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>> A VERY GOOD MORNING TO YOU ALL.
WE OF COURSE WHEN WE'RE COUNTY, STATE A NATION OF DIVERSITY AND VARIETY OF ALL FRONTS. OF COURSE WE'RE DEALING WITH A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS. WHAT'S HEAVY IN MY HEART WE LOST THOSE 2 FIRE FIGHTERS FROM MAXWELL AND IT'S HEART BREAKING TO SEE. SINCERELY INTERESTED PEOPLE IN SERVING OTHERS WHICH IS THE MOST POWERFUL THING WE CAN DO IN MY OPINION AND PASS AWAY IN SUCH AN INSTANT.
I WAS SAD ABOUT THAT. AT THE SAME TIME I LOOK AROUND AND FEEL HAPPY FOR ALL OF THE THINGS BRINGING US TOGETHER.
[CALL TO ORDER]
IT'S A MIXED BAG. I'D LIKE TO CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER. AND -- PERFECT.THANK YOU. AND I THINK IT'S MOST FITTING TO BRING PEACE AND HARMONY INTO OUR COURTROOM THIS MORNING WITH PASTOR DARUOUS TODD. IF YOU'LL APPROACH THE PODIUM AND YOU'LL
ALL RISE FOR OUR INVOCATION. >> GOOD MORNING, EVERYONE.
LET US BOW. FATHER AND MOST GRACIOUS HEAVENLY LORD WE THANK YOU FOR THIS DAY AND OPPORTUNITY TO COME BEFORE YOU AND YOUR PEOPLE. WE THANK YOU, LORD, WHERE YOU SAID ANY 2 OR MORE GATHERED IN YOUR NAME CRUREIN OUR MIDST.
YOUR PRESENCE IS NEEDED IN THE HEARTS OF SO MANY WHO ARE HURTING AND THE HEARTS OF SO MANY WHO ARE STRUGGLING.
MANY WHO HAVE DOUBTS AND GOING THROUGH ALL DIFFERENT MANNERS OF ISSUES MUCH LORD, YOU ARE SOVEREIGN AND GREAT.
AND YOU'RE ABLE TO WORK IN THE LIVES WHO ARE HERE.
SO FATHER WE ASK THAT YOU WOULD COVER THIS COURT.
ADMINISTER TO THE NEEDS OF YOUR PEOPLE, COUNTY AND COMMUNITY.
WE THANK YOU OTHER LORD FOR THE DIVERSITY YOU CREATED. WE THANK YOU, LORD GOD AND CELEBRATE WHAT YOU HAVE DONE.
WE ASK THAT YOU CAUSE THESE PROCEEDINGS TO BE COVER BY YOUR HAND AND YOUR MERCY WOULD COVER OUR COUNTY AND COMMUNITY IN JESUS NAME. AMEN.
[PUBLIC COMMENTS]
>> JUST TO AVOID CONFUSION THERE ARE 3 WAYS TO COMMUNICATE WITH THIS COURT WHICH IS A COURT OF RECORD.
WE HAVE PUBLIC COMMENTS AND THEN THAT IS TO BE READ OUT LOUD HERE THAT ISN'T SPECIFICALLY TIED TO AN AGENDA ITEM.
AND THEN WE HAVE THE SAME FORM YET SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON A SPECIFIC AGENDA WHY. WE ARE TRYING OUR BEST TO STAY ACCESSIBLE TO THE COMMUNITY AND THERE ARE WRITTEN COMMENTS AS WELL. SO IF YOU HAVE ANY CONFUSION WITH WHEN WAS I SUPPOSED TO BE CALLED, JUST KNOW THAT UNDER PUBLIC COMMENTS AT THIS MOMENT, I AM HOLDING 2 FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS AND THEN THE REST WILL BE READ WHEN WE OPEN THAT AGENDA WHY. ERCH EVERYONE CLEAR ON THAT? I DON'T WANT YOU TO FEEL IGNORED OR STRESSED.
THOSE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO SUBMITTED A PUBLIC PARTICIPATION WITNESS FORM HAVE 3 MINUTES TO SEAK.
UNFORTUNATELY NO ACTION MAY BE TAKEN BY THE COURT DURING PUBLIC COMMENTS AS WE ARE EXPECTED NOT TO RESPOND.
PLEASE KEEP YOUR COMMENTS AND LANGUAGE CIVIL AND RESPECTFUL OR YOU WILL FORFEIT THE REMAINDER OF YOUR TIME.
IN THE SPIRIT OF RESPECT, PLEASE SILENCE YOUR CELL PHONES.
I'LL SAY IT ONE MORE TIME. PLEASE, YOU MAY THINK YOU HAVE
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IT SILENT. FOR EVERYONE'S BENEFIT.CHECK YOUR CELL PHONE. MAKE SURE IT'S SILENT.
OUR FIRST PERSON SIGNED UP TO SPEAK UNDER PUBLIC COMMENTS IS MR. KENNETH W DAVIS. YOU HAVE 3 MINUTES SIR.
>> I HAVE 3 ITEMS. I'LL TALK QUICKLY.
MY NAME IS KEN DAVIS. WHEN I BUILT A HOME THERE IN HAYS COUNTRY OAKS IN 1994 WE HAD ASPHALT STREETS.
IN 1990 WE PUT IN CHIP SEAL ON THESE STREETS.
WE HAVEN'T HAD GOOD STREETS SINCE.
THE STREETS ARE IN WORST SHAPE IN 38 YEARS OUT THERE.
RECENTLY I'VE TALKED TO COMMISSIONER SMITH.
AND COMMISSIONER SMITH HAS TOLD ME THAT HE WOULD GET BACK TO ME ON THIS ISSUE. I'VE BEEN TOLD THAT THE PROCESS IS THAT AFTER THE CONSTRUCTION PLAN IS AUTHORIZED FOR A SUBDIVISION AND THE COUNTY TAKES OVER THE ROADS THAT THEY PUT THE ROADS BACK IN CONDITION THAT THEY WERE ORIGINALLY PUT IN AS AND KEEP THEM UP. WE HAD ASPHALT IN 1978.
IT WAS THERE WHEN I MOVED IN IN 84.
IN 90 THEY PUT IN THE CHIP SEAL. I KNOW THIS PROCESS WORKS.
WE'VE SEEN THE PROCESS WORK IN OAK FOREST.
WHAT WE'RE ASKING IN HAYS COUNTRY OAKS IS THAT WE HAVE HOT MIX PUT ON OUR STREETS. WE NEED A STOP LIGHT AT JERRY'S LANE AND 1526. WE'VE HAD ACCIDENTS THERE ALONG THAT STRETCH OF ROAD. THAT HARD LIGHT AT THAT LOCATION WILL PROVIDE ACCESS FOR 6 SUBDIVISIONS IN THAT AREA TO GET ON AND OFF OF 1626 SAFELY. MY LAST ITEM IS THEY'RE SHOOTING OUR BABIES IN THE FACE WITH ASSAULT WEAPONS AND MUTILATING THEIR BODIES. I -- WE NEED LAWS THAT PROTECT OUR PEOPLE AND OUR BABIES AND OUR KIDS.
I'M ASKING THE COURT TO REQUEST THAT THE LEGISLATURE HAVE A SPECIAL SESSION TO LOOK AT THE GUN LAWS AND GET THESE ASSAULT WEAPONS OFF OF THE STREET. I DON'T CARE IF THEY KEEP THEM AT HOME, IF THEY HAVE A PERMIT AND TAKE THEM TO SHOOT AT A RANGE. WE HAVE TO GET THESE TERRIBLE WEAPON SAYS OFF OF THE STREET. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
GOD BLESS AND KEEP YOU. AND I APPRECIATE YOU.
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH, MR. DAVIS, I APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS.
COMMISSIONER JONES. >> JERRIES LANE AT 1626 IS STARTING CONSTRUCTION AND SHOULD BE IN CONSTRUCTION THAT STOP
LIGHT THERE. >> OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS MR. DAN
LION. >> THANK YOU JUDGE, SIR AND COURT. I ECHO WHAT THE FIRST SPEAKER SAID. I WOULD SAY GET TERRIBLE CRIMINALS OFF THE STREET. ANYWAY, WHAT I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT IS THERE WAS A PODCAST ENTITLED EASING INTO WATER SHED PROTECTION WITH TAXES AND BONDS. THAT WAS APRIL 15TH, 2021.
AND AN EXCERPT FROM THAT IS SOME EXAMPLES, THIS IS FRANK DAVIS, CHIEF CONSERVATION OFFICER AT HILL COUNTRY CONSERVANCY.
LOOKING AT SOURCE WATER PROTECTION PROGRAMS. TIE THE USE OF DRINKING WATER TO THE FINANCING OF PROTECTING THE WATERSHED. AND SO WE'RE WORKING ON FEASIBILITY FOR THAT RIGHT NOW. WORKING WITH NUMEROUS GROUND WATER CONSERVATION DISTRICTS AND WATER SUPPLIERS AND OTHER S TO SEE WHAT MAY BE DONE THERE TO DEVELOP A SUSTAINABLE SOURCE OF FINANCING. IF SOMEBODY TURNS ON THE TAP AND USE THAT WATER RESOURCE IT'S PAYING FOR PROTECTION AND WE CAN RELY ON THAT FINANCING INTO THE FUTURE.
IT'S UNLIKELY THAT FOLKS ARE GOING TO STOP TAKING SHOWERS AND DRINKING WATER AND WASHING THEIR DISHES.
FOLKS, DO YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT THIS MEANS? IT MEANS THE HILL COUNTRY CONSERVANCY IS TAXING US ON
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WATER THAT IS LAWFULLY OURS. DO ANY OF THE PEOPLE IN HAYS COUNTY REMEMBER VOTING ON THIS? I KNOW I DIDN'T VOTE ON THIS.NO HE DID SAY SOMETHING ABOUT, QUOTE, PASSING THE TORCH, UNQUOTE TO I ASSUME THE HILL COUNTRY CONSERVANCY.
I FOUND ALL THIS OUT BY FOLLOWING LINKS IN AN ARTICLE DATED MARCH 13TH, 2022. IN THIS ARTICLE THERE WAS A BIZARRE STATEMENT WHICH I WILL QUOTE.
LIKE MANY FIELDS IN THE UNITED STATES ENVIRONMENTAL CONSERVATION HAS LONG BEEN INTERWOVEN WITH THE DYNAMICS OF RACIAL OPPRESSION AND EXCLUSION RELATED TO RACE, CLASS AND GENDER MUCH THE TEXAS HILL COUNTRY HAS NOT ESCAPED THE EFFECTS OF THIS DYNAMICS. THEY'RE LINKING THE PROTECTION OF WATER TO GENDER AND RACIAL BIAS.
TO ME THIS IS TOTALLY BIZARRE. ANYWAY, IN TIMES OF DROUGHT, SNAKES COME OUT OF THEIR DENS SEEKING WATER.
I SUGGEST WE STOMP ON THESE SNAKES BEFORE THEY GIVE US ALL A FATAL BITE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
[F1. Adopt a Proclamation recognizing June 2022 as Elder Abuse Prevention Awareness Month. BECERRA]
>> PLEASE OPEN AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 1.
>> ADOPT A PROCLAMATION RECOGNIZING JUNE 2022 AS ELDER ABUSE PREVENTION AWARENESS MONTH.
>> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
PLEASE CALL THE ROLE. >> COMMISSIONER INGALS BEE.
>> YES. >> NOW PLEASE READ THE
PROCLAMATION. >> WHEREAS PEOPLE THAT ARE ELDERLY AND HAVE DISABILITIES CONTRIBUTED TO THE GENERAL WELFARE OF HAYS COUNTY. FROM DIVERSE BACKGROUNDS AND WHEREAS THESE RESIDENTS ARE VITAL AND INTEGRAL MEMBERS OF OUR SOCIETY AND WISDOM AND EXPERIENCE ENRICHED OUR LIVES.
ABUSE OF THE ELDERLY AND PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES IS A WIDESPREAD PROBLEM AFFECTING HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE
ACROSS THE COUNTRY. >> AND WHEREAS ELDER ABUSE IS GROSSLY UNDERREPORTED BECAUSE THE ELDERLY WHO ARE BEING ABUSED FIND IT DIFFICULT TO TELL ANYONE.
AND WHEREAS ELDER ABUSE HAPPENS TO MEN AND WOMEN OF ALL INCOME LEVELS ALL CULTURAL AND ETHNIC GROUPS.
IN POOR NEIGHBORHOODS AND IN SUBURBIA.
AND WHEREAS MANY OF THESE CASES INVESTIGATED BY ADULT PROTECTIVE SERVICES IN TEXAS INVOLVE SELF NEGLECT AND IT IS OUR DUTY AS CITIZENS TO REACH OUT TO PEOPLE IN NEED.
THE HAYS COUNTY COMMISSIONERS COURT DOES PROCLAIM THE MONTH OF JUNE 2022 TO BE ILDER ABUSE PREVENTION MONTH IN HAYS COUNTY.
ADOPTED THIS THE 21ST DAY OF JUNE, 2022.
>> BEAUTIFUL AND THANK YOU. I KNOW WE HAVE MS. STEPHANIE MCCOY TO SPEAK IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO APPROACH THE PODIUM.
IS SOMEONE ELSE HERE? PERFECT.
>> STEPHANIE IS OUR COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT PERSON.
MY NAME IS JENNIFER ALVARADO. I AM THE SUPERVISOR OF ADULT PROTECTIVE SERVICES IN HAYS COUNTY.
WE HAVE JOSHUA MODEN ONE OF OUR CASE WORKERS FOR HAYS COUNTY.
HE HAS COMMENTS TO BRING AWARENESS TO THIS PROCLAMATION.
>> GOOD MORNING. SO AS YOU KNOW WE APS RAISES -- THESE ISSUES ARE GROSSLY UNDER REPORTED BECAUSE OF SOCIAL STIGMA EMBARRASSMENT AND FEAR. AS MENTIONED BEFORE WE RECEIVED 118208 DAUGHTS PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES WERE AFFECTED IN 2021. OUR GOAL IS TO ALLEVIATE ELDERLY
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AND PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES FROM THE STATE OF NEGLECT, ABUSEAND EXPLOITATION. >> ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS?
>> THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. AND HELPING US BE AWARE OF THE STATISTICS. IT'S SAD THAT IT HAPPENS.
WE NEED TO DO ALL WE CAN TO BRING AWARENESS.
>> THANK YOU ALL FOR WHAT YOU DO.
>> THANK YOU. THE ONE THING I WOULD SAY IN THE BACK UP IF ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE OR WATCHING HASN'T BEEN ABLE TO LOOK AT IT, THERE'S VERY GOOD FLIERS ON SIGNS TO LOOK FOR AND AWARENESS AND HOW TO IDENTIFY THOSE THAT MAY BE SUBJECT TO THIS ABUSE THAT YOU MAY NOT RECOGNIZE.
I HAD -- I WILL TELL YOU THAT MY BROTHER WAS IN A CARE FACILITY FOR 6 YEARS BEFORE HE PASSED. AND SOME OF THOSE SIGNS WE WEREN'T ABLE TO SEE UNTIL THAT PLACE WAS -- UNTIL IT WAS INSPECTED BY A DIFFERENT INSPECTOR FROM THE STATE.
AND KNOWING THAT THERE ARE RESIDENTS THERE INCLUDING HIM THAT WENT THROUGH ABUSE FOR A TIME WITHOUT US KNOWING OR HAPPENEDING IT WAS HAPPENING, IT'S DEVASTATING TO A FAMILY.
I WOULD ENCOURAGE EVERYBODY IF YOU HAVE A CHANCE LOOK AT THAT FLIER. THERE ARE THINGS THAT YOU MAY SEE AS NORMAL AND MAY NOT UNDERSTAND.
THOSE ARE INDICATORS THAT YOU MAY WANT TO TAKE A LOOK FOR.
>> THANK YOU FOR SHARING, COMMISSIONER.
I WILL ADD A FINAL NOTE THAT THE LORD HAS A MYSTERIOUS WAY OF REMINDING US ALL OF HOW INTERDEPENDENT WE ARE.
IF WE THINK WE'RE THE RIGHT, COLOR, SHAPE, WHATEVER.
WE HAVE A FEW OF THOSE IN COMMON.
ONE OF THOSE IS AGING. WE ARE ALL, GOD WILLING BEING HEADING INTO THIS SPACE AND WE ALL BENEFIT FROM THE COMMUNITY REACHING OUT, STEPPING UP AND PAYING ATTENTION.
IT IS CUSTOMARY. NOT NECESSARY FOR US TO TAKE A PICTURE. IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO POP UP REAL QUICK FOR A PICTURE.
>> AS THE COUNTY JUDGE, I HAVE LEARNED WHILE COMING UP THOSE PLACES ARE DESIGNED TO INTIMIDATE.
IF YOU FEEL -- SO IF YOU FIND YOURSELVES PARTICIPATING IN ONE OF THE PICTURES AND YOU FEEL AWKWARD COMING DOWN HERE.
THAT'S ON PURPOSE. IT WAS DESIGNED THAT WAY.
BE AT EASE. WE'RE A HAPPY FRIENDLY GROUP.
>> BEAUTIFUL. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
[APPLAUSE] >> AND WHILE WE'RE MOVING ALONG.
[F2. Adopt a Proclamation Recognizing the 35th Anniversary of the Workforce Solutions Rural Capital Area. BECERRA]
DR. CUTA, WILL YOU OPEN AGENDA NUMBER 2.>> NUMBER 2. ADOPT A PROCLAMATION RECOGNIZING THE 35TH ANNIVERSARY OF THE WORK FORCE SOLUTIONS RURAL CAPITAL
>> SECOND. >> COMMISSIONER INGALSBE.
>> YES. >> WILL YOU READ THE PRACTICAL
LAMATION. >> WHEREAS THE WORK FORCE SOLUTIONS RURAL CAPITAL AREA WAS INCORPORATED ON JUNE 30TH, 1987.
BY PROVIDING NO COST RECRUITMENT EMPLOYMENT SERVICES AND CHILD CARE ASSISTANCE TO BUSINESSES AND JOB SEEKERS SPECIFIC TO THE 9 COUNTY RURAL CAPITAL AREA OF CENTRAL TEXAS.
AND WHEREAS HAYS COUNTY AND WORK FORCE SOLUTIONS RURAL CAPITAL
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AREA IN PARTNERSHIP ARE COMMITTED TO ENSURING EMPLOYERS WILL HAVE A HIGHLY SKILLED AND EDUCATED WORK FORCE AND OUR RESIDENTS WILL HAVE THE COMPETENCY SKILLS AND EDUCATION TO BE SELF SUFFICIENT AND HAVE A QUALITY LIFE.BOARD OF DIRECTORS OF WHICH LUNARDI'S, GRANT REPRESENT HAYS COUNTY AND COME FROM AREAS OF EXPERTISE, INCLUDING BUSINESS, COMMUNITY BASED ORGANIZATIONS, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, EDUCATION, GOVERNMENT, LITERACY, LABOR OR VOCATIONAL REHABILITATION.
AND WHEREAS WORK FORCE SOLUTIONS RURAL CAPITAL AREA HAS BEEN UNIQUELY ABLE TO MEET THE CHANGING WORKFORCE NEEDS OF HAYS COUNTY ECONOMY AND PROVIDE THOUSANDS OF EMPLOYERS AND RESIDENTS WITH CUSTOMIZED SOLUTIONS TO EMPOWER THEIR WORKFORCE JOURNEYS. WOULD HONOR THEIR COMMITMENT AND SERVICE TO THE COMMUNITY AND ENCOURAGE MORE HAYS COUNTY EMPLOYERS AND WORKERS TO CONNECT WITH THEIR WORK FORCE PROGRAMS. THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED THAT THE HAYS COUNTY COMMISSIONERS COURT DOES COMMEND WORKFORCE SOLUTIONS RURAL CAPITAL -- AND WE EXPRESS APPRECIATION FOR LEADERSHIP IN ALL AREAS OF WORK FORCE DEVELOPMENT WITHIN OUR COMMUNITIES.
ADOPTED THIS THE 21ST DAY OF JUNE, 2022.
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH. DO WE HAVE MR. BRIAN HERNANDEZ HERE TO APPROACH THE PODIUM OR SOMEONE ELSE.
THERE WE GO. YOU LOOK FAMILIAR.
WE'VE SEEN YOU ONCE OR TWICE BEFORE.
>> I'M NOT BRIAN HERNANDEZ. MY NAME IS PAUL FLETCHER I'M THE CEO FOR THE WORKFORCE SOLUTIONS RURAL CAPITAL AREA.
WE APPRECIATE THE TIME TO RECOGNIZE WORKFORCE SOLUTIONS RURAL CAPITAL AREA TO SERVE THE COMMUNITY FOR 35 YEARS.
COMMITTED TO EMPOWERING LOCAL EMPLOYERS TO COP PETE AT A GLOBAL LEVEL FOR THE WORK FORCE OF OUR COMMUNITIES.
OUR NATION IS FACING A MIDDLE SKIS GAP.
ADDRESSING THIS CHALLENGE IS A MAIN CONCERN FOR OUR WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT BOARD. WHILE OUR REGIONAL UNEMPLOYMENT RATE CONTINUES TO SLIDE DOWN TO PREPANDEMIC LEVELS UNEMPLOYMENT REMAINS A CHALLENGE. WE HAVE 3 AND A HALF DECADES OF DELIVERING EXPERTISE. TO UNDERSTAND WHY OUR WORK IS VITAL FOR THE COMMUNITY WE BELIEVE THAT HAYS COUNTY IS THE BEST PLACE IN THE COUNTRY TO LIVE, WORK AND DO BUSINESS.
IN EACH OF OUR WORKFORCE CENTERS YOU'LL SEE OUR STAFF ASSISTING INDIVIDUALS WITH RESOURCES TO FIND A JOB CONNECTING THEM WITH SERVICES LIKE CHILD CARE ASSISTANCE TO KEEP THEM EMPLOYED. IT'S A WIN - WIN FOR OUR COMMUNITIES AND OUR WORKFORCE. AND CONTINUE PROVIDING OUR NEIGHBORS WITH THE OPPORTUNITY TO ACHIEVE THE AMERICAN DREAM.
THANKS TO YOUR PARTNERSHIP WE'LL CONTINUE DEVELOPING TALENT FOR
EMPLOYERS. >> BEAUTIFULLY SAID.
COMMISSIONERS, ANY OTHER COMMENTS.
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING HERE.
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GIVE ME ONE SEC. YOU'RE SO OFF BALANCE.[F3. Adopt a Proclamation recognizing June 2022 as LGBTQ Pride Month. BECERRA]
>> WILL YOU PLEASE OPEN AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 3.
>> NUMBER 3. ADOPT A PROCLAMATION RECOGNIZING
JUNE 2022 AS LGBTQ PRIDE MONTH. >> SO MOVED.
>> WE HAVE A MOTION. I GUESS I'LL BE THE SECOND.
PLEASE CALL THE ROLE. >> COMMISSIONER INGALSBE.
>> YES. >> COMMISSIONER SMITH.
>> YES. >> WILL YOU PLEASE READ IT.
>> ACTUALLY JUDGE BEFORE WE VOTE ON THIS.
CAN WE GET THE PROCLAMATIONISM WE'LL CALL TO IT.
YOU BET. >> WE HAVEN'T HAD A CHANCE TO
PLEASE READ IT. >> PROCLAMATION RECOGNIZING PRIDE MONTH 2022. WHEREAS PRIDE MONTH ENDURES AS A WORLD WIDE SYMBOL OF THE LOVE, ACCEPTANCE, INCLUSIVITY AND FREEDOM OF EXPRESSION CELEBRATING ALL PERSONAL AND GENDER IDENTITIES AS WELL AS HETEROSEXUAL AND CIS GENDER ALLIES. CAUSES US TO PAUSE AND REFLECT ON THE COURAGE AND SACRIFICE OF THE JUNE 1969 STONEBALL INN PROTESTERS WE CELEBRATE THE PROGRESS WE MADE AS A COMMUNITY IN THE FIGHT FOR JUSTICE, INCLUSION AND EQUALITY.
MERITING DIGNITY AND RESPECT OF SELF EXPRESSION THROUGH INTERPERSONAL BONDS, FAMILIAL RELATIONSHIPS AND MARRIAGE.
AND WE REAFFIRM OUR COMMITMENT TO SUPPORT AND PROTECT LGBTQI + RIGHTS. CONTINUES TO FACE SYSTEMIC DISCRIMINATION IN THE FORM OF RESTRICTED RIGHTS, SOCIAL STIGMA CHALLENGES ACCESSING HEALTHCARE, LIMITATIONS ON BASIC SOCIAL SERVICES AND ELEVATED RATES OF VIOLENCE.
AND WHEREAS DURING PRIDE MONTH AND ALL MONTHS WE STAND IN SOLIDARITY WITH THE LGBTQI + COMMUNITY.
REMAINING STEADFAST IN OUR COMMITMENT IN A SOCIETY IN WHICH LGBTQI + PEOPLE LIVE FREE FROM PREJUDICE AND FEAR.
RENEW OUR COMMITMENT TO DEFENDING THE RIGHTS OF THE LGBTQI + COMMUNITY AGAINST SOCIAL AND LEGISLATIVE OFFENSES AND WHEREAS CELEBRATING PRIDE MONTH AMPLIFIES AWARENESS, ADVOCACY AND SUPPORT FOR THE HAYS COUNTY LGBTQI + COMMUNITY.
BUILD ACCEPTANCE, STRENGTHEN ALLIANCES AND ADVANCE EQUAL RIGHTS. NOW THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED THAT THE JUDGE BECERRA AND COMMISSIONERS OF HAYS COUNTY DO PROCLAIM EVERY JUNE AS PRIDE MONTH AND CALL UPON OUR CITIZENS AND PEOPLE EVERYWHERE TO STAND TOGETHER IN PRIDE ADOPT THIS
21ST DAY OF JUNE 2022. >> A QUICK COMMENT I'D LIKE TO MAKE. SO COMMISSIONER SMITH POINTED OUT THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE THIS PROCLAMATION IN THE BACK UP AS IS CUSTOMARY FOR COURT MEMBERS TO PROVIDE.
THE REASON I DIDN'T HAVE IT IN THE BACK UP IS BECAUSE MOST OF YOU PROBABLY DON'T KNOW BUT MY OFFICE IS SHORT STAFFED LIKE MANY OTHER OFFICES ARE SHORT STAFFED AND SO I ACTUALLY LEAN
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ON -- I DEPEND ON THE COMMUNITY OF HAYS COUNTY TO HELP ME IN ACCOMPLISHING TASKS THAT ARE MY RESPONSIBILITY.I CALLED ON A MAGNIFICENT ELOQUENT ENGLISH TEACHER TO HELP AND SHE WROTE THIS FOR ME OVER THE WEEKEND.
THAT IS THE ONLY REASON I DIDN'T HAVE IT IN BACK UP.
I'M NOT TRYING TO PULL A FAST ONE ON ANYONE.
THIS IS A PLACE AND FORUM WHERE WE HAVE CONVERSATION AND EDIT AND MODIFY AND DO WHATEVER. THAT IS THE REASON I DIDN'T HAVE IT IN THE BACK UP. IF ANYTHING THAT WAS READ THAT YOU'D LIKE TO HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT, I'M READY
FOR THAT. >> I'D LIKE TO HAVE A COPY OF IT. WE NEVER -- AS FAR AS I KNOW.
SINCE WE'VE BEEN HERE -- YOU AND I WERE ELECTED THE SAME DAY.
SO IF YOU HAVE A COPY OF IT, I'D LOVE TO HAVE A COPY OF IT TO READ BEFORE WE HAVE ANY VOTE OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
COULD YOU MAKE 4 COPIES FOR THE COURT.
>> IT WAS VOTED ON AND READ OUT LOUD.
>> VOTED TO OPEN THE AGENDA ITEM.
MR. KENNEDY, SORRY TO TAP YOU ON THIS PRODUCT AND TONE WAS THE VOTE TO OPEN THE AGENDA ITEM OR PROCLAMATION.
>> LET HIM FINISH PLEASE. >> ON THE OTHER PROCLAMATIONS THAT THE COURT HAS TAKEN UP THUS FAR YOU'VE NOT VOTED TWICE.
MY ASSUMPTION IS THE VOTE COVERS THE OPENING OF THE DISCUSSION AND IF NOT AN OBJECTION OF THE COURT THEN AN ADOPTION OF THE
PROCLAMATION. >> IT'S AUTOMATIC.
I APPRECIATE THAT. UNLESS SOMEONE HAS AN AGENDA ITEM OR ITEM THEY WANT TO PULL WE'RE MOVING ON.
>> I HAVE QUESTIONS OVER THE SOCIAL AND LEGISLATIVE ATTACKS
>> IT'S VERY GENERAL. IF I HAD IT I WOULD LOVE TO LOOK AT IT AND POSSIBLY MAKE EDITS. THE FACT IS IT'S A GENERALIZED -- VERY GENERALIZED RESOLUTION AND I DO HAVE ISSUES WITH A NUMBER OF THE WHIES IN IT. AND NOT HAVING IT IN FRONT OF ME AND NOT HAVING THE ABILITY TO REVIEW IT IN A TIMELY FASHION IS
WOULD YOU LIKE US TO RECALL THE VOTE AND MAYBE HAVE YOU VOTE NO?
IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE THINKING. >> I HAVE A COPY OF THE
RESOLUTION. >> THERE ARE COPIES HERE AND IT WAS READ OUT LOUD. WOULD YOU LIKE TO PASS IT TO THE COMMISSIONER. WHEN I ASK FOR HELP IN WRITING IT, MY EXCLUSIVE DIRECTION, THE ONLY THING I ASKED WAS THAT IT BE AN ALL EMBRACING, LOVING, PEACEFUL, HARMONIZING DOCUMENT THAT WOULDN'T ATTACK FOLKS. BECAUSE THE WHOLE INTENT IS TO INCLUDE PEOPLE. AND SO THAT WAS MY ONLY MESSAGE.
WOULD YOU LIKE TO SAY ANYTHING. [APPLAUSE]
>> AS A JUST IN CASE. I DON'T WANT TO PUT YOU ON THE
>> IF YOU DO. THAT'S THE PODIUM SPACE FOR YOU.
I WANTED TO REMAIN ANONYMOUS ON THE CONVERSATION.
KIM CASTELL CONNOR IS THE PERSONAL FRIEND I TAPPED TO
WRITE THIS. >> I AM -- I AM GAY.
I AM A MEMBER OF THE LGBTQI COMMUNITY AND JUDGE BECERRA DID ASK THAT A DOCUMENT BE WRITTEN THAT WAS VERY INCLUSIVE VERY MUCH ABOUT HARMONY, INCLUSIVITY, THE DIVERSITY, EQUITY AND INCLUSION THAT WE STRIVE FOR. I WAS VERY MINDFUL WHEN I CHOSE MY WORDS OF WRITING IN A WAY THAT WOULD ENCOURAGE AN OPEN DIALOGUE. AND WOULD ENCOURAGE EVERYONE TO REACH FOR COMPASSION RATHER THAN ARMOR.
SO NONE OF THE VERB ARGE I CHOSE I FELT WAS DIVISIVE OR INFLAMMATORY. IN FACT EACH WORD WAS WEIGHED QUITE HEAVILY WITH THE INTENTION IN MIND TO BRING AWARENESS ENSURE THAT MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY WHO ARE SOMETIMES MARGINALIZED AND OVERLOOKED ARE -- FEEL SUPPORTED AND UNDERSTAND THAT HAYS COUNTY AND SURROUNDING AREAS IS A PLACE WHERE EVERYONE IS WELCOME TO LIVE THEIR LIFE, PURSUE THEIR GOALS WITH
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INTEGRITY HONOR AND COMPASSION. >> BEAUTIFUL.
>> COMMISSIONER, I'LL GIVE YOU MORE TIME.
I ACCIDENTALLY OVERLOOKED THAT I HAD MR. DAN LION SIGNED UP TO
SPEAK ON THIS AGENDA ITEM. >> THANK YOU JUDGE BECERRA AND COURT. I MUST HAVE MISSED SOMETHING.
I THINK YOU HAD THE VOTE BEFORE THE PRACTICAL LAMATION WAS READ.
I HAVE TO AGREE WITH COMMISSIONER SMITH.
THAT'S HIGHLY IRREGULAR. I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU ALL WERE THINKING WHEN YOU DID THAT. YOU KNOW, LET ME FIRST SAY THIS WHICH NOBODY SHOULD HAVE TO SAY. I AM NOT A BIGOT.
I DON'T CARE WHAT PEOPLE'S SEXUAL PREFERENCE IS.
I NEVER REALLY DID. I CERTAINLY HAVE NEVER DONE ANYTHING TO ANYBODY THAT WAS NOT OF THE SAME SEXUAL PREFERENCE OF MYSELF. AND I DID NOTICE ON THE LAST LINE OF THAT PROCLAMATION IN NOWHERE WAS IT MENTIONED HETEROSEXUALS YET YOU ALL SAY YOU WANT TO BRING PEOPLE TOGETHER OR PEOPLE LIKE ME WHO ARE NOT HAVING SEX, YOU KNOW.
YEP. >> WE ASK CONSIDER A RESOLUTION
FOR THAT. >> I WISH YOU WOULD, SIR.
I REALLY DO. NO SINGLE GROUP OF PEOPLE IS NO BETTER THAN ANY OTHER GROUP. NO SINGLE GROUP SHOULD BE PROUD OF THEMSELVES. IT IS NOT THE PLACE OF THE COUNTY TO MAKE THIS PROCLAMATION BASED ON GENDER PREFERENCE.
THERE WERE 3 REPUBLICANS ON THE COURT AND I HOPE THAT I SAW THEM VOTE FOR PRIDE, I WISH THEY HADN'T VOTED FOR PRIDE.
PRIDE WAS THE ORIGINAL SIN. LUCIFER THOUGHT HE COULD UP THE SHOW BETTER THAN YOU ALL. NOW YOU CAN SEE WHAT'S HAPPENING IN THE WORLD. THAT'S MY BELIEF, I DON'T KNOW YOU MAY HAVE ANOTHER BELIEF. I WOULD NEVER KNOWN THE LADY THAT JUST SPOKE HAD A DIFFERENT SEXUAL PREFERENCE THAN HER BIOLOGICAL WHATEVER. PI DON'T CARE.
I DON'T CARE. IT DOESN'T MATTER TO ME AT ALL.
IF PEOPLE TREAT ME RIGHT, I AND SOMETIMES PEOPLE THAT DON'T TREAT ME RIGHT, I DON'T TREAT THEM.
THAT'S A HUMAN FAILING. IN CONCLUSION I'M GOING TO SAY THE IMMORTAL WORDS OF THE VILLAGE PEOPLE FOR THE YMCA, QUOTE, PUT YOUR PRIDE ON THE SHELVE.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> THANK YOU MR. DAN LION.
I BELIEVE YOU HAD TIME TO READ IT COMMISSIONER.
>> YES, I WILL TELL YOU I NEVER THOUGHT I WOULD SAY THIS IN THIS COURT. I TEND TO AGREE WITH MR. LIONS.
THERE'S A FIRST TIME FOR EVERYTHING, DAN.
THE CONCERNS THAT I HAVE ARE SPECIFIC OVER THE PORTION THAT REFERENCES LEGISLATIVE OFFENSES. AND AGAIN, IT'S SO BROAD.
TWO THINGS, NUMBER ONE IT'S SO BROAD AND CLEARLY UNDEFINED.
THERE ARE THINGS GOING ON IN OUR STATE CAPITAL THAT I DON'T AGREE WITH. THERE ARE THINGS THAT ARE GOING ON IN OUR STATE CAPITOL THAT HAPPEN IN THE SCHOOL AND HALLWAY THAT ARE CONCERNING TO ME. THERE ARE LEGISLATIVE PRIORITIES MOVING IN OUR STATE CAPITOL THAT I BOTH AGREE AND DON'T AGREE WITH. ANYTHING RELATED TO THIS OR NOT KNOWING WHAT OFFENSES ARE REFERENCED HERE, I HAVE AN ISSUE WITH THAT. I WOULD SAY THAT.
THE OTHER THING THAT I WOULD SAY IS, YOU KNOW, WE TEND TO -- WE TEND TO DECLARE A WEEK OR A MONTH EACH YEAR SHOULD WE HAVE A RESOLUTION RELATED TO THAT. AND DECLARING IT IN PERP PETUITY I DON'T THINK WE'VE DONE THAT, DECLARING THIS MONTH OF JUNE IS GREAT. WE PROBABLY HAVE A RESOLUTION NEXT YEAR FOR THE SAME THING. WE DO THAT EVERY WEEK WHEN WE'RE
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HERE. THOSE ARE THE 2 ISSUES THAT I HAVE. I HAVE OTHER ISSUES WITH IT.THOSE ARE THE 2 THAT ARE A STICKING POINT FOR ME.
>> COMMISSIONER SHELL ANYTHING YOU'D LIKE TO CONTRIBUTE.
>> FROM A PROCESS STANDPOINT IT WOULD BE NICE TO HAVE THINGS WE'RE GOING TO VOTE ON PRIOR TO THAT.
I HAVE PROCLAMATIONS AND BACK UP AND CHANGED IN COURT.
I'M SUSCEPTIBLE TO ANY CHANGES. IT'S A TIME FOR RECOGNITION, PRESENTATIONS AND PROCLAMATIONS I'VE USUALLY STAYED OUT OF THE DEBATE DURING THESE TIMES. OBVIOUSLY WE TRY TO MAKE THESE CEREMONIAL AND APPRECIATIVE OF PEOPLE AND RECOGNIZE THINGS THAT ARE IMPORTANT. I UNDERSTAND THIS IS AN IMPORTANT ISSUE. I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM SUPPORTING IT. I THINK IT WOULD BE GOOD FOR US TO HAVE THAT SO WE CAN OFFER THOSE SUGGESTIONS IN A PROFESSIONAL AND REASONABLE AND POLITE WAY.
>> THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER JONES.
>> WE WISH WE'D HAD THIS BEFORE TO LOOK AT.
I DON'T HAVE PROBLEMS WITH IF COMMISSIONER SMITH WANTS TO MAKE THOSE EDITS, I'M GOOD EITHER WAY.
>> NOTHING IN THE CONTENT WAS TROUBLING.
>> I'M FINE, JUDGE. MY HEART TELLS ME TO SAY THAT GOD CALLS US TO LOVE EVERYONE. WE MAY NOT AGREE ON EVERYTHING.
NOT JUST WITH THIS, BUT WITH EVERYTHING.
I STILL BELIEVE THAT EVERYONE WAS MADE IN GOD'S IMAGE AND WE SHOULD LOVE EVERYONE AND IT'S NOT FOR US TO JUDGE IF GOD HAS THE ULTIMATE SAY. [APPLAUSE]
>> I WOULD JUST AGREE WITH YOU. I HAD LIVELY CONVERSATIONS AT THE -- THIS LAST WEEK I ATTENDED THE REPUBLICAN STATE CONVENTION.
WE HAD LIVELY CONVERSATIONS. AT THE END OF THE DAY THE GUIDING PRINCIPLE THAT A LOT OF US USED, THE GUIDING PRINCIPLE IN THERE WAS THAT GOD CALLED TO LOVE GOD HIMSELF AND THE NEIGHBOR. I BELIEVE IT'S NOT OUR DUTY AS ELECTED OFFICIALS OR HUMAN BEINGS TO JUDGE ANYONE.
THAT'S FOR SOMEBODY ELSE'S OR HIGHER POWER'S DUTY.
I DON'T HAVE AN ISSUE OVERALL WITH THE RESOLUTION.
I DO HAVE AN ISSUE WITH SOME OF THAT WORDING.
IT IS PROBLEMATIC. AND SO, AGAIN, THE LEGISLATIVE OFFENSES PORTION, I HAVE ISSUE WITH THAT AND I'D LIKE TO REMOVE THAT. OTHER THAN THAT JUST MAKING IT AN ANNUALIZED OR A CONTINUING WHERE WE WOULD CONSIDER THIS AGAIN. WHO KNOWS WHAT HAPPENS IN THE NEXT YEAR THAT YOU ALL MAY WANT OR SOMEONE ELSE MAY WANT ADDRESSED IN THE RESOLUTION. THAT'S THE PURPOSE FOR THAT.
>> LET'S CALL THAT A MOTION. A MOTION TO REMOVE THE WORD LEGISLATIVE AND THEN THE WORD EVERY SO IT'S BROUGHT BACK
>> WE HAVE A MOTION. >> SECOND.
>> SO THE MOTION IS TO REMOVE THE LEGISLATIVE PIECE AND TO TAKE OFF THE WORD EVERY OUT OF THE JUNE SO ALTHOUGH PRIDE IS EVERY MONTH, EVERY YEAR THE SAME MONTH, WE'LL BRING IT BACK EVERY YEAR. AND SO THAT'S THE MOTION.
WE HAVE A SECOND. PLEASE CALL THE ROLE.
>> COMMISSIONER INGALSBE. >> YES.
>> COMMISSIONER JONES. >> YES.
>> COMMISSIONER SMITH. >> YES.
>> NOW IF YOU WILL ALL COME UP FOR A PICTURE.
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1-2-3. >> BEAUTIFUL AND THANK YOU.
THANK YOU SO MUCH, GUYS. >> WILL YOU PLEASE OPEN AGENDA
ITEM NUMBER 5. >> NUMBER 5 OR 4?
[F4. Adopt a Proclamation recognizing the Celebration of the 80th Anniversary of La Sociedad Mutualista de Cuauhtémoc. INGALSBE]
>> 4 ADOPT A PROCLAMATION RECOGNIZING THE CELEBRATION OF THE 80TH AN VARIOUS OF LA SOSE DAD MUTUALISTA.
>> SO MOVED. >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. PROCLAMATION.
YOU WANT TO READ IT FIRST. >> READ IT FIRST BEFORE WE VOTE.
PRACTICAL LAMATION RECOGNIZING THE CELEBRATION OF THE 80TH AN VARIOUS. WHEREAS IN 1942 A CHARITABLE ORGANIZATION WAS FORMED TO PROMOTE AND PRESERVE THE HERITAGE AND CULTURAL IDENTITY OF PEOPLE OF MEXICAN AND MEXICAN AMERICAN DESCENT. THE FOUNDERS HONORED THEIR FELLOW MEXICAN AMERICANS WISH TO PRESERVE CULTURAL TRADITIONS AND LIVE IN HARMONY IN THE MELTING POT OF AMERICA.
AND WHEREAS THE BOARD MEMBERS WORKED WITH DEVOTION AND FORTITUDE TO CREATE A FBI VIBRANT COMMUNITY WHERE THE MILESTONES OF THEIR LIVES WOULD BE CELEBRATED.
REVEREND JOSE S FLORES, MATEO RENE, JUAN FLORES, IGNACIO VASQUEZ, IGNACIO VILLAPONDO. THOMAS GARZA AND OTHER DEDICATED MEMBERS PROPERTY WAS PURCHASED IN 1944 FOR THE FUTURE SITE OF CUAUHTEMOC HALL. AND PROVIDED AN IMPORTANT CENTER FOR CELEBRATING TRADITIONAL FAMILY EVENTS.
HAS AWARDED OVER 300,000 COLLEGE SCHOLARSHIPS TO LOCAL HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS OF ALL RACES IN HAYS COUNTY SINCE 2011.
AND WHEREAS STILL CONTINUES ORIGINAL PURPOSE TO SUPPORT THE COMMUNITY AND CELEBRATE OUR IMPORTANT TRADITIONS.
THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED THAT THE HAYS COUNTY COURT DOES RECOGNIZE THE 80TH AN VARIOUS AND CALLS UPON THE PEOPLE OF HAYS COUNTY TO JOIN TOGETHER AND CELEBRATE THIS ANNIVERSARY ADOPTED THIS THE 21ST DAY OF JUNE 2022.
>> WITH THAT GREEK TONGUE, YOU NAILED IT.
I MEAN AS SHE TRIES. SHE DOES A WONDERFUL JOB.
YOU'RE A MAGNIFICENT READER. COMMISSIONER INGALSBE I FELT SO HAPPY TO SEE THIS AGENDA ITEM ON HERE.
I FELT PROUD. WE CALL IT CUAUHTEMOC HERE.
TO SEE THE IMPACT. IT IS ONE OF THE PILLARS IN OUR COMMUNITY. THANK YOU FOR BRINGING IT TO THE
I APPRECIATE IT. ROSINA VIA DESERVES THE CREDIT FOR ASKING IT BE PUT ON THE AGENDA.
SHE WANTS TO SAY A FEW WORDS. I WANT TO THANK HER AND EVERYONE REPRESENTING THIS PROCLAMATION. AS I WAS GROWING UP ATTENDING
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THE HALL AND CELEBRATING WEDDINGS AND ANNIVERSARIES AND -- IT HAS BEEN A PILLAR OF OUR COMMUNITY FOR A VERY VERY LONG TIME. AS WE JUST READ.THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ENDORSING AND EVERYTHING YOU HAVE DONE IN
YOUR LEADERSHIP. >> IF THERE'S NO OTHER COMMENTS,
WE'LL CALL THE ROLE. >> I WOULD SAY THAT THE ORGANIZATION WORKS GREAT THROUGHOUT TEXAS.
WHERE I GOT TO SEE IT WAS IN WACO.
IT'S UNFORTUNATE THEY LOST THEIR HALL WITH SOME REDEVELOPMENT THERE. THE NEW ONE IS GETTING THERE.
>> DR. CARNES WILL YOU CALL THE ROLE.
>> COMMISSIONER SHELL? >> COMMISSIONER INGALSBE.
>> YES. >> COMMISSIONER SMITH.
>> YES. >> GOOD MORNING, JUDGE AND COMMISSIONERS. THANK YOU FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY AND THANK YOU DEBBIE FOR RECOGNIZING THIS PROCLAMATION.
I AM BORN AND BLESSED IN SAN MARCOS.
I'M REPRESENTING THE HAYS COUNTY HISTORICAL COMMISSION.
I'M A VICE CHAIR AS WELL AS A MEMBER OF THE HISPANIC HERITAGE COMMITTEE. MY GRANDFATHER WAS ONE OF THE FOUNDERS. AND MY FATHER PROMOTED MANY EVENTS THERE AS WELL. I RECALL AS A YOUNG CHILD ATTENDING MANY EVENTS TOO. LEARNING TO DANCE OR TRYING TO DANCE ON THAT CONCRETE FLOOR YEARS AGO.
REMEMBER BEING SCOOTED OUT OF THE WAY BY THE USHERS WHO WOULD COME AROUND AND DISTRIBUTE FLOUR OR SALTOR THE CAN CRETE FLOOR SO YOU WOULDN'T SLIP. I WOULD LIKE YOU TO VIEW THE DISPLAY DOWNSTAIRS IN THE ROTUNDA.
IT'S AN ONGOING PROJECT. WE CONTINUE TO RECEIVE MANY ARTIFACTS FROM MEMBERS, PAST MEMBERS.
HISTORICAL MARKER IS ON THE WAY FROM THE TEXAS HISTORICAL COMMISSION. WORKED BY MEMBERS OF THE HAYS COUNTY COMMISSION FOR YEARS NOW. IT'S BEEN SIGNED, SEALED AND WE NEED DELIVERY. THAT DELIVERY IS EXPECTED IN AUGUST. AT THIS POINT I'D LIKE TO INVITE THE CURRENT PRESIDENT OF THE CENTRO CUAUHTEMOC.
>> HER FREUDIAN SLIP WAS MENTIONING ANOTHER ICON IN OUR COMMUNITY THAT WE WERE BLESSED TO HAVE.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR HOLDING THIS TODAY.
ABSOLUTELY WONDERFUL IN RECOGNITION.
WANTED TO LET EVERYONE KNOW. MY NAME IS LAURA I AM THE PRESIDENT OF CUAUHTEMOC. WANTED TO THANK THE COMMUNITY FOR SUPPORT OVER THE YEARS. OBVIOUSLY 80 YEARS IS A LONG TIME. WE HAVE AS YOU HEARD HELD COUNTLESS CELEBRATIONS, COMMUNITY SUPPORT EVENTS AND WE'VE ALSO SUPPORTED MANY LOCAL YOUTHS IN ACHIEVING THEIR GOALS BY OFFERING SCHOLARSHIPS. WE'D LIKE TO INVITE THE PUBLIC THAT'S EVERYONE TO OUR 80TH ANNIVERSARY DANCE CELEBRATION.
IT'S ALSO A SCHOLARSHIP FUNDRAISER.
2 BANDS, A DJ, SILENT AUCTION. WE'LL HAVE A RAVEL.
THAT WILL BE ON JULY SECOND AT 8 P.M.
WE'LL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY FOR DIRECT SCHOLARSHIP DOPATIONS AT THE DOOR AND IN THE BACK AT OUR BAR.
OF COURSE OVER THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS OUR ORGANIZATION HAS TAKEN A HIT BECAUSE OF THE PANDEMIC. NOW WE'RE BACK IN FULL SWING AND WE'RE REALLY REALLY WANTING TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE IN OUR COMMUNITY AND HELP OUR YOUTHS AND CONTINUE HAVING MORE COMMUNITY SUPPORT EVENTS. I DON'T KNOW IF HE'S STILL HERE.
I DON'T SEE HIM. WAS WANTING TO ALSO HAVE EVENTS WHERE WE'RE OFFERING COMMUNITY RESOURCES.
SO TEXAS WORK FORCE, WIC, EVERYBODY AND ANYBODY WE CAN HAVE THAT'S SOMETHING WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO AND BRINGING TO OUR HALL IN THE FUTURE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR HAVING
US AND THE PROCLAMATION. >> BEAUTIFUL AND THANK YOU.
WE ALREADY VOTED ON IT. WE MADE NO EDITS.
IT'S NOT A POKE. ANYONE INTERESTED IN BEING PART
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OF THIS PICTURE, PLEASE COME ON UP.>> JUST NOW I REALIZED, I DIDN'T REALIZE VIA TOLD ME THAT REST HIS SOUL HIS DAUGHTER IS CURRENTLY THE PRESIDENT OF CUAUHTEMOC AND I SERVED AS PRESIDENT DIRECTLY IMMEDIATELY AFTER HER FATHER. SO WE ARE ALL -- HERE ARE REMINDERS THAT WE'RE ALL TIED TOGETHER.
THIS IS COMMUNITY, GUYS. THE MORE WE WORK TOGETHER THE BETTER WE WILL ALL BE SERVING ONE ANOTHER.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE. THIS BRINGS US TO THE FINAL ITEM OF PRESENTATIONS AND PROCLAMATIONS AND GO STRAIGHT TO OUR WORKSHOP SO YOU'LL KNOW WHERE WE'RE AT AFTER THIS.
[F5. Update by Jude Prather, Veteran Services Officer, regarding Hope 4 Veterans Grant. SHELL/PRATHER]
PLEASE OPEN THE AGENDA NUMBER 5. >> UPDATE BY JUDE PRATHER R VETERAN SERVICES OFFICER, REGARDING HOPE 4 VETERANS GRANT.
>> IF YOU'LL PRESENT YOUR NAPE AND TITLE FOR THE PUBLIC.
>> JUDE OPERATINGER, I HAVE MICHELLE ROBINSON.
THE PROGRAM MANAGER FOR HOPE 4 HAYS.
IN 2019 OUR OFFICE APPLIED FOR A STATE GRANT THROUGH THE TEXAS VETERANS COMMISSION FOR 2 PURPOSES.
WE ARE A STAFF OF 3 FOR OUR OFFICE.
WE WANTED TO ADD AN ADDITIONAL STAFF MEMBER BUT ALSO FUNDS TO PROVIDE EMERGENCY ASSISTANCE FOR RENTAL ASSISTANCE AND UTILITY ASSISTANCE. THIS IS PRECOVID 2019.
WE APPLIED FOR THE GRANT. WE RECEIVED THE GRANT.
OUR FIRST YEAR WAS IN 2020 DURING COVID.
AND WE WERE SUCCESSFULLY ABLE TO COMPLETE THE GRANT AT THAT TIME.
SPEND 100% OF THE GRANT FUNDS ASSISTING VETERANS FAMILY MEMBERS AND WIDOWS WITH UTILITY ASSISTANCE.
WE WERE ABLE TO SERVICE 45 TOTAL.
41 VETERANS AND 4 SURVIVING SPOUSES.
THE FOLLOWING YEAR WE WERE ABLE TO BRING ON CHERYL ROBINSON.
CHERYL HAS BEEN WITH OUR OFFICE SINCE 2019.
SHE JUST RECENTLY GRADUATED WITH HER DEGREE IN SOCIAL WORK.
AND YOU ALWAYS HEAR OF CALIFORNIANS MOVING TO TEXAS BUT YOU RARELY HEAR OF TEXANS MOVING TO CALIFORNIA.
SHE JUST RECENTLY TOOK A POSITION THERE IN SAN DIEGO.
AND SHE'LL BE LEAVING OUR OFFICE.
HOWEVER AFTER COMPLETING THE SECOND YEAR OF THE GRANT SHE WAS ABLE NOT ONLY TO COMPLETE THAT SUCCESSFULLY SPEND NEARLY 100% OF THE FUNDS BUT ACTUALLY ABLE TO GET OUR GRANT INCREASED TO $150,000 FOR THIS THIRD YEAR. WE'RE LUCKY TO HAVE HER.
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LUCKY TO HAVE THIS PROGRAM. BUT ALSO PROVIDES COUNTY FUNDS TO HELP PEOPLE GET CAUGHT UP. I HAVE A BIG THANK YOU TO VICKI.SHE WAS INSTRUMENTAL ON GETTING THIS PROGRAM STARTED.
>> DON'T WE ALL. >> THANK YOU VICKI FOR HELPING US AND ALL THE FAMILY MEMBERS WE WERE ABLE TO HELP THROUGH THIS
PROGRAM. >> JUST A QUICK OVERVIEW, THE FIRST YEAR THEY MET ALL THE GOALS.
THIS YEAR WHICH OUR GRANT CLOSES THE 30TH OF JUNE, WE ARE MEETING ALL OF OUR GOALS THERE. WE HAVE SERVED 72 VETERANS WHICH INCLUDES SURVIVING SPOUSES, DEPENDENTS AND SPENT ALL THE MONEY THAT THEY GAVE US. WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO GO A LITTLE FARTHER NEXT YEAR AND I'M SURE WHOEVER DOES THE PROGRAM WILL BE AMAZING AT IT. WE EXPANDED THIS YEAR TO INCLUDE CAR PAYMENTS AND CAR INSURANCES WHICH AS WE KNOW WITH OUR VETERANS ESPECIALLY OUR HOMELESS VETERANS, THEIR CAR IS THEIR HOME. THAT IS A BIG HELP.
I THANK JUDE AND THE HOLE HAYS COUNTY.
IT'S BEEN AN AMAZING EXPERIENCE. >> WONDERFUL.
THANK YOU SO MUCH. I WILL ADD, JUDE, TO YOUR COMMENT ABOUT CALIFORNIA. YOU'RE GOING TO ONE OF THE MOST BEAUTIFUL PLACES SAN DIEGO. MY FIRST COUSIN DIED ACTIVE DUTY IN THE NAVY. AND HE WAS STATIONED OUT OF SAN DIEGO. WITH THAT, YES, MY FAMILY IS FROM CALIFORNIA. OVER 30 YEARS AGO I LIVED IN CALIFORNIA. I THINK AS IT COMES -- NOW THEY'RE LEAVING BECAUSE I WAS -- JUST KIDDING.
FORGET IT. BUT I -- I OFTEN HEAR PEOPLE SAY I KNOW YOU WERE JOKING. PEOPLE SAY CALIFORNIA, CALIFORNIA, BLAH BLAH BLAH. THE TRUTH IS IF ELON MUSK MOVES TO TEXAS, THE PEOPLE WHO WORK FOR ELON MUSK ARE MOVING WHETHER THEY LIKE IT OR NOT. OUR GOVERNOR IS SPENDING MILLIONS OF DOLLARS RECRUITING CALIFORNIANS.
LET'S NOT UNDO THE WORK OF THESE UNITED STATES.
AND I'M GRATEFUL THAT WE DIDN'T LOSE YOU TO ANOTHER COUNTRY.
YOU'RE STILL SERVING OUR AMERICAN CITIZENS IN OUR MILITARY. ANITA COLLINS IN MY OFFICE ALSO A NAVY VET. WE'RE SURROUNDED WITH PEOPLE SERVING IN WAYS. I TAKE EVERY OPPORTUNITY TO THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU AND YOUR OFFICE DOES FOR US.
YOU ARE A BLESSING AND I WISH YOU LUCK.
>> JUDE, WHAT A GREAT PROGRAM. AND THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH FOR ALL THE WORK THAT YOU HAVE DONE. VETERANS ARE EXTREMELY IMPORTANT TO US. EVERYBODY IS, JUDGE.
YOU KNOW, VETERANS JUST, YOU KNOW, PUT THEIR LIVES ON THE LINE TO SERVE OUR COUNTRY GIVE THE FREEDOM WE ENJOY TODAY. THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH FOR YOUR
WORK. >> DEFINITELY WANTED TO SHARE THE GOOD NEWS. 2 SUCCESSFUL YEARS, GOING ON A THIRD YEAR OF THIS PROGRAM. THAT ADDS A FULL TIME STAFF
MEMBER TO OUR OFFICE. >> THANKS, JUDE, I THINK WE HAVE ONE OF THE BEST VETERANS SERVICES OFFICE IN THE STATE OF TEXAS. LIKE INDIVIDUALS WHO STAND BEFORE US TODAY. WE'RE LOSING ONE.
I WISH YOU THE BEST IN YOUR NEW ADVENTURE.
>> SHE HAS FOND MEMORIES OF SAN DIEGO.
HER LATE HUSBAND WAS STATIONED THERE.
>> MY DAD WAS STATIONED THERE. MY DAD WAS NAVY AND MY HUSBAND
WAS ARMY. >> FOND MEMORIES OF THE PLACE.
HEY, I'M THINKING ABOUT MOVING TO CALIFORNIA AND WORKING WITH THE MILITARY POPULATION IN SAN DIEGO.
WE WERE GLAD THAT SHE WAS ABLE TO SHARE HER TIME AND TALENTS
WITH US. >> HUGE MILITARY POPULATION.
YOU'RE EXACTLY RIGHT. >> THE ONLY THING I WOULD ADD.
LOOKING AT THE BACKGROUND. ONE THING YOU DIDN'T MENTION YOU HELP VETERANS BUT ALSO SURVIVING SPOUSES AND INDEPENDENTS.
AS WE LOOK AT THE THIRD YEAR OF THE PROGRAM, IT IF ANYONE OUT THERE THAT'S A SURVIVING SPOUSE OR DEPENDENT, KEEP THAT IN MIND.
NOT YOU BUT THOSE WHO ARE LOOKING AT IT AND WE APPRECIATE
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YOUR WORK. >> CHERYL, MAY THE LORD CONTINUE TO BLESS YOU AND CONTINUE TO DO GOOD WORK IN OUR NATION NOW THAT YOU'RE LEAVING THE STATE. JUDE, ANYTHING ELSE.
THAT CONCLUDES OUR PRESENTATIONS AND PROCLAMATIONS.
[L1. Workshop regarding the Facility Workshop and Needs Assessment Report pursuant to RFP 2022-P02 - Animal Shelter and Animal Services Feasibility Study. SHELL/INGALSBE]
WE'RE GOING TO MOVE TO WORK SHOPS.>> L 1. WORK SHOP REGARDING THE FACILITY WORK SHOP AND NEEDS ASSESSMENT REPORT PURSUANT TO RFP2022-P02.
ANIMAL SHELTER AND ANIMAL SERVICES FEASIBILITY STUDY.
>> THANK YOU. GOOD MORNING JUDGE BECERRA, COMMISSIONERS INGALSBE, JONES, SHELL AND SMITH.
AN ANIMAL ADVOCATE AND WORKING WITH OTHERS TO COORDINATE THE NEWS HAYS COUNTY COMMUNITY CAT COALITION.
THANK YOU FOR THE WORK THAT YOU DO ON BEHALF OF THE RESIDENTS, COMMUNITY AND ENVIRONMENT OF HAYS COUNTY AND ESPECIALLY ALL THAT YOU'VE DONE FOR ANIMAL WELFARE IN THE COUNTY.
RIGHT NOW THE SAN MARCOS REGION ANIMAL SHELTER AND ALL THE OTHER NON-PROFIT RESCUES IN THE COUNTY ARE INUNDATED WITH DOGS, CATS, PUPPIES AND KITTENS, STRUGGLING TO MAKE ENDS MEET.
YET EVERY DAY THE FOLKS WHO WORK AT THESE ORGANIZATIONS PUT IN LONG HOURS AND GO THE EXTRA MILE FOR ANIMALS IN THEIR CARE.
VOLUNTEER THEIR TIME AND DOPATE RESOURCES TO ASSIST THEM IN THEIR EFFORTS. MANY OTHERS DO THIS INDEPENDENTLY, TAKING IN ANIMALS GETTING VETERINARY CARE, FINDING THEM LOVING HOMES AND REUNITING LOST AND FOUND PETS WITH THEIR FAMILIES. MANY OTHERS CARE FOR AND FEED COMMUNITY CATS. COMPASSION FATIGUE IS A REAL THING AMONGST THESE FOLKS. YET, GREAT THINGS ARE HAPPENING IN THE COUNTY. WE ARE HOPEFUL AND OPTIMISTIC.
WE APPRECIATE THE COURT'S SUPPORT OF THE ANIMAL SHELTER AND ANIMAL WELFARE FEASIBILITY STUDY.
ARE EXCITED TO HEAR AND SHARE THE FINDINGS AND ARE THAT DR.
SARA PASANO FROM TEAM USA ARE HERE WITH US TODAY.
STUDIES DEMONSTRATED THE HEALTHY RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN ANIMAL COMMUNITIES AND HUMAN COMMUNITIES.
THUS, WE URGE YOU TO SUPPORT THE HAYS COUNTY PET RESOURCES CENTER WHICH WOULD HAVE TREMENDOUS POSITIVE IMPACT ON COMPANION ANIMALS OF THE COUNTY AND THE PEOPLE WHO LOVE AND CARE FOR THEM. LET HAYS COUNTY BE NOT ONLY THE FASTEST GROWING COUNTY IN THE NATION BUT GROUND BREAKING PREEMINENT, NATION WIDE IN TERMS OF ANIMAL WELFARE.
WE STAND READY TO ASSIST IN THIS VITAL ENDEAVOR.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> BEAUTIFUL AND THANK YOU.
DID SOMEONE ELSE SIGN UP TO SPEAK ON THIS PORTION OR I'LL GO A STEP FURTHER BECAUSE OF THE FORMAT IS SOMEONE INTERESTED IN SPEAKING ABOUT THIS ITEM. NOPE.
COMMISSIONERS. >> THANK YOU, JUDGE.
THE COUNTY ISSUED THIS RFP SOMETIME AGO SUCCESSFUL RESPONDENT IS HERE NOW TO PRESENT THEIR FINDINGS INTO THE QUESTIONS THAT WE WANTED TO HAVE ANSWERED WERE HOW BEST TO HANDLE ANIMAL SERVICES IN THE FUTURE FROM OPERATIONS AND OBVIOUSLY FROM FACILITIES AS WELL. CURRENTLY THE CITIES OF KYLE AND BUTA, ALONG WITH HAYS COUNTY USE THE SAN MARCOS ANIMAL SHELTER.
WE HAVE AN WITH SAN MARCOS FOR THAT TO BE THE ANIMAL SHELTER IN THE COUNTY. IT WAS BUILT SOME TIME AGO.
NOT BUILT FOR THE GROWTH WE EXPERIENCED OVER THE LAST 10 YEARS. IT HAS BEEN A CHALLENGING TO MANAGE THAT FACILITY WHEN SO MANY ANIMALS ARE BROUGHT IN OUTSIDE OF THE CITY OF SAN MARCOS ALONE.
WE KNOW AS WE GROW, THE COUNTY IS GOING TO HAVE TO LOOK AT OTHER ALTERNATIVES OUTSIDE OF THE CITY OF SAN MARCOS ANIMAL FACILITY. THE CITY OF SAN MARCOS AGREES WITH THAT. THEY HAVE BEEN A GREAT PARTNER.
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IT HAS GOTTEN HARD TO MANAGE THE TYPE OF DEMANDS WE'RE SEEING IN OUR COMMUNITY. WE ASKED DR. PASANO AND HER TEAM TO LOOK AT HOW THINGS ARE WORKING THERE.REGARDLESS OF DECISIONS THE COUNTY MAKES AND OTHER DECISIONS IN HAYS COUNTY ON ANIMAL SHELTERS WE WILL BE UTILIZING THAT FACILITY FOR 3 MORE YEARS. THAT WAS AN ASK OF THE CONSULTANT TO LOOK AT HOW THAT FACILITY IS OPERATING NOW AND WHAT COULD BE DONE TO HANDLE THIS DEMAND IN A BETTER WAY.
THE OTHER ASK WAS IF ANOTHER FACILITY OR FACILITIES WERE GOING TO BE BUILT, WHAT WOULD THAT LOOK LIKE? WHERE COULD IT BE. WOULD IT BE MULTIPLE FACILITIES OR ONE FACILITY. WHAT TYPE OF SERVICES WOULD BE PROVIDED OUT THAT FACILITY. THAT'S INFORMATION WE'RE GOING TO PRESENT TODAY IS FINDINGS ON THOSE QUESTIONS.
WHAT ARE THE STEPS WITH THE COUNTY AND OTHERS WITHIN THE COUNTY UTILIZING THE SAN MARCOS FACILITY.
>> PERFECTLY SAID, COMMISSIONER. I ALWAYS -- I SAY THIS IN ALL CIRCLES AND SPACES NOT ASHAME OF IT IN ANY WAY.
YOU ARE ONE OF THE MOST ORGANIZED AND ARTICULATE COMMISSIONERS ON POINT BY POINT. AND I LOVE YOUR ENCAPSULATION
BECAUSE IT IS SPOT ON. >> JUDGE, YOU'RE CORRECT.
COMMISSIONER SHELL STATED IT GREAT.
I ENJOYED WORKING WITH DR. PASANO AND HER TEAM.
SHE WAS THE RIGHT DECISION, RIGHT CHOICE TO MAKE TO LEAD US THROUGH THIS. THANK YOU SO MUCH.
THERE WERE MANY OTHERS THAT PARTICIPATED THAT DR. PASANO.
SHE IS SO VERSED AND JUST FAMILIAR WITH SO MANY OF THESE ISSUES THAT WE'RE DEALING WITH AND HAS BEEN WITH IT FOR A VERY LONG TIME. AND SO SHE CERTAINLY DESERVES A LOT OF CREDIT FOR EVERYTHING SHE HAS DONE AND ALL HER INPUT.
THINGS THAT I DIDN'T IMAGINE TO ASK.
SHE'S SHARING HAS BROUGHT UP A LOT OF POINTS AND HELPED US THROUGH THIS FEASIBILITY STUDY. LOOK FORWARD TO THE PRESENTATION AND I'LL HAVE MORE COMMENTS AFTERWARDS.
>> BEAUTIFUL, THANK YOU. I TOO, BEFORE THE PRESENTATION.
WE DID A LOT OF LEG WORK BEHIND THE SCENES TO GET TO THIS MOMENT. I TOO WILL SUMMARIZE A SNIPPET.
IT HAS BEEN A BLESSING TO SEE HOW WE HAVE -- ALTHOUGH I KNOW THAT COMMUNITY SUPPORT IS STRONG AND IT IS LOUD AND CLEAR AND OF COURSE I THINK -- I WOULD ALMOST SAY MY PERSONAL FRIEND, THAT'S HOW I FEEL SHERRY BOYET. NOT MY PERSONAL FRIEND BUT IS MY FRIEND. YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? A MIXED BAG THE WAY I'M TRYING TO FRAME IT.
SHE IS BONIFIED LOOKING FOR BEATING HEARTS AND CARE FOR THEM IN A WAY THAT MOST DON'T THINK ABOUT, EVERY LOOK, ET CETERA.
AND EVEN THE REFRAMING OF THINGS WE DREAM, I HAVE TO GO BACK WITH THAT WORD IT IS SO IN HARMONY WITH THE RIGHT TO PROTECT THIS EFFORT. DR. PASANO AND MS. LEWIS ARE WORKING IN CONCERT FOR OUR PETS WHICH ARE PART OF OUR FAMILIES.
DR. PASANO WOULD YOU LIKE TO APPROACH THE PODIUM.
>> THOUGHT YOU'D NEVER ASK. THANK YOU JUDGE.
THANK YOU, COMMISSIONERS, AND THE SELECTION COMMITTEE.
THIS IS AN HONOR FOR TEAM SHELTER AND ANIMAL ARTS TO HAVE BEEN SELECTED FOR THIS EXCITING PROJECT AND FOR YOU ALL TO HAVE THIS AMAZING UNIQUE OPPORTUNITY ONCE IN YOUR CAREER TO ACTUALLY SET A SECTOR STRAIGHT. SO WE HAVE HEATHER LEWIS FROM ANIMAL ARTS AND I HAVE BEEN TRYING TO UNDO AND SO MANY OF US IN THE FIELD AN ANTIQUATED 150-YEAR-OLD ANIMAL WELFARE SYSTEM SET UP FOR FAILURE. WE GO IN AND TRY TO USE DUCT TAPE AND SUPER GLUE AND PATHWAYS FOR PEOPLE AND PETS.
BUT YOU HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE THIS RIGHT.
MAKE NO MISTAKE THIS IS A SOCIAL ISSUE.
THIS IS NOT JUST ABOUT PETS. THIS IS ABOUT PEOPLE.
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WHEN YOU LOOK AT -- YOU SPOKE ABOUT ELDERLY ABUSE EARLIER.THEY FOUND THAT THOSE PEOPLE THAT WERE RECEIVING FOOD FOR THEMSELVES WERE FEEDING THEIR PETS INSTEAD WITH THE FOOD THAT WAS MEANT FOR THEM AND GOING WITHOUT.
NUMBER 1, THIS IS A SOCIAL ISSUE WHEN YOU HELP PETS YOU HELP PEOPLE. NUMBER 2 THERE IS A MUCH BETTER WAY AND MORE FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE WAY FOR YOUR COUNTY TO DO ANIMAL WELFARE AND I CANNOT EMPHASIZE ENOUGH THE COMMUNITY SUPPORT, ADVOCATES AND NON-PROFITS IN YOUR COMMUNITY ARE ASTOUNDING. THAT YOU HAVE THEIR FULL SUPPORT. SO WE DID A LOT OF RESEARCH BEFORE OUR ON SITE VISIT. WE ALSO USED THIS -- THE BEST PRACTICE PLAY BOOK WHICH IS A BOOK THAT I PUBLISHED AS I FOUND WORKING IN TEXAS AND IN 24 STATES IN THE COUNTRY THAT ALL OF THE CHALLENGES THAT YOU FACE IN HAYS COUNTY ARE SHARED WITH EVERY OTHER COUNTY IN THE WHOLE COUNTY.
SO THE BEST PRACTICE PLAYBOOK IS YOUR REFERENCE.
I BROUGHT A COPY FOR COMMISSIONER SMITH AND COMMISSIONER JONES THAT I WILL GIVE TO YOU.
WE PRODUCED THIS REPORT THAT I PRINTED YESTERDAY.
UP UNTIL THEN I WAS LOOKING AT IT ON THE COMPUTER.
YES WE DID WRITE YOU A BOOK THAT IS VERY DENSE, IT'S TRUE.
BUT IT IS REALLY THE GENERAL FRAMEWORK, THE FIRST PART OF THE STUDY IS GUIDING PRINCIPLES. SHELTER INTAKE BIAS OF SEPARATING PETS AND PEOPLE. WHAT WE'RE RECOMMENDING IS QUITE THE OPPOSITE. HOW CAN WE HELP PETS AND PEOPLE IN A WAY OTHER THAN A SHELTER INTAKE WHICH I PROMISE IS EXPONENTIALLY MORE EXPENSIVE? WE HAD TO SPEND A LOT OF TIME AT THE SAN MARCOS SHELTER. WE HAD TO GIVE YOU A REALISTIC VIEW OF WHAT YOUR CHALLENGES ARE.
I CAN PROMISE YOU SAN MARCOS IS TRAPPED IN THAT TRADITIONAL ANTIQUATED SYSTEM. THERE IS GREAT OPPORTUNTY TO HELP PEOPLE AND PETS IN OTHER WAYS.
YOU SEE HOW I KEEP REPEATING THAT THEME.
IT IS VERY IMPORTANT. THE SAN MARCOS SHELTER HAS GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO HELP THOSE PEOPLE AND PETS IN DIFFERENT WAYS.
ONE IS THE COMMUNITY CAT PROGRAM.
I'M HOPING THERE WILL BE ORDINANCE PROVISIONS ON YOUR DESK SOON. THEY MAKE TOTAL SENSE.
THEY ARE SPOKEN AT LENGTH IN THE STUDY AND THE BEST PRACTICE PLAYBOOK FOR ANIMAL SHELTERS. WE TRIED TO PRESENT THE WAY THAT THIS NEW CAMPUS IF YOU WILL SHOULD OPERATE.
NUMBER 1 IS WHAT CAN YOU DO PROACTIVELY.
NUMBER 1 IN PHASE 1 SHOULD BE ACCESS TO CARE VETERINARY CLINIC. THAT OPEN DOOR MODEL IS ACTUALLY A NET PROFIT, VETERINARY HOSPITAL THAT CAN HAVE IS HIGH VOLUME SPAY, NEUTER PROGRAMS WITHIN IT.
WHY DO THAT FIRST. YOU ARE LACKING IN SPAY NEUTER CAPACITY AND ACCESS TO CARE IN YOUR COMMUNITY.
I WILL BE REACHING OUT TO YOUR LOCAL VETERINARIANS TO LET THEM KNOW ABOUT THIS MODEL. IT CAN BE RUN BY A NON-PROFIT OR A FOR PROFIT. AN ANIMAL SHELTER IS NOT IN THE EXPERTISE CATEGORY WITH MUNICIPALITIES.
SO THE RECOMMENDATION IS FOR YOU ALL TO OUTSOURCE THE OPERATIONS TO A NON-PROFIT. THE CLINIC COULD BE -- IT COULD BE A NON-PROFIT OR FOR PROFIT. WE SPOKE TO THE TEXAS ANIMAL CONTROL ASSOCIATION. THEY SAID THEY ARE INUNDATED WITH CALLS FROM MUNICIPALITIES ASKING THEM FOR NON-PROFIT PARTNERS TO RUN THEIR OPERATIONS AND THEY ARE UNABLE TO FIND THEM. WHY? 2 REASONS. MUNICIPALITIES HAVE TRADITIONALLY NOT FUNDED ANIMAL WELFARE APPROPRIATELY AND THOSE PARTNERSHIPS OFTEN BECOME TOO EXPENSIVE FOR THE NON-PROFITS TO DO ON THEIR OWN. THE NAME OF THE GAME IS PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIPS. WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE OPERATIONAL BUDGETS THAT WE'RE PROPOSING, REMEMBER THAT THESE ARE -- THOSE NUMBERS ALL CHANGE, THE MORE VOLUNTEERS WE HAVE, THE MORE SPONSORS WE HAVE, THE MORE PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIPS.
THESE ARE THE REALISTIC DOLLAR COSTS.
WHEN I SAY REALISTIC, WE CAME UP WITH THE STAFFING PROGRAMMING THAT WE'RE RECOMMENDING. BUT THERE IS NO BENCH MARK FOR
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WHAT IS THE IDEAL MUNICIPAL ANIMAL WELFARE BUDGET.IT DOESN'T EXIST. THIS IS HOT OFF THE PRESSES.
BEST FRIENDS ANIMAL SOCIETY AND HUMAN ANIMAL SUPPORT SERVICES ARE WORKING ON BUDGET SPREAD SHEETS WHEREBY YOU CAN PLUG IN NUMBERS AND GET A REALISTIC BUDGET NUMBER.
THAT'S FORTHCOMING IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF MONTHS WE'LL SHARE THAT WITH YOU. I SINCERELY HOPE THAT THIS PROJECT MOVES FORWARD QUICKLY. THE RECOMMENDATION SORRY YOU NEXT DO AN RFP FOR THAT SERVICE PROVIDER.
DECIDE ON THE NON-PROFIT. AND WE CAN HELP YOU WITH RECOMMENDATIONS. WE THINK THAT YOU HAVE A VERY QUALIFIED NON-PROFIT THAT COULD HELP YOU BUT FUND A PROJECT COORDINATOR TO START NOW SO THEY CAN WORK ON THIS PROJECT BETWEEN NOW AND THE RIBBON CUTTING BECAUSE THAT NON-PROFIT WILL HAVE A BIG STAKE IN WHAT THIS DESIGN LOOKS LIKE, WHAT THE PROGRAMS LOOK LIKE AND ALL OF THOSE THINGS.
I ENCOURAGE YOU TO DO THAT. I WANT HEATHER FROM ANIMAL ARTS TO SPEAK ABOUT LOCATION, CAPITAL COSTS, ET CETERA AND THEN ENTERTAIN ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE.
>> GOOD MORNING. IT IS STILL MORNING.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO WORK ON THIS STUDY, JUDGE AND COMMISSIONERS, WE APPRECIATE IT.
MY NAME IS HEATHER LEWIS. I'M AN ARCHITECT WITH ANIMAL ARTS OUT OF BOULDER, COLORADO. WE ALSO WORK IN CANADA AND OVERSEAS. I'M ALSO A UT GRAD.
THE NICE THING ABOUT THAT I KNOW WHAT THE WEATHER IS LIKE HERE IN CENTRAL TEXAS. THAT PLAYS INTO IT WHEN WE DESIGN A SHELTER. OUR FIRM IS ACROSS THE NATION HELPING OTHER COMMUNITIES ADDRESS THEIR ANIMAL CARE, ANIMAL WELFARE ISSUES. SO ANIMAL SHELTERS ARE VERY EXPENSIVE. VERY EXPENSIVE.
AND IF YOU HAPPENING ABOUT MOST COMMUNITIES THEY GET ONE WITHIN THEIR LIFETIME. WE DON'T GET A SECOND CHANCE.
SO WE TALK ABOUT THE OPERATIONS AND THE PROGRAMS FIRST BECAUSE YOU CANNOT BUILT A HOUSE TO SAVE A MARRIAGE.
YOU CANNOT. AS AN ARCHITECT I HAVE TALKED PEOPLE OUT OF BUILDING THINGS. WE NEED THESE PROGRAMS FOR PLACE BEFORE WE BUILD SOMETHING. BECAUSE WE WANT THE BUILDING TO LAST FOR DECADES TO LAST FOR THIS GENERATION AND BEYOND.
AND SO I'M GOING TO TALK JUST BRIEFLY ABOUT THE FACILITY PART OF THIS, ASSUMING WE MOVE FORWARD TO FACILITIES.
SOME OF THE CONTENT WITHIN THE STUDY VERY BRIEFLY.
AND OF COURSE WE'LL BE AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS.
THE FIRST WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT IS THE LOCATION OF THE FUTURE ANIMAL RESOURCE CENTER CAMPUS. WE RECOMMEND THAT THIS CAMPUS SERVES THE PEOPLE AND THEREFORE IS A PLACE WHERE POPULATIONS ARE DENSEST AND PREDICTED TO BE DENSEST.
WE NEED TO THINK ABOUT THE SOCIO ECONOMIC FACTORS IN TERMS OF WHO NEEDS THE SERVICES OF THE ANIMAL RESOURCE CENTER.
WITH THOSE FACTORS IN MIND THERE'S A CORRELATION BETWEEN ECONOMIC NEED AND WHETHER OR NOT AN ANIMAL IS BEING ADMITTED TO A SHELTER. THEREFORE WE RECOMMEND THAT THE SHELTER BE LOCATED IN A HEAVY URBANIZING AREA.
NORTH OF SAN MARCOS. WE WANT TO BE FURTHER AWAY FROM THE CURRENT REGIONAL SAN MARCOS ANIMAL SHELTER.
IN AN AREA PERHAPS AROUND KYLE. I'M BEING VAGUE.
THERE ARE MANY OTHER FACTORS THAT GO INTO LOCATION.
WE WANT TO LOOK AT THAT AREA OF HAYS COUNTY THAT IS GROWING RAPIDLY AND LIKELY TO GROW RAPIDLY IN TERMS OF POPULATION DENSITY. THE OTHER FACTORS THAT GO INTO CHOOSING A LOCATION ARE WE WANT PEOPLE TO VISIT THE SHELTER.
MANY SHELTERS HAVE BEEN LOCATED NEXT TO THE WASTE WATER TREATMENT PLANT OR OTHER FACILITIES THAT ARE NOT COMFORTABLE TO VISIT. WE WANT TO THINK ABOUT THE QUALITY OF THE LOCATION, THE SAFETY OF THE LOCATION AND THE ACCESS OF THE LOCATION. IDEALLY THE SHELTER IS NEAR PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION. AND OTHER FACTORS PLAY IN SUCH AS THE ZONING OF THE FACILITY. AS YOU ALL MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS PROJECT, ANIMAL ARTS IS AVAILABLE AND INTERESTED AND EAGER TO HELP YOU IN VETTING LOCATIONS.
MOVING ON TO THE DESIGN OF THE SHELTER.
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IT'S NOT DESIGNED YET. WE ANTICIPATE THAT THE SHELTER WILL HAVE TO BE DURABLE TO HOLD UP FOR THE NEXT MANY DECADES.YOU MAY HAVE LOOKED AT THE COST FACTORS IN THIS REPORT AND DONE THE MATH IN YOUR HEAD AND SAID THAT'S AN EXPENSIVE BUILDING.
LET ME TELL YOU. HAVE YOU LEFT A DOG UNSUPERVISED. THEY GET HOBBIES.
THOSE HOBBIES INVOLVE DISMANTLING ENCLOSURES.
ANG MALSHELTERS ARE LIKE HUMAN HOSPITALS BUT THE PATIENTS ARE PEEING ON THE FLOOR. THAT'S A LOT OF THE COST FACTORS THAT GO INTO SHELTERS. AS AN ARCHITECT I ALMOST NEVER TALK ABOUT ARCHITECTURE EVER. I TALK ABOUT WHETHER THE FLOOR DRAIN WORKS, WHETHER THE ANIMAL IS SAFE, WHETHER THE PERSON CAN DO DISHES APPROPRIATELY. AND HELPS YOU WITH THE RESOURCES YOU NEED. THE ULTIMATELY RECOMMENDED PROGRAM FOR THIS ANIMAL SHELTER IS AROUND 17,000 SQUARE FEET.
BETWEEN 17 AND 18,000 SQUARE FEET.
AND IN ADDITION A BUNCH OF EXTERIOR COVERED AREA THAT ADDS TO THE FOOTPRINT OF 6,000 SQUARE FEET.
WE WANT TO REDUCE THE AIR CONDITIONING LOAD IN CENTRAL TEXAS. THERE'S A LOT OF INDOOR OUT DOOR SPACE FOR ANIMAL. MOST IMPORTANTLY THE OPEN DOOR COMMUNITY ACCESS VETERINARY CARE AND SPAY NEUTER CLINIC.
IF YOU LOOK AT THE ANIMAL CAPACITY RECOMMENDED IN OUR FEASIBILITY STUDY, WE ARE RECOMMENDING AROUND 60 CANINE HOUSING UNITS AND 50 FELINE HOUSING UNITS.
IF I MAY MAKE AN ANALOGY NOTICE HOW HUMAN MEDICAL CARE OVER THE MANY DECADES. IF YOU HAVE A LOVED ONE WHO GOES INTO THE HOSPITAL, AS SOON AS THEY CAN GET UP AND AMBULATE THEY ARE OUT THE DOOR. WE WANT THE SAME THING FOR OUR PETS. THE SOONER THEY LEAVE OUR ANIMAL SHELTER AND GO INTO LOVING HOMES THE BETTER.
IT'S ABOUT WHAT WE DO TO MOVE THEM THROUGH AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE INTO LOVING HOMES. THE RECOMMENDED BUDGET FOR THIS IS 23.3 MILLION AND $2022. WE ARE EAGER AND EXCITED TO
ANSWER QUESTIONS. >> I KNOW THIS TOOK A LOT.
>> I WANTED TO ADD IN REALISTIC NUMBERS TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA ABOUT THE POWER OF SHELTER INTAKE, I WORK WITH ANOTHER SHELTER. A FEW YEARS AGO THEY TOOK IN 1200 CATS AND IN 2021 THEY TOOK IN 19.
THAT'S BECAUSE WE FIGURED OUT PATHWAYS TO HELP PEOPLE IN AN EFFECTIVE WAY. I HAD THE QUESTION HERE IN YOUR COMMUNITY. WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE HOW BIG THE SHELTER IS WITH RESPECT TO NUMBERS.
YOU'RE BUILDING A DIFFERENT BUILDING.
YOU MAY HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT THE SIZE THAT WE'RE PROPOSING.
THAT'S WHY. NOT JUST THE NUMBERS COMING IN
BUT THE LENGTH OF STAY. >> THAT'S WHERE I WAS GOING TO GO FIRST. TO COMPARE AND CONTRAST THE CURRENT CAPACITY IN OUR COUNTY FACILITY ULTIMATELY THE PARTNERSHIP AND THE ONE YEAR PROPOSING AND THAT SIZE DIFFERENCE. I KNOW THAT ANSWER.
I OFTEN ASK QUESTIONS FOR THE PUBLIC TO UNDERSTAND WHERE WE ARE SO THEY CAN BE BROUGHT UP TO SPEED.
AND PROGRAMS, I THINK IS ONE OF THE KEY PIECES, TRAP, NEUTER, RETURN. THERE ARE SO MANY THINGS THAT ARE NECESSARY FOR US TO BUILD A SMALLER FACILITY THAT ALLOW US TO BUILD A SMALLER FACILITY BECAUSE IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE SEE IT AS ALL THE OPTIONS THAT WE COULD DO.
AND THEN WHENEVER YOU COMMENT ON THAT, I ALSO LEARNED, I WAS DESCRIBING SOMETHING THAT I WANTED TO SEE THAT YOU TOLD ME OH, YOU'RE DESCRIBING THE HAAS PROGRAM.
I'M EXCITED TO LEARN THAT THERE WAS A PROGRAM THAT I THOUGHT WAS MY IDEA. MAYBE YOU COULD TALK ABOUT THOSE
THE BEST PRACTICE PLAYBOOK WELL.
EVERYTHING IS OUTLINED TO ACCOMPLISH WHAT I'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT. AT THE SAN MARCOS SHELTER, AGAIN TRAPPED IN THE ANTIQUATED PROGRAMMING, AND THE CITY OF SAN
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MARCOS FOR EXAMPLE ALLOWS FOR -- I'M GOING TO TALK ABOUT CATS FIRST. IN THE CITY OF SAN MARCOS THEY'RE ALLOWED TO STERILIZE AND PUT THE CATS RIGHT BACK.STERILIZING IS GOING TO ELIMINATE NUISANCE COMPLAINTS, ENFORCEMENT COMPLAINTS GOES DOWN.
UNINCORPORATED HAYS COUNTY KYLE AND BUTA DON'T ALLOW FOR THAT IN THEIR ORDINANCES. THE GET STUCK PART IS WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT THE LENGTH OF STAY.
WITH DOGS THERE'S GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO ENGAGE NEIGHBORS WITH NEIGHBORS. MOST NEIGHBORS ARE FINDING THEIR NEIGHBORS DOGS AND GETTING THEM BACK HOME.
THERE'S GREAT OPPORTUNITY. OF COURSE WE REPORT THE COUNTY FUNDING THE MICROCHIP CLINICS. THAT IS REGISTERED MICROCHIPS GETS DOGS HOME IN PARTICULAR. CATS ARE NEVER LOST.
THEY FIND THEIR HOME OR ANOTHER HOME.
TWO THINGS, SAFETY NET. CAN WE HELP YOU? WHEN I WAS PUBLIC DIRECTOR SHELTER HELPER IN 2005 WE NEVER HELPED PEOPLE WHAT COULD WE DO TO KEEP YOUR PET.
WE WERE EUTHANIZING FOR SPACE BACK THEN.
WE DON'T ANYMORE. WE'RE JUST JUDGING PEOPLE.
I WAS IN THAT POOL OF PEOPLE. I'M GOING TO JUDGE YOU, IF YOU'RE GOING TO LEAVE A PET AT A SHELTER, YOU OBVIOUSLY DON'T CARE. STUDY AFTER STUDY SHOWS PEOPLE JUST NEEDED TEMPORARY HELP. THEY REALLY DID WANT TO KEEP THEIR PETS. WE NEVER ASKED THE QUESTION.
SAFETY NET IS A HUGE AREA OF OPPORTUNITY FOR THE SAN MARCOS SHELTER. THEY DEFINITELY NEED MORE STAFF THAT'S FOR SURE. THESE PATHWAYS, HOW CAN WE HELP PEOPLE AND PETS OUTSIDE THE SHELTER.
WE HAVE TO HAVE A PLAN OF ACTION.
WE HAVE TO HAVE A SYSTEM. THIS IS ABOUT DISCIPING SYSTEMS. WE HAVE A SYSTEM THAT DEFAULTS TO SUCCESS AND SHORT LENGTHS OF STAY. ARE WE WELCOMING THE PUBLIC? ARE WE DOING EVERYTHING WE CAN TO REUNITE DOGS WITH THEIR FAMILY? CATS WE'RE GOING TO RETURN THEM HOME THROUGH THAT PROGRAM. ALL OF THOSE THINGS WE KNOW THERE ARE SUCCESSFUL SHELTERS DOING THIS.
I WAS AT A SHELTER WITH A RETURN TO OWNER RATE OF 50%.
ANOTHER ONE A RETURN TO OWNER RATE OF DOGS OF 80%.
THE NATIONAL AVERAGE IS 22%. THAT TELLS YOU IT CAN BE DONE.
THINK ABOUT THE PROGRAM DESIGN. THAT'S GOING TO CREATE YOUR MOST EFFECTIVE RESPONSIBLE BUDGET FOR THIS PROJECT FROM EVERY ANGLE.
THE CAPITAL COSTS AND OPERATIONAL COSTS.
>> I WANT TO TAKE THIS TIME. THE CITY OF SAN MARCOS IS MY HOME TOWN. IT IS WHERE I RAISED MY FAMILY KINDERGARTEN THROUGH COLLEGE. IT IS ALL THE BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS I'VE SERVED ON PRETTY MUCH, BUT I DON'T WANT ANYONE SEEING THIS OR HEARING ABOUT THIS TO TAKE IT AS A SNUB ON THE CITY OF SAN MARCOS IN ANY WAY.
>> NO. >> HEAVEN FORBID SOMEONE TAKE THAT APPROACH. IT'S EASY TO DIVIDE US AS A PEOPLE. AND IT'S EASY TO CAUSE FEAR AND ANGER. THE MOST IMPORTANT THING IS WE ARE A PART OF OUR LOCAL FACILITY AND ALL THE HARDSHIPS AND DIFFICULTIES THEY ARE DEALING WITH.
THAT'S WHY WE ARE HERE TODAY AS A COURT.
WE ARE HERE TO SUPPORT NOT ONLY THE CITY OF SAN MARCOS.
PLEASE DON'T TAKE IT AS AN ATTACK OF THE CITY'S MANAGEMENT OF A FACILITY. THEY ARE DOING THE BEST THEY CAN WITH WHAT THEY HAVE. AND THERE ARE -- I'LL SAY IT AGAIN, THERE ARE STAFFING SHORTAGES EVERYWHERE.
AND IT'S JUST A TOUGH CORNER THEY'RE IN.
THESE ARE SUGGESTIONS TO MOVE US TO PROPEL US INTO A NEW DIRECTION IN MANY WAYS. PLEASE DON'T TAKE THIS PRESENTATION AS A JAB ON ANYTHING CITY OF SAN MARCOS
RELATED. >> I WANTED TO THANK MANAGER REYES AND HER TEAM DOWN TO THE SHELTER STAFF THAT WE MET WITH AND APPLAUD SHERRY AND NICKY FOR ALL THE INVOLVEMENT.
EVERYBODY WANTS TO SUPPORT THE SHELTER.
OUR RECOMMENDATIONS ARE THAT TO HELP SUPPORT THEM.
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>> A KEY PART OF WHAT I'M DOING -- I'M SORRY COMMISSIONERS IF I'M HOGGING THE QUESTIONS. GOOD.
I KNOW THAT A KEY FOR THIS PROCESS OF MODERNIZING THE WAY WE CARE FOR PEOPLE AND PETS UNFORTUNATELY IT'S A NECESSIY, TIED TO POLICY. I KNOW THAT WE MUST UNIFY AND GALVANIZE BEHIND UNIVERSAL WAYS THAT WE MANAGE OUR PETS.
I KNOW LEGISLATION PASSED, YOU CAN'T TETHER OR CHAIN YOUR PETS.
I KNOW ONE OF OUR EFFORTS IS IN UPDATING POLICY.
THE REVISIONS OF OUR COUNTY WIDE BASICALLY EFFORTS.
I WANTED TO SEE IF YOU CAN SPEAK ON THAT FOR A RECORD.
>> JORDAN HAS THE RED LINE ARE REVISIONS THAT I DID FOR HAYS COUNTY. THEY'RE INCLUDED IN THE REPORT AS WELL FOR UNINCORPORATED HAYS, FOR KYLE, AND BUTA AS WELL.
WE DISCUSSED THOSE AND ALL THE CITY MANAGEMENT BETWEEN THE TIME WE WERE HERE AND UP TO RECENTLY. SO MANY -- AND THERE'S A CHART IN THIS FEASIBILITY STUDY THAT'S A CHEAT SHEET FOR YOU, SO YOU CAN SEE WHAT'S RECOMMENDED IN EACH OF THE MUNICIPALITIES.
SO THE MAJOR ONE IS GOING TO BE AROUND THAT COMMUNITY CAT ISSUE.
OVER 1700 FELINES WENT INTO THE SHELTER LAST YEAR MANY WITH NO PATHWAYS. THEY'RE STUCK IN THE SHELTER.
THE STAFF DOESN'T WANT TO UTHINIZE.
NOW THE CITY IS SPENDING MORE MONEY.
THEY MIGHT ASK YOU FOR MORE MONEY.
HOUSING CATS IN A CONDITION THAT'S STRESSFUL FOR THEM.
NOW STAFF GETS BIT. YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT WORKMANS COMP. IT'S AN AVALANCHE OF CONSEQUENCES. AS I HELP MUNICIPALITIES IN TEXAS AND ALL OVER THE UNITED STATES WHEN WE REVISE THOSE ORDINANCES AND GET THOSE PROGRAMS IN PLACE WHAT HAPPENED THAT SHELTER WENT FROM 1200 TO 1900 CATS A YEAR THAT CAN HAPPEN HERE AS WELL. THERE NEEDS TO BE A SPAY NEUTER PATHWAY. YOUR CAPACITY IS AN ISSUE AS WELL. NICKY AND SHERRY AND I HAVE BEEN MEETING WITH A GROUP OF NON-PROFITS HERE TO FORM A COMMUNITY CAT COALITION IN THE HOPES THAT A CONSTITUENT IN YOUR COUNTY CALLS THAT HOTLINE OR SEES THAT INFORMATION ON A WEBSITE OH, HERE'S WHAT I DO. HERE'S THE RESOURCES.
HERE'S THE PATHWAY. THIS ALLOWS FIELD SERVICES AND ALL THE FIELD SERVICES WITH HAYS WITH KYLE AND BUTA AND SAN MARCOS TO FOCUS ON PUBLIC SAFETY.
WHICH IS WHAT YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO DO.
NOT BE A CAT TAXI. THAT'S WHY THOSE REVISIONS ARE SO CRUCIAL. I FIND OVER AND OVER THERE'S MANY, WHEN I STARTED AS A PUBLIC SHELTER DIRECTOR MY ORDINANCES HADN'T BEEN LOOKED AT IN 30 YEARS.
WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE OUR ORDINANCES ARE IN LINE WITH PUBLIC POLICY. THIS IS HAPPENING ALL OVER TEXAS. ALL OVER THE COUNTRY.
NOTHING OUT OF THE NORM. >> BEAUTIFUL AND THAT GOES INTO THE SHELTER DIVERSION EFFORT. YOU SAID IT.
THE AIM IN ALL OF THIS IS THE TRAP NEUTER RELEASE, RETURN.
THANK YOU. I GET THOSE MIXED UP.
>> RETURN TO THEIR HOME LOCATION.
>> RETURN. SHERRY CORRECTS ME EVERY TIME.
SHE WAS NODDING IN THE AUDIENCE. LOVE YOU.
WONDERFUL. SHE IS A TRUE PET LOVER.
>> I KNOW THAT THESE PROGRAMS HELP US TO SAVE MONEY.
THE BOY SCOUTS SAID DON'T CALL MYSELF A CHEAP SKATE.
I'M A FISCAL CONSERVATIVE. IT'S THE BETTER FIRVINGAL WAY TO DO THESE PROGRAMS SO WE'RE NOT HOUSING PETS THAT ARE TRAPPED AND THERE'S NO WAY OUT. I JUST LOVE THAT.
YOU DIDN'T GET TO TALK ABOUT THE HAAS PROGRAM IN MY OPINION
2018 I WROTE THE PLAYBOOK AGAIN IN LINE WITH THESE I DESCRIBED TO YOU. TO GET ANIMALS OUT.
AND AT THE BEGINNING OF THE PANDEMIC QUITE HONESTLY THE NATIONAL EXPERTS WERE -- WE WERE ALL LIKE DEERS IN THE HEAD LIGHT. IS COVID CONTAGIOUS TO ANIMALS?
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WE DIDN'T KNOW IN THE SPRING OF 2020.SO WE ALL STARTED GETTING ON THESE CALLS THAT WERE ULTIMATELY SPONSORED BY MADDIE'S FUND AND THE HUMAN ANIMAL SUPPORT SERVICES WAS BORN OUT OF THAT. THIS IS NATIONAL EXPERTS WORKING ON ALL OF THESE TOOLKITS AND VERY DETAILED INFORMATION IF YOU WANT TO GO DOWN A RABBIT HOLE THERE IS ENDLESS INFORMATION.
IT'S REFERRED TO OVER AND OVER AGAIN IN A STUDY.
THAT IS SIMPLY LET'S SEE HOW WE EMPOWER OUR COMMUNITY.
WHEN WE PUT MICROCHIP SCANNERS IN FIRE STATIONS AND POLICE STATIONS THAT ARE OPEN 24 HOURS THAT PERSON WHO FOUND THE DOG AT 11:00 AT NIGHT CAN GET THAT DOG HOME.
HOW DO WE HELP PEOPLE EITHER KEEP THEIR PETS OR PLACE THEIR PETS. THIS IS BETTER FOR THEM.
BETTER FOR THE PETS. BETTER FOR THE BOTTOM LINE.
IF THEY'RE COMING INTO THE SHELTER IT BETTER BE A FEAR FREE ENVIRONMENT. IT IS AN INCARCERATION IN A LOT OF PLACES. TO NO FAULT OF MYSELF INCLUDED.
WE LOVE AP MALS. WE'RE SHELTER WORKERS.
WE'RE OPEN ADMISSION PEOPLE. THEY'RE IN A CAGE.
THEY'RE IN CONFINEMENT. WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THEY HAVE THE RIGHT ENRICHMENT IN THE SHORTEST LENGTH OF STAY.
THAT'S WHAT THE HAAS MODEL IS ABOUT.
ALMOST EVERY EXPERT HAS CONTRIBUTED TO THAT MODEL AND THE TOOLKITS AND THE RECOMMENDATIONS.
IT'S A ONE STOP SHOP FOR ALL THE INFORMATION.
>> BEAUTIFUL. COMMISSIONER INGALSBE, COMMENTS
QUESTIONS. >> I DO HAVE COMMENTS AND QUESTIONS. I'D LIKE OUR COMMISSIONERS THAT WEREN'T INVOLVED IN THE STUDY TO SPEAK FIRST AND GIVE THEM AN OPPORTUNITY TO ASK THEIR QUESTIONS.
>> YOU ANSWERED EVERY QUESTION I HAD.
I APPRECIATE IT. >> THANK YOU.
>> I HAVE A LOT OF QUESTIONS. AND I KNOW WE SPOKE THIS WEEK.
WHENEVER WE GOT THE REPORT LAST WEEK FROM THE OFFICE, I HAD REAL CONCERNS OVER THE FACT THAT THE STUDY ITSELF ONLY FOCUSED IN MY VIEW AND I MADE THIS ASSUMPTION WHENEVER WE SPOKE, BUT I'VE DELVED INTO THE REPORT ALL 128 PAGES OR 22 PAGES OF IT.
SPECIFICALLY TO THE LACK OF -- I DON'T WANT TO SAY ANY REFERENCE BUT MINIMAL REFERENCE WHATSOEVER TO THE WESTERN PART OF THE COUNTY. WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT WORKING OR SITTING DOWN AND EVEN DOING THE INTERVIEWS WITH CITIES, DRIPPING SPRINGS WAS NEVER DONE OR AT LEAST NOT REFERENCED IN HERE.
AS A COURT WHENEVER WE TALKED ABOUT THIS WAS THE NEED FOR A FACILITY ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE COUNTY.
AS I LOOK AT THE REPORT IT PROVIDES GREAT JUSTIFICATION FOR A NEW FACILITY ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE COUNTY.
IT DOESN'T ADDRESS THE WEST SIDE AND IT'S -- THAT'S WHERE I THINK IT'S REALLY LACKING. THE OTHER THING I WOULD SAY THE FTES IN HERE. I KNOW THIS IS A PIE IN THE SKY IF WE GOT EVERYTHING WE WANTED TO LOOK AT IN A FACILITY.
I HAVE A REAL CONCERN THAT THE FTES IN HERE, YOU'VE GOT 63 RECOMMENDED FTES THAT'S MORE PEOPLE WORKING OUR TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT TODAY. WE HAVE 40% OPENINGS IN OUR TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT. THE MASSIVE STAFFING, THE LACK OF REGIONALIZATION FOR THE COUNTY HAS A CONCERN TO ME.
AND AS FAR AS BEING PHYSICALLY -- FISCALLY CONSERVATIVE LOOKING AT SERVICES THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL.
ON A PROGRAMMING SIDE I DISAGREE WITH WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT FOR PROGRAMMING. THE ACTUAL FACILITY YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT A DELTA OF OVERALL COST OF 22-- PARDON ME $23.61 MILLION. I'M NOT SURE WHAT OUR OVERALL COSTS ARE RIGHT NOW. SOME OF OUR COMMISSIONERS ON THAT BOARD MAY BE ABLE TO TELL YOU WHAT OUR ACTUAL COST IS BUT EXPONENTIALLY HIGHER THAN WHAT WE'RE DOING RIGHT NOW.
AND I DO -- I HAVE A LOT OF CONCERNS OVER HOW -- NUMBER 1, I UNDERSTAND THAT THE SOCIO ECONOMICS PLAY INTO IT AND THAT THE MAJOR GROWTH ON THE 290 CORRIDOR -- THE AVERAGE
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HOUSEHOLD INCOME IS HIGHER. WE PROBABLY WON'T SEE AS MANY ANIMALS THERE. BUT EVEN IN YOUR REPORT YOU REFERENCE SOMEWHERE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF 1700 PETS THAT WERE PART OF THE LOCAL VOLUNTEER PROGRAM THERE, PAWS PROGRAMTHERE. >> PAWS, RIGHT AND THAT'S 2
LOCATIONS. >> THAT'S MY CONCERN IS REALLY THE FOCUS ON ONLY ONE SECTOR OF THE COUNTY WHEN WE AS A COURT SPECIFICALLY SAID WE WOULD LIKE TO LOOK AT THAT AS AN OPTION.
IT'S NOT REFERENCED HERE AND AS I READ THE REPORT OVER ALL AND THIS IS JUST MY -- AGAIN, THIS IS MY TAKE FROM READING IT, THE REPORT APPEARS TO BE INSTEAD OF NOT JUST AN OVERALL ASSESSMENT OF WHAT THE NEEDS IN THE COUNTY ARE, IT'S AN ASSESSMENT OF THE NEEDS IN A PARTICULAR AREA OF THE COUNTY.
IT'S MORE SO A JUSTIFICATION FOR BUILDING A FACILITY WHEREBY AND I'M -- THIS MIGHT BE AN ASSUMPTION, WHEREBY YOUR ORGANIZATION AND ANOTHER ORGANIZATION HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO DESIGN AND GO IN AND DO THAT FACILITY.
THIS IS THE JUSTIFICATION FOR IT.
THAT'S WORRISOME TO ME. DOES THAT MAKE SENSE?
>> UNDERSTOOD. A COUPLE OF THINGS AND I'LL LET HEATHER ALSO ADD HER COMMENTS. WE DID MEET WITH PAWS AND THUNDERING PAWS. AND RIGHT NOW PAWS DOES TAKE DOGS FOR THE DAY BEFORE THEY GO TO SAN MARCOS.
THEY'RE ALREADY PARTNERING WITH YOU.
THAT IS A WAY TO CAPITALIZE ON THE DRIPPING SPRINGS LOCATION.
THE 1700 INTAKE IN PAWS THAT'S BETWEEN THE KYLE AND DRIPPING SPRINGS LOCATIONS. THERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO EXPAND. HEATHER ALLUDED TO THE FACT OF WHY ANIMAL SHELTERS, THE COST PER SQUARE FOOT IS SO MUCH HIGHER. YOU'D BE LOOKING AT AN EXPONENTIAL COST TO BUILD A SECOND LOCATION.
WHEN THE NEED -- THE POVERTY RATE IS DRIVING SHELTER INTAKE AND DRIVING NEED. SAN MARCOS HAS ALMOST 20%.
AND THE REMAINDER OF HAYS COUNTY IS UNDER 14%.
SO THE MODEL RECOMMEND SIDE TO HAVE THAT REGIONAL CENTER WHERE IT'S NEEDED MOST, WHERE WE'RE RECOMMENDING.
SERVICES FOR EXAMPLE SUBSIDIZED SPAY NEUTER IF YOU HAVE PEOPLE QUALIFIED LIVING SOCIO ECONOMIC DISADVANTAGED THERE'S TRANSPORT PROGRAMS, A VAN PICKS UP THE PET AND SHUTTLES THEM BACK AND FORTH. RATHER THAN SPENDING 550 A SQUARE FOOT ON ANOTHER FACILITY. WE DID PUT A LOT OF THOUGHT INTO THAT. I'LL LET HEATHER MAKE SOME
COMMENTS AS WELL. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE COMMENTS AND QUESTIONS. AND TRUST ME, MY ANXIETY PEAKS WHEN WE TALK HOW MUCH A SHELTER COSTS.
I DON'T WANT IT TO COST THAT MUCH EITHER.
WHEN WE THINK ABOUT FISCAL RESPONSIBILITY THAT'S VERY MUCH IN MIND FOR OUR FIRM AND FOR WHAT WE RECOMMEND FOR THE STUDY.
PART OF THE IDEA WITH THIS IS I THINK THE TREMENDOUS GROWTH THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN IN HAYS COUNTY.
AND THAT IS THE REASON WHY A FACILITY MAKES SENSE.
BECAUSE WE KNOW THE CURRENT SITUATION AT SAN MARCOS REGIONAL ANIMAL SHELTER IS NON TENABLE IN THE LONGER TERM.
WHEN WE THINK ABOUT TREMENDOUS HUMAN POPULATION GROWTH THAT IS WHY WE'RE RECOMMENDING THAT THE SHELTER BE IN THE MIDST OF THAT GROWTH AREA. WE RECOGNIZE THE DIFFICULTY OF GETTING OUT TO DRIPPING SPRINGS AND OTHER WESTERN PORTIONS OF THIS COUNTY. I FACE THE SAME PROBLEM IN A COUPLE OF OTHER COUNTIES. I'LL GIVE A COUPLE OF EXAMPLES.
ONE IS FULTON COUNTY IN ATLANTA GOING CRAZY WITH GROWTH.
EXTRAPOLATE WHERE WE ARE IN CENTRAL TEXAS AND IMAGINE THAT GROWTH TENFOLD. AND THEY HAVE THE SAME CONCERNS ABOUT REACHING THEIR CONSTITUENTS.
HOWEVER THE CURRENT LOCATION FOR THE NEW FULTON COUNTY ANIMAL SHELTER IS SMACK IN THE MIDDLE OF WHERE IT CAN GET TO THE FOLKS WHO NEED THE HELP THE MOST WHERE IT CAN ACCESS THE COMMUNITIES THAT NEED THE HELP. AND WE ARE ADDRESSING THE ACCESS TO THE OTHER PARTS OF FULTON COUNTY BY LOOKING AT DRIVE TIMES
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AND ENSURING THEY'RE NOT WAY TOO LONG.THAT'S PART OF THE IDEA OF LOCATING THE SHELTER SLIGHTLY NORTHERN OF THE COUNTY IS GETTING OUT OF THE TRAFFIC JAMS THAT OCCUR SO WE CAN GET OUT TO THE WEST SIDE.
AND THE OTHER EXAMPLE IS PALM BEACH COUNTY IN FLORIDA.
THEY HAVE PROBLEM ACCESSING THE WESTERN SIDE OF THEIR COUNTIES IN FLORIDA. AND WE ARE STILL LOCATING THE NEW SHELTER IN THAT AREA RECEIVE GROWTH AND THAT AREA OF ECONOMIC NEED. AND IT MAKES SENSE IN TERMS OF ACCESS TO THE OTHER AREAS IN TERMS OF DRIVE TIME.
THOSE WERE ALL THE THINGS THAT WENT INTO THIS STUDY.
I RECOGNIZE AND HEAR ALL OF WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
THE COST PER SQUARE FOOT STRESSES ME OUT TREMENDOUSLY.
THIS SHELTER WILL NOT BE BUILT AGAIN FOR THE NEXT 4 DECADES.
IT IS A DURABLE PRACTICAL FACILITY THAT WE'RE
RECOMMENDING. >> AS FAR AS THE STAFFING.
63FTES IS A LOT OF FTES TO SAY THE LEAST.
LOOKING AT THE AVERAGES. MOST OF THEM WOULD BE 112S OR HIGHER. I KNOW WE'RE GOING THROUGH A STAFFING ANALYSIS RIGHT NOW. SORRY OUR HR ISN'T HERE.
I'D LOVE TO KNOW LOOKING AT THAT WHERE THEY WOULD RANK AS FAR AS STRUCTURE. OUR STAFFING - BECAUSE THAT -- I MEAN THE -- I THINK I HAD A FOLD UP A SECOND AGO WITH THE OVERALL STAFFING COSTS FOR THE FACILITY. I MEAN YOU'RE TALKING PROBABLY OVER ABOUT 5 MILLION A YEAR. ALMOST 5 MILLION A YEAR JUST FOR
STAFFING. >> THAT WOULD BE TOTAL OPERATIONAL A YEAR. LIKE 35, 3-5 FOR STAFFING AND ADDING ANOTHER PERCENT. SO 45 OPERATIONAL A YEAR.
>> THOSE ARE SEPARATE. THAT'S ON THE NEXT PAGE.
REMEMBER THE OPEN DOOR IS GOING TO GENERATE A NET PROFIT.
THOSE WOULD BE COVERED. SO THE SPAY NEUTER SUBSIDY AND THE SPAY NEUTER STAFFING WOULD HAVE TO BE COVERED.
AGAIN, THIS IS SOMETHING YOU WORK OUT WITH THE NON-PROFIT IN TERMS OF SPONSORSHIP, PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIPS, DONATIONS AND SUCH. WHICH ISRA REALLY HOW THE MOST SUCCESSFUL ANIMAL WELFARE PROGRAMS OPERATE.
>> DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA OR ANY CONCEPT OF WHAT -- IF WE HAD EXPECTATIONS FOR NON-PROFITS TO PAY THAT DO YOU HAVE AN IDEA OF WHAT THEIR INTAKE IS AS FAR AS FUNDING.
>> LIKE IF THERE'S NO BENCHMARK. NO PLACE YOU CAN GO TO SAY WHAT IS THE IDEAL BUDGET FOR WHETHER IT'S A PRIVATE OR PUBLIC SHELTER. THAT'S WHAT BEST FRIENDS AND AMERICAN PETS ALIVE IS DOING INDEPENDENTLY.
WE HAD COME UP WITH PROJECTIONS INDEPENDENTLY AND MET WITH AMERICANS PETS ALIVE AND COMPARED THEIR DATA TO OURS AND WE WERE RIGHT IN LINE. I CAUTION YOU TO LOOK AT NEARLY ANY OTHER SHELTER. I DON'T KNOW OF -- THERE'S VERY FEW PUBLIC SHELTERS OPERATING INDEPENDENTLY WITHOUT NON-PROFIT PARTNERSHIPS, I DON'T KNOW ANY THAT ARE FUNDED APPROPRIATELY.
SOMETIMES I HAVE FELTERS OR OPERATIONS LOOK AT ANOTHER SHELTER. THEY DID X.
THEIR BUDGET IS X. THEY DON'T HAVE THE PROGRAMMING IN PLACE AND ALL OF THAT. THIS IS WHAT WOULD SUPPORT THE PROGRAMS THAT WE'RE RECOMMENDING AND A 7 DAY A WEEK OPERATION.
>> WELL, I THINK YOUR RECOMMENDATION IS ACTUALLY FITTING SINCE I KNOW THAT YOU'RE NATIONWIDE, I GET IT.
WE ARE OFFICIALLY THE FASTEST GROWING COUNTY IN THE NATION OF POPULATIONS OVER 100,000. THIS IS INEVITABLITY.
WE COULD KICK THE CAN DOWN THE ROAD OR CREATE SOMETHING.
YOU DIDN'T PUT A PIN ON A MAP BUT SOMETHING MORE CENTRALIZED.
IT SHOULD BE MORE ACCESSIBLE FURTHER NORTH.
I'M THE COUNTY WIDE REPRESENTATIVE UP HERE.
I AGREE WITH ACCESS 100%. I KNOW WITH THIS ECONOMY AND EVERYTHING GOING ON THERE'S SO MUCH IN THE AIR.
YOU'VE DONE EVERYTHING YOU CAN DO WITH WHAT WAS ASKED OF YOU.
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I KNOW THIS IS INEVITABILITY. GOD WILLING, I WILL DIE IN THIS COMMUNITY. I WILL LIVE HERE FOR A LONG TIME. I KNOW THIS IS COMING.IT IS A FACT. IT IS AN INEVITABILITY.
I KNOW THE LONGER WE WAIT THE MORE EXPENSIVE IT WILL GET.
I KNOW THERE ARE PLACES BIG OLD CHEAP SKATE.
THERE ARE PLACES WHERE THAT'S A LOT OF MONEY.
THERE ARE PLACES WE SAY IT COSTS MORE MONEY DOING THE WAY WE HAVE BEEN. IT IS DISRUPTIVE TO ALL LIVES AFFECTED. WHETHER A CAT LOVER OR DOG LOVER. I'M A DOG LOVER.
WE MUST DO EVERYTHING WE CAN WHILE WE HAVE THE ACCESS TO THE POTENTIAL TO TAP INTO ARPA FUNDS.
THAT'S ONE SOURCE THAT COMES TO MIND.
I'M A FAN OF PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIPS BECAUSE THEY HELP TO GIVE THE COUNTY AN EFFICIENCY EDGE THAT THE PRIVATE SECTOR WILL ALWAYS HAVE A TENDENCY TOWARDS.
AND SO PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIPS, YOU'RE PROVIDING A BROAD STROKES SCHEMATIC. THERE IS SO MUCH TO DO MOVING FORWARD. I BELIEVE WHOLEHEARTEDLY THAT WE HAVE A SINCERE NEED. I'M GLAD THE COMMISSIONERS AGREE WE HAVE THIS NEED. LIKE YOU I HOPE WE DON'T END UP
PUTTING IT ON THE SHELF. >> I WOULD FEEL REMISS IF I DIDN'T ADDRESS ONE THING YOU JUST SAID.
I WOULD OPPOSED TO USING ARPA FUNDS ON THIS, WHEN WE DEDICATED THEM TO EACH PRECINCT. THE FACT IS THE MAJORITY OF MY PRECINCT WASN'T EVEN REVIEWED IN MY REPORT.
THAT'S A PROBLEM FOR ME. >> YEAH.
>> LET ME FINISH IF YOU WOULD. MY CONCERN WHEN WE LOOK AT THIS, THIS TRULY WAS TO BE A COUNTY WIDE EVALUATION OF WHAT THE NEED WAS AND HOW WE ADDRESS THE NEEDS WITHIN THE COUNTY.
AND LOOKING AT IT BEST CASE FOR THE MAJORITY OF MY PRECINCT IT WAS LET THEM KEEP DOING WHAT THEY'RE DOING.
THAT'S A PROBLEM FOR ME. AND MAYBE I'M WRONG IN SAYING THAT. BUT I STILL HAVE HIGH EXPECTATIONS FOR WHAT WE SHOULD EXPECT FROM THIS.
AND I -- I WILL TELL YOU AND I SHARED THIS WITH YOU ALL.
IT'S A CONCERN TO ME THE FIRST DAY I WAS APPROACH BODY THIS WAS WHENEVER WE GOT THE FINAL REPORT.
WHENEVER WE WERE ACTIVE IN OUR CONVERSATION RELATIVE TO COURT.
THE SECOND LARGEST IN MY CURRENT DISTRICT OR MY CURRENT PRECINCT WASN'T EVEN CONTACTED ABOUT THIS.
THAT'S A PROBLEM FOR ME. AND SO THOSE ARE THE REASONS THAT I HAVE -- I HAVE A REAL PROBLEM SUPPORTING THIS ESPECIALLY WITH THE PRICE TAG ASSOCIATED WITH IT.
I UNDERSTAND THE NEED AND I SUPPORT THAT WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING. WHILE I THINK THE REPORT HAS A LOT OF GOOD INFORMATION IN IT I HONESTLY THINK IT'S COMPLETE.
THAT'S WHAT MY CONCERNS ARE. >> A LOT OF GOOD POINTS BROUGHT UP. ONE THING TOO WE'RE NOT DECIDING
>> RIGHT NOW. AND THE INFORMATION IS VALUABLE.
WHAT ARE OUR OPTIONS? WHY DO WE NEED TO DO ANYTHING WOULD BE THE FIRST QUESTION? THE CITY OF SAN MARCOS HASN'T TOLD US WE CAN'T BRING OUR ANIMALS TO THE SHELTER.
I DON'T WANT ANYONE TO THINK THAT HASN'T HAPPENED.
AND FOR THE MOST PART THOSE ARE THE ONLY ENTITIES THAT HAVE ANIMAL CONTROL SERVICES. THAT'S WHY THOSE ARE THE ONES THAT CONTRACT WITH THE SHELTER. EVERYTHING ELSE IS CONSIDERED COUNTY, WHETHER IN A CITY OR NOT IN A CITY IF THEY DON'T HAVE ANIMAL SERVICES. HAYS COUNTY OFFICERS RESPONDING TO CALLS EVERYWHERE, EXCEPT THE CITY LIMITS OF KYLE, BUTA AND SAN MARCOS. WILL THE CITY OF SAN MARCOS TELL US WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING. THAT IS FAIR TO SAY FROM A CAPACITY STANDPOINT. THAT SHELTER PROBABLY WASN'T DESIGNED TO HANDLE A WHOLE COUNTY BACK IN THE DAY.
AND DEFINITELY NOT GOING TO HANDLE THE WHOLE COUNTY.
THE CITY OF SAN MARCOS HAS BEEN A GOOD PARTNER IN SAYING AS LONG AS THERE'S MOVEMENT ON FINDING ALTERNATIVE SOLUTIONS.
WE HAVE BEEN PAYING MORE EACH YEAR, I ASSUME THE REQUEST FOR
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THAT WILL GO UP AS IT IS. AT SOME POINT WE AND OTHERS IN THE COUNTY NEED TO HAVE ALTERNATIVES FOR ANIMAL SERVICES. THAT'S ONE TAKE AWAY THAT'S A FACT. HOW IT'S DONE ARE OPEN FOR DISCUSSION. WE HAVE INFORMATION HERE.I KIND OF AGREE WITH TRYING TO FIND SOMEONE WHO WOULD SAY WE WOULD OPERATE SOMETHING LIKE THIS AND SAY THIS IS HOW MUCH STAFF IT WOULD TAKE TO OPERATE. THIS IS HOW WE WOULD STAFF IT.
THAT WOULD BE VALUABLE. SOMEONE WHO SAYS WE HAVE EXPERIENCE RUNNING A SHELTER OF THIS SIZE.
HERE'S WHAT WE WOULD EXPECT YOU TO NEED OVER THE NEXT 30 YEARS AND HOW COULD YOU GROW -- HOW COULD YOU GET SOMETHING THAT WOULD PROVIDE AN ALTERNATIVE TO A CITY SHELTER.
IT MAY BE REASONABLE TO THINK THAT THE CITY SHELTER WOULD BE SOMEWHAT REGIONAL. UP TO THE CITY OF SAN MARCOS AND PARTNERS. FOR INSTANCE IF WE PICK UP AN ANIMAL IN AN UNINCORPORATED AREA NEAR SAN MARCOS WOULD WE WANT THAT ANIMAL TO GO TO A SHELTER THAT IS CENTRALLY LOCATED? AGAIN THOSE ARE SOME THINGS THAT I THINK STILL HAVE TO BE DISCUSSED. AND THEN THE OTHER CITIES THAT OPERATE ANIMAL SERVICES NEED TO BE PART OF THAT DISCUSSION AS WELL. THEY'RE IN THE SAME SITUATION WE ARE WITH THE CITY OF SAN MARCOS. WILL THE CITY OF SAN MARCOS CONTINUE TO TAKE THOSE ANIMALS. SO I THINK ANOTHER NEXT STEP MIGHT BE TO HAVE MORE FORMAL DISCUSSIONS WITH THE CITIES THAT DO PROVIDE ANIMAL SERVICES TO SEE WHAT THEY BELIEVE THE OUTLOOK IS. AND WHETHER THEY ARE GOING TO CONTINUE TO ASK THE CITY OF SAN MARCOS TO PROVIDE THE SERVICE.
IF THEY'RE GOING TO DO IT ON THEIR OWN AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE. OR INTERESTED IN ANOTHER REGIONAL ANIMAL SHELTER. IF SO WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? THEY WOULD BE PART OF FUNDING AND HAVE TO PAY FOR OPERATIONS TOO IF THAT WAS THE CASE? THE NEXT STEPS WOULD BE TO FIND SOMEONE THAT WOULD SAY THIS IS WHAT IT WOULD SCOST TO OPERATE THIS FACILITY THAT HAS THIS CAPACITY.
AND TALK WITH OTHER CITIES IN THE COUNTY AND TALK TO THOSE THAT DON'T PROVIDE ANIMAL CONTROL SERVICES TO SEE WHAT THEY BELIEVE IS IN THEIR FUTURE? IS IT GOING TO BE SOMETHING THEY ARE GOING TO RELY ON THE COUNTY TO DO? AND HOW BEST TO SOLVE THOSE PROBLEMS? PAUL MENTIONED SINCE THEY HAVE 2 FACILITIES TO CONTINUE THAT DISCUSSION WITH THEM TO SEE WHERE THEY FIT IN A TYPE OF AGREEMENT. ESPECIALLY IF A NEW FACILITY SOME DAY WERE TO BE BUILT, YOU KNOW, 20 OR 30 MILES FROM AN EXISTING FACILITY LIKE PAWS IN HENRY THAT COULD BE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR RESIDENTS IN THAT AREA WHICH DID NOT INVOLVE TRANSPORTING AN ANIMAL IN THAT TIME FRAME.
AND I THINK AS WE DISCUSS THAT WITH OUR -- THE CITIES OF THE COUNTY IS TRY TO GET AN UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT THEY ARE CONTRIBUTING TO THE SHELTER NOW, WHICH WE HAVE THAT DATA TO SEE WHAT THEIR GROWTH RATES LOOK LIKE.
WE UNDERSTAND THERE ARE AREAS THAT ARE GOING TO GROW FASTER LIKELY ALONG THE CORRIDOR. THE 290 CORRIDOR IS EXPERIENCING EXTREME GROWTH. HOW TO ADDRESS, A BIG PIECE OF THIS IS ADOPTION. HOW DO YOU GET THE TIME OF AN ANIMAL THAT ISN'T GOING TO BE RETURNED TO THEIR OWNER.
I THINK THERE'S A LOT THAT CAN BE DONE IN THE WESTERN PART OF THE COUNTY. I STILL BELIEVE THAT IT'S VERY LIKELY THAT SOMEONE IS LOOKING TO ADOPT AN ANIMAL LIVING IN THE DRIPPING SPRINGS AREA PROBABLY COMMUNITYING WITH ENTITIES IN AUSTIN MORE THAN THEY ARE WITHIN HAYS COUNTY WHICH YOUS THE STRESS ON OUR SHELTER. WE'VE MISSED A LARGE FAST GROWING POPULATION ADOPTING ANIMALS, THEY'RE GETTING THOSE ANIMALS FROM OTHER SHELTERS. WE'RE MISSING THE BOAT.
HOW DO WE BUILD THOSE RELATIONSHIPS WITH THOSE COMMUNITIES? AND GET THE ADVOCATES TO GET THE ANIMALS OUT OF HERE AS FAST AS POSSIBLE?
>> I'D LIKE TO PROVIDE CLARIFICATION AS WELL.
ON THE FACILITY RECOMMENDED HERE.
JUST FOR THOSE WHO HAVEN'T NECESSARILY PICKED IT UP, IT DOESN'T REPLACE ANY FACILITY WE HAVE IN THE COUNTY.
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IT WOULD SUPPLEMENT THOSE FACILITIES.IF ANYBODY WOULD CONSIDER THAT THIS FACILITY WOULD TAKE THE PLACE OF OR TAKE THE CAPACITY OF ANY OF THE EXISTING FACILITIES THAT ARE THERE. THIS ANTICIPATES THAT EACH ONE OF THOSE STAY IN OPERATION. IT WOULD BE A SUPPLEMENT TO THAT ON TOP OF THAT. CORRECT.
I WANTED TO CLARIFICATION THAT. >> COMMISSIONER SHELL, YOU NAILED IT. YOU'RE RIGHT.
PSB IS A MODEL THAT COMES TO MIND.
OUR PSB IS BASICALLY WE HAVE A SHARED -- I DON'T WANT TO TAKE THIS TOO LONG. WE HAVE A SHARED DISPATCH SYSTEM WHERE ALL THE DIFFERENT MUNICIPALITIES PITCH IN FINANCIALLY AND BENEFIT FROM THE ASSET WE CREATED.
IT'S OF COURSE COMBINED RESPONSE IS ALWAYS THE MORE WE COME TOGETHER THE MORE EFFICIENT WE ARE.
FINANCIALLY IN THIS LANE IT WILL ALWAYS BE OF GREAT BENEFIT FOR US TO TAP EACH CONTRIBUTING MUNICIPALITY TO PARTICIPATE.
THIS IS NOT SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD ASSUME TO CARRY ON OUR BOOKS 100%. I WOULD VENTURE TO SAY IT WOULD ALMOST BE DISINGENUINE FOR ME TO PROMOTE IT THAT WAY.
THIS IS A COMMUNITY EFFORT, COMMUNITY SUPPORT.
IT WOULD BE WE'RE ALL IN THIS TOGETHER PHILOSOPHY MENTALITY INCLUDING FUNDING AND SUPPORTING SYSTEMS IN PLACE.
AND UPDATING AND MODIFYING THE WAY WE DO THINGS.
WE HAVE GREAT EXAMPLES OF US COMING TOGETHER AS A COUNTY.
WE'VE SEEN IT 100 TIMES. IT'S BENEFITING US.
COME TOGETHER AND WE ALL BENEFIT.
COMMISSIONER INGALSBE YOU HEARD FROM ALL THE COMMISSIONERS.
>> THANK YOU, JUDGE. JUST A COUPLE OF THINGS TO THE COMMENTS THAT COMMISSIONER SMITH MADE.
I THINK WE'RE NOT AT THE OINT WHERE WE'RE CHOOSING A LOC.
WE'RE OPEN TO WHERE THAT LOCATION IS GOING TO BE.
WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IT BEING MORE CENTRALLY LOCATED.
WANT ACCESSIBILITY TO EVERYONE IS VERY IMPORTANT.
WE HAVE AMPLE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK WITH OTHER GROUPS OR CITIES OR WHOEVER IT IS THAT NEEDS TO BE SPOKEN WITH.
WE CAN PROVIDE THAT OPPORTUNITY FOR DR. PASANO AND HER TEAM TO SPEAK WITH THEM IF NEEDED. A COUPLE OF THE THINGS THAT COME TO MIND. I HAVE MY OPINION ON WHETHER WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS OR NOT BUT THE ORDINANCE REVISIONS.
IT'S EXTREMELY IMPORTANT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THOSE.
WE WORK BETTER WHEN EVERYTHING IS CONSISTENT.
WE'LL PROBABLY BE BRINGING OUR ORDINANCE REVISIONS TO COMMISSIONER COURT SOON. I LOOK FORWARD TO THAT.
AS MENTIONED THE PROGRAMS ARE ESSENTIAL WHAT WE ADOPT AS OUR PROGRAMS TO ENSURE THAT THE PETS AREN'T STAYING IN THE FACILITIES ANY LONGER THAN THEY NEED TO. THAT CAN DECREASE AND SAVE MONEY AT THE SAME TIME. AND REUNITING PETS WITH THEIR OWNERS. WE'RE HELPING PETS -- WHEN YOU'RE HELPING PETS, YOU'RE HELPING PEOPLE.
MANY TIMES AND EVEN WITH THE ELDERLY THAT PETS ARE SO IMPORTANT TO THEM. AS THEY LIVE THEIR LAST YEARS THAT THEY KEEP THEIR COMPANIONS FOR THEM.
AND REALLY I HEAR KEEP THEM ALIVE MAYBE LONGER THAN IS EXPECTED. BUT, JUDGE, A FEW THINGS THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IS ARE WE GOING TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS PROJECT. I KNOW WE'RE NOT MAKING ANY DECISIONS AT ALL TODAY. I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT THAT WE DO. WE SPENT THE TIME, EFFORT, MONEY TO GET US TO THIS POINT. WE'VE IDENTIFIED OUR NEEDS AND ALTHOUGH THE CITY HAS BEEN GRACIOUS IN THEIR PARTNERSHIP WITH US AS COMMISSIONER SHELL HAS MENTION SIDE, THEY ARE ALSO IN A SITUATIN WHERE THEY NEED THE SPACE TO PROVIDE ADEQUATE SERVICES TO THEIR PETS WITHIN THE CITY.
I AGREE WE NEED TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS SOON.
AND THEN WE ALSO HEARD ABOUT WHO IS GOING TO RUN THE CENTER WHEN IT GETS TO THAT POINT. I BELIEVE THAT IT'S BEEN IDENTIFIED THAT A NON-PROFIT IN MOST CASES WORKS BEST FOR THIS TYPE OF SITUATION. I HOPE WE WILL STRONGLY LOOK INTO THAT. AS WE MOVE FORWARD WE CAN MAKE THOSE DECISIONS. THE PROJECT MANAGER, WHETHER WE HIRE A PROJECT MANAGER WITH OTHER CAPITAL PROJECTS, EXPENSES THAT WE'VE HAD, BUILDINGS, THE GOVERNMENT CENTER FOR 1, THE PSB
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PROJECT MANAGER HAS WORKED EXTREMELY WELL.IT'S THERE. IT'S GOOD TO HAVE SOMEBODY THAT HAS OUR INTEREST IN MIND, RIGHT. IT CAN SAVE US A LOT OF MONEY.
IT DID WITH THE GOVERNMENT CENTER.
IT SAVED US MILLIONS OF DOLLARS TO HAVE SOMEONE LOOKING OUT FOR OUR INTERESTS. THOSE ARE THINGS THAT NEED TO BE DISCUSSED AS WE MOVE FORWARD. A LOT OF INFORMATION AS I SAID HAS BEEN GIVEN TODAY. THERE'S A LOT TO CONSIDER.
AND I'M -- I JUST APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY THAT I'VE HAD WORKING WITH MY COLLEAGUE COMMISSIONER SHELL ON THIS PROJECT AND LOOK FORWARD TO THE NEXT STEPS AS WE CONTINUE TO
>> COMMISSIONERS, MAY I ADDRESS A COUPLE OF NEXT STEPS AS WELL IN TERMS OF THE FACILITY PLANNING AND THIS WILL ADDRESS COMMISSIONER SMITH'S CONCERN AROUND THE COST.
A LOT OF COUNTIES MOVE FORWARD WITH A LOOKING FOR LAND.
SO WE HAVE LAND IDENTIFIED FOR WHATEVER THIS PROJECT MAY BE.
EVEN IF THE PROJECT IS CONTINUED TO BE VETTED.
HAVING THE LAND MYSTERY TAKEN OUT OF IT WILL HELP WE'LL HAVE THINGS ABOUT HOW EXPENSIVE THE UTILITIES ARE TO THE THE SITE FOR EXAMPLE. A LOT OF THINGS ARE BALLPARK RIGHT NOW. THE OTHER THING IS PRELIMINARY DESIGN WHICH CAN BE FURTHER COST ESTIMATED.
I'VE BEEN DOING THIS FOR 22 YEARS.
I CAN TELL YOU THAT HELPS A LOT. THEN YOU HAVE BETTER VALIDATION OF THIS BIG ROUND NUMBER, NOT A ROUND NUMBER, THE BIG NUMBER.
AND IT ALSO HELPS UNDERSTAND IF THERE'S SOME EFFICIENCIES.
AND WHAT I DON'T WANT TO HAPPEN IN THIS AREA OF VERY DIFFICULT TO BUILD TIMES WE'RE IN RIGHT NOW WITH TREMENDOUS LABOR SHORTAGE AND MATERIAL ESCALATION I DON'T WANT TO BE WROPPING ON THE LOW SIDE. IF WE MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO THE COUNTY OF HAYS AND IT COMES BACK AND IT'S MORE EXPENSIVE.
THAT'S QUITE A RESPONSIBILITY TO BEAR.
WE THOUGHT ABOUT THE EXPENSIVE NATURE OF THESE FACILITIES AND DONE SIMILAR ESTIMATING TO OTHER FACILITIES IN TEXAS.
THE NICE THING ABOUT THAT THAT PARTICULAR PROCESS IS NOT VERY EXPENSIVE AND GIVES YOU A LOT MORE INFORMATION.
I WANTED TO MAKE THAT SUGGESTION AS A FUTURE NEXT STEP.
>> IN YOUR ESTIMATE YOU BUILT IN -- LOOKING AT THE REPORT CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG YOU BUILT IN A 6% COST INCREASE YEAR OVER YEAR.
>> THE CRYSTAL BALL AS WE KNOW IT NOW.
IT'S A MURKY CRYSTAL BALL. THIS YEAR AND NEXT YEAR WILL BE 6% ESCALATION WHICH IS HIGHER THAN IT HAS BEEN OVER THE LAST YEAR. 20 WHICH IS RIDICULOUS.
IT'S AFFECTED OUR OTHER PROJECTS INCLUDING HERE IN TEXAS.
MOVING FORWARD IS A BIT MORE NORMALIZED.
AFTER A COUPLE MORE YEARS WE HOPE IT WILL STABILIZE.
THAT ASSUMES THAT THE FACTORS OF THE WORLD DON'T CONTINUE TO EXACERBATE IT. THERE'S A NOTE IN HERE AROUND ESCALATION. RELATIVELY CONSERVATIVE LANGUAGE
AROUND THAT RIGHT NOW. >> COMMISSIONER SMITH, ANYTHING
ELSE. >> YOU WERE BEHIND THEM.
>> YES, SIR PLEASE. >> MY NAME IS SHERRY BOYET.
I WANTED TO REMIND THE COURT, THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION TO THIS. I WANT TO REMIND THE COURT ESPECIALLY COMMISSIONER INGALSBE OF WHAT YOU SAW IN YOUR TOUR.
THE SHELTER IS IN A CRISIS SITUATION.
THIS CAN'T BE DELAYED. YOU'VE USED THE WORD INEVITABILITY SEVERAL TIMES TODAY.
AND WE'VE LACKED VISION IN DELAYING MOVING FORWARD ON THIS.
PLEASE DON'T DELAY AND THOSE CAGES ARE STACKED EVERYWHERE.
IN THE BATHROOM, IN THE HALLWAYS IN THE OFFICES, AND THE ANIMALS ARE NOT GETTING THE CARE THEY NEED.
AND THE STAFF IS NOT GETTING THE CARE THEY NEED.
I'VE BEEN SPEAKING AT THIS PODIUM FOR OVER 20 YEARS.
BUT THEY'RE STACKED UP THERE. I INVITE YOU TO PLEASE GO OVER THERE. WEAR YOUR BLUE JEANS AND CUT
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OFFS SO THEY DON'T KNOW WHO YOU ARE.WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT THIS SOONER THAN LATER.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. IF THERE'S NOTHING ELSE WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON TO THE NEXT AGENDA ITEM.
>> THANK YOU. >> WE'RE GOING TO MOVE TO A
[K2. Discussion and possible action to authorize partnership with Pet Prevent A Litter (PALS)to hold four pet microchip clinics throughout Hays County not to exceed $3,880.00 and amend the budget accordingly. BECERRA]
SIMILAR ITEM THE MICROCHIP. CAN YOU OPEN K2.>> K2. DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO AUTHORIZE PARTNERSHIP WITH PET PREVENT A LITTER OR PALS TO HOLD 4 PET MICROCHIP CLINICS THROUGHOUT HAYS COUNTY NOT TO EXCEED $3880 AND AMEND THE BUDGET ACCORDINGLY.
>> MOTION AND A SECOND. NO COMMENTS PLEASE CALL THE
>> CAN WE HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT THIS BEFORE WE VOTE ON IT?
>> I'M SORRY WHAT'S YOUR QUESTION?
>> I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A DISCUSSION PRIOR TO VOTING ON IT. WE DON'T KNOW WHERE THE MONEY IS COMING FROM. I'D LIKE TO HEAR FROM THE AUDITORS OFFICE NUMBER 1. NUMBER 2, I'D LIKE TO ADDRESS THE PACKET I DON'T KNOW HOW THE LOCATIONS WERE SELECTED.
AGAIN, THERE'S NOTHING IN DRIPPING SPRINGS.
CAN WE HAVE A DISCUSSION BEFORE WE VOTE ON SOMETHING.
>> WHAT I WILL DO FIRST. THANK YOU FOR ALL THE COMMENTS.
WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO FIRST IS OFFER SOMEONE FROM PALS TO APPROACH THE PODIUM. STATE YOUR NAME AND TITLE AND
SHED LIGHT ON THAT QUESTION. >> I HAD A COMMENT ON THE WHOLE
-- >> JUST NAME AND TITLE FIRST.
>> I'M SORRY. MY NAME IS KELLY KEENAN I LIVE IN BUTATEXAS. WE SERVICE CENTRAL TEXAS BUT MAINLY HAYS COUNTY WITH OUR PROGRAMS. I HAD -- I HAD SIGNED UP TO MAKE A COMMENT.
WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO DO THAT FIRST OR ADDRESS THE QUESTIONS
FIRST. >> I MAY HAVE OVERLOOKED IT.
I'M SORRY. UNLESS IT MAKES SENSE TO DO YOUR
>> DO THE ADDRESSING AT THE MOMENT.
>> OKAY. SO WHEN WE DECIDED THAT WE REALLY WANTED TO SUPPORT THE SAN MARCOS REGIONAL ANIMAL SHELTER BY MICROCHIPPING AS MANY PETS AS POSSIBLE.
SHAGGY DOG MARKET IS EXTREMELY SUPPORTIVE OF RESCUE GROUPS AND ANIMAL WELFARE IN THE COUNTY. THEY WERE IMMEDIATELY ON BOARD.
WE REACHED OUT TO BROOKSHIRE BROTHERS AND THEY WERE SUPPORTIVE AS WELL. AND OF COURSE WE HAVE OUR MONTHLY LOW COST VACCINATION AND MICROCHIP CLINIC AT OUR PALS LOCATION IN SAN MARCOS. I WOULD LOVE TO DO MORE.
THAT IS ONE OF THE REASONS WE REACHED OUT FOR FUNDING.
WE'D LIKE TO DO SOME IN JULY AS WELL.
I WOULD LOVE TO PARTNER WITH YOU.
>> COMMISSIONER, ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS FOR HER
WHILE SHE'S AT THE PODIUM. >> THANK YOU FOR ADDRESSING THAT. MY CONCERN AGAIN IS IF WE WANT TO DO THIS DO IT ON AN OVERALL BASIS NOT A PIECEMEAL BASIS THESE ARE 4 WE CAN DO RIGHT NOW. I WOULD LOVE TO HEAR FROM THE AUDITORS OFFICE. THERE'S NOT A PAY FOR HERE.
>> WHILE SHE'S AT THE PODIUM ARE THERE QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM
OTHER COMMISSIONERS. >> NO THE AUDITORS OFFICE OFFERED CONTINGENCY A COMBINATION OF COMMUNITY PROGRAM EXPENSES. WE COULD MAKE THAT DECISION IF THIS IS SOMETHING WE WANT TO GO FORWARD WITH.
WE HAVE HAD -- WE DID HAVE SOME PRIOR TO WHEN COVID REALLY STOPPED PUBLIC GATHERINGS. WE HAD SUCCESSFUL ONES OUR SHERIFF'S OFFICE PUT TOGETHER. THAT'S ANOTHER OPTION WE CAN DO TO SUPPLEMENT THIS. I KNOW WE HAD ONE IN WIMBERLY THAT WAS VERY HIGHLY ATTENDED. SOMETIMES IT'S THE CITY OF SAN MARCOS THEY PROVIDED THE MICROCHIPS THROUGH THE AGREEMENT THEY HAD TO PURCHASE THEM. OUR SHERIFF'S OFFICE PUT THAT ONE ON. THE SHELTER BROUGHT ADOPTABLE ANIMALS TO BE THERE. IT WAS VERY WELL ATTENDED.
THAT'S ANOTHER OPTION TO SUBOR IN ADDITION TO
WHAT PALS IS OFFERING. >> MY QUESTION IS ONE WAS 2 DAYS
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AGO THAT WE WOULD BE PAYING FOR. ONE IS TOMORROW.AND THEN THIS WEEK AND THE FOLLOWING WEEK.
HOW DID THE ONE THAT WAS 2 DAYS AGO WORK? WAS IT SUCCESSFUL? WHERE WAS THE LOCATION? ALL OF THOSE THINGS AND HOW ARE WE PAYING FOR IT IN RETROSPECT?
>> SHELLY. >> WE HAVE A MONTHLY LOW COST VACCINATION AND MICROCHIP WITH THE PALS IN SAN MARCOS.
WITH THE SPAY AND NEUTER PROGRAM WE HAVE MICROCHIPS ON HAND TO MICROCHIP ANIMALS THAT WE FIX. WE HAVE A SUPPLY OF MICROCHIPS FOR THAT. AND WE DID DO IT BY DONATION.
WE HAD A NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT WERE ABLE TO ALSO DONATE.
>> SO ARE WE PAYING FOR A SERVICE THAT'S ALREADY BEING
DONE BY YOU ALL? >> THIS IS A NEW SERVICE.
GOING OUT INTO THE COMMUNITY INTO THE DIFFERENT LOCATIONS TO REACH MORE PEOPLE THAN JUST OUR ON SAN MARCOS LOCATION.
>> KELLY, CAN YOU CLARIFY THE JUNE 19TH THAT WAS HELD.
HAS THAT BEEN PAID FOR OR ARE WE LOOKING TO PAY FOR THAT SERVICE THAT WAS DONE ON JUNE 19TH?
>> WHEN WE CAME UP WITH THE IDEA TO DO THESE CLINICS, WE WERE HOPEFUL THAT WE WOULD BE ABLE TO SECURE SOME FUNDING.
SO THE WAY THAT WENT, I WOULD SAY THAT WE HAVE -- WE WERE ABLE TO FUND THAT OURSELVES. WE WOULD LOOK TO OBTAIN MORE --
>> IF EVERYTHING PANS OUT AND GETS FUNDED YOU GRAB THAT PREVIOUS DATE AND MOVE IT TO A FUTURE DATE.
>> BECAUSE OF THE FOURTH OF JULY AND THE AMOUNT OF PETS THAT GO MISSING, WE WERE TRYING TO MOVE AS FAST AS POSSIBLE ON THIS.
>> IF THAT WAS PAID FOR, JUDGE, IS THERE A LOCATION IN DRIPPING
SPRINGS THAT WE COULD -- >> WE COULD USE PRECINCT 4
OFFICE. >> IS THAT A GOOD IDEA FOR YOU TO USE A PRECINCT 4 OFFICE FOR THE ONE THAT JUST PASSED TO USE A PROPELLED SHAKE AND BAKE RICKY BOBBY MOVER FORWARD TO THE NEXT
ONE. >> ALL WE NEED IS ACCESS TO A ROOM TO BRING CATS INSIDE AND WE TYPICALLY CAN CHIP THE DOGS
OUTSIDE THE OFFICE. >> ONCE YOU HAVE YOUR COMMENT THAT WE'RE GOING TO HEAR WE'RE GOING TO GO TO VICKI.
NOW YOU HAVE A COMMENT YOU WANTED TO SAY.
>> IT'S SHORT. I WANTED TO THANK YOU ALL FOR THE SUPPORT FOR OUR SPAY AND NEUTER PROGRAMS. YOUR PAST SUPPORT MAKES IT POSSIBLE TO CONTINUE.
THE MISSION OF PREVENT A LITTER PALS OF CENTRAL TEXAS IS TO HELP END PET OVER POPULATION AND PET HOMELESSNESS.
EVERY MICROCHIP WE IMPLANT IN A THE OWNER TO MAKE SURE THE CHIP IS REGISTERED TO THAT OWNER. THE SAN MARCOS REGIONAL ANIMAL SHELTER IS OVER CAPACITY. LOST PETS CAN BE TAKEN TO ANY VETERINARIAN OFFICE TO BE SCANNED.
WE HAVE AN ACTIVE FACEBOOK PAGE THAT HAS VOLUNTEERS THAT ARE AVAILABLE TO SCAN PETS TOO. WE WOULD LOVE TO CONTINUE THIS
PROGRAM. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH.
AND NOW WE HEAR FROM VICKI. THANK YOU FOR ALL YOU DO, REALLY. TO GO AS A WASH BY.
WE ARE GENUINELY GRATEFUL. YOUR EFFORT REACHINGING IN AS VOLUNTEERS AND A NON-PROFIT ARE EXACTLY THE THINGS WE NEED FROM OUR RESIDENTS TO STAND UP AND SERVE IN THESE WAYS THAT NO ONE IS PAYING YOU TO DO. I DON'T WANT ON ACCIDENT AS WE GO THROUGH THE ADMINISTRATIVE CONVERSATION FOR IT NOT TO BE SAID. I WANT TO SAY IT.
>> VICKI. >> VICKIY DORSETT, HAYS COUNTY BUDGET OFFICE. THE COMMISSIONERS COURT EACH HAS COMMUNITY PURPOSE -- SORRY COMMUNITY SERVICE EXPENSE FUNDS APPROVED EVERY YEAR WITH THE EXCEPTION OF COMMISSIONER 3.
THERE ARE FUNDS AVAILABLE AND FOR THE COURT MEMBERS BUDGET.
THERE IS ALSO APPROXIMATELY 175,000 IN COUNTY WIDE CONTINGE IES THAT WE COULD MOVE FOR THIS PROGRAM.
IF YOU DIDN'T WANT TO USE THE GENERAL FUND WE HAVE 187,000 IN THE TOBACCO SETTLEMENT FUNDS AVAILABLE.
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>> I'VE HEARD COUNTY WIDE CONTINGENCY SEEMS TO BE
PREFERRED METHOD. >> I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION ON
THIS TO MOVE ON. >> ARTICULATE THE MOTION.
>> CAN I ASK ONE QUESTION REAL QUICK.
>> YES. >> IT MAY HAVE BEEN IN A PREVIOUS BUDGET. DIDN'T WE ALLOCATE EACH FUNDS FOR EACH PRECINCT TO HAVE A PROGRAM LIKE THIS.
>> THAT WAS FOR THE CHIP SCANNER.
>> THAT WAS FOR THE CHIP SCANNER.
>> WE HAD SOMETHING EARLIER THAN THAT.
CHAIR, DO YOU REMEMBER WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT.
>> I BELIEVE IT WAS THE SCANNER, SIR.
THE SCANNERS WERE MEANT TO BE PURCHASED AND ADMINISTERED.
>> I THINK DURING COVID WE PUT AN ITEM TO HAVE SOMETHING DONE IN EACH OF OUR PRECINCTS. I GUESS IT WENT BACK INTO
CONTINGENCY THOSE FUNDS. >> THERE WAS ADDITIONAL FUNDING ALLOCATED TO PALS DURING THAT TIME.
>> THAT'S WHAT I'M THINKING OF. >> THANK YOU COMMISSIONER.
COMMISSIONER SMITH WOULD LIKE TO ARTICULATE HOW WE'VE ALL ARRIVED
HERE. >> I'D LIKE TO OFFER A MOTION TO AUTHORIZE A -- NOT TO EXCEED $3880 AND AMEND THE BUDGET ACCORDINGLY. AS A NOTE THEY WILL HOLD MICROCHIP CLINICS IN THE 4 WILL BE IN KYLE ON JUNE 22ND, BUTAON JUNE 29TH AND WIMBERLY ON JUNE 23RD WITH AN ADDITIONAL ONE IN DRIPPING SPRINGS TO BE DETERMINED AT A LATER DATE.
>> AND COME FROM COUNTY WIDE CONTINGENCE.
>> SECOND. >> MOTION AND A SECOND.
>> COMMISSIONER INGALSBE. >> YES.
>> COMMISSIONER SMITH. >> YES.
>> I WILL GIVE YOU A QUICK HEADS UP.
THERE IS SOMEONE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON EXECUTIVE SESSION ITEM.
WE ALWAYS TAKE EXECUTIVE SESSION LAST.
SOMEONE'S PHONE. WE'RE TAKING EXECUTIVE SESSION LAST. IF YOU WANT TO STICK AROUND FOR THAT COMMENT. IT WILL BE AT THE END OF EVERYTHING ELSE. IN THE MEANTIME WE'RE GOING TO TAKE A 10 MINUTE RECESS FOR
>> OKAY. WE ARE BACK FROM A SHORT RECESS.
THANK YOU ALL FOR SITTING THROUGH IT ALL.
WE'RE GOING TO DO BOUNCING AROUND TO MOVE PEOPLE ALONG.
I HAVE A SHORT LIST OF HOW WE'RE GOING TO OPEN IN A BIT.
IF WE COULD START WITH ALL THESE LETTERS.
I KNOW G IS PART OF THAT. G11.
KNOCK THAT OUT QUICK. >> HAVE WE NOT FOUND A WAY TO
[G11. Appoint Pastor Darius Todd, as the Chaplain for Hays County, Texas, pursuant to the Resolution, Policy and Procedure Regarding Invocations, adopted by the Commissioners Court on October 16, 2012. BECERRA/KENNEDY]
PUT PAGE NUMBERS ON THE PAGES. >> G11.
APPOINT PASTOR DARUOUS TODD AS THE CHAPLAIN FOR THE HAYS COUNTY TEXAS, ADOPTED BY THE COMMISSIONERS COURT ON OCTOBER
>> SECOND. >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
>> GOOD MORNING COURT. PASTOR TODD STAYED AROUND AFTER HE PROVIDED PRAYER THIS MORNING. PROBABLY WAS NOT COUNTING ON THE ABUNDANCE OF PROCLAMATIONS WE HAD.
THANKS TO PASTOR TODD FOR HANGING AROUND.
WE'VE BEEN IN CONVERSATIONS NOW FOR SEVERAL WEEKS AND EVEN SINCE BEFORE PASTOR TODD PROVIDED THE FIRST PRAYER BEFORE COURT WHICH YOU MIGHT RECALL HAS BEEN SOMETIME.
HE WORKED UP AN ELECTRONIC MEANS FOR A RESERVATION SYSTEM WHICH IS GOING TO HELP QUITE A BIT WITH OUR INVOCATIONS.
MY OFFICE CONTINUES TO WORK WITH HIM AS LONG AS THE COURT SEES FIT TODAY. WORK WITH HIM TO MAKE SURE THAT'S PROPERLY ADVERTISED AND THE COMMUNITY HAS KNOWLEDGE FOR
IT AND CAN SIGN UP. >> HE'LL WORK WITH ALL AREAS OF
OUR COUNTY? >> I PUT THAT IN BACK UP SO YOU WOULD BE REMINDED OF WHAT THE COURT VOTED ON 10 YEARS AGO.
WHEN THE COURT VOTED ON THIS, THERE WAS A THREAT OF LAWSUIT
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THAT THE COURT WAS DEALING WITH AT THE TIME.AND THE SUPREME COURT WAS ACTUALLY AT THE SAME TIME HEARING A CASE THAT ADDRESSED SIMILAR CIRCUMSTANCES.
WE HAD A PATH FORWARD FOR US ABOUT 10 YEARS AGO THAT WAS FORGED BY THIS COUNTY AND CONFIRMED BY THE SUPREME COURT IN OUR POLICY. AND ALL OF THE PROGRAM THAT WILL CONDUCT WILL BE IN STEP WITH THAT POLICISM I WILL ADD A MOMENT MORE. ONE OF MY FIRST OFFICIAL MEETINGS WITH MR. KENNEDY WAS ABOUT HOW I WANTED TO CONDUCT THE MEETINGS IN COURT. AS A CHAIR I GET LEEWAY AND SPACES. ONE OF THEM WAS ABOUT PRAYER.
ABSOLUTELY. I AM A GOD FEARING CHRISTIAN WHETHER YOU LIKE IT OR NOT. I WANTED TO FIND A WAY WHERE I DIDN'T SHOVE IT IN PEOPLE'S FACE BUT STAY TRUE TO WHAT I THOUGHT WAS A GOOD IDEA WHICH IS WHY BEFORE WE OPEN COURT WE HAVE OUR PRAYER. AGAIN, PEACEFUL FOR ALL.
MY LORD, MY CREATOR. I AM GRATEFUL TO YOU.
I SHOULDN'T FORCE IT DOWN SOMEONE'S THROAT.
MR. KENNEDY SAID YOU COULD DO IT THIS WAY.
WE DO IT BEFORE WE OPEN COURT. WE ARE DOING IT IN A SAFE SPACE.
AM I RIGHT, MR. KENNEDY? >> THAT'S RIGHT THE ENDEAVOR HERE IS TO AVOID UNDER THE FIRST AMENDMENT THE ESTABLISH NOT OF RELIGION BY GOVERNMENT. WHILE ON THE OTHER HAND BALANCING FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHTS WHICH IS THE FREEDOM TO EXERCISE RELIGION AND THE FREEDOM OF SPEECH.
WE PROVIDE THE INVOCATION PERSON THE LEADER TO COME HERE AND PRAY AND OFFER THE INVOCATION FOR THE COURT WEEK TO WEEK.
>> AND THAT IS HOW WE THREAD THE NEEDLE.
ALL RIGHT. PLEASE CALL THE ROLE.
>> COMMISSIONER SHELL. >> YES.
>> COMMISSIONER SMITH. >> YES.
>> SUBMISSIONER JONES. >> YES.
>> COMMISSIONER INGALSBE. >> YES.
>> WOULD YOU LIKE A PHOTO? >> ALL RIGHT.
LET'S DO THIS. >> I'D LOVE TO WELCOME YOU TO
THE COURT. >> OR SOMEONE ELSE THAT YOU SEND. WHILE HE'S COMING UP FOR THE PICTURE. I WILL GO TO J2.
I'M GOING TO GET OUR FIRE MARSHAL OUT OF HERE IN A QUICK
MOMENT. >> LET'S GO TO THE FIRE MARSHALL'S ITEM SO WE CAN CLEAR HIM OUT OF HERE.
AND THEN GO STRAIGHT TO J2. >> N1 DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE
[N1. Discussion and possible action related to the burn ban. BECERRA]
ACTION RELATED TO THE BURN BAN. >> YES.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. STATE YOUR NAME AND TITLE FOR
THE VIEWING PUBLIC. >> GOOD MORNING JUDGE.
JUST TO GIVE YOU AN UPDATE WE ARE UNDER A BURN BAN.
RECOMMENDING THAT THAT BURN BAN REMAINS IN EFFECT.
OUR CURRENT KDI IS AT 647. [INAUDIBLE] WE'RE LOOKING AT 6 TO 8 VERSUS 8 TO 10. HOWEVER THE MAJORITY OF THE COUNTIES WITH US NOW PROMISING. HOT AND DRY TEMPERATURES AT 100 PLUS WITH NO MENTION OF RAIN. THERE HAVE BEEN SEVERAL FIRES IN THE PREVIOUS WEEK. HOWEVER THEY HAVE NOT BEEN RELATED TO ANY TYPE OF BURNING. IT HAS BEEN OTHER ITEMS. TREE LIMBS GETTING INTO POWER LINES AND OR EQUIPMENT USE.
WITH THAT WE URGE CAUTION WITH ANYTHING THAT CAUSE A SPARK OR
HEAT. >> AND MARK, HOW DOES THAT -- A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO WE IMPLEMENTED THE FIREWORKS.
>> WE LIMITED THE USE OF THE FIREWORKS [INAUDIBLE] GET RID OF
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THAT POTENTIAL OF THE UNPREDICTABLE USE OF THOSE TYPE OF ITEMS. BUT THE 2 ITEMS ARE CONSIDERED SEPARATELY. THERE HAS BEEN TALK BETWEEN MYSELF AND OTHER COUNTY FIRE MARSHALS ABOUT DISASTER DECLARATION FOR DOING NO FIREWORKS.[INAUDIBLE]. WE'RE JUST URGING CAUTION.
>> THE KDBI IS NOT AT THE POINT WHERE IT NEEDS TO BE TO
ELIMINATE THOSE YET. >> WE DID REACH THE 575.
>> SO WE ARE THERE. >> YES, MA'AM.
WE VOTED ON THAT TUESDAY IN COURT.
FRIDAY WE WERE AT 575. >> I COULDN'T REMEMBER WHAT THAT
NUMBER WAS. >> ANYTHING FOR THE MARSHAL,
COMMISSIONERS. >> LET'S WORK WITH OUR FIREWORKS PEOPLE AND GIVE THEM AS MUCH NOTICE AS WE CAN.
>> THEY'VE REACHED OUT TO US FOR WORDING [INAUDIBLE] POSTED AT THEIR SITES. SO WE'VE TALKED WITH THEM.
AND A LOT OF THEM ARE PUTTING UP THOSE SIGNS ENCOURAGING .
>> THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, SIR.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE.
>> WILL YOU PLEASE OPEN AGENDA ITEM J2?
[J2. Discussion and possible action to authorize the County Judge to execute a Development Agreement for Elder Hill Condominiums between Hays County and Gladys Highlands, LLC. SHELL/PACHECO]
>> J2 DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO AUTHORIZE THE COUNTY JUDGE TO EXECUTE A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT FOR ELDER HILL CONDOMINIUMS BETWEEN HAYS COUNTY AND GLADYS HIGHLANDS LLC.
>> AND WE HAVE 2 INDIVIDUALS SIGNED UP TO SPEAK.
SORRY I CAN'T READ THAT LAST LETTER.
>> WE ALSO HAVE MANY COMMENTS. >> MANY SPOKEN ONES AND WRITTEN
AS WELL. >> PLEASE APPROACH THE PODIUM.
STATE YOUR NAME AND YOU'LL HAVE 3 MINUTES TO SPEAK.
>> MY NAME IS RICK. I LIVE IN DRIFTWOOD?
THERE'S THE ELDER HILL CONDOMINIUMS AND I'M -- I AM A MEMBER -- HAVE BEEN A MEMBER OF THE DRIFTWOOD HISTORICAL CONSERVATION SOCIETY FOR 6 YEARS.
I'M ON THE BOARD THERE. I AM NOT SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF THE ORGANIZATION OR THE BOARD. WE BECAME AWARE OF THE ELDER HILL CONDOMINIUM DEVELOPMENT IN THE LAST 24 HOURS.
THERE HAS BEEN A FLURRY OF EMAILS BACK AND FORTH.
YOU HAVE HAD YOUR SHARE. MOST OF THEM ARE PARTICULARLY NEGATIVE IN THAT REGARD. I HAVE SPENT ABOUT 30 MINUTES ON THE PHONE WITH THE DEVELOPER RYAN BURRIS.
SOME OF THE THINGS HE SAID WERE PRETTY GOOD AND SO FORTH.
THE RESIDENTS OF THE DRIFTWOOD AREA WORKED DILIGENTLY AND HARD TO PLAIN TAIN THE LIFE STYLE THAT WE HAVE THAT WE CURRENTLY ENJOY. WHENEVER THERE'S ANYTHING NEW THAT COMES IN, A NEW TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT OR A NEW TYPE OF HOUSING OR SO FORTH, THERE'S ALWAYS A KNEE JERK REACTION TO THAT. EVEN WHEN DISCOVERY CAME IN WITH THEIR ZILLION DOLLAR DEVELOPMENTS THEY HAD THE KNEE JERK REACTION WAS THAT'S TISSUE. IT TURNED OUT TO BE VERY GOOD.
SO THERE IS A VOTE SCHEDULED FOR TODAY OR DISCUSSION AND VOTE.
YOUR AGENDA IS HARD FOR A LAY PERSON TO READ.
BUT MY -- MY REQUEST IS THAT -- THAT YOU POSTPONE THAT UNTIL THE NEXT TIME. THE NEXT TIME THAT YOU MEET.
THAT WILL ALLOW THE RESIDENTS, THE BOARD AND THE DRIFTWOOD HISTORICAL CONSERVATION GROUP TO MEET WITH THE DEVELOPER, TAKE A TOUR OF HIS FACILITY, HEAR SPECIFICALLY WHAT HE PLANS TO DO IN A FACE TO FACE ENVIRONMENT, ADDRESS SO WE CAN HAVE -- WE CAN LAY OUT HIS CONCERNS, HEAR HIS RESPONSES, SEE WHETHER OR NOT THEY MAKE SENSE, SEE WHETHER OR NOT THEY MEET THE COUNTY REQUIREMENTS MINIMAL THAT THEY ARE.
AND THAT'S REALLY WHY I AM HERE. OKAY.
HE DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT US. WE DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT HIM.
IT'S ONE OF THESE THINGS, WE BETTER STOP THIS.
WE DON'T KNOW THAT THAT'S -- WE'RE GOING IN HERE WITH JUST
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ENOUGH INFORMATION TO BE DANGEROUS.I GUESS MY REQUEST IS IF YOU LIKE WHAT WE'VE DONE IN THE PAST
HONOR US WITH THIS REQUEST. >> YOU CAN WRAP UP YOUR
>> THAT'S A 3 MINUTE TIMER. THAT'S ALL THE TIME YOU HAD.
>> I GUESS MY EGGS ARE FINISHED. >> FINISH YOUR THOUGHTS.
>> THAT'S REALLY IT. >> THANK YOU, SIR.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. OUR NEXT PERSON SIGNED UP TO SPEAK IS MS. JOHNSON. IF YOU'LL PLEASE APPROACH THE
PODIUM YOU WILL HAVE 3 MINUTES. >> MY NAME IS SANDRA JANSON.
I'M A RESIDENT OF DRIFTWOOD HAVE BEEN FOR 10 YEARS PLUS.
I COME IN OPON CISION OF THE ELDER HILL CONDOMINIUM DEVELOPMENT. NOT ONLY WILL THIS DIRECTLY IMPACT THE SECURITY OF MY FAMILY THE SERENITY OF OUR BACKYARD AND THE VALUE OF OUR HOME, IT CONTRADICTS EVERYTHING THAT THE DRIFTWOOD HISTORICAL CONSERVATION SOCIETY SUPPORTS.
WILL IT PRESERVE OR PORTRAY DRIFTWOOD VALUES? WILL IT IMPROVE OUR PROPERTY VALUES? OR DECREASE OUR PROPERTY VALUES? WILL IT TRAFFIC OR MAKE IT WORSE? I THINK OF ONE THING THAT IT WILL IMPROVE -- I CANNOT THINK OF ONE THING IT WILL IMPROVE ASIDE FROM THE DEVELOPERS BACK POCKET.
WE HAVE SPOKEN WITH RYAN VERY EARLY ON BEING HIS DIRECT NEIGHBOR WHEN HE STARTED THE DEVELOPMENT WE CALLED HIM, HEY, WHAT'S GOING ON. CAN YOU SHARE WITH YOUR NEIGHBORS? HE'S BEEN VERY SECRETIVE TO ALL OF US.
HE GOT HIS ELECTRICAL EASEMENT IN A DECEITFUL WAY.
DIDN'T MENTION ANYTHING OF THE DEVELOPMENT.
SAME WITH HIS INTERNET SERVICE. I JUST DON'T BELIEVE THAT THIS DEVELOPMENT OR THE DEVELOPER HAS THE BEST INTEREST OF THE RESIDENTS AT HEART. I THINK IT WILL DECREASE MY PROPERTY VALUES. I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE PRETTY COSTLY FOR THE COUNTY TO IMPROVE THE ROAD FOR 50 PLUS MORE CARS DRIVING DOWN EVERY DAY. WHERE HIS DRIVEWAY TURNS IN THERE'S A LOW WATER CROSSING. I IMAGINE THEY HAVE TO BUILD A BRIDGE AND A TURN LANE. HIS SEPTIC FIELD IS HUGE.
HE IS IN A FLOOD PLAIN. WE'RE CONCERNED WITH BUSINESS SEPTIC FIELD LEACHING INTO OTHER WATER SOURCES.
HE ALSO -- IN HIS PLANS SAYS THAT HE'S GOING TO USE WATER COLLECTION. I DON'T KNOW WHY HE DIDN'T DRILL A WELL. HE'S GOING TO USE WATER COLLECTION TANKS TO PROVIDE THESE 19 700 SQUARE FOOT HOPES WITH WATER. A 700 SQUARE FOOT HOUSE CAN COLLECT GALLONS PER INCH IT RAINS.
IN TEXAS WE GET 30 INCHES OF RAIN PER YEAR.
IF 2 PEOPLE LIVE IN EACH OF THOSE HOMES THEY'LL USE 100
GALLONS A DAY. >> YOU CAN FINISH YOUR THOUGHTS.
>> THERE WILL BE 130 DAYS OF WATER FOR THOSE PEOPLE TO LIVE OFF OF. THAT'S POSSIBLE.
>> THANK YOU. I CAN TELL YOU TOOK A LOT OF TIME AND ENERGY TO COME WITH THAT.
>> THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. >> I KNOW THERE'S A HAND RAISED.
NEXT WE'RE GOING TO GO TO THE SPEAKER, THE WRITE INS AND THEN WHEN WE GO BACK TO OUR CONVERSATION, THERE'S A CHANCE FOR ONE OF US TO CALL ON YOU BECAUSE YOU DIDN'T GET A CHANCE TO SIGN IN. WE'LL FIGURE IT OUT.
YOU MADE THE -- YOU TOOK THE EFFORT TO GET HERE.
WE'RE GOING TO MAKE SURE YOUR VOICE IS HEARD.
>> THANK YOU. >> HOW MANY DO WE HAVE THAT ARE
SO WE HAVE ROUGHLY 18 PUBLIC COMMENTS THAT WERE EMAILED
AGAINST ITEM J2. >> AND WERE THERE ANY COPY
PASTES. >> THEY'RE ALL AGAINST BUT THEY ALL HAVE THEIR OWN INDIVIDUAL COMMENTS ATTACHED TO BE READ.
>> WHY DON'T -- IN THE SPIRIT OF HAVING EVERYONE BE HEARD.
THAT'S THE WAY WE'LL DO IT. SINCE THEY'RE NOT COPY PASTE.
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WITH A COPY PASTE WE'LL READ ONE OF THEM AND READ ERCH'S NAME THAT DELIVERED IT. TO BE EFFICIENT.SINCE THEY ARE ORIGINAL COMMENTS WE'LL LET EACH ONE BE READ.
>> FIRST COMMENT IS FROM AMANDA TEAG.
HER COMMENTS READ. >> WHAT WAS THE LAST NAME.
>> TEAG. TO WHOM IT MAY CONCERN.
MY QUESTIONS CONCERN THE WATER SYSTEMS FOR THIS COMMUNITY.
INDICATES THAT WATER WILL BE PROVIDED BY RAIN WATER COLLECTED AS DEVELOPED BY EACH UNIT OWNER. WHAT WILL BE THE ALTERNATIVE METHOD FOR PROVIDING WATER FOR THESE UNITS? THE SECOND BULLET POINT, SECTIONS 1-- IT'S ROMAN NUME RALLS. INDICATES THAT THE PRIVATE ON SITE SEWAGE FACILITY WILL BE PROVIDED.
PLEASE CLARIFY THE LANGUAGE. WILL THIS BE A SINGLE SEPTIC SYSTEM THAT ALL UNITS WILL BE PLUMBED TO.
THAT'S A 2 QUESTION COMMENT FROM AMANDA TEAG.
AND THEN THE NEXT COMMENT FORM IS FROM ANDREW FAHEY.
HE IS ALSO AGAINST ITEM J2. SEE HERE.
ONE SECOND. THE COMMENT READS, I AM THE CURRENT PRESIDENT OF THE HOA BOARD [SPANISH] HOA ON THE ADJOINING PROPERTY. THE BOARD AND THE HOMEOWNERS OF VINEYARD ESTATES ARE OPPOSED TO THE ELDER HILLS CONDO.
WE WERE NOT AWARE THIS WAS HAPPENING AT ALL UNTIL TODAY.
THERE ARE SEVERAL ISSUES WITH THE PROPOSAL INCLUDING WATER COLLECTION AND SEPTIC FOR SUCH A COMPACT AREA FOR 19 UNITS.
WAS THERE EVER A NOTICE TO SUBDIVIDE? THAT'S THE END OF HIS STATEMENT. NEXT IS FROM AUBREY SCOTT
DOUGHERTY. >> I AM AGAINST THIS ACTION OF ISSUES OF SEPTIC TANK CAUSING DOWN HILL POLLUTION.
ELDER HILL ROAD WOULD NEED TO BE EXPANDED FOR TURN LANES.
RAIN WATER IS NOT ADEQUATE FOR THAT AMOUNT OF PEOPLE.
AND INGRESS AND EGRESS -- IT JUST CLOSED.
JUST ONE SECOND. >> ARE YOU PLAYING SOLITAIRE IN BETWEEN READING? I'M JUST KIDDING.
>> THE FOLDER CLOSED BY ITSELF. HERE WE GO.
SO THE EGRESS AND INGRESS FOR FIRE SAFETY IS NOT ADEQUATE.
THAT WAS THE END OF HER STATEMENT.
NEXT IS FROM BRENDA BLANE. SHE IS AGAINST ITEM J2.
HER COMMENT READS, SPEAKING AS A CONCERNED HOMEOWNER WHO RESIDES IN VINEYARD ESTATES I WAS SHOCKED TO HEAR THAT A CONDO COMMUNITY IN OUR RURAL ENVIRONMENT WAS BEING PROPOSED OR CONCERNED. THIS IS THE WORST TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT THAT HAYS COUNTY COULD ALLOW TO MOVE FORWARD IN THIS AREA.
AND IF APPROVED SETS A BAD PRECEDENT.
DRIFTWOOD IS A RURAL COMMUNITY AND ELDER HILL ROAD ARE TYPICALLY RANCHES AND HOMES THAT HAVE BEEN BUILT ON LOTS OVER AN ACRE IN ORDER TO ENSURE THE SERENITY THAT RURAL LIVING OFFERS AND PROTECT WILDLIFE. CRAMMING 18 UNITS INTO A SMALL AREA IS NOT ACCEPTABLE AND WILL RUIN THE INTEGRITY OF THE SURROUNDINGS, DECREASING PROPERTY VALUES AND ADDING STRAIN TO TRAFFIC. ELDER HILL ROAD INANCE AND HAYS COUNTY RESPONDERS AND POLICE FORCE.
THIS IS A TERRIBLE IDEA AND ARE STRONGLY OPPOSED.
LET'S KEEP VALLEY RURAL AND NOT ALLOW PROGRESS LIKE THIS TO MOVE FORWARD. CONCERNED HOMEOWNERS BRENDA AND DENNIS BLANE. NEXT COMMENT IS FROM EDWARD ALLEN HOLTGRIN. HE IS AGAINST ITEM J2.
TO WHOM IT MAY CONCERN -- LET ME RESTART THIS, ONE SECOND.
TO WHOM IT MAY CONCERN ON THE HAYS COUNTY COMMISSIONER COURT.
I AM WRITING IN PROTEST OF THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE 19
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CONDOMINIUMS OFF OF ELDER HILL IN DRIFTWOOD TEXAS.AND HAS A PROPERTY ID32096. MY CONCERNS AS WELL AS THE SURROUNDING ELDER HILL COMMUNITY ARE NUMBER 1, WELL WATER ISSUES.
WHILE OUR CURRENT WATER TABLE MIGHT BE ABLE TO HOST ANOTHER HOUSE OR 2, 19 UNITS EXCLAMATION MARK IS GROSSLY EXCESSIVE AND HAS THE POTENTIAL TO DRAIN THE WATER SUPPLY OF DOZENS OF HOMES IN THE AREA. NUMBER 2, SEPTIC FIELD AND THE RUN OFF OF SO MANY NEW HOMES HAS A POTENTIAL TO RUIN THE WATER TABLE AND PROMOTE DOWN STREAM POLLUTION.
NUMBER 3, RAIN WATER COLLECTION FOR THAT NUMBER OF RESIDENTS IS NEARLY IMPOSSIBLE FOR MOST OF THE YEAR.
ONE AREA DRAWING FROM THE LIMITED WATER TABLE.
NUMBER 4, TRAFFIC, THE AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC ON ELDER HILL HAS BEEN GROWING AT SUCH A RAPID PACE THAT THIS COMMISSION DEEMED IT NECESSARY TO REDUCE THE SPEED LIMITS ON ELDER HILL.
THE ADDITION OF SO MANY RESIDENTS WILL INCREASE THE DANGERS THAT ARE ALREADY PRESENT ON ELDER HILL.
NUMBER 5, EMERGENCY EVACUATION. SO MANY RESIDENTS DOWN A SMALL LANE ROAD WILL CREATE CHAOS. NUMBER 6, TURN LANES.
WITH SUCH A LARGE COMMUNITY ADDED TO ELDER HILL THE ONLY SAFE SOLUTION WOULD BE TO INSTALL ADDITIONAL TURN LANES ON ELDER HILL. THESE ARE COUNTY FUNDS THAT SHOULD BE USED FOR BETTER PRODUCTS.
DO NOT RUIN THE BEAUTY AND NATURE AND DARK SKIES BY ALLOWING TO BE CONSTRUCTED IN AN INAPPROPRIATE AREA.
I LOVE HAYS COUNTY AND I WANT TO BE HERE FOR MANY YEARS TO COME.
THANK YOU FOR CONSIDERING THESE POINTS.
I STRONGLY URGE YOU NOT TO PERMIT THIS DEVELOPMENT TO MOVE FORWARD. SINCE SEERLY ALLEN HOLTGRIN OF DRIFTWOOD. NEXT IS FROM EMILY CROCKETT.
REGARDING THE ELDER HILL CONDOS BUILDING TO SAINT HELENA COURT.
VILLAGE ESTATES IS ONE OF THE FEW NEIGHBORS WITH LARGE LOT SIZES. THIS IS THE HILL COUNTRY.
WE DO NOT WANT CONDOS THAT INCREASE TRAFFIC, NOISE, LIGHT, DARK SKY COMMUNITY. I DON'T KNOW HOW PASSIONATE I CAN GET HERE. I CAN TALK ALL DAY ON HOW I DON'T WANT CONDOS IN MY BACKYARD.
ARE YOU KIDDING ME? REACH OUT IF YOU WANT TO CHAT ABOUT SHUTTING THIS PROJECT DOWN.
THAT WAS EMILY CROCKETT. LET'S SEE HERE.
>> CAN I ASK THE CLERK'S OFFICE TO AFTER WE'RE DONE WITH THIS ITEM CAN YOU FORWARD ALL THOSE COMMENTS TO US INDIVIDUALLY SO WE CAN HAVE THAT CONTACT INFORMATION?
>> SURE. NEXT COMMENT IS FROM JENNIFER MUGELE SHE IS AGAINST ITEM J2. HER COMMENTS READ, PLEASE ACCEPT THIS LETTER AS OUR PLEA TO OPPOSE THE DEVELOPMENT OF ELDER HILL CONDOMINIUM COMPLEX ON THE PROPERTY LOCATED IN HAYS COUNTY ON A PRIVATE OFF OF ELDER HILL ROAD.
REPRESENTS A DENSE HOUSING DEVELOPMENT WHICH GOES AGAINST WHAT THE RESIDENTS OF DRIFTWOOD AND DRIFTWOOD CONSERVATION SOCIETY WANT FOR OUR AREA. 19 UNITS ON 12 ACRES OF LAND.
IN ADDITION ADDING 19 INDIVIDUAL SEPTIC TANKS ON A SMALL TRACK OF LAND WILL CAUSE IMMINENT DOWN STREAM POLLUTION WHICH WILL HARM THE ENVIRONMENT AND POSE POTENTIAL HEALTH RISKS.
THE ACCESS TO THIS COMPLEX IS OFF ELDER HILL ROAD.
AND 19 MORE DENSELY BUILD CONDO MINIUMS WILL CREATE MORE TRAFFIC AND STRAIN. NOT TO MENTION THE HUGE WATER TRUCKS THAT WE WILL NEED TO DRIVE ELDER HILL ROAD AND THE PRIVATE ROAD TO DELIVER WATER REGULARLY TO 19 UNITS WITH RAIN WATER TANKS IN TIMES OF DROUGHT LIKE NOW.
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IN ADDITION THE PRIVATE ROAD TO ENTER AND LEAVE THE COMPLEX IS AT THE BOTTOM OF A STEEP HILL AND THES INED TRAFFIC TO AND FROM THE COMPLEX POISES A SAFETY THREAT TO MOTORISTS.THE CLEARING OF VEGETATION AND TREES ON THIS TRACT TO BUILD THIS COMPLEX IS SAD. OAK TREES HUNDREDS OF YEARS OLD, GONE. A LOT OF OUR NEIGHBORS INVESTED IN BEAUTIFUL PROPERTIES WITH ACREAGE AND BEAUTIFUL HILLS, VALLEYS AND NIGHT SKIES. THIS DEVELOPMENT WILL REMOVE MORE TREES, WREAK HAVOC ON PRECIOUS WILDLIFE, CREATE MORE TRAFFIC, MORE NOISE AND MORE LIGHT IN THE SKIES.
DENSE HOUSING SUCH AS A CONDOMINIUM DEVELOPMENT IS NOT WHAT DRIFTWOOD IS OR WAS. WE SUPPORT THE SOCIETY IN PRESERVING AND ENHANCING DRIFTWOOD'S BEAUTY AND HERITAGE AND OPPOSE THIS DEVELOPMENT. RESPECTFULLY JENNIFER MUGELE OF
DRIFTWOOD. >> I WONDER HOW THE COMMUNITY
FEELS. >> JOEL SAGE SUBMITTED A PUBLIC COMMENT FORM STATING HE'S AGAINST J2.
KALEN DOUGHERTY. >> WHAT WAS THAT NAME.
>> KALUM DOUGHERTY. PUBLIC COMMENT AGAINST.
DISCUSSION -- YEAH, THERE'S A COMMENT.
I AM AGAINST THIS ACTION OF ISSUES.
I THINK WE READ THIS ONE ACTUALLY I'M SORRY.
>> OKAY. THIS IS KRISTIN ADAMS. SHE IS AGAINST ITEM J2. ALSO FROM DRIFTWOOD.
SHE IS UNABLE TO BE HERE. FIRST THE PROPOSED SEPTIC FIELDS DRAIN INTO WET DRY CREEK WHICH CURRENTLY HAS LOW WATER CROSSING ON ELDER HILL ROAD. AND CONNECTS TO THE NEARBY GAT LIN CREEK. CHANGE OF USE TO SHORT TERM RENTALS WITHOUT THE ABILITY OF THE COUNTY TO APPLY THE STANDARDS FOR THAT USE. IN THE EVENT -- AND THEN THIS IS IN QUOTATIONS. IN THE EVENT DECLARING ALLOWS FOR THE PROPERTY TO BE OPERATED AS A SHORT TERM RENTAL ENTERPRISE THE DECLARANT AGREES THAT THE COUNTY MAY NOT BY WAY POSSESS THE AUTHORITY TO SUFFICIENTLY APPLY STANDARDS THAT ENSURE THE REGIMES ORDERLY AND HEALTHFUL DEVELOPMENT.
END QUOTATIONS. THIS APPLICATION SHOULD NOT BE APPROVED WITH THE ABOVE WORDING INCLUDED AS IT INDICATES AN OPTION TO SHORT TERM RENTALS. PLEASE CONSIDER THE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT OF THE PROPOSED SEPTIC PLANS AND VOTE NO FOR THE CURRENT DEVELOPMENT PLAN.
PLEASE DO NOT APPROVE OF THIS DEVELOPMENT AS PROPOSED. THANK YOU KRISTIN ADAMS. NEXT COMMENT IS FROM LEANN TOCK.
STATEMENT TO THE COURT. >> TOCK YOU SAID.
>> TOCK. MY NAME IS LEANN TOCK AND I AM A PROPERTY OWNER. I ACCESS MY HOUSE AND LAND ALONG THE SAME EASEMENT SERVING PROPERTY THAT RYAN BURRIS IS PROPOSING TO DEVELOP. I WISH TO OBJECT TO THE PROPOSED -- FOR THE ELDER HILL CONDOMINIUM.
I DO WANT WANT A 2 LANE HIGH TRAFFIC PAVED ROAD.
NOR DO I WISH TO PAY FOR NOR MAINTAIN SUCH A ROAD.
I AM VERY CONCERNED HOW I AM BE DRAWN UNWILLINGLY INTO FINANCIAL RESPONSIBILITY FOR THESE IMPROVEMENTS.
I OBJECT TO THE PROSPECT OF 15 TO 18 ADDITIONAL HOUSEHOLDS TRAVERSING MY PROPERTY ALONG THIS EASEMENT.
NOT ONLY THAT BUT THE PROSPECT OF THE CONSTRUCTION REQUIRED TO BUILD 15 TO 18 HOMES ALONG THIS EASEMENT IS ABHORRENT TO ME.
I WILL NOTE THAT THE OUTLET OF THIS EASEMENT EXISTS DANGEROUSLY CLOSE TO A STRONG CURVE AT THE BOTTOM OF A STEEP ROAD.
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IT IS LIKELY TO BE THE SITE OF FREQUENT ACCIDENTS.I SUBMIT THAT THIS INTERSECTION REMAINS DANGEROUS TO TRAVERSE WITH OR WITHOUT POTENTIAL IMPROVEMENTS THAT THE COUNTY MAY MAKE TO ELDER HILL ROAD ITSELF. ADDITIONALLY I AM CONCERNED THAT THE COUNTY MAY BE WILLING TO GIVE UP OVERSIGHT TO THIS DEVELOPMENT. DUE TO THE FACT THAT HE HAS REPEATEDLY AND SIGNIFICANTLY MISREPRESENTED HIS PLANS FOR THIS PROPERTY TO ME. I HAVE A SIMILARLY CONCERNED NEIGHBOR AS WITNESS TO ATTEST TO THIS REPRESENTATION.
>> LET'S SEE HERE. ONE SECOND.
THAT'S THE END. MY HUSBAND DONALD CO-OWNER IS IN
AGREEMENT WITH ME. >> I'VE BEEN MARRIED FOR 30 YEARS WHEN SOMEONE SAYS MY SPOUSE AGREES WITH ME 100% I'M SUSPICIOUS. I'M JUST KIDDING.
>> THERE'S 6 MORE ACCORDING TO YOUR NUMBER.
>> I WILL TELL YOU WHILE SHE PULLS UP THE NEXT ONE.
ALSO OUR CUT OFF -- I DID RECEIVE 2 AFTER.
I'M GOING TO LET THOSE IN. GARY STONE WHEN SHE'S FINISHED AND ANTHONY TILLFORD. WHENEVER SHE'S DONE.
>> NEXT MESSAGE IS FROM LYNN HAMLIN.
TOMORROW YOU WILL BE CONSIDERING THE FOLLOWING AGENDA ITEM I'M WRITING TO -- FROM VARIOUS PLANNING AND SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS. I AM A RESIDENT ON PROPERTY IN AN ADJOINING NEIGHBORHOOD PANTHER CREEK ALSO LOCATED OFF OF ELDER HILL ROAD. WATER SUPPLY.
SPECIFICALLY CONCERNS ABOUT THIS AGREEMENT ARE AS FOLLOWS.
WATER SUPPLY. THE AGREEMENT NEEDS MORE INFORMATION ABOUT HOW THE PROPOSED RAIN WATER SYSTEMS WILL ADEQUATELY SUPPLY THE CONDOMINIUM UNITS.
WE LIVE IN A COUNTY OF WEATHER EXTREMES FROM DROUGHT TO FLOODS AND RAIN WATER HARVESTING SYSTEMS REQUIRE PLAPPING TO ADDRESS THESE CHALLENGES PROVIDING SUITABLY TREATED WATER FOR HUMAN CONSUMPTION. THE NUMBER OF UNITS PROPOSED IN THE MAY FOLLOW UNDER REGULATIONS FOR A PUBLIC WATER SYSTEM AND DISCUSSED IN THE TCU REPORT A GUIDE FOR PUBLIC WATER SYSTEMS AT TEXAS.GOV. A PWS IS ANY SYSTEM THAT SERVES AT LEAST 25 PEOPLE PER DAY FOR AT LEAST 60 DAYS PER YEAR OR AT LEAST 15 SERVICE QUESTION CONNECTIONS. IF IT QUALIFIES AS A PWS THERE ARE REQUIREMENTS THAT SHOULD BE INCLUDED AS A REQUIREMENT.
AND NOT IGNORED UNTIL IT BECOMES A PROBLEM FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND COUNTY. AND TO REQUIRE THE DEVELOPER TO OBTAIN APPROVAL AND FOLLOW GUIDELINES BY STATE AUTHORITIES TCEQ AND DWBE FOR DESIGN AND OPERATIONS FOR A RAIN WATER HARVESTING AND CATCHMENT OPERATION.
ANY CONSIDERATION OF AN AGREEMENT SHOULD NOT HAPPEN UNTIL IT IS DETERMINED THAT FUTURE RESIDENTS CAN OBTAIN A
FUTURE WATER SUPPLY. >> DO YOU NEED A GLASS OF WATER.
I'M NOT SAYING YOU SOUND BAD. YOU KEEP READING AND READING AND
READING. >> THE NEXT MESSAGE IS FROM
FIRST NAME NAZEE AND LAST NAME IS DAHMERY, HYPHEN SAGE.
GOOD MORNING WHY HAVE LEARNED ABOUT PROPOSED CONDOMINIUMS ON ELDER HILL. COUNTRY LIVING IS UNIQUE AND IN A PARTICULAR WAY OF LIFE, CALM AND QUIETNESS.
NEARLY ALL OF IT, NOT 100% OF RESIDENTS WHO SEEK THIS LIFESTYLE COME HERE FOR PEACE AND QUIET.
WITH RESPECT WE ARE STRONGLY AGAINST THIS CONDOMINIUM DEVELOPMENT OR ANY CONDO DEVELOPMENT IN THIS AREA.
LET'S KEEP THOSE FOR AUSTIN. KEEP THE BEAUTY, QUIET AND UNIQUE FEATURE OF THIS REGION AS IS.
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THAT'S THE END OF THAT COMMENT. NEXT IS FROM SALLY HOLTGRIN.I AM WRITING IN PROTEST OF THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE 19 CONDOMINIUMS. THE TOP PART IS VERY SIMILAR TO EDWARD ALLEN HOLTGRIN. MAYBE THE SAME CONCERNS.
NUMBER 1 SEPTIC RUN OFF. NUMBER 2 RAIN.
3 WELL WATER. NUMBER 5 NECESSARY EXPANSION OF ELDER HILL TO ACCOMMODATE MORE RESIDENTS AND TURN LANES.
SO I BELIEVE THIS IS LIKE YOU SAID A COPY.
THAT WAS SALLOW HOLTGRIN. SIMILAR TO EARLIER COMMENT FROM EDWARD HOLTGRIN. NEXT COMMENT IS FROM -- CLEAR THIS ONE OUT SANDRA AND DONALD WHITE.
PLEASE ACCEPT THIS LETTER AS OUR PLEA TO DECLINE THE PROPOSAL OF THE ELDER HILL CONDOMINIUM COMPLEX.
>> LOOKS LIKE A COPY AND PASTE. >> TELL US THE NAME AND YOU CAN
KEEP GOING. >> THAT WAS SANDRA AND DONALD
>> NEXT COMMENT IS STEVE FOREIGNIER AND THIS ONE SAYS I PLAN ON ATTENDING THE MEETING TOMORROW AND FIGHT IN CONDOMINIUM PROJECT WITH ALL MY EFFORTS.
THIS IS IN A RURAL AREA AND NOT SUIT FORWARD 19 CONDOMINIUMS ON 12 ACRES. THAT AREA IS PRONE TO FLOODING AND THAT IS NOT RIGHT FOR THE COMMUNITY.
I BELIEVE I HAVE 3 MORE ACTUALLY.
SUMMER DOUGHERTY. WE DID AN AUBREY DOUGHERTY.
THIS IS SUMMER DOUGHERTY. SHE IS AGAINST THIS ITEM AS WELL. I AM AGAINST THIS ACTION FOR ISSUES OF SEPTIC TANKS CAUSING DOWN STREAM POLLUTION.
THIS IS A COPY AND PASTE OF THE ISSUE THEY ADDRESSED EARLIER WITH THE INGRESS AND EGRESS OF FIRE SAFETY IS NOT ADEQUATE.
TIM OR LAURA PHELPS. AND THIS IS THE FINAL PUBLIC COMMENT FORM THAT I HAVE. TIM'S NAME IS LISTED ON THE AGENDA REQUEST FORM. BUT THE EMAIL IS FROM LAURA PHELPS. NUMBER 1, THE SEPTIC PLAN DRAINS INTO A WET DRY CREEK. THE APPLICATION CONTAINS WORDING FORSHADOWING A MOVE TO SHORT TERM RENTALS.
THAT'S THE LAST. >> NEXT PLEASE START A TIMER FOR MR. GARY STONE. YOU WILL BE ABLE TO APPROACH THE PODIUM AND YOU HAVE 3 MINUTES, SIR.
>> THANK YOU SIR. >> COMMISSIONERS JUDGE, MY NAME IS JERRY STONE. MY HOME IS IN THE VINEYARD SUBDIVISION. I'M HERE TO VOICE MY OPPOSITION AS A HOMEOWNER TO THE APPLICATION FOR DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT FOR ELDER HILL CONDOMINIUMS IN HAYS COUNTY.
THE ELDER HILL CONDOMINIUMS ARE TO BE LOCATED ADJACENT TO AND EAST BORDER OF THE SUBDIVISION. AND I CAN ATTEST THAT NO COLLABORATION HAS BEEN MADE BY ELDER HILL CONDOMINIUMS WITH THE VINEYARD ESTATES HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION OUR NEIGHBOR.
AND IT'S ISSUES FROM PLANNING AND SUBDIVISION REQUIREMENTS AND TO REMOVE OVERSIGHT FOR THE SAFETY AND SECURITY BY HAYS COUNTY AUTHORITIES. AS AN EXAMPLE REFER TO PAGE 2 SECTION D. IT READS [INAUDIBLE] TO PROVIDE AN ALTERNATIVE TO THE COUNTY'S PROCESS FOR DEVELOPMENT IN ORDER TO PROMOTE STATE AND LOCAL DEVELOPMENT AND STIMULATE ECONOMIC ACTIVITY IN THE COUNTY. WHY CIRCUMVENT ALL COUNTY RULES AND REGULATIONS THAT OTHERS MUST FOLLOW? THIS DOCUMENT ACCOMPLISHES THE OPPOSITE FOR THE DRIFT WOOD COMMUNITY. AS AN EXAMPLE OF STRIPPING AWAY COUNTY POWER REFER TO PAGE 5 SECTION 5 OF THE AGREEMENT.
IT READS IN THE EVENT WHICH IS THE DEVELOPER THAT THEY USE THE WORD DECLARANT. I CAN DO A CONDO.
IT'S MY CHOICE NOT THE COUNTIES. STRIP AWAY THE POWERS THAT PROPERTY -- THE DEKALARAANT ACKNOWLEDGES AND AGREES THAT THE
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COUNTY MAY NOT BY WAY OF LOCAL RULES AND REGULATIONS POSSESS THE AUTHORITY TO APPLY STANDARDS TO ENSURE THE DEVELOPMENT.WHY ARE WE LOSING OUR ABILITY TO GOVERN? DOES THIS IMPACT FIRE MARSHAL AND HIS AUTHORITY? DOES THIS IMPACT LAW ENFORCEMENT OF COUNTY ORDINANCES? THIS RAISES COMMUNITY SAFETY CONCERNS AND HOW DOES THIS PARTICULAR DOCUMENT MAKE THE COUNTY BETTER? THE DEVELOPMENT WATER PLAN AS SOLELY RAIN WATER COLLECTION IS BEING PRESENTED WITH NO ENGINEERING FOR WASTE WATER.
WITH NO EXTERNAL REVIEW AND IS BINDING TO THE COUNTY.
THIS LACKS ACCOUNTABILITY TO THE TAXPAYER AND DRIFT COMMUNITY.
THE DEVELOPMENT AS IT STANDS FITS THE DEFINITION OF A
COMMUNE. >> PLEASE KEEP GOING.
>> THE AGREEMENT IS OPPOSITE TO THE HISTORICAL CONSERVATION SOCIETY'S GUIDELINES. THEIR MISSION IS PRESERVING AND ENHANCING DRIFTWOOD'S RURAL BEAUTY AND HERITAGE.
PLEASE TAKE THE TIME TO READ THE DRIFT WOOD GUIDELINES BECAUSE THIS IS NOT IT. WE AS HOMEOWNERS ARE NOT ANTI-DEVELOPMENT. OUR HOMEOWNER'S ASSOCIATION EMBRACED A 197 ACRE DEVELOPMENT IN CONSTRUCTION ADJACENT TO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD TO THE SOUTH. THE DEVELOPER CREATED HIS DEVELOPMENT IN ACCORDANCE WITH HAYS COUNTY RULES AND REGULATIONS. THERE WAS NO OPPOSITION TO MR. WIMBERLY'S DEVELOPMENT. HE IS OPPOSED TO THIS 19 UNIT CONDO DEVELOPMENT THAT ALSO BORDERS HIS PROPERTY.
THIS CREATES DIFFERENT RULES FOR DIFFERENT PEOPLE.
THIS AGREEMENT IS NOT GOOD PUBLIC POLICY.
>> WILL YOU WRAP UP. >> ONE PARAGRAPH AND I'M DONE.
IT IS IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT OUR ASSOCIATION HAS BECOME AWARE OF THIS IN THE LAST 36 HOURS. WE ARE TRYING TO UNDERSTAND HOW THIS AGREEMENT CAN BE MADE WITH SUCH LACK OF DETAIL AND THAT THE COUNTY CAN AGREE TO A DOCUMENT THAT REMOVES MOST OF ITS AUTHORITY. WE FEEL THE DEVELOPER AGREEMENT IS BASICALLY WRITTEN WHERE THE COUNTY HAS GIVEN AWAY OVERSIGHT AND FAVORS THE DEVELOPER. WE'RE ASKING THE COUNTY TO FOLLOW EXISTING RULES THAT FALL INTO PLACE TO PREVENT THIS.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WE APPRECIATE IT.
AND SOLICIT YOUR VOTE AGAINST IT.
>> THANK YOU MR. STONE. AND OUR FINAL SPEAKER ON THIS AGENDA ITEM IS MR. ANTHONY TILLFORD.
3 EMPTIES OR AS YOU SAW THERE ABOUT.
>> THANK YOU. JUDGE AND COMMISSIONERS, THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME SPEAK. I JUST -- MY WIFE AND I FOUND OUT ABOUT THIS ABOUT 24 HOURS AGO.
WE ARE PROPERTY OWNERS. WE ARE ADJACENT TO THIS PROPOSED CONDOMINIUM. WE HAVE 47 ACRES IN PANTHER CREEK. WE ARE PART OF PANTHER CREEK BUTT UP AGAINST THIS. WE MAINTAIN A WILDLIFE EXAMINATION AND WE SUPPORT THE WILDLIFE.
WE'VE SEEN WHAT SOME OF THIS HAS DONE TO WILDLIFE.
AND IT'S CONCERNING. MY -- WE MET RYAN BURROWS ABOUT A YEAR AGO. REACHED OUT AS NEIGHBORS TO INQUIRE WHAT WAS HAPPENING AND WELCOME TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
THEY TOD US THEY WERE BUILDING A HOME FOR THEMSELVES AND MIGHT SUBDIVIDE ONE OR TWO OTHER SITES.
IF THERE'S ANYTHING WE COULD DO. MY WIFE CALLED HIM YESTERDAY.
AFTER FINDING OUT ABOUT THE 19 UNITS.
HIGH SAID IT'S A DONE DEAL. HE SAID IF WE TRY TO OPPOSE THAT HE WOULD TURN IT INTO SHORT TERM RENTALS.
I WAS SURPRISED AT THAT. HE TRIED TO TALK ABOUT ENVIRONMENTALLY THERE WILL BE NO WELLS, RAIN WATER COLLECTION.
AS YOU KNOW IT'S BECOME INCREDIBLY DRY OUT THERE.
WE HAVE ONE WELL FOR 47 ACRES WE'RE PROUD THAT WE'RE RECHARGING. WE THINK THAT THE AREA IS GORGEOUS. WE LOVE BEING OUT THERE.
WE LOVE HOW BEAUTIFUL DRIFTWOOD IS.
WE ARE OPPOSED TO THE WAY THIS IS BEING DONE.
WE THINK IT'S MISREPRESENTED. WE FEEL LIKE IT IS GOING TO HURT THE WHOLE AREA, THE BEAUTY, THE CHARM OF THIS.
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WE'RE NOT AGAINST DEVELOPMENT. WE'RE AGAINST DEVELOPMENT AT THIS TIME. I TOOK SOME PICTURES.I DIDN'T GET HERE SOON ENOUGH TO SET THIS UP.
I TOOK PICTURES OF THE AREA. HE JUST STRIPPED ALL THIS RIGHT OVER OUR FENCE LINE AND IT LOOKS TERRIBLE.
IT IS -- I CANNOT BELIEVE IN THIS SMALL AREA HE'S GOING TO PUT 19 UNITS. THERE'S NOTHING IN DRIFTWOOD RESEMBLES ANYTHING THIS HORRIFIC TO ME.
ALL OUR NEIGHBORS LOVE THE AREA. WE FEEL LIKE IT'S BEEN VERY -- WE'RE VERY PROUD OF IT. AND I DON'T SEE HOW THE WATER, THE WASTE WATER, ALL THIS CAN ADHERE TO THE STANDARDS OF DRIFTWOOD AND IT'S CHARM AND BEAUTIFICATION OF THE WILDLIFE.
I WANT TO HAVE SOMEBODY WHO IS ADJACENT TO THIS LAND FOR YOU GUYS TO HEAR, THE COMMISSIONERS AND THE JUDGE TO HEAR WHAT IS HAPPENING. WE'RE VERY SAD ABOUT THIS.
THE INTIMIDATION OF IF WE OPPOSE IT WE'RE GOING TO TURN IT INTO SHORT TERM RENTALS FOR US TO SEE AND HEAR AND BE PART OF WAS SAD.
I APPRECIATE BEING ABLE TO TALK TO YOU.
I HOPE YOU CONSIDER THESE THINGS AND HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE OPPOSED
TO J2. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
THAT CONCLUDES OUR SECTION OF PUBLIC COMMENTS.
I WILL TURN IT TO COMMISSIONER SHELL WHO PROVIDES OVER THAT
FOOT PRINT AND THEN MR. PACHECO. >> THANKS JUDGE.
I APPRECIATE EVERYONE STICKING AROUND THROUGH THE LONG SESSION TO MAKE YOUR COMMENTS. SO THIS PROJECT WAS INITIALLY A RENTAL COMMUNITY PROJECT. IT'S PERMITS WERE PROVIDED FOR WASTE WATER SYSTEMS. MARCUS CAN GIVE US THE DATE.
I'M GOING TO GUESS 3 YEARS AGOISM THAT'S CORRECT, COMMISSIONER. THE PAST 3 YEARS WE'VE HAD 4, 5 SEPTIC PERMITS ISSUED ON THIS TRACT OF LAND.
>> THE PROPOSED WAS 4 SEPARATE -- OR 5 SEPARATE SYSTEMS?
>> IT'S 5 SEPARATE SYSTEMS FOR 15 UNITS.
>> FOR THE MOST PART WHAT WE WOULD CONSIDER IS THE DEVELOPER IS ENTITLED TO CONSTRUCT AS THOSE PERMITS ALLOW.
THE ATTEMPT IN THIS AGREEMENT WAS TO NOT HAVE A RENTAL COMMUNITY YET TO GET SOME TYPE OF CONTROL FROM WHAT COULD BE BUILT THERE. THE COURT DOES NOT HAVE TO APPROVE THIS AGREEMENT. THIS IS NOT A MANDATE BY ANYTHING THAT THE COURT HAS TO ALLOW THIS DEVELOPMENT TO OCCUR BASED UPON THIS AGREEMENT. IF WE DON'T, THEN, YES, THE DEVELOPER IS ENTITLED TO BUILD OUT WHAT IS CURRENTLY ENTITLED WHICH FOLLOWS ALL COUNTY RULES. AND SO WE DON'T GET TO USE LAND USE AS A DECISION ON APPROVING PERMITS.
WE CAN ONLY USE THE RULES AND THE GUIDELINES THAT WE HAVE FROM THE STATE OF TEXAS. IF THE INDIVIDUAL WANTED MORE THAN 5,000 GALLONS PER DAY ON ONE LOT THAT WOULD BE A STATE PERMIT FOR THE WASTE WATER SYSTEM.
THAT'S WHAT HAPPENED THAT CASE. SOME OF THE STATEMENTS IN MENTIONING THE AGREEMENT. I THINK ONE PARAGRAPH IS PROBABLY A LITTLE BIT MISUNDERSTOOD.
AND THAT IS THAT THE COUNTY AND THE DECLARANT IF WE DON'T HAVE AN AGREEMENT FOR THE MOST PART AN ENTITLED RENTAL COMMUNITY WITH NO ARCHITECTURAL STANDARDS ET CETERA.
OUR ATTEMPT WAS TO GET SOME AGREEMENT THAT GAVE US SOME AUTHORITY. AND THE AUTHORITY COMES FROM THE ISSUANCE OF PERMITS IN THE FUTURE WHICH WOULD BE THE CONSTRUCTION OF WASTE WATER SYSTEMS THAT HAVEN'T BEEN CONSTRUCTED. THE 2 MAIN S THAT THE COUNTY WOULD ISSUE ON THE ENTITLED PART OF THE DEVELOPMENT.
DEVELOPER CAME TO THE COUNTY TO THAT'S NOT CONSTRUCTED IF THE DEVELOPER HAS NOT MEANT THE TERMS OF THE AGREEMENT THE COUNTY CAN WITH HOLD THAT PERMIT.
IF WE DON'T HAVE THAT AGREEMENT THE DEVELOPER CAN DEVELOP TOWARDS THE CURRENTLY PERMITTEDS IS AND WE WOULD HAVE TO GIVE HIM
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-- GIVE THE DEVELOPER THE PERMITS TO CONSTRUCT THOSE SYSTEMS, IN THOSE SYSTEMS, ET CETERA, PART OF THE ENGINEERED PLAN. WE DO NOT HAVE A REASON TO DENY ANY PERMIT AS LONG AS ALL OF OUR RULES ARE MET.OUR RULES DON'T ALLOW US TO SAY WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO USE THE PROPERTY FOR? WE DON'T GET TO SAY -- WE DON'T PERMIT THE SIZE OF THE BUILDING NECESSARILY ANY DIFFERENT.
THE LOOK OF THE BUILDING. WHETHER AN RV OR MINI HOME.
WHAT IT'S USED FOR. WE'RE FOLLOWING FOR THE MOST PART ON A CASE LIKE THIS. THE WORD LOOP HOLE HAS BEEN MENTIONED A FEW TIMES. NOT NECESSARILY A LOOP HOLE.
THE MECHANISM THAT HAPPENED WHICH WOULD NOT FALL IN LINE IF IT WERE TODAY VERSUS 3 YEARS AGO.
THIS PERMITTING PROCESS STARTED BEFORE THE ADOPTION OF A FIRE CODE. WHETHER THAT IS A LOOPHOLE NOW IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY EXIST IN THE FUTURE.
FOR INSTANCE SAY A DEVELOPER CAME IN ON AN EXACT SAME TRACT OF LAND AND SAID I WANTED TO BUILD 18 UNITS ON THIS TRACT OF LAND WITH 4 OR 5 WASTE WATER SYSTEMS. DEPENDING ON THE FIRE CODE THAT INDIVIDUAL WOULD HAVE TO GO THROUGH A SEPARATE PERMITTING PROCESS.
OR EVEN A STORAGE OF WATER FOR FIRE FIGHTING CAPABILITIES DEPENDING ON DIFFERENT CRITERIA. AND I'M NOT EXACTLY SURE WHAT THOSE WOULD BE NOW VERSUS IN THE PAST.
ONE DIFFERENCE IS THAT IF DEVELOPER CAME IN TODAY THEY WOULD BE GOING THROUGH A FIRE CODE PERMIT REVIEW AS WELL AS THEIR WASTE WATER AND THOSE FLOOD PLAIN CERTIFICATES.
IF THE COUNTY WERE TO CHOOSE NOT TO ENTER INTO AN AGREEMENT OR THE DEVELOPER CHOSE NOT TO ENTER INTO AN AGREEMENT HE WOULD BE HELD TO WHAT WAS PERMITTED PREVIOUSLY.
IF HE CHANGED THAT HE WOULD END UP IN A FIRE CODE REVIEW.
HE COULD CHOOSE TO DO THAT. THAT DOESN'T MEAN HE COULDN'T DO WHAT HE'S PROPOSING TO DO. THAT WOULD BE UP TO FIRE CODE.
AS FAR AS DENSITY GOES I'VE HEARD COMMENTS MADE.
I KNOW I HAVEN'T GOTTEN TO EVERYBODY.
I'M BEHIND ON SOME YESTERDAY. WE HAVE DENSITY REQUIREMENTS THROUGH OUR SUBDIVISION PROCESS OVER THE PRIORITY GROUND WATER MANAGEMENT AREA WHICH THIS COUNTY PUT IN PLACE AROUND 2009 OF A 6 ACRE LOT OR LARGER FOR ANY SUBDIVISION OVER 5 LOTS.
>> CORRECT. >> UTILIZING INDIVIDUAL PRIVATE
WELLS. >> USING PRIVATE WELLS.
THAT'S THE DENSITY REQUIREMENT THAT THE COUNTY HAS THAT GIVES US ABILITY FOR GROUND WATER AVAILABILITY IN DETERMINING LOT SIZES. WE PUT THAT IN PLACE IN 2009.
CREATE A SUBDIVISION OF MORE THAN 5 LOTS THEY WOULD HAVE TO BE 6 ACRES OR GREATER IF THEY'RE GOING TO DRILL A WELL.
IF THEY USE RAIN WATER THEY FALL INTO WHAT THAT GROUND CAN HOLD AS FAR AS WASTE WATER GOES. DEPENDS ON THE LAND THE TOPOGRAPHY, THE TYPE OF SOILS, ET CETERA.
IT COULD BE AN ACRE AND A HALF PER LARGE HOME ALL THE WAY UP TO 3 ACRES DEPENDING ON, AGAIN, THE SIZE OF THE HOME AND THE ACTUAL LAND, TYPE OF LAND GEOGRAPHY, GEOLOGY, TOPOGRAPHY ETSET.
SO GOING INTO RAIN WATER ONLY EVEN IF SOMEONE WERE TO SUBDIVIDE THROUGH THE SUBDIVISION PROCESS THEY WOULD NOT BE FOLLOWING A 6 ACRE MINIMUM LOT SIZE.
THEY WILL BE FOLLOWING WHAT WOULD THE LAND SUPPORT AS FAR AS TREATMENT WASTE WATER. I DID GET EMAILS ABOUT DENSITY.
OTHERWISE WE DON'T HAVE ANY AUTHORITY, NO COUNTY DOES TO DECIDE TO ISSUE OR NOT ISSUE PERMITS BASED UPON DENSITY.
WE TRIED IN OUR SUBDIVISION RULES TO ENCOURAGE LESS DENSE DEVELOPMENT. THAT IS ONE OF THE WAYS WE DO THAT. WE DO ENCOURAGE RAIN WATER IN LIEU OF GROUND WATER. THE QUESTION CAME UP AS FAR AS RAIN WATER, THE AGREEMENT REQUIRES THERE TO BE A RAIN WATER PLAN TO BE SUBMITTED OR A PERMIT WOULD NOT BE ISSUED.
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IF SOMEONE DIDN'T HAVE A PLAN FOR RAIN WATER THAT DIDN'T SUFFICIENTLY PROVIDE WATER FOR THE HOUSE.TRUCKED WATER IS AN ALTERNATIVE. THAT IS USED IN THE PAST IN RAIN WATER. WHEN HOUSES RUN OUT OF RAIN WATER THEY TRUCK WATER IN AND FILL UP THEIR TANK.
THAT WAY THAT HOMEOWNER KNOWS WHEN I BUY THIS HOUSE THAT IS RECORDED AND IT SAYS HERE'S HOW I'M GOING TO DEAL WITH THE SITUATION IF IT DOESN'T RAIN. WE ARE EXPERIENCING NOW THAT IS A REALITY. THEY UNDERSTAND IF I BUY THIS HOUSE AND IT DOESN'T RAIN I'M PAYING FOR SOMEONE TO HAUL IN WATER AND FILL UP THAT WATER TANK.
FOR THAT REASON WE DON'T HAVE THAT MANY RAIN WATER COMMUNITIES. IT USED TO BE A BARRIER FOR GETTING A LOAN FOR INDIVIDUAL RESIDENCES.
WATER AVAILABILITY HAS QUITE A BIT TO DO WITH PROPERTY VALUE AND USE OF PROPERTY. AND IF YOU CAN'T SAY THAT I HAVE WATER ON THIS PROPERTY, SOMETIMES BANKS HAVEN'T LOANED PROPERTY TO PEOPLE. THAT IS GOING AWAY FROM MY EXPERIENCE. RAIN WATER SYSTEMS ARE MORE PREVALENT. AND THE DESIGN OF FIXTURES REDUCED WATER CONSUMPTION IN HOUSES.
MOST OF THE TIMES RAIN WATER IS FEASIBLE EXCEPT IN TIMES OF DROUGHT. WHAT IF THE DEVELOPER WANTED TO DRILL WELLS TO PROVIDE WATER? IN THE CASE OF THIS, I DON'T SEE ANY WAY IT WOULD NOT BE A PUBLIC WATER SUPPLY.
WHICH MEANS THAT WOULD BE A PERMITTED WELL.
ANY OF US THAT LIVE ON A PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT HAVE A WELL, IT IS LIKELY EXEFT. YOU FILL OUT A FORM.
THE GROUND WATER DISTRICT GIVES YOUR DRILLER NOTICE TO PROCEED WITH THE DRILLING. IT IS NOT A PERMITTED WATER SUPPLY. TO DO A PUBLIC WATER SUPPLY YOU HAVE TO GET A PERMIT FROM THE GROUND WATER DISTRICT.
THEN YOU WOULD HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE STATE OF TEXAS TO GET A PUBLIC WATER SUPPLY PERMIT.
WHICH MEANS YOU HAVE TO HAVE A CERTAIN TYPE OF EQUIPMENT IN PLACE. IT HAS TO BE TESTED.
IT'S CONSIDERED PUBLIC WATER SUPPLY NOT EXEMPT SINGLE USE WATER SUPPLIES. I WOULD SAY THAT IS LIKELY PROBABLY NOT AN OPTION. THOUGH A DEVELOPER COULD CHOOSE TO DO THAT. IN THE CASE OF THIS AGREEMENT WE'RE SEEING THAT IT IS RAIN WATER ONLY.
IF WE DID AGREE TO THIS AGREEMENT, THE DEVELOPER WANTED TO DRILL A WELL AND DO PUBLIC WATER SUPPLY THEY HAVE TO GO TO THE COUNTY TO GET THAT DONE AS WELL AS GO TO THE DISTRICT AND THE STATE OF TEXAS FOR THE PUBLIC WATER SUPPLY.
I'M TRYING TO THINK OF QUESTIONS IN GENERAL.
BUT THAT ONE STATEMENT ABOUT THE CONDO REGIME ISN'T THAT THE COUNTY IS GIVING UP OUR RIGHTS. WE'RE ACKNOWLEDGING WE HAVE NO AUTHORITY RIGHT NOW TO REGULATE THE DEVELOPMENT ACCORDING TO THE WASTE WATER PERMITS THAT WERE ISSUED SEVERAL YEARS AGO.
WE'RE ACKNOWLEDGING THAT. WHETHER DEVELOPER WOULD TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION COMMENTS MADE TODAY ABOUT DENSITY, WATER, ET CETERA, IS TRULY UP TO THE DEVELOPER, THE COUNTY AND THE NEIGHBORS. IF THE DEVELOPER SAYS, WELL, I'M JUST GOING TO GO BACK TO WHAT I'M CURRENTLY ENTITLED FOR.
WHAT WE WILL DO IS RESPOND TO THOSE CONSTRUCTION PERMITS TO PUT IN THE WASTE WATER SYSTEMS AND IN THEM TO THEIR DESIGN, CURRENT DESIGN. AS LONG AS THEY ARE CONSTRUCTED TO THE DESIGN THAT THE COUNTY APPROVED SEVERAL YEARS AGO THEY WILL BE INSTALLED. AT THAT POINT THE ONLY OTHER REAL PERMIT IS A PERMIT THAT SAYS NONE OF THOSE STRUCTURES COULD BE BUILT WITHIN THE FLOOD PLAIN.
OTHERWISE THAT SUBDIVISION -- NOT A SUBDIVISION, THAT DEVELOPMENT WOULD BE PERMITTED. OUR ATTEMPT WAS TO GET SOME CONTROL OF ARCHITECTURAL STANDARDS.
SOME HOOK ON THE ISSUANCE OF THOSE PERMITS TO CONSTRUCT THE SYSTEMS THAT ARE YET TO BE CONSTRUCTED SO WE COULD DICTATE SOME THINGS. WHAT WE COULD DICTATE AT FIRST WAS FULL COUNTY STANDARDS, WHICH WOULD BE THE ACCESS ROAD WOULD BE WIDER. THE ACCESS ROAD WOULD HAVE TO BE PAVED AND I BELIEVE THAT'S PROBABLY FOR THE MOST PART WHERE OUR STANDARDS WOULD COME IN AS THE WASTE WATER SYSTEMS ARE CURRENTLY PERMITTED. AT THE TIME THE DEVELOPER SAID I PROBABLY WON'T DO THAT. I'M GOING TO STICK WITH WHAT I
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HAVE GOING ON RIGHT NOW. WHETHER WHAT WE HAVE IS ACCEPTABLE OR NOT FROM OUR VIEWPOINT IT WAS AT LEAST SOME CONTROL. FOR INSTANCE IT CAN'T BE RVS, MOBILE HOMES, GROUND WATER USE. WHETHER THAT'S ENOUGH TO SATISFY YOU ALL, OBVIOUSLY THAT'S YOU ALL'S INTEREST.I'VE HEARD FROM YOU AND UNDERSTAND THAT IS NOT ACCEPTABLE. MY DILEMMA IS IF WE DON'T FIND SOMETHING THAT DEVELOPER AGREES TO THAT GIVES US SOME TYPE OF CONTROL OF DEVELOPMENT WHETHER HIM OR SOMEONE ELSE THEY COULD CONSTRUCT AS PREVIOUSLY PERMITTED WHICH WOULD RESULT IN 4 OR 5S IS AND 15 TO 18 UNITS ACCORDING TO THOSE AUTHORIZATIONS THAT WERE PREVIOUSLY GRANTED.
SO I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH WAITING ON THIS FOR 2 MORE WEEKS TO ALLOW DEVELOPER TO ANSWER -- CONTINUE ANSWER THE QUESTIONS.
I HAVE BEEN ABLE TO ANSWER SOME EMAILS.
PEOPLE HAVE CONTACTED HIM. I REACHED OUT TO HIM YESTERDAY.
I KNOW HE WAS TALKING TO PEOPLE. IF THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN GET A BETTER AGREEMENT FROM THAT'S WORTH THE EFFORT THERE.
BUT WE DO HAVE TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION AT SOME POINT DEVELOPER MAY SAY I'M GOING TO MOVE FORWARD WITH MY PERMIT APPROVALS AND THAT WILL BE DECISION POINTS ULTIMATELY ARE MADE. DO YOU MIND.
>> I WAS GOING TO ASK MR. PACHECO TO WEIGH IN.
>> IF THERE'S A CLARIFYING POINT I COULD ADDRESS.
>> I HAVE A QUESTION. NONE OF US WERE NOTIFIED AS DEVELOPMENT. AS ADJACENT LAND OWNER I THINK I'VE HAD OTHER PLACES IN THE AREA GIVE ME NOTIFICATION SO I CAN BE AWARE OF IT AND GIVE COMMENT.
THERE WAS NO NOTIFICATION. NO SIGNAGE THAT ANY OF US SAW.
>> I CAN ADDRESS THAT. INITIALLY IT'S NOT A
SUBDIVISION. >> FOR THE VIEWING PUBLIC CAN
YOU STATE THE QUESTION. >> ABOUT NOTIFICATION TO ADJACENT LAND OWNERS OR LAND OWNERS WITHIN A DISTANCE OF PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT. WE SEE A SIGN GO UP WHEN SOMEONE IS PROPOSING TO SUBDIVIDE. IN TRACTS WHERE SUBDIVISION IS NOT APPLICABLE THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN FOR SOMEONE TO RECEIVE PERMITS FOR WASTE WATER OR A DRIVEWAY OR FLOOD PLAIN CERTIFICATES. SOMEONE HAS A TRACT OF LAND.
THEY COME TO THE COUNTY. THEY WANT TO BUILD A HOUSE.
THEY SUBMIT THEIR WASTE WATER PERMIT APPLICATION.
IT'S REVIEWED. THERE'S BACK AND FORTH.
THE ENGINEER MEETS THE RULES AND ADDRESSES THE COMMENTS THEIR STAFF HAS. THEY'RE GOING TO BUILD A HOUSE.
THEY COME TO THE COUNTY AND SAY I WANT A CERTIFICATE THAT SHOWS IT IS THE HOUSE WE'RE ABOUT TO BUILD IS NOT IN A FLOOD PLAIN.
IT DOESN'T ENTER INTO THE SUBDIVISION PROCESS.
THEY'RE NOT TECHNICALLY SUBDIVIDING LAND.
IN THIS CASE DEVELOPER WAS NOT REQUIRED TO SUBDIVIDE LAND.
IT WASN'T EACH A CONDO REGIME AT THAT POINT.
IT WAS THE CONSTRUCTION OF 4 OR 5 WASTE WATER SYSTEMS AND DWELLINGS. THERE IS NO TRUE SUBDIVISION PROCESS. I'LL LET MY ATTORNEY FIX ANYTHING I SAY IS WRONG. MORE THAN LIKELY ANYTIME I DESCRIBE THIS TYPE OF STUFF. IF THE DEVELOPER CAME IN AND WANTED TO SUBDIVIDE INTO LOTS WITH DWELLINGS ON THEM AND OWN WASTE WATER SYSTEMS AND WELLS THEN NOTICE WOULD HAVE GONE UP.
AT THAT TIME IT'S A SUBDIVISION WHICH FOLLOWS THAT PROCESS.
IF THE COUNTY IN OUR RULES AND HOW WE ADDRESS THE CONDO REGIME.
SOME YEARS AGO ADDRESSED THIS AS THEY WERE BECOMING MORE PREVALENT. STILL SOMEWHAT NEW.
WE'RE STARTING TO SEE MORE OF WHAT WE CALL THAT CONDO REGIME STRUCTURE. NOT INDIVIDUAL LOTS WITH A HOME ON A LAND. BUT WE'RE STARRING TO SEE PEOPLE DO DEVELOPMENT THAT IS DONE AS A CONDO REGIME INSTEAD OF INDIVIDUAL LOTS. SOME PEOPLE HAVE ALWAYS ARGUED AND SOME STILL DO THAT'S NOT A SUBDIVISION.
THAT CREATING ONE LOT CONDO REGIME IS NOT A SUBDIVISION.
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OUR RULES SAY THEY AGREE IT IS A SUBDIVISION AND THEY HAVE TO COME TO THE COUNTY AND WE TREAT IT LIKE A SUBDIVISION.IF SOMEONE WERE TO COME TO THE COUNTY RIGHT NOW AND SAY I WANT TO DO THIS CONDO REGIME WE'RE GOING TO TREAT THAT PURELY LIKE A SUBDIVISION OR USE A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT PROCESS THAT WE GET MORE CONTROL OVER WHAT OUR SUBDIVISION RULES HAVE IN PLACE TO BEGIN WITH. WE'RE REACTING TO SOMETHING THAT' ALREADY DONE. NOW SOMEONE WANTS TO COME IN AND DO THE CONDO. DO YOU MEET ALL THE COUNTY RULES GO THROUGH THE SUBDIVISION PROCESS.
IF WE DICTATE THINGS THAT WE BELIEVE ARE IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE PUBLIC. WE'LL GET SOME DENSITY SET BACK.
SAY YOU CAN'T HAVE A LOT THAT'S OVER LESS THAN 10 ACRES IN SIZE.
I WOULD USE THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT TO GET CONTROL THAT OTHERWISE WE WOULD NOT HAVE. WHAT THIS DISCUSSION IS ABOUT IS COUNTY AUTHORITY AND CONTROL OF DEVELOPMENT.
ANYONE PAYING ATTENTION KNOWS IT'S LIMITED TO A FEW THINGS.
COURT, ANY QUESTIONS, THINGS THAT I MISSED OR ADDRESSED
BEFORE I TURN IT OVER. >> I WOULD SAY ONE THING.
I KNOW THAT YOU'VE SAID THIS. I WANT TO SAY IT IN A VERY DIRECT AND SIMPLE WAY. THE COUNTY HAS NO ZONING AUTHORITY. THE ONLY AUTHORITY THAT WE HAVE ARE -- I GUESS IT WOULD BE 3 FOLD, FLOOD PLAIN, LET ME RUN THROUGH THEM. FLOOD PLAIN.
>> WASTE WATER. >> WASTE WATER.
>> AND ACCESS FROM A COUNTY ROAD.
THAT'S IT. AS WE LOOK AT THIS WE ALSO UNDER STATE LAW HAVE WHAT I REFER TO AS A MANDATE FOR APPROVAL.
ONCE A NUMBER OF THESE THINGS ARE SUBMITTED A CLOCK STARTS WITH THE STATE. WE DON'T HAVE -- IF THEY MEET THE REQUIREMENTS WE HAVE ON THE BOOKS WE DON'T HAVE THE TO SAY NO. IF THAT CLOCKS RUN OUT IF WE DON'T TAKE ACTION THEN THEY'RE AUTOMATICALLY APPROVED.
IT'S THE WAY STATE LAW AND STATUTE WORK.
I WOULD LOVE -- AS A MATTER OF FACT WE WERE AT A COUNTY COMMISSIONER AND JUDGES CONFERENCE THIS LAST WEEK.
AND I SAT ON THE RESOLUTIONS COMMITTEE FOR THAT TO ADOPT POLICIES WE WANT TO ADVOCATE FOR IN THE STATE CAPITOL IN THE NEXT
LEGISLATIVE SESSION. >> KEEP ASKING FOR IT.
>> LAND USE AUTHORITY WE DON'T HAVE.
I USE THE EXAMPLE WHILE YOU ALL ARE CONCERNED AND LIVE ON ELDER HILL ROAD AND MY PRECINCT IS SIGNAL HILL ROAD.
I HAVE A COMMUNITY IN THERE THAT WAS BUILT IN THE 90S.
LARGE 15 ACRE LOTS AND A COMMERCIAL ENTITY BOUGHT ONE OF THOSE LOTS THAT WAS RESIDENTIAL THAT HAD A HOUSE ON IT AND PUT A CONCRETE PLANT ON IT. WHEN THEY DID, THEY GOT 60 TO 80 TRUCKS EVERY MORNING AND EVENING GOING IN AND OUT OF THAT FACILITY IN A RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD.
WE AS A COUNTY CAN DO NOTHING ABOUT IT.
I'VE GOT -- I SAT HERE AND COUNTED 9 OTHER MEMBERS OF THE DRIFTWOOD HISTORICAL CONSERVATION SOCIETY THAT EMAILED ME OVER THE LAST 2 DAYS. THE 2 MEMBERS ON THIS END OF THE DIAS WORKED MORE CLOSELY WITH THAT ORGANIZATION POSSIBLY FORMER COMMISSIONER CONNELY, THOSE 3 ALONG WITH COMMISSIONER WIZZNAP WORK VERY VERY CLOSELY WITH THAT ORGANIZATION.
>> WE WERE AT ONE TOGETHER. >> IT BREAKS MY HEART THAT -- IT BREAKS MY HEART THAT WE ARE PUT IN A SITUATION FROM THE STATE THAT WE CANNOT ADDRESS SOME OF THESE THINGS.
WHAT I WILL TELL YOU THE USE OF THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT SIMILAR TO THIS GIVES US A HOOK THAT WE DON'T HAVE OTHERWISE.
MANY LOOK AT A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT LIKE THIS WHAT ARE YOU DOING, WHY WOULD YOU DO THIS? OTHERWISE THEY MOVE FORWARD WITH WHATEVER THEY WANT TO DO. THIS GIVES US AT LEAST SOME CREDIBLE WAY TO ADDRESS IT THAT WE DON'T HAVE THROUGH STATUTE.
>> THANK YOU, SIR. MR. PACHECO WANT TO GIVE YOU AN
OPPORTUNITY TO WEIGH IN. >> WHAT COMMISSIONER SHELL AND
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SMITH COVERED, COVERS A MAJORITY OF THE TERMS OF THE SITUATION WITH THIS DEVELOPMENT. I'LL BACK TRACK FURTHER.WON'T GO TOO MUCH IN DETAIL. COMMISSIONER SHELL POINTED OUT THE HISTORY OF IT. THIS TRACT OF LAND HAS ON FILE WITH OUR COUNTY CLERK OFFICE A 10 ACRE EXEMPTION THAT EXEMPTS THEM FROM THE PLATTING REQUIREMENTS THAT A LOCAL JURISDICTION WOULD ENFORCE. PURSUANT TO THE CONDOMINIUM REGIME THIS DEVELOPMENT HAS AN EXEMPTION FROM PLATTING FROM THE CURRENT PLAN WHICH IS AROUND 15-16 LONG TERM RENTAL UNITS SERVED BY 5 SEPTIC SYSTEMS. THERE'S ALREADY A PLAN IN PLACE DUE TO CHANGES BY THE DEVELOPER WANTING TO MOVE TO A CONDOMINIUM REGIME WHICH IS ALONG CONVEYANCE OF THOSE UNITS WHY WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PLATTING TODAY. POINTED OUT TO OUR REGULATIONS DICTATE THAT THE CONVEYANCE OF A UNIT THROUGH A CONDOMINIUM REGIME PROCESS WOULD CONSTITUTE A PLAT.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE PLATASPECT FOR THE CONDO REGIME THAT HIGHLIGHTS THOSE ELEMENTS OF THE DEVELOPMENT .
THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT MENTIONED THIS MORNINGS IS A WAY FOR US TO CAPTURE PUBLIC HEALTH AND SAFETY ITEMS THAT RIGHT NOW WE CAN'T ENFORCOR THE PROPERTY DUE TO THE EXEMPTION.
THE AGREEMENT ALLOWS AN AVENUE TO REQUEST THAT.
COUNTY AND DEVELOPER MEET IN THE MIDDLE WITH A COMMON GROUND.
WHEN THAT AGREEMENT GOES AWAY DEVELOPER CAN CONTINUE HIS ORIGINAL 15 PLUS LONG TERM UNITS WITHOUT MEASURES FOR WATER AVAILABILITY. ROAD ACCESS.
SO ON AND SO FORTH. I WANTED TO PROVIDE CONTEXT TO THE SITUATION AT HAND AND SHAPE QUESTIONS THAT THE COURT OR
PUBLIC HAND. >> LET ME CLARIFY THAT.
I DON'T WANT TO GLOSS OVER WHAT HE SAID.
IF THERE IS A CONVEYANCE OF THE PROPERTY THAT'S HOW WE GET A HOOK INTO IT. IN OTHER WORDS IF THEY HAVE ACTUAL UNITS AND SELL THOSE UNITS IN THE CONDO, WE ACTUALLY HAVE -- THAT'S WHERE THIS DA WOULD COME INTO EFFECT.
WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO THAT. RIGHT NOW THEY COULD DO LONG TERM RENTALS THERE AND UNDER STATE LAW WE HAVE NO IMPACT ON IT WHATSOEVER. THAT'S THE REASON THE DA IS IMPORTANT. DOES THAT MAKE SENSE TO YOU ALL.
WHENEVER I GLOSS OVER AND SAY A CONVEYANCE OF THE PROPERTY THOSE
ARE UNITS THAT COULD BE SOLD. >> I GUESS THE OTHER CONCERNS THAT ARE MENTIONED WITH THE SEPTIC COMPONENTS.
SOME OF THE QUESTIONS ABOUT THE SPRAY, THE DISBURSAL OF THE SYSTEM, THE DISBURSEMENTS OF CREEKS, FLOOD PLAINS ET CETERA.
ALL THOSE ELEMENTS WERE CAPTURED DURING THE THE REVIEW OF THOSE SAID SYSTEMS. EACH THOUGH WE'RE TALKING ABOUT COUNTY DEVELOPMENTAL REGULATIONS. WHICH IS ON SITE SEWAGE FACILITIES IS A TERM FOR SEPTIC SYSTEMS. IN ADDITION TO CHAPT 285 RULES WHICH OVERSEE ON SITE SEWAGE FACILITIES AS WELL. SET BACK DISTANCES FROM CREEKS.
OTHER SENSITIVE FEATURES. SPRAY RADIUS DISTANCES AND ALSO HUNDRED YEAR FLOOD PLAIN PRESENCE ALL WERE REVIEWED AND THERE WAS NO -- MET ALL THE RULES AND REQUIREMENTS PER OUR
RULES AND STATE RULES. >> I SEE 3 THINGS TO TOUCH ON QUICK. MUCH HAS BEEN SAID.
I APPRECIATE COMMISSIONER SHELL'S DILIGENCE AND ARTICULATION OF ALL THE COMMENTS AND HIGHS AND LOWS OF THIS.
AND ALTHOUGH WE DON'T HAVE TO PROVIDE BECAUSE OF THE SUBDIVISION TRIGGER OUR RESIDENTS WE ARE IN CHARGE OF REPRESENTING. I HAVE EVERYONE'S ADDRESS HERE I'D LIKE YOU MOVING FORWARD THERE'S A CHANCE WE TABLE THIS.
I WANT TO MAKE SURE THEY'RE INFORMED AND HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME BACK. YOU HAVE GONE THROUGH QUITE A BIT. SAT HERE FOR HOURS.
I KNOW HOW MUCH TIME AND ENERGY THAT REALLY TAKES.
I REALLY DO. IT'S MY JOB TO BE HERE.
IT'S NOT YOURS. YOU VOTED FOR US.
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I WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU HAVE THE CHOICE MOVING FORWARD TO KNOW THAT WE ARE GOING TO HOLD YOUR INTERESTS AND CONCERNS FRESH IF WE TABLE THIS NEXT TIME WE COME TOGETHER.CLEARLY IT SEEMS AS THOUGH YOU WEREN'T.
NUMBER 2, I WANTED TO ASK ABOUT THE FIRE MARSHAL COMPONENT.
COMMISSIONER SHELL MENTIONED THE GRANDFATHERING IN PREFIRE CODE.
THE CURRENT FIRE CODE CREATES FURTHER RESTRICTIONS IS THAT
RIGHT? >> I DON'T KNOW WE COULD SAY THAT NECESSARILY. THERE IS A NUMBER OF UNIT
THRESHOLD AT SOME POINT. >> THAT IS 30 UNITS.
>> SO 30 UNITS TRIGGERS ADDITIONAL REQUIREMENTS.
I DON'T KNOW IF BELOW THAT WOULD OR WOULD NOT.
IT IS SOMETHING THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE UNDER REVIEW THAT IS SEPARATE FROM WHAT WE HAVE SEEN ON THIS NOW.
IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT IT WOULD KEEP IT FROM BEING POSSIBLE
NECESSARILY. >> THE OTHER THING IS PRIOR TO 2020 THERE WAS A FIRE MARSHAL REVIEW IT WAS THE ENFORCEMENT PORTION THAT WAS NOT THERE. MARCUS, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG.
THERE WOULD HAVE TO BE THAT FIRE MARSHAL REVIEW AS TO WHAT WAS
PRIOR TO 2020. >> FOR THE MOST PART SOME OF THE THINGS WE'VE ASKED FOR IN THE DEVELOPER AGREEMENT IS TO ADDRESS CONCERNS FOR WHAT WOULD BE FROM AN EMERGENCY SITUATION.
WE CAN'T DICTATE THAT OUTSIDE OF THAT.
WE'RE TRYING TO AT LEAST TAKE INTO ACCOUNT WHAT HAPPENS IF THERE IS FLOOD OR FIRE IN HAYS COPYRIGHT IS WHAT YOU'RE WORRIED ABOUT. FIRST RESPONDERS THEIR BIGGEST CONCERN IS ACCESS TO THE PROPERTY.
EASILY ACCESSED. HOW CAN I GET ON TO THE PROPERTY? THE SECOND ONE IS IF PEOPLE ARE LEAVING THE PROPERTY AND I'M TRYING TO GET ON THE PROPERTY HOW DO WE MAKE SURE THAT'S POSSIBLE? THOSE ARE THE THINGS WE'VE DICTATED IS TO ADDRESS PURE EMERGENCY RESPONSE. THE OTHER THING WE DON'T HAVE THE 80 TO DO OUTSIDE OF AN AGREEMENT IS ROAD MAINTENANCE.
IF WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING IN PLACE THE COUNTY HAS 0 CONTROL OF WHAT HAPPENS WITH -- RELATIVE TO ROAD MAINTENANCE.
ALTHOUGH IT'S A PRIVATE ROAD. IT'S A PRIVATE ROAD NOT A COUNTY ROAD WHAT DO YOU CARE ABOUT THE CONDITION OF THE ROAD.
WE CARE ABOUT PUBLIC SAFETY CONCERN, CAN AN AMBULANCE FIRE TRUCK GET TO THIS PROPERTY AND 2 CAN THE PEOPLE GET OUT IF WE DON'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO THAT.
UNFORTUNATELY WHAT WE'VE SEEN AND SEEN A LOT IN THE WESTERN PART OF THE COUNTY ARE PRIVATE ROADS THAT BECOME NOT MAINTAINED AND HAZARDOUS TO PUBLIC SAFETY. WE AS A COUNTY HAVE ALMOST NO WAY TO CORRECT THAT AFTER THE FACT, BECAUSE EXCEPT FOR ONE PROCESS WE HAVE FOR TAKING PRIVATE ROADS IN THE SYSTEM REQUIRES THE OWNERS OF THE LOTS PAYING THE COUNTY AN AMOUNT OF MONEY TO GET THE COUNTY BUILT TO A COUNTY STANDARD WHICH IS HARD TO DO TO ADDRESS THAT. OTHERWISE A COUNTY OF OUR SIZE DOES NOT HAVE THE ABILITY TO WORK ON PRIVATE ROADS.
I HAVE SEVERAL IN MY PRECINCT THAT I UNDERSTAND COMPLETELY THE RESIDENTS CONCERN ABOUT MAINTENANCE.
SOMETHING THAT NO ONE OR TWO OR THREE PROPERTY ROADS CAN HIRE SOMEONE TO FIX. SO WE'RE TRYING TO AT LEAST PREVENT THAT FROM HAPPENING AND MAKE SURE FUNDS HAVE TO GO TOWARDS THAT. THAT IS ONE THING WE CAN DICTATE ALONG WITH HOA RULES AS A RENTAL COMMUNITY WE WOULD HAVE NO ABILITY TO DICTATE THE PROPERTY USE.
UNLESS DEVELOPER GIVES UP THAT AUTHORITY.
WHICH IN THIS CASE THAT'S WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR.
THERE HAS TO BE A TRUE HOA COMMITTED.
FUNDS THAT HAVE TO GO INTO A POT OF MONEY.
THERE HAS TO BE RULES THAT AT LEAST DO NOT ALLOW MOBILE HOMES, RVS AND THINGS TO BECOME THE RESIDENCES OUT THERE.
SO WHAT ANYWHERE IN BETWEEN OF WHERE WE ARE ONE OF MY STATEMENTS WOULD BE WHERE WE ARE OF WHAT WE HAVE OF WHAT IS
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ACCEPTABLE TO ALL PARTIES MORE THAN WILLING TO GO THROUGH THAT -- THAT WITH ANYONE. IN THE END IT'S GOING TO COME UP YOU TO WHAT DEVELOPER IS WILLING TO ACCEPT BEFORE DEVELOPER TAKES THE EXISTING PATH OF DEVELOPMENT.THAT'S WHERE WE ARE. >> THAT LEADS ME TO THE THIRD PART OF MY COMMENTS WHICH IS COMMISSIONER SHELL IS A WELL QUALIFIED REPRESENTATIVE, SPECIFICALLY IN THIS LANE ABSOLUTELY. AND SO I HAVE CONFIDENCE THAT HE WILL REPRESENT YOUR THOUGHT PROCESS MOST COMPLETELY. I BELIEVE I HEARD COMMISSIONER SHELL SAY HE'S WILLING TO TABLE THIS ITEM TO ALLOW THE DEVELOPER TO TAKE THESE QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, CONCERNS INTO ACCOUNT AND SEE IF AND HOW IT COULD MOVE THE NEEDLE ON THE EFFORT.
IF COMMISSIONER SHELL TABLES IT, I WILL SECOND IT, SO WE CAN BRING IT BACK WITH MORE COMPLETE INTERACTION NOW THAT YOUR COMMENTS HAVE BEEN PUT IN THIS COURT OF RECORD.
IT DIDN'T GO IN THE WIND. COURT OF RECORD.
HAD IS HERE FOREVER. REST ASSURED YOUR TIME AND ENERGY IS AREN'T WASTED. IF COMMISSIONER SHELL MAKES A MOTION TO TABLE THIS TO ALLOW THAT CONVERSATION TO CONTINUE.
WE'LL BRING IT BACK AND LET YOU KNOW ABOUT.
>> COMMISSIONER SMITH REPRESENTS A PORTION OF NOT MOST OF THOSE THAT COMMENTED. HE FEELS THE SAME WAY.
I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM TELLING THE DEVELOPER, WOULD YOU DO THIS. WE WILL SEE WHAT THAT ANSWER IS.
IS IT A REDUCTION IN DENSITY? WHAT ARE THE THINGS THAT CAN BE DONE? IN THE END WE COME TO A POINT WHERE DEVELOPER SAYS I WILL OR WILL NOT CONSIDER THESE THINGS BEFORE I GO DOWN THIS OTHER PATH.
WE'VE GIVEN THAT A SHOT. I DON'T GET INTO -- THOUGH I -- I FULLY UNDERSTAND THE PERSPECTIVE OF A NEIGHBOR.
WE -- IT'S UNTIL YOU'VE HAD IT HAPPEN WHEN SOMETHING IS BEING CONSTRUCTED ALONG YOUR FENCE LINE OR DOWN THE ROAD YOU LIVE IN THAT YOU CONSIDER NOT COMPATIBLE WITH WHY YOU BOUGHT THAT HOUSE I UNDERSTAND COMPLETELY.
IT'S SOMETHING WE ALL HAVE THE SAME FEELINGS ABOUT.
IT'S A WEEKLY OCCURRENCE IN THIS COUNTY.
WHETHER A CONSTRUCTION OF A BATCH PLANT IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD OR A QUARRY OR ANYTHING ELSE WE ALL UNDERSTAND THAT FEELING OF HOPELESSNESS OF WHO IS HERE TO PROTECT MY PROPERTY.
TEXAS IS A PROPERTY RIGHTS STATE.
HOW DOES IT PROTECT THE RIGHTS OF THE PERSON ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE FENCE IS PREVALENT IN EVERYTHING WE DO.
>> COMMISSIONER SHELL AND SMITH ARE YOU GOOD WITH TABLING.
>> I'VE OFFERED THAT TO START A DISCUSSION.
I KNOW FROM MY CONVERSATION WITH DEVELOPER HE HAS BEEN SPEAKING WITH FOLKS. THE DRIFTWOOD HISTORICAL CONSERVATION SOCIETY HAS BEEN A GOOD PARTNER IN THAT AREA.
I ENCOURAGE THAT COMMUNICATION TO TAKE PLACE RIGHT NOW TO SEE IF THERE ARE THINGS THAT THEY COULD RECOMMEND THAT WOULD
AGREEABLE TO ALL PARTIES. >> PERFECT.
>> QUITE LITERALLY IF THIS DEVELOPMENT WAS ACROSS THE ROAD IT WOULD BE IN MY PRECINCT. I REPRESENT ONE SIDE IS OF ELDER
HILL. >> CAN WE GET A MOTION AND A
SECOND. >> I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO TABLE
>> PLEASE CALL THE ROLE. >> COMMISSIONER JONES.
>> YES. >> COMMISSIONER INGALSBE.
>> YES. >> COMMISSIONER SMITH.
>> YES. OUR DIRECTOR AGREED TO MAKE SURE HE COMMUNICATES WITH YOU HERE. MOVING FORWARD YOU STAY UP TO SPEED. THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR TIME AND KNOW THAT WE ARE DOING OUR PART TO REPRESENT YOU AND YOUR INTERESTS AND HAVE A WONDERFUL DAY.
[Items G1 - G10, G12 - G17]
AND IF THERE'S NOTHING ELSE ON THAT SPACE.OPEN ITEM 1 THROUGH 17 EXCLUDING 11.
>> G1 APPROVE PAYMENTS OF COUNTY INVOICES.
G2 APPROVE THE PAYMENT OF JUROR CHECKS.
G3. PROOF THE PAYMENT OF UNITED
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HEALTHCARE CLAIMS. G4.APPROVE THE PAYMENT OF JUNE 30, 2022 PAYROLL DISBURSEMENTS IN THE AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $4100,000 EFFECTIVE JUNE 30TH, 2022. 5.
AUTHORIZE PAYMENT OF $806.70 TO CORNERSTONE DETENTION PRODUCT INC. FOR THE JAIL RELATED TO REPAIRS TO A SEPARATION DOOR AND FOOD PORT LOCKS WHERE NO PURCHASE ORDER WAS IN PLACE AS REQUIRED PER COUNTY POLICY. G6 APPROVE UTILITY S.
G7. AUTHORIZE PAYMENT TO CARD SERVICE CENTER FOR LODGING AT THE TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT CONFERENCE IN WHICH NO PURCHASE ORDER WAS ISSUED AS REQUIRED PER HAYS COUNTY PURCHASING POLICY.
8. AUTHORIZE THE COUNTY CLERK'S OFFICE TO PURCHASE 2ARE FILE STAMPERS FROM THE NATIONAL DATE STAMP FOR THE COUNTY CLERK COURTS DIVISION AND AMEND THE BUDGET ACCORDINGLY. 9, ACCEPT THE FISCAL YEAR 2021 HAYS COUNTY EMERGENCY SERVICES DISTRICT 3 AUDIT REPORT PER TEXAS HEALTH AND SAFETY CODE 775.082.
10, RECEIVE ANNUAL ROAD REPORTS FOR EACH PRECINCT AS REQUIRED BY THE TEXAS TRANSPORTATION CODE SECTIONS 251.005.
G12, AUTHORIZE A WAIVER TO THE PURCHASING POLICY FOR THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE TO USE EXISTING FUNDS TO PURCHASE TWO MOTOR ONE WIRELESS SHOULDER MICS AND AMEND THE BUDGET ACCORDINGLY.
13, AUTHORIZE THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE TO USE EXISTING FUNDS TO PURCHASE AN 80 INCH RAM BAR FROM LENCO ARMORED VEHICLES.
AUTHORIZE A DISCRETIONARY EXEMPTION PURSUANT TO TEXAS LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE CHAPTER 262.024 A 7D AND AMEND THE BUDGET ACCORDING. 14, AUTHORIZE A WAIVER TO THE PURCHASING POLICY FOR THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE TO USE EXISTING FUNDS TO PURCHASE THE WRAP BY SAFE RESTRAINTS INC. 15, AMEND VARIOUS DEPARTMENTMENTAL ARE OPERATING SPECIAL REVENUE AND CAPITAL PROJECT BUDGETS IN PREPARATION FOR FY2022 MIDYEAR FINANCIAL REPORTING. 16, AUTHORIZE THE COUNTY JUDGE TO EXECUTE A CONTRACT AMENDMENT BETWEEN HAYS COUNTY AND KYLE LANDSCAPING SERVICES. ADDING ANTIOCH CEMETERY 140 PER VISIT FOR THE FRONT AREA AND 240 AS DIRECTED FOR THE BACK AREA.
17, APPROVE SPECIFICATIONS FOR IFB2022B14 METAL BEAM GUARD FENCE MATERIALS AND AUTHORIZE PURCHASING TO SOLICIT FOR BIDS.
>> WE HAD SEVERAL ITEMS FOR THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE.
I WANTED TO REMIND US TO KEEP HIM IN OUR PRAYERS.
ESPECIALLY HIS WIFE CAROL. >> PLEASE CALL THE ROLE.
>> COMMISSIONER INGALSBE. >> YES.
>> COMMISSIONER SMITH. >> COMMISSIONER SHELL.
[Items G18 - G23]
>> YES. >> COMMISSIONER JONES.
>> 18, AUTHORIZE THE WAIVER TO THE PURCHASING POLICY AND AMEND THE CONSTABLE PRECINCT 2 OPERATING BUDGET FOR THE INCREASED COST FOR A MOTOR ONE WIRELESS SHOULDER MIC FOR THE MOTOR UNIT. SECTION 2A1112.
20, AUTHORIZE THE COUNTY JUDGE TO EXECUTE A FIRST AMENDMENT AND A SECOND AMENDMENT TO THE MASTER SERVICES AGREEMENT WITH SECURUS TECHNOLOGIES LLC RELATED TO ELECTRONIC MAIL AND FIELD SERVICE TECHNICIAN. 21 AMEND THE CONSTABLES OPERATING BUDGET RELATED TO LAW ENFORCEMENT EQUIPMENT FOR VEHICLES APPROVED IN THE FY2022 BUDGET PROCESS.
22, AUTHORIZE THE HAYS COUNTY COMMISSIONER'S COURT TO SUBMIT A
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REQUEST FOR FUNDS PURSUANT TO THE TEXAS PROPERTY CODE.23 APPROVE EXTENSION OF RFP2016-P06 BANK DEPOZ TORY WITH SAGE CAPITAL BANK NA FOR A PERIOD NOT TO EXCEED 92 DAYS AND AUTHORIZE A DISCRETONARY EXEMPTION PURSUANT TO TEGS TEX
LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE. >> SO MOVED.
>> SECONDISM ANY COMMENTS. PLEASE CALL THE ROLE.
>> COMMISSIONER SMITH. >> YES.
>> COMMISSIONER INGALSBE. >> YES.
>> COMMISSIONER JONES. >> YES.
>> COMMISSIONER SHELL. >> YES.
[I1. Discussion and possible action to approve the selection of WSB Inc. to review Traffic Impact Analyses for certain proposed residential and commercial developments in Hays County. JONES/BORCHERDING]
>> JUDGE BECERRA. >> I HOPE THAT SAGE THING COMES
TO A DECISION. >> I1 DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO APPROVE SELECTION OF WSB.
>> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
PLEASE CALL THE ROLE. >> COMMISSIONER SHELL.
>> YES. >> COMMISSIONER JONES.
>> YES. >> COMMISSIONER SMITH.
[I2. Discussion and possible action to call for a public hearing on July 5, 2022 to establish a 3-way stop location on Goforth Road at the intersection with High Road. INGALSBE/BORCHERDING]
DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO CALL FOR A PUBLIC HEARING ON JULY 5TH, 2022 TO ESTABLISH A 3 WAY STOP LOCATION ON GOFORTH ROAD AT THE INTERSECTION OF HIGH ROAD.
>> COMMISSIONER SHELL. >> YES.
>> COMMISSIONER SMITH. >> YES.
[I3. Discussion and possible action to accept fiscal surety for the construction of roadway and drainage improvements in the amount of $4,800,135.72 for Sunset Oaks, Section 1,Phase 2 Subdivision (Bond # 08BSBIW4813). INGALSBE/BORCHERDING]
>> COMMISSIONER INGPERFECT. >> YES.
I3. DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO ACCEPT FISCAL SUR TEE FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF ROADWAY AND DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENTS IN THE AMOUNT OF $4800135.72 FOR SUN SET OAKS SECTION 1 PHASE 2 SUBDIVISION.
>> CALL THE ROAD. >> COMMISSIONER SHELL.
>> YES. >> COMMISSIONER SMITH.
>> YES. >> COMMISSIONER INGALSBE.
>> YES. >> COMMISSIONER JONES.
[I4. Discussion and possible action to authorize the County Judge to execute Contract Amendment No. 3 in the amount of $112,000.00 to the Professional Services Agreement between Hays County and Cobb Fendley & Associates, Inc. for Utility Coordination Services on the TxDOT/Hays County FM110 North Partnership Project and authorize a discretionary exemption pursuant to Texas Local Government Code, Ch.262.024(a)(4). INGALSBE/BORCHERDING]
>> I4 DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO AUTHORIZE THE COUNTY JUDGE TO EXECUTE CONTRACT AMENDMENT NUMBER 3 IN THE AMOUNT OF $112,000 TO THE PROFESSIONAL SERVICES AGREEMENT BETWEEN HAYS COUNTY AND COB FENDLY AND ASSOCIATES FOR UTILITY
COORDINATION SERVICES. >> SO MOVED.
>> SECOND. >> PLEASE CALL THE ROLE.
>> COMMISSIONER JONES. >> YES.
>> COMMISSIONER INGALSBE. >> YES.
>> COMMISSIONER SHELLISM YES. >> COMMISSIONER SMITH.
[I5. Discussion and possible action to authorize the County Judge to execute Supplemental Work Authorization #1 to Work Authorization #3 of the Professional Services Agreement between Hays County and Binkley & Barfield Inc. related to the Windy Hill Project; authorize a discretionary exemption pursuant to Texas Local Government Code, Ch.262.024(a)(4) and amend the budget accordingly. JONES/BORCHERDING]
>> I5. DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO AUTHORIZE THE COUNTY JUDGE TO EXECUTE SUPPLEMENTAL WORK AUTHORIZATION NUMBER 1 TO WORK AUTHORIZATION NUMBER 3 OF THE PROFESSIONAL SERVICES AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE HAYS COUNTY AND BINKLY AND BARFIELD INC. RELATED TO THE WINDY HILL PROJECT.
>> PLEASE CALL THE ROLE. >> COMMISSIONER INGALSBE.
>> YES. >> COMMISSIONER SHELL.
>> YES. >> COMMISSIONER JONES ITCH
[I6. Discussion and possible action to authorize the County Judge to execute Supplemental Work Authorization #2 to Work Authorization #1 of the Professional Services Agreement between Hays County and Binkley & Barfield Inc. related to the Windy Hill Project and amend the budget accordingly. BORCHERDING/JONES]
YESISM COMMISSIONER SMITH. >> YES.
NUMBER 6. >> DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO AUTHORIZE THE COUNTY JUDGE TO EXECUTE SUPPLEMENTAL WORK AUTHORIZATION NUMBER 2 WORK AUTHORIZATION NUMBER 1.
>> PLEASE CALL THE ROLISM COMMISSIONER SMITH.
>> YES. >> COMMISSIONER SHELL.
[I7. Discussion and possible action to adopt a Resolution and Order Closing, Abandoning, and Vacating a portion of Right of Way, formerly platted as Crestwood Street, in Precinct 3; to authorize execution of a deed reflecting said abandonment; and to authorize execution of an Easement Agreement for Access related to the portion of the Right of Way that will remain accessible to the public. SHELL]
>> I7 DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION TO ADOPT A RESOLUTION AND ORDER CLOSING, A BOND ONNING AND VACATING A PORTION OF RIGHT OF WAY, TERMERLY PLATTED AS CRESTWOOD STREET IN PRECINCT 3.
>> PLEASE JUDGE. JUST KIND OF AN INTERESTING ITEM I'D LIKE MR. PACHECO TO EXPLAIN QUICKLY.
I DON'T KNOW THAT WE CAN SAY THIS WAS PLATTED AS A FUTURE PUBLIC ROADWAY IN CASE SOMEONE EVER DETERMINED THAT IT WAS.
WE WOULD LIKE TO MAKE SURE WE SAY IT ISN'T.
NEVER MAINTAINED BY THE COUNTY. ALWAYS FENCED AND GATED.
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IT WAS PLATTED TO BE IN THE CITY OF SAN MARCOS.THEY STOPPED THE PROCESS. THIS IS WHAT WAS LEFT.
IT LOOKS LIKE SOMEONE MIGHT CONSIDER THIS TO BE A PUBLIC
RIGHT OF WAY. >> JUDGE AND COMMISSIONERS, YOU MAY BE FAMILIAR WITH THIS IN YOUR RESPECTIVE PRECINCTS WE SEE WHAT ARE KNOWN AS PAPER ROADS. ROADS THAT MIGHT HAVE BEEN A FOOT PRINT FOR A SUBDIVISION THAT THE ACCESS WOULD BE CREATING FOR THESE LOTS. THIS DEVELOPMENT IS ONE IN QUESTION IS A SUBDIVISION THAT NEVER CAME TO A FRUITION.
NEVER RECORDED APPROVED. NO FORMAL ACTION TAKEN PLACE BY SAID CITY. IT ENDS UP BEING A VACANT PIECE OF ROAD. THROUGH CONVERSATIONS OR INFORMATION BEING PASSED FROM ONE TO ANOTHER.
IT WAS A ROAD. USED TO BE MAINTAINED BY HAYS COUNTY. SO IT ENDS UP BEING A SITUATION WHERE A LOT OF LOOKING AROUND AND A LOT OF DIGGING FOR
INFORMATION AND DON'T FIND MUCH. >> HERE'S THE CLEAN UP.
HERE'S WHERE IT ENDS. >> WHAT'S INTERESTING IN A CASE LIKE THIS. I HAVE 15 OF THESE THAT I FOUND IN THE LAST 3 YEARS THAT WILL NEVER HAPPEN.
WE RUN ACROSS ANOTHER ONE FOR EXAMPLE WHERE WE BUILT THE ROAD AT PATRIOTS HALL THAT HAD BEEN ON THE BOOKS FOR LITERALLY 3 DECADES AND NEVER BEEN CONSTRUCTED AND WE NEEDED TO CONSTRUCT THE ROADWAY. I APPRECIATE MR. PACHECO AND HIS FOLKS LOOKING AT THEM. SOME OF THEM ARE VALID STILL.
90% OF THEM ARE NOT. >> RIGHT ON.
PLEASE CALL THE ROLE. >> COMMISSIONER JONES.
>> COMMISSIONER SMITH. >> YES.
[I8. Discussion and possible action to call for a public hearing on July 5, 2022 to establish 4-way stop locations on Mathias Lane at the intersection with Texas Ash Drive and at the intersection with Spider Lily Drive. INGALSBE/BORCHERDING]
>> COMMISSIONER INGALSBE. >> YES.
DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO CALL FOR A PUBLIC HEARING ON JULY 5TH, 2022 TO ESTABLISH 4 WAY STOP LOCATIONS ON MATHIAS LANE AT THE INTERSECTION OF TEXAS ASH DRIVE AND THE
INTERSECTION WITH SPIDER LILY. >> SO MOVED.
>> MORE SAFETY. >> THEY FIRST WANTED TO LOOK AT SPEED BUFS. IT WAS MORE APPROPRIATE TO PUT
IN 4 WAY STOPS. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH.
CALL THE ROLE. >> COMMISSIONER INGALSBE.
[J1. PLN-1710-NP; Camino Real Takedown 1, Preliminary Plan (458 Lots). Discussion and possible action to approve preliminary plan. INGALSBE/PACHECO]
>> J1. PLN1710NF CAMINO REAL TAKE DOWN
>> SO THE CAMINO REAL TAKE DOWN 1 PRELIMINARY PLAN IS A 458 LOT SUBDIVISION LOCATED ACROSS 122 ACRES IN PRECINCT 1.
450 WILL BE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL HOMES.
A CONSIDERABLE AMOUNT OF HOMES COMING INTO THE AREA.
6 WILL BE OPEN SPACE. ONE AMENITY CENTER LOT.
AND ONE LOT FOR A WASTE WATER TREATMENT PLAN.
WATER WILL BE SERVICED BY GOFORTH'S SPECIAL UTILITY DISTRICT. THERE ARE NO VARIANCES REQUESTED AND THIS PRELIM PLAN HAS FULL STAFF RECOMMENDATION.
>> ALL RIGHT. >> LARGE SUBDIVISION.
>> TRYING TO CATCH UP WITH US. >> I'VE BEEN DOING THAT FOR A
EAST SIDE IS BOOMING. PLEASE CALL THE ROLE.
>> COMMISSION SER INGALSBE. >> YES.
>> COMMISSIONER SMITH. >> YES.
[K0. Discussion and possible action to consider granting a variance to Section 10.W.1 of the Hays County Rules for On- Site Sewage Facilities and allow issuance of On-Site Sewage System permit to the owner of 401 Kothmann Road. SHELL/PACHECO]
>> COMMISSIONER JONES. >> YES.
>> K0 DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO CONSIDER GRANTING A VARIANCE TO SECTION 10.W.1 OF THE HAYS COUNTY RULES FOR ON SITE SEWAGE FACILITIES AND ALLOW ISSUANCE OF ON SITE SEWAGE
SYSTEM PERMIT TO OWN. >> SO MOVED.
>> SECOND. >> THIS SUBDIVISION SO THE LOT IS REQUIRED TO BE PLATTED IN ORDER TO GET THE PERMIT APPROVED FOR A NEW WASTE WATER SYSTEM. THEY WENT THROUGH THE PROCESS.
HOWEVER ONE OF THE OWNERS OF THE LOT THAT'S BEING CREATED BY THE SUBDIVISION WAS NOT CURRENT ON THEIR TAXES.
AND WE ARE NOT -- SO THEREFORE THE PLATCANNOT BE FILED AT THE
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CLERK'S OFFICE UNTIL EVERYONE IS CURRENT WITH THEIR TAXES.THE INDIVIDUAL THAT NEEDED TO BE PLATTED THAT DID EVERYTHING THEY SHOULD TO GET WASTE WATER SYSTEM IS PERMITTED ON THEIR TAXES.
WE CAN'T FINALIZE THE TECHNICALITY OF THE RECORDING.
IS THAT CORRECT? >> THAT'S CORRECT, COMMISSIONER.
IT WAS A 2 LOT PLATTHAT WE APPROVED IN APRIL OF THIS YEAR.
AND IN COORDINATION WITH OUR COUNTY CLERK'S OFFICE TO VERIFY THAT WE'RE BOTH WORKING TOGETHER TO ENSURE EVERYTHING IS CORRECT.
THEY HAVE THEIR REQUIREMENTS FOR THE TEXAS PROPERTY CODE.
THE PLATCANNOT BE RECORDED IF LIABILITY ON EITHER PROPERTY.
SO THE DEVELOPERS -- THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING THE COURT CONSIDER A VARIANCE WHICH STATES PERMIT WILL NOT BE ISSUED FOR AN ON SITE SEWAGE -- SINCE THE PROPERTY OWNER PLATED AND THAT PLATHAS BEEN APPROVED BY COURT ON APRIL 26TH WE FIND THAT
REQUEST TO BE ACCEPTABLE. >> THANK YOU.
PLEASE CALL THE ROLE. >> COMMISSIONER SHELL.
>> YES. >> COMMISSIONER SMITH.
>> YES. >> COMMISSIONER INGALSBE.
[K1. Discussion and possible action to authorize the Parks Department to purchase a new Top Hat 5X12 Utility trailer in the amount of $3,180.00 and amend the budget accordingly. SHELL/T. CRUMLEY]
DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO AUTHORIZE THE PARKS DEPARTMENT TO PURCHASE A NEW TOP HAT 5 BY 12 UTILITY TRAILER.
>> SO MOVED. >> SECONDISM I VALUE AND APPRECIATE THEY'RE DOING. TAMMY, TELL US QUICKLY SHORT
SENTENCES WHAT ARE THEY DOING? >> WE NEED A UTILITY TRAILER TO MOVE THE EQUIPMENT BACK AND FORTH TO THE DIFFERENT PARKS.
THANK YOU. >> PLEASE CALL THE ROLE.
>> COMMISSIONER JONES. >> YES.
>> COMMISSIONER SHELL. >> YES.
[K3. Discussion and possible action to execute an Order Agreement, Master Lease Agreement, and Equipment Removal/Buyout Authorization with Ricoh USA, Inc. for County Wide Copiers, total monthly amount $1,117.85. BECERRA]
>> K CREE DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO EXECUTE AN ORDER AGREEMENT, MASTER LEASE DISAGREEMENT AND EQUIPMENT REMOVAL BUY OUT AUTHORIZATION WITH RICOHUSA INC.
>> PLEASE CALL THE ROLE. >> COMMISSIONER INGALSBE.
>> YES. >> COMMISSIONER SMITH.
>> YES. >> COMMISSIONER SHELL.
[K4. Discussion and possible action to award a contract for RFP 2022-P08 HVAC -Maintenance & Repair Services, Jail to SI Mechanical, LLC and authorize staff and General Counsel to negotiate a contract. INGALSBE/CUTLER]
>> K4 DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO AWARD A CONTRACT FOR RFP2022-P08H VAC MAINTENANCE AND REPAIR SERVICES.
>> PLEASE CALL THE ROLE. >> COMMISSIONER JONES.
>> YES. >> COMMISSIONER SHELL.
>> YES. >> COMMISSIONER INGALSBE.
[K5. Discussion and possible action to accept 17.495 acres of donated property related to the Sentinel Peak Preserve Project; record donation value per the land appraisal report and amend the budget accordingly. SHELL]
>> K5. DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO ACCEPT 17.495 ACRES OF DONATED PROPERTY RELATED TO THE
SENTINEL PEAK PRESERVE PROJECT. >> SO MOVED.
>> SECOND. >> THIS IS ACCEPT THE DONATED LAND FOR THE RIGHT OF WAY FOR OUR PARK ACCESS ROAD.
>> SENTINEL PEAK KEEPS MOVING. >> COMMISSIONER SHELL.
>> YES. >> COMMISSIONER JONES.
[K6. Discussion and possible action to authorize the County Clerk to realign general ledger position funding within the General Fund and Records Management Fund. BECERRA/CARDENAS]
>> YES. >> COMMISSIONER INGALSBE.
>> YES. >> K6 DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO AUTHORIZE THE COUNTY CLERK TO REALIGN GENERAL LEDGER POSITION FUNDING WITHIN THE GENERAL FUND AND RECORDS
>> WE PRESENTED IN EXECUTIVE SESSION A FEW WEEKS AGO FOR APPROVAL. GIVEN ALL THE OTHER THINGS WE WERE TALKING ABOUT IT DIDN'T GET DONE.
BASICALLY IT'S AN ADMINISTRATIVE STEP TO MAKE MORE APPROPRIATE THE ALIGNMENT OF STAFF WITH THE FUNDS.
IT LOWERS SLIGHTLY WHAT WE TAKE FROM GENERAL FUND.
>> CAN I ASK VICKI, SHE MAY HAVE COMMENTS.
>> VICKI FROM THE BUDGET OFFICE. >> YES.
>> PLEASE. >> I DID LOOK AT THE PROPOSAL THAT ELAINE SENT OVER. AND THERE'S APPROXIMATELY $22,000 SAVINGS TO THE GENERAL FUND.
IT DOESN'T CHANGE OF THE CLASSIFICATION OF THE POSITIONS.
IT DOESN'T CHANGE SALARIES. IT'S MOVING FUNDING TO ALIGN
WITH THE FUNCTIONALITY. >> BASICALLY PUTS PEOPLE IN THE
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RECORDS DIVISION. >> FUNDING SOURCES.
>> I HAVE THE SPREAD SHEET IF YOU ARE INTERESTED IN SEEING THE MOVEMENT. I CAN PASS THAT OUT.
>> ANYTHING YOU WANT TO ADD. >> NO I WAS ENSURING THAT THE BUDGET OFFICE HAD A CHANCE TO IDENTIFY THE PLOT NUMBERS.
>> THANK YOU. >> I'LL PASS THE OTHERS OVER.
JUST BASICALLY MOVING PEOPLE A LITTLE BIT BETWEEN THE FUNDS.
THEY'RE MORE LOGICALLY ALIGNED. YEAH.
>> AND THE FRONT PAGE IS THE. >> JUDGE, DID YOU WANT A COPY OF
>> I WANTED TO MAKE SURE. >> I APPRECIATE IT.
SOUNDS LIKE AN ADMINISTRATIVE ADJUSTMENT.
COMMISSIONERS CALL THE ROLE. >> COMMISSIONER INGALSBE.
>> YES. >> COMMISSIONER SHELL.
>> YES. >> COMMISSIONER SMITH.
>> YES. VICKI, THANK YOU FOR BEING MAGNIFICENT. CAN'T SAY IT ENOUGH.
YOU ARE ALWAYS DOING AN AMAZING JOB.
JUST ONE MORE EXAMPLE. PLEASE OPEN.
>> WE'RE IN EXECUTIVE. >> DOWN TO N2.
[N2. Discussion related to the Hays County inmate population, to include current population counts and costs. BECERRA]
>> N2 DISCUSSION RELATED TO THE HAYS COUNTY INMATE POPULATION TO INCLUDE CURRENT POPULATION COUNTS AND COSTS.
>> THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE SENDS MY OFFICE THE INMATE REPORT THAT I REPORT ON. I TRY TO STOP ARE REPORTING ON IT. I GOT CALLED OUT.
WHERE IS THE REPORT? WHY DIDN'T YOU READ IT? I WILL KEEP READING IT. HAYS COUNTY CURRENT MAXIMUM JAIL CAPACITY IS 410 INMATES. RECOMMENDS HOLDING 10% OF THAT CAPACITY OPEN WHICH LOWERS CAPACITY TO 368.
THE JAIL'S AVERAGE WAS 693. AND PEEK WAS 696 ON JUNE 18TH.
THE ESTIMATED COST FOR OUTSOURCING INMATES IS $134120.
EXCEPTIONALLY EXPENSIVE. THE NUMBER OF OUTSOURCED MALES IS 225. AND FEMALES ARE 54.
THIS WEEK'S INMATES WERE HOUSED IN THE FOLLOWING COUNTIES.
ARRESTS BY AGENCIES, BUTAPD CONTRIBUTED 4.
DPS, 2. HAYS COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE 52.
CONSTABLE PRECINCT 1, 7. KYLE POLICE DEPARTMENT, 25.
SMPD39. TEXAS STATE UNIVERSITY, 1.
I THANKED THEM FOR ADDING PAPER READY INMATES.
THOSE INDIVIDUALS HAD DAY IN COURT.
FOUND GUILTY AND CONSIDERED STATE INMATES.
OF THOSE WE ARE HOLDING 51. THOSE 51 STATE INMATES, THE REASON I ASKED IT TO BE INCLUDED BECAUSE OUR LOCAL TAXPAYER DOLLARS ARE USED TO HOW'S THESE INMATES WHEN IT SHOULD BE A
STATES EXPENSE. >> I BROUGHT THAT UP AT THE CONFERENCE WE WERE AT. THERE WERE A COUPLE OF REPRESENTATIVES THAT WERE THERE AND DIDN'T GET MUCH OF A
RESPONSE OR ANSWER. >> I WOULD SAY I BROUGHT IT UP TO 2 REPRESENTATIVES THERE OR AT LEAST THE 2 I MET THERE.
AND LITERALLY ONE OF THEM SAID IN A JOKING FASHION.
GET IN LINE. YOU'RE NOT THE ONLY COUNTY.
AND BY FAR YOU'RE WANT THE LARGEST WHO HAS THESE INMATES.
WE WOULD LOVE TO TAKE THEM IF WE COULD.
AT THAT SAME CONFERENCE I REACHED OUT TO A HANDFUL OF PRIVATE ENTERPRISES THERE THAT HOW'S FOLKS HERE WITHIN THE STATE AND KNOWING THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT OUTSIDE THE STATE HOUSING AND THESE INMATES, I REACHED OUT TO THEM AND SET UP MEETINGS OVER THE NEXT 2 WEEKS WITH THEM TO SEE WHAT AVAILABILITY MYSELF AND THE SHERIFF WHAT AVAILABILITY THEY HAVE IN THE STATE AND WHAT THE COST FOR SOMETHING LIKE THAT WOULD BE. I PLEDGED TO YOU ALL THAT I WOULD DO THAT I GUESS 2 WEEKS AGO OR 4 WEEKS AGO.
>> COMMISSIONER, I ASK THAT YOU PLEASE -- OH, OH, PLEASE INCLUDE
[EXECUTIVE SESSIONS]
ME IN THOSE CONVERSATIONS. I GRATEFUL.PLEASE OPEN M1, 2, 3 AND 4. M1 EXECUTIVE SESSION PURSUANT TO
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SECTIONS 551.071 AND 551.072 OF THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE.CONSULTATION WITH COUNCIL AND DELIBERATION REGARDING THE PURCHASE, EXCHANGE, LEASE AND OR VALUE OF REAL PROPERTY ASSOCIATED WITH THE POSAC RECOMMENDED 2020 PARKS AND OPEN SPACE BOND PROJECTS. NUMBER 2.
EXECUTIVE SESSION PURSUANT TO SECTION 551.071 AND SECTION 551.076 OF THE TEXAS LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE REGARDING THE DEPLOYMENT OR SPECIFIC OCCASIONS FOR IMPLECKPLEMENTATION OF SECURITY PERSONNEL EAR DEVICES. M3.
EXECUTIVE SESSION PURSUANT TO SECTIONS 551.071 AND 551.074 OF THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE, CONSULTATION WITH COUNSEL AND DELIBERATION REGARDING EMPLOYMENT AND DUTIES OF ALL INDIVIDUAL POSITIONS EMPLOYED BY HAYS COUNTY GRADE 112 AND BELOW.
M4 EXECUTIVE SESSION PURSUANT TO SESSIONS 551.071 AND 551.074 OF THE TEXAS LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE. CONSULTATION WITH COUNSEL AND DELIBERATION REGARDING ALL INDIVIDUAL POSITIONS SERVING THE HAYS COUNTY MENTAL HEALTH COURTS.
IFT DO 2 FIRST. >> WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO IS GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.