F. 1. Adopt a Proclamation recognizing February 2023 as Dating Violence Awareness Month. B E C E R R A (Part 1 of 2)

[K. 4. Discussion and possible action to authorize County Court at Law to hire the County Court Reporter slot 0765-002 at the 73.48 percentile of the current salary range effective February 20, 2023. B E C E R R A /C OH E N /B R OWN]

PICTURE OR NO PICTURE, WE MOVE ON.

PLEASE OPEN K-4. THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR

WILLINGNESS TO SERVE. >>DR. CARDENAS: K-4, DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO AUTHORIZE COUNTY COURT OF LAW TO HIRE THE COUNTY COURT REPORTER SLOT 0765-002 AT THE 73.48 PERCENTILE OF THE CURRENT SALARY RANGE EFFECTIVE FEBRUARY 20, 2023.

>> SO MOVED. >> SECOND.

>>JUDGE BECERRA: A MOTION AND A SECOND.

TWO SIGNED UP TO SPEAK. JUDGE 'LINE BROWN, IF YOU WILL

PLEASE APPROACH THE PODIUM. >> THANK YOU, JUDGE.

WE HAVE HAD A SERIOUS ISSUE WITH HIRING COUNTY COURT AT LAW COURT REPORTERS RIGHT NOW. WE ARE SERIOUSLY UNDER STAFFED.

WE HAVE TWO. ONE OF THEM JUST STARTED.

SHE IS BRAND NEW. WE HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO HOLD COURT IN ALL THREE COURT ROOMS AS WE WOULD LIKE TO BE ABLE TO DO. OUR DOCKETS ARE VERY IF YOU WILL. WE DEFINITELY NEED HELP IN BEING ABLE TO MOVE THEM ALONG. THERE IS A NATIONWIDE SHORTAGE OF COURT REPORTERS RIGHT NOW. THEY ARE ABLE TO ASK FOR CONSIDERABLE AMOUNT MORE THAN WHAT WE ARE OFFERING IN HAYS COUNTY. WE HAVE LOST TWO IN DECEMBER, I BELIEVE, BECAUSE THEY WENT DOWN THE STREET TO MAKE A LOT MORE MONEY. I HAVE HAD ONE APPLICANT SINCE THE JOB HAS BEEN POSTED WHO IS QUALIFIED.

SHE IS EXTREMELY WELL QUALIFIED. SHE HAS OVER 30 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE AS A COURT REPORTER. SHE IS LICENSED IN MULTIPLE STATES. SHE IS WILLING TO COME TO HAYS COUNTY, BUT ONLY FOR THE SALARY THAT I PROPOSED.

SHE IS IN WISCONSIN NOW, SO A MAJOR MOVE FOR HER TO COME TO HAYS COUNTY BUT SHE IS WILLING TO DO SO IF WE CAN GET HER SALARY WHAT SHE CAN MAKE AT OTHER PLACES.

THIS IS A SERIOUS ISSUE FOR US. WE CAN NOT OPERATE COURT WITHOUT COURT REPORTERS. JUST NOT SOMETHING WE CAN DO.

I WOULD ASK THAT YOU APPROVE THIS TODAY.

>>JUDGE BECERRA: THANK YOU, JUDGE.

APPRECIATE IT. NEXT UP WE HAVE JUDGE JIMMY ALAN HALL. OR I SHOULD SAY JUDGE HALL.

>> THANK YOU, JUDGE ALAN HALL. I WILL ECHO WHAT JUDGE BROWN AND JUDGE JOHNSON OUR OTHER JUDGE IS IN IF YOU WILL SUPPORT.

DIFFICULT FOR US TO HOLD A COURT WHEN WE DON'T HAVE A COURT REPORTER. IT IS IMPOSSIBLE FOR ONE JUDGE.

IF YOU RECALL, I OFTEN SAY JUSTICE DELAYED IS JUSTICE DENIED. AND THAT IS WHAT IS HAPPENING.

NOT JUST THE JUDGES AND OUR STAFF, IT'S THE PARTIES, IT'S THE -- THE ATTORNEYS, EVERYONE IS STRUGGLING TO GET HEARD BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE A COURT REPORTER.

AND IT IS AN ISSUE THAT HAS TO BE ADDRESSED NOW.

AND IT IS NOT GOING TO BE SOLVED TOMORROW EVEN IF YOU APPROVE IT, BECAUSE WE HAVE TO GET THIS PERSON HIRED.

SHE HAS TO MOVE DOWN HERE. SO I AM GOING -- I AM GOING TO UNDERSCORE THE NEED TO DO IT NOW RATHER THAN LATER.

THANK YOU. >>JUDGE BECERRA: BEAUTIFUL.

THANK YOU, BOTH JUDGES FOR TAKING THE TEAM IN THIS -- THIS MORNING TO SHOW UP AND SPEAK. COMMISSIONERS, QUESTIONS,

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COMMENTS, CONCERNS? >>COMMISSIONER INGALSBE: MY ONLY QUESTION IS -- AND I AM SUPPORTIVE OF THE ACTION.

BUT MY CONCERN IS, WHAT DOES THIS -- IS THIS -- WHAT KIND OF CONSISTENCIES ARE WE, YOU KNOW, DOING HERE BY HIRING AT THE 73RD PERCENTILE AND THE OTHER TWO COURT REPORTERS THAT ARE CURRENTLY WORKING. IS THERE -- ARE WE GOING TO HAVE

ISSUES THERE? >> THAT IS A VERY GOOD QUESTION AND SOMETHING THAT WILL PROBABLY BE ADDRESSED.

HOPEFULLY BY THE INCREASES IN SALARIES THAT ARE PROPOSED FOR OUR OTHER COURT REPORTERS AS WELL.

BOTH OF THEM HAVE LESS EXPERIENCE THAN THIS PARTICULAR COURT REPORTER, SO THAT IS AN ARGUMENT THAT CAN BE MADE AS TO WHY THEY ARE NOT BEING RAISED TO THE SAME AMOUNT THAT SHE IS.

I DO BELIEVE WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO LOOK AT RAISING ALL THE COURT REPORTERS IF WE WANT TO MAINTAIN OUR COURTS IN -- IN A FULLY FUNCTIONAL FASHION. BECAUSE AS I SAID, A NATIONWIDE SHORTAGE. NOT JUST US THAT ARE HAVING TROUBLE FINDING COURT REPORTERS AND KEEPING THEM.

RETENTION IS IMPORTANT. EVERY TIME WE HAVE TO CHANGE A COURT REPORTER. THEY HAVE TO GET UP TO SPEED.

WE HAVE TO TRAIN THEM. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT DEFINITELY WILL BE A -- AN ISSUE I COULD SEE GOING FORWARD IF WE

DON'T RAISE THEIR SALARIES. >>JUDGE BECERRA: COMMISSIONER

COHEN. >>COMMISISONER COHEN: I HAVE NO QUESTIONS. I UNDERSTAND THE NEED AND I

SUPPORT IT. >>JUDGE BECERRA: COMMISSIONERS

ON THIS SIDE? >> THE ONLY QUESTION I HAVE IS THAT YOU KNOW WE PASSED A RESOLUTION TO NOT -- TO NOT -- NOT TO THIS JOB, BUT ANY ADDITIONAL PERCENT TILES UNTIL WE HAVE OUR SALARY SURVEY DONE. I HAVE A REAL CONCERN ON POSITIONS SUCH AS THIS. BECAUSE WE NEED TO NORMALIZE THE COURT REPORTERS IN Y'ALL'S OFFICES WITH THOSE, THE DISTRICT COURT LEVEL. I THINK THEY SHOULD ALL BE TREATED EQUALLY AND I DON'T THINK THAT HAS BEEN DONE IN THE PAST TO THE DETRIMENTS OF THE COUNTY COURTS OF LAW.

SO MY CONCERN IS AS WE DO THESE PIECEMEAL ONE AT A TIME, WE WILL CONTINUE TO HAVE THIS PROBLEM. I MEAN, IF WE HAVE DONE THOSE -- IF WE HAVE DONE A REAL REVIEW OF THOSE JOB PRESCRIPTIONS AND WHAT THOSE CONCURRENT COUNTIES WILL LOOK LIKE, I KNOW WE HAVE LOST COURT REPORTERS TO BEXAR COUNTY. I KNOW WHAT THEY GOT PAID WHEN THEY WENT THERE. WHAT WE ARE OFFERING AND WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT IS MORE THAN THAT.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE HAPPY MEDIUM IS.

I WILL SUPPORT THIS TODAY. I THINK NEEDED.

BUT WE HAVE TO DO A BETTER JOB OF NORMALIZING ACROSS THE COURTS. NOT JUST WITH Y'ALL BUT THE

DISTRICT COURTS AS WELL. >>JUDGE BECERRA: I WILL ADD, COMMISSIONER, OF COURSE, ELECTED OFFICIALS AND DEPARTMENT HEADS ARE REGULARLY BENDING MY EAR ON THIS FRONT AS YOURS AS WELL.

AND THAT IS IN GREAT PART BECAUSE THERE IS A -- THERE IS A MASSIVE MANY MONTHS DELAY ON AN ASSESSMENT -- THIS IS JUST BACKGROUND FOR THE VIEWING PUBLIC.

MASSIVE MANY MONTHS DELAY OF AN ASSESSMENT WE ORDERED BECAUSE WE KNEW WE WERE SO BEHIND ALREADY. AND SO BEHIND ON BEHIND ON BEHIND IS WHAT IS CAUSING THIS BAND-AIDING.

I AGREE WITH YOU. BAND-AIDING OF DIFFERENT ELECTED OFFICIALS AND DEPARTMENT HEADS. I AM JUST GOING TO SAY, WE MUST MAKE SURE THAT OUR NEWLY ELECTED OFFICIALS HAVE ALL THE SUPPORT THEY NEED TO DO THE JOB THAT IS REQUIRED.

AND IF THEY STEP INTO A GOVERNMENT THAT IS BEHIND, THAT CAN BE USED AGAINST THEM. SO, JUDGE, WERE YOU GOING TO ADD

ANYTHING ELSE? >> I AM GOING TO AGREE WITH COMMISSIONER SMITH. DOING A BAND-AID -- AND JUDGE BECERRA, IT IS NOT THE WAY WE WANT TO DO IT.

YOU HAVE THREE COUNTY COURT OF LAW JUDGES AND TWO OF US HAVE BEEN ON THE JOB FOR ONE MONTH, WE ARE WORKING VERY WELL TOGETHER. IT IS WONDERFUL TO SAY THE LEAST. BUT BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE A SALARY STUDY TO EXAMINE. NO FAR IN TESTIFY.

NO EXPLANATION. NO NOTHING.

WITHER DOING IT OURSELVES INTERNALLY.

WE WILL DO OUR OWN -- WE WILL DO OUR OWN WHEN WE HAVE TIME.

WE HAVE A TIME PROBLEM BECAUSE --

>>JUDGE BECERRA: YOU ARE STARTING BEHIND.

>> WE ARE STARTING BEHIND AND TRYING TO CATCH UP.

OUR JO BE IS TO HEAR CASES. AND SECOND TARLY TO DO ADMINISTRATIVE STUFF. SO WE MEET WITH THREE JUDGES AND OUR COURT ADMINISTRATOR AND HIRING SOMEONE IN A VACANCY THAT SERVES MY COURT THROUGH ADMINISTRATIVE PRECINCTS.

SHE WILL BE ABLE TO COME OVER SOON.

ALREADY A COUNTY EMPLOYEE. BUT DIFFICULT WHEN WE DON'T HAVE, AS YOU ARE SAYING JUDGE, THE RESOURCES TO GET THINGS GOING AND STARTING BEHIND. SO I AM VERY HAPPY TO HEAR THE

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COMMENTS FROM THE COMMISSIONERS AND THE JUDGE, BUT JUST WANT TO YOU KNOW THAT WE ARE WORKING TO CONTINUE OURSELVES.

WE ARE NOT WAITING ON ANYTHING BECAUSE OUR JOB IS TO HEAR CASES

TO GET JUSTICE DONE. >>JUDGE BECERRA: BEAUTIFULLY SAID. ONE VISUAL I CAN RELATE TO MOST EASILY IS, YOU ARE HAVING TO BUILD THE PLANE WHILE FLYING IT.

SO FOR THAT, ALL YOU NEWLY ELECTED OFFICIALS AND THOSE WHO HAVE BEEN REELECTED, WHATEVER PARTY YOU BELONG TO, I THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE AND JUST KNOW THIS COURT IS PUSHING AND PRODDING AND MAKING THINGS UNCOMFORTABLE TO ACCELERATE THIS VERY SOLUTION. SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE

AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. >> JUDGE, I WILL ASK -- HAVE Y'ALL HAD A CHANCE TO SIT DOWN WITH THE DISTRICT COURT JUDGES TO TALK OF THOSE POSITIONS, THOSE JUSTICE COURT POSITIONS AND COURT REPORTERS. THE SAME POSITION THAT Y'ALL HAVE THAT THEY HAVE TO POSSIBLY LOOK AT NORMALIZING THOSE? DOES THAT MAKE SENSE WHAT I AM ASKING?

>> WELL, THEY ARE IN A VERY DIFFERENT POSITION THAN WE ARE WITH REGARD TO SALARIES FOR THEIR COURT REPORTERS.

BY STATE STATUTES, THEY GET TO SET THEIR SALARIES, WE DO NOT.

WE CAN CERTAINLY TALK TO THEM WHAT THEY ARE PAYING THEIR COURT REPORTER IT IS THAT WILL BE HELPFUL TO THE COMMISSION.

>> I THINK IT WOULD. THE FACT IS IF THAT IS WHAT THE STANDARD -- AS FAR AS I AM CONCERNED, IS THAT WHAT THE STATE MANDATES WE PAY THE COURT REPORTERS AND THAT IS THE SET RATE, I WILL BE FINE DOING THAT ACROSS THE BOARD.

BECAUSE IF I HAD TO BET, I WOULD BET THAT THE RATES THEY ARE PAYING IS HIGHER THAN WHAT Y'ALL ARE PAYING.

IF WE CAN NORMALIZE TO WHATEVER THE STATE STANDARD IS, I WOULD BE VERY SUPPORTIVE OF THAT AND HELPFUL FOR YOU AND Y'ALL'S

COURT. >> OUR INTENTION AS PART OF THE SALARY STUDY FOR ALL THE POSITIONS TO SEE WHAT HAPPENS IN THE OTHER COURTS IN THE AREA AS THEY GO TO OTHER COURTS IN THE AREA BECAUSE THEY CAN MAKE MORE MO

MONEY. >>COMMISSIONER SMITH: YOU SIT DOWN WITH THE JUDGE AND COLLEAGUES, ARE THOSE JUSTICE COURT POSITIONS. WE HAVE JUSTICE POSITIONS IN THE EACH OF OUR CONSTABLE OFFICES AND JP OFFICES, AND EACH ONE OF THEM DOES A DIFFERENT THING. RIGHT NOW SOMEWHAT NORMALIZED ACROSS THE BOARD AND JOB DESCRIPTIONS ARE COMPLETELY DIFFERENT. IF WE CAN -- THE TWO AREAS THAT I SEE WE CAN REALLY TRULY NORMALIZE THOSE ARE IN THE COURTS BECAUSE YOUR JUSTICE CLERK DOES PRETTY CLOSE TO THE EXACT SAME THING THAT THE DISTRICT COURT JUSTICE CLERK DOES. THE CONSTABLE SHOULD BE ABLE TO NORMALIZE THEIRS. THE JP SHOULD BE ABLE TO NORMALIZE THERE. COMPARING A JUSTICE CLERK IN A CONSTABLE'S OFFICE TO YOUR OFFICE AND THE CLERK'S OFFICE I DON'T THINK IS A FAIR ASSUMPTION.

>>JUDGE BECERRA: JUST TO WRAP THIS UP SO WE CAN CALL THE VOTE.

YOUR JUDGE JOB IS TO BE JUDGE AND THAT IS AN HR ISSUE.

THANK YOU FOR LEANING INTO SPACES THAT YOU HAVE.

DR. CARDENAS, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

>>COMMISSIONER SHELL: YES. >>COMMISSIONER SMITH: YES.

>>COMMISISONER COHEN: YES. >>COMMISSIONER INGALSBE: YES.

>>JUDGE BECERRA: YES. THANK YOU.

[K. 2. Discussion and possible action to authorize a $10,000.00 annual salary increase for one Attorney V position, slot 0784-009 effective February 1st that has been serving as an Acting Court Chief since 1/1/2023, now to be confirmed in that position as official Court Chief for the Hays County Criminal District Attorney's Office. S MIT H /H IGGIN S]

AND NEXT IF YOU WILL PLEASE OPEN NEW K-2.

>>DR. CARDENAS: K-2, DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO AUTHORIZE A $10,000 ANNUAL SALARY INCREASE FOR ONE ATTORNEY V POSITION SLOT 0784-009 EFFECTIVE FEBRUARY 1 THAT HAS BEEN SERVING AS AN ACTING COURT CHIEF SINCE JANUARY 1, 2023 NOW TO BE CONFIRMED IN THAT POSITION AS OFFICIAL COURT CHIEF FOR THE HAYS COUNTY CRIMINAL DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.

>> SO MOVED. >> SECOND.

>>JUDGE BECERRA: A MOTION AND APPEAR SECOND.

>> JUDGE, THIS IS AN ITEM I BROUGHT FORTH JUST AS I MENTIONED BEFORE. WE PASSED A RESOLUTION AND YOU REMEMBER WE MADE THE ADJUSTMENTS TO THIS SPECIFIC SALARY JUST PRIOR TO US ON A TEMPORARY BASIS, JUST PRIOR TO US PASSING THAT RESOLUTION NOT TO DO ANY MORE OF THOSE INDIVIDUAL CHANGES. AND DISTRICT ATTORNEY HIGGINS SPOKE TO ME ABOUT IT. AND I SAT DOWN AND LOOKED AT IT AND THIS NORMALIZES THAT POSITION WITH THE OTHER POSITION

IN THE OFFICE. >> THAT'S CORRECT.

GOOD MORNING, JUDGE, COMMISSIONERS.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. I BEG YOUR PARDON?

>>JUDGE BECERRA: NAME AND TITLE FOR THE VIEWING PUBLIC.

>> KELLY HIGGINS, THE ATTORNEY FOR HAYS COUNTY, TEXAS.

WE, LIKE THE COURTS, ARE WORKING TO COMPLETE OUR TRANSITION.

AN IMPORTANT PART OF THAT WAS THE ASSIGNMENT OF A WHOLE NEW SET OF COURT CHIEFS. COURT CHIEF IS A SUPERVISING

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ATTORNEY WHO MANAGES TWO OTHER ATTORNEYS WITHIN A COURT, WITHIN A DISTRICT COURT. THIS PARTICULAR POSITION, WHEN WE CAME IN, YOU MAY RECALL, JANUARY 3, I CAME IN AS COMMISSIONER SMITH JUST ASKED AND ASKED $10,000 RAISES FOR FOUR OF THOSE PEOPLE ALREADY CONFIRMED IN THAT POSITION.

I HAD THIS POSITION AS A TEMPORARY ACTING COURT CHIEF BASICALLY TO SEE WHETHER THIS LAWYER WAS GOING TO BE ABLE TO DO THE WORK. AND OVER THE COURSE OF THIS MONTH, SHE HAS DEMONSTRATED VERY SO I AM COMING NOW TO PUNCTUATE THAT INITIAL REQUEST WITH THIS FINAL REQUEST IN TERMS OF INDIVIDUALIZED SALARY INCREASES. OTHERWISE, WE ARE CONTENT TO WAIT AND SEE WHAT THE SALARY SURVEY HOLDS.

>>COMMISSIONER SMITH: I WANT TOP COMPLIMENT THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY SPECIFICALLY BECAUSE YOU REMEMBER WHEN THIS FIRST CAME US TO, I KNOW I HAD QUESTIONS AS FAR AS HAVE YOU TALKED TO HR, TALKED TO THE BUDGET OFFICE, HAVE IS YOU GOTTEN THE BACKGROUND MATERIAL. BEING NEW TO THE PROCESS, THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY DIDN'T KNOW THAT PROCESS.

AND I ASKED HIM TO BE THOROUGH IF HE BROUGHT ANYTHING ELSE BACK. AND HE DID ALL THOSE THINGS ON THIS ONE. I APPRECIATE THAT.

AND I APPRECIATE YOU DOING THE BACKGROUND.

AND I AM VERY SUPPORTIVE OF THIS OR I WOULDN'T HAVE PUT IT ON THE

AGENDA. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>>JUDGE BECERRA: GOOD. DR. CARDENAS, PLEASE CALL THE

ROLL. >>COMMISSIONER INGALSBE: YES.

>>COMMISSIONER SHELL: YES. >>COMMISISONER COHEN: YES.

>>COMMISSIONER SMITH: YES. >>JUDGE BECERRA: YES.

YOU WILL CONTINUE TO RECEIVE AS ELECTED OFFICIALS UNTIL WE GET

IT RIGHT. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH, YOUR

HONOR. >>JUDGE BECERRA: PLEASE O

OPEN K-13. >>DR. CARDENAS: DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO INCREASE BY 10% THE PAY OF ALL EMPLOYEES IN HAYS COUNTY WHOSE SALARY IS UNDER $100,000 WHO ARE NOT BOUND BY THE COLLECTIVE BARGAINING AGREEMENT IN FEBRUARY 1, 2023.

>>JUDGE BECERRA: BEFORE WE TECHNICALLY OPEN THIS ONE, I HAVE NOTES HERE. I THINK I DON'T WANT TO OPEN THAT ONE NEXT. I THINK I WANT TO WAIT ON OPENING THAT ONE. MY NOTES AND MY DELAY.

[Items G1, G3, & G4]

WHY DON'T WE START OPENING THE GS REALLY QUICK.

>>DR. CARDENAS: G-1 APPROVE PAYMENTS OF COURT INVOICES.

G-2, APPROVE PAYMENT OF JUROR I DON'T REMEMBER CHECKS.

G-3, APPROVE PAEMENT OF UNITED HEALTHCARE CLAIMS. NUMBER G-4, APPROVE THE PAYMENTS OF JANUARY 31, 2023, IN THE AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $4,323,074.31 EFFECTIVE JANUARY 31, TWEZ FOR WAGE, WITHHOLDINGS, DEDUCTION.

>> I BELIEVE WE NEED TO PULL G-2.

>>JUDGE BECERRA: WE ARE PUL PULLING G-2 FROM THE LEST.

A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR 1-343 AND 4.

>>COMMISSIONER SHELL: YES. >>COMMISSIONER SMITH: YES.

[Items G5 - G9]

>>COMMISSIONER INGALSBE: YES. >>COMMISISONER COHEN: YES.

>>JUDGE BECERRA: YES. >>JUDGE BECERRA: PLEASE OPEN

5-9. >>DR. CARDENAS: 5, APPROVE COMMISSIONERS COURT MINUTES OF JANUARY 3, 2023.

6, APPROVE THE AND CONFIRM THE APPOINTMENT OF GARY YELL D.

CUNNION AS A REGULAR IF YOU WILL-TIME DEPUTY CONSTABLE IN THE HAYS COUNTY CONSTABLE. 7, AUTHORIZE THE COUNTY JUDGE TO EXECUTE A RENTAL AGREEMENT BETWEEN HAYS COUNTY LOCAL HEALTH DEPARTMENT AND DRIPPING SPRINGS RANCH PARK IN THE AMOUNT OF $1,006.25 FOR THE SUMMER HEALTH FAIR.

8, AUTHORIZE THE HAYS COUNTY CONSTABLE PRECINCT 4 OFFICE TO ACCEPT A DONATION OF $1646.50 FROM THE KNIGHTS OF COLUMBUS COUNCIL, 11695 AND AMEND THE BUDGET ACCORDINGLY.

9, AUTHORIZE THE COUNTY JUDGE TO EXECUTE AN INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT FOR USE OF JAIL FACILITY BETWEEN ATASCOSA COUNTY AND HAYS COUNTY FOR THE CARE AND CUSTODIES OF HAYS COUNTY

INMATES. >> JUDGE, I WANT TO SAY --

>>JUDGE BECERRA: HOLD ON A SECOND.

>> MOTION. >> SECOND.

>> I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO OUR KNIGHTS OF COLUMBUS IN DRIPPING SPRINGS FOR THE DONATION TO THE -- TO THE HAYS

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COUNTY CONSTABLE PRECINCT 4 AND LOOK FORWARD TO HOSTING THE HAYS COUNTY LOCAL HEALTH DEPARTMENT EVENT, SUMMER HEALTH FAIR IN

DRIPPING SPRINGS. >>JUDGE BECERRA: WELL SAID, THANK YOU. ONE INDIVIDUAL SIGNED UP TO SPEAK. NO, TWO INDIVIDUALS SIGNED UP TO SPEAK IN THAT BLOCK. MR. DAN LYON WILL KICK US OFF.

>>U THAT, JUDGE BECERRA. I AM SPEAKING ON G-9, AUTHORIZE THE COUNTY JUDGE FOR INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT FOR USE OF JAIL FACILITIES BETWEEN ATASCOCIA FOR THE CARE, CUSTODY OF INMATES EFFECTIVE FEBRUARY 21, 2023. INGA INGALSBE-CUTLER. I WAS READING THROUGH THIS YESTERDAY. I DON'T HAVE THE CONTRACT IN FRONT OF ME, BUT I PULLED OUT EXCERPTS.

SECTION 9, LINE 5, INSTEAD OF PARTY, YOU HAVE PATTY.

SECTION 17, LINE 1, PATTY AGAIN. SECTION 19, LINE 3, PATTY ONCE MORE. SECTION 19, LINE 5, YOU GOT PATTIES. SECTION 27, LINE 1, PATTIES.

28, LINE 1, PATHY. NOW IF HAD HAPPENED ONCE, ALL RIGHT. ANYBODY CAN MAKE A MISTAKE.

ANYBODY CAN READ OVER SOMETHING AND NOT RECOGNIZE IT.

BUT WHEN IT HAPPENS THIS OFTEN, IT IS OBVIOUS TO ME, COMMISSIONER INGALSBE DID NOT READ THIS.

SHERIFF GARY CUTLER DID NOT READ THIS.

Y'ALL DID NOT READ THIS YET. YOU ARE GOING TO VOTE ON THIS.

WHAT IS WRONG WITH THIS PICTURE? ALL I CAN SAY IS THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS HERE THAT, YOU KNOW -- I WANT TO STICK WITH THE SUBJECT AND THIS IS PART OF THE SUBJECT. THIS IS JUST ILLUSTRATIVE OF HOW SLIPSHOT YOU CONDUCT YOUR BUSINESS.

AND WE CAN'T DO THIS ANYMORE. YOU CAN'T BE VOTING ON THINGS THAT YOU HAVEN'T READ. IT REMINDS ME OF -- I DON'T WANT TO GET OFF THE SUBJECT, BUT SOME FAMOUS PERSON SAID LET'S VOTE ON THIS SO WE CAN READ IT. NOW THAT IS NOT THE WAY IT WORKS. NEEDLESS TO SAY, I AM EXTREMELY UPSET ABOUT THIS. AN UNPAID CITIZEN GOES DOWN AND FINDS THIS STUFF JUST THROUGH A CURSORY READING OF IT.

AND Y'ALL DON'T. THAT IS WRONG.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >>JUDGE BECERRA: THANK YOU, SIR.

THE SECOND PERSON SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON THIS AGENDA ITEM IS MR.

RODRIGO AMAYA. >> GOOD JOB THERE, DAN LYONS.

JUDGE, K0UR9, I DIDN'T SEE THE PATTIES.

I DIDN'T READ IT. I DIDN'T GET THAT FAR.

THIS IS REMINDS ME WHAT YOU CALL PANDORA'S BOX.

THE LAST TIME HE WERE HERE OF THIS, THIS IS HOW IT IS APPLIED.

THE SHACK -- THAT COMMISSIONER SHELL BROUGHT UP AND HE SAID THAT HE ENTERED IT IN A CERTAIN WAY BUT NOT HOW HE MET IT.

ACCORDING TO THIS RIGHT HERE, YOUR AGENDA ITEM SAYS TO EXECUTE A INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT FOR USE OF JAIL; HOWEVER, IF YOU READ IT, IT SAYS IN THE SUMMARY, THIS AGREEMENT IS REALLY AN AMENDMENT OF FALSIFYING AND TAMPERING WITH GOVERNMENT DOCUMENTS AND LEGAL SHOULD ADDRESS THAT. THAT IS HIS RESPONSIBILITY.

THIS IS NOT THE WAY Y'ALL HAVE PRESENT IT TO US BECAUSE IT SAYS IN THE SUMMARY, THIS IS NOT WHAT IT IS ON THE SURFACE.

WHICH ONE IS IT? WHY THE DECEPTION? THIS IS WHAT YOU ALL HAVE NORMALIZED AS A GOVERNING BODY.

Y'ALL HAVE ALLOW IT AND ALL THESE OTHER DIRECTORS ARE FOLLOWING THE SAME PATTERN. YOU CAN'T BE DOING THAT, GENTLEMEN. A VIOLATION AND A FELONY TO SUBMIT THESE KIND OF THINGS WITH THE DOCUMENT.

ALL THE OTHER STATUTES. AS I SAID THIS LEGAL INDIVIDUAL SHOULD BE ABLE TO GUIDE YOU BET EVERY.

SO, AGAIN, WHY ARE YOU CONTINUING TO SIGN CONTRACTS WITH OTHER AGENCIES? YOU NKNOW REAL OBVIOUS CONCERNS WE HAVE A SEASONED DEPUTY RUNNING AROUND PRESIDENT OF THE LION'S CLUB. RUNNING OUT WITH NOT A CARE IN THE WORLD AND WE ARE HERE WITH OVERCROWDED JAILS.

AND SHERIFF CUTLER TAKING PICTURES OF HIM AND THAT'S ALL HE NEED. WE ARE HERE SIGNING CONTRACTS

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EVERYWHERE ELSE, THEY ARE HERE VOLUNTEERING WITH A NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION WITHOUT A CARE IN THE WORLD.

GUESS WHAT? BECAUSE NO CRISIS.

THEY ARE THE CRISIS. GET RID OF ALL THOSE GUYS.

THANK YOU,. >>JUDGE BECERRA: COMMISSIONER

INGALSBE. >>COMMISSIONER INGALSBE: I WILL TURN TO MARK KENNEDY IN THIS. I KNOW WE DO WHEN WE MEET IN COMMISSIONERS COURT, THAT ATASC OSO THAT ATASCOTIA COUNTY IS THE WAY.

CAN YOU EXPLAIN WHY IT IS WRITTEN THE WAY IT IS?

>> A DRAFT JOCK OUT FROM ATACOSA AND WE DID NOT CATCH THAT.

APOLOGIZE FOR THAT. A AMENDED STATEMENT.

YOU ARE VOTING ON A NEW ONE. WE WILL NOT USE THE OLD ONE.

WE SOMETIMES AMEND AND RESTATE AN AGREEMENT AND SOMETIMES FROM ONES THAT YOU SEE IN COURT FROM TIME TO TIME.

I AM GOING TO ADDRESS THE RIDICULOUSNESS THIS IS SOMEHOW A PENAL CODE VIOLATION. I AM NOT EVEN GOING TO GO THERE.

IN AMENDS THE CONTRACT FROM $50 PER DIEM TO $65 PER DIEM AND CHANGES SOME OF THE MEDICAL BILLING PROCEDURES.

THAT'S IT. >>COMMISSIONER INGALSBE: THAT IS STATED IN THE SUMMARY THAT I ALSO HAD UNDER LINED TO MENTION,

JUDGE. >>JUDGE BECERRA: SOME FOLKS DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO THAT MEDICAL WILLING EDIT ONLINE.

MR. KENNEDY, CAN YOU TELL THE VIEWING PUBLIC WHAT THE UPDATE

IS ON THE MEDICAL BILLING. >> ASSISTANT GENERAL COUNSEL.

I WILL ANSWER THAT QUESTION BECAUSE MY PROJECT.

>>JUDGE BECERRA: YOUR PATTY BUSINESS.

>> IF YOU WILL BLAME FOR THE SPELLING ERROR THAT DIDN'T GET CAUGHT IN ALL CAPS. THAT WAS ME.

THE MEDICAL PART THAT GOT CHANGED IN THIS IS -- IS SOME COUNTIES WILL ALLOW US TO BE DIRECTLY BILLED FROM A HOSPITAL IF OUR INMATE HAS TO BE TAKEN FROM THE HOSPITAL IF THEY ARE OUT OF COUNTY. THAT IS PREFERABLE TO US BECAUSE WE CAN WORK WITH THE HOSPITAL ON ANY BILLING ERAS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. THIS MEDICAL ALLOWS HAYS COUNTY TO BE THE DIRECT BILLING AGENCIES INSTEAD OF ATACOSA COUNTY. WE CAN LOOK AT THE BILLING ERRORS WITHOUT IT GOING T TO ATACOSA FIRST AND GIVES US A HEADS UP TO ACT FASTER IN THE BILLING.

THE ONLY OTHER CHANGE OTHER THAN THE RATE THAT MR. KENNEDY MENT MENTIONED.

>>JUDGE BECERRA: $50 TO $65 FOR HOLDING OUR NEIGHBORS AND TAKE US FROM BILLING THROUGH ATACOSA COUNTY DIRECTLY TO THE HOSPITAL.

AND WE HAVE A HOSPITAL -- I MEAN A CONTRACT FOR MEDICAL CARE IN OUR COUNTY. THIS MAY STREAMLINE IT FOR OUR

SAKE, IS THAT THE INTENT? >> DEFINITELY FOR OUR BENEFIT TO STREAMLINE IT. IF WE CATCH ANY ERRORS EASIER TO CATCH THEM SOONER RATHER THAN LATER TO WORK WITH THAT

FACILITY. >>JUDGE BECERRA: COMMISSIONER

INGALSBE. >>COMMISSIONER INGALSBE: DO YOU HAVE THE CORRECTED CONTRACT WITH THE CORRECT SPELLING.

>> I CAN GO DO THAT RIGHT NOW. >>COMMISSIONER INGALSBE: BEFORE

WE SIGN IT, JUDGE. >>JUDGE BECERRA: I AM SURE THE PATTY ONE IS IN THE PACKET AND I WILL MAKE SURE THAT I DON'T SIGN IT. COMMISSIONER COHEN, ANY

QUESTIONS, COMMENTS OR CONCERNS? >>COMMISISONER COHEN: NO.

NO QUESTION. >>JUDGE BECERRA: COMMISSIONER

SHELL? >>COMMISSIONER SHELL: I JUST -- HOW MANY -- I AM NOT SURE HOW MANY WE HAVE DONE OF THESE SINCE -- SINCE WE HAVE BEEN ON THE COURT, JUDGE.

A COUPLE DOZENS OF THEM, UPDATES AND THOSE KIND OF THINGS.

AND THE ONE THING THAT I APPRECIATE IS ACTUALLY THE ABILITY FOR US TO TALK ABOUT THESE INDIVIDUAL CONTRACTS.

BUT AT A CERTAIN POINT, I APPRECIATE THAT -- THAT THERE MAY BE SOME FRUSTRATIONS OUT THERE BUT WE GOT WAY OFF OF THE POSTED AGENDA ITEM ON THIS. THE FACT IS I AM PROUD OF OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT MEMBERS WHO ARE MEMBERS OF OUR COMMUNITY AND THE FACT THEY SERVE ON NONPROFIT BOARDS AND SERVE OUTSIDE OF THE JOB ON THEIR FREE TIME MAKES THEM A MEMBER OF THE COMMUNITY.

WHENEVER WE HAVE KIDS COME UP AND THEY TELL US THAT THEIR DEPUTIES OR COACHES OR THEY SAW THEM IN A LION'S CLUB EVENT, THAT IS SOMETHING THAT IS VERY SPECIAL AND MAKES THEM MEMBERS OF OUR COMMUNITY. AND LET'S STICK TO -- TO THE FACTS AND WHATEVER IS POSTED AND NOT INSULT PEOPLE PERSONALLY.

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I WOULD APPRECIATE THAT. >>JUDGE BECERRA: COMMISSIONER, AS A CHAIR OF THIS COURT. WE ARE NOT WAY OFF BECAUSE AN INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT CONVERSATION WE ARE HAVING.

>>COMMISSIONER SMITH: THAT PORTION OF IT.

>>JUDGE BECERRA: I THINK WE ARE ON POINT WITH OUR DISCUSSION.

>>COMMISSIONER SMITH: THE INSULTING OF OUR OFFICE FOR SERVE THE COMMUNITY AND NONPROFITS IN THE COMMUNITY IS

WAY OFF BASE HERE. >>JUDGE BECERRA: GOTCHA, ON THE CITIZENS COMMENT PORTION. THANK YOU.

NO OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS OR CONCERNS IN PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. NOW I KNOW IT SOUNDS SILLY, MR. KENNEDY. BUT WITH AMENDMENTS AND EDITS.

THANK YOU. PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

>>COMMISISONER COHEN: YES. >>COMMISSIONER SHELL: YES.

>>COMMISSIONER INGALSBE: YES. >>COMMISSIONER SMITH: YES.

>>JUDGE BECERRA: YES. AND ALSO NOW THAT WE HAVE APPROVED IT, CONSTABLE TORREZ, WOULD YOU LIKE TO APPROACH THE PODIUM? WE DO LOOPS AROUND HERE

SOMETIMES, BUT WE GET TO YOU. >> FOR A MINUTE I THOUGHT YOU FORGOT ABOUT ME. MICHAEL TORREZ, CONSTABLE PRECINCT 2. I FIRST WANT TO THANK YOU, EACH OF YOU, FOR WHAT YOU DO FOR OUR COMMUNITY ESPECIALLY CONSIDERING THE GROWTH WE HAVE EXPERIENCED HERE IN HAYS COUNTY.

I'M HERE ASKING THE COURT TO APPROVE THE APPOINTMENT OF DEPUTY CONSTABLE IN OUR OFFICE. NOT A REQUEST FOR A NEW POSITION. THIS POSITION HAS ALREADY BEEN APPROVED BY COMMISSIONERS COURT AND WAS VACANT DUE TO THE RETIREMENT OF ONE OF MY DEPUTIES.

THIS APPROVAL WAS BASED OF LOCAL GOVERNMENT 86.011 THAT REQUIRES CONSTABLES TO HAVE THEIR DEPUTIES APPOINTMENTS APPROVED BY COMMISSIONERS COURT. I ASKED THE COURT TO APPROVE GABRIEL CUNNION. HE HAS SERVED AS A RESERVE DEPUTY CONSTABLE IN MY OFFICE FOR THE PAST ONE YEAR, NINE MONTHS. WE ARE PROMOTING HIM FROM RESERVE TO IF YOU WILL-TIME DEPUTY STATUS.

DEPUTY CULLION SERVE IN CALDWELL, TRAVIS AND HAYES.

AS A HAYS COUNTY RESIDENT I LOOK FORWARD TO SERVING HIS COMMUNITY. PROBABLY BE HERE IN A COUPLE OF WEEKS OR A MONTHS AND ANOTHER ONE WITH REGARD TO COMAL COUNTY.

>>JUDGE BECERRA: COMAL COUNTY TOOK ONE OF YOUR DEPUTIES? WHAT IN THE WORLD IS COMING TO. DON'T THEY KNOW HAYS IS NUMBER

ONE? >> I WILL WELCOME DEP

DEPUTY CUNNION. >>JUDGE BECERRA: WELCOME.

AND THANK YOU BEING PART OF THE TEAM.

>> WILL BE SWORN IN TOMORROW DEPENDING ON THE WEATHER.

>>JUDGE BECERRA: BEAUTIFUL. WELL-DONE AND THANK YOU.

[Items G10 - G17]

WILL YOU MRS. OPEN 10 THROUGH 17.

>> 10, APPROVE THE PURCHASE AMOUNT OF $1527.50 FOR BATTERIES AND SEALS FOR ROUTINE MAINTENANCE ON ELECTION EQUIPMENT, AUTHORIZE A DISCRETIONARY EXEMPTION YOU ARE SUPERINTENDENT TO TEXAS LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE CHAPTER 262.024.

11, AUTHORIZE THE EXECUTION OF A RESOLUTION OF A RESOLUTION OF THE SUBMISSION OF THE GRANT APPLICATION IN THE OFFICE OF THE GOVERNOR SPECIALTY COURTS FOR HAYS COUNTY MENTAL HEALTH COURT IN THE AMOUNT OF $259,949.62. 12, AUTHORIZE THE OFFICE OF EMERGENCY SERVICES COMMUNITY EMERGENCY RESPONSE TEAM TO ACCEPT A DONATION FROM THE SAN MARCOS LIONS CLUB IN THE AMOUNT OF $5400 AND AMEND THE BUDGET ACCORDINGLY.

13, APPROVE UTILITY PERMITS. 14, AUTHORIZE THE EXECUTION OF A RESOLUTION IN THE SUBMISSION OF A GRANT APPLICATION TO THE OFFICE OF THE GOVERNOR, HOMELAND GRANT PROGRAM IN THE AMOUNT OF $33,975.63. 15, AUTHORIZE EXECUTION OF THE RESOLUTION AND SUBMISSION OF A GRANT APPLICATION TO THE OFFICE OF GOVERNOR AND HOMELAND SECURITY GRANT PROGRAM IN THE AMOUNT OF $494,100. 16, AUTHORIZE THE EXECUTION OF A RESOLUTION AND THE SUBMISSION OF A GRANT APPLICATION TO THE OFFICE OF THE GOVERNOR CRIMINAL JUSTICE DIVISION GRANT PROGRAM FOR BODY WARN CAMERAS PROJECT FOR THE HAYS COUNTY FIRE MARSHAL'S OFFICE IN THE AMOUNT OF $11,753.10 AND 17, AUTHORIZE THE EXECUTION OF A RESOLUTION AND THE SUBMISSION OF A GRANT APPLICATION TO THE OFFICE OF THE GOVERNOR, VICTIM ASSISTANCE, FIRST RESPONDER MENTAL HEALTH GRANT PROGRAM IN THE AMOUNT OF

$10,81.25. >> SO MOVED.

>> SECOND. >>JUDGE BECERRA: THANK YOU.

ONE INDIVIDUAL SIGNED UP TO SPEAK FOR G-12.

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MR. RODRIGO AMAYA. >> JUDGE AND COURT, ON THIS AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 12, I WANTED TO EXPRESS MY CONCERNS ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THIS TYPE OF ACT ANY OF THE MY EXPERIENCE.

CLEARLY PROMOTES FAVORITISM. AND, YOU KNOW, I HAVE A BIG PROBLEM WITH IT. THE REASON I SAY THIS BECAUSE THIS HAPPENS AT A CITY LEVEL AND THE MARSHALS AND WHAT THEY ARE UP TO. PERSONAL EXPERIENCE ON MORE THAN ONE OCCASIONS SINCE 1986. SOMETIMES WHEN CITIZENS CALL FOR ASSISTANCE FROM THE LAW ENFORCEMENT PERSONNEL, THEY HAVE A TENDENCY TO CLEARLY SHOW A BIAS BECAUSE OF THOSE THAT ARE SOMEHOW SUPPLEMENTED THROUGH OPERATION.

I KNOW IN THE FOUR DIFFERENT AGENCIES THAT I WORKED UNDER, THIS WAS FROWNED UPON. THIS FALLS UNDER THE GRATUITIES AND ABUSE OF OFFICE AND SOME OF THESE OTHER LEGAL THINGS THAT, YOU KNOW, I ENJOY ENTERTAINING, CON TARRY TO OTHER LEGAL MINDS.

SO THESE ARE ETHICAL CONCERNS FROM MY EXPERIENCE OF ALMOST 20 YEARS. AND THIS -- YOU KNOW, THAT THE FORMER DEPUTIES, THE FORMER DOWNTOWN, CLEARLY IS OF GREAT CONCERN OF MINE AS A CONFLICT OF INTEREST.

NOW ON THIS, SOMEONE CAN SIT UP HERE AND QUALIFIED.

YOU KNOW, THAT IS SOMEONE WITH INCREDIBLE LEGAL EXPERIENCE, YOU KNOW. TO STAND IN OPPOSITION AND I HOPE YOU DO TOO. THANK YOU.

>>JUDGE BECERRA: THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER INGALSBE.

ANY COMMENTS ON THOSE ITEMS? >>COMMISSIONER INGALSBE: NO, AND JUDGE, I AM THANKFUL THAT THE LIONS CLUB IS WILLING TO GIVE THESE FUNDS TO PURCHASE T THE AEDS.

THE AUTOMATIC EXTERNAL DEFIBRILLATORS.

IT IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT TO HAVE THEM AROUND THE COUNTY IN THE EVENT THAT SOMEONE NEEDS ONE.

I THINK THEY WILL BE USED FOR EVERY CITIZEN THAT IS IN NEED.

JUDGE COMMISSIONER COHEN. >>COMMISISONER COHEN: I AGREE WITH COMMISSIONER INGALSBE THAT THOSE RESOURCES ARE DEFINITELY NEEDED AND I APPRECIATE THE DONATION.

>>JUDGE BECERRA: COMMISSIONER SHELL.

>>COMMISSIONER SHELL: I REALLY APPRECIATE THE LION'S CLUB AND THIS DONATION. I WOULD HOPE IF I AM HAVING A HEART ATTACK THAT THE VOLUNTEERS USED ONE OF THESE ON ME.

I DON'T THINK THAT WOULD BE FAVORITISM BUT THEY DO WHAT WE ARE ASKING THEM TO DO AS VOLUNTEERS, TO PROTECT THE

PUBLIC. >>JUDGE BECERRA: COMMISSIONER

SMITH. >>COMMISSIONER SMITH: WITH THAT SPECIFIC ITEM I WANT TO AGREE WITH MY COLLEAGUES.

THE LION'S CLUB EFFECTS EVERY COMMUNITY.

HERE IN HAYS COUNTY, AND THEIR SOLE PURPOSE IS DOE NEATING BACK TO OUR COMMUNITY. AND I KNOW AS A MEMBER OF THE LION'S CLUB IN DRIPPING SPRINGS, THAT WE DONATE TO PROBABLY 20 TO 30 LOCAL CHARITIES. WE ARE SITTING -- ONE OF OUR JUDGES WHO SPOKE EARLIER SERVES AS A LION WITH ME.

AND I AM PROUD OF THE WORK THAT THEY DO.

WITH THAT BEING SAID, I DO WANT TO MENTION ON ANOTHER ONE OF THE ITEMS ON ITEM G-11. WANTON POINT OUT THAT IS ACTUALLY THE FUNDING FOR OUR MENTAL HEALTH COURT.

AND IT -- I WANT TO THANK COMMISSIONER INGALSBE FOR HER HELP ON THE OTHER ITEM THAT IS ON HERE SPECIFIC TO OUR MENTAL HEALTH SERVICES. AND I WANT TO SILL STRAIGHT THAT THAT GRANT APPLICATION ACTUALLY COMES AT NO COST TO THE COUNTY.

WE ARE NOT REQUIRED TO PROVIDE ANY MATCHING FUNDS AND I BELIEVE WE WILL HAVE ESTABLISHMENT OF THAT FOR FUNDS FOR THE COURT AND

PROGRESS ON THAT FRONT. >>JUDGE BECERRA: THANK YOU, DR.

CARDENAS, PLEASE CALM THE ROLL. >>COMMISSIONER SHELL: YES.

>>COMMISISONER COHEN: YES. >>COMMISSIONER INGALSBE: YES

[Items G18 - G22, G24]

SMITH YES. >>JUDGE BECERRA: YES.

18-24 I WAS ASKED TO PULL 23. >>DR. CARDENAS: G-18, AUTHORIZE THE EXECUTION OF A RESOLUTION OF THE SUBMISSION OF A GRANT APPLICATION TO THE OFFICE OF THE GOVERNOR STATED HOMELAND SECURITY GRANT PROGRAM FOR THE HAYS COUNTY TEAM MONITOR MAINTENANCE IN THE AMOUNT OF $14,470.

18, AUTHORIZE THE SUBMISSION OF A GRANT RENEWAL TO THE DEPARTMENT OF STATE HEALTH SERVICES, TUBERCULOSIS, STATE GRANT PROGRAM IN THE AMOUNT OF $39,611.

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G-20, APPROVE THE REAPPOINTMENT OF TOM RICHEY TO THE BOARD OF EMERGENCY SERVICES DISNEY 3 FOR A TWO-YEAR TERM ENDING DECEMBER 31, 2024. 21, APPROVE THE APPOINTMENT OF CHASE STAPP TO IT THE BOARD OF MRG SERVICES DISNEY 3 EFFECTIVE FEBRUARY 1, 2023 FOR A TWO-YEAR TERM ENDING DECEMBER 31, 2024.

22, ACCEPT THE 2022 RACIAL PROFILING REPORT FROM THE HAYS COUNTY CONSTABLE OFFICE PRECINCT 5.

AND NUMBER 24, ACCEPT DONATIONS TOTALING $12,0678 # 67 OF THE BEHALF OF THE HAYS COUNTY CHIEF PROTECTIVE ARE BOARDER.

>> SO MOVED. >> SECOND.

>>JUDGE BECERRA: RODRIGO AMAYA. >> JUDGE, I NOTICE ON THIS ITEM IN THE BACK OF WHAT WAS SUBMITTED, THE OVERVIEW IS TARGETED AND DIRECTED AT TERRORISM AND OTHER CATASTROPHIC EVENTS. I WOULD APPRECIATE SOME KIND OF A SMALL LITTLE PRESENTATION, IF POSSIBLE, FROM THE DEPARTMENT HEADS AS TO WHAT IS -- ANYTHING MATERIAL THAT MIGHT KIND OF CONVINCE ME THAT SOMETHING IS BEING DONE.

WHAT ARE YOU DOING WITH THOSE FUNDS? I KNOW A LOT OF PEOPLE TALK ABOUT -- WHEN THEY SAY IT DOESN'T COST US. WE ARE THE GOVERNMENT.

WE ARE THE STATE OF TEXAS. WE ARE HAYS COUNTY.

WE ARE THE CITY OF SAN MARCOS. ALL US.

THE TAME, INDIVIDUALS. >>JUDGE BECERRA: THANK YOU.

MISS CRUMBLY, ANY COMMENTS ON THAT ITEM, G-18?

>> TAMMY CRUMLEY, DIRECTOR OF COUNTYWIDE OPERATIONS.

THESE ARE ON WHAT WE ALREADY HAVE.

MAINTENANCE PROGRAM FOR 14 OF THE MONITORS.

MIKE JONES CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS ON THE OPERATION OF THOSE MONITORS, BUT IT IS THE MAINTENANCE PROGRAM FOR THOSE

MONITORS. >>JUDGE BECERRA: THANK YOU, MIKE JONES, IF YOU WILL PLEASE SPEAK A LITTLE BIT.

THE PODIUM IS PROBABLY THE EASY MAN FOR THE CAMERAMAN TO ZOOM

INTO. >> THIS IS A -- THIS IS AN ANNUAL THING WE DO. IT KEEPS US SAFE IN PUBLIC SAFETY. SO USE GRANT FUNDS TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN VERSUS USING OUR COUNTY FUNDS.

>>JUDGE BECERRA: I WOULD LIKE TO ADD WHEN WE DO THESE DRILLS, YOU HAVE BOTH AS DEPARTMENT HEADS GONE THERE WHEN I WENT TO THESE DRILLS. THE LAST ONE, REMIND ME, WAS IT IN KYLE? THE LAST DRILL WAS IN KYLE.

AND INCLUDED THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT AND ESD 5.

AND A BUNCH OF OTHER PARTNERS. AND SOME OF THESE READERS OF TOXIC MATERIALS IN THE AIR TO A CERTAIN LEVEL AT A CERTAIN RADIUS CARRY INSTRUMENTS. WE ARE -- FOLKS MAY NOT KNOW THIS, BUT AS THE FASTEST-GROWING COUNTY IN THE NATION.

POPULATION NORTH OF 100,000. AS THE COUNTY HAVING THE UNIVERSITY AND OTHER INSTITUTIONS AND 35 RUNNING THROUGH US AND THE PROXIMITY TO TRAVIS COUNTY, WE HAVE SO MUCH MOVING THROUGH OUR COUNTY THAT THESE SHOWINGS OF SUPPORT FROM THE DIVISION OF EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT AMONG OTHER STATE AGENCIES AND THE PARTNERSHIPS THAT WE HAVE WITH OUR FIRST RESPONSE IS SO BENEFICIAL, SO CRITICAL THAT WHEN WE ARE OUT THERE DOING DRILLS, WE LITERALLY HAVE WILLIAMSON COUNTY, TRAVIS COUNTY WATCH WHAT WE ARE DOING WITH OUR MONITORS WHILE WE ARE RUNNING THE EXERCISES LOOP OF STATE SUPPORT IS BENEFICIAL AS A REGION. I SUPPORT THE MESSAGING AND THE WORDING OF TEAMWORK AND UNITY AND RELATIONALISM BECAUSE IT IS THIS EXACT THING THAT HELPS KEEP US ALL SAFE WHEN THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT WANT TOP DISRUPT OUR PEACE.

THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THIS FORWARD, TAMMY AND MIKE, AND THANK YOU FOR CONTINUING TO WORK WITH OUR LOCAL PARTNERS, REGIONAL PARTNERS AND STATE PARTNERS.

VERY IMPORTANT PROGRAM. ANYTHING ELSE, COMMISSIONERS.

>> I JUST HAVE ONE ON COMMISSIONER INGALSBE, ON HER ITEM NUMBER 24. I WANT TO THANK THOSE WHO DONATED TO THE CHILD PROTECTIVE SERVICES BOARD.

SPECIFICALLY THE BLUE BONNET LION'S CLUB.

AGAIN THE LIONS STEPPING UP AGAIN.

KT FENCE. DRIPPING SPRINGS CLUB, MARY FULTON, DYLAN GARCIA AND DMV MORES ARE DEAN AND LAMAR

HANGENS. >>COMMISSIONER INGALSBE: THANK YOU, COMMISSION, FOR MENTIONING THAT.

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VERY IMPORTANT. >>JUDGE BECERRA: VERY NICE AND WHY WE ARE A TEAM. I APPRECIATE CREATECOMMISSIONER SHELL LEANING IN. I AM GENERALLY GRATEFUL THAT I BELIEVE AFTER OUR VOTE THAT IT WILL TURN A CORNER.

THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER SHELL. PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

>>COMMISSIONER INGALSBE: YES. >>COMMISSIONER SHELL: YES.

>>COMMISSIONER SMITH: YES. >>COMMISISONER COHEN: YES.

[Items G25 - G30]

>>JUDGE BECERRA: YES. 25-30 PLEASE.

>>DR. CARDENAS: 25, AUTHORIZE THE EXECUTION OF THE PREAWARD FOR THE TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF AGRICULTURE COMMUNITY BLOCK DEVELOPMENT GRANT FOR THE CEDAR OAKS MESA WATERLINE IMPROVEMENT PROJECT. G-26, APPROVE SPECIFICATIONS FOR RFP 2023-P 04 COUNTYWIDE ELECTRICAL AND AUTHORIZE PURCHASING TO OLIS IT PROPOSALS AND ADVERTISE.

G-27, AUTHORIZE THE COUNTY JUDGE TO EXECUTE A CONTRACT AMENDMENT WITH PARABELLUM RESEARCH PURSUANT TO DUTY AND TRAINING AMMUNITION, ADDING TWO ADDITIONAL ITEMS TO THE CONTRACT. G-28, AUTHORIZE THE EXECUTION OF A RESOLUTION OF THE SUBMISSION OF A GRANT APPLICATION TO THE OFFICE OF THE GOVERNOR RIFLE RESISTANCE BODY ARMOR GRANT PROGRAM IN THE AMOUNT OF $23,034.40.

G-29 APPROVE SPECIFICATIONS FOR IFB 2023-B 03 ROBERT S.

LIGHT BOULEVARD AUTHORIZE PURCHASING TO ADVERTISE AND SOLICIT FOR BIDS. 30, AUTHORIZE THE EXECUTION OF THE RESOLUTION IN THE ACCEPTANCE OF THE RENEWAL GRANT AWARD FOR THE TEXAS INDIGENT DEFENSE COMMISSION FOR $41,80 6.

>> MOTION. >> SECOND.

>>JUDGE BECERRA: NO ONE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK.

CALL THE ROLL. >>COMMISSIONER SMITH: YES.

[Item K.12. Discussion on status of salary study conducted by Management Advisory Group International, Inc. S H E LL/MILLE R]

>>COMMISISONER COHEN: YES. >>COMMISSIONER SHELL: YES.

>>COMMISSIONER INGALSBE: YES. >>JUDGE BECERRA: YES MOVE

TO K-12. >> K 12 REASON DISCUSSION OF STATUS OF SALARY STUDY CONDUCTED BY MANAGEMENT ADVISORY GROUP

INTERNATIONAL. >> MOTION.

>> SECOND. >>JUDGE BECERRA: SAYS DISCUSSION. NO ACTION.

PURELY TO BE DISCUSSED. JUST TO MAKE SURE WE UNDERSTAND.

JUST TO MAKE SURE WE UNDERSTAND THE ITEM.

>> GOOD MORNING, SHERRY MILLER, HR DIRECTOR HAYS COUNTY.

THIS ITEM IS TO PROVIDE AN UPDATE ON THE LONG-TERM SALARY STUDY. SO AS OF FRIDAY AFTERNOON, MATT IS STILL RUNNING REPORTS ON MARKET DATA, SALARY STRUCTURE. THEY HAVE PROVIDED.

THEY WANTED ME TO PRESENT THIS ON THEIR BEHALF.

I DID ASK THE REPRESENTATIVES TO BE HERE TODAY.

THEY -- THAT WAS LATE LAST WEEK. TIMING, FLIGHTS.

THEY DO PLAN ON BEING HERE NEXT WEEK BECAUSE AS HER REPORT -- WHEN I GET TO IT -- SAYS THAT THERE WILL BE SOME CHARTS COMING EARLY THIS WEEK. AND WITH THOSE CHARTS, MAG REPRESENTATIVE WILL BE HERE TO MEET WITH DEPARTMENT HEADS AND

ELECTED OFFICIALS. >>JUDGE BECERRA: MISS MILLER, I DON'T WANT TO GET YOU TOO FAR AHEAD.

DO YOU HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU WHEN THIS WORK THAT THEY ARE COMING DOWN TO MEET WITH THE DEPARTMENT HEADS AND ELECTED OFFICIALS, DO YOU HAVE THE CONTRACTUAL DUE DATE OF THIS INFORMATION?

>> IF I WILL READ YOU HER E-MAIL.

>>JUDGE BECERRA: THE DUE DATE OF THE CONTRACT IS WHAT I AM

ASKING. >> THE DUE DATE OF THE CONTRACT?

>>JUDGE BECERRA: WHEN ARE THEY SUPPOSED TO HAVE THIS DONE.

>> WITHIN 150 DAYS. >>JUDGE BECERRA: WHICH WHAT IS

THE DATE. >> WE CONTRACTED AROUND THE 7TH OF JUNE, SO THE PLAN OR THE REQUEST WAS TO HAVE THE FINAL REPORT IN TIME TO ADOPT IN THE BUDGET.

SO I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT 150 DAYS IS.

>>JUDGE BECERRA: MR. KENNEDY, DO YOU HAVE THAT DATE HANDY?

>> I DON'T BUT I CAN RUN THE NUMBERS.

>>JUDGE BECERRA: AS IT UNFOLDS AND SHE KEEPS PRESENTING, I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THAT DATE BEFORE SHE GETS OFF THE PODIUM.

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>> MAY I CONTINUE? >>JUDGE BECERRA: YES, PLEASE.

MUCH. >> OKAY.

SO THE LATEST UPDATE FROM MAG INDICATES THAT THEIR CONTRACT WORK ON THE CLASSIFICATION AND COMP STUDY WAS APPROVED IN JUNE OF 2022. IT PROVIDED AN EMPLOYEE DATA SHEET ESSENTIAL FOR PROJECT INITIATION WHICH WAS RECEIVED IN AUGUST. SO UNDERSTANDING THEY COULD NOT REALLY BEGIN THEIR WORK UNTIL THEY RECEIVED THAT DATA SHEET, WHICH ALLOWED WORK TO START AND WAS UPDATED -- I SUBSEQUENTLY HAVE UPDATED THAT DATA SHEET IN NOVEMBER AND DECEMBER TO KEEP OUR EMPLOYEE DATA CURRENT IN MAG'S FILES.

>>COMMISSIONER INGALSBE: ONE MORE TIME, THEY RECEIVED THE

DATA SHEET WHEN? >> IN AUGUST.

>>COMMISSIONER INGALSBE: AUGUST. >>JUDGE BECERRA: YOU KNOW A MILLION QUESTIONS. THAT IS WHY WE ARE ASKING.

>> SURE. I WISH I WOULD HAVE KNOWN THE QUESTIONS BEFOREHAND, I WOULD HAVE BEEN PREPARED.

I DON'T KNOW THE EXACT DATE. I CAN FIND IT.

WE CAN CERTAINLY COME BACK TO EXACT DATE.

>>JUDGE BECERRA: COMMISSIONER INGALSBE, TO CLARIFY, SHE SAID JUNE 22, WE APPROVED IT. WE GAVE IT -- TWO MONTHS LATER THEY RECEIVED THE DATA SHEET. CAN YOU TELL US WHAT THE DATA SHEET ENTAILS FOR THE VIEWING PUBLIC.

>> YES, SIR ABOUT. THE DATA SHEET WAS A SPREADSHEET, BASICALLY, ALL OF OUR POSITIONS AND EMPLOYEES.

SOME -- WHETHER THEY WERE MALE OR FEMALE, THEIR RACE, THE DATE OF EMPLOYMENT AND THEIR PROMOTION DATE OR DATE INTO THEIR CURRENT POSITIONS. THEIR CURRENT SALARY.

THE DEPARTMENT, WHERE THE DEPARTMENT WAS LOCATED IN TERMS OF GOVERNMENT CENTER, COURTHOUSE, ROAD DEPARTMENT, SALARY RANGE OF THEIR CURRENT POSITION WHETHER EXEMPT OR NONEXEMPT. THE DATA SHEET WAS PREPARED BY BRITTANY RICHEY AND WAS NOT TRANSMITTED TO MAG UNTIL EARLY -- I BELIEVE IT WAS EARLY AUGUST.

AND DURING THAT -- >>JUDGE BECERRA: SORRY, I AM GOING TO KEEP ASKING QUESTIONS AS WE GO SO IT DOESN'T GET TOO FAR AWAY FROM US. PLEASE DON'T TAKE THIS ANY MORE OF INFORMATION SHARING AND GATHERING.

WAS IT BRITTANY'S RESPONSIBILITY TO PROVIDE THOSE DATA SHEETS?

>> YES, IT WAS. BRITTANY -- AS THE COUNTY TRUSHTURER MAINTAINS THE RECORD AND SYSTEM OF ALL OF OUR COUNTY

POSITIONS AND EMPLOYEES. >>JUDGE BECERRA: YES, MA'AM,

THANK YOU SO MUCH. >>COMMISSIONER INGALSBE: THEN I HAVE JUST THE FOLLOW-UP. I THINK I KNOW THE ANSWER TO THIS BUT I WANTED TO ASK THIS -- THE 150 DAYS I WOULD IMAGINE STARTED IN JUNE AND NOT AUGUST AFTER THEY GOT THE DATA SHEET,

THAT'S CORRECT? >> THE CONTRACT INITIATED IN

JUNE. >>JUDGE BECERRA: THAT IS RIGHT.

>>COMMISSIONER INGALSBE: THE 150 DAYS STARTED AT THIS TIME.

>>JUDGE BECERRA: AS SOON AS I SIGNED IT.

>> YES, MA'AM. WE TALKED TO MAG THE VERY NEXT DAY ONCE THE COURT APPROVED IT ON THE 7 TH VICKI, BRITTANY ANDI

WERE ON THE PHONE WITH MAG. >>JUDGE BECERRA: DOES ANYBODY HAVE THE DUE DATE OF THE 150 DAYS FROM WHEN WE SIGNED IT? IF NOT, THAT'S OKAY. THANK YOU, MR. KENNEDY.

>> WOULD HAVE BEEN EARLY SEPTEMBER.

>> DEPENDING ON WHAT YOU WANT TO MARK OF THE DUE DATE BECAUSE OF THE FOR MAJEURE CLAUSE, I WOULD SAY THAT IS A FLOATING, YOU KNOW, I WOULD IMAGINE COMPANY WOULD ARGUE THAT THEY PROBABLY DIDN'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO PERFORM IT IF THEY DIDN'T HAVE THE INFORMATION BUT IF YOU STATE IT TO THE DATE OF THE CONTRACT EXECUTION EARLY NOVEMBER. IF YOU SET IT FROM THE DATE -- I DIDN'T HEAR THE EXACT DATE IN AUGUST WHEN IT WAS DELIVERED.

>> LET ME SEE IF I CAN FIND THAT DAY.

>>COMMISISONER COHEN: I HAVE ONE QUESTION.

>>JUDGE BECERRA: EARLY NOVEMBER THE DUE DATE WHEN I SIGNED THE CONTRACT. AND THEN WE COULD BASICALLY ADD ALMOST TWO MONTHS IMPORTANCE TO UNDERSTAND THE EXPECTATIONS AND THE GOALS AND THE ROAD MAP. COMMISSIONER COHEN.

WHILE SHE LOOKS IT UP. >>COMMISISONER COHEN: I AM CURIOUS, WHAT PHASE OF THE DELIVERABLES ARE WE CURRENTLY IN. ARE WE IN SEVEN WHICH IS DEVELOP AND SUBMIT THE FINAL PROJECT REPORT?

>> WE ARE JUST PRIOR TO THAT. >>COMMISISONER COHEN: SO IN

PHASE 6, JOB PROJECT, DAY 1150. >>JUDGE BECERRA: A WATCHED POT

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NEVER BOILS IS A CLICHE THAT COMES TO MIND.

>> AUGUST 3 AT 5:10 P.M., SEPTEMBER THE FILE TO MAG.

IT WAS ENCRYPTED AND THEY COULD NOT OPEN IT OR DOWNLOAD IT.

AND SHE RESENT IT THOUGH WITHIN A DAY OR SO.

THERE WASN'T A HUGE DELAY IN RESENDING.

>>JUDGE BECERRA: THAT WILL GIVE US AN APPROXIMATE DUE DATE.

>> JANUARY. EARLY JANUARY.

>>JUDGE BECERRA: THANK YOU, SIR. >> GIVEN THAT DUE DATE ON DECEMBER 6, THEY DID SUBMIT A DRAFT PAY PLAN AND A RECORD OF THE MARKET DAY ON THE POSITIONS THAT THEY BENCHMARKED AND WE WILL TALK ABOUT THAT. SHE TALKS ABOUT THAT IN JUST A MEN. CONDUCTED A MARKET REVIEW INCLUDING 63 OF THE COUNTY'S 254 JOB TITLES REPRES REPRESENTING REFERENTIAL JOBS OF THE COUNTY'S CURRENT PAY PLAN AND ENCOMPASSING MAJOR JOB FAMILIES.

I ACTUALLY HAD TO PUSH MAG A LITTLE BY THE TO GET TO THE 63.

THEY WERE CONCERNED OF SURVEYING THE OTHER ENTITIES FOR SO MANY POSITIONS. BUT I GOT THEM TO INCLUDE MOST OF THE BENCHMARK POSITIONS THAT WE HAVE BENCHMARKED IN THE PAST.

MARKET DATA WAS RECEIVED FROM -- THESE ARE THE COUNTIES AND ENTITIES THAT THE COMMISSIONERS COURT APPROVED.

I DON'T HAVE THE EXACT DATE, BUT SOME TIME IN JULY, THEY WERE PREPARING THEIR BENCHMARKING WORK,ND THESE ARE THE END TEASE THAT MAG PRESENTED AND THAT THE COURT APPROVED.

COLLINS, FORT BEND, GUADELUPE, SMITH, TRAVIS AND WILLIAMSON COUNTIES. CITIES OF KYLE AND SAN MARCOS.

AND THEN A -- A WAGE SYSTEM PULLED IN ONET WHERE IT IS SELF-REPORTED WAGES. A SYSTEM THAT A LOT OF GOVERNMENT INSTITUTIONS USE TO GRAB SALARY DATA.

NOW ALL OF THE CORRESPOND DEPARTMENTS HAD CORRESPONDING JOBS WITH SURVEY TITLES. OVERALL THEIR ANALYSIS INDICATE THAT HAYS COUNTY IS 11.08 BELOW THE AVERAGE MARKET AT RANGE MINIMUM. 10.24% OF RANGE MIDPOINT AND 9.94 AT RANGE MAXIMUM. THE COUNTY PROVIDED EXTENSIVE RECENT DIRECT COMPARISONS FOR JOBS HELD BY ELECTED AND APPOINTED OFFICIALS. JOB PROFILE QUESTIONNAIRES.

THESE ARE THE QUESTIONNAIRES THAT ARE OUR EMPLOYEES COMPLETED. BETWEEN AUGUST OF '22 AND OCTOBER OF '22, HAYS COUNTY EMPLOYEES AND THEIR SUPERVISORS HAD THE ABILITY TO PROVIDE INFORMATION ON THEIR JOB THROUGH A FACTOID QUESTIONNAIRE. 80 PARTICIPANT OF SOME OR MORE RESPONSES. AND THEY HAVE SHARED THEY WERE.

VERY COMPLIMENTARY OF THE NUMBER OF EMPLOYEES THAT PARTICIPATED IN THE SURVEY. IN ADDITION FOR ARE A IF YOU WILL COMPLEMENT OF JOB AND CLASS DESCRIPTIONS HAVE BEEN PROVIDED BY THE COUNTY THAT PROVIDE ADDITIONAL SUPPORT FOR THE LEVELS OF WORK RESPONSIBILITIES. MAG PROVIDED AN OPPORTUNITY FOR FURTHER INTERNAL INPUFT THROUGH A SERIES OF STRUCTURED INTERVIEWS CONDUCTED BY MAG AND SENIOR STAFF.

WHAT WAS HAPPENING THERE, DEPARTMENT HEADS WERE WANT TOING TALK TO MAG. THEIR QUESTIONNAIRES WERE IN.

THEY KNEW THEY WERE GETTING MARKET DATA TOGETHER.

THEY WANTED TO VERBALLY TALK WITH MAG AND EXPRESS THEIR OWN STORIES FOR EACH OF THE DEPARTMENTS.

SO THAT OFFER WAS OUT THERE. I WAS NOT A PARTY OF THOSE INTERVIEWS. I NEED THAT TO BE BETWEEN MAG AND OUR DEPARTMENT HEADS. SO THOSE HAPPENED OVER A COUPLE OF DAYS. TO MY KNOWLEDGE, A LOT OF DEPARTMENT HEADS AND OFFICIALS DID SPEAK WITH MAG ABOUT THEIR POSITIONS. MAG HAS REACHED A POINT NEARING STUDY, THAT COST PROJECTIONS BE EXPECTED FOR A MORE CH IS TO-

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COMPETITION AND PAY PLAN. MAG WILL ALSO PROVIDE AN IMPLEMENTATION PLAN THAT IS VERIFIED AND STATISTICALLY VALIDATED THAT PROVIDE A UNIVERSAL FORMULA FOR ADJUSTMENT. THAT IS APPLIED TO ALL JOBS IDENTIFIED AS BEING WITHIN THE COUNTY'S SCOPE OF REVIEW FOR MAG. AS MAG COMPLETES THE STUDY, A 7.#% ADJUSTMENT WILL BE COMPUTED FOR PROPOSED RAGES.

WHAT SHE MEANS THERE IS IN ADDITION TO THE PROPOSED RANGES, SHE IS GOING TO RECOMMEND PUSHING THEM BY NUMBER 7.12%.

THE 7.2% IS A CALCULATION THAT REPRESENTS THREE AVERAGE COST INDEXES AVAILABLE FOR 2022. THE EMPLOYMENT COST INDEX AT 5.2. THE COST OF LIVING AT 7.7 AND SOCIAL SECURITY ADJUSTMENT AT 8.7.

THAT IS WHAT WE ARE WAITING FROM HER TODAY.

AS OF FRIDAY LATE AFTERNOON INTO THE EVENING, THERE WAS COMMUNICATION WITH MAG ABOUT LET'S GET A FINAL -- YOUR FINAL -- YOUR RECOMMENDATION. AND LET'S GIVE IT TO THE DEPARTMENT HEADS AND ELECTED OFFICIALS.

AND SEE HOW IT COMES OUT. NEXT STEPS INCLUDE MAG DEVELOPING A REPORT WITH DETAILED IMPLEMENTATION OPTIONS.

SO FELL IN PRESENT OPTIONS ON HOW TO IMPLEMENT GIVEN THE FISCAL IMPACT WHETHER TO IMPLEMENT ALL AT ONCE OR OVER A PERIOD OF TIME. A MARKET REPORT THAT WILL PLACE THE COUNTY AT A MARKET AVERAGE WITH PROPOSE AID JUSTMENT THAT WILL ENABLE THE COUNTY TO EFFECTIVELY COMPETE IN THE '23-'24 MARKET. I HAVE PROBABLY OVER 2 T,000 E-MAIL COMMUNICATION BETWEEN MAG AND MY INVEST, VICKY DORSETT AND MYSELF AND ALEX IS INCLUDED AS OF FRIDAY IN SOME OF THOSE COMMUNICATIONS I HAVE MANY, MANY COMMUNICATIONS BETWEEN MYSELF AND MISS RICHIE IN THE JUNE AND JULY.

MOST OF YOU ARE AWARE OF THAT HURT.

SO UNTIL YOU GET A FINAL REPORT, WE CAN -- I HAVE ALREADY GIVEN YOU THEIR INITIAL REPORT IN DECEMBER.

AND YOU SAW THE SHAPE THAT WAS IN.

>>JUDGE BECERRA: MISS MILLER, I WILL LIKE TO SAY ROLLING BACK A LITTLE BIT. NOT AN INTERRUPTION, BUT I WILL SAY THAT YOU SAID MAG WASN'T AVAIL TO FLY IN.

I WANT TO SAY FOR THE RECORD, PERSONALLY, NOT AS THE COURT, I WOULD -- SOMEONE SO FAR AWAY TO COME IN AND PRESENT TO COURT, I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU AND ANYONE ELSE TO PLEASE ASK THEM TO ZOOM INSTEAD OF BUYING A TICKET, GETTING AWAY FROM THEIR FAMILIES, SPENDING THE NIGHT AND ALL THOSE OTHER EXPENSES THAT ULTIMATELY ONE WAY OR ANOTHER WE WILL END UP PAYING FOR ANYWAY.

I REALLY ENCOURAGE A ZOOM FOR TODAY WOULD HAVE BEEN GREAT AND A ZOOM INSTEAD OF A FACE TO FACE.

WE HAVE THE ABILITIES. WE INVESTED IN THE TECHNOLOGY.

AND I WOULD PERSONALLY -- I DON'T KNOW HOW MY COLLEAGUES FEEL, BUT I WOULD PERSONALLY ENCOURAGE THEM TO ZOOM IN

INSTEAD OF BEING IN PERSON. >> I WILL ENCOURAGE THEM TO COME IN PERSON AND NOT CHARGE US. SO.

>>JUDGE BECERRA: THE PROBLEM IS IN BUSINESS, WHICH THIS IS, IT SOUNDS GOOD. BUT WHEN I TELL -- TAUGHT MY KIDS THIS, WHEN THEY WERE VERY YOUNG.

IS THIS FREE. NO, IT IS NOT FREE, IT IS INCLUDED. NOTHING IS FREE.

AND THAT IS THE LENS I AM LOOKING THROUGH.

>> YES, SIR, I WILL COMMUNICATE THAT.

THEY DO PLAN ON HAVING ONE OF THEIR LEAD STAFF MEMBERS HERE NEXT WEEK TO WORK WITH OUR DEPARTMENT HEADS AND ELECTED OFFICIALS. I WILL ASSIST IN GETTING THAT SET UP, GET THEM A ROOM AND THEY CAN EXPLAIN THEIR ANALYSIS TO THE DEPARTMENT HEADS AND ELECTED OFFICIALS AND THEY DO PLAN -- THEY FELT IT WAS TOO SOON TO COME ON THE 14TH FOR THEIR -- FOR THEIR FINAL PRESENTATION. SO THAT REALLY WILL ALL DEPEND ON HOW THOSE DISCUSSIONS GO NEXT WEEK WITH THE DEPARTMENT HEADS AND ELECTED OFFICIALS. IF THEY GET IN THERE AND SAY NO, MOVE THIS, MOVE THAT. NO HERE OR THERE.

>>JUDGE BECERRA: ACCESS, I GET IT.

>> I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEIR CAPABILITY IS TO GET BACK HERE

THEN ON THE 14TH. >>COMMISSIONER INGALSBE: THANK YOU, JUDGE. SHERRY, THANK YOU SO MUCH.

I THINK, JUDGE, SOME OF THIS CONCERN IS THAT NONE OF THIS INFORMATION HAD BEEN PROVIDED, RIGHT.

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I MEAN THIS IS A LOT OF GOOD INFORMATION.

IT IS SHORT AND CONCISE, BUT GOOD INFORMATION THAT I THINK OUR DEPARTMENT HEADS AND ELECTED OFFICIALS NEEDED TO HAVE PRIOR TO TODAY AND I THINK THAT IS SOME OF THE CONCERN.

WE DIDN'T KNOW HOW THEY WERE COMING TO WHAT -- ALL WE SAW WERE NUMBERS, RIGHT. AND GRADES.

AND I JUST FEEL IF SOME OF THIS HAS BEEN RELEASED WE WOULDN'T HAVE AS MANY CONCERNS AS WE DO RIGHT NOW BECAUSE IT WOULD BE NICE TO KNOW HOW THEY CAME TO THEIR CONCLUSION.

AND IT IS GOOD ALSO TO KNOW THAT 11.08 BELOW THE MARKET, THE AVERAGE MARKET. 10.42 BELOW THE AVERAGE MARKET AT RANGE MIDPOINT. THE FIRST ONE WAS MINIMUM AND 9.54 BELOW AT RANGE MAXIMUM. I THINK THOSE ARE ALL GOOD, IMPORTANT POINTS TO HAVE OUR DEPARTMENT HEADS AND ELECTED OFFICIALS KNOW. AND I THINK THE LACK OF THIS INFORMATION WAS AS CAUSE OF CONCERN TO EVERYONE.

AND ALSO THE TIME THAT IT HAS TAKEN, YOU KNOW, TO GET TO THAT POINT. I THINK YOU HAVE HEARD THAT MULTIPLE TIMES FROM ALL OF US SAYING THAT IT IS JUST TAKE SO LONG. AND I KNOW THESE THINGS TAKE TIME; HOWEVER, WE HAD HOPED TO IMPLEMENT SOMETHING OCTOBER 1.

YOU KNOW, I KNOW OUR EMPLOYEES ARE SUFFERING, YOU KNOW.

EVERYONE IS THROUGHOUT THE NATION.

SO WE REALLY NEED TO GET THIS ADDRESSED.

I HAD ONE OTHER POINT. BUT THAT IS KIND OF THE BASIS OF WHAT I WANTED TO SAY. I THINK THIS WOULD HAVE REALLY HELPED TO NOT HAVE SO MANY QUESTIONS AND CONCERNS.

OH, AND THEN THE OTHER THING. I THINK IT IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT TO HAVE MAG HERE INVOLVED, PRESENT AND OR THROUGH VIDEO AND ESPECIALLY TO TALK TO OUR DEPARTMENT HEADS AND ELECTED OFFICIALS. THEY HAD AN OPPORTUNITY EARLY ON AND I THINK IT IS PAST TIME THAT THEY SHOULD HAVE --

>> MAY I RESPOND? >>JUDGE BECERRA: YES, PLEASE.

>> YOU ARE RIGHT. THIS IS AMAZING INFORMATION.

WE HAVE -- WE, VICKI AND I SINCE DECEMBER, SINCE THE INITIAL CHARTS CAME OUT HAVE WORKED WITH MAG NEARLY EVERY WEEK TO UNDERSTAND THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS.

AND YOU ALL ASKED FOR THAT INITIAL INFORMATION.

AND I ASKED YOU TO HOLD IT CLOSE.

BECAUSE IT WAS NOT ANYWHERE NEAR WHAT OUR PAY PLANS ARE GOING TO END UP SUBSEQUENTLY PEOPLE HAVE SEEN THOSE CHARTS.

AND THERE IS A FOUR-PAGE DISSERTATION AGAINST MY CHARACTER ON THAT INFORMATION. AND -- WE HIRED A COMPANY TO DO THIS. I HAVE FACILITATED THEM AS BEST I CAN. WE WERE OVER TWO MONTHS BEHIND BEFORE WE EVEN STARTED. IN THOSE TWO MONTHS, I WAS FEEDING THIS COMPANY EVERYTHING INFORMATION WE HAD ABOUT OUR PAST PAY PLANS, ABOUT OUR CURRENT PAY PLANS, WHAT WE HAVE DONE IN THE PAST, THE MARKETS WE HAVE USED, OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS' INFORMATION, INCLUDING THE 200 #.

I WA FEEDING THEM CONSTANT INFORMATION. I DON'T WANT THE COURT TO THINK I WAS DOING NOTHING ON THE PAY PLAN.

WHEN THE QUESTIONNAIRES CAME OUT, ALL OF OUR PHONES RANG.

HOW DO I GET IN. WHAT DO I DO NOW? DO I ANSWER IT THIS WAY? MY OFFICE, MYSELF, AND KIM JETER PRIMARILY PROVIDED TREMENDOUS SUPPORT TO ALL OF THE EMPLOYEES THAT WERE INVOLVED IN THIS. IN THE MAN AND IN THE

QUESTIONNAIRE ANSWERING. >>JUDGE BECERRA: I AM GOING TO THROUGH THE REST OF THE COMMISSIONERS FOR QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS AT THIS POINT AND THEN ASK OUR CURRENT TREASURER TO SET UP SINCE YOU ADDRESSED SOME COMMENTS AND CONCERNS FROM THAT OFFICE. I WOULD LIKE FOR YOU TO SPEAK.

COMMISSIONER COHEN. >>COMMISISONER COHEN: THANK YOU FOR PROVIDING THIS TO US. THIS WAS REALLY GREAT.

AS THE NEWEST COMMISSIONER, THIS MONTH, I HAVE.

YOU KNOW I TALKED TO A LOT OF THE DEPARTMENT HEADS AND THE MESSAGE WAS PRETTY CONSISTENT WITH EVERY ONE THAT I TALKED TO, RIGHT. THE SALARY STUDY WAS THE NUMBER ONE TOPIC IN EVERY DEPARTMENT AND EVERY INDIVIDUAL THAT I SPOKE TO. AND ACTUALLY, I HAD MY OWN ISSUES WITH SALARY AS WELL. BUT I MADE THAT WORK.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I HAVE SEEN IN THE MANAGEMENT OF THE CONTRACT IS, YOU KNOW, I -- I AM A FORMER CONTRACT MANAGER, AND IN MY OLD JOB, WE ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE DELIVERABLES OF THESE. WHAT I DON'T SEE IS SOME OF THIS

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MANAGEMENT. I AM NOT SAYING IT IS YOU.

IT COULD BE JUST BE THAT YOU ARE SHORT STAFFED AND YOU CAN'T CONSTANTLY KEEP UP, BUT THING THAT IS A HOLE IN OUR LOCAL GOVERNMENT OF MANAGING OUR CONTRACTS EFFECTIVELY AND MAKING SURE THAT OUR VENDORS ARE BEING HELD ACCOUNTABLE TO THE -- TO THE DATES AND THE COMMITMENTS IN THESE CONTRACTS, AND SO, YOU KNOW, THE FACT THAT THEY ARE TELLING US THAT WE ARE COMING NEXT WEEK AND YOU COME. THAT IS UNACCEPTABLE.

WE SET THE DATE, YOU COME. THAT IS HOW IT WORKS.

WE SHOULDN'T BE AT THEIR MERCY THAT THEY DICTATE WHEN THEY COMEND WE MEET THEM. THAT IS SOMETHING AS A COURT WE DECIDE. OUR SCHEDULE.

WE CAN MEET WITH YOU ON THIS DATE YOU COME IN PERSON AND PRESENT. THAT IS HOW THAT WORKS.

I WANT TO GET ASSISTANCE TO OUR COUNTY EMPLOYEES.

YOU KNOW THIS IS -- 11%. THAT IS.

YOU KNOW THEY FEEL THAT. AND OUR EMPLOYEES FEEL THAT.

AND I DESPERATELY WANT TO DO SOMETHING FOR THEM.

LIKE YOU SAID IN THE SMALL TIME THAT I HAVE BEEN HERE, I HAVE DEFINITELY SEEN SOME HOLES THAT I THINK WE NEED TO ADDRESS AS A COUNTY, AS FAR AS HOLDING OUR -- THE PEOPLE WE DO BUSINESS WITH ACCOUNTABLE FOR THE DELIVERABLES.

AND THAT THEY MEET THEM. YOU KNOW, I WOULD HAVE LOVED TO HAVE SEEN THIS ALONG WITH THE CHART TABLE WITH THE NUMBERS, BECAUSE THAT WOULD HAVE MADE MORE SENSE TO ME, BECAUSE I HAD NO BACK-UP OR NARRATIVE WHAT THINGS WERE BEFORE.

I SAW THOSE -- THEY DIDN'T MEAN A LOT OTHER THAN FROM MY -- FROM MY COLLEAGUES AND OTHER DEPARTMENT HEADS.

IT DID MAKE SENSE. SO I THINK THAT'S -- YOU KNOW, I THINK WE JUST HOLD MAG A LITTLE MORE RESPONSIBLE FOR WHAT THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO BE PROVIDING FOR US.

AND I THINK IN THE FUTURE, THAT WE -- WE NEED TO ADDRESS THE WHOLE CONTRACT MANAGEMENT PIECE OF WHO WE DO BUSINESS WITH AND START REALLY HOLDING OUR VENDORS ACCOUNTABLE FOR WHAT THEY NEED

TO PROVIDE US. >>JUDGE BECERRA: WHAT THEY PROVIDE US AND WHEN. ABSOLUTELY.

I KNOW THAT IS PART OF IT. COMMISSIONER SHELL.

>>COMMISSIONER SHELL: JUST FROM THE IMMEDIATE CONCERNS, I WOULD -- I AGREE WITH COMMISSIONER COHEN.

WE NEED TO TELL THEM WHEN THEY NEED TO BE HERE.

AND GIVE OUR DEPARTMENT AS ELECTED OFFICIALS TO MAKE SURE IT WORKS IN THEIR SCHEDULE. I DON'T THINK ONE TIME IS SUFFICIENT, MULTIPLE DAYS. ACCOMMODATE EVERYBODY.

THEIR TIME. COURTS AND GOES -- JUDGES CAN'T WALK DOWN FROM THE SECOND AND THIRD FLOOR AND POP IN A MEETING FIVE MINUTES' NOTICE. I WANT TO MAKE SURE THEY COMMIT TO A TIME FRAME OF DAYS THAT THEY WILL BE HERE AND OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS DEPARTMENTS MAKE SURE THAT THEY CAN ALL FIT THAT INTO THEIR SCHEDULE. I STILL BELIEVE THAT A MEETING OF ALL DEPARTMENT HEADS AND ELECTED OFFICIALS MINUS A QUORUM OF THIS BODY IS NEEDED TO DISCUSS A FINAL PLAN.

WHATEVER THAT IS, WHATEVER COMES OUT.

THE FEEDBACK FROM THE POTENTIAL INTERNAL MEET WITH THE CONSULTANT OR GROUPS OF DEPARTMENT HEADS AND CONSULTANT.

I THINK EVERYBODY NEEDS TO GET TOGETHER TO THE BEST OF THEIR ABILITY WHENEVER THE CONSULTANT SAYS THEY HAVE A FINAL RECOMMENDATION. A LOT OF THE -- JUST FROM THE PAST ANY TIME ADJUSTMENTS ARE MADE, WE UNDERSTAND THEY DO EFFECT -- THE TRICKLE-DOWN EFFECTS TO OTHER JOBS AND OTHER DEPARTMENTS. ONE DEPTH WILL WALK OUT OF THAT MEETING WITH A CONSULTANT AND SAY THIS NEEDS TO BE THIS.

THEY MAY AGREE AND ALL OF A SUDDEN, WHAT WOULD HAVE BEEN CHANGED THE PAST, NEEDS TO BE HASHED OUT SO EVERYBODY CAN HEAR THE PERSPECTIVE. EVERYBODY DOESN'T KNOW WHAT HAPPENS IN THE OFFICES. IT SHOULD NOT BE EXPECTED THAT ONE EMPLOYEE OF A DEPARTMENT KNOW WHAT ANOTHER DEPARTMENT DOES. EVERYBODY IN THE ROOM TO EXPLAIN THE DUTIES, JOBS OF THEIR EMPLOYEES.

HOW LONG THEY HAVE BEEN THERE. WHAT IS AT STAKE.

ETC. SO THEY CAN HAVE THAT PERSPECTIVE WHEN LOOKING AT THAT FINAL PLAN.

OBVIOUSLY WANT TO DO SOMETHING FOR OUR EMPLOYEES.

NOT A SURPRISE WE WERE BELOW THE MARKET.

OUR MARKET IS AGAIN SIEVE WHEN YOU INCLUDE COUNTIES LIKE TRAVIS THAT HAVE ALREADY PAID AT A PREMIUM TO US.

SINCE THEY ARE OUR NEIGHBOR, THAT IS THE MARKET.

THAT IS -- THAT IS REALITY. WE HAVE TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT.

AND SO IT IS NOT A SURPRISE TO ME WE ARE BELOW.

WE OBVIOUSLY HAVE. I SAID THAT.

IF I WAS BILL GATES, I WOULD GIVE A 50%.

UNFORTUNATELY I AM NOT. AND HE DOESN'T LIVE IN OUR COUNTY, AND WHETHER THAT $100 MILLION HOUSE THAT HE HAS.

WE WILL HAVE TO FIND A WAY TO MAKE THAT WORK IN OUR BUDGET.

AND I DON'T KNOW THAT WE WILL BE ABLE TO SOLVES THE PROBLEM WITH

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WHAT WE HAVE BUDGETED FOR THIS YEAR.

I THINK WE CAN GET A LONG WAY TOWARD IT, BUT I DON'T KNOW THAT WE CAN SOLVE IT. SO PROBABLY GOING TO BE LOOKING TOWARD ACT AS WELL WHAT IS DONE IN ADDITION TO WHAT THESE FINAL RECOMMENDATIONS ARE. I DO BELIEVE THAT OBVIOUSLY THE SOONER THE BETTER SO WE CAN DO SOMETHING WITH WHAT WE HAVE BUDGETED. THAT MAKES SENSE.

THAT IS FAIR. IF THAT PUTS US SOMEWHERE IN OCTOBER THAT WE NEED TO HAVE ADDITIONAL RESOURCES PUT TOWARD GETTING US TO THE NEXT STEP, THEN THAT IS SOMETHING WE SHOULD CONSIDER AND I DON'T THINK WE CAN MAKE ANY DECISIONS WHAT NEEDS TO BE. AND ELECTED OFFICIALS TO SEE WHAT THEY THINK AND WHAT THEY THINK IS MOST FIT BECAUSE THEY KNOW THEIR EMPLOYES BETTER THAN ANYBODY ELSE.

SO WE NEED TO HEAR FROM THEM. >>JUDGE BECERRA: COMMISSIONER

SMITH. >>COMMISSIONER SMITH: THERE IS ATTO UNPACK HERE. THIS IS HELPFUL.

TWO MONTHS TOO LATE. I AM JUST TELLING YOU.

IF WE WENT FROM 150 DAYS FROM THE CONTRACT DATE OF JUNE 7, THAT IS NOVEMBER 4. WENT FROM AUGUST 1 BEN THEY GOT THE -- OR SOMEWHERE IN THAT NEIGH NEIGHBORHOOD, WE ARE LOOKING AT, YOU KNOW DECEMBER 29.

SOMETHING LIKE THAT. PETITION BEGINNING OF JANUARY.

AND WE ARE STILL AT A POINT WHERE THEY NEED TO COLLECT ADDITIONAL DATA. I CAN TELL THAT YOU IN THOSE -- IN THOSE INTERVIEWS, I TALKED TO -- I TALKED TO A NUMBER OF FOLKS THAT HAVE A VERY -- WHAT I THINK VERY LEGITIMATE CONCERN THAT JUST AS I ILLUSTRATED WITH THE JUSTICE CLERK POSITIONS EARLIER, THERE IS NOT REALLY AN UNDERSTANDING OF THE DIFFERENCE IN -- IN JOB DESCRIPTIONS VERSUS THE ACTUAL JOB TITLES THAT WE LOOKED AT. BY UNDERSTAND THE NEED TO NORMALIZE IT ACROSS DEPARTMENTS IN CERTAIN CASES.

BUT EVERY ONE OF OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS AND DEPARTMENT HEADS HAVE SPECIFIC NEEDS IN THOSE JOBS.

LIKE I SAID, A CLERK 2 IN THE COUNTY CLERK'S OFFICE IS VERY DIFFERENT THAN APPEAR CLERK IN A JUSHGZP'S OFFICE.

THEY DO VERY DIFFERENT JOBS. I THINK WHATEVER WE DO, WE HAVE TO RECOGNIZE THAT. I -- I HAVE REAL ISSUE WITH THE -- I KNOW WE HAVEN'T OPENED IT YET, BUT THE -- THE DIRECTIVE ACROSS-THE-BOARD PAY INCREASE FOR ALL POSITIONS UNDER A CERTAIN 4RLEVEL. I SAY THAT BECAUSE NUMBER ONE, KNOWING THAT EACH INDIVIDUAL JOBS AS WE LOOK AT THEM AND THE NUMBERS THAT -- THAT ARE EVEN IN THIS REPORT WHERE 11.0 # BELOW AVERAGE MARKET RATE. AT THE RANGE MINIMUM, TECHNICALLY IF WE DID AN ACROSS-THE-BOARD INCREASE TO GET THE MINIMUMS UP TO 11.08, HOW MANY POSITIONS IN THE LAST YEAR HAVE WE DONE. I MEAN EVEN IN TRANSPORTATION, WE DID THE -- WE DID THE STRUCTURE RETENTION BONUSES THIS YEAR. WE ARE AT A POINT WHERE WE HAVE EMPLOYEES THAT WOULD POSSIBLY BE GETTING A 30% TO 40% PAY INCREASE WITHIN A THREE-FOUR-MONTH PERIOD, WITHIN A FIVE-MONTH PERIOD, AND OTHER EMPLOYEES WHO HAVE GOTTEN NOTHING IN TWO YEARS, THREE YEARS.

AND SO I -- LOOKING AT THAT. I THINK IT HAS TO BE STRUCTURED.

THE WAY WE ADDRESS THESE THINGS. WE HAVE TO LOOK AT WHAT THAT DATA SAYS. BUT THERE IS JUST NO OTHER WAY TO PUT IT. I AM SORELY DISAPPOINTED WITH THIS VENDOR AND HOW THEY HAVE CONDUCTED THIS PROCESS.

AND MAYBE THE THOROUGHNESS OF THE PROCESS IS WELL-DONE, BUT THE TIMELINESS OF IT IS NOT. I DON'T KNOW ANOTHER WAY TO PUT

THAT. >>JUDGE BECERRA: YOU KNOW THOSE CREDIT CARD MACHINES THAT THEY USED TO USE WE ARE ALL AT A SIMILAR AGE, YOU PUT PUT THE CREDIT CARD ON THE COUNTER ON A MACHINE AND PUT A CARBON PAPER AND GO LIKE THAT.

YOU GOT THE VISUAL. LITERALLY SORELY DISAPPOINTED, COMMISSIONER. I AM LITERALLY CARBON COPYING YOUR SENTIMENT.

-- SORELY DISAPPOINTED TO SAY THE LEAST.

MISS TENORIO, WOULD YOU LIKE TO APPROACH THE PODIUM? AND FOR THE VIEWING PUBLIC REMEMBER NOT THAT SOMEONE STAYS AT 9 A.M. AND WATCHES THE WHOLE THING.

CLICK THIS AGENDA ITEM FIVE YEARS FROM NOW.

THAT IS WHY IT IS IMPORTANT WHEN WE APPROACH THE PODIUM TO MAKE IT A SEPARATE, INDEPENDENT CLICKABLE TRANSACTION SO PEOPLE KNOW WHO YOU ARE. SO IF YOU STATE YOUR NAME TITLE.

>> I AM DAPHNE TENORIO. I AM YOUR HAYS COUNTY TREASURER.

IT IS SURPRISING TO ME TODAY TO FIND OUT THAT THE TREASURER'S

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OFFICE WAS INCLUDED IN THIS BECAUSE I TOOK OFFICE JANUARY 1 AND I HAD NO IDEA. HIS NO ACCESS TO THE MATERIALS.

THE ONLY THING THAT I HAVE BEEN PRESENTED WAS THE SPREADSHEET SENT TO ALL OF US. A SORE DISAPPOINTMENT.

AS AN ACCOUNTANT IN BUSINESS BY HERSELF FOR 30 YEARS, I LOOK FOR BACKUP SUPPORTING DOCUMENTATION TO ENSURE THAT THOSE NUMBERS ARE ACCURATE AND VIABLE. THERE WAS NO SUPPORT ING DOCUMENTATION. TO ME, IN THE WAY THAT IT HAS OPINION PRESENTED AT THIS POINT, THIS CONTRACT AND THIS DELIVERABLE IS INVALID. THE REALITY IS WHEN WE ARE TALKING OF PAY STUDIES FOR OUR EMPLOYEES, THE COMMITTEE SHOULD HAVE CONSISTED OF A COMMISSIONER, AN ELECTED OFFICIAL, A DEPARTMENT HEAD, THE BUDGET OFFICE, AND THE HR DEPARTMENT. PERIOD.

UTILIZING OTHER SOURCES, OUTSIDE SOURCES THAT DO NOT HAVE ACCESS TO THIS INFORMATION OR THE ABILITY TO DELIVER WITHIN A TIMELY MANNER HAS LEFT US AT A POINT WHERE WE HAVE EMPLOYEE WHO ARE UNABLE TO LIVE ON A SURVIVING SALARY.

I WENT THROUGH MY EMPLOYEES' SALARIES AND WAS SHOCKED TO FIND THAT IF THEY WENT TO WORK FOR CHICK-FIL-A, THEY WOULD ACTUALLY MAKE MORE MONEY THAN WE MAKE HERE.

WE ARE AT A POINT IN OUR SOCIETY WHERE OUR EGGS ARE JUST -- LOOKING AT THESE SALARIES AND I HAD TO GO ORDER GROCERIES AND GETTING EGGS. LET'S JUST USE EGGS.

TWO PACKS OF 18 EGGS RIGHT NOW IS OVER $18.

I HAVE EMPLOYEES WHO ARE NOT EVEN MAKING THAT AN HOUR.

I ASK AND I URGE -- FIRST OFF, AS A PERSON WHO WAS SUPPOSED TO BE PART OF IN COMMITTEE, I WANT ACCESS TO ALL OF THE DOCUMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN PRESENTED. TO THE ORGANIZATION.

I WANT THE OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW THEM BECAUSE THE TREASURER WAS SUPPOSED TO BE A PART OF THAT COMMITTEE.

>> ACTUALLY -- >> THAT IS WHAT I UNSTOOD.

SHE WAS WORKING WITH BRITTANY. SO I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW THAT INFORMATION AS WELL.

SO MY CONCERN AT THIS POINT IN TIME, ONE, THE DELIVERABLES ARE SO LATE. IS IT EVEN A VALID STUDY AT THIS POINT? TWO, WE HAVE TO AS ELECTED OFFICIALS HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW THE DOCUMENTS.

A TWO-SIDED PIECE OF PAPER, THAT WAS $68,000? REALLY? AND WE STILL HAVE NO VIABLE INFORMATION FOR US AT THIS POINT? IN MY PERSONAL OPINION AND IN MY PROFESSIONAL OPINION, YOU ALL HAD A RIGHT TO REVIEW THOSE DOCUMENTS.

HAVE YOU? >> WE ALL WILL BE REVIEWING THEM. THAT -- I MEAN, WE ARE FRUSTRATED WITH THE TIMELINE, BUT, YES, WE WILL --

>> BUT THE DELIVERABLES CAME IN STAGES.

YOU SHOULD HAVE HAD ACCESS OF THE INFORMATION DURING EACH OF

THE PHASES. >> TREASURER, I THINK MAY HAVE BEEN SOME CONFUSION AS FAR AS THE TREASURER'S OFFICE WAS TASKED AT THE BEGINNING OF A SPREADSHEET OF EACH OF THE POSITIONS AND THE CURRENT PAY SCALE FOR THEM.

I THINK THAT WAS THE ONLY INVOLVEMENT.

AND CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT I BELIEVE THAT WAS THE ONLY INVOLVEMENT THAT -- CAN YOU ILLUSTRATE THAT.

I DON'T THINK THERE WAS -- THERE IS NOT A COMMITTEE TO ARE.

>>JUGE BECERRA: THE COMMENT IS THERE SHOULD HAVE BEEN.

>> I AGREE WITH THAT AND I WANT TO CLARIFY TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU DON'T FEEL LIKE YOU WERE LEFT OUT OF THE PROCESS.

I DON'T THINK THERE WAS A PROCESS.

>>JUDGE BECERRA: AS THE CHAIR OF THIS COURT, I WILL HAPPILY DO IT. PLEASE DON'T SPEAK OVER EACH

OTHER. >> I APOLOGIZE, BUT I WILL SAY THAT THE FACT THIS COMMITTEE DID NOT INCLUDE AN ELECTED OFFICIAL AT ALL LEAVES A LOT TO BE DES DESIRED. YOU HAVE ELECTED OFFICIALS AND AT-WILL LEADERSHIP. ELECTED OFFICIALS HAVE BEEN PUT IN PLACE BY THE VOTERS. THOSE ARE -- WE ARE CHARGED WITH OVERSEEING THE WORK OF THE GOVERNMENT.

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AND WHEN WE ARE NOT INCLUDED, IT LEAVES OPEN A CAN OF WORMS.

>>COMMISSIONER SMITH: THE ONE THING -- BELIEVE ME, I DIDN'T MEAN TO TALK OVER YOU. THE PROCESS.

I WANT TO EXPLAIN WHAT I UNDERSTAND THE PROCESS IS A LITTLE BIT. THE ONE THING -- IF WE GO BACK AND LOOK AT OUR DISCUSSION WHEN WE DID THIS CONTRACT, WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT IT, AND MIGHT ADDRESS ONE OF YOUR CONCERNS AS FAR AS ELECTED OFFICIALS. THERE IS A REASON THAT I WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN SUPPORTIVE OF AN INDIVIDUAL DEPARTMENT HEAD.

ALL OF THIS RUNNING THROUGH HR IS THE BEST THING.

I WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN SUPPORTIVE -- I WILL USE JERRY AS AN EXAMPLE. HE IS SITTING ON THE FRONT ROW.

JERRY BEING ON A COMMITTEE SIMILAR TO THIS OR AN ELECTED OFFICIAL, ONE OF US, OR ONE OF OUR OTHER, YOU KNOW, COUNTYWIDE ELECTED OFFICIALS BEING ON THERE BECAUSE AT THE END OF THE DAY, SIMILAR TO WHAT YOU JUST SAID, YOU PERSONALLY REVIEWED YOUR INDIVIDUAL EMPLOYEES. WHEN IT COMES DOWN TO WHAT THE RECOMMENDATIONS ARE GOING TO BE, I HAVE A FEAR -- JUST LIKE WHEN JERRY CAME IN HERE IN AUGUST OF LAST YEAR AND SAID THIS IS WHY MY EMPLOYEES NEED TO BE PAID MORE -- THIS IS WHY WE MAKE A EXCEPTION FOR THE DEPARTMENT BECAUSE WE HAVE TO DO THE RETENTION BONUSES BECAUSE LOSING THOSE EMPLOYEES.

KEEPING IT IN HR, DISASSOCIATES US AS INDIVIDUALS AND DEPARTMENT HEADS AS INDIVIDUALS FOR FAVORITISM TOWARD THEIR INDIVIDUAL DEPARTMENT FOR DIFFERENCES IN PAY SCALES VERSUS THE OTHER. AND THAT IS THE REASON I WOULD -- I AM JUST SAYING, THAT IS THE REASON WOULD WANT TO DO THAT.

CAN YOU EXPLAIN YOUR POSITION -- >>JUDGE BECERRA: HOLD ON.

MR. KENNEDY AND MISS MILLER. >> I WILL CONFIRM BY MY RECOLLECTION, NO COMMITTEE FORMED AND SECTION TWO OF THE CONTRACT THAT THE COURT APPROVED IN JUNE IDENTIFIES THE MR DIRECTOR AS THE POINT OF CON AT THAT THING FOR MAG.

>> I WOULD LIKE TO SAY ONE THING, COMMISSIONER SMITH, WITH REGARDS TO WHAT YOU JUST SAID. WHEN WE SIT ON COMMITTEES AND WORK WITH OUR DEPARTMENT HEADS, WE ARE SUPPOSED TO BE OBJECTIVE.

AND I GIVE CREDIT AND I HAVE FAITH IN THE ELECTED OFFICIALS THAT WE WORK WITH TO BE ABLE TO DO SO.

AND SO NOT GIVING AN OPPORTUNITY TOP DEPARTMENT HEADS AND ELECTED OFFICIALS TO BE A PART OF SOMETHING JUST BECAUSE WE ARE WORRIED ABOUT PERCEIVED BIAS, THAT SAME BIAS WORKS WITHIN THE CURRENT DEPARTMENT HEADS AS WELL.

>>JUDGE BECERRA: I WANT YOU TO KNOW ALSO IN THAT PHILOSOPHY THAT COMMISSIONER SMITH SHARED WHERE HE IS REALLY WELL ENTITLED TO. I DON'T AGREE WITH IT.

I BELIEVE THAT THE ASSORTMENT -- HINDSIGHT BIAS -- I AM A GENIUS BECAUSE I CAN LOOK BACK. MY VISION IS 20/20.

GOING BACK WHEN WE STARTED THIS I WOULD HAVE PUSHED FOR A CREATION OF A COMMITTEE TO HELP, SHERRY WITH THE LOAD, BECAUSE CLEARLY WE HAVE MUCH TO BE DESIRED.

>> ADDITIONALLY, WE -- AT THIS POINT, I AM -- WE ARE LOOKING -- AS A DEPARTMENT HEAD, I AM LOOKING AT PEOPLE WALKING OUT.

THEY HAVE BEEN STRUGGLING FOR SO LONG FOR THIS COMMISSIONERS COURT TO COME UP WITH SOMETHING. AND EACH TIME I COME BACK, DID THEY VOTE TODAY? DID THEY VOTE TODAY? DID THEY VOTE? ENOUGH IS ENOUGH.

>>JUDGE BECERRA: SHERRY MILLER AND MARISOL.

>>COMMISSIONER SHELL: I HAVE A COUPLE OF COMMENTS.

>>JUDGE BECERRA: CLARIFICATION FROM MARISOL.

>> WE WENT THROUGH THE RFP, THREE INDIVIDUALS ON THE SELECTION COMMITTEE FOR THE COMPANY PROVIDING THE SERVICE, THE COUNTY TREASURER, THE COUNTY BUDGET OFFICER AND SHERRY MILLER, DIRECTOR OF HUMAN RESOURCES.

TURNED IN EVALUATIONS AND THEY MADE THE RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE COMMISSIONERS COURT. THEY WERE A COMMITTEE FOR

THE RFP PROCESS. >>JUDGE BECERRA: THANK YOU.

COMMISSIONER SHELL. >>COMMISSIONER SHELL: TO CLARIFY, I BELIEVE THE BEST THING TO DO TO HAVE EVERY DEPARTMENT HEAD AND ELECTED OFFICIAL TOGETHER TO DISCUSS THIS. I WANT TO MAKE SURE THE DIRECTION IS AGAIN, IF THE COURT DOESN'T AGREE WITH ME, I DON'T WANT TO CONFUSE ANYONE AS PART OF THIS PROCESS.

I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IS SOMETHING THAT IS SUPPORTED, IF NOT, THE MAJORITY OF THE COURT NEEDS TO SUPPORT OUR TEAM

OTHERWISE. >>JUDGE BECERRA: WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO LET MISS MILLER FINISH HER COMMENTS AND ANSWER SOME QUESTIONS AND THEN WE CAN ENTERTAIN THAT CONVERSATION A

BIT FURTHER. >>COMMISSIONER SHELL: ANOTHER COMMENT FOR OUR EMPLOYEES, I HOPE THEY UNDERSTAND THAT WE ARE TRYING TO DO OUR BEST. WE ARE NOT PERFECT.

NOT EVERY INDIVIDUAL WHO WORKS FOR THIS COUNTY IS PERFECT.

FAR FROM IT. I AM FAR FROM IT MYSELF.

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FARTHER THAN MOST. THIS ISN'T THE EASIEST THING TO DO. WE DID IT BEFORE.

WE DID IT WHEN I WAS A STAFF MEMBER.

WE DID IT INTERNALLY. IT TOOK A WHILE.

A LOT OF BACK AND FORTH. IT WAS A LOT BETTER PROCESS.

NOT BECAUSE I WAS INVOLVED BUT CONSTANT COMMUNICATION OF DEPARTMENT HEADS AND ELECTED OFFICIALS AND UNFORTUNATELY THAT HAVE NOT BEEN THE CASE WITH THE FIRM HELPING US RIGHTS NOW.

TO ME, SOMETHING THAT LACKED AND PARTIALLY WHY WE HAVE GOTTEN TO WHERE WE ARE AND WHY THERE IS THIS ANXIETY WHICH IS UNDERSTOOD, WHETHER FROM A DEPARTMENT HEAD, ELECTED OFFICIALS OR EMPLOYEES. I WANT THE EMPLOYEES TO KNOW WE ARE TRYING TO GET TO THE FINISH LINE AND SOMETHING THAT ADDRESSES THE ISSUE. NOT JUST AS A QUICK FIX AND A FEW PERCENT BLAH-BLAH-BLAH. WE WILL MOVE ON AND DO OTHER THINGS. WE WANT TO YOU ARE OURSELVES ON A PATH SO WE DON'T GET TOO FAR BEHIND.

EXTENUATING CIRCUMSTANCES NOT JUST HERE BUT ACROSS THE COUNTRY THAT HAVE SOME THINGS TO DO WITH THE DIFFERENCE THAT WE ARE AT BUT THIS ISN'T NEW TO SAY IN HAYS COUNTY THAT WE ARE HAVING A HARDER TIME FAIRLY COMPENSATING OUR EMPLOYEES, KEEPING THOSE GOOD EMPLOYEES AND I HAVE A GREAT DEAL OF RESPECT FOR THIS PLACE. IT IS VERY IMPORTANT TO ME.

PERSONAL. NOT JUST THE COUNTY IN GENERAL OR WHAT IT STANDS FOR BUT THE PEOPLE THAT MAKE THE COUNTY WHAT IT IS I WANT FOLKS TO UNDERSTAND THAT.

THIS IS CLEARLY. THIS IS NOT EASY.

THIS IS NOT OUR MONEY. IT IS OUR TAXPAYERS MONEY.

WE WANT TO DO THE BEST WE CAN WITH IT.

WE UNDERSTAND WE ARE BEHIND AND WANT TO ADDRESS THAT IN THE MOST FAIR AND MEANINGFUL WAY THAT ACTUALLY RESULTS IN IMPROVEMENTS NOT JUST IMMEDIATELY BUT OVERTIME AS THE COUNTY CONTINUES TO GROW AND IT DOES AND WE WILL CONTINUE TO NEED TO HAVE QUALITY EMPLOYEES AND LEADERSHIP IN THE COUNTY.

I WANT TO MAKE THAT CLEAR TO ANYONE WHO MAY LISTEN OR PULL THIS UP IN THE FUTURE OR DO WHATEVER THEY WANT TO DO.

THIS IS PORCH TO -- IMPORTANT TO ME.

IT HAS BECOME MY LIFE.

THE WAKING HOURS AND HOURS I AM SUPPOSED TO SLEEP THINKING OF THIS PLACE, WHAT I CAN PUT INTO IT AND WHAT I CAN DO BETTER AND WHAT I AM ABLE TO MAKE SURE I AM ABLE TO MAKE PART OF AS LONG AS I'M HERE. I WANT PEOPLE TO UNDERSTAND

THAT. >>JUDGE BECERRA: THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER. MY AIM TO LET MISS MILLER WRAP

UP. >>COMMISISONER COHEN: CAN I MAKE

QUICK COMMENT AS WELL? >>JUDGE BECERRA: IF IT IS NECESSARY -- I HAD MISS MILLER WAITING.

>> VICKI DORSETT, HAYS BUDGET OFFICER.

I WANT TO EXPAND ON MARISOL'S COMMENT.

AFTER OF THE SELECTION COMMITTEE THAT THE COURT APPROVED, THAT WAS TO REVIEW THE -- ALL OF THE SOLICITATIONS THAT CAME IN.

I WORKED -- WE WORKED INDEPENDENTLY ON THE REVIEW OF ALL THE SOLICITATIONS. MADE THE RECOMMENDATION TO COURT. I -- I WAS INVOLVED IN THE PROCESS SINCE DECEMBER BECAUSE I -- IT WAS A MASSIVE AMOUNT OF DATA THAT CAME IN. I OFFERED TO ASSIST SHERRY AS ANOTHER DEPARTMENT HEAD THAT HAS A GLOBAL LOOK AT ALL THE DEPARTMENTS. UNDERSTANDS THE BUDGETED POSITIONS. WORKS WITH ALL THE DEPARTMENTS, STEERING THE BUDGET PROCESS, IS FAMILIAR WITH THE STRUCTURE OF THE DEPARTMENTS. AND KNOWS THE FUNDING PIECE OF IT. SO I OFFERED MY ASSISTANCE TO SHERRY AND I HAVE WORKED VERY CLOSELY WITH HER.

SHE HAS BEEN IN CONSTANT COMMUNICATION WITH MAG AND WITH THE DEPARTMENTS AND HAS PASSED ON INFORMATION AS IT HAS COME

IN. >>JUDGE BECERRA: MISS MILLER.

>> THANK YOU. I WILL JUST REITERATE ABOUT THE SELECTION PROCESS THAT THE COURT APPOINTED MARISOL SAID VICKI DORSETT, MYSELF AND BRITTANY RICHEY TO REVIEW THE FEW SOLICITATIONS THAT WE DID RECEIVE AND INDEPENDENTLY SCORED THEM AND THE SELECTION BASED ON OUR SCORING VERY INDEPENDENTLY WAS MAG. THE COURT APPROVED MAG AND NO FURTHER APPOINTMENT OF A COMMITTEE.

BRITTANY'S INVOLVEMENT PAST THAT POINT WAS THAT SHE MAINTAINS THE NEW WORLD SYSTEM THAT ALL OF OUR EMPLOYEE RECORDS ARE IN.

MY STAFF AND I HAVE ACCESS TO THAT SYSTEM TO VIEW.

BUT WE DO NOT HAVE THE IF YOU WILL GAMUT OF THE SYSTEM FOR REPORT PULLING. AND IT APPEARS THAT BRITTANY EVEN HAD TO PULL MULTIPLE REPORTS TOGETHER TO COME MILE THAT DATA SHEET. SINCE THEN I HAVE KEPT THE DATA RECORD UP TO DATE OFF OF PIECES OF PAPER OF PAYROLL CHANGE.

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SO WE HAVE, TODAY -- I CAN GIVE ANYBODY A RECORD OF EVERYBODY THAT IS INVOLVED OR EVERY POSITION THAT IS INVOLVED IN THIS STUDY. PSO IT I DON'T WANT COURT TO THINK I STOOD BACK AND DIDN'T DO ANYTHING DURING THIS TIME.

THERE IS CONSTANT COMMUNICATION. OVER 2,000 E-MAILS THAT HAVE BEEN GENERATED BETWEEN MYSELF AND MAG AND EVEN MORE SO BETWEEN DEPARTMENT HEADS AND THE PROCESS.

I THINK THE 150 DAY DAYS IS WHA PUT IN THE CONTRACT AND THEY

AGREED TO IT. >>JUDGE BECERRA: YOU ARE RIGHT.

THEY AGREED TO IT. SO THAT IS THE DEAL.

NOW WHAT YOU ARE SAYING IS IF I CAN RESTATE IT -- DID YOU WANT

TO SAY SOMETHING? >> I COULD WAIT.

>>JUDGE BECERRA: WANT TO RECAP WHERE WE ARE SO FAR, BUT YOU -- I WILL -- IF YOU WILL DISCLAIM THEY ARE THING.

I LEAN INTO THE COUNTY CLERK'S OFFICE AS ONE OF THE DEPARTMENTS, AS ONE OF THE ELECTED OFFICIALS TO HELP ME DECIPHER INFORMATION AND INTERPRET BECAUSE I DO LEAN IN AND ON OTHER ELECTED OFFICIALS FOR THEIR PERSPECTIVES AND THEIR OPINIONS. SO THE DAY I DID FEEL COMPLETELY REMOVED FROM ALL INFORMATION AS WELL.

AND THE DAY THAT I -- I RATE TO USE THIS WORD BUT THE BEST DESCRIPTION, THE DAY I PRESSURED FOR ANYTHING TO GET IN MY POSSESSION FROM OUR HR DEPARTMENT.

WHEN I FINALLY GOT IT, I WALKED STRAIGHT OVER TO OUR COUNTY CLERK'S OFFICE AND I SAID HERE, HELP ME REVIEW IT.

A LITTLE STACK OF INFORMATION AND HELP ME REVIEW IT NOT TO BE SHARED AND THAT WAS THE DIRECTION AND THAT WAS FOLLOWED.

HIGH REGARD FOR THE LEVEL OF DISCRETION AND RESPECT HAS NEVER BEEN COMPROMISED AND JEOPARDIZED AND I WILL CONTINUE TO HONOR AND RESPECT THAT RELATIONSHIP AMONG OT OTHERS. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IF DR.

CARDENAS WILL GIVE A FEW COMMENTS.

>> BEFORE SHE DOES SO, I WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS ON DECEMBER 6, I WAS ASKED -- WE WERE DOING AN UPDATE.

I WAS ASKED WHEN WOULD WE GET SOMETHING.

WE HAD NOT RECEIVED A PAY PLAN YET.

WE HAD NOT RECEIVED DATA TO THAT POINT.

THAT AFTERNOON AND LITERALLY, YOU WILL SEE IT IN MY E-MAILS, WE RECEIVED THAT OFFICIAL DRAFT PAY PLAN THAT HAD ELECTED OFFICIALS IN IT. WE KNOW THAT IS NOT RIGHT.

POSITIONS HIGHER LEVEL THAN THOSE THEY WERE SUPERVISED BY.

IT WAS AN INITIAL FIRST DRAFT. ON JANUARY 3, YOU ASKED FOR A COPY AND THAT IS WHAT I SENT YOU.

I GAVE JUDGE BECERRA YOUR COPY AT MY DESK AND I E-MAILED THEN ALL FIVE OF YOU THAT COPY. THAT WAS THE RAW DATA THAT I HAD. SINCE THEN, SUBSEQUENT TO THAT, THERE HAVE BEEN MANY CHARTS THAT WE HAVE RECEIVED.

AND IF I START E-MAILING ALL OF THOSE VARIATIONS, IT WILL COST THE COUNTY TO BE IN MAYHEM. IT WILL CAUSE THE RUMOR MILL TO BE EVEN WORSE THAN IT ALREADY IS.

SO UNTIL WE GET TO A DOCUMENT, A REPORT, AN ANALYSIS THAT MAG CAN GIVE US TO, WE ARE JUST THROWING PAPER AROUND THAT MEAN NOTHING.

THE FIRST IMPLEMENTATION CHART THAT MAG SENT WAS WAY MORE THAN WE HAD BUDGETED, $4.2 MILLION. AND TO SEND THAT OUT WOULDN'T BE RIGHT TO YOU, COURT, AS THE MANAGERS OF OOUR BUDGET TO PRESENT SOMETHING TO EVERYBODY THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE FUNDED.

SO IN DECEMBER, WHEN THAT INITIAL CHART CAME, I DID ASK FOR VICKI'S HELP, FOR SOMEONE THAT UNDERSTOOD THE BUDGET, UNDERSTOOD THE POSITIONS, HAD A GLOBAL VIEW OF THE ENTIRE COUNTY, DEPARTMENT. EACH DEPARTMENT WORKS ON THE COUNTY BUDGET. IF IT APPEARS SHE WAS THE COMMITTEE WITH ME, WE WERE TRYING TO GET TO A PLAN THAT WE COULD WORK WITH MAG ON AND PRESENT TO THE COURT.

>>JUDGE BECERRA: THANK YOU, MA'AM.

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>> YOU ARE WELCOME. >>JUDGE BECERRA: DR. CARDENAS.

AND NAFR SO YOU ALTHOUGH WHILE APPROACHING THE PODIUM, WE WILL

TAKE A TEN-MINUTE RECESS. >>DR. CARDENAS: I'M LANE CARDENAS, THE HAYS COUNTY COURT AND REFER TO MY ASSISTANT WHO AS MANY OF YOU KNOW HAVE A STRONG BACKGROUND IN HUMAN RESOURCES.

AS A COLONEL WAS INVOLVED WITH THE HR FOR THE ENTIRE ARMY OF TEXAS AND OTHER THINGS AND HAS DEGREES IN IT.

IN ANY CASE, WE WERE HAVING A LITTLE SIDE CONVERSATION THAT, YES, WE RECOGNIZE THERE WERE REASONS FOR THE DELAYS IN THE CONTRACT UP TO THE POINT, BUT THE NORMAL PROCEDURE WOULD HAVE BEEN TO GET A CONTRACT AMENDMENT.

AND THIS JUST HIGHLIGHTS SOME OF THE PROBLEMS IN COMMUNICATION THROUGHOUT. WHEN I RECEIVED THE MEMO THAT WAS CIRCULATED ON JANUARY 13 -- AND I HAVE SEEN THE EARLIER DOCUMENT AND I DID NOTICE THAT THERE ARE SOME IMPROVEMENTS AND DIRECTIONS IN IT, BUT WHEN I RECEIVED IT, I WAS ABSOLUTELY DEVASTATED. LIKE JUAN, THIS IS -- LIKE LON, THIS IS MY LIFE, A LARGE PART OF IT IS SERVING THE PUBLIC BUT THE MAJOR CONCERN IS MY STAFF. HOW ARE THEY DOING.

THEY HAVE BEEN DEVASTATED. THEY HAVE BEEN WATCHING FOR MONTHS. THEY HEARD IN EARLY SUMMER THERE WILL BE RESULTS WITHIN SIX WEEKS.

THEN BY OCTOBER 1, THEN BY CHRISTMAS, THEN BY JANUARY, AND SO WE REALLY THOUGHT ON THE 13TH WE WOULD BE GETTING SOMETHING.

AND ALONG CAME THIS, WHAT WOULD CHARACTERIZE AS A FLIPPANT MEMO SAYING THAT IT WAS -- HERE IS THE LONG-AWAITED REPORT.

AND IN FACT WHAT WAS THERE WAS JUST A WAGE TABLE WITHOUT ANY ACCOMPANYING INFORMATION ABOUT HOW TO READ OR INTERPRET IT, WHERE MY PEOPLE FELL IN IT, HOW I COULD FIND THEM.

AND THAT IS ALSO ONLY A PORTION OF WHAT IS NEEDED IN A STUDY OF THIS TYPE. THERE IS MUCH MORE TO A COMPENSATION SYSTEM THAT ALL OF US HAVE DISCUSSED BEFORE.

HOW YOU CAN NEGOTIATE SALARIES. HOW YOU CAN GIVE RAISES TO RECOGNIZE KNEES PERFORMANCE. AND ANY OTHER NUMBER OF CONSIDERATIONS GO INTO THIS SORT OF THING.

AND THERE THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING HERE AND HONESTLY HAVE BEEN NO EVIDENCE THAT THERE WAS REALLY WORK GOING ON IN THE WHOLE STUDY. SO I WAS DEVASTATED THAT WE COULDN'T GO TO OUR STAFF WHO HAVE BEEN WAITING AND HANGING ON BY THE FINGERTIPS TO THEIR JOBS SAYING THEY WERE GETTING OFFERS, THEY WERE LOOKING, THEY ARE SEEING THINGS, THEY WERE HAVING TROUBLE. THEY WERE STRUGGLING.

SHOWS THE CALLUS INDIFFERENCE TO THE LIVES OF THESE PEOPLE.

MY PEOPLE EVEN AFTER THIS STUDY AT THE BOTTOM OF THE HEAP IN THE COUNTY AND THEY DO SUCH AN IMPORTANT JOB OF THE COUNTY, GENERATING REVENUE FOR THE COUNTY, HANDLING TENS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN OUR OFFICE, DIFFUSING ANGRY PEOPLE THAT COME IN, AND ANY NUMBER OF THINGS WE DID PUT IN OUR PROFILES THAT ARE NOT REFLECTED. THEY ARE DOWN THERE AT THE BOTTOM OF THE HEAP GETTING THESE WAY LOW SALARIES.

WE MADE A COUPLE OF RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WE CIRCULATED IN MEMOS TO THE ENTIRE COMMISSIONERS COURT.

AND I HAVE REFINED THOSE SOME NOW THAT I LEARNED MORE WHAT HAS GONE ON, BUT WE FEEL THIS KIND OF THING SHOULD BE DONE BY A COMMITTEE THAT IS INDEPENDENT FROM HR, BECAUSE THAT IS THE OFFICE THAT IS BEING SCRUTINIZED AND THEY ARE USED TO A CERTAIN WAY OF DOING THINGS. NOT ANY REFLECTION ON OUR HR DIRECT REMEMBER, JUST THE WAY WE THINK BUSINESS SHOULD BE DONE.

WE FEEL THAT TOO MUCH TIME HAS GONE BY TO ALLOW TOO MUCH OF THIS TO CONTINUE. FROM WHAT I HEAR TODAY, I FEEL MORE CERTAIN THAT THIS IS MONTHS AWAY.

I AM REALLY, REALLY CONCERNED ABOUT THIS AND DOING SOMETHING FOR OUR STAFF TO HELP THEM, BUT ALSO TO KEEP THEM.

WE IS IT NOT GET ANY SORTS OF BONUSES FOR RETENTION IN MY OFFICE. SO THIS IS A REAL CRISIS AS I SEE IT. AND WE WOULD SEE PUTTING REPRESENTING THE DEPARTMENT HEADS, ELECTED OFFICIALS AND MAYBE BRINGING IN AN OUTSIDE IF A SIM TATER TO OVERSEE IT, SEE -- FACILITATOR TO OVERSEE IT AND WORK WITH MAG.

THIS CAN BE DONE AND WE KNOW HOW TO DO IT AND PUT EVERYBODY IN AND ENGAGE THE ENTIRE GROUP OF ELECTED OFFICIALS AND DEPARTMENT HEADS IN THE PROCESS WHICH I DON'T THINK HAS BEEN DONE B BEFORE. SO WE ARE RECOMMENDING THAT ACTION. AND I THINK THE OTHER PART THAT WE ARE HOPING FOR IS THAT SOME RELIEF CAN BE GIVEN IMMEDIATELY.

I GET IT. IT LOOKS LIKE WE ARE GETTING CLOSE. BUT WE REALLY AREN'T.

I DON'T THINK WE ARE CLOSE AT ALL TO A DECISION ON THIS OR

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READINESS TO IMPLEMENT. I THINK IT WILL BE MORE MONTHS AND THE STAFF HAS BEEN WAITING. NOTHING LAST YEAR.

NOT EVEN A COST OF LIVING OF 2% OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

WE DID GIVE A LITTLE BONUS, I REMEMBER, WHAT WAS IT, $500 OR SOMETHING FOR MY PEOPLE. SO WE ARE REALLY REQUESTING -- THIS IS ANOTHER AGENDA ITEMS, BUT WE ARE REQUESTING AND RECOMMENDING THAT YOU TAKE SOME ACTION TO GIVE IMMEDIATE RELIEF TO THE EMPLOYEES OF THIS COUNTY. WE RECOMMEND A 10% FOR EVERYONE WHO HAVEN'T ALREADY BEEN COMPENSATED THROUGH THOSE MEASURE UNDER $100,000 OR PEOPLE WHO AREN'T IN THE COLLECTIVE BARGAINING PROGRAM OR WHATEVER. WE BELIEVE THAT SOMETHING HAS TO BE DONE FOR OUR EMPLOYEES HANGING IN THERE, DOING THEIR JOBS, BEING LOYAL TO THE COUNTY AND DOING THEIR VERY BEST AND STRUGGLING. SOME OF THEM ARE GOING TO THE FOOD BANKS TO GET FOOD. ER IN NOT GOING ANYWHERE ON THE WEEKENDS WITH THEIR FAMILY BECAUSE THEY CAN'T AFFORD GAS.

THEY ARE DOUBLING UP. HAVING TROUBLE TO PAYING THE RENT FOR CRYING OUT LOUD AND MOVING IN WITH THEIR PARENTS.

THE CALLUS INDIFFERENCE OF PEOPLE IN THEIR LIVES AND WHAT IT MEANS TO BE ON THE LOW END OF PAY IN THIS WORLD.

IT REALLY CONCERNS ME AND I AM REALLY HOPING WE CAN DO

SOMETHING TO CARE FOR THEM. >>JUDGE BECERRA: DR. CARDENAS, I WANT TO ASK IF -- IF OUR RETIRED ARMY COLONEL RUNNING HR FOR THE STATE WOULD LIKE TO CONTRIBUTE TO WHAT YOU SAID? I DON'T KNOW IF IT HAS BEEN COVERED OR NOT.

>> I AM SURE SHE DOES. >> JUDGE, BEFORE WE GET HERE, I WANT TO SAY I AGREE WITH MOST EVERYTHING THAT THE CLERK SAID.

YOU HAD ME RIGHT UP UNTIL THE END.

AND I THINK THAT THE -- THE STATEMENTS FROM EVERY MEMBER OF THIS COURT, I WOULD SEVERELY DISAGREE WITH CALLUS

INDIFFERENCE. >> NOT THE COURT COURT.

CORRECT THAT. I DID NOT MEAN THE COURT.

>> OUR EMPLOYEES ARE THE LIFEBLOOD OF OUR COUNTY AND EVERY ONE OF THEM WILL TELL YOU IN INDIVIDUAL CONVERSATIONS WITH MEMBERS OF THIS COURT, THAT WE WORK VERY HARD TO TRY TO

MAINTAIN THAT LIFEBLOOD. >>JUDGE BECERRA: PERFECT.

THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER SMITH, JUST TO CLARIFY.

I WILL SPEAK IT UP. DR. CARDENAS SAID THAT THE CALLOUSNESS WAS NOT DIRECTED TO THE COURT.

>>DR. CARDENAS: IT IS WHAT I PERCEIVED IN THE MEMO THAT WENT

ALONG WITH THE -- >>COMMISSIONER SMITH: GOTCHA.

THANK YOU, MA'AM. >>JUDGE BECERRA: STATE YOUR NAME

AND TITLE. >> GOOD MORNING, CYN CYNTHIA MALANZY, THE I HAVE A ASSISTANT COUNTY CLERK.

I GUESS I JUST WANT TO START BY SAYING, WE ARE ALL PASSIONATE.

WE ARE ALL PASSIONATE ABOUT TAKING CARE OF THE EMPLOYEES.

WE ARE ON THE GROUND EVERY DAY WITH THEM, HEARING THEIR CONCERNS, WORKING WITH THEM, AND TRYING TO KEEP THE MORALE UP.

EVERY DAY, THEY WILL ASK IS IT ON THE AGENDA.

AND THEY ARE LOOKING IT ON THE AGENDAS.

IS IT ON THE AGENDA? WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN? WE ARE DOING OUR VERY BEST TO MOTIVATE THEM AND KEEP THEM HANGING ON AND SAYING WE HAVE GOOD LEADERSHIP.

THEY ARE GOING TO MAKE THE DECISIONS.

THE ISSUE I HAVE WITH WHAT HAS TRANSPIRED WITH THIS BESIDES THE CONTRACT AND US NOT FOLLOWING THE DELIVERABLE GUIDELINES OR HOLDING THE CONTRACTOR ACCOUNTABLE TO THOSE WHEN WE GET A REPORT, THERE IS STILL MORE WORK TO BE DONE.

THE ANALYSIS ON THE COST OF THE REPORT, WHAT GOING TO COME TO THE COURT TO MAKE DECISIONS ON. WHAT WE RECEIVED AS LEADERSHIP.

WHEN I SAY "LEADERSHIP" THE DIRECTORS, THE ELECTED OFFICIALS RUNNING OFFICES AND THEIR DEPUTIES.

WE ARE GETTING THE DOCUMENTS TO REVIEW.

JANUARY 14, WE RECEIVED A DOCUMENT THAT SAID HERE IS THE MUCH-AWAITED STUDY AND IT WAS A PAY PLAN WITH NO INFORMATION FOR US TO DISSECT IT REALLY OTHER THAN TO COMPARE IT TO OUR CURRENT PAY PLAN. THAT IS NOT PRUDENT FOR LEADERS TO MAKE DECISIONS WITH. SO WE NEED THE DATA FROM THE REPORT. THE ANALYSIS.

TODAY IS THE FIRST DAY WE HAVE SEEN SOME NUMBERS ON WHERE THEY THINK THEY ARE. AND WHEN WE MADE A RECOMMENDATION AND I WAS PART OF MAKING THE RECOMMENDATION WITH ELAINE WITH A 10% COST OF LIVING INCREASE.

WE SEE AT THE LOWEST END, 10% IS BELOW THE MARKET VALUE, AND SO WE WERE LOOKING TO BRING YOU SOLUTIONS WITHOUT A LOT OF INFORMATION AS WELL. SO -- SO I WOULD LIKE TO CONCLUDE BY SAYING, WE NEED THE DATA.

WE NEED THE DATA. YOU NEED THE DATA TO MAKE GOOD DECISIONS. WE NEED THE CONTRACTOR TO FOLLOW THROUGH ON THEIR CONTRACT. AND WE NEED TO HOLD THEM ACCOUNTABLE WHAT THEY SAID THEY WOULD DELIVER TO US.

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AGAIN, WE ARE PASSIONATE. WE ARE ALL PASSIONATE ABOUT TAKING CARE OF THE EMPLOYEES. AND I THINK THAT COMES ACROSS.

AND WE ARE ALL WORKING TO GET, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING TO HAPPEN.

SO I WOULD ALSO SAY, DON'T TAKE ANYTHING PERSONALLY.

IT IS A PASSION TO DRIVE FORWARD, TO TAKE CARE OF OUR EMPLOYEES. I AGREE THAT OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS AND OUR DEPARTMENT HEADS AND THEIR DEPUTIES, AS THE COLLECTIVE LEADERSHIP TO ADVISE YOU, WHO ULTIMATELY MAKE THE DECISIONS, YOU HAVE A VERY VITAL BRAIN TRUST OF SMART FOLKS LEADING THE COUNTY OPERATIONS THAT CAN GET THIS DATA, PUT IT TOGETHER AND MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT COINCIDE WITH WHATEVER THE CONTRACTOR BRINGS US.

IF THEY DON'T BRING US ANYTHING BY A TIMELINE THAT YOU HAVE SAID, HEY, WE NEED IT COME REPORT.

LET US DO IT. WE ARE SMART ENOUGH TO DO IT.

WE CAN GET IT DONE. WE WILL BRING YOU THREE SOURCES OF ACTIONS WITH A RECOMMENDED COURSE OF ACTION AND YOU CAN LOOK AT ALL OF THAT DATA. WE ARE PASSIONATE.

SOMETHING NEEDS TO BE DONE. WE NEED TO HOLD THE CONTRACTOR ACCOUNTABLE AND ANYTHING WE CAN DO FOR OUR EMPLOYEES RIGHT NOW.

RIGHT NOW WOULD BE IMPORTANT. I BUILT A BUDGET THAT GOT APPROVED WITH SOME INCREASES. THAT MONEY IS JUST SITTING THERE. IT IS SIT THERE AND HOLDING.

I CAN'T GET IT IN THE EMPLOYEES' HANDS PAUSE WE ARE WAITING FOR THIS STUDY. MONEY THAT IS SITTING BY THE LOSS OF ALL OF OUR POSITIONS, SALARY SAVINGS.

I MEAN, I THINK I CAN SOLVE, COME UP WITH A NUMBER AND COME UP WITH MONEY INTO EMPLOYEES' HANDS AS AS COST OF LIVING SOARS AND WE CONTINUE TO WORK THROUGH THE IMPORTANT WORK OF GETTING A TRUE COMPENSATION PLAN THAT COVERS ALL OF THE AREAS OF DEFICIENCY THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT 37 JUST NOT THE PAY, THE WHOLE PLAN. THAT'S WHAT I HAVE TO SAY.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. >>COMMISSIONER INGALSBE: ONE QUICK QUESTION BECAUSE I KNOW WE WANT TO TAKE A BREAK, JUDGE.

BUT I AGREE. THERE WAS A COMMENT THAT EVERY ELECTED DEPARTMENT HEAD NEEDS TO BE INVOLVED.

THAT IS WHAT WE DIRECT, RIGHT. THE INFORMATION AND DISCUSSION BETWEEN EVERYONE AND HOW LONG WILL THIS TAKE? BECAUSE WE ARE SAYING WE WANT TO GET IT DONE QUICKLY.

THE TIMELINE FROM MAG, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT IS.

WHAT ARE YOU ANTICIPATE GOING WE CAN GET EVERYBODY TOGETHER AND YOU KNOW HOW SCHEDULES ARE. HOW LONG IS THIS GOING TO TAKE? BECAUSE WE WANT TO GET SOMETHING DONE QUICKLY.

I KNOW THERE MAY BE SOME ACTION POSSIBLY THAT WE MAY CONSIDER.

HOW LONG -- IS 30 DAYS ENOUGH TIME GET EVERYBODY TOGETHER.

TO GET US SOME RECOMMENDATIONS INCLUDING THE INFORMATION THAT WE GOT FROM MAG. WHAT REWE LOOKING AT? WHAT DO Y'ALL ANTICIPATE. I KNOW THAT IS HARD TO SAY

COMING FROM JUST TWO FOLKS. >> I THINK WE LOOKED AT IT AND WE THOUGHT THEY -- WE LOOKED AT IT AND WE THOUGHT WE COULD DO IT WITHIN 30 DAYS. PRETTY CONFIDENT OF THAT.

>>COMMISSIONER INGALSBE: 30 DAY IS AN AMBITIOUS SCHEDULE THAT REQUIRES THE COMMITMENT AND DEDICATION OF EVERYONE, BUT IN THE LACK OF KNOWING THAT WE WILL BE ASKED TO, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE HAVE -- ARE BUILDING THEIR SCHEDULES.

SO I THINK IN FAIRNESS, YOU KNOW, COMMUNICATION BACK AND FORTH, I AM FOLLOWING ADJUST MY SCHEDULE BECAUSE OF THE HIGH DEGREE OF IMPORTANCE TO DO THAT. I THINK 60 DAYS WILL BE THE MOST REASONABLE BUT 30 DAY IT IS COULD BE DONE.

>>JUDGE BECERRA: THE QUESTION AND THE ANSWER.

ARE THEY TIED TO BRINGING THIS TO THE MOST COMPLETE AND FRUITFUL CLOSE. NOT RESTARTING ANYTHING, AM I

RIGHT? >> THAT'S CORRECT.

>>JUDGE BECERRA: I WANT TO UNDERSTAND THE CONVERSATION FOR THE VIEWING PUBLIC. I WANT TO ASK THE QUESTIONS THAT

I BELIEVE TO BE INTERPRETED. >> TO REITERATE WHAT YOU SAID --

>>COMMISSIONER INGALSBE: I AM, JUDGE.

THAT IS MY CONCERN. AS MENTIONED AGAIN, WE NEED MEANINGFUL NEEDED CHANGES, RIGHT.

WE WANT TO ENSURE THAT WE ARE DOING IT FOR THE LONG HAUL.

NOT JUST TRYING TO BAND-AID AS MANY PEOPLE HAVE SAID BEFORE.

SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WHATEVER WE DO, THAT WE HAVE A PLAN MOVING FORWARD. AND ABLE TO ADDRESS OUR NEEDS

AND THE NEEDS OF OUR EMPLOYEES. >>JUDGE BECERRA: BEAUTIFUL.

COMMISSIONER? >>COMMISSIONER SMITH: I WOULD SAY I AGREE WITH COMMISSIONER SHELL, TO GET ALL OF THE

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DEPARTMENT HEADS AND ELECTED OFFICIALS TOGETHER.

AS PASSIONATE AS ALL OF US ARE. I UNDERSTAND SCHEDULES.

THE JUDGES ARE A SEPARATE ENTITY OF THEMSELVES.

WE CAN'T CONTROL COURT SCHEDULES OR THAT KIND OF THING.

AT THE END OF THE DAY WE AS A COURT SAY TWO WEEKS FROM TODAY, ALL OF OUR DEPARTMENT HEADS AND ELECTED OFFICIALS -- COLLEAGUES OF ELECTED OFFICIALS WILL HOPE AND ATTEND A MEETING THAT SUCH AS COMMISSIONER SHELL PROPOSED, I WOULD ANTICIPATE THAT THEY WOULD DO IT. MINE, IT IS GOING TO TAKE DIRECTION FROM THE COURT BUT I SEE DEPARTMENT HEADS, ALL OF THEM NODDING RIGHT NOW. I THINK THEY HAVE A PASSION FOR OUR EMPLOYEES. AND IF THAT IS WHAT IS NEED, I WILL BE MORE THAN FOLLOWING RECOMMEND THAT.

>>JUDGE BECERRA: COMMISSIONER COHEN.

>>COMMISISONER COHEN: JUST SO I AM CLEAR.

WHAT YOUR OFFICE IS PROPOSING TO DO IS TO NOW WORK WITH THE HR

DEPARTMENT? >> NO, WITH THE CONTRACTOR.

AND PUTTING TOGETHER A TEAM, NOT US, BUT PUTTING TOGETHER A TEAM, WHOEVER IS ON IT. I THINK CYNTHIA WILL BE EXCELLENT. WHOEVER WE PUT ON A TEAM, EIGHT TO TEN PEOPLE, TAKE WHAT HAS BEEN DONE, GATHER A REPORT AND MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE COURT VERY QUICKLY OF ONE OR MORE POSSIBLE COURSES OF ACTION AND ENGAGE ALL THE OTHER DEPARTMENT HEADS AND ELECTED PEOPLE IN THAT PROCESS.

HR WILL BE AVAILABLE AS A RE RESOURCE, BUT I THINK THAT WILL BE DONE INDEPENDENTLY AS BEST.

AND WE THOUGHT IT WOULD BE TO BRING SOMEBODY FROM THE HR DEPARTMENT AND THE -- TO COME AND FACILITATE THE GROUP TO AVOID ANY PERCEPTION OF BIAS AND MAKE SURE THAT THINGS KEEP MOVING AND WE ARE MOVING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.

REPRESENTATIVES OF DIFFERENT SECTORS.

>> MARISOL, DO -- DOES THE CONTRACT ITSELF NEED TO BE AMENDED BY THE -- BY THIS ACTION AT ALL?

>> I WILL LET MARK KENNEDY DISCUSS.

>> SO THE -- THE -- DISCUSSED THE EXPIRATION DATE, THE TERM OF THE CONTRACT THAT WE DISCUSSED. NORMALLY A COMPANY WHEN IT SEES THAT ITS TIMELINE TO FOR DELIVERABLES ARE EXPIRING WILL COME AND ASK FOR AN EXTENSION. I DON'T KNOW WHY IN THIS CASE THAT MAG HAS NOT. I EXPECT IF IT IS BROUGHT UP TO THEM THEY WILL ASK FOR THAT AND OPERATING AT RISK WITHOUT IT, SO THAT IS ONE PART THIS I EXPECT THEY WILL WANT TO AMEND.

IF WE HAVE THE CONTRACT OPEN FOR AMENDMENT, OTHER PARTS CAN BE AMENDED INCLUDING TO WHOM MAG IS REPORTING WHICH I REFERENCED IN SECTION TWO EARLIER. SECTION TWO IN THESE PROFESSIONAL SERVICES AGREEMENTS, GENERALLY REFER TO A DEPARTMENT HEAD OR ELECTED OFFICIAL AND MY OFFICE.

THAT IS HOW SECTION 2 CURRENTLY READS WITH HR DIRECTOR AND MY

OFFICE. >> I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYTHING IS CAPTURED. AND THAT WE HAVE HISTORICAL INFORMATION ABOUT WHAT WE ARE DOING WITH THIS CONTRACT.

JUST BECAUSE OF WHAT ALL HAS HAPPENED WITH THIS CONTRACT.

SO, YOU KNOW, JUST -- YOUR OFFICE SPECIFICALLY HOW WE INCORPORATE THAT INTO THIS DISCUSSION.

>> WHATEVER IS FAIR. >>COMMISISONER COHEN: THAT IS IT

MY ONLY CONCERN. >> HE THOUGHT THERE SHOULD BE A REPORT IN PERSON TO THE COURT COURT WITH WHAT THEIR FINDINGS AND RECOMMENDATIONS WERE. IT HAVEN'T HAPPENED.

>>COMMISSIONER INGALSBE: THE OTHER THING, JUDGE, WITH COMPENSATION, I AM HOPING THAT WE ARE NOT HAVING TO PUT ANY ADDITIONAL FUNDS, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE STILL NOT RECEIVED THE INFORMATION THAT THEY PROMISED WITHIN THE TIMELINE.

AND SO I MEAN, I GUESS THAT IS SOMETHING TO BE DISCUSSED BUT CERTAINLY SOMETHING THAT I WOULD PUSH VERY HARD ON.

>>JUDGE BECERRA: I BELIEVE THEY HAVE BEEN PAID MOST OF THEIR

CONTRACT AS WELL. >> THAT IS MY QUESTION, HOW MUCH OF THAT CONTRACT HAS ALREADY BEEN PAID?

>>JUDGE BECERRA: MR. KENNEDY OR MARISOL, CAN YOU ANSWER THAT.

THE LION'S SHARE -- >> WE PAID THREE PAYMENTS OF

>>JUDGE BECERRA: ALMOST HALF. >> ABOUT HALF OF IT.

>>JUDGE BECERRA: A BETTER HOLD THAN I ANTICIPATED.

AND SO I HEAR AS A SUMMARY POTENTIAL, WE SUPPORT -- I -- I SHOULD STATE, I SUPPORT WHAT COMMISSIONER SHELL AND COMMISSIONER SMITH REITERATED SUPPORT FOR, WHICH IS PUTTING PEOPLE TOGETHER. I DO.

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EVERYONE TOGETHER AT ONE POINT IN TIME.

I AGREE THERE IS A PLACE THAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN.

ABSOLUTELY, BUT I ALSO SUPPORT THE IDEA OF -- I DON'T UNDERSTAND AND I AM NOT GOING TO GET INTO MICROMANAGING DEPARTMENTS. THAT IS NOT MY STYLE.

THAT IS NOT MY ROLE. THAT IS NOT MY RESPONSIBILITY.

WE JUST LEAVE THE DEPARTMENT HEADS TO EXECUTE IN THE USEFUL MANNER AND WHEN AND IF, THAT IS WHEN WE GET TAPPED.

I BELIEVE WE ARE IN A POSITION WHERE WE SHOULD CONSIDER A PIVOT IN THE COMPLETION OF THIS. AND IF THE DISTRICT COUNTY CLERK IS INTERESTED WITH -- I AM SORE REEF, BUT MISS MALANZI.

I AM SO IN AWE WITH YOUR WILLINGNESS AND BACKGROUND.

RETIRED KIRM RUNNING THE ARMY'S HR FOR THE STATE OF TEXAS. IF THAT SKILL SET IS WILLING TO STEP IN AND HELP BRING THIS TO A REASONABLE AND COMPLETE CLOSE IN THE MOST TRANSPARENT MANNER, I SUPPORT THAT WHOLEHEARTEDLY, BECAUSE I THINK IT WILL BE A FRESH OF FRESH AIR FOR SHERRY NOT TO HAVE IT ALL ON HER PLATE IN MY OPINION.

THAT A GOOD, QUICK EXECUTION. BUT STILL LEFT WITH, AS WE WERE JUST TOLD, 30, 60 DAYS OUT, AND PEOPLE ARE -- WHAT ARE THEY PAYING, A DOLLAR AN EGG? SORRY -- HOW MANY --

>> $.50 AN EGG RIGHT NOW. >>JUDGE BECERRA: $.50 AN EGG.

WE HAVE CHICKENS. I HAVE HENS AND I DON'T BUY EGGS. HONESTLY WE KNOW THIS AND THE COURT IS SENSITIVE TO IT ALL. I BELIEVE WE NEED TO STOP EMOTIONAL HEARTACHE GOING ON AND THE TRAUMA ON FOLKS.

AND CONSIDER -- AS A COURT, CONSIDER THAT THE COUNTY CLERK'S OFFICE RECOMMENDATION AND SUGGESTION TO BRING THIS TO A COMPLETE HOLISTIC CLOSE. I JUST WANT TO TELL THE CONTRACTOR TO GET THE INFORMATION TO US.

COME DOWN HERE AND EXPLAIN THAT TO EVERYBODY IN ONE GROUP SO WE CAN MOVE FORWARD. I THINK -- I DON'T THINK THAT IS MUCH TO ASK. WE PAID HALF OF IT, GET THEM DOWN HERE. GET TO THE -- I HAVE A FEELING OUR DEPARTMENT ELECTED OFFICIALS WILL MAKE THE TIME.

>>JUDGE BECERRA: YES, I AGREE. >> HAS TO BE AT LUNCH.

>>JUDGE BECERRA: 7 P.M. >> IF IT HAS TO BE ON SATURDAY.

>> WHATEVER THE CASE IS. DEPARTMENT HEADS AND ELECTED OFFICIALS ARE FOLLOWING DO WHATEVER THEY CAN.

LET'S JUST TELL THE CONTRACTOR WHEN WE ARE DOING IT.

AND EXPECT THAT THEY COME DOWN AND 3RE7B9 THE DATA THEY HAVE.

IF WE PIVOT AT THAT POINT INTERNALLY BECAUSE OF THE FEEDBACK WE HAVE WITHIN OUR OFFICES AND WHAT THEY SEE, WE WILL REACT SWIFTLY AT THAT TIME. BUT, I MEAN, I TCOMMISSIONER INGALSBE WE SHOULD BRING THEM DOWN.

>>JUDGE BECERRA: COMMISSIONERS, A LITTLE CONSENSUS CONVERSATION HERE. WHICH WAY DO YOU FEEL THAT WILL BE A TRAJECTORY FROM THIS POINT BOARD?

>>COMMISSIONER INGALSBE: I WOULD LIKE TO GET THOSE CONTRACTORS -- CAN THEY COME THIS WEEK OR EARLY NEXT WEEK.

I MEAN, WE -- I MEAN, I -- >>COMMISSIONER INGALSBE: I THINK WE NEED TO TELL THEM THAT THEY NEED TO BE HERE.

>> THE E-MAIL FROM THE LAST HOUR.

>>COMMISSIONER INGALSBE: I CAN'T IMAGINE THY ARE NOT WATCHING

OUR CONVERSATION. >>JUDGE BECERRA: DESPERATION IS THICK. AND I KNOW WE ALL FEEL IT.

>> ALEX REACHED OUT TO THEM, AND INVOLVED IN THE COMMUNICATION.

>>JUDGE BECERRA: HAVE YOU RECEIVED ANY LATEST UPDATE?

>> NO, THEY GAVE THE SAME INFORMATION.

>>JUDGE BECERRA: NO UPDATE IS WHAT WAS SAID OFF CAMERA.

>>COMMISSIONER INGALSBE: I MEAN CAN WE START THINKING OF WHO IT

IS THAT WE MAY GET TOGETHER -- >> GET A MEETING SCHEDULE WITH THE DEPARTMENT HEADS AND ELECTED OFFICIALS RIGHT NOW.

TAKE WHAT THEY HAVE. IF THEY DON'T SHOW UP, THEY DON'T SHOW UP AND MOVE FORWARD INTERNALLY AND WHAT THEY PRESENTED US. LET'S GO AHEAD AND GET SOMETHING SET UP AND THE BEST WAY TO GET IT -- THEY CAN PARTICIPATE IF THEY WOULD LIKE. IF THEY CHOOSE NOT TOO --

>>JUDGE BECERRA: NOT AN ACTION ACTION ITEM BUT A DISCUSSION ITEM. WE ARE DISCUSSING THE IDEA OF PUTTING THOSE PEOPLE INTERESTED IN HELPING AND PUTTING THE DEPARTMENT HEADS TOGETHER IN THE MOST CONCISE WINDOW OF TIME THIS WEEK TO COME TOGETHER, REVIEW THE CONTENT, GET THOSE GUYS DOWN HERE AND BRING THIS THING TO A CLOSE.

IF YOU NEED, I WILL CALL A SPECIAL MEETING AND DO IT ON TUESDAY. PEE OR GET OFF THE POT IS THE CLAE LAY THAT PEOPLE LIKE TO USE.

>>COMMISSIONER INGALSBE: GETTING EVERYBODY TOGETHER.

YOU WILL HAVE VOLUNTEERS WHO WANT TO SERVE ON THAT COMMUNITY

THAT YOU ARE TRYING TO FORM. >>JUDGE BECERRA: I ENCOURAGE A COMMITTEE FORMATION LIKE DR. CARDENAS.

I HAVE HIGH HOPE AND HIGH FAITH WITH DR. CARDENAS'S FORTE AND RESUME AND SKILL SETS AND HER TEAMS.

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SO I HAVE A REAL HIGH HOPE THAT WE ENCOURAGE THE FORMATION OF A COMMITTEE TO BRING IT ALL TO A CLOSE.

MAKES MOST EFFICIENT SET. >> WE MAKE A COMMITTEE FOR EVERYBODY. I KNOW I TOWN LIKE A BROKEN RECORD. LET HR FACILITATE.

THEY HAVE HISTORICAL KNOWLEDGE WHY SOMEONE IS THIS AND HR STAFF CAN LOOK IT UP AND A CONVERSATION.

>>JUDGE BECERRA: SOMETHING TO KEEP MOVING IS THE AIM.

KEEP MOVING. THANK YOU FOR THE DISCUSSION.

LAST COMMENT OVER HERE. IF YOU WILL APPROACH THE PODIUM.

>> DAPHNE TENORIO, HAYS COUNTY TREASURER.

>> I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THAT THE FACILITATION WILL INCLUDE THE TREASURER'S OFFICE BECAUSE WE WILL BE PULLING THE REPORTS TO GET THE INFORMATION AN DATA THAT IS NECESSARY.

AS SHERRY MENTIONED ALL OF THE DATA AND REPORT DID COME FROM

[Item K.13. Discussion and possible action to increase by 10% the pay of all employees in Hays County whose salary is under $100,000 and who are not bound by the Collective Bargaining Agreement effective February 1, 2023. B E C E R R A (Part 1 of 2)]

THE THEME OF THE CONVE CONVERSATION K-13.

>>DR. CARDENAS: K-13, DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO INCREASE BY 10% THE PAY OF ALL EMPLOYEES IN HAYS COUNTY WHOSE SALARY IS UNDER $1,000 AND NOT BOUND BY THE COLLECTIVE BARGAINING

AGREEMENT FEBRUARY 1, 2023. >>COMMISISONER COHEN: SO MOVED.

>>JUDGE BECERRA: SECONDS. NOW THAT WE67 A MOTION AND A SECOND, WE CAN HAVE A DISCUSSION.

IT IS MY OPINION THAT BASED ON JUST HANDED TO US A SHORT WHILE AGO ON A PREVIOUS AGENDA ITEM. WE HAVE BEEN TOLD BY CREDENTIAL PROFESSIONALS THAT WE ARE SITTING AT A MINIMUM AS FAR AS THEIR CONCERNED OF 11.08% BELOW THE AVERAGE IN PAY.

AND I KNOW WE HAVE AS MISS M ARRANGESLANZI HAS STATED A VERY PASSIONATE GROUP OF FOLKS NOT ONLY ON THE COURT BUT DEPARTMENT HEADS THAT URGENTLY ARE TRYING TO ADDRESS THE ACHE AND PAIN WHAT IS GOING ON OF ALL LEVELS OF OUR FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AND OUR COUNTRY. AND SO -- BUT STILL, A WATCHED POT NEVER BOILS. SO WE ARE SITTING HERE WITH -- AMONG THE MOST PASSIONATE SAYING WE ARE 30, 60 DAYS OFF, ALL HANDS ON DECK EFFORT. WE KEEP -- I KNOW IT IS NOT ON PURPOSE, BUT WE KEEP DELAYING. WE KEEP DELAYING.

WE KEEP DELAYING. WE DO HAVE A LOT OF NEW ELECTED OFFICIALS. WE DO HAVE DEPARTMENT HEADS STRUGGLING IN DIFFERENT COMPONENTS AND CAPACITIES AND AS COMMISSIONER SMITH -- WE HELPED TRANSPORTATION, THANK YOU FOR ALL YOU HAVE DONE. HELPED JERRY AND ALL THE DEPARTMENTS IN STOPPING THE DISRUPTIONS OF STAFFING BECAUSE OF PAY IN THEIR DERPTS. AND I BELIEVE THE INTENT AND SPIRIT BEHIND THIS AGENDA ITEM WAS TO BUY MORE TIME FOR THOSE AS DR. COHEN HAS ILLUSTRATED AT THE PODIUM HANGING ON BY THE TIP OF THEIR FINGERS PAYCHECK TO PAYCHECK LIVING THE DESPERATION AND HONESTLY, ALL THE VARIABLES THAT ARE NOT FAVOR TO OUR CO-WORKERS. KNOWING TO BE DONE RIGHT SO WE DON'T HAVE TO KEEP VISITING THIS.

TO BE THE MOST COMPLETE AND MOST COMPREHENSIVE, THE 11.08% IS A BARE FLOOR THAT WE ARE BEHIND ON AS ONE PROFESSIONAL ASSESSMENT HAS MADE. I FEEL THAT US GOING TO A 10% IS JUST -- JUST TO PLEASE -- WE ARE WORKING ON IT BUT WE NEED A LITTLE MORE TIME, EFFORT GESTURE.

THAT IS THE AIM AND THAT IS THE INTENT.

COMMISSIONER INGALSBE. >>COMMISSIONER INGALSBE: JUDGE, THANK YOU. AND LET ME JUST SAY, FIRST OF ALL, THAT, YOU KNOW, I AGREE WITH ALL THE DISCUSSION THAT HAS BEEN HAD REGARDING OUR EMPLOYEES AND THEM BEING THE BACKBONE TO OUR ORGANIZATION. EXTREMELY IMPORTANT.

I THINK WE HAVE TRIED THROUGHOUT THE YEARS EXTREMELY HARD TO TRY TO ADDRESS OUR SALARIES. UNFORTUNATELY WITH COVID HITTING AND EVERYTHING THAT HAS JUST HAPPENED BECAUSE OF THAT, IT JUST SEEMS WE ARE EVEN A WORSE POSITION THAN WE HAVE BEEN IN PREVIOUS YEARS. I KNOW WE ARE EXTREMELY CLOSE TO GETTING ALL THIS DONE AND I WANT TO SAY THAT I APPRECIATE DR.

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CARDENAS AND CYNTHIA FOR STEPPING UP AND WANTING TO GET THIS DONE. I THINK IT IS GOING TO BE IMPORTANT THAT WE GATHER ALL THE INFORMATION FROM MAG, BUT THE INPUT FROM ALL OF OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS AND DEPARTMENT HEADS BECAUSE THEY KNOW THEIR EMPLOYEES BEST.

THEY KNOW THE SITUATIONS THAT THEY ARE IN.

AND I THINK IT IS GOING TO BE IMPORTANT TO HAVE THEIR INPUT.

AND I WILL SAY THAT I HAD SPOKEN TO VICKI DORSETT LAST NEAT -- OR THIS MORNING, I GUESS, BRIEFLY WHILE SHE WAS TRYING TO GET TO WORK AND JUST ASKED HER IF SHE COULD COME UP WITH ANY KIND OF SCENARIOS. I KNOW THAT WE HAVE A CERTAIN OR WOULD LIKE TO. D TO ABIDE BY- AND -- BUT JUST ASKED IF SHE WOULD COME UP WITH SCENARIOS. I KNOW THAT I CAN CERTAINLY TRY TO EXPLAIN WHAT -- YOU KNOW, WHAT SHE HAS COME UP WITH, BUT I THINK IT IS BEST THAT SHE IS LEER AND CAN DO IT.

SHE CAN EXPLAIN IT FULLY AND IF I CAN ASK HER, JUDGE, IF IT IS

OKAY. >> VICKI DORSETT, HAYS COUNTY BUDGET OFFICER. LOOKING AT THE DATA IN COMPARISON TO HOW THE AGENDA ITEM WAS WRITTEN, THERE THERE IS APPROXIMATELY 750 EMPLOYEES THAT ARE IN THE PLAN THAT WILL HAVE BE IMPLEMENTED. DOES NOT INCLUDE COLLECTIVE BARGAINING OR ELECTED OFFICIAL. A 10% SALARY INCREASE FOR 750 EMPLOYEES WILL COST ANNUALLY JUST UNDER $4.5 MILLION.

>>JUDGE BECERRA: VICKI, I AM SORRY TO INTERRUPT.

I BELIEVE THAT THE CONVERSATION AROUND AN ANNUALLY MAY NOT -- JUST MY ASSESSMENT. I THINK IT IS ALMOST LIKE A MOOT POINT ONLY BECAUSE WE ARE TALKING A MOMENT IN TIME AND

REBUDGETED THE NEW FISCAL YEAR. >> SIR, I WAS GOING TO BREAK

THAT DOWN. >>JUDGE BECERRA: OKAY, THANKS.

>> TALKING ABOUT A 10% INCREASE THAT IS.

PERPETUITY. WE ARE ADDING IT TO THEIR SALARY, YOU WILL HAVE TO BUDGET 4.5 FULLY NEXT YEAR.

TO IMPLEMENT IT FEBRUARY 1 WILL COST JUST UNDER $3 MILLION.

WE BUDGETED $2.6 MILLION THIS YEAR ANOTHER SCENARIO THAT COMMISSIONER INGALSBEND I SPOKE ABOUT WAS A 6%.

THAT COST ANNUALLY IS 2.7. WITH A FISCAL IMPACT OF 1.8.

IF A 6% WAS APPROVED, THAT WOULD LIFE YOU $864,000 TO IMPLEMENT THE NEW PLAN. THE RECOMMENDATION ON THE NEW PLAN WAS SOMEWHERE AROUND $4 MILLION THAT MAG HAD RECOMMENDED. WE WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO IMPLEMENT THAT FULLY. ANOTHER IDEA THAT I ACTUALLY BROUGHT UP TO COMMISSIONER INGALSBE.

KNOW WE DID THIS -- AND I WANTED TO CLARIFY --

>>JUDGE BECERRA: I WAS TRYING TO RESIST AND TWO PEOPLE COUGHING.

I WATCH MY PHONE ALL THE TIME BECAUSE I SERVE AS THE DIRECTOR OF EMERGENCY MANAGE AM. THERE IS POTENTIAL GAS LEAK IN THE BUILDING. I WAS GOING

. >>JUDGE BECERRA: WE ARE BACK.

MICS ARE ON. I WILL DRAG MY FEET A LITTLE -- I WILL DRAG MY FEET WHILE COMMISSIONER SHELL COMES IN.

WE HAD AN OPEN AGENDA ITEM ON OFFERING 10% -- 10% FOR ALL EMPLOYEES UNDER $100 K. BUY SOME TIME.

WE KNOW ACCORDING TO THE SURVEY THAT WE HAVE PAID FOR THAT WE ARE AT LEAST 11.07 ABOVE. WE HAD TO TAKE A BREAK BECAUSE INFORMED THERE WAS A GAS LEAK. WE HAD TO EVACUATE.

THANK YOU FOR COMING IN SUCH AN EFFICIENT MANNER AND TOOK A

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BREAK TO MAKE SURE EVERYTHING IS GOOD AND CLEAR.

IT IS NOW GOOD AND CLEAR AND LIKE THE FILM INDUSTRY, I WAS STRETCHING FOR COMMISSIONER SHELL TO SHOW UP.

AND NOW THAT HE IS HERE, I WILL CONTINUE THE CONVERSATION.

SO I THINK -- YEAH, VICTIM HI JUST WRAPPED UP.

YOU WANT TO SAY SOMETHING ELSE? >> VICKY DORSETT, HAYS COUNTY BUDGET OFFICER. DO WE NEED TO RECAP WHERE WE

WERE? >>JUDGE BECERRA: IF YOU KEEP IT

ALL ENCAPSULATED. >> WE HAVE $2.6 MILLION BUDGETED FOR THE SALARY STUDY. 10% ACROSS THE BOARD FOR THE APPROXIMATE 750 EMPLOYEES IS AROUND 4.5 ANNUALIZED.

THAT INCLUDES FRINGE BENEFITS AS WELL.

JUST UNDER 3MILLION IF WE IMPLEMENTED FEBRUARY 1.

6% ACROSS THE BOARD FOR THOSE 750 EMPLOYEES THAT DO NOT INCLUDE COLLECTIVE BARGAINING AND ELECTED OFFICIALS IS $2.7 MILLION ANNUALIZED AND 1.84 FOR FY '23 ASSUMING FEBRUARY 1 IMPLEMENTATION DATE. OBVIOUSLY WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH BUDGETED FOR THE 10%. THE 6% WOULD LEAVE APPROXIMATELY $850,000 REMAINING TO IMPLEMENT A NEW PLAN.

>>JUDGE BECERRA: VICKI THE BUDGETED PEACE, $2.6 MILLION TO ADDRESS THE INEVITABILITY. DO YOU HAVE ANY WAY OF CAPTURING HOW MANY VACANT POSITIONS OF SALARY SAVINGS UP TO THIS POINT?

>> I DON'T HAVE THAT INFORMATION NOW, BUT I CAN -- I CAN CAPTURE

THAT. >>JUDGE BECERRA: BECAUSE I BELIEVE -- THE NUMBERS YOU JUST GIVEN, I BELIEVE IF WE WERE TO DO WHAT IS BELOW THE RECOMMENDED AND STILL SOMETHING TO KEEP PEOPLE MOVING IN A PRODUCTIVE MATTER.

$2.6 THAT WE BUDGETED PLUS SALARY BECAUSE WE HAVE A LITANY OF VACANCIES. I BELIEVE WE CANNING PRETTY DARN CLOSE IF WE MAKE IT THE FEBRUARY 1 DATE.

THAT IS MY OPINION BASED ON THE INFORMATION YOU ARE SHARING.

>> WE WILL SEE HOW WE ARE DOING WITH SALARY SAVINGS.

SOME HAVE USE IT FOR EXCEPTION REQUEST TO FUND OTHER CONTRACTS OR SERVICES IN THEIR DEPARTMENTS, BUT I COULD RUN THAT. IT WILL TAKE SOME TIME.

ANOTHER THOUGHT THAT I HAD JUST AS THE RECOMMENDATION AND OPTION FOR THE COURT. SO IT WAS -- IT WAS BASED ON MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THE SALARY STUDY WOULD BE COMPLETE WITHIN THE NEXT FOUR TO SIX WEEKS POTE POTENTIALLY. WE COULD -- THE COURT COULD CONSIDER A ONE-TIME -- A BONUS POTENTIALLY.

ONE-TIME PATIENT INSTEAD OF DOING A COLA IN FEBRUARY.

THREE COULD GET EITHER A $750 PAY PAYMENT, WHICH WOULD COST A LITTLE UNDER A MILLION, LEAVING YOU $1.6 MILLION TO IMPLEMENT THE PLAN.

IF YOU CHOSE SOMETHING ALONG THAT NATURE, WHAT THAT WOULD DO IS GET EMPLOYEES MONEY THAT THEIR POCKET FOR ALL EMPLOYEES.

THIS WILL BE ALL THE 750. 10% WOULD BE -- -- IF YOU GAVE A 10% ACROSS THE BOARD WITHOUT LOOKING AT THAT AND DIALING INTO IT OUTSIDE OF THE PLAN THAT WE ARE ALREADY TRYING TO IMPLEMENT, SOME OF THESE POSITIONS ARE ALREADY OVER MARKET RANGES.

>>JUDGE BECERRA: OLD MARKET RANGES THAT WE ANTICIPATE

UPDATING? >> NEW MARKET RANGES.

THEY ARE SAYING THE MARKET RANGES ARE BEHIND 11%.

THAT IS AN AVERAGE. SO SOME ARE BEHIND BAR.

AND SOME LESS. >>JUDGE BECERRA: OF COURSE.

>> SOME ARE BEHIND 10%. YOU COULD PUSH SALARIES IF YOU DID AN ACROSS THE BOARD WITHOUT FURTHER DIALING IN ON THOSE PARTICULAR POSITIONS. IF WE WAITED AND DID A ONE-TIME PAY PAYMENT, LET'S JUST SAY SOMEONE THAT HAS AN ANNUAL SALARY OF $32,000, A 10% IS $3200.

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MONTHLY THAT IS $267. WHEN YOU TAKE OUT THE FRINGE ON THAT, THAT -- YOU KNOW, $220. IF YOU GIVE THEM A $750 WITH THE FRINGE TAKEN OUT YOU ARE LOOKING MORE LIKE $650, $6:20.

IT IS GIVING MORE MONEY TO THEM NOW.

BUT WHEN I LOOK AT ALL THE AVERAGE SALARIES THAT ARE IN THE IMPLEMENTATION PLAN, THE AVERAGE OF ALL THE 750 SALARIES WITH ABOUT $50,000. MONTHLY, THAT IS $417 A MONTH.

AT 10%. IF YOU GAVE THEM A 10%, THAT'S $417 NEXT MONTH VERSUS GIVING THEM A ONE-TIME PAYMENT AND SAVINGS OF $2 MILLION TO FURTHER MOVE IT IN MARCH.

>>JUDGE BECERRA: THE ONLY TWO PIECES THAT COME TO MIND REAL QUICK ON THAT AND NOT TO HOG UP THE SPACE OF QUESTIONING.

BONUSES ARE TAXED AT HIGHER RATE, AND, TWO, IT IS HARD TO PLAN AND FORECAST AND TO SAY, HERE IS WHAT YOU GOT IN SOME KIND OF QUANTIFIABLE WAY. AND IT'S MORE OF A -- IN MY RESPONSE EVERYTHING TO I HAVE BEEN LISTENING TO.

MORE OF A ONE TIME. LITERALLY AS DESIGNED.

AND NOT ADDRESSING THE CHRONIC --

>> WHICH WE HOPE WILL BE ADDRESSED BY MARCH 1, SO YOU WILL GET A BIGGER PAY IN FEBRUARY THAN YOU MIGHT GET --

>>JUDGE BECERRA: I UNDERSTAND THE ARGUMENT AND I APPRECIATE

YOU -- >> THOSE ARE JUST SOME OPTIONS BECAUSE WE MAY BE POTENTIALLY MOVING PEOPLE OUT FURTHER ALONG THE RANGE THAN THE MARKET IS EVEN GOING TO RECOMMEND THAT THEY MOVE. SO GIVING A 10% ACROSS THE BOARD NOW COULD ACTUALLY CREATE SOME INEQUITIES IN THE FUTURE RANGE.

>>JUDGE BECERRA: THE 10% THE WAY THE AGENDA ITEM IS WRITTEN FOR THOSE MAKING LESS THAN $100,000 A YEAR.

IN YOUR QUANTIFYING OF THE LUMP SUCHLT PEOPLE, IS THAT INCLUDING

NORTH OF $100,000 A YEAR. >> ALL OF THOSE -- ALL -- THERE

IS -- LET'S SEE. >>JUDGE BECERRA: MY TARGET IS A LITTLE DIFFERENT THAN YOURS IN THE SUMMARY.

>> A LITTLE BIT, THERE IS. >>JUDGE BECERRA: NORTH OF 100 IS NOT WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT WITH MILK AND EGG PURCHASES.

>> THAT'S PROBABLY ABOUT 15 PEOPLE.

>>JUDGE BECERRA: COMMISSIONER INGALSBE, THESE WERE YOUR NORMAL CONVERSATION POINTS. DO YOU WANT TO ASK ANYTHING

ELSE? >>COMMISSIONER INGALSBE: I DON'T KNOW, IT IS DIFFICULT, JUDGE BECAUSE OUR EMPLOYEES ARE -- YOU KNOW, SUFFERING NOW. THEY WOULD LIKE TO SEE SOMETHING NOW. LIKE WE SAID EARLIER, WE HAVE WAITED SO LONG FOR THIS STUDY. I KNOW WE ARE CLOSE.

I KNOW WE ARE GOING TO START, YOU KNOW, WITH ALL OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS AND DEPARTMENT HEADS AND GET SOMETHING GOING.

AND I WOULD LIKE TO SEE SOMETHING GIVEN TO OUR EMPLOYEES NOW PRIOR TO THAT. I AM STILL TRYING -- I GUESS IN MY MIND I AM STILL DEBATING WHICH IS THE BEST ROUTE TO GO IS. AND SO IF OTHERS WOULD LIKE TO

MAKE COMMENTS. >>JUDGE BECERRA: COMMISSIONER

COHEN. >>COMMISISONER COHEN: AS HOPEFUL AS I AM THAT THE MOVING FORWARD PIECE -- OF THE DISTRICT SOLVES MOVING FORWARD, IT IS NOT EXACT REALLY, JUST NOT YET.

WE ARE STILL GOING TO, YOU KNOW, KEEP HAVING THESE MEETINGS HAVING THESE CONVERSATIONS, TALK TO DEPARTMENT HEADS BUT NO DEFICIT DEADLINE TO THAT BUT I AM HOPEFUL THAT THERE IS A SOLID PLAN FOR THE STUDY. I AM -- WE STILL DON'T HAVE EXACT DATES AND WE CAN'T REALLY COMMUNICATE TO EMPLOYEES, OKAY, THIS WILL HAPPEN BY THEN SO -- BUT I AM NOT GOING TO LEAVE HERE TODAY WITHOUT GIVING THEM SOMETHING.

IS WHERE I STAND. THE LUMP SUM MOST LIKELY IS -- THEY MAY USE THAT LUMP SUM A PAY A BILL THEY ARE BEHIND IN.

AND TO YOUR POINT, JUDGE, THEY CAN'T PLAN, YOU KNOW, FOR FUTURE

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EXPENSES MAYBE THEY LIKE TO WITH THE ADDITIONAL FUNDING TO THEIR PAYCHECK EVERY MONTH. SO I AM STILL TAUPE GIVING THE

10%. >>JUDGE BECERRA: THANK YOU,

COMMISSIONER SHELL. >>COMMISSIONER SHELL: YOU KNOW, I CAN UNDERSTAND THE -- THE IDEAS THAT MISS DORSETT BROUGHT FORWARD AND EVERYBODY IS CONCERNED.

THE THING THAT I WOULD LIKE TO HAPPEN IS FOR EVERYBODY TO HAVE A MEETING DEPARTMENT HEAD AND ELECTED OFFICIALS BEFORE THE NEXT MEETING AND HEAR THEIR RECOMMENDATION HOW BEST TO BUDGET IN THE CURRENT SAVINGS OF THE FISCAL YEAR.

I AM JUST -- I AM JUST ASSUMING WE ARE A QUARTER IN, SO WHAT WE BUDGETED AT 25% TO ANNUALIZE FOR '23 TO COME BACK WITH SOMETHING THAT SAYS THIS IS THE FIRST BEST STEP TO MAKE, KNOWING THAT THEY ALL ARE HAVING -- EACH OF THEIR DEPARTMENTS HAVE DIFFERENT TYPES OF ISSUES. NOW IF THERE IS A FLAT PERCENT THAT THE COURT SAYS TO CONSIDER THIS COST OF LIVING RIGHT NOW.

A DOS OF LIVING INCREASE ACROSS THE BOARD THAT WE KNOW EVERYBODY WILL END GETTING OUT OF THIS. AND THAT WILL, OF COURSE, SUBTRACT FROM THE ANNUALIZED AMOUNT FOR '23. MEAN, I THINK SOMETHING THAT IS FINE TO CONSIDER.

BUT BEFORE WE MAKE ANY MAJOR DECISIONSES THAT WILL IMPACT THAT TOTAL AMOUNT, I WANT TO SEE WHAT THAT PLAN IS ON HOW THIS ADDRESS THEM. BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, LIKE VICKI MENTIONED, THOSE PERCENTAGES IS AN AAVERAGE.

IS THERE A CONCERN FOR DEPARTMENT HEADS ARE IN THIS GRADE AND HAVE THE DISCREPANCY OF THIS AND THE MARKET IS HUGE.

I WOULD RATHER HEAR FROM THE DEPARTMENT HEAD AND THE DEPARTMENT OFFICIAL WHAT THE FAIREST WAY TO ADDRESS THIS BEFORE WE ALLOCATED TOO MUCH. MY SHORT STORY A COST OF LIVING FOR EVERYBODY, THAT WILL BE FINE FOR NOW.

BUT I REALLY WANT TO HEAR FROM THE DEPARTMENT HEADS AND ELECTED OFFICIALS TO SEE IS THE BEST WAY UTILIZE WHAT WE BUDGET AND SAVINGS. BUDGET FOR '23 JUST FOR SALARIES BEFORE WE MADE A SIGNIFICANT DECISION WITH THOSE FUNDS.

THE -- I UNDERSTAND THE SITUATION THAT EVERYBODY HAS MENTIONED. I AM NOT DISAGREEING.

I THINK IT WILL BE NICE TO HEAR FROM EVERYBODY ON WHAT THEY SEE THE BEST WAY TO ADDRESS THE PROBLEMS THAT THEY ARE FACING WITH THEIR EMPLOYEES AND ASSOCIATES.

>>JUDGE BECERRA: COMMISSIONER? >>COMMISSIONER SMITH: I -- YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE THINGS KIND OF STUCK OUT -- AND I WILL USE TRANSPORTATION AGAIN AS AN AREA EXAMPLE.

YOU KNOW WE HAVE SO MANY DIFFERENT JOB DESCRIPTIONS AND INDIVIDUAL SALARY STAGES. AND A LOT OF OFFICES THAT MY CONCERN IS AS WE LOOK AT THESE POSITIONS ESPECIALLY ONES THAT WE HAVE DONE SALARY EXCEPTIONS FOR OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS. WE HAVE PEOPLE ON THE TOP OF RANGES WITH A 10% INCREASE WE WILL BLOW THEM OUT OF THE RANGE, THE PRESCRIBED RANGE AT ALL FOR SOME OF THOSE JOBS AND WE HAVE PEOPLE THAT WE HIRED RECENTLY. WE DID A SALARY EXCEPTION TODAY.

IF WE DID A 10% INCREASE ON THAT INDIVIDUAL WE HIRED TODAY OR HIRED LAST MONTH, THEY ARE GOING TO MORE OR LESS BLOW OUT OF THE WATER ANY EMPLOYEE THAT WE HAD IN THAT SAME JOB IN THE SAME OFFICE FOR QUITE SOME TIME. THAT IS THE REASON I WOULD MUCH RATHER GIVE CREDIBILITY TO OUR INDIVIDUAL DEPARTMENT HEADS TO LOOK AT THE POSITIONS TO THE MEETING THAT COMMISSIONER SHELL.

I WOULD FAVOR A ONE-TIME LUMP SUM PAYMENT TO OUR EMPLOYEES AS A RETENTION BONUS. I SAY THAT BECAUSE THAT -- THAT IS SOMETHING THAT THEY CAN -- IF THEY ARE IN A SITUATION WHERE THEY NEED THAT ASSISTANCE RIGHT NOW, IT GIVES THEM THE ABILITY TO DECIDE WHERE THAT MONEY GOES. AND THEY CAN PLAN CONTINUE TO FOR ONE MONTH. BUT IN DOING THAT AND SUPPORTING THAT A DROP-DEAD DEADLINE OF MARCH 1.

I DON'T CARE IF WE SIT IN THIS ROOM EIGHT HOURS, 15 HOURS, WE DON'T LEAVE THIS ROOM WHATEVER THE COURT DATE IS CLOSER TO MARCH 1 WITHOUT A UNIFIED COMPLETED PLAN WHAT WE ARE GOING

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TO DO ON SALARIES. >> JUDGE, CAN I MENTION ONE OTHER THING. FEBRUARY 14, MY GOAL WOULD BE TO BE HEAR THAT FEEDBACK FROM THE GROUP TO MEET PRIOR TO FEBRUARY 14. WE WILL THEN MAKE AN INTERIM DECISION BASED ON THE RECOMMENDATIONS.

DOES NOT MEAN IT HAS TO BE THE IF YOU WILL SOLUTION.

I DON'T WANT IT TO SOUND LIKE I AM SAYING WAIT FOR THE IF YOU WILL SOLUTION. UNDERSTAND THE COMPREHENSION WHEN THAT CAN HAPPEN. SO I AM SAYING FEBRUARY 14, WE WILL HAVE SOME FEEDBACK FROM EVERYBODY THAT SAYS THIS IS THE FIRST STEP YOU ALL SHOULD MAKE WITH THE FUND WE HAVE.

WE STILL HAVE WORK TO DO TO SOLVE THE PROBLEM WEATHER WITH H WITH THE REMAINING FUNDS AND LOOK TO 2024.

I WANTON CLARIFY. I DIDN'T MEAN THAT WE WILL HAVE TO WAIT FOR THE WHOLE THING TO DO SOME.

WE WILL DO THAT ON THE 14TH. EVERYBODY AGREES IT DOESN'T PUT US BACKWARDS. IT DOESN'T IMPACT NEGATIVELY.

IT DOESN'T HAVE INEQUITIES. THE FIRST STEP NOW AND WE WILL

WORK ON THE SECOND STEP. >>JUDGE BECERRA: THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER. MY RECAP IS HEARING EVERYTHING, COLA IS CLEARED EITHER WAY WE ARE FRAMING IT BECAUSE THE UNIFYING THEME BEHIND THIS EFFORT.

WE HAVE ALL IDENTIFIED THIS I THINK SO THAT ARE DIRECTLY TIDE TO COLA, COST OF LIVING. YOU ARE RIGHT, COMMISSIONER, FIRST STEP, MY ONLY ASK INSTEAD OF MAKING THE FIRST STEP FEBRUARY 14, I THINK THIS FIRST STEP NEEDS TO BE TODAY.

I ALSO WOULD AGREE WITH COMMISSIONER SMITH WITH DISCRETION OF DEPARTMENT HEADS AND ELECTED OFFICIALS AND NOT JUST OVERRIDE AND GIVE A AVALANCHING DEAL AND JUST AWARDED -- AWARDED -- VOTED ON INCREASES IN DIFFERENT SPACES.

AND SO I THINK THE FIRST STEP IS TO DESCRIBED INSTEAD OF ON FEBRUARY 14. DO IT 10% FOR THOSE DOING $100,000, EXPRESSING COLA AND ALLOWING THE DEPARTMENT HEADS AND ELECTED OFFICIALS TO NOT NECESSARILY GIVE IT TO SOMEBODY WHO JUST GOT AN EXCEPTION. I HAVE HIGH FAITH.

I REALLY WILL REPEAT IT AGAIN. I DON'T LIKE TO MICROMANAGE PEOPLE, ELECTED OFFICIALS, DEPARTMENT HEADS OR ANYTHING ELSE. WE HAVE THEM THERE BECAUSE WE TRUST IN THEM. WHEN PEOPLE SHOW YOU WHO THEY ARE, BELIEVE THEM. MY BELIEF THAT ELECTED OFFICIALS AND DEPARTMENT HEADS WILL HAVE THE ABILITY TO MANAGE THOSE THINGS THAT ARE NECESSARY AND THAT CAN BE TODAY THAT FIRST STEP WE ARE DESCRIBING SO WE CAN ADDRESS THAT ON THE DROP DEAD FEBRUARY 14 TO CONTINUE THE CONVERSATION TO MOVE ALONG FURTHER, BUT LET THAT STARTING POINT, THAT FIRST STEP BE HERE, BE NOW. AND SO, COMMISSIONER INGALSBE, DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING ELSE?

>>. >>COMMISSIONER INGALSBE: I DID.

JUDGE, WE WERE TO CONSIDER THE 10%.

I AM NOT SURE WHAT THE AVERAGE SALARY FOR THOSE IN THE LOWER TIER OF OUR PLAN, VICKI. DID YOU SAY MOST EMPLOYEES WERE

AT $50,000 OR BELOW? >> THE $50,000 WAS THE AVERAGE.

THERE IS ACTUALLY -- >>COMMISSIONER INGALSBE: I AM LOOKING AT THE $100,000, JUDGE, IF THAT IS --

>>JUDGE BECERRA: TO LOWER THAT DOLLAR AMOUNT.

>>COMMISSIONER INGALSBE: LOWER THAT THRESHOLD.

BECAUSE IT IS THOSE INDIVIDUALS, THOSE EMPLOYEES, I BELIEVE THAT ARE PROBLEM SUFFERING THE MOST, THOSE THAT ARE MAKING $50,000 OR LESS OF ABOUT 750 IN THE PLAN, 520 ARE UNDER $50,000.

$50,000 OR LESS. 230 ARE MAKING OVER $50,000.

>> I WOULD SAY WE ARE GETTING INTO A PRETTY GRAY AREA.

WHENEVER I SAY THAT, THAT $100,000 NUMBER.

AND WE HAD -- WE JUST HAD THE CONVERSATION WITH THE CLERK ABOUT THIS, A VERY ARBITRARY NUMBER WE PULLED OUT OF THE AIR.

JUST PULLED OUT OF THE AIR. NOTHING TO DO WITH ANY OF OUR SALARY STEPS. HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH ANY OUR -- ANYTHING THAT IS ACTUALLY IDENTIFIABLE OTHER THAN JUST A NUMBER THAT WE CAME UP WITH. AND SO MY POINT IS THAT EITHER -- EITHER WE TIE IT TO A CERTAIN STEP LEVEL OR WE JUST SAY ALL OF OUR EMPLOYEES BECAUSE EVEN TODAY WE DID A SALARY EXCEPTION FOR ONE OF OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS AND THAT INDIVIDUAL WE COULD NOT HIRE UNLESS WE PAID THEM $1 04,000.

WHEN SHE CAME IN HERE TODAY, IF SHE HAD SAID WE CAN GET THAT

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EMPLOYEE FOR $96,000, THEN WE ARE GOING TO GIVE THEM A 10% INCREASE TODAY BUT WE CAN GET 104,000 AND THE SAME EMPLOYEE COULDN'T QUALIFY BECAUSE MAKE $5,000 MORE.

I THINK THAT NUMBER IS VERY ARBITRARY.

DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? >>JUDGE BECERRA: IT DOES MAKE SENSE, BUT DOESN'T NECESSARILY BE CONSIDERED BY EVERYONE IN THE THOUGHT PROCESS. IT DOES MAKE SENSE AND ARBITRARY ARE ALL THE OTHER NUMBERS WE COME UP WITH.

THEY ARE ALL ARBITRARY. ONE WAY OR THE OTHER WE CAN SAY THAT. ARBITRARY CHOOSING THIS GROUP.

>>COMMISSIONER SMITH: IF WE DO IT, TIE IT TO A SALARY STEP OR RANGES. WE NEED TO PUT SOMETHING IN THERE THAT SAYS AT THIS POINT -- IF WE ARE GOING TO EMPLOYEE THE LID OFF OF SOME OF THESE SALARY RANGES, WHICH WE PROBABLY ARE.

HOW DO WE ADDRESS THAT? >> THERE ARE ACTUALLY FOUR DIFFERENT GRADE MOVEMENTS IN MAG'S RICHES PLAN WHICH IS 110% THAT WILL NOT MOVE 10%. WILL MOVE LESS THAN 10%.

I AM SAYING IF YOU MOVE ACROSS THE BOARD 10%.

EVEN AT THEIR RICHEST PLAN WHICH WE -- WE DIDN'T EVEN RUN THOSE NUMBERS. WE RAN 95 AND 100%.

UP TO 103%. THIS IS THEIR 110% RECOMMENDATION TO PULL IN 2024 AND ADDRESS THOSE.

MORE LIKE A TWO-YEAR PLAN. YOU ARE GOING TO PUSH PEOPLE ACCORDING TO THE MARKET OUTSIDE OF THAT.

>>COMMISSIONER SMITH: PAST THAT RANGE.

>> I WANT TO CLARIFY SOMETHING THAT WAS SAID EARLIER.

THE COURT APPROVED A 5% LAST YEAR.

I KNOW IT WAS IMPLEMENTED IN OCTOBER THE PRIOR YEAR BECAUSE THAT IS WHEN OUR FISCAL YEAR STARTS, A 5% THAT WAS ISSUED FOR ALL EMPLOYEES LAST YEAR. A MERIT POOL AND FURTHER MOVEMENT. THE ONE-TIME NAMES WENT OUT.

>>JUDGE BECERRA: TRANSPORTATION, ETC.

>> GRADES 110 AND BELOW, I BELIEVE.

AND REGRADES FOR THE TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT AND THE DA'S OFFICE. SPECIFIC POSITION.

A 5% THAT WAS AVAILABLE FOR EVERYBODY AND SPECIFIC GROUPS.

>>JUDGE BECERRA: I REMEMBER. YOU GOT IT.

THANK YOU. THE MOTION IS SECONDED FOR FOR THE 10% FOR ALL THOSE UNDER $100,000.

AND WE HAVE IT SECONDED. DR. CARDENAS, IF NO OTHER DISCUSSION. >COMMISSIONER INGALSBE: SO WE WOULDN'T WANT TO CONSIDER JUDGING GRADES 110-115, THOSE

MAKING UNDER $50,000. >>JUDGE BECERRA: GRADE 115 DOWN.

IS THAT WHAT YOU ARE SUGGEST SOMETHING IN GRADE 115 DOWN.

>>COMMISSIONER SMITH: THE BUDGETARY IMPACT FOR THAT?

>> I WOULD HAVE TO RUN THOSE NUMBERS.

I HAVEN'T GOTTEN THAT INFORMATION.

ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE 115 CURRENT PLAN OR THE NEW?

>> THE NEW PLAN, 115. >> BEFORE WE VOTE ON THINKING, I WANT CLARIFICATION ON WHAT THE NUMBERS ARE.

THAT IS FAIR TO ASK. >> IN THE NEW GRADE 115, THERE IS 111, 112, 113 OLD GRADES. I WILL NEED TIME TO PULL ALL OF THOSE PEOPLE IN TO SEE WHAT THIS LOOKS LIKE.

>>JUDGE BECERRA: I WILL SAY INCRED OF CREATING AROUND OPERATION, LEAVE IT $100,000 AND UNDER AND GREAT FOR PERSPECTIVES, WHAT THE AGENDA WAS WRITTEN AS AND WHAT THE DISCUSSION HAS BEEN AROUND. THAT WAS MY MOTION AND IT HAS

BEEN SECONDED. >>COMMISISONER COHEN: YES.

>>COMMISSIONER INGALSBE: NO. >>COMMISSIONER SMITH: NO.

>>COMMISSIONER SHELL: NO. >>JUDGE BECERRA: YES.

>>COMMISSIONER INGALSBE: JUDGE, I WOULD STILL LIKE VICKI TO LOOK AT THOSE NUMBERS FROM 110 TO 115 FOR THE 10%.

I THINK THOSE ARE THE EMPLOYEES THAT WE ARE TRYING TO ADDRESS AND I AM FOLLOWING CONSIDER THAT.

>>JUDGE BECERRA: A MOTION TO -- BUT MY HOPE IS NOT TO BRING BACK

TO A FUTURE COURT DATE. >> NO, TODAY, IF VICKI CAN RUN

THOSE NUMBERS. >>JUDGE BECERRA: HOW LONG DO YOU NEED TO RUN THOSE NUMBERS FROM 115 TO BELOW TO REACH THAT.

>> PROBABLY ABOUT 30 MINUTES OR LESS.

>>JUDGE BECERRA: IN THE MEANTIME, WE CAN COME BACK TO THIS AGENDA ITEM AND GIVE YOU THAT TIME.

AND WE HAVE PLENTY OF ROADS AND OTHER PROJECTS WE CAN HIT.

>> JUDGE, BEFORE WE MOVE ON WITH THAT DISCUSSION, I WOULD SUPPORT THE -- I WILL TELL YOU, I WOULD SUPPORT THE ONE-TIME ALLOCATION

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TO EVERY EMPLOYEE WITH THE UNDERSTANDING AND DIRECTION TO STAFF THAT THIS WILL BE CLOSED OUT BY MARCH 1.

AND -- I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW IF I WILL HAVE THE VOTES ON THIS COURT TO SUPPORT THAT, BUT I WILL BE WILLING TO OFFER THAT MOTION SPECIFICALLY TO TAKE CARE OF OUR STAFF FOR THIS MONTH, BECAUSE THAT ONE-TIME ALLOCATION WILL GET THEM ON AVERAGE MUCH, MUCH MORE THIS MONTH THAN THEY WOULD GET ON A SALARY ADJUSTMENT WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT WE WILL DO THE SALARY ADJUSTMENT BY

NO LATER THAN MARCH 1. >> ON THE AVERAGE WE WILL GET THEM TWICE AS MUCH FOR THIS ONE MONTH.

WITH THE PLAN TO IMPLEMENT MARCH 1 WITH THE NEW CHART.

THERE IS STILL PROBABLY THREE GRADES WITHIN THE 115 AND BELOW THAT ARE GOING TO BE PUSHED OUT 10% AS WELL.

JUST SO YOU KNOW. >>COMMISSIONER SMITH: I WOULD OFFER THAT MOTION TO DO A RUN OPINION TIME PAYMENT TO ALL EMPLOYEES OF $750, JUST BY CLARIFICATION.

THAT WOULD AVERAGE BEEN TWICE WHAT THEY WOULD BE AVAILABLE TO RECEIVE UNDER THE 150% SALARY ADJUSTMENT.

>> ON AVERAGE SALARY. >>JUDGE BECERRA: ARE YOU TRYING

TO SAY TO ALL EMPLOYEES? >>COMMISSIONER SMITH: ALL EMPLOYEES WITH THE EXCEPTING OF COLLECTIVE BARGAINING AND ELECTED OFFICIALS. RUNNING THOSE NUMBERS WITH THE UNDERSTANDING AND DIRECTION TO STAFF THAT WE WILL HAVE THIS SALARY STUDY AND REEVALUAION BY MARCH 1 FOR IMPLEMENTATION BY

THE COURT. >>COMMISSIONER INGALSBE: COMMISSIONER, AS YOU HAVE REQUESTED, I THINK IT IS -- IT IS IMPORTANT JUST TO AT LEAST HEAR THE NUMBERS FROM VICKI THAT WE ASKED HER TO DO. SO I WOULD LIKE TO AT LEAST HEAR

THOSE NUMBERS. >>COMMISSIONER SMITH: SURE.

>>COMMISSIONER INGALSBE: THAT I --

>>JUDGE BECERRA: BEFORE WE GO ON.

>>COMMISSIONER SMITH: I AM HAPPY TO DO THAT.

WHENEVER WE COME BACK TO THE ITEM, I WILL OFFER THAT MOTION.

>>JUDGE BECERRA: WE WILL CONTINUE THE CONVERSATION.

VICKI, SIGNAL TO ME WHEN WE ARE READY.

GO ON TO ROADS. >>DR. CARDENAS: WE HAVE MORE KS.

[Item K. 3. Discussion and possible action to accept a Proposal from Water & Earth Technologies (WET) related a replacement Data Collection Unit (DCU) located on the northwest corner of Hugo Road and Cascade Trail; authorize a discretionary exemption pursuant to Texas Local Government Code Chpt. 262.024 (a)(7)(D) and amend the budget accordingly. S H E LL/MIK E JON E S]

>>DR. CARDENAS: 4 WE DID. WE DIDN'T DO 3.

K-3 -- >>JUDGE BECERRA: SEE WHAT A BREAK DOES TO THE FLOW CA RZ CARDENAS K-3, DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO ACCEPT A PROPOSAL FROM WATER AND EARTH TECHNOLOGIES RELATED TO A REPLACEMENT DATA COLLECTION UNIT LOCATED ON THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF HUGO ROAD AND CASCADE TRAIL, AUTHORIZE A DISCRETIONARY EXEMPTION PURSUANT TO TEXAS LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE 262.024A 7D TO AMEND THE BUDGET

ACCORDINGLY. >> SO MOVED.

>> SECOND. >>COMMISSIONER SMITH: YES.

>>COMMISISONER COHEN: YES. >>COMMISSIONER INGALSBE: YES.

[Item K. 5. Discussion and possible action to authorize the County Judge to execute an agreement between Hays County and SI Mechanical, LLC. for Countywide Plumbing Services, pursuant to RFP 2023-P03. B E C E R R A /T .C R U MLE Y]

>>COMMISSIONER SHELL: YES. >>JUDGE BECERRA: YES.

PLEASE HOPE K-5. >>DR. CARDENAS: K-5, DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO AUTHORIZE THE COUNTY JUDGE TO EXECUTE AN AGREEMENT BETWEEN HAYS COUNTY AND SI MECHANICAL TO COUNTYWIDE

PLUMBING AS MUCH AS. >> MOTION.

>> SECOND. >>COMMISSIONER SHELL: YES.

[Item K. 6. Discussion and possible action to authorize the County Judge to execute a $50,000.00 capital funding contract with Central Texas Dispute Resolution Center (DRC) as approved during the FY23 budget process. IN GA LS B E]

>>COMMISISONER COHEN: YES. >>COMMISSIONER SMITH: YES.

>>COMMISSIONER INGALSBE: YES. >>JUDGE BECERRA: YES.

K-6. >>DR. CARDENAS: K-6, DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO AUTHORIZE THE COUNTY JUDGE TO EXECUTE A $50,000 CAPITAL FUNDING CONTRACT WITH CENTRAL TEXAS DISPUTE RESOLUTION CENTER AS APPROVED IN THE FY '23 BUDGET PROCESS.

>> SO MOVED. >> SECOND.

>>COMMISSIONER INGALSBE: YES. >>COMMISSIONER SHELL: YES.

[Item K. 7. Discussion and possible action to authorize the County Judge to execute the Hays County American Rescue Plan Recovery Grant Agreement between Hays County and Greater San Marcos Youth Council Inc regarding recovery assistance for direct or indirect impacts of COVID-19 and amend the budget accordingly. S H E LL]

>>COMMISISONER COHEN: YES. >>COMMISSIONER SMITH: YES.

>>JUDGE BECERRA: YES. >>DR. CARDENAS: K-7, DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION TO AUTHORIZE THE COUNTY JUDGE TO EXECUTE THE HAYS COUNTY AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN RECOVERY AGREEMENT BETWEEN HAYS COUNTY AND GREATER SAN MARCOS YOUTH COUNCIL, INC. REGARDING RECOVERY ASSISTANCE FOR DIRECT OR INDIRECT IMPACTS OF COVID-19 AND AMEND THE BUDGET ACCORDINGLY.

>> SO MOVED. >> SECOND.

>>COMMISSIONER SHELL: JUDGE, I WOULD LIKE TO ADD IF I MAY, THE YOUTH CENTER APPROVED A LITTLE OVER $236,000.

WE HAVE CURRENTLY RIGHT NOW, WE ARE PROPOSING $136,000.

IF IT IS OKAY WITH THE COURT, I WOULD LIKE TO ADD ANOTHER $100,000 FROM MIAL DIETITIAN GO AHEAD AND GET THEM TAKEN CARE OF FOR WHAT THEY ARE QUALIFYING FOR.

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A LOT GOING ON AS WE ALL KNOW AND I THINK WE CAN DO THAT NOW AND CHANGE THAT VALUE FROM 136 TO 236 BEFORE YOU SIGN THAT.

>>JUDGE BECERRA: SOUNDS LIKE WONDERFUL IDEA AND I CAN FIND NO REASON WHY WE WOULDN'T SUPPORT THAT.

PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. >>COMMISISONER COHEN: YES.

>>COMMISSIONER SMITH: YES. >>COMMISSIONER SHELL: YES.

[Item K. 8. Discussion and possible action to authorize the County Judge to execute the Hays County American Rescue Plan Recovery Grant Agreement between Hays County and Dripping Springs Community Missions Partnership Inc regarding recovery assistance for direct or indirect impacts of COVID-19 and amend the budget accordingly. S MIT H]

>>COMMISSIONER INGALSBE: YES. >>JUDGE BECERRA: YES.

K-8. >>DR. CARDENAS: K-8, DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO AUTHORIZE THE COUNTY JUDGE TO EXECUTE THE HAYS COUNTY AGAINST HAYS AND DRIPPING SPRINGS COMMUNITY MISSIONS PARTNERSHIP, INC. REGARDING RECOVERY ASSISTANCE

FOR DIRECT OR INDIRECT IMPACTS. >> SO MOVED.

>> SECOND SMITH YES. >>COMMISSIONER INGALSBE: YES.

[Item K. 9. Discussion and possible action to authorize the County Judge to execute the Hays County American Rescue Plan Recovery Grant Agreement between Hays County and Wimberley 4-H Buyers Pool, Inc regarding recovery assistance for direct or indirect impacts of COVID-19 and amend the budget accordingly. S MIT H]

>>COMMISSIONER SHELL: YES. >>COMMISISONER COHEN: YES.

>>JUDGE BECERRA: YES. K-9.

>>DR. CARDENAS: 9, DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO AUTHORIZE THE COUNTY JUDGE TO EXECUTE THE HAYS COUNTY AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN AGROOEMENT BETWEEN HAYS COUNTY AND WIMBERLY 4-8 BUYERS POOL REGARDING RECOVERY ASSISTANCE FOR DIRECT AND INDIRECT IMPACTS

OF COVID-19. >> SO MOVED.

>> SECOND. >>COMMISSIONER SMITH: ABOUT BEFORE WE VOTE, THE BUYERS POOL IS IN CHARGE OF THE ANIMAL BARN THAT ALL 4-H MEMBERS WILL BE USING AND THE FUNDS WILL HELP OUTFIT THE FACILITY FOR ALL OF THE DIFFERENT YOUTH WHO PARTICIPATE IN THESE COUNTYWIDE. NOT JUST WIMBERLY.

>>JUDGE BECERRA: WELL SAID. CALL THE ROLL.

>>COMMISSIONER INGALSBE: YES. >>COMMISSIONER SHELL: YES.

>>COMMISSIONER SMITH: YES. >>COMMISISONER COHEN: YES.

>>JUDGE BECERRA: YES. THERE WE ARE SUPPORTING 4-H

[Item K. 10. Discussion and possible action to establish a budget for the Local Assistance and Tribal Consistency Fund (LATCF) under the American Rescue Plan Act totaling $100,000.00. S MIT H /D OR S E T T]

AGAIN. WELL-DONE.

PLEASE OPEN K-10. >>DR. CARDENAS: 10, DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO ESTABLISH A BUDGET FOR THE LOCAL ASSISTANCE OF TRIBAL CONSISTENCY FUND UNDER THE AMERICAN RESCUE

PLAN ACT TOTALING $100,000. >> SO MOVED.

>> SECOND. >>JUDGE BECERRA: COMMISSIONER?

>>COMMISSIONER SMITH: YOU REMEMBER EARLIER THIS YEAR, VICKI BROUGHT THIS TO US IT AND WE QUALIFIED FOR $100,000 TOTAL.

OF THE FIRST $50,000 ALLOCATION, WE AS A COURT CHOSE TO PUT $20,000 OF THAT TOWARD FENTANYL -- TO THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT FOR FENTANYL OUTREACH AND EDUCATION AND JUST THE

ACCEPTANCE OF THOSE FUNDS. >>JUDGE BECERRA: PLEASE CALL THE

[Item K. 11. Discussion and possible action to approve the naming of a private driveway in Precinct 3, Amber Sky Lane. S H E LL/P A C H E C O]

ROLL. >>COMMISISONER COHEN: YES.

>>COMMISSIONER SHELL: YES. >>COMMISSIONER SMITH: YES.

>>COMMISSIONER INGALSBE: YES. >>JUDGE BECERRA: YES.

K-11. >>DR. CARDENAS: 11, DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO APPROVE THE NAMING OF PRIVATE DRIVEWAY

TO PRECINCT 3 AMBER SKY LANE. >>COMMISSIONER INGALSBE: YES.

>>COMMISISONER COHEN: YES. >>COMMISSIONER SHELL: YES.

>>COMMISSIONER SMITH: YES. >>JUDGE BECERRA: YES.

K-13. WE WILL COME BACK TO THAT.

[Item I. 1. Discussion and possible action to authorize the County Judge to execute a Professional Service Agreement between Hays County and Raba Kistner, Inc. to provide construction, engineering & inspection (CE&I) services on an On-Call basis related to road improvement projects in Hays County. IN GA LS B E /B OR C H E R D IN G]

>>DR. CARDENAS: WE WILL COME BACK AND WE HAVE ROADS AND SUBDI SUBDIVISIONS.

>>DR. CARDENAS: I-1, DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE APPLICATION TO AUTHORIZE THE COUNTY JUDGE TO EXECUTE PROFESSIONAL SERVICE AGREEMENT BETWEEN HAYS COUNTY AND RABA KISTNER TOP PROVIDE CONSTRUCTION, ENGINEERING AND INSPECTION SERVICES ON ON-CALL BASIS TO ROAD IMPROVEMENTS IN HAYS COUNTY.

>> SO MOVED. >> SECOND.

>>JUDGE BECERRA: ANYTHING. >>COMMISSIONER INGALSBE: JUDGE, I WANT A CLARIFICATION. IS THIS ONE WE PULLED LAST TIME BECAUSE IT WAS WORDED A LITTLE -- OR IS THIS NOT -- I GUESS REALLY, MY QUESTION, JERRY, APPROVING RABA KISTNER FOR ON-CALL BASIS FOR ANY ROAD, BUT IN THE BACK-UP, IT SAYS IF WE APPROVE THIS, THEN THEY ARE GOING TO DO THE GRADING FOR -- THE GRADING PROJECT. SO IT IS ALMOST LIKE WE DID THIS KIND OF BACKWARDS IS WHAT I AM SAYING -- MORE SPECIFIC TO THE PROJECT OF SIGNING.

>>COMMISSIONER INGALSBE: DIDN'T WE APPROVE ALREADY RABA KISTNER.

>> WE SELECT THEM. >>COMMISSIONER INGALSBE: THEY WEREN'T ON THE APPROVED LIST AND THATS WHAT HE WE ARE DOING NOW.

>> THEY WERE ON THE APPROVED LIST.

AND THIS ITEM WAS -- ASSIGN THE PROJECT AS DESCRIBED IN THE

SUMMARY. >>COMMISSIONER INGALSBE: OKAY.

I MEAN DO YOU UNDERSTAND THE CONFUSION THOUGH?

>> YES, I UNDERSTAND. >>COMMISSIONER INGALSBE: BUT IF WE ARE OKAY WITH MOVING FORWARD, I AM OKAY.

>> WHAT I GATHERED FROM IT -- I DIDN'T HAVE CONVERSATION ABOUT

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THIS SPECIFICALLY. WHAT I GATHERED IS THEY WANTED SOMEONE TO BE ON CALL FOR FUTURE PROJECTS BUT HAD A SPECIFIC NEED FOR IN PROJECT. IN OTHER WORDS, THEY ARE GETTING OFTENTIMES YOU HEAR FROM M MAKE SHAUNESSEY IN A BIT.

WE HAVE A ON-CALL CONTRACT WITH MCGUINESS AND WE DIDN'T.

BUT USED MCGUINNESS FROM THE TEXAS ASSOCIATION OF COUNTIES.

WE DIDN'T EXECUTE AN ON-CALL CONTRACT WITH HIM UNTIL WE HAD A SPECIFIC NEED FOR SOME THAT CAUSES US TO SAY LET'S HAVE AN ONCALL CONTRACT PUT TOGETHER. I ASSUME THIS IS WHAT THIS WAS.

WE HAD A SPECIFIC NEED FOR IT. BUT THEN WE ALSO WANTED TO KEEP THEM ON CALL. ON A ON-CALL BASIS FOR FUTURE.

>>COMMISSIONER INGALSBE: KIND OF CONFUSING BUT OKAY.

>>JUDGE BECERRA: THANK YOU FOR POINTING THAT OUT, COMMISSIONER.

WELL-DONE. >>COMMISISONER COHEN: YES.

[Item I. 2. Discussion and possible action to accept Santa Fe Run and Great Northern into the County road maintenance system. IN GA LS B E /B OR C H E R D IN G]

>>COMMISSIONER INGALSBE: YES. >>COMMISSIONER SMITH: YES.

>>COMMISSIONER SHELL: YES. >>JUDGE BECERRA: YES.

I-2. >>DR. CARDENAS: DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO ACCEPT SANTA FE RUN AND GREAT NORTHERN INTO THE COUNTY ROAD MAINTENANCE SYSTEM.

>>COMMISSIONER INGALSBE: SO MOVED.

>> SECOND. >>COMMISSIONER INGALSBE: WHEN I CAME FOR REDISTRICTING, THIS IS ONE OF THE ROADS THAT WAS IN THE WORST SHAPE, WITH SANTA FE WAS IN THE WORSE SHARP THAN I EVER SEEN ANY ROAD. I CALLED IT IN AND FOUND OUT IT WAS A PRIVATELY MAINTAINED ROADWAY; HOWEVER, THERE HAVE BEEN ISSUES ALONG THE WAY THROUGHOUT THE YEARS.

AND I GUESS THE CONTRACTOR OR THE DEVELOPER NEVER BROUGHT IT UP TO ACCOUNT STANDARD NAPTIME HAS SINCE PASSED.

THEY REALLY -- WE TRIED WORKING WITH THEM.

WE TRIED TO GET THEM TO PARTICIPATE FINANCIALLY AND WE ARE NOT GETTING ANY CORPORATION. AND SO BECAUSE OF THAT, WE REALLY FEEL THAT IT NEEDS TO BE UNDER COUNTY MAINTENANCE.

AND IT IS IN JUST HORRIBLE SPACE AND NOT FAIR TO THE REST DENTS THAT LIVE ON THAT ROADWAY TO HAVE TO DODGE HUGE POTHOLES AND BASE FAILURES AND EVERYTHING ELSE GOING ON.

THEY DUMP TRASH ALL THE TIME THERE ALSO.

IT IS JUST IN REALLY BAD SHAPE. IF THE COURT AGREES, WE WOULD REALLY LIKE TO HAVE IT COUNTY MAINTAINED.

>>JUDGE BECERRA: WHAT DO YOU ESTIMATE THE COST TO BRING IT UP

TO SPEED? >> PROBABLY I WOULD SAY $20,000 IN MATERIALS. I WILL WANT -- I DO WANT TO ADD THAT IT WAS BUILT IN 1998. AND SOME RECORDS INDICATE IT WAS BUILT TO COUNTY STANDARDS AT THE TIME; HOWEVER, THE -- DURING THE MAINTENANCE PERIOD, THE MAINTENANCE WAS NOT CARRIED OUT.

AND THE BOND AT THAT TIME -- -- UNMAINTAINED AND NOT RECOGNIZED, AND IT WAS BUILT AT THE CURRENT STANDARDS AT THAT TIME.

AND I AM COMFORTABLE WITH -- MAINTAINING AND STARTING

MAINTENANCE ON IT. >>JUDGE BECERRA: COMMISSIONER.

>>COMMISSIONER SMITH: HOW LONG OF A ROADWAY.

THE REASON I AM ASKING THAT, SEVEN NEIGHBORHOODS THAT WOULD

LOVE FOR US TO TAKE THEM. >> I WANT THIS TO BE CLEAR THAT THE ROAD WAS CONSTRUCTED AND YOU THE SUPERVISION OF THE COUNTY AND INTENDED TO OWNED BY THE COUNTY AND THE FAILURE OF THE COUNTY TO TAKE THE ROAD IS WHY WE ARE DOING THAT TODAY.

TO OBVIOUSLY WE ARE NOT ABLE TO TAKE PRIVATE ROADS INTO THE COUNTY SYSTEM. I WOULD WANT IT TO BE CLEAR AND PART OF THE MOTION THAT THIS WAS CONSTRUCTED PART OF COUNTY SPECIFICATIONS AND THE COUNTY FAILED TO TAKE THE ROAD INTO THE SYSTEM AT THE TIME AND IS NOW DOING SO.

I HAVE A MEMO FROM THE THEN PRECINCT 2 COMMISSIONER WHERE A NEGOTIATION WAS HAD WITH THE DEVELOPER TO BRING IT UP TO STANDARD IN 2002 AS PART OF AN ADDITIONAL SEGMENT OF A SUBDIVISION THAT WAS TO BE BUILT; HOWEVER, THAT SECTION OF THE SUBDIVISION WAS NEVER PLATTED NOR CONSTRUCTED SO IT

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WAS AN UNFORTUNATE SITUATION LEFT UNADDRESSED.

>>COMMISSIONER INGALSBE: PART OF MY MOTION THAT I AM CLEAR THAT IT WAS BUILT AS A COUNTY ROAD IN ORDER FOR US TO TAKE IT INTO OUR CUNTY SYSTEM IF THAT IS CORRECT.

IS THAT CORRECT? >> THAT'S CORRECT.

>>JUDGE BECERRA: ADDED TO THE MOTION AND STILL SECONDED.

PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. >>COMMISSIONER SHELL: YES.

[Item I. 3. Discussion and possible action to call for a public hearing on February 14, 2023 to establish a 3-way stop location on Longbow Lane at the intersection with Whistling Wind Lane in the Woodcreek North subdivision. S H E LL/B OR C H E R D IN G]

>>COMMISSIONER SMITH: YES. >>COMMISISONER COHEN: YES.

>>JUDGE BECERRA: I-3.

>>DR. CARDENAS: I-3, DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO CALL FOR A PUBLIC HEARING IF HE CAN 14, 2023 TO ESTABLISH A THREE-WAY STOP LOCATION ON LONGBOW LANE AT THE INTERSECTION OF WHISTLING WIND LANE IN WOODCREEK NORTH SUBDIVISION.

[Item I. 4. Discussion and possible action to rescind the previous court action from December 6, 2022 establishing a 3-way stop location on Longbow Lane at Indian Princess in Woodcreek North subdivision. S H E LL/B OR C H E R D IN G]

>>COMMISSIONER SHELL: YES. >>COMMISISONER COHEN: YES.

>>COMMISSIONER INGALSBE: YES. >>COMMISSIONER SMITH: YES.

>>JUDGE BECERRA: PREVIOUS COURT ACTION FROM DECEMBER 6, 2022 OF LOCATION ON LONG BOW LANE AND INDIAN PRINCESS IN WOODCREEK

NORTH SUBDIVISION. >> SO MOVED.

>> SECOND. >> JUDGE, THIS ITEM IS CONNECTED TO THE PREVIOUS ITEM. WE HAD A HEARING AND DID A TRAFFIC STUDY OUT THERE AND WENT OUT TO AND MADE THE LOCATION OF THAT SIGN A BIT CONFUSING AND WOULD MAKE IT HARD TO SEE SO OUR STAFF WENT TO REANALYZE EVERYTHING AND FOUND AN INTERSECTION IS WITH I IS DOWN THE STREET WHICH THEY FEEL IS BETTER SUITED FOR THAT AND I HATE TO WASTE THE COURT'S TIME, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO RESCIND THAT FIRST ONE AND REPLACE IT WITH A

NEW SIGN AT OUR NEXT -- >>JUDGE BECERRA: DOING IT RIGHT IT THE BEST WAY, COMMISSIONER, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

>>COMMISISONER COHEN: YES. >>COMMISSIONER SHELL: YES.

[Item I. 5. Discussion and possible action to accept the maintenance bond rider extension from Lockhart Excavation, LLC until April 14, 2023 for Heaton Hollow subd. - Maintenance bond #61BSBID3153 in the amount of $80,548.01. S H E LL/B OR C H E R D IN G]

>>COMMISSIONER SMITH: YES. >>COMMISSIONER INGALSBE: YES.

>>JUDGE BECERRA: YES. H-5 -- I-5.

>>DR. CARDENAS: DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO ACCEPT THE MAINTENANCE BOND RIDER EXTENSION FROM LOCKHART EXCAVATION FOR HEATON HOLLOW SUBDIVISION MAINTENANCE BOND 61BSBID 3153 IN

THE AMOUNT OF $80,A 548.01. >> SO MOVED.

>> SECOND. >>COMMISSIONER SMITH: YES.

>>COMMISSIONER SHELL: YES. >>COMMISISONER COHEN: YES.

[Item I. 6. Discussion and possible action to call for a public hearing on February 14, 2023 to establish a No Dumping zone on Old Bastrop Hwy on the cul-du-sac south of Redwood Road. IN GA LS B E /B OR C H E R D IN G]

>>COMMISSIONER INGALSBE: YES. >>JUDGE BECERRA: YES.

I-6. >>DR. CARDENAS: I-6, DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO CALL FOR A PUBLIC HEARING ON FEBRUARY 14, 2023, TO ESTABLISH A NO DUMPING ZONE ON OLD BASTROPY HIGHWAY

SOUTH OF REDWOOD ROAD. >> MOTION.

>> SECOND. >>JUDGE BECERRA: CALL THE ROLL.

>>COMMISSIONER INGALSBE: YES. >>COMMISISONER COHEN: YES.

[Item J. 1. PLN-2116-NP; Discussion and possible action regarding the Rocky Creek Estates, Preliminary Plan. S H E LL/P A C H E C O]

>>COMMISSIONER SHELL: YES. >>COMMISSIONER SMITH: YES.

>>JUDGE BECERRA: YES. J-1.

>>DR. CARDENAS: J-1, PLN-2116-NP DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION REGARDING RO ROCKY CREEK ESTATES.

>> SO MOVED. >> SECOND.

>> PROPOSED TWO-LOT SUBDIVISION ACROSS 12 ACRES LOCATED ALONG THE LOOP IN THE CITY OF SAN MARCOS AND PRECINCT 3.

WATER WILL BE ACCOMPLISHED BY INDIVIDUAL PRIVATE WELL AND OR RAINSHOWER COLLECTION SYSTEMS. AND WASTEWATER WILL BE ACCOMPLISHED BY INDIVIDUAL ON-SITE SEWAGE FACILITIES.