Oct 25, 2022 Regular

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>> I LIKE TO KICK OFF A COUPLE OF MINUTES EARLY.

I WILL OFFICIALLY START US AT 9 O'CLOCK BUT I WILL TELL YOU ALL THAT I HAVE BEEN ASKED TO PULL K2, SO THAT WILL NOT BE DISCUSSED TODAY. AND THE SEQUENCE OF EVENTS THIS MORNING, FOR THE FIRST PART WILL BE PUBLIC COMMENTS, PRESENTATIONS AND PROCLAMATIONS.

THEN STRAIGHT TO G30, WHICH HIS ELECTION ITEMS BROUGHT TO COURT AND K4, PUBLIC DEFENDERS OFFICE.

I WILL DO THAT THEN EVERYTHING IS FOR JESSE KNOW AND UNDERSTAND BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE HERE WITH SUITCASES TRYING TO BE IN COURT AND CATCH A PLANE. I AM BEING MINDFUL THE BEST I CAN WITH WHAT'S GOING ON. WE DO HAVE A REAL DESIRE TO STAY ON TIME, STAY ON TRACK, STAY CONSISTENT, ALL THE WHILE

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NOW IT IS OFFICIALLY 9 O'CLOCK, I CAN SAY.

I LIKE TO CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER OFFICIALLY.

AND THIS MORNING IS INVOCATION WILL BE LED BY OUR PASTOR, DARIUS TODD.F YOU WILL PLEASE ALL RISE.

>> LET US BOW. FATHER JESUS AND THEN WE COME TO TODAY THANK YOU FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY TO HONOR YOU AND RECOGNIZE YOUR PRESENCE IN THIS PLACE.

WE PLAY FOR THIS COUNTY AND THE COUNTRY.

WE PRAY FOR US CITIZENS AND ALL OF THOSE WHO ABIDE HERE.

WE PLAY YOU HELPLESS TO LEAD AND TO PROVIDE GRACE FOR ALL OF THOSE WHO LIVE HERE. AS WE MAKE DECISIONS.

PRAY LORD GOD THAT YOU HELP US TO GUIDE OUR TONE AND GARTER COMMENTS. HELP US TO MAKE DECISIONS THAT WILL PLEASE YOU AND PROVIDE PEACE IN THIS LAND.

WE JOIN WITH THOSE GATHERED OUTSIDE GATHERED 40 DAYS, ASK THAT YOU WOULD ERADICATE THE CRIME AND EVIL THAT HAS ENTERED INTO OUR SPACE. AND ABOVE ALL THINGS, HELP US TODAY, THAT WE MAY FOLLOW WHAT YOU HAVE ORDAINED AND THAT YOU MAY GET YOUR GLORY OUT OF ALL THE DECISIONS THAT ARE MADE IN THIS COURT. PRAY IN THE NAME OF JESUS,

AMEN. >> I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. HONOR THE TEXAS FLAG; I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THEE, TEXAS, ONE STATE UNDER GOD, ONE AND

INDIVISIBLE. >> BECAUSE WE ARE ON A TIGHT

[E. PUBLIC COMMENTS]

THOSE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO HAVE SUBMITTED PUBLIC PARTICIPATION WITNESS FORM WILL HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.

UNFORTUNATELY, NO ACTION MAY BE TAKEN.

>> WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO TAKE ROLL?

>> SURE, LET'S TAKE ROLL. [LAUGHTER]

>>.

INTERRUPTING. >> YOU DOING THE RIGHT THING.

UNFORTUNATELY NO ACTION MAY BE TAKEN AS WERE EXPECTED NOT TO RESPOND. PLEASE BE CIVIL AND RESPECTFUL OR YOU WILL FORFEIT THE REMAINDER OF YOUR TIME.

IN THE SPIRIT OF RESPECT, PLEASE PLEASE SILENCE YOUR CELL PHONES. THERE ARE FOLKS HERE THAT HERE TO SPEAK I WILL SAY THIS, PUBLIC COMMENTS, THERE ARE TWO WAYS TO APPROACH THE PODIUM. ONE IS NOW WITH NOT TIED TO AN AGENDA ITEM SPECIFICALLY AND THE OTHER IS, IF YOU SEND IT TO SPEAK AND AN AGENDA ITEM. I WILL GO THROUGH THE LIST OF FOLKS ASSIGNED TO SPEAK NOW AND IF YOU WANT TO SPEAK IN THE NOW MOMENT THAT IT WILL REOPEN THE AGENDA ITEM OF YOUR CHOOSING, WE CAN ALWAYS SWAP YOU BUT YOU CANNOT HAVE BOTH.

OKAY? FIRST UP MR. DAVID BOYD, YOU

WILL HAVE THREE MINUTES.>> THANK YOU.

GOOD MORNING COMMISSIONERS. MY NAME IS DAVID BOYD, I'M HERE TO SPEAK ON THE ELECTION INTEGRITY.

2020 ELECTION WAS RAMPANT WITH REPORTS OF IRREGULARITIES.

SIGNIFICANTLY LARGE NUMBER OF AMERICAN VOTERS BELIEVE THAT THE RESULTS OF THE 2020 ELECTION -- LACK OF ORDER

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AND CONTRACTS TIED TO ELECTRONIC VOTING.

EXACERBATING VOTER CONFIDENCE IS A POLICY OF EARLY VOTING.

WHICH LEADS AMPLE OPPORTUNITY FOR FRAUDULENT ACTIVITY.AS DOCUMENTED FOLLOWING THE 2020 ELECTION.

RETURN TO PAPER BALLOTS HAND COUNTED, TO HELP RESTORE THE ELECTION ACCURACY AND VOTER CONFIDENCE.

PERHAPS, WE NEED ELECTION DAY TO BE A NATIONAL LEGAL HOLIDAY.

AS AN ELECTION JUDGE, IN ILLINOIS, FOR SEVERAL YEARS, I WITNESSED WHAT I BELIEVE WERE FRAUDULENT ACTIVITIES.

FOLLOWING THE LAST GENERAL ELECTION IN ILLINOIS, I WROTE EDITORIAL OPINIONS, CHALLENGING THE METHOD IN WHICH VOTERS WERE IDENTIFIED AND REGISTERED. I WAS CALLED A RACIST.

SINCE MOVING TO SAN MARCOS IN JANUARY OF THIS YEAR, I SERVED AS A HAYS COUNTY ELECTION JUDGE IN THE PRIMARIES AND SERVER AGAIN ON NOVEMBER 8. ELECTION JUDGE TRAINING AND HAYS COUNTY, DEMONSTRATES THAT LAWS AND ELECTION PROCEDURES IN TEXAS, ARE A BIG IMPROVEMENT FROM WHAT I SAW IN ILLINOIS.

MANY STATES HAVE TAKEN APPROPRIATE STEPS TO INCREASE THE SECURITY OF THEIR ELECTION IN THE WAKE OF THE REPORTS OF IRREGULARITIES. IMPROVEMENTS ARE STILL NEEDED.

TEXAS LAW CONCERNING MAIL-IN BALLOTS SHOULD BE FOR THE RESTRICTED, THE LAW ONLY FOR SPECIAL SITUATIONS.

AS AN OFFICER IN THE UNITED STATES AIR FORCE 20 YEARS, I USED ABSENTEE BALLOTS WHILE STATIONED OVERSEAS.

THERE IS VALIDITY IN THE PROCESS.

I'M DISTURBED HOWEVER, BY RECENT REPORTS FROM INDIVIDUALS AND CITIZENS GROUPS AND HAYS COUNTY, CONCERNED ABOUT THE ACCURACY AND VALIDITY OF HAYS COUNTY VOTING PROCESSES.HAT CONCERNS REVOLVE AROUND INCORRECT VOTER REGISTRATION TOTALS, ELECTION RESULTS NOT MATCHING ACTUAL VOTER ROLLS.

I PLAN TO DO FURTHER RESEARCH INTO THOSE REPORTS.

I HOPE YOU AND APPROPRIATE LOCAL AUTHORITIES WILL DO LIKEWISE. ELECTION INTEGRITY IS NOT A PERSON ISSUE IT AFFECTS ALL OF US.

IT THREATENS THE VALUES AND TRADITIONS OF OUR REPUBLIC AND DEMOCRACY OF AMERICA. THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION.

>> THANK YOU. I AGREE ELECTION DAY SHOULD BE HOLIDAY. AS THE MOST PATRIOTIC THING WE CAN DO TO SUPPORT GOOD AND FAIR ELECTIONS.

NEXT UP, WE HAVE MS. NANCY -- THANK YOU.

PRONUNCIATIONS ARE SO WEIRD ON LAST NAMES SO THANK YOU.

>> GOOD MORNING COMMISSIONERS AND JUDGE.

MY NAME IS NANCY AND I LIVED ON FM 1826 AND HAYS COUNTY.I REPRESENT MY FAMILY AND 35 HOUSEHOLDS IN THE BEAR CREEK ESTATES AREA. THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE IS HARD WORK. SECONDLY, I WANT TO ENSURE YOU KNOW OF OUR CONCERN OVER THE INCREASED VOLUME OF TRAFFIC ON 1826. AND THE NEED TO BEGIN NOW LOOKING AT SHORT-TERM AND LONG-TERM IMPROVEMENTS.

TO ADDRESS BOTH SAFETY AND MOBILITY.

ACCORDING TO 2045 RTP, FROM 2015, SEVEN YEARS AGO, IS ALSO IN YOUR TRANSPORTATION PLAN. MOST ROADWAYS WERE ESTIMATED TO BE AT ACCEPTABLE LEVELS OF OPERATION.

WITH THIS PORTION OF 1826, FROM THE TRAVIS COUNTY LINE WAS NOT.

IT WAS IN THE MOST CONGESTED, THAT WAS SEVEN YEARS AGO.

IN THE PAST SEVEN YEARS, RED HAS BECOME A MAJOR EAST-WEST THOROUGHFARE. WITH ADDITIONAL LABOR DEVELOPMENT AND UPCOMING HEB AND OVERALL, 290 CONSTRUCTION, THE VOLUME HAS AND WILL CONTINUE TO GROW.

IT IS NORMAL FOR WEEKDAY TRAFFIC TO BACK UP OVER MILE FROM THE INTERSECTION GOING EAST.

AND JUST LAST FRIDAY, MY HUSBAND, IT TOOK IN 20 MINUTES DRIVE THREE MILES FROM -- TO BEAR CREEK PAST DUE TOBACCO.

THAT WAS AN AVERAGE OF 8.8 MILES AN HOUR.

YOUR PLAN SAYS THERE MAY BE CASES WHERE KEY INTERSECTIONS ARE IMPROVED OR TURN LANES ARE ADDED TO INCREASE CAPACITY, INCREMENTALLY. BEFORE ULTIMATELY, THE LONG-TERM SOLUTIONS. I THINK WE ARE THE WORLD WE NEED RESOURCES IN THE SHORT TERM TO WORK WITH TXDOT TO IMPROVE INTERSECTION AT FM 1826.

TO REDUCE THIS BOTTLENECK AT PEAK TIMES.

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AND USE HIS INFLUENCE WITH TXDOT TO SPEED UP THE FEASIBILITY STUDY OF LONG-TERM IMPROVEMENTS TO FMO CONTROL.

WHILE CONSIDERING ENVIRONMENT, IMPACT AND ACCESS NEEDS OF THOSE WHO ARE PROPERTY OWNERS PAY THE FEASIBILITY STUDY WITH TEXT THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO BEGIN THE SUMMER BUT THEY ARE NOW SAYING IS MOVED TO THE FALL. THIS WILL IDENTIFY LONG-TERM SOLUTIONS. GIVEN HOW LONG IT TAKES FROM FEASIBILITY STUDY TO FUNDING TO ACTUAL CONSTRUCTION AND IMPLEMENTATION, WE NEED TO BEGIN NOW.

THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

NEXT UP MR. GLENN RICHARDS. >> COMMUNICATIONS MINIMUS GLENN VICTOR, I'VE BEEN A RESIDENT ALONG 1826 FOR THE PAST 22 YEARS. MY WIFE AND I HAVE MADE A HOME THERE. WE HAVE TODAY, ACCORDING TO TXDOT ENGINEERS ABOUT 30,000 CARS THAT TRAVEL THROUGH THE INTERSECTION 1826, AND -- AS NANCY MENTIONED, A FEW MINUTES AGO IT CAN BE EXTREMELY SLOW IF YOU'RE COMING FROM SOUTHWEST 45, IT CAN TAKE MANY MINUTES TO EVEN REACH 90 BROWNED ON 1826.

BUT THEN THERE'S THE OTHER SIDE OF THE COIN WHICH IS THE SPEEDERS, INVOLVES NOT ONLY AUTOMOBILES, INVOLVES HEMI-MATERIALS, TRUCKS, THAT TRAVEL AT HIGH RATES OF SPEED UP AND DOWN THE ROAD UP AND DOWN 1826.

FOR THOSE OF US THAT TRY TO GET OUT OF OUR DRIVEWAY AND SOME OF YOU HAVE BEEN IN MY DRIVEWAY AND SEEN THAT FIRSTHAND, YOU HAVE TO RECOGNIZE THAT THE RISKS ARE HIGH.

AND THE GOOD SAMARITANS TO LET US GET INTO THAT QUEUE ON 1826, ARE FEW AND FAR BETWEEN. 1826 ACCORDING TO WILLIAM SEYMOUR, TXDOT ENGINEER, IS THE THIRD BUSIEST ARTERY AFTER 35 AND 290. THAT IS A LOT OF CARS AND WE KNOW IT'S HAPPENING ON 12 AND 21 AND OTHER PLACES.

WE ARE A MINIMUM OF 5 TO 7 YEARS AWAY, ACCORDING TO WHAT HAS BEEN SHARED WITH TXDOT. AND FROM SUMMARY BEFORE WE EVEN REACH THE POINT OF A FEASIBILITY STUDY, WE NEED HELP NOW, THE SPEEDERS ON THE ROAD FOR THE GREAT DANGERS.

WE HAVE HAD DEATHS ALONG THAT ROAD.

AND FOR THOSE OF US WHO WANT TO SEE OUR FAMILIES VISIT US AND FRIENDS VISIT US, WE HAVE GREAT CONCERNS.

MY CONSTITUENCY WHICH IS FRIENDSHIP BRANCH, A NEIGHBORHOOD OF 112 PROPERTIES, AND RESIDENCES, HAVE GREAT CONCERNS. SOME OF THEM PARTICULARLY THOSE THAT ARE GETTING UP IN YEARS LIKE ME, HAVE A FEAR OF EVEN DRIVING OUT OTHER DRIVEWAY AND GETTING ON 1826.

THE SAFETY OF ALL, 1826 NEED TO QUICKLY ADD A RECENT TXDOT ENGINEERS RECOMMENDATION, TO PUT IN EIGHT DIGITAL RADAR SCIENCE FROM APPROXIMATELY REUNION RANCH TO 150.

LEASE COST $5000 EACH, WE NEED HELP WITH THE FUNDING.

TO GET THE SIGNS. IT WOULD ENHANCE ENFORCEMENT.

ANOTHER SCORE HAS STRUGGLED TRYING TO GET ENOUGH UNITS AND EQUIPMENT AND OFFICERS, TO PROVIDE ENFORCEMENT AND SUPERVISION OF OUR ROADS BUT ONE OF THE THINGS THE SIGNS CAN DO IS GIVE THEM THE DATA AND INFORMATION.

NOT OF WHO DRIVES THE ROAD, BUT WHAT TIMES OF DAY THOSE VEHICLES ARE TRAVELING AT HIGH RATE OF SPEED.

IT MAXIMIZES THE IMPACT OF AVAILABLE ENFORCEMENT.

>> THANK YOU WE APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS.

THERE IS A BIG DEAL AND I TOO WILL FOLLOW UP.

>> TO MAKE A COMMENT ON THAT. I'M HAPPY TO SHARE THAT WE HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH SOMEONE TO PAY FOR TO THE SIGNS AND THE REST ARE ALSO GOING TO BE PAID FOR.

>> THANK YOU. NEXT UP, MR. BOB ALEXANDER.

>> THANK YOU COMMISSIONERS. MY NAME IS BOB ALEXANDER.

I'M ALSO A RESIDENT OF 1826, ACTUALLY, I'M ON THE BOARD OF RIMROCK WHICH IS 674 HOMES. I WILL NOT REPEAT ALL THE THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN SAID. I DID WHAT YOU KNOW THE IMPORTANCE THAT OUR COMMUNITY HAS CONSIDERING THE AMOUNT OF

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IT'S NOT THE FAIR THING TO DO AND ACTION ON YOUR PART NEEDS TO BE DONE. THE INTERESTING THING IS IS ALSO ELECTION TIME BETWEEN NOW AND EARLY VOTING STARTED YESTERDAY THROUGH THE EIGHTH AND JUST BE AWARE IN THE COMMUNITY AND HOMEOWNERS AND VOTERS THAT --

>> THANK YOU FOR THAT. NEXT WE HAVE MR. BILL BROCK.

>> CONTINUE WITH THE THEME ON BILL BROCK CHAIR OF COALITION OF EIGHT NEIGHBORHOODS IN 1826. FIRST TIME YOU COME TOGETHER ON THIS. BUT WE, ARE VERY CONCERNED ABOUT WHAT'S HAPPENING AND LACK OF ATTENTION THAT WE HAVE SEEN.

ACCORDING TO 2021 HAYS COUNTY TRANSPORTATION PLAN, UPGRADING 1826 TO A FOUR-LANE HIGHWAY, IS ITEM NUMBER 55 ON THE ROADWAY TABLE. BY THE WAY THEIR 200 ITEMS ON THE TABLE. UNLIKE FOR OTHER PROJECTS NO ROADWAYS STUDY NO ROADWAY DESIGN OR PARTNERSHIP HAS BEEN STARTED FOR THIS VITAL ARTERY. SEVERAL QUESTIONABLE PROJECTS ARE BEING STUDIED BY YOUR TRANSPORTATION PEOPLE.

I'M REFERRING TO A NUMBER OF BYPASSES LIKE -- THE GARDEN HILL BYPASS, CREEK ROAD BYPASS, 150 -- THESE ARE ALL STUDIES THAT ARE GOING ON AND DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW YOU CAN BE THINKING ABOUT A BYPASS WHEN 1826 IS SO SERIOUSLY IMPACTED RIGHT NOW. WE JUST WANT YOU ALL TO START TAKING A LOOK AT 1826, REALLY SUPPORT WHAT THEY SAID IN TERMS OF THE PRESENT TIME WE HAVE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE FUNDED, FOUR PAIRS OF RADAR SPEED SIGNS, THESE ARE SHOWN TO SLOW DOWN TRAFFIC. TRAFFIC IS REALLY BAD THERE.

I DON'T KNOW IF YOU KNOW BUT THERE IS A CHILDREN'S YOUTH SPORTS ACADEMY THAT EXITS RIGHT ON THE ROAD.

AND SOME OF THE MOTHERS HAVE ALMOST BEEN HIT WITH THEIR CHILDREN.T IS REALLY IMPORTANT THAT YOU ALL TAKE A LOOK AT WHAT YOU CAN DO NOW. NOT TO MENTION IN THE FUTURE, I'M SORRY BUT WE ARE ALL GOING TO HAVE TO THINK ABOUT WIDENING THIS ROAD. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> NEXT UP WE HAVE MS. LAURA -- >> GOOD MORNING COMMISSIONERS, JUDGE MINIMUS LAURA, BEEN HERE SEVERAL TIMES.

IN JULY MEMBERS OF THE REST OF INVESTIGATIVE GROUP REPRESENT HAYS, DOZENS OF CITIZENS NOT ONLY CARE ABOUT THE ELECTIONS, THANK YOU, MR. BOYD. BUT HAVE WORKED DILIGENTLY TO PRESENT INFORMATION YOU CAN MAKE LIFE DECISIONS FROM YOUR SEAT. THIS GROUP OF CITIZENS CAME TOGETHER, AND REASON ABOUT WHAT TO DO WITH WHAT WE FOUND.

DO WE GO TO THE NEWSPAPERS? DO WE CALL THE SHERIFF? WHAT IS THE BEST WAY TO PROCEED WITH THE EVIDENCE THAT CLEARLY INSTRUCTS US TO RETURN TO SAFE AND FREE ELECTION PRACTICES? WE PRAYERFULLY CAME UP WITH THE FOLLOWING IDEA.

RATHER THAN CASTING ACCUSATIONS PUBLICLY AGAINST ANYONE ON THIS COURT, OR IN THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATION, HAVE PRESENTED EVIDENCE TO MANY OF YOU PRIVATELY.

AS WE ARE INSTRUCTED TO DO IN MATTHEW 18, WHICH SAYS QUOTE IF YOUR BROTHER OR SISTER SINS, GO AND POINT OF DEFAULT BETWEEN THE TWO OF YOU. IF THEY LISTEN TO YOU, YOU HAVE WON THEM OVER. IF THEY WILL NOT LISTEN, TAKE ONE OR TWO OTHERS ALONG SO EVERY MATTER MAY BE ESTABLISHED BY THE TESTIMONY OF TWO OR THREE WITNESSES.

IF THEY STILL REFUSE TO LISTEN, TELL IT TO THE CHURCH.

AND IF THEY REFUSE TO LISTEN TO THE CHURCH, TREAT THEM AS YOU WOULD A PAGAN OR TAX COLLECTOR. MATTHEW 18 15 THROUGH 17.

KEEP IN MIND THAT THIS DIRECTIVE APPLIES TO RELIEVERS OUR GROUP HAS SOUGHT TO ASK QUESTIONS AND UNDERSTAND THE DISCREPANCIES IN PRIVATE FIRST. SINCE WE BEGAN OFFERING FINDINGS AS FAR BACK AS JULY OF THIS YEAR WHICH WAS 17 WEEKS AGO, NO ONE ON THIS COURT OR IN THE COURTS AUXILIARY HAS DONE ANYTHING WITH THE DATA WE'VE SHARED.

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LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, ONE OR TWO IN AUGUST INVESTIGATING ELECTIONS NOW DRIVES MY RETIREMENT I AM NOT THE ONLY ONE AND I'M NOT GOING AWAY. I, WE, WILL BE HERE WAITING FOR ANSWERS TO QUESTIONS NO ONE SEEMS INTERESTED IN ANSWERING.

THE 2012 ELECTION IS ASTOUNDING AND YET, WHERE THE INDIGNATION OF THIS COURT. WHERE IS A CONCERN FOR YOUR VERY OWN ELECTION IN TWO WEEKS? I, WE, THE RESIDENTS OF HAYS COUNTY, COULD YOU MAKE WISE DECISIONS WE PRAY FOR YOU AND COMMUNICATE WITH YOU AND LONG TO WORK WITH YOU, NOT AGAINST YOU. WE CAN TRULY HELP FOR COMPREHENSIVE EXPLANATIONS EVEN IF IT SHOWS A BAD LIGHT ON OPERATIONAL MALLET MINISTRATION.

WE KNOW ELECTIONS IN HAYS COUNTY HAVE BEEN WELL ADMINISTERED. NO EVIDENCE ON THAT IS CLEAR.

WE SIMPLY ASK THAT YOU RESPOND RESPONSIBLY.

THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH AND A POINT OF CLARIFICATION FOR YOU I DO LISTEN AND I WAS ALSO THAT THE AUDIT AND HAVE AN AGENDA ITEM PUT IN AND IT WILL OPEN FIRST TODAY. NO, SECOND PG 26.

ORIGINAL SYNERGY 30 BUT IT IS LABELED G 26.

ELECTIONS WILL BE DISCUSSED TODAY PREDICT THAT MR. JORDAN

BUCKLEY. >> GOOD MORNING JUDGE AND COMMISSIONERS. THE FILM FESTIVAL HIGHLIGHT FROM APPOINTING SMILE MARTIN, SHARED HIS POETRY.

REFLECTIONS ON HIS TIME IN THE HAYS COUNTY JAIL.

HE SPENT 30 MONTHS THERE, TWO AND HALF YEARS BEFORE HE FINALLY GOT HIS DECOR. TO HAVE YEARS LOCKED UP IN THE COUNTY JAIL BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T HAVE ACCESS TO DECENT ATTORNEY AND HIS CASE IS COMMON. ONE MYSELF I'VE BEEN IN JAIL THREE TIMES OF NEVER CONVICTED OF ANY OF THE THINGS I WAS ACCUSED OF. ONE BECAUSE INCOMPETENCE WILL COME A SECOND TIME BECAUSE OF BAD ATTITUDE OF A COP.

I KNOW IT IS TO BE LOCKED IN JAIL EVEN THOUGH THERE'S NO GOOD REASON TO BE THERE. I THINK THE REALITY WITH HAYS COUNTY GEL IS THAT MOST PEOPLE THAT ARE THERE WON'T BE DEBILITATED BY BEING LOCKED IN A CAGE.

THE MAJORITY 90 MENTAL HEALTH SUPPORT REALLY NEED HELP WITH ADDICTION, AND IT ACCOUNTS FOR A GREAT MANY OF THE 600+ PEOPLE IN CUSTODY. WE NEED TO BE HONEST THERE IS A CRISIS IN HAYS COUNTY THAT SAN ANTONIO EXPRESS NEWS HAD A PRETTY ASTOUNDING EXPOSC) LAST WEEK ABOUT HOW WE ARE UNIQUE AND HOW MANY PEOPLE WE HAVE LOCKED UP NEEDLESSLY BECAUSE OUR COURTS AREN'T OPERATING AND BECAUSE WERE NOT PROVIDING THE THINGS WE NEED AND UNFORTUNATELY THIS IS BEEN EXACERBATED -- THE PRIVATE PRISON INDUSTRY WHICH IS OWNED BY COMMISSIONER SMITH CONSTITUENT AND DRIPPING SPRINGS. NOW WE ARE SUBJECTING PRIMARILY THE PRETRIAL POPULATION FOREIGN HEIFERS AWAY WITH THE ATTORNEYS AND FAMILIES CAN'T USUALLY VISIT THEM AND THIS IS HOW WE PRIVATIZE OUR TIME IN LIEU OF ACTUALLY MOVING FORWARD HASTILY ON THE PUBLIC DEFENDER OFFICE. ACTUALLY GIVE PEOPLE SUPPORT RATHER THAN LOCKING CAGES FOR THE WAY.

THIS IS HOW WE WANT TO TRY TO PUBLISH AND HOW WE WANT TO TREAT THOSE INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY.

REFUSE TO GIVE IT BLOOD TEST, PRODUCER VARIETY, NOT THE VEHICLE ON THE SIDE, AN INDIVIDUAL HAS A QUALITY PASSENGER SIDE AND ARRESTED FOR DWI, YOU LET GO THE SAME DAY AND COMMISSIONER JONES ALSO BEEN ACCUSED BY LONGTIME ELECTED REPUBLICAN CONSTABLE HAVING COMMITTED A FELONY.

AND TO ME IT'S QUITE AMAZING, BUT THESE ARE THE INDIVIDUALS WERE MAKING THE DECISIONS ON WHAT HAPPENS TO OUR PRETRIAL POPULATION. YOU THINK THERE MIGHT BE MORE SYMPATHY BUT MAYBE BECAUSE THEY KNOW THEY WILL BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE BY THE LAW DUE TO WEALTH, AND INFLUENCE, THEY ARE PEACHY KEEN WITH THIS PRIVATE CONTRACT THAT SUBJECT LOVED ONES OF PEOPLE WALKED UP TO HAVE TO TRAVEL FOUR AND HALF HOURS AWAY AND OF COURSE THOSE IMPOVERISHED HAVE A MUCH MORE DIFFICULT TIME TAKING OFF A DAY OF WORK OR SPIN AGAINST MY TRAVEL NINE HOURS TO SEE PEOPLE THAT CARE ABOUT.

IN THE BOTH THE PRIVATE PRISON CONTRACT WITH COMMISSIONER JONES AND SMITH, TO PARAPHRASE, HE SAID SOMETHING ALONG THE LINES OF THIS IS MORALLY WRONG BUT CHEAPER.

THIS IS MORE AFFORDABLE AND THEN YOU'LL PUT IT IN FAVOR OF IT. OUR TO SAY MOVE THIS ALONG AND START PRIORITIZING ACTUAL PUBLIC DEFENSE.

NEXT UP, MS. MADELEINE BROCK. CHRIS GOOD MORNING JUDGE AND

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WE HAVE A POT THING WHERE YOU GO BY POTS WE HAVE A STORAGE FACILITY, A SPORTS COMPLEX. I WATCHED THE TRAFFIC AND I'VE BEEN ALMOST HEAD-ON COLLISION, SIX TIMES.

IN THE TIME THAT I'VE LIVED THERE.

IN THE TEXACO SPEEDING BY COPY OF NOTHING OR 70 MILES AN HOUR ON A TWO LANE ROAD.ND I WOULD HOPE THAT THE SAFETY OF CONSTITUENTS BECOMES MORE IMPORTANT THING.

AND PUT IT OFF UNTIL YOU DO THESE BYPASSES WHICH EVENTUALLY WILL DUMP ONTO 1826. THANK YOU.

>> A QUICK QUESTION? >> YES.

>> I WILL BE UP THERE TODAY. WHAT TIME CAN I SEE ALL OF THIS

TRAFFIC? >> IF YOU WANT TO SELL THE TRAFFIC BETWEEN 3:00 P.M. AND THE END OF RUSH HOUR ABOUT 5:30 P.M. . THERE WILL BE WESTBOUND ON 1826 FROM 90 BROWN ROAD, I'VE SEEN IT GO ALL THE WAY TO THE FIRST ENTRANCE OF BEAR CREEK. AND THE SPEEDING ALL TIMES.

>> I WILL ABSOLUTELY BE THERE. THANK YOU SO MUCH.

NEXT UP, MS. LISA CROW. >> CASEY THE FIRST NAME AGAIN

JUDGE? >> LISA.

>> GOOD MORNING COURT. I AM A CONCERNED CITIZEN THE FEMININE EXPLAIN ANOMALIES REGARDING THE 2020 ELECTION AND MOST RECENTLY ALSO IN 2022 PRIMARIES.

FRIENDS AND FAMILY WHO BETTER RELATIONSHIPS, WE ARE DELUSIONAL CONSPIRACY THEORISTS.

THEY WILL NOT EVEN LISTEN TO WHAT WE HAVE FOUND BECAUSE THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA NEWS CHANNELS HAVE ALWAYS BEEN REPORTED.

IN 2012 BARACK OBAMA -- >> PLEASE.

>> QUIETLY SAID EXECUTIVE ORDER -- ALLOWING EVERY MAJOR NEWS NETWORK TO DISSEMINATE PROPAGANDA AND FALSE NARRATIVES. ONE WITH DISCERNMENT CAN SEE THIS. MY SON SERVED IN AFGHANISTAN AS TECHNICAL PSYCHOLOGICAL OPERATIONS SPECIALIST.

HE NEVER WATCHES THE NEWS. IN FACT, HE DOESN'T WATCH TELEVISION AT ALL. HE SAID THERE'S A REASON THEY CALL IT PROGRAMMING, AND A DIVE INTO THE CIA OPERATION MOCKINGBIRD WILL HELP OPEN YOUR EYES.

WHAT DOES THIS HAVE TO DO WITH ELECTIONS? EVERYTHING! BECAUSE OF MOCKINGBIRD MEDIUM LIQUIDATED THE NARRATIVE. LET US ALL REMEMBER THE MACHINES FAILED THE PUBLIC ACCURACY AND LOGIC TESTING RECENTLY. THEY WERE ALL REMOVED FROM PUBLIC VIEW AND TOLD EVERYTHING WAS FINE.

THEY FAILED. IF THEY FAILED IT CANNOT BE CERTIFIED. AND THEY MUST NOT BE USED.

BE AWARE THAT IN THE ELECTION MACHINE VENDORS HAVE HIRED HIGH-POWERED ATTORNEYS CORRECT THE SECRETARIES OF STATE ALL ACROSS OUR COUNTRY INCLUDING IN TEXAS, TO NOT ALLOW PEOPLE TO FORWARD EMAILS BETWEEN ELECTION ADMINISTRATORS AND THE MACHINE VENDORS. WHAT ARE THEY HIDING? IT BRINGS TO MIND THE SAYING, THE MEASURE OF A MAN'S CHARACTER IS NOT WHAT HE DOES WHEN HE THINKS NO ONE IS LOOKING, RATHER, WHAT HE DOES WHEN HE KNOWS NO ONE IS WATCHING. TRANSPARENCY OF OUR ELECTIONS STARTS BY GETTING RID OF THE SECRETLY MANIPULATED MACHINES, INCLUDING UPPER THE VOTER ROLLS.

OUR ELECTION ADMINISTRATOR JENNIFER -- STATED ON MULTIPLE OCCASIONS IS NOT HER JOB TO INVESTIGATE OUR ELECTIONS.

WE HAVE. SHE WAS MADE AWARE OF IN OUR FINDINGS, SHE DID NOTHING ABOUT.

A GLARING OMISSION IN RED FLAG FOR THE MARCH AND MAY 22 PRIMARIES AND RUN OFF IS THAT THERE ARE NO VOTER CHECK-IN TIMES IN THE PUBLIC DATABASES. ONLY DATES.

THIS IS CURRENTLY HAPPENING AT OUR POLLING LOCATIONS RIGHT NOW. ALSO APPARENTLY, NO ONE IS VERIFYING THE ELIGIBILITY OF ABSENTEE VOTERS EITHER.

I HAVE FOUND ISSUES WITH THIS OCTOBERS ABSENTEE MAIL-IN

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I ALSO FOUND THAT ONE MAN'S -- CANNOT BE VERIFIED AS EXISTING

IN TEXAS AND ALSO DIED IN 2021. >> THANK YOU MA'AM.

>> OUR ELECTIONS OFFICE TO HONOR THESE AND SEND APPLICATIONS. SENT OUT BALLOTS AND RECORDED THEM AS RECEIVED. WHY?

>> THANK YOU. NEXT UP, MR. DAN LYON.

>> THANK YOU, JUDGE BECCERA AND COMMISSIONERS.

I WOULD LIKE TO COMMEND THE LADY WHO JUST SPOKE AND ALSO, MR. BUCKLEY, I THINK THOSE ARE VERY GOOD SPEECHES.

ANYWAY, I WAS SCANNING THE SUNDAY EDITION OF THE SAN MARCOS DAILY RECORD AND CAME ACROSS THIS POLITICAL AD.

AND I'M SURE THAT BY NOW, BOTH CANDIDATES FOR COUNTY JUDGE HAS SEEN THIS AD. I WON'T GO INTO DETAIL BUT I WILL READ THE MAIN POINTS. IT SAYS QUOTE RUBEN BECERRA CAN'T BE TRUSTED UNQUOTE AND FURTHER STATES, QUOTE VOTE NO ON RUBEN BECERRA. I SUPPORT FREEDOM OF SPEECH IF YOU HAVE ENOUGH MONEY YOU COULD PUBLISH YOUR OPINIONS IN THE NEWSPAPER. AVON SUPPORT FREEDOM OF SPEECH NEGATIVELY. I WOULD SAY HOWEVER THAT IF YOU MUST RESORT TO NEGATIVE ADS, THAT MUST MEAN YOU DO NOT HAVE MUCH TO OFFER EACH CANDIDATE. I'VE KEPT TAXES LOW AND I'M A CONSERVATIVE. THAT NO LONGER CARRIES MUCH WEIGHT WHEN THE FACTS SAY OTHERWISE.

PEOPLE EVENTUALLY FIND THAT YOU ARE IN HIP POCKET OF DEVELOPERS AND ROAD CONSTRUCTION FIRMS AND ALSO, -- ANYWAY, LET'S GO TO DISBURSEMENTS. WE HAVE PRICHARD INDUSTRY SOUTHWEST LLC. $6785.85 FOR ONE MONTH OCTOBER 2022, JANITORIAL SERVICES. THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE. THE JAIL WAS ONLY A FRACTION OF THAT, SOMETHING IS WRONG THERE.

TEXAS AUTO REFINISHING AUTO BODY REPAIRS, 2017, DODGE CHARGER, WE GOT FOUR DISBURSEMENTS FOR $12,412.49, IF THE DEPUTIES OR WHOEVER WRECK THIS THEN, IF IT WAS WRECKED, JUST GET A MECHANICAL ORDER, LET IT LOOK LIKE WHATEVER. WE CAN'T AFFORD TO BE PAYING 12,000 FOR BODYWORK. IN, PRICHARD INDUSTRIES IN SOUTHWEST LLC OCTOBER 2022, JANITORIAL SERVICES COUNTYWIDE, $20,144.15, IS ALMOST HUNDRED 50,000 PER YEAR.

HALF ASSOCIATES INC. PROJECT MANAGEMENT, HAYS COUNTY / BOND PROGRAM MANAGEMENT, $53,215.19, OWNER FUEL TOLD VOTERS YOU GO TO YOUR BUDDIES IN ON MANAGING THESE PARKS.

YOU KNOW, $53,000. I DON'T THINK YOU TOLD HIM THAT.OU JUST TOLD HIM THE PRICE.

WHAT THE PARKS WERE GOING TO BE THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> THANK YOU NEXT UP WE HAVE AARON COWDREY.

THANK YOU FOR THE HELP AND PRONUNCIATION.

I APPRECIATE THAT. >> HELLO, MY NAME IS AARON COWDREY I'M HERE TO SUPPORT THE PUBLIC DEFENDERS OFFICE.

WE HAVE BEEN DOING THIS FOR THE PAST FIVE YEARS AND YOU STILL HAVEN'T SIGNED A CONTRACT EVEN AFTER A YEAR OF EARMARKING THE FUNDS. YOAFTER YELLOW DONE SITTING ON THE COURT, YOU GET TO GO HOME TO YOUR FAMILIES.

MEANWHILE, THEIR MOTHERS AND FATHERS WHO HAVEN'T SEEN THEIR CHILDREN IN YEARS. YOU CLAIM YOU WANT THIS PDO BUT IF YOU ACTUALLY CARED A SINGLE IOTA ABOUT THE VOTES, YOU WOULD GET IN HERE AND BRING THE PUBLIC DEFENDERS OFFICE TO FRUITION. THANK YOU.> THANK YOU.

NEXT UP ERIC MARTINEZ. >> HOWDY ALL.

I'M ADVOCATED FOR PUBLIC DEFENDERS OFFICE.

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WE MAY DISAGREE WITH HOW TO GET THERE, BUT WHAT I CAN TELL YOU THAT PROVIDING QUALITY INDIGENT DEFENSE AND A TRULY HOLISTIC MATTER, THAT ADDRESS THE CIVIL ISSUES AND CRIMINAL ISSUES, IS GOING TO BE GROUND BREAKING CHANGE IN THIS COMMUNITY.

WHEN YOU HAVE CHANGES IN ADMINISTRATION, HAVE ELECTIONS COMING UP, WHO KNOWS WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN, RIGHT? WHEN YOU'RE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE GOVERNMENT, YOU WANT THE JUST REPRESENTATION.OU WANT SOMEONE VISITING YOU IN COURT, YOU WANT SOMEONE WHO IS DOING EVERYTHING THEY ARE REQUIRED TO DO, I CAN TELL YOU WE ARE CONNECTED TO COMMUNITY MEMBERS, PEOPLE WE'VE CONNECTED TO IN OUR JAIL AND THEIR FAMILIES.

THOSE ATTORNEYS ARE NOT VISITING THEM AND THIS IS NOT AN INDICTMENT ON ALL COURT-APPOINTED ATTORNEYS.

THE FACT IS THAT IF WE DON'T A NAME IT'S A GOOD THING.

BUT I CAN TELL YOU, WE KNOW A LOT OF COURT-APPOINTED ATTORNEYS ON THIS WHEEL WHO ARE NOT DOING THE JOB THEY NEED TO DO. AND THAT'S GOING TO CHANGE.

WE GOING TO BRING OUT COURT WATCHING, WILL FILE GRIEVANCES AGAINST ATTORNEYS. WE GOING TO HOLD THE SYSTEM ACCOUNTABLE. AND WE NEED THIS NOW, NOT LATER. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU, SIR. NEXT UP, MISS

>> GOOD MORNING COMMISSIONERS. WE HAVE TO SAY, JUSTICE DELAYED IS JUSTICE DENIED. I'M WELL AWARE THAT THE PUSH FOR PDO IS NOT HALTED IN A THANK YOU FOR THE HARD WORK THAT YOU WILL HAVE PUT IN TO CONSIDER HOW TO MAKE IT A SYSTEM THAT REALISTICALLY RESPONDS TO THE NEEDS OF OUR INCARCERATED COMMUNITY MEMBERS. HOWEVER, THIS UNENDING, AND UNFATHOMABLE DEADLINE SEEMS TO INDICATE A FAILURE SOMEWHERE IN THE PROCESS. AS WE WAIT PATIENTLY ON THE OUTSIDE, FOR OVER FIVE YEARS AND WE'VE BEEN PUSHING FOR THIS, HUNDREDS OF COMMUNITY MEMBERS WAIT FROM BEHIND BARS FOR THE REPRESENTATION THAT CAN GRANT THEM FREEDOM, AND THE OPPORTUNITY TO RETURN TO THEIR LOVED ONES.

IT JUST IS BEING DOLED OUT EQUITABLY? IF POVERTY IS WHAT LIMITS SOMEONE'S FREEDOM.

IF WE ARE TO ERADICATE CRIME PAND EVIL AS THE REVEREND PRAYE OVER US EARLIER TODAY, MUST ERADICATE THE EVIL THAT HAPPENS IN OUR JAIL. THE HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE THAT HAVEN'T HEARD FROM COURT-APPOINTED ATTORNEYS IN MONTHS. AND ARE LEFT ABANDONED BY THE SYSTEM. THIS IS A CRIME AGAINST THOSE LOCKED UP AND THE FAMILIES WHO AWAIT THEM.E ASK NOW THEY TREAT THIS ISSUE WITH THE URGENCY DESERVES AND BRING ABOUT THIS MUCH-NEEDED OFFICE WITH HASTE.

THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU.

NEXT UP, MS. ORGANIZATION THAT HAS BEEN ADVOCATING FOR THE PUBLIC DEFENDERS OFFICE IN HAYS COUNTY FIVE YEARS NOW.

THE TIME FOR THE COFOUNDER TO GET A LAW DEGREE AND GET SWORN IN AS AN ATTORNEY. I'M EAGER TO SEE WHAT UPDATES YOU HAD TO PROVIDE GIVEN THE VENDOR WAS SELECTED NOW FIVE MONTHS AGO. EXACTLY 5 MONTHS AGO YESTERDAY.

I WAS WORKING ON THE PRESS RELEASE YESTERDAY FIXING IT FOR THE CURRENT ONE AND WE WOULD HAVE A FINALIZE CONTRACT BY AUGUST. WE ARE NOW AT THE END OF OCTOBER AND THAT HIS DREAM IS BEHIND SCHEDULE.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE REASONING IS FOR THE DELAYS, WERE NOT INVOLVED IN THE DISCUSSIONS, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S INTENTIONAL OR -- ASP TREAT THIS WITH URGENCY THAT IT DESERVES.

I DON'T WANT THIS TO TURN INTO ANOTHER -- ISSUE.

JUST BECAUSE IT'S ALWAYS BEEN THIS WAY DOES NOT MEAN THAT WE CAN DRAG OUR FEET OR ANY DAY LONGER THIS TAKES IS OKAY BECAUSE IT'S ALWAYS BEEN THIS WAY.

AS JORDAN MENTIONED, -- IS SPEAKING THIS WEEKEND AND HE SHOWED US HE WAS IN JAIL FOR 30 MONTHS, ONE POINT HE DIDN'T HEAR FROM HIS ATTORNEY FOR AN ENTIRE YEAR.

CAN YOU IMAGINE WHAT THAT'S LIKE TO BE IN THE JAIL, WITH NO END IN SIGHT, HAVING NO IDEA WHERE YOUR CASE IS STANDING? IS THE CURRENT REPRESENTATION OUR SYSTEM IS GUARANTEEING.

THIS GUARANTEEING OUR INDIGENT COMMUNITY MEMBERS AT THIS TIME AND WE CANNOT ACCEPT IT ANY LONGER.

IT IS IMPACTING OUR MOST VULNERABLE POPULATION AND IT IS UNACCEPTABLE. WE AGREE FOR THE TIME AND EFFORT DEDICATED TO THE PROJECT AND WE ASK THAT YOU STICK TO YOUR CURRENT DEADLINE. THANK YOU.

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>> NEXT UP MS. SARAH -- >> GOOD MORNING GEORGE, COMMISSIONERS. MANY MS. SARAH, I WORK AT THE VERY INSTITUTE OF JUSTICE WHICH THE PAST 60 YEARS, HAS BEEN AT THE FOREFRONT OF ADVANCING DATA AND RESEARCH AROUND DONATIONS CRIMINAL LEGAL SYSTEM. AS THE PROFOUND PRIVILEGE OF WORKING WITH COMMUNITY MEMBERS AND ELECTED OFFICIALS AND SMALL TO MIDSIZED COMMUNITIES AND RURAL COMMUNITIES ACROSS THE COUNTRY, TO REALLY EXAMINE THE LOCAL CRIMINAL LEGAL SYSTEMS AND PRESSURE COMMON SENSE SOLUTIONS.

THE PAST YEARS WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH COMMISSIONERS AS WELL AS COMMUNITY ADVOCATES, JUDGE BECCERA, AND THE COMMUNITY CHARLOTTE SOME OF THE POINTS IN THE HAYS COUNTY GEL.

AS OF LAST WEEK, THEY ARE MORE THAN 600 PEOPLE IN THE HAYS COUNTY GEL. 83 PERCENT OF WHOM ARE THERE PRETRIAL. THAT IS NEARLY 500 PEOPLE WHO REALLY, WE THINK ABOUT MILES, THE PERSON WHO SAT IN THE HAYS COUNTY GEL FOR THREE MONTHS WHEN A YEAR WITHOUT SEEING AN ATTORNEY, THINKING ABOUT 500 OF THOSE PEOPLE, RIGHT? WHO ARE SITTING, WAITING, THEIR FREEDOM HANGS IN THE BALANCE BASED ON WHETHER OR NOT THEY'RE GOING TO BE GIVEN ACCESS TO ADEQUATE JEALOUS INEFFECTIVE COUNSEL.

I'M JUST HERE TODAY TO SUPPORT THE PASSING OF THE PUBLIC DEFENDERS OFFICE CONTRACT MOVING FORWARD WITH ALL DUE EXPEDIENCY. WE KNOW THAT ACROSS THE COUNTRY, I HOLISTIC PUBLIC DEFENDERS OFFICE LIKE NEIGHBOR DEFENDER SERVICES, IS THE GOLD STANDARD AND HAYES COUNTY IS, CAN BE A LEADER ALONG WITH MANY OTHER TEXAS COUNTIES THERE ESTABLISHING OFFICES IN. WE WANT TO SUPPORT THE EFFORT AND ASK THAT YOU MOVE THIS COUNTRY FORWARD WITH ALL DUE EXPEDIENCY SO THAT FOLKS ARE SITTING THERE AND WAITING FOR THEIR FAIR SHAKE IN THE COURTROOM, JUST AS ANYBODY WHO MIGHT UNFORTUNATELY, GOD FORBID, FIND THEMSELVES ON THE WORST DAY OF HER LIFE, SITTING IN A COURTROOM, WOULD HOPE THEY WOULD HAVE ACCESS TO A LAWYER WHO CAN REALLY SHOW UP FOR THEM. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR ALL OF YOUR EFFORT AND LEADERSHIP ON THE SAND I WANT TO READ HER ALSO THAT VERA AS A NATIONAL ORGANIZATION THAT DOES RESEARCH AND DATA ANALYSIS, WE ARE HERE IS A CONTINUED PARTNER, AS YOU MOVE FORWARD IN THE PUBLIC DEFENDERS OFFICE AND AFTERWARD, TO CONTINUE MAKE HAYS COUNTY, THE FASTEST GROWING AS YOU ALL KNOW, COUNTY REGION IN THE COUNTY, A PLACE WHERE PEOPLE WANT TO MOVE WHERE THEY CAN FEEL SAFE, THEY CAN FEEL LIKE THEY HAVE A FEAR PRETRIAL AND CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> THANK YOU.

NEXT, IS REALLY DIFFICULT TO REACH I'LL JUST SAY JASMINE G.

IT COULD BE GARRETT. IT'S CHICKEN SCRATCH.

[LAUGHTER] >> I APOLOGIZE.

GOOD MORNING COUNTY COMMISSIONERS AND JUDGE, AND MANY MS. JASMINE AND I WORK AT THE VERY INSTITUTE OF JUSTICE WHERE WORK IN SMALL CITIES AND RURAL COMMUNITIES TO TRY ADDRESS ISSUES IN THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM WE BEEN WORKING HAYS COUNTY MORE THAN THREE YEARS AND HAVE BEEN IN HAYS COUNTY THE PAST FIVE DAYS TO ATTEND A -- FESTIVAL.

IT'S BEEN WONDERFUL BEING AGAIN TO SEE MUCH OF THE COMMUNITY THAT HAYS COUNTY HAS. WE BEEN ABLE TO HAVE WONDERFUL CONVERSATIONS WITH SO MANY FOLKS ARE REALLY ENTHUSIASTIC ABOUT THE POSITIVE IMPACT OF THE PUBLIC DEFENDERS OFFICE THAT WILL HAVE ON THE COMMUNITY.

AS I'M SURE, MANY OF YOU KNOW THE PUBLIC DEFENDERS OFFICES ARE IMPORTANT FOR QUALITY AND EFFECTIVE DEFENSE FOR THOSE WHO NEED IT. ALSO PARTICULARLY IMPORTANT FOR THOSE SENTENCES FOR FULFILLING THE MENTAL HEALTH CRISIS AND ADDICTION. BECAUSE OF THE DEDICATED SOCIAL WORK AND RELEVANT EXPERIENCE OF PUBLIC DEFENDERS OFFICES.

WE ARE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THIS INCREDIBLE WORK BEING DONE BY THE COUNTY AND NEIGHBOR DEFENDER SERVICES.

TO GET THIS CONTRACT ACROSS THE FINISH LINE AND THE PUBLIC DEFENDERS OFFICE TO THE COUNTY. WE ARE EXCITED TO LIFT UP THE WORK THAT HAYS COUNTY IS DOING AS A MODEL FOR OTHER COUNTIES ACROSS THE COUNTRY. WE ARE LOOKING FORWARD TO HEARING THE UPDATE ON THE CONTRACT AND HOPE TO SEE THE PROCESS MOVE FORWARD EXPEDIENTLY AS POSSIBLE BECAUSE THE FOLKS IN HAYS COUNTY DESERVE TO HAVE ACCESS TO QUALITY DEFENSE. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. NEXT UP MS. KAREN MUNOZ.

>> GOOD MORNING JUDGE AND COMMISSIONERS.

I'M ALSO HERE AGAIN, TO SUPPORT THE PUBLIC DEFENDERS OFFICE.

TO SUPPORT EVERYTHING THAT HAS BEEN SAID BEFORE.

AM THE COFOUNDER AND I BROUGHT THIS SHIRT MADE IN 2018.

MAYBE -- HARD TO KNOW WHEN BUT TOASTER THE CAMPAIGN TO PUSH

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AGAIN, IT'S REALLY HARD TO FIGURE OUT WHAT ELSE TO SAY BECAUSE EVERYTHING HAS BEEN SAID.

I THINK IS REALLY IMPORTANT TO KNOW THAT WE STARTED THIS CAMPAIGN SO LONG AGO, NOW HAVE THIS -- IT'S BEEN THAT LONG.

I JUST WANT TO SAY WENT TO LAW SCHOOL FOR TWO REASONS.

ONE BECAUSE WERE FIGHTING STEP DEPORTATION OF RODRIGUEZ AND I WAS IN A COURTROOM HERE. I WANTED THE JUDGE THAT THE JOSEPH OF THE DEFENSE ATTORNEY SAYS COUNSELOR DOES YOUR CLIENT UNDERSTAND SHE CAN BE DEPARTED FOR THIS? HE TURNS AROUND AND SAYS YOU UNDERSTAND YOU CAN BE DEPORTED FOR THIS, RIGHT? THEN HE LOOKS AT THE JUDGE AND SAID YES JUDGE, MY CLIENT UNDERSTANDS.

THAT TO ME SITTING THE COURTROOM NEXT TO HER MOM, IT WAS CLEAR SHE DIDN'T UNDERSTAND AND IF ANY BEFALL THE CAMPAIGN, SHE'D INTENSE MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES.

IT WAS CLEAR THAT SHE DIDN'T UNDERSTAND REALLY THAT SHE COULD BE DEPORTED FOR THE OFFENSE AND WERE TALKING ABOUT SIMPLE ASSAULT THE JUDGE'S ACTUALLY GIVE HER TIME SERVED.

SINCE THEN WE'VE INSTITUTED -- ANOTHER WOULD MAKE CHANGES AND I APPRECIATE THAT. THE THING THAT DROVE ME TO LAW SCHOOL WAS NOT DISCOUNTED BUT MY LITTLE BROTHER HAD BEEN REPRESENTED BY SEVERAL COURT-APPOINTED ATTORNEYS CURRENTLY SERVING A FOUR-YEAR SENSE AND SANITARY AND ONE OF THEM SAID HE WILL MOVE YOUR CASE FASTER, I CHARGE $20,000.

THAT IS OBVIOUSLY ILLEGAL BUT WE DON'T KNOW THOSE CONVERSATIONS HAPPEN UNLESS SOMEONE HAPPENED TO HAVE A LOVED ONE IN LAW SCHOOL OR SOMETHING TO KNOW THAT IT IS ILLEGAL. IN DISCOUNTED THINGS LIKE THAT TO HAPPEN. THERE ARE SITUATIONS WHERE PEOPLE HAVE TO SEND THEIR ATTORNEY CERTIFIED LETTER JUST TO TRY AND GET A RESPONSE. THE ATTORNEY STILL WON'T RESPOND. I WANTED TO SHARE AGAIN THINGS ARE MORE NOVEL BUT FROM -- WE HAVE TO COME UP AND TALK ABOUT HE SAID TO -- IT'S IMPORTANT TO MENTION THIS QUOTE.

AT THE END OF THE DAY PORTER PUT AN ATTORNEY HAS AN OBLIGATION TO THE CLIENT BUT TO THE COURT WHAT THEY DO IS TRY TO CONVINCE YOU TO TAKE A PLEA DEAL BECAUSE IS IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE COURT AND OBVIOUSLY THE QUICKER YOU CLOSE A CASE THE QUICKER YOU GET PAID SINCE YOU DON'T GET PAID UNTIL AFTER IN THE COURT-APPOINTED SYSTEM.

ALSO, EVERYTHING WHILE WE ARE WAITING FOR THIS, THAT IS NOT LAMERS BECAUSE WE'RE STILL TRANSFERRING PEOPLE TO DIRE CONDITIONS IN OTHER COUNTIES ALL OVER THE PLACE.

AND I READ THE HASKELL COUNTY CONTRACT AND IT SAYS, THERE IS A PROVISION THAT SAYS HASKELL IS SUPPOSED TO PROVIDE REAL VISITATION BETWEEN ATTORNEYS AND CLIENTS ARE REFERRED THAT'S NOT HAPPENING. PEOPLE GET THERE THEY DON'T KNOW IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE A THING.

IT IS A LEGAL LIABILITY FOR THE COUNTY.

I THINK IT'S IN THE CONTRACT. THAT GOES BEYOND ALL THAT HAS ALREADY BEEN TALKED ABOUT. DON'T DELAY, THANKS.

>> THANK YOU. OUR LAST REGARD TO PUBLIC COMMENT IS ERICA -- I WAS SO CLOSE!

A EFFORT. >> THANK YOU COMMISSIONERS AND JUDGE, FOR YOUR ME TAKING MANY MS. ERICA AND I'M SPEAKING IN SUPPORT OF THE HAYS COUNTY PUBLIC DEFENDERS OFFICE.

I'M A LICENSED CALIFORNIA ATTORNEY, MEMBER OF THE NATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF PUBLIC DEFENDERS AND RECENTLY, PAST THE TEXAS BAR EXAM IN JULY SO I'LL BE GETTING SWORN IN ANYTIME. THE ONLY REASON I MOVED HERE WAS TO HAVE A HOME, TO BUILD MY LEGACY HERE IN HAYS COUNTY, AND SAN MARCOS IN PARTICULAR. MEZ WAS BORN AND RAISED IN AUSTIN, NOW HERE IN HAYS COUNTY.

WE WANT TO HAVE A LEGACY HERE WHERE WE'RE STANDING FOR OUR COMMUNITY, FIGHTING FOR THE PEOPLE'S RIGHTS, AND REPRESENTED PEOPLE, INDIGENT PEOPLE WHO DESERVE THE REPRESENTATION. I BECAME A PUBLIC DEFENDER IN CALIFORNIA BECAUSE WHEN I WAS IN LAW SCHOOL I SAW A LOT OF INJUSTICES. WORKED IN SMALL AND BIG COUNTIES.

SAN FRANCISCO AND I WAS A PUBLIC DEFENDER IN -- THREE AND HALF YEARS. I SO SO MUCH INJUSTICES, GHOST WAS OUT OF THE OFFICE, THE MISSION OF PUBLIC DEFENDERS OFFICE IS THE SAME. AND THAT'S TO HELP INDIGENT PEOPLE IN ANY WAY, SHAPE OR FORM AND HOLISTIC MANNER THAT WILL GIVE THEM THAT, THAT WILL FIGHT FOR THE CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS AND AS A PUBLIC DEFENDER BEEN TO NUMEROUS JURY TRIALS.

I HAVE FOUGHT THE ISSUES, FOR CONSTITUTIONAL ISSUES ON APPEAL, I HAVE ASSISTED FAMILIES GET REUNITED.

I HAVE HELPED CLIENTS GET INTO REHAB.

I BILLED VETERANS GET INTO VETERANS COURT AND GET SERVICES FROM THE VA THAT THEY NEED. I WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO DO THIS LET MY TEAM A PUBLIC DEFENDERS IN MY FORMAL PUBLIC DEFENDER OFFICE. I WOULD CALL MY COLLEAGUES AT

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THAT SUPPORT IS INVALUABLE. IT IS SOMETHING THAT HELPED ME REPRESENT MY CLIENT TO THE BEST WAY THAT I CAN.

AND SO, AS IN HIS SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF THE PUBLIC DEFENDERS OFFICE IN HAYS COUNTY, I WANT TO LET YOU ALL KNOW THAT BEING A PUBLIC DEFENDER IS NOT A LAST-MINUTE RESORT.

IT IS NOT SOMETHING THAT IS SEEN AS A BOTTOM OF THE BARREL, IT'S A DREAM JOB, A CAREER, SOMETHING I AM PASSIONATE ABOUT THAT I'M EXCITED ABOUT, THAT I WANT TO HELP BUILD THIS COMMUNITY. TO SHOW A LEGACY THAT YES, THERE IS HOPE, THERE IS THAT IN THIS VERY DARK SYSTEM.

AND SO, URGE THE COUNTY TO OFFICIALLY START THIS PUBLIC DEFENDERS OFFICE, ONE, I NEED A JOB.

AND NUMBER TWO! IT'S NOT JUST ANY JOB, I WILL MY DREAM JOB AND I WANT TO HEAR IN HAYS COUNTY AS THE PUBLIC DEFENDERS OFFICE. I WANT TO START MY DREAM JOB IN MY HOME, MY COMMUNITY WHERE I WILL BE BUILDING MY COMMUNITY

AND MY FAMILY, THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU.

THAT CONCLUDES PUBLIC COMMENTS PORTION.

>> I HAVE TWO WRITTEN COMMENTS. >> THIS IS ON MY MIND AND IN MY HEART AND I WANT TO SAY IT, WE ARE DIFFERENT SPACES AND DIFFERENT CAPACITIES. I SEE YOU ALL WEATHERBY ELECTION INTEGRITY OR SPEAKING FOR THE VULNERABLE.

I WILL STATE THIS WAY, THANK YOU FOR SPEAKING UP FOR THE MOST VULNERABLE AMONG US. I THANK YOU ALL FOR THAT GENERALLY. DOCTOR CARDENAS.

>> MY FIRST COMMENT IS FROM VA WILDER.

HE SAYS, I LIKE TO JUST THE COURT ON THE SUBJECT OF POLL WATCHES. WOULD HAVE PREFERRED TO JUST ONE PERSON, BUT AS YOU CAN HEAR THIS EMAIL, CURRENTLY SERVING AS A POLL WATCHER. CONTRARY TO THE GAS CLIP CHATTER OF THOSE WHO DECRY OUR RIGHT TO WATCH THE VOTING PROCESS, ONE THAT WE PAY FOR WITH OUR TAX DOLLARS, POLL WATCHERS ARE THERE TO OBSERVE, NOTE AND QUARTERLY REPORT ANY IRREGULARITIES THAT ARE WITNESSED AT VOTING LOCATIONS.

WHO DO NOT ENGAGE WITH VOTERS AND ONLY ENGAGE WITH POLL JUDGES, COURT CLERKS IF ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY.

WE ARE NOT LOOKING FOR PROBLEMS, ON THE CONTRARY, A PERFECT POLL MARCHING DAY IS WHEN THERE ARE NO ISSUES TO REPORT. WE ADHERE TO A STRICT SET OF RULES PUT FORTH BY THE SECRETARY OF STATES OFFICE.

IN ADDITION, WE COMPLETED ONLINE TRAINING IN PERSON TRAINING, AND RECEIVED CERTIFICATIONS FROM THE SECRETARY OF STATE. ONE MIGHT SAY IT IS MORE DIFFICULT TO BE A POLL WATCHER THAN TO VOTE.

ALTHOUGH POLL WATCHES MAY BE APPOINTED BY COUNTY POLITICAL PARTIES. WE STRIVE TO BE NONPARTISAN.

YOUR VOTE IS YOUR VOICE AND BY OBSERVING THE VOTING PROCESS, WE TRY TO ENSURE VOICES HEARD. IN CLOSING UNTIL THE PUBLIC TO IGNORE THE SKY IS FALLING RABBLE ROUSING RHETORIC AND KNOW THAT VOLUNTEERS WHO SERVICE POLL WATCHERS, ARE THERE TO HELP ENSURE THAT ALL LAWS AND STATUTES ARE PROPERLY FOLLOWED IN THE VOTING PROCESS YOUR POLLING LOCATIONS EFFICIENT, TRANSPARENT AND ACCURATE.

WE WELCOME EVERYONE TO BE PART OF THIS VOLUNTEER EFFORT.

IT IS A GREAT CIVICS LESSON AND A VALUABLE CONTRIBUTION TO YOUR COMMUNITY. THE SECOND IS FROM AL KEMP, COMMENTING ON -- PUBLIC DEFENDERS ARE OVERLOADED WITH CASES AND HAVE SENT A LACK OF RESOURCES AND CARE IN MOST CASES THAT THE EXPECTATION OF ADEQUATE THEIR DEFENSE SEEMS IMPOSSIBLE. IT SEEMS THE MAJORITY OF THE PUBLIC DEFENDERS DON'T EVEN HAVE THE INTENTIONS OF ACTUALLY DEFENDING YOU A WAY TO RESOLVE CASES THAT ARE FAIR AND JUST.

THEY ONLY PUSH PLEA DEALS FOR THE STATE, MOST OF WHICH ARE CRUEL AND UNUSUAL. THEY PICK AND CHOOSE WHO THEY WANT TO FIGHT FOR AND THE REST ARE LEFT WITH BELOW THE BAR STANDARD COUNSEL. THEY REALLY VISIT OR CONSULT WITH THE DEFENDANT VIA MAIL, PHONE, ZOOM OR EMAIL.

ABOUT YOUR CASE AT ALL, FOR MOST DEFENDANTS, EVERY COURT DATE IS RESET. UNTIL THE DEFENDANT EITHER GIVES UP AND PLEASE OUT OR YOU ARE AUTOMATICALLY FORCED INTO TRIAL. THERE IS NO PERIMETER HEARING OR ACTUAL PRETRIAL WHATSOEVER. MOST DEFENDANTS HAVE NEVER EVEN SEEN THE COURTROOM OR BEEN BEFORE JUDGE.

COURT DATES ARE AS FOLLOWS, GO TO COURT AROUND 7:53 AM, SAY IN A HOLDING CELL FOR HOURS. JUST TO BE RESET WITHOUT NOTICE

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IF YOU'RE LUCKY, YOUR LAWYER MIGHT COME DOWN TO VISIT YOU, BUT NO REAL STEPS ARE TAKEN TO PROGRESS THE FURTHERANCE OF RESOLVING YOUR CASE MATTER. THEN YOU'RE SET OFF FOR MONTHS AT A TIME. MANY DEFENDANTS HAVE NOT SEEN OR HEARD FROM THE PUBLIC DEFENDER FOR THREE OR MORE MONTHS, SOME SIX MONTHS TO A YEAR AND THIS IS NOT THE CASE FOR EVERY PUBLIC DEFENDER, BUT IT IS FOR MOST DEFENDANTS PRETRIAL DETAINEES IN HAYS COUNTY JAIL.

WITH SUCH A LACK OF RESOURCES AND OVERLOAD OF CASES, IT DOES NOT FALL ENTIRELY ON THE POLY DEFENDERS IF THE SYSTEM AS A WHOLE BUT HOLD SOME LEVEL OF RESPONSIBILITY IN THE MATTER.

-- DEVON ANTHONY 23-YEAR-OLD YOUNG MAN AND FIRST OFFENDER WITH AN AGGRAVATED ROBBERY CHARGE, HAS NOT SEEN OR HEARD FROM HIS ATTORNEY FOR GOING ON SIX MONTHS BEFORE HIS LAST COURT DATE. AT HIS COURT DATE, THE ATTORNEY TOLD HIM THE BEST HE CAN DO IS TAKE THE PROSECUTORS PLEA DEAL OF A 40 YEAR PRISON SENTENCE OR GO TO TRIAL AND RISK A LIFE SENTENCE. THIS THE FIRST TIME OFFENDER THAT DOES NOT CLAIM INNOCENCE, ONLY PRAYING FOR MORE REASONABLE LEVEL OF PUNISHMENT FOR CIRCUMSTANCE AND CHARGE BY PROBATION FOR 56 YEAR SENTENCE. DANTE MILLER 24-YEAR-OLD ALSO NOT CLAIM INNOCENCE, A CLAIM OF SELF-DEFENSE FOR HIS CHARGE, HAS BEEN INCARCERATED WITHIN TWO YEARS TRYING TO TAKE A PLEA DEAL OF 20 TO 30 YEARS. THE PROSECUTORS DETERMINED TO TAKE HIM TO TRIAL AND TRY TO GIVE ME LIFE WITHOUT PAROLE, PRESENT TENSE AND HIS ATTORNEY WILL NOT EVEN ENTERTAIN THE IDEA OF WORKING ON A DEAL FOR HIM TO RESOLVE HIS CASE AS HE'S BEEN TRYING TO DO. ORTIZ HAS BEEN INCARCERATED MORE THAN TWO YEARS. ON THE CHARGE AND IS CONSTANTLY RESET FOR MONTHS AT A TIME AND HAS NO COMMUNICATION WITH HIS

PUBLIC DEFENDER WHATSOEVER. >> IN THE LETTER THERE SAYING THAT PUBLIC DEFENDERS INTENDED TO SAY COURT APPOINTED ATTORNEY, JUST AS A CLARIFICATION.

WE DON'T HAVE THAT AT THIS TIME.

BUT I WILL SAY, ARE DONE WITH THOSE WRITTEN?

>> YES. >> AS HER MOTHER, WILL GO TO OUR PROCLAMATIONS AND STRAIGHT TO K4.

>> JUDGE ON F3 THEY WILL NOT BE HERE THEY WENT TO THE WRONG

LOCATION. >> DID YOU SAY F3?

>> YES THE 4H AWARD. I LIKE TO PULL THAT AND PUT ON

[F1. Adopt a Proclamation recognizing Kaare & Brenda Remme as Community Resource of the Year. BECERRA]

THE AGENDA FOR NEXT WEEK. >> YOU GOT IT.

F1, F2, K4. PLEASE OPEN F1.

>> ADOPT A PROCLAMATION RECOGNIZING KAARE & BRENDA REMME AS COMMUNITY RESOURCE OF THE YEAR.

>> SO MOVED. >> SECOND.

>> MOTION AND SECOND. ANYONE INTERESTED IN SPEAKING? WHEREAS THEY PLEDGE SUBSTANTIAL SUPPORT TO THE HAYS COUNTY PROTECTIVE BOARD EACH YEAR, FOR THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS.

AND WHERE IS IN DECEMBER 2020, SO THE OPENING OF THE RAINBOW ROOM A JOINT PROJECT MADE POSSIBLE BY THE GENEROSITY OF THE COURT.AND WHEREAS THE ROOM HAS BEEN IMPOSSIBLE TO IMMEDIATELY HELP ABUSED AND NEGLECTED CHILDREN AND CAREGIVERS NEED TO COMFORT THE CHILDREN AND MAKE THEIR NEW HOME SAFE. WHEREAS BRENDA AND CARA RAMEY WERE NOMINATED FOR THE AWARD OF OUTSTANDING COMMUNITY RESOURCE BY THE HAYS COUNTY CHILD PROTECTIVE BOARD, NOR IS THE REGIONAL CHILD PROTECTIVE BOARD GRANTED THE OUTSTANDING COMMUNITY RESOURCE AWARD TO BRENDA AND CARA RAMEY AND NOMINATED THEM FOR THE STATE OF TEXAS COUNSEL CHILD WELFARE BOARD OUTSTANDING COMMUNITY RESOURCE AWARD, WHEREAS THE TEXAS COUNSEL OF CHILD WELFARE GRANTED THE STATE OUTSTANDING COMMUNITY RESOURCE AWARD TO BRENDA AND CARA RAMEY.

NOW THEREFORE LET IT BE KNOWN, THE HAYS COUNTY COMMISSIONERS DOES HEREBY PROCLAIM THEY HAVE DULY RECOGNIZED THE CONTRIBUTIONS OF BRENDA AND CARA RAMEY TO THE EXTRAORDINARY AND EXEMPLARY, DOCTOR THIS 25TH DAY OF OCTOBER 2022.

>> THAT IS BEAUTIFUL. BEFORE WE VOTE, MS. BROWN WOULD LIKE TO SAY A FEW WORDS?R ANYONE ELSE?

[INAUDIBLE] >> APPROACHED THE PODIUM SO EVERYONE IN THE WORLD CAN HEAR YOU.

>> PRESIDENT OF LOCAL CHILD PROTECTIVE BOARD.

ALSO PRESIDENT OF REGIONAL AND STATE EXECUTIVE BOARD.

THE OWNER PRESENT THIS AWARD AT THE READING OF THE NOMINATION FORM THAT WILL PASS BY LOCAL AND STATE BOARD AND I'M VERY

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BEAUTIFUL. >> THANK YOU.

PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

>> NOW, IF YOU COULD COME UP AND TAKE A PICTURE.

IF YOU LIKE TO SAY A FEW WORDS FIRST TOTALLY OKAY.

NO? OKAY COME ON UP FOR PICTURE THEN. ALL THE WAY UP HERE.

[F2. Adopt a Proclamation recognizing Derrell and Mary Moore as Foster Parents of the Year. BECERRA]

>> F2, ADOPT A PROCLAMATION RECOGNIZING DERRELL AND MARY MOORE AS FOSTER PARENTS OF THE YEAR.

>> SO MOVED. >> SECOND.

>> PROCLAMATION RECOGNIZING FORCE TO PERSEVERE.

THERE BEEN FOSTER PARENTS OVER 30 YEARS AND WHEREAS THEY SPECIALIZE IN CARING FOR CHILDREN WITH SEVERE MEDICAL AND DEVELOP MENTAL ISSUES AND NEEDS.HEREAS THEY ARE AN INTEGRAL PART OF CARING FOR SOME OF THE STATES MOST VULNERABLE CHILDREN. WHEREAS THEY ARE NOT JUST EXCELLENT CAREGIVERS, BUT A VALUABLE RESOURCE TO CHILD PROTECTIVE SERVICE CASEWORKERS IN AIDING THE UNDERSTANDING OF CHILDREN'S MEDICAL AND DEVELOP MENTAL NEEDS ON A DAY-TO-DAY BASIS. WHEREAS THEY HAVE ASSISTED IN KEEPING CHILDREN CONNECT TO THEIR PARENTS WHILE IN FOSTER CARE AND RETURNING THEM HOME AND FAMILIES ARE PREPARED TO CARE FOR THEM. WHEREAS THEY WERE NOMINATED FOR THE AWARD FOR OUTSTANDING FOSTER PARENTS OF THE YEAR, BY THE HAYS COUNTY CHILD PROTECTIVE BOARD, WHEREAS THE REGIONAL CHILD PROTECTIVE BOARD GRANTED THEM THE FOSTER PARENTS OF THE YEAR AWARD AND NOMINATED HIM FOR THE TEXAS COUNSEL CHILD WELFARE BOARD AWARD FOR FIRST APPEARANCE OF THE YEAR AND WHEREAS ON OCTOBER 14, 2022, THE STATE OF TEXAS COUNSEL ON CHILD WELFARE BOARD GRANTED THEM THE FOSTER PARENT OF THE YEAR AWARD. NOW THEREFORE LET IT BE KNOWN, THE HAYS COUNTY COMMISSIONERS COURT IS HONORED TO RECOGNIZE DARRELL AND MARY MOORE AS FOSTER PARENTS OF THE YEAR BY THE STATE OF TEXAS COUNSEL CHILD WELFARE BOARD, FOR THEIR COMMITMENT TO FOSTERING CHILDREN, DOCTOR THIS 25TH DAY

OF OCTOBER 2022. >> BEAUTIFUL, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

>> ANYONE TO SPEAK ON THIS? IT IS SUCH A WONDERFUL THING TO HIGHLIGHT THE GOOD IN OUR COMMUNITY, SUCH A GIFT FOR ME

TO BE PART OF THAT, THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU.

>> THE FAMILIES AT THE DOCTOR'S OFFICE THIS MORNING WITH TWO OF THEIR CHILDREN. I SPOKE TO THEM BUT THEY SAID THEY COULD NOT MAKE IT. PRESENTING THIS AWARD THIS YEAR, WHAT THEY HAD DONE AND HAYS COUNTY HAD TWO WINNERS THIS YEAR AT A SIX DIFFERENT CATEGORIES AND THAT IS THE FIRST TIME IT'S HAPPENED. ANYBODY ON THE BOARD IS AWARE OF IN THE STATE. I AM PROUD OF WHAT OUR PEOPLE ARE DOING AND THE CASEWORKERS AND EVERYTHING THAT WORK WITH THESE KIDS. AND FOSTER PARENTS WHO TAKE THESE KIDS IN FOR 30 YEARS OF TAKING THESE KIDS IN.

IT'S JUST AMAZING. STILL STICKING WITH IT.

THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH FOR WHAT YOU DO.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I LIKE TO PRESENT YOU WITH THIS SO THAT YOU CAN GIVE IT TO THEM.

AND CONFIRM THEY SEND THE OTHER ONE, I'M NOT SURE.

>> WHILE YOU'RE DOING THAT, I WANT TO MAKE A COMMENT ABOUT,

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WHEN WE LOOK AT THE OVERALL FUNDING TO COME OUT OF THE AMERICAN RECOVERY PLAN, EACH OF THE COMMISSIONERS HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO DESIGNATE CERTAIN AREAS WHERE THEY SAW A NEED AND I'M EXCITED TO LET YOU ALL KNOW THAT IN THE COMING WEEKS, WE ARE CURRENTLY REVIEWING THE REVENUE LOSS MODEL FOR FOSTER VILLAGE, NOT SURE IF YOU'RE MET WITH FOSTER VILLAGE BUT THEY ARE BASED IN DRIPPING SPRINGS, THE ACTION ORGANIZATION THAT STARTED FROM MAYBE THREE OR FOUR SETS OF FOSTER PARENTS THERE. WHENEVER INDIVIDUALS GET A FOSTER, THEY DON'T KNOW WHO THE CHILD IS, WHAT THE SITUATION IS COME WITH AGE WILL BE, WHAT THE SEX WILL BE.

IT IS REALLY HARD TO PREPARE FOR THE SITUATIONS WHEN YOU GET THE CALL AND YOU HAVE A CHILD HERE THAT NEEDS HELP AND WE NEED THEM IN YOUR HOME IN 45 MINUTES.AND SO, FOSTER VILLAGE WAS FOUNDED SPECIFICALLY, TO PROVIDE ALL THE MATERIALS THAT YOU NEED PURSUANT TO WHATEVER CHILD YOU'RE GOING TO GET. AND ORIGINALLY, THE OPERATOR OUT OF THE STORAGE FACILITY DRIPPING SPRINGS, WHERE THEY COULD GO AND MORE OR LESS, FOSTER FAMILY COULD GO AND MORE OR LESS SHOT FOR CHILD THEY GOT WHETHER IT'S A CRIB OR CAR SEAT, DIFFERENT THINGS. THEY MOVED OUT OF THAT, ABOUT FOUR YEARS AGO I GUESS. NOW THEY OPERATE NATIONWIDE.

THERE FOSTER VILLAGES IN THE CAROLINAS AND DALLAS-FORT WORTH IN HOUSTON BUT IT ALL STARTED IN DRIPPING SPRINGS AND THEY STILL PROVIDE THE SERVICES OUT OF A FACILITY THAT IS NOW LOCATED ON -- ROAD I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO SPEAK TO THEM AND THEY TRULY ARE A SOURCE COUNTYWIDE FOR THOSE FOSTER

FAMILIES. >> DON'T JUST TAKE 1826 TO GET THERE! [LAUGHTER]

>> JUDGE, OR TO THANK LEE ADDRESS OF THE BOARD.

THESE AWARDS SPEAK VOLUMES FOR THE COUNTY.

AS A VOLUNTEER IN THOSE LIKE THIS FAMILY IS REALLY GOOD TO KNOW THAT HAYS COUNTY IS LEADING BECAUSE OF THE PEOPLE THAT SPEND THE TIME WORKING ON THESE IMPORTANT ISSUES AND I KNOW COMMISSIONER INGALSBE AND I'VE WORKED ON SOME OF THE FUNDS FOR THE BOARD AS WELL TO SEE IF WE COULD TAKE CARE SOME OF THOSE LOSSES BUT THERE ARE SOME AMAZING PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY. THAT WERE JUST ON AGENDA HAVE BEEN DOING THIS FOR A LONG TIME WITHOUT RECOGNITION.

I THINK THEY DESERVE WHAT THEY'VE LEARNED TODAY IT'S VERY SPECIAL. THANK YOU ALL FOR EVERYTHING

YOU DO. >> THANK YOU FOR HIGHLIGHTING THAT BECAUSE THAT'S EXACTLY, WE DON'T WANT TO INSTEAD AND I WILL AGREE WHOLEHEARTEDLY. THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONTINUED SUPPORT OF OUR COMMUNITY. AGAIN OUR MOST VULNERABLE YET

AGAIN. >> ONE THING PEOPLE NOTICE ARE PROBABLY NOT AWARE OF. ALL WE SEE IS A FIRST NAME WHEN THE CASEWORKERS DID SOMETHING TO THE KIDS FIRST NAME AND WE APPROVE IT. [INAUDIBLE] WE NEVER SEE THESE KIDS, JUST THE WAY IT IS ACROSS THE STATE.

WE GIVE THEM ITEMS THEY NEED WHEN THEY MOVE INTO A FOSTER HOME. WE JUST DO IT.

-- HAS DONE THIS 45 YEARS. [INAUDIBLE]

>> ALL OF YOU IN THIS COURTROOM, I MEAN IT, ONE WAY OR ANOTHER, YOU'RE REPRESENTING VULNERABLE PEOPLE AND VULNERABLE SPACES IN VULNERABLE MOMENTS IN THEIR LIFE IN A MINUTE. THANK YOU FOR HELPING TO REPRESENT THE MOST VULNERABLE IN OUR COMMUNITY.

>> AND WE KNOW THAT SARAH HALL IS NO LONGER ON THE BOARD.

THOSE OF YOU REMEMBER SARAH, SHE WAS MY EXECUTIVE ASSISTANT AND REAPPOINTED HER TO THE BOARD.

SHE SERVED AS A OFFICER OF THE COURT IN NEBRASKA FOR CHILD PROTECTIVE SERVICES 10 YEARS BEFORE SHE CAME TO WORK FOR ME.

KNOWING THAT SHE'S NO LONGER THE BOARD, IF AND WHEN YOU ALL HAVE OTHER BOARD OPPORTUNITIES, PLEASE REACH OUT.

BECAUSE I GOT SOME FOLKS IN DRIPPING SPRINGS AND THAT SURE

[K4. Update to the Commissioners Court regarding the proposed Hays County Public Defender's Office. INGALSBE/SHELL]

>> PLEASE OPEN K4. >> UPDATE TO THE COMMISSIONERS COURT REGARDING THE PROPOSED HAYS COUNTY PUBLIC DEFENDER'S

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OFFICE. >> AND BE HAPPY MAKE A FEW COMMENTS. JUDGE, I THOUGHT REPRESENTATIVE FROM THE COUNTY LAW AND DISTRICT JUDGES WOULD BE HERE.

AND APPARENTLY, THEY ARE NOT ABLE TO MAKE IT OR I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE SITUATION WAS. I THOUGHT THEY WOULD BE HERE.

TO HELP PROVIDE THE UPDATE. NEVERTHELESS, THEY HAVE BEEN WORKING TOGETHER, HAVE BEEN MEETING, ALL THE DISTRICT JUDGES BUT SOME OF THEM, HAVE A MEETING TOGETHER, WORKING, TRYING TO FINALIZE THE CONTRACT AND THE PROCESSES JUST FUNNY AND MAKING CERTAIN THAT EVERYTHING IS IN PLACE TO MOVE FORWARD. I THINK WE ARE EXTREMELY CLOSE.

I UNDERSTAND THAT IT HAS BEEN A VERY LONG TIME, BUT I THINK WE ARE VERY CLOSE TO FINALIZING THE CONTRACT.

I ANTICIPATE AND COMMISSIONER SHELL WERE MARKET CAN BECOME WORKING SIDE-BYSIDE WITH THE JUDGE'S, CORRECT ME, BUT MAYBE NEXT FEW WEEKS, NOVEMBER TIMEFRAME, NO LATER THAN DECEMBER, I'M HOPING NOVEMBER WE CAN HAVE A CONTRACT BEFORE THE COURT TO APPROVE. ANOTHER THEY ARE EXTREMELY ANXIOUS TO GET STARTED. THEY MADE SOME REALLY GOOD RECOMMENDATIONS. PARDON ME.

ON HOW WE MOVE FORWARD WITH SOFTWARE AND THE THINGS THEY FEEL ARE NECESSARY. AND SO, I REALLY BELIEVE THAT WE ARE JUST A COUPLE OF WEEKS AWAY FROM HAVING THAT COURT FOR APPROVAL I KNOW THAT WE DO HAVE COURT NEXT WEEK AND I'M HOPING MAYBE THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY NEXT WEEK.

AND ON NOVEMBER 1, WE WILL PROVIDE MORE.

>> THE JUDGE'S THAT WE HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH, THEY DID WANT TO BE HERE TUESDAYS ARE KIND OF HARD.

A LOT OF STUFF IS GOING ON AND IN THE JUDICIAL AREA RIGHT NOW IN THE COURT, IT'S VERY BUSY AND SO, I DID SPEAK WITH AND COMMUNICATE WITH ONE OF THE JUDGE'S LAST NIGHT AND WISH THEY COULD HAVE BEEN HERE BUT TOLD THE METHOD WILL BE OKAY THIS IS JUST AN UPDATE THEY LIKE TO SHARE AS WELL BUT -- I WANTED TO GIVE A LITTLE BACKGROUND ON THAT JUST KIND OF WHERE WE GOT IN THE PROCESS THAT WE FOLLOWED.

I WOULD SAY, PROBABLY THREE YEARS AGO IS ABOUT THE TIME JUDGE, THAT MAY BE THE FIRST DISCUSSIONS ABOUT GRANT OPPORTUNITIES FOR PUBLIC DEFENDER STARTED EARNESTLY IN THE COUNTY. I WOULD SAY THAT THIS IS WHEN THE COMMISSIONERS AND BODY STARTED DISCUSSING PUBLIC DEFENDERS OFFICE AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

THAT BEGINNING DISCUSSIONS WERE FOR THE MOST PART ASSOCIATED WITH GRANT APPLICATIONS WITH THE STATE.

AND THE DEFENSE COMMISSION. I KIND OF USE THAT AS WHEN WE STARTED TALKING ABOUT THIS. I'VE BEEN SORT OF ALL AROUND THE ISSUE FIRST, LIKE MANY THINGS THAT WE DEAL WITH, YOU KNOW JUST REALLY NOT UP TO SPEED ON IT.

VERY WELL EDUCATED ON THE ISSUE, SOMETHING THAT WAS NEW TO THE COUNTY, SOME OF THE PROCESS IN TRAVIS COUNTY AND ESTABLISHMENT OF PUBLIC DEFENDERS OFFICE, DID A LOT OF WORK TRY TO FOLLOW EXACTLY HOW THAT HAPPENED ONCE HE STARTED DISCUSSING IT. WE HAD MULTIPLE OPINIONS MYSELF ON PUBLIC AFFAIRS OFFICE, AND THE SYSTEM ETC. I'VE KIND OF BEEN ON EVERY SIDE AND WHERE I LANDED OBVIOUSLY, I BELIEVE THE ESTABLISHMENT OF A PUBLIC DEFENDERS OFFICE IN THE COUNTY, ESPECIALLY WHEN THEY WOULD HAVE FOCUS ON MENTAL HEALTH, IS MUCH-NEEDED AND WOULD DO SOME REALLY GOOD THINGS.

AND SO, WHEN THIS COURT DECIDED TO GO DOWN THAT PATH, WE DECIDE TO PUT AN RFP OUT FOR PROVIDER OF THE SERVICES AND THAT IS OUTLINED IN DAKOTA CRIMINAL PROCEDURE CHAPTER 26.

IT TALKS ABOUT THE ESTABLISHMENT OF A PUBLIC DEFENDERS OFFICE.OUNTIES CAN DO IT IN SEVERAL WAYS.

SOME COUNTIES ESTABLISH A COUNTY DEPARTMENT.

IS SIMILAR TO WHAT WE DO WITH PRETRIAL DEPARTMENT RIGHT NOW.

THEY PUT A BUDGET TOGETHER AND HIRED A CHIEF, THE CHIEF ILLS OF THE DEPARTMENT AND GOES TO WORK.

THAT IS ONE THING YOU CAN DO, THE GOVERNMENT CAN CREATE A PUBLIC DEFENDERS OFFICE. THE GOVERNMENT CAN ALSO CONTRACT WITH SUMMA TO PROVIDE THE SERVICES AND THAT IS WITH A NOT FOR PROFIT. THAT WAS THE PATH WE DECIDED TO TAKE. IF YOU CHOOSE THE PATH, THEN THE STATUTE REQUIRES YOU TO GO THROUGH A PROCESS WHICH STARTS WITH THE REQUEST FOR PROPOSALS FROM THOSE THAT OPERATE THE PUBLIC DEFENDERS OFFICE. I'VE BEEN ASKED WHY THAT WAS MY

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THAT COULD BRING SOME KNOWLEDGE AND THINGS THAT THEY'VE LEARNED IN OTHER PLACES AND APPLY THEM SPECIFICALLY TO HAYS COUNTY.

THAT WAS ONE OF MY REASONS. AS WE BEEN WORKING ON CREATION OF A PRETRIAL PROGRAM, WHERE SORT OF MERGING THE EXISTING SERVICES HAVE THE PREPARATION TO A NEW DEPARTMENT THAT I THINK WILL BE SUCCESSFUL. IN THE CASE OF PUBLIC DEFENDERS OFFICE, BRINGING A GROUP WITH EXPERIENCE THAT HAS A MANAGEMENT STRUCTURE PROGRAMS, SOFTWARE SYSTEMS TO HELP MANAGE THIS FROM DAY ONE WOULD BE GOOD.

AND THAT WOULD BE A CONTRACT AND PERFORMANCE WOULD BE MEASURED IN THE EVENT THAT THE END OF THE CONTRACT TERM THE COUNTY WISH TO GO IN A DIFFERENT DIRECTION AND ALWAYS BE AT THE BILLY THE COUNTY TO DECIDE TO DO THAT.

WE FOLLOW THAT PATH, AND PUT OUT A REQUEST FOR PROPOSAL TO RECEIVE TWO RESPONSES, TWO VERY GOOD FIRMS, WELL-RESPECTED AND IN THIS COUNTRY FOR THE SERVICES THEY PROVIDE.

IN THE END, THE COURT DECIDED TO SELECT AND NEGOTIATE THIS CONTRACT WITH LABOR DEFENDER SERVICE, SOME OF MY REASONS FOR THAT WERE EXPLAINED DURING THE COURT BUT I DID BELIEVE WHAT THEY WOULD BRING TO THE TABLE FROM EXPERIENCE, DEALING WITH MENTAL HEALTH CLIENTS, WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS DESPERATELY NEEDED AND THE TIME WE ARE IN. THEY WERE SELECTED BY THE COURT AND FROM THAT POINT ON, IT WAS ALMOST 6 MONTHS AGO NOW.

WE BEEN WORKING ON WHAT THAT WILL LOOK LIKE, HOW WOULD BE CREATED, WHAT THE STAFF WOULD LOOK LIKE, HOW THEY WOULD OPERATE AND WHAT DOES MENTAL HEALTH MEAN? WHAT IS THE BRAHMER FOR THAT? WHEN DO THEY GET ASSIGNED? WHAT WHEN THEY GET ASSIGNED A CASE THAT WE WOULD CALL MENTAL HEALTH CASE? WE'VE BEEN DISCUSSING THOSE THINGS WITH NOT JUST JUDGES, BUT WITH OTHER STAFF AND COUNTY TO TRY AND DETERMINE THE BEST WAY FOR THE MODEL TO WORK AND TO OPERATE. HOW WOULD THEY RECEIVE THE APPOINTMENTS? AND SOME OF THOSE DETAILS.

WITH RESPECT TO MENTAL HEALTH, ONE OF THE THINGS WE DISCUSSED ARE WHAT WE CALL 1622. WHICH IS COMMUNIST CHAPTER 16 OF THE CODE OF CRIMINAL PROCEDURES, IT IS SARAH BLAND ACT FOR THE MOST PART. WE NEED ANOTHER STORY SARAH BLAND. WHO PASSED AWAY IN A JAIL IN TEXAS AND -- SANDRA BLAND, PASSED AWAY IN A JAIL IN TEXAS.

THAT RESPONSE TO THAT WAS TAKING CARE OF THE NEXT LEGISLATIVE SESSION, CODE OF CRIMINAL PROCEDURES.

THERE WAS A RESPONSE TO THAT AND TO TRY TO IDENTIFY THOSE THAT MAY BE SUFFERING FROM A MENTAL ILLNESS AS EARLY AS POSSIBLE. SO THAT THEY CAN BE TREATED AND PROVIDE BETTER SAFETY FOR THEMSELVES AND EVERYONE ELSE.

1622 REQUIRES AN EVALUATION TO BE DONE, THE MAGISTRATE BELIEVES THE PERSON BEFORE THEM IS SUFFERING FROM A MENTAL ILLNESS, SO I MAGISTRATE TODAY, THEY DO INTERVIEWS WITH THOSE, THE CUSTODY, THE MAGISTRATE SEES THOSE, AND IF THE MAGISTRATE BELIEVES THERE IS REASON TO BELIEVE THEY ARE SUFFERING FROM MENTAL ILLNESS THEY CAN ORDER THIS EVALUATION TO MENTAL HEALTH AUTHORITY. HE PROBLEM WITH THAT IS THAT WHEN THEY ARE IN CUSTODY IT COULD BE DONE THROUGH OUR HEALTH PROVIDER WHEN THEY'RE NOT IN OUR CUSTODY, WHO IS MAKING SURE THAT HAPPENS? YOU'D HOPE MAYBE THE DEFENSE COUNSEL WOULD BE ONE, TO MAKE SURE THAT HAPPENS.

BUT WE HAVE SEEN THAT CAN BE A GAP.

USING THAT 1622 S OF THE BAROMETER, IF THE MAGISTRATE DECIDES AN INDIVIDUAL IS TO BE EVALUATED FOR MENTAL FOR MULTIPLE INNOCENTLY CURRENTLY IN OUR CUSTODY, I THOUGHT A GOOD POINT TO DETERMINE A DEFINITION WILL BE CONSIDERED TO BE A MENTAL HEALTH CASE. THE INDIVIDUAL COULD POTENTIALLY BE CHARGED WITH ML FELONY, DIVERTED TO MENTAL HEALTH COURT WHICH IS THE JUDGE'S WORK ON NOW PAM BUT IT'S A VERY GOOD STARTING POINT TO SAY THIS INDIVIDUAL HAS MENTAL HEALTH -- WE TALKED ABOUT THAT WITH MENTAL FOCUS, THAT THEY WOULD HANDLE THE REPRESENTATION OF THOSE INDIVIDUALS THAT HAVE EVALUATION PERFORMED ON THEM.

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IT SPELLS OUT HOW IT IS DONE THE COUNTY ARE SEVERAL DIFFERENT WAYS IT CAN GO, CAN REFER TO IT AS A RANDOM SELECTION, NEXT PERSON UP TYPE OF THING.

THUS ANOTHER PIECE HAS TO BE WORKED INTO THE DISCUSSIONS BEFORE WE HAVE A CONTRACT. I BELIEVE IN GENERAL, THAT THE GROWTH OF THE COUNTY, THE GROWTH IN CASES, BACKLOGGED CASES, WE ARE SEEING ACROSS MANY AREAS, AS A BACKLOG CONTINUES, WE NEED ALL OF THE ORGANIZED HEALTH THAT WE CAN GET TO ADDRESS THAT.ND I'VE HAD DISCUSSIONS WITH PEOPLE THAT HAVE DIFFERENT PAINS -- OPINIONS IN GENERAL AND I BELIEVE IT IS A PRIORITY PUBLIC SAFETY.

I THINK IT IS SOMETHING THAT OUR COUNTRY WAS FOUNDED ON THE THE GOVERNMENT CAN'T JUST SAY WE WILL LOCK YOU UP.ITHOUT YOU HAVING -- TO MAKE AN ARGUMENT BECAUSE WILL KNOW THAT THERE BEEN CASES IN HISTORY AND ONGOING CASES IN VARIOUS COUNTRIES RIGHT NOW THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN.WE ALL AS AMERICANS HAVE SET OURSELVES, WE ARE AT A HIGHER STANDARD THAN THAT. THAT IS ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT THINGS THE GOVERNMENT CAN'T JUST COME TELL ME THEY WILL LOCK ME UP SO TO HAVE GOOD JUSTICE, YOU HAVE TO AT LEAST BELIEVE IN THAT. THAT IS THE START OF OUR SYSTEM. WE HAVE GREAT LAWYERS TO TAKE APPOINTMENTS AND YOU KNOW, QUALITY, AND NOT GETTING TO THE QUALITY ISSUES I DON'T KNOW THEM I'M NOT A LAWYER I DON'T FOLLOW CASE, NO ATTORNEYS IN THE COUNTY AND THEY CARE DEEPLY ABOUT WHAT THEY DO. I TRULY BELIEVE THERE IS A CAPACITY ISSUE AS MUCH AS ANYTHING.

WHEN I WAS A KID IN SAN MARCOS, TEXAS I COULD PROBABLY GO TO THE JAIL AND EVEN ANOTHER PERSON OR KNOW A FAMILY MEMBER OF THE PERSON. IT WAS A SMALL PLACE.

WE HAD ATTORNEYS HERE FOR THEIR ENTIRE LIVES, REPRESENTING

INDIVIDUALS. >> ARE YOU KNOWING THE

ATTORNEYS ARE THOSE IN JAIL? >> I KNEW THOSE IN JAIL THEIR DATA ARE THERE MOM OR GRANDMOTHER OR SOMETHING.

IT WOULD'VE BEEN COMMONPLACE IT WAS THAT BIG A PLACE.

IT WASN'T VERY BIG. THE OLD JAIL EVEN THE CURRENT JAIL. NOT A VERY BIG BUILDING.

AND SO, WE HAD GREAT ATTORNEYS THAT HAD BEEN IN THE COMMUNITIES FOR YEARS. TO GET AN APPOINTMENT AT A DOCTOR'S OFFICE FOR A FRIEND OF YOURS THEY COULDN'T PAY BECAUSE DOCTORS HAD SO MANY SPOTS OPEN, THE JUDGE IS TO TALK ABOUT THAT, DOCTOR SORT OF SHARED THE RESPONSIBILITY.

THEY WOULD SAY OKAY, I CAN'T FILL UP THE WHOLE DAY WITH PATIENTS THAT ARE LIKELY NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO PAY ME OR MAKE -- THE OCONNOR SHARE THE RESPONSIBILITY.

I THINK THERE'S A LONG HISTORY OF ATTORNEYS DOING THAT AS WELL. WE ARE A SMALL COMMUNITY.

THEY PROVIDED THAT REPRESENTATION.

SOMETIMES VERY LITTLE TO NO PAY FOR THOSE SERVICES.

IT'S JUST WHAT THEY DID. WE AREN'T SMALL ANYMORE.

WE ARE THE FASTEST GROWING COUNTY IN THE COUNTRY.

WE RUN INTERSTATE CORRIDOR IN THE MIDDLE OF METROPOLIS, WE DON'T KNOW EVERYBODY ANYMORE AND NOW LYING ON ATTORNEYS NOT JUST FROM HAYS COUNTY BUT WOMAN ENTIRE REGION TO DO THIS.

IT'S A VERY COMPLICATED SYSTEM WE THINK ABOUT THE GROWTH IN NEIGHBORING COUNTIES, GUADALUPE AND CALDWELL.

NOT TO MENTION EXAGGERATE THIS WITH OUTSOURCING INMATES ACROSS THE STATE OF TEXAS AS FAR AS WAY AS THE RED RIVER AND AS FAR

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THAT MAKES IT EVEN HARDER NOW YOUR BROTHER BARRY IS INTO THAT JUSTICE. THEN YOU LOOK AT IT, NOT JUST FROM THE SIDE OF THE REPRESENTATION FOR THE ACCUSED, BUT FOR THE VICTIM. IS IT JUSTICE FOR VICTIM OF 30 YEARS LATER, THE TRIAL FINALLY HAPPENS? AND CIRCUMSTANCES HAVE CHANGED AND MAYBE, POLICE OFFICERS INVOLVED ARE NO LONGER HERE. MAYBE THEIR MEMORIES ARE THE SAME. IS THAT JUSTICE FOR THE VICTIM AS WELL? I DON'T THINK SO.

HE'S AN EXAMPLE TO TALK TO PEOPLE BECAUSE I BELIEVE IT IS JUST AS IMPORTANT. IF USE AN EXAMPLE FOR INSTANCE, SOMEONE BEING ACCUSED OF ASSAULT OF A MINOR.

LET'S SAY THE MOURNERS 14 OR 15 AT THE TIME.

LET'S SAY THE PERSON DAY IN COURT DOESN'T HAPPEN FOR FOUR YEARS. 34 YEARS, WHICH COULD BE AWFUL.

THAT MINORS NO LONGER MINOR. THERE 18 YEARS OLD NOW.

JURIES ARE MAKING DECISIONS BASED UPON ARGUMENTS.

MAYBE THAT PERSONS LIFE HASN'T GONE SO WELL SINCE THEY WERE 14. MAYBE IT WAS BECAUSE OF THE CRIME WAS COMMITTED. MAYBE THE REASON THAT THEY DON'T PRESENT VERY WELL AS A WITNESS.

ALL OF THOSE THINGS ARE NOT GOOD JUSTICE.

I THINK WE CAN ALL AGREE WITH THAT AND SAY WHAT CAN WE DO? WHAT CAN WE PROVIDE TO THE SYSTEM.

EVERYTHING FROM HOW CASE OF FILES WITH THE SOFTWARE SYSTEM FOR EFFICIENCY, HOW MAGISTRATES IS DONE THAT WE WORK ON AS EFFICIENCY TO A PRETRIAL PROGRAM WHICH HAS BEEN SUCCESSFUL AND WE WILL GRANT OPPORTUNITIES.

ALL OF THOSE THINGS WE'RE DOING BECAUSE WE HAVE TO DO EVERYTHING BECAUSE OF WHAT WE JUST LAID OUT WITH THE BACKLOG IN OUR COURTS. SO NOW, IF WE CAN ADD ANOTHER PIECE, WHICH IS IN A REPLACEMENT FOR COURT-APPOINTED COUNSEL, THERE IS MORE WORK OUT THERE THAT I THINK WE ARE PEOPLE TO DO IT. IT IS AN ENHANCEMENT.

AN ENHANCEMENT THAT BRINGS EXPERIENCE DEALING WITH MENTAL HEALTH CASES WHICH WE HAVE A SIGNIFICANT NUMBER OF.

THAT'S KIND OF MY REASONING FOR WHERE, THE BACKGROUND FOR WE ARE AND THINGS WERE DISCUSSING THAT WHICH I BELIEVE ARE VERY TECHNICAL AT THIS POINT, HOW DOES IT ACTUALLY WORK? AND WE HAVE TO HAVE COOPERATION OF THE JUDICIARY AS WELL AS OTHER FUNCTIONS OF COUNTY GOVERNMENT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE SET SOMETHING UP FOR SUCCESS, I'D LOVE TO HAVE A CONTRACT, I LOVE THAT ONE MONTH AGO THAT WE ALL BRING AND WE KNEW THE ANSWER THE QUESTIONS AND SET US UP FOR THE BEST CHANCES OF SUCCESS. I DON'T BELIEVE WE'RE QUITE THERE YET THINK LEAVE A LITTLE MORE TIME, LITTLE BIT MORE WORK WITH SOME PARTNERS TO MAKE SURE THAT WHEN THIS OFFICE IS OPERATIONAL, THAT IT WILL BE SUCCESSFUL AND SUCCESSFUL SOONER THAN LATER BECAUSE I DO NOT BELIEVE WE CAN AFFORD TO

FAIL IN THIS. >> COMMISSIONER THANKS FOR THE RECAP IT WAS WELL DONE. AND I KNOW FOR SURE, THERE ARE AT LEAST THREE OF US ON THE BUBBLE PUSHING THIS FORWARD.

WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO IS ASK A SHORT LIST, WHETHER IT COMES FROM THE COMMISSIONERS OFFICE THAT WE CREATED OR COMES FROM OUR GENERAL COUNSEL. WHAT IS THE SHORT LIST OF THINGS LEFT TO ACCOMPLISH SO WE CAN NAIL THIS THING DOWN ONCE

AND FOR ALL? >> I WILL LOOK TOWARDS MR. KINLEY, AND HE'S PREPARED TO ANSWER BECAUSE MARK HAS BEEN WORKING ON THE COMMUNICATION OF THESE DETAILS WITH STAFF AND THE COURTS AND JUDGES TO TRY AND FIND WHAT THINGS WE NEED TO IDENTIFY FOR THAT CONTRACT, TO BE ABLE TO ENCOMPASS MUCH AS WE POSSIBLY CAN. ANOTHER FAIRLY THINGS WE CAN'T PREDICT THAT WILL HAPPEN, WE WILL HAVE A FEW DETAILS, WE UNDERSTAND WE CAN'T DO EVERYTHING RUMBLING BUT TO GET SOMETHING THAT SETS US UP FOR SUCCESS, THAT'S WHAT MARK WILL

WORK ON. >> YES, MR. KENNEDY?

>> GOOD MORNING, THERE'S REALLY THREE FACETS, THAT WE ARE WORKING THROUGH. WHAT IS THE CONTRACT ITSELF.

THE CONTRACT, THE LAST DRAFT CONTRACT WAS SENT OVER MY OFFICE THREE AND HALF WEEKS AGO THAT WAS STILL FLUID AND WE ARE STILL WORKING ON THAT. I'M GOING TO PROVIDE EDITS BACK ON THE CONTRACT WE WILL ALSO BE WORKING ON PARALLEL TRACKS AND OTHER FACETS THAT I REFERENCED. ONE IS TO ADDRESS CONCERNS THE JUDGE'S MIGHT HAVE ABOUT HOW IT GETS INTEGRATED WE WILL AN ABUNDANCE OF 1622, RELATED CASES, HAVE A GREATER IMPACT ON

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ALTHOUGH, THE ORDER OF THE 1622 EVALUATION DOESN'T NECESSARILY MEAN THAT THERE IS A MENTAL HEALTH ISSUE INVOLVED IN THE CASE. NOT AS OF YET, NOT UNTIL THEIR FINDINGS. WE BEEN WORKING THROUGH THOSE ISSUES AND ADDRESSING CONCERNS. LAST FACET IS WORKING TO THE PRACTICAL ISSUE HOW THESE GET DOCUMENTED AND BROUGHT IN THE SYSTEM. THESE AREN'T CASES BEING HEARD IN EVERY COURT, WHAT IS A TRIGGER AND HOW AS A PRACTICAL MATTER DOESN'T YET GET ROUTED. TRY TO FIGURE HOW IT IS IN THE SYSTEM, PROBABLY MORE COMPLICATED AND WE ARE WORKING THROUGH THAT. WE HAVE HAD SEVERAL MEETINGS WITH JUDGES. THE JUDGES FROM BOTH COUNTY COURTS AND DISTRICT COURTS MET WITH MYSELF, AND I GUESS IT WAS A WEEK AND HALF AGO. TWO WEEKS AGO.

WE HAD ADMINISTRATION OF THE COURTS MEETING AND LAST FRIDAY, UPCOMING, ONLY WITH JUDGE STEELE NEXT WEEK.

HE WON'T BE IN HAYS COUNTY HE WILL BE IN GUADALUPE AND I HAVE TO MEET WITH HIM. AND WILL HAVE A MEETING THAT THE COMPANY HAS A MEETING WITH ALL THE JUDGE'S, I THINK THAT WOULD KINDA SOLIDIFY SOME ANSWERS AND FINALLY SOME OF THE QUESTIONS THE JUDGE'S MIGHT HAVE OVER HOW THIS WORKS.

>> ABLE TO RECAP AND UNDERSTAND THIS RIGHT AND FOR THE VIEWING PUBLIC TO MAKE SURE WE ARE ON THE SAME PAGE.

ANOTHER WE MAKE SOME EDITS BUT ATTORNEYS ARE NOT SHOPPING FOR JUDGES. SO WE CAN HAVE SOME ROTATION THAT IS MORE CONSISTENT. I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY, THINGS I'VE HEARD CONCERNS ABOUT HOW DISPENSE OR ALLOCATE 1622 CLASSIFIED POTENTIALS AND THEN THE DOCKET AND ROUTING AND TO ME IN SOME TYPE OF WAY AND MY LEHMANS APPROACH, IT SOUNDS VERY SIMILAR ABOUT MOVING PEOPLE THROUGH THE REPRESENTATION OF THE COURTROOM.

AM I GETTING THIS SUMMARIZED RIGHT?

>> 1622 JUST LADY HOW TO TRIGGER THE APPOINTMENT.

REASON THE IDEA COMMISSIONER SHELL COMMENTED A BIT EARLIER BUT I'LL SAY PERHAPS IN A DIFFERENT WAY.

THE REASON IT WAS A POTENTIAL TRIGGER IS BECAUSE NDS PLANNED TO HAVE ABOUT HALF OF ITS CASES BE MENTAL HEALTH RELATED CASES.

AND ABOUT THE OTHER HALF, BEING GENERAL APPOINTMENTS.

AND SO, THE THOUGHT IS THAT IT IS A GOOD TRIGGER FOR COUPLE OF REASONS. ONE, UNIQUELY IDENTIFIABLE TRIGGERS FOR WHEN A PUBLIC DEFENDER IS APPOINTED VERSUS A PRIVATE DEFENDER. WHICH IS THE SYSTEM WE HAVE NOW. WE WILL HAVE A HYBRID GOING FORWARD WILL KNOW THAT. NDS PLANS TO HAVE PERHAPS, SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 20 AND 30 PERCENT OF THE TOTAL DOCKET OF APPOINTED CASES, THE SUBJECT APPEARED ABOUT HALF WHICH WOULD BE MENTAL HEALTH RELATED CASES. THEY BELIEVE THEY WILL BE ABLE TO IMPROVE THE ACCOMPANIMENT OF THESE EVALUATIONS THAT ARE ORDERED. IF SOMEONE IS RELEASED FROM JAIL, WE HAVE A DIFFICULT TIME TRACKING HOW TO GO ABOUT GETTING THAT EVALUATION DONE OR CONVINCINGLY DEFENDANT TO GO GET THE EVALUATION DONE. SO, IT'S IMPORTANT THAT THOSE GET DONE. THEY'RE NOT PROMISED 100 PERCENT SUCCESS RATE ON THAT BUT THEY SAID THAT THEY BELIEVE THEY CAN IMPROVE THE RATE THAT EXISTS NOW.

WE TRIED TO PLUG THEM INTO PLACES WHERE THEY CAN ACCOMPLISH THEIR STATED CONTRACTUAL GOALS, BUT ALSO, TO IMPROVE THE SYSTEM THAT EXISTS CURRENTLY.

THAT'S THE IDEA. ENOUGH ANSWERED YOUR QUESTION.

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>> NO IT'S OKAY WE'RE TOSSING THIS RUNAWAYS THE MOST ADJUSTABLE FOR THE MOST LAYMEN OF AUSTIN WE WERE CHOSEN NDS.

OF THE JUDGE'S SEAT AS INEVITABILITY THREE OF US FOR NOT CALLING ABOUT THIS ONE THING THIS WAY.

AT LEAST THREE OF US ARE IN SUPPORT OF THE EFFORT SO MY SENSE OF URGENCY IS REAL. AND I'M NOT ALONE IN THIS.

AND SO, IS THERE SOMETHING ELSE THAT MAY BE, WE CAN GET MOVING KNOW SO MUCH OF THIS IS ALREADY DONE, TO MOVE THIS ALONG WITH SOME KIND OF WAY, ORDERING WHETHER IT BE I DON'T KNOW, WIRES, COMPUTERS, SOMETHING TO KEEP THIS THING MOVING SO THAT WHEN IT FINALLY PUSHES OFF WE SAY, YOUR OFFICE IS READY,

LET'S GO. >> IT WILL BE THE NDS RESPONSIBILITY TO IDENTIFY OFFICE SPACE AND RESERVE OFFICE SPACE. I KNOW THEY'VE ALREADY BEEN DOING INTERVIEWS AND READY IDENTIFY POTENTIAL CANDIDATES TO BE DEFENDERS HERE WITHIN THE COUNTY.

I THINK THEY ARE ALREADY SHORTENING THAT TIMEFRAME.

THEY ARE BUSYING THEMSELVES. P>> THAT'S GOOD TO HEAR.

I WOULD LIKE TO LOOP BACK, NOT TO BEAT A DEAD HORSE.

BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE DISPENSING AND MOVING THROUGH THE PDL AND PROBABLY NEGOTIATED THE PERCENTAGE OF CASELOAD DOCKET, WITHOUT PRIVATE PRACTICE ATTORNEYS IN HARMONY IN SOME WAY, IS WHERE WE ARE LEFT TO NEGOTIATE WITH THE JUDGE'S AND SO, DO WE BELIEVE THAT WE WILL HAVE THIS RESOLVED FOR NEXT

COURT? >> NOW.

>> I DON'T BELIEVE SO. FOR ONE, A MEETING WILL NOT E UNTIL THE WEEK AFTER THIS WEEK. AND THAT'S A VERY IMPORTANT ONE. AGAIN, YOU KNOW, THE STATUTE OUTLINES HOW WE CREATE THIS AND FOLLOWING THE STATUTE.

BUT IN ORDER FOR TO BE TRULY SUCCESSFUL, WE HAVE TWO IDENTIFY HOW IT WILL WORK WITHIN THE SYSTEM.

AND FOR THAT, WE NEED BUY-IN, WE NEED STAFF BUY-IN, THUS WE ARE WORKING ON. WE MADE REALLY GOOD STRIDES, PROPOSES QUESTIONS, YOU KNOW HOW DOES THE PDL KNOW THAT THERE CLIENT? JUST EVERYTHING.

THIS HAPPENS AND WHAT IF YOU'RE CURRENTLY BEING REPRESENTED FROM SOMEBODY ELSE, SOME TECHNICAL THINGS LIKE THAT THAT WE'VE OUTLINED TO THE BEST OF OUR ABILITY HOW TO DEAL WITH THE ISSUES AND WE WANT TO HOLD THE PROVIDER ACCOUNTABLE.

WE WANT A GOOD CONTRACT AND HOW THEY ARE STAFFED WE DON'T WANT TO PAY FOR IT. WE WANT TO PAY FOR STAFF ISN'T GOING TO BE USED, WE DON'T WANT THEM TO BE STARTED WITH NOT ACCURATE STAFF BASED ON WHAT WE EXPECT.

WE ARE HAVING SOME REALLY DETAILED DISCUSSIONS AND THINGS, NOT A LAWYER OR JUDGE. A DISTRICT ATTORNEY OR CLERK OR ANYTHING ELSE. THAT WE ARE IDENTIFYING FLOWS, THIS HAPPENS AND THEN THIS HAPPENS, HOW DO THEY KNOW A PERSON WAS TO REPRESENT THEM, CONFLICT OF INTEREST OF ISSUES, HOW TO DESCRIBE THAT. THAT'S VERY DETAILED, I BELIEVE WE'VE COME A LONG WAY IT'S NOT BEEN VAST.

>> WE MEET THREE TIMES IN NOVEMBER.

I DON'T KNOW IF WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO BRING IT BACK IN NOVEMBER NOT.Y PREFERENCE WOULD BE THAT WE DO.

AND THE OTHER THING I WOULD SAY IS THAT, WITH ANYTHING NEW, I KNOW WE WANT TO GET AS CLEAR AS WE CAN AS FOR THE CONTRACT IS CONCERNED, DETAILS ARE CONCERNED.

BUT WE ALSO HAVE TO REALIZE THAT THERE MAY BE SOME THINGS PTHAT WE MISS, AND ONCE WE GET STARTED, THEN WE CAN REFINE ALL OF THAT. I MEAN BECAUSE WE ARE NOT YOU KNOW, WE MAY NOT GET IT PERFECT THE FIRST TIME.

BUT I THINK AS IT BEGINS YOU KNOW, WE UNDERSTAND AND WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT THIS WEIRD STAND THERE MIGHT BE CHANGES.

THEY NEED TO BE MADE AND SO, WE NEED TO JUST BE OPEN TO THAT

AND REALIZE THAT. >> WE TALKED ABOUT THAT AND NDS INDICATED THEY WILL BE FLEXIBLE AND CHECK IN FREQUENTLY ON HOW THINGS ARE GOING AND ADJUSTMENTS THAT NEED TO BE MADE. THE DEADLINE FOR NEXT COURT IS

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>> I'M HOPING IN SOME WAY TO CREATE MEASURABLE ATTAINABLE GOALS. THAT'S MY BUSINESS MIND GOING AT IT HERE. I'M JUST WONDERING, WHAT CAN BE REALISTIC STRIVE FOR THAT WOULD BE A PUSH OF COURSE, AS IT SHOULD BE. BUT PROVIDE SOME KIND OF --

>> ARE PROBABLY NOT THE BEST PERSON TO ASK BECAUSE I THINK I'VE IDENTIFIED DATES MULTIPLE TIMES NOW AND THEY HAVE GONE -- WHERE IN THE PAST NOW. I THINK NOVEMBER IS A GOOD GOAL. I AGREE WITH COMMISSIONER INGALSBE. WILL IDENTIFY EVERYTHING THAT WILL HAPPEN OR POP UP AND EXPLAIN IT IN PLAIN LANGUAGE IN A CONTRACT. WE'LL HAVE TO HAVE FLEXIBILITY.

I BELIEVE THERE IS PLENTY OF UNDERSTANDING AND COOPERATION THAT WE WILL HAVE TO COME BACK AND LOOK AT THIS MAY BE AFTER THE FIRST FEW MONTHS. IF 1622 FRANCES USES A TRIGGER AND NUMBER OF CASES IS HIGHER THAN THEY CAN LEGALLY HANDLE FRATERNITY THEN WE WILL HAVE TO MODIFY THAT.

THOSE ARE DEFINITELY ISSUES THAT WE WILL HAVE TO LEARN FROM EXPERIENCE AND BE WILLING TO ADAPT AND COME BACK.

IT WILL BE PERFECT, WE WILL HAVE TO AT LEAST LIVE WITH THE FRAMEWORK AND UNDERSTANDING WILL GET STARTED AND LEARN A LITTLE BIT, WE WILL ADAPT AS NEEDED.

I THINK A GOAL OF NOVEMBER IS A GOOD ONE I THINK IT'S ACHIEVABLE. THE WORK THAT'S BEEN DONE IN THE PAST FEW WEEKS, THEY'VE COME A LONG WAY LIKE MR. KENNEDY MENTIONED. THE AMENDED DRAFT AGREEMENT FROM NDS A FEW WEEKS AGO. I THINK IT'S VERY CLOSE, JUST IN THE DETAILS. CHRIS MADE WE CAN TARGET THE

29TH. >> WE ARE NOT MEETING THE 29TH.

THE TUESDAY PRIOR TO THANKSGIVING, THE 22ND.

>> WE ARE MEETING TWO WEEKS IN A ROW.

THEN THE 29TH IS CANCELED. SO THE 22ND THEN?

>> IS ANYTHING THAT THE COMMUNITY CAN DO TO HELP SUPPORT THE EFFORTS? IT SOUNDS TO ME, IS NOT A COURT COMMISSIONERS COURT HOLD UP. AND SO, WE ARE HERE TO HELP AS A COMMUNITY. WHATEVER IT TAKES.

FIRST OF ALL, BRING IT BACK WITH ACTION ON THE 20 WHAT?

>> SECOND. >> BACK TO COURT ON THE 22ND WITH ACTION ON THE AGENDA SO WE CAN ENGAGE.

THAT IS A GOOD SIGN FOR THE COMMUNITY.

THERE WAS LEFT, AND THE JUDICIAL JUDGES CHAMBERS TO ARTICULATE THE PROCESS AND THEIR STAFF.

>> AND I BEEN EXTREMELY IMPRESSED WITH YOU KNOW, THE CORPORATION THAT WE'VE RECEIVED AND THE ABILITY TO SIT THERE AND KIND OF GO THROUGH THIS PROCESS.

WE IDENTIFIED THINGS IN OUR CONVERSATIONS THAT WILL ENHANCE, DEFINITELY ENHANCE WHAT NDS TO DO.

AND WE GOT SOME REALLY GOOD THINGS AND DISCUSSIONS ESPECIALLY THE WORK THAT HE'S DONE CREATING THE COURT ABOUT CIVIL COMMITMENTS AND THINGS THAT ARE RELATED TO CASES TO CRIMINAL CASES AND WHERE THE PUBLIC DEFENDERS OFFICE COULD POTENTIALLY HELP AND ISSUES. FROM THOSE CONVERSATIONS, WE'VE COME UP WITH THINGS I THINK WILL ENHANCE, WE DIDN'T EVEN REALLY REALLY CONTEMPLATE WHEN WE STARTED THE PROCESS AND NDS SAID YES, WE SEE THAT BEFORE HERE SOLUTIONS.

WE HAVE HAD REALLY GOOD DISCUSSIONS AND I'VE BEEN VERY PLEASED WITH CORPORATION TO CONTINUE TO WORK ON GETTING SOMETHING THAT WORKS FOR HAYS COUNTY.

I THINK WILL UNDERSTAND WE HAVE TO DO EVERY SINGLE THING WE POSSIBLY CAN IN THE SITUATION. I BELIEVE EVERYONE IS ON BOARD

FOR THAT. >> GOOD.

FOR THOSE WATCHING, WE WERE BACK ON THE 22ND WITH ACTION.

SO WE CAN PUSH THIS OFF FINALLY, ONCE AND FOR ALL.

THANK YOU MR. KENNEDY. Q COMMISSIONER FOR GRADES PENETRATION WAY BACK WHEN WE STARTED AND I GUESS WE MOVE ON

FROM THERE. >> ACTUALLY, MYSELF AND NONE OF THE COMMISSIONER JONES WAS TO SAY ANYTHING, BUT AS PART OF THE DISCUSSION, I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY.

WHATEVER WE VOTED FOR NEIGHBORHOOD DEFENDER SERVICES THAT WAS A UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THE COURT.

AND SO, TWO CATEGORIES THIS IS NOT SUPPORTIVE OF THE CURRENT EFFORT, -- WOULD BE INACCURATE. I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY THAT BECAUSE AT THE END OF THE DAY, I MET WITH THEM YOU KNOW, MY COLLEAGUE COMMISSIONER INGALSBE AND I ATTENDED THE SAME WORKSHOP A COUPLE WEEKS AGO AND I THINK THE PRODUCT THAT CAME OUT OF THAT, OR THE PRODUCT THAT WILL COME OUT OF THAT, IS

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ON THE FRONT AND IT'S VERY OBVIOUS THAT I DID NOT SUPPORT A PDL, NEVER DID. BECAUSE I HAD SERIOUS CONCERNS WITH IMPLEMENTATION. AND SITTING DOWN AND ACTUALLY GOING THROUGH HOW THEY WOULD DO IT WITH A SPECIFIC, VERY SPECIFIC FOCUS ON MENTAL HEALTH, I AM SUPPORTIVE OF

[G26. Receive Responses from the Hays County Elections Administrator related to citizen queries about elections. BECERRA]

I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT BEFORE YOU MOVE ON.

>> THANK YOU. IF YOU WILL PLEASE OPEN G 26.

>> 226. SEE RESPONSES FROM THE HAYS COUNTY ELECTIONS ADMINISTRATOR, RELATED TO CITIZEN INQUIRIES

ABOUT ELECTIONS. >> OKAY BUT THIS AGENDA ITEM BECAUSE I HAVE BEEN VERY INTERESTED IN HEARING THE CONCERNS WE HAVE A, I HAVE A SERIOUS DESIRE AND INTEREST IN REPRESENTING EVERYONE'S CONCERNS.

WITH AGREE WITH THEM OR NOT. IT IS IMPORTANT AND I WORKED WITH GENERAL COUNSEL BRINGING THIS TO COURT SO WE COULD HAVE A CONVERSATION AND INITIAL QUESTIONS AND DO WHAT WE CAN TO PROVIDE SUPPORT FOR WHAT WE'RE DOING.

ÁTHE BEST SUMMARY I CAN COME UP WITH.

I WATCHED THE TESTING, I WAS THERE FOR THOSE THAT SPOKE OF THE PODIUM AND JUST TO BE HONEST, THAT IS MY BEST SPACE.

IT WASN'T A FAN OF THE RESULTS WHERE A SUPPOSEDLY TRANSPARENT PROCESS AND THEN, LET'S ALL LEAVE THE ROOM AND DO SOMETHING ELSE. WELL, WHAT IS IT WE ARE ALL SUPPOSED BE WITNESSING SOMETHING MOST COMPLETE AND TRANSPARENT. WHY IS ANYONE LEAVING THE ROOM? O I GET IT, GET THE CONCERN. THAT'S WHY I BROUGHT IT TO COURT AND I WANT US, IS NOT LIKE A SQUEAKY WHEEL, WE NEED TO JUDGE US AND I'M TRYING TO DO THIS VERY COMPLICATED SYSTEM. ON THE CHART ELECTIONS COMMISSION FOR CRYING OUT LOUD AND ELECTION BOARD AND THEY'RE JUST TRYING RATION OF GOVERNANCE ON ALL FRONTS.

AFTER PURCHASING WEIGHT IS MOST USEFUL.

I'M HOPING THIS WILL BE IT. MR. KENNEDY, THANK YOU FOR HELPING ME GET THIS ON THE AGENDA AND COMMISSIONER INGALSBE SUGGESTED AND IS A PERFECT IDEA, TO ADDRESS SOME OF THOSE QUESTION BY QUESTION AND HAVE THE QUESTIONS READ AND WE JUST SPEND THE TIME THEY DESERVE BECAUSE REALLY, THIS IS THE MOST AMERICAN THING ON THE PLANET.

REALLY, ELECTIONS. YOUR VOICE IS YOUR VOTE.

100 PERCENT IF YOU START READING THE FIRST ONE.

>> ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? >> NOT ON THIS AGENDA

SPECIFICALLY. >> OKAY I WANT TO MAKE SURE.

>> THIS IS FROM HAYS COUNTY ELECTIONS APPEARED RESPONSES TO CITIZEN COMMENTS REGARDING THE 2020 ELECTION.

THE FIRST CONCERN, EXPRESSED OVER WHAT APPEARS TO BE 57,829 VOTERS WHO VOTED IN 2020, THAT HAVE NOT, THAT HAVE THE SAME ELIGIBLE AND EFFECTIVE DATE. RESPONSE, THE USE OF THE TERM ELIGIBLE AND EFFECTIVE IS NOT REFLECTIVE OF WHAT THOSE TERMS ARE DEFINED AS IN THE TEXAS ELECTION CODE.

THEIR NATIONAL VOTER REGISTRATION VENDOR SO THE TERM IS NOT SPECIFIC TO ANY STATE. HAYS COUNTY HAS REQUESTED THAT THEY MODIFY THE REFERENCE BUT THAT HAS NOT BEEN RESOLVED AT THIS POINT IN TIME. THE EXPLANATION OF THE FORMATTING IS THAT BOTH DATES WILL STAY THE SAME FOR ALL NEW TO REGISTERED VOTERS UNTIL WHICH TIME, THE VOTER MAKES A CHANGE TO THE VOTER REGISTRATION ACCOUNT.

AND THEN THE EFFECTIVE DATE WILL BE AMENDED TO REFLECT THE CHANGE. TO HELP MAKE THIS CLEAR, HAYS COUNTY INTENDS TO ADD A COLUMN FOR ORIGINAL REGISTRATION DATE TO HELP MAKE THE LIST EASIER TO NAVIGATE.

AS STATED ABOVE, THERE ALSO LOOKING INTO A FORMAT CHANGE AS WELL. THE SECOND ITEM CONCERNS WERE EXPRESSED OVER WHAT APPEARS TO BE 9628 VOTERS WHO VOTED HAD AN ELIGIBLE DATE LESS THAN 30 DAYS BEFORE THE ELECTION.

THIS CATEGORY OF VOTERS CONSISTS OF VOTERS THAT HAVE HAD CHANGES MADE TO THEIR ACCOUNT.

VOTERS THAT HAVE REGISTERED AT 17 AND 10 MONTHS ELIGIBLE BY ELECTION DAY AND THREE, WHAT IS IT VOTED EARLY, WERE ALLEGEDLY BY ELECTION DAY. NUMBER THREE, CONCERNS FOR EXPRESS WHAT APPEARS TO BE 3799 INDIVIDUALS, VOTED AN EFFECTIVE

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THE ELECTIONS OFFICE STARTS PROCESSING CHANGES, STATEMENTS OF RESIDENCES, AND NEW VOTER REGISTRATION AS SOON AS AN ELECTION HAS CONCLUDED. TO DETERMINE WHAT CHANGES MADE TO A SPECIFIC BORDER RECORD, ONE WOUD NEED TO LOOK AT THE RECORDS ON A CASE-BY-CASE BASIS.

NEXT ITEM, CONCERNS WERE EXPRESSED ABOUT VOTER INFORMATION BEING LEAKED TO CHINA AND ELECTION SYSTEMS BEING CONNECTED TO THE INTERNET.

-- IS AN ELECTION MANAGEMENT SYSTEM THAT WAS ACCUSED OF DISCLOSING VOTER INFORMATION TO CHINA BY A NONPROFIT CALLED TRUE VOTE. -- HAS SINCE SUED THEM FOR DEFAMATION AND COMPUTER FRAUD. A LAWSUIT THAT IS STILL PENDING. POLE CHIEF UTILIZED BY TRAVIS COUNTY AND OTHER JURISDICTIONS. HAYS COUNTY DID NOT USE THEM.

THEY SEEM TO USE THAT AS ONE END OF THE SAME.

THEY ARE NOT.OLE CHIEF ELECTIONS MANAGEMENT SOFTWARE.

WHILE ELECTRONIC POLE BOOKS ARE PIECES OF HARDWARE USED TO ACCESS ROAD REGISTRATIONS AND TRACK ACTIVITY DURING THE ELECTION. HOWEVER, AND PERHAPS MOST IMPORTANTLY, POLL PADS ARE NOT ELECTION SYSTEMS. THEY WILL BE LOCATED AT POLLING LOCATIONS AND MAY BE CONNECTED TO THE INTERNET, ELECTION SYSTEMS, THE MACHINES USED FOR VOTING AND PRESERVING GARDEN BALLOTS ARE NOT CONNECTED TO THE INTERNET. NEXT, CONCERNS FOR EXPRESSED ABOUT 174 VOTERS HAVE HAD DUI -- NUMBER IN BOOK INTO DIFFERENT ON THE LITERAL SPIRIT FOR PROVISIONAL BALLOTS FOR VOTERS ARE NOT REGISTERED ANYWHERE IN TEXAS, THEY WILL NOT SSUED THAT NUMBER DURING THE CHECK-IN PROCESS.

THEY GET A CERTAIN NUMBER, ONLY IF THEY HAVE A BOOK IS ACCEPTED AND COUNTED WILL THEY GET THE VUID NUMBER BECAUSE THAT'S WHEN THEY REGISTER. CONCERNS EXPECT ABOUT 439 REGISTRATIONS. THAT ELECTION DAY REGISTRATIONS THAT APPEAR TO OCCUR AFTER NOVEMBER 3. THE RESPONSE.

PROVISIONALS EXCEPT FOR COUNTING ARE ACCEPTED AFTER NOVEMBER 3 BECAUSE THAT'S WHEN THEY ARE REGISTERED IN THE SYSTEM. NEXT, CONCERNS WERE EXPRESSED ABOUT VOTERS WHO VOTED IN 2020, BUT HAVE REGISTRATION DATE IN 2021 OR 2022. RESPONSE COMEDIES WOULD NEED TO BE ANALYZED ON A CASE-BY-CASE BASIS.

BUT IT IS LIKELY THAT A CHANGE TO THE REGISTRATION RECORD AFTER THE ELECTION, WHICH CHANGED THE EFFECTIVE DATE.

THIS WOULD NOT BE REFLECT ON THE CHECK-IN LIST.

ONE WHO COMPARES THE CHECK-IN LIST TO A SUBSEQUENT VOTER REGISTRATION LIST, WILL SEE A DIFFERENCE.

NEXT, CONCERNS WERE EXPRESSED ABOUT 662 INDIVIDUALS WHO DID NOT HAVE A VUID IN THE VOTER ROLE.

RESPONSE. THIS WILL BE PROVISIONAL BALLOTS THAT WERE NEVER ACCEPTED FOR COUNTING, SOME INDIVIDUALS WERE NEVER ISSUED A VUID NUMBER.

FINAL, CONCERNS WERE EXPRESSED ABOUT 459 VOTERS REGISTERED IN COUNTIES OTHER THAN HAYS COUNTY.

AND RESPONSE, THIS WOULD BE PROVISIONAL VOTERS WERE REGISTERED IN OTHER COUNTIES. THEIR VOTES WERE RECEIVED BUT

NOT ACCEPTED AND COUNTED. >> OKAY AND ALSO, THE CONCERNS ARE AS WE KNOW, STATEWIDE, REGIONAL, NO EXCEPTION, WE LITERALLY RUN ELECTIONS. IT IS FAIR GAME.

WE HAD OUR FIRST EVER DAY VOTING IN MY PHONE WAS BLOWN UP IN MY EMAIL WAS BLOWING UP WITH CONCERNS, POLL WATCHERS WAS ONE OF THEM. POLL WATCHERS INTIMIDATING FOLKS IN DRIPPING SPRINGS, INTIMIDATING FOLKS IN KYLE CITY HALL, INTIMIDATING AND OVERCROWDING ANIMALS DEBATING IF THEY SHOULD BE SO MANY POLL WATCHERS WERE SO MANY PEOPLE THAT ARE EMPLOYEES AT THE WORD RELOCATION INSIDE THE PLACE IS SO SMALL AND TIGHT. THIS IS ALL JUST YESTERDAY.

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AND I SAID YEAH, THEY CLOSED EARLY.

WAS IT ONE EXTRA VOTE? FIVE EXTRA MINUTES? THE POINT IS, THE CLOCK SAID THEY USING TIMES IN EVERYONE'S CELL PHONES AND WILL SYNCHRONIZED.

I BELIEVE WE WILL HAVE A LONG LIST OF CONCERNS ARE ALWAYS GOING TO BE IN THE HOPPER BUT I THINK WE SHOULD STRIVE AT EVERY TURN WITH EVERY OPPORTUNITY, TO PROVIDE COMFORT FOR THOSE TO TRUST OUR SYSTEM. ULTIMATELY, THAT'S MY GOAL AND I KNOW THAT TOO MANY POLL WORKERS ARE TOO MANY NONEMPLOYEES SITTING SO THE BURNER OFFERS AT THE ELECTION SITE, IS OF CONCERN BECAUSE SOME ARE CALLING INTIMIDATION ETC. THERE'S ALL KINDS OF PERSPECTIVES BUT I THINK WILL WANT THE SAME THING. EASY ACCESS, FREE OF TROUBLE AND ACCOUNTABILITY. WHAT ELSE CAN WE ADD ON THIS?

>> I THOUGHT IT WOULD BE IMPORTANT TO CREATE A PUBLIC RECORD OF THE RESPONSES. I KNOW THAT -- HAS HAD INDIVIDUAL CONVERSATIONS WITH FOLKS WITH QUESTIONS BUT TRYING TO CAPTURED AND PUT IN ONE PLACE IS IMPORTANT FOR PROMOTING A MORE GENERAL BELIEF THAT THE QUESTIONS ARE BEING ANSWERED. I THINK THAT HAS BEEN ACHIEVED.

>> THE WEBSITE YOU THINK? >> IF THE COURT SEES FIT.

WE COULD HAVE A FAQ THAT WE POST ON THE COUNTY WEBSITE SOMEWHERE. I THINK THAT COULD BE, WHETHER AND WHEN WE COULD ADD Q&A TO THAT IS AN OPEN QUESTION.

WE WORK TO PROVIDE THE ANSWERS TO THESE QUESTIONS, THERE MAY BE OTHERS OUT THERE. MAYBE VARIATIONS ON THESE QUESTIONS AND FOLLOW-UP QUESTIONS.

WHEN AND HOW WE CAN ANSWER THOSE, WILL DEPEND ON THE AVAILABILITY OF STAFF TIME TO DO SO.

IF THE COURT SEES FIT WE COULD TRY TO HAVE A DOCUMENT ONLINE.

CLASS COMMISSIONERS, WHAT'S YOUR TAKE? WE WILL START ON YOUR SIDE, COMMISSIONER INGALSBE.

WHAT DO YOU SUGGEST WE DO TO KEEP.

[INAUDIBLE] >> JUDGE, HOW TO APPRECIATE THE RESPONSES. I THINK IT IS, I WILL BE SUPPORTIVE OF THIS DOCUMENT BEING PLACED ON OUR WEBSITE.

AND AS MORE QUESTIONS COME IN, I THINK WE WOULD EXPECT THEM TO BE ANSWERED. AND, BUT I AGREE.

WE WANT THE INTEGRITY BACK OF OUR ELECTIONS.

I SAY BACK YOU KNOW, WE WAS ONE ELECTION INTEGRITY.

WE STRIVE FOR THAT AND WE NEED TO DO EVERYTHING WE CAN TO ENSURE THAT IS PROVIDED. NYTHING WE CAN DO TO HELP.

>> COMMISSIONER JONES? >> PERSON IS ON THE WEBSITE WOULD BE GOOD, FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS AND GET ANSWERS BUT I THINK WE STILL HAVE TO KEEP OPEN DIALOGUE WITH I THINK COMMISSIONER SHELL HAS BEEN MEETING WITH HER ON A VERY REGULAR BASIS AND OTHER, SOME PEOPLE BRINGING SOME THINGS FORWARD. HOPEFULLY THAT WILL CONTINUE.

AND AT SOME POINT, MARK, THESE QUESTIONS WERE APPROPRIATE FOR THE COMMISSIONERS COURT OR ELECTIONS COMMISSION?

>> ELECTIONS ADMINISTRATION HAS BEEN DOING AS BEST I THINK TO ANSWER THE QUESTIONS REAL-TIME. REASON HAD THE ITEM PUT IN COURT WAS TO CREATE PUBLIC RECORD BECAUSE -- TO ANSWER QUESTION, I THINK THESE ANSWERS HAVE TO COME FROM THE ELECTIONS OFFICE. THEY CAN'T FROM THE COMMISSIONERS COURT. IS THE OFFICE INDEPENDENTLY APPOINTED.HIS IS INEVITABLY A PART OF SOMEBODY AND THOSE TWO THINGS ARE SEPARATE. AS WE KNOW.

>> WERE ABOUT AS FAR AS OVERSIGHT OF THE OFFICE? IS MORE APPROPRIATE COME FROM THE COMMISSION?

>> WELL, THE COMMISSIONERS COURT DOES PLAY A ROLE IN THE OVERSIGHT. BUT AS YOU KNOW, COMMISSIONERS

COURT IS NOT THE ONLY BODY -- >> THANK YOU.

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AND IS VERY KNOWLEDGEABLE AND SOME OF THESE QUESTIONS, THE REGISTRATION ISSUE IS ONE THAT YOU KNOW, WE KIND OF GONE OVER SOME ISSUES LISTED. CONOVER LEONA DISCUSSIONS.

I THINK IT'S CLEAR THE SYSTEM WE ARE USING CAUSING CONFUSION WITH DATES SO HOW DO WE CHANGE THAT? PROVIDING ANSWERS GOOD. IT SHOWS THIS ELIGIBLE AND AFFECTED IS BECAUSE THAT'S THE WAY THE SYSTEM IS PRESENTING INFORMATION BASED ON THE SYSTEM.

THAT CAUSES THIS CONFUSION OBVIOUSLY.

ONE OF MY ASKED WAS, LET'S FIX THAT.

SO THAT YOU ACTUALLY CAN SEE THE DATE THAT THE PERSON WAS TECHNICALLY ELIGIBLE TO VOTE BASED UPON COMPLETING THE VOTER REGISTRATION. THAT IS ONE THING THAT THERE STILL IS WORK TO DO ON. I UNDERSTAND THERE ALSO ISSUES OF WHERE PEOPLE REGISTER AND RECEIVE THAT WITH DPS.

SOMETIMES WHEN WE GET THE INFORMATION, THEY SHOW UP TO VOTE. OBVIOUSLY, THAT CAN END UP THEN VOTING IS A PROVISIONAL AND ONCE WE DETERMINE THEY WERE ELIGIBLE, THEY ARE AND HOW IT'S BEEN REFLECTED IN THE SYSTEM CAN CAUSE CONFUSION SO THAT'S ANOTHER ISSUE, ONE IS TO FIX WITH HOW THAT'S PRESENTED. YOU KNOW, THE EQUIPMENT ITSELF IN GENERAL, I WAS HERE FOR THE SELECTION OF THE EQUIPMENT.

I LIKE THE EQUIPMENT BECAUSE IT PRODUCES A PAPER BALLOT THAT YOU ACTUALLY GET TO SEE BEFORE IT IS PUT IN THE SCANNER.

AND ALSO LOOKING TO PUT IN A SCANNER AND IS A COMPUTER SOFTWARE THAT CHANGES WHAT MY VOTE IS.

BUT THE GOOD THING IS WE HAVE EVERY BALLOT THAT EVERY INDIVIDUAL PRINTED AND THEY LOOK AT WHO THEY VOTED FOR.

THEY PUT IT IN A SCANNER AND IT'S IN A BOX.

ONE OF THE REASONS I WAS VERY SUPPORTIVE OF THAT EQUIPMENT WAS THAT REDUNDANCY OF HAVING, THAT WE COULD PULL UP AND I WAS ALSO INVOLVED IN AN ELECTION WHERE A WIN BY VERY SLIM MARGIN, AND WE DID HAVE A RECOUNT OF THE MAIL-IN BALLOTS.

SO, I GOT TO WITNESS PART OF THAT PROCESS.

AND SEE HOW THE MAIL-IN BALLOTS ARE HANDLED BY THE BALLOT BOARD AND WHICH ONES WERE COUNTED AND WHICH ONES WEREN'T.

AND SO, I DID HAVE A LITTLE MORE EXPERIENCE BUT THAT IS A LOT OF WORK DONE WITH THOSE PAPER BALLOTS.

I THINK ONE OF THE OTHER IMPROVEMENTS IS, HOW CAN WE MAKE THAT PROCESS BETTER IF WE'RE GOING TO BE RECEIVING THE VOLUME OF MAIL-IN BALLOTS, HOW CAN WE BEST ORGANIZE THAT PROCESS? ONE OF THE ANSWERS TO PART OF THAT IS SPACE. SPACE IS NEEDED IN ORDER TO DO THAT IN A BETTER WAY AND MORE TRANSPARENT WAY WHICH WE ARE ALL WORKING TOWARDS PROVIDING IN THE SPACE AS WE KNOW.

I'M JUST TRYING TO HAVE SOME OF THE ISSUES THAT HAVE BEEN BROUGHT UP. BUT I THINK A LOT OF THIS HAS TO DO WITH HOW WE PRESENT INFORMATION TO OUR CITIZENS CAN SEE IT AND THEN HAVE THAT CONFIDENCE THAT YES, THIS INDIVIDUAL ISN'T, DID JUST GET REGISTERED TO VOTE IN TODAY'S, WHICH OBVIOUSLY WOULD NOT BE LEGAL.

THEY ACTUALLY DID FILL IN A FORM, RECENT SHOWS THIS IS BECAUSE OF THE SOFTWARE, LET'S GET THE SOFTWARE TO CHANGE HOW IT'S REPRESENTED. THE ANSWER I AGREE WITH, POST ANYTHING AND ANY FACTUAL POSSIBLY CANCEL PEOPLE CAN READ THEM AND IF THEY FOR THE QUESTIONS THEN WE CAN GET MORE INTO THE DETAILS EXACTLY WHAT THAT IS.

ESPECIALLY WITH THE VO-TECH SYSTEM IS POPPING UP SEVERAL DIFFERENT TIMES OR HOW THAT IS PRESENTING INFORMATION.

I HAVE A LOT OF CONFIDENCE IN OUR STAFF AND AGAIN, JENNIFER DOES A GOOD JOB. JEFF HAS BEEN DOING THIS FOR A LONG TIME AND ALL THE MEETINGS I'VE HAD WITH CITIZENS, I THINK THEY'RE DOING THEIR BEST TO TRY AND EXPLAIN WHY SOME OF THIS LOOKS THE WAY IT DOES. I THINK WE NEED TO CONTINUE TO DO BETTER JOB ON HOW WE PRESENT THAT, COMMUNICATE THAT AND HOW WE APPROVE THE PROCESS AND GO BACK A FEW YEARS.

WE'VE MADE A LOT OF IMPROVEMENTS TO THE PROCESS.

AND CREATING REDUNDANCY THAT THINGS CAN BE CHECKED AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO CONTINUE TO DO.

SO THAT THE INFORMATION IS PRESENTED IN THE BEST WAY

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AND THE CITIZENS. >> COMMISSIONER?

>> THANK YOU JUDGE. I MET WITH A NUMBER OF GROUPS RELATIVE TO THIS AND SMALL, NO CATEGORIES THEM ARE SMALL CHANGES THAT WE MADE THIS TIME, EVEN JUST IN THE LAST ELECTION WE HAD OUR JUDGES SUNNY BALLOTS WHICH THEY SHOULD'VE BEEN DOING BEFORE, THIS WILL GOT TO REALIZE BALLOTS WHICH ARE NUMBER BALLOTS WHICH WE SHOULD HAVE BEEN DOING BEFORE.

AND ONE OF THE THING SITTING DOWN WITH LOOKING AT THE DATA I'M MORE INTERESTED IN SEEING ADDITIONAL DATA, WE TALKED ABOUT THIS BEFORE LOOKING AT HOW IT IS PRESENTED IS THE HARDEST PART. I DO SAY THAT LIGHTLY.

THE COMMISSIONER SHALL APPOINT, THE HARDEST PART IS GETTING THE DATA ACTUALLY REVIEW AND LOOK AT AND IN A FORM THAT IS USABLE. I KNOW IT MAY SOUND CONFUSING TO SOMEBODY THAT HASN'T PAID ATTENTION HAS BEEN WATCHING THIS BUT IT TAKES, WE DON'T HAVE JUST A TON OF STAFF IN ELECTIONS OFFICE. WE, THEY RUN A PRETTY SLIM SHIP OVER THERE AND WHENEVER I SAY THAT, FOR EXAMPLE TODAY, EVERYBODY THAT THEY'VE WORKING FOR THEM IS OUT IN THE FIELD OR WORKING IN THE OFFICE AND IT IS EXCEEDINGLY BUSY.

BRING ON TEMPORARY FOCUS FOR ELECTION DAY AND PULLING BUT THE FACT IS THAT IN ORDER TO PULL THE INFORMATION TOGETHER THAT IS REALLY NEEDED THAT CITIZENS OF ASFOOR, IT TAKES DAYS OF WORKLOAD FOR SOME OF THOSE EMPLOYEES THAT WE MADE -- WE MAY JUST NOT HAVE SO WHAT I'M WILLING TO DO IS NUMBER ONE, TWO COMMISSIONER SHELLS POINT, WE LOOKING AT HOW THE DATA IS AVAILABLE AND COMMITTING TO TRY AND GET SYSTEMS IN PLACE WHERE WE ASKED FOR THAT DATA, ON THE TECHNICAL SIDE IT IS EASIER FOR US TO BE NUMBER ONE IS DIGESTIBLE AND DATA THAT YOU CAN ACTUALLY USE WHEN TO GET IT BY GETTING A SYSTEM WHERE WE CAN ACTUALLY GET THE DATA QUICKER, AND DOING IT AND WE WERE DOZEN IMPACT STAFFING, I'M COMMITTED TO AND IF IT TAKES ADDITIONAL STAFF OR SYSTEM BY WHICH TO DO THAT, I'M MORE WILLING TO BE SUPPORTIVE OF THAT.

I THINK WERE TO GET THROUGH THE NEXT TWO WEEKS.

WE WILL NOT SOLVE THIS PROBLEM BY THE SECOND TUESDAY IN NOVEMBER THIS YEAR. BUT IT IS AN ONGOING ISSUE I

WANT TO SEE THROUGH. >> OKAY.

WHAT I'VE HEARD SO FAR MR. KENNEDY IS COMMONLY SHOULD BE POSTED ON THE WEBSITE. TO SHARE WITH THE PUBLIC AND AS BEST WE CAN, IF NUANCE SURFACE WOULD CONTINUE TO POPULATE PAT.

THEIR CONCERNS AND THESE ARE THE ANSWERS OF THOSE CONCERNS AND WITH NEW ONES, WE WILL DO THE BEST TO ADDRESS THEM AS WELL. I HOPE THAT HELPS AT THIS POINT IN TIME. WE HAVE THE HEAD'S UP THAT THE ELECTIONS ADMINISTRATOR MAY NOT BE HERE BECAUSE WE'RE IN THE MIDDLE OF ELECTIONS. IT IS WHAT WE HAVE FOR RIGHT NOW AND WE WILL KEEP MOVING, THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONTINUED SUPPORT. THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONTINUED WATCH OF OUR BACKBONE AS A COUNTRY.

BUT IF WE DON'T ENGAGE IT WON'T BE THERE FOR US SO THANK YOU.

I'M GOING TO OPEN UP THE AGENDA SO WE CAN KEEP MOVING.

WHAT DO YOU THINK? MISCELLANEOUS.

[K3. Discussion and possible action to authorize renewal of Hays County Auto Liabilty, Auto Physical Damage, General Liability, Law Enforcement Liability, and Public Official Liability coverage. The annual renewal premium is $499,084.00 BECERRA/MILLER]

PLEASE OPEN K-3. >> K-3, BEING REMOVED.

>> THAT SOMEONE REMOVED? >> I'M SORRY K-3.

>> SORRY. K-3, DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION TO AUTHORIZE RENEWAL OF CASE COUNTY AUTO LIABILITY AUTO PHYSICAL DAMAGE, GENERAL LIABILITY, LAW ENFORCEMENT LIABILITY AND PUBLIC OFFICIAL LIABILITY COVERAGE.

THE ANNUAL RENEWAL PREMIUM IS $499,084.00.

>> THANK YOU. >> SO MOVED.> COMPUTER.

>> THANK YOU. HR DIRECTOR.

[INAUDIBLE] OUR RISK MANAGEMENT SPECIALIST WHO ASSISTS US IN REVIEWING LIABILITY COVERAGES TO ENSURE THAT WE ARE NOT AT RISK AND TO ENSURE THAT WE ARE COVERING AND ASSURING ALL THE PROPERTIES. THIS PARTICULAR COVERAGE OF

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AND PROVIDES THE PUBLIC OFFICIAL AND GENERAL LIABILITY.

THIS IS A STANDARD RENEWAL THAT WE DO EVERY YEAR WITH THE ADDITION OF AUTO PHYSICAL DAMAGE.

WE HAVE ENSURED A SMALL NUMBER OF VEHICLES FOR AUTO PHYSICAL DAMAGE WHICH MEANS WE HAVE COVERAGE IF WE DAMAGE THE VEHICLE AND WE ARE AT FAULT. IT WOULD BE ANYONE ELSE'S INSURANCE TO CLAIM FOR REPAIR. WE WILL BE EXPERIENCE SOME OF THE SITUATIONS AND WE WILL TRYING THEIR BEST TO REPAIR VEHICLES INTERNALLY WITH OUT THE USE OF LIABILITY COVERAGE FOR PROPERTY DAMAGE COVERAGE, TO HELP COMPENSATE FOR THE REPAIR COST. AND WE HAVE DONE A COST ANALYSIS BOTH WITH TAC AND BUDGET OFFICER TO ENSURE ADDITIONAL COVERAGE WE ARE REQUESTING IS FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE FOR THE COUNTY TO ADD I THINK IT IS OVER 143 VEHICLES TO THAT TYPE OF COVERAGE.

QUESTIONS FOR THE VIEWING PUBLIC COMMISSAR TO CHIME IN BUT TAC, TEXAS ASSOCIATION OF COUNTIES.OR THOSE FOLLOWING

ALONG. >> YES TEXAS ASSOCIATION OF COUNTIES.HEY ARE A SUPPORT ENTITY AND IT IS WHO WE HAVE OUR LIABILITY COVERAGE WITH RIGHT NOW.

>> WHAT IS THE INCREASED AMOUNT FOR THOSE 143 VEHICLES?

>> ABOUT 45,000. FOR THE PREMIUM.

THE TOTAL INCREASE FOR ALL OF THE POLICY COVERAGES PRESENTED TO YOU TODAY, IS ABOUT 54,000. AND A LOT OF THAT TIES TO THE NUMBER OF EMPLOYEES THAT WE HAVE.

>> WRITE SOME OF THAT WAS INCREASE IN EMPLOYEES.

>> AND QUESTIONS PEOPLE ARE THINKING SOMETIMES, HOW COMPETITIVE IS THIS COMPARED TO GOING TO A PRIVATE ENTITY?

>> WE DID NOT NECESSARILY -- LAST YEAR WE DID HAVE LIABILITY LOOKED AT BY A THIRD PARTY AND WE ARE STILL RECEIVING THE BEST

COVERAGE FOR THE BEST PREMIUM. >> THAT'S WHAT I WANTED TO HAVE YOU SAY ON THE RECORD. AND SINCE HE SAT THROUGH THE FIRST PORTION OF OUR COURT WOULD LIKE TO SAY A FEW WORDS?

>> SHARE, RISK MANAGEMENT CONSULTANT WITH THE TEXAS ASSOCIATION OF COUNTIES. I LIKE TO COMMEND SHERRY IN HER OFFICE STAFF FOR ALL THE HARD WORK THAT YOU DO BEHIND THE SCENES BECAUSE THEY DID A VERY THOROUGH RISK ANALYSIS I BELIEVE WE ALSO WORKED WITH THE BUDGET OFFICER.

THE COST SAVINGS IS THERE AND IT OFFSETS THE CUSTOM PREMIUMS.

>> WE JUST TALKED ABOUT THAT. >> COMMISSIONERS COMMENTS OR

QUESTIONS? >> JUST TO VICKY.

WE HAVE THE ANALYSIS TO TAKE A LOOK AT WHAT WE'VE BEEN SAYING ON REPAIRS. FOR INSTANCE, ON PROPERTY DAMAGE, TO SEE WE BEEN SPENDING SORT OF AN AVERAGE OR TRENDING TO SPEND VERSUS THE PREMIUM COST FOR THE VEHICLES.

>> YES SIR. VICKY, HAYS COUNTY BUDGET OFFICER. IN 2021, THERE WERE 17 VEHICLES THAT WERE DAMAGED. FOR A COST OF JUST UNDER 62,000 FOR REPAIRS. IN 2022, THERE WERE 19 VEHICLES DAMAGED WITH THE COST OF JUST UNDER 85,000 FOR REPAIRS.

THERE WERE ALSO, SIX VEHICLES THAT WERE TOTALED, THAT WERE

NOT REPAIRABLE. >> WHAT ABOUT THE OLDER ONES?

-- >> TWO OF THOSE WERE THE LEASED VEHICLES. BECAUSE WE WOULD'VE CALLED OURSELVES SELF-INSURING AT THAT POINT.

WE LIABILITY COVERAGE VEHICLES DAMAGES OUR RESPONSIBILITY TO REPAIR FOR TAX DOLLARS. THIS CASE WE ARE PAYING FOR THE PREMIUM TO INCLUDE THE NUMBER OF THOSE VEHICLES ONTO OUR POLICY, THEN WE WILL GET REIMBURSEMENT FROM INSURANCE.

AND HOPEFULLY PREMIUM IS LESS THAN WHAT WE ARE SPENDING.

>> CORRECT THOSE IN THE EXPENSES COMING OUT OF THE DEPARTMENT VEHICLE MAINTENANCE AND REPAIR BUDGETS.

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>> THE ADDITIONAL PREMIUM -- >> PREMIUM IS 45,000.

VEHICLES NEED REPAIR, MORE THAN 2500 WILL BE 25,000.

TECHNICALLY, THAT WILL BE THE COST.

>> CORRECT. >> VERSUS THE 85,000 RANGE.

>> AND VEHICLES ARE APPROXIMATELY 110,000 FOR THE SIX TOTAL VEHICLES IN THE PAST TWO YEARS.

>> THANK YOU. >> WE NEED TO DO DEFENSIVE DRIVING FOR SOME OF THOSE PEOPLE I GUESS.

>> WE DO HAVE PRACTICES IN PLACE IN THE COUNTY.

WHEN THERE ARE DRIVER SITUATIONS.

THIS PARTICULAR DOES HAVE AN EXCELLENT REVIEW BOARD, SO THE

AXES DON'T JUST HAPPEN AND -- >> THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK AND THANK YOU TAC, YOU ARE A MAGNIFICENT ORGANIST.

AM I DISAPPOINTED THAT THE GOVERNMENT CONTINUES TO TRY TO YANK THE SUPPORT INSTRUMENT AVAILABLE TO US, I AM DISAPPOINTED THAT THE STATE GOVERNMENT IS STILL TRYING TO

TAKE THAT AWAY FROM US. >> THANK YOU FOR YOUR ROUTE

SUPPORT. >> THANK YOU.

CALL THE ROLL.

[CONSENT ITEMS]

>> PLEASE OPEN CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS. MINUS 26. AS A WARNING, SEQUENCES OFF ON

THE AGENDA GOES FROM 26 TO 31. >> CONSENT ITEMS. APPROVE PAYMENTS OF COUNTY INVOICES. APPROVE THE PAYMENT OF JUROR CHECKS. APPROVE THE PAYMENT OF UNITED HEALTHCARE CLAIMS. APPROVE COMMISSIONERS COURT MINUTES OF SEPTEMBER 20, 2022, SEPTEMBER 27, 2022 AND OCTOBER 11, 2022. APPROVE THE PAYMENT OF THE OCTOBER 31, 2022 PAYROLL DISBURSEMENTS IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $4,300,000.00 EFFECTIVE OCTOBER 31, 2022 AND POST TOTALS FOR WAGES, WITHHOLDINGS, DEDUCTIONS AND BENEFITS ON THE HAYS COUNTY WEBSITE ONCE FINALIZED.

AUTHORIZE A RENEWAL CONTRACT WITH WEST THOMSON REUTERS FOR LEGAL RESEARCH RESOURCES FOR THE OFFICE OF THE HAYS COUNTY CRIMINAL DISTRICT ATTORNEY AND AUTHORIZE A DISCRETIONARY EXEMPTION PURSUANT TO TEXAS LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE, CH.

262.024 (A)(7)(B). AUTHORIZE THE COUNTY JUDGE TO EXECUTE AN INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT BETWEEN HAYS COUNTY AND THE TEXAS A&M AGRILIFE EXTENSION SERVICE FOR THE FERAL HOG ABATEMENT PROGRAM IN THE AMOUNT OF $7,500.00. AUTHORIZE THE PARKS DEPARTMENT TO PURCHASE TWO 12X24 METAL UTILITY SHEDS FOR THE STORAGE OF TOOLS AND SUPPLIES AT SENTINEL PEAK IN THE AMOUNT OF $9,320.00 ($4,660 EACH) AND AMEND THE BUDGET ACCORDINGLY.

AUTHORIZE BUILDING MAINTENANCE TO PURCHASE THREE (3) NEW AUTOMATED EXTERNAL DEFIBRILLATORS (AEDS) FOR HAYS COUNTY BUILDINGS IN THE AMOUNT OF $6,535.02 AND AMEND THE BUDGET ACCORDINGLY. AUTHORIZE THE ACCEPTANCE OF A GRANT AWARD FROM THE OFFICE OF THE GOVERNOR, STATE HOMELAND SECURITY GRANT PROGRAM IN THE AMOUNT OF $10,000.00 RELATED TO HAZMAT EQUIPMENT MONITORING. AUTHORIZE THE LOCAL HEALTH DEPARTMENT TO PURCHASE A YEAR SUBSCRIPTION TO JOTFORM IN THE AMOUNT OF $15,000.00 FOR QUESTIONNAIRE AND SURVEY SERVICES NEEDED BY THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT AND AMEND THE BUDGET ACCORDINGLY. APPROVE SPECIFICATIONS FOR IFB 2023-B06 CULVERTS AND AUTHORIZE PURCHASING TO SOLICIT FOR BIDS AND ADVERTISE. APPROVE SPECIFICATIONS FOR IFB 2023-B05 ROAD BUILDING MATERIALS - COLD MIX AND AUTHORIZE PURCHASING TO SOLICIT FOR BIDS AND ADVERTISE. APPROVE SPECIFICATIONS FOR IFB 2023-B04 ROAD BUILDING MATERIALS - HOT MIX AND AUTHORIZE PURCHASING TO SOLICIT FOR BIDS AND ADVERTISE. AMEND

[02:20:03]

PROGRAM. >> SO MOVED.

>> SECOND. >> ANYTHING TO TAKE OUT?

>> I WOULD LIKE TO PULL G 19. SORRY SHE HAD TO LEAD WITH EARLY BUT ANGELA KENNEDY WILL BE REPLACING JOHN -- AS A VOTING MEMBER ON THE TAC. I WANT TO THANK JOHN FOR HIS SERVICE BUT ANGELA WILL DO A GREAT JOB.

HE'S ALSO TAKING OVER FOR HIM WITH THE CITY OF BUDA.

SHE WILL BE A GREAT ADDITION TO THE GROUP.

I LIKE TO THANK HER, I'M SORRY SHORTLY BEFORE THAT.

AND ON 22, LIKE TO THANK BRUCE SNYDER FOR SERVICE ON THE BOARD. THIS IS A BOARD THAT PEOPLE ON THERE NOW WERE FOUNDING MEMBERS OF THE BOARD HE IS A LONG TIME RESIDENT AND WAS A GOOD MEMBER FOR THE BOARD.

WE APPRECIATE HIS SERVICE AND WE KNOW THAT -- WILL DO A GOOD JOB. IF THE EMS BOARD AND SHE'S AN EMERGENCY NURSE AND HAS A LOT OF EXPERIENCE.

WE ARE HAPPY SHE'S ACCEPTED THAT.

>> JUDGE, I JUST WANTED SOMEBODY ELSE MAY WANT TO SAY THIS ALSO BUT I WANTED TO THANK THE ESTATE OF FRANKLIN SEARS AND THE SEARS FAMILY FOR THEIR GENEROSITY.

IT IS WONDERFUL THAT THEY DID WHAT THEY DID.

FOR EMERGENCY SERVICES. >> I AGREE 100 PERCENT.

>> I'VE GOT A COUPLE ON G 16. I WANT TO THANK STAFF, I KNOW THAT SPECIFICALLY, -- SERVICES AND CONDUIT OPERATIONS ON THE WORK THAT THEY'VE DONE ON THE CONTRACT WITH TEXAS WATER

[02:25:05]

I APPRECIATE THAT. I KNOW IT'S NOT EASY WHENEVER WE HAVE TO WORK WITH OTHER ENTITIES ON THE GRANT.

THE OTHER THING I HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS ABOUT IS G 15.

YOUR REIMBURSEMENT ON YOUR TRIP TO HASKELL COUNTY.

IN OUR CONTRACT, I THINK IT OUTLINES HOW OR WHEN WE WOULD DO THOSE VISITS. IN THE NOTIFICATION WAS GIVEN IS MY UNDERSTANDING JUST A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS, DID, WAS A NOTIFICATION GIVEN ALL TO HASKELL COUNTY IN THE CONTRACT THAT YOU WILL BE THERE? OR DID YOU SELECT THE MEETING

PRIOR TO GOING THERE? >> NO, I SHOWED UP TO VISIT THE SITE, SEE WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE, SEE WITH THE TRANSPORTATION VEHICLES WILL APPEAR JUST A GENERAL OVERVIEW OF THE ASSESSMENT. PREPARED NOT TO HAVE THE WARDEN GREET ME. PREPARED NOT PUTTING PRESSURE ON ANYWAY IN THE WARDEN THAT MET WITH ME.

WAS VERY FRIENDLY AND VERY ACCOMMODATING AND DEDICATED TIME. I DID THAT TO SEE WHAT WAS GOING ON, TO KICK THE TIRES AND IT WAS OF ZERO DISRUPTION.

>> OKAY JUDGE, DID YOU GO BY YOURSELF? OR DID YOU TAKE ANYBODY FROM OUTSIDE ORGANIZATION WITH YOU?

>> I TOOK SOME WITH ME, YES SIR.

>> THE SPECIAL-INTEREST GROUP HE TOOK SOMEONE WITH YOU FROM, WHO WAS THAT? AND WHERE THEY INTRODUCED AS AN

EMPLOYEE OF THE COUNTY OR NOT? >> I'M NOT SURE WHERE YOU'RE

GOING WITH THIS. >> IS A VERSATILE QUESTION.

DID YOU INTRODUCE THEM AS AN EMPLOYEE OF THE COUNTY?

>> I TOOK A VOLUNTEER WITH ME, WAS NEVER INTRODUCED AS AN

EMPLOYEE OF THE COUNTY. >> VOLUNTEER FOR THE COUNTY?

OR VOLUNTEER -- >> VOLUNTEER FOR MY OFFICE.>

OFFICE. >> VOLUNTEER, ABSOLUTELY.

WHAT'S THE PROBLEM? >> I DON'T WANT TO GET TO THE BUSINESS OF PAYING FOR TRAVEL FOR OUTSIDE ORGANIZATIONS.

>> NO, YOU'RE NOT. YOU ARE NOT.

>> DID YOU TAKE AN OUTSIDE ORGANIZATION THERE TO VIEW THE JAIL? IT'S A VERSATILE QUESTION.

QUESTION IS A VERY SIMPLE ANSWER, NO.

I TOOK A VOLUNTEER FOR MY OFFICE.

AND THAT WASFOR ME. IT WAS EXPENSIVE I WENT THROUGH AND TRUST ME, I VOLUNTEER MY OFFICE , THERE ARE MANY.

>> IN WHAT CAPACITY DO THEY -- >> DO YOU WANT TO HAVE A SEPARATE CONVERSATION SO WE DO NOT TIE EVERYONE ELSE UP?

>> NO I WANT TO HAVE A HERE WHERE WE ARE VOTING ON WHETHER OR NOT WE WILL PAY FOR THIS RIGHT NOW.

>> IF I WAS IN THE CAR BY MYSELF A BETTER PERSON WITH ME

WAS THE SAME EXPENSE. >> MY POINT IS, UNDER CONTRACT WE CURRENTLY HAVE, IT SETS THE PARAMETERS AND HOW WE WOULD DO THAT. IF YOU LOOK AT THE JUSTIFICATION THAT YOU PUT IN THERE, IT'S AS YOU WENT THERE SPECIFICALLY FOR MEETINGS. WHICH YOU DIDN'T HAVE MEETINGS SET UP WHEN HE WENT THERE. IF I WANT TO DRIVE TO HOUSTON TO VIEW ONE OF OUR, OR DRIVE TO RED RIVER COUNTY, TO BE THE SITUATION THERE, THE FIRST THING I WOULD DO IS LOOK AT WHAT OUR POLICY WAS, AND IF WE HAD A CONTRACT WITH THOSE FOLKS AND HOW WE WENT ABOUT THAT. AND IF SHE WOULDN'T EXPECT THE COUNTY TO PICK UP MY TAB IF I DIDN'T FOLLOW WHAT THE GUIDELINES THAT WE HAD SET OUT. DOES THAT NOT SOUND -- INITIALLY WHEN TAKEN OUTSIDE ORGANIZATION WITH ME.

THAT HAS A DOG IN THE FIGHT. QUESTION AFTER QUESTION IT WAS VERY SIMPLE, I PROVIDED SIMPLE AND DIRECT INTERVIEW CONTINUED TO TAKE AN ALTERNATIVE RESPONSE.

A VOLUNTEER FROM MY OFFICE. >> AND WHO WAS THAT IF IS A

VOLUNTEER FROM YOUR OFFICE? >> THAT IS A MOOT POINT.

>> OKAY SO, JUDGE, YOU CAN DANCE AROUND IT.

THE FACT IS, HE TOOK AN OUTSIDE ORGANIZATION THAT HAS A DOG IN THE FIGHT, RELATIVE TO THIS. IT IS AN ADVOCACY GROUP.

YOU TOOK THEM TO VIEW A FUNCTION OF THE COUNTY, AND YOU'RE TRYING TO PAY FOR THE EXPENSE TO TAKE THOSE FOLKS THERE. AND I'M NOT WILLING TO DO THAT.

>> YOU MISCHARACTERIZED WHAT I HAVE DONE.

>> IF I TOOK, IF I DECIDE TO GO TO AUSTIN AND IT TOOK SOMEONE FROM I DON'T KNOW, THE REPUBLICAN PARTY OR PERHAPS, ONE OF THESE ELECTION INTEGRITY FOLKS.

TO VIEW AND I CHOSE TO DO IT WITHOUT SETTING UP A MEETING, I TOOK ONE OF HIS PRIVATE CITIZENS FROM ELECTION

[02:30:02]

>> BRING IT TO COURT AND WE WILL DISCUSS IT.

>> I CAN TELL YOU I WOULD NEVER ASK FOR IT BECAUSE IT'S NOT WHAT WE DO. AND WITH THAT I LEFT AT 15 BE

VOTED ON SEPARATELY. >> DO WE HAVE A SECOND TO VOTE

FOR THAT SEPARATELY? >> I CAN.

>> PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. ON THAT MOTION.

IS OR WHAT'S GOING ON. >> I CAN EXPLAIN.

MY CONCERN IS THAT WE HAVE AN ORGANIZATION OUT THERE THAT IS SPECIFICALLY, VERY CONCERNED, RIGHT OR WRONG, WITH THE FUNCTIONALITY OF THE JAIL. HIS VIGOROUS MISCHARACTERIZATIONS AND MANY OF THE STATEMENTS ABOUT HOW OUR JAIL OPERATES IN ABOUT ACTIONS THAT OCCURRED IN THE JAIL.

FOR EXAMPLE, THERE IS A STATEMENT THAT YOU KNOW, PRISONERS WERE AT GUNPOINT. THAT IS JUST NOT TRUE.

ONE OF THE PRISONERS ARE MOVED, OUR OFFICES HAVE BODY CAMS ON THEM NEVER TAKE A GUN. IT IS VERY RARE THAT A GUN EVEN MAKES IT TO THE JOB BECAUSE OF SAFETY CONCERNS FOR THE OFFICERS. TO HAVE A MEDIA AND MEDIA ORGANIZER FOR AN OUTSIDE ORGANIZATION, AND SPECIFICALLY PAY, COUNTY PAY TO TAKE A LOOK AT FACILITIES OR HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT. THE PERSON WHO PRESENTED THEMSELVES AS A VOLUNTEER OR PRESENTED AS A VOLUNTEER IS EITHER AN EMPLOYEE OR VOLUNTEER.

>> NOT AN EMPLOYEE. >> THAT'S WHY SAID VOLUNTEER.

SO, SHE CHECKED HER. >> SHE IS NOT AN EMPLOYEE OF THE ORGANIZATION. SHE IS A VOLUNTEER FOR ME.

AND I TOOK THIS TRIP IN MY CAR. YOU ARE SAYING I SHOULDN'T HAVE

DONE THAT? >> SHE LIFTS HER SELF IS REPRESENTED FOR THE ORGANIZATION.

AND SO, AS A REPRESENTATIVE FOR THE ORGANIZATION, I DON'T SEE WE SHOULD BE PAYING FOR THAT. IF THEY WANTED, IF YOU WANT TO LET US BARBARA NOT PAYING TRAVEL FOR SOMEONE WHO IS NOT A COUNTY EMPLOYEE. WHO IS PART OF AN OUTSIDE ORGANIZATION YOU KNOW, I JUST DON'T SUPPORT THAT.

AND SO THAT'S THE REASON I BROUGHT IT UP SEPARATELY.

AND WITH THAT, FINE WITH THE VOTE.

AND AS ANY OF THE QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE COMMISSIONER, THAT CAN BE HELPFUL WITH? [INAUDIBLE]

>> MAY BE QUESTIONING FOR MARK IF WE'RE GOING TO DO THAT IF WE

MOVE IN ON IT SEPARATELY. >> HAVE NO PROBLEM WHETHER I AGREE WITH YOU ARE NOT, I THINK IT BEST TO BE A FUNCTIONING CHAIR OF THIS EFFORT. I PROMISE.E HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND TO PULL THE ITEM NOT AND VOTE SEPARATELY.

WE WILL JUST GO WITH THAT WE WILL PULL IT OUT.

AND SO, VOTE ON THE REST AND THEY WILL COME BACK AND VOTE ON

THAT ONE. >> THAT IS NOTHING RARE FOR US TO VOTE ON. WE BREAK THINGS INTO

CATEGORIES. >> THAT'S FINE.

>> I HAVE NO -- >> WE VOTE ON THINGS INDIVIDUALLY AT TIMES. MY QUESTION FOR VICKY, THIS APPROVAL IS FOR BUDGET AMENDMENT.

IS THAT CORRECT? >> THAT IS CORRECT.

THE COUNTY JUDGE HAS TRAVEL BUDGET WITH AN OPERATING BUDGET. SO, HE IS WANTING TO MOVE THE CONTINUING EDUCATION EXPENSE TO THE LINE ITEM.

TO REIMBURSED FOR MILEAGE STARTING AT THE COUNTY LINE PER POLICY AND THE COUNTY LINE PASCO COUNTY AND BACK.

>> AND IT IS MONEY FROM WITHIN MY OFFICE.

>> A MEMBER JUDGE, HE CAME BACK TO THE COURT AND ASKED FOR

ADDITIONAL FUNDS FOR EDUCATION. >> WE HAVE A MOTION.

>> PLEASE DON'T -- >> I'M TRYING TO KEEP THIS GOING IN A CONSTRUCTIVE MANNER. YOU HAVE THE ITEM IN JUST A SECOND BY ITSELF TO EXTEND YOUR THOUGHTS FURTHER.

PLEASE CALL THE ROLL ON THE CONSENT.

>> I DON'T RECEIVE REIMBURSEMENT FOR ANY TROUBLE.

WE RECEIVE A TRAVEL ALLOWANCE AS PART OF OUR SALARY, WHICH I USED TO REIMBURSE MYSELF FOR ALL TROUBLE.

THERE WOULD BE AN COUNTY, OUT OF COUNTY, HOTELS, MILEAGE,

[02:35:02]

AND I GUESS MY ASK OF THE JUDGE IS UNDERSTANDING THAT YES, COUNTY POLICY DOES ALLOW THOSE WITH TRAVEL ALLOWANCES TO TURN IN A REIMBURSEMENT FOR EXPENDITURES OUTSIDE OF THE COUNTY LINE. I'VE NEVER AGREED WITH THAT SO I HOLD MYSELF TO DIFFERENT POLICY.

IN THE CASE OF THIS, WOULD YOU NOT RECONSIDER YOUR SEEKING OF REIMBURSEMENT? JUST KNOWING THAT YOU DID USE YOUR VEHICLE, YOU DO RECEIVE A TRAVEL ALLOWANCE, THIS WAS, THIS IS A LITTLE -- I THINK YOU WOULD HAVE TO ADMIT THAT NORMAL PROCEDURE WOULD BE, YOU WOULD CONTACT SOMEONE AND SAY, I WANT TO VISIT THIS ON COUNTY BUSINESS.

FOLLOW THE CONTRACT WE HAVE. COMMISSIONER SMITH HAS BROUGHT UP SOME POINTS KNOWING THAT YOU RECEIVED TRAVEL ALLOWANCE, WOULD YOU BE WILLING JUST TO NOT SEEK REIMBURSEMENT FOR THAT? AND THEN WE WOULDN'T NEED TO APPROVE A BUDGET. AND REMOVE FUNDS FROM YOUR

CONTINUED -- >> I FIND IT YOU ALWAYS HAVE GOOD POINTS NEVER SAID THAT ABOUT YOUR PERSPECTIVES, WE DON'T ALWAYS AGREE, I'VE BEEN MARRIED 30 YEARS AND MY WIFE AND I DON'T ALWAYS AGREE. BUT I BELIEVE THAT THERE IS A FORTUNATE WOMAN IN MISCHARACTERIZATION ATTEMPT IN MY SINCEREST EFFORT FOR THE COUNTY BUSINESS ARE GOING TO SEE -- AND SO, IT'S A MIXED BAG TO ME.

BELIEVE ME I HAVE NOTHING ELSE IN HASKELL COUNTY I WENT THERE AND BACK. THERE WAS AN ENTIRE, ENTIRELY USEFUL EXERCISE FOR ME TO SEE AS THE COUNTY JUDGE WHERE SOMEONE HAS TO GO THROUGH THAT. TO WALK A MILE IN SOMEONE'S SHOES, TO JUST EXPERIENCE THAT DECISION AT THAT WAS IMPORTANT IT WAS OFFICIAL COUNTY BUSINESS.

AND SO, I FEEL IT IS APPROPRIATE BASED ON WHAT WE DO AND WHAT WE HAVE IS POLICY AND WHAT'S GOING ON AND WHAT GOES

ON. >> SINCE HE DID TAKE THE TRIP, IS THERE ANYTHING YOU BELIEVE VALUABLE FOR US TO HEAR ABOUT

THE EXPERIENCE? >> I COULD.

>> UNDER THAT WE ARE LIMITED TO A DISCUSSION.

BUT RELATIVE TO THE TRAVEL IN HASKELL COUNTY.

>> I WILL HAPPILY SHARE WITH YOU.

BUT SHOULD WE NOT VOTE FIRST ON THE REST OF THE AGENDA ITEMS AND THEN GO TO THIS ONE? PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

>> THIS IS FOR ALL THE OTHER AGENDA.

[G15. Amend the County Judge's operating budget for $370.25 in travel expenses related to assessment of the Haskell County Detention Contract for outsourcing inmates at the Hays County Jail. BECERRA]

I WASN'T GOING TO DEMONIZE UTILIZATION.

WAS MY INTENT TO PUT THEM IN A NEGATIVE LIGHT WAS MY TRUEST INTENT TO CAPTURE IN THE MOST NATURAL ELEMENT, -- HAS BEEN A SUPERVISOR FOR MANY YEARS, MANY LAYERS OF GOVERNMENT, PRIVATE INDUSTRY. I KNOW THE BEST WAY TO BE GOOD DIRECTOR OF OPERATIONS REGIONAL MANAGER AND AUDIT A FACILITY OF ANY KIND, IS A SURPRISE VISIT. AND SO, THAT IS THE PLACE I COME FROM WITH A SURPRISE ELEMENT.

BUT PEACEFULLY ENGAGING THE IDEA THAT THE WARDEN COULD JUST SAY WE ARE NOT READY FOR YOU. I WAS PREPARED TO NOT MAKE A FUSS BY ANY STRETCH OF THE IMAGINATION.

NEVERTHELESS, I WENT TO GET A TRUE ASSESSMENT OF WHAT'S GOING ON INCLUDING THE TRAVEL. AND SO, THINK OF SAID THAT EVERYONE HAS ASKED ME, I SAID, THE WORST THING ABOUT THIS HASKELL CONTRACT THAT WE DID, IS THE DISTANCE.

BECAUSE OVERALL, ENTER TOWARD THE WARDEN THIS.

I SAID OVERALL, BESIDES THE COMMUNICATION PIECE OF COMMUNICATING WITH OUTSIDERS, WE TALKED ABOUT IT, AND IT WAS ADDRESSED THROUGH VIDEO AND PHONE.

SHE ADDRESSED IT WAS GOING TO BRING IT UP BUT SHE ADDRESSED IT. THE PLACE LOOKS FINE.

I FEEL THAT SAYING ABOUT THE PLACE LOOKS FINE.

SHE GAVE ME A TOUR OF THE MEDICAL FACILITY AND DIFFERENT CELLS AND EVERYTHING ELSE. AND I WAS OKAY.

THE BIGGEST COMPLAINT I HAD WAS THE DISTANCE ANNA NEVER EVEN

[02:40:04]

IT WAS TRULY TO ASSESS. THAT'S WHY, AND YOU KNOW I'M PUBLIC, YOU KNOW VOCAL AND I DIDN'T SAY A WORD ABOUT IT.

WHY? BECAUSE THERE WAS NOTHING TO BE SAID. PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

[I1. Hold a public hearing with possible action to establish a 4-way stop location on Crosswinds Parkway at the intersection with Gulfstream Trail in Crosswinds subdivision. INGALSBE/BORCHERDING]

>> HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING WITH POSSIBLE ACTION TO ESTABLISH A 4-WAY STOP LOCATION ON CROSSWINDS PARKWAY AT THE INTERSECTION WITH GULFSTREAM TRAIL IN CROSSWINDS SUBDIVISION. WE WILL OPEN PUBLIC HEARING.

THOSE WISHING TO SPEAK FOR AGAINST THIS AGENDA ITEM, PLEASE APPROACH THE PODIUM. I SEE NO MOVEMENT.

I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC COMMENTS.

>> JUDGE, THIS IS TO PROVIDE SAFETY WITHIN THE SUBDIVISION AND ALSO PROVIDE A BETTER FLOW, BUT WITH --

>> THIS IS OUR DIVIDING LINE. IT IS A TEMPORARY THING, MAINLY FOR SAFETY REASONS BECAUSE IT'S ADDED TO SOME OF THE CONGESTION BUT WE LOOKING AT DIFFERENT ALTERNATIVES.

IT'S ALREADY APPROVED FOR STOPLIGHT, WHISTLING TO ME WITH

COMMUNITIES OUT THERE. >> THIS IS IN THE CROSSWINDS.

>> I'M SORRY. MY FAULT.

>> FOR SAFETY ISSUES, JUDGE. >> THANK YOU.

PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

[I2. Discussion and possible action to consider the release of the revegetation bond #PB03016800693M in the amount of $19,781.95 for 6 Creeks subdivision, Phase 1, Section 4A. SHELL/BORCHERDING]

>> PLEASE OPEN. >> DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO CONSIDER THE RELEASE OF THE REVEGETATION BOND #PB03016800693M IN THE AMOUNT OF $19,781.95 FOR 6 CREEKS

SUBDIVISION, PHASE 1, SECTION 4A. >> SOME WORK.

>> SECOND. >> MOTION AND SECOND.

>> STAFF APPROVAL. >> PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.ROLL

CALL FOR VOTE] I3 PLEASE. >> DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE

[I3. Discussion and possible action to authorize the County Judge to execute the 7th Letter Amendment for a time extension to a Professional Services Agreement (PSA) between Hays County and Lockwood, Andrews and Newman, Inc. executed on or about October 31, 2017 for Right of Way Service for Dacy Lane, Phase II from Amberwood Loop to Hillside Terrace, road widening and realignment project. JONES/INGALSBE/BORCHERDING]

PROJECT. >> ALSO MOVED.

>> SECOND. >> IS FOR TIME EXTENSION.

I DON'T BELIEVE THERE IS ANY ADDITIONAL FUNDS REQUIRED.

>> PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. >>.

[I4. Discussion and possible action to consider the acceptance of road construction & surface drainage improvements, release of the Letter of Credit #SBP702766 in the amount of $1,042,313.95, acceptance of the 2-year maintenance bond #PB03016800753M in the amount of $168,217.11, and acceptance of the 1-year revegetation bond #PB03016800753M2 in the amount of $129,173.00 for Parten Ranch subd., Phase 4. SMITH/BORCHERDING]

>> DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO CONSIDER THE ACCEPTANCE OF ROAD CONSTRUCTION & SURFACE DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENTS, RELEASE OF THE LETTER OF CREDIT #SBP702766 IN THE AMOUNT OF $1,042,313.95, ACCEPTANCE OF THE 2-YEAR MAINTENANCE BOND #PB03016800753M IN THE AMOUNT OF $168,217.11, AND ACCEPTANCE OF THE 1-YEAR REVEGETATION BOND #PB03016800753M2 IN THE AMOUNT OF $129,173.00 FOR PARTEN RANCH

SUBD., PHASE 4. >> SO MOVED.

>> SECOND. >> JUST RELEASE OF REVEG.

[I5. Discussion and possible action to authorize the Court to execute a Contract Amendment No. 7 in the amount of $200,000.00 to the Professional Service Agreement between Hays County and Johnson, Mirmiran, & Thompson, Inc. for professional design services on the FM 110 Middle project in Precinct 1, as part of the TxDOT/Hays County Partnership Program; authorize a discretionary exemption pursuant to Texas Local Government Code Ch. 262.024(a)(4) and amend the budget accordingly. INGALSBE/BORCHERDING]

>>.

>> I5. >> DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO AUTHORIZE THE COURT TO EXECUTE A CONTRACT AMENDMENT NO. 7 IN THE AMOUNT OF $200,000.00 TO THE PROFESSIONAL SERVICE AGREEMENT BETWEEN HAYS COUNTY AND JOHNSON, MIRMIRAN, & THOMPSON, INC. FOR PROFESSIONAL DESIGN SERVICES ON THE FM 110

[02:45:03]

262.024(A)(4) AND AMEND THE BUDGET ACCORDINGLY.

>> SO MOVED. >> SECOND.

>> WE HAVE SOMEONE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK.

>> THANK YOU. I'M STILL REELING FROM REPUBLICANS VOTING SEGMENT. [INAUDIBLE] I WILL SKIP DOWN IN THIS CONTRACT, IT WAS IN THE BACK, SAYS WHEREAS THE COUNTY AND ENGINEER EXECUTED CONTRACT ON APRIL 2, 2013 SUPPLEMENT NUMBER ONE FOR 11 2014 SUPPLEMENT NUMBER TWO, JANUARY 10, 2017, SUPPLEMENT NUMBER THREE, FAIRBURY DECEMBER 20, 2019 SUPPLEMENT NUMBER FOUR, -- SEVEN 5 SEPTEMBER 8, 2020, SUPPLEMENT NUMBER SIX JULY 13, 2021.

WHEREAS, NOT TO EXCEED FEE AND EXHIBIT SECTION ITEM THE AGREEMENT TO ITEM THE AGREEMENT -- $1,740,345 TO SUPPLEMENT NUMBER SIX. THEN IT GOES ONTO THE COMPENSATION, YOU'LL WANT TO VISIT FOR AN 1,750,000 TO 1,950,000. AND I'LL SKIP DOWN TO SECTION 3 ON AGREEMENT. IT SAYS, THE HOURLY RATES IN THE REGION EXHIBIT 2 ARE HEREBY AMENDED AS SHOWN.

IN THE ATTACHED REVISED EXHIBIT NUMBER TWO.

ANYWAY, I GOT THE EXHIBIT NUMBER TWO, IT SAYS, IS THE HOURLY RATE, $290 IN EARLY SENIOR ENGINEER $230 AN HOUR, IS ENGINEER $106 AN HOUR. EIT, I DO KNOW THAT IS HUNDRED $40 AN HOUR. SENIOR GIS OPERATOR $135.

ADMINISTRATION/CLERICAL, $135. I ALSO DON'T KNOW WHAT THE ORIGINAL AGREEMENT WAS FOR HOW MUCH MONEY IT WAS IN THE SCOPE OF THE WORK OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

BUT IT SEEMS TO THE CHANGE ORDERS, THESE PROJECTS START IN THE THOUSANDS AND END UP IN THE MILLIONS.

TO ME, THIS IS KIND OF NOT TRUTH IN ADVERTISING YOU KNOW? WHEN YOU GET YOUR PRODUCT AND YOU FIND OUT OKAY, WE GOTTA DO THIS AND THEN THAT AND THEN THE OTHER THING AND IT KEEPS GOING ON AND ON. PRETTY SOON, I BANKRUPT THE COUNTY. AND THE CYNIC MIGHT SAY THAT THERE IS ROOM FOR SET UP BETWEEN COLLUSION BETWEEN VARIOUS PEOPLE, I'M NOT SAYING THERE IS BECAUSE THERE IS NO EVIDENCE OF ANYTHING LIKE THAT. BUT THAT COULD BE COLLUSION BETWEEN THOSE THAT AGREE AND BE ENGINEERING FIRM AND SAY OKAY, YOU WILL GET THE CONTRACT AND PTHEN WE WILL REWARD YOU LATER.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> THANK YOU, SIR.

YOUR IDEA HAS MERIT AND IT HAS HAPPENED.

FOR EXAMPLE BUSINESS I WAS DOING EVERYTHING YOU JUST DESCRIBED. COMMISSIONER INGALSBE.

>> THANK YOU.E BE AUTHORIZING GMT TO PERFORM FEMA PERMITTING FOR THE SAN MARCOS RIVER AND BY PASS CREEK.

UNTIL JULY 20 TO FOUR. ON THE FM 110 METAL PROJECT AND WE JUST CONTINUE TO WORK ON THIS.

JUST, ISSUES THAT HAVE COME UP SUCH AS THIS PERMITTING THAT WE NEED TO CONTINUE TO DO AND WE ARE BOUND BY THE CONTRACT TO

ENSURE THAT WE COMPLETE. >> NOT NECESSARILY NEW PEACE BUT YOU KNOW WE DO HAVE THE SAN MARCOS RIVER AND BYPASS CREEK THAT WE NEED TO ENSURE THAT WE ARE DOING EVERYTHING AS FEMA ASKS. AND SO, WE HAVE TO DO SOME WORK

IN THAT AREA. >> ONE QUESTION, ENGINEERING TRAINING. USUALLY, ENGINEER IS GRADUATE FROM AN ACCREDITED UNIVERSITY THAT HAS PASSED THE FIRST EXAM.

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AND ALSO, IT WAS BROUGHT UP THAT THE CONCERN WHICH FROM A CONSTRUCTION STANDPOINT, THAT'S USUALLY WHERE YOU WOULD HAVE THAT REAL CONCERN OF SOMEONE LOW BILLING, KNOWING THAT THEY WILL COME LATER YOU KNOW YOU HAVE YOUR HOUSE AND TRYING TO BUILD A HOUSE OR SOMETHING AND YOU HAVE PLANS.

YOU GO WITH THE LOW BID AND ALL OF A SUDDEN YOU REALIZE IT, I DIDN'T INCLUDE THAT TYPE OF CABINET I DIDN'T SPECIFY THAT WELL. BEFORE YOU GET THE PAID MORE THAN SOMEONE THAT DIDN'T HAVE THE LOW BID I THINK THAT THE CONCERN YOU'RE PROPOSING. IN THIS PART OF THE PROFESSIONAL SERVICES, IT'S REALLY NOT IT WAS IN A BID THERE WAS AN ESTIMATE THAT WAS PUT TOGETHER WHAT WE THOUGHT IT WOULD COST TO PAY FOR THOSE PROFESSIONAL SERVICES.

IT IS NOT NECESSARILY A BID TO IS NOT APPLES TO APPLES.

BUT THE CONSTRUCTION, AND WITHIN A CONSTRUCTION SITE OFTEN TIMES, WHAT YOU SEE IS ENGINEERS THAT DO THEIR BEST, THEY PUT TOGETHER PLANS AND TRIED TO CARE OF THINGS LIKE, IS IT GOING TO BE A LETTER OF MAP REVISION NEEDED WITH FEMA ETC.? SOMETIMES YOU DON'T KNOW WHEN TO GET ON THE GROUND, EXACTLY WHAT ISN'T HAPPENING CONSTRUCTION WITH ROAD PROJECTS PRODUCE SURVEY, DESIGN AND ONCE YOU'RE ACTUALLY OUT THERE ON THE GROUND, YOU MAY HAVE TO TWEAK THINGS AND MAY REQUIRE ADDITIONAL CONSTRUCTION ACTIVITIES.HE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN WHAT THIS IS FOR AND THE CONSTRUCTION ACTIVITIES WOULD BE FOR COMEDIES OR FOR PROFESSIONAL SERVICES, IS NOT LIKE THE ENGINEERING FIRM CAME UP HE SAID I'LL DO THIS FOR X AND THAT'S NOT HOW WE ARE LUCKIER THAN THEY COME UP ADDING COST, AS TIME GOES ON.

THAT WOULD BE RELATED TO CONSTRUCTION.

>> MY ST. MICHAEL'S RIVER HAS ALWAYS BEEN THERE.

YOUR STERLING, WAS AT SOMETHING THEY OMITTED?

>> IT IS SOMETHING WAS READING. IT'S A VERY COMPETENT PROCESS.

SOMETIMES YOU CAN GET VARIANCE OR WAIVERS FOR SOME OF THOSE DEPENDING ON CIRCUMSTANCES BUT THEY DO TAKE A LOT OF TIME TO FIGURE OUT. WHAT IS ON THE GROUND I'M ASSUMING IT'S A SIMILAR PROJECT WHERE WE DID NOT BELIEVE WE WOULD NEED TO DO THAT AND IN THE END, FEMA SAID NO, YOU DO NEED TO, THOSE TYPE OF THINGS DO HAPPEN.

BUT ALSO COULD BE THAT THE CONSTRUCTION ACTIVITY THAT WAS PLANNED WAS MODIFIED YOU KNOW DURING OR BETWEEN WHEN THEY STARTED AND WHEN THEY FINISHED THE ACTUAL CONSTRUCTION OF SOMETHING. SO AS AN EXAMPLE, WE NEED SOME MORE RIPRAP OR EXTRA CIVILIZATION, MAYBE THE ORIGINAL DESIGN DIDN'T CONTEMPLATE AND SELL, IF YOU GO TO PERFORM THOSE WORKS YOU MAY THEN IT MIGHT RESULT IN GOING BACK TO FEMA SAYING THAT WE'VE NOW GONE OUTSIDE OF THE SCOPE OF WHAT WE ARE READY -- THEN IT CAN REQUIRE YOU TO DO THAT USING THAT AS AN EXAMPLE. THEY ARE, IT IS COMPLICATED ON THE ROADWAY LIKE THAT, YOU KNOW TRAVERSING THE FLOODPLAINS, CREEKS RIVERS AND ETC. IT IS UNDERSTANDABLE THAT EVERYTHING THAT DESIGN ENGINEER HAD CONTEMPLATED COULD BE DIFFERENT WHEN YOU ACTUALLY GET ON THE GROUND.

>> IS A BEAUTIFUL PROJECT AND I DON'T WANT TO HAVE A QUESTION I WAS ASKING THE THEORETICAL TO REFLECT ANYTHING ABOUT YOUR PROJECT. IS THE MOST BEAUTIFUL PART OF THE EAST SIDE OF 35, I CAN TELL YOU THAT WITH ALL CERTAINTY.

>> I APPRECIATE AND IN THANK YOU COMMISSIONER, FOR THE EXPEDITION. JUDGE, IT WILL SAY I USUALLY LOOK AT THE CONTRACT PRIOR TO COMMISSIONERS COURT AND THAT ONE, I DID NOT. I SHOULD HAVE LOOKED AT IT.

IT IS MY RESPONSIBILITY TO DO THAT AND I USUALLY DO.

I DIDN'T FOR WHATEVER REASON ON THIS ONE.

BUT I WILL NEXT TIME. I KNOW THAT NOBODY IS PUTTING -- I JUST, IT IS IMPORTANT TO ME TO BE ABLE TO ANSWER THOSE

QUESTIONS. >> PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

[I6. Discussion and possible action to accept Subdivision Bond No. 7901017121 for street and drainage improvements in the amount of $1,238,375.00 for the Crosswinds, Phase 6A subdivision. INGALSBE/BORCHERDING]

>> ISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO ACCEPT SUBDIVISION BOND NO. 7901017121 FOR STREET AND DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENTS IN THE AMOUNT OF $1,238,375.00 FOR THE CROSSWINDS, PHASE 6A

SUBDIVISION. >> SO MOVED.

>> SECOND. >> JUDGE, THIS IS FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE STREETS AND DRAINAGES AND THIS IS THE BOND

BEFORE THAT. >>.

[I7. Discussion and possible action to authorize the County Judge to execute a Professional Services Agreement between Hays County and Pape Dawson Engineering for development of Plans, Specifications, and Estimates for improvements to Beback Inn Road in Pct. 1. INGALSBE/BORCHERDING]

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>> DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO AUTHORIZE THE COUNTY JUDGE TO EXECUTE A PROFESSIONAL SERVICES AGREEMENT BETWEEN HAYS COUNTY AND PAPE DAWSON ENGINEERING FOR DEVELOPMENT OF PLANS, SPECIFICATIONS, AND ESTIMATES FOR IMPROVEMENTS TO

BEBACK INN ROAD IN PCT. 1. >> SO MOVED.

>> SECOND. >>.

ON THAT ONE! IT'S OKAY!

[J1. PLN-2011-NP; Weber Estate, Lot 1; Discussion and possible action to approve the final plat. SMITH/MACHACEK]

[LAUGHTER] >> PLEASE OPEN J1.

>> PLN-2011-NP; WEBER ESTATE, LOT 1; DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO APPROVE THE FINAL PLAT.

>> SO MOVED. >> SECOND.

>> MOTION AND SECOND. SORRY, SORRY --

>> GOOD MORNING JUDGE AND COMMISSIONERS.

MY NAME IS -- KATTRANSFER THE COUNTY PLANNER.

ONE LOT SUBDIVISION CONSISTING OF 2.026 ACRES.

THIS IS LOCATED OFF OF BRONSON LANE AND ALSO PRECINCT NUMBER FOUR. FOR THE SERVICE FOR THE PROPERTY WILL BE FOR PRIVATE WELL IN WHISTLER TREATMENT WILL BE ACHIEVED THROUGH SORRY -- AND ADVANCED ON-SITE SEWAGE FACILITY. THE PROJECT HAS BEEN REVIEWED PURSUANT TO TEXAS LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE CHAPTER 232 AS WELL AS ESTABLISHED HAYS COUNTY DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS SET FORTH. NO VARIANCES REQUESTED AND THE ITEM HAS A FULL STAFF RECOMMENDATION FOR APPROVAL.

>> PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. >>.

[J2. PLN-1902-PC; Wimberley Campfire 2, Edgewater Section, Lots 267 and 268, Amended; Discussion and possible action to consider granting a variance to Table 10-1 of the Hays County On-Site Sewage Facility Rules. SHELL/MACHACEK]

>> PLN-1902-PC; WIMBERLEY CAMPFIRE 2, EDGEWATER SECTION, LOTS 267 AND 268, AMENDED; DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO CONSIDER GRANTING A VARIANCE TO TABLE 10-1 OF THE HAYS COUNTY ON-SITE SEWAGE FACILITY RULES.

>> SO MOVED. >> SECOND.

>> COLBY. >> THANK YOU AGAIN.

WIMBLEY CAMPFIRE TO EDWARD SECTION IS RECORDED SUBDIVISION OFF OF RIVER ROAD IN WIMBLEY AND PRECINCT 3. THE AMENDED PLAT FOR LOTS 267 AND 268 WILL COMBINE THE TWO PROPERTIES INTO ONE LOT. 267 A AND THE LOT WILL BE COMPRISED OF 0.45 ACRES IN SIZE.

WATER SUPPLY FOR THE PROPERTY IS ACCOMPLISHED THROUGH CEDAR OAKS MESA WATER SUPPLY CORPORATION.

WASTEWATER TREATMENT IS A CONGRESSMAN EXISTING ADVANCED ON-SITE SEWAGE FACILITY. THE PROPERTY OWNER HAS REQUESTED A VARIANCE TO TABLE THAT TENDERS ONE OF THE HAYS COUNTY ON-SITE SEWAGE FACILITY RULES, AS SUCH, THE RULES CURRENT RULES, REQUIRE ONE HALF ACRES OF PROPERTY FOR PUBLIC GROUNDWATER SUPPLY AND ADVANCED ON-SITE SEWAGE FACILITIES.

AND OF COURSE, THE PROPERTY COMBINED WILL NOT MEET THE MINIMUM LOT SIZE REQUIREMENT. HOWEVER, BACK IN 1976, THE EDWARD SECTION WAS ORIGINALLY PLATTED, IT HAD THE MET REQUIREMENTS OF THE TIME ONLY NEEDING 0.23 ACRES.

ASIDE FROM THIS, THE PROJECT IS IN REVIEW NOT ONLY BY HAYS COUNTY DEVELOP SERVICES BUT ALSO THE CITY OF WIMBLEY PURSUANT TO OUR INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT WITH THE CITY.

ASIDE FROM THAT FURTHER JUSTIFICATION FOR THE VARIANCE

IS INCLUDED IN THE BACKUP. >> THIS IS ONE OF THE CIRCUMSTANCES WOULD HAVE AN EXISTING HOUSE THAT MET THE RULES OF THE TIME THEY WISHING TO COMBINE LOTS THE EXISTING LOT DOESN'T COME CLOSE TO MEETING CURRENT STANDARDS.

JUST IN CASE OF THEM WANTING TO COME BY THE PROPERTIES INTO ONE LOT. THAT LOT UNFORTUNATELY DOES NOT MEET OUR RULES CURRENTLY BUT SOMEONE COULD POTENTIALLY DEVELOP THE OTHER LOT IF WE WEREN'T ALLOWED TO COMBINE

THEM. >> COMMISSIONERS? ARE WE READY? THANK YOU.

>>.

[J3. PLN-2055-PC; Call for a Public Hearing on November 15th 2022, followed by discussion and possible action regarding the Indian Hills Ranch, Lot 9, Replat. SMITH/MACHACEK]

>> J3. >> PLN-2055-PC; CALL FOR A PUBLIC HEARING ON NOVEMBER 15TH 2022, FOLLOWED BY DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION REGARDING THE INDIAN HILLS RANCH, LOT 9,

REPLAT. >> SO MOVED.

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>> SECOND. >> PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

[K1. Discussion and possible action to authorize the County Judge to execute the Hays County American Rescue Plan Recovery Grant Agreement between Hays County and the Court Appointed Special Advocates (CASA) of Central Texas Inc. regarding recovery assistance for direct or indirect impacts of COVID-19 and amend the budget accordingly. SMITH]

>> K1. DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO AUTHORIZE THE COUNTY JUDGE TO EXECUTE THE HAYS COUNTY AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN RECOVERY GRANT AGREEMENT BETWEEN HAYS COUNTY AND THE COURT APPOINTED SPECIAL ADVOCATES (CASA) OF CENTRAL TEXAS INC. REGARDING RECOVERY ASSISTANCE FOR DIRECT OR INDIRECT IMPACTS OF COVID-19 AND AMEND THE BUDGET

ACCORDINGLY. >> SO MOVED.

>> SECOND. >> THANK YOU.

THIS IS ON THE ENDS WE HAD A DISCUSSION ON LAST WEEK.

THIS IS FUNDING FOR CASA. THANK YOU FOR STEPPING UP AND MATCHING $50,000 EDITED PRECINCT FOR ALLOCATION.

WITH FUNDING FROM PRECINCT 3. THIS WILL REALLY WORK COUNTYWIDE. WE ARE EXCITED ABOUT IT.

I KNOW THEY ARE EXCITED ABOUT IT.

IT MADE A COMMITMENT TO THEM. ONCE WE'RE DONE WITH THE PROCESS, TO THE BE ADDITIONAL FUNDS, THE OVERALL NUMBER THAT CAME IN AS FAR AS OVERALL LOST REVENUE, FOR THEM, WAS 120,000.

AT THE END OF THE PROCESS, FIVE ADDITIONAL ALLOCATIONS, I CAN MAKE THEM WHOLE BUT I WANTED TO GO TO THE PERS NATION WE HAVE RIGHT NOW IN ORDER TO I WANT TO LEAVE ANYONE OUT.

WE WILL COME BACK AND WILL HAVE REVIEW LATER.

>> PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. >>.

[M1. Discussion and possible action related to the burn ban. BECERRA]

[M2. Discussion related to the Hays County inmate population, to include current population counts and costs. BECERRA]

NOW I'LL ASK THAT YOU PLEASE OPEN M2.

>> DISCUSSION RELATED TO THE HAYS COUNTY INMATE POPULATION, TO INCLUDE CURRENT POPULATION COUNTS AND COSTS.

>> THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE SENDS MY OFFICE OUR JAIL CAPACITY, OUR JAIL CAPACITY 410 INMATES, DELL STANDARDS RECOMMENDED PROXIMALLY 10 PERCENT OF THE CAPACITY OPEN WHICH WAS CAPACITY TO 368. THE DAILY AVERAGE WAS 615, AND PEAK WAS 619 ON OCTOBER 16. THIS MAY COST OUTSOURCING INMATES THIS WEEK IS 134,823, -- FEMALES ARE 16.

THIS WEEK'S INMATES HOUSED IN THE FOLLOWING COUNTIES.

BLACKWELL, BURNETT, -- HASKELL, LEE AND EVERETT.

PAPER READY INMATES. WE HAVE 34.

[L. EXECUTIVE SESSIONS]

IF YOU WILL PLEASE OPEN L1. >> EXECUTIVE SESSION PURSUANT TO SECTIONS 551.071 AND 551.072 OF THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE: CONSULTATION WITH COUNSEL AND DELIBERATION REGARDING THE PURCHASE, EXCHANGE, LEASE AND/OR VALUE OF RIGHT OF WAY LOCATED AT OR NEAR WINDY HILL ROAD IN PCT. 2. POSSIBLE DISCUSSION AND/OR ACTION MAY FOLLOW IN OPEN COURT.

>> ALL RIGHT.

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