[A. CALL TO ORDER]
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>> LET'S PRAY. LORD, WE ARE GRATEFUL TO LIVE IN A COUNTRY WHERE WE CAN ELECT OUR LEADERS AND PARTICIPATE IN GOVERNANCE. WE PRAY, LORD, THAT YOU WOULD PROVIDE BLESSINGS OF WISDOM EXPIN SIGHT AND GRACE AND CREATIVITY REMIND THOSE THAT SPEAK AND THOSE THAT DECIDE WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ISSUES WE'RE REALLY TALKING ABOUT PEOPLE AND THINGS THAT IMPACT THEIR LIVES, WE PRAY THAT YOU BLESS US TODAY WITH YOUR PREFERENCE.
IN THE NAME OF THE FATHER, THE SON AND THE HOLY SPIRIT, AMEN.
>> COMMISSIONER INGLESBY? >> HERE. >> COMMISSIONER JONES.
[E. PUBLIC COMMENTS]
>> HERE. >> COMMISSIONER SMITH. >> HERE.
>> AND JUDGE. >> HERE. >> THOSE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO HAVE SUBMITTED A PUBLIC PARTICIPATION WITNESS FORM WILL NOW HAVE 3 MINUTES TO SPEAK.
UNFORTUNATELY NO ACTION MAY BE TAKEN AS WE ARE EXPECTED NOT TO RESPOND.
ALL COMMENTS ARE THE OPINIONS OF THE SPEAKERS, NOT MEANT TO BE NECESSARILY CONSTRUED AS TRUE.
PLEASE KEEP YOUR COMMENTS AND LANGUAGE CIVIL AND RESPECTFUL OR WE WILL FORFEIT THE REMAINDER OF YOUR TIME. IN THE SPIRIT OF RESPECT, PLEASE SILENCE YOUR CELL PHONES.
PLEASE SILENCE YOUR CELL PHONES. AND I'VE BEEN ASKED TO PULL, IN CASE ANYONE'S WATCHING OR FOLLOWING ALONG OR HERE, I'VE BEEN ASKED TO PULL K4, AND I7. IS THERE ANYONE HERE THAT WANTED
TO BE A PART K4 OR I 7 IN. >> IT IS CUSTOMER TO GIVE YOU AN OPPORTUNITY TO SAY SOMETHING ABOUT IT EVEN THOUGH WE'RE PULLING IT BECAUSE IF YOU MADE THE TIME TO M COULD, YOU DESERVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS IT IF YOU SO CHOOSE. K4, I7 HAVE BEEN PULLED.
OKAY. FIRST UP, WE HAVE MS. LAURA NUN. YOU WILL PLEASE APPROACH THE
PODIUM, YOU'LL HAVE 3 MINUTES. >> GOOD MORNING COMMISSIONERS AND JUDGE PA SET A.
GOOD TO SEE YOU TODAY. I'M HERE TODAY WITH TWO RESEARCH ORIENTED QUESTIONS ABOUT LAST TUESDAY'S ELECTION AND A FEW QUESTIONS ABOUT TODAY'S AGENDA ITEM WHICH YOU I WOULD LIKE TO EXPRESS HERE. NUMBER 1, WHAT IS THE EXPLANATION FOR A TABULATOR LEAVING THE ELECTIONS OFFICE WITH A DIFFERENT V DRIVE WIRE SEAL THAN THE ONE IT RETURNED WITH? THE ELECTION'S ADMINISTRATOR I BELIEVE IS AWARE OF THIS DISCREPANCY BUT HAS OFFERED NO EXPLANATION. NUMBER TWO, WHEN WILL THE CERTIFICATION OF THE ELECTION TAKE PLACE? HOW IS IT CONDUCTED AND WHERE CAN THE PROCESS BE FOUND IN THE ELECTION CODE? NUMBER 3, TODAY'S AGENDA ITEM INCLUDES, QUOTE, DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO CANVAS THE NOVEMBER 8TH, 2022 GENERAL ELECTION RESULTS, END QUOTE. BUT HAS NO SUPPORTING DOCUMENTATION.
WILL TODAY BE THE FIRST TIME YOU SEE THIS INFORMATION? WILLED.
>> WHAT ACTION CAN BE TAKEN TO CANVAS THE RESULTS? THIS COURT VOTES WAFT LITTLE TO NO DISCUSSION. I GET THAT YOU DOM COURT PREPARED AND YOU MAY NOT NEED A LOT OF DIALOGUE TO VOTE ON SOMETHING BUT COMMISSIONERS AND JUDGE, WE KNOW THE DIALOGUE.
WE KNOW TO HEAR THE DISCUSSION. I HOPE YOU PLAN TO ENGAGE IN OPEN DIALOGUE IN COURT TODAY FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE PUBLIC BEING ABLE TO UNDERSTANDS THE PROCESS KNOWN AS A CANVAS.
AND FINALLY, PLEASE BRIEFLY DISCUSS THE PROPERTIES FOR CONDUCTING THE CANVAS WHEN THE AGENDA ITEM COMES UP, AND FINALLY, PLEASE DISCUSS THE IMPORTANCE OF ACCURACY IN THIS CANVAS AND THE COMING REQUEST FOR CERTIFICATION. THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. NEXT UP, MR. DAN LYON. >> THANK YOU , JUDGE.
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THERE WAS AN ARTICLE IN THE SAN MARCOS STATE OF THE RECORD, I DON'T KNOW, LAST WEEK.ANYWAY, IT IS ENTITLD "STANDARD & POORS INCREASES HAYS COUNTY'S BOND RATING TO DOUBLE A PLUS." HAYS COUNTY'S BOND RATING ROSE FROM DOUBLE A TO DOUBLE A PLUS STANDARD & POORS FINANCIAL SERVICES LLC RECENTLY ANNOUNCED. HAYS COUNTY STATED THAT STANDARD & POORS REPRESENTATIVES MET WITH COUNTY REPRESENTATIVES INCLUDING THE HAYS COUNTY BUDGET OFFICE DIRECTOR, TREASURER AND GENERAL COUNSEL DURING A MEETING ON OCTOBER 19TH. IT IS A HUGE ACCOMPLISHMENT FOR HAYS COUNTY AND SPEAKS VOLUMES TO THE INVESTOR COMMUNITY REGARDING THE TRAJECTORY OF THE COUNTY AND ITS HISTORICALLY STRONG FINANCIAL AND MANAGEMENT PRACTICES.
SAID DAN WE GOMILLER MANAGING DIRECT AT PUBLIC FINANCE INCORPORATED, ADDING THAT DOUBLE A PLUS IS ONE RATING BELOW THE HIGHEST POSSIBLE MARK FROM STANDARD & POORS.
HAYS COUNTY AUDITOR ALONZO SAID THE COUNTY YINTD AN IN DEPTH REVIEW OF CURRENT FINANCIAL REPORTED, ARE BACKGROUND INFORMATION AND FORECASTING DURING THE OCTOBER 19TH MEETING. THE COUNTY SAID THE DOUBLE A PLUS RATING REFLECTS ITS VIEWS OF ITS ROBUST FAST-GROWING ECONOMY, WHICH WILL LIKELY SPUR GROWTH IN THE COUNT'S DEMOGRAPHIC THAT UNDERPIN THE ABILITY OF FUND SERVICE AND INFRASTRUCTURE EXPANSION.
LET ME INTERRUPT RIGHT HERE. WHAT THEY'RE SAYING IS THEY SPECULATE THAT COUNTY GROWTH WILL CONTINUE GROWING AT THE RATE IT'S BEEN THE GROWING, ALTHOUGH, WE'RE ENTERING A RECESSION RIGHT NOW AND THERE'S A GOOD POSSIBILITY THAT THE GROWTH WILL SLOW DOWN.
BUT BASICALLY WE ARE SPECULATING THAT THIS IS GONNA CONTINUE. ALL RIGHT.
WELL EMBEDDED POLICIES AND PRACTICES THAT THE MANAGEMENT UTILIZE TO GUIDE ITSELF BUDGETING AND FORECASTING PROCESS, MULTI-YEAR SURPLUS IS COUPLED WITH VERY STRONG EQITY -- ACQUITITY AND RESERVE AND HIGH DEATH LOAD, PROTECT INFRASTRUCTURE INVESTMENTS BUT SET BY MANAGEMENTABLE COMPENSATION AND OTHER BENEFITS. THE COUNTY STATED THAT AN INCREASED RATING MEANS IMPROVED RATES ON ANY FUTURE BOMBS, GIVES COUNTY COUNCIL PEACE OF BEHIND AND IS A SOURCE OF PRIDE THOSE INVOLVED IN MANAGING THE COUNTY'S FINANCE.
THIS HIGH RATING INCREASE A PRESS TEAMINGIOUS HONOR FOR THE COUNTY.
HAYS COUNTY COMMISSIONER SAID ALONZO IS ALSO THE CAREFUL REFLECTION OF DILIGENT AND FINANCIAL STABILITY OF THE GROWING COUNTY. DEAR SOL, I HOPE THEY MISQUOTED YOU ON THAT, BECAUSE THAT'S CRAZY. ANYWAY, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
>> THANK YOU, MR. DAN LYON. NEXT UP, WE HAVE ENRIQUE ESPENA. THANK YOU, SIR.
>> THANK YOU , JUDGE PASETA AND COMMISSIONERS FOR THE COMMUNITY TO SPEAK.
COMMISSIONER SHELL, THREE WEEKS AGO YOU MENTIONED YOU HAD WON THE RACE IN 2020 BY VERY FEW VOTES AND WITNESSED THE REMAINING BALLOTS AND SEEMED TO BE SATISFIED WITH THE PROCESS.
THE REALITY OF TEXAS ELECTION LAW IS THAT FOR THE REMAINING BALLOT -- REQUIRE AS BALLOT APPLICATION UNDER BALLOT CARE ARIER ENVELOPE. IF ONE OF THOSE IS MISSING, YOU CANNOT HAVE A VALID VOTE. UNFORTUNATELY, COMMISSIONER, I HAVE TO TELL YOU THAT YOU WERE ASSAULTED IN YOUR GOOD FAITH. THE BOARD SHOULD HAVE COUNTED NOT ONLY VOTES, BUT THEY SHOULD HAVE COUNTED THE VOTES ALONG WITH THEIR VALUED APPLICATIONS AND ENVELOPES.
IF THEY WOULD HAVE COUNTED ALL OF THE VALIDS BY MAIL FROM ALL PRECINCTS, THEY WOULD HAVE FOUND A VERY DIFFERENT PICTURE, NAMELY 1,852 LESS APPLICATIONS AND BE 774 LESS ENVELOPES THAT THE TOTAL ABSENTEE VOTES CERTIFIED BY THE COUNTY. 1,180 APPLICATIONS FOR INDIVIDUALS THAT VOTED IN PERSON AND NOT ABSENTEE. 415 APPLICATIONS FROM INDIVIDUALS THAT DID NOT VOTE 170 APPLICATIONS FOR VISIT THAT'S RIGHT WERE NOT IN ALLOWED TO VOTE. 26 REJECTED APPLICATIONS FROM INDIVIDUALS THAT BOLTED.
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1,019 DUPLICATE APPLICATIONS. 62 DUPLICTE AND/OR UNSIGNED ENVELOPES.IN ADDITION THEY WOULD HAVE ALSO FOUND THAT 1,299 INDIVIDUALS WHO VOTED ABSENTEE HAD POTENTIALLY INVALID VOTES FOR NOT COMPLYING WITH THE TEXAS ELECTION CODE. THEY WOULD HAVE ALSO HAVE FOUND 543 APPLICATIONS THAT DO NOT HAVE A MATCHING ENVELOPE. THEY WOULD ALSO HAVE FOUND 4,576 ENVELOPES THAT DO NOT HAVE A MATCHING APPLICATION. IN SUMMARY, THEY WOULD HAVE CONCLUDED FROM THE INFORMATION RECEIVED THAT 6,039 INDIVIDUALS HAVE VOTED ABSENTEE IN THE 2020 ELECTION DID SO WITHOUT A VALID APPLICATION AND/OR ENVELOPE. THAT WOULD BE AROUND 1,750 VOTES. THAT REPRESENTS 48.5% OF THE TOTAL ABSENTEE VOTES OF THE NOVEMBER 2020 ELECTION. I'M OFFERING THESE NUMBERS BECAUSE THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT WE RECEIVE FROM THE COUNTY WHEN WE AUDIT ALL OF THE APPLICATIONS AND ENVELOPES FROM THE 2020 ELECTION. THE ELECTION ADMINISTRATOR DID NOT -- TWO WEEKS AGO IN THE ANSWERS TO THE 2020 ELECTION CONCERNS. WE WONDER IF SHE WILL NOTICE THEM SOME DAY. APPARENTLY NOW IT LOOKS LIKE SUPREME BEEN ASSAULTED IN OUR
GOOD FAITH. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, SIR.
AND IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, THE OTHER ITEM -- THE OTHER SNEAKS HAVE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ARE ALL
DIRECTLY TIED TO AGENDA ITEMS. >> I DO HAVE ONE -- >> OH, OKAY.
YES, MA'AM. >> THIS IS SUBMITTED IN WRITING BY SAM BRANNON.
HE SAYS I'D GIVE NEAR ANYTHING TO SEE A 100% HAND COUNT OF HAYS COUNTY BAGS.
IT SEEMS NATURAL THAT WOULD YOU, TOO. SO WHY DON'T YOU? I'D GIVE NEAR ANYTHING TO HAVE AN ELECTION ADMINISTRATOR WHO PROPERLY TRANSFER ELECTION JUDGES IN THE TEXAS CODE. IT SEEMS NATURAL THAT YOU WOULD TOO, SO WHY DON'T YOU? I'D GIVE ANYTHING FOR THE ACTUAL TRANSPARENCY AND ACCOUNABILITY IN OUR ELECTIONS OFFICE AND AMONG THE REST OF YOU KNUCKLE-HEADS. IT SEEMS NATURAL THAT WOULD YOU
TOO. WHAT'S STOPPING YOU? >> THANK YOU.
UNDER 3 MINUTES. GOOD JOB. IF YOU WILL PLEASE OPEN AGENDA
[F1. Adopt a Proclamation declaring November 15, 2022 as GIS Day. BECERRA]
ITEM F-1. > F-1, ADOPT A PROCLAMATION DECLARING NOVEMBER 15TH, 2022AS GI S DAY. >> SECOND. WHERE AS GEOGRAPHIC SYSTEMS STAY WAS FOUND IN 1999 IT IS NOW A GLOBAL MOVEMENT IN ACKNOWLEDGMENT OF THE POWER THAT GIS HAS BROUGHT TO COMMUNITIES, UNIVERSITIES AND NONPROFITS AND WHERE AS THE HAYS COUNTY DIVISION HAS BEEN PROVIDING CRUCIAL STOFERS HAYS COUNTY DEPARTMENTS AND CITIZENS SINCE THE EARLY 1990S AND WHERE AS THE GI IS DIVISION HAS EVOLVED WITH TECHNOLOGY PROVIDE THE BEST MAPPING AND GEO SPATIAL ANALYTICS IN MODERN DAY, THE USE THIS TECHNOLOGY IS CRUCIAL TO MODERATING AND SUSTAINING KEY ELEMENTS IN OUR COUNTY SUCH AS OUR INFRASTRUCTURE, NATURAL RESOURCES, AND EMERGENCY RESPONSE AND GI S IS ACCOMPLISHED AND SECURE AND COMMITTED TO HELPING CITIZENS LEARN ABOUT HAYS COUNTY GEOGRAPHY IN REAL WORLD APPLICATIONS THAT ASSIST WITH INFORMATIVE DECISION MAKING AND PROVIDING GEOGRAPHIC INFORMATIONING THAT IS EASILY ACCESSIBLE. NOW THEREFORE LET IT BE KNOWN THAT THE COMMISSIONERS COMFORT HAYS COUNTY DOES HEREBY PROCLAIM NOVEMBER 16TH, 2022 AS GI S
DAY, ADOPTED THIS 15TH DAY OF NOVEMBER, 2022. >> OKAY.
WE HAVE A MOTION, WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND.
>> CAN YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLE OH. >> OKAY, DID YOU WANT TO SAY
SOMETHING BEFORE WE VOTE? >> YES , JUDGE. I WANTED TO PROVIDE A FEW LITTLE COMMENTS AND THE GHIETION BEEN WITH THE COUNTY AND PROBABLY HAD 4-4 THAT HAVE BEEN WITH OUR TEAM SINCE THEN, SO RECOGNITION FOR ESSENTIAL MEMBERS WITH 20 YEARS' EXPERIENCE WORKING FOR THE COULD 91 THIS CAPACITY AND WE'VE HAD OTHER MEMBERS JOIN THAT HAS SEVERAL YEARS OF USING THE GI S
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SOFTWARE APPLICATION EXPERIENCE SO IT'S A GOOD TIME FOR THE DOWN HAVE A MIX OF FOLKS THAT ARE PROVIDING SERVICES TO THE PUBLIC AND CITIZENS OF HAYS COUNTY AND WE THANK YOU ALL FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY TO RECOGNIZE THIS DAY BECAUSE WE SEE IT AS A SPRING BOARD OPPORTUNITY TO BE MORE ACTIVE IN THE PUBLIC AND PROVIDE MORE AWARENESS TO THE ABILITIES OF GEOGRAPHIC INFORMATION SYSTEMS AND AWARENESS MOVING FORWARD. MISSIONER INGLES BEE, MISSIONERSHELL, JUDGE PAZT -- SETA. >> YES, STEVE WOULD YOU LIKE TO TAKE THE PODIUM.
>> WE JUST WANT TO THANK YOU FOR RECOGNIZING THIS AS THE 24TH AND 25TH ANNUAL INTERNATIONAL GIS DAY. SORRY WE DIDN'T HAVE TIME MAKE ANY MAP CUPCAKES FOR YOU.
MAYBE NEXT YEAR. WE WANT TO THANK YOU FOR RENEWING THE CONTINUE FURNISHING SERVICES AND WITH WE ALSO HAVE ON OUR DATA PORTAL OTHER MUNICIPALITIES AND EVENTS THAT ARE HOSTING THIS WEEK AS WELL AS NEXT WEEK. I THINK SAN MARCOS IS DONE AS
WELL AS TEXAS STATE. >> AND STEVE, YOU MEAN YOUR RETIREMENT IN 50 YEARS, RIGHT?
>> EXACTLY. >> GIVE OR TAKE. >> STEVE, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP. YOU'VE BEEN WITH THE COUNTY FOR SUCH A LONG TIME AND DO AN AWESOME JOB AND YOU'RE RECOGNIZED WELL THROUGHOUT THE REGIONS AND WE APPRECIATE WHAT
Y'ALL DO, THANK YOU. >> IT'S CUSTOMARY FOR US TO TAKE A PICTURE.
WOULD YOU BE INTERESTED IN A QUICK ?IK. >> COME ON...
THANK YOU SO MUCH. >> DOCTOR WILL YOU OPEN F2. PRESENTATION BY THE MENTAL
[F2. Presentation by the Meadows Mental Health Policy Institute on the mental health needs assessment conducted in Hays County. BECERRA]
HEALTH POLICY INSTITUTE ON THE MENTAL HEALTH NEEDS ASSESSMENT CONDUCTED IN HAYS COUNTY.>> SECOND. >> GOOD MORNING. MY NAME IS MELISSA ROWAN AND THE CHIEF THE OPERATING OFFICERS AT MEADOWS MENTAL HEALTH INSTITUTE. NICE TO SEE YOU ALL THIS MORNING. WE HAVE SUBMITTED TO THE COURT OUR DRAFT OF THE MENTAL HEALTH NEEDS ASSESSMENT FOR HAYS COUNTY. WE WERE IN THE PROPERTIES OF FINALIZING THAT AND FINAL REPORT WILL BE SUBMITTED ON NOVEMBER 30TH.
WE'D LIKE TO THANK THE COURT AND ALL OF THE WORK THAT YOU ALL PUT INTO HELPING US UNDERSTAND THE NEEDS IN HAYS COUNTY AND HILL COUNTRY MHED'S LEADERSHIP WHO PROVIDED US WITH DATA AND A LOT OF INFORMATION ABOUT THE LOT MENTAL HEALTH AUTHORITY'S ROLE IN YOUR COMMUNITY AROUND MENTAL HEALTH. IN ADDITION, WE INTERVIEWED OVER 100 STAKEHOLDERS IN THE COUNTY, EITHER INDIVIDUALLY OR IN GROUP SETTINGS AND RECEIVED A LOT OF REALLY GOOD INFORMATION AROUND THE WORK THAT GOES ON HERE AND THE NEEDS AND GAPS OF THAT WORK. IN ADDITION, AS YOU KNOW FROM READING THE REPORT, WE DID A LOT OF QUANTITATIVE DATA ANALYSIS THAT HELPED US TO UNDERSTANDS THE NEEDS OF A RAPIDLY GROWING COUNTY AROUND THE MENTAL HEALTH NEEDS HERE.
TODAY I WAS GOING TO HYLE A FEW THINGS IN THE REPORT. AS YOU KNOW, IT'S A LENGTHY REPORT. WE ARE FINALIZING IT SO WE ARE MAKING SOME ADJUSTMENTS AND
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INCLUDING SOME ADDITIONAL FINANCIAL ANALYSIS ON THE COST FOR SOME OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS.WHEN YOU DEBATE ON NOVEMBER 30TH, IT WILL BE COMPLETED. THE REPRESENTATIONS WILL NOT BE CHANGED SIGNIFICANTLY FROM WHERE THEY ARE IN THE DRAFT. WE'D BE HAPPY TO COME BACK AFTER THE FINAL REPORT IS SUBMITTED FOR A LONGER PLANNING SESSION WITH OUR LARGER TEAM IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO DO THAT. WE HAVE HOK HERE AND MONICA TYSON FROM OUR TEAM BUT TO DO A REPORT LIKE THIS, THAT LOOKS BROADLY AT MENTAL HEALTH NEEDS OF THE COUNTY TAKES A LARGE GROUP OF EXPERTS AND THAT IS WHAT WE HAVE BACK AT THE OFFICE, WHICH ARE OFFICES ALL OVER THE STATE, BUT TO TALK SPECIFIC ROE TO TALK SPECIFICALLY ABOUT CHILDREN AND YOUTH AND HAPPY TO RETURN AFTER THE FINAL REPORT IS THE SUBMITTED TO HAVE A MORE IN DEPTH DISCUSSION WITH THE
STAKEHOLDERS IN THE UNIT. >> BEAUTIFUL, AND THANK YOU. THIS IS SUCH A -- I OF COURSE WAS A PART OF THIS ALL THE WAY THROUGH AND LUCKY TO HAVE THE PRIVILEGE WITNESS OF THIS AND
FOR THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY OF COURT TODAY. >> WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO TAKE THE
TIME -- A COUPLE HIGHLIGHTS IN THE REPORT? >> I THINK THAT WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA BECAUSE MOST PEOPLE HAVEN'T SEEN A THING. SO THIS WILL BE THEIR FIRST
EXPOSURE TO YOUR WORK. >> OKAY. AS I SAID, WE'LL BE SUBMITTING THE FINAL REPORT ON NOVEMBER 30TH, AND AT THAT POINT HOWEVER WOULD YOU LIKE TO SHARE THE REPORT BROADLY IN YOUR COMMUNITY IS COMPLETELY UP TO THE COURT.
BUT A COUPLE OF THINGS I THOUGHT I WOULD JUST -- SINCE WE HAVE A LIMITED AMOUNT OF TIME AND A LARGE AGENDA TODAY. A COUPLE OF THINGS I THOUGHT I WOULD HIGHLIGHT.
ONE OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS IS AROUND HAVING A BROAD-BASED PLANNING GROUP FOR MENTAL HEALTH SUBSTANCE ABUSE PLANNING IN THE COMMUNITY. WE'VE GIVEN SOME EXAMPLES, EL PASO HAS A BEHAVIORAL HEALTH CONSORTIUM THAT HAS COUNSELS AROUND JUSTICE, INTEGRATION, YOUTH AND FAMILIES THAT'S A NOODLE WE THINK IS WORKING SPECIFICALLY WELL IN EL PASO.
OTHER LEADERSHIP TEAMS AND COMMUNITIES BUT ONE OF THE THINGS WE HAVE IN COMMON HAS BEEN IN THE BROAD BASE. THE CEO OF YOUR LARMER OUTPATIENT CLINICS.
AND SO IT'S A BROAD GROUP IN ADDITION TO ELECTED OFFICIALS AND OTHERS THAT COME TOGETHER AND REALLY TALK ABOUT WHAT RESOURCES YOU HAVE AND HOW YOU MAKE DECISION BESIDE HOW YOU MOVE FORWARD TO INCREASE THE COMBATSITY IN THE COUNTY. ONE OF THE THINGS WE FOUND TALKING WITH STAKEHOLDERS IS THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE DOING GOOD WORK BUT THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT EACH OTHER ARE DOING AND NOT A CENTRALIZED BROAD-BASED PLANNING GROUP.
YOU'VE GOT PIECES OF THAT AND YOUR MAP SOMETHING AN EXAMPLE OF THAT, YOUR MENTAL HEALTH TASK FORCE IS AN EXAMPLE OF THAT. GOING FORWARD WHAT WE HOPE IS THAT THIS REPORT PROVIDES A ROAD MAP FOR A BROAD-BASED GROUP TO REALLY TAKE OWNERSHIP OF PIECES THAT HAVE AND HELP MAKE A PLAN FOR THE COUNTY FOR THE NEXT THREE TO FIVE YEARS ON WHERE YOU'RE HEADED.
THE SECOND THING I THOUGHT I WOULD HIGHLIGHT IS THAT THERE'S NEED FOR AN INCREASED ACCESS TO COMMUNITY BASED SERVICES. WE'VE GOT A COUPLE OF SPECIFIC RECOMMENDATIONS IN THE REPORT AROUND A MOBILE CRISIS OUTREACH TEAM FOR ADULTS THAT'S SPECIFIC TO HAYS COUNTY, WHAT THE LOCAL MENTAL HEALTH AUTHORITY HAS TODAY IS SHARED BETWEEN HEYS AND BLANCO.
AND WITH THE GROWTH IN THIS COUNTY YOU COULD SUPPORT YOUR OWN MOBILE CRISIS OUTREACH TEAM.
SO WE'RE HAPPY TO HAVE MUCH MORE DISCUSSION THAT AND WHAT THAT WOULD COST.
THE STATE TYPICALLY PAYS FOR MOBILE OUTREACH TEAMS BUT THERE'S NOT ENOUGH FUNDING IN THE BUDGET TO SUSTAIN ONE SPECIFIC TO HAYS COUNTY. SO THERE IS A COST TO THAT.
THE OTHER PIECE THAT WE'VE GOT -- ANOTHER PIECE ON OUTPATIENT SERVICES, AROUND AN INTENSIVE CASE MANAGEMENT TEAM. THIS AGAIN IS FOR PEOPLE WITH SERIOUS MENTAL ILLNESS LIVING IN THE COMMUNITY, TO HAVE PEOPLE BE ABLE TO DO COMMUNITY-BASED CARE AND MEET PEOPLE IN THEIR HOMES OR IN DIFFERENT PLACES IN THE COMMUNITY AND TO HELP THEM WITH NAVIGATION OF THE SYSTEM A LOT OF TIMES IN THE URBAN AREAS THIS IS CALLED AN ASSERTIVE COMMUNITY TREATMENT TEAM, BUT WE THINK IN HAYS COUNTY THAT YOU COULD DO WELL WITH AN INTENSIVE CASE MANAGEMENT TEAM, WHICH WOULD BE
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LESS EXPENSIVE, AND HAVE MORE FLEXIBILITY IN HOW IT'S OPERATED AND THE OTHER PIECE I THOUGHT I WOULD HIGHLIGHT IS THE FACILITY OPTIONS. THE FACILITY JUST AS A REMINDER IS A PIECE OF A LARGER CONTINUUM OF CARE. SO IF YOU WERE TO BUILD A HOSPITAL AND YOU DON'T INCREASE ACCESS TO COMMUNITY-BASED SERVICES AND DON'T INCREASE THE DUTY LOG IN THE COMMUNITY ABOUT THE SHARING OF RESOURCES IN THE BROAD-BASED PLANNING GROUP, WHAT HAVE YOU IS A HOSPITAL WHERE PEOPLE CYCLE IN AND CYCLE OUT AND CYCLE IN AND CYCLE OUT.SO IN OUR REPORT WE'VE LAID OUT A CONTINUUM OF SERVICES NO READY TO TRY TO INTERVENE BUT WHEN SOMEONE IS IN CROIX, HOW A CRISIS RESPONDS WELL AND A PLACE LOCALLY, BEDS FOR PEOPLE TO GO IN IN THE BEHAVIORAL HEALTH FACILITY MODEL RECOMMENDATION WHAT WE WERE ASKED TO DO IS PROVIDE OPTIONS FOR YOU AND THE ADVANTAGES AND DISADVANTAGES OF THAT.
WE'VE LAID OUT TWO POSSIBILITIES IN THE FACILITY HEDLE IS -- IN THE FACILITY MODELS.
ONE IS WHAT WE CALLED A HEALTH AND WELLNESS CENTER. SOME PEOPLE CALL THIS A DIVERSION CENTER, SOME PEOPLE CALL IT A TRIAGE CENTER, SOME PEOPLE CALL IT A CRISIS STABILIZATION UNIT BUT PROVIDES SERVICES FOR ADULTS AND CHILDREN 24 HOURS A DAY 7 DAYS A WEEK.
AND WE'VE PRICED IT OUT AS TWO SEPARATE LOCATIONS YOU HAD ONE FOR THE TRIAGE UNIT AND ONE FOR THE STABILIZATION. BUT YOU COULD PUT THE TRIAGE IN BEHAVIORAL HEALTH CLINIC IN ONE LOCATION AND ALSO IN WHAT DIFFERENT LOCATION. THERE'S ALSO PUTTING THEM IN THE SAME LOCATION. THAT'S WHY WE PUT ONE AS THE URGENT HEALTH CLINIC AND ONE FOR THE CRISIS STABILIZATION UNIT. WE KNOW BOTH FOR THIS TO WORK WELL.
TODAY YOU CAN WALK INTO HILL COUNTRY'S OUTPATIENT CLINIC IF YOU'RE IN CRISIS, OPEN 9:00 TO 5:00 MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY, A TRADITIONAL OUTPATIENT CLINIC. THE URGENT BEHAVIORAL HEALTH CLINICS ARE TYPICALLY OPEN 7:00 TO 7:00, OR EVEN 7:00 TO 10:00 DEPENDING ON THE NEED OF THE COMMUNITY AND THAT'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR SOMEONE TO BE BROUGHT IN MY LAW ENFORCEMENT AND THEY'VE BEEN PICKED UP AND IT'S REALLY A MENTAL HEALTH CRISIS, NOT A CRIMINAL CRISIS.
AND THAT HAPPENS OFTEN, UNFORTUNATELY, THAT'S REALLY THE STANDARD OF PRACTICE DIDN'T MANY OF OUR COMMUNITIES ACROSS THE STATE IS THAT SOMEONE IN A HEALTH CRISIS GETS CALLED OUT FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT. WE AVE RECOMMENDATIONS IN THE REPORT ABOUT CHANGING RESPONSE FOR MENTAL HEALTH TO BE MORE MEDICALLY FACING AND WE CAN SPEND MORE TIME TALKING ABOUT THAT TOO, BUT THIS TRIAGE CENTER A PLACE FOR PEOPLE TO EITHER WALK IN ON THEIR OWN, THEIR FAMILY TO BRING THEM OR A PLACE FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT WHEN THEY ENCOUNTER MENTAL HEALTH TO GET SOMEONE INTO TREATMENT RATHER THAN INTO JAIL OR LEAVING THEM IN THE COMMUNITY IF THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO WITH THEM. WE'VE INCLUDED IN THE PACKET A PICTURE OF THE FACILITY THAT IS SCHEDULED TO BE BUILT IN COMEL COUNTY, AND SO YOU CAN KIND OF GET A SENSE SOMETIMES PEOPLE AREN'T SURE WHAT THINGS LOOK LIKE AND IT HELPS SO YOU CAN GET A SENSE OF WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE AND AS A COMMUNITY FACILITY. AND THEN WE ALSO HOK INCLUDED A PICTURE OF A HEALTH AND WELLNESS DESIGN CENTER THA HAVE DONE IN ANOTHER LOCATION. SO JUST TO GIVE YOU SOME SENSE OF WHAT THOSE LOOK LIKE. THE OTHER OPTION THAT WE'VE LAID OUT IS A PSYCHIATRIC HOSPITAL AND THE WHAT THE COST OF THAT WOULD BE AND WHAT THE WORKFORCE WOULD AND YOU'LL SEE BOTH FETS REQUIRED TO OPERATE FACILITIES WHICH IS AN IMPORTANT CONSIDERATION GIVEN OUR
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WORKFORCE CHALLENGES AND THE AMOUNT OF CONSTRUCTION COSTS AND THE ONGOING COSTS.WE ALSO IN THE REPORT SCOPE OUT IF YOU WERE TO BUILD AN INPATIENT FACILITY WHAT WE THINK THE NEEDS ARE THIS IS A FACILITY TULSA THAT HOK BUILT RECENTLY THAT'S BEEN VERY WELL DONE.
SO THOSE ARE THE WAY THAT WE LAID OUT THE FACILITY OPTIONS AND WE INTEND TO LAY THEM OUT THAT WAY IN THE FINAL REPORT UNLESS WE HAVE DIFFERENT DIRECTION FROM THE COURT IF THERE'S OTHER WAYS THAT YOU WANT US TO, ANY OTHER INFORMATION THAT YOU'D LIKE FROM US, ON
THESE RECOMMENDATIONS OR ANY OTHERS. >> SO I'VE HAD THE PRIVILEGE OF MOVING THROUGH THIS IN MANY DIFFERENT SPACE INCLUDING REACHING OUT TO COMEL COUNTY'S LEADERSHIP AND UNDERSTANDING WHAT THEY'RE DOING BECAUSE WE ARENOT IN A VACUUM HAYS COUNTY IS OF COURSE PART OF THE WHOLE EXPM SO MY HOPE IS THAT WE AS A COUNTY SUPPORT WHAT OUR NEIGHBORS ARE DOING JUST 3 MILES SOUTH OF US. SO THAT WE'RE NOT DUPLICATING ANY EFFORTS BECAUSE THIS PATH MUST CONTINUE BUT IT MUST CONTINUE EFFICIENTLY, AND SO IF WE SUPPORT WHAT OUR NEIGHBORS ARE DOING AND AS A REGION SUPPORT ONE ANOTHER, I THINK THAT WILL BE THE HIGHEST AND BEST USE, AND IN MY OPINION HONESTLY, FROM MY ADVANTAGE AGE POINT, THE MOST EASILY DEFENDABLE. COMMISSIONER INGLES BEE, THANK YOU SO MUCH BY THE WAY OF GREAT HYLES AND I BELIEVE WHEN HAVE YOU YOUR COMPLETED VERSION, I WOULD LIKE TO BRING THE COMMUNITY TO MAYBE SOME KIND OF WORKSHOP WHERE THEY CAN SEE THE RECOMMENDATIONS FUTCH, UNDERSTAND AND IT'S CLEARLY MORE THAN I ENVISIONED, THEN THELS WE KNOW TO DRAW THE COMMUNICATION EMERGENCYING SO THAT WE CAN UNDERSTAND IF THIS OUTCOME, WHO'S HELPING, WHAT OTHER COUNTIES IF WE GO THAT ROUTE, WILL BE CONTRIBUTE CONTRIBUTING.
DO WE HAVE THOSE COMMITMENTS. THERE'S STILL SO MUCH WORK TO BE DONE SO MY HOPE IS THAT WE DON'T GENERATE PITCH FORKS OR NAY-SAYERS SAYING NO WAY, NO HOW, NOT HERE, NOT NOW.
THERE ARE TOO MANY REASONS WHY WE MUST MARCH ON. WE JUST HAVE TO DO IT INTELLIGENTLY AND BE GOOD FISCAL STEWARDS AND AT THE SAME TIME BE GOOD REGIONAL MEMBERS.
>> THANK YOU , JUDGE. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THIS REPORT TODAY, AND I AGREE WITH THE JUDGE IN THAT WHEN WE GET THE FINAL REPORT I THINK IT IS GOING TO BE EXTREMELY IMPORTANT THAT WE BRING EVERYBODY TOGETHER TO LET THE COMMUNITY DISCUSS AND OTHER SERVICE PROVIDERS, BECAUSE I THINK WE SAW AT THE SEQUENTIAL INTERSET MODEL, THE WORKSHOP, THAT A LOT OF COLLABORATION WAS LACKING. WE KNEW THAT THERE WERE A LOT OF SERVICES THAT WERE BEING PROVIDED BUT JUST A COLLABORATION WASN'T WHERE IT NEEDED TO BE.
SO I THINK IT WILL BE VERY IMPORTANT TO DO THAT. AND YOU KNOW, YOUR FINDINGS FIT WELL WITH WHAT WE DISMUSES THAT WORKSHOP REGARDING -- AT THE TIME IT WAS A DIVERSION CENTER.
I REALLY LIKE THE HEALTH AND WELLNESS CENTER NAME TO IT, IT JUST FLOWS I THINK A LOT BETTER.
IT'S GOIN TO BE IMPORTANT , JUDGE, I THINK TO BRING EVERYBODY TOGETHER.
LET'S DISCUSS IT AND GET EVERYBODY'S IDEAS. BUT THANK YOU SO MUCH AND LOOK
FORWARD A MORE IN DEPTH DISCUSSION AS WE MOVE FORWARD. >> DID YOU A REALLY GOOD JOB AND AT SOME POINT THERE WILL HAVE TO BE A REGIONAL SOLUTION SOMEWHERE BECAUSE THERE'S NO BOUNDARIES IN THIS AREA. SO THANK YOU. HOW DOES IT WORK ACROSS THE REGION. DO THEY HAVE AN ENCOT JUST TO ASSIGN FOR THE COUNTY AND HOW MUCH ARE THERE. DO YOU HAVE ANY RECOLLECTION OF THAT.
>> ALL OF THE M MAJOR SUBURBAN AREAS HAVE ONE TO TWO TEAMS AND MAY BE MORE IN SOME OF THE
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AREAS. BUT IN THE MORE RURAL AREAS THERE'S OFTEN A SHARED TEAM ACROSS COUNTY LINES SO YOU YOU SEE -- TO EXPECT A RESPONSE FROM ONE END OF HAYS COUNTY TO THE OTHER END OF BLANCO COUNTY IN A REASONABLE TIME TO DEAL WITH MENTAL HEALTH CRISIS, THEN IF THAT'S THE MODEL, THEN YOU JUST HAVE TO BE PREPARED. RIGHT, THERE'S TRADE-OFFS IN EVERYTHING. YOU JUST HAVE TO BE PREPARED THAT THAT'S NOT GONNA BE A VERY QUICK RESPONSE, AND IT'S MORE LIKELY TO BE TELE-HEALTH THAN IT IS TO BE IN PERSON.AND SO I THINK THERE'S TRADE-OFFS IN EVERYTHING, BUT THE COUNTY HAS GROWN SO MUCH THAT YOU ARE AT A SIZE WHERE WE THINK THAT COULD YOU SUPPORT -- YOU COULD KEEP AN ENCOT TEAM
BUSY IN HAYS COUNTY ALONE. >> IS THERE AFTER A DETERMINATION MADE AT THE STATE LEVEL -- IS THERE A POPULATION GUIDELINE THAT YOU USE? IN OTHER WORDS, AS THEY FUND THEIR MENTAL HEALTH PROVIDERS? IS THERE ANYTHING THEY EVER LOOK AT OR SAY WE'VE REACHED A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF PEOPLE IN THESE AREAS, THERE'S THE DEMAND, WE WOULD, EVEN IF IT WAS MATCHING FUNDS FROM THE COUNTY OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT -- I GUESS IN GENERAL, THE CONTEXT OF THIS THIS TOPIC IS THAT STATE OF TEXAS HAS DECIDED FOR WHATEVER REASON NOT TO FUND MENTAL HEALTH SERVICES AT A THREAFL WE ARE HAPPY WITH, WHICH IS WHY WE'RE HAVING THIS CONVERSATION AND MANY OTHERS AT THE SAME TIME. SO WE TALK ABOUT COMMISSIONER JONES MENTIONED A REGIONAL SOLUTION THAT'S IMPORTANT TO ME BECAUSE THERE ARE NO LINES HERE. I'M ASSUMING IF THE STATE OR SOMEBODY BE FUNDED A CRISIS STABILIZATION UNIT THAT THERE WOULD BE A WAY FOR HAYS COUNTY TO ACCESS IT WITH OUR CITIZENS IF IT WAS OPERATED BY OUR LOCAL MENTAL HEALTH AUTHORITY IN CONTBUNGS HILL COUNTRY AND STATE OF TEXAS. SO I GUESS I'M KIND OF LOOKING AT HOW DO WE -- WHEN WE'RE DECIDING WHAT TO DO, AND THERE'S GOING TO BE MULTIPLE THINGS, EVERYTHING FROM FORMING GROUPS CAN SORT OF NARROWING THIS DOWN TO SPENDING DOLLARS ON SERVICES AND FACILITIES, JUST A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF HOW THAT WORKS AT THE STATE AND FOR INSTANCE WHY WOULD WE GO SPEND $50 MILLION ON SOMETHING AND THEN SAY IT'S FULL THE NEXT DAY AND IT'S HALF OF THE PEOPLE IN THERE ARE HAYS COUNTY CITIZENS -- AREN'T.
AND THE STATE OF TEXAS HAS PICKED UP THE BILL. I'M NOT SAYING I'M THAT PESSIMISTIC ABOUT IT BUT IT SEEMS THAT THERE'S A HUGE GAP HERE OF HOW THE STATE PROVIDES FUNDING FOR THESE TYPE OF SERVICES, WHICH HAS TRADITIONALLY BEEN STATE FUNDED, IF THE COUNTY DECIDES WE'RE GOING TO TAKE IT ON, HOW DO WE ENSURE THAT WE'RE INVESTING WITH OUR LOCAL TAX DOLLARS AND BEING USED FOR OUR CITIZENS AND THOSE THAT PAY TAXES HERE IN HAYS COUNTY. I GUESS IT'S AN OVERALL -- I KNOW YOU CANNOT ANSWER THAT IN ONE SENTENCE BUT AS WE'RE GOING THROUGH THIS, WE KNEW WE WERE GOING TO FIND ALL SORTS OF NEEDS, MULTIPLE NEEDS, LAYERS OF NEEDS AND THERE WILL BE RESOURCES OF ALL SOURCES TO MAKE A REALITY. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR CITIZENS ARE THE ONCE THAT ARE BEING SERVED FIRST OR THE STATE NEEDS TO DO WHAT THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO DO TO HELP US.
>> I THINK THERE'S A -- I'LL JUST GIVE AN OVERARCHING RESPONSE TO THAT.
AND I THINK IT'S WORTH A LOT MORE CONVERSATION. SO THE LOCAL MENTAL HEALTH AUTHORITY'S BUDGET HAS A LOT OF HISTORICAL THINGS ON HOW THEY GOT TO WHERE THEY ARE.
BUT THERE IS A POPULATION, AND A POVERTY FACTOR THAT GOES INTO ALLOCATION OF NEW MONEY.
AND SO WHEN THE LEGISLATURE APPROPRIATES NEW MONEY FOR COMMUNITY MENTAL HEALTH, THE LARGER POPULATION GROWTH AND HIGH RATE OF POVERTY, THAT'S PART OF OF THE FORMULA ON THE ALLOCATION. AND THEN THEY ALSO LOOK AT THE AVERAGE DOLLARS THAT HAVE BEEN INVESTED IN THE COUNTY COUNSEL FOR THAT LOCAL MENTAL HEALTH AUTHORITY AND WHETHER OR NOT THAT'S AT AN AVERAGE ACROSS THE STATE OR BELOW AND ABOVE. SO THERE IS SOME OF THAT IN FOR NEW MONEY. THE APPROPRIATIONS AROUND THE FACILITIES HAS BEEN TRADITIONALLY HANDLED SEPARATELY. SO THERE'S OFTEN BEEN A RIDENER THE BUDGET THAT WILL SAY X AMOUNT OF DOLLARS TO BUILD A FACILITY IN MIDLAND.
THE LEGISLATURE HAS BEEN VERY INTERESTED BECAUSE OF THE WAIT LIST TO GET INTO THE STATE
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HOSPITAL IN REGIONAL AND COMMUNITY BASED SOLUTIONS. THEY'RE DOING THAT PARTLY THROUGH THE PRIVATE PSYCHIATRIC BED FUNDING THAT GOES TO LOCAL MENTAL HEALTH AUTHORITY AND WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THAT IN THE REPORT. HILL COUNTRY RUNS OUT OF THAT MONEY EVERY YEAR BEFORE THE END OF THE YEAR, BUT ABOUT 40% OF THOSE DOLLARS ARE GOING TO HAYS COUNTY RESIDENTS. THERE'S A POSSIBILITY I THIS THAT THAT'S ONE OF THE AREAS WHERE AS LOCAL ELECTED OFFICIALS YOU COULD BE HAVING CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THE STATE ABOUT THE NEED FOR THOSE TYPES OF FUNDING WHERE YOU COULD PURCHASE BEDS LOCALLY.IF YOU WERE TO BUILD A FACILITY, I THINK SOME OF THAT MONEY COULD BE USED TO BUY BEDS IN THAT FACILITY, WHERE AS RIGHT NOW FOR HAYS COUNTY RESIDENTS, HILL COUNTRY'S BUYING BEDS IN AUSTIN AND SAN ANTONIO. WITH THAT -- THOSE FUNDS. AND THEN THERE'S ALSO BEEN -- THE LEGISLATURE HAS IN SOME CASES APPROPRIATED FUNDS TO BUILD THE FACILITY LIKE THE ONE IN COMEL. BUT THERE'S ALSO FACILITY IN OPERATIONS, AND SO SOMETIMES IT'S A MIX OF FUNDING. SO I THINK PART OF THIS -- PART OF THE DECISIONS TO BE MADE BY THE COURT IS WIVE THESE THINGS DO YOU WANT TO GO TO YOUR LEGISLATIVE DELEGATION WITH AND SAY THESE ARE THE NEEDS WE HAVE IN THE COUNTY AND WE WANT TO PARTNER WITH THE STATE ON FUNDING NOSE AND WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE. THERE ARE IN MANY OF THE FACILITY-BASED -- THE LOCAL GOVERNMENTS ARE PUTTING IN SOME FUNDING BUT NOT FUNDING ALL OF IT. AND SO I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT WAYS THAT YOU CAN SLICE THAT, BEING PREPARED WITH DATA, WHICH IS PART OF WHAT WE TRY TO PROVIDE YOU SO THAT YOU CAN MAKE THE CASE FOR WHAT THE COUNTY NEEDS AND THEN HAVE THOSE DISCUSSIONS ON WHAT PART OF THAT IS FUNDED BY THE COUNTY AND WHAT PART THAT IS FUNDED BY THE STATE.
>> AND THERE IS ONE TINY LITTLE PIECE ID LIKE TO ADD IN THE CONTRIBUTION OF FUNDING IS, I HAVE EVERY INTENTION -- I'VE ALREADY TOUCHED IT, BUT I WILL REVISIT IT WITH THE NEIGHBORHOODS COUNTY JUDGES FOR THEM TO NOT ONLY CONTRIBUTE WITH THE BUILDING OF THE BRICKS AND MORTAR FACILITY, AS I KNOW THROUGH PLANNING AND ZONING FOR MEDICAL ZONING AND COMMISSIONER FOR SO MANY YEARS. IT'S NOT THE BRICKS AND MORTAR. THAT'S JUST ONE TASK.
THE REAL EXPENSE STAFFING IT, A FIRE DEPARTMENT, FOR EXAMPLE, AND SO I BELIEVE THAT THERE IS A FUTURE ROAD MAPPED THIS AS WE COULD SAY FOR EVERY CALDWELL COUNTY RESIDENT THAT COMES INTO OUR FACILITY WE WOULD HAVE A CONTRIBUTION OF X DOLLARS. I DON'T WANT TO COMPARE IT TO OTHER DLATS WE HAVE SO THE LOAD WOULD BE SHARED BY THOSE THAT USE IT.
I'M CONFIDENT AS YOU HIGHLIGHTED, THE NEED IS MULTILAYERED AND EVER PRESENT AND ADDRESSING IT IN THE MOST COMPLETE MANNER IS ABSOLUTELY THE MOST USEFUL.
IF YOU WANT TO GO FAST GO ALONE. IF YOU WANT TO GO FAR, GO TOGETHER.
COMMISSIONER SMITH? >> THANKS , JUDGE. I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR TAKING THE TIME THAT DID YOU LAST WEEK MORE IMPORTANTLY THE TIME THAT YOU'VE DONE WITH THE CONTRACT. I APPRECIATE Y'ALL'S PARTICIPATION AND THE WORKSHOP WITH COMMISSIONER INGLESBY AND I AND REALLY A LOT OF THE IDEAS THAT CAME OUT OF THAT.
THEY'RE VERY PRESENT IN YOUR DRAFT AND THEY'RE VERY OBVIOUS IN YOUR DRAFT.
I DO LIKE THE IDEA, AND AS WE'VE DISCUSSED IN THE PAST, I DON'T THINK THAT HAYS COUNTY -- THIS IS PERSONALLY -- NEEDS TO FULLY FUND A LARGE-SCALE MENTAL HEALTH HOSPITAL FOR ALL OF THE SURROUNDING COMMUNITIES WITHOUT SOME TYPE OF INPUT FROM THEM. I DO LIKE THE CONCEPT AND ILLUSTRATION FOR THE DIVERSION CENTER OR HEALTH AND WELLNESS CENTER.
REALLY WHAT WE KNOW TO DO IS ADDRESS THE CRISIS THAT'S IN FRONT OF US AND THOSE ARE THE INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE IN THAT CRISIS SCENARIO, THAT FIRST FIVE, 10 DAYS, NOT LONG-TERM CARE. THAT'S WHAT OUR STATE FACILITIES ARE FOR AND THAT'SES WHAT SOME OF THESE OTHER FACILITIES ARE FOR. AS WE LOOK AT A POSSIBLE FACILITY HERE, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I WOULD DEFINITELY WANT US TO DO, AND I THINK THAT THE TASK FORCE THAT YOU MENTIONED EARLIER WOULD BE A REAL KEY TO THIS, IS TO LOOK AT THOSE, YOU KNOW -- THOSE FOLKS IN THE COMMUNITY THAT WE KNOW ARE EXPANDING AT FACILITIES HERE, WHETHER THOSE ARE, YOU KNOW -- WHETHER THAT'S SETON OR CHRISTA'S, WHATEVER IT MAY BE.
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HAVING THOSE DECISION-MAKERS IN THE ROOM IN SOME SORT OF OFFICIAL CAPACITY SIT PART OF THIS CONCEPT. I BELIEVE IT GIVES THE COUNT AN THIEWNLT WE MAY NOT HAVE NOW TO ACTUALLY GET OUR FINGERS DOWN INTO AND FIGURE OUT WHERE THOSE NEW FACILITIES ARE GEOGRAPHICALLY IN THE COUNTY, WHAT THOSE ACTUAL SERVICES THAT WILL BE PROVIDED WITHIN THOSE FACILITIES ENTAILED, AND IT MAY GIVE US THE ABILITY TO DO SOME CAUTIONARY WITH SOME OF THOSE PARTNERS AS THEY EXPAND AND START TO BUILD THE FACILITIES. WHEN THE BRICK AND MORTAR DOES COME, IT'S A WHOLE LOT CHEAPER, LESS EXPENSIVE, MUCH MORE LESS EXPENSIVE TO OUR CITIZENS, IF WE CAN BE PART OF SOME GREATER FACILITY THAN IF WE START FROM SCRATCH.AND I'M, YOU KNOW -- WHETHER THAT'S HAVING A FLOOR ON A NEW HOSPITAL OR HAVING AN ANTI-BUILDING ON ANOTHER FACILITY THAT THEY'RE BUILDING, I THINK THOSE ARE OPPORTUNITIES WE KNOW TO LOOK AT IN PARTNERSHIP WITH OUR COMMUNITY PARTNERS AS THEY EXPAND THEIR SERVICES HERE BECAUSE WE KNOW, GIVEN OUR POPULATION, THAT THOSE INDIVIDUALS THAT PROVIDE BOTH MENTAL AND PHYSICAL HEALTH SERVICES ARE ACTIVELY LOOKING FOR ANY LOCATIONS AND IF WE CAN CO-LOCATE WITH THEM, I THINK IT WILL BE LESS EXPENSIVE FOR US AS HAYS COUNTY BUT IT WILL ALSO BE RIGHT WHERE WE KNOW IT AS FAR AS THE PROFESSIONALS.
OVER TIME, GIVEN THE NEED FOR PERSONNEL AND STAFFING THAT THIS WOULD TAKE, HAVING THEM PART OF A LARGER SYSTEM IS SOMETHING THAT, FROM A PROFESSIONAL STANCE -- I'VE SPOKEN TO SEVERAL MENTAL HEALTH PROFESSIONALS ABOUT THIS, THEY DON'T NECESSARILY WANT TO WORK FOR HAYS COUNTY NEW THAT CAPACITYITY. IF THEY'RE PART OF A LARGER OPERATION, IF THEY'RE PART OF AN EMPLOYEE-BASE OF ONE OF THESE OTHER FACILITIES OR ONE OF THESE OTHER PROVIDERS THEN THERE'S AN ABILITY FOR THEM TO IN THAT NETWORK AND POSSIBLY THE PAY MAY BE DIFFERENT, THOSE KIND OF THINGS AND IF THEY WERE A DIRECT COUNTY EMPLOYEE IN MESSAGES HEALTH SERVICES, SO I THINK THERE'S SOME TBOANS THAT THAT WE MAY SEE INTRINSICALLY THAT AREN'T NECESSARILY OUTLINED IN THE REPORT. THERE'S NO WAY TO DO THAT, YOU KNOW. BUT WITH THAT AGAIN, I DO APPRECIATE YOU'RE LISTENING THE OTHER DAY AND THE THE TWO OR THREE POINTS FROM THE DRAFT THAT I BROUGHT UP I WOULD REALLY APPRECIATE BY NOVEMBER 30TH IN THE FINAL DRAFT, IF YOU HAVE A LOOK AT THE COUPLE OF THINGS THAT WE PRESENTATION MENTIONED AND AGAIN JUST THANKS FOR TAKING THE TIME.
>> AND I WILL SAY THROUGHOUT THIS WHOLE PROCESS, THE IDEA HAS ALWAYS BEEN FOR NOT TO BE A COUNTY RUN OPERATION. JUST AS A HEADS-UP, NO ONE, I BELIEVE, HAS THAT IDEA SO THANK YOU SO MUCH. WE'RE GOING TO GO TO K-9 AND THEN K11, SO THAT FOLKS
[F3. Update by Staff from the Office of General Counsel on the Hays County Animal Control Ordinance. BECERRA]
UNDERSTAND THE SEQUENCE AND THE PROCESS AND IF THEY'RE WATCHING, THEY COULD KEEP WATCHING OR THEY COULD TUNE IN LATER. WHATEVER THEY'RE DOING. SO IF YOU WILL PLEASE OPEN F3.>> F3. UPDATE BY STAFF FROM THE OFFICE OF GENERAL COUNCIL ON THE HAYS COUNTY ANIMAL CONTROL ORDNANCE. THAT IS JORDAN, I BELIEVE, WILL PROVIDE US THE UPDATE.
ASSISTANT GENERAL COUNCIL WITH THE OFFICE OF GENERAL COUNCIL. I GOT A LITTLE BIT OF AN UPDATE ON SOME PROGRESS WE'VE MADE LATELY. WE'VE HAD SOME MEETINGS AND SOME CONVERSATIONS WITH THE CITY OF SAN MARCOS TO STAY UP TO DATE ON THE TIMELINES THIS HAVE GOING THERE, AS WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT IN THE PATHS, WE TRY TO MAKE SURE WE DUCK TAIL WHAT THE CITIES ARE DOING IN AN EFFORT TO BE CONSISTENT PENALTY AND MOST IMPORTANTLY BECAUSE WE UTILIZE THEIR SHELLER CURRENTLY SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT ALL OF OUR REVISIONS AND OUR PLANS AND
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GOALS LINE UP WITH ONE ANOTHER. THE CITY HAD THEIR FIRST READING OF THEIR ORDNANCE PROVISIONS I BELIEVE IT WAS NOVEMBER 1ST, AND SOME OF THE CITY COUNCIL THERE HAD SOME RECOMMENDATIONS AND SOMED ED IS TO GIVE TO THE STAFF THERE. THEY VOTED ON SOME, TALKED ABOUT SOME CONCEPTS AND HAVE INCORPORATED SOME CONCEPTS INTO THEIR CURRENT DRAFT.THEY'RE HAVING A SECOND READING OF THAT ORDNANCE TONIGHT AT THEIR MEETING THIS EVENING.
SO WE'LL SEE HOW THAT GOES THERE SOME OF THEIR POSSIBLE CHANGES WILL AFFECT OUR DRAFT TO MAKE SURE WE STAY IN LINE WITH THEM. SOME OF THE THINGS THAT THEY HAVE BEEN DISCUSSING ON CHANGING ON THEIR DRAFT ARE SEVERAL THINGS, BUT SOME OF THE HIGH POINTS ARE.
THE STRAYS IN RELATION TO CATS AND DOGS AND HOW LONG THE HOLDS LAST WITH THE SHELTER BEFORE THEY BECOME PROPERTY OF THE CITY AND ARE AVAILABLE FOR ADOPTION AS WELL AS THE NUMBER OF IMPOUNDMENTS REQUIRED, FOR LACK OF A BETTER WAY OF PUTTING IT, BEFORE AN ANIMAL IS REQUIRED TO BE STERILIZED. SO THOSE ARE SOME OF THE BIGGER TO INS THAT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT TONIGHT. AND I PLAN ON LISTENING TO THEIR CONVERSATIONS AND SEEING KIND OF WHAT THEY DISCUSS AND HOW THAT MAY AFFECT OUR DRAFT, TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE CONSISTENT WITH THEM. I HAVE NOT HEARD ANYTHING ABOUT THE CITIES OF KYLE OR BERUDA.
OUR FOCUS IS SAN MARCOS, I THINK THEY'RE KIND OF TAKE THE LEAD SENSE THEY'VE GOT THE SHELTER.
I WILL CONTINUE TO MAKE NOTES, COMMENTS AND UPDATES, OUR DRAFT IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE CITY AND LISTENING TONIGHT SEE HOW THEY DECIDE ON THOSE TOPICS ON WHAT KIND OF ROUTE THEY'RE DECIDING TO GO, WITH THEIR DISCUSSIONS TONIGHT. SO I MIGHT BE ABLE TO ANSWER SOME QUESTIONS THAT YOU GUYS MAY HAVE, IF YOU HAVE ANY. THAT'S KIND OF WHERE WE SIT
RIGHT NOW. >> I THANK YOU FOR YOU'RE STAYING VIGILANT ON THIS.
THE REASON I BROUGHT THIS FOR AN UPDATE THIS WEEK WAS LAST WEEK I WAS AT THE SHELTER WITH OUR MAGNIFICENT COWORKER SHERRY, AND WE LITERALLY HAVE -- COMMISSIONERS, WE LITERALLY HAVE AN ENTIRE SECTION OF THE SHELTER WITH HAYS COUNTY COLLECTED CATS THAT THESE POLICIES THAT WE ARE MANEUVERING THROUGH, COORDINATING, SYNCHRONIZEING, AN ENTIRE ROOM OF CATS ARE BEING TIED UP, HELD IN CAGES BECAUSE OF THIS POLICY AND THE SHELTER NEEDS OUR ACTION.
THEY'RE DESPERATE FOR HELP, AND THESE TINY EDITS ON PAPER, YOU KNOW, PUTTING EYES -- PUTTING THESE LITTLE LIVES TO THIS POLICY IS EVER SO PRESSING WHEN YOU'RE STANDING BEFORE THEM.
AND THESE ARE FOR THE MOST PART, HONESTLY SPEAKING, CATS THAT WON'T GET ADOPTED.
I COULDN'T PET SOME OF THEM, NO, I COULDN'T PET ANY OF THEM, OKAY.
PUT YOUR FINGER NEAR THE CAGE AND THEY'RE COMING AT YOU THERE'S NOTHING USEFUL ABOUT WHAT WE'RE DOING AS A COMMUNITY THIS SPACE AND THAT'S WHY I WANT TO KEEP MARCHING ON WITH THE RETURN EFFORT AND IN ITS EXPEDITIOUS RESPONSIBLE WAY AS POSSIBLE BECAUSE WE'RE HELPING NO ONE WITH WHAT WE'RE DOING RIGHT NOW. AND JORDAN HAD ASK IMMEDIATE TO
OPEN K-9 AT THE SAME TIME, SO I WILL NOW ASK THAT WE OPEN K-9. >> I JUST OPEN -- SUGGESTED
[K9. Discussion and possible action on a recommended interim community cat management policy to move toward the recommendations of the completed feasibility study conducted by national experts, Team Shelter USA. BECERRA]
OPENING IT UP AT THE SAME TIME BECAUSE THEY KIND OF PIGGYBACK ON EACH OTHER.>> TO MOVE TOWARD THE RECOMMENDATIONS OF THE COMPLETED FEASIBILITY STUDY CONDUCTED BY
NATIONAL EXPERTS TEAM SHELTER USA. >> SECOND...
>> MOTION AND SECOND, WHO WOULD LIKE TO LEAD THAT CONVERSATION? JORDAN?
WHILE YOU'RE SIPPING. >> SORRY ABOUT THAT. >> NO PROBLEM.
NO PROBLEM. OH, I'M SORRY. YOU KNOW WHAT, I JUST REALIZED I HAVE A COUPLE OF FOLKS SIGNED UP TO SPEAK, SO LET ME GIVE THEM A CHANCE AND WE'LL CALL YOU BACK.
FIRST WE HAVE NICOLA. IF YOU WILL PLEASE APPROACH THE PODIUM, WILL YOU HAVE 3 EL NINO
SPEAK. >> THANK YOU , JUDGE, COMMISSIONERS INGLESBY, JONES, SHELL AND SMITH FOR YOUR ONGOING WORK ON BEHALF OF THE ANIMALS IN HAYS COUNTY AND THE PEOPLE AND COMMUNITIES THAT CARE FOR THEM. I'M MICKEY LUDKIN AND A HAYS COUNTY RESIDENT AND ANIMAL VOC,
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I'M ALSO THE COORDINATOR FOR COMMUNITY CAT COALITION, WHICH IS AN ALL VOLUNTEER ORGANIZATION DEDICATED TO ENHANCING THE LIVES OF COMMUNITY CATS IN HAYS COUNTY AND WITH GOAL OF CONNECTING THESE CATS TO PEOPLE, SERVICES AND RESOURCES THROUGH TEAMWORK, THEY WORKS AND SUSTAINABLE PARTNERSHIPS. I VOLUNTEER AT THE SAN MARCOS REGIONAL ANIMAL SHELTER AND HAVE SEEN FIRSTHAND HOW COMMUNITY CATS ARE EFFORTLESSLY IMPACTED BY THEIR IMPOUNDMENT IN THE KENNEL FOR A PROLONGED PERIOD OF TIME. I ALSO VOLUNTEER THE PAL'S TNR CLINICS AND HAVE SEEN THE TERRIFIC SPIRIT OF CONCERN AND GOODWILL OF RESIDENTS WHO FEEL THAT THEY'RE IMPROVING THE LIVES OF COMMUNITY CATS BY TRAPPING, FIXING AND RETURNING THEM BACK HOME. THIS IS WHY TODAY I'M SPEAKING IN SUPPORT OF THE RECOMMENDATION INTERIM COMMUNITY CAT MANAGEMENT POLICY AS HAYS COUNTY MOVES TOWARDS THE RECOMMENDATIONS WITH THE COMPLETED FEASIBILITY STUDIED REGARDING THE ANIMAL ORDINANCE PROVISIONS.A PROVEN EFFECTIVE STRATEGY SPECIFICALLY FOR COMMUNITY CATS IS TRAP TO RETURN AND SHELVESSER TO RETURN. A COMPREHENSIVE COUNTYWIDE TNR FLAM PERMITS RESIDENTS TO PLAY AN ACTIVE ROLE IN HAVING A POSITIVE IMPACT ON COMMUNITY CATS WOULD ENHANCE THE LIVES FOR ALL OF OUR ENTIRE COUNTY RESIDENCES. PROVISION OF ORDNANCES SHOULD BE A THOUGHTFUL PROCESS AND TAKES TIME, BUT THERE ARE COMMUNITY CATS IN THE KENNELS AT THE SHELTER WHO NEED US NOW. CATS LIKE 1-YEAR-OLD TULIP LEADERSHIP, 3-YEAR-OLD ALEX â– AND 8-YEAR-OLD SHAVON WHO TODAY HAS BEEN AT THE SHELTER ONE DAY SHORT OF THREE MONTHS.
THE STAFF AT THE SHELTER NEED OUR SUPPORT NOW TOO. ADOPTION OF THE INTERIM COMMUNITY CAT MANAGEMENT POLICY WOULD ADDRESS AN URGENT NEED AS WELL AS PROVIDE A PRACTICAL STUDY AND ROAD MAP FOR THE FINAL ORDNANCE REVISIONS. IT MAKES GOOD FISCAL AND PRACTICAL SENSE TO YOUR CONSTITUENTS TOO. THANK YOU FOR RECOGNIZING THE NEED FOR AN INNOVATIVE APPROACH TO ADDRESSING THE ISSUE PRESENTED BY COMMUNITY CATS.
CATS IT PAYS STANDS READY TO ASSIST NEW THIS ENDEAVOR. THANK YOU SO MUCH.
>> AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR DEDICATION ON THIS FRONT IN THIS ENDEAVOR.
NEXT UP, WE HAVE MS. SHERRY VOYAT FROM THE HAYS COUNTY JUDGE'S OFFICE.
I FEEL SO PROUD THAT YOU'RE HELPING US THE WAY YOU DO. >> THANK YOU, SIR.
>> GOOD MORNING , JUDGE PACERA -- BECERRA AND COMMISSIONERS.
THERE'S A CHART THAT THE INITIAL BAR GRAPH IS FROM OUR SHELTER USA CONSULT ACTS THAT WE HAVE HEARD FROM LAST JUNE. THIS COMPARES ITS HAYS COUNTY INTAKE FOR CATS, AND YOU'LL SEE THAT WE ARE INPUT INTO THE POPULATION IS A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF -- JORDAN AND I HAVE AN EXTRA ONE THAT I DON'T THINK YOU WERE ABLE TO GET. EVERYTHING JORDAN SAID IS PERFECT, AND THERE HAVE BEEN SOME COMPLEXITIES. I'M UNDER THE IMPRESSION THAT TONIGHT THERE WILL BE A CASE THAT WILL BE IN SUPPORT OF WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TODAY.
EVERYONE THAT IS FROM THE STAFF OF THE SAN MARCOS NEIGHBORHOOD ENHANCEMENT THAT ANIMAL SERVICES IS UNDER HAS BEEN PRESENTING MULTIPLE TIMES WHICH IS ENCLOSED IN THE POSITIVE LIMITATION PLAN HAS AGREED THAT SHELTER NEUTER RETURN TO TNR, ALL OF THEM MEAN THE SAME THING.
PUT THE CATS BACK AFTER STERILIZING THEM AND STOP IMPOUNDING THEM AND HOLDING THEM FOR STAFF AND CONSTITUENTS TO PAY FOR IN TERMS OF TIME AND DOLLARS.
SO IN YOUR PACKAGE I'VE PRESENTED WHAT WAS EXHE ATTRACTED AND DIRECTLY, I'VE MADE NO CHANGES FROM THE POSITIVE OUTCOME PLAN. YOU WILL NOTE THIS SAYS PENDING PARTICIPATE FROM GOVERNMENT PARTIES. NOW, THE PLAN WAS DRAFTED FROM A RESOLUTION DECEMBER, 2018. SO THAT'S BEEN SITTINGS AROUND FOR FOUR YEARS, TRYING TO GET US TO DECIDE TO BUY IN AS A COUNTY AND LET THESE CATS BE MANAGED IN AN EFFICIENT WAY.
WE WERE USING THE WORD "EFFICIENT" AND "COLLABORATION" ALSO.
THIS IS THE SAME TYPE OF CONCEPT. FOUR YEARS AGO IN OCTOBER THE COMMISSIONERS VOTED ON A RESOLUTION. THE HAYS COUNTY NO KILL RESOLUTION. THIS IS ALL PART OF THAT. TRAP NEUTER RETURN IS AN ESSENTIAL PART OF THE NO KILL EQUATION. SO DISCONTINUE THE IMPOUNDMENT AND HOLDING OF COMMUNITY CATS, STERILIZE THEM AND PUT THEM BACK.
AGAIN, THIS WAS ALL PARTS OF THE FEASIBILITY STUDY. EVERYONE NATIONALLY IS SAYING
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THE SAME THING THAT'S IN ANIMAL WELFARE. THIS IS NOT SOMETHING WE MADE UP. I ENCOURAGE TO YOU PLEASE IMPLEMENT THIS POLICY.LET'S FIX THE PROBLEM BY FIXING THE CATS. I ALSO WANT TO POINT OUT TO YOU, I HAVE EXTRACTED THE SAN MARCOS DATA DIRECTLY OFF OF THEIR WEB SITE FOR THE SAME TIME PERIOD OF 2021. YOU'LL NOTICE THAT THERE WERE 5,000 ANIMALS BROUGHT INTO THE SHELTER SO THE SAME THE FACILITY, WHICH WE ARE CONTRACTING TO SCIEL CONTRACTING TO, BUETA IS CONTRACTING TO, THAT WE KNOW IT'S OVERCAPACITY AND UNDERSTAFFED.
THOSE PEOPLE THAT ARE WORKING THERE HAVE THE HARDSHIP OF MANAGING THESE CATS THAT ARE NOT TAME. SO BY REMOVING THE CAT PROBLEM AND LETTING THE CATS BE TNR'D WE WILL THEN ALLOW THEM TO BE MORE EFFICIENT AND HAVE LESS STRESS AS A WORKER.
WE WILL ALLOW THEM TO HAVE TIME TO IMPLEMENT PROGRAMS AND DO OUTREACH AND TO TAKE BETTER CARE OF THE 100 AND ALMOST 60 DOGS THEY HAVE NOW AND SOME OF THE CONTACT THAT ARE OBTAINED AND ADOPTABLE. SO AGAIN THIS IS NOT WHAT NO-SKILL SUPPOSED TO BE, HOLDING THESE CATS, EVEN THOUGH THEY ARE ALIVE, WE DON'T WANT THEM EUTHANIZED AND NO ONE IS SAYING THAT. WHAT WE ARE SAYING IS THAT IT IS BEST PRACTICES ACROSS ALL UNDERSTANDING, ALL VETERINARIAN EXPERTS, DR. KATE HURLEY, DR. LEVY, DR. BRAZNO AND LITTLE OLE' ME FOR A LONG TIME COMING UP HERE AND BEGGING YOU GUYS, AND I'M SURE THE COMMISSIONERS ON THE GOVERNMENT PARTNERS OUTREACH WILL ALSO AGREE THIS IS WHAT THE GOVERNMENT SHOULD BE
DOING TO SUPPORT THE CONSTITUENTS. >> NOW, DON'T WALK AWAY.
YOUR 3 MINUTES HAVE EXPIRED AND I WANT TO BE CONSISTENT WITH THE PROCESS OF RUNNING THIS COURT BUT I DO WANT TO INVITE YOU BACK. WELCOME BACK.
AS I WANT TO ASK YOU QUESTIONS AS A HELPER OF OUR OFFICE AND SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR 3 MINUTES.
AND NOW I WANT TO ASK YOU, WHAT IS IN THE WAY RIGHT NOW? BECAUSE YOU KNOW THIS BETTER THAN I DO. I LIKE TO SAY I KNOW NOTHING, AND I LEAD WITH -- I LOOK TO THE LEADERS IN THIS SPACE, WHICH IN MY HEAD, ARE YOU ONE OF THESE LEADERS IN OUR COMMUNITY.
WHAT IS GETTING IN THE WAY OF US TODAY DOING A TNR POLICY IS THAT WE AS A COUNTY DON'T CONTRIBUTE, AND WE CAN HELP RELEASE THOSE CATS THAT AREN'T DOMESTICATED, THAT AREN'T SOCIALIZED.
WHAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN RIGHT NOW FROM THIS COURT SO THAT WE CAN HELP THE DESPERATE SUFFOCATION
THAT THE CITY IS EXPERIENCING. >> THEY'RE REQUIRED TO STERILIZE THE ANIMALS BEFORE THEY'RE RETURNED OR ADOPTED. THAT PIECE IS COVERED. IT WOULD BE BACK TO WHERE ANIMAL PROTECTION, OR IN OUR COUNTY WE CALL THE OFFICERS ANIMAL CONTROL.
IT'S A FIELD OFFICER, JUST A DIFFERENT LABEL, THAT THEY WOULD BRING THEM BACK AFTER STERILIZATION. THOSE CATS THAT ARE HEALTHY, THOSE CATS THAT BY BODY WEIGHT APPEAR TO BE HAVING A FOOD SOURCE. SO THAT MAY BE A MATTER OF ADMINISTRATION THAT KEEP THE RECORDS OF EACH CAT, WHICH THEY DO HAVE RECORDS AND THEY WOULD BE STABILIZED AND THOSE THINGS THAT I'M SAYING THEY ARE ALREADY VACCINATED AND STERILIZED WHEN
THEY COME IN, WHAT'S IN THE WAY IS A POLICY. >> BECAUSE THE WAY I UNDERSTAND IT, WE'VE DONE ALL THE WORK. OUR OFFICERS HAVE ALREADY PICKED THEM UP, THAT'S TOUGH ALREADY.
THEY'VE ALREADY DONE THE WORK AT THE FACILITY. THEY'VE DONE EVERYTHING NECESSARY. THEY'RE SITTING IN A CAGE, BUT OUR TINY SNAG IN POLICY HERE AND ON OUR DESK AND OUR COURT IS NOT ALLOWING THEM TO BE RETURNED. AND SO WHAT CAN WE -- AND I KNOW I'M GETTING AHEAD OF THIS, JORDAN, BUT I'M FRAMING THIS FOR YOU, AS WELL.
WHAT CAN WE DO RIGHT NOW TO ALLOW THEM TO BE RETURNED BECAUSE, AS YOU'VE SAID, OUR OFFICERS HAVE DONE THE GOOD JOB OF DOCUMENTING WHERE THEY WERE PICKED UP.
>> JUDGE? >> IS IT OUR POLICY THAT'S KEEPING THEM FROM BEING RETURNED OR IS IT THE SHELTER'S POLICY THAT'S KEEPING THEM FROM BEING RETURNED.
>> SAN MARCOS HAS HAD TRAP NEUTER RELEASE ON THE BOOKS SINCE I'VE BEEN ON THE COMMITTEE 12 YEARS AGO. IT IS OUR POLICY AND IT'S GOING TO BE -- I'VE ALREADY GOT THE LANGUAGE I CAN READ TO YOU WHAT'S BEEN RECOMMENDED. THEY ARE GOING TO JUST START PUTTING THEIR FOOT DOWN. I MEAN, I THINK COMMISSIONER SHELL MENTIONED THAT LAST TIME, TO BE ABLE TO CONTINUE TO USE THAT FACILITY UNTIL OUR SHELTER IS BUILT, AND BECAUSE WE WANT TO DO THE BEST PRACTICES, AND OTHER CITIES IN OTHER COUNTIES ARE DOING THIS ALL OVER THE STATE, ALL OVER THE COUNTRY. ONE OF THE THINGS I WANTED TO SAY IS I'M GOING TO QUOTE THE SHELTER MANAGER WHO'S HAVING TO JUGGLE ALL THIS. SHE SAID IT WOULD BE A GAME
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CHANGER IF THIS HAPPENED. THAT THIS IS AN ENORMOUS BURDEN ON THEM.>> I WANTED TO CHANGE THE GAME TODAY. >> AND I JUST WANT TO KNOW IF IT WAS OUR POLICY THAT -- IF WE DO THIS, IS THE SHELTER'S GOAL ON WHATEVER WE JUDGE? AND ARE THEY CANCELED THEIR OWN OR ARE PEOPLE COMING TO PICK THEM UP?
>> BOTH. >> BOTH. ONE PROBLEM IS OUR ORDNANCE, THAT DOES NOT ALLOW AN ANIMAL CONTROL OFFICER TO RETURN A CAT AS WRITTEN RIGHT NOW.
>> EXACTLY. >> SO WE COULD APPROVE THIS POLICY, WHICH WE COULD SAY IT'S GONNA BE IMPLEMENTED IN THE ORDNANCE, BECAUSE IT IS. BUT IT WILL NOT -- NOTHING WE DO TODAY WILL BECOME EFFECTIVE UNTIL WE CHANGE OUR ORDNANCE AS FAR AS OUR ANIMAL CONTROL OFFICERS GO AND THEY ARE UNDERNEATH THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE, SO WE COULD PASS THINGS ALL DAY LONG THAT TELL OUR SHERIFF WHAT TO DO. OUR SHERIFF IS GOING TO DO WHAT THEY BELIEVE IS BEST, AND RIGHT NOW WITH THE THE ORDNANCE THE WAY IT IS WRITTEN, OUR OFFICERS ARE NOT GOING TO USE THIS POLICY BECAUSE OUR ORDNANCE DOES NOT ALLOW THEM TO.
>> I'VE BEEN TOLD IN RESEARCH THAT MANY COMMUNITIES HAVE INTERIM POLICIES WHILE ORDNANCES
ARE BEING EVOLVED, SIR. >> BUT WE AREN'T THE BOSS OF ANIMAL CONTROL, SO WE CAN PASS THINGS ALL DAY LONG BUT IF WE DON'T WORK WITH THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN, THEY'RE LIKELY NOT GOING TO DO ANYTHING WHAT WE KNOW IS THE ORDNANCE TO ALLOW OUR ANIMAL CONTROL OFFICERS TO DO THIS PROGRAM WHICH IS GOING TO BE PART OF THE ORDNANCE.
IF NOT, THEY MAY, THEY MAY NOT, I DON'T KNOW. I DON'T KNOW HOW THEY WOULD EVEN -- SOMEONE WOULD HAVE TO BUILD THE PROGRAM FOR THEM, WHAT ARE THEY GOING TO DO.
>> SO JORDAN I'LL ASK THIS BECAUSE I KNOW THAT THIS IS A REQUIREMENT THAT THE CITY -- THIS IS SOMETHING THAT THE CITY IS GOING TO REQUIRE AT SOME POINT IN ORDER FOR US TO UTILIZE THE ANIMAL SHELTER. AND SO -- AND I WAS GONNA SAY THAT I'M READY TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS INTERIM POLICY AND WAS GOING TO ASK THE QUESTION, THOUGH.
I KNOW WE'VE HAD SOME PRELIMINARY DISCUSSIONS WITH THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE AND THIS TNR TRAP AND RETURN. SO HAVE WE HAD IN DEPTH DISCUSSIONS WITH THEM? HAVE YOU HAD -- I HAVE NOT. AND IF WE WERE TO GO AHEAD AND APPROVE THIS TODAY, ARE WE GONNA GET THEIR COMMITMENT TO IN FACT TAKE THE ANIMALS AND COME BACK AND PICK THEM UP AND RETURN THEM. SO A COUPLE OF THINGS TO THOSE -- IN RESPONSE TO THOSE QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONER. WE HAVE NOT HAD IN DEPTH CONVERSATIONS WITH THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE AT THIS POINT. I THINK EVERYONE IS HEADED TOWARDS THE SAME GOAL.
BUT THERE'S A LOT OF QUESTIONS AND NUANCES ON HOW WE APPROPRIATELY GET THERE.
FOR EXAMPLE, WHEN WE MET LAST NIGHT WITH THE CITY, THEY DIDN'T HAVE A VET ON STAFF YET.
AN EXAMPLE THERE. BIGGER -- AND THEY MAY NOW. THIS WAS A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO.
BIGGER PICTURE, I THINK HONESTLY ADOPTING THIS INTERIM POLICY OR POLICY STATEMENT AND FOR A LOT OF REASONS IT CAUSES CONFUSION. THE ORDNANCE DOESN'T SAY THAT YES BUT THIS INTERIM POLICY DOES. YOU KNOW, THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE HASN'T BEEN COMPLETELY BROUGHT IN ON EVERY SINGLE DETAIL AND HOW WE ACCOMPLISH THESE GOALS. AGAIN, I THINK WE ALL HAVE THE SAME GOALS. IT'S HOW WE GET THERE AND HOW WE GET THERE WITHOUT CONFUSION AND WORKING WITH THE CITY TO GET THERE. AND, YOU KNOW, OTHER EXAMPLES LIKE TRAPS. YOU KNOW, A TRAPPING PROGRAM LIKE THE CITY HAS, I BELIEVE, THEY CALL IT -- I DON'T KNOW THE PROPER TERMINOLOGY BUT A TRAP RENTAL TYPE AGREEMENT.
WE DON'T HAVE THAT SET UP YET. JUST ASPECTS LIKE THAT TO MAKE IT SMOOTHER, RUN BETTER WOULD BE HELPFUL AND LESS CONFUSING TO BE HONEST WITH YOU. AGAIN, I THINK WE'RE ALL HEADED TOWARDS THE SAME GOAL BUT I THINK ADOPTING SOME SORT OF INTERIM RULE OR POLICY CAUSES
MASS CONFUSION AT THIS POINT, TO BE HONEST WITH YOU. >> AND I KNOW THAT THE LAST MEETING WE HAD WITH THE CITY REPRESENTATIVE JUST A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO, SHE MENTIONED THAT IT WOULD BE BEST FOR THEM TO KIND OF FINALIZE THEIR ORDNANCE BEFORE WE MOVED FORWARD WITH ORS, AND SO HE -- SO I GUESS THAT -- YOU KNOW, IT'S BEEN ASKED SEVERAL TIMES, WHERE ARE WE, HOW LONG DO YOU ANTICIPATE THE REVISIONS BEING COMPLETE TO THE ORDNANCE?
>> RIGHT NOW IT'S UP TO THE POINT WHERE -- I WANT TO SEE WHAT THE CITY COMES UP WITH TONIGHT AND/OR IF IT HAS TO HAVE ANOTHER READING OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
WE KNOW MORE CONVERSATIONS WITH THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE. THERE IS A COUPLE POLICY
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QUESTIONS I NEED TO WORK OUT ON OUR END. BUT YOU KNOW, I JUST -- JUST AN EXAMPLE, ONE OF THE MAIN -- I'LL SAY MAIN. ONE OF THE TOPICS THE CITY IS DISCUSSING TONIGHT, AND THERE WAS KIND OF SOME DIFFERING OPINION ON IT LAST TIME THEY MET, WAS A STRAY HOLD PERIOD FOR CATS OF ANY AGE WITHOUT IEFTION. I THINK CURRENTLY THEIR DRAFT HAD PUT THAT THERE WAS NO HOLD. SO WHILE IT SEEMS SMALL, IT CAN BE SIGNIFICANT.I KNOW THERE WERE CONVERSATIONS ON HOW THESE CHANGES COULD AFFECT THE LIVE OUTCOME RATE, AS WELL, WHICH WE ALSO WANT TO KEEP IN MIND BECAUSE WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THAT HERE.
SO, YOU KNOW, I DON'T WANT TO PUT AN EXACT TIME ON IT BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW IF THE CITY IS GOING TO NEED TO HAVE ANOTHER READING OF IT, BUT I WOULD SAY ONCE THE CITY FINALIZE THEIRS, WE COULD HAVE OURS DONE -- AGAIN, ASSUMING EVERYTHING PANS OUT THIS YEAR AND WE HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS TIMELY WITHIN THE NEXT COUPLE OF MONTHS I WOULD THINK.
WITHIN A COUPLE MONTHS AFTER THE CITY ADOPTING IT. >> AND SAN MARCOS IS THE ONLY
ONE WE REALLY NEED TO WAIT ON. >> I THINK SO. IDEALLY WE'D LOVE TO BE ON THE SAME PAGE BUT OUR FOCUS HAS BEEN, AND COMMISSIONER SHAUN, COMMISSIONER INLESS BEE, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, OUR FOCUS HAS BEEN THE CITY OF SAN MARCOS BECAUSE WE RELY ON THEM, WE KNOW THEM AND WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE IN LINE WITH THE CITY OF SAN MARCOS IN ANY WAY WE CAN BE.
>> DO WE HAVE INDICATION FROM THE SHERIFF THAT THEY DON'T WANT TO DO THIS ORDNANCE?
>> I PERSONALLY HAVEN'T BUT HOW DO WE ACCOMPLISH IT, WHAT'S THE BEST WAY TO ACCOMPLISH IT.
BUT I PERSONALLY HAVE NOT HEARD ANY RESISTANCE. >> SO LOGISTICALLY, THEY WOULD BRING THE CATS IN, THEY'D GET NEUTERED AND THEY'D HAVE TO KEEP UP WITH WHERE THEY PICKED THEM
UP AND RETURN THEM TO THE SAME PLACE THEY PICKED THEM UP. >> YES, THIS WOULD OR WE COULD DO THAT WITH A VOLUNTEER PROGRAM WITH THE COALITION, WHICH I'M PART OF.
I WILL SAY THAT THERE IS A CONTRACT IN VETERINARIAN THAT DOES THE STERILIZATION NOW AND ALWAYS HAS BEEN. THEY DON'T HAVE A STAFF PERSON BUT -- I MEAN, THEY HAVE TO HAVE CONTRACTING VETERINARIANS TO DO THE ADOPTION AND HOUSING PROGRAM.
SO THE CATS ARE STERILIZED. AS FAR AS THE TRAPS, I HAVE 30 I JUST PURCHASED BRAND-NEW.
THE CITY OF SAN MARK CHEESE PURCHASED 30 FOR PART THEIR TOOL PROGRAM AND THE SHELTER HAS SOME AND SOME OF THE LOCAL VETS HAVE SOME TO LOAN. SO WE'VE ALL BEEN PLANNING FOR
THIS FOR A YEAR OR MORE. >> AND LOGISTICALLY, ONCE WE IMPLEMENT THIS, ARE THEY GOING
TO MARK THAT CAT SOME WAY? >> YEAH, THE EAR TAG. IT'S VISIBLE SO YOU CAN SEE IT
SO THAT -- >> YOU DON'T WANT TO KEEP BRINGING IN THE SAME CATS.
>> EXACTLY. THAT'S PART OF OUR -- >> IT'S AN EASY THOANG SEE?
>>> IT'S A GREAT QUESTION, COMMISSIONER. AND MOST PEOPLE DON'T KNOW WHAT WE'RE DISCUSSION, AND SO I WILL RECAP IT IN THE MOST SIMPLIFIED WAY POSSIBLE WITHOUT TRYING TO BE DISRESPECTFUL TO ANY OFFICE. OUR SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT IS ALREADY PICKING UP CATS, TAKING THEM TO THE SHELTER THAT THE COUNTY DEPENDS ON THAT'S RUN BY THE SIT.
THEY'RE DOING ALL THE WORK, THEY'RE FEEDING THEM, THEY'RE NEUTERING THEM, THEY'RE DOING EVERYTHING. AND BECAUSE WE HAVE -- AND I BELIEVE THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT'S ANIMAL CONTROL HAS NO PROBLEM RETURNING THEM. AGAIN, THEY'VE DONE ALL OF THE THE LEG WORK OF CAPTURING THE DOCUMENTATION OF WHERE THEY PICKED THEM UP.
WE HAVE A SUFFOCATING -- LITERALLY A SUFFOCATING NUMBER OF CATS, OF ALL PETS, SITTING IN THIS FILL, AND WE ARE READY TO BE RETURNED, AND WE LITERALLY HAVE VOLUNTEERS THAT WE DON'T 77 TO LEAN ON THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT TO DO THIS. WE LITERALLY HAVE AN ARMY OF VOLUNTEERS READY AND WILLING TO RETURN THESE CATS DO WHERE THEY WERE FOUND BECAUSE IN THE MEANTIME, THEY ARE DYING A LITTLE BIT EVERY DAY -- THEY ARE DYING A LITTLE BIT -- I'LL TRY TO GO BETWEEN COUGHS. THEY ARE DYING A LITTLE BIT EVERY DAY THAT WE LEAVE THEM IN THERE. AND IT IS HEART-BREAKING TO SEE, AND WE HAVE VOLUNTEERS READY.
ALL THE WORK HAS BEEN DONE. WE HAVE VOLUNTEERS READY TO JUST RETURN THEM TO WHERE THEY WERE
FOUND. >> SO CAN WE DO SOMETHING TODAY, MARK AND/OR JORDAN, THAT WOULD
ALLOW THE VOLUNTEERS TO RETURN THEM? >> MR. KENNEDY, HELP US THREAD
THE NEEDLE. >> WELL, I HAVEN'T BEEN ACTIVE ON THIS, BUT I HAVE BEEN MONITORING IT THROUGH JORDAN, AND I DO KNOW THE POLICY THAT WAS SUBMITTED, THAT IS -- LOOKS
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LIKE A FLYER. WAS NOT PRODUCED BY OUR OFFICE OR ANY ONE IN THE COUNTY.AND I BELIEVE MS. BAYETT PROVIDED IT. THAT FLYER AND THE POLICY THAT WAS PROPOSED IN THAT INCLUDED SOME TERMS OR CONDITIONS OR POLICIES THAT I DON'T BELIEVE ARE IN STEP WITH WHAT WE WOULD ULTIMATELY HAVE. SO WE COULD LOOK AT THAT POLICY, DISSECT IT, TRIM OW THE DOLLARS ARE NOT GOING TO BE LONG TERM IN IT.
I BELIEVE IT CAN PASS AN INTERIM POLICY THAT DID MORE THAN WHAT OUR ORDNANCE OR WHAT OUR POLICIES AND PRACTICES WOULD DO WOULD CREATE CONFUSION. SO JORDAN MAY BE ABLE TO HYLE SOME OF THOSE. I DON'T HAVE IF RIGHT HERE IN FRONT OF ME, BUT JORDAN, CAN YOU
HEIM THOSE AREAS THAT ARE ABOVE AND BEYOND WHAT WE -- >> SO IF WE DON'T -- IF WE DON'T ADOPT ANY KIND OF INTERIM ORDNANCE TODAY, IS THERE ANYTHING PROHIBITING VOLUNTEERS TO GO AND PICK UP THESE ANIMALS AS SOON AS I DON'T KNOW. WOULD THE CITY OF SAN MARCOS
ALLOW THAT TO HAPPEN? IF THEY ARE FIXED -- >> OUR POLICY DOESN'T ALLOW IT.
>> NOT EVEN VOLUNTEERS IF THEY -- >> I THINK THERE'S POLICY AND AN
ORDNANCE. >> YEAH. >> AND THE PROBLEM, WE RAN INTO OUR ORDNANCE A FEW YEARS AGO. I WAS AT THE COUNTY WHEN I HAD 1 FIVE PHONE MEN AS DAY BECAUSE OF
A DOG ISSUE THAT WAS AN EXTREMELY SAD STORY. >> ANGEL.
>> YEAH. OUR ORDNANCE SOUNDED LIKE SOMETHING THAT WAS WRITTEN IN 1850. SO THE COUNTY AT THE TIME, I WASN'T SITTING HERE, REACTED BY TRYING TO MODERN SIZE THAT ORDNANCE TO THE CERTAIN DEGREE BECAUSE OF THE LANGUAGE IN IT WAS SO ANTIQUATED. SO WHAT WE'RE IN A SITUATION NOW IS, YES, I THINK WE CAN TELL THE SHELTER BY RESOLUTION, ALLOW PEOPLE TO PICK UP ANY CAT BROUGHT BY THE COUNTY.
SO YES, WE CAN STRUCK THAT TONIGHT SHELTER AND I'M SURE THEY WOULD FOLLOW OUR WITNESS ON IT. OUR ORDNANCE I THINK WOULD SAY THAT'S ILLEGAL FOR AN ANIMAL TO BE DROPPED OFF SOMEWHERE IN THE COUNTY. DIDN'T SO NOW CAN WE ASK OUR ANIMAL CONTROL TO UNDERSTAND INTERIM, YES, OF COURSE, BUT IT'S THE TECHNICALITY THAT ORDNANCE SAYS THAT IS ANYTHING HAYS COUNTY. AND SO NOT ONLY OUR OFFICER NOT GOING TO DO IT, IF THEY READ THAT ORDNANCE IN ITS BLACK AND WHITE FORM.
SAYING THAT THEY WOULDN'T FOR US BUT A CITIZEN COULD POTENTIALLY BE AT RESK BY DROPPING OFF AN ANIMAL SOMEWHERE THAT'S FOLLOW THEIR PROPERTY AND THAT'S WHERE I THINK THE CONFUSION COMES IN.
I THINK WE COULD DOT ORDNANCE QUICKER AND ADOPT INTERIM AND SAY IT WILL BE INCORPORATED INTO THE ORDINANCE. IT IS INCORPORATED INTO DRAFL ORDNANCE.
BUT UNTIL THE ORDNANCE IS APPROVED, I STILL THINK THERE IS THIS CONFUSION, AND THERE IS POTENTIAL FOR SOME RISKS IF SOMEONE READS THE ORDNANCE AS IT IS WRITTEN BECAUSE IT WOULD NOT BE CONSIDERED LEGAL. IF THE CITY WERE TO PASS THEIR ORDNANCE, THAT'S -- IS IT
TONIGHT, SHERRY? >> YES. >> THEN WE WILL HAVE THE LAINGT, I THINK WE COULD DO IT RELATIVELY QUICKLY. WE COULD INVOLVE THE SHERTS DEPARTMENT FOR THEM TO UNDERSTAND THIS IS AN UPCOMING CHANGE TO THE ORDNANCE.
GIVE THEM ENOUGH TIME TO AT LEAST THINK ABOUT IF THE VOLUNTEERS CAN HELP IMMEDIATELY, THAT'S GREAT, BECAUSE THEN WE DON'T HAVE TO SOLVE THAT PROBLEM RIGHT NOW, BUT IT SHOULD BE SOMETHING WE SOLVE ON OUR OWN AS WELL. WHAT -- YOU KNOW, HOW ARE WE GOING TO RETURN AND WHAT'S PROCESS, WHAT IF THE SHELTER CAUSE US AND SAYS WE HAVE 10 OVER 15 READY FOR YOU. WE COME PICK THEM UP, PULL UP ON THE COMPUTER WHERE WE PICKED THEM UP AND TAKE THEM BACK. I DON'T THINK THAT'S GOING TO TAKE VERY LONG TO PLAN BUT I DON'T WANT THE CONFUSION BETWEEN THE ORDERED DEMANDS POLE TO GET SOMEONE IN TROUBLE.
>> COMMISSIONER, I WANT TO ADD ONE TINY DETAIL, I AGREE AND SUPPORT THE IDEA OF THE CONTINUITY OF PROCESS. I WHOLEHEARTED FOLLOW THE PHILOSOPHY BUT IT SEEMS LIKE ALL OF THESE DIFFERENT ORDNANCES AND POLICIES FOR THE PUBLIC SAKES MAN ISICS, ALL OF THESE POINT TO THE SAME END SO ULTIMATELY WE'RE WORKING TOWARDS THE SAME END ANYWAY SO THERE SHOULDN'T BE ANY CONFUSION WE'RE JUST TRYING TO GET THIS GOVERNMENT -- BECAUSE WE ALL KNOW HOW GOVERNMENT MOVES, SLOWER THAN WE'D LIKE. SO WE'RE ALL TRYING TO GET THIS GOVERNMENT MOVE AT A SLIGHTLY FASTER SPACE BECAUSE OF THE DIRE STATES THAT THIS IS IN. ALTHOUGH I UNDERSTAND AND PROTECT YOUR IDEA OF POACIAL CONFUSION, WE'VE WE'RE ALL GOING TO THIS TNR ROAD ANYWAY.
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IF SOMEONE CAME IN ON 290 OR 21, WE'RE ALL ENDING AT TNR. SO IF WE HAVE SOMETHING NOW TO START THAT PROCESS SOONER, I THINK WE ALL WIN. I JUST DO.>> AND ALSO A CLARIFICATION, SHERRY WAS RYE ABOUT THIS AND I THINK JORDAN MENTION IT DID TOO.
WE DON'T HAVE A CHOICE ON THIS. I MEAN, I'VE BEEN SUPPORTIVE THAT WE'VE ALL BEEN WORKING TOWARDS THIS. IT'S BEEN TAKING A LONG TIME. I UNDERSTAND THAT'S FRUSTRATING.
BUT THE CITY OF SAN MARCOS IS GOING TO DICTATE THAT THIS IS THE PRACTICE OF ANYONE THAT OUT LIE THEIR FACILITY FOR ALL OF REASONS , JUDGE, YOU HAVE MENTIONED.
THOSE ARE REASONS ALL OF THIS IS GOING TO HAPPEN. BUT THEY CAN START DOING IT OF COURSE. THEY'RE BLIZZARD DOING. THEY WOULD RATHER DO THAT THAN HEAR WITH THE PROBLEM THEY'RE -- THEY HAVE WITH THING INNING. OUR ORDNANCE ARE DIFFERENT THAN CITIES. THE COUNT AS WE KNOW STATUTES HAVE TO TELL A DHIEWN THEY CAN DO SOMETHING WHERE CITIES CREATE ORDNANCES ABOUT ALL SORTS OF THINGS.
THIS IS ACTUALLY ONE OF THE -- THERE'S LIKE THREE DIFFERENT ORDNANCES A COUNTY CAN ARE TREAT. AND ANIMAL CONTROL AND THIS IS WITHIN OF THEM.
CITY IS UPFRONT WITH ALL KINDS OF THINGS LIKE TREE DE DE-ROOTING.
AND SO THAT'S THE BALANCE THAT JORDAN HAS BEEN JUGGLING. YOU'LL FIND A COUP THAT SAYS WE CAN'T DO THAT. WE THINK WE HAVE FOUND CLEAR DIRECTION HE THAT WE HAVE, BASED ON DR. PRASONO' HELP AND OTHERS AND WE BELIEVE WE FOUND A WAY TO THREAD THAT NEEDLE OUR ORDNANCE.
YES, WE'VE BEEN WAITING. WE DIDN'T WANT TO ADOPT AN ORDINANCE HAVE THE CITY CHANGE SOMETHING. ABOUT THE ORDNANCE IS ARE WHAT ARE WILL DICK SATURDAY TO OUR ANIMAL CONTROL AND OUR CITIZENS OF WHAT THEY CAN OR CAN'T DO. AND AGAIN, I'M REAP WITH APPROVING IT OR SAYING IT WILL CLED IN THE ORDNANCE. I'M JUST SAYING ORDNANCE WILL NOT REALLY THIS CHANGE. AND SOMEONE COULD SAY THAT IT IS EDGE TO DO THIS IN OUR ORDNANCE
WOARNT SAY THAT. >> I JUST -- I HAVEN'T SAID ANYTHING.
MY BIGGEST CONCERN, I ACTUALLY SUPPORT THE CHANGE. I THINK IN COURT RIGHT NOW EVERYBODY SUPPORTS THE CHANGE. IT'S JUST A PROCESS TO GET THERE.
ONE OF THE CONCERNS I HAVE IS -- AND THIS WOULD BE WITH KEEL OR BEATA.
I UNDERSTAND WE'RE IN A VERY SPECIFIC MAN WITHIN THE SAN MARCOS FACILITY.
AT THE END OF THE DAY, THE REPORT THAT CAME OUT THAT WITH WE COMMISSIONED ON OUR OVERALL NEEDS FOR THE COUNTY, IT WAS VERY SPECIFIC TO CAME BIEW A AND SAN MARCOS.
AND NO MATTER THE OUTCOME OF WHAT WE DISCUSSED TODAY, ONE POINT I WANT TO MAKE IS THAT AT THE END OF THE DAY, AND THIS IS THE CONVERSATION I HAD WITH THOSE WHO KNOW THAT REPORT, THERE WAS NOT A CLEAR VIEW FOR THE REST OF THE COUNTY. THEY WERE AN AFTERTHOUGHT AND IN SOME CASES WEREN'T EVEN CONSIDERED. AND WE'RE GOING TO DICTATE A POLICY TODAY BASED UPON THE A.C.T.S OF THE CITY COUNCIL. ED I CAN TELL YOU THERE ARE MULTIPLE CITY COUNCILS AND CITY GOVERNMENTS IN THE COUNTY AND WHENEVER WE DID THAT ASSESSMENT I DIDN'T EVEN GET A PHONE CALL. AND WHENEVER I ASKED, THAT WAS THE ANSWER, WELL, WE DIDN'T TALK
TO ANYBODY FROM THERE, WE DIDN'T TALK TO CITY COUNCIL -- >> DO YOU REMEMBER THE ANSWER
THEY GAVE? I DO. >> MY POINT IS THAT WHENEVER WE LOOK AT THIS -- I DO BELIEVE THAT UNFORTUNATELY BECAUSE OF THE STRANGLE HOLD AND THE OWNERSHIP OF THAT FACILITY, NO MATTER WHAT DECISION WE MAKE TODAY, IT'S GOING TO BE DICTATED BY A LOCAL CITY COUNCIL. IT IS. AND THAT'S FINE.
IF -- AGAIN, THEY OWN A FACILITY, I THINK THAT I'M ACTUALLY SUPPORTIVE OF THE EXCHANGE SO IN THIS SCENARIO IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY BOTHER ME AS MUCH.
BUT AS WE LOOK AT AN OVERALL, YOU KNOW -- THE OVERALL NEEDS IN THE COUNTY AND LOOK AT, YOU KNOW, A POSSIBLE FACILITY IN THE FUTURE, I JUST THINK THAT WE HAVE TO HAVE A MUCH BROADER LOOK AT ALL OF THE CITIZENS DIDN'T ALL OF THE AREAS, OR COUNTY GEOGRAPHICALLY.
BECAUSE AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE DIDN'T AND I'LL BE HONEST I WAS DISAPPOINTED IN THAT.
AND WE HAD THAT CONVERSATION HERE IN COURT, AND I WASN'T NECESSARILY -- I WASN'T ENTHUSED
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WITH THE ANSWER THAT, WELL, THAT'S NOT WHERE WE GET ANIMALS FROM NOT AN ISSUE OR, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT AS BIG A FACTOR IN THESE AREA BECAUSE THE AREAS THAT I'M TALKING ABOUT ARE EXPERIENCING THE HIGHEST GROSS RATE IN THE COUNTY SO WE'RE GOING TO SEE MORE AND MORE ISSUES HERE. I SEE THE PROBLEMS THAT IT COULD ENTAIL PRIOR TO A CHANGE IN THE ORDNANCE I THINK GIVING SOME DIRECTION TO OUR FOLKS PROBABLY ISN'T A BAD THING ON THIS SPECIFIC ISSUE. BUT AGAIN AS WE MOVE FORWARD HAVING MORE OF AN EAR TO THE GROUND IN THE FAR EASTERN PARTS OF THE COUNTY OVER NEAR WALLED AND OVER THERE, IS SPECIFICALLY IN THE DRIPPING DRIFTWOOD, WYNNEWOOD AREA, THAT'D BE HELPFUL.>> JUST BEFORE WE GET TOO FAR, MS. BOYAT WILL YOU REMIND THE VIEWING PUBLIC WHAT RESPONSE WAS
TO WHAT ORGANIZATIONS WERE REACHED OUT TO. >> I HAVE TWO POINTS, ONE IS THAT THESE POLICIES THAT ARE BEING RECOMMENDED ARE BAITH ON NATIONAL ORGANIZATIONS.
NOT NECESSARILY JUST THE STUDIED. THE HUMANE SOCIETY OF UNITED STATES HAS A POSITION STATEMENT THAT TNR IS THE MORE EFFICIENT IN THIS PRACTICE FOR LIVE OUTCOMES FOR COMMUNITY CAT MANAGEMENT. THE ASPCA SAME THING.
THE AMERICAN SOCIETY PROTECTION OF ANIMALS. THE NATIONAL ANIMAL CONTROL ALSO HAS A POSITION STATEMENT THAT IT IS THE -- IN THE BEST INTEREST OF CONSTITUENTS, TIME AND COST SAVINGS. SO THESE ARE -- ALLEY CAT ALLIES, AN INTERNATIONAL ORGANIZATION FOR HUMANE PRACTICES. THE LIST GOES ON AND ON.
THE PHYSICIAN STATEMENTS WERE USED IN DRAFTING THAT POLICY STATEMENT AND THEY ALL SAY THE SAME THING. SO THAT IS NOT ACTUALLY RELATIVE TO WHAT'S IN THAT VISIBILITY STUDY THAT'S GOING TO DIRECT WHICH WAS THE HEART OF WHERE OUR FUTURE FACILITY COMES -- THINK IS THEN GOING TO BE CASHED OUT BY OUR PROGRAM COORDINATOR PHASE THAT'S NOW UNDER THE BYING PROCESS. SO WE HAVE TIME AND SCENARIOS THAT ARE FORTHCOMING THROUGH THIS CORE AS THE DECISIONS MADE WHEN WE HIRE THE NEXT NONPROFIT EXPERT TO BUILD AND DESIGN AND DEVELOP. SO THOSE CONCERNS, THAT THAT WASN'T THE END OF THE FEASIBILITY STUDY AND THE EXPERTS WERE TAKEN TO DRIPPING SPRINGS.
>> THERE WAS A ZOOM MEETING WHICH ALL STAKEHOLDERS WERE INVITED TO AND THAT WAS WIDELY ADVERTISED BUT WE DO HAVE OPPORTUNITY FORCE MORE INPUT ABOUT YOUR CONCERNS, BUT AGAIN, ALL OF THESE THINGS ARE BASED ON VETERINARIAN RECOMMENDATIONS ACROSS WORLD, NOT JUST HE ME.
>> I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY QUESTION AS FAR AS THE ORGANIZATION THAT YOU MENTIONED.
WE'RE ADOPTING AT A POINT WHERE THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS HAVE BEEN OUT THERE FOR YEARS I THINK ONE OF THE REASONS WE'RE PUSHING TO LOOK AT THIS TODAY AGAIN BECAUSE IT'S AN ISSUE WITHIN OUR SHELTER THAT'S CONTROLLED BY SAN MARCOS AND EVEN TODAY WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE FACT THAT WE MAY HAVE TO WAIT ON SAN MARCOS TO MAKE A CHANGE IN THE ORDNANCE BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE CHANGES
THAT ARE SEPARATE AND APART FROM THAT. >> LET ME SEE WHAT COMMISSIONER
SHELL WANTS AND COMMISSIONER KENNEDY. >> JUST A COUPLE OF THINGS...
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ADDRESSES THESE KINDS OF THINGS AND WE ALTERNATE OUR POLICY HOW WE GO ABOUT CUTTING OURSELVES IN RELATION TO HOW ANIMAL CONTROL WILL ASSIST IN HANDLING THE CATS PROGRAM AND IF ANIMAL CONTROL WILL DO THAT OR CAN'T DO THAT. I THINK WE'LL HAVE A ORDNANCE. HE'LL MAKE SURE I WORK TO COME UP WITH THE RIGHT COMBINATION. IS THERE ANYTHING YOU COULD RECOMMEND AS OUR GENERAL COUNCIL THAT WE COULD DO TODAY THAT WOULD HELP OPEN THESE LITTLE CAGES AND LET THESE HONESTLY DYING CATS RETURN TO THEIR HOMES SED I THINK THE VERBIAGE IS ABOUT THE SAME, YOU COULD SHOULD HONE IN ON THIS HAYS COUNTY CAT BE COMMUNITY POLICY STATEMENT AND DETERMINE WHAT YOU LIKE TO LEAVE THIS AND LEAVE OUT. SO THERE'S A LOT MORE INCLUDED IN THAT I BELIEVE THAN WHAT WE DISCUSSED. FOR INSTANCE, AS A MATTER OF POLICY THE SAN MARCOS SHELTER WILL MICROCHIP IN A STRAY I BELIEVE. BUT I DON'T KNOW IF WE'RE INCLUDING THAT IN OUR POLICY STATEMENT, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE ARRANGEMENT WILL BE WITHIN THE CITY OF SAN MARCOS AND WHAT ARE THE COSTS AND DETAILS THAT WE KNOW SORT OF DRILL DOWN TO.[01:35:05]
I THINK YOU COULD ADOPT A POLICY STATEMENT THAT MAY NOT CONFLICT WITH THE ORDNANCE AT ALL BUT GETTING THOSE KINDS OF DETAILS MAPPED OUT WOULD BE IMPORTANT I BELIEVELE ANY LAST IDEAS ORCOMMENTSES? >>> THERE ARE TWO PEOPLE IN HERE THAT ARE CONSIDERED HAYS COUNTY ANIMAL ADVOCATES THAT WOULD BE, I'M SURE, WILLING TO THINK ABOUT, WE ALL WORK AND HAVE BEEN WORKING TOGETHER FOR YEARS, AND AGAIN I WANT TO POINT OUT THIS IS ALL PART OF THE NO KILL RESOLUTION THAT THE CITY OF SAN MARCOS, WOMEN BERLY, THE COMMISSIONER COURT, WE'VE ALL AGREED TO DO THESE THINGS SO I HOPE WE CAN MOVE FORWARD AND LET THE CATS GO HOME.
THANK YOU YET AGAIN, IS THERE ANYTHING THAT WE CAN OFFER, SOMETHING YOU OR ENCOURAGE FOR THE COUNTY COT OR COUNTY CAPTURE OR WHATEVER THE RIGHT WORD MAY BE.
THAT ARE OUR CITY FACILITY WANTS TO RETURN BUT CAN'T BECAUSE THEY WERE COUNTY COLLECTED, COUNTY STAFF COLLECTED? IS THERE ANYTHING WE COULD SUGGEST AS A LAST DITCH EFFORT FOR THIS MOMENT TODAY TO DO TO ALLOW FOLKS TO RETURN THEM AS VOLUNTEERS? ANYTHING WE CAN DO? THE COURT CAN ALWAYS TAKE MOTION TO TAKE ACTION ON ANYTHING AND WE'LL PLAY CATCH-UP BUT I FEEL LIKE RIGHT NOW WHAT SHOULD HAPPEN, IF WE WANTED TO DO IT, I DON'T KNOW, AT A PACE THAT'S MANAGEABLE, WE SHOULD SEE HOW THE SECOND READING GOES AT THE CITY TONIGHT, WHAT THAT ENTAILS, WORK ON AND POLICY THAT WE CAN, NO PUN INTENDED, VET OVER THE NEXT WEEK AND HAVE THAT BROUGHT BACK TO COURT NEXT WEEK FOR CONSIDERATION.
>> OKAY, MR. KENNEDY -- >> THERE'S ONLY ONE WEEK BEFORE NOW AND THE NEXT COURT.
>> THAT SOUNDS A LOT MORE PALPABLE, NO OFFENSE MS. POWELL, BUT MONTHS -- BECAUSE OF THE SEPARATION I SEE IN THOSE PETS AND ANIMALS, MONTHS SOUNDS IN SOME INSTANCES LIKE A DEATH
SENTENCE AND NEXT WEEK I CAN HOLD MY BREATH FOR. >> IS THE CITY ALREADY RELEASING
THEM YET OR NOT IN THE. >> THEY WON'T. >> THE CATS THAT ARE IN THE CITY LIMITS OF SAN MARCOS, THEY ARE RETURNED, YES, AND HAVE BEEN MORE YEARS.
>> BUT COUNTY -- >> AND THAT, AGAIN, I WILL REPEAT THE STAFF BURDEN WHEN YOU CONSIDER HOW MANY ANIMALS ARE BEING HELD RIGHT NOW, CAPACITY AT 160% WITH DOGS INCLUDED.
WE HAVE TO CONSIDER THE WELL-BEING OF THE HUMAN FACTOR HERE THIS WOULD BE A HUGE RELIEF TO THE STAFF WE'VE HAD VOLUNTEERS DOING THIS IN PARTS OF THE COUNTY AS WELL OUTSIDE OF THE CITY. THERE ARE FOLKSES THAT DO IT, THEY DO IT ON THEIR OWN, THEY DON'T TAKE TO THE SHELTER BUT GET THE CAT NEUTERED OR FIXED AND CLIP ITS EARS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. THAT'S BEEN ONGOING. IT'S ALWAYS BEEN A GRAY AREA.
>> EXACTLY RIGHT. >> TECHNICALLY TO DROP THE ANIMAL OFF AND A VIOLATION OF
OUR ORDNANCE. RETURN TO ITS HOME. >> AS A HOPEFUL ETERNAL OPTIMIST AND I WILL SAY IT THIS WAY, WE WILL LEAVE THIS AGENDA AT THE KNOWING THAT I WILL BRING IT BACK NEXT WEEK BECAUSE I HAVE THE UTMOST BELIEF THAT THIS COURT WILL BE READY TO ACT ON WHAT MR. KENNEDY PROVIDES US NEXT WEEK. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR HELP, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR LOVING THESE ANIMALS AND THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR SPEAKING UP FOR THEM.
>> THANK YOU. >> AND JUDGE, I KNOW THERE'S FOLKS WAITING TO GO TO 11, BUT CAN WE GO AHEAD AND KNOCK OUT 10 SINCE IT RELATES TO TNR AND THE GRANT.
[K10. Discussion and possible action to provide matching funds to the PAWS on the Ground Hays non-profit organization related to a trap/neuter/return (TNR) program for unowned community cats within the San Marcos area and amend the budget accordingly. INGALSBE]
>> SURE, SURE. ABSOLUTELY. YOU CAN PLEASE HOPE K10.
>> DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION TO PROVIDE MATCHING FUNDS TO THE PAWS ON THE GROUND CASE NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION RELATED TO A TRAP AND NEUTER RETURN PROGRAM FOR UNFOUND COMMUNITY CATS WITHIN THE SAN MARCOS AREA AND AMEND THE BUDGET ACCORDINGLY.
>> SO MOVE. >> SECOND. >> THANK YOU COMMISSIONER.
>> AND JUDGE, CAT TIP PAYS IS A NEW PROGRAM THAT SUPPORTS THE COMMUNITY CATS OF PACE COUNTY.
THEY HAVE RECEIVED A $5,000 GRANT THAT REQUIRES A MATCH. I'VE TALKED TO OUR BUDGET OFFICER THERE IS MONEY TO MATCH THE FUND AND IT WILL BE MATCHED AGAIN IF THAT IS MATCHED SO WE
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HAVE A POTENTIAL TO HAVE LOTS OF FUNDS GOING TOWARDS THIS PROGRAM AND SO I WOULD HOPE THAT OURCOURT SUPPORTS THAT. >> BEAUTIFUL, BEAUTIFUL. >> COMMISSIONERS, ALL GOOD?
>> I HOPE WE CAN FIND WAYS TO CONTINUE TO SUPPORT THE PROGRAM. IT'S APPRECIATIVE OF ALL OF THE WORK THAT EVERYBODY IS DOING ON THIS. THANKS FOR BRINGING THIS,
COMMISSIONER. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH. >> COMMISSIONERS JONES...
YES. >> COMMISSIONER SHELL. >> YES.
>> COMMISSIONER SMITH. >> YES. >> COMMISSIONER INGLESBY.
[K11. Discussion and possible action to canvass the November 8, 2022 General Election results. BECERRA/ANDERSON]
>> YES. >> JUDGE BECCEDA. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH, KEEP MOVING. K11, DISPUTION POSSIBLE ACT TO CANVAS NOVEMBER 8TH, 2022
GENERAL ELECTION RESULTS. GOOD MORNING, EVERYONE. >> I HEARD THE COMMENT EARLIER SO I DO WANT TO GO AHEAD AND POINT OUT THAT TEXAS ELECTION CODE IS THE SECTION THAT GOVERNS THIS CANVAS. IT GIVES LITTLE DISCRETION FROM THE COURT OVER CANVASSING RETURNS AND USES THE WORD SHALL SEVERAL TIMES AND IT IS AD SISTERRIAL DUTY OF THE COURT TO CANVAS THE RETURNS. IT IS AN OBLIGATION OF MINE TO LET YOU KNOW THAT THERE IS AN INQUIRY OF A RECOUNT SO EVEN THOUGH WE CANVAS THE RETURNS TODAY, THERE COULD BE A RECOUNT.
DOESN'T CHANGE THAT WE CANVAS THE RETURNS. IN FACT, THAT HAS TO BE HAPPEN
BEFORE A RECOUNT CAN BE FILED. >> COMMISSIONERS, COMMENT ON THAT FRONT?
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH. IT WAS 2018, NOT 2020. >> COMMISSIONERS, ANY COMMENTS?
>> I DO WANT TO ADDRESS THAT I THINK THAT THERE WAS A QUESTION AS TO CERTIFYING THE ELECTION RETURNS AND THAT DUTY IS -- IT FALLS UNDER THE AUTHORITY THAT THE PRESIDING JUDGE OF CENTRAL COUNT. THEY DO PRECINCT RETURNS AND CERTIFY THE RETURNS ON ELECTION NIGHT AND AGAIN AFTER THE OFFICIAL COUNT. ANDTHAT WAS DONE THIS YEAR BY
THE PRESIDING JUDGE AND HE DID SIGN OFF ON THOSE RETURNS. >> I GAVE A VOLUNTEER AUTHORITY AS A CANDIDATE ON THE BALLOT, SAM BRANNON PERCEPTION TO BE IN THERE AS WELL AND A WITNESS TO IT. AND HIS RESPONSE TO ME WAS HONESTLY IT IS WHAT IT IS.
I HAVE THE LUCKY COUNTRY AND LUCKY ABILITY TO SEE EVERYONE'S ADVANTAGE POINTS.
AND I'M LIKE, YEAH, I'VE LIVED HERE, RAISED MY FAMILY HERE, THIS IS MY HOMETOWN, I'VE SEEN ALL OF THE VARIATIONS AND EVERYTHINGS GO ON -- GOING ON AND SO I'M LIKE, OOH, YEAH, I CAN SEE THAT. BUT I DO FEEL GRATEFUL THAT SAM REPORTED BACK TO ME -- THAT HE FELT IT WAS RUNNING CLEANLY, EFFICIENTLY AND TIDY. I AM PARAPHRASING BUT THAT WAS THE GIST OF HIS MESSAGE AND HONESTLY WE'RE ALL NERVOUS FOR A MYRIAD OF REASONS, WE'RE ALL NERVES FOR WHATEVER. SO WHEN SOMEONE THAT IS CLEARLY -- AND YOU CAN CONFIRM -- NOT YOUR BUDDY, IS -- AS THEY'RE WATCHING AND REPORTS THAT BACK TO ME, I FEEL GOOD.
WE HAD FIVE ON THAT NIGHT AND NOBODY POINTED OUTED INFRACTIONS OF THE LAW OR ANYTHING THEY WERE
WORRIED ABOUT IN THE PROCESS. >> RIGHT. AND I THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT AS THE BODY THAT ADMINISTERS ELECTIONS, I THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT WE DO OUR VERY LEVEL BEST TO RESTORE CONFIDENCE IN EVERYTHING WE DO FROM DEPARTMENT HEADS TO ELECTED OFFICIALS AND IN EVERY CAPACITY, EVERY ANGLE, AND I SAID THAT FOUR YEARS AGO AND REMEMBER SAYING IT TO TAMMY ACTUALL IN MY OFFICE. I SAID, TAM EERK I'M GOING TO CALL TO YOU SPEAK AT THE PODIUM AND PLEASE NEVER TAKE IT AS CALLING YOU OUT THE COMMUNITY
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NEEDS TO HEAR WHAT WE'RE DOING AND UNDERSTAND WHAT'S GOING ON. BECAUSE IF YOU DON'T TELL THEM WHAT YOU'RE DOING, THEY'RE GONNA THINK WE'RE DOING NOTHING. SO WE HAVE TO TELL THEM OUR STORY. I KNOW IT'S BEEN A LOT AT A LOCAL, REGIONAL, STATEWIDE AND NATIONAL LEVEL, AND EVEN GLOBAL ABOUT ALL OF THESE ANGER AND HATRED AND BITTERED EFFORTS THAT HAVE BEEN GOING ON, AND MY HOPE IS THAT WE AS A OPPORTUNITY WILL TRY INSULATE OURSELVES.>> WHATEVER PARTY WE ASSOCIATE WITH AND NO PARTY AND DO OUR BEST TO SEE OURSELVES AS
NEIGHBORS AND EVERYONE. >> I BELIEVE IT WILL SERVICE ALL MORE AND GIVES FOR PEACE IN OUR
HEARTS AND IN OUR MINDS. >> COMMISSIONER... >> THE CANVAS IS ON THE WEB
SITE, I THINK THAT QUESTION WAS ASKED. >> YES.
SO THE RESULTS IS ON THEIR WEB SITE FOR ANYONE TO SEE. YOU CAN EXPLAIN -- THIS QUESTION COMES UP -- OVERVOTES HAS COME UP BEFORE, YOU CAN EXPLAIN AN OVERVOTE AND ALSO AN UNDERVOTE
AS WELL? >> YOU CAN EXPLAIN THOSE TWO? >> AFTER OVERVOTE IS WHEN MORE THAN ONE CANDIDATE IS SELECTED FOR A RACE THAT ONLY ALLOWS ONE CANDIDATE CHOICE, AND THEN IN THAT CASE THERE WOULD BE NO VOTE TOWARDS THE CANDIDATE. AN UNDERVOTE IS THE OPPOSITE, THIS DIDN'T SO AT ALL FOR EITHER RACE. AND THE REASON THERE'S A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF OVERVOTES IN THIS ELECTION, WHICH IS WHAT WE REFER TO AS A GENERAL ELECTION FOR STATE AND COUNTY OFFICERS, IS BECAUSE WE DO THE LIMITED THE BALANCES AND SO THERE'S A LOT OF RACES THAT ARE OVERVOTED IF THE PERSON COMING IN TO VOTE IS NOT QUALIFIED OR
ELIGIBLE TO VOTE ON THAT RACE. >> AND TO ADD A LITTLE MORE DETAIL FOR THAT, I HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING AND UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE DESCRIBING, BUT THERE ARE A KALEIDOSCOPE OF PERSPECTIVES, AND SO TO BE EXPAND A LITTLE FURTHER, LET'S SAY SOMEONE FROM TRAVIS COUNTY IS HERE AT TEXAS STATE AND THEY WANT TO VOTE WELL, THEY CAN VOTE BUT ONLY FOR STATE CANDIDATES,
AM I RIGHT? >> AND ONLY EARLY VOTING. >> AND THAT'S ANOTHER QUESTION THAT COMES UP, WELL, I'M A REGISTERED VOTER IN TEXAS. AGAIN, WE AS A PEOPLE PERSPECTIVES, AND SO TO EXPAND A DON'T KNOW THE DETAILS SO THE MORE WE TALK ABOUT IT AND SHARE IT, THE MORE PEACE WE WILL HAVE. SOME PEOPLE REPORT THAT THEY CAME TO VOTE AND COULDN'T VOTE BUT THEY DON'T LIVE IN HAYS COUNTY. BUT THEY WANTED TO VOTE FOR THE GOVERNOR'S RACE. AND I SAID, WELL, AND I DON'T KNOW WHY THIS IS DONE BUT ON ELECTION DAY, YOU CANNOT VOTE FOR THE GOVERNOR, WHICH IS A STATEWIDE RACE IN HAYS COUNTY, IF YOU DON'T LIVE IN HAYS COUNTY, IF YOU'RE NOT REGISTERED IN HAYS COUNTY, BUT DURING EARLY VOTING YOU CAN. I DON'T KNOW WHY THAT'S THE CASE.
BUT THAT'S THE CASE. >> IT'S PRIMARILY BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO REMOVE THAT PERSON FROM THE VOTER ROLLS WHERE THEY ARE. IF THAT WAS HAPPENING ON ELECTION DAY --
>> TOO MUCH WORK. >> IT WOULD BE DIFFICULT, IT WOULD BE DIFFICULT TO GET THE
OTHER COUNTY TO REMOVE THEM. >> YEAH. AND SO THERE'S SOME LITTLE IDIO SINKRACIES THAT WE JUST NEED TO COMMUNICATE, CONTINUE TO EXPLAIN AND EXPLAIN IT FIVE DIFFERENT WAYS SO THE DIFFERENT WAYS THAT PEOPLE HAVE WITH THEIR LIFE EXPERIENCES AND THEIR -- VERY OFTEN IN THEIR OWN HEADS, AS WELL -- THAT PEOPLE WILL GET, IT ONE OF THESE DIFFERENT WAYS THAT WE COMMUNITY THE INFORMATION WHN SOMEONE VOTES AS A REGULAR COUNTY, NOT IN HAYS COUNTY, IS THERE LITTLED BALLOT-ONLY CERTAIN WAYS RACES OR ARE THEY GIVEN THE WHOLE BALLOT AND THE ONLY ONES THEY COUNT ARE THE ONES THAT THEY VOTE FOR STATE SPHWHIED.
>> SO WE -- I FEEL LIKE AT THE ENDED OF YOUR CANVAS, WE PREMAKE BALANCES IF OUR SURROUNDING COUNTIES BECAUSE TYPICALLY THAT'S WHAT OUR LIMITED BALLOTS ARE BUT WE DO GET THEM FROM COUNTIES ALL OVER THE STATE. SO IN THOSE CASES ONLY, WE MODIFY A BALLOT FOR THEM SPECIFIC TO WHAT IS ON THEIR BALLOT WHERE THEY'RE REGISTERED. BUT IF IT'S COMEL COUNTY, TRAVIS COUNTY, YOU CAME WALK COUNTY OR SOMETHING DIRECTLY NEXT TO US, WE HAVE THE BAGS PREPARED FOR
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THEM. >> COMMISSIONER SHELL. >> COMMISSIONER SMITH.
>> YES. >> COMMISSIONER INGLESBY. >> YES.
>> COMMISSIONER JONES? >> YES. >> JUDGE BEERRA.
>> YES. >> ALL RIGHT, AND THANK YOU FOR ALL YOU'RE DOING.
COMMISSIONERS BASED ON YOUR AGENDA ITEMS AND THE PEOPLE IN ARE HERE AT THIS TIME, IS THERE
[CONSENT ITEMS]
ANYTHING YOU WOULD LIKE FOR ME TO OPEN SPECIFICALLY AND DIRECTLY? OTHERWISE, I'M GOING TO MOVE THROUGH CONSENT. WE'RE GOOD, OKAY.PLEASE OPEN CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS G1, APPROVE PAYMENTS OF COUNTY INVOICES.
G2 APPROVE THE PAYMENT MUCH JUROR CHECKS. G3, APPROVE THE PAYMENT OF UNITED HEALTHCARE CLAIMS, G4, APPROVE COMMISSIONERS COURT MINUTES OF NOVEMBER 1ST, 2022.
GIVE F, APPROVE PAYMENT OF THE $100 APPLICATION FEE TO THE TEXAS HISTORICAL COMMISSION FOR THE REPLACEMENT HISTORICAL MARKER AT BUNTON RANCH BRIDGE IN KYLE, TEXAS.
G6, AMEND THE CONSTABLE PRECINCT 3 OPERATING BUDGET FOR ADDITIONAL VEHICLE MAINTENANCE AND REPAIR NEEDS FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT FLEET. G8, AUTHORIZE BUILDING MAIN MAINTENANCE TO PURCHASE A 5 GALLON GRACO AIRLESS LINE STRIPER IN THE AMOUNT OF $4,385 AND AMEND THE BUDGET ACCORDINGLY. G9, APPROVE THE APPOINTMENT OF ROBERT NEVADA TO THE BOARD OF EMERGENCY SERVICES DISTRICT NUMBER 6, A TWO-YEAR TERM ENDING DECEMBER 31ST, 2024. G10, AUTHORIZE BUILDING MAINTENANCE TO REPLACE THE TENT TON HVAC ROOFTOP UNIT 5 AT THE HATES COUNTY COURTHOUSE IN THE AMOUNT OF $24,812.95 AND AMEND THE BUDGET ACCORDINGLY. G11, AUTHORIZE THE COUNTY JUDGE TO EXECUTE A RENEWAL OF THE INTERWILL COOPERATION AGREEMENT BETWEEN HAYS COUNTY AND BLANK OH COUNTY FOR JAIL SERVICES
EFFECTIVE NOVEMBER 12022, BLANCO COUNTY. >> G12, AUTHORIZE THE COUNTY JUDGE TO EXECUTE A SERVICE SUPPORT PLAN WITH CONFERENCE TECHNOLOGIES, INC. IF THE AUDIO-VISUAL SYSTEM LOCATED AT THE JUST A MINUTE AND TRAINING CENTER.
G13, AUTHORIZE THE ACCEPTANCE OF A GRANT AWARD FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE BUREAU OF JUSTICE ASSISTANCE STATE CRIMINAL ALIEN ASSISTANCE PROGRAM IN THE AMOUNT OF $118,252. G14, AUTHORIZING THE ACCEPTANCE OF A GRANT AWARD FROM THE OFFICE OF THE GOVERNOR CRIMINAL JUSTICE DIVISION, JUSTICE ASSISTANCE GRANT PROGRAM, FOR THE CONTINUATION OF THE HAYS COUNTY MENTAL HEALTH CRISIS INTERVENTION PROGRAM IN THE AMOUNT OF $58,405.90. G15, AUTHORIZE BUILDING MAINTENANCE TO POUR A NEW CONCRETE DUMPSTER PAD AT WOMEN BERLY RECYCLING AND SOLID WASTE FACILITY IN THE AMOUNT OF DLEFL 2500 GRANT AN APPLICATION TO STATE FARM GOOD NEIGHBOR CITIZENS GRANT.
17, AUTHORIZE THE ACCEPTANCE OF GRANT AWARD FROM THE OFFICE OF THE GOVERNOR FY23 VICTIM ASSISTANCE FIRST RESPONDER MENTAL HEALTH PROGRAM IN THE AMOUNT OF $10,081.25 AND AMEND THE BUDGET ACCORDINGLY. G18, AUTHORIZE A COUNTY JUDGE TO EXECUTE A FIRST AMENDMENT FOR A TIME EXTENSION TO A PROFESSIONAL SERVICES AGREEMENT BETWEEN HAYSD NEWMAN, INC. RELATED TO THE RIGHT OF WAY SERVICES SAFETY EXPANSION PROJECT. G19, APPROVE SPECIFICATIONS FOR RFP2023-P03, COUNTYWIDE PLUMBING SERVICES AND AUTHORIZE PURCHASING TO SOLICIT FOR PROPOSALS AND ADVERTISE. G20, AUTHORIZE THE COUNTY JUDGE TO EXECUTE AMENDMENT NUMBER 1 FOR A TIME EXTENSION TO TASK ORDER NUMBER 3 AS PART OF THE MASTER INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT BETWEEN HAYS COUNTY AND TEXAS STATE UNIVERSITY EXECUTED ON OR ABOUT AUGUST 18TH, 2020.
G21 AUTHORIZE THE EXECUTION OF THE FY2023 GRANT AGREEMENT FOR THE U.S. DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE DRUG ENFORCEMENT ADMINISTRATION FOR OVERTIME REIMBURSEMENTS RELATED TO THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE ORGANIZED CRIME DRUG ENFORCEMENT TASK FORCE AND AMEND THE BUDGET ACCORDINGLY.
G22, AUTHORIZE THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE TO ACCEPT A $100 DONATION FROM WESLEY B ALEXANDER AND
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AMEND THE BUDGET ACCORDINGLY. G23, AUTHORIZE A WAIVER TO THE PURCHASING POLICY AND PREPAYMENT TO VENDOR FOR THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE TO USE ETHOS SURVIVAL, INC. TO PURCHASE HOLSTERS.G24 AUTHORIZE A COUNTY JUDGE TO EXECUTE RENEWAL AGREEMENT FOR THE LEXIS DIGITAL LAW LIBRARY AND AUTHORIZE A DISCRETIONARY EXEMPTION PURSUIT TO TEXAS LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE 264.024A7B.
G25, AUTHORIZE A PURCHASING WAIVER FOR THE JUSTICE OF THE PEACE PRECINCT 3 OFFICE TO ADD SECURITY CAMERAS AND EQUIPMENT TO THE PRECINCT 3 BUILDING UTILIZING THE JUSTICE COURT BUILDING SECURITY FUND AND AMEND THE BUDGET ACCORDINGLY. EXCUSE ME.
G26, AUTHORIZE THE EXECUTION OF A BUSINESS ASSOCIATE AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE HAYS COUNTY LOCAL HEALTH DEPARTMENT AND OF JOTFORM RELATED TO THIS SUBSCRIPTION AGREEMENT HAS BEEN APPROVED AND EXECUTED ON OCTOBER 25TH, 2022. G27, APPROVE UTILITY PREMISES.
>> SALUDE. >> SECOND. >> PERFECT.
I WANT TO ASK A QUICK QUESTION, MR. CRE EMBLY ON 14, WOULD YOU EXPAND A LITTLE BIT ON THE HAYS COUNTY HEALTH CRISIS INTERVENTION PROGRAM? IT'S NOR THE VIEWING PUBLIC'S
SAKE AND JUST SO YOU KNOW I'M GOING TO ASK BUT 17. >> TRYING TO BE FIND MY NOTES.
>> I BELIEVE WE CURRENTLY RECEIVED THIS MONEY FOR OUR SHERIFF'S OFFICE FOR ONE OF THOSE POSITIONS WITHIN THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE. I BELIEVE THAT THIS IS A RENEWAL
OF THAT GRANT. >> THAT'S CORRECT. WE HAVE --
>> 17. >> YES. AND THEY WORK WITH I BELIEVE THE SHIPE'S CENTER ON THIS POSITION. IS THAT CORRECT MICKEY? THEY HAVE AN OFFICER THAT GOES
OUT ON THOSE CALLS FOR MENTAL HEALTH. >> BEAUTIFUL.
>> COMMISSIONERS, ANYTHING ELSE? PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. >> COMMISSIONER SMITH.
>> YES. >> COMMISSIONER INGLESBY. >> YES.
>> COMMISSIONER JONES. >> YES. >> COMMISSIONER SHELL.
>> YES. >> JUDGE B EECERRA. >> WHAT WAS THE OTHER NUMBER ,
[I1. Discussion and possible action to authorize the County Judge to execute a Professional Services Agreement between Hays County and Cobb, Fendley & Associates, Inc. to provide utility coordination services for the RM 12 safety improvements near the intersection of Skyline Drive and Mountain Crest Drive in Precinct 3. SHELL/BORCHERDING]
JUDGE? >> IT WAS 17. BUT I GOT IT.
WOULD YOU PLEASE OPEN 51. >> 51. DISUFTION POSSIBLE ACTION TO AUTHORIZE THE COUNTY JUDGE TO EXECUTE A PROFESSIONAL SERVICES AGREEMENT BETWEEN HAYS COUNTY AND COB FENDLY AND ASSOCIATED, INC. TO PROVIDE UTILITY COORDINATION SERVICES FOR THE RM-12 SAFETY IMPROVEMENTS NEAR THE INTERSECTION OF SKYLINE DRIVE AND MOUNTAIN CREST DRIVE
IN PRECINCT 3. >> SO MOVED, SECOND. >> THIS PROJECT IS AT THE INTERSECTION OF RANCHO ROAD AND SKYLINE DRIVE ON MOUNTAIN CREST. WE DID SOME PRELIMINARY ENGINEERING AND IN DESIGN CURRENTLY AND RECEIVING STATE FUNDS FOR CONSTRUCTION.
>> BEAUTIFUL, AND THANK YOU. PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. >> COMMISSIONERRINGSLESS BEE.
>> YES, COMMISSIONER SMITH. >> YES. >> COMMISSIONER JONES.
[I2. Discussion and possible action to authorize the execution of Change Order No.15 in the amount of $175,962.26 to the Construction Contract with Cox Commercial Construction for the RM 3237 at RM 150 Roundabout (IFB2021-B06) project as part of the Hays County Road Bond Program in Precinct 3 and amend the budget accordingly. SHELL/BORCHERDING]
>> YES. >> COMMISSIONER SHELL. >> YES , JUDGE.
>> YES. >> I2, DISCUSS THE POSSIBLE ACTOR ACTION TO AUTHORIZE THE EXECUTION OF CHANGE ORDER NUMBER 15 IN THE AMOUNT, $175,962.26 TO THE CONSTRUCTION CONTRACT WITH COX COMMERCIAL CONSTRUCTION FOR THE RM3237 AT RM150 ROUND-ABOUT PROJECT AS PART OF THE HAYS COUNTY ROAD BOND PROGRAM AT PRECINCT 3 AND AMEND THE BUDGET ACCORDINGLY.
>> SO MOVED. >> SECOND. >> AND WE HAVE MR. DAN LYON
SIGNED UP TO SPEAK. >> THANK YOU , JUDGE. IN SUMMARY IT SAYS CHANGE ORDER NUMBER 15, PROVIDES A FINAL BALANCING FOR THE OVERRUN SLASH UNDERRUNNINGS OF CONTRACT QUANTITIES ON THE PROJECT THAT ARE A RESULT OF ADDRESSING FIELD CONDITIONS NOT ACCOUNTED FOR IN
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THE ORIGINAL PLANS. THIS CHANGE ORDER ALSO ADDRESSES A REQUEST FROM THE CONTRACTOR FOR ADDITIONAL COMPENSATION INCLUDING ADDITIONAL MONTHS, BARRICADES AND MESSAGE BOARDS.THIS CHANGE ORDER RESULTS IN A NET INCREASE OF $175,962.26 TO THE CONTRACT AMOUNT FOR AN ADJUSTED TOTAL CONTRACT AMOUNT OF $2,034,395.44. THE ORIGINAL CONTRACT AMOUNT WAS $1,654,710.80. NO ADDITIONAL DAYS WILL BE ADDED OR DEDUCTED AT THIS TIME AS A RESULT OF THIS CHANGE ORDER. THIS CHANGE ORDER NUMBER 15. SO I GUESS WE'VE HAD 14 CHANGE ORDERS BEFORE THAT. AND IT SEEMS REAL FAMILIAR TO ME, AND I THINK THE LAST TIME I WAS UP HERE AND WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THIS, PERHAPS I'M WRONG, BUT I BELIEVE COMMISSIONER SHELL GAVE ME A ROUND-ABOUT ANSWER ON IT. I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND A WHOLE LOT OF WHAT HE WAS SAYING. HOPEFULLY SOME PEOPLE IN THE AUDIENCE DO.
ANYWAY, THIS IS $2 MILLION IS ABOUT 20% HIGHER THAN THE $1.6 MILLION THAT WE STARTED WITH AND ON THIS QUESTION OF GETTING ADDITIONAL FOR MONTHS OF BARRICADES AND MESSAGE BOARDS, I WANT TO KNOW, WAS THAT THE COUNTY'S FAULT THAT THE TIME WAS EXTENDED FOR THEM TO COMPLETE THIS OR WAS THAT THE CONTRACTOR'S FAULT. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
>> ALL OF THE QUESTIONS, MR. LANE, THANK YOU VERY MUCH, COMMISSIONER SHELL.
>> IN BACK-UP, IT'S A -- WE DID PROVIDE A VERY SPECIFIC LIST OF EVERY THING THAT WAS OVER OR UNDER. SO YOU'LL SEE THAT LIST. THAT'S PROBABLY A FEW HUNDRED ITEMS IN TOTAL DEBT THAT WERE CONSIDERED. THE -- ONE OF THE MAIN REASONS WAS THE PHASING, WHEN THE PROJECT WAS BID, IT WAS BID TO BE CONSTRUCTED IN TWO PHASES.
ONCE THE CONSTRUCTION STARTED WE DECIDED TO GO WHAT WE CALL THIRD PHASE WHICH WAS MAINLY TO PROVIDE FOR BETTER TRAFFIC CONTROL AND SAFETY AROUND THE PROJECT.
SO WHEN YOU'RE DEALING WITH AN INTERSECTION OF TWO STATE ROADS, WE ALL UNDERSTAND THE TRAFFIC THAT'S OUT THERE, THE CALL WAS MADE. WE PROBABLY CAN'T DO THESE TWO PIECES AT ONE TIME SAFELY FOR TRAFFIC, WHICH WE DID END UP HAVING A VERY SAFE CONSTRUCTION PROJECT. THERE WAS ONE FENDER BENDER IN THAT INTERSECTION BEFORE.
BT THAT WAS ONE REASON. WHAT HAPPENS IS THE CONTRACTOR SAYS, OKAY, WELL, IF WE DO THIS, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO -- THIS IS GONNA TAKE LONGER OR WE'RE GOING TO HAVE SIGNAGE OUT LONGER OR CHANGE TO THIS TYPE. SO THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS. BUT YOU'LL SEE ALL OF THE DIFFERENT PLUS AND MINUSES ON THE DETAILED LIST THAT THEY PROVIDED.
SO LET'S SAY AS A RESULT OF A CHANGE FROM WHAT THE DESIGN WAS, THERE WAS LESS PAVEMENT BY SO MANY SQUARE YARDS AND MATERIAL, YOU'LL SEE A DEDUCT FOR THAT. MAYBE WE CHANGED SOMETHING THAT REQUIRED AN INCREASE. THERE WERE SOME ADDITIONAL TREE TRIMMING THAT WAS REQUIRED TO COME THE DATE THE DESIGN, THINGS LIKE THAT. YOU'LL SEE A PLUS FOR WHAT WE DID TO TRIM TREES. I MEAN, ALL IN ALL, YEAH, I WISH THIS WAS FREE.
I I WISH THAT PEOPLE JUST BUILT NEW ROADS FOR NOTHING. THAT'D BE GREAT.
I MEAN, I'M NOT GONNA EVEN HAVE A JOB ANYMORE IF THAT WAS THE CASE.
BUT THAT'S NOT. THE COUNTY TOOK ON THE PROJECT. I THINK IT'S A VERY SUCCESSFUL PROJECT. I THINK IT WAS DONE IN A VERY SAFE WAY.
IT WAS DONE PRETTY QUICKLY OVERALL FOR THAT TYPE OF A CONSTRUCTION PROJECT.
YES, THERE WERE THINGS WE RUN INTO DURING CONSTRUCTION THAT WE DO HAVE TO ADDRESS, AND WE ADDRESS THOSE SO THAT WE HAVE THE BEST PROJECT POSSIBLE. BUT I'M VERY SATISFIED WITH WHAT THE OUTCOME -- WITH THE OUTCOME OF THE PROJECT. I THINK IT'S WORKING WELL AND SAFE DURING CONSTRUCTION WHICH WAS A MAJOR ISSUE WITH THIS. AND BY DOING THIS, WE ARE EVEN WITH THE CONTRACTOR AND HIS CONTRACTORS OR HER CONTRACTORS, SO WE KNOW NOW THAT THEY'RE NOT GOING TO COME BACK TO THE COUNTY AND SAY WE WERE OUT THERE FOR X NUMBER OF DAYS LONGER BECAUSE OF CHANGES YOU MADE AND THAT PUTS US INTO SOME TYPE OF AN ARGUMENT.
THIS IS WHAT OUR TEAM BELIEVES WAS FAIR, WHAT WAS DONE AND WHAT WASN'T DONE, WHICH RESULTS IN
THE DECREASE . >> AND DO YOU FEEL THAT -- AND I'M NOT TRYING TO BE CRITICAL BUT JUST WANT TO ASK THE QUESTIONS THAT ARE LINGERING. DO YOU FEEL THAT 15 CHANGE ORDERS IS -- I KNOW IT'S A ROUND-ABOUT, AND JUST TO ROUND-ABOUT BACK TO DAN LYON'S
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APPROACH, WHICH IS FUNNY AND GOOD, DO YOU FEEL THAT THE 15 CHANGE ORDERS REQUIRED TO CREATE THIS RESIGNED-ABOUT, WERE FORESEEABLE IN ANY KIND OF WAY? I GUESS MOVING FORWARD WE'RE GOING TO KEEP DOING THESE THINGS, HOW CAN WE SHORTEN THAT CHANGE ORDER PROCESS AND ENHANCETHE INITIAL ASSESSMENT INSTEAD. >> I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW. I DON'T THINK ANYTHING WAS NECESSARILY FORESEEABLE. IF IT WAS, I THINK WE WOULD HAVE MADE THOSE ADJUST.
S IN DESIGN. THERE ARE JUST THINGS WHEN YOU GET OUT ON TO THE GROUND AND START DOING THINGS, YOU REALIZE YOU HAVE TO DO THEM A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENTLY THAN PLANNED AND SOMETIMES IT'S JUST YOU WHAT HAPPENS ONCE YOU START, ONCE YOU TEAR UP THE ROAD AND ED HAVE PEOPLE ON A DIFFERENT LANE AND MAYTHAT THAT'S NOT WORKING VERY WELL, YOU SHOULD CANDIDATE TO IT IN A DIFFERENT WAY. THAT MAY MEAN THAT YOU HAVE TO CLOSE ANOTHER LANE AND MAKE THE PROJECT TAKE LONGER TO CONSTRUCT. YOU CAN'T CONSTRUCT THOSE TWO LANES AT ONE TIME LIKE WE INTENDED TO. SO, I MEAN, I THINK IT IS -- IT'S THE NATURE OF IT. I MEAN, THAT'S WHY YOU HAVE SUCH A DETAILED LIST, AND THIS WAS GONE OVER MULTIPLE TIMES. WE HAD MULTIPLE MEETINGS WITH STAFF, INTERNAL STAFF, WITH JERRY'S STAFF. OUR CONSULTANT ITS, OUR TEAMS ON THE GROUND SIGH WHAT IS SOMETHING THAT IS BECAUSE OF SO. YOU KNOW, SOMETHING WE COULD NOT FORESEE OR IS THIS SOMETHING WE DID NOT BELIEVE THAT THAT IS OUR FAULT OR IN RESPONSE TO OUR DESIGN FOR CONTRACTING.
WE WENT THROUGH ALL THAT. SO WE DID TAKE THINGS OFF IT. WE SAID NO.
WE DON'T THINK THAT WAS A RESULT OF ANY CHANGE THAT WE MADE TO THE DSIGN OR TO THE PHASING OF THE PROJECT. THERE WERE THINGS WHEN OUR TEAM ALL AGREED THAT, YES, THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE DID. THE SAME WITH SOME OF THE NEGATIVES.
WE'D COME IN AND SAY, OKAY, DID YOU IT THIS WAY SO YOU DIDN'T HAVE AS MUCH ASPHALT, SO WE'RE GOING TO EXPECT A DEDEDUCT FROM THAT BECAUSE WE WATCHED YOU DO THAT AND YOU USED LESS.
BUT I THINK THAT THAT LIST IS ABOUT AS DETAILED AS ONE THAT I'VE SEEN BECAUSE WE WERE VERY FOCUSED ON THIS PROJECT. I THINK, YOU KNOW, IT WAS A HIGH-PROFILE BUDGET THE FIRST ROUND-ABOUT IN THE COUNTY. THERE WAS A LOT OF PEOPLE WORKING ON IT, DOING THINGS THAT HADN'T BEEN DONE BEFORE, AND SO I'M VERY PLEASED WITH THE OUTCOME OF WHAT OUR PEOPLE DID OUR INTERNAL CONTROLS ON THE PROJECT WAS. NOT THAT WE CAN'T IMPROVE.
BUT TO BID, YOU KNOW, THAT TYPE OF A PROJECT, AND I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT THE SECOND LOW BID WAS, WE COULD PROBABLY GET THAT -- FIND THAT OUT, WHEN THIS WAS BID.
I KNOW THERE WERE MULTIPLE BIDDERS. BUT, YOU KNOW, IT COULD BE LESS THAN WHAT THE SECOND BID WAS EVEN AFTER CHANGE ORDERS, I WOULD SUSPECT IT APPLY BE.
IT'S JUST THOSE BIDS ARE COMING IN BASED ON WHAT WE SAY HE DESIGN IS, AND IF WE CHANGE THAT FOR GOOD REASONS, THEN WE COULD EXPECT THAT THERE MAY BE SOME CHANGE ORDERS.
>> AND THOSE FOLKS THAT SUBMITTED BIDS WALKED THE SITE BEFORE THEY SUBMITTED IT, RIGHT,
MOST LIKELY? >> YEAH. ABSOLUTELY.
IT'S VERY DETAILED, OBVIOUSLY, BUT WHEN YOU START CONSTRUCTING SOMETHING, IF ANYONE'S EVER BUILT ANYTHING, IT HAPPENS -- I'LL REMODELS A HOUSE AND YOU START DIG SOMEWHERE AND REALIZE, WELL, THAT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WE THOUGHT. I GUESS WE COULD SPEND A LOT MORE UPFRONT, WE COULD HAVE PROBABLY SPENT $2 MILLION UP FRONT DIGGING HOLES AND TURNING DIRT BEFORE WE EVER BID IT OUT TO SEE EXACTLY WHAT IT WAS. MAYBE WE WOULD HAVE ENDED UP -- I DON'T KNOW. THOSE ARE CONSIDERATIONS WE TAKE IN IN HOW MUCH TO INVEST AND THAT THE DESIGN AND CONTINUED REFINEMENT OF THAT AND UNDERSTANDING THAT THERE'S GOING TO POTENTIALLY BE CHANGE ORDERS ONE WAY OR THE OTHER. I DON'T KNOW.
I CAN SAY I STAND BEHIND THIS. IT'S NOT LIKE I WANT TO WASTE MONEY.
BUT GIVE MONEY TO COX CONSTRUCTION FOR THE FUN OF IT OR SOMETHING LIKE, THAT THAT'S RIDICULOUS. I THINK OUR TEAM DID A REALLY GOOD JOB TRYING TO GET A GOOD PROJECT TOGETHER, WHICH IS. WE PRESENTED AT TX-DOT CONFERENCE ON THIS PROJECT, HAD A LARGE GROUP OF FOLKS WHEN THEY LEARNED MORE ABOUT IT. IT'S SOMETHING I'M VERY PROUD
OF. >> OKAY, GOOD. ANY OTHER COMMENTS, QUESTIONS,
CONCERNS? PLEASE CALL A ROLL. >> COMMISSIONER JONES.
>> YES. >> COMMISSIONER INGLESBY? >> YES.
>> COMMISSIONER SMITH? >> YES. >> COMMISSIONER SHELL?
[I3. Discussion and possible action to approve a resolution in support of TXDOT designing and constructing signal lights on FM 110 at the intersections of Redwood Road and FM 621. INGALSBE/BORCHERDING]
>> YES. >> JUDGE BECERRA. >> I3 DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION TO SUPPORT A RESOLUTION IN SUPPORT OF TX-DOT DESIGNING AND CONSTRUCTING SIGNAL LIGHTS
ON FM110 AT THE INTERSECTIONS OF REDWOOD ROAD AND 21. >> SECOND.
>> MAGNIFICENT. >> YEAH, WELL , JUDGE FM-110 HAS BEEN A REALLY SUCCESSFUL AND GREAT ROADWAY TO MOVE TRAFFIC AROUND, UNFORTUNATELY, THERE'S A COUPLE OF INTERSECTIONS, THESE TWO MAINLY, THAT THERE HAVE BEEN SOME SERIOUS CRASHES AND FATALITIES.
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WE SPOKE -- OR I SPOKE WITH WILLIE SAMORA, OUR TX-DOT AREA ENGINEER AND ASK IF THERE WAS ANYWAY THAT -- WE'VE MADE IMPROVEMENTS, PUT RUMBLE STRIPS DOWN.WE'VE PUT FLASHING WARNING LIGHTS TO LET THE TRAFFIC DRIVERS KNOW THAT THERE IS A STOP SIGN COMING UP. HOWEVER, WE'RE STILL HAVING ISSUES, AND SO I ASKED IF THERE WAS ANYWAY THAT WE COULD TAKE A LOOK AT THOSE INTERSECTIONS AND GET STOP LIES INSTALLED.
THERE IS AN EXTREMELY LONG LIST OF INTERSECTIONS THROUGHOUT COUNTY THAT HE MENTIONED, THAT NEEDED STOPLIGHTS AND THAT THEY WERE DISCUSSING AND SO I TALKED TO JERRY BORESHERDINE AND ASKED IF THERE WERE ANY FUNDS THAT WE COULD CONTINUE TOWARDS THESE TWO PROJECTS AND JERRY IDENTIFIED $350,000 AFTER TALKING TO WILLIE AND LETTING HIM KNOW THAT WE HAD COME UP WITH THE $350,000 HE SPOKE WITH HIS DIVISION AND THEY HAVE DECIDED TO MOVE THE INSTALLATION OF SIGNAL LIGHTS FOR THOSE TWO INTERSECTIONS AND SO I'M VERY GRATEFUL TO WILLIE, TO JERRY AND EVERYBODY THAT WAS INVOLVED IN THAT. IT'S JUST SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE AND, YOU KNOW, IT'S A GREAT ROAD, AND I DON'T WANT IT TO BE, YOU KNOW, MARKED WITH FATALITIES.
SO... >> GOOD MOVE. VERY RESPONSIBLE.
THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER. >> COMMISSIONERS, ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENT AS SOON AS PLEASE CALL
THE ROLL. >> COMMISSIONER SHELL. >> YES.
>> COMMISSIONER INGLESBY. >> YES. >> COMMISSIONER JONES.
[I4. Discussion and possible action to consider the release of the subdivision bond #ES00007788 in the amount of $350,046.72 for Headwaters at Barton Creek subd., Phase 5, Section 1. SMITH/BORCHERDING]
>> YES. >> COMMISSIONER SMITH. >> YES.
>> JUDGE BECERRA. >> YES. >>> I4 DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION TO CONSIDER THE RELEASE OF THE SUBDIVISION BOND NUMBER ES00007788 IN THE AMOUNT OF $350,046.72 FOR HEAD WATERS AT BRIDAL CREEK SUBDIVISION PHASE 5 SECOND 1.
>> VERY WELL WRITTEN, AGENDA ITEM. SELF-EXPLANATORY.
PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. >> COMMISSIONER JONES. >> YES.
>> COMMISSIONER INGLESBY. >> YES. >> COMMISSIONER SHELL.
[I5. Discussion and possible action to authorize the County Judge to execute an Interlocal Agreement between Hays County and the City of Kyle relating to the County's Kohlers Crossing/Union Pacific Railroad grade-separation project and amend the budget accordingly. JONES/BORCHERDING]
>> YES. >> COMMISSIONER SMITH. >> YOUNG?
>> YES. >> I5 DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION TO AUTHORIZE THE COUNTY JUDGE TO EXECUTE AN INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT BETWEEN HAYS COUNTY AND THE CITY OF KYLE RELATING TO THE COUNTY'S KOHLER'S CROSSING UNION SPECIFIC RAILROAD, GRADE SEPARATION PROJECT AND AMEND THE
BUDGET ACCORDLY. >> SO MOVED. >> SECOND.
>> PERFECT. JUDGE, THIS IS PART OF OUR 2016 BOND PROGRAM.
THE COUNTY IS TRYING TO MOVE THE SWITCHING STATION OUTSIDE OF THE CITY LIMITS OF KYLE SO THEY DON'T HAVE THOSE THREE INTERSECTIONS BLOCKED UP. TX-DOT AND UP HAVE ALL AGREED TO, IT THE ONLY STIPULATION IS BEFORE WE MOVE THOSE, WE HAVE TO HAVE AN ABOVE-GRADE BRIDGE OVER AT KOHLER'S CROSSING AT THOSE TRACKS. AND THIS AGENDA ITEM JUST CODIFIES THAT THE CITY OF CONNELL HAS SOME PARTICULAR ESTHETICS THAT THEY WANT FOR THE WALKING PATH AND EVERYTHING AND LET'S JUST MAKE SURE THAT THEY KNOW THAT THEY ARE RESPONSIBLE
FOR THOSE CALLS. JERRY, DID I LEAVE ANYTHING OUT? >> PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.
>> COMMISSIONER SMITH? >> YES. >> COMMISSIONER SHELL?
>> YES. >> COMMISSIONER INGLESBY. >>> YES.
[I6. Discussion and possible action to authorize the County Judge to execute Contract Amendment No. 1 in the amount of $110,000.00 to the Professional Services Agreement between Hays County and HDR Engineering, Inc. for engineering design services for Kohlers Crossing grade separation at Union Pacific Railroad in Pct. 2, and amend the budget accordingly. JONES/BORCHERDING]
>> COMMISSIONER JONES. >> YES. >> AND JUDGE BACERRA.
>> I6, DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION TO AUTHORIZE THE COUNTY JUDGE TO EXECUTE CONTRACT AMENDMENT NUMBER 1 IN THE AMOUNT OF $110,000 TO THE PROFESSIONAL SERVICES AGREEMENT BETWEEN HAYS COUNTY AND HDR ENGINEERING, INC. FOR ENGINEERING DESIGN SERVICES FOR KOHLERS CROSSING GRADE SEPARATION AT UNION PACIFIC AREA AND PRECINCT 2 AND AMEND THE BUDGET ACCORDINGLY.
>> SO MOVED. >> SECOND. >> AND MR. DAN LYON SIGNED UP TO
SPEAK. >> THANK YOU , JUDGE BACERRA, COMMISSIONER JONES ANSWERED PART OF THIS WHEN HE WAS TALKING ABOUT THE PATH AND THE ESTHETIC TREATMENTS SO THAT THE CITY OF KYLE HAS REQUESTED AND HE INDICATED THAT THE CITY OF KYLE WILL BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT.
>> YES, SIR. >> RIGHT. SO ANYWAY, LET ME JUST READ THE WHOLE SUMMARY HERE. IT SAYS REQUESTED CONTRACT AMENDMENT NUMBER 1 INCREASES THE CONTRACTLE COMPENSATION CAP BY $110, FROM $800,000 TO $910,000. THIS WILL ALLOW FOR THE EXECUTION OF SUPPLEMENTAL NUMBER 3 TO WORK AUTHORIZATION NUMBER 1 IN THE AMOUNT OF $144,626.32
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WHICH AUTHORIZE THE ADDITION OF A PATH AND ESTHETIC TREATMENTS REQUESTED BY THE CITY OF KYLE TO THE DESIGN OF THE KOHLERS CROSSING PROJECT MY QUESTION IS IF WE'RE PUTTING IN $110,000, WHY ARE WE DOING THAT IF THE CITY OF KYLE IS GONNA PAY FOR THESE ESTHETIC TREATMENTS IN THEPATH AND WHATEVER. >> I BELIEVE THAT'S THE FUNDS HAVE TO COME TO US FIRST AND RUN BACK THROUGH. SO THEY'RE PAYING THE COUNTY, AND THEN THE COUNTY WILL PAY IT.
BECAUSE WE'RE TAKING THE LEAD ON THIS. WE'RE THE GENERAL CONTRACTOR, I GUESS, IS THE BEST WAY TO PUT IT SO THE CITY CAN'T MAKE A DIRECT PATIENT TO HDR, IT'S UNDER THE
COUNTY'S CONTRACT. >> ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.
>> YOU BET. >> PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. >> COMMISSIONER SHELL.
>> YES. >> COMMISSIONER JONES. >> YES.
>> COMMISSIONER SMITH. >> YES. >> COMMISSIONER INGLESBY.
[I7. Discussion and possible action to approve the selection of Raba-Kistner, Inc. to provide construction, engineering & inspection (CE&I) services on an On-Call basis related to road improvement projects in Hays County; and authorize staff and counsel to negotiate a contract, as well as a Work Authorization #1 for CE&I services on the FM 110 South Grading project as part of the TxDOT/Hays County Partnership Program. INGALSBE/BORCHERDING]
>> JUDGE BECERRA. >> OKAY, I7. >> WE PULLED THAT.
[I8. Discussion and possible action to authorize the County Judge to execute Contract Amendment No. 1 in the amount of $40,000.00 to the Professional Services Agreement between Hays County and K Friese & Associates, Inc. to provide post construction drainage report and documents for the Lime Kiln Road project in Precinct 3 and authorize a discretionary exemption pursuant to Texas Local Government Code Ch. 262.024(a)(4). SHELL/BORCHERDING]
>> I8 PLEASE. >> DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION TO AUTHORIZE THE COUNTY JUDGE TO EXECUTE CONTRACT AMENDMENT NUMBER 1 IN THE AMOUNT OF $40,000 TO THE PROFESSIONAL SERVICES AGREEMENT BETWEEN HAYS COUNTY AND K FREESE AND ASSOCIATES, INC. TO PROVIDE POST CONSTRUCTION DRAINAGE REPORT AND DOCUMENTS THAT THE LIME KIN ROAD PROJECT AND PRECINCT 3 AND AUTHORIZE THE DISCRETIONARY EXEMPTION PURSUANT TO TEXAS LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE.
>> SO MOVED. >> SECOND. >> MR. DAN LANE, BATTER UP.
>> THANK YOU JUDGE BACERRA. LET ME GO AHEAD AND READ THE SUMMARY OF THE REQUESTED CONTRACT AMENDMENT NUMBER 1, INCREASES THE CONTRACT COMPENSATION CAP BY $40,000, FROM $110,000 TO $150,000. THIS WILL ALLOW FOR THE EXECUTION OF SUPPLEMENTAL NUMBER 2 TO WORK AUTHORIZATION NUMBER 1 IN THE AMOUNT OF $52,000. WHICH AUTHORIZE THE COMPLETION OF A FEMA LETTER OF MAP PROVISION APPLICATION PROCESS UTILIZING UPDAYED PHYSICAL MAP PROVISIONS, PMR MODEL PROVIDED BY PEOPLE IN. ONCE AGAIN, 40,000 IS A CONSIDERABLE AMOUNT OF INCREASE FROM THE 110,000, AND NOW IT'S GOING TO BE 150,000.
MY QUESTION IS, DID K FREESE AND ASSOCIATES NOT KNOW THAT THEY WERE GOING TO BE COMPLETING A FEMA LETTER MAP REVISION FOR -- I'M REALLY NOT CLEAR THE ON EXACTLY WHAT THIS IS TALKING ABOUT. AND WHY THEY NEED THE ADDITIONAL MONEY.
BUT THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, MR. LYON. >> COMMISSIONER SHELL.
>> THE ANTI-WOULD BE THEY WERE NOT AWARE THAT THE -- THAT IT WOULD BE REQUIRED.
WE WERE HOPING WE WOULD NOT HAVE TO DO A LOAMER. AT THE END OF THE PROJECT FEMA DID TELL US THEY WERE GOING TO REQUIRE US TO DO THE LOAMER. SO IT WAS NOT INCLUDED IN THE ORIGINAL SCOPE TO COMPLETE THE LOAMER WHICH IS A PRETTY INTENSIVE LONG PROCESS, TAKES A LOT OF TIME AND BACK AND FORTH. THE FEMA LOAMER PROCESS IS EXTREMELY COMPLICATED.
SO NO, HE DID NOT INCLUDE THAT IN THEIR ORIGINAL SCOPE. IS SO ONCE FEMA TOLD US THAT WE HAD TO DO THE LOAMER, THAT'S WHY WE'RE BACK SO WE CAN HAVE THEM PERFORM THE SERVICES.
>> I THINK IT'S FAIR TO SAY ON A LOT OF THESE, THAT WE DIDN'T INCLUDE IT IN THE COUNTY IN THE SCOAPT, BECAUSE WE DIDN'T ANTICIPATE IT. SO WHENEVER THOSE CHANGES COME, IT'S NOT NECESSARILY THAT THE CONTRACTOR IS LOOKING AT IT AND ADDING IT TO IT.
WE FIND OUT THAT THAT'S HOLES IN THE SCOPE THAT WE PUT OUT AND IN DOING THAT, THAT'S WHERE WE HAVE
TO MAKE THOSE CHANGES AS WELL. >> AND THERE WAS A CONTRACTOR THAT BID ON IT THAT WAY.
>> WE COULD HAVE -- YOU KNOW, IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT -- I MEAN, WE MIGHT HAVE SAID -- WE COULD SAY YOU MAY OR MAY NOT, LE NOT INCLUDE IT, AND WE'LL SEE HOW IT GOES.
IF IT ALL WORKS OUT WHERE WE DON'T HAVE TO DO IT, WE DON'T DO IT.
A BORDERLINE ISSUE WAS DEBATED AND WE THOUGHT THE WORK WOULD BE DONE WOULD OT REQUIRE A LOAMER AFTER THE FACT. FEMA WAS GOING TO REQUIRE THE LOAMER, AND WE DON'T HAVE A
CHOICE ON THAT. >> OKAY. >> PLEASE CALL THE ARE ROLL.
>> COMMISSIONER INGLESBY? >> YES. COMMISSIONER SHELL?
>> YES. >> COMMISSIONER SMITH? >> YES.
[I9. Discussion and possible action to consider the acceptance of road construction & surface drainage improvements, and release of the Letter of Credit #20224122 in the amount of $424,008.25 for 6 Creeks subd., Phase 1, Section 6A. SHELL/BORCHERDING]
>> COMMISSIONER JONES? >> YES. >> JUDGE BACERRA.
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>> YES. >> I9 DISCUSS THE POSSIBLE ACTION CONSIDERING THE ACCEPTANCE OF ROAD CONSTRUCTION SURFACE DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENTS AND RELEASE THE LETTER OF CREDIT IN THE AM OF $424,008.25 FOR 6 CREEKS SUBDIVISION PHASE 1, SECTION 6A.
>> SO MOVED. >> SECOND. >> PLEASE CALL THE ROLE,
COMMISSIONER SHELL. >> YES. >> COMMISSIONER SMITH.
[J1. PLN-2026-NP; Anthem, Phase 4A Subdivision (108 Lots). Discussion and possible action to approve final plat and accept fiscal surety for street and drainage improvements. SMITH/MACHACEK]
>> YES. >> COMMISSIONER JONES. >> YES.
>> COMMISSIONER INGLESBY. >> YES. >> JUDGE.
>> YES, J1, PLEASE. >> PLN-2026-NP, ANTHEM PHASE 4A SUBDIVISION, DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION TO APPROVE FINAL PLAT AND DISCUSS STREET AND DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENTS.
>> MOVED. >> SECOND. >> ALL RIGHT.
APPROACH POAD YUM. >> GOOD MORNING , JUDGE BACERRA AND COMMISSIONERS, MY NAME IS COLBY WITH HAYS COUNTY DEVELOPMENT SERVICES IN THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT.
THIS IS A SUBDIVISION LOCATED OFF OF 150 AND PRECINCT 4, IT INCLUDES 102 RESIDENTIAL LOSS, 5 OPEN LOTS AND 1 LIVE STATION LOT. WATER AND WASTE SERVICE WILL BE PROVIDED BY THE CITY OF KYLE, AND FOR THE FISCAL SURETY PORTION OF THE ESTIMATED COST FOR STREET AND DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENTS IN THE AMOUNT OF $1 IX 021,493.78.
THE REMAINING COSTS AMOUNT TO $932,453.78. THERE ARE NO VARIANCES REQUESTED
FOR THIS PROJECT. >> THANK YOU, SIR. >> COMMISSIONER.
>> ALL GOOD. >> PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. >> COMMISSIONER INGLES BEE?
>> YES. >> COMMISSIONER SMITH. >> YES.
>> COMMISSIONER SHELL. >> YES. >> COMMISSIONER JONES.
[J2. PLN-1954-PC; Call for a Public Hearing on December 6th 2022, followed by discussion and possible action regarding the Burnett Ranch, Sec 3, Lot 55, Replat. SHELL/MACHACEK]
>> YES. >> JUDGE BACERRA. >> J2, P01 MINOR 1954-PC, CALL FOR A PUBLIC HEARING ON DECEMBER 6TH 2022 FOLLOWED BY DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION
REGARDING THE BURNETTE RANCH. COMMISSIONER JONES? >> YES.
COMMISSIONER SMITH, YES. COMMISSIONER INGLESBY, YES. COMMISSIONER SHELL , JUDGE.
[J3. PLN-1864-NP; The Vineyard, Phase 2, Final (Vineyard Reserve, Sec A); Discussion and possible action to approve final plat. SHELL/MACHACEK]
>> YES. J3, PLN.1864-NP, THE VINEYARD PHASE 2, FINAL.
DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION TO APPROVE FINAL PLAT. >> SO MOVED.
>> SECOND. >> PLEASE CALL THE ROLE. >> OH, NEVERMIND.
SORRY, SORRY. GETTING AHEAD OF MYSELF. SORRY, COLBY.
>> NOT A PROBLEM. HELLO AGAIN. SO THE VINEYARD PHASE 2, THIS IS ACTUALLY A RESERVED SECTION A WHICH WILL CONSIST OF 16 LOTS WITHIN 14.28 ACRES.
THIS IS LOCATED OFF OF ELDER HILL ROAD AND PRECINCT 3. WATER UTILITY WILL BE PROVIDED BY INDIVIDUAL PRIVATE WELLS, WASTE WATER TREATMENT WILL BE ACCOMPLISHED THROUGH ADVANCED ON-SITE SEWAGE FACILITIES. IT HAS NO VARIANCES REQUESTED AND HAS FULL STAFF
REPRESENTATION FOR APPROVAL. >> BEAUTIFUL. PLEASE CALL ROLL.
>> COMMISSIONER SMITH. >> YES. >> COMMISSIONER JONES.
>> YES. >> COMMISSIONER INGLESBY. >> YES.
>> COMMISSIONER SHELL. >> YOUNG BACERRA. >> YES.
[J4. PLN-2068-NP; Bunk Road Subdivision; Discussion and possible action to approve the final plat. SHELL/MACHACEK]
AND LET'S MOVE ON NOW TO J4. PLN.2068/MV, DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION TO APPROVE THEFINAL PLAT. >> SO MOVED. >> SECOND.
>> OKAY, COLBY. >> ALL RIGHT. >> THE SUBDIVISION IS A PROPOSED PLAT ACROSS 3.101 ACRES, LOCATED OFF OF RANCHO 2325 AND PRECINCT 3.
WATER UTILITY WILL BE ACCOMPLISHED THROUGH PRIVATE WELLS, WASTE WATER TREATMENT WILL BE COMPENSATED BY SEWAGE FACILITIES ON SITE AND NO VARIANCE REQUESTED AND FULL
STAFF RECOMMENDATION FOR APPROVAL. >> WE LOVE TO HEAR THAT, PLEASE CALL ROLL
[J5. PLN-2055-PC; Hold a Public Hearing with possible action to conditionally approve Indian Hills Ranch, Lot 9, Replat. SMITH/MACHACEK]
THOSE WISHING TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS AGENDA ITEM, PLEASE APPROACH THE PODIUM.THIS IS YOUR MOMENT. I SEE NO MOVEMENT. I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
COMMISSIONER... RIGHT ON TO YOU, COLBY. >> THANK YOU AGAIN.
ALL RIGHT, SO THE INDIAN HILLS RANCH SUBDIVISION IS RECORDED -- A RECORDED SUBDIVISION LOCATED OFF WEST RANCH ROAD 150 ON INDIAN HILLS TRAIL IN KYLE AND LOCATED IN PRECINCT 4.
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THE PROPOSED PLAT WILL ESTABLISH TWO LOTS, LOTS 9A AND LOT 9B ACROSS 40.14 ACHE ACRES.WASTE WATER TREATMENT WILL BE ACCOMPLISHED -- WATER UTILITY WILL FIRST BE ACCOMPLISHED THROUGH INDIVIDUAL WELLS AND OUR RAINWATER COLLECTION SYSTEMS. WASTE WATER TREATMENT WILL BE ACCOMPLISHED THROUGH INDIVIDUAL ON SITE SEWAGE FACILITIES THERE ARE NO VARIANCES REQUESTED AND STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL ON THE COMMISSION THAT DEFICIENCIES IS NOTED IN THE BACK-UP WITH THIS
ITEM ARE REMEDIED UPON RECOMMISSION SUBMISSION. >> AND THAT ARE THOSE FOR THE
VIEWING PUBLIC? >> CAN YOU SUMMARIZE? >> YES.
THESE DEFICIENCIES FROM A FLOOD PLAIN REVIEW, THERE'S A DRAINAGE AREA OF 64 ACRES OR MORE, WHICH WOULD REQUIRE A FLIP PLAIN TO BE ESTABLISHED OR IDENTIFICATION OF A LOCAL FLIP PLAIN REQUIRED -- SORRY. AND ALSO PROHIBITING TCU REGULATED DEVELOPMENT.
ADDITIONALLY THERE ARE SOME ITEMS FROM CHAPTER 705, SUBCHAPTER 5 OF THE HAYS COUNTY DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS REQUIRING THE NAMES OF ADJOINING PROPERTY OWNERS SURROUNDING THE SUBJECT PROPERTY. CORRECTION OF THE SCALE ON THE PLAT, FURTHER REGULATIONS IS NOT TO EXCEEDED A SCALE OF 1 INCH TO 200 FEET. SO THE SCALE HAS TO BE CORRECTED. WE KNOW THE ADDITION OF THE PLAT NOTE THAT UNDER DEPARTMENT REGULATIONS THE SUBDIVISION IS EXEMPT FROM THE REQUIREMENT TO DEMONSTRATE WATER AVAILABILITY BUT ALSO FURTHER SUBDIVISION OF THESE PROPERTIES WILL BE PROHIBIT 5 FOR A PERIOD OF FIVE YEARS FOLLOWING THE RECORD ASIAN OF THE PLAT. THE NEXT COMMENT THAT WE HAD WAS TO ENSURE THE PLAT STATES PROPERTIES -- SORRY, I BLANKED ON THE TERM HERE.
THE PROPERTIES PROXIMITY SO THE EDWARDS AQUA FIR RECHARGE ZONE AND CONTRIBUTING ZONE.
WE LIKE TO SEE ON THE PLAT. >> COUPLE OTHER ITEMS HERE, WE KNOW THE BUILDING LINES SETBACKS FROM THE REGULATED ROADWAY THAT IS INDIAN HILLS TRAIL. THE MINIMUM PROPERTY LINE SETBACK AND 25 FEET FROM THE EDGE OF THE RIGHTAWAY. AND LAST BUT NOT LEAST, THE DESIGNATION OF THE PLAT OF EACH ROADWAY TO BE CONSTRUCTED OR EXISTING ROADWAYS OF ANY LOT
DETERMINED IN OUR DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS. >> OKAY, GOOD.
NOTHING TOO AGGRESSIVE. >> AND THE MOTION OF WHAT'S BEING REQUESTED IS CONDITIONAL APPROVAL, BASED ON STATUTORY PROCESSES FROM THE TEXAS BUILDING CODE THAT STATES WITHIN A 30 CALENDAR-DAYTIME FRAME THAT THE COMMISSIONERS DESIGNATEY SHALL APPROVE OR DISAPPROVE.
>> THAT'S RIGHT. NO FOOT DRAGGING, PEOPLE. SO WHAT'S BEING ASKED STAYED CONDITIONAL APPROVAL AND THAT WILL ALLOW THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE COMPLIK CAN'T TO DEFICIENCIES AND ONCE THE DEFICIENCIES ARE REMEDIED, THE DEPARTMENT CAN THEN MOVE FORWARD IN THE APPROVAL. IF WE WERE TO MOVE IN A DIFFERENT FASHION SUCH AS DISAPPROVAL, WE -- THEN THE APPLICANT WOULD HAVE TO RESUBMIT THE ENTIRE APPLICATION.
>> AND GOOD FOR YOU FOR BEING USER-FRIENDLY ON THAT FRONT, THANK YOU FOR THAT.
>> I WOULD LOVE TO SEE MORE SUBDIVISIONS LIKE THIS WHERE THE ACTUAL SUBDIVISION IS ONE LOT THAT'S BEING CUT INTO TWO AND EACH LOT IS ALMOST 20 ACRES. OVER THE RECHARGE ZONE.
I DON'T KNOW IF WE'LL EVER HAVE THAT AUTHORITY, BUT IT IS ONCE WE APPROVE MORE OF THESE THAT
100 HOUSES PER LOT LIKE HAH THAT. >> LET'S MAKE A MOTION.
>> SO MOVED. >> PLEASE CALL THE ROLE. >> COMMISSIONER JONES.
>> YES. >> COMMISSIONER INGLESBY, YES. COMMISSIONER SHELL, YES.
COMMISSIONER SMITH, YES , JUDGE, YES. >> LET'S DO A 10-MINUTE BREAK.
[K1. Discussion and possible action to authorize the County Judge to execute a Memorandum of Understanding (MOU) between Hays County and Southern Methodist University on behalf of the Deason Criminal Justice Reform Center at the Dedman School of Law regarding the collection of information and data necessary to analyze the County's indigent defense services. SHELL]
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KE ACTION TO AUTHORIZE THE COUNTY JUDGE TO EXECUTE A MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING BETWEEN HAYS COUNTY AND SOUTHERN METHODIST UNIVERSITY ON BEHALF OF THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE REFORM CENTER AT THE DEAD MONDAY SCHOOL OF LAW REGARDING THE COLLECTION OF INFORMATION AND DATA KNOWS ANALYZE THE COUNTY'S DEFENSE SERVICES.>> SO MOVED. >> SECOND. >> COMMISSIONER SHELL, SOUNDS
VERY EXCITING. >> THANKS , JUDGE. THIS IS WHAT THE DEAD MONDAY SCHOOL OF LAW AND SOUTHERN METHODIST UNIVERSITY -- DEDMOND SCHOOL OF LAW HAVE BEEN TALKING FOR 18 MONTHS ON THIS IDEA THAT THEY HAD, IN YEP WE THOUGHT THIS IS SOMETHING THE COUNTY CONSIDERED, THEY'VE BEEN WORKING OVER A YEAR TO OBTAIN A FUNDING FOR THIS AND WERE SUCCESSFUL IN OBJECTING AND PART THE DISCUSSIONS THEY'RE GOING TO ANALYZE THOSE IN THE MISDEMEANOR COURSE THAT REPRESENT THEMSELVES TO THOSE WHO HAVE REPRESENTATION TO SEE IF THEY CAN COME TO COME CONCLUSIONS ON THAT IT'S FAIRLY RARE TO HAVE SOMEONE REPRESENTED.
I THOUGHT WOULD BE ANOTHER THING THAT WE COULD PARTICIPATE IN ALTHOUGH THIS IS A SPECIFIC FINDING TO HAYS COUNTY AND COULD BE IMPORTANT FOR US TO HEAR WHAT THEIR FINDINGS ARE AND EVERYONE WAS ON BOARD AND SAID THAT THEY WOULD WORK WITH SMU AND MAKE SURE THAT THEY HAVE THE BEST STUDIES AS POSSIBLE BUT IT'S MAIN THING IS TO BE WITH IT ACCESSING DATA FROM OUR COURT SYSTEMS. DO YOU THINK THEY'LL PROVIDE US THEIR FINDINGS.
>> YES. YES. >> THAT'S EXCITING.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. PLEASE CALL THE ROLL... >> COMMISSIONER INGLESBY.
>> YES. >> COMMISSIONER SMITH, YES. >> COMMISSIONER JONES, YES.
[K2. Discussion and possible action to authorize a salary exception at the 25th percentile for the TB Program Medical Assistant, slot 1130-001 at the Hays County Local Health Department effective on the date of hire. INGALSBE/T.CRUMLEY]
>> COMMISSIONER SHELL. >> YES. >> JUDGE.
>> YES. >> K2, DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION TO AUTHORIZE THE SALARY EXCEPTION AT 25TH PERCENTILE FOR THE TB PROGRAM MEDICAL ASSISTANCE LOT 1130/001 AT THE HAYS COUNTY LOCAL HEALTH DEPARTMENT EFFECTIVE ON THE DATE OF HIRE.
>> SO MOVED. >> SECOND. >> OKAY.
>> GOOD MORNING, COURT. TAMMY DIRECTOR OF COUNTYWIDE OPERATIONS.
THIS POSITION HAS BEEN VACANT SINCE JULY 16TH OF 2021. SO TOMORROW WILL BE 16 MONTHS.
WE HAVE -- IN THE LAST MONTH INTERVIEWED FIVE CANDIDATES TWO HAVE DECLINED BASED ON THEY REQUESTED MORE THAN THE MAX PAY POSITION. ONE HAS FAILED TO SHOW FOR THE INTERVIEW AND ONE WAS OFF OF THE POSITIONS BUT DECLINED. PRIOR TO THAT WE DID NOT HAVE ONE CANDIDATE THAT QUALIFIED FOR THE POCKETS. SO I'M ASKING THAT THIS CANDIDATE BE APPROVED FOR THE 25TH PERCENTILE PAY. SHE HAS EXPERIENCE, SHE HAS BEEN WORKING AS A CERTIFIED NURSING ASSISTANT AND WE BELIEVE THAT SHE IS QUALIFIED TO FILL THIS POSITION. WE ARE IN JEOPARDY OF LOSING OUR GRANT IF WE DO NOT FILL THIS
POSITION. >> WONDERFUL. WONDERFUL THAT YOU FOUND THIS INDIVIDUAL SHERRY MILLER DID REACH OUT TO ME AND SUPPORTS THE AGENDA ITEM ALSO.
[K3. Discussion and possible action to authorize the County Judge to execute an Agreement to Provide Joint Funding in the amount of $20,000.00 for the Provision of Youth Services, between Hays County, Texas State University, San Marcos CISD, and the City of San Marcos, related to the joint funding of a youth services director for the education of local youth. BECERRA]
CALL ROLL POSSIBLE ACTION TO AUTHORIZE THE COUNTY JUDGE TO EXECUTE AN AGREEMENT TO PROVIDE JOINT FUNDING IN THE AMOUNT OF $20,000 FOR THE PROVISION OF YOUTH SERVICES BETWEEN HAYS COUNTY, TEXAS STATE UNIVERSITY, SAN MARCOS CISD, AND THE CITY OF SAN MARCOS RELATED TO THE JOINT[K5. Discussion and possible action related to a Notice from Travis County Fire Rescue to Adopt and Enforce its own Fire Code within Hays County (Caldwell / Hays Co. Emergency Service District #1). JONES/MIKEJONES]
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FUNDING OF THE YOUTH SERVICES DIRECTOR FOR EDUCATION OF LOCAL YOUTH.>> SO MOVED. >> SECOND. >> SELF-EXPLANATORY, PLEASE CALL
THE ROLE. >> COMMISSIONER SHELL. >> YES.
>> COMMISSIONER SMITH. >> YES. >> COMMISSIONER JONES.
>> YES. >> COMMISSIONER INGLESBY. >> YES.
>> JUDGE BECERRA. >> YES. >> K5.
>> DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION RELATED TO A NOTICE FROM TRAVIS COUNTY FIRE RESCUE TO ADOPT AND ENFORCE ITS OWN FIRE CODE WITH HUESO OH WITHIN HAYS COUNTY, CALDWELL HAYS COUNTY EMERGENCY
SERVICE DISTRICT NUMBER 1. >> SO MOVED. >> SECOND.
THE FIRE CODE -- >> GIVES THEM THE OPPORTUNITY TO USE -- IF YOU'LL PLEASE APPROACH
THE PODIUM AND STATE YOUR NAME. >> MIKE JONES, OFFICER OF HAYS COUNTY.
IT SHOULD READ ADOPT THE HAYS COUNTY AND ENFORCE HAYS COUNTY FIRE CODE.
>> THROUGH GO. >> SORRY ABOUT THAT. THEY'LL CONTINUE TO DO THE CONSTRUCTION AND ENFORCEMENT OF THAT AREA AND WE WILL CONTINUE THE MOBILE FOOD COMMITTEE AS WELL AS THE FIRE CODE AS WELL. SO IT WILL REMOVE SOME BURDEN FOR US AND GET CAUGHT UP IN OUR
AREAS WHEN IT COMES TO REVIEWS. >> SO JUST TO RECAP, IN THE PART THAT IS HAYS COUNTY, BUT AUSTIN
CITY LIMITS, THAT WHAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO. >> THE HAYS CALDWELL.
>> CALDWELL, OKAY, GOTCHA. >> SO THE COUNTY LINE NORTH ALL THE WAIT BACK TOWARDS 150.
THE WHOLE SECTION IS ESD1 AND GOES JUST PAST MAYBE 10 MILES, FIVE MILES.
>> YEAH. >> AND THE REST IS ACTUALLY IN THE CALDWELL COUNTY AREA.
>> OKAY. THE OLD CHISM ESD. >> AND THE FIRE DEPARTMENT IS
JUST THE -- >> JUST THE ESD, BUT NOT THE TRAVIS COUNTY GOVERNMENT.
>> CORRECT. >> THEY CONTRACT TO DO THE ESD WORK WITHIN HAYS COUNTY.
>> BUT WE'RE ABOUT TO UNDO THAT ONCE OUR FOOT SPRINT BUILT, CORRECT?
>> NO. IT -- THEY CAN -- RIGHT NOW THEY'RE CONTRACTING WITH --
BUTA DSD WOULD LIKE TO DO IT BUT -- >> SO THERE'S NO REAL PROGRESS
ON THAT CORNER YET. >> YES, SIR. >> OKAY.
AND JUST TO RECAP, SORRY, GUYS, GOTTA MAKE SURE, THEN WE WILL CONTINUE TO DO THE PERMITS.
CAN YOU REPEAT WHAT YOU JUST SAID. >> CONTINUE THE FIRE WERES AS WELL AS THE MOBILE FOOD PERMITS AND THEY'LL TAKE OVER THE CODE ENFORCEMENT AND RENEW THE INSPECTIONS. THE SAME CODE WE HAVE IN HAYS COUNTY.
>> OUR CODE. THEY WILL WORK OUR CODE. >> YES.
>> PERFECT. >> AND IF WE EVOLVE -- IF WE EVOLVE TO ANOTHER CODE THERE ON
THEY'LL FOLLOW SO THEY'RE ON THE SAME PAGE AS US. >> THANK YOU FOR THAT
CLARIFICATION. >> IN THE SUMMARY, THOUGH, IT DOES EXPLAIN -- BECAUSE I WAS LIKE, I KNOW I READ WHERE IT SAYS THAT, BUT IN THE SUMMARY IT DOES SAY TRAVIS COUNTY FIRE RESCUE HAS ADOPTED THE CURRENT CASE COUNTY FIRE CODE. SO THE SUMMARY IS CORRECT.
>> YES, MA'AM. THE AGENDA ITEMS THAT WERE READ ENFORCE THE HAYS COUNTY CURRENT
CODE FOR RS D1. >> AND THIS IS JUST ADMINISTRATIVE.
>> THANK YOU. >> LET'S DO THAT, FORMAL MOTION. >> I'LL MAKE A NOTION HAVE TRAVIS COUNTY FIRE AND RESCUE TO ADOPT AND ENFORCE THE HAYS COUNTY FIRE CODE WITHIN HAYS
COUNTY. >> I SECOND. >> MOTION TO SECOND.
PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. >> COMMISSIONER SMITH. >> YES.
>> COMMISSIONER JONES? >> YES. COMMISSIONER HE SHELL?
[K6. Discussion and possible action to award a contract for IFB 2022-B19 Metal Beam Guard Fence (MBGF) Materials to Texas Corrugators for materials used primarily by the Transportation Department. BECERRA/BORCHERDING]
>> YES, COMMISSIONER INGLE BEE? >> YES , JUDGE BECERRA. >> YES.
>> K6, DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO AWARD A CONTRACT FOR IFB 2022-B19 METAL BEAM GUARD FENCE MATERIALS TO TEXAS CORRUGATORS FOR MATERIALS USED PRIMARILY BY THE TRANSPORTATION
DEPARTMENT. >> SO MOVED. >> SECOND.
>> PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. >> COMMISSIONER SHELL, YES. COMMISSIONER SMITH, YES,
[K7. Discussion and possible action to execute a Co-Terminus Accessory Addition Amendment with Ricoh USA, Inc. to add fax service to the Hays County Tax Office Copier for an additional $28.50 per month. BECERRA/O'KANE]
COMMISSIONER JONES, YES. COMMISSIONER INGLESBY, YES , JUDGE BECERRA.>> YES, K7, DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO EXECUTE A COTERMINUS ACCESSORY ADDITIONAL AMENDMENT TO ACT FAX SERVICE TO THE THE HAYS COUNTY TAX OFFICE COPIER FOR AN ADDITIONAL $28.50
PER MONTH FOR RICOH USA. >> $28.50 FOR A FAX LINE? >> PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.
>> COMMISSIONER INGLESBY? >> YES, COMMISSIONER SMITH? >> YES, COMMISSIONER SHELL?
>> YES, COMMISSIONER JONES? >> YES. JUDGE BECERRA.
[K8. Discussion and possible action to authorize the County Judge to execute the Hays County American Rescue Plan Recovery Grant Agreement between Hays County and Gunner Thames Memorial Foundation regarding recovery assistance for direct or indirect impacts of COVID-19 and amend the budget accordingly. SMITH]
>> YES. >> PLEASE OPEN K8. >> K8, DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION TO AUTHORIZE THE COUNTY JUDGE TO EXECUTE THE HAYS COUNTY AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN RECOVERY GRANT AGREEMENT BETWEEN HAYS COUNTY AND GUNNER THAMES MEMORIAL FOUNDATION REGARDING RECOVERY ASSISTANCE FOR DIRECT OR INDIRECT IMPACTS OF COVID-19 AND AIDE THE BUDGET ACCORDINGLY.
>> SO MOVED. >> SECOND. >> THANK YOU , JUDGE.
THIS IS ANOTHER ONE OF THE ORGANIZATIONS THAT'S COME FORWARD LOOK AT THE LOSS MODEL.
FOR THOSE OF Y'ALL WHO ARE NOT NECESSARILY FAMILIAR WITH GUNNER THAMES, HE WAS A LOCAL YOUTH WHO
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WAS LOST AT THE AGE OF 15. BUT HE WAS VERY INVOLVED IN 4H HUNTING, FISHING, THOSE KINDS OF THINGS AND THERE WAS A FOUNDATION SET UP IN HIS HONOR WHICH ACTUALLY INVEST 100% OF ANY INCOME THEY HAVE BACK IN THE COMMUNITY. COVID, JUST LIKE WITH MOST OF OUR FILES WERE HIT PRETTY HARD AND WE ARE PRETTY EXCITED TO BE ABLE TO MOVE THOSE FUNDS OVER FROM ARPA INTO KIND OF MAKING UP SOME OF THAT FUNDING. THEY'RE VERY ACTIVE WITH BUTA, BOAG AS WELL AS THE HATES COUNTY LIVESTOCK SHOWS AND RODEOS. THE OTHER THING I WOULD SAY IS IN THE BACK-UP LOOKING AT THAT, VICKY, IT SAYS IF YOU LOOK WHERE THE MONEY'S GOING, IT SAYS PLUS OF THE CASA LINE. DID YOU SEE THAT? OKAY.THAT'S JUST A CORRECTION THAT WE PROBABLY NEED TO CATCH, JUST TO CLARIFY THE FUNDING WOULD NOT BE GOING CASA. THIS IS IN ADDITION, THIS IS THE GUNNER THAMES, SO...
>> AND WITH THAT, I KNOW COMMISSIONER JONES HAS WORKED WITH THIS ORGANIZATION, YOU MAY
WANT TO SAY SOMETHING. >> IT'S A GREAT ORGANIZATION. AND YOU KNOW, THEY DO A LOT OF WORK, THEY GIVE A LOT OF SCHOLARSHIPS AND LIKE YOU SAID, THEY WERE HURT BY COVID AND IT'S ONE OF THE -- THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT WORK FOR THIS ORGANIZATION, DO A LOT OF GOOD
THINGS. >> WERE YOU GOING TO ADD ANYTHING? I SAW YOU REACH FOR THE MIC. OKAY. PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.
>> COMMISSIONER JONES? >> YES, COMMISSIONER SHELL? >> YES, COMMISSIONER SMITH?
>> YES, COMMISSIONER INGLESBY? >> YES , JUDGE BECERRA, YES. M2, DISCUSSION RELATED TO THE HAYS COUNTY INMATE POPULATION TO INCLUDE CURRENT POPULATION COUNTS AND COSTS.
>> THE JURORS OFFICE SAYS MY OFFICE THE JAIL REPORT OUR CAPACITY 410 INMATES BUT JAIL STANDARDS RECOMMENDS 10% TO BE LEFT OPEN, WHICH LOWERS OUR CAPACITY TO 368.
JAILS DAILY AVERAGE WAS 635. 639 ON NOVEMBER 9TH. THE ESTIMATED COST FOR OUTSOURCING INMATES THIS WEEK IS 155,528. WHAT A JUMP.
THE AVERAGE NUMBER OF OUTSOURCE MALES IS 248, AND FEMALES ARE 22.
THIS WEEK'S INMATES WERE HOUSED IN THE FOLLOWING COUNTIES... MY HOPE IS THAT WE CAN START CONSOLIDATING THESE TO MORE NEARBY FACILITIES SINCE WE JUST RENEWED BLANCO'S, SINCE WE HAVE 1,000-BED FACILITY AND COMEL, I MEAN, WITH VERY OPTIONS, BUT THEY DON'T NEED TO BE SO FAR AWAY. DURING THE MONTH OF OCTOBER 2022, THE COUNTY JAIL TRUSTEES WORKED A TOTAL OF 5238 HOURS AT THE RATE OF $12 AN HOUR FOR A SAVINGS OF $62,000.
THE JOBS WERE FORMED BY THESE TRUSTEES, RANGE FROM KITCHEN, LAUNDRY, CLEANING WITH THE FACILITY AND SPECIAL PROJECT ASSIGNMENTS. THANK YOU FOR THAT.
PAPER READY INMATES ARE COUNTY INMATES THAT HAVE TURNED INTO STAKE INMATES, HAD THEIR DAY IN COURT, BEEN FOUND GUILTY, 22 OF THOSE ARE STATE INMATES, PAPER-READY INMATES THAT ARE
WAITING TO BE PICKED UP BY THE STATE. >> AT LEAST THAT'S DOWN.
[L. EXECUTIVE SESSIONS]
>> YES, IT IS. AND THAT LEAVES US WITH EXECUTIVE SESSION STEMS. IS THERE A REASON WE SHOULDN'T OPEN ANY OF THEM, MR. KENNEDY, OR OPEN THEM ALL?
PLEASE OPEN ALL EXECUTIVE SESSION ITEMS. >> 1, EXECUTIVE SESSION PURSUANT SECTIONS 551.071 AND 551.072 OF THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE. CONSULTATION WITH COUNSEL AND DELIBERATION REGARDING THE PURCHASE EXCHANGE, LEASE AND/OR VALUE OF REAL PROPERTY ASSOCIATED WITH PARKS AND OPEN SPACE PROJECTS BEING CONSIDERED BY HAYS COUNTY.
POSSIBLE DISCUSSION AND/OR ACTION MAY FOLLOW IN OPEN COURT. >> WE'RE GO TO HIT THEM ALL.
>> 2, EXECUTIVE SESSION PURSUANT TO SECTIONS 551.0 071, AND 551.0 BE 72 OF THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE, CONSULTATION WITH COUNSEL AND DELIBERATION REGARDING THE PURCHASE EXCHANGE, LEASE AND/OR VALUE OF REAL PROPERTY LOCATED AT 101 THURMON DRIVE, SAN MARCOS.
POSSIBLE DISCUSSION AND/OR ACTION MAY FOLLOW IN OPEN COURT. >> L3, EXECUTIVE SESSION PURSUANT TO SECTION 551.071 OF THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE, CONSULTATION WITH COUNSEL
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RELATED TO PUBLIC FINANCING OF THE LA CIMA PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT, NEIGHBORHOOD IMPROVEMENT AREA NUMBER 3. POSSIBLE DISCUSSION AND ACTION MAY FOLLOW IN OPEN COURT.L4, EXECUTIVE SESSION PURSUANT TO SECTIONS 551.071 AND 551.072 OF THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE.
CONSULTATION WITH COUNSEL AND DELIBERATION REGARDING THE PURCHASE EXCHANGE LEASE AND/OR VALUE OF REAL PROPERTY LOCATED IN 2400 NORTH IH 35 SAN MARCOS. POSSIBLE ACTION -- POSSIBE DISCUSSION AND/OR ACTION MAY FOLLOW IN OPEN COURT. L5, EXECUTIVE SESSION PURSUANT TO 551.071 OF THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE, CONSULTATION WITH COUNSEL REGARDING THE COUNTY'S REINVESTMENT ZONE POLICY AND REGARDING THE TAX INCREMENT REINVESTMENT ZONE NUMBER 2 IN KYLE. POSSIBLE ACTION MAY FOLLOW IN OPEN COURT.
MOTION. >> SO MOVED. >> SECOND.
>> WE'RE GOING TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION. IF YOU ARE NOT TIED TO OUR AGENDA ITEM -- WHICH ONE FOR US, MR. KENNEDY? L2.
DIRECTLY TIED TO L3 PLEASE CLEAR THE COURTROOM.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.