[F3. Ceremonial Swearing In of all newly and re-elected officials to Hays County offices; and approval and acceptance of official bonds for each office]

>> OPEN K-3 PLEASE. >> K-3, CEREMONIAL SWEARING-IN.

F-3. CEREMONIAL SWEARING IN OF ALL NEWLY AND REELECTED OFFICIALS TO HAYES COUNTY OFFICES AND APPROVAL AND ACCEPTANCE OF OFFICIAL BOUNDS FOR EACH OFFICE.

>> SO MOVED. >> SECOND.

>> OKAY, I THINK EVERYONE'S ALREADY BEEN SWORN IN.

JUST TO BE CLEAR AM I RIGHT? >> I BELIEVE SO JUDGE.

YOU KNOW, THIS IS JUST SOMETHING THAT WE PUT ON THE AGENDA.

THE FIRST TUESDAY OF THE YEAR. AND SO JUST WANTED TO GIVE THE OPPORTUNITY IN THE EVENTS WE WANTED TO HAVE THIS, IF NOT WE

CAN JUST MOVE ON. >> AND ALSO IT IS A PERFECT OPPORTUNITY FOR US. THOSE THAT CAME FOR THIS AGENDA ITEM RAISE YOUR HAND IF YOU WANT TO BE SOMETHING A PART OF IT UNIQUELY BEAUTIFULLY DONE, YOU'RE NOT GETTING SWORN IN

HARVEY. >> I SHOULD BE.

>> YOU RUN, YOU GOT TO DO THE LEGWORK.

LET'S GET A PICTURE OF THE NEW -- WE COME TOGETHER AND TAKE

A PICTURE. >> ALSO I HAVE PAPERWORK THAT NEEDS TO BE SIGNED. BEFORE PEOPLE LEAVE.

>> AROUND WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO.

I TELL WHAT YOU HOLD ON GUYS, I'M SORRY, IT'S MY FAULT, JUST PAUSE FOR ONE TINY SECOND. LET'S DO THIS.

WE NEED TO VOTE ON THE BONDS, WE NEED TO SIGN THE PAPERWORK AND THEN DO THE PICTURE. GIV ME ONE TINY SECOND.

SO THE MOTION IS TO APPROVE THE ACCEPTANCE OF THE OFFICIAL BONDS FOR EVERYONE THAT'S BEEN NEWLY ELECTED AND I THINK THAT'S PART OF THE MOTION, IT'S BEEN MOTION AND SECONDED SO PLEASE CALL THE

ROLL ON THAT. >> COMMISSIONER SMITH, YES, COMMISSIONER SHELL, COMMISSIONER COHEN, YES, COMMISSIONER INGALSBE, YES, AROUND JUDGE BECERRA.

YES. BEFORE YOU LEAVE WE NEED YOUR PAPERS, THEY NEED TO BE SIGNED TO DR. CARDENAS.

COME ON UP FOR YOUR PICTURE, LET'S DO THIS.

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>> HERE WE GO, ONE TWO THREE CONGRATULATIONS.

THANK YOU. THREE TWO ONE.

>> ALL RIGHT THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH.

[K3. Discussion and possible action to authorize the Criminal District Attorney's Office to hire the First Assistant District Attorney slot 0780-001 at the 25th percentile, and three Attorney V positions 0784-003, 004 & 005 at the 19.38th percentile; authorize a $10,000.00 annual salary increase for two Court Chief Attorney V positions 0784-001 and 013; and a $400.00 monthly salary stipend for one Attorney V position 0784-007 effective January 1, 2023]

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>> K-3. DISCUSSION AND POSSIBILITY ACTION TO AUTHORIZE THE CRIMINAL DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE TO HIRE THE FIRST ASSISTANT DIRECTOR ATTORNEY SLOT 0780-001 AT THE 25TH PERCENTILE AND THE THREE ATTORNEY V POSITIONS 0784-003, 004 AND 005 AT THE 19.88 PERCENTILE, NOR A 10,000 ANNUAL SALARY INCREASE FOR THE COURT CHIEF ATTORNEY V.

>> SO MOVED. >> SERK.

>> THANK YOU WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND.

AND I'VE ASKED OUR D.A. MR. HIG INS TO BE HERE SO I'D LIKE TO ASK HIM TO PLEASE COME TO THE PODIUM AND GIVE US SOME

INFORMATION. >> JUDGE BECERRA, HONORABLE MEMBERS OF THE COURT, AM I AUDIBLE HERE? AFTER THE ELECTION, AS IS VERY COMMON, IN DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICES AROUND THE STATE, THERE ARE SOME PEOPLE WHO DEPARTED AND THEREFORE SOME POSITIONS NEEDED TO BE FILLED.

AS I BEGAN THE TRANSITION, IT BECAME VERY CLEAR THAT WE NEEDED TO HIRE 14 ATTORNEYS. THIS INCLUDES TEN POSITIONS MADE VACANT DURING THE TRANSITION AND FOUR NEW POSITIONS.

THAT'S PREFATORY TO WHAT I'M ASKING FOR TODAY.

BUT I WANT YOU TO UNDERSTAND THE SCALE OF WHAT THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE FACES ON THIS MANY MY FIRST MORNING IN OFFICE.

WE LOST SEVERAL SPIRNSED FELONY PROSECUTORS TO INCLUDE COURT CHIEFS, STARTING TODAY THERE ARE SIX DISTRICT COURTS HEARING FELONY CASES. THEY URGE HAVE THREE, THE OFFICE

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ONLY HAD SEVEN FELONY PROSECUTORS TO DO THE JOB THAT WOULD NORMALLY BE DONE BY 18 EXPERIENCED FELONY ATTORNEYS.

FIVE ATTORNEYS HAVE BEEN HIRED. THE FIRST ASSISTANT MR. GREG COX WHO IS HERE BEHIND ME, TWO COURT CHIEFS AND TWO FELONY TRIAL ATTORNEYS. THERE IS ONE OUTSTANDING OFFER IN MORNING THERE A COURT CHIEF AND WE JUST HAVEN'T HEARD AN ANSWER YET. WE WILL STILL NEED TO HIRE NINE ATTORNEYS EIGHT OF THOSE BEING CRIMINAL PROSECUTORS.

DURING OUR RECRUITING EFFORTS WE TRIED TO FIND EXPERIENCED PROSECUTORS AND SPOKE TO MORE THAN 20 PEOPLE FROM 7 D.A.'S OFFICE AROUND THE STATE AND THE PRIVATE SECTOR.

MOST OF THE PEOPLE WHO TURNED US DOWN CITED LOW SALARY AS THE REASON. IN ORDER TO ATTRACT A FIRST ASSISTANT AND THE TWO NEW FELONY CHIEFS, THAT'S NOT TRUE.

IN ORDER TO ATTRACT THE FIRST ASSISTANT WE'VE HAD TO MAKE AN OFFER IN THE 25TH P PERCENTILE. THE MONEY THAT COMES, THE MONEY THAT WILL GO TO THOSE NEW ARE SALARY SAVINGS IN THE OFFICE.

WE ARE NOT ASKING THE COURT FOR NEW FUNDING.

WE ARE ASKING THE COURT TO PERMIT US TO USE MONEY THAT IS IN THE OFFICE TO PAY NEW ATTORNEYS AND PEOPLE THAT WE ARE ELEVATING TO CHIEF, THIS ADDITIONAL AMOUNT OF MONEY IN ORDER TO MAKE US MARGINALLY COMPETITIVE WITH THE REGIONAL DISTRICT ADISTRICT ATTORNEY'S WY COMPETITIVE I DO NOT MEAN WE ARE OUTBIDDING OTHER OFFICES, I MEAN WE ARE BRINGING OUR OFFICE NEAR TO THAT LINE AND THE REST OF THE ATTRACTION IS TO WORK IN THIS OFFICE. WITH THE ONE COURT CHIEF THAT REMAINED AND ANOTHER ATTORNEY 5 THAT HAS AGREED TO ACCEPT THE ROLE OF INTERIM COURT CHIEF WE WANT TO PAY THEM THE SAME AS THE NEWLY HIRED COURT CHIEFS TO AVOID THE SALARY COMPRESSION THAT TAKES PLACE WHEN YOU MUST MAKE -- YOU MUST PAY NEW HIRES MORE THAN YOUR DEDICATED ATTORNEYS THAT ARE ALREADY IN THE OFFICE. THAT SHOULD JUST SAY WE DO NOT WANT TO PAY OUR NEW HIRES $10,000 MORE THAN PEOPLE WHO HAVE ALREADY WORKED IN THE OFFICE WHO ARE DEDICATED ENOUGH TO REMAIN DURING THE TRANSITION AND WHO ARE GOING TO STAY ON AND MAKE THIS DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE A BETTER PLACE TO WORK.

WE HAVE ANOTHER ATTORNEY 5 THAT HAS AGREED TO SERVE AS ACTING CHIEF AND WE MAY WELT BE COMING BACK SOON TO REQUEST A -- PERMISSION FOR A SIMILAR INCREASE FOR HER IF THE DECISION IS MADE TO MAKE HER A FULL COURT CHIEF RATHER THAN JUST SERVING IN AN ACTING CAPACITY. I WOULD ALSO NOTIFY YOU THAT WE HAVE VACANT STAFF POSITIONS APART FROM THE NINE ATTORNEYS WE HAVE YET TO HIRE. AND THAT'S TWO LEGAL ASSISTANTS, ONE INVESTIGATOR, AND THREE VICTIM ASSISTANCE COORDINATORS.

IF THE COURT HAS ANY QUESTIONS I CAN ENTERTAIN THEM NOW.

AND IF I CAN'T, MR. COX CERTAINLY CAN.

>> BEAUTIFUL AND THANK YOU. WE'LL START WITH COMMISSIONER

SMITH. >> CHAIR, I WOULD BE -- I'LL JUST BE VERY UP FRONT AND HONEST.

I WOULD BE SUPPORTIVE OF THE CHANGES IN SALARY, JUST BECAUSE I KNOW THAT WE UNDERPAY. AND I'VE BEEN WAITING, I KNOW THAT THE REST OF THE COURT AND OUR WHOLE COUNTY HAVE BEEN WAITING ON OUR SALARY SURVEY AND THE RESULTS FROM THAT.

BUT THE ONE THING THAT I WOULD ASK IS WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT THESE, THE TWO $10,000 COURT INCREASES AND THE $4800 SALARY STIPEND, INSTEAD OF DOING STIPENDS, INSTEAD BUILDING THAT INTO A SALARY BASE WOULD BE MORE SUFFICIENT, MAYBE THERE'S A -- AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT PERCENTILE THAT WOULD PUT THEM AT.

I DOUBT WHETHER IT WOULD BE OVER THE 25TH.

SO I WOULD THINK IF WE COULD MAYBE ADJUST THAT, IT MAY EVEN COME OUT TO BE MORE. IF IT WAS AT THE 25TH PERCENTILE BUT I WOULD BE SUPPORTIVE OF BUILDING THAT INTO YOUR ACTUAL SALARY BASE SO YOU ARE NOT ASKING THATTEN ON AN ANNUALIZED BASIS TO REDO THAT STY MEND.

BHAW ARE ASKING FOR IS ONE YEAR OF STIPEND.

IF WE ARE GOING TO RETAIN THOSE PEOPLE, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE THE CONSISTENT, IN THAT SENSE. I SEE YOU NODDING BACK THERE YES

YES YES. >> MAY I RESPOND BRIEFLY?

>> SURE. >> I AGREE THE SALARY SHOULD BE STRUCTURED THAT WAY. WE SHOULDN'T BE RESORTING TO A STIPEND. HOWEVER I WILL TELL YOU THIS STIPEND IS NOT AN INNOVATION. THIS IS WHAT HAS BEEN OCCURRING OVER THE YEARS. THIS IS WHAT I INTEND THIS STIPEND STRUCTURE. THAT THE ADDITIONAL MONEY PER MONTH. WE ARE NOT INNOVATING THAT, THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE INHERITED. SO I WOULD DISAGREE IN OUR NEXT

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ANNUAL BUDGET I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE SALARY STRUCTURED SIMPLY AS A SALARY RATHER THAN A STIPEND.

>> I THINK WE CAN CLEAN THAT UP TODAY AND DO THAT FOR YOU IF THAT'S WHAT YOUR PREFERENCE IS. AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT'S WHAT YOUR PREFERENCE IS BUT IF IT IS I WOULD PROPOSE DOING THAT

FOR YOU. >> I WOULD ASK FOR A LITTLE BIT OF TIME TO DISCUSS THAT BEFORE I TELL YOU THAT'S MY PREFERENCE.

I'M ATTRACTED TO THAT IDEA BUT I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE CONS ARE

AT THIS POINT. >> SURE.

DO WE HAVE ANY INPUT FROM H RMPT WAS MY OTHER,L AND BUDGET, THAT

WAS MY OTHER QUESTION. >> THANK YOU.

WHEN DEPARTMENTS HAVE ASKED FOR SALARY EXCEPTIONS WOULD I ASK THAT THE COURT CONSIDER HALTING SALARY EXCEPTIONS RIGHT NOW.

THERE IS AN AGENDA ITEM K-1 I BELIEVE THAT IS ON FOR DISCUSSION IN THAT REGARD. WE ARE CLOSE WITH THE SALARY SURVEY. WE HAVE SOME ADJUSTMENTS STILL TO MAKE WITH MAG, BEFORE WE CAN COME OUT WITH DEPARTMENT HEADS AND ELECTED OFFICIALS AND SHARE SOME OF THOSE PRELIMINARY REPORTS. WE ANTICIPATE FLESHING OUT THOSE ADJUSTMENTS IN THE NEXT WEEK OR SO.

BUT WE'RE NOT WHERE WE CAN DISCUSS WHAT THEIR INITIAL RECOMMENDATIONS ARE OR ANY DETAIL ABOUT THE SURVEY.

SO THE ASK IS NOT TO SAY THAT THE CANDIDATES THAT D.A. HIGGINS HAS SELECTED OR THAT THE CURRENT EMPLOYEES ARE IN THE OF VALUE FOR THAT SALARY THAT IS BEING REQUESTED BUT WE'RE NOT SURE HOW THOSE EXCEPTIONS WILL PLAY OUT IN A NEW SALARY PLAN AND WHAT ADJUSTMENTS MIGHT NEED TO BE CONSIDERED AFTER THAT PLAN IS

HOPEFULLY ADOPTED. >> SO WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS WHATEVER ADJUSTMENTS WE MAKE TODAY MAY CHANGE IN TWO WEEKS.

>> THEY COULD CHANGE OR THEY COULD REMAIN THE SAME.

I DON'T SEE THE COURT COMING BACK AND SAYING OOPS, WE WENT TOO HIGH. LET'S BACK YOU DOWN A LITTLE BIT. THAT WOULD NOT BE MY RECOMMENDATION AT ALL. BUT THE WAY THIS SALARY PLAN OR SALARY STUDY IS SHAKE OUT IS IN SOME DEGREE GOING TO BE BASED ON TENURE WITH THE JOB OR WITH THE COUNTY.

AND WHEN YOU BRING ON A BRAND-NEW EMPLOYEE AND PUSH THEM OUT SO FAR IN THE RANGE THEN WHAT DOES THAT DO TO CURRENT EMPLOYEES? AND D.A. HIGGINS HAS ADDRESSED THAT BY ASKING THE CURRENT EMPLOYEES IN THE SPECTACULAR INR

POSITION TO BE ADJUSTED ALSO. >> I HAVE CHANGED, I'LL BE HONEST WITH YOU I'VE CHANGED. IT'S BEEN TOO LONG AND I'M AT A POINT WHERE WE HAVE DEPARTMENT HEADS WHO NEED THE ASSISTANCE

BECAUSE WE'RE LOSING EMPLOYEES. >> ABSOLUTELY.

WE'LL FIGURE OUT A WAY TO ADDRESS THOSE SITUATIONS SHOULD SALARY ADJUSTMENTS COME ABOUT. WE'LL FIGURE OUT A WAY TO HANDLE

THOSE IN THE STUDY ANALYSIS. >> OKAY.

THANK YOU MA'AM. >> COMMISSIONER SHELL.

>> I STILL ASKED ABOUT THE BUDGET.

>> I WAS TRYING TO BE RESPECTFUL ABOUT IT, BUT I'D LIKE TO INSTEAD OF DANCING ALL THE PEOPLE THROUGH PODIUM, I'D LIKE TO FINISH THE LINEUP WHILE OUR D.A -- I GOT A WAY TO HANDLE IT A LITTLE MORE EFFECTIVELY. THANK YOU.

IF YOU HAVE COMMENTS FESTIVAL FOR OUR D.A. AND WE'LL BRING SHER 80 BACK TO SPEAK, ET CETERA.

>> ANY ADDITIONAL ON MY QUESTION?

>> RIGHT. I THINK THERE MIGHT BE A SYNTHESIS TO DEAL WITH MY DIRE NEEDS WHICH IS AS TO THE STRUCTURE OF THE -- RELATING TO THE STIPEND IN SALARY, I BELIEVE THAT'S SOMETHING THAT CAN WAIT FOR THE SALARY SURVEY TO BE RETURNED AND STUDIED. HOWEVER, AS A MATTER OF PUBLIC SAFETY, I HAVE TO CHOOSE THE RIGHT VERB HERE, DON'T I? I HAVE TO ASK MOST ASSERTIVELY, THAT MY PROPOSAL BE APPROVED TODAY. BECAUSE FRANKLY, PEOPLE HAVE ALREADY ACCEPTED JOBS WITH THOSE OFFERS, BECAUSE WE HAVE THE SALARY SAVINGS IN OUR OFFICE TO COVER IT.

AND THEY'RE SITTING IN THEIR CHAIRS THIS MORNING.

THEY'RE IN COURT RIGHT NOW HANDLING CRIMINAL CASES ON OUR DOCKETS. AND I NEED FOR THOSE OFFERS TO BE MADE, TO BE APPROVED, IN ORDER TO AVOID A TRUE DISASTER

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IN THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.

THAT WE REALLY NEED THE ATTORNEYS.

>> I COMPLETELY AGREE WITH YOU. THAT WORRIES ME, THOUGH.

I MEAN -- >> WHICH?

>> WHAT YOU SAID IS VERY CONCERNING TO ME THAT WE'VE MADE OFFERS BEFORE COMING TO COURT FOR APPROVALS FOR THE SALARY

RATE. >> IT HAD BEEN OUR UNDERSTANDING THAT BECAUSE THE MONEY IS IN OUR OFFICE AND WE WERE NOT ASKING FOR NEW FUNDS THAT WE WERE AUTHORIZED TO GO AHEAD AND MAKE

THOSE OFFERS. >> THAT'S A CONCERN.

I'M SUPPORTIVE OF YOUR REQUEST TODAY.

>> I UNDERSTAND. >> BUT I WOULD JUST SAY IN THE FUTURE IF WE HAVE OFFERS, WE NEED TO ESPECIALLY IF WE'RE CHANGING THE RATES, THAT WE'VE NEVER HAD, I DON'T KNOW THAT WE HAVE EVER OFFERED A JOB TO SOMEBODY AT A HIGHER RATE AND TO COME TO COURT AFTER THEY'VE ACCEPTED THE JOB TO SAY WE'RE GOING TO DO THAT. I'M FLIL SUPPORTIVE OF WHAT YOUR REQUEST IS TODAY BUT I WOULD IN THE FUTURE ENCOURAGE YOU TO

SUPPORT IT. >> NOW THAT I'M IN OFFICE AND HAVE ACCESS AND HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO THIS I CAN PROMISE YOU WE WILL BE MUCH MORE PREPARED FOR THE MOMENT AS WE GO FORWARD.

ATTORNEYS TO RECRUIT AND HIRE. AND ALL OF THOSE OFFERS WILL HAVE BEEN VETTED BY THE COURT, BY YOUR COURT BEFORE WE ISSUE --

>> ONE OF THE BIGGEST CONCERNS I HAVE IS ONE YOU JUST MENTIONED, I DON'T WANT TO SAY CASUALLY, BUT AS YOU WERE TALKING A MINUTE AGO OUR VICTIM ADVOCACY POSITIONS THERE ARE ONES THAT

ARE VERY, VERY IMPORTANT TO ME. >> YES THEY ARE.

>> AROUND AS WE LOOK AT THOSE SALARIES BEFORE Y'ALL COME TO COURT AND ONCE THE SURVEY COMES OUT I WOULD LOVE TO SIT DOWN AND TALK TO YOU ABOUT WHAT THOSE DUTIES ARE WHAT THE ACTUAL PAY NEEDS TO BE AND HOW WE CAN RECRUIT GOOD PEOPLE FOR THAT.

>> I WOULD LOVE THAT SIR. >> THANK YOU.

>> COMMISSIONER SHELL. >> I UNDERSTAND WHAT MR. HIGGINS JUST SAID, UNDERSTAND THE POSITION HE'S IN AS SORT OF UNIQUE WHEN YOU HAVE NEW OFFICIALS COMING IN AND OFFICES THAT WERE ALREADY HAVING TURNOVER PRIOR TO THAT AND AGAIN, YOU HAVE THE TURNOVER THAT COMES WHEN AN OFFICE CHANGES HANDS. THAT OFFICE HAS HAD A PROBLEM RETAINING QUALIFIED ATTORNEYS, AND I DON'T WANT US TO GET INTO A SITUATION WHERE WE CAN'T ADEQUATELY STAFF OR MR. HIGGINS CAN'T ADEQUATELY STAFF HIS OFFICE.

I DO HAVE AN ITEM THAT COMES ON LATER TO TRY THE GIVE SOME DIRECTION TO OUR HR DEPARTMENT AND EVERYONE ELSE IN THE COUNTY OF WHEN WE CAN EXPECT THE STUDY TO BE DONE AND WHAT WE SHOULD OR SHOULD NOT DO IN THAT INTERIM BUT I DO THINK SOME OF THESE NEW OFFICIALS COMING INTO OFFICE HE WHERE THEY HAVE THESE TYPES OF VACANCIES PROBABLY NEEDS TO BE DONE, BEFORE THAT CAN BE DONE.

>> WELL SAID MOST URGENTLY. >> COMMISSIONER COHEN.

>> AS A NEWLY ELECTED OFFICIAL, I HAVE HAD TO TURN AWAY TWO VERY QUALIFIED PEOPLE AT MY OFFICE BECAUSE OF THE SALARY.

SO I, YOU KNOW, BELIEVE THAT YOUR OFFICE IS VERY, VERY IMPORTANT TO THE PUBLIC SAFETY AND WE NEED TO HIT THE GROUND RUNNING LIKE YOU'RE DOING NOW. SO I SUPPOR WHAT YOU'RE ASKING.

>> COMMISSIONER INGALSBE. >> JUDGE I DON'T KNOW THAT I CAN SAY ANYTHING DIFFERENTLY THAN WHAT MY COLLEAGUES HAVE STATED.

I KNOW AS YOU BECOME MORE FAMILIAR MR. HIGGINS WITH THE OFFICE, I KNOW THAT YOU'LL REACH OUT MORE TO SHERRY MILLER AND HUMAN RESOURCES OFFICE AND MAKING SURE WE'RE FOLLOWING THE PROCESS. BUT I AM SUPPORTIVE ALSO OF YOUR

REQUEST TODAY. >> DR. CARDENAS PLEASE CALL THE

ROLL. >> COMMISSIONER COHEN, YES, COMMISSIONER INGALSBE, YES, COMMISSIONER SMITH, YES,

[K5. Discussion and possible action to authorize a salary exception at the 50th percentile for the Full Time Deputy Fire Marshal, slot 0984-002 and increase the Part Time Deputy Fire Marshal, slot 0984-001 to 24 hours a week at $25.00 per hour and amend the budget accordingly. BECERRA/MIKE JONES Click to View]

COMMISSIONER SHELL, YES. JUDGE BECERRA.

YES. >> PLEASE GO TO WORK.

PLEASE OPEN K-5. >> DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO AUTHORIZE THE SALARY EXCEPTION AT THE 50TH PERCENTILE FOR THE FULL TIME DEPUTY FIRE MARSHAL, SLOT 0984-002, AND INCREASE THE PART TIME DEPUTY FIRE MARSHAL AMEND

THE BUDGET ACCORDINGLY. >> SO MOVED.

>> SECOND. >> WE HAVE A MOTION.

WE HAVE A SECOND. ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT ONE? KIND OF THE SAME STUFF. PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

>> COMMISSIONER SHELTON, YES, COMMISSIONER SMITH, YES, COMMISSIONER COHEN, YES, COMMISSIONER INGALSBE, YES.

[K6. Discussion and possible action to authorize a salary exception at the 50th percentile for the Bookkeeper, slot 0450-001 in the Courts Division at the Hays County Clerk's Office effective Jan 9, 2023]

JUDGE BECERRA. YES.

>> AND 6. >> DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO AUTHORIZE A SALARY EXCEPTION AT THE 50TH PERCENTILE FOR THE BOOK COOPER SLOT 0450-001.

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>> MOVED. >> SECONDED.

>> QUESTIONS? CALL THE ROLL.

>> THIS WAS ALREADY APPROVED FOR ANOTHER CANDIDATE WHO DECLINED

EARLIER. >> PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

>> COMMISSIONER SMITH. YES.

COMMISSIONER SHELL. YES, COMMISSIONER INGALSBE, YES, COMMISSIONER COHEN, YES. AND JUDGE BECERRA.

[CONSENT ITEMS]

>> YES, COURT MEMBERS IT IS UP TO YOU TO HELP THIS NEXT DIRECTION. I CAN GO THROUGH CONSENT CALENDAR OR IF YOU WANT TO SCHERY PICK? OKAY. OPEN CONSENT ITEMS.

>> G-1, APPROVE THE PAYMENT OF COUNTY INVOICES, 2, APPROVE THE PAYMENT OF JUROR CHECKS, 3, PAYMENT OF UNITED HEALTHY CARE CLAIMS. 4, APPROVE COMMISSIONER ESCORT MINUTES NOVEMBER 22. 5, APPROVE THE PAYMENT OF THE JANUARY 15, 2023, PERIL DISBURSEMENTS.

6, APPROVE AND CONFIRM THE APPOINTMENT OF STEPHEN HMCR AS DEPUTY CONSTABLE IMAILIVE IN HAYES COUNTY, 7, AUTHORIZE THE EXECUTION OF DOCUMENTS RELATED TO THE B RMPTIC GRANT.

G 8, APPROVAL AUTO PAYMENTS. G 9, AUTHORIZE THE COUNTY JUDGE TO EXECUTE A CONTRACT AMENDMENT. 10, APPROVE THE NOMINATION OF COUNTY JUDGE BECERRA, TO THE TEXAS CONFERENCE OF URBAN COUNTIES POLICY COMMITTEE FOR2022-23 BY ENYU BIENNIUM.

11, APPROVE RENULL OF RFP 2020-PO 1 HVAC.

12, APPROVE SPECIFICATIONS FOR IFB 2023-B 12 R MARCH 12TH.

13, APPROVE SPECIFICATION OF IFB 2023-B 11, SOLICIT FOR BIDS AND

ADVERTISE. >> SO MOVED.

>> SERK. >> WE HAVE A FEW INDIVIDUALS SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON AGENDA ITEMS, WE WILL BEGIN WITH G-6 BUT DID YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT YOUR TOTAL MARISOL?

>> I HAVE THE TOTAL FOR G-6, AND I WOULD ALSO MAKE NOTE THAT WE DO NOT HAVE JUROR CHECKS ITEM NUMBER 2 AS WE ARE GOING THROUGH

THE TRANSITION. >> THANK YOU MARISOL FOR ADDING.

FIRST UP TO SPEAK ON G-6 WILL BE MR. RODRIGO AMAYA.

>> JUDGE COURT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

ON G-6, JUST WONDERING, AND I REALLY WANT AN ANSWER, THAT I CAN LEAVE TODAY WITH AGAIN NEWLY ELECTED COMMISSIONER COHEN, COUNTY JUDGE, APPRECIATE ALL YOUR EFFORTS.

BUT WE NEED TO SET A NEW ROUTE. JUST ASKING AND JUST SIGNING A RUBBER STAMPING, IT DOESN'T WORK.

I WANT TO KNOW HOW MANY DEPUTIES DOES PRECINCT 1 HAVE? I WANT TO KNOW, YOU KNOW, LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE CHAPTER 86, SUBCHAPTER 86-011, THAT IS NOT ENOUGH OF A JUSTIFICATION ROUSING YOUR POSITION TO VOTE GIVEN TO THEM.

SO NOTHING AGAINST THE INDIVIDUAL WHO IS GOING TO BE APPOINTED, IT IS NOT HIS FAULT. HE'S NEW TO THIS.

I AIN'T NEW TO THIS. BUT I WANT TO KNOW BECAUSE THE CONSTABLE FOR PRECINCT 1 I HARDLY SEE HIM IN UNIFORM.

HE IS WORKING SECURITY UP IN AUSTIN.

ALWAYS AT BARBECUE FUNCTIONS. THERE IS NO LEADERSHIP IN THAT OFFICE, YOU KNOW. I REALLY DON'T EVEN KNOW THE INDIVIDUAL, SO BEFORE Y'ALL SIGN OFF ON IT, I WOULD EXPECT FOR Y'ALL TO DEMAND MORE FOR THE JUSTIFICATION.

THE WAY I HAVE SEEN THIS AS MANY DEPUTIES THAT HAVE BEEN APPOINTED TO THAT PRECINCT 1 WHAT ARE THEY BUILDING, A MINI POLICE DEPARTMENT? THEY HAVE AN EX-SHERIFF WITH 20 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE. YOU SHOULDN'T HAVE THAT IMPACT, THAT INDIVIDUAL SHOULD BRING SOMETHING SO THAT WE CAN SEE,

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SOMETHING REALLY NOTICEABLE IMPROVEMENTS IN THE WAY THEY DO THINGS. I HAVEN'T SEEN ANYTHING.

AND I HOPE YOU ARE WITH ME ON THIS AND I HOPE -- I KNOW THE JUDGE IS AND SOME OF THESE OTHER FORECAST BUT I HAVE QUITE A BIT OF EXPERIENCE IN THE LAW ENFORCEMENT BUSINESS AND PLEASE VOTE AGAINST THIS, NOT AGAINST THE INDIVIDUAL, BUT I MEAN I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY DEPUTIES THIS ENJOY HAS AND I WOULD REALLY LIKE AN EXPLANATION THAT I WOULD BE HAPPY WITH.

THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU SIR.

NEXT UP TO SPEAK ON THIS AGENDA ITEM IS MR. DAN LYON.

>> THANK YOU JUDGE, SIR, I ECHO WHAT MR. AMAYA'S JUST SAID.

THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE PERSPECTIVE CANDIDATE FOR DEPUTY. IT HAS TO DO WITH WHAT I'VE HEARD AND WHAT I'VE SEEN. I'VE SEEN PICTURES OF CONSTABLES CARS BEING IN PLACES THEY SHOULDN'T HAVE BEEN AT VARIOUS TIMES. ALSO, THE LAST TIME I HEARD A NEW DEPUTY REQUESTED WAS WHEN JUDGE BURT COBB WAS ON THE BENCH AND HE SAID, WHY, DO YOU NEED ANOTHER PERSON TO DRINK COFFEE WITH YOU AT CABELLA'S? THAT IS LITERALLY WHAT HE SAID.

AND IT GOT A FEW CHUCKLES BUT YOU KNOW AS THE BIBLE SAYS FROM THE NOWT, THE HEART SPEAKS. -- FROM THE MOUTH THE HARD SPEAKS. I THINK WE SHOULD GO SLOWLY ON THIS AND REEVALUATE WHETHER WE DO NEED AN EXTRA DEPUTY.

YOU KNOW I MEAN WE CAN ALL DO ALL THE TRUISMS THAT WE NEED MORE LAW ENFORCEMENT, THIS AND THAT AND THE OTHER THING BUT MY QUESTION IS: WHAT ARE LAW ENFORCEMENT PEOPLE DOING NOW, YOU KNOW, THE ONES THAT WE GOT NOW ARE THEY MAKING BEST USE OF THEIR TIME? AND I MYSELF DO NOT KNOW WHETHER THEY NEED ANOTHER DEPUTY. I'M JUST QUOTING PEOPLE AND TALKING ABOUT MY OBSERVATIONS. AND I THINK WE COULD LOOK AT THIS A WHILE LONGER BEFORE WE MADE A DECISION.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> THANK YOU SIR.

COMMISSIONER INGALSBE. >> JUDGE, I WILL ASK THAT CONSTABLE PETERSON COME UP AND ANSWER MAYBE SOME OF THESE QUESTIONS. I KNOW THAT THIS PARTICULAR POSITION IS FOR THE BAILIFF POSITION AT THE COUNTY COURT AT LAW. WE ARE SHORT ONE THERE.

AND I KNOW THAT THIS IS SPECIFICALLY FOR THAT.

BUT CONSTABLE IF YOU WOULD THOUGH, ANSWER HOW MANY DEPUTIES DO YOU HAVE AND YOU CAN I GUESS DEPUTIES AND BAILIFFS, IF YOU

CAN JUST SHARE THAT INFORMATION. >> WELL, THE BAILIFF THAT I'M ASKING FOR NOW, IT WOULD MAKE THREE BAILIFFS.

WE HAVE TEN DEPUTY CONSTABLES AT THIS TIME AND THAT ARE DEFINITELY NEEDED. AS I SAID BEFORE WHEN I'VE COME UP HERE TO JUSTIFY WHETHER IT'S GOING TO BE A BAILIFF OR A DEPUTY CONSTABLE, IT'S BEEN JUSTIFIED.

AND THE COURT HAS APPROVED IT, THE COMMISSIONERS HAVE APPROVED IT, THE JUDGE HAS APPROVED IT. AND IF ANYBODY DOUBTS THE OFFICE OF PRECINCT 1 THEN THEY NEED TO COME.

THEY NEED TO COME AND RIDE WITH US.

THEY NEED TO SEE WHAT MY OFFICE IS ALL ABOUT.

WHAT THE COMMUNITY'S OFFICE IS ALL ABOUT.

WE'RE VOTED IN TO TAKE AN OATH TO SERVE AND PROTECT THIS COUNTY. NOT JUST PRECINCT 1 BUT WITHIN THE CITY, TOO. YOU HAVE THESE INDIVIDUALS THAT COME UP HERE, AND THEY TALK ABOUT LAW ENFORCEMENT, OF GETTING RID OF LAW ENFORCEMENT, TALKING ABOUT THE LEADERS OF THIS COUNTY. AND THEY'RE NOT.

THEY'RE NOT LEADERS OF THIS COUNTY.

NOT JUST ABOUT THE LEADERS OF THE COUNTY BUT ABOUT CITIZENS TOO. YOU WANT TO KNOW WHAT MY OFFICE

DOES? >> ADDRESS THE COURT.

>> I AM ADDRESSING THE COURT JUDGE, ADDRESSING TO YOU AND SOME OF YOUR COLLEAGUES. SO I'M ASKING TODAY FOR A BAILIFF. FOR OUR JUDGES, WHICH IS COUNTY COURT AT LAWL. WE'RE IN NEED OF IT.

THERE IS A LOT OF THINGS THAT HAPPEN IN OUR COURTS.

AND THESE BAILIFFS ARE PEACE OFFICERS, JUST LIKE ANY OTHER PEACE OFFICER. I HAVE THE EXPERIENCED OFFICERS AND THEY WORK. WE'RE NOT TWIDDLING OUR FINGERS WHEN WE'RE OUT HERE. WE HAVE A LOT OF PAPERS.

PRECINCT 1 HAVE 95% CIVIL PROCESS PAPERWORK.

YOU WANT TO SEE WHAT WE DO? COME RIDE WITH ONE OF OF OUR

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OFFICERS. COME SIT IN COURT AND SEE THAT WE'RE PROTECTING THE PEOPLE OF HAYES COUNTY.

I HAVE AN OFFICER HERE TODAY THAT'S FULLY TRAINED.

EVERY OFFICER IS FULLY TRAINED IN MY OFFICE.

AND THIS OFFICER TODAY COMES WITH OVER 20 YEARS EXPERIENCE, HIS NAME IS STEPHEN, COME UP STEPHEN.

LET ME GIVE YOU A LITTLE BITE OF LAW ON HIM AS I HAVE BEFORE ON EVERY OFFICER THAT IS IN PRECINCT 1 THAT WORKS FOR THIS

COUNTY. >> CONSTABILITY BEFORE YOU GO INTO THAT, I WANT TO SEE IF YOU HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS BEFORE WE GO ON TO THE NEXT PART OF THAT.

>> JUDGE, I BELIEVE THAT THAT WAS KIND OF THE MAIN QUESTION, WE WANTED TO KNOW HOW MANY DEPUTIES HE HAD IN HIS OFFICE.

THERE'S 10 DEPUTY CONESTABLISHES AND THIS WOULD BE THREE BAILIFFS IF THIS WAS APPROVED. AND SO I THINK CONSTABLE WAS TRYING TO EXPLAIN WHAT HIS OFFICE DOES, AND HAS INVITED ANYONE TO COME AND RIDE OR, YOU KNOW, VISIT HIS OFFICE.

I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S ANYTHING MORE SPECIFIC THAT NEEDS TO BE

ANSWERED. >> THANK YOU.

>> HE'S HERE. >> I HAVE OUR BUDGET OFFICE ASKING TO CONTRIBUTE TO THIS CONVERSATION.

>> JUST A CLARIFICATION. VICKY DRESS, HAYES COUNTY BUDGET OFFICER. THERE IS ACTUALLY 12 POSITIONS, EIGHT OF THOSE ARE SERVING CIVIL PROCESS ET CETERA AND FOUR ARE BAILIFF POSITIONS. THE POSITION THAT HE'S ASKING TO FILL, IS THE VACANT POSITION THAT IS ALREADY BUDGETED.

>> IN THE BAILIFF POSITION? >> YES.

>> I DO BELIEVE VICKY THAT WAS LAST YEAR.

>> YES, SIR. AND HE ACTUALLY HAD A NEW OFFICER APPROVED IN THIS BUDGET CYCLE.

SO THERE MAY BE TEN FILLED POSITION BUT THERE ARE 12 BUDGETED POSITIONS THAT HE HAS AVAILABLE TO HIM.

>> SO THIS WOULD MAYBE 13? >> NO, THIS IS PART OF THE 12.

THIS IS A VACANT POSITION. >> HE SAID HE HAD TEN DEPUTIES AND THIS WOULD MAKE THREE DEPUTIES.

I'M WATCHING THE MATH. >> HE ACTUALLY HAS EIGHT SISTERS THAT SERVE CIVIL PROCESS AND FOUR BAILIFFS.

>> FOUR BAILIFFS. >> ONE OF THOSE BAILIFFS IS FUNDED OUT OF OUR COURTHOUSE THAT YOU ALREADY FUND.

THE REST OF THEM ARE BUDGETED IN THE GENERAL FUND.

>> COMMISSIONER. >> THANKS FOR THE CLARIFICATION.

>> AND BEFORE WE GO ON TO THE NEXT BUN --

>> JUDGE -- >> GIVE ME A SECOND.

YES, SIR. >> EACH TIME THAT THE CONSTABLE HAS BROUGHT SOMEONE FORWARD ONE OF THE THINGS THAT IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT ABOUT BAILIFFS IF THEY DON'T IF YOU LOOK AT THE STATUTORY REQUIREMENTS FOR A BAILIFF IT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT THAN THAT FOR A FULL DEPUTY.

AND CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG HERE CONSTABLE, BUT SOMETIMES IT'S ACTUALLY A LIGHTER REQUIREMENTS FAIRS BACKGROUND FOR A BAILIFF.

AND ALL OF THE DEPUTIES THAT YOU'VE BROUGHT FORWARD HAVE ACTUALLY EXCEEDED THAT AND MET THE REQUIREMENTS OF A FULL DEPUTY GIVEN THEIR BACKGROUND SO THAT'S WHAT I WAS GOING TO

COMMENT. >> THANK YOU COMMISSIONER.

ALL OF OUR DEPUTIES ARE FULLY CERTIFIED DEPUTIES.

THEIR JOBS ARE, THEY CAN BAILIFF, THEY CAN SERVE CIVIL PROCESS PAPERWORK. THEIR QUALIFICATIONS ARE VERY, VERY HIGH. THEY'RE NOT JUST BAILIFFS.

THEY CAN GO OUT AND MAKE ARRESTS.

THEY CAN WRITE CITATION TICKETS, THEY CAN DO INVESTIGATIONS.

IF YOU WANT TO LOOK UP ANY BAILIFF IN PRECINCT 1 AND SEE WHAT THEIR QUALIFICATIONS ARE BE MY GUEST.

OUR RECORDS ARE OPEN TO SEE EXACTLY WHAT QUALIFICATIONS THEY HAVE. THEY ARE VERY HIGH.

THEIR SALARIES ARE ALL DIFFERENT.

JUST DEPENDS ON THE YEARS THAT THEY'VE ACTUALLY BEEN WITH PRECINCT 1. WHEN THEY DO COME OVER, THERE'S A BACKGROUND DONE ON EACH AND EVERY ONE OF THEM, YOU KNOW.

WE'RE NOT LIKE -- WE USED TO BE A POLICE OFFICER AND GOT PUT IN JAIL, THEY ALL HAVE GOOD QUALIFICATIONS.

>> COMERG SHELL ANY QUESTIONS SO FAR ON THE PART OR THE COMMENTS?

>> JUST THE CLARIFICATION THIS IS AN EXISTING POSITION AND THE REASON THAT THE CONSTABLE IS HERE TODAY IS BECAUSE STATE STATUTE REQUIRES THE COMMISSIONER ESCORT APPROVAL FOR THE APPOINTMENT OF DEPUTY CONSTABLES.

THERE IS NO STATUTE FOR APPOINTMENT OF DEPUTY SHERIFFS BUT FOR DEPUTY CONSTABLES WHATEVER REASON THAT IS THE HISTORY OF TEXAS THAT REQUIRES THE COMMISSIONER ESCORT APPROVAL. USUALLY THESE DISCUSSIONS HAPPEN AT THE BUDGET TIME ON THE CREATION FOR POSITION HE AND THE NEED FOR POSITIONS BUT THIS IS ACTUALLY AN EXISTING POSITION, BAILIFF POSITION, THE COUNTY COURTS OFFICE, JP COURTS IN

PRECINCT 1. >> COMMISSIONER COHEN.

>> I HAVE NO QUESTIONS FOR HIM. >> OKAY.

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ONWARD CONSTABLE. >> THANK YOU.

JUST A LITTLE BIO, STEPHEN IS A FORMAL SAN ANTONIO RESIDENT.

HE LIVES IN NEW BRANSFELS, MARRIED, STEPHEN SERVED IN THE U.S. MARINE CORPS, THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE SIR, HE STARTED IN LAW ENFORCEMENT AT GUARDEN RIDGE GARDEN RIDGEPOLICE DEPARTMENT.

HE HAS DONE 20 YEARS AND RETIRED WITH VERY, VERY HIGHLY STIRVEGHTS AND CERTIFICATIONS. STEPHEN HAS A LIMB LITTLE OVER 0 TEXAS COMMISSION LAW ENFORCEMENT HOURS.

HE'S LICENSED, CERTIFICATION, A MASTER PEACE OFFICER, FIREARMS INSTRUCTOR, LEGAL INSTRUCTOR AND A FIELD TRAINING OFFICER PLUS.

COMMISSIONERS, JUDGE. RIGHT NOW ARE PRETTY MUCH BEING DOWNED. AND WHEN YOU HELP PEOPLE COME INTO YOUR COURT AND DOWN PEACE OFFICERS, AND STALK PEACE OFFICERS, WE DON'T NEED THEM. WE DON'T NEED THEM HERE AND THAT'S WHAT YOU HAVE. I WANT YOU ALL TO LOOK AT THIS AND WELCOME, THIS OFFICER HERE, HE'S VERY WELL QUALIFIED FOR THE JOB. HE CAN DO THE JOB AND PLUS.

THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS?

>> GUILTY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONERS? FOR THE BAILIFF CAPACITY, I KNOW THAT IN CERTAIN SETTINGS WE'RE ALLOWED UP TO TWO BAILIFFS. BUT THIS IS JUST COVERING ONE

PER, AM I RIGHT CONSTABLE? >> I DON'T UNDERSTAND YOUR

QUESTION? >> TWO BAILIFFS TO COVER A COURTROOM, I ANY WE'RE ALLOWED --

>> IT DEPENDS JUDGE. IT DEPENDS ON IF THERE'S A CASE GOING ON IN COUNTY COURT AT LAW, WHETHER IT'S A D.U.I. INVOLVING A MANSLAUGHTER, OR INVOLVING SEVERAL TRAFFIC TICKETS OR THE INDIVIDUAL IS A VERY HIGH STYLE INDIVIDUAL AND HAS A CRIMINAL HISTORY, THERE MIGHT BE TWO OFFICERS IN THAT COURTROOM.

THERE MIGHT BE ONE OFFICER. AND THERE MIGHT BE ONE OFFICER BECAUSE WE'RE SHORT OF PEACE OFFICERS.

>> AND SO THIS IS JUST TO, BECAUSE WE HAVE NEW COURTROOMS, THIS JUST TO CLARIFY IS TO FILL ALL THOSE SLOTS WITH ONE

OFFICER, CORRECT? >> THAT'S CORRECT.

>> OKAY, I THINK THERE ARE NO OTHER QUESTIONS SO LET'S CALL

THE VOTE. >> WELL, DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENTS FROM ANY OF THE OTHER CONSENT ITEMS?

>> WELL, WE DO. WE'LL JUST -- LET'S GO THROUGH IT THAT WAY. OKAY.

THERE'S ANOTHER ONE HERE, G-11 IF YOU DON'T MIND.

WE HAVE MR. GORDIGO AMAYA SIGNED UP FOR G-11.

>> JUDGE COURT, G-11. OKAY.

G-11 COURT, JUDGE, LET ME SEE. I WAS MOVED BY THE LAST SPEAKER.

G-11. AGAIN, COURT I'M NOT A BIG TAN OF THIS BURGER KING MODEL WHERE Y'ALL GIVE THESE FOLKS WHAT THEY WANT. I KNOW ON THE BACK IT SAYS THAT THE INDIVIDUAL REQUESTING THIS CONTRACT WOULD LIKE TO RENEW WITH 75% INCREASE. 5% INCREASE. THAT HEAVILY TROUBLES ME THAT LANGUAGE BECAUSE THINGS CAN HAPPEN AND FOR YOU TO SIGN OFF ON STUFF LIKE THIS, AND ALLOWING FOLKS TO COME IN HERE AND TELL YOU I WOULD LIKE TO RENEW THIS THEN I WANT THIS EXTRA.

THAT DOESN'T WORK FOR US, COURT. YOU OUGHT TO BE MORE CAUTIOUS WITH THE TAXPAYER'S DOLLAR THAT KIND OF LANGUAGE RIGHT THERE, CLEARLY IS A DIRECT REFLECTION OF THE BURGER KING MODEL WHERE THEY GET WHAT THEY ASK FOR. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU SIR. NEXT UP WE HAVE MR. DAN LYON.

>> THANK YOU JUDGE BECERRA. LET ME JUST SAY I'VE BEEN HERE SINCE 1959. I PAY YOUR SALARY.

I PAY THEIR SALARY. I AM NEEDED.

I DON'T CARE WHAT ANYBODY SAYS. ALL RIGHT, LET'S GET TO JM ENGINEERING. LET ME SEE HERE.

THEY'VE GOT, AND I'VE BEEN THROWN FOR A LOOP HERE BUT THEY

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HAVE DOWN HERE, PREVENTIVE MAINTENANCE, $161,000 AND CHANGE. NOW, THEY CHARGE $75 FOR EVERY CALL-OUT. AND Y'ALL CAN CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG BUT I THINK THEY'RE OUT OF GEORGETOWN.

I DON'T UNDERSTAND. THEY'RE DOING PREVENTIVE MAINTENANCE. WHY THEY CAN'T ANTICIPATE SOME OF THESE BREAK DOWNS IN HVAC. BECAUSE WE'VE HAD A CONSIDERABLE AMOUNT OF HVAC BREAK DOWNS OVER THE PAST YEAR AND LIKE MR. AMAYA SAYS THEY'RE REQUESTING ANOTHER 5% INCREASE.

WELL, YOU KNOW, I WOULD SAY WE SHOULD JUDGE THEM BY WHAT THEY'VE DONE IN THE PAST. IF THEY'RE NOT PREDICTING THESE BE BREAKDOWNS AND REPLACING THE EQUIPMENT AS NEEDED AND JUST NURSING ALONG OLD EQUIPMENT AND MAKING CALL-OUT PAY PLUS REPAIR PAY ON THESE SYSTEMS I DON'T THINK THAT'S LOOKING OUT FOR THE BEST INTEREST OF THE COUNTY. I'M HOPING YOU'RE UNDERSTANDING WHAT I'M SAYING. WHEN YOU KEEP REPAIRING A BAD PIECE OF EQUIPMENT OVER AND OVER AND YOU KNOW IT'S GOING TO BREAK DOWN, YOU'RE JUST MILKING IT BASICALLY.

AND THEY SEEM TO HAVE A HISTORY OF THIS.

THAT'S JUST MY OPINION. I'M NOT AN EXPERT.

I'M NOT SAYING THAT THEY'RE DOING ANYTHING WRONG NECESSARILY. BUT I THINK IT SHOULD BE EXAMINED, AND I HOPE I NEVER HEAR WHAT I JUST HEARD FROM ANY LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICIAL EVER AGAIN.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> THANK YOU.

AND JUST TO CLARIFY, WHEN FOLKS ARE AT THE PODIUM, I'M ASKING THAT THEY FACE THE COURT MEMBERS AND NOT THE AUDIENCE.

BECAUSE ANYTHING LESS THAN FACING THE COURT MEMBERS WHO THEY'RE CHARGED WITH SPEAKING TO, IS NOT AS WE'VE JUST NOTICED, IS NOT USUALLY TAKEN FAVORABLY.

AND SO THAT'S WHY I'LL ALWAYS ASK IF ANYONE AT THE PODIUM IS TURNING AROUND FACE BEING THE AUDIENCE, I'LL ASK PLEASE ADDRESS US. IT IS PEACEFUL AND HARMONIOUS FOR ME TO RUN THAT MEETING WITH THIS PROTOCOL.

MARISOL HAVE OTHER PEOPLE BEEN INFORMED ABOUT A RENEWAL PROCESS? WHAT IS THE ROAD MAP WE CAN SHARE WITH THE PUBLIC ON THE RENEWAL ASK?

>> SET THE PROPOSAL WITH THESE REQUESTS FOR PROPOSAL CONTRACTS WE ALLOW EXTENSIONS PER YEAR. WE DISCUSS IT WITH THE DEPARTMENT HID, IN THIS CASE IT IS MR. CARMOLY FROM COUNTY OPERATION IS. TO DETERMINE WHETHER THEY WOULD LIKE TO CONTINUE WITH THE CONTRACT AND NEGOTIATE A RENEWAL. AND IF SO, AT TIMES WE DO HAVE HAD INCREASES BECAUSE OF INFLATION AND SUCH.

THAT IS THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE DEPARTMENT HEAD THAT WE GO

AHEAD WITH THE RENEWAL. >> MS. CRUMBLEY, IF YOU SO

SPEAKER ON THIS ITEM. >> AS MARISOL SAID, THE PRICE OF THE% I BELIEVE WAS WARRANTED IN COMPARISON FOR THE HOURLY RATE OF WHAT OTHER COMPANIES ARE CHARGING.

WE ARE STILL PAYING A LOWER HOURLY RATE FOR REGULAR HOURS, AFTER HOURS, WEEKENDS AND HOLIDAYS.

THE OTHER COMPANIES ARE FOR THEIR AFTER HOURS WEEKENDS AND HOLIDAYS ARE AT DIFFERENT RATES. THESE ARE THE SAME.

AND THE PREVENTATIVE MAINTENANCE FOR THIS SPRING AND WINTER ARE ALSO CHEAPER COST. AND WE CAN'T ALWAYS PREDICT WHEN EQUIPMENT'S GOING TO FAIL. TWO YEAR MAINTENANCE CHECK DOES NOT GUARANTEE US THAT OUR EQUIPMENT'S GOING TO HOLD UP DURING THOSE OFF TIMES. UNFORTUNATELY WE LIVE IN TEXAS AND OUR ROOFTOP UNITS EXPOSED TO THE HEAT DO FAIL.

THERE IS OTHER COMPONENTS TO AN HVAC THAN JUST FILTERS AND

REGULAR STUFF. >> OKAY, COMMISSIONERS ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ON THIS ITEM?

>> AND TAMMY YOU FEEL CONFIDENT THAT THEY'RE DOING A GOOD JOB

FOR OUR COUNTY? >> I PEOPLE LIKE WE CAN -- AS WITH ANY COMPANY WE DO HAVE COMPLAINTS WITH EVERYONE BUT THEY ARE DOING A JOB THAT'S SUFFICIENT FOR US.

>> DO YOU ACTUALLY DO A VENDOR PERFORMANCE CHECK ON THESE VENDORS BEFORE YOU SUBMIT -- BECAUSE NORMALLY YOU WOULD PROBABLY -- DO Y'ALL DO THAT WITHIN THE OFFICE, VENDOR

PERFORMANCE EVALUATION? >> YES, WE DO.

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>> OKAY. >> COMMISSIONER COHEN ANYTHING

ELSE? >> NO.

>> WE'VE ALSO COMPARED THE THEM TO THE COMPANY THAT WE HAD PYRE TO THIS AND THEY ARE CHEAPER THAN THE OTHER COMPANY AND THEY ARE OUT OF ROUND ROCK WHICH IS UNFORTUNATE BUT WE HAVE WHOEVER BIDS WE CAN'T CONTROL WHO THAT -- WHO THOSE COMPANIES ARE.

>> THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER SHELL.

>> JUST A CLARIFICATION OF THE PROCESS WHEN WE DO THE RFP FOR THIS TYPE OF SERVICE WE THEN GET RESPONDENTS FROM QUALIFIED COMPANIES OR COMPANIES THAT ARE PROPOSING TO BE QUALIFIED.

THEY ARE REVIEWED BY STAFF. WE DO USE THE FAST AS AN EXAMPLE. THERE ARE TIMES WHEN WE HAVE CONTRACTED WITH IN ENTITIES AND THEY DON'T COME WHEN WE CALL.

WE ARE LOOK AT PRICE IS PROBABLY PRIMARY.

WHEN WE LOOK AT THESE RFPS IT ONE THING.

SOMEBODY COULD STA SAY I'M GOINO REPAIR THIS UNIT, THEN THE NEXT UNIT THAT CONTRACTOR IS MORE THAN THE OTHER CONTRACTOR.

SO THEY TAKE IT KIND OF TOTALITY GOOD WHAT THE CONTRACTOR IS SAYING THAT THEY WILL DO BOTH FROM AN HOURLY RATE TO COME OUT WHEN WE CALL THEM FOR AN EMERGENCY OR WHEN THEY DO IT IN PREVENTIVE MAINTENANCE. THAT CONTRACT CALLS THAT OUT.

THE 5% IS IN THE CONTRACT WHERE BOTH PARTIES CAN RENEW WITH THE 95 5% INCREASE. DOES THE COUNTY WISH US TO, THEY CAN SAY NO, THEY DON'T WANT TO KEEP DOING IT.

LIKE I SAY IN SOME CASES WE HAVE FIRMS THAT WEIGH ENTER INTO CONTRACT WITH THAT THEY DON'T SHOW UP, THAT CAUSES GREAT PROBLEMS. SO AS LONG AS THEY ARE DOING WHAT WE BELIEVE IS GOOD, IF WE ARE REVIEWING THE WORK AND WE BELIEVE WE'RE GETTING GOOD SERVICE WITH FROM THEM I DO THINK IT'S PROBABLY RIGHT THAT IF WE WERE TO GO BACK OUT WE ARE GOING TO SEE A INCREASE OF GREATER THAN 5%.

NOT TO SAY THAT THEY'RE DOING A PERFECT JOB LIKE WHEN MS. CRUMBLEY MENTIONED BUT BASED ON WHAT THEY BID ON TWO YEARS AGO OR LOWER LAST YEAR WHETHER IT'S A GOOD IDEA FOR US TO CONTINUE WITH THE 5% INCREASE OR NOT IS UP TO US.

ON THE RECOMMENDATION OF OUR STAFF.

>> THANK YOU. COMMERCE SMITH.

>> THOSE OF WHO YOU WATCHED THE COURT FOR A WHILE, BOTH JUDGE BECERRA AND I BOTH PUSHED FOR AN OFTEN RFP, THREE YEARS AGO.

BECAUSE WE HAD SIMILAR CONCERNS AND WHENEVER THOSE BIDS CAME IN IT WAS PRETTY OBVIOUS WHO THE SELECTION NEEDED TO BE AND WE DID GO WITH THE BEST USE OF THE TAXPAYER FUNDS.

AND SO I TONED AGREE WITH COMMISSIONER SHELL.

IN TODAY'S MARKET IF WE WENT OUT WITH AN OPEN RFP ON THIS I WOULD BE SHOCKED IF WE WERE TO GET BIDS LESS THAN 5% WHAT WAS THREE YEARS AGO WHEN WE WENT OUT WITH THE RFP.

>> THAT'S THE WAY I BELIEVE, THESE DOLLAR AMOUNTS AND ARE MOST DESCRIPTIVE AS THEY ARE WRITTEN IS SO IMPORTANT BECAUSE NO MATTER HOW HARD WE TRY TO WRITE THESE AGENDA ITEMS THERE WILL ALWAYS BE BLIND SPOTS OF INFORMATION.

THAT'S WHY I ALWAYS ENCOURAGE THE DEPARTMENT HEADS AND COMMISSIONERS TO HAVE THIS DIALOGUE SO WE CAN BE SHEDDING LIGHT ON IT COMPLETELY, MOST THOROUGHLY SO THAT WE HAVE THERE COMMUNITY UNDERSTANDING THAT THIS IS THE RIGHT DECISION.

THIS IS THE BEST CHOICE. AND THIS IS HOW WE'RE ADDRESSING THINGS. SO I REALLY APPRECIATE US MOVING THROUGH THESE QUESTIONS THAT SOMEONE MAY THINK A PARTICULAR QUESTION IS ANNOYING OR INSULTING OR WHATEVER BUT AGAIN IT IS PART OF THE NECESSARY PROCESS.

YOU WANTED TO SAY SOMETHING ELSE?

>> JUDGE I'D LIKE TO ADD TO WHAT COMMISSIONER SHELL SAID.

THIS COMPANY HAS NOT ONE TIME FAILED TO SHOW UP IN A TIMELY MANNER AND THEIR TECHS ARE VERY KNOWLEDGEABLE ABOUT THEIR

EQUIPMENT SO TO THAT END. >> I COULD SEE HOW SOMEONE MIGHT MISUNDERSTAND HIS GENERALIZE ACHES OF OTHER CONTRACTS AND TYING IT TO THIS ONE. GOOD JOB TYING THAT TO THIS ONE.

THAT'S NOT WHAT COMMISSIONER SHELL MEANT.

WELL DONE, WELL DONE. AND THE LAST ITEM THAT WE HAVE SOMEONE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON IS G-13.

MR. DAN LYON. >> THANK YOU, JUDGE IMERS, I'M GOING TO HAVE TO FIND G 13. I WAS CAUGHT BY SURPRISE ON THIS

ONE. >> SAWYER RANCH AND ROUND ABOUT.

>> I'LL READ IT FOR PUBLIC. APPROVE SPECIFICATIONS FOR IFB 2023-B 11 DAR DARDEN HILL AT SAR RANCH SOLICIT AND ADVERTISE.

I'M NOT SURE ABOUT ALL THESE ROUND ABOUTS.

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THE LAST ROUND ABOUT THAT I SPOKE ABOUT WAS AROUND HAYS CITY STORE. THAT ENDED UP $2 MILLION.

I'VE DRIVEN OUT THAT WAY SEVERAL TIMES AND YES, TRAFFIC IS INCREASING OUT THERE. BUT I REALLY DON'T THINK THAT WE REALLY NEEDED THAT ROUND ABOUT AT THE TIME THAT IT WAS BUILT AND AT THE PRICE THAT IT WAS BUILT.

SO ONCE AGAIN I WOULD SAY LET'S GO KIND OF SLOWLY ON THESE ROUND ABOUTS AND SEE IF THEY ARE REALLY, REALLY NEEDED.

I KNOW YOU'VE PROBABLY DONE SOME STUDIES AND SOME SPECULATION IS THAT WE'LL NEED THEM IN THE NEAR FUTURE WHATEVER, BUT SPECULATION IS JUST SPECULATION AND DOLLARS ARE DOLLARS.

AND WE'RE HALF A BILLION IN THE HOLE ALREADY.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> THANK YOU SIR.

>> JUDGE ON THIS SPECIFIC PROJECT NUMBER 1, THE ROUND ABOUT AT HAYS CITY STORE WHILE ITS BORDERS MY PRECINCT ACTUALLY IN COMMISSIONER SHELL'S PRECINCT I WILL SAY THE RESIDENTS THERE GIVEN THE NOT ONLY THE ACCIDENTS BUT THE DEATHS THAT HAVE OCCURRED AT THAT INTERSECTION, HAVE BEEN VERY SUPPORTIVE OF THAT ROUND ABOUT NOW THAT IT'S INSTALLED.

IT'S ACTUALLY ONE I BELIEVE IT'S WON A STATEWIDE AWARD IS THAT CORRECT COMMISSIONER SHEM? THE ROUND ABOUT THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TODAY THOUGH IS ACTUALLY AT THE CORNER OF SAWYER RANCH AND DARDEN HILL. AS YOU KNOW THE COUNTY HAS NO SIGNALIZED INTERSECTIONS IN THEIR ENTIRE SERVICE AREA.

IF YOU SEE A STOPLIGHT SIGNALIZED INTERSECTION THAT'S EITHER WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS OF A CITY OR IT'S ON A STATE ROADWAY HERE IN HAYES COUNTY. THE INTERSECTION THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TODAY IS AT THE ENTRANCE OF THE NEW CYPRESS HILLS ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, DRIPPING SPRINGS ISD PLACE ID ON 157 ACRES AT THAT CORNER. WE DON'T HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY FOR AA SIGNALIZED INTERSECTION THERE.

SO OUR REAL ONLY OPPORTUNITY TO IMPROVE THAT INTERSECTION WAS A ROUND ABOUT. THERE IS A HISTORIC OAK THERE, IT IS PROBABLY A LITTLE OVER 200 YEARS OLD AND THROUGH DESIGN THAT WE'VE REACHED OUT AND FINALIZED, IT ACTUALLY SAVES THAT OAK AS WELL. THE PROPERTY THAT IS ADJACENT TO THAT THAT IS NEEDED FOR THE INTERSECTION WE ACTUALLY HAVE A USAGE AGREEMENT WITH THOSE LAND OWNERS.

AND IT'S ALREADY BEEN CLEARED. THE REASON WE'RE GOING TO BID AT THIS POINT ON THE PROJECT IS BECAUSE SINCE IT IS DIRECTLY IN FRONT OF AN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL AND ADJACENT TO ANOTHER ELEMENTARY SCHOOL AND A MIDDLE SCHOOL WE WANT THIS PROJECT TO GO TO CONSTRUCTION THE DAY THAT SCHOOL LETS OUT.

WE'VE DONE SOME PRELIMINARY CLEARING THOSE KIND OF THINGS BUT IF WE GO TO BID ON THIS PROJECT RIGHT NOW WE HOPE AND ANTICIPATE THAT CONSTRUCTION WILL START, WE'LL HAVE AN AWARD SOMETIME IN MARCH, WE'LL HAVE CONSTRUCTION START HOPEFULLY THAT LAST PART OF MAY, BEGINNING OF JUNE, AND OUR TIMETABLE IS TO HAVE IT FINISHED WITHIN THE FIRST WEEK, TWO WEEKS OF THE SCHOOL YEAR IN THE UPCOMING YEAR SO WE'RE NOT IMPEDING TRAFFIC TO THOSE SCHOOLS DURING THEIR REGULAR BUSINESS HOURS.

>> THANK YOU. ANY OTHER COMMENTS ON CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS BEFORE WE CALL THE ROLL? K DR. CARDENAS FLEECE CALL THE ROLL.

>> COMMISSIONER BHINGS, YES. COMMISSIONER COHEN, YES, COMMISSIONER SMITH, YES. COMMISSIONER SHELL, YES.

AND JUDGE BECERRA. >> WE'RE GOING TO TAKE A MINIMAL TO HAVE THE DEPUTY SWORN IN AND I'M GOING TO RUN TO THE RESTROOM WHILE YOU DO THAT.

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>> SO NOW WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON TO ROADS.

[I1. Discussion and possible action to award a contract for IFB 2023-B02 RM 2770 Roadway Improvements with Hunter Industries, Ltd. in the amount of $635,948.76. SMITH/BORCHERDING]

PLEASE OPEN L-1, NO, H 1. >> U 1, DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO AWARD A CONTRACT FOR IFB 2023-B 002 RN, IN THE AMOUNT

OF $635,9 TRAY.76. >> SO MOVED.

>> ANY OTHER COMMENTS? MIDDLE EAST CONTROL.

>> COMMISSIONER SMITH, YES, COMMISSIONER INGALSBE, YES, COMMISSIONER SHELL, YES, JUDGE BECERRA.

[I2. Discussion and possible to grant variances to Hays County road construction standards and to the adopted fire code for Moon Ridge subdivision in Precinct 3. SHELL/BORCHERDING]

YES. PLEASE OPEN I-2.

>> I-2 DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION I ASSUME TO GRANT VARIANCES TO HAYES COUNTY ROAD CONSTRUCTION STANDARDS AND TO THE ADOPTED FIRE CODE FOR MOON RIDGE SUBDIVISION IN PRECINCT

THEY. >> SO MOVED.

>> SECOND. >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND.

COMMISSIONER SHELL. >> THANK YOU JUDGE.

THIS IS FOR A SUBDIVISION THAT WE HAVE ALREADY APPROVED IN A COUPLE OF INSTANCES? IT WILL HAVE ROADS OF A GRADE OF GREATER THAN OUR STANDARDS WHICH ARE 11% IN THE FIRE CODE IN SOME CASE WHICH IS 10%. AND SO IN THOSE CASES WE WOULD LIKE TO ALLOW FOR THE GLAIFD UPF UP TO 15%.

I DON'T KNOW IF THEY WILL GIT TO 15 BUT SOME OF THEM, IT IS A APPROVED SUBDIVISION, IT IS KIND OF A WONKY AREA AND THE RESULT OF THOSE ROADS MAY BE INCREASED GRADES.

JERRY HAS TAKEN A LOOK AT EVERYTHING.

THE FIRE MARSHAL HAS GOOD INFO, WORK FOR DEVELOPER MAKE SURE THE SURFACE IS USED IS SOMETHING THAT WILL TRY TO REDUCE ANY TYPE OF SLIP ESPECIALLY FROM EMERGENCY VEHICLES.

SO IN THAT INSTANCE OR DEPARTMENT WILL WORK WITH DEVELOPER TO MAKE SURE THAT THE CORRECT ROAD SURFACE IS USED WHERE NECESSARY FOR THOSE STEEPERGRADES.

>> AND OUR FIRE MARSHAL FEELS THAT THERE IS NO SAFETY INVOLVED AND OUR TRANSPORTATION, THEY BOTH CHECKED OUT IN SUMMARY?

SO THAT'S NICE. >> THE REQUEST OF THE FIRE MARSHAL WOULD BE TO CONSIDER ANY TYPE OF ROUGHER SURFACE ON SOME

OF THOSE STEEPER GRADES. >> GREAT.

WELL DONE. ANY FIRST QUESTIONS

COMMISSIONERS? >> I WAS CONCERNED WITH THAT

STEEPER GRADE. >> SAFETY AS WELL, GOOD YOU'VE ADDRESSED IT THANK YOU WELL DONE.

PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. >> COMMISSIONER TBI INGALSBE, Y,

[I3. Discussion and possible action to accept the maintenance bond rider extension from DNT Construction, Inc. until June 30, 2023 for Shadow Creek subd., Phase 9, Section 2 (maintenance bond #1848963 in the amount of $180,609.38). COHEN/BORCHERDING]

COMMISSIONER SHELL, COMMISSIONER SMITH, COMMISSIONER COHEN, JUDGE

BECERRA. >> YES, CALL 3.

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>> DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO ACCEPT AMEND BOND,.

>> SO MOVED. >> LUCKILY FOR US, THIS IS A STRAIGHTFORWARD BOND PIECE AND SO WE'RE IN GOOD SHAPE ON THAT ONE. ANY OTHER COMMENTS?

>> STIPULATIONS ON YOUR FIRST ITEM.

>> THAT'S EXACTLY RIGHT. >> EXCITING ONE TO HAVE.

>> A LITTLE BORING BUT I WANTED TO GIVE YOU THAT SPACE TO SPEAK

ON IT. >> MY ONLY QUESTION, I DID ASK IN BORCHMR. BORCHERDING, THE EXN AND THE CIRCUMSTANCES FOR IT.

>> AND MR. BORCHERDING HAVE YOU COME ONE AN ANSWER SO FAR OR NOT

YET? >> WELL, WE'RE CONTACTING DNC THE CONTRACTOR AND PUSHING HIM TO GET THE REPAIRS MADE SO THEY CAN -- THESE ROADS CAN BE ACCEPTED.

>> BEAUTIFUL. THANK YOU.

TEAMWORK. PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

>> COMMISSIONER COHEN, YES, COMMISSIONER SHELL, YES, COMMISSIONER SMITH, YES, COMMISSIONER INGALSBE, YES.

[I4. Discussion and possible action to consider the acceptance of vegetative coverage and release of the revegetation bond #PB03016800715M in the amount of $31,129.80 for 6 Creeks subdivision, Phase 1, Section 8A. SHELL/BORCHERDING]

JUDGE BECERRA. >> YES, I 4.

>> DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO CONSIDER THE ACCEPTANCE OF VEGETATIVE COVERAGE AND RELEASE OF THE REVEGETATION BOND, FOR SIX CREEKS SUBDIVISION PHASE 1

SECTION 8A. >> SO MOVED.

>> SECOND. >> FLEECE CRAIL.

>> COMMISSIONER SHELL, YES, COMMISSIONER SMITH, COMMISSIONER

[J1. PLN-2078-PC; Hold a Public Hearing followed by discussion and possible action regarding Hawk Ridge, Ph 1, Blk B, Lots, 11, 17 & 18, Replat. SMITH/PACHECO]

INGALSBE, YES, COMMISSIONER COHEN, YES, JUDGE BECERRA RAH.

>> J 1. >> POSSIBLE DISCUSSION REGARDING HAWK RIDGE PHASE 1 BLOCK B, LOTS 17 AND 18 REPLAT.

>> SO I'M GOING TO OPEN FOR A PUBLIC HEARING, J-1 IF THERE IS ANYONE HERE TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS AGENDA ITEM PLEASE APPROACH THE PODIUM. I SEE NO MOVEMENT.

I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

>> MR. PACHECO. >> THE REPLATS OF LOTS 11, 17 AND 18, IS A EIGHT LOT SUBDIVISION ACROSS 9.73 ACRES, IN PRECINCT 4. THE WATER UTILITY WHICH MANY BE ACCOMPLISHED BY WEST TRAVIS COUNTY AGENCY, AND ON SITE SEWERAGE FACILITIES. AT THIS TIME STAFF IS RECOMMENDING AN APPROVAL WITH CONDITIONS.

THE CONDITIONS BEING MET ARE -- BEING REQUESTED ARE LISTED IN THE BACK BUT STILL ELEMENTARIES OF OUR TECHNICAL REVIEW THAT HAVE NOT BEEN ADDRESSED, MAINLY PERTAINING TO NOTICE REQUIREMENTS AND PLAT NOTES BE ESTABLISHED ON THE PLAT.

>> AND ALTHOUGH THE VIEWING PUBLIC MAY NOT HAVE ACCESS TO THE BACKUP AS WE SPEAK, BESIDES THOSE THAT YOU HAVE MENTIONED THERE ARE OTHER VARIATIONS THAT THEY ARE SEEKING?

>> NO, THERE IS NO VARIANCES REQUESTED FROM OUR COUNTY

DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS. >> SO JUST APPROVAL WITH

CONDITIONS. >> YES, SIR.

>> GOT IT WELL DONE ANYTHING ELSE COMMISSIONER?

>> NO, JUST AGAIN THE REQUIREMENTS FOR THE TECHNICAL REVIEW ARE SOMETHING THAT WE DO PRETTY OFTEN SO --

>> YES THAT'S CORRECT. >> OKAY.

SO WE HAD A PUBLIC HEARING. PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

>> COMMISSIONER SMITH, YES.COMMISSIONER INGALSBE.

COMMISSIONER COHEN. >> YOU NEED TO CLOSE THE HEARING

AND CLOSE IT. >> I THOUGHT I DID CLOSE IT.

JUST MAKE A MOTION TO BE CLEAR. >> SO MOVED.

>> SECOND. >> NOW CALL THE ROLL.

>> COMMISSIONER SMITH, YES, COMMISSIONER INGALSBE, YES.

[J2. PLN-2122-NP; Discussion and possible action regarding the 272 AC Fitzhugh Subdivision, Final Plat.]

COMMISSIONER SHELL, YES, JUDGE BECERRA.

>> YES, J-2. >> DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION, REGARDING THE 272 ACRE FITZHUGH FINAL PLAT.

>> THE 272 ACRE FITZHUGH SUBDIVISION IS LOCATED CROSS APPROXIMATELY 272 ACRES IN TRIBUTE SPRINGS IN COMMISSIONER PRECINCT 3. THE LOT SIZE IS FOR ALL 35 LOTS ARE REQUIRED TO MEET OUR SIX ACRE MINIMUM LOT SIZE RULE.

THAT'S ON THE BASIS OF THE LOT SIZE REQUIREMENTS FROM OUR HAYES COUNTY ON SITE SEWERAGE FACILITY RULES.

THAT IF YOU ARE ESTABLISHING A SUBDIVISION THAT IS GOING TO BE TREATED BY INDIVIDUAL PRIVATE WELLS AND ON SIZE SEWERAGE FACILITIES THAT THE MINIMUM IS SIX ACRES.

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THESE WILL BE LARGER LOTS FOR THIS ONSITE DEVELOPMENT.

THE OTHER DEVELOPMENT, THE ROADS THAT ARE BEING PROPOSED ARE GOING TO BE CONSTRUCTED TO THE COUNTY'S TRANSPORTATION STANDARDS AND INSPECTED BY OUR TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT BUT THEY WILL SEE PRIVATE MAINTENANCE FOR THESE ROADS.

AT THIS TIME THERE IS A -- STAFF IS RECOMMENDING A, APPROVAL A CL APPROVAL BASED ON THE ELEMENTS THAT NEED TO BE IRONED OUT.

SOME ELEMENTS ARE RELATED TO OUR FLOOD PLANE REVIEW SO THERE ARE STILL REQUIREMENTS OF IDENTIFYING AND SHOWING THE BEST AVAILABLE FLOOD PLANE AND HAYES COUNTY BEST AVAILABLE FLOOD PLANE ON THE PLOT. THE OTHER IMPORTANT ELEMENT THAT GOES ALONG WITH THIS ONE IS THAT THE DEVELOPER IS GOING TO SEEK TO HAVE FISCAL SURETY POSTED AT A LATER DATE FOR THOSE ROAD IMPROVEMENTS WHICH WILL ALLOW FOR RECORDATION OF THE PLAT IN LIEU OF BUILDING THE ROADS OUT FULLY BEFORE THE PLAT CAN BE RECORDED. SO THERE WILL BE AN ITEM IN THE NEAR FUTURE COMING AGAIN RELATING TO THIS DEVELOPMENT IN WHICH FISCAL SURETY WILL BE PROPOSED FOR ACCEPTANCE BY THE

COUNTY. >> ANYTHING ELSE?

>> NO, SIR I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE WITH CONDITIONS

MEDICATIONED BY STAFFMN 2022-NP. >> I WILL SECOND THAT BUT I DID HAVE ONE QUESTION THOUGH. I LOOKED AT THE PLAT AS WELL, AND SINCE IT DOES CROSS P BARTON CREEK THERE DO YOU KNOW IF THEY ARE USING ATLAS 14 OR WHAT DATA THEY ARE USING?

>> THAT IS AVAILABLE ALREADY. >> OUR REGULATIONS REQUIRE THE STAFF TO USE THE BEST AVAILABLE FLOOD PLANE DATA THAT WE HAVE AVAILABLE, AND ATLAS 14 CAN BE USED.

I DON'T KNOW FOR A FACT FM WE DO HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE FROM THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT. TRAVIS DO YOU WANT TO SPEAK ON

THIS? >> I DO NOT KNOW THAT ANSWER

RIGHT F OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD. >> I KNOW THERE WAS LOOT OF

CONCERN OUT THERE. >> WILL YOU PLEASE STATE YOUR

NAME AND TITLE. >> TRAIFS WILSON, ENGINEER OF

RECORD NOR THE SUBDIVISION PLAT. >> AND NOW WILL YOU SPEAK ON

THAT? >> THE HAYES COUNTY REGULATIONS PLANE THAT BE THE RECORD FLOOD PLANE FOR HAYES COUNTY.

AND IN THIS CASE IT WAS A FLOOD PLANE THAT WAS STUDIED A FEW YEARS AGO, THAT DOES PREDATE ATLAS 14 BUT STILL THE FLOOD PLANE HAS NOT BEEN UPDATED, IT IS REQUIRED TO BE SHOWN ON THE PLAT SO WE ARE DOING THAT ACCORDINGLY.

WE DO A NEW THAT'S 14, THAT'S NOT COMPLETED YESTERDAY.

>> YET. >> DOES THAT POSE ANY RISK TO

THE STRUCTURES YOU ARE BUILDING? >> NO.

WE HAVE PROJECTED AN ANALYSIS ON THE SIDE, TO ANTICIPATE WHERE THAT WOULD BE. BUT ON THE LEGAL DOCUMENT ON THE PLAT IT'S SHOWING THE CURRENT FLOOD PLANE.

>> BUT YOU ARE INCORPORATING THE ATLAS F PARAMETERS CORRECT? WE ASKED ABOUT NOT BUILDING ACCORDING TO POTENTIAL FLOOD PLANES WITHIN THE ATHAT THE 14 MAP WE KNOW IS ALREADY OUT, EVEN THOUGH YOU DIDN'T ADDRESS IT THAT WAY WE DIDN'T ACCIDENTALLY BUILD SOMETHING THAT IS POTENTIALLY DELETABLE ON THE

ATLAS 14 MAP? >> THIS IS FOR THE ESTABLISHING OF REDEVELOPMENT FOR THE EXACT QUESTION AS WE DO AS THE PERMITTING AUTHORITY IN THE COUNTY, THE IS JURISDICTION OF CITIES OF THE COUNTY EVEN THOUGH WE'RE NOT ADDRESSING IT IN THE PLAT OUR STAFF AND OUR FLOOD PLANE ADMINISTRATOR WILL TAKE INTO REVIEW ALL THE DATA INCLUDING THE ATLAS 14 DATA, IF WE NOTICE THAT THERE IS A STRUCTURE OR BUILDING THAT IS GOING TO BE A DANGER BASED ON THE LOCATION AND PROXIMITY.

>> THAT IS PERFECT. YOU CAN USE THE OLDER ONE YOU BUT KNOWING 14TH IS THERE THEY WILL PUT SOMETHING FOR 14.

>> FOR THIS ELEMENT OF OUR CREEK THE HAYES COUNTY AS YOU ARE ALL AWARE THE LATTER HALF OF THIS PAST YEAR GOING INTO THIS YEAR WE ARE STATING OUR EFFORTS TO STUDY ELEMENTS OF ONION CREEK WITH ATLAS 14, DATA FROM THE CITY OF AUSTIN'S STUDY AS WELL, SO THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE CAN ANTICIPATE THROUGHOUT THIS YEAR.

>> YES, IT'S A VERY IMPORTANT SPACE IN OUR FOOT PRESENT IN OUR SHARED JURISDICTIONS AND I'VE BEEN AT THE CAPITAL ADDRESSING THESE VERY THINGS. I'M GRATEFUL THAT WE ARE ALL PAYING ATTENTION GOOD JOB AND THANK YOU.

IF THERE'S NOTHING ELSE WE'LL CALL THE ROLL.

>> COMMISSIONER INGALSBE. YES.

[K1. Discussion and possible action to temporarily suspend the Hays County Salary Exception Policy pending finalization of the current market study]

COMERL COHEN, YES. COMMISSIONER SHELL, YES,

[02:40:06]

COMMISSIONER SMITH. JUDGE BECERRA RAH.

>> YES. PLEASE OPEN K-1.

>> DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION, CURRENT MARKET STUDY.

>> SO MOVED. >> WE HAVE ONE INDIVIDUAL SIGNED

UP. >> JUDGE, COURT, THIS AGENDA ITEM, I NOTICE THAT THEY USE THE LANGUAGE OF SUSPEND TEMPORARY SUSPENSION, WONDERING, DO THEY HAVE A DEFINITION FOR HOW MUCH TIME THEY ARE GOING TO SUSPEND IT FOR? IT IS KIND OF A PANDORA'S BOX. TO EXAGGERATE SALARIES AND SO ON ONCE AGAIN LOOKING OUT FOR THE TAXPAYER.

THANK YOU. >> I'LL ASK THAT QUESTION, IN JENKINS. MR. JENKINS.

>> JUDGE, COMMISSIONERS, I REALLY CAN'T ADD ANYTHING MORE TO THIS THAN WHAT MR. AMAYA HAS SAID.

I WANT CLARIFICATION CAN. IF THIS KIND OF MONEY IS BEING SPENT WHY DON'T YOU TABLE THIS UNTIL YOU HAVE HAD MORE TIME TO

THINK ABOUT IT. >> THANK YOU SIR.

MS. MILLER WOULD YOU LIKE TO APPROACH THE PODIUM?

>> AND JUDGE, THE IDEA OF THIS ITEM IS THE COUNTY HAS A SPOT FOR THE EXCEPTION TO THE MINIMUM PAY.

THIS ITEM IS ASKING FOR CONSIDERATION FROM HR AND THE COMMISSIONER ESCORT TO SUSPEND THAT UNTIL WE HAVE FINALIZED THE SALARY STUDY THAT IS CURRENTLY BEING DONE.

I THINK WE MENTIONED IT IN SOME OF THE ACTIONS EARLIER TODAY.

WE ARE SO CLOSE TO SETTING THESE WE'RE HOPING TO FIND OUT WE ARE SO CLOSE TO SETTING THIS NEW SALARY PLAN.

THAT WE DON'T WANT PROBLEMS CREATED IN THIS SHORT INTERIM.

THIS DISCUSSION IS ABOUT SHOULD WE NOT OFFER ANY EXCEPTIONS AS THE CURRENT POLICY STATES UNTIL WE CAN SET THE SALARY PLAN AND

PUT IT IN ACTION. >> ANOTHER WORD THAT COULD BE LESS CONFUSING FOR SOME MAY BE A MORATORIUM.

SO MS. MILLER. >> THANK YOU.

SHERI MILLER HAYES COUNTY HR DIRECTOR.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT ELSE I CAN SAY THAT I DIDN'T SAY EARLIER IN THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S ITEM AND THAT COMMISSIONER SHELL HAS JUST EXPRESSED. WE ARE CONCERNED THAT CONTINUED SALARY EXCEPTIONS WOULD CAUSE DIFFICULTY IN PLACING THOSE PARTICULAR EMPLOYEES IN A NEW PAY PLAN.

DEPENDING ON HOW THAT PAY PLAN IS FINALIZED.

IF EMPLOYEES ARE PLACED IN THE PAY PLAN, AS THE CONTRACT COMPANY THAT WE'VE CONTRACTED WITH SUGGESTS, BASED ON THEIR YEARS OF SERVICE, OR YEARS OF EMPLOYMENT WITH THE COUNTY, THEN THERE COULD BE SOME ANOMALIES AND SKEWED SALARIES FOR THOSE EMPLOYEES THAT WE CONTINUE TO APPROVE SALARY EXCEPTIONS FOR.

>> COMMISSIONER INGALSBE. >> I'M SURE WE HAVE ALL VOICED CONCERNS REGARDING THE TIME THAT IT'S TAKING TO COMPLETE THE SURVEY. BUT I ALSO KNOW THAT IT'S BEEN DIFFICULT TO HIRE INDIVIDUALS AS WELL.

SO WE'VE BEEN WILLING TO LOOK AT THOSE DEPARTMENTS THAT HAVE REQUESTED THOSE SALARY EXCEPTIONS.

AND, YOU KNOW, I WANT TO SUPPORT THIS, BUT I ALSO -- I WOULD IMAGINE THAT IF WE HAD ANY OF THE NEWER ELECTED OFFICIALS THAT HAD CONCERNS, I HOPE WOULD HAVE COME TODAY, TO ADDRESS THAT.

YOU KNOW, THEIR CONCERNS. I MEAN WE HEARD THAT COMMISSIONER COHEN WASN'T ABLE TO HIRE TWO INDIVIDUALS BECAUSE OF THE SALARY AND WE ALL ARE STRUGGLING WITH THAT.

I KNOW MARISOL LOST SOMEONE AGAIN.

WE ARE ALL ANXIOUS AND FRUSTRATED I GUESS THAT WE HAVE NOT HAD THIS SALARY SURVEY COMPLETED.

AND I'M HOPING WELL I GUESS MAYBE YOU CAN SHARE HOW LONG DO WE OR YOU ANTICIPATE HOW MUCH LONGER BEFORE IT'S COMPLETED AND

WE START LOOKING AT -- >> AT A MINIMUM A COUPLE OF WEEKS. WE'VE ONLY HAD THE SALARY ANALYSIS A FEW WEEKS AND VICKY AND MYSELF AND EVEN COMMISSIONER SHELL HAVE HAD SOME CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THE INITIAL ANALYSIS AND THE RECOMMENDED PAY PLAN.

THERE ARE PLACES IN THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS THAT NEED MOVEMENT, POSITIONS THAT THEY HAVE NOT UNDERSTOOD CORRECTLY,

[02:45:02]

EITHER BASED ON TALKS WITH THE ELECTED OFFICIAL OR DEPARTMENT HEAD AND THE EMPLOYEES POSITION SCHEDULE.

SO THERE ARE A HANDFUL OF THOSE ISSUES THAT WE STILL MUST WORK OUT WITH MAG, BEFORE WE CAN PRESENT A PROPOSED PAY PLAN TO A DEPARTMENT HEAD OR AN ELECTED OFFICIAL.

AND THIN THEN PLACING EMPLOYEES WITHIN THE PAY PLAN WILL COME NEXT. SO MINIMUM OF A COUPLE OF WEEKS.

WITH THE HOLIDAYS, AND I WAS OUT A FEW DAYS ILL, AND SO OUR TIME SPENT SINCE WE'VE HAD THE INITIAL RECOMMENDATIONS HAS PROBABLY BEEN ONLY A WEEK, WEEK AND A HALF.

COUPLE OF MORE WEEKS MINIMUM. IF WE CAN STAY CONNECTED WITH MAG DOOU DURING THAT TIME, THEYE EVEN AS RECENT AS TODAY E-MAILED FOR ADDITIONAL INFORMATION REGARDING OUR BENEFITS.

BECAUSE WE DID INCLUDE BENEFITS IN OUR SURVEY REQUEST WITH THEM.

SO THEY ARE STILL CONTINUING TO WORK ON OUR PROJECT.

AND THE DELAY UP FRONT, IT IS A COMPLEX PROJECT.

MAG EVEN SHARED WITH VICKY AND I DURING ONE PHONE CALL THAT WE WERE AS COMPLICATED AS A LARGE SCHOOL DISTRICT IN TEXAS THAT THEY WORKED ON. AND WE BOTH SAID WHAT? BECAUSE WE UNDERSTAND OUR ORGANIZATIONAL STRUCTURE.

BUT THE SURVEY COMPANY AS TO GET TO KNOW OUR ORGANIZATIONAL STRUCTURE AND THE DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS AND WHAT THEY DO.

>> WHEN WE TALK ABOUT DELAYS IN ENGINEERING, AND IN ALL THE OTHER SETTINGS OF OUR GOVERNMENT, IT'S ALWAYS, SO IT'S NOT ABOUT BUT IT'S ALWAYS MET WITH HEARTBURN, DELAYS ARE MET WITH HEARTBURN. I WOULD SAY IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY WE ARE LITERALLY MONTHS IN DELAYS ON THIS ONE.

AND I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW, EVEN THE PRELIMINARY DRAFT FOR ALLOWING COURT MEMBERS THE ABILITY TO SEE WHAT WAS PRESENTED TO US COULD BE USEFUL. BECAUSE WE CAN'T SIT WITH EMPTY OFFICES, BECAUSE OF THIS MONTHS-DELAYED DOCUMENT.

AND SO I HAVE A HARD TIME TELLING PEOPLE THAT ARE HAMSTRUNG AND THROWN INTO A RIVER TO RUN A DEPARTMENT AND SAY WELL, NO, THESE ARE THE -- WHAT WE HAVE ALREADY ADMITTED TO, LOW-PAY POSITIONS AND UNDERSTAFFED OFFICES.

AND I JUST FEEL LIKE WE'RE NOT -- WE'RE NOT MOVING FAST ENOUGH, AND WE NEED TO BETTER PREPARE OUR DEPARTMENTS FOR SUCCESS. AND I'M HAVING A HARD TIME ASKING NOR THIS THERE OUR NEWLY ELECTED OFFICES.

AS YOU KNOW THERE IS SEVERAL TO SIT WITH EMPTY SEATS AND UNDERPAID SEATS. JUST LONGER AND A LITTLE LONGER AND WE REALLY -- AND I'M NOT TRYING TO BE CRITICAL BUT YOU'VE ALSO SAID IN PAST MONTHS, ANY DAY NOW, ANY DAY NOW.

AND IT JUST -- I DON'T SEE THE END IN SIGHT.

AND I'M FEELING UNEASY ABOUT SUPPORTING THIS AGENDA ITEM

MYSELF. >> JUDGE, I'M GOING TO SUPPORT IT TODAY BECAUSE I THINK THAT WE'RE AT A POINT WHERE WE HAVE TO -- WE HAVE TO DRAW A LINE IN THE SAND AND PUT PRESSURE TO GET IT DONE. BUT MY POINT ASK, JUST CONVERSELY TO YOUR POINT ABOUT WE'VE GOT NEWLY ELECTED OFFICIALS TRYING TO FILL POSITIONS.

WE'VE GOT DEPARTMENT HEADS AND WE'VE GOT OTHERS OUT THERE WHO HAVE BEEN WAITING SINCE, YOU KNOW, JUNE OF LAST YEAR AND THEY'VE TOLD THEIR EMPLOYEES LOOK JUST HANG ON WITH US BECAUSE WE'RE GETTING THIS, JUST HANG ON AND I'VE GOT EMPLOYEES COUNTY WIDE THAT ARE JUST TIRED OF HANGING ON.

>> I KNOW. >> I'M AFRAID WE'RE GOING TO START LOSING LONG TERM EMPLOYEES IF WE DON'T ADDRESS IT.

IF WE HAVE A HARD COMMITMENT, I DON'T WANT TO DIE ON THE SWORD OF PERFECT. YOU KNOW WAITING ON PERFECT.

WHENEVER PRETTIY GOOD WOULD GETT US, I'LL BE SUPPORTIVE OF THAT

TODAY, CAN WE GET IT DONE? >> POSSIBLY, POSSIBLY.

I'M -- >> HOW ABOUT WE COMMIT TO AT LEAST HAVING A DRAFT TO ALL OF THE DEPARTMENT REDS.

BEDEPARTMENT HEADS -- BECAUSETRT I CAN, ONCE WE HAVE THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT HAVE BEEN VETTED BY HR THAT THE DEPARTMENT HEADS AND ELECTED OFFICIALS HAVE A CHANCE TO SIT DOWN HOPEFULLY

[02:50:01]

IN THE SAME ROOM AND SEE, BECAUSE INEVITABLY THERE'S GOING TO BE A DEPARTMENT WHY IS THIS PERSON THIS MY OFFICE HERE AND MINE IS HERE TO TRY TO UNDERSTAND WHY THAT RECOMMENDATION CAME TON AND HERE IF SOME OF THESE CIRCUMSTANCES WHERE WHICH SHERRY WAS ALSO VOICING, IF THIS FIRM THAT DOESN'T KNOW US MANY TO MAKE THE RECOMMENDATION, THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT THE OFFICES OR ELECTED OFFICIALS ARE ASKING OF THEM.

I THINK AS ALL THE DEPARTMENT HEADS BE ABLE TO SIT IN THE SAME ROOM AND GO THROUGH THIS WITH. WHY IS THIS INDIVIDUAL HERE AND THEN IN THE OTHER OFFICE THEY CAN HAVE THAT COMMTION, TRY TO UNDERSTAND WHY THAT RECOMMENDATION WAS MADE BEFORE WE ARE THEN ASKED TO APPROVE IT. I DON'T WANT TO APPROVE SOMETHING JUST BECAUSE WE WANT TO MEET THE DEADLINE.

I THINK DEADLINE NEEDS TO BE GETTING THAT BEFORE THE ELECTED OFFICIALS BECAUSE WE CAN'T APPROVE IT UNTIL THEY HAVE HAD A CHANCE TO LOOK AT IT. I THINK WE SHOULD SET A DEADLINE

OF TWO WEEKS. >> COMMISSIONER COHEN.

>> I BASICALLY EXPRISSED SOME OF MY HEARTACHE SOME OF THIS AND IN THE SHORT TIME OF BEING ELECTED TO THE OFFICE, YOU KNOW, I HAVE TALKED TO A LOT OF THE DEPARTMENT HEADS.

AND THE MESSAGE IS CONSISTENT WITH EVERYONE.

AND THESE, YOU KNOW THE LONG TERM EMPLOYEES THAT ARE HERE I MEAN THEY GENUINELY CARE ABOUT THEIR JOB AND THEIR COUNTY.

AND SO, YOU KNOW, THE HOLES THAT ARE IN SOME OF THESE VACANCIES THAT ARE THERE, YOU KNOW, THESE DEPARTMENT HEADS ARE STRUGGLING TO GET THESE PEOPLE THERE.

JUST LISTENING TO THE HISTORICAL INFORMATION ABOUT THIS SALARY STUDY, IT'S BEEN KIND OF DRAGGING ON AND ON, AND EVERYONE'S JUST WAITING AND WAITING.

AND I AGREES WE DO NEED TO SET A DEADLINE TO GET SOMETHING IN TRONT OF US IN FRONT OF THE DEPARTMENT HEADS TO REVIEW.

I HAVE A HARD TIME SUPPORTING THIS.

BECAUSE I KNOW THAT THERE ARE MANY ELECTED OFFICIALS STILL TRYING TO GET KEY INDIVIDUALS INTO THESE SPACES RIGHT NOW TO DO THE WORK RIGHT NOW. SO I DON'T THINK I HAVE ANYTHING

ELSE TO SAY. >> THANK YOU.

ANYTHING ELSE? COMMISSIONER INGALSBE.

>> I WAS GOING TO ASK, IF YOU COULD MAYBE ANSWER THIS QUESTION. I KNOW THAT THERE ARE DEPARTMENTS THAT COMPARE THEIR -- AND I'M JUST GOING TO USE THIS AS A GENERAL TERM. THEIR CLERKS TO ANOTHER OFFICE'S CLERKS THAT THEY DO VERY SIMILAR JOBS YET THEY'RE BEING PAID DIFFERENTLY. ARE WE CONSOLIDATING SOME OF THOSE JOB TITLES TO BE MORE STREAMLINED, OR -- BECAUSE WE HAVE A LOT OF JOB TITLES DON'T WE?

>> WE HAVE A LARGE NUMBER OF JOB TITLES.

ABOUT 240-SOMETHING, CLOSE TO 250 DIFFERENT JOB TITLES.

WE HAVE OVER 40 DEPARTMENTS AND THAT IS PART OF THE COMPLEVMENTD COMPLEXITYTHAT MAG FOUND. PROBABLY ONE OF THE DEPARTMENT CORRELATIONS THAT YOU MAY BE CLERK THAT WORKS IN THE JP OFFICES, COMPARED TO THE COUNTY COURT AT LAW.

COURT ADMINISTRATORS, SO THE JUSTICE OF THE PIECES HAVE HISTORICAL COMPARED THEIR JOBS TO THE COUNTY COURT AT LAW.

AND WE HAVE THEM SEPARATE. WE HAVE THEM IN DIFFERENT GRADES RIGHT NOW. AND THAT -- SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT HAS HAPPENED DURING THIS STUDY TIME, IT HASN'T JUST ALL BEEN DOWN TIME, IS THAT MAG WAS -- WANTED AND OUR DEPARTMENT HEADS AND ELECTED OFFICIALS WANTED TO BE ABLE TO TALK TO MAG. AND SO WE SET UP OPPORTUNITIES AND INVITATIONS FOR EVERY DEPARTMENT HEAD IF THEY WANTED TO, TO HAVE A ZOOM CALL WITH MAG, AND MOST OF THE FEEDBACK I HEARD WAS THAT THANK YOU FOR LETTING US TALK WITH THEM, AND I WAS ABLE TO EXPRESS THAT TYPE OF SITUATION.

SO TO HEAR IT DIRECTLY FROM THE DEPARTMENT HEAD AND NOT JUST THAT POSITION QUESTIONNAIRE AND THEN THE SUPERVISOR'S RESPONSE ON THE POSITION QUESTIONNAIRE. SO MAG IS AWARE OF THOSE TYPE OF SITUATIONS THAT WE HAVE EXPERIENCED AND THAT WE HEAR ABOUT. AND WE WILL ADDRESS THAT IN PLACING THE JOBS. NOW WHETHER THOSE JOBS ARE REALLY THE SAME GRADE OR NOT, WE'VE NOT KEPT THEN IN THE SAME GRADE. THAT'S JUST THE ONE EXAMPLE.

IT COULD BE THAT OUR GRADING SYSTEM COMES OUT DIFFERENTLY

[02:55:01]

WHERE THEY CAN BE COLLAPSED INTO THE SAME GRADE RANGE.

>> COMMISSIONER SMITH. I'M SORRY.

>> I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT I REALLY WASN'T REFER TO THE

DEPARTMENT HEADS. >> THAT THE ONE THAT COMES TO

MIND. >> I WAS JUST TRYING TO MAKE THE POINT THAT I KNOW THAT THAT HAS HAPPENED IN THE PAST.

>> COMMISSIONER SMITH I WANT TO ASK YOU A QUESTION, HAVE YOU HAD ACCESS TO THE RAW DATA THAT MAG HAS BEEN PROVIDED?

>> I HAVEN'T BEEN PROVIDED WITH ANYTHING JUDGE, ONLY VERBAL

CONVERSATIONS. >> YOU HAVEN'T PROVIDED ACCESS?

>> NO WE HAVE HAD A VERBAL CONVERSATION.

>> WOULD YOU PLEASE PROVIDE THE RAW INFORMATION, WE NEED TIME TO PROCESS AS WELL AS THE BODY THAT'S CHARGED WITH POLICY I THINK WE NEED AS MUCH AND ALREADY LOST TWO WEEKS, WE NEED AS MUCH HEADS UP WITH THIS BEFORE US BEFORE WE CAN START TO EVEN UNDERSTAND YOUR EDIT SUGGESTIONS.

>> JUDGE WITH THAT I WOULD SUPPORT WHAT COMMISSIONER SHELL JUST REQUESTED RELATED TO A SIT-DOWN OR AT LEAST SOME TYPE OF ORGANIZATIONAL STRUCTURE MEETING WITH THOSE DEPARTMENT HEADS AND US. EVEN IF WE DON'T HAVE THE FINALIZED REPORT, HAVING A COMMITMENT FOR THAT WITHIN TWO WEEKS, IF WE CAN GET THAT, THEN I WOULD SUPPORT MORE OR LESS WHAT YOU WOULD ARE SAYING A MORATORIUM.

BECAUSE I THINK OTHERWISE EVERY WEEK THAT WE COME IN HERE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE ONE OR TWO DEPARTMENT HEADS WHO ARE GOING TO HAVE THE EXACT SAME REQUEST. AND WE HAVE TO DRAW A LINE IN

THE SAND SOMEWHERE, YOU KNOW? >> WOULD THAT BE SOMETHING THE COURT WOULD SUPPORT AS WAITING TWO WEEKS, HAVE THAT AT LEAST INITIAL REVIEW DONE, WHERE WE WOULD SEE THAT ALL OF THE DEPARTMENT'S ELECTED OFFICIALS WOULD SEE IT, THEY WOULD THEN HAVE A CHANCE TO HASH OUT SOME OF THESE DETAILS BY TWO WEEKS, AND THEN WE WOULD THEN BE ABLE TO THEN CONSIDER EITHER THIS AGAIN OR FURTHER ACTION ASSOCIATED TO IMPLEMENT THIS.

AND THE REASON I HAD THOSE CONVERSATIONS WITH THEM IS BECAUSE I'M ASKING THESE QUESTIONS.

WHERE ARE WE, YOU KNOW, WHERE ARE WE, BECAUSE WE'RE ALL GETTING COMMUNICATION FROM DEPARTMENT AS NEW ELECTED OFFICIALS COMING ONLINE, EVERYONE WANTS TO KNOW THERE'S UNCERTAINTY IT ALL HAS MADE FOR MORE STRESSFUL ENVIRONMENT.

THAT'S THE REASON WE HAD THE CONVERSATIONS, WHAT DO WE NEED TO FINISH THIS? I GOT SOME GOOD INPUT ON THIS, I BELIEVE THEY ARE WORKING ON IT. BUT BEFORE WE CAN FINALIZE, WE HAVE TO HAVE SOME DRAFT OUT FOR EVERYBODY SO WE CAN DEBATE THEM OURSELVES, SOME ISSUES, SO WE CAN REVIEW IT.

>> LET ME SEE HOW WE CAN AS A BODY ADDRESS IT.

COMMIT MS. MILLER TO A TWO-WEEK DRAFT WHATEVER CAPACITY IT'S AT TO BE RELEASED TO DEPARTMENT HEADS AND ELECTED OFFICIALS.

SUPPORT A TWO WEEK MORATORIUM ON ANY ADDITIONAL EDITS FROM DEPARTMENT HEADS, ELECTED OFFICIALS UNTIL THIS DRAFT COMES OUT AND IN THE MEANTIME, IMMEDIATELY, SEND THE FIVE COURT MEMBERS THE RAW DATA YOU HAVE SENT TO YOU FROM MAG.

DID I MISS ANYTHING? >> AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, WHETHER WE NEED ACTION TODAY, I THINK JUST DIRECTION IS FINE.

>> IS ALREADY GOOD ENOUGH. >> I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO TAKE ACTION, AND THEN IN TWO WEEKS WHEN WE'RE BACK HERE WE COULD HAVE A SIMILAR DISCUSSION AND MAYBE HAVE THEN A BETTER IDEA OF WHAT THE DRAFT LOOKS LIKE AND WHAT THE TIME LINE IS GOING TO BE FOR IT TO BE FULLY IMPLEMENTED AND ADOPTED BY THE COURT. IF AT THAT TIME WE BELIEVE THERE NEEDS TO BE SOME HOLD ON NORMAL COURSE OF BUSINESS WE CAN DISCUSS IT THEN, HOW LONG WE'RE WAITING AND WHAT WE ARE GETTING IN THE WAY OF. IS.

>> SO YOU'RE ASKING TO TABLE THIS ITEM?

[K2. Discussion and possible action regarding setting the required bond amounts for certain newly elected County Officials to be sworn in to office January 2023]

>> PRETTY MUCH. >> OKAY.

YOU HAVE CLEAR DREAKS. PLEASE OPEN K-2.

>> DISCUSS AND POSSIBLE ACTION REGARDING SETTING THE REQUIRED BOND AMOUNTS FOR EARN NEWLY ELECTED COUNTY OFFICIALS TO BE

SWORN INTO OFFICE JANUARY 2023. >> SO MOVED.

>> SECOND. >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND.

AND WE HAVE MR. RODRIGO AMAYA SIGNED UP TO SPEAK.

>> THANK YOU JUDGE, COURT. THE ONLY THING I HAVE ON THIS ITEM JUDGE WAS THE, NOT REALLY UNDERSTANDING WHAT THE PURPOSE IS SO IF SOMEBODY CAN KIND OF OFFER A SYNOPSIS, I CAN BETTER UNDERSTAND IT. THANK YOU.

>> VICKY WOULD YOU PLEASE PRESENT THE ITEMS ON THIS?

>> VICKY DORSETT. THE TEXAS ASSOCIATION OF COUNTIES ACTUALLY SETS THE REQUIREMENTS FOR THE BONDS AND ANDOATHS FOR ALL COUNTY OFFICIA. WE THOUGHT IT WAS IMPORTANT TO HAVE AN ITEM ON THAT ACTUALLY STATES THAT THE COMMISSIONER ESCORT WILL REVIEW AND SET THOSE AMOUNTS, SO FOR THE COMMISSIONERS TO SEE EACH ELECTED OFFICIAL'S NEWLY ELECTED OFFICIAL, THE POSITION THEY'RE ELECTED INTO, THE BOND AMOUNT

[03:00:04]

AND WHO THAT BOND NEEDS TO BE MADE PAYABLE TO.

BECAUSE YOU ARE ACCEPTING DELIVERY OF IT SO IT CAN BE RECORDED INTO THE COUNTY CLERK'S OFFICIAL RECORD.

>> SO MR. AMAYA JUST TO RECAP IT IS AN ADMINISTRATIVE DETAIL TO ENSURE THAT BONDS ARE PROPERLY PROCESSED THROUGH COUNTY AND THAT THIS BODY ACCEPT IT AND THE PROPER QUANTITIES.

DOLLAR AMOUNTS I SHOULD SAY. MARISOL.

>> THAT IS IMPORTANT AS WELL BECAUSE OUR BANKING INSTITUTION WILL NEED TO KNOW THAT THE COURT HAS ACCEPTED THESE BONDS SO WE CAN CONTINUE WITH THE TRANSITION OF THE FINANCIAL RECORDS.

>> MARISOL OR VICKY, WOULD EITHER OF YOU WANT TO READ THOSE TO THE COURT OR ARE WE OKAY IN BACKUP?

>> I CAN READ THEM. >> READ THEM SO EVERYONE CAN

HAVE THE UNDERSTANDING PLEASE. >> MARY COHEN, DISTRICT ATTORNEY KELLY HIGGINS, A $5,000 BOND PAYABLE TO THE GOVERNOR.

COUNTY JIMMY HALL, PAYABLE TO THE HAYES COUNTY TREASURER.

COUNTY COURT JUDGE ELAINE SUMMERS BROWN, 200,000 BOND PAYABLE TO THE HAYES COUNTY TREASURER.

JUSTICE OF THE PEACE, SANDRA BRYANT, $5,000 BOND PAYABLE TO THE HAYES COUNTY JUDGE. DISTRICT CLERK, AVERY JAMES ANDERSON, $100,000 BOND PAYABLE TO TH GROWN.

COUNTY TRESH, DAPHNE DAWN TENORIO.

AND I WOULD LIKE TO MENTION THAT THE COUNTY TREASURER'S ORIGINAL GOND NOT COME IN TODAY IT WASN'T SIGNED BUT I HAVE A COPY OF IT HERE AND I WILL PASS THAT AROUND SO YOU HAVE THAT AS WELL.

>> PERFECT, I WAS MADE AWARE MUCH THAT AS WELL, IT WAS PURELY A HOLIDAY MAILING DETAIL. BUT WE HAVE A COPY, YOU SEE IT FLOATING THROUGH, THAT IT HAS BEEN DONE.

THE MOTION IS TO APPROVE ALL OF THOSE AND SECONDED.

PLEASE CALL THE ROL. >> COMMISSIONER COHEN, YES, COMMISSIONER SHELL, YES, COMMISSIONER SMITH, YES, COMMISSIONER INGALSBE, YES, JUDGE BECERRA, YES.

IF I'M NOT -- HERE WE ARE SIR. IF YOU WILL PLEASE OPEN K-4.

WAIT, WAIT, I THINK WE ALREADY DID K-4.

[K4. Discussion and possible action authorizing the County Judge to execute a Texas Workforce Commission Information Release Contract for the Hays County Constable, Pct. #3 Office]

OKAY GOD. >> DISCUSSION AND POSSIBILITY ACTION AUTHORIZING THE COUNTY JUDGE TO EXECUTE A TEXT WORKFORCE COMMISSION FORECAST RELEASE CONTRACT FOR THE HAYES COUNTY CONSTABLE PRECINCT 3 OFFICE.

>> SO MOVED. >> SECOND.

>> AND WE HAVE ONE INDIVIDUAL SIGNED UP TO SPEAK MR. AMAYA.

>> JUDGE, COURT ON THIS K-4 AS I WAS LOOKING THROUGH BACKUP I NOTICED IT MENTIONED SOMETHING ABOUT ACCESS TO CONFIDENTIAL AGENCY DATA. I WAS JUST WONDERING WHAT THAT

MEANS. >> YES, SIR.

>> THANK YOU. >> YOU BET.

COMMISSIONER SHELL. >> THIS IS A STANDARD FORM TEXAS WORKFORCE COMMISSION. I BELIEVE ALL OF OUR AGENCIES PROBABLY ARE A PARTY TO ONE OF THESE.

THE INFORMATION THAT IS PROVIDED BY TWC WOULD INCLUDE WAGE RECORDS, UNEMPLOYMENT INFORMATION, EMPLOYEE MASTER

FILE INQUIRIES. >> SO RECAP A GENERIC PROCESS THAT IS PRETTY CONSISTENT AND STANDARD IN ALL THE OTHER

SPACES. >> I KNOW THAT THEY USE A LOT OF THIS INFORMATION ALSO TO SERVE CIVIL PROCESS TO LOCATE INDIVIDUALS WHO THEY CAN'T OTHERWISE SO THIS INFORMATION IS AVAILABLE TO THEM FOR THAT PURPOSE ALSO.

>> THANK YOU FOR ADDING THAT COMMISSIONER I APPRECIATE THAT.

THANK YOU BOTH. PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

>> COMMISSIONER SHELL, YES, COMMISSIONER SMITH, YES, COMMISSIONER INGALSBE, YES, COMMISSIONER COHEN, YES, JUDGE

[K7. Discussion and possible action to authorize the execution of an engagement letter with Davis Kaufman PLLC for $65,000.04 related to the 87th legislative session of the Texas Legislature and authorize a discretionary exemption pursuant to Texas Local Government Code 262.024 (a)(4) and amend the budget accordingly. SHELL/INGALSBE Click to View]

BECERRA. YES.

K-7 PLEASE. >> DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO AUTHORIZE THE EXECUTION OF AN ENGAGEMENT LETTER WITH DAVIS KAUFMAN PLLC FOR $65,000.04 RELATED TO THE 87TH LEGISLATURE SESSION OF THE TEXAS LEGISLATURE AND AUTHORIZE AND AMEND THE BUDGET ACCORDINGLY.

>> SO MOVED. >> SECOND.

>> WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND. AND WE HAVE ADMINISTRATOR HARVEY

JENKINS SIGNED UP TO SPEAK. >> COMMISSIONERS.

JUDGE BECERRA RAH, I WAS READING THIS AND 65,000 AND FOUR CENTS WHAT DOES THAT GET US FOR THAT MONEY? AND ALSO, FOR LAWYERS TO BE NOT THOUGHT OF VERY HIGHLY ESPECIALLY WHEN THEY'RE GOVERNMENTAL LAWYERS.% AND THERE'S A LITTLE JOKE THAT'S GOING TO BE SAID HERE.

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AND I HOPE THIS DOES NOT BECOME ONE OF THOSE SITUATIONS WHERE THEY BECOME DO WE CHEAT THEM AND HOW.

SO. THANK YOU.

I JUST -- I WANT TO KNOW WHAT THIS IS.

AND WHY WE'RE PAYING $65,000 AND FOUR CENTS FOR IT.

>> YES, THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER SHELL WOULD YOU

LIKE TO ADDRESS THAT ANSWER? >> YES, WE HAVE USED DAVIS KAUFMAN FIRST I BELIEVE THIS IS OUR THIRD SESSION.

IT COULD BE THE FOURTH SESSION. OKAY.

WE HAD SOMEONE ELSE BEFORE THEN. BUT DENISE DAVIS SPECIFICALLY REPRESENTS THE COUNTY WITH THE LEGISLATURE.

SHE IS A HAYES COUNTY RESIDENT AND I THINK HAS DONE A REALLY AMAZING JOB. I WISH THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE TO SPEND MONEY ON THINGS LIKE THIS. THIS IS ONE OF THOSE THINGS.

BUT THE IMPLICATIONS OF A LEGISLATIVE SESSION AND WHAT COMES OUT OF A SESSION I THINK COUNTY AND OUR RESIDENTS DESERVE TO HAVE A VOICE IN WHAT IS SAID THERE AND IT HAS HELPED US IN MANY ISSUES OVER THE LAST FEW SESSIONS.

ESPECIALLY THOSE RELATED TO PROTECTION OF GROUNDWATER PROPERTY RIGHTS COUNTY AUTHORITY ISSUES, AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

THERE'S ALWAYS BEEN OR HAS BEEN FOR SOME TIME SENTIMENT EVEN FROM OUR ONLY LEGISLATURE THAT COUNTY GOVERNMENTS OR ANY OTHER GOVERNMENT SHOULD NOT BE ABILITY TO HAVE REPRESENTATION DURING THE SESSION. WE COLLECTIVELY GET REPRESENTATION THROUGH THE TEM ASSOCIATION OF COUNTIES, THEY DO A GOOD JOB FOR THE MOST PART REPRESENTING ALL COUNTY INTERESTS. WE CHOOSE TO ALSO GEAN DAVIS KAUFMAN BECAUSE OF OUR UNIQUE SITUATION, HIGH GROWTH COUNTY, A LOT DONE AT THE LEGISLATURE CAN AFFECT US.

THERE WAS A LOT OF TALK LAST SESSION ESPECIALLY FOR WHAT THEY CALL TAXPAYER FUNDED LOBBYING, THAT CAME OUT OF EFFORTS BY THE LEGISLATURE TO REDUCE WHAT WE USED TO CALL THE ROLL BACK RATE FROM LOCAL GOVERNMENTS FROM 8% DOWN TO 3.5%.

I KNOW A LOT OF LEGISLATORS FELT THAT THE LOCAL GOVERNMENTS WERE JUST USING THEIR LOBBYING EFFORTS WHETHER IT IS TAC OR INDIVIDUAL PREPARATION TO TRY TO ARGUE FOR HIGHER TAXES.

THAT IS NOT WHAT WE USE DAVIS KAUFMAN FOR.

IN FACT WE DID NOT APPEAR AT THE LEGISLATURE AND ARGUE AGAINST THAT REDUCTION OF THE ROLL BACK RATE, FOR ONE REASON WE HAD NEVER COME CLOSE TO THE 3.5% THAT THE LEGISLATURE HAD APPROVED. THAT WAS A LOT OF TALK OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS HAS BEEN THAT THAT IS WHAT REPRESENTATION HAS BEEN USED FOR BY LOCAL GOVERNMENTS.

WAS TO SOMEHOW MAKE ARGUMENTS FOR HIGHER TAXES WHICH IS NOT WHAT WE USE DAVIS KAUFMAN FOR. THEY DO A GOOD JOB OF IDENTIFYING BILLS AND PROPOSED LEGISLATION THAT THEY BELIEVE WOULD IMPACT THE ABILITY FOR COUNTY GOVERNMENTS TO FUNCTION PROPERLY AND THEN WE CHOOSE IF WE WANT TO MAKE A STATEMENT ON THAT. USUALLY WE DO THAT BY A RESOLUTION. SO IF THERE IS SOMETHING THAT IS SENT TO US THAT PIQUES OUR INTEREST WE THINK THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD HAVE AN INTEREST IN COLLECTIVELY, WE OFTEN CONSIDER THOSE RESOLUTIONS, WE CONSIDER THEM SOMETIMES REMITTED TO GROUNDWATER DISTRICTS AND OTHER TYPES OF AUTHORITIES, SOMETIMES FOR SOMETIMES AGAINST BUT USUALLY THAT'S HOW IT WORK. MR. KENNEDY CAN SEND THAT ONCE DAVIS KAUFMAN PREPARES THE LIST OF BILLS THAT THEY ARE TRACKING, THEN THAT CAN BE DISTRIBUTED TO THE COURT.

THEY'VE ALSO BEEN VERY SUCCESSFUL IN THE PAST SESSIONS TO GET US OUR ADDITIONAL JUDGES THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE THAT, ONE OF WHICH JUST WAS APPOINTED LATE LAST YEAR AND WILL BE TAKING OFFICE NOW, WHICH WAS AN ADDITIONAL DISTRICT JUDGE.

>> I MET HIM. >> SO THAT'S THROUGH THE EFFORTS ALSO OF DAVIS KAUFMAN TO MAKE SURE OUR INTEREST OF GETTING THAT THROUGH IS SHEPHERDED AND OUR ARGUMENTS ARE PROPERLY MADE.

>> YES, SIR. >> JUDGE I JUST SAY I THINK EVERY MEMBER OF THE COURT WITH THE EXCEPTION OF OUR NEW COLLEAGUE OVER SINCE I'VE BEEN ELECTED THE LAST WE HAD TWO LEGISLATIVE SESSIONS AND EVERY ONE OF US HAVE BEEN UP THERE ON DIFFERENT ISSUES OF ONE POINT OR ANOTHER SUPPORTING THE COUNTY.

WEAVER GOT JUST UNDER 600 UNFUND ID MANNEID MANDATES, THAT THE SS UNFUNDED MANDATES. WE'RE NEVER GOING TO COVER ENOUGH, I THINK THAT IS WHAT THIS CONTRACT I SEE AS MORE THAN ANYTHING. AT THE END OF THE DAY, THERE ARE CERTAIN THINGS THAT I ANTICIPATE BRINGING BACK REFLTIONS TO THE COURT ON, SPECIFICALLY ZONING AUTHORITY FOR COUNTIES AND HIGH

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GROWTH AREAS, I MEAN RIGHT NOW WE'VE GOT ISSUES WHERE WE MAY HAVE A CONCRETE PLANT DROPPED IN THE MIDDLE OF A RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD AND BECAUSE OF THE LACK OF ZONING AUTHORITY WE CAN'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT THAT. WE CAN'T EVEN TALK ABOUT IT.

WE JUST HAVE TO APPROVE IT. SITUATIONS LIKE THAT, I ANTICIPATE BRING RESOLUTIONS BACK SPECIFICALLY TO HAVE THIS FIRM AND US AS THE COURT HOPEFULLY SUPPORT AND CARRY OUR

EFFORTS TO THE CAPITAL. >> COMMISSIONER INGALSBE.

>> THANK YOU JUDGE. YOU KNOW I FEEL BASICALLY THE SAME WAY. IT IS DIFFICULT WE HAD NOT DONE THIS FOR MANY, MANY YEARS, TO HAVE SOMEONE GO UP TO THE LEGISLATURE AND REPRESENT US, I THINK WE MADE A CONSCIOUS DISCUSSION NOT TO SPEND OUR MONEY THAT WAY.

BUT THEN IT BECAME VERY I DON'T KNOW, EVIDENT THAT WE NEEDED SOME HELP. BECAUSE IT IS DIFFICULT.

WE CAN'T BE UP THERE EVERY SINGLE DAY AND THERE ARE HUNDREDS AND HUNDREDS OF BILLS THAT GO THROUGH THERE.

I KNOW JIM ALLISON ALSO DOES A GREAT JOB REPRESENTING THE COUNTY JUDGES AND COMMISSIONERS ASSOCIATION AND KEEPS US I HOPE EVERYONE IS HERE ON THAT SERVE LIST THAT HE SENDS THOSE UPDATES TO AND WE CAN FOLLOW THAT WAY. BUT THERE ARE OTHER ISSUES, SUCH AS WAS MENTIONED, YOU KNOW, OUR GROUNDWATER AND PROPERTY RIGHTS AND OTHERS THAT THIS FIRM HAS BEEN HELPFUL WITH.

BUT I GUESS I WOULD ALSO SAY IN THAT RESPECT THAT, YOU KNOW, I'D LIKE A LITTLE -- I KNOW WE GET INFORMATION AND JOHN IF WE GET IT MAYBE AS OFTEN AS WE SHOULD. SO THAT'S ONE THING THAT I REALLY WOULD LIKE TO SEE A LITTLE BIT MORE OF.

MARK IF THAT'S -- YOU KNOW SHE'S SENDING YOU THE INFORMATION AND YOU IN TURN ARE SENGS SENDING IO US.

MAYBE WE CAN HAVE MORE COMMUNICATION THAT WAY.

BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, IT'S -- IF WE JUST GET IT ONCE EVERY SO OFTEN, YOU KNOW, THE LEGISLATURE DOESN'T LAST THAT LONG.

AND I FEEL MANY TIMES THAT I'M BEHIND BECAUSE I REALLY HAVEN'T SEEN INFORMATION OR HAVEN'T BEEN CONTACTED.

I DID MEET DENISE DAVIS AND WAS VERY PLEASANTLY SURPRISED THAT HER EXPERIENCE. I GUESS THE OTHER THING IS THAT I KNOW THAT WE HAVE USED THIS FIRM NOW FOR I THINK FOUR YEARS.

YOU KNOW, AT SOME POINT WE MAY WANT TO OPEN IT UP.

YOU KNOW, WE WANT TO BE OPEN AND TRANSPARENT AND MAKE SURE THAT WE GIVE OTHERS OPPORTUNITY. SO AT SOME POINT WE MAY WANT TO LOOK AT THAT. IT MAY BE THAT WE COME BACK TO THEM BUT I THINK WE AT LEAST OWE OTHERS THE OPPORTUNITY TO

HAVE -- >> AGREED.

>> -- YOU KNOW, AN OPPORTUNITY.

>> AND I THINK THAT'S JUST A GOOD POLICY COMMISSIONER.

IT'S A GOOD POINT. WHATEVER WE'RE DOING LET'S JUST OPEN IT UP. OUR AIR CONDITIONING, OPEN IT, OPEN IT UP TO PEOPLE, THE PLAYING FIELD, WE'RE GOOD THAT WAY AND IT'S MOST USEFUL AND I'M GLAD THAT YOU BROUGHT UP THE PIECE ABOUT INCLUDING US IN THE COMMUNICATION SO MR. KENNEDY ALSO NODDED YES, AS HE GETS COMMUNICATIONS THERE THEM HE WILL FORWARD IT TO US. I'M HAPPY ON THAT FRONT.

COMMISSIONER COHEN, DO YOU WANT TO ADD TO THAT?

>> IT'S NOT URCH UNCOMMON FOR L OR CITY OR STATE AGENCY TO HAVE SWUNG AS A LIAISON DOING THAT WORK AND GATHERING THE INFORMATION SO I 74TH THAT. AND JUST, YOU KNOW, AGREE WITH COMMISSIONER BIRCHTION. INGALSBE..

BECAUSE IT'S BEEN THREE OR 74 YEARS IT PROBABLY SHOULD BE OUTPUT AGAIN, TO A TIME TO EVALUATE THE SERVICE AS WELL.

>> WE HAVE TWO INDIVIDUALS, MR. AMAYA AND MR. DAN LYON.

>> APPRECIATE THE JUDGE COURT, THANK YOU, 65,000.04.

PROVIDE LEGISLATIVE ADVICE TO CLIENTS AS REQUIRED.

OKAY. I WAS AT THE SESSION AS A TROOPER, TWO YEARS. THERE IS A LOT OF INTERNS, LOT OF THESE GOVERNMENT AGENCIES THAT USE INTERNS.

AND I WAS JUST WONDERING MAYBE THAT'S SOMETHING Y'ALL NEED TO TRY TO LOOK AT TO SAVE, THAT'S A LOT OF MONEY FOR SOMEBODY TO BE OUT THERE DOING THAT. THE OTHER QUESTION I HAVE NORMALLY SESSION IS SIX MONTHS AROUND THERE.

I WONDER WHY WE'RE PAYING ANNUALLY, WHAT'S THE PURPOSE OF THAT? THE OTHER THING IS THERE'S LANGUAGE IN THE CONTRACT THAT CLEARLY BOTHERS ME.

IT SAYS ALTHOUGH WE DO NOT ANTICIPATE AND BELIEVE, THAT'S

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TROUBLING. THAT'S RISKY.

YOU KNOW. I CAUTION Y'ALL ON STUFF LIKE THAT. I DON'T ASSUME NOTHING.

AND THE OTHER THING IS, THE LAST THING IS THIS.

IS THIS THE 87TH OR 88TH? THAT'S 2021 WHAT I GOOGLED.

SO I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S TRUTH. COMING FROM A LAW FIRM CLEARLY TELLS ME THEY AIN'T WORK THAT FOUR CENTS AT THE END OF THAT

$65,000. >> JUDGE.

>> THANK YOU SIR. >> I WOULD JUST, TO ADDRESS A COUPLE OF THE SPECIFIC QUESTIONS THAT MR. AMAYA HAD.

MOST OF THESE CARETS THEY DO RUN ANNUALIZED CONTRACTS, BECAUSE EVEN THOUGH SESSION ENDS IN SIX MONTHS THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THOSE BILLS AND THE WORK THAT HAPPENS THROUGHOUT THE INTERIM, THE INTERIM CHARGES THAT BOTH THE GOVERNOR AS WELL AS THE SPEAKER PUT OUT ON THESE INDIVIDUAL ISSUES, I MEAN, I CAN TELL YOU THE HEARINGS THAT HAPPENED AFTER THE SESSION LAST TIME, THOSE INTERIM CHARGES AND INTERIM HEARINGS HAD MORE ARE GOING TO HAVE MORE EFFECT AND IMPACT ON WHAT IS ACTUALLY ALREADY BEEN INTRODUCED AND DRAFTED FOR THIS SESSION THAN ANYTHING THAT HAPPENED TWO YEARS AGO WHEN WE WERE IN SESSION.

AND HAVING MONETIZATION OF THAT IT'S VERY KEY.

AS FAR AS INTERNS, I CAN TELL YOU THAT THEY'RE JUST LIKE ANYTHING ELSE. YOU GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR AND GENERALLY THEY'RE FREE. HAVING INTERNS TAKE OUR MESSAGE TO THE CAPITAL, TO ELECTED OFFICIALS, YOU'RE GOING TO GET

EXACTLY WHAT YOU PAY FOR. >> MR. LYON.

>> THANK YOU JUDGE BECERRA. Y'ALL PRETTY MUCH COVERED EVERYTHING THAT I WAS GOING TO ASK, EXCEPT MAYBE ONE THING.

LET ME JUST PREFACE BY SAYINGS I KNOW THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT WOULD NEVER TRY TO DECEIVE US. BUT EVER SINCE I BOUGHT THAT BRIDGE IN BROOKLYN I'VE BECOME SKEPTICAL, MAINTENANCE ON THAT PUPPY IS WORSE THAN MY TIME SHARE.

I DIDN'T GO TO A&M, COMMISSIONER SHELL DID.

MY ONLY QUESTION IS, HOW IS THE PUBLIC GOING TO HAVE ACCESS TO WHAT THESE LOBBYISTS ARE GOING TO BE LOBBYING ON, AND I WOULD LIKE SOMETHING TO BE ON THE INTERNET SO THAT PEOPLE COULD JUST GO TO IT WITHOUT HAVING TO GO THROUGH THE PUBLIC -- ALL RIGHT 20 QUESTIONS, WHAT AM I TRYING TO SAY, THE LAWYERS OFFICE HERE. IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO GET ANYTHING OUT OF THEM SOMETIMES. AND IT'S TIME CONSUMING SO IF YOU COULD PUT EXACTLY WHAT'S INTERNET, AND PEOPLE COULD ACCESS IT, I THINK PEOPLE WOULD REALLY APPRECIATE THAT. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU SIR. >> WE'LL FIND A WAY TO GET THE LIST OF THOSE BILLS THAT SHOW SOMETHING INVOLVING WHAT WE BELIEVE IS IN THE INTEREST OF HAYES COUNTY.

WE CAN MAKE THAT AVAILABLE, IF NOT WE COULD MAYBE EVEN HAVE A

COURT ITEM WHERE WE -- >> PROVIDE UPDATES.

STANDING ITEM. >> ANY TIME THAT IS, PUT IT IN BY BACKUP. OTHERWISE IT IS BY RESOLUTION OF THE COURT.% WHEN THEY ARE ACTIVELY WORKING ON SOMETHING, THIS BODY RESOLVES FOR THEM TO WORK ON THAT WHETHER IT'S THE CREATION OF A NEW COURT, THE SUPPORT OF A BILL OR AGAINST THE BILL THAT'S WHEN WE DISCUSS THAT AS A BODY AND THEN MAKE USUALLY AGREE ON A RESOLUTION ON LANGUAGE OF A RESOLUTION THAT SATISFIES ALL OF OUR CONCERNS.

AND THEN THEY KNOW THEY HAVE SOMETHING THAT IS FROM THE COUNTY FOR THEM TO GO DO AND THAT'S DONE HERE IN

COMMISSIONERS COURT. >> JUDGE IF YOU REMEMBER THE LAST TIME AND MR. LYON YOU MAY REMEMBER THIS FROM LAST SESSION, WE ACTUALLY PUT ITEMS ON THE AGENDA.

AND MR. KENNEDY YOU MAY RECALL SOME OF THESE BUT WE WOULD PUT ITEMS ON THE AGENDA DURING SESSION THAT WOULD HAVE HERE ARE THE FOUR ITEMS WE ARE LOOKING AT, WE WOULD HAVE DISCUSSION ON THOSE ITEMS AND GIVEN DIRECTION FROM THE COURT.

AND WE DID THAT A NUMBER OF TIMES LAST SESSION IF YOU WILL RECALL AND THOSE AGENDA ITEMS THEY WEREN'T NECESSARILY FAR REACHING BUT THEY WERE VERY SPECIFIC.

AND THEY MAY WANT TO HAVE -- I SAY TWO OR THREE ITEMS ON DIRECTION BUT DIRECTION FOR LEGISLATIVE ITEMS. DO YOU REMEMBER THAT JUDGE? AND WE WOULD DO SOMETHING VERY

PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. >> COMMISSIONER SMITH.

YES, COMMISSIONER INGALSBE. YES, COMMISSIONER COHEN, YES.

[K8. Discussion and possible action authorizing the County Judge to execute a Professional Services Agreement with Dr. Brandy Miller regarding psychological evaluations for the Hays County Sheriff's Office.]

COMMISSIONER SHELL, YES. JUDGE BECERRA.

YES. PLEASE OPEN K-8.

>> DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION AUTHORIZING THE COUNTY

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JUDGE TO EXECUTE A PROFESSIONAL SERVICES AGREEMENT WITH DR. BRANDY MILLER REGARDING PSYCHOLOGICAL EVALUATIONS FOR THE HAYES COUNTY SHERIFFS OFFICE.

>> MOVE. >> SECOND.

>> TWO PEOPLE SIGNED UP. DR. AMAYA AND DR. LYON.

>> THANK YOU JUDGE. ON THIS PS APRIL FOR DR. MILLER IS THIS A RENEWAL OR APPLICATION? IF THIS IS AN APPLICATION I'D LIKE TO KNOW, I WANT ID TO KNOW COMPARED TO THE OLD SERVICES HOW MUCH MONEY ARE WE SAVING AND WHY ARE WE DOING THIS? AND YOU KNOW IF WE DIDN'T HAVE A CONTRACT TO EVALUATE THESE, I KNOW IS REQUIRED, WE'RE IN A WORLD OF HURT. BECAUSE IF THE ATTORNEY RIGHT NOW MR. CRUMP IS GOING TO GET HIS HANDS ON STUFF LIKE THIS AND THERE WAS NONE OF THAT PROVIDED AND THAT INDIVIDUAL DIDN'T QUALIFY OR CERTIFY AS COMPETENT TO BE A LICENSURED PEACE SISTER IN THIS GREAT STATE OF TEXAS HE'S GOING TO USE THAT AGAINST YOU IS. I'M PRETTY SURE MR. KENNEDY KNEW

ABOUT IT. >> COMMISSIONER INGALSBE.

>> JUDGE FOR THE REQUEST I'M NOT CERTAIN IF THIS IS A RENEWAL OR DO YOU KNOW VICKY BY ANY CHANCE? IT DOESN'T SAY THAT.

>> IT IS NOT A RENEWAL. IT IS A NEW CONTRACT THAT THEY HAVE USED MS. MILLER SINCE 2015. OR COLLATERAL REVALS, THE MINIMAL FIT FOR DUTY MENTAL HEALTH ASSESSMENTS.

I THINK BECAUSE THEY'VE BEEN USING FOR OVER A YEAR IT WAS RECOMMENDED BY THE AUDITOR'S OFFICE TO OBTAIN A CONTRACT.