM ANY SMALL BUSINESS. SO AS COMMISSIONER INGALLS POINTED OUT, IT IS REPEATEDLY LARGE INDUSTRIAL HIGH WATER USE SERVERS AND IN MY DEFINITION IT WOULD NOT BE RESTAURANT, DRIFTWOOD, GAS STATION, NONE OF THOSE THINGS APPEARS.

>> THIS PROFESSION RIGHT HERE SAYS THE PROPERTY INCLUDES ONE OR MORE OUTSIDE SEWAGE -- UNDER THE RULES AND THE SYSTEM SIZE, SITE CONDITION, WASTE WATER VOLUME, OR SURFACE WATER

AND GROUNDWATER CONCERN. >> WE COULD MAKE SURE WE TIE IT TO THE LARGE SINGLE INDUSTRIAL USER FOR THAT.

>> I'M FINE WITH THAT BUT IF YO TIRED DIRECTLY TO WHETHER OR NO THEY HAVE THE REVIEW, THAT WRAP IN AN ENTIRE GROUP AND I SAY THAT BECAUSE, FOR EXAMPLE, IF YOU ARE FAMILIAR WITH MY PRECINCT, THE CORNER OF MUDDY BROWN ROAD AND 1826, THEY HAVE, THEY ARE UNDER A TCE Q REVIEW BECAUSE THEY ARE PUBLIC WATER SUPPLY OR. TWO PUT IN THE GAS STATION, THE HAD TO GO TO THE STATE AND GET PUBLIC WATER SUPPLY PERMIT AND RESTAURANT, I'VE GOT OVER 200 I THINK NOW PUBLIC -- WHAT ARE CONSIDERED PUBLIC WATE SUPPLIES IN MY PRECINCT AND THE VAST MAJORITY OF THEM ARE EITHE CAMPS OR A RESTAURANT OR AN INDIVIDUAL BECAUSE THEY HAD TO HAVE THAT FOODSERVICE FACILITY, THEY HAVE TO BE CERTIFIED AS A PUBLIC WATER SYSTEM BY TCE Q AN IT WOULD WRAP ALL OF THOSE INTO IT EVEN IF THEY ONLY USE 150-20

IS WHAT MY CONCERN IS. >> WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE TO BEAT THAT CONCERN OUT IT DOESN'T INCLUDE RESTAURANTS AND GAS

STATIONS. >> VERY GOOD.

WE CAN ADDRESS THAT THE OTHER THING THAT I HAVE.

UNDER THE REVIEW BOARD, I WANT SOME CLEAR, SOME CLEAR DIRECTIO FROM LEGAL AS TO WHAT ABILITY W HAVE TO HAVE OUTSIDE PUBLIC MAK THOSE INDIVIDUAL DECISIONS. RECOMMENDATIONS BUT BEAT AND HO WOULD THAT WORK SHOT CLOCK PROCESS BECAUSE WE PUT STILL HAVE TO MAKE THOSE DECISIONS IN 30 DAYS AND SO WHOEVER IS ON THIS, IT'S GOING TO BE A FULL-TIME JOB.

IS NOT A FULL-TIME JOB. HAS GOT TO BE COME IN ORDER TO GET ALL OF THOSE MATERIALS THAT WE ARE ASKING FOR, IT'S GOING T

[03:05:01]

>> I WAS JUST GOING TO POINT OU THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO GO WITH ALL FIVE OF THESE SPEE ARE THEY CAN BE ON A MORE PERMANENT LARGE-SCALE RECOMMENDATION AND NOT HAVE TO GET SOMETHING IN FO THE 30 DAY REVIEW. THERE'S NOTHING THAT CAN'T BE TAKEN OUT OF THE PURVIEW OF THE REVIEW BOARD.

>> HOW MANY PROJECTS DO WE CURRENTLY HAVE IN OUR APPLICATION WINDOW RIGHT NOW. HOW MANY OF THESE PROJECTS EVEN EXIST SO WE CAN GIVE CLARITY TO THAT.

>> NONE. >> YOU SAID ONE?

>> [INDISCERNIBLE] >> THIS WILL BE A TON OF

PROJECTS. >> I AGREE WITH YOU WE HAVE TO RATCHET DOWN THE INDIVIDUAL ITEMS ON THAT CHECKLIST BECAUSE IF NOT, THERE WILL BE OTHER ENTITIES OUT THERE TO CAPTURE THAT THEY WILL HAVE TO REVIEW. THAT'S THE POINT I'M MAKING.

EDITS TO ENSURE WE DON'T CAPTURE ANYONE ELSE EXCEPT THE INTENDED NET CAST TOWARDS THAT AUDIENCE AND I WILL SAY THAT I KNOW THIS MUCH AS COMMISSIONER AND I KNOW YOUR UNDERSTANDING IT MORE AND MORE THE LONGER YOU ARE IN OFFICE BUT I PRETTY QUICKLY GET A STATEWIDE VIEW OF THINGS IN MY CAPACITY AS COUNTY JUDGE FOR YOU SEE IT TO HOW QUICKLY AND I WILL TELL YOU THIS, WE HAVE ALREADY JUST BY TALKING ABOUT IT IN FEBRUARY, EVEN THOUGH I TABLED IT JUST BY TALKING ABOUT IT AND SHOWING THE COMMUNITY STANCE ON THESE ISSUES AND WHERE WE STAND AS A COMMUNITY, PITCHFORK READY CHARACTER HAS ALREADY BEEN A PIVOT ON SOME OF THOSE THINGS THAT WE ARE THINKING ABOUT COMING TO HAYS COUNTY AND I'M SORRY THAT THAT IS ON THEIR LEADERSHIP HERE THEY HAVE FOUND STRAWS TO NEIGHBORING COUNTIES AND SO MY POINT IS, OUR STANCE AND MESSAGE IS AND NEEDS TO CONTINUE TO BE LOUD AND CLEAR IF YOU WANT TO COME HERE WE WILL HAVE A CONVERSATION AND SO THAT IS WHAT THIS HELPS US TO DO AND WHEN WE STARTED CRAFTING THIS, SIX PROPOSED OPERATIONS LOOMING AROUND THE AREA BUT EVEN STILL BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO BE HALE COUNTY I REMAIN CONCERNED ABOUT DOING THE RIGHT THING AND BALANCING IT TOGETHER.

I MADE SURE THAT BECAUSE THERE ARE NO OTHERS, TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS DOCUMENT SAID FUTURE. SO NO ONE CAN SAY WELL, I WILL SUE YOU BECAUSE NO, THIS WAS NOT IN THAT TIMELINE.

WE ARE VERY CAUTIOUS AND CAREFUL TO SCRAPE STATEWIDE WHAT'S WORKING AND WHAT ISN'T WORKING AND HOW WE MOVE FORWARD IN A MEANINGFUL WAY BECAUSE I REPEAT, THIS IS AND HAS NOT BEEN A POLITICAL STUNT, JACOB, YOU ARE SAYING WE CAN EASILY MODIFY THAT AND KEEP THE INTEGRITY OF THE SPIRIT?

AM I RIGHT? >> WE CAN MAKE THAT REVIEW BOARD MORE OF AN ADVISORY FOR POLICIES AND MORE 30,000 FEET AS OPPOSED TO REACTING TO AN INDIVIDUAL APPLICATION.

>> THE ONE THAT CAME TO COURT HERE LAST YEAR IF THEY NEVER MET WITH ME AND THE THING THAT UPSET ME THE MOST ABOUT IT WAS THEY QUITE LITERALLY ALREADY HAD WATER CAPACITY FOR WHAT THEY WANTED TO DO AND I'VE SPOKEN TO OUR FIRE MARSHAL AND HE'S TELLING ME THAT IN THAT AREA, ON THAT WATER SYSTEM HAS THAT WATER SYSTEM IS DENYING FIRE SUPPRESSION FLOW FOR SMALL BUSINESSES. THEY ARE HAVING TO PUT IN TANK STORAGE BECAUSE THE WATER SYSTEM WON'T PROVIDE THEM FIRE FLOW BUT THEY WILL PROVIDE LITERALLY TENS OF THOUSANDS IF NOT HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF GALLONS PER DAY TO THIS FACILITY WHICH IS LUDICROUS TO ME. MY QUESTION IS JUST BECAUSE I ALSO SIT -- MY NEXT QUESTION IS CAN I CAN I USE THAT EXAMPLE BECAUSE I ALSO SIT ON THE WEST TRAVIS COUNTY BOARD AND WE HAVE HAD A MORATORIUM ON ALL DEVELOPMENT FOR ABOUT SIX MONTHS AND I SAY MORATORIUM BECAUSE WE ARE NOT ISSUING ANY WATER IF NO WATER METERS AND WE ARE DOING THAT AT THE PROMPTING OF THE

[03:10:05]

I DON'T KNOW HOW WE REGULATE THAT BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE THAT STATUTORY CONTROL HERE WE CAN'T DEPEND ON THESE WATER SYSTEMS TO DO THE RIGHT THING EVEN THOUGH THEY SHOULD BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW HOW WE CONTROL THAT AND HOW WE WORK THAT INTO OUR REVIEW PROCESS. I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR MORE FROM LEGAL AS THEY CONTINUE TO REVIEW THIS TO LOOK AT THAT ASPECT OF IT BECAUSE THAT IS REALLY WHERE THE RUBBER MEETS THE ROAD WHEN LOOKING AT THESE THINGS IF MORE SO THAN ANYTHING ELSE.

>> WE CAN ADDRESS IT LIKE WE DID THIS.

>> ANNOUNCER: THIS IS WHAT WE WOULD LIKE AND WHAT WOULD BE GOOD AND RIGHT AND NICE FOR THIS COMMUNITY.

BUT IT'S NOT MANDATORY SO THAT THEY SEE IT AND EVERYONE ELSE LOOKING IN SEES THE SAME ANSWER. I THINK THE SAME ANSWER APPLIES TO THAT WATER AS THE OTHER BECAUSE WHEN THE GOVERNOR CREATED THAT EMERGENCY DECLARATION, I SIMPLY ECHOED THE EMERGENCY DECLARATION AS A DIRECTOR OF EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT I SAID PUBLIC HEALTH EMERGENCY ACT WE HAVE THESE CONCERNS AND I ENCOURAGE ALL WATER PROVIDERS TO GO TO STAGE FOUR OR EQUIVALENT.

KYLE DOES NOT HAVE A STAGE FOUR. OR EQUIVALENT HERE CANCER RES.

IF THEY DO THAT JEFF YOU ARE EXACTLY RIGHT.

THEN IT'S A MOOT POINT BUT I AM TRYING TO GIVE EVERYONE POLITICAL COVER TO DO THE RIGHT THING BY THE PEOPLE THEY ARE CHARGED WITH SERVING AND REPRESENTING AND SO ANYTHING WHERE WE DON'T -- I. WILL AGREE TO THIS ANYTHING WHERE WE DON'T HAVE STATUTORY AUTHORITY, I WANT TO PUT IT AS A REQUESTED ITEM BUT NOT MANDATORY ITEM BECAUSE I DON'T WANT THIS TO GO AGAIN TABLED WHERE WE DON'T MAKE A PUBLIC STATEMENT TO THE STATE THAT WE ARE CURRENTLY OKAY WITH THE STATUS QUO AND WE HOPE THE LEDGE WILL DO SOMETHING NEXT TIME WE MEET KATH BLAH, BLAH, BLAH. I WANT TO SEND A STRONG MESSAGE FROM OUR STRONG COMMUNITY WITH A STRONG BUT RESPECTFUL VOTE TODAY. THAT IS MY AIM.

>> MY CONCERN AGAIN, LEGAL GOT THIS AT WHAT TIME?

>> WE WORKED ON IT LAST WEEK TO THO.

THEY GOT IT AT 3:30 LIKE EVERYONE ELSE.

>> I HAVE CONCERNS THAT THEY WON'T BE ABLE TO ANSWER TODAY AND I FULLY EXPECT THIS TO COME BACK WITH INPUT FROM EVERYONE FROM THE COURT AND OUTPUT FROM LEGAL ANSWERING OUR QUESTION BEFORE THE NEXT COURT. THAT WOULD BE MY ANTICIPATION.

THE OTHER THING THAT I HAD QUESTIONS ON, WE ARE WORKING ON A STATE WATER PLAN RIGHT NOW AND OUR COUNTY IS UNIQUE BECAUSE WE ARE SPLIT INTO TWO DIFFERENT REGIONS, REGION K AND L AND THERE'S A PROCESS FOR THAT AND A COORDINATION EFFORT AMONGST THOSE ON HOW WE WOULD LOOK AT OVERALL WATER SUPPLY AND HOW WE MIGHT HAVE ADDITIONAL AUTHORITY TO I LIKE THE CALL FOR JOINT ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW AMONGST COUNTIES BECAUSE TO YOUR POINT, WHENEVER WE TAKE ACTION HERE, THEY BUY PROPERTY IN THE NEXT COUNTY AND IT COULD BE THE SAME WATER TABLE OR WATER REGIONALLY.

I LIKE THAT, I JUST NEED CLARIFICATION ON HOW THAT COULD BE DONE OR IF THAT SHOULD BE DONE THROUGH REGION K AND REGION L. I THINK THAT IS PROBABLY THE RIGHT PLACE BUT IS THERE A WAY FOR US TO TAKE RECOMMENDATIONS FROM REGION K AND L AND IMPLEMENT THOSE INTO WHATEVER STRUCTURE? I THINK THERE MIGHT BE WHICH WOULD BE AN ADDITIONAL HOOK FOR US TO LOOK AT.

BUT I DON'T KNOW. AT LEAST WITH THE ITEM CHARACTER THREE ITEM FOUR, SECTION FOUR, ITEM FOUR, I'M NOT OKAY WITH

THAT. >> PAUSE THAT FOR ONE SECOND.

I DIDN'T WANT TO INTERRUPT YOU BUT THE FIRST PART OF YOUR COMMENT AND QUESTION WAS THE REGIONALISM AND I BELIEVE IN REGIONALISM AND PARTNERSHIPS AND COORDINATING WITH PARTNERS AND THAT IS WHY I HAVE -- I'VE DONE THE RESEARCH AND LIKE THE CAPITAL AREA METROPOLITAN PLANNING ORGANIZATION WHICH DOES REGIONAL PLANNING AND PULLS DOWN FEDERAL AND STATE FUNDS FOR PARTICULAR PROJECTS THAT BENEFIT THE LONG TERM GAIN, THE GOAL OF TRANSPORTATION. WE HAVE THE CAPACITY HERE TO CREATE THE SAME THING FOR THIS PURPOSE AND I COULD EASILY -- AND I HAVE THEIR NUMBERS, COULD TALK TO TRAVIS COUNTY,

[03:15:04]

>> JUST FOR THE GENERAL PUBLIC THEY HAVE BEEN LOOKING TO EXPAND INTO WATER ITSELF FOR TWO OR THREE YEARS NOW.

THAT EFFORT IS ALREADY UNDERWAY, JUDGE.

I WOULD TELL YOU IT'S CURRENTLY UNDERWAY.

I THINK THAT MY -- ANOTHER THING FEEDING INTO MY CONCERN IS ALL OF US ARE MEMBERS AND THE GENERAL PUBLIC WOULD NOT KNOW THIS BUT ALL OF US ARE MEMBERS OF THE TEXAS ASSOCIATION OF THE COUNTY SOLICITOR AND IT HAS EVERY SINGLE COMMISSIONER AND JUDGE IN THIS STATE ON IT. WITHIN THE LAST THREE DAYS ON THAT LIST, THERE HAS BEEN SEVEN DIFFERENT RESOLUTIONS SHARED AMONGST THEM AND ALL OF THEM ARE DIFFERENT EVERY ONE OF THEM IS DIFFERENT AND I KNOW TAC IS LOOKING AT THOSE AND DETERMINING AND TELLING THEM THIS PORTION IS THE RESULT.

THIS PORTION OF IT IS NOT. YOU CAN HAVE ENFORCEMENT HERE.

GETTING OUR OWN LEGAL STAFF THE TIME TO DO THAT I THINK WOULD BE

WELL WORTHWHILE. >> I WAS GOING TO MENTION THAT I HAVE THAT WRITTEN DOWN IF YOU LOOK AT THE LISTS HERE THERE HAVE BEEN NUMEROUS RESOLUTIONS AND I THINK THIS CAN BE A MODEL FOR OTHER COUNTIES BECAUSE I KNOW THAT JACOB HAS BEEN RIDING DOWN NOTES. I HATE TO PUT YOU IN A SPOT BUT IS THERE TIME FOR JACOB TO REFINE SOME OF THIS LANGUAGE THAT WE'VE SHARED TODAY AND LET YOU REVIEW IT SOMETIME DURING

THE DAY? >> I LOVE WHERE YOU ARE GOING FOR IF WE HAVE ALL THAT DONE AND ALL OF CHASE'S NOTES.

AND I SEE YOU IN THERE. SHE HAS BEEN WORKING WITH US ALSO ON THIS SINCE LAST WEEK THERE I KNOW IT MAY BE FRANK AND I'M NOT TRYING TO MAKE CIVIL DIVISION WITH THAT OR PUT THEM IN A NEGATIVE LIGHT. I'M NOT TRYING TO DO THAT BUT THEY'VE HAD TIME TO SEE THIS IN A USEFUL WAY IF WE HAVE GOOD NOTES FROM THEM AND WE ARE PREPARED BECAUSE THEY ALSO OFFERED AND I SAID JACOB, HOLD ON BECAUSE THIS IS SUPPOSED TO BE A WORKING CONVERSATION SO WE ARE PREPARED AND THEY HAVE SEEN IT AND I HAVE ALL OF THEIR NOTES RIGHT HERE AND SEVERAL PAGES STAPLED HERE TO MAKE THE EDITS AND I WILL TABLE IT FOR NOW AND WE HAVE PLENTY TO DO IN COURT AND BRING IT BACK BECAUSE I REALLY, REALLY WANT TO TAKE IT DOWN SIX MORE MONTHS.

IF YOU ARE UNCOMFORTABLE CHECKLIST EDIT IT.

I'M HAPPY TO EDIT IT HERE I WANT TO HAPPILY MOVE THAT ALONG.

SOUNDS GOOD? WE HAVE ANOTHER ITEM THAT IS RIGHT AFTER THIS GREG SOMETHING ELSE FOR THEM TO LOOK AT?

>> CHASE, MICHAEL, DO YOU THINK TODAY IS ENOUGH TIME OR WOULD YOU LIKE MORE TIME TO REVIEW? WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS WE CHASE IS VERY, VERY GOOD AT HIS JOB. I WANT TO SAY THAT NOW.

ALSO SOMEONE WHO GETS IN THE WEEDS.

>> I APPRECIATE THAT, COMMISSIONER.

RESPECTFULLY, I WOULD PREFER TO HAVE MORE TIME BASED ON THE RECOMMENDATION TO REMOVE IT IF WE ARE LOOKING AT MORE NUANCE ON WHERE DO WE HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE AUTHORITY IN SOME AREAS OR NOT. I WOULD REALLY PREFER TO HAVE MORE TIME THAN JUST TODAY WHEN I'M ALSO IN COURT TO BE ABLE TO GIVE PROPER LEGAL ADVICE BECAUSE I'M NOT SURE IF TODAY WILL BE

ENOUGH TIME. >> THIS IS AN IMPORTANT MOVE FOR THE COURT HERE I KNOW THAT COMMISSIONER COHEN IS SICK TODAY. I WOULD MUCH RATHER HAVE HER HERE AS WELL BECAUSE I'M SURE SHE WOULD HAVE INPUT OR I WOULD

LIKE TO ON THE PROCESS H. >> CAN WE CALL A SPECIAL

MEETING? >> HOW MANY DAYS DO YOU NEED? IF ALL OF THE DAY AND WHATEVER ELSE YOU'VE SEEN AND PROVIDED NOTES FOR IS NOT ENOUGH, HOW MUCH WILL BE USEFUL FOR YOU

>> WE COULD HAVE SOMETHING READY FOR NEXT COURT.

>> SOMETHING SOONER. >> IN TERMS OF THE WORKING

NOTES? >> WITH JACOB'S GUIDANCE BECAUSE WE WENT OVER ALL THESE NOTES YESTERDAY.

THAT YOU PROVIDED HERE AND I TOLD HIM, NO, WE DON'T NEED TO DO THAT. YES CACTUS WOULD BE NICE BUT THAT IS HIS OPINION. AND I KEPT GOING DOWN THE LIST.

YES, OKAY, I SEE THAT AND THAT IS A GREAT POINT FOR GREAT SUGGESTION. JACOB HAS MY THOUGHTS ON THIS BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO JUST SIGN A PLAIN PIECE OF PAPER HERE

[03:20:03]

>> I WOULD HAVE TO DISCUSS WITH JACOB BUT PROBABLY SOMETHING BY

END OF WEEK. >> I APPRECIATE IT.

WE NEED MEASURABLE, ATTAINABLE GOALS AND I APPRECIATE THAT ANSWER. DIFFICULT TO DO BUT I REALLY APPRECIATE, I'M RESPECTFULLY PRESSING YOU FOR AN ANSWER AND I APPRECIATE YOU PROVIDING THE ANSWER THAT WE NEED HERE I COULD GET COMMISSIONER, CALL A SPECIAL MEETING TO ADDRESS IT FOR FR FRIDAY.

>> CALLING THE MEETING DOES NOT STOP HIS WORK.

>> AGAIN, WHAT TIME DO WE HAVE TO REVIEW IT IF HE FINISHES ON FRIDAY AND SAY WE ARE HAVING A MEETING ON FRIDAY.

>> HIS NOTES ARE ALREADY AVAILABLE TICK THEY ARE NOT SIGNIFICANT JUST SUGGESTIONS OF EDITS.

MY AIM IS TO STAY IN THE PROCESS AND COMMISSIONER THANK YOU FOR

THAT SUGGESTION. >> WITH OUR NEW POSTING RULES, TO CALL A MEETING WE WOULD HAVE TO DO IT TODAY.

>> WHAT WERE YOU GOING TO SAY, CHASE?

>> THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING WHERE I COULD GET A SET OF DRAFTS BACK BUT TO GET Y'ALL'S INPUT BACK TOGETHER AGAIN I CAN'T GUARANTEE THAT WE WILL HAVE THE FINAL DOCUMENT.

>> WHEN IS NEXT COURT? THE 23RD.

HERE IS WHAT I WILL COMMIT TO. I WILL TABLE IT AND BRING IT BACK TO 23RD AND HAVE EVERYONE HAVE ALL THE TIME THEY WANT TO MASSAGE THIS ONE MORE TIME BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO PUT THIS IN A NEGATIVE LIGHT BUT I HAVE A COMMUNITY CLAMORING FOR THIS.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR WILLINGNESS. >> IF WE ALL ANTICIPATE IT IS COMING ON THE 23RD AND THAT BEING THE CASE, CAN WE ENSURE THAT THE PUBLIC GETS A COPY OF THIS BY IT BEING POSTED IN THE AGENDA THAT SHOULD BE FOR THE 23RD AND THEN WE ARE NOT SCRAMBLING THE DAY BEFORE IF WE JUST GOT IT OR YOU DIDN'T GET IT AND THE GENERAL PUBLIC CAN HAVE TIME TO LOOK AT IT AS WELL.

>> GREAT POINT. AS SOON AS CHASE SAYS THIS IS OUR FINAL AND WE ARE GOOD WITH THIS AND WE AGREE ON IT, I WILL MAKE A SOCIAL MEDIA POST. I HAVE EVERY DESIRE TO MAKE THAT PUBLIC AS YOU WANT IT.% THE ANSWER IS YES BUY I APPRECIATE YOUR WILLINGNESS TO PUT IT ON SOCIAL MEDIA.

PUT IT IN THE AGENDA TO. >> YES TO ALL OF THE ABOVE.

STATE YOUR NAME AND TITLE. >> ASSISTANT FROM THE DA'S OFFICE, BRETT COX, TO SUPPORT CHASE ON THIS MATTER.

WE WANT TO DO THIS RIGHT AND WE WANT TO DO IT TO WHERE IT IS LEGALLY DEFENSIBLE IN COURT IN CASE THE LAWYERS FOR THESE DEVELOPERS COME AFTER US LIKE THEY DID AFTER HILL COUNTY.

I WOULD LOVE IT IF Y'ALL COULD SHARE WITH CHASE, BECAUSE EVERY GOOD LAWYER IS HAPPY TO STEAL FROM SOMEBODY ELSE THAT'S ALREADY PLOUGHED THE GROUND, IF Y'ALL COULD SHARE WITH CHASE WHAT YOU ARE SEEING ON THAT LIST SO THAT WE CAN TAKE IDEAS THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN VETTED AND RESEARCHED BY OTHER COUNTIES AND POSSIBLY OFFER SOME SUGGESTIONS USING THAT LANGUAGE AND I AM GOING TO BE HERE TO SUPPORT HIM IN EVERY WAY TO GET THIS TO

Y'ALL AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. >> BACK ON THE AGENDA FOR THE 23RD. CAN I COUNT ON YOU CANDACE?

>> YES, SIR. NO ADDITIONAL ACTION REQUIRED FROM ME DESPITE PROVIDING A LEGAL DRAFT.

IT WILL BE ON THE 23RD, NO MATTER WHAT MOVING FORWARD.

>> YES, SIR. AND AT THE END OF BUSINESS WE

POST SO WE HAVE THE ACTUAL ITEM. >> I WILL TABLE AND BRING BACK TO 23RD AND NOW THE NEXT ITEM WILL BE, PLEASE OPEN ITEM -- I.

WILL TELL YOU RIGHT NOW. K13.

>> DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO AUTHORIZE THE EXECUTION OF THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT FOR THE HAYS COMMONS SUBDIVISION BETWEEN HAYS COUNTY AND HAYS COMMONS LAND INVESTMENT

LP. >> I HEARD A MOTION AND A SECOND. HERE IS THIS WILL UNFOLD, THIS

[03:25:03]

FEEL HEARD AND MOST DEFINITELY BE TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION BECAUSE THERE ARE OVER 60 LETTERS WRITTEN ALONE, NOT TO VALUE YOUR OPINION OH SO MUCH THAT I HAVE DONE THE DIFFICULT THINGS AND I HAVE ASKED THE COUNTY CLERK'S OFFICE ON MY DIRECTION AS THE CHAIR OF THIS COURT, IF YOU ARE GOING TO THROW DARTS, THROW THEM AT ME, TO CAPTURE THE SPIRIT OF A LETTER, IF IT'S VERY LOW PERCENTAGE TO READ ONE LETTER AND TELL US ALL THE NAMES OF THOSE PEOPLE THAT SIGN ON TO IT.

IF IT'S MEANINGFULLY DIFFERENT, I HAVE ASKED THEM TO READ IT.

WHAT I DON'T WANT IS BECAUSE SOMEONE MAY NOT EITHER HAVE THE TIME, THE SKILL SET, THE AVAILABILITY OR WHATEVER TO DRAFT AN ORIGINAL DOCUMENT WITH THEIR NAME ON IT, WITH THEIR CONCERNS, WHAT I DON'T WANT IS FOR THE COMMUNITY TO FEEL IGNORED. THOSE INDIVIDUALS THAT CAN'T BE HERE BECAUSE OF WORK BECAUSE OF TRANSPORTATION OR YOU DECIDE, I WANT TO MAKE SURE THEY ARE HEARD BUT AT THE SAME TIME I ALSO WANT TO BE RESPECTFUL OF EVERYONE'S TIME INVOLVED HERE WE DON'T NEED MORNING. WE WILL CAPTURE YOUR CONCERN AND I WILL GIVE YOU ONE MORE, ROXANN.

THIS WILL BE A CURVEBALL AND I HAVE NEVER ASKED THIS OF YOU BEFORE. I HAVE ALREADY BEEN ASKED TO TABLE THIS ITEM BUT JUST KNOW AS THE SPONSOR OF THE ITEM, COMMISSIONER SMITH IS ASKING FOR A TWO WEEK TABLE AND YOU HAVE TAKEN THE TIME TO BE HERE. I WANT YOU TO BE HEARD.

I WANT YOU TO KNOW WHERE I STAND PERSONALLY BUT NEVERTHELESS I WILL RESPECT THE COMMISSIONER'S REQUEST TO TABLE IT AND HERE IS MY REQUEST. ALL OF THE ENTRIES THAT HAVE BEEN SUBMITTED TO BE READ IN COURT TODAY, I WOULD LIKE FOR YOU TO FORWARD THEM TO THE NEXT COURT AGENDA SO THAT THEY DON'T HAVE TO DO THE WORK AGAIN AND WHEN ACTION IS FINALLY TAKEN BY THIS BODY, THAT THOSE RECORDS WILL STAY TOGETHER FOREVERMORE.

>> JUDGE, I WOULD MAKE ONE CORRECTION.

FIRST OFF, I AM GOING TO MOVE TO TABLE THIS TODAY.

FOR ANOTHER 30 DAY. IF THOSE COMMENTS WERE SUBMITTED AND IT'S GOING TO BE ANOTHER 30 DAYS, IT WOULD BE THE NEXT TIME THE ITEM WAS CONSIDERED HERE I WOULD WANT THOSE READ IN OR PLACED ON FOR THE NEXT TIME IT'S CONSIDERED.

JUST BECAUSE IF THEY WERE FOR THE NEXT COURT AND IT WOULD MAKE NO SENSE. OUT OF DUE DILIGENCE, IF I DO NOT WANT TO HEAR FROM THE PUBLIC ON THIS, I WOULD HAVE PULLED THE AGENDA ITEM AND IT WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN CONSIDERED TODAY BUT I WANT TO GIVE THE PUBLIC AGAIN -- A REASON WHY I DID THE FIRST 30 DAYS FOR PUBLIC COMMENT AND BECAUSE OF THAT, THAT IS A REASON THAT I KNEW THAT PEOPLE WERE COMING TODAY AND I WANTED TO ENSURE THAT THEY HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE THOSE COMMENTS OTHERWISE BEFORE COURT I WOULD HAVE PULLED THE AGENDA ITEM AND WE WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN CONSIDERED BUT YOU ALL HAVE TAKEN THE TIME OUT OF YOUR SCHEDULE AND TO BE HERE AND I

APPRECIATE THAT. >> THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER.

I APPRECIATE THE CLARIFICATION BUT I KNOW YOU UNDERSTAND MY INTENT WHICH IS NEXT TIME THIS APPEARS BEFORE THIS COURT, I WANT ALL OF THOSE WRITTEN COMMENTS TO BE TRANSFERRED OVER SO THAT THE PEOPLE THAT WENT THROUGH THE WORK, IT'S NOT THEIR JOB TO RUN THIS GOVERNMENT BUT OURS.

THE PEOPLE THAT DID THAT WORK DON'T HAVE TO DO IT AGAIN.

THAT IS DOABLE, NO PROBLEM? PERFECT AND THANK YOU.

LET'S START WITH THOSE WHO HAVE SIGNED UP AND ARE IN PERSON, I WILL ASK YOU THIS RESPECTFULLY. IF YOUR MESSAGE HAS ALREADY BEEN SAID, IT IS PURELY UP TO YOU AT THIS POINT.

I AM BIG ON YOUR FIRST AMENDMENT.

IF YOUR MESSAGE HAS ALREADY BEEN SAID AND WE CALL YOUR NAME, YOU CAN DO ANYTHING YOU WANT FROM I'M GOOD OR IT'S BEEN SAID, YOU CAN COME TO THE PODIUM AND STATE YOUR NAME AND SAY DITTO, WHATEVER YOU WANT TO DO OR REPEAT IT ALL FOR 3 MINUTES.

THE CHOICE IS YOURS BUT THIS IS ALL BEING RECORDED AND OUT OF RESPECT FOR THE PROCESS, IF YOUR MESSAGE HAS BEEN STATED AND YOU ARE COMFORTABLE WITH THE WAY IT WAS STATED, THEN YOU DO NOT HAVE

[03:30:04]

AND THERE IS ONE LAST THING. AS THE CHAIR OF THIS COURT, BECAUSE THERE ARE SO MANY THINGS TO BE DONE, SO MANY NAMES TO BE CALLED, WE WILL ASK FOR A SHARP, WHEN THE BUZZER BEEPS AT 3 MINUTES, I WON'T EVEN ASK YOU TO COMPLETE YOUR SENTENCE BUT I WILL ASK YOU TO HARD STOP. FOR THE SPIRIT OF RESPECT FOR EVERYONE'S TIME. HARD STOP AND WHEN THE BUZZER STOPS DON'T MAKE US TELL YOU TO STOP OR ANYTHING ELSE OR HAVE OUR POWERFUL BAILIFF YANK YOU FROM THE PODIUM.

JUST KIDDING. BUT MY POINT IS, WHEN IT BEEPS, PLEASE STOP AND BE RESPECTFUL OF THE ASK OF TODAY.

STARTING WITH THE FIRST ONE. >> JAVIER.

>> GOOD AFTERNOON, JUDGE AND COMMISSIONERS.

MY NAME IS JAVIER, I'M A CITIZEN OF -- [INAUDIBLE] YOU CANNOT BUILD A FUTURE IN A PLACE YOU'VE DESTROYED. AS OF A FEW DAYS AGO DESPITE THE MODERATELY WET SPRING, MOST OF THE COUNTY IS IN EXTREME DROUGHT. THIS DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT AGENDA K13 DOES NOT IMPROVE MY CONCERNS.

WITH THE CURRENT DEVELOPMENT PLAN BEFORE THE DENSITY VARIANTS, WATER SUPPLY AND WASTEWATER MANAGEMENT IS ALREADY AN ISSUE THAT HAS NOT BEEN RESOLVED FOR THE PROPOSED VARIANTS EXASPERATED THIS ISSUE FURTHER DURING THIS TIME OF EXTREME DROUGHT. BEFORE ANY VARIANTS IS CONSIDERED, IT IS IMPERATIVE THAT THE DEVELOPER SHOWS THAT THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLAN WILL NOT HAVE ANY IMPACT ON OUR DRINKING WATER. ONCE THE WATER IS CONTAMINATED, YOU CANNOT CLEAN IT UP. THE AQUIFER DOES LITTLE TO NO FILTRATION ON RUNOFF IN THIS AREA THIS DEVELOPER HAS SHOWN THAT IT IS ONLY CONCERNED ABOUT ITS BOTTOM LINE FROM REMOVING ITSELF FROM JURISDICTIONS TO AVOID ENFORCEMENT TO REGULATIONS, TO ASKING FOR A VARIANTS ON LOT SIZE FOR THE DEVELOPERS SHOWING THAT IT IS NOT HERE TO IMPROVE THE LIVES OF HAYS COUNTY CITIZENS BECAUSE THE DEVELOPER IS NOT GOING TO MOVE FAMILIES INTO THIS COMMUNITY AND DEAL WITH THE CONSEQUENCES.

DEVELOPERS PROFIT TODAY, TAXPAYERS PAID TO CLEAN UP THE GROUNDWATER CONTAMINATION. YOU CANNOT BUILD A FUTURE IN A PLACE THAT YOU HAVE DESTROYED. I URGE THIS COMMISSION TO REJECT THE DEVELOPMENT AND DENY THE ASSOCIATED DENSITY VARIANTS.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. >> CHAIR: THANK YOU.

>> BOBBY LIVINGSTON. >> AS BOBBY COMES UP, IN CASE YOU ARE MOTIVATED, HOLD YOUR APPLAUSE.

>> BOBBY LAVINSKY, REPRESENTING SAVE OUR SPRINGS ALLIANCE.

WE HAVE BEEN DEALING WITH THIS SITE FOR QUITE SOME TIME NOW AND ANOTHER 30 DAYS IS ANOTHER BITE AT THE APPLE AND I THINK THAT THIS DEVELOPMENT HAS GONE THROUGH AN ENTIRE ORCHARD OF APPLES AND WE LOOK AT THE DIFFERENT APPLICATIONS SUBMITTED THROUGHOUT THE YEARS AND THE BULLYING THEY HAVE DONE TO THE CITY OF HAYS AND AUSTIN AND ULTIMATELY I THINK THE ANSWER TO THE QUESTION THAT WE NEED TO ASK IS HOW CAN WE PRESERVE THIS LAND? THIS IS AN IRREPLACEABLE PART OF THE COUNTY. AN INCREDIBLY ENVIRONMENTALLY SENSITIVE AREA. I APPRECIATE THE CONCEPT OF CLUSTERING BUT HOW IT IS BEING EMPLOYED AND HOW IT IS BEING ASKED OF YOU TO APPROVE IT ACTUALLY CREATES MORE ENVIRONMENTAL HARM THAN WHAT WOULD OTHERWISE EXIST.

IT CANNOT BE IGNORED THAT THIS APPLICATION IS RELIANT ON A TEXAS LAND APPLICATION PERMIT WHICH WOULD SPRAY A EFFLUENT OVER THE RECHARGE ZONE IT CAN'T BE IGNORED IT'S RELIANT UPON GROUNDWATER FROM THE AQUIFER RESULTING IN 128 MILLIONS OF GALLONS OF WATER PER YEAR BEING PUMPED FROM A VERY LIMITED AQUIFER THAT WE DON'T KNOW TOO MUCH ABOUT BUT WE DO KNOW IT IS AN ANCIENT WATER SOURCE THAT DOES NOT RECHARGE.

AND WE CANNOT IGNORE THAT THE WAY THAT THIS APPLICANT IS PRESENTING THIS TO YOU IS THAT THEY ARE TRYING TO SAY THAT THEY ARE SHIFTING THEIR DEVELOPMENT ENTITLEMENTS ON ONE AREA THAT IS LESS ENVIRONMENTALLY SENSITIVE. THAT IS SOMEWHAT TRUE BUT NOT ENTIRELY TRUE BECAUSE WHAT THEY ARE ASKING IS TO INCREASE THE DEVELOPMENT INTENSITY THAT WOULD OTHERWISE OCCUR ON THIS SITE BY USING LOWER LOT SIZES BUT ALSO AND NOT TAKING INTO ACCOUNT THE FLOODPLAINS. NOT THE RECHARGE AREAS OR THE ECONOMIC REALITIES OF A PLAN THAT DOES NOT MAKE ANY SENSE OF WHAT THEY PUT IN THAT PAPER. IT'S RELIANT UPON VARIANCES.

TELLING YOU IT DOES NOT REQUIRE COUNTY VARIANCES.

[03:35:05]

NO TO THE VARIANTS REQUESTS. IF THEY WANT TO DEVELOP THEIR SITE, THEY HAVE THE PROPERTY RIGHTS TO DO THAT HERE BUT REALLY, ULTIMATELY, WHAT'S AT STAKE IS THEY ARE TRYING TO USE YOU AS LEVERAGE AGAINST THE CITY OF AUSTIN TO FORCE THE CITY OF AUSTIN TO PROVIDE WATER AND WASTEWATER SERVICE TO THIS SITE THAT THE CITY OF AUSTIN HAS PREVIOUSLY REJECTED.

THAT HAS BEEN PREVIOUSLY DENIED SERVICE TO THAT SITE BECAUSE THEY ARE CONCERNED ABOUT THE ENVIRONMENTAL SENSITIVITY OF THIS AREA. IT IS A DIFFICULT SITUATION THAT WE ARE IN BUT WE NEED TO BE WORKING TOGETHER AND WHERE I APPRECIATE THE CONVERSATIONS THAT WE WILL HAVE WITH JESSICA AND JUDGE COHEN AND I WOULD REALLY LOVE TO MEET WITH BOTH YOU'LL HAVE ME AND MEET WITH ME IN A COUPLE WEEKS.

THANK YOU. >> TOM LEHMAN.

>> MY FAMILY AND I HAVE LIVED IN NORTHERN HAYS COUNTY, THE CITY OF HAYS FOR 47 YEARS. MILESTONE BUILDERS IS PLANNING TO CONSTRUCT A SEWER WATER CLEANING PLANT TO SERVE THE HUNDREDS OF HOMES THEY ARE BUILDING OVER THE AQUIFER RECHARGE ZONE. THE WATER PRODUCED AT THE PLANT WILL BE PUMPED TO A SPRINTER SYSTEM THAT SPRAYS THOUSANDS OF GALLONS OF WATER PER DAY. THE WATER WILL SMELL CONSTANTLY EVERY DAY. IT WILL BE UNBEARABLE TO ME.

THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU,.

>> CANDACE BLAKE. >> HARVEY DAVIS.

SORRY, CANDACE IS HERE. >> I WROTE A WRITTEN NOTE LAST

NIGHT AFTER THE SPURS GAME. >> IT WAS A GREAT GAME.

[LAUGHTER] >> RESTART HER 3 MINUTES.

>> I DON'T EVEN NEED 3 MINUTES. MY HUSBAND AND I MOVED TO THE CITY OF HAYS IN 1985 WITH OUR THREE CHILDREN AND IT WAS PRETTY RURAL THEN. AND VERY DIFFERENT AND IT WAS A GIVEN THAT THE LAND THAT THEY NOW WANT TO RUIN WOULD NEVER BE DEVELOPED. IT'S FRAGILE AND UNIQUE AND OVER AN AQUIFER AND THEREFORE SOMETHING TO PROTECT CAREFULLY.

OCCASIONALLY IN THE PAST PEOPLE WOULD DEVELOP IT BUT WERE ALWAYS DENIED AND NOW THEY WANT YOU TO THROW THOSE PROTECTIONS OUT AND HAVE AN AGREEMENT THAT WOULD BE AT THE EXPENSE OF THE WATER, FRESH AIR, PLANTS AND ANIMALS THAT MAKE THIS LAND UNIQUE FOR SOME REASONS NOT TO APPROVE THIS DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT OR THEY DON'T HAVE WATER WELLS APPROVED BY THE AQUIFER CONSERVATION DISTRICT, NOR DO THEY HAVE PUMPING PERMITS FOR THE PLANT.

[INAUDIBLE] IT CONTINUES UNRESOVED.

COUNTY REQUIRES A MINIMUM LOT SIZE OF A THREE QUARTER ACRE OVER THE RECENT CHARGES AND MILESTONE WANTS A VARIANTS TO THIS REQUIREMENT SO THEY CAN SELL MANY MORE HOUSES.

PLEASE DO NOT APPROVE THIS VARIANTS, REGULATIONS ARE FOR PROTECTION. THIS LAND IS FRAGILE AND BEAUTIFUL AND HOME TO WILDLIFE AND WE DEPEND ON THE LAND HERE TREES AND PLANT AND IT SHOULD REMAIN IN ITS NATURAL STATE ACCORDING TO THE COUNTY DEVELOPMENT CODES.

THEY WANT TO SPRAY IN THE GREEN SPACE TAKING UP TO 60 ACRES OF THE 200 ACRES THEY SAY ARE UNDEVELOPED.

SEWAGE IS NOT NATURAL STATE FOR THE LAND.

POLLUTION CAN ENTER THROUGH THE POROUS ROCK AND THIN SOIL.

WE ARE IN A YEARS LONG DROUGHT NOW AND THE HOMES BUILT ON HIS PROPERTY WILL REQUIRE PUMPING 128 MILLIONS OF GALLONS OF GROUNDWATER ANNUALLY FROM THE LOWER TRINITY AQUIFER WHICH DOES NOT RECHARGE AND IS BECOMING LOWER AND LOWER.

WE CANNOT EVEN PRETEND THIS IS SUSTAINABLE.

THEY HAVE BEEN LYING TO US AND CHANGING THEIR PLANS AND DISREGARDING OPPORTUNITIES TO DO BETTER WITH THIS LAND FOR 15 YEARS AND THIS AGREEMENT IS AS BAD OR WORSE THAN ANY PREVIOUS ONES. I KNOW YOU ALL KNOW WHAT IS RIGHT. THIS DEVELOPMENT IS NOT EVEN CLOSE. I RESPECTFULLY ASK THE MILESTONE

DATE NOT BE APPROVED. >> THANK YOU.

>> HARVEY DAVIS. >> I GUESS IT'S GOOD AFTERNOON.

[03:40:11]

NOT WITH MILESTONES, THEY WEREN'T IN THE SCENE.

OF COURSE AT THAT TIME THE CONCEPT WAS THAT THIS WAS GOING TO BE ANOTHER SUNSET VALLEY MEGA APARTMENT -- RETAIL OUTLET SO THE DEVELOPER SAID IT WILL BE PART OF YOUR CITY AND YOU WILL AND YOU WILL BE LIKE SUNSET VALLEY.

A LITTLE CITY WITH TONS OF MONEY.

BUT OF COURSE, THAT DID NOT HAPPEN BECAUSE WE HAD THE 2008 FINANCIAL CRISIS. IT IS REALLY SAD THAT THESE DEVELOPMENTS ARE NOW THRUST UPON COUNTY GOVERNMENT BECAUSE OF THE LOSS AND THE ETJ LAW IS SO HORRIBLE THAT IT'S DONE SO MUCH DAMAGE TO CITIES. CITIES ARE NOW DISEMPOWERED FROM HAVING OVERSIGHT OF THE PROJECTS.

THEY HAVE BEEN DONE FOR MUCH LONGER A TIME AND OF COURSE WE ALL KNOW THAT CITIES HAD MORE ABILITIES TO MANAGE AND THE LIMITED POWERS OF COUNTY GOVERNMENTS AND I'M REALLY SORRY THAT THAT HAS HAPPENED AND OF COURSE WE HAVE NO REAL SAY IN THE PROJECT. EVEN THOUGH WE ARE GREATLY AFFECTED BY IT. I HOPE YOU DON'T APPROVE THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT FOR THANK YOU HAS VERY MUCH.

>> ROSE. >> HI, COMMISSIONERS.

THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU SAID, I APPRECIATE IT ONE THING, I AM 69 YEARS OLD AND DID NOT KNOW WHAT IT WAS.

I GREW UP IN THE COUNTRY. IF OUR AQUIFERS ARE BEING RECHARGED AND WE PUT IN PERMEABLE LAND COVER OVER IT, WE SHOULD -- IF WE AREN'T ALLOWING WATER TO GET INTO OUR AQUIFER, IT SHOULD MAKE ANYONE SAD HERE I LIVED IN A COMMUNITY FOR BOTH OF MY SONS LIVED IN THE COMMUNITY. MY GRANDCHILDREN LIVE IN THE COMMUNITY. PLEASE, LET'S KEEP IT SAFE FOR

THEM. >> THANK YOU.

>> JEFF KAUFMAN. >> YOU CAN CALL THE NEXT NAME AND THEY CAN AT LEAST GET READY. DAVID PATTERSON WILL FOLLOW HIM.

THANK YOU. >> GOOD AFTERNOON, JUDGE AND COMMISSIONERS. I'M JEFF KAUFMAN AND I SPEAK AS THE CHAIR OF THE KYLE BUDA AREA DEMOCRATS.

ALONG WITH MY TESTIMONY AND A WRITTEN HANDOUT WHICH IS A RESOLUTION THAT THE BOARD PASSED.

AND I AM NOT GOING TO READ THAT RESOLUTION TO THE PUBLIC.

THAT WOULD BE THE MOST BORING THING YOU GUYS HAVE SEEN ALL DAY BECAUSE BUT I DO WANT TO PARAPHRASE IT A LITTLE BIT AND THE FIRST THING I LIKE TO SAY IS THAT YOU WILL HEAR ECHOES OF WHAT I WILL CALL THE ONE BIG BEAUTIFUL RESOLUTION IN OUR RESOLUTION. IN SUMMARY, WE HAVE TWO BASIC MESSAGES DON'T RUSH INTO THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMET BETWEEN HAYS COUNTY AND HAYS COMMON LAND INVESTMENT LP OTHERWISE KNOWN AS MILESTONE. NUMBER 2, WORK WITH OTHER

[03:45:03]

IT SHOULD NOT MOVE FORWARD UNLESS IT HAS REAL SAFEGUARDS FOR THE EDWARDS AQUIFER RECHARGE ZONE AND THE TRINITY AQUIFER WHICH WE KNOW SUCH LITTLE ABOUT AND LONG TERM WATER QUALITY.

WE CALL ON HAYS COUNTY TO USE EVERY LEGAL TOOL THAT IT HAS TO WORK WITH OTHER REGIONAL GOVERNMENT ENTITIES AND WATER AUTHORITIES AND TO REJECT ANY AGREEMENT THAT DOES NOT SERIOUSLY PROTECT WATER RESOURCES AND PROVIDE FOR RESPONSIBLE GROWTH. THE RESOLUTION THAT YOU HAVE IN YOUR HANDS PROVIDES A LINK TO A GREAT REPORT CALLED COUNTY TOOLS FOR MANAGING GROWTH WHICH THIS COURT AUTHORIZED IN 2023 AND IT WAS COMMISSIONED BY YOU AND SHOWS IMPORTANT POWERS THAT BIG COUNTIES DO HAVE AND DO RETAIN TO REGULATE GROWTH INCLUDING THE AUTHORITIES RELATED TO WATER AND DEVELOPMENT REQUIREMENTS.

IT'S A GOOD PRIMER THAT CAN HELP GUIDE THIS DISCUSSION GOING FORWARD. FINALLY, THE BOARD OPPOSES STATE LAWS THAT RESTRICT LOCAL CONTROL.

FOR INSTANCE, DEVELOPERS ARE ALLOWED TO SIDESTEP STRICTER CITY PROTECTIONS AS MILESTONE HAS DONE REPEATEDLY BY SHIFTING PROJECTS INTO LESS REGULATED COUNTY ETJS.

WE WANT ALL LOCAL COUNTY AND REGIONAL AUTHORITIES TO COLLABORATE AND WORK WITH THE TEXAS LEGISLATURE TO AMEND STATE LAWS LIKE THE DEATH STAR LAW AND SB 2038 THAT HAVE WEAKENED LOCAL CONTROL AND TURNED AUTHORITIES TO LOCAL GOVERNMENTS.

THANK YOU FOR ALL YOU DO TO PROTECT OUR ENVIRONMENT AND OUR

WATER. >> THANK YOU.

>> I BELIEVE DAVID HAS LEFT. HE HAD ANOTHER APPOINTMENT.

>> THANK YOU. DENISE AMBER WEBER.

>> FOLLOWED BY. >> BRETT MUNDY.

>> THANK YOU FOR LISTENING TO THE CITIZENS TODAY I APPRECIATE IT JUDGE AND COMMISSIONERS. MY NAME IS AMBER AND I HAVE LIVED THREE PROPERTY LINES AWAY FROM THE PROJECT IN QUESTION FOR THE PAST 13 YEARS. I HAVE HAD THE PLEASURE OF SERVING ON MY OWN PERSONAL CITY COUNCIL AS OUR FORMER MAYOR HARVEY DISCUSSED AND DISCUSSING ALL OF THIS WITH SOUTHWEST AND INITIALLY WITH MILESTONE.

OUR CITY IS NOT NEW TO DEVELOPER AGREEMENTS AND VARIANTS REQUESTS. WE HAVE HEARD THEM AND WE'VE HAD ONE RESULT IN A LOCAL BUSINESS MOVING IN THIRD NOT A LARGE DEVELOPMENT, LOW TRAFFIC IMPACT. THE SECOND RESULT WAS WHERE WE ARE HERE TODAY FOR ALL OF US BEING HERE.

THE REASON WHY THEY HAVE DONE THIS IS BECAUSE NOW THEY WANT TO PUT IT IN YOUR HANDS FOR IT THEY HAVE TAKEN IT OUT OF OURS BECAUSE AS MAYOR, WE ARE SMALL BUT MIGHTY AND I ENJOY THAT PHRASE WHEN SHE USES IT BECAUSE I AM NOT A PROFESSIONAL ON WATER. I WISH I WAS.

I AM A MOTHER OF AN 18-YEAR-OLD SON AND I HAVE NEIGHBORS WITH CHILDREN AND I HAVE ALL GROWN UP.

I WILL TALK TO YOU TODAY ABOUT SOMETHING TOTALLY DIFFERENT THAN THE WATER BECAUSE THERE ARE LOTS OF PROFESSIONALS HERE THAT CAN TALK TO YOU ALL ABOUT WATER HERE THERE ARE NO LESS THAN FIVE NEIGHBORHOODS THAT DUMP INTO THIS INTERSECTION ALREADY WITH APARTMENT COMPLEXES GOING UP HERE I ONLY WORK A MILE AND A HALF AWAY. WHEN I COME HOME FROM WORK, I HAVE TO SIT IN THE CENTER LANE OF 1626 FOR 4 MINUTES.

THAT'S OVER THAN THE AMOUNT OF TIME THAT WE ARE ALL GOING TO GET TO TALK THIS 4 MINUTES, WHITE KNUCKLED WITH CARS PASSING BY AT 60 TO 70 MILES PER HOUR. I KNOW THE SPEED LIMIT IS 55 BUT NOBODY DOES IT BECAUSE THEY ARE COMING OFF OF 45 AND EVERYONE IS IN A HURRY TO GET HOME AND I HAVE A HIGH APPRECIATION FOR EVERYONE WANTING TO GET HOME HOWEVER IT'S AN EXTREMELY DANGEROUS AREA FOR US TO CONTINUE TO ADD MORE RESIDENTS ESPECIALLY YOUNG FAMILIES WHERE IT WILL CONTINUE TO GROW AND WE HAVE INEXPERIENCED DRIVERS ON A HEAVY ROADWAY WHERE WE ARE ALREADY SUFFERING FROM ACCIDENTS.

SO I APPRECIATE THE FIGHT FOR THE WATER.

I BELIEVE IN THE WATER. I DON'T HAVE A GARDEN ANY MORE BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN IN A DROUGHT FOR TEN YEARS.

I CAN'T EVEN GROW MY OWN FOOD IN MY BACKYARD SO I HAVE A HIGH APPRECIATION FOR THE WATER. AND EXTREMELY HIGH APPRECIATION

[03:50:02]

CONSIDERATION AS WELL. >> BRETT MUNDY FOLLOWED BY CI

CINDY. >> MY NAME IS BRETT MUNDY AND I OWN A DOG BOARDING AND FACILITY BORDERING THE BEAUTIFUL PROPOSED FUTURE SEWAGE FIELD. I'M SO EXCITED ABOUT IT.

AFTER THE LAST MEETING WE HAD WHERE YOU TRIED TO GIVE NOTICE TO PUSH THIS DEVELOPER THROUGH FOR LOT VARIANCES, YOU DID THE RIGHT THING AND GAVE US ALL PROPER NOTICE SO THANK YOU FOR THAT AND BECAUSE OF THAT WE HAVE A NEW SPEAKER TODAY WHICH IS CINDY WILLIAM, I'M VERY EXCITED FOR YOU TO HEAR HER TALK HERE CINDY OWNS THE 160-ACRE FARM THAT MILESTONE IS SALIVATING OVER. THEY'VE ALREADY BUILT AN ENTIRE DEVELOPMENT PLAN AROUND THAT AND THEY HAVE NOT SHARED IT WITH YOU BUT I HAVE SEEN IT AND IT HAS HUNDREDS OF HOUSES THAT YOU ARE NOT AWARE OF. CINDY IS NOT GOING TO SELL HER RANCH BUT MILESTONE THINKS THEY NEEDED TO HIT THE RIGHT NUMBER SO THEY JUST KEEP TAKING HER UP IN HELICOPTERS TO BRAG OVER THEIR PAST DEVELOPMENTS THAT THEY'VE MADE AND THEY LIKE TO SHOW HER THAT BUT JOKE'S ON THEM BECAUSE CINDY IS IMPRESSED BY NATURE AND TREES NOT ROOFTOPS AND HOUSING DEVELOPMENTS BUT THEY CONTINUE TO QUARTER BECAUSE THEY ARE BILLIONAIRES AFTER ALL.

THAT'S WHAT THEY ARE USED TO. THEY GET MONEY AND USE IT TO GET WHAT THEY WANT BECAUSE EVERYONE HAS A PRICE.

DO YOU GUYS HAVE A PRICE? CINDY IS NOT FOR SALE AND NEITHER ARE ANY OF US. OUR MOVEMENT IN HAYS COUNTY WILL CONTINUE TO GROW AND GET LOUDER AND IT'S FOR THE SAME REASONS THAT PEOPLE IN EVERY STATE ACROSS THIS NATION ARE GETTING LOUDER, WATER. DATA CENTERS, DEVELOPERS, BILLIONAIRES AND AS AN INDEPENDENT VOTER I WILL FOLLOW THE CANDIDATE WHO PROTECTS THE WATER AND I WILL BE LOUD AND I WILL BE OBNOXIOUS. MILESTONE IS NOT HONEST WITH YOU. THIS ISN'T THEIR FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN. THEIR PLAN IS EXPANSION SO IF YOU GRANT THESE QUARTER ACRE LOTS FOR THIS DEVELOPMENT IT WILL BE FOR ANOTHER DEVELOPMENT THAT THEY CONTINUE TO BUY LAND AROUND THEM HERE THE CITY OF EXACT EFFECT LAST NIGHT ASKING YOU TO TABLE THIS AND I'M GUESSING THAT'S WHY YOU PROBABLY DID. THEY ARE CONSIDERING EXPANDING THEIR CREWS LAND SITS IN THAT? MY LAND.

ISN'T THAT INTERESTING TO YOU GUYS? AND WHAT'S INTERESTING WHEN WE DON'T SELL OUT? YOU WILL HEAR FROM A LOT OF PEOPLE TODAY WITH VERY COMPELLING ARGUMENTS AS TO WHY YOU SHOULD VOTE NO ON THIS AGENDA. I'M GLAD THAT YOU TABLED IT BUT I WILL BE HERE IN 30 DAYS BECAUSE IT SEEMS LIKE WE WILL JUST KEEP HAVING THIS DISCUSSION WITH YOU GUYS.

I'M HERE TO DISCUSS YOUR JOB YOUR JOB IS TO LISTEN TO THE CONSTITUENTS. THAT IS US, NOT THE BILLIONAIRES. YOUR JOB IS TO READ THE FACTS.

I'M AFRAID SOME OF YOU MIGHT BE MISGUIDED TO WHOM YOUR CONSTITUENTS REALLY ARE. YOU WORK FOR US.

OR MAYBE YOU WORK FOR THE BILLIONAIRES, I DON'T KNOW AND MAYBE SOME OF YOU WILL WORK FOR THEM WHEN YOU LEAVE THIS OFFICE BUT LOOK AT THE PEOPLE HERE AND ACROSS THE COUNTRY BECAUSE WE ARE ORGANIZED AND UNITING ACROSS PARTY LINES.

IT IS UP EVERYWHERE INCLUDING HERE AND WE OUTNUMBER THEM AND I SUGGEST YOU CHOOSE PEOPLE OVER PROFIT AND DO YOUR JOB OR LOSE YOUR JOB. THE REST OF US ARE REQUIRED TO ACTUALLY DO OUR JOB OR WE GET FIRED HERE THERE IS NO BILLIONAIRE SUGAR DADDIES PAYING US TO NOT DO OUR JOBS.

DO THE RIGHT THING. >> CINDY, FOLLOWED BY CARSON

GILCHRIST. >> HI I'M CINDY AND I'M FOURTH GENERATION ON THAT PROPERTY. I HAVE STOMPED ALL OVER MY PROPERTY CHASING COWS IN MY 67 YEARS.

I HAVE SEEN ALL THE CARS AND ALL THE CAVES SOME YOU CAN EVEN SEE STEAM COMING OUT OF IN THE WINTER TIME WHEN IT'S REALLY COLD SO I KNOW THERE ARE MANY OF THEM THERE ON MY PROPERTY AND THE ADJACENT PROPERTY AND THEY JOIN ME ON THE EAST SIDE AND ON THE SOUTH SIDE SO I'M PROBABLY ONE OF THE ONES THAT WILL HAVE THE MOST IMPACT. THESE GUYS, THEY ARE TRYING TO GET MY PROPERTY AS WELL. THEY HAVE TAKEN US UP IN HELICOPTERS SHOWING US ALL OF THEIR PROPERTIES AND ALL OF THEIR DEVELOPMENTS AND THEN GIVEN US REPORTS OF WHAT OUR PROPERTY IS WORTH AND WHAT THEY WOULD BE WILLING TO GET US FOR IT AND OVER MY DEAD BODY HERE YOU WILL HAVE TO HAUL ME OUT OF HERE FIRST. BUT ALL THEY ARE INTERESTED IN IS AS MUCH MONEY AS THEY CAN MAKE.

[03:55:04]

SO I ASK YOU ALL TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE RESPONSIBLE DEVELOPMENT IN OUR AREA. I THINK THAT WRAPS IT UP HERE

THANK YOU. >> CARSON GILCHRIST FOLLOWED BY

LYDIA BRIAN VALDEZ. >> GOOD AFTERNOON GREG, YOUR HONOR. GOOD AFTERNOON COMMISSIONERS.

MY NAME CARSON AND I AM REPRESENTING SAVE OUR SPRINGS ALLIANCE. I WANT TO TALK SPECIFICALLY ABOUT THE VARIANTS REQUEST FOR THE APPLICANT WE GRANT THIS REQUEST AND THEY MUST DO FOUR THINGS.

FIRST, IT MUST SHOW WHY THIS PROPERTY SHOULD BE LESS REGULATED THAN OTHER PROPERTIES. THE APPLICANT ARGUES THAT IT DIFFERS FROM ITS NEIGHBORS BECAUSE THE PROPERTY LIES WITHIN THE AQUIFER RECHARGE ZONE. IN OTHER WORDS THE APPLICANT IS STATING THAT WE SHOULD HAVE MORE LAX REGULATIONS ON RECHARGE ZONE THAN ON OTHER LAND. THIS LOGIC IS EXACTLY BACKWARDS FOR THE RECHARGE ZONE NEEDS LESS DEVELOPMENT GET FEWER HOUSES BUILT ON IT AND LESS WASTEWATER BEING DISCHARGED ONTO IT THE APPLICANT HAS ALREADY FAILED ON THE FIRST OF 4 FINDINGS.

SECOND THE APPLICANT NEEDED TO SHOW THE ENFORCEMENT OF THE MINIMUM LOT SIZE REGULATION WOULD DENY IT THE PRIVILEGE OR SAFETY AFFORDED BY SIMILARLY SITUATED PROPERTIES HERE'S THE APPLICANT RESPONDS WITH A THREAT STATING THAT IF THEY FOLLOW THE REGULATIONS IT WOULD HAVE TO DEVELOP THE ENTIRE PROPERTY AND THIS IS SIMPLY NOT TRUE. THE APPLICANT WOULD NOT DO THIS BECAUSE THEY CANNOT DO THIS HERE THIS IS A BLUFF.

THE APPLICANT CANNOT DEVELOP ABOUT 150 ACRES BECAUSE THERE'S A FLOODPLAIN CONTAINING ENVIRONMENTAL FEATURES.

WE ALL KNOW BECAUSE THE APPLICANT KNOWS THIS AND IT IS A LIE TO CLAIM IT WILL DEVELOP THE WHOLE PROPERTY.

TO MAKE ITS MONEY THE APPLICANT PLANS ON CRAMMING HOMES ONTO SMALL LOTS WHERE THE LAND CAN BE DEVELOPED.

THIRD, THE APPLICANT NEEDED TO SHOW HOW A VARIANT WOULD NOT BE DETRIMENTAL TO PUBLIC HEALTH SAFETY AND WELFARE.

THE RESPONSE FAILS TO ADDRESS LAND AND WATER CAUSED BY CHOPPING TREES, POURING CONCRETE AND SPRAYING SEWAGE ONTO THE SOIL. LASTLY THE APPLICANT MUST SHOW HOW THIS SUPPOSED HARDSHIP IT WILL ENDURE IS NOT THE RESULT OF ITS OWN ACTION BUT ITS ANSWER DOES NOT EVEN HAVE A RESPONSE.

IF IT HAD RESPONDED TO THE QUESTION, IT WOULD HAVE HAD TO ADMIT THAT THE HARDSHIP WAS ENTIRELY OF ITS OWN MAKING.

THE APPLICANT KNEW THIS PROPERTY WAS IN THE RECHARGE ZONE BEFORE BUYING THE LAND. IT KNEW THAT HAYS COUNTY LAWS AND REGULATIONS COULD APPLY INCLUDING THE MINIMUM LOT SIZE REGULATION. THE APPLICANT GAMBLE THAT IT WOULD BE ABLE TO GET AWAY WITH IGNORING THE REGULATIONS ANYWAY.

IT IS THE HARDSHIP THE APPLICANT BROUGHT ON ITSELF IN CONCLUSION, IT FAILS ALL FOR REQUIRED SHOWINGS FOR MINIMUM LOT REQUIREMENT. THEY ARE LYING TO US IN GAMBLING HOPING TO MAKE A QUICK BUCK. YOU MUST REJECT THIS VARIANS.

THANK YOU, YOUR HONOR. >> LYDIA VALDEZ.

>> SOMEONE IS MISSING THEIR GLASSES.

GOOD AFTERNOON, I'M GLAD IT'S NOT GOOD EVENING OR CLOSE.

>> THANK YOU FOR GIVING US THIS TIME TO PRESENT.

I AM LYDIA BRYAN VALDEZ, THE MAYOR OF THE SMALL BUT VERY MIGHTY CITY OF HAYS. WE HAVE 93 HOMES, WONDERFUL PEOPLE IN OUR COMMUNITY. WE ARE A SMALL GENERAL VELOCITY, THE NORTHERN PART OF HAYS HAYS COUNTY.

WE HAVE SPENT OUR TIME AND RESOURCES OPPOSING THIS DEVELOPMENT. WE ARE IN A DAVID AND GOLIATH FIGHT FOR -- [INAUDIBLE] 20 YEARS WE HAVE BEEN FIGHTING THEY ARE CARRYING A COST FOR THEIR PROPERTY AND FOR THEIR DEVELOPMENT AND WE ARE EXPANDING RESOURCES THAT ARE MINIMAL. WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF MONEY AND IT'S A BIG SITUATION. I MET RECENTLY WITH WALT SMITH.

CANDACE BLAKE AND I DID AND COMMISSIONER SMITH SAID THIS IS THE BEST DEAL WE WILL GET AND WE NEED TO DO THIS AND IT WILL PASS HERE WE DON'T NEED TO DO THIS. I FIRMLY DISAGREE.

OUR RESIDENTS, WE ARE ALL STRONGLY OPPOSED TO THIS.

THIS IS NOT IN THE BEST INTEREST BUT WE HAVE TWO GROUNDWATER WELLS AT RISK OF BEING TAINTED FOR OUR EDWARDS AQUIFER RECHARGE ZONE IS AT RISK OF BEING TAINTED.

WE HAVE A WATER EMERGENCY IN OUR CITY AND WE MAY HAVE A BURST

[04:00:01]

IF YOU ALLOW THIS TO HAPPEN AND THEN DESTROY OUR WATER SUPPLY.

THERE IS NO REASON FOR THIS PROJECT TO GO FORWARD.

IT SHOULD NOT. IT IS THE DEFINITION OF INSANITY TO ALLOW IT TO GO FORWARD HERE WE ARE IN A DROUGHT LIKE WE HAVE NEVER SEEN BEFORE. AND WE ARE STILL SAYING LET'S ADD ANOTHER 300 HOMES AND SURE CALCULATE THE BILLIONAIRE DO THIS. WE HAVE BEEN HERE A LONG TIME AND WE WILL CONTINUE IF WE HAVE TO COME HERE EVERY 30 DAYS AND SLEEP IN THE PARKING LOT AND DO MEDIA AND DO WHATEVER WE HAVE TO DO BECAUSE WE WILL DO IT HERE WE WILL CONTINUE TO OPPOSE PIERCE

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. >> KRISTINE, FOLLOWED BY LIZ.

>> GOOD AFTERNOON, COMMISSIONERS AND JUDGE.

MY NAME IS CHRISTINE AND I AM A RESIDENT OF THE CITY OF HAYS.

I COME BEFORE YOU TO RESPECTFULLY ASK THAT YOU VOTE NO ON ITEM K13 AND REJECT THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT IN ITS CURRENT FORM. COMMISSIONER SMITH, WHEN YOU WERE SPEAKING ABOUT THE HEALTH DISTRICT, I WAS ENCOURAGED TO HEAR THAT YOU ARE PRIORITIZING THE PUBLIC'S OPINION BECAUSE I AM SURE THAT YOU ARE FINDING THE OVERWHELMING MAJORITY OF YOUR CONSTITUENTS DO NOT SUPPORT THIS DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.

THIS AGREEMENT SEEKS APPROVAL OF VARIANCES TO ESTABLISH LOT SIZE REQUIREMENTS FOR THOSE VARIANCES DESERVE INDEPENDENT CONSIDERATION AND SCRUTINY. COMBINING THESE ISSUES INTO A SINGLE APPROVAL RISKS BYPASSING THE LEVEL OF REVIEW THAT SUCH SIGNIFICANT REQUESTS WARRANT. THERE ARE ALSO ONGOING LEGAL PROCEEDINGS RELATED TO MILESTONES, TEXAS LAND APPLICATION PERMITS AS YOU'VE HEARD.

THOSE PROCEEDINGS REMAIN UNRESOLVED AND THAT HEARING IS CURRENTLY ABATED DUE TO MILESTONE INACCURATELY REPRESENTING SPRAY FIELD LOCATION.

APPROVING THIS DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT BEFORE THOSE MATTERS ARE RESOLVED WOULD BE PREMATURE IRRESPONSIBLE AND WOULD DENY BOTH THE COURT AND THE PUBLIC THE BENEFIT OF A COMPLETE RECORD HERE I LOVE THE ANALOGY THAT WAS READ IN A PUBLIC COMMENT EARLIER ABOUT HAVING TO PUT YOUR PANTS ON BEFORE YOU PUT YOUR SHOES ON DEREK MILESTONE DOES NOT HAVE THEIR PANTS ON.

MILESTONE PRESENTED THIS ITEM LAST MONTH WITHOUT PROPER PUBLIC NOTICE. THEY ARE FAMILIAR WITH THE RULES THAT APPLY TO THEM AND FREQUENTLY CHOOSE TO CIRCUMVENT THEM. THIS IS REFLECTIVE OF THEIR INTENTIONS. PROTECTING THE EDWARDS AQUIFER IS NOT ONLY AN ENVIRONMENTAL CONCERN, IT'S A PUBLIC HEALTH AND SAFETY RESPONSIBILITY. THIS NEW DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT IS BEING PRESENTED AS A GIFT TO US.

HIGH DENSITY DEVELOPMENT IS NOT A GIFT TO US.

SEWAGE BEING SPRAYED OVER THE RECHARGE ZONE IS NOT A GIFT TO US DEPICTING A SPRAY FIELD AND FLOOD IS MISLEADING AND NOT A GIFT TO US. THE NARRATIVE THAT THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING THAT CAN BE DONE TO PREVENT THIS IS OVERWHELMINGLY FALSE. THE REQUESTED VARIANCES ARE DISCRETIONARY APPROVALS. MILESTONE DOES NOT HAVE TO BE GRANTED A VARIANTS TO PAD THEIR POCKETS AT THE EXPENSE OF THE MANY RESIDENTS WHO WILL BE NEGATIVELY IMPACTED HERE THIS COURT HAS BOTH THE AUTHORITY AND THE RESPONSIBILITY TO CAREFULLY EVALUATE WHETHER THIS DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT SERVES A PUBLIC INTEREST. SPOILER ALERT IT DOESN'T HERE AS PUBLIC SERVANTS, IT IS YOUR OBLIGATION TO SAFEGUARD THE HEALTH SAFETY AND WELFARE OF YOUR CONSTITUENTS.

I URGE YOU TO PRIORITIZE PEOPLE OVER PROFIT AND VOTE NO TO THIS DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

>> THANK YOU. LIZ FOLLOWED BY ALANA.

>> HI, I LIVE IN THE WIMBERLEY AREA AND I AM AGAINST THIS PARTICULAR DEVELOPMENT AND LET ME TELL YOU WHY THERE'S OBVIOUSLY THE PEOPLE SITTING IN THIS AUDIENCE ARE NOT FOR SALE BUT I THINK THAT DEVELOPER MIGHT BE AND THERE MIGHT BE A WIN-WIN FOR THIS COMMUNITY. YOU CAN PROTECT YOUR CITIZENS PUBLIC HEALTH AND WELFARE AND THEIR PROPERTIES BY SIMPLY GOING AND SPEAKING WITH THE DEVELOPER. YOU HAVE A WILLING PARTNER WITH THE CITY OF AUSTIN, STARTING TO BUY UP THE DEVELOPMENT RIGHTS BECAUSE WE DID THIS 20 YEARS AGO AND WE BOUGHT THE DEVELOPMENT RIGHTS TO PROTECT THE AQUIFER RECHARGE AREA.

[04:05:02]

ONCE YOU HAVE DONE THAT, THAT IS IN PERPETUITY.

THIS STAYS THE WAY IT IS. IT FUNCTIONS THE WAY IT NEEDS TO FUNCTION. AND I AM URGING THIS COURT NOT JUST TO DENY THIS BUT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH A WIN-WIN SITUATION FOR YOUR COMMUNITY, STAND WITH YOUR COMMUNITY AND A WINNING SITUATION FOR THE COMMUNITY TO. WE GET EXACTLY WHAT WE WANT.

>> GOOD AFTERNOON, I LIVE ABOUT A MILE FROM THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT AND THE DA HAS GLARING FLAWS THAT THE COURT CAN DEFINITIVELY SAY NO TO BECAUSE IT VIOLATES COUNTY CODE.

OTHER CODES HAVE DELIVERED AND I WANT TO GO ON TO WHAT'S NEXT.

[INAUDIBLE] >> HE WILL SHOW YOU 200 ACRES OF OPEN SPACE PROTECTING WOODLAND AND CREEKS IRRIGATING THIS LAND WITH TREATED WASTEWATER WILL NOT PROTECT EITHER THE WOODLANDS OR THE CREEK OR THE AQUIFER BENEATH.

HE WILL FLUSH A DEVELOPMENT AND ADVERTISEMENT AND ADVERTISE THAT IT IS CODE COMPLIANT. THIS IS LIE NUMBER 3.

THERE ARE AT LEAST SEVEN FLAG LOTS WHICH ARE NOT PERMITTED BY COUNTY DEVELOPMENT CODE SO THIS DEVELOPMENT PLAN WOULD INDEED REQUIRE VARIANCES SO NO, THE COUNTY WOULD NOT BE STATUTORILY OBLIGATED TO APPROVE FIX THE OTHER REPRESENTATIVE FOR MILESTONE WILL THEN SHOW ANOTHER SCARY ALTERNATIVE WITH COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT WHETHER IT'S RETAIL OR APARTMENTS BUT WHAT I SEE IS THAT THERE ARE NO WELLS, NO WASTEWATER TREATMENT FOR THE RED BUILDINGS. AGAIN THIS IS SOMETHING THAT IS THROWN TOGETHER WITH THE PURPOSE OF BEING A SCARE TACTIC TO SCARE THE CITY OF HAYS, AUSTIN AND HAYS COUNTY.

LIE NUMBER 4, WHEN YOU ARE SHOWN THE COMPARISON MAP, OF THE CLUSTER DEVELOPMENT PARTNERSHIP WITH THE COUNTY VERSUS THE EMPTY THREATS CACTUS REMEMBER THAT A QUARTER OF THIS OPEN SPACE IS BEING SPRAYED WITH EFFLUENT. WATER QUALITY IMPACT IS COST PROHIBITED TO DRILL 100 WELLS. SEPTIC SYSTEM SOMEHOW HAVE A BAD REPUTATION BUT IT HAS DEVELOPED DRAMATICALLY AND OVER THE LAST FEW DECADES WHICH HAS ELIMINATED MOST OF THE RISKS ASSOCIATED WITH OLD DILAPIDATED CENTERS THERE IS NO RESEARCH THAT SHOWS THAT A PROPERLY FUNCTIONING OSSF -- SELL WITH THE REQUIREMENTS, LARGER LOTS REDUCED DENSITY AND THAT IS THE BIGGEST FACTOR IN HOW WASTEWATER WILL AFFECT THE RECHARGE ZONE.

WITH THEIR DA, THERE WOULD BE PIPING UNDERGROUND ACROSS THE CREEK AND FLOODPLAIN SO RIGHT THERE THEY SAY NONE CARRYING TREATED WASTEWATER TO IRRIGATION FIELDS AND THAT IS LIE NUMBER 5.

I'M NOT SURE WHAT THEY MEAN BY MULTIPLE CREEK CROSSINGS WITH THE AGREEMENT BUT I SEE OUR SINGLE FAMILY LOTS THAT WOULD HAVE EXORBITANT AND COST PROHIBITIVE HOME INSURANCE BECAUSE OF A LARGE PERCENTAGE OF THE LOT BEING IN THE FLOODPLAIN.

WHEN YOU SEE THE WASTEWATER SYSTEM SLIDES, CONSIDER THAT ALL THE WOODLAND THAT IS HERE IS GOING TO BE CHOPPED DOWN FOR THE IRRIGATION FIELDS, FINALLY, THE FINANCIAL DIFFERENCE THAT GOES ALONG WITH THIS THEY'RE REDUCING FROM 346 TO 102 LOTS MEAN SELLING FOR THREE PRICE TO MAKE THEIR PROJECT PENCIL FINANCIALLY PURE THEY CAN'T DO WHAT THEY WANT WITHOUT THE HIGH DENSITY IT'S HIGHER THAN WHAT THE LAND CAN SUSTAIN.

IT CAN'T BE DONE WITHOUT ANY COUNTY OR CITY WITHOUT PERMISSION TO VIOLATE CODES FOR ANY GOVERNMENT ENTITY -- MILESTONE WON'T BE ABLE TO DEVELOP THIS LAND FOR.

>> I KNOW IT SOUNDS TOUGH, BUT YOU DID THE RIGHT THING.

>> FOLLOWED BY JUSTIN. >> GOOD AFTERNOON MY NAME IS DARLENE STARR. I LIVE .19 MILES FROM THE PROPOSAL. I'M ON THE PRIVATE -- I. WANT TO ADDRESS THE 200 ACRES PITCHED AS OPEN SPACE IN THIS DATE -- WHICH IS ALSO BEEN USED TO CALCULATE THEIR PERCENTAGES IT IS A RUSE AS OTHER PEOPLE HAVE BROUGHT UP MORE THAN A QUARTER OF THE LAND IS ALSO SIMULTANEOUSLY SHOWN ON THE PLAN AS THE DISTRIBUTION AREA FOR CHEMICALLY TREATED EFFLUENT.

WOULD YOU PAUSE WHILE I GET MY GLASSES? COULD YOU DO THAT? SORRY.

>> THAT'S OKAY. I WENT NORTH OF 50, AND NOW I

USE READING GLASSES. >> YOU CAN RESTART ME.

THEY ARE SHOWING THIS AS OPEN SPACE BUT MORE THAN A QUARTER OF THIS IS GOING TO BE FOR THE TREATED.

THE DEVELOPER WOULD HAVE TO BRING PIPES THROUGH THIS AREA

[04:10:02]

THIS DOES NOT MEET THE COUNTY CODE DEFINITION OF OPEN SPACE WHICH REQUIRES LAND TO REMAIN IN ITS NATURAL STATE.

WE HEAR A LOT OF TALK ABOUT LAND OWNER AND PROPERTY OWNER RIGHTS IN TEXAS BUT TOO OFTEN ONLY HERE IN REGARDS TO DEVELOPERS AND OTHER MONEYED INTERESTS FOR THOSE OF US WHO DEPEND ON THE WATER FROM THIS AREA OF THE RECHARGE ZONE ALSO HAVE PROPERTY RIGHTS HERE THERE ARE MORE THAN 75 PRIVATE AND 17 COMMUNITY WELLS AT RISK FROM THIS DEVELOPMENT.

WE HAVE RIGHTS TO CLEAN AND ABUNDANT WATER AND RIGHTS TO UNPOLLUTED AIR FREE FROM BACTERIAL CONTAMINATION WE HAVE RIGHTS TO SAFETY FROM STORM RUNOFF CAUSED BY IRRESPONSIBLE BUILDING AN AREA ALREADY KNOWN TO FLOOD.

WE HAVE RIGHTS TO HAVE OUR HOME SPACE NOT DEGRADED TO MAXIMIZE SOMEONE'S PROFITS. NO ONE ON THIS WAS ELECTED OR TASKED WITH MAKING DECISIONS TO MAXIMIZE THE PROFITS OF A CORPORATION. TO PROTECT WHAT HAS TO BE PROTECTED FOR LIFE AND LIBERTY IN THE PURSUIT OF HAPPINESS I KNOW IT IS AN OATH YOU TAKE SERIOUSLY.

THANK YOU FOR LISTENING TO ALL OF US WHO HAVE COMMENTED TODAY WHO WORE BLUE TO SUPPORT AQUIFER RECHARGE PROTECTION -- WHICH IS A CRITICAL NATIONAL INFRASTRUCTURE ESSENTIAL TO OUR SURVIVAL CAN I SEE A SHOW OF HANDS FROM THOSE OF YOU WHO CAME TO SUPPORT AQUIFER RECHARGE PROTECTION TODAY? WE ALL HAVE THE COURAGE TO SHOW UP HERE TODAY.

SOME OF US HAD TO TAKE THE DAY OFF WORK WHEN WE COULDN'T AFFORD IT. SOME OF US HAD TO FIND BABYSITTERS AND CAREGIVERS FOR AGING PARENTS.

SOME OF US HAD TO OVERCOME FEARS OF PUBLIC SPEAKING OR BEING SEEN. THAT TAKES COURAGE.

WE ASK THE SAME COURAGE OF YOU TO STAND UP FOR WHAT IS RIGHT FOR THIS COMMUNITY, YOUR CONSTITUENTS.

MEMBERS OF THE COURT, YOU HAVE THE GROUNDS AND TOOLS TO SAY NO TO THIS TODAY. THANK YOU IN ADVANCE FOR DOING SO AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE.

>> THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU FOR MY GLASSES.

>> THANK YOU FOR PARTICIPATING. >> TO FOLLOW WILL BE JO

FREELAND. >> THANK YOU JUDGE AND COMMISSIONERS I WANT TO ADD SOME COLOR TO THE FACT THAT THIS IS THE APPLICATION THAT WAS SUBMITTED SHOWING THAT THEY HAVE CARSON EASEMENT THAT RUNS THROUGH THE SPRAY FIELDS.

I JUST WANT TO ADD SOME COLOR TO THE FACT THAT THE SCARE TACTIC OF PROPOSING DEVELOPMENTS THAT WOULD GO IN IF YOU DO NOT APPROVE DOES IT'S NOT IMPOSSIBLE THERE IS AN EASEMENT THAT RUNS RIGHT THROUGH THIS DEVELOPMENT AS WELL AS THE FEATURES.

IN ADDITION TO THE FLAG LOTS AND SOME OTHER FLOODPLAIN ISSUES THAT WAS BROUGHT UP PREVIOUSLY. I WANT TO ADD THAT AGAIN THIS IS PROPOSED AS A SCARE TACTIC. IT'S SOMETHING THAT IS NOT EVEN FEASIBLE. I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE TAKING THIS ON ITS OWN ACCORD. AND VOTING ON THAT NOT BASED ON THE FACT THAT SOMETHING ELSE MIGHT BE PUT IN ITS PLACE THAT'S NOT POSSIBLE. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU, SIR. >> JO FREELAND FOLLOWED BY

LAURIE HOBSON. >> GOOD AFTERNOON, JUDGE, COMMISSIONERS. I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF LOST LAKES RESORTS WHICH IS A NEIGHBORING PROPERTY OWNER AND OWNS THE EASEMENT THAT RUNS THROUGH THIS LAND THAT HAYS COMMONS WANTS TO BUILD HOUSES ON TOP OF I'M GOING TO GIVE YOU A SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT STORY THAN WHAT YOU'VE BEEN HEARING FROM EVERYBODY ELSE.

IF YOU CONSIDER MOVING FORWARD WITH THIS DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, WE HAVEN'T ASKED FOR YOU ALL THT IS, IF YOU LOOK AT WHAT WAS HANDED TO YOU, YOU SEE THE HATCH AREA -- WHICH IS THE IRRIGATION AREA. WHAT YOU NEED TO UNDERSTAND IS THEY WILL HAVE TO COME IN THERE AND CLEARCUT EVERYTHING THAT IS IN THAT ZONE AND BRING IN 12 INCHES OF SOIL FROM OUTSIDE.

THEY WILL GROW BERMUDA GRASS ONCE A YEAR.

THAT IS WHAT THEIR PERMIT WOULD REQUIRE.

IF YOU LOOK HERE ALONG THE CITY OF HAYS PROPERTY THAT THEY HAVE NOT PUSHED THAT IRRIGATION AREA RIGHT TO THE BACKYARDS.

WHAT WE WOULD ASK IS THAT THEY EXTEND THE SAME COURTESY ACROSS TO THE OTHER PROPERTIES -- WHICH WE HAVE GREEN DOTS ON YOUR HANDOUT. THERE WOULD BE AT LEAST 150 FEET OF NO CLEAR CUTTING -- LETS LEAVE THAT AREA UNDISTURBED.

150 FEET. 150 FEET AROUND THAT EASEMENT.

THAT LEAVES HAYS COMMONS WITH SUFFICIENT IRRIGATION AREA THAT THEY CAN MEET THEIR PERMIT AND SERVE THE 348 HOMES.

JUST ASK THAT WE KEEP THIS SCENIC NATURAL VIEW THAT THE NEIGHBORS WOULD HAVE AT LEAST IT WOULD DIMINISH SOME IMPACT ON

[04:15:02]

>> THANK YOU, SIR, I WANT TO RECAP TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTOOD IT RIGHT. I'M TAKING NOTES.

THIS IS COURT OF RECORD. PEOPLE HERE ARE LISTENING AND UNDERSTAND. YOU ARE ASKING FOR 150-FOOT SETBACK FROM THE EASEMENT FOR THE AERIAL SPRAYING ACTIVITY.

>> THAT IS CORRECT, YOUR HONOR. ANY CUTTING.

LET'S LEAVE IT AS NO CLEAR CUTTING IN THAT 150-FOOT ALONG THE EASEMENT OR 150-FOOT ALONG THE NEIGHBORING PROPERTY LINES.

>> I WANT TO MAKE SURE IT IS PROPERLY RECORDED AT THE COUNTY CLERK'S OFFICE. THANK YOU.

>> LAURIE HOBSON FOLLOWED BY JAMES DOBSON.

>> GOOD AFTERNOON, JUDGE, COMMISSIONERS.

HERE IS FEAR OF PUBLIC SPEAKING RIGHT HERE.

SIMILAR TO JOE'S POINT OF VIEW, I SUPPORT RESPONSIBLE GROWTH.

I ALSO BELIEVE GROWTH SHOULD PRESERVE THE NATURAL ASSETS THAT CANNOT EASILY BE REPLACED. THESE MATURE LIVE OAKS PROVIDE BEAUTY AND SHADE AND WILDLIFE HABITAT AND PRIVACY AND STORMWATER MANAGEMENT AND A NATURAL BUFFER BETWEEN NEIGHBORS AND ROADS. ONCE REMOVED, IT WILL TAKE GENERATIONS TO REGAIN WHAT WAS LOST.

THIS WAS NOT THE CHOICE BETWEEN GROWTH AND PRESERVATION.

IT'S A QUESTION OF WHETHER WE CAN GROW WISELY WHILE PROTECTING THE FEATURES THAT MAKE THIS COMMUNITY UNIQUE.

I RESPECTFULLY ASK THAT EVERY EFFORT BE MADE TO PRESERVE THE

NATURAL HABITAT AND TREES. >> THANK YOU.

>> JAMES DAWSON FOLLOWED BY JEFF PARKS.

[INDISTINCT] >> I AM JAMES.

I AM A NEIGHBOR. I AM AN AREA RESIDENT.

EVERYBODY IS TELLING US HOW LONG WE'VE BEEN AROUND WE'VE BEEN IN THE AREA SINCE 1851. AND WE DON'T PLAN TO LEAVE.

WE CARE ABOUT THE WATER. WE CARE ABOUT THE DEVELOPMENT RIGHTS. WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO TALK WITH Y'ALL ABOUT TODAY REALLY -- I UNDERSTAND THAT COUNTY COMMISSIONERS REALLY ONLY HAVE SO MUCH THEY CAN DO WHEN IT COMES TO REGULATING THINGS OUTSIDE OF YOUR CONTROL.

THE APPLICATION IS NOT IN YOUR CONTROL.

THERE ARE THINGS THAT CAN BE IN YOUR CONTROL WHEN SOMEBODY COMES AND WANTS TO DIVIDE AND GO BEYOND WHAT THE COUNTY DEVELOPMENT CODE ALLOWS. THAT IS WHAT MY SON IS ASKING FOR ASKING FOR AN EXCEPTION TO THE DEVELOPMENT CODE.

IN RETURN, THERE NEEDS TO BE SOME GIVE BACK TO THE PUBLIC.

WHAT I'M PROPOSING DOES YOU GUYS CAN'T COMPLETELY STOP THEIR ABILITY TO GO IN AND PUT SOME DENSITY THERE.

WHAT I'M PROPOSING IS 150-FOOT SETBACK FROM ANY PROPERTY LINES FROM OUR EASEMENT AS WELL. I BELIEVE THAT A WINDBREAK WOULD CUT WAY DOWN ON ODOR NUISANCE CLAIMS THAT YOU GUYS ARE GONNA HAVE TO BE DEALING WITH FROM THE PUBLIC.

AND I THINK THAT IT'S A HAPPY MIDDLE GROUND.

I REALLY WANT TO EMPHASIZE MORE THAN ANYTHING WHAT EXACTLY ARE WE DOING HERE ANYWAY? THIS IS A VERY CRITICALLY SENSITIVE PIECE OF PROPERTY. WE ARE ASKING TO GO FROM 0.75 ACRES TO 0.15 ACRES PER YEAR THAT'S A 500% INCREASE IN THE NUMBER OF HOUSES THAT WOULD FIT IN AN ACRE.

MAYBE THERE ARE SOME PLACES IN HAYS COUNTY THAT MAKES SENSE TO DO I DON'T THINK OVER THE ENVIRONMENTAL RECHARGE AQUIFER ZONE IS THE RIGHT PLACE TO DO IT I DON'T THINK IT IS THE RIGHT PLACE TO DO IT I ESPECIALLY DON'T THINK IT IS THE RIGHT PLACE TO DO IT WHEN THERE'S FEATURES IN THE CREEK THAT ACTUALLY DRAINS THIS AREA OUT. THERE IS JUST NO WAY THAT THIS T LAP OF WATER ULTIMATELY WILL NOT MAKE IT INTO THE AQUIFER.

YOU GUYS ARE PROVING HIGHER DENSITY YOU ARE APPROVING MORE GALLONS GOING IN THERE IF YOU CAN DISGUISE THIS AND SAY PART OF THIS WILL NOT BE DEVELOPED AND PART OF THIS WILL BE REALLY DENSELY DEVELOPED. THE FINAL OUTCOME IS THAT IT'S STILL A LOT MORE GALLONS THAN WE ARE ALLOWING CONSIDERING THIS DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT. I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU GUYS TO NOT CONSIDER THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT IF YOU DO COME I WOULD ENCOURAGE SOME SORT OF REASONABLE SETBACKS AND TREE BRS AND THINGS THAT PREVENT ODOR NUISANCE CLAIMS IN THE FUTURE WOULD BE CONSIDERED AS PART OF THIS.

THANK YOU ALL. >> THANK YOU.

THAT IS TWICE. >> JEFF PARKS.

LASTLY, PAGE. >> DID YOU SAY LAST?

>> WHAT I'M GOING TO DO IS BECAUSE PEOPLE ASK, I WILL TAKE A SHORT TEN-MINUTE BREAK AFTER THE PEOPLE HERE SPEAKING THEN WE ARE GOING TO GO INTO THE WRITTEN WORK.

RIGHT AFTER YOU ARE DONE. >> JEFF PARKS.

[04:20:01]

>> LEFT. >> PAGE.

>> YOU MAY BE OUR LAST PUBLIC SPEAKER.

IF YOU GIVE THEM ALL TO HER, SHE WILL PASS THEM WE WILL PASS IT ALONG. THERE YOU GO, THANK YOU.

>> THIS IS GOOD TIMING, BECAUSE MY KNEE HURTS, IN MY STOMACH WILL PROBABLY TALK MORE THAN I DO RIGHT NOW.

I JUST HANDED YOU A REALLY TERRIBLE MAP I WANT TO BORROW

THAT PRETTY ONE. >> WE DON'T NEED NO STINKING

HELICOPTERS. >> NO HELICOPTER I BROUGHT YOUR AERIAL VIEW. I WILL POINT.

SO MY NAME IS PAIGE. I'M A RESIDENT IN THE AREA.

MY PROPERTY DOES BACK UP TO THE PROPERTY IN QUESTION.

I'M ALSO HERE UNOFFICIALLY ON BEHALF OF ALL THE RESIDENTS ON COUNTRY OAKS DRIVE BACK UP TO THIS PROPERTY.

SOMEWHERE OVER HERE. I THINK -- IN ADDITION TO BEING A NEIGHBOR, I HAVE 20 YEARS OF PROFESSIONAL EXPERIENCE IN GREEN STORMWATER INFRASTRUCTURE, RIPARIAN STEWARDSHIP, RIPARIAN RESTORATION, WATER QUALITY, ENVIRONMENTAL FLOWS, I DESIGNED FOR THE CITY OF AUSTIN.

SO FOR THOSE WHO ARE LIMITING THAT THEY DON'T HAVE THE SCIENCE BACKGROUND COME I DO. YOU HAVE HEARD OVER AND OVER AGAIN OF FOLKS TALKING ABOUT WATER QUALITY THERE IS AN ISSUE THAT THIS IS ON THE CREEK. AND BEAR CREEK ALREADY HAS PROBLEMS. THEY HAVE EROSION PROBLEMS AND WATER QUALITY PROBLEMS, RAISING ALL OF THEIR PRISTINE VEGETATION THAT IS ON THIS PART OF THE PROPERTY WHERE THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT PUTTING IT THE SPRINKLERS WILL CAUSE MORE EROSION DOWNSTREAM FOR OUR NEIGHBORS IN BEAR CREEK WHO DON'T SHOW UP HERE BECAUSE THEY ARE IN TRAVIS COUNTY, BUT THEY ARE STILL AFFECTED. ALSO LET'S TALK ABOUT THE AQUIFER AGAIN. YOU HAVE HEARD OF FOLKS TALKING ABOUT THEIR WELLS THAT ARE ALREADY BACKED UP TO THE AREA IN QUESTION AND DIRECTLY INTO THE EDWARDS AQUIFER.

I WISH THAT YOU COULD HAVE A CHANCE TO GO VISIT THIS PROPERTY IN PERSON. I HAVE.

THERE ARE JUST HOLES IN THE GROUND EVERYWHERE.

YOU CANNOT POSSIBLY CAP OR FILL ALL OTHER FEATURES THAT ARE ON THIS PROPERTY. I HAVE READ THE REPORTS ABOUT THE ONES THAT ARE MAKING IT INTO REPORTS AS SENSITIVE FEATURES.

SOME OF THEM ARE 50 FEET LONG AND 20 FEET WIDE.

THERE'S MULTIPLE ONES ON THIS PROPERTY.

I HAVE CIRCLED THE ONES ON THIS MAP FOR YOU THAT ARE WHERE THE SPRAY FIELD IS SUPPOSED TO BE. ANOTHER THING ABOUT THIS LAND IS IT IS ABSOLUTELY PRISTINE. I HAVE WALKED IT WITH -- EXCUSE ME. I AM SO HUNGRY.

I HAVE WALKED IT WITH NATIVE PLANT PROFESSIONALS.

AND THEY HAVE BEEN FLAWED AT HOW FEW INVASIVE SPECIES AROUND THIS PROPERTY. IF THEY SCRAPE THIS AND THROW BERMUDA GRASS DOWN WITH FILL DIRT FOR THIS FIELD COME EVERYTHING WILL BE DESTROYED. IN ADDITION TO THAT, THERE ARE WATER DYE TESTS THAT HAVE BEEN DONE ON FEATURES ALL OVER THIS REGION. WATER SHOWS UP THREE DAYS LATER THAT FALLS ON THE GROUND HERE AND SHOWS UP THREE DAYS LATER IN BARTON SPRINGS POOL. I'M PRETTY SURE THE CITY OF AUSTIN DOES NOT WANT A SPRING ON A SPRAY FIELD THAT GOES THROUGH BARTON SPRINGS POOL OF. I'M NOT ANTI-DEVELOPMENT.

I'M A CARD CARRYING MEMBER OF THE CENTER FOR NEW URBANISM.

I PROMISE YOU I'M NOT HERE TO SAY I HATE DEVELOPMENT.

THESE GUYS NEED TO DIAL IT IN AND STAY ON THEIR FOOTPRINT.

>> THANK YOU. WE ARE GOING TO TAKE A TEN MINUTE RECESS COME AND THEN WE ARE GOING SPEAKER I THANK THE COMMUNITY EVERY TIME FOR PARTICIPATING AND TAKING TIME. AND I KNOW YOU'VE GOT TO KNOW THIS. AND I AM BRAGGING ABOUT MYSELF, AND THAT'S OKAY. I CAN DO THIS.

I RUN A PRETTY EFFICIENT COURT. I KNOW I DO.

I WATCH CITY COUNCILS THAT GO ON TILL 3:00 OR 4:00 IN THE MORNING. BUT EVEN STILL NO MATTER HOW HARD I PUSH -- I. REALLY DO ASK THE COMMISSIONERS FOR A LITTLE UNDERSTANDING. BECAUSE I'M TRYING TO KEEP THE CONVERSATION MOVING BUT YET NOT SHUT ANYONE DOWN.

THERE IS A THREADING OF A NEEDLE THAT I'VE GOT TO DO THERE.

NO MATTER WHAT I'M STILL SITTING HERE AT 2:00 GOING THROUGH AGENDA ITEMS. SO NO THIS.

IF YOU GET A TICKET WHILE BEING HERE, I'M SERIOUS THESE ARE TWO

[04:25:01]

FIRST AND FOREMOST, FOR EVERMORE, WHEN YOU COME TO DO COUNTY BUSINESS, TRY IF POSSIBLE TO PARK THE NOSE OF YOUR CAR TO FACE THE HISTORIC COURTHOUSE. BECAUSE WE ARE AN EMBASSY IN THE CITY. WE ARE STAND ALONE GOVERNMENTAL BODY. THE CITY DOES NOT PATROL.

THIS IS COUNTY. THIS IS TRULY DEPUTIES WRITING TICKETS AND MANAGING THE FACILITIES HERE AT THIS PROPERTY. IT IS SO MUCH EASIER AND FASTER FOR US TO ASK A DEPUTY TO SUPPORT DISCARDING A TICKET THAT WAS WRITTEN FOR A DIFFERENT PURPOSE.

YOU WERE HERE TO DO THE GOVERNMENT'S WORK, THE WORK OF THE PEOPLE HERE REPRESENTING OFFICIAL WORK.

YOU DIDN'T JUST CAMP OUT AND WALK AWAY SOMEWHERE.

BUT I'M SAYING IS, IF YOU GET A TICKET ON OUR SQUARE, I'M GOING TO DO MY BEST TO GET IT CANCELED.

BECAUSE THIS TAKES A LONG TIME. >> PARK ON OUR SIDE OF THE

SQUARE IS WHAT HE'S SAYING. >> WHEN POSSIBLE.

NOW WHAT I HAVE ASKED THE COUNTY CLERK'S OFFICE TO DO IN THE SPIRIT OF EFFICIENCY BUT YET KEEPING PEOPLE'S NAMES ALIVE AND WELL IN THEIR EFFORTS IS THEY ARE GOING TO READ THE MOST -- IT IS RANDOM. WE DIDN'T PICK SOME ONE.

IT IS ALL IN THEIR HANDS. TO PICK THE MOST ROBUST LETTER AND THE WRITTEN THAT HAS THE MOST ENCAPSULATION OF IDEAS TO CONTRIBUTE TO THE COURT OF RECORD.

AND THEN READ EVERY ONE'S NAME THAT SIGNED IN.

[K.13. Discussion and possible action to authorize the execution of a Development Agreement for the Hays Commons subdivision between Hays County and Hays Commons Land Investment, LP. SMITH/BERLAD (Part 1 of 2)]

ROXANNE, ARE YOU READY? >> YES, JUST TO PREFACE BEFORE THE NOTICES READ SENT IN FROM CAROL PENNINGTON, WE DID RECEIVE A NOTICE OF 73 EMAIL PUBLIC COMMENTS FOR K-13.

A FEW ROUGHLY ABOUT FIVE OF THOSE SUBMIT THE REQUIRED INFORMATION. WE WILL STILL GO AHEAD AND READ THEIR NAMES OFF ON THE LIST OF COMMENTS RECEIVED JUST FOR

PUBLIC RECORD. >> THAT WOULD TECHNICALLY BE AROUND FOUR HOURS. OKAY? JUST SO YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT AND WHY.

I VALUE OH, SO MUCH I REALLY DO I VALUE O SO MUCH EVERYONE THAT TOOK THE TIME TO CONTRIBUTE TO TODAY'S AGENDA ITEM.

AT THE SAME TIME, I WILL NOT BURN 4 OF YOUR HOURS TO HEAR STRONGLY SIMILAR STATEMENTS. OKAY, ROXANNE, ALL YOURS.

>> SHEIS GOING TO READ THE LIST OF NAMES THAT WE HAVE DOCUMENTED THAT HAVE EMAILED PUBLIC COMMENTS IN.

>> FOR PUTTING IN COMMENTS LIKE K-13, I HAVE TANYA CRENSHAW --

[04:30:53]

WHAT HAS CHANGED SINCE THEN? MORE PEOPLE AND MORE STRAWS INTO THE AQUIFER WHILE MILESTONE MAY NOT BE GETTING THEIR WATER FROM THE EDWARDS, I AM. THIS 120-ACRE PLUS CLUSTER OF HOMES IS OVER THE VERY LAND THAT RECHARGES THE AQUIFER WHERE I GY DRINKING WATER. IF THE 2017 COMMISSIONER SUPPORT FELT IT NECESSARY FOR THE 34TH ACRE LOT SIZES OVER THE RECHARGE ZONE COMMISSIONED NOT VARY FROM THAT NOW YOU CANNOT USE THE ENTIRE PROPERTY TO CALCULATE THE LOT SIZE BECAUSE YOU CANNOT BUILD HOUSES ON 200 ACRES. YOU HAVE TO DESIGNATE AN OPEN SPACE. WHAT THEY ARE CALLING OPEN SPACE WILL HAVE 56--ACRE T LAP, THREE WELLS THAT HAVE A DESIGNATED PERIMETER AROUND WHERE THE PUBLIC WILL NOT HAVE ACCESS TO A CREEK, A TRIBUTARY CREEK AND A SENSITIVE ENVIRONMENTAL FEATURE THAT THE PUBLIC SHOULD NOT BE HANGING AROUND.

THESE FEATURES SHOULD NOT BE CONSIDERED IN CALCULATING THE LOT SIZE AND NOT BE CONSIDERED OPEN SPACE.

WHO WANTS TO TAKE A WALK IN A POOL FIELD ♪ OPEN SPACE SHOULD BE LEFT IN ITS OPEN STATE, THAT'S IMPOSSIBLE IF YOU ARE GOING TO INSTALL IRRIGATION LINES.

THEY WILL CUT ALL THE TREES DOWN TO INSTALL IT AND WILL NOT BE PRESERVED FOREVER AS STATED IN THE PRESENTATION? THIS IS WHAT MILESTONE DOES PRAYER THEY TAKE A LOOK AT IT BEFORE AND AFTER PICTURES OF SKY RIDGE AND HILLS OF BEAR CREEK.

THEY STRIP THE LAND OF ALL VEGETATION INCLUDING HERITAGE OAK TREES. THEY DO NOT HAVE A GOOD REPUTATION WHEN IT COMES TO PRESERVING NATURE AND PROTECTING THE ENVIRONMENT. WHAT MAKES YOU THINK THEY WILL PROTECT THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY. DO NOT BELIEVE THEM JUST BECAUSE THEY PUT A PRETTY PICTURE OF OAK TREES IN THEIR PRESENTATION.

THIS OTHER PLAN THEY SHOW WHERE THERE ARE HOUSES ON LARGE LOTS OF PRIVATE WELLS AND OSSF IS NOTHING BUT A THREAT AND A SCARE TACTIC. THEY HAVE USED THIS EXACT THREAT WITH THE CITY OF HAYS AND THE CITY OF AUSTIN.

IT IS NOTHING BUT A THREAT AND THEY ARE HOPING YOU BUY IT.

I HOPE YOU ARE SMART ENOUGH TO NOT TAKE THE BAIT.

>> BEAUTIFUL. [INDISTINCT]

>> I WILL NOW ASK COMMISSIONER SMITH AS A SPONSOR OF THIS ITEM FOR THE VARIATION OF OUR POLICIES, IF YOU HAVE ANY PARTING COMMENTS BEFORE WE MOVE ON.

>> NO I WOULD JUST SAY AS FAR AS BACKGROUND NUMBER ONE, I APPRECIATE YOU ALL BEING HERE TODAY NUMBER TWO, IF YOU GO BACK AND LOOK AT OUR AGENDAS OVER THE LAST THREE MONTHS OR FOUR MONTHS I WANT TO SAY IT WAS IN MARCH A. A VARIANCE FOR THIS DEVELOPMENT APPEARED ON OUR AGENDA. IT WAS NOT TRADITIONALLY IN OUR COURT ANYTHING RELATED TO DEVELOPMENT IS BROUGHT FORTH BY THE COUNTY COMMISSIONER. A VARIANCE FOR THIS -- NOT A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT BUT A COMPLETE VARIANCE FOR THIS PROPERTY WAS BROUGHT FORTH BY THE JUDGE.

IT WAS PLACED ON OUR AGENDA THREE TIMES.

THE EXACT SAME VARIANCE THAT WAS REQUESTED IN THE DEVELOPMENT

[04:35:02]

IT WAS AT THAT TIME I SAID I WILL SIT DOWN WITH THE DEVELOPER AND TRY TO WORK OUT AT LEAST SOMETHING THAT IS FOR WITH A GENERAL GOOD OF THE PUBLIC. THAT IS WHERE THIS DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT CAME FROM. IT WAS MY ATTEMPT TO ADDRESS THE OTHER PENDING AGENDA ITEM. AT THE END OF THE DAY THE PUBLIC HAS SPOKEN AND DOESN'T WANT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS.

>> I WILL MAKE SURE IT COMES BACK MORE THAN 30 DAYS FROM NOW SO IF THERE ADDITIONAL INPUT NEEDED OR SUGGESTIONS THAT WE HAVE HAD TIME TO CONSIDER THAT. WHAT I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU WHENEVER I DID THE INITIAL 30 DAY EX-TEMPERATURES PERIOD FOR THE CONSIDERATION OF THIS I ASKED IN COURT THAT DAY AND I MADE IT VERY PUBLIC, FORGIVE ME, THAT I WANTED PEOPLE TO COME SEE ME COME TALK TO ME INDIVIDUALLY ABOUT IT.

IF YOU HAVE SUGGESTIONS AS TO, AND I WILL CORRECT THE MAYOR.

I NEVER SAID THIS WOULD PASS. I SAID A DEVELOMENT UNDER THE STATE GUIDELINES WON'T PROBABLY HAPPEN.

WHETHER IT'S THIS DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT OR NOT SOMETHING WILL GO THERE. I HAVE FULL CONFIDENCE.

WE DON'T HAVE THE TOOLS TO STOP IT HERE.

IN HAYS COUNTY AND COUNTIES THROUGHOUT THE STATE, WE HAVE FIVE TOOLS TO LIMIT AND REGULATE DEVELOPMENT.

NUMBER ONE THEIR OSSF, THEIR ON SITE SEWAGE FACILITY AND HAPPINESS COUNTY HAS THE MOST STRINGENT ACTUALLY THE REPORT THAT WAS MENTIONED EARLIER, OVER TOOLS COUNTIES HAVE I WOULD ENCOURAGE BECAUSE WHEN THE EDWARDS AQUIFER COMPLETED THAT STUDY IN 2023 IT STATED HAYS COUNTY THAT IS MOST STRINGENT WE HAVE GONE ABOUT MAKING CLEAR FROM A DEVELOPMENT STANDPOINT WHERE WE LACK TOOLS WE TRY TO CREATE OTHERS WITH THE AUTHORITY WE HAVE AND ON SITE SEWAGE FACILITY IS A GREAT EXAMPLE OF THAT WE CAN'T UNDER STATE LAW MINIMUM LOT SIZES LIKE A CITY DOES BUT WE CAN TYRE MAXIMUM GALLONS PER ACRE YOU CAN PUT ON WITH YOUR SEPTIC SYSTEM. THAT'S WHERE WE GET RULES WHERE WE STAY YOU CAN'T HAVE MORE OR LESS THAN A CERTAIN LOT SIZE.

WE USE THE TOOLS WE HAVE IN A DIFFERENT WAY AND THAT'S HOW WE USE ENFORCEMENT. OTHER THAN THAT IF YOU CONNECT TO A COUNTY ROADWAY, IF YOUR WATER AVAILABILITY FLOOD PLAIN STUDY IF IT'S A COMMERCIAL BUILDING OR A COMMERCIAL ENTITY THEN WE HAVE FIRE CODE AND WHAT AM I MISSING MICHAEL? THAT'S FOUR. DID I MISS ONE? OR WAS THAT FIVE? THAT'S FIVE.

THOSE ARE THE FIVE THINGS THAT WE HAVE.

AND SO, WE TRIED TO USE THOSE LIMITED TOOLS AS BEST WE CAN TO ADDRESS THESE THINGS AND WHEN IT WAS MENTIONED EARLIER ABOUT THE DEATH STAR BILL AND IF YOU'RE NOT FAMILIAR WITH THAT IT WAS BILL THAT WAS AUTHORED IN THE LEGISLATURE TO STRIP ANY AND ALL REGULATORY AUTHORITY FROM THE COUNTY.

THERE'S ONE PERSON ON THIS DAIS WHO WENT AND TESTIFIED AGAINST IT. WHETHER THE ETG EXIT THE ETG LEGISLATION PASSED IN TWVTH THEY TOOK AWAY THE CITY'S ABILITY AT ENFORCEMENT. THERE'S ONE PERSON ON THE DAIS WHO WENT MULTIPLE TIMES TESTIFIED AGAINST THAT BILL.

IT WAS ME. WE NEED MORE STRUCTURE AND WE NEED MORE ABILITY TO IMPACT THESE THINGS BUT UNTIL THAT HAPPENS WE HAVE TO USE THE BELLS TOOLS THAT WE HAVE.

A DA IS A TOOL WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO USE IN THE PAST TO GET THOSE THINGS WE WERE NOT ABLE TO GET OTHERWISE AND AT TIMES WE WERE ABLE TO USE THOSE TO INCENTIVIZE STAYING IN OUR REGULATORY STRUCTURE SO THEY DON'T GO ALL THE WAY TO THE STATE AND CAN DO WHATEVER THEY WANT AND I WOULD JUST SAY IN THIS CASE THAT IS WHAT FUNCTIONALLY WE WANTED TO DO AS A COUNTY.

OTHERWISE, WE KNOW WHAT THAT OVERALL DEVELOPMENT LOOKS LIKE AND I AM ASSURED THAT I WOULD BE SHOCKED IF THAT ENTIRE PROPERTY IS NOT GOING TO BE DEVELOPED NOW.

IF THAT IS THE WILL OF THE COMMUNITY THEN THEY'RE GOING TO GET IT WHETHER WE HAVE, BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO CONTROL THAT. AND I THINK THAT'S THE FRUSTRATION THAT I HAVE MORE THAN ANYTHING IS THE FACT THAT WE WANT BUSINESSES HERE AND WE WANT AFFORDABLE HOUSING HERE.

[04:40:07]

AFFORDABILITY RATES OUR CURTIN RESIDENTS ARE HAVING A HARD TIME WITH AFFORD ABILITY SO END OF THE DAY I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THINKING THAT WE ARE TIED BY STATE LAW AND I BELIEVE OUR PREVIOUS DISCUSSION ON DATA CENTERS IS A GOOD EXAMPLE.

WE HAVE PURKSD I HAVE TESTIFIED OVER 30 TIMES IN THE STATE HOUSE, ASKING FOR INCREASED IMPERVIOUS COVER AUTHORITY ON BEHALF OF OUR GROUND WATER DISTRICTS IMPROVED AUTHORITY FOR GROUND WATER DISTRICTS AND EVERY TIME I'LL TELL YOU RIGHT NOW SENATOR BETANCOURTSES SUBCOMMITTEE I GET SMACKED AROUND LYING A RAG DOLL. END OF THE DAY WE NEED MORE AUTHORITY. WE CAN'T DO EVERYTHING THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO DO BUT I HAVE TO TELL YOU, I HOPE AND I PRAY THAT Y'ALL DURING THIS LEGISLATIVE SESSION, WHENEVER THESE BILLS COME UP THAT WOULD GIVE AUTHORITY TO COUNTIES TO ADDRESS SOME OF THE CONCERNS THAT YOU HAVE I HOPE AND PRAY THAT Y'ALL TAKE THAT ONE DAY LIKE YOU TOOK TODAY TO TALK TO US AND GO TALK TO THEM. ASK THEM FOR THAT.

IT WOULD BE A BENEFIT TO EVERYONE IN THIS ROOM.

AND WITH THAT, I'LL SAY, I'LL GO AHEAD AND TO TABLE IT AND BRING IT BACK IN 30 DAYS AND I WILL SAY RERECEIVED A LETTER LAST NIGHT FROM CITY OF AUSTIN ASKING US TO TABLE IT FOR 30 DAYS AND ALSO RECEIVED CORRESPONDENCE THAT WAS READ FROM AT LEAST TWO OF THE WITNESSES FROM SABRE SPRINGS SO WE ARE GOING TO PULL IT FOR AT LEAST 30 DAYS BUT IT WILL BE VERY PUBLIC WHEN IT GOES ON THE AGENDA AND WE WILL MAKE SURE TO REACH OUT ON SOCIAL MEDIA AND ANY PLACE ELSE TO INSURE YOU ALL KNOW IT'S HOOPG

IF AND WHEN IT DOES. >> WELL, I HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY -- DO YOU HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY?

>> TO BE COMPLETELY HONEST I THINK D.A. IS INCREDIBLY FLAWED.

I'M NOT SAYING YOU CREATED IT OR OUR STAFF DIDN'T CREATE IT.

IT WAS TERRIBLY FLAWED AND UNLESS THEY'RE WILLING TO SCRAP IT COMPLETELY AND COME UP WITH A COMPLETE DIFFERENT, A TOTALLY DIFFERENT D.A., I SEE BENEFIT IN CALLING FOR THE VOTE.

>> THANK YOU AND SO I'M GOING TO CHALLENGE COMMISSIONER SMITH'S IDEA THAT WE HAVE NO POWER THAT YOU SHOULD GO TO THE CAPITAL INSTEAD, JOIN HIM AS THE LONE RESIDENT THAT GOES TO THE CAPITAL, JOIN HIM, PLEASE, AND PLEAD FOR POWER FOR THIS COURT.

LET'S TEST IT! ROXANNE CALL THE VOTE TO CANCEL

THIS DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT. >> I MOVE TO TABLE.

>> COMMISSIONER, INGLESTEIN. >> THERE'S A MOTION ON THE

FLOOR. >> DO YOU HAVE A SECOND? NO SECOND? PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

TRY AGAIN AT THE CAPITAL. THESE PEOPLE ARE WATCHING AND

THEY CARE -- >> I HOPE THEY GO BACK AND WATCH EXACTLY. [APPLAUSE]

>> I SINCERELY HOPE YOU GO BACK AND WATCH THE LEAD OF COURTS WHERE HE PUT THIS ON HERE WITH NOT ONE SINGLE CAVEAT.

[G. CONSENT ITEMS]

>> ROXANNE PLEASE OPEN ALL CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS. I MOVE WE OPEN CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS. MOTION AND SECOND? BELIEVE TWO FOR G.

OKAY. YES AND THANK YOU FOR THAT NOTE.

FORGET ABOUT THAT NOTE. HAYS COUNTY RESIDENTS, ONE, THANK YOU. SO, WE HAVE THOSE THAT WERE PULLED WERE G-21 SO PLEASE DON'T OPEN G-21,OPEN THE REST AND YOU HAVE TWO PUBLIC COMMENTS. OKAY, PERFECT.

WE ARE NOT OPENING 221. PLEASE CALL THE ROLL FOR PROVING

SLATE 21. >> WE HAVE G-27, PUBLIC COMMENT FROM [NAME] HE'S NO HERE. ALL RIGHT.

NO MORE PUBLIC COMMENTS FOR CONSENT ITEMS, CALLING THE ROLL.

TEXTED ME ABOUT AN AGENDA ITEM. PLEASE OPEN HIS ITEMS BECAUSE DO

[04:45:01]

>> JUDGE, WE ALSO HAVE FOLKS MERE FOR PAGE 12.

>> PERFECT. I WILL DO THEM ALL OF THEM IN

[Items K.5., K.20. & K.26.]

ARE THOSE TOMORROW'S THE SHERIFFS OFFICE? JUST THAT BLOCK OF K-5, 20, 26 AND FOLLOWED IMMEDIATELY BY K-7.

THANK YOU. >> K-5 DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION AUTHORED THE SHERIFFS OFFICE TO [READING]

>> GO AGAIN, SORRY. >> [READING]

[READING] >> SO MOVED.

>> SECOND. >> NOW WE HAVE ALL THREE AND THE CHIEF DEPUTY IS HERE FROM THE SHERIFFS OFFICE.

IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS OR CONCERNS, ANYONE? THANK YOU MR. COMPTON. PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

[K.7. Discussion and possible action authorizing the purchase often expired ballistics helmets and related equipment from Hays County Emergency Services District No. 6, in the amount of $10.00 total, for the benefit of the Hays County Constable, Precinct 4, and authorize the execution of a Bill of Sale related therewith. HAMMER/GRAHAM]

ITEM K-7. >> K-7.

[READING] >> SO MOVED.

>> SECOND. >> QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS.

>> CONSTABLE IS STANDING BY FOR YOUR QUESTIONS.

>> I WANTED TO BRING THIS TO COURT AND OBVIOUSLY, CONSTABLE GRAHAM I HAD A COUPLE PEOPLE REACH OUT AND SAY WHY ARE WE TRYING TO ACQUIRE EXPIRED BALLISTICS HELMETS AND CONSTABLE

GRAHAM HAD A GOOD. >> EXPLANATION.

>> EXPLANATION JUSTIFICATION ABOUT THAT.

>> IF YOU DON'T MIND NAME AND TITLE.

>> GOOD AFTERNOON JUDGE, COMMISSIONERS, DAVE GRAHAM CONSTABLE PRESINGT 4. THANK YOU FOR OUPG ME TO SPEAK.

I'M REQUESTING COMMISSIONERS COURT -- READING].

>> THESE HELMETS WERE ACQUIRED FOR FIREFIGHTER TRAINING SERVICES AND SEEN HIM IT USE AND WHILE THE MANUFACTURER SIGNED A FIVE-YEAR SERVICE FOR LIFE FOR SERVICE AND PLY BUILT SERVICES THE MEL MELTS HAVE USE PRIMARILY IN CONTROLLED TRAINING ENVIRONMENT AND NOT EXPERIENCED THE WEAR DAMAGE FOR OPERATIONAL EXPOSURE THAT WOULD TYPICALLY DEGRADE THEIR CAPABILITIES.

SPEAKING OF PROFESSIONAL COMMISSIONER I WAS A UNIT COMMANDER WHERE I OVERALL THE FULL-TIME S.W.A.T. TEAM AND BOMB SQUAD. I COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND BALLISTIC EQUIPMENT. ALL EQUIPMENT HAS A SHELF LIFE CAPACITY. HOWEVER THESE HELMETS HAVE SEEN HIM IT USE. THEY HAVEN'T BEEN EXPOSED TO MOISTURE HEAT UV SO THEIR TIP WAL HARD LIFE ROW TIERMT WOULD BE MORE LIKE 5-10 YEARS. AT PRESENT OUR OFFICE DSZ NOT HAVE BALLISTIC HELMETS FOR DEPUTIES CREATING GAP DURING THREAT SITUATIONS AND OTHER LAW ENFORCEMENT SITUATIONS WHERE HEAD PREVENTION WOULD BE CRITICAL.

THE PROPOSED TRANSFER WOULD PROVIDE AT NO DISH NATURAL COST TO THE TAXPAYERS. [READING]

[04:50:16]

>> YOU WERE PERFECT WHY YOUR FRAMING OF THIS MAGNIFICENT REQUEST THROUGH THE FISCAL LENS THROUGH THE PUBLIC SAFETY LENS AND EVERYTHING ELSE, SO PERFECTLY STATED.

ANYTHING ELSE ANYONE ALSO BEFORE I CAL THE ROLL.

>> I WANT TO THANK YOU CONSTABLE FOR PROVIDING THAT INFORMATION.

APPRECIATE IT. >> THANK YOU.

>> MAGNIFICENTLY DONE. PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

NUMBER YOU GOT TO REMEMBER THERE ARE A BUNCH OF LETTERS SO I NEVER WANT TO ASSUME, HAVE DONE IT BEFORE WHERE I READ SOME ONE'S LIPS. LET'S OPEN K-17 TELL ME WHAT YOU

[K.18. Discussion and possible action to execute the Vertosoft Quote for Mosaic Consulting Group related to consulting services for the configuration of the Countywide Timekeeping System, UKG, totaling $42,600.00 and amend the budget accordingly. INGALSBENILLARREAL-ALONZO]

>> [READING] >> GOOD AFTERNOON.

JUDGE AND COMMISSIONERS. WE ARE REQUESTING THAT WE CONSULT WITH THE MOSAIC CONSULTING GROUP TO HELP US DO THE FINAL IMPLEMENTATION FOR THE SHERIFFS OFFICE, UKG TIME KEEPING SOFTWARE. WE ALSO NEED TO MAKE SOME CHANGES IN THE SOFTWARE FOR THE REQUIREMENT FOR THE BIG BEAUTIFUL BILL, PREMIUM OVERTIME REPORTING LAST YEAR IT WAS JUST INFORMATIONAL RETURN THIS YEAR WE DO HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYTHING IS FLOWING FROM OUR TIME SHEETS AND W-2'S SO WE HAVE CONSULTED WITH OTHER COUNTIES AND WE TALKED TO OUR IT DIRECTOR AND IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT CAN BE HANDLED IN HOUSE THAT'S WHY WE ARE REQUESTING IN CONSULT AND BE BROUGHT ON FOR CONFIGURATION.

>> ALL RIGHT. ANY QUESTIONS COMMISSIONERS? WE HAVE BEEN, JEFF, WE HAVE BEEN TRYING TO GET THIS SYSTEMIZED FOR MANY YEARS. PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

[K.12. Discussion and possible action to authorize the execution of a Development Agreement for the Driftwood Country Store between Hays County and FM 150 Driftwood Investments, LLC. SMITH/BERLAD]

>> DISCUSSION AND POSITION ACTION AUTHOR THE EXECUTION AGREEMENT. [READING] WE HAVE UP WITH EMAIL

PUBLIC COMMENT. >> OKAY.

MOTION. >> SECOND.

>> NOW READ THAT COMMENT. [READING] [READING] [READING]

[READING]. >> OH, COMMISSIONER SMITH.

>> YES, IF Y'ALL WILL REMEMBER THIS WAS A VARIANCE WE DISCUSSED MAYBE TWO MONTHS AGO, IN FEBRUARY, SORRY, IN FEBRUARY WHERE WE ASKED THEM AGAIN INSTEAD OF VARIANCE TO SIT DOWN AND TALK TO US ABOUT A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.

THIS D.A. IS WIDELY SUPPORTED. WE HAVE LOT LETTERS OF SUPPORT FROM THE DRIFTWOOD CONSERVATION SOCIETY, A NUMBER OF OTHER GROUPS OUT IN THAT AREA AND ONE THING THAT I WANT TO MAKE VERY CLEAR THAT AGAIN, THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT IS IN THE BACK OF THE, IN THE BACKUP FOR THE AGENDA.

[04:55:01]

I WILL SAY THAT THE ONE ADJUSTMENT IS THERE IS ACTUALLY TWO VARIANCES INCLUDED IN THERE AND WE DISCUSSED BOTH OF THEM IN COURT THE PREVIOUS TIME THAT WE DISCUSSED THEM BUT THE SET BACK VARIANCE, IF YOU'LL NOTICE THERE'S AN EXHIBIT ATTACHED TO THE D.A. WHERE THE SET BACK VARIANCE DOES NOT COVER THE PROPERTY IN ITS ENTIRETY, ONLY A SMALL PORTION, WHERE THERE'S ACTUALLY SOME EXISTING BUILDING AND I HAVE A QUESTION AS TO WHETHER OR NOT THE COUNTY'S RIGHT OF WAY IS ACCURATE THERE.

I THINK THEY DON'T PROBABLY NEED THE VARIANCE BUT IT COULD MEAN TWO FOOT AND ONE SECTION OF THE ROADWAY THERE.

I HAVE TO GIVE GREAT KUDOS TO CHASE AND OUR OFFICE OF AUSPICES OF GENERAL COUNSEL, OUR CIVIL DIVISION FOR WORKING THROUGH THIS, WITH THE APPLICANT, AND I FULLY SUPPORT IT AS DOES EVERY SINGLE PERSON I'VE MET WITH ON IT.

>> OKAY. AND COMMISSIONER YOU WANT TO

TALK ABOUT THE SET BACK? >> WHAT'S THE OTHER VARIANCE? WASN'T THERE A LARGE AMOUNT OF WATER?

>> IT'S A WASTE WATER VARIANCE. THAT WAS THE LARGEST VEINS AND THAT WAS THE ONE WE DISCUSSED HERE IN COURT.

THE CONCERN IS AT THE GALLONS PER DAY RATE THAT THEY WERE LOOKING AT, IT MADE IT VERY FEESABLE FOR THEM TO JUST GO GET A TEE LAP AND WE DIDN'T WANT THEM TO GET A TEE LAP IF WE COULD HAVE SOME PURVIEW OVER WHAT ELSE WOULD BE IN THERE.

THE D.A. ITSELF, I HOPE THAT Y'ALL HAVE TAKEN THE TIME TO READ IT. IT WAS OUR STANDARD D.A. AND THEN WE CONTINUED TO ADD TO IT. I KNOW THAT COMMISSIONER HAMMER HAS MET WITH THE DRIFTWOOD CONSERVATION SOCIETY AS WELL.

AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT HER FEEDBACK MIGHT BE BUT I KNOW THAT THEY WERE VERY, VERY RESPONSIVE WHENEVER WE MET WITH THEM HAND ACTUALLY I MET WITH THEM ON TWO SEPARATE ONLY OCCASION AFTER THAT. THE QUESTIONS THAT THEY HAD WERE RELATIVE TO LIGHTING THE AVAILABILITY OR POSSIBILITY FOR RAINWATER COLLECTION WHICH IS NOT POSSIBLE BECAUSE OF THE WAY THAT IT'S CONSTRUCTED AS A HISTORIC STRUCTURE, MAKES IT VERY, VERY DIFFICULT. BUT WE WERE ABLE TO GET A COMMITMENT THAT IT WILL BE, YOU KNOW, THEY WANTED MORE OR LESS AT LEAST A PORTION OF THE FACILITY TO BE BACK TO ITS ORIGINAL USE AS A GENERAL STORE AND A LOCATION FOR THEM TO REALLY PROMOTE DOWNTOWN AND HIS TOERKT DRIFTWOOD AND THE HISTORIC VALUE OF IT AND I KNOW THE DEVELOPER IS COMMITTED TO DO THAT SO OVERALL IT GETS A WIN FOR US WHERE WE CAN HAVE SOME CONTROL. OTHERWISE IF IT'S DENIED THEY WILL JUST GO THROUGH THE STATE PROCESS.

>> WHAT DID THAT VARIANCE LOOK LIKE? I MENTIONED LAST TIMED THAT I HAD CONCERNS.

IT WAS A LARGE -- >> FOUR TIMES, THREE, FOUR

TIMES. >> CAN YOU JUST RECAP YOUR DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT THAT YOU HELPED PUT TOGETHER OR THAT'S IN

YOUR BACKUP? >> IT'S IN THE BACKUP.

AND I HAVE A HARD COPY HERE. WHAT IS THE OVERALL MICHAEL IF YOU REMEMBER OR CHASE FROM THE NOTION?

AND I'LL PULL UP A HARD COPY. >> SURE, HIGH BRING UP A HARD COPY AS WELL. SO, THE MAJOR VARIANCE WOULD HAVE BEEN ABOUT AND CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG AROUND 10-X.

THE CURTIN LIKE GALLONS PER ACRE FOR THAT GIVEN ACREAGE, AND THERE WAS ALSO A SETBACK SHORTLY FROM THE ROAD THAT WOULD BE THERE. WE IPS TUTD FAIRLY SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF EXTRA PRESENTATIONS THAT WE DON'T NORMALLY HAVE.

THERE ARE PRETTY STRINGENT AUTOMATIC DEFAULT PROVISIONS THAT IF THEY START HITTING TOO HIGH AFTER USAGE OWE THAT EXTRA NUMBER IT WOULD POTENTIALLY GO TO AUTOMATIC DEFAULT OR THERE WOULD BE SOME DISCRETIONARY DEFAULT AS WELL THEY WOULD HAVE TO GIVE US MORE DATA ON A ROUTINE BASIS WHAT THOSE LOGS ARE, THERE ARE PRIRMT FOR FAILURE THAT AGAIN CAN LEAD TO DEFAULT AND BASICALLY UNDOING OF THE VARIANCE SO LONG AS THEY ACT IN GOOD FAITH AND RESPONSIBLE TO DEVELOPMENT THE D.A. WHILE TO STAND IN PLAY BUS IF THEY GO AFOUL WHAT THOSE POSITIONS ARE IT WOULD BE SUBJECT TO THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT ITSELF.

>> I WOULD ALSO ADD OPEN TOP OF THAT THE ADDITIONAL THINGS WE

[05:00:01]

WE REQUIRE INSTALLATION AN LOCKED GATES AND SOME OTHER THINGS AROUND THE FACILITIES THAT ARE THERE.

IF YOU'LL RECALL WHEN THIS WAS FIRST BROUGHT FORWARD THE ORIGINAL, THE PROPERTY IN ITS ORIGINAL CONFIGURATION IS ALSO LOCATION OF THE DRIFTWOOD POST OFFICE AND THE UNITED STATES POSTAL SERVICE HAS CHOSEN TO TELL US THEY DON'T TO HAVE FOLLOW OUR RULES WHETHER I BELIEVE THAT OR NOT.

I WANT TO SAY THAT I HAVE KNOWN OR DEALT WITH AT LEAST 7 BUT I BELIEVE THERE'S BEEN 9 DIFFERENT PROJECT BHGS THAT PROJECT FOR THE POSTAL SERVICE ANTIAND AT THIS POINT, TWO OF THEM HAVE SAID THEY TWO COMPLY THAT I'VE MET WITH AND ALL THE REST OF RITT NOT GOING TO SO THAT TOOK AWAY A LOT OF THE FLEXIBILITY THAT WOULD BE UNDER OUR STANDARD RULES BECAUSE THEY'VE REQUIRED A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF ADDITIONAL PARKING COMPARED TO WHAT'S

THERE. >> COMMISSIONER LET ME TRY TO ASK YOUR QUESTION IN ANOTHER WAY.

WILL YOU PLEASE FOR THE VIEWING PUBLIC JUST STATE THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, PROS THAT WE ARE GETTING FOR GIVING UP 10-X WATER PER DAY? CAN YOU JUST STATE THEM OUT LOUD FOR THE VIEWING PUBLIC THAT DOESN'T HAVE BACKUP?

>> I WANT THE NUMBERS BALLS IT BEING A WIDE DEVIATION I WAS CONCERNED, ALTHOUGH I KNOW THERE WAS WIDE SUPPORT FOR IN, BUT I STILL HAD CONCERNS SUPPORTING THAT.

>> READ IT OUT LOUD. >> SO, OUR CURTIN STANDARDS ARE 300 GALLONS PER DAY ON THEIR OVERALL PROPERTY WHICH IS JUST UNDER THREE ACRES THEY'RE ASKING FOR 3,000 GALLONS PER DAY.

IF YOU NOTICE OUR SURROUNDING COUNTIES, I BELIEVE THAT, I BELIEVE IN TRAVIS COUNTY THERE WOULDN'T BE ANY VARIANCE NEEDED ON THIS PROPERTY F. THERE WAS, I BELIEVE THEY'RE A THOUSAND GALLONS A DAY AS WELL. THIS IS A VERY UNIQUE SITUATION AS THEY'VE TRIED TO ESTABLISH AND PURCHASE ADDITIONAL PROPERTY SURROUNDING PROPERTY AND THEY'VE BEEN COMPLETELY UNABLE TO DO SO AGAIN, IF THERE WASN'T BROAD BASE PUBLIC SUPPORT FOR THIS THEN I PROBABLY WOULD HAVE A CONCERN.

IF THAT STILL IS A CONCERN AGAIN, THIS PROJECT WILL MOVE FORWARD, IF WE DON'T DO THIS. THEY WILL JUST SIMPLY GO THROUGH THE STATE PROCESS AND INSTEAD OF HAVING A PROJECT WHERE IT'S 3 NOUN GALLONS A DAY THEY WILL BUILD A SYSTEM LARGE ENOUGH TO HANDLE 5,000 GALLONS A DAY ON THE SAME PROPERTY.

>> WE HEAR THE THREAT REPEATEDLY BUT CAN YOU RUN THROUGH THE

LIST? >> THOSE ARE THE NUMBERS ON THE VARIANCE ITSELF. IS THOSE ARE THE NUMBERS.

>> THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT LESS THE THINGS WE ARE GOING TO

BENEFIT FROM, THE AGREEMENT. >> THAT'S WHAT I'M GETTING TO.

THE OTHER VARIANCE IS THE NEXT THING WITHIN THE AGREEMENT AND THAT IS FOR A, WHERE UNDER OUR DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT THERE'S A 25 FOOT SET BACK ON THE ENTIRE PORTION OF THE PROPERTY THE PORTION NEXT TO THE ROADWAY ON ELDER HILL THAT 25 FOOT SET BACK IS ELIMINATED BECAUSE THERE'S AN EXISTING COOLER THERE.

I DON'T BELIEVE IN LOOKING AT THE MAP IF YOU'LL LOOK AT THE MAP AND BACKUP, AND I CONTINUE NODE IF YOU HAVE A COPY OF IT I'M MORE THAN HAPPY TO GIVE YOU A COPY OF IT EXISTING THAT THE ROADWAY THAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT IS ELDER [INDISTINCT] ROAD AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE SURVEY MAP ITSELF WE TECHNICALLY ONLY HAVE PRESCRIBED EASEMENT ON THAT ROADWAY, WE DON'T HAVE DEEDED EASEMENT. I'VE GONE OUT WITH THE A TAPE MEASURE AND HER URD 25 FOOT FROM CENTER OF THE ROAD AND WE DON'T HIT WHAT THEY'RE LOOKING TO DO. ON A SURVEY IT SHOWS THAT IT WOULD INFRINGE ON THEIR PROPERTY A MINISCULE AMOUNT.

HOWEVER I CONTINUE BELIEVE THAT THE SURVEY ANY OF THE SURVEYS THAT HAVE BEEN DONE ARE ACCURATE AND THE VARIANCE IS OUT OF OVERABUNDANCE OF CAUTION IF THAT MAKES SENSE.

THE EQUAL PROTECTION REQUIREMENT AGAIN WE ARE REQUIRING THEM TO ADHERE TO ALL OF OUR OSSF RULES, WE ARE REQUIRING THEM AND FORGIVE ME IN I'M WRONG HERE MICHAEL IF YOU COME TO THE PODIUM I WANT TO MAKE SURE I DON'T MISS ANY OF THESE.

SO, THE SYSTEM AS OUTLINED IN YOUR BACKUP, WILL HAVE FENCING AND COMPLIANCE WITH TITLE 30 THE TEXAS ADMINISTRATIVE CODE WHICH

WE DON'T REQUIRE ON ALL STEPS. >> CAN YOU EXPAND A BIT?

FENCING ON WHAT PART AGAIN? >> AROUND THE SYSTEM ITSELF TO MAKE SURE THERE IS NO ONE WHO CAN GO AROUND THE SEPTIC FIELD.

>> OKAY, A FENCE AROUND THE SEPTIC SYSTEM, NOT THE PROPERTY.

>> CORRECT. >> GOT IT.

>> WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THOSE, THAT THAT FIELD SUN

[05:05:06]

>> ISN'T THAT GENERIC FOR HEALTH PERMIT?

>> NO. >> TO HAVE --

>> NOT WHAT I'M READING HERE ARE THINGS THAT WERE NEGOTIATED BY OUR DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DEPARTMENT THAT WE WOULD NEVER INCLUDE ON A D.A. ON A SEPTIC SYSTEM.

THESE ARE ALL THINGS THAT OUR HEALTH DEPARTMENT OR NOT OUR HEALTH DEPARTMENT BUT OUR DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DEPARTMENT UNDER HEALTH AND PUBLIC SAFETY ASKED FOR ADDITIONALLY THAT WE TO MY KNOWLEDGE HAD NEVER BEEN IN DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.

>> WILL YOU REPEAT THAT DUCTWORK STATEMENT AGAIN? I WANT TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND.

>> [READING]. >> WE DON'T REQUIRE THAT CURRENTLY. [READING] [READING] [READING]

>> AGAIN, SOMETHING THAT WE DON'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO REQUIRE. [READING]

>> AGAIN WHICH WE HAVE NO AUTHORITY TO REQUIRE.

>> I SAID THAT'S THE FIRST MEANINGFUL ONE, THE OTHER STUFF SEEMS LIKE STANDARD OPEN RAISING PROCEDURE FOR ANY BUSINESS OF THAT NATURE TO, ME BUT THAT DARK SKIES ONE IS SOMETHING THAT WE ACTUALLY ARE GOING TO BENEFIT FROM SO FAR.

>> IF YOU REMEMBER BOTH THOSE THEMES WERE REQUESTED BY THE COMMUNITY WHEN WE DISCUSSED THIS AT THE BEGINNING.

>> DON'T MAKE EVERY EFFORT THAT'S NOT A REQUIREMENT THAT'S NOT MANDATING THEM BECAUSE WE CAN'T BUT THEY'LL MAKE EVERY

EFFORT TO DO. >> WE WILL HAVE THE DEVELOPER HERE IF YOU HAVE A QUESTION, COMMISSIONER.

THOSE AGAIN -- LET ME LOOK HERE. THE REST OF THE OTHER THREE ITEMS IN HERE, ARE WHAT WE HAVE AS A STANDARD IN ANY OF THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS, DECLARANTS RIGHTS MAY BE IN WHOLE OR TO ONE OR MORE RELATED ENTITIES, SOME OTHER WORDS SHOULD THIS PROPERTY SELL ALL OUR RESTRICTIONS AND THOSE AGREEMENTS MUST STAY IN PLACE. SHOULD THE PROPERTY TRANSFER HANDS, IF THEY CREATE A PROPERTY OWNERS ASSOCIATION OR ANY OTHER POLITICAL SUBDIVISION THESE RULES AND THIS AGREEMENT MUST STAY IN PLACE. AND IF THEY ALLOW ANY OTHER PERSON OR ORGANIZATION TO USE THE PROPERTY, THEY MUST AGREE BY

THIS -- ABIDE BY THIS AGREEMENT. >> COMMISSIONER I YIELD TO YOU

FIRST. >> I CAN GO.

WANT ME TO GO? >> YES.

>> PERFECT. I WANT TO ASK YOU A QUESTION SINCE YOU WORK IN THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT.

>> GENERALLY SPEAKING DEVELOP. SERVICES.

[05:10:01]

RIGHT? >> YES CIRCUMSTANCES.

>> THAT'S WHO ENFORCES OUR HEALTH AND DEVELOPMENT CODE.

>> I AM ESTABLISHING DIE PLOG HERE FOR THE VIEWING PUBLIC, NOT FOR YOU BUT THANK YOU FOR THE INERUPTION.

SINCE YOU ARE CLEARLY IN THIS DEPARTMENT, I'M WONDERING WHAT IS OUR BENEFIT. BECAUSE I KNOW COMMISH INGALSBI-MY SUCH THE COMMISSIONER IS THINKING WHAT I'M THINKING. OH.

THANKS FOR NEGOTIATING A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT THAT SAYS YOU'RE GOING TO ADHERE TO OSSF RULES.

WITHOUT A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT THEY WOULD HAVE TO ADHERE TO THE OSSF RULES. AM I RIGHT?

>> YES, SIR. >> OKAY.

THAT IS A NATURE OF MY FRAMING. AND SO, THE WHOLE LITANY OF STUMBLED THROUGH THE READING THE COMMISSIONER DID WAS FOR THE MOST PART IN MY ASSESSMENT STANDARD OPERATING PROCEDURES AND LIKE COMMISSIONER IMGALSBY, DON'T GET ME WRONG, I BELIEVE THAT REBILL TATING THIS OLD FACILITY IN ONE OF THE MOST BEAUTIFUL PARTS OF OUR COUNTY IS A GREAT IDEA.

BUT I'M NOT SURE WHO MADE THIS DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, BUT IT JUST SEEMS A BUNCH OF VANILLA AND I'LL BE SURE TO AND I'LL CONSIDER AND I'LL MAKE SURE OF THAT, BUT SINCE WE USUALLY CAN'T HAVE OPEN VENTS IN FRONT OF FOOD PRODUCTION AREAS I'M GLAD IT'S A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT. THAT'S MY SARCASM FOR A MOMENT BUT I WILL SAY, HOW DO THESE GENERIC POLICY STANDARD OPERATING RETAIL OPERATIONAL BASICS MAKE IT INTO A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, WHEN THEY DON'T HAVE TO AGREE BY DOING BUSINESS WHEN THEY'RE ALREADY AGREEING TO IT?

WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THAT? >> SO SOME OF THE REQUIREMENTS THE COMMISSIONER READ DO GO ABOVE AND BEYOND OUR CURTIN REGULATIONS. SO WITH MAKING THEM POTENTIALLY CONNECT TO WATER OR WASTE WATER WHEN IT BECOMES AVAILABLE IS A REQUIREMENT THAT GOES ABOVE AND BEYOND WHAT OUR CURTIN REGULATIONS STAND FOR. ADDITIONALLY WITH THE NOTICE REQUIREMENTS TO WHERE IF SOMETHING DOES HAPPEN THEY HAVE TO NOTIFY THE COUNTY WITHIN 24 HOURS THAT DOES GO ABOVE AND BEYOND TYPICALLY THAT WOULD BE TO A PAINT NAN PROVIDER THAT DOESN'T HAVE TO NOTIFY THE COUNTY.

THERE ARE OVER AND ABOVE THE AGREEMENT.

>> SO THEY'LL HAVE TO NOTIFY AS A COMMERCIAL OPERATION IT WOULD HAVE A FAILURE OF A SEPTIC SYSTEM IN A VERY BEAUTIFUL HIGH PROFILE PLACE IF THEIR SEPTIC SYSTEM FAILS, WITHOUT A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT THEY DON'T HAVE TO TELL US IS WHAT YOU'RE

SAYING. >> NO.

THEY WOULD HAVE TO TELL US EVENTUALLY THAT THE MAINTENANCE PROVIDER IS GOING TO BE THAT FIRST PHONE CALL WITHIN 24-48 HOURS. WE WOULD BE NOTIFIED WITHIN 72 OR BUTTONS THE MAINTENANCE PROVIDER FIXED THE ISSUE IT

WOULD BE SENT TO OUR OFFICE. >> I COULD TEAR THIS APART FOR TEN MORE HOURS BUT WON'T. COMMISSIONER INGLALSBY.

>> MAKING, DO YOU KNOW WHAT THE AVAILABILITY OF WATER AND WASTE WATER IS IN THAT AREA? I MEAN, HOW LONG IT MAY BE AVAILABLE FOR THEM TO CONNECT. I'LL GO BACK TO MY ORIGINAL CONCERN THAT I STATED THE LAST TIME WE DISCUSSED THIS IS THAT DEVIATION ON THE GALLONS PER DAY ON THE WASTE WATER IS EXTREMELY HIGH AND I GUESS MY CONCERN IS, WHAT COULD HAPPEN IN THE FUTURE BY ALLOWING IN DEVIATION. I APPRECIATE THE DEVELOPERS WORKING US AND AGREEING TO ALL THESE THINGS BUT THAT'S MY MAJOR CONCERN SO I WANT TO KNOW, IS THERE A POSSIBILITY OF WATER AND WASTE WATER BEING AVAILABLE IN TWO YEARS? DO WE HAVE ANY IDEA WHERE IS THE NEAREST ZMEKS.

>> TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION COMMISSIONER I DON'T KNOW WHERE THE NEAREST CONNECTION IS. TYPICALLY DEVELOPMENT DRIVES THOSE CONNECTIONS. IT WOULD BE 2-3, 10, 15 YEARS DOWN THE ROAD. I DON'T KNOW.

>> DOES THE DEVELOPER KNOW? [INAUDIBLE]

>> JAKE STRAW, APPLICANT. I WANT TO CLARIFY THE MATH IS 300 GALLONS PER DAY PER ACRE, OUR TOTAL PROPERTY IS 2.78 ACRES, BY COUNTY STANDARDS WE WOULD BE ALLOWED 834 GALLONS PER DAY, WE ARE REQUESTING 3,000 SO THAT MATH IS SOMEWHERE BETWEEN

[05:15:05]

>> CLOSE ELSE CCN FOR THEM IS THE CORNER OF 150 AND 1826 AND IT'S SLATED TO BE DEVELOPED OUT WITH THE COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT THAT THEY WANT TO PUT THERE. I WANT TO SAY FOR THREE OR FOUR

YEARS. >> WE HAVE SPOKE WITHIN DISCOVERY LAND COMPANY IS CLOSEST KIND OF MAJOR DEVELOPMENT TO ASK IF THEY HAD EXCESS CAPACITY FOR WASTE WATER

AND THEY HAD DO NOT. >> WHAT I WILL SAY IS THEY HAVE BEEN REALLY GOOD ACTORS THERE, SAYING LIKE THE HIGHEST MAX THAT THEY COULD POTENTIALLY GO TO WHEN YOU SEE DEVELOPERS THAT SAY HERE IS OUR AVERAGE AND THEY DON'T ACCOUNT FOR PEAK, THEY'RE GIVING PRETTY MUCH PEAK LEVELS. SO, THAT'S IN MY OPINION IS ACTING IN GOOD FAITH BUT NOT ONLY THAT, THE COMMUNITY IS EXTREMELY WORRIED WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF THEY DIDN'T TAKE OVER THE DEVELOPMENT. THEY THINK THE GENERAL STORE WOULD BE TORN DOWN AND YOU KNOW SOMETHING THAT WOULDN'T WANT TO GO THERE THAT, THEY DIDN'T WANT TO GO THERE WOULD GO THERE RATHER THAN REIF YOU ARE BISHOPING THE GENERAL STORE AND MAKING IT A STAPLE FOR THE COMMUNITY.

SO THE COMMUNITY SUPPORT, THEY SUPPORTED IT, AND THEN WHENEVER WE CAME INTO COURT AND WE TALKED ABOUT THE POTENTIAL DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT AND HAVING EXACTLY WHAT THEY WANTED TO PUT INTO IT, SOMETHING THAT THEY COULD ENFORCE, THEY THEN BECAME, THEY WERE, I MET WITH THEM RIGHT AFTER WE HAD COURT THAT ONE TIME AND THEY SAID THAT WAS THE BEST SOLUTION WE COULD HAVE CAME UP WITH. WE SUPPORT THEM BEFORE.

NOW WE ARE EVEN MORE EXCITED ABOUT US GETTING EXACTLY WHAT WE

WANT. >> I WANT TO CHIME IN A SECOND ON WHAT COMMISSIONER HAMMER SAID AND I THINK IT WOULD BE BEST TO YOU CHASE. MERE INGALSBY IS SAYING THIS SOUND LIKE MAKE A REASONABLE EFFORT IN THE AGREEMENT AND COMMISSIONER HAMMER HAS CON INVESTIGATED THE SUPPORTING COMMUNITY IS GOING TO HAVE WHAT THEY WANT, AND I THINK THERE'S A CHASM IN LEGAL WORDING BETWEEN THOSE IDEAS SO DO YOU TO YOU MAKE IN AGREEMENT THAT IT WILL BE DONE THAT IT SHALL BE DONE? IS THAT A WAY TO EITHER ARTICULATE IT IS INCLUDED OR

MAKE IT SO? >> SO, THERE IS IN THE WORDING, THERE'S ALSO WHATEVER YOU'RE SAYING IS THAT THERE'S OBLIGATION ON SOME ONE THERE'S A RANGE, THERE'S THE IDEA OF PARTIALLY BEST EFFORTS, THERE IS EVERY EFFORT, THINGS LONG THOSE LINES AND THEY HAVE DIFFERENT [INDISTINCT] OF MEANING.

THAT'S WHY AT ONE POINT IN THE AGREEMENT IT SAYS COMMERCIALLY BEST EFFORTS AS OPPOSED TO ATTEMPTS.

IF THE COURT WANTED TO PROPOSE THE D.A. TO WHERE IT SEDIN STEAD OF FOR DARK SKIES MAKE EFFORT DESIGN IF THEY WANTED TO GET SOME SORT OF MANDATORY LANGUAGE THERE COULD BE A MODIFICATION TO THE LANGUAGE THERE, I'M JUST SAYING IT SHALL CONFORM TO DARK SKY COMPLIANCE. ANY AGREEMENT HAS TO BE BOTH

PARTIES AGREEING. >> RIGHT.

>> AND I DID WANT TO MAKE ONE POINT I DID MISSPEAK WHEN I SAID

10-X. >> AND I WILL SAY TO COMMISSIONER HAMMER I TRUST HER AND SO SHE HAS CAPTURED HER EXPERIENCE IN CONVERSATION AND I HEAR COMMISSIONER INGALS BI-'S CONCERN SO I WANT THEM TO HARM NICE.

MY AIM IS TO WORD IT AND THEY'RE GOOD ACTORS, THEY LOOK LOOK IT AND I REMEMBER THE STORY AND IT'S AWESOME AND I LOVE IT BEEN IN THE FAMILY ALL THIS TIME AND I FULLY SUPPORT IT SO WE HAVE NO DAYLIGHT BETWEEN WHAT SHE SAID AND SHE SAID.

ONCE YOU AGREE THAT HE CONTRIBUTION BUT TO AGREE TO MODIFY INSTEAD OF BEST EFFORTS TO YOU SHALL, YOU CAN DO THAT IN

THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT. >> WE CAN MAKE A FLOOR MOTION.

>> AND EVERYTHING THAT YOU'VE HEARD YOU'RE GOING TO COMMIT TO THAT YOU'RE ACTUALLY GOING TO DO.

>> SEE HOW THAT WORKS CHASE? SO YOU CAN MAKE THE POD IF I

[05:20:04]

>> YES. >> COMMISSIONER INGALSBY DOES

THAT SOUND BETTER? >> IF I APPRECIATE IT, YOU KNOW, EVEN THOUGH DARK SKIES ARE IMPORTANT TO ME THAT IS NOT MY CONCERN. IT'S THE OTHER.

IT TAKES THREE. >> RIGHT 100 PERCENT SO MY REFERENCING WAS NOT EXCLUSIVELY TO THE DARK SKIES BUT TO ALL THE OTHER I CALL THEM GENERIC BUT I UNDERSTAND, IT LOOKS GOOD ON PAPER. STANDARD PROCESSES THAT ARE IN THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT TO BE SHALL DO AND NOT WOULD BE NICE TO, AND AW SHUCKS YOU TRIED BEST EFFORTS FORWARD.

NO. SHALL.

CONCRETE. SHALL.

THEN THE VARIANCE ON THE PARKING ON THE STREET SIDE AND WE WILL GIVE THEM THE OTHER THINGS AND GO FROM A-34 TO W-K DO ALL THESE THINGS BUT TURN TO BE SHALL. SOUNDS BETTER?

>> YES. BASICALLY MY BIGGEST I GUESS THE MOST IMPORTANT I THINK WOULD BE TO HAVE THAT DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT BE OUR TICKET IF THEY WERE TO FALL OUT OF THOSE THINGS THAT WE ASKED THEM TO DO THAT WE HAVE A TICKET THING THIS IS WHAT YOU SAID YOU SAID YOU WOULD DO AND WE CAN GO AFTER THEM FOR

LEGAL ACTION. >> EXACTLY.

>> THE OTHER THING IS IF YOU DON'T WANT TO PUT SHALL YOU CAN SAY DEVELOPER WHATEVER THE NAME, AGREES TO COMPLY WITH, HOWEVER.

>> AND TO COMMISSIONER HAMMER'S POINT SOME OF THE LANGUAGE IN HERE THAT IS VERY STRONG TO THE POINT WHERE YOU KNOW, IF THEY DO DEVIATE, IF THEY DO OVERCOME, IF THEY DON'T ABIDE BY THE TERMS OF THE AGREEMENT, THERE IS A SMALL OPPORTUNITY TO CURE BUT I'M SURE THERE WAS A LOT OF BACK AND FORTH OVER TERMINATION OF THE DEFAULT LANGUAGE THERE, AND THAT WOULD ACTUALLY, THEY'VE WAVED THEIR BEST PROVISION ON 245 SO IF THEY HAD IN TEN YEARS FOR INSTANCE AT THAT POINT SOME ONE ELSE IN CHARGE AND THEY DON'T ABIDE BY THE AGREEMENT, THEY WOULD THEN BE UNDER THE RULES AT THAT TIME AND NOT PREVIOUS RULES AND LESS OVERTIME.

>> SO MICHAEL I GUESS I'LL ASK YOU ONE LAST QUESTION AS I CONSIDER, YOU FEEL CONFIDENT THAT WHAT WE HAVE PUT IN PLACE GIVES US PROTECTION IF SOMETHING WERE TO GO WRONG WITH THE GALLONS PER DAY? I MEAN, I KNOW THAT THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO NOTIFY US WIN, I THINK SO YOU FEEL CONFIDENT THAT IS A PROTECTION IN THE EVENT SOMETHING GOES WRONG.

>> YES, MA'AM, I DO. I'LL MAKE SURE THE SEPTIC SYSTEM IS OPTIMAL FOR WHAT THEY'RE THINKING ABOUT DOING AND MAY DO

IN THE FUTURE. >> OKAY.

>> COMMISSIONER HAMMER I NEED PARTING THOUGHTS BEFORE CALL THE

ROLL. >> NO, I WAS GOING TO SAY THERE ARE SOME PEOPLE OR PLAYERS OUT THERE YOU WOULD THINK THEY COULD POTENTIALLY COME BACK AND DO SOMETHING MISCHIEVOUS OR WITH ILL INTENT. I JUST DON'T FEEL THAT WAY.

>> GOOD DEAL. OKAY.

WE ARE GOOD? PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

THANK YOU GOOD LUCK. SORRY ABOUT THE SQUEEZE, BUT IT'S GOVERNMENT. WE GOT TO GET IT CLEAR.

WE GOT TO GET IT STRAIGHT. WE SUPPORT YOU AND GOOD LUCK.

>> THANKS. >> SO COMMISSIONER HAMMER YOU HAVE AN AGENDA ITEM YOU WANT TO OPEN.

>> I THINK WE DID IT. >> IS THERE ANYTHING SNEMS

COMMISSIONER INGALSBY? >> I KAJT -- CAN'T THINK OF

[I.1. Discussion and possible action to establish a Citizen's Transportation Committee to serve as an advisory body to the Commissioners Court regarding future Master Transportation Plan matters. COHEN/A.JONES]

ANYTHING. >> LET'S GO ERIN'S ITEMS ROADS AND SUBDIVISIONS. [READING]

>> THEY WANTED TO TABLE THAT. MY BAD.

[I.2. Discussion and possible action to approve a proposal from Roadway Asset Services, LLC to provide a field survey of pavement conditions on all County maintained roadways in the amount of $302,210.00. SMITH/A.JONES/HUNT]

>> [READING] >> SO MOVED.

>> THANK YOU. IF Y'ALL REMEMBER PROBABLY THREE YEARS GO, I'M GOING TO ASK ERIN TO GIVE SPECIFICS ON THIS COMPANY, BUT ABOUT THREE YEARS AGO WE TALKED ABOUT HAVING TO MOVE FORWARD WITH OUR ASSET MANAGEMENT IN A REAL WAY WHERE

[05:25:01]

>> I KNOW, OF AT LEAST A DOESEN THAT SAT DOWN WITH OUR TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT AND REQUESTED SOME TYPE OF ABILITY TO SHOW WHAT THEIR SECRET SAUCE S. EVERYONE OF THESE COMPANIES GOES ABOUT THIS IN A DIFFERENT WAY AND I THINK ERIN WENT THROUGH THE PROCESS AND FOUND THERE WAS A COMPANY DOING A LOT OF SUBCONTRACTING, AND THIS IS THE COMPANY SO INSTEAD OF CONTRACTING WITH ONETHEM, [INDISTINCT] AND PLEASE ADD

COLOR. >> AARON JONES, TRANSPORTATION

DIRECTOR. >> I LIKE EYE CONTACT.

>> SO, THIS CONTRACTOR ACTUALLY WOULD WORK WITH WHAT WE PASSED IN COURT A FEW SESSIONS BACK ON UPDATING OUR CURTIN SYSTEM.

OR, WE COULD ACTUALLY DO THE ASSESSMENT AS FAR AS FOR BUDGETARY AND RULES IN HOUSE WITH OUR STAFF.

WHAT THIS COMPANY DOES IS ACTUALLY GOES OUT, DRIVES THE ROAD WITH SENSORS ON THEIR BANDS, THEY'LL HIT EVERY ROADWAY IN ITS LANE, IT WILL CAPTURE NOT ONLY VISUALLY WITH CAMERAS BUT WITH SENSORS ROADWAY DISTRESSES, IT WILL COME BACK AND GIVE SCORING IN SEGMENTS OF BREAK DOWNS THE ROADWAY IN SEGMENTS AND WE WILL ACTUAL THEY COMPANY ACTUALLY WORKS WELL WITH OUR SOFTWARE THAT WE UP GRADED RECENTLY AND GIVE US THE ABILITY AND ALSO PICK UP NOT ONLY THE CONDITION OF THE PAVEMENT OF THE ROADWAYS BUT ALSO PICK UP OUR ROADWAY CGI AND THAT WAY HELP US AS FAR AS OUR MAINTENANCE ON THAT END ALSO KEEPING TRACK.

THIS WILL GIVE US SCORING. IT WILL GIVE US THE ABILITY TO LOOK INTO THE FUTURE, LOOK AT ACTUALLY HAVING REAL DATA THAT IS NOT JUST HOW WE HAVE DONE IN IT THE PAST WHERE IT'S BEEN VISUAL. WE ARE ALSO LOOKING AT THIS, IT'S PROBABLY REALISTICLY 3-5 YEARS, TO GIVE US SOME BENCHMARKS ON THIS, WHICH WILL HELP US AS WE BUILD OUR ROADWAY

PROGRAM. >> I APPRECIATE IT AND YOU'RE DOING A GREAT JOB TO DESCRIBE IT PERFECTLY BUT I DON'T THINK THERE'S ENOUGH TIME IN OUR DAY FOR YOU TO ADD ENOUGH COLOR TO A $302,000, $210 PRICE TAG TO DIGITIZE OUR ROADS AND I'M HAVING A HARD TIME SUPPORTING BECAUSE THAT'S OVER A QUARTER MILLION DOLLARS TO ASSESS OUR ROADS AND I THINK IT'S TOUGH.

>> COMMISSIONER INGALSBY. >> I KNOW YOU SAID YOU LOOKED AT OTHER COMPANIES AND I GUESS DID THEY GIVE YOU PRICINGS SNLS.

>> YES, AND THIS IS ACTUALLY WORKING WITH STEPHANIE.

THIS IS THROUGH BY BOARD SO IT IS DISCOUNTED THROUGH THOSE.

IT'S SIMILAR. THEY DID GUADALUPE COUNTY THEIR ROADWAY IS ESPINALL, COMPANIES WE PRICED OUT SIMILAR COMPANIES THEY'RE WITH LANE MILES VS. ROAD MILES THEIRS WERE SIMILAR.

OTHER COMPANIES WITH GIVING US PLAIN MILES OR ROAD MILES WHICH WOULD ONLY DO ONE PASS AND THOSE COMPANY ACTUALLY WHEN THEY WERE DOING THEIR SWECHLTS WERE A.I. DRIVEN, WHAT THE THEIR SENSORS WOULD ACTUALLY PROBABLE WHICH WE FELT OUT OF IN COMPANY GIVING US THE ABILITY TO SEE ACTUAL LANE MILES WITH THEIR SENSORS NOT PROJECTION GIVES AS YOU BETTER EVALUATION, SINCE WE HAVE NEVER, THIS IS ONE OF THOSE IN YEARS BACK WE LOOKED AT THIS SIMILAR TYPE OF DEAL THAT'S PROBABLY BEEN ABOUT SIX, SEVEN YEARS AGO WHEN JERRY WAS DIRECTOR WE ACTUALLY LOOKED AT THIS AND BACK THEN WE WERE LOOKING AT ROUND 2 UP TO $200,000 THERE SO THAT TIME FRAME WE WERE LOOKING THAT THIS GIVES AS YOU VERY GOOD LOOK

[05:30:02]

IT'S GOING TO GIVE US THE ABILITY TO ASSESS WHAT WE HAVE.

ADDITIONAL COST TO THAT WAS WE ADDED IN A BIT OF THEIR OPTIONS WHICH IS GOING TO HELP WITH US THIS FIRST YEAR OF TRANSITIONING ON SOME OF THE TRAINING AND THE OTHER IS THE SIGNED PART OF THAT SO WHAT WE LOOKED AT THAT DOLLAR AMOUNT THAT ADDED TO THAT, WAS IT'S ACTUALLY GOING TO PICK UP EVERY SIGN, SIGN REFLECTOR, EVERYTHING WE HAVE IN THE ROAD. IF WE PUT STAFF OUT THERE DOING THAT, WITH THE GPS, TAKING A PICTURE OF IT, THERE'S NO WAY THAT DOLLAR AMOUNT WOULD -- WE WOULD HAVE TO DEDICATE SOMEBODY FOR A FEW MONTHS AND DRIVE IT. THIS WE ARE CATCHING AND COLLECTING BOTH THE ROADWAY ASSESSMENT AND OUR SIGNAGE AND

REFLECTORS AT ONE TIME. >> EVEN IF SOME ONE OUT THERE A FEW MONTHS. COMMISSIONER.

>> I DIDN'T KNOW THAT COMMISSIONER SMITH MENTIONED THIS, BUT AFTER THAT INFORMATION IS COLLECTED, THEN WHAT HAPPENS TO IT? IT BELONGS TO US?

>> YES. YES.

SO, WHAT THEY'LL DO IS OVER THE SUMMER THEY'LL DRIVE EACH OF THE ROADS AND THEY'LL BRING IN ALL THAT DATA.

THERE ARE DIFFERENT VARIABLES THEY DO ON THEIR SCORING.

SO THROUGH THAT, THEY'LL COLLECT ALL OF THAT AND THEN IT WILL BE PROBABLY NOVEMBER-DECEMBER THEY'LL BE ABLE TO START DOWNLOADING THAT DATA INTO OUR CURTIN SYSTEM.

IT WILL BE OURS. ONCE WE HAVE THAT BASELINE WE WILL BE ABLE TO BUILD OFF THAT BASELINE UNTIL TO GET VALUES

WHERE WE ARE AT ON THE ROADS. >> AND SO, BECAUSE IT IS A LARGE INVESTMENT THEN WHAT HAPPENS AFTER THAT, AFTER THAT ASSESSMENT IS DONE? WE HAVE THE INFORMATION.

DO THEY HAVE TO COME BACK OUT AND UPDATE?

>> WE ARE DONE WITH THEM AS FAR AS THAT.

THEY WORKED WITH THE CURTIN, OUR CURTIN COMPANY THAT WE UTILIZE FR OUR SOFTWARE FOR OUR MANAGEMENT THAT WE USE THEY WORKED WITH THEM IN OTHER MUNICIPALITIES AND ALSO SOME STAFF HAS CROSSED OVER SO THEY'RE VERY FAMILIAR WITH PUTTING IT INTO THE SYSTEM SO WE CAN UTILIZE IT.

IT WILL BE OUR DATA. BUT ONE THING ABOUT THIS, THIS ISN'T SOMETHING THAT ANY -- THIS IS ACTUALLY THE SENSORS THEY'LL LOOK AT THE RUTTING OF THE ROAD CRACKS CONDITION OF SERVICE, ANY DEVIATION IN THAT, THIS WILL GIVE DATA ON THAT, SOMETHING THAT WE HAVEN'T SEEN BEFORE WITH ANYTHING WE HAVE DONE.

IT'S GOING A VERY COMPREHENSIVE PROGRAM AND IT SUPPORTS WHAT WE ARE LOOKING AT AS WE MOVE FORWARD IT'S GOING TO GIVE US SOME VERY GOOD DAD, SOME. TEST RUNS HAD THAT THEY DID A TEN MILE TEST RUN WITH US WE CAN LOOK AT THAT DATA AND IT WAS INTERESTING TO SEE IN AREAS WHERE THEY MIGHT HAVE DONE THREE MILES OF ROAD, IT BROKE IT UP INTO SEGMENTS TO WHERE WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO SEE AREAS THAT SCORE LOW ON THAT SCALE TO, WHERE THE OTHER AREAS WERE HIGHER WHERE WE WOULDN'T HAVE TO REALLY BE IN THE 80S IN THOSE AREAS WE ARE WERE IN THE 20S SO IT KIND OF GIVES US THE ABILITY TO LOOK AT A WHOLE STRETCH OF ROADWAY AND MAYBE AS WE PLAN OUR MAINTENANCE OF THOSE PROJECTS THEY DON'T NEED TO DO THE ENTIRETY OF THE ROAD BUT CAN BREAK IT DOWN WHERE NOW WE ARE LOOKING AT ENTIRE ROAD WAYS BECAUSE THAT'S HOW WE SCORE. THIS IS GOING TO GIVE US THE ABILITY TO BREAK THAT DOWN INTO SEGMENTS WHICH WILL MAKE OUR CREWS ON PAINTIANS AND CI PLANS WHERE WE CAN CONCENTRATE THOSE AND SAVE MONEY IN THE LONG RUN. ONE OF THESE THAT SCORED HIGH BUT THERE WAS ISOLATED AREAS WE CAN DONS TRAIT THAT INTO WHERE WE ARE NOT SPEND NAGD DOING THE ENTIRETY OF THE ROAD AND DO A LITTLE BETTER FOR OUR FUNDING AN BUDGET.

>> SO BASICALLY A ONE-TIME COST ON THE CURTIN ROAD THE TRANSPORTATION SYSTEM THAT WE HAVE NOW.

>> YES MONTH YES. >> OKAY.

AND YOU HAVE THIS IN YOUR BUDGE SENATE.

>> YES. YES AND WE BUDGETED THIS FOR LAST YEAR, KNOWING THAT WE WERE LOOKING AT THIS.

I BELIEVE WE WERE LOOKING AT AND I THINK SCOTT, I THINK WE PUT IN THE BUDGET, I I THINK IT WAS ABOUT A HALF MILLION WE WERE

[05:35:01]

WERE ANTICIPATING. >> YEAH.

I REMEMBER JENNIFER SPOKE I WOULD IMAGINE TO ALL OF US.

>> AND WE LOOKED AT LOT OF S SYSTEMS. I THINK WE MIGHT HAVE MET WITH 123 DIFFERENT GROUPS 10 OR 1.

EVERYONE HAD THEIR OWN VARIABLE. THERE WERE SOME CONSULT FIRMS THAT DID THIS TESTING INTERNALLY.

THEY HAD THEIR OWN TRUCKS AND THAT.

THE DIFFERENCE IS WE CAN SELF PERFORM THIS, AND IT IS SOMETHING THAT WE ARE NOT BOUND TO ONE GROUP, WE WOULD HAVE TO UTILIZE THOSE CONSULTANTS EVERY TIME WE WANTED TO DO SOMETHING OR IF ANYBODY WANTED A CHANGE.

THE OTHER PART OF THAT IS, IF IT'S KIND OF IN THAT PUZZLE OF WHAT WE DID WITH THE SOFTWARE, THE UPGRADE, TO WHERE WE CAN PROJECT OUT AND IT GIVES US A GOOD BASELINE THAT IT IS NOT JUST, WE KNOW THAT SOMETHING OVER THE YEARS -- AND WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT THAT WE DO EVERY OTHER YEAR, WE ARE VISUALLY DOING THESE. IT IS NOT ON THE OPINION OF SOMEONE THAT IS JUST VISUALLY DOING AN ASSESSMENT.

THIS IS ACTUAL, REAL DATA. WITH THAT, THERE IS GOING TO BE SOME AS WE GET THIS DATA, WE WILL SEE ROADWAYS THAT THE SCORING, WE MIGHT GO LOWER, IT WILL GIVE US THAT ABILITY TO RELIEVE TAKE OUR PROGRAM AS FAR AS MAINTENANCE AND GIVE IT A GOOD SHOT IN THE ARM TO DO BETTER AS FAR AS PROJECTING OUR

BUDGET BETTER. >> COMMISSIONER?

>> I WOULD JUST SAY, I HAVE TALKED TO AARON AT LENGTH ABOUT THIS EXACT SERVICING TOOL AND WHO HE HAS MET WITH, AND BACK IN MARCH, I THINK YOU MET WITH SEVEN PEOPLE.

AND HE HAS TAKEN HIS TIME AT THIS IN MAKING SURE THAT IT IS THE RIGHT FIT WITH THE RIGHT INTEGRATION AND THE RIGHT COMPANY, SO I VERY MUCH DO TRUST HIM.

I KNOW THE $302,000 IS NOT NOTHING, BUT I ALSO THINK THAT IT IS GOING TO BE BENEFICIAL FOR OUR CONSTITUENTS.

I GET CALLS ALL THE TIME. HEY, WHERE ARE YOU OUT ON THIS ROAD? WE HAVE TO ASSESS ALL OF THE ROADS AND PUT THEM IN PRIORITIZATION, SO THIS IS GETTING US THERE TO GIVE THEM TIMELINES AND GIVE THEM A LITTLE MORE DIRECTION THAN JUST KIND OF UP IN THE AIR TYPE OF ANSWERS.

>> ONE THING I WOULD SAY THAT REALLY IMPRESSED ME, YOU KNOW, AS COMMISSIONERS CAN WE GET CALLS ALL THE TIME ABOUT, MY ROAD HAS NOT BEEN PAVED IN TEN YEARS, MY ROAD HAS NOT BEEN PAVED IN FIVE YEARS, WE DID THIS TREATMENT TO IT FIVE YEARS AGO, BUT NOTHING HAS REALLY BEEN DONE, AND YOU KNOW, THEY DON'T LIKE A SLURRY TREATMENT OR XYZ. WITH THIS, IT REALLY GIVES US WHAT WE CAN LOOK AT THE CONDITION OF THE ROADWAY IS, HOW IT IS WAVERING GIVING THE TRAFFIC THAT IS ON ED, HOW MANY CARS ARE GOING ACROSS EVERY DAY. IF IT CAN'T ESTIMATE THOSE THINGS, WE CAN SAY, THE ROADWAY WE DO JUST PUT IN, INSTEAD OF REBUILDING IT IN TEN YEARS, YOU KNOW WHAT, IF WE GO -- INSTEAD OF REBUILDING IN 15 OR 20 YEARS, IF WE GO IN EIGHT YEARS WHERE WE SEE WHERE THE PROBLEMS ARE, WE CAN ADDRESS THAT AND EXTEND THAT TO 25 OR 30, WHEREAS RIGHT NOW, IT IS JUST THE VISUAL ASSESSMENT, IT IS REALLY HARD. THE ONE THING THAT I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WAS IN WHATEVER WE DID -- WELL, TWO THINGS THEY ARE NUMBER ONE, IS THE TRUTH ASSET MANAGEMENT.

IDENTIFYING ALL OF THE ASSETS WE HAVE.

WE MENTION SIGNS, WE MENTIONED THINGS LIKE THAT.

BUT WE HAVE CREWS THAT SPECIFICALLY GO OUT AND WORK ON THOSE THINGS, AND WE DON'T NECESSARILY KNOW WHERE THEY ARE WHEN WE GET A CALL, HEY, THERE IS A STOP SIGN DOWN THIS ROAD OR THE USE REFLECTORS HAVE ALL BEEN TAKEN OUT BY SOME TYPE OF ROADWAY INCIDENT. NOW WE HAVE ALL OF THAT -- WE WILL HAVE ALL OF THAT DATA. THE OTHER THING THAT WAS REALLY THE MOST IMPORTANT TO ME WAS WHATEVER SYSTEM WE WENT WITH, AND HAD TO BE A SYSTEM THAT WAS USABLE BY OUR MAINTENANCE CREWS AND PEOPLE WHO ARE ON THE GROUND USING IT.

I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY CONVERSATIONS I HAD WITH AARON, AND JENNIFER, ABOUT THE FACT THAT WHATEVER WE DO, IT HAS TO BE USABLE, WE COULD HAVE ALL OF THE DATA IN THE WORLD BUT IF NOBODY IS GOING TO USE IT, IT WILL BE SITTING ON A COMPUTER SOMEWHERE, THEN IT IS NOT WORTH IT.

SO I HAVE CONFIDENCE THAT AARON HAS MADE THE RIGHT DECISION

HERE. >> AND I WANT TO CLARIFY.

I DO FULLY BELIEVE IN YOU, AARON, AND LIKE COMMISSIONER HAMMER SAID, TOTAL TRUST IN YOUR THOUGHT PROCESS AND DILIGENCE.

MY STATEMENT, THERE IS NOT ENOUGH DAYLIGHT TO GET MORE COLOR TO THE TO 300,000 EXPENSE, WHERE THE SIGNS ARE, BECAUSE AS

[05:40:05]

HONESTLY, IT IS AWESOME. IT TELLS ME IT IS MAGNIFICENT AND IT WOULD MAKE EVERYONE'S LIVES EASIER, BUT I ALSO KNOW, COMMISSIONER INGALSBE TRAVELS ALL OF THE ROADS.

SHE TRAVELS ALL HER ROADS. I KNOW WHAT TO BECAUSE SHE SAYS IT. AND SO I BELIEVE, IF I WAS DUE -- THIS IS NOT A SLIGHT ON YOU, AARON, THIS IS NOT MY INTENT -- I BELIEVE IF I WERE TO CALL COMMISSIONER INGALSBE, I AM ON THIS ROAD AND I AM PRETTY SURE SHE COULD LOCATE IT.

OH COME ON THIS TREE? I KNOW THAT.

I WILL GO CHECK IT OUT. I HAVE CONFIDENCE, AND AS COMMISSIONER SMITH ALSO SAID, AS ROAD COMMISSIONERS, AS ROAD COMMISSIONERS, YOU SHOULD BE DRIVING ROADS AND UNDERSTAND THE CONDITION OF THE ROADS, AND YOU DO A GREAT JOB OF TRACKING AND MAINTAINING AND IMPROVING. CAN WE DO BETTER? OF COURSE, WE CAN ALWAYS DO I LIKE THAT YOU SAID THAT AND THIS WILL HELP US DO BETTER. OF COURSE IT WILL.

IT WILL GIVE US A SHARPER EDGE INEFFICIENCY, NO DOUBT.

BUT I BELIEVE THAT WE ARE IN A POINT RIGHT NOW WHERE A LAYMAN WHO DOES NOT KNOW WHAT THING ABOUT ROAD COMMISSIONERS CAN DRIVE AND SAY, THESE ARE THE WORST ROADS IN THE COUNTY OVER HERE OR THIS ROAD ISN'T REAL TOP SHAPE, WITHOUT BEING A ROAD COMMISSIONER OR A TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT PERSON, TO SPEND $302,210 ON A COOL SUPPORT TOOL IS -- I JUST DON'T THINK IT IS

IDEAL TIMING. >> WELL, AND PART OF THAT IS THAT WE DID BUDGET THIS. THIS IS PART OF, WHEN WE ARE LOOKING AT OUR PLAN OF HOW WE MOVE FORWARD, AND THIS IS A PIECE, ONE OF THOSE TOOLS THAT WE HAVE, I WOULD SAY THAT THIS IS NOT -- BECAUSE, TRUST ME, I SPEAK WITH COMMISSIONER INGALSBE ALL THE TIME ON ROADS, WHAT WE DO ON THE ROADS AND I CAN PRETTY WELL TELL YOU EVERY POTHOLE IN EVERY PLACE IN THE COUNTY, WHEN I GET THOSE CALLS. HOWEVER, WHAT I WOULD SAY IS, THERE IS GOING TO COME A DAY WHEN I AM READY TO RETIRE, ANY OF THOSE MEMBERS ARE. THIS PLAN, PUTTING IT TOGETHER, SIMILAR TO MOST AS WE ARE GROWING AND AS THIS COUNTY IS GETTING -- GOING FROM RURAL TO URBANIZED, ANY OF THESE COUNTIES, YOU LOOK AT THAT -- PERFECT EXAMPLE, THEY ARE DOING THE SAME THING, WHERE OTHER COUNTIES AND MUNICIPALITIES HAVE DONE THE SAME THING TO EVALUATE THE ROAD.

IT IS A TOOL THAT WE NEED. WHAT IT DOES IS WE CAN ALWAYS GO BACK AND SAY, OKAY, THIS IS OUR BUDGET AND THIS IS OUR LINE BUT HAVING THAT DATA, WE HAVE NEVER HAD THAT TRUE DATA.

IT HAS BEEN BASED ON JUST OBSERVATION, AND WE CAN DEFINITELY DRIVE THIS AND SAY, THIS IS A BAD ROAD.

WHAT I THINK THIS TOOL GIVES US AND HELPS US IN THE SAVINGS IN THE LONG RUN IS IT GIVES US THE FIRST BASELINE THAT WE HAVE AND THE ABILITY TO ISOLATE THOSE AREAS THAT ARE IN THE WORST CONDITIONS, WHERE WE ARE NOT DEDICATING -- BECAUSE TYPICALLY, WHAT WE HAVE DONE VISUALLY AS WE DEDICATE SOMEBODY EVERY OTHER YEAR TO DO THAT, TO DRIVE THOSE ROADS AND IT IS THAT POINT OF VIEW OF THAT PERSON. IN THE PAST I WOULD SAY FIVE TO SIX YEARS, WE HAVE HAD TO ROTATE THAT PERSON BECAUSE OF LOSS OF PERSONNEL AND THROUGH RETIREMENT AND ATTRITION AND THAT.

THIS GIVES US THAT BASELINE WITH WORKING WITH THE SYSTEM THAT WE UPGRADED, WITH THE SCENARIO BUILDER, THAT PUTS THAT DATA IN THAT POINT TO WHERE IT GIVES US THE ABILITY TO PROJECT OUT, AND GIVES US A GOOD STARTING LINE, BECAUSE WE CAN ENTER THAT DATA IN NOW, BUT IT IS NOT THAT REAL-TIME DATA.

THIS IS MORE OF A SENSOR-ORIENTED, MORE TECHNICAL EVALUATION OF THE ROADWAYS. AND ANY OF THE COUNTIES ARE A SIZE AND GROWING ARE DOING THE SAME TYPES OF DEAL.

ANY OF THESE CONSULTANTS THAT WE WOULD HIRE TO COME OUT AND DO THAT WOULD BE DOING THE SAME THING, AND THIS WOULD BE WRAPPED INTO THEIR PROGRAM THAT THEY WOULD YOU ALSO.

>> AND I WOULD NEVER TRY TO ARGUE WITH YOU ABOUT THE UTILITY OR THE VALUE OF THIS TECHNOLOGY. I COULD NOT AGREE WITH YOU MORE.

IT IS EXACTLY IDEAL AND AWESOME. I THINK IT IS GREAT TECHNOLOGY,

[05:45:01]

BUT MY POINT IS, THE TECHNOLOGY IS GOOD BUT IN MY EYES, THE TIMING INCIDENT. THAT IS ALL.

BUT THE TECHNOLOGY IS AMAZING. I THINK IT IS AWESOME.

IF THAT IS NOTHING ELSE, WE WILL CALL?

>> MY ROADS -- I'VE GOT A LOT MORE ROADS OVER THERE THAN OTHERS. SO FOR ME --

>> BECAUSE SHE SAYS IT OUT LOUD. THERE YOU GO.

THERE YOU GO. SO IF THERE IS NOTHING ELSE,

CALL ROLE? >> COMMISSIONER INGALSBE.

[I.3. Discussion and possible action to authorize the execution of a Transportation Improvement Construction and Contribution Agreement for the intersection at US 290 and Canyonwood Drive. SMITH/A.JONES]

>> KEEP GOING DOWN THE LIST. >> I-3.

DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION TO AUTHORIZE THE EXECUTION OF A TRANSPORTATION IMPROVEMENT CAN CONSTRUCTION AN CONTRIBUTION AGREEMENT FOR THE INTERSECTION AT U.S. 290 AND

CANYONWOOD DRIVE. >> SECOND.

>> THIS IS THE CITY OF DRIPPING SPRINGS.

THEY APPROVED A DEVELOPMENT ON THE CORNER OF CANYONWOOD DRIVE AND 290 AND WITH THAT, THEY HAVE REQUESTED SEVERAL TRANSPORTATION IMPROVEMENTS TO THAT ROADWAY. SINCE THEY CONNECT ON THE DEVELOPMENT CONNECTS ON THE TWO SIDES, ONE SIDE TO U.S. 290, AND ONE SIDE WITH NORTH CANYON WOOD, THEY HAVE SUGGESTED THAT THEY BUILD A LIGHT AT THE INTERSECTION.

THE ONLY REQUEST TO US WAS IN THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT THAT THE CITY REACHED WITH THEM THAT, AS A PORTION OF THAT, THE PORTION OF THAT AGREEMENT, WE LOOKED AT THE STAGING AND THE TRANSPORTATION INFRASTRUCTURE -- TRANSPORTATION ANALYSIS, RATHER, AND WE THOUGHT THAT THERE NEEDED TO BE AN ADDITIONAL TURN LANE THEY ARE. THE CITY HAS AGREED TO PAY A PORTION OF THAT, AND WE HAVE AGREED TO PAY A PORTION OF THAT.

CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, AARON, BUT OUR PORTION IS 20%?

>> 20.1%. IT IS ROUGHLY $32,000 AND CHANGE, NOT TO EXCEED THAT AMOUNT.

IT IS 250-FOOT TURN LANE, OUR PORTION OF IT IS JUST FOR THE TURN LANE, ALL THAT FALLS UNDER THE OTHER AGREEMENTS.

>> THE OVERALL PROJECT AS HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS AND OUR COMMITMENT TO IT WOULD BE NO MORE THAN THAT.

>> SO THE $32,000, THAT IS OUR COMMITMENT?

>> YES, SIR. IT IS 20%.

IT IS NOT TO EXCEED THAT AMOUNT. >> THE IDEA OF THE TURNING LANES, THE MORE TURNING LANES WE CAN GIVE PEOPLE, THE BETTER,

BECAUSE IT IS SAFER. >> COMMISSIONER HAMMER, GOOD?

[I.4. Discussion and possible action to consider the release of the 2-year maintenance bond #PB03016800850M 1 in the amount of $71,130.58, the 1-year revegetation bond #PB03016800850M in the amount of $13,467.04, and the acceptance of roads into the county road maintenance system for 6 Creeks Subdivision, Phase 1, Section 9. HAMMER/A.JONES]

SECTION 9. >> PLEASE CALL ROLL.

[I.5. Discussion and possible action to accept fiscal surety for street and drainage improvements in the amount of $833,805.04 for the Waterstone, Unit E, Final Plat (Subdivision Bond #024293804 ). INGALSBE/BOUTTE/A.JONES]

>> COMMISSIONER SMITH. COMMISSIONER HAMMER.

COMMISSIONER INGALSBE. JUDGE BECERRA.

I-5. DISCUSSION ON POSSIBLE ACTION TO ACCEPT PHYSICAL SURETY FOR STREET AND DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENTS IN THE AMOUNT OF $833.854 FOR THE WATERSTONE UNIT E, FINAL PLAT. SUBDIVISION BOND 024293804.

>> SECOND. >> PLEASE CALL ROLL.

[I.6. Discussion and possible action to authorize the execution of a Contract for Engineering Services (2026-PSA-76) between Hays County and Pape-Dawson Consulting Engineers, LLC to provide design services for the RM 12 at Jacobs Well project in Precinct 3 and amend the budget accordingly. HAMMER/A.JONES]

>> DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION TO AUTHORIZE THE EXECUTION OF A CONTRACT FOR ENGINEERING SERVICES, 202 2026-PSA-76, BETWN HAYS COUNTY AND PAPE-DAWSON CONSULTING ENGINEERS TO PROVIDE DESIGN SERVICES FOR THE RM 12 AT JACOB'S WELL PROJECT AND PRESENT THREE AND AMEND THE BUDGET ACCORDINGLY.

>> SECOND. >> PLEASE CALL ROLL.

[I.7. Discussion and possible action to authorize the execution of a Contract for Engineering Services (2026-PSA-48) between Hays County and Cobb, Fendley & Associates, Inc. toprovide utility coordination services for the Bunton Lane/Heidenreich Lane/Grist Mill Road project in Precincts 1 and 2. INGALSBE/COHEN/A.JONES]

>> I-7. DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO AUTHORIZE THE EXECUTION OF A CONTRACT FOR ENGINEERING

[05:50:01]

ASSOCIATES, AND PRE61 AND 2. >> SECOND.

>> PLEASE CALL ROLL.

[I.8. Discussion and possible action to authorize the selection of Kimley-Horn and Associates, Inc. for professional engineering services to update the Hays County Long-Range Transportation Plan and authorize staff to negotiate a Professional Services Agreement. INGALSBE/SMITH/A.JONES]

>> I-A PEER DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION TO AUTHORIZE ITS ELECTION FOR PROFESSIONAL ENGINEERING SERVICES TO UPDATE THE LONG-RANGE TRANSPORTATION PLAN AND AUTHORIZE STAFF TO NEGOTIATE A PROFESSIONAL SERVICES AGREEMENT.

>> SECOND. >> PLEASE CALL THE.

[I.9. Discussion and possible action to approve the selection of Bowman Consulting Group, Ltd. to provide design services for the Cotton Gin Road project in Precinct 1; and authorize staff and counsel to negotiate a contract. INGALSBE/A.JONES]

>> SUBMIT. >> ANYTHING ELSE TO

>> THIS IS A CONTINUATION OF SERVICES, IT IS NOT CORRECT, AARON? I THINK THEY ARE THE CURRENT

DESIGNER? >> YES, MOST OF THESE ARE, BECAUSE OF THE TIME DELAYS ON SOME OF THESE PROJECTS, THEY ARE JUST UPDATING WHAT THEY HAVE ON DESIGNS.

>> PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

[I.10. Discussion and possible action to approve the selection of Cobb, Fendley & Associates, Inc. to provide design services for the Fitzhugh Road Curves project in Precinct 4; and authorize staff and counsel to negotiate a contract. SMITH/A.JONES.]

>> SAFETY CONSIDERATIONS? >> YES, ONE OF THE THINGS I WOULD SAY, AARON, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG -- WE GET THREE SUBMISSIONS FOR ADDITIONAL GRANT FUNDING SO OVERALL PROJECT, WE BROKE OUT THE CURVES PROJECT, WE BROKE OUT IN THERE SPECIFICALLY TO APPLY FOR THE GRANT FUNDING, AND WE WERE SUCCESSFUL AND RECEIVING THE GRANT FOR A PORTION OF THAT, AND SO THIS IS THAT SPECIFIC PORTION OF THAT PROJECT.

>> WELL DONE. PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

[I.11. Discussion and possible action to adopt a Resolution of Support and financial commitment for the submission of a grant application to the Federal Railroad Administration (FRA) Consolidated Rail Infrastructure and Safety Improvements Program (CRISI) Grant Program for the Hays County Centerpoint Crossing Elimination and Safety Project. HAMMER/A.JONES]

>> I HAVE A AND PEER DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO ADOPT A RESOLUTION OF SUPPORT AND FINANCIAL COMMITMENT FOR THE SUBMISSION OF A GRANT APPLICATION TO THE FEDERAL RAILROAD ADMINISTRATION, FRA, CONSOLIDATED RAIL INFRASTRUCTURE AND SAFETY IMPROVEMENTS PROGRAM, GRANT PROGRAM FOR THE HAYS COUNTY CENTERPOINT CROSSING ELIMINATION AND SAFETY PROJECT.

>> SECOND. >> PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

[I.12. Discussion and possible action to adopt a Resolution of Support and financial commitment for the submission of a grant application to the Federal Railroad Administration (FRA) Railroad Crossing Elimination (RCE) Grant Program for the Hays County Centerpoint Crossing Elimination and Safety Project. HAMMER/A.JONES]

>> SUBMIT. >> SECOND.

[J.1. PLN-2849-NP; Ratify Approval for the Mason Phase 2, Final Plat. INGALSBE/BERLAD]

>> PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. >>

>> YES. LET'S GO THROUGH J.

>> RATIFY APPROVAL FOR THE MASON PHASE 2 FINAL PLAT.

>> SUBMIT. >> SECOND.

[Items J.2. - J.4. ]

>>

>> RATIFY APPROVAL FOR THE PAUSE ADDITION TO FINAL PLAT.

[READING] RATIFY APPROVAL FOR THE REPLAT.

AND. [READING] RATIFY APPROVAL FOR THE PADDOCKS FINAL PLAT.

>> SUBMIT FOR APPROVAL. >> SECOND.

[J.5. Discussion and possible action to consider granting a variance to the 2014 Hays County On-Site Sewage Facility Regulations, Section 10 (D), Table 10-1 Minimum Lot Size for the Twin Bluffs, Lots 22, 23, 24, and 25, Amended Plat (PLN-2927-PC). HAMMER/BERLAD]

>> DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO CONSIDER GRANTING A VARIANCE TO THE 2014 HAYS COUNTY ON-SITE SEWAGE FACILITY REGULATIONS, SECTION 10, TABLE 10-1 MINIMUM LOT SIZE FOR THE TWIN BLUFFS LOTS 22, 23, 24, AND 25 AMENDED PLAT.

[READING] >> SUBMIT.

>> SECOND. >> ALL RIGHT, NOW YOU ARE UP.

>> I WILL GIVE A LITTLE BIT -- THIS IS JUST COMBINING -- WE ARE COMBINING FOUR LOTS INTO ONE. I AM ALWAYS FOR THAT MOTION, AND

[05:55:03]

>> THAT IS CORRECT. AND GOOD AFTERNOON, COMMISSIONERS AND JUDGE BECERRA. YES, THERE IS A SEPTIC SYSTEM ON THE PROPERTY ENTERED AN EXISTING PRIVATE WEALTH.

AS COMMISSIONER HAMMER, THE LOTS WILL BE COMBINED INTO ONE.

THAT WILL CONSIST OF THE 2.82 ACRES, AND THIS PROJECT PROPERTY LIES WITHIN THE PRIORITY GROUNDWATER MANAGEMENT AREA, ALSO KNOWN AS THE EDWARDS AQUIFER CONTRIBUTING ZONE.

PER TABLE 10-1 OF THE HAYS COUNTY ON-SITE REGULATIONS, OUR MINIMUM REQUIREMENT IS 6 ACRES.

SO 2.82, LASTLY UNDER IT, PROPERTY OWNER REQUESTED THE

VARIANCE TO THOSE REGULATIONS. >> BUT AGAIN, IT IS FOUR LOTS NOW, THE SAME EXACT INFRASTRUCTURE CURRENTLY OUT

THERE. >> PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

[J.6. PLN-2903-NP; Discussion and possible action regarding final determination for the Waterstone, Unit E, Final Plat. INGALSBE/BERLAD]

FOR THE FINAL PLAT. >> SUBMIT.

>> ALL RIGHT. >> THE HAYS COUNTY SENIOR PLANNER. AS THE FINAL PLAT PROPOSES 198 LOTS IN TOTAL, ACROSS 32.109 ACRES, THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED UPON -- THE WATER WASTEWATER WILL BE PROVIDED BY THE CITY. IT IS PURSUANT TO THE TEXAS CODE AND THE CURRENT DEVELOPMENT THAT HAYS COUNTY HAS HAD FORWARD.

THE APPLICATION HAS NO REQUESTED VARIANCE, DISCUSSION OF POSSIBL% ACTION FOR THE FINAL DETERMINATION AND FOLLOWING THE POSTING OF PHYSICAL SURETY UNDER ITEM I-5, THE STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL FOR WATERSTONE UNIT PLAT.

>> THANK YOU. >> PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

[J.7. Discussion and possible action to approve the naming of a private driveway in Precinct 3, Sites Ranch Road. HAMMER/BERLAD]

>> SUBMIT. >> SECOND.

[K.2. Discussion and possible action to adopt a post-employment (revolving door) policy prohibiting County Commissioners Court members and Department Heads from working for or contracting with any vendor doing business with Hays County for five (5) years after separation; provided that this policy applies only to future separations and is not retroactive. BECERRA]

>> PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

[K.4. Discussion and possible action to regrade the vacant Transportation Planner position grade 120, slot 1166-003, to a Senior Planner grade 122. INGALSBE/A.JONES]

>> YES, LET'S MOVE THROUGH K. >> K FOR PEER DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION TO REGRADE THE VACANT TRANSPORTATION PLANNER POSITION, GRADE 120, SLOT 1166-003 TO A SENIOR PLANNR

GRADE 122. >> SUBMIT.

>> SECOND. >> A LOT OF PLANNING.

WHAT ARE YOU PLANNING? [LAUGHTER] GOOD ON POSITIONS. GOOD JOB.

YOU ALREADY KNOW YOU HAVE OUR FULL SUPPORT.

>> YES, THIS ITEM -- AND I WORKED WITH AARON ON IT, IT IS ONE OF OUR CURRENT POSITIONS THAT WAS AS A PLANNER BUT FOR A FEW YEARS, WE HAVE CALLED IT A SENIOR PLANNER FOR SOME REASON, IT GOT MISSED IN THE REGRADE YEARS AGO.

SO WE ARE WORKING THROUGH THAT. >> GOOD JOB.

PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

[K.6. Discussion and possible action to authorize the Commissioner, Precinct 1, to execute a Temporary Funding Agreement between Hays County and the Indigenous Cultures Institute ("ICI") related to due diligence activities for a proposed center for the Indigenous Cultures Institute, utilizing 2020 Parks Bond funds in the amount of approximately $144,982.65 and amend the budget accordingly. INGALSBE/FLOCKE]

>> K6. WE DO HAVE ONE PUBLIC COMMENT AS WELL. DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION TO AUTHORIZE THE COMMISSIONER OF PRECINCT 1 TO EXECUTE A TEMPORARY FUNDING AGREEMENT BETWEEN HAYS COUNTY AND THE INDIGENOUS CULTURES INSTITUTE RELATED TO DUE DILIGENCE ACTIVITIES FOR A PROPOSED CENTER FOR THE INDIGENOUS CULTURES INSTITUTE, UTILIZING 2020 PARKS BOND FUNDS IN THE AMOUNT OF APPROXIMATELY $144,982.65 AND AMEND THE BUDGET ACCORDINGLY.

>> SUBMIT. >> SECOND.

>> LET'S READ THE COMMENT. >> STEVE MCCREARY.

AS A RESIDENT OF NORTHERN HAYS COUNTY, AND BEING CONFRONTED BY THE FORMER LL BRANCH SUB DIVISION BRINGING 2400 HOMES ON OUR R12 BETWEEN DRIPPING SPRINGS.

AS OF YET, I HAVE NO IDEA WHERE THE WATER --

[06:00:06]

>> IS THAT ONE AGENDA ITEM? >> THEY MISLABELED IT.

IS THAT WHEN WE HAVE ALREADY OPEN?

>> THIS IS AGENDA ITEM K6. >> LET'S BE RESPECTFUL AND KEEP

READING IT. >> AS OF YET, I HAVE NO IDEA WHERE THE WATER WILL COME FROM OR WHERE THE ITEM NUMBER K6, 3:30 TWO COMMISSIONERS COURT. PLEASE VOTE NO.

>> THANK YOU. >> STATE YOUR NAME AND TITLE.

>> DIRECTOR OF PARKS AND NATURAL RESOURCES.

THIS IS IN REGARDS TO THE INDIGENOUS CULTURES CENTER WITH THE INDIGENOUS CULTURES INSTITUTE WHICH IS TO BE BUILT ON THE GROUND NEXT TO THE MEADOW CENTER AT TEXAS STATE.

THE PARKS SPACE ADVISORY COMMISSION APPROVED -- OR RECOMMENDED $5 MILLION FOR THIS PROJECT IN 2023, THE COURT APPROVED $250,000 INTELLIGENCE FUNDING.

THAT WAS COMPLETELY EXPANDED IN 2024.

IN 2025, THE COURT APPROVED AN AGREEMENT WITH THE INDIGENOUS CULTURES INSTITUTE AT TEXAS STATE.

TEXAS STATE LATER BACKED OUT OF FAT DUE TO SOME MONEY-RELATED ISSUES AND SO, THERE ARE SOME OUTSTANDING EXPENSES RELATED TO THIS, AND THIS WOULD BE TO AUTHORIZE US TO REIMBURSE THAT AMOUNT ON ELIGIBLE EXPENSES WHILE WE WORK ON A FINAL AGREEMENT WITH THE INDIGENOUS CULTURES INSTITUTE AND

TEXAS STATE. >> THEY DID DO ADDITIONAL DUE DILIGENCE AND ACTIVITY ON THE PROPERTY.

THIS IS AN EXCEPTION TO THE ORIGINAL FUNDING, SO I'M ASKING THE COURT TO CONSIDER AUTHORIZING THE PAYMENT OF THIS

ADDITIONAL WORK THAT THEY DID. >> ANY QUESTIONS?

>> IS THIS -- YOU SAID THEY HAVE ALREADY DONE THE WORK.

DO THEY HAVE A WORK PRODUCT FROM IT THAT WE HAVE SEEN?

>> YES, YEAH. THERE HAS BEEN A NUMBER OF RENDERINGS THAT HAVE COME UP. THEY ARE IN THE DESIGN PHASE.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT LEVEL OF DESIGN THEY ARE IN.

BUT I DO HAVE RENDERINGS THAT I CAN SHARE WITH YOU OF WHAT THEY

ARE LOOKING AT. >> I AM OKAY SUPPORTING IT TODAY BUT IT IS JUST ON A NUMBER OF THESE PROJECTS, WE AGREED TO DO THIS, A CERTAIN PERCENTAGE OF COST, AND WHEN WE LOOKED AT WHAT THE OVERALL COMMITMENT WAS, WE THOUGHT $250,000 WOULD BE ENOUGH. I GET THAT.

THINGS HAVE GONE UP, I UNDERSTAND THAT.

BUT AT SOME POINT, I THINK WE JUST NEED TO SAY, LOOK, AS FAR AS COSTS, 10% IS THE CAP, OR WE NEED TO ARRIVE AT A NUMBER FOR THAT AND EXPLORE THAT WITH ALL OF THESE PROJECTS FOR OUR PARTNERS. I THINK MOST OF THEM, MOST OF THEIR SOFT COSTS ON THESE PROJECTS, THEY MAY NOT HAVE THE ABILITY TO. BUT IF WE ARE GOING TO DO IT, I LIKE THE FACT THAT WE HAVE THE REIMBURSEMENT SIDE.

IT IS NOT PAYING FOR IT UPFRONT, IT IS REIMBURSEMENT.

BUT I THINK WE DO NEED TO SEE THE WORK PRODUCT TO ENSURE THAT

IT IS BEING DONE. >> I UNDERSTAND.

I THINK THEY ARE AWARE NOW THAT -- THIS WAS KIND OF THE

EXCEPTION. >> CORRECT.

WITH THE LANGUAGE IN THIS AGREEMENT, IT IS VERY CLEAR THAT THIS IS AN EXCEPTION HERE, AND WE NEED TO SEE A FINAL AGREEMENT FOR THE REST OF THAT TO BE RELEASED.

>> PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

[K.8. Discussion and possible action to authorize the Juvenile Detection Center to replace the AC unit located in the gym, totaling $17,012.69, and amend the budget accordingly. INGALSBE/WARE/HUNT]

>> K8 PEER DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO AUTHORIZE THE JUVENILE DETENTION CENTER TO REPLACE THE AC UNIT LOCATED IN THE GYM, TOTALING $17,012.69 AND AMEND THE BUDGET ACCORDINGLY.

>> I THOUGHT SWEATING IT OUT WAS A GOOD THING.

NOW THEY WANT TO BE COOL. [LAUGHTER]

OH, MY GOODNESS. >> IT IS JUST BROKEN AND NEEDS TO BE REPLACED. IT IS NOT REPAIRABLE.

>> WHAT IS IT, THE 10-TON? EXPENSIVE.

PLEASE HOLD. I LOVE IT.

THE BACKGROUND MUSIC. >> DID YOU --

>> FROM THE BUDGET OFFICE, IT IS 10-TON BASED ON THE BUDGET.

>> PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

[K.9. Discussion and possible action to authorize the Constable Precinct 3 Office to lease a 2026 Chevy Silverado ($935.48 monthly), and upfit the vehicle with the needed equipment ($15,807.36) and amend the budget accordingly. HAMMER/MONTAGUE/HUNT]

[06:05:03]

AMEND THE BUDGET ACCORDINGLY. >> A LONG TIME COMING, I WOULD SAY. WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS FOR HOW LONG? A YEAR.

>> WHY SO LONG? >> WE BROUGHT IT TO

>> WE GOT ONE APPROVED AND HAVE BEEN GOING BACK AND FORTH AND WE HAVE ANOTHER VEHICLE THAT HAS BEEN EXPERIENCING A LOT OF MECHANICAL ISSUES AND IT! PYRES IN AUGUST SO WE ARE TRYING

TO GET THIS ONE IN. >> COOL.

>> PURCHASING AGENT, SO WE BROUGHT IT LAST YEAR, CONSTABLE REQUESTED TWO VEHICLE, ONE THE COURT DID APPROVE FOR THEM TO REPLACE LAST YEAR. THIS ONE, LIKE SHE SAID WE ARE CURRENTLY HAVE A LEASED VEHICLE AND IT HAS HAD A LOT OF SERVICE ISSUES. IT'S BEEN IN AND OUT OF THE SHOP, SO IT WAS BROKEN AT THE TIME BUT WE STILL NEEDED IN GET IT FIXED BECAUSE IT IS A LEASED VEHICLE SO WE GO HAVE TO TURN IT BACK IN. WE HAVE BEEN WAITING ON IT TO GET FIXED. THIS WILL REPLACE THE UNIT.

>> OK. >> JUDGE MAY I ASK THE QUESTION.

IT IS RELATED BUT UNRELATED ALSO.

DO WE BILL GOOD ABOUT THE LEASE PROGRAM WE ARE IN? THE REASON I ASK IS BECAUSE GUADELOUPE COUNTRY ASKED THE QUESTION CAN. I TOLD THEM I WASN'T AWARE OF ANY THING THAT IT WAS NEGATIVE ABOUT IT SO I JUST WANTED TO ASK THE QUESTION IN COURT TO SEE STEPHANIE, HAS THERE BEEN ANY

ISSUE OR CONCERNS? >> WHEN WE STARTED THE LEASE PROGRAM WE DID START WITH ENTERPRISE AND WE HAVE SHIFTED OVER D.M.N. LEASING AND THAT IS BECAUSE OF THEY WERE GIVING US BETTER PRICE THAN ENTERPRISE WOULD MEET AND JUST THE CUSTOMER SERVICE LEVEL ALONE WE HAVE A DEDICATED CUSTOMER SERVICE REP, WHO I COMMUNICATE WITH THEM ON A WEEKLY BASIS REGARDING OUR VEHICLES, THE STATUS, WHERE THEY ARE AT AND BEFORE WE DID NOT HAVE THAT WITHIN ENTERPRISE AND WE DID HAVE SOME ISSUES WITH VEHICLES BEING RELEASED TO THE OUTFITTER AND IN THE NOTIFYING US SO THEY WERE NOT PUT ON OUR INSURANCE.

AND THEN THE HAIL DAMAGE AND STUFF LIKE THAT.

WE WERE NOT ABLE TO COVER THO UNDER THE INSURANCE FOR NEW.

THE PROGRAM IS THEY ARE STAY UNDER D.M.N. LEADING'S OWNERSHIP UNTIL THEY GET OUTFITTED AND WE PICK THEM UP.

>> OK. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. PLEASE CALL THE ROLE.

[K.10. Discussion and possible action to authorize the execution of Change Order #3 with Dunaway Associates, LLC pursuant to the Professional Services Agreement for Sentinel Peak Park Project. HAMMER/FLOCKE/HUNT]

FOR SENTINEL PEAK PARK PROJECT. >> SO MOVED.

>> SECONDED. >> IN IS JUST TAKING $45 AND --

>> PLEASE CALL THE ROLE.

[K.11. Discussion and possible action to authorize the execution of a proposal (2026-Agreement-1) between Hays County and Pape Dawson for a Land Management and Monitoring Plan for Sentinel Peak Preserve not to exceed $8,500.00. HAMMER/FLOCKE]

>> SO MOVE. >> SECONDED.

>> WE WATCHED WITH THE SPECIAL BIRDS.

NOW WE ARE MAKING A PLAN FOR THE SPECIAL BIRDS.

SO IN A REQUIREMENT OF OUR HABITAT CONSERVATION PLANKS THREE QUOTES OBTAINED. THIS IS THE LOWEST.

>> I HAVE A SHOTGUN TWELVE GAUGE.

JUST KIDDING! >> OOH, MY GOSH.

>> PART OF PLAN IS WE FEED A PLAN FOR THE NOT SPECIAL BIRDS, TOO. MAYBE THAT WILL BE PART.

>> MAYBE NOT SO SPECIAL BIRDS. >> VERY, VERY SPECIAL BIRDS.

>> I WOULD GET -- PEOPLE KNOW I'M JOKING.

GOOD JOB. THANK YOU CALL THE ROLE.

[K.15. Discussion and possible action to authorize the submission of the St. David's We All Benefit 2.0: Building Economic Stability grant program in the amount of $600,000.00. INGALSBE/COHEN/BOUTTE/GONZALES]

>> K-15. DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION TO AUTHORIZE THE SUBMISSION OF THE ST. DAVID'S WE ALL BENEFIT 2.0 BUILDING ECONOMIC STABILITY GRANT PROGRAM IN THE AMOUNT OF

$600,000. >> SO MOVED IN

>> SECOND. >> WELL THERE.

ANYTHING ELSE TO ADD? >> GOOD AFTERNOON.

MY TIME IS DELAYED RIGHT NOW. THIS GRANT APPLICATION IS FOR

[06:10:06]

THE GRANT WOULD CREATE TWO POSITIONS THAT CAN GRAND FUNDED, ONE FOR A MANAGER POSITION AND ONE FOR A STAFF POSITION FOR CASE MANAGEMENT. WE KNOW ONCE SOMEBODY COMPLAINS IS THERE IS NO RESOURCE INVESTIGATION EXIST BETWEEN HAYES COUNTY. WE EXPERIENCED THIS DURING COVID WITH THE EMERGENCY RENTAL ASSISTANCE.

WE ARE OPENING THIS GRANT WILL SORT OF BE A PILOT PROGRAM FOR SOCIAL SERVICES TO SEE HOW WE CAN BENEFIT FROM IT BY BEING IN ONE RESORT HUB.

>> WHAT HAPPENS IF WE GET THE GRANT, WE ACCEPT IT.

BUT THEN THE GRANT GOES AWAY, WHAT HAPPENS THEN.

>> SO WE HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH THE BUDGET OFFICE AND H.R. SO WENEVER POSITIONS ARE POSTED WITH A GRANT, IF THE COUNTY DECIDES NOT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT GRANT, THE EMPLOYEES KNOW THAT IT WAS CONDITIONAL BASED ON THE CONTINUING FUNDING OF THE

GRANT REWARDS. >> OK, THANK YOU.

>> NOT ON THE HOOK. GOOD MOVE.

ANYTHING ELSE. >> PLEASE CALL THE ROLE.

>> GOING BACK TO K-14. >> IT WAS PULLED.

>> SORRY IT WAS PULLED? >> 14 WAS PULLED.

>> YEAH, IT IS ON THE SHEET. >> WE ASKED IT TO BE PULLED I

[K.16. Discussion and possible action to authorize the execution of a subrecipient agreement between Hays County and Hill Country MHDD related to the Substance Abuse and Mental Health Administration, Assisted Outpatient Treatment grant program. COHEN/BROWN]

THINK. >> YEAH.

WE DON'T HAVE THAT. I WILL UPDATE MY NOTES.

K-16, AUTHORIZE THE EXECUTION OF THE SUB RECIPIENT AGREEMENT BETWEEN HAYS COUNTY AND HILL COUNTRY M.H.D.T. RELATED TO SUBSTANCE ABUSE AND MENTAL HEALTH ADMINISTRATION ACIVILSED OUT PATIENT TREATMENT GRANT PROGRAM.

>> SO MOVED. .

>> SECONDED. >> PLEASE CALL THE ROLE.

>> JUST ONE COMMENT. JUST ADD THIS CONVERSATION WITH COMMISSIONER COHEN AND CONVERSATION WITH MATTHEW.

AS WE ARE LOOKING AT THESE THINGS AND THE WORK WE DO WITH M.T.D.D. I THINK THAT IN THE FUTURE, AS WE GO THROUGH THE BUDGET PROCESS, THESE ARE ALL ESPECIALLY FOR THE SPECIALTY COURT, I REALLY THINK WE NEED TO LOOK AT HOW WE STRUCTURE OUR BEHAVIOUR COORDINATOR IN THE HIM DOCUMENT BECAUSE WE NEED TO HAVE A BETTER VIEW OF WHAT ALL OF THESE DIFFERENT INDIVIDUAL CONTRACTS THAT THE COUNTY IS IN, WE DON'T -- I DON'T THINK THERE IS ONE POINT OF CONTACT THAT UNDERSTANDS WHAT EACH OF OUR AGREEMENTS HAVE IN THEM. WHAT BENEFITS AND SERVICES THAT -- THAN WAS REALLY AT THE ONSET, WHAT I REALLY SAW ALL THAT.

WE GET THE ONE-OFFS FROM THE SPECIALTY COURT WHICH COULD BE COURT COORDINATED FOR AND THERE IS NO ONE IN THE ROLE.

>> MATTHEW GONZALEZ, HAYS COUNTY.

COMMISSIONER SMITH, YES, AS A PERSPECTIVE, I THINK SOMETHING THAT IS AN EXAMPLE IS THE APPLICANT SHOOTING FOR THE GRANT WE JUST SUBMITTED SCOTT SAID, HEY, THE MENTAL HEALTH COURT UTILIZES A SOCIAL SERVICE CONTRACTOR.

WE DIDN'T HAVE ONE PERSON OVERLOOKING EVERYTHING THAT GOES TO SOCIAL SERVICES OR BEHAVOURIAL HEALTH SO WHAT YOU ARE ASKING IS THAT COULD BE DONE THROUGH THE COORDINATOR.

>> YEAH. >> SUPPORTED.

[K.17. Discussion and possible action to approve renovations and repairs to the Hays County Sportsplex located at 2880 Goforth Road, Kyle, Texas in the amount of $1,261,825.92 and amend the budget accordingly. INGALSBE/CRUMLEY/FLOCKE]

>> SO MOVED. >> SECONDED.

>> WOW. >> PARK FUN.

>> GOOD AFTERNOON. DIRECTOR OF FACILITY AND RESOURCE MANAGEMENT. COMMISSIONER, PROJECT IN YOUR PRESTINT, THAT WE HAVE BEEN WORKING ON TO GET THE FALL PARK READY FOR OPERATION. SO WE HAVE -- MADE A FEW IMPROVEMENTS TO THE BALLPARKS AND THESE ARE ADDITIONAL IMPROVEMENTS WE ARE LOOKING TO MAKE TO FIELD NUMBER ONE, FOUR AND TO THE SEPTIC SYSTEM OUT THERE.

[06:15:01]

WE HAD AN INCREASE OF 33,497 DUE TO SOME PERMITTING FEES AND BOND FEES THAT STEPHANIE HAS BEEN WORKING WITH THE CONTRACTOR ON.

SO THE NEW AMOUNT FOR FIELD ONE IS $784, 00 AND FIELD FOUR, 507,257.19. THE ACCEPT TICK AMOUNT REMAINS

THE SAME. >> WHAT ARE THEY DOING FOR 78

WILL,000 TO THE FIELD? >> --784,000 TO THE FIELD?

>> EVERYTHING. >> PLASTIC.

>> GRASS? >> YES.

>> THERE WILL BE GRASS IN THE OUT FIELD SO IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE -- IT'S THE INFIELD IS TURF, AM I RIGHT? WE HAVE HAD SEVERAL DIFFERENT BACK AND FORTHS.

>> DIRECT OVER PARK AND NATURAL RESOURCES.

THE LARGER FIELD FOR $700,000 IS COMPLETELY TURF.

THE SMALLER FIELD, NUMBER FOUR IS A TURF INFIELD WITH AN SOD OR

NATURAL GRASS OUTFIELD. >>

>>

>> THE 7 00,000 SO YOU JUST REFERENCED.

>> WILL INCLUDE TURF IN THE SPACES?

>> TURF WITHIN THE EXTENT OF THE MAIN FIELD, FENCES, BACKSTOPS, DUGOUTS AND THEN ON THE SMALLER FIELD, FOR OVER 400,000 IS TURF ON THE INFIELD, GRASS IN THE OUT FIELD, FENCES, BACKSTOPS AND DUG

OUTS. >> WHAT IS THE SHELF LIFE YOU

ARE PUTTING IN? >> THE IDEA IS TO BE PLEA READY

ON THE FIELDS. >> AMAZING.

I LOVE IT. I JUST GOT TO KNOW.

>> JUDGE WE HAVE BEEN WORKING ON THIS FOR SUCH A LONG TIME.

AND YOU KNOW WE WANT TO GET THE FIELDS READY IN PREPARATION FOR THE PROPOSAL THAT IS GOING TO GO OUT FOR THE OPERATION OF THE SP SPORTS PLEX AND SO YEAH, I JUST -- IT IS AN AREA THAT NEEDS IT BADLY AND HOPE THAT THE COURT WILL EXPORT THE EXPENDITURES. THE MAJORITY OF THE MONEY IS COMING FROM THE BOND AND I GUESS SCOTT IF YOU WANT TO GIVE THE DIFFERENCE IS COMING FROM MISCELLANEOUS CAPITAL

IMPROVEMENTS. >> IN TALKING WITH THE AUTHOR'S OFFICE WE DECIDED THAT IT WOULD BE BEST TO UTILIZE THE BOND FUNDS SO WE WILL UTILIZE THE BOND FUNDS TO SAVED ON MY POTENTIAL CLAW BACK IS THAT COULD HAPPEN, THAT WAY WE ARE NOT ACCRUING THAT ADDITIONAL INTEREST.

>> GOOD. I AGREE.

SO WHAT IS THE SHELF LIFE ON THE TURF?

>> REMAINS MAINTAINED, WE DON'T HAVE -- I DON'T THINK THE QUOTE GIVES US A SHELF LIFE. I WOULD IMAGINE IF IT IS WELL MAINTAINED WE COULD GET -- IS THERE A WARRANTY?

>> BUT NOT A SHELF LIFE. >> USING IT INTERCHANGEABLY.

>> YEAH. I LOVE IT.

WE ARE MISSING THE HORN. I'M A FAN OF TURF.

I REALLY AM. MY ENTIRE BACKYARD IS TURF.

I LOVE IT. THEREIN ITHERE -- THERE IS A CHEAP TURF AND QUALITY TURF. I DON'T WANT THE 1970S, THAT TURNS INTO GREEN LAYING DOWN. WE DESERVE FOR THE PRICE THE

PROPER TURF. >> YEAH.

>> WE WILL CHECK ON THAT. >> I DON'T SEE THE WARRANTY ON

THIS. >> THIS COMPANY, WHILE WE ARE WAITING ON THE -- HAS DONE WORK FOR NUMEROUS SCHOOLS, HIGH SCHOOLS AND UNIVERSITIES, TEXAS STATE UNIVERSITY BEING ONE OF

THEM. >> WHAT IS THE NAME OF THE

COMPANY? >> IT IS CALLED FIELDER'S CHOICE

SPORTS PROTECTION. >> FIELDER'S CHOICE.

OK. >> WHENEVER YOU COME ACROSS IT

JUST BRING IT UP LATER. >> THAT WOULD BE NICE TO KNOW.

>> I THINK IT IS IN THEIR CONTRACT.

[06:20:03]

I WILL PULL THAT INFORMATION. >> I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW.

I WILL GET ASKED AS I BRAG ABOUT IT.

>> NE >> ANYTHING ELSE?

>> I WOULD LIKE TO ADD THEIR WORK COST SAVING BY USING THE TURF, OTHERWISE WE WOULD HAVE HAD TO UNSTALL A WATER LINE.

THERE IS ANOTHER ADVANTAGE TO THE TURF.

>> PERFECT. ABSOLUTELY.

YOU WILL HAVE NOTHING TO WATER AND WHEN IT RAINS LIKE A HUGE FRENCH DRAIN. WON'T FLOOD IT AND IN MOMENTS READY TO USE AGAIN. IT'S THE COOLEST THING ON THE

PLANET. >> WE DON'T HAVE THE SUFFICIENT WATER LINE AND JUST WATERING IT WOULD BE AN ISSUE.

REQ >> EXACTLY, THIS IS MAGNIFICENT.

WHEN YOU GET AT THIS, STEPHANIE I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR IT'S.

PLEASE CALL THE ROLE.

[K.19. Discussion and possible action to authorize the execution of an Agreement between Hays County and Rene Bates Auctioners, Inc. pursuant to their Buyboard Contract 708-23; approve the Purchasing Office to hold an online auction to dispose of surplus property pursuant to Texas Local Government Code 263.152 (a)(1 ); authorize the Purchasing Office to advertise; and to properly dispose of items that are placed in the online auction but do not sell. BECERRA/HUNT]

>> SO MOVED. >> SECONDED.

>> PLEASE CALL THE ROLE.

>>

[K.21 . Discussion and possible action to authorize the execution of a Memorandum of Understanding (MOU) between Hays County and the Phillips Cemetery Association for reimbursable lawn and landscaping services with a notto- exceed $1,800.00 quarterly amount, and authorize a waiver of the purchasing policy. SMITH]

>> K-20 HAS BEEN DONE. K-21, EXHIBITION OF MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING BETWEEN HAYS COUNTY AND PHILLIPS CEMETERY ASSOCIATION FOR REIMPURSABLE LAND AND LANDSCAPING SERVICES.

AND AUTHORIZE THE WAIVER OF THE PURCHASING POLICY.

>> SO MOVED. >> COMMISSIONER I CHALLENGE YOU TO CREATE SOME PROGRAM TOP HAVE THEM INSTALL TURF IN THE KEY AREAS AND THAT WILL BRING THE COST DOWN.

>> IT WOULD BE GREAT. EXCEPT IT IS ALL ROCK.

>> THERE IS NO WATER THERE. THEY DON'T HAVE A WATER METER.

>> MOWING ROCKS AND WEEDS. >> IF YOU REMEMBER LAST YEAR WHEN WE DID THE GENERAL SOLICITATION FOR THE CEMETERY PROGRAM, THEY WERE VERY CONCERNED BECAUSE THE CONTRACTOR AT THE TIME AND EVEN THE NEWER CONTRACTORING TO BECAUSE THE MAJORITY OF IT IS A GRAVEL CEMETERY, AT LEAST WHERE THE GRAVE SITES ARE, THAT THE CONTRACTOR WOULD NOT -- THEY COULDN'T MOE IN THERE AND THEY DIDN'T FEEL COMFORTABLE.

THEY HAD THEIR OWN PERSONAL CONCERNS OVER LIABILITY SHREDDING IN THERE WITH THE WEED EATER.

AND GRAVEL >> SO THE SOLUTION FOR THAT, FOR THE OLD CONTRACTOR WAS SPRAY EVERYTHING.

THAT DID NOT GO OVER VERY WELL. WE CHALLENGED THEM.

WE SAID LOOK IF YOU REMEMBER WHEN WE HAD THE CONVERSATION LAST YEAR, IT WAS OK, WELL, IF YOU WANT TO DO THE SHREDDING YOURSELF, LET'S VOTE NOT TO EXCEED AMOUNT AND LOOK AT KEEPING YOU IN THE PROGRAM. IT IS A MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING NOT TO EXCEED $1800 A QUART PER, WHICH IS WHAT IT WOULD COST TO DO THE MAINTENANCE ON THE CEMETERY.

ANNUALIZED IS $7,200. AND THIS WOULD KEEP THEME IN THE PRO PROGRAM /* IN PERPETUITY.

>> STEPHANIE WE ARE HAPPY TO HEAR YOU.

>> PURCHASING AGENT. >> I HAVE CONCERNS.

COMMISSIONER SMITH SAID THEY WERE VERY PARTICULAR ABOUT WHAT THEY WANTED AND DIDN'T WANT. SOME OF THE INVOICES THEY HAVE SENT TO US THE, THAT THEY SHOWED WHAT MAY HAVE ASKED THE NEW CONTRACTOR TO DO IS ABOVE AND BEYOND WHAT WE HAVE IN OUR CONTRACT NOW. WITH OUR CURRENT CEMETERY MAINTENANCE CONTRACTOR. SO IF THE COURT WISHES TO DO AN M.O.U. WITH THEM TO REIMBURSE THEM FOR THOSE QUARTER LIE SERVICES, IT IS THE WRITTEN IN THE M.O.U. THAT IT IS ONLY STRICTLY FOR WHAT WE CURRENTLY PAY OUR CURRENT CONTRACTOR.

I AM CONCERNED THAT ALLOWING A CEMETERY THAT DOESN'T WANT TO PURR TESS PATE UNDER OUR -- PARTICIPATE UNDER OUR GUIDELINES AND JUST BECAUSE THEY DID NOT WANT THE HERBICIDE, WHICH IS

[06:25:02]

WHICH AGAIN IS YOUR DECISION TO MAKE.

I WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU ARE AWARE THAT -- THERE ARE OTHER CEMETERIES THAT ARE ALREADY ASKING HIM HOW DO WE BECOME PART OF THIS CONTRACT? SO THAT IS MY CONCERN WITH IT.

AND IF WE DO, I JUST WOULD LIKE IT FOR IT TO MIMIC WHAT WE ARE CURRENTLY PROVIDING AND NOT THE ADDITIONAL SERVICES THEY ARE ASKING THIS INDIVIDUAL COMPANY TO DO AND REIMPURSE THEM.

>> I AM SO FGLAD YOU STEPPED UP. >> 100% AGREE.

THAT THEY SHOULD GET NOTHING ELSE.

>> YES. AARON JONES, TRANSPORTATION DIRECTOR. THIS IS A UNIQUE PROCESS BECAUSE IT IS KIND OF TAKES IN A COUPLE OF DEPARTMENTS.

WHERE IT COMES BUDGET WISE FROM TAMMY'S SIDE AND THEN OUR CREWS MANAGE THE ACTUAL CREWS THAT ARE OUT THERE DOING THE WORK AND MAINTAINING -- MAKING SURE THEY ARE DOING WHAT THEY NEED TO DO AND THEN WE SUPPORT IF NEEDED. AND I HAVE THE SAME CONCERNS AS STEPHANIE BECAUSE THIS -- WITH THIS CEMETERY IT WAS -- CEMETERIES ARE A PASSIONATE THING BECAUSE IT IS LOVED ONES THAT ARE THERE. SO THERE WAS SOME INTERACTIONS THERE WITH OUR STAFF THAT WAS CONTRACTOR ON IT. THE PAST - OUR CONCERN WOULD BE IS THAT THIS WOULD OPEN THE DOOR FOR OTHER CEMETERIES THAT WE CURRENTLY ARE MAINTAINING TO ASK FOR THE SAME THING. THIS WHICH COULD BECAUSE THE WAY THAT IT'S LED, STEPHANIE CAN PROBABLY CORRECT, IS THE NUMBER OF ROTATIONS THROUGHOUT THE YEAR.

EACHEL TAPER HAS A FLEXIBILITY DOLLAR AMOUNT PER ROTATION, THERE ARE QUITE A FEW OTHER CEMETERIES OUT THERE THAT ARE HISTORICAL CEMETERIES THAT COULD ASK FOR THE SAME AGREEMENT, THE SAME WE WOULD SAY PRECEDENT. THAT IS WHERE OUR CONCERN -- MINE ON THE BUDGET SIDE WE ARE JUST MANAGING THEM, BUT THAT WOULD BE OUR CONCERN AND I KNOW TALK WITH STEPHANIE AND TAMMY, THATS IS THE CONCERN ON OUR SIDE.

>> THANK YOU. AND DO YOU NEED TO BRING IT BACK? OR DO WE GIVE YOU THE DIRECTION TO MAKE THEM CONSISTENT IN SERVICES?

>> THE M.O.U. DOES SAY -- >> I LAID IT OUT IN THE M.O.U.

TO MAKE SURE THAT IT IS SPECK -- FOLLOWING THE SAME SERVICES AS OUR CEMETERY MAINTENANCE CONTRACT AND THOSE ARE GOING TO BE THE ONLY SERVICES THAT WE WOULD REIMBURSE THEM FOR.

AND THE REASON WHY IT'S ASKING FOR A WAIVER IS BECAUSE WE SHOULD BE LETTING THESE SERVICES, WHICH WE DID.

THEY JUST CHOSE NOT TO PARTICIPATE IN THAT ONE BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T LIKE THE WAY WE DID IT.

>> CAN I WILL ADD COLOR TO THIS. I WOULD LOVE FOR AARON AND STEPHANIE TO ADD COLOR BECAUSE THE PREVIOUS CONTRACTS OR ON THIS, THE INTERACTION WITH THAT PREVIOUS CONTRACTOR, I FELT HORRIBLE FOR OUR STAFF. THESE TWO INDIVIDUALS INCLUDED FOR THE WAY THAT CONTRACTOR TREATED THEM.

AND THE WAY THEY TREATED THEM, WAS THE EXACT SAME WAY THEY TREATED THE CEMETERY ASSOCIATION FOLKS.

AND SO THE CEMETERY ASSOCIATION GOT A REALLY BAND BAD TASTE /* /* -- BAD TASTE IN THEIR MOUTH FROM THAT SPECIFIC CONTRACTOR.

THE E-MAILS THEY SAID AND I WILL BE VERY BLUNT, E-MAILS THEY SENT STEPHANIE AND E-MAILS TO AARON AND AARON'S STAFF, I WAS VERY ST DIRECT STATING I WOULD NEVER HAVE ANOTHER INTERACTION WITH THEM BECAUSE OF THE WAY THEY TREATED OUR STAFF. KNOW THEY TREATED THE CEMETERY ASSOCIATION PEOPLE THE SAME WAY AND THAT IS THE REASON THEY FELT COMPELLED TO DO THIS. I WISH THEY HA STAYED UNDER THE OLD CONTRACT BUT I DON'T WANT TO LOSE THEM BECAUSE IT IS NOT ONLY IS IT A HISTORIC CEMETERY BUT IT IS THE ONLY CEMETERY IN DRIPPING

FOR THE PUBLIC. >> SO JUST MAKE SURE, YOU SAID YOU WILL DO. EVERYTHING IS CONSISTENT ON WHAT

WE SUPPORT. >> IF THERE ARE OTHER CEMETERIES THAT WANT -- I JUST WANT SOME DIRECTION FROM THE COURT SO IF THERE ARE OTHER CEMETERIES BECAUSE I KNOW THERE ARE SOME THAT ARE PENDING LIKE GETTING THIS HISTORIC DESIGNATION, AND THEN OBVIOUSLY WE WOULD DO AN AMENDMENT TO THE CONTRACT AND BRING IT BACK AND ADD UNDER THE CURRENT CONTRACT UNLESS WE GET TO THE 25% AND WE DO A NEW ONE. ARE WE GOING TO ALLOW OTHER

[06:30:05]

THAT IS WHY WE ARE HAVING TO DO THE DISCRETIONARY EXEMPTION.

I WANT TO MAKE SURE. >> THAT IS PART OF OURS.

WITH OUR STAFF OUT THERE, THAT IS WHERE WE HEAR FROM OTHER.

I KNOW THERE IS TWO OTHER CEMETERIES THAT HAVE ASKED ABOUT BEING ON THE PROGRAM. ONE OF THEM IS VERY SMALL.

ONE OF THEM IS VERY, VERY LARGE. SETTING A PRECEDENCE THAT WE WOULD GO OUTSIDE OF WHAT WE ARE DOING IN OUR PURCHASING, THAT WOULD BE OUR CONCERN. ON THAT END.