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>> A VERY GOOD MORNING TO YOU ALL.

YES, I LOVE THAT SOUND. DON'T MISINTERPRET THE IMPACT ON THIS GAVEL WITH ANYTHING EMOTIONAL ACCEPT FOR THE SOUND OF THE HOLLOW WOOD MAKING THAT ECHO.

BEFORE WE START I WOULD LIKE TO SAY HAPPY BIRTHDAY D DR. CARDENAS. I WOULD LIKE TO CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER. THIS MORNING INVOCATION WILL BE LED BY DANIEL NAPP FROM FIRST UNITED METHODIST CHURCH. IF YOU WILL PLEASE ALL RISE FOR SO WE CAN PERMEATE THIS PHASE WITH PEACE AND

TRANQUILLITY. >> MAY I JUST ASK THAT YOU KEEP THE SULLIVAN FAMILY IN OUR PRAYERS.

HE WAS JP HERE IN EAST COUNTY FOR MANY YEARS HAS

PASS AWAY. >> ALSO MY SISTER JENNIFER SCOTT GRANDFATHER PASSED AWAY THIS MORNING.

>> SULLIVAN AND SCOTT FAMILIES.

>> LET'S PRAY. LORD WE THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE GIVEN US TO WORSHIP YOU FREELY AND TO PARTICIPATE IN OUR GOVERNMENT.

WE PRAY THAT THE CONVERSATIONS TODAY WOULD BE FILLED WITH GRACE AND TRUTH. WE ASK THAT THOSE WHO MAKE DECISIONS WOULD BE MOVED BY WISDOM AND COMPASSION.

REMIND US YOU HAVE CALLED US TO LOVE OUR NEIGHBORS AS OURSELVES. AND TO CARE FOR THOSE WHO ARE STRUGGLING. AND ESPECIALLY TODAY LORD WE LIFT UP THE SULLIVAN AND SCOTT FAMILIES IN THEIR GRIEF. AS WE LOVE THOSE WHO ARE NEIGHBORS AND WE CARE FOR THOSE WHO ARE STRUGGLING.

MAY WE DO SO FOR YOUR GLORY, IN THE NAME OF THE FATHER, AND THE SON AND THE HOLY SPIRIT, AMEN.

>> AMEN. PASTE THAT EVERY MORNING.ND-

SO VERY WELL SAID. >> I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.

AND TO THE REPUBLIC, FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION, UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBBER TIR -- LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

>> THANK YOU. >> DR. CUTLER, WILL YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

[E. PUBLIC COMMENTS]

THOSE IN AUDIENCE WHO SUBMITTED A PUBLIC PARTICIPATION WITNESS FORM TO SPEAK.HAVE THREE MINUTES- UNFORTUNATELY NO ACTION MAY BE TAKEN BY THE COURT AS WE ARE NOT ABLE TO RESPOND. ANY QUESTIONS ARE TAKEN AS RHETORICAL. ALL COMMENTS ARE THE OPINIONS OF THE SPEAKER AND ARE NOT MEANT TO BE NECESSARILY CONSTRUED AS TRUTH.

PLEASE CLEAN YOUR COMMENTS AND LANGUAGE CIVIL AND RESPECTFUL OR YOU WILL FORFEIT THE REMAINDER OF YOUR TIME. IN THIS SPIRIT OF RESPECT, PLEASE SILENCE YOUR CELL PHONES.

WILL I DO IT AGAIN. PLEASE JUST TAKE A MINUTE.

IT'S NOT A BIG DEAL. MAKE SOME MOVEMENTS, SILENCE YOUR CELL PHONES. FIRST UP TO SPEAK WE HAVE TOTAL -- DO WE HAVE WRITTEN COMMENTS?

>> ONLY FOR THE WORKSHOP. >> WE HAVE SIX SIGNED UP IN THE PUBLIC COMMENTS. WHEN WE SEE A LOT OF NEW FACES AND ENERGY I LIKE TO EXPLAIN.

THERE'S TWO WAY TO BE HEARD. THE SECOND IS PUBLIC COMMENT THE SECOND WHEN I OPEN THE AGENDA ITEM.

>> I ASSUME YOU WANT TO SPEAK AT THE BEGINNING.

THE OTHERS SIGNED UP WHEN THE AGENDA ITEM HAS BEEN OPENED. YOU WILL HAVE THREE MINUTES.

THE COUNTY CLERK OFFICE PUT A THREE MINUTE TIMER.

YOU DON'T HAVE FREEZE WHEN THE TIMER GOES OFF.

YOU CONCLUDE YOUR THOUGHTS IN THE MOST EFFICIENT MANNER POSSIBLE TO RESPECT EVERYONE ELSE'S TIME.

FIRST UP TO SPEAK IS PASTOR JEFF THOMPSON.

>> THREE MINUTES. COME ON DOWN.

GOOD MORNING, JUDGE. COMMISSIONER.

I'M JEFF THOMPSON A LEADER WITH CORRIDOR ENTER ALLIANCE FOR FAMILIES. I HAVE WITH ME THIS MORNING.

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I WANT TO TALK A LITTLE BIT THIS MORNING ABOUT MY FAVORITE SUBJECT. CAPITAL IDEA.

WHICH IS SCHOLARSHIP PROGRAM FOR POVERTY LEVEL STUDENTS ATTENDING AUSTIN COMMUNITY COLLEGE.

FIRST OF ALL WE'RE VERY APPRECIATIVE OF YOU INCLUDING CAPITAL AND THE BUDGET DURING THE PAST THREE YEARS. AND JUDGE BECERRA FOR YOU GIVING MORE IN THE BUDGET THIS YEAR.

WE BEGAN WITH $25,000 IN 2020, INCREASED TO $30,000 IN 2021 AND $50,000 THIS YEAR.

AND $50,000 RECOMMENDED FOR NEXT YEAR.

WE WOULD LIKE YOU TO SERIOUSLY CONSIDER RACING THAT $100,000. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE SOMETIMES DON'T EMPHASIZE ENOUGH CAPITAL IDEA IS NOT IN THE CATEGORY OF A CHARITY.

BUT IN ESSENCE WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT OPPORTUNITY.

IT IS AN INVESTMENT IN THE FUTURE OF HAYS COUNTY THAT GIVES MOTIVATED LOW-INCOME STUDENT THE OPPORTUNITY TO SUCCEED AND THAT BENEFITS ALL OF US.

IN COMPARISON THE CITY OF AUSTIN AND TRAVIS COUNTY PUT 2.2 MILLION TOWARD THIS PROGRAM AS WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENTS IN THEIR BUDGET.

THE FUNDS YOU HAVE PROVIDED OVER THE PAST THREE YEARS HAVE ENABLED 40 STUDENTS TO ATTEND ACC.

AND MANY OF THOSE CAPITAL IDEA STUDENTS HAVE GONE ON TO NURSING AND OTHER MEDICAL CAREERS, CAREERS THAT ARE SO IMPORTANT TO THE WELFARE OF OUR COMMUNITIES.

AS I'M SURE YOU'RE AWARE, HOWEVER, THAT'S NOT ENOUGH FOR OUR FAST-GROWING COUNTY. THERE ARE MANY MORE STUDENTS WHO WOULD BE HELPED TO BE HELPED TO BECOME MIDDLE CLASS TAX PAYERS. FOR EVERY $5,000 HAYS COUNTY COULD ADD TO THE MONEY ALREADY RECOMMENDED IN THE BUDGET, ANOTHER STUDENT COULD LEAVE THEIR POVERTY BEHIND. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME TODAY. WE ASK FOR YOUR SERIOUS CONSIDERATIONS ON THAT IN BUDGET AND GOD BLESS YOUR

DELIBERATION. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

YOU HAD THAT PERFECTLY TIMED.

NEXT UP WE HAVE MISS MARY MITCHELL.

YOU WILL HAVE THREE MINUTES. IF YOU WILL PLEASE APPROACH

THE PODIUM. >> GOOD MORNING.

THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TO YOU TODAY. MY NAME THE MIRIAM MITCHELL.

I HAVE BEEN A RESIDENT OF HAYS COUNTY SINCE 2001.

AND HAVE WORKED THE POLLS FOR THIS COUNTY FOR OVER TEN YEARS. I CAN TELL YOU THAT I AND MANY OTHER PEOPLE I VISIT WITH HAVE LOST FAITH IN OUR ELECTION PROCESS AND MANY MORE PEOPLE EACH DAY ARE OPENING THEIR EYES TO THE GROWING EVIDENCE OF CORRUPTION BEING EXPOSED IN MANY COUNTIES HERE IN TEXAS ALL OVER AND ALL OVER OUR UNITED STATES.

THIS MUST BE INVESTIGATED. ALWAYS SURE THE ELECTION LD- SAFE AND SECURITY. I LOOK FORWARD TO HEARING THAT UPDATE. I HOPE TO HEAR IT TODAY.

I ALSO HOPE WE HEAR FROM THE ELECTION OFFICE THAT THE FOLLOWING ITEMS WILL BE ACKNOWLEDGED AND CONFIRMED AS NECESSARY TO SECURE TO THE SECURITY OF OUR ELECTIONS. SEQUENTIALLY NUMBERED BALLOTS PRINTED ON SECURE PAPER ACCORDING TO TEXAS ELECTION CODE 52.062. WITH THE JUDGE'S SIGNATURE ON EVERY BALLOT, ACCORDING TO TEXAS ELECTION CODE 62.008 TO REESTABLISH PRECINCT VOTING LOCATIONS AND TO RETAIN ALL RECORDS PERTAINING TO THE 2020 ELECTION PAST THE 22-MONTH MANDATORY STATUTE FOR CONTINUING INVESTIGATION. AS YOU KNOW, ELECTION RECORDS MUST BE KEPT FOR 22 MONTHS AND ONE DAY.

BUT THAT IS A MINIMUM. THERE'S NO REQUIREMENT FOR THEM TO BE DESTROYED EVER. ESPECIALLY WHEN THE PAST

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ELECTIONS ARE SO QUESTIONABLE.

IF WE DON'T GET A HANDLE OF BEING SURE THE ELECTION PROCESS IS HONEST AND TRUE, WE ALL LOSE.

AND THE WANING CONFIDENCE THE PEOPLE HAVE WILL CONTINUE TO ERODE EVEN FURTHER.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

AND JUST SO YOU KNOW ELECTION ADMINISTRATOR IS

HERE TODAY. >> NEXT SPEAKER IS MR. DOUG STEWART. GOOD MORNING.

THANKS FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK WITH YOU.

I'M DOUG STEWART. I'M A 50 YEAR RESIDENT HERE IN HAYS COUNTY. I QUALIFY AS AN OLD TIMER NOW. I'M NOT SURE I WEAR THAT MANTLE WITH GREAT HONOR. I'M HERE TO ADDRESS THE PROBLEM WE'RE FACING ESPECIALLY IN WIMBERRY.

I'VE LIVED THERE 48 YEARS. I'M CONCERNED THAT I KNOW MANY OF MY NEIGHBORS ARE WITH THE GROWING WATER -- SCARCITY OF WATER OR THE LACK OF POTENTIAL WATER IN THE FUTURE. WHAT IT COMES DOWN TO IS NOW TWO RV PARKS HAVE BEEN OKAYED IN HAYS COUNTY NEAR JACOB'S WELL, WITHIN 2-3 MILES.

SINCE THE WELL IS NOT FOLLOWING.

THAT MAKES IT MORE CONCERN. THE PROBLEM I SEE IS THAT THIS IS FOR RECREATIONAL USE.

IT'S NOT FOR RESIDENTIAL USE.

PEOPLE WHO COME TO THE COUNTY SIMPLY TO ENJOY THE BEAUTIFUL NATURE AND NATURAL SURROUNDINGS AREN'T NECESSARILY IN MY OPINION GOING TO RESPECT THE RESOURCES AND CONCERNS THAT WE HAVE FOR WATER IN MAKING THEM AVAILABLE AND KEEPING THEM AVAILABLE TO THE RESIDENTS OF THE COMMUNITY. I DON'T KNOW THE INS AND OUTS OF PUTTING BRAKES ON THIS.

I'VE BEEN TOLD THAT IT'S IN YOUR COURT SO TO SPEAK.

I BELIEVE THAT IT'S TIME TO IMPOSE SOME KIND OF RESTRICTIONS OR AT LEAST LIMITS ON THIS KIND OF

GROWTH. >> THANKS AGAIN FOR YOUR

TIME. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS MR. DAN LANE.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH JUDGE AND COMMISSIONERS.

I WANT TO READ FROM THE SAN MARCOS DELAY RECORD OF AUGUST 12TH, 2022. UNDER THE TITLE OF HAYS COUNTY HOME BUYERS CAN ANTICIPATE COOL DOWN ECONOMIST SAYS. THE HAYS COUNTY HOUSING MARKET WILL COOL DOWN IN THE COMING MONTHS ACCORDING TO PROJECTIONS FROM TEXAS A&M REAL ESTATE RESEARCH CENTER.

ECONOMIST OUT OF PERSON DEW. PURSUE PREDICTS HAYS COUNTY RISING HOME PRICES WILL LEVEL OFF AS GAINS IN INVENTORY REDUCE ECONOMIC PRESSURE ON HOME BUYERS.

WE'RE FORECASTING THAT PRICES ARE GOING TO KIND OF FLAT LINE FOR THE NEXT FEW YEARS.

PURDUE TOLD THE DAILY RECORD.

MAYBE A LITTLE NEGATIVE, MAYBE A LITTLE POSITIVE.

FURTHERMORE, IN THIS ARTICLE JASON, PRESIDENT OF THE GREATER SAN MARCOS PARTNERSHIP OFFERED SILVER LINES. HE SAID HOUSING DEVELOPMENTS ARE STILL AT LUCRATIVE PRICE POINT TO MATCH THE JOBS COMING INTO HAYS AND CALDWELL COUNTIES.

>> JASON OUGHT TO KNOW AFTER ALL HE HAS PH.D. IN ECONOMICS. WAIT A MINUTE.

MY BAD. HE HAS A BACHELORS IN POLITICAL SCIENCE. AS THE MATTER OF FACT HIS QUOTE SILVER LINING UNQUOTE, IS NO BETTER THAN A GUESS.

AS INTEREST RATES CLIMB THE JOBS COULD DISAPPEAR LIKE A MIRAGE IN THE DESERT. IT LOOKS LIKE THERE'S POSSIBILITY OF CLASS ACTION LAWSUIT AGAINST THE HAYS COUNTY CENTRAL APPRAISAL DISTRICT FROM THE INFORMATION I HAVE RECEIVED THE CADS CHIEF APPRAISER ADMITTED THAT THEY WERE USING THE MULTIPLE LISTING SERVICE OF THE BOARD OF REALTORS OF TRAVIS COUNTY WITHOUT THEIR KNOWLEDGE OR PERMISSION.

THIS IS, OF COURSE, A VIOLATION OF THE LAW AND BRINGS INTO QUESTION THE LEGITIMACY OF THE ENTIRE APPRAISAL SYSTEM. IN SHORT, HAYS COUNTY IS IN TROUBLE. THIS PONZY SCHEME WHICH WE ARE HALF A BILLION IN DEBT TEETERING ON THE VERGE OF CLASH. SLASH TAXES IMMEDIATELY AND START SPENDING LIKE SOBER HUMAN BEING INSTEAD OF LIKE

DRUNKEN SAILORS. >> THANK YOU.

>> NEXT UP WE HAVE GUADALUPE TOREZ.

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>> I THINK I WAS HERE ABOUT TWO YEARS AGO.

I'M STILL LOOKING FOR HELP TO GET IN CONTACT WITH THE GOVERNMENT -- GOVERNOR'S OFFICE.

I HAVE LIKE I SAID BEFORE. I HAVE SAFETY EQUIPMENT DESIGNED FOR THE SAFETY OF THE CHILDREN AND THE CLASSROOMS, OFFICE ROOMS, CUBICLES EVEN THE STAFF HERE WOULD DESIGN FOR THEIR TEAM. BUT I HAVEN'T HAD ANY RESPONSE. I'M A LITTLE GUY.

I GO AND ASK. WHERE IS YOUR PH.D.? WHERE IS YOUR GRADUATE? I DON'T HAVE ONE.

I'M JUST A COMMON SENSE GENTLEMAN.

CONCENTRATED ON THIS ISSUE. I'VE DRAWN GRAPHS AND GRAPHS. AND NEED SOME HELP TO TO GET MY IDEA FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE CHILDREN.

IT'S JUST FOR THE SAFETY OF PEOPLE.

EN FOR MASS CASUALTIES AND MASS SHOOTINGS, I HAVE COME UP WITH OTHER DEVICES FOR THAT.

I GOT THE IDEA BUT I DON'T HAVE THE MONEY OR THE ABILITY BUILD THESE THINGS. THEY ARE COMMON SENSE DESIGNS. TECHNOLOGY EXIST BUT IT'S USING A DIFFERENT PASSION. I'M JUST MARRYING THEM TOGETHER. I'M JUST LOOKING FOR SOME HELP. EVEN THROUGH THE PRESS OR WHATEVER. TEY WON'T LISTEN TO ME BY MYSELF. I JUST NEED SOME HELP.

>> THANK YOU. AND I HAVE YOUR PHONE NUMBER ON YOUR SHEET. I WILL CALL YOU AND SEE HOW

WE CAN SUPPORT YOU. >> THANK YOU.

>> OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS UP. >> COUPLE OF WEEKS BACK I CAME BY AND LIKE I HAVE BEEN FOR YEAR EXPRESSING HOW WORRIED I AM ABOUT THE YOU ALL HANDLE BUSINESS HERE AT THIS COURT. I WANT TO LET YOU ALL KNOW, I USED TO PREPARE TO COME UP HERE WITH YOU ALL COURT AGENDA'S. THE WEEKLY AGENDAS.

BUT HERE IN THE LAST PROBABLY TWO MONTHS, SOMEONE CHANGED THE FORMAT AND IT'S WHOLE LOT MORE DIFFICULT TO KIND OF REALLY LOOK AT AND UNDERSTAND IT.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON.

THERE WAS NOTHING WRONG WITH THE OLD FORMAT.

BUT YOU KNOW, IT JUST MADE THINGS WORSE FOR US.

I NOTICE YOU KNOW SOME OF THE ORIGINAL RECEIPTS ARE NO LONGER THERE. IN THE OLD WAY OF DOING THINGS. WE WOULD FILE WITH THE TATE AND ALL THAT STUFF. SOME OF THE INCONSISTENCY I NOTICED SO FAR IF YOU LOOK AT 15 AND 16.

I WONDER WHY SOME OF THE RESPONSES SAYS TALK ABOUT THE BUDGET AMENDMENTS ON THESE TWO THEY BOTH SAY YES.

BUT THEN UNDER THE AUDITOR'S COMPETENTS.

IT SAYS GUIDELINES FOLLOWED ONE SAID NA AND THE OTHER SAYS YES. IT'S KIND OF -- I'M WONDERING WHY THE INCONSISTENCIES.

YOU KNOW, THAT BRINGS UP QUESTIONS WHY IS ONE BEING APPROVED ONE WAY AND THE OTHER ONE BEING TOTALLY DIFFERENT. IT IS JUST SOMETHING TO LOOK FOR THOSE THAT CARE. MONEY IS INVOLVED.

NOT SMALL AMOUNTS OF MONEY. YOU KNOW BIG AMOUNTS OF MONEY. THE OTHER THING I NOTICE YOU ALL HAVE THE WORKSHOP SCHEDULED FOR 11:00 FOR THE BUDGET FOR THIS NEXT YEAR. SOME OF THE THINGS THAT I REALLY STRONGLY ENCOURAGE YOU TO ACCOUNT FOR THIS TIME LIKE FOR THE JP, YOU KNOW THERE'S NO ACCOUNTABILITY FOR THE MARRIAGES AND STUFF. AND THAT'S A LOT OF MONEY THAT IS BEING -- THAT THE JP'S ARE BENEFITTING FROM.

BECAUSE THERE'S NO ACCOUNTABILITY.

THERE'S BEEN SOME RECOMMENDATIONS BY FORMER EMPLOYEES ABOUT PUTTING SERIAL NUMBERS ON THOSE MARRIAGE LICENSES THERE YOU CAN DO A BUTTER JOB OF TRACKING TO SEE HOW MUCH MONEY IS GENERATED.

AND THAT IS BECAUSE IT'S A SOURCE OF INCOME SHOULD BE INCLUDED INTO THE SALARY OF ELECTED OFFICIALS.

A WHILE BACK SOMEONE BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION THAT ONE JP WAS BRAGGING ABOUT HOW SHE MARRIED 20 PEOPLE IN A DAY OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. AT 300, NO QUESTIONS ASKED.

RIGHT NOW THE PUBLIC IS BARELY MAKING IT WITH THE HIGH GAS PRICES AND THE PRICE OF RENT AND ALL KINDS OF OTHER ISSUES. THAT WOULD BE A BIG HELP TO THE TAX PAYER TO HOPEFULLY START ACCOUNTING FOR THOSE SERVICES THAT THE JP'S HAVE BEEN BENEFITTING FOR YEARS.

THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU.

>> MR. AMAYA. THAT CONCLUDES OUR PUBLIC

[F1. Presentation by Connected Nation on the results of the Hays County Broadband Study. SHELL/SMITH/T.CRUMLEY]

COMMENTS PORTION. >> PLEASE OPEN F-1.

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PRESENTATION BY CONNECTED NATION TOWN RESULTS HAYS

COUNTY BROADBAND STUDY. >> THAT'S ME.

>> WILL YOU PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND TITLE.

>> I'M PAM WAGNER WITH CONNECTED NATION IN EYE BEEN HERE SEVERAL TIMES OVER THE LAST MANY, MANY MONTHS COLLECTING SURVEYS, TALKING TO THE COMMUNITY, TALKING TO THE LEADERS. TRYING TO UNDERSTAND YOUR BROADBAND NEEDS AND THE HOLISTIC WAY.

WE KNOW THERE'S THE ACCESS WAY.

THE INFRASTRUCTURE WAY. BUT THERE'S ALSO A LOT MORE TO BROADBAND THAN JUST ACCESS.

WITH THAT JUST A FEW HOUSEKEEPING RULES.

IF WE COULD JUST GO AHEAD AND PUT UP THE FIRST PAGE THAT WOULD BE GREAT. I'M GOING TO GO THROUGH THE INFORMATION FROM THE SURVEY RECEIPT IN QUICK FASHION.

I KNOW YOUR AGENDA IS LONG AND YOU HAVE A LOT TO TALK ABOUT TODAY. I WANT TAKE TIME TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE WORK DONE BY THE JUDGE.

BY THE COMMISSIONERS, ESPECIALLY BY MISS SIMONE BACK HERE WHO HAS LED THE EFFORT AND BEEN THE MEDIATOR BETWEEN THE DIFFERENT PARTIES.

WE HAVE STOOD AT EASTER EGG HUNTS TOGETHER.

WE STOOD AT CINCO DE MAYO TOGETHER TALKING ABOUT BROADBAND TO GET A FEEL FOR WHAT'S GOING ON IN COMMUNITY. THIS IS ONE OF THE BEST LEADERS I'VE HAD IN THE COMMUNITY.

THANK YOU FOR ALL YOU HAVE DONE ON THAT.

A LITTLE BIT MORE HOUSEKEEPING WHAT I WILL PRESENT TO YOU. THE IS DRAFT.

IT'S NOT THE FINAL. IT SHOULD BE CLOSE TO FINAL.

IF YOU SEE SOMETHING YOU DON'T LIKE OR YOU THINK WE SHOULD ADD OR CHANGE A WORD. HAPPY TO DO THAT FOR YOU.

BECAUSE THIS IS YOUR ACTION PLAN.

THIS IS YOUR TECHNOLOGY ACTION PLAN.

IT'S TO HELP YOU MOVE FORWARD WITH BROADBAND IN HAYS COUNTY. IF YOU DON'T MIND BECAUSE WE NEED TO GET IT ONLINE AND UP FRONT FOR THE PUBLIC TO SEE IF YOU COULD HAVE COMMENTS TO SIMONE BY FRIDAY SO SHE CAN SEND THEM TO ME IF YOU COMMENTS.

THEN WE WILL WORK IT FROM THERE.

IF THAT FOR SOME REASON IS NOT ENOUGH TIME LET ME KNOW.

HOPEFULLY THAT WILL GIVE YOU ENOUGH TIME.

GO TO PAGE -- I CERTAINLY WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE SAINT DAVID'S FOUNDATION. THEY PAID FOR THIS SURVEY.

IT'S AN EXPENSIVE SURVEY. AND THEY JUST WANT RURAL TEXAS TO REALLY UNDERSTAND BROADBAND FOR EVERYBODY TO BE CONNECTED. THEY'VE BEEN A FANTASTIC PARTNER. I CAN TELL WHEN I REDO THE PRESENTATION FOR THE UNION LINE PORTAL, I WILL MAKE SURE I WILL PUT THEIR LOGO AND PUT THEM UP FRONT AND CENTER. MOVING ON TO THE NEXT PAGE.

AND THEN THE NEXT PAGE AFTER THAT.

WE'RE QUESTIONING TO JUST TALK ABOUT THE OVERVIEW.

THIS IS KIND OF THE EXECUTIVE SUMMARY OF ALL THAT WAS DONE. I USUALLY DON'T READ THINGS.

I LOVE THE FIRST STATEMENT OF THAT.

TODAY TECHNOLOGY PLAYS A PIVOTAL ROLE IN HOUSE BUSINESS OPERATES. HOW THE INSTITUTION PROVIDES SERVICES AND WHERE CONSUMERS CHOOSE TO LIVE, WORK AND PLAY AND WE PUT THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT OF ALL COMMUNITY IS DEPENDENT UPON BROADBAND. WE RAN THE SURVEY FOR THE LAST MONTH WE CERTAINLY BE ANALYZING WHAT THOSE RESULTS SAY.RWHAT THEY MEAN, IN THE MEANTIME WE ALSO PROVIDED A LIVE FIELD AUDIT IN ADDITION TO THIS SURVEY WHICH YOU HAVE BEEN PRESENTED. YOU CAN SEE THE LATEST POPULATION 241,000. YOU HAVE 76,000 HOUSEHOLDS.

MEDIUM INCOME IS $68,700. THAT'S MEDIAN.

THERE'S MANY BENEATH. THE POVERTY RATE IS 12.7.

HISPANIC LATINO POPULATION IS 38.5%.

AND HOUSEHOLD WITH BROADBAND ACCESS THE 99.16% AND WE HAVE PRETTY MUCH VERIFIED THAT.

>> YES, SIR. THAT'S WHERE I HAVE A RAISED EYEBROW APPROACH ABOUT IT. I GOT TO SAY THIS SO I CAN CLEAR MY CONSCIOUS. WHEN I GOT YOUR REPORT AND I'M LUCKY I GOT IT A FEW DAYS BACK.

I FELT SKEPTICAL ABOUT THAT NUMBER.

HELP CONVINCE ME THAT'S TRUE.

>> I'M GOING TO MAYBE -- I WILL CONVINCE THAT YOUR

SKREPTISM IS CORRECT. >> IF PEOPLE WERE ASKED IF THEY HAD SLOW INTERNET OR NOT RELIABLE THEY FEEL LIKE THEY DON'T HAVE ACCESS; RIGHT? EVEN THOUGH THE PROVIDERS ARE TELLING YES, INDEED THEIR ACCESS, PEOPLE DON'T FILL LIKE THEY HAVE ACCESS.

ACCESS IS ACTUALLY TEN DOWN, ONE UP.

YOU HAVE THE INFRASTRUCTURE IN PLACE.

YOU WILL SEE AS THE -- AS WE GO FORWARD WHY I BELIEVE THAT'S TRUE. YOUR ADOPTION RATE IS SO LOW

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IN THIS COUNTY. IF THEY HAVE SUCH HIGH ACCESS RATE THEY WOULD HAVE HIGH ADOPTION RATE; RIGHT? YOU'RE SKEPTICISM IS CORRECT.

REMEMBER WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT HOW INTERNET IS PROVIDED OR HOW A STATISTICS ARE PROVIDED TO FCC.

THEY ARE PROVIDED IN CENSUS BLOCKS.

IF YOU HAVE A CENSUS BLOCK WITH 100 HOUSES AND ONE HOUSE HAS INTERNET CONNECTION, THE ENTIRE CENSUS BLOCK IS CONSIDERED TO HAVE CONNECTION.

99 PEOPLE CAN BE WITHOUT CONNECTION.

BUT THAT ONE HAS IT. THAT SHOULD CHANGE OVER THE YEARS. WHEN THE NEW MAPPING SYSTEMS COME OUT A LITTLE BIT. PROVIDER ARE STILL GOING TO BE ABLE TO SOMEWHAT MANIPULATE THOSE RESULTS BUT NOT THE WAY THEY DO IT TODAY.

AGAIN I SAY MANIPULATE. THAT'S SUCH A NEGATIVE WORD.

THEY DO IT PERFECT I WILL LEGAL.

NAY STILL DO HAVE LEEWAY ON HOW THEY WILL BE ABLE TO PRESENT THEIR RESULTS. IN HAYS COUNTY, WHAT DRIVING AROUND ESPECIALLY UP IN THE AREAS THAT DON'T HAVE THE CONNECTION, YOU REALLY DO HAVE ACCESS EVERYWHERE.

BUT IT MAY NOT BE RELIABILITY.

BUT YOU HAVE ACCESS. DOES THAT HELP?

>> YOU HAVE IT. >> NOT REALLY.

>> BUT I WILL LET YOU KEEP GOING.

. >> LET ME FINISH THE PRESENTATION. THOSE ARE FACTS THAT WAS

FOUND. >> I HAVE ONE QUESTION FOR YOU. I KNOW THAT THE NUMBERS THAT YOU ARE USING HERE ARE THE 2020 CENSUS NUMBERS.

THE NUMBERS OUT FROM 2020. >> SOME OF THEM.

OVERALL THE HISPANIC OR LATINO POPULATION, THOSE NUMBERS ARE PULLED AND REFERENCED TALENT BOTTOM OF THE CHART. I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO LOOK, IF YOU JUST DO QUICK FACT ON CENSUS, THEY UPDATED NUMBERS AS OF JULY THAT ARE NOT SIGNIFICANTLY DIFFERENT BUT PRETTY DIFFERENT. AND SO I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO JUST HAVE A LOOK AT WHAT THOSE ESTIMATES ARE AND MAYBE INCLUDE THOSE AS WELL. THOSE NUMBERS HAVE WELL OVER 250,000. DIFFERENT HISPANIC POPULATION. IT'S ACTUALLY HIGHER.

SINCE WE DID THE CENSUS THIS YEAR IN 2022 USING THE UPDATED NUMBERS WOULD PROBABLY BE BETTER.

>> THAT'S AN EASY CHANGE. I'M HAPPY TO DO IT BEFORE WE DO THE FINAL RECORD ON LINE. I WILL USE THE ONES FROM

JULY. >> I WILL SAY ONE MORE LITTLE TINY DETAIL ABOUT 91.6% THAT I DISAGREE WITH.

I WOULD ASK YOU MAYBE PUT SENTENCE DISCLAIMER AS TO HOW YOU DERIVED AT THAT NUMBER.

ONE HOUSEHOLD HAS IT. THE TELECOMMUNICATION FOLKS CAN FUDGE THE NUMBERS IS HOW I SEE IT.

I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THAT IN THERE SOMEWHERE.

PEOPLE SAY THAT'S NOT ALL TRUE AND THAT'S WHY.

>> I WILL DO THAT. I WILL FIGURE OUT HOW TO DO THAT. I FEEL THAT AS WE GO THROUGH THE REPORT AND WE TALK ABOUT THE ACTION PLAN IT ADDRESSES WHILE THAT FEELS HIGH. IF SOMEONE DOESN'T READ FROM

TOP TO BOTTOM THEY MISS IT. >> IN PARTICULAR SURVEY.

THANKS FOR THE COMMENTS. I WANT THIS REPORT TO BE SATISFIED WITH THIS REPORT AND WHAT WE PUT ONLINE WE WANT TO RELY TOWN INFORMATION.

1469 INDIVIDUAL HOUSEHOLDS TOOK THE SURVEY.

AND WE THINK EACH HOUSEHOLD THAT DID THAT.

THAT'S ONE PERSON PER HOUSEHOLD.

WE APPROACHED THIS BROADBAND STUDY IN A VERY HOLE LISS STATISTIC WAY. WE FOCUS ON THE QUALITY OF LIFE. OFFER TO RESIDENTS AND COMMUNITY LEADERS ABOUT THE ADOPTION AND USE OF THE INTERNET AND OF COURSE PRODUCTIVITY THE CAPACITY, WITH THIS APPROACH IS IDENTIFIED ISSUE AN ACTIONS OPPORTUNITIES NECESSARY TO CLOSE THE LOCAL DIGITAL DIVIDE. THAT'S REALLY WHAT THIS PARTICULAR SURVEY REALLY FOCUSES ON.

WE CAN GO AHEAD AND GO THROUGH THE NEXT SLIDE.

YOU CAN SEE OVERALL HAYS COUNTY OVERVIEW.

YOU HAVE 66.4% OF HOUSEHOLDS IN HAYS COUNTY THAT REPORT SUBSCRIBING TO FIXED INTERNET SERVICE.

REMEMBER FIXED INTERNET SERVICE IS YOUR FIBER, YOUR CABLE, ANY STATIONARY INTERNET PROVIDER.

IT'S NOT TELEPHONE, IT'S NOT SATELLIGHT.

IT'S ANYTHING BUT STATIONARY.

THAT IS A LITTLE BIT OF A LOW.

ADOPTION RATE. THAT'S SUBSCRIBED TO FIXED INTERNET SERVICE COMPARED TO OTHER ESPECIALLY SINCE IT SAY 99.16% ACCESS TO INTERNET.

MOVING DOWN THAT SLIDE A LITTLE BIT.

FOR HOUSEHOLDS THAT DON'T SUBSCRIBE TO HOME INTERNET SERVICE THE TOP AREA THE LACK OF AVAILABLE BROADBAND SERVICE WHICH THAT GOES TO THE JUDGE'S POINT RIGHT IS

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THERE. AGAIN, PEOPLE ARE FEELING THAT I DON'T HAVE ACCESSEN THEY DO HAVE ACCESS.

AND THE COST OF THE INTERNET SERVICE.

MOST HOUSEHOLDS IN HAYS COUNTY.

95% HAVE ACCESS TO INTERNET SERVICES AT FEES NEEDED TO RUN MODERN APPLICATIONINGS. THAT'S DETERMINED 100 MEG BIRTH BITS MORE SECOND DOWNSTREAM AND 10 UPSTREAM STATEWIDE. 82% OF HOUSEHOLD HAVE INTERNET ACCESS TO THIS SPEED.

EVEN THOUGH THERE'S ACCESS TO SPEEDS OF AT LEAST 25, 3 AT 99.16. TO GET THE BETTER SPEEDS TO RUN THE MODERN DAY APPLICATIONS, ONLY 82% OF YOUR COMMUNITY HAS THOSE SPEEDS.

DOES THAT HELP, JUDGE? >> YES, MA'AM.

>> NEARLY 3 OUT OF FOUR EMPLOYEES SURVEYED RESPONDED IN YOUR COUNTY. 74% REPORT WORKING IN SOME CAPACITY A LITTLE BIT. OF THAT PERCENTAGE 42% TELE WORK EVERY DAY WITH ADDITIONAL 29% THAT TELE WORK SEVERAL DAYS A WEEK. THAT'S PRETTY HIGH.

THAT'S PRETTY GOOD. AND WE KNOW THE PANDEMIC HAS BROUGHT THAT AROUND. WE WILL TALK ABOUT THAT MORE LATER. WE HAVE MAJORITY OF HOUSEHOLDS, 54% OF HOUSEHOLDS, 64% OF BUSINESSES. AND THIS IS JUST KIND OF THE QUESTION. WHAT BETTER SERVICE.

PEOPLE WANT BETTER SERVICE. THEY NEED THE INTERNET FOR THEIR QUALITY OF LIFE. THEY NEED THEIR YRT INTERNET TO WORK. THE KIDS NEED THE INTERNET TO GO TO SCHOOL. PEOPLE WANT MORE.

THE TOP REASON FOR DISSATISFACTION WAS SLOW SPEEDS WHICH GOES BACK TO THE POINT OF WE MAY HAVE 99% ACCESS BUT THE SLOW SPEEDS MAKE US FEEL LIKE WE HAVE NO ACCESS AT ALL. THAT WAS ONE.

HIGH PRICES AND UNRELIABLE CONNECTIONS.

AGAIN I THINK THESE ARE THE REASONS WHY YOU FEEL WHY YOU FEEL. AND I WILL TRY TO MAKE CLEARER FOR YOU IN THAT SO THE RESIDENTS CAN UNDERSTAND

THE NUMBERS. >> FOR THOSE THAT LOOK AT EXECUTIVE SUMMARY VERSION. LOOK AT THE ONE-PAGER AND

SEE 99.1% ACCESS. >> I WANT YOU TO FEEL GOOD

ABOUT THE NUMBERS. >> AND MORE THAN NINE OUT OF TEN HOUSEHOLDS SAID THEY WOULD LIKE TO HAVE ADDITIONAL OPTIONS. THAT'S REASONABLE.

>> MOVING ON TO THE NEXT PAGE.

WE WILL TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE INFRASTRUCTURE ITSELF. ACCORDING TO THE INITIAL RESULTS WE HAVE UNDERSERVED HOUSEHOLDS IN THE COUNTY 465 HOUSEHOLDS THAT DON'T HAVE 25 OVER 3.

THAT'S TODAY'S STANDARD CONSIDERED FAST INTERNET.

THAT'S NOT REALLY FAST INTERNET TODAY.

IF YOU HAVE BEEN KEEPING UP THE BROADBAND REPORTS THEY WILL CHANGE THAT. IT'S JUST A MATTER OF TIME.

WE'RE REALLY TALKING ABOUT 100 OVER 20.

THAT'S NOT OFFICIAL YES. THAT'S COMING.

FOR THE GRANT APPLICATIONS COMING OUT.

THEY ARE USING 100 OVER 20 25 OVER 3.RVED AS OPPOSED T- THAT WILL HELP YOU A LITTLE BIT IN QUALIFYING FOR COUPLE OF THINGS. HAYS COUNTY IS CONSIDERED CONNECTED AND SO IT'S JUST GOING TO BE HARDER.

>> PAM, MOST OF THE I KNOW AT LEAST TWO OR THREE OF THE PROVIDERS THAT WE REACHED OUT TO SPECIFIC TO THIS SURVEY THEY ARE BASE FOR BUSINESS.

THEY ARE BASE BUSINESS SERVICE IS 100 OVER 20.

>> THAT'S THE MINIMUM THEY WILL DO.

>> YES. >> THERE'S NO REASON TO DO ANYTHING LESS THAN THAT ANYMORE.

>> WE REALLY HOUSEHOLD AT 10 OVER 1 WHY PEOPLE FEEL THEY DON'T HAVE ACCESS WHEN THEY HAVE ACCESS IS ALMOST 100%.

WE'VE TALKED ABOUT 25-3. YOU HAVE A LITTLE BIT LESS THAN 55 AND THEN THE 110 IT SAYS THERE'S 95% OF THE HOUSEHOLDS THAT DO HAVE 100 OVER 10 WHICH IS CONSIDERED FAST ENOUGH TO RUN THOSE MODERN DAY APPLICATIONS TODAY. BELOW THE LIST OF THE SERVICE PROVIDERS THAT IN THE COUNTY.

THIS IS CHANGING EVERY DAY. I EVEN KNOW LOOKING THAT RIGHT NOW, THIS REPORT WAS DONE IN THE LAST TWO MONTHS.

THIS HAS CHANGED A LITTLE BIT.

BUT IT GIVES YOU AN IDEA WHAT'S OFFERED.

THERE'S A LOT OF FIXED WISHLESS.

THERE'S ALWAYS GOING TO BE FIXED WIRELESS.

BECAUSE YOU HAVE A LOT OF HILL COUNTRY.

AND FIBER IS JUST NOT GOING TO BE FEASIBLE IN SOME OF THOSE AREAS. THERE'S NOT A THING WRONG WITH GOOD FIXED WIRELESS. I CAN PROVIDE GOOD SPEEDS FOR YOU. YOU HAVE SOME CABLE.

A LOT OF CABLE AROUND TEXAS STATE CAMPUS.

WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT LATER. YOU HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF DSL LEFT. BUT FOR THE MOST PART IT'S

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FIXED WIRELESS. YOU CAN GO TO NEXT PAGE.

THANK YOU. THERE'S MORE PROVIDERS.

YOU HAVE A WHOLE LOT OF OPTIONS IN HAYS COUNTY.

THIS PARTICULAR MAP HERE IS WHAT YOU WOULD SEE IF YOU GO ON OUR SITE. OUR COUNTY SITE WEB SITE.

THE DARK GREEN AREA IS A MORE VERIFIED AREA, WE FEEL CERTAIN ABOUT THOSE NUMBERS. IF IT IS WHITE.

IT HAS NO INTERNET CONNECTION.

AND WHERE YOU SEE THE WHITE IS WHERE YOU WILL SEE THAT RECEIVED THE DIGITAL OPPORTUNITY FUNDING FROM THE FCC THAT IS WHERE THAT MONEY IS GOING TO GO.

BUT, AGAIN, THAT'S SHOWING YOU THAT 99% OF YOUR COUNTY HAS SPEEDS OF AT LEAST 25/3. THERE'S PLENTY OF GAP IN THERE. THE LIGHT GREEN IS INFORMATION THAT CAN ONLY BE RETRIEVED FROM THE FCC FORM 477. IT'S NOT AS RELIABLE AS THE OTHER INFORMATION. JUST THE BOTTOM PARAGRAPH TALKS ABOUT UNDERSTANDING BROADBAND INFRASTRUCTURE IN YOUR COUNTY, JUST TO HAVE ACCURATE MAPS.

YOU CANNOT SUPPLEMENT -- YOU CANNOT REPLACE ACCURATE MAPS. YOU NEED THE MAPS TO UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU HAVE AND HOW TO TALK TO PROVIDERS AND HOW TO GO FORWARD DIFFERENT GRANTS TO FILL IN THE GAP AREAS. SO MOVING ON, WE WILL TALK ABOUT INFRASTRUCTURE A LITTLE BIT.

BETWEEN MARCH AND JULY, WE SURVEYED 1469 RESIDENTS.

DATA FROM THE HAYS COUNTY ARE COMPARED TO DATA FROM HUNDREDS OF OTHER COMMUNITIES THAT PARTICIPATED AND THAT'S NOT JUST IN TEXAS.

IT'S IN MICHIGAN AND OHIO. >> YES, SIR.

>> WHEN YOU SURVEY THE RESIDENTS HOW MANY DOORS

WERE KNOCKED ON? >> NO DOORS WERE KNOCKED ON.

>> IT'S ALL DONE THROUGH COMMUNICATION.

>> FOR EXAMPLE, I PASSED OUT AT EVERY PUBLIC MEETING I HAD I PASSED OUT CARDS PRODUCED BY CONNECTED NATION AND OUR COUNTYWIDE OPERATIONS STAFF.

AND I THINK I HANDED OUT AND PUBLIC MEETING SOMEWHERE

AROUND 800 CARDS. >> YES.

>> I APPRECIATE THAT. >> AND I KNOW THAT THESE GUYS DID SIMILAR THINGS. AND THANK YOU FOR SHARING ON YOUR SOCIAL MEDIA. I DID IT PROBABLY 20 TIMES.

>> I ALSO PROVIDED SIMONE AND I'M SURE YOU HAVE IT THE DIFFERENT -- WE PINPOINTED THE LOCATIONS IN BY THE SURVEY INFORMATION IS COMING IN.

IT'S ALL OVER THE COUNTY. >> THIS IS NOT INTENDED TO BE A JAB ON ANYONE. NOT YOUR WORK OR MINE OR NO ONE'S. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T SAY WE DID A BROADBAND SURVEY ON THE

INTERNET. >> I'M VERY AWARE OF THE

SOUNDING OF THAT. >> BUT WE ALSO DID HAVE PAPER SURVEYS FOR THOSE WHO DIDN'T HAVE INTERNET THAT WE

TRIED TO GET OUT. >> WE ALL DID WHAT WE COULD.

I JUST WANT TO UNDERSTAND THE DEPTH OF REACH.

>> YES, SIR. ABSOLUTELY.

HARDEST PEOPLE TO REACH ARE THE PEOPLE WE NEED TO BE REACHING TO PROVIDE THIS INTERNET.

ABSOLUTELY. >> I CANNOT AGREE WITH YOU MORE. THAT DOESN'T PASS US OVER AT CONNECTEDNATION THAT WE HAVE TO DO THIS.

>> TO REACH THE UNREACHABLE. >> ABSOLUTELY.

>> AS WE TALKED A LITTLE BI COUNTY IS AT 66.4%.

OF THE PEOPLE WHO TOOK THE SURVEY, HAD FIXED INTERNET -- HAVE ADOPTED. AGAIN IF YOU HAVE ALMOST 100% ACCESS AND YOU HAVE 66.4% ADOPTION FILLS A LITTLE BIT ALTHOUGH FOR ME IN HAYS COUNTY.

THIS DOESN'T MEAN MOBILE SERVICE OR SATELLITE SERVICES. THIS IS FIXED.

LEADS ABOUT 5.5% WITH OUT INTERNET.

THE RESPONDENT INSURE WHAT SERVICE THEY HAD WHICH MAKES SENSE. NOT EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS HOW TO ANSWER THE QUESTIONS. WE LEAVE THAT OPTION TO PUT I DON'T KNOW. THOSE WITHOUT INTERNET CONNECTION 18.5% SAID THEY DIDN'T HAVE BROADBAND BECAUSE TOO EXPENSIVE. 59% SAID THAT SERVICE WASN'T AVAILABLE. GOES BACK TO JUDGE'S POINT.

PEOPLE DON'T FEEL THEY HAVE ACCESS.

IT'S 10/1 IN IT'S BAD RELIABILITY THEY PROBABLY MARK THEY DON'T HAVE ACCESS. THAT WHAT IT FEELS LIKE.

>> CAN YOU SCROLL TO THE NEXT CHART, PLEASE.

>> PRIMARY BARRIERS, RIGHT THERE.

WE TRY TO MAKE EVERYTHING VISUAL.

WE KNOW THESE ARE A LOT OF NUMBERS.

AS COMPARED TO OTHER COMMUNITIES, EXPENSIVE BUT THE PRIMARY ONE HERE IS SERVICES NOT AVAILABLE.

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MOVING TO THE BOTTOM -- JUST -- NOT THE BOTTOM. MOVING TO THE NEXT PAGE.

YOU CAN SEE YOUR CONNECTION DETAILS.

WE TALK ABOUT MONTHLY COST. 2% OF MONTHLY INCOME IS RECOGNIZED STANDARD FOR AFFORDABILITY OF HOME INTERNET CONNECTION. INDICATED THEY ARE PAYING $85.23 PER MONTH. THIS IS HIGHER THAN MONTHLY COST PAID BY OTHER COMMUNITIES.

AND THESE COMMUNITIES FOR THE MOST PART ARE RURAL COMMUNITIES. VERY RURAL COMMUNITIES.

YOU MAY BE CONSIDERED A LARGER COMMUNITY THAN THOSE RURAL COMMUNITIES. THE MEDIAN HOUSEHOLD IS $14. I ADVICE YOU TO REMEMBER THAT AVERAGE SO HALF OF THOSE PEOPLE ARE NOT MAKING 114 DOLLARS A MONTH. IT'S A BURDEN FOR THEM TO HAVE INTERNET SERVICE. AS A REMINDER.

FCC DEFINES BROADBAND WITH DOWNLOAD OF 25 AND UP LOAD OF 3 ON AVERAGE. RESPONDENT INDICATED THEY HAVE ABOUT 45MEGABITS PER SECOND DOWNLOAD.

YOU'RE HIGHER THAN AVERAGE. BUT 45 REALLY ISN'T GOING TO

GET YOU TOO FAR. >> FINAL CHART JUST EVERYTHING WE TALKED ABOUT. DOES YOUR INTERNET MEET YOUR NEEDS. YOU HAVE 54% SAY NO.

THAT'S A LITTLE BIT LESS THAN THE AVERAGE.

AND SPEEDS ARE TOO CLOSE. 82% WHICH I CAN BELIEVE.

MY CONNECTION IS UNRELIABLE. 72%.

AND PRICES ARE TOO HIGH. JUDGE THOSE FIRST TWO WILL ANSWER STILL YOUR QUESTION ABOUT THE 99% AVAILABILITY OF THAT. THEY FEEL THE RELIABILITY AND SPEEDS ARE TOO SLOW. SO THEY DON'T HAVE IT IN THEIR MIND. ARE YOU INTERESTED IN MORE CHOICES. OF COURSE, 94% ARE

INTERESTED IN MORE CHOICES. >>THE BOTTOM OF THE SECOND PAGE, THE TOP IS THE WRITTEN DOCUMENT TO THE PREVIOUS CHART. WE WILL GO DOWN TO MOBILE CONNECTIVITY. THEY REPORTED THEY SUBSCRIBE TO MOBILE INTERNET SERVICE. THIS IS A LITTLE BIT LESS THAN WHAT'S REPORTED IN OTHER CONNECTED COMMUNITIES WHICH IS 70.5%. ADDITIONALLY 17.4 #% OF MOBILE CONNECTED HOUSEHOLD REPORT THEY RELY ON THAT CONNECTION AS THEIR INTERNET CONNECTION OR THEY ARE USING THAT CONNECTION TO RUN OTHER DEVICES IN THEIR HOUSEHOLD TO RECEIVE THE INTERNET. I CAN BELIEVE THAT.

MOVING ON. WE TALK ABOUT TELEWORK A LITTLE BIT. THAT REFERS TO OUTSIDE WORKPLACE. IT'S NO LONGER INSIDE AN OFFICE. WE KNOW THE PANDEMIC SPURRED THAT ON. AND COMPANIES ARE REALLY NOT GOING BACK. THERE'S A LOT OF FOR SALE REAL ESTATE EVERYWHERE. IT'S CHEAPER IF YOU CAN WORK YOUR PEOPLE AT HOME. IT JUST IS.

I WORK FROM HOME. I'VE WORKED IN EVERY KIND OF OFFICE YOU CAN IMAGINE. IT WOULD BE HARD FOR ME TO GO BACK TO FIVE DAY A WEEK OFFICE.

I UNDERSTAND THESE STATUS PRETTY WELL.

>> YOU CAN TEND TO THE CHICKENS MORE QUICKLY.

I WILL BE BACK IN FIVE MINUTES.

>> THE REST OF THAT TELE WORK IS QUICKLY BECOMING A CRITICAL GROWING FOR THE ECONOMY AND WE ALL KNOW THAT. DO YOU CURRENTLY TELE WORK.

74% CURRENTLY TELE WORK. THAT'S A HIGH NUMBER.

THAT'S A REALLY A VERY IMPORTANT STEP FOR RURAL COMMUNITIES. I REALIZE THAT YOU ARE NOT AS RURAL AS RURAL CAN BE. THIS KEEPS PEOPLE IN THEIR COMMUNITIES. THEY CAN STILL LIVE WORK AND PLAY HERE AND SPEND THEIR MONEY HERE AND BUY THEIR HOMES HERE AND SEND THEIR KIDS TO SCHOOL HERE.

THIS REALLY IMPORTANT FOR RURAL COMMUNITIES.

BECAUSE THE GROWTH AND THE JUST EXISTENCE OF RURAL COMMUNITIES. IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT.

THE PANDEMIC AND I'M SURE I SHARED THIS BEFORE.

THE PANDEMIC REALLY HAS MOVED A LOT OF PEOPLE OUT OF THE URBAN AREAS INTO THE RURAL AREAS FOR JUST THE QUALITY OF LIFE DIFFERENCE. JUST THE SLOWINGDOWN AND BEING ABLE TO WORK HERE AND WORK OUT OF SAN FRANCISCO.

MY DAUGHTER JUST GOT REMOTE JOB HEADQUARTERS IS SAN FRANCISCO. SHE WILL BE LIVING HERE.

IT'S A REALLY BIG BOOM FOR THOSE DOING IT WELL.

YOU HAVE THE INTERNET CONNECTION TO ALLOW THEIR PEOPLE TO DO IT. IT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT HAPPENED THAT WOULD HAVE NEVER HAPPENED WITHOUT THE PANDEMIC. OR NOT AS QUICK AS IT HAS.

WE'LL PUT IT THAT WAY. AND HOW FREQUENTLY DO YOU TELE WORK. JUST BIG NUMBERS.

THOSE ARE JUST BIG NUMBERS OF TELE WORKING PEOPLE.

MOVING ON TO THE RECOMMENDATION.

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THIS THE PART THAT THESE ARE JUST RECOMMENDATIONS.

REALLY WHAT THEY ARE WEST PRACTICES.

IT'S WHAT EVERY COMMUNITY SHOULD BE DOING OR WORKING TOWARD OF WHAT FITS FOR THEM.

THESE ARE THE IDEAS OF HOW TO WORK.

IF YOU DO THESE, YOU WILL HAVE SUCCESS.

YOU WILL GO BE ON THE ROAD TO SUCCESS.

IF YOU DON'T DO THEM. IT'S COMPLETELY UP TO YOU.

I HAVE SEEN AND I'M WATCHING SAN ANTONIO RIGHT NOW THAT HAVE DONE A LOT OF THESE AND THEY ARE JUST BLOSSOMING IN THE INTERNET. BECAUSE THE ATTENTION HAS BEEN BROUGHT TO US. IT'S JUST REPEAT OF THE BEGINNING. THE TEXAS BROADBAND PLAN WAS PUBLISHED JUNE 2022. THAT IS NOT SO MUCH AS THE PLAN AS A DOCUMENT THAT REALLY OUTLINES EXACTLY WHAT IS GOING ON IN TEXAS IN THE BROADBAND WORLD.

THERE'S A LOT OF PLANNING THAT WILL BE DONE BASED ON THAT PLAN. THAT PLAN IS AT THE COMPTROLLERS OFFICE AND WE HAVE BROADBAND OFFICE NOW.

WE WERE ONE OF THE LAST STATES TO GET THERE.

REAFFIRMED WHAT WE KNOW TO BE TRUE.

BROADBAND IS FOUNDATION OF JOB CREATION, EDUCATIONAL OPPORTUNITIES, GLOBAL COMPETITIVENESS AND BETTER CARE IN THE HEALTHCARE INDUSTRY.

THE PANDEMIC HIGHLIGHTED THE STORIES.

WE'RE NEVER GOING TO FORGET SEEING STUDENTS SIT OUTSIDE LIBRARIES AND MCDONALDS DOING THEIR HOMEWORK EVERY DAY. WE WILL NOT FORGET MOM AND DAD WHO COULDN'T GET TO DOCTOR BECAUSE OF THE PAN EMIC AND WE NEEDED TO GET SOME TYPE OF HELP AND WHAT WAS -- WHAT CAME OUT OF THAT WAS THE TELE HEALTH WORLD.

ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS THAT PRETTY MUCH RECOMMEND UNILATERALLY TO ALL OF OUR COMMUNITIES IS TO HAVE SOME TYPE OF BROADBAND LEADERSHIP IN HAYS COUNTY.

BY MAKING IT PERMANENT. YOU'VE GOT IT.

HAYS COUNTY IS QUITE LUCKY. IF SHE DOESN'T KNOW THE ANSWER, SHE KNOWS HOW TO GET THE ANSWER.

SINCE WE GOT THAT OFFICE DEVELOPED.

WE NEED TO MAKE IT PERMANENT.

A RESOLUTION. I UNDERSTAND THAT YOU ALSO HAVE SOMETHING CALLED 2025 -- VISION 2025 THAT HAS COMPONENT OF BROADBAND IN THERE.

THAT'S GREAT TOO. YOU WANT TO MAKE SURE THE BROADBAND SECTION IS STAND ALONE THAT PEOPLE KNOW WHEN THEY MOVE TO HAYS COUNTY. THEY CAN LOOK ON THIS WEB SITE AND FIND EVERYTHING THEY NEED TO KNOW ABOUT BROADBAND. ALL THE PROVIDERS, AND WHAT THEY PROVIDING. WHO TO CALL FOR SERVICE IF YOU NEED SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

AGAIN IT'S THE BEST PRACTICE TO ESTABLISH A TECHNOLOGY ACTION TEAM. AS THE FIRST PART SAY OBJECTIVE TO ESTABLISH THAT TECHNOLOGY TEAM IN HAYS COUNTY THAT CAN SERVICE AS GO-TO POINT FOR CONTACT, MEETINGS AND PROJECT. WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? YOU WANT IT TO LOOK LIKE YOUR COUNTY.

YOU WANT TO HAVE LOTS OF VOICES ON THIS.

THE SAME AS WHAT THE TECHNOLOGY ACTION TEAM HAD.

IF YOU GO TO THE NEXT PAGE YOU WILL SEE THAT YOU WANT HEALTHCARE. PROVIDERS ON THERE.

YOU WANT EDUCATION PROVIDERS ON THERE.

HIGHER EDUCATION, ESPECIALLY IN SAN MARCOS ON THERE.

PUBLIC SAFETY OFFICIALS ON THERE.

AGRICULTURE, BUSINESS, NONPROFITS AND COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS AND COMMUNITY AT-LARGE.

I HAVE GIVEN YOU SOME EXAMPLE FOR ALL OF THOSE PEOPLE. WHAT SHOULD THE TEAM BE DOING? THEY SHOULD STAY UP-TO-DATE ON THE FEDERAL AND BROADBAND TECHNOLOGY.

I CAN'T TELL YOU HOW IMPORTANT THAT IS.

THEY WILL MIRROR THE FCC. THEY WRITE THE GRANTS TLAU THE STATE OFFICE TO BE DISSEMINATED FROM THERE.

THOSE GRANTS HAVE LOTS AND LOTS OF PIECES AND PARTS TO THEM AND SO YOU REALLY NEED TO STAY IN CONTACT WITH YOUR LOCAL BROADBAND OFFICE, YOUR LOCAL LEGISLATURES, ON WHAT YOU ARE QUALIFYING FOR. HOW CAN THEY ADVOCATE AND HELP YOU. HOW YOU CAN BE PART OF THE MONEY COMING OUT. THOSE PROVIDERS HAVE TO HAVE PARTNERSHIPS WITH COUNTIES. THEY HAVE TO COUNTIES AND OTHER ENTITIES SIGNING ON THAT YES, INDEED THEY WILL USE THE SERVICES. THEY NEED THE SERVICES AND YOU SUPPORT THE SERVICES. BROADBAND PROVIDERS JUST DON'T TAKE THE MONEY AND DO WHAT THEY WANT TO DO WITH THEY HAVE TO HAVE PARTNERSHIPS.

IF YOU HAVEN'T -- IF BROADBAND PROVIDER HAVEN'T APPROACHED YOU, THEY MAY FEEL LIE YOU WOULDN'T QUALIFY. THERE'S SOME GRANTS THAT YOU QUALIFY FOR. YOU JUST NEED TO BE READY FOR THAT AND STAY IN TUNED WITH THAT OFFICE.

SAME THING APPLYING FOR THE GRANT.

INSURING DIGITAL ENGAGEMENT IN HAYS COUNTY AND ALL COMMUNITY SECTORS. YOUR TELE HEALTH.

WIFI AND BUSINESS. THEY CAN ATTEND WORKSHOPS, WEBINARS AND MEETINGS. I DON'T KNOW ABOUT YOU GUYS

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ONE THING I ATTEND ARE WEBINARS.

PROBABLY FOUR OR FIVE WEEKS. WITH ARE GREAT.

I DON'T HAVE TO TRAVEL TO DIFFERENT STATES AND DIFFERENT PLACES AND TAKE A WHOLE WEEK OF LEARNING.

I CAN DO WHAT USED TO TAKE ME A WEEK TO LEARN IN TWO HOURS. BUT YOU NEED SOMEONE THAT CAN BE CONSTANTLY BE ENGAGED IN DOING THAT KIND OF LEARNING. RIGHT NOW THE DIGITAL WORLD IS JUST CHANGING EVERY DAY. THEY CAN HELP PROVIDE DIG DIGITAL LITERACY TO THOSE MOST AT RISK. PARTICIPATE IN REGULAR MEETING. GIVE YOU UPDATES WHENEVER YOU PREFER, WHAT HAPPENED SINCE WE LAST TALKED IN THE BROADBAND WORLD. DID WE GET PROVIDER IN TOWN.

THEY CAN KEEP UP WITH ALL OF THAT KIND OF INFORMATION FOR YOU. AND THEN JUST TALKS ABOUT THE TEAM MEETING ONCE AEN MOTHER.

ON ACTION TWO CONTINUE TO UPDATE HAYS COUNTY PORTAL WEB SITE. I USE YOUR WEB SITE THAT SIMONE AND HER GROUP CREATED ABOUT THE BROADBAND SURVEY AS EXAMPLE TO MANY COMMUNITIES.

IT WAS A GREAT PLACE FOR PEOPLE TO GO AND UNDERSTAND WHAT IS GOING ON AND WHEN THE COMMUNITY UNDERSTANDS THAT'S THERE. THEY WILL USE IT MORE OFTEN.

I RECOMMEND THAT YOU MAKE THAT A PERMANENT SITE.

ONE-STOP SHOT FOR ANYTHING BROADBAND.

I COULD BE MEETING DATES. THE LATEST FROM THE BROADBAND OFFICE. JUST A PLACE WHERE PEOPLE CAN GO AND LEARN ABOUT BROADBAND AND IT CAN BE THE GRAPHS THAT I PUT ON HERE. JUST ANY INFORMATION THAT YOU WANT. BUT I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT YOU -- SINCE YOU GOT THAT WEB SITE TO GO AHEAD AND PROMOTE IT AND MAKE IT PERMANENT.

>> I'M SURE YOU WOULD BE WILLING TO SHARE THE DATA YOU DID ON THIS AS FAR AS THE MAPPING.

AND WITH MARCUS HERE OUR DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT SERVICES THE QUESTION I HAVE THE AS WE HAVE COMMUNITIES COME IN AND DO THEIR DEVELOPMENT, THEIR DEVELOPMENT PERMITTING WE DON'T HAVE IF THEY ARE PROVIDING OR IF THERE WILL BE BROADBAND SERVICE IN SUBDIVISIONS. I KNOW WE LOOK AT UTILITIES ON SOME OF THOSE. MY QUESTION WOULD BE IS THERE AVAILABILITY AS WE -- WE'RE LOOKING AT CHANGING THE RULES AND REGULATIONS.

BUT ON THE ACTUAL FORMS THAT THEY FILL OUT IS THERE THE AVAILABILITY FOR US TO JUST ASK, WILL THERE BE BROADBAND SERVICE FOR THE COMMUNITY OR FOR THE HOMES COMING IN.

AT THAT POINT, IF WE HAVE THE MAP THAT'S COUNTYWIDE WE CAN PROVIDE THAT DATA OR CONSOLIDATE THAT DATA AND UPDATE ALMOST ON A CONTINUAL BASIS.

DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? >> WE CAN INCLUDE THAT QUESTION OR ACTUAL SUBDIVISION APPLICATION.

WE MAY BE ABLE TO TAKE THE GIS DATA THAT YOU HAVE POVIDED IN THE MAPPING THAT YOU'VE DONE AND JUST HAVE

CONTINUAL UPDATE OF IT. >> THAT WOULD BE GREAT.

ONE PLACE THEY CAN FIND IT ON THE COUNTY WEB SITE IS BENEFICIAL TO PEOPLE MOVING IN.

THE QUESTION WE GET AND WE GET MANY A DAY THE MOVING TO

ADDRESS. >> MANY PEOPLE HAVE TO WALK AWAY FROM THEIR DREAM AREA OF LIVING IN THE COUNTRY SO TO SPEAK. BECAUSE THERE'S NO INTERNET SERVICE. MORE INFORMATION YOU CAN PROVIDE THE BETTER YOU CAN BE.

ACTION THREE IS JUST TALKING ABOUT TRACKING STATE AND NATIONAL BROADBAND. YOU WANT YOUR POLICIES TO BARE THAT STATE THE STATE WILL MIRROR THAT FCC AND IT WILL MAKE IT MUCH SMOOTHER TRANSACTION.

YOU ALREADY STARTING DO THISSING.

BUILDING THE RELATIONSHIP WITH THOSE INTERNET SERVICE PROVIDEDERS. STARTING WITH THE RURAL DIGITAL OPPORTUNITY FUND WINNERS.

I REPEAT THERE THAT THE TWO ITEM THAT HAVE BEEN TENTATIVELY AWARDED MONEY TO DEPLOY.

AND ALL STATES THAT TEXAS WASN'T MENTIONED.

I'M ASSUMING WE'RE IN TEXAS. I WAS BEING CONTACTED BECAUSE I'M NOT SURE HOW THAT WILL SPAN OUT AT THIS

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POINT. RESOUND NETWORKS, THEY HAVE NOT BEEN APPROVED EITHER. BUT THEY HAVEN'T BEEN NOT APPROVED. WE'RE STILL A GO FOR THEM.

THEY ARE RECEIVING 1,200,000, AND THE AREA THAT, THAT WILL BE SPENT CAN BE FOUND AT THE MAP LINK I PROVIDED THERE. WE HAVE A LOT OF MAPPING.

BECAUSE WE ALSO CAME IN AND DID OUR OWN FIELD VALUE VALIDATION. THAT WILL BE ON YOUR PORTAL.

YOU WILL SEE A LOT OF ADDITIONAL INFORMATION.

A LOT OF ADDITIONAL INFORMATION THAT'S GOING TO BE VERY HELPFUL TO PROVIDERS AND PEOPLE MOVING INTO THOSE AREAS. ESTABLISHING RELATIONSHIPS WITH ISP'S ABOUT HAVING CONVERSATIONS.

YOU HAVE GOT SOME CONVERSATIONS TO HAVE AS THE JUDGE POINTED OUT. PEOPLE DON'T FEEL THEY HAVE INTERNET SERVICE WHERE THEY MAY HAVE INTERNET SERVICE.

WE HAVE TO DO SOME BRIDGING THE GAP OF SLOW SPEEDS AND ALL RELIABILITY. AND TALK TO THE PROVIDER WHERE WE SEE THE INFORMATION COME FROM.

WHEN YOU SEE SOME OF THE QUESTIONS MAPPED ON THE MAP, YOU WILL SEE WHERE SOME OF THOSE ANSWERS WERE COMING FROM. THIS IS JUST A LIST.

AND I KIND OF GIVE YOU A LINK IF YOU WANT TO LOOK AT THEM. OF THE DIFFERENT ISP PROVIDERS IN YOUR COUNTY. I TRY TO GIVE YOU THE LATEST ONES THERE. YOU WILL NOTICE AT THE BOTTOM YOU CAN GO TO THE NEXT PAGE, PLEASE.

I HAVE GIVEN YOU LOTS AND LOTS OF RESOURCES.

I'M NOT ASKING YOU TO GO BUILD A ROAD HERE.

I'M TELLING YOU THESE PEOPLE HAVE DONE IT.

IT'S A GREAT WE RESOURCES HOW TO DO IT.

THERE'S SOME GREAT EXAMPLES AND I JUST GAVE YOU A LOT OF THEM. WHATEVER YOU LIKE TO READ,

YOU CAN READ. >> MOVING ON GOAL 2.

SUPPORT DEVELOPMENT AND WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT.

THIS IS A HOLISTIC APPROACH TO BROADBAND.

IT'S ABOUT HOW WE USE TO IMPROVE OUR DAILY LIVES.

TO USE THEM WE HAVE TO ADOPT THE INTERNET ITSELF.

THE OBJECTIVE TO PROVIDE COUNTYWIDE APPROACH WITH CONSISTENT CURRICULA TO MOST LITERACY AND VERIFY ALL RESIDENT HAVE ACCESS TO THIS INFORMATION.

AND WAY YOU CAN DO THIS IS TO OFFER STANDARDIZED DIG TAT DIGITAL PROGRAMS. I HAD A CONVERSATION WITH CENTRAL TEXAS WORKFORCE SOLUTION.

THEY HAD GREAT CURRICULA ON WORKFORCE TRAINING.

RESUME BUILDING, ON HOW TO USE THE INTERNET.

I ASKED HER COULD WE SHARE THAT CURRICULA WITH LIBRARIES SINCE IT'S COUNTY APPROVED CURRICULA.

SHE SAID SURE. THAT'S A GREAT IDEA.

HOPEFULLY WE WILL SEE THAT MOVING FORWARD.

IT'S FREE TO ALL THE RESIDENTS OF HAYS COUNTY AND THE SAME CURRICULA. WHEN THEY NEED HELP THEY CAN CALL WORKFORCE SOLUTIONS TO GO AHEAD AND DO MORE WITH THAT CURRICULA. IT'S REGIONAL IDEAS LIKE THAT WILL MOVE THE COUNTY FORWARD AND THOSE THAT DON'T KNOW SERVICES ARE OUT THERE. WORKFORCE SOLUTION AND WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENTS ARE THE MOST FANTASTIC THINGS IN THE COUNTY. BUT IF YOU GO ASK THE COMMON CITIZEN, THEY HAVE NO IDEA THEY EXIST.

IT'S -- WE REALLY HAVE TO PROMOTE THEM AND EDUCATE THE COMMUNITY OVER AND OVER AGAIN.

ANOTHER GREAT USE FOR THAT WEB PAGE TO DO WHAT THEY CAN DO FOR YOU AND WHAT KIND OF HLP.

I GET THE IRONY OF HAVING PEOPLE LOOK ON A WEB PAGE.

BUT WE HAVE TO START SOMEWHERE.

OUR LIBRARIES CAN CERTAINLY PROMOTE THAT TOO.

GOING ON TO ACTION 2 WHICH IS JUST MENTIONED MARKETING TO LOCAL NONPROFITS AND FOR-PROFIT ORGANIZATION THAT DO OFFER FREE DIGITAL TRAINING AND WORKFORCE SKILLS DEVELOPMENT PROGRAMS. SOME CONSTANTLY MARKET.

THEY COULD BE CHAMBERS OF COMMERCE.

LIBRARIES ARE IMPORTANT. YOU MAY WANT PUBLIC CENTERS AROUND THAT PEOPLE CAN GO TO.

YOU GOT PUBLIC SPACES THAT COULD BE USED FOR THAT.

I GAVE YOU THE LIST. THE LIBRARIES OFFER SOME TRAINING. LINKED IN CURRICULA, IT HAS A COMMUNITY ROOM AVAILABLE. THOSE COMMUNITY ROOMS ARE FANTASTIC TO OFFER TELE MEDICINE.

CERTAIN POINTS OF THE DAY PEOPLE CAN SIGN IN, MAKE AN APPOINTMENT. HAVE PRIVACY IN THE ROOMS AND NOTIFY THE DOCTOR IF THERE'S A TELE APPOINTMENT.

THE LIBRARIES HAVE SET THAT UP.

THAT'S SUCCESSFUL IN RURAL COMMUNITIES.

THERE'S A CLASS THEY ALSO HAVE ONE THAT COST ABOUT 75.

SAN MARCOS PUBLIC LIBRARY HAS 44% ACCESS COMPUTERS WITH SOFTWARE AND FREE WIFI AND OFFERS TECH HELP.

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THAT'S EVERY MONTH. I'VE BEEN TRYING TO FOLLOW THAT TO MAKE SURE IT'S EVERY MONTH.

THEY HELP WITH RESUME BUILDING.

GETTING THE G-MAIL ACCOUNTS. GREAT SERVICE THERE.

IT'S REALLY A MATTER OF TAKING AN AUDIT.

IS IT OPEN ENOUGH HOURS. IS THERE SATURDAY HOURS.

DO THEY HAVE ENOUGH MONEY TO PUBLICIZE THE SERVICES TO GET PEOPLE IN WHO NEED THE SERVICES TO USE THOSE SERVICES. YOU GOT AMERICAN RED CROSS IN TEXAS. THE WORKFORCE SOLUTION IN CENTRAL TEXAS A VARIETY OF CURRICULA.

CHAMBER OF COMMERCE IS GREAT PLACE FOR BUSINESS.

PEOPLE COMING INTO YOUR CITY THAT WANTS TO OPEN A BUSINESS TO LEARN HOW TO USE THE COMPUTER.

SOUTH SIDE COMMUNITY CENTER. COMMUNITIES IN SCHOOL AND TEXAS IS HERE. AND THE LAST ONE I WOULD TALK TO SIMONE ABOUT THAT AS NEW INITIATIVE.

WHICH YOU GUYS MAYBE TAKE ADVANTAGE OF.

I WAS SUPPOSED TO LUNCH ON THE 10TH.

IT HASN'T EXACTLY LAUNCHED YET.

I WILL SKIP OVER THAT NOW. ON ACTION 3 OFFERING WORKSHOPS, SKILLS THAT VALUED BY LOCAL EMPLOYERS AND OF INTEREST TO THE COMMUNITY.

YOU CAN DO COURSES ON THE INTRODUCTION OF MICROSOFT OFFICE SUITE. THIS HOW TO TRAIN PEOPLE ON THE BASIS OF MICROSOFT OFFICE.

CHAMBERS OF COMMERCE, A GREAT PLACE THAT SHOULD BE A HOST OF THIS KIND OF WORK. THIS KIND OF BUILDING PEOPLE'S CONFIDENCE ON THE COMPUTER.

THERE'S OTHER ONES. HOW TO TELE CONFERENCE IS IMPORTANT. THE CHAMBERS WOULD BE IMPORTANT THERE. IN INTRODUCTION TO SOCIAL MEDIA.

THERE'S ALL KINDS OF TELE HEALTH PROGRAMS. 101 WHICH DISCUSSES THE TERMINOLOGY ASSOCIATED.

LOCAL HOSPITALS WOULD BE A GREAT PLACE TO HAVE ACCESS TO THAT TRAINING FOR YOUR AREA.

ONLINE SAFETY TIPS. A GREAT THINGS FOR SHERIFF'S OFFICE, CONSTABLE OFFICE, PILOT PATROL, TO OFFER OUT OF THEIR AREA. EFFECTIVE ONLINE LEARNING AND TEACHING STRATEGIES. KIDS CAN GET INTERNET TRAINING AND UNDERSTAND THEY HAVE.

THOSE ARE DIFFERENT IDEAS AND DIFFERENT COURSES THAT CAN BE TAUGHT. I WILL GIVE YOU PLENTY OF RESOURCES TO LOOK AT. IF ANY OF THESE APPEAL TO YOU TO START IN YOUR OWN COMMUNITY.

CLASSES SHOULD BE OFFERED IN THE FALL OF 2020 AND 202.

FREE WIFI SERVICES IN PUBLIC AREA AND PROVIDE RESOURCES TO LOW COST BROADBAND OPTION.

YOUR OBJECTIVE TO PROVIDE FREE WIFI IN PUBLIC PLACES.

IN HAYS COUNTY 5.5% OF SURVEY PARTICIPANTS DON'T HAVEN INTERNET CONNECTION. AND EVEN THOUGH THAT SEEMS LOW, THE HIGHER THE POPULATION THE MORE PEOPLE THAT REALLY BECOME. IT BECOMES A NUMBER.

OF THOSE HOUSEHOLDS 18.5 INDICATE THEY DON'T HAVE INTERNET. BECAUSE IT'S JUST TOO EXPENSIVE. OF THOSE WHO CONNECTION 55% ARE DISSATISFIED. COST IS FACTOR.

OTHER REASONS FOR DISSATISFACTION UNRELIABLE CONNECTION OR SLOW SPEED. PLAN TO CONNECT TO RELIABLE AND AFFORDABLE INTERNET. HAYS COUNTY COULD LEAD THE REGION. YOU ARE SO PERFECT I WILL

PERFECTLY LOCATED. >> THE PERFECT STORM BUT IN A GOOD WAY. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY TAKES ADVANTAGE OF THAT.

NOT JUST THOSE THAT CAN'T AFFORD IT.

YOU WANT TO MAKE SURE IN THE DEEPEST PART OF THE HILL COUNTRY. THEY CAN TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE INTERNET. BECAUSE EVERYBODY DESERVES THAT. WE WANT TO PROMOTE THE PROGRAMS THAT HELP RESIDENT OVERCOME BRED BAND ADOPTION.

THERE'S SOME REALLY GOOD PROGRAMS OUT THERE THAT WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE ALWAYS PROMOTING.

ONE OF THE RESOURCES TO LOCATE AFFORDABLE INTERNET SERVICE IS CALLED EVERY ONE ON.

I'VE GIVEN YOU THE LINK THERE.

IT HELPS RESIDENT LOW-COST SERVICE AND AFFORDABLE COMPUTERS BY ZIP CODES. THEY WILL TELL YOU WHERE THEY CAN GO TO LOCATE THAT SERVICE.

THAT NEEDS TO BE PROMOTED. INFORMATION ABOUT LOW-COST INTERNET SERVICES OFFERED BY PROVIDER NEED TO BE PROVIDED MORE. IT NEEDS TO BE PROMOTED BY USE FOR THE WEB SITE TO PUT THE PROGRAMS LISTED ON THERE. YOU HAVE ACCESS FROM AT&T; YOU HAVE CHARTER, THAT OFFERED SOME LOW-COST INTERNET. ALWAYS AVAILABILITY IN THE SERVICES CHANGE ALL THE TIME.

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BUT THEY ARE AVAILABLE. YOU'VE GOT A LOT OF STATE AND FEDERAL PROGRAM. YOU HAVE THE LIFELINE PROGRAM. ADMINISTERED BY PUBLIC UTILITY COMMISSION OF TEXAS AND PROVIDES A DISCOUNT TO QUALIFYING LOW-INCOME CUSTOMERS TO SUBSCRIBE TO VOICE TELEPHONE AND BROADBAND THESE DAYS.

YOU HAVE THE AFFORDABLE CONNECTIVITY PROGRAM.

WE RELAUNCHED THE PROGRAM LAST WEEK.

TWO NEW PROGRAMS TO RELAUNCH THE SAME PROGRAM.

THIS IS GREAT PROGRAM TO GET PEOPLE CONNECTED TO THE INTERNET. IT WILL PROVIDE UP TO $30 A MONTH TO THE PROVIDER TO PROVIDE THE INTERNET TO A CUSTOMER. IT'S EASY TO IMRI APPLY FOR.

THE QUALIFICATIONS ARE EASY. IF THAT CHILD IS ON FREE REDUCED LUNCH. SOCIAL SECURITY, THE FAMILY QUALIFIED. THE SNAP PROGRAM.

ANY OF THOSE PROGRAMS IF YOU GO ON TO THAT SITE IT WILL TELL YOU THE QUALIFICATION THAT'S REALLY, REALLY EASY.

AND ALSO WILL HELP BUY A DEVICE, UP TO $100 FOR THAT STUDENT OR THAT HOME. IT'S THE PROGRAM THAT WE CERTAINLY NEED TO BE PROMOTING AS MUCH AS WE CAN.

THE SECTION IS TO MAKE PUBLIC WIF LOCATIONS AVAILABLE THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY.

WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT THAT. I DON'T WANT TO RE-CREATE THAT AGAIN. BUT IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT THAT WE CREATE HOT SPOTS AND AREAS THAT PEOPLE WANT TO VISIT. ONE OF THE GREAT AREAS THAT YOU DON'T THINK ABOUT A LOT BUT YOU HAVE SOME GREAT RV PARKS BE I YOUR RIVERS HERE. PEOPLE WHO DO -- WHO ARE ON RV TRACK THESE DAYS NEED THEY ARE WORKING.

THEY ARE L THATTING -- TRAVELLING THE WORLD BUT THEY ARE WORKING. THEY NEED WIFI.

GREAT TO CREATE HOT SPOTS WHERE PEOPLE ATTEND RECREATIONAL ACTIVITY. SENIOR CENTERS THAT HOST PUBLIC COME POOUTING SYSTEM ON THE FIRST OPEN PUBLIC INTERNET ACCESS AND OTHER PUBLIC SPACE.

AS I REMEMBER PL WAY THAT THE COMMUNITY CAN HELP BRIDGE THE DIGITAL DIVIDE. IT'S NOT THAT EXPENSIVE AND EVERYBODY CAN BE PART OF THAT.

OTHER OPPORTUNITIES MAY EXIST WITH RELIGIOUS FACILITIES, SCHOOLS, LOCAL GOVERNMENT OFFICES.

RV PARKS AS I MENTIONED THAT THE AREA SERVE IN BOTH ENGLISH AND SPANISH. THE LAST GOAL IS JUST TALKING ABOUT TEXAS STATE UNIVERSITY.

I HAD THE PRIVILEGE OF WALKING AROUND WITH LANE WAGNER OF CONNECTED NATION WHEN THEY DID YOUR FIELD AUDIT. IST I WAS HERE FOR TWO DAYS IN THE HILL COUNTRY. IT'S SO INTERESTING TO WATCH THOSE GUYS OUT IS THERE WITH THEIR EQUIPMENT.

AND TELLING ME WHAT ALL THE LINES ARE.

BUT I WANTED TO MAKE SPECIAL TRIP INTO SAN MARCOS, BECAUSE WHEN SIMONE AND I WERE AT OUR DIFFERENT EVENTS, WE TALKED A LOT OF STUDENT.

THEY WERE TELLING US ONE AFTER ANOTHER THAT THEY JUST REALLY DIDN'T HAVE VERY GOOD CONNECTION IN THEIR APARTMENT. I KNOW THIS IS MAJOR UNIVERSITY. I KNOW THERE'S FIBER.

I KNOW THE CONNECTION IS THE BEST THAT IT CAN BE.

WE DID A STUDY AROUND THE TEXAS STATE UNIVERSITY.

WE FOUND OUT WHY. WE CONDUCTED THAT HIGH-LEVEL BROADBAND AUDIT. TO DETERMINE THE AVAILABILITY OF BROADBAND INFRASTRUCTURE ACCESS HAYS COUNTY. THIS ASSESSMENT FOR INFRASTRUCTURE THAT EXISTED ACROSS THE COUNTY TO DETERMINE HOW TO FILL IN THE GAPS.

AROUND TEXAS STATE WE FOUND THAT THE CAMPUS AT TSU HAD GREAT INTERNET. AS A MATTER OF FACT THEY ARE FOUR OR FIVE ON SITE. WHILE STUDENTS THAT LIVE OFF CAMPUS ONLY HYBRID FIBER COAXEL CABLE.

THE DIFFERENT IS QUITE DRAMATIC SPEED ESPECIALLY DURING HIGH TRAFFIC TIME. LET MY GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE.

WHEN THE YOUNG ADULTS ARE LEAVING THE TEXAS STATE CAMPUS THEY GO ACROSS THE STREET AND ALL THEY HAVE IS CABLE. CABLE IS GREAT.

BUT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT COLLEGE STUDENTS HERE.

THEY HAVE A PHONE. THEY HAVE A TELEVISION.

SMART TV, THEY WATCH ALL THEIR TV BY APPS.

WHO HAVE A PRINTER AND ARE ALL ON THE SAME TIME USING CABLE AT THE SAME TIME. THE BANDWIDTH GETS SMALLER AND SMALLER. THEY DON'T HAVE THE SERVICE OF FIBER. ACROSS THE STREET THERE'S PLENTY OF FIBER THERE. THAT'S WHY THE COLLEGE STUDENT OFF CAMPUS DON'T RECEIVE THE SAME SERVICE AS ON CAMPUS. THE DORMS ON CAMPUS HAVE

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GREAT SERVICE. BECAUSE IT'S VERY FAST.

WHAT CAN WE DO ABOUT THAT? DO YOU WANT TO GET INVOLVED IN THAT? THAT'S SOMETHING YOU HAVE TO DECIDE. ONCE AGAIN DEVELOPING A DIALOGUE WITH PROPERTY OWNERS AND ISP'S WOULD BE A REALLY GREAT THING FOR A COLLEGE TOWN SUCH AS HAYS COUNTY HAS. BRING THE PROPERTY OWNER AND PROVIDER TO DISCUSS THE SPEED AND TECHNOLOGY NEEDS OF THE STUDENTS, RESIDENTS. YOU CAN LOOK RIGHT THERE.

I GAVE A SMALLEST OF THE PARTICULAR PROVIDERS ON THAT CAMPUS AND AROUND THE CAMPUS RIGHT IN FRONT OF YOU THERE.

IT MAY NOT BE ALL INCLUSIVE. ALTHOUGH THEY OFFER SPEED OF 635MAGABITS PER SECOND. I CAN VERIFY THAT ON THE CAMPUS THEY OFFER MUCH FASTER SPEEDS THAN 1,000.

AND THAT'S ACROSS THE STREET.

THE HOUSEHOLD THAT ARE ON THE CAMPUS.

ADDITIONALLY THERE'S ADDITIONAL FIBER MARKERS FROM THAT INDICATE THE PRESENCE OF SEVERAL OTHER PROVIDERS NEAR THE CAMPUS. IT'S THERE.

IT'S A MATTER OF THEM ALLOWING STUDENTS TO HAVE IT ACROSS THE STREET. WHICH, OF COURSE, IS A BUSINESS DECISION NOW. BUT IT WOULD HELP IF THERE'S SOME CONVERSATION ABOUT THAT.

PROPERTY OWNERSHIP PROMOTE THE AVAILABLE INTERNET SERVICES OF THEIR APARTMENTS.

>> THE TYPE OF TECHNOLOGY THEIR APARTMENTS CALL LOU.

AND THE SPEEDS THAT LOCATION FOR STUDENTS PRIOR TO STUDENT SIGNING THAT LEASE AGREEMENT.

THIS WILL HELP THE PROPERTY OWNERS AS TALK TO ISP THAT I NEED BETTER SERVICE AT MY APARTMENT.

I'M HAVING TO TELL MY RESIDENTS WHAT KIND OF SERVICE I PROVIDE AND THE APARTMENTS OVER HERE ARE MUCH BETTER. I WILL HELP PROMOTE THAT CLOSING THAT GAP AS SPEEDS FOR THE STUDENTS AROUND THE CAMPUS ITSELF. IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE A LAW OR HEAVY HANDED. IT WOULD BE A GREAT CONVERSATION TO HAVE WITH THE PROPERTY OWNERS.

THIS WILL ALLOW STUDENTS TO CHOOSE THE BEST CONNECTED LOCATION FOR THEIR STUDIES. DISCLOSURE OF THE INFORMATION CAN HELP DEVELOP AND PHOTO STRENGTHEN RELATIONSHIPS BETWEEN PROPERTY OWNERS AND INTERNET PROVIDER. THE MORE PEOPLE THAT TALK ABOUT THE FASTER SERVICE YOU WILL HAVE.

ONCE AGAIN I GIVE YOU RESOURCES OF WHERE THIS HAS BEEN DONE ON OTHER COLLEGE CAMPUSES.

WITH THAT, THAT'S THE LAST OF MY PRESENTATION TO YOU.

I'M HAPPY TO ASK QUESTIONS AGAIN.

FEEL FREE TO OVER THIS. TO CONTACT ME WITH CHANGES, ADDITIONS. I WILL MAKE NOTE OF YOUR CHANGES. I HOPE YOU FEEL THIS IS WORTHWHILE PROJECT. GIVE YOU INFORMATION TO MOVE FORWARD ON THE APPROACHES OF BROADBAND IN YOUR COUNTY.

IT'S A JOY WORKING WITH PEOPLE YOU ALLOWED ME TO

WORK. >> THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR

WORK ON THIS. >> COMMISSIONER SMITH.

I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER SHELL.

WHENEVER WE SAT DOWN CONNECTED NATION WE WERE COME COMPLAINING ABOUT WESTERN HAYS COUNTY.

IT'S OBVIOUSLY THERE'S NO COVERAGE THERE.

THE ONE QUESTION THE NUMBER OF CONFERENCE CALLS AND UPDATES AND ZOOM CALLS THAT WE PARTICIPATE ON, I REALLY DO APPRECIATE IT. I REALLY WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO SIMONE AND OUR STAFF THAT YOU KNOW VERY QUICKLY, USE THE EXAMPLE A MINUTE AGO OF CARDS.

DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING I CAN HAND OUT.

I WILL BE IN FRONT OF 200 PEOPLE TOMORROW.

I WOULD LOVE TO TALK TO THEM ABOUT IT.

PRODUCING THOSE AND GETTING THEM OUT TO REACH THE PUBLIC. IT WAS VERY HELPFUL.

I DID HAVE ONE QUESTION ON THE RURAL -- ON THE TWO PROVIDERS THAT YOU MENTION HAD RECEIVED GRANTS.

I LOOKED AT THE MAP THAT YOU PROVIDED IN A DIFFERENT PRESENTATION. I KNOW THERE'S A LIST OF SPECIFIC NUMBERS THAT THEY WERE GOING TO TRY TO HIT.

WHERE THOSE ALL LOCATED IN HAYS COUNTY.

ON THE MAP IT SHOWED QUITE A FEW.

LOOKED LIKE BLANCO COUNTY AS WELL.

WERE THOSE TARGET NUMBERS FROM THAT GRANT THAT YOU MENTIONED, WERE THOSE NEW CONNECTIONS IN HAYS COUNTY?

>> YES, SIR. >> SPECIFICALLY NOT JUST FOR

THE OVERALL GRANT. >> JUST HAYS COUNTY.

AND AGAIN THOSE TWO PARTICULAR PROVIDERS, ARE HAVING SOME TROUBLE GETTING APPROVED TENTATIVELY IS A VERY IMPORTANT WORD. SINCE IT'S YOUR PARTICULAR PART OF THE COUNTY REACHING OUT TO BOTH OF THOSE ENTITIES, I SP'S WOULD DO YOU GOOD.

BECAUSE IF THEY DOESN'T HAPPEN, THAT MONEY WILL HAVE TO GET REDISTRIBUTED AND IT'S MORE DELAYED.

>> AGAIN, I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK.

I KNOW IT WASN'T EASY. I KNOW GETTING SOME OF THOSE RESPONSES, ESPECIALLY RIGHT, WRONG OR OTHERWISE FROM SOME OF OUR FOLKS AND OUR FACILITIES, SOME OF THOSE OTHER GOVERNMENTAL FACILITIES, SOME OF ISB

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FACILITIES. LIBRARIES WEREN'T NECESSARILY EASY. I APPRECIATE YOU DOING THE

WORK. >> AGAIN, IT WAS MY PLEASURE. THIS IS LARGER COUNTY.

I THINK YOU GOT SO MUCH GOING ON HERE.

THAT REALLY CAN BE JUST A SHOW STOPPER FOR THIS PARTICULAR REGION. I JUST APPRECIATE ALL OF YOUR ATTENTION TO THIS ISSUE.

I HOPE YOU CAN TAKE SOME OF THIS AND MAKE IT WORK FOR YOUR COUNTY. WE'RE NOT LEAVING JUST BECAUSE I GIVE YOU THE REPORT.

I HAVE SOME PROGRAMS THAT WILL BE GOOD FOR YOU, OF NO COST JUDGE THAT CAN COME FOR THE DIGITAL LITERACY AND DIGITAL EQUITY PIECE THAT WOULD BE GREAT.

WE JUST NEED A PLACE TO DO THEM.

. >> I CAN TELL YOU AT LEAST I CAN'T SPEAK FOR COMMISSIONER SHELL, AT LEAST WHENEVER WE SAT DOWN THAT FIRST TIME OR THOSE FIRST COUPLE OF TIMES WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT HOW TO STRUCTURE AND GET SOME FUNDING FOR SAINT DAVID COMMITTED TO THE HELP US HERE. THE REAL PURPOSE BEHIND THIS. IS THE FACT THAT YOU CAN'T REALLY SOLVE A PROBLEM UNTIL YOU DEFINE IT.

THE SURVEY IN MY EYES WAS MEANT TO BE A WAY FOR US TO DEFINE WHERE THE PROBLEM OF BROADBAND ACCESS WAS IN OUR COUNTY. WE REALLY TO THE JUDGE'S POINT. WE HAVE COMPLAINTS ALL OVER THE COUNTY. THE FACT IS THAT WE HAVE DIFFERENT COMPLAINTS DEPENDING ON WHERE YOU ARE AND WHY THERE IS ACCESS OR NOT ACCESS.

THEY HAD THE SPEED OR DON'T HAVE THE SPEED.

AND I WAS -- I HAVE TO TELL YOU IT WAS EDUCATION FOR ME WHEN WE LEARNED AS LONG AS ONE RESIDENT OR BUSINESS WITHIN A CENSUS BLOCK HAS COVERAGE THEN THAT'S CENSUS BLOCK IS CONSIDERED COMPLETELY SERVED.

ESPECIALLY ON THE WESTERN SIDE OF THE COUNTY WHERE SOME OF THE CENSUS BLOCKS ARE LITERALLY DOZENS OF MILES. THEY ARE HUGE.

AGAIN I APPRECIATE THE HELP. I KNOW IT'S BEEN A LONG PROCESS AND I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU AGAIN.

>> I THINK IT'S FUNNY. MY INITIAL MEETINGS WITH YOU WERE ALSO REMOTE. I THINK IT SHOWS HOW MUCH WE BENEFIT FROM THE USE OF TECHNOLOGY.

ABSOLUTELY SIMONE, KILLING IT.

OF COURSE. >> KILLED IT.

>> ABSOLUTELY. ABSOLUTELY.

I THANK YOU A WHOLE BUNCH. >> THAT'S A LOT OF INFORMATION AND WELL DONE. I REALLY LIKE THE PART ABOUT THE COUNTY BEING IN THE GO-TO PLACE FOR THOSE -- HAVING A WEB PAGE JUST FOR THAT.

WHERE THE PROVIDERS ARE. BUT SIMONE, HOW IS THAT -- IN PRACTICING TICK PRACTICALITY, HOW DO WE MAKE

THAT HAPPEN? >> THEN I HAVE A FOLLOW UP

QUESTION. >> PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME

AND TOTAL. >> GRANT WRITER FOR COUNTYWIDE OPERATIONS. WHEN WE STARTED THE SURVEY, KEN PUT UP A WEB PAGE WITH THE LINK TO SURVEY AND HAD INFORMATION, HAD INFORMATION ABOUT THE STAKEHOLDERS PARTICIPATING. WE CAN USE THAT SAME WEB

PAGE. >> WE DON'T THINK THAT'S AN

OVERLOAD? >> I DON'T WANT TO PUT SOMETHING OUT THAT'S NOT MAINTAINED AND UP-TO-DATE

CONSTANTLY. >> I DON'T THINK IT WOULD BE -- WORKING WITH SHERRY. I THINK KIM CAN HANDLE THE WEB PAGE AND WE WOULD PROVIDE HER WITH THE INFORMATION THAT NEEDED TO BE UPDATED.

>> AND, AGAIN, THE SECOND PART OF THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT UNDER CERTAIN AREAS THAT DON'T HAVE. WE TELL THEM WHERE TO FIND IT. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO FIND OUT SOME WAY THAT WE CAN GET -- MAYBE EACH OF US IN OUR OWN PRECINCTS GOING DOOR TO DOOR.

WE HAVE TO FIND OUT HOW THEY CAN ACCESS.

>> WE'VE BEEN TYING INTO THE THINGS THAT TROUBLE WITH OUTREACH AND HEALTH DEPARTMENT OUTREACH.

>> I THINK THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS WOULD BE A GOOD

PLACE TO START. >> WITH OUR CONNECTIONS WITH THE SCHOOLS AND LIBRARIES AND CHURCHES AND THINGS LIKE

THAT. >> FOR THE PAPER SURVEYS THEY WERE PROVIDED TO FOOD BANK AND ENGLISH AND SPANISH AND LIBRARIES AND CAMPUSES GOT E-MAILS.

THEY WERE GIVEN DIGITAL COPIES AND LOTS OF NONPROFIT

ORGANIZATION. >> THAT MAY BE A WAY IN THE FUTURE. THE FOOD BANK WE CAN DROP A

FLIER IN EVERY BAG. >> AT THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT YESTERDAY AND TRYING TO HELP PROMOTE.

ALL COUNTY EMPLOYEES DO A GOOD JOB WITH THE OUTREACH.

THEY ARE DOING THEIR PART IN A MAGNIFICENT WAY.

BECAUSE OF THE PRESENTATION, WE KNOW THAT OUR COUNTY COWORKERS -- THAT'S WHAT I CALL YOU ALL, MY COWORKERS, ARE ABSOLUTELY STELLAR AT REACHING OUT IN THOSE UNIQUE SPACES. THANK YOU, AGAIN.

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COMMISSIONER INGLIS. >> THANK YOU, PAM AND SIMONE AND EVERYONE THAT PARTICIPATED IN THE SURVEY.

THERE'S A LOT OF INFORMATION.

I HAD SOME OF THE SAME QUESTIONS WHEN I SAW THE

99.-WHAT EVERYBODY. >> THAT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE.

THE INTERNET WENT DOWN AT THE COURTHOUSE COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO OR SO. COMMISSIONER SHELL AND I WERE -- WE HAD A MEETING SET UP ON TEAMS. AND WE EACH HAVE TO GO TO OUR HOMES TO GO GET ON AND WE WERE BOTH LIKE OH, MY GOSH, THE RELIABILITY IS JUST NOT THERE. IT WENT OKAY.

YOU THINK ABOUT THOSE THINGS WHEN YOU'RE HERE AND YOU HAVE GOOD INTERNET SERVICE AND THEN YOU HAVE GO TO OUTSKIRTS OF THE COUNTY AND WE KNOW THAT WE DON'T HAVE THE RELIABILITY THAT WE NEED.

IT'S ACCESS BUT NO RELIABILITY.

THEY ANSWER AS NO ACCESS. >> THAT MAKES SENSE WHEN YOU EXPLAINED THAT. I DO LIKE -- I DO LIKE US HOSTING THE WEB SITE AND GETTING THE INFORMATION.

THERE'S A LOT OF GOOD INFORMATION THAT WOULD BE USE. IF PEOPLE CAN ACCESS YOU KNOW SUCH AS THE STATE AND FEDERAL LOW-COST PROGRAMS. THAT ARE OFFERED. THAT WAS A SURPRISE TO ME WHEN I SAW THAT. AND THE AFFORDABILITY OF THE PROGRAMS THAT PEOPLE CAN GET BACK.

>> IT'S REALLY EASY TO QUALIFY FOR.

IT'S REALLY EASY. IF YOU ARE ONLINE, IF YOU ARE NOT, REACH THEM OTHERWISE.

I WILL GET IT OUT TO SIMONE. >> GET CLOSER TO MICROPHONE.

THERE'S PEOPLE THAT HAVE NO ACCESS TO US ACCESS THROUGH

THE INTERNET. >> SORRY.

>> IF THERE'S NOTHING ELSE. I THINK WE'RE GOOD.

THANK YOU SO MUCH. YOU GAVE FIVE TIMES THE PRESENTATION TIME WE GENERALLY GIVE OTHER PEOPLE.

JUST KIDDING. IT'S FOUR MONTHS OF

INFORMATION. >> WE'VE GOT LOTS OF THINGS TO TALK ABOUT AND KEEP GOING.

[K1. Discussion and possible action to adopt Election Day Polling Locations for the November 8, 2022, General Election. BECERRA/DOINOFF]

>> THANK YOU SO MUCH. >> REALLY APPRECIATE IT.

BECAUSE OF SPEAKERS, I WILL STRAIGHT TO K-1, WILL YOU OPEN K-1. K-1 DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION ADOPT ELECTION DAY POLLING LOCATIONS FOR THE NOVEMBER 8TH GENERAL ELECTION.

>> SO MOVED. >> SECOND.

>> I WOULD LIKE TO PLEASE ASK MISS ANDERSON TO APPROACH PODIUM AND GIVE A CONVERSATION POINTS.

>> GOOD MORNING, COURT. I DIDN'T COME PREPARED WITH A PRESENTATION. BECAUSE I DIDN'T KNOW ONE WAS EXPECTED TODAY. HOWEVER, I'M HAPPY TO DO THAT. WE'LL SET THAT UP.

>> NO PRESENTATION IS REALLY REQUIRED IN ANY KIND OF WAY.

JUST MAYBE SOME CONVERSATION TO JUST LIKE WE USUALLY HAVE. JUST A CONVERSATION ABOUT THINGS GOING ON. ABOUT THE LOCATION YOU WANT TO TELL US HOW YOU CAME UP WITH THOSE AND HOW THAT'S

UNFOLDING. >> THE LOCATIONS ARE THE SAME LOCATIONS THAT WE HAVE HAD.

AND WE'RE USING OUR FULL SLATED LOCATIONS FOR THIS ELECTION. WE DID THE 14 EARLY VOTING LOCATIONS ON THE 19TH. AND WE HAVE 40 ELECTION DAY LOCATIONS PRESENTED TO YOU IN YOUR PACKET.

THE ONLY ONE THAT IS NOT ON THIS LIST WILL BE THE FIRE STATION AT 1826, BECAUSE IT'S UNDER RENOVATION DURING THAT TIME. THAT ONE IS NOT ON HERE.

BUT OTHER THAN THAT, EVERYTHING LOOKS PRETTY

STANDARD. >> OKAY.

AND IN THE SAKE OF ALL THE STANDARD THINGS GOING ON WE'LL HAVE VOTE CENTERS AT OBVIOUS LOCATIONS.

YOU CAN GO TO ANY PRECINCT FROM ANY PRECINCT TO OTHER PRECINCT. ANY GENERAL STATEMENTS TO

JUST KIND OF -- >> WELL, SYEAH.

WE HAVE CENTERS IN EVERY ELECTION.

THERE'S 40 LOCATIONS FOR VOTERS TO GO TO.

THEY CAN REPORT AT ANY LCATION IN EARLY VOTING OR

ON ELECTION DAY. >> I WAS HOPING YOU WOULD GET TO IT. I KNOW WE'VE GONE THROUGH A LOT OF GREAT WORK TO BUILD TRUST IN OUR PROCESS.

I KNOW WE HAVE AS THE COUNTY.

I'VE SEEN IT FIRSTHAND LITERALLY FRONT ROW.

CAN YOU JUST SAY AS PARLIAMENT OF THE CONVERSATION, BECAUSE THIS THE MORE ABOUT SITES JUST AS AN EXPECTATION BRAND-NEW MACHINES, VOTE CENTERS, THE BALLOTS, ARE THEY SEQUENTIAL BALLOTS?

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>> I CAN IF WE'RE ALLOWED. >> JUST GENERIC INFORMATION

ABOUT THAT. >> FIRST OF ALL, YES.

OUR VOTING SYSTEM AND OUR PROCESSES HERE WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THEM EVERY SINGLE TIME WE COME TO COURT WE HEAR COMMENTS, SEE WHAT THE PUBLIC WANTS.

WE WORK THE BUILD THE PROCESSES TO STRENGTHEN THE SECURITY IN OUR ELECTIONS. WE'RE EXTREMELY INTERESTED IN HAVING SECURE ELECTIONS JUST AS THE SPEAKER THAT COME TO COURT HERE. THERE MAY BE DIFFERENCE OF OPINION IN LAW. AND HOW THAT LAW IS IMPLEMENTED. AND I'M HAPPY TO TALK WITH ANYBODY THAT COMES AND WANTS TO COMMENT IN COMMISSIONER'S COURT ABOUT WHAT WE ARE DOING.

AND WHAT OUR STANCE IS HERE. >> THAT'S PLENTY FOR ME.

>> COMMISSIONER, QUESTIONS, COMMENTS ABOUT THE

LOCATIONS? >> I JUST -- I WOULD SAY AS WE LOOK AT THESE AND FOR THE GENERAL PUBLIC, THEY MAY NOT KNOW EXACTLY HOW MUCH WORK GOES INTO SECURING THE LOCATIONS. I PERSONALLY WORKS WITH ELECTION OFFICE TO TRY TO ESTABLISH SOME OF THE LOCATIONS EACH ONE OF THE COMMISSIONER AS WE LOOK I CAN TELL YOU AS WE LOOKED AT THE MONEY RELATED TO THE PARKS AND OPEN SPACES, ADVISORY COMMISSION AS WELL AS OUR ARPA MONEY AND HOW THE COMMISSIONERS LOOK TO SPEND THAT WITH EITHER EMERGENCY SERVICE DISTRICTSOR OTHERS, I CAN TELL YOU THAT WE ARE PUTTING THE ACTUAL HOOK IN THAT FUNDING TO SAY IF YOU WANT THIS FUNDING, WE WOULD EXPECT THAT YOU WOULD BE WILLING TO HOST A POLLING LOCATION IN THE FUTURE IF WE HAVE FUNDING GOING TOWARDS THE FACILITIES.

AND THUS FAR IT'S WORKED. PERFECT EXAMPLE PATRIOT'S HALL. I WOULD ANTICIPATE THAT WE WILL HAVE ADDITIONAL POLLING LOCATIONS AFTER WE EXPEND THOSE FUNDS IN DIFFERENT AREAS OF THE COUNTY.

AND WE WILL CONTINUE TO GROW THAT NUMBER.

I WOULD JUST HOPE THAT AS WE AN INTENTION ABOUT ANYONE ON THE COURT TO DO ANYTHING BUT PROVIDE OPEN ACCESS TO ELECTIONS. AND I COMMEND OUR ELECTION OFFICE FOR STAYING ABOVE THE FRAY.

EVERY TIME WE APPROVE THESE IT SHOULD BE LIKE WHAT WE ARE DOING TODAY. I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY TIMES WE FOUGHT OVER THESE POLLING LOCATIONS AND WHETHER I AGREE OR DISAGREE WITH SOME OF MY COLLEAGUES, THE FACT IS THAT THE LOCATIONS WE HAD TODAY ARE ARRIVED AT BECAUSE WE'RE KICKED OUT OF SCHOOLS AND CHURCHES AND SENIOR CITIZENS CENTER. BECAUSE THEY DON'T WANT US THERE AFTER COVID. AFTER THE SCHOOL SHOOTING.

THEY DON'T WANT UNKNOWN INDIVIDUALS WITHIN THE SCHOOLS. WE'VE HAD TO OVERCOME ELECTIONS OF HAD TO OVERCOME QUITE A BIT TO GET THE LOCATIONS WE HAVE AND ITS BEEN VERY DISHEARTENING FROM THE PAST TO BE ATTACKED. I REALLY APPRECIATE THEM DOING IT. I REALLY APPRECIATE THE PARTNERS OUT THERE WITHIN THE COUNTY WHO ARE ALLOWING US TO HOLD ELECTION IN THEIR FACILITIES.

BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE TO. IT'S VERY MUCH APPRECIATED.

I APPRECIATE THE HARD WORK YOU HAVE DONE TO INITIATE THOSE PROGRAMS AND IMPLEMENT THE THINGS THAT WE NEED TO DO TO ENSURE THAT WE DO HAVE FAITH IN OUR ELECTION PROCESS. I APPRECIATE THE WORK YOU ARE DOING. I RAISED MY FAMILY HERE.

I KNOW WHAT IT IS LIKE TO HAVE HAD ALL THE DIFFERENT THINGS THAT HAVE GONE ON THAT PEOPLE WHOSE EVER FAULT ITS IN THE PAST LOSING FLASH DRIVES OR WHOLE BOXES OR WHATEVER THAT IS CALLED. SEMANTICS IN MY THOUGHT PROCESS. I UNDERSTAND NOT EVERYTHING WORKS AS IDEAL AS IT SHOULD. I HAVE WITNESSED LOTS OF THINGS THAT COMMUNITY MEMBERS HAVE COMPLAINED ABOUT. AND WE HAVE HAD A LOT OF CONVERSATIONS ABOUT IT. MY ONLY AIM IN SPEAKING ABOUT IT AT THIS VERY SECOND TO MAKE SURE THAT WE OR I DON'T DIMINISH OR DILUTE ANYONE'S GENUINE BONNFIED HEARTFELT CONCERN. EVERYONE'S PERSPECTIVE IS THERE OWN. I WANT TO DO EVERYTHING I CAN TO HELP HARMONIZE OUR COMMUNITY.

WE HAVE HAD TUMULTUOUS COUPLE OF YEARS.

THE MORE WE COME TOGETHER. MORE PEACEFUL WE WILL BECOME. A LOT OF THE THINGS THAT I

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SEE AS COUNTY JUDGE, I UNDERSTAND A LOT OF THESE RETURNS LOW-HANGING FRUIT. CHAIN OF CONSISTENCY.

CONSISTENT POLLING LOCATIONS.

LET'S DO THAT. AND I UNDERSTAND THAT OH THERE'S SOMETIMES WHERE YOU CAN AND CAN'T.

THE MORE CONSISTENT WE BECOME IN WHAT WE ARE DOING COUNTYWIDE AND THE MORE PREDICTABLE WE ARE AND MORE TRANSPARENT WE CONVEY OURSELVES, WITH SIGNATURES BY THE JUDGES. THE MORE OF THESE THINGS THAT WE DO THEY ARE GOOD AND RIGHT AND WHOLESOME IN THEY ARE MOST AMERICAN THING TO DO.

I'M GRATEFUL THAT PEOPLE ARE WATCHING.

IT HELPS KEEP US HONEST. I'M GRATEFUL WE CAN HAVE THE CONVERSATIONS AND KNOW IT'S MEANINGFUL.

JUST BECAUSE WE DON'T AGREE ON SOMETHING WE DON'T NEED TO TORCH OURSELVES WITH ANGER AND H HATRED AND BITTERNESS. IT'S OKAY TO DISAGREE.

LET'S BE CIVIL AND TRY TO WORK INTELLIGENTLY FOR A MORE PEACEFUL AND HARMONIOUS COUNTY.

WE CAN AGREE OR DISAGREE. WE SHOULD DO IT IN THE MOST PEACEFUL MANNER POSSIBLE. JENNIFER, THANK YOU FOR MOVING THROUGH THIS. YOU'VE BEEN A TARGET MANY TIMES. I KNOW IT.

WE ALL HAVE. AND I JUST KNOW THAT THE MORE TRANSPARENT WE BECOME IN OUR OVERALL PROCESSES THE BETTER THE COMMUNITY WILL FEEL ABOUT WHAT WE ARE DOING. IF THERE'S NOTHING ELSE I WILL ASK TO CALL THE VOTE.

THANK YOU, JENNIFER. I WILL GO STRAIGHT THROUGH

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CONSENT. PLEASE OPEN G-1 THROUGH 7.

G-1 APPROVE PAYMENTS OF COUNTY INVOICES.

G-2 APPROVE THE PAYMENTS OF JUROR CHECKS.

G-3, APPROVAL THE PAYMENT OF UNITED HEALTH CARE CLAIMS. G-4 APPROVAL COMMISSIONER COURT MINUTES OF JUNE 7, 202

AND JUNE 21, 2022. >> FIVE, AUTHORIZE BUILDING MAINTENANCE TO REPLACE THE EXISTING 3.5TONR-22 SPLIT SYSTEM WITH A NEW 3.5TON, R-410A AMERICAN STANDARD SPLIT SYSTEM LOCATED IN THE FORMAN'S OFFICE OF THE YARRINGTON COMPLEX IN THE AMOUNT OF $13,190 POINLT 42 AND AMEND THE BUDGET ACCORDINGLY.

>>> 6, AUTHORIZE THE EXECUTION THE ANNUAL RENEWAL AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE HAYS COUNTY PARKS DEPARTMENT SLASH COUNTYWIDE OPERATIONS AND CHECKFRONT INC IN THE AMOUNT OF $8,248.50 FOR CONTINUED ACCESS TO THE

ONLINE RESERVATION SYSTEMS. >> 7, AUTHORIZE THE LOCAL HEALTH DEPARTMENT TO AC-SEPTEMBERED $100 DONATION IN THE FORM OF TEN $10 GIFT CARDS FROM HEB THAT WILL GIVEN OUT AS PRIZES TO ATTENDEES OF THE HISPANIC LATINO HEALTH FORUM THAT THE HEALTH DEPART ELEMENT BE HOSTING IN SEPTEMBER 2022 AND AM THE BUDGET ACCORDINGLY. IS

>> SO MOVED. >> SECOND.

>> WE HAVE DISTRACTION ON THE SIDE OF COURT.

TELL US WHAT'S GOING ON. >> THANK YOU FOR DO THAT.

I APPRECIATE IT. >> PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

[Items G8 - G14]

>>> G-8. AUTHORIZE HAYS COUNTY BUILDING MAINTENANCE TO REPLACE FIVE THERMOSTATS IN THE CONNECTING CONTROL WIRING LOCATED IN THE COURTHOUSE IN THE AMOUNT OF $3,550.28 AND AMEND THE

BUDGET ACCORDINGLY. >> G-9 AUTHORIZE HAYS COUNTY BUILDING MAINTENANCE/COUNTYWIDE OPERATIONS TO PURCHASE TWO NEWS A THROW PHYSICS XIS X-RAE SYSTEMS FOR THE GOVERNMENT CENTER IN THE AMOUNT OF $35,227.86 AND AMEND THE BUDGET ASKINGLY.

G-10 APPROVE UTILITY PERMIT. G-11 AUTHORIZE THE OFFICE OF EMERGENCY SERVICES TO USE EXISTING FUND FOR AN EMERGENCY OPERATIONS PLAN WORKSHOP AND TRAINING

CONDUCTED BY BOLD PLANNING. >> G-12.

AUTHORIZE HAYS COUNTY BUILDING MAINTENANCE COUNTYWIDE OPERATIONS TO PURCHASE TWO NEW MAGNASCANNER BODY SCANNER FOR THE GOVERNMENT CENTER IN THE AMOUNT OF $9,159.00 AND AMEND THE BUDGET ACCORDINGLY. G-13.

AUTHORIZE THE COUNTY JUDGE TO EXECUTE AN UPDATED

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SERVICE AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE HAYS COUNTY AND THE BUG MASTER TO ADD RODE EBTD CONTROL IN THE SERVICES AGREEMENT FOR THE HISTORIC COURTHOUSE IN THE AMOUNT OF

$110,000 QUARTERLY. >> G-14.

TEXAS A&M WILDLIFE SERVICES PROGRAM IN THE AMOUNT OF

$7,500,000. >>> SO MOVED.

>> SECOND. >> TELL US THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN 9 AND 12. THE TWO DIFFERENT SCANNERS

ON THE AGENDA. >> ONE IS THE X-RAY SYSTEM.

THE OTHER IS THE BODY SCANNING.

>> FOR THE ENTRANCE? >> YES.

>> THE ENTRANCE TO GOVERNMENT CENTER.

>> WE WENT THROUGH HOW MANY? >> 14 THE LAST.

>> PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

>> I SAW A GESTURE OUT THERE.

IT SEEMS I MAY HAVE MISSED A SPEAKER.

WE HAVE A SPEAKER ON G-8. MR. DAN LION.

THANK YOU FOR THE OUTBURST. THE VISUAL DISTRACTION.

>> THANK YOU JUDGE. I KNOW HOW EASY IT IS TO OVERLOOK. ANYWAY, I PULLED UP THE ORDER FOR THIS ACTUAL BILL ITEMIZED STATEMENT BILL FOR THIS OPERATION AND IT LOOKS LIKE ACCORDING TO THIS WE GOT 18 HOURS FOR THE ELECTRICIAN, 86.44, THAT WILL BE 1555.92. HELPER MAKE $67.49.

THAT'S 16 HOURS. 1,079.84.

PLUS THERE'S A $75 CALLOUT FEE FOR, YOU KNOW, TRIP CHARGE FOR REPAIR. I HAVE SPOKEN ABOUT THIS MANY TIMES BEFORE. THAT SEEMS RIDICULOUSLY HIGH. I LOOK WHERE THEY ARE FROM.

THEY ARE FROM ROUND ROCK. IT BRINGS UP THE QUESTION COULDN'T WE FIND SOMEONE LOCALLY THAT COULD DO THIS? ALSO WANT TO KNOW WHAT ABOUT OUR CARBON FOOTPRINT? I DON'T BELIEVE IN SUCH THINGS.

SOME PEOPLE DO. AND THIS ADDS TO THE CARBON FOOTPRINT. I WANT TO KNOW WHO OVERSEEING THE WORK TO MAKE SURE IT ACTUALLY TAKES THEM THIS LONG TO DO IT FOR YOU KNOW, ARE THEY ACTUALLY WORKING AT THEIR FASTEST OR I HAVE READ THE SCOPE OF SERVICES AND IN THE VERY FIRST PARAGRAPH, IT SAY JM ENGINEERING WILL INVESTIGATE TROUBLESHOOT AND REPLACE FIVE THERMOSTATS AND FIX CONTROL WIRING ON THERMOSTATS FOR HVAC UNITS WHAT I WANT TO KNOW, OBVIOUSLY THEY ARE NOT GOING TO TROUBLESHOOT THE OLD THERMOSTATS. THEY WILL TROUBLESHOOT THE NEW THERMOSTATS. I'M NOT SURE WHY THEY NEED TO DO THAT. THEY ARE UNDER WARRANTY.

TO REPLACE THE WIRING, OBVIOUSLY, YOU'VE ALREADY GOT THE CONDUIT IN PLACE. I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S MORE WIRING THAT NEEDS TO GO INTO A DIGITAL SYSTEM THAN AN ANALOGUE SYSTEM? I ASSUME WE HAVE AN ANALOGUE SYSTEM ALREADY. TO ME IT LOOKS DIGITAL WHEN I LOOK AT THAT THERMOSTAT OVER THERE THAT'S DIGITAL.

MAYBE YOU'RE REPLACING SOME THAT AREN'T DIGITAL.

AND ARE, IN FACT, ANALOGUE. I DO NOT KNOW.

LET ME JUST SAY THE TRANSPARENCY IN THIS IS LACKING CONSIDERABLY. I KNOW THAT PEOPLE FROM HAYS COUNTY THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT $241,000.

WE'RE LOOKING $170,000 PER YEAR FOR THE ELECTRICIAN AND FOR HIS HELPER. $130,000 PER YEAR.

PEOPLE WANT TO KNOW WHY IT'S SO EXPENSIVE.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> SORRY I ALMOST MISSED YOUR WINDOW FOR COMMENT.

I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT. >> WOULD YOU LIKE TO MOVE

ON. >> TAMMY CRUMBLY DIRECTOR OF OPERATIONS. THERE'S SOME WIRING ISSUES THAT NEED TO BE ADDRESSED IN THESE INSTALLATION OF THE NEW THERMOSTATS. THAT'S THE ISSUE WITH THE WIRING. THIS IS ALSO A QUOTE.

IF THE MAN HOURS DON'T EQUAL.

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THAT WILL NOT BE THE ENTIRE BALANCE OF THE INVOICE.

WE'RE WATCHING THE INVOICING FROM JME.

SO YES SOMEONE IS ON TOP OF WHAT THEY ARE ACTUALLY BILLING. MR. LIONS, THAT WILL BE ADDRESSED IN EACH OF THEIR INVOICES.

I CAN'T TELL YOU THE WIRING THAT'S BEING REPLACE.

I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S DIGITAL OR ANALOGUE.

I CAN FIND THAT OUT AND REPORT BACK TO YOU.

>> OKAY. >> AND SO THEY ARE NOT RUNNING I KNOW YOU SAID YOU DON'T KNOW.

ARE THEY RUN O PLANNING ON RUNNING NEW LINE FOR NEW

THERMOSTATS? >> I'M GUESSING THAT WE'RE HAVING SOME PROBLEMS WITH THE THERMOSTATS AND WE NEED A CONTRACTOR TO COME TAKE A LOOK AND THEY PROBABLY BELIEVE THEY ARE GOING TO HAVE TO DO SOME WORK TO

REPLACE SOME OF THE WIRING? >> WHEN WE HAD THE PREVIOUS -- THE NEW -- SOME OF THE REPLACEMENT DONE.

THE WIRING WAS NOT REPLACED. JUST STUCK NEW ONES UP.

THEY ARE NOT COMPATIBLE WITH WHAT'S THERE.

WE NEED TO REDO SOME OF THOSE --

>> THIS IS A QUOTE. THEY EXPECT IT WILL TAKE THIS TIME. BUT OUR STAFF WILL BE AROUND. AND IF FOR SOME REASON THEY BILL US FOR 24 HOURS AND THEY WERE OBVIOUSLY HERE ONE DAY, WE'RE GOING TO PICK UP ON THAT.

>> YES. >> WHEN THEY SUBMIT THE

INVOICE. >> I'M ALSO ASSUMING THAT THE RATES ARE PART OF THE CONTRACT?

>> THAT'S PART OF THE CONTRACT.

WE'VE EXPLAINED THAT BEFORE. >> I'M ALSO ASSUMING THAT WHAT JUST LIKE PARTS, RATES ARE MARKED UP AS WELL.

IF AN EMPLOYEE IS MAKING $20 AN HOUR.

FOR INSTANCE, OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, CONTRACTOR MARKING THAT UP. WE'RE TAKING BIDS THAT ARE COMPETITIVE. AND WE'RE PICKING THE BID THAT OFFERS US THE LOWEST PRICE FOR THE SERVICES.

IN THEIR MARK UP OR LABOR OR MATERIALS.

I THINK THE MATERIALS THE ONES WE TALKED ABOUT MULTIPLE TIMES I'M SURE IS INDUSTRY STANDARD.

I'M ASSUMING THE LABOR MARKET IS PROBABLY SIMILAR.

BUT IN THE END, WE'RE LOOKING AT EVERYONE TELLING US WHAT IT WILL COST PER HOUR FOR THEM TO WORK ON OUR SYSTEMS AND THEN WE CHOOSE THE PERSON THAT PROVIDES WITH THE LOW. BID.

>> THAT'S CORRECT. >> WHAT AN AIR CONDITIONING TECHNICIAN MAKES PER HOUR I'M NOT SURE.

BUT WHEN THEY BID ON THIS THAT WOULD HAVE HAD A SHEET THAT'S ATTACHED TO BID THAT SAYS, THIS IS WHAT WE WOULD BILL FOR THIS TYPE OF INVOICE.

THIS IS WHAT WE WOULD BILL FOR ANOTHER TYPE EMPLOYEE.

>> THAT'S WHEREIN THEIR CONTRACTOR.

>> THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER AND THANKS YOU MIS-C

-- MIS-C RULY. >> I KNOW MR. LIONS HAD QUESTIONS ON HVAC STUFF BEFORE.

I WOULD LIKE TO REMIND HIM JUST AS COMMISSIONER SHELL DID. I ACTUALLY SPONSORED THE ITEM, I GUESS IT WAS PROBABLY A 1 1/2, TWO YEARS AGO. IT WAS YEAR-AND-A-HALF.

2020 THE BID FOR SERVICE FOR HVAC.

I THINK THAT WE HAD A HANDFUL OF RESPONDENTS AS FAR AS THEIR LOCATION AGAIN TO COMMISSIONER SHELL'S POINT WE WENT WITH THE PROVIDER THAT COPROVIDE THE SERVICES AT THE LOWEST POSSIBLE COST TO THE COUNTY.

WE CAN'T CONTROL WHETHER OR NOT A LOCAL PROVIDER CHOOSES WE JUST HAVE TO EVALUATE THE SUBMISSIONS WE GET.

I WOULD JUST LIKE TO REMIND YOU OF THAT.

>> I ASK THAT YOU CALL THE ROLL.

[Items G15 - G18]

G-15 THROUGH 18. >>> G-15.

AUTHORIZE THE OFFICE OF EMERGENCY SERVICES TO PURCHASE 50 FIREHOUSES VALUED ABOUT 6,# 88.50 TO SUPPORT WILD LAND FIRE MITIGATION AND AMEND THE

BUDGET ACCORDINGLY. >> G-16, AUTHORIZE $3,000 IN ADDITIONAL FUNDING FOR THE HAYS COUNTY COMMUNITY EMERGENCY RESPONSE TEAM, TO PURCHASE CONSUMABLES IN SUPPORT OF FIREFIGHTER'S REHABILITATION DURING THE WILDFIRES AND AMEND THE BUDGET ACCORDINGLY.

>> G-17. AUTHORIZE ALL COUNTY OFFICES THAT PARTICIPATE IN THE LOWER COLORADO RIVER AUTHORITY, TRUNKED RADIO SYSTEM, AGREEMENT TO PURCHASE COMPONENT PARTS FROM LCRA UTILIZING DISCRESS

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NARGS EXEMPTION PURSUANT TO TEXAS LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE AND G-18 APPROVE OUT OF STATE TRAVEL FOR CHIEF DEPUTY ROXANNE RODRIQUEZ AND SENIOR DEPUTY MADISON GISH TO ATTEND THE PRIA CONFERENCE FROM 30-SEPTEMBER

1, 2022. >> SO MOVED.

>> SECOND. >> ON G-15 I WANT TO SAY, NOT FUNNY LIKE HILARIOUS. I WAS IN FRONT OF CAMERA BEING INTERVIEWED. NEXT TO ME WERE STACKS OF DAMAGED HOSES. THE EXPLANATIONS I WAS GIVEN SO COMMON SENSE. YOU CAN'T HAVE A CRAZY MULTIAPPLY HOSE OUT THERE THAT NO ONE CAN PULL BECAUSE IT'S SO RESILIENCE. YOU CAN'T GIVE IT TO THE BIRD SITES. THEY HAVE TO USE MORE NIMBLE HOSES TO MOVE THROUGH THE COMPLEX AND WINDY AND CRAZY TOPOGRAPHY THEY FIND. WITH THAT THE LINES GET BURNED. THEY ARE OVER HOLE COALS.

THIS IS A BY PRODUCT OF ALL THE HARD WORK THAT SO MANY FIREFIGHTERS PARTICIPATED IN.

AND I TOLD THEM, I WILL DO MY PART TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN HELP YOU GUYS REPLACE ALL OF THOSE ITEMS THAT WERE SPENT IN PRECINCT 3 SPECIFICALLY.

AND IN OUR COUNTY. COMMISSIONER?

>> I THINK THAT'S A GREAT IDEA.

JUST BECAUSE WE'RE ALSO RELYING ON SO MUCH MUTUAL AID. WE HAVE ENTITIES FROM ALL OVER THE COUNTRY. RESPONDING TO THE FIRES.

WE'RE BURNING UP HOSES LEFT AND RIGHT.

IT'S A GREAT IDEA FOR US TO BE ABLE TO HAVE THAT.

>> THE THING I WOULD SAY AS WELL IS WE'RE ORDERING THE HOSES. THESE WILL BE REPLACEMENTS FOR THOSE WE MORE OR LESS BURN OR MELT THIS YEAR.

THE PROBLEM BECAUSE FOR SUPPLY CHAIN ISSUES.

I WANT IT CLEAR THAT WE PROBABLY WON'T GET THESE FOR THIS FIRE SEASON. IT WILL BE FOR NEXT FIRE SEASON. JUST BECAUSE IT WILL TAKE LONG TO GET THEM. THIS HAS BEEN ISSUE THEY'VE BROUGHT UP TO US. ONE O

>>> I SPOKE TO MIKE. IT'S THAT AND TIRES.

THEY ARE MELTING TIRES OFF THESE THINGS.

THIS WAS THE LEAST WE COULD DO, I THOUGHT.

I WAS HAPPY TO COSPONSOR IT. >> THANK YOU, JUDGE.

>> I AGREE. I COULDN'T AGREE MORE WITH THE DESCRIPTION. THIS IS THE LEAST WE CAN DO.

THEY COME OUT HERE, BRING THE RESOURCES AND HELP US PUT OUT A FIRE. I'M GRATEFUL NO LOSS OF LIFE OR HOMES. WE OWE IT TO THEM.

SO THEY DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT THE PHYSICAL IMPACT OF

TRYING TO PUT OUT A FIRE. >> COMMISSIONER, ANYTHING

ELSE? >> HAPPY TO SUPPORT IT.

THEY NEED THESE. THESE ARE SO IMPORTANT TO

WHAT THEY DO. >> YOU BET.

>> PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

BECAUSE WE'RE ABOUT TO STEP INTO WORKSHOP.

I WANT TO GIVE US A FEW MINUTES OF RECESS IN BETWEEN. WHAT DO YOU WANT THE DO?

[Items I1 - I4]

>> WE CAN KNOCK OUT ROADS. PLEASE OPEN I-1-4.

>> I-1 HOLDING A PUBLIC HEARING WITH POSSIBLE ACTION ESTABLISH A TWO-WAY STOP LOCATION ON SUNBRIGHT BOULEVARD AT THE INTERSECTION WITH THE SCHOOL ENTRANCE ONLY DRIVE TO HELP CONTROL TRAFFIC FOR THE NEW

SUNFIELD ELEMENTARY SCHOOL. >> I-2.

HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING WITH POSSIBLE ACTION TO ESTABLISH A FOUR-WAY STOP LOCATION ON THE VISTA GARDENS AT THE INTERSECTION WITH PARKROSE DRIVE TO HELP CONTROL TRAFFIC FOR THE NEW SUNFIELD ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.

>> I-3. HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING WITH POSSIBLE ACTION TO ESTABLISH A FOUR-WAY STOP LOCATION ON SUNBRIGHT BOULEVARD AT THE INTERSECTION OF VISTA GARDENS DRIVE TO HELP CONTROL TRAFFIC FOR THE NEW

SUNFIELD ELEMENTARY SCHOOL. >> I-4.

DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO AWARD A CONTRACT FOR IFB2022-B-17 ELDER HILL ROAD, RACED PROFILE STRIPING TO TOTAL HIGHWAY MAINTENANCE, LLC.

IN THE AMOUNT OF $105,230.00.

>> MOTION WE DO THE THREE PUBLIC HEARINGS.

>> SECOND. >> I WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR 1-3 AT THE SAME TIME.

IF THERE'S ANYONE HERE TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAIN I-1, 2 OR 3. PLEASE APPROACH THE PODIUM.

I SEE NO MOVEMENT. I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC

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HEARING. >> I WILL MAKE MOTION WE APPROVE ALL AT LEAST. THIS NEW ELEMENTARY.

THEY JUST OPENED UP THIS WEEK.

THEY HAD RIBBON CUTTING EARLIER.

IT WILL BE -- IT WILL BE HUGE SAFETY IMPROVEMENT FOR

THAT AREA. >> SECOND.

>> PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

>> WE'VE OPENED I-4. >> THANK YOU.

THIS IS A PROJECT THAT COMMISSIONER SHELL AND I BOTH ARE WORKING ON. I REALLY APPRECIATE THE TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT REACHING OUT AND DOING AN OVERALL ANALYSIS OF ELDER HILL ROAD.

WE'VE DONE OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF WEEKS OR SESSIONS OF COURT WE'VE DONE A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT THINGS ON ELDER HILL TO TRY TO IMPROVE SAFETY.

THIS IS JUST ANOTHER STEP IN THAT PROCESS.

AND THIS WILL PROVIDE FOR THE RACED PROFILE STRIPING.

>> OKAY. >> THREE BIDS AND WE'RE

GOING WITH THE LOW BID. >> BEAUTIFUL.

THANK YOU. >> PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

[J1. PLN-1927-PC; Hold a Public Hearing with possible action to approve the Burnett Ranch, Sec 1, Lot 11, Replat. SHELL/MACHACEK]

>> J-1. PLN-1927-PC.

HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING WITH THE POSSIBLE ACTION TO APPROVE THE BURNETT RANCH SECTION 1, LOT 11 REPLAT.

>>I WILL OPEN J-1 FOR PUBLIC HEARING.

ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS AGENDA ITEM PLEASE APPROACH THE PODIUM. I SEE NO MOVEMENT.

I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

>> GOOD MORNING JUDGE. I'M WITH THE HAYS COUNTY DEVELOPMENT SERVICES PLANNING DEPARTMENT.

BURNETT RANCH IS RECORDED SUBDIVISION LOCATED OFF BURNETT RANCH ROAD WITHIN PRESIFRNTHD THREE.

THE PROPOSED REPLAT WILL CREATE THREE LOTS.

LOT 11-A, B AND C ACROSS 14.98 ACRES.

WATER UTILITY WILL BE I ACHIEVED THROUGH PRIVATE WELLS AND WASTEWATER TREATMENT ESTABLISHED THROUGH INDIVIDUAL ON SITE SEWAGE FACILITIES.

THERE'S NO VARIANCES REQUESTED AND HAS FULL STAFF

RECOMMENDATION. >>> MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE PLN-1927-PC. BURNETT RANCH.

SECTION 1, LOT 11 REPLAT. >> SO MOVED.

[J2. PLN-1949-PC; Hold a Public Hearing with possible action to approve the proposed Glenn H. Kothmann, Lot 39, Replat. SHELL/MACHACEK]

>>

>> OPEN J-2. PLN-1949-PC, HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING WITH THE POSSIBLE ACTION TO APPROVE THE PROPOSED GLENNH.KOTHMANN LOT 39 REPLAT.

>>> I WILL OPEN THIS ITEM FOR PUBLIC HEARING.

ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS AGENDA ITEM;

PLEASE APPROACH THE PODIUM. >> NO MOVEMENT.

I CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. COMMISSIONER SHELL.

>> THANK YOU, AGAIN. GLENN H.KOTHMANN IS SUBDIVISION ON WINDY HILLS ROAD IN DRIPPING SPRINGS LOCATED WITHIN PRECINCT 3. REPLAT WILL CREATE TWO LOTS 39-A AND B ACROSS 10.32 ACRES.

WATER AND UTILITY WILL BE ACHIEVED THROUGH PRIVATE WELLS AND WEST WATER TREATMENT ESTABLISHED TWLU INDIVIDUAL ON SITE FACILITIES.

THIS PROJECT ALSO HAS NO VARIANCES REQUESTED AND HAS

FULL STAFF RECOMMENDATION. >> I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A

MOTION TO APPROVE J-2. >> SECOND.

>> PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

>> WE WILL DO IT ONE MORE TIME.

[L1. 11:00 a.m. - Budget Workshop regarding the Fiscal Year 2023 budget. Possible action may follow. BECERRA/DORSETT]

WE ARE BACK FROM A TEN-MINUTE RECESS.

AND NOW WE ARE GOING TO ASK THAT WE OPEN OUR WORKSHOP

L-1. >> L-1.

BUDGET WORKSHOP RECORDING FISCAL YEAR 2023 BUDGET.

>> I HAVE ONE PERSON SIGNED UP TO SPEAK.

IT IS LAURIN -- [INAUDIBLE]

>> YOU WERE WRITING IN A HURRY.

PERFECT AND THANK YOU. >> I WILL HOPEFULLY MAKE THIS SHORT AND SWEET. I'M HERE REPRESENTING POWS.

THE CURRENT PRESIDENT AND CLINIC COORDINATOR.

WE HAVE REQUESTED $40,000 THIS YEAR.

TO HELP US WITH OUR SPAY AND NEUTER PROJECT.

IN PREVIOUS YEARS WE'VE BEEN AWARDED 20 WHICH HAS BEEN ABSOLUTELY PERFECT TOWN MARK FOR WHAT WE'VE NEEDED.

I WANTED TO JUST GIVE A QUICK EXPLANATION WHERE WE ARE GONE AND WHERE WE ARE TODAY AND WHY WE'RE ASKING FOR THE INCREASE. THE INCREASE IS DUE TO FACT

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THAT WE HAVE MORE DOCTORS. THAT IS THE BOTTOM LINE.

WE CAN'T SPAY AND NEUTER IF WE DON'T HAVE THE MEDICAL STAFF TO SUPPORT IT. WE HAVE BEEN SO GREAT.

THAT WE HAVE EXTRA DOCTORS COMING FROM AS FASTER AS HOUSTON, AND NORTH AUSTIN, THAT ARE DEDICATING WHICH WE HAVE TO PAY THEM. THAT'S WHY WE'RE ASKING FOR MONEY. THIS IS NO LONGER A FREE VOLUNTEER VAR CHARITY SERVICE.

IT'S A CHARITY SERVICE FOR THE HAYS COUNTY RESIDENT BUT ISN'T FROM PALS. WE HAVE TO PAY A STAFF.

THERE'S A GIANT SHORTAGE IN VETERINARIAN.

IT'S NOT CONSIDERED A SPECIALITY.

I WILL BE SOON. BECAUSE NOT ANY VETERINARIAN CAN WALK OFF THE STREET THAT HAS PRIVATE PRACTICE AND COME IN AND DO BETWEEN 50 TO 60 ANIMALS IN FOUR TO FIVE HOURS TO BE ABLE TO SEND THEM HOME.

IT'S A SPECIALITY. THERE'S VERY FEW RESOURCES FOR THESE TYPES OF VETERINARIANS.

AND THEY ARE ARE PULLED IN EVERY DIRECTION.

WE'RE SO GRATEFUL THAT WE HAVE WORKED SO HARD AND WE HAVE NETWORKED WITH AMAZING VETS THAT SEE WHAT WE ARE DOING. KNOW WE DENT HAVE ANY RESOURCES FOR HAYS COUNTY. BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE THEM ANYMORE. THE CITY OF AUSTIN, HAS DECIDED THEIR MONEY WHEN IT GOES TO THE PETS THEY HAD MOBILE VAN TRAVELLING THROUGHOUT HAYS COUNTY AND SETTING UP DIFFERENT AREAS FIXING THOSE ANIMALS.

THEY SAID WHY WE WILL GIVE YOU MILLION WHEN YOU GO TO OTHER COUNTY. IF YOU WANT OUR MONEY.

YOU STAY IN TRAVIS COUNTY. THEY STAY IN AUSTIN.

OUR RESIDENTS CAN GO AND USE THE SERVICES.

THERE'S 3-4-MONTH WAIT LIMIT.

OUR BIGGEST DEFICIENCY HERE IN HAYS COUNTY IS SERVICING LARGE DOGS. ALTHOUGH OUR FACILITY ON SAN ANTONIO CAN FIT 61 CATS. WE DOGS IN THE FACILITY.

THEY HAVE TO BE UNDER 40 POUNDS BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE THE PHYSICAL ROOM TO PUT THEM ANYWHERE.

WE'RE GRATEFUL WE HAVE PARTNERED WITH PAWS.

WE ARE CONTRACT LABORING WITH THEM AND THEIR VET THERE. WE ARE TRANSPORTING OUR EXTRA LARGE DOGS FROM SAN ANTONIO LOCATION INTO DRIPPING SPRINGS. THEY WILL FIX THOSE DOGS, EXTRA LARGE DOGS THERE. BRING THEM BACK TO SAN MARCOS WHERE WE DISCHARGE THEM.

IT'S HYBRID. WE DO IT OURSELVES INSTEAD OF TRANSPORT SERVICE. THIS IS BRAND-NEW PROGRAM.

IT ACTUALLY DOESN'T START UNTIL SEPTEMBER.

>> HOLD ON A SECOND. >> TWO THINGS I WANT TO SAY.

BECAUSE YOU'RE DOING A WONDERFUL JOB.

BECAUSE WE'RE IN WORKSHOP MODE.

THAT IS A -- AT THIS POINT IT BECOMES A STRONG SUGGESTION BUT YOU CAN GO A LITTLE BIT FURTHER.

AND NUMBER 2, WHEN DESCRIBING WHAT YOU JUST DESCRIBED I WOULD LIKE TO ENCOURAGE YOU TO SAY SAN ANTONIO STREET. FOR THOSE THAT DON'T KNOW THEY MAY THINK YOU ARE DRIVING PEOPLE FROM SAN

ANTONIO. >> ABSOLUTELY.

>> IT'S 215 WEST SAN ANTONIO STREET.

RIGHT HERE IN SAN MARCOS. ACROSS FROM THE COURTHOUSE.

TO CLARIFY. OUR BIGGEST REASONS FOR ASKING FOR THIS INCREASE IS THAT WE HAVE THE NEW PROGRAMS. IT IS THE PROGRAM TO TRANSPORT THE LARGE DOGS TO PAWS AND THAT WE HAVE TWO BRAND-NEW VETS COMING FROM SAN ANTONIO AND ONE FROM HOUSTON THAT ARE WILLING TO GIVE US A BIG LION SHARE HELP. WE CAN'T AFFORD IT.

IT CAN START IN OCTOBER. WE DON'T HAVE THE MONEY.

I'M HERE SHORT NOT OF BEGGING.

WE HAVE THE CONTRACTS TOWN TABLE.

I DON'T KNOW HOW TO FUND THEM.

I RAN IN HERE LAST MINUTE. JUST TO MAKE I HOPE YOU CONSIDER I KNOW THERE WAS A BIG FEASIBILITY STUDY.

I KNOW HAYS COUNTY NEEDS. THIS IS WHAT WE'RE DOING.

WE'RE DOING IT EVERY DAY. I ENCOURAGE YOU TO THINK ABOUT FULLY FUNDING THIS SO THAT WE ACTUALLY CAN KEEP DOING WHAT WE CAN DO. BECAUSE IF WE DON'T SAY YES TO THESE DOCTORS, BECAUSE WE CAN'T AFFORD IT.

THEY WILL GO SOMEWHERE ELSE. THEY ARE IN HIGH DEMAND.

RIGHT NOW I HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO GET THEM TO COME AND STAY AND USE OUR FACILITY.

BUT I CAN'T IF I DON'T HAVE THE MONEY.

IT'S UNFORTUNATE. EYE BEEN REALLY, REALLY GRATEFUL TO JUST SAY TO COMMISSION THANK YOU FOR THE MICROCHIPS. WE'VE DONE OVER 500 TODAY.

TODAY WE GO BEYOND GROOMING IN SAN MARCOS BY THE SHELTER TO DO ANOTHER FREE MICROCHIP.

I WILL KEEP IT SHORT AND SWEET.

I'M ASKING YOU TO MAKE SURE YOU REALLY, REALLY CONSIDER GIVING US THE FULL AMOUNT. BECAUSE WE HAVE AMAZING OPPORTUNITIES ON THE TABLE RIGHT NOW THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO FUND. THANK YOU.

>> THIS IS WHAT YOU CO. YOU DO IT WELL.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR WHAT YOU ARE DOING.

MAGNIFICENT NEED.NG A - AND I BELIEVE THAT, THAT IS WHERE PARTNERSHIPS ARE MOST VALUABLE WHEN GOVERNMENT

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STEPS WITH OUR CITIZENRY IN THE FORM OF ORGANIZATIONS LIKE YOURS TO DO THIS VERY NECESSARY WORK.

IT'S A FINER GRAND LATHED REACH INTO OUR COMMUNITY.

>> OUR GOAL IS TO DO 3,000 ANIMALS.

LAST YEAR WE DID 2000. WE WANT TO HAVE 3,000 LOW COST OR SPAY AND NEUTER SERVICES.

NAY HAVE TO CHOOSE WHETHER TO PAY THEIR RENT OR GET ANIMAL FIXED. WE SUPPORT THEM.

WE WANT THEM TO KEEP THEN IN THE HOMES.

NOT IN THE SHELTER. WE ALSO HAVE A FOOD MANTRY THAT GIVES AWAY FREE FOOD BECAUSE THE FOOD BANK DOESN'T. THAT'S ONE THING THEY ARE NOT ALLOWED TO DO. WE COME IN AND SUPPORT THAT LACK OF FOOD. AND WE'RE USUALLY RUNNING OUT OF FOOD BY THE END OF THE DAY.

WE NEVER HAVE ANYTHING LEFT. WE PAY FOR THAT TO MAKE SURE THE ANIMALS HAVE THE FOOD AS WELL.

IT'S A HUMAN SERVICE NOT AN ANIMAL SERVICE.

WE'RE DOING THIS FOR ANIMALS.

NEED THE SERVICES BECAUSE - THEY CAN'T AFFORD IT.

>> THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH.

>> YES, SIR. >> WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO HEAD OVER TO VICKI AND HAVE HER AS THE REPRESENTATIVE OF THE BUDGETS OF FRAME WHAT'S NEXT.

>> GOOD MORNING. HAYS COUNTY BUDGET OFFICER.

WE HAVE ONE DEPARTMENT SIGNED UP TO SPEAK REGARDING ADDITIONAL REQUEST. THE COUNTY CLERK SIGNED UP TO SPEAK AT 11:00 REGARDING NEW POSITIONS.

WE HAVE TWO SOCIAL SERVICE AGENCIES SIGNED UP TO SPEAK TODAY. I DID INCLUDE THEIR ORIGINAL BRANT APPLICATIONS IN YOUR PACKET.

I ALSO WANTED TO POINT OUT THAT IN THE COUNCIL FOR THE INDIGENOUS COMMUNITY THEY DID SEND LETTERS OF SUPPORT AND I INCLUDED THOSE IN THE PACKET AS WELL.

>> WE ALSO HAVE THE HR DEPARTMENT HERE TO DISCUSS THE ELECTED OFFICIAL SALARY ALLOWANCES.

>> THANK YOU. WHAT I WILL DO THEN, THE FIRST APPOINTMENT WILL BE DR. CARDEAS.

WE HAVE ONE INDIVIDUAL SIGNED UP TO SPEAK.

AND WE WILL HAVE HIM SPEAK FIRST AND THEN THE PRESENTATION. HOW IS THAT?

FOR CONTINUITY. >> THANK YOU.

>> I'M HERE TODAY TO ASK YOU TO RECONSIDER ONE OF OUR BUDGET REQUEST, WHICH WAS FOR TWO NEW POSITIONS IN MY OFFICE. I'M AFRAID THAT GOT OVERLOOKED PROBABLY BECAUSE THEY WERE PART OF A MUCH LARGER REQUEST AND PLAN. THAT INCLUDED SOME UPGRADING AND SALARY CHANGES AND MOVING PEOPLE AROUND QUITE A BIT IN NEW POSITIONS. THESE TWO POSITIONS ARE REALLY QUITE ESSENTIAL TO OUR OFFICE.

AND I WILL EXPLAIN WHY. WHAT I'M ASKING FOR IS REALLY THAT THEY ARE JUST DEPUTY CLERK 3.

WHICH SUPERVISED REPOSITIONS IN OUR OFFICE.

ONE IN RECORDS ONE IN THE COURTS.

I THINK I'VE LET YOU KNOW OVER THE YEARS THIS WAS COMING. BECAUSE ANYTIME THERE'S AN INCREASE IN POPULATION IT HAS DIRECT IMPACT ON US.

AND ANYTIME THERE'S A CHANGE IN THE COURT SHOULD THE D.A.'S OFFICE IT HAS AN IMPACT ON US.

IN THE RECORDS SIDE WE'RE ASKING FOR APPROVAL OF DEPUTY CLERK THREE POSITION TO HEAD UP THE VITALS GROUP.

I LET YOU KNOW LAST YEAR THE WORK IN THE RECORDS DIVISION INCREASED BY 30% OVER TWO YEARS.

THIS YEAR THE VITALS WORK IN OUR OFFICE HAS DOUBLED OVER LAST YEAR ALREADY. AND WE'RE JUST IN AUGUST.

IT'S BECOMING QUITE CRITICAL THAT WE HAVE AN ADDITIONAL PERSON TO HELP WITH THAT AND PREPARE FOR THE FUTURE.

I HEARD A PRESENTATION BY THE SUPERINTENDENT OF THE HAYS CISD ON GROWTH IN THE COUNTY AND THE NEW SCHOOLS COMING IN. HE'S PROJECTING A MILLION BOOM IN CENTRAL TEXAS. I ASSUME THAT'S BEYOND HAYS.

A MILLION NEW PEOPLE BY 2030.

MORE THAN ONE NEW SCHOOL A YEAR IN THE COUNTY.

ALL OF THAT HAS A DIRECT IMPACT ON US.

AND PARTICULARLY ON VITALS. BECAUSE OF THE BIRTH CERTIFICATES AND THINGS WE NEED TO ISSUE AS WELL AS JUST MARRIAGE LICENSES FOR PEOPLE ENTERING THE AREA.

IN THE COURT SIDE I LET YOU KNOW OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS, THAT WE HAVE BEEN REQUESTED TO HAVE TEAMS THAT ARE ASSIGNED TO EACH COURTROOM.

EACH OF THREE COUNTY COURTS OF LAW THAT WE SERVE.

AND WE'VE BEEN OKAY PRIMARILY BECAUSE OF COVID.

BUT THINGS ARE KICKING IN. AND IF WE HAVE A TEAM IN EACH COURT, WE NEED TO HAVE BACK UP FOR THEM TOO WHEN THEY ARE ON VACATION OR OUT SICK AND WE DO HAVE STAFF BACK IN THE OFFICE DOING E-FILING AND SERVING CLIENTS THAT COME TO THE WINDOWS. THIS IS THE TIME WHERE WE REALLY NEED THIS THIRD PERSON FOR THE THIRD COURTROOM FOR JUDGE O'BRIEN'S OFFICE.

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IMPORTANT BECAUSE OF THE ADDITION OF THE MENTAL HEALTH COURT WHICH THEY'VE ADDED A LOT OF STAFF AND WE EXPECT TO HAVE MUCH INCREASED WORKLOAD THERE.

AND IT DOES REQUIRE SOME ADDITIONAL SPECIAL TECHNOLOGIES OR APPROACHES INCLUDING SEALED RECORDS.

THIS PERSON WOULD HANDLE ALL OF THE SEALED RECORDS INCLUDING JUVENILE RECORDS FOR US.

THOSE ARE THE TWO POSITIONS; THE ONE IN RECORDS.

WE WOULD FIND OUT IF RECORD'S MANAGEMENT.

AND THE OTHER WE WOULD FUND OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND AND IF TOTAL COST THAT VICKI WORKED UP FOR ME PER PERSON WOULD FULLY LOADED WOULD BE $56,147.00.

THAT'S BASICALLY MY REQUEST FOR THOSE TWO POSITIONS TO BE RECONSIDERED AND ADDED BACK INTO THE BUDGET FOR THE COMING YEAR. I THINK -- IT'S REALLY PRETTY ESSENTIAL FOR OUR OFFICE WITH THE INCREASE,

DEMAND IN WORKLOAD. >> HAPPY TO ANSWER

QUESTIONS. >> COMMISSIONER INGALSBE.

>> I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.

I APPRECIATE OUT SHARING THE INFORMATION.

AND JUDGE O'BRIEN'S OFFICE AND MENTAL HEALTH.

I KNOW THERE'S ADDITIONAL WORK THERE.

THANK YOU. >> I'M FINE.

>> I'M GOOD. >> I WOULD SAY THAT I CAN UNDERSTAND THE NEED FOR THE POSITIONS.

ALSO UNDERSTAND THE NEED FOR THE POSITIONS IN OUR

SATELLITE OFFICES. >> WE WILL BE FILLING THOSE

SOON. >> YOU KNOW, ESPECIALLY DRIPPING SPRINGS, IS THE YOU KNOW, THEY ARE PROUD TO SAY THEY ARE THE WEDDING CAPITAL OF TEXAS.

AND WE HAD A LARGE NUMBER SINCE WE HAVEN'T HAD ANY PERSONAL THERE COME INTO MY OFFICE WANTING A MARRIAGE LICENSE. AS SOON AS WE CAN GET THOSE BACK, WE WOULD GREATLY APPRECIATE IT.

>> I'M REALLY HAPPY TO ANNOUNCE THAT WE DO HAVE TWO NEW PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN IN TRAINING THAT WILL GO INTO WIMBERLY AND ONE TO DRIPPING SPRINGS.

WE'LL HAVE BACK UP FOR THEM TOO.

DO YOU KNOW HOW SOON WE WILL BE READY?

>> WE WILL MAN DRIPPING SPRINGS THIS NEXT WEEK.

>> NEXT WEEK. >> I'M REALLY HAPPY TO TELL

YOU THAT. >> WHAT ABOUT PRECINCT 2?

>> PRECINCT 2? >> STILL WORKING ON THAT.

[INAUDIBLE] WE'VE ALSO PUT IN PLACE A BACK UP IF THEY HAVE QUESTIONS OR RUN INTO PROBLEMS THEY ARE NEW. THEY WILL HAVE SOMEONE THEY

CAN CONTACT, A MENTOR. >> JUST FOR THE VIEWING PUBLIC. I WOULD HATE FOR SOMEONE TO LOOK BACK AND SAY GOLLY, JUDGE, WHY DIDN'T YOU -- CAN

YOU RECAP WHAT SHE SAID? >> MY ASSISTANT OR MY DEPUTY CYNTHIA, CHIEF OF STAFF IN MY OFFICE HAS SAID THAT WE WILL BE PUTTING STAFF IN THE WIMBERLY AND DRIPPING SPRINGS OFFICES IN DRIPPING SPRINGS, PROBABLY BY NEXT WEEK. WE'VE ACCELERATED OUR TRAINING PROGRAMS SO WE CAN GET PEOPLE IN PLACE FASTER, GIVEN THE TURN OVER WE'VE EXPERIENCED THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY. AND WE'RE ALSO AS I SAID WE WILL BE OFFERING SOME BACK UP TO THEM SO IF THEY RUN INTO PROBLEMS, THAT THEY -- NEW TO THEM OR UNFAMILIAR THERE'S SOMEONE THEY CAN GET AHOLD OF RIGHT AWAY. I'M HAPPY TO ANNOUNCE TOO THAT WE ARE SIMPLIFYING SOME OF OUR PROCEDURES SO THEY CAN BE DONE MORE EASILY ONLINE.

I THINK YOU APPROVED A CONTRACT FOR THAT.

IT'S NOT A CONTRACT. IT'S AN AGREEMENT.

IT'S NO CHARGE TO STATE. WE EXPECT TO BE THE FIRST COUNTY RATHER IN THE -- ONE OF THE FIRST COUNTIES IN THE STATE THAT WILL BE ABLE TO DO MARRIAGE LICENSES.

THAT WILL HELP OUT A LOT IN DRIPPING SPRINGS.

IN THE PAST THEY HAD TO COME INTO THE OFFICE AND GET THE MARRIAGE LICENSES IN PERSON. BUT IT'S NOW ALLOWED BY THE TATE TO DO THEM REMOTELY AS LONG AS YOU ARE CERTIFIED.

>> SINCE YOU SOMEONE AS THE BACK UP RIGHT NOW, YOU KNOW, I CAN TELL YOU THAT WITH SOME OF O OUR CONSTABLE OFFICES AND JP OFFICES AS THEY HAVE THE NEW PERSONAL IN THEM PERFECT EXAMPLE IS JENNIFER AND JENNIFER SCOTT AND COMMISSIONER JONES' OFFICE AS WE BROUGHT ON NEW EXECUTIVE ASSISTANCE FOR THE COMMISSIONERS, SHE'S REALLY BEEN A PHENOMENAL BACK UP FOR THEM.

SHE'S HELPED TRAIN EACH ONE OF THEM FROM HIS OFFICE AND SO MY QUESTION WOULD BE IF YOU HAVE THAT, PERSONAL WHO WILL BE BACK UP. WHO WILL BE COULD THEY BE TAKE CARE OF COMMISSIONER JONES' PROBLEM AND BE LOCATED IN KYLE WHEN THEY DO THAT?

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AND THAT MIGHT KILL TWO BIRDS WITH ONE STONE.

>> WHAT DO YOU THINK? [INAUDIBLE] NOW YOU HAVE TO STATE YOUR NAME AND TITLE.

>> JUST TRYING TO SOLVE BOTH PROBLEMS AT THE SAME TIME.

>> ABSOLUTELY. I'M THE ASSISTANT COUNTY CLERK. THANK YOU FOR THE SUGGESTION AND RECOMMENDATION. WE WILL LOOK AT THAT -- SO FAR WE'VE HAD TO KEEP THE MAIN OFFICE OPEN.

OUR DESIGNATED BACK UPS WE HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO PUSH FORWARD. BUT I WILL GO BACK, RELOOK AT EVERYTHING. LOOK FOR AN UPDATE WHEN WE CAN REOPEN KYLE. I WILL GET THAT ANSWERED FOR YOU BY OUR NEXT SESSION. THANK YOU.

ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? >> THANK YOU.

>> I BELIEVE WITH ALL THE COMPLEXITIES AND THE PUSH OF THE COURT TO SUPPORT THE NEW COURT SYSTEM AND SUPPORT THE MENTAL HEALTH COURT AND SUPPORT ALL THE DIFFERENT THINGS WE ARE DOING IN THE JUDICIAL SYSTEM.

PEOPLE SOMETIMES FORGET THAT THOSE ARE ALL SUPPORTED BY OUR CLERK'S OFFICES. AND SO THANK YOU FOR THE REMINDER. THANK YOU FOR THE REMINDER, COMMISSIONER SMITH ABOUT THE SATELLIGHT OFFICES.

I MEAN IT'S A COMPLEX OPERATION.

AND IT'S A TOUGH THING TO BE DOING RIGHT NOW.

I AGREE. >> VICKI, I LOOK AT YOUR CALENDAR AND TIME SHEET. I SEE -- I WILL OPEN UP TO THE INDIVIDUAL SIGNED UP TO SPEAK.

MR. FRANK. IF YOU WILL PLEASE APPROACH THE PODIUM. YOU SIGNED UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS. THEN AFTER FRANK YOU CAN

START YOUR PRESENTTION. >> GOOD MORNING, COMMISSIONERS AND JUDGE. I'M ONE OF 7 MEMBERS OF SIDSY. I WANT TO THANK THE JUDGE AND THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT FOR HAVING OUR ORGANIZATION ACTIVE HERE IN HAYS COUNTY. WE HAVE BEEN DOING A LOT OF THINGS. WE HAVE RECENTLY PARTNERED WITH THE EL CAMINO REAL ORGANIZATION THAT SUPPORTS CAMINO REAL THROUGHOUT TEXAS.

WE ARE MEMBERS, SEVERAL OF US ARE MEMBERS OF THEIR ORGANIZATION. IN WORKING WITH THEM, WE WERE INSTRUMENTAL IN GETTING HISTORICAL MARKERS IN THE WAREHOUSE FOR SEVERAL YEARS TO BE ERECTED.

IF YOU'VE DRIVEN AND OUR AREA.

YOU'VE SEEN THE MARKERS ALONG THE CAMINO REAL, TEXAS. WE ALSO THROUGH THE WORK THAT SOME OF THE MEMBERS HAVE MADE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO GET AN AWARD FROM THE TEXAS COMMISSION ON -- HISTORICAL COMMISSION. WE HAVE BEEN ACTIVE.

WE MEET AT LEAST ONCE A MONTH IF NOT MORE.

AND WE WORKING ON PROJECTS. GETTING MARKERS UP.

GETTING THE INFORMATION SO IT CAN BE APPROVED AND JUST TRYING TO RECOGNIZE THE INDIGENOUS COMMUNITY THAT WE'RE PART OF AND TO MAKE THEM KNOWN TO ALL OF TEXAS AND ALL OF THOSE WHO VISIT US.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. >> THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> I DO HAVE SOME LETTER OF SUPPORT FOR THIS. AFTER YOUR PRESENTATION.

>> GOOD MORNING. COMMISSIONS AND JUDGE.

THANK YOU FOR THE INDIGENOUS TO SHARE THE WORK WE'VE BEEN DOING IN THE COMMUNITY. INCLUDING WORK CLOSELY WITH THE INDIGENOUS CULTURES INSTITUTE.

I'M GINA ALVA ROGERS. WITH ME IS OUR FOUNDING MEMBERS. WE'RE HERE TO SHARE WITH YOU AND ALL OF HAYS COUNTY POPULATION APPROXIMATELY 255,400 RESIDENTS OUR MISSION TO PRESERVE THE RICH CULTURE AND HISTORY OF THE INDIGENOUS COMMUNITY WITHIN THE COUNTY. OUR VOLUNTEERS DO EXTENSIVE RESEARCH AND CONDUCT ORAL HISTORIES THAT ALLOW US TO ADDRESS HISTORICAL GAPS AND DOCUMENT UNTOLD STORIES.

BY SPONSORING APPLICATIONS FOR UNDER TOLD HISTORICAL MARKERS. WE DEVELOP CULTURAL EDUCATION AND ART PROJECT INCLUDING THE SUMMER EXHIBIT A THE LGJ MUSEUM CURRENTLY ON DISPLAY HERE IN SAN MARCOS. THAT PROVIDES RELEVANT LEARNING OPPORTUNITIES. WE ENSURE THAT FUTURE

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GENERATIONS HERE INCLUDE STORIES ABOUT OUR COMMUNITY FROM DIVERSE VIEWPOINT. EVEN BEFORE SIDSI EXISTED A FEW OF US WERE DOING THE WORK TO CREATE BROADER STROKE OF UNITED H IFK THAT ALSO INCLUDES THE INDIGENOUS PEOPLE. IN EARLY 2021 SOME OF US IN THIS COURTROOM STOOD BEFORE YOU TO ASK THAT YOU ALLOW US TO KEEP TELLING THE STORIES. AND DESPITE THEIR HISTORICAL VALUE IN EDUCATING COMMUNITY THE STORY OF OUR ANCESTORS WERE NOT BEING TOLD NOR PRIORITIZED AMONG TRADITIONAL CHANNEL. WE WERE PASSIONATE ABOUT CHANGING THAT. AND SIDSY HAS GIVEN A PLATFORM TO MAKE IT HAPPEN. MY FAMILY LIVED IN HAYS COUNTY FOR 120 YEARS. OWNED NEARLY 1,000 ACRES.

DONATED LAND FOR A SCHOOL AND HELPED ESTABLISH THE SAINT MARTIN CHURCH IN DRIPPING SPRINGS.

AND YET THEY WERE NOT NORMALLY RECOGNIZED NOT EVEN A FOOTNOTE IN TEXAS HISTORY. THAT'S JUST ONE EXAMPLE.

THERE'S HUNDREDS OF THEM. A BIG UNDERTAKING.

ALSO INCLUDING THE TOWNING NEWFOUND INFORMATION ON THE EARLY 1809. WHEN ORIGINAL SETTLERS ARRIVED AND LAID OUT A SQUARE ON THE SAN MARCOS RIVER WHERE THE FIRST CENSUSES TAKEN AT ONE OF THE MANY TRAILS THAT INDICATED THE EL CAMINO TRAIL.

WE'RE HERE FOR THE FIRST TIME TO ASK FOR FUNDING FROM YOUR COURT TO BENEFIT OUR COMMUNITY AND TO HELP US MAKE A DIFFERENCE IN REACHING HISTORICALLY EXCLUDED RESIDENTS AND TAX PAYERS.

SIDSY SEES THE ROLE TO SERVE AND TO SHOW OUR DEDICATION TO THE COMMUNITY BECAUSE WE'RE DOING OUR DUTY.

I'VE BEEN ASKED TO SHARE SUPPORT LETTERS FROM DR. FRANK AND GONZALEZ. BOTH ARE TEXAS HISTORIANS.

AND HAVE PUBLISHED EXTENSIVELY ON SPANISH, MEXICAN AND REPUBLIC ERA TEXAS.

AND HAVE DEVOTED THEIR CAREERS TO EDUCATING AND SHARING THAT KNOWLEDGE. CATHY PITTMAN DELEON SENT A LETTER OF SUPPORT. AND WITH SIDSY HELP HER FAMILY APPLIED FOR HISTORICAL MARKER FOR THE RANCH IN KYLE. THAT THE TEXAS HISTORICAL COMMISSION GRANTED EARLIER THIS YEAR.

AND IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO READ THOSE LETTERS WHENEVER

YOU ARE READY. >> THREE LETTERS.

>> THE FIRST REGENT PROFESSOR IN TEXAS STATE UNIVERSITY. HE WRITES, MISS GINA ALVA ROGERS, HAS ASKED ME TO WRITE SUPPORT IN CITC APPLICATION FOR A GRANT FROM THE COURT TO CONTINUE THE WORK THEY ARE DOING TO PRESERVE AND PROMOTE THE RICH NATIVE AND MEXICAN-AMERICAN HERITAGE OF HAYS COUNTY WHICH REMAINS UNDER REPRESENTED IN THE HISTORICAL RECORD. I WORKED WITH MISS ALBA ROGER ON A NUMBER OF PROJECT INCLUDING THE SUCCESSFUL EFFORT TO PROPERLY RECOGNIZE THE FIRST HISPANIC SETTLEMENT IN THE COUNTY SAN MARCOS BY UPDATING AND REINSTALLING THE COMMISSION MARKER FOR THE TOWN'S FOUNDER, AWARDING HISTORICAL MARKER IN STORY PROGRAM FOR THE COUNTY. GREATER ATTENTION TO INDIGENOUS ROOTS OF THE TRAILS.

THERE ARE MANY LOCAL ORGANIZATIONS THAT MEAN WELL FOR A VARIETY OF REASONS DON'T ACHIEVE THE GOOD RESULTS THEY STRIVE FOR. CITC IS NOT AMONG THEM.

I HAVE BEEN IMPRESSED WITH THE PASSIONATE EARNESTEST MIST ALBA ROGER BRINGS TO Y- THE WORK.

IT'S WORK WORTHY OF YOUR RESPECT AND SUPPORT.

HAYS COUNTY INCREASINGLY DIVERSE PLACE WITH A QUICKLY NEEDS TO BE INFORMED AND INVESTED IN THE AREAS RICH HISTORY. THAT'S PRECISELY WHAT CITC IS ATTEMPTING TO ESTABLISH. MOSTLY THROUGH THE VOLUNTEER EFFORTS OF CONCERNED CITIZENS.

IN SUPPORTING IF WORK OF CITC IS COURT IS NOT ONLY RECOGNIZING THE GOOD WORK THE COUNCIL FOR THE INDIGENOUS COMMUNITY IS DOING BUT SIGNALLING THE REST OF THE COUNTY'S RESIDENTS TO BE IMPORTANCE OF PRESERVING AND PROMOTING THE AREA'S HISTORY AND CULTURE. I HOPE YOU AGREE WITH ME.

THE VITAL IMPORTANCE OF THE NEW AREA RESIDENTS ON HERITAGE AND GIVE THE FUNDING REQUEST.

THE NEXT LETTER FROM KATHY PITTMAN DELEON AND FAMILY OF KYLE TEXAS. I'M WRITING YOU IN SUPPORT OF THE WORK DONE BY THE LOCAL COUNCIL FOR THE INDIGENOUS COMMUNITY. MY FAMILY WORKING WITH LOCATION AND STATE ORGANIZATION TO HELP RESEARCH DOCUMENT PROTECT AND GAIN RECOGNITION FOR THIS HISTORICALLY SIGNIFICANT CEMETERY.

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BACK IN 2016 TO 20 17 I FOUND HISTORY FROM FATHER NATIVE AMERICAN AND HISPANIC ROOTS.

AFTER GETTING SOME HELP FROM A COUSIN I FOUND OUR OLDEST RELATIVE WAS PEDRO VER CRUZ. LITTLE DID I KNOW HOW AMAZING HIS STORY WOULD BE. ACCORDING TO FAMILY TREE WEB SITE MAINTAINED BY OUR COUSIN.

PEDRO WAS BURIED THE RANCH HAND CEMETERY IN THE PASTOR SOUTH OF KYLE. THIS PERPLEXED US DUE FACT WE LIVE ADJACENT TO PROMPT IN QUESTION.

AFTER COORDINATING WITH THE RANCH MANAGER FOR A SITE VISIT WITH SOME HELP FROM THE "T" HC HISTORICAL CEMETERY PRESERVATION TEAM, WE DISCOVERED THE CEMETERY WAS APPROXIMATELY 1600 FEET FROM THE HOUSE I GREW UP IN.

WE HEARD RUMOR NATIVE AMERICAN GRAVE YARD BEING ON THE PASTOR. FOR YEARS WE WOULD CATCH TRESPASSERS GOING THROUGH OUR PROPERTY ON THE WAY TO PASTOR. PERSONS LOOKING FOR CULTURE RESOURCES ERA POINTS, BONES, BEEDS, ET CETERA.

OUR FIRST VISIT WAS AMAZING SEEING LARGE GROWTH OF IRISES STILL PRESENT AFTER 100 YEARS.

LARGE LIMESTONES. THE CEMETERY LARGE IN SIZE COVERING ONE ACRE. THIS HEAD STONE WAS VERY SPECIAL TO US. LIKE REUNION OF SORTS.

SILENTLY THINKING TOO MYSELF AT THE TIME, WE ARE FINALLY HERE, WE FOUND YOU. WE WILL TAKE CARE OF YOU ALL NOW. THE RANCH MANAGER WHO ASSISTED US THAT DAY TOLD AN AMAZING STORY OF HOW HE DISCOVERED THE CEMETERY AS THE YOUNG MAN IN THE 1950S.

PEDRO WAS THE SOLDIER DURING THE TEXAS REVOLUTION AND ASSOCIATED WITH GENERAL SANTA ANA.

HIS STORY LATER CORROBORATED BY HIS COUSIN.

PEDRO 11-YEAR-OLD BOY CHARGED WITH HELPING GUARD THE MEAL TRAIN. WHEN ASKED ABOUT THE UNMARKED GRAVES; HE BELIEVE THE REST WAS RANCH HANDS OF MEXICAN DESCENT AND AFRICAN-AMERICAN SLAVES.

WHILE WORKING WITH THE LOCAL COUNCIL FOR THE INDIGENOUS COMMUNITY WE OBTAINED FURTHER INFORMATION FROM RESEARCH ON HOW AMAZING PEDRO WAS.

WE FOUND WRITTEN ACCOUNTS OF HIS EXPERIENCE WHILE PARTICIPATING IN THE SEIGE OF THE ELMO AS THE YOUNG BOY. THE FINDING OF LOW AND SAN ANTONIO RETURNING YEARS LATER IN THE 1860'S FOR MEXICO TO MARRY HER. WE DISCOVERED HE WAS A CATTLE OWNER WITH HIS OWN CATTLE BRAND.

HOW HIS SON TRAGICALLY DIED AT YOUNG AGE OF 19 AND BURIED NEXT TO HIS FATHER. WHETHER DUE TO OVERSIGHT DISREGARD OR OVERLOOK THIS HISTORY HAS BEEN LEFT OUT OF MOST HISTORICAL WORKS. WE CAN'T CHANGE THE CULTURE BY US OR INEQUALITY SPANNING 140 YEARS.

BUT WE CAN WORK TO RECOGNIZE AND HONOR THOSE WHO EVERY BIT OF RESPONSIBILITY FOR PUTTING KYLE AND THE REST OF HAYS COUNTY ON THE MAP AS THE PREVIOUSLY ESTABLISHED FOUNDERS DO. I SEE NO GREATER INJUSTICE THAN ALLOWING HISTORIES LIKE THIS TO CONTINUE TO BE OVERLOOKED DISREGARDED OR FORGOTTEN.

GOD WILLING I PRAY NOW FIND THE WORK CITV WORTHY OF GRANT TO CONTINUE THEIR WORK.

I KNOW THAT IT WILL BRING GREAT HONOR AND DIGNITY TO FAMILIES IN THE COMMUNITY THEY SERVE.

OUR INDIGENOUS ANCESTORS WORKED RELENTLESSLY TO GET OUR FAMILIES WHERE THEY ARE NOW.

IT'S TIME TO RETURN IT. >> THE THIRD ONE IS FROM JOHN MCKEERNAN GONZALEZ WHO IS ASSOCIATE PROFESSOR OF HISTORY AND DIRECTOR OF THE CENTER FOR CENTER OR THE SOUTHWEST. CHEERS, GREETING AND SAL YOUTATIONS. I AM WRITING TO REQUEST YOUR ONGOING FINANCIAL AND INSTITUTIONAL SUPPORT FOR THE COUNCIL FOR INDIGENOUS COMMUNITY BY HAYS COUNTY COMMISSIONERS. THE POPULATION IN HAYS COUNTY IS GROWING IN NUMBER AND DIVERSITY EVERY WEEK.

AND MANY OF THESE NEW RESIDENT HAVE DEEP ROOTS IN CENTRAL TEXAS. SOME DATING BACK TO TIME AND MEMORIAL ARE THE WORLD WAR I PERIOD.

IT BEHOOVES THE COUNTY TO MAINTAIN HISTORICAL LANDSCAPE THAT REFLECTS A KEY STAKEHOLDERS IN EMERGING COMMUNITIES. IT'S MY STRONG IMPRESSION THAT THE PEOPLE INVOLVED IN THE CITC ARE PROVIDING A KEY BRIDGE AND SERVICE LINKING THE COMPLICATED EVENTS OF 19TH CENTURY TEXAS TO DIFFERENT SENSIBILITIES IN HAYS COUNTY. I PARTICULARLY WANT TO

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COMMEND THE CITC FOR THEIR WORK IN ADDRESSING ELEMENTARY SCHOOL AGED CHILDREN AND THEIR FAMILIES.

FOR CREATING HISTORICALLY GROUNDED SOURCED EDUCATIONAL MATERIAL. THAT WILL ALLOW FAMILY AND STUDENT ANOTHER WAY TO CONNECT TO THEIR SCHOOLS, THEIR COMMUNITIES AND THE PUBLIC STORIES OF HAYES COUNTY. MORE OVER THE FOCUS ON INDIGENOUS COMMUNITIES ALLOWS PEOPLE WHO MAY NOT KNOW HOW CENTRAL HAYS COUNTY INDIGENOUS COMMUNITIES WERE TO THE MAKING OF TEHANOY COMMUNITY.

REINSTATED SLAVERY AS THE LOSS OF THE LAND AND THEN HAVE SLAVERY OVERTHROWN IN HAYS AS WELL AS ACROSS THE UNITED STATES. MORE OVER THE GROWTH OF CATTLE TRAILS AND RAILROADS DEMONSTRATE THE ROLE OF SAN MARCOS, KYLE AND BUTTE AS HUSBANDS FOR THE TRANSPORT ECONOMY AS WELL AS THE STRUGGLE RANCH AND RAILROAD UNDERTOOK TO MAKE THEIR WORK VISIBLE.

THE CITC ALSO PLAYS A ROLE CONNECTING COMMUNITIES ESPECIALLY THOSE THAT HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO PLAY A DECISION-MAKING ROLE, RELATIVE TO THEIR PRESENCE IN HAYS COUNTY. BY HAVING INDIGENOUS AS PART OF THEIR TITLE. CITC IS HELPING TO MAKE THESE COMMUNITIES MORE VISIBLE IN HAYS AS WELL AS ACROSS TEXAS. MORE OVER, THE STAFF AND VOLUNTEERS FOR CITC HAVE DONE ADMIRAL AND IMPRESSIVE WORK WITH OUR INITIAL 1500. PLETHORA OF MARKER AND THE PUBLIC SQUARE AND THE DEVELOPMENT OF A COMMUNITY ENGAGED EDUCATIONAL INFRASTRUCTURE IS STUNNING GIVEN THAT HOSTING AN EVENT CAN COST ANYWHERE BETWEEN 300 AND 2000. THE CITC AND ABRAVE -- ABBREVIATED WORK. THE RELATIONSHIP IS CITC HAS FORGED WITH HISTORY STAKEHOLDERS ACROSS TEXAS CAN ONLY STRENGTHEN THE VISIBILITY AND IMPORTANCE OF HAYS COUNTY IN THE BROADER PUBLIC EYE.

IN MY WORK FOR THE CENTER OF THE SOUTH WEST, IT'S THE MISSION TO PROMOTE BROAD HUMAN STATISTIC INQUIRY INTO THE PHYSICALLY CULTURAL DIVERSE PEOPLE OF THE SOUTHWEST. MANY OF OUR STUDENTS WANT TO INVOLVE THEMSELVES IN TASKS TO HELP THEM UNDERSTAND THEIR HISTORY MORE DEEPLY. THIS CITC SPEAKS TO A NEED THAT MANY STUDENTS ARE SEEKING TO ARTICULATE AS THEY SEEK TO PLACE THEMSELVES IN THE AMERICAN STORY. FOR ALL OF THESE REASONS I STRONGLY ENCOURAGE THE HAYS COUNTY COMMISSIONER'S COURT TO INVEST MORE HEAVILY IN THE DIGITAL INFRASTRUCTURE FOR RECORDING HISTORIES, MAKING EDUCATIONAL MATERIALS AND PUBLICIZING NETWORKING TO SHARE THE IMPRESSIVE WORK THEY HAVE DONE AND WILL CONTINUE THE DO.

IT'S IMPRESSIVE ESTABLISHMENT GIVEN THAT ONLY 10 ARE GRANTED EACH YEAR IN THE STATE THAT NUMBERS CLOSE TO 30 MILLION PEOPLE.

THIS CITC THE KIND OF TARGETED INVEST.

AND COMMUNITY ENGAGED PUBLIC GOODS THAT IS IDEAL FOR PUBLIC MONEY. THE CENTER FOR THE STUDY OF THE SOUTHWEST HOPES TO CONTINUE WORKING WITH THE CITC AS WELL AS MANY OTHER CULTURAL ORGANIZATIONS IN THE COUNTY. I HOPE HAYS COUNTY HELPS TO EXPAND THE CAPACITY OF CITC TO DO THE KIND OF PROJECTS THAT REFLECT THEIR MISSION. WONDERFUL.

>> THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR READING THOSE.

I THINK WE CAN START WITH THE POWERPOINT.

>> BIRTH AND OCCUPATION OF THOSE ORIGINAL SETTLERS.

MOST OF THEM AND THIS IS INTERESTING TO NOTE MOST OWNED STOCK INCLUDING HORSES AND CATTLE AND SOME OF THEM WERE LEFT BEHIND TO RUN FARRELL AND REDISCOVERED BY IMMIGRANTS THAT SETTLED WHEN THEY ARRIVED LATER.

EL CAMINO REAL. FRANK TALKED ABOUT HOW MAY AND JUNE HOSTED OUTREACH MEETING AND ALSO THE

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NATIONAL PARK SERVICE RESULTING IN INSTALLATION OF 14 SIGNS THAT HAD BEEN HELD IN STORAGE FOR EIGHT YEARS.

ONE OF THOSE SIGNS THAT THE EL CAMINO REAL THERE'S SO MANY TRAILS. THEY ARE INDIGENOUS TRAILS THAT MAKE THEIR WAY FROM MEXICO.

WE HAD SEVERAL THAT TRAVELED THROUGH SAN MARCOS.

IT'S INTERESTING TO KNOW. WE HAVE TRAIL MARKER HONORED IN THE COURTHOUSE STEPS AND THAT'S ACTUALLY ONE OF THE ORIGINAL INDIGENOUS TRAILS. I JUST WANTED TO POINT THAT OUT. THERE'S -- WE ALSO HELD RECEPTION. ITS WAS RECEPTION THAT INCLUDED ART, MUSIC AND INDIGENOUS DANCERS.

THERE WAS HISTORICAL MARKER THAT MEMBERS OF SITSY SPONSORED THE NARRATIVE FOR FILING WITH THE TEXAS HISTORICAL COMMISSION. AND THEY ACTUALLY WERE A GROUP IN EARLY 1900 FANNED OUT ACROSS THE STATE OF TEXAS. AND THEY REPRESENTED MEXICAN-AMERICAN COMMUNITY TO PROVIDE -- COMMUNITY AID.

SCHOLARSHIPS, MUSICAL PERFORMANCES AND THEY CONTINUE TO RADIO MAIN UNIFYING FORCE AND SIGNIFICANT PART OF MEXICAN AMERICAN COMMUNITY.

IT'S THE PLAN TO APPLY FOR A HISTORICAL MARKER.

AND WE'RE ALSO PARTNERING WELLMENTRY SCHOOLS HERE IN SAN MARCOS TO SHARE THE EXHIBIT OF THE RANCH HANDS.

THAT WAY THE LOCAL SCHOOLS CAN SEE REAL-LIFE STORY OF THEIR HERITAGE. IN YELLOW ARE IN-KIND CONTRIBUTIONS MADE BY SITSJ COUNCILMEMBERS.

WE PREPARED PROCLAMATIONS. WE'VE HAD A CITY RECREATIONAL HALL RENAMING. ESPINOZA COMMUNITY HALL.

IT WAS GRANTED BASED ON SITSY'S RESEARCH.

THERE'S A RENAMING OF THE RECREATIONAL HALL.

THIS WAS DURING THE COVID SYSTEM.

WE WERE EVEN BUSY DURING 2021 AND 2022.

CELEBRATION OF UP DIGNOUS PEOPLES SAY HELD AT THE CENTER. REGISTERED TO ATTEND THE FEBRUARY 2022 REAL PLACES CONFERENCE AND THAT WAS FOR ONE DAY. THAT'S OUT-OF-POCKET EXPENSE. FURTHER ON YOU WILL SEE WHAT THE ACTUAL COST ARE TODAY FOR THE ONE-DAY EVENT FOR THE ENTIRE CONFERENCE. I WILL BE ASKING THE COUNCILMEMBERS TO PLEASE CONSIDER ALLOWING US TO ALL ATTEND. CITC WEB SITE FOR 2021 AND 2022. CREATED THE WEB SITE.

WE SPENT MORE THAN 80 HOURS CONTRIBUTING OUR TIME TO CREATE THIS WEB SITE. THE INTERNET DOMAIN ANNUAL SUBSCRIPTION. ONE WAS DONATED IN 2021.

AFTER CITC'S DONATION WE WERE ABLE TO GET THAT.

GRANTED BY THE TEXAS HISTORICAL COMMISSION.

AND WE ALSO SENT LETTERS OF SUPPORT FOR ADOPTION OF RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE DONATION OF SOUTH SIDE SCHOOL TO CENTRO CULTURE HISPANODE SAN MARCOS.

WE'VE PARTNERED, AGAIN, FRANK SPOKE ABOUT THIS WELL CAMINO REAL TO PROTECT BUILD A CONSTITUENCY AND PRESERVE THE RICH HISTORY OF THE INDIGENOUS PEOPLE.

THERE'S A MUSEUM ON DISPLAY AT LBJ MUSEUM.

WE PURCHASED THE SUPPLIES. WE HAD AN OPEN RECEPTION.

OPENING RECEPTION. WE HAD TO PURCHASE MUSEUM QUALITY POSTERS OR EXHIBITS TO DISPLAY THEM.

VOLUNTEERS SERVICE TO THE COMMUNITY VALUED MORE THAN $12,000 WITH ALL OF OUR MEMBERS CONTRIBUTING THEIR

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TIME AND MONEY AND EFFORT. WHAT ARE WE SPEAKING OF.

2021 HAYS COUNTY CENSUS. MORE THAN 255,400 RESIDENT.

40.6% ARE HISPANIC OR LATINO.

42% OF THE POPULATION WE ATTEMPT TO SHARE THE HISTORICAL KNOWLEDGE OF THEIR ANCESTORS.

IT'S INTERESTING, ALSO, TO POINT OUT THAT MORE THAN 25% SPEAK A LANGUAGE OTHER THAN THE ENGLISH IN THEIR HOME.

THAT IS A CONSIDERABLE AMOUNT.

CONSIDERING THAT THE LIKELIHOOD IT'S SPANISH.

BECAUSE OF THE COMMUNITY. THIS GROWING COMMUNITY.

THANK YOU. >> WHO IS PEDRO VIERA CRUZ.

HE WAS 11 YEARS WHEN HE FIRSTED VISITED BATTLE OF THE ALAMO. HE WAS MARRIED IN THIS COURTHOUSE. 1886.

1894 PREPARED LAST WILL IN SPANISH GETTING HORSE AND CATTLE TO CHILDREN. HE'S RECORDED IN THE CENSUS.

HE'S BURIED NEXT TO 19-YEAR-OLD SON IN RANCH HAND CEMETERY. THIS IS ABOUT HIS GRANDSON.

LUCIANA WHO WAS BORN IN CALDWELL.

HE GOT MARRIED IN HAYS COUNTY.

RANCH HAND WHO TRAVELED WITH BUFFALO BILL.

IT'S ABOUT PEDRO'S DAUGHTER, AND HER HUSBAND AND HER CHILDREN. THEY WERE MARRIED HERE IN HAYS COUNTY IN THIS COURTHOUSE IN 1886.

SHORTLY AFTER THERESA TURNED 15.

SPANISH OF HER FAMILY AND N- NEIGHBORS BIRTH, MARRIAGES AND DEATHS. HERE'S HER CHILDREN.

THREE GIRLS, THREE BOYS. THE STORIES ARE ALSO ABOUT ISABELLA GONZALEZ CRUZ THE WIFE OF WILLIAM BILL CRUZ AMBUSHED AND KILLED IN 1855. ISABELLA RECEIVED TRANSFER OF HUSBAND'S LIVESTOCK AND HORSES BECAUSE HE KNEW HE HAD A BOUNTY ON HIS HEAD. AND ONE OF THE WITNESSES TO THAT TRANSFER WAS THOMAS F. MCKINNEY.

HE WAS LISTED AS WITNESS WITH WIFE TO LIVESTOCK TRANSFER. MCKINNEY ALSO DEEDED TO ISABELLA 640 ACRE OF LAND THE YEAR BEFORE BILL WAS AMBUSHED, AND THE DEED TO THAT LAND GIVES THE EXACT LOCATION. IT SAYS TEN MILES NORTH-NORTHWEST FROM THE TOWN OF SAN MARCOS.

ISABELLA BECOME THE ONLY FEMALE LAND OWNER AND STOCK RAISER IN THE 1850S. SHE RAISED HER CHILDREN NEAR WIMBERLY AND DIED IN 1910. THESE ARE THE STORIES WE BEEN SHARING. MORE CURRENT ONE ARE OUTREACH MEETING. ATTENDANCE ACCORDING TO STEVEN GONZALEZ THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE EL CAMINO REAL. HE COMMENTED WE HAVE HIGHEST ATTENDANCE IN INTEREST ABOUT THE EL CAMINO REAL.

HE SAID AND ALSO THE LIVELIEST DISCUSSIONS.

IN THE PICTURE TOWN BOTTOM IS ERIN MARR AND KAREN WINDLER. THEY HAVE TRAILS HEADING NORTH. THERE'S QUITE A FEW IN ATTENDANCE. 14 SIGNS.

THANKFULLY, WE MET. MR. GONZALEZ AND HE COMMENTED THAT THERE WERE 14 SIGNS HE WASN'T SURE WHAT HAPPENED TO THEM. AND THEY HAD BEEN SENT TO COUNTY. THANKFULLY WE WERE ABLE TO GET THEM INSTALLED RECENTLY. THIS IS A PICTURE OF ESPINOZA. THE COMMUNITY HALL RENAMED AFTER HER. THIS MURAL OF A BUNCH OF OTHER LEADERS WITHIN THE COMMUNITY AND IT SOME OF THE RESEARCH WE DID TO FIND A PHOTO OF HER WHEN SHE WAS A YOUNG WOMAN. THAT ONE IS DISPLAYED TOWN MURAL. THIS WAS THE RECEPTION FOR THE INDIGENOUS CULTURES INSTITUTE ART EXHIBIT, OUR JOURNEY. WE ASSOCIATE OURSELVES WE'RE SO FORTUNATE AND BLESSED TO HAVE THEM AS OUR MENTORS.

I CAN'T TELL -- I CAN'T SPEAK HIGHLY ENOUGH ABOUT MARIA DR. GARZA. SINCE CITC WAS FOUNDED IN 2021 YOU SUPPORTED WITH PROCLAMATIONS AND RESOLUTION WE HOPE OUR STEADY PROGRESS SINCE THAT TIME HAS GIVEN

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YOU CONFIDENCE ABOUT THE DEDICATION TO ACHIEVING GOALS BY IMPROVING FINANCIAL SUPPORT YOU WILL HELP US CONTINUE TO SERVE HAYS COUNTY PEOPLE AND DEMONSTRATE YOUR COMMITMENT TO INVESTING IN A COMMUNITY THAT THRIVES THROUGH DIVERSITY.

THE BENEFICIARIES OF OUR WORK AND EFFORTS ARE THE COMMUNITY WE SERVE AND FUTURE GENERATIONS.

THIS THE DESCRIPTION OF THE NEED FOR FUNDING.

BEFORE WE BEGIN WITH THIS; IF ANYONE HAS ANY QUESTIONS, I WOULD IMAGINE, RIGHT NOW MIGHT BE A GOOD TIME.

>> THAT'S A GOOD STOPPING POINT.

>> COMMISSIONER, ANY COMMENTS SO FAR?

>> IT'S A GREAT PRESENTATION SO FAR.

>> THANK YOU. >> THE DESCRIPTION FOR -- NEED FOR FUNDING AND WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS DEVELOP EDUCATE AND PROMOTE THE DIVERSE HISTORY AND PREVENT IT FROM CONTINUED NEGLECT.

WE ARE SEEKING $14,654. KEEPING IN MIND THAT A GOOD PORTION OF OUR HOURS AND TIME HAVE BEEN DONATED TO THE COUNTY ALREADY EXCEED $12,000.

WE'RE ASKING FOR EQUIPMENT. EQUIPMENT THAT IS IN DIRE NEED. AS WELL ALL KNOW COMPUTERS ARE KICK CICLICAL. WE NEED TO REPLACE WHAT WE HAVE. PRINTER SCANNER DOCUMENT VIDEO EQUIPMENT. SOFTWARE, OF COURSE IS SO IMPORTANT TO HAVE. A RING LIGHT SO WE CAN CONDUCT OUR ORAL HISTORIES IN A MORE PROFESSIONAL MANNER AS OPPOSED TO JUST USING THE CELL PHONES.

SOFTWARE, MICROSOFT, BUSINESS VIMEO TO MAINTAIN ANNUAL WEB SITE AND ANNUAL DESCRIPTION FOR OUR DOMAIN.

A WEB SITE DESIGNER WOULD HELP.

IT'S NOT A NECESSARY BUT IT WOULD HELP.

SOCIAL MEDIA CONSULTANT WOULD HELP TO HAVE ONE.

REPLACE -- THIS IS THE ONE THING THAT I THINK AS WELL THAT WOULD BE IMPORTANT FOR CITC TO PARTICIPATE YEAR AFTER YEAR. THE CONFERENCES HELD EVERY YEAR BY THE TEXAS HISTORICAL COMMISSION.

THE TEXAS HISTORICAL COMMISSION IS A WONDERFUL RESOURCE AND THE PLACE FOR ANYONE WHO HAS AN INTEREST IN HISTORY TO GO AND LEARN AND NETWORK AND CONNECT.

FOR ONE DAY IT'S $275. FOR THE THREE-DAY EVENT IT'S $375. WE WOULD LIKE FOR ALL OF OUR COUNCILMEMBERS TO ATTEND. EARLY REGISTRATION ENDS AT THE END OF SEPTEMBER. AFTER SEPTEMBER THEN THE COST INCREASES CONSIDERABLY. WE WOULD LIKE TO -- WE HAVE AD-HOC COMMITTEES. ONE INCLUDE EDITOR AND WRITER. IT WOULD BE ABSOLUTELY LOVELY TO REIMBURSE HER AT SOME POINT BECAUSE SHE DOES SUCH A PHENOMENAL JOB WHEN WE'RE AT THE PLACE OF SENDING A NARRATIVE ON TO THE TEXAS HISTORICAL COMMISSION. OF COURSE, WE ARE ALWAYS LOOKING FOR NEW BOOKS, ARTICLES, AND ORIGINAL SOURCE MATERIAL TO DO THE WORK THAT WE ARE DOING.

THE RENTAL IS 14,65 #. WE JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR SUPPORT.

>> YOU DID A REALLY GOOD JOB OF EXPLAINING EVERYTHING THAT YOU AND THE ORGANIZATION DOES.

IT'S WONDERFUL THAT WE HAVE A GROUP DEDICATED TO THIS WORK. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. >> COMMISSIONER JONES?

>> UNDER FULL DISCLOSURE. CATHY IS RELATED TO ME THROUGH MARRIAGE WITH HER SON IS MY NEPHEW.

>> JUST FULL DISCLOSURE. I RECOGNIZE THAT.

SO ALSO THE FACT THAT YOU PEDRO VERA CRUZ IS PART OF

YOUR FAMILY HISTORY. >> HOW ABOUT THAT.

ISN'T THAT SOMETHING. >> COMMISSIONER?

>> THANKS FOR ALL YOU ARE DOING.

REALLY INTERESTING WORK IN A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME.

FASCINATING. I WOULD LOVE TO LEARN A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT SOME OF THE STUFF YOU PRESENTED.

>> I THINK THE COMMUNITY FEELS THE SAME.

THE COMMUNITY HAS A STRONG DESIRE TO HEAR THESE STORIES. AND I HAVE TO SAY WHAT I CAN'T FIND ONLINE I MAKE MY WAY TO THE GOVERNMENT CENTER. I DO RESEARCH.

I PULL BOOKS. I PULL RECORDS.

I SCAN PAGE BY PAGE. AND I'M LOOKING, LOOKING AND LOOKING AND THAT JUST REVEALS SO MUCH ABOUT THE COMMUNITY, CURRENTLY WHAT WE ARE WORKING ON IS ANOTHER ONE OF THOSE STORIES. I CAN'T WAIT TO SHARE IT.

>> THANK YOU. >> I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK. REALLY APPRECIATE THE WORK TOWN PREVIOUS UNTOLD MARKER IN THE DRIPPING SPRINGS AREA. I WOULD JUST ENCOURAGE YOU

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TO REACH OUT TO THE COMMISSIONERS ON EACH ONE OF THESE. YOU ARE DOING THINGS ALL OVER THE COUNTY. I KNOW FOR EXAMPLE THAT COMMISSIONER JONES WOULD BE MORE THAN INTERESTED IN THIS STOCK RACER UNTOLD MARKER BECAUSE OF BACKGROUND AND FAMILY HISTORY HERE. AND THAT'S HIS AREA OF SERVICE. AS YOU LOOK AT THESE THINGS, I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO LOOK TO THE COURT.

ALL OF US HAVE INTEREST IN IT.

>> I'M GLAD YOU SAY THAT. W HAVE ELECTED TO SUBMIT UNDERTOLD HISTORICAL MARKERS WHICH THERE'S NO COST FOR.

BUT THE ODDS OF RECEIVING ONE ARE VERY, VERY, VERY SLIM. AND WE WERE VERY FORTUNATE TO RECEIVE ONE AND YOU KNOW ALSO PARTICIPATING IN THE REMAKING OR THE REDOING OF THE HISTORICAL MARKER.

HAD WE NOT FOUND THAT CENSUS, HAD WE NOT FOUND THOSE NAMES, HAD WE -- THAT NEW HISTORICAL MARKER THAT WILL BE ERECTED. IT'S CURRENTLY IN THE PROCESS OF -- IT HASN'T MADE ITS WAY THERE YET.

BUT IT WILL GET THERE. IT'S AMAZING THE WORK THAT WE DO ENDS UP ON HISTORICAL MARKERS.

WE'RE PLEASED WITH THE RESEARCH THAT WE'VE BEEN

ABLE TO FIND. >> MY CLOSING COMMENTS WILL BE I AM GRATEFUL TO BE A WITNESS TO WHAT I HAVE LEARNED, ESPECIALLY BECAUSE I JUST CAME BACK FROM TRYINT

IN OUR >> IT WAS THE CAPITOL OF TEXAS.

IT WAS THE ONLY CONSTITUTION THAT WAS EVER WRITTEN IN MEXICO IN BOTH ENGLISH AND SPANISH. AND I GOT AN AUTOGRAPHED COPY FROM THE CURRENT LEADERSHIP. AND IT'S JUST SO NEAT TO SEE.

IT IS SUCH A BLESSING FOR ME AND MOST HUMBLING TO SEE WHERE WE ALL HAVE BEEN TO THIS FABRIC.

COMMISSIONER JONES? ABSOLUTELY.

WHAT OF IT. COMING OUT HERE AND TAKING A PICTURE WITH RELATIVES. I MEAN, WE ARE SO INTERWOVEN AS A COMMUNITY AND FOR THE HALF, FOR NOT NECESSARILY FALL ANYBODY ELSE'S, BUT THOSE WHO FELT MARGINALIZED, FORGOTTEN, OMITTED, I THINK THIS IS SUCH AN HONOR TO TELL FOLKS KNOW.

ARE AN ESSENTIAL PART OF OUR FABRIC OF OUR FOUNDING AND OUR COMMUNITY. I'M JUST SO HONORED TO BE A WITNESS TO ALL OF THE WORK THAT IS BEING DONE.

I THINK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR PRESENTATION.

>> THANK YOU JUDGE. >> THANK YOU COMMISSIONERS.

>> THANK YOU. AND VICKI, I AM GOING TO MOVE ON NOW TO THE PRICE SETTING. SO IF YOU WILL PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND TITLE FOR THE VIEWING PUBLIC AND YOU WILL HAVE THREE MINUTES FOR A PRESENTATION.

[LAUGHTER] JUST KIDDING.

>> GOOD MORNING AND THANK YOU. VICKI, CAN I HAVE THESE

HANDOUTS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT? >> YES, WE WILL HAVE THEM FOR YOU. THERE IS A SEPARATE REGION.

THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU JUDGE AND COMMISSIONERS. GOOD MORNING.

GOOD AFTERNOON.

[LAUGHTER] I JUST MADE IT.

SPECIAL THANKS TO COMMISSIONER ENGELS BAY AND TO VICKI FOR THEIR HELP IN GETTING THIS TIME ON THE AGENDA TODAY.

VERY, VERY MUCH APPRECIATED. WHAT YOU ARE GETTING IS NOT JUST THE APPLICATION THAT WAS TURNED AND PUT ALL THE FACTS AND FIGURES AND FIGURES ARE IN THE APPLICATION PACKET.'M NOT GONNA GO OVER A LOT OF THAT TODAY.

INSTEAD, I LIKE TO SHARE OUR STORY AND THEN OUR NEEDS.

ON DECEMBER 12 OF THIS YEAR, WE WILL BE CELEBRATING THE 20TH ANNIVERSARY OF THE OPENING OF THE PRICE CENTER.

OVER THE PAST TWO DECADES, THE PRICE CENTER HAS GROWN INTO A FULL-FLEDGED COMMUNITY CENTER WITH AN INTENTIONAL FOCUS ON THE VISUAL AND PERFORMING ARTS AMONG CULTURAL AND HERITAGE CELEBRATIONS THAT ARE UNIQUE TO THE GREATER SAN MARCUS COMMUNITY. TWO HERITAGE PECAN TREES ANCHOR THE CENTERS AND LARGE FRONT GARDEN.

ONE OF THE VERY FEW DOWNTOWN GREEN SPACES OTHER THAN YOUR OWN HERE. WHICH NOW FEATURES 11 PIECES OF PERMANENT AND PUBLIC ART. AND AN EVER BLOOMING DISPLAY OF NATIVE AND HYBRID SPECIMENS THAT DRAWS THOUSANDS OF VISITORS EACH YEAR.ROM DAILY SIGHTSEERS TO PASSING AND

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NESTING BIRDS. BUTTERFLIES AND BUMBLEBEES.

TO THE STUDENTS OF TEXAS STATE UNIVERSITY'S HORTICULTURE CLASS.OR ONE OF THEIR ANNUAL EXAMS EACH YEAR.

THE PRICE CENTERS GARDENS BEAUTY IS ANOTHER TRUE DOWNTOWN TREASURE. THE HISTORIC NATURE OF THE PROPERTY ÃÃDATING BACK TO 1893 PREDATING TEXAS STATE OLD NAMED BY FIVE YEARS. JUST SAYING.

OKAY? OFFER A GLIMPSE OF SAN MARCUS'S PAST. BOTH PRE-TURN OF THE 19TH AND POST-TURN OF THE 20TH CENTURY. COURSE PITCHES IN THE CURVE ÃÃ 19 TENT ROOM. AND DOORS, WINDOWS, AND FORCE IN OUR 1890 CAPITOL OFFER A TRUE VISUAL TREAT FOR SEEKERS OF HISTORY AND ARCHITECTURE. THE CENTER AS A COMMUNITY GATHERING PLACE WAS CELEBRATING CULTURAL AND SOCIAL AND INTERGENERATIONAL ENGAGEMENT VIA THE GARDEN, ROTATING COMMUNITY ART GALLERY AND MUSICAL THEATRICAL AND DANCE PERFORMANCES.INCE WE BEGAN OPERATIONS IN THE EARLY 2000'S ÃÃTHE ANNUAL OPERATING REVENUES HAVE COME FROM A VARIETY OF SOURCES.NCLUDING PRIVATE VENUE RENTALS.

ANNUAL DUES PAYING MEMBERS, INDIVIDUAL DONATIONS, GRANTS AND MORE RECENTLY I'M GOING SALES AND ART RESELLS SHOP AND ART GALLERY EFFORTS. PARTIALLY GRANT FUNDED PROGRAMS AND ACTIVITIES FOCUS ON THE ARTS ALONG WITH NINE HEALTHY ACTIVE LIVING CLASSES LIKE DANCE, YOGA, AND TAI CHI ARE AVAILABLE EACH WEEK OPEN TO ALL FOR FREE.

LAST YEAR ALONE, THOUSANDS OF HAYS COUNTY RESIDENTS AND THE FAMILIES AND GUESTS WERE AMONG THE THOUSANDS OF VISITORS TO THE PRICE CENTER. EVEN BETTER, OUR CLASSES COMING GATHERINGS, PRIVATE RENTALS NOW ROUTINELY INCLUDE MUCH MORE DIVERSITY INCLUDING CULTURE, AGE, RELIGION, RACE, ETHNICITY, AND GENDER. THE WIN FOR ALL OF US AS MANY MORE HEALTHY INTERACTIONS AND A GREATER APPRECIATION AND UNDERSTANDING BETWEEN THE VARIOUS CULTURES, AGE GROUPS, EDUCATION LEVELS, POLITICAL AND SOCIOECONOMIC BACKGROUNDS THAT MAKE UP THE CITIZENRY OF HAYS COUNTY.

WHILE THE CORE REPEAT DAILY, WEEKLY, AND MONTHLY USERS OF THE CENTER REMAINED LARGELY SENIORS ÃÃEXPANDED OFFERINGS AND MORE INTENTIONAL INCLUSIVE ACTIVITIES HAVE GREATLY DIVERSIFIED WHO NOW RUNS THE PRICE CENTER AND PARTICIPATES IN FREE AND PUBLIC EVENTS WITH US.

IN 2021, WE HOSTED 11 FREE COMMUNITY ART SHOWS THAT RANGED ANYWHERE FROM 30 TO 63 DAYS EACH.

AND CULTURAL EXHIBITS. INCLUDING A HISTORY OF THE SAN MARCUS MARDI GRAS. 1/4 ANNUAL WOMEN'S THEY ART SHOW AND THE INDIGENOUS CULTURES INSTITUTES NAPCO.

WHICH INCLUDED BEAUTIFUL NATIVE DANCE CEREMONY IN OUR GARDEN.

YORTY HEARD SOMEONE ABOUT THAT. IN ADDITION FROM THE PRICE CENTER SHOWCASED THE PERFORMING ARTS BY HOSTING FREE MUSICAL PERFORMANCES DURING ART SHOWS ON SECOND SATURDAYS AND CONJUNCTION WITH LARGER COMMUNITY SUBMISSIONS LIKE MARDI GRAS. THE MERMAID FESTIVAL AND OTHER SEASONAL OPPORTUNITIES LIKE CHRISTMAS.

IN 2021, WE OFFER 24 SEPARATE PERFORMANCES OF MUSIC, DANCE, AND OR THEATER. MOST FOR FREE.

TICKET EVENTS WERE $10 OR LESS. OUR ONGOING FUND RAISER SHOP 1893, A RESALE SHOP MADE UP OF DONATED ITEMS AND VENDOR BOOTHS HAS BECOME AN INTEGRAL PART OF OUR OPERATION BY PROVIDING ONGOING FUNDING, A WORTHY PLACE TO DONATE ITEMS TO AND INCOME GENERATORS FOR MORE THAN TWO DOZEN SMALL AREA BUSINESSES.

AND ANOTHER FUN AND ENGAGING AND INSPIRING PLACE TO VISIT IN DOWNTOWN SAN MARCUS. BY THE WAY BUT THERE ARE FEWER AND FEWER AND FEWER OF THOSE TODAY.

AS YOU WELL KNOW. LASTLY, OUR BEAUTIFUL AND UNIQUE BENDING VENUES PROVIDE AFFORDABLE ACCESS TO ALL AS THIS SITE FOR PRIVATE MILESTONE CELEBRATIONS INCLUDING WEDDINGS, ANNIVERSARIES, BIRTHDAYS, BRIDAL AND BABY SHOWERS. KINGS IN EUROS, CELEBRATIONS OF LIFE, AND MORE. IN ADDITION, ORGANIZATIONS THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY TURNED TO THE CENTER LAST YEAR TO HOST THEIR AWARDS BANQUETS, ANNUAL MEETINGS, BUSINESS MEETINGS, COMMUNITY WORKSHOPS, FILM SHOWINGS, MUSICAL PERFORMANCES, THEATRICAL PRODUCTIONS, AND MORE.

NOTE THE FACT THAT OVER THE PAST 2 AND A HALF YEARS, AT TIMES, THE PRICE CENTERS ACTIVITIES AND VENUES ARE THE ONLY THING AVAILABLE TO AREA RESIDENTS AND VISITORS TO THE DOWNTOWN AREA. THE CITY OF SAN MARCUS CLOSED MANY OF ITS FACILITIES AND CURTAILED MOST OF ITS SERVICES, AS DID MOST OTHER BUSINESSES AND NONPROFITS IN TOWN.

OTABLY AGAIN ÃÃWE NEVER STOPPED DELIVERING ON OUR

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MISSION. WE CANNOT AFFORD TO.

ALL OF THIS SOUNDS PRETTY GOOD. SO, WHY DO WE NEED YOUR HELP? WELL, I HOPE YOU HEARD HOW MANY TIMES I SAID FREE OR LOW-COST IN MY OVERVIEW THERE. ONE OF OUR OFFERINGS ARE FREE TO USE, BUT NOT FREE TO OPERATE.

RETURNING BUSINESS VOLUME HAS REQUIRED THE NEED TO EMPLOY MORE STAFF FROM OUR PREVIOUS 1.5 FTES, WHICH INCLUDED MYSELF. WE HAVE ADDED A TOTAL OF FIVE SEPARATE PART-TIME 1099 CONTRACT WORKERS.

TO ASSIST WITH EVERYTHING FROM HOUSEKEEPING AND EVENT SET UP TO STAFFING THE RESALE SHOP. IN ADDITION, WE ARE ALSO PAYING A MONTHLY RETAINER FOR AN OUTSIDE BOOKKEEPING SERVICE TO MANAGE OUR FINANCES. A CORE GROUP OF NINE DEDICATED VOLUNTEERS SERVES ON OUR BOARD OF DIRECTORS.

AND ANOTHER SET OF FOUR DIRECTORS MANAGES OUR ARTS AND CULTURAL EFFORTS. A TEAM OF THREE MORE VOLUNTEERS HANDLES ALL OUR GARDENING WORK. VOLUNTEERS BUILT THE CENTER 20 YEARS AGO AND SUSTAINS IT TODAY.

THE MAJORITY OF OUR VOLUNTEERS IN THE 60S AND 70S AND SOME IN THE 80S, REGRETTABLY ARE MODEL IS NOT SUSTAINABLE.

TO FURTHER COMPLICATE THE ISSUE ÃÃI WILL BE RETIRING AT SOME POINT OVER THE NEXT 3¥ YEARS. OVER THIS TIME, THE GOAL IS TO MAKE THE CENTER AND ITS OPERATIONS TRULY SUSTAINABLE.

TO THE RIGHT BALANCE OF REVENUE PRODUCING ACTIVITIES, COMMUNITY SERVICE, AND HARDWIRE PARTNERSHIPS LIKE THE ONE THAT WE HAVE WITH YOU.

INCE COVID FIRST HIT US, WE HAVE INVESTED MORE THAN $40,000 IN PHYSICAL IMPROVEMENTS AND REPAIRS TO THE VENUES AND GARDEN SPACE. AND AN ADDITIONAL $20,000 IN HVAC EQUIPMENT REPAIRS AND REPLACEMENTS.

WE ARE DEPLETING WHAT SMALL RESERVES WE HAVE AND NEED RELIABLE AND SUSTAINABLE FUNDS TO HELP WITH THESE ONGOING AND INEVITABLE EXPENSES. DID I MENTION ONE OF OUR BUILDINGS IS 129 YEARS OLD? AFTER LOOKING AT YOUR UP TO 22 APPROVED BUDGET ÃÃI FOUND THAT THE GREATER SAN MARCUS AREA SENIORS ASSOCIATION HAS BEEN UNDERFUNDED WHEN COMPARED TO EACH OF THE OTHER SERVICE SENIOR SERVE CENTERS TO WHICH THEY ALSO PROVIDE FUNDING. SPECIFICALLY LAST YEAR AS IN YEARS PAST, WE RECEIVED $4000. WHEN OUR SISTER FACILITIES WERE FUNDED AS FOLLOWS. THE KYLE SENIORS ON $12,000 WITH AN ADDITIONAL IMPACT GRANT OF $200,000.

THE WIMBERLEY SENIOR CENTER $10,000.

PHIL COUNTRY SENIOR CENTER, 22,500.

ONION CREEK SENIOR CENTER, 12,000.

AGAIN, WE GET POORER. AGAIN, I NOTED A $25,000 GRANT TO THE SOUTHSIDE COMMUNITY CENTER.

I'M ASKING FOR A NEW ADJUSTED AND MORE EQUITABLE AND ANNUAL GRANT LEVEL TO THE PRICE CENTER.

COMMENCING IT WITH WHAT WE DO AT THE CENTER.

AND SINCE YOU'RE GIVEN 22 FIVE TO THE WHOLE COUNTRY SENIOR CENTER AND 25 TO SOUTHSIDE ÃÃ I'M ASKING FOR THAT SAME LEVEL OF FUNDING. ACCORDINGLY TEST IS OUR NEW ANNUAL ASK IS $25,000. IN ADDITION ÃÃAS A SEPARATE REQUEST, WE HAVE A TOTAL OF NINE HVAC UNITS THAT SERVICE THE CENTER. OVER THE PAST THREE YEARS Ã THIS WE REPLACED FIVE OF THE UNITS.

THE REMAINING FOUR ARE WELL PAST THE PRIME WILL ALSO NEED REPLACING SOON. WITH AN APPROXIMATE COST OF $10,000 PER UNIT. AS A RESULT JUST AS WE ARE ASKING ALSO IMPORTANT IMPACT GRANT OF $40,000.

TO PURCHASE THE REMAINING REPLACEMENT UNITS.

ANNUAL GRANT FUNDING FROM YOU AND THE CITY AND OTHERS WILL HELP TO ENSURE THE PRICE CENTER CONTINUES TO MEET ITS MISSION AND SERVE THE RESIDENTS OF AND VISITORS TO HAYS COUNTY.

FOR MANY YEARS TO COME. I SINCERELY APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT OUR STORY AND REQUEST TO YOU IN PERSON TODAY. IF THERE IS ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS OR CONCERNS, I WOULD BE HAPPY TO TRY AND ADDRESS THEM. THANK YOU.

>> THINK A CERTAIN LET'S ASK OUR COMMISSIONERS ONE BY ONE.

COMMISSIONER SMITH?> I APPRECIATE THE PRESENTATION TODAY. I THINK YOU DID A GOOD JOB IN OUTLINING THE NEED AND CONCERN THAT I HAVE IS I DON'T KNOW IF

THERE'S A NICE WAY TO PUT THIS. >> WHAT'S IN IT FOR YOU?

>> NO.> I COULD CARE LESS WHAT'S IN IT FOR ME.

REX'S CLOTHES PRESENT, BUT I SEE THE NEED. SINCERELY SEE THE NEED. I THINK THE CONCERN THAT I HAVE IS TIMING WHEN IT COMES UP IN SO-AND-SO'S GETTING AS MUCH BUT WE DESERVE THIS. THAT IS A PROBLEM FOR ME.

EVERY ONE OF OUR TEST IS EVERY ONE OF THE ITEMS THAT WE LOOK AT AND HEAR ÃÃAT LEAST FOR MYSELF JUST AS I TRY TO MAKE DECISIONS BASED SPECIFICALLY OFF OF THE NEEDS OF THAT INDIVIDUAL UNIT OR INDIVIDUAL ORGANIZATION.

THE PURPOSE IN WHAT THEY'RE DOING IN THE COMMUNITY.

I THINK IT'S AT OUR FOLLY IF WE INDIVIDUALLY COMPARE EACH ONE OF THESE THINGS. AND I HAD A SIMILAR CONVERSATION A MOMENT AGO THAT EACH ONE OF THESE SOCIAL SERVICE AGENCY FUNDING ENTITIES THAT WE HAVE ÃÃTHEY ALL DO

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GOOD WORK. >> SURE, OF COURSE.

>> AND I THINK Y'ALL ARE VERY UNIQUE IN WHAT YOU DO.

SO, I WOULD JUST CAUTION DOING THAT IN THE FUTURE.

[LAUGHTER] >> I APPRECIATE THAT.

THANK YOU. >> COMMISSIONER SCHULTZ?

>> THINK A JUDGE. YES, I REALLY APPRECIATE WHAT Y'ALL DID. IT'S AN AMAZING FACILITY I'VE BEEN TO SOME EVENTS THERE. IT REALLY IS.

IT'S A GEM IN SAINT MARCUS IF YOU HAVE BEEN THERE PRETTY TO BE FULL PLACE AND IT'S VERY WELCOMING.

I DID NOT ÃÃADDRESSING COMMISSIONER SMITH'S COMMENTS OVER THE PAST. SOME OF THOSE LEVELS HAVE BEEN IDENTIFIED BASED ON DIFFERENT SERVICES THAT HAVE BEEN OFFERED IN SOME OF THESE SENIOR CENTERS.

I WOULD SAY THAT IT DOES SEEM A LITTLE BIT OUT OF WHACK THAT LEVEL IT'S ONLY BEEN 4000 COMPARED TO SOME OF THE OTHERS.

ALTHOUGH I DID KNOW SOME OF THE OTHER CENTERS ARE JUST AS SOME OF THOSE FUNDS ARE GOING TO OTHER SERVICES.

MAYBE MEALS AT THE SPECIFIC MEALS IS DEFINITELY CERTAINLY

YES. >> THAT IS THE DIFFERENCE OF SOME.HAT'S SOME OF THE DISCREPANCY.

I WOULD AGREE WITH YOU. >> IF I MAY COUNTER THAT TO SAY THAT YOU NOT, ABSOLUTELY FOOD CLOTHING AND SHELTER JUST AS ALL THOSE THINGS ARE IMPORTANT. HEALTHY LIFE INCLUDES CELEBRATING THE ARTS, THE HUMANITIES, THE OPPORTUNITY TO SOCIALIZE, GATHER TOGETHER. MANY OF THE PEOPLE THAT COME TO THE PRICE CENTER COME MULTIPLE TIMES A WEEK.

WE ARE AT THEIR SECOND HOME. WE ARE THE PLACE THAT THEY COME TO SOCIALIZE WITH LIKE-MINDED PEOPLE.T'S A TOUCHSTONE FOR THEM. IT'S A LIFE FORCE FOR THEM.

AND IT'S JUST AS IMPORTANT AS MEETING THE OTHER NEEDS.

AND PARTICULARLY SAINT ESTES I SUDDENLY REALIZED THAT DURING THE COVID EXPERIENCE. PEOPLE NEED TO CONNECT.

AND THEY WILL FIND A WAY TO DO SO.

THE PRICE CENTER CERTAINLY PROVIDES THAT OPPORTUNITY ON A

DAILY BASIS. >> THANK YOU.

COMMISSIONER? >> THANK YOU.

>> JUDGE, I JUST WANT TO THANK CLAY FOR COMING AND PRESENTING I HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO GO AND VISIT THE SITE.

IT HAD BEEN A WHILE. SINCE I HAD BEEN THERE.

AND I WAS PRETTY AMAZED AT THE ALL THE PROGRAMS THAT ARE NOW BEING PROVIDED THAT I WAS NOT AWARE OF.

SINCE THE LAST TIME I WAS THERE.

AND I AGREE. I MEAN, YOU KNOW, AS WE HAVE A JEEP PARENT AND OTHER SIBLINGS AND IT'S ÃTHIS IS IMPORTANT THAT THEY CONNECT. AND IT DOES HELP THEM TO CONTINUE LIFE YOU KNOW? AND ENJOY IT AND HAVE THAT INTERACTION WITH OTHERS. BUT THE PROGRAMS THAT Y'ALL ARE PROVIDING ARE ÃTHIS REALLY APPRECIATE AND ALL THE HARD WORK THAT YOU'VE DONE TO BRING IT UP TO WHERE IT IS NOW.

SO, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ALL OF YOUR HARD WORK.

AND I KNOW THAT THERE ARE OTHERS THAT HAVE BEEN INVOLVED ALSO. SO, WE WANTED THAT.

THAT'S THE COLLECTIVE EFFORT AND SELF æ

>> THANKS. >> WELL DONE MR. DESTEFANO.> THANK YOU SIR.

CUSTOMÁ YOU COVERED IT WELL. >> VERY GOOD.

APPRECIATE THE TIME. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR

CONSIDERATION. >> THINK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

WE REALLY APPRECIATE IT. >> MISS SHERRY MILLER?

>> GOOD MORNING JUDGE.

OMMISSIONER, SHERRY MILLER, HAYS COUNTY HR DIRECTOR.O, YOU ASKED LAST WEEK IN REGARDS TO THE COUNTYWIDE SALARY STUDY ÃÃFOUR TIMELINE CRITERIA TO GET AN ANALYSIS OF THE ELECTED OFFICIAL POSITIONS.O THAT THEY ARE RECOMMENDED SELLERS COULD BE PUBLISHED. TO MEET THE BUDGET TIMELINES.

SO, THE DATA THAT I'VE GIVEN YOU COMES FROM THE SALARY STUDY ATTACK ACTUALLY PREPARES ANNUALLY.

IN PUBLISHES. SO, SELF REPORTED BY EACH COUNTY. WE PARTICIPATE IN THIS STUDY ALSO. AND PROVIDE OUR CURRENT SELLERS. SO, I'VE SUMMARIZED FOR EACH OF THE COUNTIES THAT YOU SELECTED FOR THE MARKET STUDY THAT MAG HAS CONDUCTED. THE SAME USING THE SAME COUNTIES. I'M CELEBRATING BASE SALARY FROM SALARIES SUPPLEMENTS. AND OR TRAVEL ALLOWANCES.

A GENERAL SUMMARY IS THAT OUR ELECTED OFFICIAL SELLERS ARE LAGGING THE BASE SALARY ONLY. WHERE THE SUPPLEMENTS ARE INDEED MONEY. BUT YOU HAVE SEEN ÃJUST

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BECAUSE THEY ARE SO FLEXIBLE AND NOT CONSISTENT ÃTHIS ABUSING JUST BASE SALARY DISTANCE OUR SALARIES YOUR SALARY AND ALL THE OTHER ELECTED OFFICIALS DIFFER FOR OUR LAGGING BETWEEN SIX PERCENT AND 48 PERCENT.

SO, USING THE COMPENSATION PHILOSOPHY TEST IS NOT A LAGGARD AND NOT A LEADER ÃÃWE ARE ÃÃWE ARE MORE THAN LAGGING. IN CONSULTATION WITH DOCTOR LONG FROM MAG ÃÃI SHARED THIS DATA WITH HIM.

AND HIS RESPONSE IS THAT GIVEN THE COMPENSATION OF PHILOSOPHY ÃÃAGAIN, WE ARE INDEED LAGGING.

THE COMPARABLE MARKET. IN THE BASE SALARY AMOUNTS.

ASKING HIM WHAT HIS FIRST WIFE RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE.

FIRST OF ALL, HE IS HESITANT GENERAL TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION FOR THE TOP LEVEL POSITIONS IN AN ORGANIZATION. BEFORE THE MIND STAFF.

ANALYSIS IS CONDUCTED. BUT, WE REALIZE THAT YOU NEED TO DO SOMETHING IN TERMS OF RECOMMENDED SALARIES TO MEET THE BUDGET PUBLICATION DEADLINES.

BENCHMARKING YOUR POSITIONS SALARIES AGAINST BASE SUMMARY AVERAGE. AS WITH DOCTOR LONG WOULD AT LEAST RECOMMEND. I DON'T KNOW BUDGET WISE.

I HAVE NOT CALCULATED THE ACTUAL FISCAL IMPACT.

SO AND ANOTHER THING TO POINT OUT IS THAT THE CONSTABLES SALARIES ARE LAGGING BY ABOUT SIX PERCENT.

REMEMBERING THE CONSTABLE SALARIES HAVE BEEN ADJUSTED.

>> THROUGH THE GRIEVANCE PROCESS PURPORTS TO THE

GRIEVANCE PROCESS. >> THE GRIEVANCE PROCESS.

I CAN TELL YOU THAT I WAS A CHAIR AT THE GRIEVANCE PROCESS WITH THE SHERIFF AND THE CONSTABLES ESTES I THINK IT WAS THE THOSE GREETINGS THEIR PAIN. AND I DID FEEL ÃÃI HONESTLY DID. I FELT BAD HAVING TO PRESIDE OVER THAT. BECAUSE BECAUSE OF THEIR PAY AND I KNOW THAT ONE OF THE ARGUMENTS THAT SOME FOLKS HAVE USED IS WELL, YOU KNOW WHAT THE PAY WAS BEFORE YOU RAN.UT THERE IS A LEVEL OF STRONG LEVEL OF EQUITY THOUGHT PROCESS IN THE WORK THAT DOCTOR LONG AND YOU ARE DOING.

AND AT THE END OF THE DAY Ã THIS WITH THE CONSTABLES AND THE SHERIFF WERE AGAINST ARGUING AND THE COMMUNITY SUPPORTED. WAS A LEVEL PLAYING FIELD AND SO, THAT IS WHY AM GLAD I'M HERE TODAY AND I THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU DOING TODAY AND IT'S TOUGH AND TRICKY NOBODY WANTS TO VOTE FOR THE RACE. I GET THAT.

AT THE SAME TIME ÃSINCE WE'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO BE FIXTURES AND SUPPOSED TO KEEP UP WITH THE TIMES AND WHEN YOU PASS IT ONTO THE NEXT PERSON ÃÃTHEY SHOULD BE YOU KNOW, COMPARABLE.

I UNDERSTAND AND I GET IT AND IT'S TOUGH.

>> ANOTHER POINT IN INPUTTING THIS DATA TOGETHER I DID FIND SOME AREAS OF INTEREST IN SOME OF THE ELECTED OFFICIALS SALARIES.O, OBVIOUSLY TRAVIS WILLIAMSON ÃÃYOU CAN SEE THE RANKING ON THE FAR RIGHT-HAND COLUMN.

TRAVIS WILLIAMSON: AND BAYER. GENERALLY RANK IN THE TOP FIVE THERE WERE SOME MAYBE A NON- [INDISCERNIBLE] ANOMALIES? IN THE CONSTABLE BACKDROP COUNTY IS ÃÃPRETTY LOW ON THE CONSTABLE SALARY.

45,000.

WHICH IS CONCERNING. ONE THING THAT YOU COULD DO AND I HAVE NOT CRUNCHED THE NUMBERS THIS WAY.

IS THAT YOU COULD GO OUT THE TOP AND THE HIGH.

AND THE TOP ENVELOPE IT HIGH AND THE LOW.

AND SEE WHAT YOU GET. HE WOULD GET A LITTLE LESS

DIFFERENCE PROBABLY. >> WHAT WAS THE MARKET THAT WAS IDENTIFIED IN THE ORIGINAL CITIZEN COMMITTEE?

>> DIVINE COUNTIES.> EIGHT OR NINE OR 10 OR WHATEVER IT

WAS. >> LET ME SEE IF I CAN FIND IT.

GIVE ME JUST A SECOND. >> ANOTHER WAS A MARKET

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IDENTIFIED. I THINK IT WAS 2008 OR NINE OR 10. THE BEFORE MY TIME FOR THE MARKET WAS IDENTIFIED. COUNTY PAID FOR CONSULTANT ALONG WITH THE CITIZENS COMMITTEE.HEY MADE RECOMMENDATIONS. I DON'T THINK THEY WERE ALL APPLIED. I THINK MAYBE THERE WAS A PERCENTAGE THAT WAS APPLIED AND THEN IN 20 ÃÃI'M GONNA GUESS 15 MAYBE 14 OR 15. THE COUNTY APPLIED THE STUDY BASED UPON SALARIES OF THE PREVIOUS YEAR TO THE TIME THAT

WE DID. >> SO, THAT 2008 MARKET.

ORIGINALLY INCLUDED FAST ELECTED OFFICIALS.

BACKDROP FOR MS. SORIA, CANAL, ELLIS ÃDISPORT BIN, GUADALUPE BAY, MACLENNAN, MONTGOMERY, AND WILLIAMSON COUNTIES.

BUT WHAT WAS ADOPTED IN 2008 Ã ÃWE TOOK THE AVERAGE OF KAMAL, ELLIS, GUADALUPE , AND PARKER COUNTY.

THAT IS WHAT WAS IMPLEMENTED IN 2008.

SUBSEQUENT TO THAT, IN THE 2015 OR 2016, THE MARKET COUNTIES THAT WE WERE USING FOR POSITIONS AT THE TIME FOR BEING

UTILIZED. >> SO, WE USED THESE COUNTIES? IN 2015? I KNOW WE TOOK THE RIGHT.

GREAT ASSOCIATES? >> THAT WAS 2008.

WE TOOK THEIR METHODOLOGY AND WHAT THE COUNTY WAS USING AT

THE TIME. >> I'M GUESSING IT WAS 2015 OR 16. YOU REMEMBER?

>> 2016. >> 2016? OKAY. WE TOOK THE RIGHT ÃÃI DIDN'T.

SHOULD HAVE REMEMBERED.

[LAUGHTER]

[LAUGHTER] >> THE RATE OF THE CITIZENS COMMITTEE ADOPTED WITH THE NEW MARKET THAT THE KATHY HAD BEEN USING. WHICH WERE THESE COUNTIES.

IN 2016. I KNOW I TOOK EVERY SALARY AT THE TIME FROM A MARKET AND I'M ASSUMING IT WAS THIS ONE.

FROM THE BOOK THAT PTAK PUBLISHED A YEAR BEFORE.

SO, USED 2015 NUMBERS TECHNICALLY.

I THINK I USED 2014 NUMBERS. TO PRODUCE THIS SALARIES THAT THE COURT ENDED UP APPROVING IN THE BUDGET.

>> PERCENTAGE. >> THAT HAVE BEEN AROUND EXCEPT FOR CONSTABLES, SHERIFF, AND INCREASES TO OTHER ELECTED OFFICIALS BY THREE PERCENT OR FOUR PERCENT TO FIVE PERCENT.

>> I JUST KNOW THAT RECORDED AT THE TIME IN 2015 OR 2016.

WE WERE SEEING 2016 IN FISCAL YEAR 2016.

SO, IN 2015. THE COURT SAID APPLY THE NEW MARKET TO THAT RATE METHODOLOGY.

I THINK WHAT IT ENDED UP DOING WAS THE AVERAGE OF TOTAL COMPENSATION. WHICH I BELIEVE THE DISTRICT AND COUNTY CLERK TOGETHER. IF THAT WASN'T NECESSARILY RECOMMENDED, BUT THE WAY THAT WE HAD TRADITIONALLY DONE THAT.

OTHERWISE, IS PLUGGED IN THE AVERAGES.

IT WAS TOTAL COMPENSATION AVERAGE OF THE MARKET.

I BUT I STILL HAVE IT. >> THE OTHER THING YOU'RE SEEING HERE IS THE TAX SUCCESSOR.

AVERAGES HIGHER THAN THE COUNTY COMMISSIONERS.

>> THE RECOMMENDATION THAT DID NOT HAPPEN.

>> IN THE RE STUDY? >> IN THE RE STUDY.

THERE WAS ONLY TWO CHANGES. ONE WAS THE COUNTY CLERK

DISTRICT AND THAT. >> CORRECT.

>> AND SO. OTHERWISE, THAT METHODOLOGY WAS PLUGGED IN USING THE-YEAR-OLD SALARY DATA FROM TAX.

TOTAL COMPENSATION. THINK THERE WAS A TIME THERE WAS A COUPLE OF TWEAKS THAT TO BE MADE BECAUSE OF CONSTABLES THAT WORKED PART-TIME SOMEWHERE. THAT SKEWED THE CALCULATION.

>> MCCLINTON COUNTY. UTILIZES PART-TIME CONSTABLES.

OR THEY DID AT THE TIME. >> THEY WERE KICKED OUT BECAUSE THEY SKEWED THE NUMBERS.HEY WERE OTHERWISE ÃÃTHE RE STUDY IS WHAT THEY USED AND THAT'S WHAT THE COURT ADOPTED.

AND ÃÃAS FAR AS, YOU KNOW? I NEVER COMPARE US TO

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MONTGOMERY COUNTY FROM ELECTED OFFICIALS BECAUSE FOR INSTANCE, A COMMISSION AT MONTGOMERY COUNTY MAKES HUNDRED AND $36,000 A YEAR. SO, I ALSO PROBABLY WOULD NOT COMPARES TO SMITH COUNTY OR COUNTY COMMISSIONER.

MAKES LESS THAN WHAT I MAKE AND 2000.

WHEN I GRADUATED IN COURT IN 1990 AND I GRADUATED COLLEGE.

SO, PROBABLY ÃÃ48 MARKET THAT HAS TRIPLED INDIFFERENCE FROM ITS MINIMUM TO ITS MAXIMUM MIGHT NOT BE THE BEST WAY TO ANALYZE THINGS TO BEGIN WITH. MAYBE KICKING OUT THE HIGH AND THE LOW IS A GOOD WAY TO GET RID OF THOSE.

IT CAN BE SO DIFFERENT. >> IF YOU GIVE ME A SECOND OR A MINUTE OR TWO, I CAN DO THAT QUICKLY AND WE CAN SEE.

ARE THERE OTHER THINGS TO TALK ABOUT WHILE I DO THAT? CUSTOMÁ COMMISSIONERS, ANY SUGGESTIONS? THE COMMISSIONER HAS OFFERED SOME IDEAS.

[INDISCERNIBLE] >> IT WOULD BE GOOD TO SEE THAT INFORMATION. WE WILL MOVE THE HIGH AND THE

LOW AND SEE WHERE IT FALLS. >> I MEAN, IF YOU WERE TO TAKE EACH ONE OF THESE POSITIONS. AND THIS IS JUST BACK OF THE NAPKIN FIGURING. IT'S ABOUT 1/4 OF $1 MILLION FOR ALL ELECTED OFFICIALS. IF YOU WERE TO DO OR GO FROM WHERE WE ARE AT NOW TO THE AVERAGE OF THESE POSITIONS.

THE CONCERN THAT I HAVE, EVEN THOUGH FOR EXAMPLE, THE COMMISSIONERS ARE 35 PERCENT UNDER MARKET ACCORDING TO THIS.

AT THE END OF THE DAY, I DO NOT FEEL WOULD NOT FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH GIVING ANYBODY OR ANY OF OUR ÃÃANY OF OUR EMPLOYEES, MUCH LESS OURSELVES. ANY TYPE OF RAISE SIMILAR TO THAT. WE HAVE TO BE REALISTIC AND WHAT WE ARE LOOKING AT. FORGIVE ME ÃÃBECAUSE OF THE JUDGE ÃÃTHIS IS OUR FIRST TIME GOING THROUGH THIS.

THE JUDGE WAS REFERRING TO ME EARLIER BECAUSE THEY KNEW WHAT I WAS MAKING HER WAS GONNA MAKE WHEN I RAN FOR THIS JOB.

I MADE A COMMITMENT TO THE PUBLIC THAT I WOULD WORK FOR THIS AMOUNT. ONE OF THE CONCERNS THAT I HAVE ÃÃAND YOU MAY REMEMBER FROM OPEN COURT ÃÃWHENEVER WE HAD THE CONVERSATION WITH THE CONSTABLES ÃÃI WOULD VENTURE TO GUESS THAT I AM PROBABLY ONE OF ÃÃIF NOT, THE MOST SUPPORTIVE MEMBER OF OUR COURT, WHEN IT COMES TO ASKING FOR THANKS FOR THE CONSTABLES. I HAVE PROBABLY CARRIED MORE STUFF FOR THE PAST THREE YEARS THAN ANYBODY.

BUT, I REFUSE TO HELP THEM WITH THAT.

AND CARRY THE ITEM. AND IN THE CONVERSATION, THE REASON THAT I DID IS BECAUSE LOOK, OFTEN IN THE PAST SIX MONTHS. THE PAY SCALE WAS.

AT THE CONVERSATION REVOLVED AROUND THE FACT THAT WE ARE VERY BLESSED IN OUR COUNTY WITH OUR CONSTABLES BECAUSE OF THEIR EXPERIENCE. I THINK COMBINED, THEY HAVE OVER 105 CONSTABLES THAT WE HAVE, SOMEWHERE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF 150 YEARS EXPERIENCE IN THE JOB.

AND THERE IS A CONCERN THAT IF WE HAD EMPLOYEES MAKING MORE THAN THEM. HYPERBOLIC THAT IS THAT IF YOU LOSE TOMORROW TO SOMEONE WHO DOES NOT HAVE ANY EXPERIENCE Ã ÃTHEY ARE GOING TO BE MAKING EVERY EMPLOYEE THAT YOU HAVE.

WITH NO EXPERIENCE. AS A LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER, THAT IS THE RISK THAT WE RUN AS ELECTED OFFICIALS.

WE COULD USE LOSE OUR JOB, PREPAYING FOR EXPENSE IN THIS JOB IS NOT SOMETHING WE COULD DO.

THAT'S WHY I SUPPORT THE LONGEVITY PAY.

I DON'T NECESSARILY SUPPORT CHANGES OVERALL.

CHANGES IN OFFICIALS PAY IN BETWEEN CYCLES.

>> TO ADD TO WHAT YOU SAID COMMISSIONER, I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO SAY THAT IS WHY I SAID WHAT I SAID ABOUT WHEN I SAT THROUGH PRESIDING OVER THE SHERIFF AND CONSTABLES.

THE GRIEVANCE IT WAS CLEAR TO ME THAT THE GENERAL PHILOSOPHY IS ÃÃAS YOU STATED, HOWEVER, IF WE HOLD BACK ON TOO LONG ÃÃ IT CAN BE A VERY STRESSFUL SETTING BECAUSE ELECTED OFFICIALS ÃÃNEXT DOOR TO ONE OF THE LEAST REMOTELY CONQUER WHEN WE ÃTHIS UNKNOWN BE HARSH ABOUT AND USE THE WORD NEGLECT.

THAT'S THE WORD THAT USUALLY COMES TO MIND.

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WHEN WE NEGLECT THE EVOLUTION OF PAY WITH THE SURROUNDING EFFORTS ÃÃI FELT THE PERSONAL BLOWBACK OF IT.

I AM WITH YOU ON THIS WHOLE HEY MAN, THIS IS WHAT YOU SIGNED UP FOR. AT THE SAME TIME, I GET QUOTES ARE SENT WELL, MY COUNTERPART HEART MAKING X AND I AM MAKING WHY. IT'S JUST THE NATURE OF HUMANITY TO COMPARE WHAT YOU DO WITH YOUR NEIGHBORS AND THE

JONESES IDEA. >> ,BACK IN SIMILAR CONVERSATION THAT WE JUST HAD ON SOCIAL SERVICES OMPARISON IS THE FATHER OF DISCONTENT.

AT THE END OF THE DAY, YOU KNOW? I HAVE THREE CHILDREN. I LOVE ALL OF THEM.

EQUALLY. THE FACT IS THAT I LOVE THEM FOR DIFFERENT REASONS. THEY'RE ALL DIFFERENT IN THEIR OWN UNIQUE AND THEY'LL SOMETHING TO THE TABLE.

JUST A VERY STRONG FEELING ABOUT THAT.

RIGHT ON POINT. >> IN THE HAS TO BE SOME BASIS UP WITH SOMETHING AND SOME REASONABLE AMOUNT OF TIME.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS. OBVIOUSLY, IT WAS 2008, WHICH WAS I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT WAS APPLIED.

I WAS NOT HERE. LET'S SAY 2010.

THE 2016. IT WAS ABOUT SIX YEARS BETWEEN SETTING SALARIES AND READJUSTING SALARIES.

INCE 2016, MOST ELECTED OFFICIALS RECEIVED THE FOUR PERCENT INCREASE. LET ME LOOK AT THIS.

>> WE AVERAGE THAT EVERY YEAR. EXCEPT ONE YEAR WE DID NOT GIVE

ANY INCREASE. >> IN 2015, THERE WAS A FOUR PERCENT. REMEMBER THIS NOW. IT WAS FOUR PERCENT AND WAIT UNTIL THE NEXT YEAR. WE APPLIED THE STUDY.

SO, 2016, THE STUDY WAS APPLIED.

YOU WILL SEE THOSE INCREASES THAT RESULTED FROM TOP TO BOTTOM. AND THEN FROM THAT POINT ON, IN 2017, 18, 19, THERE WERE NO INCREASES, EXCEPT FOR

GRIEVANCES. >> YES.

>> SO. >>

[INDISCERNIBLE] >> SHERIFF?

>> THAT'S JUST CONSTABLES. >> OKAY.

>> SO, THE FIRST ONE THAT HAPPENED IN 2015 WAS A CONSTABLE. BUT, THERE WAS ALSO ANOTHER CONSTABLE HERE. IT WAS ATTACKS ASSESSOR AND CONSTABLE. THEY AGREED.

SUCCESSFULLY. PRIOR TO 2015.

THERE WAS A CONSTABLE. >> RIGHT.

>> STARTING 2015. AS TAX ASSESSOR AND CONGRESS AGREED TO SPLIT THE TIME THE COURT THEN DECIDED TO DO FOUR PERCENT TO WAIT TO THE NEXT YEAR TO DO THE STUDY.

WAS ABOUT 16. YOU CAN SEE THE INCREASES FOR COMPENSATION AGAIN. THOSE INCREASES ARE BASED UPON BASED UPON NOT TOTAL COMPENSATION.HE TOTAL COMPENSATION. THOSE INCREASES OUR CALCULATION OF THE TOTAL COMPENSATION. HAT WAS DONE IN 2016.

SO, FROM 2016 TO 2017, NOTHING CHANGED.

NOTHING CHANGED TO 2018. NOTHING CHANGED IN 2019 AND THEN AGAIN, WE HAVE THREE GRIEVANCES.

THEY WERE SUCCESSFUL. AND THEN IN 2020, WE HAD

ANOTHER SUCCESSFUL GRIEVANCE. >> I DON'T THINK THOSE ARE GRIEVANCES. WE JUST BROUGHT THEM UP TO THE

REST OF THE CONSTABLES. >> IN 2020.

>> IN 2022. >> IN 2019 OR THREE CONSTABLES AGREED IN 2020 BROUGHT THE OTHER TWO.

>> TO MATCH. >> AND VIDEOS ÃÃ

[INDISCERNIBLE] >> OKAY.

OKAY. >> SO, IN [INDISCERNIBLE] IN 2021 æ

>> [INDISCERNIBLE]

2016. >> 16.

>> YES. >> IN 2021 ÃÃWE HAD FOUR CONSTABLES AND FIVE CONSTABLES AND A SHERIFF REFERRING,

CORRECT? >> THAT IS THE EXPENSE.

>> AMUSING THE BUDGET PROCESS DURING 2020.

>> 2021 AND 2022. >> VISITED INCREASE FOR THE JP'S AT A CERTAIN POINT. WHEN DID WE DO THE JP INCREASE?

HAT WAS TWO YEARS AGO? >> THE JP'S WERE 20.

MOVING THE BASE SALARY AND REDUCING THEIR MENSTRUATION.

THE ALLOWANCES IN THE SCHEDULE BELOW.

THE BALANCES DID GO FROM 6000 UP TO 14.

>> AND 16. >> YOU BASICALLY MOVE THAT

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REGISTRATION. >> THERE WAS A PHYSICAL IMPACT.

WE JUST TRANSFERRED IT OVER. >> TOTAL COMPENSATION.

THOSE STAYED THE SAME. RECEIVED AT THE FIVE PERCENT THAT OTHERS RECEIVED ELECTED OFFICIALS EXCEPT FOR THE BOARD.

AND THEN WE HAD TO BRING THOSE CONSTABLES UP TO MATCH THE PREVIOUS YEAR'S SUCCESSFUL GRIEVANCE FOR THE OTHER

CONSTABLES. >> THE TOTAL COMPENSATION ON

THE SECOND PAGE. >> THE FIRST PAGE FOR THE BASE SALARY SHOWS THE ANNUAL BASIS YEAR AFTER YEAR.

>> AND THE GRIEVANCE POSSIBLE. >> AT SOME POINT ÃÃI'M GOING BY THEN. AT SOME POINT, THE COURT WILL HAVE TO IMPLEMENT SOMETHING OVER SOME PERIODIC ÃÃSOME PERIOD OF TIME. OR THESE POSITIONS OR WILL CONTINUE TO HAVE GRIEVANCES AND FOR WHATEVER REASON, PEOPLE SELECTED TO SERVE ON THE GRIEVANCE COMMITTEES AND

DISAPPOINTED GRIEVANCES PRINT. >> EXACTLY.

>> AND NEVER QUITE UNDERSTOOD THAT BECAUSE PEOPLE WHO CALL ME THINK I'M YOU KNOW? PAY THREE TIMES MORE THAN I SHOULD BE. THIS PEOPLE AND UPCOMING ÃÃ MORE OF THOSE GRIEF. I'M NOT A BIG FAN OF IT.

I THINK IT WAS PROBABLY SET BECAUSE IT WAS SOMETHING REALLY CRAZY SOMETIME WERE SOMEBODY GOT MAD AT ANOTHER OFFICIAL AND SET THE PAY AT A DOLLAR JUST TO GET BACK AT THEM.

WHICH IS WHY THE LAW EXISTS. WHATEVER THE CASE IS AND IT HAPPENS. THEY ARE SUCCESSFUL, WHICH THEN PUTS CERTAIN ELECTED OFFICIALS BEING PAID MORE AT THE SAME JOB. AT LEAST STATUTE STATUTORILY AT THE SAME JOB. AT LEAST OFFICIALLY.

THE COURT HAS TO IMPLEMENT SOME INCREASES OVER SOME PERIOD OF TIME. AND HISTORICALLY, IT HAPPENED IN 2008 AND 10 RANGE. SOMETHING SIGNIFICANT.

THEN IN 20 16 OR SOMETHING PRETTY SIGNIFICANT.

AND THEN A FEW PERCENTAGE INCREASES FOR NON- COURT ELECTED OFFICIALS EVERY OTHER YEAR IT LOOKS LIKE.

>> WHEN WE ANTICIPATE THE FULL MAX STUDY? CUSTOMÁ SO, THE MAX STUDY IS GOING OUT TODAY.

SESSIONS WITH ELECTED OFFICIALS AND DEPARTMENT HEADS.

ZOOM SESSIONS THAT INTRODUCE THE POSITION QUESTIONNAIRE.

THE EMPLOYEES AND DEPARTMENT HEADS WILL COMPLETE.

THE EMPLOYEES WILL ATTEND HOPEFULLY ONE OF 12 SESSIONS TOMORROW AND THURSDAY. SO, ONCE YOU HAVE ATTENDED A SESSION, EMPLOYEES CAN GO INTO THE WEBSITE AND START THEIR QUESTIONNAIRE. THE QUESTIONNAIRES ARE SUBMITTED. WE ARE GIVING EMPLOYEES ASKING THEM TO COMPLETE THEM WITHIN TWO WEEKS.

THEN THIS QUESTIONNAIRES ARE TRANSMITTED TO THE SUPERVISORS.

SUPERVISORS ARE GIVEN A WEEK TO REVIEW AND THEN A FINAL TRANSMISSION. THEY UNDERSTAND OUR BUDGET TIMELINE. ALONGSIDE THIS POSITION QUESTIONNAIRES AND EMPLOYEES ARE COMPLETING.

THEY ARE SERVING THESE MARKET SOURCES TO GET THEIR SALARY DATA OF THE POSITIONS THAT HAVE BEEN IDENTIFIED AS BENCHMARK POSITIONS. THOSE POSITIONS THAT ARE COMMON AMONG THE CITIES AND COUNTIES Ã ÃTHAT YOU AGREED TO.

LAST WEEK. SO, THEY UNDERSTAND OUR BUDGET AND THE ADOPTION DEADLINE. I DO NOT ANTICIPATE A TOTAL RECOMMENDATION FROM THEM. WHEN WE GET TO OUR FINAL ADOPTION DATE. IT MAY BE 2Ö WEEKS LATER.

AND THEY HAVE TO HAVE TIME TO GET THE INFORMATION AND ANALYZE IT. SO, ONCE THE POSITION QUESTIONNAIRES ARE COMPLETED BY THE EMPLOYEES.

THAT'S A KEY COMPONENT. I HIGHLY ENCOURAGE ALL THE EMPLOYEES THAT CAN. WITH THE QUESTIONNAIRE.

WE PROVIDED THEM ALREADY ORGANIZATIONAL CHARTS AND JOB DESCRIPTIONS. SO, WE'RE NOT THE ONLY COUNTY THAT THEY'VE EVER SURVEYED. AND PROVIDED A STUDY FOR.

THERE IS STILL QUITE A BIT OF ANALYTICAL WORK ONCE THE DATA

COMES IN. >> I APPRECIATE THE EXPLANATION. MY QUESTION IS WHEN.

>> WHEN? [LAUGHTER] SO, WE DO NOT HAVE A DEFINITE DATE THAT THEY WILL PROVIDE THEIR ANALYSIS.

DOCTOR LONG DOES INDICATE THAT HE CAN POSSIBLY, DEPENDING ON

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IF HE HAS AN UPDATED GIVE US A PRELIMINARY COST RECOMMENDATION. BEFORE OUR BUDGET ADOPTS.

AND JUDGE, OF COURSE, NEXT WEEK IS WHEN ÃÃTHIS IS ÃÃAND THANK YOU FOR THE INFORMATION. THIS ONE, THE ELECTED OFFICIALS SALARIES IS THE MORE PRESSING BECAUSE WE HAVE TO SET THIS NEXT WEEK. AND SO, AND I APPRECIATE ALL THE INFORMATION THAT COMMISSIONER SHAW HAS SHARED.

I GUESS IT WAS BACK IN 2016 WHEN WE SAID THAT WE WERE GOING TO BEGIN TO IMPLEMENT SOME KIND OF, YOU KNOW, REGULARLY INCREASED OR OFFICIALS. AND OF COURSE IT NEVER HAPPENED. OTHER THAN THE VERY FEW TIMES THAT YOU SEE ON THE CHART THAT ANYTHING IS GIVEN TO AN ELECTED OFFICIAL. AND I KNOW IT'S DIFFICULT.

BECAUSE WHILE WE ARE DOING OTHER ELECTED OFFICIALS ÃTHIS WE ARE ALSO CONSIDERING THE COURT MEMBERS SALARIES ALSO.

S YOU CAN SEE, AS WAS MENTIONED, IT HAS BEEN SIX YEARS SINCE COMMISSIONER COURT MEMBERS OF HAD ANY KIND OF INCREASE. AND SO, THIS IS WHEN IT'S KIND OF ON OUR LAB RIGHT NOW THAT IS PRESENT THAT WE HAVE TO SET NEXT WEEK. AND SO.

>> NEXT WEEK WE SHOULD COME PREPARED WITH A RECOMMENDATION FOR ADOPTION BASED ON THE INFORMATION THAT YOU JUST PROVIDED. HERE.

THIS IS WHAT WE MUST DIGEST FOR WE CAN COME BACK WITH A

DIRECTION. >> SHERIFF, DC IS GETTING ANY MORE INFORMATION BEFORE NEXT WEEK?

>> ON THE EMPLOYEES? ON THIS? I CAN CRUNCH THESE NUMBERS 15 DIFFERENT WAYS.

AKING OUT THE HIGH AND THE LOW DOES NOT MOVE THESE

NUMBERS. >> OKAY.

>> ANY PERCENTAGE, TO PERCENTAGE.

>> FROM THE AVERAGE? >> FROM THE AVERAGE PRINT.

>> NEXT WEEK HE WILL COME BACK WITH A RECOMMENDATION NUMBER.

>> I WILL CRUNCH THE NUMBERS A VARIETY OF WAYS AND SO ALL THAT

TO YOU. >> MY QUESTION IS TO COMMISSIONER SCHULZ POINT. AS WE LOOK AT THESE, WE ARE LOOKING AT A HUGE CLIP EVERY 5| YEARS.

IS THAT A FAIR STATEMENT? I MEAN, THE LAST TIME THESE WERE REALLY READJUSTED IN A BIG WAY ACROSS THE BOARD.

>> IN 2016.> 2014 NUMBERS THAT WE ADJUSTED FROM.

>> RIGHT. AND SO, I JUST LOOK AT THAT AND SAY IS THERE THE POSSIBILITY OF JUST CREATING A POLICY WHERE Ã ÃAND I DON'T KNOW COURSE, I'VE NOT DISCUSSED IT WITH ANY OF

YOU. >> IN THE PAST.

>> THE QUICK AND I WILL GIVE YOU THE ANSWER THAT PEERED SO, YOUR ANSWER WOULD BE GIVING YOURSELF A RAISE EVERY YEAR.

AND THAT IS USUALLY NOT VERY WELL RECEIVED.

>> WE TALKED ABOUT A LITTLE BIT.

WHATEVER WE GIVE THE EMPLOYEES, THAT IS WHAT WE GIVE THE

ELECTED'S.> YES. >> THEN YOU DON'T RUN INTO WHAT

WE ARE RUNNING INTO TODAY. >> MY POINT WOULD BE AND MY SUGGESTION WOULD BE IS AS WE LOOK AND GET THIS STUDY FROM MAG FOR POSSIBLE FULL IMPLEMENTATION ÃÃI DON'T ANTICIPATE THAT WE'RE GONNA IMPLEMENT THE WHOLE THING IN THE NEXT SIX MONTHS. WE ME.T JUST DEPENDS ON WHAT THEY COME BACK WITH.

AVING SOMETHING NOT TIED TO Ã ÃYOU KNOW ÃÃEVEN IF IT'S NOT COLD AND NOT MERIT. ON WHAT WE DO.

IT WOULD AVOID IS HAVING TO LOOK AT SOMETHING AND SAYING ON SOMEBODY'S ELECTED OFFICIALS, WE MIGHT BE GIVING THEM A 20 PERCENT RAISE. I MEAN, IT'S A TOUGH PILL TO SWALLOW.

[LAUGHTER] >> THEY'VE GOTTEN SOME OF THE OFFICIALS IN THE 20 PERCENT RAISE FOR THE GRIEVANCE PROCESS GETTING 10 PERCENT. SEVERAL TIMES.

AND I REMEMBER WHEN THE COURT Ã ÃAS A STAFF MEASURED THIS.

I KEEP SPEAKING FROM MY PART AS A STAFF MEMBER.

IN 2016 FOR THAT ÃJUST THE COURT TO DISCUSS IS THERE A WAY TO DO THIS AND LET'S JUST NOT THE CORE OUT OF THE DISCUSSION.

JUST ELECTED OFFICIALS AND FORGET ABOUT COMMISSIONERS COURT. IS THERE A WAY TO HAVE THERE BE SOME INCREASE EVERY YEAR? I COULD SEND FOR EMPLOYEES SO THAT THERE ISN'T A 20 PERCENT DEFICIT IN FIVE OR SIX OR SEVEN

YEARS? >> THE COURT DID NOT ADOPT THAT BECAUSE IT MEANS GIVING ELECTED OFFICIALS A RAISE EVERY SINGLE YEAR. IT'S JUST ÃÃNOBODY WANTS TO.

AS AN ELECTED OFFICIAL, NOBODY WANTS TO JUST ÃÃWE HAVE NOT IN THE PAST SIX YEARS. EXCEPT WE WANT TO GIVE OURSELVES A RAISE. THAT IS A HARD THING TO DO PUBLICLY WHEN YOU'RE GETTING PAID FOR BY TAXPAYER DOLLARS TO SAY THAT I NEED A RAISE. THEREFORE WE DON'T EVER DO IT.

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ELECTED OFFICIALS ACROSS THE COUNTY START GRIEVING.

RIGHT? AND THEN THEY ARE SUCCESSFUL.

AND THEN AGAIN, YOU'VE THE CONSTABLE OR TWO CONSTABLES AND NOT ALL CONSTABLES ARE GETTING BEING SUCCESSFUL IN THE AGREEMENTS PROCESS PRINT WHICH MAKES YOU? THE NEXT YEAR AND THEN LEVEL THEM ALL BACK OUT.

AND SO, THE COURT HAS DISCUSSED THAT FOR THE 12 YEARS THAT I'VE BEEN HERE. MULTIPLE TIMES.

COULD THERE JUST NOT BE THE SAME TYPE OF CONSIDERATION THE EMPLOYEES GET FOR THREE OR FOUR PERCENT FIVE PERCENT A YEAR DEPENDING ON WHAT IT IS. THAT MEANS YOU'LL NEVER HAVE THE 20 PERCENT INCREASE BASED ON UPON AN EIGHT-YEAR NOT ADJUSTED FOR SALARIES. AND IT HAS NEVER WORKED.

I CAN SAY THAT I'VE SUPPORTED IT EITHER BECAUSE IT IS EVERY SINGLE YEAR. OF A PERMANENT RAISE FOR YOURSELF. LET EVEN BASED UPON A MARKET OR ANYTHING ELSE. BASED ON THE MARKET CHANGING.

HOW TO ANSWER THE QUESTION OF WHAT AN ELECTED OFFICIAL SHOULD GET PAID? IS THIS THE RIGHT WAY? THERE IS NO RIGHT WAY BECAUSE YOU'RE COMPARING PEOPLE WHO COULD BE DOING COMPLETELY DIFFERENT THINGS AND PRODUCING PUT DIFFERENT VALUES. SOME OF YOU SHOULD BE GETTING NEGATIVE FOR THE JOB THAT THEY DO.

NOT ACROSS THE BOARD. THERE IS PLENTY OF REPRESENTATIVES ACROSS THIS COUNTRY.

I WOULD PROBABLY SAY THAT THEY SHOULD BE.

THERE A DETRIMENT TO THOSE WHO SHOULD BE PAYING TO DO IT.

HERE IS NO FAIR WAY TO SET THOSE SALARIES.

AND SO, THAT IS WHY IN 2016 ÃÃ AS A STAFF MEMBER, I PRESENTED THIS IN CORPUS. THE COUNTY PAPER A CITIZEN COMMITTEE TO DO SOME METHODOLOGY.

THE CORE AT THAT TIME DID NOT WANT TO SAY AND TALK ABOUT THE RAISES THAT THEY ARE GONNA BE IMPROVING FOR THEIR COLLEAGUES OR ANYTHING ELSE. THEY WILL PICK A METHODOLOGY THAT IS DETERMINED FAIRLY. AND AT THAT TIME, THE COURT APPLIED A YEAR BEHIND SO THAT THEY WOULD MAKE SURE THEY WERE NOT AHEAD OF THE MARKET WENT EVER THEY DID ADOPTED.

THE RIGHT WAY OR WRONG WAY IS Ã ¦ I DON'T KNOW. I JUST GOT COURTS IN GENERAL ARE EVER GOING TO ADOPT A PLAN THAT GIVES THEM A RAISE EVERY YEAR. I WOULD NOT EVEN SUPPORT.

>> THAT'S NOT WHAT I'M SAYING. WHAT I'M SAYING IS SOME TYPE OF GRADUATED WHERE VERY EASILY ÃÃ THERE ARE YEARS THAT WE HAVE NOT DONE:. WE HAVE NOT DONE DIFFERENT THINGS.

I DON'T THINK I WOULD EVER SUPPORT ANY TYPE OF MERIT-BASED PAY. WHO WOULD MAKE THE DETERMINATION FOR US? WE GET THAT DECISION EVERY FOUR

YEARS. >> WILL BE IN COURT NEXT WEEK?

>> WE ARE APPEARING NEXT WEEK AT ONE.

IF WE CAN WAIT FOR HER SUGGESTIONS.

>> WE ARE NOT DECIDING THIS TODAY.

>> IT WILL BE NEXT WEEK. SO, IF YOU GUYS ARE OKAY WITH THIS, I'M NOT TRYING TO SHOW ANYBODY OUT.

THIS LAST THING YOU WANT TO PROMISE.

BUT IF YOU GUYS ARE OKAY WITH IT, WE CAN WRAP THIS UP NEXT WEEK AFTER HER RECOMMENDATIONS. DOES THAT SEEM OKAY? ALL RIGHT. WHAT ELSE ON YOUR BUDGET LANE,

VICKI?M I RIGHT? >> YES SIR.

>> THE SCHEDULE FOR NEXT WEEK? >> TENTATIVELY.

THIS IS THE SCHEDULE THAT A BE TODAY OUTLINING WHAT YOU WILL NEED TO CONSIDER NEXT WEEK.

DURING THE PUBLIC HEARING. REX AND NOT IT'S A QUESTION FOR ALL OF THESE DATES. ALL IN THE PAST.

IT'S ALREADY BEEN ADDRESSED AND WE HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING ON AUGUST 23 AT 1 PM. HERE IN THIS COURTROOM.

AND THE TIME WAS CHOSEN SO THAT FOLKS ÃÃIF THEY HAVE TO MISS ANY KIND OF WORK, THEY COULD MISS AND A HALF DAY.

IT'S JUST OF COURSE AN ATTEMPT OF MAKING IT MOST ACCESSIBLE.

O, THAT WAS A GOOD MOVE. >> COMMISSIONER?

>> JUDGE, I WAS JUST CAN ASK ON THE TWO PRESENTATIONS THAT WE HAD FROM THE COUNCIL FOR INDIGENOUS COMMUNITIES.

AND FOR THE GREATER SENT MARCUS AREA SENIOR ASSOCIATION.HICH IS THE CENTER. I KNOW THAT WE LEFT THE COMMUNITY ÃWHAT DO THEY CALL THEM? SOCIAL SERVANTS. MAYBE WE CHANGE THE NAME.

WE HAVE LEFT THEM FLAT.

I KNOW THAT VICKI DID PUT ASIDE COMMUNITY AND PUBLIC SERVICE. VICKI DID PUT ASIDE SOME FUNDS IN THE EVENT THAT WE WANTED TO CONSIDER THE FUNDING FOR SET C AND D WHAT I WOULD CALL THE PRICE CENTER.

AND SO, I DON'T KNOW FROM TAKING THIS OUT OF THE DIRECTION THAT WE NEED TO GO IN, BUT I WOULD BE WILLING TO MAKE A MOTION FOR THOSE TWO ITEMS AS WE GO AHEAD AND FLOOD

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I TAKE THE MONEY THAT WAS SET ASIDE FOR THAT ÃÃWELL, NOT NECESSARILY FOR THAT PURPOSE. BUT, TO CONSIDER ÃÃI AM WILLING TO CONSIDER AND DO THAT JUDGE.

ALSO THE 40,000 ONE-TIME EXPENDITURES OUT BOAT RESERVES TO FUND THE REPLACEMENT HVAC UNITS FOR THE PRICE CENTER.

>> I WILL SECOND THAT. >> DON'T MEET USUALLY WAIT UNTIL THE LAST ONE TO GO THROUGH THE LIST? THAT WAY WE HAVE EVERYTHING THAT IS REQUESTED?

>> I WILL HAVE A LIST OF ALL OF THE CHANGES THAT NEED TO BE CONSIDERED WITH THE COURT NEXT WEEK.

SO, WE ARE POSTED FOR POSSIBLE ACTION TODAY.

SO, YOU CAN TAKE A VOTE TODAY ON ITEMS OR WE CAN WE AS WE HISTORICALLY DO. I WILL BRING A LIST OF ALL THE CHANGES FOR YOU TO CONSIDER AT THAT TIME.

>> OKAY. I THINK I LIKE TO SEE THEM ALL TOGETHER NEXT TUESDAY WE MAKE SURE THAT WE SEE OTHERS

REQUESTS. >> THE OTHER THING THAT IT SAYS I HAD THIS CONVERSATION WAS WITH THE FOLKS THAT ARE HERE TODAY. WE'VE GOTTEN FOLKS THAT WE HAVE SUPPORTED FOR YEARS ON THAT LIST.

AND SOME OF THEM ARE ASKING FOR WHAT I WOULD CONSIDER COMPLETELY ON ATTAINABLE INCREASES.

I WAS VERY IMPRESSED WITH THE PRESENTATIONS TODAY.

I'LL BE SUPPORTIVE NEXT WEEK. I CAN ASSURE YOU.

I DON'T KNOW THE LEVELS. I'M GONNA BE SUPPORTIVE OF EACH ONE OF THESE INCREASES FOR REQUESTS.

AND IN FORT NEW. AT THE END OF THE DAY, THE $25,000 IN ADDITIONAL FUNDING WAS THERE.

IT IS TRULY $25,000 TOTAL FOR ALL OF THESE SOCIAL SERVICE ORGANIZATIONS THAT WE HAVE IN THERE.

AND I REALLY WANT TO TAKE A CHANCE AND REVIEW SOME OF THIS.

BECAUSE SOME OF THOSE ORGANIZATIONS AND THEIR HAVE REACHED OUT TO YOU AND HAVE REQUESTED WHY YOU NEED AN INCREASE AND WHY ARE YOU ÃÃ WHAT ADDITIONAL SERVICES ARE YOU PROVIDING? AND I DON'T HAVE ALL THOSE ANSWERS YET. AND SO, I WOULD FEEL MUCH BETTER LOOKING AT IT NEXT WEEK. ESPECIALLY.

>> THAT WAY WE HAVE 90 PERCENT OF WHAT THE SERVICES ASK FOR WHAT WE ARE RECOMMENDING, RIGHT?

>> YES. >> SOME OF THEM TOO.

SOME OF THEM ARE TWICE OF WHAT WE'VE GIVEN THEM IN THE PAST.

>> I'M SORRY. I KNEW I WAS POSSIBLY TAKING THINGS OUT OF ORDER, BUT I FELT COMFORTABLE DOING THAT.

AND SINCE I DIDN'T ÃÃI WAS NOT SPECIFIC AND IF WE NEED TO WAIT AN ADDITIONAL WEEK ÃÃYOU KNOW? SO BE IT. BUT, I WAS ASKING FOR AN ADDITIONAL $6000 FOR THE PRICE CENTER TO MEET THEM UP TO 10.

THERE CURRENTLY AT FOUR. AND THEN 14 615 460.

SO, THAT IS JUST TO CLARIFY. >> DO WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND? THANKS FOR THE CLARIFICATION.

AND WE HAVE HAD A DISCUSSION AND I HEARD YOUR OPINIONS.

BUT, WE COULD RESCIND THE MOTION OR CALL A VOTE.

>> JUDGE, I GUESS ÃÃI DO NOT WANT TO TAKE A VOTE AND THEN

THE MOTION FAILED. >> BECAUSE IT COULD CONVEY THE WRONG MOTION MESSAGE BASED ON THE SUPPORT SHOWN IN THE COURT.

>> GO AHEAD. >> GO AHEAD.

>> NO. AND I MIGHT WANT TO ASK YOU ABOUT GETTING THE PRICE CENTER UP TO WHERE IT MIGHT BE AGREEABLE. MAKE A 12,000.

>> I THOUGHT ABOUT THAT TOO. >> LIKE YOU SAID, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THEM ALL TOGETHER SO THAT WE ARE FAIR TO EVERYBODY.

AND I THINK THAT IS WHAT WE PUBLISHED THAT WE WERE GOING TO

DO. >> OKAY.

>> DO YOU WANT TO? >> SO I WILL RECENT MY MOTION

JUDGE. >> OKAY.

>> TO STAY IN MOTION WITH ÃÃI SHOULD USE A DIFFERENT WORD.

TUESDAY CONSISTENT WITH PREVIOUS VISITS ÃÃ ORGANIZATIONS, WE WILL CONSIDER THE FUNDING FOR THESE ORGANIZATIONS NEXT WEEK. HERE IN THE NEXT WORKSHOP.

OKAY. THANK YOU COMMISSIONER ENGELS BE AND THANK YOU COMMISSIONERS FOR ALL OF YOUR COMMENTS.

AND AT THIS POINT IN TIME, I WILL CLOSE THE WORKSHOP AND

GIVE US A 10 MINUTE RECESS. >> THANK YOU.

[K2. Discussion and possible action authorizing the County Judge to execute an Interlocal Cooperation Agreement between Hays County and the Hays Consolidated ISD related to adding three partially federally funded school resource officers and amend the budget accordingly. JONES/CUTLER]

[K3. Discussion and possible action authorizing the County Judge to execute an Interlocal Cooperation Agreement between Hays County and the Dripping Springs ISD related to adding one partially federally funded school resource officer and amend the budget accordingly. SMITH/CUTLER]

[K4. Discussion and possible action to authorize the County Judge to execute an Intergovernmental Inmate Housing Agreement between Hays County, Haskell County, and LaSalle Corrections West, LLC. for the care and custody of overflow Hays County inmates and amend the budget accordingly; authorizing a discretionary exemption pursuant to Section 262.024(a)(2) of the Texas Local Government Code. SMITH/CUTLER]

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>> WE HAVE A MOTION AND CAN I HAVE A SECOND?

IT'S EXACTLY RIGHT TO. >> THANK YOU JUDGE.

SEVERAL WEEKS AGO ÃÃSEVERAL WEEKS AGO, AS A COURT, YOU GUYS ASKED ME ÃÃI VOLUNTEERED TO LOOK INTO OTHER SITUATIONS OTHER THAN DIRECT WITH HOUSING INMATES AS WELL AS SOME OF OUR NEIGHBORS. I'M NOT SURE OF THE TOTAL NUMBER OF COUNTIES THAT WE HAVE PRISONERS AND OR HAD PRISONERS AND IN THE LAST THREE AND HALF YEARS SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE.

IT HAS BEEN A LOT. YOU PROBABLY KNOW THAT.HIEF

DAVENPORT. >> NINE.

>> NINE? >> REALLY PROMPTED THIS WAS FUELED LOOKING OKLAHOMA AND LOUISIANA.

FOR POSSIBLE INMATE LOCATION. ONE THAT THE GENERAL PUBLIC AND CONSTITUENTS MAY NOT KNOW IS THAT WE ARE NOT THE ONLY ONES IN THIS SITUATION IN THE STATE TO SAY THE LEAST.

AS WE STARTED LOOKING AT WHERE WE COULD HOUSE INMATES AND CONSOLIDATE THOSE INMATES THAT WE MIGHT HAVE, WE REALLY RUN INTO A WALL. IN COMPETING WITH OTHER COUNTIES IN THE STATE. THAT BEING THE CASE, I WILL USE HARRIS COUNTY AS AN EXAMPLE. WHENEVER WE ARE TRYING TO NEGOTIATE WE TRY TO REACH OUT TO SOME OF THESE COUNTIES AND COMPANIES TO SAY HEY, WE WOULD LOVE FOR YOU TAKE SOME OF OUR PRISONERS. IT'S GREAT WHEN WE CAN SAY OKAY ÃÃA FINANCIAL STANDPOINT FOR YOU, WE CAN SAY THAT WE ARE GOING TO GET 50 PRISONERS THERE ARE 100 PRISONERS IN SHORT ORDER. HARRIS COUNTY SAYS THAT WE NEED A THOUSAND BEDS. KIND OF PUTS US AT A COMPETITIVE DISADVANTAGE WITH THIS OTHER COUNTIES.

IN TARRANT COUNTY SAYS WILL TAKE 500 BEDS ÃÃTHAT PUTS US AT A COMPETITIVE DISADVANTAGE. I WAS VERY AFTER MEETING WITH SEVERAL THESE COMPANIES ÃÃI WAS VERY GLAD THAT HASKELL COUNTY ITSELF AND CORRECTIONS STEPPED UP AND OFFERED TO TAKE THESE PRISONERS. THIS FACILITY HAS BEEN BROUGHT

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UP TO COUNTY JAIL STANDARDS AND WILL BE INSPECTED AS SUCH BY THE STATE. THE CONTRACT THAT IS ATTACHED TO THIS AGENDA ITEM IN THE BACK IS PRETTY SUBSTANTIVE AND I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO JORDAN POWELL FROM OUR GENERAL COUNSEL'S OFFICE. SHE HAS SPENT A LOT OF TIME ON THIS. I DON'T SEE THAT LATELY.

A LOT OF TIME ON THIS. WORKING WITH BOTH THE COMPANY.

HASKELL COUNTY AND AS WELL AS OUR S OUT.

I WANT TO THANK CHIEF DAVENPORT FOR HIS WORK ON THIS.

AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT MAY NOT BE APPARENT TO THIS CONTRACT IS THE FACT THAT ONE OF OUR LARGEST EXPENSES OTHER THAN JUST THE SIMPLY HOUSING OF THE INMATES IS OUR TRANSPORTATION COSTS. TRANSPORTATION COSTS FOR INDIVIDUAL DEPUTIES TO ESCORT THESE PRISONERS BACK AND FORTH ÃÃTHE FUEL COST, THE VEHICLE MAINTENANCE COST.

AND PULLING THOSE AS THOSE SHARES DEPUTIES OUT OF OUR COUNTY TO DO THIS WORK. ONE OF THE POSITIVES ABOUT THIS CONTRACT IS THAT THERE IS TRANSPORTATION PROVIDED BY LOW-SALT TWICE A WEEK BACK AND FORTH FROM THE FACILITY.

AND SO, THAT WILL SAVE US IN IMMENSITY OF AMOUNT OF MONEY ON TRANSPORTATION AS WELL. WITH THAT, THAT IS MY KIND OF GENERAL OVERVIEW OF THE ITEM AND THEN I WOULD ASK DEPUTY CUMBERLAND RITCHIE ÃJUST SORRY DAVENPORT.

WHY DON'T YOU SAY THAT? I JUST SAID SERENA'S NAME.

THAT'S WHY WANT TO KEEP CALLING YOU CUMBERLAND.

THE CHIEF DAVENPORT. IF HE HAS ANYTHING ELSE HE

WOULD LIKE TO ADD OR CLARIFY. >> YOU COVERED IT REALLY WELL.

I TOO REALLY HAVE TO COMMEND JORDAN.

SHE PUT A TON OF WORK INTO THIS.

AND IT DID NOT STOP AFTER FIVE. WE HAD MANY CONVERSATIONS AFTER FIVE. SO, I REALLY APPRECIATE HER EFFORTS. AND COMMISSIONER SMITH AS WELL.

HE REALLY GOT THIS BALL ROLLING.

I HAD TALKED TO THE SAME COMPANY TWO WEEKS PRIOR.

AND THEY JUST KIND OF CHUCKLED AT ME.

AND SAID YES. WE DO NOT HAVE ANYTHING.

SO WORK YOUR MAGIC AND I APPRECIATE IT.

COMMISSIONER SMITH? NOT CUMBERLAND.

[LAUGHTER] TOUCHED ON THE TRANSPORTATION ASPECT AND THAT TYPICALLY GETS LOST IN THE CONVERSATION.

FOR THE TRANSPORTATION PART IS HUGE.

WE STRUGGLE TO KEEP UP WITH THAT ON A DAY TO DAY BASIS.

SO, THIS WILL BE A GOOD SHOCK AND ALL FOR US.

THANK YOU. >> ONLY TO MAKE A LITTLE CLARIFICATION. WHEN WE OPENED THIS AGENDA ITEM AND I MADE A COMMENT OF APPRECIATION AND GLAD TO BE A PART OF THIS. I WAS THINKING STILL IN MY HEAD OF LAW ENFORCEMENT SUPPORTING SAFETY IN OUR SCHOOLS.

THIS AGENDA ITEM. I WANT TO CLARIFY FOR ANYBODY THAT MIGHT BE WATCHING FOR WHAT WE WANT TO SEE IN THE FUTURE.

I GOT A QUESTION FOR JORDAN. YOU HAVE A MICROPHONE THERE, RIGHT? IF YOU COULD ROTATE THAT BABY AND TURN IT ON. CAN YOU SUMMARIZE FOR THE PUBLIC WITH THIS CONTRACT WILL COST PER HEAD AND PER INMATE AND PRISONER? WHATEVER WORDS WE'RE USING.

TO TAKE THIS COMPANY? >> SURE.

>> THE HOUSE ARE INMATES? >> SURE.

ORDAN POWELL, CENTRAL GENERAL COUNSEL.

IT IS ABOUT 95 DOLLARS PER INMATE PER DAY.

THAT IS INCLUSIVE OF THOSE TWO ROUND-TRIP TRANSFERS PER WEEK THAT EITHER COMMISSIONER SMITH OR CHIEF DAVENPORT MENTIONED BEFORE. THAT IS INCLUSIVE OF THOSE TRIPS AS WELL. AND INCLUSIVE OF ALL ROUTINE AND MEDICAL AND ON PRESCRIPTIVE MEDS AND ALL THAT STUFF.95 PER INMATE PER DAY RATE INCLUDES ALL THAT.

>> AND WE HISTORICALLY PAID APPROXIMATELY 50 AND 60 AND $75 PER INMATE? SOMETIMES THAT MIGHT NOT INCLUDE MEDICAL AND OTHER COUNTY CONTRACTS, CORRECT?> ANY RATE THAT WE HAVE WITH ANY OTHER COUNTY RIGHT NOW ÃÃNONE OF THEM INCLUDE TRANSPORT AT ALL.

MEDICAL ÃÃOUR RATES ÃÃWITH THE NINE COUNTIES WE HAVE, I THINK THE RANGE ANYWHERE FROM RIGHT NOW FROM I THINK OUR LOWEST IS MAYBE 60-ISH? AND OUR HIGHEST IS 100.

AND OF OUR HIGHEST IS IN THE HUNDRED RIGHT NOW.

OUR LOWEST IS PROBABLY 60 IS. I COULD RESEARCH THAT.

LIKE I SAID, NOT NONE OF THOSE RATES INCLUDE ANY SORT OF TRANSPORT WHATSOEVER. THEY WOULD INCLUDE ROUTINE MEDICAL PRESCRIPTION MEDS. AND HOW MANY BEDS OF THE

COMMITTEE TEST? >> WELL, RIGHT NOW, THEY ARE DOING JUSTICE THERE GUARANTEEING US 100.

STARTING OCTOBER 1. THEY ARE TAKING 50 THIS WEEK OR NEXT

WEEK. >> THIS WEEK THEY ARE TAKING

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50. IT WILL TAKE ANOTHER 50 FOUR OCTOBER 1 OF THE FISCAL YEAR. AND FOR THIS UPCOMING FISCAL YEAR, WE ARE GUARANTEED 1500 BEDS AND AFTER THIS FISCAL YEAR, WILL BE GUARANTEED 200 BEDS FOR THE FOLLOWING TWO FISCAL YEARS. SO, FOR FY 23 JUSTICE WE HAVE 100 GUARANTEES AND F I 24 AND 25 COULD WE HAVE 200 GUARANTEED AND SOME OPTIONAL RENEWAL PERIOD AFTER THAT.

>> CHIEF, I KNOW THAT YOU ARE WORKING ON D1 AND D2.

HE TELLS AN UPDATE ON THAT? >> SO, THOSE ARE COMPLETE.

WE GOT OUR CERTIFICATE CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY LAST WEEK I BELIEVE. SO, THEY ARE READY TO GO.

>> ANY BEDS OR HEADS DOES THAT REPRESENT?

>> A LITTLE OVER 100. >> OKAY.

AND SO ÃÃI'M THE BIGGEST FISCAL STEWARD.

I MEAN ÃÃI'M THINKING OF NOT SENDING PEOPLE AT THE TUNE OF $10,000 A DAY TO A PRIVATE ORGANIZATION IN A CELL CORRECTIONS WEST LLC. WANT TO AVOID IT.

OF COURSE, YOU KNOW I DO. SO, TO HAVE THE ONE AND TWO READY. BECAUSE I KNOW THAT YOU GUYS HAVE BEEN WORKING HARD ON. I KNOW YOU HAVE.

NO DOUBT. THAT IS ALMOST 100 PEOPLE A DAY THAT WE COULD KEEP HERE NOW. BECAUSE YOUR FACILITY HAS JUST COD. RIGHT? SO, THIS CAN BE A PLUS. IN OSAMA TOTAL NUMBER OUTSOURCED. BUT THAT'S GONNA BE READY AS

QUICK AS WHEN YOU SAY? >> AS SOON AS WE ARE ABLE TO

STAFF IT. >> SO, YOUR STUFF ON THE

STAFFING. >> STAFFING IS THE ISSUE NEVER.

>> ONLY GO ONE AT A TIME TO WALK THE COMMUNITY TO THIS.

SO, FACILITIES READY, BUT NOW WE ARE NOT UP TO THIS DAVENPORT? AND TO HAVE THAT COMPONENT IS TO SPEED ON GETTING AVALANCHE WITH ALL THIS.

SO, TO HAVE THE STAFFING CAPACITY TO PUT THE HUNDRED BEDS TO WORK TO USE THIS DISH HOW MANY CORRECTIONS OFFICERS

YOU NEED. >> YOU WOULD NEED TO SHIFTS.

THAT IS EIGHT. AND THEN YOU NEED TO FACTOR IN RELIEF FACTOR. YOU WOULD NEED ROUGHLY 10 OR

12. >> 10Ä2? I'M WONDERING IF THERE IS NOT SOME AND THIS IS IN HUGE SUPPORT VIEW CHIEF. AND THE SHERIFF.

I DON'T ANYONE TO MISCONSTRUE MY MESSAGE OR INTENTIONS.

THEY MAY NOT LIKE MY METHOD, BUT THAT IS ANOTHER CONVERSATION. I AM ASKING IF WE COULDN'T ÃÃ INSTEAD OF GETTING $10,000 A DAY TO A PRIVATE ORGANIZATION TO HOUSE OUR NEIGHBORS ÃÃCAN WE TURBO BOOST SHERRY STONE HERE? CAN WE TURBO BOOST THE PAY FOR THIS ERECTIONS POSITIONS BECAUSE WE ARE LITERALLY POURING OUT RIDICULOUS AMOUNTS OF MONEY ON OUTSOURCING? THERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY RIGHT THERE TO GIVE YOU A DOZEN CORRECTIONAL OFFICERS WITH SOME SIGN-ON BONUS AND SOME HI DOLLARS SIGN-ON BONUS. I BELIEVE THAT WE ARE NOT DOING EVERYTHING WE CAN TO SUPPORT YOU AS WELL AND SAYING.

IS THERE SOMETHING WE CAN DO TO BRING THIS CONVERSATION BACK TO BETTER SUPPORT YOU GUYS TO PUT YOU IN MORE COMPETITIVE EDGE TO RING CORRECTIONAL OFFICERS IN YOUR SPACE?

>> WELL, WE'RE WORKING TO THE CONTRACTOR NOW AND THAT WOULD BE A CONTRACTUAL ISSUE THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE WORKED OUT THROUGH COLLECTIVE BARGAINING. I'M NOT POSTED .?

ANYONE. >> YES SIR.

>> I GET THIS IS MY POINT IS THAT IT'S A MARK QUESTION.

PART OF IT IS ANYWAY. I'M ALL ABOUT GIVING OUR GUY HIGHER IN ALL THAT. I HATE OUTSOURCING IS MUCH AS ANYBODY. IT'S VERY PROBLEMATIC FOR US.

ND WE ARE NOT DESIGNED TO FUNCTION LIKE WE ARE.

SO IT'S VERY INEFFICIENT. THE SOONER WE CAN CREDIT THE

BETTER. >> THAT'S RIGHT.

I'M GLAD YOU SAID THAT. BECAUSE WE ARE ON THE SAME TEAM HERE. EVERYWHERE YOU LOOK AT THIS.

MR. KENNEDY ÃÃI JUST WANTED TO ASK YOU THE QUESTION THAT WAS DISPOSED ABOUT HOW CAN WE TEST THIS IS THERE SOME WINDOW THAT WE CAN JUMP THROUGH TO GET THE SHERIFF AND CHIEF DEPUTY THE SUPPORT THAT THEY NEED TO GET THE DOESN'T CORRECTIONS OFFICERS THAT WE NEED TO FULLY FIREPOWER FACILITIES? WHAT CAN WE DO OUTSIDE OF COLLECTIVE BARGAINING?

>> NOTHING. >> THAT WAS THE QUESTION ORIGINALLY ASKED JUDGE. BUT I WILL TRY TO DO MY BEST TO

ANSWER ALL QUESTIONS. >> THANK YOU.

>> PAY IS DICTATED BY THE COLLECTIVE BARGAINING

AGREEMENT. >> WE GO THROUGH GRANTS BARGAINING. AND THAT IS TYPICALLY AT LEAST

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ÃÃMOST RECENTLY EVERY FOUR YEARS.

WE HAVE A TWO YEAR UPDATE IN THE MID TERM OF THE CONTRACT.

HAT IS WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW.

SO, WE HAD A MEETING WITH BARGAINING UNIT UPCOMING TO FINALIZE NUMBERS ON LOOKING AT MARKET AND LOOKING AT OTHER FACTORS. TO TRY TO GET RECRUITMENT ATTENTION WHERE WE NEED IT. FOR CORRECTIONS OFFICERS AND DEPUTIES. THAT WILL BE DONE AND I EXPECT IT WILL COME BACK TO THE COURTROOM THE BUDGET CYCLE.

YOU CAN COLLECT IT THERE. WE'VE SET SOME MONEY ASIDE FOR THAT AND YOU SELL IT IN VICKI'S REVIEW OF THE BUDGET.

WHEN SHE PRESENTED IT LAST SESSION.

TWO SESSIONS AGO. SO ÃÃTHERE IS NOT ÃÃTO ANSWER THE OTHER QUESTION THOUGH.

BECAUSE OF THE COLLECTIVE BARGAINING AGREEMENT ÃTHIS WE ARE LIMITED IN WHAT WE CAN DO HOG.

IT WOULD BE TESTED EVEN THAT WOULD BENEFIT CORRECTIONS OFFICERS ÃÃWOULD BE NOT IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE CBA TO SIMPLY INJECT DOLLARS INTO IT WITHOUT AMENDING THE AGREEMENT

IN SOME WAY. >> SO, I SHOULD SEE THE COLLECTIVE BARRED BARGAINING AGREEMENT.

AS A FLOOR THAT WE CAN MOVE CORRECTIONS INTO A BIG INJECTION OF PAY. BUT MORE THAN LOCKING IN THE FRAMEWORK PERIOD IN ALL ASPECTS.

>> IS NOT A FLOOR OR CEILING. T'S A NEGOTIATED POINT.

IN THIS CASE, THE COLLECTIVE BARGAINING AGREEMENT WAS NEGOTIATED TWO YEARS AGO. AND WILL LAST FOR ANOTHER TWO.

>> BUT, THE GOOD NEWS IS THAT WE ARE IN THE MIDST OF REASSESSING THOSE MARKETS AND REASSESSING PAY AND THERE WILL BE AN INJECTION OF FUNDING OF THE SALARIES AND CORRECTIONS OFFICERS MOVING FORWARD. WHAT THAT EXACT NUMBER IS WILL BE DETERMINED IN THESE LAST COUPLE OF MEETINGS.NE IS A COLLECTIVE BARGAINING MEETING WITH THE UNIT AND THEN ANOTHER IS A MEETING OF THE COURT TO CONFIRM THAT PAY THAT IS

PROPOSED. >> OKAY.ND NOT TO CONTAIN THIS ITEM. THE PAY ÃI DON'T GET TOO FAR FROM WAS WRITTEN. BUT THE PAY AND THE TEST IS OUR BROTHER. THE CORRECTIONS VERSUS DEPUTIES ÃÃMY HOPE AND THIS IS TO SWEETEN THE POT A SIGNIFICANT WAY SO THAT YOU ARE NEVER HERE AGAIN CHIEF.

AS BEST AS WE CAN HELP IT. AND SO, THE NEXT QUESTION OR FINAL QUESTION ON I WILL HAVE FOR JORDAN IS ARE WE COMMITTED TO PROVIDING $10,000 A DAY WORTH OF INMATES BUSSELL? TO BE SIGNED THIS CONTRACT AND SAY THAT WE HAVE TO GIVE THEM? THIS NUMBER OR IS IT UP TO THIS NUMBER?

>> UNTIL OCTOBER 1, 2022 ÃÃIT IS UP TO 100 AND THEN COME OCTOBER 1, 2022 ÃÃTHEY ARE GUARANTEEING US 100 BEDS.

WHICH MEANS THAT WE WILL PAY FOR 100 BEDS.

DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION? >> 100 PERCENT.

>> WEIGHT ÃÃWE WILL COMMIT TO 100 BEDS A DAY AFTER OCTOBER 1.

>> YES. FOR FY 2023.

YES. >> STARTING OCTOBER 1.

>> YES. >> GOTCHA.

THAT IS A LOCK DOWN COMMITMENT COMMISSIONERS.

YOU ARE COMMITTING TO JUST SAY NO.

YOU'RE COMMITTING TO AN EYEBALL SHUT UP AFTER THIS ONE.

YOU ARE COMMITTING TO OUTSOURCING INMATES TO THIS PRIVATE FACILITY TO THE TUNE OF $10,000 TODAY.

THAT IS THE FRAMING OF IT. IN MY HEAD.

ANYTHING ELSE THAT I'VE LEFT OUT OR MISREPRESENTED?

CHIEF? >> NOPE, THANK YOU.

>> IF I CAN CLARIFY FOR JUST A SECOND.

IT IS A TRI-PARTY AGREEMENT BETWEEN HAYS COUNTY IN HASKELL COUNTY AND THE FELL CORRECTIONS.

SO, IT'S NOT COMPLETELY PRIVATE.

I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY. IT IS OVERSEEN.

SUPERVISED ÃÃRAN BY HASKELL COUNTY.

BUT OPERATED BY LASALLE. I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY THE BUT.

THAT IS THE TRI-PARTY. >> THE CLARIFY ÃTHIS WAS SELF AND CORRECT ME FROM WRONG HERE. THE SOUTH STATEWIDE ÃJUST ISSUES THAT WE ARE HAVING IN SECURING CORRECTIONS OFFICERS HAPPENING STATEWIDE. NOT JUST WITH US.

BUT WITH OTHER COUNTIES. AND UNDER THIS CONTRACT THAT THEY HAVE WITH HASKELL COUNTY Ã THIS THEY PROVIDING THE CEOS FOR THAT FACILITY. AM I INCORRECT IN THAT?

>> NO. THAT IS CORRECT.

IN HASKELL COUNTY HOLDS BEAR COMMISSIONS AND OTHER CERTIFICATIONS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

>> IT'S AN AGREEMENT BETWEEN THOSE TWO MORE OR LESS CARRY THE COMMISSIONS FOR THOSE INDIVIDUALS.

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BUT, THEY ARE PROVIDING THE CEOS WHERE WE CAN.

IN A ONE OF THE NUMBERS THAT IS A HUGE NUMBER.

I WOULD SAY. ONE OF THE NUMBERS THAT JUDGE USED HERE IN COURT WAS THAT AND I REMEMBER FROM YOUR PREVIOUS BUDGET IS THAT YOUR ESTIMATES WERE FOR US TO HOUSE AN INMATE HERE WAS ANYWHERE FROM 122 $130 A DAY.

AND SO, AT THE END OF THE DAY Ã ÃI WILL SAY IF WE WANT TO LOOK AT THE PHYSICAL SIDE OF THIS. IT'S ALWAYS BEEN CHEAPER FOR US TO OUTSOURCE INMATES. DON'T THINK IT'S THE RIGHT THING. AT ALL.

BUT, IT'S ALWAYS BEEN CHEAPER. I THINK THAT ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION IS THAT CELLULAR STATEMENTS JUST AS YOU YOURSELF DISMAYED HAS MADE ABOUT THE FACT THAT WHENEVER WE HAVE A RIBBON-CUTTING AT OUR FACILITY JUSTICE WHENEVER IT'S FINALLY COMPLETED ÃÃWITH THE NEW JAIL AND COMPLETE RENOVATION OF THE OTHER CHILD ÃÃTHERE WILL BE A BUS OF INMATES LEAVING BEHIND US.

I WELL REMEMBER THAT STATEMENT. THE DIFFERENCE IS THAT THIS TIME WE ARE NOT GOING TO BE SELECTED TO BE OUR BUS.

CLING TO BE OUR AS I WAS TRYING TO DRIVE THE BUS.

THE THING TO BE US TAKING OFFICERS OFF THE STREET TO TRANSPORT THOSE PRISONERS. THE BUS IS GOING TO BELONG TO SOMEBODY ELSE AND IT'S GONNA BE THERE LIABILITY.HE LAST POINT THAT I WOULD MAKE AND I THINK THIS IS PROBABLY ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT ONES AS WE LOOK AT OVERALL ME POPULATION HERE. CAMPUS AT THIS A WHILE BACK AS WELL.OST STUDIES SHOW PREACHER ALL DETAINEES ÃÃIN COUNTY JAILS AND THE U.S. ÃÃ THE AVERAGE THE AVERAGE NUMBER OF PRETRIAL DETAINEES IS 300 AND 89 390 PER HUNDRED THOUSAND POPULATION. THE LOOK AT THE OVERALL BUDGET ESTIMATES ÃÃPARDON ME, THE OVERALL CENSUS ESTIMATES ÃAS WE WERE LOOKING AT THEM EARLIER TODAY.N RELATION TO OUR BROADBAND STUFF. IF YOU TAKE THOSE NUMBERS ÃÃ WE SHOULD HAVE OVER 900. IF YOU ARE AVERAGE.

WE WOULD HAVE OVER 900 INMATES. IN OUR JAIL.

OR IN OUR SYSTEM. RIGHT NOW WITH THE CHANGES THAT HAVE BEEN SPEARHEADED BY COMMISSIONER ANGLES BEING COMMISSIONER SHALL TO OUR SYSTEM HERE ÃÃWHICH HAVE BEEN INSTITUTED BY OUR SHARES DEPARTMENT.

WE HAVE LIMITED THE NUMBER OF INMATES HERE SUBSTANTIALLY.

WE DON'T HAVE THIS DISH IF YOU'RE NOT IN JAIL WITH ONE MISDEMEANOR. IF YOU ARE, NOT THERE VERY LONG. THE VAST MAJORITY OF OUR INMATES ARE YES, THERE PRETRIAL DETAINEES. THINK WE HAVE CHIEF, I MANY JUST ÃÃAN ESTIMATE ÃTHE SONOMA CAN ASK YOU NUMBERS THAT YOU MAY NOT KNOW THE EXACT, BUT HOW MANY INMATES DO YOU THINK WE HAVE IN THE JAIL THAT ARE THERE ONLY

FOR MISDEMEANOR CHARGES? >> LESS THAN 20 PER.

>> LESS THAN 20? HOW MANY STATE INMATES DO WE HAVE AS OF TODAY? ANOTHER WILL BE IN THE JUDGE'S

REPORT LATER, BUT. >> I WOULD GUESSTIMATE.

>> 25. >> 25.

>> ADDED THE 600 AND WAS OUR TOTAL PRISON POPULATION TO THE

JUDGE? >> I DON'T KNOW.

LET ME GUESS. MORE OR LESS 664.

>> 664.

O, WE COULD SAY 600 OF THOSE ARE OUR PRISONERS THAT SHOULD BE THERE. THAT TELLS ME THAT WE ARE RUNNING ABOUT 30 PERCENT FEWER INMATES OR 33 PERCENT FEWER INMATES THAN WHAT THE AVERAGE IS IN THE U.S. THAT TELLS ME WE'RE DOING A PRETTY GOOD JOB OF CYCLING THESE GUYS AND THESE WOMEN THROUGH. THE OTHER THING THAT I TELL YOU THAT SOMETIMES STATED HERE IS YOU KNOW, WE HAVE 85 PERCENT OF OUR INMATES ARE NINE PERCENT OF OUR INMATES PRETRIAL.

IN A PERFECT SITUATION ÃÃWANT TO PERCENT OF OUR INMATES WOULD BE PRETRIAL. HUNDRED PERCENT.

BECAUSE THE PURPOSE OF THE COUNTY CHOSE TO HOLD INDIVIDUALS THAT SHOULD NOT BE ON OUR STREETS.

UNTIL THEY GO TO TRIAL. UNTIL JUSTICE IS HEARD.

WE DON'T WANT ÃÃTHOSE PERCENTAGES OF FOLKS THAT ARE NOT PRETRIAL THERE. THAT MEANS THOSE WERE STATE PRISONERS THAT THEY SHOULD'VE COME AND PICKED UP THAT DAY.

ND SO, IT'S SOMEWHAT DISHEARTENING EVERY TIME I HEAR WELL, 85 AND 90 PERCENT OF OUR PRISONERS ARE PRETRIAL.

I WOULD LOVE TO BE ABLE TO SAY 100 PERCENT.

THAT IS NEVER GONNA HAPPEN. ITH THAT ÃÃIN THE LONG RUN ÃÃI BELIEVE THIS CONTRACT AND AGAIN ÃÃTHERE IS NO SPECIAL SAUCE THIS CONTRACT. WE LOOKED AT SEVERAL DIFFERENT

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GROUPS. WHENEVER WE WERE TRYING TO FIND SOME DIFFERENT PLACE E PRISONER. AT THE END OF THE DAY, THEY HAD A CAPACITY AND THE ABILITY TO PROVIDE FLIRTATION ON BASIC MEDICAL SERVICES AND CONFIRMATION MEDICATIONS THAT ARE REQUIRED BY THE STATE AT A RATE THAT IS OUTSOURCED GARDENING AND GUARANTEEING THE COURT A PERIOD OF TIME.

ONLY NOT THAT WE'RE GONNA NEED IS THAT IN WHICH FOR THE AND I WOULD JUST AS THEY GET THIS THING DONE AT THE END OF THE DAY. THIS IS PROBABLY GONNA BE ONE OF THE YOU KNOW, IF I'M NOT HERE IN THREE MONTHS.

IF I GOT HERE IN THREE OR FIVE YEARS.

THIS IS AN ISSUE FOR US AS A COURT HAS TRIED TO DEAL WITH.

ALMOST ON A MONTHLY BASIS. THIS DISH AT LEAST RESOLVED.

FOR A GIVEN PERIOD OF TIME. UNTIL WE CAN DECIDE HAPPEN WITH OUR FACILITY HERE. AND IF WE IF AND WHEN WE HAVE TO EXPAND THE FACILITY IN HAYS COUNTY WITH THE GROWTH THAT WE

HAVE. >> THANK YOU COMMISSIONER.

>> I JUST HAVE ONE QUESTION FOR YOU.

>> THE BEST WAY POSSIBLE. DETERMINE WHAT OUR INMATE PRICE IS HERE IN HOUSE SO WE CAN GET THE ANSWER.> AT LEAST A BALLPARK. AT LEAST A BALLPARK.

IF WE CAN HAVE A CHANCE IN A BALLPARK YOU CAN SAY THIS.

COMMISSIONER ANGLES B AND COMMISSIONER SHALL HAS DONE A MAGNIFICENT JOB OF HAVING TO MOVE THE NEEDLE.

I AGREE WITH YOU 100 PERCENT COMMISSION UP OR GIVE COMPLEMENT TO THE MOST PERFECTLY.

THEY HAVE DONE A MAGNIFICENT JOB.

AND I WILL SAY IN ANY CIRCLE AND EVERY CIRCLE ÃTHIS EVERY TIME. THANK YOU COMMISSIONER SHALL, THANK YOU ANGLES BEAT. I KNOW THAT YOU HAVE TAKEN A BEATING AND GONE UP AGAINST OLD THOUGHT PROCESSES AND SYSTEMS. AND I HAVE HIGH HOPES AND HIGH FAITH IN THE WORK THAT YOU HAVE DONE. I BELIEVE WHOLEHEARTEDLY THAT ALL THESE STRIDES. ALL THE COURTS HAVE DONE TO MOVE THE JUSTICE SYSTEM INTO A SPACE THAT HAS MORE UNITY, MORE, MODERATE, MORE EFFICIENCIES.

YOU FILL IN THE BLANK. MORE OF.

YES AND. THIS IS ALL BECAUSE OF YOU GUYS. AND I HAVE FAITH THAT AS THIS THING UNFOLDS AND OTHER COURSE STAND IN LINE.

THIS HAS JUST BEEN AWARDED TO OUR COUNTY.

BELIEVE THAT WE HAVE A BRIGHT FUTURE AHEAD WHEN IT COMES TO OUTSOURCING WITH INMATES.

AND I KNOW YOU HAVE DONE THE LEGWORK.

THERE WILL BE MANY STORIES THAT WILL NOT GET TOLD BECAUSE THE FOLKS DO NOT KNOW WHAT YOU DID BEHIND CLOSED DOORS.

THERE IS MUCH OF IT DONE. AND SO, TO THINK THAT I AM GOING TO SUPPORT A CONTRACT THAT IS GOING TO GIVE $10,000 A DAY TO A PRIVATE ORGANIZATION. OR $3.650 MILLION A YEAR.

GUARANTEED OF OUR TAXPAYER DOLLARS.

I WOULD THINK THAT IS IN PART SAYING I DON'T HAVE FAITH IN THE WORK THAT YOU GUYS HAVE TAKEN OVER THE HEAD ON AND OVER. YOU GUYS HAVE MOVED THE NEEDLE WAY TOO FAR AND WAY TOO BEAUTIFULLY FOR OUR COMMUNITY FOR RESIDENTS TO BELIEVE THAT THAT IS THE FUTURE THAT WE ARE BOUND TO. I'M SORRY.

PRAISE YOU GUYS WAY TOO MUCH TO ACCEPT THIS.

VICKI, DID I GIVE YOU ENOUGH TIME? THAT'S OKAY.HAT IS OKAY. NO PROBLEM.

>> I ANSWER A COUPLE QUESTIONS PER.

>> IT WAS JUST A BALLPARK. I KNOW IT'S COMPLICATED.

BUT THAT IS OKAY. >> IT IS.

[INDISCERNIBLE] >> OKAY.

[INDISCERNIBLE] >> OKAY.

THANK YOU. YES MA'AM AND COMMISSIONER?

>> CHIEF, I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY IF WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS CONTRACT. YOU ARE ÃÃARE YOU ALSO LETTING GO OF OTHER FACILITIES THAT YOU ARE CURRENTLY HOUSING INMATES IN? I MEAN, IS ONE OF THE IDEAS

JUSTICE. >> THAT IS WHAT THE GOAL IS

PRETTY. >> YES.

>> THIS WILL BE THE FIRST CHOICE TO SEND.

>> WE WILL DEFINITELY FILL THEM UP.

BUT WE WILL ALSO KEEP OTHER COUNTIES SUCH AS CARMEL AND GUADALUPE I AND THE ONES THAT ARE CLOSE.

AS WE GET MORE INMATES BACK ÃÃ THE FURTHEST COUNTY, SUCH AS RED RIVER AND MAVERICK COUNTY BOTH NORTH AND SOUTH ÃÃTHOSE WILL BE THE FIRST ONES TO PULL INMATES AWAY FROM.

AND MOVE FORWARD AND CLOSER TO HEAR.

>> IF THAT ANSWERS YOUR QUESTION.

>> IT DOES. AND THEN SECONDLY THIS MIGHT BE FOR JORDAN. A TERMINATION CLOSE JUSTICE FOR YOU MIGHT BE ÃÃIS MY UNDERSTANDING ÃÃOR SOME CONCERNS THERE. BUT EXPLAIN WHAT KIND OF THE TERMINATION CLAUSE.ECAUSE Ã ÃGO AHEAD.

>> WE HAVE GOTTEN A FEW DIFFERENT ONES.

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DEPENDING ON CIRCUMSTANCES. WE HAVE GOT OUR TYPICAL JUSTICE WE REFER TO AS A BUDGET OUT CLOSE.

THAT MEANS IF ANY YEAR WE DON'T HAVE SUFFICIENT REVENUES TO FUND CERTAIN CONTRACTS AND THE COMMISSIONERS COURT DOESN'T HAVE THE MONEY TO FILE CERTAIN CONTRACTS THERE.

THERE IS SOME ABILITY TO GET OUT OF CONTRACTS FOR THAT REASON. WE EITHER PUT THAT OR SOME SORT OF REALLY SHORT DETERMINATION CLOSES AS THEY HOLD OUR CONTRACTS. THAT ONE IS IN HERE.

THERE IS ALSO DETERMINATION FOR THE IF THERE IS SOME SORT OF DEFAULT ON OUR SIDE AND WE CANNOT CURE IT WITHIN 30 DAYS.

WE HAVE GOT THAT OPTION IN THERE.

WE ALSO HAVE ÃÃI CAN TELL YOU THE OTHER OPTIONS IN HERE TOO.

AND THOSE RENEWAL PERIOD'S ARE OPTIONAL RENEWAL PERIOD.

AFTER THE FIRST THREE YEARS. WE HAVE GOTTEN ÃÃBRINGING UP, I CAN TELL YOU ANY OTHER WAY THAT WE HAVE.

IN THE EVENT OF ANY SORT OF TERMINATION, THERE IS A PROVISION IN THE AGREEMENT WHERE THEY ÃÃFOR ABOUT A MONTH WILL HELP US TRANSITION ANY INMATES THAT WE DO HAVE THERE. TWO OTHER APPROPRIATE HOUSING.

THERE IS A PERIOD IN WHICH THEY WILL HELP US WITH ANY TRANSITION. ABOUT A MONTH LONG I THINK THE TWO TERMINATION OPTIONS THAT I'VE LISTED ARE YOUR TWO MAIN ONES. WITH THE ADDITION OF THE RENEWALS BEING OPTIONAL. ONLY.

>> THAT IS IMPORTANT BECAUSE I KNOW THAT AT ONE POINT, THERE MAY NOT OF BEEN THE TERMINATION CLOSE OR ONE THAT YOU KNOW, THEY WERE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT AND SO, THANK YOU FOR THE WORK ON THAT. I THINK THAT IT'S IMPORTANT

THAT WE HAVE IT. >> OF COURSE.

WE WENT BACK-AND-FORTH ON A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT OPTIONS LIKE LANGUAGE AND BASED ON EACH PARTY TRYING TO DO THEIR BEST TO GUARANTEE WHAT WORKS BEST FOR THEM.

BUT, WE INCLUDE THE SORT OF TERMINATION PROVISION THAT WE WOULD HAVE IN ANY OF OUR OTHER CONTRACTS.

FOR THE BUDGET OUT AND THEN BREACHED WITH THE ÃÃ30 DAY OPTION TO CARE. IF THEY CANNOT CURE THAT ÃÃ THEN WE CAN GET ON IT RIGHT AWAY.

>> WHAT ABOUT THEIR ABILITY TO TERMINATE?

>> THEIR ABILITY TO TERMINATE Ã ÃTHEY HAVE A 60 DAY THAT'S JUST ME GO BACK AND DOUBLE CHECK.

'M FINDING. IT'S EITHER A 30 DAY OR A 60 DAY. I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT EXACTLY WHICH ONE IT IS FOR YOU.

BUCKS BUT IT'S ONE OF THE CONTRACTS THAT THEY JUST CANNOT

SEND THEM ALL BACK AT ONCE? >> RIGHT.

YES, THEY WOULD HAVE TO HELP US WITHOUT THE TRANSITION.

AT LEAST FOR A MONTH AS WELL. ABOUT A MONTH.

>>. >> I THINK YOU DID A REALLY GOOD JOB NEGOTIATING THE CONTRACT.

$95 A DAY WHEN YOU CONSIDER TRANSPORTATION AND MEDICINE.

LIKE VICKI SAID, IT'S WELL OVER $100 A DAY TO KEEP THEM HERE.

SO, GIVING THEM TRANSPORTATION. THAT WAS VERY WELL DONE PER.

>> TRANSPORTATION COSTS WERE HUGE.

>> I'M SORRY. >> AND THEN CHIEF, I GUESS YOU ARE PRETTY CONFIDENT. EVEN WHEN HE OPENED THE JOE AND WE ARE STAFF ÃÃWE'RE GONNA HAVE OVER 100 PRISONERS THAT

NEED TO BE HELD SOMEWHERE ELSE. >> IF YOU LOOK AT OUR EXISTING INMATE POPULATION RATE ÃÃFOR THE PAST COUPLE OF YEARS.

THAT WILL DEFINITELY PUT US WELL OVER 100 STILL BEING

OUTSOURCED. >> AND AGAIN, EVEN THOUGH IT'S ÃÃIT'S STILL NOT THE RIGHT THING TO DO FOR THE FAMILY AND ATTORNEYS TO MAKE THEM TRAVEL. COST WISE, THE VIRTUOUS RIGHT NOW. AND AGAIN, I DON'T KNOW WE CAN NEVER TURN DOWN ONE OF THESE CONTRACTS THAT SOMEBODY IS WILLING TO TAKE OUR PRISONERS. BECAUSE I TOLD YOU THIS BEFORE.

IF EVERYBODY WE HAD OUTSOURCED HAPPINESS JOHNSON SAID IF THEY COME GET THEM TODAY ÃÃWE WOULD HAVE TO GO AND GET THEM AND WE WOULD HAVE NO PLAN FOR THAT.

>> YES. WE DO NOT ÃÃNO WE DON'T.

>> NO. AND THAT IS WHAT SCARES ME IN THE LONG RUN. CUSTOMÁ JUDGE, I ONE QUESTION AND IT WILL BE IN YOUR REPORT FROM THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT.

WHAT IS OUR AVERAGE DAILY RATE THIS WEEK?

>> AVERAGE DAILY RATE? >> $11,789 TODAY.

>> THAT WAS MY QUESTION. WE PAID OVER $11,000 TODAY.E HAD DAYS WHERE WHAT WAS OUR TOTAL?R AVERAGE HIGHEST

TOTAL? >> WE PAID OVER 15 OR 16,000 A

DAY. >> AND SO, IN LOOKING AT THAT.

AS WE GROW ÃÃWITHOUT GROWING OUR CURRENT FACILITY, THAT NUMBER IS GOING TO GO UP. AND I DON'T THINK THAT THERE IS A REALIZATION ORDER MAY NOT BE REALIZATION IN THE GENERAL

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PUBLIC AND WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT TODAY IS NOT ADDING $10,000 A DAY. TO THAT $15,000.

WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT MAKING THIS $25,000 A DAY.

THIS WILL CUT INTO THAT NUMBER THAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT.

AND SO, I CAN TELL YOU THAT AT THE END OF THE DAY, AGAIN, I HAVE NOT SPOKEN TO ANYONE AT THE SO.

I'M NOT SPOKEN ANYONE THAT OUR JUDICIAL SYSTEM HERE ABOUT THIS. THAT WERE NOT EXCITED ABOUT THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE THESE PRISONERS CONSOLIDATED IN ONE PLACE. AND HAD THE ABILITY FOR THEM TO BE TRANSPORTED TWICE WEEK BACK-AND-FORTH TO OUR COUNTY.

THAT IS JUST HUGE FOR US. SO, I ÃÃDEFINITELY UNSUPPORTIVE OR I WOULD NOT PUT ON THE AGENDA.

AND I LOOK FORWARD TO A VOTE. >> JORDAN, 60 DAYS TO CANCEL IS WHAT YOU THOUGHT APPROXIMATELY? BUT WHAT IS THERE OPTION ON HOW THEY CAN CANCEL? I APPARENTLY NEED TO LEARN HOW

TO WORK THESE MUCH BETTER. >> THERE IS A 30 DAY TERMINATION NOTICE AND THEN WITH THE 30 DAY TRANSITION

PERIOD AS WELL. >> OKAY SO, WHAT IS A REASON

THAT THEY COULD FIRE US? >> THAT THEY COULD NOT OFFER

ANY BEDS TO US? >> WHAT IS THE TRIGGER TO TERMINATE A CONTRACT FROM THEIR END?

>> THEY CAN TRIGGER THEIR 30 DAY TERMINATION IF THEY DO NOT HAVE SPACE FOR INMATES. OR IF THEY DO NOT HAVE ÃÃIF THEY DO NOT HAVE ANY STAFF. THOSE KIND OF THINGS.

>> COVID SHUTDOWNS.> WITHOUT US DOING ANYTHING, THEY COULD SAY SORRY, WE ARE NOT TO TAKE YOURS ANYMORE BECAUSE WE FILED FOR EXAMPLE, IN MY EXAMPLE, YOU COULD SAY YES OR NO.

WE ARE NO LONGER TAKING YOUR INMATES BECAUSE WE FOUND ANOTHER COUNTIES CAN GIVE US MORE.

WE'RE GONNA GO AHEAD AND JUMP OVER TO THEIRS AND THERE IS NO RECORD FOR US EXCEPT TO SAY OKAY. RIGHT?

>> IF THEY CHOSE TO TAKE ON ANOTHER COUNTY OVER OUR INMATES. IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING?

>> FOR A HIGHER PER-PERSON PRICE.

>> I'M PRETTY SURE EVERYONE THAT THEY ARE HOUSING IS PAID THINK THE EXACT SAME PRICE. TECHNICALLY ÃÃTHAT COULD NOT

HAPPEN, YES. >> EXACTLY, YES.

SO, THEY HAVE ÃÃAS A PRIVATE BUSINESS ÃÃTHEY HAVE CREATED A SETTING WHERE WE ARE GUARANTEEING THEM $3,650,000 A YEAR. AND I KNOW THAT THE $10,000 A DAY ARE GOING TO COME OUT OF TODAY'S INMATES.

BUT, WE ARE GUARANTEEING THEM IN THE FUTURE FOR YEARS TO COME. AND WE'RE TELLING THEM THAT YOU ARE GOING TO MAKE AT LEAST THIS MUCH MONEY FROM HAYS COUNTY.

THREE OR ALMOST $4 MILLION. NO MATTER WHAT WE DO AS A COUNTY TO MANAGE IT DIFFERENTLY.

IN OUR JUDICIAL SYSTEM AND ALL THE DIFFERENT AVENUES.

WE ARE GUARANTEEING 3.4 569 DOLLARS AND WE ARE BOUND TO THIS UNLESS THERE'S SOME REALLY CRAZY TOUGH SITUATIONS I CAN GET US OUT OF IT. BUT ON THEIR AND JUST AS WE HAVE JUST GIVEN THEM A GOOD FLOOR TO PROPEL FROM TO SELL THE BIDS FOR MORE IN THE FUTURE AND THEY CAN KICK US OUT WHENEVER THEY WANT. I DON'T THINK THAT IS A GOOD

CONTRACT. >> JUDGE, YOU'VE BEEN HERE FOR THREE AND HALF YEARS JUST LIKE ME.

AND YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE FIRST ISSUES THAT YOU BROUGHT UP WHEN YOU GOT IN THE OFFICE WAS JAIL OUTSOURCING.

IT WAS A VERY BIG AND IMPORTANT ISSUE FOR YOU AT THAT POINT.

THAT SAME PROVISIONS THAT YOU JUST TALKED ABOUT OUR EVERY CONTRACT THAT WE HAVE WITH EVERY OTHER COUNTY.

IF COME ALL COUNTY GOT OFFERED HUNDRED AND $20 TODAY ÃÃWE WOULD GET A CALL THIS AFTERNOON TO SAY COME PICK UP ALL THE PRISONERS BECAUSE SOMEBODY ELSE IS GONNA PAY US MORE.

>> IT IS A PRIVATE SECTOR. >> CAN THINK WE ARE WORKING WITH HASKELL COUNTY IN THIS SITUATION.

I MEAN, THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS THAT ÃÃMAYBE HIM TAKING THIS A LITTLE BIT PERSONALLY HERE.

BUT A MONTH AGO ÃÃOF OUR COURT, THE MEMBERS OF THIS COURT AND YOU INCLUDED ASKED THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT AND MYSELF TO LOOK INTO THE OPTION OF THESE PRIVATE COMPANIES.

YOU ARE PART OF THAT CONVERSATION AND YOU ACTUALLY SAID HEY, THAT IS A GOOD IDEA. WHY DON'T YOU GO AHEAD AND DO

THAT. >> LET ME FINISH.

WITHIN 45 DAYS ÃTHIS WE WERE ABLE TO SIT DOWN WITH MULTIPLE COMPANIES AND FIND OUT WHAT THE AVAILABILITY WAS.

FIND OUT WHAT THE COST STRUCTURE WAS AND IF AND WHERE THERE WOULD BE BEDS IN THE STATE.

AND I APPLAUD OUR CASH JUST LIKE YOU SAID, OUR GENERAL

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COUNSEL'S OFFICE AND SHERIFF'S OFFICE BECOMING A NEGOTIATING OPTION FOR US. WE'VE NEVER HAD BEFORE.

WE'VE BEEN HERE FOR THREE AND HALF YEARS JUDGE.

I HAVE NOT SEEN YOU BRING AN OPTION TO THE COURT.

AT THIS POINT, I AM JUST GLAD THAT WE HAVE AN OPTION TO CONSIDER AND I WOULD ASK MY COLLEAGUES TO DECIDE WHETHER OR NOT THEY WOULD BE WILLING TO SUPPORT IT.

IF THEY DON'T, THAT IS FINE. IT WAS A WASTED EFFORT.

BUT, AT THIS POINT, ALL FOUR OF US REPRESENT OCEANS OF THIS COUNTY THAT BELIEVE THAT WE HAVE A PROBLEM AND WE ARE JUST AS YOU LIKE TO SAY THAT YOU SERVE THE WHOLE COUNTY, WE SERVED OUR PORTION OF THE COUNTY AND THE COUNTY AS A WHOLE. AND EACH ONE OF US IS GONNA HAVE TO GO HOME AND LIVE WITH WHATEVER DECISION THEY MADE.

ND I'M WILLING TO DO THAT. AND I THINK MY COLLEAGUES ARE

AS WELL. >> VERY GOOD.

>> I JUST WANT TO SAY AND THANK YOU SIR.

I DO BELIEVE THAT THIS CONTRACT IS NOT WRITTEN FAIR.

I BELIEVE THEY CAN KICK US OUT QUICKER THAN WE CAN GET OUT.

THAT IS MY FINAL COMMENT. IF THERE'S NOTHING ELSE COULD.

>> I PLENTY. >> JORDAN? JUST WANT TO GIVE

JORDAN A CHANCE TO REPLY. >> I DON'T REALLY.

>> ANY TERMINATION WOULD HAVE TO TAKE PLACE BY HASKELL COUNTY AS WELL. I JUST WANT TO NOTE THAT.

>> COMMISSIONER SHALL?> I MAY HAVE TO OFFER BUDGET TO TAKE A BREAK. BECAUSE I CANNOT EVEN KEEP TRACK OF EVERYTHING IN MY HEAD IN THE COMMENTS THAT THEY NEEDED TO ADDRESS. FIRST OF ALL, THE MARKET IS DIFFERENT TODAY. THEN IT WAS THREE YEARS AGO OR FIVE YEARS AGO. SIX OR SEVEN YEARS AGO.

THAT IS ONE OF THE PROBLEMS THAT I SEE.

IS ALL OF THOSE AGREEMENTS THAT WE HAVE ACROSS THE STATE OF TEXAS ÃJUST THE EIGHT DIFFERENT FACILITIES TODAY JUST AS WE HAVE SOMEBODY AND BESIDES OUR HOME ACROSS TEXAS.

AS FAR AWAY AS THE RED RIVER AND AS FAR AWAY AS THE BORDER WITH MEXICO. ALL THOSE AGREEMENTS ÃÃTHEY CAN CALL US RIGHT NOW. SENSEI PICK EVERYBODY UP.

AND SO THIS IS RIGHT NOW, WHEN WE WERE FIRST ENTERING IN THESE AGREEMENTS AND I THOUGHT THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE WAS BEING AS PRODUCTIVE AS THEY COULD FOR THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE IS TASKED WITH HOLDING THESE INDIVIDUALS BASED UPON WHAT THEY ARE TOLD TO DO. THEY ARE NOT MAKING DECISIONS.

AS A WHOLE. THEY ARE SAYING THAT YOU MUST SAFELY HOUSE THESE INDIVIDUALS. BY STATE LAW.

PROACTIVELY, THEY WERE GOING OUT AND APPROACHING COUNTIES AS WE WERE RUNNING INTO ISSUES WITH SPACE.

AND ABOUT TO ENTER INTO THE PROJECT SOON TO BE FINISHED WITH. AND AT FIRST JUST AS WE DID NOT REALLY NEED THAT MANY. HAVING ONE OR TWO AGREEMENTS.

THERE WAS A COUPLE THAT WOULD HOUSE THE MAJORITY OF THEM.

AND THAT WAS SORT OF THE MARKET AND THOSE RATES BACK THEN WERE FAIRLY LOW. I WOULD SAY MUCH LESS.

JUST FINANCIAL. FORGET EVERYTHING FOR THERE IS A LOT OF OTHER COSTS WITH THIS. FINANCIAL COSTS.

MUCH LESS OF WHAT IT WOULD COST TO HOUSE AN INMATE.

KEEP GOING THIS NUMBER AROUND $100 OR HUNDRED AND $20 A DAY.

AND THE REASON I SAY THAT IS BECAUSE IT'S COGNITIVE.

WE FIGURING FOR OVERHEAD. AS SUCH AS THE OFFICES AND ELECTRICITY. THE FRUIT THAT GOES DIRECTLY INTO THE INDIVIDUALS THAT WERE HOUSING.

IT'S ALL THESE OTHER ADMINISTRATIVE COSTS.

SUPERVISORY COSTS AND SUPPORT COSTS.

THE AUDITOR'S OFFICE SPENDS A GREAT DEAL OF TIME.

HOW MUCH OF THE COSTS TO ASSOCIATE WITH GEL OPERATIONS.

JUST WITH THE OFFICE ALONE. JUST THOSE COSTS SPREAD UP AND THAT IS WHY THAT NUMBER VARIES WHEN THEY WERE THE AUDITOR THE LAST TIME I REMEMBER. THE HIM MONEY SOLD BUT THROUGH IN-DEPTH AND IT WAS HARD. I WAS THROWN AROUND ABOUT HUNDRED AND 20. WHEN YOU FIGURE AND HEALTHCARE AND THERE ARE SOME YEARS THAT FIGURE MIGHT BE LESS.

HE DID HAVE MAJOR HEALTHCARE COSTS PER YEAR WERE SEVERAL INMATES NEXT ON HEALTHCARE COSTS.

THEREFORE THAT NUMBER WOULD BE SKEWED.

SELECT THE CALL AT ABOUT $120. AND PEOPLE WOULD SAY ONE ACT AS A COST OF HAYS COUNTY HUNDRED AND $20 A DAY TO HAS AN INMATE WHEN YOU GOT CONTRACTS FOR $50 A DAY? I LIKE MEN, WHAT ARE YOU DOING? E JUST GOLDPLATED WHATEVER IN JAIL AND STUFF LIKE THAT. LIKE NO, THAT IS OUR ACTUAL COST. COLLECTIVE BARGAINING THIS TIME OF RENT. THE SALARIES OF OUR CORRECTIONS OFFICERS JUST FROM CEOS ALL THE WAY UP TO THE TENETS THAT WERE IN THE JAIL. HIS BELOW MARKET.

IT'S NOT THAT WE ARE OVERPAYING.

INDIVIDUALS PRODUCE THAT THE MARKET PROVES.

IT'S NOT BEEN THE CASE IN THE HISTORY.

IT'S JUST THAT IS THE ACTUAL COST.

CAN YOU DO EVERYTHING THAT YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO DO, THAT IS WHAT THE COST. THE OTHER REASON THESE FACILITIES ARE OFFERING SUCH A LOW RATE IS BECAUSE THEY HAD EMPTY BEDS FOR THEIR PAYING OVERHEAD FOR.

THEY'RE PROBABLY PAYING DEBT SERVICE ON THEM.

WE CAN JUST RECOUP SOME COSTS FOR THIS.

IT'S A GOOD DEAL FINANCIALLY FOR THEM.

SO, FOR YEARS, WE WERE SORT OF BENEFITING FROM JUST THE

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MARKET. THAT HAD NOT A HIRING PROBLEM FOR CORRECTIONS OFFICERS AT THE TIME.

AND A BUNCH OF EMPTY BEDS ACROSS TEXAS.

MANY OF THEM VERY CLOSE TO US. THAT THIS DESCRIPTION THE MARKET CHANGE. AND LABOR HAS CHANGED PROBABLY THE GREATEST WAY IS WE ARE SAYING THE SAME THING ACROSS THE STATE THAT WE HAVE TRIED TO HIRE CORRECTIONS OFFICERS.

IS THAT CORRECT CHIEF? >> YES SIR.

TO YOUR POINT, I PULLED OUR STAFFING STATS AND COMPARE THEM TO OUR INMATE NUMBERS FOR THE PAST FIVE YEARS.

GENERALLY FIRST OF EACH YEAR. 017.

WHO WERE ROUGHLY 95 PERCENT FULLY STAFFED.

WITH 400 INMATES. AND THEN WE SAW THE HUGE DROP IN 2020. TODAY JUSTICE OR AS OF THIS GENERALLY FIRST TEST IS TO WELL OVER 600 INMATES 61 PERCENT STAFF. IT'S NOT JUST US OR NOT, PEOPLE DON'T WANT TO WORK. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE ISSUE IS.

WE ARE NOT GETTING APPLICANTS. HIS WEEK.

HAD FIVE INTERVIEWS FOR NEW CORRECTIONS OFFICERS.

NONE OF THEM SHOWED UP. WE HAD ZERO PEOPLE COME.

THIS IS THE FIRST TIME THAT HAS HAPPENED.

EXPERIENCING WAYS. WE'VE SEEN INFLATION.

AND WE SEE WAGE INFLATION.ND THAT IS OBVIOUSLY HITTING AS WE ARE TRYING TO ADDRESS THE COLLECTIVE BARGAINING.

THINK WE HAVE AND WILL BRING TO THE DECOR THAT WILL BE SUPPORTED AND WILL MAKE A DIFFERENCE FOR THAT.

I DON'T KNOW THAT MEANS MAGICALLY RIGHT THAT WE WILL FEEL AN UNPLEASANT TRAINING GET EVERYBODY ON BOARD AND ALL THE THINGS THAT ARE REQUIRED TO RUN A SAFE FACILITY.

THE MARKET HAS CHANGED.ND WHEN WE HIT THIS SUMMER AND WE HAD OVER 700 INMATES ÃÃWE WERE FOR THE MOST PART MAXED OUT. EVERYWHERE THAT WE WERE TAKING INMATES. SHERIFF'S OFFICE IS GOING WHAT HAPPENS IF THE COUNTY COMES IN AND SAYS YOU GO TO CUMBRIA.

WE PHYSICALLY HAVE NO OPTIONS. SO, PROACTIVE OVER THE YEARS JUSTICE WE BUILT PRETTY GOOD READY OF CONTRACTS THAT GIVES US FLEXIBILITY TO SAY, BECAUSE THE NETWORK JEALOUS THINGS.

TELLING US SUMMARY OF. DON'T GET ANOTHER ONE.

>> THIS WAY. THAT INITIALLY WAS A PRACTICE WHERE WE TOSSED THE COMPLEX OF IT.

WE TAKE ANOTHER ONE DOWN HERE. SARPY ACCOUNT DID NOT INCREASE.

THEY ARE SAYING NO, YOU PICK THIS ONE UP.

OR WHAT HAS HAPPENED IN THE PAST ÃÃCOME GET ALL 30 OF THEM. NOW WE ARE SCRAMBLING AND THAT HAS HAPPENED. SO, THE BUILDING THAT WERE READY AND AGAIN IN A MARKET WHERE THERE ARE EMPTY BEDS AND LABOR ÃÃHAS CHANGED AND CONAWAY TO THE POINT WHERE WE ARE NOW SITTING HERE GOING OKAY.

REDOUND TO THE 650 RANGE. WE ARE UP OVER 700 AND I WILL DIGRESS A LITTLE BIT. WHAT IS THE APPROPRIATE NUMBER? ESS. I MEAN JUSTICE I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT NUMBER IS CRIME RATES AND INCARCERATION RATES.

THEY VARY. >> POPULATION.

AND AGAIN, IF YOU VISIT POPULATION TEST AS WE ARE

ACTUALLY. >> WE'RE DOING REALLY WELL.

BECAUSE I LOOK AT EVERY DAY. AND I SAY THIS EVERY TIME I TALK ABOUT THIS. WE HAD TWO DAYS OF LAST WEEK WERE 50 PERCENT OF THOSE ARRESTED AND ON THE PEE DEE'S THAT MADE ARRESTED THE SHOW'S OFFICE WERE NOT HAYS TOWN RESIDENTS. THAT IS DIFFERENT THAN MANY COUNTIES. A USE COUNTY.

FOR EVERY DRIVE THROUGH BRAZOS COUNTY.

YOU KNOW FOOTBALL GAME AND THEN THE LIMITED THAT'S ABOUT THE ONLY REASON TOGETHER. SO, THEY WANT BY 35.

IT'LL HELP ALL THESE ISSUES PUT THEM OFF TOO.

THEY ARE NOT ANCHORED BY THREE MAJOR METROPOLITAN AREAS THAT ALONG WITH THE COME WITH ACTIVITIES THAT HAPPEN IN THOSE PLACES. SO, I THINK YES.

I ACTUALLY THINK THAT THERE HAS BEEN SOME GOOD THINGS DONE.

IF IT WASN'T FOR THOSE THINGS Ã ÃWE MAY NOT HAVE ONLY 646 IN OUR CUSTODY TODAY. WE MIGHT HAVE 800 AND YOU PINPOINT WHAT THAT IS. IT'S HARD TO PINPOINT EXCEPT THERE BEEN A LOT OF THINGS IMPLEMENTED OVER YEARS DEPARTMENTS OF THE COUNTY. WHETHER IT'S JUDICIAL.

THINGS IMPLEMENTED BY THIS COURT TO FIND THINGS.

DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE. CORES AND CLERKS AND OFFICES TO TRY AND MAKE THINGS MORE EFFICIENT.

WE HAVE SEEN I BELIEVE IN. IT'S HARD TO SPEND MONEY AND OF THOSE THINGS. IT'S HARD TO IDENTIFY WHAT THOSE THINGS ARE. YOU CANNOT UNPLUG AND THEN LOOK AT THE 800 PEOPLE. HE SPENT THOSE DOLLARS FOR A PURPOSE. WE DID THE THOUGHT THAT THEY WOULD DO GOOD.HERE IS REASON TO BELIEVE THAT THEY WOULD BENEFIT THIS COUNTY. WHAT WE'RE PUTTING INTO IT.

I THINK WE HAVE SEEN THAT. I THINK WE HAVE EFFICIENCIES.

WE ADDED COURTS. WE ARE GETTING THINGS THROUGH

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THE SYSTEM. IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT THERE'S NOT MORE TO DO. OF COURSE THERE IS MORE TO DO AND I THINK WE ALL AGREE THAT WE MUST CONTINUALLY TRY TO IMPROVE. BUT THE NUMBER IS JUSTICE I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS. AND WHAT IS APPROPRIATE IS THAT IT 600 ÃÃIS THAT TOO MUCH? TOO FEW, SHOULD BE 300 OR 100? WERE THE STUDIES THAT WERE DONE WITH A JEALOUS PLAN.

THE CAYMAN ALL OVER. I THINK THE STATE TOTALS 1200.

TO BUILD A GEL FOR 1200 PEOPLE. AND THAT WAS FIVE YEARS AGO.

> AT LEAST. >> MORE THAN 500.

>> WE TRY TO DO SOMETHING THAT WE COULD GROW INTO WITHOUT HAVING TO PUT ALL THAT MONEY IN PLACE AT ONCE.

SO, WE CAN HOLD 600 IF WE ARE FULLY OPERATIONAL.

AS THE CHIEF WAS EXPLAINING. THAT IS NOT WHERE WE ARE NOW.

ETTING INTO THE CONTRACT ÃÃ JUDGE, YOU ARE RIGHT.

IT'S IN THE BENEFIT OF THE OPERATOR.

THEY ALL ARE. RIGHT NOW.

THIS WILL ACTUALLY AT LEAST GIVES US FOR THE MOST PART, 60 DAYS TO TRANSITION OUT. IF THEY WERE TO TERMINATE AND GIVE US OUR 30 DAY NOTICE, WE KNOW THAT WE HAVE 30 DAYS.

THEY HAVE PLAN B. AND 30 MORE DAYS TO TRANSITION OUT.

AS BETTER THAN BEEN CALLING US AND SAYING GUYS ÃÃI A.M.

TOMORROW JUSTICE, ALL OF YOUR FOLKS OUT OF HERE.

THAT IS A BENEFIT. CREDIT GIVEN US THIS BENEFIT? I THINK THERE IS PROBABLY LINE OF PEOPLE WILLING TO TAKE THIS TYPE OF AGREEMENT. THAT IS WHERE THIS COMES IN.

WHAT SHOULD WE AGREE TO OR NOT AGREE TO? IF WE THOUGHT THAT SIX MONTHS FROM NOW THAT WE WERE GONNA BE OUTSOURCING ONLY 40 INMATES. THEN I WOULD SAY THIS PROBABLY IS NOT A VERY GOOD ARRANGEMENT. WE ARE LIKELY TO BE PAYING FOR BIDS THAT WE ARE NOT EVEN UTILIZING.

I THINK EVERYONE IS LOOKING AT THE SYSTEM THIS SIGN IS THAT IS HIGHLY UNLIKELY. TODAY, WE'RE OUTSOURCING TO EIGHT COUNTIES. WE HAVE 171 OUTSOURCED.

UNDER THE CHIEF MENTIONED, COUNTY ÃÃYOU WANT TO KEEP THEM. VERY THANKFUL FOR, COUNTY.

VERY APPRECIATIVE OF THE PARTNERSHIP THAT WE HAVE HAD HERE. OBVIOUSLY IT'S MUCH EASIER TO GET PEOPLE IN FROM THERE. AND WE WOULD CONTINUE AND WHAT ABILITIES COME OUT. THOSE THAT REST AND ARE FURTHER AWAY, WE WOULD LIKE TO GET AWAY FROM THEM.

THE PROCESS IS HAVING A BENEFIT WHERE WE ARE HAVING ONE LOCATION WITH THE MAJORITY OF ALL OF OUR OUTSOURCED INMATES WITH TRANSPORTATION THAT WILL PROVIDE BETTER CRIMINAL JUSTICE BECAUSE OF THAT.

INANCIALLY ÃÃTHE MARKET IS CHANGING.

I THINK IT IS PROBABLY A FAIR PLOT PRICE CONSIDERING THE MARKET. FOR EFFICIENCY SAKE, IT'LL BE MUCH BETTER OFF FOR OUR SYSTEM TO HAVE AS MANY PEOPLE AS WE CAN IN ONE PLACE WITH TRANSPORTATION.

WILL DRIVER IN TEXAS AND SOMEONE WILL SEE HIM, YOU WILL PROBABLY FROM HIM. YOU'LL PROBABLY SEE ONE.

THAT HAS BEEN A HUMAN RESOURCE THIS DISH HUMAN RESOURCE PROBLEM. FINANCIAL PROBLEM WITH PAYING FOR FUEL VEHICLES. ALSO A RISK.

IT WAS TO THE OFFICERS. TAKE RISK TO THE INMATE.

RISK TO THE PUBLIC. AND A FINANCIAL RISK TO OUR TAXPAYERS. THAT TYPE OF A LIABILITY.

WE SAW SOMETHING HAPPENED WITH THE TRANSPORTATION OF A PRISONER FROM THE STATE OF TEXAS.

HE BUT JUST THE LIABILITY INVOLVED.VERY TIME YOU GET ON THE ROAD ÃÃYOU ARE OPEN UP A PROBLEM FOR US.

BECAUSE WE WANT TO MINIMIZE THAT RISK.ND I BELIEVE THAT WE RUN A SAFE FACILITY. AND I THINK WE ALL WOULD RATHER HAVE EVERYONE HERE IN THIS COUNTY THAT IS BETTER FOR THE WHOLE SYSTEM AND IT'S BETTER FOR TAXPAYERS.

IT'S BETTER FOR OUR EMPLOYEES BUT IT'S BETTER FOR CRIMINAL JUSTICE AS A WHOLE. UNFORTUNATELY, THAT IS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN. SO, WE ARE PRESENTED WITH AN OPPORTUNITY WE HAVE SOMEBODY THAT IS WILLING TO GUARANTEE US SOME SPACE. AND AGAIN JUDGE, YOU ARE RIGHT.

N THE GET OUT? YES FOR THE MOST PART IN THE 60S, WE WOULD HAVE TO BE FULLY OUT OF THAT PLACE.

IT IS THE CLOSEST THING THAT WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO FIND WORKING EVERYBODY TOGETHER AT WHAT SEEMS TO BE A MARKET RATE.

AND HAVE SOME GUARANTEE THAT THEY CANNOT JUST TELL US TOMORROW THAT IS ALL OPEN. I THINK THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE'VE ALL BEEN FEARFUL OF WHEN WE WERE IN THIS SUMMER.

WE WOULD LIKELY OVER SEVEN IN THIS TREND.

WE KNEW THAT. THERE'S A VERY NERVE-RACKING TIME.E TALKED ABOUT IN HERE WHEN YOU READ THE NUMBERS JUDGE. WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN? WHAT DID OUR STAFF DO? HE STARTED CALLING EVERY FACILITY THAT HAD OVER SOME EVENTS IN THE STATE OF TEXAS.

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THEY CALLED FACILITIES. NOT IN THE STATE OF TEXAS.

WHICH I YOU KNOW? AGAIN JUST AS PROACTIVELY JUST SAY THAT WE CANNOT JUST SIT HERE AND DO NOTHING.

AND ALL OF A SUDDEN THEY CAN ALL CALL US AND SAY COME PICK EVERYBODY UP. WHAT ARE WE GONNA DO? THERE ARE STANDARDS THAT WITH THE HOLABIRD THERE ARE LAWS THAT WE TAKE SERIOUS THOUGH. I DON'T WANT TO PROVE THIS THING. I NEVER WANTED TO APPROVE ONE OF THESE THINGS. AND I HOPE THAT THERE IS A DATE WITH THE COUNTY DOES NOT HAVE TO HAVE THESE.AND I HOPE THAT WHEREVER THAT POPULATION IS AT THAT DATE ÃÃI HOPE IT'S AS LOW AS POSSIBLE. I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS AND I KNOW THAT WE ARE CONTINUING TO WORK ON THESE THINGS.

WE ARE GOING TO A NEW DISTRICT JUDGE.THE COURTS ARE OPERATING. OUR AT CAPACITY.

THERE IS A LOT OF ACTIVITY GOING ON IN THIS COUNTY RIGHT NOW. AND IT IS TAKING A LOT OF HUMAN RESOURCES TO DO IT.ND I ALSO JUST WANT TO TOUCH ON AND THEN

I WILL SHUT UP. >> IT'S OKAY COMMISSIONER FOR.

>> THE OTHER PRETRIAL THAT COMMISSIONER SMITH MENTIONED, LOOK EVERYBODY THAT IS IN THE FACILITY.

THE OVERWHELMING MAJORITY ARE PRETRIAL.

THEY HAVE NOT BEEN CONVICTED. THEY WERE ASSUMED INNOCENT AT THAT POINT. THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE WERE ALL AS AMERICANS VERY PROUD TO HAVE THAT TYPE OF A RIGHT OF FREEDOM. I THINK THAT FOR THE PUBLIC TO IS TO UNDERSTAND THAT WHEN THE WORD PRETRIAL IS SAID ÃÃTHAT PARTICIPATE IN OUR CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM ONE WAY OR ANOTHER. THAT DOES NOT MEAN THAT THEY ARE READY FOR TRIAL. BECAUSE I DON'T THINK THAT WE WANT EVERYONE IN THE COUNTY TO THINK THAT WE HAVE GOT 646 WORKING THIS DISH 946 PEOPLE THAT ARE JUST WAITING FOR THE COURTROOM TO OPEN. THAT IS REALLY JUSTICE THAT IS NOT WHAT IS HAPPENING. THAT IS ALL THE EFFORTS THAT WE ARE TRYING TO DO TO PROVE THAT THIS IS TO GET THEM TO THAT POINT. THAT IS WHAT WE WANT TO DO.

GET THEM TO THE POINT WHERE ALL OF THE RIGHTS HAVE BEEN ACKNOWLEDGED AND YOU KNOW, THE RATES FOR THE BEST DEFENSE IN THE STATE HAS ALL THE INFORMATION THAT THEY NEED TO PROSECUTE PROPERLY.E WANT TO GET TO THAT POINT IN TIME.S SOON AS POSSIBLE IN A REASONABLE WAY.

SO, I WNT PEOPLE THINKING THAT WE AREN'T WAITING JUSTICE PERSONALLY TO SHOW UP AT THE GOVERNMENT CENTER TO OPEN THE DOORS AND WE CAN HAVE A TRIAL THERE.

THEY ARE IN ALL SORTS OF DIFFERENT TIMELINES OF THEIR PROCESS THROUGH THE SYSTEM. OR EVERYTHING THAT WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO DO IS GET INTO THAT PRETRIAL AS FAST AS WHAT I WOULD CALL JUST AS YOU ARE READY.

EVERYTHING IS READY. TO MAKE THE CASE FOR WE FOUND INNOCENT. PLEAD TO THIS OR WHATEVER THAT IS. WE WANT TO GET TO THAT POINT AND THAT IS WHAT WE'RE ALL TRYING TO WORK ON.

THE SYSTEM ÃJUST LIKE AS IT IS RUNNING AT CAPACITY.

WE ARE GOING TO MAX OUT THE SQUARE FOOTAGE OF COURTROOMS AND EVERYTHING ELSE WITH A NEW JUDGE.

WE'RE GONNA MAX OUT BAILIFFS AND CLERKS AND EVERYTHING ELSE PAID WE ARE GOING TO TEST TEST TODAY, ANY DATE YOU GO THERE Ã ÃFIND A PARKING SPOT OVER THERE.

AND THAT IS THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM.

THE MAJORITY OF THOSE INDIVIDUALS AND THAT BUILDING ARE THERE FOR THAT. COMING OUT OF THE PANDEMIC AND EVERYTHING, WE ARE OPERATING. IT'S JUST NOW THAT WE HAVE TO FINE-TUNE EVERY SINGLE THING THAT WE CAN FIND.

AND PART OF THAT IS TRANSPORTATION.

PART OF THAT SHUFFLING IS THAT INDIVIDUAL ROUND TO SEE THAT LAWYER AND GET THEM THEIR DAY IN COURT.

THAT IS THE PART THAT THIS PROVIDES US SOME CONSISTENCY OF DATE LOCATION. AND IF WE COUPLE THAT WITH SOMEBODY NEARBY ÃTHIS WEEKEND THEN MORE OFFICIALLY GET THESE INDIVIDUALS HERE WHEN THEY NEED TO GET HERE TO GET TO THAT POINT WITH THEIR LAWYER OR BEFORE JUDGES AND HEARINGS.

SO THEY CAN FINALLY GET TO THE POINT WHERE THEY TEST IS WHAT I WOULD CALL READY TO GO PRETRIAL.

>> YOU SAID IT RIGHT ON. JUST TWO THINGS THAT I'M GONNA HAVE IN THIS SITE. THE ONLY THING ABOUT THE OTHER COUNTIES SAYING COME GET YOUR INMATES.

I'M LESS CONCERNED WITH BECAUSE THOSE ARE NOT PRIVATE ORGANIZATIONS. THAT COULD HATE ÃTHIS BUSINESS IS BUSINESS. THAT COULD ÃÃIF THE MARKET CHANGES AND WHEN THE MARKET BECOMES TIGHT WHATEVER THE CASE MIGHT BE. BUT THEY SAY I HAD THIS VERY WEALTHY COUNTY OR WHATEVER. I JUST SOLD THOSE FOR HUNDRED AND $40 OF IT. NOW HAYS COUNTY TEST IS MORE LIKELY FROM A PRIVATE VENTURE FOR PROFIT ORGANIZATION VERSUS ANOTHER GOVERNMENT.ND COMMISSIONERS ÃDISH SHELL, HE SAID EXACTLY RIGHT.AVING THE CONCENTRATION OF FOLKS AND ONE SPACE IS OF HIGH VALUE. AND NOT HAVING EVERYTHING PRESENT IS EXACTLY EXACTLY RIGHT ON THE WHITES GOOD TO CONSOLIDATE. WHAT IT IS GOOD TO BENEFIT FROM THAT TRANSPORTATION PIECE. THERE'S LOTS OF GOOD IN THIS.

THE PIECE THAT I DON'T LIKE. HERE'S A PIECE THAT I'M HAVING MUCH TROUBLE WITH IS THAT WE ARE SITTING HERE AND YOU CALL IT. HE CALLED IT AND YOU SAID IN THE SUMMER WE'RE GONNA HIT THE PEAK AND BE TERRIBLE.

SO THE WAY I SEE IS THAT WE ARE HAVING A HIGH WATERMARK RIGHT NOW. AND WE'RE LOCKING OURSELVES IN FOR YEARS TO COME. AT THE HIGH WATERMARK.HAT'S

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THE PART I DON'T LIKE. THAT'S THE PART I DON'T LIKE.

>> COMMISSIONER? >> JUDGES, I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU ARE SAYING ABOUT THE PRIVATE COMPANY, BUT I BELIEVE HASKELL COUNTY HAS TO AGREE ALSO ÃTHIS IS THE PUBLIC ALSO.

AND IF THEY DO TAKE US ÃÃBUT THEY DO STOCK START TAKING ON.

WE ARE OFF THE HOOK FOR THE PAYMENT ALSO.

I'VE GOT TO FEEL STRONGER THIS CONTRACT ÃÃWHEN YOU THROW IN THE TRANSPORTATION MEDICINE ÃÃ THIS IS THE BEST PER INMATE DEAL THAT WE HAVE OUT THERE ON ALL OF OUR CONTRACTS.

>> YES.> YES. >> JORDAN, COULD YOU CLARIFY THAT THIS IS NOT A DIRECT CONTRACT WITH THEM.HIS IS INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT WITH HASKELL COUNTY?

>> YES. >> YES.

IT IS A TRI-PARTY. SO, ANY THIS DISH DO TAKE PART.

THEY WOULD HAVE TO TAKE PLACE WITH HASKELL COUNTY.

>> I THINK WE HAVE HAD INMATES HOUSED AT THE COUNTY FACILITIES THAT WERE PRIVATELY OPERATED BEFORE.

>> CORRECT. CLARITIN COUNTY.

AND THERE WAS ONE EAST OF MCLENNAN.

I CANNOT REMEMBER THE NAME. >> THE SHUT DOWN.

>> IT WAS IN BASKET. >> WAS IT?> WAS BOSSY I

THINK. >> COMMISSIONER INGALLS BE?

EXODUS. >> THE ONLY THING I WILL SAY IS THAT IT IS A LOT OF MONEY AND WE ARE PAYING A LOT OF MONEY RIGHT NOW. NO COMMISSIONER SAID IT BEST.

I WISH WE DIDN'T HAVE TO DO THIS.

UT, WE ARE IN A SITUATION WHERE I THINK YOU KNOW, IT IS A GOOD ALTERNATIVE TO HAVE THEM CONSOLIDATE OUR PRISONERS I'M HOPING THAT WE WILL BE ABLE TO BRING THEM ALL BACK SOON.ND HOUSE THEM HERE IN HAYS COUNTY. I DON'T KNOW WHEN THAT WILL BE.

>> MAYBE WE CAN PUT ANKLE MONITORS ON SOME OF THEM TO BRING THE PRICE DOWN. LAST QUESTION JORDAN.

CAN YOU READ RECAPPED THE COMMITMENT ON OCTOBER 1 PITSTOPS THE COMMITMENT. 100 BEDS.

HEMI YEARS AND EMPTY BEDS CAN YOU RECAP THAT ONE MORE TIME?

>> SURE. >> SO, IT'S A COMMITMENT FOR FY 2023. IT IS HUNDRED GUARANTEE.

FOR FY 22 AND FY 25. IT IS 200 GUARANTEE.

BE SINCE FISCAL YEAR. THIS CHANGES WOULD TAKE PLACE

ON OCTOBER 1 OF THAT YEAR. >> AT THE PRICE OF $95 PER INMATE PER DAY. THAT INCLUDES MEDICAL THE TWO ROUND-TRIP TRANSFERS PER WEEK. > GOT IT.

>> OKAY. >> 24 ÃÃISA 24 AND 25, RIGHT?

FOR THE GUARANTEE? >> FY 2014 FY 23.

>> THAT WOULD POTENTIALLY TERMINATE OUR DEAL AND OUR CONTRACT HAS BEEN COMPLETED AND FULFILLED AT THE END OF 25?

>> OF FY 23? >> YES.

>> WE HAD THE OPTION. ONE MORE NOTE.

MS. POWELL ARTIE DID NOTE BEFORE.

I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THE COURT UNDERSTANDS THAT WE CANNOT COMMIT FUTURE COURTS AND FUTURE BUDGETS.

THAT IS A GOAL. THAT IS THIS CLOSE THAT WE OFTEN SEE A BUDGET OUT) THAT IS IN THE CONTRACT.

IF THERE'S NOT APPROPRIATION FROM THE COURT, THE CONTRACT

TERMINATES. >> AT THE START OF ANY BUDGET,

WE COULD GET UP TO. >> BY NOT APPROPRIATING,

CORRECT. >> ARE ALSO, BASICALLY ÃTHIS

[INDISCERNIBLE] >> QUICKLY FOR THE BUDGET?

PULL FUNDING IF WE HAD TO? >> JUST TO CLARIFY.

>> YOU WOULD NEED TO REFRAIN FROM APPROPRIATING DURING THE

BUDGETARY PROCESS. >> CALLED MEN WITH RENEWALS

EVERY 12 MONTHS. >> OKAY.

SHE, ANY FINAL COMMENTS? I THINK WE ARE SHOVING OFF.E HAD BEATEN THE THING TO DEATH. ALL RIGHT, THERE'S NOTHING ELSE. PLEASE CALL THE REALTOR.

>> COMMISSIONER INGALLS BE? >> YES POINT.

>> COMMISSIONER JONES?> COMMISSIONER SHALL?

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JUDGE BECERRA? >> HELL NO.

YES. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU CHIEF FOR YOUR TIME. SO NOW, IF YOU WILL PLEASE OPEN

AGENDA ITEM NUMBER AND ONE? >> AND ONE.

>> DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION RELATED TO THE

[INDISCERNIBLE] >> PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND TITLE FOR THE BEING PUBLIC AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE.

>> HAYS COUNTY FIRE MARSHAL CURRENTLY HAYS COUNTY IS UNDER A BURN BAN AND I RECOMMEND THAT THIS THEY AND IN DEMAND.

I GIVE YOU AN UPDATE AS FAR AS EXPECTED WEATHER.

THERE IS A WEAK COLD FRONT THAT WILL BE ARRIVING ON THURSDAY.

DON'T GET TOO EXCITED. TEMPERATURES WILL STILL REMAIN IN THE HIGH 90S. YOU CAN FOLLOW THE COLD FRONT PUSHING THROUGHPUT HOWEVER, THAT DOES INCREASE OUR CHANCE OF RAIN.ESTERDAY IN THE REPORT THAT I PROVIDED TO YOU Ã ÃIT SHOWED 40 PERCENT ON THURSDAY WITH AN INCREASE THURSDAY NIGHT INTO FRIDAY. JUST LOOKING AT THE UPDATED

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FORECAST ÃÃIN A SHOWS A UPDATED CHANGE ON THURSDAY NIGHT AND INTO FRIDAY. ALSO, WATCHING A DISTURBANCE THAT IS DEVELOPED IN THE SOUTHWEST CARIBBEAN.

THAT IS MOVING NORTH. SO, WE WILL SEE HOW THOSE LISTEN TO THOSE IMPACT EACH OTHER.

CURRENTLY, THERE IS QUITE A BIT OF RAIN IN SOUTH TEXAS.

WHEN TALKING ABOUT THE RAIN, THE STATE HAS DISPATCHED A WATER RESCUE TEAM TO SOUTH TEXAS.

TO ASSIST WITH THE DECLINE THAT IS GOING ON DOWN THERE.

SO, WHILE WE ARE HOPING FOR RAIN ÃÃWE DON'T NEED THAT AMOUNT OF RAIN. AND THEN JUST TO PUT IT IN YOUR MIND'S TEXAS NEXT WEEK DURING COURT, WE WILL POSSIBLY BE DISCUSSING THE EXTENSION OF THE BURN BAN.

IT WILL SET TO EXPIRE THE FIRST WEEK OF SEPTEMBER.

WHILE WE DO NOT HAVE COURTS. WE WILL NEED TO TALK ABOUT IT

NEXT WEEK. >> COMMISSIONERS?

>> THANK YOU. >> WOULD ONLY CARE ABOUT FORGET

THE RAIN. >> THAT'S RIGHT, THANK YOU.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE AND THANK YOU FOR ALL THAT YOU DO.

I HAVE SEEN YOU OUT THERE AND I'M GRATEFUL THAT YOU REPRESENT

US IN THAT CAPACITY. >> LIKES HER.

I DO HAVE ONE QUESTION. I KNOW THAT TOM THE FIRST ALERT TO THE COUNTY JUST AS I GET NOTIFICATIONS FOR.

I KNOW THAT THERE HAS BEEN AT LEAST A COUPLE OF DISPATCHES BURN BAN VIOLATIONS. HAVE WE WRITTEN ANY CITATIONS

IN THE COUNTY AT ALL? >> WE WRITTEN SEVERAL CITATIONS TO THE COUNTY. SEVERAL OF THE HARD TIME FOLKS THAT ARE ALSO LOCAL FIRE MARSHALS FOR THERE'S JURISDICTIONS THAT ARE ADVERTISED UNDERNEATH MY OFFICE. I HAVE TAKEN SECURITY OF SOME

[N2. Discussion related to the Hays County inmate population, to include current population counts and costs. BECERRA]

OF THOSE RESPECTIVE TO THEIR JURISDICTIONS.

>> THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU SIR.

THANK YOU. >> DOCTOR, PLEASE OPEN LETTER

AND TWO. >> DISCRETIONARY LADY TO THE HAYS COUNTY INMATE POPULATION.

[INDISCERNIBLE] >> OKAY.

EACH WEEK THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE HAS ANY REPORT AND OUR INMATE CAPACITY IS CURRENTLY 410 INMATES.

JOE STATUS RECOMMENDS HOLDING Ã THIS RECOMMEND HOLDING 360 PER THE OUTSOURCING COSTS FOR THE INMATES THIS WEEK WAS $91,218.

THE AVERAGE NUMBER OF OUTSOURCED MALES IS 151 AND THE MOST ARE 37. THIS WEEK'S INMATES ARE HAVING THE FOLLOWING COUNTIES. LEE, MEMBER, AND RED RIVER.

PAPER READY INMATES, WHICH ARE INMATES THAT HAVE GONE THROUGH OUR JUDICIAL SYSTEM AND HAVE BEEN FOUND GUILTY ARE NASTY INMATES AND THAT HEADCOUNT IS 25.

WE HAVE 25 PAPER READY STATE INMATES.

[EXECUTIVE SESSIONS]

I THINK THAT CONCLUDES THAT PART AND NOW WE JUST HAD EXECUTIVE SESSION. IF YOU WOULD PLEASE OPEN TO M1.

>> M1. EXECUTIVE SESSION PURSUANT TO SECTIONS 551.071 AND 551 072. OF THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE.

CONSULTATION WITH COUNSEL AND DELIBERATIONS REGARDING THE PURCHASE, EXCHANGE, LEASE, AND OR VALUE OF RENTAL PROPERTY ASSOCIATED WITH PARKS AND OPEN SPACE PROJECTS.

BEING CONSIDERED BY HAYS COUNTY.

POSSIBLE DISCUSSION AND/OR ACTION MAY FOLLOW IN THE

OPENING COURT. >> OKAY.

MOTION TO SECOND? >> WE ARE GOING TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION. IF YOU ARE NOT TIED TO THIS AGENDA ITEM, PLEASE CLEAR THE COURTROOM.

>> YOU GUYS READY TO GO? SOME DISCRETE TERMS. THE MICROPHONES ARE ON. LREADY.

THEY CAN HEAR US. >> A GOOD?

>> JUDGE, I HAVE ONE MOTION COMING OUT OF EXECUTIVE SESSION. I MOVE TO AUTHORIZE THE PROCESSING OF THE REQUEST TO FULLY EXECUTE THE AGREEMENTS RELATED TO THE 2020 PARKS BOND. THE REQUESTS HAVE BEEN APPROVED BY THE PARKS PROGRAM MANAGER. THE OFFICE OF GENERAL COUNSEL.

AND THE HAYS COUNTY AUDIO. THE FIRST REQUEST WE WILL EXPECT TO SEE IN THE AMOUNT OF $651,769.94 TO RETIRE THE DEBT SERVICE ON THE LAND FOR PATRIOT HALL ED PATRIOT SPRINGS.

THIS IS FOR ITEM M ÃONE. >> THANK YOU.

PLEASE CALL THE

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