[A. CALL TO ORDER]
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>> I WOULD LIKE TO CALL THIS MEETING TO ODDER.
THIS MORNING'S INVOCATION WILL BE READ BY PASTOR LOKHART.
IF YOU WILL PLEASE ALL RISE. >> I WANT TO SAY GOOD MORNING TO JUDGE BACERRA AND THE COMMISSIONERS AND THE HONOR TO BE HERE THIS MORNING. THANK YOU.
LET'S PRAY. LORD, GOD, WE PRAY FOR THE COURT AND PROCEED PROCEEDINGS THIS MORNING.
WE PRAY FOR THE WISDOM, KNOWLEDGE AND UNDERSTANDING TOWARD RESOLVING ALL PROBLEMS PRESENTED TODAY.
ANOINT JUDGE BACERRA, GOD, WITH A GREAT DISCERNMENT IN THIS COURT TO DO YOUR PERFECT WILL. WE PRAY FOR A GOOD TIME FOR OUR JUNIOR HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS AND THEIR FAMILIES AND TEACHERS DURING THIS DARK TIME TO BE COMFORTED BY YOUR PEACE AND LOVE. WE PRAY FOR THE MOVE OF GOD FOR THE WRIGHT FAMILY FOR THE RELEASING OF THEIR VIDEO, LORD GOD. THANK YOU, LORD, FOR BRINGING OUR COMMUNITY TOGETHER IN THE SPIRIT OF YOUR LOVE WITH HUMANITY AND JUSTICE. WE THANK YOU, FATHER, AS YOU BRING SOLUTIONS AND ANSWERS, SOLUTIONS AND ANSWERS TO MULTIPLE, LORD GOD, NEEDS AND DESIRES AND JUST LORD GOD LONGINGS FOR RIGHTS. I THANK YOU, FATHER GOD FOR ANOINTING THIS GROUP OF LEADERS LORD GOD TO DO THEIR BEST, AND LORD GOD UH TPHOEUPT -- ANOINT THEM TO GO BEYOND IN A GREAT WAY, LORD GOD TO GIVE YOU GLORY IN YOUR NAME, IN JESUS' NAME,
I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.
AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS.
ONE NATION UNDER GOD INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. HONOR THE TEXAS FLAG.
I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THEE. TEXAS, ONE STATE UNDERGOD ONE AN UNTKAU VISIBLE. ONE AN INDIVISIBLE.
>> WILL YOU PLEASE CALL ROLL. >> COMMISSIONER INGALSBE.
>> HERE. >> COMMISSIONER COMMISSIONER
>> COMMISSIONER SHELL. >> HERE.
>> COMMISSIONER SMITH. >> HERE.
[E. PUBLIC COMMENTS]
>> THOSE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO SUBMITTED A PUBLIC PARTICIPATION WITNESS FORM WILL HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.
UNFORTUNATELY NO ACTION MAY BE TAKEN BY THE COURT IN PUBLIC COMENTS AS WE ARE EXPECTED NOT TO RESPOND.
ANY COMMENTS WILL BE TAKEN AS RHETORICAL -- ANY QUESTIONS WILL BE TAKEN AS RHETORICAL. THE COMMENTS ARE NOT NECESSARILIMENT TO BE CONSTRUED AS TRUTH.
PLEASE MAKE YOUR COMMENTS CIVIL AND RESPECTFUL OR YOU WILL FORFEIT THE REMAINDER OF YOUR TIME.
IN THE SPIRIT OF RESPECT, PLEASE SILENCE YOUR CELL PHONES.
JUST DOUBLE CHECK AND MAKE SURE YOUR PHONES ARE SILENT.
THAT'S ALL I ASK. PUBLIC COMMENTS, FIRST UP TO SPEAK MR. OSENA. THANK YOU, SIR.
>> THANK YOU, JUDGE BACERRA AND COMMISSIONERS FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK. I WANT TO SPEAK OF THE CONUNDRUM OF THE ABSENTEE VOTES IN THE 2020 ELECTION.
IN THE 2020 ELECTION THERE WERE 12,454 ABSENTEE VOTES CERTIFIED BY THE COUNTY. IN NOVEMBER OF 2021, WE SENT A PUBLIC INFORMATION REQUEST FOR ALL THE ABSENTEE BALLOT APPLICATIONS. WE RECEIVED 10,602 OUT OF WHICH 2,951 COULD NOT BE CONSIDERED VALID TO SUPPORT THE BALLOT ABSENTEE VOTE FOR A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT REASONS WE HAVE PRESENTED TO THIS COURT IN THE PAST.
AT THE REQUEST OF THE ELECTIONS OFFICE WE PROVIDED THE HR*EUTS -- THE LIST OF 4,803 MISSING APPLICATIONS.
UP UNTIL TODAY, THOSE APRIL LAW LOCATIONS ARE NOWHERE TO BE SEEN. THOSE THOSE GHOST APPLICATIONS REPRESENT NEARLY 39% OF THE 2020 ABSENTEE BALLOTS CERTIFIED BY THE COUNTY. THEY EITHER ARE MISPLACED OR GOT LOST OR SIMPLY NEVER EXISTED. WE BELIEVE A YEAR AND THREE
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MONTHS FOR SUCH A BIG NUMBERTO BE MISPLACED IS HIGHLY IMPOSSIBLE. WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT.THE COUNTY HAS THE LIST. WE WERE GIVEN 2,951 INVALID APPLICATIONS. WHY IS IT SO DIFFICULT TO FIND THE VALID ONES. LET'S CONSIDER THEY EXISTED, BUT GOT LOST. HOW THAT COULD HAVE HAPPENED TO SUCH A BIG NUMBER OF APPLICATIONS? DO YOU THINK WE WOULD KNOW WHO IS RESPONSIBLE? ALSO, WHO IS TO SAY THOSE APPLICATIONS WERE PROPERLY FILLED? WHO IS TO SAY THEIR SIGNATURES MATCH WITH THE ENVELOPES? WH IS TO SAY THEY HAD A CORRESPONDING ENVELOPE? LET'S CONSIDER THEY NEVER EXISTED. THEN THE QUESTION IS WHY WERE THOSE VOTES EVER COUNTED? SHOULD THE BURDEN OF PROOF TO CERTIFY THE VALIDITY OF THE VOTES BE ON THE COUNTY SOME WOULD SAY YES WITH CAPITAL LETTERS.
LET'S NOT DWELL IN THE PAST FOR A MOMENT.
GOING FORWARD WE NEED TO REALIZE THAT ALL OF THOSE BALLOTS WENT THROUGH THE MACHINES. THE MACHINES DO NOT HAVE EYES TO DISTINGUISH IF A BALLOT HAS A VALID APPLICATION OR A VALID ENVELOPE. ONCE THE BALLOTS GO THROUGH THE TABULATOR AND TO A DEPOSITORY BOX NO ONE CAN DISTINGUISH THE VALID ONES FROM THE INVALID ONES AND THE COUNTY COULD END UPSETTER TPAOEUING ANY -- END UP CERTIFYING AN ELECTION WITH BALLOTS AND NO VALIDITY. WE HAVE MORE TO SAY ABOUT THE APPLICATIONS IN THE 2020 ELECTION.
IN THE BENEFIT OF TIME WE WILL LEAVE IT FOR LATER ON OR UNTIL THE COURT MAKES A DECISION TO GO BACK TO PAPER BALLOTS.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR. >> IS THAT THE ONLY ONE I SEE UNDER THAT ONE? I HAVE COPIES THAT WERE GIVEN TO ME AND I WILL SHARE THEM WITH THE COURT.
THANK YOU, SIR. SO THAT MOVES US INTO F1.
>> INTRODUCTION OF THE NEW 4H AND YOUTH PROGRAM COORDINATOR, SIERRA MURRAY TO THE HAYS COUNTY COMMISSIONER'S COURT.
[Items F2 - F7, K4 & K5]
>> I'M SORRY. >> ONE THING WE HAVE IS A DEDICATION TO EACH AGENDA ITEM. LET'S GO TO 2.
>> F2, PRESENTATION BY ARDURRA REGARDING USE OF AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN ACT FUNDS FOR THE SOUTH SIDE COMMUNITY CENTER.
F3, PRESENTATION BY ARDURRA REGARDING USE OF AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN FUNDS FOR THE KZSM, SAN MARCOS TEXAS COMMUNITY RADIO ASSOCIATION. F4, PRESENTATION BY, A RDURRA REGARDING USE OF THE ARPA FUNDS FOR THE LONE STAR CATTLE MEN FOUNDATION. F5, PRESENTATION BY ARDURRA REGARDING USE OF THE ARPA FUNDS FOR THE HAYS COUNTY LIVESTOCK EXPOSITION. AND F6 PRESENTATION BY ARDURRA REGARDING USE OF ARPA FUNDS FOR THE WIMBERLEY VILLAGE LIBRARY FOUNDATION. AND F7 PRESENTATION BY ARDURRA REGARDING THE USE OF THE ARPA FUNDS FOR THE HAYS COUNTY OFFICE
OF EMERGENCY SERVICES FIRST NET. >> THERE YOU GO.
>> WE WILL START WITH THE SOUTH SIDE.
THEY PROVIDE MINISTRIES FOR THE HOMELESS, WOMEN, KIDS, VITAL T THE COMMUNITY. FREE MEALS AND ALL THAT.
UNFORTUNATELY THEY SUFFERED A REVENUE LOSS DURING THE PANDEMIC. CALCULATING THAT OUT WE ARE AWARDING THEM -- WE ARE PROPOSING A GRANT OF 103, $629.
$103, 629 AND THAT WILL HELP WITH THE REVENUE LOSS AND THE NEEDS OF THE COMMUNITY. KZSM IS A SUB RECIPIENT AGREEMENT. THEY ARE TAKING OVER THE EMERGENCY RADIO LICENSE KZOS. THIS FUNDING WOULD ALLOW THEM TO TEST, TRANSFER AND SET UP THE EMERGENCY RADIO SYSTEM.
THEY ARE TAKING OVER THE STATE LICENSE.
THIS FALLS UNDER THE EMERGENCY RESPONSE EQUIPMENT ELIGIBILITY AND THROUGH THAT SUB RECIPIENT AGREEMENT WOULD BE A $50,000 REWARD TO PERFORM THESE FUNCTIONS.
THE LSC FOUNDATION, THEY RAISE FUNDS FOR FUTURE FARMERS OF AMERICA AND 4H PROJECT AWARDS. SIMILAR TO THE LIVESTOCK EXPOSE
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THEY ARE SIMILAR SET UPS AND BOTH HAVE A GRANT AWARD FOR YOU SO THEY WOULD BE BENEFICIARIES RELATED TO THEIR REVENUE LOSS WITH THE LSC FOUNDATION GETTING A GRANT FOR $50,000 ANDLIVESTOCK EXPO $33,702. >> JUDGE, WE HAVE SOMEONE HERE FROM BOTH THE LOAN STAR CATTLE MEN FOUNDATION AS WELL AS FROM THE HAYS COUNTY LIVESTOCK EXPOSITION.
YOU MIGHT WANT TO GIVE THEM AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK ON EACH OF
KEEP GOING. MY PLAN IS, JUST SO YOU KNOW, LET YOU SPEAK, HAVE PUBLIC COMMENTS AND THEN HAVE THOSE WHO REPRESENT THE ORGANIZATION SPEAK AS WELL IN THAT ORDER.
>> OKAY. AND SO THEN WE HAVE THE WIMBERLE LIBRARY FOUNDATION WHICH IS SET UP TO RAISE FUNDS FOR WIMBERLEY VILLAGE LIBRARY. THEY HAVE A COUPLE OF THINGS GOING ON. THEY HAD REVENUE LOSS RELATED TO FUNDRAISING AND ALSO JUST INCREASING IN THEIR CONSTRUCTION BUDGETARY LATED TO THE PANDEMIC. THROUGH THIS WE ARE GOING TO OFFER UP ANOTHER GRANT AWARD OF $150,000 TO HELP THEM RECOVER THE REVENUE LOSS AND LOSS -- AND ALSO RECOVER THE INCREASE COSTS DUE TO THE PANDEMIC. WE ALSO HAVE -- SO FIRSTNET IS FOR THE OFFICE OF EMERGENCY SERVICES.
IT IS ANOTHER EMERGENCY RESPONSE SYSTEM AND THIS WOULD ALLOW THE COUNTY TO SET UP BASICALLY AN IMPROMPTU BROADBAND SERVICE IN THE EVENT OF A DISASTER. THIS IS A COUPLE OF -- THERE IS A COUPLE OF COMPONENTS TO THAT INCLUDING THE BROADBAND SERVICE AS WELL AS THIS COMPACT DEPLOYABLE.
CURRENTLY THE GRANT BEFORE US IS 85,000 TO PURCHASE THAT EQUIPMENT. AND IT IS TO PROCURE THAT SERVICE. THERE MIGHT BE A SLIGHT CHANGE IN THE VALUE RELATED TO AN INCREASED SERVICE ON THE BROAD BAND AND I WILL ADDRESS THAT IN A FUTURE WRITE UP IN A FUTURE
PRESENTATION. >> WE DON'T HAVE THE VACCINE?
>> PLEASE OPEN K5 AS WELL SO HE CAN SPEAK ON THAT.
>> K5, DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO AUTHORIZE USE OF FUNDING FROM THE HAYS COUNTY AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN RECOVERY GRANT FOR THE HAYS COUNTY LOCAL HEALTH DEPARTMENT MOBILE VACCINE FACILITY REGARDING RECOVERY ASSISTANCE FOR DIRECT OR INDIRECT IMPACTS OF COVID-19 AND TO AMEND THE BUDGET ACCORDINGLY.
>> THANK YOU. >> AND NOW CONTINUE.
>> YES. SO THIS IS FOR ADDITIONAL COUNTY PURCHASES. THIS IS TO PROVIDE THE REMAINING PORTION OF A GRANT TO PURCHASE A MOBILE VACCINE UNIT.
YOU KNOW, WE'RE PAST THE POINT OF MASS VACCINATION CENTERS AND TO BETTER SERVE THE COMMUNITY AND THE PUBLIC AND MOST SRUL -- VULNERABLE A MOBILE VACCINE FACILITY WOULD A LOU -- ALLOW THE COUNTY'S HEALTH DEPARTMENT TO GO INTO THE COMMUNITIES AND PROVIDE WHATEVER VACCINATIONS ARE NECESSARY, WHETHER IT IS THE FLU, COVID-19 OR THE NEXT PANDEMIC.
>> WHAT I'M GOING TO DO NEXT IS LET OUR SPEAKER THAT SIGNED UP TO SPEAK AND THEN WE WILL GO INTO THAT SPACE, COMMISSIONER.
>> WE ACTUALLY HAVE ONE MAURY LATED TO ARPA I MIGHT ASK TO
OPEN AND THAT IS K4. >> PLEASE OPEN K4.
>> K4, DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO AUTHORIZE THE COUNTY JUDGE TO EXECUTE THE SOCIAL SERVICE FUNDING AGREEMENTS BETWEEN HAYS COUNTY AND WIMBERLEY INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICT, SAN MARCOS INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICT, HAYES INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICT AND DRIPPING SPRINGS INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICT REGARDING RECOVERY ASSISTANCE FOR DIRECT OR INDIRECT IMPACTS OF COVID-19 AND BEHAVIOR HEALTHCARE SERVICES AND AMEND THE BUDGET ACCORDINGLY.
>> SO THIS WAS PREVIOUSLY AT COURT.
THIS IS THE SUB RECIPIENT AGREEMENT THAT IS UP FOR A VOTE THAT WOULD ALLOW EACH OF THE ISD'S TO RECEIVE $200,000 TO PERFORM BEHAVIORAL AND MENTAL HEALTH SUPPORT FOR THEIR
STUDENTS HOW THEY SEE FIT. >> THANK YOU.
AND NOW IF YOU WILL PLEASE YIELD THE PODIUM FOR A MOMENT.
MR. RODRIGO, HAVE YOU THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK ABOUT THE SOUTH SIDE COMMUNITY CENTER AGENDA ITEM F2.
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>> F2. >> DID YOU SIGN UP FOR THE
OTHERS? >> I SIGNED UP FOR CITIZENS COMMENTS SO I DIDN'T TURN IN BECAUSE THE PAPARAZZI CAME IN
EARLIER. >> WE WILL GO TO THE SOUTH SIDE COMMUNITY CENTER. LOOKING AT SOME OF THE BACK PAPERWORK FOR THAT STUFF, THERE HAS BEEN A LOT OF CONCERN OVER THE YEARS. I KNOW THE FORMER DIRECTOR, WHATEVER HE WAS, 30 SOME YEARS, PASSED AWAY.
I HEARD THE SPEAKER TALK ABOUT RELIEF DURING THE INCLEMENT WEATHER. A COUPLE YEARS BACK MADE A BUNCH OF CALLS BECAUSE IT WAS RECORDED THAT IT WAS NOT AN EMERGENCY SHELTER SO DON'T COME. THERE IS CONCERN ABOUT WHAT IS GOING ON OVER THERE. I HAVE A BIG PROBLEM WITH THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS. A LOT OF FOLKS THAT SIT ON THAT ARE ALL RELATED OR IN POSITIONS OF -- JP POSITIONS WHICH IS A CLEAR CONFLICT OF INTEREST. AND NOW ALL OF THIS MONEY, I THINK IT WAS A HUNDRED AND SOMETHING THOUSAND, BEING ALLOCATED FOR THE SOUTH SIDE. MY CONCERN IS THIS, LIKE EVERYTHING ELSE. YOU KNOW, WHERE IS THE ACCOUNTABILITY? WHO IS LOOKING TO SEE WHERE EVERYTHING IS GOING? THERE IS A LOT OF STUFF THAT IS HAPPENING OVER THERE THAT IS CONCERNING TO FOLKS THAT KNOW WHAT TO LOOK FOR, YOU KNOW. WE PUT FOLKS OUT THERE TO VIDEOTAPE AND FOLLOW A LOT OF THE DONATIONS.
THERE SAW LOT OF MISMANAGING OF MATERIALS AND RESOURCES OUT THERE. IT NEEDS TO STOP.
YOU OUGHT TO SEE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT HAPPEN OVER THERE, THE WAY THEY HAVE FOLKS SHELTERED UP AND SET UP WITH THD STUFF. IT IS UNACCEPTABLE.
IT IS VERY DANGEROUS. I VOLUNTEERED AT THE FOOD BANK.
I KNOW A LOT OF THE FOOD BANK STUFF WENT OVER THERE.
WHERE IS THE DIFFERENCE? WHERE IS THE SAVINGS? WHERE IS THIS STUFF GOING. I AM TIRED OF THROW, THROWING THROWING MONEY AND THEY CAN DO WHATEVER THEY WANT.
I CAN SEE THE CONDITIONS OF THE MISS SPENDING AND ALL OF THAT STUFF. THAT'S MY CONCERN WITH SOUTH SIDE COMMUNITY CENTER. THE OTHER ONE I SIGNED UP THAT
HE BROUGHT UP IS -- ON THERE? >> YOU SIGNED UP UP FOR F4?
>> RESTART THE TIMER FOR F4. >> THE CONCERN I HAVE WITH THAT, IF YOU LOOK AT THE BENEFICIARY UNDER THE PLANNED RECOVERY GRANT AGREEMENT, I AM JUST WONDERING IS FREDERICKSBURG, ANY PART OF FREDERICKSBURG IN HAYS COUNTY? THAT'S ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS THAT STICKS OUT TO ME. I KNOW IT IS A $50,000 GRANT.
THE OTHER THING THAT STICKS OUT TO ME IS THAT SOME MENTION OF A GALA? THEY ARE FUNDING EFFORTS FOR A GALA? THEY LOST MONEY BECAUSE OF A GALA OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT? IT IS NOT OUR COUNTY'S RESPONSIBILITY TO BE SUPPLEMENTING LOSSES FOR GALAS AND STUFF LIKE THAT. I KNOW THAT'S A BIG POW WOW FOR FOLKS WHO HAVE STATUS TO GO OUT AND SHOW SOF THEIR THREADS AND ALL -- SHOW OFF THEIR THREADS. WE WERE ALWAYS TAUGHT DON'T F WITH FARMERS. I ALWAYS HAD A BIG CONCERN ABOUT THE TAX BREAKS -- THEY CALL THEM SUBSIDIES AND THE EUPHEMISMS THAT THEY USE, BUT IT IS WELFARE.
HAVE I A PROBLEM WITH THE REGISTRATION ISSUES ON THE FARM TAGS. WHEN I WAS A TROOPER THAT'S WHAT I FOCUSED ON. THOSE ARE ALL CONCERNS ABOUT THE TAX BREAKS AND STUFF LIKE THAT. AND NOW YOU HAVE $50,000 BEING ALLOCATED TO HELP BECAUSE THEY LOST MONEY FROM A GALA.
AND LIKE I SAID, THE MAIN THING I WANT TO KNOW IS FREDERICKSBURG IN ANYWAY, SHAPE OR FORM ANYWHERE IN HAYS COUNTY SO WE CAN JUST SOME OF THE THINGS THAT POPPED UP.
>> WELL SAID. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
I APPRECIATE IT COMMISSIONER COMMISSIONER INGALSBE WE CAN START WITH YOU ON THE OUT SIDE POINTS.
>> THIS IS JUST A PRESENTATION AND WE WILL WILL BE BACK IN COURT FOR FURTHER ACTION TO CONSIDER THE ALLEGATION.
THEY HAD BEEN IN OPERATION SINCE 1927 AND PROVIDED LOTS OF COMMUNITY MEETINGS AND AS STATED IT IS A TRANSITIONAL SHELTER.
THERE IS FREE AND DAILY COMMUNITY MEALS.
THEY HAVE A SUMMER WORK CAMP THAT RENOVATES LOW INCOME HOMES AND THEY HAVE MANY OTHER SUB ASSISTS.
THERE IS NEW LEADERSHIP AT THE CENTER.
THE DIRECTOR AS STATED DID PASS AWAY AFTER 30 YEARS OF SERVICE.
I THINK WE ALSO HAVE DEBORAH DE ALFANDO IS SUPPOSED TO BE HERE FOR SOUTH SIDE AND I DON'T KNOW IF SHE IS HERE AND MAYBE YOU WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK OF THE SERVICES, DEBORAH, Y'ALL
PROVIDED AT THE CENTER. >> YES, MA'AM.
WE DO PROVIDE A DAILY MEAL, EVERY DAY AT 4 P.M., MONDAY THROUGH SUNDAY. AND WE ALSO PROVIDE BREAKFAST ON
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SUNDAY MORNINGS FROM 9 TO 10. WE DO GIVE OUT CLOTHING VOUCHERS AND SHOES AND WORK BOOTS. WE HAVE TRANSITIONAL HOUSING AVAILABLE ON OUR FACILITY, AND WE ALSO DO SPECIFIC UH LISTENS.SPECIFIC ASSISTANCE. WE HELP TOWARD UTILITY AND WE HELP TOWARD RENTAL ASSISTANCE. WE ALSO OFFER BACKPACKS, SLEEPING BAGS, WATER, SNACKS, BREAKFAST AS WELL MONDAY THROUGH SUNDAY. AND SO THERE IS A LOT OF THINGS THAT WE OFFER. WE ARE THE ONLY ONES THAT HAVE THE EMERGENCY SHELTER DURING WINTER AS WELL AS DURING THE HEAT WHEN IT IS OVER A HUNDRED DEGREES.
YES WE DO OFFER A LOT OF AMENITIES TO THE HOMELESS IN
>> AND JUDGE, ONE THING AND MAYBE MARISOL CAN SPEAK ON THE ACCOUNTABILITY AND THE WAY FUNDS CAN SPENT.
>> YES. HAYS COUNTY AUDITOR, WE HAVE IT STIPULATED IN OUR CONTRACT AS A BENEFICIARY, THEY WILL RECEIVE 50% OF THEIR ALLOTMENT UP FRONT AND THEN AFTER THAT THEY ARE TO TURN IN ALL OF THEIR SUPPORTING DOCUMENTS INCLUDING FOR ANY EXPENDITURES THAT ARE MADE FOR REVIEW IN MY OFFICE AS PART OF THE SINGLE AUDIT FOR THESE FUNDS.
WE ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR MONITORING AND AUDITING THE EXPENDITURES AND WE WILL WORK WITH THE SOUTH SIDE COMMUNITY CENTER AND ALL OF THE OAR BENEFICIARIES TO ENSURE THAT WE HAVE AUDITED AND REVIEWED THE DOCUMENTS BEFORE FINAL PAYMENT.
>> THANK YOU. >> COMMISSIONER, DID YOU WAPLT
TO -- WANT TO ADDRESS ANYTHING? >> I WOULD LIKE TO TALK ON A COUPLE THINGS HERE AND JUST WALK THROUGH THEM.
>> YES, SIR. >> THE FIRST THING I WOULD LIKE TO TALK ABOUT VERY SPECIFICALLY IS THE LOAN STAR CATTLE MEN FOUNDATION AND HAYS COUNTY LIVESTOCK EXPOSITION.
THESE TWO ORGANIZATIONS AND I'LL USE THEM SPECIFICALLY, I THINK IT'S QUITE OBVIOUS THERE WASN'T A REAL DEEP PER VIEW OF THE BACKGROUND INFORMATION FROM THE PUBLIC SPEAKER BECAUSE THESE TWO ORGANIZATIONS THAT OPERATED HERE IN HAYS COUNTY FOR A VERY LONGTIME. THEY DIRECTLY BENEFIT THE YOUTH OF HAYS COUNTY. THE FUNDING WE ARE TALKING ABOUT TODAY IS SPECIFICALLY REVENUE LOSS DURING THE COVID PERIOD THAT WE EXPERIENCED. IF YOU LOOK AND MARE RAW -- MARISOL OR ERIC MAY WANT TO CLARIFY, THIS BUT WE LOOK AT THE 501C3 AND HOW THEY SUSTAINED COVID.
DID THEY SUSTAIN SUPPORT FOR THE COMMUNITY THEY HAD IN THE PAST? IT IS OBVIOUS THAT NEITHER OF THE ORGANIZATIONS WERE ABLE TO DO THAT. BY LOOKING AT THE FEDERAL INCOME TAX -- OR THE FEDERAL TAX DOCUMENTS AND THE 501C3 FILINGS, THAT'S WHAT WE BASE THIS OFF OF. BOTH OF THESE ORGANIZATIONS, I WILL TALK ABOUT THE LIVESTOCK BOARD FIRST.
THEY ARE TRULY A FAR, FAR-REACHING ORGANIZATION IN OUR COMMUNITY. THEY TOUCH EVERY COMMUNITY IN HAYS COUNTY WHILE THE LIVESTOCK SHOW AND RODEO IS ACTUALLY HELD IN DRIPPING SPRINGS NOW AT THE RANCH PARK WHICH THE -- WHICH I WOULD BE REMISS IF I I DIDN'T SAY THE COUNTY PAID $6 MILLION INTO THAT FACILITY. THEY HAVE STEPPED UP AND BEEN THERE FOR OUR YOUTH SINCE THE INCEPTION IN THE LIVESTOCK SHOW.
THE LONE STAR CATTLE MEN ACTUALLY PRODUCE -- AND THIS MAY BE WHERE THE GAY -- WHERE THE GALA COMMENT CAME.
I WILL TALK ABOUT IT ON K4 AS WELL, BUT THEY HAVE EVENTS SPECIFICALLY TO FUNDRAISE AND TO SPEND MONEY ON YOUTH.
EVERY DOLLAR THAT THEY HAVE GOES RIGHT BACK INTO THE YOUTH OF OUR COMMUNITY AND IS SPENT AT THE HAYS COUNTY LIVESTOCK SHOW OR THE SURROUNDING LIVESTOCK SHOWS ON THE HAYS COUNTY YOUTH.
WE KNOW THE FUNDS WILL COME BACK INTO THE COMMUNITY.
BEFORE I TALK ON K4, I WOULD LIKE TO GIVE THE OPPORTUNITY -- I THINK WE HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE FROM THE LONE STAR CATTLE MEN AS WELL AS MR. POWERS AND FROM THE HAYS COUNTY LIVESTOCK EXPOSITION BOARD, MR. DODD. IF EITHER ONE OF Y'ALL WOULD LIKE TO STEP UP TO THE MIC AND GIVE A STATEMENT OR SHARE ANYTHING YOU WOULD LIKE TO, WE'D LOVE TO HEAR FROM YOU.
YOU CAN WALK UP IF YOU WANT. >> SURE.
THAT'S FINE. TREY, IF YOU WILL STATE YOUR NAME AND TITLE FOR THE VIEWING PUBLIC.
MY NAME IS TREY POWERS. I AM THE ORIGINAL FOUNDER, PAST PRESIDENT AND CURRENT BOARD MEMBER OF THE LOAN STAR CATTLE
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MEN FOUNDATION. WE WERE FOUNDED IN 2001 WITH ONE SPECIFIC MISSION AND THAT'S TO SUPPORT THE 4H AND FSA YOUTH.A COUPLE OF NOTES FROM WHAT YOU HEARD BEFORE AND I THINK WALT TOUCHED ON IT A LITTLE BIT, THE COMMENT ABOUT FREDERICKSBURG HAPPENS TO BE WHERE OUR TREASURER LIVES AND THEREFORE MAKES THE MOST SENSE FOR HER TO BANK THERE.
SECOND ON THE GALA, QUITE FRANKLY, THAT'S SIMPLY OUR LARGEST MEANS OF RAISING FUNDS. WE COULDN'T HAVE THAT GALA AT ALL. WE WERE DOWN THERE ON THAT YEAR FOR $197,000 WHICH WOULD HAVE GONE 100% TO THE YOUTH.
ON FARM POLICY, WE WILL GET INTO FARM POLICY ALL DAY AND IT HAS ZERO TO DO WITH THE ORGANIZATIONS AND ZERO TO DO WITH THE BEN GNAW FACTORS AND THE BENEFICIARIES OF WHAT WE DO.
JUST APPRECIATE Y'ALL'S CONSIDERATION.
I DO WANT TO POINT OUT ALSO THAT WHILE I'M MYSELF AND ABOUT FOUR OTHER BOARD MEMBERS ATTEND THE AUCTION, WE PURCHASE THE ANIMALS. IT IS JUST A STRAIGHT DONATION TO THE KIDS TO SUPPORT THEM FOR NEXT YEAR'S PROJECT AND ULTIMATD THEIR COLLEGE FUNDS AND CHASE THEIR FURTHER DREAMS AS THEY GROW UP. WE SPEND MONEY ON EVERY 4H AND FFH CHAPTER IN THE COUNTRY. IT IS NOT ANY ONE AREA OF THE COUNTY. FURTHER HAS COMMITTED AND THERE IS NO DOUBT THAT ANY HELP THAT WE WOULD GET FROM THIS -- FROM THE COUNTY WOULD BE SPENT DIRECTLY AND ONLY AND SOLELY ON
THE USE OF HAYS COUNTY. >> THAT'S BEAUTIFUL.
AND YOU GAVE ME ONE QUESTION WITH YOUR COMMENTS.
I'M A FAN AND SUPPORTER OF THE PHILOSOPHY SO THANK YOU FOR THAT, NUMBER ONE. NUMBER TWO, SINCE THIS IS THE COUNTY WE CAN SEE THE WHOLE COUNTY FOOTPRINT.
AND SO WHETHER IT BE -- WOULD IT BE A DELIBERATE EFFORT TO DISPERSE THE FUNDS EQUALLY THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY?
>> WELL, WE HAVE ALWAYS -- WE'VE ALWAYS DONE THAT.
I WILL TELL YOU YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT EACH 4H AND FFH CHAPTER.
YOU TAKE THE NUMBER OF KIDS FROM SAN MARCOS THAT ARE SHOWING THEIR ANIMALS AND THE PERCENTAGE THERE SAY COMPARED TO WIMBERLEY IT IS VERY SMALL. BUT AS YOU LOOK AT A GENERAL DISPERSION OF THE FUNDS, THEY ARE DISPERSED --
>> PROPORTIONATELY. >> ABSOLUTELY.
>> THERE MAY BE AN OPPORTUNITY HERE WITH THESE FUNDS IF I AM NOT GOING TO GET ON YOUR BOARD AND TELL YOU GUYS WHAT TO DO, BUT I SUGGEST AND ENCOURAGE THAT IT COULD BE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SEE FUTURE GROWTH AND DEVELOPMENT IN THESE SPACES THAT HAVE LOW PARTICIPATION. JUST AN OPTION AND SUGGESTION.
>> WE WOULD LOVE TO DO THAT. WE ARE LIMITED IN SOMEWAYS ON HOW WE CAN SPEND OUR FUNDS. WE CAN ONLY FUNNEL OUR FUNDS DIRECTLY TO ANOTHER 501C3 ORGANIZATION.
WHICH IS HOW WE WERE ABLE TO DO THAT.
WE DO THAT ACTUALLY THROUGH THE LIVESTOCK BOARD.
WE PURCHASE EACH ONE OF THESE PROJECTS AND ULTIMATELY WRITING ONE BIG CHECK TO THE LIVESTOCK BOARD AND THEY ARE PER OUR EXPENDITURES TO THE INDIVIDUAL KIDS.
THEY DISPERSE THOSE. >> COMMISSIONERS, QUESTIONS AND
COMMENTS? >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
>> THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.
I JUST CAN'T THANK Y'ALL ENOUGH FOR THE WAY Y'ALL ARE CHOOSING
TO SPEND THESE FEDERAL FUNDS. >> THANK YOU.
AND FOR THE VIEWING PUBLIC AND YOURSELVES TO KNOW AT THIS MOMENT IN TIME AS COMMISSIONER AOEUPBG TKPWELS BE SAID -- COMMISSIONER INGALSBE SAID THIS IS PRESENTATIONS AND THERE WILL BE ANOTHER AGENDA ITEM BROUGHT FORTH.
WE ARE A GOVERNMENT AND USE METHODICALLY FOR THAT KIND OF A THING. IT IS PRESENTATIONS TODAY, AND THEN FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS TO VOTE ON THE DISPERSE SAL.
>> THAT'S PERFECT. AND I WILL BE HERE FOR THAT ONE
>> TREY IS HARD TO FOLLOW. HE IS GOOD WITH WORDS.
I AM JEFF DODD AND HERE REPRESENTING THE HAYS COUNTY LIVESTOCK COMMISSION. I WANT TO SAY I AM THANKFUL FOR THE COMMISSION AND THANKFUL FOR YOU JUDGE, TO CONSIDER THE
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DONATION FOR OUR ORGANIZATION. FOR THOSE THAT ARE NOT FAMILIAR WITH HCLE, WE WERE STARTED 70 YEARS AGO AND SUPPORT THE FFA.WE DO IT VERY -- VARIOUS WAYS THROUGHOUT THE YEAR.
WE HOLD A LIVESTOCK SHOW THE LAST WEEK OF JANUARY WHERE NOT JUST THE LIVESTOCK SHOW IT IS YOUTH FAIR AND IT IS A HORSE SHOW AS WELL. SO WE ARE TRYING TO DISTRIBUTE TO ALL OF THE YOUTH THAT ARE FURTHERING THEIR AGRICULTURAL EDUCATION WITHIN OUR COUNTY. YOU KNOW, OUR COUNTY HAS BEEN HERE A LONGTIME AND IT IS FOUNDED IN THE AGRICULTURAL YOUTH AND THE AGRICULTURAL EFFORTS.
AND AS WE CONTINUE TO GROW AND OUR CITIES BECOME LARGER, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT IS A FIGHT THAT WE WILL CONTINUE TO FIGHT TO KEEP THE YOUTH VESTED IN UNDERSTANDING THE BENEFITS OF AGRICULTURAL TO OUR COMMUNITY HAD AND -- TO OUR COMMUNITIES AND TO OUR WORLD. THIS YEAR ALONE WE HAD ALMOST 500 DIFFERENT PARTICIPANTS FROM ALL ACROSS HAYS COUNTY AT OUR SHOW. ALMOST 1700 ENTRIES TOTAL.
AND THOSE ARE ENTRIES AND PROJECTS ANYTHING FROM AN ACTUAL LIVESTOCK PROJECT, A SHEEP, A GOAT, A LAMB, ET CETERA.
ALSO TO A HORSE SHOW PARTICIPANT.
AND ALSO TO A YOUTH FAIR. WE HAVE A VERY EXTRAVAGANT YOUTH FAIR WHERE OUR YOUTH ARE LEARNING NEW LIFE SKILLS WHETHER IT IS PHOTOGRAPHY, HORTICULTURE, BAKING, SEWING.
WE HAVE A WIDE RANGE OF PROJECT THAT'S OUR YOUTH PARTICIPATE IN OUR SHOW. IT WILL BENEFIT US IN A TON OF WAYS. WE HAVE GONE IN WITH DRIPPING SPRINGS PARK AS COMMISSIONER SMITH MENTIONED AND WE HAVE A LONG TERM TO DEAL WITH DRIPPINGS SPRINGS PARK THAT ALLOWS US FOREVER TO HAVE OUR YOUTH FAIR THERE AT NO COST TO THE BOARD SO GRANTS ALLOW US TO FURTHER OUR PARTNERSHIP WITH DRIPPING SPRINGS PARK THROUGH ENHANCEMENTS OF THE FACILITY.
THE ENHANCEMENTS NOT ONLY BENEFIT OUR LIVESTOCK SHOW AND THE YOUTH THAT SHOW IN OUR LIVESTOCK SHOW, BUT THOSE FACILITIES WE UH THEIR USE FOR OTHER BENEFITS AS WELL WHETHER IT IS MEETINGS AND WHETHER IT BE OTHER SHOW THAT'S ARE BENEFITING AND GIVING BACK TO HA*EUSZ KOUP. OUR ENHANCEMENTS ARE USED THESE FUNDS FOR ARE GOING TO GIVE US A BETTER FACILITY TO SUPPORT OUR YOUTH FOR. ADDITIONALLY THEY PROVIDE SCHOLARSHIPS FOR FFA AND 4H MEMBERS AND IT IS OPEN TO ALL MEMBERS IN THE COUNTY. THOSE SCHOLARSHIPS ARE BASED ON A VERY LONG PROCESS. THERE IS AN APPLICATION PROCESS AND AN INTERVIEW PROCESS IN THOSE SCHOLARSHIPS AND THEY ARE FUNDING THE FURTHERING EDUCATION OF OUR YOUTH IN HAYS COUNTY.
WE ARE TRULY, TRULY THANKFUL FOR THE SUPPORT.
THIS IS SOMETHING WE WEREN'T EXPECTING.
WE BASICALLY GO YEAR TO YEAR ON SMALL BUDGETS AND TRYING TO DO WHAT WE CAN FOR THE YOUTH OF HAYS COUNTY.
THIS WILL DEFINITELY ALLOW US TO DO A LOT OF THINGS WE COULDN'T IMAGINE TO DO. I AM DEFINITELY AVAILABLE IF THERE ARE QUESTIONS. APPRECIATE EVERYBODY'S TIME.
>> I DON'T KNOW. YOU DID A PRETTY GOOD JOB ALL BY YOURSELF. YOU COULD HAVE BEEN FIRST.
COMMISSIONERS QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS?
THE LAST ONE I HAVE IS ON K4. AND THIS IS THE -- IF YOU REMEMBER EARLIER THIS YEAR, EACH OF THE COMMISSIONERS -- ACTUALLY LATE LAST YEAR, EACH OF THE COMMISSIONERS STEPPED FORWARD WITH $200,000 -- ACTUALLY I THINK I -- I THINK IT WAS AN ALLOCATION OF PRECINCT 4 AND I DID 200,000 SPECIFICALLY FOR DRIPPING SPRINGS ISD AND 100,000 FOR HAYES CONSOLIDATED ISD PARTNERING WITH OUR FORMER COLLEAGUE TO PROVIDE THE COMPLETE 200,000 THERE. BUT I HAD IDENTIFIED A NEED AND SPOKEN WITH EACH OF THE INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICTS EARLY ON DURING THE PANDEMIC. IF YOU REMEMBER WE ACTUALLY LOOKED AT USING CARES FUNDS FOR MENTAL HEALTH SERVICES.
UNFORTUNATELY WE COULDN'T DO ONE SPECIFIC TO MENTAL HEALTH SERVICES WE RE-LOOKED AT THAT AND I SAT DOWN AND WE REALLY LOOKED AT WHAT THE INDIVIDUAL NEEDS WERE AND WE SPOKE ABOUT WHAT THE SPECIFIC NEEDS WERE. WE FOUND THAT WHILE BEHAVIORAL
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HEALTH IS ABSOLUTELY A TOP PRIORITY, GIVING THOSE ISD'S THE FLEXIBILITY TO USE THE FUNDS IS KEY.I SAY THAT SPECIFICALLY BECAUSE IF WE LOOK AT SOME OF THE ISSUES THAT WE HAVE HAD IN OUR ISD'S OR JUST COUNTY WIDE SPECIFIC TO FENTANYL AND THEN OTHER ILLICIT DRUGS, WHAT WE HAVE FOUND IS WE HAVE STUDENTS WHO ARE COMING FORWARD SAYING THEY ARE SELF-IDENTIFYING AND THEIR FAMILIES ARE SELF-IDENTIFYING SAY -- SAYING WE HAVE A PROBLEM AND WE NEED HELP.
THE ANSWER CAN'T BE KEY CAN GET YOU INTO SUBSTANCE ABUSE HELP IN THREE MONTHS. THAT WILL NEVER SOLVE THE PROBLEM. I DON'T KNOW IF WE WILL EVER SOLVE THE PROBLEM, BUT ADDRESSING THOSE INDIVIDUAL FAMILIES WITH THE -- IDENTIFIEDING THE INDIVIDUAL NEEDS THOSE FAMILIES HAVE AND HOW IT CAN BE ADDRESSED IS HOPEFULLY THE GIST AND THE PUSH BEHIND THAT PORTION OF FLEXIBILITY IN THIS FUNDING. IF YOU WILL REMEMBER WE DID A POLL OF THE ISD'S BACK, DRIPPING SPRINGS WAS THE ONLY SCHOOL WITH MENTAL HEALTH IN THE SCHOOL SYSTEM.
I AM HAPPY TO SAY EACH OF OUR ISD'S HAVE THAT NOW.
EVERY ONE OF THE FOUR PUBLIC ISD'S AND THE COUNTY.
I SINCERELY APPRECIATE THE SUPPORT OF EACH OF MY COLLEAGUES ON THE COURT AND IN ENSURING THAT WE HAVE THE FUNDING TO PROVIDE FOR EVERY ONE OF THESE ISD'S.
ALL FOUR. I KNOW WE HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE FROM ONE OF THE ISD'S. FROM HAYES CONSOLIDATED AND I
THINK JERRY IS HERE. >> STATE YOUR NAME AND TITLE.
>> I AM WITH HAYES ICSD. I WANT TO ECHO WHAT COMMISSIONER SMITH SAID. I AM TRULY GRATEFUL FOR WHAT THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT HAS DONE FOR THE YOUTH IN OUR COMMUNITY AND SPECIFICALLY HAYES ICSD. P-S IMPORTANT TO HAVE THAT PIECE THAT PIECE WITH MENTAL HEALTH. SO MANY KIDS ARE SUFFERING AFTER COVID. WE THINK WE HAVE MANY AT SCHOOLS WHO CAN DO THAT OUT REACH. BUT OFTEN TIMES OUR COUNSELORS ARE SO OVERWHELMED BY DEALING WITH DAY-TO-DAY SCHOOL ACTIVITIES AND SCHEDULING AND VARIOUS THINGS THAT OCCUR.
AS YOU KNOW WE WERE HIT CATASTROPHICALLY WITH FENTANYL POISONING. WE HAVE HAD GREAT ADVOCACY FROM THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT AND THE LOCAL LAW ENFORCEMENT PARTNERS.
WHAT WE HAVE FOUND IS THESE KIDS ARE SUFFERING.
THEY ARE UNABLE TO GET THEM INTO FACILITIES OR TREATMENT FACILITIES. THE WAIT IS LONG.
WE ARE WORKING ON A PARTNERSHIP TO BRING THE RESOURCES IN OUR DISTRICT. I AM HAPPY TO SAY THAT THIS FUNDING WILL TREMENDOUSLY HELP US IN THAT REGARD.
WE ARE TRULY HUMBLED AND GRATEFUL FOR EVERYTHING THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT IS DOING IN THAT REGARD AND LOOKING FORWARD TO THE FUTURE OF OUR COUNTRY AND OUR COMMUNITY WHICH IS OUR YOUTH. I REALLY DO APPRECIATE IT.
THANK YOU. >> MAN, YOU HIT THAT OUT OF THE
>> THANK YOU, JUDGE. AND WITH THAT I WOULD ACTUALLY -- WELL, MOST OF THESE WERE PRESENTATIONS AND I WOULD
MOVE FOR ADOPTION OF K4 AND K5. >> IF I MAY ON K5, AND I AM EXTREMELY EXCITED AND HAPPY TO CO-SPONSOR THIS AGENDA ITEM WITH COMMISSIONER COHEN. WE KNOW THAT IT IS A SERVICE THAT IS TRULY NEEDED TO GET OUT INTO OUR COMMUNITIES THAT OTHERWISE MAY NOT BE ABLE TO COME IN TO RECEIVE IMMUNIZATIONS AND OTHER TYPES OF SERVICES. AND SO IT IS WONDERFUL THAT WE ARE ABLE TO PROVIDE THE SERVICE OF A IMMUNIZATION OR A VACCINE VAN TO GO INTO OUR COMMUNITIES TO PROVIDE THOSE SERVICES TO OUR
CHILDREN. >> I AGREE THAT PUBLIC SERVICE IS KWAEUR -- SQUARELY ONE OF OUR TOP PRIORITIES.
NOT ONLY IS THE COUNTY BY STATUTE, BUT BY HEART.
ALL OF THE COMMISSIONERS AND I HERE WILL TRULY STAND BEHIND ALL PUBLIC HEALTH EFFORTS. THIS IS A NO-BRAINER FOR US.
I'M GRATEFUL IT WAS BROUGHT FORTH.
THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP AND YOUR CONTRIBUTIONS. IF THERE ARE NO OTHER COMMENTS
WE WILL CALL THE ROLE. >> COMMISSIONER INGALSBE.
>> YES. >> COMMISSIONER SMITH.
>> YES. >> COMMISSIONER SHELL.
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>> YES. >> COMMISSIONER COHEN.
[F1. Introduction of the new 4-H & Youth Program Coordinator, Sierra Murray, to the Hays County Commissioners Court. SHELL/BLANKENSHIP]
>> F1, INTRODUCTION OF THE NEW 4H AND YOUTH PROGRAM COORDINATOR SIERRA MURRAY TO THE HAYS COUNTY COMMISSIONER'S COURT.
>> HELLO, JUDGE AND COMMISSIONERS.
THANK YOU FOR HAVING US. FOR COMMISSIONER COHEN, I HAVEN'T MET HER YET. MY NAME IS KATE BLANKENSHIP AND I AM WITH THE AGRI LIFE OFFICE IN HAYS COUNTY.
I AM THE COMMUNITY HEALTH AGENT SO I DO A LOT OF HEALTH EDUCATION IN THE COMMUNITY FOR FAMILIES, YOUTH, THINGS LIKE THAT. OUR AG AGENT COULD NOT BE HERE TODAY, BUT WE ARE SUPER EXCITED AND GRATEFUL TO HAVE OUR NEW 4-H AND YOUTH PROGRAM COORDINATOR. HER NAME IS SIERRA MURRAY AND WE ARE JUST SUPER EXCITED TO HAVE HER HELP WITH ALL OF THE FUTURE OF THE YOUTH OF HAYS COUNTY. SO I WILL LET HER TALK.
>> HELLO. I AM SIERRA MURRAY, THE 4-H AND YOUTH PROGRAM COORDINATOR IN HAYS COUNTY.
THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO INTRODUCE MYSELF AND GET TO SEE YOU. I HAVE BEEN IN THE OFFICE TWO MONTHS NOW, AND IT'S BEEN GREAT GETTING TO REACH OUT TO THE FAMILIES. I WAS A 4-H-ER MYSELF.
GETTING TO SEE THE KIDS INVOLVED AND BE INTERESTED HAS BEEN GREAT. I HAVE MADE CONTACTS WITH DIFFERENT SCHOOLS AND DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONS TO PROMOTE OUR -- TO PROMOTE OUR VISION OF JUST LIKE YOUTH DEVELOPMENT.
>> YOU'RE WELCOME. THANK YOU FOR CHOOSING HAYS
COUNTY. >> I WOULD LIKE TO SAY TO JUDGE, TO YOUR POINT FROM EARLIER, WHEN WE LOOK AT THE VARIOUS AREAS OF THE COUNTY, I CAN'T BE MORE EXCITED ABOUT THE ADDITION OF A 4-H AGENT FOR THAT EXPANSION THAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT.
WHERE I GREW UP, I DID LIVESTOCK PROJECTS UNTIL I WAS A JUNIOR IN HIGH SCHOOL. I WAS A DISTRICT 4-H OFFICER AND WORKED AT THE 4-H CENTER IN COLLEGE AND WAS A OFFICER IN COLLEGIATE 4-H AT TEXAS A&M. WHAT WE DID AS WE PROGRESSED AND I TRY TO PROMOTE THOSE PROGRAMS WAS THAT WE FOUND THAT IN SOME OF THOSE COMMUNITIES, IT'S NOT VIABLE TO HAVE A LIVESTOCK PROJECT. IT IS NOT VIABLE TO HAVE A SHOW STEER. NOT IF YOU LIVE IN DOWNTOWN SAN MARCOS, RIGHT? THE GREAT THING ABOUT THE 4-H PROGRAM IS THAT THEY HAVE A WIDE AND BROAD VARIETY OF PROGRAMS WITHIN THE PROGRAM THAT THERE'S REALLY OPPORTUNITIES FOR EVERY YOUTH.
AND THE LARGEST SECTOR -- IT MAY NOT STILL BE THIS WAY, BUT I BELIEVE THE LARGEST SECTOR, THE DATA USE TO SAY IN THE LAST 10 YEARS FOR EXPANSION IN THE 4-H AREAS WERE IN THE URBAN AREAS WHERE YOU HAD THE PROGRAMS SUCH AS LEADERSHIP, SUCH AS PUBLIC SPEAKING, SUCH AS HOME AND LIFE SKILLS.
AN EXAMPLE, I COMPETED IN THE STATE -- YOU KNOW, THE COUNTY, DISTRICT AND STATE FOOD SHOW. THOSE OPPORTUNITIES ARE OUT THERE FOR THOSE YOUTH THAT YOU WOULDN'T NECESSARILY CONSIDER TRADITIONAL 4-H OR FFA KIDS IN THOSE MORE SUBURBAN AND URBAN EYESED AREA LIKE HERE IN HAYS COUNTY.
I AM REALLY EXCITED TO HAVE SOMEBODY RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT.
>> THANK YOU. >> I COULDN'T AGREE MORE.
THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER, FOR ARTICULATING THAT SO WELL.
AND WE BENEFIT GREATLY FROM WHAT YOU ARE DOING AND WHAT YOU WILL BE DOING. PLEASE, FOR EXAMPLE, REACH OUT TO MY OFFICE SO THAT WE COULD FIND WAYS TO PROPEL AND TO SUPPORT AND TO PROMOTE YOUR WORK BECAUSE WE KARPBLT -- CAN'T LOSE SIGHT OF THAT, ESPECIALLY IN OUR CORRIDOR, THE HIGHEST POPULATION IN THE COUNTY. WE NEED TO WORK TOGETHER TO FIND CREATIVE WAYS TO TELL YOUR STORY AND SHARE WITH THE COMMUNITY THOSE THINGS AVAILABLE TO THEM. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
[F8. Presentation by Halff regarding an update on the 2020 Parks Bond Program. BECERRA]
>> WILL YOU PLEASE OPEN -- DO WE WANT -- YES, PLEASE, NUMBER 8.
>> PRESENTATION BY HALFF REGARDING AN UPDATE ON THE 2020
PARKS BONDS PROGRAM. >> SO MOVED.
>> GOOD MORNING JUDGE AND COMMISSIONERS --
>> I'M SORRY. I HAVE ONE SPEAKER.
IF YOU DON'T MIND YIELDING FOR ONE SECOND.
>> MR. DAN LANE. THREE MINUTES.
>> THANK YOU, JUDGE BACERRA. I LOOKED BACK ON THIS AND APPARENTLY THIS IS GOING TO BE A BOND PROGRAM UPDATE JANUARY 2023
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HAYS COUNTY AND THE CITY OF WOOD CREEK ENTERED INTO A FUNDING AGREEMENT TO IMPROVE AND EXPAND OUTDOOR REC LOCATION IN THE CITY. HAYS COUNTY COMMISSIONED 200,000 TO THE CITY OF WOOD CREEK AND COMMITTED 67,500 FUNDS FOR NEAR PARK AND MAKE IMPROVES -- IMPROVEMENTS AT THE EXISTING PARK. HAYS COUNTY RESIDENTS VOTED FOR PARKS AND OPEN SPACE BOND AND PROPOSITION A THAT CALLED FOR THE ISSUANCE OF 75 MILLION GENERAL BONDS TO FUND PARTS AND OPEN SPACES CONSERVATION LANDS AND OTHER RECREATION OPPORTUNITIES OVER THE NEXT SEVERAL YEARS.WE ALL KNOW THAT, OR NOW WE KNOW IT.
AND WE'VE GOT ROUND ONE PROJECTS.
THOSE HAVE BEEN DELINEATED. AND NOW WE HAVE ROUND TWO PROJECTS. I DON'T KNOW.
I HAVE NEVER SEEN THESE ON THE BALLOT.
WE HAVE CYPRESS CREEK, DRY CYPRESS CREEK TRAIL, REGIONAL PARKS, SAN MARCOS EASTSIDE PARK AND GARRISON PARK AND GARRISON PARK PLANNED EXPANSION, SOFTBALL COMPLEX RENOVATIONS.
INDIGENOUS CULTURE CENTER, SPORTSPLEX PARK AND TRAIL IMPROVEMENTS. THE LAND ACQUISITION AND THE SPORTSPLEX FACILITY MODERNIZATION AND REHABILITATION AND OLD GLORY RANCH AND TRAIL IMPROVEMENTS, ROY CREEK CANYON RESERVE, SMCISD WISHING TRAILS, SPRING LAKE, LAKESIDE TRAIL RESTORATION. I BELIEVE I MIGHT HAVE MISS PRONOUNCED THAT. WIMBERLEY YOUTH SPORTS ASSOCIATION EXPANSION AND SMCISD PUBLIC PARK.
I DON'T KNOW WHY THOSE ARE EVEN ON THERE.
WE HAVEN'T VOTED ON THOSE. THIS IS PRE SUM SHOE -- VERY PRE SUM SHOE -- PRE SUM -P SHOE US WITH TO TELL US THEY ARE GOING TO DO THAT TOO. NOBODY TOLD US WE WOULD HAVE TO HIRE ASSOCIATES TO ADMINISTER THESE PARKS.
THAT'S JUST WRONG. IT IS NOT FULL DISCLOSURE.
THIS SHOULD BE PULL ON THE BALLOT.
IF WE HAVE TO HIRE PEOPLE TO LOOK AFTER THESE PARKS, EXTRA PEOPLE, THAT IS JUST EXTRA EXPENSE TO THE TAXPAYER.
WE ALL KNOW THESE PARKS PASS BECAUSE OF TEXAS STATE.
THEY WERE THE ONE THAT'S VOTED THIS IN BECAUSE THEY ARE ONLY HERE FOR FOUR YEARS AT MOST, AND THEN THEY STICK US WITH PAYING THE NEXT 20 OR 30 YEARS FOR THEIR VOTES.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> THANK YOU, SIR.
THANK YOU, SIR. REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR ASSESSMENT. ANY COMMISSIONER WANT TO SAY ANYTHING OR DO WE GO STRAIGHT TO THE PRESENTATIONS?
>> I CAN OFFER A LITTLE COMMENTS.
I THINK WE HAD FOLKS FROM THE POST ACT HERE TO TALK ABOUT IT.
JUST IN GENERAL SOME OF THE COMMENTS THAT MR. LYONS MADE.
>> IT WAS MR. LYONS. >> I THOUGHT I SAID LYONS I APOLOGIZE. SOME OF THE COMMENTS MR. LYONS MADE WERE THAT RELATIVE TO THE USE AT TEXAS STATE AS A PERCENTAGE OF THE OVERALL VOTERS ON THAT SPECIFIC ELECTION, WHILE THAT MAY BE THE CASE IN SOME ELECTIONS I WOULDN'T DISAGREE WITH YOU, ON THAT SPECIFIC ELECTION IT PASSED AND YOU CAN TAKE EVERY STUDENT OUT OF TEXAS STATE AND IT WOULD PASS BY A FAIRLY LARGE PERCENTAGE. WHILE I WOULD AGREE WITH YOU IN MOST CASES I THINK THIS ONE IS PROBABLY -- I THINK YOU MAY BE
INCORRECT IN THIS ONE, SIR. >> I WOULD LIKE TO ADD ANY TIME ANY GROUP IS ISOLATED, HOWEVER IT MAY BE AND POINTED OUT, I'M REMINDED OF THE CLICHE, THE BROADER THE STATEMENT, THE NARROWER THE MIND. I AM NOT SAYING YOUR MIND IS NARROW, SIR. IT IS A CLICHE.
THERE ARE COMMISSIONERS THAT ARE FORMER BOBCATS AND JUDGE THAT'S ARE FORMER BOBCATS AND NOTHING -- AS MY SEAT AS A CURRENT COUNTY JUDGE THERE IS NOTHING I WILL DO TO SUPPORT SINGLING OUT GROUPS IN A NEGATIVE WAY, WHATEVER IT MAY BE ESPECIALLY AS A BOBCAT -- A PROUD BOBCAT FAMILY MOREOVER.
A LOT OF THESE BOBCATS IF WE DO AS OUR COMMUNITY WILL BE A
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CONTRIBUTION IT RAISES THE THE -- THE BASE PAY OF THE REGION AND I WILL ENCOURAGE AND APPLAUD BOBCAT SUPPORT AND ENGAGEMENT IN THE COMMUNITY HOWEVER IT MAY LOOK WHETHER IAGREE WITH IT OR NOT. >> GOOD MORNING JUDGE AND COMMISSIONERS. IF I CAN OFFER A LITTLE CLARITY THAT Y'ALL MAY NOT BE ABLE TO -- THE BOND LANGUAGE WAS QUITE BROAD AND IT WAS 75 MILLION OR UP TO 75 MILLION FOR PARKS AND IMPROVEMENTS PROJECTS LIKE. THERE WAS A SECOND ROUND OF REQUESTS AND WE WENT THROUGH PROCESS AND THERE WERE 43 TOTAL PROJECTS SUBMITTED. THERE ARE 39 RECOMMENDED.
IS MY PRESENTATION IN THE SLIDE DECK? IF NOT THAT'S OKAY. IT'S IN THE BACK UP.
THERE ARE 39 RECOMMENDED -- >> IT WAS JUST EMAILED.
DO YOU WANT ME TO PULL IT UP. >> IF YOU DON'T MIND CONTINUING.
>> A LITTLE PROJECT STATUS. WE HAVE THE PROJECTS BROKEN DOWN TO THREE CAT -- CATEGORIES. IT WAS FUNDED, RECOMMENDED WITH PROGRESS. ALL OF THESE PROJECT THAT'S ARE ON THESE THREE CATEGORIES ARE ONES RECOMMENDED.
P WHEN WE SAY IT IS FUNDED IT IS EITHER FULLY FUNDED OR FULLY COMMITTED THROUGH A FUNDING AGREEMENT OR ONE Y'ALL WILL BE LOOKING AT POSSIBLY TODAY. SO THE FUNDED LIST ARE PROJECTS THAT ARE BASICALLY FUNDINGS COMMITTED.
THOSE ARE THINGS LIKE AN EASTSIDE PARK ACQUISITION FOR SAN MARCOS. THEY CLOSED ON THE PROPERTY.
PATRIOT HALL, WE KNOW IT IS UNDER CONSTRUCTION.
AND THEN GREG CLARK PARK IMPROVEMENTS.
THE CITY OF KYLE HAS MADE A LOT OF PROGRESS ON THAT THROUGH CONSTRUCTION. THOSE AGAIN ARE FUNDED.
THAT'S SOMETHING THE COUNTY IS WORKING TOWARD, WHICH IS FUNDING AGREEMENTS OR MAKING SOME OR -- SOME OTHER PROGRESS WITH THEIR PROJECT. THAT'S THE NATURE PRESERVE WITH THE CITY OF DRIPPING SPRINGS. THEY HAVE RFQ OUT ON THE STREET RIGHT NOW AND WE HAVE THE INDIGENOUS CULTURE CENTER THAT IS WORKING WITH TEXAS STATE. AND ALSO WIMBERLEY YOUTH SPORTS ASSOCIATION IS WORKIN WITH THE ISD AND CONSULTANTS TO GET THEIR PROJECT MOVING FORWARD. AND THEN THE LAST CATEGORY IS SIMPLY RECOMMENDED BY COSAK AND THERE IS NOTHING GOING ON WITH THOSE. SO BETWEEN FUNDED AND RECOMMENDED WITH PROGRESS, THOSE TWO CATEGORIES ARE 75% OF THE TOTAL PROJECTS. THE BREAK DOWN ON THE FUNDING, TO DATE THE ONES CONSIDERED FUNDED, FIRST IT WAS JUST RECOMMENDED, BUT TOTAL FUNDED IS 54% OF THE TOTAL DOLLARS.
THOSE ARE COMMITTED ALREADY FOR PROJECTS.
WE HAVE A BREAK DOWN BY PRE SINK AND ALMOST ALL OF THE PRECINCTS, THERE IS A MAJORITY OF THOSE PROJECTS THAT ARE CURRENTLY FUNDED. A LOT OF THE INFORMATION ON THE CURRENT PROGRESS OF PROJECTS IS AVAILABLE ON A WEBSITE THAT WAS
SPECIFICALLY CREATED FOR THIS. >> I WILL JUST WRAP UP THE UPDATE FOR THE BOND PROGRAM TO REMIND AND ENCOURAGE THE COMMUNITY AND OUR COMMISSIONER'S COURT TO VISIT OUR WEBSITE.
IT IS HAYES PARKS BOND.COM. THAT'S BASICALLY WHERE YOU CAN FIND ALL OF THE INFORMATION THAT JAMES JUST WALKED THROUGH.
WE HAVE AN E! NEWS LETTER UP -- ENEWS UPDATED LATER -- LETTER WE SEND OUT. WE HAVE A CONTACT FORM WHERE YOU CAN SIGN UP TO REFER THESE UPDATES.
AND WE HAVE AN EMAIL ADDRESS THAT WE ENCOURAGE ANY OPEN COMMUNICATION FOR ANYONE THAT HAS QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS ABOUT THE BOND BLOOD IN GENERAL OR SPECIFIC PROJECTS IN THE WORKS.
>> THANK YOU, WELCOME. ALTHOUGH THIS WAS VOTER APPROVED AS COMMISSIONER SMITH SPOKE OF EARLIER, THERE ARE THOSE NEW TO OUR COMMUNITY OR TUNING IN FOR THE FIRST TIME THAT ARE DISCOVERING WHAT IS GOING ON FOR THE FIRST TIME.
I WOULD LIKE TO TELL THEM THAT A LOT OF THESE PRONG SKWREBGTS -- PROJECTS, WE HAD A CHANCE TO PICK FROM OUR OWN COMMUNITIES, DIFFERENT PRE SINKS AND -- PRECINCTS AND COUNTY WIDE TO REPRESENT THE POSAC. A LOT OF IT WAS TO ADDRESS
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FLOODING AND TO ADDRESS RECLAIMING OF RAINWATER AND RECHARGING OF OUR AQUIFERS. THE WAY I LIKE TO SAY T TO MAKE HAYS COUNTY THE BEST WAY WE CAN. THE CENTRAL PART OF CENTRAL TEXAS. I BELIEVE WITH SENTINAL -- CENTINNAL PEAK AND THE CANYON AND EVERY ONE OF THE PROJECTS WE HAVE REALLY MOVED THE NEEDLE IN A WAY THAT IS HUGE IN THE REFERENCE OF THE CONSERVATION FOR OVERALL ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION FOR OUR COMMUNITY. AND FOR THAT I AM PROUD AND GRATEFUL IT HAPPENED DURING OUR FIRST TERM, COMMISSIONER.I AM GRATEFUL FOR THAT. I AM NEVER GOING TO STEP BACK AND CONTINUE TO DEFEND THAT PROJECT AND EFFORT AND COMMUNITY-SUPPORTED EP -- ENDEAVOR BECAUSE WE ARE A GREATER COUNTY BECAUSE OF IT. COMMISSIONERS?
>> JUDGE, THANK YOU AND YOU ARE SO RIGHT REGARDING THE CONSERVATION AND PRESERVATION OF MANY OF THE LANDS THAT WE ARE -- IT IS PARCELLS WE ACQUIRED. THERE IS ANOTHER SIDE OF IT AND THERE IS A NEED FOR OTHER TYPES OF PARKS TO PROVIDE THOSE SERVICES FOR THE KIDS THAT MAY NOT HAVE ACCESS TO IT.
WE ARE WORKING ON BOTH SIDES, JUDGE, AND SO I THINK IT IS A WELL-ROUNDED BALANCED PROGRAM AND WE ARE LOOKING FORWARD TO
CONTINUE TO DEVELOP THESE PARKS. >> WE ARE WORKING THROUGH IT.
ABSOLUTELY RIGHT. >> WE MET YESTERDAY AND REVIEWED MY PRE SIKH -- MY PRECINCT'S PARKS AND HAD DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THAT. COMMISSIONER INGALSBE AND I, WE SHARE THE SAME SPACE AND NORTH HAYES OPTIMIST IS IMPORTANT TO ME AS WELL. I AM NOT GIVING UP ON THAT PROJECT BECAUSE THAT IS DEFINITELY AN AREA THAT DOES NEED SUCH A PARK LIKE THAT. I HOPE WE CAN MOVE FORWARD.
>> COMMISSIONERS? >> THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK AND TO COMMISSIONER COHEN'S POINT, THIS IS IMPORTANT ENOUGH TO ME THAT I'M -- I WANTED TO MAKE SURE WHEN COMMISSIONER COHEN WAS COMING ON TO THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT, I THINK THE FIRST MEETING I SET UP WITH YOU WAS WITH HALFF AND POSAC.
IT IS IMPORTANT FOR ALL OF OUR PRECINCTS AND I WANTED TO MAKE SURE YOU HAD THE BACKGROUND AS WELL.
I MEAN, I APPRECIATE THE WORK THAT Y'ALL ARE DOING AND SPECIFICALLY THE PUBLIC OUT REACH TO EDUCATE FOLKS.
I THINK THE BIGGEST STUMBLING BLOCK WE HAVE, COMMISSIONERS AND I THINK Y'ALL RUN INTO THIS IS SOME OF OUR COMMUNITY PARTNERS ENSURING THAT THEY ARE GETTING THE NEEDED DOCUMENTATION AND THE PAPERWORK AND THE NEEDED BACKGROUND INFORMATION FOR US TO MOVE FORWARD ON SOME OF THESE PROJECTS.
I WOULD JUST ENCOURAGE THEM TO WORK WITH OUR FOLKS TO GET THOSE IN AND GET THAT DOCUMENTATION IN WE WANT TO ENSURE THAT WE CAN GET THESE PROJECTS ON THE GROUND AND OPERATIONAL SOONER RATHER THAN LATER. I THINK THE DRIPPING SPRINGS AREA, THEY HAVE THE PROPERTY AND WE COMMITTED I THINK IT IS 3.5 MILLION TO THAT PROJECT. THEY DO HAVE AN RFQ OR AN RFP1 OUT TO COMPLETE THE PROJECT RIGHT NOW.
HOPEFULLY THEY CAN GET THAT DONE IN A QUICK MANNER FOR US TO BE A
PARTNER WITH THEM. >> THERE YOU GO.
THANK YOU, GUYS. THANK YOU FOR CHURNING THROUGH THIS. I KNOW IT'S NOT EASY.
WE HAVE HAD LOTS OF CONVERSATIONS AND WE KNOW IT IS NOT EASY. THANK YOU FOR YOUR PART IN THE PROJECT AND THE PROCESS. OKAY.
>> WE HAVE ONE MORE IN THE PRESENTATIONS.
>> OH YEAH? I AM ALREADY MOVING ON.
WE HAVE A LOT OF PAGES. I'M SO SORRY, MARISOL.
[F9. Presentation of the Certificate of Achievement for Excellence in Financial Reporting to the Hays County Auditor's Office and the Award of Financial Reporting Achievement to the Hays County Auditor Marisol Villarreal-Alonzo from the Government Finance Officers Association (GFOA). BECERRA/VILLARREAL-ALONZO]
OPEN F9. >> F9, PRESENTATION OF THE CERTIFICATE OF ACHIEVEMENT FOR EXCELLENCE IN FINANCIAL REPORTING TO THE HAYS COUNTY AUDITOR'S OFFICE AND THE AWARD OF FINANCIAL REPORTING ACHIEVEMENT TO THE HAYS COUNTY AUDITOR MARISOL VILLARREAL-ALONZO FOR THE GOVERNMENT FINANCE OFFICERS ASSOCIATION.
>> ON FEBRUARY 16TH, I WAS NOTIFIED BY THE GOVERNMENT FINANCE OFFICE OF ASSOCIATION WHICH IS THE GFOA WHO GOVERNS OUR FINANCIAL STATEMENTS FOR LOCAL GOVERNMENTS SUCH AS OURSELVES. WE WERE NOTIFIED THAT WE HAD SUBMITTED OUR FISCAL YEAR 2021 ANNUAL COMPREHENSIVE FINANCIAL REPORT FOR REVIEW AND THEY NOTIFIED ME THAT IT HAD MET THE
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EXCELLENCE AND THEY AWARDED US WITH A CERTIFICATE FOR ACHIEVEMENT FOR EXCELLENCE IN FINANCIAL REPORTING.AT THIS TIME I WOULD LIKE TO CONGRATULATE THE AUDITOR'S OFFICE IN THE COUNTY. WE SPEND ALL YEAR AUDITING THE FINANCIAL TRANSACTIONS THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY SO WE CAN PRESENT FINANCIAL REPORTS AND THE FINANCIAL AND BOARD AND WE WORK ALL YEAR TO ENSURE THAT THE COUNTY DEPARTMENTS ARE MEETING THOSE STANDARDS AND THEY ARE FINALLY PRESENTING THE SATEMENTS OF THE ACCOUNTING PRINCIPALS.
I WROTE -- I WOULD LIKE TO ASK MY STAFF TO COME UP AND BE REC COG -- WE RECOGNIZE THESE INDIVIDUALS WITH THE AUDITING AND ASSISTED ME IN PREPARING THE REPORT.
AND WE HAVE -- COME ON IN. >> COME UP FOR A PICTURE.
>> ALL THE WAY UP. >> WE HAVE OUR GENERAL LEDGER FINANCIAL ANALYST MRS. SMITH. AND WE HAVE -- [INAUDIBLE] AND MARISSA CAREY. WE HAVE KIMBERLY, OUR ACCOUNTS PAYABLE MANAGER AND STEPHANIE HUNT, OUR ASSISTANT AND I WOULD
LIKE TO INVITE VICKY DORSET. >> [APPLAUSE].
>> COME ON UP. >> ALL OF THIS MAGNIFICENCE IN
ONE PLACE. >> CONGRATULATIONS, MARISOL.
[K2. Discussion and possible action to approve vendors for the May 6th Cinco de Mayo Menudo Throwdown 2023 event by Hill Country Cook-Off Association in accordance with the Hays County Property Use Policy. BECERRA]
>> DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO APPROVE BENDERS TO THE MAY 6TH CINCO DE MAYO MENUDO THROW DOWN EVENT BY HILL COUNTRY COOK OFF ASSOCIATION IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE HAYS COUNTY
PROPERTY USE POLICY. >> [INAUDIBLE].
>> HOW ABOUT THAT? IT IS HERE BECAUSE MY OFFICE MANAGES THE GROUND IN BOOKINGS AND IT IS POLICY FOR US TO BRING TO COURT ANY TIME VENDORS WILL BE ON THE GROUNDS AND SO THAT'S WHY IT IS HERE. THEY WERE HERE LAST YEAR AND I AM SO GRATEFUL THAT IT WAS SO WELL SUPPORTED AND SO WELL ATTENDED IN EVERY WAY POSSIBLE. AND I BELIEVE, AND I AM GRATEFUL FOR AND I AM STRETCHING FOR PETE TO COME IN.
LIKE IN THE FILM INDUSTRY, RIGHT? THE SHOW MUST GO ON. I WILL SAY A FEW WORDS TO HELP HIM GET IN HERE. EVERY OPPORTUNITY I HAVE FOR US AND IT IS FOR YOU COURT MEMBERS AS WELL.
ANY TIME WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO BRING THE COMMUNITY TOGETHER IN OUR HISTORIC COURTHUSE AND ON OUR GROUNDS, WE HAVE TO REACH FOR IT. IT IS A PLACE OF UNITY AND IT IS FOR OUR LOCAL GOVERNMENT. WE HAD VIGILS HERE, TWO ON SUNDAY. IT IS EVERY OPPORTUNITY WE HAVE TO COME TOGETHER ON THESE GROUNDS IS SOMETHING I WILL ALWAYS REACH FOR, ESPECIALLY WITH UNIFYING EFFORTS WHETHER IT IS CULTURAL AND RELIGIOUS. WHATEVER IT IS.
IT IS COMING TOGETHER FOR AN UNDERSTANDING AND APPRECIATION OF OTHER PEOPLE'S CULTURES IS ALWAYS A PLUS AND IT HELPS OUR LOCAL ECONOMY. IT HELPS OUR TAX BASE AND BECAUSE OF THE ADDED VIEWS, WE ARE ALSO LOOKING AT ADDITIONAL REPAIRS AND MAINTENANCE. THANK YOU FOR HELPING ON THAT
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FRONT SO MUCH. AND ACTUALLY COMMISSIONER SHELL AS WELL THROUGH THE CONVERSATION.AND I AM RUNNING OUT OF THINGS TO SAY FOR PETE.
I WOULD LIKE THE COMMISSIONERS TO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY ON THIS EVEN THOUGH HE HAS WALKED IN. BROTHER, I AM STRETCHING FOR YOU. I WANT TO GIVE THE OPPORTUNITY FOR THE COMMISSIONERS TO SAY SOMETHING.
IF YOU WILL APPROACH THE PODIUM. >> WELL, I ATTENDED THE EVENT LAST YEAR AND I THOUGHT IT WAS WONDERFUL.
IT WAS A WAY FOR OUR OWN HISPANIC YOUTH TO LEARN MORE ABOUT WHAT CINCO DE MAYO IS. I RECALL MY DAUGHTER ACTUALLY PARTICIPATED IN THE MISS CHIQUITA PANELING -- PAGEANT AND SHE GOT FIRST RUNNER UP. IT WAS GREAT.
IT WAS GREAT TO SEE THE COMMUNITY COME TOGETHER LIKE
THAT. >> PEOPLE OFTEN FORGET THAT FOR WHATEVER IT'S WORTH, WE DON'T NEED DIVISION, AND I WILL NEVER SPEAK OF DIVISION. I AM ALWAYS REACHING FOR UNITY.
SOMETIMES WE DON'T AGREE ON THE ROAD MAP OR TRAJECTORY, I AM ALWAYS REACH FORGET UNITY. AND SOME PEOPLE MAY FORGET OR SLIPS THEIR MIND THIS USED TO BE MEXICO.
AND WHATEVER ORGANIZATION HELPS REPRESENT THE AWARENESS AND THE SUPPORT AND THE ENCOURAGEMENT OF EDUCATION, MAN, I'M ALL ABOUT.
IT I'M ALL ABOUT IT. >> JUDGE I APPRECIATE RICHARD'S LEADERSHIP. I KNOW HE HAS BEEN DOING THIS FOR A VERY LONGTIME. SO THANK YOU.
YOU PROVIDE ASSISTANCE FOR YOUTH AND MEDICAL ASSISTANCE AND THAT'S EXTREMELY IMPORTANT SO THANK YOU.
I WANT TO SAY LAST TIME WE HAD THIS -- I KNOW, RICHARD, IT WAS A LITTLE RESTRICTIVE, BUT I WAS VERY, VERY IN RICHARD'S SPACE ABOUT MAKING SURE EVERYTHING WAS AS BEST AS IT COULD BE.
AND RICHARD DID A PHENOMENAL JOB.
HE WAS ABOVE AND BEYOND AND HE WAS AMAZING IN RUNNING IT WITH HIS TEAM. IT WAS A SMALL TEAM.
IT IS A LOT OF WORK WHEN A SMALL TEAM DOES AS MUCH AS HE PWREURB -- HE ACCOMPLISHED. I AM HERE TO SING HIS PRAISES AND LOOKING FORWARD TO THE NEXT ONES.
>> I WANT TO THANK THE JUDGE FOR [INAUDIBLE] I ALWAYS THOUGHT WE SHOULD USE THIS SPACE MORE. [INAUDIBLE] IT WAS REALLY COOL TO SEE THAT MANY PEOPLE HERE LAST YEAR.
TPR-PB -- [INAUDIBLE] IT WENT WELL AND THE NEXT DAY WE CLEANED UP. APPRECIATE ALL OF Y'ALL'S WORK
AND EVERYBODY THAT HELPED OUT. >> WONDERFUL AND THANK YOU.
COMMISSION STPHER. >> I HOPE THERE IS A [INAUDIBLE] CATEGORY. THE ONE DOWN FALL IS THAT THE TASTING IS SO LATE IN THE DAY THAT YOU CAN'T HAVE MENUDO FOR
BREAKFAST. >> IF YOU INTRODUCE YOURSELF FOR
THE VIEWING PUBLIC. >> I AM RICHARD AND I AM WITH [INAUDIBLE] AND WE 9 MEMBER THAT'S WE JUST COME TOGETHER AND WE DO THESE EVENTS. MOST OF -- MOST OF THE BENEFITS GO TO MEDICAL AND HELPING KIDS WITH CANCER IS OUR BIG THING THAT WE DO. WE PUT ON SEVERAL EVENTS THROUGHOUT THE YEAR UNDER HCCO, HILL COUNTRY COOKOFF ASSOCIATION. BASICALLY WE -- I'M A BARBECUE COMPETITOR. MY LIFE IS ALL ABOUT BARBECUE.
WE WANTED TO DO SOMETHING A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT AND OUT OF THE BOX OF BARBECUE. I HELPED THEM OUT BACK IN THE DAYS TO HELP THEM WITH THE CINCO DE MAYO AT THE CIVIC CENTER FOR YEARS AND YEARS. THEY STOPPED KIND OF DOING IT AND I SAID, MAN, YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO START THIS BACK UP AGAIN BECAUSE IT IS A TRADITION HERE IN SAN MARCOS AS FAR AS CINCO DE MAYO AND MENUDO. SO LAST YEAR WE CREATED IT AND THEY LET US HAVE IT HERE AND IT WAS PRETTY GOOD.
WE CAN'T SAY THE NUMBERS, BUT I KNOW IT WAS CROWDED, AND IT WAS HOT. IT WAS 105, I BELIEVE.
WE GOT IT DONE AND WE GOT A LOT OF PEOPLE INVOLVED.
WE HAD THE LITTLE MISS CHIQUITA WHICH IS GOOD.
WE HAD A LOT OF VENDORS OUT HERE.
I THINK WE HAD 45MENUDO COOKS LAST YEAR FROM THE STATE.
SO WE ARE GONNA DO IT AGAIN AND WE ARE READY TO GO.
WE HAVE A TENTATIVE FLIER SO FAR IT WAS POSTED ON ONE SITE OF FACEBOOK TO LET THEM KNOW WHAT IS GOING ON.
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WE HAVE SOME OTHER PLANS COMING UP, ENTERTAINMENT PLANS THAT WE ARE WORKING ON WITH THE MARK ACROSS THE STREET THIS YEAR.WE HAVE SOME REALLY, REALLY GOO. WE DO HAVE SOMETHING NEW THIS YEAR. IT IS CALLED MS AND NOT MISS OR MRS. WE WANTED TO GIVE THE ELDERLY -- GET THE ELDERLY INVOLVED, THE LADIES INVOLVED.
SO WE GOT -- IT IS CALLED MS SEN ORA SIN CO DAY -- CINCO DE MAYO. WE WANTED TO GIVE THE DAUGHTERS AND THE GRANDDAUGHTERS A CHANCE TO DRESS THEIR MOMS AND CELEBRATE AND GET DRESSED UP. IT IS ACTUALLY A PAGEANT.
SO THE AGES OF THEM ARE GOING TO BE 68 AND OVER.
WE WILL DO IT IN THE MORNING SO IT WON'T BE SO HOT AND WITH THE KIDS. WE WILL HAVE ARTS AND CRAFTS, AND OF COURSE THE BIG THING OF THE MENUDO COOKOFF COMING UP.
THEY ALSO COMPETED IN BORRACHO BEANS AND CARNE ASADA.
>> YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE DRUNK TO EAT THOSE BEANS.
IT IS JUST THE NAME. >> AND THEN -- ENCHILADAS.
I GUESS THE HASHTAG IS COME EXPERIENCE TEX MEX CULTURE OR TEX MEX TRADITION. WE WANT TO KEEP ON.
WE HAVE SUBMITTED TO ONE OF OUR CONGRESSMEN TO MAKE THIS A STATE MENUDO COOKOFF TO WHERE WE ARE MORE RECOGNIZED THROUGHOUT THE STATE. BELIEVE IT OR NOT WE WANT TO HOPEFULLY TRY TO GET SAN MARCOS, THE CAPITAL OF -- THE MENUDO CAPITAL OF TEXAS. IF YOU ARE FROM AROUND HERE, THEY HAD THAT GOING FOR 40 PLUS YEARS.
SO WE'RE NOT TRYING TO TAKE ANYTHING AWAY FROM THEM.
WE ARE NOT TRYING TO START A NEW TRADITION.
WE WANT TO CONTINUE THE TRADITION.
>> CAN YOU SPEAK AS A FINAL COMMENT ABOUT THE BENEFICIARY OF
LAST TIME'S FUNDRAISING? >> YEAH.
LAST YEAR THE BENEFITS -- AND WE ACTUALLY PRESENTED IT OUTSIDE AT AWARDS -- IT WENT TO A LITTLE GIRL HERE.
SHE WAS -- SHE IS A FOUR-YEAR-OLD THAT NEEDED -- HOW DO YOU SAY IT? SHE WAS LEGALLY BLIND.
IN ORDER FOR HER TO SEE SHE NEEDED THESE SPECIAL GLASSES AND I BELIEVE THEY WERE CALLED E SIGHT FOR GLASSES.
WE HAD CONTACT WITH THEIR GRANDMOTHER.
HER GRANDMOTHER CALLED US UP, CALLED ME UP AND SAID, HEY, WE WOULD LIKE TO DO SOMETHING FOR RILEY SO WE CAN BUY THE GLASSES.
I SAID, WHAT DO YOU WANT TO DO? SHE SAID, WELL, I WOULD LIKE TO DO A CHICKEN PLATE FUNDRAISER. I SAID WHEN DO YOU WANT TO DO IT? SHE SAID, WELL, IN JULY.
WELL, YOU KNOW, JULY AND MAKING CHICKEN IS NOT TOO GOOD.
I SAID HOW MUCH DO YOU WANT TO RAISE? SHE SAID, WELL, WE NEED $6,000. I SAID, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT THIS MENUDO THING COMING UP. WE ARE GOING TO SET OUR GOAL AND WE GOT YOUR BENEFIT. THAT DAY WE GAVE HER A $6,000 AND SHE GOT HER GLASSES. RIGHT NOW SHE HAS HER GLASSES AND THEY ARE PINK AND BIG OLD BULKY THINGS, BUT SHE GOT HER GLASSES AND SHE IS ABLE TO SEE. IT IS STUFF LIKE THAT THIS YEAR, THE COMMUNITY ACTION BREAST CANCER AWARENESS PROGRAM HERE IN HAYES, CALDWELL AND BLANCO WILL BE RECEIVING THE FUNDS FROM
>> I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU. YOUR LAST COMMENT THAT WE HERE AT THE COURT, THAT SPECIFIC PROGRAM, COMMISSIONER COMMISSIONER INNING TKPWELS -- COMMISSIONER INGALSBE AND I SPONSORED AR PJ A FUNDS -- USED ARPA FUNDS TO HAVE THAT.
I WOULD LOVE FOR THEM TO BE A UNIT AT THE EVENT TO SHOW PEOPLE THAT IT IS OUT THERE AND AVAILABLE AND THAT THEY HAVE ACCESS TO IT HERE IN OUR COUNTY. I WOULD LOVE TO -- IF YOU HAVEN'T SPOKEN TO THEM, I WOULD BE HAPPY TO TRY TO GET IN CONTACT WITH THEM AND TALK TO THEM ABOUT THAT.
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>> I'LL LET HER KNOW. >> THAT WOULD BE GREAT.
>> I'M SURE THEY WILL BE OUT HERE.
THAT'S WHAT IS GOING ON THIS YEAR.
WE ARE ANTICIPATING BIGGER THAN LAST YEAR.
MORE COOKS, I KNOW THAT. WE HAVEN'T EVEN THROWN IT OUT THAT MARKETWATCH -- THAT MUCH AND WE ARE GETTING A LOT OF RESPONSE. I HAVE GOTTEN TWO TEENS DOWN FROM THE VALLEY THAT ARE ALREADY REGISTERED AND COMING UP.
SO WE MIGHT -- AT ONE POINT WE WERE GOING TO HAVE TO GET A BIGGER PLACE. I LIKE IT HERE BECAUSE IT INVITES EVERYBODY. IF YOU LOOK ON THE TOP IT IS FREE ADMISSION. SO EVERYBODY CAN JUST WALK IN AND COME AND HAVE FUN AND WE WILL HAVE MARRIACHIS AND WE WILL HAVE A BIG BURRITO EATING CHALLENGE.
THERE WILL BE DANCERS AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
WE ACTUALLY PAY AN AWARD FOR THE BEST BOOTH, THE BEST CINCO DE MAYO. WE WANT TO GET IN THE SPIRIT AND WE WANT TO GET, YOU KNOW, ALL THAT GOOD STUFF.
HOPEFULLY EVERYBODY CAN MAKE IT OUT.
THAT'S CINCO DE MAYO. >> THANK YOU.
AND THE FINAL PIECE IS HAVING IT HERE ALL OF THESE FAMILY BUSINESSES BECAUSE THE LION'S SHARE ARE FAMILY BUSINESSES, ALL OF THESE BUSINESSES AROUND DOWNTOWN BENEFIT FROM THE FOOT TRAFFIC. YOU HELP TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR DOWNTOWN CONTINUES TO HAVE A SENSE OF PLACE AND IS A DESTINATION AND THAT BENEFITS EVERYONE IN THIS COMMUNITY.
I HAVE SEEN THE CHAIR OF THE DOWNTOWN AND THE MAIN STREET ADVISORY BOARD. I HAVE BEEN TO DOWNTOWNS THAT
ARE DEAD AND THAT IS A SAD SITE. >> I APPRECIATE IT AND LOOKING FORWARD TO BEING HERE. AND I GUESS WE COORDINATED WITH THE CITY OF SAN MARCOS. I KNOW THAT MAYBE -- YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE POSSIBILITY IS OF CLOSING DOWN AS THEY DO FOR THE FARMER'S MARKET. THEY CLOSE DOWN THE STREET AND
THAT MAY BE SOMETHING WE CAN DO. >> YEAH.
WE ALREADY DO THAT. WE WILL HAVE THAT STAY CLOSED.
>> THEY COORDINATED IT SO THEY CAN BENEFIT THE FARMER'S MARKET.
HOW CAN WE HELP AS MANY PEOPLE AS POSSIBLE WITH EVERY STRIDE.
AND THAT'S WHY WE GET ALONG SO WELL.
THAT'S MY SPIRIT AND THAT'S HIS SPIRIT AND THAT'S WHY THIS IS SUCH A GOOD COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT PIECE.
>> ONE OTHER THING I WANT TO TELL YOU IS SINCE YOU DID USE THOSE FUNDS SPECIFICALLY ON CHILD VISION LAST YEAR, THE LION'S CLUB NATIONALLY AND LOCALLY, THEIR NUMBER ONE PRIORITY IS CHILD VISION. I KNOW THE DRIPPING SPRINGS LION'S CLUB ACTUALLY PROVIDE FREE VISION SCREENINGS AT FOUNDERS DAY IN VISION SPRINGS AND MARKET DAYS IN WIMBERLEY.
THEY HAVE A MOBILE BOOTH THEY CAN COME AND ANY CHILD THAT WALKS UP, THEY CAN SCREEN THEIR VISION AND RECOMMEND THEM IF THEY HAVE TO GO FOR ADDITIONAL SCREENING AT AN OPTOMETRIST OR OPHTHALMOLOGIST THEY WILL GIVE THEM A CERTIFICATE FOR A FREE VISIT SO THEY DON'T HAVE TO PAY FOR THEIR -- FOR THEIR -- FOR THEIR VISIT TO AN OPHTHALMOLOGIST AND THEN THEY WILL TRY TO ADDRESS THAT AND GET GLASSES FOR THOSE CHILDREN.
THAT'S IF THEY NEED THEM AFTER THE FACT.
IF YOU WOULD LIKE, I WOULD BE HAPPY TO PROVIDE INFORMATION TO YOU TO PROVIDE THE FREE SCREENING.
>> ALREADY TAKEN CARE OF, BROTHER.
>> PERFECT. >> THEY WERE PART OF OUR GROUP,
THE BLUE BONNETS WERE. >> GOOD.
>> THEY WERE HERE AND LOCAL. >> BEAUTIFUL.
AND THANK YOU FOR SUGGESTING THAT INFORMATION, COMMISSIONER.
I WOULD RATHER HEAR SOMETHING TWICE THAN NOT AT ALL.
THANK YOU, RICHARD. IF THERE IS SOMETHING, PLEASE
CALL THE ROLL. >> COMMISSIONER COHEN.
>> YES. >> COMMISSIONER SMITH.
>> YES. >> COMMISSIONER SHELL.
>> YES. >> COMMISSIONER INGALSBE.
[G19. Authorize expenditures of up to $1,500.00 for a public Easter Egg Hunt Event to be held on the Courthouse Grounds on April 2, 2023 and amend the budget accordingly.]
SINCE WE HAD THAT CONVERSATION. >> FLIPPING THROUGH THE PAGES
TODAY. >> G19 AUTHORIZE EXPENDITURES UP TO $1500 FOR A PUBLIC EASTER EGG HUNT EVENT TO BE HELD ON THE COURTHOUSE GROUNDS APRIL 2ND, 2023 AND AMEND THE BUDGET
>> SECOND. >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. WE HAVE ONE INDIVIDUAL SIGNED UP TO SPEAK, BUT I HAVE STACKS AND STACKS OF PAPER.
DO YOU REMEMBER WHO YOU WERE TO SPEAK ON G19? NO ONE? OKAY.
MAKING SURE. SO WE KNOW ANITA WOULD BE
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HERE -- I DON'T WANT TO SAY FAMILY EMERGENCY, BUT SHE IS NOT AVAILABLE. AND SO SHE WOULD BE ABLE TO SPEAK ON THIS. I WILL SAY THAT WE HAVE HAD THESE EASTER EGG HUNTS HERE NOW FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS, A FEW YEARS, AND ANOTHER ONE OF THOSE EVENTS THAT HAD BEEN EXCEPTIONALLY, EXSEPGSZLY -- EXCEPTIONALLY SUPPORT -- SUPPORTED. WE ARE TRYING TO MAKE SURE WE COVER EVERYONE. I THINK THIS IS A REAL GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO CONTINUE THAT MAGAZINE TPHEUF SEFPBT -- MAGNIFICENTLY SUPPORTED EVENT THAT I HOPE THEY WILL CONTINUE TO SUPPORT. QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS.>> PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. >> COMMISSIONER COHEN.
>> YES. >> COMMISSIONER SMITH.
>> YES. >> COMMISSIONER INGALSBE.
>> YES. >> COMMISSIONER SHELL.
[CONSENT ITEMS]
>> YES. AND WE CAN START GOING THROUGH CONSENT. IS THAT OKAY WITH YOU GUYS? ALL GOOD? NOTHING ELSE ON THE OTHER SEQUENCE? OKAY.
SO PLEASE OPEN 1 THROUGH 4. >> G1.
APPROVE PAYMENTS OF COUNTY INVOICES.
G2, APPROVE THE PAYMENT OF JUROR CHECKS.
G3, APPROVE THE PAYMENT OF UNITED HEALTHCARE CLAIMS. G4, APPROVE SPECIFICATIONS FOR RFP2023-P05 JAIL FOOD SERVICES AND AUTHORIZE PURCHASING TO ADVISE AND SOLICIT FOR
>> SECOND. >> MR. AMAYA, YOU HAVE THREE
I JUST HAD SOME QUESTIONS. I HEARD THIS COURT TALK ABOUT SHOPPING LOCALLY. ON THE JAIL FOOD SERVICES, I'M JUST CURIOUS AS TO WHY -- I KNOW FOR AWHILE [INAUDIBLE] PRODUCE WAS SUPPLYING THE PRODUCE. I ASKED HIM WHY THEY LOST THE CONTRACT AND HE COULD NEVER GIVE ME A RESPONSE.
WHAT IS THE PROBLEM WITH -- I ASKED IF THEY HAD THE NECESSARY SUPPLIES TO PROVIDE THE JAIL AND NOW MY UNDERSTANDING IS MOST OF THE MEALS COME ALREADY MADE. YAM -- WONDERING WHY SO MUCH TIME WAS INVESTED IN THESE PROJECTS.
THE SHOP LOCAL, SUPPORT LOCAL HAS ALWAYS BEEN ONE OF THE STAPLES IN MY PHILOSOPHY. SO THANK YOU FOR REMINDING US OF
THAT. >> JUDGE, I DON'T KNOW THAT I CAN ANSWER THAT QUESTION FULLY AND I AM NOT CERTAIN -- I DO RECALL WHEN THEY USED TO PURCHASE GROCERIES A THE CUEVAS.
I DON'T KNOW IF THEY DO. I DON'T HAVE THE ANSWER AND I
APOLOGIZE. >> READY FOR MARISOL.
>> YES. WE DO SPEND MORE THAN $50,000 ON OUR FOOD SUPPLIES FOR OUR INMATES.
AND SO WE HAVE TO ENSURE WE ARE FOLLOWING PROPER PREPARING PROCEDURES PER STATE LAWS AND SO WE DID COME TO COMMISSIONER'S COURT PREVIOUSLY AND GOD AN EXTENSION.
THEY HAVE -- AND GET AN EXTENSION.
THEY HAD TO GET THREE A MONTH FOR THE DETENTION CENTER AND JUVENILE DETENTION CENTER WE NEED THREE INDIVIDUAL QUOTES ON A MONTHLY BASIS AND THAT IS WHAT THE JAIL IS CURRENTLY DOING IS OBTAINING QUOTES OR GOING THROUGH A COOPERATIVE PROGRAM FOR OUR FOOD SERVICES. THIS IS, I BELIEVE ONE AND TWO HAVE A SPECIFICATIONS TO SEE AND PREPARE COSTS AND THEN TO SEE IF A VENDOR COMING IN AND PROVIDING THE SERVICES WOULD BE COST BENEFICIAL GIVEN WE HIRE EMPLOYEES TO PREPARE MEALS.
[INAUDIBLE]. >> AND I KNOW IT IS MUCH MORE THAN BUYING FRUITS AND VEGETABLES FROM SOMEBODY LOCAL.
IT IS PREPARATION OF A LARGER MEAL.
SO I UNDERSTAND THAT. I JUST DON'T KNOW IF THEY STILL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SHOP LOCAL.
>> THROUGH THEIR QUOTE PROCESS THEY CAN OBTAIN QUOTES FROM
LOCAL VENDORS AS WELL. >> AND IT IS A GOOD THING TO JUST ALWAYS DOUBLE CHECK THE MARKET AND GET THE BEST PRICING.
SO THAT IS TRADITIONAL FOR PROCUREMENT PURPOSES ESPECIALLY
WITH GOVERNMENT. >> EXACTLY RIGHT.
AND THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I WAS GOING TO SPEAK ON.
ALL TOO OFTEN CERTAIN GROUPS HAVE FULL ACCESS AND AN UNDERSTANDING OF GOVERNMENT CONTRACTS.
AND ALL TOO OFTEN FOR KNOWING -- AND THAT'S THE WAY IT GOES AND THAT'S THE WAY IT HAS GONE FOR TOO MANY DECADES, THOSE IN THE KNOW HIRE THOSE THAT DON'T KNOW TO DO THE WORK.
AND YOU CAN ALWAYS -- I'LL SAY THIS, YOU CAN OFTEN SEE IT OUT HERE ON DAY-TO-DAY LIFE -- IN THE DAY-TO-DAY LIFE WHEN IT
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COMES TO CONTRACTS. I WANT TO SEE IF WE CAN COME UP WITH AND I WOULD LOVE TO -- I WOULD LOVE TO BE A PART OF THIS TO FIND AN OUT REACH MECHANISM SO THAT THOSE THAT DON'T KNOW BECAUSE THEY ARE TOO BUSY DOING WILL HAVE ACCESS AND THE ABILITY TO UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU DO TO BE PART OF THIS PROCESS AND TO BE CONSIDERED BY EVEN JUST US AND HAYS COUNTY GOVERNMENT AND LOCAL GOVERNMENT OF ANY KIND FOR WORK, WHETHER IT BE -- WHATEVER IT MAY BE. AND SO THEY DON'T KNOW.90% OF THE TIME THEY DON'T KNOW THE PROCESS AND THEY DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT ANYTHING. AND THEY GET AUTOMATICALLY SQUEEZED OUT. MR. CUEVAS KNEW THAT PERSONALLY AS WELL. THEY DON'T KNOW WHY, BUT THEY WERE FADED OUT. EVERY CHANCE WE CAN TAKE LOCAL, I THINK WE SHOULD. MARISOL, ON THIS ITEM IS THERE A SENSE OF URGENCY THAT IT NEEDS TO BE VOTED ON TODAY? I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN -- COMMISSIONER, YOU WOULD BE OWE -- OKAY IF WE CAN TABLE IT AND LEAN IF -- LEAN IN FURTHER? I DON'T WANT TO DISRUPT COUNTY OPERATIONS.
>> I DON'T KNOW THE TIMELINE. >> THAT'S A GREAT POINT.
I WOULD LIKE TO SEE HOW WE COULD SUPPORT IT.
>> I AM NOT SURE [INAUDIBLE]. >> SURE.
WE HAVE A LONG AGENDA. WHY DON'T WE TABLE IT FOR NOW.
IS THAT OKAY, COMMISSIONER? I WOULD LIKE TO SEE HOW WE CAN SUPPORT MORE LOCALS IN ANYWAY WE CAN.
>> WE CAN VOTE ON 1 THROUGH 3 AND THEN COME BACK IN A LITTLE
CALL THE ROLL FOR ITEMS 1, 2 AND 3.
>> COMMISSIONER SHELL. >> YES.
>> COMMISSIONER SMITH. >> YES.
>> COMMISSIONER INGALSBE. >> YES.
>> COMMISSIONER COHEN. >> YES.
>> PLEASE OPEN 5 THROUGH 10. >> G5, ACCEPT THE 2022 RACIAL PROFILING REPORT FROM THE HAYS COUNTY CONSTABLE OFFICE PRECINCT 3. G6, AUTHORIZE THE SUBMISSION OF A GRANT RENEWAL TO THE DEPARTMENT OF STATE HEALTH SERVICES FY24 REGIONAL LOCAL SERVICES SYSTEM/LOCAL PUBLIC HEALTH SERVICES IN THE AMOUNT OF $102,926.
G7, AUTHORIZE THE EXECUTION OF A NO-COST CONTRACT AMENDMENT TO THE DSHS PUBLIC HEALTH WORKFORCE GRANT CONTRACT.
G8, AUTHORIZE BUILDING MAINTENANCE TO REPLACE THE 10-TON HVAC ROOFTOP UNIT NUMBER 4, RTU-4 AT THE HAYS COUNTY COURTHOUSE IN THE AMOUNT OF $17,102.24.
AND AMEND THE BUDGET ACCODINGLY.
G9, AUTHORIZE PAYMENT TO AUSTIN EXTREME GRAPHICS FOR VEHICLE GRAPHICS TO A 2022 CHEVROLET TAHOE IN THE AMOUNT OF $805.17 FOR THE HAYS COUNTY CONSTABLE PRECINCT 4 OFFICE IN WHICH A PURCHASE ORDER WAS NOT OBTAINED PER THE COUNTY PURCHASING POLICY AND AMEND THE BUDGET ACCORDINGLY.
G10, AUTHORIZE BUILDING MAINTENANCE TO INSTALL A HANDICAP PUSH-BUTTON OPERATOR SYSTEM IN THE AMOUNT OF $5,492.36 ON THE ELECTED OFFICIALS' EXISTING REAR ENTRANCE DOOR OF THE GOVERNMENT CENTER AND AMEND THE BUDGET
>> A MOTION AND A SECOND. QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS.
>> I NEED TO MAKE A CORRECTION TO G5.
THAT SHOULD BE 2 AND NOT 3. >> THANK YOU.
EDIT ON G5, PRECINCT 2. COMMISSIONER? THAT WAS YOURS AS WELL. BEAUTIFUL.
IF YOU WILL, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.
>> COMMISSIONER SMITH. >> YES.
>> COMMISSIONER COHEN. >> YES.
>> COMMISSIONER SHELL. >> YES.
>> COMMISSIONER INGALSBE. >> YES.
PLEASE OPEN G16. >> G16 AMEND THE COUNTY JUDGE'S OPERATING BUDGET TO REIMBURSE THE TRAVEL EXPENSES IN THE AMOUNT OF $593.16 FOR IN-PERSON EVALUATION OF THE CONDITIONS OF DTENTION CENTERS FOR OUT SOURCED INMATES.
>> WE HAVE MR. RODRIG AMAYA SIGNED UP TO SPEAK.
>> THANK YOU JUDGE AND COURT. ON THIS AGENDA ITEM, A LITTLE CONCERNED ABOUT THE TBD ON THE BACK UP, TO BE DETERMINED I'M ASSUMING, AND THERE IS NO SUMMARY.
AS FAR AS SENDING SOMEONE OUT TO EVALUATE THE CONDITIONS OF THE
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DETENTION CENTER -- >> JUST SO YOU KNOW IT WAS ME.
>> I'M JUST WONDERING WHO WAS SENT -- THE JAIL STANDARDS COMMISSION USUALLY WHEN I WANT TO KNOW ABOUT THE NON-COMPLIANCE JAILS I WROTE ON MY LAPTOP AND I CLICK IT.
BOOM. I AM WONDERING WHY WE ARE HAVING TO PHYSICALLY GO -- SINCE WE HAVE A STATE AGENCY THAT HANDLES THAT STUFF AND A LOT OF THEM ARE A LITTLE MORE TRAINED.
I DON'T KNOW WHO THE INDIVIDUAL SELECTED WAS OR WHAT KIND OF BACKGROUND HE HAS TO BE ABLE TO PROPERLY IDENTIFY, YOU KNOW, FACILITY VIOLATIONS AND STUFF LIKE THAT, HOW MUCH WAS ORIGINALLY BUDGETED FOR THIS AND WHY THE UH MEMBEREDDED -- WHY THE AMENDED REIMBURSEMENT. THOSE ARE SOME OF THE CONCERNS THAT WHO WAS IT AND HOW WELL TRAINED ARE THEY AND WHAT DID THEY BRING BACK AND IN MY OPINION WHEN I CLICK ON THE LAPTOP I AM ABLE TO GET TO THE JAIL STANDARDS COMMISSION.
I HAVE HAD SOME SITUATIONS WHERE I HAD TO REPORT SOME OF THESE INVESTIGATORS BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT FOLLOWING THEIR MISSION STATEMENT OF THEIR AGENCY. THAT'S BEEN CALLED INTO QUESTION FOR SOME OF THESE GUYS TOO. I WAS WONDER WHOG IT WAS AND WHAT THEY FOUND OUT AND WHY NOT JUST CLICK -- WONDERING WHO IT
WAS AND WHAT THEY FOUND OUT. >> THAT WAS ME.
I STARTED AND I WENT BECAUSE I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT AS FRESH EYES TO SEE WHERE WE ARE SENDING OUR NEIGHBORS AND SEE WHERE WE ARE SENDING OUR RESIDENTS AND THE CLICKING OF A MOUSE MAY SOUND EASY AND CONVENIENT, BUT THERE IS NOTHING LIKE WALKING INTO A FACILITY THAT TO ME -- I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S THE INTENT, BUT TO ME IT IS LIKE -- I DON'T KNOW.
I WANT TO BE CAREFUL WITH MY WORDS, BUT IT IS -- IT IS VERY DEBILITATING FOR ME TO WALK INTO THESE PLACES.
IT IS A REAL EMOTIONAL TRAUMA FOR ME TO WALK AROUND THESE PLACES. IT REALLY IS.
IT IS NO PICNIC. I DO IT BECAUSE I WANT TO SEE -- I WANT TO SEE WHERE OUR NEIGHBORS ARE.
IF A MOTHER TUGS ON ME AT HEB I WANT TO BE ABLE TO SAY, YES, I VISITED AND I SAW. THIS IS GOING ON AND THESE ARE THE CONDITIONS. I KNOW THAT MAY NOT BE CUSTOM MARY FOR COUNTY -- CUSTOMARY FOR COUNTY JUDGES TO LEAN IN AND VISIT WITH THE SHERIFFS AND UNDERSTAND WHAT IS GOING ON.
I DO IT BECAUSE -- I DON'T WANT TO SOUND RUDE, BUT I HAVE MY STYLE OF ASSESSING THAT I TAKE A LOT IN BY BEING THERE AND TO READ A LINE ITEM THAT SAYS COMPLIANT DOESN'T QUITE MEET THE MUSTER FOR ME. I HAVE SEEN COMPLIANCE WHEN WE KNOW WE DON'T HAVE IT AS A REGISTRATION INDICATOR.
AND SO I'M JUST GRATEFUL THAT THESE TIMES I HAVE GONE OUT, AND I WILL CONTINUE TO OCCASIONALLY GO OUT PERIODICALLY -- I MEAN IT IS NOT GOING TO BE A ROUTINE FOR ME, BUT I DO HEAR THINGS I WANT TO VERIFY. TRUST, BUT VERIFY.
I BELIEVE THAT IS MY DUTY. I BELIEVE THAT IS MY JOB.
AND ME AS -- I MEAN, THE CHAIR OF THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT HEARS COMMENTS AND CONCERNS, I WANT TO LEAN IN AND I WANT TO ADDRESS THEM SO I CAN COME BACK AND SPEAK ABOUT THEM INTELLIGENTLY. SO I AM GRATEFUL THE PLACES I HAVE BEEN, SO FAR, SO GOOD. IT IS SAD.
I AM NOT GOING TO LIE ABOUT IT. IT IS SAD.
I AM NOT TRYING TO MAKE IT A POLITICAL PIECE TO LOOK IN THESE LITTLE WINDOWS AND SEE HAYS COUNTY ON THE BACK OF SOMEONE'S SHIRT. IT TUGS AT MY HEART.
IT REALLY DOES. I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WITHIN THE PARAMETERS OF WHAT'S GOING ON, THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY ARE INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY SO WE ARE TAKING CARE OF THEM IN THE WAY THEY SHOULD BE TAKEN CARE OF.
THAT'S THE SPIRIT AND THE INTENT.
THANK YOU, MR. AMAYA. ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS?
>> AND THIS ONE WAS FOR THE MAVERICK COUNTY?
>> YES. AND MAVERICK COUNTY WAS INCLUDED IN THAT ONE. YES.
IF THERE'S NOTHING ELSE? >> NO.
>> FOR THE RECORD SAYING THIS ABOUT TRAVEL EXPENSES -- [INAUDIBLE]. I KNOW OUR POLICY ALLOWS THE USE IN THE COUNTY TRAVEL -- [INAUDIBLE] I WILL FOLLOW-UP THAT I DO BELIEVE -- [INAUDIBLE] THESE JAILS AND WE ARE SPENDING MONEY FOR IS WITHIN THE SCOPE OF WHAT WE SHOULD DO AS LONG AS WE EXPLAIN FOR MAVERICK COUNTY, BUT EXACTLY WHAT THAT WAS, AND I KNOW I BROUGHT THIS ISSUE UP BEFORE.
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I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I CONTINUE TO SAY THAT.THAT'S WHAT I DO. I WANT TO BRING THAT UP.
I KNOW OUR POLICY ALLOWS IT. AND IT IS ONE OF THOSE THINGS I THINK WE SHOULD TRY TO DO OUR BEST TO OUT -- TO UTILIZE.
>> I AGREE WITH COMMISSIONER SHELL'S COMMENTS AND HE TOOK EVERYTHING I WAS WANTING TO SAY. THE ONE THING I WOULD ADD SPECIFICALLY -- WELL, REALLY TWO THINGS.
AS WE LOOK AT ANY TYPE OF TRAVEL FOR ANYONE ELSE, WE HAVE SPECIFIC DIRECTION. I WILL USE OUR EDUCATION AS AN EXAMPLE OF THAT. WE CAN BE REIMBURSE -- REIMBURSED FOR TRAVEL TO OUR EDUCATION AND THERE IS A LINE ITEM FOR EDUCATION EXPENSE ALONG WITH WHAT COMMISSIONER SHELL SAID THE PORTION OF THE PAY RELATED TO THE TRAVEL REIMBURSEMENT. ANY OF OUR EMPLOYEE THAT'S GO TO THESE -- GO TO CONFERENCES OR TRAVEL OUT OF THE COUNTY GENERALLY COME -- ESPECIALLY IF IT IS ABOVE $500 THEY COME BEORE THE COURT AND ASK FOR THE PERMISSION FOR THAT, FOR THE MONEY TO BE SPENT AND WE IDENTIFY WHERE THE FUNDS COME FROM. AT THE END OF THE DAY IF YOU WILL CONTINUE TO DO THESE WHICH I AGREE WITH COMMISSIONER SHELL THAT YOU HAVE EVERY RIGHT AND IT IS WELL WITHIN YOUR PER VIEW TO DO THAT. I ASK YOU REFLECT THAT IN YOUR BUDGET SO WE ARE NOT JUST TAKING IT FROM THE GENERAL FUND IN THE FUTURE AND WE CAN BUDGET ACCORDINGLY.
AND THEN THE OTHER THING I WOULD SAY IS -- EXACTLY LIKE MY QUESTION FROM THE LAST TIME WE HAD ONE OF THESE WAS WAS IT -- ARE WE PAYING FOR YOUR EXPENSE TO GO THERE OR WERE THERE OUTSIDE INDIVIDUALS WITH YOU? AND ARE WE PAYING FOR THEIR TRANSPORTATION AND THEIR TRAVEL THERE AS WELL? THAT'S A CONCERN FOR ME AS IT WAS LAST TIME.
IF THERE WASN'T, THEN GREAT. I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT. I DON'T BELIEVE IT IS THE ROLE OF THE COUNTY TO PAY FOR TRAVEL FOR OUTSIDE OF, YOU KNOW, PUBLIC INTEREST GROUPS OR ANYONE ELSE. IF THEY ARE COUNTY EMPLOYEES AND THOSE KIND OF THINGS. -- THINGS, I UNDERSTAND IT.
>> THANK YOU. SO THIS AGENDA ITEM IS FOR MY
REIMBURSEMENT ONLY. >> YOUR REIMBURSEMENT?
WHO ELSE WAS WITH YOU. >> A COUNTY EMPLOYEE.
ONLY A COUNTY EMPLOYEE. >> COULD YOU CLARIFY THAT?
>> WHO WAS WITH ME SPECIFICALLY? >> YES.
>> SURE. OUR CHIEF OF STAFF ALEX
VILLALOBOS. >> YOU HAVE BEEN ACTIVE AND ADAMANT ON DESCRIPTIONS AND OUR -- IN OUR AGENDA ITEMS AND I APPRECIATE THAT. TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE IS ABSOLUTE TRANSPARENCY AND, YOU KNOW, OPENNESS WITH THE GENERAL PUBLIC. SO WHENEVER WE GOT THIS I WOULD GREAT WITH MR. AMAYA, THE SUMMARY IS ABSOLUTELY BLANK.
SO YOUR CLARIFICATION IS HELPFUL AND I APPRECIATE THAT.
I DID NOT SUPPORT YOUR REIMBURSEMENT FOR THE LAST ONE OF THESE SIMPLY BECAUSE THERE WAS AN OUTSIDE GROUP ASSOCIATED WITH IT. IF THIS IS JUST AND YOU A COUNTY EMPLOYEE I WOULD BE SUPPORTIVE OF IT.
>> THANK YOU. PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.
>> COMMISSIONER INGALSBE. >> YES.
>> COMMISSIONER SHELL. >> YES.
>> COMMISSIONER COHEN. >> YES.
>> PLEASE OPEN 10 THROUGH 15. >> DIDN'T WE DO 10?
>> I MEAN 11 THROUGH 15. >> G11, APPROVE OUT OUT OF STATE TRAVEL UTILIZING THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE CONTINUING EDUCATION FUNDS FOR ENERGY COMMUNICATIONS MANAGER MEGAN JONES AND EMERGENCY COMMUNICATIONS OFFICER SEAN BEST, TORI TYLER, HALEY CAMPBELL AND SAMANTHA PETERSON TO ATTEND THE NAVIGATOR CONFERENCE ON APRIL 17-2, 2023 IN DENVER, COLORADO.
G12, AUTHORIZE THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE TO ACCEPT A DONATION OF $750 FROM THE SAN MARCOS LION'S CLUB FROM THE 2023 JUNIOR DEPUTY PROGRAM AND AMEND THE BUDGET ACCORDINGLY.
G13, AUTHORIZE THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE TO USE EXISTING FUNDS TO PURCHASE THREE DRONES VALUED AT $19,864.13.
G-14 AUTHORIZE PAYMENT TO QUANTUM TOWING OF $750 FOR AN EVIDENTIARY TOW FOR THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE IN WHICH NO PURCHASE ORDER WAS ISSUED AS REQUIRED TPER THE COUNTY
PURCHASING POLICY. >> G15, AUTHORIZE PAYMENT TO ENTERPRISE FLEET MANAGEMENT OF $11,946.50 FOR SETTLEMENT CHARGES RELATED TO A TOTALED LEASE VEHICLE IN THE SHERIFF'S
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OFFICE AND AMEND THE BUDGET ACCORDINGLY.G17, APPROVE THE FILING OF TAX ASSESSOR COLLECTOR JENNIFER OKAN'S CONTINUING EDUCATION TRANSCRIPT AS REQUIRED BISECTION 6.231D OF THE TEXAS PROPERTY TAX CODE.
G18, APPROVE PAYMENT OF $375 TO WALDRIP INSURANCE AGENCY FOR THE ANNUAL TAX ASSESSOR COLLECTOR FIDELITY BOND WHERE NO PURCHASE ORDER WAS ISSUED AS REQUIRED PER THE COUNTY PURCHASING POLICY.
>> A MOTION AND A SECOND. VICKY, COULD YOU EXPLAIN NUMBER 15 A BIT MORE? I MEAN, IT IS WELL WRITTEN, BUT I WANT TO SEE IF YOU CAN SHED SOME LIGHT ON THERE FOR THE
VICKY DORSET, HAYS COUNTY BUDGET OFFICER.
LAST YEAR THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE TOTALED A LEASED VEHICLE AND IN AN EFFORT TO GET THAT REPLACED, WE DO HAVE A PAYOUT THAT IS ROLLED INTO THE LEASE PAYMENTS ANNUALLY.
THERE WAS -- WE DID ENSURE OUR LEASED VEHICLES AND SO WE WILL GET INSURANCE PROCEEDS TO COVER THAT LOSS.
IS THERE SOMEONE HERE FROM THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT ON THE DRONE. THE 13, DRONE ITEM.
>> COMMISSIONER SHELL, MAYBE YOU KNOW?
>> I CAN EXPLAIN THAT THE BUDGET WE DID FOR THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE TO PURCHASE TWO DRONES. THEY PURCHASED ONE OF THOSE TWO AND THEY ARE NOW ALLOWED TO PURCHASE INSTEAD OF JUST THE SECOND ONE, THREE SMALLER DRONES.
SO LESS EXPENSIVE DRONES, BUT THREE OF THEM IN LIEU OF THE ONE. WE BUDGETED FOR THE TWO IN THIS YEAR'S BUDGET. I ALWAYS SAY THIS ABOUT DRONES.
WE UNDERSTAND THAT THEY ARE USEFUL IN INVESTIGATION AND PUBLIC SAFETY AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
THERE ARE ALWAYS CONCERNS ABOUT PRIVACY AND WE STRESS THE FACT THAT WE DO NOT USE THEM TO SURVEIL THE PUBLIC.
I KNOW THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE HAS A POLICY ON THEM, BUT WE OBVIOUSLY WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE NOT -- [INAUDIBLE] VERY EASY FOR PUBLIC SAFETY USED FOR -- [INAUDIBLE].
>> DO WE KNOW HOW MANY DRONES WE HAVE CURRENTLY? I WAS PEPPERED WITH QUESTIONS. SO I WILL ASK A FEW.
>> I KNOW WE HAVE -- [INAUDIBLE] THEY HAVE SOME THAT ARE USED WITH CERTAIN TEAMS. THERE ARE TIMES WHEN THEY HAVE USED VOLUNTEER ORGANIZATIONS ON A SEARCH AND RESCUE.
I CAN'T TELL YOU EXACTLY WHAT WE HAVE.
>> WHAT I AM WONDERING -- LIKE I SAID, I WAS PEPPERED WITH QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS ITEM. I WANT TO ADDRESS THE QUESTIONS SO THE VIEWING PUBLIC CAN UNDERSTAND WHAT THIS IS ABOUT.
FROM THE LIMITED COMMUNITY PERSPECTIVE WE HAVE ENOUGH -- I WILL SAY IT THIS WAY. WE DON'T HAVE A SOLID ANSWER RIGHT NOW. IT IS NOT A JAB ON YOU, COMMISSIONER. IT IS NOT MAJOR -- NOT YOUR JOB TO HAVE A SOLID ANSWER. I DON'T KNOW IF IT IS A GOOD USE OF TAXPAYER DOLLARS TO BUY MORE. SO IF YOU STOPPED THERE, THAT WOULD BE ENOUGH. AND THEN THERE ARE CONCERNS ABOUT IT BEING USED FOR SURVEILLANCE.
THE WAY IT WAS DESCRIBED TO ME IT WAS KIND OF LIKE THE FBI WATCHING OVER TERRORISTS THE WAY IT WAS FRAMED AT THAT TIME.
>> [INAUDIBLE]. >> AND SO I AM JUST CONCERNED.
I HAVE ALWAYS -- THROUGH THE BUDGET, I HAVE SHOWN SUPPORT FOR THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE. THAT IS WELL DOCUMENTED.
BUT I AM CONCERNED ABOUT THIS LINE ITEM TO BUY MORE DRONES AND NOT KNOWING OUR USAGE AT THE TIME AND IF WE NEED MORE AND WHAT WILL THE FUTURE USE BE FOR IT.
UNFORTUNATELY I'M RELUCTANT TO SUPPORT THIS EXPENSE JUST BECAUSE THE MONEY IS THERE. MAYBE THEY CAN USE IT IN ANOTHER WAY. I WANT TO SUPPORT THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS THE BEST WAY TO BE USING THAT MONEY. COMMISSIONERS, YOUR THOUGHTS?
>> I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY MAYBE WE CAN HAVE SOMEONE COME OVER AND SPEAK ON THE ITEM, COMMISSIONER, IF WE FEEL THAT IS
APPROPRIATE? >> I KNOW WE TALKED ABOUT THIS IN PRIOR BOARD MEETINGS AND POLICIES.
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[INAUDIBLE] IF SOMEONE HAS ISSUES [INAUDIBLE] THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE AND IT WOULD BE THEIR JOB TO ADDRESS THOSE.[INAUDIBLE] TO BE USED FOR PUBLIC SAFETY PURPOSES AND SEARCH AND RESCUE AND I THINK [INAUDIBLE] THERE ARE COMPLAINTS THEY HAVE BEEN DEPLOYED IN CERTAIN WAYS THAT'S SOMETHING TO BRING TO THE ATTENTION OF THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE.
>> SO DO WE FEEL LIKE TABLING THIS? IS THAT OKAY, COMMISSIONERS, TO GET MORE INFORMATION.
>> I GUESS. >> WE WILL TABLE THIS ONE? IS THAT OKAY UNTIL WE GET MORE INFORMATION?
>> IF THAT IS WHAT THE COURT WOULD LIKE TO DO.
>> IT SEEMS LIKE IT. THANK YOU.
ON THE REMAINDER CALL THE ROLL. >> COMMISSIONER COHEN.
>> YES. >> COMMISSIONER INGALSBE.
>> YES. >> COMMISSIONER COMMISSIONER
>> SO THAT TAKES US TO 23, 25, PLEASE.
SORRY. G20, AUTHORIZE THE JUVENILE PROBATION DEPARTMENT TO PURCHASE VEHICLE EQUIPMENT VALUED AT $5,23.91 FROM DANA SAFETY SUPPLY INC. FOR THE 2018 DODGE CARAVAN LEASED VEHICLE AND AMEND THE BUDGET ACCORDINGLY.
G21, AUTHORIZE PAYMENT TO APPLIED CONCEPTS INC. FOR REPAIRS TO AN LIDAR RADAR SYSTEM IN THE AMOUNT OF $527.50 FOR THE HAYS COUNTY CONSTABLE PRECINCT 4 OFFICE IN WHICH A PURCHASE ORDER WAS NOT OBTAINED PER COUNTY POLICY AND AMEND THE BUDGET ACCORDINGLY. G22, AUTHORIZE THE EXECUTION OF AN MOU WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF STATE HEALTH SERVICES RELATED TO THE TEXAS SYNDROMIC SURVEILLANCE SYSTEM.
AND G23 APPROVE UTILITY PERMITS. G24, APPROVE THE APPOINTMENT OF COMMISSIONER MICHELLE COHEN TO THE CARTS BOARD OF DIRECTORS.
G25, ACCEPT THE DELIVERY OF THE INTERNAL EXAMINATION REPORTS FOR FISCAL YEAR 2022 HAYS COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE FEDERAL DISCRETIONARY ACCOUNT FISCAL YEAR 2021 HAYS COUNTY SHERIFF CHAPTER 59 ASSET FORFEITURE ACCOUNT, AND FISCAL YEAR 2022 HAYS COUNTY CONSTABLE PRECINCT 2 CHAPTER 59 ASSET FORFEITURE
>> SECOND. >> AND WE HAVE ONE INDIVIDUAL SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON NUMBER 25. MR. DAN LYON.
>> THANK YOU, JUDGE BACERRA. I WAS LOOKING UP THE BACK HERE AND THERE IS LIKE 16 PAGES AND GEE IT JUST GOES ON AND ON.
WHAT REALLY JUMPS OUT TO ME AND CONCERNS ME MOST OF ALL, THERE WAS A LETTER WRITTEN BY THE HAYS COUNTY AUDITOR'S DEPARTMENT, THAT'S MARISOL, TO THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE AND THERE ARE THREE CASES HERE, CASE 21-2181 SAYS $3655 IN U.S. CURRENCY WAS NOT REPORTED AND MISSING FROM THE HAYS COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE SEIZURES/FORFEITURE LISTING, SECTION 1 SEIZED FUNDS B2 -- ALL RIGHT. CASE 20-0148, $418 AND 20-2366, $900. VEHICLES WERE PUT INTO USE IN THE HAYS COUNTY D.A.'S PORTION OF INTEREST FROM EACH CASE -- AND I DIDN'T FINISH. LET'S SEE IF I GOT IT HERE.
LET ME SKIP ON. CASE 20-0148 VEHICLE 2006 GRAY AUDI A6 WAS DISPOSED AND FORFEITED TO TKPWAUD LUPE -- GUADELOUPE COUNTY AND NOT REPORTED.
THESE DON'T SOUND LIKE OVERSIGHTS TO ME.
FRANKLY THEY SOUND LIKE CRIMINAL CASES.
THERE NEEDS TO BE MORE THAN JUST A LITTLE SLAP ON THE WRIST AND MAYBE Y'ALL APPROVE OF IT AND NOT TELLING THE PUBLIC WHAT IS REALLY GOING ON HERE. HERE IS 16 PAGES OF THIS STUFF.
I WISH MORE OF THIS WOULD BE EXPOSED TO THE PUBLIC.
THIS IS UNACCEPTABLE. WE CANNOT ACCEPT THIS REPORT
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UNTIL WE FIND OUT WHAT HAPPENED TO THAT $3655 IN U.S. CURRENCY WHICH WAS NOT ONLY NOT REPORTED, IT'S MISSING.UNACCEPTABLE. THE VEHICLE THAT WAS DISPOSED OF, THE GRAY AUDI A6, GIVEN TO GUADELOUPE COUNTY.
THAT'S OUR VEHICLE. THAT BELONGS TO US, THE PEOPLE OF HA*EURZ COUNTY. HAYS COUNTY.
JUST BECAUSE IT IS FORFEITURE DOES NOT MEAN THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE CAN DO WHATEVER THEY WISH WITH THE PROPERTY.
THIS SHOULD BE A CRIMINAL CASE. BOTH THESE, AND IF I HAD GOTTEN CASE NUMBER 20-0148 FOR $418 AND ANOTHER 20-2366, ANOTHER $900, YOU -- I BELIEVE THAT SHOULD BE A CRIMINAL CASE TOO.
WHAT THE HECK IS GOING ON HERE? WHAT ARE YOU PEOPLE DOING?
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> COMMISSIONER DAN LYON, THANK YOU VERY MUCH AND WE ALWAYS APPRECIATE IT.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR ENERGY. MARISOL?
>> IF YOU REVIEWED THE ACTUAL REPORT, THE FINDING IS THAT IT WAS INCORRECTLY REPORTED. THE CASH WAS DEPOSITED AND THE PROPERTY WAS SEIZED AS WELL AS THE VEHICLES.
THEY WERE EITHER TAKEN IN BY THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE AND THE INDIVIDUAL INTERESTS WERE PAID IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE AGENCY CONTRACT THEY HAVE IN CHAPTER 59 WHICH IS THE FORFEITURE FUNDS AND SEIZURES. SO ALL OF THE SEIZURES WERE DONE WHAT THEY DID INCORRECTLY WAS REPORT IT TO THE AUDITOR'S OFFICE. THIS REPORT HAS TO BE CERTIFIED BY THE AUDITOR'S OFFICE AND THE AGENCY WHICH IS THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE. THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE FINANCIAL MANAGER DID NOT REPORT THOSE INSTANCES, THOSE CASES TO THE AUDITOR'S OFFICE, BUT DURING OUR AUDIT AND OUR REVIEW WE FOUND THOSE CASES. THEY WERE INCLUDED IN THE FINAL REPORT. THEY WERE AUDITED TO DETERMINE THE FUNDS WERE DEPOSITED AND THE INDIVIDUAL VEHICLES WERE APPROPRIATELY SEIZED AND INTEREST WAS PAID BY THE OTHER AGENCIES. HOWEVER, THE FINANCIAL MANAGER HAD NOT REPORTED THAT TO US. IT WAS CORRECTED.
HER REPORT WAS CORRECTED AND WE CONTACTED HER AND SAID IT IS IMPORTANT TO PROVIDE THAT TO US. WE HAVE CHECKS AND BALANCES SO WE CAN FIND THE CASE THAT'S ARE SEIZED THROUGH THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE AND THAT'S WHERE WE WERE ABLE TO TEST THE COMPLETENESS AND FOUND THE ITEMS. THEY HAVE IMPLEMENTED NEW PROCEDURES IN THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE SO THIS DOES NOT HAPPEN AGAIN.
IF IT DOES WE ARE HERE TO CERTIFY THE REPORT TO THE ATTORNEY GENERAL THAT WE HAVE CHECKED IT FOR COMPLETENESS.
>> SO TO RECAP, HAVE YOU NO CONCERNS WITH THE REPORT AS THE
AUDITOR? >> THE REPORT HAS BEEN CORRECTED , AND IT HAS BEEN FILED APPROPRIATELY.
WE COUNSELED THE FINANCIAL MANAGER IN THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE TO MAKE SURE SHE REPORTS THE ADDITIONAL SEIZURES TO OUR
OFFICE. >> AND THE MONEY AND VEHICLE
HAVE -- >> THE MONEY AND THE VEHICLE HAVE BEEN ACCOUNTED FOR AND THEY HAVE BEEN DISPERSED IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE COURT ORDER FOR THE PROCEDURE.
>> COMMISSIONERS? >> [INAUDIBLE] BRANDS AND ALL SOPBDZ OF THINGS THAT THE -- ALL SORTS OF THINGS THAT THE COUNTY -- [INAUDIBLE] THAT THE AUDITOR HAS AND CORRECTED IN THE
PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. >> COMMISSIONER SHELL.
>> YES. >> COMMISSIONER SMITH.
>> YES. >> COMMISSIONER INGALSBE.
>> YES. >> COMMISSIONER COHEN.
>> JUDGE CAN I MAKE ONE COMMENT ON THE PREVIOUS ONE? ON ITEM 21, THE $527.50, THE ACTUAL COST WAS UNDER $500 ON THE REPAIR OF THE UNIT. IF YOU BUY A NEW UNIT IT IS $2,000. WHENEVER THEY SHIFT THE ITEM THEY CHARGED US FOR -- WHEN THEY SHIPPED THE ITEM THEY CHARGED US THE EXTRA $75 AND SO IT WENT OVER THE BUDGET.
CONGRATULATIONS TO COMMISSIONER COHEN AND I WILL REACH OUT TO YOU. WHILE CARTS HAS THEIR COVERAGE IN THE SERVICE AREA HERE WE HAVE REAL ISSUES IN OUR PRECINCT -- OR IN YOUR PRECINCT AND MY PRECINCT SPECIFICALLY WITH THE FACT THAT THERE ARE SOME OTHER CARTS PARTNERS THERE THAT ARE UNDER CONTRACT TO TAKE CARE OF RESIDENTS IN OUR AREA AND THE UNINCORPORATED AREA OF THE COUNTY AND IT IS NOT GETTING DONE. I WANT TO LEAN ON YOU A LITTLE BIT TO HELP US WITH THAT PROBLEM THAT WE BOTH HAVE IN THAT
SPECIFIC AREA. >> ABSOLUTELY AND THAT'S COME UP RECENTLY WERE SOME RESIDENTS NOT HAVING ACCESS TO TRANSPORTATION IN THOSE RURAL AREAS. SO THAT'S SOMETHING I DEFINITELY
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WANT TO ADDRESS AS WELL. ALSO JUST BEFORE WE MOVE FORWARD, I SEE FOUR -- IT IS WHAT I CALL UNAUTHORIZED PURCHASES IN OUR AGENDA THUS FAR.USUALLY THAT'S A BIG DEAL IN MOST STATE AGENCIES I WORKED FOR BEFORE. OTHER THAN JUST NOTING THEM, MARISOL, ON THE AGENDA, WHAT OTHER FOLLOW-UP MEASURES CAN WE DO AS A COURT TO MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE ARE FOLLOWING PURCHASING
POLICY AND THINGS LIKE THAT? >> BEFORE IT GETS ON TO THE AGENDA WE DO SEND OUT LETTERS TO THE DEPARTMENT HEADS AND WE REMIND THEM AND SPEAK TO THEIR STAFF WHO IS RESPONSIBLE FOR PROCUREMENT AND REMIND THEM THAT WE HAVE POLICIES APPROVED BY COMMISSIONER'S COURT. I DO NOT HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO WAIVE THOSE POLICIES SO THEY HAVE TO PLACE AN ITEM ON THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT AGENDA FOR APPROVAL OF PAYMENT.
A LOT OF THESE ARE MAYBE BECAUSE THEY TOOK IN A VEHICLE AND THEY DID NOT REALIZE THE ACTUAL EXPENDITURES.
WE DO COUNCIL THEM AND TELL THEM WHY DON'T YOU GET A PO.
IT DOES GO OVER IF YOU ARE NOT SURE YOUR EXPENDITURES WILL NOT EXSAID THE $500. WE HAVE SENT OUT EMAILS IN THE PAST AND I AM HAPPY TO DO THAT AGAIN.
>> I APPRECIATE THAT. >> GREAT QUESTIONS.
PLEASE OPEN 26 TO 29. >> G26, AUTHORIZE THE COUNTY JUDGE TO EXECUTE A CONTRACT AMENDMENT BETWEEN HAYS COUNTY AND SHI GOVERNMENTAL SOLUTIONS PURSUANT TO OUR MICROSOFT ENTERPRISE ENROLLMENT AGREEMENT, 49746921, ARE TO ADD THE COUNTY JUDGE AS THE OFFICIAL SIGNATORY ON ALL CONTRACTS.
G27, APPROVE THE UPGRADES TO AREAS C, D AND MAIN JAIL VISITINGS AREAS IN THE HAYS COUNTY JAIL WITH CORNER STONE DETENTION PRODUCTS INC. PURSUANT TO THE GSA CONTRACT GA-07F-269AA, AND AUTHORIZE A DISCRETIONARY EXEMPTION PURSUANT TO TEXAS LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE CHAPTER 262.024A7D FOR ALL OPEN MARKET ITEMS. G28, AUTHORIZE AND/OR RATIFY EXECUTION OF A FOURTH AMENDMENT TO THE COUNTY WIDE DUMPSTER CONTRACT, IFB2021-B12, IN RELATION TO DEBRIS REMOVAL UNDER THE DECLARATION OF LOCAL DISASTER AS AUTHORIZED BISECTION 262-031A OF THE TEXAS LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE.
G29, APPROVE THE HART INTERCIVIC REPAIRS ESTIMATE IN THE AMOUNT OF $525,000 FOR 13VERITY DUO MACHINES THAT ARE NO LONGER UNDER WARRANTY AND AUTHORIZE A DISCRETIONARY EXEMPTION PURSUANT TO TEXAS LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE CHAPTER 262.024A7D.
>> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND AND I HAVE BEEN ASKED TO HAVE THE COMMISSIONERS, EXCEPT FOR SMITH, HIS IS PERFECT, COMMISSIONERS PLEASE ADJUST YOUR MICROPHONES.
APPARENTLY THEY ARE TOO FAR AWAY.
>> IS MINE ON? THE LIGHT IS NOT ON, BUT IT SAYS
>> EVERYONE IS ON EXCEPT YOUR PLACEMENT IS FAR FROM YOU AND FOLKS ARE HAVING A DIFFICULT TIME HEARING YOU.
>> THAT ALMOST WORKED. HE MAY HAVE A WIRE THAT IS CAUSING TROUBLE WHEN YOU MOVE IT.
LET ME SEE IF I CAN HELP YOU. >> I SAW THE -- SOMEBODY CAN HELP COMMISSIONER SHELL'S MICROPHONE TO BE VISITED LATER.
IT DOES WORK SPORADICALLY. THANK YOU FOR THE NOTE --
NOTIFICATION. >> JUDGE, I JUST WANTED TO MENTION SOMETHING ON ITEM NUMBER 27.
I WANTED CLARIFICATION AND THAT IS SPECIFICALLY FOR THE CONTROL PANELS, THE ATTORNEY VISITATION EXPANSION WILL BE COMING ON A FUTURE COMMISSIONER'S COURT AGENDA ITEM WHICH IS EXTREMELY
WE HAVE ONE SPEAKER SIGNED UP TO SPEAK?
G29. >> THANK YOU JUDGE BACERRA.
AGAIN IN THE INTEREST OF CLARITY AND THE PUBLIC KNOWING WHAT'S GOING ON HERE. ALL RIGHT, THE VERITW DUO MACHINE IS ASKING FOR MONEY TO REPAIR 13DUO MACHINES AND THE LABOR TO REPAIR THE MACHINES AND COVERED UNDER THE ARC INTER
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BOARD CONTRACT 622.0. HOWEVER THE REPAIR PARTS ARE OPEN MARKET ITEMS. I WENT TO THE BACK UP HERE TRIED TO FIND SOME INFORMATION ABOUT WHAT THEY DID TO THESE OPINIONS -- THESE MACHINES. NOW, THEY GIVE US ONE ITEM OUT OF WARRANTY AND QUANTITY 13 I ASSUME.I THINK THAT'S 13 HOURS AND THE UNIT PRICE IS $225 FOR A TOTAL OF 2925. AND THEN IT SAYS UNDER DETAILS OF WORK COMPLETED ALL IT SAYS IS LABOR, 14 HOURS ESTIMATE.
UNDER THE DESCRIPTION OF THE MACHINES IT GIVES SERIAL NUMBERS. ALL RIGHT.
YOU CAN SKIP DOWN AND IT SAYS QUANTITY 13 THE UNIT PRICE IS $23 *UZ -- $23 *UZ AND DETAILS OF WORK COMPLETED.
AND THEN IT SAYS PARTS ESTIMATE. THAT'S NOT A STATEMENT OF REPAIRS MADE AND PARTS PURCHASED.
I'M SORRY. THAT'S UNACCEPTABLE AGAIN.
I'M NOT GONNA PICK ON HART INTERCIVIC.
I TRY NOT TO PICK ON ANYBODY. SOME PEOPLE SAY THAT I DO.
SOMETIMES PEOPLE WILL FLIP THE ENTIRE MAKE UP OF COMMISSIONER'S COURT WITH THEIR VOTE. BUT ANYWAY, THAT'S ANOTHER
STORY. >> THAT'S WHY I WAS GOING TO PULL YOU BACK INTO YOUR AGENDA ITEM.
>> I APPRECIATE THAT. WHAT I WANT TO KNOW IS WHO DID -- WHAT DID THEY DO AND WHAT PARTS DID THEY USE? THIS CAN'T BE ACCEPTABLE TO YOU ALL.
YOU CAN'T VOTE YES TO THIS UNLESS -- UNTIL YOU CAN FIND OUT WHAT THEY DID AND WHAT PARTS THEY USED BECAUSE THEY ARE CHARGING US OVER $5,000. SO Y'ALL JUST NEED TO TABLE THIS ONE UNTIL YOU CAN GET MORE INFORMATION.
I APPRECIATE IT AND THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
>> CAN ANYBODY CONTRIBUTE TO THAT QUESTION?
>> I AM NOT FAMILIAR WITH THE REPAIRS.
>> THIS IS A QUOTE SO IT IS UH -- APPROVING THE PURCHASE ORDER THAT WE ACTUALLY ISSUED A PURCHASE ORDER SO THE REPAIRS HAVE NOT BEEN COMPLETED YET. AS FAR AS THE ITEMS -- I DON'T KNOW SPECIFICALLY WHAT THEY ARE GOING TO DO TO THEM.
I DON'T KNOW IF JEFF IS MORE FAMILIAR WITH THE MACHINES OR IF ANYBODY SPOKE TO HIM WHAT THE ISSUE WAS WITH THESE SPECIFIC MACHINES. THEY REACHED OUT TO THE VENDOR AND OBTAINED THE QUOTE TO REPAIR THE MACHINES AND HAD TO BRING IT TO COMMISSIONER'S COURT AND COMMISSIONER COURT APPROVAL.
>> MARISOL COVERED WHAT I WAS GOING TO SAY.
IF YOU READ THE DOCUMENTATION IT IS THE ESTIMATE ON WHAT IT WOULD BE JUST LIKE YOU WOULD GET AN ESTIMATE ON ANYTHING ELSE BEFORE THE REPAIR. HOPEFULLY AT THE END OF THE PROCESS IT WON'T BE THE TOTAL -- IT WON'T BE -- WE WON'T BE INVOICED FOR THE TOTAL AMOUNT THAT IS BEING OFFERED HERE.
IT JUST DEPENDS ON WHENEVER THEY GET INTO THE MACHINES AND WHAT PARTS ARE NEEDED AND THOSE KIND OF THINGS.
PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. >> COMMISSIONER SMITH?
>> YES. >> COMMISSIONER SHELL?
>> YES. >> COMMISSIONER COHEN.
>> YES. >> COMMISSIONER INGALSBE.
>> YES. >> JUDGE, CAN WE TAKE A RECESS?
>> SURE. WE WILL TAKE A 10-MINUTE RECESS.
>> YOU HAVE YOUR BUZZER. STATE YOUR ANSWER IN THE FORM OF A QUESTION. WE ARE BACK FROM OUR RECESS.
WHEN I SUBMITTED AGENDA ITEM 31 IT WAS A LONGTIME AGO AND MUCH HAS EVOLVED SINCE THEN. I KNOW YOU ARE NOT READY FOR THIS AND ANY STRETCH OF THE IMAGINATION.
PLEASE OPEN 31 AND 32. >> G30, AUTHORIZATION THE SUBMISSION OF A RENEWAL GRANT APPLICATION TO THE DSHS FY24 INFECTION DISEASE CONTROL UNIT/SURVEILLANCE IN THE EPIDEMIOLOGY GRANT PROGRAM IN THE AMOUNT OF $165,000.
G32, AUTHORIZE THE COUNTY JUDGE TO EXECUTE A CONTRACT AMENDMENT WITH JM ENGINEERING LLC RELATED TO HVAC MAINTENANCE AND REPAIR
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SERVICES COUNTY WIDE PURSUANT TO RFP2020-P01 INCREASING OUR OVERALL CONTRACT TO $164,770.84, A 6% INCREASE.>> WE HAVE ONE INDIVIDUAL SIGNED UP TO SPEAK.
MR. DAN LYON ON G32. >> THANK YOU, JUDGE.
SARA, ONCE AGAIN I WANT TO READ THE SUMMARY.
ON AUGUST 25TH, 2020 THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT APPROVED CONTRACT WITH GM ENGINEERING -- JM ENGINEERING LLC.
LET ME LOOK AT MY NOTES. HVAC AND HEATING, VENTILATION AND AIR CONDITION -- AIR CONDITIONING.
RELATED TO MAINTENANCE AND REPAIR SERVICES COUNTY WIDE.
LET ME GO BACK. MAINTENANCE AND REPAIRS IS FOR MALL SOLICITATION OF RFP2020-PO1 AND THAT IS A REQUEST FOR PROPOSAL, I BELIEVE. JM ENGINEERING LLC ALONG WITH HAYS COUNTY-WIDE DEPARTMENTS HAVE IDENTIFIED EIGHT EXHAUST FANS AT THE LOCAL HEALTH DEPARTMENT BUILDING THAT ARE IN NEED OF BI-ANNUAL MAINTENANCE SERVICES.
THE EXECUTION OF CONTRACT AMENDMENT 2 WOULD ADD A SPRING AND FALL PREVENTATIVE MAINTENANCE TO THE EIGHT EXHAUST FANS AND ADDING $3152 ANNUALLY TO THE LOCAL HEALTH DEPARTMENT'S CURRENT PREVENTATIVE MAINTENANCE SCHEDULE AS WELL AS INCREASE THE YEARLY CONTRACT TOTAL TO $164, 770.84, A 2% PRICE INCREASE. MY QUESTION IS WHAT IS INVOLVED WITH THE -- WITH DOING PM ON EXHAUST FANS.
IT HAS BEEN MY EXPERIENCE WITH EXHAUST FAN THAT'S THEY WORK OR THEY DON'T AND THEN YOU TRACE DOWN THE REASONS THEY WORK, THE POWER SUPPLY AND SOMETHING BINDING.
YOU KNOW, ARE THEY SO DIRTY THAT THEY CAN'T TURN.
WHAT DO YOU DO? DO YOU GO IN THERE WITH COMPRESSED AIR AND YOU BLOWOUT THE FANS AND MAKE SURE THAT THEY ARE ALL CLEAN AND THEY WON'T COME UP AND STOMP ON IT.
I'M SORRY. THERE IS NOT ENOUGH INFORMATION.
ONCE AGAIN, NOT ENOUGH INFORMATION ON WHY THEY NEED AN ADDITIONAL $197 A YEAR JUST TO -- PER FAN TO EXAMINE EIGHT EXHAUST FANS. I TKPOPT THINK -- I DON'T THINK ANYONE HAS FOLLOWED UP ON THIS STUFF.
AND I AM NOT SAYING THEY ARE DOING ANYTHING WRONG HERE.
BUT THEY ARE JUST NOT GIVING US THE INFORMATION WE NEED.
WE CAN'T VOTE ON THIS UNTIL WE GET THE INFORMATION ABOUT WHAT THE ANNUAL -- THE SEMI-ANNUAL CHECK ON THE EXHAUST FANS INVOLVED. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
>> IS THERE ANYONE HERE FROM COUNTY WIDE OPERATION THAT'S CAN SPEAK ON THESE QUESTIONS? I DIDN'T SEE ANYONE, BUT I WANT TO SPHAEUBG SURE. MAKE SURE.
VICKY, MARISOL, ARE YOU ABLE TO CONTRIBUTE TO THIS IN ANYWAY?
>> JUST WHAT THE ITEM SAYS. THERE WAS A NEED FROM COUNTY-WIDE MAINTENANCE THAT THESE 8HVACS NEEDED TO HAVE ANNUAL MAINTENANCE OR TWICE A YEAR AND THAT'S WHAT WE ARE DOING. IT IS PREVENTING USE WHERE THEY WILL GO IN AND -- SPECIFICALLY WHAT THEY DO FOR MAINTENANCE, I
WAS PRESIDENT THERE. >> COMMISSIONER?
>> ONE OF THE THINGS THAT YOU, JUDGE, AND I WORKED ON WAS THE HVAC CONTRACT. I DON'T KNOW HOW LONG IT TOOK FOR IT TO GO OUT TO OPEN BID, BUT THAT WAS ONE THING YOU WERE ADAMANT ABOUT AND I WAS AS WELL. AND SO I KNOW THE DIFFERENT FUNCTIONS UNDER THE CONTRACT ARE SPECIFICALLY OUTLINED AND THEY HAVE TO ADHERE TO THE CONTRACT. IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING AND MARISOL AND VICKY, PLEASE CORRECT ME IF YOU -- IF I AM WRONG, BUT IT WAS SET ON THE UNITS THAT WE HAD OR THE UNITS THAT WE PUT INTO THAT RFP. THIS IS ADDING ADDITIONAL UNITS.
THE LINE ITEMS FOR THAT WORK AND LABOR ARE INCLUDED FOR ALL OF THE OTHER BUILDINGS. THIS JUST MATCHES WHAT HAS BEEN AGREED TO IN THAT CONTRACT. IS THAT CORRECT?
THANK YOU. >> I HOPE THAT HELPS, MR. LYON.
>> [INAUDIBLE]. >> IT IS PART OF THE ORIGINAL
CONTRACT. >> ACTUALLY, MR. LYONS, YOU SPOKE ON THAT AND IT WAS PROVIDED IN THE BACK UP WHEN YOU SPOKE. I'M SURE THAT WE CAN FIND THAT
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IN A PREVIOUS -- IN A PREVIOUS AGENDA ITEM.I WOULD BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO BRING THAT BACK TO THE NEXT COURT SESSION AND GIVE YOU A COPY OF IT.
>> BEAUTIFUL. COMMISSIONER SHELL?
>> DIRECT OUR STAFF -- [INAUDIBLE] SOON FOR THAT.
AND MAYBE THEY CAN TAKE A LITTLE OF WHAT THAT HAS TO BE DONE FOR THAT IN MAINTENANCE AND IF THAT IS SOMETHING THEY CAN DO THEMSELVES, MAYBE NOT [INAUDIBLE].
ABSOLUTELY RIGHT. IF THERE IS AN INTERNAL COMPONENT POSSIBILITY FOR US TO MANAGE, COMPLETELY SUPPORTING THAT IDEA. PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.
>> COMMISSIONER SHELL? >> YES.
>> COMMISSIONER SMITH? >> YES.
>> COMMISSIONER COHEN? >> YES.
>> COMMISSIONER INGALSBE? >> YES.
>> NUMBER 33 PLEASE. >> AUTHORIZE PAYMENT TO CHUCK NASH AUTO GROUP FOR VEHICLE REPAIR REPLACE LIFTERS MANIFOLD AND GASKETS, PLUS LABOR TO A 2015 CHEVROLET TAHOE IN THE AMOUNT OF $6,075.51 FOR HAYS COUNTY IN WHICH A PURCHASE ORDER
WAS NOT OBTAINED. >> SO MOVED.
>> SECOND. >> AND WE HAVE ONE INDIVIDUAL SIGNED UP TO SPEAK, MR. DAN LYON.
>> SARA I LOOKED UP THE BACK UP ON THIS AND I CAN'T FIND ANYWHERE IT SAYS HOW MANY MILES THIS THING HAS ON IT.
ALL RIGHT. IT DOES HAVE -- RIGHT HERE.
IT SAYS MILES IN 116,967 MILES AND OUT 1 GASH -- LET'S SEE.
117, 024 OUT. SO MY QUESTION IS, IS THIS NORMAL ROUTINE MAINTENANCE? THE FIRST RULE OF AUTO MECHANICS IS IF IT WORKS, DON'T FIX IT. IF IT'S WORKING, YOU DON'T TAKE THINGS APART JUST TO MESS WITH THEM AND MAYBE PUT BRAND-NEW PARTS IN THERE, ESPECIALLY WHEN THIS THING HAS OVER A HUNDRED THOUSAND MILES ON IT. WHY WOULD YOU PUT THAT KIND OF MONEY INTO A TRUCK THAT HAS OVER A HUNDRED THOUSAND MILES? IT DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE. THEY NOT ONLY REPLACED -- I SEE DOWN HERE THAT THERE IS A CHARGE FOR A MANIFOLD, A NEW MANIFOLD, $839.22. MANIFOLDS -- AND I ASSUME THIS IS INTAKE MANIFOLD. I DON'T THINK IT IS THE EXHAUST MANIFOLD. IT DOESN'T SEEM TO MAKE SENSE BECAUSE YOU WOULD HAVE TO PULL THE INTAKE MANIFOLD TO GET TO THE LIFTER. IT MAKES NO SENSE TO REPLACE AN INTAKE MANIFOLD UNLESS IT IS CRACKED OR SOMETHING WRONG WITH IT. IT DOESN'T SAY THAT HERE.
THIS WAS -- THIS LOOKS TO ME LIKE SOMEBODY'S PROJECT AND WE ARE FOOTING THE BILL FOR IT. THIS IS A 6, 7, GOING ON 8-YEAR VEHICLE WITH 700,000 MILES ON IT MAKES NO SENSE WHATSOEVER.
WHY THEY DID THIS, THEY NEED TO EXPLAIN.
WAS SOMETHING WRONG? DID ONE OF THE LIFTERS GO OUT? IN THAT CASE I CAN SEE THEM MAYBE -- MAYBE DOING THE WORK.
I CAN'T SEE THEM OR REPLACE THEG THE INTAKE MANIFOLD.
THE ONLY COMPANY THAT IS DUMB ENOUGH TO PUT A STARTER UNDER AN INTAKE MANIFOLD IS BMW, BUT THAT'S ANOTHER STORY ENTIRELY.
MY THOUGHT ALSO IS THAT IF THIS IS WHAT YOU HAVE TO DO TO THESE VEHICLES, MAYBE WE SHOULD SHOP AROUND NEXT TIME AND GET VEHICLES YOU DON'T HAVE TO DO THIS TO.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> THANK YOU.
>> ACTUALLY I WOULD AGREE WITH MR. LYONS ON A NUMBER OF POINTS HE MADE, SPECIFICALLY ON THE MILEAGE ON THE VEHICLE.
THE FACT IS THAT WITH OUR FLEET VEHICLES, ESPECIALLY OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT VEHICLES, AND VICKY YOU MAY BE ABLE TO TELL ME, HOW LONG HAVE WE BEEN IN THE ENTERPRISE PROGRAM NOW?
>> YES. BUT WE RECEIVE -- EXPERIENCED QUITE A DELAY IN RECEIVING REPLACEMENT VEHICLES SO WE HAVE SEEN ADDITIONAL REPAIR COSTS TO THE OLD VEHICLES BECAUSE OF THAT. WE ARE CURRENTLY WAITING ON VEHICLE THAT'S WE ORDERED FROM OCTOBER OF 2021, AND ADDITIONALLY THE VEHICLE THAT'S WERE RECENTLY APPROVED IN THIS BUDGET THAT WERE ORDERED -- THE COURT-APPROVED PRE-ORDER IN AUGUST, THOSE VEHICLE THAT'S WERE BUDGETED IN OCTOBER SO WE COULD GET A HEAD START ON THEM, BUT WE CONTINUE TO SEE DELAYS ON
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ALL OF THEM, THE LEASED VEHICLES.>> THAT WAS THE POINT I WAS GOING TO MAKE.
EVENTUALLY I HOPE ALL OF OUR VEHICLES ARE IN THE ENTERPRISE PROGRAM BECAUSE TO MR. LYON'S POINT, AT A CERTAIN POINT THESE VEHICLES START LOSING VALUE TO THE POINT WHERE IT COSTS MORE TO REPAIR THEM THAN THEIR VALUE ON TRADE IN.
AND ONCE THOSE VEHICLES ARE ACTUALLY IN THE ENTERPRISE PROGRAM THEY ARE EVALUATED ON AN ANNUAL LIESED BASIS.
WE CAN LOOK AT THEM AND SAY, OAY, THIS ONE IS FIVE YEARS OLD IF WE KEEP IT ANOTHER YEAR WITH THE MILEAGE IT IS GETTING, IT IS GOING TO FLIP OVER THAT THRESHOLD.
WE NEED TO GET RID OF IT THIS YEAR AND REPLACE IT.
UNFORTUNATELY DUE TO BUDGET CONSTRAINTS WE HAVEN'T DONE THAT. LAST YEAR WAS THE FIRST TIME WE FULLY PARTICIPATED AS WE COULD IN THE ENTERPRISE PROGRAM.
THESE VEHICLES, ESPECIALLY ON A CONSTABLE, THEY DON'T HAVE EXTRA VEHICLES JUST SITTING AROUND. THEY MAY HAVE ONE ADDITIONAL VEHICLE IN THEIR FLEET. I KNOW IN PRE -- IN PRECINCT 4 THERE IS ONE ADDITIONAL VEHICLE AND I COULDN'T TELL YOU HOW OLD IT IS. IT IS MORE OR LESS A DETERRENT VEHICLE THAT THEY CAN PARK SOMEWHERE BECAUSE IT IS NOT IN THE PHYSICAL SHAPE TO USE FOR DAY-TO-DAY SERVICE.
AND SO WE ARE GONNA HAVE TO -- WE HAVE RUN INTO A SITUATION WHERE WE HAVE TO SPEND MORE TO KEEP THESE VEHICLES ON THE ROAD WHILE WE WAIT FOR THE NEW VEHICLES OR REPLACE MEANT
VEHICLE. >> LET'S CALL THE ROLL.
>> COMMISSIONER INGALSBE. >> YES.
>> COMMISSIONER COHEN. >> YES.
>> COMMISSIONER SHELL. >> YES.
>> COMMISSIONER SMITH. >> YES.
>> AND SO NOW THAT I SEE THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE HERE WE WILL GO 34 THROUGH 37 AND THEN BACK TO G13.
>> OKAY. G34, AUTHORIZE THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE TO TRANSFER TWO NON-LAW ENFORCEMENT VEHICLES, WHITE FLEET, TO THE PRE-TRIAL SERVICES DEPARTMENT EFFECTIVE IMMEDIATELY. G35, AUTHORIZE ADDITIONAL FUNDING FOR THE JUSTICE OF THE PEACE PRECINCT 5 FOR CONTINUING EDUCATION TRAINING AND AMEND THE BUDGET ACCORDINGLY.
G36, APPROVE THE APPOINTMENT OF SHARRI BOYETT TO THE ANIMAL ADVISORY COMMITTEE. G37 AUTHORIZE THE COUNTY JUDGE TO EXECUTE A FIRST AMENDED AND RESTATED PROFESSIONAL SERVICES AGREEMENT WITH DR. STEVEN LOGSDON RELATED TO PRE-EMPLOYMENT PSYCHOLOGICAL EVALUATIONS AND FIT-FOR-DUTY EVALUATIONS FOR PROSPECTIVE AND CURRENT EMPLOYEES OF THE HAYS COUNTY SHERIFF SHERIFF'S OFFICE -- COUNTY SHERIFF'S
OFFICE. >> NUMBER 34, COMMISSIONER SHELL, DO WE HAVE ANY IDEA WHAT CARS WILL BE TRANSFER STPHED I -- TRANSFERRED? I KNOW IT SAYS WHITE FLEET.
>> I BELIEVE THEY ARE THE CHARGERS.
>> I WAS ABOUT TO GO THERE. I AM HOPING TO GET PERSPECTIVE
ON CONDITION. >> 2010 IS THE NEWEST ONE.
[INAUDIBLE]. 2008 OR MAYBE EVEN 200 SEVER.
>> WHAT -- 2007. >> I AM HOPING NOT TO SEE THE CARS TRANSFERRED AND THEN WE SEE A BILL THAT IS RIDICULOUS WHEN WE COULD TRY TO FIND SOMETHING DIFFERENT.
IF THESE CARS NEED TO BE YANKED FROM OUR FLEET, LET'S YANK THEM.
I APPRECIATE THE SUPPORT OF THAT DEPARTMENT, COMMISSIONER SHELL.
I REALLY DO, WHOLEHEARTEDLY. WE ARE ALL BEHIND IT AND WE WANT IT TO MOVE IN A USEFUL MANNER. I SUPPORT GETTING THEM VEHICLES.
I JUST DON'T WANT TO GIVE THEM VEHICLE THAT WILL BE BACK IN COURT WITH ANOTHER $6,000 ENGINE REPAIR.
I REALLY DON'T WANT TO US GO DOWN THAT PATH.
SINCE IT IS NOT -- OBVIOUSLY WE AGREE IT IS NOT A CRITICAL FIRST RESPONDER-TYPE NEED, MAYBE WE CAN GET THEM A LOWER DOLLAR, LOWER GRADE NEWER AVAILABLE WHITE FLEET VEHICLE, LIKE I DON'T KNOW, AN ESCORT OR A TAURUS OR SOMETHING DIFFERENT INSTEAD OF THIS VERY OLD CAR THAT WE'VE ALL ACKNOWLEDGED THAT IS PROBABLY NOT A GOOD IDEA TO START USING.
>> [INAUDIBLE] OPERATING SAFELY. I THINK IT IS A GOOD USE OF SOMETHING IN THE EVENT THERE NEEDS TO BE REPAIRS MADE TO GET TO THAT POINT WE ARE SPENDING MORE THAN THE VEHICLE IS WORTH.
I WOULD DEFINITELY ASK THEM TO FORE GO THOSE REPAIRS AND FIND [INAUDIBLE] IN THE INTERIM UNTIL WE GET THEM A NEW ONE.
AS VICKY MENTIONED GETTING NEW VEHICLES RIGHT NOW IS A CHALLENGE [INAUDIBLE] SO I WOULD LIKE TO GIVE THEM TO GET STARTED WITH, BUT WE WILL PAY ATTENTION AND NOT DO REPAIR THAT'S ARE --
>> THANK YOU. SO THE RECAP IS, TRANSFERRING THESE CARS. IF ANYTHING NEEDS TO BE DONE TO THEM, PLEASE MAKE SURE YOU INCLUDE THE COURT.
WE DON'T WANT ANOTHER CHEVY TAHOE SCENARIO BEFORE US.
AND THE ONES THAT ARE BACKLOGGED THROUGH THE ENTERPRISE CONTRACT
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OR MORE OF THE PATROL FLEET, BECAUSE I CAN GO UP AND DOWN 35 AND SEE THE PH-LGS OF VEHICLES -- THE MILLIONS OF VEHICLES OUT THERE WE CAN OBVIOUSLY BUY.I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE ARE ALL AGREEING, BUT DON'T GO DOWN THE
CHEVY TAHOE PATH AGAIN. >> THE OTHER THING TO CONSIDER HERE IS THAT THIS PROGRAM IS FUNDED UNDER THE ARPA FUNDS AND WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY FUNDS BUDGETED FOR VEHICLE REPAIRS OR VEHICLE LEASE. IN THE INTERIM JUST TO GET SOME AVAILABILITY FOR THEM TO HAVE THE ABILITY TO GO BETWEEN THE GOVERNMENT CENTER AND THE JUDGES VISITING THERE AND OUT TO THE JAIL, JUST TO GIVE HIM THAT SET OF WHEELS HE NEEDS.
>> YOU BET. TOTALLY SUPPORT IT.
COMMISSIONER SMITH? >> JUDGE, JUST ON -- I WOULD JUST REITERATE I AM SUPPORTIVE, AND AT THE END OF THE DAY I HOPE IN THE UPCOMING BUDGET PSYCH -- CYCLE THEY REQUEST A VEHICLE TO REPLACE THIS VEHICLE. WE CAN ADDRESS YOUR CONCERNS.
ON ITEM 35 I WANT TO THANK JUDGE BRYANT.
SHE REACHED OUT TO PHAOEUGS AND COMMISSIONER COMMISSIONER CO -- TO MYSELF AND COMMISSIONER COHEN AND I HAD QUESTIONS ON HOW IT WOULD BE USED AND WANTED TO MAKE SURE IT WAS SUBMITTED THE RIGHT WAY AND SHE WENT ABOVE AND BEYOND TO DO THAT.
I WANT TO THANK HER FOR THAT BECAUSE I THINK THIS IS HER FIRST SUBMISSION TO THE COURT IN THE FORM OF A REQUEST.
I APPRECIATE HER THOROUGHNESS ON DOING THIS.
I KNOW WE HAVE A NUMBER OF NEWLY-ELECTED OFFICIALS THAT TRAINING AND I'M ALWAYS GOING TO BE SUPPORTIVE OF THAT. THANK YOU, JUDGE.
>> I THANK SHARRI BOYETT FOR HER TIRELESS, TIRELESS EFFORTS ON ALL THINGS PETS, CATS AND DOGS. ALL OF THESE BEATING HEARTS ARE CRITICAL IN OUR COMMUNITY AND SHE DOES SUCH A GREAT JOB.
AND SHE'S TIRELESSLY THE SPEAR HEAD, THE CHAMPION, WITH ALL OF THE ORGANIZATIONS SHE IS WORKING WITH.
I THANK HER FOR THE CONTINUING TO WORK WITH THIS IN THE
>> IF NOTHING ELSE PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.
>> COMMISSIONER COHEN. >> YES.
>> COMMISSIONER SHELL. >> YES.
>> KPHEUGTS -- COMMISSIONER INNING TKPWELGS BE.
>> YES. >> COMMISSIONER SMITH.
NOW GO BACK TO G13. >> G13 AUTHORIZE THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE TO USE EXISTING FUNDS TO PURCHASE THREE DRONES VALUED AT
SECOND. >> THE QUESTION BEFORE YOU ARRIVED WERE REVOLVING AROUND NUMBER OF DRONES, PERCENTAGE OF USE AND BASICALLY WONDERING WHAT DO WE HAVE AND HOW OFTEN ARE THEY BEING USED AND IS THIS THE HIGHEST AND BEST USE OF TAXPAYER DOLLARS. WHILE ADDRESSING IT, KNOW YOU HAVE A FULLY SUPPORTIVE COURT, BUT WE HAVE TO ASK THEY
QUESTIONS. >> WITH THE LAW ENFORCEMENT BUREAU AND I WOULD LIKE TO START BY SAYING THIS IS MONEY THAT WAS BUDGETED FOR DRONES. WE WERE WANTING TO SWITCH FROM BUYING ONE LARGE DRONE TO THREE SMALLER DRONES SO WE CAN HAVE AT LEAST A DRONE ON EVERY SHIFT THAT WILL FIT IN THE CAR AND WE CANDY PLOY IT -- CAN DEPLOY IT IN MINUTES INSTEAD OF HOURS WAITING FOR THE DIG DRONES. THE BACKGROUND WAS NOT WORDED THE BEST. THESE ARE -- THE COST OF THE ONE DRONE IS THE MORE THAN THE COST OF THE THREE WE ARE ASKING FOR.
IT IS MONEY ALREADY BUDGET FOR. IT IS NOT NEW MONEY WE ARE ASKING FOR. WE HAVE 12 DRONES RIGHT NOW.
THERE IS DIFFERENT DRONES FOR DIFFERENT PURPOSES.
WE USE THE LARGER DRONES FOR LONGER FLIGHTS AND THERMAL IMAGING. THEY ARE HEAVY AND TAKE BIGGER DRONES. TWO OF THE DRONES ARE AT THE END OF THEIR LIFE. WE PURCHASED THOSE IN 2017.
WE HAVE THREE MINIATURE DRONES FOR INTERIOR SEARCHES FORBEAR RAW CADES AND THINGS LIKE THAT. WE HAVE TWO FOR ADVANCED THERMAL AND INTERIOR SEARCHES. WE HAVE TWO PHAF VIC PROS DASH DARR MAVERICK PROS AND THEY ARE REPLACED BY THE EXTERIOR DAYLIGHT DRONES. THE THREE WE ARE ASKING FOR ARE EXTERIOR DRONES WITH THE SAME TECHNOLOGY AS THE BIGGER 1S THEY WILL FIT IN THE PATROL CARS. IT WILL ALLOW US TO SET UPRIGHT THEN AND THERE WHEN THERE IS A MISSING PERSON OR FLEEING SUSPECT, WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE RATHER THAN WAITING AN HOUR
FOR THE DRONE TEAM. >> SO WITH 12 DRONES CURRENTLY, YOU HAVE TO WAIT AN HOUR FOR ONE OF THOSE TO BE DEPLOYED FOR A
SCENE? >> AGAIN, THEY ALL HAVE DIFFERENT PURPOSES AND DIFFERENT REASONS, BUT THE DRONES CAPABLE OF SEARCHING FOR PEOPLE IN THE WOODS AND IN THE DARK ET CETERA,
WE HAVE TO WAIT AN HOUR. >> AND WITH THE SMALLER DRONES, DO THEY REQUIRE FLIGHT LOGS AS WELL?
>> EVERYTHING WE DO IS A FLIGHT LOG THANK YOU FOR STATING IT
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THAT IT WAS PRE-BUDGETED. WE KNOW THAT.BUT IT IS STILL A QUESTION THAT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED REGARDLESS IF IT WAS PRE OR NOW BUDGETING. IT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED TO ADDRESS THE QUESTIONS WE ARE BEING ASKED.
SO THE OTHER QUESTION SURVEILLING FOR INTELLIGENCE AND TO ORGANIZATIONS, I DON'T KNOW, THE EXAMPLE WAS USED OF TERRORIST ORGANIZATIONS AND MLK'S HOW THE FBI LABELED IT AND HOW YOU ARE POTENTIALLY GOING TO USE DRONES TO FLY OVER GROUPS THAT YOU'VE DONE IN THE RECENT PAST I WAS TOLD.
>> I I DON'T UNDERSTAND YOUR QESTION.
>> SO THERE WAS -- AT THE S -- THE PSB THERE WAS A PUBLIC SAFETY BUILDING THERE WAS A GROUP MEETING AND APPARENTLY WE USED SOME OF OUR DRONES TO FLY OVER THEM FOR INTELLIGENCE GATHERING. AND SO I HAVE TO ADDRESS THE QUESTION I AM BEING ASKED OF WOULD THESE DRONES BE USE NETTED
OF WAY. >> I DON'T THINK WE USED DRONES FOR INTELLIGENCE GATHERING IN GROUPS AS FAR AS I KNOW.
I AM OVER THE BUREAU THAT HAS THE DRONE PROGRAM IN IT, BUT WE DO USE THEM FOR LARGE-SCALE EVENTS TO MAKE SURE PEOPLE ARE SAFE AND WE CAN BEST OUT SOURCE RESOURCES TO THE EVENT.
AGAIN, I HAVE YET TO USE THEM OR SEE THEM USED TO GATHER INTELLIGENCE OR IF THEY ARE NOT AFFILIATED WITH THE FBI.
I THINK I HEARD THAT EARLIER. >> RIGHT.
I KNOW YOU ARE NOT AFFILIATED, BUT IT WAS USED AS AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT WAS BEING DONE TO MLK. AND SO IT IS MY JOB TO ADDRESS THE QUESTIONS ASKED OF ME. COMMISSIONER, ANY QUESTIONS?
>> I DON'T -- I MEAN, THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE AND EXPLAINING.
I GUESS I'M STILL JUST NOT QUIT, JUDGE, THE MLK, WAS THAT ANY VENT THAT HAPPENED HERE -- THAT AN EVENT THAT HAPPENED HERE?
I JUST NEED CLARIFICATION. >> THE REFERENCE, THE EXAMPLE USED IN THIS AGENDA ITEM FOR ME TO ASK QUESTIONS ABOUT FOR CLARIFICATIONS, AGAIN, YOU HAVE A SUPPORTIVE COURT, BUT WE HAVE TO ANSWER THESE QUESTIONS IS HOW I SEE IT.
BACK WHEN MLK WAS ALIVE AND HE WAS BEING ACTIVE IN THE COMMUNITIES THAT THE FBI WAS DOING SURVEILLANCE AND INFILTRATING AND ALL OF THESE DIFFERENT THINGS IN THAT SPACE.
IT WAS USED AS AN EXAMPLE WITH THE DRONE -- APPARENTLY.
I WASN'T THERE. APPARENTLY A DRONE FROM THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE WAS USED TO FLY OVER A PRESENTATION IN FRONT OF THE PUBLIC SAFETY BUILDING WHEN THEY WERE STANDING OUT THERE.
I DON'T REMEMBER THE REASON THEY WERE STANDING OUT THERE.
THE CONCERN WAS THESE WOULD BE USED TO, I DON'T KNOW, LEAN IN ON ORGANIZATIONS, I DON'T KNOW FOR INTIMIDATION OR INTELLIGENCE GATHERING OR ALL OF THE ABOVE OR MORE OF SOMETHING ELSE I DIDN'T MENTION. SO MY QUESTION IS TO ASK ABOUT THE USE OF THESE DRONES IN THAT SPACE IF THAT IS SOMETHING THAT
IS PLANNED ON OR NOT. >> THANK YOU.
I DIDN'T REALIZE WE WERE TALK -- TALKING --
>> ANYTHING ELSE? >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR
COMMENTS? >> MY ONLY CONCERN WAS WHAT THEY WERE USED FOR AND YOU EXPLAINED THAT.
I'M CLEAR ON THAT AS WELL. I'M GOOD.
>> COMMISSIONERS? >> I WOULD ENCOURAGE ANYBODY THAT HAS QUESTIONS ABOUT OUR DRONE PROGRAM, I KNOW Y'ALL HAVE DONE EDUCATION AND OUT REACH IN THE PAST WITH THE DRONES AND FOR OUR EMPLOYEES INTERNATIONALLY AND FOR THE GENERAL PUBLIC EXPLAINING HOW THEY ARE USED AND WHAT THEY ARE USED FOR AND LETTING THEM SEE THE EQUIPMENT AND RECOGNIZING IT, I THINK -- AND I DON'T KNOW THIS AT ALL, BUT I HAVE GOTTEN CALLS IN DRIPPING SPRINGS, WHAT IS THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT LOOKING FOR? WHY DO THEY HAVE A DRONE? BUT COMES TO FIND OUT THERE IS NO SHERIFF DEPARTMENT DRONE WITHIN 15 MILES WHERE WE ARE AT. IT IS SOMEBODY WITH A PRIVATE DRONE FLYING OVER. I THINK THERE IS A LEVEL OF DISCOMFORT WITH IT, AND I AM ONE OF THEM.
WE HAD CONSTITUENT CONCERNS ON THEIR PRIVACY.
WE ADDRESSED IT IN COURT A COUPLE YEARS AGO AND WE DID A LOT OF RESEARCH ON THE PRIVACY MECHANISMS RELATED TO DRONES.
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IT IS NOT THE STATUTE THAT OTHER STATES HAVE.SO WE HAVE PRIVATE CITIZEN THAT'S CAN FLY UP TO YOUR WINDOW AND LOOK IN YOUR HOUSE. MATTER OF FACT, ABOUT A YEAR AGO I CALLED THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT BECAUSE I FOUND THE CAMERA FACING MY BACKDOOR AND WHENEVER THEY CAME OUT AND PICKED IT UP IT WAS OFF OF A DRONE THAT HAD LOST IS IT.
IT FELL ON THE ROOF AND WASHED OUT AND WAS IN MY BACKYARD.
SOMEBODY WAS THERE. I AM NOT A CONSPIRACY THEORIST, BT THEY ARE EVERYWHERE. I DO KNOW Y'ALL HAVE DONE A GREAT AMOUNT OF OUT REACH AND I'M SURE YOU CAN DO ANY OF THAT AGAIN. IF ANY OUTSIDE ORGANIZATIONS OR INDIVIDUALS WANT TO LEARN SPECIFICALLY ABOUT WHAT Y'ALL DO AND MORE IMPORTANTLY Y'ALL'S TERMS OF USAGE, BECAUSE I KNOW Y'ALL HAVE VERY CLEAR TERMS OF USAGE FOR THOSE DRONES, I THINK THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL AND IT MAY CLARIFY SOME OF THE QUESTIONS
THE GENERAL PUBLIC HAS. >> ABSOLUTELY.
AND WILL THESE NEWER, SMALLER DRONES ALREADY BUDGET -- BUDGETED FOR BE THE ROAD MAP FOR A LESS -- IT IS A HEAVY CAMERA THAT NEEDS TO BE CARRIED AND WILL THESE BE THE REPLACEMENT ROAD MAPS FOR THE BIGGER, OLDER ONES?
>> I THINK WE WILL STILL NEED LARGER ONES.
IT IS JUST STRICTLY FOR PLAY TIME AND RANGE CAPABILITIES.
BUTNESS -- BUT THESE WILL BE THE ROAD MAP MOVING FORWARD FOR THE
INCONSTANT DEPLOYMENT DRONES. >> BEAUTIFUL.
THANK YOU. AND THANK YOU FOR COMING IN TO
SPEAK ON THIS. >> JUDGE, ONE LAST QUESTION.
I KNOW YOU SAID THAT THEY WOULD BE PLACED IN VEHICLES, PATROL VEHICLES THAT ARE OUT AND ABOUT AND I GUESS THAT WOULD BE IN
DIFFERENT PARTS OF THE COUNTY. >> THERE WILL BE ONE PER SHIFT.
WE HAVE 24/7 COVERAGE IMMEDIATELY AGAIN RATHER THAN
>> SO IT CAN BE PRETTY QUICK. I THINK FROM THE CENTER OF THE COUNTY WE CAN PROBABLY HAVE A DRONE SOMEWHERE UP IN THE SKY WHERE IT NEEDS TO BE IN ABOUT 18 MINUTES.
>> THAT'S GOOD TO KNOW. I WAS THINKING IF WE WERE -- IF SOMEONE WAS IN DRIPPING SPRINGS AND WE HAD AN INSURANCE -- AN
INCIDENT -- >> ARE YOU SAYING WE NEED MORE
OF THEM TO COVER THE COUNTY? >> WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE ARE -- THAT DISPURSE MEANT IS COUNTY WIDE.
>> GREAT POINT. >> IF THERE ARE NO OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS CALL THE ROLL.
>> COMMISSIONER SMITH. >> YES.
>> COMMISSIONER INGALSBE. >> YES.
>> COMMISSIONER SHELL. >> YES.
>> COMMISSIONER COHEN. >> YES.
>> RECEIVE AND RATIFY THE FINALIZED PARKS BOND AGREEMENTS, THE FUNDING COMMITMENT AGREEMENT BETWEEN HAYS COUNTY AND THE CITY OF WOOD CREEK, INTER LOCAL AGREEMENT BETWEEN HAYS COUNTY AND THE CITY OF SAN MARCOS FOR FUNDING THE PURCHASE OF EASE PHEPBTS AND RIGHT OF WAY FOR THE PURGATORY CREEK IMPROVEMENT PROJECT AND THE INTER LOCAL AGREEMENT HAYS COUNTY AND THE CITY OF BUDA, TEXAS FOR THE IMPROVEMENT OF PARK FACILITIES AT SITES OWNED BY THE CITY OF BUDA.
39, AMEND THE COUNTY'S -- COUNTY CLERK'S RECORDS MANAGEMENT FUND FOR THE ADDITIONAL CONTINUING EDUCATION FUNDS RELATED TO THE TYLER TECHNOLOGY ANNUAL CONFERENCE HELD IN MAY OF 2023.
>> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
WE HAVE SOMEONE SIGNED UP FOR 38.
IF YOU WILL PLEASE APPROACH THE PODIUM.
MR. DAN LYON. >> THANK YOU, JUDGE BACERRA.
I REREAD THIS AND IT IS A DONE DEAL.
I CAN'T SIT UP HERE AND RANT AND RAVE ABOUT HOW BIG OF A MISTAKE I THINK IT IS, WHICH I DO, BUT Y'ALL WOULD BE FULLY JUSTIFIED IN ALL FIVE VOTING FOR THIS BECAUSE IT WAS VOTER APPROVED, AND MY VERY LAST STATEMENT BEFORE I SIT DOWN IS A CUSTOMER SATES THERE IS A TIGHT NOISE FROM THE RIGHT REAL WHEEL SO YOU REPLACE THE LIFTER. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
>> THANK YOU. PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.
>> COMMISSIONER SHELL? >> YES.
>> COMMISSIONER INGALSBE? >> YES.
>> COMMISSIONER COHEN? >> YES.
>> COMMISSIONER SMITH? >> YES.
>> JUDGE, I'M SORRY. ITEM NUMBER G4, WE ARE GONNA GO AHEAD AND PULL THAT. I THINK JULIE IS GOING TO SPEAK WITH ME REGARDING THAT, AND SHE MAY HAVE ALREADY SPOKEN TO ME.
I'M NOT SURE. I DON'T RECALL THE CONVERSATION, BUT WE'LL GET SOME MORE INFORMATION AND BRING ITEM
[I1. Discussion and possible action to award contract for IFB 2023-B11 Darden Hill @ Sawyer Ranch Roundabout to Aaron Concrete Contractors, LLC in the amount of $3,587,296.50. SMITH/BORCHERDING]
THANK YOU. SO WE WILL BE COMPLETELY PULLED.PLEASE OPEN *EUBGS -- I1. >> I1 DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO AWARD CONTRACT FORKS IFB2023-B11DARDEN HILL @SAWYER
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RANCH ROUNDABOUT BY AARON CON TREAT CONTRACTORS LLC IN THE AMOUNT OF $3,58 -- OOPS, 3 MILLION 5 AE 7, 296.50.>> AND WE HAVE ONE INDIVIDUAL SIGNED UP TO SPEAK.
MR. DAN LYON. >> JUDGE BACERRA, AGAIN, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I SORT OF DID WHAT [INAUDIBLE] WHEN I LOOKED AT THIS AND I SAID THAT CAN'T BE 3 MILLION 587, 296.50. YET, IT IS.
APPARENTLY COX COMMERCIAL CONSTRUCTION PUT IN A BID OF 3, 598, 601.2. THA*SZ -- THAT'S OVER THAT.
MY QUESTION IS CAN WE AFFORD THIS ROUND ABOUT? I HAVE COMPLAINED BEFORE ABOUT A ROUNDABOUT AT 150.
I WAS THINKING MAYBE A THREE-WAY STOP WOULD BE BETTER.
THAT WAS TWO MILLION AND I THOUGHT THAT WAS INCREDIBLY OUTRAGEOUS. THIS IS OVER $3.5 MILLION.
HOW LONG DO WE DO THIS BEFORE WE SAY WE CAN'T AFFORD IT ANYMORE? I MEAN, THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH SAYING THAT.
THERE ARE ALTERNATIVE WAYS OF HANDLING THESE INTERSECTIONS.
I'LL AGREE. I PERSONALLY LIKE ROUNDABOUTS.
I LIKE THE CONTINUOUS TRAFFIC FLOW AND THE FACT THAT YOU ARE NOT WASTING GAS BY STARTING AND STOPPING, BUT, YOU KNOW, IT IS LIKE WINNING THE POLISH LOTTERY. IT IS A MILLION DOLLARS, BUT A DOLLAR A YEAR FOR A MILLION YEARS.
IT IS NOT GOING TO PAYOFF. I WOULD ASK Y'ALL TO CONSIDER VOTING THE ENTIRE PROJECT DOWN AND PLEASE DON'T BRING ANYMORE OF THESE $3.5 MILLION ROUNDABOUTS INTO COURT.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> JUDGE, I WILL STATE SOME THINGS HERE AND THEN I WILL LET -- IF JERRY WANTS TO MAKE ANY COMMENTS. THIS IS ACTUALLY A ROUNDABOUT TO THE ENTRANCE OF CYPRESS SPRINGS ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.
WE HAVE SEVERAL -- I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE EXACT COUNTS ARE, BUT WE HAVE ROUGHLY 500 CARS A DAY GOING INTO THE ENTRANCE THAT THIS ROUNDABOUT SERVES. WE WERE NOT PRIVY TO THE DECISION TO PUT A SCHOOL AT THE END OF DARDEN HILL AND SAWYER RANCH ROAD. WHERE WE HAD A T INTERSECTION WITH ONE STOP SIGN WHEN THAT SCHOOL WAS DROPPED THERE.
AS THE SCHOOL AND THE ISD BUILDS OUT THEIR SYSTEM, THIS IS AT THE ENTRANCE TO A 157-ACRE FACILITY WHERE THEY PLAN ON HAVING THREE CAMPUSES. SO THIS IS A -- YOU KNOW, OUR FOLKS LOOKED AT IT AND THIS IS REALLY THE BEST SOLUTION FOR THERE. IF YOU ARE FAMILIAR WITH THE INTERSECTION, OUR ROADWAY, SAWYER RANCH ROAD, ACTUALLY DEAD ENDS DISTRICT -- DIRECTLY INTO A HERITAGE OAK TREE.
I THINK THE ESTIMATES ARE -- IT IS SEVERAL HUNDRED YEARS OLD.
>> COMMISSIONER, YOUR TIME IS UP.
>> AND ONE OF THE CONCERNS AND THE DESIGN OF THIS SOLUTION WAS THAT THE COMMUNITY CAME TOGETHER AND APPROACHED THE COUNTY ABOUT THE ABILITY TO SAVE THAT UNIQUE, HISTORIC FEATURE THERE.
AND SO THE ROUNDABOUT ALLOWED US TO DO THAT AS WELL.
THIS CONTRACT, IF YOU REMEMBER, WAS ACTUALLY SENT OUT FORBID LAST YEAR. -- FOR BID LAST YEAR.
WE PULLED IT TO SEE IF WE COULD GET A BETTER PRICE FOR IT.
IN THE END, THE TWO BIDS THAT CAME IN IRONICALLY WERE WITHIN ABOUT $10,000 OF EACH OTHER. WHICH IS KIND OF SHOCKING.
USUALLY THAT'S NOT THE CASE. SO IF WE WANT THIS PROJECT TO MOVE FORWARD AND BE DONE DURING THE SUMMER PERIOD SO IT DOES NOT IMPACT THREE SCHOOLS, THEN WE HAVE TO GO AND MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS PROJECT RIGHT NOW. IT HAS BEEN PREPPED.
THE AREA HAS BEEN PREPPED. THE GROUND HAS BEEN CLEARED.
THE RIGHT OF WAY HAS BEEN CLEARED.
WE ARE DONE WITH THAT PORTION OF THE PROJECT.
WE ARE WAITING ON A COUPLE OF MOVEMENTS OF UTILITIES, BUT THIS WILL GET THEM ON THE ROAD TO LITERALLY BUILDING THE FACILITY THE DAY THE SCHOOL LETS OUT IN MAY.
>> OKAY. AND THESE ARE THE SPACES IN TIME THAT I BELIEVE GOVERNMENT IS USEFUL IN.
THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER. ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS,
PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. >> COMMISSIONER INGALSBE.
>> YES. >> COMMISSIONER SMITH.
>> YES. >> COMMISSIONER COHEN.
>> YES. >> COMMISSIONER SHELL.
>> YES. I'M SURE THERE WAS A TRANSPARENT PROCESS ON PICKING THE CONTRACTOR, RIGHT?
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>> YES. I WAS NOT INVOLVED IN IT, BUT IT WENT THROUGH THE PROCESS THAT OUR TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT
[I2. Discussion and possible action to approve a Change Order to the Professional Services Agreement between Hays County and WSB for additional engineering and inspection services related to the FM 2770 turn lane project. INGALSBE/BORCHERDING]
USES AND IT WAS THE LOW BID. >> PLEASE OPEN I2.
>> I2, DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO APPROVE A CHANGE ORDER TO THE PROFESSIONAL SERVICES AGREEMENT BETWEEN HAYS COUNTY AND WSB FOR ADDITIONAL ENGINEERING AND INSPECTION SERVICES RELATED TO THE FM 2770 TURN LANE PROJECT.
>> JUDGE, I THINK THAT THIS WAS A MISS PRINT IN THE AGENDA.
IT IS ACTUALLY MY PRECINCT, AND I AM GONNA LET OUR DIRECTOR DISCUSS THE PROJECT TO START WITH.
>> YES. THIS IS A LEFT TURN LANE INTO 2770. [INAUDIBLE] COMMISSIONER HAD A CONTRIBUTION FROM THAT COMPANY AND TEXDOT WAS AGREEABLE TO US DOING THIS WORK ON THE STATE SYSTEM SO THE CONTRACT WENT FORWARD AND THESE ADDITIONAL CHARGES WERE BASED ON SOME ADDITIONAL WORK THAT HAD TO BE DONE FOR THIS FAIRLY SIMPLE PROJECT THAT WASN'T EXPECTED RELATED TO AN ENVIRONMENTAL LOOPHOLE THROUGH TEXDOT. THAT'S THE BULK OF THESE CHARGES
>> OKAY. COMMISSIONERS, ANY QUESTIONS OR
THANK YOU. >> PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.
>> COMMISSIONER COHEN. >> YES.
>> COMMISSIONER SHELL. >> YES.
>> COMMISSIONER INGALSBE. >> YES.
[I3. Discussion and possible action to authorize the County Judge to execute an Advance Funding Agreement between Hays County and the Texas Department of Transportation relating to the Jacobs Well Road (CR 182) Improvement from 0.425 east of Mount Sharp Road to 0.6 miles east of Mount Sharp Road and amend the budget accordingly. SHELL/BORCHERDING]
>> PLEASE OPEN I3. >> DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO AUTHORIZE THE COUNTY JUDGE TO EXECUTE AN ADVANCE FUNDING AGREEMENT BETWEEN HAYS COUNTY AND TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION RELATING TO THE JACOBS WELL ROAD, CR 182, IMPROVEMENT FROM .425 EAST OF MOUNT SHARP ROAD TO .6 MILES EAST OF MOUNT SHARP ROAD AND AMEND THE BUDGET ACCORDINGLY.
JUST KIDDING. >> THANK YOU, JUDGE BACERRA.
I AM FAMILIAR WITH THAT ROAD AND SINCE JACOBS WELL IS SHUTDOWN RIGHT NOW, I GUESS WE MIGHT CONSIDER CHANGING THE NAME TO JACOBS HOLE, BUT THAT IS ANOTHER STORY.
AS PART OF THE HAYS COUNTY 2016 ROAD BOND PROGRAM A PRELIMINARY ENGINEERING REPORT, A PER, WAS PREPARED TO ONLY JACOBS WELL ROAD TO RANCH MARKET 12. THE PURPOSE OF THE PER WAS TO IDENTIFY RECOMMENDATIONS FOR THE CORRIDOR BASED ON CURRENT CONDITIONS REGARDING DESIGN STANDARDS FOR THE CURRENT ROADWAY SPEED. CURBS AT -- CURVE THAT'S IMPACT THE DRIVE BUILT AND SAFETY OF THE ROAD IS A SIGNIFICANT CONNECTOR TO FM 2325 AND RANCH MARK 12 WITH A HISTORY OF CRASHES AND FLOODING EVENTS AND IS EXPECTED TO CONTINUE ALONG THE CORRIDOR WITH THE LOCATION OF A NEW PRIMARY SCHOOL IN THE AREA. ALL RIGHT.
ALL SOUNDS GOOD AND FINE. I HAVE DONE THE MATH HERE AND APPARENTLY THE STRETCH OF THE ROAD THAT WE ARE GONNA REPAVE ORIE DESIGN IS GOING TO BE .175 MILES AND IN ORDER TO DO THAT -- WELL, I WILL SKIP TO THE TOTAL. THE LOCAL PARTICIPATION IS $136,621. STATE PARTICIPATION IS UNCLE SUGAR WILL PAY 79,721 FOR A GRAND TOTAL OF $809,963.
NOW, WHEN YOU MULTIPLY OUT HOW MUCH IT WOULD BE IF WE ACTUALLY
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CONSTRUCTED A FULL MILE, THAT WOULD BE 4 MILLION 628,360 FOR A FULL MILE. NOW, WE ARE NOT PAYING THAT MUCH WHICH IS A GOOD THING. I KNOW THERE IS A TENDENCY TO SAY, WELL, HECK, WE ARE GETTING THIS THING FOR UNDER 136,321.WELL, WE ARE REALLY NOT. WE PAY STATE TAXES TOO.
MOST OF US PAY INCOME TAX. THIS THING IS RIDICULOUSLY EXPENSIVE. $4.6 MILLION PER MILE? HAVE I HEARD OF MILLION-DOLLAR MILES, BUT THIS IS 4.6 TIMES THAT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
>> COMMISSIONER? >> THANKS, JUDGE.
THE PROJECT IS JACOBS WELL ROAD BETWEEN [INAUDIBLE] AND 2325.
THERE IS A NEW SCHOOL AT THE CORNER AND IT HEADS NORTH ON 12 AND THIS CURVE THAT WAS IDENTIFIED IS IDENTIFIED BY TEXDOT AS A DANGEROUS SECTION OF ROADWAY.
WE HAD A REPORT ON THE CORRIDOR AND IT WAS IDENTIFIED IN THAT AND THEY DECIDED TO SEE IF THEY COULD USE THE HIGHWAY SAFETY IMPROVEMENT FUNDING. THE EXACT DESIGN HAS NOT BEEN DETERMINED. OBVIOUSLY IT IS NOT JUST THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE PAVEMENT. IT IS EVERYTHING IN THE RIGHT OF WAY AND THE UTILITY LOCATION, ET CETERA.
I GUESS WE COULD NOT USE OUR FEDERAL AND STATE TAXES.
I WOULD APPRECIATE HAYS COUNTY IF I COULD THIS IS ACTUALLY A REALLY GOOD THING AND THE COUNTY INVESTS SOME OF THE LOCAL DOLLARS AND THEY WILL FIND A WAY TO TAKE 90% AND FUND THEM IN A SPECIFIC WAY. THAT'S A BACKGROUND OF THIS.
THE ACTUAL DESIGN IS DONE IN PRELIMINARY ENGINEERING.
IT IS A SIGNIFICANT CHANGE, BUT IT IS A DANGEROUS CURVE AND A SPEED IN WHICH IT IS PART OF THE DANGER AND PART OF THE PROJECT
IS TO NATURALLY [INAUDIBLE]. >> COMMISSIONERS, QUESTIONS AND
>> PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. >> COMMISSIONER SHELL.
>> YES. >> COMMISSIONER SMITH.
>> YES. >> COMMISSIONER COHEN.
>> YES. >> COMMISSIONER INGALSBE.
[G4. Approve specifications for RFP 2023-P05 Jail Food Services and authorize Purchasing to advertise and solicit for proposals. INGALSBE/CUTLER]
>> COULD WE GO BACK TO G4? >> I WAS WAITING FOR YOUR CUE.
GO BACK TO G4. > WE ARE GOING TO OPEN THAT
BACK UP. >> APPROVE SPES TPAU RATION -- SPECIFICATIONS FOR RFP2023JL FOOD SERVICES AND AUTHORIZE PURCHASING TO ADVERTISE AND SOLICIT FOR PROPOSALS.
>> OKAY. >> GOOD MORNING, JUDGE AND COMMISSIONERS. MAYBE IF I'M HERE TO CLARIFY SOME OF THE QUESTIONS YOU HAD EARLIER.
I WOULD LIKE TO EXPLAIN -- I'M SORRY.
>> STATE YOUR NAME AND TITLE. >> CAPTAIN JULIE, SUPPORT SERVICES DIVISIONS AT THE JAIL. SO THIS IS A LITTLE BIT MORE COMPLICATED THAN JUST PURCHASING FOOD.
WE ARE ACTUALLY WANTING THE COURT'S APPROVAL TO ALLOW US AN OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK FOR A MANAGEMENT COMPANY THAT WOULD HELP US PURCHASE FOOD AND HAVE A VERY STRICT INVENTORY CONTROL AND DEAL WITH THE RELIGIOUS DIETS THAT WE DO HAVE AND HANDLING COMPLAINTS. IN ADDITION TO THAT WE ARE SUFFERING A BIG SHORTAGE OF KITCHEN WORKERS RIGHT NOW.
I HAVE SEVEN EMPLOYEES -- WELL, I HAVE SEVEN POSITIONS.
I HAVE TWO SUPERVISORS AND ONE KITCHEN WORKER RIGHT NOW.
WE ARE STRUGGLING. THE JAIL STAFF IS HAVING TO
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COVER ADDITIONAL SHIFTS THAT THE KITCHEN WORKERS WOULD NORMALLY HAVE. AND THE REASON FOR THAT HAS TO DO WITH THE LOW PAY THAT THE KITCHEN STAFF CURRENTLY GETS.AND SO I AM JUST NOT ABLE TO HIRE ANYONE TO RUN THAT KITCHEN.
SO WHAT I AM MERELY DOING IS EXPLORING THE OPTIONS.
OUR GOAL IS TO BE FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE TAXPAYER MONEY.
AND I AM AT THAT POINT WHERE WE DON'T HAVE THE STAFFING AND WE HAVE TO LOOK AT WHAT ELSE CAN BE DONE.
>> COMMISSIONER SHELL WAS HIGHLIGHTING AN OPPORTUNITY FOR OUR OWN COUNTY PAY EMPLOYEES -- PAID EMPLOYEES TO DO SOME OF THE WORK THAT IS CONTRACTED OUT. MY STYLE OF THINKING IS 100% IN LINE WITH COMMISSIONER SHELL ON THAT FRONT.
AND NOW THAT YOU HAVE SHED MORE LIGHT ON THIS, I WOULD DOUBLE DOWN AND SAY I DON'T WANT TO SUPPORT THIS EFFORT BECAUSE IT IS GOING IN THE OPPOSITE DIRECTION OF WHAT I BELIEVE IS MOST USEFUL. INSTEAD OF SEEKING TO HIRE AN OUTSIDE COMPANY TO RUN OUR JAIL KITCHEN, I WOULD RATHER AN AGENDA -- IS MY TIME UP? I WOULD RATHER AN AGENDA ITEM TO RAISE THE SALARIES SO THAT YOU COULD DO THE JOB OF RECRUITING AND RETAINING INSTEAD OF OUT SOURCING THE KITCHEN PROCESS.
>> IT IS NOT AN ALL IN ONE. GOING TO A COMPANY YOU CAN LOOK AT A HYBRID FIRST. YOU CAN HAVE THE STAFFING PIECE INCLUDED OR KEEP THE STAFFING PIECE OUT OF IT.
THAT'S WHY WE WANT TO EXPLORE THE OPTION.
WE DO UNDERSTAND THE SALARIES. WHICH WE COULD DO THE WAY YOU ARE SAYING, BUT A COMPANY WOULD REALLY BE STRICT ON THE INVENTORY CONTROL CREATING MENUS THAT WHAT WE HAVE IN THE KITCHEN WE WILL USE THAT WEEK. BE ABLE TO HAVE BIGGER PURCHASING POWER. SO THAT IS WHAT OUR GOAL IS.
WE WANT TO AT LEAST EXPLORE THIS OPTION AND SEE WHAT WOULD WORK FOR HAYS COUNTY OR WHAT WOULDN'T.
WE ARE NOT NECESSARILY SAY WE WOULD GO TO A JUDGE, BUT WE WON'T KNOW IF WE DON'T EXPLORE IT.
>> I WANT TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND.
EVEN IF WE BROUGHT SOMEBODY IN TO HAVE A BETTER CONTROL OF THE MEAL PREPARATION AND ALL OF THAT , WE CAN STILL HIRE LOCAL FOLKS TO WORK IN THE KITCHEN UNDER THIS MANAGEMENT.
>> YES. >> AND I KNOW WE ARE DOING THE STUDY AND I'M SURE SOME MEMBERS OF YOUR -- THE SHERIFF OR SOMEONE SPOKE WITH MEG AND IS THAT SOME OF THE POSITIONS THAT WERE LOOKED AT REGARDING THE SALARY CHANGES IS THE FOOD
SERVICE INDIVIDUALS? >> I WANT TO SAY IT WAS.
>> YES. THEY ARE LOOKING AT THAT.
>> IF WE CAN HIRE LOCALLY, I THINK THAT'S GREAT.
THE OTHER PART OF THAT IS THAT I KNOW THAT WHEN WE DISCUSSED THIS ITEM WRAOE WERE TALKING ABOUT BUYING LOCAL -- THIS ITEM WE WERE TALKING ABOUT BUYING LOCALLY.
I KNOW IT IS MORE THAN JUST WANTING TO SUPPORT OUR LOCAL --
WHAT ARE THEY CALLED? >> VENDORS.
>> AND WE DO -- OF COURSE WE HAVE PURCHASING LIMITATION THAT'S WE -- I MEAN, WE HAVE -- CERTAIN THINGS WE HAVE TO MEET.
IF WE ARE GOING TO PURCHASE SOMETHING WE ARE -- IF THEY ARE NOT ON THE BUY BOARD, WE HAVE TO GET THREE QUOTES FROM THREE VENDORS FOR AN ITEM. AND THAT'S VERY TIME-COMSUMING.
WE HAVE A KITCHEN TO RUN. AND SO WE NORMALLY GO TOWARD CO-OPS AND BUY BOARDS TO DO THAT.
I KNOW WE ARE PURCHASING OUR MEAT FROM DOUBLE-D'S AND LOCAL COMPANIES PURCHASING OUR BREAD FROM FLOUR'S BAKERY.
AND OF COURSE WE HAVE TO BE CAREFUL.
WE CAN'T GO OUT TO SOMEONE AND SAY, HEY, YOU KNOW, WE WANT A PURCHASE FROM YOU. IT IS NOT FAIR TO ANY OTHER VENDOR IN HAYS COUNTY. WE CAN'T SOLICIT THAT FROM THEM.
>> SURE. >> I BELIEVE -- AND MARE RAW -- MARE RAW SOL CAN VERIFY THIS, BUT IT SAYS THE LOCAL VENDOR WANTS TO PURCHASE SOMETHING FROM US, THEN THE MEANS TO DO SO IS ON THE COUNTY WEBSITE. IT IS TO REACH OUT TO US AND WE CAN EITHER GET A QUOTE FOR THAT OR HOPEFULLY THEY CAN GET ON A BUY BOARD OR A BUY BOARD OR CO-OP.
>> [INAUDIBLE]. >> NEED TO DO A BETTER JOB, I
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VACCINATIONS. >> GETTING THAT INFORMATION OUT.
>> SO CAPTAIN, HOW MANY YEARS HAVE YOU PW-PBG RUNNING -- HAVE
YOU BEEN RUNNING THE JAIL? >> WELL, AS A CAPTAIN PROBABLY
ABOUT FIVE YEARS. >> AND OVERALL IN THAT CAPACITY, IN THAT SPACE, HOW LONG HAVE YOU BEEN THERE WOULD YOU SAY MORE OR
LESS? >> BEEN WITH THE COUNTY 32
YEARS. >> AND I WAS GONNA ASK -- THANK YOU FOR THAT SERVICE AND I AM LEANING IN ON THAT EXPERIENCE.
IN ALL THOSE YEARS THAT YOU'VE BEEN IN THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE WHICH I KNOW YOU HAVE SEEN MANY SHERIFFS AND MANY EVERYTHING.
I REALLY AM LOOKING FORWARD TO YOUR RESPONSE.
HOW HAVE WE RUN THE KITCHEN ALL THOSE YEARS BASED ON REMOVING THE STAFFING PART THAT WE FIND IT MORE FAVORABLE TO OUT SOURCE
IT. >> WE CAN ABSOLUTELY DO IT.
I JUST CAN'T DO IT WITHOUT A STAFF.
I THINK WE CAN DO BETTER. IF WE HAD SOMEONE WHO COULD FOCUS ON THINGS THAT HAD A SOFTWARE IN ORDER FOR US TO MANAGE OUR PRODUCTS. WE DON'T HAVE THAT RIGHT NOW.
IT IS DONE BY OUR KITCHEN SUPERVISOR AND IT IS BIGGER THAN THAT NOW. IT IS NEEDING A SOFTWARE TO MANAGE AND CREATE MENUS. WE CAN DO THAT.
WE CAN FIND A SOFTWARE TO DO THAT FOR US.
WE CAN GO THAT ROUTE. I THINK THE BIGGEST CHALLENGE FOR US TODAY IS STAFFING. IT IS NOT BEING ABLE TO -- AFTER COVID WE JUST CAN'T GET ANYBODY TO WORK.
ES SKPHERBL -- ESPECIALLY IN A JAIL KITCHEN AROUND JAIL INMATES
FOR THAT SALARY. >> JULIE, THERE HAVE BEEN CONCERNS ABOUT CERTAIN DIETS, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE THERE ARE SOME INMATES THAT REQUIRE A CERTAIN DIET.
I KNOW WE ARE DOING OUR BEST TO ACCOMMODATE THEM.
>> THAT'S RIGHT. THROUGH MY YEARS I DIDN'T SEE CERTAIN REHREUPBLG -- RELIGIOUS DIETS IN THE PAST.
TODAY THEY EXIST AND THE COMMUNITY IS CHANGING.
WE HAVE DIFFERENT GROUPS WE HAVE TO ACCOMMODATE.
THOSE ARE JUST THOSE DIFFERENT THINGS THAT HAVE COME UP THROUGH
THE YEARS. >> COMMISSIONER COHEN?
>> YOU KNOW, I BELIEVE IN GIVING ALL THE INFORMATION.
SO WHAT THEY OFFER IN SALARY AND YOUR SYSTEM, IT IS IMPORTANT TO HAVE ALL OF THE INFORMATION IN FRONT OF YOU SO YOU CAN MAKE THAT INFORMED DECISION. WE ALL KNOW ABOUT THE SALARY ISSUE HERE. WE DO WANT TO BRING PEOPLE IN THAT LIVE IN THE AREA THAT COULD OBVIOUSLY WORK IN THE JAILS AND SUPPORT YOU. THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE ARE WORKING ON ALREADY. LIKE YOU SAID, POPULATIONS ARE CHANGING AND COMMUNITIES ARE CHANGES AND TECHNOLOGY ARE IMPORTANT TO HELP STREAM LINE EFFICIENCY, ESPECIALLY WITHIN FOOD. THERE ARE OPTIONS TO DO THAT.
WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THAT AS WELL.
I APPRECIATE ALL OF YOUR SERVICE THAT'S A LONGTIME.
YES, MA'AM. >> COMMISSIONERS, ANY OTHER
QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? >> JUST, THANK YOU FOR ALL YOU DO. I CAN TELL YOU THAT MY ONLY EXPERIENCE IS THE LAST FOUR YEARS, BUT IT SEEMS LIKE EVERY TURN AS YOUR DIRECTOR OF LEADERSHIP IN THE JAIL, YOU ARE CON -- CONSTANTLY TRYING TO MAKE IMPROVEMENTS AND TRY NEW THINGS THAT GIVEN YOUR HISTORY IN THE JAIL, I THINK YOU ARE PROBABLY ONE OF THE FEW AND ONLY PEOPLE THAT COULD DO IT OR THAT COULD SEE WHERE THERE IS HOLES IN THE SYSTEM THAT MAY NEED FILLING.
THOSE OF Y'ALL WHO DON'T KNOW, THE CAPTAIN CAME IN AT THE LOWEST LEVEL OF THE JAIL AND NOW AT THE HIGHEST LEVEL OF THE JAIL. SHE HAS SEEN EVERYTHING IN BETWEEN. I THINK IT IS PRETTY AMAZING THAT YOU PROGRESSED THE WAY YOU HAVE.
JUST APPRECIATE YOUR SERVICE. >> JULIE, JUST ONE OTHER THING.
IF WE APPROVE THIS PROPOSAL TODAY, THEN IT IS JUST THAT.
I MEAN, WE ARE APPROVING THE PROPOSAL AND YOU WILL GET THE INFORMATION AND THAT WILL COME BACK TO COURT AND IT WILL BE
KIND OF A FINAL APPROVAL. >> YES, MA'AM.
>> AND WHO WILL BE ON THE PANEL TO REVIEW?
>> I HAVEN'T NECESSARILY THOUGHT ABOUT THAT YET.
I DEFINITELY WOULD LIKE SOMEBODY FROM PURCHASING TO BE A PART OF IT WITH ME AND MY OTHER LIEUTENANT THAT OVERSEES THE KITCHEN. I THINK IT IS USUALLY THREE MEMBERS. HOPEFULLY STEPHANIE -- I DON'T KNOW IF STEPHANIE CAN. MARISOL, ARE YOU ALLOWED TO?
>> WHEN WE ARE HANDLING THE PROCESS WE DON'T PARTICIPATE IN
THE SCORING OF EVALUATIONS. >> OKAY.
>> MAYBE THE BUDGET OFFICE. >> OH, MAYBE THE BUDGET OFFICE
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WOULD HELP. >> A DEFINITE MAYBE.
>> ANYONE FROM THE COURT? ARE WE ALLOWED?
>> ABSOLUTELY YOU ARE ALLOWED. >> BECAUSE I WOULD.
>> COMMISSIONER COHEN VOLUNTEERS TO BE ON YOUR BODY.
>> THAT'S BEAUTIFUL. THANK YOU.
ANYTHING ELSE ON YOUR AGENDA ITEM?
>> [INAUDIBLE]. >> ODD NUMBER.
SO WE CAN PULL SOMEBODY OFF OF ANOTHER.
MAYBE IT COULD BE YOU AND PURCHASING -- I MEAN BUDGET OFFICE AND COMMISSIONER. ONE, ONE, ONE.
>> OF COURSE I HAVE TO RUN IT BY THE SHERIFF.
>> ONE, ONE, ONE. A REPRESENTATIVE FROM THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE MUST BE ON IT. I AGREE.
ANYTHING ELSE, COMMISSIONER? >> I THINK I'M GOOD.
>> BLESS YOU AND PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.
>> COMMISSIONER INGALSBE. >> YES.
>> COMMISSIONER SHELL. >> YES.
>> COMMISSIONER COHEN. >> YES.
[I4. Discussion and possible action to authorize the execution of Change Order No. 12 in the amount of $1,077,457.36 to the Construction Contract with Sterling Delaware Holding Company for the FM 1626 South project from FM 2770 to RM 967 as part of the Pass-Through Finance Program and amend the budget accordingly. SMITH/BORCHERDING]
>> PLEASE OPEN I4. >> DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO AUTHORIZE THE EXECUTION OF CHANGE ORDER NUMBER 12 IN THE AMOUNT OF 1 MILLION 077, 457.36.
TO THE CONSTRUCTION CONTRACT OF STERLING DELAWARE HOLDING COMPANY FOR THE FM 1626 SOUTH PROJECT FROM FM 2770 TO RM 967 AS PART OF THE PASS-THROUGH FINANCE PROGRAM AND AMEND THE
BUDGET ACCORDINGLY. >> SO MOVED.
>> SECOND. >> PLEASE SPEAK UP AT THE PODIUM, MR. DAN LYON. UNLESS YOU ARE SATISFIED YOU GOT
IF I AM GETTING TOO FAMILIAR WITH YOU, LET ME KNOW.
>> CHANGE ORDER NUMBER 12 HAS FINAL BALANCING FOR THE OVERRUN/UNDERRUN CONTRACT QUANTITIES ON THE CONTRACT THAT ARE A RESULT OF UNFORESEEABLE DIFFERING SITE CONDITIONS AND ADDITIONAL LINE ITEMS FOR FORCE ACCOUNT ITEM THAT'S WERE PERFORMED ON THE PROJECT BY A REQUEST OF THE COUNTY.
INCLUDING MODIFICATIONS TO THE PLAN SHEETS.
THIS ORDER ADDRESSES A NEW CONTRACT ITEM FOR A NEGOTIATED SETTLEMENT AND ADDITIONAL WORKING DAYS GRANTED TO COVER ADDITIONAL ITEMS THAT WERE ADDED THROUGHOUT THE LIKELY PROJECT.
THIS CHANGE ORDER RESULTS IN THE INCREASE OF 1 MILLION 77,457.37 TO THE CONTRACT AMOUNT FOR AN ADJUSTED TOTAL CONTRACT OF 22 MILLION 309, 632.83. NO ADDITIONAL DAYS WILL BE ADDED OR DEDUCTED AT THIS TIME. THAT'S AS A RESULT OF THIS CHANGE ORDER. MY QUESTION IS, THIS IS THE 12TH CHANGE ORDER. WHAT WAS THE ORIGINAL CONTRACT AMOUNT FOR? AND I HAVE SEEN THIS OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN. I KNOW IT SAYS UNFORESEEN CIRCUMSTANCES AND MATTERS BEYOND OUR CONTROL, YOU KNOW.
I DON'T KNOW. APPARENTLY WE ARE NOT NEGOTIATING VERY GOOD CONTRACTS BECAUSE SOME OF THIS STUFF SHOULD BE UNDER THE CONTROL OF THE ENGINEERING FIRMS THAT ARE CONSTRUCTING THESE ROADS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
THAT'S WHY THEY ARE THE PROFESSIONALS.
THAT'S WHY WE'RE PAYING THEM INSTEAD OF US GOING OUT AND DOING IT OURSELVES. 12 CHANGE ORDERS IN THE LIFE OF A CONTRACT SEEMS LIKE -- SEEMS TO ME TO BE A BIT EX -- EXCESSIVE. I DON'T KNOW WHAT Y'ALL THINK ON IT, BUT IT'S REALLY UNFAIR TO THOSE PEOPLE WHO ORIGINALLY BID IT FOR THIS CONTRACT IN THE LAW. MAYBE THEY DID TAKE SOME OF THESE THINGS INTO CONSIDERATION AND THIS OTHER COMPANY DIDN'T.
AND THIS IS A HYPOTHETICAL. AND THE COMPANY WE ARE USING NOW IS GETTING REWARDED FOR BEING -- FOR GIVING US A POOREST PHAEUGS ON WHAT IT COST -- POOREST -- POOR ESTIMATION ON WHAT IT TAKES FOR THE PROJECT. THANK YOU.
>> I WILL ADDRESS ONE THING AND THEN I'M GOING TO LET JERRY AND MR. KENNEDY DISCUSS THIS FINAL CLOSEOUT.
THE ONE THING I WOULD SAY IS IN A PROJECT OF THIS SCOPE, I MEAN, TO YOUR QUESTION -- OR TO MR. LY ONS' QUESTION REGARDING THE NUMBER OF CHANGE ORDERS, THE SHEAR SCOPE OF THE PROJECT, I DON'T FIND THAT SHOCKING AT ALL. WE ARE LOOKING AT MILES OF
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ROADWAY. IT IS NOT AS -- TO THE POINT THAT MR. LYONS MADE, THERE ARE A LOT OF CHANGES THAT HAPPEN HERE.IF YOU LOOK AT THE BACK UP, THERE ARE FIVE PAGES OF LINE BYLINE -- LINE BY LINE, ITEMIZED WHAT THE CHANGES ARE.
I CAN TELL YOU THROUGH THE WORK OF MR. KENNEDY'S OFFICE AND MR. BORSHLIN'S OFFICE THEY WENT THROUGH IT WITH A FINE-TOOTH COMB AND THEY WERE ABLE TO ADDRESS SOME OF THOSE WHERE WE DIDN'T END UP PAYING FOR THINGS THEY THOUGHT WERE UNNECESSARY OR THAT THEY THOUGHT WERE NOT ADDITIONAL.
THEY SHOULD NOT BE ADDITIONAL CHARGES.
WITH THAT I TURN IT OVER TO THEM.
>> AND SOME OF THAT WAS WEATHER DELAYS.
>> I GUESS WE CAN START WITH MR. >> THIS IS ONE OF TWO PROJECTS AND REALLY MORE THAN TWO, BUT TWO ROAD PROJECTS WHERE WE EXPERIENCED SOME DELAYS AND SOME OF THEM WERE CAUSED BY COVID AND SOME BY WEATHER AND SOME CRITICAL PATH ISSUES WITH A PROJECT OF THIS SIZE. ONE SHOULD EXPECT SOME DELAYS.
AND OFTEN TIMES AT THE END OF A PROJECT WE HAVE TO RECONCILE THAT WITH THE CONSTRUCTION FIRM AND OFTENTIMES THERE IS A DELAY CLAIM AND IN THIS CASE THERE WAS A PRE-CLAIM FOR DELAYED CHARGES.
THAT WAS MEDIATED. IT WAS SETTLED FOR A SIGNIFICANTLY LESS AMOUNT THAN THE CLAIM BY A CONTRACTOR.
>> ANYTHING TO CONTRIBUTE? >> YES.
MR. KENNEDY'S EXPLANATION IS VERY THOROUGH AND I WOULD LIKE TO EMPHASIZE THAT THE COUNTY DID DUE DILIGENCE TO MAKE SURE THAT THESE CHARGES WERE REASONABLE AND APPROPRIATE.
>> AND FOR THE SIZE PROJECT THAT IT WAS, IT IS IN LINE BASED ON YOUR DECADES OF PROFESSIONAL EXPERIENCE?
>> ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS, QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS?
>> AND THE LAST THING I WOULD SAY, IT IS IN THE BACK UP.
IT WAS -- ACTUALLY THIS WAS A VOTER-APPROVED PROJECT AND THIS IS PART OF THE PASS THROUGH FINANCING, THE PASS THROUGH FINANCING PROGRAM WITH TX-DOT AS MR. LIONS ILLUSTRATED.
>> CALL THE ROLL. >> COMMISSIONER SMITH.
>> YES. >> COMMISSIONER SHELL.
>> YES. COMMISSIONER INGALSBE.
>> YES. >> AND THIS IS NUMBER 12 BECAUSE
THIS IS THE LAST ONE AM I RIGHT? >> YES.
[I5. Discussion and possible action to authorize the County Judge to execute an interlocal agreement between Hays County and the City of Buda related to the study of the SH 45 Southwest Gap Project and amend the budget accordingly. SMITH/BORCHERDING]
>> PLEASE OPEN UP NUMBER 5. >> I-5, DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO AUTHORIZE THE COUNTY JUDGE TO EXECUTE AN INTER LOCAL AGREEMENT BETWEEN HAYS COUNTY AND THE CITY OF BUDA RELATED TO THE STUDY OF THE SH 45 SOUTHWEST GAP PROJECT AND AMEND THE BUDGET
>> SECOND. >> AND WE HAVE ONE PERSON SIGNED UP TO SPEAK. MR. DAN LYON.
>> THANK YOU JUDGE BACERRA. THIS WILL BE THE LAST TIME I BOTHER YOU. I PROMISE.
>> YOU ARE NOT BOTHERING ME. >> FOR TODAY ANYWAY.
UNDER THE SCUM -- UNDER THE SUMMARY, THEY SAY THE THEY WILL -- THEY WILL CAUSE TO PARTICIPATE WITH HAYS COUNTY FOR THE PRELIMINARY ENGINEERING COST OF THE PROJECT INCLUDING TRAVEL -- THE TRAVEL DEMAND MODELING, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT IS. MAYBE I MISSED A COMMA THERE.
ENVIRONMENTAL INVESTIGATIONS AND PUBLIC INVOLVEMENT AND AND ALTERNATIVES. DEVELOPMENT/ANALYSIS.
UNDER THIS AGREEMENT THE CITY OF BUDA WILL BE RESPONSIBLE FOR 500,000 OF THE 2.5 MILLION PRELIMINARY ENGINEERING COSTS.
PAYMENT TO BE MADE WITHIN 60-DAYS OF THE EFFECTIVE AGREEMENT. I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS THE SAME THING THAT COMMISSIONER SMITH AND COMMISSIONER JONES WERE DEALING WITH. WHERE THEY GOT THE DISPUTE WITH TRAVIS COUNTY. ANYWAY.
IF IT IS NOT, I WILL STAND CORRECTED.
$2 MILLION OUR COST AND $500,000 FOR BUD -- FOR BUDA'S COSTS FOR TRAVEL, DEMAND MODELING, ENVIRONMENTAL INVESTIGATIONS, PUBLIC INVOLVEMENT AND ALTERNATIVES DEVELOPMENT/ANALYSIS. THAT TO ME IS JUST -- THERE IS A
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COMPLETE DISCONNECT BETWEEN THINGS THEY HAVE LISTED THAT THIS IS GOING TO PAY FOR AND HOW MUCH WE ARE PAYING FOR IT.I KNOW PEOPLE MIGHT CONSIDER ME OLD-FASHIONED AND A TIGHT WAD, I DON'T CARE. THIS SEEMS RIDICULOUS.
ONCE AGAIN. I DON'T SAY IT IS NECESSARILY A BAD PROJECT. AND THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS THAT WERE BROUGHT UP THAT ARE NOT NECESSARILY BAD PROJECTS.
BUT THE COST IS JUST INCREDIBLE. AND THEN WE HAVE ONE COMMISSIONER SAYING, WELL, IF WE CAN PASS IT OFF TO THE STATE AND THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, THAT'S WHY WE HAVE A $32 TRILLION BUDGET DEFICIT AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL AND IT WON'T BE PAID OFF.
>> BACK TO 45, SIR. >> THANK YOU.
WE CAN'T AFFORD IT AND THERE HAS TO BE AN ALTERNATIVE TO FUND THAT ALTERNATIVE. AND LET'S SAY -- LET'S SEE IF WE CAN SAVE SOME MONEY FOR ONCE IN OUR LIVES.
THANK YOU. >> COMMISSIONER SMITH?
>> THANK YOU JUDGE. ACTUALLY THIS PROJECT IF BE LOOK AT SOME OF THE PREVIOUS SECTIONS OF 45, I THINK, TO GET THROUGH ENVIRONMENTAL CLEARANCE, IT HAS BEEN OVER $4 MILLION FOR THOSE $4 TO $5 MILLION. WE ARE LOOKING AT DOING THIS FINAL GAP HOPEFULLY IN THE RANGE OF WHAT WE APPROVED AS A COURT WHICH IS BROUGHT FORWARD BY THE FORMER COMMISSIONER JONES AT 2.5 MILLION. LOOKING AT THE LAYOUT OF THE ROADWAY, THE VAST MAJORITY AND ACTUALLY ALL OF THE ROADWAY IS IN THE COUNTY, AND IT IS NOT WITHIN THE CITY OF BUDA.
THIS IS SUCH AN IMPORTANT PROJECT TO THE CITY OF BUDA THAT THEY ARE STEPPING UP WITH THEIR CITY REVENUE TO THE TUNE OF HALF A MILLION DOLLARS TO NOT ONLY ENDORSE THE PROJECT, BUT TO HAVE SKIN IN THE GAME BECAUSE IT IS THAT IMPORTANT TO HIM.
I COMMEND THE CITY. I WISH OUR OTHER MUNICIPALITIES IN THE COUNTY WOULD BE WILLING TO STEP UP AND WRITE US A CHECK FOR SOME OF THE WORK WE ARE DOING IN THE VARIOUS AREAS.
I LOOK FORWARD AGAIN AND THIS AGREEMENT IS SIMPLY TO BE ABLE TO ACCEPT THAT PAYMENT FROM THE CITY OF BUDA AND I LOOK FORWARD TO THE COUNTY BEING ABLE TO USE THOSE FUNDS.
>> SKPHEUGS -- COMMISSIONER INGALSBE?
>> KWRUPBLG. SKWR-PL OKAY -- JUDGE, I AM OKAY
WITH THE ITEM. >> NO QUESTIONS.
>> PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. >> COMMISSIONER COHEN.
>> YES. >> COMMISSIONER INNING TKPWELGS
>> COMMISSIONER SHELL. >> YES.
>> COMMISSIONER SMITH. >> YES.
[I6. Discussion and possible action to accept the maintenance bond rider extension from DNT Construction, Inc. until July 6, 2023 for Shadow Creek subdivision, Phase 9, Section 2 - bond #1848963 in the amount of $180,609.38. COHEN/BORCHERDING]
PLEASE OPEN NUMBER 6 TO FINISH THAT UP.>> IJ, DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO ACCEPT THE MAINTENANCE BOND RIDER EXTECHS FROM DNT CONSTRUCTION INC. UNTIL JULY 6, 2023 FOR FORESHADOW CREEK SUBDIVISION PHASE 9 SECTION 2 BOND NUMBER 1848 FINE 63 IN THE AMOUNT OF $180,609.38.
>> COMMISSIONER? >> THIS IS JUST LIKE A WARRANTY EXTENDED TO JULY 6TH FOR THE BOND THROUGH -RT HANOVER GROUP.
>> PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. >> COMMISSIONER SMITH?
>> YES. >> COMMISSIONER COHEN.
>> YES. >> COMMISSIONER SHELL.
>> YES. >> COMMISSIONER INGALSBE.
>> YES. WE WILL DO SUBDIVISIONS AND MIS?
>> [INAUDIBLE]. SKPRAEU -- K6?
[K6. Discussion and possible action to appoint and confirm the chairperson for the Hays County Historical Commission. SHELL]
SURE. I WAS HOPING.DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO APPOINT AND CONFIRM THE CHAIRPERSON FOR THE HAYS COUNTY HISTORICAL COMMISSION.
>> COMMISSION STPHER. >> JUDGE, THANK YOU.
I KNOW YOU HAVE AN ITEM EARLIER REGARDING A SIMILAR OR THE SAME TOPIC. I KNOW THERE HAS BEEN SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT THE COMMISSION AND APPOINTMENT IN THE SELECTION OF THE CHAIR, POSTING OF MEETINGS, ET CETERA.
[INAUDIBLE] WHERE WE ARE IN THE COURT.
[INAUDIBLE] TWO MEETINGS BE APPOINTED, OUR FORMER CHAIR KAY JOHNSON LET US KNOW SHE WAS NOT GOING TO SERVE AGAIN AS THE CHAIR. THE BYLAWS STATE THEY WILL MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO COMMISSIONER'S COURT ON THE APPOINTMENT OF A CHAIR. THEY HELD THEIR MEETING THIS PAST THURSDAY WHICH WAS ON THEIR TRADITIONAL MEETING DATE WHICH I
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BELIEVE IS THE LAST THURSDAY OF THE MONTH.THEY POSTED THE MEETING ON THEIR WEBSITE AS WELL AS THE GOVERNMENT CENTER IN THE COUNTY COURTHOUSE.
IN OTHER WORDS INFORMATION STATING THAT FOR SOME THE POSTING WAS TAKEN DOWN AT THE GOVERNMENT CENTER.
I CANNOT CONFIRM THAT. BUT THEY DID CALL THE GENERAL COUNCIL AND ASKED IF THEY FOLLOWED ALL OF THE THINGS NECESSARY TO POST A PROPER MEETING PURSUANT TO THE BILAWS PER SAOUBT TO -- PURSUANT TO STATUTE OUTS AND MR. KENNEDY'S ANSWER WAS, YES, THEY HAD DONE IT PROPERLY.
I KNOW THERE WERE QUESTIONS THAT THE MEETING WAS NOT LEGALLY POSTED. I DO NOT KNOW WHY THAT WOULD BE THE CASE. I BELIEVE THEIR SECRETARY, MS. KNIGHT, IS HERE. IF THEY ARE THE PERSON RESPONSIBLE FOR THE MEETING AND IT WAS DONE IN THE SAME WAY IT HAS IN THE PAST. THEY HAD A QUORUM OF THE MEMBERS AND I BELIEVE THEY HAD TWO ROUNDS OF VOTING AND THEY SELECTED A NOMINEE FOR THEIR CHAIRPERSON WHICH, YOU KNOW, I'M HAPPY TO GO OVER THE VOTING I BELIEVE I HAVE AN EMAIL WITH EXACTLY WHAT ROUNDS OF VOTING. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT. IT WAS SENT TO ME AND MAYBE THE REST OF THE COURT AS WELL. WHEN THEY TOOK THEIR VOTES FOR THEIR CHAIRPERSON THEY WERE FIRST ROUND AND THEY HAD 19 MEMBERS PRESENT OF 25. THEY TOOK ROUND ONE 18 MEMBERS VOTED IN ROUND ONE. MR. GIBSON RECEIVED 7 VOTES AND MR. KOKER RECEIVED FOUR VOTES. THEY TOOK A SECOND ROUND OF THE TOP TWO WHICH WOULD BE FOR KOKER AND MS. GIBSON.
SHE RECEIVED 11 AND HE RECEIVED 7.
THE MAJORITY WOULD BE THAT LINDA KOKER BE NOMINATED AND CONFIRMED BY US TO BE THE CHAIR CHAIRPERSON TKWAB -- WOULD BE THE CHAIRPERSON OF THE HISTORICAL COMMISSION.
>> COMMISSIONERS? >> I WANT TO THANK COMMISSIONER SHELL FOR CLARIFYING THAT. I WAS STRUGGLING TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THE SEQUENCE OF EVENTS OF HOW ALL OF THIS TURNED OUT. THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING THAT
SO WE HAD OUR HISTORIC COMMISSION CHERRY SIGN -- CHAIR RESIGN. I FOUND OUT THROUGH THE GRAPEVINE. NEVERTHELESS, THE STATE STATUTE SAYS THAT I BECOME THE INTERIM CHAIR ONCE THE CHAIR RESIGNS.
IN THE MOMENT WHERE WE WERE PICKING OUR NEW APPOINTEES, FIVE PER COURT MEMBER, WE HAD ME AS INTERIM CHAIR.
THE SENSE OF YOU ARE -- THE SENSE OF URGENCY WAS CONVEYED.
I HAVE BEEN THE CHAIR OF THE PRESIDENT OF THE DOWNTOWN ASSOCIATION AND PRESIDENT OF -- ONE THING I KNOW IS HOW TO RUN A MEETING, ET CETERA. THERE ARE THINGS THAT WERE CONVEYED AS CRITICAL FOR THE HISTORICAL COMMISSION TO KEEP MOVING. I ASKED TO PUT OUT A NOTICE AS SOON AS POSSIBLE AND IN HER HASTE I WILL SAY SHE ACCIDENTALLY WROTE CLOSED MEETING WHICH IS TOTALLY AGAINST EVERYTHING IN MY FIBER AND BEING AND SHE APOLOGIZED PRODUCELY FOR WORDING IT CLOSED MEETING. SHE WOULDN'T WANT A CLOSED MEETING AND I WOULDN'T WANT A CLOSED MEETING.
WE RE-- REPOSTED AS THE CHAIR AND STATES MY DESIGNATED AUTHORITY BY THE STATE HISTORIC CHAIR STANDARDS TO CALL THE MEETING. THAT'S THE JOB OF THE CHAIR.
I CALLED THE MEETING AT THE VERY NEXT AVAILABLE AND THE ONLY REASON I WAS NOT GOING TO THE REGULARLY SCHEDULED WHICH WAS TWO DAYS OUT IS TWO-FOLD. THE FIRST PART WAS THE SENSE OF URGENCY WAS CONVEYED ABOUT WE NEED TO MEET QUICK AND THERE IS LOTS TO DO AND WE ARE HERE WITHOUT A MOVEMENT EVEN THOUGH WE APPOINTED A BODY. I SAID BECAUSE OF THAT SENSE OF URGENCY AND BECAUSE I AM OUT OF TOWN AT A CONFERENCE, I SAID LET'S HAVE THE MEETING AS SOON AS POSSIBLE WHICH LANDS ON A DATE THAT EVERYONE CAN MEET. THEY PUT OUT THE INFORMATION AND THIS IS A CENTRAL PLACE TO MEET, THE COURTHOUSE AND WE PUT IT OUT. I UNDERSTAND IT IS OUT OF PEOPLE'S CYCLES AND THEIR NORMS AND WHAT I DID WAS -- THERE WASN'T A QUORUM THERE. IT WAS SHORT A QUORUM.
I TOLD THEM -- I CHAIRED MANY BODIES.
I SAID I CAN'T OFFICIALLY CALL THIS MEETING, BUT WHAT I WOULD
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LIKE FOR YOU GUYS TO DO IS FROM THOSE THAT ARE HERE, CONSIDER VOLUNTEERING FOR LOOKING AT AND REVIEWING THE BY LAWS OF OUR LOCAL -- BECAUSE THERE IS A CONFUSION POTENTIAL OF HAYS COUNTY HISTORIC COMMISSION HAS ITS OWN SELF-CREATING B BI-LAWS AND THE STATE HISTORIC COMMISSION DOES NOT DEMAND THOSE OF US OR WHAT IT SHOULD LOOK LIKE.MY ONLY REQUEST TO THE GROUP OF VOLUNTEERS HERE IS TO SAY AMONG YOU GUYS HERE, THE ONLY THING I WANT TO SEE IS HAVING YOU GUYS OPEN IT UP AND LOOKING AT THE PARAGRAPHS OF THE HISTORIC COMMISSION BY LAWS TO BE MORE CONCLUSIVE.
THAT SEEMS MORE CONCLUSIVE WITH MY TONE AND TEMPERATURE.
BE MORE INCLUSIVE. I REFERENCED ONE ITEM IN THE BY LAWS OF OUR CURRENT HAYS COUNTY HISTORIC COMMISSION BILAWS.
THERE WERE SOME CONCERNS AND AN EXAMPLE IS JIMMY PARKER.
HE OWNS A COMPANY. HIS WIFE, LINDA PARKER IS LITERALLY THE ARTIST THAT HAS ALL OF THE HAND PAINTED ITEMS ON THE SECOND FLOOR OF THE ROTUNDA. THESE PEOPLE HAVE BEEN IN OUR COMMUNITY FOREVER. AND THEY ARE IN THEIR OLDER AGE.
THEY ARE IN THEIR 80S. THEY WANTED TO HAVE A CONTRIBUTION INTO THE HISTORIC COMMISSION THOUGHT PROCESS TO PROVIDE HIS FTOREK FOR HISTORIC CONTEXT.
THEY ARE IMPORTANT TO THEM BECAUSE THIS IS LITERALLY WHERE THEY RAISED THEIR FAMILY. I ASK THE VOLUNTEERS TO LOOK OVER THE MATERIAL FOR A FUTURE MEETING TO DISCUSS SOME SUGGESTED EDITS. THAT'S THE ONLY THING I ASKED.
IT WAS NOT A MOTION AND IT WAS NOT A CALLED MEETING.
AN EMAIL WENT OUT THAT WAS TYPICAL, MITT REPRESENTATIVE OF -- MISREPRESENTATIVE OF FACTS.
THAT WAS THE ONLY THING I MENTIONED ABOUT ANY POTENTIAL ACTION. THAT WAS THE REASON FOR IT AND I USED THE EXAMPLE OF JIMMY AND LINDA PARKER AS MY EXAMPLE.
SO WHAT I SAY IS THE MEETING THAT WAS CALLED BY MS. KNIGHT, HOWEVER IT HAS BEEN IN THE PAST, NOW REFERENCING THEIR OWN BI-LAWS AS THE CURRENT CHAIR OF THE HISTORIC COMMISSION IT WAS MY JOB TO CALL THE MEETING AND I DID.
THE MEETING SHE CALLED, IF YOU FOLLOW THE BILAWS YOU CAN'T SAY I WILL FOLLOW THEM NOW AND WILL FOLLOW THEM LATER.
IF YOU FOLLOW THE BILAWS I WAS SUPPOSED TO CALL THE MEETING.
I HAPPILY SAID I WILL FOLLOW YOUR CALENDAR OF YOUR REGULARLY-SCHEDULED MEETINGS AND WE WILL HAVE THE NEXT MEETING WHERE AND WHEN YOU GUYS HAVE HISTORICALLY MET AND THAT'S FINE WITH ME. NO PROBLEM.
THIS WAY I BELIEVE THE RIGHT TIME AND PLACE BY A CURRENT INTERIM CHAIR WHICH I DON'T CARY DIFFERENT SPACES AND I DON'T CARE TO TAKE OVER THE SPACE. BUT BY STATE STAT -- STATUTE I WANT TO TABLE THIS SO THE CURRENT CHAIR CAN CALL THE MEETING AT THE NEXT TIME AND NEXT PLACE OF STANDARD PROTOCOL SO THAT EVERYBODY CAN BE ON THE SAME PAGE AND START OFF ON THE RIGHT FOOT BECAUSE IT IS MY BELIEF THAT WE SHOULD NOT HAVE CALLED THAT MEETING THAT RESULTED IN THE SPLIT VOTES AND ULTIMATELY LANDED LINDA AS THE NOMINEE.
I WAS NEVER INVITED TO BE A PART OF THE SHAPING OF THE AGENDA.
I WAS NEVER INVITED TO THE MEETING.
SO AGAIN, AS STATE STATUTE CHAIR, I THINK THAT'S A BAD START FOR US AND I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE US WAIT FOR THE NEXT MEETING. NO ONE IS BEING STALLED.
WAIT FOR THE NEXT MEETING SO I CAN ATTEND AND PRESIDE AND WE CAN SHOVE OFF ON THIS PROVELY. PROPERLY.
>> JUDGE I KNOW YOU STATED YOU ARE THE CHAIR AND THE STATUTE HAS A SECTION CALLED APPOINTMENT BY STATE WHICH MEANS COUNTY JUDGE SERVING AS CHAIR IN THE INTERIM PERIOD.
THE UH POINTMENT BY BISECTION IS REFERENCED IN THE EVENT THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT FAILS TO APPOINT A COMMISSIONER APRIL 1ST OF EACH ODD NUMBERED YEAR THE TEXAS HIS STORE SKAL COMMISSION -- HISTORICAL COMMISSION NOTIFY ITS INTENT TO DOING SO. IT SAYS IF THE COURT DOES NOT APPOINT A HISTORIC COMMISSION BY APRIL 1, THE STATE OF TEXAS WILL SERVE A NOTICE THAT THEY WILL POTENTIALLY DO THAT THEMSELVES.
AND IN THAT EVENT THE COUNTY JUDGE WILL SERVE AS A COMMISSIONER CHAIR IN THE INTERIM PERIOD.
I DON'T SEE HOW ANY WRAEU WE WOULD INTERPRET INTERPRET THAT -- WE WOULD INTERPRET THAT TO MEAN IN THE EVENT THERE IS NOT A CHAIR OR IF A CHAIRPERSON RESIGN THAT'S THE COUNTY JUDGE BECOMES THE CHAIRPERSON OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
IT WOULD BE HANDLED WITHIN THE ACTUAL COMMISSION.
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FOR INSTANCE THE VICE CHAIR WOULD TAKE OVER IN THE EVENT A CHAIR RESIGNED AND THEN THE BODY WOULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR NAMING A NEW CHAIR. I THINK NORMAL PRACTICE WOULD BE SOME DEBATE OVER A CHICKEN AND THE EGG-TYPE THING.IF THE COMMISSION HASN'T BEEN APPOINTED WHICH WE WERE TRYING TO APPOINT. IN ANY OTHER BODY I HAVE BEEN A PART OF OR MADE APPOINTANCE TO A HELD OVER SO ANYONE THAT WAS ON THE COMMISSION WOULD REMAIN A COMMISSION MEMBER UNTIL REPLACED. SO EVEN IN THE EVENT MS. JOHNSON'S RESIGNATION OF THE CHAIR WAS INTENDED TO BE AS OF SAY DECEMBER 31ST OF 2022, THEN THEY WOULD STILL HAVE THE ABILITY TO CALL MEETINGS. OBVIOUSLY THE STATUTE IS NOT GOING TO GIVE US A STEP BY STEP THING ON EXACTLY HOW TO DO THAT.
BUT AS LONG AS THEY FOLLOW THE OPENS MEETING ACT THEY WOULD HAVE A VALID MEETING POSTED. IT WAS POSTED BY THE SECRETARY.
I DON'T SEE WHY -- I DON'T SEE HOW THE COUNTY JUDGE WOULD BE CONSIDERED THE CHAIR OF A BODY THAT'S BEEN APPOINTED BY OUR COURT. STHA*Z -- THAT'S WHERE MY
CONFUSION LIES. >> LET ME RESPOND AS SHORT AS I CAN BECAUSE I KNOW WE HAVE MORE ON THE AGENDA.
THE REFERENCING YOU JUST MADE, THE TEXAS HISTORIC COMMISSION WILL UH POINT A COMMISSION IF WE DON'T.
WE DON'T APPOINT A COMMISSION. THE COMMISSION HAS BEEN APPOINTED. THIS IS A QUESTION SPECIFICALLY ABOUT THE CHAIR. I BELIEVE THE UH -- APPOINTMENT OF THE TEXAS HISTORIC COMMISSION FOR THE COUNTY IS A MOOT POINT BECAUSE WE HAVE DONE THAT. WE ARE SPECIFICALLY AND MOST ARTICULATE -- ARTICULATING THE CHAIR PIECE, ALL I AM ASKING FOR, KPWHEUGSER -- COMMISSIONER, IS A PROPERLY REGULARLY-CALLED MEETING TO BE HELD BY THE CURRENT INTERIM CHAIR SO I CAN BOW OUT PROPERLY SO WE CAN FOLLOW PROTOCOLS THAT ARE IN MY OPINION STATE DELINEATED AND I AM HAPPY TO YIELD.
I WILL DO A U-TURN ON THE SPOT. THAT'S WHAT I FEEL THE PROCESS WE SHOULD FOLLOW AND I DON'T BELIEVE WE SHOULD FOLLOW A
MODIFIED PROTOCOL. >> I GUESS I AM JUST POINTING OUT THE REFERENCE TO COUNTY JUDGE SERVING AS THE CHAIR WITHIN A SECTION TITLED UH POINTMENT BY STATE.
YOU DON'T GET TO COPY AND PASTE THE STATUTE.
YOU HAVE TO TAKE THE STATUTE -- IF THERE IS A SECTION THAT SAYS APPOINTED BY STATE IT IS ANYTHING INVOLVED IN THAT SECTION IS REFERENCING TO THAT HAPPENING.
WE APPOINTED BEFORE APRIL 1ST SO THERE WOULD BE NO REASON FOR THE JUDGE TO SERVE AS A COMMISSION CHAIR.
I AM JUST SAYING THIS BECAUSE THERE ARE VOLUNTEERS AND THEY HAVE BEEN WAITING. THEY HAVE HAD THEIR MEETING.
THEY DO WHAT THEY DO. SO TO BE ABLE TO DO WHAT THEY DO AND I APPRECIATE THEM AND I APPRECIATE THE NEW MEMBERS.
WE HAVE NEW INTERESTS AND THAT'S GREAT.
THEY ARE GOING TO CONTINUE TO GET PEOPLE IN HISTORIC PRESERVATION ESPECIALLY IN HAYS COUNTY.
>> COMMISSIONER, I AGREE 100%. YOUR PERSPECTIVE IS RIGHT ON GETTING THEM TO DO WHAT THEY DO. AND THAT APPOINTMENT HAS CREATED THAT FOR THEM. THERE IS NOTHING HOLDING THEM UP WHEN WE APPOINTED THE BODY WE DID NOT CREATE THE CHAIR APPOINTMENT. THAT WAS THE ONLY THING THAT WAS MISSING AND THAT'S THE ONLY THING THAT'S LEFT.
SO HAVE THEM DO WHAT THEY DO. I AM HOPING TO MODIFY THAT A LITTLE BIT SO THEY CAN DO WHAT THEY DO A LITTLE DIFFERENTLY.
THAT'S ALL I'M ASKING. TO PRESIDE OVER THE NEXT MEETING AND NOMINATING THEIR CHAIR. IT IS A VERY LOW THRESHOLD IN MY OPINION. PRESIDE OVER THE NEXT MEETING AND GO THROUGH THE NOMINATION OF CHAIR AND AS SOON AS THEY PICK, I WILL BOW OUT. I JUST DON'T BELIEVE THAT BUSINESS AS USUAL IS THE RIGHT RECIPE.
I THINK WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SET IT RIGHT IN THE MOST USEFUL MATTER WITHOUT INSTALLING ANY VOLUNTEER WORK.
>> JUDGE, IF I MAY, SINCE THERE IS A QUESTION ON WHETHER OR NOT A MEETING WAS HELD AND COULD BEHELD, I WOULD LIKE TO JUST ASK MR. KENNEDY, IF YOU WOULD JUST MAYBE JUST HELP US MORE UNDERSTAND WHETHER OR NOT A MEETING WAS HILLED -- HELD AND
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POSTED PROPERLY TO BEHELD. >> THE OPEN MEETINGS ACT ASK THE GOVERNING BODIES HOLD THEM UP TO THE PUBLIC AND YOU PROVIDE NOTICE OF DATE IN THE HOUR AND THE PLACE WHERE THE MEETING WILL HAPPEN FOR 72 HOURS OR MORE AND YOU PROVIDE SPECIFICITY TO THE ACTIONS THAT ARE CONTEMPLATED. IT WAS PROVIDED AT THE GOVERNMENT CENTER AND ONLINE THA QUESTION OF SUBSTANTIAL COMPLIANCE. THE COURTS HAVE LOOKED AT WHETHER OR NOT THE OPENS MEETINGS ACT WAS MET IT IS A COMPLIANCE THAT THE COURT CONSIDERS.
WHEN I WAS CALLED ABOUT THIS AND ASKED SINCE THE POSTING AT THE GOVERNMENT CENTER WAS PREMATURELY TAKEN DOWN UNDER THE PREPL -- PREMISE THAT THE JUDGE IS AN INTERIM CHAIR AND REQUESTED IT BE TAKEN DOWN, I WAS ASKED IF THE POSTING REQUIREMENTS WAS SUFFICIENT AND I BELIEVE THEY ARE SINCE WE KNOW THAT THERE IS A POSTING ONLINE AND WE KNOW THERE IS A POSTING AT THIS COURTHOUSE AND THAT THOSE STAYED UP FOR THE FULL 72 HOURS. BECAUSE A QUORUM MET AFTER THE MET AND WITH THE SPECIFICITY IT WAS AN OPEN MEETING.
>> OKAY. AND THEN AS FAR AS THE QUESTION OF THE CHAIR OR THE INTERIM CHAIR CAN YOU GIVEN -- CAN YOU GIVE US CLARIFICATION ON THAT? I APPRECIATE COMMISSIONER SHELL SHARING WHAT HE DID. I DON'T HAVE THAT IN FRONT OF ME. I HAVE THE STATUTE OUT IN FRONT OF ME AND I CAN'T SEEM TO FIND. IT.
>> I'LL READ THE SECTION. IT IS 318.004.
IT IS ENTITLED UH POINTMENT BY STATE.
IT READS IT THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT FAILS TO APPOINT A COMMISSION BY APRIL 1 OF EACH ITEM NUMBERED HERE, THE TEXAS MISS STORE CAL COMMISSION MAY APPOINT THE COMMISSION WITHIN 30 DAYS WRITTEN NOTICE TO THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT OF ITS INTENTION TO DO SO. THE COUNTY JUDGE WILL SERVE AS COMMISSION CHAIR DURING ANY INTERIM PERIOD.
>> AND SO WHAT I WOULD OEU -- OPINE HERE IS THAT IT IS NOT THE JUDGE BEING ABLE TO SERVE AS INTERIM CHAIR, BUT BEING ABLE TO SERVE AS CHAIR IN AN INTERIM PERIOD.
THERE IS A DISTINCTION THERE. THE INTERIM PERIOD IS AFTER APRIL 1 IF THE COURT FAILS TO APPOINT THE BOARD.
WE WOULD BE IN AN INTERIM PERIOD IF THERE IS A FAILURE TO APPOINT. THE COMMISSION WOULD GIVE US 30- DAYS WRITTEN NOTICE. I ASSUME THE INTERIM PERIOD THEY ARE REFERENCING IS BETWEEN OUR FAILURE TO DO SO AND WHEN THEY ACTUALLY BOTHER TO APPOINT WHICH I DON'T KNOW WHEN THAT WOULD BE.
I HAVE NEVER SEEN -- I DON'T KNOW OF AN INCIDENT WHEN THE COUNTY FAILED TO DO THIS. IT WOULD BE 45, 60, 90 DAYS, SOMETHING LIKE THAT THAT WOULD HAPPEN FROM APRIL 1 UNTIL THEY
BOTHER TO APPOINT. >> BUT I BELIEVE THE WORD ANY IS IN THERE DELIBERATELY. IF THERE IS ANY GAP -- ANY GAP IN THE CHAIR FROM WHEN THE CHERRY SIGNS THE COUNTY JUDGE IS THE INTERIM CHAIR. ALL I AM TRYING TO DO IS CALL A MEETING TO APPOINT A NEW CHAIR AND BOW OUT.
>> I THINK -- JUST AS I'M TRYING TO WRAP MY MIND AROUND HOW THIS HAS BECOME SO COMPLICATED, YOU KNOW -- I UNDERSTAND THAT WHEN WE FIRST HAD THAT -- HAD A MEETING TO UH POINT AND -- TO APPOINT AND WE POSTPONED TO GIVE PEOPLE TIME TO APPOINT THEIR OWN MR. BACERRA WAS THE INTERIM CHAIR BECAUSE THE COMMISSION HAD NOT BEEN FULLY APPOINTED. TACT LEGAL SAYS THAT WHILE WE HAD AUGUST 31ST COMMISSIONER'S COURT AND WE APPOINTED EVERYONE OFFICIALLY IT MADE HIS INTERIM TERM ENDED ON THE 31ST. AND FROM THAT POINT THEY WERE ABLE TO HOLD THEIR MEETING AND AND THAT'S HOW THE EVENTS HAVE
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UNFOLDED NOW. RIGHT NOW IT LOOKS LIKE LINDA KOKER IS THE CHAIR GOING FORWARD.>> LINDA KOKER IS THE NOMINATED CHAIR AND COULD BE CONFIRMED AND APPOINTED BY THIS COURT TODAY WHICH IS HOW THE BY LAWS READ.
BYLAWS READ. IF SOMEBODY BELIEVES THERE WAS A POINT IN JANUARY WHEN THE JUDGE WAS THE INTERIM CHAIR, I AM NOT CERTAIN I TKPWREU WITH THE OPINION -- AGREE WITH THE OPINION. BUT MY ANSWER I GAVE IN JANUARY WHEN ASKED WAS I DON'T BELIEVE WE NEED TO INTERPRET THE LAW ON THAT MATTER BECAUSE THE COURT WAS BUSY IN APPOINTING MEMBERS.
IT WAS A NONISSUE AT THE TIME. IF THERE IS A GAP BETWEEN THE RESIGNATION OF K JOHNSON AND WHEN A NEW CHAIR IS TAKING THE SEAT IT IS MOVED. IT TURNED OUT TO BE THE BOARD AND THEY CAN RECOMMEND THE CHAIR.
>> AND SO THE ONLY PIECE, COMMISSIONER, ON YOUR STORY LINE IS PERFECTLY FINE AND I'M HAPPY TO YIELD AS THE INTERIM CHAIR.
BUT I GOT TO CALL THE FIRST MEETING.
IF -- WHO WILL RUN THE FIRST MEETING, RIGHT? THERE IS 25 PEOPLE IN A ROOM. IT IS A CONTINUATION OF YOUR THOUGHT. INTERIM CHAIR, NO PROBLEM.
WE GREAT. I CALLED US ALL TO MEET AND THEN WE MEET AND NOMINATE A CHAIR. I HAVE DONE THIS A BUNCH OF TIMES. WE NOMINATE A CHAIR FROM THE FLOOR AND I COULD EASILY YIELD THE REST OF THAT MEETING UNTIL THAT PERSON GETS OFFICIALLY VOTED ON HERE.
SOMEONE NEEDS TO RUN THE MEETING.
IT MAKES SENSE THAT THE INTERIM WOULD RUN THAT NEXT MEETING AND THEN BOW OUT. THAT'S ALL I'M TRYING TO DO.
I AM NOT TRYING TO RUN THE COMMISSION.
>> JUDGE I REACHED OUT TO TAC AND I GOT THE SAME ANSWER.
FURTHERING THAT CONVERSATION MY CONVERSATION IT WAS SIMILAR TO WHAT WE HAD IN COURT WHEN WE DID THE FIRST APPOINTMENT.
I ASKED ABOUT THE CARRY OVER PROVISIONS.
I DON'T KNOW IF I SPOKE TO THEM BEFORE OR AFTER YOU DID AND I DON'T KNOW IF YOU SPOKE TO MR. BASS OR WHO YOU SPOKE TO.
WHAT I WILL TELL YOU IS THEY WERE IN COMPLETE AGREEMENT WITH WHAT YOU SAID. THAT INTERPRETATION UNTIL I CAME UP WITH THE HOLDOVER QUESTION. AND AT THAT POINT IT WAS LET'S MOVE. I SAID WHAT DO YOU MEAN? THEY SAID YOU HAVE APPOINTED 25 MEMBERS.
BY STATUTE OUT YOUR JOB IS DONE UNTIL THEY GIVE YOU A NOMINEE.
AND SO I SAID WELL, OKAY. AT THAT POINT WHO IS THE INTERIM CHAIR? THEY SAID THERE ISN'T ONE.
THE WAY THE STATUTE OUT IS WRITTEN ONCE YOU HAVE A FULL HISTORICAL COMMISSION THEY WILL BRING YOU A NOMINATION AND THAT'S THE ONLY OTHER INTERACTION WE HAVE WITH THE BODY. I BELIEVE THAT IS WHAT HAPPENED TODAY. I WOULD SAY THE MEETING THAT WAS CALLED LAST THURSDAY LOOKING AT THE ATTENDEES, THERE IS ACTUALLY I BELIEVE A MAJORITY OF EACH OF OUR APPOINTEES AT THAT MEETING.
SO AT LEAST THREE -- I WOULD SAY AT LEAST THREE MEMBERS WHICH WE NOMINATED FROM EACH INDIVIDUAL MEMBER OF THE COURT WERE THERE.
TH*E -- THEY REACHED THE THRESHOLD AND FAR SURPASSED IT.
THERE WAS AN ABILITY FOR THE VAST MAJORITY OF THOSE MEMBERS TO VOTE ON WHO THE CHAIRMANSHIP WAS.
I GOT THE NOTIFICATION AND -- WAS IT SENT TO THE COURT IN ITS ENTIRETY? AND SO ALL OF US AS MEMBERS OF THE COURT GOT THE NOTIFICATION OF THAT ON OUR COUNTY EMAILS.
I THINK THEY HAVE DONE A GOOD JOB OF EXECUTING WHAT THE STATUTE HAS ASKED FOR AND BRINGING US A NOMINEE FROM THE MEMBERSHIP WHICH EVIDENTLY IT WAS A SPIRITED ELECTION.
THERE WAS AT LEAST THREE PEOPLE WHO VIED FOR THE POSITION.
THEY HAD TO HAVE TWO VOTES. THAT TELLS ME THERE IS A DEFINITE RENEWED INTEREST AMONG THE MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION.
I AM EXCITED FOR THEM TO GET TO WORK.
I THINK THIS IS THE FINAL STAGE IN GETTING THAT DONE.
>> IT IS. AND WE ARE ALMOST THERE.
MAY I ASK MS. KOKER TO APPROACH THE PODIUM? ALMOST FINISHED AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE.
IF YOU WILL STATE YOUR NAME AND TITLE FOR THE VIEWING PUBLIC.
>> LINDA KOKER AND WHAT ELSE? >> TITLE.
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>> COURTHOUSE COORDINATOR IS MY HOLD OVERTITLE.
>> COURTHOUSE COORDINATOR IN CHARGE OF THE MUSEUM, RIGHT?
>> COURTHOUSE, MUSEUM -- >> MY SINGULAR REQUEST HAS BEEN TO FOLLOW THE STATE STATUTE FROM THE WAY I HAVE BEEN TOLD ABOUT IT AND THE WAY IT HAS BEEN GIVEN TO ME BY LEGAL MINDS WHICH I AM NIGHT -- WHICH I AM NOT. I THINK WE ARE SPLITTING HAIRS AND I SEE THE CHAIR, AND KNOW IT.
I BELIEVE THE PRINCIPAL OF THE MATTER IS MY ONLY AIM IS NOT TO PUSH YOU OFF. I THINK YOU ARE A WONDERFUL PERSON. YOU KNOW I AM BEING TRUTHFUL.
MY AIM IS TO SING -- SINGULAR REAS INTERIM CHAIR IS TO CALL THE MEETING, REGULAR PLACE, REGULAR TIME AND PRESIDE OVER IT AND HAVE THAT ROLL CALL AND THEN HAVE THAT OFFICIAL YIELDING OUT OF MYSELF. FIRST QUESTION TO YOU IS WOULD
THAT BE A PROBLEM TO YOUR EYES? >> THE PROBLEM WOULD BE THAT IF -- NO ONE ELSE WILL BE A CHAIR UNTIL THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT -- UNTIL THE COURT UH POINTS THEM.
APPOINTS THEM. YOU COULD BOW OUT OF THE MEETING ALL DAY LONG AND THERE WOULD NOT BE ANOTHER CHAIR.
>> OKAY. AND TPHEPB -- AND THEN THE NEXT QUESTION IS HOW ABOUT THE REASON THESE FRICTION POINTS HAVE COME IS BECAUSE -- NO BETTER WAY TO SAY T A LACK -- A LACK OF THE REPRESENTATION IN THE COUNTY MUSEUM SPACES.
WHAT WILL YOU AS A FUTURE CHAIR DO TO CORRECT THAT?
>> WELL, I DON'T UNDERSTAND YOUR QUESTION.
I COULD NEVER SAY IT THE HALL IS DOWN THERE.
>> I CAN CLARIFY MY QUESTION SINCE YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND IT.
INSIDE OUR HISTORIC COMMISSION, RIGHT BELOW US THE HAYS COUNTY MUSEUM, WHAT WE CALL OUR MUSEUM, THERE SEEMS TO BE NO MINORITIES IN THE MUSEUM. IS THAT ACCURATE?
>> NO, SIR. THAT'S NOT ACCURATE.
>> INSIDE THAT MUSEUM -- CAN YOU TELL ME SINCE YOU ARE THE CURATOR, CAN YOU TELL ME WHAT MINORITIES ARE REFERENCED IN THE
MUSEUM? >> IN THE EDUCATION DISPLAY, THE
AFRICAN-AMERICAN -- >> THE EDUCATION DISPLAY, IS
THAT IN THE MUSEUM? >> YES, SIR.
THE MUSEUM -- WHEN WE CREATED THE MUSEUM WE WERE GIVEN A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME TO DO SOMETHING TO SNAG THE SPOT, BASICALLY.
AND WE GRABBED WHAT WE COULD AND WHAT WE HAD AVAILABLE.
AND VERY LITTLE WAS DONE SINCE THEN BECAUSE THERE IS NOT THE FUNDING FOR IT. THE FUNDING WE HAD WE HAVE DONE THE JAIL AND WE HAVE DONE OTHER THINGS AND THE MUSEUM HASN'T
CHANGED IN 10 YEARS. >> AND THAT'S PART OF THE REASON FOR THE FRICTION AND I WANTED YOU TO KNOW THAT.
>> WE HAVE -- WE HAVE HAD COMMITTEES THAT WERE OFFERED THAT OPPORTUNITY AND THEY HAVE CHOSEN TO USE THE ROTUNDA AS THEIR DISPLACE CASES INSTEAD OF THE MUSEUM ITSELF.
ESPECIALLY BECAUSE OF COVID THE MUSEUM WASN'T OPEN FOR A LONGTIME. THE MUSEUM NEEDS A SERIOUS UPDATE. WE KNOW THAT AND IT HAS BEEN DISCUSSED. AND IT WILL HAPPEN.
AT THIS POINT THAT'S NOT REALLY THE ISSUE.
THE ISSUE TODAY IS -- THE INTERIM CHAIR ISSUE AND THE PROBLEM. I DON'T MEAN ANY DISRESPECT AT ALL, BUT THE PROBLEM IS LEGALLY ARE YOU THE INTERIM CHAIR?
SOME OF US DON'T BELIEVE THAT. >> THANK YOU.
I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT. MR. KENNEDY, I KNOW WE CAN CALL THE VOTE NOW IF EVERYONE IS DONE.
AM I RIGHT? ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS?
>> I DO. BECAUSE IT IS IMPORTANT TO ME, I KNOW THAT IT WAS MENTIONED THAT A MAJORITY OF INDIVIDUALS FROM EACH PRECINCT WERE THERE. CAN YOU -- OTHERS MAY NOT WANT TO KNOW, BUT CAN YOU TELL ME WHO WAS THERE DURING THAT MEETING
WHERE THE VOTES WERE TAKEN? >> THE SECRETARY OF HERE.
THAT'S PERFECT. >> DO YOU HAVE THAT INFORMATION,
LET'S JUST SEE IF THE SECRETARY HAS ANY MEMORY RECALL.
MY NAME IS LILA NYE. I HAVE BEEN SORT OF THE HOLD
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OVERSECRETARY. HOLD SKWRAFR -- HOLDOVER SECRETARY. I WOULD LOVE TO RESIGN.IT IS A LOT OF WORK. I WILL GO THROUGH WHAT I CAN RECALL. OBVIOUSLY LINDA KOKER WAS THERE.
HUGH GIBSON. RYAN PATRICK-PERKINS BECAUSE THEY WERE OUR NOMINEES. AND ALSO I WAS THERE AS SECRETARY AND ROSINA WAS THERE. PREVIOUSLY SHE WAS OUR VICE CHAIR AND ACCORDING TO THE BY LAWS IN ABSENCE OF THE CHAIRMAN, THE VICE CHAIRMAN TAKES OVER FOR THE MEETINGS.
SO SHE WAS RUNNING THE MEETING. IN FACT, SHE WAS THE ONE WHO DID THE AGENDA. WE TALKED ABOUT IT.
IT WASN'T UNDER MY AUTHORITY THAT THE AGENDA WAS POSTED.
ROBERT RIZZO WAS THERE. SOME OF THESE PEOPLE I DON'T KNOW WELL. NICHOLAS CASTILLO OR COSTILLA, I AM NOT REALLY SURE HOW IT IS SPELLED.
AND THEN CINDY MEYER, WERE THEY THERE? WE HAD REGULARS, DELBERT, BASSEM DOING THIS.
MARI BASSET. JERRY GARROW WAS THERE.
>> I DON'T MEAN TO INTERRUPT YOU, BUT I THINK BECAUSE I ASKED FOR THAT SAME INFORMATION AFTER THE MEETING I HAVE A COMPLETE LIST HERE. I CAN READ IT TO YOU IF THAT
MAKES LIFE EASIER. >> ANITA COLLINS WAS THERE, BUT SHE SAYS SHE WAS PRESENT AND NOT PARTICIPATING.
>> I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY, AS THE SECRETARY I WOULD LIKE TO LET HER FINISH HER NOTES AND WHAT WE USE TO DEPEND ON.
IF YOU DON'T MIND FINISHING THAT WOULD BE GREAT.
THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER. >> YOU WANT ME TO CONTINUE WITH
MY NAMES? >> I WOULD LIKE FOR YOU TO CONTINUE WITH YOUR COVERAGE AS THE SECRETARY OF THAT MEETING.
>> WELL, I MEAN I'M TELLING YOU WHO I CAN REMEMBER WAS IN THE
THEY ARE ACTUALLY IN THE MINUTES.
>> YEAH. I HAVE DONE THE MINUTES.
IN THE MINUTES WE DID A REGULAR THIN -- REGULAR THING AND DID THE ROLL CALL. I ALWAYS KEEP A SHEET OF PAPER WHERE I CAN PUT CHECKS OR X'S BY THEIR NAMES DETERMINING IF THEY WERE THERE OR NOT. AND WE HAD A QUORUM.
WE DID FLOAT APPROVE THE MINUTES FROM THE MEETING OF FRIDAY FEBRUARY SEVENTH -- NO. I AM I AM NOT SURE WHAT DATE IT WAS. IT WAS THE PREVIOUS FRIDAY BECAUSE WE DIDN'T HAVE THEM. SO WE JUST POSTPONED THOSE.
WE TOOK NOMINATIONS FROM THE FLOOR.
>> [INAUDIBLE]. >> OH I DID THAT.
BECAUSE OF ALL OF THE AGENDAS RECENTLY THAT EVERYONE BE CONSIDERED EXCUSED FROM THIS PARTICULAR MEETING.
BECAUSE WE USUALLY DO THAT. IN THE BY LAWS IF YOU HAVE THREE UN UNEXCUSED MEETINGS IF A YEAR THAT CAN BE A REASON TO REMOVE YOU FROM THE COMMISSION. AND THAT VOTE WAS UNANIMOUS.
SOMEBODY MADE A MOTION OF THE NOMINATIONS.
WE TOOK NOMINATIONS FROM THE FLOOR.
I NOMINATED ROSITA, BUT SHE DECLINED FROM THE NOMINATION.
AND THEN WE DID A ROUND OF VOTES.
MR. GIBSON IS ALSO SITTING HERE TODAY.
AND RYAN WAS THE THIRD ONE. AND SO HE DROPPED OUT.
BY THE WAY, RYAN VOTED TWICE FOR HOOT.
AND ALL OF THE VOTES WERE RECORDED BY VOICE.
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THERE WERE NO SECRET BALLOTS ALLOWED.EVERYONE HAD TO JUST COME OUT WITH HOW YOU FELT.
THE VOTING WAS DONE AND WE WERE GETTING READY TO ADJOURN.
DELBERT BASSET MADE A STATEMENT RELAYING THE CONVERSATION HE HAD WITH AN ATTORNEY AT THE OPEN MEETINGS DIVISION OF THE ATTORNEY GENERAL'S OFFICE. OR IS THAT SECRETARY OF STATE? HE CAME BACK AND CORRECTED IT. IT IS IN THE MINUTES.
>> THANK YOU, MA'AM. COMMISSIONER, DID YOU GET YOUR
QUESTION ANSWERED? >> I'M NOT SURE THAT ALL OF THEM WERE MENTIONED, BUT COMMISSIONER , IF YOU HAVE THE
LIST I WOULD LIKE TO -- >> SURE.
FROM THE DRAFT MINUTES THOSE THAT WERE ABSENT WERE MR. ARREDANDO, MS. BAMBURY, IRMA GATON, FAITH HASKINS AND URIBE. PRESENT WERE CYNTHIA ALLISON, DELBERT BASSET, MARIE BASSET, NICO CASTILLO, ANTHONY DAVIS, JOHNNY FLOREZ, ROBERT FRIZEL, HOOT GIBSON, JAMES HERBERT, KATE JOHNSON AS A MEMBER, LILA KNIGHT, AND JOE LANDON AND CINDY MEYER AND RALPH MEYER AND RYAN PATRICK-PERKINS AND SALLY RAMIREZ, ROBERT RIZZO AND ROSINA AND THERE WERE ALSO THREE CITIZENS PRESENT. JOE RAMIREZ, SUSAN RAYNA AND KH*EF -- CHIEF OF STAT VIA LOBOS.
>> AND SUSAN HAD CITIZENS COMMENTS.
I FORGOT ABOUT THAT. >> THANK YOU.
THREE OF MY MEMBERS WERE THERE. >> OKAY.
YES. AND IT LOOKS LIKE FROM THE ATTENDANCE IT LOOKS LIKE A MAJORITY OF EACH OF THE APPOINTEES FROM EACH MEMBER OF THE COURT WERE THERE.
>> AND I KNOW JUST FROM FACEBOOK THAT [INAUDIBLE] HAD A DUNBAR HERITAGE ASSOCIATION MEETING AND I THINK FRANK ARREDANDO HAD A
MEETING. >> JUDGE, THE ONLY OTHER THING I WOULD SAY AND I GUESS IT IS IN REFERENCE A LITTLE BIT TO WHAT YOU MENTIONED. IT IS GOING TO BE IMPORTANT TO HIGHLIGHT THE CULTURES AND THE HISTORIES THAT ARE HA*EUSZ COUNTY -- THAT HAYS COUNTY REPRESENTS.
SO I HOPE THAT WE CAN ALL WORK TOGETHER TO ENSURE THAT -- YOU KNOW IT IS IMPORTANT THAT WE DO THAT.
I THINK WE HAVE LACKED A LITTLE BIT IN THE HIS -- IN THE HISPANIC HISTORY. I AM HAPPY TO HELP IN ANYWAY I CAN TO ENSURE THAT THAT MOVES FORWARD.
I AM NOT SAYING THAT IT WAS DONE PURPOSELY OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
LET'S WORK TOGETHER TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE THE REPRESENTATION THAT HAYS COUNTY HAS THAT WE ENSURE THAT WE MOVE FORWARD.
>> CAN WE HAVE MORE FUNDING FOR THAT?
>> [INAUDIBLE]. >> AND IS THERE FINAL BEFORE WE
CALL THE VOTE? >> I JUST WANT TO ABSOLUTELY AGREE WITH THE STATEMENT OF COMMISSIONER INGALSBE AND SAY THAT WHILE WE ARE PUTTING A LARGE OWE NUSS ON THE HISTORICAL COMMISSION TO MAKE CHANGES IN THAT AREA SHOULD THEY BE NEEDED THAT IT ALSO FALLS TO US. WE BEAR A LOT OF THAT RESPONSIBILITY BECAUSE THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS 20% OF THE PEOPLE WHO WERE ON THAT COMMISSION I'M RESPONSIBLE FOR AND 20% YOU ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR AND EVERY ONE OF US.
IF WE WANT TO HAVE MORE REPRESENTATION, IT IS PURSUANT TO US TO MAKE THE APPOINTMENTS AND I CAN TELL YOU THAT'S WHAT I DID IF YOU LOOK AT THE APPOINTMENTS I DID AND I KNOW YOU PROBABLY TOOK THAT INTO CONSIDERATION AS WELL.
BUT IN ALL FAIRNESS TO THE COMMISSION, IF WE WANT THEM TO CHANGE IN CERTAIN AREAS, THAT'S ALSO ON US.
I APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS. >> THERE ARE OTHER GROUPS I THINK THAT CAN SEE THAT WAS ESTABLISH -- ESTABLISHED.
I KNOW THEY HAVE DONE A LOT OF GOOD WORK AND COORDINATING WITH THEM, AND I KNOW YOU HAVE BEEN, BUT THE COOPERATED -- CONTINUED
COORDINATION WILL BE IMPORTANT. >> [INAUDIBLE].
ALSO I I WAS EARLIER GLORIA SALAZAR SENT AN EMAIL TO YOU
SUPPORTING ME [INAUDIBLE]. >> THANK YOU, MA'AM.
>> MR. KENNEDY AS A FINAL PIECE FROM ME, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE CHAIR PIECE AS A CRITICAL PIECE OF MY THOUGHT PROCESS AND GET IT
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RIGHT AS A CHAIR OF THE COURT. I WOULD LIKE AN AG OPINION ON ONE SLICE AND I CAN CLARIFY AGAIN FURTHER IN THE FUTURE.>> I CANNOT BECAUSE I AM NOT ALLOWED TO ASK FOR AN AG OPINION, BUT I WILL SEE IF WE CAN GET AN AUTHORIZED REQUESTERS
PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. >> COMMISSIONER INGALSBE.
>> YES. >> COMMISSIONER COHEN.
>> YES. >> COMMISSIONER SHELL.
>> YES. >> COMMISSIONER SMITH.
>> NO. AND SO I HAVE BEEN ASKED TO PULL THIS ITEM INTO OPEN COURT, SO WILL YOU PLEASE OPEN THE FIRST
EXECUTIVE SESSION ITEM. >> WE HAVE SUBDIVISIONS.
>> WE WILL HAVE TO HOLD. >> CAN WE -- JUDGE, WE HAD ONE PERSON HERE FOR ONE OF THOSE ITEMS.
>> WHICH ONE? >> THE -- I'M SORRY.
LET ME LOOK AT THE NUMBER. IT IS NUMBER 1.
[J1. PLN-1962-NP; Discussion and possible action regarding the Anthem North, Phase 1 N, Preliminary Plan (aka Freedom Subdivision). SMITH/PACHECO]
J1. >> J1, PLN-1962-NP, DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION REGARDING THE ANTHEM NORTH, PHASE 1N, PRELIMINARY PLAN, ALSO KNOWN AS FREEDOM SUBDIVISION.
>> YEAH. GOOD AFTERNOON, JUDGE.
I WILL MAKE THIS REAL QUICK. THE ANTHEM PHASE 1 PRELIMINARY PLAN AKA FREEDOM SUBDIVISION IS A PROPOSED SUBDIVISION CONSISTING OF APPROXIMATELY 30 SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL LOTS AND TWO CONDOMINIUM LOTS THAT WILL HAVE MANY UNITS AND ONE LIST STATION AND SEVEN OPEN SPACE LAWS.
WATER AND WASTE WATER WILL BE ACCOMPLISHED THROUGH THE CITY OF KYLE, PARDON ME, AND THERE ARE NO VARIANCES REQUESTED AND STAFR REVIEW COMMENTS WITH THIS PRELIMINARY PLAN SO STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE PRELIMINARY PLAN.
>> OKAY. >> I'M JUST GLAD -- I WANTED TO COMMENT THAT USUALLY WE HAVE THESE WITH CAVEATS AND THESE DON'T HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS SO THAT'S GREAT.
>> BEAUTIFUL AND THANK YOU. PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.
>> COMMISSIONER COHEN. >> YES.
>> COMMISSIONER SHELL. >> YES.
>> COMMISSIONER SMITH. >> YES.
>> COMMISSIONER INGALSBE. >> YES.
[K1. Discussion and possible action to authorize the Information Technology Director to execute equipment quotes for ordering new or replacement Cradlepoint devices through Axon Enterprise, Inc. INGALSBE/McGILL]
>> LET'S GET ANOTHER DEPARTMENT HEAD OUT OF THE WAY.
K1. >> DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO AUTHORIZE THE INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY DIRECTOR TO EXECUTE EQUIPMENT QUOTES FOR ORDERING NEW OR REPLACEMENT CRADLE POINT DEVICES THROUGH AXON ENTERPRISES.
>> MR. MIGUEL. >> GOOD AFTERNOON.
INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY DIRECTOR. ON JANUARY 17TH *RBGS WE HAD --S EXACT SAME ITEM ON THE AGENDA TO ALLOW ME TO SIGN THE QUOTES FOR THE CREDIT POINT DEVICES FROM RCA.
THIS IS JUST AUTHORIZING THAT WE USE AXON SO WE CAN GET THE BEST PRICING. JUST TO RECAP, THE CREDIT POINT DEVICES REQUIRE EVEN FOR VOTES ON THE ITEM WE HAVE TO HAVE THE QUOTE SIGNED AND SENT BACK BEFORE THEY ALLOW US TO PURCHASE IT. THIS JUST SPEEDS UP THE PROCESS
OF INVESTIGATING QUOTES. >> THANK YOU, MR. MIGUEL.
EVERY TIME I REACH OUT TO YOU, YOU ARE EXCEPTIONALLY RECEPTIVE AND EXCEPTIONALLY IN TUNED AND I AM GRATEFUL FOR YOUR DECADES OF SERVICE TO OUR COMMUNITY, OUR COUNTY AND EVERYONE AS A WHOLE.
EVERYTHING YOU ASKED FOR IS CONSCIENTIOUSLY DONE AND I AM THANKING YOU PUBLICLY ONE MORE TIME FOR THAT.
COMMISSIONERS? >> THANK YOU, JUDGE.
>> PLEASE CALL THE ROLE. >> COMMISSIONER SHELL?
>> YES. >> COMMISSIONER INGALSBE.
>> YES. >> COMMISSIONER SMITH.
>> YES. >> COMMISSIONER COHEN.
[L1. Executive Session pursuant to Sections 551.071 and 551.074 of the Texas Government Code: consultation with counsel and deliberation regarding employment and duties of all individual positions within the office of Hays County Human Resources. Possible discussion and/or action may follow in open court.]
>> YES. >> AND NOW LET'S GO AHEAD AND OPEN THAT FIRST ITEM FROM THE EXECUTIVE SESSION.
I WAS ASKED TO OPEN THIS IN OPEN COURT.
>> L1, EXECUTIVE SESSION PURSUANT TO SECTIONS 551.071 AND 551.074 OF THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE, CONSULTATION WITH COUNSEL AND DELIBERATION REGARDING EMPLOYMENT AND DUTIES OF ALL INDIVIDUAL POSITIONS WITHIN THE OFFICE OF HAYS COUNTY HUMAN RESOURCES. POSSIBLE DISCUSSION AND/OR
ACTION MAY FOLLOW IN OPEN COURT. >> ALL RIGHT.
SO LET ME SEE. IS THERE A PHOEBGS TO OPEN -- IS
THERE A MOTION TO OPEN IT? >> MR. KENNEDY?
>> I BELIEVE YOU JUST OPENED IT. >> JUST MAKING SURE.
>> I AM -- I HANDED YOU EARLIER A SERVING -- [INAUDIBLE].
LAY THE GROUNDWORK OF THE CONVERSATION.
>> OKAY. HAYS COUNTY EMPLOYEES HAVE BEEN
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WAITING MONTHS FOR PROMISES OF A PAY RAISE AFTER SALARY SURVEY CONDUCTED BY MANAGEMENT ADVISORY GROUP MAG, WAS PROMISED LATE LAST FALL. SHERRY MILLER, THE HUMAN RESOURCES DIRECTOR REPORTED TO TKPHEUGSER'S COURT -- COMMISSIONER'S COURT THAT THE SALARY SURVEY WOULD BE FINAL HRAOEUDZ -- FINALIZED AT A MINIMUM.SEE THE COMMISSIONER COURT VIDEO FOR AGENDA ITEM K1 AT THE 2 MINUTE TW 44-SECOND MARK. WHEN PRESSED FOR A COPY OF THE REPORT SUBMITTED BY MAG THEY ALTERED THE GOVERNMENT DOCUMENT SUBMITTED BY THE COUNTY TO MASK THE DATE DECEMBER 6TH, 2022, THE ACTUAL DATE IT WAS RECEIVED SO THE COUNTY JUDGE WOULD NOT KNOW THAT IT HAD BEEN HELD FOR SEVERAL WEEKS.
SEE ATTACHED. WHEN A HUMAN RESOURCES EMPLOYEE AMANDA COHEN BLEW THE WHISTLE AND REPORTED IT TO THE COUNTY JUDGE, THAT EMPLOYEE WAS IMMEDIATELY TERMINATED AND THEN MILLER MODIFIED OR FALSIFIED HER TIME SHEET WITHOUT MS. COHEN'S CONSENT. MS. COHEN WOULD NOT CERTIFY THE COMMISSION THAT STATES, I CERTIFIED -- CERTIFY THIS TIME SHEET IS CREW AND CORRECT. CLICKING SUBMIT ACTS AS AN ELECTRONIC SIGNATURE PER TEXAS PEPBL CODE 37.10, FALSIFYING THIS DOCUMENT CAN BE PUNISHABLE BY UP TO TWO YEARS IN A STATE JAIL AND/OR A FINE OF UP TO $10,000 BY CERTIFYING A FALSE TIME SHEET COHEN FELT SHE WOULD HAVE BEEN FINED OR BREAKING THE LAW AS IT SUBMITS -- READS WHEN ONE SUBMITS A TIME SHEET.
PRESENT TODAY ARE ALSO THE HAYS COUNTY TREASURER'S OFFICE AND HAYS COUNTY DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE WHO WILL BRIEFLY DESCRIBE SEVERAL ADDITIONAL ISSUES THEY WILL PRESENT.
>> JUST FOR YOUR -- -- >> JUST FOR CLARIFICATION THAT
IS A STATEMENT BY YOU, JUDGE? >> THAT IS ME RECAPPING MY
AGENDA ITEM. >> I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY.
>> I WILL GIVE YOU THE LAY OF THE LAND.
I HAVE GIVEN UH FEW PIECE THAT'S YOU -- A FEW PIECE THAT'S YOU HEARD ABOUT AS FACTUAL DOCUMENTS AND CONFIRMING EVERYTHING I SAID. NO SPECULATION.
NO HEAR SAY. THESE ARE COUNTY EMPLOYEE CONCERNS BROUGHT TO ME AND AS ALL CONCERNS WHETHER THEY BE ANYTHING ELSE, MY JOB IS TO ADDRESS THEM.
IT IS VERY IMPORTANT THAT WE HANDLE THESE MATTERS IN THE MOST COMPLETE WAY POSSIBLE. I HAVE AUDITED AND VERIFIED AND CONFIRMED AND THEN GONE THROUGH OTHER DEPARTMENT HEADS AND ELECTED OFFICIALS TO TRY AN TKPAOU LATE -- TO TRY AN TKPWAOU LATE INFORMATION. I HAVE TESTIMONY AND I PROVIDED ALL OF THIS AND THERE IS MORE STILL AVAILABLE TO YOU FOR WHAT YOU JUST HEARD AND WHAT YOU ARE ABOUT TO HEAR.
>> JUDGE, I WOULD MAKE NOTE WHAT YOU JUST GAVE US, WE JUST SAW, I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY WITH GENERAL COUNSEL.
THAT THIS IS NOT -- OR IT CANNOT BE USED FOR PUBLIC CONSUMPTION.
AND THE REASON I SAY THAT IS THERE ARE ITEMS THAT WOULD HAVE
TO BE REDACTED. >> OUR GENERAL COUNSEL NO IS WITH ANY REQUEST TO REDACT ANY PERSONAL INFORMATION.
THANK YOU FOR POINTING THAT OUT AND THAT IS EXACTLY -- I THOUGHT ABOUT THIS VERY CAREFULLY BECAUSE I WAS ASKED TO PUT IT IN OPEN COURT. IT WAS GOING TO BE IN EXECUTIVE SESSION. I SAID I CAN PROVIDE THE INFORMATION AND IF THE PUBLIC ASKS FOR SOMETHING SPECIFICALLY IT CAN BE REDACTED. OUR TREASURER IS GOING TO PROVIDE SOME ADDITIONAL INFORMATION.
IT IS FOLLOWED BY OUR D.A.'S OFFICE AND THEN MAYBE ANOTHER ELECTED OFFICE. I MEAN, THERE ARE PLENTY.
>> HAVE I SOME -- I HAVE ADDITIONAL INFORMATION, SOME
SUPPLEMENTAL INFORMATION. >> CAN YOU HELP HAND THAT OUT,
PLEASE? >> YOU HAVE RECEIVED TWO PACKETS. THE FIRST PACKET IS BOUND LIKE THIS. YOU WILL BE RECEIVING THE
SECONDARY PACKET. >> HE ONLY GOT ONE PACKET RIGHT
THESE ARE EACH. THE PACKET WILL INCLUDE A COPY OF THIS SPEECH THAT YOU CAN REFERENCE AS NEEDED.
>> GOOD AFTERNOON, COMMISSIONERS MY NAME IS DAPHNE AND I AM THE HAYS COUNTY TREASURER. TODAY I AM HERE TO EXPRESS CONCERN ABOUT THREE OF OUR COUNTY KOLL LEGALS -- COLLEAGUES IN OPEN SESSION AS REQUESTED BY OUR HR DIRECTOR.
I WILL DO MY BEST TO PRIORITIZE CONFIDENTIALLY.
THE SUPPORTING DOCUMENTATION HAS BEEN PROVIDED TO YOU AND ALL REFERENCES TO THE EMPLOYEES WILL BE DISCUSSED AS THE LAST-DIGIT ITEM OF THEIR EMPLOYEE NUMBER. MR. KENNEDY, PLEASE STOP ME IF I
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AM PRESENTING INFORMATION THAT SHOULD NOT BE DONE SO IN OPEN COURT. I WILL BE SPEAKING VAGUELY, BUT AS CONCISELY AS POSSIBLE IN ORDER TO PROPERLY CONVEY MY CONCERNS. TO ANYONE WHOE -- WHO HAS THE DESIRE TO VIEW THE DOCUMENTS, THEY HAVE -- THEY ARE AVAILABLE BY AN OPEN RECORDS REQUEST WITH REDACTIONS DONE BY THE GENERA COUNCIL. PLEASE NOTE THE STATE OF TEXAS IS AN AT WILL EMPLOYMENT STATE. EMPLOYERS DO NOT HAVE TO STATE REASONING TO DISSOLVE EMPLOYMENT CONTRACTS.OF -- IN THE FIRST PACKET WHICH IS THE BIG ONE, YOU WILL SEE A COPY OF A PCN. A PCN ARE PROVIDED TO OUR OFFICE FOR ANY AND ALL EMPLOYMENT CHANGES DONE WITHIN THE COUNTY.
THE PC LOOKS LIKE THIS. >> CAN YOU SAY WHAT THE LETTERS
STAND FOR. >> PERSONNEL CHANGE -- PERSONNEL
>> THEY ARE NOTICES, RATHER. I WOULD LIKE YOU TO LOOK AT THE ONE CONCERNING EMPLOYEE NUMBER 8 WHICH IS THE LAST NUMBER OF THE EMPLOYEE NUMBER. PLEASE NOTE THE DATE OF TERMINATION AND THE DEPARTMENT. WE STPOEBG OF THE -- WE SPOKE WITH THE INSURANCE AND LONGEVITY.
I ASKED YOU TO NOTE THE REASONING FOR THE DETERMINATION -- FOR THE TERMINATION.
AND THE REASON FOR TERMINATION IS MARKED DISCHARGED.
I THEN ASK YOU TO GO TO THE SECONDARY PACKET.
PCN'S FOR EMPLOYEE NUMBER 2 AND EMPLOYEE NUMBER 7.
I WOULD LIKE TO REVIEW THEM SIDE BY SIDE.
>> PLEASE NOTE THE TERMINATION ON BOTH OF THESE EMPLOYEE NUMBERS. PLEASE NOTE THE DEPARTMENT.
PLEASE LOOK AT THE SECOND PAGE. IT IS A SECONDARY PCN.
PLEASE NOTE THE DATE. PLEASE NOTE THE REASONING FOR THE SECONDARY PCN. FACT NUMBER 1, THE FIRST PCN DOCUMENTS THAT A DEPARTMENTAL HEAD AND ELECTED OFFICIAL TERMINATED THE SAID EMPLOYEES ON SAID DATE.
FACT NUMBER 2, THE SECOND PCN DOCUMENTS THE HR DIRECTOR SUPER SEEDED THE DIRECTIONS OF A DEPARTMENTAL HEAD AND ELECTED OFFICIAL TO OFFER SAID EMPLOYEES TRANSFERS TO A DIFFERENT DEPARTMENT WITHOUT THE CONSULTATION OF THE DEPARTMENTAL DIRECTOR AND/OR ELECTED OFFICIAL FOR REASONING BEHIND THE SEPARATION OF EMPLOYMENT. FACT NUMBER THREE, THE TWO EMPLOYEES WERE TERMINATED, TRANSFERRED AND BEGAN WORK THE VERY SAME DAY. IN SO DOING THERE WAS NO LOSS IN HEALTH INSURANCE OR LOSS OF LONGEVITY.
COMMISSIONERS, THIS MEANS THESE TWO EMPLOYEES WERE EITHER WALKED THROUGH THE SYSTEM OR APPLIED, WERE INTERVIEWED AND HIRED AND STARTED A JOB THE VERY SAME DAY. THE SAME DAY THEY WERE TERMINATED. SPEAKING WITH EMPLOYEE NUMBER 8, SHE WAS NOT OFFERED A TRANSFER TO ANOTHER DEPARTMENT.
SHE WAS SIMPLY TERMINATED. ALL TERMINATION REASONS ARE THE SAME. THIS IS SHOWN BY THE PCN'S YOU HAVE BEEN PROVIDED. WHY THE DIFFERENCES? I DO NOT HAVE THE TIME OR EMPLOYEE POWER TO REVIEW EVERY EMPLOYEE TO VERIFY EACH WERE OFFERED TRANSFERS.
THAT WOULD TAKE WAY TOO MUCH TIME.
HOWEVER, THE STARK DIFFERENCE IN THE TREATMENT OPENS THE COUNTY TO A DOCUMENT -- DOCUMENTAL EEOC COMPLAINT.
IN THE LONG RUN THIS COSTS OUR TAXPAYERS.
THE PACKET FOR EMPLOYEE NUMBER TWO DOCUMENTS MISTAKES MADE LEADING TO THE TERMINATION OF SAID EMPLOY ECON TRACT.
EMPLOYEE CONTRACT. MAY I PRESENT DOCUMENTATION OR WOULD THAT INFRINGE ON THE RIGHTS OF THE EMPLOYEE?
>> I DON'T KNOW WHAT DOCUMENTATION YOU ARE UH -- ARE
ATTEMPTING TO PROVIDE. >> LET ME READ IT.
[INAUDIBLE]. >> ARE YOU ABLE TO KEEP GOING OR
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IS THAT A STOPPING POINT? >> IT IS A STOPPING POINT.
>> WHAT YOU JUST REFERENCED AS FAR AS THE REASONING AND THE
PACKET PER EMPLOYEE -- >> [INAUDIBLE].
>> I DIDN'T SEE THAT. >> [INAUDIBLE].
>> DOCUMENTED ON PAPER, BUT HANDLED DIFFERENTLY.
>> THERE WAS ADDITIONAL EMPLOYEL INFORMATION THAT OUTLINED IT.
THAT'S THE REASON I ASKED. WON TKWER FIGURE THERE -- WONDERING IF THERE IS ADDITIONAL INFORMATION.
>> THE HR COULD HAVE REACHED OUT TO GET AND CHOSE NOT TO AND OFFERED TRANSFERRED RATHER THAN FINDING OUT WHAT WAS GOING ON.
MAY OR -- MAY I OR MAY I NOT? >> BEFORE ANYBODY ELSE PROCEEDS IN THIS ROOM AS ELECTED OFFICIALS I WILL REMIND YOU COURT MEMBERS AND ANY OTHER ELECTED OFFICIAL IN THE ROOM OF A RECENT RESERVATION OF RIGHTS THAT WE PROCEED FROM TAC WHEN AN ELECTED OFFICIAL BEGINS TO ADVOCATE ON BEFORE OF OTHER EMPLOYEES AND START TO MAKE ALLEGATIONS OF CLAIMS THAT ARE FACT-BASED CLAIMS ON BEHALF OF OTHER EMPLOYEES, WE STAND TO LOSE POE DEN SHALY OUR -- POTENTIALLY OUR TAC RISK COVERAGE AND THERE IS PRECEDENT FOR THAT.
>> THANK YOU, SIR. THEN I WILL NOT TALK ABOUT THE DOCUMENTATION. I WILL BE ABLE, HOWEVER, TO DISCUSS THAT INFORMATION OUTSIDE OF THIS IF YOU HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS. AS YOU ARE AWARE, AS A DEPARTMENTAL HEAD AND ELECTED OFFICIAL I HAVE HAD MANY DIFFICULTIES IN WORKING WITH THE HR DIRECTOR.
WE HAVE SPOKEN TO THIS IN CLOSED SESSION.
IF YOU NEED ME TO REITERATE THEM, I WILL HAPPILY DO SO.
HOWEVER, I WILL LET THE FACTS STAND FOR THEMSELVES.
THE DOCUMENTATION SHOWS MY CONCERNS WITH THE HR DIRECTOR.
THE MOST SIGNIFICANT IS THE BIAS AND FAVOR SHOWN FOR EMPLOYEES THAT SHE SO CHOOSES. AN HR DIRECTOR MUST BE ABLE TO TREAT ALL EMPLOYEES EQUALLY. I BELIEVE I PROVIDED SUFFICIENT DOCUMENTATION THAT SHOWS A SMALL WINDOW THAT I HAVE ENCOUNTERED IN LESS THAN THE TWO MONTHS I HAVE BEEN IN OFFICE.
I CAN ONLY IMAGINE IF WE LOOK DEEPER.
THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
BEFORE YOU WALK AWAY, I WANTED TO ASK IS THERE ANY CLARIFICATION QUESTIONS LIKE COMMISSIONER SMITH ASKED ABOUT FROM ANY OTHER COURT MEMBERS? QUESTIONS OR SUMMARIES, RECAPS OR ANYTHING? I KNOW YOU HAVE A LOT BEFORE YOU AND SO I WANT TO GIVE YOU A CHANCE TO STRAIGHTEN IT OUT.
>> I HAVE ONE OTHER QUESTION. THAT'S THE --
>> YOU RECEIVED SOME DOCUMENTATION TO SHOW SUPPORTING REASON FOR CAUSE FOR ONE OF THE EMPLOYEES HOWEVER, WE ARE NOT
DISCUSSING CAUSE. >> NOT GONNA ASK THAT QUESTION.
>> I'M SORRY. >> MY QUESTION IS ON, YOU REFERENCED EMPLOYEE 2 AND 7 AND USED THEM AS EXAMPLES HERE.
IS THERE ANYTHING -- HAVE THEY EVEN BEEN -- I DON'T KNOW THE RIGHT WAY TO SAY THIS WITHOUT -- HAVE THEY -- ARE THEY AWARE THAT THEY ARE BEING USED AS AN EXAMPLE AND HAS THERE BEEN OUT REACH TO THEM TO CLARIFY WHETHER OR NOT THEY WOULD BE -- IF THEY WERE IN A SIMILAR SITUATION OR NOT?
>> I HAVE NOT BEEN AWARE. UNFORTUNATELY ALL I CAN PROVIDE YOU IS THE PCN'S. PCN'S ARE PUBLIC RECORD AND CAN BE REDACTED BY THE GENERAL COUNSEL.
>> AND PERFECTLY HONEST -- >> ARE THEY AWARE THEY ARE BEING
NO, SIR. THAT'S WHY DID -- WHY I DID NOT WANT TO DISCUSS ANYTHING IN REGARDS TO THEIR RESTRUCTURES.
>> COMMISSIONER INGALSBE? >> I AM OKAY RIGHT NOW, JUDGE.
IF THERE AREN'T ANY QUESTIONS -- >> ARE YOU WELCOME TO --
>> ANY CLARIFICATION QUESTIONS? >> NOT YET.
I NEED TO LOOK THROUGH THIS. >> COMMISSIONER SHELL?
>> ANY OTHERS? COMMISSIONER SMITH, ALL GOOD?
>> THIS ALSO WAS PART OF THE PACKET.
>> IT WAS PAPER CLIPPED TO THE SAME PACKET.
I AM JUST WONDER FIGURE THIS -- WHAT THIS HAS ANYTHING TO DO
WITH WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT. >> [INADDABLE] PART OF THE
SUPPORTING DOCUMENTATION. >> SO IN RECAP, YOU HAVE EVERYTHING STATED BEFORE YOU WITH GOVERNMENT DOCUMENTS.
>> DAPHNE, THIS SUPPORTING DOCUMENT GOES TO WHICH NUMBER OF
>> THAT WAS MY QUESTION. YOU JUST HELD UP THE SAME THING.
>> NO, NOT THAT ONE. >> IF GOES -- IT GOES TO NUMBER
-- >> WE CAN SORT THAT OUT IN A LITTLE WHILE AND I WANT TO KEEP THIS MOVING.
I HAVE AN UNDERSTANDING OUR DISTRICT ATTORNEY IS HERE AS WELL. IF YOU WILL PLEASE APPROACH THE PODIUM. THERE IS NO SNEAKING IN WITH
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YOU. STATE YOUR NAME AND TITLE FORTHE VIEWING PUBLIC. >> GOOD AFTERNOON, COMMISSIONERS AND JUDGE. I AM KELLY HIGGINS AND THE
DSTRICT ATTORNEY. >> I UNDERSTAND THERE IS A -- AS SMALL AS IT MAY BE, BUT ADDITIONAL CONTRIBUTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE FROM YOUR EXPERIENCE AS OUR NEW DISTRICT
ATTORNEY. >> IN THE CONTEXT I BELIEVE WE ARE DISCUSSING WHAT I HAVE IS AN EVENT THAT HAPPENED DURING OUR TRANSITION PERIOD. THERE IS A COUNTY POLICY THAT I BELIEVE NEEDS TO BE MODIFIED. [INADDABLE] THE APPLICATION OF THE POLICY DURING THE TRANSITION PERIOD.
AS YOU MAY WELL BE AWARE, AFTER MY ELECTION, BEFORE I TOOK OFFICE, SEVERAL TRIAL SHEETS, SEVERAL FELONY COURT SHEETS LEFT LEAVING ME WITH VACANCIES OF FIVE COURT CHIEFS TO FILL.
THOSE ARE VERY DEMANDING POSITIONS THAT REQUIRE HIGHLY-EXPERIENCED ATTORNEYS AND I AM TALKING ABOUT PEOPLE WITH 12 TO 20 YEARS EXPERIENCE WHO CAN MANAGE OTHER ATTORNEYS.
OUR SALARY STRUCTURE, AGAIN, IN LIGHT OF THE PRE-ADJUSTMENT UNDER THE MAT APPROACH, LEFT US EBGSZ -- EXTREMELY UNCOMPETITIVE TO THE OTHER COUNTIES. TO THE TUNE OF TIP TEEN,000 -- 15,000, 20,000 DIFFERENCE. WE TRY TO UH TACT TALENT TO THE D.A.'S OFFICE TO FILL THE VACANCIES, WE MADE OFFERS TO CANDIDATES IN EXCESS OF THE MINIMUM.
10% OF THE MINIMUM IS WHERE OUR OFFICE WAS.
THIS HAS COME UP BEFORE BECAUSE I HAD TO APPROACH THE COURT BEFORE TO ASK FOR EXCEPTIONS OF THE POLICY AS TO THREE PARTICULAR CANDIDATES SO FAR. DURING THE TRANSITION PERIOD WE HAD MADE THOSE OFFERS TO THE CANDIDATES AND REQUESTED THAT TE HR DEPARTMENT APPROVE THOSE VARIANCES FROM THE BEAR MINIMUMS. AND WE WERE ASTOUNDED TO FIND THAT THE HR DEPARTMENT DENIED OUR REQUEST AND REFUSED TO RATIFY THOSE OFFERS. AS YOU KNOW BECAUSE YOU MADE THE UNANIMOUS DECISION ON JANUARY 3RD, THOSE WERE REASONABLE OFFERS AND THEY WERE COMPARATIVE WITH THE COMPETING COUNTIES AROUND US FOR LEGAL TALENT.
I DO HAVE A CRITICISM ABOUT THE APPLICATION OF THAT POLICY.
MY CRITICISM MIGHT EVEN BE BETTER DIRECTED TOWARD THE POLICY ITSELF, BUT I REALLY DO FEEL LIKE IT WAS APPLIED IMPROPERLY. IT WAS WITHOUT CONSIDERATION OF THE CIRCUMSTANCES. I THINK THAT SHOULD BOW -- BE CLEAR TO THE COMMISSIONER THAT'S WHEN I CAME HERE ON THE THIRD AND MADE THE SAME PROPOSAL YOU UNANIMOUSLY AND WITHOUT CONTROVERSY APPROVED THOSE OFFERS.
I AM HAPPY TO ENTERTAIN ANY QUESTIONS OF ANY COMMISSIONERS OR THE JUDGE MIGHT HAVE. THAT'S THE EXTENT OF WHAT I HAVE
TO RELAY. >> THANK YOU AND I KNOW HOW BUSY YOU ARE TAKING ON A NEW OFFICE WITH SO MUCH BACKLOG.
I JUST WANT TO ASK THE COMMISSIONERS IF THEY HAVE QUESTIONS ONE BY ONE FOR ANYTHING FROM THE D.A.?
>> I DON'T BELIEVE SO. I THINK YOU EXPLAINED THE ISSUE WELL. THANK YOU.
>> I'M GOOD. >> COMMISSIONERS?
>> JUST, I TEND TO AGREE WITH THE POLICY CONCERN.
WHENEVER YOU CAME IN THAT DAY, IF YOU REMEMBER I NOT ONLY SUPPORTED, BUT I SAID, YEAH, ARE THIS IS A PROBLEM.
THIS IS NOT JUST A PROBLEM IN YOUR DEPARTMENT.
IT IS A PROBLEM EVERYWHERE. I THINK IN ALL ACTUALITY WE PROBABLY TIED THE HANDS OF BOTH THE BUDGET OFFICE AND THE HR DEPARTMENT WHEN IT COMES TO THAT SINGULAR PROVISION.
AT THE END OF THE DAY IT'S AN ATTORNEY OR THE FIRST EXECUTIVE ASSISTANT I HAD OR THE FIRST EXECUTIVE -- THE EXECUTIVE ASSISTANT THE JUDGE HAD WE HAD TO COME TO COURT AND GET THE 25% BEFORE APPROVAL. WE HAD TO DO THE SAME THING FOR THE NEW EXECUTIVE ASSISTANT. I WOULD BE SUPPORTIVE IN HAVING THE ABILITY FOR OUR DEPARTMENT HEADS TO OFFER UP TO THAT 25TH PERCENTILE AND THEN HAVE IT RATIFIED BY COURT INSTEAD OF HAVING US HAVE TO DO IT AND THEN MAKING THE OFFER.
IT WOULD BE A LOT EASIER. I TEND TO AGREE WITH YOU ON THE
POLICY SIDE. >> COMMISSIONER, I WOULD GO ONE STEP FURTHER INTO THAT COMMITMENT TO SAY THAT ELECTED OFFICIALS AND THE DEPARTMENT HEADS ARE ENTRUSTED BY US AND NOT A NICKEL MOVES THROUGH THIS COUNTY WITHOUT A BODY AGREEING TO IT. THE BUDGET PROCESS HAS BEEN THE
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-- IT HAS BEEN THE CHIEF BUDGET OFFICER FOR YEARS AND I AM GLAD TO UNDERSTAND THESE INTRICACIES.I SAY WE GO A STEP FURTHER AND SAY THE SUPER DAPPER, HANDSOME DISTRICT ATTORNEY IS HERE WITH THESE CREDENTIALS AND WAS ELECTED AND HE SHOULD HAVE THE FLEXIBILITY TO PAY WITHIN THAT RANGE WE HELPED SHAPE, AND THAT WHOLE RANGE SHOULD BE AT HIS DISCRETION BECAUSE THE BUDGET IS AT HIS DISCRETION.
IT IS THE SAME FOR ANY DEPARTMENT HEAD.
>> I JUST WANTED TO STICK TO THE POST ON HERE.
I DON'T WANT TO -- IF YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT THOSE POLICIES IN
THE FUTURE -- [INAUDIBLE]. >> SURE.
AND SO THAT IS A BETTER WRAP UP TO YOUR COMMENT, COMMISSIONER.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? THANK YOU, MR. HIGGINS FOR YOUR
>> IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE? >> NO.
I HAVE NOTHING TO ADD. >> AND SO MS. MILLER, WOULD YOU
LIKE TO APPROACH THE PODIUM? >> I WOULD.
SHERRY MILLER, HUMAN RESOURCES DIRECTOR.
TO THE FIRST ALLEGATION FROM THE JUDGE ACTUALLY, THE DECEMBER 6TH PAY PLAN RECEIVED BY MAG, YOU FIVE DIRECTED ME TO SEND YOU WHAT THEY HAD SENT US ON JANUARY 3RD, I THINK, WAS THE COURT DATE.
ON JANUARY 5TH -- ACTUALLY I HANDED THE PAY PLAN TO JUDGE BACERRA IN MY OFFICE AND A LITTLE WHILE LATER EMAILED THE PAY PLAN TO THE FIVE OF YOU. I DID NOT ALTER THE PAY PLAN IN TERMS OF THE CONTENT. WHAT I DID DO IS I ADDED THIS BIG DRAFT WATER MARK. IT WAS ACROSS THE TOP.
I TOLD YOU IN THE EMAIL, ATTACHED IS THE INITIAL DRAFT PAY PLAN FOR MAG. IT WAS RECEIVED ON DECEMBER 6TH. WHAT HAPPENED BETWEEN DECEMBER 6TH AND JANUARY 5TH, WHEN YOU WERE SENT THIS -- THE INITIAL DRAFT, THE PLAN ONLY, WAS THAT THE BUDGET OFFICER AND MYSELF HAD BEEN REVIEWING THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS, REVIEWING THEIR REPORT, REVIEWING THE DETAIL BEHIND THIS PROPOSED PAY POINT. REVIEWING THE MARKET DATA THEY GTHERED AND REVIEWING THE PLACEMENT OF THE POSITIONS.
IF YOU LOOK AT THIS VERSUS OUR CURRENT PLAN, YOU CAN TELL IMMEDIATELY THERE WAS SOMEPLACE MEANT OF QUITE A FEW POSITIONS THAT WOULD NOT HAVE MADE SENSE. NOR WOULD THEY HAVE MATCHED OUR ORGANIZATION. I SAID THIS MULTIPLE TIMES.
THIS WERE JOBS THAT WERE HIGHER THAN THEIR SUPERVISORS AND THERE WERE RECOMMENDATIONS FOR CLASSIFICATION CHANGES THAT WERE NOT IN STEP WITH HOW OUR DEPARTMENTS ARE CURRENTLY ORGANIZED. WHAT I TOLD YOU IN THE EMAIL ON JANUARY 5TH WAS THAT VIC REAND I WERE -- VICKY AND I WERE REVIEWING THE PLAN BASED ON THE COUNTY'S ORGANIZATIONAL STRUCTURES AND THE UTILIZATION OF POSITIONS.
WE ARE REVIEWING THE NUMBER OF GRADE AS A 40 PLUS GRADES AND THE RANGES AND SPREADS. SO THIS WAS IN JANUARY SUB SKWEPT -- SUBSEQUENTLY IN OUR MANY CONVERSATIONS WITH MAG WE WORKED WITH CAROLYN TO ASSESS WHAT WORKS BEST FOR THE ORGANIZATION. AS SOMEONE WHO HAS BEEN HERE FOR 18 YEARS, I HAVE BEEN TO EVERY JOB SITE.
I HAVE BEEN TO EVERY DEPARTMENT. HAVE I PROBABLY TALKED TO MORE EMPLOYEES THAN ANY OTHER PERSON IN THIS COUNTY UNDERSTANDING THE WORK THEY DO. YOU TRUSTED THE PROCESS TO ME.
YOU HAVE TRUSTED THIS PROCESS TO ME FOR OVER 18 YEARS.
NO. THA*RZ NOT -- THAT'S NOT RIGHT.
ONE MONTH SHY OF 18 YEARS. SO WORKING WITH MAG AND OUR BUDGET OFFICER WHO IS PROBABLY THE NEXT PERSON IN THE COUNTY
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THAT IS MOST FAMILIAR WITH COUNTY CLASSIFICATIONS AND POSITIONS, THERE WAS QUITE A BIT OF BACK AND FORTHWITH CAROLYN IN TERMS OF WHAT DOES THE PAY CHART LOOK LIKE IF WE DO X TO IT.WHAT DOES THE PAY CHART LOOK LIKE IF WE DO ANOTHER REITERATION OF IT. IN JANUARY YOU DIRECTED ME TO SEND TO THE DEPARTMENT HEADS ANDY -- AND ELECTED OFFICIALS THE PAY PLAN AS IT STOOD. WHAT I SENT TO THE DEPARTMENT HEADS AND THE ELECTED OFFICIALS IS ANOTHER DRAFT PAY PLAN DIFFERENT THAN THE ONE MAC HAD SENT ORIGINALLY.
TODAY WE HAVE HAD THREE OR FOUR REITERATIONS OF THAT PAY PLAN.
DR. CAMPBELL IS WORKING ON THE MOST RECENT PAY PLAN.
THE TIME FRAME IS OBNOXIOUS -FPLTS.
WE CONTRACTED WITH A COMPANY AND WE DIDN'T HOLD THEIR FEET TO THE FIRE ON THE TIME FRAME. THE UP FRONT TIME FRAME WAS OUT OF OUR COB TROLL. OUT OF OUR CONTROL.
SEVERAL WERE INVOLVED IN THE UP FRONT PROCESS AND THIS COMPANY COULD NOT START THEIR WORK EVEN WITHOUT THE INFORMATION THEY WERE WAITING FOR. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS STUDY AND THE ALLEGATION OF ALTERING GOVERNMENT DOCUMENTS?
ACCORDING TO MAG -- >> SO THE DOCUMENT QUESTION THAT YOU JUST MADE WAS NOT ABOUT MODIFYING JOB DESCRIPTIONS OR POSITIONS OR ANY OF THOSE THINGS.
THERE'S A LEVEL OF EXPECTATION THAT YOU WOULD WORK ON THE DOCUMENT. THE PIECE REFERENCED SPECIFICALLY WHICH THE COMMISSIONERS HAVE A COPY OF IS THE DE -- DE LESION OF THE -- DELETION OF THE DECEMBER 6TH DATE SO THAT YOU WOULDN'T SHOW, I GUESS, HOW LONG YOU HAD IT BEFOREHAND. I HAVE COPIES AND I CAN REFERENCE THEM. IF YOU DON'T MIND, JUST KEEP
GOING. >> SO LET ME JUST MAKE SURE.
YOU ARE ALLEGING THAT I DELETED THE DATE?
ON THE DOCUMENT I SENT? >> THE DATE THAT WAS GIVEN TO ME WAS DELETED ON THE DOCUMENT YOU GAVE ME.
YES, MA'AM. >> I DIDN'T DELETE A DATE ON PURPOSE. I TOLD YOU ALL ALONG EVERY UPDATE OF WHEN DOCUMENTS WERE RECEIVED.
IF A DATE CAME OFF OF THAT DOCUMENT, IT COULD VERY WELL HAVE COME OFF, MAYBE, WHEN I ADDED DRAFT.
I HAVE NOT HID ONE SINGLE THING FROM YOU, AND YOU KNOW THAT.
>> I HAVE -- AS WELL AS THE VIDEO I HAVE THE TRANSCRIPTS.
THEY ARE THE TRANSCRIPTS OF THE COURT PRESENTATIONS.
I HAVE NOT HID ONE SINGLE THING FROM YOU.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ABOUT THE SALARY STUDY OR THE
DOCUMENTATION? >> I DO HAVE SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT THE SALARY STUDY. NOT NECESSARILY THE DOCUMENTATION, BUT THE STUDY ITSELF.
ARE WE ON TRACK TO HAVE THIS IMPLEMENTED FOR THE MARCH 1 PAY PERIOD IF WE DID -- EVEN IF WE CONSIDERED IT ON THE 14TH, COULD WE DO IT RETROACTIVELY TO THE FIRST?
>> THAT'S UP TO THE COURT AND WHAT THEY ADOPT.
THEN IT WOULD BE UP TO THE -- >> I UNDERSTAND IT IS UP TO US.
MY QUESTION IS, NUMBER ONE, DO WE HAVE THAT ABILITY, BUT ACTUALLY THAT'S NUMBER TWO, DO WE HAVE THE ABILITY.
NUMBER ONE IS WILL WE HAVE THE DATA --
>> I SEE WHAT YOU ARE ASKING, YEAH.
>> DR. CAMPBELL WAS HERE LAST WEDNESDAY, THURSDAY AND FRIDAY.
HE MEET WITH EVERY DEPARTMENT HEAD AND ELECTED OFFICIAL EXCEPT THE COURT. HE HAD A VERY SHORT MEETING WITH MS. TENARIO. SHE LEFT PREMATURELY.
THE DATA HE RECEIVED, THE INFORMATION HE RECEIVED FROM EACH ELECTED OFFICIAL AND DEPARTMENT HEAD THAT MET WITH HIM, HE IS TAKING BACK AND GOING TO REVAMP THE PAY PLAN AND THE REPORT. HE WAS IN AGREEMENT THAT WE SHOULD NOT HAVE SHARED ANYTHING UP FRONT.
WHEN HE ARRIVED HERE HE WAS LEAD TO BELIEVE FROM HIS ORGANIZATION THAT HE WAS HERE TO FINALIZE THE PAY PLAN.
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A LOT OF YOU WERE HERE TO HEAR THEM THAT MORNING.HE SAID, WAIT A MINUTE. THERE ARE TOO MANY PROBLEMS WITH THIS. FOR WELL OVER A MONTH THERE ARE STILL TOO MANY PROEUPBTS. BY THE 8TH -- BY THE 8TH HE WILL PRESENT TO US HIS FINAL RECOMMENDATION.
HE WILL BE HERE ON THE 14TH TO PRESENT TO THE COURT A ROW -- REVIEW OF THE PROCESS AND GO THROUGH THE REPORT AND TALK ABOUT THE PAY PLAN. THERE ARE SIGNIFICANT CHANGES AND SHOULD YOU ADOPT THIS THERE ARE PLANS TO PROMOTIONS AND DEMOTIONS AND HOW THOSE WORK THAT YOU WILL NEED TO EDIT YOUR POLICY TO ADDRESS THOSE CHANGES. IN THE MEANTIME, DR. CAMPBELL IS AVAILABLE TO TALK TO ANYBODY THAT HAS ANYTHING ELSE THEY NEED
TO SAY TO HIM. >> COMMISSIONER, THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I WAS GOING TO SAY. AT THE END OF THE DAY, I THINK THAT WE AS THE GOVERNING BODY AND YOU AND VICKY PROBABLY HAVE A VERY DIFFERENT INSIGHT INTO SOME OF THESE OFFICES THAN JUST THE AVERAGE DEPARTMENT HEAD. I SAY THAT BECAUSE I'M GONNA GO INTO THE EXACT SAME EXAMPLE THAT I KEEP USING.
IF YOU LOOK AT JUSTICE CLERKS, I KNOW THAT Y'ALL KNOW THOSE ARE DIFFERENT, RIGHT? A JUSTICE CLERK AND A CONSTABLE'S OFFICE ARE DIFFERENT THAN A JUSTICE CLERK AND THE JP'S OFFICE. YEAH.
THEIR JOBS ARE VERY DIFFERENT. THEY ARE VERY DIFFERENT AND YET CATEGORIZED SIMILARLY. WHEN WE MAKE THOSE CHANGES WE LOOK AT THEM AS THE SAME. I BRING THAT UP BECAUSE I WOULD LIKE TO KIND OF EXPLORE THAT WITH HIM OR WHOMEVER IS IN CHARGE OF -- OR PWHOPL -- WHOMEVER IS DRAFTING THAT.
I CAN TELL YOU THAT -- AND THIS IS NOT A REFLECTION ON YOU, BUT YOU ASKED SPECIFICALLY ABOUT THE REPORT.
I WAS ON THE ZOOM FOR THE FIRST PRESENTATION AND I WAS SORELY DISAPPOINTED, I WILL PUT IT THAT WAY.
THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS, THE STATEMENTS, WELL, WE DON'T NEED TO BE DOING THIS AND I THINK THIS IS DUMB AND I DON'T KNOW WHY -- MORE OR LESS, I DON'T KNOW WHY THE COMMISSIONERS ARE WANTING TO DO THIS. I THINK AS A CONSULTANT I WOULD NEVER SAY THAT TO MY CLIENT. BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY, THE INDICATION THAT I NEED TO BE SITTING DOWN OR WE SHOULD BE SITTING DOWN WITH DEPARTMENT HEADS AND HAVING THESE CON SREUR SAYINGSES -- CONVERSATIONS, I COULD NOT HAVE AGREED MORE WITH HIM. I THOUGHT THAT'S WHAT WE PAID FOR ON THE FRONT END, AND THEY SHOULD HAVE DONE THAT BEFORE WE EVER HAD THAT MEETING. THE MEETING TWO WEEKS AGO.
AND FOR HIM TO SAY THAT IT PROVED ON YOU DIS-- PROVED HOW DISCONNECTED FROM THE PROCESS HE WAS.
I DON'T THINK THAT'S A REFLECTION ON HR.
I THINK THAT'S A REFLECTION ON THE VENDOR THAT WE HIRED TO DO THIS. I KNOW WE WENT THROUGH A PROCESS, BUT IT WAS VERY DISHEARTENING TO ME AND I KNOW I HAVE SPOKEN TO A NUMBER OF EMPLOYEES AND DEPARTMENT HEADS THAT WERE ALL IN ATTENDANCE OR PLANNING ON ATTENDING THE LATER IN THE DAY SESSION THE SECOND SESSION WAS CANCELED AND THE BASIC BLOCKING AND TACKLING FOR WHAT I THOUGHT THE SALARY STUDY WAS GOING TO DO, IT WAS OBVIOUS FROM THE -- THE FIRST 10 MINUTES OF THE MEETING THAT IT HADN'T BEEN DONE.
SO I GUESS WE WILL SEE WHAT THAT COMES -- WHAT THE OUTCOME OF THAT IS, BUT I CAN PROMISE MY OFFICE AND I WILL BE REACHING OUT TO TRY TO EXPRESS SOME OF THAT TO MR. CAMPBELL -- OR DR. CAMPBELL, SORRY AND TRY TO DRESS SOME OF THOSE CONCERNS.
I THINK I AM NOT THE ONLY ONE WHO HAS THEM, PROBABLY.
>> LET ME JUST -- I WILL JUST SAY ALSO, I AGREE, COMMISSIONER, THAT I THINK WE ALL REALIZE THAT THE INFORMATION WE WERE RECEIVING AND ALTHOUGH DR. CAMPBELL WAS NOT THE INITIAL PERSON WE WERE DEALING WITH, IT WAS SOMEONE ELSE.
AND SO WHEN HE CAME UP HERE I THINK OUR EMPLOYEES ALREADY -- REALIZED THAT, MAYBE, YOU KNOW, HE SHOULD HAVE BEEN THE ONE
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LEADING THE EFFORT. TO ME THEY ALL SEEM APPRECIATIVE OF HIM BEG -- BEING HERE AND HIS WILLINGNESS TO MEET WITH THE DEPARTMENT HEADS AND THE ELECTED OFFICIALS.I AGREE IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN DONE UP FRONT AND THE INFORMATION WAS RELEASED AND WHAT LITTLE INFORMATION WAS RELEASED.
I THINK WE HAD DISCUSSED THIS BEFORE AND I THINK ONE OF THE BIGGEST CONCERNS WAS THAT THERE WAS NO BACK UP TO THE INFORMATION SENT. WHEN PEOPLE SAW THIS OF -- I MEAN A LIST OF JOB -- OR JOBS AND PAY AND THERE WAS NO BACK UP TO DETERMINE WHERE THAT CAME FROM, I THINK THAT WAS, YOU KNOW, A BIG MISTAKE THAT WE SHOULD NOT HAVE RELEASED THAT WITHOUT ANY KIND OF A BACK UP. IT WASN'T CORRECT.
THERE WERE THINGS NOT RIGHT IN THERE.
I HOPE WE ARE BACK ON TRACK WITH DR. CAMPBELL.
THE OTHER THING I WOULD SAY, JUDGE, AND I KNOW WE WILL ALLOW FOR AS MUCH TIME AS HE NEEDS, BUT I THINK WHETHER WE CALL A WORKSHOP THAT WE GIVE HIM AMPLE TIME TO SPEAK AND TO PRESENT AND HAVE OTHERS IN HERE THAT MAY HAVE FOLLOW-UP QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS AND COMMENTS THAT WE MAKE SURE WE GIVE THE AMPLE TIME
TO PLAY OUT THE WAY IT NEEDS TO. >> DR. CAMPBELL HAS PROMISED THE REPORT BY MARCH 8TH. I WILL ASK HIM TO SEND THE REPORT TO EACH OF YOU SO THERE IS NO ROOM FOR YOU TO THINK THAT I AM CAPABLE OF EDITING A DOCUMENT FOR THIS COUNTY, TO SHOW I WITHHELD SOMETHING FROM YOU.
SO LOOK FOR THAT. THAT WILL BE ON OR BEFORE MARC.
WE ALL WERE INVOLVED IN THE PROCESS EARLY ON.
OUR EMPLOYEES WERE INVITED AND OUR EMPLOYEES AND ELECTED OFFICIALS TO A BEGINNING AND WE HAD ZOOM SESSIONS SO THAT EMPLOYEES WOULD KNOW WHAT THEIR EXPECTATIONS WERE IN TERMS OF COMPLETING THE QUESTIONNAIRE. AND THEN ONCE THE -- EVEN PRIOR TO THE FIRST -- THE INITIAL DRAFT REPORT COMING OUT THEY SAID HOW DO WE TALK TO MAG. WE SET UP ANOTHER ROUND OF ZOOM MEETINGS AND I DID NOT PARTICIPATE IN THE ZOOM MEETINGS. I NEEDED THE DEPARTMENTS TO BE ABLE TO TALK TO MAG AND TELL THEM WHATEVER THEY NEEDED TO TELL THEM AND WE WERE BUSY ADOPTING A BUDGET.
SO I DID NOT ATTEND THOSE MEETINGS.
I KNOW THERE WERE PROBABLY SIX TO EIGHT SESSION THAT'S DEPARTMENT HEADS AND ELECTED OFFICIALS COULD TALK WITH MAG.
THERE ARE QUESTIONNAIRES OF WE COULD ASK FOR ALL OF THE EMPLOYEE QUESTIONNAIRES. WE ASKED THEM TO REOPEN THE DATABASE SO MANAGERS COULD GET IN PRIOR TO THEIR MEETINGS WITH DR. CAMPBELL AND RE-REVIEW. A LOT OF IT COMES FROM THE QUESTIONNAIRES. AND THAT WAS INCUMBENT ON OUR MANAGERS TO LOOK AT THE QUESTIONNAIRES BEFORE THEY WERE SUBMITTED AND MADE SURE THEY WERE SUBMITTED THOROUGHLY AND TO THE CORRECT LEVEL. WE CAN JUST MAKE SURE WE GET A REPORT BY MARCH 8TH. I DON'T THINK EVERY DEPARTMENT HEAD AND EMPLOYEE WHIM -- WILL BE TOTALLY HAPPY.
THERE MAY BE DISAPPOINTMENTS. YOU DON'T HAVE TO ADOPT.
I WOULD HOPE THERE WOULD BE TIME TO REVIEW BETWEEN THE 8TH OR WHENEVER HE GETS IT TO YOU BEFORE THE 8TH.
AND SEE IF IT IS A PLAN FOR YOU TO ADOPT.
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ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ABOUT THE SALARY STUDY?>> I THINK SHE HAD SOMETHING ELSE.
>> I THINK I HAVE SOME OTHER THINGS.
>> GO AHEAD. >> MS. HENOYA'S CLAIM THAT HR IS INVOLVED IN TERMINATIONS IN GENERAL TO ASSIST EMPLOYEES BEING DISMISSED OR DISCHARGED OR TERMINATED FROM THE COUNTY IS -- SHE DOESN'T HAVE AN UNDERSTANDING OF HR'S INVOLVEMENT IN THOSE SITUATIONS. WE OFTEN TIMES AS AN HR DEPARTMENT FIND OUT AFTER THE FACT.
OUR OWN DISTRICT CLERK DISMISSED AN EMPLOYEE AND I FOUND OUT FROM THE EMPLOYEE CALLING AND SCREAMING ON MY PHONE THAT SHE WAS DISCHARGED. THE TREASURER WAS INVOLVED IN THE DISCHARGE. HR IS NOT ALWAYS MADE AWARE AHEAD OF TIME. IN TERMS OF THE DISCHARGE IN THE HR OFFICE, I HAVE SIGNIFICANT DOCUMENTATION OF THAT PARTICULAR EMPLOYEE'S BEHAVIOR AND I WILL HAVE THAT IN MY FILES AND RESPONSIVE TO WHATEVER COMES MY WAY.
I AM INVOLVED IN RESPONDING TO EQUAL EMPLOYMENT OPPORTUNITY CLAIMS THAT ARE FILED WITH THE COUNTY.
AND WE HAVE -- AS A COUNTY WE HAVE -- WE ARE DEFENSIVE TO THE COUNTY AND THE DECISIONS THAT COUNTY ADMINISTRATORS MAKE AND WE ARE GENERALLY ABLE TO RESPOND THAT THE COUNTY HAS NOT COMMITTED DISCRIMINATION ORIE TALL KWRAEUGS OR -- OR RETALIATION OR ANY OF THOSE BUZZ WORDS.
IN TERMS OF THE EMPLOYEE'S TIME SHEET FROM MY DEPARTMENT, IT IS GENERALLY ACCEPTED AND IT HAPPENS NEARLY EVERY WEEK THAT MANAGERS -- THE DEPARTMENT HEADS THAT APPROVE TIME SHEETS, MAYBE SOMEONE FORGOT TO CLOCK IN, THEIR CLOCK IN DIDN'T TAKE, THEY FORGOT TO CLOCK OUT, THE EMPLOYEE CANNOT GO IN THERE AND ALTER THEIR OWN TIME SHEETS. THEY CANNOT MANUALLY ENTER THEIR OWN TIME. ONLY THE SUPERVISOR CAN WITH THE TIME-KEEPING SYSTEM WE HAVE. SO IT IS VERY COMMON AND AS YOU HEARD MR. KENNEDY SAY IN THE EXECUTIVE SESSION FROM A MONTH AGO THAT IT IS VERY COMMON FOR SUPERVISORS TO ADJUST OR MAKE CHANGES OR ENTRIES INTO A TIME SHEET.
FOR THAT PARTICULAR EMPLOYEE SHE WAS EXCUSED FROM MY OFFICE BECAUSE OF HER BEHAVIOR AND ASKED TO LEAVE FOR THE DAY.
SHE CLOCKED OUT AT 12:22 P.M. SHOW SAID THAT SHE WAS GOING TO GO TO THE JUDGE'S OFFICE. AND I SAID, AND THERE ARE WITNESSES, THAT'S FINE. YOU HAVE TO STOP WHAT YOU ARE DOING AND YOU HAVE TO LEAVE MY OFFICE.
THE NEXT DAY SHE REPORTED TO WORK WITHOUT ANY COMMUNICATION THE REST OF THE AFTERNOON. I WENT IN AND LOOKED AT HER TIME SHEET AND SAW THAT SHE HAD CLOCKED OUT AT 12:22.
TO GIVE HER THE BENEFIT OF THE DOUBT SHE WAS DEALING WITH HER EMPLOYMENT I CHANGED HER CLOCKOUT TO 4:45 P.M.! I GAVE THE EMPLOYEE FOUR AND A HALF HOURS THAT SHE WAS NOT PHYSICALLY IN THE HR OFFICE, BUT I ASSUMED SHE WAS DEALING WITH HER EMPLOYMENT. I THINK I HAVE THE PREROGATIVE
TO DO THAT AS A SUPERVISOR. >> I DIDN'T WANT TO INTERRUPT YOUR CADENCE, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO JUST SAY THAT I WOULD ENCOURAGE ALL DEPARTMENT HEADS AND ELECTED OFFICIALS THAT CAN SEE THIS OR WILL IN THE FUTURE SEE THIS, IF THERE ARE -- OTHER THAN CUSTOM MARY ED -- CUSTOMARY EDITS TO A TIME SHEET, IT IS CUSTOMARY TO LEAVE AT 5:00 AND I WILL DO IT.
OTHER THAN THOSE STANDARD-TYPE EDITS I ENCOURAGE STRONGLY FOR ALL OFFICIALS WITH THE CAPACITY TO EDIT TIME SHEETS TO JUST
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COORDINATE WITH THEM AND LETTING THEM KNOW WHAT THEY ARE DOING AND WHY SINCE IT IS THEIR DOCUMENT AND IT IS THAT EMPLOYEE THAT WAS MADE TO FEEL UNCOMFORTABLE WITH YOUR EDIT BECAUSE YOU DIDN'T RUN IT BY HER.>> I WOULD LIKE TO EXPAND ON THAT.
ON THAT THURSDAY MORNING WHEN THAT EMPLOYEE REPORTED TO WORK SHE REFUSED TO COME INTO MY OFFICE TO DISCUSS ANYTHING OVER 10 TIMES. 10 TIMES I ASKED HER TO STEP INTO MY OFFICE. HAD SHE GRANTED ME THE PROFESSIONAL COURTESY OF COMMUNICATING WITH ME AS AN EMPLOYEE SHOULD I WOULD HAVE BEEN ABLE TO TELL HER I GAVE HER A 4:45 CLOCKOUT FOR THE DAY BEFORE.
I HAD NO IDEA WHETHER SHE CAME TO SEE YOU OR NOT.
SHE PUT A PIECE OF CANDY ON MY CAR ON THE AFTERNOON SHE LEFT.
I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WAS A SIGN. I THOUGHT, WELL, MAYBE THAT'S A SIGN TO JUST TELL ME THAT SHE CAME TO TALK TO YOU.
I ENCOURAGED HER. I ENCOURAGED ALL EMPLOYEES TO TALK TO WHOMEVER THEY NEED TO. SO I AM NOT REALLY SURE HOW I COMMITTED TIME SHEET FRAUD, AND IF I DID, ARE THEN SO HAVE EVERY OTHER SUPERVISOR IN THIS COUNTY LIKELY.
ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE TIME SHEET?
>> SO SHERRY, YOU GAVE HER -- >> I GAVE HER MORE TIME.
YES, MA'AM. IN THE SPIRIT OF BEING TRANSPARENT AND HOPING SHE WAS DEALING WITH HER EMPLOYMENT SITUATION I GAVE HER FOUR HOURS AND 23 MORE MINUTES.
>> COMMISSIONER INGALSBE AND SHE DID, JUST SO YOU KNOW SHE DID COME TO MY OFFICE AND I SPENT AN AMPLE AMOUNT OF TIME.
I DIDN'T CLOCK T BUT GAVE HER PLENTY OF TIME TO DISCUSS HER CONCERNS. HER -- I WILL SUMMARIZE.
THE GENERAL CONCERN IS, IT COULD BE -- I AM NOT SAYING THERE IS MALICE. IT IS JUST POLICY.
WE ARE A POLICY BOARD. IT IS A POLICY CONVERSATION.
THE IDEA THAT SOMEONE'S TIME WAS MODIFIED CAN LATER -- I AM NOT SAYING THAT SHE DID, BUT CAN BE INTERPRETED AS A FUTURE SET UP TO SAY, WELL YOU WERE SUPPOSED TO BE HERE AT 4:45.
WHY DID I SEE YOU AT HEB AT 3:00.
WELL, NOW YOU HAVE CREATED OR SEEDED A FUTURE PROBLEM BECAUSE YOU HAVE SUBMITTED -- IN A SENSE BY SUBMITTING YOU APPROVED AND AUTHORIZING THAT THIS IS FACTUAL.
SHE WASN'T PUT IN THE LOOP OF THE CONVERSATION AS TO WHEN SHE ACTUALLY LEFT. WHAT IF SHE WENT TO PICK UP A CHILD FROM SCHOOL AND PEOPLE SAW HER THERE, BUT THE TIME SHEET SAYS ANOTHER THING. THE INACCURACY AND NOT AGREEING WITH DEPARTMENT HEAD AND EMPLOYEES TO MAKE THOSE EDITS WITHOUT THEIR CONCEPT OR APPROVAL IS THE CONCERN -- CONCEPT OR APPROVAL IS THE CONCERN.
SAYING YOU WERE SUPPOSED TO BE HERE AND THE DOCUMENTS SAY YOU WERE, BUT YET YOU WEREN'T. AND SO THAT'S WHY SHE SHE WAS
LEFT OUT OF THE CONVERSATION. >> YEAH.
SHE WAS ASKED 10 TIMES TO COME TO MY OFFICE TO TALK.
>> ANY QUESTIONS? >> REGARDING THAT EMPLOYEE'S
TERMINATION FROM HR -- >> CAN I MAKE AN INTERJECTION ON THIS? IT'S BEEN BROUGHT UP INTO WHAT SEEMS TO BE A COMPLAINT WITH OUR HR DIRECTOR ABOUT THE TERMINATION OF ONE OF HER EMPLOYEES.
I DON'T REALLY LIKE TALK ABOUT OTHER EMPLOYEES WHO HAVE NOT CONSENTED TO AN EXECUTIVE SESSION AND PULLED INTO THE PUBLIC. JUST TO BE CAUTIOUS OF THAT.
>> THANK YOU. >> I DON'T NEED THAT BECAUSE FOR ONE I DON'T -- I HAVE BEEN HERE 12 PLUS YEARS AND I HAVE NEVER SEEN A COMMISSIONER'S COURT GET INTO THE ISSUE OF SOMEONE ELSE'S EMPLOYEE AND THEIR TERMINATION IN THIS WAY.
OR THEIR SEPARATION IN THIS WAY. FOR ME IT IS CROSSING THE LINE IN GENERAL TO GET INTO THAT. ESPECIALLY IN AN OPEN SESSION
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WITH SOMEONE WHO DOES NOT HAVE THE ABILITY TO CONSENT TO OR -->> DEFEND THEMSELVES. EXACTLY.
>> TO ME IT DOESN'T EVEN MATTER. THE MATTER OF A DEPARTMENT HEAD CORRECTING SOMEONE'S TIME SHEET IS THE DEPARTMENT HEAD'S JOB.
THAT'S WHAT WE HOLD OUR DEPARTMENT ACCOUNTABLE TO DO IS MANAGE THEIR EMPLOYEES. I HAVE NO DEPARTMENT AS A DEPARTMENT HEAD -- WITH A DEPARTMENT HEAD CHANGING SOMEONE'S TIME SHEET. IF THEY WERE TO REMOVE HOURS FROM THAT PERSON'S BEING THERE AND WORKING THERE, ARE I HOPE THAT PERSON WOULD GO TO THEM AND SAY WHY DID YOU DO THAT? AND THEN THERE WOULD BE AN EXPLANATION FOR IT.
IF NOT, I WOULD EXPECT TO HEAR FROM THEM.
I DON'T THINK THAT'S THE CASE HERE.
I THINK THIS IS JUST THE CASE OF A MISUNDERSTANDING WITH HOURS ADDED TO SOMEONE'S TIME SHEET. TO CLAIM THAT IT IS MANIPULATING A GOVERNMENT RECORD OF TIME IS COMPLETELY RIDICULOUS.
JUST COMPLETELY RIDICULOUS. I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHY WE ARE TALKING ABOUT IT I GUESS IS MY ANSWER TO THAT.
I LOOK AT MY JOB AS WORKING FOR EVERYBODY.
EVERYBODY IN THE COUNTY AND EVERY EMPLOYEE.
I TRY TO LOOK AT IT THAT WAY. ONE OF THE REASONS I APPEALED TO COMING TO THE COUNTY JANUARY OF 2011 WAS TO BE PART OF AN ORGANIZATION. I WORKED FOR A LARGE CORPORATION FOR AWHILE. I WORKED FOR SMALL BUSINESSES AND THINGS LIKE THAT. I KIND OF MISS THE COMRADERY AND THE WORKING IN A LARGE TEAM ASPECT.
IT WAS NOT SOMETHING I WORKED OR HAD EXPERIENCE IN.
IT WAS AN OPPORTUNITY I LOOKED AT TO BE A PART OF SOMETHING IS THAT WAS -- SOMETHING THAT WAS LARGER THAN MYSELF AND DOING SOMETHING THAT WAS DOING THINGS AND I -- IT WAS SELFISH TO A CERTAIN DEGREE THAT I WANTED TO BE A PART OF SOMETHING THAT I WOULD ONE DAY FEEL POSITIVE ABOUT.
I WOULD DO SOMETHING THAT WOULD MAKE ME FEEL GOOD.
THAT'S SORT OF THE WAY I LOOKED AT MY ROLE IN THE COUNTY FROM DAY ONE. WHATEVER ROLE THAT HAS BEEN.
I THINK MOST OF OUR EMPLOYEES AND THE DEPARTMENT HEADS AND THE ELECTED OFFICIALS FEEL THE SAME WAY.
WE ARE ALL A TEAM. IT DOESN'T MEAN WE HAVE TO LIKE EACH OTHER ALL THE TIME OR GO TO DINNER WITH EACH OTHER OR WHATVER ELSE. BUT WE SHARE SOMETHING IN COMMON AND THAT IS TO WORK FOR EVERYONE THE SAME.
WE HAVE SUPPORT DEPARTMENT THAT'S DO DIRECTLY SUPPORT OUR EMPLOYEE DEPARTMENTS, OUR I.T. AND OUR COUNTY-WIDE OFFICE.
THEY HAVE CONTACT WITH THE EMPLOYEES ALL THE TIME.
THEIR JOB IS -- IT REQUIRES THEM TO WORK FOR THEM AND TO HELP THEM DO THINGS AND HELP CITIZENS IN THE BEST WAY THEY CAN.
THERE IS DEFINITELY THAT CHANCE THAT WE HAVE MORE SUPPORT SERVICES AND THE DEPARTMENTS OF THE COUNTY.
THOSE INTERACTIONS ARE GOING TO HAPPEN MORE.
JERRY IS NOT HERE, BUT THERE MAY BE [INAUDIBLE] OFFICIALS UNLESS THEY HAVE WORK DOWN THE ROAD. THAT'S UNDERSTANDABLE BECAUSE HE DOESN'T SUPPORT THE COUNTY FUNCTIONS THERE COULD BE PERSONAL CONFLICT AND THERE COULD BE -- IT IS SOMETHING PERCEIVED TO HAVE BEEN DONE THAT MAKES SOMEBODY FEEL COMFORTABLE AND BAD. THEY ARE LIKELY TO HAVE -- IN OUR ROLE AS THIS BODY OF 5 IT IS HARD TO WORK FOR FIVE DIFFERENT PEOPLE. THESE DEPARTMENT HEADS WILL WORK WTH THIS COMMISSIONER'S COURT. WE ARE THEIR SUPERVISOR.
IF THEY HAVE A PROBLEM WITH ONE OF MY EMPLOYEES WHICH IS MY EMPLOY -- EMPLOYEE THAT THEY TRY TO WORK IT OUT FIRST.
IT HAPPENS IN ORGANIZATIONS ALL THE TIME.
THEY DO THEIR BEST TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN.
IF THEY HAVE TO ESCALATE TO THAT , WHETHER IT IS A COMPLAINT OR SOMETHING, THAT THEY GIVE US THE COURTESY, ALL OF US INDIVIDUALLY THE COURTESY, TO SIT DOWN WITH THEM AND DISCUSS THOSE ISSUES. I THINK THAT'S FAIR.
I REALLY DO. I THINK THAT IS A FAIR THING TO ASK AS A SUPERVISOR AND AS SOMEBODY THAT TAKES THE JOB PRETTY SERIOUSLY. IT DOESN'T MEAN THEY HAVE TO --
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THEY DON'T HAVE TO HIDE THEIR FEELINGS.THEY CAN BE BRUTALLY HONEST AND IT HAPPENS QUITE A BIT.
YOU KNOW, THERE ARE LITTLE THINGS THAT HAPPEN WITH THIS MANY THING AND DOING THINGS CLOSE TOGETHER, SOMETIMES THERE IS FRICTION. I JUST ASK THAT COURTESY.
I THINK THE 12 YEARS I HAVE BEEN HERE, THIS IS NOT WHAT THIS COUNTY HAS BEEN ABOUT. THIS IS NOT HOW WE DO BUSINESS.
WE HAVE TO FIND A WAY TO WORK WITH EACH OTHER AND IT SADDENS ME. IT REALLY DOES.
IT IS A SAD DAY FOR ME THAT THIS IS WHERE WE ARE.
I JUST ASK FOR PEOPLE TO PLEASE, PLEASE DO OUR BEST TO WORK TOGETHER. AND THERE WILL BE THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN BROUGHT UP TODAY THAT I WILL -- I WILL DEFINITELY HAVE CONVERSATIONS WITH PEOPLE ABOUT. THERE'S NO DOUBT ABOUT THAT.
JUST LIKE ANY OTHER TIME SOMEBODY CALLS ME ABOUT SOMETHING THAT IS HAPPENING WITH THE DEPARTMENT HEAD OR ANYTHING WITHIN SOMETHING THAT I SUPERVISED OR PARTIALLY SUPERVISED. I WILL DO THE DUE DILIGENCE AND I WILL TRY TO GET TO WHAT IT IS. A LOT OF TIMES WHAT I HAVE FOUND IS THERE ARE TWO SIDES TO THE STORY.
EITHER ONE OF THEM IS NECESSARILY ALL RIGHT OR ALL WRONG. SOMETIMES IT IS MISCOMMUNICATION. SOMETIMES IT IS PERSONNEL CONFLICT. IF I DETERMINED SOMETHING WAS DONE WRONG INTENTIONALLY BY A DEPARTMENT HEAD THAT WOULD HURT SOMEONE OF THIS COUNTY, TRUST ME I WOULD DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT.
>> I AM WRITING IT DOWN. >> DOES THAT MEAN PUBLICLY EMBARRASSING SOMEONE -- I AM JUST USING THIS AS AN EXAMPLE.
THERE WAS A RIDICULOUS EXAMPLE EARLIER.
THAT'S NOT HO -- THAT'S NOT HOW I DO BUSINESS.
WE HAVE A CERTAIN TRUST. WHEN I ARRIVED HERE AT THE COUNTY JANUARY 1ST OR SECOND WHATEVER IT WAS OF 2011 MS. MILLER WAS IN THE HR DEPARTMENT.
I CAME HERE WITH ZERO UPDZING OF ANYTHING.
UNDERSTANDING OF ANYTHING. MOST PEOPLE WILL AGREE THAT I PROBABLY STILL HAVE NO UNDERSTANDING OF ANYTHING.
I REALLY HAD NO IDEA. AND I HAD MY OWN IDEAS AND MANY ARE WRONG AND PROBABLY STILL ARE WRONG.
WHAT I TRIED TO DO IS GET TO KNOW PEOPLE AND UNDERSTAND WHAT HAD BEEN DONE AND WHY IT HAD BEEN DONE.
NOT THAT I DIDN'T FIND WAYS IT COULD BE DONE BETTER AND THAT'S OBVIOUS. IT IS GOOD TO HAVE FRESH PERSPECTIVE. SOME OF THE IDEAS THAT COME UP, MY OLD CROTCHITY SELF SAYS OH COME ON, AND THEN WE SAY OH MAYBE WE WERE DOING IT BECAUSE THAT'S HOW IT WAS DONE.
I AM NOT ARGUING THAT DOING THINGS DIFFERENTLY IS NOT SOMETHING WE SHOULDN'T DO AND I AM NOT THE BEST ONE TO LEADS THE EFFORT AND I APPRECIATE THOSE WHO DO.
I JUST WANT US, LOOKING FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, WHEN I FIRST GOT HERE. AND AT THAT TIME IT WAS A FULL TRANSITION IN THE COUNTY SIMILAR TO THIS.
IF WE WANT TO LOOK AT THINGS PARTISAN -- I WILL EXPLAIN WHY WE SHOULDN'T, BUT THIS COMMISSIONER'S COURT WAS FOUR DEMOCRATIC AND ONE REPUBLICAN AND IN AN ELECTION OVERNIGHT AND BOOM, CHANGED EVERYTHING. IT HAPPENS SOMETIMES.
IT HAPPENED AND THERE WAS A LOT OF ANXIETY.
THERE WAS ANXIETY WITH EMPLOYEES AND DEPARTMENT HEADS.
THERE WAS A DRAMATIC CHANGE. WHAT ARE THEY GONNA DO? ALL OF A SUDDEN THEY SHOW UP ON A TUESDAY AND WHAT ARE THEY GONNA DO? BELIEVE ME.
THERE WERE PEOPLE TRYING TO INFLUENCE THOSE COMING INTO OFFICE. TRUST THIS PERSON AND NOT THIS PERSON AND ALL THIS. IT WAS HAPPENING.
IT WAS PEOPLE HERE FOR QUITE AWHILE AND JUST WEREN'T -- THEY HAD ANXIETY. THEY NATURALLY WANTED TO PROTECT THEMSELVES AND THEIR EMPLOYEES. NOT THAT THAT TRANSITION WAS DONE PERFECTLY. IT WASN'T OBVIOULY.
I THOUGHT THAT AFTER AWHILE EVERYBODY REALIZED, OKAY.
THAT'S THE REASON. THAT IS A HUGE CHANGE FOR ALL OF A SUDDEN TO WAKE UP ONE DAY AND KNOW THAT EVERYBODY THAT YOU HAVE BEEN DEALING WITH AND WORKING FOR AND TRUSTED AND WORKING ALONGSIDE IS NOW GONE AND YOUR JOB IS IN THERE.
I TKPWAEUFPBED -- I GAINED A LITTLE RESPECT FOR THAT AND I WAS WRONG ON HOW I CAME IN WITH MY IDEAS OF WHAT SHOULD HAPPEN HERE, AND I LEARNED AND I GOT TO KNOW PEOPLE AND I FOUND OUT -- I ACTUALLY CAME IN LIKE, WELL, THERE IS PROBABLY A LOT OF WASTE GOING ON. THERE ALWAYS IS IN GOVERNMENT.
THERE ARE PROBABLY A BUNCH OF EMPLOYEES NOT DOING THING.
SOMEBODY NEEDS TO GET IN THERE AND REALLY TAKE A LOOK BECAUSE THAT -- YOU KNOW, YOU FIND OUT IN ANY ORGANIZATION THERE ARE
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WAYS. THE OVERWHELMING MAJORITY OF PEOPLE WHO WORK FOR THE COUNTY WORK HERE FOR -- THEY LIKED IT.THEY LIKED THE JOB AND THEY LIKED BEING PART OF THIS.
THEY ENJOYED THE WORK AND THEY ENJOYED THE PEOPLE.
THEY REALLY DID. A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE BEEN HERE A LONGTIME. MY PERSPECTIVE COMES FROM THAT.
I UNDERSTAND PERSPECTIVES ON THIS COME FROM OTHERS THAT ARE DIFFERENT FROM MY. I WANT TO EXPLAIN THAT'S HOW I FEEL AND I WANT US TO WORK HARD. WHATEVER HAPPENS WITH ANY DECISIONS THIS COURT MAKES WHETHER IT IS ON THIS SALARY STUDY AND ITS IMPLEMENTATION WHICH WE ALL TALKED ABOUT AND WE ARE ALL ANXIOUS TO GET DONE AND GET DONE CORRECTLY, THAT I AM ALWAYS WILLING TO SIT DOWN AND TALK WITH WHOEVER IT IS TO TALK ABOUT ISSUES, ESPECIALLY IF IT IS AN ISSUE WITH SOMEONE THAT REPORTS TO ME. I DO CARE AND I WANT TO GET TO THE BOTTOM OF THINGS, BUT MOST OF ALL I WANT PEOPLE TO GET ALONG AND WORK TOGETHER. WE ARE ALL DIFFERENT.
THAT'S FINE. WE DON'T HAVE TO GET ALONG.
BUT PROMISE THAT OUR JOB -- OF ALL THE PEOPLE THAT PUT US HERE, THE PEOPLE WHO PAY OUR PAYCHECKS IF WE WORK FOR THEM WE WILL BE OKAY. THERE WILL BE ISSUES WE HAVE TO
ADDRESS AND WE WILL DO IT. >> ALL RIGHT.
MS. MILLER WOULD YOU LIKE TO WRAP UP?
>> I WOULD LIKE TO CONTINUE, PLEASE.
>> HOWEVER YOU WANT TO SAY IT. >> ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE EMPLOYEE FROM THE HR DEPARTMENT THAT I CAN ANSWER?
>> JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT THE MESSAGE IS CLEAR, THIS WAS AN EDIT THAT WAS UNSOLICITED AND SHE PUNCHED OUT.
IT WAS NOT LEFT OPEN. SHE WANTED TO PUNCH OUT AT A CERTAIN TIME. IT WAS NOT AGREED UPON.
DID NOT AGREE FOR THIS TRANSACTION.
>> THE TWO EMPLOYEES THAT WERE TERMINATED FROM THE OTHER OFFICE THAT MS. TENARIO TALKED ABOUT, I HAD ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH THEIR TERMINATION OR WITH THEM BEING HIRED IN THE SUBSEQUENT DEPARTMENT. I HEARD ABOUT THEIR TERMINATION WHILE I WAS IN THE SINGELSBY OFFICE -- MS. INNING TKPWELGS -- MS. INGALSBE OFFICE. THAT WAS THE 31ST -- I DON'T REMEMBER WHAT DAY THEY WERE TERMINATED.
THIS IS HOW I SEE THE TERMINATION.
THEY DIDN'T AOEP TAKE A -- THEY DIDN'T EVEN TAKE A LUNCH BREAK AND THEY GOT THEMSELVESES A NEW JOB.
I DID RECEIVE A MESSAGE FROM A LEADERSHIP POSITION IN THE DEPARTMENT THAT THEY WENT TO WORK FOR ADVISING ME HE WOULD HIRE THEM AND HOW WOULD HE CODE THEIR PAYROLL CHANGE NOTICE.
I SAID, WELL, IF THEY ARE WORKING TODAY, THEN THEY ARE A TRANSFER. THEY DON'T LOSE ANY BENEFITS.
LIKE I SAID, I DON'T EVEN THINK THEY TOOK A LUNCH BREAK AND THEY WENT AND GOT THEMSELVES ANOTHER JOB.
I HAD ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH WHERE THEY WENT TO WORK.
I ONLY KNEW VIA THE RUMOR MILL OR AMONG COMMUNICATION THAT IT WAS TERMINATED FROM THE LOCATION THEY WORKED.
AND THEN I WAS GETTING A TEXT MESSAGE WHEN I AM HERE IN COMMISSIONER'S COURT ABOUT HOW DO WE TREAT THIS TRANSACTION.
I THINK IT IS A GREAT THING THAT OUR EMPLOYEES WERE ABLE TO TAKE CARE OF THEMSELVES AND THEY WERE ABLE TO GO WHERE THEY KNEW THERE WERE VACANCIES AND THEY COULD GO TO WORK.
HR HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH THAT. IF I AM ASKED I AM HAPPY TO HELP OUT TO TRANSITION TO ANOTHER LOCATION, BUT I WAS NOT ASKED ABOUT THAT. I WILL SAY THAT I AM THE ONE TO ASK ABOUT THIS IN OPEN COURT. I ASKED THAT BECAUSE I KNEW WHAT WOULD HAPPEN. I ASKED ALL FIVE OF YOU IN AN EMAIL ON FRIDAY EVENING AND VERBALLY TALKED TO COMMISSIONER INGALSBE, BUT ASKED ALL FIVE IN AN EMAIL TO LET ME KNOW THE TOPICS SO I COULD BE PREPARED. IT IS GOOD THAT I AM QUICK ON MY FEET BECAUSE THE SPONSOR OF THE ITEM DID NOT RESPOND AND DID NOT EVER RESPOND OR CALL OR TEXT OR ANYTHING.
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I AM HERE WITHOUT KNOWING WHAT THE TOPICS ARE.I ASKED FOR THAT AS A PROFESSIONAL COURTESY AS A DEPARTMENT HEAD OF THE COUNTY, AND SOMEONE THAT DESERVES TO KNOW WHAT THE TOPICS WERE. THE OTHER THEY CAN -- THING I ASK IS CIVILITY SO I APPRECIATE THE CIVILITY AT THE PODIUM, BUT QUITE THE ROUND UP I WILL SAY TO BRING PEOPLE IN TO SPEAK AGAINST ME, BUT YOU COULDN'T EVEN GIVE ME THE PROFESSIONAL COURTESY OF TELLING ME WHAT THE TOPICS WERE. IF I AM THE ONE WITH THE PROBLEM, THEN SOMEBODY NEEDS TO BE TALKING TO ME INDIVIDUALLY.
YOU ALL HAVE MY NUMBER. YOU ALL KNOW WHERE I'M AT.
I AM HAPPY TO DISCUSS THIS IN ANYWAY YOU DEEM FIT IT IS IN A MORE CIVIL MANNER. IN TERMS OF THE SALARY EXSKEPGS -- EXCEPTION I WANT TO ADDRESS WHAT MR. HIGGINS' CONCERN WAS WE HAD ON THE AGENDA THAT VERY DAY TO ASK THE COURT TO DISCONTINUE SALARY EXCEPTIONS BECAUSE OF WHERE THE EXCEPTIONS MIGHT PUT EMPLOYEES. IT HAD ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH THEY WERE HIRING AND THE FACT THAT THEY PROBABLY DESERVED THAT OR MORE IN THEIR WAGES. IT HAD TO DO WITH THE SALARY ADMINISTRATION PROCESS THAT I WOULD EITHER NOT APPROVE A SALARY EXCEPTION WHICH YOU IN THE POLICY HAVE GIVEN ME THE AUTHORITY TO DO. YOU CAN COME TO COURT AFTERWARDS. SO WE HAD ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO -- SO IT HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH THE CANDIDATES OR THE FACT THAT THEY DESERVED AT LEAST WHAT HE WAS ASKING FOR OR MORE.
WE ARE IMPLEMENTING NEW AND DIFFERENT SALARIES AND HOW THOSE EXCEPTIONS IMPACT IN THAT PROCESS.
ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT MR. HIGGINS COMMENTS? I WILL ASK ARE THERE OTHERS THAT YOU HAVE BROUGHT FORWARD?
>> MS. MILLER, I WOULD LIKE FOR YOU TO KNOW THAT WHEN YOU CALLED ME, I ANSWERED. I THINK THERE WAS ONE SUNDAY IN THE EVENING THAT I MISSED YOUR CALL, BUT EVERY TIME YOU CALL ME I ANSWER. AND I HAVE NO DESIRE TO GO BACK AND FORTH. THIS IS AN AGENDA ITEM I SPONSORED IN EXECUTIVE SESSION. BUT TO HONOR YOUR WISHES AND TO PROVIDE YOU THE PROFESSIONAL COURTESY, I PUT IT IN OPEN AS YOU REQUESTED. IT IS IN OPEN COURT.
BUT IT IS -- IT SHOULD BE OF NO MYSTERY TO YOU WHAT THE CONCERN IS ABOUT BECAUSE I SAID IN THE LAST TIME WE GATHERED THAT I WILL BRING IT BACK TO COURT SO THAT WE CAN FINISH THE CONVERSATION AND I HAVE NO DESIRE EMOTIONALLY.
YOU CAN TAKE MY PRESSURE, MY PULSE.
I HAVE NO DESIRE EMOTIONALLY TO CAUSE YOU ANY TRAUMA.
I ONLY NEED TO, AS MY JOB, TO ADDRESS THE CONCERNS THAT CAME TO MY EYES. I DON'T WANT TO SAY I AM MINDING MY OWN BUSINESS AND THERE IS A GROUP OF PEOPLE OUTSIDE MY DOOR.
BUT I WILL SAY IT THIS WAY, I WAS NOT LOOKING TO WHAT IS GOING ON IN THE HR DEPARTMENT OR HOW YOU WERE INTERACTING WITH ALL OF THE ELECTED OFFICES. THEY CAME TO ME.
THEY CAME TO ME AND THEY KEPT COMING TO ME.
PLEASE UNDERSTAND MOST COMPLETELY MY ONLY AIM IS TO PROVIDE THE DOCUMENTATION THAT IS NECESSARY AND BOW OUT.
THANK YOU, MA'AM. COMMISSIONERS, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? THANK YOU.
IF I AM NOT MISTAKEN DID WE CARRY ALL OF THE SUBDIVISION
ITEMS? >> WE HAVE SEVERAL ITEMS LEFT.
>> I KNOW I HAVE A LOT OF TICK MARKS ON THIS AND NOW I AM
[J2. PLN-2124-NP; Discussion and possible action regarding the Ecclesia Subdivision, Preliminary Plan (1 Lot). SHELL/PACHECO]
MAKING SURE I DON'T MISS. IT J2? WE WILL MAKE A BEELINE TO YOU AS QUICKLY AS WE ARE DONE.>> J2PLN-2124-NP, DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION REGARDING THE
[05:10:05]
ECCLESIA SUBDIVISION PRELIMINARY PLAN 1 LOT.>> MR. PACHECO? >> THIS IS A REAL QUICKLY A ONE-LOT SUBDIVISION APPROXIMATELY 3.0 IN ACRES AND WATER FOR -- AND IT WILL BE ACCOMPLISHED AND WASTE WATER ACCOMPLISHED BY AN ON SITE SEWAGE FACILITY.
WITH THIS PRELIMINARY PLAN THERE ARE NO VARIANCES REQUESTED AND STAFF RECOMMEND -- RECOMMENDS APPROVAL.
WITH THE PLAN THERE ARE STILL SOME REMAINING REVIEW COMMENTS.
>> PLEASE AS CUSTAMAY -- CUSTOMARY, TELL US THE
CONDITION. >> THE DIGITAL PLOW THAT WAS USED TO CREATE THE SUBDIVISION PLAT.
THE AUTO CAD FILE HAD SOME ISSUES PENDING COMMENTS THAT DID NOT GO ALONG WITH THE DIGITAL COMMENTS.
THE OTHER IS THE PLAT AND THE ASPECT OF DESIGNATING THE APPROPRIATE REQUIREMENTS PURSUANT TO THE HAYS COUNTY TRANSPORTATION PLAN FOR THE ROAE DEVELOPMENT IS LOCATED ON -- YES. OUR COUNTY TRANSPORTATION PLAN HAS A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF WIDTH FOR THE ROAD AND SO THE PLAT IS PURSUANT TO THE RULES NEEDS TO ILLUSTRATE THAT APPROPRIATE
RIGHT OF WAY. >> AND WHILE WE ARE AT IT -- I WILL SAY IT QUICK. SOME PLATS HAVE COME TO ME TO SIGN WITHOUT MY SIGNATURE SPOT. JUST A HEADS UP.
ANYTHING ELSE, COMMISSIONERS? >> JUST WANT TO MAKE MY MOTION TO APPROVE UPON THE CONDITIONS STATED BY MR. PACHECO.
>> COMMISSIONER INGALSBE. >> YES.
>> COMMISSIONER COHEN. >> YES.
[J3. PLN-2099-PC; Las Lomas, Sec 2, Lot 3-C, Replat; Call for a Public Hearing on March 14th, 2023, followed by discussion and possible action regarding the Las Lomas, Sec 2, Lot 3-C, Replat. SHELL/PACHECO]
>> COMMISSIONER SHELL. >> YES.
>> COMMISSIONER SMITH. >> YES.
>> J3. >> POSSIBLE ACTION TO RENAME --
>> ARE YOU ON J3? >> I'M SORRY.
PLN-2099-PC LAS LOMAS IS SECTION 2 LOT 3-C REPLAT, CALL FOR A PUBLIC HEARING ON MARCH 14TH, 2023, FOLLOWED BY DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION REGARDING THE LAS LOMAS
IS SECTION 2 LOT 3-C REPLAT. >> SO MOVED.
>> SECOND. >> PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.
>> COMMISSIONER SMITH? >> YES.
>> COMMISSIONER SHELL. >> YES.
>> COMMISSIONER COHEN. >> YES.
>> COMMISSIONER INGALSBE. >> YES.
[K3. Discussion and possible action to authorize the renaming of a portion of Dacy Lane to Science Hall Loop. INGALSBE/PACHECO]
>> K3. >> DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO AUTHORIZE THE RENAMING OF A PORTION OF DACY LANE TO
SCIENCE HIGH SCHOOL LOOP. >> SO MOVED.
>> SECOND. >> JUDGE THIS HAPPENED BECAUSE OF THE NEW ALIGN MINT -- ALIGNMENT OF DACY LANE.
IT LEFT AN OLD PORTION AND WE ARE RENAMING THAT.
>> GREAT IDEA. >> CAN I PUT ONE FOOT NOTE REAL QUICK, THE ACTUAL NAMING -- SO THE NAMING OF AN ADDRESSING FORM WILL BE SENT OUT -- WILL NOT BE SENT OUT UNTIL THE COUNTY IS FINALIZING THE ACCEPTANCE OF THE CONSTRUCTION FOR THAT NEW ALIGNMENT. THE LATEST TIME FRAME WOULD BE LATE 2023 AND ANY CONVERSATIONS WITH THE DIRECTOR OF
TRANSPORTATION. >> BEAUTIFUL AND THANK YOU.
>> CALL THE ROLL. >> COMMISSIONER COHEN.
>> YES. >> COMMISSIONER SHELL.
>> YES. >> COMMISSIONER INGALSBE.
>> YES. >> COMMISSIONER SMITH.
>> ROXANNE ARE THERE STRAGLERS THAT I DIDN'T OPEN?
>> DO YOU WANT TO DO MAJOR YALE -- JAIL UPDATE AND OTHERS
BEFORE WE DO EXEC? >> NO BECAUSE I DIDN'T GET IT IN
I MAY WANT TO OPEN, IF YOU COULD, JUDGE, M4.
>> M4, DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION OF THE USE OF FEDERAL OR OTHER GRANT FUNDING RELATED TO COVID-19 --
[M6. Discussion and possible action related to proposed bills in the 87th Regular Session of the Texas Legislature and to consider adoption of resolution(s) regarding proposed bills. The Court may opt to withdraw to Executive Session during this item to consult with legal counsel pursuant to Texas Government Code 551.071. SMITH]
I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT. I SINCERELY APOLOGIZE.
>> M6. DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION RELATED TO THE PROPOSED BILLS IN THE 87TH REGULAR SESSION OF THE TEXAS LEGISLATURE AND TO CONSIDER ADOPTION OF RESOLUTIONS REGARDING PROPOSED BILLS. THE COURT MAY OPT TO WITHDRAW TO EXECUTIVE SESSION DURING THIS ITEM TO CONSULT WITH LEGAL COUNSEL PURSUANT TO TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE 551.071.
>> THANK YOU JUDGE. I JUST WANTED TO UPDATE THE COURT. THE THREE RESOLUTIONS WE PASSED LAST WEEK, THERE ARE BILLS THAT ARE EITHER IN DRAFT STAGE OR FOR PENDING PURSUANT TO THE THREE RESOLUTIONS WE PASSED.
I WOULD ENCOURAGE THE ENTIRE COURT TO ATTEND OF THE -- YOU KNOW, WHEN WE ARE NOT HERE ON A TUESDAY, ATTEND THE TUESDAY BREAKFAST, THE LEGISLATIVE BREAKFAST THAT IS HOSTED EITHER IN PERSON OR IF YOU CAN'T MAKE IT, THEY ACTUALLY HAVE ZOOM AVAILABILITY. THEY DO A GREAT JOB OF UPDATING
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US ON WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE CAPITOL EACH WEEK AND GIVING US BACKGROUND INFORMATION THAT ALLOWS US TO GO UP WITH A MORE EDUCATED VIEW WHEN WE TALK TO OUR MEMBERS OF THE STATE HOUSE.AS THE BILLS ARE FILED AND THE DEADLINE IS LIKENED OF NEXT WEEK I WANT TO SAY. BUT AS WE -- AS THOSE ARE FILED THAT HAD AN IMPACT ON THE COUNTY, I HOPE AT OUR NEXT SESSION I CAN BRING THOSE BACK AND GIVE YOU THE LIST OF THEM THAT I KNOW WE ARE GETTING THE OVERALL LIST FROM OUR CONSULTANT. IF IT LOOKS LIKE IT WILL PASS OR BE CONSIDERED IN A SERIOUS WAY. I WILL BE BRINGING THOSE BACK FOR US TO LOOK AT. I WANTED TO GIVE YOU THE UPDATE.
>> THANK YOU. AD IT IS IMPORTANT TO HEAR THESE THINGS BECAUSE WE ARE ALL INVOLVED IN THOSE KIND OF SPACES WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT IT IS A GOOD IDEA FOR US.
IT IS A GOOD IDEA FOR US TO ENSURE THE PROPERTY REPRESENTATION OF COUNTY BUSINESS IS SENT TO THE CAPITOL, FOR EXAMPLE, THE COST OF HOUSING INMATES AND CONSTANT MENTAL HEALTH AND MAKING STATEMENT THAT'S ARE MOST ACCURATE AND MOST COMPLETE IS MOST -- IS TO OUR BENEFIT.
WE DON'T WANT THINGS GOING OUT THERE MISREPRESENTATIVE OR SAYING THINGS THAT ARE INACCURATE.
IT COULD BE BY ACCIDENT, BUT IT IS GOOD TO STAND AND WATCH AND MAKE SURE ALL THINGS MOVING FORWARD ARE TRUE AND COMPLETE.
>> RIGHT. I THINK THAT'S THE REASON THAT I WAS SO ADAMANT THAT ANYTHING THAT THE COUNTY PUTS FORWARD OR ANYTHING THAT WE AS THE COUNTY REPRESENT IN THE CAPITOL, I DON'T FEEL COMFORTABLE AND I DON'T THINK ANY MEMBERS OF OUR COURT SHOULD FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH THOSE UNLESS WE HAVE A RESOLUTION THAT SUPPORTS THOSE. AND SO THAT'S THE REASON.
TO START OFF WE HAD THE THREE. I THINK WE WILL HAVE MORE FOR US TO ACTUALLY BE ABLE TO DEBATE AND LOOK AT.
I ENCOURAGE Y'ALL TO BRING FORWARD ANY AND WE WILL OPEN UP THE ITEM. IT IS A STANDING AGENDA ITEM SO IF THERE IS ANYTHING Y'ALL SEE THAT THE COUNTY SHOULD BE INVOLVED IN OR IF THERE IS ANYTHING GOING IN THE -- MORE THAN LIKELY GIVEN THE WAY OUR CAPITOL WORKS, IF THERE IS ANYTHING THAT IS PROBLEMATIC FOR THE COUNTY THAT YOU RECOGNIZE IN THOSE BILL TRACKS, PLEASE, PLEASE BRING IT FORWARD AND WE
WE HOPE THE GOVERNMENT OF THE STATE IS INTENDING ON BEING SMALLER AND NOT BIGGER TAKING UP OUR SPACE OF GOVERNMENT.
COMMISSIONER INGALSBE? >> I WAS GOING TO MENTION THAT I AM WORKING ON THE UNFUNDED MANDATES RESOLUTION.
I AM STILL WAITING ON SOME INFORMATION AND SO HOPING TO HAVE THAT READY FOR OUR NEXT COURT.
AND, YEAH, I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU ALSO ANYONE THAT CAN ATTEND THE TAC BREAKFASTS, I DO THEM VIRTUALLY, AOURBLG -- USUALLY, BUT THEY ARE INFORMATIVE AND KEEPS IT UP-TO-DATE ON WHAT IS
GOING ON. >> I THINK THEY ARE SETTING A DIFFERENT WORD CHOICE VERSUS UNFUNDED MANDATES.
I THINK THEY ARE GETTING RID OF THAT DESCRIPTION AND USING A FRESH ONE. WHICH IS A GOOD IDEA.
I LIKE THAT IDEA. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
MR. KENNEDY, ARE THERE EXECUTIVE SESSION ITEMS WE SHOULD NOT
OPEN? >> DO NOT NEED NUMBER 5.
WE DO NOT HAVE ADDITIONAL UPDATES.
>> OPEN 2, 3, 4, 6 AND 7. EXCUSE ME ONE SECOND.
DO YOU HAVE AN UPDATE? >> YES.
>> I AM SO SORRY. I DID NOT REALIZE.
[M5. Updates of community health assessment by local health department. BECERRA]
PLEASE OPEN AGENDA ITEM M5. YOU HAVE BEEN MAGNIFICENTLY PATIENT. NEXT TIME JUST -->> THAT WAS MY BAD. >> GOOD EVENING.
COMMISSIONERS -- >> CAN WE OPEN IT FIRST?
>> M5, UP TKAOEUTS OF COMMUNITY HEALTH ASSESSMENT BY LOCAL
HEALTH DEPARTMENT. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR PATIENTS -- PAY SHEPBGS.
>> HEALTH EQUITY AND ENGAGEMENT MANAGER, MATTHEW GONZALEZ.
JUST A FEW UPDATES REALLY QUICKLY AND THE DOCUMENT THAT'S I PROVIDED, WE -- I UPDATED THE COMMUNITY PARTNERS LIST ON THE BACK AND THERE ARE A FEW ADDITIONS THERE.
WE INCLUDED MORE REPRESENTATIVES FROM TEXAS STATE UNIVERSITY SPECIFICALLY IN ILLUSTRATION. THEY ARE DOCTORATES OF PUBLIC HEALTH AND THEY WILL BE ABLE TO HELP US WITH THE QUAN DAY TIFF -- QUAN DAY TIFF -- QUANTITATIVE ASSESSMENTS WHEN IT COMES TO ASSESSING THE PUCK -- THE PUBLIC HEALTH NEEDS.
WE INVITED THE BRANCH OF SAN MARCOS.
THEY HAVE DONE SOME ASSESSMENTS AS FAR AS LOOKING AT THE HEALTH NEEDS OF THE COUNTY AND ALSO THE AREA OF THE MARKET SPECIFICALLY.
WE WANTED TO INVITE THEM TO BE A PART OF THE DISCUSSION.
GOING BACK UP, WE COMPLETED PHASE 1 OF THE PROJECT INITIATION AND ORGANIZING AND ENGAGING PARPT NEITHERS.
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ENGAGING PARTNERS. THE LAST PARTS ARE ASSESSING THE SITES, BUT FOR THE MOST PART WE ARE CONSIDERING THAT COMPLETE AND MOVING TO PHASE 2 WHICH IS ENVISIONING -- WHICH TOMORROW WE ARE GOING TO BE HOSTING A COMMUNITY VISIONING -- ENVISIONING SESSION FROM 2 TO 4 P.M.WE ENCOURAGE THE RESIDENTS OF HAYS COUNTY AND WHATEVER CITY YOU ARE COMING FROM TO GO THERE AND SPEAK YOUR CONCERNS.
REALLY WE WANT TO KNOW WHERE HAYS COUNTY CAN BE HEALTH-WISE IN FIVE YEARS. WE WANT TO SEE WHAT OTHER PEOPLE THINK IT MAY LOOK LIKE. RECENTLY I RECEIVED A CALL THAT IT INCLUDES ONE HEALTH. WE START CONSIDERING OUR HEALTH AND THE HEALTH OF WILDLIFE AND THE PETS WE OWN.
I ENCOURAGE THEM TO SPEAK AT THE EVENTS AND THEY TOLD ME THEIR INTENTION TO DO SO. THE NEXT UPDATE IS WE HOSTED THE VIRTUAL KICKOFF ON MONDAY FEBRUARY 27TH, SO YESTERDAY WITH THE STEERING COMMITTEE MEMBERS.
IT WAS AN EXCELLENT, DIVERSE GROUP OF INDIVIDUALS.
NOT ONLY DIVERSE WHEN IT COMES TO DEMOGRAPHICS, BUT ACCORDING TO WHERE WE INTERACT IN THE HEALTH CASE SIR STEM, I THOUGHT IT WAS INCREDIBLE AND IT IS THE START OF WHAT WE ARE GOING TO BE DOING. I -- I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT IS THE REVIEW OF THE DATA. OTHER THAN THAT I AM LOOKING FOR ANY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU.UL.
I WAS GRATEFUL TO BE PART OF THE VISIONING PIECE YESTERDAY.
AGAIN THIS IS ON THE FOREFRONT IN THE COUNTY.
PUBLIC HEALTH. PUBLIC HEALTH IS A VERY BIG DEAL AND THANK YOU FOR ALL YOU ARE DOING.
COMMISSIONERS, QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS AND CONCERNS? HAVE A WONDERFUL REST OF YOUR DAY.
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THANK YOU. PLEASE OPEN 2 THROUGH 7 MINUS 5.>> L2, EXECUTIVE SESSION PURSUANT TO SECTIONS 551.071 AND 551.072, THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE, CONSULTATION WITH COUNSEL AND DELIBERATION REGARDING THE PURCHASE -RBGZ EXCHANGE, LEASE AND/OR VALUE OF RIGHT OF WAY LOCATED AT OR NEAR WINDY HILL ROAD IN PRECINCT 1. POSSIBLE DISCUSSION AND/OR ACTION MAY FOLLOW IN OPEN COURT. L3, EXECUTIVE SESSION PURSUANT TO SECTIONS 551.071 AND 551.072 OF THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE.
CON CONSULTATION WITH COUNSEL AND DELIBERATION REGARDING THE PURCHASE, EXCHANGE, LEASE AND/OR VALUE OF REAL PROPERTY LOCATED AT 2400 NORTH IH35, SAN MARCOS. POSSIBLE DISCUSSION AND/OR ACTION MAY FOLLOW IN OPEN COURT. L4, EXECUTIVE SESSION PURSUANT TO SECTION 551.071 OF THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE.
CONSULTATION WITH COUNSEL REGARDING PENDING AND/OR CONTEMPLATED LITIGATION INVOLVING HA*EUDZ -- HAYS COUNTY. POSSIBLE ACTION MAY FOLLOW IN OPEN COURT. L6, EXECUTIVE SESSION PURSUANT TO SECTIONS 551.071 AND 551.087 OF THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE.
CONSULTATION WITH COUNSEL AND DELIBERATION REGARDING ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT NEGOTIATIONS ASSOCIATED WITH PROJECT CREATE.
POSSIBLE DISCUSSION AND -- AND/OR ACTION MAY HAPPEN IN OPEN COURT. AND L7 EXECUTIVE SESSION PURSUANT TO SECTIONS 551.071 AND 551.072 OF THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE, CONSULTATION WITH COUNSEL AND DELIBERATION REGARDING THE PURCHASE, EXCHANGES, LEASE AND/OR VALUE OF REAL PROPERTY OWNED BY HAYS COUNTY LOCATED AT 401 VETERANS DRIVE, KYLE IN PRECINCT 3. POSSIBLE DISCUSSION AND/OR
ACTION MAY FOLLOW IN OPEN COURT. >> JUST IN CASE IF YOU WILL OPEN
>> YES. >> L1, EXECUTIVE SESSION PURSUANT TO SECTIONS 551.071 AND 551.074 OF THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT.
CONSULTATION WITH COUNSEL AND DELIBERATION REGARDING EMPLOYMENT AND DUTIES OF ALL INDIVIDUAL POSITIONS WITHIN THE OFFICE OF HAYS COUNTY HUMAN RESOURCES.
POSSIBLE DISCUSSION AND/OR ACTION MAY FOLLOW IN OPEN COURT.
>> THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE. WE WILL BEGIN WITH 6.
ANYONE ELSE NOT TIED DIRECTLY IT IS ITEM NUMBER 6.
>>> SO WE'RE COMING BACK OUT FOR DISCUSSION, MY QUESTION IS, WHEN ITEMS, WHEN IT WAS PRESENTED IN THE PAST IN EXECUTIVE SESSION, I
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WAS ASKED TO PROVIDE THE ITEMS OF DISCUSSION, THE PAPER TRAIL, THE DOCUMENTATION. AND I DID PROVIDE THAT, AND AS ONE OF THE SUPERVISORS OF THIS POSITION, I HAVE EVERY INTENTION OF MAKING THIS PART OF THE DOCUMENTATION ABOUT THE WAY THINGS ARE GOING. THE KEY THINGS THAT I'M GOING TO INCLUDE IN THE THOUGHT PROCESS ARE THE TESTIMONY BY THE DA.SAYING, THAT POLICY WAS -- INPROPERLY BY MS. MILLER, AMONG OTHER THINGS. AND I COULD HAVE EFFORTLESSLY ASKED MORE PEOPLE TO SHOW UP. I DIDN'T WANT TO MAKE A BIG DEAL OUT OF THIS IN SOME KIND OF OPEN COURT PROCESS.
BUT THERE'S BEEN ENOUGH SPACES, ENOUGH OPPOSITION AND INDIVIDUALS WHERE I CAN'T IGNORE IT, AND I WON'T, AND IT'S MY JOB TO ADDRESS IT. I WANT EVERYONE WHO'S OUR COWORKER TO KNOW AND FEEL THAT WHATEVER YOU'RE DOING, DO IT TO THE HIGHEST AND BEST OF YOUR ABILITIES AND KNOW THAT WE AS A COURT ARE HERE TO PROTECT YOU. I'M DOING WITH THE ITEMS BROUGHT FORWARD TO ME. THE COMMISSIONERS UNDERSTAND IT WELL ENOUGH, I HAVE NO -- BUT THE ITEMS BROUGHT TO ME IN THIS QUANTITY AND CASES, I MUST BRING IT TO THE COURT.
THAT WAS MY INTENT. TO MAKE AN EXECUTIVE CONVERSATION AND AVAILABLE TO THOSE WE HAVE THE CONVERSATIONS ABOUT, IT WAS ASKED TO BE BROUGHT IN COURT.
>> I DON'T KNOW I HAVE -- >> I WAS JUST GOING TO PROVIDE THAT CLOSING WRAP UP CONVERSATION POINT IN EXECUTIVE SESSION BUT ALSO ASKED TO -- WITH THAT CLOSING WRAP UP CONVERSATION. I WAS NOT GOING TO NOT HAVE IT.
>> I DON'T, I APPRECIATE SHARING YOUR DOCUMENTATION WITH US.
THAT'S WHAT I WOULD WANT. WE HAVE A MOTION ON ITEM NO. 3.
>> I DO. I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO AUTHORIZE THE USE OF OUR FUNDS FOR PURCHASE OF 2400 NORTH IH 35, ENTERING THE REQUEST CONFIRM THE AUTHORITY OF THE USE OF
FUNDS FOR THAT PURPOSE. >> SECOND.
>> AND JUDGE, THIS IS APPROXIMATELY TEN ACRES, FORMER PROPERTY OF -- AND A USEFUL CONNECTION PIECE IN THE REGIONAL
PARKS PLAN. >> BEAUTIFUL, CALL THE ROLL.
>> AND THE MOTION, COMMISSIONER NUMBER FOUR.
>> THANK YOU, I WOULD LIKE TO AUTHORIZE THE OFFICE OF GENERAL COUNSEL TO FILE A LETTER WITH EAST TEXAS REQUESTING TO WITHDRAW THE APPEAL TO THE WORKERS COMPENSATION IN RELATION TO DWC -- AND A SECOND POSSIBLE. THANK YOU.
AND I'D LIKE I TO NOTE THAT IT MEEPZ DIVISION OF WORKER -- DIVISION OF WORKERS COMPENSATION.
FOR CLARIFICATION, COULD YOU OUTLINE WHAT -- SO I'M NOT JUST
SENDING IT TO PART OF THE STATE. >> WE'RE UNDER CONTRACT WITH THEM FOR THE WORKER'S COMPENSATION INSURANCE.
>> I NEEDED THE CLARIFICATION THAT IT WAS A COMPANY, IN FACT.
>> A SECOND? PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.
>> JUDGE, I HAVE A MOTION FOR ITEM L 7, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO AUTHORIZE THE JUDGE TO -- A LEASE AGREEMENT, RELATED TO THE USE OF 401 VETERANS DRIVE, KYLE TEXAS.
>> ONE MORE MOTION. >> TO ADJOURN.
>> ADJOURNED.
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