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[A. CALL TO ORDER]

[00:00:10]

MORNING TO YOU ALL. I WOULD LIKE TO CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER. THIS MORNING'S INVOCATION WILL BE LED BY OUR VERY OWN CHAPLAIN DARIUS TODD.

IF YOU WILL ALL PLEASE RISE. >> DARIUS TODD: LET US BOW, GRACIOUS HEAVENLY FATHER, WE THANK YOU FOR THIS DAY AND WE THANK YOU FOR THIS MOMENT, LORD, ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO COME TOGETHER AND HEAR YOUR VOICE AND ALSO HEAR -- HEAR ABOUT THE CONCERNS AND ISSUES OF OUR COMMUNITY.

WE THANK YOU, FATHER, THAT HIGH TEMPERATURE CONCERNED FOR EACH AND EVERY ONE OF US THAT YOU LOVED US SO MUCH YOU GAVE US YOUR ONLY SON THAT WE MAY HAVE LIFE AND HAVE IT MORE ABU ABUNDANTLY. FATHER, WE PRAY FOR YOUR PEACE.

WE PRAY THERE WILL BE PEACE IN THE LIVES OF YOUR PEOPLE IN THIS COMMUNITY. WE PRAY FOR YOUR STRENGTH.

YOUR STRENGTH TO DO THE WORK THAT IS CALLED UPON US THAT WE MAY DO IT WITH DILIGENCE AND EXCE EXCELLENCE. WE PRAY, GOD, FOR YOUR RESTORATION THAT YOU RESTORE THOSE WHO ARE STRUGGLING.

THAT YOU WOULD RESTORE AND PROTECT THEM AND HELP THEM.

WE PRAY, GOD, FOR YOUR EMOTIONAL AND MENTAL STABILITY UPON EACH AND EVERY ONE OF US WALK IN LOVE, HEALING AND HOPE.

FATHER, WE THANK YOU THAT YOU LOVE US SO MUCH THAT WE GRANT YOU THESE PETITIONS. HAVE YOUR DAY AND LEAD US IN THE WORK AS WE DO THIS GROUP. AND I THANK YOU, LORD, THAT YOU ARE IN CONTROL. WE GIVE YOU THANKS IN THE NAME OF JESUS, I PRAY. AMEN.

>>JUDGE BECERRA: AMEN. THANK YOU, SIR.

>> I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE OF THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IS IT STANDS. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

HONOR THE TEXAS FLAG. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THEE, TEXAS, ONE STATE UNDER GOD, ONE AND INDIVISIBLE.

>>JUDGE BECERRA: WOULD YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

>>COMMISSIONER SHELL: HERE. >>COMMISSIONER INGALSBE: HERE.

>>COMMISSIONER SMITH: YES. >>COMMISSIONER COHEN: HERE.

[E. PUBLIC COMMENTS]

>>JUDGE BECERRA: HERE. THOSE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO SUBMITTED A PUBLIC PARTICIPATION WITNESS FORM WILL NOW HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK. UNFORTUNATELY, NO ACTION CAN BE TAKEN BY THE COURT AS WE ARE EXPECTED NOT TO RESPOND.

ANY QUESTIONS WILL BE TAKEN AS RHETORICAL.

ALL COMMENTS ARE OPINIONS OF THE SPEAKER AND NOT MEANT TO BE NECESSARILY CONSTRUED AS TRUTH. PLEASE KEEP YOUR COMMENTS AND LANGUAGE CIVIL AND RESPECTFUL OR YOU WILL FORFEIT THE REMAINDER OF YOUR TIME. IN THE SPIRIT OF RESPECT, PLEASE SILENCE YOUR CELL PHONES. OUR FIRST SPEAKER LAUREN FOY.

IF YOU WILL PLEASE APPROACH THE PODIUM, YOU WILL HAVE THREE

MINUTES TO SPEAK. >> CAN YOU REPEAT THE LAST NAME.

>> F-O-Y-E BE. GOOD MORNING, LAUREN FOYE, PRESIDENT OF THE LOW COST AND FREE VOUCHER SERVICE FOR PEOPLE OF HAYS COUNTY TO GET SPAY AND NEUTER SERVICES AND LOW-CAST VACCINATIONS AND FOOD PANTRY. I'M HERE TO -- JUST BECAUSE I KNOW IT IS YOUR BUDGET AND YOU GUYS ARE CONSIDERING HOW YOU WOULD LIKE TO SPREAD YOUR MONEY AROUND TO ALL THE DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONS IN HAYS. I WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW THAT LAST YEAR WE SPAYED AND NEUTERED 2331 ANIMALS HAND THIS YEAR CURRENTLY AT 3500 ANIMALS AND WE ALREADY BEAT LAST YEAR AND CONTINUED THIS PROGRESSION EACH AND EVERY YEAR.

OUR GOAL FOR NEXT YEAR IS TO -- TO DOUBLE IT AGAIN.

IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO CONTINUE TO PUSH TO GET MORE ANIMALS FIXED FOR FREE AND THE BIGGEST ONE IS ALSO OUTREACH.

WE ARE MISSING A LOT OF PEOPLE ON THE OUTSKIRTS OF HAYS COUNTY THAT MAY NOT HEAR ABOUT US, DON'T HAVE THE INTERNET ACCESS.

SO A BIG PUSH WE WOULD LIKE TO DO IS GET MORE COMMUNITY OUTREACH WITH PALS TO GET THEM INTO OUR CLINIC TO LOWER THE POPULATION OF ANIMAL GROWTH THAT IS EXPANDING OUR -- BUSTING AT THE SEAMS AT THE ANIMAL SHELTER. THE ONLY WAY TO FIX THAT TO GET OUT THERE TO PEOPLE AND GET THE ANIMALS FIXED HOWEVER WAY WE CAN

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THROUGH TRANSPORTING SERVICES, BUT A LOT OF NEW THINGS THAT PALS WOULD LIKE TO PARTICIPATE TO FIGURE OUT A NEW PLAN TO HELP OUR COMMUNITY MEMBERS. AT THAT POINT.

AND SO, I'M HERE TOED A VOID KATE FOR .SHGZAL AND THE PEOPLE IN HAYS COUNTY AND THE PEOPLE WHO LOVE THEM IF THERE IS ANY POSSIBLE WAY TO EXPAND OUR BUDGET ANY WAY YOU CAN SO WE CAN SERVICE YOUR CONSTITUENTS. THANK YOU.

>>JUDGE BECERRA: THANK YOU, MA'AM.

WE ARE GRATEFUL FOR EVERYTHING YOU DO WITH THIS COMMUNITY.

>> THIS IS A COMMENT FROM REBECCA PRINCE.

I AM WRITING TO THE BOARD TO MOVE FORWARD THE PREGNANCY RESOURCE CENTER FOR FUNDING REQUESTED FOR FORT ULTRASOUND MACHINE. AS A HAVELE TIER FOR THE ORGANIZATION OVER FOUR YEARS I MET AND ASSISTED HUNDREDS OF WOMEN AND MEN IN ROLES AS A PREGNANCY ADVOCATE.

FROM BELIEVER IN CHRIST TO NONBELIEVERS, ALL ETHNICITIES, HINDU, BUDDHISTS, MUSLIM, CHRISTIAN AND THOSE WHO COME AND VISIT OUR CENTER ARE WELCOME WITH OUR LOVE FOR OTHERS AS TO HOW WE MAY ASSIST. IF OTHER -- IF ONLY THERE HAVE BEEN THIS TYPE OF ORGANIZATION AAILABLE WHEN I HAD AN ABORTION 40 PLUS YEARS AGO, AN ACTION I KEPT SECRET UNTIL 2019.

IN THOSE YEARS FOLLOWING MY ABORTION, I EXPERIENCED EMOTIONAL, SPIRITUAL AND PHYSICAL I THINK A LISH.

IN 2019 AS A NEW VOLUNTEER PREGNANCY ADVOCATE I PARTICIPATED IN THE POST BORCHERDING STUDY SURRENDERING THE SECRET AND MOST OFFERED FORGIVENESS AND SET FREE BIBLICAL STUDIES. MANY WITH DIFFERENCING OPINIONS AND BELIEF, BUT AS AN ORGANIZATION WE DEFINE OURSELVES AS A FAITH-BASED ORGANIZATION BELIEVING JESUS CHRIST AS OUR SAVIOR. I LEAD IN ROLES AS RECOVERY AND MEETING WITH MANY WOMEN IN POST-ABORTION BIBLICAL STUDY.

THOSE ARE NOT SECULAR FOCUSED SIMILAR ORGANIZATIONS THAT ARE FOR OTHER RELIGIOUS AND BELIEFS. ALL OF THE COMMUNICATION RELIES ON TWO STATED TRUTH WITH OUR CLIENTS.

ONE, TRUE CHOICE AND ALL THOSE INVOLVED WITH THE ORGANIZATION BELIEVE EACH HUMAN AS A CHOICE AND, TWO, WITH RESPECT TO CLIENTS' BELIEF THAT THEY RESPECT OUR BELIEFS THAT LIFE IS SACRED. NO TIME DURING THEIR CALL OR VISIT THAT A CLIENT MAY SIMPLY AND KINDLY SAY THANK YOU AND LEAVE. THE CONTENT OF THE E-MAIL READ AT YOUR AUGUST 2, 2023 SEEMS FAMILIAR TO A TEXT MESSAGE INQUIRED OF OUR POST-ABORTIVE RECOVERY PROGRAM RECEIVED THE WEEK OF AUGUST 14. I RESPONDED WITH BASIC INFORMATION OF BIBLICAL-BASED PROGRAM AND THE PERSON'S RESPONSE WAS FILLED WITH WORDS OF ANGER AND INTIMIDATION.

I RESPONDED WITH RESPECT YOUR BELIEFS AND THAT YOU RESPECT OURS AT TRUE CHOICE. THAT PERSON RESPOND TO THAT TEXT WITH A QUOTE, UNQUOTE, LIKE. AS A WOMAN, MOTHER AND FELL FOLLOWER OF CHRIST. REMOVE THE TRUE CHOICE FUNDING PROPOSAL FORWARD. WE ASSIST HUNDRED OF FAMILIES IN AND BEYOND HAYS COUNTY WITH OUR SERVICES.

BECKY PRICE, ADVOCATE OF TRUE CHOICE PREGNANCY RESOURCE

CENTER. >>JUDGE BECERRA: THAT CONCLUDES OUR PUBLIC COMMENTS. I WILL TELL THE VIEWING PUBLIC THAT ONCE COVID WAS BEHIND US IT WAS SUBJECTED THAT I PULL THAT WRITTEN COMMENT OPTIONS OUT OF OUR COURT.

AND WHETHER WE AGREE WITH THE WRITERS OR NOT, I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT TO GIVE THEM THAT SPACE TO SPEAK.

SO I WANTED TO CONFIRM THAT WE ARE GOING TO LEAVE THAT IN THERE. IF SOMEONE WANTS TO TALK -- HAVE THEIR LETTER WRITTEN IN COURT, WE WILL CONTINUE TO LEAVE THAT OPEN, PAUSE NOT EVERYBODY HAS THE LUXURY OF BEING HERE TUESDAY MORNING AT 9:00 CLOCK. MOST OF US HAVE A JOB.

[F1. Adopt a proclamation recognizing September 2023 as National Suicide Prevention and Action Month. BECERRA]

I WILL CONTINUE TO HAVE THAT OPEN TO HAVE ACCESS TO OUR GOVERNMENT. OPEN F-1.

>> ADOPT A PROCLAMATION RECOGNIZING SEPTEMBER 23WR50E TWEE AS NATIONAL SUICIDE PREVENTION AND ACTION MONTH.

>> SO MOVED. >> SECOND.

>>JUDGE BECERRA: READED PROCLAMATION.

>> PROCLAMATION RECOGNIZE SIZING NATIONAL SUICIDE PREVENTION AND ACTION MONTH. WHEREAS, SEPTEMBER IS RECOGNIZED AS SUICIDE AWARENESS MONTH TO RAISE THE AWARENESS AND VISIBILITY OF IN EN TALL HEALTH AND SUICIDE PREVENTION IN THE COMMUNITY. WHEREAS THE NATIONAL SUICIDE PREVENTION AND ACTION MONTH BEGINS THE WORLD SUICIDE PREVENTION DAY ON SEPTEMBER 10, A MOMENT IN TIME IN WHICH WE RALLY THE.PUBLIC TO CREATE AWARENESS OF THE LEADING CAUSE OF DEATH AND INSPIRE MORE AND MORE PEOPLE TO LEARN HOW THEY CAN PLAY A ROLE IN THEIR COMMUNITIES TO HELP SAVE LIVES.

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AND, WHEREAS, ACCORDING THE NATIONAL ALLIANCE OF MENTAL ILLNESS NAMI, THE CDC WORDS AND THE NATIONAL INSTITUTE OF MENTAL HEALTH, SUICIDE IS THE LEADING CAUSE OF DEATH 10-13.

AND THIRD LEADING CAUSE OF DEATH 15-24.

IN THE U.S. NOTING THAT 46 HAD% OF PEOPLE DIED BY SUICIDE HAD A DIAGNOSED MENTAL HEALTH CONDITION.

ACCORDING TO THE NAMI, CDC AND NIMH 9 PRESAY LENS OF SERIOUS THOUGHTS OF SUICIDE OF THE YOUTH IN THE U.S. 11.3% OF YOUNG ADULTS AGES 18-25, 18.8% OF HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS AND 45 OF OUR LGBTQ YOUTH IN THE U.S. AND WHEREAS, AS HAYS COUNTY STATES PUBLICALLY, THAT IT PLACES ITS IF YOU WILL SUPPORT BEHIND THE CORE FOUR PARTNERSHIPS: CITY OF SAN MARCUS, HAYS COUNTY, SAN MARCUS ISTD, THE MENTAL HEALTH COALITION AND THE MEMBERS WHO WORK IN THE FIELD OF MENTAL HEALTH, EDUCATION AND LAW ENFORCEMENT.

WHEREAS, THE COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS LIKE CNIKOR FOUNDATION, GREATER SAN MARCOS YOUTH COUNCIL, HAYS COUNTY WOMEN'S CENTER, NAMI CENTRAL TE TEXAS. COMMUNITIES AND SCHOOLS OF TEXAS AND OTHER ORGANIZATIONS, LOCAL MENTAL HEALTH PROVIDERS SERVE THE FRONT LINES AND SEE THE IMPACT OF SUICIDE AND WORK TO REDUCE THE STIGMA, PROVIDE RESOURCES, SUPPORT AND PROVIDE EDUCATION TO THE CITY OF SAN MARCOS, HAYS COUNTY.

AND WHEREAS, WE ENCOURAGE ALL RESIDENTS TO TAKE THE TIME TO UNDERSTAND MENTAL HEALTH THROUGH EDUCATION BY ACTIVELY PARTICIPATING IN MENTAL HEALTH FIRST AID TRAINING, ASSIST SUICIDE PREVENTION TRAINING, YOUTH AWARENESS OF MENTAL HEALTH TRAINING, AND OTHER OPPORTUNITIES TO INCREASE EDUCATION AND AWARENESS IN HAYS COUNTY.

NOW, THEREFORE, IT BE RESOLVED THAT THE HAYS COUNTY DO HEARBY PROCLAIM SEPTEMBER AS NATIONAL SUICIDE PREVENTION AND ACTION MONTH AND RECOGNIZE THAT WE NEED TO TAKE CARE OF OUR MENTAL HEALTH WHILE WE TAKE CARE OF EACH OTHER.

ADOPTED IN FIRST DAY OF SEPTEMBER, 2023.

>>JUDGE BECERRA: OKAY. WELL WRITTEN.

WILL YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. >>CLERK: YES.

>>COMMISSIONER SHELL: YES. >>COMMISSIONER INGALSBE: YES.

>>COMMISSIONER SMITH: YES. >>COMMISSIONER COHEN: YES.

>>JUDGE BECERRA: YES. AND KRISTA LOPEZ, IF YOU WOULD

PLEASE APPROACH THE PODIUM. >> CRYSTAL IS HERE BUT I AM KATHY RIVERA. ONE OF MANY REPRESENTING THE MENTAL HEALTH COALITION OF SAN MARCOS, TEXAS.

I AM HAPPY TO BE HERE REPRESENTING OUR GROUP.

BEING ONE OF TWO IMPORTANT ENTITIES AS PART OF THE CORE FOUR MENTIONED IN PRESIDENT PROCLAMATION.

CENECOR WHO I REPRESENT PROVIDES MANY MENTAL HEALTH SERVICES IN SUBSTANCE USE AND MISUSE BUT PRIMARILY PREVENTION.

WHAT THE MENTAL HEALTH COALITION IS ABOUT WITH THE YOUTH TASK FORCE AND THE FOCUS AND GOALS THAT WE ARE PART OF.

WE PARTNER WITH SO MANY INCLUDING YOU ALL HERE TODAY IN OUR LOCAL COMMUNITY THROUGHOUT HAYS COUNTY.

WE -- WE HAVE RECENTLY HELD OUR MENTAL HEALTH RECOVERY MONTH RESOURCE FAIR, WHICH I AM REPRESENTING TODAY AND MANY OF OUR PARTNER ARE LISTED ON 79 BACK.

BUT THE WHOLE PURPOSE IS FOR THE MENTAL HEALTH, THE OVERALL WELL BEING OF ALL OF OUR RESIDENTS AND FAMILY.

THAT SAID, WE ARE VERY HAPPY TO BE HERE TODAY AND APPRECIATE YOU SYMBOLIZING THAT WITH A PROBLEM. I JUST WANT TO STATE THAT PRIMARY PURPOSE, THE MENTAL HEALTH COALITION, ANY OF OUR PARTNERS. ONE OF WHOM IS HERE, THE HAYS CALDWELL SUICIDE COALITION WHICH IS IN THE PROCESS OF BEING REESTABLISHED. NOT DIRECTLY PART OF THE COALITION BUT REPRESENTS A BIG PART OF WHY WE ARE HERE AND WHY WE BELIEVE IN OUR ASPECTS OF SERVICE PROVISION.

ALL ABOUT THE PUBLIC EDUCATION AND AWARENESS AND PROMOTING OUR COMBINED PREVENTION EFFORTS. THANK YOU, AGAIN, FOR NOTING

THAT FOR US TODAY. >>JUDGE BECERRA: THANK YOU.

COMMISSIONERS, ANY COMMENTS? INLZ INGZ INGALSBE JUDGE, APPRECIATE, YOU PARTNERSHIPS AND ANYTHING WE CAN TO DO BE AWARE OF MENTAL HEALTH SERVICES. SURE WE ARE ALL SUPPORTIVE.

>>COMMISSIONER COHEN: THANK YOU, JUDGE, FOR BRINGING THE PROCLAMATION FOOD. THANK YOU FOR THE WORK YOU ARE DOING. I BELIEVE IN COLLABORATION BECAUSE WE HAVE TO DO IT TOGETHER.

MY PRAYER IS FOR THOSE WHO HAVE LOST SOMEONE TO SUICIDE.

WE CAN GET IN FRONT OF THIS. AND I THINK EVERYONE IT DOING WHAT THEY CAN FROM EVERY SINGLE ANGLE TO BATTLE MENTAL HEALTH.

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SO HOPEFULLY SOON WE WILL GET AHEAD OF IT.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR WHAT YOU ALL WILL ARE DOING.

>>JUDGE BECERRA: COMMISSIONER SHELL.

>>COMMISSIONER SHELL: THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE.

LIKE COMMISSIONER COHEN JUST MENTIONED MAYBE TAKE AN OPPORTUNITY TO THINK OF THOSE FAMILY MEMBERS WHO LOST SOMEONE TO SUICIDE AND OFFER THEM SOME SUPPORT AND LOVE DURING THIS

TIME. >>COMMISSIONER SMITH: I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK. AS ONE OF THE TWO MEMBERS WITH JUDGE BECERRA ON THE COURT FOR POLICY GROUP, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU ALL REMEMBER, FOUR YEARS AGO WHEN IT WAS FIRST ACTUALLY -- I DON'T WANT TO SAY REFORMING, BUT A RESTRUCTURING GOING ON.

ONE OF THE REAL IMPETUS FOR THAT RESTRUCTURE WAS EVERYTHING THAT WAS GOING ON IN SAN MARCOS I ARESD AND HOW THIS WE WANTED TO TRY TO ADDRESS THAT AND WE HAVE SEEN SOME OF THE SAME ISSUES THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY. AND I WOULD JUST -- I KNOW THE COALITION OR THE CORE HAS A SAN MARCOS FOCUS ON IT, BUT WORKING WITH THE BAT WHICH BOTH COMMISSIONER INGALSBE AND I WORK ON AND WILL ACTUALLY HAVE -- WE HAVE A MEETING IN WEEK, THE BEHAVIORAL ANALYSIS TEAM, FOR THE COUNTY.

I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU ALL TO REACH OUT TO THE FOLKS WHO ARE ON THERE. BECAUSE WE ARE REALLY TRYING TO BUILD A BROAD COALITION FROM INT INCEPTION TO THE FINAL RECOGNITION OF THE PROBLEM WHERE WE HAVE GOTTEN THE FOLKS THE HELP THEY NEED, THE DIVERSE THAT TEY NEED AND THE ASSISTANCE THEY NEED FROM A HOLISTIC STANDPOINT. I SAY THAT NOT JUST FOR THE INDIVIDUAL, FOR THE COMMUNITY THEY ARE A PART OF AND THEIR COMMUNITY. WHICH I THINK SOMETIMES IS LEFT OUT. SO I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO DO SOME OUTREACH THERE TO THAT AS WELL.

>>JUDGE BECERRA: WHAT I AM GRATEFUL FOR IS, WE NEVER KNOW WHAT HAPPENS, WHEN OR WHY OR ANY OF THOSE THINGS, BUT MOST OF US I WOULD SAY, AND I WALK A LOT AROUND THIS COMMUNITY, THIS COUNTY. MOST OF US ARE PEOPLE OF FAITH.

AND I WILL SAY THAT FAITH IS THE BIGGEST, MOST USEFUL THING THAT I USE. YOU KNOW I DON'T UNDERSTAND OR SEE AROUND THE CORNER, I SAY THAT IS WHERE WALKING IN FAITH COMES IN. EASY TO HAVE FAITH WHEN THINGS ARE ROSY. MORE IMPORTANT TO HAVE FAITH WHEN YOU CAN'T SEE PAST IT. IF YOU ARE DRIVING AT NIGHT AND YOU CAN'T SEE PAST YOUR HEADLIGHTS.

JUST BECAUSE YOU CAN'T SEE PAST YOUR HEADLIGHT DOES NOT MEAN YOU ARE NOT GOING HOME. YOU KNOW YOU WILL GO HOME EVEN THOUGH YOU DON'T SEE THE WHOLE ROUTE HOME BECAUSE YOU HAVE FAITH THAT THE PATH WILL PRESENT ITSELF AS IT UNFOLDS.

AND I WILL SAY THAT IN MY VERY FIRST TERM, I FELT AVALANCHED MANAGING COVID FOR THE COUNTY. AND ONE OF THOSE BEAUTIFUL THINGS -- ONE OF THOSE GIFTS I WAS GIVEN WAS TO SEE HOW MANY WAYS AND HOW MANY SPACES OUR COMMUNITIES FOUND COMMON GROUND.

BECAUSE AS YOU ALL REMEMBER, WE ALL LIVED IT.

POLARIZING POLITICIZING OF THINGS THAT WERE DISRUPTIVE.

THE ONES THAT BENEFIT THE MOST FROM IT ARE THE PEOPLE SELLING ADS. SO THAT WAS ONE OF THOSE ISLANDS OF UNITY THAT I FELT SO GRA RIGHTFUL FOR WAS IN CARING FOR OUR COMMUNITY BECAUSE THERE WAS NO BOUNDARY, THERE WERE NO COLORS TO IDENTIFY ANY ORGANIZATIONAL ASSOCIATION.

THIS IS A REAL-LIFE ISSUE THAT AFFECTS US ALL.

AND AS COMMISSIONER SMITH JUST SAID, IT AFFECTS US AT EVERY LEVEL. WE HAVE MANY PEOPLE THAT NEED MENTAL HEALTH HEALTH SUPPORT IN OUR JAILS.

NATIONWIDE. NOT A HAYS COUNTY THING, JUST EVERYWHERE. AND SON THIS AWARENESS TO HELP PEOPLE IN DIFFERENT SPACES AT DIFFERENT TIMES IS EXACTLY WHAT THIS COURT AIMS TO DO AND SUPPORT AND I AM GRATEFUL THAT YOU DON'T LOSE SIGHT OF THE FOE CO -- FOCUS. YOU WON'T LOSE SITE OF THE FOCUS. ALL I CAN ASK FOR AT THIS POINT IF YOU GUYS DON'T MIND COMING UP FOR A PICTURE.

THANK YOU.

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. >>JUDGE BECERRA: WE WILL DO MILD BOUNCING AROUND. I WILL CONTROL IT AS LITTLE AS POSSIBLE BUT YOU ARE UNDERSTAND I AM ASKED TO COVER CERTAIN ITEMS AS FOLKS ARRIVE. I WILL DO THAT IN THE MOST

[Items G1 - G8]

SEAMLESS EFFORT POSSIBLE. I WILL GO G-1-8 AND JUMP TO K-1.

>> G-1, APPROVAL COUNTY INVOICES.

G-2, APPROVE THE PAYMENT OF JUROR CHECKS.

G-3, APPROVE THE PAYMENT OF UNITED HEALTHCARE CLAIMS. G-4, APPROVE THE COMMISSIONERS COURT MINUTES OF AUGUST 2, 2023.

G-5, AUTHORIZE COMMISSIONER U.S. PRECINCT 1 OFFICE TO MENDEZ ELEMENTARY IN THE SAN MARCOS CONSOLIDATED END MEANT SCHOOL DISTRICT. G-6, AUTHORIZE PAYMENT TO 4-WAY AUTO LCC IN $89 89.46 TO CONSTABLE PRECINCT 2 VEHICLE REPAIRS WHERE NO PURCHASE ORDER WAS ISSUED.

G-7, AUTHORIZE ADDITIONAL FUNDING FOR TREASURER'S OFFICE FOR CONTINUING EDUCATION TRAINING AND AMEND BUDGET.

G-8, TO AUTHORIZE 9 SHERIFF'S OFFICE TO CONVERT A VACANT TRANSPORTATION DEPUTY LOT 0550-075 TO A TRANSPORTATION CORRECTION OFFICERS POSITION SEPTEMBER 5, 2023 AND MOVE THE BUDGET POSITION TO THE JAIL DIVISION OPERATING BUDGET AND

AMEND THE BUDGET ACCORDINGLY. >> SO MOVED.

>> SECOND. >>JUDGE BECERRA: CALL THE ROLL.

>>COMMISSIONER INGALSBE: YES. >>COMMISSIONER SHELL: YES.

>>COMMISSIONER COHEN: YES. >>COMMISSIONER SMITH: YES.

[K1. Discussion and possible action to approve the order setting rates of compensation for person(s) service as Grand Jurors or Petit Jurors in Civil or Criminal cases in District Court, County Court, County Court-at-Law or Justice Court(s) effective September 1, 2023. BECERRA/TENORIO]

>>JUDGE BECERRA: YES. >>K-1, DISCUSS AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO APPROVE THE ORDER SETTING RATES TO OF EXPERIENCE SAYINGS FOR PERSON SERVICES FOR GRAND JURORS OR PETIT JURORS IN CIVIL OR CRIMINAL CASES OF IT DISTRICT COURT, COUNTY COURT, COUNTY COURT AT LAW OR JUSTICE COURTS.

>> SO MOOED. >> SECOND.

>>JUDGE BECERRA: WE HAVE OUR TREASURER.

MISS TENORIO, APPROACH THE PODIUM.

>> SEPTEMBER 1, A WHOLE BUNCH OF LAWS TOOK EFFECT.

ONE INCLUDING IS THE INCREASE IN JUROR PAYMENT AMOUNTS.

AND THIS CORRECTIVELY BRINGS OUR -- EXCUSE ME -- OUR GROUP, OUR LAWS -- IT UPDATES OUR PROCESSES IN OUR OWN ACCOUNTS.

SO BASICALLY, THIS IS JUST A UPDATING OF OUR OWN POLICIES.

AND ADDITIONALLY, WITH THIS NEW LAW THAT HAS BEEN PUT IN PLACE.

WE WILL BE COMPENSATED FOR FIRST-DAY JUROR TRIALS WHICH SOMETHING THAT NEVER HAS HAPPENED IN THE PAST.

I WANTED TO BRING THIS FORWARD TO UPDATE ALL OF OUR POLICIES.

>>JUDGE BECERRA: COMMISSIONERS, ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE

TREASURERS. >> THANK YOU JUDGE JUDGE THANK

YOU FOR BEING HERE. >>COMMISSIONER SMITH: YES.

>>COMMISSIONER SHELL: YES. >>COMMISSIONER INGALSBE: YES.

[G9. Authorize reimbursement in the amount of $24,050.00 for high fencing to be constructed along the perimeter of Hays County's 1,068.45 acre conservation easement located in Precinct 3, south of the La Cima subdivision. SHELL]

>>COMMISSIONER COHEN: YES. >>JUDGE BECERRA: WE WILL CONTINUE DOWN THE CONSENT ITEMS. OPEN NUMBER 9 --G-9.

>>G-9, REIMBURSE 78924,0 50 FOR HIGH FENCING ALONG THE

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CONVERSATION SOUTH OF LA CIMA. >>JUDGE BECERRA: DR. CARDENAS MAKES IT LOOK SO EASY. YOU ARE DOING A WONDERFUL JOB.

ONE INDIVIDUAL SIGN UP TO SPEAK. MR. DAN LYON.

>> THANK YOU, JUDGE BECERRA. I PULLED UP THE HE IS ESTIMATE ON THIS FROM SWIFT FENCE COMPANY.

SAYS LAND CLEARING. THIS PRICE IS TO CLEAR BRUSH AND REMOVE EXISTING FENCE FOR NEW EIGHT-FOOT-HIGH WILDLIFE FENCE.

TREES AND WOOD POSTS WILL BE STACKED ON THE PROPERTY IN BURN PILES. METAL POSTS AND WIRE WILL BE LOADED ON THE TRAILER AND RECYCLED.

NEW FENCE. THIS PRICE IS -- ALL RIGHT, THE PRICE FOR THE LAND CLEARING IS GOING TO BE $5848.

NEW FENCE. THIS PRICE IS APPROXIMATELY FOR 3432 OF EIGHT-FOOT WILDLIFE FENCE.

BRACES WILL BE CONSTRUCTED USING OIL FIELD PIPE.

AMERICAN MADE 1.33 T-POST WILL BE SPACED 20 FEET APART WITH A 2 AND 3/8 LINE POST EVERY 100 FEET.

WE WILL USE EIGHT-FOOT NET WIRE WITH STRAND SPREADED THROUGH BARBED WIRE ON TOP AND BOTTOM. PRICE CONTAINS LABOR AND MATERIAL AND 116-FOOT CAL VANNIZED GATE ON THE ROAD, UNITED STATES $42,252 FOR A TOTAL OF $48,100.

AND APPARENTLY THEY WANT US TO PAY OF A OF THAT.

NOW MY QUESTION IS IS THIS IN LOIN WITH OTHER FENCE COMPANIES? SEEMS A LITTLE HIGH. $14.0 PER LINEAR FOOT.

AND WHY DID WE NEED THE FENCE? AND ALSO, THE EIGHT-FOOT FENCE IMPEDES WILDFIRE TRAVEL. LET ME SEE HERE.

THERE WAS ONE OTHER QUESTION. BUT I KCAN'T SEEM TO RECALL IT RIGHT NOW. I BOO APPRECIATE AN ANSWER TO THOSE THREE QUESTIONS. THANK YOU.

>>JUDGE BECERRA: THANK YOU, MR. LYON.

COMMISSIONER SHELL. >>COMMISSIONER SHELL: THANKS, JUDGE. THIS PRESERVE A NEW TREMENDOUS PREFER A LITTLE OVER 1,000 ACRES ADJACENT TO THELA CIMA DEVELOPMENT NEXT TO PURGATORY CREEK PRESERVE IN SAN MARCOS.

WHEN WE ACQUIRED THIS EASEMENT -- THIS IS NOT LAND THAT WE OWN -- AN EASEMENT WE HOLD ON THE LAND.

WE AGREED WITH THE LAND OWN TO SHEAR THE COST OF THE FENCE TO PROTECT THE PRESERVE AND MANAGE THE PRESERVE.

.BORDERED PRIVATE LAND AND COULD BE ACCESSIBLE BY THE PUBLIC FOR SOME WAY. WE FELT IT WAS IMPORTANT ALONG THE LINES OF OUR EASEMENT THAT WE ARE ABLE TO FENCE IT.

THE LANDOWNER RECEIVED THE BIDS FOR FENCING AND PRESENTED THIS BID TO US TO SPLIT THE COST FOR THE FENCE WHICH WE AGREED TO

WHEN WE ACQUIRED THE EASEMENT. >>UDGE BECERRA: DID YOU WANT TO ADDRESS THE PRICE OF IT? HONESTLY I DIDN'T THINK IT

SEEMED BAD TO ME? >>COMMISSIONER SHELL: I AM NOT A FENCE BUILDER, BUT IT SEEMS IN LINE TO ME.

BUT I GUESS I CAN'T COMMENT ON THAT SINCE I AM NOT A

PROFESSIONAL FENCE INSTALLER. >>JUDGE BECERRA: COMMISSIONER

SMITH. >>COMMISSIONER SMITH: I WILL SAY, THAT MY -- MY DAD WAS A PROFESSIONAL FENCE BUILDER.

THAT IS WHAT HE DID FOR A LIVING AND I WORKED ON THOSE CREWS FOR PROBABLY 15 YEARS. WITH THE AVERAGE COST OF MATERIALS RIGHT NOW, THE LAST ESTIMATE I SAW WAS ABOUT $35 TO $50 A LINEAR FOOT. SO FOR EIGHT-FOOT-HIGH FENCE.

SO I THINK THIS IS PROBABLY A PRETTY GOOD DEAL.

>>JUDGE BECERRA: SEEMED THAT WAY TO ME TOO.

THE LAST PART HE ADDRESSED WAS THE MOVEMENT OF THE WILDLIFE.

>>COMMISSIONER SHELL: I KNOW WE AGREED TO HAVE THE EIGHT-FOOT WITH YOU, I AM NOT A HUGE FAN OF HIGH FENCING MYSELF.

I WOULD RATHER WILDLIFE BE FREE TO ROAM AROUND, BUT I DO BELIEVE FOR THE SECURITY OF THE PRESERVE IT IS PROBABLY IN THE BEST INTEREST TO MAKE SURE THAT IT IS SECURED PROPERLY.

>>JUDGE BECERRA: OKAY. COMMISSIONERS, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

>>COMMISSIONER COHEN: YES. >>COMMISSIONER SHELL: YES.

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>>COMMISSIONER INGALSBE: YES. >>COMMISSIONER SMITH: YES.

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>>JUDGE BECERRA: YES. G-10-12 PLEASE.

>>G-10, AUTHORIZE THE JUSTICE OF PEACE PRECINCT 1-2 OFFICES TO PURCHASE ONE DELL OPTIPLEX 7010 UTILIZING THE JUSTICE COURT

TECHNOLOGY FUND. >> SO MOVED.

>>JUDGE BECERRA: ALL THREE AT THE TIME.

>> SO ROAR VIS. >>G 11, AUTHORIZE PAYMENT FOR CARL BEDRICH FOR THE PURCHASE OF CONSUMABLE ITEMS IN THE BEHAVIORAL ADVISORY TEAM IN THE AMOUNT OF $271.26.

G-12, APPROVE THE RENEWAL OF RFP 2020-P 08 ELECTION FORM PRINTING

SERVICES WITH AMG PRINTING. >>COMMISSIONER SHELL: YES.

>>COMMISSIONER INGALSBE: YES. >>COMMISSIONER SMITH: YES.

>>COMMISSIONER COHEN: YES. >>JUDGE BECERRA: YES.

. >>COMMISSIONER SMITH: JUDGE, ON NUMBER 11 ALREADY I WILL SAY THIS WAS FOR THE MEALS FOR THE BAT. AND WE HAD ANOTHER REQUEST THIS WEEK. WE HAVE ANOTHER MEETING THIS WEEK. I DON'T LIKE TO BRING THESE THINGS FOR REIMBURSEMENT. I LIKE TO BRING THEM FOR APPROVAL BEFOREHAND, BUT THAT GO REQUEST DIDN'T COME IN UNTIL FRIDAY AND I IMAGINE I WILL HAVE NEXT MEETING TO FOR REIMBURSEMENT AND TRY TO PAY FOR THAT OUT OF OUR COMMUNITY

[G13. Approve renewal of RFP 2019-P05 Employee Assistance Program for one (1) additional year as stated in the original proposal, effective August 1, 2023. BECERRA/MILLER]

OUTREACH FUNDS AGAIN. >>JUDGE BECERRA: THANK YOU, WELL-DONE. OPEN G-

>>G-13, APPROVE RENEWAL OF RFP 2019-P 05 EMPLOYEE ASSISTANCE PROGRAM FOR ONE ADDITIONAL YEAR STATED IN THE ORIGINAL PROPOSAL

EFFECTIVE AUGUST 1, 2023. >>COMMISSIONER COHEN: SO MOVED.

>>COMMISSIONER SMITH: SECOND. >>JUDGE BECERRA: WE HAVE MR. DAN

LYON SIGN UP TO SPEAK. >> THANK YOU, JUDGE BECERRA.

I GOT A COPY OF THE LETTER WRITTEN TO DEER OAKS 126 EAST MAIN POLAZA, SWHOOET 1. SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS.

SAY IS RE, CONTRACT RENEWAL. THE THREE-YEAR CONTRACT FOR EMPLOYEE ASSISTANCE PROGRAM, RFP 2019-P 05 EXPIRES ON JULY 31 ALREADY 2023 AND HAS ONE YEAR RENEWAL RE. MAYING TIS LETTER WILL SERVE AS OFFICIAL NOTICE THAT HAYS COUNTY WOULD LIKE TO EXERCISE ITS SECOND FINAL OPTION TO RENEW THE EXISTING CONTRACT FOR ONE ADDITIONAL YEAR EFFECTIVE AUGUST 1, 2023 THROUGH JULY 31, 2024. PROVIDED ALL OTHER TERMS AND CONDITIONS REMAIN UNCHANGED AND IN IF YOU WILL FORCE AND EFFECT AS PROVIDED IN THE CURRENT CONTRACT IF YOU ARE IN AGREEMENT OF THE CONTRACT APPROVAL, PLEASE ACKNOWLEDGE BEFORE AND E-MAIL A SIGNED COPY TO PURCHASING AT COUNTY HAYS COUNTY, ANYWAY, UPON ARRIVAL BY THE HAYS COUNTY COMMISSIONERS COURT, A FULLY EXECUTED COPY WILL BE RETURNED TO YOU FOR YOUR FILES.

PLEASE E-MAIL PURCHASING IF YOU WITH I SHALL TO MAKE MODIFICATIONS TO THE CONTRACT OR HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU. THAT IS ALONSO CPA, HAYS COUNTY AUDITOR. MY QUESTION SAYS EFFECTIVE AUGUST 1, 2023. AND GOES THROUGH JULY 31.

SHOULDN'T THIS HAVE BEEN VOTED ON BEFORE THAT TIME? AND ALSO, THERE IS NO STATEMENT OF HOW MUCH THIS IS GOING TO COST THE COUNTY. AND I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW THAT TOO. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>>JUDGE BECERRA: THANK YOU, MR. HAYSLYON.

MARISOL, WOULD YOU LIKE TO ADDRESS THAT.

>> I WILL ASK STEPHANIE FROM MY OFFICE ADDRESS THISLYON.

MARISOL, WOULD YOU LIKE TO ADDRESS THAT.

>> I WILL ASK STEPHANIE FROM MY OFFICE ADDRESS THISLYON.

MARISOL, WOULD YOU LIKE TO ADDRESS THAT.

>> I WILL ASK STEPHANIE FROM MY OFFICE ADDRESS THISLYON.

MARISOL, WOULD YOU LIKE TO ADDRESS THAT.

>> I WILL ASK STEPHANIE FROM MY OFFICE ADDRESS THIS SXH.

>> STEPHANIE HUNT, FIRST ASSISTANT COUNTY AUDITOR.

THE RENEWAL STARTED JULY 1 -- JULY 31 THE RENEWAL LETTER FOR THE FINAL YEAR AND GOT OVERLOOKED.

SO WE ARE ASKING THE COURT TO RATIFY BACK FOR AUGUST 1 SO THERE IS NO LAPSE IN COVERAGE TO THE CONTRACT.

THAT'S. THE COST OF IT --

>> $12,075. >>JUDGE BECERRA: YOU NEED A MIC

AT THAT SPOT. >> SHERRY MILLER, HR DIRECTOR, HAYS COUNTY. ANNUAL COST OF OUR EMPLOYEE ASSISTANCE PROGRAM IS 12,075. THIS AMOUNT WILL BE -- AFTER WE

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PAY IT, WE WILL BE REIMBURSED FROM UNITED HEALTHCARE HOW THAT OUR COUNTY WELLNESS FUNDS THAT WE GET GREATER THAN THAT AMOUNT A YEAR TO SPEND ON WELLNESS INCENTIVES AND PROMOTIONS AND PROGRAMS. SO WE WILL -- WE WILL RECOUP THAT MONEY. WE WILL -- WE DO PLAN TO GO OUT FOR BID NEXT YEAR ALONGSIDE OUR HEALTH, DENTAL AND VISION PROGRAMS. SO WE WILL INCORPORATE AN EMPLOYEE ASSISTANCE PROGRAM INTO THOSE MARKET BIDS AND SEE IF WE WANT TO -- IF DEER OAKS WANTS TO STAY WITH US.

THE COUNTY IS OF A SIZE WHERE WE DO NEED -- AND IT IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT TO MAINTAIN AN EMPLOYEE ASSISTANCE PROGRAM.

IT IS NOT USED -- WE ARE NOT ALL CALLING EVERY DAY FOR ASSISTANCE, BUT WHEN WE DO INTO THEY HAD ASSISTANCE OR INFORMATION, THAT PROGRAM NEEDS TO IT BE IN PLACE FOR AN ENTITY THIS SIZE. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?

>>JUDGE BECERRA: MARISOL, I THINK YOU ARE OFF THE HOOK WITH THE PRICE. IT WAS ALREADY SPOKEN.

>> IT'S A PER EMPLOYEE, PER MONTH RATE, BUT WE PAY IT UP FRONT ANNUALLY AND WE WILL BE REIMBURSED FROM UNITED

HEALTHCARE. >>JUDGE BECERRA: COMMISSIONERS,

QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? >>COMMISSIONER SMITH: THOSE FOLKS THAT DON'T KNOW WHAT THE EMPLOYEE ASSISTANCE PROGRAM.

CAN YOU OUTLINE WHAT THE PURPOSE IS AND WHY THE INSURANCE PROVIDER IS WILLING TO PAY FOR IT FOR US.

>> LET'S ADDRESS THAT PIECE FIRST.

WE HAVE WITH OUR UNITED HE HEALTHCARE PROGRAM THAT PROVIDE OUR HEALTH AND DENTAL CARE AT THIS TIME, INSURANCE COVERAGE AT THIS TIME, THERE IS A COMPONENT OF THAT THAT FUNDS ABOUT $25,000 A YEAR FOR THE COUNTY TO USE FOR COUNTYWIDE WELLNESS PROGRAMS. A LOT OF YOU HAVE SEEN THE RESULT OF THAT.

IF YOU HAVE ATTENDED LUNCH AND LEARNS, WE OFTENTIMES WILL PROVIDE A GIFT -- LET'S SAY WE DO A LUNCHEON ON DENTAL HEALTH.

YOU MIGHT GET A WATER PICK FOR ATTENDING THAT PROGRAM.

AND LEARNING BETTER WAY TO TAKE CARE OF OURSELVES THAT WELLNESS MONEY COMES FROM UNITED HEALTHCARE AND PART OF THE CONTRACT WITH THEM. WE CAN USE IT TO PAY FOR AN EMPLOYEE ASSISTANCE PROGRAM. WHAT THAT IS IS A PROGRAM TO THAT PROVIDES MULTIPLE SERVICES AND INFORMATION TO OUR EMPLOYEES AND OUR FAMILY MEMBERS. SO THE NUMBER ONE USE OF AN EMPLOYEE ASSISTANCE PROGRAM IS PROBABLY MENTAL HEALTH COUNSELING. SO THE PROGRAM PROVIDES FIVE COUNSELING SESSIONS. USUALLY -- OR IN THE PAST FEW YEARS, OF COURSE, THEY HAVE BEEN TELEPHONIC OR TELE VISIT COUNSELING. IF YOU ARE IN NEED OF ADDITIONAL COUNSELING PAST THAT FIVE IT, THEN THEY WORK WITH YOU TO ALIGN A PROVIDER THAT IS COVERED OR IS A PROVIDER WITH OUR UNITED HEALTHCARE INSURANCE PLAN. SOMETIMES WE NEED A FEW OF THOSE SESSIONS AND WORK THROUGH WHATEVER IS GOING ON.

OTHER INTERESTING SOURCES. WE GET A NEWSLETTER.

A NEWSLETTER ON THE E-MAIL THIS MORNING.

A MONTHLY NEWSLETTER WITH A VARIETY OF TOPICS RNOT JUST HOW TO DEAL WITH THINGS THAT WORK BUT OUR FINANCES, LEGAL ISSUES, FAMILY RELATIONSHIP ISSUES. SO JUST A MYRIAD OF TOPICS THAT THE NEWSLETTER COVERS. THERE IS A NEWSLETTER THAT GOES DIRECTLY TO SUPERVISORS HERE AT THE COUNTY THAT DEAL WITH TOPICS THAT WE MIGHT BE DEALING WITH AS A SUPERVISOR.

THE OTHER RESOURCES FROM DEER OAKS IS THE NAME OF OUR EMPLOYEE ASSISTANCE PROGRAM. UNWIND.

MANY ARTICLES, MANY RESOURCES FOR INFORMATION.

THERE IS A WAY TO COLLECT WITH NOLO AND ESTABLISH YOUR OWN WILL AND OTHER LEGAL DOCUMENTS SO YOU CAN DO THAT ON YOUR OWN IF THAT IS A SIMPLIFIED THING FOR YOU. IF YOU HAVE A COMPLEX FAMILY SITUATION, THEN IT IS ONLY GOING TO HELP YOU TO GET SO FAR.

OTHER INFORMATION PROVIDED, FINANCES LOANS, HOW TO GET OUT OF DEBT. ALL OF THOSE FINANCIAL RELATED.

HOW TO MAKE MY PAYCHECK LAST LONGER AND THOSE TYPE OF THINGS, BUDGETING, FINANCIAL PLANNING. RIGHT NOW I AM LOST FOR OTHER

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TOPICS. GREAT RESOURCES YOU CAN ACCESS ONLINE. ONE OTHER COOL BENEFIT THAT I DON'T KNOW A LOT OF PEOPLE KNOW ABOUT, OUT OUR PICK PROGRAM GIVES YOU ONE FREE UBER RIDE A YEAR.

USE IT WISELY. >>JUDGE BECERRA: IS IT A ROUND

TRIP? >> YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE IN ANY CONDITION TO USE IT. YOU COULD BE WITHOUT A CAR.

>>JUDGE BECERRA: ONE-WAY RIDE OR ROUND TRIP.

>> ONE-WAY. >>COMMISSIONER SMITH: THE IMPORTANT POINT IS THE PURPOSE TO REDUCE OUR OVERALL HEALTH

CARE COST. >> ABSOLUTELY.

>>COMMISSIONER SMITH: PREVENTIVE PRESSURE THAT HELPS SAVE MONEY ON THE BACK END IF OUR EMPLOYEES TAKE ADVANTAGE OF IT.

>> ABSOLUTELY 37 IF WE CAN GIVE INFORMATION THAT CAN HELPING US WHATEVER SITUATION IS GOING ON. A FEW COUNSELING SESSIONS OR JUST AN INTRODUCTORY PROGRAM TO A LENGTHIER COUNSELING PROGRAM.

IF WE NEED LEGAL -- EVEN LEGAL ADVICE, QUICK LEGAL ADVICE REFERENCES FOR ATTORNEYS TO HELP WITH US QUICK INFORMATION AND YOU PROCEED WITH WHATEVER YOUR SITUATION IS.

JUDGE MISS MISSION MILLER, THANK YOU FOR GIVING US HIGHLIGHTS OF THIS MAGNIFICENT PROGRAM YOU HELP OVERSEE.

I WILL SAYS IT IMPORTANT FOR US AS A COMMUNITY TO SUPPORT ONE ANOTHER IN EVERY WAY WE CAN HELP EACH OTHER GROW.

AND -- SORRY -- IT IS LIKE SAYING AN OLDER PERSON FELL AND THEN BROKE THEIR HIP. IT IS LIKE, WELL, WHAT WAS IT -- NO, THEY BROKE THEIR HIP AND THEN THEY FELL.

SO VERY OFTEN IT IS UNDERSTANDING, IN MOST CASES, HOW WE CAN PREVENT SOMETHING, WHAT WE CAN DO.

SO THESE ARE ALL THINGS YOU MENTIONED THAT ARE SO NEEDED IN OUR COMMUNITY. SO I AM JUST GRATEFUL THAT YOU CAN RATTLE THEM OFF THE TOP OF YOUR HEAD.

SHOWS A LEVEL OF COMMITMENT I AM APPRECIATIVE OF.

I KNOW THE COURT FEELS THE SAME WAY.

>> OUR PROCLAMATION THIS MORNING ON NATIONAL SUICIDE PREVENTION AND ACTION MONTH ALLIANCE WITH OUR EMPLOYEE ASSISTANCE PROGRAM.

THE PROGRAM, JUST TO REITERATE IS OURSELVES AS EMPLOYEES AND OUR FAMILY MEMBERS. WHETHER -- HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH OUR HEALTH INSURANCE. IF THEY HAVE A FAMILY MEMBER THAT IS IN NEED, THEY ARE ABLE TO USE OUR ASSISTANCE PROGRAM.

THOSE WHO LEAVE COUNTY EMPLOYMENT CAN CONTINUE THE USE OF THE PROGRAM OF SIX MONTHS AFTER THEY ARE NO LONGER

EMPLOYED. >>JUDGE BECERRA: WONDERFUL.

ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONERS?

>>COMMISSIONER INGALSBE: THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THIS TO OUR ATTENTION. I FORGOTTEN SO MANY GREAT RESOURCES AND SERVICES THAT THIS PROGRAM PROVIDED AND THE PREVENTIVE, YOU KNOW, IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT AND WILL HELP US SAVE ON THE BACK END AS COMMISSIONERS COURT.

>> MIGHT BE A GOOD THING THAT WE ARE HERE TODAY TO CONTINUE FOR

ONE MORE YEAR WITH THIS COMPANY. >>JUDGE BECERRA: JUST IN CASE YOU CAN'T HAER IT, $1.25 PER EMPLOYEE PER MONTH.

SO THANK YOU MISS MILLER. PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

>>COMMISSIONER INGALSBE: YES. >>COMMISSIONER SMITH: YES.

[G14. Accept the delivery of the Internal Examination reports for the Fiscal Year 2022 District Attorney Chapter 59, Justice of the Peace Precinct 2 Office, Constable Precinct 4 Office, and the Constable Precinct 5 Office. VILLARREAL- ALONZO]

>>COMMISSIONER COHEN: YES. >>COMMISSIONER SHELL: YES.

>>JUDGE BECERRA: YES. OPEN G-14 PLEASE.

>> G-14, ACCEPT THE DELIVERY OF INTERNAL EXAMINATION REPORTS OF THE FISCAL YEAR 2022 DISTRICT ATTORNEY CHAPTER 59 JUSTICE OF THE PEACE PRECINCT 2 OFFICE, CONSTABLE PRECINCT OFFICE AND

THE CONSTABLE PRECINCT 5 OFFICE. >> SO MOVED.

>> SECOND. >>JUDGE BECERRA: MR. DAN LYON AND SEE UP TO SPEAK ON THAT AGENDA ITEM.

>> THIS IS G-14, CORRECT? >>JUDGE BECERRA: YES, SIR.

>> OKAY. AND I AM -- I AM HOPING I AM GOING TO BE ON THE RIGHT THING HERE.

BUT ANYWAY, I HAVE GOT A LETTER FROM MARISOL VILLARREAL-ALONZO TO THE HONORABLE CRIMINAL ATTORNEY AND I HOPE I AM ON THE RIGHT THING HERE. SAYS IN ACCORDANCE WITH SUBSECTIONS 115.0035 OF TEXAS LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE AND ARTICLE 5906 OF THE TEXAS CODE, AUDITOR'S OFFICE PERFORMED AN INTERNAL EXAMINATION OF THE RECORDS OF THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S FORFEITURE FUND AND THE ATTACHED ANNUAL CODE CHAPTER 59 AS A FORFEITURE REPORT SEPTEMBER 2021 TO AUGUST 31, 2022. AND REVIEWING DEPOSITS, DISBURSEMENTS AND OTHER SUPPORTING DOCUMENTATION AND THEN GOES ON TO RECOMMEND THINGS.

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NUMBER ONE, TRUST ACCOUNT, LACK OF SEGREGATION OF DUTIES.

AUDITOR'S OFFICE NOTED THAT THE LEGAL SERVICES PREPARES DISBURSEMENTS, RECONCILES THE BANK STATEMENT AND I DON'T KNOW SIGNOR OR SIGNER ON THE CHAPTER 59 SEIZED PROPERTY BANK ACCOUNT.

ALSO A RECOMMENDATION HERE, HAYS COUNTY AUDITOR'S OFFICE OF PREVENTIVE INTERNAL CONTROLS THAT ESTABLISH SECOND DEGREE GREGATION OF DUTIES OF INITIAL KWLAGS OF TRANSACTIONS.

HAYS COUNTY AUDITOR'S OFFICE RECOMMENDS REMOVING THE LEGAL SERVICE ADMINISTRATOR AS AN AUTHORIZED ONCE AGAIN SIGNER OR SIGNOR ON THE BANK ACCOUNT. WHAT I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH.

I AM NOT GOING TO HAVE ENOUGH TIME TO READ THROUGH ALL OF THIS. THERE WERE FOUR VEHICLES THAT HAD DIFFERENT VEHICLE IDENTIFICATION NUMBERS ON TAMPA THAN WHAT WAS ESTABLISHED BY THE AUDITOR.

AND ALSO THE PROCEDURES THAT I DESCRIBED WHERE SHE RECOMMENDATION THE SEGREGATION OF DUTIES.

SHOULD WE DO AN INVESTIGATION OF THE D.A.'S OFFICE AND GO BACK AND SEE WHAT HAS BEEN GOING ON THERE.

BECAUSE SOMETHING DOESN'T REALLY SOUND RIGHT HERE, BUT I WILL LEAVE YOU ALL TO DECIDE THAT. THANK YOU.

>>JUDGE BECERRA: THANK YOU, MR. LYON.

I THINK THAT WOULD BE A GOOD QUESTION FOR OUR AUDITOR.

>> THIS ITEM IS THE DELIVERY OF THE INTERNAL EXAMINATIONS.

WE ACTUALLY COMPLETED IN AUDIT BACK IN DECEMBER AS PART OF OUR EXIT WITH OUR DEPARTING DISTRICT ATTORNEY WES MAL.

WITH THE VEHICLE VIN NUMBERS, THEY WERE JUST TYPO IN THE ORDER THAT WERE REVIEWED SO WE ASKED THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE TO MAKE THE CHANGE. I BELIEVE THAT IS CALLED A -- WHERE THEY GO IN AND CHANGE THE ORDER TO REFLECT THE VIN NUMBERS. WE WENT OUT AND PHYSICALLY INSPECT THE VIN NUMBERS AND TIE THEM BACK TO THE COURT ORDERS FOR THE FORFEITED ASSET AND WE FOUND IT WAS OFF BY SOME NUMBERS. THOSE, YOU KNOW, CARS ARE BEING TAKEN IN BY OFFICERS. SO THEY ARE WRITING DOWN THE NUMBERS. SO WE -- OUR RECOMMENDATION IS THAT WE JUST BE A LITTLE MORE ACCURATE WITH WRITING DOWN THE INCH SO THAT THE ACTUAL ORDERS THAT ARE PREPARED IN THE ATTORNEY'S OFFICE REFLECT AN ACCURATE VIN NUMBER.

WE FIND THERE IS NOT A SEGREGATION OF DUTY BECAUSE OF PERSONNEL CONSTRAINTS. ONE ADMINISTRATIVE INDIVIDUALS WHO IS HANDLING THE ACTUAL TAKING IN OF THE MAIL RECEIPTS, DOING THE DEPOSIT. WE HAVE TO NOTIFY THE COUNTY COMMISSIONERS AND THE -- AND THE DISTRICT JUDGES THAT THERE IS SOME SEGREGATION OF DUTIES THAT COULD BE -- THERE IS A HIGHER RISK FOR ANYTHING, YOU KNOW, THAT COULD HAPPEN WITH THE FUNDS. WE NOTIFY THE DEPARTMENT HEAD AND COMMISSIONERS THROUGH THE REPORT THAT THERE COULD BE ROOM FOR IMPROVEMENT IN SEGREGATION OF DUTIES.

SOME DEPARTMENT HEADS MAY BE ABLE TO IMPLEMENT OTHER CONTROLS SUCH AS SUPERVISORY REVIEW. THAT IS ALWAYS A CONTROL THAT WILL HELP MITIGATE THE RISK TO HAVE SOMEONE ELSE REVIEW THE DEPOSITS OR WHAT IS BEING CREATED.

AND THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY DID IMPLEMENT THOSE ADDITIONAL CON CONTROLS.

WE HAVE A NEW TORONTO NOW AND WE WORKED WITH HIM AND THEY ARE WELL AWARE OF SEGREGATION OF DUTIES AND THEY HAVE THE APPROPRIATE SIGNERS ON THE CHECKS AS WELL.

>>JUDGE BECERRA: GREAT. COMMISSIONERS, ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? OKAY.

>>COMMISSIONER SMITH: THANK MARISOL'S OFFICE FOR CATCHING THESE THINGS AND LOOKING AT EVERYTHING AND BROUGHT THINGS THAT NEED TO BE BROUGHT TO OTHERS' ATTENTION.

>>COMMISSIONER SMITH: YES HENTZ COHEN YES.

[G15. Authorize the execution of an Engagement Letter with ABIP, PC for services related to the Fiscal Year 2023 Hays County SOC 1 Audit. INGALSBE/O'KANE]

>>COMMISSIONER SHELL: YES. >>COMMISSIONER INGALSBE: YES.

>>JUDGE BECERRA: YES. G-15 PLEASE.

>>G-15, AUTHORIZE THE EXECUTION OF ENGAGEMENT LETTER WIT ABIP, PC FOR THE FISCAL YEAR 2023 HAYS COUNTY SOC 1 AUDIT.

>> SO MOVED. SECOND.

>>JUDGE BECERRA: COMMISSIONER INGALSBE?

>>COMMISSIONER INGALSBE: JUDGE AND JENNIFER KANE ASKED IF SHE NEEDED TO BE HERE? I TOLD HER I DIDN'T BELIEVE THAT WAS NECESSARY. A SERVICE WE APPROVE EVERY YEAR.

>> YES. THIS IS OUR FIRST YEAR GOING THROUGH A SOC 1 AUDIT. WHAT SOC 1 AUDIT IS THE AUDIT OF

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THE INTERNAL CONTROLS OF THE TAX OFFICE.

THE TAX OFFICE COLLECTING ON BEHALF OF OTHER AGENCIES AND IN THAT TYPE OF ENVIRONMENT, SOME LARGER TAX OFFICES PREPARE AN INDEPENDENT AUDITING FIRM TO COME IN AND DO A REVIEW OF THE AUDITING CONTROLS. THIS IS THE FIRST YEAR WE ARE GOING THROUGH A SOC 1 AUDIT. IT WAS PART OF OUR PROPOSAL WITH THE AUDIT -- OUR COUNTY REGULAR AUDIT.

THE SAME FIRM WILL BE PREPARING IT; HOWEVER, THE FIRM THAT SPECIALIZES IN SOC AUDITS ARE OUT OF THE HOUSTON OFFICE AND NEW PARTNERS TO CONTROL IN THE TAX OFFICE.

THIS IS A GOOD TIME. WE ARE A GROWING POPULATION AND WITH THAT ARE, WE HAVE A LOT MORE TRANSACTIONS THAT ARE LOCATED AND BEING HAPPENING AND DIFFERENT TAX OFFICES AROUND THE COUNTY AND MAKE SURE THAT OUR CONTROLS ARE IN PLACE.

THIS HAS ALREADY BEEN BID ON OR GONE THROUGH PROPOSAL TWO YEARS AGO. AND SO THE FIRST TIME WE ARE DOING THE SOC 1 AUDITS. WE ARE AT A GOOD POINT WE HAVE CONTROLS IN PLACE AND WE WANT TO DO A BASELINE REVIEW OF INTERNAL CONTROLS AND WHEN WE HAVE CHANGES IN THE TAX OFFICE, WE HAVE THAT BASELINE TO GRADE OURSELVES TO THE CONTROLS IN THE TAX OFFICE NOT ONLY FOR THE COUNTY'S BEHALF BUT THE OTHER AGENCIES WE ARE COLLECTING FUNDS FOR.

>>JUDGE BECERRA: HOW MUCH WORK WOULD IT BE TO ADD THE TREASURER'S OFFICE TO THIS EFFORT BECAUSE SOUNDS LIKE WHAT SHE WANTED AND WE DIDN'T GET TO GET THERE.

>> WELL, JUDGE, THAT IS SOMETHING THAT SOMETHING THAT ALL THE COMMISSIONERS TOGETHER WILL HAVE TO COME TO A CONCLUSION ON AND A PROCEDURE FOR THAT.

>>JUDGE BECERRA: COMMISSIONER INGALSBE, WILL YOU GUYS FEEL

COMFORTABLE ADDING -- >>COMMISSIONER SMITH: I DON'T THINK IT HAS TO BE. IF YOU READ THE CONTRACT IT IS WHO IS DIRECTING THEIR SERVICES. THEY CAN LITERALLY AUDIT AT THE DIRECTION OF THE COURT ANY OFFICE WITHIN THE COUNTY.

SO WE WOULDN'T HAVE TO ADD ADDITIONAL OFFICES.

AND TUCKER, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, IF I AM READING THAT INCORRECTLY, BUT STATES THAT THE DIRECTOR, OR THE TWO DIVISIONS THAT ARE IN CHARGE OF DIRECTING THAT AUDIT, OFFICE OF GENERAL COUNSEL TO THE CIVIL DIVISION AND WHOM ELSE, I AM SORRY? I DON'T HAVE IT IN FRONT OF ME. I READ IT YESTERDAY.

>> THAT'S CORRECT. NOT A PREREQUISITE.

>>COMMISSIONER SMITH: THEY CAN DO ANY OFFICE.

>>JUDGE BECERRA: BEAUTIFUL THINKING, COMMISSIONER.

THAT IS VERY WONDERFUL. I WANT TO SEE, TUCKER, IF YOU CAN HELP US TO PUT OUT THIS IDEA TO JUST EXTINGUISH THIS AND ADD

THE TREASURER'S OFFICE TO THIS. >> IF I CAN SAY SOMETHING, JUDGE. THIS ENGAGEMENT LETTER IS FOR THE TAXING OFFICE AND THE PRICING IN THERE.

I AM CONDUCTING OUR EXIT AUDIT, AND WE ARE REALLY CLOSE TO BRINGING THE REPORT BEFORE THE COMMISSIONERS COURT.

WE ARE WORKING WITH THE TREASURER'S OFFICE IN FINALIZING FINAL BALANCES TO SIGN OFF ON AND SEE THE REPORT FROM OUR OFFICE THAT SHOWS THE WEAKNESSES AND INTERNAL CONTROL FOR THE CURRENT STAFF. THE PREVIOUS ADMINISTRATION.

NOW BRINGS IN THE EXTERNAL AUDITOR TO COME IN AND AUDIT THE TREASURER, THEY WILL WANT TO LOOK AT THE LAST YEAR WHICH IS OUR CURRENT TREASURER AND I THINK WE ARE WORKING WITH OUR CURRENT TREASURE REMEMBER TO GET CONTROL IN PLACE.

SHE HAD SOME TURN{SUFFIX}OVER IN HER STAFF AND OTHER INDIVIDUALS PERFORMING DUTIES. SHE PRESENT TO ME CHANGES THAT ARE HAPPENING IN HER OFFICE, BUT I HAVEN'T HAD A CHANCE TO GO IN AND DO A COMPLETE INTERNAL CNTROL OF THE CURRENT TREASURER'S OFFICE BEFORE WE BRING IN EXTERNAL AUDITORS, I WOULD LIKE THE OPPORTUNITY SIT WITH HER AND RECOMMEND IMPROVEMENTS FOR HER CURRENT ADMINISTRATION IN THE OFFICE.

>>JUDGE BECERRA: SO I LOVE THAT. AND I APPRECIATE THAT WHOLEHEARTEDLY, BUT WE ARE 90 DAYS AWAY FROM FINISHING HER FIRST YEAR AND WE HAVE NOT COMPLETED THIS.

I AM JUST WONDER GOING THIS WOULDN'T BE A HELP TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE THINGS TIDY AND BE DONE WITH IT IN A SUPPORTIVE WAY.

>> I KNOW SHE AND HERSELF HAVE BEEN WORKING HARD TO GET REPORTS OUT TO ME FOR SIGNING FOR THE INVESTMENT REPORT.

AND IT WE ARE WORKING LOTS AND LOTS OF HOURS TO GET THAT DONE.

MY STAFF IS MEETING WITH HER STAFF THIS MORNING TO COME WITH A CONSENSUS ON THE FINAL BAL BALANCES. SHE IS WORKING TO GET THE INVESTMENT REPORTS IN. THEY HAVEN'T COME TO COURT AND WE ARE FOCUSED ON BRINGING OUR ATTENTION TO THAT.

BRINGING SOMEONE EXTERNAL WHEN WE ARE STILL WORKING ON THINGS.

OUR PREFERENCE IS THAT WE TRY TO FINALIZE THOSE REPORTS AND MY REPORT AND THEN IF SHE STILL WANTS TO BRING SOMEONE IN, WE

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LOOK AT THAT. BUT AS FAR AS THE PRIOR ADMINISTRATION, THAT REPORT WILL BE COMING SOON.

>> I ALSO -- STEPHANIE HUNT, FIRST ASSISTANT AUDITOR.

WE WENT OUT FOR PROPOSALS, FINANCIAL STATEMENTS FOR THE COUNTY JUVENILE PREVENTION BOARD AND THE SOC OFFICE FOR THE TAX OPTION. IF WE WANT TO DO SOMETHING LIKE WHAT YOU ARE ASKING, WE WOULD HAVE TO GO BACK AND DO THE CONTRACT AMENDMENT BECAUSE THAT WASN'T IN THE ORIGINAL CONTRACT

WHAT WE ASKED FOR. >>JUDGE BECERRA: THANK YOU.

I APPRECIATE THAT. OKAY.

COMMISSIONER INGALSBE. >>COMMISSIONER INGALSBE: WE CAN ALWAYS BRING AN AMENDMENT BACK LATER AFTER THAT YEAR REVIEW AND REPORTS ARE DONE AND HAVE THAT ADDED.

>>JUDGE BECERRA: HAVE THIS BUTTONED DOWN AND UNIFORM AND CONSISTENT COUNTYWIDE THROUGH ALL DEPARTMENTS.

I THINK THAT IS THE MOST BENIGN APPROACH IN MY OPINION AS WELL.

IF NOTHING ELSE, MS. CALL THE ROLL.

>>COMMISSIONER COHEN: YES. >>COMMISSIONER SHELL: YES.

[G16. Authorize the submission of a grant application to the National Rifle Association (NRA), NRA Foundation Grant in the amount of $1,430.00. SMITH/T.CRUMLEY]

>>COMMISSIONER INGALSBE: YES. >>COMMISSIONER SMITH: YES.

>>JUDGE BECERRA: YES G-16, PLEASE.

>>G-16, AUTHORIZE THE SUBMISSION OF GRANT APPLICATION TO THE NATIONAL RIFLE ASSOCIATION, NRA FOUNDATION GRANT IN THE AMOUNT

OF $1430. >>COMMISSIONER SMITH: SO MOVED.

>>COMMISSIONER SHELL: SECOND. >>COMMISSIONER SMITH: THE SAME GRANT WE HAD OVER A DOZEN YEARS NOW SIMPLY FOR TRAIN AMMUNITION FOR OUR SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT. HE HAD THE EARLIER DISCUSSION EARLIER IN MARCH FOR A SIMILAR GROWTH.

THIS IS APPLICATION TO PROVIDE DIRECT TRAINING AMMUNITION TO OUR -- TO OUR SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT.

AND IN THE PAST, IF YOU WOULD READ THE APPLICATION ATTACHED AS PART OF THE PACK GROUND. YOU CAN SEE A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT GROUPS, EVERYTHING FROM YOUTH SHOOTING SPORTS ORGANIZATIONS TO LAW ENFORCEMENT ENTITIES HAVE RECEIVED THIS GRANT FUNDING IN THE PAST. AND THAT -- THE AUDITOR'S OFFICE MAY KNOW OR TAMMY, HOW MANY YEARS IN A ROW HAVE WE RECEIVED THIS GRANT? ANY CLUE?

A NUMBER. >> THIS IS JUST OUR SECOND YEAR

TO GET THIS PARTICULAR GRANT. >>COMMISSIONER SMITH: THIS

PARTICULAR ONE, OKAY. >> WE HAVE RECEIVED OTHER GRANTS FOR AMMUNITION BUT FROM THE NRA OUR SECOND YEAR.

>>JUDGE BECERRA: COMMISSIONER INGALSBE, COHEN, SHELL, I CAN ELSE? JUST TO MAKE SURE FOLKS KNOW IF WE DON'T ACCEPT THIS GRANT, IT DOESN'T TAKE ANYTHING AWAY FROM LAW ENFORCEMENT. THEY ARE FULLY SUPPORTED AND FUNDED. AND WE ARE NOT SHORT ON

ANYTHING. >>COMMISSIONER INGALSBE: JUDGE, I WILL MENTION THAT I AM NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO SUPPORT THIS TO TODAY.

YEAH. BY UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, THAT IT'S MONEY THAT WE WOULDN'T OTHERWISE HAVE TO SPEND, YOU KNOW, FOR THE COUNTY TO PROVIDE THIS TYPE OF AMMUNITION FOR THEM. AND I -- YOU KNOW, I HAVE BEEN SUPPORTIVE IN THE PAST, BUT I AM GOING TO NOT BE SUPPORTIVE

TODAY. >>COMMISSIONER SMITH: HE CAN APPRECIATE THAT, COMMISSIONER. AND I -- I THINK I HAD THIS CONVERSATION LAST TIME. WELL, WE HAVE HEARD THE CONVERSATION AND THE DISCUSSION IN THE PAST.

THE FACT IS THAT I VIEW THIS VERY MUCH AS IF THE CRUISERS THAT WE GET FOR OUR SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT, IF FORD LOOKED AT US AND SAID WE ARE GOING TO GIVE YOU A CRUISER BUT OUR VEHICLES KILLED HALF A MILLION PEOPLE LAST YEAR BUT WE ARE A MANUFACTURER OF VEHICLES AND THAT IS WHAT WE DO AND WE WANT TO GIVE YOU SOME, I DON'T THINK WE WOULD TURN DOWN THAT CRUISER.

VERY MUCH THIS IS A SUPPLY ISSUE.

AND AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE CAN EACH HAVE OUR OWN JUDGMENT CALLS AND OWN FEELINGS WHETHER OR NOT WE CAN ACCEPT THIS.

I VIEW THIS AS A WAY TO SAVE TAXPAYER MONEY.

AND AT THE END OF THE DAY, IF YOU DON'T AGREE WITH THAT, I COMPLETELY RESPECT THAT, COMMI COMMISSIONER. ANSWER, MY VIEW AND I CAN COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND AND APPRECIATE.

>>COMMISSIONER INGALSBE: YES, BUT THAT IS NOT EXACTLY CORRECT.

IF I DON'T -- IF I DON'T SUPPORT THIS, NOT THAT I DON'T WANT TO

SAVE TAXPAYER MONEY. >>COMMISSIONER SMITH: I COMPLETELY AGREE WITH YOU. COMPLETELY AGREE WITH YOU.

LIKE I SAID, THAT IS MY VIEW. MY VIEW ONLY.

>>JUDGE BECERRA: SINCE YOU BROUGHT THOSE POINTS UP, I AM WITH YOU, COMMISSIONER INGALSBE. SAVING TAXPAYER DOLLARS IS ALWAYS A PRIORITY TO US. AND SUPPLY ISSUE WAS JUST MENTIONED. AND WE DON'T HAVE SUPPLY ISSUES AT THIS TIME. AND THE EXAMPLE THAT WAS GIVEN BY FORD, I THINK, GIVING VEHICLES A CRUISER WOULD BE

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SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT BECAUSE FORD IS NOT TRYING TO INFLUENCE POLICY IN A WAY THAT IS DIVISIVE AND -- WELL, ENOUGH SAID.

IF NOTHING ELSE, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

>>COMMISSIONER SHELL: YES. >>COMMISSIONER INGALSBE: NO.

>>COMMISSIONER SMITH: YES. >>COMMISSIONER COHEN: NO.

[Items G17 - G19 & G22]

>>JUDGE BECERRA: NO. PLEASE OPEN G-17-22.

>>G-17, AUTHORIZE THE ACCEPTANCE OF GRANT AWARD FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE, BUREAU OF JUSTICE ASSISTANCE, STATE CRIMINAL ALIEN ASSISTANCE PROGRAM IN THE AMOUNT OF $140,544. G-18, AUTHORIZE THE ACCEPTANCE OF GRANT AWARD FROM THE OFFICE OF ATTORNEY GENERAL, STATEWIDE AUTOMATED VICTIM NOTIFICATION SERVICES, GRANT PROGRAM IN THE AMOUNT OF $30,285.26. G-19, APPROVE THE AMENDED PROPERTY USE POLICY. G-20, APPROVE THE HART INTERCIVIC REPAIR ESTIMATE IN THE AMOUNT OF 4,000 FOR FIVE DUO TOUCH, TWO CONTROLLER AND ONE DUO GO NO LONGER UNDER WARRANTY AND AUTHORIZE DISCRETIONARY EX-E PURSUANT TO SCHENECTADY CODE 262.02A-7-D AND I AMEND THE BUDGET ACCORDINGLY.

G- 1, AUTHORIZE REIMBURSEMENT OF TRAVEL EXPENSES RELATED TO THE ANIMAL ADVISORY COMMITTEE SHARRI BOYETT ATTENDANCE TO THE 2023 BEST FRIENDS NATIONAL CONFERENCE IN HOUSTON, TEXAS.

IN G-22, AUTHORIZE PAYMENT TO INTERSTATE TOWING IN THE AMOUNT OF $500 IN THE TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT RELATED TO THE TOWING OF A COUNTY VEHICLE WITH NO PURCHASE ORDER WAS ISSUED.

>> SO MOVED. >> SECOND.

>>COMMISSIONER SMITH: I WOULD LIKE TO CARVE OUT 21 AND HAVE A

SEPARATE CONVERSATION, PLEASE. >>COMMISSIONER SHELL: I HAVE

GENERAL COMMENTS ON. >>JUDGE BECERRA: YES, SIR.

>>COMMISSIONER SHELL: MAYBE A WAY -- I WAS NOTICING THAT SOME OF THESE -- THE PARKS HAVE CHANGED PRECINCTS.

MAYBE IT WOULD BE BEST TO HAVE ANYTHING THAT IS PRECINCT-SPECIFIC TO SAY THE COMMISSIONER OF THE PRECINCT THAT -- OF THIS INSTEAD OF EVEN PUTTING PRECINCT 3 LIKE FOR -- FOR PRESIDENT PARK. INSTEAD OF SAYING COMMISSIONER PRECINCT 3 OR MY NAME. COMMISSIONER IN WHICH THE PARK

RESIDES OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. >>JUDGE BECERRA: A GREAT IDEA.

TO MAKE AGREER IN RICK OF THE DISTRICT'S OFFICE.

>>COMMISSIONER SHELL: IF REDISTRICTING CHANGES.

>> IT CAN BE DONE. WE CAN AMEND IT TO SAY JUST.

>>COMMISSIONER INGALSBE: IS THAT THE EXTENT OF THE AMENDMENTS? I WAS WONDERING. WHEN I LOOKED UP AND THERE WAS ONE DOCUMENT THAT SAID "RED LINE." ON MY END IT DIDN'T SHOW ANYTHING.

I WAS WONDER WHAT OTHER -- >>COMMISSIONER SMITH: YOU ARE

CORRECT, I HAD THE SAME COMMENT. >> WHAT SPECIFICALLY WAS YOUR QUESTION? DOES IT INCORPORATE ALL OF THE

REVISIONS? >>COMMISSIONER INGALSBE: NO, WHAT AMENDMENT WAS MADE TO THE DOCUMENT BECAUSE I DIDN'T HAVE A RED RED-LINE.

>>JUDGE BECERRA: THE ORIGINAL AND RED LINE.

>>COMMISSIONER SMITH: THE RED LINE DID NOT APPEAR AS A RED

LINE IF YOU OPEN THE DOCUMENT. >> THEN WE CAN PROVIDE THAT.

YOUR OFFICE CAN PROVIDE THAT TO ALL THE COMMISSIONERS, BUT IT MIGHT BE TYPICAL NOW UNDERSTANDABLY NOT HERE AS BACK-UP HAVING TO LOOK AT THE CURRENT ONE AND THE NEW ONE AND

PARSE OUT -- >>COMMISSIONER INGALSBE: WERE THERE SUBSTANTIAL CHANGES OR -- IF NOT, THAT IS FINE.

I JUST WANTED -- >> IN MY OPINION, THERE WERE

NOT. >>COMMISSIONER INGALSBE: OKAY.

>>JUDGE BECERRA: HOUSEKEEPING SEEMED TO BE WHAT IT WAS LIKE WHEN I READ OVER IT ALL. HOUSEKEEPING.

>>COMMISSIONER INGALSBE: THANK YOU.

>>JUDGE BECERRA: YES, NUMBER 21, COMMISSIONER.

>>COMMISSIONER SMITH: STILL HAVE TO VOTE ON THE OTHERS.

>>JUDGE BECERRA: YOU WANTED TO TALK ABOUT IT.

>>COMMISSIONER SMITH: I WANT SEPARATE VOTE.

CARVE IT OUT, IF POSSIBLE. >>JUDGE BECERRA: YOU GOT IT.

CALL THE ROLL ON ALL BUT 21. >>COMMISSIONER INGALSBE: YES.

>>COMMISSIONER SMITH: YES. >>COMMISSIONER COHEN: YES.

[G21. Authorize reimbursement of travel expenses related to Animal Advisory committee member, Sharri Boyett attendance to the 2023 Best Friends National Conference in Houston, Texas related to Animal Welfare and amend the budget accordingly. BECERRA]

>>COMMISSIONER SHELL: YES. >>JUDGE BECERRA: YES.

NOW WE HAVE 21 OPEN STILL, SO COMMISSIONER SMITH.

>>COMMISSIONER SMITH: THANK YOU, JUDGE.

I HAVE REAL CONCERNS OVER THIS ONE.

AND IT IS NOT BECAUSE OF NECESSARILY THE CONTENT OF DOING IT, JUST THE PROCESS TO DO IT. AND SOMEWHAT THE CONTENT.

THE REASON I SAY THAT IS BECAUSE WHEN WE LOOK AT EMPLOYEE TRAVEL SPECIFICALLY WHETHER THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT AND WHOEVER

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IN GENERAL, WE BRING THAT TO COURT PRIOR TO ANY TYPE OF ANY TYPE OF TRAVEL APPROVAL AND MORE IMPORTANTLY WE DO IT SPECIFICALLY FOR EDUCATION PURPOSES FOR THOSE INDIVIDUAL DEPARTMENTS IF YOU LOOK AT THE SEEKING REIMBURSEMENT.

WHENEVER WE TRY TO FIND ANYTHING REGARDING THIS WHEN IT AND ON THE AGENDA, THE ONLY REFERENCE WE COULD FIND IS A CAMPAIGN FACEBOOK POST. SO IF WE ARE -- IF WE ARE GOING TO PAY FOR A NONEMPLOYEE TO GO DO SOMETHING.

AND I SINCERELY APPRECIATE MISS BOYETT'S ASSISTANCE AS VOLUNTEER FOR THE COUNTY, WE DON'T -- AS FAR AS I KNOW, YOU MAY HAVE EXAMPLES, BUT I DON'T HAVE AN EXAMPLE OF HOW WE BACKFILLED AND PAID FOR A VOLUNTEER TO DO SOMETHING WITHOUT THE PRIOR APPROVAL OF THE COURT. BUT MORE.

HE SPECIFICALLY THAT NOT THAT THE ONLY REFERENCE TO IT I CAN FIND ONLINE IS A CAMPAIGN POST FROM A CANDIDATE FOR OFFICE, WHETHER IT BE MYSELF OR ANY OTHER MEMBERS OF THE COURT OR ANY OTHER ELECTED OFFICIALS. THAT IS THE CONCERN THAT I HAVE A. AND WE HAD THIS CONVERSATION A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO A SIMILAR CONVERSATION.

I WANT TO ENSURE THAT WE ARE NOT DOING THAT.

DOES THAT MAKE SENSE. >>JUDGE BECERRA: I AM NOT SURE HOW MUCH THIS ORGANIZATION PROMOTED THEIR EVENT.

I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH THEY PUBLICIZED BUT I HEAR YOU LOUD AND CLEAVER. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS?

>>COMMISSIONER SHELL: MY ONLY COMMENT WOULD BE THE -- OBVIOUSLY WHEN TRAVEL IS OUT OF STATE, WE HAVE TO APPROVE OUT-OF-STATE TRAVEL FOR OUR EMPLOYEES.

I THINK THE QUESTION THAT COMMISSIONER SMITH BRINGS UP IS WITH MISS BOYETT WHO IS A VOLUNTEER AND HAS BEEN WORK ON THIS PRETTY IN-DEPTH FOR SEVERAL YEARS NOW.

I THINK THE PROCESS WOULD TO BE BRING IT TO COURT PRIOR TO JUST LIKE AN OUT-OF-STATE TRIAL FOR VOLUNTEER IN THE FUTURE IF WE HAVE SOMEONE WHO IS A COMMITTEE MEMBER, APPOINTED MEMBER WHO WANTED TO TRAVEL AND BE REIM REIMB REIMBURSE.

>>JUDGE BECERRA: COMMISSIONER MAKES PERFECT SENSE.

BECAUSE VOLUNTEER TREAT IT AS AN EMPLOYEE GOING OUT OF STATE.

THE FIRST TIME IN MY OFFICE HAVE SUPPORTED A VOLUNTEER SUPPORTING AN ORGANIZATIONAL EFFORT. IT MAKES PERFECT SENSE.

POOL PROCEDURAL CHANGE. LOOKING AT ME.

YES, A PROCEDURAL CHANGE THAT WE CAN NOD ABOUT THAT WILL BE A GOOD IDEAROCEDURAL CHANGE. LOOKING AT ME.

YES, A PROCEDURAL CHANGE THAT WE CAN NOD ABOUT THAT WILL BE A

GOOD IDEA. >>COMMISSIONER SMITH: MY ONLY QUESTION THE MONEY, WHERE DID IT COME FROM IF WE ARE REIMBURSING FOR THAT. THE QUESTION SR. VICKI.

>> VICKI DORSETT, HAYS COUNTY BUDGET OFFICER.

THE RECOMMENDATION TO PULL THOSE FUNDS FROM COUNTYWIDE SO WE DON'T HAVE A BUDGET FOR TRAVEL FOR VOLUNTEERS.

BUT ALSO THE COUNTY JUDGE HAD SOME ADDITIONAL FUNDS IN HIS COMMUNITY PROGRAM FUND THAT CAN COVER THOSE SMITH I GUESS MY QUESTION IS, DID WE -- DID WE PAY FOR OUR EMPLOYEE TO GO.

AND IF SO, WHERE DID THAT MONEY COME FROM.

>> YES. THE CHIEF OF STAFF DID ATTEND PART OF THE COUNTY JUDGE'S CONTINUING EDUCATION BUDGET.

>>COMMISSIONER SMITH: PERFECT. THANK YOU.

>>JUDGE BECERRA: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS.

WE ALREADY HAVE A MOTION. >>COMMISSIONER SMITH: YES.

>>COMMISSIONER COHEN: YES. >>COMMISSIONER SHELL: YES.

>>COMMISSIONER INGALSBE: YES. >>JUDGE BECERRA: YES.

JUST FOR A RECAP OF ALL OF THAT THAT TOOK PLACE.

I WANT TO MAKE SURE THE COMMUNITY WATCHING UNDERSTANDS THAT MOVING FORWARD, VOLUNTEERS -- WE ARE MAKING A POLICY EDIT.

MOVING FORWARD, VOLUNTEERS TO BE REIMBURSED OR TO IT BE PAID FOR TRAVELING EVEN THOUGH IT IS IN STATE.

THE ASK IS THAT YOU BRING IT TO COURT BEFORE THE EVENT SO WE HAVE A CHANCE TO VOTE FOR IT BEFORE YOU GO.

THAT WILL BE AN EQUIVALENT AS COMMISSIONER SHELL SAYS, IF AN EMPLOYEE IS SEEKING OUT-OF-STATE TRAVEL.

GREAT SUGGESTION. COMMISSIONERS, ANYTHING SPECIFIC WOULD YOU LIKE TO POINT TO OR DO I KEEP MOVING? I-1, PLEASE. NEVER MIND.

[K10. Discussion and possible action to authorize additional funding for 8/31/23 to 9/30/23 paid interns for the County Courts atLaw and amend the budget accordingly. BECERRA/HALL]

SORRY, SORRY. A TINY DELAY.

LET'S GO TO K-10. >> K-10, DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO AUTHORIZE ADDITIONAL FUNDING FOR AUGUST 31, 2023 TO SEPTEMBER 30, 2023, PAID INTERNS FOR THE COUNTY COURT OF LAW AND

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AMEND THE BUDGET ACCORDINGLY. >> SO MOVED.

>> SECOND. >>JUDGE BECERRA: OF COURSE HOW WE HAVE A CONSTANT DANCE OF ELECTED OFFICIAL AND DEPARTMENT HEADS WALKING IN AND OUT AND COORDINATING THEIR AVAILABILITY AND OUR TIMING. I ASKED THE JUDGE TO SYNCHRONIZE FOR HIS ARRIVAL SO HE CAN HELP MOVE MORE EFFICIENTLY HE IS HERE

TO HIGHLIGHT. >> JIMMY HALL, HAYS COUNTY COURT HAYS NUMBER 1. THIS IS TO MOVE MONEY -- CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, VICKI -- FOR LEGAL EDUCATION FROM THE SECTION OVER TO THE INTERTERNSHIP PAR PART OF THE HAYS COMPANY BUDGET TO FUN THE INTERNS THAT WE SECURED FOR TEXAS STATE UNIVERSITY FOR THE BALANCE OF THIS FISCAL YEAR.

EDUCATION HAS BEEN PROVEN TO BE THE IN NUMBER ONE MEANS TO IMPROVE THE ECONOMY, HEALTH AND AS WELL AS REDUCE CRIME.

THIS IS PART OF MY EFFORT FOR YEARS.

I STARTED TAKING INTERNS TEXAS STATE IN 2006.

I HAD SOME FROM SOUTHWESTERN UNIVERSITY PRACTICING UP IN GEORGETOWN A LITTLE WHILE AND TWO OF THEM HAVE GONE ON TO BE ATTORNEYS VALUABLE ASSET TO THE COURT.

WHEN WE DON'T HAVE TIME TO DO RESEARCH, THEY ARE THERE TO DO THAT AND HELP PEOPLE US ORGANIZED.

ANOTHER PART OF THE TWO-WAY STREET IS EDUCATING THEM.

I TEACH THEM TO DO CRITICAL AN LITS CAL THINKING, AS WELL AS THE PRACTICAL PART OF HOW THE LAW WORKS.

SO THIS IS A -- THIS IS A FAIRLY MINOR ITEM, BUT I WANT TO BE HERE TODAY TO CHAMPION THE TEXAS STATE UNIVERSITY GRADUATE -- GREAT WAS STUDIES, LEGAL STUDIES PROGRAM IN THE GRADUATE SCHOOL.

AND THE HEAD OF THAT. HE HAS DONE A WONDERFUL JOB.

I TAUGHT THERE ONE SUMMER FOR HIM.

SO IT IS SOMETHING THAT I WANT TO BRING TO THE COURT'S ATTENTION TO MAKE SURE WHEN THERE ARE OPPORTUNITIES TO HAVE THESE INTERNS, THAT WE TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THEM.

>>JUDGE BECERRA: BEAUTIFUL. THANK YOU, JUDGE.

QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

>>COMMISSIONER COHEN: YES. >>COMMISSIONER SHELL: YES.

>>COMMISSIONER INGALSBE: YES. >>COMMISSIONER SMITH: YES.

>>JUDGE BECERRA: YES. COULD NOT BE MORE EFFICIENT THAN

[I1. Discussion and possible action to authorize the execution of Change Order No. 2 in the amount of ($58,334.78) to the Construction Contract with Aaron Concrete Contractors, LP for the Darden Hill Roundabout (IFB2023-B11) project as part of the Hays County Road Bond Program in Precinct 4. SMITH/BORCHERDING]

THAT. HAVE A WONDERFUL DAY.

GO CONTINUE TO ROADS IS WHERE WE WERE HEADED.

I-1 PLEASE. >> I-1, DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO AUTHORIZES THE EXECUTION OF CHANGE ORDER NUMBER 2 IN THE AMOUNT OF $58,334.78 TO THE CONSTRUCTION CONTRACT WITH AARON CONCRETE CONTRACTORS LP FOR THE DARDEN HILL ROUNDABOUT, IFB 2023-B 11 PROJECT AS PART OF HAYS COUNTY RAOD BOND PROGRAM.

>> SO MOVED. >> SECOND.

>>COMMISSIONER SMITH: THANK YOU, JUDGE.

TO INCORPORATE SOME CHANGES INTO THE ROUNDABOUT AND UP FORSEEN COST OR UNANTICIPATED COST FOR THE ROUNDABOUT FROM CYPRESS CREEK ELEMENTARY SCHOOL THAT BEGIN CONSTRUCTION AT THE DAY AFTER SCHOOL STARTED THIS YEAR. THE TRAFFIC PATTERN HAS MAINTAINED AS IT HAS THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS DURING CONSTRUCTION AND WE HAD TO DO QUITE A BIT OF MANEUVERING AS THE SCHOOL IS CONTINUING TO FNCTION AS IT HAS.

AND WE ANTICIPATE COMPLETION OF THE PROJECT.

SUBSTANTIAL COMPLETION. JERRY, ANYTHING MORE SPECIFIC

THAT YOU WANT TO ADD TO THAT. >> NO, YOU GOT IT COVERED.

>>JUDGE BECERRA: THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER FOR THE UPDATE.

>>COMMISSIONER SHELL: YES. >>COMMISSIONER INGALSBE: YES.

>>COMMISSIONER SMITH: YES. >>COMMISSIONER COHEN: YES.

[I2. Discussion and possible action to authorize the County Judge to execute a Contract Amendment with HDR Engineering,Inc. pursuant to the Professional Services Agreement for Robert S. Light Boulevard Signal Light Study. SMITH/BORCHERDING]

>>JUDGE BECERRA: YES. I-2, PLEASE.

>> I BE-2, DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO AUTHORIZE THE COUNTY JUDGE TO EXECUTE A CONTRACT AMENDED WITH HDR ENGINEERING, INC. PURSUANT TO THE PROFESSIONAL SERVICE AGREEMENT FOR ROBERT S. LIGHT BOULEVARD SIGNAL LIGHT STUDY.

>>COMMISSIONER SMITH: SO MOVED. >>COMMISSIONER SHELL: SECOND.

>>JUDGE BECERRA: COULDN'T COME QUICKER AND I AM RIGHT BEHIND

YOU. >>COMMISSIONER SMITH: NUMEROUS CONVERSATION WITH TXDOT AND THE CITY OF BUDO TO IMPROVE THE TRAFFIC SAFETY THERE. LOOKING AT SCIENCEAGE AND OTHER QUES QUESTIONS.

THEY COULD NOT BE MORE FORTUNATE TO JUMP ON THIS STUDY.

OTHER INFORMATION THAT THEY ARE LOOKING AT THEY ARE TRYING TO -- THE BEST WAY TO PUT IT TRYING TO GET THE BEST ENGINEERING AND THE MATERIALS AND EVERYTHING ELSE DONE AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE FOR THE SIGNALIZATION OF BOTH ENDS OF THAT NEW ROADWAY.

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IS THAT WAY TO TAKE CARE OF IT WHAT WOULD YOU ADD TO IT.

>> A FATALITY A WEEK AGO AND IMPORTANT THAT WE GET THIS WARRANT STUDY COMPLETED TO FIND OUT WHAT ACTION S ACTIONS TO MA

SAFER INTERSTATION. >>COMMISSIONER SMITH: I DON'T SAY WE ARE WAITING FOR OUR STATE.

WE ARE ALSO LOOKING A INTERIM MEASURE TO TRY TO IMPROVE SAFETY THERE. BOTH SIGNAGE AND THE POSSIBILITY OF ALWAYS STOPPED TO GET THAT SIGNALIZATION THAT WE ALL ANTICIPATE THE WILL COME THROUGH OUR PARTNERSHIP WITH THE STATE.

>>JUDGE BECERRA: BEAUTIFUL. PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

>>COMMISSIONER INGALSBE: YES. >>COMMISSIONER SMITH: YES.

>>COMMISSIONER COHEN: YES. >>COMMISSIONER SHELL: YES.

[I3. Discussion and possible action to authorize the County Judge to execute Contract Amendment No. 2 in the amount of $49,600.00 to the Professional Services Agreement for right-of-way acquisition services with LJA Engineering, Inc. for the Hillside Terrace Safety Improvements (IH 35 to FM 2001) project in Precinct 2. COHEN/BORCHERDING]

>>JUDGE BECERRA: I, TOO, YES. I-3.

>>I-3, DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO AUTHORIZE THE COUNTY JUDGE TO EXECUTE CONTRACT AMENDMENT NUMBER 2 IN THE AMOUNT OF $49,600 TO THE PROFESSIONAL SERVICES AGREEMENT FOR RIGHT-OF-WAY ACQUISITION SERVICE WITH LJA ENGINEERING INC. FOR THE HILLSIDE TERRACE SAFETY IMPROVEMENT IH 35 TO FM 2001.

PROJECT TO BE PRECINCT 2. >>COMMISSIONER COHEN: AMENDMENT FOR THE CONTINUED RIGHT-OF-WAY WORK ON HILLSIDE TERRACE THAT INCLUDES THE LAND PLANNING, ESTIMATING THE TRANSCRIBING AND INTERPRETING SERVICES. JERRY, I DON'T KNOW IF THERE IS ANYTHING ELSE YOU WANT TO ADD TO.

>> I THINK YOU COVERED IT JUST FINE.

>>JUDGE BECERRA: PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

>>COMMISSIONER SMITH: YES. >>COMMISSIONER COHEN: YES.

>>COMMISSIONER SHELL: YES. >>COMMISSIONER INGALSBE: YES.

[I4. Discussion and possible action to authorize the County Judge to execute a TIA Contribution Agreement related to Hymeadow Subdivision, Section 2, Phase 3, between Hays County and Clayton Properties Group Inc., dba Brohn Homes in the amount of $45,424.00. INGALSBE/BORCHERDING]

>>JUDGE BECERRA: YES I- PLEASE. >> I-4 HAD, DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO AUTHORIZE THE COUNTY JUDGE TO EXECUTE A TIA CONTRIBUTION AGREEMENT RELATED TO HYMEADOW SUBDIVISION SECTION 2, PHASE 3, BETWEEN HAYS AND CLAYTON PROPERTIES GROUP DOING BUSINESS AS BROHN HOMES IN THE AMOUNT OF $45,424.

>> MOTION. >> SECOND.

>>COMMISSIONER INGALSBE: JUDGE, THE TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS SHOW PER LOT CONTRIBUTION OF $ 34 TO BE SPENT ON TRAFFIC AND INSPECTION IMPROVEMENTS RELATED TO IT THE CONSTRUCTION AND BUILD OUT OF RY MEADOW SCAAP SUB DIVISION.

>>JUDGE BECERRA: THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER FOR SAYING HIGH IMPACT ANALYSIS. THE AVERAGE PERSON WHO GETS -- GET BOUNCED BACK UP BECAUSE THEY HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THAT IS.

THANK YOU. AS WE SHAPE THESE AGENDA ITEMS, I REALLY APPRECIATE WHEN THEY DON'T PUT JUST THE LETTERS AND INCLUDE DOLLARS AMOUNTS. MOST USEFUL AND THANK YOU FOR

POINTING THAT OUT. >>COMMISSIONER COHEN: YES.

>>COMMISSIONER SHELL: YES. >>COMMISSIONER INGALSBE: YES.

[I5. Discussion and possible action to approve the selection of Lockwood, Andrews and Newnam, Inc. (LAN) to provide engineering services for Old Stagecoach at Post Road Intersection project in Precinct 3; and authorize staff and counsel to negotiate a contract. SHELL/BORCHERDING]

>>COMMISSIONER SMITH: YES. >>JUDGE BECERRA: YES.

ITEM 5, PLEASE. >> I-5, DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO APPROVE THE SELECTION OF LOCK WOOD, ANDREWS AND NEWMAN, INC. LAN TO PROVIDE ENGINEERING SERVICES FOR OLD STAGECOACH AT POST ROAD INTERSECTION AND AUTHORIZE STAFF TO COUNSEL TO NEGOTIATE A CONTRACT.

>> SO MOVED. >> SECOND.

>>COMMISSIONER SMITH: JUDGE BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION AN ACCIDENT AT THAT INTERSECTION THAT ALSO CAUSED A FIRE.

I DON'T THINK THE COUNTY IS MAKING ANY IMPROVEMENT TO THAT INTERSECTION SINCE I WAS BORN. WE DID REBUILD THE BRIDGE AFTER THE FLOOD WHICH WAS A GREAT IMPROVEMENT OUT THERE, BUT THAT INTERSECTION NOW SERVES -- SERVING A PRETTY SUBSTANTIAL CITY-COUNTY PARK BEING THE SOCCER FIELD AND LARGE SUBDIVISION. I THINK IT IS TIME WE LOOK TO SEE IF THERE ARE ANY IMPROVEMENT DONE THERE.

>>JUDGE BECERRA: COMMISSIONER SHELL, I APPRECIATE YOUR SENSE OF YOU ARE AGAIN SEE AND CONCERN AND HAPPY TO SEE IT MOVE AS FAST. I DON'T APPRECIATE THE PACE THAT GOVERNMENT MOVES. NOT AS FAST FOR MY BLOOD.

I AM NOT SAYING THEY ARE MOVING SLOW, BUT THERE IS A PROCESS TO EVERYTHING. THANK YOU, AGAIN.

>>COMMISSIONER INGALSBE: JUDGE, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SAY -- I DON'T KNOW, JERRY, IF YOU HAVE ANY IDEAS HOW THAT IMPROVEMENT MIGHT HAPPEN, BECAUSE THAT IS JUST AN ODD INTERSECTION ANYWAY,

BUT HOW DO YOU. >> MR. BORCHERDING: IT IS AN ODD

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INTERSECTION. AND MORE THAN LIKELY, WE WILL WIND UP WITH A RECOMMENDATION FOR A ROUNDABOUT.

>>JUDGE BECERRA: HONESTLY -- I KNOW THAT SOUNDS WEIRD BECAUSE A LOT OF PEOPLE LOVE OR HATE, DEPEND ON WHAT SIDE OF THE WORLD YOU ARE IN, BUT A ROUNDABOUT MAKES ABSOLUTE PERFECT SENSE IN THAT SPACE. IT REALLY DOES.

I KNOW THAT JERRY IS WORKING WITH CARLOS TO CREATE SOME ADDITIONAL SIGNAGE UNTIL WE GET THAT ROUNDABOUT.

>>COMMISSIONER SHELL: GUARDRAILS AND OTHER SAFETY IMPROVEMENT FEATURE IN THE INTERIM WHILE WE GET SOME IMPROVEMENTS DESIGNED.

>>JUDGE BECERRA: YES, EXACTLY. ODD ENOUGH, ONE MORE ROUNDABOUT.

THE ROUNDABOUT CAPITAL OF THE STATE.

>>COMMISSIONER SMITH: KYLE IS ALREADY WORKING ON IT.

>>JUDGE BECERRA: I KNOW. >>COMMISSIONER INGALSBE: YES.

>>COMMISSIONER SHELL: YES. >>COMMISSIONER SMITH: YES.

>>COMMISISONER COHEN: YES. >>JUDGE BECERRA: YES.

NOW GET TO WORK. AND LET'S OPEN -- TANNER, CAN WE -- TUCKER, OPEN 6-10 AT THE SAME TIME.

DO I HAVE TO OPEN THEM UP INDIVIDUALLY.

[Items I6 - I10]

>> WHICH SECTION? >>JUDGE BECERRA: ONLY FIVE PUBLIC HEARINGS AT THE SAME TIME.

>> THAT IS FINE. >>JUDGE BECERRA: OPEN 6, 7, 8,

9, 10. >> 6, HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE POSSIBLE ACTION TO ESTABLISH A FOUR-WAY STOP AT THE INTERSECTION OF HILLSIDE TERRACE, GREEN MEADOWS LANE AND HERON DRIVE. AND 7, HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING WITH THE POSSIBLE ACTION TO ESTABLISH A 25-MILE-PER-HOUR SPEED LIMIT ON GREAT NORTHERN AND SANTA FE RUN.

I-8, HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING POSSIBLE ACTION TO ESTABLISH A 25-MILE-PER-HOUR SPEED LIMB THE ON ROLLING MEADOW LANE.

ITEM 9, HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING POSSIBLE ACTION TO ESTABLISH A 35-MILE-PER-HOUR SPEED LIMIT ON SAWYER RANCH ROAD.

ITEM 10, HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING WITH THE POSSIBLE ACTION TO ESTABLISH A 25-MILE-PER-HOUR SPEED LIMIT WITH THE GREEN

PASSTURES SUBDIVISION. >> SO MOVED.

>> SECOND. >>JUDGE BECERRA: WE HAVE OPENED THEM IN A BLACK. AND WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND WHICH MEANS WE CAN GO STRAIGHT TO VOTING FOR THESE THINGS IF THERE ARE NO COMMENTS OR DIRECTIONS.

TALK ABOUT EFFICIENCY SOME MORE. THERE IS NO MOVEMENT.

I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. BRRR MOTION AND A SECOND TO ADOPT ALL OF THESE.

IF NO OTHER COMMENTS, CALL THE R

[Items I11 & I12]

R ROLL.

>>COMMISSIONER INGALSBE: YES. >>COMMISSIONER SMITH: YES.

>>COMMISSIONER COHEN: YES. >>COMMISSIONER SHELL: YES.

>>JUDGE BECERRA: YES. OPEN I- 1 AND 12.

>> I- 11, DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO CALL FOR A PUBLIC HEARING ON SEPTEMBER 19, 2023 TO ESTABLISH A THREE-WAY STOP AT THE INTERSECTION SECTION OF GREEN PASTURES ROAD AND COUNTRY LANE. I-12, DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO CALL FOR A PUBLIC HEARING ON SEPTEMBER 19, 2023 TO ESTABLISH A THREE-WAY TOP AT THE INTERSECTION OFBUNTON LANE

HIDENREICH LANE AND DAIRY ROAD. >>JUDGE BECERRA: THIS IS WHAT WE ARE MAKE CAN MODIFICATIONS WITH THE COMMISSIONERS' WORK WITH PROMOTE MORE SAFETY, SECURITY, MORE ACCESS AND ENGAGING IN THESE MAG SIEVE SENT WAYS. I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, ALL. >>COMMISSIONER INGALSBE: THANK YOU, JUDGE. FOR SAFETY.

>>JUDGE BECERRA: MOST DEFINITELY PUBLIC HEALTH.

>>COMMISSIONER SMITH: YES. >>COMMISSIONER COHEN: YES.

>>COMMISSIONER SHELL: YES. >>COMMISSIONER INGALSBE: YES.

[I13. Discussion and possible action to consider the release of the 2-year maintenance bond #PB03016800710 in the amount of $61,623.61, and the acceptance of roads into the county road maintenance system for 6 Creeks Subdivision, Phase 1, Section 5A. SHELL/BORCHERDING]

>>JUDGE BECERRA: YES. I-13 PLEASE.

>>I-13, DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO CONSIDER THE RELEASE OF THE TWO-YEAR MAINTENANCE BOND PB 03016800710 IN THE AMOUNT OF $16,623.61, AND THE ACCEPTANCE OF ROADS IN THE COUNTY ROAD MAINTENANCE SYSTEM TO 6 CREEKS SUBDIVISION, PHASE 1, SECTION

5A. >>COMMISSIONER SHELL: SO MOVED.

>> SECOND. >>JUDGE BECERRA: PLEASE CALL THE

ROLL. >>COMMISSIONER COHEN: YES.

>>COMMISSIONER SHELL: YES. >>COMMISSIONER INGALSBE: YES.

[I14. Discussion and possible action to consider the acceptance of road construction and surface drainage improvements, acceptance of the maintenance bond #PB03016800910M1 in the amount of $58,887.84, and acceptance of the revegetation bond #PB03016800910M in the amount of $45,070.00 for Caliterra, Phase 5, Section14. SMITH/BORCHERDING]

>>COMMISSIONER SMITH: YES. >>JUDGE BECERRA: YES.

ITEM 14, PLEASE. >> I-14, DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO CONSIDER THE ACCEPTANCE OF ROAD CONSTRUCTION AND SURFACE DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENTS, ACCEPTANCE OF MAINTENANCE BOND PB 03016800910M 1 IN THE AMOUNT OF $58,887.84

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AND ACCEPTANCE OF THE REVEGETATION BOND NUMBER PB 03016800910M IN THE AMOUNT OF $45,070 FOR CALITERRA, PHASE 5,

SECTION 14. >>COMMISSIONER SHELL: SO MOVED.

>>COMMISSIONER SMITH: SECOND. >>JUDGE BECERRA: MOUTHFUL.

YOU ARE DO A GREAT JOB. >>COMMISSIONER SHELL: YES.

>>COMMISSIONER INGALSBE: YES. >>COMMISSIONER SMITH: YES.

[I15. Discussion and possible action to consider the acceptance of road construction and surface drainage improvements, release of the Letter of Credit #20234029 in the amount of $69,260.00, acceptance of the maintenance bond #4461007 in the amount of $56,682.10, and acceptance of the revegetation bond #4461010 in the amount of $6,666.00 for 6 Creeks subdivision, Phase 1, Section 7. SHELL/BORCHERDING]

>>COMMISSIONER COHEN: YES. >>JUDGE BECERRA: GENTLEMEN.

TWO MORE. NUMBER 15.

>>I-15, DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO CONSIDER THE ACCEPTANCE OF ROAD CONSTRUCTION AND SURFACE DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENT, RELEASE OF THE LETTER OF CREDIT NUMBER 2023 4029 IN THE AMOUNT OF $69,260. ACCEPTANCE OF THE MAINTENANCE BOND NUMBER 4461007 IN THE AMOUNT OF $56 NOW, 682.10 AND ACCEPTANCE OF THE REVEGETATION BOND NUMBER 4461010 IN THE AMOUNT OF $666 TO THE 6 CREEKS SUBDIVISION, PHASE 1, SECTION 7.

>>COMMISSIONER SHELL: SO MOVED. >>COMMISSIONER SMITH: SECOND.

>> A LOT OF 6S AT THE END. >>COMMISSIONER INGALSBE: YES.

>>COMMISSIONER SHELL: YES. >>COMMISSIONER SMITH: YES.

[I16. Discussion and possible action to consider the acceptance of road construction and surface drainage improvements, accept the maintenance bond #4461009 in the amount of $52,704.60, and acceptance of the revegetation bond #4461011 in the amount of $5,928.00 for 6 Creeks subdivision, Phase 1, Section 12. SHELL/BORCHERDING]

>>COMMISSIONER COHEN: YES. >>JUDGE BECERRA: YES.

LAST ONE, I-16. >> I-16, DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO CONSIDER THE ACCEPTANCE OF ROAD CONSTRUCTION AND SURFACE DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENT, ACCEPT THE MAINTENANCE BOND 4461009 IN THE AMOUNT OF $52,704.60 AND ACCEPTANCE OF THE REVEGETATION BOND 4461011 IN THE AMOUNT OF $5928 FOR 6 CREEKS SUBDIVISION, PHASE 1, SECTION 12.

>> SO MOVED. >> SECOND.

>>JUDGE BECERRA: PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

>>COMMISSIONER SMITH: YES. >>COMMISSIONER COHEN: YES.

>>COMMISSIONER SHELL: YES. >>COMMISSIONER INGALSBE: YES.

[J1. PLN-2237-NP; Discussion and possible action regarding the Sorrell Hill Subdivision, Final Plat. SHELL/PACHECO]

>>JUDGE BECERRA: YES. J-1 PLEASE.

>> J-1, PLN-2237-NP, DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION REGARDING THE SORRELL HILL SUBDIVISION FINAL PLAT.

>> MOTION. >> SECOND.

>> MARK PACHECO, SERVICES DIRECTOR.

A PROPOSED FIVE-LOT SUBDIVISION ACROSS 20 ACRES FRONTING ALONG WINDY HILLS ROAD IN PRECINCT 3. FOR THIS SUBDIVISION, WATER WILL BE ACCOMPLISHED BY INDIVIDUAL PRIVATE WELLS AND WASTEWATER WILL BE ACCOMPLISHED BY INDIVIDUAL ON-SITE SEWAGE FACILITIES. STAFF HAS REVIEWED THE APPLICATION AND THE REVISED SUBMITTAL DOCUMENTS AND AT THIS TIME WE ARE RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF THESE SUBDIVISION

PLATT. >> COMMISSIONER COHEN.

>>COMMISSIONER SHELL: YES. >>COMMISSIONER INGALSBE: YES.

>>COMMISSIONER SMITH: YES. >>COMMISSIONER COHEN: YES.

[J2. PLN-2248-PC; Discussion and possible action regarding Burnett Ranch, Sec 4, Blk 1, Lot 13, Replat. SHELL/PACHECO]

>>JUDGE BECERRA: GENTLEMEN. J-2 AND ROUND IT ABOUT.

>>J-2, PLN-2248-PC, DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION REGARDING BURNETT RANCH SECTION 4, BLOCK 1, LOT 13 REPLAT.

>> SO MOVED. >> SECOND.

>> BURNETT RANCH SECTION 4, BLOCK 1 ALREADY LOT 13.

ACROSS 2.15 ACRES A LONG DAYS END ROAD IN PRECINCT.3 FOR THE THREE LOTS. WATER WILL BE ACCOMPLISHED BY INDIVIDUAL PRIVATE AS WELL AS AND FOR WASTEWATER TREATMENT.

THAT WILL BE ACCOMPLISHED THROUGH INDIVIDUAL ON-SITE SEWAGE FACILITIES. VERY SIMILAR TO THE PREVIOUS ITEM. STAFF HAS REVIEWED THE REVISED -- RESUBMITTED DOCUMENTS AND PROPOSING APPROVAL OF THE

SUBDIVISION PLAT. >>JUDGE BECERRA: BEAUTIFUL.

ANYTHING ELSE? IF NOT, CALL THE ROLL.

>>COMMISSIONER SHELL: YES. >>COMMISSIONER INGALSBE: YES.

>>COMMISSIONER SMITH: YES. >>COMMISSIONER COHEN: YES.

[K6. Discussion and possible action to consider the creation of a Veterans Commission whose duties would be to collaborate with countywide, veteran-focused organizations to support and promote veterans' needs. BECERRA/PRATHER]

>>JUDGE BECERRA: YES. PLEASE OPEN K-6.

>> K-6, DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION IT TO CONSIDER THE CREATION OF VETERANS COMMISSION WHOSE DUTIES WOULD BE TO COLLABORATE WITH COUNTYWIDE VETERAN FOCUSED ORGANIZATIONS TO SUPPORT AND PROMOTE VETERANS' NEEDS.

>>COMMISSIONER INGALSBE: MOTION. >>COMMISSIONER COHEN: SECOND.

>>JUDGE BECERRA: A MOTION AND A SECOND.

OUR VETERANS OFFICER JUDE PRATHER HERE.

>> GOOD MORNING, JUDGE AND COMMISSIONERS.

TO ESTABLISH AND FORMALIZE A COMMISSION THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY TO HELP PROVIDE ADVICE AND SEEK THE EFFORTS OF ALL THE DIFFERENT VETERAN SERVICES ORGANIZATIONS THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY TO THE PROVIDE A SPACE, A COMMITTEE FOR THAT TO MAKE FORMAL RECOMMENDATIONS AND ALSO JUST TO HELP COLLABORATE BETWEEN THOSE

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ORGANIZATIONS. ANOTHER THING I KNOW IS NOT IN AN AGENDA. I WANTED TO ADD THAT IN.

AN INFORMAL PROCESS OF NAMING ROADS AFTER VETERAN IN HAYS COUNTY AND I WANTED TO SEE IF WE CAN FORMALIZE THIS PROCESS.

THIS COMMITTEE WILL BE A WAY IF CITIZENS OR ACROSS THE COUNTY REQUEST GO TO THIS COMMITTEE, THE COMMITTEE COULD VET THOSE NAMES AND IDEALLY PROVIDE A LIST OF NAMES TO DEVELOP SERVICES OF LOCAL VETERANS THAT HONOR. AND THE BUDGET IS BUILT AND NEW ROADS ARE COMING DOWN THE PIPELINE THAT WE CAN HAVE A LIST OF VETTED NAMES BY A GROUP OF CITIZENS IN OUR COUNTY THAT HAVE

SIGNED OFF ON THAT. >>JUDGE BECERRA: JUST WE HAVE SO MANY GREAT ORGANIZATIONS AND HAVING SO AS MUCH VETERANS SUPPORT. AND WE HAVE A REAL MAGNIFICENT, FOR EXAMPLE, AS JUDE JUST POINTED OUT, A REAL IMPORTANT MECHANISM TO NAME STREETS IN THIS PART OF THE COUNTY AND OTHER PARTS OF THE COUNTY AND JUST ABOUT COMING TOGETHER AND HARMONIZING THE UNIFIED FRONT OF PROVIDING VETERAN SERVICES AND THAT JUDE ALSO AGREED TO HAVE HIS OFFICE BEING THE LIAISON IN THIS BODY LIKE A NONVOTING MEMBER TO HELP MAKE SURE THAT EVERYTHING MOVES IN A TIDY MANNER AND COHESIVE.

I THOUGHT THAT WAS WONDERFUL. >> WE WOULD IMAGINE THAT EACH COMMISSIONER WILL APPOINT A PERSON FROM YOUR PRECINCT OR VETERAN ORGANIZATION HEAD FROM YOUR PRECINCT.

TOGETHER WE COULD COME UP WITH NAMES, BUT ALSO COLLABORATE WITH ALL THE VETERAN ASSOCIATIONS THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY.

>>COMMISSIONER SMITH: I AM ALL FOR THE CREATION.

I THINK IT IS A GREAT IDEA. I THINK WHAT WOULD BE NICE IS A -- I THINK A STANDARDIZATION OF VETERAN SERVICE ORGANIZATIONS THAT YOU ALREADY WORK WITH. IN OTHER WORDS, ALWAYS KNOWING THAT SOMEONE FROM THE -- YOU KNOW, THE AMERICAN LEAGUES OR VFW FROM THE WIMBERLY AREA OR DRIPPING AREA AND SAN MARCOS AREA THAT THERE WILL ALWAYS BE A MEMBER IN THOSE ORGANIZATIONS BECAUSE I WANT TO ENSURE NO MATTER WHO IS SITTING ON THE DAIS, THERE IS SOMEBODY WHO REPRESENTS THOSE ORGANIZATIONS WHO IS AN ACTIVE MEMBER. IF YOU CAN BRING US SOMETHING THAT SAYS, OKAY, THE SAN MARCOS VFW WILL ALWAYS HAVE A MEMBER.

YOU JUST NEED TO PROVIDE US THE NAME OF WHOEVER IT IS AND RATIFY IT. JUST THE PROCESS LIKE THAT.

AND THEN, PERHAPS, AS YOU SAID AT-LARGE MEMBERS WE CAN APPOINT.

SOMETHING FORMAL TO -- IN THAT STRUCTURE.

I KNOW WE ARE JUST -- WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO GOOD WORK TODAY AND CREATE THAT, BUT SEEING SOMETHING MORE STRUCTURED WILL BE GREAT. BECAUSE I WORK WITH THOSE ORGANIZATIONS LITERALLY ON A WEEKLY BASIS.

AND I THINK THEY DO A GREAT JOB. AND I DO THINK THEY HAVE TO HAVE A SEAT AT THE TABLE IF YOU WANT TO HAVE THE MOST REACH INTO THOSE AREAS BUT YOU KNOW BETTER THAN ANYBODY, THERE IS A LOT OF -- A MAJORITY OF VETERANS AREN'T ACTIVE MEMBERS IN THOSE ORGANIZATIONS. SO GIVING US THE AVAILABILITY TO REACH OUTSIDE OF THOSE ORGANIZATIONS AND GRAB ONE OR TWO PEOPLE THAT WE KNOW OR WHO ARE ACTIVE IN THE COMMUNITY EVEN THEY ARE NOT ACTIVE IN THE ORGANIZATION AND HAVE DIFFERENT

SKILL SETS. >> I CALL THOSE PEOPLE THE VETERANS PERMITS. THEY ARE REAL INVOLVED IN THE VETERAN COMMUNITY BUT MAY NOT BE INVOLVED IN A TRADITIONAL VETERAN SERVICES ORGANIZATION. YEAH, THE IDEA IS TO TRY TO INCORPORATE AS MANY OF THOSE PERSONALITIES, VETERAN ORGANIZATIONS INTO -- INTO ONE COMMITTEE SO WE CAN MEET REGULARLY. I WAS IMAGINING QUARTERLY OR SOMETHING OF THAT NATURE ALSO TO MAKE SURE THAT BOB AT DRIPPING SPRINGS AMERICAN LEGION KNOWS WHAT IS GOING ON IN WIMBERLY.

A LOT OF THAT NOW IS INFORMAL, TEXT MESSAGES, CALLS, E-MAILS.

THIS COULD BE A WAY TO FORMALIZE THAT -- THOSE NETWORKS WITHIN

THE COUNTY. >>COMMISSIONER SMITH: WHAT EXCITES ME ABOUT THIS, TRULY, IS I DON'T BELIEVE WITHIN THOSE ORGANIZATIONS THERE IS A -- AS MUCH HARD WORK YOU ALL DO, THERE IS NOT A GREAT FORMAL PROCESS WITHIN THOSE ORGANIZATION TO DISTRIBUTE THE KNOWLEDGE ABOUT THE ASSISTANCE THAT YOU ALL PRO PROVIDE.

THIS WILL FORMALIZE AMONGST THE COUNTY ALL THOSE ORGANIZATIONS THAT BY THE VETERAN THAT LIVES IN ONE AREA WILL BE GETTING THE SAME INFORMATION AS IN WIMBERLY WHERE THEY HAVE A VERY ACTIVE VFW WHERE THEY MAY NOT HAVE ONE IN EWING.

>>JUDGE BECERRA: COMMISSIONER, YOU ARE DESCRIBE WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH, HARMONIZING OF INFORMATION COUNTYWIDE WITH ORGANIZATIONS, CLUBS AND MEET-UPS, WHATEVER IT

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MAY BE TO BE UNIFORMLY SUPPORTED AND IN RETURN, IT ALSO HELPS JUDE TO HAVE A MOST ROBUSTLY SUPPORTED AND ENGAGED DEPARTMENT. THE INTENT, I BELIEVE, WILL BE EACH OF US WILL HAVE AN APPOINTMENT TO THE BODY AND THEN, OF COURSE, THERE WILL BE COMMITTEES TO DO THIS AND COMMITTEE TO DO THAT THAT WE WILL INTERNALIZE ALL ON OUR OWN, AND THE AIM FOR US TO EACH HAVE ONE PERSON TO MAKE THE MAIN BODY WHERE THERE WILL BE SUBSETS LIKE IN ANYTHING ELSE.

DO I LEAVE ANYTHING ELSE JR. JUDE.

>> NO, SIR. >>JUDGE BECERRA: COMMISSIONER

INGALSBE. >>COMMISSIONER INGALSBE: I WAS GOES TO ASKING -- I HAVE SOMEBODY IN MIND, RICHARD CRUZ WHO IS INVOLVED IN A LOT OF THESE, MAYBE ORGANIZATIONS.

I AM NOT SURE EXACTLY WHICH ONE BUT I THINK WOULD BE A GOOD REPRESENTATIVE IF HE IS WILLING TO.

BUT WHEN I TRIED TO CONTACT HIM -- DO YOU HAVE A LIST OF WHAT IS EXPECTED OF THEM. LIKE YOU JUST MENTIONED MAYBE MEETING EVERY QUARTER OR WHATEVER.

SOMETIMES THEY ARE GOING TO WANT TO KNOW WHAT IS INVOLVED?

>> THE INITIAL CHARGE RIGHT NOW IS TO SEEK EVERYONE'S EFFORTS THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY AND ALSO GET THE PROCESS STARTED ABOUT THE NAMING OF THE ROADS. I THINK THAT IS A GOOD TANGIBLE -- HERE IS A PROJECT I WANT US TO WORK ON TO, YOU KNOW, COME TO FRUITION AND GET SOMETHING -- IN WRITING AND STATUTE BEFORE YOU ALL IN A PROCESS TO NAME ROADS. WE ARE NOT JUST CREATING A COMMITTEE TO CREATE A COMMITTEE. WE ARE CREATING A COMMITTEE TO INCREASE COORDINATION, BUT THE INITIAL CHARGE WILL BE THE ROAD NAMING EFFORT. SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE BEEN KIND OF WORKING ON EVERY YEAR. WE HAD A ROAD NAMED HERE AND THERE AND DIDN'T HAVE THAT PROCESS AND THIS COULD BE THEIR

INITIAL CHARGE. >>COMMISSIONER INGALSBE: OKAY.

>>JUDGE BECERRA: QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS.

>>COMMISSIONER SMITH: I WOULD LIKE A LONGER CONVERSATION ON STRUCTURE OF HOW TO HAVE EACH ONE OF THOSE GROUPS REPRESENTED LIKE OUR HISTORIC COMMISSION OR OUR -- YOU KNOW, OUR CHILD PROTECTIVE SERVICES BOARD WHERE IT WILL BE A FORMALIZED PROCESS WHERE, AGAIN, EVERY ONE OF THE FIVE OF US ARE AREN'T ON THE DAIS, WE ENSURE THERE IS SOME TYPE OF COHESIVE CONTINUATION OF WHATEVER THOSE EFFORTS ARE. AND SO I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE A LONGER CONVERSATION WITH YOU ABOUT IT AND POSSIBLY TO HELP YOU BRING BACK SOMETHING TO COURT WHERE YOU CAN SAY, THIS IS WHAT THE PROCESS IS AND HOW TO EN ENCOURAGE IT HAPPENS.

>>JUDGE BECERRA: COMMISSIONER SHELL.

>>COMMISSIONER SHELL: WE TALKED ABOUT THE ROAD AND STREET NAMING. WANT TO INCLUDE DEVELOPMENT SERVICES WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THAT.

SOMETHING I TALKED TO YOU ABOUT BEFORE WAS INCLUDING LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS AS WELL AND ALLOWING -- OBVIOUSLY OUR RULES STATE IF SOMEONE WILL HAVE A ROAD NAMED AFTER THEM IS NO LONGER LIVING AND THAT WILL INCLUDE FOR THIS PROGRAM AS WELL, THAT WE FIND SOME MEMBERS OF OUR COMMUNITY WHEN IT COMES TIME TO DISCUSS THE ROAD ISSUE, THE ROAD NAMING ISSUE WE INCLUDE THE ABILITY FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS AND FIRST RESPONDERS TO

BE INCLUDED. >> YES, SIR.

THIS IS DEFINITELY THE GENESIS OF THIS.

I DON'T WANT TO STEP ON OTHER TOES.

BUT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE BEEN WORKING ON THE FIRST FEW YEARS AND WE REALLY WANT TO GET IT FORM ALLEGEALIZED.

THING CAN BE THE FIRST STEP AND EASILY INCORPORATE THE LOCAL LAW ENFORCEMENT, YOU KNOW, NAMING ALONG ALONG IN WITH THIS.

>>JUDGE BECERRA: THE VOTE IS TO CREATE THE VETERANS COMMISSION.

PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. >>COMMISSIONER INGALSBE: YES.

>>COMMISSIONER SMITH: YES. >>COMMISSIONER COHEN: YES.

>>COMMISSIONER SHELL: YES. >>JUDGE BECERRA: YES.

I THINK IT WILL BE EASIER AT THIS TIME BECAUSE I KNOW IT WAS IN THE BACK-UP BUT STILL, IT HAPPENS.

IF YOU COULD E-MAIL JUDE YOUR APPOINTMENT FROM YOUR PRECINCT, IDEALLY A VETERAN, THAT IS MY OPINION AS WELL, THAT WILL BE

GREAT AND GO THAT WAY WITH IT. >> GOOD POINT.

DOESN'T HAVE TO BE A VETERAN, A VETERAN WHO IS HEAVILY INVOLVED

IN THE VETERAN COMMUNITY. >>JUDGE BECERRA: WHERE THE HEART

IS IN THE RIGHT PLACE. >>COMMISSIONER SMITH: JUDGE, BEFORE WE DO THAT I THINK WE NEED SOMETHING MORE FORMAL TO COMMISSIONER INGALSBE'S POINT. CERTAIN INDIVIDUALS I WOULD LOVE FOR APPOINT TO THIS. CHAD IS WHO I AM THINKING OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD. SOMEONE WHO I KNOW CAN CONTRIBUTE TO THIS, BUT HE PROBABLY HAVE 200-DAY-A-YEAR TRAVEL SCHEDULE. WE NEED SOMETHING MORE FORMAL TO ASK THESE VOLUNTEERS AND PROVIDE VOLUNTEERS FIRST.

THAT IS WHAT I AM SAYING. >>JUDGE BECERRA: JUDE, GET US TO SOME ROAD MAP OF INI THINK IT IS TO HAVE A TALKING PIECE FOR THE

VOLUNTEER THEY ARE SEEKING. >> IF I SAY WE WILL HAVE OUR FIRST MEETING THIS SET DATE. AND COULD WE -- THE ONE FOR COMMISSIONER AND JUDGE, I THINK THAT A START.

SHOULD WE EXPAND IT. WE DON'T -- YOU WANT THE BUY-IN,

BUT DON'T WANT IT TO BE TOO BIG. >>JUDGE BECERRA: RIGHT.

THAT IS WHY YOU CREATE THE COMMITTEES I AM THINKING TOO.

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>> I AM GETTING THIS PROCESS STARTED.

SO IF -- IF I -- IF YOU WERE TO PROVIDE A NAME AND, LIKE, HEY, HERE IS THE INITIAL CHARGE. CREATE THE COMMITTEE.

CREATE THE FRAMEWORK WITH THOSE INITIAL FIVE APPOINTMENTS.

WOULD THAT SUFFICE? AND ALSO WE CAN HAVE MORE

CONVERSATIONS. >>COMMISSIONER SMITH: I THINK SO. A TRUE FRAMEWORK.

AND WHENEVER I SAY "A TRUE FRAMEWORK," A TRUE FRAMEWORK WHAT THEIR COMMIT AND CHARGE IS, SOMEBODY TO VOLUME FEAR FOR THE COMMISSION WITHOUT KNOWING WHAT TO ENTAIL WILL BE KIND OF STUFF BECAUSE PEOPLE WHO I WOULD WANT AND I WOULD ASSUME MOST OF THE OTHER COMMISSIONERS AND THE JUDGE WOULD WANT.

THEY ARE ACTIVE IN OUR COMMUNITY.

THEY ARE VERY ACTIVE. THE OLD ADAGE TO FIND THE BUSIEST PERSON YOU KNOW TO GET THE JOB DONE.

BUT THE TIME AND INVESTMENT. I WANT TO ENSURE I CAN GIVE THEM THE BEST POSSIBLE INFORMATION BEFORE I ASK THEN TO MAKE THE

INVESTMENT IN THE COUNTY. >> THE CHARGE OF ROAD NAMING, WE ARE GIVING THEM OFF A -- A CONCRETE -- HEY, WE ALREADY HAVE A PROJECT WE WANT TO YOU WORK ON RIGHT AWAY.

BUT ALSO, WE WANT YOU TO CREATE THIS COMMITTEE AS WELL.

IF THERE IS SUGGESTIONS ON MEMBERSHIP OR SHOULD WE HAVE ADDITIONAL MEMBERS AND THAT KIND OF STUFF FOR THE ORGANIZATIONS AND MEMBERS THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY MAYBE THE INITIAL FIVE APPOINTMENT CAN HELP GUIDE THAT TO THE NEXT STAGE OF THE COMM COMMITTEE.

>>COMMISSIONER SMITH: THAT IS PROBABLY POSITIVE.

THE MORE FRAMEWORK WE HAVE. LIKE OUR EKINGSDS.

I WILL TELL YOU WHEN WE MAKE THE APPOINTMENT TO THE ESDS.

IF THEY ARE DOING A CONSTRUCTION PROJECT, I MA MAKE SURE THAT THE NEXT APPOINTEE HAS CONSTRUCTION MANAGEMENT EXPERIENCE.

AND THOSE CAN FILL THAT ROLE AS A BOOED MEMBER.

WHEN WE LOOK AT THINGS LIKE THIS, WE HAVE THE FRONT LINE STRATEGY BASED IN DRIPPING SPRINGS, TEXAS.

VETERAN OWNED. VETERAN SERVICE CORPORATION THAT DOES PROJECT MANAGEMENT. THEY DO HELP WITH PLANNING ON STUFF. I WOULD TRY TO REACH OUT TO THEM TO SEE IF ROADS ARE THE MAIN FOCUS ON THE FIRST ONE.

I WOULD PROBABLY REACH INTO THAT.

AND HAVING A BETTER STRUCTURE WILL HELP US FILL THE ROLES AND THE REALLY NEEDED RESPONSIBILITY AREAS TO MAKE IT SUCCESSFUL, IF

THAT MAKES SENSE. >> THE TWO INITIAL CHARGES, GETTING THE COMMISSION STARTED,ING VETERAN SERVICES ORGANIZATION. A THAT IN ITSELF IS A VALUABLE, TANGIBLE. ALSO THE ROAD NAME SOMETHING LIKE, HEY, WE ALREADY HAVE A PROJECT FOR YOU ALL SO NOT JUST CREATING A COMMITTEE AND TALK AND GET TO KNOW EACH OTHER TOGETHER. WE HAVE AN INITIAL CHARGE FOR YOU ALL TO WORK ON AND GET SOMETHING IN WRITING.

I DON'T WANT TO DATE ON IT, BUT WITHIN A YEAR FROM NOW, I WOULD LIKE -- BY NEXT MEMORIAL DAY, I WANT TO HAVE SOMETHING

FORMALIZED ON THE ROAD NAMING. >>JUDGE BECERRA: I THINK YOUR PLANS AND TIMING REALLY AWESOME. AND I THINK WE WILL E-MAIL YOU OUR NAME. AND IF YOU CAN COME UP WITH A PARAGRAPH OR SOMETHING THAT THE COMMISSIONERS CAN HAVE GENERAL OUTLINES FOR THE TALKING POINTS, I THINK THAT WILL BE GREAT.

BEHIND YOU OUR NAVY VETERAN ANITA COLLINS WOULD LIKE TO SAY A FEW WORDS. THANK YOU, JUDE.

>> I WOULD LIKE TO REMIND EVERYONE THAT WOMEN ARE VETERAN TOO. SO WHEN YOU ARE LOOKING FOR AN APPOINTEE IN YOUR PRECINCT, THINK OF THE WOMEN WHO ARE ALSO VETERANS AND INVOLVED IN THIS. THANK YOU.

>>JUDGE BECERRA: WELL-DONE AND THANK YOU.

I APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR COMMENTS.

WE WILL NOW -- I AM WATCHING THE CLOCK.

WE WILL HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING AT 11:00, SO WE ARE GOING TO SQUEEZE A LITTLE BREAK IN BETWEEN AND I THINK WE HAVE TIME

[K2. Discussion and possible action to approve the 2024 Sheriff & Constable Fees. BECERRA/CARDENAS]

FOR ONE MORE. K-2.

>> K-2, DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO APPROVE THE 2024

SHERIFF AND CONSTABLE GUYS. >>COMMISSIONER INGALSBE: SO

MOVED. >>COMMISSIONER COHEN: SECOND.

>>JUDGE BECERRA: VICKI, NO CHANGE, RIGHT? WE ARE GOOD? NOTHING TO COMMENT ON K-2, ON THE SHERIFF AND CONSTABLE FEE AS SOON AS IF NOT, MARISOL WOULD

LIKE TO SAY SOMETHING. >> WE WERE ACTUALLY GOING TO REACH OUT TO THE SHERIFF AND THE CONSTABLES AND RECOMMEND AN INCREASE IN THE VEHICLE USAGE GUYS FOR THE COUNTY, SO IF THEY ARE DOING OFF-DUTY JOBS THAT THOSE GUYS WOULD INCREASE.

WE DID SOME RESEARCH ON OTHER COUNTIES IN THE AREA THAT CHARGED SIMILAR GUYS. AND THOSE FEE ARE AROUND -- ANYWHERE FROM 15 TO $25 AN HOUR. SOME DEPENDS IF THE VEHICLE IS

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IN USE AND RUNNING OR AT THE SITE.

I DON'T KNOW IF MARISOL HAS ANYTHING TO ADD, BUT WE WILL LOOK AT THOSE AND MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS TO OF LAW

ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES FOR THOSE. >>JUDGE BECERRA: PERFECT.

MARISOL? >>.YES, MY RECOMMENDATIONS.

I AM MEETING WITH THE CONSTABLE'S OFFICE SEPTEMBER 15 TO GO OVER THE ACTUAL MONTHLY REPORT THAT THEY ARE SUBMITTING FOR OFF-DUTY VEHICLE EMPLOYMENT. I AM GOING TO CHANGE THE FORMAT.

AND AN AUDITOR CANNOT PRESCRIBE THE QUORUM.

CHANGE THE FORMAT OF THE FORMING AND A FEDERAL OFFICE TRAIL FROM MY OFFICE. IT WILL MIRROR THE SHERIFF OFFICE FORMAT AND HAS BEEN WORKING WELL WITH THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE BEING ABLE TO AUDIT THOSE GUYS.

THOSE GUYS HAVE NOT BEEN INCREASED IN A WHILE.

AND AFTER AN ITEM IN COMMISSIONERS COURT THAT I BELIEVE THE JUDGE HAD ASKED ABOUT THE OFF-DUTY VEHICLE REPORTING AND WE WILL CHANGE THE ACTUAL REPORT FORM.

AND THEN I REACHED OUT TO THE VICKI TO SEE HOW THE GUYS WERE AS FAR AS -- WHETHER THEY NEEDED TO BE UPDATED SINCE IT HAPPENED AND COSTS, OF COURSE, HAVE INCREASED SHE WAS GOING TO LOOK AT THE LEASE VEHICLE COST AND FUEL COSTS AND WE WERE GOING TO RECOMMEND AN INCREASE. W ARE WORKING ON THAT.

WE SAW THIS COME ON THE AGENDA. SO WE HAVEN'T HAD A CHANCE TO REACH OUT TO THE SHERIFF AND THE CONST CONSTABLES AS FAR AS UPDATING THAT SPECIFIC FEE.

THE TWO FEES THAT WE HAVE WANTED TO DO SOME MORE RESEARCH AND TALK TO THE ACTUAL AGENCIES LIKE THE SHERIFF AND CONSTABLE TO SEE, YOU KNOW, WHAT IDEAS THEY HAD AS FAR AS THE RATE INCREASE.

>>JUDGE BECERRA: THOSE $15 FOR THE VIEWING PUBLIC TO $25 CONVERSATION, THOSE ARE THE DOLLARS THAT IF I WAS TO SAY MICK JAGGER IS COMING TO HAYS COUNTY.

AND HE NEEDS TWO PATROL VEHICLES TO ESCORT HIM TO AND FROM X Y Z LOCATION, THEN MICK JAGGER'S ORGANIZATION WILL PAY THAT FEE WE ARE DISCUSSING. IN ADDITION TO THE OFFICERS' HOURLY RATE. AND THAT FEE IF I AM NOT MISTAKEN COMES TO THE COUNTY FOR -- FOR WEAR AND TEAR ON THE VEHICLE. GOOD SUMMARY?

>>COMMISSIONER SHELL: YOU ARE RECOMMENDING BRINGING THIS BACK.

>>JUDGE BECERRA: ONLY THE VEHICLE LINE.

>> ONLY THE VEHICLE USAGE FEE. >>COMMISSIONER INGALSBE: I WAS GOING TO MENTION WE DON'T DISTINGUISH WHETHER IT IS IN COUNTY OR OUT OF COUNTY BECAUSE THEY ARE ALLOWED TO USE THE

VEHICLE OUT OF COUNTY. >> NO, WE ARE NOT DISTINGUISHING THAT, AND IF THAT IS SOMETHING YOU WANT -- WE CAN LOOK AT THAT

AS WELL. >>JUDGE BECERRA: A GOOD IDEA,

COMMISSIONER. >>COMMISSIONER SMITH: I I AGREE HE WITH COMMISSIONER INGALSBE BECAUSE I HAVE MULTIPLE ROAD PROJECTS WITH TXDOT AND OTHERS IN MY PRECINCT.

WITHIN THE LAST THREE WEEKS CONSTABLES FROM SOUTH TEXAS.

I HAVE SEEN CONSTABLES FROM OTHER PLACES.

>>JUDGE BECERRA: THAT'S RIGHT. >>COMMISSIONER SMITH: -- HERE IN

MY PRECINCT. >>JUDGE BECERRA: IN YOUR REVIEW OF THAT, A WAY TO CREATE AN ASTERISK TO SUPPORT COMMISSIONER INGALSBE'S REQUEST. IF IT IS AN OUT-OF-COUNTY TRANSACTION. NOT ONLY NEEDS TO BE HIGHLIGHTED

BUT A DIFFERENT AMOUNT. >> SO AS FAR AS THE OUT-OF-COUNTY OFFICERS THAT POTENTIALLY WORK -- DO AFTERHOUR WORK ON ROAD PROJECTS, IF A -- IF AN OFFICER IS WORKING ON A ROAD PROJECT THAT THE COUNTY IS PARTNERING WITH, TXDOT OR CITY, OUR HAYS COUNTY OFFICERS ARE NOT ALLOW TO WORK ON THE PROJECT THAT WE ARE GETTING FUNDING THROUGH TXDOT FOR.

BECAUSE WE CAN NOT ISSUE A 1099 AND W-2 FOR DOING THE SAME WORK.

>>COMMISSIONER SMITH: NOT MY CONCERN.

MY CONCERN IS WE HAVE A HAYS COUNTY VEHICLE IN RIO GRANDE, TEXAS. THERE SHOULD BE A DIFFERENT CHARGE FOR THAT. IF THEY ARE DOING AFTER-HOURS

WORK THAN IN WIMBERLY. >>COMMISSIONER INGALSBE: JUDGE

-- >>JUDGE BECERRA: IF THE CAR FROM OUR COUNTY. OUR HAYS COUNTY VEHICLES LEAVES THE COUNTY OUTSIDE OF THE EXAMPLE, A HIGHER FEE AND CLEARLY DELINEATED IN THE IMPLEMENTATION.

>>COMMISSIONER INGALSBE: THE OTHER THING, JUDGE, I AM NOT JUST -- JUST SAYING A ROAD PROJECT.

I -- I MEAN, IS THIS -- >>JUDGE BECERRA: IN GENERAL.

>>COMMISSIONER SMITH: IN GENERAL, I AGREE.

>>COMMISSIONER INGALSBE: IS THE COURT OKAY FOR THE USAGE OF A COUNTY VEHICLE FOR OFF-DUTY WORK SAY AFFIDAVIT A --

>>COMMISSIONER SMITH: SOCIAL EVENT. IN COMAL

COUNTY. >>COMMISSIONER INGALSBE: YEAH,

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OR SOME OTHER -- BECAUSE I RECEIVED COMPLAINTS IN THE PAST WHERE THERE IS A VEHICLE PARKED AT, SAY, LIKE A OH -- WHAT IT CALLED, TWIN PEAKS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT AND A COUNTY VEHICLE, A HAYS COUNTY VEHICLE PARKED THERE DOING OFF-DUTY WORK.

ARE WE OKAY WITH THAT. I WANT TO ENSURE IF WE ARE, THEN WE JUST ADDRESS IT IN GENERAL AND JUST ANYTHING OUT-OF-COUNTY

WORK. >>JUDGE BECERRA: I WANT TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND YOUR QUESTION. IS IT OUT OF COUNTY AT A LOCATION OR IN-COUNTY AT A SPECIFIC TYPE OF LOCATION.

>>COMMISSIONER INGALSBE: I DON'T KNOW.

I GUESS THAT IS SOMETHING -- IF WE WANT TO GET INTO THAT.

I WAS MAINLY SPEAKING ABOUT OUT-OF-COUNTY --

>>JUDGE BECERRA: SAY NO OUT-OF-COUNTYWIDE VEHICLES?

IS THAT WHAT YOU ARE SAYING? >>COMMISSIONER SHELL: WE TALKED ABOUT THIS BEFORE AND IT WAS HARD TO IDENTIFY.

FOR INSTANCE, IF THERE IS AN EVENT IN CALDWELL AND GUADELUPE COUNTY, IT OFTENTIMES IMPACTS HAYS COUNTY ROADS, NEIGHBORHOODS AND, SO, IF YOU GET INTO RESTRICTING ANYTHING ACROSS THE COUNTY LINE THEN OUR OFFICERS COULD POTENTIALLY NOT BE INVOLVED. FLOAT FLOAT FEST HIRED OFF-DUTY OFFICERS TO MAN SECURITY AND TRAFFIC CONTROLS.

I ALWAYS THOUGHT THAT WAS AN ADVANTAGE THAT HAYS COUNTY LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER INVOLVED JUST BECAUSE EVERYBODY WAS HEADED INTO HAYS COUNTY WHEN THAT THING WAS OVER ANYWAY I KNOW IT IS SOMETHING THAT COME UP BEFORE AND THINGS WE WOULD RATHER NOT SEE A HAYS COUNTY VEHICLE DO.

HOW TO IDENTIFY WHAT IS AND WHAT ISN'T.

>>COMMISSIONER SMITH: I AM NOT PROPOSING THE ABILITY FOR THEM TO DO IT WHATSOEVER, IF THE VEHICLE IS OUTSIDE THE COUNTY, I THINK THERE SHOULD BE A DIFFERENT CHARGE THAN IF IT IS BEING USED FOR INSIDE THE BOUNDARIES OF THE COUNTY.

>>COMMISSIONER COHEN: >> THE OTHER ITEM WE ARE FINDING WITH OUR INTERNAL EXAMINATIONS IS MISCOMMUNICATION AS FAR AS WHETHER OR NOT THE NOT-FOR-PROFITS ARE WAIVED THIS ACTUAL FEE. AND WE HAVE GO GONE BACK AND DISCUSSED IT AND BROUGHT AN ITEM TO COURT.

THE GUYS AND BROUGHT AN ITEM THE FOLLOWING WEEK AND IT WAS PULLED AND NO STAND. AND TO WAVE THESE GUYS FOR THE NOT-FOR-PROFIT AND NO SPECIFIC ACTION TAKEN FOR THE NOT-FOR-PROFIT WAIVING AND DISCUSSION HAD THAT ANYBODY CAN SET UP A NOT-FOR-PROFIT AND THEN A SUGGESTION ABOUT FUNERALS AND ABOUT TRAFFIC CONTROL. HOW DO YOU DISTINGUISH BETWEEN HELPING WITH TRAFFIC CONTROL WHICH IS SAFETY FOR OUR STREETS.

YOU KNOW, BUT BEFORE I WAS WORKING THE FOOTBALL GAME.

ALL THESE THINGS THAT CAME UP. FOR ALL THE BURNS, THERE WAS NO WAVE OF GUYS FOR NOT-FOR HAD BEEN PROFIT.

FINDING SHORTAGES IN THE OFFICES AND WE ARE REPORTING THOSE.

SO WE DIDN'T WANT THE COMMISSION TO COME UP WITH ANSWER A BETTER POLICY, ROAD MAP AS TO WHAT IS ALLOWED, WHAT IS NOT ALLOWED,

WHAT IS EX-EXEMPT. >>JUDGE BECERRA: WHAT DO YOU

THINK WAIVING NONPROFIT GUYS. >>COMMISSIONER SHELL: WE DISCUSSED IT BEFORE. A HARD THING TO IDENTIFY BECAUSE A BROAD RANGE OF NOT-FOR-PROFITS AND BEST NONON A CASE-BY-CASE BASIS. AN EVENT THAT IS SUPPORTING A NOT-FOR-PROFIT IN THE COMMUNITY AND OUR OFFICERS WANT TO PARTICIPATE AND NOT CHARM US, SOMETHING TO DISCUSS ON A

CASE-BY-CASE BASIS. >>JUDGE BECERRA: WE LEAVE THE FEE IN PLACE FOR THE NOT-FOR-PROFIT.

>> OTHER THING WHEN WE TRY TO WORK WITH NOT-FOR-PROFIT.

ORGANIZATIONS FOR THE ARPA FUNDING, THERE ARE A LOT OF NONPROFITS OUT THERE THAT AREN'T RECOGNIZED NONPROFITS SO WE CAN PARTICULARLY RUN INTO SOME ISSUES THERE.

>>JUDGE BECERRA: VERY GOOD. HERE IS THE CONVERSATION SO FAR FOR THE POLICY LENS. STILL CHARGE NOT-FOR-PROFITS.

THERE WILL BE NO VARIATION AND A TRACKING OF COUNTY VEHICLES LEAVING THAT ARE BEING CHARGED, LEAVING THE COUNTY.

I AM NOT SAYING THEY CAN'T, BUT THAT THEY KNOW.

AND IF THEY ARE OUTSIDE THE COUNTY HOW DO I HAVE A CALL AND COME BACK AND AN UNDERSTANDING THAT I AM NOT AWARE OF, I WOULD

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LIKE TO KNOW WHAT THAT IS. GENERALLY SPEAKING LEAVE THE COUNTY WITH AN ADDITIONAL FEE AND A DELINEATION THAT THEY LEFT THE COUNTY. DID I COVER IT ALL,

COMMISSIONERS. >>COMMISSIONER SMITH: I THINK IF OUR SHERIFF -- OR SOMEONE IN THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE THAT HAVE A PROGRAM THROUGH THEM AND HAVE RECOMMENDATION TO US OR SOME OF THE CASES THEY ARE RUN INTO THAT THEY WOULD LIKE FOR US TO CONSIDER, WILL BE A GOOD TIME CONSIDERING THAT POLICY.

BLANKET APPROVALS FOR SOME KIND OF SPECIFIC EVENTS OR FUNCTIONS, BUT IF THEY CAN LET US KNOW THAT, THAT WILL HELP US MAKE

SURE WE HAVE A WORKABLE POLICY. >>JUDGE BECERRA: BEING SKINT WHAT THIS AIM IS. AT THIS POINT IN TIME, IT DOES NOT INCLUDE THE VEHICLES GUYS AND THAT IS HOW WE WILL VOTE.

PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. >>COMMISSIONER SMITH: YES.

>>COMMISSIONER COHEN: YES. >>COMMISSIONER SHELL: YES.

>>COMMISSIONER INGALSBE: YES. >>JUDGE BECERRA: YES.

IN K-3 -- >> JUDGE, AFTER THIS, SQUEEZE IN

NUMBER 9 -- >>JUDGE BECERRA: LOOK AT THE TIME -- WE ARE NOT READY. K-9, SHORT RECESS AND THEN THE

[K9. Discussion and possible action to accept a Proposal with Vaughn Construction related to the Hays County Jail Attorney Visitation renovation. INGALSBE/SHELL]

BUDGET. >> K-9, DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO ACCEPT THE PROPOSAL WITH VAUGHN CONSTRUCTION RELATED TO THE HAYS COUNTY JAIL ATTORNEY RENOVATION.

>> SO MOVED. >> SECOND.

>>JUDGE BECERRA: COMMISSIONERS. >>COMMISSIONER INGALSBE: JUDGE, WE ARE WANTING TO GET THIS PROJECT STARTED.

TERRY WHITMAN IS HERE IF YOU HAVE ANY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS FOR HIM. BUT I KNOW OUR ATTORNEYS AND OUR PUBLIC DEFENDER'S OFFICE IS REQUESTING THAT THIS BE IMPROVED SO THEY CAN HAVE THEIR VISITATIONS WITH THE INMATES AT

THE JAIL. >>JUDGE BECERRA: WHO CAN SPEAK ON WHAT THE INTENT IS? SINCE YOU ARE HERE AND TOOK THE TIME RIGHT BEFORE OUR PUBLIC HEARING, COULD YOU GIVE US A FEW HIGHLIGHTS, IF YOU DON'T MIND STATING YOUR NAME AND TITLE.

>> THANK YOU, JUDGE AND COMMISSIONER, TERRY WHITMAN WITH ECM. WE ARE THE PROGRAM MANAGER FOR THE 2017 BOND PROGRAM FOR PUBLIC SAFETY THAT DID THE EXPANSION AT THE JAIL AND PUBLIC SAFETY BUILDING.

>>JUDGE BECERRA: IN COLORADO NOW.

>> YES. >>JUDGE BECERRA: HE WOULD HAVE

BEEN HERE INSTEAD. >> YES.

THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT THE EXPANSION AND RENOVATION OF THE ATTORNEY VISITATION AREAS THAT ARE ON THE EAST END OF TWO QUADS, C AND D AT THE JAIL. AND BASICALLY IF WE EXPAND THE VISITATION AREAS TO ACCOMMODATE MORE -- MORE AREAS FOR THE PUBLIC DEFENDERS AND ATTORNEYS FOR THE INMATES TO INTERVIEW AND SO FORTH. AND THE DESIGN WAS COMPLETED BY HD BRSHGZ A YEAR AGO. WE ORIGINALLY GOT A PRICE FROM VAUGHN CONSTRUCTION THROUGH THEIR PCP AND CONTRACT AT AT THIS TIME AND BECAUSE OF -- BECAUSE OF FREQUENCY OF VISITATION AT THE TIME DUE TO POST COVID AND SO FORTH, THE EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE DECIDED TO PUT IT ON HOLD BUT SINCE THEN WITH THE PUBLIC DEFENDER'S OFFICE BEING ESTABLISHED AND SO FORTH, THE NEED HAS COME BACK AROUND AND WE ARE BRINGING THIS BEFORE THE COURT. THIS IS INTENDED TO BE FUNDED FROM THE BOND PROGRAM. THERE ARE REMAINING PROCEEDS FROM THE BOND PROGRAM FROM 2017. THAT WILL BE THE FUNDING SOURCE

FOR IT. >>JUDGE BECERRA: WILL YOU TELL OUR VIEWING PUBLIC THE CURRENT SPACE AND WHAT THE COMPLETED

PROJECT WILL AFFORD. >> WELL, THE -- THE ORIGINAL VISITATION AREAS WERE CONVERTED YEARS AGO TO STORAGE SPACES.

AND SO IN A INTERIM MOVE, THOSE HAVE BEEN RE-ESTABLISHED.

AND THERE IS -- THERE ARE THREE INDIVIDUAL VISITATION BOOTH IN EACH QUAD, PLUS THERE IS A MORE PUBLIC VISITATION AREA THAT SEATS SIX IN EACH ONE OF THOSE AREAS, AND THIS WILL ADD SIX ATTORNEY VISITATION ON EACH QUAD.

SO IT WILL SUBSTANTIALLY IMPROVE THE VISITATION CAPACITY FOR THE ATTO ATTORNEYS.

>> CURRENTLY THREE ATTORNEY INMATE VISITATION SPOTS.

AND THE FINISHED PRODUCT WILL HAVE HOW MANY AGAIN.

>> I BELIEVE SIX ON EACH SIDE. >>JUDGE BECERRA: SIX ON EACH SIDE. VIEWING PUBLIC THAT ARE NOT FAMILIAR AND HAVEN'T HAD A JAIL TOUR.

CAN YOU GIVE US A TOTAL WHAT THAT WILL BE.

>> TWO VISITATION BOOTHS UP FRONT, IF I AM NOT MISTAKEN.

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THIS WILL BE 12 TOTAL. >>JUDGE BECERRA: FROM SIX TO 12.

SO WE ARE -- >> BUT I RECALL FROM THE PLANS,

SIR. >>JUDGE BECERRA: ESSENTIALLY DOUBLES. I HAVE TO HIGHLIGHT FOR THE VIEWING PUBLIC. THAT IS WHY I AM DOING THIS.

DOUBLING THE ACCESS FOR ATTORNEY INMATES AND/OR FAMILY INMATES AS

WELL, RIGHT? >> I MEAN, YES.

I DON'T KNOW IF THERE ARE ANY RESTRICTIONS ON HOW THOSE ARE USED BUT PRESIDENT PRIMARY USES ARE --

>>JUDGE BECERRA: I KNOW THESE THINGS BUT IMPORTANT TO SHARE WITH THE PUBLIC. ESTIMATED TIME OF COMPLETION.

>> 120 DAYS FOR PROCUREMENT OF THE MATERIALS BECAUSE OF THE SUPPLY CHAIN, PARTICULARLY ON THE SECURITY SIDE, THE SECURITY GLAZING AND EQUIPMENT, LOCKS AND SO FORTH.

AND THEN 12R0 DAYS FOR ACTUAL CONSTRUCTION.THE PLAN DURATION.

>>JUDGE BECERRA: OKAY. COMMISSIONERS, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? YOU ADDRESS IT.

THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. WE ARE VERY GRATEFUL.

WE REALLY APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU COMMISSIONERS SHELL AND INGALSBE FOR BEING ON THIS FOR SO LONG.

SEEING IT TO THE END. PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

>>COMMISSIONER COHEN: YES. >>COMMISSIONER SHELL: YES.

>>COMMISSIONER INGALSBE: YES. >>COMMISSIONER SMITH: YES.

>>JUDGE BECERRA: YES. WE ARE GOING TO TAKE A TEN-MINUTE RECESS AND GO TO OUR PUBLIC HEARING,

[K11. 11:00 a.m. - Hold a public hearing on the Fiscal Year 2024 proposed tax increase. BECERRA/DORSETT]

>>JUDGE BECERRA: I AM GOING TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.

PLEASE OPEN K-11. >> K-11, 11 A.M., HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING ON THE FISCAL YEAR 2024 PROPOSED TAX INCREASE.

ANYONE WISH TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? I SEE THE MOVEMENT GO AHEAD AND APPROACH THE PODIUM.

>> THANK YOU, DAN LYON. I GUESS EVERYBODY KNOWS THAT BY NOW. FROM WHAT I HAVE BEEN ABLE TO GATHER. I HAVEN'T DONE EXTENSIVE RESEARCH ON THE PROPOSED BUDGET, BUT IT LOOKS LIKE WE ARE PROPOSING $390 MILLION UP FROM $373 MILLION LAST YEAR ABOUT A 4.55 INCREASE. THE TAX RATE IS GOING FROM 31.25 PER 100,000 TO 30.75 PER 100,000.

AND I APPRECIATE EVERY DROP IN THE TAX RATE.

AND IT LOOKS GOOD, BUT THE FACT IS THAT ON MY PROPERTY ALONE, MY HOUSE HAS GONE FROM $200, 8 /* 800 TO $ 27,010, 13.05% INCREASE. ADDITIONAL PROPERTY 29% EVALUATION. SO THIS -- THIS TINY LITTLE DECREASE IN THE TAX RATE WILL NOT HELP ME VERY MUCH AND WON'T HOPE A LOT OF THE CITIZENS OF HAYS COUNTY.

I THINK WE CAN DO A LOT BETTER THAN WHAT WE ARE DOING HERE.

I LOOKED AT THE INTERNET. IT SAYS WE WILL SPEND $2.5 MILLION FOR SALARIES -- STUDY TO RAISE SALARY FOR COUNTY EMPLOYEES. WHY DON'T HE WUSS TAKE $2 MILLION OFF THE TOP AND NOT DO ITS SALARY STUDY AND GIVE IT TO THE EMPLOYEES, YOU KNOW, ACROSS THE BOARD SAME PERCENTAGE RAISE FOR EACH PERSON. I WOULD MUCH RATHER SEE THAT HAPPEN THAN THE WAY WE ARE GOING TO SQUANDER $2.5 MILLION.

THAT -- IT IS JUST ONE OF THE THINGS I FOUND.

WE ADDED 37.5 NEW POSITIONS. SOMEBODY IS GOING TO -- I AM NOT GOING SO SAY SOMEBODY WILL NOT PULL THEIR WEIGHT, BUT THAT.5 PERSON MAYBE GET RID OF THEM. THAT IS A JOKE.

SORRY. 11 LAW ENFORCEMENT POSITIONS.

14.5 POSITIONS. JUDICIAL.

NINE FOR OPERATIONS AND ADMINISTRATION.

ONE FOR TRANSPORTATION. TWO FOR HEALTH.

DO WE REALLY NEED 11 NEW LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICIALS? ALSO, THEY HAVE THE POWER OF COLLECTIVE BARGAINING.

AND THEY ARE LOOKING AT INCREASES IN THEIR SALARIES.

CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT AREN'T THE CONSTABLES MAKING $82,000 A YEAR? I AM SORRY.

THAT -- THAT IS BETTER THAN A -- I AM JUST GUESSING HERE, AT

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LEAST 75% OR 80% OF THE SALARIES HERE IN HAYS COUNTY.

I THINK THE MOST I EVER MADE WAS $14.59 AN HOUR.

AND THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >>JUDGE BECERRA: THANK YOU, MR. LYON, THOSE SPACES, EVERYONE CAN RUN FOR THEM.

AND OUR -- OUR ASSESSMENTS HAVE ALREADY BEEN DONE.

AND TAMPA WASN'T $2.5 MILLION. I DON'T KNOW WHERE THAT NUMBER CAME FROM IN YOUR NOTES. BUT IT IS IMPORTANT THAT IN OUR ATTEMPT TO FILL POSITIONS THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY, IT IS NOT ALWAYS -- UNFORTUNATELY AS WHAT IS THE AVERAGE PAY, EVERY AVERAGE PERSON IN THIS COMMUNITY, BUT A REGIONAL COMPARISON OF THE POSITIONS. AND THAT IS WHY BECAUSE IT IS SO TRICKY, THAT IS WHY WE HAVE TO HIRE AN OUTSIDE FIRM TO DO WHAT WE HAVE DONE FOR A LONG TIME INTERNALLY AND MOVED ALONG OVERALL FAIRLY WELL, BUT ONCE IN A WHILE WE HAVE TO HIRE AN OUTSIDE PROFESSIONAL TO GIVE US ALL THE KALEIDOSCOPE LENS OF ALL THE REASONS AND WAYS IN WHICH TO GIVE PEOPLE PROPER, FAIR, BALANCED EQUITABLE PAY FOR THE WORK.

MISS MILLER, DID I COVER THAT OKAY.

>>COMMISSIONER SHELL: THE TOTAL SET ASIDE FOR EMPLOYEES WAS IDENTIFIED WITH THAT -- WITH THAT IDENTIFIER PER SALARY STUDY AND NOT WANTING TO SPENT ANY MORE ON THE MONEY.

THE MONEY SET AID SIDE TO MRIFSH WHAT STUD INCIDENT WAS PRESENTED

US TO. >>JUDGE BECERRA: EXACTLY RIGHT.

ANYONE ELSE ON THE PUBLIC HEA HEARING? I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

OKAY. BATTER UP.

>> VICKI DORSETT, HAYS BUDGET OFFICER.

AUGUST 22, THE COURT VOTED ON A PROPOSED TAX RATE REQUIRED BY PROPERTY TAX CODE CHAPTER 26. THIS PUBLIC HEARING THAT WAS JUST HELD IS THE REQUIREMENT OF THAT.

THE CURRENT AS MR. LYON MENTIONED 31.25.

THE PROPOSED TAX RATE IS 30.75. AND THAT'S ABOUT $97 ANNUAL INCREASE ON AN AVERAGE TAXPAYER. THE NEW IMPROVEMENTS WE ADD TO THE TAX ROLL ARE OVER $2.5 BILLION, WHICH DID GENERATE A LITTLE OVER 7.2 MILLION IN ADDITIONAL TAX REVENUE WHICH DID ALSO HELP OFFSET THE TAX RATE AND BRING HELP ASSIST BRINGING THAT TAX RATE LOWER. THE TAX ASSESSOR IS HERE AS WELL ON ANY OF THE TAX RATE CALCULATIONS IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS. OTHERWISE, THIS IS A REQUIREMENT. WE WILL HAVE OUR FINAL PUBLIC HEARING ON SEPTEMBER 19 AT 1 P.M. AND THAT IS WHEN THERE WILL BE AN ADOPTION OF THE TAX RATE IN THE BUDGET AND LEVYING THE

TAXES. >>JUDGE BECERRA: AND I -- HAS IT

BEEN POSTED FOR THE 1 P.M. >> IT HAS NOT BEEN POSTED -- YES, I AM SORRY. IT HAS BEEN POSTED.

WE WERE REQUIRED TO POST. AND WE WILL HAVE ADDITIONAL POSTING AS WELL IN NEXT SUNDAY'S --

>>JUDGE BECERRA: I KNOW IN YEARS PAST, WE HAD TO TAKE A LUNCH BREAK BECAUSE WE WERE READY BEFORE THAT 1:00 WINDOW AND I DON'T KNOW IF THERE WAS A CHANCE TO MOVE IT UP.

>> YOU COULD POTENTIALLY MOVE IT UP.

WE POSTED IT FOR THE LAST 30 DAYS.

AND IN DIFFERENT -- >>JUDGE BECERRA: WE WILL LEAVE IT ALONE. PLAN ON TAKING A LUNCH, COMMISSIONERS, BECAUSE THAT IS WHAT WE HAVE DONE IN THE PAST.

WE HAVE BEEN READY WAY BEFORE. WE HAVE A 1:00 WE HAVE TO -- WE

WERE DONE WAY BEFORE. >>COMMISSIONER SMITH: WE CAN

DISCUSS CHANGES. >> WE WILL HAVE A BUDGET WORKSHOP PRIOR TO THE FINAL PUBLIC HEARING AND WE WILL BE DOING FINAL CHANGES. THERE ARE STILL SOME DISCUSSIONS TO BE HELD ON THE ARPA ALLOCATIONS TO FINALIZE THOSE.

WE USUALLY GO OVER ANY GRANT REVENUE OR EXPENSE CHANGES, FUND

BASS. >>JUDGE BECERRA: YOU THINK WE

MAY FILL THE TIME. >> WE PROBABLY WILL FILL SOME OF THAT TIME PRIOR TO WITH THE BUDGET WORKSHOP.

>>COMMISSIONER SHELL: 1 P.M. SEPTEMBER 19 OUR FINAL PUBLIC

HEARING ON THE BUDGET. >> YES, SIR.

>>COMMISSIONER INGALSBE: DO WE HAVE ANOTHER HEARING NEXT WEEK?

>> NO MA'AM. >> WE TENTATIVELY SCHEDULED A TAX RATE HEARING NEXT WEEK AND THE COURT CHANGED THAT ON THE

22ND SO WE ARE HOLDING THAT NOW. >>COMMISSIONER INGALSBE: WE HAVE

COURT NEXT WEEK THOUGH. >> YES.

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>>COMMISSIONER SMITH: MOVED IT UP ON THE BADGE CALENDAR FROM

12TH TO THE 15TH. >>JUDGE BECERRA: MISS OH'CANE HERE. AND ALWAYS THE SAME DIFFICULTY IN PECKS PLAINING THINGS BECAUSE IT IS A KALEIDOSCOPE.

I KEEP THINKING OF THE KALEIDOSCOPE WITH ALL THE DIFFERENT RAYS. AND TO DETERMINE IF A STATEMENT IS TRUE AND A MATH 'CASING AND WORD PROBLEM THAT SEEMS TO BE LACKING IN UNDERSTANDING AND ONE WAY OR ANOTHER.

DO YOU WANT TO COMMENT THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE APPRAISAL

DISTRICT AND THE TAX OFFICE. >>JUDGE BECERRA: HOW SOMEBODY ACHIEVES THAT. $87 FOR AN AVERAGE HOMEOWNER CAN SEE AN INCREASE OF AND OTHER STATEMENTS THAT WE WILL MAKE -- OR I WILL MAKE, FOR EXAMPLE, THE NEW GROWTH IS PAYING FOR ITSELF IN A LOT OF WAYS. AND SOME PEOPLE LIKE MR. LYON WILL NOD NO, NO, NO. MAYBE YOU CAN SHED SOME LIGHT

WHAT THAT MEANS. >> JUST A BASIC TRUTH IN TAXATION IS THE -- IS THE CONCEPT IN THE TEXAS CONSTITUTION THAT WE WORK OFF OF.

AND QUESTION MEANING THE APPRAISAL DISTRICT IN THE TAX OFFICE. MY PART OF THAT WITH THE TAX OFFICE STARTS IN JULY WHEN THE APPRAISAL DISTRICT CERTIFIES VALUE TO ME AS WELL AS THE INDIVIDUAL TAXING UNITS.

AND THEN THEY KNOW WHAT IF YOU WILL VALUE THEY HAVE AND WHAT ALSO -- WHAT TAXABLE VALUE THEY HAVE TO WORK WITH.

AND BASED OFF OF THAT INFORMATION, I CALCULATE SEVERAL DIFFERENT TAX RATES, BUT THE TWO, I GUESS, MAIN ONES WITHOUT GETTING TOO FAR IN THE WEEDS ARE THE NO NEW REVENUE RATE.

WHICH JUST GIVES THE TAXING UNIT AN IDEA OF WHAT TAX RATE THEY WOULD NEED TO ADOPT IF THEY WANT JUST ROUGHLY THE SAME AMOUNT OF REVENUE AS THEY GOT LAST YEAR WITH PROPERTY TAX IN BOTH YEARS.

SECOND RATE, I CALCULATE IS THE VOTER APPROVAL RATE AND THE HIGHEST RATE THE STATE ALLOWS THE GOVERNING BODY TO ADOPT BEFORE GOING TO THE VOTERS FOR APPROVAL.

AFTER THAT, I APOLOGIZE I HAVE GUM IN, AFTER THAT, CERTIFY WITH THE TAXING UNIT, USE THAT TO ADOPT THEIR BUDGET TAX RATE AND MY OFFICE THEN SENDS YOU THE BILL IN OCTOBER.

AND IN SO FAR AS -- AND YOU REMIND ME AGAIN WHAT YOU WANTED

ME TO EXPAND ON AFTER THAT. >>JUDGE BECERRA: I WAS WONDERING A EASY WAY THAT YOU SEE -- YOU SEE THIS ALL DAY, EVERY DAY, AN EASY WAY FOR YOU TO DESCRIBE THE -- LIKE VICKI JUST SAID, $2 BILLION IN NEW CONSTRUCTION THAT IS CONTRIBUTE TO OUR TAX BASE.

>> SURE. >>JUDGE BECERRA: THAT IS OFTEN POINTED TO AS NEW GROWTH, A NEW BUILDING, A NEW INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX, A NEW NEIGHBORHOOD. A NEW APARTMENT COMPLEX.

THAT IS NEW GROWTH AND THAT NEW BREATH HAS A NEW STACKS BILL AND

EXPLAIN HOW IT HELPS PAY FOR -- >> SURE, SO ASSUMING THAT A TAXING UNIT ADOPTS THE NO NEW REVENUE RATE, THAT MEANS THAT THERE IS STILL MONEY BEING GENERATED OUTSIDE OF THAT RATE FOR THE NEW VALUE IN THE COUNTY. IF THEY HAVE A NEW COMPLEX COME IN AND OF VALUE TO THE COUNTY, THEY ARE ALSO NOW APPORTIONED.

THEIR, I GUESS, STAKE IN THE COUNTY.

AND THEY ARE NOW PAYING PART OF THAT.

SO WE ARE DIVVYING UP THE AMOUNT OF TAX RUN AND VALUE INTO A

LARGER POOL. >>JUDGE BECERRA: THAT'S RIGHT.

I DON'T KNOW WHY, BUT -- BUT SOME PEOPLE JUST DON'T BELIEVE THAT. I DON'T KNOW HOW TO DESCRIBE IT ANY OTHER WAY THAN IF WE HAD $100 TAX BILL AND WE HAD MORE PEOPLE PITCHING IN TO PAY THAT $100 TAX BILL, YOUR BILL WILL EITHER GO DOWN OR ALLOW TO SPEND MORE WITHOUT RAISING YOUR RATE.

>> RIGHT, EXACTLY. >>JUDGE BECERRA: ANYTHING ELSE COMMISSIONERS WHILE MISS O'CANE IS ABOUT.

>>COMMISSIONER COHEN: ONE THING THAT I TALKED TO HER ABOUT EARLIER THIS YEAR OF TRYING TO DO MORE TOWN HALLS WITHIN THE AREAS TO TRY TO EXPLAIN -- HELP PEOPLE UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, THE -- THE DISTRICT, THE APPRAISAL DISTRICT, THE COUNTY, WHO -- YOU KNOW, HOW WE WORK TOGETHER IN A SENSE.

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BECAUSE PEOPLE DO HAVE A LOT OF QUESTIONS ESPECIALLY WHEN THOSE INITIAL APPRAISAL NOTICES GO OUT AND ALL OF OUR OFFICES, I AM SURE, ARE INUNDATEDED WITH PHONE CALLS AND E-MAILS.

>> ABSOLUTELY. >>COMMISSIONER COHEN: FOR ME AS A NEW PERSON IN THIS SEAT, YOU KNOW, I DEFINITELY SAW AN OPPORTUNITY AND A NEED TO BE -- TO INFORM OUR CONSTITUENCY OF

HOW THIS PROCESS WORKS. >> ABSOLUTELY.

>>COMMISSIONER COHEN: SO HOPEFULLY WE CAN DO THAT NEXT

YEAR. >> WE WILL DEFINITELY GET THAT SET UP WITH MYSELF AND ASSUMING THE APPRAISAL DISTRICT IS UP FOR THAT, WE WILL GUILTY THAT GOING. BECAUSE IT IS EXTREMELY CONFUSING PROCESS. AND I WORK THERE.

SO I CAN ONLY IMAGINE. >>JUDGE BECERRA: IT IS FAIR.

IF PEOPLE ARE CONFUSED AND THEY WANT TO UNDERSTAND AND WHAT WE THINK THE SAME QUESTION AGAIN AND AGAIN, WE NEED TO FIND DIFFERENT WORDS. DIFFERENT GROUPINGS TO GET THROUGH AND GET OUR MESSAGE ACROSS -- BE EFFECTIVE COMMUNICATORS GET OUR SMELLS SAGE ACROSS WHAT THEY ARE THINKING. AND THANK YOU FOR PUNCHING AT THIS ONE MORE TIME. WE APPRECIATE WHAT YOU ARE DOING. VICKI, ANYTHING ELSE? OKAY, WE WILL MOVE ON THEN. WE WILL CONTINUE WITH K-3,

[K3. Discussion and possible action to authorize the County Clerk's Office to procure a credit card in an amount not to exceed $3,500.00 from the County Depository Bank. BECERRA/CARDENAS]

PLEASE. >> K-3, DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO AUTHORIZE THE COUNTY CLERK'S OFFICE TO SECURE A CREDIT CARD IN THE AMOUNT NOT TO THE EXCEED $3500 FROM THE COUNTY

DEPOSITORY BANK. >>COMMISSIONER INGALSBE: SO

MOVED. >>COMMISSIONER COHEN: SECOND.

>>JUDGE BECERRA: DR. CARDENAS IS NOT HERE BUT YOU UNDERSTAND THE

PROCESS AND THE GOALS. >>COMMISSIONER INGALSBE: YES.

>>COMMISSIONER SMITH: YES. >>COMMISSIONER COHEN: YES.

>>COMMISSIONER SHELL: YES. >>JUDGE BECERRA: YES.

[K4. Discussion and possible action to authorize the Human Resources Department to hire a temporary Communications Manager to finalize the website upgrade with an effective date of 9/10/23 to end on or before 12/31/23. SHELL/MILLER]

K-4, PLEASE. >> K-4, DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO AUTHORIZE THE HUMAN RESOURCES DEPARTMENT TO HIRE A TEMPORARY COMMUNICATIONS MANAGER TO FINALIZE THE WEB SITE UPGRADE WITH THE EFFECTIVE DATE OF SEPTEMBER 10, 2023 TO END ON OR

BEFORE DECEMBER 31, 2023. >> SO MOVED.

>> SECOND. >>JUDGE BECERRA: COMMISSIONER

SHELL. >>COMMISSIONER SHELL: THIS WILL ALLOW MISS MILLER TO RETAIN LONG ENOUGH TO FINISH OUT OUR WEB

SITE UPDATE. >>JUDGE BECERRA: NOT A NEW PERSON, BUT KEEPING KIM FOR THAT WINDOW OF TIME.

>> CORRECT. >>JUDGE BECERRA: PLEASE CALL THE

ROLL. >>COMMISSIONER SMITH: YES.

>>COMMISSIONER COHEN: YES. >>COMMISSIONER SHELL: YES.

[K5. Discussion and possible action to adopt the Resolution of the Hays County Commissioners Court Approving Procedures for Various Development Applications. SHELL/PACHECO]

>>COMMISSIONER INGALSBE: YES. >>JUDGE BECERRA: YES.

K-5, PLEASE. >> K-5.

DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO ADOPT A RESOLUTION OF A HAYS COUNTY COMMISSIONERS COURT APPROVING PROCEDURES TO VARIOUS

DEVELOPMENT APPLICATIONS. >>COMMISSIONER SHELL: SO MOVED.

>>COMMISSIONER SMITH: SECOND. >>JUDGE BECERRA: MR. PACHECO.

>> THANK YOU, JUDGE, COMMISSIONERS, RESOLUTION ATTACHED IS A RESOLUTION THAT OUR DEPARTMENT ALONG THE TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT AND GENERAL COUNSEL'S OFFICE HAVE BEEN WORKING DILIGENTLY ON OVER THE PAST FEW MONTHS.

KIND OF AS A FOREFRONT TO COME UP AND CLEAR THE AIR ON SEVERAL DEVELOPMENT APPLICATION IN THE COUNTY AND COME UP WITH SOME INTERNAL PRACTICES AND PROCEDURES WE CAN IMPLEMENT STARTING TODAY. THIS ALSO OWE INSIDES WITH CHANGES IN THE -- IN THE TEXAS LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE THAT HAVE GONE INTO EFFECT. AND PERTAIN TO DEVELOPMENT PROCESSES AND PROCEDURES AS WELL.

OUR DEPARTMENT -- THE DEPARTMENT PROCEDURE HAVE SEVERAL ITEMS OF RECOGNITION ALSO. AND ALSO AN ITEM OF DELEGATION AND DESIGNATION AS WE CLARIFY TO OUR DEPARTMENT FOR APPROVAL AUTHORITY FOR PLAT ACTIONS. SO THAT -- APPLICATIONS.

THAT IS ONE ITEM VERSUS MANY OTHER ITEMS IN THE RESOLUTION.

I WILL BE FREE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS FROM ANY OF THE COURT MEMBERS IN THE RESOLUTION. I KNOW COMMISSIONER SHELL SPONSORED THE ITEM. HE MAY HAVE SOME THINGS TO SPEAK ON. BUT REQUESTING AUTHORITIES FROM THE COMMISSIONERS COURT TO DELEGATE OUR DEPARTMENT TO BE THE COUNTY AUTHORITY. THAT IS THE EXACT TERM GIVEN IN STATUTE CHANGE. TO MAKE DETERMINATION FOR APPROVALS, APPROVAL FOR CONDITIONS AND DISAPPROVALS OF PLAT APPLICATIONS. OUR DEPARTMENT FEELS THAT IS THE -- BY DELEGATING THE DEVELOPMENT SERVICE DEPARTMENT THE AUTHORITY, IT WILL POSITION THE COUNTY TO CONTINUE TO PROVIDE THAT HIGH-QUALITY CUSTOMER SERVICE THAT THE MAJORITY OF OUR DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY IS ACCUSTOMED TO AND COMPLYING WITH THE APPROVAL PROCESS AND TIMELINES THAT THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE CHAPTER 232 HAS ALREADY ESTABLISHED.

I WILL CLARIFY ONE BIT ON THE APPROVAL PROCESS.

IF IT IS GIVEN TO OUR DEPARTMENT TO BE THE AUTHORITY FOR MAKING THE DETERMINE NATIONS THAT WHEN IT COMES TO OVERALL APPROVALS, THE INTENT IS TO HAVE THE COMMISSIONERS COURT STILL APPROVE THE PLAT APPLICATIONS, REFEEL THAT THE IS BEST PRACTICE MOVING FORWARD. HOWEVER, IF A DETERMINATION OF A PLAT IS REQUIRED AND PRIOR TO THE SCHEDULED COURT SESSION BECAUSE IT IS NOT OUT OF THE REALM WHERE COURT CAN -- OR WE

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RAN ON A TIMELINE THAT A STATE STATUTE IS REQUIRED AND IF THERES NO ACT BY THE COURT, A DE FACTO APPROVAL IS GIVEN TO THAT APPLICATION. SO IF A DETERMINATION OF A PLAT IS REQUIRED PRIOR TO THE NEXT SCHEDULED COURT SESSION, THIS WILL ENABLE THE DEPARTMENT TO ISSUE AN APPROVAL AND PLACE ON THE NEXT COURT CONSIDERATION -- COURT AGENDA FOR RATIFICATION OF

THAT ACTION. >>JUDGE BECERRA: SOUNDS CLEAN.

AND OBVIOUSLY MY AIM -- AND I KNOW THAT WE ALL BENEFIT FROM THIS -- IS CONSISTENCY AND CONTINUITY IN GOVERNMENT AND THE PREDICTABLEABILITY. AND I THINK THAT IS ALL USEFUL AND NECESSARY WITH ALL THAT IS IT GOING ON ON ALL FRONTS.

TO BE PREDICTABLE AND USER-FRIENDLY AS YOU ARE DESCRIBING. COMMISSIONER SHELL.

>>COMMISSIONER SHELL: SOMETHING I ALLUDED TO NOT TOO LONG AGO OF THE CONSIDERATION OF APPROVAL OF A PRELIMINARY PLAN IN THAT THE LAWS CHANGED EVERY SESSION. WE HAVE NOT UPDATED OUR REGULATIONS SINCE 2017. THERE ARE A FEW THINGS WE NEED TO TAKE CARE OF THIS DELEGATION THAT MARCUS MENTIONED THAT IS IMPORTANT BECAUSE OF THE TIMELINE THAT IS INCORPORATED INTO STATUTE. IN THE RESOLUTION I DO ALLUDE AS WELL TO A -- TO AN UPDATE OF THE REGULATIONS WHICH I AM HOPING THAT THE COURT STARTS THE PROCESS DURING THIS YEAR.

THIS CALENDAR YEAR. AND CAN PROCURE THE SERVICES NEEDED TO UPDATE OUR RULES AND GO THROUGH THAT PROCESS WHICH THERE ARE SEVERAL REQUIREMENTS OF THAT ANALYSIS TO HAPPEN AT THE SAME TIME. SO IT IS A FAIRLY LENGTHY PROCESS. WOULD TAKE CARE OF ALL THESE THINGS THAT I KIND OF INDIVIDUALLY MENTIONED BECAUSE THERE ARE -- THERE ARE ISSUE IN EACH ONE OF THOSE THAT COME BEFORE THE COURT BEFORE. AND I THOUGHT IT WAS JUST GOOD TO GIVE OUR STAFF SOME CLARIFICATION, THE DEFINITION OF SUBDIVISIONS IS THE FIRST ONE. AND THEN HOW THAT IS APPLIED.

PRELIMINARY PLANS, AS I MENTIONED.

THIS CAME TO MY MIND WHEN DISCUSSING A PRELIMINARY PLAN AND EXPLAINS WHAT A PRELIMINARY PLAN IS.

BECAUSE A STATUTE SAYS A PRELIMINARY PLAN IS NOT REQUIRED. I WANT TO MAKE SURE -- IF SOMEONE SAYS I DON'T WANT TO DO A PRELIMINARY PLAN, THEY DON'T HAVE TO DO ONE BUT ENCOURAGE THEM TO DO A PRELIMINARY PLAN BECAUSE GETS A LOT OF THESE TYPE OF ISSUES DISCUSSED IN A LITTLE BIT OF INFORMAL WAY AND BRING SOMETHING TO THE.PUBLIC THAT CAN BE EXPLAINED IN A BETTER WAY. THE TIMELINES ARE MENTIONED IN NEAR BECAUSE THEY ARE RELATIVELY NEW TO US.

INFRASTRUCTURE PLANNING IS MENTIONED BECAUSE SOMETHING WE APPROVED. I BELIEVE FEES FROM TIA TODAY AND WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYONE UNDERSTANDS THE ISSUES SURROUNDING THAT. AND DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS.

WE HAVE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS COME THROUGH AND THE PUBLIC SAYS YOU ARE SKIRTING THE RULES THE PLATTING DEVELOPMENT.

UP WANTED A DOCUMENT EVERY TIME THERE IS A DEVELOPME PRESENTED TO THE COURT IF ANYTHING VARIES FROM A RULE THAT OTHERWISE NO NOT HAVE IF CONSIDERING THE TRADITIONAL PLATTING PROCESS JUST FOR FRANCE PAREN PARENTHESES. IF THEY ARE APPROVING THIS NOT ALLOW THIS DEVELOP TO DO ANYTHING OUTSIDE WHAT IS DONE DURING A PLATTING PROCESS OR SAY HERE ARE THE ITEMS THAT WOULD -- THAT WOULD REQUIRE A VARIANCE FROM IN COMES COMMISSIONER COMMISSIONER FOR APPROVAL IF DONE THROUGH A TRADITIONAL

PLATTING PROCESS. >>JUDGE BECERRA: IN PART WHAT HAPPENS AT THE CITY LEVEL WITH A PD, A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT PDD, A WHOLE AGREED-UPON SET OF STRUCTURES MORE RESTRICTIVE THAN LESS RESTRICTIVE.

>>COMMISSIONER SHELL: THAT COULD BE THE CASE.

THE SECOND ONE, CONDOMINIUM. WE HAVE SEEN SEVERAL OF THOSE APPLICATIONS COULD AM BEFORE US AND HOW WE WILL APPLY THE REVIEW OF THE A CONDOMINIUM REGIME COMPARED TO THE TRADITIONAL SUBDIVISION. THESE ARE A FEW THINGS WE ARE SEEING COME TO UP AND I WANTED TO GIVE CLARIFICATION TO THE DEPARTMENT AS WELL AS THAT OFFICIAL DELEGATION FOR THOSE TIMELINE REASONS FOR MARCUS. PERFECT.

>>JUDGE BECERRA: IS THAT ACTUALLY RIGHT.

>> YES, JUDGE AND COMMISSIONER SHELL, ITEMS 5 AND 6 OF THE RESOLUTION. I KNOW IT CAN BE KINDS OF TRICKY, BUT A STANDARD TEMPLATE ON DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT THAT INCORPORATES WHAT IS IN AND THE DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS FOR THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT. ALREADY PROCESS THAT STAFF HAS MET SEVERAL TIMINGS TO OUTLINE THE TEMPLATE AND DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS ARE EWE INTO EBLG TO EVERYONE THAT WE GET AND STILL NOT THE SAME AND TO AT LEAST HAVE A STARTING POINT TOP SAY THIS IS WHERE THE COUNTY'S BASELINE IT FROM AND EVERYTHING YOU ARE PUTTING THAT IS NOT RESTRICTIVE AND NOT REQUESTING

CAN BE IMPLEMENTED. >>JUDGE BECERRA: WHEN YOU FINISH, MR. PACHECO, GRAB THE STACK WHICH IS THE NEW PROCESS.

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GIVE IT TO SOMEONE NOT IN YOUR DEPARTMENT AND REVIEW THIS AND SAY MAKE SURE WE DON'T HAVE REDUNDANCY.

TO A DOCTOR'S OFFICE. HOW MANY TIMES DO YOU NEED MY NAME. I DON'T WANT TO CREATE UNNECESSARY REDUNDANCIES IN OUR PROCESS AND ONE COHESIVE

DOCUMENT. >> THAT IS IN PART THE BIG REQUEST. NOT TO SAY ANY OF THESE ARE BIGGER THAN THE OTHERS, BUT WHEN IT COMES TO THE APPROVAL TIMELINES, OF TWO THEM WE HAVE TODAY IN THE AGENDA.

THIS IN ONE CASE, ONE ITEM THIS IS THE THIRD TIME IT IS ON THE COURT AGENDA TO GET AN OFFICIAL OPINION FROM THE COMMISSIONERS COMMISSIONERS COURT. OUR GOAL IS BE MORE EFFICIENT AND LESS REDUNDANT. WE WANT TO CHECK ALL THE BOXES AND IT JUST NEEDS FINAL COURT ACTION.

>>JUDGE BECERRA: I WILL SUGGEST WITH A SILLY RECOMMENDATION.

I AM VISUAL AND I LOVE -- IF YOU PAGE 1, WHEN YOU GIVE SOMEONE A STACK. HERE IS WHERE YOU ARE.

CLICK, CLICK, CLICK. THESE ARE THE STEPS THAT YOU WILL GO THROUGH WHEN IT IS ALL DONE.

SEE, ANTICIPATE AND PREPARE AND NOT SAY EYE TURNED THE CORNER AND I AM ALL DONE. NO, NO, NO, WAIT, THERE IS MORE.

I HOPE WE STAY AWAY FROM THAT AS HARD AS WE CAN.

>> FLOW CHARTS HAVE BEEN CREATED AND CAN USE MINOR REVISIONS WITH IMPLEMENTATION OF THE NEW LANGUAGE.

AND ONCE WE HAVE THOSE SOLIDIFIED AND DOCUMENTED TO GIVE IT TO YOU, COMMISSIONERS AND JUDGE.

>>JUDGE BECERRA: LEANER, EFFICIENT GOVERNMENT.

THIS IS THE LAST THING I WILL DAY, HAVE OUR GOVERNMENT SAY LEAN IN, SAY HOW CAN I HOPE AND GET OUT OF THE WAY.

GOOD JOB. I GUESS WE CAN CALL THE ROLL.

ORY, COMMISSIONER. >>COMMISSIONER SMITH: I WANT TO THANK COMMISSIONER SHELL FOR PULLING THIS TOGETHER AND I WANTED TO MAKE A FEW COMMENTS SPECIFIC TO THIS.

AS WE LOOK AT THE CHANGES THAT ARE MADE HERE, THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT I DON'T KNOW THAT THERE IS A REALIZATION WAS IN OUR COMMUNITY THAT WE NEED TO JUST -- I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT ANYBODY WHO IS WATCHING, ANYBODY WHO IS LIVING NEXT TO CURRENTLY PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT OR CONCERNED OF A CURRENTLY PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT OR CONSIDERING DOING A PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT. THE CHANGES AND RULES AND REGULATIONS -- THE CHANGES IN LAW THAT WERE PASSED BY THE LEGISLATURE THIS SESSION SPECIFICALLY PROMPTED SOME OF THE CHANGES IN THE RESOLUTION. AND THE THREE THINGS I WOULD SAY IS PROBABLY THE LARGEST CHANGE THAT WE WILL SEE.

AND I HAVE A VERY LARGE CONCERN OVER IN OUR BUDGET PROCESS, ACTUALLY, VICKI. WE KNOW WHAT WE ANTICIPATED IN THE BUDGET AND RELATIVE TO THE BUDGET -- WE CONSIDERED THE BUDGET RELATIVE TO THE DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DEPARTMENT.

THE SPECIFIC CHANGE ON THE REMOVAL OF PROPERTIES FROM ETJS ARE GOING TO HAVE A DIRECT IMPACT ON THE SIZE OF MARCUS AND COMMISSIONER INGALSBE SHAKING THEIR HEAD AND A DRAMATIC IMPACT I BELIEVE ON THE AMOUNT OF WORK AND THE AMOUNT OF LABOR NEEDED WITHIN THE DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DEPARTMENT.

THERE IS A PROVISION THAT MAY BE PASSED THAT ALLOWED ANY -- THAT ALLOWS ANY PROPERTY OWNER TO REMOVE THEMSELVS FROM THE ETJ FROM THE CITY. THAT BEING THE CASE, I KNOW OF PROBABLY A DOZEN OF THOSE AS THAT ARE HANG RIGHT NOW IN HAYS COUNTY. THOSE ARE -- HAPPENING RIGHT NOW IN HAYS COUNTY. NOSE ARE INDIVIDUAL PROPERTY OWNERS WITH TWO ACRES AND THE CITY OF KYLE MAY BE REQUIRING THEM TO INSTALL A WATER LINE WITH RAIN WATER COLLECTION AND DEDICATE 60 FOOT OF RIGHT-OF-WAY IN FRONT OF THEIR HOME.

IF THEY PETITION OUT OF THE ETJ, GUESS WHAT, WHATEVER THEY DECIDE TO DO ON THAT PROPERTY EVEN THOUGH IT IS A TWO-ACRE PROJECT, THAT BECOMES OUR PROJECT. THAT OR IF IT IS A 3,000-HOME DEVELOPMENT. I KNOW BOTH OF THOSE WHERE -- WHERE THE PROPERTY OWNERS OR THE DEVELOPERS ARE CONSIDERING THAT AND HAVE ALREADY FILED THOSE APPLICATIONS.

THOSE WILL PROBABLY HAVE TO BE CONSIDERED BY THE MUNICIPALITIES WITHIN A MONTH. THE PERFECT EXAMPLE OF THAT LCRA AND THEIR NEW FACILITY IN THE CITY OF SAN MARCOS.

THEY ARE PETITIONING OUT. THAT IS A MAJOR PROJECT.

THAT WILL FALL UNDER OUR PURVIEW, JUST AS AN EXAMPLE.

>> CAN CURRENTLY REVIEWING ANYTHING THAT HAPPENS IN THE ETJ. WE HAVE AGREEMENTS WITH THE CITY TO TAKE THE LEAD. FOR THE -- FOR EVERY ETJ IN -- IN THE COUNTY, WE ARE HAVING A LEVEL REVIEW INVOLVEMENT FOR SURE WITH THOSE PROJECTS. WHEN IT COMES TO THE DEANNEXATION WILL CHANGE FROM -- CERTAIN ITEMS IN THE REGULATION THAT WILL BE ALLOWED TO BE ENFORCED IN THE ETJ PURSUANT TO THE LOCAL AGREEMENTS AND EVERY ASPECT OF THE REGULATION TO BE

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ENFORCED. >>COMMISSIONER SMITH: RIGHT.

ONE OF THE BIGGEST ISSUE WITH THOSE ITEMS AND PROPERTIES WITHIN ETJ, THEY ARE WORKING THROUGH THE CITY PROCESS IT ALLOWS US TIME FOR CONSIDERATION AT THOSE POINTS AND REMOVED IN OUR PROCESS. THE WORKLOAD AND TIME FRAME FOR -- FOR RESPONSE IS CUT SIGNIFICANTLY ON BEHALF OF THE COUNTY. AGAIN, THE TIME -- THE TIMELINES -- THERE WERE SOME CLARIFICATION IN LAW AS FAR AS ALL OF OUR DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS HAVE TO BE IN THAT WINDOW.

SO IT IS REALLY GOING TO PUT OUR FEET TO THE FIRE IN THE COUNTY TO MEET THOSE THINGS. AND THE OTHER THING THAT I-- THAT I WOULD MENTION THAT IN ORDER TO HELP OUR -- BOTH THE -- BOTH THE OVERALL -- OUR CITIZENS TO A POINT THAT YOU MADE, JUDGE, AT THE END OF THE DAY, I ANTICIPATE COMING BACK WITH THE RESOLUTION FOR BOTH TRANSPORTATION AND -- FOR THE FIRE MARSHAL'S OFFICE AND START DISCUSSION WITH THOSE TWO OFFICES. AND WE HAD THEM IN THE PAST.

MORE FORMALIZED PROCESS WHEREBY BECAUSE WE HAVE SUCH A HIGH RATE OF GROWTH AND DEVELOPMENT HERE, SOME TIME OF CERTIFICATION PROCESS WHEREBY, FOR EXAMPLE, THE FIRE MARSHAL'S OFFICE OR THE TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT HAVING INSPECTION IN THE TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT WHERE IF WE CAN HAVE A CADRE OF THIRD PARTY INSPECTION SERVICES THAT MEET AND OR EXCEED THE QUALITY STANDARDS OF THE COUNTY BEING ABLE TO IF THEY CERTIFY IT, WE DO MORE OF A DESKTOP REVIEW INSTEAD OF HAVING TO SEND OUR FOLKS OUT THERE AND MAYBE NOT GET OUT THERE FOR THE NEXT TWO MONTHS. MAYBE HIT THOSE TIMELINES.

FIRE MARSHAL REVIEW. I KNOW ARE MIKE, WITHED THIS CONVERSATION AND I HAD A CONVERSATION WITH THE FIRE MALL SHALL. A CA IT,RE OF FIRE PROFESSIONALS WHEN THEY GET THEIR INSPECTIONS DONE THEY ARE WILLING TO PAY AN ADDITIONAL FEE TO SUBMIT THOSE DPIFRNGSS AND MOVE IT FORWARD IN

A FASHION. >>JUDGE BECERRA: HOW LONG HAS IT TAKEN A FIRE MARSHAL TO GO OUT AND INSPECT A SITE ONCE SOMEONE

IS READY? >>COMMISSIONER SMITH: WE ARE NOT

HITTING IT. >> MIKE JONES, EMERGENCY SERVICES. VARIES ON THE PROJECT.

IN SQUARE FOOTAGE AND STUFF. I CAN'T REALLY GIVE YOU A SPECIFIC ANSWER. WE HAVE 30 DAY TO TURN THE

PAPERWORK AROUND ONCE WE GET IT. >>JUDGE BECERRA: 30 DAY TO TURN THE PAPERWORK AROUND ONCE YOU GET IT.

>> WE HAVE HITTING THOSE DEADLINES, WOULD YOU AGREE,

MARCUS, IN MANY OF THE AREAS. >> FOR THE MOST PART, I WOULD AGREE. THE 30-DAY TIMELINE THAT HAS BEEN AGREED UPON HAS BEEN MET. WHAT COMMISSIONER SMITH ALLUDE TO FROM START TO FINISH, MANY DIFFERENT FACTORS WHETHER OUR DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DEPARTMENT, TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT, FIRE MARSHAL'S OFFICE, EACH BEING SEGMENTED AND NOT COHESIVE CAN ADD TO THE INCORPORATED TIMELINE.

THE EMPHASIS BEHIND THAT. >>JUDGE BECERRA: I AGREE WITH COMMISSIONER SMITH. TIME IS MONEY.

IT IS WHAT IT IS. MONEY MAKES THIS WORLD GO AROUND. AS LONG AS PRODUCTION OF A SITE, DEVELOPMENT OF A SITE SITS IDLE WAITING FOR SOMEONE TO CHECK A BOX OFFER IT HAS PASSED INSP INSPECTION. THAT IS AN EXPENSIVE DELAY.

I AM GLAD YOU ARE WORKING CLOSELY WITH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES THROUGH THE FIRE MARSHAL'S OFFICE TO RUN TIME LINES SIDE BY SIDE INSTEAD OF LETTING ONE FINISH AND THEN THE OTHER ONE START. BECAUSE THAT SOUNDS LIKE TIME

TOTAL TORTURE FOR ME. >> SOME OF THE IDIOSYNCRACIES OF THINGS THAT WEREN'T BY PRESIDENT CLIENT.

AND THE THIRD PARTY THAT COMMISSIONER SMITH IS TALKING ABOUT IS A VIABLE SOLUTION. NOT THE ONLY SOLUTION BUT A

GREAT ONE GOING FORWARD. >>JUDGE BECERRA: ESPECIALLY IF THE DEVELOPER, THE APPLICANT, IS INTERESTED IN NOT ONLY ENGAGING THAT BUT PAYING FOR IT. ABSOLUTELY.

I WHOLEHEARTEDLY SUPPORT THAT EFFORT AND THANK YOU BOTH AND

THANK YOU COMMISSIONER. >>COMMISSIONER SMITH: I WILL SAY THE FIRE MALL SH-- MARSHAL, WHEI HAD THE CONVERSATION WITH HIM, I AM NOT OUT OF THE REALM SAYING HE WAS SUPPORTIVE.

APPRECIATE THE HELP. >>COMMISSIONER COHEN: YES.

>>COMMISSIONER SHELL: YES. >>COMMISSIONER INGALSBE: YES.

>>COMMISSIONER SMITH: YES. >>JUDGE BECERRA: YES.

AND IF I AM NOT MISTAKEN, WE ARE ON TO K-7.

[K7. Discussion and possible action authorizing the execution of a Professional Services Agreement with WD Brown & Associates, PLLC regarding forensic financial investigation services and data analytics and amend the budget accordingly. INGALSBE]

>> K-7, DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION AUTHORIZING THE EXECUTION

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OF PROFESSIONAL SERVICE AGREEMENT WITH WD BROWN AND CACHE ASSOCIATES PLLC REGARDING FORENSIC FINANCIAL INVESTIGATION

SERVICES AND DATA ANALYTICS BE. >>COMMISSIONER INGALSBE: SO

MOVED. >>COMMISSIONER COHEN: SECOND.

>>JUDGE BECERRA: MARISOL. >> JUDGE, I THINK THIS IS

GENERAL COUNSEL ITEM. >>JUDGE BECERRA: YOU MADE A GESTURE THAT YOU WANTED TO SAY SOMETHING.

I AM ALWAYS PAYING ATTENTION. >> GOOD MORNING.

THIS ITEM CURRENT AND LIKELY FUTURE FINANCIAL CASES THAT THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE HAVE UNDERNEATH THEIR UMBRELLA AND THEIR DEPARTMENT FEELS AS THOUGH IT WILL HELP IN ASSISTANCE OF THAT SPECIFIC FIELD AND FOR CURRENT AND FUTURE FINANCIAL

INVESTIGATIONS. >>JUDGE BECERRA: WITH THIS -- WHAT LANE ARE YOU REFERRING TO FINANCIAL INVESTIGATIONS?

JUST UNDER -- >> UNDER THE UMBRELLA OF THE

SHERIFF'S OFFICE, UNDER CURRENT. >>JUDGE BECERRA: GOT IT.

>> HOW IT TANGENTIALLY WITH OTHER OFFICES.

>>JUDGE BECERRA: BLOOM INTO OTHER SPACES.

PERFECT. WONDERFUL.

PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. >>COMMISSIONER SHELL: YES.

>>COMMISSIONER INGALSBE: YES. >>COMMISSIONER SMITH: YES.

>>COMMISSIONER COHEN: YES. >>JUDGE BECERRA: YES.

[K8. Discussion and possible action to authorize the Human Resources Department to purchase two battery powered track stair chairs for safety purposes and amend the budget accordingly. INGALSBE/MILLER]

K- PLEASE. >> K-8, DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO AUTHORIZE THE HUMAN RESOURCES DEPARTMENT TO PURCHASE TWO BATTERY POWERED TRACK STAIR CHAIRS FOR SAFETY PURPOSES AND

AMEND THE BUDGET. >>COMMISSIONER INGALSBE: SO

MOVED. >>COMMISSIONER COHEN: SECOND.

>>JUDGE BECERRA: OKAY, MISS MILLER, ALL YOURS.

>> THANK YOU, SHERRY MILLER, HR DIRECTOR.

THESE ARE TWO BIG TICKET ITEMS THAT HAVE BEEN ON OUR NEED TO PURCHASE LIST FOR SOME TIME NOW. WE HAVE TWO BUILDINGS IN THE COUNTY THAT ARE MULTILEVEL. AND IN AN EMERGENCY SITUATION, IF WE HAVE AN EMPLOYEE OR A VISITOR THAT IS UNABLE TO MANEUVER THE STAIRS FOR WHATEVER REASON, THIS CHAIR WILL ASSIST OTHERS IN GETTING THOSE PEOPLE, IF THEY ARE ON THE SECOND OR THIRD FLOOR OF THE GOVERNMENT CENTER OR THIS BUILDING.

IT IS A CHAIR WITH A ROLLING TRACK ON THE BACK.

SO IT DOES NOT ATTACH TO THE STAIRWELL.

YOU WOULD -- WE WOULD NEED TO MANEUVER THE PERSON WHO IS UNABLE TO GO DOWN THE STAIRS. MOST BUILDINGS ARE -- IF THE ELEVATOR SHUT DOWN IF THE FIRE ALARM IS PULLED.

AND IF THEY DON'T SHUT DOWN, THEY SHOULD NOT BE UTILIZED IN AN EMERGENCY SITUATION. SO IF WE HAVE SOMEONE ON FLOORS TWO AND THREE, WE WOULD PULL THAT CHAIR OUT AND IT COLLAPSES SIMILAR TO A LAWN CHAIR. PULL THAT CHAIR OUT.

STRAP THE PERSON INTO THE CHAIR, AND THE CHAIR -- THE TRACK IS BATTERY OPERATED. AND WILL CLIMB DOWN THE STAIRS ONE STAIR AT A TTIME HAS TO BE SOMEBODY BEHIND TO HOLD ON TO THE CHAIR AND GUIDE IT DOWN THE STAIRS.

ESPECIALLY THROUGH THE -- THROUGH THE STAIRWELL TURNS.

>>JUDGE BECERRA: LET ME ASK YOU, SHERRY.

LET'S SAY I AM -- I AM THINKING OF SOMEONE IN AT THAT WHEELCHAIR ALREADY. THERE WILL BE A CHAIR IN THE WAY. THEY CAN WHEEL LIKE A LITTLE

RAMP MAYBE. >> THIS IS AN ACTUAL CHAIR.

>>JUDGE BECERRA: THEY HAVE TO GET OUT OF THEIR CHAIR.

>> THEY HAVE TO GET OUT OF THEIR CHAIR.

SOMEONE WILL HAVE TO TRANSPORT THEM FROM WHATEVER THEY ARE IN TO THIS CHAIR, WHICH HAS STRAPS -- IT HAS A SEAT BELT.

>>COMMISSIONER SMITH: FOR EMERGENCY PURPOSES ONLY.

>> EMERGENCY PURPOSES ONLY. NOT SOMETHING WE WOULD WANT TO USE JUST BECAUSE SOMEONE IS HAVING TROUBLE -- BECAUSE THE ELEVATORS WORKS IN THOSE SITUATIONS.

FOR EMERGENCY PURPOSES ONLY, WE WILL BE TRAINED.

WE WILL TRAIN THOSE IN THE BUILDING THAT ARE USUALLY HERE, THE CONSTABLES, HENRY, SOMEONE. THERE WILL HAVE TO BE SOME TRANSPORTATION OR MOVING OF THE PERSON FROM WHATEVER THEY ARE IN

TO THIS CHAIR. >>JUDGE BECERRA: THIS WILL ONLY

BE NEXT TO THE ELEVATORS. >> WE WILL FIND THE BEST STORAGE PLACE. IT COULD BE -- ON THIS BUILDING -- WE WILL DEFINITELY STORE ON THE SECOND OR THIRD FLOOR.

ONE PER BUILDING AND WE WILL STORE IN THE MOST REASONABLE LOCATION. THE CHAIR COLLAPSES SO A CLOSET

SIDE OF A WALL. >>JUDGE BECERRA: I THINK MIKE JONES WANTED TO SAY SOMETHING, IS THAT RIGHT.

>> MIKE JONES, DIRECTOR OF HAYS EMERGENCY SERVICES.

TO SUPPORT THIS, THE WHEELCHAIR, WE CAN NAVIGATE THEM DOWN THE STAIRS IN A WHEELCHAIR. THERE IS A PROCESS WE TRAIN OUR

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SERVICE MEMBERS. THE SAME THING WITH THE GOVERNMENT STAFF. SOMEBODY WHO DOESN'T HAVE A WHEELCHAIR AND HAVE A DIFFICULTY OF MOVING FASTER FOR AN EMERGENCY. THIS WILL GET THEM DOWN THE STAIRS IN A QUICK FASHION. IT CAN BE USED MORE THAN ONE TIME TO FACILITATE THAT PROCESS OF EVACUATION.

>>COMMISSIONER INGALSBE: IS THIS THE BEST OPTION, SHERRY, THAT Y'ALL HAVE FOUND. I THINK WE HAVE SEEN THOSE COMMERCIALS WHERE THERE IS A CHAIR THAT JUST KIND OF -- IT IS ON A TRACK ALSO, BUT IT KIND OF -- YOU DON'T NEED ASSISTANCE.

>> THOSE ATTACH TO THE STAIRWELLS.

AND WOULD TAKE UP SPACE IN THE STAIRWELLS.

AND IN THIS BUILDING, I AM NOT SURE IF THAT WOULD EVEN BE ACCEPTABLE FROM THE HISTORICAL COMMISSION.

IT IS BETTER THAN ONE OF US HAVING TO CARRY DOWN THE STAIRS.

CERTAINLY IF WE HAVE SOMEBODY WITH LIMITED MOBILITY, BUT THEY CAN MANEUVER DOWN THE STAIRS WITH ASSISTANCE BY THEMSELVES, THEN SOMEONE IS GOING TO COME ALONGSIDE THEM HOPEFULLY TO HELP THEM DOWN THE STAIRS. BUT THERE ARE MANY PEOPLE WHO CANNOT. AND TOP -- TO EVACUATE A BUILDING IN A FIRE ALARM AND EVACUATION.

THAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN EXPEDITIOUSLY.

THE POINT IS TO GET OUT AND TO GET OUT QUICK.

>>JUDGE BECERRA: WE ALL I AGREE HE WITH WHAT YOU ARE SAYING AND COMMISSIONER INGALSBE AND I SO FAR.

HAVEN'T LOOKED TOO MUCH IN THE OTHER SPACES.

WE FEEL THOUGH WE ARE NOT DOUBLE CHECKING OR SECOND-GUESSING YOU GUYS IN ANY WAY. WE AGREE WITH YOUR MESSAGE, WE JUST DON'T KNOW -- BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW.

WE HAVE NOT DONE THE RESEARCH. WE DON'T AGREE NECESSARILY THAT NIGHT BE THE BEST INSTRUMENT TO ACCOMPLISH THE GOAL.

>> I AM NOT MARRIED TO THE CHAIR PARTICULARLY.

BUT WE DO NEED SOME -- >>JUDGE BECERRA: SLIDE? JUST KIDDING. TUBE.

>> I AM NOT SURE THAT IS THE BEST IDEA EITHER.

[LAUGHTER] >>JUDGE BECERRA: I AM JUST --

>> THERE ARE RAMPS. THERE ARE RAMPS AND SLIDES.

WE KNOW THAT COMES OUT OF THE AIR -- OUT OF A AIRPLANE DOOR, RIGHT. WHEN YOU VOLUNTEER TO SIT IN A SPECIAL DOORWAY. THAT WILL COME OUT OF THAT

AIRPLANE DOOR. >>JUDGE BECERRA: WE TRUST YOU GUYS YOU ARE DOING THE BEST OF COURSE.

>> WE HOPE NEVER TO USE THEM. WE HOPE THEY REST BEFORE WE USE

THEM. >>JUDGE BECERRA: SEEMS A SNAIL'S PACE. AND THEN YOU HAVE TO HAVE SOMEONE THERE OR ELSE YOU ARE S.O. L\.

>> YOU WILL NEED TO HAVE SOMEONE THERE ANYWAY TO HELP SOMEONE GET DOWN. AND WE HOPE THAT SOMEONE THAT NEEDS HELP IS VOCAL AND SAYS, HEY, I -- I CAN'T DO THIS.

>>JUDGE BECERRA: THAT IS MY CONCERN.

A LOT OF HOPE IN THERE. >> SURE, YEAH.

>>JUDGE BECERRA: COMMISSIONERS, ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS? LIKE YOU SAID, EVERYONE IN A MILLION IS THE HOPE THAT WE WILL NEVER NEED IT. I AGREE.

YOU BET. THANK YOU FOR HUMORING US WITH THESE QUESTIONS. PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

>>COMMISSIONER SMITH: YES. >>COMMISSIONER SHELL: YES.

>>COMMISSIONER INGALSBE: YES. >>COMMISSIONER COHEN: YES.

>>JUDGE BECERRA: YES. AND M-2 PLEASE.

[M2. Discussion related to the Hays County inmate population, to include current population counts and costs. BECERRA]

M-2, DISCUSSION RELATED TO HAYS COUNTY INMATE POPULATION TO INCLUDE CURRENT POPULATION COUNTS AND COSTS.

WE ARE ALREADY THERE. MOVED THROUGH THE AGENDA.

SEND REPORT OF JAIL CAPACITY. DAILY AVERAGE 544.

PEAK WAS 573 ON AUGUST 34. AND 159825.

AND THE AVERAGE NUMBER IS 40 AND FEMALE ARE SIX.

AND HOUSED IN COMAL, PAPER READY INMATES OR INMATES THAT HAVE SEEN THEIR WAY THROUGH OUR JUDICIAL PROCESS.

AND ARE STATE INMATES READY TO SERVE WHATEVER TERMS OR TIME WAS AFFORDED THEM. 146 PAPER READY INMATES STATE INMATES AND STATE DOLLARS THAT CAN BE USED TO HOUSE THEM NOT COUNTY DOLLARS. AND SO I AM JUST WONDER GOING WE CAN MAKE SURE THESE 46 ARE BEING SENT TO HAS KELL.

THEY WILL BE USEFUL FOR US. IF ANYTHING ELSE ON THE FRONT.

EXECUTIVE ITEM. GOOD TO GO WITH IT.

[L. EXECUTIVE SESSIONS]

>> WE ARE PREPARED WITH EXECUTIVE SESSION.

>>JUDGE BECERRA: OPEN L-1. >> LA.

EXECUTIVE SESSION PURSUANT TO 551.071 AND.072 OF THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE, CONSULTATION WITH THE COUNSEL AND DEB RIGS WITH PARKS AND OPEN SPACE PROJECT BEING CONSIDERED BY HAYS COUNTY POSSIBLE DISCUSSION AND ACTION MAY FOLLOW IN OPEN

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FROM EXECUTIVE SESSION. AND COMMISSIONER SHELL, YOU HAVE

A MOTION. >>COMMISSIONER SHELL: WHY HE IS.

THIS MOTION FOR ITEM L-1. WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION RELATED TO THE PURCHASE OF FEE TITLE AT 102.8 ACRES OF THE LSIC TRACK NORTH AND NORTHWEST OF SAN MARCOS IN PRECINCT, TO NEGOTIATE AND FINALIZE THE GRAZING LEASE ON THE PROPERTY FROM THE DATE OF

CLOSING THROUGH FEBRUARY 2024. >>JUDGE BECERRA: GOOD.

WE HAVE THREE SECONDS. CALL THE ROLL.

>>COMMISSIONER COHEN: YES. >>COMMISSIONER SHELL: YES.

>>COMMISSIONER INGALSBE: YES. >>COMISSIONER SMITH: YES.

>>JUDGE BECERRA: YES. COMMISSIONER SHELL.

>>COMMISSIONER SHELL: FINAL IS TO ANOURN.

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