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[A. CALL TO ORDER]

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>> JUDGE BECERRA: AS ALWAYS TELEVISED REPORTED RECORD.

THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE, I LIKE TO CALL THIS MEETING'S TO ORDER. THIS MORNING'S INVOCATION WILL BE LEAD BY OUR VERY OWN COMMISSIONER INGAG BELLES, IF YOU WOULD

RISE. >> JUDGE, I ALSO WANT TO LIFT UP THE BEAUS FAMILY GAYLORD BOWS PASSED AWAY.

HE WAS A FORMER CITY COUNCIL MEMBER THEN JULIE FORD

PASSED AWAY. >> AS WELL AS JUDGE OWE

BRYAN'S MOTHER PASSED. >> THAT'S CORRECT, YES. LET US PRAY. HEAVENLY FATHER, WE COME TO YOU TODAY THIS WONDERFUL DAY THAT YOU'VE GIVEN US AND WE DO LIFT THOSE FAMILIES UP TO YOU, LORD.

IT'S SO DIFFICULT WHEN WE LOSE A LOVED ONE AND WE ASK FOR COMFORT FOR THE FAMILY AND UNDERSTANDING AND JUST BE WITH THEM AND COMFORT THEM, DEAR LORD.

JUST THANK YOU FOR THIS DAY AGAIN THAT WE ARE EABLE TO BE HERE. I JUST ASK THAT YOU GIVE US WISDOM, LORD TO DO THE RIGHT AND BEST THING FOR THE COUNTY. WE LOVE YOU AND WE THANK YOU IN JESUS' NAME, AMEN.

>> >> I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND

JUSTICE FOR ALL. >> HONOR THE TEXAS FLAG, I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THEE, TEXAS, ONE STATE UNDER GOD, ONE AND INDIVISIBLE. A.

>> JUDGE BECERRA: ACOUSTICS IN THIS ROOM ARE VERY, VERY GOOD. COMMISSIONER, ARE YOU GOOD?

>> YEAH. >> I WANT TO LET YOU KNOW THAT -- I WANT YOU TO TAKE A SECOND. SILENCE YOUR CELL PHONES BUT I'LL READ IT IN A COMMENT IN MINUTE. PLEASE CALL, ROLE.

[E. PUBLIC COMMENTS]

>> JUDGE BECERRA: HERE. THOSE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO HAVE SUBMITTED A PUBLIC PARTICIPATION WITNESS FORM WILL NOW HAVE 3 MINUTES TO SPEAK.

UNFORTUNATELY NO ACTION MAY BE TAKEN BY THE COURT AS WE'RE EXPECTED NOT TO RESPOND. ANY QUESTIONS WILL BE TAKEN AS RHETORICAL. ALL COMMENTS ARE THE OPINION OF THE SPEAKER AND ARE NOT MEANT TO ALWAYS BE NECESSARILY CONSTRUED AS TRUTH.

PLEASE KEEP YOUR COMMENT AND LANGUAGE RESPECTFUL OR YOU WILL FORFEIT THE REMAINDER OF YOUR TIME. IN THE SPIRIT OF RESPECT, HERE IT IS, PLEASE SILENCE YOUR CELL PHONES. SO WE HAVE A ROBUST LIST OF FOLKS SIGNED UP TO SPEAK. I WANT TO REITERATE LIKE I USUALLY DO WHENEVER THERE IS A ROBUST LIST OF SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION TO AN AGENDA ITEM, THERE IS TWO WAYS TO GET ON THE PODIUM AND BE RECORDED IN THE COUNTY HISTORY, WHEREVER YOU LOOK BACK 30 YEARS FROM NOW YOU'LL SEE YOURSELF THERE.

THERE'S 2 WAYS TO COMMUNICATE WITH THIS COURT AND WITH THE PUBLIC. ONE IS RIGHT NOW IN COMMENTS AND IT IS JUST BE A SHOTGUN COMMENT BUT VERY IMPORTANT AND WELL DOCUMENTED. AND THE OTHER OPTION IS WHEN WE OPEN A SPECIFIC AGENDA ITEM AND YOU CAN SPEAK AT THAT MOMENT. THE CHOICE IS YOURS.

THE WAY IT'S WRITTEN IS UNDER PUBLIC COMMENTS I WILL CALL THOSE NOW AND THEN WHEN I GO THROUGH THE AGENDA AND OPEN EACH AGENDA ITEM, AT THAT TIME I WILL THEN CALL YOU IF YOU'VE SIGNED UP IN THE TOP RIGHT BOX UNDER THE SPECIFIC AGENDA ITEM. SOMETIMES PEOPLE THINK DID YOU SKIP ME? I SIGNED UP TO SPEAK SO THAT IS WHY I TAKE THE TIME TO CLARIFY SO FOLKS NOW YOU TAKE THE TIME FROM YOUR BUSY DAY TO BE HERE, I WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT IS GOING ON BECAUSE THE WHOLE SETUP IS FOR YOU. IT'S ABOUT YOU. IT'S ABOUT YOU SEEING THINGS. IT'S ABOUT YOU UNDERSTANDING THINGS. IF YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND IT WHAT ARE WE DOING? WE'RE WASTING OUR TIME. THAT'S WHY I TAKE THIS TIME TO DO THAT. SO UNDER PUBLIC COMMENTS OUR FIRST PERSON SIGNED UP TO SPEAK IS I GUESS IT'S JUDGE DAN O'BRIAN. PLEASE APPROACH THE PODIUM.

>> THANK YOU, GOOD MORNING, I'LL TRY TO KEEP MY COMMENTS SOMEWHAT BRIEF. I'M DAN O'BRIAN, I'M HERE BECAUSE AN ISSUE CAME UP LATER LAST WEEK WHICH HIGH LIGHTS SOME

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OF THE LINE REPORTS, MY COURT REPORTER RELUCTANTLY TENDERED HER RESIGNATION ESSENTIALLY BECAUSE OF PAY.

I UNDERSTAND THERE IS NOTHING ON THE AGENDA TODAY TO TAKE UP. THERE IS NO ACTION THAT CAN BE TAKEN.

I'M ALSO AWARE THAT WE'RE SORT OF IN A ZARK ZONE AS THIS COUNTY FINALIZES ITS BUDGET PROCESS AND TRYING TO MAKE A CHANGE MID STREAM IS NOT ENVIABLE. I ALSO AM AWARE THAT THE COURT HAS ENDID YOU EVERRED TO UNDERSTAY A SALARY STUDY TO ADDRESS THOSE ISSUES COUNTYWIDE. I SAY THAT NOT ONLY BECAUSE OF MY COURT REPORTER SITUATION, I THINK THERE IS A PERSONAL MATTER WHERE THE SALARY IS GOING TO CAUSE HER TO DEPART. SHE IS A VALUABLE EMPLOYEE OF THE COUNTY COURT SYSTEM. EVERYBODY THAT WORKS THE COUNTY COURTS HAVE BEEN DILIGENT IN THEIR DUTIES DURING COVID AND AFTERWARDS. BUT THE COURT REPORTERS, RIOT, WRONG OR INDIFFERENT ARE IN A UNIQUE POSITION, WE ARE A COURT OF RECORD. WE HAVE TO HAVE THEM FOR ALMOST EVERYTHING WE DO AND THERE IS A SHORTAGE. I PROVIDED SOME INFORMATION TO SHERRY MILITARY TRY TO SEE IF WE CAN WORK ON THIS. I THINK THERE IS AN ARTICLE OUT THERE THAT SUGGESTS IF YOU, IF 90,000 PEOPLE IN THE STATE OF TEXAS ENROLLED INTO STENOGRAPHY SCHOOL THIS YEAR, WE MIGHT HAVE A 10% PASSING RATE WHICH IS THE NORMAL PASSAGE RATE TO GET 9,000 COURT REPORTERS TO BE ABLE TO FILL OPEN VACANCIES SO THERE IS A DEMAND NOT ONLY WITHIN THE COUNTY. THE ARTICLE MAY HAVE SAID NATIONWIDE WHICH THERE IS A SHORTAGE WHICH PUTS US IN A POSITION TO FILL IN ON A DAY BY DAY BASIS, IF WE CAN'T DO THAT. IF WE DON'T ADDRESS THE STAFFING, THE COURT WILL NO LONGER FUNCTION. AND THE COUNTIES THAT POACHED MY COURT REPORTER ARE ACTIVELY POACHING OTHER COURT REPORTERS HERE IN THE COUNTY IT'S GOING TO CREATE A PROBLEM. I TALKED TO A COUPLE OF YOU.

I'M GOING TO SPEAK TO EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU IF YOU'LL MAKE YOURSELF AVAILABLE BECAUSE IT'S AN IMPORTANT PART TO KEEP OUR JUSTICE SYSTEM FUNCTIONING AND OPERATING. ANYWAY I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME. I'M GOING BACK TO COURT TODAY. HAVE A GOOD DAY, EVERYBODY.

>> THANK YOU, CIRCUMSTANCES NEXT UP WE'VE MISS LAURA NUNN. [PAUSE]

>> GOOD MORNING, COMMISSIONERS AND JUDGE BECERRA. I'M HERE TODAY TO IMPLORE YOU TO PRESERVE THE PRINTED BALLS FROM THE NOVEMBER 2020 ELECTION BEYOND THE REQUIRED RETENTION PERIOD.

I HAVE LEARNED THAT ALL DIGITAL RECORDS FROM THE NOVEMBER 2020 ELECTION ARE NOT AVAILABLE. HAVE BEEN DELETED OR SIMPLY NEVER EXISTED BECAUSE OF A SETTING IN THE SOFTWARE. TO DATE HAYS COUNTY HAS GIVEN TWO DIFFERENT EXPLANATIONS FOR WHY THE CAST VOTE RECORDS THE C. V. R.'S AND SEVERAL REPORTS FROM THE 2020 ELECTION CANNOT BE EXAMINED. THE FIRST PLANNINGS WAS THAT A FEW MONTHS AGO WE WERE TOLD THAT THE WOOS UPGRADE APPROVED BY THE ECONOMIC IN 2021 CAUSED ALL DATA TO BE OVERWRITTEN AND UNRECOVERIABLE BUT THEN LAST WEEK WE WERE TOLD THAT IT WAS BECAUSE THE SETTINGS IN HART'S SOFTWARE PREVENTED THE NOVEMBER 2020 ELECTION FROM EVEN BEING ELECTRONICALLY RECORDED.

THE ELECTION WAS NOT RECORDED DIGITALLY.

NEITHER EXPLANATION CONFORMS TO THE STATE AND FEDERAL LAWS THAT REQUIRE RETAINING ALL ELECTION RECORDS FOR 22 MONTHS+ ONE DAY OR SEPTEMBER 4TH, 2022 IN THIS CASE. COMMISSIONERS AND JUDGE, I'M NOT AN I.T.EXPERT. HOWEVER I HAVE WORKED IN OFFICE SETTINGS FOR OVER 40 YEARS FROM THE LATE 70S TO THE PRESENT. THROUGH THE EARLY ADOPTION AND ULTIMATELY REACHING CRITICAL MASS WHERE EACH EMPLOY HE HAS A DESK TOP COMPUTER OR PLAN TOP WITH WHICH TO PERFORM HIS OR HER DAILY FUNCTIONS, IN 1998 IRWAS CHARGED WITH MAKING SURE THE ELECTRIC FRONTIC DATA FOR MY DEPARTMENT WAS BACKED UP. RETAINED ACCORDING TO THE RECORDS RETENTION POLICY AND SAFE GUARDED AGAINST MALWARE. EVEN I PRIOR TO HAVING A COLLEGE DEGREE KNEW DATA MUST BE SAVED AND STORED SECURELY IF IT'S TO BE USEFUL IN THE FUTURE.

ASK ME HOW I KNOW. I KNOW BECAUSE I ONCE LOST 16,000 RECORDS THAT I HAD ENTERED AND HAD TO ENTER THEM ALL OVER AGAIN. I UNDERSTAND THE IMPORTANCE OF BACKING UP DATA AND I'M NOT AN I. T.

EXPERT SO I HUMBLY ASK THAT YOU RETURN TO SECURE VOTING PRACTICES WITHOUT ELECTRONIC DEVICES. THERE SHOULD BE NO MACHINE BETWEEN ME AND MY VOTE. BETWEEN MY VOTE AND ITS COUNTING OR BETWEEN MY VOTE AND ITS RETENTION.

SINCE WE ARE UNDOUBTEDLY GOING TO RELY ON MACHINES FOR THE UPCOMING NOVEMBER ELECTION I AGAIN IMPLORE YOU TO ASSURE THE PUBLIC THAT PRINTED BALLOTS FROM NOVEMBER 2020 ARE RETAINED BEYOND THE REQUIRED

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RETENTION PERIOD AND ESPECIALLY TO MAKE SURE ALL% OF THE DATA COLLECTED THIS NOVEMBER IS RECORDED AND RETAINED ACCORDING TO THE LAW WHICH HAS BEEN BROKEN HERE IN HAYS COUNTY. THANK YOU.

>> JUDGE BECERRA: THANK YOU, ALTHOUGH I BELIEVE THERE HAS BEEN NO SIGNIFICANT MISTAKES IN HAYS COUNTY'S PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION RESULTS, I HAVE REACHED OUT TO, BECAUSE IT'S IMPORTANT TO YOU, I'VE REACHED OUT TO OUR ADMINISTRATOR AND ASKED THAT SHE SAVE THOSE VOTES, THAT PRINTED BALLOTS AND THAT INFORMATION YOU ARE REQUESTING FOR A LONGER PERIOD OF TIME. I HAVE ACTED ALTHOUGH I DON'T BELIEVE THERE'S A PROBLEM WITH THE PRESIDENTIAL. I STILL ASK BECAUSE IT WAS IMPORTANT TO YOU AND I WANT YOU TO KNOW IT HAS BEEN ADDRESSED. NEXT UP TO SPEAK WE HAVE LAURA OH, NO, THAT IS YOU ALREADY. THANK YOU, MARY MITCHELL.

>> GOOD MORNING. THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TO YOU AGAIN TODAY. MY NAME IS MARY MITCHELL.

I SPOKE ON AUGUST 9TH ABOUT MY CONCERNS REGARDING THE SECURITY OF OUR ELECTIONS HERE IN HOW MANY TIMESY. CONCERNS THAT ARE -- HOW OFTENY. CONCERNS THAT ARE QUICKLY PROVING CORRECT. I SPECIFICALLY REQUESTED WE USE SEQUENTIALLY NUMBERED BALLOTS PRINTED ON SECURE PAPER ACCORDING TO TEXAS' ELECTION CODE 5 52.062. AT A RECENT MEETING IN RESPONSE TO THIS REQUEST, MISSISSIPPI -- MS. DONEOFF STARTED THAT THE BALLOTS MUST BE PURCHASED FROM HART INTERCIVIC AND THEY WILL NOT PRESENT SEQUENTIALLY NUMBERED BALLOTS ON THE BALLOT. SHE INVITED A GROUP TO STAMP SEQUENTIAL NUMBERS ON BALLOTS AT HER INSTRUCTION. I'M READY TO HELP.

LOOKING AGAIN AT THE NOVEMBER 2020 ELECTION, I HAVE COME TO UNDERSTAND THAT THE VOTING MACHINE VENDOR FOR HAYS COUNTY HART INTERCIVIC HAD ADVISED ELECTION ADMINISTRATORS TO LEAVE THE FEATURE TURNED OFF THAT WOULD HAVE RECORDED THE CAST VOTE RECORDS ALSO KNOWN AS C. V. R.'S. FOR THE NOVEMBER 2020 ELECTION.

WE ARE TOLD THAT THOSE RECORDS WERE NEVER EVEN RECORDED, BUT WE STILL HAVE THE PAPER BALLOTS THAT WERE PRINTED AT THE TIME THE VOTE WAS CAST. WITHOUT THE C. V.

R.'S, WE MUST EXAMINE THE BALLOTS AND CONDUCT A HAND COUNT OF EVERY RACE IN THE NOVEMBER 2020 ELECTION.

MY TWO MAJOR CONCERNS ARE NOVEMBER 2020 ELECTIONS WERE CERTIFIED HERE IN HAYS COUNTY WITHOUT PROPERLY HELD RECORDS TO REVIEW. AND HART INTERCIVIC CANNOT BE RELIED UPON FOR TRANSPARENCY AND HONESTY TO PROTECT OUR VOTES. I HEREBY REQUEST THAT WE COMPLETELY REMOVE ANY AND ALL VOTING MACHINES FROM OUR ELECTIONS IMMEDIATELY. AS I CLOSE, I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHERE WE STAND ON OBTAINING SEQUENTIALLY NUMBERED SECURE PAPER BALLOTS FOR THIS NOVEMBER ELECTIONS FROM ANOTHER COMPANY BESIDES SOURCING THEM FROM HART INTERCIVIC SO THE UPCOMING NOVEMBER ELECTIONS CAN BE ANALYZED AND REVIEWED AFTERWARDS SO AS TO PREVENT MAL ADMINISTRATION OF THESE UPCOMING ELECTIONS. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

>> JUDGE BECERRA: THANK YOU. NEXT UP, ANDRE LEMKE.

>> COULD YOU SAY THE LAST NAME AGAIN?

>> >> JUDGE BECERRA: LEMKE, L-E-N-.

>> GOOD MORNING, AS ONE OF MANY CITIZENS CONCERNED WITH THE INTEGRITY OF OUR ELECTIONS IN HAYS COUNTY AND THESE COMMENTS WILL ECHO MANY OF THE COMMENTS YOU'VE ALREADY HEARD, I'M HERE AGAIN TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IN THE UPCOMING ELECTION AND WHY. ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT THINGS THAT'S NEEDED AS MENTIONED SEQUENTIALLY NUMBERED BALLOTS. HAYS COUNTY ELECTION ADMIN. STATED IT'S TOO LATE TO ORDER THEM BECAUSE THE PAPER COMES FROM HART INTERCIVIC. I'M NOT SURE WHY THAT MATTERS. WE COULD EASILY GET THE PAPER FROM ANOTHER SOURCE ALTHOUGH IT DOES MAKE ME WONDER WHY HART IS SO INEFFICIENT THEY COULD NOT GET THE NUMBERED PAPER TOGETHER BY NOVEMBER 3. ANYWAY, SO THAT WE'RE NOT SUBJECT TO HART'S INEPTITUDE A NUMBER OF CITIZENS HAVE VOLUNTEERED TO HAND STAMP THE SEQUENTIAL NUMBERS ON THE BALLOTS SO

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REGARDLESS OF WHERE WE GET THE PAPER, WE CAN EASILY HAVE THAT COVERED. EASILY. ANOTHER CONCERN I HAVE INVOLVES THE CAST VOTE RECORDS.

THESE ARE KNOWN AS BALLOT IMAGES AND ARE PRODUCED BY THE ELECTION COMPUTERS. ANALYSIS MUCH C. V. R.'S AND COMPARISON IS INFORMATION PRIMARILY USED TO IDENTIFY ELECTION FRAUD. ACCORDING TO THE SECRETARY OF STATE'S OFFICE, C. V. R.'S AS WELL AS PAPER BALLOTS MUST BE RETAINED FOR 22 MONTHS.

SEVERAL PEOPLE OF HAYS COUNTY HAVE BEEN INFORMED THAT THESE ARE UNAVAILABLE FOR THE 2020 ELECTION.

WE WERE TOLD THAT HART RECOMMENDED THAT RECORDING BE TURNED OFF. SO VOTES WOULD BE COUNTED MORE QUICKLY. IT'S LAUGHABLE, ABSOLUTELY LAUGHABLE. THE SAME COMPANY THAT CLAIMS THEY CAN'T PRODUCE NUMBERED BALLOTS IN TIME FOR THE NOVEMBER ELECTION ADVICED THE ELECTION OFFICE TO DO THIS. HOW CONVENIENT. HOW IS IT THAT NO ONE IN THE ELECTION OFFICE QUESTIONED THIS? HOW? INTERESTINGLY C. V. R.'S FROM THE 2022 PRIMARY ELECTION ARE AVAILABLE AND HAVE BEEN RECEIVED BY REQUEST. WHAT THIS MEANS IS THERE'S NO WAY TO VERIFY THE RESULTS OF THE 2020 ELECTION IN HAYS. IT CAN'T BE VERIFIED.

THERE ARE LAWS AGAINST THIS. AND THE TEXAS ELECTION CODE IS CLEAR. SO IF WE CANNOT VERIFY OUR BALLOTS AND RULE OUT FRAUD HOW CAN THE COUNTY SO CONFIDENTLY ASSERT THERE WAS NONE? SO I WILL INSIST WE'VE SEQUENTIALLY NUMBERED BALLOTS AND SINCE I.T.IS CLEARLY NOT THE COUNTY'S STRONG SUIT, IF ANY COMPUTER OR MACHINE IS USED I YOU A LOU US TO WATCH AS YOU SELECT THE BOX THAT SAYS YES WE'LL RECORD.

ACCORDING TO TEXAS ELECTION CODE C. V. R.'S MUST BE DUPLICATED TO ANOTHER U.S. MEDIUM LIKE A U.S. B. OR EXTERNAL HARD DRIVE. IT'S REITERATED IN AN ADVISORY PUT OUT BY THE SECRETARY OF STATE IN 2019 BEFORE THE 2020 ELECTION. WHY WAS THAT NOT ADHERED TO? THIS IS CLEARLY MAL ADMINISTRATION OF THE ELECTION PROCESS. ELECTION OFFICIALS IN HAYS COUNTY HAVE BROKEN THE PUBLIC TRUST. THEREFORE I DEMAND NO RIGGED MACHINES ARE USED IN ELECTIONS GOING FORWARD.

THANK YOU. >> JUDGE BECERRA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. NEXT WE HAVE JOE CHROME.

>> GOOD MORNING, MEMBERS OF THE COURT. THANK YOU FOR GIVING THE PUBLIC THIS FORUM FOR COMMUNICATION, MY NAME IS JOE CHROME AND I'VE BEEN A RESIDENT IN HAYS COUNTY SINCE 2013. LIKE MANY AMERICANS WHO HOKE UP THE MORNING OF NOVEMBER 4, 2020. I THOUGHT IS BEING WAS TERRIBLY WRONG WITH THE ELECTION SYSTEM IN OUR COUNTRY. IN THE LATE SUMMER OF 2021 AFTER SEEING DATA AND OTHER STUDIES NATIONALLY AND LOCAL I COMPILED ELECTION RECORDS FROM THE COUNTY WEBSITE ENCOMPASSING 2 -- AND THE E-MAIL EXCHANGES THAT FOLLOW.

[INDISCERNIBLE] WHAT WAS MOST SUSPECT IN MY OPINION WAS THE INCREASED AND RATE OF REGISTERED VOTERS VERSUS POPULATION GROWTH RATE FROM 2016 TO 2020. POPULATION GROWTH IN HAYS COUNTY REMAINED STEADY FOR THE PERIOD AT A RATES OF 16 HAD EVER 22 PERCENT GROWTH FOR EACH FOUR YEAR INTERVAL.

VOTER REGULAR STATIONS MAN PARALLEL TO POPULATION GROWTH AT A RATE OF 15-18% FOR THE SAME INTERVAL WITH THE EXCEPTION OF 2016 TO 2020 WHICH GREW AT A RATE OF 31.9% OR ALMOST DOUBLE. INTERESTINGLY, THERE IS AN INVENTORY OF 6,000 TO 10,000 SUSPENSE VOTERS ON THE ROLES AT ANY GIVEN TIME. HOWEVER, AS OF AUGUST 5, 2022, THERE ARE 23,016 SUSPENSE VOTERS, AN INCREASE OF+ 123%. IN MARCH OF 2020, TEXAS JOINED THE ELECTRONIC REGISTRATION SYSTEM ALSO KNOWN AS E. R. I. C. IT'S IN MY OPINION THAT THE ONLY REASONABLE FOR THE AFOREMENTIONED ANOMALIES.

THE PARENTS REGISTERED VOTERS IN EXCESS OF ELIGIBLE VOTERS IN FOUR ERIC STATES AND A REGISTRATION RATE OF OVER 90% OF ELIGIBLE VOTERS IN SIX OTHER STATES. AGAIN ANOMALOUS FIGURE. I BELIEVE THE CURRENT SYSTEM IS AT BEST SUSPECT AND AT WORST BROKEN. LET'S GET RID OF THE MACHINES AND RETURN TO YOUR PREVIOUS SYSTEM OF VOTING IN THE FOLLOWING WAYS: THE VOTER ROLES ARE BLOATED. START OVER BY HAVING LEGAL ELIGIBLE VOTERS REREGISTER, 23,016 SUSPEND VOTERS IS

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UNACCEPTABLE. ELIMINATE ERIC, A PRIVATE ENTITY AND THE ELECTRONIC POLL BOOK SYSTEM. ACCORDING TO THE TEXAS STATUTES, TEXAS ELECTION CODE 129.054 SYSTEMS SHOULDN'T BE CONNECTED TO THE INTERNET.

THIS THIRD PARTY ALSO COLLECTS OUR PERSONAL DATA AND DISTRIBUTES IT WITHOUT OUR PERMISSION.

A RETURN TO PAPER BALLOTS SEQUENTIALLY NUMBERED EACH SIGNED BY AN ELECTION JUDGE AS ELECTION CODE REQUIRES.

ELIMINATE VOTING CENTERS AND RETURN TO PRECINCT VOTING WITH HAND COUNTING FOR LOCAL CITIZEN CONTROL OF THE VOTE. ELDERLY VOTING ALL TOGETHER AND ESTABLISH AN ELECTION DAY HOLIDAY SO THAT EVERYONE CAN VOTE. RETAIN ALL RECORDS FOR THE 2020 ELECTION BEYOND THE 22 MONTH MANDATE WHICH EXPIRES 9/3/2022. ELECTION INTEGRATE NEEDS TO BE FIXED.

ACCORDING TO THE T. E. C. 123.001 YOU HAVE THE JURISDICTION TO MAKE THESE CHANGES. THANK YOU FOR YOUR

CONSIDERATIONS. >> JUDGE BECERRA: THANK YOU,

SIR, NEXT UP LISA CHROME. >> GOOD MORNING, COMMISSIONERS. JUDGE BECERRA. MY NAME IS LISA CHROME. MY HUSBAND AND I LIVE IN HAYS COUNTY SINCE 2013. WE HAVE A HUGE PROBLEM IN OUR COUNTRY AND EVEN IN HAYS COUNTY REGARDING THE VALIDITY OF OUR ELECTIONS. ELECTION INTEGRATE GROUPS FROM EVERY SINGLE STATE GAVE TESTIMONY AT THE MOMENT OF TRUTH SUMMIT A OF WIDE SPREAD IRREGULARITIES FRAUD AND MALADMINISTRATION OF THE 2020 ELECTION.

YOU CAN SEE ALL OF THE TESTIMONY IN HAD THE STATE OF THE STATE SEGMENTS AT WWW.FRANK'S SPEECH.COM.

ON THE WEBSITE YOU CAN ALSO SEE MULTIPLE COMPUTER PROGRAMMERS AND CYBEREXPERTS WHO HAVE GIVEN WHISTLE BLOWER TESTIMONY AS FAR BACK AS 2004 OF THEIR DIRECT INVOLVEMENT IN CREATING PROGRAMS DESIGNED TO ALTER THE OUTCOME OF OUR ELECTIONS ON BOTH SIDES OF PARTY LINES. I ASK YOU, WHY SHOULD ANYONE NOT WANT TO PURSUE TRUTH? IF SOMEONE IS MURDERED, LIKE MY NIECE, WE DO NOT FORGET ABOUT INVESTIGATING AND BRINGING THE MURDER TO JUSTICE. JUST BECAUSE THE PERSON IS ALREADY DEAD.

THIS IS NOT A DEAD ISSUE. OUR VOTE IS SACRED.

IT MUST BE PROTECTED FROM ALL OUTSIDE INFLUENCE AND INTERFERENCE, FOREIGN AND DOMESTIC.

WE ALL MUST BE ABLE TO TRUST THE PROCESS AND OUTCOME. IF WE CANNOT TRUST EVERY ASPECT OF OUR ELECTION PROCESS TO GIVE US AN HONEST RESULT, WE LOSE OUR RIGHTS, OUR FREEDOMS, AND OUR GREAT REPUBLIC. SADLY I AND OTHER CONCERNED CITIZENS HAVE WITNESSED MANY REASONS WHY WE CANNOT TRUST OUR ELECTION PROCESS.

BECAUSE OF MAL ADMINISTRATION AND BECAUSE OF VULNERABILITY OF VARIOUS MACHINES USED FOR OUR ELECTIONS. INFORMATION HAS NOT BEEN PROVIDED BY ELECTIONS ADMINISTRATOR DESPITE HAVING BEEN PAID FOR. AS A CITIZEN I'M DEMANDING THAT OUR ELECTION PROCESSES ARE REFORMED TO FOLLOW THE LAW AND INCLUDE GETTING RID OF ALL ELECTION MACHINES AND THE ERIC SYSTEM. ELECTION JUDGES' SIGNATURE ON ALL BALLOTS.

DUMP THE VOTER ROLLS, START OVER BY HAVING LEGAL ELIGIBLE VOTERS REREGISTER. RETURN TO PRECINCT VOTING WITH HAND COUNTING FOR LOCAL CITIZENS CONTROL OF THE VOTES. EARLY EARLY VOTING.

ESTABLISH A SINGLE ELECTION HOLIDAY. RETAINING ALL RECORDS RELATED TO THE 2020 ELECTION BEYOND THE 22 MONTH AND ONE DAY MINIMUM SO AN INVESTIGATIONS MAY BE COMPLETED. SEQUENTIALLY NUMBERED BALLOTS STARTING WITH THE NUMBER 1 AND PRINTED ON SECURE PAPER.

FINALLY, THE 2020 ELECTION MUST BE DECERTIFIED.

AS A GROUP OF CONCERNED CITIZENS WE'VE PROOF THAT THE ELECTION RESULTS IN HAYS COUNTY ARE NOT, ARE NOT ACCURATE. MORE TIME IS SNEEDED TO VERIFY THE ACTUAL BALLOTS BECAUSE AT THE DIRECTION OF HART SPIN SERIC PERSONNEL THE E. A. WAS INSTRUCTED TO DISABLE THE SETTINGS WHICH WOULD HAVE POPULATED OUR C.

V. R.'S, THIS MALADMINISTRATION WAS A CLEAR VIOLATION OF ELECTION LAW FOR THE PRESERVATION OF INFORMATION RELATED TO MY VOTE.

TO YOUR VOTE. TO EVERY VOTE OF EVERY CITIZEN HERE IN HAYS COUNTY. WE ARE COUNTING ON YOU. BE OF GREAT COURAGE. TAKE ACTION. SPEAK UP FOR WHAT IS RIGHT AND TRUE. IF YOU ARE SILENT, YOU ALL ARE

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COMPLICIT. BENJAMIN FRANKLIN TOLD US THAT OUR FOUNDERS GAVE US A REPUBLIC IF WE CAN KEEP IT. PLEASE MAKE US PROUD OF YOU ALL. THANK YOU.

>> JUDGE BECERRA: THANK YOU, NEXT UP MS. DIANE WAS KNICK.

>> THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITIES TO SPEAK.

MANY OF YOU HAVE HEARD ME DISCUSS AQUIFER ISSUES FOR DECADES BUT SOME OF YOU, POSSIBLY NOT HEARD THIS INFORMATION BEFORE. I THINK THAT YOU ARE GOING TO SEE A LOT OF ATTENTION PAID TO BUILDING ON THE RECHARGE ZONE IF YOU HAVEN'T ALREADY HEARD. THE CITY OF SAN MARCOS RECENTLY IN AN ISSUE REGARDING BUILDING ON THE RECHARGE ZONE HAD MORE PUBLIC COMMENT THAN THEY'VE EVER HAD. NOS JUST ON AQUIFER BUT ON ANY ISSUE. I WANT YOU TO UNDERSTAND WHY PEOPLE, YOUR CITIZENS ARE SO CONCERNED ABOUT THIS. FIRST OF ALL I WANT TO MAKE IT CLEAR THAT I KNOW A LOT OF YOU REPRESENT, WELL, I THINK ALL OF YOU REPRESENT RURAL AS WELL AS CITY PEOPLE.

AND RURAL PEOPLE PARTICULARLY IN THE TRINITY AND EDWARDS AQUIFER HAVE WELLS THAT DRILL DOWN AND GET THEIR WATER FROM THOSE VERY CLEAN LAYERS WHICH UNDERGROUND, AND THEY DO NOT HAVE ANY TREATMENT ON THEIR WELLS. SO WHAT COMES OUT IN THE WAY OF POLLUTION OR POISON OR DIRT OR IRON OR WHATEVER COMES OUT AND THEY HAVE IT COMING FROM THEIR FAUCETS.

FURTHER, THERE'S NOT A REASONABLE WAY TO TREAT POLLUTION OR BAD OCCURRENCES OF POLLUTION OF THE WATER DOWN IN THE AQUIFER ONCE IT HAPPENS.

THERE'S NO WAY TO FIX THAT. NOW THE WAY THE AQUIFER WORKS, A LOT PEOPLE DON'T REALIZE, IT IS NOT A RESERVOIR OF WATER LIKE A LAKE UNDERGROUND. IT IS A HONEY COMB OF ROCK AND GRAVEL BECAUSE IT WAS FORMED BY ANCIENT SEAS THAT ONCE COVERED TEXAS.

WHERE THERE ARE CRACKS OR FAULTS THAT MIGHT HAPPEN BECAUSE OF THE EARTH MOVED SLIGHTLY, THOSE CRACKS BECOME A DIRECTION THAT THE WATER MOVES. SOMETIMES VERY SWIFTLY, SAY FROM RANCH ROAD 12 OVER TO SPRING LAKE, IT MIGHT HAPPEN IN A FEW HOURS. SOMETIMES BECAUSE OF THE WAY CRACKS GO, THE WATER WILL TRAVEL MORE SLOWLY. IT'LL BE BLOCKED BY BLOCKS OF LIMESTONE THAT MOVE AROUND.

AND IT COULD EVEN BE DIRECTED IN A DIFFERENT DIRECTION DURING DRY SPELTS LIKE WE'RE HAVING RIGHT NOW THAN IN WET SPELLS BECAUSE DIFFERENT CRACKS WOULD HAVE WATER IN THEM. THERE'S ALSO THE ISSUE OF RAINWATER, SOMETIMES BEING SLIGHTLY ACID ICK AND AS IS IT TRICKLES DOWN INTO THE AQUIFER AND RUNS ALONG THESE CRACKS, IT CAN WASH OUT OR DISSOLVE OUT A SECTION EVER THE AQUIFER AND CAUSE QUICK CONDUITS OF WATER. THEY'RE CALLED CONDUITS TO FLOW IMMEDIATELY TO A SPOT.

SO THOSE ARE SOME FACTS ABOUT THE AQUIFER THAT I WANTED TO JUST COVER WITH YOU AND I'LL BE BACK TO TELL

YOU MORE LATER. >> JUDGE BECERRA: THANK YOU, NEXT WE HAVE VENUS WILDER, THAT WILL CONCLUDE THE PUBLIC COMMENTS PORTION AND THEN WHEN WE GO THROUGH THE AGENDA ITEMS I'LL CALL THE OTHER STACK. ARE YOURS IN PUBLIC COMMENTS OR ARE YOU --

>> I'VE BOTH. ONE IN PUBLIC --

>> JUDGE BECERRA: IF YOU'LL PLEASE APPROACH THE PODIUM, VENUS WILDER. GOES -- GOING ONCE, GOING TWICE.

>> THIS COMMENT IS FROM SOMEBODY WHO IS NAMES I DON'T HAVE BUT THE E-MAIL HAS B. L. O. O. G. E. T.

I'M ADDRESSING THE COURT TO SPECIFICALLY DEAL WITH THE OFFICE OF ELECTIONS ADMINISTRATOR AS FOLLOWS: NOTICE THE PRESERVATION OF RECORDS AND SUBSEQUENT PUBLIC INFORMATION REQUEST. I'M REQUESTING UNDER STATE LAW ACCESS TO PHYSICALLY INSPECT ALL ORIGINAL RECORDS AND DOCUMENTS RELATING TO THE 2020 GENERAL ELECTION FOR ALL OF HAYS COUNTY, TEXAS.

THIS REQUEST SHOULD INCLUDE BUT NOT BE LIMITED TO ANY AND ALL RECORDS RELATING TO THE 2020 GENERAL ELECTION, CAST VOTE RECORDS, BALLOT IMAGE, EVERY TYPE OF BALLOT, BALLOT ENVELOPES, TALLY TABULATION RECORDS, CHAIN OF CUSHION DIDOCUMENTATION AND ALL RELATED ITEMS. THIS SERVES AS A NOTICE OF PRESERVATION

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OF ALLBOVE RECORDS UNTIL COMPLETION AND RESOLUTION OF ANY LEGAL AND APPEAL PROCESSES.

PROTECTED ATTORNEY GENERAL'S RECENT OPINION I'M WELL WITHIN MY CIVIL RIGHTS TO THE REQUEST, AND RECEIVE THIS INFORMATION. IT'S A MATTER OF PUBLIC RECORD AND TAXPAYER FUNDED. I EXPECT TRUTH AND TRANSPARENTE IN THE ELECTION PROCESS AS WELL AS THE SAME TRANSPARENCY FROM JENNIFER DOINOFF AND HER STAFF.

MANDATORY SEQUENTIALLY NUMBERED BALLOTS AND JUDGE'S SIGNATURES ON EVERY BALLOT ASPER STATE LAW WILL BEGIN THE PROCESS OF RESTORING CONFIDENCE AND CURRENT TO HAYS COUNTY VOTING PROCESS AND THE OFFICE OF ELECTIONS

ADMINISTRATOR. >> JUDGE?

>> JUDGE BECERRA: ANYTHING ELSE?

>> THAT'S ALL I HAVE FOR PUBLIC.

>> JUDGE BECERRA: YES. >> I WAS GOING TO SAY SINCE WE DON'T HAVE THE CONTACT INFORMATION FOR THAT INDIVIDUAL, IF THEY ARE WATCHING YOU MY WANT TO MENTION WE DO HAVE A FORMAL P. I. A. REQUEST -- A FORMER PUBLIC INFORMATION ACT REQUEST PROCESS AND I WOULD ENCOURAGE WHOM EVER THAT IS SINCE WE DON'T KNOW THE NAME TO GO TO THE WEBSITE FOR THE COUNTY AND GO THROUGH THE PROCESS.

>> JUDGE BECERRA: THANK YOU. >> I DO HAVE HIS ADDRESS SO

I'LL SEND A MESSAGE. >> JUDGE BECERRA: I APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENT, COMMISSIONER BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE WE'RE HAVING REQUESTS PAIRED FOR AND IN THE -- PAID FOR AND NOT SUPPLIED. SO IT IS IMPORTANT THAT WE -- I DON'T KNOW. I BELIEVE WITH ALL THE COMMENTS AND I'M NOT SAYING IN A NEGATIVE WAY BUT ALL THE TIME THAT HAS BEEN SUMED -- CONSUMED IN THIS COURT ON THIS VERY ITEM I BELIEVE I'M GOING TO REACH OUT TO OUR ELECTIONS ADMINISTRATOR AND SEE ABOUT HAVING A WORKSHOP IN THE EVENING WHEN MOST CAN ATTEND SO YOU CAN ASK HER ALL YOUR QUESTIONS AND GET ALL THE DIALOGUE AND THE ANSWERS SO WE CAN SHORTEN THIS REQUEST STUFF. THERE IS ONLY 70 DAYS TO THE ELECTION.

SOME OF THE STUFF, INFORMATION REQUESTS AND BACK AND FORTH IT TAKES TOO LONG AND THERE'S SOMETIMES DELIBERATE AND SOMETIMES ACCIDENTAL FOOT DRAGGING.

DON'T GET WHAT YOU NEED. I PROMISE TO REACH OUT TO OUR ELECTIONS ADMINISTRATOR TO SEE ABOUT A DATE TO HAVE AN EVENING WORKSHOP WHERE SHE CAN ATTEND AND ANSWER QUESTIONS, YES, MA'AM [INDISCERNIBLE]

>> JUDGE BECERRA: TELL ME YOUR NAME? VIRGINIA PARKER.

NO, THAT'S OKAY. IF THERE IS ANYONE ELSE IN THE SAME SPACE, THAT'S WHY I WENT THROUGH THE EXPLANATION AND I'M NOT SAYING IT LIKE A TALK DOWN BUT FEEL FREE TO PIVOT AND WE'LL DO IT THE WE'RE GOING TO HEAR FROM YOU. IT'S JUST YOUR CHOICE. GIVE ME A SECOND. JUST KNOW AS WELL WHEN WE HAVE AGENDA ITEMS THAT HAVE STRONG ENEGY TOWARDS THEM WHETHER THEY BE POSITIVE OR NEGATIVE, I'LL TO RESPECT YOUR TIME, BECAUSE I KNOW WHAT IT'S LIKE TO HAVE TO GO TO WORK AND MULTITASK AND JUGGLE I'LL PULL THE ITEMS FORWARD SO YOU HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO NOT SIT THROUGH ALL OF COURT AND HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK ON IT. [INDISCERNIBLE] I DON'T SEE YOU ON HERE. WHERE IS SHE?

>> I DON'T HAVE HER IN THESE.

>> JUDGE BECERRA: DID YOU FILL OUT ONE OF THESE?

>> I DID. I HANDED IT OVER. >> JUDGE BECERRA: IT'S GOING TO TAKE ME 3 MINGS TO LOOK FOR IT. YOU TOOK THE TIME TO COME HERE. YOU ARE GOING TO BE HEARD. DO FEE A FAVOR, SPEAK YOUR 3 MINUTES THEN FILL ANOTHER ONE OUT.

>> THANK YOU, I'M SO SORRY. >> JUDGE BECERRA: WE MUST

NEVER FORGET THAT. >> THANK YOU. THANK YOU, JUDGE. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONERS FOR ALLOWING US TO SPEAK TO YOU THIS MORNING.

ESPECIALLY ME. THANK YOU. NIE MAIM IS VIRGINIA PARKER, I'M THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR FOR THE SAN MARCOS RIVER FOUNDATION. I'M HERE TO COMMENT ON THE 60 MILLION DOLLAR REQUEST FOR OVER640 ACRES BY LA CIMA, THIS PROPERTY IS 100% EDWARDS AQUIFER RECHARGE ZONE. SEEING CREEK FLOWS THROUGH IT WHICH FLOWS DIRECTLY INTO SPRING LAKE. THE EDWARDS AQUIFER RECHARGE ZONE IS CRITICAL TO FRESH WATER FLOWING DOWN TO THE BAYS AND ESTUARIES. THE EDWARDS AQUIFER PROVIDES DRINKING WATER FOR OVER 2 MILLION PEOPLE IN CENTRAL TEXAS. THE QUESTION TODAY IS NOT IF LA CIMA WILL RECEIVE A FUNDING MECHANISM BUT HOW. BACK IN 2012 OR 13 HAYS COUNTY APPROVED A 98 MILLION DOLLAR PID TO LA CIMA FOR THEIR ORIGINAL 2,550 ACRES MUCH OF WHICH IS OVER THE EDWARD AQUIFER RECHARGE ZONE. THEY HAVE AN AGREEMENT WITH THE CITY OF SAN MARCOS TO BUILD 19% IMPER VOWS COVER OVER THAT 2,550 ACRES WHICH EQUALS

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OVER 484 ACRES OF BUILDINGS, ROOFTOPS AND CONCRETE.

NOW THEY ARE ASKING FOR FORBID. FOR MORE ACREAGE OVER THE RECHARGE ZONE. LAST MONTH THERE WAS A GRASSROOTS PROTEST AGAINST THE ECONOMIC INCENTIVES BY THE CITY FOR THE FILM STUDIO WHICH YOU MIGHT HAVE HEARD ABOUT. THAT FILM STUDIO IS WITHIN THE ORIGINAL DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT FROM BACK IN 2013. SO THAT IS A DONE DEAL BUT THIS, WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TODAY IS NEW. PEOPLE WERE NOT UP SET ABOUT THE FILM STUDIO BUT THE LOCATION BECAUSE OF THE FACT THAT IT IS GOING TO BE PUT OVER VERY SENSITIVE RECHARGE ZONE.

YOUR CONSTITUENTS UNDERSTAND THE IMPORTANCE OF THE RECHARGE ZONE. THEY KNOW THAT ONCE THE ROOF STOPS AND CONCRETE ARE BUILT SOUTHWEST WATER AND WASTEWATER LINES THROUGH THE LIMESTONE IT CANNOT BE UNDER DONE. WE KNOW YOU ALL CARE ABOUT THE NATURAL RESOURCES. THE BENEFITS THAT THINGS LIKE SPRINGS, RIVERS AND NATURE BRING TO OUR COMMUNITY. THE DOLLARS THAT COME TO OUR COMMUNITY BECAUSE OF TOURISM, WE'RE IN A SEVERE DROUGHT. JACOBS WELL QUIT FLOWING. THE SAN MARCOS RIVER IS AT

90 C. S. S. WHICH -- >>> TELL PEOPLE --

>> CUBIC FEET PER SECOND. THAT IS A MEASUREMENT WE USE TO MEASURE THE VELOCITY AND THE FLOW IN A RIVER.

IT'S TIME TO SIGNAL TO THIS DEVELOPER AND OTHERS THAT THE RECHARGE ZONE SPECIFICALLY IS THE ABSOLUTE LAST PLACE THAT THEY NEED TO BE DEVELOPING.

LAST YEAR HAYS COUNTY OVERWHELMINGLY PASSED A PARKS AND OPEN SPACE BOND. PARKS ARE IMPORTANT TO OUR COMMUNITY BUT LA CIMA IS NOT BUILDING A PARK OUT OF THE GOODNESS OF THEIR HEART. THEY'RE BUILDING A PART BECAUSE IN ORDER TO GET A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT FROM THE CITY THEY HAVE TO SET ASIDE OPEN SPACE, THIS AGENDA CAME OUT FRIDAY. I'M ONLY ASKING THAT YOU GIVE THE COMMUNITY A COUPLE MORE WEEKS TO GIVE YOU FEEDBACK BEFORE YOU MAKE THIS DECISION.

THANK YOU. >> JUDGE BECERRA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. PLEASE DON'T FORGET TO FILL OUT THE FORM.

>> I WON'T. >> JUDGE BECERRA: OKAY. AT THIS MOMENT THAT CONCLUSION PUBLIC COMMENTS. SO WHAT I'LL DO IS WE HAVE THIS WORKSHOP THAT I THINK IT IS HONESTLY BEEN SAID NOT THE RIGHT TIME, 10:00 AM. BUT NO MATTER WHAT IT'S POSTED AS SUCH. I CAN'T MOVE IT.

SO THE WORKSHOP IS IN 20 MINUTES ON THIS LA CIMA PROJECT. SO I WILL MOVE THROUGH PRESENTATIONS AND SOME OF THE CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS FOR THE NEXT 20 MINUTES THEN OPEN THAT LA CIMA PROJECT CONVERSATION THEN ALL THESE OTHERS CAN BE HEARD. JUST

[F1. Adopt a proclamation declaring September 2022 as Emergency Preparedness Month in Hays County. BECERRA/MIKE JONES]

TO GIVE YOU THE SIGN POSTS. SO DOCTOR PLEASE OPEN F. 1.

>> F. 1 ADOPT A PROCLAMATION DECLARING SEPTEMBER 2022 AS EMERGENCY PREPAREDNESS MONTH IN HUNT.

>> SO MOVED. >> SECOND.

>> JUDGE BECERRA: PLEASE READ IT.

>> YES. WHEREAS HAYS COUNTY RESIDENTS, BUSINESSES AND ORGANIZATIONS ARE UNFORTUNATELY OFTEN CALLED UPON TO ENDURE THE POSSIBILITY AND THE REALITY OF EMERGENCY SITUATIONS SUCH AS WILD FIRES, FLOODS, FREEZES, GRITS, PEOPLES, CYBERATTACKS AND HAS AROUND OURS MATERIALS ACCIDENTS AND WHEREAS LIVES HAVE BEEN LOST OR IMMENS PROPERTY DAMAGE HAS BEEN CAUSED BY FLOODING, FREEZING AND THE FIRES AMEND WHEREAS ALL RESIDENTS SHOULD INSURE THEY ARE PREPARED TO FACE THOSE THREATS FOR THE BEST POSSIBLE OUTCOME TO REDUCE THE LOSS OF LIFE AND PROPERTY, AND WHEREAS RESIDENCE ARE ENCOURAGED TO DEVELOP AND PRACTICE EMERGENCY EVACUATIONS PLANS WHICH CLUE A COMMUNICATION STRATEGY, EMERGENCY RENDVIEW LOCATION, A PREPAREDNESS KIT FOR WORK, HOME AND TRAVEL TAKING INTO CONSIDERATION THE NEEDS OF THE MEMBERS OF THEIR HOUSE HOLTS INCLUDING THEIR PETS AND WHEREAS RESIDENTS ARE ENCOURAGED TO FREE COMMUNITY RESPONSE TEAM CLASSES AND WHEREAS POTENTIAL THREATS MAY CHANGE RAPIDLY AND RESIDENT MAY STAY INFORMED ON HEYED INFORMED.COMBY REGISTERING THEIR ADDRESSES AND WARN CENTRAL TEXAS.ORG AND BY FOLLOWING INSTRUCTIONS FROM LOCAL OFFICIALS AND FIRST RESPONDERS.

NOW THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED THAT THE HAYS COUNTY COMMISSIONERS COURT DOES HEREBY PROCLAIM SEPTEMBER 2022 AS EMERGENCY PREPAREDNESS MONTH AND CALLS UPON THE RESIDENTS, BUSINESSES AND ORGANIZATIONS OF HAYS COUNTY TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF PREPAREDNESS PLANNING, INFORMATION AVAILABLE THROUGH FEDERAL, STATE AND LOCAL EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT OFFICES AND TO ATTEND THE HAYS COUNTY OFFICE OF EMERGENCY SERVICES PREPAREDNESS FAIR ON SEPTEMBER 10, 2022, AT THE HAYS CONSOLIDATED INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICT

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PERFORMING ARTS CENTER LOCATED AT 979 POLARS CROSSING IN KILE, TEXAS AND REGISTER YOUR ADDRESS FOR EMERGENCY NOTIFICATIONS AT WARN CENTRAL TEXAS.ORG.

ADOPTED THE 30TH DAY OF AUGUST, 2022.

>> JUDGE BECERRA: AS THE DIRECTOR OF EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT FOR HAYS COUNTY I'VE THE PRIVILEGE OF ASKING MY RIGHT HAND MAN MIKE JONES TO APPROACH THE PODIUM.

WHILE HE DOES THAT, I'LL SAY WE'RE CONTINUOUSLY SHARING HOW, HOW AND YOU SAW THIS PROCLAMATION LACED WITH WAYS WITH WHICH WE CAN BE NEIGHBORS THAT ARE USEFUL TO ONE ANOTHER IN WAYS THAT WE CAN'T IMAGINE. THIS LAST VIDEO THAT MIKE AND I MADE WAS ABOUT NARCAN. WE LOST 3 YOUNG STUDENTS IN HEYS I. S. D. OVER OPIOID OVERDOSE.

NARCAN IS A SIMPLE NASAL SPRAY THAT WILL -- IT'S A SIMPLE NASAL SPRAY THAT WILL MORE OFTEN THAN NOT PULL YOU OUT OF THAT FAIT ALITY. YOU CAN BE THE ONE BEFORE 911 AND HERE IS A GREAT EXAMPLE IN THIS COURT AS WE HAVE IT FILLED OF HOW WE CAN AGREE AND DISAGREE ON A MYRIAD OF ISSUES. I'VE BEEN MARRIED 30 YEARS, MY WIFE AND I DON'T AGREE ON EVERYTHING, IT ISE A. O K.

NOT TO AGREE BUT LET'S NOT LOSE DURING THOSE DISAGREEMENTS LET'S NOT LOSE THE MOMENT TO SEE EACH OTHER WITH LOVING EYES, TO RESPOND FOR ONE ANOTHER, COMMUNITY, COMMUNITY EMERGENCY RESPONSE TEAM. I WANT TO MAKE SURE I SAID IT RIGHT. THE SIRT PROGRAM IS AN ORGANIZATION LITERALLY OF YOUR NEIGHBORS VOLUNTEERING TO HELP ONE ANOTHER BECAUSE GOD KNOWS, IF ONE OF YOU FELL OVER RIGHT NOW FOR WHATEVER REASON YOU HAVE TO KNOW THIS. IT'S NOT GOING TO MATTER WHAT YOU SAID OR WHAT YOU STOOD FOR. WE'RE ALL GOING TO COME AROUND AND HELP YOU IN THE BEST WEAR WE CAN -- WAY WE CAN. SO LET'S REMEMBER IN THOSE MOMENTS, PLEASE, EVEN IN THIS FULL COURTROOM WITH MUCH DISAGREEMENT LET'S REMEMBER THESE MOMENTS TO COME TOGETHER AS COMMUNITY MUST

BE CHERISHED. MIKE. >> THANK YOU, JUDGE, COURT.

MIKE JONES, EMERGENCY SERVICES. EACH YEAR WE COME TO YOU WITH A PROCLAMATION OF SEPTEMBER BECAUSE SEPTEMBER IS OUR PREPAREDNESS MONTH. WE TRY TO DO A LITTLE MORE THAN HAVE A PROCLAMATION, WE TRY TO ENCOURAGE CITIZENS TO COME OUT FOR A EVENT. THE PERFORMING EVENT CENTER IN KYLE WHERE YOU CAN TOUCH THINGS, LEARN HOW TO PREPARE YOUR HOME, YOUR FAMILY.

WE KNOW PREPARING IN ADVANCE CAN PREVENT LOSSES AND ANXIETY AND THE BEST TIME TO PREPARE IS NOW WHEN YOU DON'T HAVE A DISASTER. OUR COMMUNICATIONS FOR HAYS COUNTY IN COLLABORATION WITH OUR OFFICE PUT TOGETHER A 30 DAYS AND 30 DAYS AND 30 DAYS AND 30 WAYS ON FACEBOOK NEXT DOOR.COM AS WELL AS HAYED INFORMED WEBSITE WHERE CITIZENS CAN SEE AND GET IDEAS HOW TO PREPARE THEMSELVES AND THEIR HOME. WITH THE COURTATES PERMISSION I LIKE TO BRING UP MICHELE, OUR EMERGENCY PREPAREDNESS COORDINATOR TO EXPRESS THINGS WE'RE GOING

TO BE DOING HERE. >> JUDGE BECERRA: ABSOLUTELY. WE YIELD THE PODIUM TO YOU. YOU'VE 3 MINUTES TO SPEAK, NO, JUST KIDDING, STATE YOUR NAME AND TITLE FOR THE VIEWING PUBLIC.

>> GOOD MORNING, MY NAME IS MICHELE VEEING AAS, I'M THE HAYS COUNTY EMERGENCY PREPAREDNESS COORDINATOR, IF YOU FOR GIVING ME THIS TIME. I'M SO EXCITED ABOUT THIS YEAR BECAUSE THIS YEAR HAS GROWN IMMENSELY, WE NOW HAVE TWO HOSPITALS THAT WILL BE THERE AND WE'LL BE TALKING ABOUT THE FENTANYL SITUATION. SO WE'LL BE BRINGING SOME NEW BLOOD TO THE FAIR. WE WANT TO TALK

ABOUT -- >> JUDGE BECERRA: DID YOU HEAR -- WE'RE BRINGING NEW BLOOD TO THE FAIR?

>> WE'RE IN FACT, WE'RE BLOOD. WE ARE LOOKING FOR BLOOD DONATIONS WHIRL WE'RE OUT AT THE PREPAREDNESS FAIR. WE HAVE ROUGHLY 70 SOMETHING VENDORS THAT WILL BE EITHER DEMONSTRATING, SHOWING OFTEN THEIR ASSETS, DISPLAYING SOMETHING TO HELP HAYS COUNTY BECOME BETTER RESILIENT AND BETTER PREPARED FOR THE NEXT INCIDENT. SO C.P.R. TAKE 10, STOP THE BLEED. LET'S SEE WHAT ELSE WE HAVE. WE'LL BE HAVING FIRE MARSHAL PANEL. THIS IS NEW. WE WANTED TO BRING SOME FUN TO THE FAIR. FIRE MARSHAL IS HERE, I'LL NOT ASK HIM TO COME UP BUT WE WANTED TO SO SOMETHING FUN BECAUSE OF THE FIRES AND THE BRUSHFIRES WE'VE HAD AND THE WILD FIRES WE'VE BEEN EXPERIENCING SO WE WANTED TO CLEAR UP SOME OF THE CONFUSION OVER THE BURN BANS.

WHAT TO DO DURING A WILD FIRE, HOW YOU CAN BETTER PREPARE YOUR HOUSE, YOUR RANCH, HOW YOU CAN BETTER PREPARE YOUR ANIMALS IN CASE WE NEED TO QUICKLY EVACATE.

WE SAW THAT UNDER A EXPERIENCED THIS GIVING US

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OPEN ARMS TO HELP GET OUR ANIMALS QUICKLY TO A SAFE SPOT. THESE ARE THE THINGS WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT DOING.

THANK YOU. >> JUDGE BECERRA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I ASKED MIKE WHENEVER I FOUND OUT ABOUT THE FATALITIES OF OUR YOUTHS IN OUR COUNTY I ASK MIKE TO ORDER NARCAN TO HELP DISPENSE AND MY HOPE, I'M SURE IT WILL BE MADE AVAILABLE TO DISTRIBUTE AT THIS EVENT AS WELL. JUST KNOW WE'RE ON ALL FRONTS AS A COMMUNITY AND AS AS A COUNTY WITH ALL THE DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS WORKING TOGETHER WITH OUR HEALTH DEPARTMENT AND EVERYONE ELSE TO MAKE SURE WE'RE DOING THE BEST WE CAN FOR YOU THROUGH THIS

EMERGENCY PREPAREDNESS FAIR. >> JUDGE BECERRA: JUDGE, SINCE YOU BROUGHT THAT UP, I DID WANT TO MENTION I'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT OVER THE LAST WEEK WITH COMMISSIONER JONES. AND WHEN WE COME BACK ON SEPTEMBER 20TH AND LOOK AT OUR BUDGET, I ANTICIPATE HAVING AN AGENDA ITEM OR DURING THE CONSIDERATION OF THAT AGENDA ITEM HAVING A CONVERSATION RELATIVE TO AN OVERALL EDUCATION AND OUTREACH EFFORT ON BEHALF OF THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT. I MENTIONED THIS TO MIKE YESTERDAY. I DON'T KNOW IF EVERYONE IN THE AUDIENCE IS AWARE OR YOURSELF, BY HAYS C. I. S. D. HAS DONE A PHENOMENAL JOB OVER THE LAST SEVERAL WEEKS OF DEVELOPING CURRICULUM. THEY PRODUCED THE FIRST OF SEVERAL VIDEOS THEY PLAN ON DOING ON EDUCATION AND OUTREACH FOR BOTH MIDDLE SCHOOL AND HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS. THE EDUCATION AND OUTREACH VIDEOS THEY PRODUCED SO FAR HAVE BEEN SO SUCCESSFUL WHENEVER THEY RULY RELEASED THE FIRST ONE LAST WEEK WE'VE HAD LITERALLY DOZENS OF SCHOOLS REACH OUT AND ASK THEM HOW, IF THEY COULD USE THOSE. I MEAN, I DON'T JUST MEAN LOCALLY. I MEAN NATIONWIDE.

SO WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT THAT PARTNERSHIP AND I'LL HAVE MORE DETAILS ON THE 20TH.

>> JUDGE BECERRA: YEAH, WE'VE BEEN PRAISING ALL INVOLVED. EVEN IN OUR OWN FOOTAGE THAT WE CREATED.

PRAISING ALL THOSE PROMOTING THE INFORMATION AND SHARING INFORMATION. WE MUST COME TOGETHER TO SUPPORT OUR COMMUNITY AND IN EVERY WAY WE CAN. THANK YOU BOTH VERY MUCH. PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

>> JUDGE BECERRA: YES. IT'S CUSTOMARY, COME UP FOR THE

PICK. >> THERE IS TWO CERT TRAINS THAT START NEXT MONTH IN OCTOBER. IF ANYONE DOES WANT TO PARTICIPATE IN SIRT WE HAVE A SERIES OF TRAININGS EITHER IN THE EVENING THAT RUN THROUGH NOVEMBER OR EVERY SATURDAY. THE FIRST 8TH AND 15TH AND YOU CAN GET SIRT CERTIFIED DURING THOSE TRAININGS.

[PAUSE] >> JUDGE BECERRA: PLEASE

[Items G1 - G3]

OPEN AGENDA ITEMS G. 1, 2, AND 3.

>> G. 1 APPROVE PAVEMENT OF COUNTY INVOICES.

G. 2, APPROVE THE APPOINTMENT OF JURY CHECKS.

G. 3, APPROVE THE PAYMENT OF THE AUGUST 31,2022, PAYROLL DISBURSEMENTS IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $4,185,000 EFFECTIVE AUGUST 31,2022, AND POST TOTALS FOR WAGES, WITHHOLDINGS, DEDUCTIONS AND BENEFITS ON THE HAYS COUNTY WEBSITE ONCE FINALIZED.

>> SO MOVED. >> SECOND.

>> JUDGE BECERRA: PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

[G4. Approve the reappointment of Clint Garza to the Board of Directors of the West Travis County Public Utility Agency (the "WTCPUA"), term ending September 2026. SMITH]

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PLEASE. >> G. 4. APPROVE THE REAPPOINTMENT OF CLINT GARZA TO THE BRITISH -- BOARD OF DIRECTORS OF THE WEST TRAVIS COUNTY PUBLIC UTILITY AGENCY

TERM ENDING SEPTEMBER 2026. >> SO MOVED.

>> SECOND. >> JUDGE BECERRA: SO, SIR --

>> DO YOU HAVE A PUBLIC COMMENT?

>> OKAY. SORRY. >> JUDGE BECERRA: WE'VE ONE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK, MR. DAN LYON.

>> THANK YOU, JUDGE BECERRA. I KNOW THAT CLINT GARZA WAS HERE FOR A LONG TIME. AND JUST LET ME STATE I'VE NOTHING AGAINST CLINT PERSONALLY, BUT I RECENTLY SAW A REPORT FROM K. X. A. N. HAS TO DO WITH THE APPROVAL OF 180 MILLION GALLONS OF WATER USED AND WHOEVER SEEN THIS, FORGIVE ME IF I DON'T GET THIS ALL STRAIGHT BUT APPARENTLY THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS OF THE WEST TRAVIS COUNTY PUBLIC UTILITY AGENCY APPROVED USING DRINKING WATER TO SUPPLEMENT WASTEWATER WHICH WAS ORIGINALLY SUPPOSED TO BE USED ON A GOLF COURSE.

AND, YOU KNOW, LIKE OTHERS HAVE REPORTED JACOBS WELL HAS GONE DRY. THE WATER IS NOT LIMITLESS.

AND THERE SEEMS TO BE A LOT OF CLOSE CONNECTIONS BETWEEN PEOPLE ON THIS UTILITY BOARD. I KNOW WE GOT PRESIDENT SCOTT ROBERTS, HE IS THE OTHER THAN OF SALT LICK. APPARENTLY HE HOSTED MARK JOAN'S FUND-RAISER, GAVE HIM HIM 3,000 PLUS FOOD. WE HAVE THE SECRETARY TREASURER WALT SMITH AND NOW WE'VE CLINT GARZA, 3 OF THE 5 PEOPLE ON THIS BOARD. AND I REALLY THINK THAT THEY ARE TOO CHUMMY BASICALLY. PUT IT KOLL EEK YALLY. I DO NOT THINK THIS IDEA OF GIVING AWAY VALUABLE DRINKING WATER IN, YOU KNOW, THE CRISIS THAT WE'RE IN. WE'RE IN A DROUGHT. NOT ONLY THAT, EVEN WITHOUT THE DROUGHT, THERE IS SUCH GROWTH THAT WE CAN'T AFFORD TO USE CLEAN DRINKING WATER ON GOLF COURSES. AND THIS IS JUST ONE OF THE BAD DECISIONS THAT I'VE SEEN K. X. A. N.

PICKED UP ON IT. SOMEBODY ELSE ON THE COMMISSIONERS COURT MIGHT KNOW MORE ABOUT THIS THAN I DO. AND IF THEY WANT TO ELUCIDATE WHAT'S GOING ON HERE, I ASK THEM PLEASE DO, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> JUDGE BECERRA: THANK YOU, MR. DAN LYON. WE'LL BEGIN

WITH -- >> THANK YOU, JUDGE. I CAN ADDRESS SOME OF MR. LYON'S CONCERNS AS WELL.

BY WAY OF THE APPOINTMENT LET ME START OFF WITH THAT. % STATUTORY EACH MEMBER, THERE IS 3 ENTITIES THAT MAKE UP THE WEST TRAVIS COUNTY P. U. A. BOARD OF DIRECTORS.

THE CITY -- PARDON ME THE CITY OF B. K. HAYS COUNTY

AND THE MUDD. THE MUDD -- >> JUDGE BECERRA: TELL

PEOPLE WHAT MUDD STANDS FOR. >> MUNICIPAL UTILITY DESCRIES DISTRICT. HAYS COUNTY GETS 2 APPOINTMENTS.

THE OTHER CITY GETS 2 APPOINTMENTS.

THE 2 APPOINTMENTS WE ACTUALLY HAVE HERE IN HOW MANY TIMESY ARE SCOTT ROBERTS AND MYSELF. I'VE SERVED ON THE BOARD. I REPLACED COMMISSIONER WHICH IS GNAT IN 2021 AFTER I TOOK OFFICE HERE. HE TOLD THAT POSITION FROM THE INCEPTION OF THE BOARD BECAUSE IT WAS IN HIS PRECINCT. WHAT I CAN TELL YOU IS WE'VE NO CONTROL OVER WHO IS APPOINTED BY THE CITY OF B. K. MR. GARZA IS AN APPOINTEE OF THE CITY OF B.

K. WE'RE RATIFYING THIS APPOINTMENT. WE'RE 23409 MAKING THE NAME. BY WAY OF THE BY LAUS OR BY WAY OF STATUTE WE HAVE THE APPROVAL PROCESS FOR THEIR APPOINTMENT. SO THE ONLY APPOINTEES WE PUT FORWARD OR HAVE PUT FORWARD IN THE PAST ARE MYSELF AND MR. ROBERTS.

WHAT I'LL TELL YOU IS THAT AS FAR AS THE WATER IS CONCERNED, FOR THE GOLF COURSE AND I THINK THAT K.

X. A. N. DID A POOR GOOD. THEY'RE NOT A DIRECT CUSTOMER OF THE WEST TRAVIS P. U. A. --

>> JUDGE BECERRA: THE P. U. A. IT THE WEST TRAVIS COUNTY PUBLIC UTILITY AUTHORITY WHICH WE MENTIONED A COUPLE OF TIMES HERE, THEY ARE A CUSTOMER OF THE CITY MUCH DRINK SPRINGS WHICH IS A WHOLE SALE CUSTOMER AND THAT

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FACILITY ITSELF HAS A SUPPLEMENTAL CONTRACT IS MY UNDERSTANDING THROUGH THE WHOLESALE PROVIDER CONTRACT FOR THE CITY OF DRIPPING SPRINGS. SO THEY'RE IN THE A DIRECT CUSTOMER OF THE P. U. A. WE'RE UNDER WATER RESTRICTIONS RIGHT NOW. IN OUR PORTION OF THE COUNTY.

I CAN'T REALLY SPEAK FOR THE SAN MARCOS PORTION OF THE COUNTY ABOUT I CAN TELL YOU IN MY AREA ALL OF THE CUSTOMERS OF THE P. U. A. WHETHER THEY BE RESIDENTIAL OR COMMERCIAL ARE UNDER WATER RESTRICTIONS.

IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THEY WERE CUT BACK TO ABOUT 40% OF USAGE. BUT WE DON'T DICTATE WHENEVER THE WATER GOES GOES THROUGH THE PIPE WHAT HAPPENS AT THE END.

THE FACT IS THAT THE BIGGEST JUMP IN CONSUMER, IN CONSUMPTION OF WATER IN OUR ENTIRE AREA IS DURING THE JUNE, JULY, AUGUST TIME PERIOD. AND BY FAR IT'S IRRIGATION AND RESIDENTIAL, RESIDENTIAL AREAS AND SO IT'S, I CAN TELL YOU I'VE KNOCKED ON DOORS IN THE LAST 3 WEEKS WHENEVER I'VE DRIVEN BY AND SEE LAWNS THAT LOOK KELLY GREEN IN THIS WEATHER. I HAVEN'T RUN MY IRRIGATION SYSTEM IN ALMOST FOUR MINE. MY LOOKS ABOUT THE SAME COLOR AS THIS CARPET BUT IT'S THE RIGHT THING TO DO. WE'VE, WITH THOSE RESTRICTIONS, THE P.

U. A. CUSTOMER BASE THEY HAVE THROUGH THEIR WHOLESALE CUSTOMERS AS WELL AS THEIR RETAIL CUSTOMERS THEY REACHED OUT AND INSTITUTED WATER RESTRICTIONS ON THE CUSTOMERS AND BEGAN ISSUING FINES FOR THOSE.

I HOPE THAT CREATES SOME CLARIFICATION OR SOME BACKGROUND ON THAT SITUATION AND WHERE THE APPOINTMENT STANDS BECAUSE AGAIN THIS IS US APPROVING THE APPOINTMENT OF THE CITY OF B. K. NOT US APPOINTING HIM AND ASKING FOR THE APPROVAL OF THE REST OF THE BOARD.

>> JUDGE BECERRA: THEN YOU WERE GOING TO SAY SOMETHING.

WAS THAT ALREADY INCLUDED? >> YES.

>> JUDGE BECERRA: YOU ARELINE. COMMISSIONERS QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, CONCERNS?

>> THIS IS JUST US APPROVING THEIR APPOINTEE, IS THAT

CORRECT? >> ONE OTHER THING I WOULD LIKE TO SAY IS THAT YOU KNOW, FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO ARE NOT FAMILIAR AND THIS ISN'T -- I'M PROBABLY BROACHING A LITTLE BIT FAR ON OUR AGENDA ITEM BUT FOR THOSE OF YOU NOT FAMILIAR, WE'VE FINISHED RECENTLY A C.

I. P. WHICH IS A CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN. A TEN YEAR OUTLOOK FOR THE WEST TRAVIS COUNTY PUBLIC UTILITY AUTHORITY. AND CURRENTLY THE WATER SOURCE FOR THE WEST TRAVIS COUNTY PUBLIC UTILITY AUTHORITY IS LIKEY LAKE TRAVIS. IT'S NOT AQUIFER BASED. I BELIEVE IN HAYS COUNTY, THIS MAY BE WRONG, OF ALL WHOLE SALE CUSTOMERS THAT WE HAVE, ONLY ONE OF THOSE CUSTOMERS SUPPLEMENTS WITH WELLS. THEY'VE AGAIN HAD TO GO THROUGH THE HAYS TRINITY GROUNDWATER DISTRICT FOR THE WELLS AND THE PUMPING FROM THOSE IS PART OF OUR MAX ALLOWABLE DAILY USAGE OF THE AQUIFER. SO I CAN'T TELL YOU HOW MUCH THEY USE BECAUSE AGAIN, IT'S NOT WHAT THE WEST TRAVIS COUNTY P. U. A. IS USING.

THOSE ARE INDIVIDUAL CUSTOMERS OUT THERE THAT HAVE THEIR OWN COMMERCIAL WELLS, AND BE BETTER SUITED TO FIND THAT OUT FROM THE WATER CONSERVATION DISTRICT BUT IN THE 10 YEAR PLAN, THERE'S ANTICIPATED THAT WE WOULD GO AND WE, THE WEST TRAVIS COUNTY PUBLIC UTILITY AUTHORITY WOULD GO AND FIND ALTERNATIVE ADDITIONAL WATER SOURCES OUTSIDE OF THE AQUIFER. SO THAT'S A COMMITMENT THAT MYSELF AND OTHER MEMBERS OF THAT BOARD HAVE MADE TO INSURE THAT WE DON'T HAVE AN IMPACT ON THE AQUIFER HERE AS WE HAVE IN THE PAST BECAUSE WE DON'T USE AQUIFER WATER IN OUR SYSTEM.

>> JUDGE BECERRA: HOW DOES THE LOWER COLORADO RIVER AUTHORITY PLAY INTO THIS UTILITY AUTHORITY?

>> SO THE LOWER COLORADO RIVER AUTHORITY USED TO BE FOR THOSE -- AGAIN WE'RE GETTING WAY OFF OUR --

>> JUDGE BECERRA: ANSWER THE QUESTION. WE'LL MOVE ON.

>> THE WEST TRAVIS P. U. A. WAS FOUNDED BY PURCHASING THE RETAIL WATER DISTRIBUTION SYSTEM OF THE LOWER COLORADO RIVER AUTHORITY BECAUSE THERE WAS A THREAT THAT FOREIGN ENTITIES WOULD PURCHASE IT WHENEVER THE LOWER COLORADO RIVER AUTHORITY WENT, DECIDED TO GET OUT OF THE RETAIL WATER BUSINESS AND LOCAL GOVERNMENTAL ENTITIES STEPPED UP IN ORDER TO INSURE THE FUTURE OF WATER IN OUR AREA ON BEHALF OF OUR

CITIZENS. >> JUDGE BECERRA: THANK YOU.

SO IF THERE ARE NO OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS, CALL THE ROLL.

[Items G5 & G6]

>> JUDGE BECERRA: NO. PLEASE OPEN AGENDA ITEM G.

5, 6, 5 AND 6. >> G. 5 APPROVE OUT OF STATE TRAVEL FOR RECORDS PROGRAM ADMINISTRATOR STEPHANIE

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ROBINSON TO ATTEND THETIMER NEW WORLD ADVISORY BOARD MEETING ON SEPTEMBER 20-21, 2022. IN TROY, MICHIGAN.

G. 6, AUTHORIZE PAYMENT TO ADVANCE AUTO PARTS IN THE AMOUNT OF $625.55 FOR THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE RELATED TO THE PURCHASE OF MOLTER OIL WHERE NO PURCHASE ORDER WAS ISSUED AS REQUIRED PER HAYS COUNTY PURCHASING POLICY.

>> SO MOVED. >> SECOND.

>> JUDGE BECERRA: PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

[Items K1 & K3]

PLEASE OPEN K. 1. >> K. 1. 10:00 A.M. CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING ON THE CREATION OF LA CIMA NORTH

PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT. >> JUDGE BECERRA: I'LL OPEN PUBLIC HEARING. THOSE WISHING TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS AGENDA ITEM, I'M FIRST GOING TO GO THROUGH THAT HAVE SIGNED UP. IF THERE IS ANYONE ELSE, I'LL CALL YOU UP. BEGIN WITH MR. DAN LYON.

>> THANK YOU, JUDGE BECERRA. I WOULD LIKE IT TO BE NOTED THAT ON THE AUGUST 9TH, WHEN Y'ALL SETTED TIME AND FLAYES OF THE HEARING FOR -- PLACE OF THE HEARING FOR THIS HEARING TODAY YOU SET IT AT 9:00 AM AND IT'S NOW 10:00 AM. YES, I'M TRYING TO THROW A WRENCH IN THE MONKEY WORKS. ALL RIGHT. TODAY YOU WILL DECIDE THE FATE OF THE LA CIMA P. I.D.'S. I WOULD HAVE SPOKEN ON THIS SUBJECT ON AUGUST 9TH HAD I EVERYONE TREATMENT THAT LA CIMA NORTH WOULD ABUTT COUNTRY ESTATES. I THOUGHT LA CIMA NORTH WAS CONTIGUOUS TO THE ORIGINAL LA CIMA DEVELOPMENT. IF THIS IS APPROVED TRAFFIC WILL INCREASE EXPONENTIALLY AT WHAT I CONSIDER THE MOST DANGEROUS UNREGULATED INTERSECTION IN HAYS COUNTY.

THAT IS OLD RANCH ROAD 12 AND WONDER WORLD DRIVE. AND I KNOW I HAVE HEARD THAT THE STATE WILL NOT APPROVE AT TRAFFIC LIGHT UNTIL SOMEBODY DIES AT THAT INTERSECTION.

TRUE OR NOT. I'M NOT GOING TO BE THE FIRST ONE TO DIE.

THERE I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD HAVE A HUMAN SACRIFICE BEFORE WE CAN GET A TRAFFIC LIGHT THERE BUT THAT IS ANOTHER SUBJECT. ALL RIGHT. THERE ARE A NUMBER OF QUESTIONS HERE. WHERE WILL THE WATER COME FROM? HOW LONG WILL IT TAKE TO PUT IN THE SEWER SYSTEM? WILL THE NEW ROADS BE TIED INTO EXISTING ROADS IN COUNTRY ESTATES? WHAT ABOUT ELECTRICAL SERVICES? WHERE WILL THE ROAD CONNECT? WHAT WILL BE THE DENSITY OF HOUSES PER ACRE? THESE ARE YOU A OF THE PROBLEMS CAUSED BY ONE OF THESE P. I.D.'S. AS USUAL GREED IS WINNING OUT OVER GOOD STEWARTSHIP AND COMMON SENSE, FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND THESE PROPOSED P. I.D.'S ARE DIRECTLY OVER THE EDWARDS AQUIFER RECHARGE ZONE. HOW MUCH IMPERSONALLABLE GROUND COVER WILL BE ADDED WITH THESE P.

I.D.'S, THERE ARE TOO MANY UNKNOWNS TO APPROVE THESE P.

I.D.'S, HAS AN ARCHEOLOGICAL STUDY BEEN DONE? HAVE YOU CHECK THED WITH THE INDIGENOUS SCULPTURE TO SEE IF ARTIFACTS HAVE BEEN FOUND? WHAT IF ARTIFACTS ARE FOUND DURING CONSTRUCTION? I LIKE TO SAY THESE ARE A FEW OF THE QUESTIONS THAT I HAVE TO ASK AND THE LADY THAT CAME BEFORE ME ASKED FOR ANOTHER TWO WEEKS. I AGREE WITH HER. WE SHOULD HAVE AT LEAST 2 MORE WEEKS BEFORE THIS COMES UP AGAIN,

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> JUDGE BECERRA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. [APPLAUSE]

>> JUDGE BECERRA: DOCTOR CARDENAS, SINCE WE HAVE, WE'RE GOING TO BE MOST EFFICIENT AND SINCE WE HAVE% TWO ITEMS TO OPEN AT 10:00 I ASK THAT YOU OPEN K. 3 AS

WELL. >> W. 2 CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING ON THE CREATION OF LA CIMA SOUTH PUBLIC

IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT. >> JUDGE BECERRA: I'LL OPEN THAT ONE AS WELL. SO ANYONE THAT HAS SIGNED UP FOR K. 1 AND K. 3, WE'LL READ THROUGH AND GIVE YOU THOSE 3 MINUTES. AND KNOW THAT I DIDN'T SKIP K. 2. I'LL GO BACK TO K. 2 SO YOU KNOW.

SO NEXT UP WE HAVE JESSICA AMAYA, PLEASE APPROACH THE

PODIUM. >> GOOD MORNING, EVERYONE.

SO EVERYONE HAS BEEN SAYING WE, THE CITY OF SAN MARCOS ALREADY APPROVED ABOUT A MEASURE TO GIVE TAX BREAK TO LA CIMA WHEN THEY WERE CONSTRUCTING THEIR STUDIO PROJECT. THIS RESULTED IN ONE OF THE

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LARGEST PROTESTS SAN MARCOS HAS EVER SEEN.

THE CITY OF SAN MARCOS DID FAIL US AND WE HOPE THAT YOU DON'T FAIL US AS WELL. THERE ARE MANY ISSUES WITH THIS PETITION. MAINLY THAT LA CIMA IS BASICALLY DOING A WOLF IN SHEEP'S CLOTHING WITH THIS.

IT TALKS ABOUT HOW THIS IS SUPPOSED TO BE A PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT PROJECT BUT IT'S ANYTHING BUT. AS WE'VE ALREADY SEEN THERE ARE ISSUES WITH NOT ONLY FURTHER CONDUCTING INVESTIGATION IN THIS AREA BOTH CULTURALLY ANTIQUE LOGICALLY BUT YOU HAVE TO CONSIDER FIRST PROBLEMS WITH THE AREAS AS WELL AS FINANCIALLY FOR THE CITY. NOBODY REALLY HAS SAID THEY WANT THIS BESIDES LA CIMA, I'VE ONLY SEEN PROTESTS AGAINST LA CIMA CONSTRUCTION, WHETHER THAT BE WITH THE STUDIO OR WITH THESE PUBLIC LANDS. LIKE EVERYONE SAID, THIS IS OVER THE RECHARGE ZONE. YOU HAVE TO CONSIDER NOT ONLY THEIR WATER WON'T GO ARE BE GOING INTO THE EDWARDS AQUIFER BUT COULD BE CAUSING FLOODS, WHEN YOU PUT SOMETHING OVER THE RECHARGE ZONE IT CHOOSES INSTEAD TO GO OUT WHICH CAUSES MORE FLOODS, WE'VE SEEN THAT WITH THE CLIMATE CHANGE THAT HAS BEEN HAPPENING, IF YOU REMEMBER THE HIGHLAND FLOOD HOUSES WERE DESTROYED SWEPT AWAY.

PEOPLE WERE HOMELESS FOR A GOOD WHILE.

WITH THIS CONSTRUCTION OVER THE RECHARGE ZONE THOSE PROBLEMS ARE ONLY GOING TO GET WORSE, IT'S NOT ONLY DANGEROUS IN TERMS OF WHERE PEOPLE ARE GOING TO GET CLEAN DRINKING WATER. DANGEROUS IN TERMS OF WHERE THE WATER IS GOING TO GO AND WHOA HOUSES ARE GOING TO BE SWEPT AWAY. YOU ALSO HAVE TO CONSIDER THAT A LOT MUCH THE CONSTRUCTION -- OF CONSTRUCTION, IT DOESN'T HAVE ANY STIPULATIONS TO WHAT IT'S GOING TO BE IN TERMS OF THIS PETITION. IT DOESN'T HAVE ANY STANDARDS.

SO WHEN YOU BUILD ALL OF THESE THINGS THEY'RE PROPOSING TO BUILD COMMUNITY FACILITY, SWIMMING POOLS, WALKWAY, LIGHTING BENCHES, 9 IRRIGATION, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HOW THAT IS MAINLY PEOPLE WATERING THEIR LANDS, LA CIMA IS NOT GOING TO LET THEIR LANDS BEING DULLENNED.

BROWN. SO BACK TO THE BIG ISSUE, TOO, NOT TO MENTION THE LIGHTING. IF THIS IS MAINLY GOING TO BE UNDEVELOPED LAND ALREADY, LIGHTING POLLUTION IS A HUGE ISSUE AS WELL. BOTH AESTHETICALLY ANTIQUE LOGICALLY. AND LIKE I SAID THERE IS NOT REALLY BEEN ANY STIPULATIONS. WE HAVEN'T SEEN IF THIS IS A LAND THAT HAS ANY, YOU KNOW, ANY ENDANGERED SPECIES, ANY NATIVE SPECIES, IF IT HAS ANY CULTURAL VALUE. I THINK YOU'LL FIND THAT NOBODY IN THE HAYS COUNTY DISTRICT AS FAR AS CONSTITUENTS GO IS REALLY FOR THIS. LIKE WE'VE SAID BEFORE WE ALREADY SAW THE DEMONSTRATION THAT SAN MARCOS RESIDENTS HAD, 245 INCLUDED PEOPLES' FAMILIES HOB HERE FOR GENERATIONS WHOSE FAMILIES WERE WORRIED ABOUT THE COST 6 HOUSING GOING UP SO THEY'D HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT MOVING HOT. THOSE ARE PEOPLE WHO WANTED TO PROTECT THE RIVER. THERE WERE MEMBERS OF THE ENDIG NOWS COMMUNITY AS WELL THAT SPOKE TO THE IMPORTANCE OF THE RIVER. TO THEM, THERE WERE' PEOPLE WHO GO JUST TO TEXAS STATE FOR SCHOOL WHO SPOKE OF THE IMPORTANCE OF THE RIVER AND THE CULTURE OF SOYKOS TO THEM-- SAKEOS TO THEM -- SAN MARCOS TO THEM. . THEY SEEM TO HAVE ONLY BROUGHT HARM. I DO ASK THAT YOU CONSIDER ALL THE HARM THAT HAS BEEN DONE, ALL THE HARM THAT WILL BE AND AS EVERYONE ELSE HAS SAID THE IMPORTANCE OF THE CITY OF SAN MARCOS AND THE HAYS COUNTY RESIDENTS. THERE SHOULD BE MORE AVAILABILITY TO ACTUALLY SEE WHAT THE PEOPLE THINK FOR SURE. BUT I DO ASK THAT YOU PERSONALLY CONSIDER THAT THIS HAS NO STIPULATIONS AND WILL LIKELY HAVE NO BENEFITS EITHER, ONLY HARMS. THANK YOU. [APPLAUSE] I DO APPRECIATE THE SUPPORT. TEST A USEFUL TO PEOPLE SPEAKING, FOR WHATEVER THEY'RE SPEAKING ON BUT IF YOU CAN KEEP YOUR APPLAUSE DOWN. SORRY. NEXT WE HAVE MERLE MCAS KELL. ITY KEEP THE COURT RUNNING PLEASE START THE TIMER FOR EVERYONE THAT APPROACHES THE

PODIUM. >> MY NAME IS NOT MERLE MCRASCAL. MY NAME IS ED MCAS SELL.

MARY IS SITTING HERE. DOCTOR MCRASCAL ASKED THAT

I HAVE HER PORTION OF TIME >> JUDGE BECERRA: NO

PROBLEMS. >> SWELLS 3 MINUTES WON'T HANDLE IT. THANK YOU SO MUCH. THERE IS SOMETHING I WANT TO MENTION TO YOU AS I GET STARTED. AND THAT IS

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THAT RIGHT NOW, TODAY, THIS MINUTE, IN NORTHEAST TEXAS THE LARGEST GRASSLAND IN THE STATE OF TEXAS IS ABOUT TO BE DONE AWAY WITH. BY THIS TIME NEXT YEAR IT WILL NO LONGER EXIST BECAUSE INVESTORS HAVE PURCHASED THE LAND AND THEY'RE USING IT TO THEIR BETTER IMPROVEMENT.

GOING OVER THINGS THAT ALREADY BEEN MENTIONED AND ELEGANTLY I THINK. SO I THANK YOU FOR THE TIME THAT YOU'VE GIVEN ME. TO INTRODUCE MYSELF TO YOU, I AM ED WITHIN O'DELL MCRASCAL, RESERVATION CHOCK TAU INDIAN. BORN INTO THE THUNDERSTORM OF FAMILY WOLF CLAN, WESTERN BAND OF THE CHALK TAUS OF THE GREAT CHOCK TAU NATION, ALMOST ALL AMERICAN RESERVATION INDIANS ARE THOSE IDENTIFIED AS FAMILY, CLAN TRIBE AND NATION. I TELL YOU THIS SO THAT YOU'LL UNDERSTAND THAT AS AN AMERICAN INDIAN WE'VE SEEN THIS EXERCISE IN LAND DISCRETION SINCE THE LATE 1400'S. ONE WOULD THINK I WOULD BE USED TO IT BY NOW, WON'T YOU? IS ALWAYS CAME FROM THOSE THAT DID NOT LIVE ON THIS PARTICULAR LAND OR OFTEN IT WAS THE CASE THEY LIVED AT SOME GREAT DISTANCE FROM THE LAND.

THOSE THAT ALLOWED THOSE ATROCITIES TO HAPPEN EXPLAINED THEY WERE DOING IT FOR THE WELFARE OF THE PEOPLE. I OFTEN WONDER WHEN PEOPLE ARE WE SPEAKING OF.

SUCH IS THE CASE BEFORE US NOW. A VERY LARGE CORPORATION BY THE NAME OF BUCKINGTON HOMES KNOWN HERE AS LA CIMA WISHES TO TAKE CONTROL OF ALMOST 700 ACRES OF THE NOW FREEMAN RANCH HERE IN HAYS COUNTY. I FEEL IT NOTEWORTHY FOR THOSE OF US CONCERNED WITH THE PROJECT THAT THE PRESIDENT OF BUFFINGTON HOMES IS DAN BUFFINGTON OF JOHN'S ISLAND, SOUTH CAROLINA. JOHN'S ISLAND, SOUTH CAROLINA IS 1,622 MILES FROM SAN MARCOS, THAT'S A GREAT DISTANCE EVEN IN TEXAS STANDARDS.

I FIND THE IRONY THAT THE LAND IS IN TRUST TO FROST BANK OF SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS. TRUST, INDEED.

EVEN OUR COUNTY COMMISSIONERS DO NOT LIVE AT FREEMAN RANCH OR IN COUNTRY DISEASE.

THE NEAREST ONE TO COUNTRY ESTATES AND FREEMAN RANCH 7 MILES AWAY. WHILE THE REMAINING MEMBERS LIVE IN OTHER TOWNS. AS I READ THE PUMP FOR THE LAND IMPROVEMENT IS TO CONDUCT PARKS AND OPEN SPACES. COMMISSIONERS I WOULD REMIND YOU THAT 700 ACRES IS NOW OPEN SPACE. THEY'RE GOING TO IMPROVE ON THAT? ALSO THE CONSTRUCTION OF PAVILIONS WHO WOULD BELIEVE PAINFULLIONS WOULD NOT INVOLVE COVERING OPEN SPACES OFTEN WITH CONCRETE. NENN THERE IS A HIGHLY NEBULOUS STATEMENT REFERRING TO COMMUNITY FACILITIES. I THINK EVERYONE KNOWS THIS STATEMENT CAN BE CONSTRUED AS A MALTER OF PUTTING IN

WHATEVER THEY WISH. >> JUDGE BECERRA: YOU KEEP

GOING, KEEP GOING. >> I THINK EVERYONE KNOWS THE STATEMENT CAN BE CONSTRUED IN A MANNER TO SUIT THE INVESTORS' OVER ALL PLAN, A PLAN THAT WOULD SURFACE AT SOME LATER DATE. WHAT DO THEY THINK THAT WE DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT PARKS WOULD KITT OF? WOULD THERE BE A GOLF COURSE? OR COURSE THAT IS WOULD REMAIN GREEN EVEN IN TIMES SUCH AS THESE? DID THE INVESTORS EXPLAIN THAT AN OLYMPIC SIZED SWIMMING POOLS TAKES OVER 660,000 GALLONS OF WATER. THERE IS ALWAYS IN SCARCE SUPPLY IN THE HILL COUNTRY. THE AVERAGE SIZE OF A COMMUNITY POOL IS 13,500 GALLONS OF WATER TO FILL THE THING AND THEN MORE TO KEEP IT GOING DUE TO EVAPORATION.

THEN THERE A IS THE STATEMENT OF WALKWAYS. AND OTHER THINGS. ARE THE COMMISSIONERS NOT CONCERNED ABOUT OTHER THINGS? ARE THE COMMISSIONERS NOT CONCERNED ABOUT THE TRAFFIC PROBLEM THAT ALREADY EXISTS, THAT HAS ALREADY BEEN SPOKEN OF ON RANCH ROAD 12? WHAT I ASK IS OUR GREAT NEED FOR SUCH A PARK. AS WE MEET HER TODAY RIGHT NOW IN SAN MARCOS, -- SAN MARCOS WE'VE OVER 2,000 ACRES OF PARK LAND, THAT SURPRISED ME WHEN I FOUND THAT OUT.

LESS THAN A TWO MINUTE DRIVE FROM FREEMAN RANCH, LESS THAN TWO MINUTES FROM FREEMAN RANCH AND THE

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ENTRANCE OF LA CIMA THERE'S THE PURGATORY CREEK PARK, AN 838 CREATION GIVEN TO THE CITY OF SAN MARCOS. WHERE IS THE ENTRANCE TO THIS PLAN TO ENHANCE INVESTMENT OF DAN BUFFINGTON? IS THERE ANYONE HERE THIS MORNING THAT HAS ANY DOUBT TO WHO WILL BENEFIT FROM THIS PROJECT? IN THE DRIVING BACK AND FORTH FROM WIMBERLY TO SAN MARCOS I'M SURE THAT AT LEAST ONE COMMISSIONER KNOWS THE TRAFFIC PROBLEMS THAT NOW EXIST AT THE ENTRANCE OF LA CIMA HOUSING AND ON TO RANCH ROAD 12. THOSE OF US THAT LIVE IN COUNTRY ESTATES AS I DO, AND ON MUSTANG LANE IN PARTICULAR SELDOM HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO EXPLAIN OUR FEELINGS AS TO WHAT TAKES PLACE NEAR OUR HOMES THERE ON THE FREEMAN RANCH. THAT WAS THE CASE OF THE WORLD'S, THIS IS THE CASE OF THE WORLD'S LARGEST CAD EVERY FARM. THE FORM COVERS 26 ACRES AND WOULD BE CLOSE TO THE PROPOSED P. I.D., THIS BODY FARM WAS IN OPERATIONAL BEFORE THOSE IN COUNTRY ESTATES BECAME AWARE OF THE FACILITY THAT IS OPERATED BY TEXAS STATE. IF THE DEVELOPERS OF THE PROPOSED 684.ENT 46 ACRES HAD BEEN RESPONSIBLE THE PUBLIC NOTICE WOULD HAVE BEEN AT THE ENTRANCE OF COUNTRY ESTATES BUT IT WASN'T AND THEY'RE NOT.

NOW WE'RE GIVEN AN OPPORTUNITY TO VOICE OUR OPINION THROUGH OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS AND AS YOUR SUPPORTERS, WE ASK THAT YOU TURN DOWN THIS REQUEST TO FURTHER THE INVESTMENT OF THOSE THAT DO NOT RESIDE IN THIS COUNTRY OR STATE AND DO NOT HAVE OUR BEST INTERESTS AS I MIGHT ADD CERTAINLY ARE NOT YOUR SUPPORTERS, THANK

YOU. >> JUDGE BECERRA: THANK YOU, AGAIN I APPRECIATE THE ENTHUSIASM FOR THE SPEAKERS BUT JUST KEEP YOUR APPLAUSE DOWN, PLEASE.

SO JOE SCHNEIDER, IS THIS AN AGENDA ITEM YOU WOULD

LIKE TO SPEAK ON? >> YES, PLEASE.

>> JUDGE BECERRA: THANK YOU, IT ONLY SAYS K. SO I WANTED TO MAKE SURE IT WAS THE RIGHT ONE.

>> MY NAME IS JOE SCHNEIDER. I LIVE AT 803 MUSTANG LANE HERE IN SAN MARCOS. AND MY PROPERTY SHARES A COMMON BOUNDARY WITH THE PROPERTY IN QUESTION JOE FREEMAN RANCH. IF THIS IS APPROVED I WOULD LIKE TO ASK FOR A DECENT BUFFER ZONE FOR THE PROPERTIES THAT JOIN THE JOE FREEMAN RANCH. THIS WOULD BE THE TRACTS OF LAND IN THE COUNTRY ESTATES ON MUSTANG LANE. THERE IS A ROAD BEHIND MY HOUSE ALSO THAT WAS BUILT IN ORDER TO CONSTRUCT THE FLOOD CONTROL STRUCTURE, AND I WOULD LIKE FOR THIS NOT TO BE USED AS AN ENTRANCE FOR PARKLAND OR FOR ANY OTHER REASON. AND THE ROAD WAS REALLY BUILT TO BUILD A DAM AND FOR FOLLOW-UP INSPECTIONS FOR THE DAM.

BUT IT HAS BEEN USED FOR HUNTING, FOR THE HUNTERS TO GO IN AND OUT AND TEXAS STATE TO GO IN AND OUT. BUT THAT'S BESIDES -- [INDISCERNIBLE] PLEASE ASK THE DEVELOPER TO USE LIGHTING THAT WILL NOT BLEED OVER INTO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD IN THE COUNTRY ESTATES. THANK YOU.

>> JUDGE BECERRA: THANK YOU, SIR. WE ALSO HAVE VIRGINIA

IS IT PARKER? THERE IT IS. >> YOU FOUND ME.

>> JUDGE BECERRA: FOUND YOU. OKAY. SO IF THERE IS ANYONE ELSE INTERESTED IN SPEAKING FOR OR AGAINST THIS AGENDA ITEM, THESE AGENDA ITEMS, K. 1, AND K. 3, PLEASE APPROACH THE PODIUM. JUST KNOW THAT -- COME ON UP. AS YOU ARE WALKING I'M GOING TO SPEAK. JUST KNOW MY INTENT WITH THE TIMER IS TO KEEP A CADENCE BUT IT'S BY NO MEANS DURING THIS PUBLIC COMMENTS PORTION IT'S BY NO MEANS A HARD CUTOFF. IT'S A GUIDE FOR ME AS THE CHAIR. PLEASE

APPROACH -- >> MAY I HAVE PERMANENTS TO SPEAK FROM -- PERMISSION TO SPEAK FROM HERE?

>> JUDGE BECERRA: THE ONLY PROBLEM YOU WON'T BE RECORDED EFFECTIVELY AS A COURT OF RECORD. MAYBE -- DEPUTY DO YOU MIND HELPING MAYBE? [INDISCERNIBLE]

>> JUDGE BECERRA: I'M SORRY ABOUT -- I'M SORRY ABOUT ASKING YOU TO COME TO THE PODIUM BUT THIS IS HOW WE'LL

DOCUMENT -- >> THANK YOU, SIR.

>> [INDISCERNIBLE] [LAUGHTER]

>> HIS FATHER AND I WERE COLLEAGUES AT SOUTHWEST TEXAS STATE FOR SOME 25 YEARS.

I WAS UP THERE 33 YEARS. >> JUDGE BECERRA: WONDERFUL.

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>> MY NAME IS DR. GLENN RIDDLE. I LIVED IN COUNTRY ESTATES LONGER THAN ANYBODY IN THIS ROOM. WE BUILT, CONSTRUCTED AND MOVED IN OUR HOUSE 50 YEARS AGO THIS MONTH. AND I HAVE PROBABLY OVER 1,000 FEET OF PROPERTY JOINING THE FREEMAN RANCH.

I WASN'T PREPARED TO SPEAK HERE TODAY BUT I WANTED TO BACK AND SECOND EVERYTHING THAT HAS BEEN SAID BY MR. MCRASCAL AND DAN LYONS AND THE OTHERS ABOUT THIS LA CIMA MOVING INTO THE FREEMAN RANCH.

>> JUDGE BECERRA: OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

HONESTLY I'M SORRY THAT I HAD YOU COME UP TO THE PODIUM. THAT'S THE ONLY WAY WE CAN

RECORD IT. >> THAT'S ALL RIGHT. I CAN

EMERGENCY IT SOMETIMES. >> JUDGE BECERRA: THANK YOU, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. IF THERE IS ANYONE ELSE I'LL ASK AGAIN BEFORE I CLOSE THE PUBLIC COMMENTS. IF YOU PLEASE APPROACH THE PODIUM AND ONCE I'M DONE WITH THE PUBLIC COMMENTS THOSE HERE, THEN I'LL HAND IT OVER TO DOCTOR CARDENAS FOR THE WRITTEN COMMENTS.

>> THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME, COMMISSIONERS. MY NAME IS JACK, I LIVE IN COUNTRY ESTATES JUST DOWN THE STREET FROM SEVERAL PEOPLE WHO HAVE SPOKEN.

MY PROPERTY BACKS UP TO THE DAM THAT WAS MENTIONED BEFORE. THE FLOOD CONTROL DAM AND THE RESERVOIR AREA IN FRONT OF IT, I WAS TOLD WHEN I MOVED IN BY THE OWNER OF THE HOUSE WHEN WE PURCHASED IT THAT WHEN THE, WHEN THE RESERVOIR WAS SCRAPED OUT AND DUG UP AT THE VERY END LAST THING THEY DID IS WENT TO THE BOTTOM OF THE RESEARCHWAY AND DINE KNIGHTED -- DYNAMITED THE BEDROCK TO FRACTURE IT IN ORDER THAT THE WATER IN THE RESERVOIR WOULD RECHARGE THE AQUIFER QUICKER THAN IT WOULD IF THERE WERE NO CRACKS IN IT. THEREFORE MY WELL WHICH IS ONLY SEVERAL HUNDRED FEET AWAY, EVERY TIME THERE IS A GOOD HARD RAIN, I GET SEDIMENT IN MY WELL.

AND IT'S NOT VERY PLEASANT. SOMETIMES I MEAN EVERYTHING THAT WASHES IN FROM SEVERAL THOUSAND ACRES AROUND GETS WASHED INTO THERE. IT'S -- I DON'T THINK IT'S GOOD FOR THE AQUIFER IF WE NOW HAVE THAT MUCH EXTRA LAND AND ACTIVITY THAT'S GOING TO WASH INTO THAT RESERVOIR ALSO. AND INTO THE AQUIFER.

IT DOES NOT GET FILTERED. THAT WELL. IT STITCHES UP THE AQUIFER AND IT'S NOT A GOOD THING.

I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME. THANK YOU.

>> JUDGE BECERRA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

AND BEFORE I CLOSE IT, THERE'S -- OH, WE HAVE ANOTHER ONE. COME ON UP. FEEL FREE.

THIS IS WHY YOU ARE HERE. THIS IS YOUR TIME. THIS IS YOUR SPACE. YOU PROBABLY HAVE TAKEN TIME OUT OF WORK% OR SCHOOL OR SOME OTHER TASK.

SO FEEL FREE. >> THANK YOU Y'ALL FOR THE TIME. I'M ROCCO MOSES. I'M HERE AS A VOICE AGAIN FOR SPEAKING AGAINST THE PROJECT. YOU KNOW WE HAVE TO LOOK AT IT OBJECTIVELY AS THE RESOURCE THAT WE HAVE AND THE RIVER. THESE PROJECTS ARE EXTENSIONS OF THINGS THAT BENEFIT ULTIMATELY OTHER PEOPLE.

YOU KNOW. THE RESOURCE THAT WE HAVE DOESN'T MAKE THE AREA BUT IT'S ONE OF THE PRIMARY ASSETS THAT WE HAVE.

YOU KNOW. AND THESE DEVELOPMENTS ARE, YOU KNOW WE CAN'T STOP THE PROGRESSION OF DEVELOPERS COMING, BUT WE CAN STOP THE DEVELOPMENT IN THE AREAS THAT ABSOLUTELY IMPACT A RESOURCE THAT WE SHOULD BE PROTECTING TEMPERATURE YOU KNOW, THE -- YOU KNOW, THE, IT'S LOOM THE ALMOST THE SACRED NATURE OF THIS RIVER.

THERE HAS BEEN PEOPLE HERE FOR 10,000 YEARS. YOU KNOW.

AS STEWARDS OF AN AREA, THIS IS IT. THESE ARE THE, THESE ARE THE TICK MARKS THAT KNOCK AWAY AT OUR RESOURCES AND THESE DEVELOPMENTS ARE SPECIFICALLY -- SO IT'S NOT SAYING THAT THE DEVELOPMENT ISN'T GOING TO COME AND THESE DEVELOPERS ARE GOING TO STOP BUT IT'S SAYING THAT WE HAVE TO DO THIS IN A MANNER WHERE WE PROTECT OUR RESOURCES AND BUILDING OVER RECHARGE SPACES IS NOT DOING THAT, JUST HERE AS ANOTHER VOICE IN THAT DIRECTION.

THANK YOU. >> JUDGE BECERRA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THEN AFTER THAT, MR. MIER,

YOU CAN GO NEXT. >> HIGH NAME IS SANDRA, I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR HAVING THE PUBLIC HEARING

AND OPENING THE AGENDA ITEM. >> REPEAT YOUR NAME.

>> SANDRA SITKUSU. I'M SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF THE PROTECT THE RIVER GROUP. SO Y'ALL HEARD EARLIER THIS MORNING ABOUT THE CURRENT FLOW INSIDE OF THE SPRINGS RIGHT NOW. IT WAS 90 CUBIC FEET PER SECOND AND HISTORICALLY FROM THE EDWARDS AQUIFER ALLIANCE'S DATA THE AVERAGE SPRING FLOW OF THE SPRINGS IS ABOUT 17 71 CUBIC TREAT PER SECOND. THERE IS A MASSIVE DECREASE

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IN HOW MUCH FLOW WE CAN SEE. WE ALSO KNOW THAT AFTER PERIODS OF EXTREME DROUGHT LIKE NOW IT'S MORE DIFFICULT FOR WATER TO MAKE ITS WAY INTO THE AQUIFER. MEANING EVEN AFTER ALL THE RAIN THAT WE HAD THE LAST COUPLE OF WEEKS IT'S GOING TO TAKE A MASSIVE AMOUNT OF WATER TO REFILL THE AQUIFER ITSELF. SO ALLOWING ANY FURTHER DEVELOPMENT OVER THE RECHARGE ZONE IS ONLY GOING TO DO IRREPAIRABLE HARM TO THE AQUIFER AND IF WE WAIT ANY LONGER WE'RE GOING TO SEE THE DAMAGE CONTINUE AND CONTINUE AND CONTINUE BEFORE WE HAVE A CHANCE TO STOP IT.

WITH THE INCREASE OF BUILDING WE SEE GROWTH AND MOVEMENT INTO THE CITY BUT THIS UNREGULATED GROWTH WITHOUT AN ENVIRONMENTALLY SUSTAINABLE PLAN IS NOT GOING TO ACTUALLY CREATE POSITIVE CULTURE FOR OUR CITY. WE'RE SEEING THIS HAPPEN BEFORE OUR VERY EYES WITH OUR HOUSING CRISIS IN SAN MARCOS, AUSTIN AND SAN ANTONIO. THIS AUSTIN THERE IS A MASSIVE AMOUNT OF GENTRIFICATION AND THEY'RE LOSING THEIR UNIQUE CULTURE. SARK OAKS CULTURE IS DIFFERENT. IF WE ALLOW THINGS TO HAPPEN WITHOUT ACTUALLY PUTTING THE TIME AND THE ENERGY AND THE SPACE INTO PRESERVING WHAT WE DO ALREADY HAVE AND PROTECTING THAT, WE ARE GOING TO LOSE THAT IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF YEARS AND BECOME ANOTHER JUST CITY TO PASS ALONG AND GO TO THE OUTLETS AND IF WE'RE LUCKY WE'LL EVEN HAVE A RIVER IF IT HASN'T DRIED UP BY THEN. I'M ALSO SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF THE INDIVIDUAL, AN INDIVIDUAL SPEAKING AS A REGISTERED VOTER OF HAYS COUNTY AND AS AN INDIGENOUS PERSON NOT NATIVE TO SAN MARCOS BUT I'VE BEEN LIVING HERE. THE STORY OF THE PEOPLE IS VERY SIMILAR TO THE CREATION ONE OF MY CREATION STORIES FROM THE ISLAND OF GUAM. OUR PEOPLE FROM GUAM AND THE PEOPLE INDIGENOUS TO THIS AREA HAVE THEIR CREATION COMING FROM THE SAN MARCOS SPRINGS COMING FROM THE WATER WHERE THEY CAME UP FROM THE GROUND AND THEY BECAME STEWARDS AND PROTECTORS OF THE LAND THROUGH THE SPRINGS, SO IT'S NOT ONLY A BEAUTIFUL ENVIRONMENTAL PIECE THAT WE HAVE THAT WE SHOULD PROTECT BUT IT'S ALSO EXTREMELY SACRED AND HAVING VERY SIMILAR CREATION STORY I WAS ABLE TO EXPERIENCE AND FEEL THE SACRED WATERS CONNECTING ME BACK TO THE PLACE WHERE MY PEOPLE COME FROM. AND I HAVE A LITTLE MAP. SO JAPAN IS RIGHT HERE AND GUAM IS DOWN HERE. WE'RE A TERRITORY OF THE UNITED STATES.

SHAM. OVER HERE. JUST FOR A LITTLE -- HAWAII IS OVER HERE, WE'RE A LITTLE CLOSER TO EAST ASIA. SO EITHER I REALLY WANT TO ALINE MYSELF WITH THE GOAL OF POSTPONING THE VOTE IF NOT VOTING AGAINST THIS ITEM. POSTPONING THE VOTE SO WE'RE ABLE TO SHARE AND HAVE THE PEOPLE MAKE AN INFORMED DECISION AND SHARE THEIR COMMENTS AND THE THINGS THEY LEARNED WITH THE COMMISSIONERS SORT S THEY'RE -- COURT SO THEY'RE ABLE TO TAKE A PART IN THIS.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND HOPE THAT YOU --

[INDISCERNIBLE] >> JUDGE BECERRA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. IF YOU PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND FOR THE

PUBLIC. >> RALPH MIER, LIVE AT 1915 MUSTANG LANE. I WAS HERE WHEN THEY STARTED WITH THE DAM. AND I JUST WANTED TO COMMENT ON WHAT MR. RIDDLE READ WHEN THEY BLOWING UP THE DAM, TO PENETRATE, IT MADE OUR WATER DIRTY ALSO.

IT SUCKS IT RIGHT IN THERE. IN FACT, WITH THESE 100 YEAR FLOODS THAT COME EVERY 2 OR 3 YEARS, IF YOU DROVE DOWN COUNTRY ESTATES, BEHIND MR. SCHNEIDER'S HOUSE AND RIDDLE'S HOUSE YOU COULD SEE THE DAM WITH WATER IN IT.

AND WITHIN 2 WEEKS THERE WAS NO WATER. IT WAS BONE DRY.

SO THAT IS PART OF THE PROBLEM. THEN WE, THERE IS MORE PEOPLE HERE FROM COUNTRY ESTATES THAN WHEN WE HAD OUR BARBECUE SO IF THEY WOULD PLEASE STAND AND LET YOU KNOW WHO IS HERE. SO YOU RECOGNIZE THAT THIS IS A

WHERE IT'S EFFECTING US. >> JUDGE BECERRA: RIGHT ON, WE SEE YOU, THANK YOU FOR STANDING UP AND BEING COUNTED. THANK YOU, RALPH FOR COMING UP TO SPEAK.

>> THANK YOU. >> JUDGE BECERRA: REALLY APPRECIATE IT. I'VE KNOWN YOU AND YOUR WIFE FOR MANY YEARS, WE SERVED ON BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS TOGETHER AND I VALUE YOUR PERSPECTIVES AND EVERYONE ELSE THAT IS

HERE, YES, MA'AM. >> MY NAME IS VALERIE MORRISON, I WILL HAVE AT 1513 MUSTANG LANE.

I NOTICED IN THE RESOLUTION FOR THIS MEETING

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FOR THE PROPOSED LA CIMA NORTH DISTRICT IT SAID THAT AFTER PUBLISHING THE NOTICE IN THE RECORD AND THAT IS ACTUALLY WHICH ARE LEARNED OF THIS BUT AS I UNDERSTAND IT THIS IS A SECOND HEARING. I DIDN'T EVER SEE ANYTHING IF THERE WAS A FIRST HEARING. IT ALSO SAYS AND MAILING NOTICE OF THE PUBLIC HEARING. I KNOW WITH THE CITY THEY'RE REQUIRED TO SEND OUT A NOTICE TO ALL HOME OWNERS WITHIN A CERTAIN RADIUS OF THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT. AND I WAS WONDERING IF THE COUNTY HAS REQUIRED TO DO THAT BECAUSE I DIDN'T RECEIVE ANYTHING.

AND ALSO, I ECHO WHAT THE TWO GENTLEMEN HAVE SAID ABOUT THE WELLS WHEN THE DAM WAS BUILT. RIGHT ABOUT THE SAME WE MOVED TO COUNTRY ESTATES. I KNOW A LOT OF PEOPLE SUFFERED INCONVENIENCES WITH THEIR WELLS. SO I WOULD HOPE IF Y'ALL DO APPROVE THIS THAT YOU WOULD PREVENT ANY BLASTING. IT IS LOT OF ROCK. I DON'T KNOW HOW THEY'RE GOING TO GET THROUGH IT BUT THE BLASTING REALLY DOES CAUSE PROBLEMS WITH THE WELL. ALSO AS FAR AS LA CIMA, I HAVE A BROTHER WHO LIVES IN THE SETTLEMENT. IN THE BACK OF HITS PROPERTY HE IS AT THE VERY END OF IT, HE HAS BEEN HEARING CONSTANT NOISE, DRILLING, BULLDOZERS, ALL KIND OF NOISE FROM THEIR DEVELOPMENT AND A LOT-- THERE HAS BEEN I THINK 6 OR 7 AMENDMENTS TO THAT ORIGINAL AGREEMENT. AND I JUST DON'T TRUST WHAT LA CIMA SAYS. THEY KEEP ADDING MORE AND MORE DENSITY. THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO BUILD LARGER ESTATE HOMES IN THE BACK AND I'VE HEARD THAT HAS BEEN CHANGED BECAUSE THEY WANT MORE DENSITY. AND I KNOW THE CITY IS LOOKING FOR MORE HOMES. SO THIS IS JUST BEEN APPROVED OVER AND OVER AGAIN. ALSO I NO LA CIMA WHERE THEY CURRENTLY ARE IS REQUIRED TO HAVE SO MUCH PARK LAND SET ASIDE. I'M WONDERING IF PART OF THIS ISSUE WITH SETTING UP THE NEW P. I.D. THEY'RE GOING TO TRY TO SUBSTITUTE THIS AS PARKLAND FOR WHAT IS REQUIRED WHERE THEY CURRENTLY ARE AND THEREFORE THEY CAN ADD EVEN MORE DENSITY TO THE OTHER SIDE OF RANCH ROAD 12 WHICH BACKS UP TO THE SETTLEMENT IN 9 BAPTIST ACADEMY BY SAYING THIS IS THEIR PARKLAND ON THIS NORTH P. I.D. THANK

YOU. >> JUDGE BECERRA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I THINK SOMEONE ELSE RAISED THEIR HAND. ALL YEARS, STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE VIEWING PUBLIC.

>> HELLO, THERE, MY NAME IS BENNY RICE, I DO TO THE LIVE IN COUNTRY ESTATES BUT I LIVE IN SAN MARCOS AND I DO HAVE A PAGE TO STORY. I THINK EVERYONE -- THIS IS A LOT OF PEOPLE FOR A CITY MEETING.

I FOUND OUT ABOUT THIS ABOUT 10:00 LAST NIGHT. IT IS HARD TO GET PEOPLE TO HERE KNOWS THAT. IF YOUONE- HAVE THIS MANY PEOPLE HERE, ON A TUESDAY MORNING, AT 9:00 IN THE MORNING, THIS IS SOMETHING PEOPLE CARE ABOUT.

THIS IS SOMETHING I JUST FOUND OUT ABOUT. I THINK THE MAJORITY OF THE OPINIONS OF PEOPLE THAT SHARED IS THEY WANT MORE TIME TO TALK ABOUT IT IF NOTHING ELSE.

NOT DEMANDING A NO VOTE NOW. WE'RE ASKING GIVE US TIME.

GIVE US MORE NOTICE. A LOT OF PEOPLE HERE SEEM TO HAVE JUST FOUND OUT ABOUT THIS MEETING AND DID KNOW ABOUT THE PRIOR ONE. I THINK IT IS NOT UNREASONABLE. I THINK IT'S EASY THING TO ASK FOR. IT DOES NOT TAKE A LOT. SHELFING IT PUSHING IT FORWARD TWO WEEKS, I THINK IT'S VERY REASONABLE.

NOT A LOT TO ASK FOR. I DON'T LIVE IN COUNTRY ESTATES BUT THIS DEVELOPMENT AFFECTS ALL OF SAN MARCOS.

I'VE BEEN HERE MY WHOLE LIFE. NOT THAT I SHOULD HAVE TO SAY THAT BECAUSE THE AMOUNT OF TIME YOU LIVED HERE SHOULDN'T MATTER. WHEN YOUR FEELINGS ABOUT THIS.

THAT'S ABOUT ALL I HAVE TO SAY.

>> JUDGE BECERRA: THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

JOHN OGDEN. I DO LIVE IN COUNTRY ESTATES. THE BIGGEST ISSUE THAT I HAVE WITH THIS GOING FORWARD IS THE LACK OF DETAILINGS ABOUT HOW THIS TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT WILL PROCEED AND ESPECIALLY WITH ITEMS LIKE TRAFFIC, RANCH ROAD 12 INTERSECTION WITH WONDER WORLD DRIVE IS BAD NOW WITH THIS. IN ADDITION TO THE CONSTRUCTION THAT'S GOING ON THERE CURRENTLY. YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW THE DEVELOPER'S PLANS BUT THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE PUTTING IN PAVILIONS AND POOLS AND RECREATIONAL FACILITIES WITHOUT A WHOLE BUNCH OF HOUSES TO SUPPORT

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THAT TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT. THEY DON'T PUT THAT IN SO PEOPLE CAN DRIVE FROM THE OTHER SIDE OF THE HIGHWAY TO GO VISIT THE POOL. SO AT THE BARE MINIMUM THEY NEED TO PROVIDE QUITE A BIT MORE INFORMATION ABOUT THE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT, HOW IT'S GOING TO AFFECT TRAFFIC PATTERNS, AS WELL AS THINGS LIKE LIGHTING, ONE OF THE THINGS WE ENJOY ABOUT THE COUNTRY ESTATES NEIGHBORHOOD IS AT NIGHT IT'S DARK. IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE. THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY. THANK YOU.

>> JUDGE BECERRA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

WHILE YOU APOACH THE PODIUM, COMMISSIONER SHELL, I KNOW THIS IS YOUR ITEM. HAVE WE HAD THE MAILING OF

INFORMATION? >> JORDAN CAN ANSWER ALL THE

-- >> JUDGE BECERRA: OKAY.

>> MY NAME IS CREDIT TEENA RODRIGUEZ, BEAR WITH ME, I ONLY HAD A COUPLE OF HOURS OF SLEEP.

I DID ALSO FIND OUT ABOUT THIS LAST NIGHT AND HALF WAY DOWN HERE WAS WONDERING IS IT EVEN WORTH IT? WILL I HAVE A CHANCE TO SPEAK? SO THANK YOU FOR HEARING ME THIS MORNING. I AM AGAINST THIS DEVELOPMENT. FIRST, I WANT TO SAY I'M 9TH GENERATION TEXAN.

I LIVED IN CENTRAL TEXAS MY WHOLE LIFE, 40 YEARS. I'M A RESIDENT OF AUSTIN TEXAS, ALUMNUS OF TEXAS STATE, SAN MARCOS, I SPEAK ON BEHALF OF THE LAND AND THE WATER. AND THE PEOPLE WHO, WHOSE FACES AND NAMES WON'T BE KNOWN BY THE PEOPLE WHO ARE BENEFITTING FROM THESE PROJECTS. SOMETHING THAT HAS WHERELINE DECIDED ON ISED FIRM STUDIO. I LOVE FILM, I LOVE TELLING STORIES. BUT HAVING DECIDED ON THIS MASSIVE DEVELOPMENT AND THEN INCREASING THE MASSIVE DEVELOPMENT IS ESCAPE FROM REALITY WHICH IS THAT THE LAND, THE WATER IS SUFFERING FROM WHAT WE'RE DOING. AND NOT TAKING INTO ACCOUNT THE MILLIONS OF PEOPLE THAT ARE AFFECTED.

ALREADY AND WILL CONTINUE TO BE AFFECTED BY THESE DEVELOPMENTS, ESPECIALLY OVER THIS RESOURCE THAT WE NEED TO PROTECT. BECAUSE WHAT IS MOST IMPORTANT? HOW ARE WE ALIVE RIGHT NOW? WATER. AIR. WHEN WE CONTINUE TO COMPROMISE THESE THINGS THAT KEEP US ALIVE, WHAT IS THE POINT? WHAT IS THE POINT? WHO BENEFITS FROM THIS? EVERYONE OUT HERE IS SAYING, YES, GIVE US MORE TIME. I JUST FOUND OUT ABOUT THIS LAST NIGHT. MOST PEOPLE DON'T KNOW THIS IS EVEN GOING ON UNTIL IT'S ALREADY HAPPENED. UNTIL THE DAMAGE IS ALREADY DONE. WHEN PEOPLE ARE ALREADY -- THE FACT THAT THE AQUIFER IS ALREADY DEPLETED AND THE WATER TABLES ARE NOT -- THIS IS NOT SUSTAINABLE.

WE HAVE TO THINK ABOUT SUSTAINABILITY AND THE FUTURE BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE BENEFITTING FROM ALL OF THIS RIGHT NOW. WHAT ABOUT CHILDREN? WHAT ABOUT THE FUTURE OF GENERATIONS TO COME? WE'RE NOT THINKING ABOUT THAT AT ALL. WE HAVE TO START THINKING ABOUT THAT SO PLEASE DO WHAT WE CAN TO PROTECT THESE PRECIOUS RESOURCES, PROTECT THE LAND, PROTECT THE PEOPLE, HELP HEAR THEM, HEAR US. PROTECT THE FUTURE.

>> MY NAME IS MICHAEL HESTER, MY WIFE AND OWN THE PROPERTY AT 2002 MUSTANG LANE, COUNTRY ESTATES.

I DIDN'T COME PREPARED TO SPEAK.

I JUST FOUND OUT WHEN THIS LAST NIGHT LIKE A CONCERNED NEIGHBOR. LIKE MANY PEOPLE I WAS SURPRISED THAT I DIDN'T RECEIVE ANY NOTIFICATION IN THE MAIL.

I'VE GOTTEN USED TO US BEING LARGELY OVERLOOKED BY THE COUNTY UNTIL IT'S TAX TIME. THAT IS PART OF THE REASON WHY WE WANTED TO BE OUT THERE. WE DIDN'T WANT TO BE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE TOWN, WE DIDN'T WANT TO BE IN THE MIDDLE OF A SUBDIVISION.

THE BEAUTY OF THIS PLACE, WE'RE A RELATIVE NEWCOMERS, WE'VE ONLY BEEN THERE 5 YEARS, A LOT OF THE PEOPLE HAVE BEEN THERE AS LONG AS THE DEVELOPMENT HAS BEEN THERE. IN THE TIME THAT I'VE BEEN SITTING HERE THE ONE THING I HAVE LEARNED IS THAT I DON'T SEE AN UPSIDE TO ANYBODY THAT CURRENTLY LIVES ANYWHERE AROUND THAT

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AREA. WE'RE THE ONLY PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN THE AREA.

THE ONLY PEOPLE I SEE BENEFITING FROM THIS ARE THE DEVELOPERS ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE HIGHWAY AND I THINK THE LADY POINTED OUT A VERY GOOD POINT. THIS LOOKS A WAY TO GET AROUND THE OPEN AREA REQUIREMENT FOR THEIR ORIGINAL AGREEMENT THAT YOU LET THEM BUILD THE MONSTROSITY OVER THERE HAVE IN THE BEGINNING, WE'VE HAD SO MANY PARKS, IT'S GOING TO ENCROACH ON WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO. STUFF THEM ON THIS LAND AND THEN WE WON'T HAVE TO TAKE UP THE VALUABLE LAND. SEEMS LIKE A BUSINESS DECISION, SEEMS LIKE THIS WHOLE THING IS A BUSINESS DECISION. WHAT I CAN TELL YOU BECAUSE I LIVE ACROSS THE ROAD FROM RALPH, I'M HAVING THE SAME PROBLEM SOME OF THE REST OF Y'ALL ARE HAVING SINGES THEY PUT THE CREVICE INTO THE BED ROCK THERE AND THERE IS A LOT OF ROCK WHERE WE LIVE. EVERY TIME YOU HAVE A BIG RAIN, AND I COULD SURE USE SOME NOW WE GET SEDIMEN IN OUR WELLS, IT'S A PRETTY DEEP WELL. WE'RE DEPENDENT ON THE WELLS. WE'RE AFFECTED BY THIS.

EVERYBODY IN THIS ROOM IS GOING TO BE NEGATIVELY IMPACTED. THERE IS GOING TO BE AN IMPACT TO THE TRAFFIC FLOW. WE ALREADY HAVE PROBLEMS WITH THE INTERSECTION BEEN MENTIONED EVERY TIMES AND I BELIEVE PEOPLE HAVE ALREADY DIED THERE IF I'M NOT MISTAPE.

SO AGAIN, -- MISTAKEN, I AM SORRY I'M NOT VERY ELOQUENT.

I DIDN'T COME TO MAKE ANY REMARKS BY HAVING JUST FOUND OUT ABOUT IT LAST NIGHT I THOUGHT I WANTED TO ADD MY VOICE TO ALL THE PEEK WHO HAVE SPEEN HERE.

>> JUDGE BECERRA: THANK YOU SO MUCH. JORDAN. CAN YOU ANSWER THE QUESTION THAT'S HAS BEEN BROUGHT UP OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN. WITH YOUR NAME AND TITLE ABOUT

NOTICE. >> SURE, ABSOLUTELY, JORDAN POWELL. ASSISTANT UNCOUNSEL SO UNDER THE BID ACT WE'RE REQUIRED TO GIVE, TO MAIL NOTICE TO ALL PROPERTY OWNERS THAT ARE OWN PROPERTY IN THE PROPOSED, WITHIN THE PROPOSED BOUNDARIES OF EACH PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT THAT IS BEING REQUESTED SO THAT MAIL NOTICE WENT OUT ON AUGUST 11 WHICH WAS A THURSDAY I BELIEVE.

THE REQUIRED NEWSPAPER NOTICE THAT WAS PUBLISHED IN THE SAY,OS DAILY RECORD WAS PUBLISHED ON FRIDAY, AUGUST

12. >> JUDGE BECERRA: PUBLISHED AUGUST 12. NOT YET. NOT YET.

SORRY. >> THAT'S OKAY.

>> JUDGE BECERRA: THE FEEL IS, THIS IS NOT ON YOU SPECIFICALLY. THESE ARE GENERAL STATEMENTS THAT FOLKS DON'T KNOW WHAT WE DO ON A DAILY BASIS, I TELL THE DEPARTMENT HEADS THIS.

I SHARED THIS PERSPECTIVE WITH MR. PACHECO IT'S THE CONSISTENT SINCE THE BEST THING CAN I DO IS OFFER MY PERSPECTIVE AS ONE OF THE COURT MEMBERS THAT WE SHOULD BE CONSISTENT WITH OUR HANDLES BEINGS AND NOTICINGS, I ASKED MR. PACHECO TO MAKE SURE PEOPLE GET PLENTY OF NOTICE. THESE PEOPLES FEEL BECAUSE YOU COULD DOESN'T MEAN YOU SHOULD COMMUNICATION PERSPECTIVES THEY FEEL VERY OMITTED FROM THE COMMUNICATION WINDOW. I'M WONDERING HOW DO WE ADDRESS SUCH A THING? IT SOUNDS LIKE WE WERE CLEARLY DOWN TO THE WIRE ON THIS, DID YOU WANT TO ADD ON THIS?

>> YES, I'M GOING TO START FROM THE BEGINNING IF THAT

IS OKAY. >> JUDGE BECERRA: SURE.

>> I'LL COME BACK UP. >> YEAH. MOST PEOPLE ARE FAMILIAR WITH LA CIMA WHICH IS NOW BEING CALLED LA CIMA SOUTH. I KNOW PLENTY OF PEOPLE THAT LIVE THERE. WE CAN ALL DEBATE DEVELOPMENT, GROWTH, ETC. I GREW UP IN A RURAL AREA AND I THINK I HAVE A DECENT RECORD OF CONSERVATION IN CENTRAL TEXAS AND SO I THINK MOST PEOPLE KNOW IT'S IMPORTANT TO ME. AT THE SAME TIME THERE IS A BALANCE WITH GROWTH AND WE'RE AS EVERYBODY KNOWS THE FASTEST GROWING COUNTY IN THE COUNTRY FOR THE LAST TEN YEARS. AND I DON'T EXPECT THAT TO SLOW DOWN SO THE IDEA IS HOW DO YOU GET SOME TYPE OF GROWTH AND ALSO BALANCE CONSERVATION AND OPEN SPACE, THE ENVIRONMENT, THINGS LIKE THAT? IT'S ONE OF THE REASONS BEFORE MY TIME THAT THE LA CIMA WHICH IS SOUTH BID WAS CREATED WAS TO TRY CREATE SOME BALANCE WITH CONSERVATION AND DENSE DEVELOPMENT. WE HAVE A 700 PLUS ACRE PRESERVE THAT IS SEPARATE FROM PURGATORY CREEK PRESERVE. WE'RE CURRENTLY WORKING ON ALMOST 1,000 ACRES PRESERVE WHICH IS PART OF THE LA CIMA DEVELOPMENT.

JUST TO POINT OUT WE HAVE UNDERSTOOD SINCE BEFORE MY TIME THERE HAS TO BE A BALANCE WITH DEVELOPMENT.

AND CONSERVATION. COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND EVERYONE'S POINTS OF VIEW HERE. WOULD NOT ARGUE WITH

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THEM. IT'S THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD. THIS IS ADJACENT TO THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD, IT'S A VERY IMPORTANT CONCERN FOR ANYBODY THAT OWNS PROPERTY WHAT HAPPENS ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE FENCE.

I LIVE PROBABLY ABOUT -- I'M GOING TO GUESS LESS THAN A MILE AS THE CROW FLY FROM THIS. I'M PROBABLY ABOUT 1,000 FEET, MAYBE 2,000 FEET FROM THE LA CIMA SOUTH PROPERTY LINE. I'M PROBABLY ABOUT 1,000 FEET FROM THE KISSING FREE PROPERTY LINE. SO I DO UNDERSTAND THEY ARE NOT ADJACENT TO ME I DO UNDERSTAND THE IMPACTS ESPECIALLY WITH CONSTRUCTION THAT OCCUR WITH DEVELOPMENT.

I DO WAKE UP TO -- I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY ARE, JACK HAMMERING ROCK I ASSUME PUTTING IN WATER LINES, THINGS LIKE THAT SO I DO UNDERSTAND AND I DO HAVE AN EDWARDS WELL 200 FOOT EDOUARD AQUIFER WELL ON MY PROPERTY. I ALSO IN HEAVY RAIN HAVE SEDIMENT. THAT IS SOMETHING I'VE EXPERIENCED SINCE I LIVED IN MY HOUSE FOR OVER 15 YEARS NOW. I DO UNDERSTAND THOSE CONCERNS AND I'VE KNOWN A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN THIS AREA MY WHOLE LIFE AS DR. RIDDLE MENTIONED.

THE LA CIMA SOUTH BID -- ALONG WITH THAT CAME A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT. IT'S A CITY WITHIN THE DEVELOPMENT SO THE CITY ANNEXES THE DEVELOPMENT AS IT OCCURS. THAT IS WHAT HAPPENED. I THINK SOMEONE MENTIONED THAT AMENDMENT, THAT AGREEMENT HAS BEEN AMENDED I THINK IT'S 7 TIMES NOW. THE LAST TIME IT WAS AMENDED WAS TO INCLUDE LA CIMA NORTH WHICH WAS BACK IN MAY SO THE CITY AND THE COUNTY APPROVED THE ACTUAL DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT FOR THIS PROJECT BACK IN MAY.

THAT DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT SHOWS THE CITY'S ENFORCEMENT OF THEIR RULES WHEN IT COMES TO DENSITY AND STORMWATER MANAGEMENT, YOU KNOW, PARKLAND. S THINGS LIKE THAT. ALL OF THE CITY'S RULES ARE REFERENCED IN THAT DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT. BEING AROUND FROM THE 2012 AGREEMENT AND CREATION OF THE PID THERE WAS OBVIOUSLY A LOT OF BACK AND FORTH. A LOT OF DEBATE.

A LOT OF COMMUNICATION ON DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. I THINK MOST PEOPLE AT LEAST MANY OF THE PEOPLE THAT I KNOW THAT HAVE BEEN IN SAN MARCOS FOR A WHILE DO CONSIDER THE LA CIMA DEVELOPMENT TO BE QUALITY DEVELOPMENT. EVERYBODY CAN DISAGREE ON WHETHER IT SHOULD BE THERE OR NOT OR WHETHER PEOPLE LIKE DEVELOPMENTS ESPECIALLY WHEN IT'S ADJACENT TO THEIR PROPERTY BUT OVERALL I BELIEVE IT TURNED OUT TO BE A VERY QUALITY SUBDIVISION, WE'VE COUNTY EMPLOYEINGS THAT LIVE IN THE SUBDIVISION AND I BELIEVE IT HAS TURNED OUT TO BE A VERY NICE SUBDIVISION THAT INCLUDES OVER 50% OF CONSERVED LAND WHICH IS VERY RARE FOR A LOT OF DEVELOPMENT. IT IS OVER THE EDWARD AQUIFER RECHARGE ZONE. THAT HAS BEEN OBVIOUSLY BEEN A CONCERN AND THE CITY ADDRESSES THAT IN A LOT OF ITS RULES ASSOCIATED WITH DEVELOPMENT. SO THAT IS SOMETHING THAT IS DEFINITELY OF AN ISSUE. I WILL ASK THE DEVELOPER DOES HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE TO COME FORWARD AND MAYBE EXPLAIN A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THIS DEVELOPMENT. ITS PROPOSED LAYOUT AND THINGS LIKE THAT, TOO, SO THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING AS SOON AS I'M DONE SO WE CAN GET THAT OUT IN THE OPEN. BUT IT IS, IN FACT, ALL I DO, I THINK I DO HAVE THE ROUND ABOUT ACREAGE FIGURES TO PUT IT IN PERSPECTIVE. LOOKING AT WHAT LA CIMA, WHAT WE'D CALL LA CIMA SOUTH. LIKE I MENTIONED THE COUNTY WHEN THAT PID WAS CREATED THE COUNTY RECEIVED ABOUT A 700 ACRE PRESERVE AND THAT PRESERVE HAS HABITAT CREDITS THAT ARE USED SO WHEN THIS DEVELOPER AND OTHER DEVELOPERS IN THE COUNTY WISH TO MITIGATE THEY HAVE A MET GAUGES OPPORTUNITY -- MITIGATION OPPORTUNITY IN THE COUNTY. THE REASON THAT IS IMPORTANT IS BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE TO DO THAT IN THE COUNTY.

TO DEVELOP IF IT'S DEEMED TO BE WARBLER HABITAT AND THEY WANT TO OFFSET THEIR DEVELOPMENT THEY CAN WORK WITH U.S. FISH AND WILD LIFE AND THEY CAN MITIGATE ANY WHERE SO THE COUNTY BEFORE MY TIME CREATED ITS HABITAT CONSERVATION PLAN SO AT LEAST WE WOULD HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE CONSERVATION IN THE COUNTY FOR DEVELOPMENT THAT OCCURRED HERE AND OFFSET OTHERWISE MOST OF THAT CONSERVATION WOULD OCCUR OUTSIDE OF THE COUNTY SO THAT WAS THE FIRST OF THE COUNTY'S HABITAT CONSERVATION PLAN PRESERVE.

THE OVERALL LA CIMA DEVELOPMENT IS JUST UNDER

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4,000 ACRES I BELIEVE WITH THIS EXPANSION. THE CONSEARCHED LAND -- CONSERVED LAND ONCE THE COUNTY CLOSES OUR LACEST ACQUISITION WILL BE OVER 2,000 ACHE SOARS OVER 50 OF WHAT IS WITHIN THE BOUNDARY OF THE PID WILL BE OPEN SPACE, CONSERVATION POTENTIALLY WARBLER HABITAT. POTENTIALLY OTHER CREDITS.

PUBLIC ACCESS THROUGH TRAILS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. SO A ILWILL BIT MORE THAN HALF WHICH I THINK IS FAIRLY SIGNIFICANT AND I DON'T -- THAT DOES NOT INCLUDE ADJACENT PURGATORY CREEK PRESERVE PROPERTIES. WHEN YOU LOOK ON A MAP AS THE CITY OF SAN MARCOS DEVELOPED YOU'LL NOTICE A VERY LARGE AMOUNT OF OPEN SPACE IN THE AREA. THAT IS FOR A REASON. TRYING TO THINK OF SOME OF THE OTHER QUESTIONS. A LOCALITY OF THE QUESTIONS INVOLVING THE ROAD WHERE THAT WILL CONNECT. IT'LL NOT GO THROUGH THE SUBDIVISION COUNTRY ESTATES.

THERE WILL BE NO CONNECTION THROUGH THERE. THE INTERSECTION IS EXTREMELY DANGEROUS. I DRIVE THROUGH THERE ALMOST EVERYDAY AND ESPECIALLY UNDER CONSTRUCTION IT HAS BEEN EXTREMELY DANGEROUS. THAT IS WARRANTED FOR A SIGNAL. THAT CONSTRUCTION PROJECT DOES INCLUDE A SIGNAL INSTALLATION SO THAT IS A PARTNERSHIP BETWEEN THE STATE OF TEXAS AND THE DEVELOPER. SO TEXAS DOT AND THE DEVELOPER HAVE COME TO GREENS ON ALL OF THAT. I KNOW IT HAS TAKEN A LOT OF TIME. IT'S FRUSTRATING TO DRIVE THROUGH THERE BUT THAT SEEMS TO BE THE TIMES WE'RE IN AS FAR AS THESE TYPE OF THINGS GO BUT THAT IS DANGEROUS. I DO UNDERSTAND THE CONCERN.

THE WATER I THINK MENTIONED ABOUT THE WATER WHERE THEY HAVE, WATER WILL BE CITY OF SAN MARCOS WATER. CURRENTLY I THINK MOST OF THE CITY'S WATER COMES FROM LAKE DUNLAP STILL NEW BROTHELS SO I KNOW THEY'RE WORKING ON PROJECTS FROM WATER FROM EAST TEXAS. I DO NOT KNOW IF THE CITY USES EDWARDS AQUIFER ANYMORE.

IT USED TO BE A DECENT PERCENTAGE BUT I DON'T THINK THEY USE MUCH FOR THEIR WATER SUPPLY IN THE WHICH BUT IT WILL BE CITY UTILITIES IN THE CITY SO THE CITY WILL, THEIR RULES WILL DICTATE DEVELOPMENT. STORM WATER MANAGEMENT LIKE I MENTIONED, THINGS LIKE THAT WILL COME WITHIN THE CITY'S RULES AND THE CITY HAS APPROVED THAT DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WHICH I THINK IS THE 7TH. JORDAN CAN CORRECT ME IF I'M NOT RIGHT ON THAT. THE 7TH AMENDMENT WHICH INCLUDES THIS. THERE WAS A 6TH NOT LONG BEFORE AND WITH RESPECT -- I'LL LET THE DEVELOPER'S REPRESENTATIVE ANSWER SOME OF THE QUESTIONS WITH RESPECT TO THE OFFSET OF DEVELOPER, OF A DEVELOPED LAND SOUTH AND NORTH. IN OTHER WORDS IS ANYTHING IN THE NORTH -- COME ON, IF YOU DON'T MIND, GOING TO BE USED TO PROVIDE FOR ADDITIONAL DENSITIES IN THE SOUTH OR VICE VERSE ARC? IS -- VERSA, IS SOMETHING IN THE SOUTH GOING TO PROVIDE FOR ADDITIONAL DENSITY IN THE NORTH? I'LL SAY ON THE NORTH SIDE AND OBVIOUSLY THERE IS FLOOD PLAIN ASSOCIATED WITH ALL DEVELOPMENT IN THE AREA.

I'M SURE I BELIEVE THAT TRACT IS ROUGHLY 700 ACRES, IS THAT -- WHAT IS THE LA CIMA NORTH TRACT.

>> 658. >> LESS THAN 700 ACRES. AT LEAST A 200 ACRES OPEN SPACE --

>> CORRECT. >> IF YOU COULD EXPLAIN, MAYBE START WITH THE DENSITY BALANCE IS, IS THERE ANY SWAPPING OF DENSITIES THINGS LIKE THAT THAT ARE GOING TO RESULT IN INCREASED DENSITY ON THE SOUTH SIDE BECAUSE OF THIS ACQUISITION OR VICE VERSA? THEN MAYBE SOME OF

THE PLANNED LAYOUT OF NORTH. >> JUDGE BECERRA: BEFORE HE GOES INTO THAT I WANT A LITTLE COMMENT.

THANK YOU FOR APPROACHING THE PODIUM.

I HAVE A REAL INTEREST IN CONTINUITY AND PREDICTABILITY AS A COUNTY THE WAY WE DO BUSINESS, I'M THE NEW FACE ON THE COURT. I KNOW. THAT IS GOOD. AND SOME CAN SAY IT'S BAD. BUT I WILL SAY THAT EVERY TIME WITH THE DEPARTMENT HEADS I RESPECT THEM TO THE BEST OF MY ABILITY TO BE CONSISTENT AND BE PREDICTABLE AND I THINK MR. PACHECO DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DIRECTOR. I TELL HIM I SAY PLEASE REMEMBER PLEASE REMEMBER YOUR JOB IS TO LEAN IN AS THE GOVERNMENT AND SAY, WHAT ARE YOU WORKING ON? HOW CAN I HELP? WHAT ARE YOU WORK WILLING ON? HOW CAN I HELP.

MR. PACHECO, JUST A NOD WOULD BE PRESENT. IS THAT TRUE. THE BEST CAN I DO IS BE CONSISTENT WITH MY MESSAGE, THAT'S WHAT I'M GOING TO TRY TO DO. WE HAVE

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A HISTORY OF CREATING SITUATIONS THAT COMMUNITY MEMBERS DON'T LIKE OR WORSE AS I'VE SEEN TODAY DON'T KNOW ABOUT. THAT'S NOT RIGHT AND THAT'S NOT FAIR.

I'M NOT POINTING TO ANYONE SPECIFICALLY ON THE COURT.

THAT'S NOT MY INTENT. IT'S NOT PRODUCTIVE FOR ME.

BUT THE WAY WE AS A GOVERNMENT ARE DOING BUSINESS IS CLEARLY NOT IDEAL TO YOU, IF NOTHING ELSE. CLEARLY THERE ARE OTHER AGENDA ITEMS THAT I FEEL THE SAME WAY ABOUT. TO EXPAND HIGHWAY 45 IN HAYS COUNTY AND CONNECT THAT, THERE IS A BUNCH OF PEOPLE IN TRAVIS COUNTY THAT DON'T WANT IT. TO GRAB 150 INTO 12. THAT'S A BIG SAME ENERGY THAT I'M RECEIVING AND SO I BELIEVE, COMMISSIONER SMITH, DID YOU RECUSE YOURSELF FROM THE 12 AND 150 PIECE, YOU DID, RIGHT. HOW FAR DO YOU LIVE FROM THE 150 AND 12

CONNECTION, RANCH ROAD 12 -- >> MY PROPERTY TOUCHES THE

PROPERTY. >> JUDGE BECERRA: SO REALLY CLOSE. COMMISSIONER SHELL, FROM THE DESCRIPTION HE GAVE OF HOW CLOSE HE LIVES TO LA CIMA SHOULD RECRUISE HIMSELF. HIS PROPERTY IS DEFINITELY GOING TO CHANGE IN VALUE AFTER THIS TRANSACTION CONTINUES TO EVOLVE. HOWEVER, THAT'S NOT REALLY MY FOCUS HERE, MY FOCUS IS TO TELL YOU THAT I DON'T APPROACH OF -- I DON'T APPRECIATE THE WAY WE AS A COUNTY ARE HANDLING THE CITIZENRY IN THE WAY WE'RE DEVELOPING BECAUSE ALREADY FRONT PAGE OF THE DAILY RECORD, THANK YOU VERY MUCH, DAILY RECORD, WELL, IF IT'LL STAND UP, JACOBS WELL CLOSED FOR THE REMAINDER OF THE YEAR BECAUSE OF LACK OF FLOW OF WATER.

IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT WE REALIZE COMMISSIONER SHELL'S COMMENTS ARE EXACTLY RIGHT. THERE HAS BEEN AN ENORMOUS AMOUNT OF DEDICATION TO RECHARGE. HE IS 100% CORRECT. I VALUE HIS PERSPECTIVE AND THAT IS RIGHT. MY PROBLEM IS, MY PROBLEM WITH THAT STATEMENT IS SIMPLE: ALREADY THE WAY WE SIT TODAY WITH MINIMAL DEVELOPMENT ON THE FOOTPRINT WE HAVE AREAS THAT ARE DRYING UP, WE'VE DROUGHT RESTRICTIONS. WE'VE GOLF COURSES USING DRINKING WATER BEING THE HIGHEST CONSUMER OF WATER. WE'RE MISMANAGING OUR APPRECIATES RESOURCE. I HEAR YOU. I SEE YOU AND -ĂšIG MORE TIME FOR THE COMMUNITY TO UNDERSTAND WHAT IS GOING ON BECAUSE THE BIGGEST MISTAKE WE WILL MAKE AS A GOVERNMENT AS A HAYS COUNTY GOVERNMENT THAT I'M CHARGED TO HELP REPRESENT, THE BIGGEST MISTAKE WE'LL MAKE IS NOT FILLING YOU IN ON WHAT WE'RE DOING OR WHAT SOMEONE ELSE IS PROPOSING TO DO. IF WE NEEDED TO CREATE, I'M GOING TO ASK THIS GET TABLED. IF WE CREATE A SETTING WHERE YOU HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE THAT INTERACTION, TO BE PUT AT EASE TO THE HAVE THOSE FOLKS THAT HELP THE RIVER AND THE CRITICAL VITAL RESOURCE THAT MADE US THE PLAY WE CONTINUE TO INHABIT FOR THOUSANDS OF YEARS, IF WE NEED A LITTLE MORE TIME TOE CREATE THE 8TH AMENDMENT TO LA CIMA, WHY THE HELL NOT? WHY THE HELL NOT? THAT IS MY STANCE, I'M SORRY, IF YOU

WANT TO CONTINUE, GO AHEAD. >> JUDGE, BEFORE YOU DO

THAT, -- >> SURE. YOU MIGHT AS WELL

HAVE A SEAT. >> JUST, IF WE'RE GOING TO -- I APPRECIATE THAT YOU'VE DEVELOPED THIS SUDDEN INTEREST IN THE AQUIFER AND IN WATER POLICY.

>> JUDGE BECERRA: SUDDEN? >> I SAY THIS BECAUSE FOR THE LAST -- I SAY THIS BECAUSE I'VE SAT HERE FOR THE LAST 4 YEARS, WE WERE ELECTED AT 9 SAME TIME ON THE SAME DAY. THROUGHOUT THE PARKS AND OPEN SPACES PROSERBS THROUGHOUT THE DEVELOPMENT WHICH I'M VERY EXCITED ABOUT OF OUR WILL PROBABLY BE THE FIRST COUNTY IN THE ENTIRE STATE OF TEXAS TO HAVE A CONSERVATION DEVELOPMENT PLAN WHEREBY DEVELOPERS CAN COME IN AND WE CAN GUARANTEE AT LEAST 50% OF THE PROPERTY IF THEY DEVELOPED WOULD BE LEFT IN OPEN SPACES. WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, WE AS A COUNTY HAVE VERY LITTLE CONTROL OVER DEVELOPMENT BECAUSE OF STATE LAW. WE'RE ALL FRUSTRATED BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE THE SAME TOOLS THAT A CITY DOES.

THE ONLY THING THAT WE HAVE IS SPECIFICALLY FLOOD PLAIN MANAGEMENT IS, ARE THEY TRYING TO BUILD SOMETHING IN THE FLOOD PLAIN? WE'VE FIRE CODE ON COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS. CAN THEY CONNECT TO A COUNTY ROADWAY WHICH THE STATE MAN DATES WE MUST ALLOW ACCESS TO A COUNTY ROADWAY. WHAT DOES THEIR SEPTEMBERIC SYSTEM, IF THEY'RE CONNECTING TO A MUNICIPAL SEWAGE FACILITY WE DON'T HAVE ANY CONTROL OVER THAT. IF IT'S MORE THAN 5,000 GALLONS A DAY OF SEPTIC WE DON'T HAVE ANY CONTROL OVER THAT. MARC THE FACT IS IS THAT NO ONE, NO ONE ON THIS COURT HAS BEEN MORE INVOLVED WITH OUR

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INDIVIDUAL WATER DISTRICTS, WITH TRYING TO PROTECT OUR WATER -- I CAN EL IT YOU I'VE NEVER SEEN YOU AT A HAYS TRINITY WATER MEETING. I HAVE A' NEVER BEEN TOAK AN EDWARDS AQUIFER MEETING. COMMISSIONER SHELL AND MYSELF HAVE TAKEN THE HELM. HE DID IT LONG BEFORE I DID.

I WILL SAY THAT WE ARE THE ONES WHENEVER IT CAME TO POSAC LOOKING AT THOSE PROJECTS WHO WERE THEY CONCERNED BECAUSE OF OUR REPRESENTATION OF THE WESTERN SIDE OF THE COUNTY OVER TRUE WATER CONSERVATION PROJECT. OVER ONION CREEK, PROTECTING THE WATERSHED PARTNERING WITH PARTNERS LIKE THE CITY OF AUSTIN TO DO AGREEMENTS WHEREBY THEY GET PROTECTION OF THEIR WATER SOURCE WHICH THEIR WATER COMES FROM US BECAUSE WE PROTECT ONION CREEK, WE'RE THE ONES WHO FUT FORTH COMMISSIONER JONES AND I PUT FORTH THE ONION CREEK WATER SHED COUNTY THAT THE COUNTY IS CURRENTLY DOING NOW. SO I, I'M JUST GOING TO BE VERY BLUNT. I'M GLAD THAT NOW THAT WE'RE WITHIN THE PURVIEW OR THE DIRECTION WHERE WHENEVER I PULL UP MY CALENDAR I SEE NOVEMBER IT'S IMPORTANT TO YOU. BUT GRAND STANDING FOR 10 MINUTES ON AN ISSUE YOU'VE NEVER BEEN INVOLVED IN, IT'S, IT'S -- IT'S DISINGENEROUS TO THE PEOPLE WHO TOOK TIME OUT OF THEIR DAY TO COME HERE. WE'RE STATUTORY MAN DATED ON HOW THE NOTIFICATIONS ARE DONE.

WE DO EVERY ONE OF THEM THE SAME.

I DON'T LIKE THE PROCESS. I THINK THE PROCESS IS BROKEN.

I WOULD LOVE TO SEE THE STATE CHANGE THE RULES THEY PUT OUT ON HOW THE NOTIFICATIONS ARE DONE BECAUSE I WOULD SAY THAT NO ONE'S PRECINCT IS IMPOKED MORE THAN ONE. I PROBABLY HAVE 300 DEVELOPMENTS GOING ON. I WISH WE HAD MINIMUM LOT SIZE, I WISH WE HAD MORE CONTROL OVER OVER THE THINGS THAT BRING THESE PEOPLE HERE AND THE LAND USE THAT THEY, THAT THEY ENCUR BUT WE DON'T. I'M JUST -- I THINK I'M DONE LISTENING TO THOSE ARGUMENTS OVER TIME WITHOUT ACTION, AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE NEXT, YOU KNOW, WHAT THE NEXT ISSUE NEXT WEEK WILL BE, BUT THAT YOU HAVEN'T BEEN INVOLVED IN BUT I'M SURE YOU ARE GOING TO BE HIGHLY INVOLVED IN THIS AS WELL. I'M GLAD TO SEE YOU% ARE PICKING UNKED SHOVEL AND

NOT LEANING ON IT. >> JUDGE BECERRA: BEAUTIFUL, SO NICELY SAID. SO, WEAVE NO CONTROL, WE'VE NO AUTHORITY. WE'VE NO JURISDICTION YET COMMISSIONERS SMITH SITS ON THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS FOR THE WEST TRAVIS COUNTY PUBLIC UTILITY AUTHORITY WHERE A PRIVATE GOLF COURSE IS BEING FED THE HIGHEST NUMBER OF GALLONS FOR DRINKS SPRINGS WATER.

I BRING TO THE COURT LOWER COLORADO RIVER AUTHORITY ASKING THEM, ASKING THEM TO SIMPLY CONSIDER INCLUDING MORE PLAYERS, MORE ORGANIZATIONS TO BE PART OF THE WATER CONSERVATION SEVERITY. -- EFFORT, KNOWING AND DOING. ONCE YOU KNOW AND YOU DO NOTHING THAT'S THE REAL BAD PART. BUT I KNEW THAT WAS A GOOD IDEA. TRAVIS COUNTY KNEW IT WAS A GOOD IDEA.

THEY PASS IT IN THEIR COURT RUIN ONOUSLY SO HERE THIS THEATRICAL POSTURING, I DRIVE BY SPRING LAKE EVERY SINGLE DAY. IT'S A BLESSING TO ME BEYOND I'M GRATEFUL TO HAVE IT. KNOWING, KNOWING THAT WE HAVE THIS LOWER COLORADO RIVER AUTHORITY ASK TO PLEASE CONSIDER THE WATER USAGE, TO PLEASE CONSIDER THE IMPLICATIONS BECAUSE OUR STUFF IS DRYING UP ALL AROUND US AND NOT GETTING A SICKLE COMMISSIONER TO SUPPORT IT? THAT'S POSTURING. I DON'T WANT TO TALK YOUR EARS OFF BECAUSE COMMISSIONER SMITH AND I CAN DO THIS ALL DAY LONG. HALF TRUTHS AND WHERE WE HAVE AUTHORITY AND WHERE WE DON'T. UTILITY COMMISSIONS THAT WE SERVE ON. ALL THESE PLACES WHERE WE CAN IMPACT LIVES, I DON'T WANT TO LOSE YOU GUYS WITH A BUNCH OF MUM BO JUMBO. I'LL ASK COMMISSIONER SMITH AND I TO HAVE SOME FORUM ON THIS SO WE DON'T TIE UP YOUR VALUABLE TIME BECAUSE THAT IS MOST VALUE VALUABLE TO ME. IF IT IS OKAY WITH YOU I'M GOING TO LET COMMISSIONER SHELL'S ASK OF PODIUM TO COME BACK. IF YOU'LL STATE YOUR NAME AND TITLE FOR THE VIEWING

PUBLIC. >> ERIC WILLIS, I'M THE DEVELOPER FOR THE LA CIMA PROJECT.

WOW. WE HAVE A LOT TO COVER.

TO THE POINT -- EVERYBODY WHO KNOWS ME KNOWS I TRY TO

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WORK WITH EVERYBODY. I WITH WELCOME AN OPPORTUNITY TO VISIT WITH YOU IN A ARE TOUM AND EXPLAIN TO YOU EVERYTHING THAT HAPPENED FROM COUNTRY ESTATES SINCE DAY ONE AND THE PROVIDE ALVES WE ACHIEVED IN THE LAST YEAR. COMMISSIONER, JUDGE, THE COURT HAS VOTED ON OUR DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT MANY TIMES, THIS IS A FACT. EVERY TIME WE VEND OUR AGREEMENT WE'VE DECREASED OUR DENSITY PER ACRE AND INCREASED THE AMOUNT OF LAND THAT WOULD BE NOT DEVELOPED.

AND LIMITING OUR COVER. -- IMPERVIOUS COVER. TO LON SHELL'S POINT AND SMITH'S POINT AND JUDGE, YOUR POINT.

WITH 3800 ACRES OF LAND AND US LIMITING OUR IMPERVIOUS COVER TO 19% THAT IS 81% THAT IS NOT GOING TO BE DEVELOPED. SO IT FAR EXCEEDS THE 2,000 ACRES, WE'RE LOOKING AT OVER 3100 ACRES OF LAND THAT WILL NOT BE DEVELOPED TO THE POINT OF COUNTRY ESTATES. WE DO FALL IN THIS DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT. WE'RE REGULATED BY THE CITY AND THE COUNTY. OUR EXHIBIT PER THAT AGREEMENT AGREEMENT SAID WE'D SET ASIDE 200 ACRES OF LAND FOR OPEN SPACE, THAT IS LAND DIRECTLY BEHIND COUNTRY ESTATES. I'VE MET WITH FAMILY MEMBERS AND RESIDENTS OF THE SETTLEMENT AS A REPRESENTATIVE OF THE ESTATE AND I SAID TO THEM HOW WE WOULD DEVELOP AND HOW THE SPACES WOULD OCCUR BETWEEN THEIR PROPERTY AND OTHER PROPERTY AND ADDRESSED MANY ISSUES.

I'VE HEARD TODAY QUESTIONS ABOUT LIGHTING. WOULD LOVE TO HAVE LESS DARK LIGHTING DARK SKY ORDINANCE, I FALL UNDER THE DEVELOPMENT RULES OF THE CITY OF SAN MARCOS, THEY CLAIM THEY WANT MORE LIGHTING FOR SAFETY ISSUE, WE'LL GET WATER AND WATERWATER THROUGH CITY OF SARK," OUR STREETS WILL BE CITY ROADS TO THE EXTENT THEY'RE NOT THEY WOULD BE COUNTY ROADS. TO SAY WE DEVELOP IN AN UNREGULATED MAN SER SER A COMPLETE FORCE. I THINK I WOULD LOVE TO EXPLAIN HOW DEVELOPMNT DOES NOT OCCUR IN A VACUUM.

ANYWHERE. WE'RE THE MOST HIGHLY REGULATED OUT THERE. I HAVE TO BE APPROVED BY THE STATE, BY THE COUNTY, BY THE CITY. EVERYTHING WE DO HAS TO BE DESIGNED BY CIVIL ENGINEERING AND CHECKED BY THE COUNTY AND CITY AND STATE ENGINEERS, TO SAY WE DO THINGS IS AN UNREGULATED WAY IS NOT ACCURATE.

I WOULD BECOME AN OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE A WORKSHOP SHY SELF. I DON'T -- MYSELF, I DON'T NEED COUNTRY ESTATES REPRESENTATIVES, I WOULD BE HAPPY IF VIRGINIA WITH SAN MARCOS RIVER FOUNDATION WOULD COORDINATE SOMETHING LIKE THAT. I ONLY TALKED TO VIRGINIA A FEW TIMES BUT SHE HAS KNOWN ABOUT THIS PROJECT. WE'VE LAID THIS MAP OUT AND TALKED ABOUT HOW AS A DEVELOPER, MYSELF AND THE GROUP AND PEOPLE I WORK WITH, TRY TO HELP MAKE SURE WE'RE CREATING MORE OPEN SPACE, WE'RE GOING TO TYING IN TRAILS TO FUTURE TRAIL SYSTEMS THAT EXTEND WELL BEYOND LA CIMA AND SAN MARCOS, TO THE GENTLEMAN'S POINT THAT MENTIONED SOMEBODY BUFFINGTON IS INVOLVED, I BELIEVE THAT IS A MISCOMMUNICATION, WE HAD A HOME BUILDER NAMED BUFFINGTON HOMES, THEY BUILT ONE HOME. THEY'RE NO LONGER IN THE COMMUNITY. THEY'RE NOT AN INVESTOR OR OWNER IN OUR ENTITY AND THEREFORE WHEREVER HE LIVES IF IT'S WHEREVER HE LIVES IS NOT REMITTED TO US.

>> JUDGE BECERRA: ON THAT FRONT FOR THE COMFORT OF THE COMMUNITY MAKE AVAILABLE THE LIST OF INVESTORS AND OWNERS

IN LA CIMA? >> OUR OWNERS ARE LISTEDARS PART OF OUR PUBLIC DOCUMENTS. WHEN WE DO BOND ISSUES, FOR EXAMPLE, WHEN WE DO BOND ISSUES FOR N. I. A.

3 THE OWNERSHIP STRUCTURE IS LISTED IN THE DOCUMENTS, I'LL PROVIDE WHAT WE PROVIDE PUBLICLY WHEN I MEET WITH COUNTRY ESTATES PEOPLE SO THEY CAN GET COMFORTABLE WITH THAT. I'M MORE, AGAIN I WOULD LOVE TO MEET WITH COUNTRY ESTATES AND TALK TO THEM ABOUT THE LAND PLAN, WHAT IS BEING PROPOSED IN THE AREA. HOW MUCH LAND IS BEING SET ASIDE AND THEN TO COMMISSIONERS POINT AND THERE WAS A REPRESENTATIVE POINT ABOUT MOVING DENSITY OVER TO LA CIMA SOUTH BECAUSE OF THE LAND WE'RE DOING LA CIMA NORTH, THAT'S NOT ACCURATE OPINION I CAN SHOW THEM WITH THAT MAP HOW THAT DOESN'T OCCUR, TO THE BIGGER POINT WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE 7TH AMENDMENT WE RESTATED IT 7 TIMES FOR MANY REASONS, SOME OF THEM WERE ASKED BY THE CITY BASE WE WANT WE ADDED LAND AND THEY WANTED US TO ADHERE TO STRICTER DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS, AS WE'VE PROGRESSED AND AMENDED OUR DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WE HAVE AGREED TO MORE STRINGENT DEVELOPMENT REQUIREMENTS AS WE MOVE THROUGH THE PROJECT. EVERY TIME WE ADD LAND WE AGREE TO STRICTER REQUIREMENTS. EVERY TIME WE ADDED LAND WE'VE INCREASED OUR OVERALL UNITS OF HOMES WE CAN BUILD BUT ALSO AGREED TO DECREASE THE NUMBER OF

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UNITS OR DWELLINGS HERE ACRE.

I BELIEVE WE'VE BEEN GOOD STEWARDS OF THE LAND.

I FEEL SOME PEOPLE WHO COMMENT AT THE PUBLIC FORUMS COUNTY AND AND OR CITY THEY DON'T KNOW WHERE LA CIMA S.

I CAN'T BELIEVE THAT WOULD BE THE FACT OF THE COUNTRY ESTATES BECAUSE OF PROXIMITY THAT DO COME AND SPEAK AND THEY HAVEN'T BEEN IN THE PROJECT.

I WOULD LIKE EVERYBODY TO GET ALONG -- MEETING PROCEED AND OUR ITEMS ON THE AGENDA VOTED ON AND I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE YOU UNION AS YOU CONCEPT I KNOW THERE IS DISSENSION BUT I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE UNANIMOUS CONSENT. I WILL MEET AND THE CREATION OF THE PID JUST CREATES ANOTHER LAYER OF REGULATION ON THE LAND. WE ALREADY CAN DEVELOP THAT LAND. SO THE PID ACTUALLY CREATES ANOTHER LAYER OF RULES AND REGULATIONS BY VIRTUE OF THE COUNTY BEING INVOLVED ON A LEVEL THAT THEY WON'T BE INVOLVED IN NORMALLY. SO IT DOES INCORPORATE THE CITY AND THE COUNTY INTO SEEING HOW THE PROJECT PROGRESSES HOW IT MOVES FORWARD.

THERE WERE A LOT OF THINGS DISCUSSED TODAY THAT PEOPLE BROUGHT UPS THAT I WOULD LOVE TO -- I WILL SIT DOWN WITH ANYBODY AND DISCUSS THEM AS ANYBODY DOES.

>> JUDGE BECERRA: COMMISSIONER INGALSBE.

>> ERIC, THANK YOU FOR ALL THE INFORMATION THAT YOU SHARED. IT'S NOT MY AGENDA ITEM BUT I WILL ASK THE QUESTION BECAUSE -- I THANK YOU FOR YOUR WILLINGNESS TO MEET WITH COUNTRY ESTATE RESIDENTS. AND TO HAVE THAT TIME TO MEET WITH THEM, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE TIMELINES ARE HERE. IF SOMETHING NEEDS TO HAPPEN TODAY OR NOT. I GUESS WE CAN HEAR THAT FROM OTHERS. BUT WOULD YOU BE WILLING TO TAKE THE TWO WEEKS TO GET A MEETING TOGETHER WITH THE COUNTRY ESTATES WITHOUT ANY ACTION TODAY?

>> WELL, YOU ASKED ME -- I WOULD RATHER NOT.

AND I WOULD RATHER MEET WITH COUNTRY ESTATES PEOPLE AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. NEXT WEEK.

I BELIEVE THE NEXT COMMISSIONERS COURT MEETING IS SEPTEMBER 13. I WOULD LOVE TO MEET WITH COUNTRY ESTATE REPRESENTATIVES OR% THE WHOLE COMMUNITY SEX -- NEXT WEEK AS SOON AS HUMAN COORDINATED.

ONCE I LAY OUT THAT TO THEM AND I PLAIN -- I BELIEVE ONCE I HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO EXPLAIN HOW WE PROGRESSED AND HOW WE'VE GOTTEN TO THIS POINT AND THE SIZE OF THE PROJECT AND THE MAPS AND EVERYTHING THAT I CAN SHARE WITH THEM, THAT THEY WOULD SEE THAT DEVELOPMENTS IS GOING TO OCCUR. AND PUTTING YOUR HEAD IN THE SAND DOESN'T KEEP IT FROM OCCURRING.

I BELIEVE THAT WE AND MY GROUP AND THE PEOPLE I WORK WITH ARE VERY CONSCIOUS OF THE FEELS OF OTHERS AND RESPECT THEIR CONCERNS AND I CAN ADDRESS THOSE. AND THEN WE BE BACK ON THE AGENDA ON THE 134TH AND THE COUNT -- 13TH AND COUNTRY ESTATE PEOPLE CAN COME BACK AND SAY WHETHER OR NOT THEY FELT GOOD ABOUT IT OR NOT. I WOULD RATHER KEEP THE SCHEDULE AS IT IS, AND TRY TO MEET WITH THEM, WELL BEFORE THE SEPTEMBER 13TH

MEETING. >> YOU ARE HOPING FOR A VOTE TODAY THEN A MEETING AFTER THAT?

>> YEAH. , YES, MA'AM. >> IS THAT WHAT YOU ARE SAYING? [PAUSE]

>> TABLING IT DOESN'T CHANGE ANYTHING. IT STILL DOESN'T -- I'M STILL GOING TO MEET WITH COUNTRY ESTATES.

THAT'S NOT GOING TO CHANGE. >> I UNDERSTAND THAT. I WAS JUST -- I THINK I WAS CONCERNED ABOUT THE MEETING FIRST AND GETTING, YOU KNOW, ADDITIONAL INFORMATION.

I DIDN'T THINK IT WAS UNREAM OF -- UNREASONABLE OF A REQUEST SO THAT'S WHY I'M ASKING.

>> DOES THAT MESS UP OUR TIME LINE OR COMMISSIONER

SHELL? >> I BELIEVE WE WOULD EITHER NEED TO KEEP THE PUBLIC HEARING OPEN OR WE WOULD NEED TO RENOTICE BUT I'LL LET OUR BOND COUNSEL GU

INTRICATE DETAILS ON THAT. >> I'M ACTUALLY HOUSTON WITH THE LAW FIRM OF OWE RIG. WE'VE TWO OPTIONS TODAY.

WOUND, TRULY 3. ONE YOU COULD CONTINUE THE PUBLIC HEARING. TO A DATE CERTAIN AND A TIME CERTAIN. TWO, YOU CAN CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

UNDER THE STATUTE, YOU HAVE UP TO 6 MONTHS TO CREATE THE PID, AFTER CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING OR 3, YOU COULD CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND PROCEED. SO THOSE WOULD BE YOUR 3 OPTIONS UNDER THE STATUTE AT

THIS POINT IN TIME. >> JUDGE BECERRA:

COMMISSIONER JONES. >> YES, I'VE HAD ENOUGH QUESTIONS -- I HAD ANOTHER QUESTION, YOU SAID THIS

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PROPERTY COULD BE DEVELOPED WITHOUT THE PID.

>> CORRECT. >> WITHOUT THE PID IT WOULD BE MORE HOMES -- I MEAN EXPLAIN WITHOUT THE PID WHAT WOULD HAPPEN TO THE PIECE OF PROPERTY.

>> WITHOUT THE PID WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO DEVELOP UNDER THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT THAT ALLOWS US TO WORK WITHIN THE CITY WITHOUT THE PID, WE WOULD STILL BE ABLE TO DO THE SAME HOMES AND INFRASTRUCTURE. WE WOULD POSSIBILITY CHANGE UP SOME OF THE DEVELOPMENT PROCEEDING GOING FORWARD. IT COULD CREATE THE SCENARIO WHICH WE COULD CREATE A M. U. D.

>> JUDGE BECERRA: MUNICIPAL UTILITY DISTRICT.

>> IT DOESN'T CHANGE WHERE I SEE THE COMMUNITY OR THE DEVELOPMENT GOING. IT MAY CHANGE SOME OF THE FINANCING STRUCTURE OF IT BUT IT DOESN'T CHANGE THE ULTIMATE

PLAN OF THE DEVELOPMENT -- >> WITHOUT THE PID THE COUNTY DOESN'T HAVE AS MUCH CONTROL --

>> THAT'S CORRECT. THE PID ACTUALLY GIVES THE COUNTY CONTROL IN WAYS THAT THE COUNTY DOES NOT HAVE CONTROL NOW AND WOULD NOT HAVE CONTROL IF THEY --

>> IT'S, I'M SORRY, IT'S KIND OF THE KIND OF CONTROL WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO GET FROM THE LEGISLATURE FOR A

WHILE. >> JUDGE BECERRA: NICE, WHAT DO YOU HAVE TO GO THROUGH TO GET A MUNICIPAL UTILITY DISTRICT IF YOU DIDN'T GET A PID. WHAT WOULD BE THE

PROCESS? >> THE GENERAL PROCESS WOULD BE YOU EITHER FILE A PETITION WITH THE T. C. Q.

OR GO THROUGH A LEGISLATIVE PROCESS.

THE LEGISLATURE WOULD BE IN SESSION NEXT YEAR AND GO THROUGH THE PROCESS AND YOU CREATE A MUNICIPAL UTILITY

DISTRICT. >> JUDGE BECERRA: NOT A CAKE

WALK. IT'S NOT A CAKE WALK. >> IT'S DO-ABLE.

I'VE DONE IT RECENTLY. IT'S VERY DO-ABLE. THESE ARE THINGS YOU COULD DO. IT GOES BACK TO THAT BUT THEN A M. U. D. DOESN'T INCORPORATE THE COUNTY'S INVOLVEMENT AT

ALL. >> JUDGE BECERRA: THE LEAN RESPONSE TO WHY THEN FOR THE VIEWING PUBLIC, WHAT IS THE PURPOSE OF BENEFIT OF AS THE DEVELOPER, OF THIS PID?

>> FOR US IT'S FINANCING INFROM STRUCTURE WHETHER IT'S PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT OR MUNICIPAL UTILITY DISTRICT, IT'S ABOUT BUILDING INFRASTRUCTURE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, IT'S PAID FOR BY THE RESIDENTS.

THEREFORE IT'S NOT COUNTY BONDS FROM THE GENERAL OBLIGATION OF THE REST OF THE COUNTY PAYING FOR ROADS OR WATER OR WATER WAIST. IT'S FINANCING INFROM STRUCTURE AND THE RESIDENTS IN THE AREA PAYING FOR THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS. THAT IS HOW THAT WORKS.

>> JUDGE BECERRA: SORRY, TO SUMMARIZE IT FOR YOU, WHAT THE PID IS DOING FOR THE DEVELOPER IS IT'S ALLOWING THEM TO GET A LOW INTEREST LOAN TO DO THIS DEVELOPMENT, AND THE COUNTY IS THE COSINER. THAT'S WHAT THE PID, THE MOST BOILED DOWN VERSION THAT'S WHAT THE PID

HELPS THEM DO. >> THE OTHER THING, JUDGE, THIS I THINK MAY HAVE BEEN GLOSSED OVER THERE IS WE MADE A STRONG COMMITMENT HERE THAT GROWTH SHOULD PAY FOR GROWTH. WHEN WE LOOK AT PID AND -- PIDS, THE THING THAT FOR ME IS IMPORTANT AND INCENTIVIZES IT FOR ME WHEN YOU LOOK AT A PIECE OF PROPERTY LIKE THIS AND THEY PUT A PID ON IT, ME AS ARE A COUNTY RESIDENT ON THE WEST SITE OF THE COUNTY IS NOT PAYING FOR IMPROVEMENTS ON THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY. IT'S THE ACTUAL RESIDENTS WHO ARE GOING TO BE LIVING ON THE PIECE OF PROPERTY AND WHENEVER THEY CLOSE ON THE PROPERTY, THEY UNDERSTAND THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE AN EXTRA LINE ON THAT TAX BILL THAT GOES INTO PAYING BACK FOR THE IMPROVEMENTS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD IN WHICH ARE THEY LIVE.

SO THAT WAY THE NEIGHBORS, THE NEIGHBORS WHETHER THEY LIVE IN DRIBBING SPRINGS OR SAN MARCOS AREN'T PAYING AUTHORIZE THOSE IM IMPROVEMENTS. IT'S A WAY FOR US TO INSURE WE'RE NOT PAYING TO INCENTIVIZE FURTHER DEVELOPMENT BY PAYING FOR ADDITIONAL INFRASTRUCTURE FOR DEVELOPERS.

>> JUDGE BECERRA: DID YOU WANT TO STILL SPEAK? PLEASE APPROACH THE PODIUM. JUST FOR THE VIEWING PUBLIC WE'RE STILL UNDER THE PUBLIC HEARING. THAT'S WHY WE'RE HAVING A LITTLE BIT OF A DIMINISHED STRUCTURE OF THE BACK AND FORTH. BUT USUALLY I WOULD RUN IT TIDY. I'M PROUD OF MY EFFORTS OF RUNNING A TIDY COURT BUT THIS IS A LITTLE BACK UNDER FORTH FOR THE REASON MUCH

THE WAY IT'S OPENED. >> HELLO THANK YOU, VIRGINIA PARKER WITH THE SAN MARCOS RIVER FOUNDATION AGAIN.

I WANT TO GO ON RECORD AND STATE THAT THE SAN MARCOS RIVER FOUNDATION IS HAPPY TO CO-HOST A WORKSHOP BEFORE OR AFTER A DECISION IS MADE WITH THE WHOLE COMMUNITY IN ADDITION TO THE HILL COUNTRY ESTATES COMMUNITY. I DO WANT TO FOCUS A POINT ON THE FACT THAT HAYS COUNTY HAS A DEVELOPMENT GUIDELINE WHICH STATES DENSITY IN THE RIGHT

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AREAS WITH GREEN BELT BUFFERS AROUND THEM ARE ACTUALLY GOOD FOR THE ENVIRONMENT. SO IF YOU WILL ALL PLEASE AT SOME POINT GO AND LOOK AT THAT. IT'S YOUR OWN DOCUMENT. IT HAS YOUR OWN STUDIES IN IT AND I'VE HEARD A LOT PEOPLE TALK ABOUT WE WANT MORE ACREAGE PER HOME. THAT IS THE OPPOSITE OF WHAT YOU ARE STUDY STATES. IT ALSO TALKS ABOUT FINANCES FOR THESE DEVELOPERS AND HOW ACTUALLY SOMETIMES THEY COME AHEAD BECAUSE THEY PUT ALL LITTLE MODULES SO THEY'RE NOT PAYING AS MUCH FOR ALL OF THE WATERWATER ANDWATER LINES VERSUS SPREADING THEM OUT, BLOWING THEM UP. IT MAKING ISSUES FOR WELL WATER AND THEN LASTLY SO PLEASE GO LOOK AT THAT. I ENCOURAGE ALL OF HAYS COUNTY RESIDENTS AND ALL OF TEXAS TO LOOK AT THAT. IT'S A GREAT DOCUMENT. LASTLY, I JUST WANT TO ASK THE QUESTION I AGREE THAT THE PID DOES PAY FOR THE DEVELOPMENT PAYING FOR ITSELF WHICH IS IMPORTANT TO ALL OF THE RESIDENTS OF HAYS COUNTY.

WOULD A M. U. D. DO THE SAME THING? I'M NOT SPEAKING FOR OR AGAINST A M. U. D. I'M DUROUS, THEN ALSO I'M WONDERING IF THERE IS ANOTHER AMENDMENT IF THE HOW MANY TIMESY DEVELOPMENT GUIDELINE COULD BE INCLUDED IN THAT AND ALSO IF THAT IMPERVIOUS COVER OF 19% COULD COME DOWN SINCE WE'RE TALKING NOT GRASSLANDS OUT EAST OF I-35. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT RECHARGE ZONE AND THAT IS OUR OWN CONCERN ABOUT THIS DEVELOPMENT. THANK

YOU. >> JUDGE BECERRA: THANK YOU.

I'LL SAY 3 MORE FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS THEN SHUT IT DOWN.

ONE MORE BACK. THERE I SAW.

IF ANOTHER ONE POPS UP -- [INDISCERNIBLE]

>> WE'RE -- I'M CINDY -- >> EXCUSE ME FOR ONE SECOND.

BEFORE WE START, IF WE COULD, I KNOW IN THE PAST WE'VE LIMITED IT TO SOMEONE TESTIFYING ONE TIME.

AND NOT COME BACK. AND BACK AND BACK. SO IF WE COULD CONTINUE TO DO THAT, THAT WOULD BE GREAT.

>> JUDGE BECERRA: THAT'S HOW IT HAS BEEN.

>> THANK YOU, I APPRECIATE IT.

>> I'M CINDY MIER, I LIVE IN COUNTRY ESTATES.

I'VE FOR 30 SOMETHING YEARS. AND WE ARE ACREAGE WIDE WE ARE A GOOD SIZED SUBDIVISION BUT WE'VE 3 ACRE LOTS. THE PEOPLE THAT SHOWED UP HERE, THIS IS A LARGE PERCENTAGE OF OUR RESIDENTS THAT FOUND OUT ABOUT SOMETHING LAST NIGHT. AND MY HUSBAND AND I TOOK THE DAM, THE RECHARGE DAM IS, I GUESS IT WOULD BE EAST OF OUR HOUSE, WE'RE BELOW IT. SO AFTER ONE OF THE FLOODS I GOT RALPH TO WALK BACK THERE WITH ME. I MEAN IT WAS A WALK. IT'S ROUGH COUNTRY. AND WE WENT IN AFTER THE WATER HAD DRAINED WHICH TOOK A COUPLE OF DAYS AND THERE WAS ACTUALLY HOLES DRILLED IN SOME OF THE BIG ROCKS BECAUSE IT IS SOLID ROCK. AND THAT'S HOW THE WATER GETS DOWN INTO THE AQUIFER. WELL, I'M SORRY.

THAT WATER IS NOT GOING THROUGH THE PROCESS OF BEING CLEANED. IT'S GOING STRAIGHT INTO THE AQUIFER.

SO I THINK WE NEED TO BE AWARE OF THAT BECAUSE IT IS SOLID ROCK.

>> JUDGE BECERRA: THAT'S A GREAT POINT. MISS MIER, THANK YOU SO MUCH. WE'RE BYPASSING THE NATURAL FILTRATION AND CREATING A TANK STORK. THAT'S A GOOD TECHNIQUE IN OTHER SETTINGS BUT IT BYPASSES THE NATURAL

PROCESS. >> YOU MAKE A GOOD POINT.

WHERE I LIVE I LIVE DIRECTLY ADJCENT TO ONION CREEK, WE'VE DONE THE COUNTY A LONG WITH THE HAYS COUNTY AQUIFER AUTHORITY HAVE DONE A SOME OF DIE TESTS STUDIES WHERE THEY PLACE DYE IN THE CREEK ITSELF AND THE FISSURES IN THE CREEK YOU WOULD THINK THAT THE DYE WOULD SHOW UM, YOU KNOW MAYBE IN A WEEK OR TWO DOWNSTREAM IN A WELL OR THE FACT IS WHEN WE'VE DONE THE STUDIES THEY.

YOU UP IN AN HOUR OR -- THEY POP UP IN AN HOUR OR TWO BECAUSE IT'S TRULY AN UNDERGROUND RIVER. BUT WE HAVED -- IT IS A HARD TO BELIEVE BUT WE'VE SIMILAR STRUCTURES TO WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT THAT ARE MAN MADE. WE HAVE GOT THE STRUCTURES THAT ARE NATURALLY OCCURRING ALL OVER THE HILL COUNTRY IN THE FISSURES THAT THEY PRODUCED THE SAME THING, THEY BYPASS THE REAL FILTRATION SYSTEM THAT WE HAVE ON A DAILY BASIS. HOPEFULLY WE'RE GETTING THEM FULL RIGHT NOW

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OUTSIDE. >> JUDGE BECERRA: STATE YOUR

NAME FOR THE PUBLIC. >> ANDREW JAMES. MY FAMILY OWNS THE PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT IS RANCH ROAD 12 IN FRONT OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD. SORRY, I'M NOT A PUBLIC SPEAKER BY ANY MEANS SO I'M A LITTLE NERVOUS.

>> JUDGE BECERRA: YOU ARE DOING A GREAT JOB.

KEEP IT UP. >> WE'VE BEEN IN CONTACT WITH LA CIMA, I'VE NEVER MET I THINK IT'S ERICHING I NEVER TALKED WITH HIM. -- ERIC, I'VE TALKED WITH SEVERAL REPRESENTATIVES OF PROPERTY. THEY'VE BEEN GREAT FOR US. THEY PRESENTED US WITH DOCUMENT AIR, THEY PRESENTED US WITH THINGS THAT WE'VE ASKED FOR.

I THINK WE HAVE THE LARGEST FENCE LINE CONTIGUOUS TO THEIR PROPERTY. WE HAVE BEEN VERY IMPRESSED WITH WHAT THEY'VE DONE AND SHOWED US AND HELPED US WITH. WE DO WANT TO CONTROL GROWTH. WE UNDERSTAND GOING TO HAPPEN AROUND US. AND NOBODY HAS GOTTEN UP AND SAID ANYTHING IN THEIR FAVOR AND I JUST FELT LIKE SOMEBODY NEEDED TO SAY THEY HAVE BEEN OPEN FOR US.

GRANTED WE'RE RIGHT THERE AND WE DO HAVE A LARGE PIECE OF PROPERTY BUT THAT PROPERTY IS GOING TO BE DEVELOPED. IT HAS BEEN IN THE PROCESS FOR A LONG TIME. WE KNEW ABOUT THAT BACK WHEN J. P.

RAN THE RANCH 25 YEARS AGO. MY MOTHER IN LAW WAS BORN ON THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY 88 YEARS AGO, WE'VE HAD THE PROPERTY FOR OVER 100 YEARS, WE UNDERSTAND IT IS' GOING TO BE DEVELOPED. WE WANT IT DEVELOPED PROPERLY. AND THEY'VE SHOWN US SO FAR THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO. I WANT THAT HAD TO BE SAID BY

SOMEBODY. >> JUDGE BECERRA: OK. THANK YOU. NOW WE'RE GOING TO GO ON TO DR. CARDENAS WRITTEN COMMENTS. I'LL ASK YOU DOCTOR CARDNESS IF THERE ARE COPE PASTE STATEMENTS STATE THEIR NAMES BUT DON'T KEEP

READING THEM OVER. >> THERE ARE ALMOST 50 AND ABOUT HALF OF THOSE ARE THE SAME. WHEN I GET THERE --

>> JUDGE BECERRA: IT'S CUSTOMARY FOR ME TO ASK DR. CARDENAS TO DO IT, WE VALUE EVERYONE'S EFFORT EVEN IF IT'S A COPY PASTE BUT WE DON'T HAVE TO READ THE SAME THING OVER AND OVER. THAT'S WHY I DO IT THIS WAY.

SHE HAS ALREADY SEPARATED THEM, AM IT RIGHT?

>> YES. >> JUDGE BECERRA: PERFECT.

READ THE FULL STATEMENT ONCE THEN ADD NAMES TO IT.

>> THIS ONE IS FROM STEVEN RAMIREZ. WITHOUT EXHAUSTING MYSELF I'M VEHEMENTLY AGAINST THE LA CIMA MART PID WHICH WOULD AMPLIFY THE HARMFUL DAMAGE ALREADY COMMITTED BY THE EXISTING LA CIMA VENT.

SAN MARCOS HAS CREATED CITIZEN DRIVEN PREFERRED SCENARIO MAPS THAT STEERS HARMFUL DEVELOPMENT AWAY FROM OUR MOST SENSITIVE RESOURCES.

THE COUNTY AND CITY SHOULD FOLLOW THE ADVICE OF THE STEERING DOCUMENT. LA CIMA NORTH SHOULDN'T BE ENABLED. WATER QUALITY LIKE POLLUTION, AIR POLLUTION WILDLIFE HABITAT, TRAFFIC, OUR QUALITY OF LIFE IS ALL ON THE LINE HERE AND IT NEEDS TO STOP HERE AND NOW. DO NOT SUPPORT THE LA CIMA NORTH DEVELOPMENT AND ITS PID. FROM SHANNAN BROWN, I'M E-MAILING IN REGARDS TO THE LA CIMA PID.

I DO NOT AGREE THAT A SUBDIVISION COUNTS AS PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT REGARDLESS OF ANY AMENITIES, TRAILS OR GREEN STORMWATER BUILT. KEEPING THE RECHARGED ZONE UNDER DEVELOPED IS KEY TO KEEPING THE SAN MARCOS RIVER FLOWING. THIS SUBDIVISION DEVELOPMENT DOES NOT DESERVE FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE FROM THE COUNTY. LAUREN GOODLY SAYS I AM WRITING TO BEG YOU TO PLEASE NOT APPROVE THE $60 MILLION PID FOR LA CIMA NORTH ADDING BUILDING TO 684 PLUS ACRES OVER THE RECHARGE ZONE.

WE'RE ALREADY EXPERIENCING CLIMATE CHANGE. OUR QUALITY OF LIFE AND THAT OF OUR CHILDREN AND OUR CHILDREN'S CHILDREN RELY ON DECISIONS WE MAKE TODAY.

ALL ECONOMIC GROWTH IS NOT GOOD GROWTH.

PLEASE BE RESPONSIBLE TO THE CITIZENS AND ENVIRONMENT OF HAYS COUNTY BY PROTECTING THE RECHARGE ZONE AND OUR WATER SUPPLY. JILLIAN MAXWELL SAYS WHEN WILL WE HAVE TO STOP BEGGING AND PLEADING NOT TO BE POISONED BY THIS STATE? IF THE PLANNED ACREAGE IS DEVELOPED BY LA CIMA ON THE AQUIFER'S RECHARGE ZONE YOU ARE DOING DAMAGE TO THE VITAL ECHO SYSTEM OF CENTRAL TEXAS AND THE DRINKING WATER OF 2 MILLION PEOPLE.

PLEASE STOP THIS CRUELTY FOR THE SAKE OF FINANCIAL GAIN.

IT'S SHORT SIGHTED AND INCREDIBLY SELFISH. JENNA SMITH SAYS I'M WRITING TO EXPRESS CONCERN WITH THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT OVER THE AQUIFER RECHARGE ZONE.

GIVEN OUR CURRENT DROUGHT SITUATION AND THE ANTICIPATION OF FUTURE ISSUES I FIND THE PROPOSAL TO BE BLATANTLY IRRESPONSIBLE. IN ADDITION TO BEING IRRESPONSIBLE IT WOULD ALSO BE USING TAX DOLLARS TO FUND SOMETHING THAT COULD HAVE HAD, THAT COULD HAVE AN ADVERSE AFFECT ON OUR COMMUNITY AND ITS WATER SUPPLY. I FULLY EXPLORE DEVELOPMENT

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AND GROWTH. HOWEVER, AS A RESIDENT OF A NEW DEVELOPMENT, I'M SEEING FIRST HAND WHAT HAPPENS TO THE LAND. I SEE THE FILT AND GROUND WATER GETTING CARRIED AWAY. I SEE THE ITEMS LEFT BEHIND BURIED WE NEATH THE LANDSCAPE. I REAT IS PART OF IT. IT'S NOT ALL GOOD. AFTER ALL I RECEIVED MY HOME THAT I LOVE, HOWEVER I DO THINK THAT PROPERTY MITIGATION NEEDS TO BE PUT INTO PLACE WITH A DEVELOPMENT CONTRACT. THERE NEEDS TO BE CLEAR OWNERSHIP AND ACCOUNTABILITY TO THESE ITEMS. AFTER ALL IS SAID AN DONE THEY PACK UP AND ROLL OUT LEAVING BEHIND WHATEVER FOR WE THE PEOPLE TO DEAL WITH.

NICKY C. CONTRERAS SAYS I WOULD LIKE TO SUBMIT A COMMIT TO CONSIDER IN THEIR DISCUSSIONS. SAN MARCOS WAS MY FIRST HOME. MY PARENTS AND GRAND PARENTS ARE FROM HERE. THEIR FAMILIES WERE FROM HERE AND IT'S FOR THEM THAT I FEEL PERSONALLY RESPONSIBLE FOR PREVENTING THE DISASTER THAT WOULD FOLLOW SUCH IMMENSE DEVELOPMENT AS LA CIMA, PARTICULARLY ABOVE AN AQUIFER RECHARGE DON'T. AS YOU'VE HEARD TIME AND TIME AGAIN, 1.5 MILLION CENTRAL TEXANS RELY ON THAT FOR CLEAN DRINKING WATER. THIS IS NOTHING TO BE TRIFLED WITH AND RIGHT NOW, YOU ARE AGREEING TO GIVE AWAY THIS LAND FOR A MULTIMILLION DOLLAR TAX BARGAIN HOPING FOR ENOUGH PROPERTIES TO MAKE THE BAD DEAL SEEM WORTHWHILE WHEN THE DAMAGE WILL BE IRREVERSIBLE. THERE ARE OTHER SPACES IN SAN MARCOS AND HAYS COUNTY THAT DO NOT ENDANGER OUR MOST APPRECIATES WATER SOURCE AND THE EXPANSIVE DELICATE ECHO SYSTEM THAT IT SUPPORTS, THIS IS AN UNNECESSARY RISK WITH IMMEDIATE CONSEQUENCES. THE WORST CONSEQUENCES OF YOUR DECISIONS WILL BE SUFFERED BY OUR CHILDREN AND GRANDCHILDREN. CURRENT LEADERSHIP WILL NOT BE UP EFFECTED. YOU HAVE THE POWER RIGHT NOW TO STOP PRIORITY IDENTIFYINGICS EXTENSION AND DO THE RIGHT THING FOR OUR COMMUNITY, OUR FAMILIES, OUR YOUNG PEOPLE. FOR LIFE LONG RESIDENTS OF SAN MARCOS, FOR PEOPLE LIKE ME. WHOSE FAMILIES HAVE BEEN STEWARDS OF SAN MARCOS' NATURAL RESOURCES FOR A CENTURY. BECAUSE WE'RE AT ODDS WITH EXECUTIVE SHAREHOLDERS, PROFITEERS AND EXPLOITERS SOME OF WHOM ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THIS STATE OF OUR AQUIFER AS IT IS PRIORITIZING AN ECONOMY OVER CLEAN DRINKING WATER SHOULD BE CONSIDERED CRIMINAL. WHAT IS RIGHT FOR THOSE PEOPLE IS NOT RIGHT FOR US, WHAT MAKES THEM MONEY IS WHAT WILL DESTROY WHAT WE LOVE AND WHAT GIVES US LIFE.

IF YOU HAVE ANY PRIDE IN BEING FROM HERE OR ANY APPRECIATION FOR ALL THAT MAKES SAN MARCOS WONDERFUL YOU CAN STOP THIS RIGHT NOW. YOU CAN PREVENT CERTAIN ECOLOGICAL COLLAPSE, YOU CAN REJECT ANY PROPOSAL FOR EXPANSION AND DEVELOPMENT. YOU CAN MAKE ECOLOGICAL PRIORITY A CITY GOVERNMENT NORM AND STANDARD THAT PERSISTS LONG AFTER YOU HAVE MOVED ON. I'M EGG ABOUTING YOU TO USE YOUR POWER FOR GOOD RIGHT NOW AND PLEASE CONTACT ME IF YOU HAVE ANY DESIRE TO TALK. LISA ARSENAULT SAYS FOR THE AUGUST 30, COMMISSIONERS COURT MEETING I'M WRITING AGAINST ITEMS IN THE AGENDA K. 1 THROUGH 6 LA CIMA NORTH PID.

THE PROPOSED PID IS 100% OVER THE EDWARDS AQUIFER RECHARGE ZONE ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE LARGE DEVELOPMENT WITH IMPERVIOUS COVER AND ADDITIONAL IMPERVIOUS COVER IN THE FILM PENDING.

SYNC CREEK DISCHARGES TO THE HEAD WARDS OF SPRING LAKE 5 MILES DOWNSTREAM. MORE THAN 10% OF IMPERVIOUS COULD HAVE CAUSE DEGRADATION AND SPRING LAKE IS VULNERABLE TO INCREASES OF PHOSPHATE AND NITRATE FOUND IN URBAN RUNOFF. THE MAP SHOWS SYNC CREEK HAVING A WIDE RANGE OF FLOOD ZONES AROUND IT COVERING MUCH OF THE PROPERTY. THERE IS A SOIL CONSERVATION SUR VIS DAM NUMBER 2 IN OR NEAR THE PROPERTY.

PROPERTY IS IN PROBABLE GOLDEN CHEEK WARBLER HABITAT. IT IS A PROBABLY I THINK SHE MACHINES GOLDEN CHEEK WARBLER HABITAT.

IT HAS STEEP SLOPES AND DRINKS TO AN COUNTRY ESTATES. THIS PROPERTY NEEDS TO BE LEFT UNDEVELOPED ONLY WALKING TRAILS MADE OF NATURAL MATERIALS SHOULD BE PLACED ON THIS PROPERTY OR LEFT ALONE ALL TOGETHER.

NICKY LAKE WRITES I'M WRITING IN REGARD TO THE LA CIMA NORTH CUB IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT.

THIS PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT OF 684 ACRES IS LOCATED ON THE EDWARD AQUIFER RECHARGE ZONE. I'M OPPOSED TO THIS PROPOSAL. WE'RE CURRENTLY EXPERIENCING HISTORIC DROUGHT CONDITIONS. WE'VE ALREADY DEVELOPED AND COVERED MORE MUCH THE RECHARGE ZONE THAN WE SHOULD HAVE LESSENING RECHARGE INTO OUR AQUIFER. WE'RE EXPERIENCING A WATER CRISIS. THE EDWARDS AQUIFER NOT ONLY PROVIDES DRINKING WATER TO MILLIONS OF PEOPLE IN CENTRAL TEXAS BUT ALSO

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CONTAINS MANY ENDANGERED ENDEMIC SPECIES. WE CANNOT CONTINUE WITH UNBRIDLED DEVELOPMENT OVER RECHARGE AREAS AND BE ABLE TO SUPPORT OUR POPULATION'S WATER NEEDS. MORE AND MORE PEOPLE ARE MOVING TO OUR AREA POINTING TO THE NEED FOR MORE WATER PROTECTIONS NOT LESS. ADDING MORE IMPERVIOUS COVER IN THIS AREA WILL INCREASE FLOODING THE IMPACT OF WHICH WE KNOW TOO WELL. I URGE YOU TO VOTE NO ON THIS PROPOSAL AND PRESERVE THIS AREA AS MUCH NEEDED RECHARGE. IT'S IMPERATIVE TO THE SUSTAINABILITY OF OUR COMMUNITY THAT WE EMBARK ON WELL PLANNED WELL THOUGHT OUT AND WELL PLACED INVESTMENT MOVING FORWARD.

WALLACE BROWN WRITES IT SEEMS LIKE DEVELOPERS ARE SET ON RUINING EVERYTHING GOOD ABOUT THIS BEAUTIFUL NATURE FILLED AREA. HOPEFULLY THESE COMMENTS ARE TAKEN SERIOUSLY BECAUSE IT CURRENTLY LOOKS AS IF THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE HERE MEAN NOTHING.

THE AREA SLOTTED FOR DEVELOPMENT IS CRITICAL TO GET RAIN WATER INTO THE AQUIFER WHICH PROVIDES WATER FOR 2 MILLION CENTRAL TEXAS PEOPLE.

HAVING ACCESS TO WATER AS ANY HUMAN SHOULD KNOW IS IMPORTANT IF THIS ISN'T COMPLETELY OBVIOUS IT SHOULD BE. DESTROYING THE AREA TO BUILD A PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT IS LUDICROUS ESPECIALLY CONSIDERING THE PROJECT'S BONES HAVE THE POTENTIAL TO CAUSE HARM TO THE PUBLIC WHICH IT'S SUPPOSED TO IMPROVE.

I THINK NO VALID PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT IS COMPLETED THROUGH THE DESTRUCTION OF A NATURE AREA LET ALONE A CRUCIAL PART IN THE AREA'S WATER SYSTEM. AS A CITIZEN WHO LIKES THE RECHARGE ZONE AND DRINKING WATER THIS DEVELOPMENT IS IMCREDIBLY IN-- INCREDIBLY UNWISE, PLEASE RECONSIDER. DEVON GREEN, I WAS NOT MADE AWARE OF THE PROPOSED PID DISTRICT FOR LA CIMA UNTIL LATE LAST NIGHT SO WAS NOT ABLE TO FILL OUT THE P.D.F.DOCUMENT BEFORE I REACHED WORK THIS MORNING.

HOWEVER I WORK FOR THE STORMWATER DEPARTMENT FOR THE CITY OF SAN MARCOS AND I PERSONALLY UNDERSTAND GRAVE IMPORTANCE OF PROTECTING OUR RECHARGE ZONE. WITH SKY ROCKING GROWTH, ALLOWING MORE SUBURBAN CENTRAL WITH 0 POROUS AND OR EARLIABLE SURFACES WILL BE DETRIMENTAL TO THE PROGRESSIVE GROWTH OF THE CITY AND IT'S OUR CITY BEING A SHINING EXAMPLE OF ENVIRONMENTAL EXCELLENCE.

SO PLEASE VOTE NO ON MISCELLANEOUS DEPEND OOH ITEM -- AGENDA ITEMS 1-6. KAT DENNIS SAYS GOOD EVENING. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

I'VE RECENTLY HEARD LA CIMA NORTH IS BEING PREPARED TO BE BUILD OVER 648 ACRES MORE OR OF OUR EDWARD AQUIFER RECHARGE ZONE. PLEASE NO MORE.

IF THE LOW FLOWS AND WORSE IN OUR LOCAL RIVERS AND SPRINGS HAVE NOT BEEN ENOUGH TO CONVINCE US OF OUR AQUIFER'S IMPORTANCE I FEAR WHAT WILL BE, WE CANNOT AFFORD TO LOSE MORE RECHARGE AREA AND NATURAL SPACES.

PUT OUR NATURAL RESOURCES FIRST IN YOUR DECISIONS.

CONSIDER RELOCATING THE DEVELOPMENT REQUIRING INCREASED ENVIRONMENTAL SAFETY AROUND WHAT HAS LEACHED INTO THE GROUND BUILDING MATERIALS USED, INCREASE THE APT OF OLD GROWTH TREES THAT MUST RETRAIN, TRASH HANDLING, PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION, RAINWATER MANAGEMENT CAPTURE AND STORMWATER MANAGE.

ALSO KNOWN AS WHAT E. R. A. DOES. REQUIRED RAIN WIND AND SOLAR HARVESTING. PERMEABLE PAYMENTS AND INCREASED RESTRICTIONS ON LIGHT POLLUTION, WE HAVE TO CONSIDER WHAT WE'RE HANDING DOWN TO OUR CHILDREN.

PLEASE DON'T FORGET OUR BEAUTIFUL HEAD WATERS AND SISTER RIVERS ALONG WITH OUR ALREADY STRESSED WATER AND ELECTRIC UTILITY. KIMBERLY MIGHTSON SAYS I'M PROVIDING A FEW COMMENTS ON THE LA CIMA NORTH PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT BEING PROPOSED OVER THE EDWARDS AQUIFER RECHARGE ZONE. I'M OPPOSED TO DEVELOPING THIS 684 ACRES FOR NUMEROUS REASONS, TO STATE IT SIMPLY THE EDWARDS AQUIFER RECHARGE ZONE NEEDS MORE PLANNED PROTECTION NOT LESS. THERE ARE MANY BENEFITS TO PROTECTING LAND IN THE RECHARGE ZONE.

I HAVEY A LISTED SEVERAL IMPORTANT ONES HERE.

SUSTAINING AQUIFER RECHARGE AND PROTECTING WATER QUALITY, THE E. A. A. STAGE 4 DROUGHT. REDUCING RUNOFF RATES AND VOLUMES TO PREVENT MAKING FLOOD CONDITIONS MORE HAZARDOUS ESPECIALLY GIVEN THIS REGION'S FLASH FLOOD ALLEY. PROVIDING HABITAT FOR WILD LIVE INCLUDING THE ENDANGERED GOLDEN CHEEK WARBLER. PROTECTING A CORRIDOR EVER LIMITED LIGHT POLLUTION WITHIN THE HILL COUNTRY PROVIDING GREEN SPACE PARKS AND TRAILS TO SUPPORT ACTIVE LIFE STYLES, HAYS COUNTY VOTERS SUPPORTED THE PARKS AND OPEN SPACE

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ADVISORY COMMISSION POSAC PROJECT TO PROVIDE WHAT THE COMMUNITY VOTED FOR AND WANTS MORE OF. PARKS AND OPEN SPACE, NOT DEVELOPMENT OVER THE INCREDIBLY SENSITIVE EDWARD AQUIFER RECHARGE ZONE. DO NOT SUPPORT THE LA CIMA NORTH DEVELOPMENT AND PID BUT ENCOURAGE THE PROTECTION AND CONSERVATION OF THIS LAND IN PERPETUITY TO THE BENEFIT OF PEOPLE AND THE ENVIRONMENT.

THIS IS SETTING, THIS IS -- THIS IS CHINA VOILA, THIS IS SETTING AN UNHEALTHY PRECEDENT TO ALLOW BUILDING OVER THE FRAGILE RECHARGE ZONES.

OUR WATER SHEDS NEED TO BE PROTECTED LAND. WE CAN LOOK AT NEW MEXICO AND NEVADA AS EXAMPLES OF WHAT CAN HAPPEN WITH POOR MANAGEMENT. BEN HUTCHINS WRITES I WOULD LIKE TO CLEARLY STATE MY VEHEMENT OPPOSITION TO THE PID FOR ADDITIONAL LA SEEM, A DEVELOPMENT -- LA CIMA DEVELOPMENT. THIS IS IN THE CRITICAL RECHARGE ZONE. AS DEVELOPMENT CONTINUES THERE CAN NEVER BE MORE RECHARGE ZONE ONLY LESS, EACH OF THE DEVELOPMENTS ERHODES THE VIABILITY OF OUR RECHARGE ZONE NEGATIVELY IMPACTING THE AQUIFER, OUR SPRINGS AND THE SAN MARCOS RIVER.

THIS IS NOT THEORETICAL. SAN MARCOS HAS A CHANCE TO -- (STAND BY FOR CAPTIONS.) WE'VE HAD ENOUGH AND FUTURE SAN MARCOS RESIDENTS WILL JUDGE US BASED ON THESE KIND OF DECISIONS. THE SAN MARCOS REFER IS AN ECONOMIC AND SOCIAL DIAMOND FOR SAN MARCOS AND SHOULD BE PROTECTED AS SUCH. PLEASE DENY THE PID. THANK YOU. JILL BEGAN SAYS I'M AGAINST THE LA CIMA PID PROPOSAL. THIS AREA IS A WILDLIFE CORRIDOR TO THE CITY'S CURRENT PARKLANDS AND IS IN A VITAL RECHARGE HOT SPOT. SAN MARCOS CREATED A SCENARIO MAP THAT STEERS HARMFUL DEVELOPMENT SUCH AS THIS AWAY FROM OUR MOST SENSITIVE RESOURCES.

THE COUNTY AND CITY SHOULD FOLLOW THE ADVICE OF THE STEERING DOCUMENT. LA CIMA NORTH SHOULDN'T BE ENABLED.

WATER QUALITY, LIGHT POLLUTION, AIR POLLUTION, WILDLIFE HABITAT, TRAFFIC OR QUALITY OF LIFE.

I SEE THIS AS A FREE HAND OUT OF CITIZENS' HARD EARNED TAX DOLLARS. EXCUSE ME. LA CIMA IS NOT SHORT ON CASH. THEIR DEVELOPERS ARE BEYOND WEALTHY. IF THEY WANT TO PUT IN KNEW UTILITIES OVER SUCH A BECAUSE OF THE AREA THEY SHOULD FINANCE IT THEMSELVES

AT CURRENTLY MARKET RATES. >> JUDGE BECERRA: IS THAT GOD TALKING TO US? [LAUGHTER]

IS THAT GOD TALKING TO US. >> PARDON ME.

DEBBY HERNANDEZ SAYS GOOD EVENING, I RECENTLY WAS MADE AWARE THAT LA CIMA WOULD LIKE TO DEVELOP AN ADDITIONAL LARGE SUM OF ACREAGE WHICH SITS OVER AN AQUIFER RECHARGE ZONE. I'M WRITING TO SAY THAT I'M STAUNCHLY AGAINST THIS. WE LIVE IN A REGION WHICH HAS AN ALREADY STRAPPED WATER SUPPLY.

THAT SUPPLY HAS BEEN COMPOUNDED BY RECENT DROUGHTS OVER THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS AND A HUGE BOOM IN DEVELOPMENT. IT'S TIME TO STOP AND TAKE A LOOK AT WHAT THE IMPLICATIONS OF LARGE DEVELOPMENT SUCH AS THIS HAVE ON OUR WATER SUPPLY. NOT ONLY DOES THIS ADD AN EXPONENTIAL AMOUNT OF WATER USAGE PER HOUSEHOLD DRINKING LAUNDRY, IT'S ALSO TAKING AWAY FROM WATER RECHARGE. SO IT'S A MUCH GREATER PROBLEM WHEN YOU LOOK AT IT AS A TWOFOLD ISSUE IT IS USING MORE PLUS CREATING A DEFICIT IN RECHARGING OR SUPPLIES DUE TO INCREASED RUNOFF AND DRIVEWAYS, ROADS, ROOFTOPS AND CONTESTIMONY RATIONS FROM-- CONTAMINATIONS FROM PETS, ETC. I WOULD HOPE LOCAL GOVERNMENT WILL LOOK AT REPORTS AND DATA ON WATER IS SUPPLY FOR OUR REGION.

WE MUST ACT NOW TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE.

AS AN ALTERNATIVE LET'S GIVE GRANTS TO TURN AROUND OLDER NEIGHBORHOODS THAT ARE LESS DESIRABLE. FROM FRONT PORCH GRANTS TO LAWN PROVEMENT TO EXPANSION GRANTS. LET'S WORK WITH WHAT WE HAVE AND STOP THE FLIGHT FROM AREAS THAT AGE. LET'S ENCOURAGE CONCEPTS THAT WILL HAVE A MORE POSITIVE IMPACT ON OUR SUSTAINABILITY AS A COMMUNITY IN THE LONG RUN.

THINK BEYOND MONEY THAT WILL IMPACT OUR FUTURE GENERATIONS. TRULY THE TIME TO ACT IS NOW. KIMBERLY MIGHTSON WRITES I'M PROVIDING A FEW COMMENTS ON THE LA CIMA NORTH PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT BEING PROPOSED OVER THE EDWARDS AQUIFER RECHARGE ZONE. I'M OPPOSED.

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THE RECHARGE ZONE NEEDS MORE LAND PROTECTION NOT LESS, THERE ARE MANY BENEFITS PROTECTING LAND IN THE RECHARGE ZONE. I HAVE ALISTED SEVERAL MORN ONES HERE. ONE, SUSTAINING AQUIFER RECHARGE AND PROTECTING WATER QUALITY, THE E. A. A. JUST DECLARED STAGE 4 DROUGHT BECAUSE OF LOW AQUIFER AND SPRING FLOW LEVELS, TWO REDUCING VALUES TO PREVENT MAKING FLOOD CONGRATULATION MORE HAZARDOUS ESPECIALLY GIVEN THIS REGION IS ALREADY FLASH FLOOD ALLE YE.

PROTECTIONING NATURAL VEGETATION TO REDUCE URBAN HEAT ISLAND FOUR PROVIDING HABITAT FOR SPECIES, 5, PROTECTING A DARK SKY CORRIDOR OF LIMITED LIGHT POLLUTION WITHIN THE HILL COUNTRY AND 6, PROVIDING GREEN SPACE, PARKS AND TRAILS TO SUPPORT HEALTHY ACTIVE LIFE STYLES AND BENEFIT ECOTOURISM. HAYS COUNTY VOTERS SUPPORTED THE PROM TO BETTER PROVIDE WITH THE COMMUNITY WANTS MORE OF PARKS AND OPEN SPACES NOT DEVELOPMENT OVER THE INCREDIBLY SENSITIVE EDWARD AQUIFER RECHARGE ZONE. PLEASE DO NOT SUPPORT THE LA CIMA NORTH DEVELOPMENT AND PID BUT ENCOURAGE THE PROTECTION AND CONSERVATION OF THIS LAND IN PERPETUITY TO THE BENEFIT OF PEOPLE AND THE ENVIRONMENT.

NOW I HAVE 26 THAT ALL SAY THE SAME THING SO I'LL READ IT AROUND READ NAMES OF THE PEOPLE.

I'M WRITING TO YOU AND HOPE THAT YOU WILL ALIGN YOURSELF WITH THE CITIZENS OF HAYS COUNTY AND VOTE AGAINST MISCELLANEOUS AGENDA ITEM 4 DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO ADOPT A RESOLUTION OF HAYS COUNTY TEXAS AUTHORIZING AN CREATING THE LA CIMA SOUTH PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT. AFTER THE EVENT OF DARK MONDAY OVER 6,000 PEOPLE CAME TOGETHER VIRTUALLY TO OPPOSE THE CITY OF SAN MARCOS APPROVING A TAX INCENTIVE FOR A FILM STUDIO. WE KNOW THIS ISN'T WHAT IS BEING VOTED ON IN THE MEETING WE DO KNOW THAT THE CITIZENS OF HAYS COUNTY OPPOSED BIGS DEVELOPMENT ON -- BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT ON THE PARTS OF THE RECHARGE ZONE BELONGING TO THE COUNTY. I FIRMLY BELIEVE ANY DEVELOPMENT ON THE RECHARGE ZONE IS DETRIMENTAL TO THE SAFETY OF THE AX WHICHEVER AND -- AQUIFER.

BY VOTING AGAINST THIS ITEM OUR COUNTY CAN BE A POWERFUL LEADING FORCE IN THE FIGHT FOR INCREASED ENVIRONMENTAL SUSTAINABILITY IN OUR CITINGS AND AN EXAMPLE FOR CITIES THROUGHOUT TEXAS, THANK YOU. DYLAN COOPER.

BRANDON SMITH. DERICK DOUGLAS. NICOLE DUFFY.

JENNIFER GOOD. LEIA KUDABAK. REAGAN DOTT. EVAN SIMONS: ELIZABETH MATT OR LILY MATT. WESTON KIRK.

SKYLER MENDEZ, EMILY MC GEAR. HEATHER DYER.

ERIN GOMEZ. ALYSSA JIMINEZ. RYAN GRINNELL. SHANNON HOBRICH. LA KLEEA MILES: SEGURA. AND HUMBERTO TRAVINO JUNIOR, MILLION ALEA HARRIS, PAOLO SORTOD, JORDAN DUNLAP, LILY LEAVES, STEVEN PARKER.

>> JUDGE BECERRA: THANK YOU, YOU DESERVE A BIG BOTTLE 6 WATER AFTER ALL THAT READING. NOW IN CLOSING OF THE PUBLIC HEARING I WANT TO, BEFORE I CLOSE IT I WANT TO ASK THE COMMISSIONERS IF THEY'VE ANY PARTING THOUGHTS THEY WOULD LIKE TO SHARE BEFORE I CLOSE THE PUBLIC

HEARING? >> COUPLE OF COMMENTS --

>> >> JUDGE, THANK YOU, I WANT TO THANK EVERYBODY THAT CAME OUT TODAY. YOUR COMMENTS ARE VERY IMPORTANT TO ALL THE OF US. AND I, I'M NOT SURE WHERE ERIC WENT TO, BUT -- [INDISCERNIBLE]

>> I WANTED JUST TO SAY THAT I WASN'T REALLY TRYING TO BE CRITICAL OF YOUR DEVELOPMENT OR LA CIMA DEVELOPMENT. WE WORKED FOR MANY YEARS WITH YOU ALL. I'VE BEEN VERY SUPPORTIVE. I REALLY APPRECIATE THE PRESERVATION OF LAND THAT Y'ALL HAVE PROVIDED.

AND THE 19% OF DEVELOPMENT, ONLY 19 OF DEVELOPMENT. HOWEVER, I STILL JUST FEEL THAT IT'S

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REASONABLE TO ASK JUST FOR A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME IN ORDER FOR YOU AND I KNOW THAT YOU ARE SAYING THAT YOU WILL MEET WITH THE RESIDENTS OF COUNTRY ESTATES AND OTHERS. I APPRECIATE THAT. AND I WANTED TO SAY ALSO IN, YOU KNOW, AT THIS MEETING, I KNOW THAT I BELIEVE IT WAS JOE SCHNEIDER THAT MENTIONED ESTABLISHING A, WHAT HE CALLED A DECENT BUFFER. TAKING THAT INTO ACCOUNT.

HE TALKED ABOUT AN EASEMENT, AN EXISTING EASEMENT AND NOT USING THAT AS THE ENTRANCE. I THINK THAT WAS ADDRESSED.

I THINK SOMEBODY SAID THAT WOULDN'T BE DONE. I THINK THERE WAS ONE OTHER ISSUE THAT HE MENTIONED, BUT I DON'T RECALL WHAT THAT WAS AND I DIDN'T GET TO WRITE IT DOWN. BUT. SO I, YOU KNOW I'M HOPING THAT DELAYING ANY KIND OF VOTE FOR A COUPLE OF WEEKS, YOU KNOW, YOU WOULD CONSIDER BECAUSE THAT'S, I FEEL THAT WAY. I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE VOICE THEIR CONCERN THAT THEY DID NOT HAVE ANY NOTICE UNTIL LATE LAST NIGHT AND JUST TO GIVE EVERYBODY AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK WITH YOU AND MEET WITH YOU AND DISCUSS WHATEVER IT IS THAT THEY'D LIKE TO DISCUSS AND THEN COME BACK AFTER THAT AND WE CAN TAKE THE VOTE. BUT THAT IS WHERE I'M SITTING RIGHT NOW.

>> JUDGE BECERRA: COMMISSIONER --

>> I ASK, LIKE TO ASK COMMISSIONER SHELL DO YOU HAVE PREFERENCE ON IF WE TABLE IT OR DO YOU WANT A

VOTE TODAY? >> I'LL ADDRESS THAT IN MY COMMENTS. THERE WERE SOME COMMENTS MADE. ONE WAS ABOUT A TAXPAYER INVESTMENT SUBSIDY, ETC. WHAT THIS ITEM IS TODAY OR THESE TWO HEARINGS ARE ABOUT THE CREATION OF A PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT SO THAT IS THE DISTRICT ITSELF. THE CREATION OF THAT DISTRICT. THE ORIGINAL LA CIMA PID WAS CREATED IN 2012 I BELIEVE. MAYBE 2013. SO THIS IS THE ADDITIONAL OF ANOTHER PARCEL THAT WILL BE INCLUDED IN A PID CALLED LA CIMA NORTH THEN WE HAVE LA SEEM ARC SOUTH PID WHICH WAS THE EXISTING LA CIMA PID PLUS ITS TERRITORY EXPANDED WHICH ACTUALLY INCLUDED WHAT WILL BE CONSERVATION LAND. AND THE PID, PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT, IS FUNDED BY PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN THE DISTRICT. SO ANYONE WITHIN IN A BOUNDARY THAT OWNS LAND NOW, ANY DEBT THAT IS ISSUED THEY'LL PAY THAT DEBT. THE OWNERS OF THE PROPERTY IN THE DISTRICT. SO AS HOMES ARE SOLD, THOSE HOME OWNERS ARE THE ONE THAT IS PAY ASSESSMENT. COMES ONS THEIR TAX BILL AS A SEPARATE PAYMENT. THEY PAY FOR ALL OF THOSE IMPROVEMENT, ROAD, SIDEWALKS, DRAINAGE, WATER, WASTEWATER, PARKS, ETC. WITHIN THAT SUBDIVISION.

M. U. D.'S HAVE BEEN MENTIONED.

UTILITY DISTRICTS WHICH ARE TACTING AUTHORITIES. THEY CREATE A TAXING AUTHORITIES AND THE OWNERS WITHIN THE DISTRICT PAY A TAX TO PAY FOR IMPROVEMENTS. WE ALSO HAVE TAX INCREMENT REINVESTMENT ZONES. KISSING TREE SUBDIVISION IS ONE OF THOSE, IN THE MODEL, THE DEVELOPER PAYS TO IMPROVE, TO MAKE THE IMPROVEMENTS, ROADS, WATER, SEWER, ETC. AND THEN IS PAID BACK WITH AN INCREMENT OF THE TAXES THAT ARE GENERATED FROM WITHIN THE BOUNDARY. SO IN THAT CASE, IF YOU BUY A HOME IN KISSING TREE AND THE VALUE INCREASES OVER TIME AS HOMES ARE BUILT, A PERCENTAGE OF THAT GOES TO THE CITY AND THE COUNTY IS A PARTNER IN THAT. WE DEFER A PERCENTAGE OF TAX REVENUE. THE CITY GETS T. THEY USE THAT TO PAY FOR THOSE PUBLIC IMPROVEMENTS. IN THIS CASE, 100% EVER -- OF THE PUBLIC IMPROVEMENTS ARE PAID FOR THOSE WHO OWN OR WILL OWN PROPERTY WITHIN THE BODGEDRY. SO THE COUNTY IS NOT GIVING UP ANY OF ITS TAX DOLLARS TO BUILD OR CONSTRUCT ANY OF THESE TYPES OF IMPROVEMENTS. FURTHERMORE, EVERYTHING THAT THE COUNTY DOES OUR CONSULTANTS IS FUNDED BY THAT PID. SO WE'RE, YOU ARE NOT PAYING FOR THE PROFESSIONAL LEGAL WORK. CONSULTING TO CREATE THIS.

THE OWNERS OF THE PROPERTY ARE PAYING AND THE FUTURE OWNERS WILL BE PAYING FOR THAT. ONE THING BECAUSE I HEARD THE WORD "YOU "SEVERAL TIMES THAT THE SOUNDY WAS TAXPAYERS WERE PAYING, THINGS LIKE THAT. WATER WAS COMMENTED ABOUT SEVERAL TIMES, AGAIN THIS WATER WILL COME FROM THE CITY OF SAN MARCOS WATER SUPPLY. WILL NOT BE FROM LOCAL GROUNDWATER THERE ON SITE.

POSAC WAS MENTIONED, PARKS OPEN SPACE ADVISORY COMMISSION, VOTERS IN 2020 PASSED A 75 MILLION DOLLAR BOND FOR THE INVESTMENT IN PARKS AND OPEN SPACE BY THE

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COUNTY SO COUNTYWIDE, PREVIOUSLY THE COUNTY HAD PASSED WHEN I THINK IT WAS $30 MILLION. AROUND 2010, 2008. SOMEWHERE IN THAT RANGE, WHICH PAID FOR SOME OPEN SPACE AND SOME PARKS. FOR INSTANCE THE FIVE MILE SOCCER FIELDS WERE FUNDED BY THAT BOND ELECTION. SO IN 2020 THE COUNTY PASSED $75 MILLION.

THE VOTERS OF HAYS COUNTY PASSED $75 MILLION DOLLAR BOND FOR PARKS AND OPEN SPACE, IT PASSED BY 70%, 70% OF THE RESIDENCE OF HAYS COUNTY SUPPORTED T. OF THAT OVER $10 MILLION OF THAT $75 MILLION IS GOING IN CONSERVATION OF REPORTS THAT ARE EITHER ADJACENT TO OR WITHIN 500 FEET OF A LA CIMA PROPERTY LINE. WHEN PEOPLE SAY THE COUNTY HASN'T MADE AN INVESTMENT IN CONSERVATION IN THE EDWARDS AQUIFER RECHARGE ZONE WE'VE SPEND MORE THAN 10% AS OF PROBABLY A FEW WEEKSING A NOW WE'RE IN NEGOTIATION ON TWO PROJECTS, WE'LL HAVE SPEND MORE THAN 10% OF EVERYTHING THE VOTER APPROVED IN PROTECTING LANDS OVER THE EDWARDS ACK WIRE RECHARGE ZONE EITHER ADJACENT TO THE LA SEEM ARC PROPERTY, THE PID BOUNDARY LINE OR A FEW HUNDRED FEED FEET OF THAT. THAT'S IMPORTANT TO KNOW WHEN WE HEAR ABOUT DEVELOPMENT. WE ALL HEAR ABOUT DEVELOPMENTENT A THE IMPACTS DEVELOPMENT HAS ON OUR LIVES, THE COUNTY HAS A PRETTY STRONG TRACK RECORD AND THE CITY AS WELL OF INVESTMENTS IN LANDS TO PROTECT THE RE CHARGE ZONE SPELL AROUND THIS AREA OF SAN MARCOS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, THAT HAS BEEN DONE FOR SOMETIME NOW. IT HAS BEEN HIGHLY SUPPORTED BY THE VOTERS. AND I WILL DEFINITELY TAKE ALL OF THE BLAME FOR THE NOTIFICATION PROBLEM WITH COUNTRY ESTATES. I BELIEVE THE CITY MANAGER EVEN LIVES IN COUNTRY ESTATES RIGHT NOW. AND I GUESS IT'S JUST SOMETHING WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON FOR SO LONG.

I DROPPED THE BALL WITHOUT AT LEAST HAVING SOME TYPE OF PUBLIC MEETING WITH RESIDENTS TO SHOW THEM WHAT LA CIMA WAS DOING AND HAD BEEN PLANNING.

PART OF IT IS THAT LAND, THAT PART OF THE FREEMAN TRUST WHICH IS DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WE CALL THE FREEMAN RANCH AND THAT TRUST, HAS BEEN FOR SEAM FOR AS LONG AS I CAN REMEMBER. WE'VE HAD A LOT OF COUNTY THAT HAVE EITHER PUT THAT LAND UNDER CONTRACT OR WERE PUTTING THAT LAND UNDER CONTRACT ABOUT DEVELOPMENT.

I KNOW THEY'VE GONE TO THE CITY IN THE SAME WAY. I THINK MAYBE 10 YEARS AGO PEOPLE WOULD HAVE SAID THE PRICE FOR THE PROPERTY WAS PRICED SO HIGH THAT THERE WASN'T AS MUCH INTEREST IN IT. OBVIOUSLY THE MARKET CAUGHT UP WITH THAT AND THAT'S WHAT HAPPENED BUT THERE HAD BEEN A LOT OF INTEREST RECENTLY ON THAT PARCEL IN DEVELOPING THAT PARCEL.

I'M SURE THE CITY HAD A LOT OF IT BECAUSE MOST PEOPLE ARE GOING TO END UP GOING TO THE CITY FOR UTILITIES.

IT'S GOING TO BECOME A CITY SUBDIVISION, SINCE WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT IT FOR SO LONG AND I'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT LA CIMA SINCE THEY PROBABLY HAD THAT UNDER CONTRACT ABOUT POTENTIALLY WHAT WOULD HAPPEN, I'LL TAKE FULL RESPONSIBILITY THERE IS RESIDENTS IN COUNTRY ESTATES THAT ARE IN THE AWARE OF THE ACTUAL DEVELOPMENT, WHAT IS BEING PLANNED. THAT PROCESS THAT LIKE I SAID HAS GONE THROUGH THE CITY AND THE COUNTY IN MAY TO PUT THE SORT OF GROUND RULES. ONE THING ABOUT HAVING THE CITY OF SAN MARCOS, HAVE IT BE IN THE CITY OF SAN MARCOS AND COMMISSIONER SMITH WAS TALKING ABOUT COUNTY RULES AND REGULATIONS AND THE COUNTY HAS VERY LITTLE TO SAY ABOUT WHAT HAPPENS. IF THERE WERE DEVELOPED THE COUNTY WAY IT WOULD BE DEVELOPED IN PROBABLY A MORE SIMILAR WAY TO COUNTRY ESTATES LARGER LOTS, INDIVIDUAL WELLS AND SEPTICS WHICH IS HOW IT WOULD BE DEVELOPED. IF THEY GOT PUBLIC UTILITIES IT WOULD BE DEVELOPED IN A VERY PROBABLY COULD BE DEVELOPED EVEN MORE DENSELY THAN IT'S NOW IF IT WERE' STILL IN COUNTY BECAUSE THE COUNTY WOULD HAVE SO LITTLE CONTROL OVER EXACTLY HOW IT'S DEVELOPED. THE PID, THE ORIGINAL PID WHICH WAS BEFORE MY TIME WAS A WAY FOR THE COUNTY TO HAVE A SAY AND FOR THERETO TO BE MORE STRINGENT REQUIREMENTS PUT ON THE SUBDIVISION. THAT REALLY COMES THROUGH THE CITY AND WHEN THE REPRESENTATIVE OF LA CIMA TALKED ABOUT THE PROCESS WITH THE CITY, THAT WAS A MULTIYEAR DISCUSSION AND NEGOTIATION WITH THE CITY TO GET TO WHAT ORIGINALLY EVENTUALLY BECAME THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT FOR LA CIMA, IT DOES HAVE MANY PROTECTIONS AND LESS DENSITY THAN OTHERWISE WOULD HAPPEN.

I KNOW THAT FOR SOMEONE THAT IS LIVING NEXT DOOR TO IT, NONE OF THAT REALLY MATTERS, IT'S ABOUT, YOU KNOW, I DON'T WANT THIS THINGS THAT COME ALONG WITH THIS. AGAIN

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I COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND AND WOULD BE IN THE SAME POSITION IF I DID THAT. BUT WHEN COMMENTS ARE MADE ABOUT PROTECTIONS, THERE ARE A LOT OF PROTECTIONS IN PLACE THROUGH THE CITY RULES, ESPECIALLY OVER THE RECHARGE ZONE ESPECIALLY RELATED TO STORMWATER RUNOFF, WATER QUALITY. I WOULD SAY THEY'VE SOME OF THE MOST STRINGENT RULES AROUND FOR THOSE TYPE OF THINGS SO THAT IS AN ADVANTAGE TO HAVE KNOWING THAT DEVELOPMENT IS GOING TO OCCUR AND THERE'S GOING TO BE SOME PRETTY SOPHISTICATED REGULATION OF HOW THAT OCCURS IF IT WAS JUST IN THE COUNTY, THAT WOULD NOT OCCUR. THAT WOULD NOT BE WHAT HAPPENS.

>> JUDGE BECERRA: OKAY. COMMISSIONER --

>> JUST, I WANTED TO MAKE ONE, ACTUALLY A COUPLE OF POINTS. THERE WAS A QUESTION EARLIER TO -- I THINK IT WAS ACTUALLY MR. LYON'S, ONE OF YOUR EARLY COMMENTS AS TO THE DIFFERENCE ON THE FUNDING MECHANISM. WHENEVER WE LOOK AT A PID VERSUS A M.

U. D. AND THERE WAS A QUESTION RELATIVE TO THAT THE DIFFERENCE IS IN A VERY BASIC LEVEL THE PID ALLOWS FOR THOSE ENTITIES TO GO OUT AND BOND THAT FUNDING ON THE FRONT END SO IT'S A FINANCIAL MECHANISM TO LET THEM GET THAT MONEY SO THEY CAN GO IN AND DO THE IMPROVEMENTS ON THE FRONT END THAT ARE NEEDED FOR THE COMMUNITY AS A MUDD DOESN'T NECESSARILY HAVE THE SAME ABILITY. IT TAKES IT FARTHER OVERTIME AND SO IN A LOT OF CASES I'M NOT SAYING SPECIFICALLY HERE BUT IN A LOT OF CASES PRIDES APPRECIATABLE BECAUSE YOU CAN GET THE FUNDING OUT AND -- PID ARE -- THE OTHER THING THAT I WOULD SAY IS AS WE LOOK AT THE IMPACT BOTH ON THE AQUIFER AND ON THE OVERALL ONION CREEK WATER SHED AND THE BLANCO WATERSHED THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT CLOSER TO SAN MARCOS, THE COUNTY HAS FOR A LONG TIME -- I WOULD VENTURE TO GUESS MISS PARKER WOULD BE ABLE TO VERIFY THIS -- WE PROBABLY SPENT MORE OF OUR, WHAT I WOULD CALL DECISION -- DISCRETIONARY COUNTING ON THE WATER QUALITY THAN ANY OF THE OTHER UNDERRING COUNTRIES, IT'S NOT JUST A APPRECIATE FOR US BUT IT IS' PROBABLY THE PRIORITY AT LEAST ON THE WESTERN SIDE OF THE COUNTY WHERE I REPRESENT.

BECAUSE IT HAS BEEN MENTIONED SEVERAL TIMES ABOUT THE WEST TRAVIS P. U. A. TODAY.

PART OF THAT, THE, A POSITION OF THAT CAPITAL -- A PORTION OF THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN WAS GETTING ESTIMATES FROM THE OVERALL WATER USERS IN THE AREA, HOW MANY NEW HOMES WOULD BE THERE IN THE NEXT 10-YEAR PERIOD AND HOW MUCH WATER WOULD BE NEEDED FOR THEM.

SO WE ACTUALLY WORKED WITH THE CITY OF DRIPPING SPRINGS, WITH THE DRIPPING SPRINGS WATER SUPPLY CORP TO TRY TO GET A GOOD ESTIMATE FOR HOW MANY HOURS.

THE ESTIMATE THEY GOT FOR THE AREA WHERE SOMEWHERE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF 18 TO 20,000 HOMES IN THE NEXT TEN YEARS JUST WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS REALLY OF DRIPPING SPRINGS, A LITTLE BIT OUTSIDE OF IT. IF THAT IS THE CASE THE VOLUME OF WATER THAT IS AVAILABLE THROUGH THE WEST TRAVIS COUNTY P. U. A. WE'D RUN OUT OF WATER IN EIGHT YEARS. SO THAT TELLS US THAT WE'RE DOING EVERYTHING, OR THAT PUTS US ON A COURSE THAT WE HAVE TO DO ABSOLUTELY EVERYTHING THAT WE CAN TO INSURE THAT THE WATER IS AVAILABLE FOR THOSE CURRENT RESIDENTS. SO WE'RE WORKING VERY HARD TO TRY TO IDENTIFY THOSE OTHER SOURCES OF WATER OUTSIDE OF OUR AQUIFER AND OUTSIDE OF THE HILL COUNTRY AND IN THE SAME, IN THE SAME VEIN TRY TO ADDRESS HOW OR TRY TO BEING LOOK AT HOW WE CAN HAVE AN IMPACT ON THAT HERE.

YOU KNOW. BE THAT AND WHENEVER I SAY HOW WE CAN DO THAT HERE, THAT WAS REALLY THE IMPETUS BEHIND COMMISSIONER SHELL AND I GOING OUT COMMISSIONING THE STUDY AND I GUESS IT HAS BEEN ALMOST 3 YEARS AGO, ON HOW TO MAKE ADJUSTMENTS TO OUR DEVELOPMENT PLAN HERE IN HAYS COUNTY TO CREATE A CONSERVATION DEVELOPMENT TITLE. THAT CONSERVE DEVELOPMENT TITLE, I GLOSSED OVER IT EARLIER. WE'RE GUARANTEED 50% OF ANY PROPERTY WOULD BE SET ASIDE, THAT WENT THROUGH THE PLAN WOULD BE SET ASIDE FOR DIRECT GREEN SPACE CONSERVATION. ONE EVER THE ITEMS IN THERE -- ONE OF THE ITEMS IN THERE ACTUALLY MENTIONED BY MISS PARKER WAS ALLOWING FOR CERTAIN CONCENTRATIONS OF HOUSING OR DEVELOPMENT WITHIN ENVELOPES IN LARGER GREEN SPACE AREAS WHAT WE CALL CLUSTERING TO PREVENT ADDITIONAL INFRASTRUCTURE HAVING TO BE FUT -- PUT IN MACMINDSING

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THE -- MAXIMIZING THE GREEN SPACE THERE. THERE WOULD BE DIRECT INCENTIVATION FOR NOT USING WELLS, SPECIFIC SNIFFIZATION FOR RAINWATER COLLECTION, ALL OF IT WOULD BE PAID FOR BY THE RESIDENTS THAT ARE MOVING THERE.

THAT'S WHY I'VE BEEN SO SUPPORTIVE OF IT. THAT'S ONE OF THE MAINEVER PLAIN REASONS I'VE BEEN SO SUPPORTIVE OF IT BUT AS WE LOOK AT THE WAYS TO CHANGE OUR RULES. I ENCOURAGE YOU TO CONTINUE TO BE INVOLVED, WHERE THE RUBBER MEETS THE RIDE ON US BEING ABLE TO HAVE AN IMPACT MORE SO ON THE DEVELOPMENT IN OUR COUNTY AND AGAIN I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT THE PROJECT SPECIFICALLY TO YOU BUT IN GENERAL,WE HAVE NO ZONING AUTHORITY. WE AS A COUNTSY NO COUNTY IN TEXAS HAS ZONING AUTHORITY.

EVERY SESSION IT IS A FIGHT IN AUSTIN, TEXAS, I'VE GONE UP THERE 3 SESSIONS IN A ROW AND FOUGHT ON BEHALF OF COUNTIES FOR ZONING AUTHORITY FOR US TO BE ABLE TO HAVE AN IMPACT ON THESE ISSUES THERE A WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TODAY. COMMISSIONER INGALSBE SERVED ON A STATE BOARD FOR THAT ORGANIZATION WHENEVER IT WAS -- WHEN IT WAS A PRIORITY. WHAT I WILL TELL YOU WE'LL BE UP THERE AS A MEMBER OF THE RESOLUTIONS COMMITTEE FOR OUR SOUTH TEXAS COUNTY COMMISSION AND COMMISSIONERS GROUP. I PUT FORTH WE MAINTAIN OR THAT WE GO AFTER ADDITIONAL ZONING AUTHORITY SPECIFICALLY FOR WATER THROUGH RESOLUTIONS COMMITTEE THIS YEAR AND I'M HOPING THAT IN OUR STATEWIDE CONVENTION IN OCTOBER WE CAN PUSH THAT TO BE A PRIORITY STATEWIDE FOR COUNTIES TO HAVE THE AUTHORITY. WE'RE GOING TO FIGHT COME JANUARY IN THE STATEHOUSE TO TRY TO HAVE MORE IMPACT ON THE ISSUES THAT YOU ARE ASKING US TODAY BUT AS OF TODAY WE DON'T HAVE THAT KIND OF AUTHORITY. THE DIRECT AUTHORITY THAT A CITY DOES. SO.

>> JUDGE BECERRA: THANK YOU. >> JUDGE, WHAT I --

>> [INDISCERNIBLE] >> JUDGE BECERRA: I'M SITTING HERE TRYING TO CLOSE THIS PUBLIC HEARING. BUT WE'RE JUST -- [INDISCERNIBLE]

>> JUDGE BECERRA: IF YOU WILL I'LL GIVE YOU THAT MOVEMENT BUT I WANT TO HEAR WHAT THE COMMISSIONER HAS TO SAY. I'VE SEEN YOU. GO AHEAD. LET ME RUN THE

COURT. GO AHEAD. >> YOU'VE BEEN DOING A GOOD

JOB OF THAT. >> THAT IS DEBATABLE.

>> WHAT I WOULD ASK US TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING, I

WOULD LIKE TO DO THAT -- >>

>> JUDGE BECERRA: OKAY. I'M SURPRISED THAT YOU JAB, YOU ARE USUALLY GOOD AT IT. I WOULD NOW ALLOW YOU THAT SPACE FOR YOU TO HAVE YOUR COMMENTS HEARD. DON'T WORRY. THIS IS PUBLIC HEARING COMMENTS.

>> I'VE HAD AN INTERESTING, THE COMMISSIONER SMITH IS, WILL AFFORD HIMSELF THE SAME OPPORTUNITY THAT HE DOESN'T AFFORD US. I HEARD HIM SAY WE SHOULDN'T HEAR THOSE WHO ARE, HAVE SPOKEN PREVIOUSLY. THAT WOULD BE ME. I GET REALLY CONCERNED WHEN I HEAR SOMEONE SAY, WELL, WE'RE HERE TO HELP YOU, WE'RE FROM THE GOVERNMENT BUT WE'RE HERE TO HELP YOU. I BECAME CONCERNED AS I'M SURED EVERYONE ELSE DOES -- WHAT I HEAR AT FIRST BLUSH -- [INDISCERNIBLE] IS THAT THIS IS A DONE DEAL. YOU WILL BE GLAD TO MEET WITH US BUT IT'S OVER W. THE PROPERTY IS GOING TO BE USED AS WE HAVE OUTLINED. THEREFORE, THIS ENTIRE MORNING, I COULD HAVE BEEN IN MY SHOP. MAYBE I SHOULD HAVE BEEN IN MY SHOP. BECAUSE I GOT THE OVERALL FEELING RIGHT NOW THIS HAS BEEN A DONE DEAL. THANK YOU

FOR THE TIME. >> JUDGE BECERRA: THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER, DO YOU HAVE ANY PARTING THOUGHTS?

>> I WOULD ASK WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARINGS THEN OPEN THE K. 2 WHICH IS THE DISCUSSION ON THE NORTH PID AND ALLOW SOME OF OUR PROFESSIONALS TO EXPLAIN THE PROCESS WHILE WE EVERYBODY HERE.

>> JUDGE BECERRA: IF THERE'S NO OTHER COMMENTS ON THE PUBLIC HEARING, MY PARTING THOUGHTS ON THAT ARE WORSE THAN NOT ACTING IS KNOWING AND ACTING IN A A WAY THAT IS NOT CONSISTENT WITH WHAT THE COMMUNITY WANTS.

WE CAN TALK YOUR EARS OFF TO DEATH AS YOU'VE SEEN TODAY. WE CAN TALK AND TALK AND BE SO WINDED TILL YOU ARE DIZZY BUT THE FACTS ARE THE FACTS.

WHETHER PEOPLE TELL YOU IT'S' LEX SEASON OR NOT THE FAX ARE THE FAX. JUST KEEP WATCHING, PAY ATTENTION, I

[K2. Discussion and possible action to adopt a Resolution of Hays County, Texas authorizing and creating the La Cima North Public Improvement District in accordance with Chapter 372 of the Texas Local Government Code; providing for related matters; and providing an effective date. SHELL]

WILL' CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

WILL YOU PLEASE OPEN K. 2. >> K. 2, DISCUSSION AND

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POSSIBLE ACTION TO ADOPT A RESOLUTION OF HAYS COUNTY, TEXAS, AUTHORIZING AND CREATING THE LA CIMA NORTH PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT IN ACCORDANCE WITH CHAPTER 372 OF THE TEXAS LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE; PROVIDING FOR RELATED MATTERS AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

>> JUDGE BECERRA: -- >> SO MOVED.

>> SECOND. >> JUDGE BECERRA: I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. COMMISSIONER SHELL, THIS

IS YOUR ITEM. >> I WAS GOING TO ASK IF WE COULD HAVE COUNSEL COME AND GO OVER THE PROCESS OF THE PID, WHERE WE'RE NOW, TIMELINES AND ETC.

>> SURE. IT'S STILL GOOD MORNING, I'M JULIE HOUSTON, I AM OUR YOUR BOND COUNSEL WITH THE LAW FIRM 6OREG.

THIS SECOND ITEM IS JUST FOR CREATION OF LA CIMA NORTH.

THERE ARE SEVERAL ITEMS ON THE AGENDA BUT THIS ONE IS JUST FOR THE NORTH. SO THIS PROCESS WAGS STARTED ON -- WAS STARTED ON AUGUST 9TH WHEN THE COURT CONSIDERED THE PETITION AND CALLED THE HEARING FOR TODAY AND NOTICE WAS MAILED TO THE LAND OWNERS AND NOTICE WAS PUT IN THE PAPER AS REQUIRED UNDER THE STATUTE.

THOSE WERE THE LEGAL REQUIREMENTS.

SO YOU'VE OPENED THE PUBLIC HEARING, CLOSED PUBLIC HEARING AND YOU CAN NOW CONSIDERED RESOLUTION CREATING IT. YOU CAN TABLE IT. YOU CAN CREATE IT. IF YOU DECIDE NOT TO CREATE TODAY, YOU ARE CERTAINLY ALLOWED TO CREATE IT LATER AS LONG AS IT'S CREATED WITHIN 6 MONTHS OF CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING.

>> COURT HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR MS. HOUSTON.

>> IT SEEMS PRETTY CLEAR OPINION WE'VE HAD OUR HEARINGS, THE COURT CAN CHOOSE TO ACT, NOT ACT, TABLE THIS MOTION OR -- I'M SENSING HESITATION FROM THE COURTMENT I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM REACHING OUT TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD, ERIC MENTIONED HE WILL MEET WITH THEM AND

WE COULD REPOST THE -- >> JUDGE BECERRA:

[INDISCERNIBLE] >> ARE THERE ONES TO ACT ON NOW THAT AREN'T IMPACTED BY THE CREATION OF THE NORTH?

>> CORRECT. THERE IS THE SOUTH. I CAN EXPLAIN THAT ONE WHEN THAT MAT SER OPENED.

>> OKAY. WE'LL REPOST NEXT COURT MEETING FOR K. 2.

>> JUDGE BECERRA: I'LL CONSIDER FOR SIMPLEIFICATION CONVERSATIONAL PURPOSES K. 2 TO BE TABLED FOR THE VIEWING

[K4. Discussion and possible action to adopt a Resolution of Hays County, Texas authorizing and creating the La Cima South Public Improvement District in accordance with Chapter 372 of the Texas Local Government Code; providing for related matters; and providing an effective date. SHELL]

PUBLIC. >> YES.

>> JUDGE BECERRA: OKAY. PLEASE OPEN K. 4.

>> K. 4, DISCUSSION AND IMPORTANTLY ACTION TO ADOPT A RES LUG OF HAYS COUNTY TEXAS, AUTHORIZING AND CREATING THE LA CIMA SOUTH PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT IN ACCORDANCE WITH CHAPTER 372 OF THE TEXAS LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE; PROVIDING FOR RELATED MATTERS; AND

PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE. >> SO MOVED.

>> SECOND. >> JUDGE BECERRA: WE HAVE ONE PERSON SIGNED UP TO SPEAK. IF BLANCO MOSES IS HERE. OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

COMMISSIONER SHELL. >> ONCE AGAIN THIS PROCESS, FIRST OF ALL LET ME EXPLAIN. LA CIMA SOUTH PETITION IS WITHIN THE ORIGINAL LA CIMA THAT WAS CREATED BACK IN 13.

LA CIMA SOUTH WOULD COVER ONLY PARCEL 7 W. WHICH IS IN THE CURRENT LA CIMA. PARTIAL 7 W. IS THAT UNIQUE PIECE OF A LITTLE OVER 300 ACRES THAT IS ON THE OTHER SIDE OF PURGATORY CREEK, HAS CURRENTLY NOW CONSERVATION LAND AROUND THE MAJORITY OF ITS BORDERS AND SO THE PETITION WAS REQUESTING THAT ESSENTIALLY A, AN IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT BE CREATED WITHIN AN IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT TO HANDLE SOME OF THE UNIQUE COSTS THAT HAVE COME UP WITH RESPECT TO THAT PARCEL DUE TO ITS LOCATION. IT'LL NEED A BRIDGE. IT, YOU KNOW IT'S AROUND THE CONSERVATION LAND SO THERE WERE COSTS THAT WEREN'T CONSIDERED OR KNOWN AT THE TIME WHEN THE ORIGINAL PID WAS CREATED. SO THE PETITION FOR LA CIMA SOUTH IS ACTUALLY WITHIN THE ORIGINAL LA CIMA. IT WASN'T PART OF WHAT WAS ADDED TO THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT

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WITH THE 7TH AMENDMENT JUST TO BE CLEAR. AND SO THAT IS THE 4TH MOTION THAT'S BEFORE YOU. THAT WOULD CREATE THAT PID WITHIN THE PID FOR THAT SPECIAL PARCEL 7 W. THAT IS THE PIECE OF LAND THAT IS ON THE OTHER SIDE OF PURGATORY CREEK TO HELP PAY FOR SOME OF THE COSTS THAT IT'LL TAKE TO DEVELOP THAT DUE TO ITS

UNIQUE POSITION. >> JUDGE BECERRA: THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER SHELL IS THIS ITEM K. 4 --

>> I'M READY TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS.

>> JUDGE BECERRA: SO WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ANY

OTHER COMMENTS? >> IS THIS ALSO THE ONE WE SPOKE ABOUT THAT WE ARE PEA NOT GOING TO A-- THAT WE'RE

NOT GOING TO ASSESS TWICE -- >> CORRECT.

>> THEY CLEARED THAT UP. >> CORRECT.

>> GO AHEAD. >> IF YOU LOOK THERE'S AN AGENDA ITEM FOR THE SECOND AMENDMENT TO THE FINANCING AGREEMENT FOR LA CIMA, AND THAT IS THE AGREEMENT WHERE THE COUNTY AND THE DEVELOPER AGREE THAT THERE WON'T BE ANY FURTHER ASSESSMENTS OR BOND I ISSUE ANS FOR IMPROVEMENTS THROUGH 7 W. THROUGH THE ORIGINAL LA CIMA, HOWEVER THE RIGHT FOR MAINTENANCE ASSESSMENTS IS STILL RETAINED, EVEN, -- IT'S CAPITOL TYPE IMPROVEMENTS. THERE MIGHT COME A POINT WHEN THE COUNTY WOULD LIKE TO LEVY A MAINTENANCE ASSESSMENT FOR MAINTAINING POTENTIALLY TRAILS IN THE PARKS OR IN THE CONSERVATION PIECE IS IN LA CIMA, AND THAT WAS STRATEGICALLY PLACED WITHIN THE PID WHEN IT WAS CREATED.

THAT DECISION WAS MADE BY THE COURT AT THAT TIME TO KEEP THAT 700 ACRES OF CONSERVATION LAND IN LA CIMA IN THE EVENT THAT THE COUNTY WOULD EVER WANT TO LEVY A MAINTENANCE SIS CESSMENT TO KEEP UP THE TRAILS OR ANY IMPROMISE PLAYED TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC FOR THAT

PIECE OF LAND. >> I KNOW I KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT BUT I'M GOING TO ASK ONE MORE TIME.

SO THIS PARCEL, 7 W., HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE PARCEL THAT IS ADJACENT TO COUNTRY ESTATES?

>> CORRECTS. >> THANK YOU.

>> I WANT TO CLARIFY, TOO, THIS IS SPECIFICALLY IN THE CURRENT ONE THAT, IN THE CURRENT LA CIMA AND IT HAS NO -- THERE IS NO EXPANSION OF THE CURRENT FOOTPRINT

WITH THIS PID. >> CORRECT.

>> THANKS, I WANTED TO REITERATE THAT.

>> JUDGE BECERRA: PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

[K5. Discussion and possible action to adopt a Resolution approving a second amendment to La Cima Public Improvement District financing agreement; authorizing the execution and delivery of such amendment; and approving any additional actions necessary in connection therewith. SHELL]

OPEN 5. >> K. 5 DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLES ACTION TO ADOPT A RESOLUTION APPROVING A SECOND AMENDMENT TO LA CIMA PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT FINANCING AGREEMENT AUTHORIZING THE EXECUTION AND DELIVERY OF SUCH AMENDMENT AND APPROVING ANY ADDITIONAL ACTIONS NECESSARY IN CONNECTION THEREBY.

>> SO MOVED. >> SECOND.

>> SO ONE OF THE DISCUSSIONS THAT WE PREVIOUSLY HAD IN COURT, AND CONSIDERATION IN CREATING THIS PID WITHIN THE PID WAS TO INSURE THAT THERE WASN'T BE ANY -- WON'T BE ANY DUPLICATION OF ASSESSMENT LEVIES THROUGH A PID WITHIN A PID. SO THAT IS WHAT THAT SECOND AMENDMENT TO THE FINANCING AGREEMENT FOR THE ORIGINAL LA CIMA DOES. IT'S THE COUNTY AND THE DEVELOPER AGREEING THAT NO MORE DEVELOPMENT SPECIFIC TO 7 W. WOULD BE FINANCED THROUGH THE ORIGINAL LA SEEM, A PID -- LA CIMA PID. THE FINANCING AGREEMENT IS THE AGREEMENT THAT CONTROLS THE BUSINESS DECISION AND AGREEMENTS BETWEEN THE COUNTY AND THE DEVELOPER AS OPPOSED TO THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WHICH DEFINITELY GOVERNS THE STANDARDS OF DEVELOPMENT, YOU KNOW, HOW IT WILL BE ANNEXED THIS THING BUT THE FINANCING AGREEMENT IS THE AGREEMENT THAT IS BETWEEN THE COUNTY AND THE DEVELOPER WITH RESPECT TO THE BUSINESS

TERMS BETWEEN THE TWO. >> JUDGE BECERRA:

COMMISSIONER INGALSBE. >> I THINK I UNDERSTAND THAT, JUDGE, AND THANK OU FOR THE EXPLANATION.

>> JUDGE BECERRA: JIGS -- COMMISSIONER SMITH? OKAY.

PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

[K6. Discussion and possible action to adopt a Resolution determining the costs of certain public improvements to be financed by the La Cima Public Improvement District; approving a preliminary 2022 Amended and Restated Service and Assessment Plan for the district, including a proposed updated major improvement area assessment roll, neighborhood improvement area #1 assessment roll and neighborhood improvement area #2 assessment roll and a proposed neighborhood improvement area #3 assessment roll; directing the filing of the proposed assessment rolls with the County Clerk to make available for public inspection; noticing a public hearing for September 13, 2022 to consider an order levying assessments on property located with neighborhood improvement area #3 of the La Cima Public Improvement District; directing county staff to publish and mail notice of said public hearing; and resolving other matters incident and related thereto; and providing an effective date. SHELL]

>> JUDGE BECERRA: NO. PLEASE OPEN K. 6.

>> K. 6, DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO ADOPT A RESOLUTION DETERMINING THE COSTS OF CERTAIN PUBLIC IMPROVEMENTS TO BE FINANCED BY THE LA CIMA PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT, APPROVING A PRELIMINARY 2022 AMENDED AND RESTATED SERVICE AND ASSESSMENT PLAN FOR THE

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DISTRICT, INCLUDING A PROPOSED UPDATED MAJOR IMPROVEMENT AREA ASSESSMENT ROLL, NEIGHBORHOOD IMPROVEMENT AREA NUMBER 1 ASSESSMENT ROLE AND NEIGHBORHOOD IMPROVEMENT AREA NUMBER 2 ASSESS.

ROLL AND A PROPOSED NEIGHBORHOOD IMPROVEMENT AREA 3 ASSESSMENT ROLL; DIRECTING THE FILING OF THE PROPOSED ASSESSMENT ROLLS WITH COUNTY CLERK TO MAKE AVAILABLE FOR PUBLIC INSPECTION, NOTICING A PUBLIC HEARING FOR SEPTEMBER 13, 2022, TO CONSIDER AN ORDER LEVYING ASSESSMENTS ON PROPERTY LOCATED WITH NEIGHBORHOOD IMPROVEMENT AREA NUMBER 3 OF THE LA CIMA PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT DIRECTING COUNTY STAFF TO PUBLISH AND MAIL NOTICE OF SAID PUBLIC HEARING AND RESOLVING OTHER MATTERS INCIDENT AND RECEIPTED THEREBY AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

>> SO MOVED. >> SECOND.

>> JUDGE BECERRA: SO COMMISSIONER, I ASK WE CAN DOUBLE DOWN ON THE NOTIFICATION TIME SO WE COULD HELP FOLKS HAVE PLENTY OF TIME TO SEE THEIR MAIL.

>> I THINK WE'RE GOING TO FOLLOW OUR RULES AND STATUTES THAT DICTATE THIS. I THINK THAT'S THE BEST WAY TO PROCEED WITH EVERYTHING INSTEAD OF --

>> JUDGE BECERRA: INSTEAD OF EXTRA NOTICE.

>> COULD YOU DEFINE WHAT YOU MEAN BY EXTRA NOTICE?

>> JUDGE BECERRA: AN EXTRA WEEK FOR NOTIFICATIONS? YOU COULD FOLLOW THE RULES OR GIVE ONE AN EXTRA WEEK, THAT

IS FINE. >> I DO BELIEVE WE SHOULD BE CONSISTENT WITH OUR RULES AND --

>> JUDGE BECERRA: YES. >> ALL PROCEEDINGS.

>> JUDGE BECERRA: SURE. >> WE VARIED FROM THAT TODAY. THAT'S MY CONCERN.

>> JUDGE BECERRA: OKAY. >> WHAT YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU TODAY IS A RESOLUTION THAT DOES A COUPLE OF THINGS. IS YOU HAVE ALREADY LEVIED ASSESSMENTS THE MAJOR IMPROVEMENTS ASSESSMENTS FOR MASTER INFROM STRUCTURE BACK IN 2015, YOU'VE ALSO LEVIED ASSESSMENTS IN IMPROVEMENT AREA ONE AND TWO AND THOSE SECURE THE IMPROVEMENT AREA 1, 2 BONDS ISSUED BACK IN 2020. SO EVERY YEAR UNDER THE STATUTE THE COUNTY IS REQUIRED TO UPDATE THE PLAN SO THAT IS THE FIRST THING THAT IS BEING DISCUSSED HERE IS YOUR SER VISION AND ASSESSMENT PLAN HAS BEEN AMENDED AND RESTATED TO INCLUDE UPDATED ROLES FOR 2022, 2023 WHICH WILL BE GIVEN TO THE TAX ASSESSMENT COLLECTOR AND WILL BE PUT ON THE TAX STATEMENTS FOR THE CURRENT LAND OWNERS WITHIN THE ORIGINAL LA CIMA. SO PART OF IT IS ANNUAL HOUSEKEEPING AND MAKING SURE THAT THOSE RULES GET UPDATED AND GET UPDATED IN A TIMELY MANNER SO THEY CAN GET TO THE TAX ASSESSOR COLLECTOR.

NOW THE SECOND AND WHY A PUBLIC HEARING IS NEEDED TO BE CALLED IS BECAUSE THE DEVELOPERS IN THE ORIGINAL LA CIMA ARE, HAVE REQUESTED AND HAVE STARTED CONSTRUCTION OF THE IMPROVEMENTS FOR IMPROVEMENT AREA 3 OF THE DISTRICT. SO THIS WOULD BE A NEW ASSESSMENT LEVY ON THE LAND OWNERS IN IMPROVEMENT AREA 3. RIGHT NOW, THE LAND OWNERS ARE 3 ENTITIES, AND I CAN HAVE ERIC SPEAK TO THAT. 3 ENTITIES THAT HAVE BEEN CREATED BY THE DEVELOPER. THEY'RE THE LAND HOLDER DEVELOPMENT ENTITIES FOR THE PHASES 3, 4, AND 5 WHICH COMPRISE IMPROVEMENT AREA 3. SO IN ORDER FOR THAT ASSESS.

TO BE LEVIED, UNDER THE LAW, CHAPTER 372 OF THE GOVERNMENT CODE, COURT WOULD NEED TO CALL A PUBLIC HEARING AND PUBLISH NOTICE IN THE NEWSPAPER AND ALSO SEND A NOTICE TO THE CURRENT LAND OWNERS THAT WOULD BE ASSESSED IN IMPROVEMENT AREA 3. SO THAT IS THE SECOND THING THAT IS BEING CONSIDERED IN THE RESOLUTION

BEFORE YOU. >> JUDGE, ALL OF THESE IMPROVEMENT AREAS ARE IN EXISTING LA CIMA? THE EXISTING LA CIMA PID SOUTH OF RANCH ROAD 12. IF YOU WOULD LIKE FOR THE DEVELOPER REPRESENTATIVE HE COULD EXPLAIN WHERE THE AREAS ARE GEE GRAPHICALLY. THE NEW AREA, FOR INSTANCE. IT'S A NEIGHBORHOOD AREA WITHIN THE

PID BOUNDARY. >> YES, ERIC WILLIS, LA CIMA REPRESENTATIVE. SO N. I. A. 3 REPRESENTS PHASE 3, PHASE 4 AND PHASE 5 OF LA CIMA. OUR MASTER PID COVERS ALL OF THE ORIGINAL LA CIMA, N. I. A. 1 COVERED PHASE ONE AND PHASE 1-2 OF LA CIMA AND N. I. A., NEIGHBORHOOD IMPROVEMENT AREA 2 COVERED FACE 2 SECTION A. PHASE 2 SECTION B. THEN WITHIN A

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NEIGHBORHOOD IMPROVEMENT AREA 3 WE'RE PICKING UP PHASE 3 SECTION A., PHASE 3. (CAPTIONS WILL RESUME

SHORTLY.) >> AS COMMISSIONER SAID ALL OF THOSE ARE HOME SITES THAT ARE UNDER CONSTRUCTION RIGHT NOW. THEIR GENERAL LOCATION WHEN YOU COME INTO LA CIMA, YOU, YOU ARE ON CENTER POINT ROAD. YOU GET TO CENTRAL PARK LOOP. PHASE 3 IS TO THE WEST OF THE MINI KENTER. PHASE 4 AND 5 ARE TO THE EAST OF THE CENTER POINT ROAD IN THE GENERAL AREA.

>> ANY QUESTIONS? >> I HAVE ONE. IF THAT'S OKAY. YEAH, I WANT TO CLARIFY AGAIN. THESE, THIS SPECIFIC AGENDA ITEM IS ONE THAT WE VOTE ON ANNUALLY SPECIFICALLY TO GIVE THE JENNIFER ALL ASSESSMENTS TO THE CAD. SO IT CAPTURES -- JENNIFER ALL ASSESSMENTS TO THE -- OVERALL ASSESSMENTS TO THE CAD.

>> AS WE CONTINUE TO DEVELOP AS WE CONTINUE TO SUBDIVIDE SO LIKE YOU SAID CAD WILL GET THE CENTRAL DISTRICT WILL GET THE INFORMATION VIA THIS SERVICE ASSESSMENT

PLAN. >> WHY THAT IS IMPORTANT IS BECAUSE WHENEVER YOU HAVE THOSE EXPANSIONS ON AN ANNUALIZED BASIS, THAT IS WHAT SOMETHINGIFIES WHERE THE FUNDING AND FINANCING FOR THE OPERATIONS ARE GOING TO COME FROM. AND SPECIFICALLY IF WE DON'T PASS THIS THERE'S THE OPPORTUNITY THAT WE WOULD SPECIFICALLY NOT BE HAVING THOSE NEW RESIDENTS PAY FOR THE IMPROVEMENTS OF WHICH THEY'RE TAKING ADVANTAGE?

IS THAT FAIR? >> YES, THEY WON'T SEE WHERE IMPROVEMENTS ARE THAT OCCURRED AND THEY WON'T GET THE ASSESSMENT ALLOCATED TO THEIR INDIVIDUAL LOTS.

>> CORRECT. THANK YOU. >> IN ADDITION TO THAT, IS THE NEIGHBORHOOD IMPROVEMENT NUMBER 3 WHICH IS THE NEW SECTION THAT WILL BE STARTED, THAT IS WHAT INVOLVES THE PUBLIC HEARING ON SEPTEMBER 13TH TO LEVY THOSE ASEGMENTS -- ASSESSMENTS ON CURRENT

PROPERTY? >> CORRECT.

THERE IS CURRENT NO RESIDENTS IN PHASE 3, 4 AND 5, THESE ARE ALL LOTS UNDER CONSTRUCTION THAT WILL BE COMPLETED IN THE NEXT VARIOUS, 30, 60 PLUS DAYS.

>> JUDGE BECERRA: COMMISSIONERS.

>> THANK YOU. >> CURRENT LA CIMA

DEVELOPMENT -- >> JUDGE BECERRA: NOTHING ELSE? CALL THE ROLL.

>> JUDGE BECERRA: YES. WE'LL TAKE A TEN MINUTE

RECESS. >> JUDGE BECERRA: WE'RE BACK

[G7. Authorize the County Judge to execute an annual Remote Monitoring Services Agreement for an in-building cell signal booster with HCI for the Sheriff's Office Training Academy building. INGALSBE/CUTLER]

FROM A SHORT RECERTIFICATION PLEASE OPEN AGENDA ITEM G-7.

>> G-7. AUTHORIZE THE COUNTY JUDGE TO EXECUTE AN ANNUAL REMOTE MONITORING SERVICES AGREEMENT FOR AN IN BUILDING CELL SIGNAL BOOSTER WITH H. C. I. FOR THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE TRAINING ACADEMY BUILDING.

>> SO MOVED. >> SECOND.

>> JUDGE BECERRA: WE HAVE A MOTION, SECOND.

COMMISSIONER INGALSBE, ANY COMMENTS? WE'VE SOMEONE FROM THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE IN CASE YOU WANT --

>> OKAY. I MEAN IF IT'S THEIR, THEY'RE WILLING TO

SPEAK. >> JUDGE BECERRA: HE SAID, NO. [LAUGHTER]

>> SMARTEST ONE IN THE ROOM. >> JUDGE BECERRA: SELF-EXPLANATORY, I DIDN'T KNOW IF YOU HAD ANY CONTRIBUTIONS, PLEASE CALL THE ROLE.

[G8. Authorize the County Judge to execute a first amendment to the Professional Services Agreement (PSA) between Hays County and Blair Wildlife Consulting, LLC for Environmental Support Services for the Hays County Regional Habitat Conservation Plan (RHCP) and other Hays County Projects and authorize a discretionary exemption pursuant to Texas Local Government Code Ch. 262.024(A)(4). SHELL/T.CRUMLEY]

PLEASE OPEN G-8. >> G-8, AUTHORIZE THE COUNTY JUDGE TO EXECUTE A FIRST AMENDMENT TO THE PROFESSIONAL SERVICES AGREEMENT BETWEEN HAYS COUNTY AND BLAIR WILD LIVE CONSULTING FOR ENVIRONMENTAL SUPPORT SERVICES FOR THE HAYS COUNTY REGIONAL HABITAT CONSERVATION PLAN AND OTHER HAYS COUNTY PROJECTS AND AUTHORIZE A DISCRETIONARY EXEDGES PUSH SUPERINTENDENT TO TEXAS LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE CHAPTER 262.024 A. H.

>> SO MOVED. >> SECOND.

>> JUDGE BECERRA: MR. DAN LYON, YOU'VE 3 MINUTES.

>> THANK YOU, JUDGE BECERRA. I LOOKED INTO THE BACKUP AND I'M SORRY I DIDN'T GET A COPY OF IT ALL. APPARENTLY WE'RE LOOKING AT ABOUT 8,000 BUCKS, MAYBE I'M WRONG ON THAT. Y'ALL CAN CORRECT ME BUT I WAS ABLE TO GET THE HOURLY RATES OF HOW MUCH THESE PEOPLE CHARGE AND AFTER LAST WEEK WITH H.N.T.B.THESE ARE GOING TO SEEM LIKE A MERE PITTANCE BUT PRINCIPLE GETS

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$150 TO $175 AN HOUR. SENIOR PROJECT MANAGER 150-160 PER HOUR. SENIOR BIOLOGIST 120-135 AN HOUR.

BIOLOGIST ENVIRONMENTAL SCIENTIST 1, 80-85 AN HOUR.

BILIST ENVIRONMENTAL SCIENTIST 2, 90 TO 100 AN HOUR. ENVIRONMENTAL TECHNICIAN $65 MANUFACTURE 75 PER HOUR. G. I. S. SPECIALIST $75-125 PER HOUR.

DEPOSITIONS AND TESTIMONY. $325 PER HOUR.

EXPERT WITNESS/RESEARCH, $250 PER HOUR.

ADMINISTRATIVE PROFESSIONAL $50-75 PER HOUR. I DON'T KNOW WHERE, YOU KNOW Y'ALL COME FROM BUT WHERE I COME FROM, THIS IS STILL EXTREMELY EXPENSIVE.

I'VE, I WOULD HOPE THAT THERE WOULD BE MORE COMPETITION HERE TO PERFORM WHATEVER IT IS THEY DO. AND WE COULD GET PEOPLE THAT WERE A LITTLE LESS EXPENSIVE THAN THESE PEOPLE HERE. I THINK MY TOP WAGE WHEN I RETIRED IN ABOUT 2003, 2004 I WAS MAKING COLLAR 14.59 AN -- DOLLAR 15 -- 14.59 AN HOUR, IT WAS QUALITY CONTROL CHEMIST. IF I DIDN'T DO MY JOB THINGS SUFFERED BELIEVE ME, SO I DID MY JOB, BUT THIS IS RIDICULOUS, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> JUDGE BECERRA: THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER SHELL.

>> NOTHING FURTHER, JUDGE. >> JUDGE BECERRA: THE ENVIRONMENTAL SUPPORT SERVICES, WHAT ARE ARE THEY, CAN YOU JUST EXPAND ON WHAT THEY'RE DOING?

>> THERE'S ALL SORTS OF TASKS THE PROFESSIONALS CAN DO. WHEN YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT BIOLOGISTS THEY'RE ACTUALLY PROFESSIONAL BIOLOGISTS. THESE RATES AREN'T NECESSARILY WHAT THE PERSON MAKES IN EMPLOYMENT.

OBVIOUSLY WE'RE PAYING A FIRM THAT IS PAYING THESE PEOPLE AND WE'RE PAYING A MARKUP ON HOURLY RATES AND OTHER THINGS LIKE, THAT IS STANDARD WITH ANY

PROFESSIONAL SERVICE. >> I WOULD SAY AS FAR AS OVERALL USE AVERAGE THE CONTRACT IN THE PAST WHAT WE'VE USED THEM MORE, IF YOU LOOK AT THE BACKGROUND MATERIAL, IT OUTLINES IT VERY CLEARLY. ESPECIALLY WHENEVER WE'RE LOOKING AT GOLDEN CHEEK WARBLER HABITAT AND THE TIME PERIOD AND THE WORK BETWEEN BETWEEN MARCH 1TH AND JUNE, HABITAT REVIEW, THAT'S WHO HAS DONE THIS FOR US AND IN THE PAST THEY ASSISTED US IN THE SUBMISSIONINGS WE'VE DONE RELATIVE TO WHAT COULD OR COULDN'T BEVOLVED IN OUR HABITAT CONSERVATION

PROGRAM. >> JUDGE BECERRA: PLEASE3 CALL THE ROLL.

[G9. Amend the Veteran's Administration operating budget for additional continuing education funds related to the National Association of County Veterans Services Officers (NACVSO) 2022 annual conference. INGALSBE/PRATHER]

>> JUDGE BECERRA: YES, PLEASE OPEN G. 9.

>> G. 9, AMEND THE VETERAN'S ADMINISTRATION OPERATING BUDGET FOR ADDITIONAL RELATED TO THE NATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF COUNTY VETERANS SERVICES OFFICERS

2022 ANNUAL CONFERENCE. >> SO MOVED.

>> SECOND. >> JUDGE BECERRA: MR. -- [INDISCERNIBLE] WOULD YOU LIKE TO SHED SOME LIGHT ON YOUR AGENDA ITEM, IF YOU SAY LOOK IN BACKUP THAT'S NOT GOING TO HELP THE VIEWERS WATCHING.

>> JUDGE, COMMISSIONERS, THE, TO GIVE YOU AN OVERVIEW ON THIS, SO IN THE PAST WE'VE GOTTEN ACCREDITATION BUT THE TEXAS VETERANS COMMISSION, THERE IS A COST SHARING AGREEMENT. THEY DO PAY A PORTION OF THE TRAINING, IT'S LOCATED WITHIN TEXAS.

THIS YEAR WE SAW AN OPPORTUNITY TO GET A NATIONAL ACCREDITATION MEANING ANY VETERAN IN THE COUNTRY WE WOULD HAVE THE ABILITY TO WORK ON THEIR CLAIM. RIGHT NOW WE'RE LIMITED TO VETERANS THAT HAVE ASSIGNED VETERANS STATE AGENCY. THAT WOULD GIVE US GREATER ACCESS TO ALL VET REMARKS NORMALLY NEXT YEAR IT'S IN WISCONSIN. THIS YEAR WE'VE NOTICED IT WAS TEA -- IN TEXAS, WE THOUGHT WE WOULD TAKE ADVANTAGE OF IT SO HOWEVER WHAT WE NORMALY BUDGET FOR STATE CONFERENCE THERE WAS A PORTION OF IT NOT COVERED THROUGH THE STATE. THE BUDGET HAD A SHORT FALL TO COVER THE CONFERENCE AND THE REGISTRATION FEES.

>> JUDGE BECERRA: THANK YOU FOR HELPING THE VIEWING PUBLIC SEE WHAT THAT IS ABOUT. VERY AWESOME, WELL DONE. QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS?

>> THANK YOU. >> JUDGE BECERRA: PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

[G10. Authorize General Counsel to execute an Engagement Letter with the Law Office of Stephen C. Dickman for legal services associated with revisions to development regulations, Takings Impact Assessments, and related work; authorizing a discretionary exemption pursuant to Texas Local Government Code Chapter. 262.024 (a) (4). SHELL]

>> JUDGE BECERRA: YES. G. 10 PLEASE.

>> G. 10, AUTHORIZE GENERAL COUNSEL TO EXECUTE AN

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ENGAGEMENT LETTER WITH THE LAW OFFICE OF STEPHEN C.

DICKMAN FOR LEGAL SERVICES ASSOCIATED WITH REVISIONS TO DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS TAKINGS IMPACT ASSESSMENTS AND RELATED WORK, AUTHORIZING A DISCRETIONARY EXEMPTION PURSUANT TO TEXAS LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE

CHAPTER 262.024 A. 4. >> SO MOVED.

>> SECOND. >> JUDGE BECERRA: MR. DAN LYON, IF YOU'LL PLEASE APPROACH THE PODIUM.

>> THANK YOU, AGAIN, JUDGE BECERRA.

IN THE BACKUP, THERE WAS THIS LETTERRITY MR. MARK KENNEDY, GENERAL COUNSEL. HAYS COUNTY. FROM THE LAW OFFICE OF STEPHEN C. DICKMAN.

HOW APPROPRIATE. ANYWAY, UNDER PARAGRAPH FEES AND EXPENSES ON PAGE 2, MY FEES WILL BE BASED PRIMARILY ON MY TIME SPENT ON THE MATTER CHARGED AT MY BILLING RATE.

MY BILLING RATE FOR THIS REPRESENTATION WILL BE $300 PER HOUR. TRAVEL TIME IN WHICH NO WORK IS BEING DONE IS BUILD AT TRAVEL EXPENSE PLUS $50 AN HOUR. THAT'S FOR DOING NOTHING.

ANYWAY WORK DONE BY MY LEGAL ASSISTANT OR ASSISTANTS IS BUILD AT $75 AN HOUR. THESE BILLING RATES ARE SUBJECT TO CHANGE FROM TIME TO TIME BUT I WILL NOTIFY YOU AT LEAST 60 DAYS IN ADVANCE OF ANY CHANGES OF THESE RATES.

OTHER FACTORS THAT MAYBE TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION IN DETERMINING MY FEES INCLUDING THE RESPONSIBILITIES OF THE NOVELTY AND DIFFICULTY OF THE LEGAL PROBLEM INVOLVED PARTICULAR EXPERIENCE OR KNOWLEDGE PROVIDED. TIME LIMITATIONS IMPOSED BY YOU, THE BENEFIT RESULTING TO THE COUNTY AND ANY UNFORESEEN CIRCUMSTANCES ARISING IN THE COURSE OF MY REPRESENTATION.

I'M NOT A LAWYER BUT TO ME THAT MEANS THAT HE CAN CHARGE YOU MORE THAN $300 AN HOUR.

I MEAN P. T. BARNUM WAS WRONG, THERE IS MORE THAN ONE BORN EVERY MINUTE BUT ANYWAY LET'S GET ON TO CONFLICT YOU SHOULD BE AWARE THAT I MAY REPRESENT VARIOUS OTHER COMPANIES, CITY, DISTRICTS AND INDIVIDUALS.

IT'S POSSIBLE THAT DURING THE TIME THAT I'M PERFORMING LEGAL SERVICES FOR THE COUNTY SOME OF MY PRESENT OR FEET CLIENTS MIGHT HAVE DISPUTES OR TRANSACTIONS WITH THE COUNTY. YOU AGREE THAT I MAY CONTINUE TO REPRESENT OR MAY UNDERTAKE IN THE FUTURE TO REPRESENT EXISTING OR NEW CLIENTS IN ANY MANNER NOT SUBSTANTIALLY RELATED TO MY WORK FOR THE COUNTY. EVEN IF THE INTERESTS 6 SUCH OTHER CLIENTS ARE DIRECTLY ADVERSE, WE AGREE, HOWEVER, THAT YOUR PERSPECTIVE CONSENT CONFLICTING REPRESENTATION CONTAINED IN THE PROCEEDING SENTENCE SHALL NOT APPLY IN ANY INSTANCE WHEREAS AS A RESULT OF MY LEGAL SERVICES FOR THE COUNTY I HAVE OBTAINED CONFIDENCE INFORMATION OF NONPUBLIC NATURE THAT IF KNOWN TO SUCH OTHER CLIENT COULD BE USED IN ANY SUCH OTHER MANNER BY SUCH CLIENT TO THE COUNT'S MATERIAL DISADVANTAGE.

MAN, THAT IS MIGHTY NICE OF HIM. ISN'T THAT NICE? BIO. HE IS NOT GOING TO HELP HIS OTHER CLIENT GIVE HIM PRIVILEGED OR PROPPITEY INFORMATION ABOUT THE COUNTY, WOW, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> JUDGE. >> JUDGE BECERRA: YES.

>> I WOULD ASK THAT JUST FOR RULES OF DECORUM IF WE HAVE ANOTHER STATEMENT START OFF LIKE THAT, THAT THE INDIVIDUAL WOULD LOSE THEIR TIME.

>> JUDGE BECERRA: WE CAN DISCUSS THAT.

>> IT'S HIGHLY INAPPROPRIATE.

>> IT'S HIGHLY INAPPROPRIATE.

>> JUDGE, THIS AGREEMENT IS THE, IN THE COURSE OF DEVELOPMENT IN THE COUNTY ARE RULES, APPLICATIONS TO OUR RULES DO DIFFERENT TYPES OF DEVELOPMENT THAT WE'RE STARTING TO SEE, WE TALKED ABOUT AN UPDATE TO OUR RULES AND OVERALL UPDATE. THERE ARE ALSO AREAS THAT NEED MORE IMMEDIATE ATTENTION, WHEN WE DO THIS, WE HAVE TO HAVE SOMEONE THAT IS AN EXPERT TO MAKE SURE THAT ANY RULE THAT WE CHANGE SUBSTANTIALLY IS NOT A, CONSIDERED A TAKING OF ONE'S PRIVATE PROPERTY RIGHTS IN STATE OF TEXAS, NOT ONLY WILL THIS INDIVIDUAL HELP US WITH SOME RULE REVISIONS BUT ALSO WILL MAKE SURE THAT ANY RULES THAT WE ADOPT FOLLOW THE LAW.

>> JUDGE BECERRA: WHY DECISIONARY EXEDGES 1234 IS -- EXEMPTION, WHAT IS THE PURPOSE OF THAT.

>> IT'S NOT LIKELY THIS PARTICULAR ENGAGEMENT WILL EXCEED $50,000,000-- $5 ARE 50,000 -- $50,000, BUT FROM

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IS A TWO FACE PROCESS TO THIS. THERE IS BUT THEUP UP REGULATION THAT IS WE'D LIKE TO TAKE CARE OF AS A FIRST PHASE. BRINGING OUR RULES, OUR LOCAL RULES WITHIN COMPLIANCE OF STATUTORY STANDARDS WHERE WHERE IT DEVIATES SLIGHTLY SO THAT IS A MINER AND PROBABLY WON'T TAKE MUCH TIME. THE SECOND PHASE IS A MORE COMPREHENSIVE REWRITE OF DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS WHICH PROBABLY WILL EXTEND INTO CALENDAR YEAR 2023.

THAT'S GOING TO TAKE SOME MORE TIME.

I STILL DON'T BELIEVE IT GETS TO THE POINT WHERE MR. DICKMAN IS GOING TO CHARGE ANYWHERE NEAR $50,000, BUT AS A MEASURE, AS A SAFETY MEASURE WE ARE EGOING TO INCLUDE THE EXEMPTION -- WE'RE GOING TO

INCLUDE THE EXEMPTION. >> ALSO INCLUDE HIS PREVIOUS WORK THAT HE DID FOR HAYS COUNTY? HE NOW --

>> THAT HAS BEEN QUITE SOMETIME. IN FACT THE LAST TIME WE ENGAGED HIM TO DONO WORK WE ENDED UP NOT USING HIM TO DO THE WORK BECAUSE WE PUT THE REWRITE ON THE

SHELF FOR THE TIME BEING. >> YOU THOUGHT IT WAS AN ADVANTAGE TO HAVE SOMEBODY --

>> YEAH, SO YOU'LL RECALL THAT HE WAS ENGAGED TO DO THIS WORK, THIS SAME KIND OF WORK BACK WHEN WE DID THE COMPREHENSIVE REWRITE IN THE 2009 I GUESS IT WAS WHEN WE FINALLY FINISHED. 08, 09. HE WAS ENGAGED AGAIN IN

2018. >> 2017.

>> BUT WE ENDED UP NOT USING HIM AT THAT POINT.

>> JUDGE BECERRA: COMMISSIONER?

>> NO. >> I'M GOOD. I WANT TO SAY THIS CAN'T COME SOON ENOUGH. I'VE TALKED TO MARCUS ABOUT THIS FOR QUITE SOMETIME AND MARCUS' PREED CESS TOURS AND WE'RE EXCITED TO ACTUALLY SIT DOWN AMEND GET STARTED.

I DON'T THINK -- I KNOW THAT I'VE IDENTIFIED A NUMBER OF REGULATIONS THAT, RULES AND REGULATIONS THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE THAT REALLY EITHER DON'T MAKE SENSE ANYMORE OR IN ACTUAL ENFORCEMENT AND THOSE KIND OF THINGS DON'T REALLY, THEY DON'T REALLY ADDRESS THE PROBLEMS THAT WE'RE TRYING TO ADDRESS WHEN THE RULES AND REGULATIONS WERE PUT IN PLACE.

AND STRENGTHENING SOME, CHANGING OTHERS, I'M EXCITED ABOUT IT. CAN'T HAPPEN FAST ENOUGH.

>> I AGREE, COMMISSIONER. MARCUS, PATCH EMO DIRECTOR OF HAYS COUNTY DEVELOPMENT SERVICES, THIS IS MUCH NEEDED AS A GROWING COUNTY, THE FASTEST GROWING COUNTY IN THE NATION, SEEING MANY DIFFERENT TYPES OF DEVELOPMENTS. NOT JUST THE STANDARD TYPE OF INVESTMENT.

SO MODIFYING OUR REGULATIONS TO CAPTURE MORE REGULATORY CONTROL, TO CAPTURE MORE OF THE DITCH TYPE OF

DEVELOPMENTS IS KEY. >> JUDGE BECERRA: OKAY.

PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

[Items G11 & G12]

>> JUDGE BECERRA: YES, PLEASE OPEN G. 11 AND 12.

>> G. 11, AMEND THE CONSTABLE PRECINCT 5 OPERATING BUDGET FOR ADDITIONAL AMMUNITION FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT FIREARM QUALIFICATIONS AND OFFICER SAFETY. G. 12, AMEND THE EXTENSION OFFICE OPERATING BUDGET FOR ADDITIONAL CONTINUING EDUCATION FUNDS NEEDED RELATED TO THE AGRI LIFE

EXTENSION STATE CONFERENCE. >> SO MOVED.

>> SECOND. >> JUDGE BECERRA: COMMISSIONER JONES, HOW MUCH IS THAT?

>> I BELIEVE IT'S $900 BUT LET ME CHECK TO BE SURE.

>> I BELIEVE IT'S $980. >> 910.

>> JUDGE BECERRA: PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

COMMISSIONERS, WE'LL GO TO ROADS; THAT GOOD FOR YOU OR DO YOU HAVE ANY PREFERENCE OR REQUESTS.

[INDISCERNIBLE] >> I KNOW THAT WE HAVE NUMBERS FOR THE -- SORRY, JUDGE.

[J1. PLN-1941-PC; Call for a Public Hearing on September 13th, 2022, followed by discussion and possible action regarding the Rainbow Ranch, Lot 18, Replat. SHELL/MACHACEK]

>> JUDGE BECERRA: THAT'S OKAY.

>> WHAT ARE YOU LOOKING FOR. >> JUDGE BECERRA: WHILE YOU

LOOK PLEASE DO J. 1. >> J. 1. P. L. N. 1941-P.

C. CALL FOR A PUBLIC HEARING ON SEPTEMBER 13, 2022, FOLLOWED BY DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION REGARDING

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THE RAINBOW RANCH LOT 18 REPLAT.

>> SO MOVED. >> SECOND.

>> JUDGE BECERRA: MOTION AND A SECOND PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

[K10. Discussion and possible action to appoint Wayne Thompson as the Hays County representative on the Board of Community Action Inc. of Central Texas. BECERRA]

>> JUDGE BECERRA: YES. PLEASE OPEN K. 10.

>> K. 10 DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO APPOINT WANE THOMPSON AS THE HAYS COUNTY REPRESENTATIVE AS THE BOARD OF COMMUNITY ACTION OF CENTRAL TEXAS.

>> SO MOVED. >> MY NAME IS CAROL, I AM ATE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF COMMUNITY ACTION INC. OF CENTRAL TAX AMEND SEVERAL MONTHS AGO I CAME BEFORE YOU AND ASKED YOU FOR A REPRESENTATIVE ON THE BOARD AND I IDENTIFIED WANE THOMPSON TO SERVE ON THE BOARD. HE HAS AGREED AS LONG AS YOU APPROVE HIS

APPOINTMENT. >> JUDGE BECERRA: BEAUTIFUL, THANK YOU, AND THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU DO IN YOUR

COMMUNITY GENUINELY. >> THANK YOU.

>> AND ON YOUR RETIREMENT. >> 15 DAYS LEFT.

[LAUGHTER] >> JUDGE BECERRA: OKAY.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR HELP ON THAT.

>> THANK YOU. >> JUDGE BECERRA: IF THERE'S NOTHING ELSE PLEASE CALL THE.

YOU VERY MUCH, HAPPY RETIREMENT.

>> THANK YOU, THANK YOU. >> JUDGE BECERRA: ANYTHING

[I1. Discussion and possible action to call for a public hearing on September 13, 2022 to establish a 4-way stop location on Windy Hill Road at the intersection with Shadow Creek Blvd and Crosswinds Parkway. JONES/INGALSBE/BORCHERDING]

ELSE THAT -- ROADS. >> I. 1.

>> >> I. 1 DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO CALL FOR A PUBLIC HEARING ON SEPTEMBER 13, 2022, TO ESTABLISH A 4 WAY STOP LOCATION ON WINDY HILL ROAD AT THE INTERSECTION WITH SHADOW CREEK BOULEVARD AND CROSS WIND PARKWAY.

>> SO MOVED. >> SECOND.

>> JUDGE BECERRA: PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

[I2. Discussion and possible action to call for a public hearing on September 13, 2022 to establish a 3-way stop location on Mathias Lane at the intersection with Foster Place. INGALSBE/BORCHERDING]

>> I. 2, DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO CALL FOR A PUBLIC HEARING ON SEPTEMBER 13, 2022, TO ESTABLISH A 3-WAY STOP LOCATION ON MATHIAS LANE AT THE INTERSECTION WITH FOSTER PLACE.

>> SO MOVED ITSELF. >> SECOND.

>> JUDGE BECERRA: PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

[I3. Discussion and possible action to authorize the County Judge to execute a Contract for Engineering Services between Hays County and CP&Y, Inc. for $2,500,000 related to a corridor study of the SH 45 Gap Project. SMITH/JONES/BORCHERDING]

>> I. 3. DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO AUTHORIZE THE COUNTY JUDGE TO EXECUTE A CONTRACT FOR ENGINEERING SERVICES BETWEEN HAYS COUNTY AND C. P. AND Y. INC. FOR $2,500,000 REMITTED TO A CORRIDOR STUDY OF THE S. H.

45 GAP PROJECT. >> SO MOVED.

>> SECOND. >> JUDGE BECERRA: MOTION AND A SECOND. COMMISSIONER JONES, HAVE YOU REACHED OUT TO TRAVIS COUNTY COMMISSIONERS?

>> YES. >> JUDGE BECERRA: WHO HAVE

YOU SPOKEN TO. >> COMMISSIONER HOWARD, AND

GOMEZ AND -- >> I ACTUAL VERY SPOKEN TO SUBMISSIONER GOMEZ AND COMMISSION COMMISSIONER HOWARD AS WELL. IF YOU REMEMBER THIS IS ACTUALLY THE CONTRACT, THE SELECTION FOR THIS WAS DONE A NUMBER OF MONTHS AGO ACTUALLY WHENEVER IT WAS STILL LOCATED IN COMMISSIONERS JOAN'S PRECINCT OF THE AFTER REDISTRICTS IT WAS' NOW IN MY PRECINCT. WE FINALLY GOT TO THE SCOPE OF WORK. BUT I WAS GLAD AT THAT POINT THAT THE COURT ITSELF VOTED UNANIMOUSLY FOR THAT. I WOULD LOVE AGAIN FOR THE SUPPORT TODAY.

>> JUDGE BECERRA: HOWARD GEMEZ --

>> TRABILION. >> CAN YOU SHARE A LITTLE

BIT OF THAT DISCUSSION? >> HE WAS JUST AN UPDATE TELLING WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO, WHAT WE'RE PLANNING.

WE TALKED A LOT ABOUT S. H. 45 AND THOSE CONDITIONS.

AND SO WE JUST GAVE THEM AN UPDATE ON WHERE WE WERE AND

WHAT OUR PLANS ARE. >> WHAT HE HAD OF FEEDBACK

DID YOU GET? >> I LET THEM -- I DON'T

WANT TO SPEAK FOR THEM. >> JUDGE BECERRA: WHAT WAS YOUR GENERAL ASSESSMENT OF THE CONVERSATION?

>> VERY POSITIVE. >> I WOULD SAY VERY POSITIVE AS WELL TO THE FACT THAT THE VAST MAJORITY I WOULD SAY OVER 90% OF THE ASSIGNMENT IS LOCATE -- ALIGNMENT IS LOCATED WITHIN HAYS COUNTY. THAT WAS, I WOULD SAY THAT WAS -- WHAT WOULD YOU SAY, 80 TO 90% AT LEAST?

>> YEAH. >> THAT BEING THE CASE AT LEAST ONE OF THE MEMBERS SAID SPECIFICALLY, WELL IT SOUNDS LIKE IT NEEDS TO BE Y'ALL LEADING THE CHARGE ON THIS AND KEEPING US INFORMED AS FAR AS WHAT'S GOING ON.

>> THIS IS THE, TEXAS.NEVER CONSIDERED 16269 LOGICAL FOR 45 OR 35, SO THIS HAS BEEN IN TX DOT'S PLAN. EVERYBODY GOD AGGRAVATED WHEN WE'RE BUILDING S. H. 25 BECAUSE I SAID I WOULD -- THEY WANTED TO KNOW HOW ARE YOU GOING TO CONNECT IT? WE WON'T TALK ABOUT THAT UNTIL AFTER WE STARTED CONSTRUCTION ON S. H. 45. SO THIS IS SOMETHING THAT PEOPLE IN HAYS COUNTY HAVE BEEN WAITING ON A LONG TYPE. THEY THINK IT HAS TAKEN US

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LONGER BUT THAT'S PART OF THE PROCESS, IT'S NOT GOING TO TAKE US 3 YEARS LIKE IT DID S. H. 45 BUT WE'RE PUSHING FOR IT AND AS HARD AS WE IT, AS FAST AS WE CAN.

HOPEFULLY THE PEOPLE IN THE HAYS COUNTY WILL BE AS PARENT AS THEY WERE WITH US AS 45.

>> I THINK THAT TO COMMISSIONER JONES' POINT, I'M LUCKY ENOUGH TO BE REPRESENTING WEST BUDDHA FOR 35 WEST. I CAN TELL YOU THERE IS PROBABLY NOT A SINGLE PROJECT THAT I HAVEN'T SAT DOWN AND TALKED TO COMMUNITIES OVER THERE THAT HAS HAD MORE SUPPORT THAN THIS PROJECT. THOSE COMMUNITIES THAT WOULD BE IMPACTED AND THE CITY ITSELF ARE EXCEEDINGLY SPIRIVE OF -- SUPPORTIVE OF THE PROJECT. I WANT TO TAKE THE

NEXT STEP IN THE PROCESS. >> JUDGE BECERRA: DOCTOR CARDENAS, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

[I4. Discussion and possible action to call for a public hearing on September 13, 2022 to reduce the current speed limit of 35 MPH to 25 MPH on Nature View Loop in Rutherford West subdivision. SMITH/JONES/BORCHERDING]

CONFLICTING MESSAGES SO I SAY NO. PLEASE OPEN I. 4.

>> I. 4, DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO CALL FOR A PUBLIC HEARING ON SEPTEMBER 13, 2022, TO REDUCE THE CURRENT SPEED LIMIT OF 35 MILE PER HOUR TO 25 MILE PER HOUR ON NATURE VIEW LOOP IN RUTHERFORD WEST

SUBDIVISION. >> SO MOVED.

>> SECOND. >> JUDGE BECERRA: PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

[K7. Discussion and possible action to approve the Assessment and Collection Agreements with La Salle Municipal Utility Districts 1 and 2. INGALSBE/O'KANE]

>> JUDGE BECERRA: GENTLEMEN, IF I'M NOT MISS TAPE WE'RE

ON K. 7. >> K. 7, DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLES ACTION TO APPROVE THE ASSESSMENT AND COLLECTION AGREEMENTS WITH LASALLE MUNICIPAL UTILITY

DISTRICTS 1 AND 2. >> SO MOVED.

>> SECOND. >> JUDGE BECERRA:

COMMISSIONERS. >> JUDGE, THIS IS A STANDARD AGREEMENT TO COLLECT AT THE TAXES AND GIVES JENNIFER

O'CANE THE ABILITY TO DO SO. >> JUDGE BECERRA: THANK YOU, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

[K8. Discussion and possible action to authorize the Sheriff's Office to submit orders for one (1) new and two (2) replacement Harley-Davidson Motorcycles that are approved in the FY 2023 budget. INGALSBE/CUTLER]

>> JUDGE BECERRA: K. 8. >> K. 8 DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO AUTHORIZE THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE TO SUBMIT ORDERS FOR ONE NEW AND TWO REPLACEMENT HARLEY DAVIDSON MOTORCYCLES THAT ARE APPROVED IN THE F. Y.

2023 BUDGET. >> SO MOVED.

>> SECOND. >> JUDGE BECERRA:

COMMISSIONER INGALSBE. >> THANK YOU, THIS IS TO AVOID ANY TYPES OF DELAYS, I THINK, THE VENDOR HAS SAID THAT IF WE ORDER NOW, WHICH THE MONEY HAS BEEN BUDGETED, THAT THEY CAN HAVE DELIVERY BY DECEMBER, EARLY DECEMBER

2022. >> JUDGE BECERRA: ACT NOW WHILE SUPPLIES LAST. OKAY. PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

[K9. Discussion and possible action to authorize modification of Exhibit A to the Collective Bargaining Agreement between Hays County and the Hays County Law Enforcement Association (HCLEA) approved on or about October 1, 2020. INGALSBE/SHELL]

>> JUDGE BECERRA: YES, PLEASE OPEN K. 9.

>> K. 9 DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO AUTHORIZE MODIFICATION OF EXHIBIT EXHIBIT A. TO THE COLLECTIVE BARGAINING AGREEMENT BETWEEN HAYS COUNTY AND THE HAYS COUNTY LAW ENFORCEMENT ASSOCIATION APPROVED ON OR

ABOUT OCTOBER 1, 2020. >> SO MOVED.

>> SECOND. >> JUDGE BECERRA:

COMMISSIONER SHELL. >> THANK YOU, COMMISSION IRINGALSBE AND I PARTICIPATED THIS ROUND OF COLLECTIVELY BARGAINING NEGOTIATIONS TO REMAINED THE COURT WE NOW HAVE 4 YEAR AGREEMENTS.

BUT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE 4 YEAR AGREEMENTS WE'LL ADDRESS APPLICATION OF THE MARKET TO OUR PAY PLAN FOR OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS BUT THEN THE SHERIFF'S OFFERS, CONSTABLE'S OFFICES AND OUR CORRECTIONS OFFICERS. SO THIS IS A MID YEAR UPDATE SO THE PAY PLAN WAS THE ONLY THING CONSIDERED THE ENTIRE AGREEMENT WAS NOT ON THE FABLE FOR NEGOTIATION THOUSAND WE'D, BOTH PARTIES COULD RESERVE THE RIGHT TO BRING THAT UP AND WE COULD DECIDE TO OPEN UP THE AGREEMENT BUT IN THE MID YEARS IT'S TRYING TO ADDRESS MARKET CHANGES, WE KNOW 4 YEARS THAT LONG TIME AND A LOT HAPPENS IN A 4-YEAR PERIOD OF TIME IN THE MARKET. WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE THE FLEXIBILITY TO ADDRESS THE CHANGES NOT ONLY ARE WE HAVING, COULD HAVE ACCESS BAITED PROBLEMS WITH FILLING VACANCY, RETAINING GOOD OFFICERS BUT WE WOULD BE SPENDING A LOT OF MONEY IN THAT 4 YEAR PERIOD OF TIME TO GET BACK TO THE IDEA WAS TO GIVE US THE BUDGET TO BUDGET MORE CONSISTENTLY. H. R. DOES A SURVEY OF THE MARKET THAT'S AGREED TO IN THE AGREEMENT BETWEEN H. C. L., HAYS COUNTY LAW ENFORCEMENT ASSOCIATION AND THE COMMISSIONERS COURT REPRESENTS THAT WITH OUR GENERAL COUNSEL MARK KENNEDY, AND WE PLUG ALL OF THOSE RATES FOR OUR MARKET COUNTIES, AND CITIES. SOME CITY P. D.'S FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS AND WE HAVE A METHODOLOGY AGREED TO IN THE AGREEMENT HOW TO ANALYZE THOSE NUMBERS. WE ALSO RESERVE THE RIGHT TO

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TWEAK THESE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GET THE MISSION OF THE COLLECTIVE BARGAINING DONE WHICH IS TO PROBABLY PRAY OUR OFFICERS, AS MANY OF YOU KNOW CURRENTLY LAW ENFORCEMENT IS NOT THE MOST POPULAR JOB OUT THERE.

WE'RE SEEING LOWER INTEREST FROM RECRUITS OF JOINING NOT JUST HAYS COUNTY BUT ALL ACROSS THIS COUNTRY AND THE STATE OF TEXAS AND WE OBVIOUSLY KNOW WHAT IS HAPPENING 234 JAILS I CROSS -- IN JAILS ACROSS COUNTRY AND JAILS ACROSS THE COUNTRY, THERE IS A VERY LOW NUMBER OF CANDIDATES FOR THESE JOBS.

WE'VE EXTREME VACANCIES IN OUR JAIL RIGHT NOW. SO ONE THING WE'LL ALSO WANT TO DO WHEN WE TAKE A LOOK AT THE PAY PLAN IS MAKE SURE WE'VE COMPETITIVE PAY AND FAIR PAY FOR AREAS NOT JUST SO WE CAN RECRUIT WHICH IS A VERY CHALLENGING RIGHT NOW BUT WE WANT TO RETAIN THE QUALITY OFFICERS THAT WE HAVE. I THINK THAT OVER THE YEARS LAW ENFORCEMENT ASSOCIATION AND HAYS COUNTY HAS DONE A REALLY GOOD JOB EVER TRYING TO ADDRESS THOSE ISSUES WHILE STAYING WITHIN A BUDGET. WE GO IN UNDERSTANDING THAT THERE IS ONLY GOING TO BE SO MUCH MONEY TO SPEND. HOW DO WE DO IT IN A WAY TO GIVE US THE BEST CHAPS FOR OUR OFFICERS TO BE SUCCESSFUL AND SAFE AND PROTECT US AND DO THE JOBS THEY'RE GOING TO DO? I'LL LET MR. KENNEDY GIVE A LITTLE UPDATE.

I THINK WE HAVE HIS TORICALLY SOME PLANS IN FRONT OF US AS WELL AS THE PLAN WHICH IS TITLED 8-10-22 GRAFT AMENDED AT 4:30 P.M. I PUT NOTES ON EACH ONE I CHANGED TO KEEP TRACK OF THEM ALL. THAT WAS THE LATEST WE MADE A CHANGE TO. WE'VE HAD A MEETING WITH THE LAW ENFORCEMENT ASSOCIATION ON THIS PAY PLAN.

I BELIEVE THEY WILL PLAN SO CALL A VOTE TO SUPPORT THIS AFTER WE HAVE HAD A CHANCE TO MARRY FROM MR. KENNEDY AND -- HEAR FROM MR. KENNEDY AND ACT ON IT OURSELVES.

>> WE PROVIDED A LITTLE BIT OF A SLIDE PRESENTATION FOR YOU JUST TO HELP BREAK IT DOWN.

IT JUST HITS THE HIGH POINTS. WE'LL START THAT.

YOU HAVE TWO EXHIBITS REALLY IN PLAY IN THE, WHAT WE CALL THE C. V. A. THE COLLECTIVE BARGAINING A. THIS IS THE EXHIBIT A. WHICH IS THE PAY PLAN.

EXHIBIT A. SO THE CURRENT AGREEMENT.

IT'S THE ONCE THAT YOU HAVE MARKED PAY PLAN 2020 C. V.

A. AT THE TOP. YOU'VE 3. YOU'VE THE ONE FROM 2016, YOU HAVE THE ONE FROM 2020. AND THEN YOU HAVE THE ONE THAT COMMISSIONER SHELL REFERENCED WHICH IS MARKED 8-10-22, THAT IS A DRAFT C. B. A. PAY PLAN. THAT IS THE PROPOSED UPDATE THAT YOUR COMMITTEE IS BRINGING TO YOU WITH A RECOMMENDATION THAT IT BE CONSIDERED TODAY.

THAT'S THE ACTION THIS IS BEFORE YOU TODAY IS TO ADOPT A NEW ACT A. NOW EXHIBIT E. IS THE METHODOLOGY, THE DESCRIPTION OF HOW WE'RE GOING TO AMEND EXHIBIT A. IN THE MID TERM OF THE CONTRACT. THIS IS A FOUR-YEAR CONTRACT. IT WAS ADOPTED BY THIS COURT IN 2020. IT'S NOW 2022. THE ONLY WAY THAT THE BARGAINING UNIT. H. C. L. E. A., THE HAYS COUNTY LAW ENFORCEMENT ASSOCIATION, THE ONLY WAY THEY WOULD AGREE TO SUCH A LONG-TERM OF 4 YEARS IS IF WE HAD SOME MEANS FOR KEEPING UP WITH THE MARKET IN THE MID TERM.

THIS METHODOLOGY IS WHAT WE DEVELOPED TWO ROUNDS AGO AS

A MEANS FOR DOING THAT. >> JUDGE BECERRA: VERY SMART THIS TIME FOR SURE. VERY BENEFICIAL.

>> IT IS HELPFUL. IT ALSO PREVENTS US FROM REOPENING A FULL BLOWN NEGOTIATION, COLLECTIVE BARGAINING NEGOTIATION WHICH DOES TAKE A LOT OF TIME AND RESOURCES AWAY FROM THE ADMINISTRATION OF THE COUNTY AND FROM OUR OFFICERS THAT REPRESENT THE BARGAINING UNIT. SO I THINK WE ALL PREFER NOT TO DO THAT TOO OFTEN. WE DON'T MIND DOING IT. IT'S IMPORTANT. BUT IT IS NOT WITHOUT A LOT OF EFFORT THAT WE GO THROUGH THAT PROCESS. SO THAT EXHIBIT E. AND THAT METHODOLOGY THAT WE LAID OUT DOES HELP US ACHIEVE THAT.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. SO WHAT WE STARTED WITH THEN WAS TO LOOK AT THAT METHODOLOGY, PLUG IN OUR MARKET SOURCES THAT WE ALREADY HAVE. WE ALREADY HAVE ESTABLISHED A MARKET, AND SEE WHAT THE METHODOLOGY, WHAT THE FORMULA KICKS OUT. IN THIS PARTICULAR CIRCUMSTANCE, IN THIS YEAR, IT KICKED OUT A NUMBER THAT LOOKED TO US TO BE QUITE STAGNANT. IF IT WAS' PRETTY SURPRISING TO ME THAT IT HAD NOT GONE UPWARD MORE. AND CONSIDERING THAT THE TROUBLE WE'VE HAD

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FILLING FOR INSTANCE CORRECTIONS OFFICERS SPOTS, WE ALL KNOW THE PLIGHT WE'VE HAD THERE. WE WERE A LITTLE SURPRISED TO SEE LESS MOVEMENT. WE TRIED TO ASCERTAIN WHAT WAS CAUSING THAT. I'M NOT SURE THAT THERE'S ANY ONE ANSWER. PART OF IT IS THAT THERE ARE A LOT OF OUR MARKET SOURCES OUT THERE THAT ARE IN THE PROCESS OF UPDATING THEIR PAY PLANS BUT HAVEN'T DONE SO YET OFFICIALLY. WE'RE ALL SORT OF DOING IT AT THE SAME TIME. WHAT THAT MEANS IS THAT IF SAN MARCOS T. D.

AND OTHER AGENCIES -- P. D. AND OTHER COUNTY AGENCIES THAT ALSO HAVE LOCAL JAILS, IF THEY UPDATE THEIRS AND WE HAVEN'T UPDATED OURS THEN WE'RE EVEN MORE UPSIDE DOWN WHEN IT COMES TO COMPETING AND RECRUITING. WE DIDN'T WANT THAT TO HAPPEN. ON THE OTHER HAND, WE COULDN'T EXACTLY USE AN UNOFFICIAL SOURCE OF THOSE MARKETS AS SORT OF "GOSPEL" WHERE WE COULD COUNT ON IT BECAUSE THEY HAVEN'T VOTED ON IT YET EITHER. SO WITH THAT IN MIND THEN, WE WENT TO SEE WHAT WE COULD DO TO MODIFY THE METHODOLOGY AND SLIGHTLY STILL ANCHORING OURSELVES TO SOME RULE, BUT MAYBE MODIFYING THE METHODOLOGY SLIGHTLY TO PUT US IN A POSITION TO COMPETE. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. SO WHAT WERE THE MODIFICATIONS? WELL, 3 IN PARTICULAR. ONE IS THAT WE MADE CERTAINLY NO POSITION WITHIN THE PAY PLAN HAD LESS THAN AN 8% INCREASE. WE ALSO CHANGED THE WAY WE CALCULATED METHODOLOGY RINK. LET ME BRING THAT TO YOU.

THE, ONE OF THE THINGS WE TRY TO ACHIEVE IS ABOUT BEING IN THE MIDDLE OF THE PACK. WE INCLUDE SOME MARKET SOURCES IN OUR MARKET THAT WE RECOGNIZE WE WOULD BE BEHIND. WE COULDN'T WANT TO BE FIRST. IN OUR MARKET.

BUT WE DO WANT TO BE COMPETITIVE IN OUR MARKET AND WE WANT TO BE COMPETITIVE ENOUGH THAT WE'RE ATTRACTING PROFESSION APPLES. SO KNOWING THAT WE AUTOMAKERS WANTED TO BE -- ALWAYS WANTED TO BE ABOUT IN THE MIDDLE. THE WAY IT WOULD HAVE WORKED IN THE PAST, FOR INSTANCE, IS OUT OF 9 MARKET SOURCES, WE WOULD HAVE RANKED 5TH. BY THE WAY WE CHANGED THIS IS THAT OUT OF 9 MARKET SOURCES WE WILL RANK 4TH.

SO INSTEAD OF ROUNDING UP WE'RE BASICALLY ROUNDING DOWN. I SAY HERE WE'RE INCREASING IT BY PLUS 1 BUT WHAT I MEAN WE'RE INCREASING OUR PLACEMENT IN 9 RANKING BY A+ 1 SO WE'RE SUBTRACTING ONE. INSTEAD OF 5TH WE'RE 4TH IN THE MARKET. AND THEN THERE WERE SOME KEY POSITIONS,ED PERFECT -- THE PERFECT EXAMPLE IS CORRECTIONS CORPORAL WHERE THERE WERE TOO FEW MARKET SOURCES OF THAT POSITION. NOT EVERY SOURCE OF MARKET DATA WE HAVE HAS THAT POSITION. SO WE MADE SURE WE KEPT THE POSITION COMPETENTTIVE BY LOOKING AT THE AMBASSADOR AROUND IT AND REFLECTINGS THE INCREASE THE RANKS GOT PARTICULARLY FOR CORRECTIONS CORRAL. WHAT THAT ACHIEVED THEN IS WHAT YOU HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. AND I'LL HIGHLIGHT A COUPLE OF THINGS. THIS IS THE POINT OF RECRUITMENT HERE IS CORRECTIONS OFFICER, AND WHAT WE CALL L. E.

DEPUTY. LAW ENFORCEMENT DEPUTY. THOSE ARE THE TWO POINTS OF RECRUITMENT. THEN PRESUMABLY PEOPLE WILL BE PROMOTED FROM THERE. IT'S POSSIBLE SOMEONE COULD BE RECRUITED INTO A HIGHER RANK BUT IT'S NOT COMMON.

RIGHT NOW, THE PAY PIECE THAT YOU HAVE PROPOSED IN FRONT OF YOU PLACES CORRECTIONS OFFICERS JUST

ABOVE $50,000 STARTING. >> JUDGE BECERRA: WHILE YOU ARE ON THAT CAN YOU FOR THE VIEWING PUBLIC, IF YOU HAVE THAT AVAILABLE TO YOU, SAY WHAT THE REQUIREMENTS ARE TO FIT THE CRITERIA FOR THE PAY?

>> WELL, SO FOR L. E. DEPUTY, [INDISCERNIBLE] FOR CORRECTIONS, I'M GOING TO HAVE TO DEFER TO --

>> JUDGE BECERRA: THIS IS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO KREUT

-- RECRUIT. >> THE CRITERIA TO BE A CORRECTION OFFICER YOU MUST BE 21 YEARS OF AGE AND SUCCESSFULLY COMPLETE STATE LICENSING CLASS TO GET YOUR

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CORRECTION OFFICER LICENSE THEN SUCCESSFULLY COMPLETE A FAILED TRAINING PROGRAM THROUGH THE JAIL.

>> JUDGE BECERRA: WHY I'M GLAD YOU DID THIS. I DIDN'T WANT TO SCREW THAT UP, BECAUSE IT'S VERY NECESSARY WHAT YOU'VE JUST DESCRIBED AND IT'S VERY USEFUL FOR US TO REMIND FOLKS OF REALLY HOW USER FRIENDLY YOU HAVE MADE IT OR THE STATE HAS MADE IT AND THAT'S A REALLY -- I MEAN THAT'S A GOOD STARTING PAY FOR SOMEONE IN THAT SETTING. I JUST -- I THINK THIS IS GOOD. I WANTED TO USE THAT AS A PROMOTIONAL, THANK YOU,

SIR. >> AND THEN LASTLY, L. E.

DEPUTIES STARTED A $63 AND CHANGE, ALMOST $64. SO THIS IS A CHANGE ABOVE WHERE THEY WERE IN 2020. L. E. DEPUTY WAS OF THE STARTING AT ALMOST 58 TO 2 MOVES FROM ALMOST 58 TO ALMOST 64 AND CORRECTIONS OFFICER MOVES FROM $43,352 TO JUST OVER $50. IT'S A GOOD PSYCHOLOGICAL THRESHOLD TO GET PAST.

>> I AGREE. YOU NAILED IT. I SNUCK IN MY QUESTION.

COMMISSIONERS, ANY COMMENTS OR COMMENTS.

>> THANK YOU FOR GETTING THIS.

>> THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER SHELL AND MARK, COMMISSIONER SHELL WAS BEING TOO KIND. HE DID ALL THE WORK ALONG WITH MARK KENNEDY BUT I, I FULLY SUPPORT WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE. I KNOW WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT IT SO MUCH TIMES, JUDGE AS IT RELATES TO OTHER EMPLOYEES BUT WE HAVE TO BE COMPETITIVE AND WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO RETAIN OUR EMPLOYEES. THIS IS JUST

EXTREMELY IMPORTANT. >> JUDGE BECERRA: THIS IS A GREAT MODEL, COMMISSIONER. YOU ARE EXACTLY RIGHT. WE SHOWED THIS CONTINUUM OF SUPPORT.

I COULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO SUPPORT THE DEPARTMENTS SUFFERING IN THE SAME WAY BECAUSE IT IS WHAT IT IS.

THE SHERIFF IS AN ELECTED DEPARTMENT BUT IT'S STILL A DEPARTMENT IN THE COUNTY SO I WOULD LIKE TO IN MY MOMENT HERE TO SAY, I WANT OTHER ELECTED DEPARTMENTS TO FEEL THE SAME SUPPORT. I REALLY DO. COMMISSIONER SMITH.

>> I WOULD JUST SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, WE KNOW AT THIS POINT HOW HARD IT HAS BEEN TO GO OUT AND RECRUIT CORRECTIONS OFFICERS AND PATROL OFFICERS AND JUST ABOUT ANYBODY WHO WOULD WANT TO WEAR A BADGE THESE DAYS.

I THINK THE PROBLEMS THAT HAVE COME AND THE ATTACKS THAT HAVE COME ON OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS HAS MADE RECRUITMENT EXCEEDINGLY HARD AND I THINK ANYTHING THAT WE CAN DO TO INCENTIVIZE ADDITIONAL PROTECTORS IN OUR COMMUNITY I'M GOING TO BE SUPPORTIVE OF. ANYTHING WE CAN DO TO GET OUR JAIL FULLY STAFFED I'M GOING TO BE SUPPORTIVE OF SO I THINK

THIS IS A GOOD START. >> JUDGE BECERRA: THAT'S RIGHT. I WILL ECHO THAT. IT'S YES WE SUPPORT THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT AND OTHER --

>> I WANT TO CLOSE THINKING, THANKING THE ASSOCIATION THEIR MEMBERSHIP AND PARTICIPATION, THEY EVER A REALLY GOOD PARTICIPATION IN THIS. AND THEY REALLY LOOK AT THIS AS WHAT IS BEST FOR THE COUNTY. I TRULY BELIEVE THAT. IT'S CALLED INTEREST BASED BARGAINING WE TALK ABOUT WHAT OUR INTERESTS ARE. WE WANT THE BEST OFFICERS PROTECTING THE PUBLIC THAT WE POSSIBLY CAN.

THEY HAVE A VERY SIMILAR INTEREST. YOU COULD HAVE AN ASSOCIATION THAT IS MORE WORRIED ABOUT THEMSELVES PERSONALLY THAN THEIR PARTNERS ANS ARE THOSE COMING AFTER THEM AS THEY HAVE A REALLY GOOD UNDERSTANDING, THEY DON'T WANT US HIRING INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE NOT AT THE TOP BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING TO BE WORKING ALONGSIDE. THEY'RE GOING TO PATROL THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD. THEIR CHILDREN GO TO SCHOOL IN SO THERE'S A REALLY -- IT'S A GOOD GROUP THAT CARES ABOUT THIS COUNTY. DOES THE VET BEST THEY CAN IN HARD SITUATIONS, UNDERSTANDS THERE IS BUDGET LIMITATIONS, WE DO DISCUSS WHAT OUR INTERESTS ARE AND WHAT IS BEST FOR COUNTY. THAT'S WHY WE COME UP UP TO SOMETHING WHICH WE'VE HAD A CONCENSUS ON THE LAST TIME WE'VE BEEN INVOLVED UNDER A I BELIEF IT'S BECAUSE OF THE A GREAT ORGANIZATION THAT HAS GOOD LEADERSHIP AND A LOT OF PARTICIPATION FROM ACROSS THE MEMBERSHIP. HE IS SHOW UP AND THEY'RE NOT JUST LOOKING AT THE CHART TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT DOES THAT MEAN FOR ME WHICH RIGHTFULLY SO TO DO. THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO TAKE CARE OF THEIR FAMILIES BUT THEY LOOK AT IT AS A WHOLE, I WANT TO

TELL THEM I APPRECIATE IT. >> JUDGE BECERRA:

MR. KENNEDY, ANYTHING ELSE? >> I BELIEVE THAT WILL DO IT

UNLESS YOU HAVE QUESTIONS. >> JUDGE BECERRA: I THINK WE'RE ALL IN FULL UNIFIED SUPPORT.

DR. CARDENAS, DO YOU HAVE A ARTICULATION OF MOTION?

>> I BELIEVE MY MOTION WOULD BE TO APPROVE THE PAY PLAN LABELED 8, 10, 11 DRAFT AMENDED AT 4:30 P.M.

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>> SECOND. >> THERE WE ARE

[INDISCERNIBLE] >> JUDGE BECERRA: PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

[K11. Discussion and possible action to authorize the execution of a Government Agency Agreement, Services Agreement Order Form, and associated License Agreements with Flock Group, Inc. for traffic monitoring cameras and associated hardware and software and authorize a waiver to the purchasing policy. INGALSBE/JONES/CUTLER]

>> JUDGE BECERRA: YES, PLEASE OPEN K. 11.

>> K. 11 DISCUSSION AND IMPORTANTLY ACTION TO AUTHORIZE THE EXECUTION OF A GOVERNMENT AGENCY AGREEMENT SERVICES AGREEMENT ORDER FORM AND ASSOCIATED LICENSE AGREEMENTS WITH FLOCK GROUP, INC. FOR TRAFFIC MONITORING CAMERAS AND ASSOCIATED HARDWARE AND SOFTWARE AND AUTHORIZE THE A WAIVER TO THE PURCHASING POLICY.

>> SO MOVED. >> SECOND.

>> JUDGE BECERRA: WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS, SHOULD SOME LIGHT ON IT? LET'S PROMOTE THIS IDEA. IT'S GREAT. CHIEF.

>> WHAT THIS IS. THESE ARE CAMERAS PLACED IN STRATEGIC LOCATIONS ALONG COUNTY ROADS, HIGHWAY, STUFF LIKE THAT. THE GREAT BENEFIT WE GET OUT OFF THIS IS WHEN YOU SEE ON THE SIGNS THERE A IS AN BLEATER, A SILVER ALERT, IF ONE OF THE CAMERAS PICKS UP THAT CAR, THEY NOTIFY US IMMEDIATELY. AND PRIME EXAMPLE AUSTIN HAD ONE TWO WEEKS AGO. THIS EXACT SYSTEM WAS USED TO HELP LOCATE THE VEHICLE IN THE CEDAR PARK AREA. CITY OF BUDA THERE IS A SUBDIVISION THAT THE CITY OF BUDA THAT USES THESE, TWO DAYS IN A ROW THERE WERE STOLEN CARS IN THE SUBDIVISION SO PEOPLE DRIVING AROUND IN STOLEN CARS ARE PROBABLY NOT UP TO ANY GOOD IN A SUBDIVISION. SO IT SERVES AS AN INVESTIGATIVE TOOL DEVELOPS FINDING MISSING AND

ENDANGERED PEOPLE. >> JUDGE BECERRA: WONDERFUL.

I KNOW POTENTIALLY -- NO, LET'S JUST BE HONEST IT'S CONTROVERSIAL BUT I'LL SIT HERE FULLY BOTH FEET IN SUPPORTING THE EFFORT. HOW MANY CAMERAS?

>> 6 INITIALLY. >> JUDGE BECERRA: OKAY.

>> WITH PROBABLY SOME INTENTIONS IN THE FUTURE TO EXPAND AS THE COUNTY GROWS. AND DIFFERENT LOCATIONS ON HIGHWAYS. WE NEED TO SEE WHAT'S GOING TO BE THE MOST PRODUCTIVE. SO SOME OF THAT WILL CHANGE, WE MY WANT TO ELECT TO ADD MORE OR SAY WE'RE GOOD WITH WHAT WE HAVE. ULTIMATELY, WE ALREADY HAVE SOME IN OUR VEHICLES NOW, BUT ULTIMATELY, WITH OUR VIDEO CAMERAS IN OUR CARS EVERY CAR WILL BE OUTFITTED WITH IT AS WELL. SO --

>> JUDGE BECERRA: THIS IS FOR CARSES?

>> NOT WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TODAY. WE'RE STRICTLY TALKING ABOUT STATIONERY DEVICES.

>> JUDGE BECERRA: THANK YOU, STATIONERY DEVICES, NOW I'M THE, OF THE BELIEF THAT WE SHOULD TELL PEOPLE AS MUCH AS YOU CAN SO THEY CAN -- I DON'T KNOW -- MODIFY. IS THE IT, BUT I KNOW IN THE EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT STUFF, WE'RE NOT ALWAYS BEST TO TELL PEOPLE THINGS. SO IS THIS ONE OF THOSE ITEMS WE'LL TELL FOLKS WHERE THEY ARE OR WE'RE GOING TO KEEP IT MILDLY JUST POPPED UP --

>> THEY WILL BE ABLE TO SEE THEM. IT'S NOT, THEY'RE NOT

HIDDEN. >> JUDGE BECERRA: THAT'S WHAT I WAS TRYING TO SAY. TELL US WHERE THEY'RE GOING

TO BE. >> ONE AS FAR AS TODAY, THE TWO COMMISSIONERS CO-SPONSOR ONE WILL BE IN EACH OF THEIR PRECINCT. ONE AT B. B. AND GO FORTH AND ONE ON HIGHWAY

21. >> JUDGE BECERRA: BOTH ON

THE EAST SIDE OF THE COUNTY. >> WE'VE MORE THAT ARE ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE COUNTY BUT THEY'RE STATE RIGHT OF WAY SO WE HAVE TO GET STATE APPROVAL TO GET THEM APPROVED. THIS IS JUST, THESE ARE THE ONLY TWO ON

COUNTY RIGHT OF WAY. >> JUDGE BECERRA: OKAY. HOW

MANY CAMERAS IN ALL? >> SIX TOTAL.

>> JUDGE BECERRA: YOU'VE IDENTIFIED TWO.

>> THERE IS ONE ON HIGHWAY 290. EAST OF DRIPPING SPRINGS. I'M HESITANT TO GO INTO THAT BECAUSE I DON'T

WANT TO TELL YOU WRONG. >> JUDGE BECERRA: SURE.

>> THAT'S WHERE WE WANT IT. >> JUDGE BECERRA: YES, SIR.

>> WE MIGHT HAVE TO MOVE THEM. SOME OF THESE WE'VE HAD TO MOVE ALREADY SO WE'RE NOT SET IN STONE.

>> JUDGE BECERRA: YOUR AIM 290 IS HIGH TRAFFIC, WE'VE MOTORISTS OUT THERE DOING GOOD WORK, 3 TO GO.

>> RANCH ROAD 12 AREA. >> JUDGE BECERRA: LONG ROAD.

NARROW DOWN. >> I WANT TO SAY SOUTH OF DRIPPING SPRINGS NORTH OF 150 BETWEEN 290 AND 150 BUT

I'M NOT POSITIVE. >> JUDGE BECERRA: THAT'S

LIKE A TWO BLOCK FOOTPRINT. >> TWO AND A HALF MILES.

>> IT'S HIGH TRAFFIC. >> FOR SURE HIGH TRAFFIC.

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>> THAT'S WHAT WE'RE FOCUSING ON.

>> JUDGE BECERRA: VERY GOOD. AND --

>> I DON'T KNOW THE OTHER -- >> JUDGE BECERRA: THAT'S OKAY. ARE THESE GOING TO BE LICENSE PLATE RECOGNITION?

>> SO THAT'S WHAT WE CALL THEM.

BUT IT'S NOT LIKE IT SHOOTS ANYTHING OUT AND READS A LICENSE PLATE. IT TAKES A PICTURE OF THE BACK END OF THE VEHICLE. THIS PARTICULAR COMPANY DO, THE SOFTWARE. THEN IT'LL TAKE THE LICENSE PLATE, CHECK IT AGAINST STATE AND NATIONAL DATA, CRIMINAL

DISTRICT ATTORNEY BASES. >> JUDGE BECERRA: I LOVE IT.

>> THAT'S HOW WE GET NOTIFICATIONS OF AMBER

ALERTS. >> THE OTHER LEG FACE

RECOGNITIONS? >> NO, NO.

>> JUDGE BECERRA: OKAY. >> THIS IS NOTHING SIMILAR TO A RED LIGHT CAMERA. THERE ARE NO CITATIONS, THERE IS NOTHING DONE WITH THE INFORMATION.

>> JUDGE BECERRA: I WANT TO KNOW WHAT WE'RE DOING.

I REALLY APPRECIATE YOU ENTERTAINING ME THROUGH THE PROCESS, I'M TRYING TO NOT ONLY UNDERSTAND IT BETTER BUT ALSO SHARE WITH THE PUBLIC SINCE YOU THOUGHT IT WAS FINE TO SHARE. COMMISSIONERS, ANYTHING

ELSE? >> THANKS, MIKE FOR BRINGING THIS TO OUR ATTENTION, IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE THAT COULD BE CAPTURED WITH THESE THAT COULD BE BENEFICIAL?

>> IT SERVES QUITE A FEW DIFFERENT INVESTIGATIVE PURPOSES. WITHOUT GOING INTO DETAIL, WE INVESTIGATED A MURDER NOT TOO LONG AGO AND WE HAD THE CAMERA UP THERE WE WOULD HAVE RECOGNIZED THE CAR THAT DROPPED THE BODY OFF. SO THAT, THAT'S HOW WE CAN

UTILIZE IT IN THOSE AREAS. >> JUDGE BECERRA: WILL YOU KEEP MY OFFICE APPRISED AS YOU MAKE THE DECISIONS TO KNOCK DOWN THE SIX LOCATIONS, KEEP ME COPIED SO IF ASKED I COULD HAVE THE ANSWER.

>> LICENSE THEY'RE FINALIZED IT'LL FORWARD YOU THAT.

>> JUDGE BECERRA: THANK YOU, CHIEF, APPRECIATE IT.

PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

[K12. Discussion and possible action to award a contract for RFP 2022-P07 Electronic Security Upgrades to CML Security, LLC., and authorize staff and General Counsel to negotiate a contract. BECERRA/T.CRUMLEY]

>> JUDGE BECERRA: YES, K. 12.

>> DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO AWARD A CONTRACT FOR R. F. P. 2022-P. 0 ELECTRONIC SECURITY UPGRADES TO C. M. L. SECURITY. L. L. C. AND AUTHORIZE STAFF AND GENERAL COUNSEL TO NEGOTIATE A CONTRACT.

>> SO MOVED. >> JUDGE BECERRA: THERE YOU ARE, I SEE YOU REACHING FOR THE MIKE. THANK YOU. THANK

YOU. >> TAMMY CRUMLEY DIRECTOR OF COUNTYWIDE OPERATIONS. THIS IS THE LONG AWAITED CONTRACT FOR THE NEW UPGRADED CAMERA AND BADGE SYSTEM FOR THE GOVERNMENT CENTER AND THE CAMERA SYSTEM

FOR THE COURTHOUSE. >> JUDGE BECERRA: THIS COURTHOUSE FOR THE VIEWING PUBLIC, ANYBODY ELSE YOU WANT TO ADD TO SHARE WITH THE COMMUNITY?

>> NOT UNLESS YOU HAVE SPECIFIC QUESTIONS.

>> JUDGE BECERRA: OKAY. COMMISSIONER INGALSBE.

>> JUDGE, IT HAS BEEN A LITTLE BIT OF A LONG TIME COMING AND THANK YOU, TAMMY FOR ALL YOUR WORK. AND, YEAH, IT IS' GREAT TO BE GETTING THOSE --

>> JUDGE BECERRA: SEE IN THIS MOTION, IF NOTHING ELSE PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

[K13. Discussion and possible action to authorize various departments to submit vehicle orders to Enterprise Fleet Management for forty (40) new and replacement leased vehicles that are approved in the FY 2023 budget. INGALSBE/DORSETT]

>> JUDGE BECERRA: K. 13. >> K. 13 DISCUSSION AND% POSSIBLE ACTION TO AUTHORIZE VARIOUS DIDN'T TO SUBMIT VEHICLE ORDERS TO ENTERPRISE FLEET MANAGEMENT FOR 40 NEW AND REPLACEMENT LEASED VEHICLES THAT ARE APPROVED

IN THE F. Y. 2023 BUDGET. >> SO MOVED.

>> SECOND. >> JUDGE BECERRA: SAME AS A

MOTORCYCLES. >> THAT IS CORRECT.

>> JUDGE BECERRA: PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

WILL SAY THIS: ON THAT AGENDA ITEM I DO LOOK FORWARD TO THE DAY WHETHER I'M SITTING HERE OR NOT THAT WE BEGIN TO BUY ELECTRIC VEHICLES IN OUR FLEET. I THINK THAT WILL BE A REALLY COOL THING FOR US TO DO AND I THINK IT WILL BE USEFUL AND I MEAN THERE IS NO REASON WHY WE CAN'T IF WE'RE GOING THROUGH ENTERPRISE.

IT HERTZ, THEY'LL PLUG YOU IN, WHAT IS THAT COMMERCIAL? ANYWAY, IF THERE IS THAT WE ARE -- OUR FIRE MARSHAL WAIT WAITING OVER THERE, PLEASE OPEN J. 1.

J. 1 M. 1. >> MY PAGE IS FOLDED:

[M1. Discussion and possible action related to the burn ban. BECERRA]

>> DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION RELATED TO THE BURN

BAN. >> OKAY. STATE YOUR NAME

AND TITLE. >> COMMISSIONER MARK, HAYS COUNTY FIRE MARSHAL, CURRENTLY HUNTY IS UNDER A BURN BARN SO AS MENTIONED IN THE UPDATE THAT I E-MAIL OUT YESTERDAY WE'VE 3 DIFFERENT OBJECTIONS, ONE IS

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TO EXTEND BECAUSE YOU WILL NOT HAVE COURT BY THE TIME THE CURRENT BURN BAN EXPIRES. THE OTHER IS TO JUST LET IT RUN ITS COURSE FOR THE NEXT TWO WEEKS.

WEEK AND A HALF AND LET IT FALL AWAY ON SEPTEMBER THE 6TH. OR WE LIFT THE BURN BAN TODAY.

WHILE WE'VE SEEN BENEFICIAL RAINFALL FALLING OUTSIDE MUCH THE WINDOWS AS OF ABOUT 20 MINUTESEVER MINUTES AGO, THAT RAINFALL WAS LESS THAN HALF INCH. MAJORITY OF THE COUNTY, HOWEVER RAINFALL IS CURRENTLY STARTING TO MOVE INTO DRIPPING SPRINGS AND WEMBLEY WHERE WE HAVE SEEN THE LEAST AMOUNT OF RAIN IN ALL THE SHOWERS THAT HAVE COME THROUGH. CURRENTLY THE K. B. D. I. FOR THE COUNTY IS UPDATED. WE ARE AT ALT 678 WITH A RANGE OF 534 TO 763. 763 BEING IN THE WESTERN SIDE OF THE COUNTY BEING THE DRIEST AREA. FEW OTHER THINGS TO ALSO CONSIDER HERE, THE U.S. DROUGHT MONITOR STILL LISTS HAYS COUNTY UNDER THE EXCEPTIONAL DROUGHT CRITERIA AND OF COURSE WE'RE SEEING QUITE A FEW WATER RESTRICTIONS ACROSS COUNTRY WITH WATER SYSTEMS.

SO. >> JUDGE BECERRA: SIX OF

ONE, HALF DOZEN OF OTHER. >> I HAVE TEXTED BACK AND FORTH TOE QUITE A FEW FIRE CHIEFS THIS MORNING AND WE'RE AT THE SAME. LEAVE IT IN PLAYERS LET'S SEE WHAT HAPPENED TO GO AHEAD AND LIFT IT SO -- I COME TO YOU WITH THREE OPTIONS.

>> JUDGE BECERRA: OKAY. >> FOR ME, IF WE LIFT TODAY THAT MEANS WE MOVE FROM ONE WORK LOAD TO ANOTHER WORK LOAD WHEN WE START GOING BACK TO PERMITTING BURNS ACROSS THE COUNTY. SO I KNOW AS SOON AS YOU HIT THE GAVEL TODAY, THOSE REQUESTS WILL BE COMING THROUGH OUR OFFICE. THE ONE CONVERSATION THAT WAS HAD â– ISWHILE WE'RE SEEING SOME RAINFALL, WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE MORE GREENUP, ESPECIALLY IN THE AREAS THAT HAVEN'T HAD A WHOLE LOT OF RAIN.

IN MY TRAVELS ACROSS THE COUNTRY IN RECENT DAYS, IN THE SHORTER GRASSES THAT HAVE SEEN SOME RAINFALL, YOU CAN SEE SOME GREEN UP. IN THE AREAS THAT DO HAVE TALLER GRASSES THE GREENUP IS VERY LIMITED.

BUT WITH THAT BEING SAID WHEN YOU TRAVEL TO THE WESTERN SIDE OF THE COUNTY EVEN IN THE SHORTER GLASSES YOU ARE NOT SEEING MUCH GREENUP. IF I HAD TO PICK A RECOMMENDATION, I WOULD SAY LET'S LEAVE THE BURN BAN IN PLACE AND LET'S LET IT RUN ITS TERM UNTIL THE SEPTEMBER 6TH. IF WE NEED TO PLACE THE BURN BAN BACK IN A PLACE THEN WE CAN REVISIT THAT AT COURT THE WEEK LATER.

>> JUDGE BECERRA: OR WE CAN ALSO HAVE THAT I LIKE THAT OPTION BECAUSE WE CAN ALSO PUT IT ON WITHOUT COURT JUST

AS QUICKLY -- >> LET IT RUN OUT IN A WEEK AND THAT WILL GIVE IT TIME TO GREEN UP.

>> THE FORECAST, THE FORECAST FOR THIS WEEK WHILE I SEND YOU A SNAPSHOT YESTERDAY BEING LOOKING AT IT WHILE WE'RE HERE IN COURT THE PERCENTAGE VIN CREASED FROM -- HAVE INCREASED FROM TODAY INTO TOMORROW WHICH IS A LITTLE MORE PROMISING BUT THROUGHOUT THE REST OF THE WEEK INTO THE WEEKEND IT DOES SHOW CHANCES OF RAIN WITH A LITTLE MORE PROMISING THAN WHAT I SENT OUT

YESTERDAY. >> JUDGE BECERRA:

COMMISSIONERS? >> JUDGE, I, I WILL TELL YOU I HAVE A SERIOUS CONCERN WITH ALLOWING IT-TO-JUST RUN ITS COURSE AND IF WE HAD THE ONE WEEK GAP, IF THE RAIN DOESN'T COME I CAN TELL YOU THAT THERE ARE AREAS IN MY PRESIXTH RIGHT -- PRECINCT RIGHT NOW, WE'VE SEEN WHERE THE WILD FIRES HAVE BEEN OVER THE LAST MONTH AND COMMISSIONER SHELL AND MY PRECINCT HAVE BEEN DEVASTATED BY THEM. AND THERE ARE PEOPLE, INDIVIDUALS THAT I'M GETTING CALLS FROM ON A DAILY BASIS ASKING CAN I BURN SENATOR EQUALLY AS MUCH AND I GAVE AN EXAMPLE OF THIS TO THE FIRE MARSHAL, I'VE WHOLE COMMUNITIES SAYING CAN THE FIRE MARSHALL OR THE FIRE DEPARTMENT COME OUT AND DO AN OVERALL EVALUATION BECAUSE OUR NEIGHBORHOODS ARE SO DRY THAT NO MATTER HOW MUCH RAIN WE GET INTO THE NEXT 2 WEEKS WE COULD BURN UP. CAN THEY COME OUT AND LOOK AT WHAT THE FUEL LOAD IS AND MOW TO IMPROVE THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO ADDRESS THAT? I WOULD MUCH RATHER US TAKE THE ACTION TO EXTEND IT UNTIL THE 13TH WHENEVER WE CAN COME BACK AND LOOK AND SEE WHAT THE NUMBERS R. I WOULD VENTURE TO GUESS IF OUR TARGET ON A BURN BAN AS YOU STATED IN THE PAST WAS JUST UNDER 400, IS THAT CORRECT --

>> TYPICALLY WE LOOK AT 525. >> I'M SORRY, 525 THERE IS NO WAY THAT MY PRECINCT IS NOT WELL ABOVE T. I WOULD SAY THE MAJORITY OF IT IS PROBABLY OVER 700.

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>> JUDGE BECERRA: WHAT I WAS HEARING THE FIRE MARSHAL SUGGEST IS LETTING IT RUN ITS COURSE UNTIL IT EXPIRES WHICH IS A WEEK FROM NOW. THEN IF THINGS DON'T IMPROVE, IF THE RAIN THAT'S SCHEDULE TO COME DOESN'T COME, WE ALWAYS HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO TURN ON THE BURN BAN BEFORE COURT ANYWAY. SO JUST TO GIVE YOU THAT EXTRA EDGE OFEST BECAUSE I, TOO, -- ALL OF US WANT TO BE SAFE AND CAUTIOUS BUT IN THAT THERE IS A DELICATE BALANCE OF THE FIRE WOOD SITTING THERE OR THE --

>> FUEL. >> THE FUEL LOAD.

>> THE FUEL LOAD NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED INTELLIGENTLY AS WELL OTHERWISE YOU ARE SITTING THERE WAITING TO HAVE A BIGGER FIRE. SO THERE'S THE DELICATE BALANCE SO I WAS SUPPORTIVE OF THE IDEA OF YOURS TO LET IT RUN ITS COURSE NATURALLY, EXPIRE WITH THE RAIN SLATED TO COME AND IF SOMETHING DOES CHANGE AND IT'S NO BETTER THEN WE

CAN PUT IT ON. >> IF THAT IS THE DIRECTION THE COURT WOULD LIKE TO GO, ONCE IT EXPIRES, THEN WHAT WE WOULD HAVE TO LOOK AT WOULD BE AN EMERGENCY BURN BAN. I KNOW THERE HAS BEEN SOME DISCUSSION IN THE PAST -- IF THAT IS THE WAY OF THE COURT I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT WE EXTEND IT UNTIL WE MEET AGAIN. SO WE LET THE BURN BAN, CURRENT BURP BAN GO UNTIL SEPTEMBER 6TH AND MR. KENNEDY, IF I MAY, CAN WE TAKE ACTION TODAY TO PLACE ONE IN AFFECT ON THE 7TH TO THE 13TH?

>> YES, THE COURT COULD TAKE A CONTINGE END ACTION TODAY AND -- CONTINGENT ACTION AND HAVE THAT COME INTO EFFECT IF CERTAIN CONDITIONS ARE MET OR NOT MET.

>> JUDGE BECERRA: HERE WE HAVE THIS UNIQUE WINDOW TO ALLOW FOLKS THAT FLEXIBILITY AND WITH THAT SUGGEST THAT SECOND SUGGESTION I FEEL WE'VE TAKEN IT AWAY.

>> I; I CAN TELL YOU IF WE -- I HAVE A REAL CONCERN.

IF WE LET THAT THING EXPIRE AND IF WE'RE SITTING HERE A WEEK OUT SAYING WELL, AS SOON AS IT HITS WE'RE GOING TO PUT ON ON EMERGENCY BURN BAN WHAT WE'RE DOING AS A GOVERNING BODY IS KICKING THAT TO YOU TO SAY, HEY, YOU, IT'S ON YOU. IT'S YOUR CALL. I MEAN IT'S OUR RESPONSIBILITY TO TAKE THESE ACTIONS, AND IT REALLY ISN'T

FAIR TO YOU TO DO THAT. >> JUDGE BECERRA: THAT'S HIS

JOB, IT IS O. OK. >> THAT'S WHY I'M MAKING THE SUGGESTION WE LET THE CURRENT BURN BAN RUN UNTIL THE THE 6TH BUT THE COURT EXTEND IT FROM THE 7TH INITIALLY REINSTATING IT ON THE 7TH AND MOVING THE EXPIRATION TO THE 13TH SO THEN WE'RE BACK IN COURT AND

WE CAN RE REEVALUATE. >> I WOULD MAKE THE MOTION.

>> JUDGE BECERRA: NO PROBLEM, EXPIRING ON THE 6TH TO RENEW IT FOR THE 7TH, MOTION AND A SECOND, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

[M2. Discussion related to the Hays County inmate population, to include current population counts and costs. BECERRA]

>> JUDGE BECERRA: YES, THANK YOU, SIR, PLEASE OPEN M. 2.

>> N. 2. DISCUSSION RELATED TO THE HAYS COUNTY INMATE POPULATION TO INCLUDE CURRENT POPULATION COUNTS

AND COSTS. >> EVENT WEEK THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE SENDS ME A CAPACITY OF OUR JAIL AND WHAT IS GOING ON HERE LOCALLY. CURRENT CAPACITY IS 410 INMATES. THAT HAS DIMINISHED BECAUSE OF STAFFING, JAIL STANDARDS RECOMMENDS HOLDING APPROXIMATELY 10% OF THE CAPACITY OPEN WHICH LOWERS OUR CAPACITY TO 368. JAIL'S DAILY AVERAGE WAS 648 ON AUGUST 22. THE ESTIMATED COST FOR OUTSOURCING INMATES THIS WEEK WAS $75,153. THE AVERAGE NUMBER OF OUTCOURSED MALES IS 128. FEMALES ARE 25. THIS WEEK'S INMATES WERE HOUSED IN AMBULANCEO BURNETT, COMLE, LEE, FAFF RIC AND RED RIVER. PAPER READY INMATES HAVE TICKED UP A BY. WE'RE AT 33 PAPER READY GYP MATES ARE INMATES THAT ARE NOW HAVE HAD THEIR DAY IN COURT, FOUND GUILTY AND ARE STATE INMATES AND WE'RE HOLDING 33 OF THEM. NOW WE GO TO EXECUTIVE

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SESSION IF THERE IS NOTHING ELSE. PLEASE OPEN OUR ONE

ITEM. L. 1. >> EXECUTIVE PURSUES SESSION TO THE SECTIONS 551.07 AND 551.072 OF THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE. CONSULTATION WITH THE COUNSEL AND DELIBERATION REGARDING THE PURCHASE, EXCHANGE, LEASE AND OR VALUE OF REAL PROPERTY ASSOCIATED WITH PARKS AND OPEN SPACE PROJECTS BEING CONSIDERED BY HAYS COUNTY. POSSIBLE DISCUSSION AND OR ACTION MAY FOLLOW IN OPEN COURT.

>> JUDGE BECERRA: WE'RE GOING TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE

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SESSION, IF YOU ARE NOT DIRECTLY TIED TO THIS AGENDA ITEM, PLEASE CLEAR RELATED TO THING A SIGNIFICANCE OF APPROXIMATELY $1,0 -- 1,068 ACRES.

AND IT'S PRESENTED AND DISCUSSED IN EXECUTIVE SESSION. AUTHORIZED GENERAL COUNCIL TO EXECUTE ALL DOCUMENTS CLOSE THIS TRANSACTION AND AH AMEND THE BUDGET ACCORDINGLY.

JUDGE, A FEW COMMENTS. THE PURCHASE OF THE EASEMENT IS $9.5 MILLION.

THAT IS ABOUT HALF OF WHAT THE APPRAISED VALUE OF THE PARCEL IS.

THIS PURCHASE WILL EXTEND OUR PRESERVE ESTABLISHED PREVIOUSLY THROUGH THE COLLABORATION OF THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE 1769 ACRES TO BE CONSERVED IN PER PIT TRUIT. IT WILL GO INTO OUR HABIT TAT CONSERVATION BANK. WE WILL BE ABLE TO REMARKET THOSE CREDITS AND RECOUP SOME OF THESE COSTS AND ALSO IMPORTANT PROTECTION FOR THE WATERSHED AND AQUA FIR AND THIS PURCHASE WILL ALSO PROVIDE AN EXTENSION OF THE PURGATORY SYSTEM PROVIDING MORE RECREATIONAL OPPORTUNITIES IN

THE AREA. >> WELL SAID. PLEASE CALL THE ROLE.

>> COMMISSIONER ENGEL. >> YES. >> COMMISSIONER JONES.

>> YES. >> COMMISSIONER SHELL? >> YES.

>> COMMISSIONER SMITH? >> YES. >> MOTION ADJOURNED.

ENJOY THE REST OF YOUR WEEK.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.