Oct 01, 2024 Regular

>> YES. >> COMMISSIONER SHELL.

>> YES. >> AND JUDGE BECERRA.

>> YES. >> MOST WILL GO TO COMMERCIAL.

YOU MAY NOT SEE THE STANCE EVERYWHERE THAT YOU WOULD SEE

[K.3. Discussion and possible action to identify programming services related to the Hays County Pet Resource, Education, and Research Center for contract negotiations and identify funding. BECERRA/INGALSBE]

THEM DURING A REGULAR HOLIDAY BUT I JUST WANTED TO MAKE THAT

CLARIFICATION. >> PLEASE OPEN K3.

>> K3. DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO IDENTIFY PROGRAMMING SERVICES RELATED TO THE HAYS COUNTY PET RESOURCE, EDUCATION, AND RESEARCH CENTER FOR CONTRACT NEGOTIATIONS AND

IDENTIFY FUNDING. >> WE ARE COMING TO A NEED TO MOVE FOR THIS ITEM. WE NEED TO GET THIS OVER THE HUMP BECAUSE IT IS IMPORTANT WE BRING THIS TO A CLOSE.

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>> COMMISSIONER INGALSBE? >> I WOULD LIKE TO TURN IT OVER TO STEPHANIE. I AM NOT SURE IF YOU ALL HAVE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW THE PACKET THAT WAS SENT. IT WAS SENT YESTERDAY LATE. IT IS QUITE A BIT OF INFORMATION, BUT I WILL LET STEPHANIE HANDLE THE CONVERSATION.

>> STEPHANIE HUNT. SO I DID SEND YOU GUYS ALL OF THE BREAKDOWN OF ALL OF THE PROGRAMMING. IT WAS PRESENTED IN THE PROPOSAL WE RECEIVED FOR RFP 2020 4P 10 AND THE PRICING ASSOCIATED WITH EACH OF THE PRICING. SO THE FIRST, IT IS KIND OF HARD TO DISCUSS THIS BECAUSE WE CANNOT RELEASE PRICING ON ANY OF THAT INFORMATION BECAUSE WE ARE IN CONTRACT NEGOTIATIONS AT THE LAST COURT MEETING . WE TALKED ABOUT IT AND WE WANTED TO SEE A BREAKDOWN OF THE PROPOSED PROGRAMMING AND THE PRICING. SO IT IS REALLY -- WE ARE LOOKING FROM GUIDANCE FROM YOU GUYS AS FAR AS WHAT THE COURT WANTS TO MOVE FORWARD WITH AND US INCLUDING THAT IN THE CONTRACT NEGOTIATIONS ON TOP OF KNOWING THAT WE NEED TO LOOK FOR A PLAN AND A BUILDING AND THAT TYPE OF THING.

>> AND THANK YOU FOR RECAPPING THAT KIND OF STUFF, BECAUSE YOU ARE RIGHT. I BELIEVE THE BEST WAY TO APPROACH THIS IS -- YOU BROUGHT IT IN JUST PERFECTLY. TWO SEPARATE THINGS. ONE IS THE PROGRAMS AND ONE IS THE GOVERNMENT JOB OF LOCATING BRICK-AND-MORTAR LOCATIONS. WHAT I LIKE TO DO IS, THE MORE I LEARN THE MORE I KNOW LESS. THE MORE I REALIZE HOW LITTLE I KNOW. SO WHAT I LIKE TO DO IS ASK LEANNE IF SHE WOULD NOT MIND COMING UP AND JUST HIGHLIGHTING MAYBE SOME GOALS WITHOUT TALKING DOLLARS ABOUT TEARING OUR PROCESS BECAUSE WE NEED TO CONTINUE WHAT WE ARE DOING. WE HAVE SOME GREAT PROGRESS. WE HAVE INVESTED A LOT OF TIME AND ENERGY INTO THIS. AND IT NEEDS TO CONTINUE IN A WAY THAT IS USEFUL TO THE

COMMUNITY. >> THANK YOU. I HAVE A POWERPOINT. I DON'T KNOW IF WE HAVE THOSE SLIDES.

>> DO YOU HAVE IT ON A FLASH? >> I DO.

>> LIKE JOE PESCI SAYS, WE HAVE THESE UTES THAT CAN DO IT IN A SECOND.

>> THANK YOU. LEANNE SHENFELL. THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE AND GRACE IN GETTING THAT UP ON THE SCREEN. AS JUDGE BECERRA MENTIONED, I THINK IT IS HELPFUL TO PROVIDE SOME CONTEXT FOR THE COST BREAKDOWN THAT YOU ALL HAVE RECEIVED. SO I WANTED TO GIVE A QUICK OVERVIEW OF HOW WE GOT TO THIS POINT. IT IS A RESULT OF OVER TWO YEARS OF WORK BY MULTIPLE ORGANIZATIONS.

IF YOU THINK BACK TO 2022, A FEASIBILITY STUDY WAS COMMISSIONED FROM TEAM SHELTER USA AND ANIMAL ARTS TO ADDRESS THE QUESTION OF HOW HAYS COUNTY COULD BEST MEET THE BURGEONING DEMAND FOR ANIMAL SERVICES IN THIS RAPIDLY GROWING COMMUNITY, ALSO KNOWING THAT THE CURRENT REGIONAL SHELTERING SYSTEM LIES BEING OVERWHELMED. SO THE FEASIBILITY STUDY IS QUITE LENGTHY. BUT IT GAVE A SERIES OF GENERAL RECOMMENDATION THAT MADE IT CLEAR THAT BUILDING A SHELTER ALONE IS NOT ENOUGH.

THERE IS NO SHELTER BIG ENOUGH IN ANY COMMUNITY THAT CAN BE

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BUILT TO ACCOMMODATE ALL PETS THAT ARE AT RISK. AND IT ALSO RECOMMENDED NINE DESIGN PRINCIPLES TO BE CONSIDERED IN DEVELOPING AN ANIMAL WELFARE SYSTEM. AND THE SYSTEM WORD IS KEY FOR, I THINK, THE CHALLENGE THAT WE ARE TRYING TO SOLVE HERE TODAY. THE PRINCIPLES ARE KIND OF WIDE-RANGING. BUT THEY SPEAK TO THINGS, SUCH AS THE IMPORTANCE OF THE SHELTER.

BALANCING PUBLIC SAFETY AND LIFE-SAVING PRIORITIES. IT TALKED ABOUT THE IMPORTANCE OF DEVELOPING A SYSTEM THAT ADDRESSES THE NEEDS OF BOTH PEOPLE AND PETS. IT MAKES CLEAR THAT THE SHELTER -- SO AND TAKEN TO A SHELTER -- SHOULD BE THE LAST RESORT FOR A PET IN NEED AND THE TEMPS SHOULD FIRST BE MADE TO TRY TO CARE FOR THAT PET IN THE COMMUNITY WITH THE APPROPRIATE RESOURCES. IT ALSO DISCUSSES THE NEED TO TAKE INTO ACCOUNT ACCESS TO CARE. AS A DRIVER FOR SHELTER INTAKE, AS MOST PET OWNERS CARE AND LOVE FOR THEIR PET BUT OFTEN FACE ECONOMIC OR OTHER CONSTRAINTS IN ACCESSING THE CARE NECESSARY FOR PETS. IT ALSO TALKS ABOUT THE IMPORTANCE OF UTILIZING BEST PRACTICES AND DEVELOPING ANIMAL WELFARE PROGRAMS AND IN USING CURRENT RESEARCH AND A DATA-DRIVEN APPROACH TO DETERMINING THE PROGRAMS AND RESOURCES THAT ARE NEEDED FOR THE SHELTER SYSTEM. RESULTS HAVE SIGNIFICANT EMPHASIS ON THE NEED TO BE PROACTIVE AND PROVIDING UPSTREAM INTERVENTIONS TO PREVENT SHELTER INTAKE AND THE NEED FOR DEVELOPING A ROBUST COMMUNITY FOSTER-BASED SYSTEM AS WE KNOW FROM SEVERAL RECENT STUDIES THAT HOUSING PETS LONG-TERM IN THE SHELTER IS BOTH COSTLY AND ARGUABLY NOT IN THE BEST INTEREST OF PETS. THANK YOU. SO THAT IS LARGELY IN PART BECAUSE THE TRADITIONAL ANIMAL SHELTER MODEL THAT IS IN PLACE IN MOST COMMUNITIES WAS NEVER -- WAS NOT CREATED WITH THE DEMANDS THAT WE PLACE ON IT IN MIND. THE PERSONAL SHELTERING SYSTEM IS WELL OVER 100 YEARS AT THIS POINT AND WAS ADDRESSED TO CONSIDER THE VERY REAL PUBLIC SAFETY CONCERN OF RABIES. SO THE INTENT WAS PURELY TO PICK UP STRAY ANIMALS IN THE STREET.

AND THERE WAS NO THOUGHT GIVEN TO CARING FOR THOSE ANIMALS LONG-TERM AND FINDING LIFE-SAVING OUTCOMES. HOWEVER, AS EXPECTATIONS OF OUR COMMUNITIES HAS EVOLVED, THE RELATIONSHIPS THAT PEOPLE HAD WITH THEIR PETS HAS INCREASED IN IMPORTANCE. OUR COMMUNITIES EXPECT LOCAL GOVERNMENT TO VALUE PETS AS MUCH AS THEY DO. SO WE ARE SEEING RECORD LIFE-SAVING AND CHARGES ACROSS THE COUNTRY, INCLUDING IN OUR COMMUNITY, BUT THAT HAS NOT COME WITHOUT A COST. OUR LOCAL SHELTER SYSTEMS ARE OVERBURDENED BECAUSE THEY ARE OFTEN THE ONLY PLACE FOR PETS IN NEED IN THE COMMUNITY TO GET HELP. AND THAT OFTEN REQUIRES OWNERS TO SURRENDER THEIR PETS TO THE SHELTER THEY CANNOT AFFORD APPROPRIATE CARE. OR THEY ARE EXPERIENCING A TEMPORARY CRISIS IN WHICH THEY CANNOT PROVIDE CARE FOR THEIR PETS. THAT ALSO CREATES PART OF WHAT CONTRIBUTES TO THE ONGOING CYCLE OF COMPLAINTS AND DISTRUST BETWEEN COMMUNITY MEMBERS, DECISION-MAKERS, AND SHELTERS. BECAUSE OUR SHELTERS ARE JUST NOT RESOURCED TO DO WHAT OUR COMMUNITY EXPECTS FROM THEM. SO, IN APRIL 2023, AUSTIN PETS ALIVE RECEIVED THE CONTRACT TO SERVICE THE CONTRACT COORDINATOR FOR CREATING RECOMMENDATIONS AND PLANS TO IMPLEMENT THE PET RESOURCE CENTER MODEL FOR HAYS COUNTY. AND, SO, OUR TASK WAS TO TAKE THE GENERAL RECOMMENDATIONS, WHICH ARE ROOTED IN BEST PRACTICES, SUPPORTED BY NEARLY ALL NATIONAL ANIMAL WELFARE ORGANIZATIONS IN THIS COUNTRY, TO DETERMINE THE PROGRAMS AND THE RESOURCES AND AT WHAT SCALE AND HOW THEY SHOULD BE DELIVERED TO IMPLEMENT THIS MODEL. SO THAT PET RESOURCE CENTER, WHICH IS -- WAS THE SUGGESTION FROM THAT STUDY HAD THREE COMPONENTS. AND THAT FEASIBILITY STUDY MAKE CLEAR THAT EACH OF THOSE COMPONENTS IS AN IMPORTANT PIECE IF WHAT WE ARE HOPING TO DO IS NOT RE-CREATE A SHELTER SYSTEM THAT

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HAS TO CLOSE DOORS IN ORDER TO CONTROL INTAKE AND LEAVE PETS AND PEOPLE IN NEED TO FIGURE OUT FOR THEMSELVES HOW TO RESOLVE THEIR ISSUES. SO THAT RESOURCE CENTER MODEL INCLUDES A SMALLER SCALE RIGHT-SIZED SHELTER. IT MAKES THE ARGUMENT THAT TAKING RESOURCES THAT ORDINARILY WOULD BE DIRECTED AT BUILDING AND OPERATING A LARGER SCALE ADOPTION CENTER AND PUTTING THOSE INTO THE COMMUNITY TO INTERRUPT THE INTAKE CYCLE IS A BETTER INVESTMENT. IT ALSO REQUIRES A LARGE INVESTMENT IN THOSE COMMUNITY-FACING PROGRAMS AS WELL AS INCREASING ACCESS TO RESOURCES THAT COMMUNITY RESIDENTS NEED TO KEEP THEIR PETS SAFELY AT HOME. I WANT TO EMPHASIZE THAT THE LAST TWO COMPONENTS ARE CRITICAL BECAUSE THEY INCREASE THE CAPACITY OF THE COMMUNITY TO SAFELY AND HUMANELY CARE FOR PETS AND KEEP THEM OUT OF THE SHELTER.

WITHOUT THOSE PETS IN NEED, THEY HAVE NO PLACE OTHER TO GO AGAIN THE SHELTER. WHEN IT IS THE ONLY PLACE TO GET HELP, THE SHELTER BECOMES VERY FULL OVER QUICKLY. OR SHELTERS ARE FACED WITH THE OPTION OF CLOSING INTAKE. IT HAS LONG BEEN OUR RECOMMENDATION THAT PROGRAMMING SHOULD BE STARTED PRIOR TO THE NEW SHELTER BEING OPENED TO HELP GET INFORMATION, RESOURCES, AND SUPPORT TO THE COMMUNITY AND REDUCE THE POPULATION OF PETS IN HAYS COUNTY THAT IS AT RISK OF ENTERING THE SHELTER SYSTEM. THAT HELPS BRING RELIEF TO THE REGIONAL SHELTER NOW AND WILL ENABLE THE NEW SHELTER TO FUNCTION AS IT IS INTENDE WHEN IT OPENS. I WOULD ARGUE THAT THESE ARE NOT NICE TO HAVE. WITHOUT THEM, YOU ARE THROWING GOOD MONEY AT A BAD IDEA. OKAY. AGAIN, TO SORT OF SUMMARIZE THAT PET RESOURCES MODEL, IT DECENTRALIZES THE ROLE OF THE SHELTER IN THE COMMUNITY. THAT FOCUSES ON BUILDING COLLABORATIVE RELATIONSHIPS WITH OTHER COMMUNITY GROUPS TO CREATE A CONTINUUM OF CARE. SO WITH THE ACKNOWLEDGMENT THAT WE -- WHERE PEOPLE SUFFER, PETS SUFFER, AND VICE VERSA. SO THAT IS THE COMPONENT THAT ALLOWS THOSE UPSTREAM INTERVENTIONS AND ALLOWS THAT CYCLE OF UPTAKE. I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT ONE OF THE THINGS WE ARE LEARNING IN THIS FIELD IS THAT THE SIMPLE DICHOTOMY OF GOOD OWNER VERSUS BAD PET OWNER IS NOT TRUE. THERE IS A VERY COMPLEX SYSTEM OF HUMAN-RELATED NEEDS THAT DRIVE INTAKE, AND THAT IS WHAT THIS SYSTEM ALLOWS US TO ADDRESS. IT PRIORITIZES PET REUNIFICATION AND REDUCES INTAKE INTO THE SHELTER AND ONCE PETS ARE THERE REDUCE THAT LENGTH OF STAY. AND IT IS A BETTER AND MORE EFFICIENT USE OF RESOURCES. OUR SHELTERS ARE IN CRISIS ACROSS THE COUNTRY BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE IN CRISIS. ONE OF OUR PARTNERS THAT WE HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH OVER THE LAST SEVERAL MONTHS IS THE CENTRAL TEXAS FOOD BANK. MANY OF YOU ARE PROBABLY FAMILIAR WITH THE NEEDS ASSESSMENT THAT CAME OUT. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT IS STRIKING TO ME IN LOOKING AT THEIR FOOD INSECURITY MAP IS IN SOME WAYS IT LOOKS SIMILAR TO THE ANIMAL CONTROL VOLUME MAP. SO, AGAIN, NO SURPRISE THAT WHERE PEOPLE ARE IN NEED, PETS ARE IN NEED AND VICE VERSA. THIS PAST WEEKEND, WE PARTICIPATED IN ANOTHER CO-DISTRIBUTION EVENT WITH THE FOOD SHELTER AND SERVED A RECORD NUMBER OF DOGS.

SO OVER 150 FAMILIES CAME THROUGH AND WE DISTRIBUTED FOOD TO SUPPORT THEIR CARE OF 275 DOGS AND 138 . SO THERE IS SIGNIFICANT NEED FOR ADDITIONAL RESOURCES IN THIS COMMUNITY.

THE PET RESOURCE MODEL ALSO FOCUSES -- IT REALLY FOCUSES TO AVOID THAT SHELTER INTAKE BIAS. IT IS A SYSTEM PROMOTED ON BUILDING TRUST AND COLLABORATION WITH PET OWNERS THROUGH EMPHASIZING ACCESS TO CARE AND SAFETY RESOURCES. AS WE WERE WORKING THROUGH THAT CONTRACT, YOU ALL APPROVED A MISSION AND VISION STATEMENT LAST YEAR THAT SUPPORTED THE TENANTS IN THE PET RESOURCE MODEL EMPHASIZING CONNECTING THE COMMUNITY WITH RESOURCES AND TRUSTING THEM TO CARE FOR THEIR PETS WITH A LITTLE BIT OF HELP. IN DECEMBER, WE PRESENTED THE RESULTS OF THE COMMUNITY NEEDS AND VALUES SURVEY. AND WE

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TALKED TO THOSE SURVEYED RESULTS. BUT, AGAIN, THIS WAS A LARGE PART OF WHAT DROVE THE FINAL RECOMMENDATIONS IN OUR RESPONSE TO THE PROPOSAL. IT WAS THE RESULTS OF OUR COMMUNITY SURVEY AND AN ANALYSIS OF AVAILABLE DATA FROM OUR COMMUNITY ANIMAL SERVICES PARTNERS. WE HELD COMMUNITY MEETINGS AT LEAST ONCE. SO WE CHECKED PRECINCTS AND TALKED TO A NUMBER OF STAKEHOLDER GROUPS TO GET THEIR PERSPECTIVE ON ANIMAL WELFARE CHALLENGES AND NEEDS FOR THE COMMUNITY. IT IS IMPORTANT THAT WHATEVER DIRECTION IS TAKEN REFLECTS THE VALUES AND THE NEEDS THAT THE COMMUNITY IS SHARING WITH US.

>> AND, LEANNE, CAN YOU REMIND ME HOW MANY PEOPLE ATTENDED, AGAIN, THE PRESENTATIONS YOU WILL HAVE TO OUT THE COMMUNITY?

>> I WOULD SAY PROBABLY ABOUT 100 PEOPLE TOTAL, BETWEEN ALL THE COMMUNITY MEETINGS. WE HAVE RECEIVED OVER 1000 RESPONSES TO THE COMMUNITY SURVEY. THE ADVISORY THAT WE WORKED WITH TO PUT THAT TOGETHER SET A GOAL OF ABOUT 360. SO SHE WAS BLOWN AWAY BY THE AMOUNT OF RESPONSE AND OF THE SORT OF SIGNIFICANCE OR THE CONFIDENCE WITH WHICH WE COULD DRAW SOME CONCLUSIONS FROM THOSE RESPONSES. AND SO REALLY WHAT CAME OUT OF ALL OF THOSE CONVERSATIONS AND LOOKING AT THE DATA POINTS AND CONSIDERING PROVEN PRACTICES, THERE IS AN OVERWHELMING NEED FOR COMMUNITY PROGRAMS AND RESOURCES IN HAYS COUNTY TO GET PETS BACK HOME AGAIN. KEEP THEM OUT OF THE -- EXCUSE ME -- KEEP THEM OUT OF THE SHELTER AND KEEP THEM WITH THEIR FAMILIES.

WE HEARD HOW MUCH RESIDENTS VALUE THEIR PETS. I THOUGHT IT WAS STRIKING IN ALL THE PROCLAMATIONS THIS MORNING. ALL OF THOSE HAVE PET ASPECTS AS WELL. PETS ARE KEY TO HELPING FOLKS THROUGH DEPRESSION WHEN THEY ARE DEALING WITH MEDICAL EMERGENCIES. WE KNOW THAT PEOPLE STAY AND DANGEROUS DOMESTIC SITUATIONS OUT OF CONCERN FOR THEIR PETS. WE KNOW THE FOLKS WHO ARE EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS WILL SOMETIMES NOT GO INTO HOUSING IF THEY CAN'T BRING THEIR PETS WITH THEM. SO ALL THOSE HUMAN THINGS WE TALKED ABOUT THIS MORNING ALSO HAVE A PET ASPECT TO THEM AND SUPPORTING THOSE PET OWNERS GETS US CLOSER TO GETTING BETTER OUTCOMES FOR THOSE INDIVIDUALS. WE HEARD A LOT ABOUT THE CONCERN ABOUT OVERPOPULATION AT THE SAN MARCO'S REGIONAL SHELTER.

THERE WERE CONCERNS ABOUT THERE BEING A CENTRAL PLACE FOR THE COUNTY TO GET INFORMATION ABOUT THE AVAILABLE RESOURCS AND WHAT ACTION TO TAKE FOR PETS IN NEED AND SIGNIFICANT RESOURCES FOR A PET CENTER. THE TOP THREE RESOURCES FOLKS SAID THAT THEY WANTED TO SEE MORE OF WAS, NOT PARTICULARLY SURPRISING, BUT MORE LOW COST SPAY NEUTER, MORE ACCESS TO AFFORDABLE VET CARE, AND ACCESS TO MICROCHIPS. THERE WAS ALSO A SIGNIFICANT NEED FOR BILINGUAL EDUCATIONAL MATERIALS ABOUT PET CARE AND DOG TRAINING THAT DO NOT RISE OUT OF THE TOP THREE BUT WAS SIGNIFICANT FOR A CERTAIN POPULATION OF RESPONDENTS. SO ALL THAT CULMINATED IN THE RECOMMENDATIONS WE MADE AT THE CONCLUSION OF THE FIRST 12 MONTHS OF OUR CONTRACT. AND I THINK THAT THIS IS WHERE WE REALLY NEED TO PROBABLY FOCUS THE CONVERSATION. THE WAY WE ORIGINALLY PRESENTED THESE WAS ON A FOUR-YOUR TIMELINE. THAT WITH THE TIMELINE SET FORTH IN THE FEASIBILITY STUDY. HOWEVER, WE ALSO SAID THAT THESE WERE NOT TIME BOUND. THE IMPORTANT PART IS THAT ALL THESE PLAY INTO THAT PET RESOURCE CENTER ANIMAL WELFARE SYSTEM THAT WE TALKED ABOUT. SO IT IS IMPORTANT THAT ALL THESE PROGRAMS AND RESOURCES EXIST IF WE ARE TO GET THE PROGRAMS THAT WE DESIRE, BUT THERE ARE SOME IN TERMS OF AVAILABLE RESOURCES IN TERMS OF TIMELINES.'S OF THE TIME I CAN STRETCH OUT. THE IMPORTANT PART IS JUST THAT THEY ARE ALL APPROPRIATELY SCALED AT SOME POINT. TO THE CENTER SECTION. THIS IS WHAT WE ACCOMPLISHED UNDER THE FIRST CONTRACT. AND THE SECOND GREEN G NOW, WHICH WOULD BE FULLY REALIZING THAT VIRTUAL RESOURCE CENTER MODEL THAT WE ARE WORKING OFF OF. SO PRIORITIZING A LOST AND FOUND. PROGRAMMING. WE KNOW THAT THE MAJORITY OF

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PETS COMING FROM HAYS COUNTY ARE ENTERING AS SPRAYS AND ONCE THEY GET THERE THEY DO NOT GO HOME AGAIN. BUT ONCE THEY GET THERE WE KNOW THEY HAVE SOME CONNECTION TO SOME FAMILIES THAT ARE PRESUMABLY MISSING THEM. AND PRIORITIZING GETTING THEM BACK HOME AGAIN REDUCES THAT LENGTH OF STAY IN THE SHELTER AND GIVES US THE OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS THE ROOT CAUSES OF WHY THOSE PETS BECAME LOST IN THE FIRST PLACE. THERE IS ALSO AN EMPHASIS ON SCALING AND MAKING MORE ROBUST THE PROGRAMS THAT KEEP PEOPLE AND PETS TOGETHER. SO THAT PREVENTATIVE ASPECT OF THE MODEL. AND AN EMPHASIS ON PROGRAMS THAT REDUCE INTAKE AND OVERCROWDING AT THE SHELTER. I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT THESE ALL WORK TOGETHER AS A SYSTEM AND NOT SO MUCH AS A MENU. BUT, ULTIMATELY, THE GOALS -- WHAT WE ARE WORKING TOWARDS IS A 40% REDUCTION IN SHELTER INTAKE FROM HAYS COUNTY. SO, AGAIN, REALLY FOCUSING OUR INTERVENTIONS. GETTING THOSE RESOURCES TO OUR POPULATION OF ANIMALS AT RISK OF ENTERING THE SHELTER. WE ARE WORKING ON A 50% RETURN TO OWNER RATE FROM THE SHELTER.

RTURNING ALL ELIGIBLE PETS IN THE FIELD WITHOUT IMPOUNDING THEM IN THE SHELTER FIRST. PREVENTING INTAKE OF ALL HEALTHY THRIVING COMMUNITY CATS. AND WORKING TO GET THE COMMUNITY CONFIDENCE IN I.D.ING AT RISK ANIMALS AND TAKING THEM. AND THEN ULTIMATELY, ALL OF THIS IS FACTORED THROUGH THE -- OR FILTERED TO THE IDEA THAT THE PROGRAMMING NEEDS TO SUPPORT THE SCALE OF SHELTER PROPOSED IN THE FEASIBILITY STUDY, WHICH ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS WE HEARD IN COMMUNITY CONVERSATIONS WAS CONCERNED THAT THE SHELTER WAS TOO SMALL.

BUT THE WAY YOU MANAGE YOUR SHELTER CAPACITY IS THROUGH THOSE COMMUNITY PROGRAMS. AND SO WE BELIEVE THAT SCALING THE PROGRAMS AS WE HAVE PROPOSED WILL ENABLE SUCCESSFUL OPERATION OF A SHELTER OF ABOUT 100 ANIMALS.

>> I THINK ANOTHER WAY TO SUMMARIZE WHAT YOU SAID AND THAT LAST PART WAS, LIKE I SAID, STILL HOLDS TRUE.

DIVIDING THIS EFFORT INTO TWO. PROGRAMMING AND SHELTER. I THINK WITH WHAT YOU HAVE SHARED WITH US, YOU ARE BUILDING A VIRTUAL SHELTER SO WE DO NOT NEED AS MUCH BRICKS AND MORTAR FOR THE ACTUAL SHELTER. AND YOU HAVE GONE A LONG WAY AND MADE A HUGE IMPACT IN OUR COMMUNITY. I HAVE SEEN IT TOO MANY DIFFERENT AVENUES. I DON'T WANT US TO ACCIDENTALLY BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE A TANGIBLE BRICK TO TOUCH FEEL THE VIRTUAL SUPPORT THAT IS OUT THERE AND USEFUL AND SUPPORTIVE BUT YOU CAN SPEAK ON WITH STATISTICS GET UNRAVELED AND THEN EASILY BROUGHT BACK DOWN TO 0. AND THEN WE END UP LIKE YOU SAID THROWING GOOD MONEY AT BAD IDEAS AND BUILDING A MONSTER SHELTER WITH NO PROGRAMMING. THAT IS MY CONCERN AT THIS MOMENT. SO THANK YOU FOR ARTICULATING THAT PART OF THIS AND WHERE WE ARE NOW AND WHAT WE SHOULD FOCUS ON AT THIS MOMENT. I THINK THE FOCUS NEEDS TO BE FOR THE MOMENT, NOT, STEPHANIE, IF YOU WILL ALSO SEE THIS PIECE, NOT TO TALK ABOUT ENCAPSULATING THE FACILITIES, BUT TO SUPPORT THE PROGRAMMING THAT IS CURRENTLY IN PLACE. I THINK THAT IS THE FOCUS. AND IN MY PARTICULAR ASK, BECAUSE I CANNOT SPEAK FOR FOUR OTHER COURT MEMBERS -- I AM ONLY ONE OF FIVE -- I WANTED TO SEE WHAT KIND OF SHADING AND FADING IN WE CAN DO. WEATHERBY SETTING ONE SO THIS DOES NOT GO TO ZERO. AND HERE'S OPTION TWO. AND I DON'T KNOW IF THERE IS AN OPTION THREE. MY ONLY HOPE IS THAT WE DO NOT GO BACK TO ZERO . BACK TO BEFORE APA. BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT IS NOT USEFUL IN ANY WAY. HOW DO YOU SEE THAT, COMMISSIONER?

>> WELL, YOU KNOW, IF YOU ALL WERE ABLE TO REVIEW AT LEAST SOME OF THE INFORMATION THAT WAS SHARED LATE YESTERDAY, YOU KNOW, THERE IS ON THE, I WOULD SAY, THIRD PAGE, A CONTINUATION OF CURRENT PROGRAMMING AND COST. AND THE DESCRIPTION UNDERNEATH THAT IS CONTINUED PROPOSED INTERVIEW LOCATIONS AND PARTICIPATE IN DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION PHASE. LEAD OVERALL PROGRAM DEVELOPMENT. DIRECTION. IMPLEMENTATION. AND ENSURE THOSE ARE MEANT. DEVELOPMENT OF PROGRAM PERFORMANCE , MATRIX, AND SUBMIT REPORT REGULARLY. AND

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SERVE AS A POINT OF CONTACT FOR HAYS COUNTY OFFICIALS. AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE YEAR ONE, IT IS MONTH BY MONTH AND WHAT THE DELIVERABLES ARE, I MEAN, I THINK THAT CERTAINLY IS A GOOD START TO, YOU KNOW, DOING SOME OF WHAT YOU HAVE MENTIONED, JUDGE. AND ALSO LOOKING AT POSSIBLE LAND LOCATIONS AND A DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION PHASE AND MOVING FORWARD WITH THAT. I GUESS AS STATED LAST TIME, WE ARE ON A TWO-YOUR TIMELINE TO TRANSITION OUT OF THE SAN MARCOS REGIONAL ANIMAL SHELTER.

BUT, YOU KNOW, HERE WE ARE AGAIN WANTING DIRECTION FROM THE REGIONAL COURT AND ENSURING WE ARE GOING THE RIGHT

DIRECTION. >> I THINK THE BEST WAY TO SUMMARIZE IT FROM MY CHAIR IS, WE HAVE GOT TO STAY THE COURSE, BUT, COMMISSIONER SHELL, HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT THIS?

>> YEAH. I APPRECIATE IT. THAT ALLERGIES ARE UNBELIEVABLE.

>> HOW ABOUT A CLARITIN-D RIGHT NOW.

>> I THINK I AM ALLERGIC TO EVERYTHING. I AM APPRECIATIVE TO THE INFORMATION THAT STEPHANIE SHARED, BECAUSE I THINK IT DID PROVIDE A LOT OF CONTEXT. IN MY MIND, I THINK WE HAVE GOT TWO THINGS HAPPENING IN PARALLEL ALL THE SUDDEN. WE HAVE ONE DIRECTION. NOW, WE HAVE GOT SOMETHING HAPPENING IN PARALLEL TO THAT. HOW DO WE MAKE THEM COMMUNICATE WITH EACH OTHER AND JUST THE TWO TRACKS AS NECESSARY BECAUSE OF WHAT THE OTHER ONE DOES. NOW, FOR INSTANCE, OKAY, THE SHELTER IS REAL. WE HAVE GOT TO PLAN FOR ONE. WE HAVE DONE WORK ON THAT.

WE ARE ALSO PLANNING PROGRAMS WHICH WE HOPE IMPACT SIZE, SKILL, DESIGN OF THAT FACILITY. SO, NOW, IT IS REAL ALL OF A SUDDEN. THEY ARE ALIGNED. AND I GUESS WHAT I WOULD LOOK FOR IS, I KIND OF LOOK AT IT AS LIKE A YEAR ZERO NOW. WHERE WE HAVE WHAT HAS BEEN PROPOSED FOR YEARS ONE THROUGH FOUR. I LOOK AT YEAR ZERO AND WHAT HAS BEEN PROPOSED FOR YOUR ONE.

HAPPENING AFTER WE HAVE MERGED THESE TWO TRACKS AND PUT THEM ON THEIR PARALLEL COURSE. KNOWING AND SEEING WHAT HAS -- WHAT WOULD POTENTIALLY CHANGE IN YEARS ONE THROUGH FOUR BASED UPON HOW THE SHELTER PIECE OF THAT TRACK IS IMPLEMENTED. IN OTHER WORDS, IDENTIFY THE POTENTIAL PARTNERS, WHICH I WILL CALL USERS OF THE FACILITY. THE PROGRAMS OR SERVICES. EITHER ASSOCIATED WITH THE FACILITY AND THEN THE INFRASTRUCTURE WE ARE PUTTING IN PLACE, WHETHER IT BE FOR A FACILITY ARE NOT. BECAUSE I THINK THAT IDENTIFICATION CHANGES NOT JUST SIZE BUT LEVEL PROGRAMMING, SIZE OR STAFF OF PROGRAMMING, ET CETERA. I SEE THAT AS A FOCUS IN NEAR ZERO, WHICH IS REALLY A CONTINUATION OF THE PROJECT PROGRAM COORDINATOR. BUT A FOCUS IN THAT FOR IDENTIFYING THAT RIGHT SIZING SHELTER BASED UPON WHAT WE GET FROM THOSE POTENTIAL PARTNERS THAT MAY BECOME REAL PARTNERS OR ME JUST RELATED PARTNERS OR MAYBE JUST PARTNERS IN THIS MANATEE THAT WE ARE SERVING. OR THEY ARE RECEIVING A BENEFIT FROM IT ALTHOUGH THEY ARE NOT NECESSARILY A DIRECT PARTNER FOR A PROGRAM SERVICE EITHER IN OR OUT OF THE SHELTER. AND SO I KIND OF SEE THAT. CONTINUING THE PROGRAM COORDINATION AND CALLING IT A YEAR ZERO WITH A FOCUS ON LOOKING TO THE FUTURE. WHAT DOES THE SHELTER LOOK LIKE? WHO IS A DIRECT PARTNEROF IT? WHAT COSTS MAY CHANGE IN YEARS ONE THROUGH 48 -- FOUR AND ANY OF THESE SERVICES BASED ON IDENTIFICATION OF WHO OUR PARTNERS ARE AND WHAT LEVEL THEY ARE OUR PARTNER. BUT WITH A GOAL OF ACHIEVING THE PLAN, YOU KNOW, AS PROPOSED. YOU KNOW? A FOUR-YOUR STRATEGY.

STARTING WITH YEAR ZERO AND SAYING NOW THAT WE HAVE TO DO THESE IN PARALLEL, HERE ARE ALL THE THINGS WE WANT TO ACCOMPLISH. IF WE DO THEM, WE BELIEVE THE SHELTER WILL BE THIS BASED UPON OUR PARTNERS AGAIN. THAT IS THE BIGGEST VARIABLE I KEEP THINKING. TO GO THROUGH THAT PROCESS AND THEN SORT OF REFRESH YEARS ONE THROUGH FOUR BASED UPON WHAT WE ACCOMPLISHED IN YEAR ZERO. DO WE HAVE PARTNERS? DO WE NOT? IF WE DO, DO THEY CONTRIBUTE? ARE THEY A CUSTOMER OF THESE

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PROGRAMS OR SERVICES? THEN WE REFRESH YEARS ONE THROUGH FOUR BASED UPON SOLVING THAT PRIMARY QUESTION AS WE CONTINUE TO BUILD THE PROGRAM INTO THE COORDINATION EFFORTS SO THAT WE REALIZE THAT TYPE OF SHELTER THAT WE WANT TO REALIZE. IN OTHER WORDS, WE DO NOT JUST WANT TO STOP AND SAY LET'S JUST BUILD A SHELTER BECAUSE WE DO NOT KNOW HOW THEY TO BUILD A SHELTER OR WHAT IT NEEDS TO ACCOMPLISH, SO WE SORT OF NEED TO DO THEM IN PARALLEL AND UNDERSTAND WHAT IT IS. AND I THINK OUR PARTNERS WILL DETERMINE THAT. IF WE HAVE PARTNERS, IT WILL LOOK DIFFERENT. AND THOSE PARTNERS COULD BE CITIES OBVIOUSLY. THAT IS NUMBER ONE IN MY HEAD. AND HOW WE MERGE THEM INTO THE PROGRAM. WE DON'T WANT TO DUPLICATE EFFORTS. WE DON'T WANT TO FIND ONE PROGRAM TO DO SOMETHING AND THEN BUILD IT INTO THE PROGRAM AND ASSUME IT WILL DO THE EXACT SAME THING. WE NEED TO GET TO THOSE FOLKS AND SAY, HERE IS WHAT YOUR ROLE IS AND HERE IS YOUR FUNDING. IT MERGES WITH OUR PROGRAM AND SERVICES AND PROVIDES SOME BENEFIT TO IT, SO IT IS FINE BEING SEPARATE TO US, BUT IT'S ONLY TO BE IDENTIFIED AND PLACED IN OUR PROGRAM SO WE KNOW THIS IS BEING IDENTIFIED BY THIS GROUP. AND SO WHEN I SAY PARTNER, I DON'T MEAN JUST A POTENTIAL CITY PARTNER BUT A POTENTIAL PROVIDER OF PROGRAM SERVICES THAT EITHER DIRECTLY RELATE TO THE PROGRAM WE ARE TRYING TO BUILD OR INDIRECTLY TO THE PROGRAM WE ARE TRYING TO BUILD. SO IT IS A CONTINUATION OF THE DEVELOPMENT OF THESE PROGRAMS. AND THEN ONCE WE HAVE GOT THAT, WHICH I THINK WILL TAKE A YEAR , AT THE SAME TIME THIS SHELTER IDEA WILL TAKE ABOUT A YEAR TO FIGURE THAT OUT. IT WILL HAPPEN AT THE SAME TIME. THEN WE REFRESH ONE 24 -- ONE FOR FOUR ONCE WE DISCOVER WHO IT IS AND WHO ARE WE SERVING. AND HOW ARE THEY DOING THAT? AND IDENTIFYING THOSE -- ALL OF THOSE ISSUES IN YEAR ZERO.

>> ME I JUST ADD, SO THE DESCRIPTION I READ EARLIER ON YEAR THREE WORKING WITH POTENTIAL PARTNERS, AND I THINK RIGHT NOW WE DO HAVE SOME MOMENTUM. YOU KNOW, EVERYONE RECEIVED THE SAME LETTER WE DID AND THERE ARE OTHER NONPROFITS INTERESTED IN PARTICIPATING ALSO SO IF WE HAD THAT COMPONENT IN THERE WITH TALKING TO POTENTIAL PARTNERS I AM JUST WONDERING IF THAT IS A BETTER DESCRIPTION OR IS THAT A DESCRIPTION THAT CAN BE ADDED OF POTENTIAL PARTNERS FOR THE POTENTIAL CONTINUATION AND COST? THAT IS ON PAGE THREE. I KNOW, COMMISSIONER, YOU ARE STATING THAT WE CAN START AT YEAR ZERO AND THAT YOUR ONE CAN ACTUALLY BE YEAR ZERO, BUT WE NEED TO IDENTIFY, EVEN THOUGH WE CAN'T TALK ABOUT FUNDING RIGHT NOW, WE NEED TO IDENTIFY SOME KIND OF FUNDING TO GO

ALONG WITH THAT. >> CLARITIN-D FOR YOU, TOO.

>> SO ANYWAY, I THINK IT IS JUST GOING AROUND. WE HAVE TO HAVE DIRECTION TO MOVE FORWARD.

>> AND JUST TO CLARIFY, YEAR ZERO, I AM NOT PROPOSING TO CHANGE WHAT IS PROPOSED FOR YOUR ONE THROUGH FOUR ON ANYTHING. UNFORTUNATELY, NOW WE ARE POSED WITH A NEW CHALLENGE WHICH MAKES SOME OF THAT PREMATURE BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE THE ANSWERS. LIKE, IF WE HAVE A PARTNER, ARE THEY GO TO PARTICIPATE IN THOSE PROGRAMS? YEAH. WE CAN FIND PERCENTAGES.

OUR SHARE OF THIS, THIS, OR THIS. MAYBE THAT IS NOT SOMETHING THEY SAY THEY ARE GOING TO DO BUT WE NEED TO KNOW THAT WHEN WE ADOPT A PROGRAM THAT HAS YEARS ONE THROUGH FOUR. WE NEED TO TWEAK IT FOR THE THINGS WE DON'T KNOW YET.

AND SAY, I KIND OF LIKE YOUR IDEA OF DEVELOPING THE PARTNER -- PARTNERS AND WHAT THOSE RELATIONSHIPS ARE. THOSE ASPECTS JUST FOR COORDINATOR IN YEAR ONE. THEY ARE CURRENTLY PROPOSED. WE DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER YET BECAUSE WE HAVE NOT DEVELOPED THAT. WE PULL THAT OUT AND IN PLACE OF THOSE PUT IN THIS PARTNER COORDINATION DEVELOPMENT EFFORT. SO WE ARE LOOKING AT PROBABLY PLUS OR MINUS THE SAME DOLLAR AMOUNT AS PROPOSED FOR THE COORDINATION FOR YOUR ONE. THERE ARE JUST SOME THINGS WE ARE NOT QUITE READY YET TO PULL THE TRIGGER ON. WE WILL TAKE THAT. THAT IS STILL YOUR ONE. WE WILL PLUG IN THIS SERVICE IN THIS PLACE SO WE ARE LEFT WITH A SOMEWHAT

NEAR-CLOSE BUDGET. >> I LOOK AT IT A LOT AS THE CO-LOCATED 911 CENTER THAT WE HAVE. THAT TOOK A LOT OF COORDINATION AND A LOT OF TIME. BUT I THINK WE CAN GET THERE.

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>> COMMISSIONER, MY HOPE IS THAT WE WRAP THIS THING UP ALREADY AND KEEP THE PROGRAMMING AS IT IS. AND AS COMMISSIONER SHELL JUST HIGHLIGHTED, MODIFYING THE DESCRIPTION TO HELP LASSO IN THE PARTNERS FOR COMMITMENTS BECAUSE EVERYONE IS TALKING ABOUT, WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO? WE HAVE BEEN GIVING A SHORT FUSE FROM OUR OLD REGIONAL SHELTER TO RESET, AND, IF WE DON'T HAVE THAT LEADERSHIP SPACE AND SHOW THAT ACTION OF TRAJECTORY, THEN PEOPLE ARE GOING TO SPLINTER AND DO THEIR OWN. WE WILL HAVE DUPLICATION OF EFFORTS. AND SO THAT IS WHAT I AM HOPING TO AVOID. I AM HAPPY TO DO WHAT WE CAN DO, BUT I HAVE A PREFERENCE TO GET THE ROAD MAP TO SHUT THIS THING DOWN AND BUTTON-DOWN THE AGENDA. WE WANT TO MOVE ONTO THE NEXT THING.

>> AFTER REVIEWING WHAT WE GOT LAST NIGHT, I JUST HAVE A LOT MORE QUESTIONS THAN I DID LAST WEEK. AND THE REASON FOR THAT IS, I UNDERSTAND THE NEED AND THE EFFORT, ESPECIALLY WITH THE NEW INFORMATION WE GOT ON THE REGIONAL ANIMAL SHELTER FOR THE COORDINATION. I THINK THAT IS IMPERATIVE. I THINK THERE IS A PRETTY OBVIOUS EXPRESS MEANT FROM THIS COURT THAT WE ALL WANT TO ADDRESS THE ISSUE. THE PROBLEM THAT I HAVE VISUALLY FROM A FUNCTIONAL SENSE. IF WE LOOK AT WHAT THOSE SERVICES THAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT OUR, WE ARE LOOKING AT OVER 20 FULL-TIME EMPLOYEES. AND AT LEAST ONE PART-TIME EMPLOYEE.

AND JUST THE GENERAL COST ASSOCIATED WITH THAT, AT A CERTAIN POINT WE HAVE TO DECIDE ARE THOSE GOING TO BE OUR EMPLOYEES OR HOW MANY EMPLOYEES ARE WE -- AND THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH YOUR ORGANIZATION OR ANY OTHER ORGANIZATION. ARE WE PAYING TO FUND AN ORGANIZATION TO DO SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD BE DOING AND IN CONTROL OF? AND WHAT DISPARITIES COME FROM THAT? AND I SAY THAT BECAUSE WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, WE ARE TALKING ABOUT SOME OF THE SERVICES BEING OFFERED ARE OFFICERS.

EIGHT OFFICERS. WE HAVE OFFICERS THAT DO THAT RIGHT NOW. WHAT IS THE COST OF OUR OFFICERS TO DO THAT VERSUS PAYING EIGHT OFFICERS. WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE? WHAT DIFFERENT DUTIES DO THEY HAVE? HOW WOULD THEY FUNCTION TOGETHER? WOULD IT BE A COST BENEFIT FOR US IF THE S.O.

COULD DO IT AND EXPAND AND HAVE EIGHT MORE OFFICERS THERE? THERE ARE QUESTIONS THERE ON -- AND I HAVE GOT NINE DEPARTMENT HEADS SITTING HERE TODAY. I GUARANTEE YOU IF I GUARANTEED THEM THEIR EMPLOYEES -- OR I GUARANTEED THEM 20 PEOPLE OVER THE NEXT SIX YEARS WITH A MINIMUM OF A 6% PAY RAISE OVER THE NEXT YEAR I WOULD HAVE NINE PEOPLE WHO WOULD SUPPORT IT

TOMORROW. >> THE ONLY THING COMMISSIONER IS WE HAVE A LOT OF THOSE PARTNER HEADS THAT HAVE VACANCIES FOR YEARS. AND I LIKE THE COMMISSIONER SHELL APPROACH OF, WE CAN BUILD IT, BUT WE CAN'T ALWAYS RUN IT.

>> I DON'T DISAGREE WITH YOU. BUT THE CONCERN I HAVE IS WHERE BUILDING THIS CAR AND IF AT THE END OF YOUR FOUR WE HAVE BUILT THIS CAR BUT WE DON'T KNOW HOW TO DRIVE IT. IF YOU GO WITH AN OUTSIDE CONTRACT LIKE THIS, AT THE END OF THE DAY, WHAT WE ARE GUARANTEEING IS 21, 20 1/2 FULL-TIME EMPLOYEES, AND AT LEAST ONE PART-TIME EMPLOYEE, THAT AND PERPETUITY WE WILL BE PAYING AN ORGANIZATION TO RUN ON BEHALF OF THE COUNTY. AND IF WE ARE A COUNTY OF SIZE THAT HAS TO HAVE THIS, THEN MAYBE WE NEED TO GO UP AND PUT OUR BIG BOY PANTS ON AND DO IT.

>> WHAT IS IT? >> HIGHER THESE CONSULTANT TO SHOW US HOW TO DO IT. BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, IF WE ARE GOING TO MANAGE THIS, THEN WE HAVE GOT TO MANAGE IT. ARE WE JUST SUPPLEMETING AN ORGANIZATION? AND AGAIN, NOTHING AGAINST YOUR ORGANIZATION. I WOULD SAY THE SAME THING IF THE WOMEN'S SHELTER WE SPOKE ABOUT -- IF WE WERE PAYING FOR STAFF FOR THE WOMEN'S SHELTER. I AGREE WE HAVE TO HAVE EXPERTS IN THAT FIELD TO TELL US WHAT THE NEEDS ARE. TRY PATH FOR US. BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, IF WE ARE GOING TO BE PAYING FOR THOSE SERVICES OR PAYING AN EMPLOYEE $180,000 , AS MY FIDUCIARY DUTY TO MY CONSTITUENTS, I WANT TO MAKE SURE IF THEY ARE NOT DOING THEIR JOB THAT I AM ABLE TO, US

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AS A COURT, OR THEIR DIRECT SUPERVISOR CAN SAY, HEY, GUESS WHAT, THE JOB IS NOT GETTING DONE OR THEY ARE DOING A GREAT JOB. IF THE JOB IS NOT GETTING DONE, WE DON'T HAVE THAT

ABILITY. >> YES, WE DO, COMMISSIONER.

>> NO, WE DON'T. >> IT IS CALLED A CONTRACT.

>> WE CAN'T FIRE ANY OF THEIR EMPLOYEES. I'M NOT SAYING I WANT TO FIRE EMPLOYEES, BUT I AM SAYING IF WE ARE SPENDING LITERALLY MILLIONSOF DOLLARS A YEAR, THEN LET'S JUST -- LET'S JUST DO IT. AND I WOULD MUCH RATHER JUST TAKEN OVER FOR THE COUNTY. I KNOW WE WOULD STILL HAVE A COORDINATION CONTRACT. I DON'T SEE HOW WE COULDN'T WITH THE CURRENT PROVIDER BECAUSE WE NEED THE GUIDANCE. BUT IF WE ARE GOING TO DO THIS, MY DAD, HE WAS NEVER POLITICALLY CORRECT, BUT HE ALWAYS SAID WHENEVER WE GOT INTO SITUATIONS LIKE THIS, YOU CAN'T BE HALF PREGNANT. YOU ARE EITHER PREGNANT OR YOU'RE NOT. WE HAVE A TWO YEAR GESTATION PERIOD. TWO YEARS

UNTIL THIS BABY IS DELIVERED. >> SO I SUPPORT THE PROGRAMMING CONTINUATION IDEA. HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT THAT IDEA,

COMMISSIONER INGALSBE? >> LET ME CONTINUE TO A COMMISSIONER SMITH JUST SPOKE OF. I THINK WE HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF TIME. WE HAD A LOT OF DISCUSSION OVER IT. I KNOW IT IS THE MODEL THAT THE STUDY CAME UP WITH. I KNOW WE ARE GOING TO HAVE NEW LEADERSHIP IN THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE. I THINK THEY WILL BE INVOLVED IN SOME OF THOSE CONVERSATIONS. BUT I THINK WE HAVE A LITTLE TIME TO DETERMINE IS IF THE MODEL WE WANT TO FOLLOW OR DO WE LEAVE IT THE WAY IT IS? THAT IS A DISCUSSION THAT WE WILL NEED TO CONTINUE TO HAVE. I THINK WE HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF TIME. I DO NOT THINK IT IS IN YEAR ONE THAT ANY OF THESE THINGS WOULD BE HAPPENING, BUT I DO THINK WE NEED TO CONTINUE TO MOVE FORWARD.

>> COMMISSIONER, ONE POINT I WOULD MAKE THOUGH IS IF YOU WOULD LOOK AT THE DATA WE WERE GIVEN YESTERDAY, MOST OF THESE POSITIONS -- I WOULD SAY OVER 70% OF THESE POSITIONS ARE YOUR ONE POSITIONS. SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT, BECAUSE WE HAVE GOT -- I WOULD BE REMISS IF I DID NOT SAY THIS BECAUSE I KNOW I WILL WALK OUT OF THIS COURTROOM AND GO TO THE GOVERNMENT CENTER AND HAVE 20 EMPLOYEES STOP ME. AT THE END OF THE DAY, IF WE ARE PAYING FOR FULL-TIME EMPLOYEES THAT WILL BE WORKING ON BEHALF OF THE COUNTY, THAT THEY WALK IN THERE WITH A BADGE THAT SAYS HAYS COUNTY ON IT, THERE NEEDS TO BE SOME CONGRUENCY WITH HOW WE PAY OUR EMPLOYEES AND OUR STAFF. AND , IN ALL FAIRNESS TO OUR -- HOW MANY EMPLOYEES DO WE HAVE NOW, VICKI? OVER 1200 EMPLOYEES. WHEN WE LOOK AT IT, HOW THESE POSITIONS ARE STAFFED IN THESE KIND OF THINGS, IF WE END UP GOING WITH AN OUTSIDE GROUP TO DO IT, WE HAVE TO HAVE A REAL UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE AND HOW THOSE EMPLOYEES WHO ARE BE -- ACTING ON BEHALF OF HAYS COUNTY ARE BEING PAID BECAUSE OF US. IT HAS TO BE DONE IN FAIRNESS TO

OUR EMPLOYEES. >> YEAH. AND I WAS LOOKING SPECIFICALLY AT THE LAW ENFORCEMENT PORTION. THEY ARE IN DIFFERENT CATEGORIES. I THINK THAT IS WHERE WE WANT THE DIRECTION FROM THE COURT. WHAT I WAS LOOKING AT SPECIFICALLY WAS THE THIRD PAGE. YEAR ONE OF THAT SPECIFIC CATEGORY.

>> PROGRAM COORDINATION. >> YEAH. AND I THINK, JUDGE, THAT IS WHAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT AND COMMISSIONER SHELL WAS TALKING ABOUT. THAT IS MY UNDERSTANDING UNLESS I TOTALLY WAS MISTAKEN ABOUT THAT BUT THAT IS TOTALLY WHAT I WAS LOOKING AT. THAT WE START THERE. THEN THERE IS ALL THESE OTHERS. I THINK THAT IF WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT TODAY, THEN WE CAN COME BACK AND MAKE SOME OTHER DETERMINATIONS. IF THERE IS OTHER ITEMS WE WANT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH BUT RIGHT NOW THAT IS WHAT I WAS LOOKING AT. JUST THAT.

>> YEAH. THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT I WAS LOOKING AT, TOO. I WAS JUST GOING TO CALL IT YEAR ZERO AND REFRESH. WE HAVE BEEN PRESENTED WITH YOURS ONE THROUGH FOUR FOR THE ENTIRE PROGRAM. THERE WAS ONE OTHER PEACE. THE FUNDRAISING PEACE. I THOUGHT MAYBE IT SHOULD BE ROLLED IN AT SOME POINT. INTO YOUR ZERO.

AGAIN, IT MIGHT REPLACE SOMETHING THAT FALLS OUT BECAUSE IT IS MORE DIRECTLY RELATED TO A YEAR ONE THROUGH

FOUR FEATURE. >> SO I WOULD AGREE ON BOTH THE FUNDRAISING POSITION AND THE GRANT WRITING POSITION.

>> AND, LEANNE, I WANT TO MAKE SURE I KNOW EXACTLY WHERE THIS

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IS HEADED. AS THIS CONVERSATION IS UNFOLDING AND EVOLVING, I WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU'RE KEEPING UP WITH IT. MY SON AND I DID THIS ON THE REAL MADRID GAME. HE STARTED SAYING SOMETHING AND HE ONLY IS ONE WORD AND I SAID YEAH AND THEN HE SHUSHED AND THAT WAS ENOUGH. I DIDN'T SAY THREE WORDS AND THAT WAS ALREADY TOO MUCH. SO HERE IN THE COURT, THE WAY WE HAVE RUN AS A PACK, IF YOU WILL, I GLANCE WHEN THE COMMISSIONER WANTS TO SAY SOMETHING AND THEY KNOW I AM ALWAYS PANNING FOR THEM SO I DON'T WANT TO TAKE FOR GRANTED OUR LEVEL OF COMMUNICATION AND UNDERSTANDING WITH YOU, THE EXECUTOR OF THE CONTRACT, AND YOUR UNDERSTANDING. WHAT HAVE YOU HEARD SO FAR AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE ARE ALL ON THE

SAME PAGE. >> I THINK WE ARE. I THINK WE ARE ON THE SAME PAGE. AND I WANT TO OFFER A LITTLE BIT OF FEEDBACK TO COMMISSIONER SMITH ABOUT FIELD SERVICES. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I THINK IS UNFORTUNATE, AND I -- I HAVE ALMOST 20 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE WORKING WITH LOCAL GOVERNMENT.

I LOVE LOCAL GOVERNMENT. THIS IS WHERE WE SOLVE PROBLEMS. IF YOU WANT TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE, THIS IS WHERE IT IS AT.

>> AGREED. >> AND IT VEXES ME. YOU ALL HAVE A COST SCHEDULE THAT HAS A NARRATIVE DESCRIPTION OF WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH AND HOW THINGS WORK TOGETHER AND SO THOSE NUMBERS ARE A LITTLE BIT OUT OF CONTEXT. WHEN WE BID, WE WERE ASKED TO BID ON THE ENTIRETY OF THE SCOPE. SO WE HAD TO COME UP WITH A RESPONSE TO EVERYTHING, AND THE FIELD SERVICES PIECE IS SOMETHING THAT STANDS OUT. IT IS DIFFICULT AND WE CAN MAKE SOME GENERAL RECOMMENDATIONS, BUT THERE ARE DECISIONS THAT NEED TO BE MADE ABOUT HOW THAT SERVICE WILL BE OFFERED. AND I THINK IT MAKES SENSE TO CALL THAT OUT AND ACKNOWLEDGE IT. I THINK THERE ARE WAYS TO ACCOMPLISH THE IMMEDIATE NEED FOR A MORE ROBUST FIELDS SERVICES ACCOUNT FOR THE COUNTY, AND THAT MAY LOOK LIKE AT RESIDING STILL WITHIN THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT BUT HAVING A STRONG COLLABORATIVE COLLABORATION WITH THE PROGRAMMING PEACE. THAT IS AN ONGOING CONVERSATION. I THINK THAT I UNDERSTAND COMMISSIONER SHELL'S POINT ABOUT YEAR ZERO AND RECONSIDERING PARTNERS. AND THE ROLE TO PLAY. I THINK THERE IS A LOT OF INTEREST. THAT IS ONE OF THE THINGS WE HAVE HEARD FROM COMMUNITY CONVERSATIONS. PEOPLE ARE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THE IDEA OF A COLLABORATIVE APPROACH TO ADDRESSING ANIMAL SERVICES ISSUES IN THE COUNTY. THERE ARE A LOT OF GROUPS AND INDIVIDUALS DOING REALLY GOOD WORK AND IF WE COULD PULL IT ALL TOGETHER WE WOULD HAVE A BIGGER IMPACT. AND I THINK WITH CLEAR DIRECTION FROM THE COURT ABOUT WHERE WE ARE TRYING TO END UP, I THINK FOLKS WILL HAVE THE CONFIDENCE THAT THEY NEED.

THERE WAS A SECONDARY PROPOSAL THAT I CAME UP WITH. AGAIN, WHEN WE WERE LOOKING AT THAT WHEEL DIAGRAM, WE WERE FITTING EVERYTHING INTO A YEAR. OBVIOUSLY, THINGS HAVE CHANGED A LOT SINCE MARCH. SINCE THINGS WERE ORIGINALLY PROPOSED, THINGS WERE CHANGED SINCE THE RFP WAS DUE IN MAY. AND SO I THINK THAT THE -- I THINK WHAT YOU ALL CONSIDER IS WISE. I AGREE THAT ADDING THE FUNDRAISING COMPONENT MAKES SENSE TO THE FIRST PHASE OF WORK. I WOULD ALSO ENCOURAGE YOU ALL TO CONSIDER FUNDING THE LOST AND FOUND PROGRAM. THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WILL HAVE AN IMMEDIATE IMPACT ON THE SAN MARCO'S SHELTERING SYSTEM. AND THE PROGRAM THAT THE COUNTY IS CURRENTLY LACKING WOULD MAKE A BIG DIFFERENCE, SO THAT WOULD BE THE OTHER PRIORITY THAT I WOULD MAKE A CASE FOR.

>> COMMISSIONER INGALSBE, BACK TO YOU. I JUST WANTED TO GIVE

AN OPPORTUNITY FOR A LEAD. >> YEAH. THERE IS ONE THING IN THE CORONATION PIECE THAT I JUST WANT TO MENTION. I KNOW WHAT THE INITIAL ASSESSMENT, THERE WAS AN ATTEMPT AT IT, BUT I DON'T KNOW THAT GIVEN THE NEW INFORMATION WE HAVE GOT FROM SAN MARCO'S, I DON'T KNOW THAT WE HAVE THE MOST UP-TO-DATE AND USABLE DATA ON IT. AND I THINK IT WOULD HAVE A HUGE IMPACT ON WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO DO HERE. AND POSTMAN INTO PARTNERS WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT, WE HAVE ALL MENTIONED THEM. WE HAVE FUNDED SOME OF THEM. BUT WE KNOW THEY ARE THERE. I GUESS THE QUESTION I HAVE IN THE DATA THAT WE NEED IS WHAT ARE YOU DOING RIGHT NOW AND WHAT CAPACITY DO YOU HAVE IN WHAT YOU'RE DOING RIGHT NOW AND WHAT COULD YOU DO EVEN WITH THE SMALLEST AMOUNT OF ADDITIONAL FUNDING? AND HOW CAN

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THAT PLAY INTO WHAT WE WANT TO DO IN THE FUTURE. IN OTHER WORDS, THEY HAVE A FACILITY, AND I AM JUST MAKING THIS UP, BUT I KNOW WE HAVE FACILITIES LIKE THIS IN THE COUNTY. IF CURRENTLY YOU COULD TAKE 20 ANIMALS BUT YOU HAVE PROGRAMMING ABILITY, WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE? AT YOUR CURRENT FACILITY, CAN YOU TAKE 25 MORE ANIMALS? WHAT WOULD THAT COST US AND WHAT COULD YOU HELP HOST THERE? HOW MUCH WOULD IT COST? BECAUSE THOSE FACTORS RIGHT THERE, I THINK, WOULD HAVE A MAJOR IMPACT ON WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT, AND AT THE END OF THE DAY ON THE SIZE OF WHATEVER FACILITY THAT WE HAVE TO DO, I VALUE THE EFFORT THAT WOULD PUT IN, BUT I JUST DO NOT KNOW THAT THAT HAPPENED. AND -- AND I MAY BE WRONG. I KNOW THERE ARE ORGANIZATIONS HERE OPERATING WITHIN THE COUNTY THAT HAVE BEEN OPERATING FOR QUITE SOME TIME. AND THEY DO A GOOD SERVICE AND I THINK THEY ARE WILLING TO EXPAND IT AND IT COULD BE AT A MUCH MORE COST-EFFECTIVE RATE THAN WHAT

WE COULD DO IT. >> FOLKS, I HEARD YOU SAY THAT LAST TIME IN COURT. AND I WILL TELL YOU THAT WITHOUT COMING INTO THE PUBLIC SQUARE ON CAMERA, THE MAJORITY OF THE ORGANIZATIONS THAT ARE HELPING IN THEIR SMALL WAYS DON'T HAVE EITHER THE CAPACITY, THE RESOURCES, OR THE ABILITY.

HOWEVER YOU WANT TO HIT THAT TRAJECTORY. WEATHERBEE STAFFING OR WHATEVER IT MAY BE. I DO NOT WANT TO SAY WILLINGNESS, BECAUSE THAT IS NOT THE RIGHT WORD, BUT THE ABILITY IS NOT AS PREVALENT AS WE MAY THINK THE CAPACITY THAT YOU ARE DESCRIBING IS NOT AS SHELF READY AS YOU HAVE CONVEYED THE OPTIMISM FOUR. I JUST WANTED TO SHARE THAT PEACE. COMMISSIONER

SHELL? >> THOSE OTHER GROUPS. I ROLE IN THEIR IN PARTNER. MAYBE THERE IS A ROLE. MAYBE THERE IS NOT. BUT TO PLUG THE COORDINATION PEACE INTO YOUR 02 FLUSH THAT OUT AND WHAT IT WOULD TAKE IF THERE IS SOMEONE PERFORMING A SERVICE OUT THERE. THAT SAYS, WELL, IF WE HAD THIS, WE COULD DO WHAT YOU HAD RIGHT THERE. WE CAN ALL TALK ABOUT THAT AND SAY, THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING THAT WORKS. WE HAVE ALREADY GOT THE INFRASTRUCTURE IN PLACE AND VOLUNTEERS WERE ENGAGED AND MOTIVATED. WHY NOT USE THAT TO PUT THIS PIECE TOGETHER. SO I THINK THAT IS WHAT I WOULD LOOK FOR IN THAT YEAR ZERO. WE CALL IT YOUR ZERO. WE CALL IT YOUR ONE AND CALL THE OTHERS TWO THROUGH FIVE. THAT IS WHAT I WOULD LOOK TO DO DURING THAT TIME. AND TAKE WHAT IS PROPOSED FOR THAT YOUR ONE IN COORDINATION AND SAY HERE ARE SOME PIECES MORE DIRECTLY RELATED TO THOSE REAL YEARS ONE THROUGH FOUR. AND WE ARE GOING TO PLUG IN THIS PARTNER COORDINATION TO THE OTHER LIST OF TASKS WITHIN THE SCOPE. AND THEN I DO THINK WHAT COMMISSIONER SMITH MENTIONED ABOUT THE GRANT PIECE, WHICH IS PART OF THE FUND RAISING SECTION WOULD BE GOOD TO GET STARTED AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. SO THAT SHOULD BE INCLUDED IN YEAR ZERO. AND IN THE LOST AND FOUND, THAT IS MAYBE SOMETHIG THAT SHOULD ALSO BE CONSIDERED TO GO AHEAD AND GET STARTED ON. IT COULD HAVE A DIRECT EFFECT IN FUTURE PLANNING. WE WILL SEE HOW THAT WORKS. THAT IS WHAT I

AM LOOKING. >> YOU'RE GOOD AT RECAPPING.

IT HAS BEEN BROUGHT UP A FEW TIMES. I WANTED YOU TO BRING UP HOW THE ORIGINAL ASSESSMENTS -- AND FOR THE VIEWING PUBLIC, WE HAVE ALL BEEN TOLD, ALL THE MINISTER PENALTIES IN OUR GOVERNMENT THAT DEPEND ON THE SAN MARCOS MODEL OF BEING A REGIONAL FACILITY HAS NOW BEEN PUT ON A SHORT FUSE. A TO YOUR TIMELINE. NO MORE FOR YOU GUYS. AND SO BECAUSE OF THAT SHIFT THAT YOU MENTIONED EARLIER, I WOULD LIKE FOR YOU TO SPEAK JUST FOR A MOMENT ON THE RELEVANCE OF THE INFORMATION GATHERED PREVIOUSLY REGARDING THE ASSESSMENTS, THE NEEDS ASSESSMENTS, SPECIFICALLY BECAUSE IT HAS BEEN BROUGHT UP THAT NOW IT MAY BE OBSOLETE. I DON'T BELIEVE IT IS, BUT WHAT

DO YOU THINK? >> I -- I THINK THAT IT IS RELEVANT IN AS MUCH AS THE SORT OF SECOND PHASE OF WORK. WE WERE ALL CALLING THE DIFFERENT PHASES DIFFERENT YEARS AND TIMING SO I AM SURE THIS IS VERY CONFUSING FOR EVERYONE.

BUT IN OUR ORIGINAL PROPOSAL, THE NEXT PHASE OF WORK WAS EXPANDING THE VIRTUAL RESOURCE MODEL WHICH WE STARTED THIS YEAR. SO ADDING ADDITIONAL -- ADDITIONAL RESOURCES AND SERVICES TO THE PUBLIC TO HELP THEM SOLVE COMMUNITY CONFLICTS

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AROUND PETS AND HELP GET LOST PETS BACK HOME AGAIN AND REDUCE INTAKE INTO THE SHELTER. THE SECOND PHASE OF WORK WAS AROUND BUILDING A MORE DIRECT COMMUNITY PRESENCE. THAT WAS THE FACE OF WORK IN WHICH WE TALKED ABOUT GROWING SATELLITE FACILITIES AND DOING MORE POP-UP TYPE EVENTS TO CONNECT PET OWNERS WITH RESOURCES. TO CONNECT PETS IN NEED OF HOME WITH A ADOPTER OR FOSTER OR PROGRAMMING THAT YOU WOULD GET WITH A PHYSICAL SHELTER, BECAUSE, ONE , WE WERE NOT THINKING THAT WE WOULD HAVE A PHYSICAL SHELTER IN THAT PHASE, AND ALSO IT HELP TO ADDRESS THE CONCERN WE HEARD ABOUT DRIVETIME TO PROPOSED DISTANCE. SO I DON'T THINK THAT ANYTHING THAT IS HAPPENING NOW CHANGES THAT FIRST PHASE OF WORK. I THINK THAT IT POTENTIALLY MIGHT HAVE SOME IMPACT ON SORT OF THAT PHYSICAL COMMUNITY PHASE BECAUSE WE ARE TALKING ABOUT HAVING A SHELTER AT THAT POINT.

>> COMMISSIONER INGALSBE. >> SO, JUDGE, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT I AM LISTENING AND GETTING THE CORRECT DIRECTION FROM THE COURT. SO, UNDER THAT THIRD PAGE AND THEN GOING ON TO THE FOURTH PLAYS, UNDER CONTINUATION OF CURRENT PROGRAM AND COST, UNDER MONTH TWO, THE DELIVERABLES ARE TO COMPLETE RECRUITMENT, HIRING, AND ON BOARDING FOR A COORDINATION COORDINATOR, ENGAGEMENT COORDINATOR, AND MARKETING AND COORDINATIONS, I GUESS, POSITION, ALSO. THEN ON TO PAGE 4 UNDER MONTH THREE, THERE IS ALSO A LICENSED SOCIAL WORKER AND A DATA SPECIALIST. AND THEN MONTH SIX, THERE IS 2.5 CALL CENTER FTES. SO IS THE COURT CLEAR ON THAT, AND THAT THE DIRECTION WE WANT TO KNOW? WITH HIRING THAT MANY PEOPLE?

>> THE DELIVERABLES WOULD CHANGE IF WE DON'T ADD IN ALL

THE PROGRAMMING. >> YEAH.

>> THOSE POSITIONS ARE ASSOCIATED WITH CERTAIN PROGRAMMING, SO IF WE DON'T ADD IN AT PROGRAMMING, THEN THOSE DELIVERABLES WOULD BE TAKEN OUT.

>> OKAY. I JUST WANTED TO MAKE CERTAIN WE ARE CLEAR ON THAT.

SO, JUDGE, WHAT I AM HEARING IS WITH THE CURRENT COST, WE ALSO ADDING THE FUNDRAISING DEVELOPMENT OUR FUNDING DEVELOPMENT PARTNERING, PARTNER COORDINATION, AND LOST AND

FOUND. >> SO CONTINUING WHAT WE ARE DOING AND ADDING THOSE UP SOONER IS WHAT I AM HEARING,

TOO. >> YEAH. AND KIND OF SCRUB THAT YOUR ONE COORDINATION FOR THOSE THINGS WHERE PUSHING INTO YOUR ONE AND FOUR AND REPLACING THAT WITH, YOU KNOW, A COORDINATION WITH THE PARTNERS, AND THEN ADD IN THE FUNDING AND THE LOST AND FOUND. ANYTHING ASSOCIATED WITH THAT.

>> AND MAYBE JUST A SMIDGE ON THIS PIECE. I WILL SAY IT THIS WAY BECAUSE WE ARE ALWAYS RECORDED ON EVERYTHING. THE COMMISSIONER SAID, EVEN THOUGH I HAD FOLKS REACH OUT TO ME ABOUT THE RELUCTANCE, IF YOU WILL, I STILL KNOW THAT YOU WILL AND I WILL JUST SAY IT VERBALLY HERE. TO REACH OUT TO ALL THOSE FACILITIES THAT HAVE ANY FACILITY ROLES TO PLAY THAT NOW ARE MUNICIPAL PARTNER HAS CHANGED THE TRAJECTORY, JUST AS A POTENTIAL VARIATION OF OUR CURRENT NEW ROAD MAP THAT WE WERE PUSHED INTO. SO I THINK THAT WOULD BE VERY GOOD AND USEFUL. SO, STEPHANIE, HOW ABOUT A SUMMARIZING FOR YOU?

>> I ALSO WANTED TO TOUCH ON THE RUNNING OF THE FACILITY AT SOME POINT. THAT WILL ALSO HAVE TO BE A CONVERSATION WE HAVE BECAUSE THIS FACILITATION DOES NOT COVER IT.

>> FAR DOWN THE ROAD. >> THIS IS JUST TO POTENTIALLY GET PROGRAMMING IN PLACE, ALONG WITH GETTING A BUILDING IN PLACE, BECAUSE PART OF THIS IS THEM WORKING WITH THE ENGINEERS, ARCHITECTS, TO ASSURE THAT THE AESTHETIC OF THE SHELTER IS WHAT IS RECOMMENDED SO THAT THEY WOULD BE A CONSULTANT IN THAT ASPECT OF IT. THIS IS NOT FOR THEM TO RUN THE ACTUAL SHELTER NOR THE EMPLOYEES THAT THEY ARE HIRING.

IF WE DON'T HIRE THEM LATER ON, THIS IS JUST INTO THAT

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CONTRACT. >> DOES IT CONTINUE WHAT IS GOING ON BUT NOT THE BRICKS AND MORTAR PROGRAM AT THAT LATER

DATE? >> CORRECT. SO THAT DECISION WOULD HAVE TO BE MADE LATER ON WHEN WE GET CLOSER TO THE BRICKS AND MORTAR. SO AS A RECAP, WHAT I HAVE IS THAT WE ARE GOING TO MOVE FORWARD WITH CURRENT PROGRAMMING COSTS AND CALL IT YOUR ZERO, BUT WE ARE GOING TO CHANGE THE SCOPE AND ADD IN DEVELOPING PARTNERS OF THE SHELTER AND THEIR LEVEL OF CONTRIBUTION. THEIR LEVEL OF ABILITY. LIKE WHAT PROGRAMMING THEY CURRENTLY HAVE. AND HOW WE COULD MAYBE EXPAND ON THAT. THE PROGRAMS ASSOCIATED WITH THE FACILITY AND KIND OF HOW WE WOULD LIKE TO ROLL THOSE OUT LATER. AND THEN ALSO ADD IN THE FUNDING AND GRANT WRITING WHICH IS ON THE SAME UMBRELLA. AND THEN THE LOST AND FOUND PROGRAM.

>> YES. WE CAPTURED IT GOOD. >> ARE WE GOING TO DO -- WRITE IT AS A ONE-YEAR CONTRACT OR WRITE IT AS A ONE-YEAR CONTRACT AND THEN HAVE THE REST OF THIS TAILORED IN?

>> I WOULD SAY BECAUSE ONE AND FOUR WILL BE CHANGED BASED UPON THE DEVELOPMENT OF YOUR ZERO. SORRY TO KEEP DOING THAT. THE OPTION TO REFRESH WHAT IS PROPOSED, YOU KNOW, AT THE CONCLUSION OF THE FIRST YEAR. SO A ONE-YEAR CONTRACT OF COURSE WITH THE ABILITY TO RENEW AND UPDATE WITH THE CURRENT LAYOUT OF THE LAND THAT WE KIND OF ANTICIPATE AT THIS

MOMENT. >> RIGHT.

>> JUDGE, CAN WE MAYBE ASK THAT AN APPROPRIATE MOTION BE

CRAFTED? >> CRAFTED? SURE.

>> THEN COME BACK AND MAKE THAT WITH ALL THAT.

>> YOU HAVE A MOTION OR DO YOU HAVE ENOUGH DIRECTION FROM ALL

US? >> OH. YOU KNOW WHAT? WE ARE STILL IN NEGOTIATIONS. DO WE JUST GIVE DIRECTION AND COME

BACK WITH A MOTION? >> I THINK THE DIRECTION THEY HAVE GIVEN THUS FAR WILL COVER US. AND THROUGH THE CONTACT NEGOTIATION PERIOD WITH WHICH WE ARE STILL ON, WE CAN WORK ON PUTTING THAT ALMOST IN WRITING TO REVIEW AND EDITS .

>> CORRECT. >> WE WILL BRING THE FINALIZE CONTRACT ONCE IT IS NEGOTIATED TO THE COURT TO APPROVAL.

>> MUCH CLARIFICATION AND ACTION HAS BEEN PROVIDED TO EVERYONE INVOLVED, AND THINK YOU OUGHT TO OUR TIME. SO LET US JUMP OVER NOW TO G14. I AM WORKING ON IT. G14. I SEE YOU.

[G.14. Authorize the acceptance of a grant award from the Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration (SAMHSA), Assisted Outpatient Treatment grant program in the amount of $452,653.00. INGALSBE/COHEN/T.CRUMLEY/BROWN]

>> G14 OFFERS THE ACCEPTANCE OF A GRANT AWARD FROM THE SUBSTANCE AND MENTAL HEALTH SERVICES ADMINISTRATION , ASSISTED OUTPATIENT GRANT PROGRAM IN THE FORM OF

$452,653.00 . >> ALL RIGHT. IF YOU WOULD STATE YOUR NAME AND TITLE FOR THE COUNTY CLERK.

>> I AM THE COUNTY. >>

TELL US ABOUT IT. >> IT IS A FOUR -- UP TO A FOUR YEAR GRANT. WE WILL START WITH -- I CANNOT TALK. A LITTLE BIT OVER $452,000. THEN WE WILL GO FORWARD AND GET A LITTLE BIT MORE EACH YEAR UNTIL WE GET $500,000. I BELIEVE IT IS THE THIRD YEAR AND FOURTH YEAR. THE PROGRAM IS FOR AN ASSISTED OUTPATIENT TREATMENT PROGRAM. THAT IS WHAT THE GRANTOR DESIGNED TO FUND. THE ASSISTED OUTPATIENT TREATMENT PROGRAM WILL ALLOW US TO EXPAND THE SERVICES WE ARE CURRENTLY DOING UNDER THE MENTAL HEALTH COURT TO A CIVIL COURT FOR THE ASSISTED OUTPATIENT TREATMENT IS ACTUALLY CIVIL. AS YOU KNOW, THE COUNTY COURT AT LAW OUR JURISDICTION IS ALSO OVER MENTAL HEALTH CASES INVOLVING CIVIL COMMITMENT. THIS WILL ALLOW US TO DO OUTPATIENT TREATMENT AS OPPOSED TO INPATIENT TREATMENT FOR THOSE WHO ARE ELIGIBLE FOR THOSE SERVICES. THIS GRANT WAS AWARDED IN CONJUNCTION WITH A LOCAL MENTAL HEALTH AUTHORITY, WHICH IS HILL COUNTY, SO THEY WILL BE PROVIDING A LOT OF THE SERVICES FOR THE ASSISTANT OUTPATIENT TREATMENT COURT. AND WE BELIEVE THIS IS GOING TO ALLOW US TO MAKE SURE THAT INDIVIDUALS IN HAYS COUNTY ARE GETTING THE SERVICES THAT THEY MAY NEED WHO MAY NOT BE ASSOCIATED WITH THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM. SO IT WILL

EXPAND THE PROGRAM. >> SO HALF $1 MILLION GIVEN TO

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HAYS COUNTY, IS THAT STATE OR FEDERAL OR BOTH?

>> BOTH. >> I JUST WANT THE VIEWING PUBLIC TO KNOW THAT OUR EFFICIENCY IN GOVERNMENT CONTINUES TO INCREASE. WE HAVE JUST CAPTURED HALF $1 MILLION.

I TOTALING OF $2 MILLION, MORE ABOUT, FOR MONEY THAT WOULD HAVE GONE TO ANOTHER MUNICIPALITY OR COUNTY OR STATE HAD WE NOT DONE THIS WORK. WE HEAR ALL OF THE WAYS, AND NO ONE IS TALKING ABOUT -- AND I SAY NO ONE AND THAT IS A MISTAKE -- BUT IF YOU'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT THE GREAT ACCOMPLISHMENTS OUR COUNTY IS ACTUALLY ACCOMPLISHING. SO THANK YOU FOR THIS WORK. MOST GRATEFUL.

>> AND THIS IS A GRANT THAT DOES NOT REQUIRE ANY MATCHING

FROM THE COUNTY. >> I WHOLEHEARTEDLY AS A FISCAL CONSERVATIVE CHEAPSKATE AM MOST PROUD OF THIS WORK AND I THANK

YOU, JUDGE. >> AND, JUDGE, WE ARE EXTREMELY HAPPY ABOUT THIS GRANT OPPORTUNITY AND WE HAVE BEEN WANTING TO ENHANCE THOSE SERVICES TO THOSE THAT NEED THE MENTAL HEALTH CARE. AND SO THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO DO THAT. AND I JUST REALLY WANT TO THANK JUDGE BROWN AND AMY FOR ALL THAT THEY DO. THEY HAVE BEEN A LEADER AND THEY HAVE

BEEN A GREAT ONE. >> I JUST --

>> OKAY. >> SURE.

>> CONGRATULATIONS, FIRST OF ALL, JUDGE. THIS IS SOMETHING I HAVE REALLY BEEN HOPING TO SEE US DEVELOP IN THE COUNTY. JUST UNDERSTANDING THOSE WE KNOW ARE SUFFERING FROM SUBSTANCE AND MENTAL HEALTH IN OUR COMMUNITY. SOME OF WHICH UNFORTUNATELY BECOME PART OF OUR CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM THAT THE LONG-TERM GOAL WOULD BE TO PROVIDE SERVICES TO THEM BEFORE THAT HAPPENS, AND I THINK THAT IS THE RIGHT WAY TO DO THIS. IT IS A STEP I THINK WOULD BE VERY HUGE AND IMPORTANT FOR OUR COUNTY SO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR DOING THIS.

>> AND I KNOW YOU ALL HEARD ME SAY THIS, BUT THE SUPPLEMENTAL OUTPATIENT, FOR THOSE WHO DON'T UNDERSTAND, IT'S -- IT'S THE OPTION OUT THERE FOR PEOPLE WHO STILL WANT TO BE FUNCTIONING MEMBERS OF OUR SOCIETY WHILE THEY ARE GOING TO THIS PROCESS AND CAN'T AFFORD NOT TO. AND I PUT IT THAT WAY BECAUSE, WHENEVER WE TALK ABOUT SUPPLEMENTAL OUTPATIENT, ESPECIALLY IN THE SUBSTANCE SIDE, THOSE FOLKS ARE TRYING TO ADDRESS AN ISSUE THAT HAS OCCURRED IN THEIR LIVES AND WHO KNOWS WHAT THEY'RE GOING THROUGH, BUT THEY ARE STILL TRYING TO MAINTAIN A JOB, SUPPORTIVE FAMILY, BE MEMBERS OF OUR SOCIETY. THEY CAN TAKE 30 DAYS OFF OR MISSED THAT MORTGAGE PAYMENT OR CAN'T NOT PAY THE ELECTRIC BILL. AND THIS IS A WAY FOR THEM TO STAY AT WORK AND CONTINUED TO A PROCESS AND STILL GET THE HELP THAT THEY NEED. IT IS A BIG PART OF WHAT MAKES IT A SUCCESSFUL PROGRAM. SO I AM REALLY EXCITED THAT WE ARE ABLE TO ADD IT AND WE HAVE WORKED ON IT FOR A LONG TIME AND I KNOW YOU HAVE ALL WORKED ON IT A LOT LONGER SO

I'M APPRECIATIVE. >> AND THE NONVERBAL'S ARE THE STATE AND THE FEDERAL IS THE RIGHT THING TO DO. AND WE ARE HELPING TO PUT OUR MONEY WHERE OUR MOUTH IS. AND WE ARE MOST GRATEFUL TO HAVE YOU REACHING FOR IT AND BRING IT TO

OUR COMMUNITY. >> ONE THING I WOULD ADD IS WE HAVE A LOT OF PLANNING TO DO WITH REGARD TO THE GRANTS.

THERE ARE A LOT OF REQUIREMENTS WE HAVE TO FOLLOW IN ADDITION TO ACCEPTING THE GRAND. WE STILL HAVE A LOT OF WORK TO DO.

SO THE FIRST PARTICIPANTS PROBABLY WILL NOT HAPPEN UNTIL FEBRUARY OF 2025. I JUST WANTED TO LET YOU ALL KNOW THAT. THERE IS A LOT OF WORK THAT HAS TO GO ON BEHIND THE SCENES. SO WE ARE WORKING ON THAT AND WILL KEEP YOU ALL INFORMED AS WE MOVE FORWARD. I KNOW THAT KAIMEY STILL HAS THE NEWSLETTER FOR THE MENTAL HEALTH COURT AND I THINK SHE WANTED TO PRODUCE

THAT TODAY AS WELL. >> THANK YOU. WE ARE A BETTER COUNTY TODAY BECAUSE OF YOU. PLEASE CALL THE ROLE.

[J.1. PLN-2574-PC; Hold a Public Hearing; followed by discussion regarding Appaloosa Acres, Lot 34, Replat. INGALSBE/MACHACEK]

>> AND JUDGE BECERRA. >> YES. THANK YOU, ALL .

>> LET US GO TO J1. >> J1. WHAT A PUBLIC HEARING FOLLOWED BY DISCUSSION OF APPALOOSA ACRES, LOT 34,

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REPLAT. >> I SEE NO MOVEMENT. I CLOSED THE PUBLIC HEARING. WHAT SAY YOU?

>> GOOD MORNING, COMMISSIONERS AND JUDGE BECERRA. I AM WITH THE HAYS COUNTY PLANNING DEPARTMENT. THIS PROJECT APPALOOSA ACRES, LOT 34, REPLAT WILL CREATE TWO AND HALF PLOTS ACROSS AKERS. WATERS BEING PROVIDED BY THE SPECIAL UTILITIES DISTRICT AND INDIVIDUAL ON-SITE SEWAGE FACILITIES. THIS SITE IS LOCATED ACROSS APPALOOSA WAY.

IT IS COMPLETED ACCORDING TO CHAPTER 232 AND THE CURRENT DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS AS SET FORTH. STAFF HAS ALSO PROVIDED THE OWNER AND APPLICANT WITH AN ADMINISTRATIVE DISAPPROVAL LETTER. THE APPLICANT AND OWNER WILL WORK THROUGH THE DEFICIENCIES AS OUTLINED IN THE DISAPPROVAL LETTER, WHICH IS ALSO LOCATED IN THE BACKUP AND ONCE ALL DEFICIENCIES ARE REMEDIED THE PROJECT WILL BE BROUGHT BACK TO COMMISSIONERS COURT TO SEEK FINAL DETERMINATION.

>> THANK YOU. SO, JUDGE, I WILL MAKE A MOTION FOR DISAPPROVAL.

[J.2. PLN-2446-PC; Hurlbut Ranch West, Tract 20B, Replat (2 Lots). Discussion and possible action to consider granting a variance to Chapter 715 § 3.01(C) of the Hays County Development Regulations; followed by discussion and possible action regarding the final determination. SHELL/MACHACEK]

>> SECOND. >> PLEASE CALL THE ROLE.

>> COMMISSIONER INGALSBE. >> S. JUDGE BECERRA.

>> S. DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO CONSIDER GRANTING A VARIANCE TO CHAPTER 715 ÷ 3.01(C) OF THE HAYS COUNTY DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS; FOLLOWED BY DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION REGARDING THE FINAL DETERMINATION.

>> SO MOVED. >> I WILL INTRODUCE AND THEN LET COLBY TAKE OVER. A SUBDIVISION OCCURRED. THE LOT THAT WERE CREATED WERE LESS THAN COULD HAVE BEEN CREATED WITH THE EXEMPTION THAT WAS APPLIED. SINCE THEN, AND PART OF THAT IS A NOTE THAT NO SUBDIVISION FOR A CERTAIN PERIOD OF TIME. SINCE THEN, THE OWNER WISHES TO CREATE AN ADDITIONAL LOT WHICH WOULD HAVE BEEN ABLE TO BE AUTHORIZED WITH THE CURRENT EXEMPTION IN PLACE AT THE TIME OF THE PREVIOUS PLOT, AND NOW ASKS THAT WE ALLOW THEM TO CREATE THE ONE LOT WHICH IS STILL LESS THAN WHAT COULD HAVE BEEN CREATED, AND THAT IS THE VARIANCE THEY ARE ASKING FOR AND THE REASON I SUPPORT THINGS LIKE THIS IS WE DO NOT WANT THE COMMUNITY TO DEVELOP TO THE MAXIMUM DENSITY JUST IN CASE KNOWING THAT THEY WOULD NEVER BE ABLE TO COME BACK AND MAYBE ADD ONE LOT THAT IS STILL WITHIN THE LIMIT THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN APPROVED AT THE

TIME. >> VERY GOOD MOVEMENT. IS THERE

ANYTHING MORE TO CONTRIBUTE? >> YES. JUST TO EMPHASIZE ON SOME OF THE OCCURRENCES HERE, SO THE ORIGINAL PLOT WAS RECORDED BACK ON JULY 28TH LAST YEAR. SO THAT SUBDIVISION, THEY COME BACK IN FEBRUARY OF THIS YEAR FOR ANOTHER REPLY TO GREAT JUST THAT ONE ADDITIONAL LOT. AND, OF COURSE, STAFF IS HELD TO THE TEXAS LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE CHAPTER 232 0032. SO AS OF THIS MOMENT STAFF IS TRYING TO UPHOLD LEGISLATIVE RULES. THEY ARE ALSO TRYING TO UPHOLD REGULATIONS AS THEY ARE SET FORTH. BUT, AGAIN, AS COMMISSIONER SHELL STATED, THE

REQUESTS HAVE BEEN MADE. >> AND ON THE GROUND WATER AVAILABILITY, WHAT DID YOU DO ON THAT PART?

>> SO IT WAS EMPHASIZED OF COURSE THEY WOULD NEED TO DO THE GROUNDWATER AVAILABLE STUDY. THEY ARE STILL UNDER THE FIVE LOT THRESHOLD AS OUTLINED UNDER CHAPTER 715.

>> SO THE OLD STUDY STILL APPLIES?

>> IT IS AN EXEMPTION. >> YES, SIR.

>> ANYTHING NEW TO CONTRIBUTE? NO. PLEASE CALL THE ROLE.

[J.3. PLN-2445-PC; Ratify Approval of the Los Ranchos, Lots PT of 21 & 22, Replat. SMITH/MACHACEK]

>> COMMISSIONER INGALSBE. >> YES. JUDGE BECERRA.

>> PLEASE OPEN J3. >> J3. PLN-2445-PC. RATIFY APPROVAL OF THE LOST RANCHES LOTS PARTS 21 AND 22 REPLANT.

>> SECOND. >> SO MOVED.

>> ALL RIGHT. IS THIS COLBY OR MARCUS?

>> GOOD MORNING, JUDGE AND COMMISSIONERS. SO THIS ITEM BEFORE YOU IS THE RATIFICATION OF A FINAL PLOT APPROVAL OR RE-PLAT APPROVAL FOR LOS RANCHOS, PLOTS 21 AND 22. THE SUBDIVISION IS A FIVE LOT SUBDIVISION ACROSS 7.4 ACRES.

[02:25:09]

THIS PROPERTY, WATER WILL BE PROVIDED BY INDIVIDUAL PRIVATE WELLS AND WASTEWATER WILL BE PROVIDED BY INDIVIDUAL ON-SITE FACILITIES. SO THE ITEM IS RATIFICATION AND STAFF HAS REVIEWED IT AND IT HAS MET STATE STATUTES IDENTIFIED PURSUANT TO PLOTTING. IT IS RECOMMENDED.

>> PLEASE CALL THE ROLE. >> I DO HAVE ONE CLARIFICATION.

IF YOU HAVE NOTICED, IT IS NOT A APPROVAL OR DISAPPROVAL BUT A RATIFICATION. AND WE ARE GOING TO SEE MORE OF THESE GIVEN THE CHANGE IN STATUTE. IS IS THE FIRST ONE?

>> WE HAVE HAD A FEW. BUT WE MAY WANT TO CLARIFY THAT.

>> WE THINK IT MAY BE HELPFUL IN OUR GENDER PROCESS THAT WE HAVE 20 OF THESE THAT ARE JUST TO BE RATIFIED. AND I HAVE DISCUSSED THIS WITH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES. THEY ALL MET THE STATUTE. WE ALL STATUTORILY HAVE TO COMPLETE IT. SO IT MAY BE A THING WERE IN THE FUTURE WE CAN JUST SAY RATIFICATION OF

ALL THESE ITEMS. >> YES. AND I FAILED TO GIVE THE FULL PICTURE WHEN I FIRST SPOKE IN COURT. RATIFICATION IN ALL CASES, THIS IS THE SECOND TIME THAT YOU ARE SEEING THIS ITEM ON A CORE AGENDA BECAUSE IF YOU ALL RECALL, WHENEVER WE HAVE THE ITEM FOR POSSIBLE DISAPPROVAL, WE ALWAYS MAKE A MOTION FOR STAFF TO WORK WITH THE APPLICANT. THE PURPOSE FOR THE RATIFICATION IS FOR THE PLOT TO ACTUALLY HAVE SO WHEN IT WAS APPROVED IN COURT FOR THE PURPOSE OF RECORDING THAT

DOCUMENT. >> IS TRULY JUST TECHNICAL FOR

US TO HAVE IT APPEAR. >> PLEASE CALL THE ROLE.

>> COMMISSIONER SMITH. >> S.

[J.4. PLN-2351-NP; Ratify Approval of the B&C Storage, Final Plat. INGALSBE/MACHACEK]

>> COMMISSIONER INGALSBE. >> YES. JUDGE BECERRA.

>> S. J4. >> J4. RATIFY APPROVAL OF THE

B&C STORAGE FINAL PLAT. >> PLEASE CALL THE ROLE.

>> WHO IS TAKING THIS? >> I DON'T MIND SPEAKING ON IT

AGAIN, COMMISSIONER. >> IT IS VERY SIMILAR TO THE LAST ITEM. I CAN GET TO THE SPECIFIC DETAILS. IT COSTS 4.013 AKERS. IS PROVIDED BY INDIVIDUAL PRIVATE WELL AN INDIVIDUAL SEWAGE. STATE STATUTE MEETS ALL REQUIREMENTS.

[I.1. Discussion and possible action to authorize the execution of Contract Amendment No. 8 in the amount of $64.396.84 to the Professional Services Agreement between Hays County and Johnson, Mirmiran, & Thomas, Inc. (JMT) for professional design services on the FM 110 Middle project in Precinct 1, as part of the TxDOT/Hays County Partnership Program, utilizing a discretionary exemption pursuant to Texas Local Government Code Ch. 262.024(a)(4). INGALSBE/BORCHERDING]

>> THANK YOU. PLEASE CALL THE ROLE.

>> COMMISSIONER SHELL. >> YES. JUDGE BECERRA.

>> I-1. >> I-1. PROFESSIONAL DESIGN SERVICES ON THE FM 110 LITTLE CONFLICT IN PRECINCT 1 AS PART OF THE TXDOT/HAYS COUNTY PARTNERSHIP PROGRAM, UTILIZING A DISCRETIONARY EXEMPTION PURSUANT TO TEXAS LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE CH. 262.024(A)(4).

>> AND, JUDGE, THIS RELATES TO HYDRAULICS AND MAPPING BASED ON THE MOST CURRENT PHYSICAL MAP PROVISION.

>> ALL RIGHT. PLEASE CALL THE ROLE.

>> I WILL ABSTAIN FROM THIS. I BELIEVE THIS IS THE FIRM THAT RECENTLY PURCHASED THE FIRM THAT MY WIFE WORKS FOR. I SHOULD BE MORE KNOWLEDGEABLE OF THAT BUT JUST IN CASE IT IS

I'M GOING TO ABSTAIN. >> YES, SIR.

[I.2. Hold a public hearing with possible action to establish a 4-way stop location on Goforth Road at the intersection with Mathias Lane. INGALSBE/BORCHERDING]

>> COMMISSIONER INGALSBE? >> YES.

>> COMMISSIONER COHEN? >> YES.

>> I-1. >> PLEASE OPEN I-2.

>> I-2. HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING WITH POSSIBLE ACTION TO ESTABLISH A 4-WAY STOP LOCATION ON GOFORTH ROAD AT THE INTERSECTION WITH MATHIAS LANE .

>> PLEASE CALL THE ROLE. >> OH, MY GOODNESS. I WAS STILL READING SOMETHING ELSE. ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK FOR AGAINST THIS AGENDA ITEM PLEASE APPROACH THE PODIUM. NO

MOVEMENT. >> JUDGE, FOR SAFETY RELATED ISSUES, WE HAVE DETERMINED THAT A FOUR-WAY STOP WOULD BE

[I.3. Hold a public hearing with possible action to establish a 3-way stop location on Center Point Road at the intersection with Beback Inn Road. INGALSBE/BORCHERDING]

APPROPRIATE AT THIS INTERSECTION.

>> I ALWAYS APPRECIATE THESE. PLEASE CALL THE ROLE.

>> MR. INGALSBE. >> YES.

>> I-3. HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING WITH POSSIBLE ACTION TO

>> JUDGE BECERRA. >> S.

[02:30:03]

ESTABLISH A 3-WAY STOP LOCATION ON CENTER POINT ROAD AT THE INTERSECTION WITH BEBACK INN ROAD.

>> I SEE NO MOVEMENT. COMMISSIONER?

>> JUDGE, AGAIN, A SAFETY ISSUE HERE. THERE IS A BLIND HILL COMING OVER CENTER POINT ROAD SO IT IS APPROPRIATE TO

[Items I.4 & I.5]

ESTABLISH THIS FOR THAT SAFETY ASPECT.

>> WELL DONE. PLEASE CALL THE ROLE.

>> MR. INGALSBE? >> YES.

>> COMMISSIONER COHEN. >> IT'S I-3.

>> I-4 AND 5. >> DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO CALL FOR A PUBLIC HEARING ON OCTOBER 15, 2024, TO ESTABLISH "NO PARKING" ZONES ALONG DAIRY ROAD. DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO CALL FOR A PUBLIC HEARING ON OCTOBER 15, 2024 TO REDUCE THE CURRENT SPEED LIMIT OF 30 MPH TO 25 MPH WITHIN CROSSWINDS SUBDIVISION.

[I.6. Discussion and possible action to consider the acceptance of road construction and surface drainage improvements, release of the performance bond #K41681767 in the amount of $2,934,946.93, and acceptance of the maintenance bond #2343810 in the amount of $135,044.31, for Prairie Lakes Phase 2, Section 1. COHEN/BORCHERDING]

>> SECOND. >> PLEASE CALL THE ROLE.

>> COMMISSIONER INGALSBE. >> S.

>> COMMISSIONER SMITH. >> S. JUDGE BECERRA .

>> S. I6. >> RELEASE OF THE PERFORMANCE BOND NUMBER K41681767 IN IN THE AMOUNT OF $2,934,946.93, AND ACCEPTANCE OF THE MAINTENANCE BOND NUMBER 2343810 IN THE AMOUNT OF $135,044.31, FOR PRAIRIE LAKES PHASE 2, SECTION

[G. CONSENT ITEMS]

1. >> SO MOVED.

>> PLEASE CALL THE ROLE. >> COMMISSIONER SMITH.

>> YES. JUDGE BECERRA. >> YES. LET'S OPEN UP THE REST

OF THE CONSENT . >> G-1 -- I'M SORRY. G-1 APPROVED THE PAYMENT OF COUNTY INVOICES. G 2. PREPAYMENT OF JURORS CHECKS. G 3. AUTHORIZED AN ADDITIONAL DISBURSEMENT IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $5000 TO THE HEALTHCARE CLAIMS ACCOUNT. G4. APPROVE COMMISSIONERS COURT MINUTES OF SEPTEMBER 17, 2024. G5. APPROVE THE PAYMENT OF THE OCTOBER 15, 2024 PAYROLL DISBURSEMENTS IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $4,500,000.00 EFFECTIVE OCTOBER 15, 2024 AND POST TOTALS FOR WAGES, WITH-HOLDINGS, DEDUCTIONS AND BENEFITS ON THE HAYS COUNTY WEBSITE ONCE FINALIZED. APPROVED THE DELIVERY OF THE AUDITORS OFFICE QUARTERLY INTERNAL EXAMINATION REPORTS. G 7. UP OF THE MAY 2024 ENGINE 24 FOUR TREASURES REPORTS. G 8. AUTHORIZE THE EXECUTION OF A RENEWAL AGREEMENT FOR $33,281.40 FOR WESTLAW ONLINE LEGAL RESEARCH SERVICES FOR USE BY HAYS COUNTY JUDGES AND STAFF. G 9.

AUTHORIZE THE EXECUTION OF A RENEWAL AGREEMENT FOR $41,658.24 FOR WESTLAW PATRON ACCESS FOR USE BY HAYS COUNTY LAW LIBRARY PATRONS. G 10. AUTHORIZE THE EXECUTION OF THE ANNUAL RENEWAL AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE HAYS COUNTY PARKS DEPARTMENT/COUNTYWIDE OPERATIONS AND SHI INTERNATIONAL IN THE AMOUNT OF $9,365.85 FOR CONTINUED ACCESS TO THE ONLINE RESERVATION SYSTEMS WITH CHECKFRONT. SHE 11. AUTHORIZE PAYMENT TO RED RIVER RESTORATION IN THE AMOUNT OF $2,499.50 FOR ADDITIONAL WORK NEEDED TO REPAIR AND REPLACE DAMAGED WINDOW PANES AT THE HISTORIC COURTHOUSE AND AMEND THE BUDGET ACCORDINGLY. G12. AUTHORIZE THE ACCEPTANCE OF A GRANT AWARD FROM THE OFFICE OF THE GOVERNOR, FY25 BODY WORN CAMERA GRANT PROGRAM IN THE AMOUNT OF $215,049.86 AND AMEND THE BUDGET ACCORDINGLY.. G13. AUTHORIZE THE ACCEPTANCE OF AMENDMENT NUMBER 4 TO THE DEPARTMENT OF STATE HEALTH SERVICES, INFECTIOUS DISEASE CONTROL UNIT - COVID-19 (IDCU-COVID-19) GRANT AWARD AND AMEND THE BUDGET ACCORDINGLY. . G15 TREND AUTHORIZE THE SUBMISSION OF A GRANT APPLICATION TO THE FLINT HILLS RESOURCES HELPING HEROES GRANT PROGRAM IN THE AMOUNT OF $10,000.00. G 16. AUTHORIZE THE HAYS COUNTY CONSTABLE, PCT. 4 OFFICE TO ACCEPT A $100.00 DONATION FROM MR. ANTHONY ALLEN OF DRIPPING SPRINGS AND AMEND THE BUDGET ACCORDINGLY. G17. APPROVE THE CANCELATION OF THE HAYS COUNTY COMMISSIONERS COURT ON THE FOLLOWING DATES IN 2025: JANUARY 14 AND 28, FEBRUARY 4 AND 18, MARCH 11 AND 18, APRIL 1,15,AND 29, MAY 13 AND 27, JUNE 3 AND 17, JULY 1, 15 AND

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22, AUGUST 26, SEPTEMBER 9 AND 23, OCTOBER 7 AND 21, NOVEMBER 4, 11 AND 25, DECEMBER 9, 23 AND 30. G18. APPROVE AND OF $606.00 TO THE SAN MARCOS NT- DAILY RECORD RELATED TO PUBLISHING A NOTICE RELATED TO THE MUNICIPAL SEPARATE STORM SEWER SYSTEM (MS4) PROGRAM AS REQUIRED BY THE TEXAS COMMISSION ON ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY (TCEQ), WHERE NO PURCHASE ORDER WAS OBTAINED AS REQUIRED PER THE HAYS COUNTY PURCHASING POLICY. G19. AUTHORIZE THE EXECUTION OF THE SOCIAL SERVICE AGENCY CONTRACTS AS APPROVED IN THE FISCAL YEAR 2025 BUDGET. G20 AUTHORIZE THE EXECUTION OF A SECOND AMENDMENT WITH WELLPATH, LLC. FOR THE ADULT AND JUVENILE FACILITIES HEALTHCARE PROGRAM CONTRACT PURSUANT TO RFP 2021-P04. G21 AUTHORIZE THE OFFICE OF EMERGENCY SERVICES TO AMEND THE BUDGET TO PAY FOR ADDITIONAL CHARGES RELATED TO THE INSTALLATION OF LIGHTS AND SIRENS FOR THE 2023 CHEVROLET 1500. G22 APPROVE UTILITY PERMITS. G23 AUTHORIZE THE EXECUTION OF A TEXAS WORKFORCE COMMISSION DATA EXCHANGE REQUEST AND SAFEGUARD PLAN RELATED TO AN INFORMATION RELEASE CONTRACT FOR THE HAYS COUNTY CONSTABLE'S OFFICE FOR PRECINCT 1. G24. AUTHORIZE THE COUNTY JUDGE TO SUPPORT THE CENTRO CULTURAL HISPANO DE SAN MARCOS RELATED TO THE 2024 HISPANIC HERITAGE EXHIBITION WALK KICK-OFF EVENT FOR HISPANIC HERITAGE MONTH. G25. APPROVE SPECIFICATIONS FOR IFB 2025-B02 HAULING SOLID WASTE AND AUTHORIZE PURCHASING TO ADVERTISE AND SOLICIT FOR BIDS. G 27. APPROVE CONTRACT CHANGE ORDER 1 FOR TASMAN GEOSCIENCES, INC. DBA TASMAN, INC. IN THE AMOUNT OF $8,716.00, PURSUANT TO IFB 2024-B06 SENTINEL PEAK - ASBESTOS ABATEMENT AND BUILDING ÚDEMOLITION, INCREASING THE CONTRACT 4.5%.. G 28. APPROVE SPECIFICATIONS FOR RFQ 2025-Q01 PROFESSIONAL SERVICES POOL AND AUTHORIZE PURCHASING AND SOLICIT FOR BIDS.. G 29. AUTHORIZE THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE TO RENEW THE AGENCY AGREEMENT WITH LEADS ONLINE, LLC, IN THE AMOUNT OF $11,245.00 ANNUALLY, AND AUTHORIZE A DISCRETIONARY EXEMPTION PURSUANT TO TEXAS LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE 262.024

(A)(7)(A). >> SO MOVED.

>> SECOND. >> WHAT A MOUTHFUL AND WELL-DONE. EVERY TIME WE GET YOU A LONG REMINDER THAT TO WEED AND YOU EXECUTE IT SO WELL I FEEL LIKE I HAVE GOT TO SAY THANKS. OKAY. SO PLEASE START A TIMER FOR MR. DAN LYON FOR G

25. >> PLEASE BEAR WITH ME. A BIT OF PERSONAL BACKGROUND INFORMATION IS GERMANE TO THIS AGENDA ITEM. OKAY. I WOULD LIKE YOU TO DONATE TO MY FAVORITE CHARITY, COMPASSION INTERNATIONAL, WHICH DOES FAR MORE FOR THE ROSEBUD HISPANIC COMMUNITY THAN CENTRO. BUT I DO NOT BELIEVE IT IS RIGHT TO USE COUNTY FUNDS. BY THE WAY, I HAVE SUPPORTED COMPASSION INTERNATIONAL FOR OVER 20 YEARS AND THE TWO CHILDREN I AM SPONSORING OUR HISPANIC. ONE IS FROM BOLIVIA ON THE OTHER ARE FROM THE DOMINICAN REPUBLIC. AS A MATTER FACT, EVERY OTHER CHILD I HAVE ARE SPONSORED OVER THE LAST 50 YEARS ARE HISPANIC FROM SOUTH OR CENTRAL AMERICA.

I TELL YOU THIS NOT TO RECEIVE PRAISE BUT TO DISPEL THE MYTH THAT MY OBJECTION IS SOMEHOW MOTIVATED BY PREJUDICE. ALL RIGHT. THIS BACKGROUND INFORMATION THAT I GOT HERE IS TALKING ABOUT THE WALK ON SEPTEMBER 14TH. THAT IS ALREADY DONE. I DO NOT KNOW HOW MUCH MONEY YOU WANT TO DONATE TO CENTRO. BUT , NOW, WE SHOULD NOT BE USING COUNTY FUNDS FOR THIS. IT IS A PRIVATE ORGANIZATION. THEY HAVE KIND OF SHANGHAIED THE BUILDING IN MY OPINION. THEY HAVE GOTTEN THAT BUILDING FROM THE SCHOOL DISTRICT, WHICH IS A VERY VALUABLE PIECE OF PROPERTY AND THEY HAVE TAKEN IT OFF THE MARKET. AND, NOW, THEY ARE ASKING FOR COUNTY FUNDS FOR WHATEVER. I THINK IT IS T-SHIRTS BUT I AM NOT SURE.

NOW, THIS IS WRONG. IT IS JUST PLAIN WRONG. THIS IS THE WAY

[02:40:04]

THAT THE INDIGENOUS CULTURES CENTER STARTED, AND NOW WE ARE ON THE HOOK FOR $5 MILLION FOR THAT, WHICH NO ONE REALLY UNDERSTOOD THAT WE WERE GOING TO PAY FOR THAT AND THEY THOUGHT IT WAS ALL A PARK BECAUSE YOU PUT IT ON THE PARKS

BOND, AND THAT IS WRONG, TOO. >> YES.

>> THANK YOU. NOW, WE HAVE SPENT ALREADY $191,000 FOR THE REMEDIATION OF THE ASBESTOS ON THIS BUILDING CARE. AND, NOW, WE ARE ASKING FOR ANOTHER $8716. AND I THOUGHT THERE WAS ANOTHER REQUEST FOR $14,000 EARLIER, BUT I COULD BE WRONG.

ANYWAY, IT IS AROUND $200,000 WE HAVE ALREADY POURED DOWN THIS RATHOLE. SOMEWHERE, WE HAVE GOT TO CUT OUR LOSSES.

THIS IS RIDICULOUS. YOU ALL SHOULD HAVE KNOWN THIS PROBLEM WAS GOING TO HAPPEN BEFORE YOU PUT IT ON THE BALLOT.

APPARENTLY YOU DIDN'T, OR I WILL BELIEVE YOU IF YOU TELL ME YOU DIDN'T KNOW IT. BUT I■T S HARD TO BELIEVE THAT YOU DID NOT KNOW IT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> COMMISSIONERS, ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS?

>> JUST THAT THIS CHANGE ORDER FOR THE SINGLE PEAK ABATEMENT AND DEMOLITION IS OUR QUEST. WE ARE CLEANING UP OTHER STRUCTURES. IT WAS ABSOLUTELY KNOWN WHEN THIS WAS PLACED ON THE BALLOT. WE KNEW OF ALL THE BUILDINGS THAT EXISTED. WE KNEW WE WERE GOING TO TEAR BUILDINGS DOWN. WE KNEW WE WERE GOING TO TEAR UP ROADS AND BUILD A PARK AND GET CREDITS. RENEW ALL OF THOSE THINGS AND THAT IS WHAT WE ARE DOING. WE CANNOT HAVE THE FACILITYOPEN IF WE DO NOT DECONSTRUCT THE THINGS THAT ARE NOT NEEDED AND CONSTRUCT THE THINGS THAT ARE NEEDED TO OPERATE THE FACILITY. IF WE DON'T HAVE A FENCE OR A ROAD, THAT WAS ALL KNOWN. IF WE KNEW WHAT THE PROPERTY WAS ONLY PURCHASED IT, WE KNEW WE WOULD BE SPENDING MONEY AND THAT WAS WHAT THOSE MONIES WERE ALLOCATED FOR IN THE PROGRAM.

>> AND IN RETURN, ALSO, IF WE DON'T DO THESE THINGS THAT ARE VIEWED AS NECESSARY THEN YOU WILL BE VIEWED AS NEGLECTFUL.

>> OBVIOUSLY, WHEN I AM GONE, THIS COURT CAN DECIDE.

>> WE ARE KEEPING IT FOREVER. >> WE DON'T ALL HAVE TO LOVE EVERY PROJECT. I UNDERSTAND THERE ARE PLENTY OF PEOPLE OUT THERE THAT DON'T, BUT IT WAS SUPPORTED BY THE VOTER. IT WAS A NAMED PROJECT AND THAT PROJECT INCLUDES GETTING THAT PROPERTY READY TO BE A PARK AND A RESERVE.

>> PLEASE CALL THE ROLE. >> COMMISSIONER COHEN.

[K.1. Discussion and possible action to authorize the execution of a Dripping Springs Ranch Park (DSRP) Voting Location License Agreement between the City of Dripping Springs and Hays County. SMITH/DOINOFF]

>> COMMISSIONER COHEN? >> YES. JUDGE BECERRA.

>> YES. >> IF I AM NOT DISC --

MISTAKEN, WE ARE GOING TO K1. >> DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO AUTHORIZE THE EXECUTION OF A DRIPPING SPRINGS

[K.2. Discussion and possible action to award a contract to Freese & Nichols for Development Regulations and Standards Updates pursuant to RFQ 2024-Q03, and authorize staff, and the Criminal District Attorney, Civil Division to negotiate a contract. SHELL/PACHECO]

RANCH PARK (DSRP) VOTING LOCATION LICENSE AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY OF DRIPPING SPRINGS AND HAYS COUNTY.

>> PLEASE CALL THE ROLE. >> K2.

>> AWARD A CONTRACT TO FREESE & NICHOLS FOR DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS AND STANDARDS UPDATES PURSUANT TO RFQ 2024-Q03, AND AUTHORIZE STAFF, AND THE CRIMINAL DISTRICT ATTORNEY, CIVIL DIVISION TO NEGOTIATE A CONTRACT.

[K.5. Discussion and possible action to appoint Brian McAuliffe, Cliff Ormiston, and Eric Gutierrez as assistant tabulation supervisors for the November Central Counting Station and revise the Judge/Alternate Judge appointees to accommodate some changes to previous appointees. SHELL/DOINOFF]

>> SO MOVED. >> SECOND.

>> PLEASE CALL THE ROLE. >> COMMISSIONER SHELL.

>> YES. >> COMMISSIONER INGALSBE.

>> S. JUDGE BECERRA. >> YES.

>> K5. >> K5. DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO APPOINT BRIAN MCAULIFFE, CLIFF ORMISTON, AND ERIC GUTIERREZ AS ASSISTANT TABULATION SUPERVISORS FOR THE NOVEMBER CENTRAL COUNTING STATION AND REVISE THE JUDGE/ALTERNATE JUDGE APPOINTEES TO ACCOMMODATE SOME CHANGES TO PREVIOUS APPOINTEES.

[K.7. Discussion and possible action to adopt the Hays County FY 2025 Holiday Calendar. INGALSBE]

>> SO MOVED. >> SECOND.

>> PLEASE CALL THE ROLE. >> COMMISSIONER INGALSBE?

>> S. >> COMMISSIONER SMITH.

>> S. JUDGE BECERRA. >> S. OKAY. K7.

>> K7. DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO ADOPT THE HAYS COUNTY

FY 2025 HOLIDAY CALENDAR. >> ANY COMMENTS?

[K.8. Discussion and possible action to authorize the execution of an amendment to the Interlocal Agreement with Guadalupe-Blanco River Authority (GBRA) regarding the implementation of the Plum Creek Watershed Protection Plan (PCWPP). INGALSBE/T.CRUMLEY]

>> JUST TRIED TO STAY CONSISTENT WITH WHAT WE HAVE

DONE IN THE PAST. >> PLEASE CALL THE ROLE.