Nov 07, 2023 Regular

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>> WELCOME. MY FAVORITE THING IN THE MORNING IS.

[A. CALL TO ORDER]

>> LET US BOW. GRACIOUS FATHER, WE THINK YOU GOD FOR ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY TO BE IN THE LAND OF THE LIVING. WE DON'T TAKE IT FOR GRANTED, LORD GOD, WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY WITH EVERY BREATH TO GIVE YOU PRAISE AND WORSHIP AND HONOR.

WE THANK YOU FOR PLACING US IN THE LAND THAT A SAFE AND SECURE. WHERE WE CAN HAVE FREE ELECTIONS TODAY. WHERE WE CAN WALK IN WISDOM AND FREEDOM. THE FREEDOM THAT WAS PURCHASED BY THE LIVES OF THOSE WHO HAVE DIED TO PROTECT US. THEY HAVE BEEN WOUNDED, AND THEY HAVE DONE HEROIC WORK SO WE CAN STAND BEFORE YOU TODAY. AND HONOR YOU. THANK YOU, FATHER, FOR THE OPPORTUNITY FOR THOSE WHO STILL SERVE AND FOR THOSE WHO WILL SERVE ONE DAY. WARLORD, THIS IS THE LAND YOU'VE GIVEN US AND GIVEN US GRACE TO LIVE IN IT. WE LIVE IN DIFFICULT DAYS,LORD . GIVE US WISDOM. GIVE US GRACE.

THAT WE MAKE RIGHTEOUS DECISIONS AND WE MAY LEAD AND SERVE YOUR PEOPLE. IN JESUS'S NAME I PRAY. AMEN.

>> THANK YOU. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA . AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION, UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. HONOR THE TEXAS FLAG. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE, TEXAS. ONE STATE, UNDER GOD. ONE AND

INDIVISIBLE. >> WILL YOU PLEASE CALL THE

ROLE. >> COMMISSIONER SHELL, HERE, COMMISSIONER GONZALES INGALSBE, HERE, COMMISSIONER SMITH, HERE,

[E. PUBLIC COMMENTS]

>> THOSE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO SUBMITTED A PUBLIC PARTICIPATION WITNESS FORM WILL HAVE 2 MINUTES TO SPEAK.

UNFORTUNATELY NO ACTION CAN BE TAKEN BY THE COURT AS WE ARE EXPECTED NOT TO RESPOND. ANY QUESTIONS MIGHT BE TAKEN AS RHETORICAL. ALL COMMENTS ARE THE OPINION OF THE SPEAKER AND ON NOT MEANT TO BE CONSTRUED AS TRUTH. PLEASE KEEP YOUR COMMENTS AND YOUR LANGUAGE CIVIL AND RESPECTFUL. OR YOU WILL FORFEIT THE REMAINDER OF YOUR TIME. IN THE SPIRIT OF RESPECT, PLEASE SILENCE YOUR CELL PHONES. WITH THIS KIND OF AUDIENCE IT IS LIKELY TO HAPPEN. IF YOU HAVE A CELL PHONE, JUST DOUBLE CHECK. OKAY. OUR FIRST PERSON SIGNED UP TO SPEAK IS WILLIAM WAGONER JUNIOR. IF YOU WILL PLEASE APPROACH THE PODIUM WILL HAVE THREE-MINUTE.

>> THANK YOU YOUR HONOR GOOD MORNING COMMISSIONERS. I AM ADDRESSING THIS TO YOU JUDGE AND MR. SMITH IN PARTICULAR A FOLLOW-UP TO MY VISIT A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO ON ONE ITEM IN PARTICULAR REGARDING PUBLIC INFORMATION REQUEST WE SUBMITTED TO THE DEVELOPMENT. BEGINNING AUGUST 2 I SUBMITTED TO PUBLIC INFORMATION REQUEST TO THE COUNTY WEBSITE IN WHICH I CLEARLY REQUESTED ALL CORRESPONDENCE INCLUDING ATTACHMENTS BETWEEN APPLICANTS, DEVELOPERS AND COUNTY STAFF RELATED TO THE PROJECT. ALL NOTES OR MEMOS PREPARED BY COUNTY STAFF ARE RELATED TO THE PROJECT. OTHER THAN THE PERMIT APPLICATIONS AND PERMITS NO OTHER DOCUMENTATION HAS BEEN RECEIVED. CORRESPONDENCE INCLUDE THE CALL I HAVE WITH KAYLA STODDARD ON SEPTEMBER 15. EMAILS TO DEBORAH ANDERSON SEPTEMBER 29, OCTOBER 4, OCTOBER 11 AND OCTOBER 19. ON THE 19TH WE WERE TOLD BY MS. ANDERSON TO RECEIVE A RESPONSE BY OCTOBER 25. THE TARGET WAS MISSED WITHOUT EXPLANATION. ON OCTOBER 26 AS ANDERSON SAID WE WOULD HAVE ALL DOCUMENTS BY LAST FRIDAY, NOVEMBER 3. AS OF THIS MORNING THERE IS STILL BEEN NO RESPONSE OR HEAVILY RECEIVED A DELIVERY DATE OR AS TO WHY THIS LAST DELIVERY DEADLINE WAS MISSED. WE REQUESTED TO BEGIN AUGUST 2 . COMMISSIONER SMITH I AM GOING TO FOLLOW UP WITH YOUR OFFICE IN ABOUT A WEEK TO GET A STATUS

ON WHERE WE MIGHT BE. >> OKAY. I CHECKED LAST WEEK AND I ASSUMED WE GOT EVERYTHING LAST WEEK. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU

HAVESEEN THAT OR NOT . >> I WILL SAY IT IS BURNING UP PART

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DIALOGUE. >> I UNDERSTAND THAT. THANK YOU SIR. OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS MR. DAN LYON.

>> GOOD MORNING JUDGE BECERRA AND COMMISSIONERS. TODAY IS ELECTION DAY. IF YOU WANT ANY CHANCE OF A TAX CUT ON YOUR PROPERTY TAXES YOU NEED TO VOTE FOR PROPOSITION FOUR. YOU NOTICE THE SIGN ON THE DOOR DOWNSTAIRS WHICH SAID THE COUNTY WAS HIRING. I AM THINKING ABOUT APPLYING. I HAVE EXPERIENCE IN PUBLIC SPEAKING. HOWEVER, I MUST ADVISE YOU THAT IF I GET A CHANCE I WILL CUT BAT BY AT LEA HALF. SALARIES WILL BE CHANGED. THE JANITOR SALARY WOULD DOUBLE AND Y'ALL WOULD ACTUALLY BE PAYING THE COUNTY BACK FOR ALL THE BAD DECISIONS YOU HAVE MADE UNTIL YOU PAYIT ALL BACK . LOOK ON THE BRIGHT SIDE. YOU WILL HAVE A JOB FOR LIFE. LET'S LOOK FOR THE DISBURSEMENTS. WE HAVE ONE TO THE JURY PLAZA HOTEL FOR LODGING. THREE PEOPLE AND PARKING FOR TWO OFTHEM . THAT IS $1391.22 FOR TWO PEOPLE FOR ONE NIGHT PRESUMABLY ONE NIGHT. WE AS A COUNTY ARE OVER A HALF BILLION DOLLARSIN DEBT AND YOU PEOPLE CANNOT FIGURE OUT HOW TO REDUCE IT. WE GET 500 PER PIECE TO QANTAS CLUB AND PRIDE SMT ACTS. ALL PRIVATE ORGANIZATIONS. YET, YOU STILL CAN'T FIGURE OUT HOW TO REDUCE THE DEBT. ACCORDING TO A STUDY DONE BY THE HAYES CONSTITUTIONAL REPUBLICANS, HAYS COUNTY HAS THE SECOND-HIGHEST THAT PER CAPITA OF ALL THE COUNTIES IN TEXAS. ENOUGH IS ENOUGH. IF YOU CAN'T REDUCE THE DEBT PLEASE, I PLEAD THE PEOPLE OF HAYS COUNTY, GET SOMEBODY IN HERE WHO CAN . IT IS REALLY NOT THAT HARD.

PEOPLE LIKE ME HAVE TO DO IT EVERY DAY. IF I DON'T HAVE MONEY FOR I DON'T BUY IT. IF I HAVE TO BUY SOMETHING ON CREDIT I PAY IT BACK IMMEDIATELY. WHY DON'T YOU DO THE SAME THING WITHTHE COUNTY MONEY ? BUT, N . NO. TWO WEEKS AGO THERE WAS AN ITEM ON THE DISBURSEMENTS THAT SAID SI MECHANICAL HAD REPLACED SIX HVAC UNITS AT THE JAIL. THE JAIL IS ONLY FOUR YEARS OLD. AND YET WE ARE REPLACING HVAC UNITS AND NOBODY THOUGHT THAT MAYBE WE SHOULD HAVE GOTTEN A GUARANTEE ON THOSE HVAC UNITS PLUS SI MECHANICAL DID A THERMO DUCT REBUILD AND ORIGINALLY THEY CHARGED US 3000 MORE AND THEN THEY WENT UP ANOTHER 6000 TOTAL OVER 10,000. WHERE DOES IT END? WHERE DOES IT END? I AM SO FRUSTRATED WITH COMING UP HERE WEEK AFTER WEEK, YEAR AFTER YEAR AND STILL, YOU DO NOTHING BUT SPEND. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> THANK YOU. THE NEXT SPEAKER IS LAUREN FLOYD.

>> GOOD MORNING. I AM HERE REPRESENTING POWELL'S. I AM ACTUALLY HERE TO THANK YOU GUYS FOR THE FUNDING WE JUST RECEIVED. I WANTED TO PERSONALLY THANK ALL OF THE COMMISSIONERS FORCING THE PURPOSE IN OUR ORGANIZATION IN HELPING THE COMMUNITY OF FAITH COUNTY THEIR ANIMALS SPAYED AND NEUTERED. AND WE WERE ALSO VERY TOUCHED AND WANTED TO PERSONALLY THANK COMMISSIONER: EXCLUSIVELY AND COMMISSIONER SHELL FOR PUTTING IN THE EXTRA THAT IS GOING TO PUSH US OVER THE EDGE TO BE ABLE TO REACH OUT EVEN MORE TO YOUR DISTRICTS. I JUST WANTED TO COME BACK AND PLEDGE AGAIN THAT YOU WILL BE SEEING POWELL'S MORE IN YOUR COMMUNITY. AND I

AM HERE TO THANK YOU. >> BEAUTIFUL WELL DONE AND THAT CONCLUDES OUR PORTION OF PUBLIC COMMENTS AND NOW WE WILL GO ON TO PRESENTATIONS AND PROCLAMATIONS BUT BEFORE WE START THERE WOULD LIKE TOKNOW IF SOMEONE HAS SHOWN UP FOR F FIVE . I HAVE BEEN ASKED TO PULL IT. IS ANYONE HERE FOR F

[F.1. Adopt a Proclamation declaring November 7, 2023 as Lieutenant Colonel George C. Carruthers Day and recognize Lt. Col. Carruthers for his recent 100th Birthday and selection for the French Legion of Honor. SHELL]

? PLEASE OPEN F1. >> ADOPT A PROCLAMATION DECLARING NOVEMBER 7, 2023 AS LIEUTENANT COLONEL GEORGE C.

CARRUTHERS DAY AND RECOGNIZE LT. COL. CARRUTHERS FOR HIS RECENT 100TH BIRTHDAY AND SELECTION FOR THE FRENCH LEGION

OF HONOR. >> SECOND. >> BEAUTIFUL. IF

YOU WOULD PLEASE READ IT. >> WHEREAS LIEUTENANT COLONEL

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CARRUTHERS, SURVIVED AND WERE SENT TO STALAG LUFT III AS PRISONERS OF WAR, WHILE SEVEN CREW MEMBERS LOST THEIR LIVES THAT DAY, FOUR OF WHICH ARE BURIED AT THE EPINAL AMERICAN CEMETERY OVERLOOKING THE MOSELLE RIVER IN NORTHEASTERN FRANCE, AND WHEREAS, INLATE JANUARY 1945, WITH THE SOVIET RED ARMY NEARING THE CAMP, THE GERMANS ORDERED THE EVACUATION OF STALAG LUFT III, LT. COL.

CARRUTHERS AND NEARLY 10,000 OTHER POWS WERE FORCED TO MARCH IN THE BITTER COLD AND SNOW FOR A DISTANCE OF 46 MILES AND WERE EVENTUALLY SENT TO THE OVERCROWDED STALAG VII A POW CAMP, AND WHEREAS, ON THE MORNING OF APRIL 29, 1945, ELEMENTS OF PATTON'S 3RD ARMY ATTACKED THE SS TROOPS GUARDING STALAG VII A, LIBERATING THE CAMP AND FREEING THE POW?S, AND WHEREAS, ON MAY 8, 2010, THE 65TH ANNIVERSARY OF VICTORY IN EUROPE, THE CITY OF LIEUSAINT DEDICATED A MEMORIAL TO THE CREW OF THE WINDY CITY CHALLENGER, LT. COL. CARRUTHERS IS NOW THE LAST LIVING SURVIVOR OF THE CREW, AND WHEREAS, AFTER THE WAR, LT.

COL. CARRUTHERS WAS ASSIGNED TO VARIOUS BOMB WINGS, FLYING B-29, B-50, AND B-47 BOMBERS, INCLUDING A ONE YEAR TOUR IN VIETNAM WHERE HE FLEW OVER 100 COMBAT MISSIONS IN THE 361ST TACTICAL ELECTRONIC WARFARE SQUADRON, AFTER SERVING AS STAFF NAVIGATOR ON C-141S FOR THE 60TH MILITARY AIRLIFT WING, LT. COL.

CARRUTHERS RETIRED FROM THE UNITED STATES AIR FORCE ON NOVEMBER 1,1972 AFTER 30 YEARS OF SERVICE, AND WHEREAS, DURING HIS MILITARY CAREER HE WAS AWARDED VARIOUS MEDALS AND RIBBONS, INCLUDING THE DISTINGUISHED FLYING CROSS, PURPLE HEART MEDAL, AIR MEDAL WITH 5 OAK LEAF CLUSTERS, AND THE PRISONER OF WAR MEDAL, AND WHEREAS, IN 2023, LT. COL. CARRUTHERS CELEBRATED HIS 100TH BIRTHDAY AND WAS SELECTED FOR THE FRENCH LEGION OF HONOR, THE HIGHEST LEVEL OF RECOGNITION AWARDED BY THE FRENCH GOVERNMENT FOR HIS SERVICE TO FRANCE DURING WWII; NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED THAT THE HAYS COUNTY COMMISSIONERS COURT DOES HEREBY PROCLAIM NOVEMBER 7, 2023 AS LIEUTENANT COLONEL GEORGE C. CARRUTHERS DAY ADOPTED THIS THE 7 TH DAY OF NOVEMBER 2023 RUBEN BECERRA HAYS COUNTY JUDGE ÓÓÓÓÓÓÓÓÓÓÓÓÓÓÓÓÓÓÓÓÓÓÓÓÓÓÓÓÓÓ ÓÓÓÓÓ

>> WHAT A MAGNIFICENT STORY! [APPLAUSE] WOW! THAT WAS BEAUTIFULLY WRITTEN. BEFORE WE GO ON, PLEASE CALL ROLL.

>> COMMISSIONER SHELL, YES, COMMISSIONER SMITH, YES, COMMISSIONER GUTIERREZ COHEN, YES, COMMISSIONER GONZALES INGALSBE, YES, JUDGE BECERRA, YES.

>> MICHELLE? THANK YOU JUDGE.

>> I WROTE THE PROCLAMATION AND IT TOOK ME SOME TIME TO

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>> WELL DONE. COMMISSIONER SMITH?

>> I WANT TO THANK YOU AGAIN OR YOUR SERVICE. IT IS SAD EVERY DAY TO KNOW THAT THERE ARE FEWER AND FEWER WORLD WAR II THAT. MY DAD SERVED MANY YEARS. WHEN I WAS BORN. ONE AT THE BATTLE OF THE BULGE. WE LOST HIM 20 YEARS AGO THIS YEAR. THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE AND KNOW THAT IT IS CERTAINLY APPRECIATED AND THINK OUR COUNTRY IS MISSING A GREAT NUMBER OF STATESMEN AND STATES WOMEN. WE APPRECIATE YOU.

>> COMMISSIONER GONZALES INGALSBE?

>> THANK YOU JUDGE. I WAS REALLY MOVED BYYOUR WORDS . I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU ALSO. I WAS SAYING I WAS REALLY MOVED BY THE WORDS THAT WERE READ AND I WANT TO SAY YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR SERVICE. I AM SO HONORED TO KNOW YOU AND YOUR FAMILY AND I THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE AND WE SO APPRECIATE YOUR PRESENCE

HERE TODAY, SO THANK YOU. >> COMMISSIONER GUTIERREZ

COHEN? >> THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE AND COMMISSIONER SHELL FOR THIS RECOGNITION. WHAT A REMARKABLE

LIFE. CONGRATULATIONS. >> I AM SO HONORED TO BE A PART OF THIS COURT ON THIS MAGNIFICENT DAY THAT ONLY COMES ONCE IN A LIFETIME. 100 YEARS IS A GIFT HOWEVER YOU HAVE LIVED IT. THE MORE WE ARE REMINDED OF THE DEDICATED LIFE THAT YOU HAVE CLEARLY CAPTURED IN THIS PROCLAMATION, YOU HAVE CLEARLYLED . IT HELPS US, I FEEL IT HELPS ME, FOR SURE, TO REMIND US ALL OF MY LAPEL PIN. WE ARE AMERICANS AND WE HAVE TO FIND THOSE FACES WHERE WE ARE ON THE SAME TEAM AND UNITED AND WORKING TOGETHER. AFTER ALL THAT IS WHAT MADE THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. THERE IS NO WORLD. I CANNOT FIND IN EXISTENCE AN ANGLE, AN OPPORTUNITY, TO CALL SOMEWHERE ELSE BETTER. THIS IS THE GREATEST NATION AND IN GREAT PART IN BECAUSE OF WHAT YOU HAVE DONE. SO THANK YOU FOR ALL YOU'VE DONE AND ALL YOU DO AND IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK AT THE PODIUM, ANYONE IN THE FAMILY, I WOULDBE SO GRATEFUL .

>> ROB CARRUTHERS THE SON OF GEORGE CARRUTHERS AND I WANT TO THANK COMMISSIONER SHELL AND THE ENTIRE COMMISSIONERS COURT FOR RECOGNIZING MY FATHER AND HIS SERVICE. BUT EVEN MORE IMPORTANTLY THAN THAT WE HAVE VETERANS DAY ON THIS SATURDAY WE HAVE A VETERANS DAYPARADE . I WANT TO ENCOURAGE EVERYBODY TO COME OUT TO THAT PARADE AND THANK A VETERAN FOR WHATTHEY HAVE DONE . IT IS AN INCREDIBLE SACRIFICE THAT NOT ONLY OUR AND AND WOMEN IN UNIFORM MAKE BUT ALSO THEIR FAMILIES. SO, PLEASE, ENCOURAGE YOUR FRIENDS. COME ON OUT FOR VETERANS DAY AND SUPPORT OUR VETERANS. THANK

YOU. >> BEAUTIFUL. COMMISSIONER

SHELL. >> WOULD YOU LIKE TO TAKE A PICTURE? WE CAN COME RIGHT OUT HERE.

>> WELL DONE. THANK YOU.

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>> AS COURT CONTINUES TO PROGRESS I HAVE ALSO BEEN ASKED TO PULL I SEVEN. IS ANYONE HERE FOR I7 IT IS CUSTOMARY TO LET YOU SPEAK EVEN THOUGH WE PULLED IT. OKAY. IF YOU WILL

[F.2. Adopt a Proclamation declaring November 5 - 11, 2023 as Dr. Elvin Holt Week in Hays County. INGALSBE]

PLEASE OPEN F2. >> ADOPT A PROCLAMATION DECLARING NOVEMBER 5 THROUGH 11TH, 2023 AS DOCTOR ELVIN HOLT

WEEK IN HAYS COUNTY. >> SECOND.

>> PLEASE READ IT. >> WHEREAS, DOCTOR ELVIN HOLT WAS BORN ON SEPTEMBER 25, 1945, IN BAY CITY, TEXAS, WHERE HE SPENT HIS CHILDHOOD, GRADUATING FROM HILLIARD HIGH SCHOOL IN 1964. ALWAYS A FIRM BELIEVER IN EDUCATION, HE EARNED A BACHELOR OF ARTS IN ENGLISH FROM PRAIRIE VIEW A&M UNIVERSITY, A MASTER OF ARTS IN ENGLISH FROM SOUTHWEST TEXAS STATE UNIVERSITY AND A PH.D.

FROM THE UNIVERSITY OF KENTUCKY IN LEXINGTON; AND WHEREAS, DOCTOR HOLT JOINED THE FACULTY AT SOUTHWEST TEXAS STATE UNIVERSITY IN 1983 AND BECAME THE FIRST TENURED AFRICAN AMERICAN PROFESSOR IN THE DEPARTMENT OF ENGLISH. HIS LIFE?S WORK FOCUSED ON AFRICAN AMERICAN LITERATURE, FOLKLORE AND CULTURAL STUDIES. HE WAS AWARDED THREE FELLOWSHIPS BY THE NATIONAL ENDOWMENT FOR THE HUMANITIES AND WAS NAMED PROFESSOR OF THE YEAR BY THE ASSOCIATION OF BLACK STUDENTS IN 1989; AND WHEREAS, DOCTOR HOLT CO-AUTHORED AND EDITED (WITH HIS COLLEAGUE DOCTOR SANDRA MAYO) ACTING UP AND GETTING DOWN: PLAYS BY AFRICAN AMERICAN TEXANS (2014), AND STAGES OF STRUGGLE AND CELEBRATION: A PRODUCTION HISTORY OF BLACK THEATRE IN TEXAS (2016); AND WHEREAS, DOCTOR HOLT RETIRED FROM TEXAS STATE UNIVERSITY IN 2020 AND WAS HONORED BY THE UNIVERSITY IN 2021, CELEBRATING HIS WORK IN MULTICULTURAL CURRICULUM DEVELOPMENT BY NAMING A STREET ELVIN HOLT DRIVE AT ITS ROUND ROCK CAMPUS; AND WHEREAS, DOCTOR HOLT IS RECOGNIZED FOR HIS CONTRIBUTIONS TO THE LITERARY WORLD, HE IS EQUALLY WELL KNOWN FOR HIS PASSION AND ENCYCLOPEDIC KNOWLEDGE OF AFRICAN AMERICAN HISTORY; AND WHEREAS DOCTOR HOLT WAS A MEMBER OF THE HERITAGE ASSOCIATION OF SAN MARCOS, THE SAN MARCOS HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION, THE HAYS COUNTY HISTORICAL COMMISSION, THE LBJ-MLK CROSSROADS MEMORIAL COMMITTEE AND THE SAN MARCOS SESQUICENTENNIAL COMMISSION; AND WHEREAS, A DEVOUT MAN OF GOD, DOCTOR HOLT SERVED FOR SEVERAL YEARS AS A SUNDAY SCHOOL TEACHER AND BROTHERHOOD PRESIDENT FOR FIRSTAPTIST CHURCH (NBC). HE SERVED AS THE SECRETARY FOR THE PRIDE OF SAN MARCOS LODGE NO. 494 PHA FOR MORE THAN 30 YEARS; AND WHEREAS, DOCTOR HOLT WAS A CO-FOUNDER OF THE CALABOOSE AFRICAN AMERICAN HISTORY MUSEUM AND SERVED ON THE BOARD SINCE ITS INCEPTION IN 1997. HE WAS THE LONGEST SERVING PRESIDENT OF THE CALABOOSE BOARD OF DIRECTORS AND HAD AN EXTENSIVE KNOWLEDGE OF THE PEOPLE, HISTORY AND CULTURE OF THE DUNBAR HISTORIC NEIGHBORHOOD; AND WHEREAS, DOCTOR HOLT PASSED FROM THIS LIFE INTO GLORY ON SEPTEMBER 16, 2023. A MEMORIAL SERVICE CELEBRATING HIS LIFE WAS ORGANIZED BY HIS FAMILY AND FRIENDS IN BAY CITY, TEXAS, HIS BIRTHPLACE, WHERE HE WAS LAID TO REST ON SEPTEMBER 30, 2023; AND WHEREAS, A MEMORIAL HONORING

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NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED THAT THE HAYS COUNTY COMMISSIONERS COURT DOES HEREBY PROCLAIM NOVEMBER 5 - 11, 2023 AS: ?DR. ELVIN HOLT WEEK IN HAYS COUNTY? AND ENCOURAGE ITS RESIDENTS TO CELEBRATE HIS ACCOMPLISHMENTS AND EMULATE HIS EXAMPLE.

ADOPTED THIS THE 7 TH DAY OF NOVEMBER 2023

>> BEAUTIFUL. >> PLEASE CALL ROLL.

>> COMMISSIONER GUTIERREZ COHEN, YES, COMMISSIONER SMITH, YES, COMMISSIONER GONZALES INGALSBE, YES, COMMISSIONER SHELL, YES, JUDGE BECERRA, YES. COMMISSIONER?

>> WE HAVE SEVERAL PEOPLE HERE WHO MIGHT WANT TO SPEAK. WHAT A WONDERFUL DAY TO BE RECOGNIZING SUCH WONDERFUL PEOPLE FOR THE MEMBERS OF OUR COMMUNITY AND DOCTOR HOLT IS ONE OF THOSE THAT BELIEVED IN EDUCATION, WAS A PUBLIC SERVANT AND DID SO MUCH FOR OUR COMMUNITY. I AM SO HAPPY TO SPONSOR THIS PROCLAMATION RECOGNIZING DOCTOR HOLT AND JUDGE IF WE WOULD JUST FOR COMMENTS WE COULD INVITE ANYONE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK OF THIS PROCLAMATION.

>> ANOTHER REMARKABLE LIFE. IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU DID REALLY GREAT WORK IN THE COMMUNITY. AND I HOPE ONE DAY TO DO THE WORK HE DID BUT THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER FOR BRINGING THIS

PROCLAMATION FORWARD . >> COMMISSIONER SHELL?

>> IT'S REALLY SPECIAL DAY WHEN WE GET TO HONOR INDIVIDUALS AND SOMEONE WHO HAS MADE AN IMPACT ON THE COMMUNITY SO I FEEL FOR HIS FAMILY AND I WISH I WOULD HAVE KNOWN HIM AFTERREADING THE STORY ABOUT HIM. I WISH HIS FAMILY THE

BEST . >> I WANT TO SAY IT'S ALWAYS AMAZING TO SEE ONLY THE INDIVIDUALS WHO TRUST THE COMMUNITY BUT TO KNOW THAT THEIR FAMILY HAS ALSO STAYED ENGAGED IN THE COMMUNITY. I THINK THEY CREATE A LEVEL OF SERVICE AND DEDICATION WITHIN THEIR FAMILY THAT TRULY CARRIES GENERAL RELATIONAL HE AND THE IMPACT HAS BEEN FELT AND I

APPRECIATE THEFAMILY . >> IT IS WHAT MAKES OUR COMMITTEE HOME, ABSOLUTELY. IT TAKES US FROM ANY TOWN USA TO OUR HOMETOWN AND I AM ECHOING WHAT THE COMMISSIONERS SAID AND I AGREE 100 PERCENT AND IF ANYONE WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK PLEASE APPROACH THE PODIUM. PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.

>> MY NAME IS REMAKE ADAMS A MEMBER OF THE AFRICAN-AMERICAN HISTORY MUSEUM AND I WANT TO THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR HOPE IN SUCH A WONDERFUL WAY. THE TRUTH IS THE WORD ON THE PAPER DOES NOT EMBODY THE TOTALITY OF WHO DOCTOR HOPE WAS. WE CAN BE HERE UNTIL NEXT WEEK TO TALK ABOUT THE ACCOLADES AND THE CONTRIBUTIONS AND EVERYTHING THAT WAS DONE. ONE OF THE THINGS I WOULD LIKE TO MENTION MORE THAN ANYTHING THAT WAS NOT PUT ON THE PAPER WS DOCTOR HOLT WAS A TRUE FRIEND TO EVERYONE. HE DID NOT MEET ANYONE HE COULD NOT ENGAGE WITH OR DIDN'T WANT TO EDUCATE AND UPLIFT. I THINK YOU ALL FOR HONORING HIM AND ON BEHALF OF THE AFRICAN-AMERICAN HISTORY MUSEUM WE APPRECIATE EVERYTHING WE ARE DOING.

>> IF YOU WILL COME UP ANYONE WHO WANTS TO BE A PART OF THE PICTURE PLEASE COME UP TO THE DAIS SO WE CAN TAKE A GROUP

PICTURE. >> F3. ADOPT A PROCLAMATION

[F.3. Adopt a Proclamation declaring November 2023 as Turkeys Tackling Hunger Month. BECERRA]

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>> SO MOVED. >> SECOND.

>> WHEREAS, HAYS COUNTY FOOD BANK REPRESENTS A COUNTY-WIDE EFFORT TO PROVIDE ADEQUATE ACCESS TO NUTRITIOUS FOOD TO LOW-INCOME HOUSEHOLDS AND THOSE WHO FIND THEMSELVES IN A FOOD EMERGENCY; AND WHEREAS, IN 2022, HAYS COUNTY FOOD BANK PROVIDED MORE THAN 1,500 MEAL BOXES FILLED WITH A URKEY AND TRADITIONAL HOLIDAY FOODS THAT HOUSEHOLDS IN NEED COULD PREPARE IN THE COMFORTS OF THEIR OWN HOME; AND WHEREAS, HAYS COUNTY FOOD BANK HAS OFFICIALLY LAUNCHED ITS 17TH ANNUAL TURKEYS TACKLING HUNGER CAMPAIGN IN AN EFFORT TO RAISE FUNDS FOR THIS SPECIAL HOLIDAY MEAL PROGRAM; AND WHEREAS, CITIZENS OF THIS GREAT COUNTY CAN SPONSOR A FAMILY FOR THANKSGIVING FOR JUST $30; AND WHEREAS, HAYS COUNTY WISHES TO DEMONSTRATE OUR SUPPORT AND COMMITMENT TO THE IMPORTANT WORK HAYS COUNTY FOOD BANK DOES THROUGHOUT THE YEAR ENSURING THAT NOBODY GOES HUNGRY REGARDLESS OF INCOME LEVEL; NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED THAT HAYS COUNTY COMMISSIONERS COURT DOES HEREBY PROCLAIM THE MONTH OF NOVEMBER 2023 AS TURKEYS TACKLING HUNGER MONTH AND CALL UPON THE PEOPLE OF HAYS COUNTY TO PLEDGE TO SUPPORT AND PARTICIPATE IN THIS PROGRAM BY HELPING TO PROVIDE FAMILIES AND INDIVIDUALS IN NEED THROUGHOUT HAYS COUNTY WITH THE FOOD TO PREPARE A TRADITIONAL HOLIDAY MEAL AT HOME.

ADOPTED THIS THE 7TH DAY OF NOVEMBER 2023.

>> COMMISSIONER GONZALES INGALSBE, YES, COMMISSIONER GUTIERREZ COHEN, YES, COMMISSIONER SHELL, YES, COMMISSIONER SMITH, YES, JUDGE BECERRA, YES.

>> I WOULD LIKE TO THANK THE FOOD BANK AND ALL THAT THEY DO TO HELP OUR COMMUNITY. THERE ARE PEOPLES AND FAMILIES THAT FIND THEMSELVES IN THE SITUATION THAT WE NEVER THINK CAN BE IN. THEY FILL THAT GAP AND I REALLY AM APPRECIATIVE OF ALL THE WORK THEY DO. I WANT TO THANK YOU.

>> AND SOMEONE WHO IS ON THE BOARD IT HAS BEEN A REAL HONOR FOR ME TO WATCH THE WORK BEING DONE BEHIND THE SCENES AND ALL THAT GOES INTO THAT. I DEFINITELY UNDERSTAND THE FOOD INSECURITY AND THE TRUE NEED THAT IS OUT THERE AND BEING ABLE TO REACH THE RURAL AREAS OF THE COMMUNITY HAS BEEN FANTASTIC FOR ME TO WATCH. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE WORK YOU DO AND HOWEVER THE CLERK CAN CONTINUE TO SUPPORT YOUR EFFORTS WE WANT TO CONTINUE TO DO THAT AS WELL AND BE ABLE TO REACH AS MANY FAMILIES AS WE CAN. SO THANK YOU SO MUCH.

>> I WANT TO THANK ALL THE BOARD MEMBERS FOR THEIR SERVICE AND I WAS HOPING WE WOULD GET TO SEE COMMISSIONER JONES IN

THE TURKEY OUTFIT. >> THAT'S RIGHT. YOU HAVE BIG

CLAWS TO FILL. >> I WILL PUBLICLY STATE NOW IF THERE NEEDS TO BE A NEW COSTUME PURCHASED I WILLGLADLY DO THAT FOR YOU COMMISSIONER SHOULD YOU WANT TO TAKE HIS

ROLE IN IT . >> THANK YOU TO THE BOARD AND NOT ONLY THE BOARD BUT UTTERLY DOZENS OF VOLUNTEERS. NOT ONLY WITH THE FOOD BANK BUT WITH THEIR PARTNER ORGANIZATIONS THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY THEY REALLY DO A GREAT JOB . I CANNOT WAIT UNTIL YOU HAVE THAT LARGER FACILITY AND THE ABILITY TO HELP EVEN MORE PEOPLE. SO THANK YOU.

>> AS THE FASTEST GROWING COUNTY IN THE NATION WE HAVE LOTS OF REASONS TO CELEBRATE AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IS ONE OF THE THINGS I AM GRATEFUL TO BE A PART OF. THANK YOU COMMISSIONER. I JUST JOINED THE PARTNERSHIP BOARD AND THE REASON I BRING ALL OF THAT UP IS BECAUSE JOBS ARE THE FOUNDATION OF EVERYTHING ELSE THAT SPRINGS TO FEED OUR FAMILIES. I AM DOING I TINY LITTLE PIECE TO HELP THIS STRONG GROWING COUNTY FASTEST GROWING COUNTY IN THE NATION .[APPLAUSE] [CHEERING] THANK YOU. WE HAVE A VERY SPECIAL

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>> HI THERE I NAME IS IRIS AND I AM THE DEVELOPMANAGER AT THE HAYS COUNTY FOOD BANK . I WANT TO THANK YOU GUYS FOR GIVING US THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK ON THE GREAT NEED OF OUR COMMUNITY. I HAVE BEEN AT THE FOOD BANK THREE YEARS NOW AND I HAVE SEEN OVER A 200 PERCENT INCREASE IN OUR CLIENT DISTRIBUTIONS. FOR AN EXAMPLE WE HAVE OUR MONDAY DISTRIBUTION HERE IN MARCUS AND WE SAW THREE AND 40 HOUSEHOLDS COME IN DURING A 2 HOUR PERIOD.

WE ALL KNOW WHAT IT'S LIKE TO GO TO THE GROCERY STORE THESE DAYS IT'S WAY MORE EXPENSIVE THAN WE'VE EVER SEEN IN THE PAST AND YOU CAN ONLY IMAGINE HOW THAT IMPACTS FAMILIES THAT ARE ALREADY STRUGGLING ON A DAY-TO-DAY BASIS. YOUR SUPPORT IS NEEDED MORE THAN EVER. WE HAVE OUR TURKEY HUNGRY DISTRIBUTIONS NEXTWEEK AND ON MONDAY, NOVEMBER 13 WE WILL BE AT THE BOBCAT STADIUM . WE ARE SHORT 30 TO 40 VOLUNTEERS SO IF YOU HAVE A COUPLE OF HOURS AND YOU WANT TO BRING YOUR FAMILY OUT AND GET THAT FEELING OF BEING THE REASON SOMEONE GETS A WARM MEAL THIS THANKSGIVING WE WOULD LOVE TO SEE YOU AND LET OUR BOARD MEMBERS SAY A FEW WORDS.

>> GOOD MORNING AND THANK YOU FOR HAVING US AND THANK YOU FOR THE RECOGNITION. I STARTED AS AVOLUNTEER. I AM ON THE BOARD NOW BUT I STARTED AS A VOLUNTEER GIVING OUT FOOD .

THE LEVEL OF APPRECIATION TO THE PEOPLE I NEED FOOD TOO IS SO STRONG AND IT FILLED MY HEART. I THOUGHT WELL MAYBE I CAN DOSOMETHING ELSE AND JOINING THE BOARD HAS BEEN THE BEST THING I COULD'VE DONE . I'VE BEEN ON THE BOARD FOR COUPLE OF YEARS AND I'VE SEEN PROGRESS THAT ISAMAZING. I TRIED TO RECOGNIZE VOLUNTEERS AS MUCHAS I CAN . THANK YOU SO

MUCH FOR THIS RECOGNITION . >> WONDERFUL. DO WE HAVE A

GOBBLER COMMENT? >> WHATEVER IT IS TO DONATE.

I THINK DANIEL WILL AGREE THIS IS THE FIRST TIME I WAS IN THE COURTROOM THAT I WAS DRESSED APPROPRIATELY.[LAUGHTER] WE WANT TO THANK YOU. ESPECIALLY COMMISSIONER GUTIERREZ COHEN SHE REPRESENTS US ON THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS. THANK YOU FOR BEING A BIG SUPPORT OF THE FOOD BANK AND HOPEFULLY IN A FEW YEARS YOU CAN SEE A BRAND-NEW BUILDING AND YOU WOULD GET YOUR BUILDING BACK. THANK YOU FOR YOUR SUPPORT WE REALLY

APPRECIATE THIS RECOGNITION. >> COME UP ANYONE WHO IS INTERESTED IN BEING A PART OF THIS PICK YOUR COME ON UP.

[APPLAUSE] >> NOW WE ARE UP TO OUR LAST

[F.4. Adopt a Proclamation declaring November 13-19, 2023 as Global Entrepreneurship Week 2023, a week of inclusion through international collaboration and mentorship. BECERRA]

PROCLAMATION. THESE OPEN F4. >> ADOPTED PROCLAMATION DECLARING NOVEMBER 13-19, 2023 AS GLOBAL ENTREPRENEURSHIP WEEK 2023, A WEEK OF INCLUSION THROUGH INTERNATIONAL

COLLABORATION AND MENTORSHIP . >> SECOND .

>> PLEASE READ. WHEREAS, GLOBAL.

>> ENTREPRENEURSHIP WEEK (GEW) IS THE WORLD'S LARGEST CELEBRATION OF THE INNOVATORS AND JOB CREATORS WHO LAUNCH STARTUPS TO BETTER OUR WORLD; AND WHEREAS, INTERNATIONAL COLLABORATION AND MENTORSHIP ARE VITAL TO NURTURING AN INCLUSIVE ENTREPRENEURIAL ECOSYSTEM WHERE INDIVIDUALS OF ALL BACKGROUNDS CAN EXPLORE NEW IDEAS, SEIZE OPPORTUNITIES, AND ACT TO CREATE POSITIVE CHANGE; AND WHEREAS, SPLASH COWORKING ALONGSIDE THE RIPARIUS FOUNDATION AND THE INTERNATIONAL STRATEGIC MOVEMENT RECOGNIZE THAT EXPOSURE TO DIVERSE CULTURES, PERSPECTIVES, AND EXPERIENCES ENRICHES US ALL AND INSPIRES CREATIVE THINKING; AND WHEREAS, INCLUSIVE COMMUNITIES THAT WELCOME ENTREPRENEURS OF ALL ORIGINS ARE BETTER

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ADOPTED THIS THE 7TH DAY OF NOVEMBER 2023.

>> WELL DONE. PLEASE CALL ROLL.

>> COMMISSIONER GONZALES INGALSBE, YES, COMMISSIONER SHELL, YES, COMMISSIONER SMITH, YES, COMMISSIONER GUTIERREZ COHEN, YES, JUDGE BECERRA, YES. COMMISSIONERS ANY COMMENTS?

>> COMMISSIONER GONZALES INGALSBE?

>> I WOULD LIKE TO THANK THOSE HERE TODAY FOR THIS PROCLAMATION. I REALLY APPRECIATE ALL THE WORK YOU HAVE DONE TO REALLY BRING SPLASH TO A PLACE WHERE IT IS TODAY. I KNOW IT HAS GROWN SO MUCH. I KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE WHOGO THERE . NETWORK AND REALLY APPRECIATE THE PARTNERSHIP THAT YOU HAVE CREATED WITH SO MANY OF THE COMMUNITY. SO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ALL THE WORK YOU HAVE

DONE. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU JUDGE FOR BRINGING THIS PROCLAMATION. I AM DEFINITELY IN AGREEMENT WITH THE COLLABORATION AND INCLUSIVENESS ACROSS ALL PLATFORMS. THIS IS A WONDERFUL THING. AND YOU SO MUCH FOR

DOING THE WORK YOU DO. >> COMMISSIONER SHELL?

>> I ECHO WHAT MY COLLEAGUES SAID AND I APPRECIATE THOSE OUT THERE THAT ARE WILLING TO TAKE RISKS IN MAKING OUR COMMITTEE BETTER AND CREATE JOBS IN THE PROCESS SO EVERYBODY CAN HAVE CONNECTED LIVES. IAPPRECIATE THAT WE WORK TOWARDS THE

EFFORTS . >> I USED DRIPPING SPRINGS AS AN EXAMPLE. WHEN WE MOVED THERE WE HAD OVER 200 MEMBERS IN THE CHAMBER AND WE HAVE HAD 800 IN THE LAST 8 TO 10 YEARS AND THAT'S A SIGN THAT ENTREPRENEURSHIP IS ALIVE AND WELL IN THE COUNTY. I HOPE WE CAN CONTINUE TO ENCOURAGE IT BECAUSE WE ARE SEEING IT WITH THE GROWTH OF POPULATION. WE CAN SEE A NUMBER OF AMAZING PEOPLE WITH AMAZING IDEAS AND AMAZING CONCEPTS TO COME HERE. I WANT TO HELP AS MUCH AS WE

CAN TO MAKE IT SUCCESSFUL. >> IT'S A NO-BRAINER TO ME.

KARINA I'VE KNOWN YOU FOR DECADES. AND IT IS A REAL TREAT TO BE ON THE SIDE OF COMMUNITY FIRST AND IT IS THROUGH LIKE I WAS SAYING IN THE PREVIOUS PROCLAMATION IT IS THROUGH EMPLOYMENT AND THE ENTREPRENEURIAL SPIRIT IS THE BACKBONE OF OUR AMERICAN WAY. WE ALL HAVE PROSPERITY AND WE ARE LITERALLY THE FASTEST GROWING COUNTY IN THE NATION.

I AM PROUD TO SAY IT AND THAT'S WHY I SAY IT SO DARN OFTEN.

WOULD YOU LIKE TO APPROACH THE PODIUM AND SAY A FEW WORDS?

>> THANK YOU COMMISSIONERS COURT TODAY. AND ALL THE DAYS THAT YOU SUPPORT ENTREPRENEURSHIP AND THE STIMULATION OF OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ARE THE LOCAL PEOPLE THAT ARE HERE IN HAYS COUNTY. I DO WANT TO READ A QUOTE IN THE WORDS FROM OUR PARTNERS OF ISM THAT WAS HONORED ON THE PROCLAMATION. I HAD THE HONOR THIS PAST SEPTEMBER TO BE IN AUSTRALIA AS A REPRESENTATIVE OF OUR STATE AS A DELEGATE FOR THE GLOBAL ENTREPRENEURSHIP CONGRESS.

THIS WAS A PRODUCT OF A RELATIONSHIP THAT WAS DEVELOPED IN SAUDI ARABIA LAST YEAR WHEN THE GLOBAL ENTREPRENEURSHIP CONGRESS WAS HOSTED THERE. THERE WAS OVER 112 DIFFERENT NATIONS THAT CAME TOGETHER AND WE WERE ABLE TO CONNECT WITH MANY OF THOSE INCLUDING THOSE THAT ARE IN DETROIT THAT ARE REPRESENTED WITH THE ISM. BEAR PASSED ON IT IS AN HONOR FOR ME TO HAVE THIS PARTNERSHIP. WITH A GREAT SUCCESS WITHPREVIOUS DELEGATIONS BEING HOSTED BY OUR PARTNERS OF SAN MARCO'S IN HAYS COUNTY . WE LOOK FORWARD TO EXPANDING OUR NETWORK AND BRINGING GLOBAL LEADERS AND O FRONT DOORS ALONG WITH ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT GROUPS TO THE US SPECIFICALLY WITH THE HAYS COUNTY AREA. WE ARE HONORED TO HAVE THIS PARTNERSHIP AND LOOK TO MAKE A GLOBAL IMPACT IN THE LOCAL COMMUNITIES THAT WE WORK WITH. THANK YOU HAYS COUNTY AND COMMISSIONERS FOR BEING

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>> BEAUTIFUL WELL DONE AND THANK YOU FOR ALL THE WORK IN THIS COMMUNITY. ANYONE INTERESTED IN BEING A PART OF THIS PICTURE PLEASE APPROACH HERE.

>> IT IS CUSTOMARY FOR US TO MOVE AGENDA ITEMS AROUND TO ACCOMMODATE THOSE ELECTED OFFICIALS ANDDEPARTMENT HEADS THAT ARE HERE . I AM GOING TO GO AND GO INTO K5, K-6 AND K7.

I HAVE ALSO BEEN ASKED TO PULL G 21. SO, WE WILL NOT COVER G 21. IS THERE ANYONE HERE FOR G 21? PLEASE OPEN K5.

[K.5. Discussion and possible action to approve the creation, bylaws, and structure for the Hays County Judicial Services Board, restructure the Pretrial Services Department as the Judicial Services Department, and appoint Commissioner Cohen to replace Commissioner Shell as a non-voting member on the Hays County Judicial Services Board. SHELL]

>> K5 YOUR DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO APPROVE THE CREATION BYLAWS AND STRUCTURE TO THE HAYS COUNTY JUDICIAL SERVICES BOARD RESTRUCTURE AND PRETRIAL SERVICES DEPARTMENT AS A JUDICIAL SERVICES DEPARTMENT AND APPOINT COMMISSIONER GUTIERREZ COHEN TO REPLACE COMMISSIONER SHELL AS A NONVOTING MEMBER ON THE HAYS COUNTY JUDICIAL SERVICES BOARD.

>> THE MOST. >> SECOND.

>> COMMISSIONER? >> THINK YOU JUDGE. A LITTLE BACKGROUND INTO PRETRIAL SERVICES. WE DO SUBCOMMITTEE THAT STARTED WORKING ON IDEAS FOR SOME EFFORTS AT THE COUNTY COULD UNDERTAKE AS WE WERE LOOKING AT THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM. SEVERAL OF THOSE FOLKS ARE NO LONGER WITH THE COUNTY BUT THEIR WORK WAS VERY MUCH APPRECIATED AND IT LED INTO THIS COURT CREATING THE POSITION OF A PRETRIAL SERVICES DIRECT TO HER AND EVENTUALLY OTHER SERVICES WITHIN THE DEPARTMENT AND FUNDING PROGRAMS PREVIOUSLY WE WOULD CALL IT PRETRIAL SERVICES AND IT WAS HANDLED THROUGH ADULT PROBATION AND THE COUNTY HAD MULTIPLE OFFICERS HANDLING PRETRIAL FOR US. AS WE HAVE CONTINUED TO WORK THROUGH THIS WE HAVE DEVELOPED WHAT I BELIEVE IS A VERY ROBUST SYSTEM THAT IS GOING TO MAKE MANY IMPROVEMENTS TO OUR CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM ESPECIALLY PROVIDE SOME EFFICIENCIES THAT OTHERWISE WE WERE NOT ABLE TO DO. WE FINALLY HAVE RESOURCE PUT TO IT

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TAKE . >> BEAUTIFUL. WELL, WHAT DIRECTION WOULD YOU LIKE TO PURSUE OTHERWISE I HAVE A QUESTION OR A COMMENT ABOUT IT. DOES SOMEONE WANT TO SPEAK? I KNOW WE HAVE THE LAYERED REPRESENTATION HERE. YOU CAN SPEAK OR I CAN SAY MY TINY PIECE. OKAY, I WILL GO FIRST IN THE SAKE OF EFFICIENCY AND YOU CAN THINK ABOUT COMING UP TO THE PODIUM IF YOU WISH. THE OPPORTUNITY I HAD TO REVIEW THIS WAS GOOD. AND I ASKED OUR DAS OFFICE TO ENSURE THAT THIS DOCUMENT THAT YOU HAVE SIGNED DOES NOT GIVE THE ILLUSION BECAUSE AS YOU SAID, COMMISSIONER SHELL THERE IS NO USURPING THE COMMISSIONERS COURT. I WANT TO MAKE SURE NO ONE HAS THE ILLUSION THAT THEY WILL NOT BE ACCOUNTABLE TO THE COURT BECAUSE THAT WILL BE USEFUL. WE DON'T NEED HEADBUTTING OR COUNTERPRODUCTIVE ENERGY. THE WORD YOU USED EXACTLY, COMMISSIONER SHELL, EFFICIENCIES AND I AGREE 100 PERCENT. THIS NEWLY CREATED BODY OF MODERNIZING OUR JUDICIAL SYSTEM DESERVES EFFICIENCIES AND I AM ALL ABOUT THAT 100 PERCENT FROM HOW CAN WE HELP YOU GET A PHONE TO A CHAIR TO AN OFFICE SPACE DO WHATEVER YOU NEED, WE ARE HERE TO HELP AND THAT IS OUR JOB AS COURT . I WANT TO MAKE SURE FOLKS DON'T UNDERSTAND BECAUSE ANOTHER THING YOU SAID COMMISSIONER SHALL IS RIGHT ON POINT AGAIN. FUNDING, BUDGETARY OPERATIONAL AND AGAIN DESK, CHAIRS AND STAFFING. THAT IS THIS COURT'S RESPONSIBILITY IT IS OUR DUTY. NOT THE JUDICIAL SIDE OF PROGRAMS AND WHEN TO IMPLEMENT PROGRAMS. THAT IS BETWEEN, THAT IS IN THE JUDICIAL SPACE WHERE THAT HAPPENS TO FLOW AND NEVER DO I WANT SOMEONE TO MISUNDERSTAND ANY INTENT FROM MINE TO MAKE SURE WE KEEP OUR HANDS ON THIS AS ANYTHING OTHER THAN TO MAKE SURE WE STAY INFORMED AND WE STAY IN THE LOOP BUT NEVER DO I WANT ANYONE TO THINK THAT I EM TRYING TO STEP INTO THE JUDICIAL THOUGHT PROCESS. THAT IS NOT MY LANE AND I KNOW IT WELL AND I'M CLEAR ABOUT THAT. IT IS IMPORTANT THAT WE CONTINUE ON THE SAKE OF THE SPIRIT OF EFFICIENCIES TO HAVE REGULAR COMMUNICATIONS AND SO WITH THAT I AM WONDERING ABOUT THE NONVOTINGCOURT MEMBERS IF YOU COULD SPEAK ON THE THOUGHT PROCESS BEHIND THAT . ASK YES.

FOR ONE, ALL OF THE ACTIVITIES OF THE DEPARTMENT ARE REALLY INVOLVED TO THE JUDICIARY. THE JUDGES HAVE TO APPROVE ANY TYPE

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IT IS THERE CALL. HIS CALL IS TO PUT TOGETHER THE BEST PROGRAM AND IDEAS THROUGH COMMUNICATION WITH THE JUDGES BUT ULTIMATELY IF THE JUDGES SAY NO IT DOESN'T HAPPEN. IF THE JUDGES SAY YES IT CAN HAPPEN. THINK IT'S BEST TO TRULY HAVE THAT ULTIMATE OVERSIGHT. ALTHOUGH I DO BELIEVE OTHER MEMBERS ARE NECESSARY TO BE PART OF THE DISCUSSION IN THE INPUT ESPECIALLY IN COMMISSIONERS COURT KNOWING THERE A BUDGETARY IMPLEMENTATION SO WE ARE IN THE LOOP OF WHY THOSE DECISIONS ARE BEING MADE OR THOSE REQUESTS ARE BEING MADE AND THEY ARE ABLE AS A COLLECTIVE BODY TO MAKE THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE COURT AND WE KNOW ALL FACETS OF CRIMINAL JUSTICE HAVE BEEN COMMUNICATED WITH AND ARE IN AGREEMENT THAT THIS IS THE BEST WAY TO MOVE FORWARD. I DO BELIEVE FROM A DIRECT SUPERVISORY ROLE IN THOSE OFFICERS AND WHAT THEY DO BEST IS HELD WITHIN THE JUDICIARY AND I BELIEVE THAT THEY WILL WORK TOGETHER TO MAKE SURE THAT WHAT THEY SEE IS BEST FOR THEIR COURT CASES AND DEFENDANTS IN THEIR COURT WILL BE CARRIED OUT BY THE DEPARTMENTS. I KNOW THEY WILL WORK CORR FOR POLICIE AND PROCEDURES. AND THE COMMISSIONER COURT PRESENT STUDENTS CAN BE THERE TO UNDERSTAND EXACTLY WHAT THEY ARE AND HOW WE BEST FIT IN THOSE AND FACILITATE THAT EFFICIENCY THAT WE ARE HOPING

TO CREATE . >> MOST DEFINITELY AND YOU AND COMMISSIONER GONZALES INGALSBE HAVE DONE A MAGNIFICENT JOB HELPING TO ACCELERATE MODERNIZATION NEEDS OF OUR JUDICIAL SYSTEM. I AM GENUINELY OPEN HERE AND NOW AND FOREVERMORE GOING TO GIVE YOU GUYS CREDIT REMOVING THIS GOVERNMENT FORWARD IN A WAY THAT IS MEANINGFUL AND MEASURABLE. I THINK YOU BOTH FOR DOING THAT AND I'M

GENERALLY GRATEFUL. >> I APPRECIATE THAT JUDGE AND I APPRECIATE COMMISSIONER GONZALES INGALSBE IN THIS. SHE HAS ALL THE YEARS OF EXPERIENCE AND HAS SEEN THE GROWTH AND HAS THE FORESIGHT TO LEAD THESE ISSUES. I'M GRATEFUL FOR. AND ALSO OUR JUDGES. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT HAS RAMPED UP FAIRLY QUICKLY AND SOMETHING THAT I POINTED OUT IN OUR LAST MEETING THERE'S NOT MANY THINGS THAT GET CREATED IN THE COUNTY THIS QUICKLY WITH THE NUMBER OF RESOURCES BUT WE UNDERSTAND IT AND WE UNDERSTAND WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE AND IF WE DON'T WE DON'T START TAKING THESE EFFICIENCIES IS GOING TO BE VERY COSTLY FOR OUR TAXPAYERS. I THINK THE JUDGE HAS BEEN REALLY GREAT TO SORT OF EMBRACE THIS AND WORK ALONGSIDE RANDY AND HIS TEAM TO FIND WAYS TO CONTINUE TO IMPROVE AND THEY HAVE BEEN VERY OPEN MINDED AND DOING THE BEST AGAIN. AND ALSO KEEPING IN MIND THAT THEY HAVE TO BE VERY RESPONSIBLE FOR THE DECISIONS THEY MAKE AND I THINK THEY HAVE BEEN VERY THOUGHTFUL ABOUT THAT. I KNOW THE DEPARTMENT WILL BE VERY SUCCESSFUL AS IT MOVES FORWARD AND IT SHOULD BE SOMETHING WE ARE ALL PROUD OF THAT WE PUT THIS TOGETHER AND WE WILL CONTINUE TO GROW AND SERVE THE COUNTY AND HOPEFULLY CONTINUE TO IMPROVE HOW WE PROVIDE CRIMINAL JUSTICE.

>> RIGHT ON. COMMISSIONER GONZALES INGALSBE I THINK WE OWE IT TO YOU TO BE NEXT ON THE COMMENT.

>> THINK YOU JUDGE AND I TOTALLY SUPPORT THIS AGENDA ITEM AND I WANT TO THANK EVERYONE WHO HAS BEEN INVOLVED.

I KNOW THAT RANDY HAS DONE A FANTASTIC JOB RINGING OUR EXPERIENCE AND JUDGE MORE I APPRECIATE THE LEADERSHIP AND RINGING THIS COMMITTEE TOGETHER AND THE THINGS YOU HAVE DONE TO IMPLEMENT SO MANY I DON'T KNOW, JUST TO MOVE THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE AND ALL OF THIS THAT WE HAVE BEEN WORKING TOWARDS FORWARD. YOU HAVE DONE A FANTASTIC JOB AND I APPRECIATE ALL THE WORK YOU HAVE PUT INTO IT. THERE HAVE BEEN SO MANY OTHERS INVOLVED AS COMMISSIONER SHELL STATED THE JUDGES HAVE BEEN ON BOARD AND SHARING AND THANK YOU FOR THE LEADERSHIP AND I AGREE IT'S GOING TO BRING EFFICIENCIES AND STREAMLINE THE PROCESS AND PROVIDE MUCH-NEEDED SERVICES THAT HAVE NOT BEEN PROVIDED FOR IN THE PAST. SO WE TALK A LOT ABOUT THE CONTINUUM OF SERVICES AND THE NEED TO MAKE IT HAPPEN. IT'S NOT JUST THE REPRESENTATION AN GOING TO COURT . IT IS ALSO COMING, FIGURING OUT WHAT IS THE CORE REASON THAT SOMEBODY IS IN THE SITUATION AND THEN PROVIDINGTHOSE SERVICES TO HELP THEM STAY OUT OF THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM . I JUST APPRECIATE ALL THE WORK THAT HAS BEENDONE SO THANK YOU.

>> WONDERFUL. AND I WANT TO THANK COMMISSIONER GUTIERREZ

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COMMISSIONER GUTIERREZ COHEN DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD?

>> I WANT TO THANK COMMISSIONERSHELL FOR THE NOMINATIONS TODAY AND I LOOK FORWARD TO SERVING ON THE BOARD

. >> COMMISSIONER SMITH?

>> I KNOW THERE HAVE BEEN A LOT OF THANK YOU'S AND HOURS GOING INTO THIS AND A LOT OF INK USED TODAY BUT I WANT TO THANK MY COLLEAGUES TODAY. I SAY THAT BECAUSE FIVE YEARS AGO JUDGE WHEN WE GOT ON COMMISSIONERS COURT I THINK THEY HAD SOMEWHAT THE OUTLINE OF THE VISION ON WHAT COULD BE DONE HERE. THE PATH TO GET THERE WAS ONE THEY HAD TO MAP OUT THEMSELVES AND I APPRECIATE THE DIVISION OF COMMISSIONER SHELL. I KNOW SOME OF THE HOURS OF NEGOTIATION AND CONVERSATION THAT YOU HAD WITH NOT ONLY THE JUDICIARY BUT ALL OF THOSE INVOLVED TO GET TO THIS POINT AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT ACCOMPLISHMENTS WHENEVER YOU ARE OUT OF THIS OFFICE YOU WANT TO LOOK AT AND SAY THIS IS SOMETHING I AM PROUD OF BUT I WOULD TELL YOU I AM PROUD OF YOU FOR BEING ABLE TO DELIVER THIS BECAUSE I KNOW IT HAS BEEN A LARGE AND LONG EFFORT.

>> RIGHT ON. >> JUDGE I WANTED TO MENTION JUDGE STEELE BECAUSE HE WAS A HUGE PROPONENT OF THIS IDEA WHEN I HAD BEEN WITH THE COUNTY FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS. WE WEREN'T DOING ANYTHING ON PRETRIAL LEVEL AND JUDGE STEELE REALLY SUPPORTED DOING THAT AND HE WAS A BIG PROPONENT FOCUSING ON PRETRIAL IN THE CREATION OF IT. I DON'T THINK HE COULD BE HERE TODAY BUT I WANTED TO RECOGNIZE HIM BECAUSE IT GOES BACK OVER 10 YEARS OF US LOOKING AT THIS IDEA AND WHERE IT HAS EVOLVED TO WHERE IT IS. AND JUDGE IF THERE'S NOTHING FURTHER I WOULD LIKE TO MAKEA MOTION AND I BELIEVE THE BUDGET OFFICER WILL PROBABLY HAVE SOME WORK TO DO AS WE THIS INTO THE BUDGET . IT IS FUNDED RIGHT NOW WITH OUR ARPA FUND AND IT HAS ITS OWN LINE ITEM. WE CAN MAKE SOME COMMENTS IF SHE BELIEVES IT NECESSARY TO CHANGE THAT INTO OUR BUDGET AND IN ITS OWN LINE WITHIN ONE OF THE COURTS.

>> BEFORE WE GO THERE WE HAVE AN ASSORTMENT OF JUDGES IN THE HOUSE AND I WOULD LIKE TO GIVE THEM AN OPPORTUNITY FROM WE HAVE ONE MORE ASSORTMENT ONE MOREOVER, SORRY BEN. WE HAVE AN ASSORTMENT OF JUDGES AND IF ANYONE WOULD LIKE TO APPROACH THE PODIUM AND SPEAK YOUR MIND ON THIS AUTUMN AND GIVE US YOUR

APPRECTHOUGHTS. >> I WANT TO THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH FOR DOING THIS. I WAS THE DA FOR EIGHT YEARS AND WE TRY TO DO THIS WHEN I WAS A DISTRICT ATTORNEY AND IT WENT NOWHERE. I AM SUPER APPRECIATIVE OF THE PO. I DID CRIMINAL DEFENSE WORK BEFORE I BECAME A DISTRICT JUDGE AND I TOLD PEOPLE IT WAS EASIER TO FIND PEOPLE AND GET THEM OUT OF JAIL IN TRAVIS COUNTY THAN IT WAS IN HAYS COUNTY. THERE WAS NOTHING YOU COULD DO ON THE WEEKENDS AND WE HAVE TRANSFORM THE SYSTEM WITH OUR MAGISTRATE SHINS, THE PDO AND NOW RETRIAL SERVICES AND I CAN ASSURE THE COURT WE UNDERSTAND OUR ROLE IN SUPERVISING THE DAY-TO-DAY OPERATIONS OF THE SERVICE.

BUT, WE ARE INDEBTED TO THE COURT FOR LISTENING TO US AND FUNDING THIS PROJECT. WE WENT ON A PERCENT IF ANY OF YOU UP THE PHONE AND YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME I AM THERE TO ANSWER ANYTHING AND TAKE ADVICE IF YOU HAVE IT TO GIVE. MY MAIN FOCUS ON PRETRIAL SERVICES IS WHEN I WAS A DA PEOPLE WOULD SIT IN JAIL FOR WEEKS WITHOUT A LAWYER, THEY WERE JUST FALLING THROUGH THE CRACKS. RANDY AND I HAVE HAD A LOT OF CONVERSATIONS ABOUT YOUR NUMBER 1 GOAL IS TO GET INTO THE JAIL, INTERVIEW PEOPLE AND PEOPLE TO QUALIFY FOR PR BONDS NEED TUTEN OUT OF THE JAIL SO THE COUNTY IS NOT SPENDING HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDSDOLLARS PEOPLE PEOPLE CUSTODY THAT SHOULD NOT BE THERE. I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU SO MUCH ON BEHALF OF THE DISTRICT COURT AND THE JUDGE HE WAS SORRY HE COULD NOT BE HERE.

HE WAS VERY INVOLVED IN GETTING THIS EFFORT GOING SO THANK YOU.

>> THINK YOU JUDGE AND YOU AND IHAVE ALWAYS HAD AN OPEN LINE OF COMMUNICATION AND I THANK YOU FOR THAT . MUCH MORE WOULD

YOU LIKE TO SAY ANYTHING? >> NONE AT THIS TIME.

>> OKAY JUDGES ON THIS SIDE JEW LIKE TO ADD ANYTHING? YOU DON'T HAVE TO BUT IT IS OPEN T YOU .

>> I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU AL . MY NAME IS JUDGE BROWN. AND

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AND THIS DEPARTMENT HAS BEEN EXTREMELY HELPFUL. IN THAT REGARD. AS COMMISSIONER SHELL SAID IN THE INTEREST OF BEING EFFICIENT AND USING FUNDS WELL. IT CAN BE A REAL ADVANTAGE TO HAVE THEM AS PART OF OUR RESOURCES THAT WE CAN USE IN

THE CRIMINAL COURT AS WELL. SO THANK YOU. >> MOST PERFECT.

THANK YOU. LAST CALL ON COMMENTS. WE ARE DONE. VICKI?

>> GOOD MORNING. YOU DORSETT AND AS COMMISSIONER SHELL MENTIONED THIS IS FULLY FUNDED BY THE ARPAFUND THE AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN ACT THROUGH THE U.S. TREASURY FUNDING . ONCE THOSE ARPA FUNDS ARE DEPLETED WE DO ANTICIPATE THE PROGRAM WILL BE FULLY FUNDED THROUGH THE END OF THIS FISCAL YEAR SEPTEMBER 2024. WE CAN REVISIT THE ARPA BUDGET DURING OUR UPCOMING BUDGET CYCLE. ONCE THOSE FUNDS ARE FULLY EXHAUSTED THEN WE WILL MOVE THE PROGRAM UNDER THE COURT AND CREATE A DIVISION AND WE WILL NEED TO BUDGETTHOSE UNDER THE GENERAL

FUND . >> PERFECT. AND I BELIEVE I WAS WITH THE DA YESTERDAY AND I BELIEVE WITH THE WAY THIS JUDICIAL SYSTEM HAS BEEN WORKING AND JUDGE MORE AGAIN THE MAGISTRATE IS STRAIGHT IN YOUR SPACE. THE MAGISTRATE AND HAS BEEN MAGNIFICENTLY MOVING EFFICIENTLY AND I WILL SAY THAT I BELIEVE WITH THE SAVINGS ALONE FROM THE EFFICIENCIES OF OUTSOURCING WE WILL FUND THIS DEPARTMENT EFFORTLESSLY BECAUSE THAT IS THE AGGRESSIVE AND MAGNIFICENT PACE AT WHICH WE ARE MODERNIZING OUR JUDICIAL SYSTEM HERE IN HAYS COUNTY. I WANT THE WORLD TO SCREAM ABOUT IT FROM THE MOUNTAINTOPS BECAUSE THESE ARE SIGNIFICANT THINGS YOU ARE ALL DOING AND I APPRECIATE ALL OF YOU FOR. COMMISSIONER SHELL ANYTHING ELSE BEFORE THE MOTION? I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CREATION AND BYLAWS FOR THE NEW STRUCTURE OF THE HAYS COUNTY JUDICIAL SERVICES BOARD PREVIOUSLY CALLED THE PRETRIALSERVICES DEPARTMENT . AND TO PLACE THE NEW JUDICIAL SERVICES DEPARTMENT UNDERNEATH THE COURTS TO BE SUPERVISED ALONG WITH THE HAYS COUNTY JUDICIAL SERVICES BOARD AND THE NEWLY APPROVED BYLAWS AND ALSO TO APPOINT COMMISSIONER GUTIERREZ COHEN TO REPLACE COMMISSIONER SHELL AS A NONVOTING MEMBER OF THE HAYS COUNTY JUDICIAL SERVICES BOARD WITH OUR OTHER MEMBER BEING COMMISSIONERS.

>> SECOND. >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECONDIF THERE'S NO OTHER COMMENTS PLEASE CALL ROLL .

>> COMMISSIONER GUTIERREZ COHEN, YES, COMMISSIONGUTIERREZ COHEN COMMISSONER GONZALES INGALSBE, YES, COMMISSIONER

[K.6. Discussion and possible action to authorize the County Judge to execute the Hays County American Rescue Plan Recovery Grant Agreement with Blanco River Regional Recovery Team (BR3T) regarding a Rental/Utility Assistance Program for Hays County Citizens; including Project and Case Management as well as establishing a part-time temporary position for the Auditor's Office and amend the budget accordingly, and authorize a discretionary exemption pursuant to Texas Local Government Code 262.024(A)(4) Personnel or professional services. INGALSBE/COHEN/SHELL]

PLEASE OPEN K-6. >> DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO AUTHORIZE THE COUNTY JUDGE TO EXECUTE THE HAYS COUNTY AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN RECOVERY GRANT AGREEMENT WITH LANCO RIVER REGIONAL RECOVERY TEAM (BR3T) REGARDING A RENTAL/UTILITY ASSISTANCE PROGRAM FOR HAYS COUNTY CITIZENS; INCLUDING PROJECT AND CASE MANAGEMENT AS WELL AS ESTABLISHING A PART-TIME TEMPORARY POSITION FOR THE AUDITOR'S OFFICE AND AMEND THE BUDGET ACCORDINGLY, AND AUTHORIZE A DISCRETIONARY EXEMPTION PURSUANT TO TEXAS LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE 262.024(A)(4) PERSONNEL OR

PROFESSIONALSERVICES. >> SECOND .

>> I WILL LET ERIC START. >> ALL YOURS IF YOU WOULD PUT YOUR NAME AND TITLE OUT FOR THE PUBLIC THAT WOULD BE GREAT .

>> ERIC OWNING PROJECT MANAGER WITH OUR DURHAM. WE HAVE BEEN THE PROT MANAGERS THROUGHOUT FU I JUST WANT TO NOTE THAT THIS WILL PROBABLY BE THE FINAL PROJECT NECESSARY OF THIS TYPE OF PRESENTATION. I JUST WANTED TO THANK THE COURT. IT HAS BEEN A PLEASURE TO WORK WITH YOU ALL WHETHER IT BE COUNTYWIDE INDIVIDUAL PRECINCTS OR THE CHECKS AND BALANCES THAT ARE IN PLACE. I HAVE WORKED WITH A LOT OF DIFFERENT COMMUNITIES ON THIS PARTICULAR FUND OVER THE PAST TWO YEARS.

AND IT HAS BEEN A PLEASURE TO SEE HOW YOU ALL HAVE TAKEN THE EFFORT AND THE PROCESS AND PROCEDURES TO REALLY USE THIS MONEY EFFECTIVELY AND EFFICIENTLY. I WANTED TO THANK YOU AND LET YOU KNOW THAT YOU ALL SHOULD BE PROUD OF

YOURSELVES. >> WE ARE PROUD OF THE WORK

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THAT YOU HAVE DONE. >> JUDGE I WANTED TO THANK ERIC ALSO. FOR ME HE HAS BEEN A WEALTH OF KNOWLEDGE AND HAS JUST DONE A GREAT JOB. I BELIEVE FOR HAYS COUNTY. SO THANK YOU SO MUCH AND WE APPRECIATE YOUR SERVICE. BUT JUDGE FIRST OF ALL I WANTED TO THANK COMMISSIONER: AND COMMISSIONER SHELL FOR THEIR PARTICIPATION AND CONTRIBUTING THE ABOVE FUNDS TO THE PROGRAM. THIS IS A COUNTYWIDE ISSUE AND I APPRECIATE ALL OF THEIR PARTICIPATION AND WE STILL HAVE A LARGE NUMBER OF FAMILIES AND INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE STRUGGLING WITH HOUSING INSECURITIES AND FOR ME I THINK THE INTENT IS TO PROVIDE THE FINANCIAL SUPPORT IN ORDER TO PREVENT HOMELESSNESS. AND SO, WE DON'T WANT THAT TO HAPPEN. I AM HOPING WE CAN BRIDGE THAT GAP WITH FINANCIAL SUPPORT TO GET THEM BACK ON THEIR FEET AND THE BR 3T WE HAVE PARTNERED WITH THEM IN THE PAST AND THEY ARE CURRENTLY WORKING WITH THE CITY OF SAN MARCUS IN MANAGING THEIR PROGRAM AND I THOUGHT IT WAS A GREAT FIT TO HAVE THEM MANAGE THIS PROGRAM AND REALLY LOOKING FORWARD TO ALL OF THE PEOPLE THAT WILL BE ABLE TO HELP AND

GET OUT OF THE SITUATION. >> RIGHT ON. COMMISSIONER

GUTIERREZ COHEN? >> I WOULD LIKE TO THANK COMMISSIONER GONZALES INGALSBE FOR SPEARHEADING THIS. IT IS NOT THE TO NAVIGATE ANY RESOURCES LIKE THIS IN HAYS COUNTY UNFORTUNATELY AND YOU KNOW, I HAVE HELP QUITE A FEW FAMILIES TO DO THAT AND IT IS NOT EASY. FOR US TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE THIS KIND OF SERVICE FROM THE COUNTY IS AMAZING AND I DEFINITELY LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING HOW MANY FAMILIES WE CAN HELP. AND JUST SEEING THE RESULTS OF THAT WORK. THANK YOU COMMISSIONER FOR DOING THAT AND COMMISSIONER SHELL FOR CONTRIBUTING. MY PEACE IS AT LARGE BUT I WAS WILLING TO GIVE WHATEVER I COULD TO HELP SUPPORT THE EFFORT. AND ALSO I WANT TO THANK YOU ERIC FOR YOUR WORK WITH ME AS A NEWLY ELECTED COMMISSIONER AND UNDERSTANDING THE SYSTEM AND THE WHOLE GUIDANCE THAT YOU GAVE ME OUT THE YEAR. I APPRECIATE THAT.

>> COMMISSIONER SHELL? >> I WOULD LIKE TO THINK COMMISSIONER GUTIERREZ COHEN AND COMMISSIONER GONZALES INGALSBE FURTHER WORK ON THIS. HE IS A BIG DEAL AND I APPRECIATE THEIR COMMITMENT TO THIS IN THE COMMUNITY AND ERIC DID A TERMINUS JOB MANAGING THE PROGRA. HE HAS BEEN THERE ON ALL POINTS SO I APPRECIATE YOU.

>> GO ALL THE WAY, COMMISSIONER SMITH?

>> I WANT TO THANK MY COLLEAGUES FOR TAKING THE LEAD ON THIS. INITIALLY I WAS NOT IN FAVOR OF PUTTING ANY FUNDING ADDITIONAL FUNDING TOWARDS THIS EFFORT AND I SAY THAT NOT BECAUSE THERE IS NOT NEED BUT THE WAY THAT THE PREVIOUS PROGRAM ENDED AND THE MATURATION OF THAT PROGRAM AND I WILL SAY THE SAVING OF THAT PROGRAM BY BRINGING FOLKS LIKE ERIC IN AND THE WORK THAT OUR COUNTYWIDEOPERATIONS OFFICE HAD TO DO TO ENSURE THAT THE PROGRAM WORKED AND FUNCTIONED .

SEEING THE STRUCTURE OF IT AND HOW YOU ALL DECIDED TO STRUCTURE IT I WOULD BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO MATCH MY ARPA TO COMMISSIONER SCHELL'S CONTRIBUTION TO INCREASE IT BY $5000. AGAIN, AS WE HAVE LOOKED AT THIS, I DON'T DISAGREE THAT THERE IS A NEED. BUT THE FUNCTIONALITY OF THE PROGRAM IS WHAT IS IMPORTANT TO ME. AND I REALLY HAD DOUBT OVER THE FUNCTIONALITY OFTHE PROGRAM . I WILL SAY THAT I THINK THERE MAY HAVE BEEN A LITTLE BIT OF PUSHBACK WHEN I OFFERED THE RESOLUTION TO GO OUT WITH THE RFP ON THE ADMINISTRATION OF THE OVERALL ARPA FUND AND I DON'T THINK WE COULD HAVE DONE ANY BETTER THAN WE DID. I CAN'T EXPRESS ENOUGH GRATITUDE TO HER JUROR AND THE WORK THEY HAVE DONE IN MY PRECINCT AND COUNTYWIDE. THEY HAVE LITERALLY GONE ABOVE AND BEYOND TRACKING PEOPLE DOWN AND ENSURING THAT THINGS WERE DONE THE RIGHT WAY AND I THINK IT WILL PAY OFF IN SPADES IN THE FUTURE WHENEVER I DON'T KNOW IF YOU ARE AWARE BUT THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE HAS HALF BILLION DOLLARSFOR ENFORCEMENT THAT HAS BEEN DEDICATED TO LOOKING AT THOSE ARPA FUNDS AND HOW THEY WERE SPENT AND DOING AUDITS OF IT. THE BACKGROUND DOCUMENTATION THAT ARTURO WAS ABLE TO PLACE WITH THE EXPENDITURES UNDER ARPA I THINK WILL SAVE US A WHOLE LOT MORE MONEY THEN IT NEVER COST. I JUST APPRECIATE YOU ALL AND ALL THE WORK THAT YOU DID AND SPECIFICALLY WORKING WITH MY CONSTITUENTS. IT WAS A PLEASURE TO WORK WITH A GROUP

THAT DID THE KIND OF OUTREACH THAT YOU ALL DID. >> WELL DONE. VICKI CAPTURED THE CONTRIBUTION?

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>> YES SIR AND FOR CLARIFICATION THE CONTRACT IN THE BACK IS FOR 960,000 FOUR BR 13 I'M SORRY, 980,000 20,000 GOING TO THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATION OR THE PART-TIME POSITION FOR THE AUDITOR. THE ADDITIONAL 25,000 WOULD REDUCE THE COMMITMENT FOR COMMISSIONER GONZALES INGALSBE FROM AND TO THE TO 800,000 IS THAT CORRECT?

>> YES THANK YOU. >> THE ADDITIONAL TWO 5000 FROM PRECINCT 4 ALLOCATION WILL NOT INCREASE THE CONTRACT THAT IS IN BACKUP OR THAT IS STILL A CONTRACT YOU CAN EXECUTE TODAY.

WE WILL JUST MOVE THAT CONTRIBUTION FROM PRECINCT 1 TO

FOUR. >> RIGHT ON. WELLDONE AND AS LONG AS IS BEEN CAPTURED IN THIS COURT OF RECORD IN THE MICROPHONE I THINK WE ARE READY FOR A VOTE. IF YOU WILL PLEASE

CALL ROLL . >> COMMISSIONER SHELL, YES, COMMISSIONER GUTIERREZ COHEN, YES, COMMISSIONER SMITH, YES, COMMISSIONER GONZALES INGALSBE, YES, JUDGE BECERRA, YES.

>> THINGS AGAIN. >> JUDGE BEFORE YOU MOVE ON ONE OTHER POINT I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE ABOUT THIS PROGRAM AND HOWEVER IT IS ADMINISTERED THERE WAS ABSOLUTELY NO OUTREACH FOR THE PREVIOUS PROGRAM IN PRECINCT 4. AND I DON'T SAY THAT LIGHTLY. I WENT THROUGH AND I LOOKED AT WHERE THEY DID EVENSON WHERE THEY DID OUTREACH AND I COULD NOT FIND ANY SINGLE OUTREACH IN PRECINCT 4. AS A COUNTYWIDE PROGRAM I WOULD HOPE AND ENSURE THAT THERE IS OUTREACH DONE COUNTYWIDE BECAUSE THOSE ISSUES ARE JUST LOCATED ON A COURT ORDER OR SAN MARCO'S. I KNOW THEY ARE WORKING SPECIFICALLY WITH THE CITY OF SAN MARCO'S THECONTRACTOR THAT IS DOING IT WANT TO ENSURE THAT THE FOCUS IS THERE .

>> WELL SAID. ABSOLUTELY TRUE AND CORRECT. WE DO NEED TO

[K.7. Discussion and/or action regarding the authorization to approve specifications for RFP 2024-P01 Delinquent Justice, County and District Court Fees and Fines Collection Services and direct purchasing to solicit for proposals, advertise, and conduct in-person presentations from selected applicants. BECERRA]

OPEN CASE OF AN. >> K SEVEN. DISCUSSION AND/OR ACTION REGARDING THE AUTHORIZATION TO APPROVE SPECIFICATIONS FOR RFP 2024-P01 DELINQUENT JUSTICE, COUNTY AND DISTRICT COURT FEES AND FINES COLLECTION SERVICES AND DIRECT PURCHASING TO SOLICIT FOR PROPOSALS, ADVERTISE, AND CONDUCT IN-PERSON PRESENTATIONS FROM SELECTED APPLICANTS.

>> SO MOVED. >> THANK YOU AND IN THE SPIRIT OF THIS IT IS TO MOVE THROUGH THE PROCESS WITH TIME ON OUR SIDE WITHOUT HAVING THE RUSH AND SENSE OF URGENCY THAT WE SOMETIMES EXPERIENCE IN THE PAST. HURRY UP AND WAIT IS SOMETHING THAT PEOPLE SAY SOMETIMES ABOUT GOVERNMENT AND THE AIM IS TO SIMPLY DO THINGS WITH MORE TIME ON OUR SIDE.

SO, COMMISSIONER GONZALES INGALSBE IF THERE'S NO OTHER COMMENTS FROM ANYONE ELSE CAN CALL ROLE.

>> HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS ON PURCHASING AND WE HAD MENTIONED THE COUNTY DISTRICT COURT FEES AS WELL AS JUSTICE IN THE BACKUP IT MENTIONS JUSTICE, COURTS. I DON'T KNOW WHAT OUR CONTRACT IS CURRENTLY. DO WE HAVE ALL COURTS IN THE SAME CONTRACT? DO WE HAVE THREE DIFFERENT CONTRACTS AND THREE DIFFERENT I DON'T KNOW. EXPLANATIONS OF THE COURTS? WOULD YOU EXPLAIN IT A LITTLE BIT?

>> YES. STEPHANIE HUNT PURCHASING AGENT ORIGINALLY THE JUSTICE COURTS WERE UNDER THEIR OWN CONTRACT AND AN AMENDMENT WAS DONE IN 2014 AT THE DISTRICT. AND THE COUNTY COUR . THE FINES AND FEES COLLECTION. THE COURTS DID MEET BACK IN MARCH AND DISCUSSED THIS AND ASKED PURCHASING TO BRING BACK A SOLICITATION WORK WITH DEPARTMENT HEADS, THE JP HAS. I HAVE BEEN WITH THEM AND THEY WANT TO BRING BACK THEIR OWN. THEY WANT TO BE UNDER THEIR OWN CONTRACT AND THAT IS WHY THIS ONE IS TICKLY OR THE JUSTICE COURT. THE FINES AND FEES. I WILL WORK WITH THE COUNTY AND STRICT COURTS TO BRING BACK A SOLICITATION THAT IS SPECIFIC

TO THEIRS. >> AT THIS TIME WE ARE APPROVING AN RFP FOR JUST THE JUSTICE COURTS? AND HOW ARE COLLECTIONS HANDLED IN THE OTHER COURTS? ARE COLLECTIONS

HANDLED IN A SIMILAR WAY? >> THEY ARE. THEY ARE UNDER THE SAME STATUTE AS FAR AS ARTICLE CIII.0031. THEY ARE HANDLED THEY ARE GUIDED UNDER THE SAME STATUTE BUT THE APPROACH TO COLLECT ON THEM IS DIFFERENT. SO THAT IS WHY THE JUSTICE COURT WOULD LIKE TO BE UNDER THEIR OWN CONTRACT AND NOT COMBINED. AND IT IS TRULY UP TO THE ELECTED OFFICIALS ON WHETHER OR NOT THEY UTILIZE THE CONTRACT AND COLLECT THROUGH THEM OR IF THEY DOIT THEMSELVES .

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>> THE OTHER COURTS WOULD MAKING THAT SIMILAR DECISION AT SOME POINT WHETHER THEY WANT TO PROCURE THE SERVICES OR HANDLE THEM THEMSELVES WHATEVER WAY THEY CHOOSE?

>> CORRECT. UNDER THE CURRENT CONTRACT IT DOES NOT EXPIRE UNTIL APRIL 20 OF 2024. ANY CONTRACT THAT WE START THE PROCESS ON NOW WOULD NOT IN UNTIL APRIL 20 OF 2024. WE HAVE TO SEND A 30 DAY NOTICE OF TERMINATION AND WE CAN SEND THAT NOW IF WE WANTED TO BUT THE CONTRACT WOULD NOT END

UNTIL APRIL 20. >> COMMISSIONER TO CHIME IN THERE I'M NOT INTERESTED IN SENDING ANYONE A LETTER OF TERMINATION I'MINTERESTED IN MOVING THE PROCESS ALONG AND

HAVING TIME ON OUR SIDE . >> DO WE HAVE TO REVISE THE LANGUAGE OF THE AGENDA ITEM BECAUSE IT READS COUNTY AND STRICT PORT FEES AND FINES COLLECTION ALSO. WE NEED TO

REMOVE THAT. >> THE ORIGINAL AGENDA ITEM WAS SPECIFIC TO JUST THE JUSTICE COURT AND IT WAS

CHANGED. >> I KNOW WE HAVE SOME OF OUR JUSTICE OF THE PEACE HERE. WOULD YOU ALL LIKE TO SAY A FEW

WORDS? JUDGE CABLE? >> COMMISSIONERS COURT. THIS IS JUDGE CABLE PRECINCT 3. THE DISCUSSION FOR US TO HAVE SOME OF THESE THINGS ARE OBVIOUS IN THE JURISDICTION IT'S MUCH DIFFERENT THAN THE COUNTY COURT OF LAW. IN DISTRICT COURT WE WORK IN HUNDREDS OF DOLLARSAND THEY WORK IN TENS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS. WE DO NOT TURN OUR MONEY OVER TO COLLECTIONS UNTIL A WARRANT IS ISSUED. THEY ARE WORKING THROUGH CONDITIONS AND PROBATIONS TRYING TO COLLECT THEIR FEES. SO THAT IS A CIRCUMSTANCE AS TO WHY WE ARE ASKING FOR OUR OWN CONTRACT. I DON'T THINK THE COURT IN DISTRICT COURT OR COUNTY COURT LAWS HAVE ANY ISSUE WITH US HAVING OUR OWN CONTRACT.

>> I THINK IT IS FINE, TOO. IT MAKES SENSE. WE CAN BRING IT

TO THE COURT AND IT MAKES PERFECT SENSE. >> HAVE YOU ALL DISCUSSED I KNOW YOU ALL HAVE TALKED WITH STEPHANIE ABOUT THE RFP DEVELOPMENT AND SO I'M SURE YOU ALL ARE COMFORTABLE WITH HOW IT IS STATED THE SERVICES THAT WE ARE ACTUALLY TRYING TO PROCURE. HAVE YOU DISCUSSED IF IT IS JUST FOR THE JUSTICE COURT AND WHAT WILL THAT SELECTION COMMITTEE LOOK LIKE AS FAR AS WHEN WE GET RESPONDENTS WE WILL BE REVIEWING THOSE AND HOW THEY MAKE UP THEIR CONDITIONS ?

>> THE RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE JUDGE CABLE, JUDGE BURNS AND JUDGE MARINO AND THEN A MEMBER FROM THE ASSISTANT DISTRICT ATTORNEY CIVIL DIVISION AND THEN A MEMBER FROM THE COURT IF YOU ALL WOULD LIKE TO BE ON IT AS WELL.

>> I WOULD TELL YOU THAT GIVEN AND I DON'T WANT TO VOLUNTEER MY COLLEAGUE WITHOUT HER PERMISSION BUT GIVEN COMMISSIONER GUTIERREZ COHEN'S PREVIOUS EXPERIENCE ON THE TAX PROCUREMENT COLLECTIONS I WOULD LOVE TO VOLUNTEER YOU IF YOU WOULD TAKE IT. I THOUGHT YOU DID A GREAT JOB ON THAT AND I THOUGHT YOU WERE VERY THOROUGH AND I WOULD NOMINATE YOU TO BE ON THAT IF YOU WOULD ACCEPT IT AND IF THE COURT WOULD SUPPORT

IT. >> I WOULD BE HAPPY TO BUT I BELIEVE JUDGE I BELIEVE YOU WERE ON IT ?

>> I THOUGHT IT WOULD BE A GOOD TIME FOR ME TO BE ON THEIR

YES. >> THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER.

>> FROM THE JP STANDPOINT THERE IS NO WAY WE ARE GOING TO TELL YOU AND TELL YOU WHO NEEDS TO BE ON IT THAT I WOULD SAY FROM MY PERSPECTIVE QUITE FRANKLY WE ARE THE ONLY ONES TO BE ON IT BECAUSE WE KNOW BETTER THAN ANYONE WHAT OUR NEEDS ARE AND IF YOU WANT TO ADD PEOPLE THEM PLEASE. BUT WE NEED TO BE THE MAJORITY AND AGAIN NO ONE KNOWS WHAT OUR NEEDS ARE BETTER

THAN US. >> I BELIEVE THAT, TOO AND I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO HAVE REPRESENTATION FROM THE JUSTICE COURT ALONG THE QUARTER AND OUT WEST.

>> IT LOOKS LIKE IT. IT LOOKS LIKE STEPHANIE HAS DONE A GOOD JOB. SHE HAS A MEDIUM LEVEL OR A LOW-LEVEL COURT AND HIGH-LEVEL COURT AS FAR AS THE AMOUNT OF CASES THAT WE HAVE.

SO, IT HAS BEEN COVERED REALLY WELL. AGAIN WE NEED TO HAVE THE MAJORITY OBVIOUSLY AND I THINK WE CAN CHOOSE IT WITHOUT ANY HELP. IT'S GOING TO GIVE US A MAJORITY SINCE WE KNOW AND WITHOUT BEING DISRESPECTFUL I DON'T THINK ANY OF YOU ALL HAVE HAD TO DEAL WITH COMMISSIONER FINESTHROUGH THE COURT .

>> NO AND NOR DO I CARE TO. >> THANK YOU SIR.

>> SO, IN THE OTHER RECOMMENDATION BESIDES THE COMMISSIONER COURT SOMEONE FROM THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE

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>> YES I WAS GOING TO LEAVE IT UP TO JORDAN TO DECIDE THEIR WORKLOAD AND LET ME KNOW WHO ON HER TEAM WOULD BE REPRESENTING

THEM. >> JORDAN IS IN THE HOT SEAT.

>> IF THE COURT WANTS ME TO NAME A SPECIFIC PERSON TODAY I CAN OR IF YOU ARE OKAY WITH ME DELEGATING IT WHEN IT IS READY TO COME THROUGH YOU CAN DO THAT, TO WHATEVER THE COURT

SEES FIT HAPPY TO DO. >> BASED ON WORKLOAD AND THE WINDOW WE HAVE TO DO THIS I THINK YOU DELEGATING IN THE FUTURE IS FINE A STONE WORKLOA . WOULDN'T YOU AGREE?

>> YES, EVEN OPEN. >> OKAY, IF THERE IS NOTHING ELSE WE WILL MOVE ONTO THE NEXT THING AND CALL A VOTE.

>> I DID NOT MAKE A MOTION SO COMMISSIONER WILLIAM MAKE THE

MOTION? >> DO WE NEED TO REVISE THE LANGUAGE TO REMOVE THE COUNTY AND STRICT COURT?

>> CAN WE ADD THAT OUR REPRESENTATIVE WILL BE THE

JUDGE? >> AND THAT OUR REPRESENTATIVE

WOULD BE JUDGE BECERRA. >> ALONG WITH THE DA CIVIL DIVISION APPOINTEE AND JUDGE MARINO.

>> DID YOU CAPTURE THAT END I THINK THE MICROPHONE HAS GOT I

. THESE CALL ROLE. >> COMMISSIONER SMITH, YES, COMMISSIONER GUTIERREZ COHEN, YES, COMMISSIONER GONZALES INGALSBE, YES, COMMISSIONER SHELL, YES, JUDGE BECERRA, YES.

>> COMMISSIONERS I'M THINKING ABOUT GOING TO ROAD SNACKS AND THEY SHOULD YOU HAVE AGROUPING FOR AN ITEM .

>> SORRY? >> E8 YOU GOT IT. EIGHT.

THERE WE GO. >> THERE YOU ARE. KATE EIGHT.

[K.8. Discussion and possible action to consider salary increases for the County Court at Law Court Reporters and amend the budget accordingly. BECERRA/SMITH/JOHNSON/BROWN/HALL]

>> DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO CONSIDER SALARY INCREASES FOR THE COUNTY COURT AT LAW COURT REPORTERS AND

AMEND THE BUDGET ACCORDINGLY. >> SO MOVED.

>> SECOND. >> WE HAVE A SECOND. AND WE

HAVE ROSA SIGNED UP TO SPEAK. >> IT WAS AN EMAIL.

>> IF YOU WILL READ THAT. >> HELLO I AM AGAINST THIS INSANE REQUEST. AS A TAXPAYER HOW IS THE COUNTY GOING TO AFFORD SUCH A DRASTIC RAISE? THE WHOLE COUNTY IS UNDERPAID WHEN YOU COMPARE IT TO TRAVIS. THE COUNTIES MENTIONED ARE MUCH LARGER THAN HAYS COUNTY WITH A FAR HEAVIER CASELOAD AND THAT IS WHY THE SALARY STUDY DID NOT COMPARE HAYES TO THESE COUNTIES. IF THEY WISH TO GET PAID TRAVIS COUNTY MONEY THAN THEY ARE FREE TO LEAVE. THEY SOUND THEIR LETTERS THEY ARE ALREADY OUT THE DOOR. THE EMPLOYEE WITH ZERO YEARS OF COUNTY SERVICE WENT TO $30,000 RAISE. SHE KNEW WHAT THE PAY WAS WHEN APPLYING. 91,000 IS A GREAT SALARY FOR HAYS COUNTY.

EVERY OFFICE IS UNDERSTAFFED ANDTHEY MANAGE JUST FINE .

THESE EMPLOYEES ARE GREEDY. AND PHYSICALLY MAKE NO SENSE WHEN RAISES ARE COMING IN FEBRUARY. I URGE YOU TO NOT APPROVE THIS RAISE FOR EMPLOYEES WHO SEEM TO ONLY HAVE NEGATIVE THINGS TO SAY ABOUT THE COUNTY AND THEIR JOBS. IT SEEMS LIKE THE MONEY IS BETTER SPENT FIXING THEIR EQUIPMENT.

AS A TAXPAYER THIS IS NOT SOMETHING I BELIEVE IS A FAIR USE OF MONEY FOR A FEW EMPLOYEES. WHAT ABOUT THE REST

OF THE COUNTY EMPLOYEES? >> THANK YOU. JUDGE BROWN JUDGE HALL WOULD YOU LIKE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK? I WAS WAITING ON THE AGENDA ITEM AND THANK YOU JUDGE HALL POINTING IT OUT THAT YOU ARE READY FOR IT. I ALWAYS ASSUME NOTHING.

>> I AGREE. JUDGE, IT'S COUNTY LAW NUMBER 1 AND FIRST I WOULD LIKE TO THANK JUDGE BECERRA AND COMMISSIONER SMITH FOR COSPONSORING THIS AGENDA ITEM AND FOR ME IT'S PART OF WHAT WE SAW THIS MORNING OUR COMMUNITY WORKING TOGETHER.

WHEN WE HAVE PROCLAMATIONS LIKE THE FIRST WITH LIEUTENANT COLONEL CARRUTHERS NEED TO HAVE COMMISSIONERS LIKE ME WHO TEAR UP ON THESE THINGS BUT I'VE SEEN THIS MORNING IS OUR COMMUNITY WORKING TOGETHER TO GET WHAT OUR COMMUNITY NEEDS AND WHAT WE NEED FOR THE HAYS COUNTY COMMISSIONER COURT THAT LAW ARE THREE FULL-TIME ADEQUATELY PAID COURT REPORTERS. IF WE DON'T WE CAN'T WORK. WE ARE COURTS OF RECORD. IF WE DON'T HAVE A COURT REPORTER THERE WE ARE NOT DOING ANYTHING. AT LEAST ONE OF THE JUDGES ISN'T. YES, TWO OF THEM HAVE APPLIED ELSEWHERE BECAUSE THEY CAN GET A HUGE INCREASE AND IDON'T BLAME THEM IT IS A FREE MARKET . IT IS A SELLERS MARKET FOR COURT REPORTERS RIGHT NOW AND WE HAVE TO AND WE ARE BUYERS, WE HAVE TO MEET WHAT THE FREE MARKET SYSTEM IS DOING SOMEWHAT FREE MARKET SYSTEM IS DOING. IT IS

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THREE PEOPLE. >> AS A MEMBER OF THE COURT WHO SAT ON THE SALARY SURVEY COMMITTEE I WILL TELL YOU THAT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE ALWAYS CONSIDER AND WEIGH CAREFULLY. I HAVE SAT THROUGH NUMEROUS JUSTIFICATION ANGLES AND THOUGHT PROCESSES ABOUT SALARY INCREASES AND VACATIONS ON PROGRAMS AND PAY STRUCTURES AND PAY GRADE. THE REASON THIS TO ME WAS WORTHY OF MY NAME ON THE AGENDA WAS BECAUSE OF ALL THE WORK WE HAVE DONE MODERNIZING OUR JUDICIAL SYSTEM. WE HAVE THE JUDGE THE DAS OFFICE THE ATTORNEYS WE CAN HAVE EVERY SHERIFF'S OFFICE BRINGING IN THE INDIVIDUAL DETAINED. WE COULD HAVE THE ENTIRE SYSTEM THERE AND READY TO GO IN WITHOUT A COURT REPORTER NOTHING HAPPENS. AND WHEN THAT IS BROUGHT TO LIGHT IT JUST IS A REAL VULNERABILITY THAT WE UNDERSTAND IN THE PAST WE HAVE EVEN HAD TO OUTSOURCE AT A VERY HIGH DOLLAR AMOUNT CONTRACTING WHAT DO THEY CALL THE COURT REPORTERSTO COME IN

AND VISIT ? CONTRACT LABOR? >> CONTRACTS COURT REPORTERS.

IT IS AN EXPENSIVE ENDEAVOR THAT IS INCONSISTENT. I'M NOT TALKING THESYSTEM IT IS INCONSISTENT . BECAUSE OF THE IMPORTANT AND SIGNIFICANCE AND THE ACHILLES' HEEL I HAVE ON MY MIND I THOUGHT WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE BRING IT TO THE HOMESTRETCH AND FINISH IT RIGHT BECAUSE AGAIN WITHOUT A COURT REPORTER YOU ARE DELETING AN ENTIRE COURTROOM. COMMISSIONER GONZALES INGALSBE OR COMMISSIONERGUTIERREZ COHEN I

WILL START ON YOUR SIDE . >> JUDGE AS THE COSPONSOR I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A COUPLE OF COMMENTS AND I WANTED TO BRING THIS TO DISCUSSION BECAUSE WE HAVE HAD DISCUSSIONS AND I KNOW THE SHORTAGES WE HAVE HAD IN THE PAST AND WE TRIED TO ADDRESS THIS WITHIN A YEAR AND A HALF TWO YEARS AGO WITH SOME OF THE SALARY AND EVEN SOONER THAN THAT WITH SOME OF THE SALARYADJUSTMENTS WE DID AT HIRING . I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS FOR OUR JUDGES THAT AFTER WE TALKED ABOUT THIS I REALLY TRIED TO DIG INTO IT QUITE A BIT. FOR THOSE WHO DON'T KNOW EVEN THIS SESSION OF THE LEGISLATURE THERE WERE BILLS THAT HAVE MADE IT EASIER FOR THOSE FOLKS AS WE HAD QUALIFIED COURT REPORTERS OUT THERE THAT MIGHT LIVE OUT OF STATE TO DO THE JOB HERE REMOTELY IN TEXAS TO HELP WITH THE EFFICIENCIES TO TRYTO ADDRESS THAT . MY FIRST QUESTION IS SPECIFIC TO THE PCOUNTY COURT OF LAWVERSUS DISTRICT COURT . BECAUSE MY FEAR I KNOW THAT WE HAVE TO ADDRESS THEM BUT WE DON'T HAVE THE TURNOVER WE HAVE NOT HAD ANY OF THE TURNOVER AT THE DISTRICT COURT LEVEL AND

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ADDRESS THE PROBLEM? >> I CANNOT GIVE YOU THE SPECIFICS OF THE WHY IN THE PAST, I STARTED HERE JANUARY 1 BUT MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT WITH RESPECT TO THE DISTRICT COURT THEY COME ONCE A YEAR AND SAY HERE IS HOW MUCH WE NEED.

BUT THE ISSUE OF THE SAME FOR EACH COURT REPORTER, WE DO HAVE TO RECOGNIZE THEIR EXPERIENCE. IT IS HARD TO PAY SOMEONE A STARTING SALARY IF THEY HAVE 28 YEARS OR 38 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE LIKE OUR COURT REPORTERS DO. AND, IF YOU ON THE DOCUMENT THAT I SUBMITTED IS PART OF THE PACKAGE THERE IS A VARIATION OF THE DISTRICT COURT ON $150,000. I DIDN'T DIG IN LIKE YOU DID BUT MY UNDERSTANDING IS IT IS EXPERIENCE. OR THE NEED TO GO TO DIFFERENT COUNTIES FOR SOME OF THOSE GIVEN THAT THEY ARE A LITTLE MORE BURDENSOME WITH THE JOB IF THEY TRAVELMAYBE THEY ARE REWARDED BY THE DISTRICT JUDGES .

>> CAN WE ASKED JUDGE TO BE? >> ANYBODY APPROACHING THE

PODIUM? I AM SORRY. >> I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE SALARY PROPOSAL IS MY ISSUE IS I AGREE WITH JUDGE HALL THEY NEED TO BE PAID OR ADEQUATELY. THEY ARE SUPER IMPORTANT AND WE CANNOT DO OUR JOBS WITHOUT THE . THE ONLY RESERVATION I HAVE IS WE HAVE SEVERAL LONGTIME COUNTY EMPLOYEES IN THE DISTRICT COURT LEVEL AND I DON'T THINK A NEW EMPLOYEE SHOULD BE MAKING MORE THAN A DISTRICT COURT REPORTER WHO HAS BEEN HERE FOR 25 OR 30 YEARS. THAT DOESN'T SEEM FAIR AND I UNDERSTAND WHERE WE ARE LAGGING BEHIND THE OTHER COUNTIES THAT SURROUND US EVERYTHING. NOT JUST THIS. IT IS A SYSTEMWIDE PROBLEM. I DO AGREE THAT THEY NEED TO GET MORE MONEY I JUST DON'T KNOW WHAT THE SALARY PROPOSALS ARE .

>> JUDGE TBI WANT TO BE CLEAR IF SOMEONE COMES TO YOUR COURT WITH 30 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE YOU DON'T EXPECT THEM TO START WITH A STARTING SALARY BASED ON EXPERIENCE. I'M NOT SAYING IF YOU ARE A NEW HIRE AND YOU ARE STRAIGHT OUT OF GETTING YOUR CERTIFICATE FROM THE AGENCY THE TEXAS SUPREME COURT SUBSET THAT YOU SHOULD GET BUMPED UP AND MATCH EVERYBODY ELSE THERE.

NO, YOU START AT THE STARTING SALARY BUT WE HAVE THREE COURT REPORTERS WITH OVER 30 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE AND THEY SHOULD NOT BE DOWN AT ZERO AND WHEN I SAID OKAY AND YOUR JUDGE SAID WHERE ON THIS NEW STEP PROGRAM WHERE THEY SHOULD BE I THINK IT IS LIKE 12 OR 11. HERE IS SOMETHING THAT IS READABLE AND COMPETITIVE. WHAT WE HAVE SEEN IS THAT THE COUNTY THE COURT IN THE GENERAL AREA ARE COMPETING AND THEY AR BIDDING AGAINST US. AND THAT IS THE PROBLEM. LET'S HAVE A QUESTION. IT'S NOT EVEN A QUESTION WE KNOW IT'S HAPPENING. THERE COUNTY HAS BEEN POACHING OUR PEOPLE ALL THE TIME. X WE HAVE TO LOOK AT OUR COURT REPORTERS. WE MIGHT HAVE SOME DISTRICT COURT REPORTERS THAT ARE NOT AT THE LEVEL THEY SHOULD BE BASED ON EXPERIENCE. MAYBE IT HAS TO BE A LOOK AT ALL OF THE COURT

REPORTERS AND THEIR SALARY. >> I AGREE. IT HAS TO BE

FAIR. >> I KNOW I HAVE TALKED TO JUDGE BROWN MANY TIMES ABOUT THE DIFFICULTIES THEY HAVE BEEN HAVING GETTING COURT REPORTERS AND I UNDERSTAND THAT. WE CANNOT GET OUR FULL-COURT REPORTER SPOT FILLED WE HAD IT OPEN FOR TWO YEARS. AND WE HAVE NO ONE TO TAKE IT.

>> THE MORE I DUG INTO THIS AND THE MORE I AGREED WE HAVE TO ADDRESS IT IN THE COUNTY COURT LEVEL AND CREATE. I KNOW THEY ARE PAID DIFFERENTLY AND I'M NOT JUST TALKING ABOUT SALARY THEY ARE PAID DIFFERENTLY AT THE DISTRICT LOGISTICALLY DIFFERENT AT THE DISTRICT LEVEL AND AT THE COUNTY COURT LEVEL IF THEY HADN'T HAD THE TURNOVER AT THE DISTRICT LEVEL AND MAKING WHAT THEY HAVE DONE OR LOOKING AT THE PROCESS THEY USE IT MAY BE BENEFICIAL AS WE LOOK AT WHAT TO DO WITH THE COURT REPORTERS. AND THE OTHER THING I WOULD ASK AND LIKE I SAID I TRIED TO DIG INTO THIS AS MUCH AS I COULD AND I MAY UPSET SOME PEOPLE WHENEVER I SAY THIS BUT THERE IS GREAT TECHNOLOGY OUT THERE RIGHT NOW THAT I AM SCARED TO

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>> IT'S NOT NECESSARILY THAT JUDGES DON'T WANT TO HEAR, IT IS JUDGES AND COURT REPORTERS AND PRACTITIONERS WHO REQUEST THE RECORDS FROM THE REPORTERS BECAUSE IT'S NOT ACCURATE. A JUDGE OVER IN COLLEGE STATION I SAW HIM AT THE JUDICIAL CONFERENCE BECAUSE HE WAS COMPLAINING ABOUT IF HE GOT ELECTED AND THEY HAD THIS MACHINE HE SAID I AM RESPONSIBLE FOR RUNNING THE MACHINE. I DON'T HAVE TIME TO DO THAT . I CAN'T. WHAT DO I DO WITH GENERATING RECORDS FOR AN APPEAL? THAT IS NOT MY JOB. YOU HIRE SOMEONE AT $75,000 TO

RUN A MACHINE? I DON'T KNOW. >> IT TAKES HEY SIRI TO

ANOTHER LEVEL. >> THE TEXAS SUPREME COURT SAID YOU HAVE TO BE CERTIFIED COURT REPORTER TO GENERATE A RECORD THAT WILL ACCEPT TO GO FROM TRIAL COURT TO APPELLATE COURT TO THE TEXAS SUPREME COURT. OTHERWISE TO ME WE ARE NOT BEING EFFICIENT OR EFFECTIVE. YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE COUNSEL ARGUE WITH THE JUDGE AND PUSH A BUTTON THAT

YOU DIDN'T DO IT RIGHT. >> MY POINT IS IF WE END UP IN A SITUATION WHERE WE LITERALLY CANNOT RUN THE COURT HAVE TO HAVE SOME TYPE OF BACKSTOP. IF IT HAS BEEN RECOGNIZED BY THE STATE OR IF IT IS RECOGNIZED BY THE STATE THEN OUR COURT CAN AT LEAST FUNCTION. WHILE WE ARE ATTEMPTING TO FILL THE POSITIONS. AND I KNOW THAT IS PROBABLY SACRILEGE TO SAY IT BUT WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW, EVEN IF WE DO THIS TODAY I DON'T KNOW IF IT IS THE END OF THE PROBLEM. I DON'T THINK IT IS. IS THAT A FAIR STATEMENT?

>> I DON'T THINK IT IS EVER THE END OF ANY PROBLEM BUT WE

ARE TALKING ABOUT EMPLOYEES. >> JUDGE FEELING BROWN. I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SAY THAT I HAD TO COME TO THE COURT THE FIRST PART OF THE YEAR I BELIEVE I HAD ONE APPLICANT WHO WAS QUALIFIED FOR THE COURT REPORTER POSITION. I HAD TO COME IN AND REQUEST THE COURT FOR MORE MONEY BECAUSE SHEWOULD NOT ACCEPT THE SALARY THAT WAS OFFERED AT THE TIME . WE WERE UNABLE TO HAVE JURY TRIALS FOR THREE MONTHS BECAUSE WE DID NOT HAVE ENOUGH COVERAGE. AND COMMISSIONER SMITH WHAT YOU ARE SUGGESTING THEY HAVE TRIED THAT ON NUMEROUS OCCASIONS IN DIFFERENT COURTS AND WHAT JUDGE HALL SAID HAPPENS A LOT OFTHE TIME WE ARE PUT TO RECORD AND WE HAVE A JURY TRIAL I CANNOT IMAGINE HOW THAT WOULD WORK . YOU'VE GOT WITNESSES, YOU'VE GOT DEFENDANTS, YOU GOT PLAINTIFFS, YOU'VE GOT RESPONDENT. IT WOULD BE VERY DIFFICULT TO DO THAT WITH AI OR ANY OTHER TYPE OF TECHNOLOGY IN THESE COURT REPORTERS THEY FILL THAT VALUABLE POSITION FOR US AND THEY ARE ABLE TO DO THAT.

FOR EXAMPLE I HAD A SITUATION WHERE I NEEDED TO HAVE SOME TESTIMONY PREPARED FOR ME. I GO TO MY COURT REPORTER AND I SAY CAN YOU PULL THIS UP FOR ME AND SHE IS ABLE TO PRINT IT OUT FOR ME OR SEND IT TO ME VIA EMAIL. I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT WOULD WORK WITH TECHNOLOGY OR IF IT WOULD WORK WELL. WHAT I HAVE HEARD FROM OTHER PEOPLE WHO ARE USING THIS TYPE OF TECHNOLOGY IS IT DOES NOT WORK AS WELL.

>> I TOTALLY AGREE. WE JUST FINISHED A CAPITAL MURDER CASE IN MY COURT AND THERE WERE CLOSE TO 100 EXHIBITS INCLUDING TWO FIREARMS, BULLETS, LAW OF PHOTOS AND THE COURT REPORTER TAKES CARE OF ALL OF THAT STUFF YOU CANNOT HAVE SOMEONE ZOOMING IN ON A TRIAL WHERE YOU ARE TAKING IN EXHIBITS BECAUSE THOSE ALL HAVE TO BE KEPT IN A SECURE LOCATION AND THE RECORD HAS TO BE PREPARED FOR THE COURT OF APPEALS. THERE MIGHT BE A STOPGAP FUNCTION WHEN YOU'RE DOING ANONJURY TRIAL .

>> THAT'S WHAT I'M SUGGESTING. THERE WILL ALWAYS BE A ROLE FOR COURT REPORTERS. I TRULY BELIEVE THERE WILL ALWAYS BE A ROLE FOR COURT REPORTERS BUT WHAT HAPPENS WHENEVER THE ONE SCHOOL IN TEXAS AS WE DON'T HAVE ANY APPLICANT? WHAT HAPPENS WHEN WE HAVE A POSITION OPEN FOR A YEAR AND WE CANNOT ILL IT? AT A CERTAIN POINT WE HAVE TO LOOK AT SOMETHING IN ORDER TO KEEP THE TRAIN RIDE GOING AND I'M NOT SAYING WE HAVE TO CONVERT TO IT WE HAVE TO LOOK AT A STOPGAP OF SOME TYPE AND I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO HAVE SOME UNIFORMITY BETWEEN DISTRICT COURT AND COUNTY COURT AT LAW. OKAY. COMMISSIONER

GONZALES INGALSBE? >> JUDGE I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS AND MAYBE STATEMENT OR TWO. SO, I WANTED TO ASK

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KNOW IF THIS WAS ONE OF THEM. >> NO, IT WAS NOT.

>> OKAY. >> IF I CAN APPROACH? I CAN TALK ABOUT IT A LITTLE BIT AND WHERE OTHERS HAVE HAD COURT

REPORTERS. >> SURE.

>> THANK YOU SHERRY MILLER HAYS COUNTY HR DIRECTOR. IT WAS NOT A POSITION THAT WAS IDENTIFIED WHEN THE MAG STUDY WAS APPROACHING IMPLEMENTATION. THERE WERE A HANDFUL OF POSITIONS THAT BASED ON OUR KNOWLEDGE OF HOW THOSE POSITIONS FUNCTIONED THIS POSITION WAS REGRADED AND GRADED TO A HIGHER MINIMUM STARTING THAN WHERE IT WAS IN THE PREVIOUS PLAN. MINIMUM NOW FOR THIS POSITION IS 91.8.

WHAT JUDGES ARE ASKING FOR THE TWO COUNTY COURT AT LAW COURT REPORTERS THAT ARE BEING PAID AT THAT MINIMUM FOR SALARY ADJUSTMENTS. SIMILAR TO THE SALARY ADJUSTMENT THAT THE COURT APPROVED FOR THE REPORTER THAT WAS HIRED IN JANUARY FOR JUDGE BROWN'S OFFICE. THE MARKET DATA AND I REVALIDATED IT SITTING HERE THIS MORNING JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT WE WEREN'T TALKING ABOUT A HUGE DIFFERENCE. WITH OUR MARKET SOURCES REMEMBERING WHO WE BENCHMARKED OUR JOBS AGAINST IN THE MAG STUDY THE AVERAGE AND I DON'T HAVE BEXAR COUNTY. I AM PENDING VERIFICATION OF THEIR SALARY COULD PUSH THIS LITTLE BIT. THE MINIMUM IS 86,000 AND OUR MINIMUM IS 91.8. WHAT IS HAPPENING IS THESE OTHER COUNTIES WHO ARE NOT HIRING AT PTHE MINIMUM. IF THEY ARE GOIN TO BEXAR COUNTY OR WHEREVER FOR ONE UNDER 25 OR MORE THEN THOSE COUNTIES ARE NOT PAYING THE MINIMUM. SO THEY HAVE SOMETHING IN PLACE PROBABLY THE SALARY EXCEPTION PROGRAM LIKE WE HAVE TWO REVIEW THE EXPERIENCE AND WHAT THAT APPLICANT IS BRINGING TO THE COMMUNITY. SO, WE DO HAVE THE TWO COURT REPORTERS THAT ARE NOW IN PLACE AT THE COUNTY COURT AT LAW. THEY ARE PAID AT THE MINIMUM AND HAVE EXTENSIVE EXPERIENCE. THEY CAME TO US WITH EXTENSIVE EXPERIENCE AND ONE OF THEM HAS BEEN HERE RIGHT AT FIVE YEARS. WHEN WE IMPLEMENT THE STEP PLAN THAT TO KILLER EMPLOYEE WILL GO OUT TO WHATEVER THAT FIVE-YEAR STEP IS. THE SECOND ONE THAT IS ON STAFF STILL IS A PRETTY NEW HIRE. SHE MUST'VE JUST COME IN THE LAST MONTH OR SO SO THERE WOULD NOT BE A STEP ADJUSTMENT FOR THAT EMPLOYEE .

>> THE NEW HIRES ARE ABLE TO BE HIRED AT THE 25TH

PERCENTILE? IS THAT CORRECT? >> IF REQUESTED. THEY ARE IN A GRADE THAT THE REQUEST WOULD NOT COME TO THE COMMISSIONERS COURT THAT THEY WOULD COME TO HR IN THE BUDGET OFFICE.

>> WAS THAT NOT DONE? >> THE ONE THAT CAME IN 2018 THERE WAS NOT, AS BEST AS I CAN REMEMBER THEY MIGHT HAVE BEEN HIRED WITH THE SALARY EXCEPTION BUT NOW WITH A CHANGE INTHE PAY PLAN THEY WERE PLACED AT THE NEW MINIMUM .

>> I AM TALKING ABOUT THE NEWER ONES THAT JUST CAME IN

WERE THEY NOT REQUESTED TO BE- >> THE LATEST ONE WAS.

>> ANY QUESTIONS? >> I DO HAVE A QUESTION. SO, IF NOTHING WAS DONE AND WE DO THE IMPLEMENTATION IN FEBRUARY WHAT WOULD THE PAY ADJUSTMENT BE FOR EACH OF THE

COMMISSIONERS? >> FOR THE NEWEST HIRE THAT HAS BEEN HERE FOR LESS THAN ONE YEAR THERE WOULD BE NO CHANGE IN SALARY. FOR THE EMPLOYEE THAT HAS BEEN HERE FOR FIVE YEARS THEY WOULD BE PLACED AT WHATEVER THAT STEP AMOUNT IS

FOR FIVE YEARS OF EMPLOYMENT. >> CAN YOU TELL US WHAT THAT

IS? >> I CAN TELL YOU WHAT IT IS IDENTIFIED AS RIGHT NOW.

AND THAT EMPLOYEE AND I SAY THAT BECAUSE WE ARE STILL VERY SERIOUSLY LOOKING AT THE STEP PLAN AND HOW IT IS DEVELOPED AND HOW MANY STEPS AND SO RIGHT NOW, AS THAT PLAN STANDS THEY

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>> I DON'T WANT TO INTERRUPT ANYONE FOR THE VIEWING PUBLIC, SOME PEOPLE DO THIS AS A HOBBY THEY WILL CLICK ON THE AGENDA ITEM AND THEY WANT TO SEE WHAT IS GOING ON AND FOR THE VIEWING PUBLIC IS TWO THINGS GOING ON HERE THAT CAN BE VIEWED AS CONFUSING. A NEW HIRE ISN'T NECESSARILY A PERSON WITH ZERO EXPERIENCE. I WANT TO MAKE THAT DISTINCTION SO SOMEONE WATCHING I THINK THERE ARE TWO MOVING PARTS HERE IN TRYING TO EQUATE SOMEONE'S EMPLOYMENT AND THEIR PAY. A NEW HIRE IS ALSO PA NEW HIRE IF THEY HAVE 25 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE. SO PART OF THE CONVERSATION IS SOMEONE WITH 25 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE SHOULDN'T COME IN AS SOMEONE WHO JUST GOT THEIR CERTIFICATION FROM THE SUPREME COURTTO DO THE JOB . AND THAT ARGUMENT IS WHAT IS BEING DISCUSSED HERE IN PART AND I DON'T WANT THE VIEWING PUBLIC TO GLOSS OVER THAT ON ACCIDENT.

>> JUDGE I THINK YOU ARE RIGH . THE ONLY QUESTION I HAVE AND THIS ISWHERE MY CONCERN COMES IN . I AM SUPPORTIVE AND WE TALKED ABOUT THIS I TALKED ABOUT THE JUDGE AND I'M SUPPORTIVE OF THE PAY INCREASE FOR THIS SPECIFICALLY TO MAINTAIN THEM BUT I ALSO DON'T WANT TO BE HELD OVER A BARREL HEAD EVERY TIME I GET A JOB OFFER FROM ANOTHER COUNTY. THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS THAT AT THIS POINT WE HAVE AT LEAST TWO OF THESE EMPLOYEES WHO HAVE BEEN WITH US FOR LESS THAN A YEAR. THEY WERE HIRED AT A RATE THAT THEY ACCEPTED THE JOB AND NOW THEY'RE SAYING I'M GOING TO LEAVE BECAUSE I GOT OFFERS NOTHING ELSE SOMEWHERE ELSE. THAT'S ONE OF THE

CONCERNS. >> THAT IS ONE OF THOSE. IF THEY BEEN HERE FOR LESS THAN A YEAR WE HAVE A SALARY EXCEPTION FOR THE RECENT HIGHER AT 103. WE TRIED TO GET MORE BUT WE HAVE TO GET BACK TO THE COURT SO WE CAN CAPTURE THAT PERSON.

BUT THE TWO WHO ARE THEY HAVE 30 YEARS EXPERIENCE MEANS THEY ARE LONGER IN THEIR CAREER AND BEING TOWARDS RETIREMENT AND IF YOU ARE LOOKING TOWARDS RETIREMENT YOU WANT TO PUT AS

MUCH IN YOUR NEST EGG THATYOU POSSIBLY CAN . >> I DON'T DISAGREE WITH THAT AT ALL. MY CONCERN IS WHY TAKE THE JOB IF YOU ARE GOING TO TRY TO -IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO HAVE A LOT OF EMOTION TOWARDS ACCEPTING A POSITION AND WITHIN A YEAR ASKING FOR A PAY RAISE BECAUSE YOU ARE GOING TO GO SOMEWHERE ELSE. THAT IS DIFFICULT FOR ME. I SUPPORT OR FUNDING BUT I DON'T WANT THEM NOT JUST THESE EMPLOYEES BUT I DON'T WANT ANY OTHER EMPLOYEE COMING BACK WITHIN A YEAR AND SAYING WELL YES I TOOK THE JOB AND I KNEW THAT THIS WAS THE PAY AND NOW I'M GOING TO LEAVE UNLESS OR MAYBE TAKE A JOB SOMEWHERE ELSE IS CONCERNING TO ME. > TO ME THAT IS OUR CONTEMPORARY ENVIRONMENT WHERE YOU HAVE PEOPLE WHO HAVE GREAT SKILLS AND NOT ENOUGH OF THEM THAT THE BUYER IS BUYING UP THE PRIZE AND THAT IS THE PARTICULAR WE ARE IN. I WOULD LIKE TO KEEP THESE THEY ARE VERY VALUABLE TO US AND IT WOULD BE A HUGE PAIN IF THEY LEAVE. I AM COMMITTED TO BE HERE TO ADVOCATE FOR THEM SO THAT THEY STAY BECAUSE IT WOULD KEEP THE EFFICIENCY AND EFFECTIVENESS OF WHAT OUR COURTS DO IN ADMINISTERING AND PROVIDING JUSTICE GOING FORWARD RATHER THAN ALL THE TIME THAT WE WOULDHAVE TO SPEND GOING THROUGH THE RECRUITMENT PROCESS

P. >> JUDGE I WOULD LIKE TO GIVE COMMISSIONER GUTIERREZ COHEN A CHANCE TO SPEAK BUT I HAVE ONE QUESTION BEFORE I HANDED OVER TO HER. THE WINDOW OF TIME THAT THEY WERE HIRED IN NO WE WERE GOING THROUGH THE SALARY SURVEY. WAS NOT DISCUSSED AND WAS THERE SOME KIND OF -I'M NOT FISHING I'M JUST ASKING. WAS THERE WE ARE GOING THROUGH A SALARY SURVEY OF RATING SALARIES AND THIS IS WHERE YOU ARE AT RIGHT NOW WITH THE HOPES OF A POTENTIAL HOPE OF SETTLING SALARY ONCE EVERYTHING IS DONE. WAS THAT PART OF THE INTERVIEWING CONVERSATION? COULD THAT BE A POSSIBLE REASON WHY SOMEONETOOK THE JOB WITH THE HOPE OF CLOSURE ?

>> I THINK A LOT OF IT, JUDGE BROWN AGAIN. A LOT OF IT OIL DOWN TO I HAVE DONE TO SALARY EXCEPTIONS NOW TO GET COURT REPORTERS IN THE POSITION FOR MY COURT. THE OTHER COURT REPORTERS HAVE BEEN HERE LONGER AND IT IS A SLAP IN THE FACE WHEN SOMEONE COMES IN MAKING MORE THAN YOU MADE. OR THAT YOU ARE MAKING AND ONE OF THE ONES THAT IS UPSET HAS BEEN

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THE PERSON CAME INTO THE JOB AND SAW PEOPLE GETTING MORE MONEY WHO HAVE LESSTIME HERE . I CAN SEE WHY THAT WOULD BE A

LITTLE INSULTING TO THEM. >> I AM STRUGGLING WITH THIS, HONESTLY. NOW, I TOTALLY BELIEVE IN PAYING PEOPLE WHAT THEY ARE WORTH. YOU KNOW, YOUR JOB SKILLS AND CAREERS. BUT THE ASK OF THE TWO THAT JUST STARTED HERE THIS YEAR 111 MONTHS AND THEN ONE MONTH AND THEN ASKING FOR A $30,000 INCREASE. THAT DOES NOT SIT WELL WITH ME WHEN I THINK ABOUT ALL AND OTHER DEPARTMENTS AND ALL OF THE EMPLOYEES THAT ARE CRUCIAL IN OUR COUNTY SERVICES TO GIVE THESE TWO INDIVIDUALS WHO HAVE ONLY BEEN HERE LESS THAN A YEAR THAT KIND OF INCREASE IT IS PERSONALLY IT DOES NOT FEEL GOOD TO ME, HONESTLY. WE JUST WENT THROUGH THE STUDY AND WE ARE WAITING FOR FEBRUARY SO EVERYONE WILL START GETTING THESE OTHER INCREASES. AND I AM JUST WONDERING IF WE CANNOT WAIT UNTIL THEN TO REVISIT THIS AND SEE HOW THAT GOES. TO PROVE THIS TODAY FOR ME I AM NOT FEELING VERY FAVORABLE FOR IT.

>> I WILL SAY THAT COMMISSIONER SMITH CHIMED IN WHILE YOU HIDE YOUR TIME AND I KNOW YOU ARE NOT DONE SO IF YOU COULD FINISH HER THOUGHTS AS WELL? > I HAD SOME OF THE SAME THOUGHTS AS COMMISSIONER GUTIERREZ COHEN. IN FEBRUARY WE ARE GOING TO PLACE EMPLOYEES IN THEIRSTEAD AND VICKI, I THOUGHT WE HAD MONEY FOR MERIT INCREASES AS WELL. IS THAT NOT CORRECT? MAYBE I MISUNDERSTOOD . CAN YOU CLARIFY THAT ?

>> YES VICKI DORSETT HAYS COUNTY BUDGET OFFICER. THE COURT DID SET ASIDE FUNDING FOR INCREASES AT THE DEPARTMENT HEAD OR ELECTED OFFICIALS DISCRETION. SO IN FEBRUARY EVERY POSITION WITHIN THE COUNTY OUTSIDE OF COLLECTIVE BARGAINING WILL MOVE INTO THE SALARY CHART INTO A STEP THAT IS ASSOCIATED WITH THE CURRENT POSITION THAT THEY ARE PERFORMING. THEN THERE IS AN ADDITIONAL SET OF FUNDING THAT WILL BE AVAILABLE TO THOSE OF THE DEPARTMENT HEADS BASED ON THE LONG 70 OF THE INDIVIDUALS IN THAT APARTMENT THAT THE DEPARTMENT HEAD WOULD HAVE THE ABILITY TO ALLOCATE TO

INDIVIDUALS. >> ALL RIGHT THANK YOU FOR THE

CLARIFICATION. >> I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO CLARIFY THAT THE DISTRICT COURT REPORTERS THEIR APPOINTMENT AND COMPENSATION IS OUTLINED IN GOVERNMENT CODE 52 AND THEY ARE CAPPED AT 10 PERCENT OVER THE PRECEDING BUDGET YEAR. SO, THE ONE THAT HAS BEEN ONE OF PERCENT HAYS COUNTY THE COURT REPORTER IN THE DISTRICT COURTS WAS 100 PERCENT HAYS COUNTY FOR 18 YEARS IS AT 126 CURRENTLY. AND THE WAY THESE STEP PLANS ARE IMPLEMENTED THE GUIDELINE IS UNFORTUNATELY IT DID NOT COUNT FOR OUTSIDE COUNTY EXPERIENCE WHICH DOES PRESENT SOME ISSUE WITH CERTAIN POSITIONS WHICH IS WHY THE LONG 70 PIECE WAS ADDED TO MOVE INDIVIDUALS.

>> THANK YOU. JUDGE, JUDGES ALSO. I REALLY APPRECIATE YOU COMING HERE AND ADVOCATING FOR YOUR EMPLOYEES. IT IS IMPORTANT AND WHAT IS YOU SHOULD BE DOING. WE HAVE CONCERNS. WE JUST WENT THROUGH THE SALARY STUDY AS MENTIONED AND WE WERE WAITING FOR FEBRUARY TO PUT OUR EMPLOYEES IN THE STEP PLAN AND WE HAVE MONEY SET ASIDE FOR MERIT INCREASES AND I REALLY FEEL THAT WE NEED TO WAIT UNTIL THAT

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ALSO. >> RESPECTFULLY I ASK YOU NOT TO WAIT BUT DO SOMETHING. FIND A MIDDLE GROUND. WE HAVE THE NEWEST HIRES MAKING MORE THAN PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN HERE FOR A WHILE. IF YOU CAN AT LEAST BRING THEM ALL UP TO HER LEVEL AT A MINIMUM IF NOT MORE WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO RETAIN THE OTHER TWO. THE RETENTION IS WHAT JUDGE BROWN, JUDGE JOHNSON WE ALL WANT TO RETAIN. THE NUMBERS WE TOOK WERE FROM THE REGRADING THROUGH THE SALARY STUDY, THROUGH THE MAG STUDY AND THE STEP IS WHAT WE SAID WELL, THIS SEEMS TO BE A COMPROMISE OR AND IN BETWEEN. IF THAT IS TOO MUCH THEN PICK ANOTHER STEP THAT WE CAN'T BE THE PEOPLE WITH LESS EXPERIENCE WITH THE COUNTY OR MORE EXPERIENCE WITH THE COUNTY MAKING LESS THAN THE BRAND-NEW HIRE. AND IF WE NEED TO MAKE I MEAN, THIS IS COMMISSIONER SMITH AND JUDGE BECERRA'S AGENDA ITEM NOT MINE. IT IS YOUR COURT NOT MY COURT BUT WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING BECAUSE IT'S NOT THE FULL AMOUNT AS REQUESTED I LEARNED THAT IN NEGOTIATIONS YEARS AGO TO ASK FOR EVERYTHING THAT YOU THINK IS REASONABLE AND HOPE YOU CAN COMPROMISE IN BETWEEN . MY REQUEST IS COMMISSIONERS COURT DO SOMETHING THAT BRINGS UP THE COUNTY COURT LAW AND COUNTY COURT LAW NUMBER 2 AND BRINGS IT UP TO AT LEAST NOT MORE FOR COUNTY COURT LAW NUMBER 3. OTHERWISE WE ARE GOING TO BE BACKHERE ASKING FOR THOSE NUMBERS ANYWAY BEFORE FINDING A REPLACEMENT . AND I KNOW EVERYONE WANTS T WAIT BUT THE MARKET IS OUT THERE TELLING OUR COUNTY COURT AT LAW AND COURT REPORTERS YOU DON'T NEED TO COME DOWN HERE YOU CAN MAKE $145,000 PER YEAR. I WANT TO KEEP THEM OR OTHERWISE YOU ARE MAKING THE COURT RUN A INEFFICIENTLY AND VERY

UN-EFFECTIVELY. >> I APPRECIATE THOSE COMMENTS BUT WE ALSO STRUGGLED ON WHETHER OR NOT TO GIVE THE EXCEPTION AT THAT TIME BECAUSE WE KNEW THAT WOULD HAPPEN.

>> THIS EXCEPTION FOR COUNTY COURT LAW NUMBER 3 WAS NOT IN

THE COURT. >> WE DID THE EXCEPTION OF THE NEW HIRE COMING IN AND BRINGING HER IN AT THAT NEW AMOUNT. WE STRUGGLED WITH THAT BECAUSEWE KNEW THIS WOULD HAPPEN .

>> RIGHT. THE EXCEPTION I'M TALKING ABOUT IS NOT THE NEWEST

ONE . >> UNDERSTANDS. IT IS THE

CAUSE OF THIS. >> COMMISSIONER SHELL?

>> I APPRECIATE THE COMMISSIONERS BEING HERE AND THE JUDGES THEY ARE DOING THEIR BEST ON WHAT THEY FEEL IS AN IMPORTANT SPECIALIZED POSITION AND I UNDERSTAND YOUR CONCERN WITH THAT BECAUSE THAT IS THEIR JOB AND WITHOUT THAT THEY CAN'T DO THEIR JOB PROPERLY. SO NOTHING I SAY HAS ANY REASON TO BE THAT OUR JUDGES ARE HERE WITH THEIR BEST INTENT AND THEY FEEL THAT THISIS NEEDED . I WANT TO REALLY SPEAK MORE GENERALLY ABOUT THE PROCESS THAT WE WENT THROUGH AND AS COMMISSIONER GONZALES INGALSBE MENTIONED IS NOT THE ONLY TIME WHEN THE COURT APPROVES THE SALARY EXCEPTION WE UNDERSTAND THAT THERE WILL BE UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES WHICH IS DURING THIS WHOLE SALARY COMPENSATION PLANNING PROCESS IT CAME UP MANY TIMES ON HOW THERE CAN BE POLICY AROUND IT BECAUSE WE KNOW WHAT IS HAPPENING EVERY TIME AND WE CAN'T BE IN A SITUATION WHERE EVERY TIME WE HIRE SOMEONE NEW IN THE MARKET CHANGE WE HAD TO PAY EVERYTHING A PERSON HERE MORE THAN THAT PERSON IS MAKING FOR THAT SPECIFIC JOB . IT IS NOT POSSIBLE. THAT WAS PART OF THE REASON FOR THIS WHOLE SALARY COMPENSATION STUDY WAS TO TRY TO GET TOGETHER WITH SOME IDEA TO MAKE IT BE A PROPER VALUATION AND UNDERSTANDING THAT IT CANNOT BE THE WAY WE OPERATE AND AGAIN GENERALLY WE HAVE PLENTY OF OFFICES MAYBE NOT WITH QUITE WHAT I WOULD CALL A SPECIALIZED JOB DUTY BUT WITH HARD TO HIRE EMPLOYEES. I KNOW ATTORNEYS ARE BEING HARD TO HIRE. THEY ARE HIGHLY PAID AND GETTING HARDER TO HIRE. AND I KNOW WE FACE A SAME SITUATION IN THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE OF THE TIME THAT I HAVE BEEN HERE IS YOU HAVE AN ATTORNEY THAT LEAVES AND THE MARKET IS THERE ANY SAY WELL IT GOT TO OFFER THEM THIS AND THEY WILL BE MAKING MORE MONEY THAT HAVE BEEN WORKING FOR THE COUNTY FOR FIVE OR 10 YEARS SO WHAT ARE WE SUPPOSED TO DO? THIS COMES UP ALL THE TIME AND IS NOTHING NEW. WE HAVE SKILLED EQUIPMENT OPERATORS THAT WE CANNOT HIRE AND IT FUNCTIONS JUST LIKE CRIMINAL JUSTICE AND WE CAN'T DO ROADWORK AND WE ARE SO FAR BEHIND AND IT'S THE SAME

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THEY UNDERSTAND THEIR LIVES AND WHAT THEY HAVE TO DO AND SOME OF THOSE DECISIONS ARE HARD BUT THEY NEED TO MAKE MOREMONEY .

EVEN IF THEY DON'T WANT TO IT IS A CHOICE FOR THEM TO MAKE.

BUT GENERALLY ABOUT IT I DO THINK THAT IT WOULD BE GOOD THAT IF SOMETHING LIKE THIS WENT BEFORE THE COMMITTEE ESPECIALLY WHEN IT IMPACTS OTHER POSITIONS WE MENTION THE DISTRICT COURT REPORTERS WHICH ARE DIFFERENT BECAUSE OF STATUTE. TO MAKE SURE THAT IF THERE IS A COMPROMISE IF THERE IS SOMETHING THAT IS DONE IN EXTENUATING CIRCUMSTANCES OF TRYING TO RETAIN A SPECIALIZED EMPLOYEE THAT YOU MIGHT NOT OTHERWISE BE ABLE TO AT LEAST IS IN THE CONTEXT OF ALL COUNTY EMPLOYEES AND ACROSS THE DEPARTMENT. WE HAVE TRIED TO REDUCE THE LEVEL OF UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES THAT WE WERE TRYING TO CREATE AND THAT'S WHAT'S IMPORTANT ABOUT THE COMMITTEE AND IT IS THEIR RECOMMENDATION AND I WILL PROBABLY THE FIRST ONE ARGUING WITH WHAT THE WRECK CONDITION IS. I THINK IT SHOULD AT LEAST ARE THERE SO EVERYONE INVOLVED CAN CONSIDER IT. IF THERE IS ANOTHER DEPARTMENT OR ELECTED OFFICIAL THAT CAN SAY HOLD ON A SECOND IF YOU BUMP ALL THESE PEOPLE UP WHAT DO YOU THINK MY EMPLOYEES WILL DO: I'VE HAD AN EMPLOYEE HERE FOR 15 YEARS AND THEY'RE GOING TO MAKE MORE THAN THEM AND I'M NOT JUST SAYING COURT REPORTERS IT'S ANY SIMILAR OFFICE. THE FIRST LEVEL THAT THAT SHOULD HAPPEN IT SHOULD AT LEAST HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE SCOTT OPENLY WITHIN DEPARTMENT HAS ELECTED OFFICIALS HR AND BE ABLE TO SAY OKAY MAYBE WE CAN'T SOLVE THIS PERFECTLY AND THAT WILL HAPPEN, TRUST ME. AND WE CAN'T RATE A POLICY THAT'S GOING TO TAKE CARE OF ALL OF THIS STUFF AND WE COULD ARGUEABOUT THAT WITH THESE DISCUSSIONS OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS . THERE'S NO MAGICAL EQUATION ALTHOUGH I WOULD LOVE PFOR THERE TO BE ONE SO WE CAN CREATE ONE AND PLUG IT ALL IN AND IT SOLVES THE PROBLEM BUT IN THIS CASE IT CAN HAPPEN IT HAS TO BE OPEN DIALOGUE IN TERMS OF MANAGING THE EMPLOYEES ANDFUNDING HOW WE PAY FOR IT AND EVERYTHING ELSE AND WHAT IS EQUITABLE ACROSS OUR ORGANIZATION . MY REQUEST IS WE COULD GO THROUGH THAT PROCESS, TAKE ALL THOSE THINGS INTO ACCOUNT AND UNDERSTAND EVERYTHING THAT HAS BEEN MENTIONED WILL BE IN PLUMMETING APLAN . THAT IS WHERE THIS IS GOOD. IT'S GOOD TO HAVE THIS DISCUSSION BECAUSE THERE'S ALWAYS GOING TO BE ONE-OFF.

THE SITUATIONS THAT WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND THAT WE ADOPT A PLA . THERE WAS A STRONG FOCUS ON COUNTY LONGEVITY AND I ARGUED AGAINST THAT TO CERTAIN DEGREE. NOT THAT I AM AGAINST LOYAL EMPLOYEES THE MARKET CHANGES AND CHANGES FAST SOMETIMES.

WHAT WE HAVE SEEN IN THE COURT DECIDED I WAS IN THE MINORITY ON IT WE WOULD JUDGE FOR THE MOST PART THE STEP PLAN BASED ON TIME AND SERVICE WITH THE COUNTY AS A WHOLE. EVEN WITH THE JOB BUT AS A WHOLE. WE WERE PUTTING A HUGE VALUE ON LONGEVITY SO I UNDERSTAND THESE EMPLOYEES ARGUMENTS. I'VE BEEN HERE UNDEREMPLOYMENT FOR SEVERAL YEARS AND SOMEONE GETS MORE THAN ME BUT BY DOING THAT WE COULD CREATE AN UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCE OF HOW DO YOU FILL THAT JOB WHEN SOMEONE LEAVES MAC YOU WILL HAVE SOMEONE WAS ZERO YEARS OF COUNTY EXPERIENCE AND WE HAVE VALUED OUR ENTIRE PEOPLE IN ON COUNTY EXPERIENCE AND THEY WON'T TAKE A JOB FOR COUNTY EXPERIENCE AND THAT'S THE CONUNDRUM THAT WE ARE IN. AGAIN, NO PERFECT SOLUTION AND JUDGE I AGREE YOUR IDEA OF LET'S SIT DOWN AND TALK ABOUT IT WHETHER IT IS IN THIS SESSION OR EMITF THE COMMITTEE THE BEST WAY TO APPROACH THOSE BECAUSE IT WILL BE SO UNIQUE AND THERE'SNOT GOING TO BE A POLICY THAT TAKES INTO ACCOUNT . AS WE GO THROUGH THIS PROCESS WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND THIS WON'T BE THE ONLY TIME IT HAPPENS ESPECIALLY AS THE MARKETS CONTINUE TO CHANGE AND THE AREAS AROUND US ARE GROWING AND WE SPENT OUR MONEY. PUT IT SIMPLE. WE AREGOING TO FACE THE CHALLENGE BUT I THINK IT SHOULD GO THROUGH THE COMMITTEE FIRST . RINGBACK RECOMMENDATION WEATHERS A SHORT TIME SOLUTION WHETHER IT'S FEBRUARY WERE GOING TO TAKE A LOOK AT THIS AND ASK OUR EMPLOYEES TO BE PATIENT AND UNDERSTAND THIS IS SOMETHING NEW TO THE COUNTY. THIS TYPE OF GROWTH AND WHAT WE ARE FACING AND THAT WE HAVE DEDICATED A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF DOLLARSTO EMPLOYEE COMPENSATION OVER THE LAST TWO YEARS. MUCH MORE THAN I HAVE

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SITUATIONS. >> THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER

SMITH? >> I WOULD SAY OF THE THINGS THAT IS WEIGHING HEAVILY ON ME IS A LETTER WE ALL RECEIVED AND IT IS IN THE BACKUP. I CAN ONLY IMAGINE BEING ONE OF THOSE EMPLOYEES SITTING THERE WATCHING COURT NEVER WE APPROVE THE OUTLINE. SAT IN SHOCK WHEN THE NEW POSITION WAS APPROVED AT HIGHER THAN SALARY. THAT IS A CONVERSATION THAT SHOULD PROBABLY BEEN HAD WITH THEM BEFORE THE NEW HIRE. I AM JUST TELLING YOU AS A SUPERVISOR IT'S PROBABLY SOMETHING THAT SHOULD'VE BEEN DONE. I ACCOUNT THREE QUICKLY AND I THINK WE NEED TO RING THIS BACK. I DON'T KNOW JUDGE THIS IS YOUR AGENDA ITEM AS WELL BUT I WOULD PROBABLY RECOMMEND THAT THE GO TO THE COMPENSATION COMMITTEE AND GET A RECOMMENDATION FROM THEM TO COME BACK WITH SOMETHING THAT IS REASONABLE AS FAR AS AN INCREASE OR WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE IN A VERY QUICK MANNER. I DON'T KNOW AND THEY MEET I DON'T KNOW WHATYOUR SCHEDULE IS OR ANYTHING ELSE CAN YOU TELL ME THAT ?

>> I WILL COORDINATE WITH THE JUDGES FOR THE SCHEDULING.

>> CAN I RECOMMEND THAT THAT HAPPENED JUDGE? WOULD YOU BE IN SUPPORT OF THAT? EXCELLENT YOU ARE DONE I WILL GIVEMINE .

>> I AM DONE. I WANT OUR EMPLOYEES BECAUSE I'M SURE THEY ARE WATCHING. I WANT THEM TO KNOW THAT I AGREE THAT THEY NEED A PAY INCREASE AND HOW WE GET THERE SYSTEMATICALLY IS THE CONCERN THAT I HAVE. AND I NEED TO HAVE A BETTER UNDERSTANDING AS WELL AS WHAT WILL HAPPEN IN FEBRUARY THAT THE STEPS THEY WILL BE PLACED IN AND HOW Y'ALL AS INDIVIDUAL SUPERVISORS PROBABLY NEEDS TO BE I DON'T WANT TO SAY BROADCAST BUT COMMUNICATION TO THEM HOW THE MERIT PAY WOULD WORK FOR THEM THE EXTRA POT THAT YOU ALL GET AND HOW YOU ALLWOULD DISTRIBUTE THAT . AND WOULD YOU BASIS SPECIFICALLY ON LONGEVITY? WOULD YOU BASE IT ON YEARS OF SERVICE AND THAT KIND OF THING? THE CONUNDRUM THAT WE HAVE THAT COMMISSIONER SHELL DID A GOOD JOB AT BUT WHENEVER WE HIRE SOMEONE ACED ON THEIR PREVIOUS EXPERIENCE IN THEIR PREVIOUS JOB AND WE SAY YES I HAVE GOT 30 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE SO WE HAVE TO TAKE THATINTO ACCOUNT . IT IS VERY HARD WHEN WE TAKE THAT INTO ACCOUNT BUT WE DON'T PUT AS MUCH EFFORT ON YES BUT THIS EMPLOYEE HAS FIVE YEARS OR 10 YEARS WITH THE COUNTY AND THAT IS WHERE THE RUB IS WITHIN OUR EMPLOYEE BASE AND I DON'T KNOW TOO COMMISSIONER SHELL! I DON'T KNOW THE PERFECT ANSWER TO THAT GIVING THEM EVERY CONSIDERATION FOR THOSE INCREASES I THINK NEEDS TO BE DONE AND IT STARTS WITH THE SALARYCOMMITTEE . I WOULD BE SUPPORTIVE IN WHATEVER I DO TO ENSURE THAT THOSE NUMBERS MATCH UP IF THAT MAKES SENSE.

>> TWO COMMENTS ON YOUR COMMENTS, COMMISSIONER SMITH THEY DO LISTEN AS YOU WELL KNOW AND SO, I AM A WITNESS FRONT ROADSHOW TO THIS WHOLE EXPERIENCE. YOU BEEN PUSHING FOR THE SALARY STUDY. I AM FOREVER GRATEFUL WITH OUR DISTRICT ATTORNEY KELLY HIGGIN . HE AND I SIT ON THE COMMUWE ARE CHAIRING AMONG OTHERS AND PAYING OUR CREW OUR COWORKERS AS MUCH AS WE CAN IS SOMETHING WE HAVE IN COMMON , HE AND I FOR SURE. I'M NOT SAYING THE OTHERS DON'T JUST SAYING HIM BECAUSE HE WAS VOCAL IN THE COMMITTEE HEARING. I HAVE SEEN IN LIENS IN A FINER GRANULATED VERSION OF EVERYTHING THAT YOU ARE LIVING WITH. WE HAVE OVER 1100 EMPLOYEES AND I CALL THEM MY COWORKERS. YOU DO THE SERVICE OF SERVING THE COMMUNITY IN DIFFERENT CAPACITIES BUT THERE ARE THOSE REALITIES THAT YOU HAVE BEEN WORKING FOR THIS THROUGH OUR PROCESS AND SOME OF THESE THINGS DIDN'T MAKE IT INTO THE COMMITTEE MEETING. DIDN'T GET TALKED ABOUT BECAUSE

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>> JUDGE BEFORE YOU DO THAT THERE IS ONE OTHER COMMENT I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE. THERE ARE OTHER CONCERNS OUTLINED IN THAT AWAY FROM PAY IN THAT LETTER THAT WE RECEIVED AND ONE OF THEM IS VERY SPECIFIC THAT THE EQUIPMENT THAT OUR EMPLOYEES USE DOES NOT WORK AND THOSE ARE THINGS THAT NEED TO BE ADDRESSED VERY SPECIFICALLY AND I WOULD HOPE THAT WE CAN GET WITH IT OR WHOEVER AND FIGURE OUT WHAT IS WRONG. I AM MORE THAN HAPPY TO TRY TO FIX THAT AND GET THAT EQUIPMENT WORKING.

THE OTHER THING IS AS WE LOOK AT THIS LIKE I SAID I HAVE TRIED TO DIVE PRETTY DEEP. AS WE LOOK AT THOSE POSITIONS IN OTHER PLACES MOST OF THEM ARE SALARIED . I THINK DISTRICT COURT IS SALARIED AS WELL. LOOKING AT THE STRUCTURE OF THOSE POSITIONS IS VERY IMPORTANT. THESE ARE PROFESSIONALS. I UNDERSTAND THEY ARE PROFESSIONALS AND WANT TO ENSURE THEY ARE PROFESSIONALS AND TREATED AS SUCH. IF THERE IS A STANDARD THAT IS OUT THERE THAT WE ARE NOT MEETING WHEN IT COMES TO THE STRUCTURE OF THE JOB AND THINK WE NEED TO ADDRESS THAT, TOO.

>> ON THE LAST POINT I KNOW THAT IS SOME OF THE SALARY COMPOSITION COMMITTEE IS WORKING ON THAT WITH RESPECT TO THE EQUIPMENT IN THE COURTROOM. Y'ALL DID APPROVE FUNDS FOR ALL OF OUR THREE COURTROOMS AND WE ARE GOING THROUGH THE BID PROCESS TO SPEND THAT MONEY. SO THE COMPLAINTS THAT THE JUDGES HAVE IN THE COURT REPORTERS HAVE AND THE PUBLIC.

I HAD A JUROR WHO IS TO WORK IN CALDWELL COUNTY IN IT SAID THIS IS A JOKE. AND THAT PERSON NOW WORKS FOR HAYS COUNTY IT. YES WE NEED TO BRING ALL OF OUR EQUIPMENT UP FROM 2011 TO TODAY AND WE ARE WORKING ON IT WITH THE FUNDS OF THE COMMISSIONERS COURT AND I THINK YOU FOR THAT .

>> PLEASE CALL ROLL. >> I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THANK YOU ALL FOR LISTENING AND I APPRECIATE THE POSITION YOU ARE ALL IN AND TRYING TO BE PHYSICALLY RESPONSIBLE TO THE TAXPAYERS AND I DO APPRECIATE YOUR CONCERNS WITH REGARD TO THAT AND FOR YOU LISTENING TO WHAT OUR CONCERNS ARE IN REGARDS TO DOING OUR JOB BECAUSE IT IS DIFFICULT IF WE DON'T HAVE THE STAFF WE NEED TO DO A GOOD JOB. I ALSO THINK IT WOULD BE HELPFUL THERE'S A LOT OF CONFUSION ABOUT THIS NEW SALARY PROPOSAL. IT WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL FOR THE DEPARTMET HEADS TO UNDERSTAND WHAT EXACTLY THAT IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE AND TO BE A PART OFTHAT CONVERSATION AS YOU SUGGESTED .

THAT WILL BE VERY HELPFUL AND THANK YOU AGAIN WEAPPRECIATE YOU LISTENING TO US . > JUDGE I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING HERE AND I APPRECIATE BOTH OF YOU ALL IN WHAT YOU DO. I DIDN'T NECESSARILY THINK WE WERE GOING TO TAKE A VOTE BUT IF WE DO I WILL NOT SUPPORT THE INCREASES RIGHT NOW BUT I JUST WANT TO SAY IT'S NOT A DEFINITE NO. I THINK WE HAVE GIVEN DIRECTION THAT A MEETING WILL BE CALLED THE SALARY COMMITTEE AND WE WILL MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT AND HAVE YOUR INPUT ON IT. THANK YOU.

>> PLEASE CALL ROLL. COMMISSIONER GUTIERREZ COHEN, NO, COMMISSIONER SHELL, NO, COMMISSIONER SMITH, YES, COMMISSIONER GONZALES INGALSBE, NO, JUDGE BECERRA, YES. THANK YOU AND WE WILL SEE YOU IN THE SALARY SURVEY. WE WILL TAKE A 10 MINUTE RECESS . THANK YOU.

[I.1. Discussion and possible action to authorize the County Judge to execute a Professional Service Agreement with Lockwood, Andrews and Newnam, Inc. to provide engineering services for improvements at the intersection of Old Stagecoach and Post Road in Precinct 3. SHELL/BORCHERDING]

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>> DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION FOR THE COUNTY JUDGE TO

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>> SO MOVED. >> SECOND.

>> WITH EMOTION AND A SECOND. MISNER'S ANY COMMENTS ON

>> THANK YOU JUDGE THINK YOU ARE FAMILIAR WITH THE ISSUE ON STAGECOACH ROAD IF YOU LOOK AT WHERE THE SOCCER FIELDS ARE THEY ARE BEHIND VISTA AND THAT INTERSECTION IS A BIT -IT FUNCTIONED WELL 50 YEARS AGO BUT IT DOES NOT FUNCTION WELL WITH THE TYPE OF GROWTH AND WE WOULD LIKE TO DESIGN SOME IMPROVEMENTS. I THINK THERE ARE SOME INTERIM IMPROVEMENTS AS SUAS SIGNAGE AND GUARDRAIL B HAS TO BE BROUGHT UP TO MODERN

STANDARDS. >> RIGHT ON. IF THERE IS NOTHING ELSE PLEASE

CALL ROLL. >> COMMISSIONER SHELL, YES, COMMISSIONER GONZALES INGALSBE, YES, COMMISSIONER SMITH, YES

[I.2. Discussion and possible action to authorize the execution of Change Order #1 to the Professional Services Agreement between Hays County and WSB Inc., dated February 1, 2022, to add an additional $38,503.75 to account for design changes related to local input regarding dark sky lighting and the addition of construction phase services, and extend the contract by an additional year. SHELL/BORCHERDING]

DISCUSSION ANDPOSSIBLE ACTION . >> TO AUTHORIZE THE EXECUTION OF CHANGE ORDER #1 TO THE PROFESSIONAL SERVICES AGREEMENT BETWEEN HAYS COUNTY AND WSB INC., DATED FEBRUARY 1, 2022, TO ADD AN ADDITIONAL $38,503.75 TO ACCOUNT FOR DESIGN CHANGES RELATED TO LOCAL INPUT REGARDING DARK SKY LIGHTING AND THE ADDITION OF CONSTRUCTION PHASE SERVICES, AND EXTEND THE

CONTRACT BY AN ADDITIONAL YEAR. >> SO MOVED.

>> SECOND. >> COMMISSIONER?

>> THANK YOU JUDGE. THIS PROJECT IS SOMETHING WE HAVE BEEN WORKING ON. WINTERS MILL. THE IDENTIFIED SAFETY FUNDS WITH TX DOT AND THEY LET US KNOW THAT IF WE WERE ABLE TO DESIGN THE IMPROVEMENT WITH THE LIGHTING IMPROVEMENT ALONG WINTERS MILL THAT THEY WOULD FUND THE INSTALLATION AND CONSTRUCTION OF THE PROJECT. WE HAVE BEEN WORKING ON THAT WSPA HAS BEEN PUTTING PLANS TOGETHER A PART OF THE RESPONSE ABILITY WILL BE SEEING IN ON CONSTRUCTION INSPECTION DURING THE PROJECT. HOWEVER TX DOT WILL PAY FOR THAT INSTALLATION AND IT IS A GREAT DEAL ESPECIALLY SINCE IT IS A COUNTY ROAD. THAT'S THE REASON WE HAVE TO TAKE ON THE CNI BECAUSE THE STATE WOULD BE CONTROL OF CONSTRUCTION.

>> I WANT TO SAY THAT COMMISSIONER IN THAT AREA AND ALL AWAY FROM WIMBERLY TO DRIPPING SPRINGS THEIR DARK SKIES AND INITIATIVES. WE HAVE CONSIDERED EACH ONE OF THOSE PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE UNDER CONSIDERATION IN IT'S IMPORTANT

FOR THOSE COMMUNITIES. >> AND HE HAS BEEN ORGANIZING ALL OF THE READINGS WITH THE DARK SKY COMMITTEE AND MAKING SURE THE DESIGN IS COMPATIBLE WITH THEIR INITIATIVES AND ALSO

PFOR ALL THOSE LIVING NEAR. >> EVERY TIME I GO TO WIMBERLY IN THE EVENING ESPECIALLY I BENEFIT FROM THAT EFFORT AND ENERGY. MR. PORTERFIELD I THINK YOU BECAUSE I LOOKED UP AND I COULD SEE THE STARS. WHAT A GIFT. PLEASE CALL ROLL.

>> COMMISSIONER GUTIERREZ COHEN, YES, COMMISSIONER SHELL,

[I.3. Discussion and possible action to approve a resolution requesting the Texas Department of Transportation (TxDOT) add a segment of Yarrington Road to the State Highway System for ownership and maintenance of the right-of-way as part of the FM 110 North project. INGALSBE/BORCHERDING]

>> AND 27 PLEASE DISCUSSION ANDPOSSIBLE ACTION TO APPROVE A

RESOLUTION . >> REQUESTING THE TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION (TXDOT) ADD A SEGMENT OF YARRINGTON ROAD TO THE STATE HIGHWAY SYSTEM FOR OWNERSHIP AND MAINTENANCE OF THE RIGHT-OF-WAY AS PART OF THE FM

110 NORTH PROJECT. >> SO MOVED.

>> SECOND. >> COMMISSIONER?

>> JUDGE THIS IS A PORTION OF THE ROAD THAT IS CONSIDERED F1 10. THE STATE ASKED THAT WE PROVIDE THIS AGENDA ITEM SO THEY CAN TAKE OVER THE MAINTENANCE OF THAT SECTION.

>> THANK YOU COMMISSIONER PLEASE CALL ROLL.

>> COMMISSIONER SMITH, YES, COMMISSIONER GUTIERREZ COHEN,

[I.4. Discussion and possible action to approve an Advance Funding Agreement Amendment #1 for the District Safety Program On-System for the RM 3237 Intersection Improvements and authorize the County Judge to execute the Advance Funding Agreement Amendment #1 on behalf of Hays County. SHELL/BORCHERDING]

YES, JUDGE BECERRA, YES. >> I4 .

>> DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO APPROVE AN ADVANCE FUNDING AGREEMENT AMENDMENT #1 FOR THE DISTRICT SAFETY PROGRAM ON-SYSTEM FOR THE RM 3237 INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENTS AND AUTHORIZE THE COUNTY JUDGE TO EXECUTE THE ADVANCE FUNDING AGREEMENT AMENDMENT #1 ON BEHALF OF HAYS COUNTY.

>> SO MOVED. >> SECOND.

>> COMMISSIONER? >> THIS IS THE EXACT FUNDING DEVELOPMENT IN THE COUNTY WILL SEE THIS IS FOR DESIGN IMPROVEMENT. THIS WAS AT 3237 BUT THE STATE IS PICKING UP THE CONSTRUCTION COST WHICH HAS BEEN IDENTIFIED UNDER 6MILLION . THE INVESTMENT IN THE DESIGN WILL GO TO A GOOD PROJECT OF THE STATE WILL COMPLETE FOR US WHICH IS THE IDEAL WAY TO THE IDEAL WAY IS WE PAY NOTHING BUT WE CAN CONTINUE TO WORK ON THOSE BUT THESE ARE GOOD TO HAVE IN THE STATE DOES PICK IT

UP. >> CAN YOU REPEAT THAT, $6

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MILLION? >> $6 MILLION OF CONSTRUCTION.

WE HAVE DESIGNED PHASE I SEVERAL INTERSECTIONS AND IMPROVEMENTS TO SHOULDERS AND IN THAT PROCESS WE ARE IN THE COMPLETION OF PHASE II AND TX DOT SHOWING THEIR EFFORT IN GETTING THESE PROJECTS WHAT WE PCALL SHOVEL READY OR CLOSE TO SHOVEL READY DESIGN. THAT INITIATIVE IS STARTING TO WORK FOR US. MAYBE EIGHT YEARS AGO THERE WASN'T SO MUCH OF THAT BUT NOW WE ARE SEEING THE INFLUX OF TRANSPORTATION DOLLARSTO THE STATE WHERE GOES LOCALLY AND FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT THAT IF WE HAVE PROJECTS THAT ARE READY TO GO THAT ARE IMPROVING SAFETY ON THEIR ROAD OR OUR ROAD WE CAN

CONSTE THAT. >> THAT IS A MAGNIFICENT REMINDER OF THESE AFA ADVANCED FUNDING AGREEMENT. IT IS A MAGNIFICENT WAY FOR US TO GET OUR TAX DOLLARSAT A STATE LEVEL BACK DOWN TO NOT ONLY THE LOCAL LEVEL BUT WHERE THE COMMISSIONER SEES THE NEED THE MOST TO MAKE THESE PROJECTS SHOVEL READY. COMMISSIONER SHELL I THANK YOU FOR CONTINUING TO GET SHOVEL READY PROJECTS ALL PUSHTOWARDS WE CAN CAPTURE THIS ENERGY AND MOMENTUM . I THINK YOU A LOT

WELL DONE. PLEASE CALL ROLL. >> COMMISSIONER GONZALES

[I.5. Discussion and possible action to approve the selection of Cobb, Fendley & Associates, Inc. to provide utility coordination services for RM 2325 Sidewalks project in Precinct 3; and authorize staff and counsel to negotiate a contract. SHELL/BORCHERDING]

TRAN 29. DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION .

>> TO APPROVE THE SELECTION OF COBB, FENDLEY AND ASSOCIATES, INC. TO PROVIDE UTILITY COORDINATION SERVICES FOR RM 2325 SIDEWALKS PROJECT IN PRECINCT 3; AND AUTHORIZE STAFF AND COUNSEL TO NEGOTIATE A CONTRACT.

>> SO MOVED. >> SECOND.

>> COMMISSIONER? >> THANK YOU JUDGE. THIS PROJECT 2325 WITH THE INTERSECTION OF RANCH ROAD WHERE WIMBERLY IS TO THE HIGH SCHOOL AND DOWN A LITTLE BIT INTO TOWN WAS IDENTIFIED SEVERAL YEARS AGO AS A MUCH NEEDED FOR PEDESTRIAN IMPROVEMENTS. A LOT OF STUDENTS WALK ALONG THAT ROAD AND SO WE PUT TOGETHER A TEAM TO PUT SOME CONCEPTS TOGETHER AND APPLY FOR GRANTS FOR CONSTRUCTION THROUGH THE OLD SAFE ROUTES TO SCHOOL PROGRAM THROUGH TX DOT. OUR REQUIREMENT AGAIN IS TO DESIGN THE IMPROVEMENT AND PART OF THAT WILL REQUIRE SOME TILLY COORDINATION OR A LOT OF UTILITIES ALONG THE SIDE OF 23 25. PART OF OUR RESPONSE ABILITY WILL BE TO COORDINATE WITH THOSE ARE SAID AND DONE IT WILL BE CONSTRUCTED.

>> THAT IS BEAUTIFUL. SOME FOLKS ARGUE IF YOU BUILD A SIDEWALK YOU CAN'T TAKE THE BUS. WALKING TO SCHOOL COULD BE BETTER FOR THE CLOSE PROXIMITY.

>> IT IS TRULY A DANGEROUS AREA NOT ONLY FOR STUDENTS BUT DURING THE WEEKEND WHEN WE HAVE MARKET DAYS THE TRAFFIC IS COMING THROUGH TOWN AND SOME PEOPLE PARK FAR AWAY AND THEY HAVE TO WALK THERE THERE'S NOTHING BUT AN EDGE OF THE PAYMENT. I THINK IT WILL ALL IMPROVE THE WALK ABILITY NOT JUST FOR STUDENTS BUT ALSO FOR VISIT IITORS IN THE AREA.

>> AND THAT'S WHAT I AM THINKING ABOUT. IT HAS BEEN AND WILL CONTINUE TO GROW AS LOCALS MIGHT NOT LIKE IT BUT A TOURIST DESTINATION. UPPER INFRASTRUCTURES FOR THE PEDESTRIAN SPACE WILL ABSOLUTELY HELP OUR BOTTOM LINE AS A COUNTY DROPPING THOSE TAX DOLLARSIN WHEN THEY VISITS ONCE

AGAINPLEASE CALL ROLL . >> COMMISSIONER SMITH, YES,

[I.6. Discussion and possible action to consider the release of the subdivision bond #ES00012802 in the amount of $2,174,384.25 for Headwaters at Barton Creek, Phase 3. SMITH/BORCHERDING]

YES. >> BEXAR COUNTY I6 PLEASE.

>> DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO CONSIDER THE RELEASE OF THE SUBDIVISION BOND #ES00012802 IN THE AMOUNT OF $2,174,384.25 FOR HEADWATERS AT BARTON CREEK, PHASE 3.

>> SO MOVED. >> SECOND.

>> NO DISCUSSION JUST THE RELEASE OF THE BOND FOR THE FINAL BOND PHASE III FOR THE HEADWATERS.

>> PLEASE CALL ROLL . >> COMMISSIONER GONZALES INGALSBE, YES, COMMISSIONER SHELL, YES, COMMISSIONER SMITH, YES, COMMISSIONER GONZALES INGALSBE, YES, JUDGE BECERRA,

[I.8. Discussion and possible action to consider the release of the Letter of Credit #20234030 in the amount of $48,344.00 for 6 Creeks, Phase 1, Section 12. SHELL/BORCHERDING]

YES. LET'S GO TO I8. >> ISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO CONSIDER THE RELEASE OF THE LETTER OF CREDIT #20234030 IN THE AMOUNT OF $48,344.00 FOR 6 CREEKS, PHASE

1, SECTION 12. >> SO MOVED.

>> SECOND. >> PLEASE CALL ROLL.

>> COMMISSIONER GUTIERREZ COHEN, YES, COMMISSIONER GONZALES INGALSBE, YES, COMMISSIONER SMITH, YES,

[G.11. Approve the appointments of the following individuals to the Capitol Area Metropolitan Planning Authority Technical Advisory Committee: Winton Porterfield as primary member and Marti Reich as alternate, and Angela Kennedy as the Small Cities primary member and Aaron Reed as the Small Cities alternate member. INGALSBE/SMITH/BORCHERDING]

>> LET'S LOOK AT G 11. >> G 11 APPROVE THE APPOINTMENTS OF THE FOLLOWING INDIVIDUALS TO THE CAPITAL AREA PSUCH A POLITICIAN PLANNING AUTHORITY TECHNICAL ADVISORY

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>> SO MOVED. >> A MOTION AND A SECOND? ANY COMMENTS?

>> NO JUDGE THIS IS A REAPPOINTMENT OF THESE INDIVIDUALS AND I THINK JARED I HAVE SERVED IN THE PAST AS A MEMBER AND THIS IS JUST A POINT WHERE HE WENT TO FULFILL HIS POSITION. THE OTHER APPOINTMENTS ON THERE ARE STANDARD THE SAME STANDARD ONES THAT WE HAVE HAD IN THE PAST AND REPRESENT SEVERAL COMMUNITIES.

>> COMMISSIONER GONZALES INGALSBE ANY COMMENTS?

>> NO JUDGE. >> PLEASE CALL ROLL.

>> COMMISSIONER SHELL, YES, COMMISSIONER SMITH, YES,

[K.1. Discussion and possible action to authorize the execution of Work Authorization #4 in the amount of $136,930.73 between Hays County and Halff Associates, Inc. related to the 2020 Parks and Open Space Bond Program Master Services Agreement and amend the budget accordingly. INGALSBE/T.CRUMLEY]

COHEN, YES JUDGE BECERRA, YES. >> K-1.

>> DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO AUTHORIZE THE EXECUTION OF WORK AUTHORIZATION #4 IN THE AMOUNT OF $136,930.73 BETWEEN HAYS COUNTY AND HALFF ASSOCIATES, INC. RELATED TO THE 2020 PARKS AND OPEN SPACE BOND PROGRAM MASTER SERVICES AGREEMENT AND AMEND THE BUDGET ACCORDINGLY.

>> SO MOVED. >> SECOND.

>> SIR, THIS IS EXTREMELY NEBULOUS WITH THE SCOPE OF WHAT THEY ARE TRYING TO DO. I DO HAVE PHASE FEES EXHIBIT B.

YOU'VE GOT PROJECT ADMINISTRATION, $5964.34.

GENERAL PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT THAT IS REAL. THIS SOUNDS LIKE WHAT COMES OUT OF THE SOUTH INTO OF A NORTHBOUND BOWL. ANYWAY, GENERAL PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT $68,601.83. SITE INVENTORY AND ANALYSIS. 8067 AND $0.45. UNCOVERING THE COMMUNITY VISION. BOY. WE NEED THAT. THAT IS A GREAT ONE.

$12,947.06. PARK MASTER PLANNING AND CONSENSUSBUILDING.

14,000 $0.50. CONCEPTUAL MASTER PLAN AND FINAL CONCEPTUAL MASTER PLAN ADOPTIO . SUBTOTAL 135,100 9082 5000 SIX WERE REIMBURSABLE EXPENSES ALLOWANCE. WHICH MEANS JUST FOR PUTTING IT TOGETHER I CAN'T SAY IT. ANYWAY, THIS IS RIDICULOUS. ONCE AGAIN I DON'T THINK PEOPLE KNEW THEY WERE VOTING FOR ALL OF THESE EXPENSES WHEN THEY VOTED FOR MORE PARKS AND OPEN SPACES. WE DO NOT HAVE TRUTH IN ADVERTISEMENT WHEN YOU PUT UP THESE BONDS HOW MUCH WILL BE WASTED ON GARBAGE LIKE THIS. WHAT CAN I SAY. AND I KNOW YOU WILL APPROVE IT BUT THERE GOES MONEY THAT COULD'VE GONE WERE THE COURT REPORTERS. SO THEY CAN SHOO OVER THAT ONE FOR A WHILE. I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME.

>> THE BOND CAREFULLY CRAFTED AND WRITTEN SO THE MONEY ONLY GOES TO THOSE PROJECTS AND NOT COURT REPORTERS. COMMISSIONER

GONZALES INGALSBE? >> THINKS JUDGE. THIS WOULD ENGAGE ASSOCIATES TO START KEEPS UPON PROJECT THEY WOULD DEVELOP A MASTER PLAN. I KNOW THE COURT HAS TALKED ABOUT WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE AND WE TALKED ABOUT TRAILS AND FISHING PROGRAM WITH POSSIBLE PEERS AND BOARDWALKS. A PLAYGROUND AND OTHER AMENITIES AS OUTLINED IN THECONTRACT . BUT WE WILL ALSO CONDUCT PUBLIC MEETINGS TO RECEIVE INPUT FROM THE COMMUNITY WHICH JUDGE, I KNOW THAT IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT FOR ALL OF US. I KNOW WE NEED THAT COMMITMENT FROM THE COMMUNITY AND WHAT THEY ENVISION FOR THE SPARK. THIS WILL BE A COUNTY PARK SO IT'S IMPORTANT TO GET PTHEIR UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT THEYBELIEVE THIS IS ABOUT . THEN WE WILL COME BACK TO THE COMMISSIONERS COURT FOR PRESENTATION AND AT THAT TIME WE WOULD LIKE THE COURT TO ADOPT THE PLAN AS WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THE CREATION OF THIS PARK. WE DO HAVE ASSOCIATES HERE IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS OR IF THEY NEED TO DETAIL OR EXPLAIN IN MORE DETAIL SOME OF THE SCOPE THEY ARE CERTAINLY HERE TO EXPLAIN THAT IF WE NEED THEM.

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>> COMMISSIONER, I AM SO GLAD YOU ARE PUSHING THIS BECAUSE IT IS SOMETHING THAT YOUR PRECINCT WILL DEFINITELYBENEFIT FROM GREATLY SO THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT FORWARD .

>> YOU ARE WELCOME. JUDGE THE OTHER THING IS WE HAVE HAD SEVERAL CALLS BECAUSE OFTHE CONDITION OF CAPES POND .

AARON JONES WITH THE TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT IS WORKING ON GETTING SOME PROPOSALS TO STEPHANIE SO WE CAN COME TO COURT AND HAVE THAT LAND CLEARED AND PUT IN A MUCH BETTER STATE. SO THAT IS IN THE WORKS.

>> BEAUTIFUL THANK YOU COMMISSIONER. ANY OTHER

COMMENTS? >> WHETHER SOMEONE AGREES WITH THE PROJECT OR NOT IS COMPLETELY UNDERSTANDABLE. I DO THINK IT IS AN EXTREMELY IMPORTANT PROJECT FOR THE AREA AND THEY ARE DOING A GREAT JOB IN THE AREA IN THE CITY. THEY SHOULD HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO THESE TYPES OF FACILITIES AND OUTDOOR OPPORTUNITIES. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR THATREASON .

IT IS A GREAT PROPERTY AND GREAT LOCATION AND VERY GOOD FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE AND IT WILL CONNECT PEOPLE TO DIFFERENT AREAS OF SAN MARCO'S. AS I MENTIONED BEFORE WHEN I WAS A KID I COULD RIDE MY BIKE AROUND THE AREA BUT YOU CAN'T DO THAT ANYMORE. A LOT OF OUR YOUTH THAT LIVE IN NEIGHBORHOODS ADJACENT TO THIS CAN HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO GET ON THEIR BIKE AND RIDE ONTHE RIVER AND IT'S IMPORTANT FOR THAT REASON . I DID WANT TO SAY THAT I DO THINK THAT THE AGREEMENT IS DETAILED AND EXPLAINS EACH ONE OF THOSE TASKS THAT WILL BE COMPLETED AND I UNDERSTAND SOME MIGHT NOT TAKE THE VALUE THAT SOME COURTS DO AND OTHERS DO ON THIS PROJECT BUT I THINK THE AGREEMENT EXPLAINS IN PRETTY GOOD DETAIL HOW EACH ONEOF THOSE TASKS CAN BE ACCOMPLISHED. THOSE ARE IMPORTANT TASKS IN A PROJECT THE SIZE TO GET IT RIGHT . I WISH IT DID NOT COST $130,000. I WISH IT COSTS 5 DOLLARS. OF

COURSE. >> OR FOR FREE!

>> BUT OUR VOTERS DID SUPPORT THIS AND WAS DONE IN THE BEST WAY POSSIBLE I THINK IT IS WORTH THAT INVESTMENT AND IT LOOKS LIKE THEY COVER THE STEPS.

>> WELL DONE. IF NOTHING ELSE PLEASE CALL ROLL.

>> COMMISSIONER GUTIERREZ COHEN, YES, COMMISSIONER SMITH, YES, COMMISSIONER GONZALES INGALSBE, YES, COMMISSIONER SHELL, YES, JUDGE BECERRA, YES.

>> THIS IS MY AGENDA ITEM BUT I DO SEE THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT

HERE FOR K2. >> ALRIGHT LET'S GO TO K2.

[K.2. Discussion and possible action to change the name of the Hays County Local Health Department to Hays County Health Department. INGALSBE/COHEN/T.CRUMLEY]

>> . >> IT MAKES PERFECT SENSE. I AM SO GRATEFUL THAT THIS EDIT CLEANUP HAS BEEN PROPOSED. I ALWAYS WAIT BECAUSE I NEVER KNOW WHO IS HERE AND WE WAIT FOR THE AGENDA ITEM TO OPEN AND THAT IS WHY I ASKED THE COMMISSIONER TO IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT. IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION FOR THE PUBLIC?

>> .HAVE HEARD FROM EVERY NAME FROM THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT OVER THE LAST TWO YEARS AND EVEN INTERNALLY WE GET A CALL FOR SOMETHING DIFFERENT EVERY SINGLE DAY SO I THINK STREAMLINING THAT TO A'S COUNTY HEALTH DEPARTMENT WILL HELP THAT A LOT. WE ARE ORDERING NEW STUFF WITH OUR NEW LOCATION ADDRESS ON IT AND OUR SIGN OUT FRONT SAYS HAYES COUNTY HEALTH DEPARTMENT. US NOT TO HAVE TO ORDER EXTRA SIGNAGE TO SAY LOCAL WOULD BE VERY BENEFICIAL. THERE'S ALSO SOME STATE CONTRACTS THAT REFER TO US AS HAYES COUNTY HEALTH DEPARTMENT.

>> THEY WERE AHEAD OF US A LITTLE BIT. WE WERE CRYSTAL

BAWLING IT. MATT. >> SEMINAR SYSTEM WERE CALLED PUBLIC HEALTH AND THERE IS A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT ONES.

>> BEAUTIFUL. AND I AM SURE THAT VICKI OR OUR HEALTH DEPARTMENT DOES NOT SEE A SHIFT?

>> WE REACHED OUT TO DHS AND THERE WAS NOT AN ISSUE.

>> PERFECT. ANY OTHER COMMENTS? ALL RIGHT YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME ON THIS FRONT. PLEASE CALL ROLL.

>> COMMISSIONER SMITH, YES, COMMISSIONER GONZALES INGALSBE,

[Items G.1 - G.10,G.12,G.13]

LET'S START WITH THIS. WE CAN GO ALL THE WAY TO 13. OF COURSE WE HAVE ALREADY OPENED 11.

>> G1 APPROVE PAYMENTS OF COUNTY INVOICES. G2 APPROVE PAYMENT OF CHURCH ACTS. G3 APPROVE THE PAYMENT OF UNITED HEALTHCARE CLAIMS. G4 APPROVE COMMISSIONERS COURT MINUTES FROM OCTOBER 24, 2023. G5 APPROVE THE PAYMENT OF THE

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AUTHORIZE A BUDGET AMENDMENT FOR THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT IN THE AMOUNT OF $414.00 TO MOHAWK MEDICAL MALL FOR SHIPPING COSTS ON TWO MEDICAL EXAM TABLES AND AMEND THE BUDGET ACCORDINGLY.

9. AUTHORIZE A REVISION TO THE TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF STATE HEALTH SERVICES (DSHS) HEALTH EQUITY GRANT BUDGET, ADDING TWO ADDITIONAL INTERN POSITIONS TO THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT, AND AMEND THE BUDGET ACCORDINGLY. 10. AUTHORIZE PAYMENT TO RICK'S LOCK AND KEY IN THE AMOUNT OF $1,228.90 FOR ADDITIONAL LOCKS AND CORES NEEDED FOR THE ELECTION IT BUILDING REMODEL.

11. APPROVE THE APPOINTMENTS OF THE FOLLOWING INDIVIDUALS TO THE CAPITOL AREA METROPOLITAN PLANNING AUTHORITY TECHNICAL ADVISORY COMMITTEE: WINTON PORTERFIELD AS PRIMARY MEMBER AND MARTI REICH AS ALTERNATE, AND ANGELA KENNEDY AS THE SMALL CITIES PRIMARY MEMBER AND AARON REED AS THE SMALL CITIES ALTERNATE MEMBER. 12. AUTHORIZE BUILDING MAINTENANCE TO PURCHASE A NEW TORNADO FLOOR SCRUBBER IN THE AMOUNT OF $1,478.13 AND AMEND THE BUDGET ACCORDINGLY. 13. APPROVE THE RESOLUTION AMENDING AUTHORIZED REPRESENTATIVES FOR THE TAX

OFFICE TEXPOOL ACCOUNT. >> SO MOVED.

>> SECOND. >> NO COMMENTS COMMISSIONERS

PLEASE CALL ROLL. >> COMMISSIONER SMITH, YES, COMMISSIONER SHELL, YES, COMMISSIONER GONZALES INGALSBE, YES, COMMISSIONER GUTIERREZ COHEN, YES. JUDGE BECERRA, YES. I WAS WAITING FOR SOMEONE TO PLEASE CALL MY NAME.

[G.14. Authorize the execution of the Third Amendment to the Interlocal Cooperation Agreement between Hays County and Comal County for Jail Services, effective January 1, 2024. SHELL/CUTLER]

[LAUGHTER] PLEASE OPEN G 14. P>> 14. AUTHORIZE THE EXECUTIO OF THE THIRD AMENDMENT TO THE INTERLOCAL COOPERATION AGREEMENT BETWEEN HAYS COUNTY AND COMAL COUNTY FOR JAIL SERVICES, EFFECTIVE JANUARY 1, 2024.

>> SO MOVED. >> SECOND.

>> COMMISSIONER DAN LYONS THE TIMER IS TAKING.

>> I APPRECIATE YOU STARTING. >> OF COURSE THAT'S THE WAY IT

WORKS. >> THANK YOU. WE ARE TOLD IS MORE ECONOMICAL TO ASK FOR INMATES RATHER THAN TO HOUSE THEM OURSELVES. WHAT IS THE DOLLAR AMOUNT TO OUTSOURCE THIS IS NO LONGER TRUE. ANYWAY THIS IS TO CHANGE ARTICLE III SECTION 1 PER DIEM RATE IS AMENDED AS FOLLOWS. THE PER DIEM RING FOR DETENTION SERVICES UNDER THIS AGREEMENT Y'ALL GOT MARKED OUT $100 AND THEN PUT IN ITS PLACE AS 108 DOLLARS. I ALWAYS THOUGHT WHEN YOU SIGNED A CONTRACT IT WAS FOR A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF TIME IN ORDER TO RENEGOTIATE THE CONTRACT YOU WOULD HAVE TO WAIT FOR THE END OF THE CONTRACT TO SIGN. BUT APPARENTLY IT'S NOT TRUE FROM WHAT YOU SEE HERE.

IT LOOKS LIKE RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE GAME YOU'RE GOING FROM 108 -$100-$108 PER DAY. I CERTAINLY DON'T KNOW HOW WE COULD MANAGE IN THE JAIL HERE WE COULD MANAGE MORE THAN ONE AT 8 DOLLARS PER INMATE IS MIND-BOGGLING TO ME BUT Y'ALL SAY IT IS TRUE. THE WHOLE JAIL HAS BEEN A MESS AND EVERYBODY KNOWS IT. POORLY DESIGNED FROM THE START POORLY EXECUTED THEY OFFER NO GUARANTEED ON THEIR STUFF. BUT, Y'ALL WENT AHEAD AND VOTED FOR. BUT ANYWAY, GETTING BACK TO THIS I WOULD APPRECIATE IT IF YOU ANSWERED MY TWO QUESTIONS. THANK YOU

VERY MUCH. >> THINK YOU JUDGE AND I THINK IT IS A GOOD QUESTION. THERE IS COST ASSOCIATED WITH THE HOUSING OF INMATES OBVIOUSLY BESIDES A PER DIEM WE PAY FOR OUTSOURCING. AND IN MOST OF OUR CONTRACTS I WOULD SAY ALL BUT ONE WITH THE OTHER FACILITIES THEY CAN PRETTY MUCH NOT TAKE THEM AT ANY GIVEN DAY. SO IF THE COUNTY SAYS WERE NOT GOING TO TAKE ANYMORE THEY CAN JUST SAY WERE NOT GOING TO TAKE ANYMORE. THEY ARE DEFINITELY IN THE STRONG POSITION OF THESE AGREEMENT BECAUSE THEY ARE EXCEPT THIS AND THEY DON'T HAVE TO. WHAT THE TRUE COST OF THE HOUSING INMATE IN HERE LOCALLY IS A BIT COMPLICATED TO CALCULATE. IT IS NOT JUST YOU

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YOU CAN HAVE SUPPORT SERVICES THAT ARE NOT IN THE JAIL BUT IT IS A LITTLE BIT COMPLICATED. DO I STILL BELIEVE THAT $108 AND HAVING AN AGREEMENT LIKE THIS WITH THE COUNTY ESPECIALLY WHEN STAFFING OF OUR FACILITY IS A NUMBER 1 REASON CAN'T OPERATE AT FULL CAPACITY. IT IS NOT THE FACILITY IS THE STAFFING . IF OTHER COUNTIES HAVE ENOUGH STAFFING TO OPERATE AND HOLD 20 OR 30 OF OUR INMATES WHICH I BELIEVE THE COUNTY IS DOING RIGHT NOW AND KAMAL COUNTY BEING CLOSE I BELIEVE IT'S GOOD TO HAVE A CONTRACT WITH THEM BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY THE TRANSPORTATION COSTS FOLDED INTO OUR COST THE LIABILITY OF TRANSPORTING DEFENDANTS FROM ONE PLACE TO THE NEXT AND THE LONGER YOU GO THE BIGGER CHANCE THERE IS THAT MAYBE SOMETHING GOES WRONG. I THINK IT IS A GOOD PLACE TO HAVEAN AGREEMENT WITH AND THE COST IS REASONABLE . AGAIN I WISH IT DID EXIST BUT THEY JUST SAID OKAY HERE, BRING IT OVER AND WE DON'T HAVE TO PAY FOR IT BUT THAT IS NOT THE CASE. WE ARE MANAGING OUR POPULATION VERY WELL I WOULD SAY. THERE ARE ABOUT 43 TODAY AND WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT THAT WELL OVER 650 CLOSE TO 700 AT THIS TIME MAYBE A YEAR AGO OR 18 MONTHS AGO AT LEAST WE ARE TRENDING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION. WE WENT TO SUMMER AND MAYBE GOT TO 580 ON A GIVEN DAY IT IS SHOWING THAT THINGS ARE WORKING WHEN HE GO BACK TO THE DISCUSSION OF PRETRIAL. MY SENSE WILL CONTINUE TO BE WE NEED TO KEEP WORKING ON THOSE EFFORTS TO TRY TO CREATE A SYSTEM THAT IS SO EFFICIENT THAT WE REDUCE THE NEED FOR OUTSOURCING IN GENERAL AND THAT WOULD SOLVE THE QUESTION. I THINK AT THIS TIME IT IS STILL A REASONABLE CHARGE ESPECIALLY TO AN ADJACENT

COUNTY. >> THANK YOU COMMISSIONER FOR THE COMPLETE EXPLANATION. DID YOU GET TO HEAR THAT MR. LYON, THAT WAS FOR YOU. OKAY PLEASE CALL ROLL.

>> COMMISSIONER GONZALES INGALSBE, YES, COMMISSIONER

[Items G.15 - G.17,G.19 - G.20, G.22 - G.27]

>> I HAVE ?KS COMMISSIONER SHELL TO PULL 18 INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION. BESIDES THAT ONE AND 21 THAT WE HAVE PULLED PLEASE

OPEN THE REST. >> 15. RECEIVE AND RATIFY THE FINALIZED PURCHASE AGREEMENT BETWEEN HAYS COUNTY AND THE HILL COUNTRY LAND RESERVE, LLC. RELATED TO PARKS AND OPEN SPACE BOND PROJECT 16. AUTHORIZE THE EXECUTION OF AN ANNUAL RENEWAL AGREEMENT BETWEEN HAYS COUNTY AND SAMSARA IN THE AMOUNT OF $11,700.00 FOR CONTINUED ACCESS TO THE GPS TRACKING SYSTEM USED FOR VEHICLES UNDER COUNTYWIDE OPERATIONS. 17. ACCEPT DELIVERY OF THE AUDITOR'S OFFICE QUARTERLY INTERNAL EXAMINATION REPORTS. 18. AUTHORIZE THE COUNTY JUDGE TO EXECUTE A PROPOSAL FROM SECURITY ONE INC. FOR THE PURCHASE AND INSTALLATION OF TWO ADDITIONAL SECUITY CAMERAS FOR THE ELECTIONS IT BUILDING IN THE AMOUNT OF $4,524.18 AND AMEND THE BUDGET ACCORDINGLY. 9. APPROVE UTILITY PERMITS. 20.

AUTHORIZE THE COUNTY JUDGE TO EXECUTE A CONTRACT RENEWAL WITH TRANSUNION FOR INVESTIGATIVE PURPOSES FOR THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE, WITH A PROPOSED PRICE INCREASE OF $168.00 MONTHLY.

21. AUTHORIZE THE EXECUTION OF A RESOLUTION AND THE SUBMISSION OF A GRANT APPLICATION TO THE CAPITAL AREA COUNCIL OF GOVERNMENTS, FY24 SOLID WASTE GRANT PROGRAM IN THE AMOUNT OF $18,298.00. 22. AUTHORIZE THE EXECUTION OF A GENERAL AND NO LITIGATION CERTIFICATE OF HAYS RELATED TO THE ISSUANCE OF BONDS BY CAPITAL AREA HOUSING FINANCE CORPORATION FOR REDWOOD APARTMENTS, HAYS COUNTY, TEXAS. 23. APPROVE THE IT AND ELECTIONS DEPARTMENT TO PURCHASE A REFRIGERATOR AND MICROWAVE FOR THE NEW IT-ELECTIONS BUILDING, TOTAL NOT TO EXCEED $950.00. 24. APPROVE AND ACCEPT THE OFFICIAL OATH AND SET THE REQUIRED BOND AMOUNT FOR THE NEWLY APPOINTED JUSTICE OF THE PEACE, PCT. 25. AUTHORIZE A DISCRETIONARY EXEMPTION PER TEXAS LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE 262.024 (A)(7)(D) CAPTIVE REPLACEMENT PARTS OR COMPONENTS FOR EQUIPMENT, FOR THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE, JAIL DIVISION TO PURCHASE SOFTWARE FOR EMPLOYEE ENTRY ACCESS AT THE PUBLIC SAFETY BUILDING AND JAIL FACILITY. 26. AUTHORIZE REIMBURSEMENT TO TERRI VAN ACKEREN FOR VENUE RENTAL FEES AT DRIPPING SPRINGS RANCH PARK RELATED TO A COMMUNITY FORUM HELD ON OCTOBER 2, 2023. 27. ADOPT A RESOLUTION SUPPORTING A

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EXECUTE SUCH MUA. >> SO MOVED.

>> MR. DAN LYONS PLEASE APPROACH THE PODIUM FOR G 27.

>> THANK YOU JUDGE BECERRA. THIS THING ABOUT INSTALLING THESE LICENSE PLATE RECOGNITION DETECTORS, THIS IS GOING TO BRING UP A NUMBER OF QUESTIONS ABOUT PRIVACY AND LIKE THAT. I ALSO HAD PEOPLE ASK ME, I WAS DISCUSSING IT WITH OTHER PEOPLE IN THE ASKED ME WHAT ABOUT ALL OF THESE FAKE PAPER LICENSE PLATES THEY GIVE? I'M NOT NEARLY AS CONCERNED ABOUT PEOPLE PERHAPS I SEE IT ALL THE TIME WHERE PEOPLE RUN RED LIGHTS. I DON'T THINK I'M ONLY THE ONE IN THE COUNTY THAT'S BEEN CAUGHT FOR THAT AND IT WASN'T ON PURPOSE BUT THAT'S ANOTHER STORY. I'M NOT EVEN SURE WHAT IS BEING LOOKED FOR HERE WHEN WE ARE SETTING UP THESE PLATE RECOGNITION THINGS.

WE KNOW GOT A SERIOUS PROBLEM WITH DRUG DEALERS IN THIS COUNTY. WE GOT A SERIOUS PROBLEM WITH ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION HERE IN THIS COUNT . NOTHING SEEMS TO BE DONE ABOUT THAT. SO JUST WHAT ARE YOU SNOOPING FOR? LET ME PUT IT TO YOU THIS WAY. THIS IS WHAT I'M REALLY CONCERNED ABOU . CITIZENS FEEL THAT THEY ARE THE ONES THAT ARE UNDER THE MICROSCOPE HERE AND THE CRIMINALS ARERUNNING WILD . WE OUGHT TO REALLY HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING ON THIS WHERE THE PUBLIC CAN GET UP AND SAY WHAT THEY THINK. THANK YOU VERY

MUCH. >> COMMISSIONER SMITH?

>> THINK YOU JUDGE. IF YOU LOOK WE HAVE AN EXISTING CONTRACT FOR THESE DEVICES ON THE COUNTY ROADWAYS. THIS JUST EXPANDS THE MOU AT THE REQUEST OF OUR DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE AND OUR SHERIFF'S OFFICE TO BE ABLE TO ALLOW FOR THE INSTALLATION OF THE SAME DEVICES HERE ON STATE ROADS IN THE COUNTY. SPEAKING OF LAW ENFORCEMENT ESPECIALLY WITH THE TRAFFIC VOLUME WE SEE ON AREAS LIKE TO 90 ON AREAS LIKE THE EXPANDED ARTERIALS THAT WE HAVE ON THE WESTERN AND EASTERN SIDES OF THE COUNTY THEY WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THE ABILITY TO HAVE THIS LICENSE PLATE TECHNOLOGY. ONE THING THAT THEY HAVE LOOKED AT IS AS THEY HAVE THOSE COMING INTO THE COUNTY IF THERE IS A VEHICLE THAT HAS BEEN TAGGED AS FAR AS WE KNOW THE OWNER OF THAT HAS WARRANTS. WE KNOW THE OWNER OF THAT HAS CERTAIN THINGS AS THEY ENTER THE COUNTY AND IT IS RECOGNIZED. WE CAN POSSIBLY BE ABLE TO PICK UP OR STOP THOSE PEOPLE AS THEY GO THROUGH THE SYSTEM. RIGHT NOW HAVE THE ABILITY ON THE COUNTY ROAD AND THAT IS THE GENERAL EXPLANATION

FOR IT. >> PLEASE CALL ROLL.

>> COMMISSIONER GUTIERREZ COHEN, YES, COMMISSIONER GONZALES INGALSBE, YES, COMMISSIONER SHELL, YES, COMMISSIONER SMITH, YES, JUDGE BECERRA, YES.

[J.1. PLN-2247-PC; Hold a Public Hearing, followed by discussion and possible action regarding Stagecoach Ranch, Sec 2, Lot 19E, Replat. SHELL/PACHECO]

>> DIVISIONS J1. >> PL 1-2247-PC HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING FOLLOWED BY DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION REGARDING STAGECOACH RANCH SECTION 2 LOT 19 HE RE-PLAT. AM OPENING FOR A PUBLIC HEARIN . ANYONE WISHING TO TO THE AGENDA ITEM PLEASE APPROACH THE PODIUM. I SEE NO MOVEMENT I AM CLOSING THE PUBLICHEARING .

>> THANK YOU COMMISSIONERS AND JUDGE THE STAGECOACH RANCH SECTION 2 LOT 19 HE IS A TWO LOT SUBDIVISION APPROXIMATELY 10.03 ACRES ALONG OVERLAND STAGE ROAD INCREASING. WATER SERVICE WILL BE ACCOMPLISHED BY INDIVIDUAL BY THAT WELLS AND WASTEWATER WILL BE ON-SITE SEWAGE FACILITIES. AT THIS TIME WE ARE RECOMMENDING A DISAPPROVAL OF THE PLAT APPLICATION IN REGARDS TO STILL REMAINING DEFICIENCIES THAT WILL BE INCLUDEDWITH THE BACKUP ITEMS . AND WE ASKED THE COURT FOR DIRECTION AND ONCE THESE DEFICIENCIES CAN BE ADDRESSED

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>> I MAKE A MOTION TO DISAPPROVE STAGECOACH RANCH SECTION 2 LOT 19 RE-PLAT UNTIL CORRECTIONS CAN BE MADE TO THEIR SEMINAL AND AUTHORIZED THE DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DEPARTMENT TO APPROVE THAT ONCE ALL CONDITIONS CAN BE MADE.

>> SECOND. >> PLEASE CALL ROLL.

P>> COMMISSIONER GONZALES INGALSBE, YES, COMMISSIONER

[J.2. PLN-2272-PC; Hold a Public Hearing, followed by discussion and possible action regarding 3-G Ranch, Sec 1, Lot 1-A, Vacate and Replat. INGALSBE/PACHECO]

>> 2. PLN-2272-PC; HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING, FOLLOWED BY DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION REGARDING 3-G RANCH, SEC 1, LOT 1-A, VACATE AND REPLAT.

>> I AM OPENING THIS AGENDA ITEM FOR PUBLIC HEARING.

ANYONE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM THESE APPROACH THE PODIUM.

>> THINK YOU JUDGE. THE 3G RANCH SECTION 1 LOT 1-A IS 10 ACRES ALONG PRECINCT 1. THE WATER WILL BE ACCOMPLISHED BY GOFORTHSPECIAL UTILITY DISTRICT WASTEWATER SERVICE WILL BE ACCOMPLISHED THROUGH INDIVIDUAL ON-SITE SEWAGE FACILITIES. THE SERVICE STAFF HAS REVIEWED THREE PLAT APPLICATION AND THEY ARE RECOMMENDING APPROVAL AT THIS TIME DUE TO THE REMAINING DEFICIENCIESINCLUDING IN THE BACKUP . WE REQUEST THE AUTHORIZATION TO APPROVE THE PLAT ONCE WE HAVE THOSE DEFICIENCIES ADDRESSED AND WE WOULD BRING BOTH THIS PLAT IN THE PRIOR PLAT TO THOSE TAKING ACTION BACK TO COURT FOR RATIFICATION.

>> COMMISSIONER? >> JUDGE I'M A SHA MOTION TO DISAPPROVE UNTIL CORRECTIONS ARE MADE.

>> YES MA'AM. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND PLEASE CALL

[J.3. PLN-2295-NP; Discussion and possible action regarding the ratification of the Jacobs Well Landing subdivision. SHELL/PACHECO]

ROLL. >> COMMISSIONER GUTIERREZ COHEN, YES, COMMISSIONER SMITH, YES, COMMISSIONER GONZALES INGALSBE, YES, COMMISSIONER SHELL, YES, JUDGE BECERRA, YES.

3. PLN-2295-NP; DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION REGARDING THE RATIFICATION OF THE JACOBS WELL LANDING SUBDIVISION.

>> SO MOVED. >> SECOND.

>> MR. PACHECO? >> I THINK THIS IS AN EXAMPLE OF ONE THAT WE DID NOT MEET THE REQUIREMENTS AND IT DID. STAFF APPROVE THAT AND IS BRING IT BACK.

>> YES. THAT IS THE PROCESS AND EXPLAINS IT TO THE COURT ABOUT BRINGING THE PLAT BACK FOR ERADICATION WHICH IS IMPORTANT BECAUSE IT MESSES WITH THE RECORDING OF THE PLAT IN THE COUNTY COURT OFFICE. IT IS ESTABLISHED THROUGH COMMISSIONERS COURT. FOR THIS PLAT SPECIFICALLY THIS IS A SUBDIVISION PLAT WHICH WOULD CONSIST OF TWO LOTS ACROSS 10 ACRES ALONG PRECINCT 3. THE PLAT HAD WATER AND WASTEWATER PROPOSED THROUGH AQUA TEXAS UTILITY DISTRICT AND THE STAFF HAS APPROVED AND ALL EFFICIENCIES WERE ADDRESSED.

NO OTHER. THESE WERE REQUESTED IN THE ST APPROVED THE PLAT WIT

RATIFICATION WITH THE COURT. >> PLEASE CALL ROLL.

>> COMMISSIONER SMITH, YES, COMMISSIONER GUTIERREZ COHEN,

[J.4. PLN-1900-NP; Discussion and possible action regarding the ratification of Prairie Lakes Subdivision, Phase 2, Section 1, Final Plat. COHEN/PACHECO]

YES, JUDGE BECERRA, YES. >> 4. PLN-1900-NP; DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION REGARDING THE RATIFICATION OF PRAIRIE LAKES SUBDIVISION, PHASE 2, SECTION 1, FINAL PLAT.

>> SO MOVED. >> SECOND.

>> MR. PACHECO? >> THINK YOU COURT. THE PRAIRIE LAKES SUBDIVISION PHASE II SECTION 1 FINAL PLAT WAS APPROVED. IT IS ACROSS TO 5 ACRES APPROXIMATELY ALONG PRECINCT TO THE WATER WILL BE ACCOMPLISHED BY GOFORTH SPECIAL UTILITY DISTRICT AND THE WASTEWATER WILL BE APPROVED THROUGH EAST HAYS COUNTY UTILITY DISTRICT NUMBER 1 HERE THE STAFF HAS ALREADY APPROVED THIS SUBDIVISION PLAT AND HAS MET ALL DEVELOPMENT GALATIANS AND NOTE DEFICIENCIES REMAINING PEER THE LAST STEP IS TO RATIFY THROUGH COURTACTION TODAY .

>> PERFECT. PLEASE CALL ROLL.

>> COMMISSIONER GONZALES INGALSBE, YES, COMMISSIONER

[J.5. PLN-2062-NP; Discussion and possible action regarding the ratification of Prairie Lakes Subdivision, Phase 2, Section 2, Final Plat. COHEN/PACHECO]

>> 5. PLN-2062-NP; DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION REGARDING THE RATIFICATION OF PRAIRIE LAKES SUBDIVISION, PHASE 2,

SECTION 2, FINAL PLAT. >> SO MOVED.

>> MR. PACHECO? >> SIMILAR TO THE PREVIOUS ITEM. SECTION 2 SEVEN SECTION 1. STAFF HAS APPROVED AND THIS IS FOR REQUEST AND RATIFICATION OF COURT.

>> SORRY COMMISSIONERS I WAS GETTING AHEAD OF MYOWN SELF .

PLEASE CALL ROLL. >> COMMISSIONER GUTIERREZ

[K.3. Discussion and possible action to adopt a resolution supporting the initiative of Hays Consolidated Independent School District in providing an armed security officer at each district campus. COHEN/CUTLER]

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BECERRA, YES. >> K3 DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO ADOPT A RESOLUTION SUPPORTING THE INITIATIVE OF HAYS CONSOLIDATED INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICT IN PROVIDING AN ARMED SECURITY OFFICER AT EACH DISTRICTCAMPUS.

>> SO MOVED. >> SECOND .

>> YES BECAUSE OF RECENT LEGISLATION THE DISTRICT ARE HAVING TO ADD MORE SROS TO THE CAMPUS AND FROM WHAT IT I UNDERSTAND THEY HAVE PARTNERED WITH US BEFORE WITH THE SROS AND WE HAVE HELPED THEM WITH FIVE PERCENT OF THE COST. THE STRUGGLE OF COURSE IS TRYING TO HIRE A SERVICE TO THE CAMPUS.

>> HOW MANY OFFICERS? >> 15.

>> I FEEL YOUR PAIN. I WILL TELL YOU THAT WE JUST DID APPROVE 6 TO 7 MORE FOR THE DRIPPING SPRINGS ISD. THE PROBLEM THAT WE HAD HAD IS WE HAD AT LEAST TWO POSITIONS FOR THE SRO AND WE HAVE STILL YET TO FILL FROM THE PREVIOUS ARPA ALLOCATION THAT WE DID. OUR PAY IS MORE THAN COMPETITIVE.

DON'T HAVE ANY OFFICERS TO FILL THE POSITIONS. I KNOW SAN MARCUS ISD WHO DOES NOT PARTICIPATE IN THE PROGRAM AS WELL AS DRIPPING THAT SAYS WE ARE LOOKING AT THE SCHOOL MARSHAL PROGRAM IN ORDER TO MEET THEREQUIREMENTS OF THAT .

AND SO FULLY SUPPORT IF WE CAN GET OFFICERS TO FILL THE

POSITIONS. >> PLEASE CALL ROLL.

>> COMMISSIONER SMITH, YES, COMMISSIONER GONZALES INGALSBE,

[K.4. Discussion and possible action to implement the proposed Hays County Intern Program guidelines. COHEN/MILLER]

YES, JUDGE BECERRA, YES. >> 4. DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO IMPLEMENT THE PROPOSED HAYS COUNTY INTERN

PROGRAM GUIDELINES. >> SO MOVED.

>> SECOND. >> MISS MILLER?

>> THE BRAINS BEHIND THE THOUGHT PROCESS.

>> I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THAT BUT THANK YOU. SHEARING MILLER HAYS COUNTY HR DIRECT AIR. THE COUNTY HAS ENJOYED AN INTERNSHIP PROGRAM FOR MANY YEARS. THIS THAT I AM BRINGING TO THE COURT TODAY TIGHTENS THAT PROGRAM A LITTLE BIT BASED ON FUNDING AVAILABILITY AND SOME INTERNAL GUIDELINES AND EXTERNAL GUIDELINES FOR INTERNSHIPS. I THINK WHAT HAS MAYBE HAPPEN HERE IS THAT WE ARE USING WHAT WE CALL INTERNS FOR WHAT REALLY SHOULD BE TEMPORARY EMPLOYEES. THE TRUE DEFINITION OF AN INTERN IS SOMEONE WHO IS ENGAGED IN EDUCATION AT A HIGHER LEVEL. COLLEGE UNIVERSITY, TRADE SCHOOL AND IS STILL ENROLLED IN SCHOOL AND WORK THAT THEY WOULD GAIN BY WORKING IN OUR OFFICES WOULD ENHANCE THEIR EDUCATIONAL PURSUITS. SO THIS PROGRAM HAS BEEN MANAGED IN THE PAST BY THE GENERAL COUNSEL'S OFFICE AND IN THIS FY 24 BUDGET WE TRANSITIONED THE MANAGEMENT OVER TO THE HR OFFICE. WHAT THE GUIDELINES ARE, SOME DIFFERENCES THAT OUR DEPARTMENT MAY FEEL AS WE GO THROUGH THIS PROCESS AND PUSH THE INFORMATION OUT TO THEM, FIRST OF ALL IT WOULD BE A DISCUSSION WITH MYSELF OR WITH A REQUEST TO THE HR OFFICE TO HAVE AN INTERN PLACED IN THEIR OFFICE. OFTEN TIMES WE HAVE RELATIONSHIPS WITH DEPARTMENTS AT THE UNIVERSITY OR COLLEGES.

I KNOW I DO WITH THE HR DEPARTMENT AT TEXAS STATE UNIVERSITY AND I COULD GET AN INTERN HERE TOMORROW IF I NEEDED ONE. WE KNOW WHERE TO GO TO GET ONE.

>> IF WE NEEDED ONE. WE ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO NEED ONE.

>> NOT WANTED ONE BUT NEEDED ONE. THAT IS RIGHT. WHAT I WOULD ASK IS THAT DEPARTMENT HEADS AND ELECTED OFFICIALS WOULD REQUEST IN WRITING WITH A BUSINESS NEED A JUSTIFICATION OF THE WORK THAT THE INTERN WOULD DO. IT WOULD BE OCCUPATIONALLY SPECIFIC TO THE WORK OF EACH OF OUR OFFICES AND THAT IT WOULD ALIGN WITH THE EDUCATION GOALS. SO, I WOULD NOT A LEGAL ASSISTANT, IN HR SPECIFICALLY BUT I WOULD USE IN HR STUDENT OR A PUBLIC POLICY STUDENT. THE OTHER THING IS WITH THE RESTRICTIONS OF FUNDING, HERE WE GO. WE ARE RECOMMENDING OR I AM RECOMMENDING THAT WE EITHER EMPLOY THE INTERN WITHOUT PAY IF THEY ARE ABLE TO GET COURSE CREDIT FOR THE INTERNSHIP. I DON'T KNOW WHAT A COURSE COSTS

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SO IN THE PAST THERE WAS SOME FASHION OF UNLIMITED INTERNSHIPS AND ELECTED OFFICIALS OFFICES. I WANTED TO MENTION THIS IN THAT THERE ARE, THERE COULD BE STUDENTS THAT ENJOY THE PLEASURE OF WORKING IN ELECTED OFFICIAL OFFICES UNDER AN INTERNSHIP OFFICE BUT THEY MAY OR MAY NOT AN INTERNSHIP. I WANT TO POINT THAT OUT THAT I WOULD SEE THIS PROGRAM ELIGIBLE FOR ELECTED OFFICIAL OFFICES OR NON-ELECTED OFFICIAL OFFICES. THANK YOU. I THINK THERE'S MAYBE SOME THOUGHT THAT TO BE ABLE TO PUT THAT YOU WORK IN AN OFFICIAL OFFICE ON YOUR RESUME IS AMAZING.

>> LET'S BE REALISTIC. IT DOESN'T PAY FOR MILK. I'M WITH YOU. YOU MISS MILLER FOR THESE WONDERFUL ADDITIONS AND UPGRADES AND WANT TO BE SHINS. COMMISSIONERS, COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS ABOUTTHESE? I THINK THEY ARE AWESOME .

COMMISSIONER GONZALES INGALSBE AND COMMISSIONER GUTIERREZ

COHEN? >> WE ARE GOOD. >> WELL DONE. THANK YOU FOR MASTERMINDING THIS. CAN YOU PROVIDE IN AN EMAIL FORM MAYBE AVAILABILITY AS IT EVOLVES PERIODICALLY TO THE ELECTED OFFICES AND DEPARTMENT HEADS SO THEY KNOW THEY CAN GRAB SOMEONE FOR THAT CAPACITY?

>> ABSOLUTELY. MY PLAN IS TO AFTER COURT TODAY OBVIOUSLY DISTURB YOU THIS TO ALL OF OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS AND DEPARTMENT HEADS WITH AN ONGOING UPDATE TO THEM AS INTERNSHIPS COME ON BOARD AND WE WILL KEEP A TRACKING OF THE UTILIZATION OF THE FUNDING AND TOWARDS THE SEMESTER AND WORK WITH EACH OF THOSE WHO HAVE INTERNS TO SEE IF THEY ARE GOING TO CONTINUE. I HAVE AN INTERN IN THE HR OFFICE COMMUNICATIONS AND ONE AT A COMMUNICATION EMPLOYEE AT THE COUNTY THAT SERVESTHE ENTIRE COUNTY . SO WE HAVE ENJOYED THE PLEASURE OF AN INTERN, A PAID INTERN WHO IS NOT GETTING A COURSE CREDIT BUT SHE IS GETTING THE EXPERIENCE HOPEFULLY THAT WILL HELP KICK HER OFF IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF YEARS INTO HER COMMUNICATIONS CAREER.

>> BEAUTIFUL. WELL DONE. HONESTLY. THESE CALL ROLE.

>> COMMISSIONER SHELL, YES, COMMISSIONER GONZALES INGALSBE, YES, COMMISSIONER SMITH, YES, COMMISSIONER GUTIERREZ COHEN,

YES, JUDGE BECERRA, YES. >> WHERE ARE WE?

>> I BELIEVE NINE. >> NINE IS THE ONLY ONE LEFT.

[K.9. Discussion and possible action to authorize the Constable Pct. 1 Office and Sheriff's Office to procure vehicle repairs for 2023 leased vehicles and amend the budget accordingly. INGALSBE/SHELL/PETERSON/CUTLER]

>> DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO AUTHORIZE THE CONSTABLE PCT. 1 OFFICE AND SHERIFF'S OFFICE TO PROCURE VEHICLE REPAIRS FOR 2023 LEASED VEHICLES AND AMEND THE BUDGET

ACCORDINGLY. >> SOME OF.

>> SECOND. >> WE HAVE A GROCERY LIST OF SPONSORS BUT I AM STILL SCRATCHING MY HEAD ABOUT DOGGONE IT WAY I READ IT THESE CARS ARE PARKED IN A PARKING LOT AND THEY INCUR DAMAGE AND WE HAVE TO PAY FOR IT.

>> IT'S NOT GOOD. >> IS UNFORTUNATE.

>> PLEASE CALL ROLL. >> COMMISSIONER GONZALES

[M.2. Discussion related to the Hays County inmate population, to include current population counts and costs. BECERRA]

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>> PLEASE OPEN ITEM NUMBER HIM TO.

>> DISCUSSION RELATED TO THE HAYS COUNTY INMATE POPULATION, TO INCLUDE CURRENT POPULATION COUNTS AND COSTS.

>> THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE TAKES THE TIME TO PROVIDE MY OFFICE REPORT AND TO THE COMMUNITY IT CONTINUES TO SHOW AN INTEREST IN IT SO I WILL CONTINUE TO READ IT OUT LOUD. HAYES COUNTY CURRENT JAIL CAPACITY IS 410 INMATES PER JAIL STANDARDS RECOMMEND HOLDING APPROXIMATELY 10 PERCENT THAT CAPACITY OPEN WHICH LOWERS OUR CAPACITY TO 360. THE JAIL'S DAILY AVERAGE WAS 540 AND PICO 554 YOU ARE REALLY CLOSE COMMISSIONER SHELL 554 NOVEMBER 1. THE AVERAGE THE ESTIMATED COST FOR OUTSOURCING INMATES THIS WEEK IS $177,320. THE AVERAGE NUMBERS OF OUTSOURCED MEALS IS 274 AND FEMALES ARE FIVE. THIS WEEK'S INMATES WERE HOUSED IN THE FOLLOWING COUNTIES.

HASKELL AND MAVERICK. >> PLEASE OPEN, JORDAN?

[EXECUTIVE SESSIONS]

>> YOU SAW ME HEADING TOWARDS THE MICROPHONE?

>> IN REGARDS TO THE EXECUTIVE SESSIONS WE WILL OPEN ALL OF THOSE BUT IT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THE COURT ON A TWO POLE G 18 INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION? IF WE COULD WHEN THE CLERK OPENS THE EXECUTIVE SESSION IF WE CULD OPEN G 18 AND THOSE AND MENTIONED ITEM G 18 IS GOING TO EXECUTIVE SESSION UNDER SECTION 551.071 AND SECTION 551.076 OF THE

TEXAS GOVERNMENT. >> BEAUTIFUL JORDAN. HOMERUN! LOOK AT THAT. PLEASE OPEN G 18 IN EXEC OF SESSION ALONG WITH

ALL EXECUTIVE SESSION ITEMS. >> G 18 L1 EXECUTIVE SESSION PURSUANT TO SECTION 5.1.071 AND 551.072 OF THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE CONSULTATION WITH COUNSEL AND DELIBERATION REGARDING THE PURCHASE EXCHANGE AND LEASE AND OR VALUE OF REAL PROPERTY ASSOCIATED WITH PARKS AND OPEN SPACE PROJECTS BEING CONSIDERED IN HAYS COUNTY POSSIBLE DISCUSSION AND ACTION MAY FALL IN OPEN COURT. L2 2. EXECUTIVE SESSION PURSUANT TO SECTIONS 551.071 AND 551.087 OF THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE: CONSULTATION WITH COUNSEL AND DELIBERATION REGARDING ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT NEGOTIATIONS ASSOCIATED WITH PROJECT MUNCH, PROJECT MIDNIGHT BLUE, PROJECT HOT PURSUIT, AND PROJECT LION KING. POSSIBLE DISCUSSION AND/OR ACTION MAY FOLLOW IN OPEN COURT. 3. EXECUTIVE SESSION PURSUANT TO SECTIONS 551.071 AND 551.072 OF THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE: CONSULTATION WITH COUNSEL AND DELIBERATION REGARDING THE PURCHASE, EXCHANGE, LEASE AND/OR VALUE OF RIGHT OF WAY LOCATED AT OR NEAR HILLSIDE TERRACE IN PRECINCT 2. POSSIBLE DISCUSSION AND/OR ACTION MAY FOLLOW IN OPEN COURT. 4.

EXECUTIVE SESSION PURSUANT TO SECTIONS 551.071 AND 551.074 OF THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE: CONSULTATION WITH COUNSEL AND DELIBERATION REGARDING THE EMPLOYMENT AND DUTIES OF THE POSITION OF THE HAYS COUNTY LOCAL HEALTH AUTHORITY.

POSSIBLE DISCUSSION AND/OR ACTION MAY FOLLOW IN OPEN COURT.

SESSIONS PLEASE CLEAR THE COURTROOM. OKAY.

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>> USUALLY I GAVEL SO THEY CAN HEAR IT.

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[G.18. Authorize the County Judge to execute a proposal from Security One Inc. for the purchase and installation of two additional security cameras for the Elections IT Building in the amount of $4,524.18 and amend the budget accordingly. SHELL/T.CRUMLEY ]

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>> WE HAVE A COUPLE MOTIONS . THE FIRST ONE IS G 18 IT

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ACCORDINGLY. >> SECOND.

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>> PLEASE CALL ROLL. >> COMMISSIONER SHELL, YES,

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[L.2. Discussion and possible action to authorize the execution of Change Order #1 to the Professional Services Agreement between Hays County and WSB Inc., dated February 1, 2022, to add an additional $38,503.75 to account for design changes related to local input regarding dark sky lighting and the addition of construction phase services, and extend the contract by an additional year. SHELL/BORCHERDING]

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>> JUDGE MY NEXT MOTION IS L2. TO AUTHORIZE THE HAYS COUNTY

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BETWEEN HAYS COUNTY AND HCB. >> SECOND.

>> PLEASE CALL ROLL. >> COMMISSIONER SHELL, YES, COMMISSIONER GONZALES INGALSBE, YES, COMMISSIONER SMITH, YES, COMMISSIONER GUTIERREZ COHEN, YES, JUDGE BECERRA, YES.

>> THERE IS ONE MORE!

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