[F4. Presentation by the Hays County Office of Emergency Services to include a recap of the 2023 Preparedness Fair and to announce the winning department for the best overall basket in the employee raffle basket contest. BECERRA/MIKE JONES]

PLEASE OPEN F4. >> PRESENTATION BIT HAYS COUNTY OFFICE OF EMERGENCY SERVICES TO INCLUDE A RECAP OF THE 2023 PREPAREDNESS FAIR AND TO NOUN THE WINNING DEPARTMENT FOR THE BEST OVERALL BASKET IN THE EMPLOYEE RAFFLE BASKET CONTEST.

>> MIKE JONES. THANK YOU FOR ALL OF YOU WHO CAME OUT. WE APPRECIATE Y'ALL.

THE -- OUR SPONSORS OF THIS EVENT -- THIS IS OUR SIXTH ANNUAL EVENT, AS YOU ALL KNOW. THE SPONSOR OF THIS EVENT HAS GROWN EXPEDIENTIALLY, AS WELL. THIS YEAR WE HAD HEB AND ALSO CORE, WB ARTHUR, THEY DO OUR REMEDIATION AND SPONSORED OUR CHILI COOK-OFF, WHICH WAS THE FIRST YEAR WE EVER HAD A CHILI COOK-OFF. AND YOU'LL PROBABLY NOTICE IT WAS SMALL. NEXT YEAR WE'LL OPEN UP TO THE PUBLIC AND PEOPLE CAN COMPETE FOR THE COVETED FIRST PLACE PRIZE. AND IN ADDITION TO THAT, THE BREWERY WAS THE SPONSOR FOR OUR LIBATIONS AND REFRESHMENTS FOR THE KICK-OFF AND UNITED SITE SERVICES PROVIDED THE MOST IMPORTANT TOILETS AND WASHING MACHINES FOR US OUT THERE.

AND ALSO RESPONSIBLE FOR THE TEACH THAT'S RIGHT WE HAD OUT THERE FOR THE CHILI COOK-OFF AS WELL.

>> I WANT TO THANK ALL OF THE DEPARTMENTS THAT HELPED US MAKE THIS SUCCESSFUL THIS YEAR. THE DEPARTMENTS THAT HELPED US PUT TOGETHER THE RAFFLES AND BASKETS FOR THE CHIEF'S ASSOCIATION AND RECOVERY TEAM THEY'RE PARTNERS OF OUR COUNTY CLERK OFFICE, DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE AND ESPECIALLY WANT TO MENTION KELLY HIGGINS' MOM WHO ACTUALLY DONATED ONE OF HER PAINTINGS FOR THE SILENT AUCTION WE HAD OUT THERE.

SO THANK YOU BETTY. >> COUNTY JUDGE, THANK YOU, SIR AND TO OUR COMMISSIONERS... THANK YOU.

AND COMMISSIONER SMITH, THANK YOU, SIR, FOR YOUR DONATIONS.

I'D LIKE TO THANK THE CONSTABLE PRECINCT 4 RON HOOD.

NOW, I KNOW THAT YOU PROBABLY SAW SOME MENTIONS OF THE WINNERS. IF YOU HAVEN'T SEEN IT, YOU DIDN'T KNOW, THAT THE THIRD PLACE FOR THOSE BASKETS WENT TO THE D.A.'S OFFICE. SECOND PLACE WAS AN ORGANIZATION CALLED K-9, K-9S ON ALL, AND FIRST PLACE, IT'S PROBABLY NO SURPRISE TO MANY PEOPLE IN THIS ROOM, BUT THE AUDITOR'S OFFICE.

>> ALWAYS THE AUDITOR'S OFFICE. >> YES.

>> THEY'VE DONE AMAZING BASKETS THREE YEARS IN A ROW.

TRAVEL. SO TO EVERY DEPARTMENT WATCHING THIS RIGHT NOW, I DARE YOU TO BEAT THEM NEXT YEAR.

LET'S DO A PICTURE UP HERE WITH THAT TROPHY.

AN ABSOLUTE WORTHY CAUSE... >> THANK YOU.

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>> BEAUTIFUL... >> WHAT I'M GOING TO DO IS OPEN F3 AS REQUESTED AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO TAKE A SHORT 5 MINUTE

RECESS. >> F3?

>> F3. >> PRESENTATION OF HAYS COUNTY EMPLOYEE SERVICE AND RETIREMENT AWARDS.

>> DID I SAY F3? WHAT WAS IT?

>> THE ONE FROM THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE.

WHICH ONE IS IT? >> K3.

>> K3... PUBLIC HEARING --

>> THAT'S NOT IT. >> WHICH ONE IS IT?

[K6. Discussion and possible action to set the off-duty County Patrol Vehicle fees for the Constable and Sheriff Departments under Texas Local Government Code Section 118.131. SMITH]

>> K6. THERE WE GO.

YOU SEE THE INTENT, RIGHT, YOU SEE THE INTENT.

K6. >> DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION TO SET OFF-DUTY COUNTY CONTROL VEHICLE FEES FOR THE CONSTABLE AND SHERIFF DEPARTMENTS UNDER TEXAS LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE,

SECTION 118.131. >> SO MOVED.

>> SECOND. >> OKAY.

NOW THIS IS A CONTINUATION OF OUR COURT FROM LAST WEEK, COMMISSIONER SMITH WOULD YOU LIKE TO LEAD THE CONVERSATION?

>> SURE, JUDGE. THE CONSTABLES MET WITH THE AUDITOR'S OFFICE THIS WEEK AND DISCUSSED A LOT OF THE ISSUES THAT WE BROUGHT UP HERE IN COURT, AND I KNOW THE AUDITOR'S OFFICE HAS AN OVERALL -- I'LL TURN IT OVER TO THEM FOR THEIR OVERALL RECOMMENDATION. I DO KNOW THAT WHEN IT CAME TO SOME OF THE PARTICULARS WITHIN HOW WE ASSESS THE FEES FOR-PROFIT VERSUS NONPROFITS AND SOME OTHER THINGS, THERE WAS SOME CONSIDERATION FROM ONE CONSTABLE RELATIVE TO WANTING TO HAVE SOMETHING DIFFERENT, BUT I WILL TELL YOU THAT IN GENERAL, IT WAS A -- AND CONSTABLEHOOD IS HERE WHO ACTUALLY DID THE POLLING OF THE OTHER STONES TABS.

THERE'S GENERAL CONSENSUS WITH THE EXCEPTION OF ONE CONSTABLE RELATIVE TO HOW THOSE FEES AND OTHER THINGS SHOULD BE STRUCTURED AND I MIGHT ASK CONSTABLE HOOD IF YOU WANT TO MAKE ANY COMMENTS RELATIVE TO WHAT THE OUTCOME OF THE

DISCUSSIONS WERE. >> SOUNDS PERFECT.

CONSTABLE HOOD, YOUR TIME SOMETHING MAGNIFICENT.

HE GAVE A LITTLE INTRO FOR THE REASON COMING BACK FROM LAST WEEK. IF YOU DON'T MIND GIVING US A LITTLE BACKGROUND HOW IT EVOLVED AND WHAT YOUR RECOMMENDATION IS.

>> THANK YOU, SIR. >> JUDGE, ACTUALLY -- WOULD LOVE TO HAVE YOU COME TO THE PODIUM, BUT BEFORE YOU SPEAK, I MIGHT ASK IF WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE REASON WE HAD TO BRING IT BACK THIS WEEK INSTEAD OF THE NEXT WEEK, WHICH IS WHAT WE

ANTICIPATED. >> YEAH, IT WAS THE BUDGET OFFICE WHO HAD RESEARCHED RECOMMENDATION FOR INCREASING

THE FEES. >> VICKI DORSET, COUNTY BUDGET OFFICER. WE HAD LOOKED AT THE FEES AND THE SURROUNDING COUNTIES AND ALSO JUST THE INCREASES THAT WE'VE HAD IN THESE VEHICLES OVER THE PAST THREE YEARS.

THEY'VE INCREASED THEIR MONTHLY LEASE AMOUNTS, SOME AS MUCH AS 35%, FIELD COSTS HAVE GONE UP, MAINTENANCE COSTS HAVE GONE UP, OUR FEES THAT WE'VE SET FOR THE BEAUTIFUL USAGE FEES HAVE REMAINED FLAT SINCE THE COURT ADOPTED THOSE.

SO IT WAS A RECOMMENDATION TO LOOK AT POTENTIALLY INCREASING THOSE TO OFF-SET SOME OF THE COSTS FOR THOSE VEHICLES BEING

OUT IN THE FIELD FOR OFF DUTY. >> PERFECT.

AND INSTEAD OF YOU PROVIDING THE RECOMMENDATION WE'LL LET THE CONSTABLE PROVIDE IT? CONSTABLE, I THINK FINALLY WE'LL

LET YOU SPEAK. >> SORRY ABOUT THAT.

I THOUGHT WE NEEDED BETTER CLARIFICATION.

>> GOOD MORNING, JUDGE. GOOD MORNING COMMISSIONERS.

>> REGARDING THE ISSUE ON THE VEHICLE FEES, THE COUNTY USAGE

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FEES, WE DID HAVE A MEETING WITH THE CONSTABLES IN HAYS COUNTY AND MADE PROPOSAL, WE CAME UP WITH A PROPOSAL, NOT EVERYONE'S IN AGREEMENT WITH IT. THERE WAS SOME -- IT'S NOT 100% AGREEMENT ON THIS. I WILL SHARE WITH YOU WHAT WE DID DECIDE WHAT THE MAJORITY OF THE GROUP DECIDED ON AND UNDERSTANDING THAT THE COUNTY IS IN A DIFFICULT POSITION BECAUSE OFFICERS DO USE THESE VEHICLES AND THE PERFORMANCE OF THESE OFF-DUTY ASSIGNMENTS AND DETAILS, SO THERE IS AN BENEFIT TO THE OFFICE WE RECOGNIZE THAT, AND THERE IS A COST TO THE COUNTY. WE ALSO RECOGNIZE THAT.

AND LOOKING OVER AND DISCUSSING THIS, THE PROPOSAL THAT WE'RE PREPARED TO MAKE IS THAT THERE IS A $20 FEE FOR THE USE OF A COUNTY VEHICLE, FOR THAT, AND THE EXAMPLE WILL BE THIS.

THE VEHICLE WILL BE USED TO TAKE THE OFFICER TO THE LOCATION.

THERE WILL BE -- IT WILL BE PARKED AT THAT LOCATION, THE VISIBLE PRESENCE OF THAT VEHICLE THERE, AND OF COURSE THE OFFICERS PERFORMING HIS DUTIES, WHATEVER THAT IS.

IT'S A FLAT RATE FEE OF $20, IS WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING.

>> IS THAT WITHIN THE COUNTY, SIR?

>> THAT'S TO THE COUNTY. >> I'M SORRY.

IN THE GEOGRAPHICAL FOOTPRINT ANYWHERE OR COUNTY SPECIFIC? BECAUSE WE HAD A CONVERSATION OUTSIDE OF HAYS COUNTY.

>> OUR CONVERSATION WAS COUNTY SPECIFIC.

>> THANK YOU THAT WAS PROPOSAL 1.

THE SECOND PART OF THAT IS IF THE VEHICLE IS BEING USED IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE OFFICER'S PRESENCE BEING THERE, FOR EXAMPLE, THE OFFICER DRIVES A VEHICLE TO THE LOCATION AND THEN THAT VEHICLE'S GOING TO BE USED FOR A LIMITED PURPOSE DURING THE COURSE OF THAT ASSIGNMENT, FOR EXAMPLE, TRAFFIC CONTROL, THEN THE CONSTABLES HAVE SAID THAT SHOULD BE A $25 FEE FOR THAT FLAT RATE FEE. AND THE THIRD SECTION OF IT IS THAT IF IT WAS TO BE USED CONTINUOUSLY THROUGHOUT EVENT, THE COURSE OF THE OFF-DUTY ASSIGNMENT, THAT IS THE OFFICER IS DRIVING THE PERIMETER OR WORKING ON THE ROAD ON THE 35 OR 290, THAT TYPICALLY THESE JOBS EXCEED FOUR HOURS, AND SO WE LOOK AT IT AND SAID $100 FLAT FEE FOR THE USE OF THAT VEHICLE DURING THE COURSE OF THAT EVENT. NOW, THERE IS -- THERE WAS SOME DISCUSSIONS REGARDING ESCORTS. UNDERSTAND THAT ALL OF THE CONSTABLES' OFFICES PERFORM FUNERAL ESCORTS WITHIN OUR PRECINCTS AND DO THIS AS A COURTESY TO OUR CONSTITUENTS AND RECOGNIZE AND HONOR THOSE THAT HAVE PASSED AND TO RECOGNIZE AND HONOR THOSE FAMILIES. WE DO NOT CHARGE THE VEHICLE FEES. WE DO NOT CHARGE THE COMMUNITY, THE FUNERAL HOMES, ANYONE FOR OUR SERVICES DURING THAT EVENT.

AGAIN, THIS IS JUST A COURTESY FROM THE CONSTABLES TO OUR COMMUNITY, AND SO WE DO NOT CHARGE, SO WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S THAT EXCEPTION INCLUDED IN THIS POLICY THAT WE WILL NOT CHARGE VEHICLE FEES FOR THE USE OF IT DURING A FUNERAL

ESCORT. >> THAT SOUNDS VERY PERFECT, VERY SOUND, AND I THINK IT'S VERY CONSCIENTIOUSLY THOUGHT THROUGH. COMMISSIONER, I WAS JUST GOING TO ASK THE QUESTION ABOUT HAD THE CONVERSATION BEEN BROUGHT UP? BECAUSE THE COURT MEMBERS, MYSELF INCLUDED, AREN'T KEEN ON HAYS COUNTY MARKED UNITS LEAVING THE COUNTY BEING -- I THINK YOUR REFERENCE WAS -- I DON'T KNOW -- YOU PICK, OUTSIDE THE COUNTY. AND US NOT ONLY NOT KNOWING ABOUT IT, BUT ALSO MAKING SURE WE CHARGE A PROPER FEE FOR THAT

WEAR AND TEAR. >> THE OUTSIDE OF THE COUNTY USE, THAT'S GOING TO -- DISCUSSIONS WITH THE OTHER CONSTABLES, SOME OF US ALLOW OUR DEPUTIES OUTSIDE.

SOME DO NOT. WE AGAIN -- WE REALLY DIDN'T COME TO A CONSENSUS ON AGREEMENT ON HOW TO ADDRESS THAT.

WE CAN GO BACK AND WE CAN DISCUSS IT FURTHER, BUT AT THIS POINT, I SHOULDN'T BE SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF THE OTHER CONSTABLES BECAUSE THERE IS THOSE THAT -- THEIR DEPUTIES DO WORK OUTSIDE THE COUNTY, AND THEY WANT THEM TO CONTINUE TO DO

SO. >> OKAY.

BEFORE YOU LEAVE THE PODIUM, I WANT TO GIVE THE COMMISSIONERS AN OPPORTUNITY SAY SOMETHING. I THINK YOU WANTED TO ASK A

QUESTION? >> NOT NECESSARILY.

I JUST SAW GUTIERREZ STAND UP. I DID HAVE SOME CONCERNS.

I KNOW WE HAD SOME COMPLAINTS FROM SEEN VEHICLES AT

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ESTABLISHMENT THAT WERE KIND OF QUESTIONABLE, AND SO I -- YOU KNOW, I -- FOR ONE, I, YOU KNOW, NOT SURE THAT I SUPPORT OUR VEHICLES GOING OUT OF THE COUNTY BUT I GUESS WE CAN HAVE MORE

DISCUSSION THAT. >> COMMISSIONER COHEN.

>> THE QUESTION YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT, THE FLAT FEE FOR THE -- YOU PROVIDE THE FUNERAL ESCORT, THAT MONDAY THROUGH SUNDAY OR IS IT JUST THROUGH MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY?

>> THE FUNERAL ESCORTS? >> YES.

>> WE PROVIDE THEM SEVEN DAYS A WEEK.

YOU KNOW, UNFORTUNATELY, WE CAN'T SCHEDULE A FUNERAL.

IT HAPPENS WHEN IT HAPPENS, AND THE SERVICES WHEN IT HAPPENS.

AND SO WE -- A FUNERAL DIRECT LETTER CONTACT US AND SAY, HEY, WE HAVE A FUNERAL ON A SATURDAY OR SUNDAY AFTERNOON, ARE YOU AVAILABLE. IF I'M AVAILABLE AND IF I'M ABLE TO GET ASSISTANCE FROM EITHER THE OTHER CONSTABLES, THEN, YES, WE'RE GOING TO PROVIDE THAT SERVICE ON A SUNDAY AFTERNOON.

AND AGAIN, THAT'S NO COST TO THE COUNTY OTHER THAN IF I USE MY DEPUTIES IN THE COURSE OF THAT EVENT, I WILL COMPENSATE THEM WITH COMP TIME. THEY ARE COMING IN AND AGAIN PROVIDING A COMMUNITY SERVICE. SO I WILL GIVE THEM COMP TIME FOR THE TIME THAT THEY ARE THERE FOR THAT PURPOSE.

>> COMMISSIONER SHELL. >> COMMISSIONER SMITH.

>> I'LL JUST SAY THAT I'M ONE OF THE ONES ON THE COURT THE LAST FEW WEEKS SAYING I'M NOT COMFORTABLE WITH THE VEHICLES TRAVELING OUTSIDE OF THE COUNTY. BUT WHERE THE RUBBER MEETS THE ROAD ON THAT ISSUE THAT REALLY WAS BROUGHT CLOSER TO MY ATTENTION -- WE HAVE A LARGE NUMBER OF EVENTS THAT ARE MULTICOUNTY EVENTS THAT OUR GUYS WORK.

AND I USE THE EXAMPLE OF THE BIKE RACE THAT WAS HERE THAT -- I GUESS IT WAS LAST WEEK, MAYBE ANOTHER ONE IN THE COMING WEEK, THAT STARTS IN TRAVIS COUNTY, TRAVERSES THROUGH HAYS COUNTY AND ENDS UP IN OUR NEIGHBORING COUNTY.

AND AT THE END OF THE DAY, WHENEVER THOSE EVENTS ARE PUT ON, WE ENDEAVOR TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR FOLKS ARE STATIONED IN HAYS COUNTY, BUT ON THE LARGER SCALE EVENTS THAT ARE TOUCHING OUR COUNTIES, SOMETIMES OUR OFFICERS TO GET THE FULL COVERAGE FOR THE EVENTS MAY HAVE TO CROSS COUNTY LINES.

AND I HAVE AN UNDERSTANDING FOR THAT.

I MEAN, I UNDERSTAND THE NEED THERE.

I DON'T KNOW IF WE WANT TO LOOK AT A SEPARATE RATE FOR WHEN THEY'RE STATIONED OUTSIDE THE COUNTY OR SOMETHING.

I JUST DON'T KNOW. I DON'T HAVE THE RIGHT ANSWER, I KNOW THAT I DO WANT THESE GUYS TO GO BACK AND TAKE A REALLY HARD LOOK AT IT AND SEE IF THEY CAN COME UP WITH A CONCEPT THAT ALL OF THEM CAN BE IN AGREEMENT ON, INCLUDING THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT, AS TO HOW TO GET THAT DONE.

>> YEAH. AND SO JUST TO REITERATE, AND YOU SPOKE IT PERFECTLY, COMMISSIONER, BUT FOR THE VIEWING PUBLIC I LIKE TO IT SOMETIMES RECAP THINGS.

THE COMMISSIONER JUST MENTIONED HOW SOME OF US DON'T LIKE THE IDEA OF A MARKED COUNTY VEHICLE OUT IN CORPUS CHRISTI, FOR EXAMPLE. BUT IN A SITUATION WHERE IT'S A VERY NEAR PROXIMITY OR A MULTIJURISDICTIONAL EVENT, WELL, THAT MAKES SENSE TO BE WORKING TOGETHER IN THOSE SETTINGS.

AND SO AGREE, COMMISSIONER, IDEALLY, IF YOU GUYS COULD IRON OUT SOMETHING YOU AGREE ON, AND THEN OF COURSE WE'LL LET LIEUTENANT GUTIERREZ SPEAK AFTER YOU, TO SUGGEST TO US -- BECAUSE YOU'RE THE ONES THAT ARE OUT THERE.

YOU'RE THE PROS, AND IN EVERY SERVICE AND ACCESS AND SUPPORT THAT WE CAN GIVE OUR FRONTLINE, WE ALL WANT TO GIVE, IT BUT IT'S JUST ABOUT CREATING CLEAR, MEASURABLE, OBTAINABLE GOALS, AND I KNOW WE'RE ON THE SAME PAGE.

IT'S JUST ABOUT HIGHLIGHTING THOSE.

>> LIEUTENANT, DID YOU WANT TO --

>> I JUST HAD ONE OTHER QUESTION TO THE COURT, REGARDING THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THIS POLICY. SOME OF THE CONSTABLES, I INCLUDED, HAVE ALREADY MET WITH VENDORS WHO WERE SAYING, HEY, WE'RE GOING TO REQUEST THIS SERVICE, AND WE'VE ALREADY QUOTED THEM THE OLD FEE. WE WOULD LIKE TO BE ABLE TO HONOR THAT UNTIL, YOU KNOW, WE'RE THROUGH THAT CYCLE OF VENDORS THAT WE'VE ALREADY SCHEDULED.

SO IF WE COULD, I'M NOT SURE WHEN THIS IS GOING TO --

>> RIGHT. WE COULD ABSOLUTELY MAKE AN EFFECTIVE DATE, EVERYTHING THAT YOU'VE ALREADY AGREED UPON WILL STAY AND WE START ON THIS NEW BUDGET CYCLE AND MOVING FORWARD NEW COMMITMENTS WOULD GO WITH THIS NEW PLAN.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> JANUARY 1? WHATEVER THE COURT DECIDES. WE COULD TALK ABOUT IT RIGHT NOW AS AN ACTIVE DATE.

>> PERFECT. WE'LL GET THAT ANSWER, SIR, BEFORE YOU WALK AWAY. LIEUTENANT?

>> LIEUTENANT GUTIERREZ WITH THE HAYS COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE.

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WE DID KNOW ABOUT THE MEETING. I'M JUST FIRST HEARING ABOUT THE DOLLAR AMOUNTS RIGHT NOW. TO ANSWER THE COURT'S QUESTIONS AS FAR AS WORKING OUTSIDE OF THE COUNTY, WE HAVE A STEADFAST RULE, WE DO NOT WORK OUTSIDE OF THE COUNTY WITH ONE EXCEPTION AND THAT'S THE SERVICE OF AMERICAS.

WE'VE COME TO AN AGREEMENT WITH THE TRAVIS COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE THAT WE PROVIDE JUST TRAFFIC CONTROL FOR THE RACE EVENTS. WE DON'T WORK THE CONCERTS OUT THERE OR THE ADDITIONAL THINGS THAT HAPPEN AS FAR AS SECURITY PURPOSE. WE DO STRICTLY TRAFFIC CONTROL ONLY BECAUSE OF LIABILITY PURPOSE.

WE DON'T WANT TO PUT OUR GUYS OUT THERE.

SO THAT'S THE SET RULE THAT WE HAVE AT THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE.

I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE $20 AN HOUR INCREASE.

IT'S DOUBLING THE AMOUNT. WE RECENTLY -- EVERY LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCY IN HAYS COUNTY HAD TO INCREASE THE RATE FOR THE DEPUTY BY $10 AN HOUR, AND NOW WE'RE GOING TO DOUBLE THE RATE FOR VEHICLES. WE DON'T HAVE THE MAIN CORPORATIONS LIKE THE DILLARD'S AND J.C. PENNEY'S, AND THE BIG COMPANIES WHERE TO THEM IT'S A DROP IN THE BUCKET WHERE A LOT OF THE ORGANIZATIONS THAT WE DO WORK FOR ARE MOM AND POP PLACES.

THE WEDDING VENUES AND THINGS LIKE THAT, THE QUINCEAÑERA.

I THINK IT'D BE OKAY WITH $25. RIGHT NOW WE DO A FLAT FEE FOR $15. GOING TO $20 IS NO BIG DEAL.

I DO LIKE THE IDEA THAT IF WE DO USE THE VEHICLE UNTIL THE END OF THE EVENT, TO DO A $25 FLAT FEE, AS WELL.

WE ENCOURAGE -- AS A MATTER OF FACT WE'RE PROBABLY GOING TO MAKE A RULE -- THAT WE HAVE TO HAVE A PATROL UNIT.

BECAUSE THE DAY IN AGE WE HAVE TO HAVE A MARKED UNIT OR UNMARKED UNIT SO THESE GUYS HAVE ACCESS TO TOOLS, WHETHER IT'S A FIRST AID KID, GOD FORBID THEY NEED TO REACH FOR THEIR LONG ARE RIFLE FOR WHATEVER HAPPENS, OUR GUYS NEED TO HAVE TOOLS AVAILABLE. THIS IS MORE THAN GUYS JUST MAKING EXTRA MONEY ON THE SIDE, WE'RE PROVIDING SECURITY AT THESE EVENTS FOR THE PEOPLE. THAT'S KIND OF THE RULE THAT WE HAVE. THE $100 FLAT FEE FOR SOME OF THE EVENTS, I THINK WE NEED LOOK AT AN HOURLY RATE FOR THAT BECAUSE SOME OF THESE CONSTRUCTION JOBS, THEY'LL RUN ANYWHERE FROM, YOU KNOW, COULD BE ANYWHERE UP TO 12 HOURS, AND IF WE'RE DOING A FLAT FEE, IF YOU DIVIDE, IT IT'S GOING TO BE LOWER THAN WHAT OUR HOURLY RATE IS RIGHT NOW CURRENTLY.

I THINK WE NEED TO PROBABLY JUST RELOOK AT DOING AN HOURLY RATE, ESPECIALLY FOR CONSTRUCTION JOBS OR IF WE'RE RUNNING ESCORTS, ON THE ROADWAYS WHERE THE VEHICLE IS ACTUALLY BEING USED.

I AGREE WITH YOU, SIR, WITH LIVE STRONG WE HAD TWO WEEKS AGO, I HAD 58 OFFICERS I HAD TO FIND. IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO FIND THAT MANY, SO I HAD TO RELY ON A LOT OF OUTSIDE AGENCIES, SO YOU GET THESE GUYS THAT SHOW UP IN THEIR PICKUP TRUCKS AND THINGS ON THE SIDE THAT SAY POLICE, AND THEY GOT LIGHTS EVERYWHERE, BUT WE HAVE TO RESORT TO SOME OF THAT. OUR STANCE FOR THAT IS WE WON'T THOSE MAJOR EVENTS OUTSIDE THE COUNTY.

WE'RE GOING TO STAY FIRM WITH WHAT WE HAVE AND THEY STAY WITHIN THE COUNTY. SO AGAIN I THINK THE CONSTABLES HAVE A GOOD IDEA WITH A PLAN. I JUST THINK WE NEED RELOOK AT CONSTRUCTION FEES AND THE ONES THAT USE THE CAR LONGER THAN THAT FOUR HOURS, BECAUSE IT WILL CUT DOWN ON THE AMOUNT OF MONEY

WE GET BACK WITH THE COUNTY. >> GREAT POINT, LIEUTENANT.

ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE LIEUTENANT?

>> SO Y'ALL DON'T DO ANY OUT OF COUNTY JOBS OTHER THAN THE

CIRCUIT -- >> NO, NOTHING OUTSIDE THE COUNTY. ONLY THE CIRCUITS OF AMERICA AND ONLY FOR THE TRAFFIC CONTROL, AND IT'S ONLY ONCE OR TWICE A YEAR. YOU KNOW WHAT, I'M GOING TO TAKE THAT BACK -- AND THE RODEO. I BEG YOUR PARDON.

WE HAVE ONE MORE -- EVEN THOUGH THEY HAVEN' ASKED US FOR HELP IN A LONG TIME, WE TYPICALLY JUST DO ONE YEAR FOR THE CIRCUIT

OF AMERICAS. >> AND THAT SEEMS LIKE A MANAGEABLE CONTINUITY -- SO THAT IF IT'S NOT STRADDLING THE COUNTY LINE ON A BIGGER REGIONAL PROJECT WE SHOULD NOT BE OUTSIDE THE COUNTY. THANK YOU SO MUCH, LIEUTENANT, FOR SHEDDING LIGHT ON THAT. WHAT DID YOU FIND, TUCKER?

>> SO REGARDING THE FEES, SINCEE OCTOBER, THAT THOSE FEES DO NEED TO BE SET BEFORE OCTOBER THE 1ST.

THEY CAN BECOME EFFECTIVE IN JANUARY BUT NEED TO BE SET BY

Y'ALL TODAY. >> OKAY.

THEY WILL BE SET TODAY, COMMISSIONERS.

WE'RE NOT GETTING 53 THAT ONE BUT WE CAN CHOOSE AN EFFECTIVE

DATE. >> I GUESS THE ONE QUESTION I WOULD HAVE IS GIVEN THE LIEUTENANT'S COMMENTS ARE THERE ANY SUGGESTIONS FROM THE COURT OR COULD WE AMEND THE SCHEDULE THAT IS PROPOSED OR THAT WE JUST DISCUSSED, WHICH WAS JUST DISCUSSED, TO STATE THAT ANY -- MAYBE WE CAN PUT A TIME LIMIT ON THOSE EVENTS, AND I SAY THAT EIGHT HOURS OR IF IT'S LONGER

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THAN EIGHT HOURS, THERE'S AN ADDITIONAL FEE.

I MEAN, I'M ASKING THE LIEUTENANT, IS THAT SOMETHING

THAT WOULD WORK? >> FOR THE CONSTRUCTION COMMENT -- IF IT GOES OVER, SO AMEND THE POLICY TO SAY WE HAVE IS THAT -- WILL THAT -- I'M ASKING, WILL THAT WORK FOR YOU GUYS? FLAT RATE OF 100 AND THEN AN HOURLY CHARGE IN ADDITION? SHOULD THEY GO OVER THAT?

>> OVER EIGHT HOURS. THAT'S PRETTY UNIVERSAL?

>> THAT WOULD BE FINE. >> AND JUST TO COMPLETE THIS SO THAT VICKI DOESN'T WONDER, WHAT WOULD BE A REASONABLE -- VICKI, BASED ON THE THINGS YOU'VE SEEN, WHAT WOULD BE A REASONABLE HOURLY RATE, SAY THE CONSTRUCTION PIECE THAT THE LIEUTENANT BROUGHT UP? WE COULD SAY $100 FOR THE WHOLE EVENT AND THAT'S FOR AN EIGHT HOUR WINDOW.

SAY THEY GO 10 HOURS, WHAT SHOULD BE A REASONABLE TWO HOUR FEE, HOURLY RATE FEEL BEYOND THE EIGHT HOUR $100 COMMITMENT?

>> BASED ON THE RESEARCH ON THE $20 AN HOUR RATE IS STANDARD.

>> OKAY. SO IT'D BE $140 FOR A 10 HOUR

DAY. >> YEAH.

>> IS THE WAY WE CAN LOOK AT IT. COMMISSIONER SHELL, HOW DO YOU

SEE? >> SO WE'RE SAYING $100 FOR

EIGHT HOURS? >> $100 FOR EIGHT HOURS, WHERE

THAT WILL BE ALWAYS MOVING. >> WHY DON'T WE JUST MAKE IT THAT FOR FOUR HOURS AND DO $40 AN HOUR BEYOND FOUR HOURS?

>> I'D BE BETTER WITH THAT. >> LIKE TX-DOT ROAD WORK AND

STUFF LIKE THAT -- >> I THINK IT'S MORE IN LINE WITH ACTUAL COSTS. SO FOUR HOURS, BECAUSE WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE A FOOTBALL GAME OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT WHERE -- WE

HAVE TO DO LONGER THAN FOUR. >> SO $40 AN HOUR AFTER THE

$100? >> $20.

SO TO RECAP, $100 FOR FOUR-HOUR DAY AND $20 AN HOUR AFTER THAT.

>> YEAH. >> IF THE VEHICLES RUNNING.

>> IF THEY'RE USING THE VEHICLE UNDER THE ALL DAY ROAD MAP, SPECIFICALLY FOCUSING ON CONSTRUCTION.

>> AND THEN SO KEEP THE FLAT FEE FOR NON-USE OF THE VEHICLE?

>> THAT'S RIGHT. $20 FOR PARKED VEHICLES, WHERE THE UNIT IS ON DISPLAY TO SHOW SUPPORT FOR THE EVENT, BUT THE OFFICERS ACTUALLY DOING THE WORK.

$25 IF THEY'RE INVOLVED IN TRAFFIC CONTROL, SAY THE CAR IS RUNNING AND LIGHTS ARE ON AND THEY'RE DIRECTING TRAFFIC AND THEN THE $100 IS FOR FOUR HOURS AT $20 AN HOUR AFTER THAT, WHICH IS DIRECTLY TO BE FOCUSED ON CONSTRUCTION, HIGHWAY CONSTRUCTION TYPE PROJECTS. NOT SO MUCH COMMUNITY EVENTS.

IS THAT A GOOD RECAP, COMMISSION CENTERS.

>> I DON'T THINK -- I THINK IF WE SET THE RATE, WE CAN'T DIFFERENTIATE BETWEEN COMMUNITY EVENTS --

>> I WAS JUST GIVING THE EXAMPLE.

>> YEAH. I WOULD JUST SAY I DON'T THINK WE CAN ILL TRAIT THAT IN THE FEE SCHEDULE, BUT WE CAN SAY DEFINITELY IN COURT THAT'S THE PURPOSE OF IT.

>> I FEEL THAT WE DON'T LIKE THE OUT OF COUNTY USE OF OUR MARKED VEHICLES. HOW DO WE ADDRESS THAT?

>> TUCKER, WHO'S BEST TO ANSWER THAT?

>> THE DEPARTMENT HEAD. >> OKAY.

>> LT, CAN YOU -- YOU'RE STANDING, THAT'S WHY I'M NOT SURE. WE'RE JUST HAVING THE FINAL CONVERSATION ABOUT OUT-OF-COUNTY USE, BESIDES THE NEAR REGIONAL SUPPORT, BLATANT OUT-OF-COUNTY I-MET, WHATEVER YOU WANT TO SAY SOMEWHERE ELSE DOING WORK WITH A MARKED UNIT FOR HAYS COUNTY, THE COURT DOESN'T LIKE THAT. DO YOU GUYS HAVE ANY

RECOMMENDATION AS SOON AS. >> YOU KNOW ALLOW IT TO AN ADJACENT COUNTY, WHICH WOULD -- I MEAN, I'M THINKING OF A TOTAL OF THE COUNTIES -- I MEAN, WHAT, IT'S 2 MILES FROM WHERE WE ARE, 3 MILES. I'M JUST THINKING IF THERE IS AN EVENT THAT'S HAPPENING IN -- FOR INSTANCE, GAUT LOOP COUNTY ON THE OTHER SIDE -- GUADALUPE COUNTY, ON THE OTHER SIDE, MOST OF THAT TRAFFIC WAS COMING THROUGH HAYS COUNTY.

AND I HAVE A PROBLEM -- I DIDN'T HAVE A PROBLEM SEEING THE HAYS COUNTY OFFICER WORKING THAT EVENT BECAUSE ALL OF THOSE PEOPLE ARE COMING THROUGH OUR COMMUNITY, AND WOULD TRUST THEM TO ENSURE THE SAFETY OF OUR COMMUNITY WITH RESPECT TO THE SECURITY OF THAT EVENT. AND THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE HAS SAID THAT THEY DO. I'M JUST TRYING TO FIND SOMETHING TO ALLOW US IF WE DID HAVE AN EVENT WITH TRAVIS COUNTY OR GUADALUPE, THAT WE WOULD STILL HAVE THE ABILITY FOR OUR

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OFFICERS TO BE INVOLVED IN THAT, BECAUSE IN THE END I THINK IT'S GOOD FOR US IF THE TRAFFIC WILL BE IN OUR COUNTY, THE PEOPLE IN OUR COUNTY WILL HAVE OUR OFFICERS INVOLVED IN THE

SITUATION. >> AND JUST -- I WANT TO GIVE A FINER POINT TO WHAT YOU JUST SAID, COMMISSIONER, BECAUSE I AGREE WITH WHAT YOU'RE SAYING 100%, AND IT'S ALSO GOOD PARTNERS. SO IN THE LANE OF TRAFFIC CROSSY LINES, THAT MAKES PERFECT SENSE. AGAIN, THAT REGIONALISM I'M THINKING AS THE COMMISSIONER JUST SPOAG SPOKE, BUT TO SAY I'M GOING TO GO GIVE PRIVATE SECURITY TO ONE FACILITY OUTSIDE THE COUNTY WITH COUNTY ASSETS, THAT'S JUST PRIVATE SECURITY FOR ONE ADDRESS, THAT'S WHERE I THINK WE ARE TRYING TO STAY AWAY FROM THE.

>> WAS IT MAINLY TRAFFIC DEAL WILL WE'RE CONSIDERING? I MEAN, I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING AND SUPPORTIVE OF WHAT COMMISSIONER SHELL JUST STATED, BUT IS IT MAINLY TRAFFIC CONTROL THAT WE'RE TRYING TO ADDRESS? IS.

>> IT'S PROBABLY EVERYTHING, SECURITY, TRAFFIC CONTROL, THAT WOULD CREATE A SITUATION WHERE ALL SORTS OF ISSUES COULD BE --

>> WOULDN'T WE DIFFERENTIATE -- WHAT IF WE DIFFERENTIATE BETWEEN AND SAY THEY HAVE THE ABILITY TO WORK PUBLIC EVENTS IN ADJACENT COUNTIES. THAT GETS US TO THOSE LARGE-SCALE PUBLIC EVENTS WHERE WE'RE PARTNERING WITH THE OTHER SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENTS OR THE OTHER CONSTABLE OFFICES BUT GETS US AWAY FROM ONE OF OUR MARKED UNITS GUARDING, YOU KNOW, A GROCERY STORE IN DOWNTOWN AUSTIN.

IS THAT THE CLARIFICATION THAT MIGHT BE NEEDED?

>> DOES THAT HELP? >> PERSONALLY, I THINK WHATEVER DECISION IS MADE BY THE COURT, I THINK THAT THEY HAVE BEEN THERE, THAT IT WOULD BE AT DISCRETION OF THE ELECTED OFFICIAL FOR THAT AGENCY, THAT IT DOESN'T TAKE AWAY FROM THE SHERIFF TO SAY, NOW YOU GUYS CAN WORK OFF-DUTY JOBS WHERE HE SAYS NO WE DON'T WANT TO DO IT AND I THINK THAT FALLS BACK TO THE ELECTED OFFICIALS WHETHER OR NOT THEY'LL ALLOW THEIR OFFICERS TO WORK OUTSIDE THE COUNTY. THEY MAY NOT WANT THEIR DEPUTY CONSTABLES WORKING IN DOWNTOWN AUSTIN.

>> FOR SURE WITH DISCRETION -- >> I WANT TO ADD THAT COUGH YACHT IN THERE -- CAVEAT IN THERE.

SO THE CARS THAT WILL INCLUDE THE PERSON.

>> EACH ELECTED OFFICIAL CAN BE MORE RESTRITIVE.

>> I THINK THE ISSUE THAT WE ALL HAVE CONCERN WITH AND OUR CITIZENS WOULD HAVE CONCERN WITH IS IF YOU HAVE A WEDDING, A SIGNIFICANT WEDDING AT SOME LARGE CHURCH, IN BEXAR COUNTY, AND OUR OFFICER IS USING THE COUNTY-FUNDED VEHICLE TO PROVIDE -- WHETHER IT'S TRAFFIC CONTROL IN AND OUT OF THE CHURCH OR SECURITY AT THE RECEPTION BECAUSE THEY'RE SERVING ALCOHOL OR WHATEVER THAT WOULD BE, I DON'T THINK THE CITIZENS OF HAYS COUNTY WANT THE LIABILITY OF OUR VEHICLE BEING IN BEXAR COUNTY PROVIDING THAT SERVICE. BUT I DO THINK OUR CITIZENS WOULD UNDERSTAND WHEN FLOAT FEST -- AND THERE'S 100,000 PEOPLE CRAMMED ALL OVER OUR COUNTY, DRIVING ON OUR ROADS, THAT HAVING OFFICERS THERE THAT KNOW HAYS COUNTY AND REPRESENT OUR CITIZENS WOULD BE FINE WITH ME BECAUSE I WOULD RATHER HAVE THEM THERE MAKING SURE THAT THAT IS SAFE, BECAUSE IT COULD IMPACT MY LIFE OR MY CHILD'S SAFETY THAT DAY OR ANYTHING ELSE.

SO THAT'S WHERE I'M TRYING TO DRAW THE DISCRETION.

>> I AGREE. >> AND I DON'T KNOW HOW BEST TO PUT THAT IN A POLICY BUT THAT'S MY CONCERN IS I DON'T THINK OUR CITIZENS WANT TO SEE OUR VEHICLE, WHICH WE PAY GOOD MONEY FOR, WE'RE LIABLE FOR BEING USED FOR PRIVATE SECURITY.

>> VERY WELL. VICKI, WHEN YOU REWIND THIS VIDEO, WILL YOU BE ABLE TO SAY THE COURT'S INTENT THIS DIRECTION ABOUT OUT-OF-COUNTY USE WHERE ADJACENT COUNTIES -- WE COULD STICK TO THAT IDEA -- AND FOR LARGE EVENTS, NOT PRIVATE SECURITY FOR A SPECIFIC ADDRESS.

>> I WOULD JUST SAY PUBLIC EVENTS.

>> PUBLIC EVENTS. >> DO YOU HAVE ENOUGH TO GO ON TO ARTICULATE THAT AND THEN JUST SHARE WITH THOSE THAT YOU HAVE

IMPACTED WITH. >> AND -- INTERACTED WITH.

>> AND IF THE COURT CHOOSES WE COULD ALWAYS HAVE A WRITTEN POLICY AND BRING IT BACK AS LONG AS THE FEES ARE SET TODAY.

>> OKAY, PERFECT. >> I WOULD ASK MAYBE TUCKER TO GET WITH OUR CURRENT POLICIES AND MAKE SURE THERE'S LANGUAGE THAT'S INCLUDED THAT ALLOWS, FOR INSTANCE, THE -- I DON'T CARE IF THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT SAYS THESE ARE THE EVENTS YOU'RE ALLOWD TO WORK AND ARE THESE OUR VEHICLES.

SO TO ME IF WE COULD COME UP WITH SOMETHING LIKE THAT, THE FEES HAVE TO BE ADOPTED TODAY BUT THE POLICY CAN BE REFINED.

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>> MORE RESTRICTIVE CAN BE DONE BY THE ELECTED OFFICIAL DEPARTMENT HEAD, LESS RESTRICTIVE, AND WE'RE REFERENCING THE VEHICLE, NO. OKAY.

AND THEN HAD YOU A COMMENT? >> YES.

I THINK -- WE JUST NEED TO NAIL DOWN WHAT WAIVERS THAT YOU GUYS ARE GOING TO AUTHORIZE THE ELECTED OFFICIALS TOENED NOT CHARGE. SO LIKE WITH THE FUNERAL AS, DURING THE DAY OF A NORMAL WORKWEEK, WE WOULD NOT CHARGE BECAUSE IT'S NOT CONSIDERED OFF-DUTY WORK BUT WHEN THEY'RE WORKING A FUNERAL ON A SATURDAY OR SUNDAY, THAT WOULD BE CONSIDERED OFF DUTY, SO THE COURT HAS TO AUTHORIZE WHATEVER WAIVERS ARE YOU GOING TO ALLOW THEM TO NOT CHARGE FOR.

PRIOR IT WAS NOT APPROVED FOR ANY WAIVERS SO I THINK THEY SHOULD BE CHARGING -- I KNOW THAT WAS BROUGHT UP BUT I DON'T

KNOW IF THERE WAS ANY -- >> I DON'T THINK THERE WAS A GENERAL CONSENSUS AMONGST THE CONSTABLES.

IS THAT A FAIR STATEMENT?

>> NO. REGARDING THE OTHER WAIVERS IN ADDITION TO THE FUNERAL ESCORTS. MY POINT, AND I HAD THIS CONVERSATION WITH CONSTABLE HOOD YESTERDAY, IS THAT GIVING THE ABILITY TO VARIOUS ELECTED OFFICIALS TO GRANT WAIVERS AS THEY SEE FIT INSTEAD OF PUTTING IN A POLICY, SETS US UP FOR SOME REAL ISSUES, AND I THINK THERE'S SOME AGREEMENT AMONGST --

EVERYBODY'S NODDING THEIR HEAD. >> WE NEED CONSISTENCY.

>> YEAH. AND SO IF WE KEEP IT CONSISTENT, THE ONLY AVAILABLE WAIVER IS OUR FUNERAL SERVICES, THEN I THINK IT'S A SET POLICY THAT WE CAN ALL BE IN GREET WITH.

>> I THINK WE GOT THAT FROM YOUR PRESENTATION AND THE ONLY WAIVER

WILL BE FOR FUNERAL SERVICES. >> THE $100 FLAT FEE FOR THE FOUR HOURS AND THEN COULD WE MAKE THE REMAINING $25 AN HOUR WITH THE VEHICLES CONTINUOUSLY BEING USED?

>> THAT'S A GOOD IDEA. CONSISTENCY.

THANK YOU FOR CATCHING THAT COMMENT.

WE APPRECIATE IT. OKAY, VICKI, DID YOU CATCH ALL OF THOSE DETAILS? IT WILL BE, JUST TO RECAP, $20 FOR THE POLICE OFFICER TO SHOW UP IN A MARKED UNIT AND STAND THERE AND USE THE CAR AS A VISUAL SHOW OF SUPPORT.

$25 IF THEY'RE WORKING TRAFFIC. $100 FOR AN ALL DAY, CALLED A FOUR-HOUR DAY, AND $25 PER HOUR AFTER THE FOUR HOURS, AND THE ONLY VARIABLE -- THE ONLY WAIVER IS FOR FUNERAL SERVICES AND ONLY ADJACENT COUNTIES FOR LARGE PUBLIC EVENTS AND NOT FOR SPECIFICALLY ADDRESSED GROCERY STORES.

DID I MISS ANYTHING, COMMISSIONERS?

>> YOU'RE FINE. >> YOU GOT IT.

>> WE NEED TO CLARIFY ONE THING. ARE THEY DEPARTMENT-ISSUED VEHICLES, BECAUSE WE DO USE UNMARKED VEHICLES.

OUR POLE FEED IS VERY LIMITED RIGHT NOW, SO IF WE COULD CHANGE THE MARKED UNIT DEPARTMENT-ISSUED UNIT, THAT

WOULD HELP. >> LIEUTENANT, DOES THAT MAKE

SENSE? >> WITH THAT CLARIFICATION, I WOULD JUST GO AHEAD AND MOVE FOR ADOPTION OF THE RATE SCHEDULE AS

RECAPPED BY THE JUDGE. >> THANK YOU.

>> SECOND. >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. PLEASE CALL THE ROLL ]

[K5. Discussion and possible action to appoint a Justice of the Peace, Precinct 2 Place 2 effective 10/1/2023 pursuant to Texas Local Government Code Chapter 87.041. COHEN]

RECESS. DOCTOR, OPEN K5.

>> DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO APPOINT A JUSTICE OF THE PEACE, PRECINCT 2, PLACE 2, EFFECTIVE OCTOBER 1ST, 2023 PURSUANT TO TEXAS LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE CHAPTER 87.041.

>> SO MOVED. >> SECOND.

>> COMMISSIONER COHEN, YOU AND COMMISSIONER INGLESBE WERE CHARGED WITH GOING THROUGH ALL APPLICANTS BASED ON YOUR RECOMMENDATION AND YOUR SUGGESTION, WERE GOING TO BUILT A NEWLY CREATED POSITION, JUSTICE OF THE PEACE, PRECINCT 2, PLACE 2. AND SO MY QUESTION TO YOU NOW

IS -- >> THANK YOU, JUDGE.

SO IN TE SPIRIT OF TRANSPARENCY, I WOULD LIKE TO RECAP THE PROCESS OF SELECTING THE NEW JUSTICE OF THE PEACE PRECINCT 2, PLACE 2. WE STARTED WORKING WITH SHERRY

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MILLER, DIRECTOR OF HR, IN CREATION OF THE POSTING.

WE POSTED A JOB FOR TWO WEEKS. AFTER THE CLOSING OF THAT POST, WE RECEIVED 10 APPLICANTS, SO THE OFFICIAL INITIAL SCAN WAS JUST TO QUALIFY THAT THEY ACTUALLY LIVED IN THE PRECINCT.

FROM THAT SCAN WE HAD TO ELIMINATE 4 APPLICATIONS FROM THAT. SO THE REMAINDER OF THE APPLICATIONS WE REVIEWED BASED ON EDUCATION, EXPERIENCES, SKILL SET OF THEIR APPLICATION. SO FROM THAT -- FROM THOSE POLITICIANS, WE IDENTIFIED FOUR APPLICANTS THAT WE THOUGHT WERE -- THAT WE CHOSE TO INTERVIEW.

SO WE HELD THOSE INTERVIEWS LAST -- LAST FRIDAY OR THURSDAY.

>> YEAH, THURSDAY, AND IN THAT MEETING WAS MYSELF, COMMISSIONER INGLESBE, JUDGE ANDY CABLE AND DIRECTOR SHERRY MILLER.

SO WE HAD PREPARED QUESTIONS FOR EACH CANDIDATE; THEY ALL RECEIVED THE SAME QUESTIONS. AND JUDGE CABLE WAS KIND ENOUGH TO BASICALLY DESCRIBE WHAT THE POSITIONS ENTAILED.

SO THEY ACTUALLY KNEW WHAT THEY WERE GETTING INTO, WHICH WAS A GREAT PROCESS TO INCLUDE. AFTER ALL OF OUR INTERVIEWS WERE COMPLETED, WE EACH ANONYMOUSLY RANKED OUR CANDIDATES, WHICH WE THEN GAVE TO SHERRY MILLER TO TALLY, AND IT WAS UNANIMOUS TO SELECT MR. JR MENDOSA. HE WAS THE TOP CANDIDATE IN ALL OF OUR SELECTIONS, AND I AM JUST SUPER EXCITED TO APPOINT MR. MENDOSA TO THIS POSITION. IF THE COURT PLEASES.

>> WONDERFUL. COMMISSIONER INGLESBE, ANYTHING

ELSE TO CONTRIBUTE? >> I WILL SAY THAT ALL OF THE APPLICANTS THAT WE INTRUDE WERE ALL -- INTERVIEWED WERE VERY QUALIFIED AND WE HAD A GREAT SELECTION AND I WANT TO THANK JUDGE CABLE FOREATTENDING A RUNDOWN OF WHAT THE OFFICE DOES AND I THINK IT WAS VERY HELPFUL IN THAT INTERVIEWING PROCESS.

BUT AS COMMISSIONER COHEN STATED, I THINK WE ALL FELT THAT JR MENDOSA WAS THE TOP CANDIDATE, HIGHLY QUALIFIED AND WANTED TO BRING THAT RECOMMENDATION BACK TO THE COURT

FOR OUR CONSIDERATION ITSELF. >> I WILL SAY THAT I LIKE TO TRUST BUT VERIFY AND I WAS ASKED FOR -- OF COURSE YOU CAN IMAGINE WHEN WE HAVE THE EXCITEMENT OF CREATING A NEW POSITION LIKE WE DID ON THE CONGRESSIONAL LEVEL AND WE'VE GOT A STATE REP, JUST EVERYTHING THAT'S HAPPENING IN THIS COUNTY, FASTEST GROWING COUNTY IN THE NATION, THIS IS AN ABSOLUTE NATURAL EVOLUTION OF OUR CONTINUED GROWTH, IS TO CREATE THIS POSITION.

SO THEREOF A LOT OF ENERGY BEHIND IT AND I WAS RECEIVING A LOT OF CALLS AND NERVOUSNESS AND SOME FOLKS DON'T ALWAYS KNOW HOW TO HANDLE THEIR NERVOUSNESS AND SO I WANTED TO HAVE THE MOST DEPENDABLE -- BECAUSE I TRUST YOU 100%.

I WANTED TO HAVE THE MOST DEFENDABLE APPROACH TO ALL OF THE QUESTIONS ASKED, SO I REACHED OUT TO MS. MILLER, SHE PROVIDED ME SOME OF THE BACK-UP INFORMATION YOU USED AS TOOLS.

SO I'M VERY COMFORTABLE NOT ONLY WITH YOUR DESCRIPTION, BUT WITH YOUR PROCESS. AND I JUST WANT TO REMIND FOLKS, EVERYONE OUT THERE WATCHING, THAT THIS IS AN APPOINTED POSITION AND YOU CAN RUN FOR IT OR HONESTLY -- SINCE IT'S A BRAND-NEW POSITION, IT WOULD BE EVERYONE INCLUDING JR -- RUN FOR IT FOR NOVEMBER 24 -- SO THIS IS A SHORT APPOINTMENT.

AN OPEN SEAT IS ONE WAY TO LOOK AT IT.

THERE IS NO INCUMBENT, ALTHOUGH, THERE IS AN APPOINTMENT.

AND JUST KNOW THAT IT IS A MOST MAGNIFICENT THING THAT WE GET THE PRIVILEGE OF DOING HERE IN HAYS COUNTY COMMISSIONERS COURT TO GO THROUGH THIS PROCESS AND I JUST -- HATS OFF TO YOU, COMMISSIONERS AND MS. MILLER, FOR ALL OF THE WORK THAT YOU'VE DONE. COMMISSIONERS, COMMENTS,

QUESTIONS? >> I WANT TO THANK COMMISSIONER COHEN AND COMMISSIONER INGLESBE, GREAT PROCESS THAT YOU ALL TOOK THE TIME TO DO THAT. IT'S TRADITIONALLY APPOINTED WITH PRECINCT BOUNDARIES, YOU KNOW, USUALLY LEAD TO THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE COMMISSIONERS, AND I KNOW Y'ALL HAVE DONE A GREAT JOB AND GREAT RECOMMENDATION.

I'VE HEARD GREAT THINGS ABOUT MR. MENDOSA.

I APPRECIATE YOU ALL PUTTING THAT TOGETHER.

>> I KNOW WHEN WE FIRST TALKED ABOUT THIS AND I STATED THEN THAT I WAS FULLY CONFIDENT THAT Y'ALL, ALONG WITH THE TWO JPS THAT REALLY HAD THE MOST IMPACT OVER THERE -- IF THERE WAS INPUT BY THEM, I WOULD BE HAPPY WITH WHOMEVER Y'ALL SELECTED OR CHOSE TO NOMINATE. I DID ASK IN THAT PROCESS THAT

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MS. MILLER SHARE ALL OF THE CANDIDATES WITH THE REST OF THE COURT. SO IF THERE WAS ANYTHING THAT TELLS WE GOT FROM OUR CONSTITUENTS, THAT WE COULD SHARE THAT. AFTER THAT SELECTION -- OR THE CUTTINGDOWN TO THE FOLKS WHO WERE JUST LIVING WITHIN A PRECINCT I GOT NOTHING BUT GREAT COMMENTS ON ALL OF THE CANDIDATES AND I WILL SAY THAT I GOT PROBABLY SEVEN OR EIGHT PHONE CALLS OR MR. -- ON MR. MENDOSA.

>> SO I'M HAPPY WITH THAT. >> I MOVE TO PROMOTE MR. MENDOSA TO THE OFFICE OF THE PEACE PURSUANT TO THE GOVERNMENT CODE

CHAPTER 87.01. >> A MOTION AND A SECOND.

WE'VE ALREADY HAD OUR HE VOTES...

PLEASE CALL THE ROLL

>> YES. ANY WORDS?

NO? >> ANY WORDS? CONGRATULATIONS, CONGRATULATIONS,

CONGRATULATIONS. >> LET ME BE THE FIRST TO CALL

YOU JUDGE. >> THANK YOU, I APPRECIATE THAT.

I'M HUMBLED TO BE OF SERVICE AND CURRENTLY AT SAN MARCOS EAST BUT WILL FOCUS ON PRECINCT 2 AND THE REST OF THE COUNTY WHEN NEEDED.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND THE OPPORTUNITY DO THIS.

>> BEAUTIFUL. AND THANK YOU.

AND I SPOKE WITH MS. MILLER ABOUT YOUR TIME TO TURN, AND JUST AS SOON AS SMPD ALLOWS YOU TO GO, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE AS A COUNTY PROVIDE YOU NOT ONLY THE FULL PROFESSIONAL RESPONSIBILITY AND SUPPORT WITH YOUR CURRENT EMPLOYER BUT JUST AS QUICKLY BE READY TO STEP ON AS OUR NEWEST JP.

>> I APPRECIATE THAT. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU, SIR. >> AND JUDGE, JUST ONE LAST THING, I WANT TO THANK SHERRY MILLER FOR HER PARTICIPATION.

SHE REFINED SOME OF THE QUESTIONS AND JUST ADDED, YOU KNOW, A FEW MORE AND -- THAT WERE REALLY FOREIGN ASK, AND SO

[K3. Hold a public hearing in accordance with Section 293.101 of the Texas Health and Safety Code, to discuss, consider, and take appropriate action on the proposed mandatory payment rate to be assessed on institutional healthcare providers in fiscal year (FY) 2024 pursuant to the County Health Care Provider Participation Program. SHELL/T.CRUMLEY]

THANK YOU, SHERRY, FOR YOUR HELP.

>> WELL DONE. >> OKAY.

NEXT PLEASE, OPEN K3. >> K3.

S HEALED PUBLIC HEARING OF THE TEXAS HEALTH AND SAFETY CODE TO DISCUSS, CONSIDER AND TAKE APPROPRIATE ACTIONS ON THE PROPOSED MANDATORY PAYMENT RATE TO BE ASSESSED ON INSTITUTIONAL HEALTHCARE PROVIDERS IN FISCAL YEAR 2024 PURSUANT TO THE COUNTY HEALTHCARE PROVIDER PARTICIPATION PROGRAM.

>> AND NOW I WILL OPEN THIS PUBLIC HEARING.

THOSE WISHING TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS AGENDA ITEM, PLEASE

APPROACH THE PODIUM. >> GOOD MORNING, JUDGE AND COMMISSIONER. MY NAME IS ROBIN OLDUM AND I REPRESENT -- WE WORK WITH ALL OF THE LARGE HEALTH CARE PROVIDERS IN THE COMMUNITY, HELPING THEM TO NAVIGATE THE WAYS OF GETTING REIMBURSED FOR A LOT OF THE CARE THAT THEY PROVIDE TO UNINSURED AND UNDERINSURED PATIENTS. THOSE ON MEDICAID AND THOSE WHO DON'T HAVE INSURANCE. OUR HOSPITALS LOSE LOTS OF MONEY EVERY TIME THAT ONE OF THESE PATIENTS WALK IN THE DOOR, BUT THEY TREAT THEM NO MATTER WHAT AND NEVER TURN ANYONE AWAY.

SO ONE OF THE WAYS THAT THEY BRING BACK SOME OF THOSE DOLLARS IS THROUGH FEDERALLY AVAILABLE FUNDS AND THERE ARE SEVERAL PROGRAMS OUT THERE IN WHICH THESE HOSPITALS CAN ACCESS SOME KIND OF REIMBURSEMENT TO COMPENSATE THEM FOR THE CARE THAT THEY'RE PROVIDING. ONE OF THOSE -- ONE OF THE WAYS THAT THEY ACCESS THOSE FUNDS IS THROUGH THE LOCAL PROVIDER PARTICIPATION FUND AND THAT IS SOMETHING THAT YOU GUYS HAVE BEEN AUTHORIZED IN 2015, AND THE PROVIDERS AND US ARE SO GRATEFUL TO EVERYTHING THAT YOU GUYS HAVE DONE OVER THE LAST -- I GUESS IT'S BEEN EIGHT YEARS NOW. SINCE 2015, THE LBPF HAVE HELPED HOSPITALS ACCESS OVER $250 MILLION FOR THIS COMMUNITY, WHICH IS JUST REALLY INCREDIBLE. SO I DON'T KNOW THAT THERE'S ANY HOSPITALS OR HOSPITAL REPRESENTATIVES IN THE ROOM TODAY, I HEARD FROM GERONIMO RODRIGUEZ FROM ASCENSION WHO IS IN D.C. TODAY, BUT HE WISHED HE COULD BE HERE.

SO HE SENDS HIS THANKS AND SUPPORT FOR THE RATE AND ALSO

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BILL WALINSKY HAS SENT HIS SUPPORT AND HELD UP TODAY TOO.

BUT THEY BOTH WISH THEY COULD BE HERE.

THIS YEAR THE PROVIDERS ARE REQUESTING A RATE OF 6% FOR THE LBPF AND THAT WOULD GENERATE A LITTLE OVER $50 MILLION IN PAYMENTS THIS YEAR, THAT'S ESTIMATED TO HELP BRING INTO THE HOSPITALS. IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS, I'M

HAPPY TO ANSWER. >> BEAUTIFUL, AND THANK YOU.

IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS AGENDA ITEM BEFORE WE CLOSE IT? I SEE NO MOVEMENT.

AND SO VICKI, COMMISSIONER SNELL.

>> THANKS, JUDGE. AS ROBIN MENTIONED, THE LEGISLATURE CREATED THE LBPF FOR HAYS COUNTY IN 2015.

WE WERE -- THERE WAS A HANDFUL AND SOME OTHER PARTS OF THE COUNTY AT THAT TIME, SINCE THERE'S A LOT MORE SINCE 2015, BUT IT WAS FAIRLY NEW IN 2015. IT WAS DURING TRANSITIONS WITH THE 1115 WAIVER PROGRAM, NEGOTIATIONS BETWEEN THE FEDS AND THE STATE, A WAIVER TO SECTIONS OF THE SOCIAL SECURITY ACT AND THAT WAIVER IS ALLOWED IN SECTION 1115, SO THE LBPF HAS FUNDED OUR HOSPITALS IN DIFFERENT WAYS OVER THE TIME, INITIALLY IT WAS FOR THE MOST PART UNCOMPENSATED CARE AND A FEW PROGRAMS, DELIVERY RESISTANCE AND PERFORMANCE. I DON'T BELIEVE ANY MORE OF THOSE PROJECTS ARE BEING FUNDED. FOR THE MOST PART, THEY ARE NOW IN WHAT I CALL THE SECOND OR THIRD GENERATION OF ENHANCED PAYMENTS CHART, AND COMPREHENSIVE HOSPITAL INCREASE REIMBURSEMENT PROGRAM, WHICH SUR PLANTED THE UNIFORM HOSPITAL RATE INCREASE PROGRAM WHICH WAS PUT IN PLACE A FEW YEARS AGO.

SO THESE HOSPITALS ARE ABLE TO GET COMPENSATED FOR FUNDS THAT THEY WEREN'T ABLE TO COLLECT AND RATE ENHANCEMENTS BASED ON MEDICAID RATE. FOR THOSE THAT THEY TREAT THEY GET TO CALCULATE THAT AND RECEIVE ENHANCED PAYMENTS WITH THE FUNDS THAT ARE SENT IN NATIONAL FEDERAL DOLLARS.

SO IT'S BEEN VERY IMPORTANT TO OUR HOSPITALS AND HEALTHCARE IN GENERAL HERE, NOT JUST IN HAYS COUNTY, BUT IN THIS REGION.

WE'VE BEEN DOING THIS FOR A WHILE NOW.

I WANT TO CONFIRM THE RATE IS 6%, IS THAT CORRECT?

>> THAT'S CORRECT. >> SO I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO SET OUR RATE AT 6% FOR THE HAYS COUNTY LOCAL PROVIDER

PARTICIPATION FUND. >> SECOND.

>> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

WOULD YOU LIKE TO TELL THE VIEWING PUBLIC WHAT IT'S

CURRENTLY AT? >> I BELIEVETH 6% RIGHT NOW.

>> SO THE REQUEST IS NO CHANGE. >> CORRECT.

>> I WOULD ALWAYS COME IN ASKING FOR MORE.

>> IF WE COULD, WE WOULD. THIS IS THE CAP.

PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

>> YES

AND THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU.

ON TO THE NEXT ONE. >> I SEE REPRESENTATIVE FROM LASIMA HERE. DO WE WANT TO GO STRAIGHT THAT

[K2. Discussion and possible action to adopt an order of the Commissioners Court of Hays County, Texas accepting and approving the 2023 Annual Service Plan Update to the Service and Assessment Plan (SAP) including updated Major Improvement Area assessment roll, Neighborhood Improvement Area #1 assessment roll, Neighborhood Improvement Area #2 assessment roll, and Neighborhood Improvement Area #3 assessment roll for the La Cima Public Improvement District (PID); making and adopting findings; providing a cumulative repealer clause; and providing an effective date. SHELL]

ONE BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO CUT THIS OFF FOR OUR WORKSHOP.

>> K2. >> K2, PLEASE.

>> K2, WE COME HERE EVERY DAY WITH AN UPDATE. CHAPTER 372, LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE ALSO KNOWN AS THE PIT ACT REQUIRES THAT WE FILE AN ANNUAL.

ASSESSMENT EVERY YEAR... AND UPDATE THE ASSESSMENT ROLES RELATED TO THAT. THESE THE STOP ACCEPTS FOR SEVERAL

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THINGS BUT SOME OF THE MAIN AREA OF THE LA SIMA PIT.OVEMENT- WE ARE UP TO THREE CURRENTLY. IT DETAILS ANY IMPROVEMENTS DONE, NOTES ON ASSOCIATIONS WITH THE DISTRICT, PAYMENT MADE INCLUDING ANY PREPAYMENT IN FULL OR IN PART, THAT INCLUDES BUDGET FORECAST AND DETAILS OF THE ASSESSMENT ROLES RELATED TO EACH INDIVIDUAL PARCEL WITHIN THE DISTRICT AMONGST OTHER THINGS.

THE ASSESSMENT ROLES ARE FILED WITH THE TAX ASSESSOR TO BE INCLUDED IN THE ANNUAL BILLS TO PROPERTY OWNERS RELATED TO THE SPECIAL ASSESSMENTS AND A COPY OF THE RULES ARE FILED WITH THE COUNTY CLERK'S OFFICE. FUTURE CURRENT AND FUTURE PROPERTY OWNERS ON EVERYTHING RELATED TO THIS DOCUMENT.

I DO HAVE OUR PIT ADMINISTRATOR JOHN SCHNEIDER HERE IN CASE YOU HAVE QUESTIONS RELATED TO THE SAP OR THE ASSESSMENT ROLES.

>> COMMISSIONER. >> THANKS, JUDGMENT ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS ANY WANTED TO ASK DO WE NEED TO DECLARE AN EFFECTIVE DATE? IT SAYS THERE WAS AN EFFECTIVE DATE NEEDED FOR SOMETHING WE WOULD HAVE TO ADOPT THE ORDER

FOR THIS UPDATE. >> IF YOU READ THE ITEM, THAT IS

SUFFICIENT. >> COMMISSIONERS ANY QUESTIONS

OR COMMENTS? >> I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO ADOPT THE SERVICE PLAN TO THE ASSESSMENT AND . . .

NEIGHBORHOOD NUMBER 3 ASSESSMENT ROLE FOR SIMA PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT MAKING AND ADOPTING FIN

FINDINGS. >> WHAT IS THAT EFFECTIVE DAY?

>> I THINK THAT WILL ALLOW. >> PLEAS CALL THE ROLE.

[L1. 11:00 a.m. - Budget Workshop regarding the Fiscal Year 2024 budget. Possible action may follow. BECERRA/DORSETT]

>> L-1 BUDGET WORKSHOP REGARDING THE FISCAL YEAR 2024 BUDGET

POSSIBLE ACTION MAY FOLLOW. >> AND WE ARE OPENING THIS WORKSHOP AND WE WILL HAND IT OVER TO OUR BUDGET OFFICER VICKY

DORSETT. >> GOOD MORNING.

SO, TODAY WE HAVE ONE SOCIAL SERVICE AGENCY SIGNED UP, SITSY, MRS. ROGERS WAS GOING TO BE HERE.

I JUST E-MAILED HER. SHE DID WANT TO PRESENT SOME INFORMATION TO YOU FOR ADDITIONAL FUNDING.

WE ALSO NEED TO DISCUSS OUR SALARY REPLACEMENT AND NEW SALARY CHART SO SHERRY MILLER IS GOING TO BE OVER THAT.

I HAVE A IMPACT IT OF ITEMS WE WILL GO OVER THIS AFTERNOON TO CONSIDER PRIOR TO THE PUBLIC HEARING AND IF THERE ARE ANY OTHER THINGS THAT THE COURT WOULD LIKE TO BRING UP WE CAN

ADD AS WELL. >> OKAY, PERFECT.

SO THERE SHE IS. ALL YOURS, THE STAGE IS YOURS.

>> GOOD TIMING. >> MISS ALVARADO.

I CAN PASS THE OTHERS. >> GOOD MORNING AGAIN, AND I APOLOGIZE FOR MAKING YOU WAIT. MY NAME IS GINA ALIVIA ROGERS, I'M CHAIRMAN FOR THE INDIGENOUS COMMUNITY SINCERELY APPRECIATE WHAT YOU HAVE US IN THE PAST AND I WANT TO SHARE WITH YOU THE

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WORK WE HAVE COMPLETED SINCE YEAR.

EARLIER THIS YEAR WE ACKNOWLEDGED AND CELEBRATED A PROCLAMATION HONORING HISPANIC. AS SITSY CONTINUES TO CELEBRATE THESE FAMILIES INTO 2024 WE ARE ASKING FOR FUNDING OF $25,000.

THIS ADDITIONAL MONEY WILL ALLOW US TO FURTHER CONDUCT MUCH NEEDED RESEARCH ON THE EARLIEST SETTLE HAYS COUNTY AND THOROUGHLY DOCUMENT THEIR CONTRIBUTIONS.

POWER POINT PRESENTATION WHEN YOU'RE READY.

SO, EARLIER THIS YEAR, SITSY WAS GRANTED FOR THE SECOND YEAR IN A ROW AN UNDER TOLD HISTORICAL MARKER.

SO, THIS MARKERS IS FOR THE DARSA FAMILY MEXICAN AMERICAN COMMUNITY. THERE WERE ONLY 61 APPLICATIONS APPROVED FROM 42 COUNTIES THROUGHOUT THE STATE.

MORE THAN SIX MONTHS HAS BEEN DEDICATED TO RESEARCH AND COLLABORATION WITH TEXAS STATE UNIVERSITY INTERN.

IN JANUARY WE COORDINATED . . . WE TALKED ABOUT THAT MARKER TODAY. WHERE I LOCATED AN 1809 CENSUS .

. . IN JANUARY, AND IN JULY, SITSY MEMBERS WERE INVITED TO DIVA MEMOIR'S WORK SHOP ON HOW TO DEVELOP FAMILY TREES.

EACH WORKSHOP HAS BEEN VERY WELL ATTENDED.

IN APRIL, THE COMMUNITY WAS INVITED TO A DEDICATION UNVEILING CEREMONY FOR THE . . . COMMUNITY HALL.

THE RENAMING OF THE BUILDING WAS SOLELY NAMED ON SITSY RESEARCH NOMINATION AND HISTORICAL PRESENTATION TO THE CITY OF SAN MARCOS. SITSY MEMBERS HAVE COMPLETED FIVE FULL INTERVIEWS OF FAMILIES WHO HAVE LIVED IN LOWCOUNTRY FOR

MORE THAN A HUNDRED YEARS. >> EACH PERSON IS INTERVIEWED TWICE FOR ONE HOUR. PROUDLY, SITY MEMBERS HAVE PARTICIPATED WITH BOARD MEMBERS AND ASSISTED WITH THE DEDICATION AND UNVEILING CEREMONY FOR FARTY WAS ORIGINALLY PREPARED IN 2018 BY TWO OF OUR FOUNDING MEMBERS. SITSY MEMBERS ATTENDED THE ANNUAL TEXAS HISTORICAL COMMISSION CONFERENCE WHERE WE LEARNED EARLIER THIS AND UNDER TOLD MARKER HAD BEEN GRANTED.

WE HAD BEEN INVITED TO SHARE ORAL HISTORY WITH THE COMMUNITY ONE AT THE TEXAS ORAL HISTORY OESHL MEETING AT TEXAS STATE UNIVERSITY. WE WERE INVITED TO GIVE A PRESENTATION AS WELL AS AND SPEAKER SERIES TO HONOR HISPANIC HERITAGE MONTH EARLIER THIS MONTH OTHER TOPIC OF DISCUSSION WAS WHAT METHODS AND PRACTICES SHOULD WE FOLLOW IN SHARING DISENFRANCHISED TEXAS HISTORY. SITSY THIS IS THE STORY ABOUT IG NAYSIO AND HIS WIFE MANUELA. LIKE OTHER MIGRANT FAMILIES THE GARZAS WOULD FOLLOW THE HARVEST AND RETURN TO SAN MARCOS AND PURCHASE MORE PROPERTY AND RESELL THE LAND TO OTHER MEXICAN AMERICAN FAMILIES. SO, BY THE 1960S AND 70S, THE CITY URBANRY NEW COMMUNITY . . . WITH 1500 PEOPLE WERE ASKED TO MOVE THAT LAND IS NOW CONSIDERED RIO VISTA PARK.

THIS IS THE ANNOUNCEMENT, AND FAR TO THE RIGHT YOU'LL SEE AN 1895 PLAT. THIS IS THE RIO VISTA PARK THAT BACK THEN WAS THERE WERE LOTS. IT IS BOARDED BY CHEAT HAMSTREET THE RAILROAD TRACKS AND THAT WAS CLEARED OUT TO MAKE WAY FOR RIO VISTA PARK. THIS IS THE FAMILY.

IT'S PRETTY AMAZING IF YOU LOOK AT THESE FAMILIES, THEY'RE JUST A WONDERFUL REPRESENTATIONS OF THE HISTORY OF A THRIVING MEXICAN AMERICAN COMMUNITY IN SAN MARCOS, WE HAVE BEEN WORKING

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IN PARTNERSHIP. WE ALSO CHAMPIONED TEXAS HISTORICAL COMMISSION FOR A REPLACEMENT MARK THERE WAS CELEBRATED THIS MORNING WITH A PROCLAMATION.

THE REDEDICATION CEREMONY WAS SO SIGNIFICANT TO TEXAS HISTORY AND CENTRAL TEXAS HISTORY, SPECIFICALLY BECAUSE FOR NOT ONLY I THINK THE MOST IMPORTANT PART OF THAT NARRATIVE WAS THAT THE JOURNALS THAT WERE KEPT BY DE LA PORTILLA TALK ABOUT THE INDIGENOUS AND FATE I HAVE AMERICANS IN THE AREA SO IT WAS SO SIGNIFICANT FOR HISTORY FOUR TEXAS PROFESSORS ATTENDED THE CEREMONY. WE HAD A DEDICATION FOR . . . AT COMMUNITY HALL. THIS WORK WAS CONDUCTED WAS BASED SOLELY ON OUR RESEARCH PETITION AND REQUEST FOR THE RENAMING OF THIS HALL AND IT WAS GRANTED SO THAT TOOK PLACE IN APRIL OF THIS YEAR. CENTURY OF TEJANO HAYS COUNTY HISTORY WE HAVE BEEN WORKING ON THIS PROJECT FOR A WHILE, FURTHER ON HOW WONDERFUL IT HAS BEEN TELL THESE STORIES OF SOME OF OUR SENIORS. SITSY PRESENTED A PROCLAMATION FOR . . . THIS IS A PHOTO AND THE EXTENT AND THE EXTENT SITSY MEMBERS HAVE GONE TO TO MAKE SURE THAT MARKER WAS INSTALLED, WE ACTUALLY ENDED UP HAVING TO RELOCATE SOMEONE TO VOLUNTEER SOME OF THEIR TIME TO INSTALL THE MARKER SO IT WAS JUST SOMETHING THAT WE ARE WILLING TO PURSUE AND NOT ONLY PURSUE BUT TO ACCOMPLISH WITH OUR WORK AND DEDICATION.

SITSY OF COURSE WAS INVISITED BY THE EL COMEDIAN OH REAL EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR TO NOT ONLY ATTEND BUT SHARE TEJANO HISTORY MEETING THAT WAS HELD IN BASTROP.

THIS PARTICULAR SLIDE WE ARE GOING TO TALK ABOUT LATER BUT IT'S ABOUT INTERIVE PANELS AND I TOOK SOME PHOTOGRAPHS THAT I LOCATED SOME OF THEM FROM TRAVIS COUNTY, OTHERS FROM COLORADO AT LOOK OUT MOUNTAIN SO WE ARE GOING TO BE DISCUSSING INTERIVE PANELS FOR HAYS COUNTY TODAY. HERE IS JUST SOME ADDED PHOTOS.

WE ALSO CELEBRATED COURTHOUSE HERE AND PHOTO AT THE BOTTOM IS A PHOTOGRAPH THAT WAS TAKEN AT THE CONFERENCE EARLIER THIS YEAR WITH THE NEW HISTORIAN ALYSSA CAST TELL OH WHO WE HAVE BEEN COORDINATING WITH FOR QUITE SOME TIME NOW SO IT'S WONDERFUL TO HAVE HER WORK WITH US ABOUT TEJANO HISTORY IN HAYS COUNTY. THERE ARE 279,000 APPROXIMATELY POPULATION IN HAYS COUNTY 1.3 ARE NATIVE AMERICAN OR CONSIDER THEMSELVES TO BE. 41 PERCENT ARE HISPANIC OR LATINO FOR A TOTAL OF 42 PERCENT OF THE POPULATIONS.

26 PERCENT SPEAK A LANGUAGE OTHER THAN ENGLISH IN THE HOME.

LET ME GO AHEAD AND CONTINUE. SITSY HAS BEEN FORTUNATE THE FUNDING HAS HELPED US FOSTER RELATIONSHIPS IN THE COMMUNITY AND HELP FAMILIES INTERESTED IN SHARING AND RESEARCHING THEIR FAMILY STORIES. THE PROCESS OF RECOVERING THESE UNTOLD STORIES IS DIFFICULT AND TIME CONSUMING BUT ALL OF US AT SITSY ARE ENTHUSIASTICALLY WELCOME THE CHALLENGE TO SHED LIGHT ON THE BEAUTIFULLY DIVERSE HISTORY OF HAYS COUNTY AND WE APPRECIATE YOUR SUPPORTING EFFORTS THAT HAVE REVEALED A NEW PARTER IN SHIP WITH US A ONCE HIDDEN PAST TO BUILD A BRIDGE AND PRIDE AMONG YOUR CONSTITUENTS.

WITH ME TODAY, IS DR. JUSTIN RANDOLPH.

HE'S A PROFESSOR OF HISTORY FROM TEXAS STATE UNIVERSITY AND THE DR. CARDENAS YOU HAVE A LETTER FROM HIM.

>> WE CAN HAVE THIS IN THE RECORD.

>> EVERY TIME I HEAR ABOUT SITSY'S WORK, I GET A LITTLE BIT MORE INSPIRED AND I WANT TO DO MORE MYSELF.

SO, IT'S MY PLEASURE TO BE BEFORE YOU TODAY JUDGE BECERRA, COMMISSIONERS AND MY NAME IS JUSTIN RANDOLPH.

I TEACH HISTORY AT TEXAS STATE UP THE HILL.

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I GOT MY PH.D. AT YALE UNIVERSITY IN 2020 AND I'M ASSISTANT PROFESSOR NOW AT TEXAS STATEMENT IT'S BEEN MY PLEASURE TO WORK WITH SITSY NOW FOR A YEAR.

A LITTLE OVER A YEAR I THINK. I'VE SEEN THEM ACHIEVE THEIR GOALS IN SHORT FROM THE VERY FIRST TO WHAT YOU JUST HAD A CHANCE TO SEE. AND IT'S MY PLEASURE ACTUALLY TO BRING TWO STUDENTS FROM MY GRADUATE SEMINAR IN ORAL HISTORY, THIS SEMESTER AS GINA SAID I'VE SUBMITTED A LETTER OF SUPPORT. I CANNOT BE MORE FRANK IN MY SUPPORT FOR ADDITIONAL FUNDING FOR SITSY.

I THINK IT'S A REAL OPPORTUNITY FOR THE COUNTY AND FOR GOVERNMENT GENERALLY TO DEAD KATE FU-- DEDICATE FUNDS TO HISTORY MAKING WORK ARCHIVE BUILDING WORK.

GINA AND OTHERS ARE CREATING A HISTORICAL RECORD THAT FUTURE HISTORIANS WILL BE ABLE TO LOOK AT AND THEY'RE DOING IT IN SUCH A WAY THAT REALLY ALIGNS TO THE ORAL HISTORY THE NATIONAL PROFESSION ORGANIZATION AROUND ORAL HISTORY THEIR ETHICS MORALS AND LEGAL PROCEDURES AROUND THE CRAFT OF ORAL HISTORY.

I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE LETTER THAT I WROTE OR ABOUT THE CRAFT IN GENERAL, BUT I WOULD JUST SAY THAT I THANK YOU FOR ALL THAT YOU'VE DONE FOR SITSY IN THE PAST TO HELP BRING MY STUDENTS INTO THIS PROCESS AND GET THEM TO KNOW HAYS COUNTY A LITTLE BIT BETTER AND YOU'VE MADE ME VERY PROUD TO BE A RESIDENT HERE AS WELL.

SO THANK YOU. >> BEAUTIFUL.

COMMISSIONERS, ANYTHING WOULD YOU LIKE TO ASK ADD OR

CONTRIBUTE? >> NO, JUST THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING HERE AND SHOWING YOUR SUPPORT.

APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU.

>> YES, THANK Y'ALL SO MUCH FOR YOUR PRESENTATION, GINA AND I MENTIONED AT THE WALK OVER THE WEEKEND THAT I DID NOT TAKE MY FIRST MEXICAN AMERICAN HISTORY CLASS UNTIL I WAS MY FIRST YEAR IN COLLEGE WHEN IT WAS AN OPTION FOR ME TO DO SO, AND THAT'S ACTUALLY WHERE I LEARNED REALLY THE SAD HISTORIES OF MY COMMUNITY THAT PROBABLY HAD BEEN SHIELDED FROM ME FOR A WHILE, SO I APPLAUD THE WORK THAT Y'ALL HAVE BEEN DOING AND YOU CONTINUE TO DO. I THINK IT'S GREAT WORK AND IT

NEEDS TO BE ELEVATED. >> THAT'S INTERESTING, COMMISSIONER. I DIDN'T KNOW THAT ABOUT YOU BECAUSE I TOO HAD THAT SAME EXPERIENCE MY FIRST TACK DEMOCRAT I CAN LEANING IN OUR HISTORY WAS ALSO IN COLLEGE.

IT WASN'T SOMETHING THAT WAS READILY AVAILABLE ANYWHERE ELSE AND ONLY THROUGH I THINK I TOOK IT AS AN ELECTIVE.

IT WASN'T EVEN PART OF THE STAMPING OF ROAD MAPS.

WE DID THE SAME THING. >> I SAW IN THE CURRICULUM IN THE BOOK, I'VE NEVER TAKEN MEXICAN AMERICAN HISTORY.

>> THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE I WANT TO THANK GINA FOR THE PRESENTATION AND THE WORK SHE'S DONE.

IT'S ALWAYS VERY PROFESSIONAL. >> THANK YOU COMMISSIONER SMITH.

>> THANKS FOR COMING TODAY AND THANKS GINA FOR THE PAST.

THE SAME CONCERNS, YOU KNOW LAST YEAR WHENEVER WE HAD THE FIRST INSTALLMENT OF FUNDING OR THE REQUEST FOR FUNDING IF YOU REMEMBER WE TALKED ABOUT THE TO ALL OUR SOCIAL SERVICE AND - COMMUNITY SERVICE ORGANIZATIONS AND AT THAT TIME I THINK YOUR REQUEST LAST YEAR WAS FOR 15,000 AND WE WENT FROM FIVE TO TEN IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, AND AT THAT TIME IT WAS THE LARGEST PERCENTAGE INCREASE WE HAD FOR ANYBODY.

IT WAS 100 PERCENT AND THE CONCERN I HAD AT THAT POINT AND I MENTIONED IT, AND I'LL PROBABLY MENTION IT TODAY IS WHENEVER WE HELP SOCIAL SERVICE ORGANIZATIONS THIS IS THE ONLY SOCIAL SERVICE ORGANIZATION THAT IS ON OUR LIST THAT I KNOW THE REQUEST IS THAT WE FULLY FUND THE ORGANIZATION.

AND I SAY THAT BECAUSE WE HAVE OUR COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS THAT COME IN AND LOOK FOR SUPPLEMENTAL FUNDINGS TO TRY TO ADDRESS THE NEED OF THE COMMUNITY.

WE ARE MORE OR LESS, I HAVE A REAL CONCERN OVER US FULLY

FUNDING AN OUTSIDE 501 C-3. >> BEFORE YOU CONTINUE I'D LIKE TO CONTINUE WITH MY PRESENTATION.

>> I'M SORRY. I SINCERELY APOLOGIZE.

>> I HAVE LETTERS TO READ. IF YOU DON'T MIND.

>> OKAY, JUDGE BECERRA AND COMMISSIONERS, I WRITE IN FULL SORT OF THE COUNCIL FOR THE INDIGENOUS AND TEJANO COMMUNITY REQUEST FOR ADDITIONAL FUNDING. AS HAYS COUNTY RESIDENT I VIEW

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CITC MISSION AS SOME OF THE MOST VALUABLE WORK BEG SUPPORTED BY LOCAL GOVERNMENT. AS A YALE UNIVERSITY TRAINED ORAL HISTORY OF THE AMERICAN SOUTH I BELIEVE CITC WORK CARRIES IMPORTANCE FOR SCHOLARS UNDERSTANDING TEXAS HISTORY AT LARGE. I FIRST MET MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL IN SPRING, 2022 EAGER TO COLLECT HISTORIES WITH ELDERS IN THE COMMUNITY THE GROUP CONVINCED ME OF THE IMPORTANCE OF THIS WORK OVER A SELL CUP OF COFFEE.

AS THE ORAL HISTORY SPECIALIST AT TEXAS STATE UNIVERSITY I HEARD A FAMILIAR REFRAIN, LIBRARIES FOR BURNING, THE WORKS INDEED OF THE OLDEST AND WISEST IN HAYS COUNTY WERE . . . THE END BY PASSED. ON THAT SCORE ALONE THE WORK OF CITC TO CONDUCT LIFE HISTORY INTERVIEWS OF MEMBERS OF THE INDIGENOUS AND TEJANO COMMUNITY CTSC IS INTER VEEGING OF ANGULO SUPREMACY IN TEXAS. IT IS A COMMON EXPRESSION THAT QUOTE HISTORY IS WRITTEN BY THE VICTORS, UNQUOTE.

I WOULD EXPRESS TO YOU THE HISTORICAL RECORD WHICH BYCHY MEAN DOCUMENTS ARCHIVES AND GRAND ACCOUNTS IS CREATED BY THE VICTORS FOR INVESTORS WHO ARE . . . OR PEOPLE WHO ARE EXCLUDED OR DISCRIMINATED AGAINST BY RULING CLASS AND HISTORIANS.

ORAL HISTORY IS ONE OF THE FEW TOOLS AT OUR DISPOSAL TO CORRECT THE HISTORICAL RECORD FOR FUTURE GENERATIONS BY INTERVIEWING PEOPLE WHO EXPERIENCE THE PAST FIRSTHAND, STUDENTS OF HISTORY, CAN PAINT A FULLER PORT RAT OF THE PAST.

NO SIMPLER THAN ANY ATTEMPT AT REOBSTRUCTIONING OR DERIVING MEANING FROM THE PAST THIS HISTORY WORK MEANS TO GRAPPLE WITH AND BEGIN A CONVERSATION ABOUT THE COMPLEX HISTORY OF HAYS COUNTY AND TEXAS. AS A PH.D. HOLDING HISTORIAN, I HAVE CONSULTED AND OBSERVED CITC'S ORAL HISTORY INTERVIEWING PRACTICE. IT MEANS THE ETHICAL AND PROFESSIONAL STANDARD SET FOR THE BY THE ORAL HISTORIANS THAT WOULD RECOGNIZE CITC REFLECTIONIVE AND TECH LODGELY ADVANCED. WITH FUNDING FOR STUDY OF THE SOUTHWEST CITC HAS HIRED JASON RIVAS, A ORAL HISTORIAN.

RIVAS CONDUCTS TWO HIGH DEFINITION AUDIO-VISUAL INTERVIEWS WITH EACH INTERVIEW'. ARMED WITH A QUESTIONNAIRE HE GIVES . . . CITC IS SUFFERING FROM A SURPLUS OF WILLING PARTICIPANTS. DEMAND HAS OUT PACED INFRASTRUCTURE. CITC INTERVIEWS BECAME SPACES FOR COMMUNITY BUILDING. ON AUGUST 20TH, 2023, I OBSERVED A LIVE INTERVIEW WITH FRANK ARDON DOUGH AND KRSTICH CRUZ THAT ALSO FEATURED A SCREENING OF A PREVIOUS INTERVIEW.

INTER GENERATIONAL FAMILY AND FRIENDS ATTENDED LEARNING MORE ABOUT A LIFE THEY THOUGHT THEY KNEW WELL.

ATTENDEES GOT TO SPEAK AFTERWARDS.

THEY ASKED QUESTIONS ABOUT TEJANO LIFE IN HAYS COUNTY.

ON SEPTEMBER 10ORAL HISTORIANS IN TRAINING FROM MY OWN GRADUATE SEMINAR WITNESSED AND LEARNED FROM CITC'S HIGH PRODUCTION VALUE PROCESS. THESE STUDENTS MET PEOPLE AND LEARNED THE MEANING OF HISTORY. THEY MAY HAVE LEARNED.

AS CITC SCALES ITS OPERATION TO INCLUDE PUBLIC EXHIBITION'S SCREENINGS AND ON LINE ARCHIVE. SUCH IMPACT WILL INCREASE EXPONENTIALLY. FOR ME THE OUTCOME OR DELIVERABLE NEED BE NOTHING MORE THAN BUILDING THIS INTELLECTUAL COMMUNITY WITH OTHERS, CROSS BACKGROUND EXPERIENCE FROM THE PAST. HISTORIANS MAKE POOR PROPHETS, BUT I BELIVE RECORDING THESE HISTORIES NOW IS FOR IMPORTANT THE FUTURE OF HAYS COUNTY ESPECIALLY CITC EX-PLACE OF INDIGENOUS HISTORY. I DON'T HAVE TO TELL YOU WE ARE EXPERIENCING SOME WHAT UNPRECEDENTED CHANGE IN PROGRESS AND DEVELOPMENT. IN MY OPINION, KEEPING HISTORIC AL INDIGENOUS AND TEJANO PERSPECTIVE ALIVE FOR FUTURE GENERATION SHOULD BE A GOVERNMENT INTEREST.

? DOUBT THE IMPORTANCE OF EX-PETE YENS OF GOVERNMENT FUNDING FOR THE ARTS AND HUMANITY'S AND THEY

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FRAME THE IDEA OF PAYING PROFESSIONAL HISTORIANS AS IF IT WERE A LUXURY GOOD THAT TAXPAYERS CAN'T AFFORD.

ON THE CONTRARY I ARGUE THAT THE RESIDENTS OF HAYS COUNTY CAN'T AFFORD FOR THIS IMPORTANT HISTORY TO GO WITHOUT THE FUNDING IT DESERVES AND I PREDICT THAT MEETING CITC'S REQUESTS TODAY WILL PAY HAYS COUNTY IN THE FUTURE.

CITC CAN ADVERTISE AND MAKE ACCESSIBLE RESEARCH FOR WIDER AUDIENCE THE CENTER CAN DEMONSTRATE ITS IMPACT TO OTHER POTENTIAL FUNDING SOURCES. I BELIEVE WITH MORE FUNDING CITC STANDS TO EASTERN FEDERAL FUND FROM THE NATIONAL ENDOWMENT OF THE HUMANITY'S AS IT ALREADY HAS FROM THE AMERICAN COUNCIL OF LEARNED SOCIETY'S. I THANK THE COURT FOR ITS COMMITMENT TO CITC WORK TO DATE. IT'S BROUGHT ME INTO CONTACT WITH HISTORY KEEPERS WHO BUILT THE PLACE WE INHERITED AND WHO IS LIVES HOLD THE POTENTIAL FOR OUR FUTURE.

>> THE SECOND LETTER THE SUPPORT FOR COUNTY FUNDING FOR INTERIVE FAMILIES FOR . . . DEERS HAYS COUNTY JUDGE AND COMMISSIONERS, I'M SUBMITTING THIS LETTER TO YOU TO ILLUSTRATE NATIONAL HISTORIC TRAIL ASSOCIATION SUPPORT OF THE COUNCIL FOR THE INDIGENOUS TEJANO COMMUNITY REQUEST FOR ADDITIONAL FUNDING FOR INTERIVE PANELS. WE HAVE DISCUSSED THE IMPORTANCE OF TURNIVE PANELS ON THE HISTORIC COURTHOUSE GROUNDS FOCUSED ON THE SIGNIFICANCE OF THE EL CAT TRAIL THAT RUNS ON TWO SIDE OF THE COURTHOUSE AND THROUGHOUT HAYS COUNTY.

WITH FUNDING SUPPORT, CITC WILL BE ABLE TO WORK TOGETHER WITH THE NATIONAL PARK SERVICE A EL CAT TO TELL THE HISTORY OF THE TRAIL WITHIN THE AREA ALLOWING RESIDENTS AND VISITORS TO EXPERIENCE AND UNDERSTAND THE IMPORTANCE OF THIS NATIONALLY SIGNIFICANT VIDEO SOURCE. INTERPRETERS FROM THE NCS AND AL CAT ARE WAITING TO DRAFT TO CREATE THE PANELS AT NO COST.

THE ONLY COST TO CITC WILL BE FOR THE FOUR PANELS AND BASES TO EACH SITE AT $1500. PLEASE GRANT CITC EFFORT APPRECIATE THE IMPORTANCE OF THE NATIONAL HISTORIC TRAIL FOR NOT ONLY HAYS COUNTY. FOR MORE INFORMATION PLEASE CONTACT ME AT 512-850-9073 OR STEVEN GONZÁLEZ.

>> THANK YOU DR. CARDENAS. I THINK THE ONE THING THAT'S SO STRIKING TO ME BY THAT EMAIL OR THAT LETTER THAT WAS SENT FROM STEPHEN GONZÁLEZ IS THERE ARE TWO EL COMEDIAN OH REAL TRAILS ONE ON EITHER SIDE OF IT'S NOT DOCUMENTED.

IT'S NOT RECOGNIZED. YOU KNOW WHAT IS RECOGNIZED, THAT THE CHISHOLM TRAIL MARKER, ACTUALLY ORIGINAL . . . SO FUNDING FOR THE PERSONAL PANELS STEPHEN GONZÁLEZ HAS ALREADY RECOMMENDED TO THE NATIONAL TRAIL ASSOCIATION RECOGNIZING THOSE TRAILS. I ALSO, SO OUR SUBSEQUENT GOALS ARE TO PROVIDE ENGAGING PROGRAMS THAT EDUCATE THE COMMUNITY.

THAT WOULD BE AN EDUCATIONAL TOOL ABOUT THESE HISTORICALLY RELEVANT HISTORIES AND KEEPING THEIR MEMORIES ALIVE.

THERE'S A VIDEO TRAILER I'D LIKE TO HAVE PLAYED NEXT.

THANK YOU. >> ROXANNE LAUGHS AT THE SIGHT OF PRESSURE.

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>> SO WHAT WE ARE REQUESTING IS A MODEST AMOUNT FOR NEXT YEAR.

CITC HAS COMPLETED 5 MORE INTERVIEWS.

THE DUNBAR HERITAGE ASSOCIATION IS SEEKING WAYS TO BEGIN AN ORAL HISTORY PROGRAM AND OUR COUNCIL HAS PROPOSED EXTENDING OUR PROGRAM IN 2024 TO ASSIST THEM. THESE FUNDS WILL BE USED TO PAY OUR ORAL HISTORIAN JASON RIVAS WHO HAS MASTERS IN PUBLIC HISTORY FROM TEXAS STATE UNIVERSITY WITH A FOCUS ON ORAL HISTORY. OUR ORAL HISTORY PROJECT THIS YEAR WAS GENEROUSLY FUNDED BY OUR BENEFACTOR, DR. GONZÁLEZ THE DIRECTOR OF THE CENTER FOR THE STUDIES OF THE SOUTHWEST AND THOSE FUND ARE LIMITED TO THIS PROJECT.

JASON IS CONTRACTED FOR EACH INTERVIEW.

HIGH PREPARES INTERVIEW QUESTIONS BASED ON RESEARCH THAT WE CONDUCT OF RESIDENTS AND FAMILIES WHO HAVE LIVED IN HAYS COUNTY FOR OVER A HUNDRED YEARS. WE HAVE AN UNPAID VIDEO GRAFR WHO HAS VOLUNTEERED HUNDREDS OF HOURS CREATING VIDEOS LIKE YOU SAW TODAY. THOSE WERE FIVE INDIVIDUALS AND EACH INDIVIDUAL WAS INTERVIEWED TWICE FOR AND HOUR SO THE GOAL IS ULTIMATELY TO HAVE A 45 MINUTE TO VIDEO OF EACH PERSON AND WE ARE SLOWLY ARCHIVING THEM AT THE UNIVERSITY.

SO IT'S IMPORTANT THAT YOU UNDERSTAND THAT IF THERE'S A LOT OF WORK THAT GOES ON BEHIND THE SCENES, A NEWLY ADOPTED TEXAS SENATE BILL LAWMAKERS HERE IN TEXAS APPROVED TO DISBAN PROGRAMS MAY CREATE A HARDSHIP FOR THE UNIVERSITY GOING FORWARD. TO CONSIDER COMMITMENTS LIKE OURS WHEN AWARDING FUTURE GRANTS JUST SO THAT YOU KNOW THAT.

WE ARE ASKING FOR AN AMOUNT FOR A MUSEUM EXHIBIT, CITC WOULD PROPOSE THAT A CONSULTANT WORK WITH CITC AND THE LOCAL HISTORICAL COMMISSION TO DEVELOP A MUSEUM EXHIBIT FOR THE COUNTY SPACE. I WOULD SAY NINE MONTHS IF NOT LONGER I'M NOT SURE IF Y'ALL HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO VISIT THE MUSEUM. BUT IT HAS NOT BEEN OPENED.

AND THERE'S A REASON FOR THAT. IT NEEDS TO BE WORKED ON.

THERE'S A LOT OF HISTORY THAT IS NOT IN THAT MUSEUM THAT NEED TO BE CONSIDERED. WE HAVE BEEN IN TALKS WITH LINDA COKER. IN HER LIST THAT SHE'S PROPOSED TO CITC ANY MUSEUM EXHIBIT WOULD BE FULLY FUNDED BY US.

FUNDING WILL BE USED FOR A STATE OF THE ART EXHIBIT.

SO ALSO CITC MEMBERS ARE INTERESTING IN ATTENDING AN ANNUAL MEETING JULY IN COMING YEAR CONFERENCE THAT WILL FOCUS ON ISSUES FACING HISTORICAL PRESERVATION CONVERSATION AND TO TELL STORIES ABOUT HISTORICALLY EXCLUDED COMMUNITIES.

THERE WILL BE DISCUSSION PANELS WORKSHOPS AND NETWORKING WITH STATE AND NATIONAL ORGANIZATIONS.

THE CONFERENCE LOCATION WAS SELECTED BECAUSE OF ITS STRONG COMMITMENT TO PROTECTING DIVERSE COMMUNITIES.

ONE OF CITC'S MISSIONS IS TO PROMOTE ART AND CULTURE AND WE CREATED A COMMITTEE TO BRING CULTURELY RELEVANT HEART TO HAYS COUNTY. TWO YOU MAY KNOW JOHNNY FLORES AND LAURIE MOYA ARE HEAVILY CONNECTED WITH THE ARTS AND ARE LOOKING INTO RENTING SPACE WITH ARTISTS.

I HOPE WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO SHOW YOU TODAY THAT BECAUSE OF YOUR SUPPORT CITC STANDING IN THE COMMUNITY THAT IS GROWN EXPONENTIALLY SINCE OUR INCEPTION IN 2021 AND THE COMMUNITY WILL CONTINUE TO BENEFIT SIGNIFICANTLY FROM YOUR SUPPORT. OUR COUNCIL IS GRATEFUL TO YOU FOR YOUR DEDICATION TO ALL OF HAYS COUNTY BECAUSE OF THE EDUCATIONAL SIGNIFICANCE THIS HISTORY BRINGS TO EVERYONE.

CITC SEES ITS VOLUNTEER WORK THAT HAS EXCEED OVER 2,000 HOURS BECAUSE WE ARE KEEPING TRACK OF IN KIND COMMUNITY SERVICE AS A DUTY TO THE COMMUNITY TO TELL THE ADVICE FRIDAY FROM A DIVERSE

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VIEWPOINT TO ADDRESS HISTORICAL GAPS TO SERVE THE COMMUNITY WITH CULTURALLY RELEVANT LEARNING AND DOCUMENT UNTOLD STORIES.

THE BENEFICIARIES OF OUR PARTNERSHIP ARE THE COMMUNITY WE SERVE AND FUTURE GENERATIONS SO YOUR DECISION TODAY WILL HELP US ACCOMPLISH OUR GOALS IN PARTNERSHIP WITH YOUR COMMITMENT TO INCREASING ININVESTMENT INTO THE COMMUNITY.

I HOPE BY OUR WORK WE HAVE DEN STRAIGHT OUR INTEREST IN SHOWING THE HISTORY OF THIS COUNTY AND NOT JUST A PART OF IT BUT ALL THE HISTORY. THIS IS WHY WE ARE HERE TODAY ASKING FOR $25,000 AND WE APPRECIATE YOUR SUPPORT AND PARTNERSHIP FOR THESE PROJECT, YOUR CONFIDENCE IN US HAS HELPED US LONG THE AWAY. WE CONTINUE YOU TO INVITE US TO BE PART OF OUR BOLD VISION. THANK YOU.

>> IS THAT THE END OF YOUR PRESENTATION?

>> YES, SIR. >> I TWO LIKE TO SAY THAT I AM MOST GRATEFUL. I AM VERY IMPRESSED NOT ONLY WITH THOSE THINGS IN THE LETTERS, BUT THE LEVEL OF DETAILS THAT HAS TAKEN THE PAINSTAKING DETAILS TO GET IT RIGHT HAVE BEEN EVER PRESENT AND I SEE WHAT YOU SEE AND THANK YOU FOR PUTTING IN IT WRITING SO ELOQUENTLY AND THE IDEA THAT IT IS SUCH HIGH QUALITY PROCESS AND DOCUMENTATION THAT FEDERAL ENDOWMENTS CAN SUPPORT THIS IS IN THE FUTURE AS THIS THING GROWS AND CONTINUES TO GAIN IN POPULARITY BECAUSE OF THE WORK AND OTHER ORGANIZATIONS BENEFITTING FROM THIS WORK AS WELL, SO THEY CAN BRANCH OUT, THAT'S COMPOUNDING OUR EFFORTS IN A WAY THAT ARE REALLY IMMEASURABLE.

I LIKE YELLOWSTONE. IT'S A GOOD SHOW.

WHY AM I BRINGING UP YELLOWSTONE? BECAUSE THEY HAD THEIR SEASON PREMIER SUNDAY, AND IT COULD HAVE BEEN MONDAY. ANYWAY, I TOLD MY SON, I SAID, MAN THAT YELLOWSTONE SHOW IT WAS A HOME RUN.

THE COWBOYS GAME WE WERE WATCHING THE COFOUNDER OF YELLOWSTONE WAS UP THERE WITH THE OWNER OF THE COWBOYS IN THE BOX AND IT MEAN IT JUST IT'S A HOME RUN OF A SHOW.

I GO INTO THAT TO TELL YOU THIS. BECAUSE I TOLD MY SON, I SAID, MAN, NETFLIX AND HULU AND AMAZON SPIT OUT SHOWS LIKE THEY'RE CANDIES LIKE TICTACS BUT EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE YOU GET A REAL GEM LIKE YELLOWSTONE A REAL HOME RUN AND THAT'S HOW I SEE CITC AND ONLY BECAUSE THE WORK YOU ARE DOING THE WORK IT IS TAKING CAPTURING THOSE STORIES THAT TWO OTHERWISE HAVE BURNED DOWN DISAPPEARED WITH TIME AND I'M SO GRATEFUL THAT WE ARE ABLE TO CAPTURE WHATEVER WE CAN AND IN THE WAY YOU'RE CAPTURING IT, TO GIVE NATIONAL LEVEL CREDENCE TO THE PROCESS AND FOR THAT I'M TERRIBLELY GRATEFUL THAT WE HAVE OUR OWN YELLOWSTONE, RIGHT HERE.

>> COMMISSIONER INGLESBY? >> THANK YOU JUDGE AND GINA THANK YOU SOAP FOR ALL THE WORK THAT YOU HAVE DONE.

I KNOW THAT THERE HAVE BEEN OTHER VOLUNTEERS THAT HAVE HELPED ALSO IN YOUR EFFORTS AND I REALLY APPRECIATE IT, AND JUDGE, I DID SAID A LIST TO VICKY WITH SOME REQUESTS FOR ARPA FUNDING AND I'M CERTAINLY HAPPY TO MAKE UP THE DIFFERENCE THROUGH THE ARPA ALLOCATION THAT I CURRENTLY HAVE, AND SO, YOU KNOW, THERE'S AN ISSUE REGARDING INCREASING A BUDGET.

I'M CERTAINLY WILLING TO DO IT THROUGH ARPA FUNDING.

>> THAT'S BEAUTIFUL, COMMISSIONER GENUINELY.

I DON'T KNOW. I DON'T WANT TO GIVE PEOPLE LESS TIME THAN THEY DESERVE. IF ANY OTHER COMMISSIONER WANTS TO ADD THING. OTHERWISE I'M GOING TO GO TO

VICKY. >> I DO WANT TO ADDRESS THE ONE POINT. THANK YOU COMMISSIONER.

AS WE LOOK AT THESE ON AND ANNUALIZED BASIS I KNOW WE HAVE EACH HELPED INDIVIDUAL NONPROFITS AND THAT'S WHERE THE ARPA FUNDS SHOULD GO BECAUSE THEY STAY IN THE COMMUNITY.

THE CONCERN I HAVE AGAIN I THINK THE WORK THAT Y'ALL ARE DOING IS AMAZING. I THINK THERE ARE STORIES BEING ACCESSED THAT WE WOULDN'T HAVE ACCESS TO OTHERWISE.

WHAT I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU IS I KNOW YOU'RE GOING TO BE BACK HERE OR I CERTAINLY EXPECT THE ORGANIZATION TO BE BACK HERE NEXT YEAR. JUST AS EXAMPLE THE EVENTS WE ARE IN SEPTEMBER OR AUGUST INSURING THAT THE POLICY-MAKERS WHO ARE GOING TO BE MAKING THESE BUDGET DEALT SIGTSZ ARE --

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DECISIONS ARE NOTIFIED OF THEM. THERE ARE PEOPLE I WOULD HAVE LOVED TO SHARE THAT INVITE W. THEN WHEN WE COME HERE WE ARE NOT START FROM ZERO SAYING WHAT DID YOU DO THIS YEAR, HOW WAS THIS PART OF IT. I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO KEEP WORKING WITH THE HISTORIC COMMISSION BECAUSE WHILE A LARGE PORTION OF YOUR PRESENTATION WAS RELATIVE TO THE HISTORICAL MARKER I KNOW THAT THEY WORKED VERY HARD ON THE THAT HISTORIC MARKER AS WELL AND THEY ACTUALLY PUT IN THE ACTUAL APPLICATION

DID THEY NOT OR DID Y'ALL? >> SO WHICH APPLICATION?

>> FOR THE UNTOLD MARKER. >> SO CITC HAS APPLIED HAS BEEN A PART OF FIVE SEPARATE APPLICATIONS THAT HAVE BEEN GRANTED AND THE ONES FROM 2018 WAS THE ALIVIA RANCH.

THAT STORY I'VE PUT TOGETHER.

WROTE THAT NARRATIVE. I WILL NOT BACK DOWN OR SAY THAT I NEVER DID. I WORKED DILIGENTLY TO MEET WITH BOARD MEMBERS, NOT WASN'T BUT TWICE.

I DROVE INTO TOWN AND ALSO DID RESEARCH ON AT THE GOVERNMENT CENTER. SO ALL OF THAT RESEARCH AND WORK THAT WAS DONE, IT WAS DONE BY ME.

SO, I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY THAT. >> MY QUESTION IS, THE ACTUAL APPLICATION ITSELF DOES IT GO -- IT HAS TO BE, DOES IT HAVE TO BE SUBMITTED BY A COUNTY HISTORICAL COMMITTEE?

>> WHEN IT IS A SUBJECT MARKER BUT WHEN WE ARE SPEAKING OF

ACTUAL WORK. >> NO QUESTION Y'ALL ARE PUTTING IN THE HOURS NONE WHATSOEVER. MY POINT IS THAT AS WE LOOK AT THESE THINGS, GOOD AND CONTINUE COORDINATION WITH THE HISTORIC COMMISSION I THINK IS KEY TO ANYTHING THAT WE DO ESPECIALLY SINCE ALL OF US TODAY REAL EFFORT EACH MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSIONERS COURT AND WE HAVE FOLKS ON THERE THAT WE TRUST THAT WE TAKE COUNSEL FROM IT WOULD BE HELPFUL.

>> ONE OF THE THINGS THAT CITC DOING IS WORKING VERY CLOSELY WITH THE MARKER, COMMITTEE CHAIRPERSON AND HE IS ABSOLUTELY PHENOMENAL, SO WORKING WITH HIM HAS BEEN JUST AMAZING AND AS I MENTIONED ALICIA COSTELLO AT TEXAS HISTORICAL COMMISSION WORKING DIRECTLY WITH THE PEOPLE WHO ARE PUTTING THOSE MARKERS TOGETHER. AND THE ONES THAT WE ARE SUBMITTING, YOU KNOW, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN DECIDE INDEPENDENTLY THROUGH AN UNDERTOLD MARKER.

IT DOESN'T HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE LOCAL HISTORICAL COMMISSION.

>> THAT WAS MY QUESTION. >> IT DOESN'T HAVE TO GO THROUGH

THE LOCAL HISTORICAL COMMISSION. >> THAT WAS ALL I HAD AND I REALLY DO APPRECIATE YOUR TIME. AS YOU LOOK AT YOUR OVERALL BUDGETING FOR NEXT YEAR REAL REPRESENTATION I KNOW IN HERE YOU HAVE THE CURRENT GRANTS THAT YOU'VE GOTTEN.

KNOWING WHAT Y'ALL ARE APPLYING FOR IN THE FUTURE, AS WE LOOK AT, BECAUSE I LOOK AT YOUR BUDGET FOR THIS COMING YEAR AND IT'S JUST OVER $27,000 A REQUEST FROM THE COUNTY WAS 25, RIGHT?

>> CORRECT. CORRECT.

IF YOU WANT TO GIVE US 27 WE ARE HAPPY.

>> WHAT I'M SAYING IS THAT WE DON'T FULLY FUND ANY OTHER SOCIAL SERVICE. MAYBE I'M WRONG, IF Y'ALL KNOW WE DON'T FULLY FUND ANY OF THEM. I MAY BE THE ONLY MEMBER OF THE COURT BUT WE SUPPLEMENT THE GOOD WORK THESE ORGANIZATIONS ARE DOING. THE VOLUNTEERS THAT THEY CONSTITUTE THE OTHER FUNDING OUTSIDE FUNDING WHETHER IT BE MEMBERSHIP FEES OR WHETHER IT BE GRANTS FOR DONATIONS WE TRY TO DO A GOOD JOB OF IDENTIFYING SOMETHING AND SAYING Y'ALL ARE DOING THIS REALLY WELL LET'S HELP YOU WITH THAT.

IF IT'S OESHL HISTORIES AND THEY'RE GOING TO BE $,000 OR $25,000 THIS IS WHAT THE MONEY IS GOING TO BE GOING TOWARD, LET'S GO $25,000 TOWARD ORAL HISTORY OR THE TRAIL MARKERS OR WHATEVER THAT MAY BE BUT HAVING A SEMBLANCE OF THIS IS THE OTHER THINGS WE ARE DOING WE ARE NOT ASKING FOR ASSISTANCE FOR FROM THE COUNTY OR NOT ASKING THE COUNTY TO FULLY FUND BEING ABLE TO SHOW THE GRANT FUNDING OR VOLUNTEER HOURS AND SAYING THESE WILL THE OTHER THINGS IN THE FUNDING THAT YOU'RE GOING.

>> SAME SO SORRY. I SENT THAT IN INITIALLY BACK IN JUNE WHERE THE OTHER FUNDING CAME FROM AND I THINK IT'S ACTUALLY ON THE SPREADSHEET ON THERE.

>> THAT GRANT FUNDING ISN'T HERE BUT IT WASN'T REALLY ILLUSTRATED AS FAR AS WHAT IT DID. SO THAT THE THE REASON I HAD

THAT QUESTION. >> THAT'S WHY I THOUGHT IT WAS SO IMPORTANT TO STAND HERE AND TELL YOU ABOUT THE UNIVERSITY'S POSSIBILITY THAT GRANT MONEY WOULD GO AWAY KNOWING THAT WE HAVE A LIST OF PEOPLE THAT WE NEED TO INTERVIEW.

THAT'S WHY IT WAS SO IMPORTANT TO STAND HERD AND TELL YOU THAT

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TODAY BECAUSE YOU WOULDN'T UNDERSTAND THAT OTHERWISE.

>> I THINK THE OTHER BENEFIT TO THAT IS THAT EACH OF US EVER DIFFERENT EXPERIENCES HERE ON THE COURT AND THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY I THINK WITH THAT CONTINUED INTERACTION.

WOE MAY ACTUALLY KNOW OF OTHER FUNDING SOURCES THAT YOU CAN ACCESS OR WE CAN HELP YOU ACCESS IF WE HAVE A BETTER UNDERSTANDING SPECIFICALLY THROUGHOUT THE YEAR OF WHAT YOU'RE DOING. SO I WOULD BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO SIT DOWN AND TALK TO YOU ABOUT SOME OF THE FUNDS OUT OF THE DEPARTMENT CAN OF INTERIOR AND OTHER PLACES WHERE THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT HAS ACTUALLY STEPPED UP IN SOME OF THOSE AREA, GIVEN MY BOUNDARY UPON FEDERAL PROPOSE RELATIONS COMMITTEE BUT WE NEED TO KNOW WHAT YOU'RE DOING IN THE INTERIM TO TRY TO GET THERE.

>> THANK YOU SO MUCH. APPRECIATE IT.

>> GINA AS ALWAYS I'M EYE TERRIBLELY GRATEFUL AND MY QUESTION IS TO VICKY, DO YOU HAVE WHAT YOU NEED? WHAT ELSE SHOULD WE HAD DO WITH THIS PRESENTATION BEFORE WE BUTTON IT DOWN? YOU'RE GOOD? THANK YOU SOAP FOR EVERYONE INVOLVED IN THIS PRESENTATION AND ALL THE WORK THAT'S TAKEN PLACE AND APPRECIATE YOUR TIME.

AND VICKY, I KNOW WE'VE HANDOUTS AND BEAUTIFULLY TABBED AND EVERYTHING ELSE. I DON'T WANT TO GET AHEAD OF 1:00. I WANT TO GO AT THE PACE YOU'RE PREPARED TO GO. [INAUDIBLE]

>> SO, AT THAT TIME 1:00 HEARING WILL BE A APPROVING ANY CHANGES THAT ARE PRESENTED IN THE WORKSHOP.

>> OKAY. >> SO, I HAVE TABBED THE DOCUMENT THAT I HANDED OUT. THERE'S A FEW THINGS THAT ARE ITEMS I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT TO GO OVER THEM IN DETAIL NOW.

ONE OF THE MAIN THINGS THAT STILL NEED TO BE DISCUSSED IS THE SALARY STEP PLAN SO ON AUGUST THE 22ND THE COURT DURING THE PROPOSED BUDGET HEARING THERE WAS A PRESENTATION BY THE COMPENSATION COMMITTEE AND HR DIRECTOR TO CONSIDER PLACEMENT IN OUR NEW SALARY PLAN EITHER A HIRE DATE OR PROMOTION DATE SO THOSE ARE THE TWO OPTIONS THAT ARE COURT STILL NEEDS TO DETERMINE HOW TO ROLL THAT OUT. ON PAGE 14 OF YOUR HANDOUT, IS THE COST TO DO EITHER PROMOTION DATE IF YOU ARE LOOKING AT THE HIRE DATE. WE WOULD POTENTIALLY HAVE TO ROLL THAT OUT ON THE FEBRUARY 1ST START DATE.

WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH FUNDING TO COVER THAT FULLY, OCTOBER 1.

>> TO GO ON HIRE DATE YOU'RE SAYING, WE WOULD START FEBRUARY 1. OKAY?

>> PROMOTION DATE OR DATE OF POSITION.

WE DO HAVE FUNDING TO COVER THAT WITH ADDITIONAL FUNDING OF -- 654,000 LEFT THAT COULD BE DISTRIBUTED TO THE DENTS FOR MERIT HYPE PAYMENTS TO PUSH INDIVIDUAL OUT IN THEIR RANGES.

THOSE ARE THE TWO OPTIONS THAT WERE PRESENTED THAT Y'ALL STILL NEED TO DISCUSS. I DID INCLUDE A BREAKDOWN OF ALL THE DEMOCRATS AND THE POSITIONS AND THE PLACEMENT THAT WAS PREVIOUSLY HANDED OUT TO YOU WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE FOR EACH INDIVIDUAL PERSON AND THE SALARY CHART.

THE OTHER ITEMS THAT WERE DISCUSSED ON THE 22ND WERE REGRADE AND PROMOTIONS. THE COMPENSATIN COMMITTEE HAD SUBMITTED RECOMMENDATIONS ON THE 22ND FOR REGRADES.

THERE WERE ONLY ONE SET OF REGRADES APPROVED BY THE COMPENSATION COMMITTEE AT THAT TIME.

THE COURT HAD ASKED THE COMMITTEE TO GO REVIEW IN FURTHER DETAILS AND TIME REVIEWING THE REMAINING REQUEST, WHICH WE DID. ON PAGE 35 ARE THE COMPENSATION COMMITTEE RECOMMENDATION FOR THOSE REGRADE AS WELL AS ON PAGE 34 THERE'S ADDITIONAL PROMOTION RECOMMENDATIONS.

ON ALSO ON PAGE 37, THERE WERE SOME ADDITIONAL REQUESTS THAT CAME IN FOR PERSONNEL CHANGES. THOSE ARE OUTLINED BY DEPARTMENT. SO, FISCAL IMPACT FOR THOSE CHANGES IS JUST A LITTLE OVER $11,000.

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THE MAJORITY OF THAT COST IS TO BRING THE COUNTY CLERK PROBATE'S AUDITOR UP TO A NOVEMBER 1ST HIRE DATE INSTEAD OF JANUARY 1ST HIGH DATE. THE OTHER CHANGES THE COUNTY AUDITOR AND DEVELOPMENT SERVICES JUST HAD CHANGES TO THEIR START DATES THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO CONSIDER AND THE POSITIONS THEY TWO LIKE CONSIDERED. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT

THE SALARY INFORMATION? >> SITTING IN THESE MEETINGS FOR AS LONG AS I'VE SAT THROUGH THEM, I AM MOST GRATEFUL FOR HONESTLY THE WORK FROM EVERYONE IN THAT COMMITTEE SHARING YOURSELF OUR D.A. JERRY PASSIONATELY SPEAKING AS YOU ALL REMEMBER ABOUT THE THINGS HE FELT SO STRONGLY ABOUT, OUR COUNTRY CLERK MYSELF AND OUR TERESCHENKO OR TAX ASSESSOR JENNIFER AND I REALLY APPRECIATE THE AMOUNT OF WORK THAT WENT INTO IT. RIGHT DR. CARDENAS? MY HOPE IS THAT WE ADOPT THE STEP PROGRAM THAT SEEMS TO BE THE GENERAL ROADMAP FOR THIS AND TO ADOPTED IT NOW SO THAT WE DON'T MOVE ANYTHING INTO A FUTURE DATE, SURVEY AND EVERYTHING ELSE THAT WE HAVE DONE ALL THAT LEG WORK AND ALL THESE EXTRA MEETINGS WE TOOK WERE IN PART TO BRING THIS TO A CLOSE SO MY HOPE IS I PUSH OFF AND ADOPT THIS STEP PROGRAM OFFICIALLY AND THEN MY PERSONAL PREFERENCE BECAUSE YOU DID SAY WE HAVE A CHOICE, MY PERSONAL PREFERENCE IS TO USE DATE OF HIRE BECAUSE I BELIEVE THE BEST PLACE WHERE WE EX-ASSIST IN VALUING FOLKS AS WE DID HONOR SO MANY FOR THE COMMITMENT THEY'VE THAT IS MOST TRULY EXPRESSED BY USING DATE OF HIRE.

SAY AIDAN THINK THOSE ARE THE ONLY TWO PIECES I WANTED TO SAY ON THAT FRONT. DID YOU WANT TO ADD ANYTHING?

>> I DISAGREE. I THINK THE DATE OF HIRE WE SHOULD GIVE THEM THAT TIME. WHEN YOU START WITH THE COUNTY YOU BEGIN A CAREER WITH US SO I PREFER TO HAVE THAT.

>> COMMISSIONER, I KNOW YOU WERE HANDED A BIG PACK.

>> YES AND I WAS TRYING TO GO BACK AND LOOK AT THAT.

I KNOW THAT VICKY I BELIEVE YOU STATED THAT REGARDING THE FUNDING OF THAT, IF WE WERE TO DO THE DATE OF HIRE, THEN THE FUNDS TO IMPLEMENT THAT WOULD TAKE US OUT TO.

>> FEBRUARY 1ST. YES.

>> WE WOULD STILL BE A LITTLE SHORT IN THE GENERAL FUND UNTIL WE HAVE SALARY SAVINGS IN THE GENERAL FUND, BUT THAT $69,000 SHORTAGE IS CUMULATIVE FOR ALL OF OUR FUNDS.

>> AND THEN, SO ONE MORE QUESTION.

ON PAGE I THINK YOU SAID 35, IS IT 35? THEY WERE THE REGRADES. YES, 35.

ARE THESE THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT Y'ALL ARE MAKING THAT Y'ALL WENT BACK AND TOOK A LOOK AND FELT THAT THESE WERE SOME THAT MAYBE WEREN'T PROTECT IN THE STUDY AND SO THIS IS SOMETHING THAT YOU ALL LOOKED AT AND THESE ARE THE ONES YOU ARE RECOMMEND

SOMETHING. >> SO IN THE FIRST COLUMN THERE WERE REGRADE THAT WERE APPROVED ON AUGUST 22ND.

THE COLUMN TITLED ADDITIONAL FOR 9/19 ARE THE RECOMMENDATIONS FOR THE COMMITTEE TO ADOPT TODAY. THOSE INCLUDE THE, INCLUDES ONE POSITION AND THE OFFICE OF EMERGENCY SERVICES A PLANNER POSITION AND THAT JUST GRADES THAT POSITION THE SAME AS OTHER

PLANNERS WITHIN THE COUNTY. >> OKAY, SO IT'S JUST THAT ONE.

I'M SORRY. I DIDN'T GO ALL THE WAY TO THE

END OF THAT. >> COMMISSIONER WE INTERVIEW THE DEPARTMENT HEADS, WE INTERVIEWED ELECTED OFFICIALS AND THEY CAME

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AND I REMEMBER EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM.

THEY CAME AND I DON'T WANT TO SAY PLEADED THEIR CASE BUT THEY SHOWED US WHY THEY THOUGHT THESE THINGS WERE IMPORTANT TO MAKE FINAL LAST MINUTE EDITS TO AND COMMISSIONER SHELL I REMEMBER YOUR STATEMENT LIKE LET'S END THIS ALREADY KIND OF APPROACH AND THAT ENERGY WAS ALSO PRESENT INSIDE OUR COMMITTEE AS WELL.

OKAY. WE'VE ALREADY GONE THROUGH THE SURVEY. WE HAVE GONE THROUGH THIS LEG WORK. WHAT THE LEFT TO DO IS MY VISUAL THAT I USE WAS IF THE GRASS WERE TALL AND WE MOWED UP AND IT WAS TALL AND THERE WERE PIECES LITTLE CHUTES THAT WERE LESS BECAUSE THE GRASS WAS SO TALL AND SO THE INTENT WAS TO JUST GO BACK AND TOUCH THOSE THAT WERE LEFT UNDONE BUT IT'S NOT TO CAST A NEGATIVE LIGHT ONTO THE SURVEY OR ANY OTHER WORK THAT OTHER DEPARTMENT ELECTED OFFICIALS AND PARTIES HAD DONE IN THE PAST.

IT WAS JUST ABOUT TOUCHING LOOSENED THAT WERE LEFT TO

TOUCH. >> BUT IT LOOKS LIKE THE RECOMMENDATION IS JUST FOR THE ONE OFFICE OF EMERGENCY

MANAGEMENT. >> SERVICES.

>> RIGHT. THERE WERE THREE ADMINISTRATIVE POSITIONS THAT WERE INITIALLY REQUESTED AS REGRADES THAT WERE CONSIDERED PROMOTIONS IN THE COUNTY CLERK'S OFFICE AND THOSE POSITIONS WOULD BE DEPUTIZED ORDINARY ACTUALLY THE WORK, SO WE MOVED THOSE FROM THE REGRADE CATEGORY TO THE PROMOTIONS SO IT WILL BE REFLECTED ON PAGE 34. THERE WAS ALSO DISCUSSION AND OUR COMPENSATION COMMITTEE ABOUT ASSISTANT DIRECTORS FOR ELECTED OFFICIALS. THAT INFORMATION IS INCLUDED ON PAGE 36. I BELIEVE I'M SURE YOU HAVE SOME ADDITIONAL INFORMATION MARKET DATA.

THIS WAS JUST THE FINANCIAL IMPACT OF WHAT THE COMMITTEE WANTED TO LOOK FOR POTENTIAL SALARY INCREASES TO STANDARDIZE

THOSE POSITIONS. >> AND WE HAD SITTING SIDE BY SIDE OUR TAX ASSESSOR COLLECT EARTH AND COUNTY CLERK, DESCRIBING THEIR ASSISTANCE WORKLOAD AND CAPACITY AND COMPARING AND CONTRASTING THOSE POSITIONS AND THE DIFFERENCES IN PAY AND SO WHAT WE TRY TO DO AS THE COMPENSATION COMMITTEE WAS TO FIND A WAY TO BE COUNTYWIDE CONSISTENT WITH THOSE BASES HAVE THAT KIND OF RELATIONSHIP TO BE MOST CONSISTENT, HONESTLY I KEEP USING THAT WORD BUT MORE CONSISTENT.

DID I CAPTURE THAT RIGHT? MOST CONSISTENT.

>> SO, WHAT IS THE RECOMMENDATION THOUGH? I'M LOOKING AT THE CHART. AND I'M TRYING TO THE COMMITTEE

WANTED THE COURT TO REVIEW. >> TO CREATE UNIFORMITY AND PAY FOR ASSISTANCE. THAT WAS THE INTENT.

AND SO, IF YOU SAW WHAT THAT PAY WOULD BE, BASED OFF A PERCENTAGE OF THE ELECTED OFFICIALS POSITION, THEN IT WOULD BE 75 PERCENT OR 80 PERCENT AND JUST TO CREATE A NUMBER THAT WOULD CREATE? CONSISTENCY, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, IF THERE ARE THOSE THAT ARE MAKING MORE THAN THAT AND THE INTENT WAS NOT TO BRING THEM DOWN BUT TO BRING THOSE THAT ARE LAGGING UP. JUST TO LEVEL THE CONVERSATION.

>> IT WAS CALCULATED BASETH OFF THE TERM ONE ELECTED OFFICIAL SALARY. 75 PERCENT OR 80 PERCENT TERM 1 SALARY. IMPACT SHEET IS ANNUAL I.D. SO IF THE COURT DOES DECIDE TO IMPLEMENT A STEP PLAN BASETH ON HIRE DATE THAT WOULD PUSH THAT BACK TO FEBRUARY, YOU MIGHT CONSIDER PUSHING THIS PROMOTION OR SALARY CREASE DATE.

>> TO FEBRUARY AS WELL. GOT IT.

DOES THAT MAKE SENSE COMMISSIONER?

>> IT DOES. >> WE HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH THIS FOR QUITE SOME TIME. THAT THE WHY I CAN EXPLAIN IT A LITTLE BIT QUICKER BUT YOU'RE SEEING IT FOR THE FIRST TIME.

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>> JUST FOR CLARIFICATION THE ASSISTANT DIRECTOR IS FOR ELECTED OFFICIALS SO THE CALCULATIONS WERE PREPARED FOR ELECTED OFFICIALS ONLY THAT EVER AN ASSISTANT DIRECTOR ALREADY.

SO, CALCULATIONS WITH EQUALIZE WILL PUT BACK THE ASSISTANT DIRECTOR SALARY AT WAIVER PERCENTAGE WE HAVE, 75 PERCENT AND 80 PERCENT OF THE ELECTED OFFICIALS SALARY.

AS IF THEY WERE IN THEIR TERM ONE.

SO, IT'S NOT ANY ASSISTANT DIRECTORS AND THE COMMITTEE COLLABORATED THAT IT WOULD ONLY BE FOR ELECTED OFFICIALS.

AND NOT DEPARTMENT HEAD THAT WE DO HAVE SOME DEPARTMENT HEAD THAT HAVE ASSISTANT DIRECTORS BUT THIS IS ONLY FOR ELECTED OFFICIALS. THIS IS A POINT OF CLARITY.

>> THANK YOU SHERRY. COMMISSIONER INGLESBY BEFORE WE MOVE TO ANOTHER COMMISSIONER I WANTED TO MAKE SURE YOU HAD ALL YOUR QUESTIONS AT LEAD AT THIS POINT ADDRESS.

>> AT THIS POINT I THINK I'M OKAY JUDGE.

>> COMMISSIONER SHELL. >> I'M GOING TO START WITH WHAT I THINK NEED TO BE DECIDED BEFORE ANYTHING, WHICH IS THE IMPLEMENTATION OF SOME PLAN IF IT'S A STEP PLAN AND I THINK I'VE MADE IT CLEAR BEFORE THAT I'M NOT A FAN OF A STEP PLAN BUT LIKE MARK SAID EARLIER SOMETIMES YOU GOT TO COUNT TO 3 BUT I WANT TO MAKE A COUPLE STATEMENT ON IT.

WHAT'S IMPORTANT IS HOW IT'S IMPLEMENTED REALLY MATTERS AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT THOSE POLICIES ARE.

WHEN SOMEBODY'S GETTING HIRED AND YOU HAVE A STEP PLAN HOW DO YOU HIRE THEM IN A STEP PLAN? IS THERE AN ANSWER TO THAT

QUESTION? >> SO THE IDEA IS THAT WE WOULD CONTINUE TO HIRE AT STEP 1. THE WAY OUR SALARY ADMINISTRATION POLICY NOW WE HIRE AT THE MINIMUM AND THAT'S HOW WE WOULD HIRE. WE WOULD HAVE A POLICY SALARY EXCEPTION POLICY THAT WOULD ALLOW DEPARTMENT HEAD AND ELECTED OFFICIALS TO HIRE UP TO I THINK WE SAID STEP 7 OR 8 WHICH IS MID POINT OF OUR STEPS WITHOUT HAVING TO COME TO COMMISSIONERS COURT. SO I THINK THAT PROBABLY GETS THEM FURTHER THAN THE 25TH PERCENTILE BUT MAYBE NOT QUITE TO THE 50TH. THOSE REQUESTS WOULD STILL COME THROUGH THE. THIS R. OFFICE FOR REVIEW AND THE BUDGET OFFICE. SO WE EVEN IF THE REQUEST HAS TO COME TO COMMISSIONERS COURT WE ARE PREPARED TO COME TO COURT TO HELP THEM LOOK AT RESUMES AND BOUNDARY SO WE WOULD STILL HAVE HIRING MINIMUM BUT WE HAVE OPPORTUNITIES WITH A GUIDELINE.

WE PLAN ON DELLING MATRIX THAT WE COULD CHART THE APPLICANT'S EXPERIENCE AND EDUCATION TO IGNITED US WHICH STEPS WOULD BE APPROPRIATE. DOES THAT ANSWER?

>> AND I GUESS THE REASON I ASK THE QUESTION IS BECAUSE I UNDERSTAND A STEP PLAN AND WE OBVIOUSLY HAVE ONE FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS AND CORRECTIONS OFFICERS IN LAW ENFORCEMENT AND THERE'S THE ABILITY TO HIRE INTO FOUR BUT NO HIGHER. AND OBVIOUSLY I'VE BEEN THROUGH THOSE NEGOTIATIONS AND DISCUSSIONS WITH EMPLOYEES AND THEIR REPRESENTATION WHY THAT IS DONE IS IF YOU'RE VALUING TIME, HOWEVER MUCH WEIGHT YOU PUT ONTO THAT AND WHICH I'M NOT SAIGTD I CONTINUE VALUE THAT FOR COUNTY EMPLOYEES, DO I RECOGNIZE AND VALUE LOYALTY INSTITUTIONAL TIME, SO I'M NOT SAYING I'M NOT NEGLECTING THAT. I'M SAYING IT'S ONE PIECE OF MULTIPLE FACTORS INVOLVED AND ONE IS THE MARKET AND HOW YOU HIRE POOL AND HOW THAT THE IMPLEMENTED BECAUSE IF YOU HAVE A EMPLOYEE AT STEP 5 OR 6 AND SAYING WE CAN HIRE THAT EXACT POSITION SITTING NEXT TO THEM AT STEP 8 I DON'T KNOW HOW THIS IS DOING ANYTHING AT THIS POINT. I THINK IT FALL APART.

IF IT'S ABOUT CONSISTENCY OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT I THINK THAT IS WHERE I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT IT IS THAT OUR EMPLOYEES ARE GETTING. IF I'M LOOKING AT IT FROM THEIR PERSPECTIVE G BEING IN A STEP PLAN.

IF IT'S JUST ABOUT PLACING EVERYBODY AT THEIR HIRE DATE BECAUSE THAT MEANS MORE MONEY FOR EVERYBODY I UNDERSTAND THAT.

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I DON'T KNOW THAT THE BEST WAY TO DO IT IS JUST TO PICK DATES OF HIGH TO DISTRIBUTE ALL THAT BUT OF COURSE I UNDERSTAND WHY WOULD SOME ONE WANT A HIRE DATE VS. THE JOB DATE BECAUSE IT WOULD RESULT IN MORE COMPENSATION.

I'M NOT ARGUING FROM OUR SIDE OF THE EMPLOYEES.

I WOULD EXPECT THEM TO BELIEVE IN THAT AND I UNDERSTAND THAT HIRE DATE IS IMPORTANT EVEN IF IT'S NOT WITH THE CURRENT JOB.

BUT I ALSO BELIEVE THE EXPERIENCE AND THE CURRENT JOB IS ALSO VERY IMPORTANT AND SO HOW WE ALL PUT THOSE TOGETHER IS WHERE I'M COMING TO BUT I GUESS MY QUESTION IS WHAT IS THE STEP PLAN REALLY DO FOR EMPLOYEES IF WE CAN HIRE PEOPLE ANYWHERE INTO IT PRACTICALLY? IT DOESN'T EVEN PROVIDE AN INCREASE IN CERTAIN YEARS. IS THAT CORRECT?

>> THAT'S CORRECT. THE STEP PLAN IS DESIGNED WITH SOME HOLD STEPS AFTER THE FIRST 3-4 YEARS.

I THINK THERE'S A HOLD OF TWO YEARS AN INCREASE ANOTHER HOLD OF TWO YEARS AND IT ADVANCES OUT LIKE THAT.

THE FLAW IN THIS TYPE OF PLAN IS THAT WE HAVE NOT LOOKED BACK AT 754 EMPLOYEES FOR THEIR PREVIOUS EXPERIENCE BEFORE THEY CAME TO WORK HERE. SO, WE ARE ONLY LOOKING AT THEIR PICTURE WHILE THEY HAVE BEEN EMPLOYED WITH HAYS COUNTY AND THE DIFFERENCE IN THAT AND HIRING A NEW EMPLOYEE NEXT WEEK AT STEP 5 OR 8 IS THAT YOU ARE CONSIDERING THEY'RE EXPERIENCE THAT THEY'VE HAD BEFORE THEY COME TO WORK HERE.

SO THERE IS A DIFFERENCE IN CONSIDERING EACH EMPLOYEES BACKGROUND TOO COMMISSIONER SHELL I WANT TO INCLUDE ONE MORE THING TO HER ANSWER AND CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG SHERRY.

WHAT I LIKE ABOUT THE STEP PROGRAM IN PART THAT SOLD ME ON IT WAS ONCE I UNDERSTOOD THE PREDICTABILITY TO ME IS SO VALUABLE, AND SO, ONCE I UNDERSTOOD THIS IS THE ROADMAP THAT THE PERSON AT THE STATE HOUSE OPERATES UNDER, STATE EMPLOYEES AND THAT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT USES THAT STEP PROGRAM THAT LEVEL OF EVOLUTION IN A CAREER PATH PREDICTABILITY, WELL IN TEN YEARS HERE ABOUT WHAT I'LL MAKE IF I TO NOTHING DIFFERENT N. ABOUT 15 YEARS HERE'S WHAT I'LL MAKE.

I THINK THAT'S A GOOD TOOL FOR FAMILIES TO WHATEVER IT BUT KNOW WHAT YOUR ROADMAP IS SO I THOUGHT BEING IN LINE AS A GOVERNMENT WITH THE STATE AND FEDERAL USING THAT PROGRAM I THOUGHT THAT WAS A USEFUL THING. ARE THERE FLAWS IN THE SYSTEM?

IN EVERY SYSTEM THERE WILL BE. >> I THINK IN MY EXPERIENCE IN COLLECTIVE BARGAINING I UNDERSTAND THAT PRIBLGTABILITY AND ARGUMENT AND THE VALUE OF EXPERIENCE OF COURSE.

AGAIN I'M NOT DISCOUNTING THAT COMPLETELY.

IT'S JUST WHEN YOU'RE ABLE TO HIRE SOMEONE, IF SOMEONE WORKED IN A COUNTY THREE YEARS AND WE HAD HIRED THEM THREE YEARS AGO THEY'RE GOING TO BE A 3. WE COULD HIRE SOMEBODY . . . FOR THAT EMPLOYEES IT MEANS NOTHING NOW FOR ME.

IF YOU VALUE MY EXPERIENCE, I'M SENSING THAT'S GOING TO CREATE THE SAME ISSUES WE ALREADY DEAL WITH AND I DON'T THINK THIS IS GOING TO SOLVE THAT PROBLEM. SO IT'S LIKE WE ARE DOING SOMETHING WHICH I JUST DON'T THINK IT'S SOLVEING A PROBLEM WHEN IT COMES TO THAT AND THE PREDICTABILITY I WOULD ARGUE I THINK MY TIME IN THE COUNTY THE AVERAGE INCREASE IN EMPLOYEES IS MORE THAN THAN WHAT THE STEP PLAN PROVIDE FOR.

>> THERE ARE 3 PERCENT DIFFERENCES BETWEEN EACH STEPPED AND THE AVERAGE WAGE INCREASE NOW IN THE MARKET IS PROBABLY

4-5 PERCENT. >> I BELIVE WE PROBABLY ARE AT LEAD 3 PERCENT OVER THE LAST TEN YEARS FOR EMPLOYEES.

>> OR MAYBE 4. >> SO WE ARE ADOPTING A PLAN THAT PROBABLY DOESN'T EVEN MEET WHAT HAS BEEN CURRENT PRACTICE FOR THE LAST TEN YEARS AND ONE IS MARKET DRIVEN.

AGAIN YOU CAN'T MAKE A PLAN THAT THE GOING TO PREDICT THE MARKET.

I'M NOT TRYING TO MAKE IT PERFECT.

I'M SAYING WE ARE ABOUT TO SPEND A BUNCH OF MONEY PLACING PEOPLE IN SOMETHING THAT HAS VALUE BUT ALSO HAS COMPONENTS THAT ARE VERY ARBITRARY AND I'LL JUST SAY THIS AND I WILL SHUT UP ON THIS ISSUE. WHAT I WOULD SUGGEST IS IF IT'S GOING TO BE A STEP PLAN THAT'S FINE.

WE DID THIS ANALYSIS ON EACH PERSON IN THEIR CURRENT POSITION. THAT THE WHAT THE ANALYSIS WAS DONE ON. THAT WE PLACED THEM ACCORDING TO THAT AND WE TAKE THE REMAINDER OF THE FUND AND USE THEM FOR

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DEPARTMENT HEADS AND ELECTED OFFICIALS TO BEST DECIDE HOW TO MOVE THEM AROUND IN THERE THAT MAKES SENSE THAT WOULD ALLOW THE ELECTED FISH OR DEPARTMENT TO TAKE INTO ACCOUNT FOR INSTANCE TO INCUR AN EMPLOYEE NOT JUST HIRE ONE THAT'S GOING TO JUMP THE CURRENT EMPLOYEE. THAT WOULD ALLOW SOME LEVEL OF DISCRETION FOR THEM TO MAKE SURE THAT IF THEY HAVE TAKEN EMPLOYEE THAT HAS GOT FOUR YEARS AND THEY KNOW THEY'VE GOT A VACANCY THEY'RE GOING TO BE FILL NEXT MONTH AND LIKELY GOING TO BE SPENDING MORE AND THEY VALUE THAT EXPERIENCE AND LONGEVITY THAT THEY HAVE A WAY TO DECIDE HOW THEIR STAFF IS PAID ACCORDING TO THEIR EXPERIENCE AND THEIR TIME WITH THE COUNTY AND THEIR VALUE TO THE OFFICE AND COUNTY ET CETERA.

I'M WONDERING IF THERE'S A WAY TO PUT A COMPONENT IN THERE INSTEAD OF SPENDING IT ALL PLACING EVERYBODY AND NEGLECT ON OCTOBER 1ST WE WILL MAKE HIRES FOR NEW POSITIONS AND IT'S LIKELY THE MARKET IS GOING TO SHOW THAT I DOUBT WE WILL BE

HIRING MANY PEOPLE. >> THAT'S CREATIVE COMMISSIONER YOU'RE DESCRIBING WHAT I'M THINKING OF USING THAT MONEY FOR MERIT AND I THINK THAT'S A VERY CREATIVE WAY TO HELP DEPARTMENT HEADS AND ELECTED OFFICIALS TO BETTER MANAGE THEIR DEPARTMENTS AND REWARD THOSE STELLAR PERFORMERS.

>> THAT WAS AN OPTION AT THE PROMOTION DATE, RIGHT? THAT THERE WAS GOING TO BE A POT OF MONEY LEFT THAT WE COULD

ADDRESS THOSE CONCERNS. >> DR. CARDENAS.

>> I CAN CLARIFY A COUPLE OF THINGS.

>> WOULD YOU, AND THEN WE ARE GOING TO GO COMMISSIONER SMITH.

>> 600,000 AROUND 754 IS A THEN SPREAD.

>> IS IT MIRACLE WHIP? >> IT'S THINNER.

>> LAST WEEK I HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH PEOPLE IN THE DEPARTMENT THAT WERE CONCERNED ABOUT THE STEP PLAN IN THAT IT TOOK 30 YEARS TO GET TO TEND AND I DON'T THINK OUR AVERAGE RETIREE HAS BEEN HERE 30 YEARS. I'VE JUST BEEN WORKING ON A PROJECT FOR OUR RETIRE EAST THAT ARE IN OUR HEALTH INSURANCE AND VERY FEW OF THEM ARE EVEN MEDICARE EDGE ELIGIBLE SO THEY LEFT HERE IN 20ISH YEARS. THE OTHER CONCERNS I'VE HEARD IS THERE ARE THE HOLD YEARS AND IN THOSE YEARS, IF THERE'S NO OTHER FUNDING FOR SALARY INCREASES AND THOSE EMPLOYEES THAT HAVE BEEN HERE LONGER BECAUSE THOSE HOLD YEARS DON'T START UNTIL YEARS 4, 5 AND ON, THEN THOSE ARE THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE COMMITTED TO YOU LONGER AND THEY'RE HAVING TO HOLD.

>> WE WOULD HAVE HER IN IT THAT SPACE.

>> IF YOU HAVE MERIT THEN THOSE PEOPLE COULD BE ALLOCATED MERIT.

>> COULD I JUST ASK ONE QUESTION QUICKLY? THE $650,000 THAT WE HAVE IF YOU'RE GOING TO GIVE A PERCENTAGE TO EACH DEPARTMENT FOR EVERY EMPLOYEE AND THEN THEY CAN DIVIDE IT UP THE WAY FEEL IT IS APPROPRIATE TO BRING IN SOME OF THEY FEEL ARE LAGGING BEHIND AS WE HAVE IN THE PAST IN THE MERIT POOL THAT AMOUNT OF MONEY IS HOW MANY PERCENT PER EM EMPLOYEE. [INAUDIBLE]

>> LESS THAN 1 PERCENT. SHE'S BEEN WAITING VERY FANTASIALY AND I WANT TO GIVE DR. CARDENAS A CHANCE TO SAY A

COMMENT. >> I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY A COUPLE OF THINGS BECAUSE I WAS ON THE COMMITTEE AND VERY INVOLVED IN THIS [INDISTINCT] SO I WANT TO CLARIFY A COUPLE OF THINGS, ONE IS YES ABOUT 3 PERCENT PER YEAR ISN'T GOING TO TAKE CARE OF ALL THE CHANGES IN OUR ECONOMY BUT OUR THOUGHT WAS THAT THE COMMISSIONERS COURT WOULD STILL HAVE THE OPTION FOR VOTING FOR A COST OF LIVING INCREASE THAT WOULD RAISE THE WHOLE TABLE PERIODICALLY AS IT WAS NEEDED AND THEN YOU TWO STILL HAVE THIS STRUCTURE, SO THAT THEY WOULDN'T BE STUCK WITH

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THIS MAP FOREVER, THE 3 PERCENT. ANOTHER IS THAT THE REELS FORWARD HAVING A GAP OF 2-3 YEARS IS ONCE THEY GET OUT FURTHER AND THEIR SALARIES ARE HIGHER, THEY'LL BE MORE COMMITTED AND HAVE MORE ASSETS LIKE THEIR RETIREMENT AND THINGS LIKE THAT SO IT'S NOT UNCOMMON TO DO THAT AND THERE HAVE BEEN SOME THOUGHT A 30 YEARS PLAN WAS TO COVER AND MANAGE SO THIS IS ONE WAY TO MANAGE IT AND THE THIRD IS ANDY CASH AND -- THERE'S NO WAY TO COMPENSATE THOSE PEOPLE WHO HAD A LOT OF EXPERIENCE IN A SIMILAR JOB BEFORE THEY CAME HERE SO THERE MAY BE A PROBLEM THERE BUT THE IN HIRING THERE WOULD BE SOME PRETTY STRICT GUIDELINES THAT YOU WOULDN'T PLACE THEM ABOVE STEP 1 UNLESS FOR EXAMPLE YOU COULD PROVE THAT THERE WAS A REAL SCARCITY OF PEOPLE WHO ARE THE POSITION AND A PARTICULAR PERHAPS UNUSUAL CRITERIA REQUIRED TO DO THE JOB.

SO, IT WOULDN'T BE JUST A BLANKET THING THAT ANYBODY COULD JUST GO HIRE ANYBODY AT WHATEVER THEY WANTED TO UP TO STEP A, YOU WOULD HAVE TO MEET CERTAIN CRITERIA FOR IT AS WOULD YOU NORMALLY IF YOU COME TO COURT AND ASK FOR AN EXCEPTION.

MOST OF THE THINGS I HEARD PEOPLE TALKING ABOUT.

>> COMMISSIONER SMITH. >> ON THE THINGS WE TALKED ABOUT I HAVE THREE THINGS I WANTED TO MENTION.

NUMBER 1 ESPECIALLY WHEN WE TALK ABOUT OUR SERVICE JOB, I'M A PRODUCT OF THE FEDERAL STEP SYSTEM AND I KNOW, WERE YOU ON

THE STEP SYSTEM AT THE STATE NO. >> YEAH.

>> SO, IT INCENTIVIZES LONGEVITY AND I GET THAT THERE.

ARE OTHER FACTORS OF THE FEDERAL SYSTEM THEY LOOK AT, PURSUANT TO THE GEOGRAPHIC AREA THAT YOU'RE ASSIGNED TO.

THERE'S A THOUSAND FACTORS THEY CAN FACTOR INTO THAT STEP SYSTEM TO TRY TO MAKE IT MORE COMPETITIVE IN THOSE ENVIRONMENTS AND I THINK ALL THOSE ARE BENEFICIAL IN A SYSTEM LIKE THAT. WHEN I DON'T THINK IT'S BENEFICIAL IS WHEN WE HAVE SVD PROVIDERS IN OUR COUNTRY AND WE ARE SOMEWHAT REMOVING FROM THOSE DEPARTMENTS HEADS THE ABILITY TO REWARD THOSE SERVICE PROVIDERS AND I SAY THAT WHETHER REMOVE PARTY FROM REPUBLICAN DEMOCRAT IF YOU'RE A CITIZEN OF THE U.S.

YOU DON'T LIKE THE BUREAUCRACY WE HAVE AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL AND THE STEP SYSTEM ITSELF HELPS CREATE THAT BECAUSE SOMEONE UNDERSTANDS THAT OVER TIME IT DOESN'T MATTER HOW WELL I RESPOND TO THE CONSTITUENTS THAT I'M SUPPOSED TO BE REPRESENTING I'M GOING TO GET A PAY RAISE NEXT YEAR AND MY BIGGEST FEARED IS RIGHT NOW WITH OUR MERIT SYSTEM, I AGREE THAT WE HAVE ANOTHER FACTOR. I'LL USE THE TAX OFFICE OR CLERK'S OFFICE. IF YOU HAVE AN EMPLOY HAS BEEN FOR FIVE QUEERS AND DECIDE I'M GOING TO HELP 7 CONSTITUENTS TODAY WHEN THEY WALK IN THE DOOR AND YOU HAVE A NEW HIRE EXCITED ABOUT THE JOB DOING THE SAME JOB AND THEY'RE RUNNING 50 PEOPLE THROUGH THE DOOR TODAY, HOW DO YOU RECOGNIZE THAT? HATS WHERE THE MERIT PAY OR SOME FACTOR IN THERE SHOULD BE

FACTORIZED I THINK. >> WELL WHEN WE DISCUSSED IT AND I HAVEN'T SEEN THESE STATS BUT WE SAID THAT THE DEPARTMENT HEADS WOULD HAVE THE DISCRETION EVERY YEAR TO DECIDE IF SOMEBODY WERE UNDERPERFORMING NOT TO GIVE THEM A STEP INCREASE.

AND ALTERNATIVELY THEY COULD GIVE IN DOUBLE STEPS OCCASIONALLY FOR EXCEPTIONAL PERFORMANCE.

>> THIS IS THE FIRST TIME THAT'S BEEN SAID.

THAT'S A CONCERN FOR ME. >> WE DISCUSSED IT AND I THOUGHT WE COULD AGREE ON IT BUT IT'S BEEN A LONG TIME AND A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS DISCUSSED AND I NOTICE TALKING ABOUT DOING MERIT INCREASES AND GIVING DEPARTMENT HEADS THE OPTION TO DISTRIBUTE MERIT MONEY AMONG PEOPLE BUT THAT'S GOING TO LEAD TO US THE SAME PROBLEMS WE HAD BEFORE WITH THINGS GETTING SKEWED BUT IF YOU DO A STEP INCREASE AND LIMIT IT SO YOU CAN'T GIVE THE SAME PERSON THOSE INCREASE EXTRA INCREASES EVERY YEAR BUT YOU PUT SOME KIND OF GUIDELINES ON IT I THINK THAT'S ONE WAY TO RECOGNIZE THE PERFORMANCE OR TO CONSIDER NOT MOVING PEOPLE WHO

DON'T PERFORM. >> THE ABILITY TO ACCELERATE A STEP UNDER THE FUNDS THAT THEY HAVE ON A POOL LIKE THAT, I THINK WOULD BE HELPFUL IF THAT MAKES SENSE AND ALSO THE ABILITY

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TO HAVE A STEP DEMOTION FOR UNDERPERFORMANCE I THINK THAT'S A HUGE FACTOR. THE TWO OTHER THINGS THAT I WANTED TO MENTION ON THE DEPUTY POSITIONS I THINK THAT THOSE ARE UNIQUE AND I THINK THAT THEY ARE SUCH A UNIQUE SET I DON'T THINK THAT YOU CAN TIE THOSE TO ELECTED OFFICIAL SALARIES AND THE REASON I SAY THAT IS BECAUSE IF YOU LOOK AT THOSE ELECTED OFFICIALS I'LL USE THE EXAMPLE EVERY CONSTABLE WE HAVE AND ALL OF THEM HAVE REQUESTED A CHIEF DEPUTY POSITION FOR I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY YEARS IN A ROW. RIGHT? FOR YEARS WE HAVE HAD A CONSTABLE AND THE SHERIFF AS WELL COME IN AND SAY I HAVE A LOT OF EMPLOYEES THAT MAKE MORE THAN I DO. RIGHT? THEY'RE ALL PART OF THE COLLECTIVE BARGAINING AGREEMENT.

WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT IS IF YOU USE THAT ACROSS THE BOARD AND INCLUDE LAW ENFORCEMENT IN IT YOU MAY HAVE A 40 PERCENT PAY CUT FOR THOSE INDIVIDUAL POSITIONS IF THEY HAPPEN TO BE A

PART OF IT. >> SHERRY DO YOU WANT TO ADDRESS

THAT COMMENT? >> ONE OTHER THING BEFORE THAT.

THE OTHER THING I WOULD SAY IS AS WE LOOK AT THE INDIVIDUAL POSITIONS THAT ARE LISTED THE VAST MAJORITY OF THEM GOT A REEVALUATION THIS YEAR. THEY HAVE BEEN AT LEAST LOOKING AT THAT LIST I THINK ALL BUT ONE HAVE BEEN CONSIDERED BY THE COURT WITHIN THE LAST TWO YEARS, THREE YEARS.

AND THE COURT HAS MADE A DETERMINATION ON WHERE THEY SHOULD BE, PLUS WE LOOKED AT IT IN A SALARY STEP OR SALARY EVALUATION PLAN. I THINK THIS IS A THIRD OR FOURTH BITE AT THE APPLE FOR SOME OF THESE OFFICES TO TRY TO GET WHAT THEY DIDN'T GET THE SECOND OR THIRD TIME AND MY CONCERN IS I UNDERSTAND THE NEED TO CREATE A SYSTEM FOR THIS.

ARE SUCH UNIQUE POSITIONS THAT - TYING THEM TO AN ELECTED OFFICIAL'S SALARY MAY NOT BE THE BEST WAY TO GO ABOUT IT.

THEY EACH HAVE SUCH A DIFFERENT JOB DESCRIPTION.

THEY EACH HAVE SUCH A DIFFERENT DUTY AND PERFORMANCE DESCRIPTION THAT JUST TYING THEM TO SOMETHING THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH JOB PERFORMANCE. IT SPECIFICALLY IS TIED TO SOMEBODY ELSE'S SALARY IS A PROBLEM FOR ME.

DOES THAT MAKE SENSE WHAT I'M SAYING?

>> JUST SO YOU KNOW FROM THE COMMITTEE'S PERSPECTIVE WE DID NOT HAVE CONSENSUS IN THE COMMITTEE BUT WE WANTED YOU TO KNOW THAT THIS WAS A TOPIC THAT WAS RESEARCHED AND DISCUSSED AS A WAY TO LOOK AT SOME OF THE REQUESTS THAT WERE SUBMITTED FOR THAT SECOND IN COMMAND POSITION IN SOME OF THE COUNTY'S OFFICES.

>> I JUST LOOK AT IT AND ONE OF THE ONES THAT'S NOT ON HERE IS TRANSPORTATION. I CAN TELL YOU RIGHT NOW, IF WE HAD A DEPUTY TRANSPORTATION DIRECTOR AND WE DECIDE THAT PERSON HAS TO BE A CERTIFIED ENGINEER I WOULDN'T DOUBT THE DEPUTY HAS TO MAKE MORE THAN THE DIRECTOR.

SO THAT'S WHERE I HAVE THAT. I UNDERSTAND WE TIED THIS DIRECTLY NOT TO DEPARTMENT HEADS DIRECTLY TO ELECTED OFFICIALS.

>> CORRECT. >> THOSE ARE SOME OF THE

CONCERNS I'VE HAD. >> EVEN WITH THE ELECTED OFFICIALS THERE WAS A SORT OF WHICH ELECTED OFFICIALS OFFICES, REMEMBER THAT PART ABOUT THERE WAS A LOT OF THOUGHT PROCESS THAT WENT INTO THIS STEPS FOR CONTINUITY AND THE ELECTED OFFICE IS VERY DIFFERENT THAN THOSE DEPARTMENT HEADS AND THEN WITH AN ELECTED OFFICE THERE WAS A LOT OF ANALYSIS ABOUT TASKS AND DUTIES AND RESPONSIBILITIES. DR. CARDENAS AM I MISSING

ANYTHING ON THAT FRONT? >> I THINK WHAT WE DISCUSSED WHAT A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT BECAUSE THE ELECTED OFFICIALS FIRST IN LINE REALLY HAS TO BE FILL IN FOR THEM AND MAKE DECISIONS AND REPRESENT THEM AND THE OFFICE AND IN ADDITION TO BEING THE SORT OF CHIEF OF STAFF OF THE WHOLE PLACE AND THAT THEY DON'T HAVE THE SAME GUARANTEES OTHERS DO BECAUSE THEY'RE USUALLY BROUGHT IN OR CAN BE BY THE ELECTED OFFICIAL AND SO THEY DON'T HAVE THE SAME KIND OF PROMISE OF LONG-TERM LONGEVITY.

IT'S POSSIBLE A PERSON COMING IN WOULD KEEP THEM BUT NORMALLY THEY'RE TIED TO THE ELECTED OFFICIALS BECAUSE YOU WANT TO HAVE SOMEBODY YOU TRUST WHO IS LOYAL WHO HAS THE KIND OF SKILL SET YOU WANT TO BRING IN TO FURTHER YOUR GOALS SO WE SEE IT

AS BEING A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT. >> I DIDN'T HAVE A CHANCE TO COMMENT ON THAT AND WOULD LIKE TO TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY BUT THOSE POSITIONS HAVE BEEN ANALYZED AND GRADED.

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I'M GOING BACK TO MY COMMENTS BEFORE.

AT SOME POINT, IS ENOUGH ENOUGH? CAN WE NOT JUST DECIDE THAT WE HAVE PUT THESE POSITIONS WHERE THEY SHOULD GO? AND THEY'RE ALL USED DIFFERENTLY.

IN MY OPINION, I UNDERSTAND THE IDEA OF THE ELECTED OFFICIAL AND YOU KNOW, AS THEY GET THAT JOB THAT ELECTED OFFICIAL CHANGES.

THEREFORE, THEY MAY BE OUT OF EMPLOYMENT.

THAT IS WHAT YOU SIGN UP FOR. I DID IT.

THAT'S WHAT I SIGNED UP FOR. YOU UNDERSTAND THAT GOING IN.

THERE HAS TO STILL BE SOME UNDERSTANDING THAT THESE POSITIONS ARE WORKING FOR THE PUBLIC AND THAT THE THEIR JOB.

THEY'RE NOT TO WORK FOR ANOTHER ELECTED OFFICIAL AND THEY WORK FOR THE CITIZENS OF HAYS COUNTY. THEIR JOB SUBSCRIPTIONS HAVE BEEN ANALYZED OVER AND OVER AGAIN THEY'VE BEEN PLACED IN A RANGE AND I THINK ENOUGH HAS TO BE ENOUGH ON THIS.

THEY'RE SUPERVISORS OF ELECTED OFFICIALS BUT THEY WORK FOR CITIZENS OF HAYS COUNTY AND THE JOB THEY PROVIDE FOR THE CITIZENS OF HAYS COUNTY SHOULD DETERMINED HOW THEY GET PAID NOT A PERCENTAGE OF ELECTED OFFICIAL PAY THAT CAN CHANGE BY A GRIEVANCE TO THE MY THAT'S RIDICULOUS.

>> AS SOMEONE WHO I SPENT TIME AS WELL AS THE STEP SYSTEM THERE'S A VERY DIRECT REASON THAT MEMBERS OF CONGRESS DON'T OPERATE ON STEP SYSTEM. IT'S BECAUSE WHENEVER THOSE INDIVIDUAL ASSUME THAT DUTY THEY ASSUME IT'S ATTACHED TO THAT ELECTED OFFICIAL AND SHOULD THAT OFFICIAL NOT BE THERE THEY WOULD BE OUT OF THE JOB. THAT THE THE SUPPLEMENTS YOU TAKE WHEN YOU'RE IN THAT POSITION.

LOOKING AT THE PLAN THE COMPENSATION COMMITTEE CAME UP WITH I THINK THE PLAN IS A GOOD PLAN TWHIMT COMES TO IMPLEMENTATION DATE VS. JOB DATE I THINK COMMISSIONER SHELL BRINGS UP GOOD POINTS THAT I REALLY HADN'T CONSIDERED A COUPLE OF THEM.

I THINK T WAY HE DISCUSSED IS POSITIVE.

AS FAR AS THE PERSONAL PLACEMENT AND REGRADE CONSIDERATIONS WHENEVER WE COME BACK AT ONE WHEN WE ARE LOOKING AT WHAT TO DO I WOULD BE AN ADVOCATE AND PROBABLY OFFER THE MOTION TO ADOPT WHATEVER THE COMMITTEE BROUGHT FORTH AS FAR AS THOSE PLACEMENT AND REGRADE RECOMMENDATIONS.

BECAUSE I THINK IT'S OBVIOUS Y'ALL DID A LOT OF WORK ON IT.

>> WE REALLY DID. >> AND I WOULD BE ACCEPTING OF THAT, BUT I REALLY WOULD LIKE TO TRY TO FLESH OUT A LITTLE BIT MORE OF THE CONCEPT THAT COMMISSIONER SHELL HAD BECAUSE IT DOES ADDRESS SOME OF THE CONCERNS I HAD MAYBE NOT ALL OF THEM BUT SOME OF THEM IF THAT MAKES SENSE.

THE ONE EXCEPTION ON THAT THAT I MIGHT WANT TO TALK ABOUT AND THE ONLY REASON I SAY THIS IS BECAUSE IT'S BEEN TO COMMISSIONER SHELL'S POINT WHEN IS ENOUGH ENOUGH, BUT THE ONLY REASON I BRING THIS UP IT'S BEEN IN HERE FOR OVER THERE FOR THAT INDIVIDUAL SERVICE IS FIVE BAD EXECUTIVE ASSISTANT OFFICIALS NOT JUST ONE SO I DON'T KNOW IF THE REGRADE IS CALLED FOR OR A DIFFERENT TITLE BUT THAT'S ONE THAT'S BEEN A CONSTANT FOR A WHILE. AGAIN I HAVE A LOT OF CONCERNS BUT I THINK THAT WE ARE, IT'S OBVIOUS THAT AS A COMMITTEE Y'ALL DID YEOMAN'S WORK. I HAVE TO PUT SOME TRUST IN THAT I CAN DISAGREE WITH SOME OF IT BUT I CAN BE ACCEPTING IN

GENERAL OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS. >> WHAT I'M GOING TO DO NEXT COMMISSIONER TO KEEP US MOVING IS ASK VICKY AND SHERRY IF THEY HAVE SOME ADDITIONAL INFORMATION TO PRESENT OR ANY QUESTIONS CLARIFYING QUESTIONS FOR DIRECTION.

JUST TO KEEP IT MOVING. WE HAVE THE REST OF THE COURT AND 30 MINUTES THE OTHER. I'M ENCOURAGING YOU TO GET TO IT WHATEVER IS USEFUL NEXT LET'S GET TO THAT.

AND THANK YOU MISS MILLER. >> SO, YOU DON'T HAVE TO TAKE ACTION ON ANY OF THESE ITEMS HERE IN THE BUDGET WORKSHOP.

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YOU CAN DO THAT AT A PUBLIC HEARING AT 1:00.

WE CAN GO OVER THESE ITEMS THAT ARE ON THESE FIRST TWO PAGES.

I'VE BROKEN THEM DOWN TO WHERE YOU CAN SECTION THEM OFF AND YOU CAN ASK QUESTIONS OR WE CAN DISCUSS THEM IN DEENTERTAINMENT OBVIOUSLY THE SALARY PIECE IS PROBABLY WARRANTS A LITTLE MORE CONVERSATION. ALL OF THE DETAILS ARE IN THE BACKUP. THEY JUST WERE 14-37 SO IF WE WANT TO TAKE A BREAK AND GO OVER SOME OF THAT WITH THE QUESTIONS YOU WANT TO US CALCULATE ANY OF OUR SCENARIOS.

>> HERE'S HOW CAN I SEE THIS UNFOLDING.

WE COULD CLOSE TO WORKSHOP UNLESS YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR THINGS YOU MAY WANT VICKY TO CALCULATE AND THEN CONTINUE THIS AT 1:00 SO WE CAN MOVE THROUGH THE REST OF THE COURT.

WHAT DO YOU THINK? IS THAT OKAY?

>> I WOULD ASK IF THERE'S ANY, IF MY IDEA IS A WASTE OF TIME THEN I THINK WE SHOULD JUST TELL VICKY IT'S A WASTE OF TIME.

ABOUT SOME HYBRID OF STUFF AND MERIT, I THINK IN ORDER FOR US TO BE ABLE TO MAKE A DECISION ON ALL THESE THINGS IN THE AFTERNOON WE NEED TO KNOW WHERE WE'RE HEADING WITH THAT.

IF IT IS WHAT IS PRESENTED, I CAN COUNT.

I'M FINE WITH THAT UNDERSTANDING.

I THINK WE SHOULD GIVE THAT DIRECTION.

DO WE WANT HER TO GO BACK AND PLAY WITH ANY NUMBERS OR ARE WE

SAYING. >> MERIT.

>> THIS IS FINE. JUST PLACEMENT AT EITHER ONE OF THESE TWO DATES, UNDERSTANDING ONE WOULD BE DELAYED START.

>> JUDGE I THINK YOU MADE A GOOD POINT, THOUGH AFTER COMMISSIONER SHELL SPOKE UP POINTED OUT THERE'S? REAL MERIT TO THAT THAT'SY REALLY DO WANT TO CONSIDER IT AND JUST THE EXAMPLES THAT I GAVE EARLIER, I THINK THE POINTS THAT COMMISSIONER SHELL MADE AND YOU ADDED TO, THEY REALLY PUT INTO PERSPECTIVE TO ME A HYBRID MIGHT BE THE WAY TO GO.

I JUST THINK THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT WE MAY NOT HAVE CONSIDERED UP UNTIL Y'ALL MADE THOSE TWO POINTS OR ME ANYWAY, AND I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT, IF THAT --

>> BUT LET'S TRY TO SEE IF WE CAN ENENCAPSULATE SOME OF THESE CONVERSATIONS SO WE CAN FUNNEL THEM INTO YOUR THOUGHT PROCESS.

YOU TELL ME IF I'M OUT OF LINE ON THE RECAP OF COURSE AS ALWAYS. SUPPORT THE STEP PROGRAM USING DATE OF HIRE, STARTING FEBRUARY 1ST, BUT LEAVE SOME MONEY FOR MERIT FOR THE FINER ARTICULATION FROM DEPARTMENT HEADS.

>> BUT IS THERE NOTION LEFT OVER?

WE DO THAT? >> THERE'S NOT.

>> THERE'S NOT. SO.

>> THE FIRST OPTION WOULD BE THE HIRE DATE FEBRUARY 1.

THAT'S OPTION 1. >> OKAY.

>> SO IF THAT'S THE WILL OF THE COURT.

>> SO, STEP WITH HIRE DATE FEBRUARY 1.

>> AND THEN ANOTHER CONSIDERATION WOULD BE THE

PROMOTION DATE AS OF OCTOBER 1. >> AND THEN USE MERIT

DIFFERENCE. >> AND TAKE THE DIFFERENCE.

>> WHICH IS ABOUT 1.5 PERCENT. >> AND ALLOCATE THAT.

>> TOWARD MERIT. >> TOWARD MERIT AND IT COULD BE LET'S SAY THE COURT SAYS WE WANT TO PUT THAT INTO EMPLOYEES.

YOU COULD SAY FOR EACH DEPARTMENT YOU TAKE THE DELTA BETWEEN PROMOTION AND HIRE DATE AS CALCULATED AND YOU SAY THAT'S IT THAT COULD BE ONE SOLUTION. YOU THEN HAVE THAT.

THERE COULD BE A DEPARTMENT THAT HAS NOTHING BEYOND PROMOTION DATE. YOU GOT THREE EMPLOYEES, THEY'RE THERE, THEY'RE PLACED THERE'S NO DIFFERENCE IN HIRING AND PROTOMOTION THERE'S NO MONEY FOR HER IN IT THAT.

THAT WOULD BE ONE OPTION TO DO WHEN YOU JUST SAY TAKE THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE FUNDS OF IMPLEMENTING THE TWO ONE OCTOBER VS. FEBRUARY AND ALLOCATE THEM BACK TO THOSE DEPARTMENTS BASED ON WHERE THEY CAME FROM WHICH WAS HIRE DATE VS. PROMOTION DATE AND IF THE DEPARTMENT HAD WANTED TO STRICTLY APPLY THAT THE HIRE DATE THEY THREE RECEIPT I CANLY COULD IN THAT MODEL IF THEY SO CHOEGS TO FOLLOW HIRE DATE AND THAT'S HOW THEY WANTED TO PLACE THEIR EMPLOYEES THEN THEY COULD DO THAT.

>> OKAY, SO IT'S KIND OF A DECISION OF IF I CAN TRY TO BOIL IT DOWN IN A REALIZE THEY ARE OR APPROACH BECAUSE THAT IS HOW IT SOUNDS LIKE, TWO OPTIONS, TO SAY FEBRUARY 1ST USING HIRE DATE OR A HYBRID? HOW DO YOU WANT TO GIVE VICKY DIRECTION TO GO CALCULATE FOR 1:00?

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>> WELL, I THINK YOU'VE CALCULATED THOSE TWO OPTIONS.

HAVEN'T YOU? YOU CALCULATED THE HIRE DATE STARTING FEBRUARY 1ST AND THE PROMOTION DATE OCTOBER 1ST, OCTOBER ONE, WITH A POT OF MONEY LEFT OVER TO GIVE ALMOST 1.5 PERCENT OR JUST BELOW 1.5 PERCENT FOR EACH EMPLOYEE FOR

HER IT. >> MY PREFERENCE IS YOU'RE RIGHT. THE MATH HAS BEEN DONE SO YOU

DON'T NEED ANY NEW WORK. >> YEAH, I THINK WE JUST NEED TO

GET VICKY THE DIRECTION. >> TO YOUR POINT I DO LIKE THAT OPTION JUDGE AND THE REASON I SAY THAT IS WE HAVE SOME DEPARTMENT HEADS WHO ARE ADAMANT THEY WANT THE HIRE DATE.

RIGHT? THIS ALLOWS THEM THE ABILITY TO DO THAT. IT GIVES THEM EVERY RIGHT TO DO THAT WITHIN OUR DEPARTMENT. ON THOSE CERTAIN SCENARIOS LIKE I JUST ELEVATED WHERE YOU'VE GOT REALLY SERVICE ORIENTED INDIVIDUALS, IT ALSO GIVES THEM THE OPPORTUNITY WITH THAT MERIT PAY TO INCENTIVIZE THOSE OTHER EMPLOYEES SO IT REALLY GIVES BOTH EITHER THE ELECTED OFFICIAL OR THE DEPARTMENT HEAD THE ABILITY TO MANAGE THEIR DEPARTMENT AS THEY BEST SEE FIT AND SO IT PLACES THAT, DOESN'T NECESSARILY REMOVE FROM IT THE COURT BECAUSE WE ARE THE ONE GIVING THEM THE OPTION BUT IT GIVES MORE, I GUESS IT GIVES MORE ABILITY TO THOSE DEPARTMENT HEADS AND INDIVIDUAL ELECTED OFFICIALS TO CONTROL THE BUDGET

AS THEY SEE FIT. >> VICKY, DOES THAT MAKE SENSE IN A WAY THAT YOU WOULD SEE A TRANSITION OPTION?

>> I'M SORRY. SHERRY WAS TALKING TO ME THROUGH PART OF THAT. COULD WE GO OVER THAT?

>> IS THERE A WAY TO RECAP THAT BULLETIN?

>> WHAT I'M SAYING IS FINANCIALLY IT WOULD GIVE THE INDIVIDUAL DEPARTMENT HEADS AND ELECTED OFFICIALS THE ABILITY TO GO WITH THAT START DATE SHOULD THEY WANT.

HOWEVER, IT ALSO HAS IF THOUGH CHOOSE NOT TO, IT PUTS THE POWER IN HER HANDS TO TRY TO INCENTIVIZE THOSE EXCEPTIONAL EMPLOYEES. I SEE IT AS A CLEAR OPTION.

>> I THINK WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, PROMOTION DATE WITH THE ABILITY TO USE THE POOL TO MOVE THOSE EMPLOYEES.

>> WELL NO, IT WOULD BE EXACTLY PROMOTION DATE YES PROMOTION DATE WITH THE ABILITY IF THEY WANT TO GO WITH START DATE THEY CAN USE IT FOR START DAY. 3 IT GIVES THEM THE OPTION.

THAT WAY THEY CAN FIND OUT EXACTLY WHAT THE BEST OPTION IS.

>> TO GIVE THE OPTION THEY WANT TO GIVE THE EMPLOYEE THE RAISE.

>> SO IN SUMMARY. >> HIRE DATE THAT YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL FEBRUARY VS. WE WANT TO GIVE YOU PROMOTION DATE SO YOU CAN MOVE, SO WE WE WOULD HAVE TO FUND IT

AT ASSUMING HIRE DATE. >> CALL IT MERIT AND WHATEVER IS IN THE DEPARTMENT HEAD'S MIND OF I WANT TO GIVE THIS PERSON HIRE DATE AND I WANT TO GIVE THIS PERSON NOT QUITE WHAT IT WOULD COST TO GIVE HIRE DATE, THAT WAY THE DECISION IS IN THE DEPARTMENT HEAD'S HANDS AND IT'S TRULY HOPEFULLY BASED ON MERIT OF THE EMPLOYEES PERFORMANCE. YOU START DETAILING THAT

DIFFERENT SCENARIO. >> IT MAKES IT IMPOSSIBLE FOR

YOU TO EXECUTE. >> EXPLAIN THAT AND --

>> IF YOU SAID -- >> IF YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH THAT

CONCEPT. >> IF YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A STEP THERE HAS TO BE SOME START BASE POINT OF THE STEP.

AGAIN, IF YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE ONE, EVERYBODY HAS GOT, YOU'VE GOT TO START SOMEWHERE. YOU'VE GOT TO CHOOSE A STEP THAT EVERYBODY IS IN. THAT'SY WAS SAYING USE PROMOTION DATE IN PLACE, EVERYBODY IN A STEP BASED ON THEIR PROMOTION DATE. START WITH THAT THEN SAY WE HAVE PER DEPARTMENT X DOLLARS AND APPLY THEM TO POTENTIALLY TO THEIR HIRE DATE AT MAX IT TWO PUT EVERYONE AT THE HIRE DATE VS. THEIR PROMOTION DATE OR IT COULD BE WHENEVER THOSE FUNDS ARE AVAILABLE TO BE ALLOCATED ON WHATEVER DATE THEY COULD BE APPROVED. AND THEN EACH DEPARTMENT WOULD HAVE UNTIL NOW UNTIL FEBRUARY 1ST.

THEY TWO KNOW EACH EMPLOYEE IS GETTING SET AT A PROCEED MAKES DATE STEP AND HAVE THESE FUNDS AVAILABLE TO DEAD SIDE UNTIL FEBRUARY 1 OF ANY OTHER MOVEMENTS IN MY DEPARTMENT.

THEY COULD CHOOSE NONE. AM I SPEAKING A FOREIGN

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LANGUAGE? >> NO, I GET IT.

>> WE TYPICALLY WOULD ANNUALIZE THAT.

>> MAX OUT LIKE ASSUMING THEY'RE GOING TO APPLY ON FEBRUARY 1.

>> EVEN IF IT'S FEBRUARY 1 SO IT WOULD DECREASE EACH MONTH YES.

>> AND THE REASON COMMISSIONER THAT WOULD WORK IN ONE OF THE SCENARIOS THAT PLAYED OUT IN MY MIND DURING THIS COMPENSATION COMMITTEE MEETING THIS WAS SOMEONE FOR EXAMPLE FRESHLY PROMOTED WORKING FOR THE GOVERNMENT FOR QUITE SOME TIME SUPERVISOR PEOPLE TOOK A LEED ROLE HELPING US RUN THIS GOVERNMENT AND IN CERTAIN INSTANCES WAS GOING TO END UP AS NEW HIRE PAY SO THIS WOULD ALLOW THAT ELECTED OFFICIAL DEPARTMENT HEAD TO MOVE THOSE ISOLATED MOMENTS UP.

DOES THAT MAKE SENSE DR. CARDENAS?

YOU HEARD EVERYTHING. >> I'M NOT FOLLOWING.

>> SO LET'S JUST SAY WE HAVE AN EMPLOYEE NOW SUPERVISORS 3-5 PEOPLE FILL IN THE BLANK AND THE ORIGINAL PLAN PROTEST WAS WELL, THIS NEW PERSON UNDER THIS STEP PROGRAM IS NOW GOING TO MAKE THE SAME MONEY AS THIS PERSON HAD A PROGRESSED AND TAKEN ON E AND - LEADERSHIP ROLES AND NOW IS IN CHARGE OF FOLKS AND DOING MORE AS AN INDIVIDUAL BUT IS GOING TO END UP THE SAME PLAY AS BRAND NEW EMPLOYEE. NOBODY THINKS THAT'S A GOOD IDEA SO THIS CONVERSATION AS IT'S UNFOLDING BEFORE US WITH ALL THE FACTS IN FRONT OF US IS ALLOWING THAT SUPERVISOR TO SAY, OKAY, YOU ARE MORE THAN A NEW HIRE. YOU HAVE EMPLOYEES.

YOU HAVE MORE RESPONSIBILITY AND YOU BECAUSE OF THIS POOL OF MONEY, YOU WILL BE COMPENSATED TO MAKE UP FOR THAT.

>> BUT I'M NOT FOLLOWING. I DO GET THAT BECAUSE THE CASE

WAS IN MY OFFICE. >> I DIDN'T SAY THAT.

>> WHO WOULD HAVE DONE PROBABLY BETTER IF SHE HAD NOT MOVED UP.

>> SURE. >> WHICH WAS REALLY ODD.

BUT NO, ARE YOU SAYING THAT YOU WOULD DO DATE OF PROMOTION START OF FEBRUARY 1ST AND GIVE THE DIFFERENCE?

>> DATE OF PROMOTION STARTING OCTOBER ONE.

>> THEN YOU WOULD GET -- >> THAT POOL OF MONEY IS AVAILABLE FEBRUARY 1ST TO EITHER USE IT TO SAY DATE OF HIRE OR TO

SAY HER IT. >> IT'S LIKE HERE'S A CHECK YOU FIX THE INDIVIDUAL VARIATIONS YOU SEE FIT.

>> FEBRUARY 1 TO END OF THE YEAR.

>> THAT WOULD BE UP TO YOU. YOU COULD.

>> YOU COULD USE THE MONEY TO SET SOMEONE'S SALARY ANNUALIZED FROM THAT POINT ON SO THEIR PAYCHECK FROM THAT DAY ON WOULD CHANGE BASED UPON ANNUALIZED DIFFERENCE FOR WHAT YOU'RE SEEING THEIR SALARY S. YOU'RE NOT GOING TO GIVE THEM A FULL YEAR OF MERIT BECAUSE IT'S BUDGETED ONLY AVAILABLE AS OF FEBRUARY 1ST SO YOU COULD PUT THEM IN ANOTHER RANGE AND THEY WOULD START GET IT AT ANNUALIZED RATE THAT PAY FOR THAT RANGE.

I TELL YOU WHAT I'M GOING TO DO. I'M LEAGUE TO GET Y'ALL FIGURE

IT OUT. >> WE ARE ALMOST DONE.

YES, MA'AM. >> THERE'S ALSO INSTANCES WHERE PEOPLE HAVE PROMOTED MULTIPLE GRADES RECENTLY AND HAVE BEEN HERE A LONG TIME AND HAVE GOTTEN IN $15,000 RAISES AND THEY'RE JUST NOW DOING THE JOB THAT THEY'RE PROMOTED TO DO, A DIFFERENT JOB. SO THERE'S BOTH SCENARIOS.

>> THAT'S TRUE. >> THERE'S PEOPLE THAT PROMOTED MAYBE JUST A COUPLE OF GRADES AND SO, THEY'RE NOT MOVING OUT AS FAR AND THEN THERE'S PEOPLE THAT HAVE PROMOTED MULTIPLE GRADES THAT HAVE RECEIVED LARGE RAISES THAT WILL THEN GET

ANOTHER 15. >> LET ME TRY TO RESTATE THIS AND SEE IF THIS MAKES SENSE. WE GO WITH, AND IF YOU GUYS GIVE ME A NOD OR SHRUG I'M GOOD WITH THAT.

WE GO WITH PROMOTION DATE WE LEAVE THAT EXTRA POT OF MONEY FOR EACH ELECTED OFFICIAL DEPARTMENT HEAD TO MAKE THOSE INTERNALIZED FINER BEGAN LATED EDITS AND WE TAKE OFF FROM THERE. SOUND GOOD? I CAN COUNT TO 3. [LAUGHTER]

>> TO BE CLEAR TOO AND I HAVE THE DETAILS IN YOUR BACKUP, THERE ARE IN BOTH SCENARIOS INDIVIDUALS THAT WILL NOT GET A

RAISE. >> BECAUSE THEY WERE PART OF THE 10 PERCENT. LET'S BE HONEST AND VIEWERS, NOT SAYING YOU WERE BEING DISONES. THEY WERE ABOUT THE 10 PERCENT OR MORE BECAUSE THEY WERE PLACED AT MARKET THAT PUSHED THEM

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HIGHER THAN 10 PERCENT. >> THEY HAVE BEEN ADDRESSED IN OTHER SETTINGS WHICH AT THIS MOMENT WOULD NOT GIVE THEM MENTIONED EARLIER ADDITIONAL BITE AT THE APPLE BUT IT HAS BEEN ADDRESSED. NO ONE IS AT PRESURVEY SALARY.

>> BUT IF THAT DEPARTMENT HEAD OR ELECTED OFFICIAL FELT THEY WANTED TO ADDRESS THAT THEY COULD USE THAT.

>> $600-SOMETHING DOLLARS WOULD GO TO THAT I THINK THAT'S GOING

TO BE OUR COMPROMISE. >> OKAY.

>> HOW ABOUT THAT? WE CLOSE THE WORKSHOP.

WE GO THROUGH THE REST OF THE COURT AND COME BACK AT 1:00 OR

WHAT ELSE WOULD YOU LIKE TO HIT? >> WE CAN GO THROUGH THIS LIST

NOW. >> LET'S PAUSE UNTIL 1:00.

>> [INAUDIBLE] >> WHAT DO YOU MEAN? WE ARE GOING TO CONTINUE IT AT 1:00.

OKAY, THAT GAVEL SAYS THE WORKSHOP IS CLOSED.

WE WILL MOVE THROUGH THIS IN TEN MINUTES.

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G-11 AUTHORIZE THE EXECUTION OF RENEWAL AGREEMENT FOR 31,376.

WEST LAW ON LINE LEGAL RESEARCH SERVICES FOR USE BY HAYS COUNTY JUDGES AND STAFF WITH BUDGET FOR 2024 BUDGET.

G-12 UTILITY PERMITS, GIVE-13 AUTHORIZE PAYMENT TO RICHARD COWELL TACTICAL WHERE THE AMOUNT WAS EDWARD 554 AND 50 SEND TO PURCHASE THE CARRIER FOR THE CONSTABLE OFFICE.

>> G-15 AUTHORIZE PAYMENT TO PANORAMIC SOFTWARE, IN THE AMOUNT OF IN WHICH NO PURCHASED ORDER WAS ISSUED AS REQUIRED PER COUNTY PURCHASING POLICY. G-16 AUTHORIZE COUNTY JUDGE TO EXECUTE THE FIRST AMENDMENT FOR TIME EXTENSION FOR THE CONTRACT BETWEEN HAYS COUNTY AND VISTA PLANNING AND DESIGN FOR WORK ON SENTINAL PEAK PRESERVE MASTER PLAN PHASE 2 A AND B.

G-17 AUTHORIZE THE COUNTY JU JUDGE . . .

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>> AND AUTHORIZE PURCHASING TO SOLICIT PROPOSALS AND ADVERTISE.

G IDENTIFY 23 AMEND VARIOUS DEPARTMENTAL SPECIAL REVENUE AND CAPITAL PROJECT BUDGET FUNDS IN PREPARATION FOR THE COUNTY'S FIST CAT YEAR 2023 YEAR END PROCESS.

G-24 AUTHORIZE PAYMENT TO AMG PRINT AND MAILING IN THE AMOUNT OF 1015 AND 72 CENTS FOR THE TERESCHENKO'S OFFICE IN WHICH NO PURCHASE ORDER WAS ISSUED AS REQUIRED.

G-25 APPROVE COMMISSIONER PRECINCT 4 TO CONTRIBUTE COMMUNITIES FOLLOWING.

>> YOU GET THREE MINUTES. THIS WILL BRING THE LODGE PROJECT UP TO ABOUT $230,000. WE'RE ASKING FOR 13 PERCENT INCREASE WHAT WAS ALLOCATED FOR THIS PROJECT.

WHEN I LOOK AT THE BACKUP ALL I SEE IS LIKE REPAIRS FOR SPRINKLERS, SPRINKLER HEADS AND IRRIGATION EQUIPMENT.

AND LEAKS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. AND APPARENTLY WE ARE NOT THROUGH WITH THE PROJECT YET. BUT IS THERE NO GUARANTEE ON THIS STUFF? I KNOW WE HAVE HAD A PROBLEM IN THE PAST FOR THINGS LIKE THE JAIL.

IS THERE ALSO NO GUARANTEE FOR THIS PROJECT AND THAT'S MY BE.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH AND WE WILL TELL YOU THAT IN THE SPIRIT OF TRYING TO BE MOST EFFICIENT AND MOST FRUGAL THERE WAS AN ATTEMPT TO NOT BUY THINGS THAT WERE IN PLACE AND ESTABLISHED AND SO I'LL LET TAMMY SPEAK ON THAT MORE OR COMMISSIONER INGLESBY BUT I WILL SAY THAT SOMETIMES YOU SET THIS THING UP.

I'LL SAY SPRINKLER PIPE FOR EXAMPLE.

WE HAVE GOT A 25-YEAR-OLD SPRINKLER PIPE IN THERE, LET'S KEEP USING IT YOU PUT IT UNDER NEW SYSTEM NEW PRESSURE IT STARTS TO CRACK AND DOG GONE I GOT TO REPLACE.

I WE TRIED TO SAVE THE MONEY BUT IT DIDN'T WORK.

TAMMY. >> TAMMY DIRECTOR OF OPERATIONS, YO'RE CORRECT THIS SYSTEM BEING AGED IN DOING THE CONCRETE PROJECT WE WENT FROM THREE INCHES TO FIVE INCHES OF CONCRETE AND THAT REQUIRED SOME OF THOSE SPRINKLER HEADS TO BE REPLACED. THEY WERE DAMAGED ALREADY AND SOME OF THEM REQUIRED REPLACEMENT.

>> I THINK WE ARE JUST WINDING UP.

WE JUST HAVE A FEW INVOICES WE NEED TO TAKE A LOOK AT AND GET PAID BUT OTHER THAN WE ARE DONE WITH THE PROJECT.

>> AND I THINK THIS WEEKEND WAS THE FIRST TIME THE PUBLIC WAS ALLOWED AUDIT SO THAT WAS COOL TO SEE A LIGHT USE BUT A REINTRODUCTION OF GROUNDS FOR OUR COMMUNITY TO BENEFIT FROM.

>> THE ONLY THEY ARE THING I WOULD MENTION IS I DID SPEAK WITH SOME CITY STAFF AND CITY MANAGER TO LET THEM KNOW THAT

THERE WAS AN INCREASE IN COST. >> BEAUTIFUL THANK YOU.

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PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

>> LET'S TRY TO PUSH THROUGH SOME DECISIONS.

[I1. Discussion and possible action to authorize the County Judge to execute Contract Amendment No. 4 in the amount of $40,000.00 to the Professional Services Agreement with WSB & Associates, Inc. for the US 290 West at Trautwein Road Intersection project in Precinct 4, as part of the 2016 Road Bond Program, utilizing a discretionary exemption pursuant to Texas Local Government Code Ch. 262.024(a)(4). SMITH/BORCHERDING]

>> JUDGE, THIS PROJECT ITSELF IS ACTUALLY GOING TO CONSTRUCTION THROUGH TXDOT I WANT TO SAY THE FIRST OR SECOND WEEK OF OCTOBER.

>> THIS ADDRESSES THOSE. >> PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

[I2. Discussion and possible action to authorize the County Judge to execute Change Order No. 3 in the amount of $92,978.49 to the Professional Services Agreement with BGE, Inc. for the RM 12 Safety Improvements near the intersection of Mountain Crest and Skyline Drive project in Precinct 3, as part of the 2016 Road Bond Program, utilizing a discretionary exemption pursuant to Texas Local Government Code Ch. 262.024(a) (4). SHELL/BORCHERDING]

PROJECT IS THE ALIGNMENT OF MOUNTAIN CREST AND SKYLINE JUST OUT OUTSIDE OF WOMEN -- WIMBERLY.

THIS INCREASE LAST A LOT TO DO WITH COMMUNITY EVENING

GAUGEMENT. >> I BELIEVE AFTER THERE WE SHOULD BE BE ABLE TO GET THE TURNED OVER.

>> TXDOT IS MANAGE ANY OF SENT. >> COMMISSIONER INGLESBY.

[I3. Hold a public hearing with possible action to establish a 3-way stop at the intersection of Green Pastures Road and Country Lane. INGALSBE/BORCHERDING]

[I4. Hold a public hearing with possible action to establish a 3-way stop at the intersection of Bunton Lane, Heidenreich Lane, and Dairy Road. INGALSBE/BORCHERDING]

THEY LOOK GREAT. >> JUST FOR SAFETY, REASONS, ANYWAY. YES WE WOULD LIKE TO ESTABLISH

THESE. >> CALL THE ROLL.

>> COMMISSIONER SHELL. >> COMMISSIONER COHEN.

>> COMMITTEE INGLESBY. >> AND JUST TO MAKE SURE

[I5. Discussion and possible action to accept fiscal surety for street and drainage improvements in the amount of $381,390.20 for the Driftwood, Phase 1, Lot 2, Revised Plat (Irrevocable Standby Letter of Credit No. 1103466966). SMITH/BORCHERDING]

COMMISSIONER INGLESBY MADE A SECOND AND WE HAD A SECOND.

>> SUBMIT. >> SECOND.

>> COMMISSIONER ANYTHING ELSE? PLEASE CALL THE ROLL

[I6. Discussion and possible action to consider the release of the subdivision performance bond #7901063583 in the amount of $372,201.25 for phase 4, and #7901063582 in the amount $863,725.25 for phase 5, and the acceptance of the roads into the County Road Maintenance System for Trails at Windy Hills Subdivision Phase 4 and 5. INGALSBE/BORCHERDING]

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CALL]. >> CALL THE ROLL.

[I7. Discussion and possible action to accept fiscal surety for the construction of roadway and drainage improvements in the amount of $2,855,411.19 for the Sunset Oaks, Section 4, Phase 3B, Final Subdivision (Bond # 6131050164). INGALSBE/BORCHERDING]

[J1. PLN-2208-PC; Call for a Public Hearing on October 10th, 2023, followed by discussion and possible action regarding Carol Oaks, Lot 6, Replat. SMITH/PACHECO]

>> SO MOVED. >> PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

[J2. PLN-2293-PC; Call for a Public Hearing on October 10th, 2023, followed by discussion and possible action regarding 272 AC Fitzhugh, Lots 18 & 28, Replat. SHELL/PACHECO]

>> CALL FOR PUBLIC HEARING ON OCTOBER 10TH, 2023.

>> PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. LET'S GO TO NUMBER 8 OUR PUBLIC

[K8. 1:00pm - Hold a final public hearing for the Fiscal Year 2024 Hays County Proposed Budget. BECERRA/DORSETT]

HEARING. >> HOLD A FINAL PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE FISCAL YEAR 2024 HAYS COUNTY PROPOSED BUDGET.

>> ALL RIGHT. I'M OPENING THE AGENDA ITEM.

THOSE WISHING TO SPEAK OR AGAINST IT PLEASE APPROACH THE

PODIUM. >> I HOPE YOU UNDERSTAND I'M PLAYING WITH YOU BECAUSE YOU'RE SUCH A WONDERFUL SPIRITED

REGULAR. >> TRUE.

I'M ABOUT TO FALL ASLEEP. >> NO, ALL I WANT TO SAY IS WHAT

I SAID DURING PUBLIC HEARING. >> AND THAT YOU LOVE US.

>> RIGHT AND THAT TOO. SPENDING $25,000 FOR WHAT WE SAW THIS PRESENTATION EARLIER. I MEAN IT WAS WONDERFUL.

GREAT. I HOPE THEY CAN GET THE MONEY TO DO WHAT THEY WANT TO DO. THE ONLY THING IS IT'S NOT THE COUNTY'S RESPONSIBILITY. WE HAVE GOT TO SAVE MONEY SOMEWHERE. WE HAVE GOT OVER HALF A BILLION DOLLARS IN DEBT. I JUST CAN'T SEE IT.

IT'S BASED ON A FLAWED MODEL BECAUSE WHAT HAPPENS IS THESE.

>> THEY WILL VOTE TO RAISE THEIR SALARIES CONTINUOUSLY AND IT'S JUST A FLAWED MODEL. YOU SHOULDN'T USE THAT MODEL.

- >>> IT IS A FLAWED MODEL. WE SHOULD NOT USE THAT MODEL. THAT IS WHAT I HAD TO SAY. I DID NOT GET A CHANCE TO READ OVER THE BUDGET.

>> I WILL TELL YOU A LITTLE DETAIL THAT WAS IN THE PAPER. I WANT TO THANK VICKI WILL PUT IT TOGETHER. THE LEFT AND THE COUR GOT A RAISE WAS WHAT YEAR? EIGH YEARS AGO. NEAR AT YOUR FOR TWO YEARS WITH THE COURT HAS NOT GOTTEN A RAISE. AS PART OF THE OVERALL PROCESS. COST OF LIVING I MEAN, I COULD GO ON AND ON AN YOU GET THE IDEA. WE ARE WITH YOU.

>> THE COST OF LIVING FOR ME SO I AND THAT IS WHY COME HERE.

>> DOES ANYONE WANT TO SPEAK FO OR AGAINST THIS AGENDA ITEM??

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OUR ASSISTANT, CLERK? >> I WOULD LIKE TO THANK THE COUNTY COURT FOR SOCIAL COMMUNITY SERVICE THEY ARE GIVING US UNTIL THOUSAND DOLLAR FOR THE KYLE AREA SENIOR ZONE.

THERE ARE A LOT OF OTHER PRIORITIES AND PEOPLE AWAITING COURT DATES AND PEOPLE SUFFERIN FROM MENTAL ILLNESS. SENIORS AR ABOUT 35% OF OUR POPULATION. THERE ARE NOT A LOT OF RESOURCE THAT GO TO US. THANK YOU. WE AR STILL STRUGGLING WITH OUR-FUNDS BECAUSE THE CITY HAS WITHDRAWN THEIR OFFER TO USE LAND TO BUIL A BUILDING. WE ARE GOING TOMORROW ON A FIELD TRIP TO MARBLE FALLS TO LOOK AT ANOTHER CORPORATION THAT MAY COME IN AN SERVE THE NEED FOR A COMMUNITY CENTER. WISH US LUCK AND WE WIL

SEE YOU TOMORROW. >> WHAT IS YOUR NAME?

>> ELLEM IRMIS. I AM THE COMMUNICATIONS WERE NADER AND GRANT WRITER FOR THE KYLE AREA SENIOR ZONE.

>> THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE IN TH GENERAL PUBLIC HEARING CAPACITY TO SPEAK? WE WILL HAVE OUR CONVERSATION, BUT I WANTED TO CLOSE THE PODIUM. IT IS NOT US TO DISCUSS. VICKI, AS YOU WERE

WITH THE CONVERSATION. >> TO BE CLOSED IT?

>> YES. >> WE HAD EMAILED QUESTIONS.

>> THEY WILL BE PUT IN RECORD. >> HE RADIOED TO THE LIST? YOU

READY TO GET GOING. >> PAGE 1 OF THE HANDOUT I PROVIDED THIS MORNING. WHEN THE COURT VOTED ON A PROPOSED BUDGE AUGUST 22ND, THERE WAS ABOUT OF $72,000 -- $502,000 AND WE LEFT IT IN TACK TO PROVIDE ADDITIONA FUNDING FOR THINGS, WITH THE BUDGET WORKSHOP TODAY, AS WELL AS OPERATING BUDGETS FOR JP 22 OFFICE WAS APPOINTED THIS MORNING. AND A PURCHASING OFFIC SCHEDULED TO MEET IN THE NEXT WEEK.

>> I LOVE IT. >> WITH THAT WE STARTED WITH $502,000.71. WE HAD A PRESENTATION THIS MORNING REQUESTING $50,000 AND I ADDED THAT IN. IF YOU WANT TO GO AHEA AND TAKE IT OUT AND MOVE IT OVE TO YOUR ALLOCATION. WE WILL REMOVE THAT REQUEST. PRECINCT WHEN I HAVE BEEN FULLY. IS THAT

CORRECT? YES. >> ON AUGUST 22ND -SUBJECT TO

PRESSURE. >> THAT IS IT VICKI. TIME IS UP DISCUSSED MOVING THE DISCRETIONARY FUNDING WE HAD SE ASIDE FOR SOCIAL SERVICE AGENCIES TO HELP FUND THESE INTERNAL OFFICE AND OPERATING BUDGETS WE NEED TO DO. I AM REFLECTING THAT AND CREDIT BACK TO GENERAL FUND. WE DISCUSSED THE PLACEMENT IN THE NEW PLAN. WE WILL BE BRINGING EMMA ITEM - EMMA ITEM TWO TALK ABOUT THE IMMIGRATION OF THAT. -- AN ITEM TO TALK ABOUT THE ADMINISTRATIO OF THAT. HOW TO ADMINISTER THE MARITAL FUNDS. WE ARE CLEAR THA EVERYONE WILL BE PLACED-

>> BLESS YOU. >> BEAT ON -- BASED ON DATE AND POSITION. BASED ON THE FUNDS I WILL ALLOCATE TO THE PERMITS FO THEIR USE AND THEY WILL NEED TO LINE OUT WITH THE USE IS. WE WILL MOST LIKELY BRING AN ITEM BACK IN OCTOBER TO MAKE SURE WE ARE COMMUNICATING THAT PROPERLY TO DEPARTMENTS. WHAT THE BOARD

INTENT IS FOR THE FUNDS. >> TO BE TREATED LIKE MERIT AND

DISCRETION. >> WE NEED TO BASE IT ON A SALARY WEIGHT. SUCH A VIEW OF THE DETAILS YOU NEED.

>> ALSO CELERY IMMIGRATION POLICIES. IT WILL IMPLEMENT THE STEP PLAN. OUR PAY PLAN WILL CHANGE OCTOBER 1ST. HOW WE

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>> TRANSLATOR: PROMOTIONS AND EMOTIONS -- THE EMOTIONS ANCILLARY TRANSACTION REQUESTS. BRING IT TO THE COMPENSATION COMMITTEE FOR REVIEW AND COME BACK FIRST SESSION IN OCTOBER.

>> ADMINISTRATIVE LOOSE ENDS. PERFECT. COMMISSIONERS, ARE YOU UP TO SPEED ON THE PART? OKAY, GOOD.

>> ON PAGE 32, I CREATED AN OPERATING BUDGET FOR THE J 22 OFFICE BASED ON WHAT WE PRIVATELY DISCUSSED IN BUDGET WORKSHOP. JUSTICE COURT DEMONSTRATOR EFFECTIVE OCTOBER 1ST. I BELIEVE THERE IS A SPACE THAT TAMMY AND COMMISSIONER-HAV WORKED ON. I BUILT IN RENT FOR THAT SPACE EFFECTIVE JANUARY. I THINK THE IS BUILDOUT THAT NEED TO HAPPEN BEFORE IT CAN BE

FUNCTIONAL. >> IS IT OKAY TO SET THE PLACE OR NOT YET? RATHER NOT? THAT IS OKAY. MY ONLY QUESTION IN MY REASON FOR ASKING WAS MORE FOR UNDERSTANDING WHAT THE VISION IS. IS YOUR PLAN TO HAVE JUST J IN THERE? JUST THE BENCH? MIKE JUDGE CARRIE HAD. I GUESS, HOW MUCH OF A BUILD I REALLY CANNOT -- BUILD OUT ARE WE LOOKING AT?

>> THERE WILL NOT BE A COURT. JUDGE SMITH AND THE JUSTICE WILL SHARE THE CURRENT SPACE FO NOW.

>> JUDGE, WHEN I TELL YOU IS NOTHING AVAILABLE- SCHOOLS DO. I AM JUST KIDDING. JUST DO NOT KNOW- NOT TRY TO POKE. I AM NOT SURE HOW IT WILL HELP THE GOAL OF THIS ARTICLE

OVER TO THE ORIGINAL OFFICE. >> IT WILL TAKE SOME OF THE WOR LOAD OFF OF JUDGE SMITH TO BEGI WITH. THERE IS NOT A FUTURE

GOAL. >> BINGO. I HEARD ENOUGH.

>> ADDING 258,707 DOLLARS TO TH GENERAL FUND. WE ARE UTILIZING THE GP TECHNOLOGY FUND FOR BOTH POSITIONS. I HAVE ALSO MADE A NOTE ON OPERATING BUDGET THAT W WILL POTENTIALLY CONSIDER A BAILIFF AND CONSTABLE AT A LATE DATE WHEN THEY DO HAVE A COURT.

WE HAVE THE COURTHOUSE AND SECURED FUNDS.

>> FOR THE VIEWING PUBLIC WE JUST APPOINTED YOU ARE TO THIS POSITION JR 22. HE WILL BE OPERATING IN THE SAME FOOTPRINT AND IN THE SAME OFFICE, THE OFFICE, THE COURTROOM, AS JUDGE SMITH. IT IS ASSUMED THAT THERE WILL BE A SHARING OF THE LOAD AND ALL OF THE OTHER STUFF LIKE DEPUTIES ET CETERA WILL CONTINU TO BE IN PLACE AND THERE ARE ADDITIONAL NEEDS FOR THAT PART.

AND THAT IS WHAT THE CONSTABLE SAID.

>> RIGHT. ON PAGE 33 THERE IS A OPERATIONAL BUDGET FOR THE CREATION OF THE PURCHASING DEPARTMENT. THAT POSITION IS BEING REVIEWED FOR POTENTIAL INTERVIEWS FOR THE NEXT THREE WEEKS. I DID PLACE A SALARY AT THE MIDPOINT FOR THAT. FOR THE PURCHASING AGENT. NOT KNOWING WHAT THAT CELERY WILL BE. THE POSITIONS CURRENTLY IN AUDITOR' OFFICE OVER TO THE PURCHASING DEPARTMENT. THERE IS A PURCHASING MANAGER PURCHASING SPECIALIST AND THOSE THAT TRANSITION OVER TO CONTRACTING

MANAGER AT SPECIALIST. >> WE WILL WATCH IT PROCUREMENT

THINK GOD AND GOOD JOB. >> WE WERE REDUCING THE AUDITOR OFFICE BUDGET BY 85 561. THE NE IS 115 THROUGH 16TH.

>> SHE HAS TOO MUCH MONEY. DID YOU SEE HER BASKET?

THAT IS GREAT. >> ON PAGE 34 AND 35 THE

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COMPENSATION COMMITTEE RECOMMENDATIONS FOR PROMOTIONS WERE DISCUSSED EARLIER. THE ASSISTANT DIRECTOR FOR THE ELECTED OFFICIALS SALARY INCREASES ARE STILL IN.

>> I SUPPORT REMOVING THAT. IT IS TAKING CARE OF IN MY OPINION

>> THERE IS THREE. PULL IT. AND THEN?

>> WE ARE LEAVING IN COMPENSATION COMMITTEE

REGULATIONS FOR MOTION? >> YES.

>> THE REQUESTED PERSONNEL CHANGES, THOSE WERE LISTED ON PAGE 37. CHANGING START DATES FOR SOME OF THE POSITIONS ALREADY APPROVED IN THE BUDGET FOR THE AUDITOR'S OFFICE AND SERVICES AND COUNTY CLERK. THOS POSITIONS AND THE AUDITORS OFFICE IS A SAVINGS TO THE COUNTY. HUMAN RESOURCES WAS APPROVED ALREADY. FOR COMMUNICATIONS MANAGER AND CONTINUED WEBSITE DESIGN. WE NEED TO BUDGET THOSE FUNDS. THE NET EFFECT TO THE GENERAL FUND IS 11,692. ADDITIONALLY THE COUNTY CLERK BACK IN MAY, I BELIEVE, APPROVED INTERNAL PROGRAM. SHE HAD TWO INDIVIDUAL HERE AND THEY COMPLETED THEIR INTERNSHIP AND THEY WANTED TO BRING IN ADDITIONAL INTERNS THROUGH THAT PROGRAM. WE NEEDED TO BUDGET ADDITIONAL FUNDS FOR THAT, WHICH IS RECORDS MANAGEMENT AND ARCHIVE FUND.

THERE IS NO COST TO THE GENERAL FUND FOR THAT. THERE ARE THREE POSITIONS, NEW POSITIONS BEING REQUESTED UTILIZING THE-FUNDS.

THE DEPUTY CONSTABLE IN PRECINC 3. DEPUTY CONSUL IN PRECINCT FIVE AND COMMUNITY OUTREACH SPECIALIST AND COMMISSIONER OF

PRECINCT FOR. >> THE SPECIALIST- WHATEVER WE DISCUSSED WHEN YOU REMEMBER BAC IN JANUARY WE TALKED ABOUT EXPANSION OFFICE IN THE COUNTY JUDGE. LAST YEAR IN MY OFFICE I DID 87 A AND PUBLIC MEETINGS. THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS GIVE THE LATEST POPULATION GROWTH NUMBERS MY PRECINCT IS GOING FASTER THAN ANY OTHER PRECINCT IN THE COUNTY. HONESTLY, I AM HAVING A HARD TIME KEEPING UP WITH ENSURING OUR CONSTITUENTS ARE UNDERSTANDING WHAT TO DO WITH THE COUNTY OR MENTORING TO DO OUTREACH. I LOOKED AT THIS POSITION LAST YEAR. OTHER COMMISSIONERS HAVE LOOKED AT TH SAME TYPE OF POSITION THIS YEAR AT THAT TIME, IF YOU REMEMBER, YOU SAID YOU WOULD SUPPORT A POSITION SUCH AS THIS. I APPRECIATE THAT. I REALLY DO FEEL LIKE TO GET THE BEST SERVICE FOR OUR CONSTITUENTS NEED TO HAVE ADDITIONAL HELP IN MY OFFICE. I HAVE BEEN ADAMANT NOT TO ASK FOR ANYTHING FOR THE FIVE YEARS I HAVE BEEN HERE BECAUSE HONESTLY, I FELT I COUL MAINTAIN THE LOAD BY MYSELF. I FEEL LIKE I CAN STILL DO THAT I YOU WANT ENHANCED HELP FROM A CONSTITUENCY. THAT IS WHAT I FEEL LIKE IT WOULD BE NEEDED. I AM NOT ASKING THE COMMISSIONER COURT OR COUNTY TO COME UP WITH THE FUNDS FROM ANYWHERE ELSE OTHER THAN ALLOCATION FROM OUR PILL -- ARPO, LOCATED IN PRECINCT FOR IT WE CAN DO IT THROUGH THE RELOCATED FUNDS IF DESIGNATED AT SUCH. IT WOULD SHOULDERED THE BURDEN FOR THE FIRST YEAR AND FOR THE INCREMEN

MAYBE SOONER THAN LATER, BUT NO DURING MY TIME. I UNDERSTAND GROWTH AND YES, IT IS EXTENSIE. HOWEVER, I THINK IT IS OUR JOB.

WE MAKE DO WITH WHAT WE HAVE. D THEY GET WOULD BE CHALLENGING.

THIS IS SOMETHING THAT MAYBE COULD BE CONSIDERED IF THE COUR SUPPORTS US NOW OR SUPPORT IT I THE FUTURE. IF YOU HAVE A POSITION THAT WOULD LIKELY BE A NONEXEMPT POSITION. AND IF THE

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JOB DUTIES INCLUDE GOING TO MEETINGS AFTER HOURS ET CETERA, YOU COULD HAVE A CHALLENGE IN MENSTRUATION AS WELL JUST FROM ACCUMULATING ISSUE. AND THINGS LIKE THAT. I THINK IT IS A TECHNICAL CONCERN. ESPECIALLY I THOSE ARE SOME OF THE JOB DUTIE INVOLVED OR MAY EXTENSIVELY INVOLVE AFTER OUR ATTENDANCE TO MEETINGS. IS NONEXEMPT POSITION AND WHEN YOU GET INTO ISSUES THERE. PHILOSOPHICALLY I DO NOT BELIEVE IT IS TIME TO STOP COMMISSIONER PRECINCTS. I WHEN THE TIME COMES TO BE DONE EQUITABLY. I DO NOT THINK YOU WOULD WANT TO SIT IN PRECINCT 1 FOR INSTANCE SAYING THEY ARE BEING SERVED DIFFERENTLY FOR PERSON AND PRECINCT 3 FROM THE STAFFING STANDPOINT. WHENEVER THE TIME COMES, BUT I AM NOT READY TO SUPPORT NOW.

>> FOR SOME OF THE SAME REASONS THAT THE COMMISSIONER MENTIONED I AM NOT SUPPORTIVE EITHER AT THIS POINT. I BELIEVE IT IS OUR JOB TO GO. IF THERE IS A JOINT MEETING AND YOU SENT A REPRESENTATIVE I THINK THE RESIDENTS WILL BE UPSET THE COMMISSIONER IS NOT THERE AND INVOLVED. I THINK WE ARE EXPECTED TO BE AT THOSE THINGS. I BELIEVE IS PART OF OUR JOB.

ARE NOT SUPPORTED EITHER. >> I WILL SAY YES TO HIS REQUEST. BECAUSE I DID NOT -- I DID CONSIDER THIS FOR MYSELF AN I UNDERSTAND THE REASONS HE SUGGESTED. WE ARE GROWING COUNT IN COUNTY GOVERNMENT AND SOMETIMES THAT SUPPORT IS BENEFICIAL. I AM A YES FOR THE COMMISSIONER REQUEST.

>> YOU DID THAT AND YOU NEVER DONE THAT TO ME BEFORE. I DID NOT WANT TO ASK THE COURT FOR ANYTHING TO THE DETRIMENT OF AN OTHER COMMISSIONER AND I WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT. I SINCERELY WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT. IF THIS POSITION-AND THIS IS A QUEST FO

HR. IF THIS POSITION NEEDS- >> IT IS NOT IN HR.

SAY. ACCELERATE EXEMPT POSITION -- A SALARIED, EXEMPT POSITION.

I DO NOT WANT TO CAUSE ISSUES FOR THE COURT. UNDERSTAND AND ALLOCATION EXISTING TO ENSURE THAT I CAN GET ADDITIONAL ASSISTANCE IN THE OFFICE. I ALS DON'T WANT WITH THE COURT AT TH DETRIMENT. CAN ADDRESS THAT ISSUE I WOULD LIKE TO DO THAT.

>> FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND YOU WOULD USE A POSITION FOR AND TH LEVEL OF RESPONSE ABILITIES WOULD BE REPRESENTATIVE OF THE PRECINCT AND LIAISON WITH THE CITIZENS. PROVIDING INFORMATION AND RESOURCES. AT THAT BEAR MINIMUM THAT LIKELY WOULD NOT MEET FAIR LABOR STANDARDS ACT TEST FOR EXEMPTION. WE WOULD NEED TO REVIEW THE JOBS IN DEPT TO MAKE THE FINAL DETERMINATION TO CLASSIFY THE POSITION AS EXEMPT FROM OVERTIME TO ADDRESS WORK HOURS OR EXTRA HOURS WORKING, IT IS NOT APPROPRIATE.

WE WOULD WANT TO LOOK AT THE SPECIFIC DUTIES FIRST. WITH THA LIMITED KNOWLEDGE I WOULD INITIALLY SAY NO. NONEXEMPT POSITION AND IT WOULD ACCRUE OVER TIME. WORK OUR FLEX ABILIT IS POSSIBLY AN OPTION. YOU DO NOT WORK IN:00 UNTIL 5:00 AND THERE ARE OPPORTUNITIES TO WORK A MYRIAD OF HOURS. IT WOULD BE

AT YOUR DESIGNATION. >> THAT WAS A QUESTION I WAS ABOUT TO ASK. THE OTHER THING, AND THERE ARE VERY GOOD POINTS THAT HAVE BEEN BROUGHT UP TO ME ABOUT THIS. I WANT TO CLARIFY THEM AS WELL. WE HAVE EMPLOYEES THAT I OFTEN BRING. FOR EXAMPLE IF THERE IS A SPECIFIC NEED- USED IN TWO WAYS AS AN EXAMPLE.

WE HAD ATTENDANCE-FOR EXAMPLE, MAY HAVE A TOURIST BOARD MEETIN AT THE SAME TIME WITH THE COMMITTEE MEET FOR COMMUNITY IN

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MY AREA. I FEEL VERY COMFORTABL WITH A REPRESENTATIVE FROM THE TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT ATTENDING AN EVENT LIKE THAT.

WHEN IT IS A MORE COMMUNITY-WID FUNCTION AND I USED A CHEWY MEETING AS AN EXAMPLE. ON THIS SUNDAY, THE ONE I AM GOING TO, REALLY HAVE A PRE-LIST OF QUESTIONS. IF I ASK FOR INDIVIDUALS FROM OUR DEPARTMENT TO ATTEND SUCH AN EVENT, I HAD TO HAVE PEOPLE FROM SIX AREAS THERE. AT THE END OF THE DAY, I DO NOT NECESSARILY DEAL COMFORTABLE ASKING THEM TO GO D THOSE TYPES OF EVENTS EVEN THOUGH IT FALLS IN THEIR PURVIEW. SPECIFICALLY BECAUSE THEY HAVE GOT TO DO THAT WE ARE PAYING THEM TO DO. IN THERE TO PERMIT DOES NOT PHYSICALLY FALL UNDER THAT JOB. I WILL GO WITH THE DECISION OF THE COURT AND I WILL ACCEPT IT. AND I WILL BE HAPPY WHEN WE WALK OUT THE DOOR

THAT IS WHERE I AM AT. >> PAUSE FOR EMPHASIS. WHAT DOE IT LOOK LIKE WHEN YOU USE-FUNDS FOR ONE YEAR PLAN TO SEE NOT ONLY HOW IT UNFOLDS AND WORKS INCREASE THE CONDITION FOR

EMPLOYMENT? >> THE EMPLOYEE WOULD NOT BE ELIGIBLE FOR BENEFITS, NOR WOUL THEY GET THOSE. A TEMPORARY POSITION TO END ON SEPTEMBER 30 2024.

>> COMMISSIONER, THAT WOULD BE GOOD START FOR YOU WHERE DOES NOT AFFECT THE BUDGET AND WORKS ON YOUR INTENT IS NOT EITHER/OR IT IS YES AND. THE BUDGETARY ITEM FOR HIS EFFORT AND FOR HIS PURPOSE . I THINK THAT THE MOST SATISFY THE VARYING INTERESTS AND IDEAS. HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOU THAT COMMISSIONER?

>> I AM FINE WITH THAT. ONE OTHER QUESTION. THE EXPIRATION

OF THOSE FUNDS. >> WE HAVE TO HAVE THE FUNDS COMMITTED BY DECEMBER 2024, BUT THEY DO NOT BE EXPENDED UNTIL DECEMBER 26. IT WILL CHANGE AND PATCH OF THAT REQUEST. I WILL REMOVE THE REQUIREMENTS. IS GOING TO ASK THE QUESTION. YOU HAVE THE THREE POINTS AND VOTES THAT YOU NEED. DO YOU FORESEE THIS PERSON TO BE 40 HOURS PER WEEK?

>> WITH THIS, IT WOULD GIVE ME THE FLEXIBILITY. I CAN DO PART-TIME AS WELL. IT WOULD USE UP THE ENTIRE BUDGET. IF THERE WAS A SITUATION TO GIVE ME THAT I WOULD DO THAT. I DO NOT SEE I TAKING 40 HOURS A WEEK. IF THAT IS THE CASE I WOULD MUCH RATHER HAVE A PART-TIME POSITION TO DO IT. I JUST WANT THE POSSIBILITY

TO ADDRESS IT. >> THE BUDGET IS FULL-TIME

OCTOBER 1ST. >> I AM STILL A NO AND I WOULD REQUEST WHEN THEY ARE HIRED IT WILL BE IN BOLD AND RED LETTERS AND POSSIBLE. THAT COMMISSIONER WILL LIKELY VOTE FOR YOUR POSITION TO NOT EXIST STARTING OCTOBER 1ST, IN 24. NOTHING PERSONAL AND NOTHING TO DO WITH YOU PERSONALLY. ARCHER I WILL LOVE THEM IF THE COURT SUPPORTS THIS. BUT, I WANT THAT TO BE VERY CLEAR AND NOT SOMETHING LIKE THAT FOR ARBITRARY REMOVAL OF A COUNTY EMPLOYEE. IN PHILOSOPHICALLY DO THAT.

>> IT IS TEMPORARY. >> THE FUNDS HAVE TO BE COMMITTED THROUGH THE END OF 2 FOR TO GET THE FUNDING STREAM ENDS UP BEING A PART-TIME EMPLOYEE, BECAUSE IT IS COMMITTED AND PART OF THE REVENUE REPLACEMENT IT COULD BE COMMITTED FOR THE DURATION OF THAT. THE POSITION EXPIRES IN DECEMBER 26 AND IT IS DONE. WE DO NOT ADDRESS IT AGAIN.

>> THAT IS RIGHT. IT IS A TEMPORARY JOB.

>> UNTIL THE END OF 2026. >> 2021?

>> COMMITMENT WOULD BE 2024 AND WE DON'T HAVE TO LOOK AT IT

AGAIN. >> YOU WANT TO FUND IT FOR TWO

YEARS THROUGH DECEMBER 2026? >> THAT IS WHAT I AM SAYING. WE COULD DO THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO ADDRESS IT BECAUSE I HAVE TO BE

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COMMITTED BY DECEMBER 24. >> I AM STILL A NO. YOU HAVE TO

ASK THOSE TWO MEMBERS. >> THIS IS GREAT.

>> YOU NEVER HAVE TO VOTE AGAINST IT AGAIN OR REMOVE A COUNTY EMPLOYEE. BUT IT IS WELL KNOW -- KNOWN THAT JOB IS DONE.

WITH A RED AND A GREEN PADDLE T GO THROUGH THESE LISTS. AND JUS RAISE THE PADDLE. IF I HAD A RE ONE IT WOULD STILL BE STICKING

UP RIGHT HERE. >> ONWARD.

>> DID Y'ALL DECIDE? >> ONE YEAR WITH THE CONTRACT LABOR APPROACH NO, TEMPORARY EMPLOYEE. KNOW 1099.

>> TEMPORARY UNTIL SEPTEMBER 30TH OF 2024.

>> AGAIN, MY QUESTION IS, WE HAVE TO MAKE THE COMMITMENTS PRIOR TO DECEMBER 24. IF I COMMIT THOSE FUNDS AT THIS POIN OR TO BE EXPENDED TO THE END OF THE PERIOD, WHICH IS DECEMBER 2 WE CAN ADOPT THAT. OR WE COULD ADOPT THAT HAD TO ADDRESS IT

AGAIN. >> WE COULD. MOST LIKELY WE WOULD STILL ADDRESS THAT POSITION UNLESS A PERSON COMES IN AND WORKS EXACTLY THE HOURS THEY ARE SCHEDULED TO WORK EVER WEEK. YEAR OVER YEAR. IT IS THE SAME THING WITH HER OTHER PROGRAMS THAT ARE INTERNAL WHIC IS WHAT I RECOMMENDED ADJUSTMENTS TO THE MAGISTRATE PRETRIAL AND MENTAL HEALTH.

THOSE THINGS CHANGE THE OPERATIONAL NEEDS. THE STAFFING

IS ALWAYS FULL. >> CAN YOU MANAGE THAT WITHOUT

MUCH TROUBLE? >> WE WILL JUST ADDRESS IT NEXT YEAR BEFORE WE ADOPT. NEXT YEAR WE HAVE ALL OF THE FUNDS COMMITTED BY DECEMBER 2024. WE ARE ALMOST TWO. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU SAW YOUR PACKET, THE SPREADSHEETS FOR THE ARPO COMMITMENTS . LESS THAN $2 MILLION IS FULLY COMMITTED OF

THE $44 MILLION. >> WHAT WAS THE DECISION? UNTIL

24? >> SEPTEMBER 24

>> JUST FOR A SECOND VICKI, IF YOU DO NOT MIND A SHORT PAUSE.

SOMEONE SHOWED UP AS I WAS DABBLING I WAS A LITTLE CONCISE I WANT TO GIVE HER A CHANCE TO SPEAK. YOU SET THE TIMER?

>> MOST OF YOU ALL KNOW ME AS DIDI ROGERS. I WORK FOR THE COUNTY CLERK FOR 28 YEARS. I JUST GOT A PROMOTION. FROM MY UNDERSTANDING AFTER TALKING TO MY CLERK, IF I WOULD NOT HAVE TAKEN THE POSITION I WOULD MAKE MORE THAN I MAKE NO WITH THE NE INCREASES. I WANT Y'ALL TO EXPLAIN TO ME HOW THIS IS GOING TO WORK WITH LONGEVITY. I FEEL LIKE I AM GETTING GIPPED BECAUS OF ALL THE YEARS I HAVE BEEN WITH THE COUNTY.

>> PRIVATELY SOUND QUESTION. MISS MILLER , WOULD YOU LIKE TO ADDRESS THE QUESTION. A QUALIFIED, MAGNIFICENTLY TRAINE PROFESSIONAL TO ANSWER THE QUESTION FOR YOU.

>> AS DIDI SAID SHE HAS RECENTL PROMOTED. AND, THAT PROMOTION-SHE WAS GIVEN A SALAR INCREASE BASED ON SALARY IMMIGRATION POLICY. EITHER 6% O INCREASE TO MINIMUM, I DO NOT REMEMBER WHICH ONE FOR HER. WIT THE CALCULATION OF PLACEMENT INSTEAD, HER SALARY TODAY IS HIGHER THAN THE STOP THAT SHE COUPLE OF YEARS THAT SHE HAS BEEN IN THE NEW POSITION. HER SALARY WILL REMAIN THE SAME USE DATE OF PROMOTION. SHE IS A GENUINE EXAMPLE OF SOMEBODY THA HAS WORKED AT THE COUNTY FOR 28 YEARS AND WAS RECENTLY PROMOTED BUT BECAUSE WE ARE GOING TO USE

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STATE PROMOTION THERE IS NOT AN INCREASE PLACING HER INTO THE

STEP. >> THAT IS EXAMPLE I WAS USING DURING OUR CONVERSATION AND THA IS WHY I WANTED YOU TO ALSO-SEEING YOUR EXAMPLE. IT WA CONVEYED TO ME PERFECTLY CLEAR BY DR.-I DID NOT SAY WHERE IT I GOING FROM AND WHAT DEPARTMENT.

NOW IT IS ALL OUT. I AM UNDER THE IMPRESSION THAT THIS MERIT PIECE, SHE WILL ALLOCATE TO PUT YOU IN A DIFFERENT PLACE THAN

WHERE YOU ARE TODAY. >> THAT MAY BE SOMETHING THAT MS. ROGERS IS NOT FAMILIAR WITH THERE WILL BE ADDITIONAL FUNDIN LEFT OVER M DR. CARDENAS WILL B GIVEN A POOL OF MERIT TO DISTRIBUTE TO EMPLOYEES THAT WILL BE HER DECISION TO STRIP.

THERE ARE OTHER EMPLOYEES IN TH COUNTY THAT WILL NOT RECEIVE SALARY INCREASES WITH THE STEP PLAN WITH EITHER OPTION. SOME O THOSE EMPLOYEES HAVE BEEN RECENTLY PROMOTED .

>> THAT IS EXACTLY WHY WHEN I TALK COMMISSIONER SHALL TALK ABOUT THE PIECE AND ARTICULATE IN AN UNFOLDING, ALWAYS OF THE BELIEF THAT SMALLER GOVERNMENT CLOSER TO THE PEOPLE IS BETTER.

I DON'T CARE WHAT PARTY OWNS IT OR CLAIMS IT. THAT IS MY BELIEF WHEN YOU ARE WITH THE PEOPLE SEEN THEM EYEBALL TO EYEBALL YO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS THEIR ACHES. I BELIEVED OUR PROCESS THROUGH STEP AND SEND I WAS GOING TO BE A LITTLE MORE BROAD BY CREATING PROMOTION DAT WITH A. FOR EACH DEPARTMENT HEA MIKE AND MIKE OFFICIAL, WAS GOING TO GENERATE MORE DETAIL.

BECAUSE WE HAVE SO MANY VARIABLES COUNTYWIDE, IT IS HAR FOR US TO UNDERSTAND WHICH IS ALL-ENCOMPASSING AND MUST -- MOST PERFECT. I WAS LEANING TOWARD TAXABILITY -- FLEXIBILIT FOR THE PERSON RUNNING THE DEPARTMENT. INSTEAD OF DOING IT

COUNTYWIDE >> HOW MUCH MONEY WILL WE ACTUALLY GET TO ALLOCATE? IT SOUNDS MINUSCULE.

>> I THINK I TRIED TO EXPLAIN THIS, I DON'T KNOW HOW MAY TIMES. I WANT TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS THIS BECAUSE HONESTLY THEY DO NOT. W HAVE AN AMOUNT TO SET EVERYONE AT THEIR HIRE DATE IN THE STEP PLAN AS OF THE VERY FIRST. IS THAT CORRECT STATEMENT AS OF TH VERY FIRST? THE LESSER AMOUNT I TO PLACE EVERYONE AT THE PROMOTION DATE AS OF OCTOBER 1S AND PUT THEM IN A MAGICAL STEP PROGRAM THAT WILL SOLVE EVERYBODY A PROCESS PROBLEM. THEN, WE WILL TAKE THE DIFFERENCE IN THE MONEY AND WE WILL SAY WE ARE ALLOCATING THAT TO THE DEPARTMENT AND YOU WILL HAVE SOMETHING TO THEN TRY TO

FIX SOME OF THE ISSUES WITH. >> I HEARD THAT, BUT IT IS NOT

VERY MUCH. >> IT IS THE SAME AMOUNT.

>> HOLD ON GUYS. >> MY ISSUE IS I WAS IN MY POSITION PREVIOUSLY FOR A GOOD 25 YEARS. I WILL BE PRETTY HIGH ON THE STEP PLAN. NOW, I AM AT THE BOTTOM OF THE STEP PLAN. I AM NOT GETTING IT. I WOULD BE MAKING MORE MONEY IF I DID NOT

GET THE PROMOTION. >> YOU WOULD NOT. YOU WOULD BE

MAKING THE SAME >> WHAT GOOD WAS MY PROMOTION I THERE IS NO COMPENSATION FOR IT

>> I HEAR YOU LOUD AND CLEAR. >> THAT IS WHAT BOTHERS ME WHY NOT STAY IN THAT POSITION INSTEAD OF A PROMOTION?

>> I HEAR YOU LOUD AND CLEAR 100%. VICKI, CAN YOU GIVE US AN EXAMPLE OF THE COUNTY CLERK OFFICE WHAT THAT AMOUNT WILL BE BUDGETED FOR THE PERMIT TO ADDRESS?

>> NOT RIGHT NOW. I NEED TO CALCULATE THE BALANCE OF THE FUNDS THAT WE HAVE BASED ON EVERY DEPARTMENT'S BUDGETED POSITIONS. I COULD HAVE IT MAYBE LATER TODAY OR THIS WEEK.

BY DELAYING EVERYTHING UNTIL FEBRUARY 1ST . IF THAT IS WHAT THE COURT WANTS TO CONSIDER. DELETE THE SETTING OF THE STEP

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TO PROMOTION DATE AS OF FEBRUAR 1ST . THE DIFFERENCE IN THE FUNDS WILL BE THE ACTUAL HIRE DATE DIFFERENCE.

>> I LIKE THAT IDEA. >> THE MONEY WILL BE THERE TO BRING HER UP-I DON'T USE A SPECIFIC PERSON.

>> RIGHT. THERE ARE OTHER PEOPL IN OTHER DEPARTMENTS THAT ARE AFFECTED SIMILARLY THAT WERE DOING THE SAME OR SIMILAR JOBS THAT WERE PROMOTED TWO OR THREE GREAT AND THEY DO NOT MOVE. I A SAYING IN GENERAL. WE CANNOT ADOPT A PLAN BASED ON ONE, TWO, THREE OR 10 PEOPLE. UNFORTUNATELY. THAT IS WHY HAVING THE FUNDS FOR THE DEPARTMENT HEAD OR ELECTED OFFICIAL TO DISTRIBUTE- YOU WOULD HOPE THAT THEY WOULD TAKE THAT MONEY AND APPLY IT TO THOS POSITIONS. IT SOUNDS LIKE THE DIRECTION WOULD BE DEPARTMENT HEAD OR ELECTED OFFICIAL

DISCRETION. >> IF THE COURT WAS THAT TO HAPPEN IT WOULD BE TO SAY AS OF FEBRUARY 1ST EVERYBODY GETS TH DIFFERENCE WITH THE MERIT POOL PER DEPARTMENT IF THAT IS THE

INTENT. >> THAT IS WHAT THE HOPE IS.

BECAUSE WE KNEW EXACTLY WHAT WA GOING ON. AND DR.-EVERY STEP O THE WAY DID A GOOD JOB EXPLAINING IT. SITTING HERE IS YOUR COUNTY JUDGE HEAR IT LOUD AND CLEAR. I EVEN USED YOU AS A EXAMPLE IS THE THOUGHT PROCESS. THE FIRST AND MOST IMPORTANT THING IN MY MIND IS FOR YOU TO KNOW CRYSTAL CLEAR THAT WE SEE YOU. WE SEE YOU 100% AND WE ARE TRYING TO ADDRESS IT MOST COMPLETELY AND WITH THE MOST POSSIBILITY FOR DR.-TO ADDRESS IT IN A WAY THAT IS MOST EQUITABLE.

>> JUDGE, THE OTHER POSSIBILITY IT GIVES AS IF THE DEPARTMENT HEAD OR ELECTED OFFICIAL DOES NOT WANT TO MOVE THAT PERSON UP THAT HIGH, HE OR SHE HAS THE POSSIBILITY NOT TO. IT IS UP TO THEM. WOULD HOPE THEY WOULD ADDRESS THESE ISSUES THAT ARE IMPORTANT TO THEM IN THE SITUATION THAT WE JUST HEARD.

>> WE WILL KNOW WHAT THE NUMBER ARE FOR THE COUNTY CLERK, FOR EXAMPLE, AS TO HER EQUALIZING MONEY, IF YOU WILL. WE WILL KNO WHAT THE TOTAL IS EXACTLY SO THAT SHE CAN HAVE THEM MAKE AMOUNT TO CONVEY INFORMATION WITH. IN THE MEANTIME, WE DO NO HAVE THE, BUT THERE IS A PLAN T ADDRESS THE BECAUSE YOU DO NOT

FALL THROUGH THE CRACKS. >> I MAKING SURE THE COURT UNDERSTANDS THAT THEY WANT THE AMOUNT OF MONEY TO BE EQUAL TO TAKE EVERY SINGLE PERSON TO THEIR HIRE DATE AT THE DISCRETION OF THEIR BOSS BEFORE TODAY, YOU WANT TO MAKE SURE AN TELL VICKI THAT IS THE PLAN. IF NOT, ON OCTOBER 1ST WE WILL IMPLEMENT A PROMOTION DATE STEP IN THE MAXIMUM AMOUNT OF FUNDS WILL NOT BE THERE ON FEBRUARY 1ST IF THAT IS THE INTENT OF TH COURT . WANT TO MAKE SURE IT IS CLEAR. THEN, YOU ARE IMPLEMENTING THE MONEY AS OF FEBRUARY 1ST , ANNUALIZED FOR HIRE DATE OF LIMITATION EXCEPT YOUR PLACING ANYBODY AT PROMOTION DATE AND ALLOWING THE DEPARTMENT HAD TO MAKE THE DISCRETION OF THE FUNDS HOWEVER THEY SEE FIT DEPARTMENT. THEY CAN APPLY THE HIRE DATE TECHNICALLY AS OF FEBRUARY 1ST AND BE DONE WITH IT AND THE FUNDS WILL BE THERE. THE DRUG UNTIL THE VERY FIRST. NO OCTOBE 1ST IMPLEMENTATION. SETTING A PROMOTION AND LETTING THE DEPARTMENT HEAD TAKE CARE OF THEIR HIRE DATE WITH THE EMPLOYEES. THAT IS THE OPTION.

>> I AM UNDER THE IMPRESSION THAT IS WHAT WE ARE DOING. RIGH

VICKI? >> YES, OCTOBER 1ST POSITION DATE. THE FUNDING AVAILABLE TO DEPARTMENTS TO EQUALIZE-

>> WHATEVER DISCREPANCIES WILL INEVITABLY BE WITH 1200 PEOPLE

WORKING HERE. >> YES.

>> THAT IS WHAT IS SET IN MOTIO TO ADDRESS THIS VERY THING. YOU ARE HONESTLY-AND I AM NOT SAYIN THIS BECAUSE IT WAS IN THE AUDIENCE HERE. YOU ARE PART OF WHY WE LABOR AND TOIL OVER THIS BECAUSE OF THE VERY FACT OF YOU EXISTENCE IN THIS COUNTY.

BECAUSE OF THE TIME, DEDICATION COMMITMENT AND CONSERVATION. IS

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FOR THAT REASON THAT WE ARE HAVING AND HAULING AND TOILING AND SPENDING HOURS IN THE COMPENSATION COMMITTEE MEETINGS WE SPENT A LOT OF TIME TRYING T CAPTURE EVERYTHING POSSIBLE TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU DO NOT GET LEFT BEHIND. I WILL TELL YOU WHAT, YOU WILL NOT GET LEFT BEHIND.

>> I WANT TO CLARIFY. MY EXPERIENCES WE MAKE DECISIONS O THE LAST DAY OF THE BUDGET IN THE FIRST MEETING IN OCTOBER WE TRY TO FIGURE OUT WHAT WE DID. FROM THE COURT PREVIOUS DISCUSSION IT WAS OCTOBER 1ST PLACEMENT OF THE PROMOTION DATE THE REMAINING FUNDS, AS BUDGETE WITHIN ALLOCATED FOR FEBRUARY 1ST IMPROVISATION -- IMPLEMENTATION. IF THE COURT'S WISH IS THAT IF THE PERMIT HAD WANTED TO ADOPT THE HIRE DATE PLACEMENT WE WILL DELETE EVERYTHING UNTIL FEBRUARY 1ST AND THERE -- WE WOULD PICK A DATE FOR THE PROMOTION DATES.

WOULD HAVE TO SET IT. IT COULD BE OCTOBER 1ST PROMOTION DATE.

YOU NOT GET PLACED INTO THE NEW PLAN UNTIL FEBRUARY 1ST . AND THEN YOUR DEPARTMENT HEAD WOULD HAVE THE DELTA OF PROMOTION DAT IMPLEMENTATION AS OF FEBRUARY 1ST VERSUS HIRE DATE IMPLEMENTATION AS OF SIX TO APPLY ACROSS THE DEPARTMENT.

THEORETICALLY THE DEPARTMENT COULD ADOPT THE HIRE DATE PLAN AS OF FEBRUARY 1ST IF THAT WAS DONE . DOES THAT MAKE SENSE?

>> TO THE CLERK'S POINT, THE DOLLARS WOULD BE THE EXACT SAME

AT THAT POINT. >> RIGHT.

>> I CAN FOR MY DEPARTMENT SAY HIRE ME ON FEBRUARY 1ST ?

>> FOR THAT HAPPENED NOTHING CA HAPPEN UNTIL FEBRUARY 1ST .

>> I COULD DO THAT. >> THEY WILL GET PAID AS OF TODAY BUT THEY WOULD NOT GET AN INCREASE OR PLACED INTO THE NEW PLAN UNTIL FEBRUARY 1ST . THE NEW PLAN WOULD BE IMPLEMENTED WITH EVERYONE AT THE PROMOTION DATE. EVERYONE WOULD GET SET AT THE PROMOTION DATE. THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THAT AND PLACING THEM AT THE HIRE DATE WOULD BE A MERIT POOL PER DEPARTMENT BASED ON CANCELLATIONS OF THE DEPARTMENT THEORETICALLY, EVERY DEFERMENT COULD IMPLEMENTED THE HIRE DATE IF THAT IS WHAT THEY WANT TO DO

>> THE BALANCE WILL BE GIVEN TO DEPARTMENT HEADS TO SPREAD OUT AND IT WILL BE THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE HIRE DATE AND PROMOTION DATE. THAT, I DO NOT UNDERSTAND.

>> ZERO DISCRETION. MULTIPLE DEPARTMENTS WITH NO DISCUSSION WHATSOEVER. THE PROMOTION DATE AND HARD IT'S.

>> I THOUGHT THE BALANCE WAS SOMETHING ELSE.

>> IF THAT IS WHAT THE COURT WISHES TO DO. FULLY ALERT TO BE IMPLEMENTED AND WE CANNOT ADOPT A PLAN ON OCTOBER 1ST. THE EXTR FEW MONTHS WOULD TAKE AWAY FROM WHAT IS AVAILABLE FEBRUARY 1ST AND THE AND UTILIZATION OF THE FUNDS.

>> WE ADOPT IT AND IT WILL BE EFFECTIVE FEBRUARY 1ST . IT BUY

US TIME AND TIME IS MONEY. >> WOULD HAVE TO HAVE POLICIES OF NEW HIRES AND INTERIM. POLICIES FOR PROMOTIONS AND EMOTIONS IN THE INTERIM AND POS ADOPTION OF A PLAN. WOULD HAVE TO PICK A DATE. IF YOU ARE HIRE AFTER OCTOBER 1ST I AM ASSUMING YOU WILL BE HIRED WITH ONE OF THESE POLICIES TO THE NEW PLAN.

EVEN THOUGH NOT ALL OF OUR EMPLOYEES ARE IN IT YET. IF WE HIRE SOMEONE WE HAD THEM AND SA WE ARE HIRING AT THE CURRENT PLAN. YES WHAT ON FEBRUARY 1ST YOU WILL MOVE INTO A DIFFERENT PLAN. OR? WE HIRE THEM AT THE PLAN WE KNOW WILL BE IMPLEMENTE AND SAY YOU ARE SET NOW AND THERE ARE NO FUNDS ASSOCIATED WITH CHANGES. THESE ARE THINGS THAT HAVE TO BE WATCHED OUT FOR

IN THE NEXT FEW MONTHS. >> I THINK IF WE DID THIS-LADIES, I WANT YOU TO HEAR THIS. ADDITIONALLY, IF WE ADOPTED THIS TO ENSURE THE NUMBERS STAYED THE SAME BETWEEN OCTOBER 1ST AND FEBRUARY 1ST , WOULD SAY NO REGRADE OR NEW POSITIONS IN THAT PERIOD. TO KEEP THE NUMBER SET.

>> ALL OF THESE ARE POLICY THINGS THAT WOULD NEED TO COME BEFORE US SOONER RATHER THAN LATER SO THAT WE DO NOT CREATE PROBLEMS IN HIRING, CHANGING JOBS AND PROMOTIONS AND THINGS LIKE THAT IN THE INTERIM. THE DEPARTMENT AND ELECTED OFFICIAL

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WOULD HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY BETWEEN NOW AND FEBRUARY 1ST .

THE CORRELATION IS FAIRLY SIMPL AND VICKI HAS A CALCULATION OF WHERE TO PLACE WILL BE PLACED I WHAT THE DIFFERENCE IS. ON FEBRUARY 1ST HERE IS WHAT THEY WILL BE MAKING IN HERE IS WHAT YOU HAVE. THEY COULD MAKE THOS DECISIONS AND GET IT APPROVED AND TURNED INTO HR WITH MINIMAL CHANGES. SO THAT ON FEBRUARY 1S THEY ALL OF A SUDDEN APPEAR IN THE NEW PLACEMENT. THAT WOULD MEAN NOTHING UNTIL FEBRUARY 1ST EXCEPT WE WERE POLICY.

>> I WOULD RECOMMEND WE KEEP THE-PLAN UNTIL FEBRUARY 1ST .

AS USUAL AND WE CAN SHOW THEM, - THE NEW HIGHER, THE PLAN. HERE IS WHAT YOUR POSITION WILL BE. HIRE DATE OF THIS AND PLACED HERE BASED ON WHAT YOU WERE HIRED AT UP TO THE 25TH PERCENTILE AS OF NOW. THOSE AR THE POLICY DECISIONS THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE WORKED OUT SOONER RATHER THAN LATER. WE CAN START HIRING NEW POSITIONS IN OCTOBER NOT TO MENTION VACANT POSITIONS TOMORROW. WE WANT TO KNOW HOW WE WILL TREAT THE NEW EMPLOYEE WITH THE TRANSITION TO THE NEW PLAN. IT WOULD HAPPEN ANYWAYS.

>> THE LAST PIECE IS STEP IMPLEMENTATION FEBRUARY 1ST TO KEEP THE CONVERSATION CLEAN. DOESN'T MAKE SENSE?

>> A LITTLE DIFFERENT FROM WHAT WE DISCUSSED EARLIER STARTING OCTOBER 1ST. WE ARE DELAYING IT

>> WE ARE PRETTY MUCH ADOPTING FEBRUARY 1ST PLAN . EVERYBODY HAS TO GO TO THE PROMOTION DATE THAT IS THE STARTING POINT. YOU ARE ADOPTING THE PROMOTION DATE PLAN. THE DEPARTMENT ELECTED OFFICIAL WILL BE ALLOWED DISCUSSION WITH WHAT TO DO WITH EACH AND EVERY EMPLOYEE ABOUT THAT WITH THE DIFFERENCE. THEY COULD JUST ADOPT THE HIRE DATE PLAN AND TURN IT IN AND THAT WOULD BE DONE. OR, THEY COULD SAY THERE ARE IN EQUITIES IN HERE BASED UPON HOW THE DATES WORK AND THINGS LIKE THAT. I HEARD SOMEONE LAST YEAR AND I HAD TO HIRE THEM AT THE 50TH PERCENTILE BECAUSE OF MARKET CONDITIONS. I HAVE IN THE COMPLETE WITH SEVEN YEARS OF X-RAYS WERE TO WANT TO ADOPT A PLAN WHERE THEY ARE BOTH THE SAME. I CAN POTENTIALLY DO THAT EVEN THOUGH THE HIRE DATE DOES NOT NECESSARILY RESULT IN

ADDITIONAL FUNDS. >> IT WILL GIVE DEPARTMENT HEAD AND ELECTED OFFICIALS THE AUTHORITY AND ABILITY TO MAKE

DISCREPANCIES GO AWAY. >> AND, IT WILL GIVE US TIME TO COME UP WITH CELERY INITIATION POLICY. AND GUIDANCE TO HELP.

>> ALL OF THAT TO TELL YOU THAT WE SEE YOU 100%. PLEASE KNOW

THAT. THANK YOU. >> HOW MANY PEOPLE WILL BE GLAD WHEN I AM NOT HERE TWO YEARS FROM NOW?

>> NO, YOU ARE GREAT CONTRIBUTION.

>> IT MIGHT GO FASTER. >> THERE IS NOTHING GOOD ABOUT FAST IF IT IS NOT COMPLETE. WHA ELSE VICKI?

>> ON THE DEAL CONTRACT EXTENSION AND RECOMMENDED BUDGE WE DISCUSSED. I HAVE MET WITH THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE LOOKING AT THE NUMBERS AND THE CONTRACTS W HAVE IN PLACE. THE CONTRACT FOR REQUIRED NUMBER OF BEDS WE WERE GOING TO RAMP UP TO NOVEMBER 1ST. WE HAVE BEEN WORKING OVER THE PAST FEW WEEKS WITH PHYSICIANS TO SEE HOW WE COULD GET THE FUNDING LEVEL IN CONTRACT ATTENTION TO MEET THE NEEDS OF THOSE OUTSOURCING CONTRACTS. $950,000 IS THE ADDITION NEEDED FOR THE CONTRAC ATTENTION. ADDITIONALLY THE BOARD APPROVED A CONTRACT TWO WEEKS AGO WITH DEPUTY BROWN FOR FINANCIAL INVESTIGATIONS WITH THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE. WE NEEDED TO BUDGET THAT. IT WAS AFTER TH VOTE ON THE PROPOSED BUDGET. I WORKED WITH THE SHERIFF'S OFFIC AND IDENTIFIED THE POSITIONS AN NEW BACKGROUND OF VESTED INTEREST IN THE BUDGET. THEY HAVE AGREED TO REMOVE THOSE TWO POSITIONS, AS WELL AS TWO DEPUTIES AND CORRECTIONS OFFICERS TO HELP FUND INCREASE IN CONTRACT ATTENTION. WE ARE ALSO REMOVING THE TEXAS STATE CONTRACT. WE HAVE HAD IT IN PLACE FOR TWO YEARS AS A RECRUITMENT TOOL THAT THEY USED THEY ARE LOOKING AT OTHER OPTIONS FOR RECRUITMENT. THE OTHER CUTS ARE SOFTER. THEY HAV AGREED TO HOLD OFF ON OR USE OTHER FUNDS FOR. THE TRANSPORT DEPUTY WAS CONVERTED TWO WEEKS

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AGO. IDENTIFYING A SAVINGS FOR THE TRANSPORT DEPUTY. THE NEXT

SECTION- >> VICKI, I WANT TO ENSURE-I HAVE HAD A COUPLE OF MEETINGS WITH THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE WITH THE SHERIFF AND THE CHIEF AND OTHERS. I WANT TO ENSURE THAT W ARE CONTINUING TO DO EVERYTHING THAT WE CAN TO BRING OUR INMATE BACK. I APPRECIATE- I KNOW THAT WE STRUGGLED WITH PERSONNEL. AN THAT WE HAVE HIRED NUMEROUS CORRECTIONS OFFICERS. AND WANTE TO ENSURE THAT WE ARE CONTINUIN TO WORK TO DO ALL THAT WE CAN T RECRUIT THOSE POSITIONS AND GET THE EMPLOYEES WE NEED TO MEET OUR RATIO AND BRING INMATES BAC TO OUR COUNTY. I AM ENCOURAGING THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT TO CONTINUE TO WORK TOWARD THAT

GOAL AND EFFORT. >> I KNOW THEY HAD RECRUITED, I BELIEVE NINE POSITIONS A FEW WEEKS AGO, WHICH IS WHAT WE RETURNED TO WORK WITH NUMBERS FOR OTHER POSITIONS WE COULD REMOVE SO THAT THEY COULD START BUILDING CORRECTIONS OFFICER STAFF BACK UP. THE TAX OFFICE I REQUIRED TO DO A SOFT AUDIT.

THIS WAS APPROVED LAST YEAR, I BELIEVE. WE DID RFP AND-WAS AWARDED THE CONTRACT. THE AUDIT IS GOING TO TAKE PLACE BY 2024.

THERE WILL POTENTIALLY BE COST-SHARING. I HAVE REACHED OU WITH JENNIFER AND SHE HAS WORKE ON SOME CALCULATIONS WITH THE TAXING ENTITIES AND WE NEED TO WORK WITH GENERAL COUNSEL TO DEVELOP FUNDING SO THAT THEY CA PARTICIPATE. THE NET EFFECT OF THAT, THE COUNTY PORTION WILL B JUST OVER $6000. CONSTABLE PRECINCT FOR OFFICE, THE NEW DEPUTY HE REQUESTED. THERE WAS NOT A REQUEST AND IT IS ADDING THE PIECE FOR THAT POSITION.

THE CCC DIRECTOR, I SPOKE WITH HER LAST WEEK. WE HAD A GRANT FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE FOR CITIZENS REPORTING SOFTWARE MODULE. A DESKTOP OFFICER REPORTING MODULE. THE GRANT IS ENDING HALFWAY THROUGH FY 24. W NEED TO BUDGET SIX MONTHS OF TH CONTRACT IN NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET. SHE ALSO HAD REQUESTED TO ADD CONSULS TO THE 911 CENTER. THIS IS IN THE EVENT THERE IS AN EMERGENCY AND NEED TO HOUSE SAN MARCOS. THEY DO NOT LECTURE CONSULS AT THIS TIME. SHE HAD REQUESTED SIX CONSULS TO FULLY OUTFIT THE STATIONS THAT ARE THERE. WE COMPROMISED WITH THRE THIS YEAR AND THREE AND FY 25 BUDGET. USING RESERVES TO FIND THAT. THE TREASURER'S OFFICE. THEY ARE MOVING THE MAILROOM.

THERE HAS BEEN SOME DISCUSSION IN COURT ABOUT MOVING THE PERSONNEL FILES THAT ARE LOCATE IN THE TREASURER'S OFFICE. SHE HAS AN OPPORTUNITY TO MOVE OFFICE SPACE AND MOVE THE MAILROOM UP. IT WILL COST $6000 AND I RECOMMEND USING RESERVES FOR THAT AS WELL. THE POSTAGE MACHINE SHE IS USING RIGHT NOW IS PRETTY OLD. CLOSE TO 20 YEAR OLD. SHE WORKED WITH STEPHANIE TO GET A QUOTE FOR THAT. IT IS ALSO A RECOGNITION TO COME OUT OF RESERVES WE WILL STILL BE A LITTLE OVER FIVE MONTHS. IF YOU DO THE GENERAL FUNDS THE NEXT TWO CONTRACTS ARE INCLUDED IN

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THE BUDGET. THE OFFICE OF EMERGENCY SERVICES, WE HAD A GRANT TO COVER THAT AS MAINTENANCE. IT WAS ALSO INCLUDED IN THE OFFERING BUDGET IS BEEN REMOVED. THE GPS TROOPERS, STARKLY WE FUNDED RADAR AGREEMENTS IN THE STATE I TAKING THAT OVER. AND THEY ARE TERMINATING THE AGREEMENT SET TIMBER 30TH. THE NEXT FOUR AREAS. THE GRANT BUDGET. TELLS THEM WHAT THE GRANTS ARE THAT NEED ADJUSTMENTS BECAUSE OF NOT BEING BUDGETED AT THE TIME WE VOTED ON A PROPOSED BUDGET. NEW GRANT AWARDS THAT HAVE BEEN RECOGNIZED SINCE OR DEFERRED REVENUE. WE NEED TO BUDGET FOR THOSE. IT IS UNDER NEW

MANAGEMENT. >> I DO NOT FEEL COMFORTABLE DISCUSSING THAT WITHOUT-HERE.

>> THERE IS ALSO A LIST FOR NEW AND REPLACEMENT VEHICLE USES.

OUTLINING A COUPLE OF CHANGES W ARE LOOKING TO ADD VEHICLES FOR THE NEW CONSTABLES ADDED USING-FUNDS. THERE IS NO COST T BUDGET AMOUNTS FOR THAT. COMPUTER SUPPLIES AND EQUIPMENT THE I.T. DEPARTMENT GOT UPDATED PRICING. SOME OF THE THINGS WER REMOVED THAT WERE NOT NEEDED AN LONGER. THAT IS 14,338. THE NEX ITEM IS LISTED ON PAGE 45 OR 46 THE PURCHASE ROLLOVERS. EVERY YEAR PROJECTS THAT ARE CAPITAL PROJECTS THAT ARE NOT ANTICIPATED TO BE COMPLETED BY SEPTEMBER 30TH. NO COST TO NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET WE BUDGET IT TO B COMPLETED NEXT YEAR.

>> REMOVING THE TWO ITEMS WE DISCUSSED EARLIER. MOVING $15,000 FOR-FUNDING TO ARPO. MOVING ASSISTANT DIRECTOR SALARY, GENERAL FUND TOTAL TO $66,000 DEPOSITED. WHICH COULD BE PUT IN CONTINGENCY. APPLIED TO SALARY ADJUSTMENT AMOUNT THA WE HAVE. OR, BUDGETED FOR OTHER THINGS.

>> WE DO NOT KNOW WHAT THE CONSEQUENCES ARE OF OUR DECISIO FOR THE DOLLAR AMOUNT FOR EACH PUBLIC HEAD OFFICIAL. I BELIEVE IT IS A GOOD SUGGESTION TO HOLD THE MONEY AS A POTENTIAL SUPPOR IN CASE. AT THE END OF THE DAY IT MIGHT BE A SMART IDEA.

>> THAT IS THE RECAP FOR THE GENERAL FUND. THE PUBLIC SAFETY BOND FUND, THOSE ARE THE PROJECTS JUST AWARDED FOR THE SERVICE STATION AREA. ROLLING THOSE FUNDS TO THE PROPER AREA.

THE NEXT SECTION IS ARPO FUNDS. I DID INCLUDE UPDATED RECAP ON PAGE 51 AND 52. I CREATED THE PRECINCT ALLOCATION FOR EACH PRECINCT. SO THAT YOU CAN SEE JUST YOUR PRECINCT ALLOCATION.

THESE DO NOT HAVE TO BE FINALIZED TODAY. IS JUST FOR YOUR INFORMAION. WE DID COMMIT TO THE TWO CONSTABLES. DEPUTY CONSTABLES FOR PRECINCT ONE, PRECINCT 3 AND PRECINCT 5. THE COMMUNITY OUTREACH TEMPORARY PERSON WILL BE ADDED. I HAVE ALSO INCLUDED ON PAGE 57 AND 58 THE POSITIONS FOR PRETRIAL SERVICES. WE HAVE SET ASIDE $650,000 FOR MODULE POSITIONS

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FOR PRETRIAL SERVICES. ESTABLISHING THOSE POSITIONS AT THE LEVEL THAT I DISCUSSED WITH THE PRETRIAL SERVICES DIRECTOR.

ON PAGES 53 THROUGH 56, THOSE ARE YOUR INDIVIDUAL ARPO ALLOCATIONS . I DID SPEAK WITH ERIC AND HAVE ADJUSTED THE CONTRACT BASED ON FEEDBACK OF WHEN THEY THINK THEY WILL BE FINALIZING THE REVIEW AND MANAGEMENT OF THE PROJECTS.

>> I WANT WHICH I DO NOT MISS I VICKI. THE POSITION THAT WILL B

HELPING WITH HISTORICAL WORK. >> IT WAS INCLUDED IN THE

PERSONAL REQUESTS. >> IT WILL GO UNDER PACHECO. I BELIEVE IT IS PAGE 37 OF THE CHANGES. WE CHANGED THE START DATE FOR ONE OF THE SENIOR PLANNERS FOR MARCUS. REMOVED TH TWO ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH SPECIALISTS. ADDED GIS TECHNICIAN AND EFFECTIVE JUNE 1ST. AND ADDED ANOTHER SENIOR PLANNER. TO NOT AFFECT THE POSITIONS HE HAD BEFORE. JUST DIFFERENT POSITIONS. WE WERE TRYING TO FIT IT IN WITH NOVEMBER 1ST START DATE. TRYING TO KEEP THE BUDGET NEUTRAL. HAD TO PUSH IT TO DECEMBER 1ST STAR DATE.

>> CAN WE TALK ABOUT THAT SOME? I KNOW WE TALKED ABOUT SPECIFIC POSITIONS UNDER DEVELOPMENT SERVICES WHEN WE SPOKE MARCUS.

CAN YOU EXPLAIN THE DIFFERENCE IN WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT AND HISTORIC PRESERVATION? THIS IS THE FIRST I HAVE SEEN IT.

>> THAT REQUEST HAS BEEN AFTER DISCUSSIONS WITH OUR HISTORIC MISSION. IN REGARD TO EFFORTS T HELP ASSIST WITH THEIR INITIATIVES WHEN IT COMES TO SURVEYING AND HISTORIC PRESERVATION PLAN. I ASSISTED THEM WITH IDEAS. I HAVE MY OWN INTERNAL IDEAS ABOUT THE POSITION. ALREADY HAD ONE SENIO PLANNER POSITION BUDGETED AND REQUESTED. TO DO PLANNING LEVEL WORK IN THE COUNTY. WHETHER IT IS CONSERVATION PLANNING OR OTHER TRANSPORTATION PLANNING O OTHER PLANNING INITIATIVES. WHE THIS WAS DISCUSSED AND IT WAS BROUGHT TO THE EQUATION, I SAID HESTER RESERVATION TO BE FACTORED INTO THE SENIOR PLANNING ROLES IN THE WHEELHOUS FOR THE COUNTY. THE SENIOR PLAN I FELT IT WAS A GOOD POSITION THAT WE COULD INTRODUCE TO THE COUNTY TO HELP ASSIST WITH HISTORIC PRESERVATION AMONG CONSERVATION AND PRESERVATION T HAVE A BETTER LOOK GOING FORWAR WITH THE COUNTY THAN THE STEREOTYPICAL SUBDIVISION

DEVELOPMENT. >> MY QUESTION IS, GIVEN THE PLAN AND HOPEFUL IMPLEMENTATION OF THE REROUTE OF A RULE SET, INCLUDING THE CONSERVATION AND DEVELOPMENT TITLE, THIS IS THE PERSON FOCUSED ON THAT AS WELL?

>> YES, SIR. THEY WOULD HELP OU AND ASSIST FOR CONSERVATION AND HISTORICAL PRESERVATION. DEVELOPING INITIALS THAN THE STANDARD SUBDIVISION DESIGN. AN DEVELOPMENT WE HAVE SEEN IN THE COUNTY FOR MANY YEARS. OUR CURRENT PLANNERS WE CURRENTLY HAVE STOPPED WOULD BE MORE FOCUSED ON THE STANDARD, TYPICA ARCHETYPES OF DIVISION APPROACH SIMILAR TO WHAT THE POSITIONS WERE TITLED MANY YEARS AGO. SUBDIVISION COORDINATORS WHICH YOU SEE OFTEN IN THE COUNTY. THESE SENIOR PLANNER POSITIONS, MY GOAL IS TO HAVE THEM DO MORE PLANNING WORK IN THE COUNTY AMONGST A MYRIAD OF FIELDS WE JUST DESCRIBED. CONSERVATION, START PRESERVATION AND TRAFFIC PLANNING. MORE GROWTH AND MITIGATION AND MORE PLANNING INITIATIVES OUT THERE IN THE

COUNTY THAN WE CURRENTLY HAVE. >> WHEN WE DISCUSS YOUR BUDGET SPECIFICALLY IT WAS PART OF CHANGES THAT HAPPENED IN THE STATEHOUSE. MY CONCERN IS, I DEFINITELY- I WILL SAY THIS. I DO NOT BELIEVE ON THE COURT THERE HAVE BEEN TWO BIGGER ADVOCATES FOR CONSERVATION THAN US. I SEE THE NEED. I ALSO SEE WITHIN THE LAST TWO WEEKS I HAV PROBABLY GOTTEN EIGHT PROJECTS THAT ARE NOW EXITING THE DPJ UNDER PETITION. YOUR OFFICE WIL

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HAVE TO DEAL WITH THEM 100% NOW MY QUESTION IS, IF THIS POSITIO IS FOCUSED ON THAT, WE HAVE THE PERSONNEL IN THE UPCOMING YEAR TO ADDRESS THE NEED? IT WILL BE A PROBLEM.

>> IT IS HARD TO FULLY PREDICT. FOR BOTH SENIOR PLANNING POSITIONS THEY WILL HAVE ELEENTS FOR SUBDIVISION PROCESSES THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE. I DO NOT FULLY ANTICIPATE IT WILL BE A FULL 40 HOURS PER WEEK TO DO THAT TYPE OF PLANNING. I THINK THERE WILL BE EMPHASIS INITIALLY TO HELP OUT WITH THE IMPACT OF THE DEVELOPMENT WE HAVE SEEN. MY THOUGHT IS LET'S SEE HOW THE NEXT YEAR GOES. IT IS RECOGNIZE THERE WILL BE MORE HANDS ON SUBDIVISION COORDINATOR PLANNER NEEDED TO HANDLE THE DEMAND LIK YOU MENTIONED OF PEOPLE ANNEXIN AND WANTED TO DO MOMENTS WITH THE COUNTY. MY GOAL IS TO REQUEST A BUDGET FOR THE SPECIFIC TYPES.

>> I HOPE MEMBERS OF THE COURT KNOW EXACTLY WHAT I AM TALKING ABOUT. EVEN IN THE LAST WEEK WE HAVE HAD INDIVIDUALS AS SMALL A AN ACRE OR ACRE AND A HALF LOT WANTED TO ANNEX BECAUSE OF THE REQUIREMENTS THAT THE MUNICIPALITIES ARE PLACING ON THEM IN THE PLANNING PROCESS. I DOING THAT DE-ANNEXATION, IT BECOMES OUR BABY. WITH EVERYTHING FROM SOMETHING THAT SIZE TO PERHAPS LCR A FACILITY IN SAN MARCUS AND WE HAVE TO HANDLE THAT. NO GREAT ONE OF MY PRECINCT THAN THE MILESTONE BILL. ALMOST 3000 HOMES THAT WILL BE DROPPED IN OUR LAP. WE HAVE TO BE AWARE THAT GIVEN THE NEW 30 DAY SHOT CLOCK, I WANT T LOOK AT DEVELOPMENT SERVICE IS YEAR PROGRESSES. I WENT TO LOOK AT DEVELOPMENT SERVICES. THE FIRE MARSHAL'S OFFICE SPECIFICALLY. AND I WOULD SAY I TRANSPORTATION AND INSPECTION SERVICES THERE. TO LOOK AT HOW WE CAN MEET THE STATUTORY OBLIGATION. AND DO IT WITH THE PERSONNEL WE HAVE AVAILABLE. ON THING WE HAVE SPOKEN ABOUT IN COURT AND A LITTLE BIT OF ATTENTION THOMAS. ONE THING WE HAVE SPOKEN ABOUT IN COURT DIRECTLY ABOUT TWO OF THOSE ITEMS. WE LOOK AT THE FIRE MARSHAL'S OFFICE AND WE LOOK AT TRANSPORTATION FOR THE 30 DAY SHOT CLOCK, IS LOOKING AT SOME TYPE OF LIST OF CERTIFIED INDIVIDUALS WHO HAVE, FOR EXAMPLE IN THE FIRE MARSHAL'S OFFICE. A LICENSE THAT CAN CERTIFIED THOSE PROJECTS.

INSTEAD OF US TOUCHING THAT APPLICATION FIVE STEPS IN THE PROCESS, IF THEY HAVE SOMEONE THAT HAS THE CORRECT CERTIFICATIONS AND THEIR STANDS ARE LIKE ENGINEERING PLANS WITH THOSE CERTIFICATIONS. IT WOULD HAVE TO BE A APPROVED LIST THAT THE FIRE MARSHAL'S OFFICE COMES UP WITH OR TRANSPORTATION COMES UP WITH. OUR APPROACH TO THAT WOULD BE, FINAL INSPECTION OR INSPECTION ALONG THE WAY AT CERTAIN POINTS. BUT, NOT DAY TO DAY AND TRIED TO GET THE APPLICATION THROUGH THE PROCESS BY THE TIME WE SEE IT, OFFER A PROGRAM OR PERHAPS THE DEVELOPE OR THAT INDIVIDUAL HAS TO PAY ADDITIONAL FEES TO THE COUNTY T HAVE THE THIRD-PARTY REVIEW. HAVE A THIRD-PARTY REVIEW PRESENTED TO THE COUNTY THAT MEETS- THAT IS CERTIFIED AND MEETS EVERY ONE OF OUR REQUIREMENTS TO ADDRESS OUR STAFF NEEDS. IT WOULD DEFINITEL IMPROVE EFFICIENCY. I HAVE HAD THAT CONVERSATION WITH THE FIRE MARSHAL. HE IS VERY RECEPTIVE T IT. IT WOULD SAVE US A LOT OF TIME AND EFFORT. IN TRANSPORTATION SERVICES, I KNOW IT WOULD BE SOMETHING

WELL-RECEIVED. >> ETHIC WE ALL SAID IT WAS A

GOOD IDEA. >> WE'VE HAD THOSE CONVERSATION WITH THE FIRE MARSHAL'S OFFICE WHICH WOULD COINCIDE WITH THE FEE SCHEDULE UPDATE. AND GENERATING ADDITIONAL REVENUE.

ADDED REVENUE THAT COULD FACILITATE DISTRICT STAFF REQUESTS MOVING FORWARD. IT IS SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE VISITED IN THE TRANSPORTATION OFFICE LOOKING TO DO IN THE NEXT YEAR.

COMMITMENTS I ASKED VICKI TO PLACE $50,000 FOR SOCIAL SERVICES. I WOULD LIKE TO OFFER SOME OF THAT RIGHT NOW. I THINK IT WOULD BE BEST TO MAKE SURE THEY UNDERSTAND THIS PROBABLY I NOT IN ADDITION TO WHAT THEY GO THIS YEAR. OBVIOUSLY, ARPO FUNDS WILL RUN OUT. THE BASE LEVEL OF FUNDING APPROVED BY TH COURT IS STILL THE BASELEVEL . ONE-TIME ADDITIONAL, WHICH WE HAVE DONE BEFORE. I WOULD PROPOSE UP TO 50,000, WE DO 200

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TO EACH. SOUTHSIDE, WOMEN CENTER, GREATER SAN MARCUS YOUT

CENTER AND CASA. $10,000 EACH. >> REPEAT?

>> PALS, SOUTHSIDE,-WOMEN CENTER, THERE IS YOUTH SHELTER

AND CASA. $10,000 EACH. >> BEAUTIFUL.

>> I WILL SAY I ANTICIPATE HAVING MY OBLIGATED FUNDS WILL BEFORE DECEMBER OF NEXT YEAR. POSSIBLY BEFORE THE DECEMBER DEADLINE OF NEXT YEAR. I WILL BRING BACK TO COURT ADDITIONAL

ONES. >> AS I MENTIONED, I SENT A LIS TO VICKI REGARDING THAT. I KNOW THAT PALS REQUESTED ADDITIONAL 25 AND THAT IS ALREADY 10,000. WILL DO ANOTHER 10 TO PALS ALSO OUT OF MY ALLOCATION IF SOMEONE WANTS TO HELP WITH 5000 AND IT

WILL COMPLETE THE REQUEST. >> I CAN DO THE OTHER FIVE.

>> CAPITAL IDEA COMMISSIONER HA COME TO US AND THEY WANT

ADDITIONAL 45,000 DOLLARS. >> I AM COMMITTED TO SPLITTING

THAT. >> THAT ONE IS DONE.

>> THAT ONE IS INCLUDED. >> KS THE SAN, A RADIO STATION THAT PUTS OUT EMERGENCY COMMUNICATIONS AND OTHER- THEY ASKED FOR ADDITIONAL $50,000. I SAID THEY NEED SOME OF THE FUNDING FOR RENT. AND NOT SURE WHERE THEY ARE HOUSED AT?

>> I THINK THEY ARE ACROSS THE STREET.

>>? I BELIEVE SO. >> PUT ME DOWN FOR 25 RIGHT NOW VICKI AND I WILL TAKE A LOOK TO SEE WHAT I HAVE.

>> I DID DO THAT. >> VICKI, WE WILL SPLIT THE 50

REQUEST. >> THE OTHER AGENCY COMMISSIONER-ON THE SOUTH SIDE. I WILL COMMIT TO 10,000. ANY

OTHER? >> I DID HAVE ONE QUESTION IF YOU WANT TO MOVE ON. FOR THE-I SPOKE TO YOU ABOUT.

>> THAT IS ON PAGE TWO TO BUDGE OPIOID SETTLEMENT FUND. WE WERE GOING TO USE THOSE FUNDS, NOT ARPO FUNDS.

>> CORRECT. I WOULD GO LIVE -- GAVE CLARIFICATION. THE-ITSELF IS SET UP SPECIFICALLY WITH OUR PARTNERS THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY, AS WELL AS REPRESENTATIVES FROM THE COURT AND THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY. WE ARE TRYING TO ADDRESS BEHAVIORAL- WHAT IS THE BEST WA TO PUT THIS? ALL ISSUES AND ALL-INCLUSIVE ISSUES WHEN IT COMES TO MENTAL HEALTH.

SUBSTANCE ABUSE AND THOSE TYPES OF ISSUES. IF YOU LOOK AT THE FUNDING PROVIDED UNDER THE OPIOID PROGRAM, IT SPECIFICALLY TARGETS THOSE FUNDS FOR THAT ISSUES. ARE TO BE SURE WE ARE USING THEM IN THE CORRECT WAY T DO, TO DEDICATE AND COMMIT TO DEDICATING WHATEVER FUNDS WE GE FOR THOSE USES, SPECIFICALLY TO THE BACK. IN DOING SO IT WILL ALLEVIATE- IF YOU LOOK. NOT ONL CONSUMABLES BUT FOR MEETINGS AN THOSE KINDS OF THINGS. IT WILL ALSO BE SET IN PLACE SPECIFICALLY FOR PLANNING OR SOFT COSTS RELATED TO DIVERSION TO DO WE DO IN THE FUTURE. IT WOULD GET A TRUE CENTER FOR US AS A COUNTY. AND ALL OF THE DEPARTMENTS AND AGENCIES WITHIN THE COUNTY AND THOSE THAT WE WORK WITH TO HAVE A FOCAL POINT AS WE MOVE FORWARD ON THE

PROJECT. >> I HAVE IT LISTED ON PAGE TWO

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THIRD TO LAST FUND. THERE IS NO A LOT OF GUIDANCE RIGHT NOW. IT IS A LITTLE VAGUE. IT DOES SAY IT MUST BE USED TO SUPPORT A WIDE VARIETY OF STRATEGIES TO FIGHT THE OPIOID CRISIS.

>> A GOOD, WIDE VARIETY. >> I AM RECOMMENDING TO BUDGET SOME OF THAT IN SUPPLIES TO HEL WITH MEETINGS AND SYMPOSIUMS AN THE BALANCE IN CONTRACT SERVICES. WHICH IS A TOTAL OF

$166,000. >> THE OTHER THING I WOULD SAY IS THOSE CONTRACT SERVICES THAT WE ARE USING FOR THE MENTAL HEALTH COURT, IF WE GET INTO A BIND WHERE WE HAD TO TRY TO FIN SOME OF THE MONEY. THIS WOULD B THE PERFECT WAY INSTEAD OF COMING TO THE COURT EVERY TIME THEY HAVE SOMETHING NEW LIKE THAT, THEY ARE CURRENTLY MEMBER OF THE BAT AND HELPING TO DIREC THE BAT IT WOULD GIVE US FLEXIBILITY TO SAY WE NEED ADDITIONAL ASSISTANCE IN THIS GIVEN AREA MAYBE SUBSTANCE ABUS OR A SPECIFIC TYPE OF MENTAL HEALTH SERVICE. THIS WILL ALLOW

US TO USE DIRECTION THERE. >> BACK ON PAGE 1. WERE THERE ANY OTHER EDITS TO THE ALLOCATIONS AT THIS TIME?

>> I WANT TO TAKE SOME OF MY ARPO FUNDS BACK FROM THE ELECTIONS BUILDING IN I.T. . CA WE RETURN SOME OF THE BRICKS?

JUST KIDDING. >> 10 TO SOUTHSIDE AND THAT WIL LEAVE 5000 IF SOMEONE IS INCLINED.

>> I CAN HELP THAT. >> I WILL UPDATE THE PRECINCT ALLOCATIONS AND SEND IT BACK OU FOR REVIEW.

>> THANK YOU. >> THAT TAKES CARE OF THE ARPO FUND. READY TO JUMP TO THE GENERAL FUND. SHERRY AND HER H MANAGER ARE RECOMMENDING A NEW LIST FOR SERVICE AWARDS. NOT A COST TO THE COUNTY. WE DO ASK THAT THE COMMITTEE BRINGS THESE SERVICE AWARDS TO COURT TO APPROVE. AND THOSE AWARDS ARE LISTED ON PAGES 47 THROUGH 50. SHERRY IS ASKING FOR PEOPLE TO

CHANGE OUT THE SERVICE AWARDS. >> WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THAT.

HERE IS MY SUGGESTION. LET'S GE A COMMITMENT FROM WHO IS HERE S THAT WHEN WE CALLED HER NAMES THEY ARE THE ONES HERE.

>> WE TRIED TO GAUGE- >> I AM THINKING IN THE MORNING

EVEN IF THEY ARE NOT HERE. >> WE CAN ALSO SAY JOHN DOE, JOAN, THEY ARE NOT HERE WITH US AND THEY HAVE THIS INSTEAD OF JANE, ARE YOU HERE? THIS IS A GREAT CONTRIBUTION. DIAL UP THE

GIFTS. >> WE'VE MOVED SOME GIFTS AROUND. WE HAVE THE COMMITTEE. THE GIFTS THAT WE WERE GIVING.

THE THOUGHT WAS APPRECIATED BY THE EMPLOYEES. ONE OF THE GIFTS WE ARE GIVING MAY HAVE GIVEN ON OF THE LAST ONES TODAY, WITH A WHITE LIMESTONE STAR. WE CANNOT FIND ANYBODY-

>> FROM DRIPPING SPRINGS? >> WE WERE UNABLE TO FIND A SIMILAR PRODUCT IN THE AREA. I LIKE PRODUCTS FROM THE AREA. TH COMMITTEE HAS COME UP WITH INSTEAD OF JUST GIVING A LAPEL PIN ONE YEAR, THE KEYCHAINS ARE QUITE NICE. GIVING THEM AT FIVE YEARS. A KEYCHAIN AND A LAPEL PIN. THEY WILL DISCONTINUE LAPE PINS WITH NUMBERS ON THEM SO THAT ONCE YOU ARE HERE AT ONE YEAR, YOU GET A LAPEL PIN AND THAT IS YOUR LAPEL PIN. WE CANNOT PLEASE EVERYONE WITH THESE KIND OF CHANGES. THE

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PORTFOLIO HAS BEEN NICE TO GIVE WE GIVE IT AT 10 AND WENT TO

FIVE. >> IT IS NOT WORTH AS MUCH AS I

WAS BEFORE. >> I NEVER RECEIVED ONE.

>> YOU MAY NOT PURCHASE THEM FROM THE AUDITOR OFFICE.

>> YOU'RE TELLING ME THERE WILL BE PEOPLE WITH THIS AT FIVE YEARS OF EXPERIENCE AND THIS IS ALL I GOT?

>> THIS IS WHAT YOU GET. CHATTER, CHATTER, CHATTER.

>> I NEVER GOT ANYTHING. >> A BLANKET THAT WILL BE EMBROIDERED WITH THE COUNTY SEAL.

>> WHO IS ON THIS COMMITTEE? >> I DON'T KNOW.

>> I HAVE A SILLY QUESTION. I WILL ASK AFTER COURT.

>> THESE ARE TOKENS. WE ARE NOT SPENDING EXORBITANT AMOUNT OF MONEY ON EACH GIFT. IT IS HARD TO COME UP WITH AND FIND THE RIGHT PROVIDER SO THAT YOU CAN BE CONSISTENT. 15 YEARS OF THE TUMBLER ETCHED WITH THE COUNTY SEAL. THE BOX FROM 25 YEARS TO 20 YEARS. AT 20 YEARS YOU SHOUL GET A PLAQUE. 25 YEARS, THERE ARE CHOICES. GIVEN A POCKET KNIFE FOR RETIREMENT. DOES RETIRE FROM THE COUNTY. WHATEVE THEY NEED THE KNIFE FOR. AND HI SILVR BRACELET WITH TEXAS CHARMS. WILL USE IT FOR 25 YEAR GIFT. 30 YEAR GIFT WE FOUND A BEAUTIFUL TEXAS-MADE TEXAS -SHAPED CUTTING BOARD. WE THOUGHT IT WOULD BE NICE. THAT IS THE OTHER SITUATION WITH THIS. FINDING SOME

APPROPRIATE FOR MEN AND WOMEN. >> PRONOUNCED. MY PRONOUN IS

CUTTING BOARD. >> 35 YEAR GIFT. BETWEEN SOUTH TEXAS AND MESQUITE. MESQUITE HA BEAUTIFUL FURNITURE. SOME OF THEIR MENTAL BOXES HAVE BEEN USED IN THE PAST. WORKING WITH THEM ON A COASTER SET. A SET OF DOMINOES OR DECORATIVE BOWL. I THINK I CAN GET IT IN THE RIGHT PRICE RANGE. THE DECORATIVE WATCH OR ENGRAVED WHAT WE HAVE GIVEN. THE CLASSIC RETIREMENT

GIFT IS A SET OF LUGGAGE. >> TO GO?

>> IT IS LIKE THE G■RADUATION GIFT. YOU GET A SET OF TIRES AN A SET OF LUGGAGE. LET THE DOOR HIT YOU. ARE YOU KIDDING ME? AR WE GONNA BUY THEM A TANK OF GAS ALSO?

>> IF WE COULD GIVE GIFT CARDS ARE PROBLEMS WOULD BE SOLVED.

THANK YOU FOR SUPPORTING THOSE ITEMS WE HAVE CHOSEN.

>> WE DO NOT SUPPORT IT.

>> WHERE IS YOUR RED SIGN? >> AND I HAVE A BLANKET TO KEEP

IN HERE? >> I WANT A FAN.

>> THAT WAS THE QUESTION THAT I HAD. FOR EXAMPLE IF THERE ARE CERTAIN THINGS THAT ARE LOGOED WITH HAYS COUNTY WE GIVE AS GIFTS, WE HAVE OTHER EMPLOYEES FOR AN ENGRAVED MUG, A PLACE BE LOVING TO PURCHASE AND MAKE ENGRAVED MUG THAT SAYS HAYS

COUNTY . >> WE HAD SOME THAT WERE CROOKE AND DID NOT LOOK WELL. HAVE A CABINET FULL OF ENGRAVED MUGS.

ABOUT 15 OF THEM. >> THAT IS WHAT I AM SAYING.

WHATEVER WE DO THESE CONTRACTS, DO WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO ALLOW EMPLOYEES TO PURCHASE THE ITEMS NO? I WAS JUST WONDERING.

>> I HAVE ASKED THAT BEFORE. >> IF YOU WANT TO SET UP A SHOP

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THAT SHOP. >> I WILL SPEAK TO THE AUDITOR AND IS NOT A GOOD IDEA. YOU WOULD HAVE TO AUDIT IT. YOU HAV

TO HAVE INVENTORY. >> I WANT TO REFUND MY WOODEN

BOWL. NO SHOP. >> IF WE EVER DO HAVE A SHOP I

THINK-SHOULD BE THE ATTENDANT. >> A MASSIVE SIGN THAT SAYS ALL

SALES FINAL ON EVERYTHING. >> VICKI?

>> TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT AN ROAD AND BRIDGE GENERAL FUND.

AND MET WITH JERRY LAST WEEK AN SPOKE WITH WINTON AS WELL. THES ARE ITEMS THEY WANT TO MOVE AROUND THE BUDGET. AND PROJECTS THAT HAVE RECENTLY BEEN APPROVED. NO ADDITIONAL FUNDS GENERATED THERE. THE SHERIFF PURCHASE ORDER ROLLOVER. THE SAME WITH THE LAW LIBRARY. MANAGER THAT WE HAVE ALREADY DISCUSSED POSITIONS AND INTERIM PROGRAM AND ADMIN AND DEPUTY CLERKS. THERE ARE ROLLOVER PURCHASE ORDERS AS WELL FOR OFFICE CUBICLES. THE COUNTY PRESERVATION FUNDS JUST UPDATED SUPPLIES AND SCANNERS AND MOVIN IS OVER FROM THE GENERAL FUND T THIS FUND. THE JUSTICE COURT BUILDING AND SECURITY FUND WITH THE ROLLOVER PURCHASE ORDER FOR JP FIVE. BULLETPROOF GLASS APPROVED IN MAY. SHE WAS ALSO RECENTLY APPROVED FOR AN IPAD.

IT NEEDS TO BE RULED AS WELL. AND BUDGETING EQUIPMENT FOR THE JP TO AND TECHNOLOGY FUND. WE TALKED ABOUT OPIOID SETTLEMENT FUND. THAT IS THE BUDGET TO ADD WE NEED TO START BUDGETING IT FOR USE. THE MESA FUND IS UPDATED REVENUE AND EXPENSE BUDGET. THE INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENT FUND HAS ROLLOVER PURCHASE ORDERS. THERE IS ALSO REQUEST TO PURCHASE REPLACEMENT BATTERIES FOR PUBLIC SAFETY BUILDING. THEY ARE ALMOST $70,000. WE COULD PURCHASE OUT OF INFRASTRUCTURE FUND OR MOVE THEM OVER TO THE GENERAL FUND USING $64,000 IN SAVINGS. OR US

OF RESERVES. >> RITA, 66? YOU SAID 64.

>> 69. >> IT DROPPED IN DOLLARS.

>> $66,000, SORRY. $66,000 FOR THE 60.

>> WE LEAVE IT AS A PLACEHOLDER AS WE ORIGINALLY DISCUSSED FOR

PAYROLL POTENTIAL. >> I WOULD PUT IT IN RESERVES.

THE 60 9588 -- $69, 588. >> I AM READY TO MAKE MOTIONS I

YOU WANT TO OPEN ITEMS. >> ASHLEY HANDED OUT MOTIONS.

>> AM I THE ONLY ONE THAT HAS THIS

>> I GIVE IT TO EVERYBODY THAT WOULD MAKE MOTIONS.

>> WE NEED TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND START OPENING THE ITEMS. THE NEXT FOUR ITEMS ON THE AGENDA. I GIVE YOU THE SPECIFIC LANGUAGE THAT YOU NEED FOR THE MOTION.

>> I CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. WILL TELL YOU WE NEED TO OPEN A

[K9. Discussion and possible action to set the Fiscal Year 2024 salaries and allowances for Hays County Elected Officials. BECERRA/DORSETT]

ORDER OF APPEARANCE. CANINE- K-9.

>> DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTIO TO SET FISCAL YEAR 2020 FOR SALARIES AND ALLOWANCES FOR HAY COUNTY ELECTED OFFICIALS.

>> JUDGE, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE MOTION.

>> MOTION A SECOND TO OPEN. >> MOTION.

>> SECOND. I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO SET SALARIES AND ALLOWANCES FOR HAYS COUNTY FOR ELECTED OFFICIALS FOR FISCAL

YEAR 2024. IS THERE A SECOND? >> WE HAD A MOTION AND A SECOND SPECIFIC ABOUT IT, BUT WE ARE T HAVE THE MOTION AND THE SECOND.

>> NO. >> COMMISSIONER INGLESBY.

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>> YES. >> COMMISSIONER:.

>> YES >> COMMISSIONER SHALL?

>> YES. >> JUDGE?

>> YES. >> I WILL SUPPORT THE MOTION NEXT YEAR, BUT, DID APPEAR AND HAVE TOLD THE CONSTABLES ONE THING FOR THE LAST THREE YEARS AND NOT ABIDE BY IT MYSELF. I D NOT FILL COMFORTABLE DOING THAT I RESPECT WHAT THE COURT DID. I AGREE WITH IT, BUT I DO NOT FEE COMFORTABLE VOTING FOR IT.

>> PLEASE OPEN K 10. >> TAKING THE INCREASE?

[K10. Discussion and possible action to adopt the Fiscal Year 2024 Hays County budget after making final changes as a result of the public hearing. BECERRA/DORSETT]

>> WE NEED TO SEE RECEIPT. >> JUST KIDDING.

>> DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTIO TO ADOPT FISCAL YEAR 2024 HAYS COUNTY BUDGET AFTER MAKING FINA CHANGES AS A RESULT OF A PUBLI

HEARING. >> SECOND.

>> COMMISSIONER, WOULD YOU LIKE TO RESTATE THAT ?

>> FOR TECHNICALITIES AND REBECCA MAKE A MOTION TO ADOPT FISCAL YEAR 2024 HAYS COUNTY BUDGET TO APPROVE ALL CHANGES PRESENTED AND APPROVED DURING THE FINAL BUDGET HEARING.

>> COMMISSIONER INGLESBY? >> YES.

[K11. Discussion and possible action to ratify the property tax increase reflected in the Fiscal Year 2024 Hays County budget. BECERRA/DORSETT]

>> COMMISSIONER SHALL? >> YES.

>> K 11 DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION TO RATIFY PROPERTY TAX INCREASE RECITED IN FISCAL YEAR 2024 HAYS COUNTY BUDGET TO

>> SECOND. >> A SPECIFIC MOTION . I WANTED TO PREFACE SOME OF THE MOTIONS. WE HAVE THIS PROCESS EVERY YEAR AND SINCE WE AGREED THAT HAS WE DO NOT. SOMETIMES WE JOKE ABOUT SOME THINGS APPEAR TO TRY TO TAKE A LITTLE TENSION OFF.

OBVIOUSLY, THESE ARE SERIOUS THINGS AND I UNDERSTAND A LOT O WORK GOES INTO THIS AND HARD DECISIONS ARE MADE. NOT MAKING LIGHT TO ANY OF THIS. IT IS REA MONEY THAT PEOPLE HAVE ENTRUSTE THE COUNTY TO SPEND TO THE BEST OF OUR ABILITY. WE MAY NOT AGRE ON ALL OF THOSE THINGS. I BELIEVE YOU HAVE THE RIGHT INTENTIONS. I WOULD LIKE TO MAK A MOTION TO RATIFY THE PROPERTY TAX INCREASE REFLECTED IN FISCA YEAR 2024 HAYS COUNTY BUDGET.

THE BUDGET WILL RAISE MORE REVENUE FROM PROPERTY TAXES AND LAST YEAR'S BUDGET BY 12 MILLIO $771,000 AND $921 FOR 12.3 PERCENT INCREASE FROM LAST YEAR'S BUDGET. THIS PROPERTY TA REVENUE TO BE RAISED FOR NEW PROPERTY ADDED TO THE TACTUAL

THIS YEAR IS $7,717,000. >> $5 MILLION FROM EXISTING PEOPLE AND THE REST CAME FROM NEW CONSTRUCTION. THAT IS WHAT WE MEAN WHEN WE TALK ABOUT GROWTH HELPING TO PAY FOR ITSELF. THANK YOU COMMISSIONER FOR NOT ONLY THE ARTICULATION O THE CONVERSATIONS WE HAVE HAD. DO NOT WANT SOMEONE MISUNDERSTANDING THEM EITHER. GOOD JOB ON THAT COMMISSIONER.

SUBJECT WE HAVE A SECOND? >> MOTION SECOND TO OPEN AND HE REITERATES THE ACTUAL ITEM TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE THE DETAILS

COVERED FOR VICKI. >> COMMISSIONER COHEN?

>> YES. >> COMMISSIONER SHALL?

[K12. Discussion and possible action to approve an order adopting the tax rate for Fiscal Year 2024 and levy the taxes. BECERRA/DORSETT]

>> YES. >> COMMISSIONER SMITH?

>> SMITH. >> JUDGE?

>> YES. >> K-12 DISCUSSION OF ACTION TO APPROVE ORDER ADOPTING TAX RATE FOR FISCAL YEAR 24 AND LEVY THE

TAXES. >> DO WE HAVE THE MOTION? NOW A

SECOND >> I WILL EXPLAIN THE DETAILS.

MY MOTION IS THAT THE FISCAL YEAR 2024 PROPERTY TAX BESET BY THE ADOPTION OF A TAX RATE OF 123075 CENTS AS FOLLOWS. .2046 SINCE FOR GENERAL MAINTENANCE AND OPERATIONS. .0829 CENTS FOR GENERAL DEBT .200 SINCE FOR ROA AND BRIDGE MAINTENANCE AND OPERATIONS. SUCH IT IS POINT 02 00. ARE DETAILS OF BEEN

ARTICULATED. >> COMMISSIONER?

>> YES. >> COMMISSIONER?

>> YES. >> JUDGE?

>> YES. VICKI YOU ARE DONE., POPCORN AND A COKE.

>> SOUNDS GOOD. >> WE ARE ALMOST DONE. I DO NOT

KNOW IF WE HAVE OPENED SEVEN. >> WE HAVE SEVERAL

MISCELLANEOUS. >> GO BACK UP TO SEVEN AND

[K7. Discussion and possible action to authorize the execution of the Equipment Calibration & Maintenance Program Agreement with FarrWest pursuant to HGAC Contract EP11-20, in the amount of $14,469.72 annually, effective October 1, 2023. BECERRA/M.JONES]

FINISH THE PAGE AND REVERSE. SEVEN PLEASE.

>> K7 DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION TO AUTHORIZE THE EXECUTION OF THE EQUIPMENT CALIBRATION AND MAINTENANCE PROGRAM AGREEMENT WITH FAR WEST PURSUANT TO HT AC CONTRACT EP 11-20 IN THE AMOUNT OF $14,469 AND $.72 ANNUALLY EFFECTIVE

OCTOBER 1ST, 23. >> SECOND.

>> ANYTHING YOU WANT TO ADD MISTER JONES?

[K4. Discussion and possible action to execute an Equipment Relocation Request for the Personal Health Department ($417.38) and the Election's Office ($417.38) copiers and amend the budget accordingly. BECERRA/T.CRUMLEY/DOINOFF]

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>> COMMISSIONER? >> YES.

>> COMMISSIONER? >> YES. K 4 DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION TO DISCUSS INCREMENT RELOCATION REQUEST WITH THE PERSONAL HELP DEPARTMENT OF $417.38 AND THE ELECTIONS OFFICE $470 $.38. COPIERS AND AMEND THE BUDGET

ACCORDINGLY. >> COMMISSIONER?

>> YES. >> COMMISSIONER?

[K1. Discussion and possible action to authorize the execution of a $2,000,000.00 Letter of Agreement between Hays County and CHRISTUS Santa Rosa Hospital (CSRSM) as budgeted for FY2024 related to Indigent health care costs' authorize a discretionary exemption pursuant to Texas Local Government Code 262.024 (a)(4). SHELL]

>> YES >> COMMISSIONER?

>> YES. BUDGET MISSION? >> YES.

>> K-ONE DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION TO AUTHORIZE EXECUTION O A $2 MILLION LETTER OF AGREEMEN BETWEEN HAYS COUNTY AND KRISTA SANTA ROSA HOSPITAL AS BUDGETED FOR FY 2024 RELATED TO INDIGENT HEALTHCARE COSTS, AUTHORIZE AND DISCRETIONARY EXAM JUNE PURSUAN TO TEXAS LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE 262.02484.

>> SECOND. >> QUICK QUESTION FOR TUCKER. I THIS SOMETHING WE CAN MIRROR IN THE FUTURE WITH ANOTHER DOLLAR AMOUNT? ARE WE LOCKED IN TO PARTICIPANTS ET CETERA?

>> THE COURT CAN ALWAYS ENTERTAIN TEACHER CONTRACTS WIT DIFFERENT PARTIES IF THEY WANT TO ENTER ANY TYPE OF RFP RFQ.

>> I KNOW WE HAD PRESENTATIONS FROM OTHER PEOPLE. I DON'T WANT TO HAMPER THIS ONE AT ALL. I DO NOT WANT KRISTA'S TO THINK THAT THERE IS ANYTHING NEGATIVE GOIN ON HERE. I WANT THE ABILITY TO OPEN THIS UP FOR OTHERS AS WELL AND I DO NOT WANT TO SUPPORT

THAT EFFORT OR ABILITY. >> DEPENDING ON WHAT SERVICES YOU CONTRACT FOR, I DO NOT SEE IT AS A PROBLEM. SUBJECT RIGHT

ON. >> JUDGE, I WILL GIVE A LITTLE BACKGROUND. ESPECIALLY COMMISSIONER COHEN, WHO HAS NOT BEEN HERE FOR THESE AGREEMENTS. PROBABLY THE FIRST ONE. IN 2011 I BELIEVE IT OPENED. 2011 OR 2012. THE COUNTY HAD NEVER PAID INDIGENT CLAIMS PRIOR TO THAT BECAUSE THE TMC AT THE TIME HAD CONVERTED FROM A COUNTY PUBLIC HOSPITAL TO A PRIVATE HOSPITAL.

IT WAS REQUIRED OF THE COUNTY. ALONG WITH THAT, PERIOD OF TIME WORKS THE TMC WITH THE INDIGENC IN THE HOSPITAL AND THE COUNTY WOULD NOT HAVE TO PAY. WE ARE LEGALLY REQUIRED TO PAY UP TO A CERTAIN AMOUNT PER INDIGENT AS QUALIFIED BY RULES SET BY THE STATE. THAT IS WITH THE HELP DEPARTMENT HAS DONE. MARGIE LEF AND SHE RAN IT FOR A LONG TIME. WHEN THEY OPENED THEIR DOOR WE GOT UP BILL FOR THE FIRST QUARTER OF OPERATIONS. A FEW HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS, I BELIEVE. NOBODY IN THE COUNTY KNEW WHAT TO DO WITH IT BECAUSE WE HAVE NOT BUDGETED FOR THOSE.

BECAUSE OF THE ARRANGEMENT. AT THAT TIME, WE STARTED WORKING O HOW WOULD WE FUND INDIGENT HEALTHCARE AND WHAT WE DO IN TH INTERIM. AT THE SAME TIME, THE WEAVER DISCUSSION CAME UP, WHIC WE HAD EARLIER TODAY AND RELATE TO THE OPENING PF. AT THAT TIME IS CALLED UPPER PAYMENT LIMIT PROGRAM. WE STARTED LOOKING AT WAYS TO USE FUNDS. WE HAD A BUDGET FOR THE HEALTH DEPARTMEN TO GET A MATCH TO PAY INDIGENT CLAIMS. IN THE DISCUSSION OF THAT AT THE TIME. SEE PMC AND THE COUNTY DECIDED THEY COULD OPERATE OUR CLINIC AND WE WOULD PROVIDE THE PUBLIC HEALTH FUNCTIONS OUT OF THE CLINIC, BU THEY COULD OPERATE THE CLINIC AND RECEIVE GRANT FUNDS FROM TH STATE TO OPERATE THOSE PROGRAMS TAKE SOME OF THE COST OF THE BUDGET AND THEREFORE, WE CAN TAKE WHAT WE WERE NOT SPENDING ON THAT AND USE UPPER PAYMENT LIMIT WHICH WAS SENT TO BE REPLACED BY THE 1115 WAIVER UNCOMPENSATED CARE FUNDS. AND GET ENOUGH MONEY SO THAT WE COULD TAKE CARE OF THE POPULATION. COMMISSIONER-WAS ON THE COURT AT THE TIME IN THE OFFICE WAS IN ERROR PRECINCT.

EVERYONE ON THE COURT BELIEVED AT THE TIME THAT WE SHOULD TRY TO ENHANCE THE PROGRAM. ONE OF THE CONDITIONS WAS NOT ONLY WOULD THERE BE A CLINIC WITH TH SERVICES WE HAVE PROVIDED IN OU STAFF DID AN AMAZING JOB DIVIDING THOSE SERVICES. WE HAV A PHYSICIAN AND WE HAVE SPECIALIST. WHICH AT THAT TIME, IF SOMEONE WENT TO THE HOSPITAL AND SEE TMC AT THE TIME WITH COMPETITIONS FOR DIABETES, THEY WOULD BE TREATED. IF THEY DID NOT HAVE INSURANCE, WHERE MY THOUGHTS GO AND WHAT MIGHT WANT TO DO? WE BELIEVE THIS COULD BE A MEDICAL HOME FOR THOSE INDIVIDUALS. WE BELIEVE THAT THEY ADDED A POSITION, OUTSIDE OF NORMAL OUR OPERATIONS, THAT WE COULD ENHANCE THOSE SERVICES AND WE DID THAT. AND PART OF THAT, SEE TMC AND CHRISTOS

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