Jan 06, 2026 Regular

[A. CALL TO ORDER]

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>>> I WOULD LIKE TO CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER, I WISH YOU ALL A VERY GOOD MORNING, THIS MORNING'S INVOCATION WILL BE LED BY OUR VERY OWN PASTOR DARIUS TODD. IF YOU WILL ALL

PLEASE RISE. >> LET US BOW, HEAVENLY FATHER GOOD MORNING WE THANK YOU FOR ANOTHER DAY YOU HAVE MADE. THANK YOU FOR NEW BEGINNINGS. A TIME OF REFRESHING AND RESTARTING. WE THANK YOU IN THE NEW BEGINNING THAT YOU ESTABLISH US IN PEACE, WE ASK THAT YOU WOULD COVER US IN MERCY AND LEAD US IN GRACE, AS WE SERVE THE MANY AND HONOR THE FEW, THOSE WHO ARE UNSEEN AND UNHEARD, WE THANK YOU AND ASK YOU WOULD LEAD US IN TRUTH, HELP US TO BE CHAMPIONS OF RIGHTEOUSNESS AND THIS YEAR BE OUR GUIDE AS OUR PRAYER IN THE NAME OF JESUS I PRAY, AMEN.

>> I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD , INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. HONOR THE TEXAS FLAG I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE TEXAS, ONE STATE UNDER GOD, ONE AND INDIVISIBLE.

[E. PUBLIC COMMENTS ]

>> WE HAVE THREE PUBLIC COMMENT FORMS. FIRST WE HAVE , YOU HAVE

THREE MINUTES PLEASE. >> GOOD MORNING MY NAME IS ALEX PRESIDENT OF THE DUNBAR HERITAGE ASSOCIATION FOUNDED IN 1989 BY MY GRANDFATHER. I HAVE COME TO INVITE RESIDENTS OF HAYS COUNTY TO THE 24TH ANNUAL MLK WALK AND CELEBRATION. EVERY YEAR OUR NATION HONORS DR. MARTIN LUTHER KING WHO HAS DREAMED OF EQUALITY AND JUSTICE TO INSPIRE US, THIS YEAR THE KING CENTER THEME IS MISSION POSSIBLE 2 BUILDING COMMUNITY, UNITING A NATION, THE NONVIOLENT WAY WHICH MATCHES THE DUNBAR HERITAGE ASSOCIATION COMMITMENT TO BRINGING PEOPLE TOGETHER AND CELEBRATING DR.

KING'S LEGACY, HERE WE HAVE MADE IT A TRADITION TO REMEMBER DR. KING'S IMPACT, NOT JUST IN OUR COUNTY, BUT HERE AT HOME NOT JUST IN THE COUNTRY BUT HERE AT HOME, DUNBAR HERITAGE ASSOCIATION INVITES EVERYBODY TO JOIN THE 24TH ANNUAL CELEBRATION MARKING DR. KING'S 97TH BIRTHDAY FROM JANUARY 17 TO THE 19TH. THE FESTIVITIES START WITH A SPECIAL KIDS EVENT AT THE SAN MARCS PUBLIC LIBRARY, SATURDAY, JANUARY 17 AND MONDAY, JANUARY 19 WE WILL GATHER AT THE MLK, LBJ CROSSROADS FOR A WREATH LAYING CEREMONY AT 9:30 FOLLOWED BY THE MLK WALK PROGRAM AT THE HAYS COUNTY COURTHOUSE AND RECEPTION AT THE PAUL LAURENCE DUNBAR RECREATION CENTER, THIS HOLIDAY IS A CHANCE FOR US ALL TO REFLECT ON DR. KING'S VISION AND TO KEEP WORKING TOWARD A COMMUNITY WHERE EVERYONE IS TREATED WITH DIGNITY AND RESPECT, LET'S HONOR HIS MEMORY BY COMING TOGETHER, PARTICIPATING IN THESE EVENTS AND CONTINUING THE WORK HE HAS BEGUN. TO LEARN MORE ABOUT HOW YOU CAN PARTICIPATE GO TO OUR WEBSITE TO A SM TX AND CHOOSE THE 2026 MLK DROP-DOWN TAB TO REGISTER YOUR GROUP TO PARTICIPATE IN THE WALK TO SIGN UP AS A PARTICIPANT FOR THE WREATH LAYING CEREMONY, TO REGISTER FOR THE MLK EDUCATIONAL EVENT ON JANUARY 17 WHICH INCLUDES TEENAGERS AND ADULTS AND TO SECURE A ADD IN THE SOUVENIR BOOKLET AND YOU CAN FOLLOW US ON INSTAGRAM.

THANK YOU. >> WELL DONE, THANK YOU FOR ALWAYS BEING A WONDERFUL CONTRIBUTION TO THE COMMUNITY.

HAVE A WONDERFUL DAY. NEXT UP, MEREDITH KELLER.

>> THANK YOU, GOOD MORNING COMMISSIONERS, MY NAME IS MEREDITH KELLER A RESIDENT OF HAYS COUNTY, I WAS A FOUR TERM

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BECAUSE BECERRA HAS THRUST HIMSELF INTO THE VORTEX OF PUBLIC OPINION, HE DOES NOT HAVE THE RIGHT TO CENSOR THOSE WITH WHOM HE DOES NOT AGREE OR PEOPLE HE DOESN'T LIKE OR POLITICAL OPPONENTS. WE ALL NEED TO HOLD OUR SELVES AND OTHERS ACCOUNTABLE IN THE POLITICAL ARENA. BECERRA NEEDS TO BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE. I RESPECTFULLY REQUEST THAT YOU COMMISSIONERS SPEND SOME TIME CONSIDERING WHAT REMEDY OR CONSEQUENCE WOULD BE BEST FOR HIS SELF-SERVING VIOLATION OF THE CONSTITUTION OF THESE UNITED STATES. I WOULD ALSO APPRECIATE GREATLY IF COMMISSIONERS COULD LET ME KNOW HOW YOU PLAN TO ADDRESS HIS ACTIONS AND I DEEPLY THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND CONSIDERATION

OF MY CONCERNS. >> IS OPEN F 1.

[F. 1. Recognition of the Hays County Auditor's Office and County Auditor Marisol Villarreal-Alonzo for receiving the Certificate of Achievement for Excellence in Financial Reporting from the Government Finance Officers Association (GFOA) for the preparation of the County's Annual Comprehensive Financial Report for the fiscal year ended September 30, 2024, and for receiving the Financial Reporting Achievement Award. INGALSBE/VILLARREAL-ALONZO ]

>> RECOGNITION OF THE HAYS COUNTY AUDITOR'S OFFICE AND COUNTY AUDITOR FOR RECEIVING THE CERTIFICATE OF ACHIEVEMENT FOR EXCELLENCE IN FINANCIAL REPORTING FROM THE GOVERNMENT FINANCE OFFICERS ASSOCIATION. FOR THE PREPARATION OF THE COUNTY'S ANNUAL CONFERENCE OF FINANCIAL REPORT AND FOR THE FISCAL YEAR ENDING SEPTEMBER 30, 2024 AND FOR RECEIVING FINANCIAL

REPORTING ACHIEVEMENT AWARD. >> WONDERFUL TO SEE YOU HERE, ALWAYS A PLEASURE TO SEE THIS TAKE PLACE. YOU AND YOUR ENTIRE DEPARTMENT DO SO MUCH WORK FOR THE COUNTY TO KEEP US RIGHT , TO MAKE SURE EVERYTHING WE ARE DOING IS STRAIGHTFORWARD SO

THANK YOU SO MUCH. >> THANK YOU, GOOD MORNING, MARISOL VILLARREAL-ALONZO, HAYS COUNTY AUDITOR PROUD TO ANNOUNCE FOR THE 11TH YEAR IN A ROW THE GF OA HAS AWARDED THE HAYS COUNTY AUDITOR'S OFFICE CERTIFICATE OF ACHIEVEMENT FOR EXCELLENCE IN FINANCIAL REPORTING FOR THE FISCAL YEAR 2024 ANNUAL COMPREHENSIVE FINANCIAL REPORT IN ADDITION THE COUNTY AUDITOR AND STAFF HAVE RECEIVED THE AWARD IN FINANCIAL REPORTING THE CERTIFICATE OF ACHIEVEMENT IS THE HIGHEST FORM OF RECOGNITION IN GOVERNMENT ACCOUNTING AND FINANCIAL REPORTING. THE REPORT WAS REVIEWED BY INDEPENDENT MEMBERS OF THE REVIEW COMMITTEE INCLUDING 206 PAGES OF FINANCIAL REPORTING THAT ADHERES TO THE GOVERNMENTAL ACCOUNTING STANDARDS BOARD STATEMENT WHICH REPRESENT THE GENERALLY ACCEPTED ACCOUNTING PRINCIPLES THAT GOVERN GOVERNMENTS, PREPARATION OF THE STATEMENTS REQUIRES MANY HOURS OF ACCOUNTING AUDITING AND FINANCIAL REPORTING AND I WOULD LIKE TO RECOGNIZE MEMBERS OF MY TEAM WHO WORKED TIRELESSLY TO ENSURE THE FINANCIAL STATEMENTS OF THIS COUNTY MET REQUIREMENTS FOR FULL DISCLOSURE AND WHO ASSISTED WITH IMPLEMENTATION OF THE NEW STATEMENTS FOR THE COUNTY FISCAL YEAR 2024. WE ARE CLOSING FISCAL YEAR 25 EXTERNAL AUDITORS WILL BE HERE IN TWO WEEKS SO WE WILL WORK TO OBTAIN THE SAME ACHIEVEMENT IN FISCAL YEAR 2025, MEMBERS OF THE TEAM

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>> THANK YOU STARTING WITH COMMISSIONERS, COMMISSIONER

INGALSBE. >> I AM SO PROUD OF YOU AND ALL OF YOUR STAFF, YOU KNOW THERE ARE SO MANY FAMILIAR FACES THAT I SEE THAT HAVE BEEN WITH THE COUNTY FOR SUCH A LONG TIME.

HARD WORK AND DEDICATION DOES NOT GO UNNOTICED SO THIS IS A TIME FOR US TO RECOGNIZE YOU AND THANK YOU FOR THE WORK YOU DO AND I REALLY DO APPRECIATE EACH ONE OF YOU.

>> THANK YOU FOR THE HARD WORK YOU ALL PUT IN ALL YEAR, CONGRATULATIONS ON YOUR ACCOMPANIMENTS. I KNOW AUDIT CAN SOUND LIKE A SCARY WORD BUT REALLY IS TO MAKE SURE WE ARE FOLLOWING PROCESS AND DOING BETTER. THAT'S WHAT IT IS ABOUT. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE WORK YOU DO FOR US EVERY DAY.

>> I AM ALWAYS SO IMPRESSED WITH YOUR OFFICE AND EVERYONE WHEN I GO IN THERE WITH HEADS DOWN WORKING COME EFFICIENT THAT'S HOW YOU RUN BUSINESS AND I LOVE TALKING TO YOU AND GETTINGTO KNOW MORE AND DIGGING DEEPER BECAUSE YOU EXPLAIN THINGS SO WELL AND ELOQUENTLY. CONGRATULATIONS TO THE DEPARTMENT AND IT IS A BIG HONOR FOR YOUR.

>> I DON'T KNOW WHAT ELSE I CAN SAY OTHER THAN TO SAY I AM REALLY PROUD OF YOU GUYS. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT HAS IMPRESSED ME WITH YOUR OFFICE AS YOU ALL ARE NOT ONLY A PROFESSIONAL ORGANIZATION BUT YOU ARE GREAT AT DOING TWO THINGS, NUMBER ONE RETENTION OF EMPLOYEES WITH SO MANY LONG-TERM LONG-STANDING EMPLOYEES THAT DO A GREAT JOB, NUMBER TWO YOU HAVE BEEN GOOD BREEDING GROUND FOR DEVELOPING EMPLOYEES FOR US THAT THEY MAY LEAVE YOUR OFFICE BUT THEY ALWAYS SERVE IN OTHER ROLES WHETHER IT IS SCOTT OR VICKI OR ANYBODY ELSE OR STEPHANIE , EVERYBODY , THE COUNTY IN GENERAL HAS BENEFITED FROM YOUR LEADERSHIP AND THE DEVELOPMENT THAT YOU OFFER EMPLOYEES AND I

REALLY APPRECIATE IT. >> I HAVE SAID EVER SINCE I GOT ELECTED SEVEN YEARS AGO I TOOK OFFICE, EIGHT YEARS AGO I WAS ELECTED AND WHEN I STARTED OFF I WAS THE CHIEF BUDGET OFFICER FOR HAYS COUNTY AND YOU AND VICKI ALONE HELPED ME, TAUGHT ME, SHOWED ME SO MUCH, SO MANY PEOPLE DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT LOCAL GOVERNMENT DOES, HOW LOCAL GOVERNMENT MOVES BUT IT IS TO BE IN CHARGE OF TAXPAYER DOLLARS AND YOU SHOWED ME THIS IS THE PROCESS IN AN EMERGENCY THIS IS HOW WE DO THIS, THIS IS HOW WE DO THAT EVEN THOUGH HE IS NOT HERE ANYMORE ONE THAT DESERVES INITIAL GUIDANCE WAS MARK KENNEDY. HE TOLD ME THIS IS WHAT WE CAN DO IN THESE INSTANCES OR THOSE INSTANCES AND NOT A RED CENT OF TAXPAYER DOLLARS GETS MOVED WITHOUT YOUR AUDIT AND THE COURT APPROVAL AND THAT REQUIRES A LOT OF PEOPLE AND A WHOLE SYSTEM THAT I LEARNED BECAUSE IN GREAT PART BECAUSE OF YOU AND YOUR DEPARTMENT SO I WANT TO THANK YOU PUBLICLY YOU HAVE EARNED IT AND IF ANYBODY WONDERS WHAT DOES MARISOL EVEN DO? WE HAD THE CHAT WE HAD A OPPORTUNITY TO SEE WHAT YOU AND YOUR DEPARTMENT DO, FOLLOWING THE PROCESS THAT'S EXACTLY RIGHT WHEN WE FAIL TO FOLLOW THE PROCESSES YOU CALLED IT OUT SO THAT TELLS ME YOU ARE A MAGNIFICENT SAFETY NET, THE ELEGANCE WITH WHICH OUR COUNTY IS SET UP SO LONG BEFORE ANY OF US WERE BORN IS GOOD AND RIGHT WE MAY NOT LIKE IT SOMETIMES BUT IT WORKS AND YOU IN THIS KEY POSITION HAVE SHOWN IT TO WORK WHEN WE FILLED OUR PROCESSES RECENTLY. THANK YOU AND YOUR DEPARTMENT FOR EVERYTHING YOU DO, WE ARE GRATEFUL.

>> CAN WE HAVE A PICTURE PLEASE? >> I THINK YOU MUST.

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>> COMMISSIONER INGALSBE HERE, COMMISSIONER COHEN HERE,

[CONSENT ITEMS ]

BECERRA HERE. >> WE WILL OPEN CONSENT WITH ONE SLATE. THANK YOU. ANY ITEMS FOR DISCUSSION?

>> WE HAVE GOT A NUMBER OF REAPPOINTMENTS TODAY SPECIFICALLY AT LEAST FOR MY PRECINCT ITEMS 15 THROUGH 18 PARDON ME 15 THROUGH 19. FOR VARIOUS EMERGENCY SERVICE DISTRICTS AND THE DRIPPING SPRINGS TAX REINVESTMENT ZONE. I WANT TO THANK EACH ONE OF THE FOLKS WHO VOLUNTEER THEIR TIME HERE IN THE COUNTY TO SPEND AND SERVE ON THOSE BOARDS ON BEHALF OF THE COUNTY AND I APPRECIATE THEIR SERVICES.

>> WELL SAID. WELL SAID. >> ALL RIGHT. 32 I HAD A CALL IN. WE WILL MAKE THE MOTION AND THE SECOND COMMENTS? WE WILL SAY ON 32 I WANT TO ASK CANDACE THIS IS A NOTE ON 32. IT IS CLEAR WE WERE NOT USING BEST PRACTICES IN THE PAST FOR OUR PROCUREMENT PROCESS AND WE WERE LUCKY AS OUR DEPARTMENT STEPPED UP AND COVERED IT AND WE CAUGHT IT AND FIXED IT, BUT THIS IS AN ITEM WHERE THE LEDGE IS GIVING US A NUDGE TO SAY DO GOOD OR BETTER SO I WANT TO SEE IF YOU CAN TAKE THE LEAD ON THIS AND SEE HOW WE CAN LEARN FROM PREVIOUS MISTAKES AND SEE THAT WE ARE JUST DOING OUR BEST PRACTICES IN THE GENERAL EXHIBITION OF SPACE TO GIVE IT ANOTHER ONCE OVER WITH FRESH EYES THAT YOU PRESENT.

>> YES I WILL WORK WITH ERIN AND STEPHANIE TO REVIEW THOSE

PROCESSES. >> BEAUTIFUL, THANK YOU PLEASE

CALL THE ROLL. >> COMMISSIONER INGALSBE YES, COMMISSIONER SMITH YES, COMMISSIONER COHEN YES, COMMISSIONER HAMMER YES, JUDGE BECERRA YES.

>> PLEASE OPEN K 2. >> DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO AUTHORIZE LAW ENFORCEMENT EQUIPMENT FOR CONSTABLE PRECINCT 1 OFFICE RELATED TO THE NEW DEPUTY CONSTABLE APPROVED IN THE FY 26 BUDGET TO BE EFFECTIVE APRIL 1, 2026 AND AMEND BUDGET ACCORDINGLY.

>> SECOND. >> AND WE HAVE THE CONSTABLE IF ANYBODY HAS QUESTIONS. PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD.

>> IT IS, JUDGE HE WAS AWARDED A NEW DEPUTY EFFECTIVE APRIL 1, WITH NO EQUIPMENT ISSUED THIS AUTHORIZES PURCHASE OF THE

EQUIPMENT. >> WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO WITH A BRAND-NEW FRESH SEAL ON YOU AS WE PROVIDE THE ELECTED OFFICIALS POSITIONS THEY'VE SO PERFECTLY DESERVE I WOULD LIKE TO SEE

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YOU? >> THANK YOU JUDGE AND COMMISSIONERS I WANT TO THANK SCOTT WOODLAND FOR WORKING WITH ME ON THIS AND OF COURSE MY COMMISSIONER AND ALSO CANDACE.

LAW ENFORCEMENT EQUIPMENT IS SO IMPORTANT AS EACH AND EVERY ONE

OF YOU YOU KNOW, THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU.

>> I WANT TO MAKE NOTE THERE WAS NOTES ON THE PURCHASING PIECE THAT SOME OF THE QUOTES WHERE MONEY WAS OUTLINED OR NOT RECEIVED, THOSE QUOTES , WE'RE DOING A BLANKET DOLLAR AMOUNT AND WHEN TO GET THE QUOTES IN THOSE WILL BE REVIEWED AND COMMUNICATED IF ADJUSTMENTS NEED TO BE MADE.

>> PERFECT , THANK YOU SO MUCH PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

>> COMMISSIONER SMITH YES, COMMISSIONER COHEN YES, COMMISSIONER HAMMER YES, COMMISSIONER INGALSBE YES. JUDGE

BECERRA YES. >> THANK YOU CONSTABLE HAVE A WONDERFUL DAY. I SAW OUR SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT'S ELECTIONS AND THEN THE SHERIFF. ELECTIONS AND THE SHERIFF AND TREASURER. WHICH IS? YOU WERE CONSENT THAT'S RIGHT. I AM

[K.6. Discussion and possible action regarding difficulties encountered with GovPay. BECERRA/TENORIO ]

>> DISCUSSION POSSIBLE ACTION REGARDING DIFFICULTIES

ENCOUNTERED WITH . >> SO MOVED AND SECOND.

>> THANK YOU. >> GOOD MORNING JUDGE AND COMMISSIONERS, HAYS COUNTY TREAS. TODAY WE ARE GOING TO TALK ABOUT SOMETHING SUPER EXCITING , CREDIT CARD PROCESSING COMPANIES AND THIRD-PARTY VENDORS, CURRENTLY OUR COUNTY OPERATES WITH TWO BASIC CREDIT CARD COMPANIES, GOVPAY AND CERTIFIED PAYMENTS, THE STANDARD OF COUNTY CREDIT CARD PROCESSING COMPANIES AND THEY ARE USED TO STATEWIDE SO THIS YEAR WE HAVE HAD SOME DIFFICULTIES WITH GOVPAY. BEFORE I GET INTO THIS I WANT TO SET YOU UP WITH SOME BACKGROUND.

ONE, EACH ELECTED OFFICIAL HAS THE RIGHT TO CHOOSE WHICH PROCESSOR THEY WANT TO UTILIZE. TWO THE TREASURER OFFICE DOES NOT CHOOSE THE PROCESS COMPANY. HOWEVER, THE TREASURER OFFICE DOES ACT AS THE INTERMEDIARY BETWEEN THE COUNTY AND THE CREDIT CARD PROCESSING COMPANY. THREE, THE TREASURER'S OFFICE USES THE REPORTING PROVIDED BY THE CREDIT CARD PROCESSORS TO BALANCE THE ELECTED OFFICIAL'S REPORTS AND TO ASSURE ACCURACY AND TO COMPLETE CHECKS AND BALANCES AS REQUIRED. FOUR THE ISSUES WE ARE ABOUT TO DISCUSS ARE HAPPENING IN EVERY COUNTY IN TEXAS USING GOVPAY. WE ARE NOT IMMUNE. FIVE, DON'T WORRY WE HAVE SOME SOLUTIONS. OCTOBER 28 IS WHERE THE STORY BEGINS WITH GOVPAY, A SYSTEM MOST JPS YEARS AND TAX OFFICE, REPORTS BEGAN COMING INTO THE TREASURER'S OFFICE NOTING THAT REFUNDS WERE NOT WORKING AND WERE NOT BEING PROCESSED. WE WERE ALSO NOTIFIED BY CLIENTS AND TAXPAYERS THAT THEY WERE SEEING DOUBLE AND SOMETIMES TRIPLE CHARGES ON THEIR ACCOUNTS . AT THE TIME I ASKED ALL OFFICES TO STOP UTILIZING GOVPAY AS WE WAITED TO HEAR BACK FROM GOVPAY REPRESENTATIVES, INITIALLY I HAD BEEN TOLD THEY WERE HACKED. THE END OF OCTOBER IS THE BEGINNING OF THE BUSIEST TAX COLLECTION TIME. I DID ALLOW TO BE REINSTATED ONCE WE RECEIVED VERIFICATION THAT THIS SITUATION HAD BEEN CORRECTED. NOVEMBER 10 AND 12TH REFUNDS WERE NOT WORKING, THE THIRD-PARTY PROCESSING VENDOR REALIZED THEY HAD DUPLICATE PAYMENTS , THEY DID NOT INFORM US, THEY DID NOT INFORM GOVPAY THEY HAD RANDOMLY CHOSEN PEOPLE THAT THEY WERE GOING TO REFUND THE PAYMENTS TO, AT THE SAME TIME WE ARE DOING OUR DUE DILIGENCE AND REFUNDING THE MONEY ACCORDING TO WHAT WE DO, OUR STANDARD OPERATING PROCEDURES. THIS LED FOR SEVERAL PEOPLE TO RECEIVE DOUBLE REFUNDS SO WE HAVE CLEARED THAT UP. ON DECEMBER 2 AND DECEMBER 3 TRANSACTIONS WERE FORCED INTO CAPTURE MODE SO WHEN USING THE CREDIT CARD YOU HAVE A $100 BALANCE AND YOU SWIPE THE CARD, THE NUMBER GOES 95 SO THE FIVE DOLLARS IS HELD IN CAPTURE MODE. THE CAR COMPANIES HAVE THREE THE CAR COMPANIES HAVE 3 TO 7 DAYS TO TAKE FROM CAPTURED INTO SETTLEMENT MODE AND ON DECEMBER 12 WE WERE NOTIFIED BY GOVPAY

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>> DON'T LEAVE YET, COMMISSIONERS WITH QUESTIONS OR

COMMENTS? >> A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS. YOU SAID THAT INITIALLY YOU WERE ABLE TO VERIFY THE CORRECTIONS THAT WERE DONE IN LATE NOVEMBER HOW DID YOUR OFFICE VERIFY THE

CORRECTIONS WERE HANDLED? >> WE VERIFIED CONVERSATIONS WERE GOVPAY, AT THE TIME THEY WERE WORKING WITH US AND WE WERE ABLE TO RECONCILE WITH PRINTED REPORTING SO WE WERE ABLE TO VERIFY THOSE WERE TAKEN CARE OF HOWEVER WE ARE STILL WORKING ON THE DECEMBER PAYMENTS REFUNDED IN ERROR AND THAT IS WHERE MY

BIGGEST CONCERN IS RIGHT NOW. >> OKAY. AND I GUESS MY SECOND QUESTION IS I AM AWARE OF COUNTIES THAT HAVE COUNTYWIDE CONTRACTS. FOR ALL SO I DON'T NECESSARILY AGREE THAT YOU CANNOT TELL AN OFFICE WHAT TO DO IF WE AS A COURT DECIDE WE WERE TO COUNTYWIDE CONTRACT FOR ONE OF THESE SERVICES THEN WE CAN DO

THAT. >> I CANNOT BUT YOU CAN.

>> WE CAN SAY WE SHOULD GO OUT FOR BID ON THIS AND DO A UNIFIED CONTRACT WHICH I THINK WOULD BE THE BEST COURSE OF ACTION IN THE FUTURE. THE ONLY OTHER THING I WOULD SAY IS WHILE I APPRECIATE YOUR REACHED OUT AND ASKED THEM TO PRODUCE A LETTER OUR CITIZENRY IS NOT GOING TO RESPOND NONE OF OUR CONSTITUENTS WILL RESPOND TO A LETTER FROM A THIRD-PARTY VENDOR SAYING THEY MADE A MISTAKE ON BEHALF OF THE COUNTY IF LETTERS GO OUT RELATIVE TO THIS THEY SHOULD GO OUT FROM THE OFFICE AND COME FROM HAYS COUNTY ON HAYS COUNTY LETTERHEAD FOR THEM TO UNDERSTAND IT IS AN ISSUE WE ARE DEALING WITH, WITH ONE OF THE VENDORS AND EXPLAIN THE INDIVIDUAL PROBLEM OTHERWISE I AGREE WITH YOU WHAT YOU HAVE SEEN FROM CITIZENS ALREADY IS

GETTING WORSE. >> MY LETTER IS READY TO GO I AM WAITING FOR THE LETTER SUPPORTING DOCUMENTATION FOR THESE FOR OUR CITIZENS SO MY LETTER IS READY.

>> BEAUTIFUL, THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU FOR EXPLAINING

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RECTIFIED? >> I CANNOT GET THEM TO RESPOND SO IF I DON'T HEAR IN THE NEXT WEEK I WILL WORK WITH THE DAS

OFFICE TO DRAFT A LETTER. >> HOW LONG WHEN WAS THE FIRST?

>> NOTIFIED ON DECEMBER 12 AND REACHING OUT SINCE 12 DECEMBER.

THAT IS WHY WHEN THEY STARTED TO CALL ME I TOLD THEVERBAL COMMUN WANTED IN WRITING AND I WANT TO KNOW THE DROP DEADLINE FROM THE COMPANY AND I HAVE YET TO HEAR BACK.

>> HAVE YOU SENT THAT TO THEM IN WRITING? I WANT TO MAKE SURE.

>> YES OR. >> GREAT QUESTIONS.

>> I WILL LET YOU KNOW MY OFFICE IS TRAINED AS SOON AS THEY HAD A CONVERSATION WITH A VENDOR THAT THEY RESPOND IN EMAIL SAYING

THIS IS MY UNDERSTANDING. >> BEAUTIFUL.

>> SOME OF THE JPS ARE ASKING FOR INFORMATION THEY HAVE NOT RECEIVED BACK ON YET SO BECAUSE YOU ARE WAITING THAT'S WHY YOU

HAVEN'T RESPONDED TO THEM? >> CORRECT. WE ARE NOT IGNORING ANY OF OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS OR STAFF HERE , WE DON'T HAVE THE INFORMATION TO PROVIDE AND SOMETIMES THE CONVERSATION I GET THE FRUSTRATION BECAUSE WE ARE FEELING THE SAME FRUSTRATION

LEVELS. >> JUDGE, ONE OF THE CONCERNS I HAD WAS THE LETTER FROM A THIRD-PARTY VENDOR BUT YOU WILL TAKE CARE OF THAT SO I'M GOOD WITH THAT AND THE COMMUNICATION IS THE WAY TO GO, YOU HAVE SOMETHING IN WRITING SO I AM

GOOD AND THANK YOU. >> WELL DONE AND WE HAVE A ONE OF OUR BUSY DEPARTMENTS THE TAX ASSESSOR COLLECTOR STANDING BY AND SUPPORTING EVERYTHING YOU HAVE SAID , I WOULD LIKE TO INVITE HER TO THE PODIUM SO SHE CAN BE RECORDED BEING HERE IN SUPPORT OF WHAT THE TREASURER IS DOING STATE YOUR NAME AND TITLE

FOR THE PUBLIC. >> GOOD MORNING COURT MY NAME IS JENNIFER ESCOBAR THE TAX ASSESSOR AND WE HAVE BEEN HAVING THE SAME ISSUES, TALKING ABOUT THE DECEMBER 2 AND THIRD ISSUE OUR TAXPAYERS WERE COMING INTO THE OFFICE TO GET THE PROPERTY TAXES, THEY WOULD RUN CREDIT CARD AND IT DID NOT PROCESS SO NOW WE ARE OUT $42,000 THAT GOVPAY ASKED US TO GET WITH THE TAXPAYERS TO GET THE MONEY BACK. SO ON DECEMBER 12 I REACHED OUT TO ASK FOR GUIDANCE ON WHAT WE SHOULD DO BECAUSE I DON'T THINK IT SHOULD HAVE TO COME OUT OF THE BUDGET IF WE DON'T GET THE MONEY BACK AND IF YOU HAVE REGISTRATION IN HAND AS A TAXPAYER WHY WOULD THEY COME BACK AND PAY AGAIN SO I POSED THE QUESTION AND HE SAID THE MONEY IS IN THEIR BANK, THEY SHOULD REPAY NOW THAT DOES NOT MEAN THEY WILL.

>> I'M GLAD YOU REACHED OUT TO THOSE INDIVIDUALS AND DEPARTMENTS THAT YOU MENTIONED AND KEEP US POSTED.

>> DO WE NOT HAVE STATUTORY AUTHORITY AT THE PAYMENT WAS NOT PROCESSED? CAN WE NOT RUN THE PAYMENT AGAIN?

>> SO, THIS IS TERESA. ASSISTANT TAX ASSESSOR AND COLLECTOR. WE DO HAVE ALL THE PAPERWORK . SO, THEY COME TO TAKE THE MONEY SO THE MONEY WAS RUN THROUGH OUR SYSTEM, THEY SAID YOU HAVE THESE REGISTRATIONS SO THEY JUST PULL IT SO THEN WE ARE STUCK WITH HAVING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO APPROACH THE TAXPAYER TO SAY OKAY BUT GOVPAY THEY SAY IT IS UP TO US THEY ARE NOT TAKING

RESPONSIBILITY. >> WHAT I AM SAYING IS IF THEY PAY VIA CREDIT CARD IN THE TAX OFFICE.

>> I HAVE ASKED WHY CAN YOU RUN THE PAYMENT AGAIN? THERE'S ONLY A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF TIME OR THERE WAS A GLITCH AND SOMETHING COULD NOT RUN THE PAYMENTS IS WHAT THEY TOLD ME.

>> THEY DID NOT GIVE NOTIFICATION IN TIME? THEY

SHOULD BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE. >> I REACHED OUT TO LEGAL AND I ASKED FOR THE CONTRACT, THE CONTRACT WAS FROM 2008 SO IT IS REALLY OLD, I WANT TO KNOW WHAT , CAN WE GET OUR MONEY BACK I HAVE TO PULL LABOR THE BUSIEST TAX TIME THE BUSY SEASON AND WE DON'T REALLY HAVE THE MANPOWER .

>> TO YOUR BENEFIT, AS WELL I CAN TELL YOU THROUGHOUT DECEMBER I PROBABLY HAVE 60 TO 70 PEOPLE IN MY OFFICE AT ANY GIVEN TIME.

UP TO 120 OR 130 ATTEMPTING TO PAY THEIR TAXES AND THOSE DAYS

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>> IN ADDITION TO PEOPLE IN PERSON WE HAVE ONLINE PAYMENTS.

SO THAT HAS BEEN ANOTHER ISSUE, ASIDE FROM THIS ISSUE WE ARE HAVING WHERE PEOPLE ARE TRYING TO MAKE ONLINE PAYMENTS , ESPECIALLY TRYING TO MAKE PAYMENTS, THEY GO IN AND ADJUST SPINS AND SPINS AND COMES UP BLANK SO THEY CALL THE OFFICE UNHAPPY BECAUSE THEY CANNOT PAY TAXES ONLINE SO WE TELL THEM TO CALL GOVPAY AND GOVPAY TELLS THEM TRY AGAIN.

>> LET ME ASK YOUGUYS A QUESTION. WE UNDERSTAND YOUR HANDLING IT MAGNIFICENTLY, HONESTLY DOING A PERFECT JOB. I HAVE THE PRIVILEGE OF HAVING JEFF MCGILL THE I.T. DIRECTOR HERE. ARE WE IN A PLACE , I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE UNDERSTAND AND I WILL GET TO YOU NEXT. ARE WE IN A POSITION WHERE WE CAN TURN GOVPAY OFF WHILE THIS IS GOING ON AND USING ALTERNATE METHOD

DON'T PUT GOOD MONEY AFTER BAD? >> WE CANNOT FLIP THE SWITCH.

>> THAT'S CORRECT, EVERYTHING SAID IS CORRECT. JEFF MCGILL, I.T. DIRECTOR. LISTENING TO THE CONVERSATIONS AND EVERYTHING THEY ARE SAYING IS CORRECT ON THIS. I THINK IT IS PROBABLY REASONABLE TO LOOK FOR A ALTERNATE VENDOR IF THERE IS NO

RESOLUTION WHICH GOVPAY . >> IS THERE TECHNICAL CAPACITY WHICH IS THE SPECIFIC QUESTION ON YOUR END OF THE TECHNICAL CAPACITY. SIMPLIFYING IN MY MIND HERE'S A CREDIT CARD PROCESSING MACHINE THAT YOU WOULD SEE AT A RESTAURANT CAN WE GRAB THIS CREDIT CARD PROCESSING MACHINE AND SAY OFF TO THE SIDE FOR NOW

AND USE THIS OTHER ONE INSTEAD? >> ON THE COUNTER IS FINE BUT

NOT ONLINE. >> THE BEST WE CAN DO IS TAKE THE LINK OFF THE WEBSITE BUT WE DON'T HAVE THE ABILITY --

>> I WOULD SAY UNTIL WE HAVE AN ADDITIONAL PROCUREMENT WE HAVE A STANDING CONTRACT EVEN IF THEY'RE NOT PERFORMING WE HAVE TO ADDRESS THAT. LOOKING AT PROCUREMENT.

>> I WILL GIVE THE OPPORTUNITY FIRST , THE JUDGES STANDING PATIENTLY STATE YOUR NAME AND TITLE FOR THE VIEWING PUBLIC AND THEN MR. HUNT AND THEN MARISOL.

>> I WANT TO GO OVER SOME INFORMATION WE HAVE BEEN HAVING TO DEAL WITH IN OUR OFFICE ACROSS ALL JP OFFICES. THIS HAS BEEN A ONGOING PROBLEM SINCE OCTOBER. WE HAVE HAD THE ISSUE WHERE WE NOTICED DUPLICATE PAYMENTS COMING OUT OF ACCOUNTS , PEOPLE'S ACCOUNTS. SOME OF THE PAYMENTS BECAUSE GOVPAY AND HOW IT IS SETTLED WITH DUPLICATE PAYMENTS TAKEN OUT OF PEOPLE'S ACCOUNTS AND PUT ACCOUNTS IN THE NEGATIVE , WE HAVE NO DOCUMENTATION FROM GOVPAY IN LETTERS TO SAY THIS IS HOW WE WILL HANDLE THE PROCESS. SO WHEN WE HAVE TO CALL COURT ADMINISTRATORS TAKE ON RESPONSIBILITY TO HAVE TO CALL THE INDIVIDUALS AND IN THIS CASE IT WAS OVER $8000 COMING OUT OF MY OFFICE SO 15 OR 25 TRANSACTIONS. WE HAVE TO CALL , THEY HAVE TO CALL INDIVIDUAL COMMUNITY MEMBERS TO SAY YOUR PAYMENT DO NOT GO THROUGH WE NEED YOU TO REPAY THE PAYMENT AND HAVE SPENT THE MONEY AND IT'S AFTER CHRISTMAS AND WE ARE NOTIFIED LATER THE PAYMENT DID NOT GO THROUGH. SPEAKING WITH RICK AT GOVPAY, HE INFORMED ME THAT HE DID NOT NECESSARILY SAY THE HACK WORD BUT THEY WENT TO THE PROCESS OF TRYING TO FIND OUT WHY THE PAYMENTS WERE HAVING ERRORS OR WERE NOT COMPLETED AND SO , SO HE SAID WHEN THEY WENT THROUGH THE COMPUTER SYSTEM , THERE WAS A CHARACTER CHANGED WHICH CAUSED THE WHOLE DISCREPANCY IN GOVPAY. SO WE HAVE BEEN IN COMEDIC IS THE TREASURY DEPARTMENT, BUT WE NEED A LETTER CALLING AN INDIVIDUAL TO SAY HEY WE ARE JP 5, WE NEED YOUR COMMENT PAYMENT BACK AND BY THE WAY WE HAVE TO REVERSE EVERYTHING IN THE SYSTEM AND ON TOP OF THAT WE HAVE TO ALSO REDO ALL THE CONTRACTS FOR THE

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WHEN OTHER ENTITIES ARE HACKED OR THERE IS A DISCREPANCY IN THEIR CREDIT CARDS, THEY SEND A LETTER OUT TO PEOPLE AND LET THEM KNOW THIS HAPPENED AND THEN THERE'S ANOTHER PROCESS WITH THAT THE CREDIT BUREAU WILL NOTIFY EVERYONE BECAUSE THAT IS COURTESY. WE HAVE NOT DONE THAT YET SO WE AS JPS ARE TRYING TO BALANCE THE BUDGET. SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT CAME TO MIND WHICH I EMAILED A COUPLE OF PEOPLE ABOUT WAS AGAIN THIS STARTED OCTOBER 10. HAS DAPHNE HAD SAID THE TREASURER OFFICE TEMPORARILY DEACTIVATED GOVPAY, OUR MAINSTREAM PAYMENT FOR ALL TRANSACTIONS, TICKETS , ANYTHING WE DO. SO TO HAVE TO BE ABLE TO NOT HAVE THE SYSTEM TO USE FOR OUR COMMUNITY MEMBERS TO PAY OR WHOEVER HAS A TICKET OR ANYTHING OF THAT NATURE , THEN THAT IMPACTS EVERY TRANSACTION. IT BECOMES A HUGE PROBLEM SO AGAIN THAT WAS OCTOBER 21 THE EMAIL THAT IT WAS OPERATIONAL, THE TREASURER ACTIVATED GOVPAY, PAYMENTS SETTLED, EIGHT DAYS LATER SO WHILE DAPHNE EXPLAINED WHEN YOU DO A TRANSACTION THROUGH GOVPAY HAVE A THIRD-PARTY VENDOR COLLECTING THE MONEY, AS WELL SO THEY WILL PUT IN A HOLD FOR WHATEVER MONEY THAT IS. THREE UP TO SEVEN DAYS TO CAPTURE FROM THE BANK AND OF THE BANK DOES NOT GET A CODE FROM GOVPAY OR THE THIRD PARTY THE BANK RELEASES THAT MONEY. PEOPLE THINK THEY SHOULD HAVE THIS MONEY IN THEIR ACCOUNT SO THEY SPEND IT. WHATEVER HOLIDAY WHATEVER THEY NEEDED FOR SO WE AS THE JPS WERE NOT EVEN US COURT ADMINISTRATORS HAVE TO GO BACK AND CALL EVERY INDIVIDUAL AND SAY YOUR PAYMENT DID NOT GO THROUGH AND SAYING THAT IT DID GO THROUGH AND WHO ARE YOU ARE YOU REALLY FROM JP FIVE BECAUSE WE HAVE NO DOCUMENTATION OR LETTER TO SHOW FROM THE COUNTY OR GOVPAY THAT THIS DID YOU HAVE A QUESTION THAT THIS HAS OCCURRED ON THEIR BEHALF AND ANY LETTERS FROM THE BANK SINGLY OR NEED LETTERS FROM US SAYING WE ARE TRYING TO COLLECT ON THESE TRANSACTIONS. SO I WANT TO REITERATE AN ACROSS-THE-BOARD WE SENSE EMAILS OUT WE ARE WAITING FROM GOVPAY TO HEAR THOSE ANSWERS WE HAD DUPLICATE PAYMENTS WHICH IS OVERDRAWN, PAYMENTS THAT HAVE TO BE REIMBURSED, WE HAVE HAD AND THE DUPLICATE PAYMENTS HAPPEN SEVERAL TIMES AND NOW WE ARE AT A PLACE WHERE WE'RE DOING OUR AUDIT NOT AUDIT BUT THE MONTHLY STATEMENT FOR THE STATE OCA REPORT AND IT IS NOT BALANCED AND EVEN THOUGH THE PAYMENTS WERE REVERSED IT IS NOT BALANCING IN-HOUSE. SO WE HAVE GOT ANOTHER LETTER OUT THAT WE SENT TO MARISOL AND DAPHNE IN REFERENCE TO THIS AND HOW DO WE FIX THE PROBLEM BECAUSE IT HAS TO BALANCE FOR US TO COMPLETE THE REPORT SO IT IS A HUGE PROBLEM ACROSS THE BOARD AND WHEN WE ARE LOOKING FOR A REMEDY TO GET THIS RESOLVED.

>> JUST TO CLARIFY THE OFFICE OF COURT ADMINISTRATION.

>> I WILL FORWARD THESE EMAILS TO EACH ONE OF YOU.

>> THANK YU. >> STEPHANIE HUNT, PURCHASING AGENT. I WANTED TO ADDRESS ALL THE THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN SET I DID MEET WITH DAPHNE A COUPLE MONTHS AGO AND WE DID DISCUSS LOOKING AT A DIFFERENT PROCESSOR. I DID INFORM HER THE TAX OFFICE WAS WORKING ON FORMAL PROCUREMENT FOR TAX COLLECTION SOFTWARE SO DEPENDING ON HOW THAT RFP IS AWARDED AND CONTRACTED , THE NEW OR CURRENT PAYMENT LIKE CURRENT SYSTEM MAY HAVE A REQUIRED PAYMENT PROCESSOR THAT GOES ALONG WITH IT WE DO HAVE OTHER SOFTWARE WE HAVE IMPLEMENTED IN THE COUNTY AND THERE ARE CERTAIN REQUIRED PAYMENT PROCESSORS THAT WORK WITH THE SOFTWARE SO WE ARE TIED TO THAT ONE AND THAT COULD BE A NEW PAYMENT PROCESSOR AND WHEN WE DISCUSSED THAT WITH THE TAX

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>> WHAT A TIME OF YEAR TO HAVE THIS. MARISOL.

>> MARISOL VILLARREAL-ALONZO COUNTY AUDITOR. WITH GOVPAY INITIALLY IT'S THE ONLY SYSTEM THAT ALLOWS THE INDIVIDUALS TO SELECT A PLEA WHEN THEY ARE PAYING JUSTICE OF THE PEACE COURT FINES. THAT WAS ONE OF THE REASONS GOVPAY WORKED AND CERTIFIED PAYMENTS DID NOT. SO THAT IS WHY THEY WENT TO GOVPAY.

THIS SITUATION IS UNFORTUNATE, A GLITCH OR WHATEVER HAPPENED AT THE REALITY IS WE HAVE TO RECONCILE WHAT HAPPENED. THE DUPLICATE PAYMENTS , WHETHER GOVPAY SENT THE MONEY OR THE TREASURER SENT THE MONEY. THEY HAVE BEEN REPORTING TO US THE MONIES HAVE BEEN SENT BACK. IT'S THE SITUATIONS WHERE THE COURT PROCESSES THE PAYMENT AND PAYMENTS ARE RETURNED SO IN ESSENCE THE COUNTY DOES NOT HAVE THE FUNDS SO THAT OFFICIAL IS SHORT $40,000 OR $8000 THEY ARE SHORT AND THEN THE MONEY IT HAS NOT BEEN SENT TO THE STATE YET BECAUSE WE HAVE NOT HIT THE QUARTER THOUGH STATE MONIES ARE DUE IN JANUARY. AT THEY DO NOT REVERSE THE TRANSACTIONS IT LOOKS LIKE WE OWE THE MONEY ON THE JUSTICE OF THE PEACE SIDE, TO THE STATE. WE DON'T WANT TO SEND MONEY TO THE STATE WE DON'T HAVE SO THE RECONCILIATION HAS TO HAPPEN , UNFORTUNATELY ALL OF THOSE TRANSACTIONS POSTED TO THE COURT SYSTEM HAVE TO BE CANCELED , YOU HAVE TO CONTACT THE CITIZEN AND EXPLAIN TO THEM THAT YOUR PAYMENT DID NOT GO THROUGH, CHECK STATEMENTS AND IT IS UNFORTUNATE TO THE CITIZENS AND FOR THE CLERKS BUT WE HAVE TO RECONCILE. YOU HAVE TO RECONCILE. AS THEY GET READY TO RECONCILE DECEMBER THEY HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH THE TREASURER.

I HAVE ASKED AUDITORS TO HAVE GRACE AND REACH OUT , IF THEY REACH OUT TO WORK WITH THE TRANSACTIONS AND LET THEM KNOW THE FIVE BUSINESS DAY DEADLINE FOR IMPORTING IS EXTENDED BECAUSE WE'RE GOING THROUGH THIS SITUATION NOW. BUT IF THEY DON'T REVERSE TRANSACTIONS THEN WHO IS GOING TO REPLENISH THE MONEY? NOT THE ELECTED OFFICIALS EVEN THOUGH IT IS THEIR SHORTAGE, THEY WOULD HAVE TO COME TO THE COMMISSIONERS COURT TO ASK FOR THE COMMISSIONERS COURT TO USE GENERAL FUND MONIES TO MAKE UP THE SHORTAGE BECAUSE YOU KNOW WE SENT THE MONEY TO THE STATE ALREADY WITH THE TAX OFFICE, THEY HAVE A SHORTAGE SO IF YOU DON'T REVERSE OR VOID TRANSACTIONS WHO IS GOING TO PAY FOR THAT? THEY NEED TO COME AND THE ONLY ONE WHO CAN AUTHORIZE

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INVOLVED IN THAT I BELIEVE. >> YOU WILL, FIRST COMMISSIONER SMITH AND THEN I WANT TO ASK JORDAN A QUESTION.

>> I HAVE TWO POINTS. THE FIRST ONE IS ON THE DOUBLE PAYMENTS WHERE IT WAS REIMBURSED BY BOTH THIRD-PARTY VENDOR , GOVPAY AND THE COUNTY . IF WE DO NOT HAVE A POLICY A COUNTYWIDE POLICY ON HOW THE REFUNDS SHOULD BE DONE I THINK I WOULD ASK THE AUDITOR LOOK AT THAT AND BRING BACK A RECOMMENDATION TO US TO SAY THAT WE DON'T AUTHORIZE , NO OFFENSE TO ANY OF Y'ALL BUT WE DON'T AUTHORIZE ANY ELECTED OFFICIAL OR INDIVIDUAL OFFICE TO ISSUE THE PAYMENT UNTIL RECONCILED WITH THE THIRD-PARTY VENDOR.

THAT IS A BASIC THING, THAT WAY WE KNOW WE WANT TO THE DOUBLE

REPAYMENT AGAIN. >> MAY I? WITH THIS PARTICULAR CASE WE HAVE NEVER HAD THIS ISSUE BEFORE. THIS IS WOWSERS .

WITH THIS CASE THE THIRD-PARTY VENDOR NEVER NOTIFIED US AND NEVER NOTIFIED GOVPAY AND WE CANNOT FIGURE OUT RHYME OR REASON WHY THEY WERE PICKING CERTAIN ONES, IT IS DUMBFOUNDING

TO BE PERFECTLY HONEST. >> I UNDERSTAND COMPLETELY. I'M SURE THE AUDITOR WOULD HAVE RECOMMENDATIONS OR SUGGESTIONS.

THE OTHER QUESTION IS THIS BOTH THE TAX OFFICE AS WELL AS THE JP'S ALREADY HAVE EXISTING CONTRACTS FOR COLLECTION AND MY QUESTION IS, IS THERE A WAY THROUGH PROCUREMENT THROUGH THE EXISTING CONTRACTS TO HAVE THEM TO DO THE OUTREACH ON THESE , THESE PAYMENTS THAT WERE NOT DONE OR THAT THEY THOUGHT WERE PROCESSED BUT WE DID NOT RECEIVE THE FUNDS SINCE WE ALREADY HAVE THE EXISTING CONTRACT FOR THEM TO DO DEBT COLLECTION, IS THERE NOT A WAY FOR THEM TO MOVE FORWARD AND HELP US MOVE FORWARD

WITH THIS? >> WE CAN LOOK AND SEE IF WE CAN DO AN AMENDMENT BECAUSE I KNOW THERE ARE GUIDELINES AS FAR AS THAT TO BE DOING , PAST A CERTAIN TIME FRAME AND I THINK IT IS 90 DAYS ON MOST OF THEM. WE CAN LOOK AND I CAN HAVE

CONVERSATIONS. >> IT MAY BE A WAY FOR US IF IT'S GOING TO COST MORE THAN 10% AND STAFF TIME AND THOSE THINGS TO GET THE PAYMENTS IF WE CAN TURN IT OVER TO THEM AND THEY GET 10% OR THE STANDING CONTRACT IT WOULD SAVE THE

COUNTY MONEY IN THE LONG RUN. >> WONDERFUL IDEA BUT I DO NOT RECOMMEND GOING THERE FIRST. COMMISSIONER HAMMER AND THE

JORDAN. >> I DON'T THINK AS A CITIZEN IF I GOT A CALL I WAS DOING GREAT THAT MIGHT CAUSE MORE WORK

FOR YOU IN THE LONG RUN. >> A GOOD FINAL STEP

>> HAVE RESENT A LETTER FROM THE COUNTY SAYING THIS IS WHAT HAPPENED AND CHECK YOUR STATEMENTS? YOU OWE THE MONEY.

TO SEE IF THEY WOULD PAY. YOU HAVE PEOPLE WHO DON'T BUT THERE WILL BE A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO WILL ACTUALLY PAY.

>> THE TAX OFFICE IS WRITING THE LETTERS.

>> BECAUSE OF THE TIME OF YEAR THERE WILL BE A LOT OF FOOT DRAGGING SO I THINK YOU ARE EXACTLY RIGHT. WE NEED TO DO A FIRST PASS BUT I WANT TO ASK JORDAN A QUESTION BEFORE WE GET

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UNDER THOSE VIEWS AS DESCRIBED BY ELECTED OFFICIALS THAT IS HOW I AM FEELING WITH THE INTERPRETATION. STOP WOK THE WORDS STEPHANIE USED IS THERE SOMETHING IN THE 2009 CONTRACT SOMETHING YOU KNOW OR IF NOT YOU CAN LOOK INTO BUT WE CAN CLAWBACK THAT FAUX PAS AND SOME WAY FOR US TO SAY UNTIL THIS IS A FULL REMEDY WILL NOT CONTINUE TO USE YOU WHAT DO YOU SAY ABOUT

THAT? >> TO BE HONEST 90% OF WHAT I HAVE HEARD TODAY I HAVE HEARD FOR THE FIRST TIME NOW I DID HAVE AN EMAIL FROM RIGHT BEFORE CHRISTMAS ABOUT THEIR OFFICES WITH ISSUES AND CATHERINE WAS LOOKING INTO IT I DON'T KNOW THE FULL EXTENT OF IT. STEPHANIE DID GATHER THE OLD CONTRACT FOR ME TO PRODUCE THROUGH WITH TERMINATION DEFINITELY AN OPTION. THERE IS NOTHING THAT ADDRESSES STOP WORK, IF YOU WILL , TERMINATION IS AN OPTION. IF THAT IS THE ROUTE THE COURT WANTS TO GO AND WE WOULD HAVE TO WORK ON REOCCURRING COST. IT SOUNDS LIKE EACH ELECTED HAS HAD A DIFFERENT VARIETY OF PROBLEM.

SO I THINK SOME SITUATIONS MIGHT BE ABLE TO RECOUP EASIER THAN OTHERS , I AM HONESTLY NOT SURE ON THAT BUT WE CAN PULL IT UP AND TERMINATE WITH 30 DAY NOTICE. WE CAN LOOKING THROUGH SOME STOP WORK OPTION I DO THINK AN OFFICE ELECTED OFFICE COULD TAKE THAT METHOD DOWN OR LIKE YOU SAID THAT WOULD BE FINE. I DON'T KNOW THE LESSER OF TWO EVILS. YOU TWO OR THREE OR FOUR , YOU WOULD KNOW BETTER THAN I WOULD. THE LESSER OF TWO EVILS ON SOMEONE PAYING ONLINE VERSUS OTHER ISSUES YOU ARE ENCOUNTERING. I DO THINK THEY HAVE THE ABILITY TO TAKE DOWN THE LINK. I WAS TALKING WITH MY OFFICE HEARING THIS TODAY BECAUSE THAT IS OUR RECORDS WORKS. SO COMING UP.

>> TAKING DOWN THE LINK I BELIEVE BASED ON INFORMATION YOU SHARED WITH US AND BY DEFAULT WITH THE PUBLIC I BELIEVE IT IS SMART TO TAKE DOWN THE LINK BECAUSE IF YOU LOSE CONVENIENCE WE KNOW , BUT THERE IS A BIGGER INCONVENIENCE IF THE PAYMENT DOES NOT HAPPEN OR THINGS DO NOT TAKE PLACE WE ARE EXACERBATING THE ISSUES SO I BELIEVE FREEZING ACCESS IS SMART THAT IS MY OPINION NOW BEFORE WE GO BACK ANYTHING ELSE OVER HERE?

>> TO BE CLEAR I THINK THE OPTION ON THE LINK USING THAT IS EACH ELECTED OFFICIAL IF THEY WANT TO DO IT THAT'S WHAT YOU SAID. I THINK IT IS AN OPTION AND IT WOULD BE UP TO THE ELECTED OFFICIAL THE LESSER OF TWO EVILS WITH THE SITUATION

THEY ARE ENCOUNTERING. >> FROM THE ELECTED OFFICIALS I WANT TO KNOW IS THAT AN OPTION THAT WOULD WORK FOR YOUR OFFICE OR NOT? THE TAX OFFICE NOT SEEING THE TAX OFFICE IS THE MOST IMPORTANT NOW BUT YOU ARE COLLECTING THE MOST MONEY AT THIS POINT SO WOULD THAT WORK FOR YOU?

>> NOT RIGHT NOW. JANUARY 31 IS THE PAYMENT DEADLINE AND RIGHT NOW ONLINE WE PROCESS 200 OR 300 PAYMENTS DAILY FOR MILLIONS OF DOLLARS SO TURNING THAT OFF IMMEDIATELY WE COULD DO IT BUT IT WOULD NOT BE A HAPPY SITUATION.

>> I HAVE RECEIVED EMAILS FROM PEOPLE SAYING THIS IS THE MESSAGE THEY RECEIVED AND THEY CANNOT PAY ONLINE AND THEY ARE UPSET SO I KNOW IT IS A CONVENIENCE MATTER.

>> ON THAT FRONT POTENTIALLY I HEAR YOU DISCUSSING DIFFERENT LETTERS I DON'T KNOW IF WE TRY TO DO COUNTYWIDE LETTER DESCRIBING EACH CIRCUMSTANCE IF IT WOULD TURN INTO A 10 PAGE LETTER NOBODY WOULD READ BUT IT COULD LOOK STRANGE GETTING FOUR DIFFERENT LETTERS WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE WHATEVER WORKS BEST FOR THE ELECTED OFFICIAL POTENTIALLY FOR THE TAX OFFICE SENDING A LETTER OUT GIVING A HEADS UP ABOUT ISSUES WHICH SOUNDS LIKE YOU ARE WORKING ON WOULD BE HELPFUL SO IF AND WHEN THERE IS ANOTHER PAYMENT DISCREPANCY , THEY ARE NOT CAUGHT OFFGUARD BY ASKING TO BE PAID AGAIN OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, THAT IS AN OPTION, NOT THE MOST IDEAL BUT IT IS AN OPTION

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GOOD IDEA. >> COMMISSIONER INGALSBE ASKED A QUESTION CAN YOU SUMMARIZE YOUR PERSPECTIVES?

>> SHUTTING DOWN THE LINK , THAT'S THE MAIN SOURCE THAT WE USE. SO WHILE I AM STANDING HERE I WOULD BRING IT BACK TO THE OTHER SIX JPS AND HAVE A FULL DISCUSSION WITH THEM. I JUST GOT A TEXT FROM JUDGE MENDOZA LOOKING AT MAYBE , HE SUGGESTED MAYBE WE DO ELECTRONIC PAYMENT THROUGH TYLER OR SOMETHING USING THEIR SOFTWARE ALLOW A PERSON TO SEARCH VIA TEXT AND THE LIKE. SO THAT IS NOT AN OPTION BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT THE PEOPLE USED TO PAY TICKETS AND FINES AND ALSO WITH THAT IS DEADLINES. THERE ARE DEADLINES UP TO BE LIKE WHEN THE TICKET IS IN THAT CERTAIN DAYS AND TIMES, SO DO NOT HAVE THE ACCESS TO THE PEOPLE TO PAY IS A PROBLEM. THE OTHER HALF ARE COMING INTO PACER GOVPAY BECAUSE

PEOPLE DON'T HAVE CASH. >> I HEAR YOU LOUD AND CLEAR, STEPHANIE AND JORDAN I SEE THE MOST URGENT AND PRESSING THING IS IN PART WHAT COMMISSIONER SMITH TOUCHED ON. WE HAVE MAGNIFICENTLY POWERFUL CONTRACTS WITH GREAT ORGANIZATIONS DOING A MAGNIFICENT JOB LIKE TYLER AND OTHER JUDGES. TO SEE IF THERE IS A QUICK SWAP OF A LINK SO PEOPLE CAN CONTINUE TO PAY MONEY IN THE MEANTIME BECAUSE THE WAY I HEAR IT AND SEE IT AS A EVERYDAY PERSON , I CAN DO THIS TIMELY FILING TO PAY AND GO BUT IF IT OES NOWHERE OR DOES NOT GET REPORTED THEN WHAT DID WE ALL GAIN? I AM TRYING TO REMEDY THAT ISSUE. I UNDERSTAND COMPLETELY, I PUT PEOPLE ON PROBATION FOR DRIVERS LICENSE ISSUES, I UNDERSTAND THE TIMELINE AND I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU ARE SAYING COMPLETELY BUT I THINK TO CONTINUE TO LEAVE THAT OPEN WITH BIG HOLES IN IT IS NOT A GOOD OPTION.

>> TYLER HAS A PAYMENT PROCESSING FEATURE AND JEFF AND I DID DISCUSS IT BUT IT IS NOT SOMETHING THAT WOULD GET TURNED ON TOMORROW , IT WOULD BE SOMETHING TO ADD TO THE CONTRACT, COME TO COURT AND THERE IS A LIMITATION PROCESS BECAUSE IT IS SOFTWARE SO THERE IS NOT GOING TO BE AN EASY FIX OF TURN THIS OFF AND TURN THIS ONE ON.

>> WE CAN CALL AN EMERGENCY MEETING. WE HAVE TO FIND A WAY

TO BE QUICK. >> I DON'T KNOW IF THIS HAS TO BE DONE BY THE COURT, I WILL NEED LEGAL TO WEIGH IN. IS THERE ANY WAY TO INSTITUTE FOR DELINQUENT PAYMENTS A GRACE PERIOD DUE TO THE ISSUES ARSING? SO PEOPLE HAVE THE ABILITY? FROM A TICKET PERSPECTIVE FIVE DAY BUSINESS DAY GRACE PERIOD IN CASE THEY COME THE DAY OF AND SOMETHING GOES WRONG WITH THE LINK SO IT'S NOT ON US AND WE DON'T

HAVE TO REVERSE. >> WE ASKED , WHEN PEOPLE ARE COMING TO US AND WE'VE ALREADY HIT THIS WITH DECEMBER 31, MAKE PAYMENT BEFORE DECEMBER 31. WE ASKED THEM DID YOU GET AN EMAIL CONFIRMING A PAYMENT FROM GOVPAY? IF YOU HAVE NOT RECEIVED ANY EMAIL THERE'S NOTHING WE CAN DO, IT'S IN THE STATUTE.

THIS IS HOW WE HAVE TO FOLLOW THE RULES AND IT WOULD TAKE MORE THAN COMMISSIONERS COURT SAYING SOMETHING.

>> ONE OTHER QUESTION NOBODY HAS BROUGHT UP THAT I HAVE CONCERN OVER. IF WE HAVE PROCESSED THOSE PAYMENTS AND IF THEY BELIEVE THEY PROCESSED THOSE PAYMENTS WHAT IMPACT DOES IT HAVE SINCE STATUTORILY WE HAVE 48 HOURS, FOR OTHER ENTITIES THAT WE TAX FOUR TO PRESENT THOSE? WHAT LIABILITY OR WHAT IS THE ISSUE WITH THE COUNTY BECAUSE WE TAX AT 140 SOMETHING ENTITIES AND STATUTORILY WE HAVE TO HAVE THE MONEY TO THEM THREE BUSINESS

DAYS. >> THREE BUSINESS DAYS TO COLLECT THE MONEY TURN IT AROUND AND GET IT OUT.

>> THAT WAS MY CONCERN. IF WE WERE TO CUT THAT OFF , IT WOULD MURDER US WITH T■HE 140 TAX ENTITIES.

>> SORRY ONE AT A TIME. >> WE HAVE OUR OWN BANK ACCOUNTS

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CANNOT FLIP A SWITCH. >> THE COURT IS READY TO ACT,

TELL US WHAT TO DO, MARISOL. >> BACK TO THE RECONCILIATION, THE PAYMENT DID NOT HAPPEN SO WE DON'T HAVE THE FUNDS SO THE CORRECT WAY TO CORRECT IT IS TO REVERSE THE TRANSACTION AND THAT'S THE RECOMMENDATION WE HAVE GIVEN JUSTICE OF THE PEACE OFFICES AND I KNOW IT IS EXTRA AND TIME-CONSUMING, BUT WE ARE COMING UP WHERE WE NEED TO REPORT WHAT WAS COLLECTED FOR THE COURT COSTS AND WE HAVE TO REVERSE THE TRANSACTIONS.

>> THANK YOU, MARISOL. VERY CLEAR AND CONCISE AND I WOULD ASK WHAT COMMISSIONER HAMMER SUGGESTED WHICH IS PERFECT. WE SHOULD NOT COME AFTER THE RESIDENTS THAT HAVE MOVED THROUGH THE PROCESS WHO HAVE BEEN DERAILED IN THEIR ATTEMPTS AND WE SHOULD HAVE THE HIGHEST LEVEL OF LENIENCY AS WE MOVE THROUGH THIS WITH EVERYONE AFFECTED. BECAUSE IT IS NOT OUR FAULT , IT IS NOT THEIR FAULT IT IS A THIRD-PARTY SO WE MUST IN MY OPINION , I SHOULD ECHO COMMISSIONER HAMMER'S REQUEST TO BE AS LENIENT AS WE POSSIBLY CAN MOVING FORWARD THEN WE WILL COME TOGETHER AND DRAFT A LETTER BASED ON THE DIRECTION FROM OTHER DEPARTMENT HEADS AND OFFICIALS GUIDE ME AND I BELIEVE

WE WILL DO IT, RIGHT? >> HOW ARE WE GOING TO GET THE MANPOWER TO DO THIS? IS THERE ANYTHING WE CAN DO FROM A COMMISSIONER LEVEL ? HELP US TO BUILD THOSE LINKS BECAUSE

THEY'RE COMING. >> ANY ACTION FROM US ON THIS ITEM? OKAY, YOU HAVE DONE A MAGNIFICENT JOB INFORMING US AND THE PUBLIC ABOUT THE DEPTH AND SEVERITY OF THE ISSUE AND WE ARE STANDING READY FOR WHATEVER YOU AND LEGAL AND OUR AUDITORS AND PURCHASING ALL DECIDE IS THE BEST MOVING FORWARD WE WILL SUPPORT YOUR. THANK YOU. PLEASE OPEN

>> K 4 . >> DISCUSSION POSSIBLE ACTION

[K.4. Discussion and possible action authorizing the execution of an Interlocal Agreement for Jail Based Competency Restoration (JBCR) Program between Hays County, Texas and Hill Country Community Mental Health and Mental Retardation Centers to establish a JBCR Program within the Hays County Jail. INGALSBE/HIPOLITO/HIGGINS ]

COUNTY JAIL. >> SO MOVED.

>> SECOND. >> THANK YOU PLEASE STATE YOUR

NAME AND TITLE. >> I AM WITH THE HAYS COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE SUPPORTING SERVICE. GOOD MORNING AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. WE ARE HERE TODAY TO SEEK APPROVAL FOR THE INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT BETWEEN HAYS COUNTY AND OUR LOCAL MENTAL HEALTH AUTHORITY, HILL COUNTRY FOR THE GEL-BASED CONFIDENCE HE RESTORATION PROGRAM. A GROUP EFFORT BETWEEN THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, HILL COUNTRY MENTAL HEALTH AUTHORITY, WHILE PATH REPRESENTATIVES, THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE AND GUIDANCE FROM THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT HOWEVER AT THIS TIME I WANT TO TURN IT OVER TO THE DAS OFFICE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE OR TELL YOU A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE PROGRAM. I CAN

ANSWER ANYTHING. >> THANK YOU, CAPTAIN.

>> GOOD MORNING JORDAN COMMISSIONERS MY NAME IS LANDON CAMPBELL DIVISION CHIEF HAYS COUNTY DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE. I WANT TO BRIEFLY DISCUSS WHAT WE ARE DOING SO THE PUBLIC UNDERSTANDS THE SIGNIFICANCE OF THE STEP YOU ARE BEING ASKED TO AUTHORIZE TODAY. I WANT TO THANK THE DIFFERENT PARTNERS WORKING TIRELESSLY FOR THE LAST COUPLE MONTHS INCLUDING DISTRICT AND COUNTY COURTS, THE HAYS COUNTY SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT, HILL COUNTRY, LOCAL MENTAL HEALTH AUTHORITY, JAIL MEDICAL PROVIDER AND BUDGET OFFICE, WE WERE IN CONSTANT MEETINGS TRYING TO CREATE AN INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT AND NEW CONTRACTS TO BRING THIS TO YOU ALL TODAY, IT HAS TAKEN A NUMBER OF MONTHS BUT I WANT TO THANK THE DIFFERENT PARTIES THAT I'VE DONE THAT. GEL-BASED COMPETENCY RESTORATION FOR THE VIEWING PUBLIC AND ANY COMMISSIONERS OR JUDGE THAT HAVE A QUESTION DEALS WITH THE LEGAL ISSUE OF COMPETENCY TO PROCEED IN A LEGAL PROCEEDING. SO WHAT HAPPENS IS BEFORE A CRIMINAL DEFENDANT CAN EVEN DEFEND THEMSELVES IN COURT, THEY HAVE TO MEET A LEGAL STANDARD OF BEING COMPETENT TO PROCEED. THAT IS THEY CAN ENGAGE WITH A DEFENSE ATTORNEY IN A LEGAL STRATEGY THAT THEY UNDERSTAND THE CHARGES AGAINST THEM AND THEY CAN TAKE ACTION THEY NEED TO, TO PROCEED, DEFEND THEMSELVES AGAINST CHARGES FROM

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>> I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR TOUCHING ON ALL THE IMPORTANT HIGHLIGHTS FOR THE VIEWING PUBLIC. WHEN WE APPROVED IN COURT AND KELLY THE DA ASKED FOR IT IN COURT, THE ENERGY YOU DESCRIBED AGAINST SUPPORTING THIS MOVE WAS ABOUT PUSHING PEOPLE THROUGH THE SYSTEM, TO HURRY UP AND CONVICT FOLKS. I FULLY SUPPORT AND UNDERSTAND THE IDEA AS I KNOW THE ENTIRE COURT DOES BECAUSE IT IS SOMETHING WE HAVE VOTED ON AND SPOKEN ABOUT PUBLICLY. IT IS VERY IMPORTANT THAT FOLKS UNDERSTAND THE NUMBERS YOU JUST GAVE, I WILL EQUATE THEM TO THE CALCULATOR SO WE CAN SEE WHAT THAT MEANS BECAUSE YOU HAVE EXTRAPOLATED SOME KEY CRITICAL PIECES. 300 DAYS IN JAIL AT AN AVERAGE COST OF $45,000 , THAT WE HAVE SPENT IN TAXPAYER MONEY AND WE HAVE NOTHING TO SHOW FOR IT. SO COME ANYTHING AND EVERY THING WE DO TO SHORTEN THE TIMELINE, BECAUSE WE STILL ARE THE LAND OF THE FREE, THE HOME OF THE BRAVE WHICH MEANS INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY BUT PART OF THE PROCESS IS WHAT YOU ARE DESCRIBING. MAKE SURE YOU ARE SOUND , OF SOUND MIND TO STAND BEFORE A JUDGE. SO THIS IS A CRITICAL PIECE OF THE CONVERSATION. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR WHAT YOU ARE DOING AND ARTICULATING THE DETAILS. MISSIONERS BEFORE WE GO ON.

>> I THINK IT IS A WIN WIN FROM A PHYSICAL STANDPOINT FROM HELING CITIZENS AND HELPING DOING THE RIGHT THING WE ARE MOVING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION. MAKES SENSE ACROSS THE BOARD, THE JUICE IS DEFINITELY WORTH THE SQUEEZE.

>> I LOOK FORWARD TO HEARING FROM MICHELLE BUT I CAN TELL YOU THAT SEVERAL OF US TOOK A TOUR OF COMAL COUNTY AND THE WORK MENTAL HEALTH IS DOING THERE AND THE PROGRAM HAVE ESTABLISHED

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>> WELL SET, ADDITIONAL COMMENTS BEFORE WE GO ON TO THE NEXT

PERSON? >> I WANT TO THANK EVERYONE FOR THE WORK. I KNOW THIS IS A SMALL STEP IN CRIMINAL JUSTICE REFORM TO GET TO THE BIGGER VISION THAT WE HAVE FOR THIS AND THIS IS A GREAT PROGRAM AND I LOOK FORWARD TO GETTING THE UPDATES AS IT

MOVES FORWARD THANK YOU SO MUCH. >> I AGREE WITH EVERYTHING SAID . WE HAVE WORKED ON THIS FOR A VERY LONG TIME. THE PARTNERSHIP WITH HULK COUNTRY, THE MENTAL HEALTH AUTHORITY HAS BEEN WONDERFUL AND AS I READ SOME OF THE RESPONSIBILITIES, THIS IS A CURRICULUM DRIVEN VALUE AND THERAPEUTIC RESTORATION PROGRAM PROVIDING SERVICES AND HELP THAT THESE INDIVIDUALS NEED, TO HAVE THEM TO KEEP FROM HAVING THEM TO WAIT MONTHS AND YEARS SOMETIMES TO GET THE HELP THEY TRULY NEED SO I AM HAPPY WE ARE AT THIS POINT THAT WE ALL TRULY UNDERSTAND THE BENEFIT THAT THIS

PROGRAM IS GOING TO PROVIDE. >> LANDING BEFORE YOU SWITCH OFF WHO IS BEST FIT TO ANSWER THE QUESTION BECAUSE I DON'T WANT ANYONE TO FEEL CORNERED. WHAT IS OUR COUNTY AS YOU HAVE SO PERFECTLY STATED AVERAGE STAYS IN STATE HOSPITALS AND I KNOW THE AVERAGE COST PER PERSON PER DAY. WHAT IS THE EXPECTATION OF CONTRIBUTIONS RESPONSIBILITIES ON THE FINANCIAL SIDE FROM THE COUNTY IN THIS TRANSACTION? IF YOU CAN SPEAK TO THAT.

>> JUDGE I WILL DEFER TO THE CIVIL DIVISION, THEY TALKED ABOUT CONTRACTS AND I GOT TO BE A CRIMINAL ATTORNEY.

>> I SAW THE GLOSS OVER. >> THAT IS FAIR, JORDAN POWELL CIVIL FIRST ASSESSMENT, THIS PROGRAM IS GRANT FUNDED BY THE STATE, IT GOES TO HILL COUNTRY TO PROVIDE SERVICES AND I WOULD SAY THE COST FOR THE COUNTY COMES INTO ADDITIONAL MEDICATIONS THAT ME BE NEEDED. THOSE MEDICATIONS ARE NOT COVERED BY THE GRANT BUT THOSE WILL WORK WITHIN OUR SEPARATE BUT SOMEWHAT RELATED CONTRACT WITH WELL PAST AS THAT'S WHERE WE GET MEDICATIONS FOR THE JAIL SO THAT WILL ROLL OVER TO THE CONTRACT. FOR THE PROGRAM ITSELF INITIATED THAT IS GRANT FUNDED, MICHELLE CAN EXPAND ON THAT, THE COUNTY SIDE WOULD BE COST FOR

MEDICATION. >> BEAUTIFULLY STATED THANK YOU

NOW WE CAN DO THE HANDOFF. >> I DID MEAN TO MENTION WELL PATH AND THEIR WILLINGNESS TO PARTICIPATE AND PROVIDE

MEDICATIONS. >> THAT'S GREAT, THESE ISSUES AFFECT EVERYONE EVERYWHERE. NAME AND TITLE FOR THE VIEWING

PUBLIC. MAGNIFICENT PARTNER. >> THANK YOU DIRECTOR OF FORENSIC SERVICES FOR HILL COUNTRY CENTERS. I DON'T HAVE MUCH MORE TO ADD I JUST WANTED TO TAKE THE NUMER YOU PROVIDED, JUDGE. TAKING THAT AMOUNT AND HOW MUCH IT COSTS TO HOW SOMEBODY FOR ONE YEAR IN JAIL, CURRENTLY THE WAIT LIST IN HAYS COUNTY IS 24 PEOPLE ON THE WAIT LIST SO TAKE THAT AT TIMES IT BY 24 AND THAT'S HOW MUCH WE WOULD BE PAYING. CURRENTLY OUR CARMEL COUNTY PROGRAM , I KNOW THE NUMBER IS A LITTLE BIT OLD BUT IT IS GOING UP WE HAVE A 75% SUCCESS RATE OF RESTORING PEOPLE TO COMPETENCY WITHIN 60 DAYS OR LESS SO WE ARE MONITORING THAT.

WE ARE NOT EVEN GETTING CLOSE TO 60 DAYS IS SOMETIMES. SO, I AM

[01:20:01]

>> I AM SO GRATEFUL THAT ALL THE WAY TO YOUR CEO HAVE ALWAYS CONSISTENTLY BEEN SO HELPFUL, SO ACCESSIBLE AND ON THE FOREFRONT OF MODERNIZING THE JUDICIAL SYSTEM ON EVERY FRONT THERE EVERY BEHAVIORAL ASSESSMENT ORGANIZATION EFFORTS, EVERY CLUB , EVERYTHING WE ARE DOING YOU GUYS ARE PRESENT. I WILL SAY

THANK YOU. >> ANYTHING ELSE, COMMISSIONERS?

PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. >> COMMISSIONER HAMMER YES, COMMISSIONER INGALSBE YES, COMMISSIONER SMITH YES, COMMISSIONER COHEN YES, JUDGE BECERRA YES.

>> ONE MORE COMMENT. I KNOW SOMEONE MENTIONED WELL PATH, WELL PATH HAS BEEN A GREAT PARTNER WORKING REALLY WELL WITH ALL PARTIES FIGURING OUT WHO IS RESPONSIBLE FOR WHAT, WELL PATH HAS BEEN WORKING WELL WITH HILL COUNTRY SEPARATE MEETINGS AND I WANT TO LET EVERYONE KNOW THAT HAS BEEN A CLEAN PROCESS AND EVERYONE HAS BEEN REALLY INTEGRATED.

>> THANK YOU WATCHING THE AUDIENCE THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH. GOING NOW K 1 , TO KEEP PEOPLE MOVING. I SEE YOU AND I

[K.1.Discussion and possible action to authorize the execution of an Interlocal Agreement between Hays County, the City of Kyle, and the City of Buda related to the construction, operation, and use of the Kyle Animal Shelter. COHEN/INGALSBE/BOUTTE/GONZALES]

VALUE YOUR TIME. >> K 1. DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO AUTHORIZE EXECUTION OF INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT BETWEEN HAYS COUNTY, THE CITY OF KYLE AND THE CITY OF BUTTE A RELATED TO CONSTRUCTION, OPERATIN AND USE OF THE KYLE ANIMAL SHELTER.

>> SO MOVED AND SECOND. >> TALKING TO YOU I WAS WATCHING YOUR TIME AND MOVING IT UP. YOU ARE BUSY AND I AM MOVING IT UP BECAUSE YOU ARE BUSY. NOW YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.

>> I AM HERE TO SUPPORT THE INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT WITH THE CITY OF KYLE. AS WE BEGIN THE NEW YEAR IT IS ALSO THE LAST YEAR THE COUNTY HAS A CONTRACT WITH THE CITY OF SAN MARCUS, TIME IS RUNNING OUT AND THIS IS A CONCRETE PLAN FOR ALMOST ALL THE COUNTY , A STEP IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION BEING PART OF THE DESIGN AND PLANNING OF THE NEW ANIMAL KYLE FACILITY. I CAN SAY IT'S NOT ONLY GOING TO BE BEAUTIFULLY DESIGNED, BUT DONE WITH THOUGHT AND CONSIDERATION FOR THE ANIMAL HEALTH AND SECURITY FOR THOSE THAT WILL BE STAYING THERE. THEY INCLUDE PROGRAM AREAS AND ROOM FOR EXPANSION. I HAVE CONFIDENCE IN THE CITY OF KYLE'S ANIMAL DIVISION TO DO WHAT IS BEST FOR ALL THE ANIMALS, PLEASE CONTINUE TO SUPPORT SPAY AND NEUTER SERVICES AS IT IS THE FRONT-LINE WAY TO ELIMINATE OVERPOPULATION THAT END UP BEING IN THE SHELTERS. WE WOULD ALSO LIKE TO SAY HERE TO CONTINUE BEING THE LOW-COST AND FREE COUNTY VET HOSPITAL AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO EXPANDING RESOURCES THAT ARE NEEDED. WE DO RECOGNIZE THERE IS A GAP ON THE WEST SIDE SO WE ARE HOPING THAT WE CAN QUICKLY FIGURE OUT HOW THAT IS GOING TO BE TAKEN CARE OF AND WE WOULD LIKE TO PLAN THAT IF NEEDED, BUT AT LEAST WE KNOW A GOOD CHUNK OF THE ANIMALS DO HAVE A PLACE IF WE CAN GET THAT MOVED ON AND I'M HERE TO SUPPORT THAT, THANK

YOU. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH,

COMMISSIONER INGALSBE. >> WE HAVE COME BACK AFTER THE LAST COMMISSIONERS MEETING WE WERE ASKED TO ALLOW THE NEW MEMBERS OF THE CITY OF KYLE TO HAVE TIME TO MAYBE LOOK AT THIS AND JUST BE MORE AWARE OF WHAT'S GOING ON BUT I THINK WE ARE READY TO MOVE FORWARD. THIS LAYS OUT ROLES AND RESPONSIBILITIES OF HOW WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THE CITY OF KYLE.

OF COURSE WE WILL BE PAYING A SHARE, DESIGNING CONSTRUCTION AS WELL AS AFTER THE CONSTRUCTION THE OVERALL OPERATION AND MAINTENANCE OF THE FACILITY AND SO I DON'T KNOW IF THERE IS ANY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS ANYBODY HAS BUT I AM READY TO MOVE FORWARD

ON THIS AND -- >> ANYTHING ELSE TO ADD?

>> HAD A CHANCE BEFORE SWORN IN TO MEET WITH SOME OF THESE INDIVIDUALS. THE NEW MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBER AND CITY COUNCILMEMBER. TO BRING THEM UP TO SPEED TO TOUCH BASE AND SAY

[01:25:05]

ANYTHING TO ADD. >> I HAVE MORE BUT I WOULD LOVE

TO HEAR WHAT YOU HAVE TO SAY. >> I HAVE IT WRITTEN DOWN. IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING KYLE WILL NOT TAKE ACTION ON THIS TONIGHT AND I BELIEVE THERE'S A LIKELIHOOD THAT THEIR STANCE WILL CHANGE GIVEN THE NEW COUNCIL, WE HAD LET THEM TAKE THE LEAD SO WE SHOULD SEE WHAT THE DISPOSITION IS BEFORE WE ACT.

>> I HAVE A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT VIEW AND I SAY THAT BECAUSE THIS IS AN AGREEMENT NEGOTIATED OVER AN EXTENDED PERIOD OF TIME AND IT WAS NOT NEGOTIATED WITH ONE CITY COUNCILMEMBER OR ONE MAYOR OR ONE ANYBODY. IT WAS AN EFFORT ON BEHALF OF NOT ONLY AND I KNOW WE TALKED ABOUT THE CITY OF KYLE BUT IT IS IMPORTANT TO MENTION THIS IS THE CITY OF JUDAH ALREADY TAKING ACTION ON THIS AND IF WE TAKE ACTION TODAY TWO OF THE THREE ENTITIES HAVE MOVED FORWARD WITH IT. I DO BELIEVE ADDRESSING THE COMMENTS OF WE DO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO TRY TO DO SOME EXPANSION ON WHAT THE OVERALL PROCESS IS ON THE WEST SIDE I WOULD ANTICIPATE ONE, IF NOT TWO FACILITIES OVER TIME AS WE NEED TO THE EXPANSION AND ONE IN DRIPPING SPRINGS . I WOULD SAY AT THIS POINT WE ARE NOT ONLY DISCUSSED THE PREVIOUS PLAN AND WE HAD LONG DISCUSSIONS IN COURT RELATIVE TO THAT IN MARCH. WHEN WE CHOSE TO MOVE FORWARD AND CREATE THE ENTITY WITHIN THE COUNTY THAT IS GOING TO BE SUPERVISING OUR PORTION OF THIS, WE HAD LONG DISCUSSIONS OVER WHAT A COUNTYWIDE PLAN ADDRESSING THESE ISSUES WOULD BE , WHEN WE LOOKED AT THE BROAD PLAN AND THEY BROUGHT OPTIONS BACK TO THE COURT AND WE MADE A SELECTION ON WHAT TO MOVE FORWARD BY AND THAT WAS A UNANIMOUS DECISION IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY. THIS IS THE NEXT STEP IN THE PROCESS. IF WE DELAY ANY LONGER AS MENTIONED AND WE ARE AWARE WHEN WE STARTED THE PROCESS WE ARE ON A TIMELINE AND ANY ADDITIONAL DELAY, WHETHER THAT IS A WEEK OR TWO WEEKS, WE ARE AT THE POINT NOW WHERE TWO WEEKS IN DESIGN IS A BIG GAP ESPECIALLY IF WE WANT SOMETHING BY THE END OF THE YEAR SO I AM ALL FOR MOVING FORWARD WITH IT

TODAY AS WELL. >> VERY WELL I JUST WANTED TO

SHARE MIKE MEDICATION. >> I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT TO SHARE, THIS WAS CONSTRUCTED GOING BACK AND FORTH. A LOT OF INPUT HAS BEEN MADE , A LOT OF RECOMMENDATIONS HAVE BEEN MADE AND IT HAS MOVED FORWARD IN A MORE BENEFICIAL CAPACITY FOR THE COUNTY. I WILL SAY I WOULD BE REMISS TO TO SAY THE CITY OF KYLE, IT IS OBVIOUS SOMETHING WITHIN THEIR LEADERSHIP THE CITY OF KYLE WANTED TO SEE CHANGED, SO YOU HAD THEM COMING OF A NEW GROUP COMING IN OF TWO AND I UNDERSTAND THIS DECISION WAS NOT MADE BETWEEN TWO PEOPLE THAT THEY WILL BE LOOKING AT DEBT CAPACITY TONIGHT AND DISCUSSING THOSE THINGS SO I'M BECAUSE I KNOW THE WORK MY COLLEAGUES HAVE PUT INTO THIS, I AM COMFORTABLE MOVING FORWARD, I WANT TO SAY WHEN IT COMES TO TIME WE ARE LOOKING AT FEASIBILITY FOR WESTSIDE AND I WOULD LIKE SUPPORT FROM WERE FOR PRECINCT 3 FOR OUR OWN SERVICES TO BE TAKEN CARE OF MOVING FORWARD I THINK I COULD MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT KNOWLEDGE AND ALSO I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE SURE THAT KYLE IS THE FIRST THAT DELIVERS THEIR PORTION OF THE MONEY BEFORE THE

COUNTY PUTS THEIR PORTION IN. >> I COULDN'T AGREE MORE, THE ONLY OTHER THING I WOULD ADD IS AND I THINK THE CITY OF KYLE WILL COME TO THE SAME CONCLUSION WHEN THEY HAVE THE CONVERSATION BECAUSE THE CITY OF BUDA DID AND WE DEFINITELY CAME TO THE CONCLUSION. STANDALONE FACILITIES FOR THE CITY OF KYLE OR HAYS COUNTY, THE COST SAVINGS TO TAXPAYERS AND THE AMOUNT AND QUALITY OF SERVICES THAT CAN BE PROVIDED IN A UNIFIED FACILITY , IT SHINES AND I SAY THAT BECAUSE THE AMOUNT OF MONEY IT WOULD TAKE TO DO TWO COMPLETELY DIFFERENT FACILITIES AND GUARANTEE A LEVEL OF CARE THAT IS A UNIFIED NONUNIFORM LEVEL OF CARE THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY WOULD NOT BE POSSIBLE UNLESS WE DO

[01:30:04]

>> WE HAVE EXECUTIVE SESSION ITEM THAT WILL LUBE INTO THE CONVERSATION BECAUSE I THINK YOU HAVE A GOOD OPTION ON THE TABLE, I BELIEVE IN IT AND I BELIEVE IN WHAT PARTNERS ARE DOING NOW ON THE GROUND. I SAW THE GRAPHIC SHOWING DIFFERENT SERVICES LIKE THE MENU AND PRICE POINTS, THOSE ARE AWESOME, GOOD JOB AND IT IS GETTING TRACTION AND WE WANT THE SAME THING I TOTALLY SUPPORT THAT. I NEVER WANT THAT TO BE MISCONSTRUED. COMMISSIOER.

>> I WAS GOING TO SAY OUR ACTION IF WE DO MOVE FORWARD ON THIS TODAY IT IS NOT SAYING WE DON'T WANT THOSE NEW MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL TO NOT TAKE A LITTLE BIT OF TIME TO MORE FULLY UNDERSTAND THE CONTRACT AND I GUESS THEY'RE GOING TO MAKE REVISIONS IT WILL HAVE TO COME BACK TO THE COURT FOR APPROVAL ON THOSE. BUT YOU KNOW AS EVERYBODY SAYS WE HAVE WORKED FOR A REALLY LONG TIME WITH SERVICES NEEDED AND YEAH, HOPEFULLY WE CAN COME TOGETHER AND WORK ON THIS.

>> DEPENDING ON HOW THOSE NEW COUNCILMEMBERS WORK TONIGHT WILL DETERMINE IF IT COMES BACK AS A NEW ILA OR NOT PLEASE CALL THE

ROLL. >> COMMISSIONER SMITH YES, COMMISSIONER COHEN YES, COMMISSIONER HAMMER YES, COMMISSIONER INGALSBE YES, JUDGE BECERRA YES .

>> THANK YOU. ANY OTHER ELECTED OFFICIAL AGENDA ITEM OR STRAIGHT TO THE ROADS? COMMISSIONERS ANY IDEAS? LET'S GET THIS OUT OF

[J.1. PLN-2859-PC; Hold a Public Hearing regarding the Deer Run Estates, Lot 26, Replat. HAMMER/BOUTTE ]

THE WAY THREE ITEMS. >> J 1.

PUBLIC HEARING REGARDING DEER STATES LOTS 26 REPLIED.

>> ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS AGENDA ITEM PLEASE APPROACH THE PODIUM. NO MOVEMENT I CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. OVER TO STAFF.

>> GOOD MORNING JUDGE IN COMMISSIONERS. HAYS COUNTY DEVELOPMENT SERVICES PLANNING DIVISION SENIOR PLANNER, THIS ITEM WAS ONLY TO HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING WITH NO ACTION TAKING PLACE, ONCE REVIEW IS COMPLETE WE WILL BRING IT BACK FOR FINAL

[J.2. PLN-2602-PC; Call for a Public Hearing on January 20th, 2026 for the Indian Hills Ranch, Lot 19, Replat. SMITH/BOUTTE ]

>> THANK YOU PLEASE OPEN J 2. >> PLN-2602-PC; CALL FOR A PUBLIC HEARING ON JANUARY 20TH, 2026 FOR THE INDIAN HILLS RANCH, LOT 19, REPLAT. J 3 . PLN-2787-PC;

[J.3. PLN-2787-PC; Call for a Public Hearing on January 20th, 2026 regarding Springlake, Replat of Lots 133-A, 134-A, & Tract 135. SMITH/BOUTTE]

. >> SO MOVED.

[I. 1. Discussion and possible action regarding requesting the Texas Department of Transportation (TxDOT) to prepare an agreement in accordance with HB 3697 from the 88th Texas Legislative Session. SMITH/A.JONES ]

>> SECOND. >> PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

>> COMMISSIONER COHEN YES, COMMISSIONER HAMMER YES, COMMISSIONER SMITH YES, COMMISSIONER INGALSBE YES, JUDGE

BECERRA YES. >> I-1. DISCUSSION POSSIBLE ACTION REGARDING REQUESTING TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION TO PREPARE AGREEMENT IN ACCORDANCE WITH HB 3697 FROM THE 88 TEXAS LEGISLATIVE SESSION.

>> SO MOVED. >> SECOND.

>> ANYTHING TO ADD? >> NOT REALLY, THE BACKGROUND IS SELF-EXPLANATORY. ERIN MAY HAVE SOMETHING TO ADD.

>> PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. >> COMMISSIONER SMITH YES,

[I.2 Discussion and possible action to adopt a Resolution of Support for the submission to the Capital Area Metropolitan Planning Organization (CAMPO) 2028-2031 grant application for the Call for Projects for the Hays County Sawyer Ranch Road Pedestrian Walkway Project. SMITH/A.JONES ]

>> I 2 DISCUSSION POSSIBLE ACTION TO DISCUSS RESOLUTION OF SUPPORT FOR THE SUBMISSION TO THE CAPITAL AREA METROPOLITAN PLANNING ORGANIZATION 2020 2028-31 GRANT APPLICATIONS CALL FOR PROJECTS FOR THE HAYS COUNTY SAWYER RANCH ROAD PEDESTRIAN

WALKWAY PROJECT. >> SO MOVED .

>> SECOND. >> GREAT IDEA. SPEAK ON THAT.

>> ONE OF THE INITIAL BOND PROJECTS INCLUDED IN THE 2016 TO CONSTRUCT A PORTION OF A PEDESTRIAN PATH, THAT PROJECT WAS COMPLETED IN 2020 I BELIEVE, THIS IS THE SECOND PORTION OF THE WALKWAY INITIALLY INCLUDED IN THE 2020 FOR ROAD BOND AND FOLLOWED AFTER WAS INCLUDED IN OUR TRANSPORTATION PLANNING CERTIFICATES OF OBLIGATION. THIS IS REQUESTING ADDITIONAL ASSISTANCE ON FUNDING FOR THE PROJECT.

[01:35:02]

>> GOOD JOB PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

[I. 3. Discussion and possible action to adopt a Resolution of Support for the submission to the Capital Area Metropolitan Planning Organization (CAMPO) 2028-2031 grant application for the Call for Projects for the Hays County FM 2001 Gap Project. COHEN/A.JONES ]

>> COMMISSIONER COHEN YES, COMMISSIONER INGALSBE YES, COMMISSIONER SMITH YES, COMMISSIONER HAMMER YES, JUDGE

BECERRA YES. >> I 3. DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO ADOPT A RESOLUTION OF SUPPORT FOR THE SUBMISSION TO THE CAPITAL AREA METROPOLITAN PLANNING ORGANIZATION (CAMPO) 2028-2031 GRANT APPLICATION FOR THE CALL FOR PROJECTS FOR THE HAYS COUNTY SAWYER RANCH ROAD

PEDESTRIAN WALKWAY PROJECT. >> SO MOVED.

>> SECOND. >> PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

[I. 4. Discussion and possible action to adopt a Resolution of Support for the submission to the Capital Area Metropolitan Planning Organization (CAMPO) 2028-2031 grant application for the Call for Projects for the Hays County FM 2001 East Project. INGALSBE/A.JONES ]

>> COMMISSIONER SMITH YES, COMMISSIONER INGALSBE YES, COMMISSIONER HAMMER YES, COMMISSIONER COHEN YES, JUDGE

BECERRA YES. >> HI 4.

DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO ADOPT A RESOLUTION OF SUPPORT FOR THE SUBMISSION TO THE CAPITAL AREA METROPOLITAN PLANNING ORGANIZATION (CAMPO) 2028-2031 GRANT APPLICATION FOR THE CALL FOR PROJECTS FOR THE HAYS COUNTY FM 2001 EAST

PROJECT. >> SO MOVED.

>> SECOND. >> WILL YOU EXPLAIN FOR THE VIEWING PUBLIC WHAT THAT MIGHT BE?

>> SO, SIMILAR TO WHAT COMMISSIONER SMITH HAS SAID. WE HOPING TO GET ADDITIONAL FUNDING FOR THIS PROJECT AND SUBMIT THE APPLICATION TO CAMPO, FOR THE FUNDS. IT IS THE 2001 , THE FM 2001 PROJECT, VERY IMPORTANT ARTERIAL ROAD IN THE COUNTY, HOPING FOR SUCCESS , TRY TO DO WHAT I CAN.

>> THANK YOU SO MUCH PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

[I.5. Discussion and possible action to adopt a Resolution of Support for the submission to the Capital Area Metropolitan Planning Organization (CAMPO) 2028-2031 grant application for the Call for Projects for the Hays County Centerpoint Road Project. HAMMER/A.JONES]

>> COMMISSIONER HAMMER YES, COMMISSIONER INGALSBE YES, COMMISSIONER SMITH YES, COMMISSIONER COHEN YES, JUDGE

BECERRA YES. >> PLEASE OPEN I 5.

>> I 5. DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO ADOPT A RESOLUTION OF SUPPORT FOR THE SUBMISSION TO THE CAPITAL AREA METROPOLITAN PLANNING ORGANIZATION (CAMPO) 2028-2031 GRANT APPLICATION FOR THE CALL FOR PROJECTS FOR THE HAYS COUNTY CENTERPOINT ROAD

PROJECT. >> SO MOVED.

>> SECOND. >> THIS IS JUST, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU REMEMBER, BUT THEY DID NOT FUN CONSTRUCTION FOR CENTERPOINT SO THIS IS A GRANT APPLICATION TO GET CONSTRUCTION

FUNDED. >> A MAGNIFICENTLY IMPORTANT ROAD WITH A LOT OF NEW NEIGHBORHOODS IN THAT COMMUNITY AND WE WOULD BENEFIT FROM THIS. THANK YOU COMMISSIONER PLEASE

[I.6. Discussion and possible action to adopt a Resolution of Support and financial commitment for the submission of a grant application to the Federal Railroad Administration (FRA) for the Fiscal Year 2024-2025 Federal-State Partnership for Intercity Passenger Rail Program for the Hays County Centerpoint Crossing Elimination and Safety Project. HAMMER/A.JONES ]

CALL THE ROLL. >> COMMISSIONER INGALSBE YES, COMMISSIONER SMIT YES, COMMISSIONER COHEN YES, COMMISSIONER HAMMER YES, JUDGE BECERRA YES.

>> I-6.

I 6. DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO ADOPT A RESOLUTION OF SUPPORT AND FINANCIAL COMMITMENT FOR THE SUBMISSION OF A GRANT APPLICATION TO THE FEDERAL RAILROAD ADMINISTRATION (FRA) FOR THE FISCAL YEAR 2024-2025 FEDERAL-STATE PARTNERSHIP FOR INTERCITY PASSENGER RAIL PROGRAM FOR THE HAYS COUNTY CENTERPOINT CROSSING ELIMINATION AND SAFETY PROJECT.

>> SO MOVED. >> SECOND.

>> TELL US WHAT THIS WOULD ACCOMPLISH.

>> IT WOULD ACCOMPLISH THE SAME CONSTRUCTIO FOR CENTERPOINT. A COUPLE DIFFERENT GRANTS TO SEE WHERE WE FIT IN WHERE WE GET

APPROVAL. >> PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

[I.7. Discussion and possible action to accept the Subdivision Bond No. 83BSBJK9052 for street and drainage improvements in the amount of $125,956.80 for 6 Creeks Phase 1 Section 16 Subdivision. HAMMER ]

>> COMMISSIONER SMITH YES, COMMISSIONER COHEN YES, COMMISSIONER INGALSBE YES, COMMISSIONER HAMMER YES, JUDGE

BECERRA YES. >> I 7. DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO ACCEPT THE SUBDIVISION BOND NO. 83BSBJK9052 FOR STREET AND DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENTS IN THE AMOUNT OF $125,956.80 FOR 6 CREEKS PHASE 1 SECTION 16

SUBDIVISION. >> SO MOVED.

[I.8. Discussion and possible action to accept the Subdivision Bond No. 83BSBJK9053 for street and drainage improvements in the amount of $53,844.00 for 6 Creeks Phase 1 Section 17 Subdivision. HAMMER ]

>> SECOND. >> PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

>> COMMISSIONER COHEN YES, COMMISSIONER HAMMER YES, COMMISSIONER SMITH YES, COMMISSIONER INGALSBE YES, JUDGE

BECERRA YES. I 8 >> DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO ACCEPT THE SUBDIVISION BOND NO. 83BSBJK9053 FOR STREET AND DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENTS IN THE AMOUNT OF $53,844.00 FOR 6 CREEKS PHASE 1 SECTION 17 SUBDIVISION.

>> SO MOVED. >> PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

[K.3. Discussion and possible action to execute a one-year workers' compensation insurance policy between Hays County and Deep East Texas Self Insurance Fund, in the amount of $698,412.00. BECERRA/GRANJENO/HUNT ]

>> COMMISSIONER HAMMER YES, COMMISSIONER INGALSBE YES, COMMISSIONER SMITH YES, COMMISSIONER COHEN YES, JUDGE

BECERRA YES. >> K 3 DISCUSSION POSSIBLE ACTION TO EXECUTE A ONE-YEAR WORKERS COMPENSATION INSURANCE POLICY BETWEEN HAYS COUNTY AND DEEP EAST TEXAS SELF-INSURANCE

FUND IN THE AMOUNT OF $698,412. >> SO MOVED.

>> SECOND. >> OKAY, WOULD YOU LIKE TO JUST CLARIFY ABOUT THE MONEY AND WHERE IT IS GOING AND HOW THAT'S MOVING FOR JUST A SECOND?

>> I AM ACTUALLY GOING TO HAVE ERIC ADDRESS THE COURT SINCE

THIS IS UNDER WORKERS COMP . >> GOOD MORNING JUDGE IN COMMISSIONERS. HR DIRECTOR, THE MONEY WOULD BE PAID TO DEEP EAST TEXAS SELF-INSURANCE FUND, THE ACTUAL VENDOR WHO WE CURRENTLY HAVE A CONTRACT WITH SO THIS IS RECOMMENDATION TO EXTEND THE POLICY BY ONE YEAR SO THE MONEY WOULD BE PAID DIRECTLY TO THEM

[01:40:04]

>> EXACTLY, THANK YOU FOR THE CLARIFICATION. WITH NO ADDITIONAL OVERLAPPING EXPENSES. ANYTHING ELSE?

>> I HAVE SOMETHING TO ADD. WE DID RFP FOR THIS AND WE WILL BE BRINGING BACK ADMINISTRATION SERVICES AGREEMENT WITH LAVERGNE SO THE WAY THE CONTRACT IS WORKING IS LAVERGNE IS THE INSURANCE AGENT AND THEY PROVIDED DEEP EAST AS WORKERS COMP INSURANCE POLICY. WE ARE EXECUTING THE POLICY WOULD DEEP EAST TO MAKE SURE THERE IS NO LACK OR LAPSE OF INSURANCE FOR WORKERS COMP, BUT WE WILL BE BRINGING BACK ADMINISTRATION SERVICES AGREEMENT ON WHAT THEIR RESPONSIBILITIES ARE, UNDER THE CONTRACT TO PROVIDE TO THE COURT.

>> THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING. >> I DON'T SEE IT IN FRONT OF HERE, JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE PUT EFFECTIVE 1-1.

>> POLICY DOCUMENT AND BACKUPS AS ONE /1.

>> EFFECTIVE 1/1. >> POLICIES 1/1, 26 THROUGH DECEMBER 26 THROUGH DECEMBER 31, 2026.

>> PEOPLE ONLINE DO NOT HAVE A BACKUP, THEY ARE WATCHING SO IT'S NICE TO GIVE THEM THE WHOLE THING. THANK YOU SO MUCH.

REALLY APPRECIATE THE INFORMATION PLEASE CALL THE

ROLL. >> COMMISSIONER INGALSBE YES, COMMISSIONER SMITH YES, COMMISSIONER COHEN YES, COMMISSIONER HAMMER YES, JUDGE BECERRA YES.

>> WHAT IS LEFT IN THE GROUP? SEVEN? FIVE THERE IT IS.

[K. 5. Discussion and possible action to regrade the Transportation Civil Engineer slot 1032-001 grade 127 to grade 130 in order to maintain equity within the salary structure. INGALSBE/A.JONES/GRANJENO ]

DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO REGRADE THE TRANSPORTATION CIVIL ENGINEER SLOT 1032-001 GRADE 127 TO GRADE 130 IN ORDER TO MAINTAIN EQUITY WITHIN THE SALARY STRUCTURE.

>> SO MOVED. >> SECOND.

>> ERIC, BATTER UP. >> HR DIRECTOR, THIS IS RECOMMENDATION TO REGRADE THE CIVIL ENGINEER , STAFF ENGINEER AND TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT TO THE SAME GREAT CIVIL ENGINEER AND SERVICES DEPARTMENT AS PART OF THE FISCAL YEAR 26 BUDGET.

THE ENGINEER POSITION SHOWS THEY WERE BEHIND THE MARKET SO IT WAS APPROVED AS PART OF THE BUDGET TO REGRADE AND SO AT THAT POINT WE DID NOT LOOK AT THE ENGINEERING POSITION SO AT THIS POINT WE ARE RECOMMENDING THE REGRADE OF THAT POSITION TO

MAINTAIN EQUITY . >> SOUNDS GOOD COMMISSIONER.

>> THE ONLY CONCERN I HAVE IS AND I WILL GET SHOT FOR SAYING THIS, BUT I DON'T KNOW WITHIN THE MARKET RIGHT NOW BECAUSE WE DO WITH THESE TERMS ON A DAILY BASIS, I DON'T KNOW IF , I UNDERSTAND YOUR PROVIDING EQUITY WITH THE CIVIL ENGINEER POSITION WITHIN DEVELOPMENT SERVICES, I DON'T KNOW WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO GET A CIVIL ENGINEER IN THE TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT FOR THE SALARY WE ARE ADJUSTING THIS TO, TODAY. HOW LONG DOES

THIS CONDITION APPLY? >> TRANSPORTATION DIRECTOR. WE , IT HAS BEEN OPEN FOR A FEW YEARS. WE HAVE NOT HAD IT POSTED, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE LOOKED AT IN THE PAST MONTH, SINCE I HAVE TAKEN OVER AND LOOKING AT THE POSITION, WE WILL POST AND SEE WHAT THE APPLICANTS WILL GET, IF WE ARE NOT GETTING QUALIFIED APPLICANTS WE CAN COME BACK.

>> THAT IS ALL I AM ASKING. WE HAVE HAD THE POSITION I KNOW FOR AT LEAST SEVEN YEARS AND WE HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO FILL IT.

SPEAKING WITH SOME OF THE PRIVATE FIRMS AT THIS POINT I THINK THEIR STARTING MOST ENGINEERS FRESH OUT OF COLLEGE AT HIGHER THAN THIS LEVEL SO IF WE WANT AN ENGINEER WITH EXPERIENCE I HAVE A CONCERN WE WILL NOT BE ABLE TO GET THEM.

>> I LIKE THE PROCESS YOU HAVE DESCRIBED.

>> WHAT'S THE FISCAL IMPACT FOR THE BUDGET?

>> SCOTT WOODLAND BUDGET OFFICER. THERE IS A FISCAL IMPACT, BUT IT IS COVERED BY SALARY SAVINGS DUE TO VACANCIES

WITHIN THE OFFICE. >> WHAT WOULD IT BE WITHOUT SALARY SAVINGS? FOR FINANCIAL SUSTAINABILITY GOING FORWARD?

>> I BELIEVE JUST SHY OF 15,000 ANNUALLY. YES.

>> WE HAVE NOT HAD THIS POSTED SO WE WANTED TO PUT IT OUT. I KNOW TALKING WITH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES , THEY HAVE A POSITION

[01:45:05]

>> IT IS A GREAT START. ANYTHING ELSE? OKAY WE ARE GOOD. PLEASE

CALL THE ROLL. >> COMMISSIONER COHEN YES, COMMISSIONER HAMMER YES, COMMISSIONER INGALSBE YES, COMMISSIONER SMITH YES, JUDGE BECERRA YES.

>> AARON, I LIKE THE FISCAL STEWARDSHIP YOU ARE CONVEYING AND I APPRECIATE THAT MOST I CANNOT THINK OF THE WORDS HOW GRATEFUL I AM. ELECTED OFFICIALS THAT JUST DO NOT WRITE THE CHECKS WILLY-NILLY ON SALARY CONVERSATIONS OR ANY OTHER KIND MAKES MY HEART GO PITTER PAT BECAUSE PEOPLE STRUGGLE TO PAY THEIR TAX BILLS SO I KNOW THE FEELING AND I AM GRATEFUL YOU

ARE MINDFUL, THANK YOU. >> WE ARE STRUGGLING TO GET TAX

[M.1. Discussion related to the Hays County inmate population, to include current population counts and costs. BECERRA]

WE ARE STRUGGLING TO GET THEIR TAX BILLS PAID.

>> PLEASE OPEN M 1. >> DISCUSSION RELATED TO HAYS COUNTY INMATE POPULATION TO INCLUDE CURRENT POPULATION

COUNTS AND COSTS. >> OKAY. SO, MY JIBBER JABBER , THE JOE CAPACITY REPORTED BY THE SHERIFF IS OUR MAXIMUM CAPACITY OF 464 INMATES AT THE LOCAL COUNTY JAIL, GEL STANDARDS RECOMMEND HOLDING 10% OF THE CAPACITY OPEN WHICH LOWERS CAPACITY AT 417. DAILY AVERAGE WAS 577 AND PEAK WAS 586 ON JANUARY 3. ESTIMATED COST FOR OUTSOURCING INMATES THIS WEEK IS $107,727. THE AVERAGE NUMBER OF OUTSOURCED MALES IS 151 AND FEMALES ARE ZERO. THIS WEEK'S INMATES WERE HOUSED IN HASKELL

[K.7. Discussion and possible action to authorize the execution of a Service Agreement and Product Schedule with Ricoh, USA, Inc. for $240.69 monthly to obtain a printer/copier for the County Administrator's Office, and amend the budget accordingly. BECERRA/BOUTTE/HUNT]

COUNTY PLEASE OPEN. >> K 7. DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION SERVICE AGREEMENT PRODUCT SCHEDULED FOR $240.69 MONTHLY TO OBTAIN A PRINTER COPIER FOR THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATORS OFFICE AND

AMEND THE BUDGET ACCORDINGLY. >> SO MOVED.

>> SECOND. >> IN THAT FISCAL STEWARDSHIP THING, WE SHARE A PRINTER DOES CIVIL DIVISION HAVE A PRINTER?

>> $2400 PER YEAR THAT'S A LOT.

>> CAN THEY SHARE IS THAT A POSSIBILITY?

>> CERTAINLY A POSSIBILITY BUT I WILL SAY STAFF WILL BE GROWING FROM ONE, TO FIVE. SO THERE WILL PROBABLY BE INCREASED COST IF WE ARE UTILIZING THE DA PRINTER AND COPIER BUT WE CAN LOOK INTO IT.

>> AS YOU SHARE A FOOTPRINT, YOU SHERRY DOORWAY AS COMMISSIONER INGALSBE AND I DO, IT IS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO SEE WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE. WE FULLY SUPPORT YOU BUT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE ARE BEING GOOD FISCAL STEWARDS ON THAT FRONT. DON'T YOU AGREE?

>> 240 PER MONTH IS HIGH FOR PRINTER AND COPIER. IT COULD BE

STANDARD, BUT. >> I HAVE SOMETHING TO ADD.

STEPHANIE HUNT PURCHASING AGENT. INCLUDED IN THIS IS ALL THE TONER AND EVERYTHING NEEDED TO RUN SO IT'S NOT JUST THE LEASE IT IS ALSO MAINTENANCE SO IT PAYS FOR MAINTENANCE SO IF ANYTHING GOES WRONG THEY SENT SOMEBODY OUT AND REPAIR IT IF THEY CAN'T REPAIR THEY WILL REPLACE WITH A NEW UNIT, THAT INCLUDES ALL THE TONER FOR THE UNIT SO IF WE ARE RUNNING LOW ON BLACK TONER AUTOMATICALLY AT 20% IT WILL SHIP IT TO US AND THAT IS INCLUDED IN THE FEE. I APPROVED OFFICE DEPOT ORDER $200 FOR THE TONER FOR A STANDALONE PIECE OF PRINTER IN A OFFICE NOT ON ONE OF THE LEASES. SO THERE IS VALUE IN 240 NOT JUST THE MACHINE WE ARE GETTING. IF WE DO ADD IT TO ANYBODY ELSE'S CURRENT LEASE YOU ARE LOCKED IN ON HOW MANY BLACK AND WHITE COPIES YOU CAN MAKE AND HOW MANY COLOR COPIES YOU CAN MAKE BASED OFF WHEN WE GOT THE COPIER. SO FOR INSTANCE THE JUDGE FILLED OUT A SURVEY, THIS IS HOW MANY COPIES YOU CURRENTLY USE AND WE ALLOTTED A CERTAIN AMOUNT PER MONTH SO IF YOU GO OVER WE PAY ADDITIONAL FEES FOR THE OVERAGE. YOUR LEASE IS BUILT INTO THE DOLLAR AMOUNT SO IF WE LOOP THEM IN TO YOUR LEASE OR THE DA IT COULD PUSH THEM OVER EVERY QUARTER WHERE THEY HAVE TO PAY

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>> THE NEXT TO EACH OTHER. >> WE CAN LOOK AT THAT IF THAT'S THE OPTION YOU WANT TO GO WITH, IF THEY SHARE WE WILL MAKE SURE WE ACCOUNT FOR THE ADDITIONAL COPIES THAT THEY ARE

POTENTIALLY -- >> CURIOUS TO SEE HOW FAR AWAY

THEY ARE FROM USE CAPACITY. >> I WOULD LIKE TO RUN SOME ANALYSIS OR REPORT, IF WE ARE SPENDING 2880 EVERY YEAR ON EACH OFFICE HAVING THEIR OWN PRINTER OR COPIER ARE WE GETTING BANG FOR THE BUCK LIKE WHAT DOES IT LOOK LIKE?

>> OUR REP IS PULLING EVERYBODY'S USAGE NOW SO WE CAN SEE ARE THEY GOING OVER CONSISTENTLY SO WE NEED TO UP THE LIMIT OR ARE THEY UNDER UTILIZING SO WE CAN LOWER. I DON'T PAY 240 ON MINE, MINE IS CHEAPER BECAUSE I DON'T USE IT AS OFTEN. BECAUSE CANDACE DOES NOT REALLY HAVE USAGE HISTORY WE ARE GAUGING WHAT SHE THINKS SHE WILL POTENTIALLY PRINT . SO NOT EVERYBODY PAYS THIS AMOUNT, EVERYBODY IS DIFFERENT.

>> DOES THAT INCLUDE PAY FOR? >> NO WE PAY FOR OUR OWN PAPER.

>> MARISOL. >> CAN I SAY THIS? IF THE COURT FEELS COMFORTABLE WE CAN LOOK AT A LOWER COST OPTION. AS STEPHANIE INDICATED IT WAS JUST AN ESTIMATE OR WE GO UP TO OR BE WELL BELOW THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL AND A NOTE ABOUT SHARING WITH THE CIVIL DIVISION JUST BECAUSE CONFIDENTIALITY ISSUES, THEY MAY NOT FEEL AS COMFORTABLE SHARING THAT PRINTER BECAUSE OF DIFFERENT PEOPLE DOCUMENTS SO I WANTED TO PUT IT OUT THERE THERE MAY BE ANOTHER DEPARTMENT THAT CAN SHARE PRINTERS AND WE ARE OPEN TO THAT. THE UP TO MOUNT WITH THE UNDERSTANDING WE GO THE BEST LOW OPTION WE WOULD LOOK AT THAT IF THE COURT IS AMENABLE.

>> THEIR ISSUES SOMETIMES WHEN WE HAVE ONE COPIER IN THE INTERIOR PRECINCT 4 BUILDING AND AT TIMES WE HAVE TWO YEARS IT.

T IS LOCATED IN THE JP'S OFFICE, IN DOING SO WE HAVE TO ENSURE THERE IS NO CASE FILES OR LEGAL DOCUMENTS RELATED TO IT,

THEY HAVE TO BRING IT TO US . >> THERE IS A WAY ON ALL THE COPIERS TO DO A SECURE PRINT. SO EVERYBODY CAN HAVE THE OPTION FROM THEIR COMPUTER WHEN THEY PRINT AND THEN YOU PUT IN A CODE ON THE COPIER AND IT DOES NOT PRINT OUT THE DOCUMENTS UNTIL YOU'RE STANDING IN FRONT OF THE COPIER SO IT HAS A LOT OF FEATURES UTILIZED BY SOME DEPARTMENTS THAT NEED IT, NOT

OTHERS. >> THANK YOU FOR THE TIDBIT.

>> I WANTED TO MAKE A NOTE THAT WE WOULD NEED TO KNOW HOW TO ALLOCATE THE EXPENSE BETWEEN THE OFFICES EITHER BY THE USAGE COUNT AND COMPARE THAT PERCENTAGE OF USAGE AND ALLOCATE MONTHLY FEE BECAUSE THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR IS IN ADMINISTRATIVE BUDGET AND THEN THE DA CIVIL DIVISION IS UNDER A JUDICIAL FUNCTION SO I DO HAVE TO ALLOCATE THE EXPENSE SO WE DO THAT WITH OTHER ITEMS LIKE THE PHONE BILL WE HAVE TO GO IN AND ALLOCATE THAT EXPENDITURE BY THE DIFFERENT EQUIPMENT BY THE DIFFERENT OFFICE AND THEN ALLOCATE TO THE EXPENDITURES AND THEN THAT AFFECTS THE BUDGET SO WE WILL PUT IN MORE HOURS TRACKING THESE ITEMS I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THERE IS ADDITIONAL CAUSE FOR MY EMPLOYEES WHICH IS WHAT WE WILL DO IF THE COURT APPROVES BUT IT IS THE ADMINISTERED OF COST ALLOCATING EXPENDITURES ACROSS THE DIFFERENT FUNCTIONS WHICH IS

REQUIRED. >> MY APOLOGIES I THINK IT'S SAFE TO STEP OUT AND GET A RESTROOM BREAK.

>> IT ALL STARTED BECAUSE THE NEW POSITIONING OF THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR IS NEXT TO YOU AND THERE'S A SHARED DOOR AND COMMISSIONER AND I SHARE A PRINTER SO THE IDEA CAME ABOUT COMMISSIONER HEMMER AGREED WAS A BUNCH OF MONEY AND I DO SHARE IT

. >> THAT'S FAIR ENOUGH WHILE WE LOVE CANDACE TO DEATH NOT DOING SECURE PRINT ON THE PRINTER I THINK I COULD SPEAK FOR BOTH SUPERVISORS WHEN THEY SAY ACCESS TO THE OFFICE IS NOT GOOD NOTHING TOWARD CANDACE SO I

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GIVE ACCESS TO THE CASE FILES. >> I WOULD FEEL COMFORTABLE MOVING FORWARD IF WE COULD BRING A DEPORT -- REPORT WITH THE PRINTER USAGE AND EVERY THING BEFORE EVERY 24TH EVERY 24TH COURT DATE AND PUT IT ON FEBRUARY 24, FOR THE AGENDA

ITEM. >> DO YOU WANT TO THE HISTORY OF

THE CURRENT ? >> JUST A REPORT LIKE YOU SAID THE REPRESENTATIVE PULLING THE REPORTS TO SEE IF WE CAN DECREASE TO HAVE AN EVALUATION. MAYBE WE COULD REDUCE THE COST

OVERALL. >> WE WILL UTILIZE THE REPORT FOR THE NEW LEASES , BUT I CAN SEND IT TO YOU GUYS, SEE YOU CAN SEE WHERE EACH OFFICE IS AT SO WHEN WE PROPOSE WE WANT TO BRING THE NEW LEASE BACK TO THE COURT SO I COULD SEND IT TO YOU, TO REVIEW IT BUT THAT WOULD BE LIKE WE WILL UTILIZE THAT REPORT TO SAY HEY ALSO FOR SERVICE, FOR ME WHEN IT COMES TIME I DON'T HAVE ISSUES WITH MY COPIER SO I WON'T GIVE UP MY CURRENT , WE CAN GO MONTHLY BECAUSE SOME OF THESE WERE SIGNED FIVE YEARS AGO FOR NATURAL COST INCREASE FROM WHEN WE GOT IT FIVE YEARS AGO WILL BE MORE THIS YEAR, BUT LIKE THE AUDITOR I KNOW SHE HAS HAD A LOT OF ISSUES LIKE SERVICE ISSUES ON HER COPIER AND THEIR OTHER FEATURES SHE NEEDS TO ADD SO WE WILL GET A NEW COPIER FOR HER BUT NOT EVERY DEPARTMENT NECESSARILY NEEDS A NEW COPIER BUT THAT IS A ANALYTICAL PIECE OF IT AND I WILL LOOK TO SAY YOU HAVE NOT HAD ONE SERVICE CALL ON THIS, WE CAN REDUCE SO THE RECOMMENDATION IS TO STAY IN THE CURRENT LEASE AND REDUCE THE COPIES AND THAT WAY HOPEFULLY SAVING COUNTY MONEY IN SOME ASPECTS BUT WE HAVE THE INCREASE ON OTHERS. I CAN DEFINITELY FORWARD THAT IF YOU WANT ME TO PLACE THE AGENDA ITEM.

>> IF WE SEE THE REPORT AND IT IS CRAZY THEN MAYBE, I KNOW THAT SOUNDS SILLY BUT EVERY DOLLAR SAVED. WE DO THIS CONSTANTLY.

>> PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. >> COMMISSIONER HAMMER YES, COMMISSIONER COHEN YES, COMMISSIONER SMITH YES, COMMISSIONER INGALSBE YES, JUDGE BECERRA YES.

[M.2. Discussion and possible action related to the burn ban. BECERRA]

>> DID WE LEAVE ANY LOOSE ITEMS? GOING TO EXECUTIVE? PLEASE OPEN.

>> CAN WE OPEN M 2? >> M 2.

>> DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION RELATED TO THE BIRD BAN.

>> I WANT TO OPEN TO DISCUSS , WE ARE GOING TO BE TALKING IN THE NEXT COURT SESSION WHAT'S GOING ON , A HUGE TOPIC OF CONVERSATION WITHIN MY PRECINCT OF WILL THE BURN BAN WITH ALL THE FIREWORKS AND ALL THOSE THINGS JUST WANTED TO REITERATE BECAUSE PEOPLE WATCH AND THEY DON'T HEAR US TALKING ABOUT

THIS. >> DO YOU MIND SPENDING A FEW SECONDS ABOUT WHAT WILL HAPPEN MOVING FORWARD, IF ANYTHING AT

ALL? >> WHAT ARE THE CURRENT

CONDITIONS? >> CURRENTLY WE HAVE NOT HAD THAT MUCH AND WHILE WE MISSED THE OPPORTUNITY TO PUT A BAN THAT IS NOW IN THE CALENDAR AND WE WILL MAKE SURE WE WON'T BE INUNDATED WITH DISCUSSION OVER THE HOLIDAYS. WE WANT PEOPLE TO HAVE FUN OF COURSE BUT CONSEQUENTLY WE WILL REQUEST THE BURN BAN GO FORWARD AND AS YOU EXPERIENCE COMMISSIONER, WE PUT ON THE BURN BAN PEOPLE WANT TO BURN ANYWAY SO THEY MISSED THE CONVERSATION. IT IS A LOT LESS TODAY THAN IT WAS SEVERAL YEARS AGO WHEN THEY WERE BURNING. WITHOUT PERMISSION.

>> GOOD. I KNOW IT SOUNDS CONFUSING TO FOLKS THAT WE PUT A BURN BAN IN PLACE AND IT IS DRIZZLING THAT DOES NOT QUITE COVER THE MOISTURE BEING ON THE GROUND AND EVERYTHING ELSE AND WE HAVE TRAINED AND QUALIFIED PROFESSIONALS THAT GUIDE THIS

[EXECUTIVE SESSIONS]

>> WANT TO REITERATE THE BURN BAN IS ON.

>> IT IS ON PLEASE OPEN ALMAC WINS.

>> EXECUTIVE SESSION .

EXECUTIVE SESSION PURSUANT TO SECTION 551.071 AND SECTION 551.072 OF THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE: CONSULTATION WITH COUNSEL AND DELIBERATION REGARDING THE PURCHASE, EXCHANGE, LEASE AND/OR

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