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[A. CALL TO ORDER]

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THE MAJORITY, LET'S ASK COMMISSIONER SMITH TO LEAD US IN PRAYER IF YOU WOULD PLEASE ALL RISE.

>> WE THANK YOU FOR WATCHING OVER US TODAY. WE ASK THAT YOU CONTINUE TO WATCH OVER OUR LAWYERS AND CITIZENS IN THE COUNTY AND GIVE US GUIDANCE IN OUR DELIBERATIONS TODAY. WE ASK THAT YOU WATCH OVER OUR FAMILIES OF EMPLOYEES AND SPECIFICALLY JERRY AND HIS FAMILY IN THEIR TIME OF LOSS.

WE ASK THAT YOU OFFER TO HIS FAMILY AND ALL THOSE WHO WORK WITH HIM IN THE COUNTY YOUR QUEEN OF THIS IS A TIME , SOME TIME FOR HEALING. WHILE I LOST LIKE THIS IS NEVER ONE THAT IS WELL AND WILL WE ASK THAT YOU CONTINUE TO WATCH OVER THOSE IN LAW ENFORCEMENT WHO WORK FOR THE COUNTY AND WE ASK THIS IN JESUS NAME, AMEN. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER.

>> I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

>> HONOR THE TEXAS FLAG. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THEE, TEXAS, ONE STATE UNDER GOD, ONE AND INDIVISIBLE.

>> PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. >>

>> YOU HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS? TINY DAY TODAY. I WILL TELL YOU WE HAVE TWO THINGS GOING ON AT 10:00. WE WILL BREAK INTO A SINGULAR ITEM FOR NEGATIVE SESSION AND THEN COME RIGHT BACK OUT AND HANDLE THE REST OF EXECUTIVE SESSION AT THE END WHERE IT IS USUALLY MANAGED. AT 11:00 WE WILL HAVE A BUDGET WORKSHOP. SCHEDULED IS OUR BUDGET OFFICE COORDINATES

[F.1. Adopt a Proclamation recognizing August 2024 as National Breastfeeding Month. COHEN]

THAT. >> F1, ADOPTED A PROCLAMATION RECOGNIZING AUGUST 2024 AS NATIONAL BREAST MEETING MONTH PROCLAMATION RECOGNIZING AUGUST 2024 IS RESTRICTING AWARENESS MONTH WHERE FAMILIES ARE A PRIORITY IN THE COUNTY OF HAYES AND ENSURING THEY RECEIVE SUPPORT AND DEVELOP HEALTHY LIFESTYLES. THE PEDIATRICS AND AMERICAN ACADEMY OF FAMILY PHYSICIANS AND OTHER LEADING HEALTH ORGANIZATIONS.

BREAST-FEEDING IS THE OPTIMAL THIRD ARE INFANTS WHEREAS IT IS ASSOCIATED WITH LOWER RATES OF CHILDHOOD ILLNESS SUCH AS DIABETES AND THE TEXAS DISEASES AS WELL AS A REDUCED RISK OF MATERNAL BREAST AND OVARIAN CANCERS AND A FAST RECOVERY FROM BIRTH. IT AND IF IT'S THE ENTIRE FAMILY AND IS ASSOCIATED WITH LIFELONG HEALTH AND DEVELOPMENT HERE PARENTS DECISION SHOULD BE SUPPORTED BY FAMILY MEMBERS AND THE COMMUNITY HERE WE ARE PROMOTING BEST PRACTICES IN HUMAN MILK FITTING FOR PROVIDERS AND CLINICS ENCOURAGING FAMILIES TO READ HUMAN MILK. ASSISTING LOCAL BUSINESSES AND ORGANIZATIONS TO WELL, BREAST-FEEDING FAMILIES TO SUPPORT LACTATING EMPLOYEES AND HELP FAMILIES MEET THEIR OFF THE MOTH-EATEN GOALS AND WHERE IS DIVIDING US A WARD OF AND WELCOMING ENVIRONMENT, IT IS READING FRIENDLY COMMUNITY ENCOURAGES ALL FAMILIES TO CONTINUE OPTIMAL INFANT FEEDING AND NURSING. THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED THAT THE COURT HEREBY PROCLAIMS THE MONTH OF AUGUST 2024 TO BE BREAST-FEEDING AWARENESS MONTH ADOPTED ON THE SIXTH DAY OF AUGUST, 2024.

>> PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. >>

>> IS THERE SOMEONE FROM THE PROCLAMATION TO SPEAK?

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>> THE OTHER REPRESENTATIVE POINT THE WRONG BUILDING.

>> STATE YOUR NAME AND TITLE. >> MATTHEW GONZALES, DEPARTMENT MANAGER FOR THE HAYS DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH. THANK YOU FOR ADOPTING THIS PROCLAMATION. WE VALUE ANY OPPORTUNITY TO SUPPORT OUR MOTHERS IS THEY ARE GOING THROUGH PREGNANCY AND MOTHERHOOD. THIS IS ONE GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO RECOGNIZE THOSE IN THE COMMUNITY DOING GREAT WORK SUCH AS BREAST-FEEDING SUCCESS. THEY REALLY WORK WITH OUR COMMUNITY MEMBERS AND LOCAL MOTHERS TO TRY TO ADVANCE THEIR OPPORTUNITIES REST MEETING AND GIVING COMMUNITY RESOURCES AND SUPPLIES. I REALIZED THAT I SHOULD HAVE NOTED OUT THE ABBREVIATION OF WIC, WOMEN'S AND CONSENT CHILDREN'S PROGRAM WHICH PROVIDES RESOURCES TO MOTHERS. THAT IS A VALUABLE PARTNERSHIP THAT WE HAVE WITH THE CITY OF SAN MARCUS BENEFITING PEOPLE HERE REGIONALLY AND IN CALDWELL COUNTY AND GUADALUPE NAPIER A BENEFIT IN THIS COUNTY THAT SOME OF THE ORGANIZATIONS WANT TO SUPPORT OUR MOTHERS. THAT BEING SAID, THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT HAS BEEN TRYING TO FOCUS ON OPPORTUNITIES TO PARTNER WITH ORGANIZATIONS THAT SUPPORT MOTHERS HERE TOMORROW

FROM 5:00 TO 7:00 P.M. >> 9:00 TO 12:00.

>> WRONG EVENT. WE ARE GOING TO MULTIPLE TOMORROW. AN EVENT TOMORROW WHICH WILL BE THERE FROM OTHERS. I WILL LET COMMISSIONER COHEN SPEAK TO THAT EVENT. I WANT TO RECOGNIZE OUR STAFF TO SPEAK WITH NEWBORN MOTHERS AND SPECIFICALLY THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT WHICH IS OUR DISEASE SPECIALIST AND NURSE .

THEY PLAY A BIG PART IN HELPING MOTHERS GET TREATMENT IF THEY ARE IDENTIFIED WITH THEIR PREGNANCY ANY DISEASE OR INFECTION, REALLY COMMEND THEM FOR THEIR WORKING

OPPORTUNITIES. >> THE ABOUT THAT IS A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T REALIZE THAT INVESTING IN THESE CRITICAL EARLY MOMENTS OF A YOUNG PERSON'S LIFE WILL BENEFIT OUR COMMUNITIES IMMENSELY, FOR EXAMPLE WITH LEARNING WORK YOU COULD FORWARD LEARNING DISABILITIES IN CERTAIN INSTANCES YOU COULD HELP OVERALL CREATE A FRAMEWORK FOR A ROBUST CONTRIBUTION TO HIS IDENTITY COULD END UP EASILY IN THE JUSTICE SYSTEM OR SOME OTHER THINGS. WORK THANK YOU FOR HIGHLIGHTING THE DETAILS. THEY BABY SHOWER HOSTED BY THE DELTA CHILDREN'S HEALTH PLAN AND CATHOLIC CHARITIES OF CENTRAL TECH THIS. STARTS AT 9:00 A.M. TOMORROW. ADDITIONAL RESOURCES. IT'S GOING TO BE HELD AT THE ST. ANTHONY CAP THE CHURCH IN KAIO. IF YOU CAN MAKE IT, PLEASE ATTEND.

[F.2. Adopt a Proclamation recognizing August 2024 as National Immunization Awareness Month. INGALSBE]

>> THE GROUP IS HERE FOR THE SECOND ONE, RIGHT? IF YOU WOULD

OPEN THE SECOND ONE, F2. >> ADOPT A PROCLAMATION RECOGNIZING AUGUST 24 AS NATIONAL IMMUNIZATION AWARENESS MONTH. PROCLAMATION VISION RECOGNIZING AUGUST 2024 AS IMMUNIZATION AWARENESS MONTH WHERE NATIONAL IMMUNIZATION MONTH IS OBSERVED EVERY AUGUST TO BRING ATTENTION TO THE IMPORTANCE OF THIS. SAVING MILLIONS OF LIVES FROM DISEASES INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO MONTHS, MEASLES, HEPATITIS A AND B, DIP AREA AND TIGHTNESS WHEREAS BACK IN SEVEN PREVENTS-DEFECT, LICENSED AND CAREFULLY MONITORED FOR SAFETY.

WHEREAS THESE ILLNESSES STILL EXIST AND IT IS NARRATIVE THAT ALL PEOPLE REGARDLESS OF AGE SHOULD ENSURE THEY ARE UP-TO-DATE ON RECOMMENDED VACCINES. WHEREAS OUR NATIONS CURRENT BATTLE AGAINST COVID-19 UNDERSCORES THE IMPORTANCE OF AND CONTINUED ADVOCACY FOR IMMUNIZATIONS FOR ALL AGE GROUPS. SINCE JANUARY 1ST, 2024, THE HAYS COUNTY HEALTH DEPARTMENT HAS PROVIDED OVER 100 52 INDIVIDUALS VACCINATIONS. NOW THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED THAT THE MISSION IS COURT DOES HEREBY PROCLAIM THE MONTH OF AUGUST 2024 AS IMMUNIZATION AWARENESS MONTH AND ENCOURAGE ALL RESIDENTS TO CONTACT THEIR PRIMARY HEALTHCARE PROVIDER TO ENSURE THEIR IMMUNIZATIONS AND THOSE OF THEIR FAMILY MEMBERS ARE UP-TO-DATE HERE ADOPTED THIS DAY, THE SIXTH OF AUGUST, 2024.

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GOOD MORNING. THE PROCLAMATION WAS FOR IMMUNIZATION AWARENESS MONTH. BACK TO SCHOOL IS WHERE WE SEE THIS HAPPENING THE MOST IN OUR COMMUNITIES. AS THE PROCLAMATION STATED IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT WE RECEIVE THESE IMMUNIZATIONS AS IT SECURES OUR COMMUNITY NOT ONLY WITHIN THE EDUCATION SYSTEM AS WE SAW IN COVID-19 THAT THERE WAS A LOSS IN EDUCATION AND OPPORTUNITIES DUE TO EDUCATIONAL OPPORTUNITIES HAVING VIRTUALLY.

WE SAW THE ECONOMIC IMPACT OF COVID-19 HAPPENING ON A PEER WHENEVER WE THINK ABOUT VACCINATIONS, WE NEED TO NOT ABOUT IT AS AN INDIVIDUAL, BUT IMMUNITY THING BECAUSE IT IMPACT THIS AT-LARGE IN VARIOUS WAYS. I BROUGHT THE DEPARTMENT HERE WITH US BECAUSE THERE IS A LOT THAT GOES ON BEHIND THE SCENES AT THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT TO PROVIDE THIS TYPE OF WORK TO OUR COMMUNITY. SO AS I SAID HER NAME IF YOU WOULDN'T ONE RECOGNITION. I WOULD LIKE TO RECOGNIZE -- NOW GOING 20 YEARS WITH THE COUNTY. AMELIA FLOREZ, OUR VACCINES ORDINATOR. JOSIE GONZALES, OUR CONTRACT COORDINATOR. LAST OCTOBER, COMING UP ON HER FIRST YEAR, SHE IS OUR IMMUNIZATIONS NURSE, THE FIRST AND PROBABLY OVER NINE YEARS AND WE HAVE OUR OUTREACH NATIONALIST WHO HAS BEEN TREMENDOUS GETTING OUT AND MAKING SURE THAT OUR MOST VULNERABLE POPULATIONS RECEIVE THESE VACCINATIONS. ALSO WITHOUT OUR DIRECT HER, WE WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO GET THIS DONE. THAT'S EVERYTHING.

>> TEAM FOR THE SUCCESSFUL FAIR THAT WE HAD TO LIVE BEFORE. I BELIEVE IT WAS OUR LARGEST EVER. JUST BEEN ROTATING NONSTOP WITH CHILDREN COMING TO GET THEIR IMMUNIZATIONS BACK TO SCHOOL. TREMENDOUS SUCCESS THANKS TO THE TEAM. IMPORTANT FOR YOU AND YOUR HOME BUT ALSO OUR COMMUNITY. IT'S CUSTOMARY.

COME ON UP FOR A PICTURE.

>>> OUR BONDS CANCEL HERE WHICH WILL BE A MEMBER OF J1.

[J.1. Discussion and possible action regarding the development and funding of the 2024 Hays County Transportation Program, including potential projects, the issuance of debt, and bond election procedures. INGALSBE/SHELL]

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>> LET'S DO IT THAT'S OPEN J1 PLEASE. DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION REGARDING DEVELOPMENT AND ENDING OF THE 2024 TRANSPORTATION PROGRAM INCLUDING POTENTIAL OBJECT, THE ISSUANCE OF DEBT AND BOND ELECTION FEATURES.

>> COMMISSIONER. >> I KNOW WE HAVE JULIE HOUSTON, THE BONDS CANCEL HERE. WE HAD A PRESENTATION ON PROJECT. A BOND FOR THE COURT TO CONSIDER AND NOVEMBER ELECTION. COMING UP THERE IN A COUPLE OF WEEKS. WE CAN TALK ABOUT BOND LANGUAGE FOR US AND WHAT THAT MIGHT LOOK LIKE, WHAT WE WOULD NEED TO APPROVE THE COURT CHOSE TO DO SO.

>> GOOD MORNING. I AM WITH THE LAW FIRM, YOUR BOND COUNSEL.

YOU'VE RECEIVED AS YOUR BACKUP A DRAFT ORDER THAT HAD TO BE DISCUSSED AS FAR AS THE INSERTION FOR THE PROJECT. HE IS ALSO PREPARED AT JORDAN POWELL'S REQUEST SCENARIOS. SO LOOK AT THE PROPOSITION AND WHAT THE BALLOT LANGUAGE PUBLIC LIKE. I WOULD LIKE TO INTRODUCE JUSTIN, MY COLLEAGUE WHO WORKS WITH ME ON COUNTY MATTERS. HE IS GOING TO HAND THOSE OUT.

>> I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT WE ARE NOT ADOPTING THE ORDER TODAY. THE DRAFT ORDER WAS JUST PROVIDED SO YOU COULD SEE WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE AND WHAT STATE LAW REQUIRES IT TO BE IN THAT ORDER, CALLING A COUNTY BOND ELECTION. IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT TODAY'S DISCUSSION IS GOING TO FOCUS ON THE PROPER LANGUAGE AND WHICH PROJECT YOU WOULD LIKE TO INCLUDE IN THE PROPER LANGUAGE IF ANY. SO WHAT I'VE DONE HERE IS OUR FOR FOR DIFFERENT SCENARIOS. SCENARIO ONE IS THE STATUTORY REQUIREMENTS. AT A MINIMUM, THIS IS THE INFORMATION THAT WOULD NEED TO BE IN YOUR PROPOSITION FOR A ROAD PROJECT UNDER SECTION 52 OF THE CONSTITUTION. THE MINIMUM REQUIRED TO BE ON THE BALLOT. IT PRETTY MUCH TRACKS THE STATUTORY AND CONSTITUTIONAL LANGUAGE. AND THEN TO CONTRAST THAT, IF YOU LOOK AT SCENARIO NUMBER TWO, THAT INCLUDES THE STATUTORY REQUIREMENTS. IT'S GOING TO STAY IN BLACK, BUT IT INCLUDES A CATEGORY OF THE TRANSPORTATION PROJECT TO BE UNDERTAKEN. SO THAT'S IN RED.

KIND OF A LAUNDRY LIST OF THE TYPES OF ROAD PROJECT.

ENVIRONMENTAL HIGHWAYS, REMEDIATION, PEDESTRIAN WALKWAYS, THAT ARE OUT. THAT WAS JUST ABOUT LOOKING AT THE LARGE LIST OF PROJECT PRESENTED BACK ON JULY 2ND AND KIND OF USING THE CATEGORIES INCLUDED THERE AND SHOWING THE

CATEGORIES AND PROJECT. >> WHILE IT'S AS GOOD AS CATEGORIES, IT ALLOWS THE EVOLUTION OF PROJECT SOME

FLEXIBILITY, CORRECT? >> YEAH. THERE IS ALWAYS A CATCH ALL. IT IS INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO THOSE TYPES OF PROJECT. THEN IF YOU LOOK AT THE PROPOSITION, THE READ THAT HAS BEEN ADDED SUMMARIZES CATEGORIES OF IMPROVEMENTS. IF YOU GO TO SCENARIO THREE, OKAY, THEN, WE HAVE THE STATUTORY REQUIREMENTS IN BLACK. WE ALSO INCLUDED THE CATEGORIES OF THE PROJECT IN RED. THE TRANSPORTATION PROJECT IS GOING TO CONSTRUCTION IN BLUE. YOU CAN SEE WE ARE JUST BUILT ON WHAT WE LOOK AT AND PRIOR SCENARIOS. YOU'VE GOT ALL YOUR CATEGORIES. THIS IS JUST FOR ILLUSTRATION PURPOSES. THESE WERE THE PROJECT THAT WE ARE GOING TO CONSTRUCTION. FOUR

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SCENARIO, YOU GOT THE STATUTORY REQUIREMENTS. YOU'VE GOT THE CATEGORIES OF PROJECT IN RED. WE HAVE A PLACE TO ACTUALLY INSERT NOT JUST THE ONES GOING TO AUCTION BUT THE PROJECT THAT WERE GOING TO BE INITIATED AND IN PROGRESS AND IT LOOKED MUCH LIKE WHAT YOU SEE IN SCENARIO THREE PARAGRAPH TO DELINEATE WHICH ONE IS GOING TO CONSTRUCTION'S WORK ON THING MINUTE TO THINK ABOUT AS REPORT AND INFORMATION HERE IF THE PROJECT IS NOT GOING TO CONSTRUCTION, WE NEED TO BE THERE ABOUT THAT SO THAT VOTERS DON'T GET CONFUSED.

>> I LIKE IT. AND OF THE LANGUAGE GETS PRETTY LONG AND ADDING ALL OF THE PROJECT. I ALSO THINK IT IS IMPORTANT FOR OUR RESIDENTS TO KNOW WHAT'S BEING CONSTRUCTED. WELCOME TO HEAR COMMENTS FROM THE COURT. I CAN IMAGINE HOW LONG THE LANGUAGE IS GOING TO BE IF WE ADD EVERY SINGLE PROJECT ON THE

LIST. >> I'M PARTIAL TO SCENARIO THREE. I LIKE THAT IT'S LISTED OUT THERE FOR ALL OF OUR VOTERS TO ACTUALLY DO WHAT IS GOING ON IN THEIR PRECINCT. IF THIS IS ADOPTED BY THE COURT AND PUT ON THE BALLOT, WE CAN DO OUR PART TO DO THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT AND HELP YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT THIS MEANS FOR THEM, WHERE THEY LIVE AND TRAVEL. I DO LIKE HOW

IT'S DETAILED. >> TO BE CLEAR, I CAN DO THAT FOR THE COUNTY, AS WELL.'S PUT ALL THE PROJECT IN THERE THAT YOU ULTIMATELY DECIDE ON IN THEIR. AND CLARIFY WHICH ONES ARE GOING TO CONSTRUCTION AND I WILL HAVE TO LOOK AT THE LANGUAGE THAT IS USED IN, WITH SOME JUST OPTIONS OF PROJECT THAT ARE JUST GOING THROUGH DESIGN AND PRELIMINARY STAGES.

THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE SCENARIO THREE BUT IT WOULD JUST BE MORE HANDED. IT WAS JUST A LOT OF PROJECTS AND I WASN'T SURE WHICH ONES THE COUNTY WANTED TO PURSUE. I CAN DO THE SAME STRUCTURE THAT YOU SEE IN SCENARIO THREE. WITH ALL THE PROJECT. I CAN DELINEATE WHICH ONES ARE GOING TO INSTRUCTIONS AND WHICH ONES ARE GOING TO DEVELOPMENTAL AND LAND

ACQUISITION PROCESS. >> I RECALL THERE WAS ONE CALL THAT WE DID, AND THE FORMAT WASN'T QUITE LIKE THIS. IT WAS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT CIRCUIT LIST OF THE PROJECT BUT IT WAS IN THIS SAME TYPE OF FORMAT HERE, NOT LISTED IN BULLET

POINTS. >> I'M NOT REAL PARTICULAR ON WHAT THAT FORMAT IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE. EITHER WAY, WE ARE TRYING NOT TO PUT BULLET POINTS. EITHER WAY IS FINE WITH ME. I AGREE THAT JUST NAMING THE PROJECT WITH THE BENEFICIAL, I THINK. WE'VE GOT THE PROPOSITION LANGUAGE THAT WILL GET POSTED ON YOUR INTERNET WEBSITE. IT WILL ALSO BE OUT ALL OF THE POLLING LOCATIONS. WE ALSO HAVE THE BALLOT LANGUAGE. THE BALLOT LANGUAGE CAN NEVER SAY IT MORE THAN THE PROPOSITION. THE ÚBALL THEY ACTUALLY GO TO THE HOLE.

WE CAN DO SOMETHING SHORTER THERE SO YOU DON'T LOSE THEM.

KNOWING THAT THE PROPOSITION IS GOING TO BE ON YOUR WEBSITE.

PART OF THE CONTRACT WITH THE VOTERS.

>> I THINK I KNOW WHERE YOU ARE GOING, JUDGE. FOR ME, FOR SURE, ON THE PROPOSITION LANGUAGE, WE WANT TO BE AS DETAILED AS POSSIBLE. AND WE WANT ALL OF OUR MATERIAL THAT WE USE FOR EDUCATION PURPOSES IN THE PUBLIC TO FOLLOW THAT. AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE EVERYTHING WE ADVERTISE, WHETHER IT IS A

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PAMPHLET OR A WEB VETERAN IT, IT'S SAID IN THE PROPOSITION LANGUAGE. WHERE DOES IT GET SO LONG OR CONFUSING? DO WE WANT TO LIMIT THE ACTUAL BALLOT LANGUAGE? TO WHAT IS THE FIRST SCENARIO. WE WANT TO INCLUDE EVERYTHING IN THE BALLOT LANGUAGE? IT WILL BE LONG IN GENERAL FOR THIS ELECTION IS ASHLEY FROM ERIC COUNTY WITH ALL THE DIFFERENT PROPOSITIONS GOING ON. I DON'T KNOW WHETHER THAT IT'S GETTING CONFUSING FOR A VOTER. GETS SORT OF LOST IN THE DETAILS. BUT FOR THE PROPOSITION, BUT WE DEFINITELY WANT TO BE AS DETAILED AS

POSSIBLE. >> I THINK THE MORE INFORMATION, THE BETTER. I DO LIKE THE SCENARIO WHERE WE LIST OUT ALL THE PROJECT, NOT JUST THOSE GOING TO CONSTRUCTION.

THE ONLY QUESTION I HAVE , WE WOULD HAVE TO PROPOSITION IT OURSELVES AND THERE MIGHT BE CONFUSION WHEN WE LOOK AT THE OVERALL PROJECT. THE AVERAGE CONSTITUENT WILL LOOK AND SAY WHAT'S IN THAT AREA? THEY'RE NOT GOING TO LOOK AND SAY THIS IS PRECINCT 1. WHERE IS IT AT? WHENEVER WE HAVE THOSE LIST IS, CAN WE DO GENERALIZED AREAS? OR REGIONAL PROJECTS, SAN MARCUS, BECAUSE IF I GO TO THE BALLOT BOX , I KNOW IT IS THERE BUT THE AVERAGE VOTER DOES NOT. IN GENERAL THEY WILL WALK INTO THE BOX AND SAY WHAT'S HAPPENING IN MY AREA? I KNOW THESE ARE CATEGORIZED BY PRECINCT, BUT IS THERE A WAY, CAN WE -- RESORT SPENT JUST BY THE GENERAL LOCATION OF THE PROJECT AND THE LIST OR DOES IT HAVE TO BE LIST BY PRECINCT?

>> IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE LISTED BY PRECINCT. THAT'S JUST ONE METHOD. LUCKY. COUNTYWIDE. AND THE APPRECIATION OF EVERY COMMISSIONERS CONTRIBUTION.

STARTING FROM LAST TO FIRST, COMMISSIONER SMITH'S PERSPECTIVE OF GOING BY MUNICIPALITY FOOTPRINT MAKES MOST SENSE. WE ARE GEEKS IN THIS LANE, RIGHT? WE KNOW MORE THAN MOST. WE WANT TO MAKE IT EASILY CONSUMABLE BY THE PERSON YOU WILL CROSS AT HEB. WHAT'S GOING ON? IS 100% RIGHT MICHELLE TALKING ABOUT THE ARTICULATION OF DETAIL IN THE CONTRACT WITH THE VOTERS IS SIMPLY RIGHT. GOT TO BE A WAY TO MAKE IT MORE SUSTAINED. COMMISSIONER COHEN WITH ITEM NUMBER THREE, THAT'S WHAT I WAS GOING TO SAY. I LIKE NUMBER THREE, AS WELL. BECAUSE WHAT COMMISSIONER INGALSBE WAS SAYING WAS YES, WE NEED THE DETAILS, BUT DOING IT THAT MUCH DETAIL? WE ARE ALL SAYING THE SAME THING. WE SURE WHICH PROJECTS WE AGREE ON AND WHICH ONES WE DON'T. IF THE COMMISSIONER DOESN'T AGREE, WE CAN GO BUT IS OF HOLIDAY FOOT PRINT. MAY BE THE LARGER MUNICIPALITIES IN WESTERN HAYS COUNTY PROJECTS. CATEGORIZING ALL OF THEM TOGETHER. I LIKE

THAT IDEA. >> ANY OF THESE PROJECTS LOCATED WITHIN THE CORPORATE LIMITS OF THE CITY.

UNINCORPORATED AREAS, YOU COULD DO IT BY, LIKE WE SAID, NORTHWEST REGION OR HOWEVER IT IS BEST TO DESCRIBE.

>> I THINK THAT MIGHT BE MOST USEFUL. THE SOONER WE ARTICULATE THIS IN BUTTON IT DOWN ON A NUMBER OF PROJECT, THE SOONER I KNOW THAT WE ARE NOT ALLOWED TO AS I WAS CHAIR OF THE BLUE RIBBON BOND COMMITTEE FOR THE SAN MARCO SCHOOL DISTRICT. I'VE BEEN INVOLVED IN SUPPORTING BONDS.

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OUR JOB IS TO INFORM AND NOT REMOTE. OUR JOB IS TO BE HERE WHEN WE HAVE THOSE AIDS TO HELP ARTICULATE YOUR COURT PROJECTS AND WHERE? I REALLY DO FEEL IT COULD BE MOST INFORMATIVE WHEN WE TALK ABOUT AREAS. OKAY, I CAN DO THAT WORK

>> WHAT IS YOUR OPINION ON THE BOND BALLOT LANGUAGE VERSUS THE PROPOSITION LANGUAGE? DO YOU HAVE AN IDEA OF WHAT IS TOO MUCH TO TRY TO PUT IN A BALLOT LANGUAGE. IS THAT POSSIBLE?

>> JUST OUT OF CURIOSITY, DOES YOUR ELECTIONS ADMINISTRATOR

HAVE A MINIMUM? >> SHE IS BEHIND US.

>> IF YOU DO NOT MIND, SHE IS ASKING THE QUESTION. DO YOU MIND APPROACHING THE PODIUM, STATING YOUR NAME TO ANSWER A

QUESTION? >> JENNIFER, ELECTION ADMINISTRATOR. I DO NOT HAVE AN EXACT MINIMUM. I WOULD SAY TO COMMISSIONER SHELLS POINT THIS IS A VERY LONG BALLOT. AND INDEPENDENCE ON THIS BALLOT. IT'S GOING TO BE VERY WORDY. I THINK THE LESS YOU SAY ON THE BALLOT LANGUAGE, THE BETTER

PEOPLE WILL UNDERSTAND. >> MORE SENTENCES. YOU COULD DO

IT. THANK YOU, JENNIFER. >> YOU'RE WELCOME. I

APPRECIATE YOUR INPUT. >> YOU SEE THE CHALLENGE AT

HAND. >> I DO.

>> OKAY. ANYTHING ELSE, COMMISSIONERS?

>> IS THAT ENOUGH DIRECTION?

>> JUST TO CLARIFY, IT WOULD HAVE PROJECT CONSTRUCTION.

>> THEN THE BALLOT THAT IS CONCISE ENOUGH.

>> THANK YOU FOR THAT, COMMISSIONER SMITH. WE NEED TO INFORM THE VOTERS THAT WE ARE THE FAST THIS GROWING REGION IN THE NATION. IF WE DON'T GIVE UP EMMA WE WILL CAUSE TROUBLE.

WE HATE THE TRAFFIC BECAUSE IT'S NOT FLOWING. IF WE SHOW THE COMMUNITY ALL OF THE THINGS THAT THIS ENTAILS, I THINK THERE WILL BE A BETTER POTENTIAL BUY-IN.

>> THIS IS MORE OF A TECHNICAL QUESTION. ALL ABOUT BRINGING US UNDER BUDGET ON TIME. ON ANY OF THE BACKGROUND AND EDUCATIONAL MATERIALS, DOES IT AND IF IT IS THAT ONE OF THE REASONS I WANTED TO ENSURE ALL THE PROJECT DURING THEIR IS BECAUSE SAY WE ARE PLANNING SOMETHING ON A PROJECT.

>> REVIEW THE LETTERS FOR THE VIEWERS?

>> IF WE ARE DOING THE INITIAL ENGINEERING SITE ON A PROJECT AND WE THAT AND THAT IS WHAT WAS INCLUDED IN THE BOND AND WE FINISHED THAT IN A CERTAIN TIME PERIOD AND BECOMING 15% BELOW BUDGET ON THAT, BY LISTING THEM IN THERE AND NOT HAVING JUST THE GENERAL THINGS, DOES IT GIVE US MORE FLEXIBILITY TO TRY TO RECOUP THOSE FUNDS TO USE ANOTHER PROJECT TO SAVE MONEY

IN THE OVERALL BOND? >> SURE.

>> I'M NOT ASKING IF THE RIGHT WAY, PROBABLY. WE WANT THE FLEXIBILITY TO SAY OKAY, WE'VE DONE WELL ON THIS PROJECT. WE RECOUP THAT AND PUT THAT WHERE, PERHAPS THE ACQUISITION IS MUCH MORE EXPENSIVE? IF THERE ARE FUNDS LEFT OVER, THEY CAN BE USED FOR ANY PROJECT, ANY TYPE OF ROAD PROJECT. WE HAVE RUN INTO THIS IN THE PAST, BY DESIGNATING THEM INDIVIDUALLY, CAN WE RECOUP THOSE BEFORE THE END, OR DO YOU HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL ALL THE PROJECT ARE DONE AT THE END OF THE BOND AND SEE

WHERE WE ARE AT? >> I DO. I REMEMBER TALKING TO MARK ABOUT THIS. IF THERE CAN BE FUN SET-ASIDE TO COMPLETE THIS PROJECT AND YOU CAN CLEARLY SHOW THAT IT IS SURPLUS, WE CAN USE THEM FOR EXTRA PROJECT. FUNDING SET ASIDE AND EARMARK FOR THE PROJECT THAT YOU SAY YOU ARE

NOT GOING TO DO. >> I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT ANSWERED MY WESTERN. SAY I HAVE PROJECT A PEER GUY COME SAVE $50,000 OFF THE PROJECT. CAN I TAKE THAT AND PUT IT INTO PROJECT HE OR DO I HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL THE REMAINDER OF THE BOND IS EVENTUALLY AND PRESENT LEFT OR WHATEVER AND USE IT THEN?

>> IS PROJECT BE A LISTED PROJECT?

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>> YES, YOU CAN PUT IT IN THE NEXT PROJECT.

>> COMMISSIONER SMITH IS ASKING THESE QUESTIONS BECAUSE FOLKS MAY NOT REALIZE THIS BUT THE 2016 ROAD BOND, WE ARE STILL USING MONEY FROM IT. THIS ASKED WILL GO BEYOND THIS CURRENT COURT, 100%. WE ARE FRAMING THE FUTURE GOVERNMENT TO DO WITH THE VOTERS ARE ASKING FOR, AND THERE IS NO OTHER WAY TO SAY IT, IN A POLITE WAY, HOLDING THEIR FEET TO THE FIRE OF THE CONTRACT THAT WAS VOTED ON. THE 2002 BOND MONEY TO SPEND ON THE PROJECT. THAT'S THE REASON I WANT THE FLEXIBILITY TO CLOSE

OUT THIS PROJECT. >> SO GREAT ALL. ANY OTHER

QUESTIONS? >> ONE CLARIFICATION. IT MIGHT BE KNOWN . FOR PEOPLE WHO SHARE SOME OF THIS IN PRECINCT 1, IT'S NOT GOING TO BE JUST THE SAN MARCO'S AREA. IT WILL BE SEEING MARCUS AND KYLE AREA. SOME OF THESE GO INTO DIFFERENT JURISDICTIONS. WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE SAN MARCO'S AREA.

WHAT WE NEED CLARIFICATION ON.

>> WE WILL DEFINITELY WORK WITH YOUR CONSULTANT TO HAVE THEM LABEL WHERE THESE PROJECTS ARE. CONSISTENT WITH TWO AREAS, WHETHER THAT TO CITIES OR AN UNINCORPORATED AREA. WE WILL TRY TO MAKE SURE WE GET THAT DELINEATED. WE CAN DO THE PROPOSITION LANGUAGE IN TWO WAYS. ONE WHERE IT KIND OF AUTOS TOGETHER IN PARAGRAPH FORM OR WE CAN PUT IT IN BULLETS IF YOU WANT TO SEE BOTH.

>>, FAN OF THE BULLETS. ENOUGH THE PERSON AT HEB. I KEEP GOING THERE BECAUSE WE GO THERE. THEY WILL SEE THE BULLET IN THEIR MINDS QUICKER THAN A PARAGRAPH HERE

>> THE IDEA IS GREAT. WHATEVER YOU THINK IS BEST TO SUPPORT YOUR ARTICULATION. THERE WILL DO EXACTLY WHAT YOU WANT. SAN MARCO'S AREA, KYLE AREA OR DEPENDING ON WHERE THEY ARE

VOTING, MIGHT BE YOUR MARKER. >> WE WILL FIGURE IT OUT.

SCHEDULED TO CALL THE ELECTION LAST TUESDAY. THE LAST DAY IS THE 19TH. JUST MAKING SURE WE CAN MEET NEXT TUESDAY.

>> WE ARE MEETING EVERY TUESDAY.

>> BUDGET SEASON. >> RIGHT, RIGHT HERE WE WILL ALSO NEED TO KNOW IF THERE IS ANY PROJECT ON THAT PRESENTATION THAT ARE NOT MOVING FORWARD. ALL OF THAT PRESENTATION. AS LONG AS EVERYBODY HAS GIVEN THE FINAL IDEAS, UPDATES, DEBTOR APPEARED COREY, DO YOU MIND?

>> THANK YOU FOR THAT. >> MY NAME IS COREY. I WORK FOR

-- >> ANCER, ONE OF THOSE LETTERS?

>> GENERAL ENGINEERING AND CONSULTING. THE ONLY UPDATES THAT WE HAVE FROM THE PRESENTATION THAT WE DELIVERED ON THE SECOND, THERE ARE TWO UPDATES. THE FIRST ONE IS REGARDING THE PHASE TWO PROJECT. ON JULY 2ND, WE HAD NOTED THAT WE WERE GOING TO BE DOING AN INTERIM ACTION WHICH WOULD MEAN WE WOULD BE BUILDING TWO LANES. SINCE JULY 2ND, WE'VE DECIDED TO ADVANCE TO A FULLY BUILT SECTION WHICH MEANS THE FORELAND ADDING THE THIRD AND FOURTH LANE AS WELL AS THE GRASS MEDIAN DUE TO THE PLAN TO EXPAND THEIR CAMPUS THERE ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE HILL. MAKE WAY FOR THAT AND GET READY FOR THAT COMPLEX. MOVING FORWARD WITH THE PROPOSED BOND

PACKAGE. >> I CAN REMEMBER WHEN WE HAD TO DO THE IMPROVEMENT IN FRONT OF THAT. WE RECEIVED NO NOTIFICATION, WHAT SO EVER UNTIL WE GOT NOTIFICATION THAT THE SCHOOL IS GOING TO BE THERE NEXT YEAR AND THEY ARE ACTUALLY ANTICIPATING BUILDING AT THAT CAMPUS, 2 TO 3 YEARS NOW.

THEY'RE TRYING TO GET IN FRONT OF IT ADDITIONAL HIGH SCHOOL THERE. IT'S THEM ACTUALLY TRYING TO COORDINATE WITH US

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FOR ONCE. >> I WILL ASK YOU PLEASE PASS ON THIS MESSAGE. I HAVE TOLD TUCKER, OUR REPRESENTATIVE FOR THE REGION, AND YOU SAID GRASS MEDIAN, I HEAR MAINTENANCE, I HEAR TROUBLE I HEAR DOGS, I HEAR IT'S NOT IMPERVIOUS. THE DESIGN OF GRANITE, ROCKS. SOMETHING THAT DOES NOT REQUIRE CONSTANT TAX DOLLARS TO MAINTAIN THE UP KEEP. YOU WILL HAVE ENOUGH KEEP AN EXPENSE, POTENTIALLY A WATER BILL THAT NOBODY WANTS, NOBODY WANTS. PLEASE PASS THAT ALONG.

>> THE SECOND OF DATE ON THE PROJECT, DECIDING TO REDUCE AND REMOVE THE RIGHT-OF-WAY ACQUISITION ACTIVITIES DUE TO THE GENERAL NATURE OF THE ALIGNMENT AND THE SURROUNDED AREA APPEARED THOSE TO UPDATE REDUCE THE OVERALL BOND PACKAGE SIZE TO APPROXIMATELY $10 MILLION. WHAT WE HAD PROPOSED AT THE BEGINNING OF THE MONTH WAS A $450 MILLION PACKAGE. THE LATEST THAT WE'VE PUT TOGETHER IS APPROXIMATELY 400 $40 MILLION, SO THAT WILL SAVE SOME MONEY FOR EVERYBODY ON THAT ONE. THOSE ARE THE ONLY UPDATES THAT WE HAVE, MEANING THAT THERE ARE NO ADDITIONAL PROJECT THAT WE PLANNED TO ADD.

>> THE LIST THAT YOU HAVE BEEN GIVEN IS THE LIST WE PLAN TO GO

FORWARD WITH. >> TO CLARIFY, IT HAS NOT BEEN REMOVED. COURT DESIGNATED TO AUTHORIZE THE STUDY LAST YEAR.

WE ARE GOING TO MOVE THROUGH DOING THOSE IN THE REGULAR BUDGET OVER THE NEXT COUPLE OF YEARS. THE RIGHT-OF-WAY ACQUISITION FOR THE FINALIZED PROJECT THROUGH THE PHYSICIAN POT AND OUT OF BONDED SELF. REMOVING THE PROJECT AS A PRIORITY. WE ARE DOING SOME STUFF BEFORE WHERE THE BOND WOULD BE READY. IT'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO SAVE A LITTLE BIT OF MONEY. I WANTED TO MAKE SURE YOU UNDERSTOOD THAT.

>> IT STAYS IN THE PROPOSED BOND. AND WE ARE ADVANCING

DESIGN. >> I WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU'RE FULLY SUPPORTED, 100%. NOTHING IS WELL ENOUGH OF YOUR LIST, AM I RIGHT? THAT'S CORRECT. THE NEED IS THERE.

>> ANYTHING ELSE, COMMISSIONER SHELL ?

>> ONE CLARIFICATION AS YOU ARE ALL DRAFTING THIS AND LOOKING AT THE LANGUAGE AS FAR AS WHAT IS OUTLINED FOR EACH PROJECT, I DO WANT TO GO OVER , AT SOME POINT, AND I CAN DO THAT WITH OUR CONSULTANT, LOOKING AT THE PROJECT TO MAKE SURE IF THE AVERAGE VOTER WALKS IN THEIR, SAYING OKAY, THIS IS SPECIFICALLY FOR SAFETY AND IMPROVEMENT. I WOULD ENCOURAGE EACH OF US TO SAY THIS IS WHAT THE BULLET POINT IS GOING TO SAY. JUST TO MAKE SURE. I KNOW YOU NEED THAT LIKE YESTERDAY. I WANT THE VOTER TO WASH OUT -- NOT PUTTING MONEY TOWARDS 1826.

IT'S NOT IN THERE, BUT I'M JUST SAYING WHAT DOES IT MEAN? 1826 IMPROVEMENT. SOMETHING DIRECT AND I CAN HELP YOU WITH EACH ONE OF THOSE. MAYBE ONE OR TWO ADJUSTMENTS AND THAT'S IT.

THE VOTERS WON'T SEE THAT EXCEPT HANGING AT THE POLLS. IT IS THE BALLOT LANGUAGE THAT THE VOTER WILL SEE.

>> TURNED TO KEEP THAT SHORTER. WAS GOING TO PUT PROJECT IN THEIR. CANNOT THINK THAT WAS THE DIRECTION EARLIER.

>> TALKING ABOUT PROPOSITION LANGUAGE.

>> JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE. >> THE INFORMATION WILL BE SHARED AND WE WILL HAVE THAT TO THE VOTERS.

>> OKAY, SEE YOU NEXT WEEK?

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>>

>> I TELL YOU WHAT, YOU'RE NOT A REGULAR IN HERE. I APPRECIATE USED. NAME AND TITLE FOR THE VIEWING PUBLIC AND YOU WILL

HAVE THREE MINUTES. >> BEFORE YOU LEAVE, COULD YOU

FILL OUT A FORM? >> I AM A RESIDENT OF SUN FIELD. THE PURPOSE OF MY COMMENTS TODAY, CAN YOU PASS THOSE OUT? IN ONE HAND INTO YOU, THE DOCUMENTS INCLUDE THAT 2013 TRANSPORTATION PLAN, 2013 AMENDED TRANSPORTATION PLAN FOR 2021 AMENDED TRANSPORTATION PLAN. THE RISK HIGHLIGHTED WITH TURNERSVILLE ROAD. IT ALSO HAS A DOCUMENT THAT SHOWS THE COMMUNITY AREA. HAYS COUNTY NOW HAS NEW CONSTRUCTION SINCE THE CITY HAD BEEN ELIMINATED. BUILDING OUT OVER THE NEXT COUPLE OF YEARS, WE WILL HAVE 7500 RESIDENTS IN THAT AREA. TO 20,000 THOSE. THEN AFTER THAT IS THE HAYS COUNTY 2013 TRANSPORTATION PLAN . INCLUDING THE 2006 TRANSPORTATION PLAN AND B HAYS COUNTY 2013 TRANSPORTATION PLAN WITH B HAYS COUNTY OUTLOOK FROM THE 2013 PLAN. BEMIS AND FIELD ROADWAY MAINTENANCE AGREEMENT, BUT THE AGREEMENT IS ACTUALLY WITH HAYS COUNTY . THE PURPOSE FOR ALL OF THAT IS THAT SEVERAL DECADES, IT HAS BEEN IDENTIFIED CLEARLY. TURNERSVILLE ROAD AND MAIN STREET ARE MAJOR THOROUGHFARES. WASN'T ABLE TO FIND ALL OF THE DETAIL THAT YOU WERE REFERRING TO. I DID HAVE THE DRAFT COPY BUT THE DRAFT OF THE BOND DID SAY THAT INCLUSION OF ROAD TRANSPORTATION PROJECTS TO BE DISCUSSED. THIS IS JUST WANTING TO GET IN FRONT OF YOU, COMMISSIONERS. THIS IS A TERRIBLE AREA, TERRIBLE. ON TURNERSVILLE ROAD, DRIVING MAINSTREET FOR WHAT'S THERE. IT'S A BEFORE AND THAT THE ROADWAY STRUCTURE IS WHAT IS THERE AND THAT IS WHAT HAS BEEN PLANNED OUT BETWEEN THE CITY AND HAYS COUNTY TO SERVE THESE

20,000 VEHICLES. >> BEAUTIFULLY SAID. MOST GRATEFUL FOR THE LEVEL OF PREPARATION. NORTHERN PART OF THE COUNTY. IT WILL ABSOLUTELY GO OVER THIS MATERIAL AND MAKE SURE PART OF THE CONVERSATION. IF YOU WANT TO SEE THE VOLTE DELL -- FULL DETAIL OF ALL PROJECT, IT'S JULY 2ND.

>> IT IS ON THE WEBSITE RIGHT NOW.

>> BUT ALSO THE ENTIRE PRESENTATION COREY GAVE US IS RECORDED IF YOU GO TO THE COUNTY'S WEBSITE. IT'S VERY EASY TO NAVIGATE. USE BE ABLE TO GO TO THE COURT. WAS IT JULY

2ND THAT WE MET? >> YOU CAN CLICK HIS PRESENTATION AND AGENDA ITEM AND IT WILL POPULATE AND GIVE YOU EVERY SINGLE ITEM. IN DETAIL, WHAT WAS THERE, AND IT SINCE YOU ARE WRITING, HERE IS MY PHONE NUMBER. I WANT TO -- WHAT IS MY PHONE NUMBER? 393-2205 . ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS OR CLARIFICATION, I WILL ABSOLUTELY BE AVAILABLE.

THE COMMISSIONERS ARE THE MASTERS OF THEIR FOOTPRINT BUT I WILL HAPPILY BE AN OVERLAY TO SUPPORT WHATEVER YOU NEED.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ONE QUICK CAVEAT. THE AGREEMENT WITH THE UTILITY DISTRICT, ACTUALLY SEVERAL DIFFERENT ONES. BOTH OF THEM SUN FIELD. WHICH MAINSTREET IN HAYS COUNTY, ALTHOUGH IT ALSO GOES INTO TRAVIS COUNTY. IT IS

OBVIOUSLY A COMPLEX MASS. >> AND AUSTIN.

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>> IT'S TRUE. >> AND THE ISSUE WITH MAINSTREET, GETTING IT ALL DONE. ULTIMATELY, THE DOCUMENT FOR THE LAST FOUR PAGES. THEY'VE TAKEN RESPONSIBILITY FOR MAINTENANCE OF MEN'S STREET IN HAYS COUNTY , BEYOND FIRE RECKER ROAD. FROM FRONTAGE ROAD TO FIRE RECKER. SUN FIELD TAXPAYERS, THE DISTRICT RESIDENTS HAVE PAID FOR AND WILL CONTINUE WHETHER IT IS IN HAYS COUNTY OR IN TRAVIS COUNTY. THE INSTALLATION OF MAINSTREET. RIGHT NOW, THERE IS A CURRENT ISSUE FROM FRONTAGE ROAD TO FIRECRACKER ROAD. IT CONTRIBUTED $3 MILLION THIS PAST MONTH. CONTRIBUTING $3 MILLION FOR THEIR EXECUTION OF THAT SEGMENT OF THE ACCESS ROAD OF I 35 TO FIRECRACKER. THE CITY IS LOOKING AT HOW TO FUND THAT PROJECT OVERALL. IT'S JUST SHY OF A $10 MILLION PROJECT. I WOULD ASK THE COUNTY TO CONSIDER THAT THE ROADWAY IS MEN'S TREAT ON ALL OF THE LIST AS WE TALKED ABOUT. AND ASK THE COUNTY TO LOOK AT WHAT RESPONSIBILITY THEY HAVE TO LOOK AT FINANCING, GETTING THAT SEGMENT OF ROAD FROM THE ACCESS ROAD TO FIRECRACKER. JUST FOR CLARIFICATION IT'S WITHIN CITY

LIMITS. >> I WANT TO MAKE SURE WHAT HE IS SAYING IS PROPERLY RECORDED.

>> SOME OLD LATELY, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE HIM. WE HAVE AN ITEM ON THE AGENDA TODAY, AS WELL, AROUND THE TRAFFIC LIGHT INSTALLATION THAT WILL BE GOING ON AS IT IS BEING SHARED BETWEEN THE CITY AND HAYS COUNTY. MY UNDERSTANDING IT IS 75% HAYS COUNTY . WILL THEY HAS TO DO WITH THE INTERSECTION. I WOULD JUST ASK -- ULTIMATELY, THE RESIDENTS WANT THAT ROADWAY TAKING CARE OF AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. THE CITY IS SAYING THEY DON'T HAVE THE FUNDS COMPILED YET TO BE ABLE TO EXIT THAT. EVEN THOUGH THAT ROADWAY IS NOT IN THE MUD, IT'S CONTRIBUTED $3 MILLION. IF THE CITY WERE TO CONTRIBUTE $3 MILLION AND IF HAYS COUNTY WERE TO CONTRIBUTE $3 MILLION, SUDDENLY THERE IS NONE MILLION DOLLARS TO GET THE ROADWAY STARTED . THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME TODAY.

>> WE HAVE JUST A FEW MINUTES. AT 10:00, I COMMITTED TO OPENING AN EXECUTIVE SESSION ITEM. SO LET'S LOOK AT J2,

PLEASE. >> THINK YOU'LL YOUR TIME.

[J.2. Discussion and possible action to approve the appointment of Judges, Alternate Judges, Early Voting Ballot Board members and Polling Locations for the November 5, 2024, General Election. BECERRA/DOINOFF]

>> DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO APPROVE THE APPOINTMENT OF JUDGES, ALTERNATE JUDGES, EARLY VOTING BALLOTS AND POLLING LOCATIONS FOR THE 2024 GENERAL ELECTION.

>> SECOND. >> GOOD MORNING. I HAVE GIVEN YOU TWO DOCUMENTS. THE FIRST ONE IS THE APPOINTMENT OF JUDGES AND EARLY VOTING BALLOT BOARD. WE HAD THIS ON LAST WEEK TO MAKE SOME REVISIONS. THIS IS THE FINALIST FROM THE PARTY CHAIRS FOR AN EARLY BALLOT BOARD AND JUDGES. THE SECOND PART OF THIS IS THE SECOND DOCUMENT THAT ARE PROVIDED WITH ELECTION DAY POLLING LOCATIONS . YOU GUYS DID EARLY VOTING LAST WEEK. THIS IS JUST FOR ELECTION DAY. THE ONLY THING TO POINT OUT ABOUT POLLING LOCATIONS IS THAT WE'VE ADDED CARPENTER AND WE HAVE ADDED PLUM CREEK AMENITIES ENTER. THE REASON WE HAVE ADDED THOSE TWO LOCATIONS IS DUE TO SENATE BILL 924, WHICH LEGISLATED THAT WE CANNOT CONSOLIDATE SMALLER PRECINCT FOR DETERMINING THE NUMBER OF VOTES CENTERS THAT WE HAVE. WE HAVE TO HAVE STRAIGHT UP 50%. WE NEED TO ADD THOSE LOCATIONS TO MEET THAT REQUIREMENT. AND WE ARE VERY BALANCED. WE HAVE 11 IN PRECINCT 1. 10 IN PRECINCT 2, THREE IN PRECINCT 11 AND 11, 11 IN PRECINCT 3 AND FOUR. ANY

[00:55:07]

QUESTIONS? >> IT WILL BE APPROVED, RIGHT?

GOOD, CALL THE ROLE. >> ON THE VERY LAST REPUBLICAN

LIST, 35 NAMES. >> I'M SORRY?

>> BETWEEN PAM AND HER LAST NAME.

>> NO, OKAY. IT IS PAM EAKIN. >> THANK YOU, PLEASE CALL THE

ROLE. >>

>> WE WILL KNOCK THESE OUT FOR A QUICK. STARTING WITH 26.

[G.6. Approve and confirm the appointment of Charles "Chick" Williams as a regular full-time Deputy Constable in theHays County Constable, Precinct 4 Office. SMITH/HOOD]

APPROVE AND CONFIRM THE APPOINTMENT OF CHARLES WILLIAMS IS A REGULAR FULL-TIME DEPUTY CONST DOUBLE.

>> SO MOVED. >> IF YOU WILL TAKE THE PODIUM

AND THEN WE WILL VOTE AFTER. >> GOOD MORNING, COMMISSIONERS.

GOOD MORNING, JUDGE. IT IS 61011 A. MY SUBMISSION TO THE COMMISSION'S COURT. FROM PRECINCT 4, CHARLES WILLIAMS RECEIVED HIS BACHELOR IN SCIENCE DEGREE. FROM 1982, SHORTLY AFTERWARD HIRED BY THE DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT. IN THE PATROL DIVISION, PROMOTED TO SENIOR CORPORAL. FROM 1988 2000, HE SERVED AS A FIELD TRAINING OFFICER FOR THE DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT. IN 1998, WILLIAMS WAS ASSIGNED TO THE TRAFFIC ENFORCEMENT DIVISION AT DALLAS PD. HE RETIRED IN MAY 2014 AFTER 32 YEARS OF SERVICE. IN 2015, CHARLES WILLIAMS WAS HIRED BY THE HAYS COUNTY CONSTABLE PRECINCT OR OFFICE.

SOME OF YOU MAY RECOGNIZE HIM. HE RETIRED IN DECEMBER 2022, WHICH GOES TO SHOW THAT RETIREMENT IS NOT FOR EVERYONE HERE SO WE ARE BRINGING HIM BACK HERE HE HAS A WIRED OVER 4900 15 HOURS OF TRAINING WITH THE TEXAS COMMISSION OF LAW ENFORCEMENT AND HOLDS THE FOLLOWING CERTIFICATIONS. IS A BASIC PEACE OFFICER, ADVANCED, INTERMEDIATE AND MASTER PEACE OFFICER. MY PLEASURE TO SUBMIT TO YOU FOR APPROVAL CHARLES

WILLIAMS OR DEPUTY CONSTABLE. >> MAGNIFICENT GIFT FOR US.

WELCOME BACK. WOULD YOU SAY A FEW WORDS FOR THE VIEWING

PUBLIC PLEASE? >> IF YOU ALL EXCEPT ME BACK, I WOULD LOVE TO SERVE THE COUNTY ONCE AGAIN.

>> YOU BRING YOUR OWN BOOTS? >> GOOD JOB. I THINK WE CAN MAKE SOME ROOM FOR SOME BOOTS. PLEASE CALL THE ROLE. SPIN

ROLL BEING CALLED ] >> OFFICIALLY, WELCOME TO THE FAMILY, ONE MORE TIME. THANK YOU, SIR. WE HAD ANOTHER ONE FOR JUNE. THERE IS ANOTHER ONE. YOU WANT TO DO THAT ONE?

[G.8. Authorize payment to Longhorn Harley-Davidson for repairs and equipment installation to two (2) Harley-Davidson motorcycles totaling $2,574.80 for the Hays County Constable, Pct. 4 Office, in which a purchase order was not obtained as required per the Hays County Purchasing Policy and amend the budget accordingly. SMITH/HOOD]

DOESN'T MATTER. >> AUTHORIZED PAYMENT TO LONGHORN HARLEY-DAVIDSON. TOTALING $2574 FOR THE TESTABLE PRECINCT OFFICE, FOR WHICH A PURCHASE ORDER WAS NOT OBTAINED AND AMENDING THE BUDGET ACCORDINGLY.

>> WHILE YOU'RE HERE IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS , WE CAN

HAVE THEM ANSWERED. >> SELF-EXPLANATORY BUT I JUST

WANTED TO MAKE SURE. >> COMMISSIONER SMITH?

>>

[G.10. Authorize the Constable Pct. 3 Office to purchase one new Harley Davidson Motorcycle with law enforcementequipment upfit and amend the budget accordingly. SHELL/MONTAGUE]

PRECINCT OFFICE TO PURCHASE ONE NEW HARLEY-DAVIDSON MOTORCYCLE WITH LAW ENFORCEMENT EQUIPMENT UP AND AMEND THE BUDGET

ACCORDINGLY. >> WE'VE HAD THIS WHERE WE LEAVE SOMETHING OUT ON A THAT ENDS HERE, CAN WE WORD IT SO YOU WILL HAVE EVERYTHING YOU NEED? IS IT WORDED THAT WAY

ALREADY? >> EXCUSE ME, THIS IS ACTUALLY AN ADDITIONAL MOTOR. THE PRECINCT 3 OFFICE DOES NOT CURRENTLY HAVE A MOTOR IN THEIR LEAD. THEY DO HAVE TWO OFFICERS GOING THROUGH THE TRAINING RIGHT NOW. BECAUSE OF THAT TERRAIN THAT THEY ARE IN, THEY FEEL IT WOULD BE BENEFICIAL TO

[01:00:01]

ADD THIS TO THEIR FLEET. >> I AGREE 100%. I COULD NOT SAY ENOUGH GOOD THINGS, BUT I JUST WANT TO BE SURE THAT I'VE SEEN IT IN THE PAST WHERE WE'VE ACCIDENTALLY LEFT SOMETHING OUT. FOR EXAMPLE, BOOTS OR ANOTHER OUTFITTING COMPONENT. I WANTED TO MAKE SURE IT WAS WORDED IN A WAY WHERE YOU HAVE THE FLEXIBILITY TO FULLY SUPPORT THE MOVE.

>> THIS IS FOR THE ACTUAL MOTORCYCLE AND ALL OF THE EQUIPMENT. THE EQUIPMENT LIKE A HELMET, THE PVP COMMENT KIT -- HELMET KIT. THOSE WERE ACCEPTED ABOUT SIX WEEKS AGO. THERE IS A SMALL PIECE THAT WILL NEED TO BE ADDED TO THAT. GOT THE UPDATED QUOTE. WILL BE BRINGING WENT TO COURT NEXT WEEK FOR THE ADDITIONAL $200 REQUIRED. SO AS FAR AS THE BOOT, THAT WOULD BE BUDGETED IN THE FY '25 BUDGET IN THE UNIFORM ITEM.

>> PLEASE CALL THE ROLE. >>

>> YES. THANK YOU, CONSTABLE, GRADE MOVE YOUR KEEP UP THE

[J.3. Discussion and possible action to authorize the execution of a Memorandum of Understanding (MOU) between Hays County and Patriots Hall regarding space usage for a Veteran Service Officer to meet with eligible veterans and their families to provide claims and benefits assistance. SMITH/PRATHER]

GREAT WORK. >> DISCUSSION TO AUTHORIZE POTENTIAL EXECUTION BETWEEN HAYS COUNTY AND PATRIOTS OFFER A VETERAN SERVICE OFFICER TO MEET WITH ELIGIBLE VETERANS AND THEIR FAMILIES TO PROVIDE NAMES AND BENEFITS ASSISTANCE.

>> GOOD MORNING, JUDGE, COMMISSIONERS. THIS WILL BE ONE OF THE FIRST OF THE SERIES OF MEETINGS WITH VETERAN SERVICE ORGANIZATIONS THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY. WE ARE TRYING TO HAVE A VETERAN SERVICE OFFICER OUT IMMUNITY ASSISTING VETERAN SERVICE ORGANIZATIONS BY HAVING BOOTS ON THE GROUND THERE TO ASSIST ORGANIZATIONS THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY. PATRIOTS HALL WILL BE HAVING -- THEY PLAN TO OPEN THEIR HOME NEXT MONTH, SO WE ARE TRYING TO FORMALIZE THOSE RELATIONSHIPS.

>> IN YOUR OPENING EFFORTS, PLEASE INVITE ME. I WOULD LOVE TO GO SUPPORT YOU. I THINK IT IS A WONDERFUL IDEA AND COMMISSIONER, WITH A NAME LIKE PATRIOTS HALL, IT MAKES SENSE TO HAVE THE VETERANS DIVISION IN THEIR.

>> AND I CAN TELL YOU THE ORGANIZATION, THE COUNTY HAS STEPPED UP ON SEVERAL OCCASIONS FOR THIS ORGANIZATION.

EVERYTHING FROM PAVING THE ROADWAY AND THE RIGHT-OF-WAY, WHICH WE HAVE OWNED FOR 30 YEARS, WHICH HAD NEVER BEEN PAVED, AND ESTABLISHING AN ENTRANCE THERE TO ACTUALLY PURCHASING THE PROPERTY FOR THE FACILITY ITSELF. I CANNOT SAY THANK YOU ENOUGH TO EARLY ON IN THE PROCESS. I SAT DOWN WITH CATHERINE CHANDLER, THE FOUNDER OF PATRIOTS HALL AND THE BOARD.

I CANNOT TELL YOU HOW MANY INDIVIDUAL VETERANS IN NEED OF ASSISTANCE HAVE TOLD ME WHAT AN ISSUE IT IS AND REALLY A BURDEN ON OUR CONSTITUENTS THAT IN ORDER TO ACCESS THOSE SERVICES OVER TIME, JUST THIS YEAR JUST ENDS TO GET TO THE OFFICE HERE IN SAN MARCUS. AS WE'VE LOOKED AT OR AS WE STARTED LOOKING AT FACILITY EXPANSION AND THOSE THINGS FOR DUAL OFFICE FOR PRECINCT 1 AND TWO, AND OFFICE FOR PRECINCT FOUR. IT MADE PERFECT SENSE FOR ME TO SIT DOWN AND TALK TO THEM ABOUT LOOK, WE ARE HELPING WITH THIS FACILITY. IS THERE SPACE FOR A COMPUTER HOOKUP OR A DESK OR FOR US TO HAVE EVEN IF AN OFFICER FROM THE COUNTY COULD NOT BE THERE FULL-TIME, IF WE COULD HAVE SCHEDULED HOURS AND PARTICIPATE AT YOUR LOCATION.

THEY WERE NOT ONLY AMENABLE, BUT VERY SUPPORTIVE OF IT AND VERY, VERY EXCITED AT THE POSSIBILITY OF HAVING SOMEONE THERE, BECAUSE THEY KNOW THAT THEY WILL HAVE THE POPULATION TO HELP SUPPORT THAT DECISION. I AM EXCITED THAT THIS IS THE FIRST. I KNOW JUDE HAS HAD SOME CONVERSATIONS WITH OTHER ORGANIZATIONS IN THE COUNTY. HOPEFULLY THIS WILL BE AN EXAMPLE FOR THEM TO USE AND THIS IS JUST THE FIRST ONE OF THOSE MO USE. I'M NOT SAYING IT'S GOING TO WORK SWIMMINGLY, BUT WE WILL HOPEFULLY FIGURE OUT THE BEST WAY TO DO IT.

>> IS I BELIEVE THEORETICALLY WE COULD HAVE A FULL-TIME EMPLOYEE DOING A ROTATION. TUESDAYS AND THURSDAYS THEY ARE GOING TO BE HERE KIND OF THING. I THINK IT IS A WONDERFUL IDEA AND THANK YOU, JUDY, FOR ALWAYS SUPPORTING OUR VETERANS AS

COMPLETELY AS YOU HAVE. >> THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK.

>>

[L. Executive Sessions]

BREAK INTO L2, IS THAT RIGHT? L2, EXECUTIVE SESSION PURSUANT

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TO SECTIONS 551 071 AND 551.072 OF THE TECH IS GOVERNMENT CODE, DELIBERATION REGARDING PURCHASE, EXCHANGE AND WHEEZE OF LAND LOCATED NEAR PRECINCT 1. DISCUSSION MAY FOLLOW AN

OPEN COURT. >> WE WILL TAKE UP TO I WILL GUESS 15 MINUTES TOPS. STANDBY IF YOU ARE NOT DIRECTLY TIED TO THIS EXECUTIVE SESSION ITEM. PLEASE CLEAR

>> THERE YOU ARE. GIVE VERY MUCH. WE REALLY APPRECIATE YOU STANDING BY. WE ARE BACK IN A TINY LITTLE SHORT 15 BREAK OF

[G. CONSENT ITEMS ]

EXECUTIVE SESSION. NOW WE WILL MOVE TO THE LAST . WE WILL MOVE THROUGH THE CONSENT ITEMS REMAINING.

>> G1 APPROVED COUNTY ENFORCES. G2 APPROVED THE PAYMENT OF JUROR CHECK FOR THE PREPAYMENT OF UNITED HEALTHCARE CLAIMS AND AUTHORIZE ADDITIONAL DISBURSEMENT IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $5000 . APPROVED CONDITIONER MINUTES OF JULY 30TH, 2024. APPROVE THE PAYMENTS OF THE AUGUST 15TH, 2024 PAYROLL DOES DISPENSE IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $4,300,000 EFFECTIVE AUGUST 15TH, 2024. BENEFITS ON THAT HAYS COUNTY WEBSITE ONCE FINALIZED. RELATING TO MOTOR AND ELECTION SOFTWARE AND SERVICES. APPROVE OUT OF STATE TRAVEL FOR DIRECTOR STEPHANIE ROBINSON TO ATTEND THE ADVISORY BOARD MEETING SEPTEMBER 11 AND 12 IN MICHIGAN. AUTHORIZE THE OFFICE TO PURCHASE A RADAR AND PVP, MOTOR HELMET MUNICATION KID AND HAD A WAIVER TO THE PURCHASING POLICY. APPROVED THE LETTER OF CREDIT IN THE TEXAS Ú QUALITY, REGARDING A WASTE MATERIAL AND TRANSPORTATION STATION. DOCUMENTING TO THE

LETTER OF CREDIT. >> COMMISSIONER INGLESBY.

[I.1. Discussion and possible action to approve the selection of WSB, Inc. regarding the design of a traffic signal for the Fire Cracker Drive and Main Street intersection in Buda; and authorize staff and counsel to negotiate a contract. COHEN/BORCHERDING]

COMMISSIONER SHALL. >>

>> DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO APPROVE THE SELECTION OF WS BE INCORPORATED REGARDIG THE DESIGN OF A TRAFFIC SIGNAL FOR THE FIRECRACKER DRIVE AND MAIN STREET INTERSECTION, AUTHORIZING STAFF AND COUNSEL TO NEGOTIATE A CONTRACT.

>> I LOVE THESE AGENDA ITEMS. I REALLY DO APPRECIATE YOU DOING

THIS. A VERY USED THING. >> ANOTHER GENTLEMAN HAD SPOKE ABOUT THIS ITEM BUT THE WHOLE MAIN STREET IS VERY CONGESTED IN THAT AREA. WE ARE DOING WHAT WE CAN AS A COUNTY TO TAKE CARE

OF HER PART OF THE CITY. >>

[Items I.2 - I.4]

>> YOU OPEN TWO, THREE AND FOUR.

>> DISCUSSION TO AUTHORIZE A PUBLIC HEARING ON AUGUST 20TH, 2024 TO ESTABLISH NO DUMPING ZONES AS SHOWN ON THE MAP DIVIDED. DISCUSS ACTIONS A CALL FOR THE MEETING TO DISCUSS A FOUR-WAY STOP MEETING AT THE INTERSECTION OF SONY LANE AND TUBMAN DRIVE DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTIONS A CALL OR A PUBLIC HEARING TO ESTABLISH A FOUR-WAY STOP.

>> SO MOVED. >>

[J.4. Discussion and possible action to execute a Professional Services Agreement between Hays County and Doucet & Associates, Inc. for professional engineering services related to a replat of the Hays County Government Center property and amend the budget accordingly. SHELL/PACHECO]

>> YES. NOW LET'S FINISH MISCELLANEOUS

>> DISCUSS POSSIBLE ACTION TO GET A SERVICE AGREEMENT BETWEEN HAYS COUNTY AND DOUCETTE AND ASSOCIATES FOR ENGINEERING SERVICES RELATING TO A REPORT OF THE PROPERTY AND AMEND THE

BUDGET ACCORDINGLY. >> SO MOVED.

>> I CAN. >> PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

[J.5. Discussion and possible action to amend the Building Maintenance Department budget for cemetery maintenance as needed for the remainder of the fiscal year 2024. SMITH/T.CRUMLEY]

>> ACTION TO DISCUSS CEMETERY MAINTENANCE AS NEEDED FOR THE REMAINDER OF FISCAL YEAR 2024.

>> SO MOVED. >> SECOND.

>> PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. >>

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>> AND WE ARE MOVING AROUND THE WORKSHOP ITEM AT 11:00, OR A

LITTLE EARLY. >> CAN WE KNOCK OUT THE OTHER

EXEC? >> WE COULD. JUST NEED TO DO THAT WE'VE COMMITTED TO WHAT WE WERE GOING TO DO AND WE DID IT. I GUESS THAT'S DO THE OTHER TWO EXECUTIVE SESSIONS AND ACCORDING TO THAT WAS TO THE STANDING INMATE POPULATION.

[M.2. Discussion related to the Hays County inmate population, to include current population counts and costs. BECERRA]

>> DISCUSSION RELATING TO THE HAYS COUNTY INMATE POPULATION TO INCLUDE CURRENT POPULATION CANS AND COST.

>> THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE SENDS MY OFFICE A REPORT OF OUR INMATE POPULATION, AND OUR CURRENT CAPACITY IS 410 INMATES. GEL STANDARDS RECOMMEND HOLDING APPROXIMATELY 10% OF THE CAPACITY OPEN WHICH LOWERS OUR CAPACITY TO 368. THE JAILS DAILY AVERAGE WAS 563. 566 WAS THE PEAK ON JULY 29TH.

THE ESTIMATED COST OF OUTSOURCING INMATES WAS THIS WEEK $171,066. THE AVERAGE NUMBER OF OUTSOURCED MALES IS 264. FEMALES ARE TOO. WE ARE FOLLOWING THESE COUNTIES. WE ARE HOLDING 51 PAPER READY AND MADE WHICH ARE THOSE INMATE THAT I'VE GONE THROUGH THE JUDICIAL SYSTEM, HAVE THEIR DAY

[L. Executive Sessions]

IN COURT AND ANNOUNCED DATE INMATES. L1 AND L3, PLEASE.

>> EXECUTIVE SESSION PURSUANT TO SECTIONS 551.072 AND FIVE 51 .071 OF THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE, CONSULTATION WITH CANCELED REGARDING PURCHASE EXCHANGE AND WHEEZE OR VALUE OF PROPERTY WITH THE PROJECT BEING CONSIDERED BY THE COUNTY.

DISCUSSION MAY FOLLOW IN OPEN COURT. EXECUTIVE SESSION PURSUANT TO FIVE FIVE 1.071 AND 551.08 SEVEN OF THE TECH IS GOVERNMENT CODE CONSULTATION WITH COUNSEL AND DELIBERATION REGARDING ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT NEGOTIATIONS ASSOCIATED WITH OBJECT PEANUT BUTTER. POSSIBLE DISCUSSION AND/OR ACTION MAY

FOLLOW IN OPEN COURT ERRED >> IF YOUR DIRECT TIED TO WE TA

>> YOU DO OR YOU DON'T. THAT'S ALL YOU GET. ALL RIGHT.

[K.1. 11:00 a.m. - Budget Workshop regarding the Fiscal Year 2025 budget. Possible action may follow. BECERRA/DORSETT]

WE ARE BACK FROM EXECUTIVE SESSION AND WE ARE NOW ONTO K-1. BUDGET WORKSHOP REGARDING THE FISCAL YEAR 2025 BUDGET.

POSSIBLE ACTION MAY FOLLOW. >> HERE WE ARE, NOW OPEN IN THIS WORKSHOP AND I WILL TURN THIS PORTION OF OUR PROGRAM

OVER TO MISS DORSET. >> GOOD MORNING, JUDGE, COMMISSIONERS. TODAY WE ARE KICKING OFF OUR FY 2025 BUDGET WORKSHOPS WE HAVE FIVE DEPARTMENTS THAT ARE GOING TO BE PRESENTING TODAY. I LEFT SOME PACKETS THIS MORNING WITH DOCUMENTATION THAT WAS SUPPORTED. THERE IS NO SUPPORTED DOCUMENTS IN THE BUDGET FINDERS. THESE WERE ALL SUBMITTED AFTER IT HAD FINALIZED, SO IT WILL BE IN THE PACKET AND EVERYTHING RECEIVED, INCLUDED IN THE PACKET, LEFT ON YOUR DESK THIS MORNING. AS STANDARD PROCESS, WHAT WE WILL DO IS I WILL DOCUMENT ALL THE TESTS THAT COME IN DURING TODAY'S BUDGET WORKSHOP, AND REPORT ANYTHING ADDITIONAL THAT MIGHT COME UP DURING DISCUSSIONS. ON THE AUGUST 20TH HEARING, I WILL PRESENTTHOSE ITEMS BACK TO YOU FOR A VOTE.

>> BECAUSE WE'VE DONE THIS FOR A FEW YEARS NOW, IN ORDER TO KEEP RESPECT FOR PEOPLE'S TIMES AND THIS WONDERFUL SCHEDULE YOU'VE MADE I SUGGEST WE DO A 10 MINUTE TIMER AND IN THE LAST FIVE MINUTES, WE WILL DISCUSS, THAT WAY WHEN SOMEONE COMES IN AT THEIR ASSIGNED TIME, WE WILL HAVE THE ALLOCATED SPACE FOR THEM. IT'S TRY THAT OUT SO WE CAN KEEP PACE WITH YOUR

SCHEDULE. >> OKAY, SOUNDS GOOD FOR IT

>> FIRST, CCL MENTAL HEALTH COURT. YOU ARE THE CONTESTANT ON THE PRICE IS RIGHT, JUDGE BROWN.

>> GOOD MORNING. DO I NEED TO ANNOUNCE MYSELF?

>> IT IS A WORKSHOP. IT WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA.

>> JUDGE AT COUNTY COURT OF LAW NUMBER THREE. WHEN WE DID OUR INITIAL BUDGET REQUEST, THERE WERE SOME THINGS THAT WE DID NOT KNOW ABOUT THAT TIME THAT HAD HIM DELIGHT SINCE THEN AND ONE OF THOSE THINGS IS TO ASK FOR A NEW POSITION FOR THE MENTAL HEALTH BOARD. OUR NUMBERS ARE GROWING QUITE RAPIDLY IN TERMS OF THE NUMBERS THAT NEED SERVICES THAT THE

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SPECIALTY COURT CAN PROVIDE. ADDITIONALLY, WE ARE SEEING A LOT MORE I NEED INDIVIDUALS AS WE'VE TAKEN ON FELONY OFFENSES INTO THE MENTAL HEALTH COURT CONJUNCTION. I BELIEVE THE DAS OFFICE AND JUDGED TO BE HAVE EXPRESSED SUPPORT FOR ANOTHER POSITION. I WOULD LIKE TO CALL THE INDIVIDUAL A CASE MANAGER.

THAT WOULD BE KIND OF IN BETWEEN WHERE THEY ARE AND WHERE OUR CASEWORKER IS. I LIKE TO REQUEST THAT WE BE ABLE TO CREATE THAT DECISION, AND THEY COME IN AT A GRADE OF 119. I WOULD LIKE THIS PERSON TO HAVE SPECIALIZED EDUCATION AND EXPERIENCE THAT CAN HELP WITH THE WORKFLOW WE ARE EXPERIENCING. WE HAD ANOTHER INDIVIDUAL INTO THE COURT THIS MORNING. WE'RE UP TO 25 PEOPLE RIGHT NOW. A LOT OF THESE PEOPLE ARE VERY HIGH NEEDS, MEANING THEY NEED A LOT OF ADDITIONAL SERVICES PROVIDED TO THEM, WHICH MEANS MY STAFF ASKED TO GO FIND THOSE SERVICES AND MAKE SURE THEY ARE ACTUALLY RECEIVING THIS SERVICES THAT THEY NEED AS WELL AS KEEPING UP WITH DATA AND TRACKING THE DATA THAT WE HAVE TO TRACK FOR THE PURPOSES OF BEING ABLE TO DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT WE ARE BEING EFFECTIVE OR NOT. AT OUR LAST PRESENTATION, WE DID INDICATE TO THE COURT THAT WE ARE ABLE TO SAVE THE COUNTY QUITE A BIT OF MONEY BY NOT HAVING THESE PEOPLE IN THE JAIL YOU CAN BELIEVE THIS NEW POSITION WILL ENABLE US TO GET MORE PEOPLE OUT OF THE JAIL INTO THESE SERVICES SO THEY CAN HOPEFULLY BE SUCCESSFUL AND PRODUCTIVE WORK SO FAR, WE HAVE 0% RECIDIVISM RATE. EVERYONE WHO HAS GRADUATED FROM OUR PROGRAM. IF WE CONTINUE ALONG THE TRACK TO DO THAT, THAT'S A BENEFIT TO THE COUNTY IN TERMS OF COST SAVINGS AND IN TERMS OF THE INDIVIDUALS AND FAMILIES AFFECTED BY THIS IN A POSITIVE WAY, AS WELL. SO THAT'S WHEN ASKED FOR. ADDITIONALLY, I'M NOT SURE IF THIS IS THE PROPER FORUM OR THIS OR NOT, BUT I HAD REQUESTED A STEP INCREASE FOR JAMIE, AS SHE HAS INCREASED HER WORK LOAD CONSIDERABLY, HAVING TO MANAGE THE ADDITIONAL CASES THAT WE HAVE AND ADDITIONAL TYPES OF CASES THAT WE HAVE AND SUPERVISING MORE AND MORE PROCESSES AND HER WORK IN THE COMMUNITY TO BUILD RAPPORT WITH DIFFERENT COMMUNITY AGENCIES IS IMPORTANT AS WELL AS HER ABILITY TO INFORM THE COMMUNITY AND EDUCATE THE COMMUNITY ABOUT WHAT WE ARE DOING, AND I WANTED TO ASK FOR AT LEAST A TWO STEP INCREASE. I DON'T KNOW IF I NEED TO GO THROUGH THE COMMITTEE FOR THAT OR NOT, BUT I DID WANT TO BRING IT TO THE COMMISSIONERS ATTENTION THAT I BELIEVE THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL AND WELL-DESERVED FOR HER TO

RECEIVE THAT STEP INCREASE. >> PERFECT. WE WILL THROW IT TO COMMISSIONER INGALSBE AND GIVE IT TO EACH COMMISSIONER FOR

QUESTIONS. >> MAYBE JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, BECAUSE THE PACKET THAT WE RECEIVED SAYS IT'S A MENTAL HEALTH COURT CASEWORKER GRADE 116. THINK YOU TITLE THAT JUST A LITTLE DIFFERENTLY.

>> I DID AFTER CAREFUL CONSIDERATION AND REVIEW OF WHAT THE NEEDS ARE OF THE COURT. I BELIEVE WE NEED SOMEONE WITH A LITTLE MORE EDUCATION, AND I WOULD PREFER THEM TO HAVE A LICENSE. BUT AT LEAST TO HAVE A MASTERS DEGREE.

IN LINE WITH THAT, WE WILL HAVE TO BRING THEM UP A LITTLE BIT TO MAKE SURE WE CAN GET THE CANDIDATES THAT WE NEED TO

APPLY. >> CAN YOU REPEAT THE GRADE

AGAIN? >> I THINK 119.

>> WHAT WAS THE TITLE AGAIN? >> CASE MANAGER. CASE MANAGER COORDINATOR. AND I AM DEVELOPING A JOB DESCRIPTION TO

GO ALONG WITH THAT, AS WELL >> YOU ARE DOING A PHENOMENAL JOB OUT THERE. I KNOW SHE IS A CRITICAL PIECE OF THE BACK ON EFFORT, SO I'M GLAD YOU GUYS ARE HERE AND THE MORE WE INTERACT, UNFOLD AND EVOLVE IN THIS OCCUPYING, THE BETTER WE

ARE AS A IMMUNITY. >> SO YOU KNOW, I'M LOOKING AT THE OVERALL BENEFIT THIS COULD HAVE FOR THE COUNTY. ONE OF THE BIG INITIATIVES IS REDUCING THE COST OF THE JAILS AND BRING YOUR INMATES HOME. SO I'M LOOKING AT THIS FROM THAT LENS.

CO-KIND OF BROUGHT INTO SOME OF THIS AREA. HOW DO WE REDUCE EXPENSES IN THE JAIL AND HOW WE BRING INMATES HOME? SO I DO

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SUPPORT THE ADDITIONAL PERSON HERE. SEE YOU SAY YOU JUST

STARTED SEEING FELONY CASES? >> WE HAVE STARTED TAKING FELONY CASES. WE HAVE ABOUT SEVEN NOW, ABOUT SEVEN ON OUR DOCKET RIGHT NOW AND THEY CONTINUE TO GROW. AS THE DAS OFFICE HAS SEEN THE BENEFITS AND NEED TO, WE ARE FINDING THAT MORE AND MORE OF THOSE ARE ABLE TO AVAIL THEMSELVES OF THE

COURT, AS WELL. >> COMMISSIONER SHELL .

>> I'M GOOD. THANKS FOR BEING HERE. REMINDING EVERYBODY I USUALLY ACCEPT EVERYTHING OVER THESE WORKSHOPS AND WEIGHT TO MAKE A DECISION UNTIL WE'VE SEEN EVERYTHING.

>> I THINK THAT'S A GOOD APPROACH. COMMISSIONER SMITH.

>> ON YOUR SECOND REQUEST, I THINK IT PROBABLY NEEDS TO GO TO THE COMPENSATION COMMITTEE. I WOULD DO IT BEFORE WE DO OUR BUDGET DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? SO WE CAN GET THEIR RECOMMENDATION. I COULD NOT AGREE MORE WITH YOU. DOING A GREAT JOB WITH THAT IS THE PROCESS THAT WE HAVE SET UP, SO I WOULD JUST RECOMMEND THAT YOU DO THAT. AS FAR AS THE OVERALL, THIS IS THE ONE POSITION THAT DID NOT HAVE KIND OF THE BACKGROUND AS FAR AS MAYBE I AM JUST NOT SEEING IT HERE, ON THE SALARY AND THOSE KINDS OF THINGS.

>> IT WAS LISTED ON PAGE ONE HOWEVER THE CHANGE AND GRADE, I WILL UPDATE THAT IN MY SPREADSHEET. IT'S GOING TO HAVE TO BE JUST OVER 77,000 FOR THE POSITION.

>> OKAY, THANK YOU. THEN I WOULD JUST WHEN THE REQUEST CAME IN, I WOULD JUST, YOU KNOW, LOOKS LIKE IT WAS SENT TO THREE MEMBERS OF THE COURT. JUST LOOKING AT THE EMAIL, I WOULD JUST REITERATE IF IT GETS SENT TO THREE MEMBERS OF THE COURT BUT NO ONE COULD RESPOND. I WOULD JUST SAY SEND IT TO THE COURT AND ASK FOR A RESPONSE. OR IF YOU WANT TO SEND IT TO US INDIVIDUALLY, WE CAN HELP TALK THROUGH IT.

>> SHE DID NOT KNOW. SHE DOES NOW.

>> I'M JUST SAYING. >> YOU CAN SEND IT TO THE LOW COURT JUST KNOW WE WILL NOT REPLY.

>> HOWEVER, THE PREFERENCE IS NOT TO.

>> WE KNOW NOT TO REPLY. >> I WOULD ENCOURAGE ESPECIALLY WHEN IT COMES TO OVERALL BUDGETARY REQUEST, MAKE SURE TO AT LEAST GIVE A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND TO WHICH ONE OF US SO WE KNOW WHAT IS COMING. ALL OF US LOOK AT DIFFERENT THINGS TO TRY TO ADD OR TAKE OUT OF THE BUDGET ERIC

>> I UNDERSTAND. >> THANK YOU, DR. BROWN. MOST

GREAT. >> ANYTHING ELSE?

>> I DON'T THINK SO. >> EFFICIENT. WE WERE SO EFFICIENT. WE APPRECIATE THAT. SURE.

>> SURE, THANK YOU. >> I WILL TRY TO BE AS EFFICIENT AS JUDGE BROWN. GOOD MORNING, JUDGE AND COMMISSIONERS. MY NAME IS MAX, AND I AM FROM THE DISTRICT CLERK'S OFFICE. WE ARE BEFORE YOU TODAY ASKING FOR FIVE NEW MEMBERS OF OURS THAT. THE GRAPH THAT I PUT IN FRONT OF YOU IS BASED ON OCA REPORTING THAT'S BEEN DONE'S 2022. THIS YEAR AS OF JUNE 30TH. AND I WANTED TO PUT THAT IN FRONT OF YOU TO KIND OF HELP ILLUSTRATE THE NEED FOR THESE PERSONNEL. AS YOU'LL NOTICE FOR 2024, WE ARE ON TRACK FOR THE LARGEST CASELOAD WE HAVE HAD HISTORICALLY. WE ALREADY HAVE MORE THAN HALF OF LAST YEAR'S NEW CASE FILINGS AS OF JUNE 30TH. THEY ARE CONTINUING TO GROW. THE COURTS ARE ALSO MORE EFFICIENT NOW AND THEY ARE ACT FLEET DISPOSING OF MORE CASES WHICH MEANS THAT THERE ARE NOW MORE CASE FILES THAT WE MUST CLOSE OUT, PROCESS AND THEN VERIFY. CURRENTLY OUR ORGANIZATIONAL STRUCTURE, WE ONLY HAVE TWO CLERK STATIC HEADED TO THE VERIFICATION OF OUR WARD RECORDS WHICH IS WHY WE ARE TESTING AN ADDITIONAL TWO MORE TO ASSIST ON THAT FRONT, AND IN OUR CIVIL SIDE, WE CURRENTLY HAVE FIVE DEPUTIES WHEN THERE ARE ACTUALLY SIX JUDGES, SO WE ARE REQUESTING ANOTHER SENIOR CLERK SO THAT WAY WE CAN HAVE ONE CLERK FOR EACH DISTRICT JUDGE THAT WE SERVE. THEN ADDITIONALLY, WE ARE REQUEST IN A CLERK TO SPECIALIZE FOR PROTECTIVE ORDERS AS THAT CASELOAD HAS ALSO GROWN. THERE WAS RECENTLY

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A LOT OF CHANGE ON THE CRIMINAL SIDE THAT REQUIRED PROTECTIVE ORDERS BE FILED IN SPECIFIC CASES. AND WITH THAT GROWING CASELOAD, THAT'S WHY WE ARE NEEDING AN ADDITIONAL, DEDICATED CLERK TO HANDLE ORDERS FOR THE CIVIL AND MODELS. LASTLY, ALONG WITH THE INCREASING VOLUME AND THE CASES PROCESSING, WE ARE ASKING FOR AN ADDITIONAL FRONT END WORK TO HELP WITH COPYING REQUEST, NEW CASE FILINGS, THAT SORT OF THING. IN TOTAL, THOUGH, JUST TO KEEP IT SHORT AND SIMPLE, WE DO APOLOGIZE FOR THE TARDINESS OF THIS REQUEST. OBVIOUSLY, THE PERSONNEL SHOULD HAVE BEEN SOMETHING THAT WAS SUBMITTED PREVIOUSLY AT THE BEGINNING OF THE BUDGET CYCLE UNFORTUNATELY, THE PREVIOUS CLERK FAILED TO DO THAT. I'M HERE HOPING THAT MAYBE WE CAN SALVAGE IT TO SOME DEGREE.

>> MOST DEFINITELY. IT IS NOT TOO LATE. YOU ARE LITERALLY ON TIME. SO THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING YOU'RE DOING FOR THE COUNTY. WE ARE MOST GREAT. I KNOW IT HAS BEEN A TESTING TIME FOR YOU AND THE DEPARTMENT. WE THANK YOU FOR CONTINUING TO STAY TRUE NORTH IN SERVING OUR COMMUNITY.

>> ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? >> QUESTIONS, THANK YOU FOR

BEING HERE. >> CURRENTLY IN THE POSITIONS THAT YOU HAVE OUTLINED IN YOUR, IN THE PROPOSED ORGANIZATIONAL CHART, HOW MANY OPEN POSITIONS DO YOU HAVE?

>> WE ARE CURRENTLY FULLY STAFFED MANFULLY. CORRECT.

OTHER OBVIOUSLY THE DISTRICT CLERK THEMSELVES BUT WE ARE FULLY STAFFED AND TRAINED AT THIS POINT.

>> OKAY. I'M JUST LOOKING AT THE OVERALL NUMBERS IN THE REQUEST THAT CAME IN. IF YOU LOOK AT THE ACTUAL DIRECT CONSTITUENT SERVICE STAFF, IT IS LIKE A 30% INCREASE IN PERSONNEL. OR THERE ABOUT. IT IS A BIG INCREASE. JUST THE OVERALL VOLUME, I LIKE YOUR CHART BUT KNOWING WHAT THE OVERALL ACTUAL CASE NUMBERS IN IT MAY BE LISTED IN THE JUSTIFICATION, I JUST DID NOT SEE IT THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL,

AS WELL. >> UNDERSTOOD, THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU, MY FRIEND. >> THANK YOU, THANK YOU.

>> AND I'M GLAD YOU'RE HERE EARLY. MOST DEFINITELY AWESOME.

I HAVE ALREADY TEXTED THE DA TO SAY WE HAVE A GOOD CADENCE

GOING. SO YOU'RE UP HERE >> GOOD MORNING, JUDGE AND COMMISSIONERS. UP HERE BECAUSE I MAY HAVE NOT PROPERLY SAVED MY ORIGINAL REQUEST DURING THE BUDGETING PROCESS, SO I APOLOGIZE FOR THE INCONVENIENCE. ADDITIONALLY, I AM REQUESTING A LAPTOP AND SCREEN FOR MY PRESENCE, FOR A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND. YOU ALL CREATED THE J.P. COURT LAST FALL. AS OF FEBRUARY, WE FINALLY STARTED HEARING CASES ACCEPTING THEM AND HEARING THEM. THE NUMBER OF CASES THAT HAVE BEEN FILED HAS STARTED TO INCREASE MONTH BY MONTH. THERE HAVE BEEN SOME ISSUES WITH TYLER AND COUNTY DEPARTMENTS, BUT WE ANTICIPATE THIS TO BE FINALLY FINISHED WITHIN THE NEXT MONTH, AT THE END OF THIS MONTH. SO WE PARTICIPATE IN MORE ENTITIES FILING IN OUR COURT AT THAT TIME.

>> CAN YOU EXPLAIN FOR A SECOND TO LIFT AS I DON'T WANT TO EAT INTO YOUR TIME BUT YOU'RE HAVING TROUBLE WITH TYLER, YOU

SAID X >> YES, GETTING US TO BE ABLE TO BE ON THE SYSTEM AND TYLER WORKING WITH ODYSSEY FOR LIKE APARTMENTS TO FILE ELECTRONICALLY WITHOUT HAVING TO COME INTO OUR OFFICE. IT WAS DAN, MY CORE ADMINISTRATOR, DEALING WITH A LOT OF THAT TODAY. EMAILING THE PEOPLE BECAUSE THEY'VE BEEN TAKING A LITTLE BIT LONGER. WE GOT SOME

GOOD FEEDBACK THIS MORNING. >> I'M JUST GOING TO ASSUME

THAT YOU WILL BE ALL RIGHT. >> OKAY, WILL DO, THANK YOU.

>> VERY AWESOME AND RECEPTIVE. A GREAT CONTRIBUTION IN THAT

SPACE. >> IT'S BEEN DIFFICULT FOR THE ADMINISTRATOR TO EFFECTIVELY PERFORM HIS DUTIES, ADMINISTRATIVE DUTIES, WHEN ALSO HAVING TO ONE CLERK DUTIES. IN ADDITION TO COMPLETING HIS ADMINISTRATIVE REPORT, MY COURT ADMINISTRATOR HELPS TRAIN OTHER STAFF FROM AROUND THE COUNTY. THERE WILL COME INTO THE OFFICE. HE IS

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DOING THIS WHILE TAKING CALLS AND DEALING WITH THE PUBLIC THAT COMES INTO OUR OFFICE. FINALLY, THE ADMINISTRATOR DESERVES HIS TIME OFF FOR APPOINTMENTS AND HIS EARNED VACATION. WHEN HE DOES TAKE THE TIME OFF, I DO GO SIT IN THE FRONT AND HELP CLIENTS OUT. IF IT WAS NOT FOR JUDGE SMITH'S STAFF, I WOULD BASICALLY HAVE TO ASK THEM TO COME BACK WHEN HE IS BACK, SO I APPRECIATE JUDGE SMITH ALLOWING HER STAFF TO COME TO THE FINAL TWO MEETINGS OF WHAT I NEED TO DO TO TAKE STEPS WITH CERTAIN THINGS. IT WOULD BE A DISSERVICE TO HAVE THE PUBLIC HAVE TO COME BACK ON ANOTHER DATE. I AM ALSO ASKING FOR A LAPTOP AND DOCKING SCREEN FOR RESIDENCE. ON AVERAGE, I DO AROUND FIVE WARRANTS PER WEEK AFTER HOURS AND ON WEEKENDS OR IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT.

EVERY DAY, I DO LIKE MY LAPTOP BACK AND FORTH IN MY OFFICE HOME AND I DON'T WANT IT TO MESS UP WITH ALL THE JOSTLING THAT'S GOING BACK AND FORTH OR SOMETIMES I DON'T GO STRAIGHT HOME AND I JUST WANTED TO BE BURGLARIZED OR TAKEN. TAKING STEPS TO KEEP IT FROM BEING BURGLARIZED AND STUFF. SO JUST A FEW -- DATA POINTS HERE. SO FAR SINCE FEBRUARY, WE'VE HAD 268 CRIMINAL AND NONCRIMINAL CITATIONS FILED IN THE COURT.

WE'VE HAD OVER 103 CASES, WHICH INCLUDES CIVIL CASES AND TRUANCY AND PARENT CONTRIBUTING CASES. WE EXPECT THE TRUANCY TO INCREASE. NOW THAT DA'S OFFICE HAS PUT IN ANOTHER INDIVIDUAL TO OVERSEE THE TRUANCY. I'VE SIGNED OVER 200 WARRANTS SO FAR THIS YEAR. WE DO NEED THAT EXTERIOR HELP IF POSSIBLE. ANY

QUESTIONS? >> I LOVE IT. I AM SO GREAT BECAUSE I WAS, IF YOU MIGHT REMEMBER, ONE OF THE COURT MEMBERS THAT WANTED YOU TO HAVE AN AUTONOMOUS OFFICE, NOT AS UPSET IS KIND OF HOW I SUMMARIZED IT IN MY HEAD. JUDGE SMITH'S OFFICE. YOU JUST HELPED ME SEE ONE OF THE BENEFITS OF BEING TOGETHER, SO THANK YOU FOR SHOWING ME THAT.

I AM ALWAYS LEARNING. AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONTRIBUTION.

CLEARLY, THE NEED IS THERE AND YOUR NEWLY CREATED OFFICE A LOT OF POTENTIAL AND A LOT OF IMPACTS WHERE WE COULD HELP PEOPLE IN WAYS THAT WE MAY BE LEARNED AS MUCH AS WE COULD

HAVE, SO THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. I UNDERSTAND AND SEE THE NEED, SO THANK YOU.

>> WE ALWAYS KNEW THAT THE WORK LOAD WAS GOING TO INCREASE WHICH WAS THE WHOLE REASON BEHIND CREATING THAT OFFICE.

JUST TO SEE YOU WITH ONE EMPLOYEE IS NOT ENOUGH. I THINK ABOUT WHERE IS THIS PERSON GOING TO GO?

>> THERE IS ONE DESK STILL REMAINING IN FRONT OF WHERE JUDGE SMITH'S CLERKS CURRENTLY SIT, SO THAT IS WHERE WE

ANTICIPATE THIS PERSON GOING. >> THAT IS IN THE NEW DESIGN ASSESSMENT WE ARE WORKING ON, RIGHT?

>> WONDERFUL. IS THIS A POTENTIAL CANDIDATE TO FILL

THAT POSITIO? >> MY PERSONAL ASSISTANT RIGHT

NOW OR AN INTERN I GUESS. >> I LOVE IT. COMMISSIONER

SHALL, COMMISSIONER SMITH. >> I THINK WE ALL ANTICIPATED THAT THE OFFICE NEEDS TO GROW OVER TIME. I WOULD SAY I CANNOT REITERATE AND AGREE MORE ON JEFF. I'VE SEEN HIM CONVERT OUR ENTIRE SYSTEM IN LESS THAN A MONTH. IF YOU HAVE COORDINATED WITH HIM, HE HAS ENOUGH EXPERIENCE HE MAY BE ABLE TO DO IT BY A COUPLE OF DAYS, NOT THE END OF THE MONTH.

I WOULD REACH OUT WHEN YOU LEVE HERE AND TRY TO MAKE THAT

CONTACT. >> ANOTHER HAS BEEN SOME STAFF TURNOVER IN DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS, BUT I WILL WORK WITH THEM TO INCLUDE THAT ERIC

>> THANK YOU. I GUESS THAT IS THE END OF IT.

>> THANK YOU. >> SO I HAVE TEXTED RDA. HE WAS UNDER THE IMPRESSION IT WAS WITH YOU AT THE GOVERNMENT CENTER AND I HAVE GIVEN HIM THE UPDATE. AND I'VE OFFERED, HE IS NOT REPLIED YET HAVE OFFERED TO MOVE IT TO NEXT WEEK. THERE IS NO HARM MOVING IT A WEEK. JUST SO YOU KNOW. WHILE WE DO THAT I WANTED TO ASK YOU ABOUT OUR OWN 45, AND WHO THAT MAY

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BE. >> JUDGE HALL.

>> JUDGE HALL, OKAY, PERFECT. >> YESTERDAY I RECEIVED AN EMAIL FROM THEIR LEGAL ADMINISTRATIVE ASSISTANT THAT STATED HE WANTED TO PRESENT TO THE COURT. HE HAD INITIALLY WANTED TO PRESENT TO ME THE IDEA OF NEW STAFF BUT THAT HE DID WANT A BUDGET WORKSHOP AND HE WILL BE ON VACATION FOR THE

NEXT TWO WEEKS. >> YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE

DA? >> YES.

>> HE JUST TEXTED ME. HE WILL BE HERE.

>> I WAS UNDER THE IMPRESSION HE WOULD WANT TO BE HERE TO

PRESENT TO THE COURT >> I TOLD HIM TIME IS TICKING AND WE ARE MOVING EFFICIENTLY SO CHOP CHOP TURKEY SAYS ON THE

WAY, SO WE ARE GOOD. >> SO I DO NOT SEE JUDGE HALL.

HE WAS SCHEDULED FOR 11:45. I CAN GO CHECK TO SEE IF HE IS

OUT THERE. >> SO WE CAN --

>> TYPICALLY, WE ARE NOT ALWAYS STARTING RIGHT AT 11 TALK WITH THE WORKSHOP. SO WE CAN FILL IN A FEW MINUTES IN CASE WE ARE RUNNING LATE. SO WE CAN GO TO 10 MINUTES, FOR THE NEXT --

>> AND IF THE COURT HAS ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT ANYTHING, I KNOW THAT YOU'VE ONLY HAD IT A WEEK NOW, BUT WE CAN ALWAYS DISCUSS ANY ITEMS THAT THE COURT HAS THAT THEY WANT TO DISCUSS DURING THE BUDGET WORKSHOP, AS WELL.

>> GREAT REMINDER.

>> THE TIME ON THE RADIO. >> USING THE VIEWERSHIP THERE.

>> IT WILL DROP FROM THREE TO ONE.

>> EXACTLY. >> SO I CAN TAKE THIS TIME TO LET YOU KNOW THAT WE HAVE A BUDGET WORKSHOP NEXT WEEK.

SOCIAL SERVICE AGENCIES ARE COMING NEXT WEEK. OUR FINAL BUDGET WORKSHOP ON THE 20TH WILL ALSO BE HELD AT 11:00. WE HAVE ONE DEPARTMENT SIGNED UP. THEN WE WILL HAVE OUR PUBLIC HEARING ON THE 20TH, AS WELL, AT 1:00. WE DO HAVE TO KEEP

THAT ERIC >> THAT'S RIGHT. GOOD MORNING, WE STILL THE VIEWING PUBLIC YOUR NAME AND TITLE.

>> MY NAME IS JIMMY ALLEN HALL, JUDGE OF HAYS COUNTY COURT OF

LAW NUMBER ONE. >> THE TIME IS YOURS.

>> OKAY. I HAVE PUT IN A REQUEST TO HAVE -- PARDON ME FOR HUFFING AND PUFFIN I CLIMBED THE STAIRS. I'VE GOT

TO GET MY STEPS IN. >> A JOB, CONGRATULATIONS ON

THAT. >> A FULL TOWN PARALEGAL OR THE COUNTY COURTS OF LAW. TIME IS ALL WE HAVE. WE ARE BORN AND THEN WE DIE. I'M GOING TO TRY TO MAKE THE BEST USE OF THE TIME THAT I DO HAVE YOUR GUY LIKE YOU WORK HARD, LIKE TO WORK SMART. MY FATHER, THE STORY ABOUT HIM IS HE WOULD ALWAYS ASK ME, WHY HAVEN'T I DONE THIS OR WHY HAVEN'T I DONE THAT? I HAVEN'T HAD TIME. TRUTH TOLD, IN A LONGER DISCUSSION WITH HIM, IT IS HOW I PRIORITIZE MY TIME WHICH IS DIFFERENT THAN HOW HE PRIORITIZES MY TIME. BUT I AM TRYING TO PRIORITIZE MY TIME AS JUDGE OF AN ORDER LOW NUMBER ONE AS WELL AS ADMINISTRATIVE JUDGE FOR THE COUNTY WORDS OF LAW. A FUNNY STORY I TELL IS THAT I LOST THE ELECTION.

NOMINATED JUDGE JOHNSON. HE NOMINATED ME. I GOT TO VOTES AND LOST. SO I GOT MORE ON MY PLATE. WANT TO BE AS EFFICIENT AS POSSIBLE, NOT JUST FOR ME, BUT FOR THE CONSTITUENTS THAT WE SERVE. WHAT WE DO AS JUDGES, WE MAKE DECISIONS, WHICH WE

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REDUCED TO ORDERS AND JUDGMENTS. WE HEAR STUFF, APPLY THE LAW TO THE FACT AS WELL AS BEING ADMINISTRATIVE JUDGE AND THE OTHER JUDGES. THEY HELP OUT TREMENDOUSLY. WE TRY TO GET OUR JOB DONE, AND THAT MAKES I GUESS OUR CONSTITUENTS HAPPY BECAUSE THEY GET DECISIONS. THEY MAY NOT LIKE ALL OF THEM BUT THEY HAVE A DECISION. I'VE ASKED FOR A PARALEGAL BECAUSE THIS SUMMER, SPRING SEMESTER AND FALL SEMESTER, WE HAVE HAD INTERNS FROM TEXAS STATES LEGALS STUDY PROGRAM. I TAUGHT THERE YEARS AGO AND I HAVE USED INTERNS FROM THERE IN MY PRIVATE PRACTICE. SEVERAL BECAME PERMANENT, FULL-TIME EMPLOYEES FOR ME, BUT IT IS GREAT TO HAVE THAT ADDITIONAL TIME THAT THEY PROVIDE TO GET THINGS DONE. I HAVE A LIST.

FOUR PAGES, OR A LITTLE MORE, OF ALL THE THINGS THAT I NEED TO GET DONE. WHERE MY PARALEGAL COULD HELP ME. GOING BACK TO MY FATHER'S STORY ABOUT IT IS IMPORTANT TO PRIORITIZE THINGS.

THIS HELPS ME DO IT. AS WELL AS TELLING ME'S. BECAUSE IT'S NOT JUST MY OUR WEEK. IT IS SOMEONE ELSE IS OUR PER WEEK.

THE INTERNS WE'VE HAD FROM TEXAS STATE HAVE HELPED ME, HELPED JUDGE BROWN HERE IN THE AUDIENCE AS WELL AS JUDGE JOHNSON WHEN WE HAVE QUESTIONS, LEGAL QUESTIONS THAT WE DO NOT HAVE TIME TO GO DRILL DOWN REAL DEEP, AS WELL AS IF WE HAVE A MORE COMPLICATED CASE IN WHICH WE HAVE BOTH SIDES ARGUING POINTS OF THE LAW. IT IS GREAT TO HAVE SOMEONE TO SAY CAN YOU GO DIG DEEPER ON THIS? DO THE CASES REALLY SAY WHAT THEY SAY THEY DO AND WHAT OTHER CASES ARE OUT THERE? AND HAVING SOMEONE TO DISCUSS THE ISSUES WITH. YOU SIT DOWN AND CHOP UP THE CASE AND PIECES, ANALYZE EACH POINT AND COME UP WITH DECISIONS. I WANT A DECISION THAT IS CORRECT IF POSSIBLE.

PROPER APPLICATION OF THE LAW AND THE FACT THAT GETS A DECISION THAT HOPEFULLY BOTH PARTIES WILL NOT APPEAL BECAUSE THAT IS JUST MORE TIME AND MONEY. SO MY GOAL OF HAVING A PARALEGAL IS TO HELP ME DO MY JOB AS A JUDGE AS WELL AS ADMINISTRATIVE JUDGE. ONE OF THE THINGS I WANT TO START IN THIS COUNTY IS A DWI COURT. I HAVE NOT HAD TIME TO DO THAT. I JUST HAVE NOT HAD TIME. THERE ARE GREAT REASONS TO HAVE A DWI COURT IN TERMS OF REDUCING RISK ATAVISM, REHABILITATING PEOPLE AND HAVING POSITIVE OUTCOMES. IT IS JUST A GREAT IDEA. IN OUR POPULATION. WE SHOULD HAVE ONE. THE STATUTE SAYS YOU ARE TO HAVE ONE. WE DON'T GET THE MONEY UNTIL WE HAVE ONE.

HOPEFULLY, THERE IS GRANT MONEY. I HAD A FRIEND WHO WORKED FOR THE ADMINISTRATION WHO SAYS SHE WILL HELP ME DO IT OR IT HAVE I HAD TIME TO? NO, I'VE BEEN BUSY. I'VE GOT ANOTHER LIST OF CASES THAT I'VE BEEN WORKING ON AND THESE PARTIES ARE ENTITLED TO MY ATTENTION TO GET THEM DONE. I HAVE NOT HAD TIME. THE TEST OF WHETHER THIS WILL BE A VALUABLE, ADDITIONAL EMPLOYEE IS WHEN I HAVE HAD -- YOU KNOW, PART-TIME, BUT WHEN I HAVE PARALEGAL INTERNS, MORE DECISIONS GET ISSUED. THAT IS TO ME WHEN I AM HERE TO DO, MAKE DECISIONS. THAT'S WHAT BROWN AND JOHNSON ARE HERE TO DO. SO THE MORE RESOURCES WE HAVE THE BETTER JOB WE WILL DO.

MORE DECISIONS CAN BE MADE. SO THAT IS MY REQUEST.

>> BEAUTIFUL. COMMISSIONER SMITH.

>> JUST A COUPLE OF NOTES. I ASSUME THIS WOULD BE ACE LIT AMONGST THE THREE COUNTY COURTS OF LAW.

>> DEPENDING ON WHO NEEDS THE PERSON AT THE TIME . AS FAR AS THE GRANT ASSISTANCE, I WOULD ALSO ENCOURAGE YOU TO TALK TO THE GRANT DEPARTMENT TO HELP YOU WITH THAT. I THINK IT IS A GREAT IDEA. WHENEVER WE ESTABLISHED THE MENTAL HEALTH COURT AND WENT THROUGH THE INDIVIDUAL STAT SHEET ON ALL THE POPULATION REQUIREMENTS, TO GET LEGALLY THE THE STATUTE, I THINK IT IS A PRETTY SIMPLE PROCESS LOGISTICALLY AS FAR AS ACTUALLY DESIGNATED ONE OF THE COURTS MORE OR LESS. BUT THERE ARE SOME OTHER STEPS IN THEIR AND I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO MOVE FORWARD TO THAT I SEE THAT IT IS NEEDED THE OTHER QUESTION WAS SPECIFIC TO CASE VOLUME ACROSS THE BOARD ON THE COUNTY WORDS OF LAW. IF I OR WE CAN GET THAT, I KNOW THERE IS AN

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ADDITIONAL CASE LOG. I KNOW IT'S GOING UP ALL THE TIME WITH YOU. WE ARE HAVING MORE CASES FILED. YOUR HEARING MORE

IN CASE VOLUME. >> I THOUGHT YOU SAID CASELOAD.

>> VOLUME, VOLUME. THE REASON I ASKED FOR THAT IS BECAUSE I KNOW THAT THE LAST TWO LEGISLATIVE SESSIONS THAT WE LOOKED AT THE ESTABLISHMENT OF AN ADDITIONAL DISTRICT WITH COURT DECISIONS HERE. IF I LOOK AT THE OVERALL CASE VOLUME FOUR WHERE IT WAS WHEN THE COUNTY COURT OF LAW NUMBER THREE WAS ESTABLISHED, I WOULD NOT DOUBT THAT WE ARE PAST THAT RIGHT NOW WITH THE NEED FOR ANOTHER COUNTY COURT OF LAW. I DON'T KNOW THAT BUT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE WHAT THOSE NUMBERS LOOK LIKE OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS. AND COMMISSIONER COHEN OR COMMISSIONER SHELL MAY KNOW THAT OFF THE TOP OF THEIR HEAD, BUT I DO NOT . IF WE ARE GOING INTO THIS PROCESS, IT IS NOT PACIFIC TO THIS POSITION, BUT OVER TIME, I THINK WE PROBABLY NEED TO GO TO GOING INTO THIS BUDGET PROCESS. WE DO OR IF WE AS A COUNTY OR IF IN GENERAL THE LEGISLATURE LOOK AND ANOTHER COUNTY ORDER OF LAW HERE, I'D KIND OF LIKE TO KNOW THAT BEFORE WE START THE BUDGET PROCESS FOR NEXT YEAR IN ACTUAL DOLLARS. END OF HAPPY PLANNING FOR THAT DURING THIS BUDGET

PROCESS. >> I LOVE TO LOOK AT NUMBERS AND DO THE ANALYSIS. YOU AND I ARE ON THE SAME PAGE THERE.

HAVING A PARALEGAL TO HAVE THE TIME WOULD BE GREAT. I JUST HAVE NOT HAD THE TIME. I HAVE TALKED TO MICHAEL, THE CHIEF ADMINISTRATOR AND ASKED, HOW DO I GET THESE NUMBERS? THERE IS SOME WAY WE CAN RUN IT. I'LL FIGURE IT OUT. BUT I NEED SOMEONE WHO IS REALLY FOCUSED. THE TASK TODAY IS TO DO THIS, NOT INTERRUPTED BY THESE THINGS. ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS ABOUT HAVING A PARALEGAL, WE CAN ASSIGN THEM TO DO SOME TASK AND THEY DON'T SUFFER AS WE DUE TO INTERRUTIONS. GETTING READY AND AN ATTORNEY WANTS AND BECAUSE THEY WANTED HIS VISION -- A DECISION TOMORROW MORNING. CAN I GET ON THE DOCKET TOMORROW MORNING? THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS I'VE BEEN WORKING ON TO GET THE ANALYSIS, SO I CAN LOOK AT AND SEE ABOUT THE TIME TO DO THIS WITH LOCAL RULES. GOT STARTED WITH ONE LEGAL INTERN. IT IS JUST THE CONTINUITY THAT I NEED. THE ATTORNEY WALKED IN THIS MORNING. SAID IT'S LIKE READING A BOOK. EVERY TIME YOU SIT IT DOWN, YOU GOT TO BRING UP IN YOUR MIND WHERE YOU WERE. I LIKE TO HAVE A PARALEGAL OR ME WITH MORE TIME TO FOCUS ON SOMETHING TO GET IT DONE RATHER THAN THE BACK AND FORTH. THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS.

>> COMMISSIONER COHEN . >> NO QUESTIONS. I'M GOOD, ALSO. I GUESS THE ONE QUESTION I HAD, WOULD THIS BE THE FIRST PARALEGAL FOR THE COUNTY COURT OF LAW JUDGES, OR DO YOU HAVE

OTHERS? >> TO MY KNOWLEDGE --

>> IT WOULD BE THE FIRST. THANKS FOR BEING HERE.

>> THIS IS A STAGE IN THE BUDGET PROCESS WHERE WE ARE CAPTURING THE CLARIFICATION PROCESS BUT DECISIONS WILL BE

MADE AT THE END. >> THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME ERIC

>> WAS A SMALL GAP, SO LET'S TAKE A RECESS UNTIL WE GET THE DA IN HERE.

>> ALL YOURS IF YOU WILL TELL THE VIEWING PUBLIC YOUR NAME

AND TITLE. >> NAME IS KELLY HIGGINS, CRIMINAL DISTRICT ATTORNEY FOR HAYS COUNTY. GREETINGS, COMMISSIONERS, EVERYBODY ELSE. I AM HERE MAINLY TO PROVIDE CONTEXT FOR OUR BUDGET. YOU WILL HAVE NOTED, I HOPE, THAT WE DID NOT ASK FOR ANY BIG DECISIONS THE REASON FOR THAT IS WE ARE ALREADY OUT OF SPACE. IT'S NOT THAT WE DON'T NEED NEW POSITIONS. LITERALLY DON'T HAVE ANYWHERE TO PUT ONE. I'VE GOT FOUR LAWYERS WORKING IN ONE ROOM. I'VE GOT FOR INVESTIGATORS OUT BOARD OF THE OFFICE, WORKING TOGETHER IN ONE ROOM. WE NEED WHAT LOOKS LIKE FOR LEGAL ASSISTANCE TOTAL FOR

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DIGITAL MEDIA EVAN AND DISCOVERY, BECAUSE OF ANY RULING FROM THE BOARD OF CRIMINAL APPEALS, WHICH RAISES THE FIREMEN'S FOR WHAT WE PROVIDE AND DISCOVERY AND RAISES THE STAKES FOR FAILING TO DO SO. OUR LEGAL ASSISTANCE ARE STRETCHED TO THEIR MAXIMUM CAPACITY AND WE REALLY NEED TWO NEW ONES TO DEAL WITH THIS. APART FROM THAT, LET ME CHECK MY NOTES WROTE RICK PLEASE. I NEED A LEGAL ASSISTANT TO THE COURT OF APPEALS. WHEN WE HAVE SPACE, I'M GOING TO BE ASKING PEOPLE, ONE OF THEM WILL BE AN EPAULET LAWYER. I WANT THEM TO SUPPLEMENT THE CHIEF WHO NOT ONLY RUNS THE COURT BUT IS RUNNING APPEALS. WE HAVE THE CIVIL DIVISION WITH APPEALS BUT

WE NEED A LEGAL ASSISTANT. >> I KNOW I'VE TALKED TO SOME OF YOU ABOUT MY DESIRE TO GET AN ENVIRONMENTAL DIVISION STARTED. WE HAVE A PLAN FOR THAT. WE KNOW IT'S GOING TO LOOK LIKE. WE'VE IDENTIFIED THE PERSONNEL THAT WE INTEND TO HIRE. AGAIN, I HAVE NO PLACE TO PUT THEM. WE LET THE BUDGET CYCLE RUN BY WITHOUT US FOR ANY POSITIONS. I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR THAT WE NEED THEM. I JUST DID NOT PUT THEM IN THERE BECAUSE EVEN IF YOU GAVE THEM TO ME, I CANNOT USE THEM UNTIL I GET SOME MORE SPACE. THE OTHER LEGAL ASSISTANT IS FOR THE APPLE IT DIVERSION PROGRAM WHICH WE ROLLED OUT IN JANUARY AND HAS BEEN VERY SICK RUSSELL SO FAR AND WE FEEL VERY GOOD ABOUT IT. WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF BEGINNING TO EXPAND IT. BUT THE LAWYER THAT I'VE DEDICATED TO THAT IS ALSO DOING OTHER PROJECTS FOR US. SHE NEEDS A LEGAL ASSISTANT TO BE ABLE TO SUPPLEMENT HER WORK ON DIVERSION. DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT WHAT DIVERSION IS? I WOULD BE REALLY HAPPY TO ASK AND IT READ IT'S A BOON FOR THE CANDY BECAUSE WE ARE TAKING CASES AND DIVERTING THEM AWAY FROM THE COURT ROOMS. THIS MAKES CASES AND HELPS CASES RESOLVE WITHOUT ENCUMBERING THE ENTIRE SYSTEM. THESE ARE AGREEMENTS BETWEEN US AND THE DEFENDANT, WHERE WE FEEL THE DEFENDANT DOES NOT NEED A CONVICTION OR DEFERRED ADJUDICATION OR THE PAPER RESOLUTION FOR THAT BECAUSE THE CONDUCT WAS INNOCUOUS ENOUGH AND UNLIKELY TO RECUR SO WE FEEL WE CAN MAKE A CONTRACTUAL AGREEMENT THAT THEY WILL TAKE A CLASS OR DO SOMETHING OR JUST NOT GET IN TROUBLE FOR A PERIOD OF TIME AND WE LET THE CASE GO.

THEY CAN EXPUNGE IT ON THE RECORD AND THIS HELPS PEOPLE WHO HAVE A SINGLE BRUSH WITH THE LAW, THIS HELPS THEM GET PAST THAT WITHOUT IT EATING A BRAND AND THEREFORE HAD THE REST OF THEIR LIVES. I THINK IT'S A VERY POSITIVE THING, BUT WE DO NEED MORE HELP TO BE ABLE TO DO MORE WITH IT. HOW MANY CASES DO YOU THINK WE HAVE NOW? THAT'S 90 CASES THAT ARE NOT ON THE JUDGE'S DOCKETS. ALMOST ALL MISDEMEANORS, ALMOST ALL NONVIOLENT. HELPFUL TO THE COURTS, US, TO THE COMMUNITY, TO THE PEOPLE WHO HAD THEIR LITTLE BRUSH WITH THE LAW. WE NEED SUPPORT FOR THAT. EXCUSE ME, ONE SECOND, I'M GOING TO TALK TO MY LAWYER. THAT'S PRETTY MUCH THE SCOPE OF WHAT I CAME TO TELL YOU ALL ABOUT. WE DO NEED THESE POSITIONS. IF I HAD SPACE RIGHT NOW, I WOULD ASK FOR THEM. I WOULD COME HERE AND ARGUE FOR THEM. I BELIEVE YOU WOULD HAVE SEEN THE PROPRIETY OF PROVIDING THEM AND WE WOULD BE IN BETTER SHAPE THAN WE ARE. EVERYTHING COMES DOWN TO SPACE. I UNDERSTAND WE ARE IN COMPETITION WITH OTHER COUNTY AGENTS IS FOR SPACE, BUT I NEED TO EMPHASIZE THAT THE DAS OFFICE, THIS IS AN ACUTE NEED AND AT THE RISK OF SOUNDING SELF-IMPORTANT OR ARROGANT, I THINK THIS IS THE MOST ACUTE NEED FOR SPACE THAT WE HAVE IN THE COUNTY. IT IS REALLY INHABITING OUR ABILITY TO GROW AND KEEP PACE WITH GROWTH. DON'T WANT TO HAVE TO

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COME TO HORN, BUT WHEN WE CAME IN, WE WERE ABLE TO REPAIR A LOT OF TROUBLE ALREADY. THE BACKLOG OF 100 86 CASES WAS REDUCED TO 1400, NOW SIMMERING IN THE MID-1000 SHOULD BE AS IT JUST MEANS WE ARE BEHIND ON CASES, DOES NOT MEAN THERE LEFT TO THE SIDE AND WITH THAT BY 4000. THAT'S WHAT WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO DO WITH WHAT WE HAVE HERE I CAN TELL YOU AT ALMOST A FULL COMPLEMENT, I HAVE ONE ATTORNEYS IS LEFT TO FILL. JUST THIS MORNING, A NEW ATTORNEY STARTED WITH US, GOING INTO THE BULLPEN WITH THREE OTHER LAWYERS. THESE GUYS CAN'T HAVE PRIVATE CONVERSATIONS. WE HAVE THE SAME PROBLEM. I ONLY HAVE ONE CHIEF RESIDENT SHE CAN CLOSE TO BE ABLE TO HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH A THICK. IN THE YEAR AND A HALF THAT WE'VE BEEN IN OFFICE, WE HAVE REALLY EMPHASIZED THE NEED FOR VICTIM SERVICES. WE HAVE MADE CHANGES AS TO THE ATTORNEYS WITH REGARD TO THE TERMS. WE REALLY STILL NEED TO FACILITATE THE VICTIM ASSISTANCE COORDINATORS, THEIR ABILITY TO DO THEIR JOBS BY GIVING THEM SPACE FOR THE HAVE THE CONFIDENCE OF THE CONVERSATION. IF YOU HAVE EVER -- VICTIM OF A SEXUAL CRIME, THEY DON'T WANT TO TALK IN A ROOM WITH CUTICLES ALL AROUND.

IT'S A TRAUMATIC THING TO TALK ABOUT AND WE NEED TO MAKE THAT CONVERSATION MORE COMFORTABLE FOR THAT PERSON. ALL OF THESE THINGS ARE DOWN TO OUR NEED FOR SPACE. WHILE WE HAVE NOT ASKED FOR NEW THINGS IN THE BUDGET, I'M ASKING FOR TWICE AS MUCH NEXT YEAR, BECAUSE THE THINGS I'M TALKING ABOUT NOW ARE WHAT WE NEED NOW HERE CAN ANOTHER YEAR, WE WILL NEED MORE. THIS COUNTY WILL NOT STOP GROWING. UNLESS YOU CAN DO SOMETHING ABOUT THAT, MAKE THAT COUNTY STOP GROWING . GET 40,000 PEOPLE TO MOVE AWAY, THEN WE WOULD BE IN GOOD SHAPE, BUT I DON'T THINK THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN. I DON'T THINK THE FLOW IS GOING TO CONTINUE. IT'S A VERY ATTRACTIVE COUNTY, PEOPLE WANT TO LIVE HERE. WANT TO SERVE THOSE PEOPLE WITHOUT MAKING EXCUSES AT THE END OF THE DAY. STARTING THE PROCESS, THANK YOU, SIR. JUST A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS. IF I CAN GET A FULL LIST OF ALL THOSE POSITIONS YOU GAVE WITH A BUDGET IMPACT FOR EACH ONE OF THEM. PRIORITIZATION. IN OTHER WORDS IF YOU HAVE THE ABILITY TO HAVE THIS BASE FOR THREE MORE PEOPLE, WHICH THREE WOULD IT BE? RANK THEM AS TO HOW YOU GO ABOUT IT. THE OTHER THING THAT IS SPECIFIC IS AND I HAVE HAD THIS CONVERSATION WITH EACH OF YOU ALL ON THE ENVIRONMENTAL AND SPENT DIVISION. EVER CONSIDERED IF THE TRUE REASON BEHIND THE NONESTABLISHMENT AT THIS POINT WAS PACIFICALLY SPACED IN A PHYSICAL LOCATION. WHEN YOU HAVE THE CONVERSATION, 95% OF US ARE DIRECTLY RELATED AND WORKING WITH THE DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DEPARTMENT. HAVE YOU THOUGHT ABOUT TALKING TO THEM ABOUT LOOKING TO HAVE THOSE INDIVIDUALS SAYING THAT HE HAS THIS DIVISION AS PART OF THE COURTHOUSE, CO-LOCATED SPECIFICALLY WITH FOLKS WHO ARE DOING ENFORCEMENT AT DEVELOPMENT SERVICES. AND IF THAT COULD BE AN OPTION, WOULD YOU CONSIDER LOOKING AT THAT? DON'T NEED TO HAVE AN ANSWER. JUST ANOTHER THOUGHT TO TRY TO

MOVE THAT I AHEAD. >> WE HAVE HAD THE CONVERSATIONS OVER THE PAST COUPLE OF WEEKS ABOUT LOCATING SOMEWHERE, BUT THE FIRST BECAUSE OF OUR ORIENTATION IS CRIMINAL DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE. THE FIRST LOCATION SITE, WE IMAGINE, WOULD BE WITHIN EITHER THE CONSTABLES OFFICES ARE ONE OF THE POLICE OFFICERS. I FEEL LIKE WIMBERLY WOULD BE THE PLACE TO CITE THE ENVIRONMENTAL DIVISION. THE LAWYER, A LEGAL ASSISTANT AND AN INVESTIGATOR. IT'S A VERY PROACTIVE ROLE. LOOKING TO IMPORT A PROGRAM, NEIGHBORING IN COUNTY CALDWELL. THE TIMING ON IT WOULD HAVE BEEN WHEN I WOULD HAVE ASKED FOR A LAWYER DURING THIS BUDGET CYCLE. WE THINK WE WILL GET A GRANT AND POSSIBLY AN INVESTIGATOR. THE

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MONEY WILL PROBABLY BE FOR THE LAWYER AND THE PICKUP TRUCK UNLESS THE PICKUP TRUCK IS MORE EXPENSIVE THAN THE LEGAL ASSIST AND. WHICHEVER IS LESS EXPENSIVE IS THE ONE THAT WE WILL USE THE GRANT FOR. AN EXCELLENT IDEA. HAVE NOT HEARD YET WHETHER I'M GETTING THAT GRANT. THE BUDGET CYCLE JUST HAPPENED TO COME A MONTH EARLIER THAN I WISH IT HAD FOR THAT PURPOSE. IN TERMS OF PRIORITIZING OFF THE CUFF, THE LEGAL ASSISTANCE ARE PROBABLY THE PRIORITY RIGHT NOW. UNTIL WE GET TO A BETTER FOOTING. I WILL COME TO YOU AND TALK ABOUT IT. WE WILL TALK ABOUT IT THAN. I BELIEVE THAT WILL BE SEPTEMBER. IT'S OUR BUDGET CYCLE THIS TIME AROUND HERE. MY GOAL WOULD BE TO CITE IT BECAUSE IT IS SO CENTRAL AND WILL ALLOW THE INVESTIGATOR ACCESS TO THE COUNTY TO THE FULL COUNT. HOWEVER, ARGUMENTS THAT THEY SHOULD BE ON THE COURT, ANTICIPATING OTHER PROBLEMS. THAT REMAINS TO BE ARRANGED. THAT WOULD BE FOR THE LEGAL ASSISTANT, THE

INVESTIGATOR AND THE LAWYER. >> ANOTHER THAT PRECINCTS ONE AND TWO ARE LOOKING AT ANOTHER FACILITY SOMEWHERE ON THE EAST SIDE. WE'VE BEEN LOOKING AT ONE AND DONE. THEY NEED AN ASSESSMENT. ANOTHER TALKED TO YOU ABOUT PRECINCTS FOR AND SHOULD BE TALKING ABOUT PRECINCT 5 AND THE LOCATIONS THAT THE COMMISSIONERS HAVE TALKED ABOUT. AS YOU ARE LOOKING AT THOSE LOCATIONS, IF YOU HAVE ADDITIONAL INFORMATION FROM WHEN THEY DID COME AND INTERVIEW YOU AND TALK TO YOU, LET US KNOW. WE CAN ASK THEM TO UP DATE THAT AND LOOK AT WHAT THOSE OTHER NEEDS WITH ME. THE ONLY OTHER WESTERN I HAD, I WOULD BE REMISS IF I DID NOT DO THIS ON THE BEHALF OF OUR ATTORNEYS. ANOTHER IS AN OPENING IN THE CIVIL DIVISION.

IT'S BEEN REALLY HARD TO FILL SO SPECIALIZED. IS THERE ANYTHING WE CAN DO IN THE BUDGET PROCESS? I THINK IT IS AN ISSUE WITH FUNDING, FINDING THE RIGHT PERSON, BUT IT MAY NOT BE THE CASE. SINCE IT IS SUCH A SPECIALIZED POSITION THAT YOU ARE TRYING TO HIRE OR, IS THERE SOMETHING THAT ADDITIONAL FUNDS COULD BE PUT TOWARDS? IS THERE SOME OTHER WAY TO HELP THAT ALONG? AS I KNOW THEY ARE DROWNING.

>> IS SPECIALIZED LOT. SORT OF ABANDONING THE ONE THROUGH SIX APPROACH TO PUT THE MONEY ON THE TABLE TO ATTRACT UNIQUE CANDIDATE THAT IS STILL PERSPECTIVE AT THIS POINT OUT OF THE PRIVATE SECTOR. WE HAVE TO TRIPLE OUR SALARY TO GET SOMEBODY TO SAY THAT I WOULD RATHER WORK --

>> TO PUT UP WITH US? I'M SAYING THAT, YOU'RE NOT THING

THAT. >> TO GET THEM TO WALK AWAY FROM THE KIND OF MONEY YOU CAN MAKE IN THE PRIVATE SECTOR.

HONEST TO GOD, I DON'T THINK WE COULD DO THAT MUCH MONEY.

NOT THAT PERSON MONEY IS. I'M READY TO SPEND MONEY TO GET WITH THE COUNTY NEEDS. BUT HERE ARE JUST THINK THE SALARY WOULD BE ASTRONOMICAL COMPARED TO EVERYONE ELSE IN THE COUNTY. I THINK YOU WOULD BE DOUBLING THE HIGHEST SALARIES IN THE COUNTY TO BE ABLE TO ACTUALLY ATTRACT SOMEONE INTO A MARKET SYSTEM.

WE STILL NEED TO FIND A PERSON WHO WANTS TO DO PUBLIC WORK.

AND THAT -- IN THE CRIMINAL WORLD, I MEAN, THERE'S PLENTY.

IN THE CIVIL WORLD, THERE IS JUST A FEW.

>> GREG COX, FIRST ASSISTANT ON THE CRIMINAL SIDE OF THE HOUSE.

THIS QUESTION MIGHT BE BETTER TO THIRD BY JORDAN BUT I WANTED TO CORRECT ONE THING. KELLY SAID WE ARE DOWN TO ONE VACANCY, THAT IS ON THE CRIMINAL SIDE. WE HAVE TWO VACANCIES ON THE CIVIL SIDE OF THE HOUSE WITH LAWYER POSITIONS. THE DEVELOPMENT THAT JUST HAPPENED. THE REQUISITION FOR THE DECISION WAS IMPROVED THIS MORNING. OUR FORMER CIVIL

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CHIEF THAT IS THE REPRESENTATION PART OF THE OFFICE LEFT THE OFFICE WHICH GAVE US A CHIEF LEVEL ATTORNEY SEVEN SPOT AND JORDAN HAS REWORKED THE JOB DESCRIPTION TO BE MORE GLOBAL AS TO THE ENTIRE CIVIL SIDE OF THE DISTRICT AT ERNIE'S OFFICE. THAT POSITION GETS POSTED TODAY. HAVING THAT HIGHER-LEVEL TITLE OF BEING A CIVIL CHIEF IN THE HIGHER PAY THAT COMES ALONG WITH THAT, WE ARE HOPING MIGHT READILY ATTRACT SOME CANDIDATES. WE'VE HAD ATTORNEYS AT FOUR, FIVE AND SIX. POSTED THEM AND HAVE THEM UP FOR A WHILE AND WE ARE JUST NOT GETTING APPLICANTS WE HOPE BY POSTING THE CHIEF LEVEL POSITION WITH THE HIGHER SALARY ON THAT TITLE, WE MAY DRAW IN SOME MORE APPROPRIATE CANDIDATES FOR WHAT'S NEEDED.

I KNOW, I FEEL FOR THEM BECAUSE KELLY MEETS PRETTY REGULARLY AND WE WOULD LOVE TO BE ABLE TO MEET WITH JORDAN JUST AS OFTEN.

CAN'T EVEN GET TIME ON HER CALENDAR TO HAVE MEETINGS WITH HER VERY OFTEN BECAUSE THEY ARE DROWNING ON THE SIDE OF THE HOUSE. I THINK TUCKER IS ABLE TO ATTEST TO THE FACT THAT THEY ARE ALWAYS VERY BUSY. WE'RE HOPING THAT THIS POSITION THAT WAS LITERALLY POSTED TODAY WILL FINALLY CAUSE US TO START GETTING SOME APPLICANTS THAT MIGHT BE IN THE WHEELHOUSE OF

WHAT WE NEED. >> WE WERE TALKING ABOUT YOU.

>> I HEARD MY NAME. >> TURNED TO GET YOU SOMEBODY

IN YOUR OFFICE. >> ALL RIGHT, WELL I'M GLAD THAT TWO PEOPLE ARE HERE WHO CAN CORRECT MY MISTAKE.I'M STILL READY TO FIELD ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS.

>> INKS FOR BRINGING GOOD NEWS ON THE DIVERSION PROGRAM. I APPRECIATE YOU ALL DOING THAT. AND THEN I APPRECIATE YOUR PATIENCE ON THE SPACE. I KNOW IT IS HARD TO WORK AROUND AND FRUSTRATING, BUT I THINK WE ARE ON IT RIGHT NOW, ON A GOOD PATH TO GETTING SOME SOLUTIONS, AND I ENCOURAGE ALL OF US TO BE CREATIVE, AND YOU KNOW, MAKE SURE THAT WE UTILIZE THE SPACE.

AND PROMISED TO PUT SOME WORK INTO THAT TO HELP YOU ALL IN

THE INTERIM. >> THANK YOU.

>> MESSAGE RECEIVED, CLEAR ABOUT SPACE. WE KNOW. WE KNOW.

AND WE ARE ACTIVELY WORKING ON THAT, TRYING TO FIND SOLUTIONS FOR THOSE NEEDS. SOME OF OUR DEPARTMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN ABLE TO EXPAND BECAUSE -- AND IMPROVE THEIR INITIATIVE, IS BECAUSE THEY WERE ABLE TO HAVE THAT SPACE. AND WE KNOW THAT IS KEY. THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.

>> ME I SAY ONE THING ABOUT SPACE? I FEEL THAT WE NEED SPACE WITHIN THE GOVERNMENT CENTER.

>> I AGREE. >> I AM SURE YOU ARE ALL AWARE OF THE TWOFOLD ISSUE WHICH IS THAT THE GOVERNMENT CENTER IS NOT DESIGNATED AS A COURTHOUSE. PEOPLE CAN BRING FIREARMS, AND OPEN CARRY LONG RIFLES INTO THE FIRST FLOOR OF THAT BUILDING.

SINCE WE DO A VERY SENSITIVE PUBLIC BUSINESS THAT TENDS TO EXCITE PEOPLE, THAT IS A HUGE CONCERN. IF WE WOULD BE ABLE TO GET SPACE WITHIN THE GOVERNMENT CENTER AND FIND NEW HOUSING FOR SOME OF THE NONJUDICIAL OFFICERS THAT ARE THERE, THAT WOULD HELP US CREATE A MORE SECURE BUILDING WHILE ALSO ALLOWING US TO CONTINUE TO DEVELOP.

>> I WILL JUST SAY WE ARE WORKING ON THAT FRONT. WITH OUR COMBINED PRECINCT 1 AND TWO OFFICES, HDR HAS ALREADY REACHED OUT TO THE DEPARTMENTS THAT ARE HERE TODAY, SO WE ARE LOOKING FOR SPACE IN OUR BUILDING, SO HOPEFULLY, WE CAN GET THAT ACCOMPLISHED WITH THE WORK THAT COMMISSIONER SHELL IS DOING OVER AT THE GOVERNMENT CENTER. WE ARE WORKING AS FAST

AS WE CAN. >> I VERY MUCH APPRECIATE THAT.

DON'T MEAN TO APPEAR IMPATIENT. I PROBABLY AM IMPATIENT. I DON'T WANT TO APPEAR IMPATIENT. YOU'VE ALL EXPRESSED YOUR SUPPORT FOR THAT NOTION.

>> WE UNDERSTAND THE NEED. ONE OF THE QUESTIONS THAT I HAD, THESE TWO POSITIONS YOU'RE ASKING FOR, BECAUSE WE ARE

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TALKING ABOUT SPACE AND WE ARE OUT OF SPACE, DO YOU HAVE A PLACE TO PUT THESE TWO INDIVIDUALS, THE TWO THAT U.S.

THE NEW LEGAL ASSISTANT AND THE COORDINATOR?

>> I THINK I CAN SHOEHORN THEM INTO SOME SPACE. YOU GUYS HAVE ALL BEEN IN OUR OFFICE. YOU HAVE SEEN THAT THE WALLS HAVE OFFICES WITH DOORS THAT YOU CAN CLOSE IN THE GIANT WELL OF THE OFFICE IS FILLED WITH CUBICLES. ALL BUT ONE OF THEM ARE FULL.

BUT I DO BELIEVE WE COULD SHOEHORN IN BOTH OF THESE LEGAL

ASSISTANCE. >> THANK YOU, THANKS FOR BEING

HERE. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> AND THE ROADMAP IS TO TURN THE BUILDING INTO A JUDICIAL ONLY FACILITY. THAT IS THE ROADMAP, THAT IS THE PLAN, AND WE ARE WORKING AGGRESSIVELY TO ADDRESS THE FIRST PART OF YOUR COMMENT, WITH THE LONG RIFLE STUFF. WE ARE ACTIVELY IN TALKS TO ROADMAP THAT REPAIR. MOST FRONT OF MIND, ON THE FRONT BURNER, IN MOTION, FEET ON THE GROUND ASSESSING AND WORKING ON IT ACTIVELY. WE HEAR YOU LOUD AND CLEAR LIKE THE COMMISSIONERS SAID AND WE ARE AT ONLY WORKING ON IT.

>> I VERY MUCH APPRECIATE THAT FROM YOUR MOUTH TO GOD'S EARS.

VERY HELPFUL, HOPING IT WON'T BE THAT LONG.

>> THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION.

>> THANK YOU. >> I WILL NOW OWES THE WORKSHOP, AND THE WORKSHOP AGENDA ITEM IS DONE.

COMMISSIONER SHELL, I HAVE ON

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.