[2. 7 Presentation by the Redistricting Advisory Commission regarding proposals for redistricting of Commissioners' Precincts within Hays County. BECERRA]

WILL PLEASE IT OPEN AGENDA ITEM NUMBER TWO.

>> NUMBER 2, PRESENTATION BY THE REDISTRICTING ADVISORY COMMISSION REGARDING PROPOSALS FOR REDISTRICTING OF COMMISSIONERS PRECINCTS WITHIN HAYES CAN.

>> OKAY. AND I HAVE A COUPLE OF FOLKS SIGNED UP TO SPEAK. OUR FIRST ONE IS DR. LINDA CALVERT. IF YOU WOULD PLEASE APPROACH THE PODIUM. NOT HERE? OKAY. IS THERE A WRITTEN DOCUMENT?

>> SHE'S HERE. >> OH, THERE YOU ARE! AND AFTER DR. CALVERT, WE WILL HAVE MR. LARRY CALVERT.

>> WE ARE ABOUT TO TALK ABOUT REDISTRICTING, RIGHT?

>> CORRECT. >> FIRST OF ALL, I WOULD LIKE TO EXPRESS MY APPRECIATION. I'M LINDA CALVERT, CHAIR OF THE REDISTRICTING COMMITTEE FOR THE LEAGUE OF WOMEN VOTERS.

I WOULD LIKE TO EXPRESS MY APPRECIATION FOR YOUR CHOICE TO CREATE A REDISTRICTING ADVISORY COMMISSION.

BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT YOUR DELIBERATIONS WILL FOCUS ON, I'M COMING IN MORE GENERALLY ON THE PROCESS.

AND SOME OF THE THINGS I WOULD LIKE TO SAY IS FIRST OF ALL, LEAGUE MEMBERS HAVE FOLLOWED THE MEETINGS CLOSELY AND HAVE ATTENDED ALL OF THE PUBLIC MEETINGS.

I WON'T LIE. THERE WERE TIMES WHERE THE PROCESS REALLY WORRIED US. TIMES WHEN WE LOOK AT THINGS AND WE WENT -- YIKES! AND AS YOU KNOW, THE LEAGUE DID EDUCATIONAL EVENTS, INCLUDING COMMUNITY OF INTEREST MAPPING AS EARLY AS APRIL THROUGH SEPTEMBER.WE HAVE SOME OF THE PEOPLE WHO WERE INVOLVED IN THAT MAPPING COMMUNITY LEADERS THAT SPOKE TO THEIR COMMUNITY EVENT:OF INTEREST.

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WE SENT YOU A LETTER EXPRESSING OUR CONCERNS AND OFFERING A DEMONSTRATIVE MAP. THAT MAP WAS NOT INTENDED AS A FINAL MAP, BUT A MAP INTENDED TO BROADEN THE CONVERSATION AND OFFER A DIFFERENT WAY OF THINKING ABOUT HOW TO DRAW UP THE PRECINCTS. AS THE (INDISCERNIBLE) CONTINUED TO DO THE WORK, WE SEE AN EVOLUTION OF BETTER MAPS AND MORE CONSIDERATIONS OF ISSUES THAT IMPACT THE CITIZENS OF HAYS COUNTY FOR STOP EXPECT THE MAPS WE SEE TODAY WILL BE SOME OF OURS THAT ARE PRESENTED IN THE LAST MEETING.

AND THERE WILL BE NO SURPRISES. I CANNOT GUESS HOW THE COURT WILL PROCEED TODAY, BUT I ASK AS YOU DELIBERATE ON THE INFORMATION PRESENTED TO YOU THAT YOU WILL REVIEW THE DEMOGRAPHICS FOR VRA COMPLIANCE, VOTING RIGHTS COMPLIANCE STOP ESPECIALLY AND PRECINCTS ONE AND TWO.

AND CAREFULLY CONSIDER THE WORK THAT HAS GONE INTO THESE BEFORE YOU CONSIDER MAKING ANY MAJOR CHANGES.

WE THINK (INDISCERNIBLE) HAS DONE A GOOD JOB.

THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, DOCTOR CALVERT.

NEXT UP, MR. CALVERT. >> MORNING, JUDGE.

COMMISSIONERS. I'M HERE SPEAKING FOR MYSELF, A MEMBER OF THE LEAGUE AND A MEMBER OF THE REDISTRICTING COMMITTEE. IT'S GREAT THAT YOU SET UP THE ADVISORY COMMISSION. THINK THAT'S BEEN A WONDERFUL ADDITION TO THIS WHOLE PROCESS. IN THE PROCESS THAT HAS BEEN USED HAS BEEN BENEFICIAL. AS YOU CAN SEE, THERE ARE SOME SIGNIFICANT CHANGES THAT THE GROUP HAS SUGGESTED.THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF WORK ON THE ADVISORY COMMISSION :COMMISSION'S PART. THEY PUT IN A LOT OF HOURS AND I HOPE THEY ARE APPRECIATED FOR THAT.

THE LEAGUE HAS PUT IN A LOT OF HOURS AND HAS PROVIDED A LOT OF PUBLIC INPUT. AND AS MOST OF YOU HAVE SEEN, THERE WAS PRETTY GOOD PARTICIPATION BY THE PUBLIC.

SO WHAT YOU ARE SEEING HERE IS THE PUBLIC SPEAKING TO YOU.

AND I HOPE YOU WILL RECOGNIZE THE WISHES OF THE PUBLIC.

REPRESENT. SO GOOD LUCK ON YOUR DELIBERATIONS AND I HOPE YOU COME UP WITH A GOOD SOLUTION.

THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, MR. CALVERT.

AND I AM GRATEFUL THAT WE DID, AS A BODY, CREATE THIS COMMISSON. I'M GRATEFUL THAT WE SEE, AS A BODY, THE COMMISSIONERS COURT THE IMPORTANCE OF COMMUNITY INVOLVEMENT AND ENGAGEMENT. I'M GLAD TO SEE SOME OF THOSE MEMBERS OF THAT BODY HERE TODAY.

OUR TWO CHAIRS -- I SEE THEM BOTH AND I THINK YOU BOTH FOR BEING HERE. SO I WILL, AT THIS TIME, ALLOW -- IF YOU GUYS ARE READY TO -- PRESENT YOUR INFORMATION.

HOWEVER YOU WOULD LIKE TO GO. OKAY.

IF YOU JUST INTRODUCE YOUR NAME.

THINK OF IS THIS WAY: THERE ARE THOSE IN THE VIEWING AUDIENCE THAT HAVE NEVER SET EYES ON YOU.

SO TELL US WHO YOU ARE. >> JUDGE, CAN WE ASK THE REST

OF THE MEMBERS TO STAND UP? >> THERE ARE A NUMBER OF THEM HERE. WOULD YOU GUYS LIKE TO STAND UP? APPLAUSE] I'VE BEEN A PART OF THESE WORKSHOPS.

AND I WILL TELL YOU THAT THE ENGAGEMENT, THE DEDICATION -- I MEAN, IT'S BEEN PALPABLE. I AM GENERALLY GRATEFUL FOR THE HARD WOK THAT HAS GONE INTO THIS AND THE SINCEREST EFFORTS TO DO THE BEST BY TEXAS A&M. THAT'S HOW I SEE IT.

I HAVE A PREFERENCE, BUT I WILL KEEP THAT TO MYSELF AT THIS TIME. BUT I AM JUST GENUINELY GRATEFUL FOR ALL WHO CONTRIBUTED.I GENUINELY AM.

OKAY, WHO ARE YOU, FINE SIR? >> GOOD MORNING JUDGE AND COMMISSIONERS. I'M (INDISCERNIBLE) ON THE DEMOCRATIC HAYS COUNTY PUBLIC PARTY CHAIR.

I'VE COME TO YOU TODAY TO OFFER YOU A MAP -- PROPOSED MAP FROM THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY AND REPRESENTATIVES THAT WERE ON THE RACK. SO BEFORE I BEGIN, I THINK IT'S IN ORDER, LIKE WE HAVE SAID JUST NOW, TO THINK PEOPLE THAT ARE INVOLVED IN THE PROCESS. SO I WANT TO THANK THE LEAGUE OF WOMEN VOTERS FIRST FOR THEIR IDEA OF THIS REDRESS SEARCHING ADVISORY COMMISSION FIRST. I ALSO WANT TO THANK JUDGE BECERRA FOR PUTTING FORTH A RECOMMENDATION TO THE COMMISSIONERS TO SET UP THIS REDISTRICTING ADVISORY COMMISSION. AND I WANT TO THANK THE COMMISSIONERS FOR UNANIMOUSLY AGREEING TO THIS PROCESS AS WELL. I ALSO WANT TO THANK THE

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MEMBERS WHO WORKED ON THIS EFFORT.

SHANNA FITZPATRICK, RUBEN GARZA, DR. A SHALLOW PEZ, STEVE MEYER AND REPUBLICAN CHAIR (NAME). ALSO WANT TO THANK THOSE WHO ATTENDED THE COMMUNITY MEETINGS AND THOSE WHO SUBMITTED PUBLIC COMMENT IN THE PROCESS.

THERE WAS A LOT OF EFFORT PUT INTO COME TOGETHER TO PROPOSE MAPS. OF US COUNTIES WITH A POPULATION OF 100,000 OR MORE, HAYS COUNTY WAS THE FASTEST GROWING FROM 2010 TO 2020. WITH A 53 PERCENT GROWTH ACCORDING TO THE U.S. CENSUS DATA.HIS INCREASE IN POPULATION WAS PRIMARILY ON THE IH 35 CORRIDOR.

AS REDISTRICTING HAPPENS EVERY TWO YEARS, THERE WAS CLEARLY A NEED TO BALANCE POPULATION GROWTH AMONG PRECINCTS ACROSS THE COUNTY. BALANCING THE POPULATION REQUIRE THAT THE REDISTRICTING ADVISOR IS AND CONSIDER MAPPING PRECINCTS BASED ON GROWTH. THE ANALYSIS OF POPULATION IN THE COUNTY CLEARLY SHOWED A NEED TO MOVE POPULATION FROM PRECINCT 2 TO PRECINCT 3. AS PRECINCT 2 WAS SIGNIFICANTLY OVERPOPULATED, WHILE PRECINCT 3 WAS UNDERPOPULATED.

AS BOB AS OUR LEGAL CONSULTANT SUGGESTED, PRECINCT 1 WAS NEARLY PERFECT. AND PRECINCT 4 NUMBERS WERE ALSO CLOSE TO BALANCE. THE LATEST US CUT US FIGURE SHOWS A DECREASE IN HIS POPULATION AS IDENTIFIES AS NON-HISPANIC WHITE. THOUGH THIS POPULATION REMAINS A SLIGHT MAJORITY, IT FELL FROM P58.6 PERCENT TO 52.5 PERCENT O RESIDENTS. THE POPULATION IDENTIFYING AS HISPANIC GREW BY ABOUT FIVE POINTS.

FROM 35.3 PERCENT IN 2010 240.1 PERCENT.

THOSE WHO IDENTIFY AS BLACK OR AFRICAN-AMERICAN INCREASE FROM 3.2 PERCENT TO 4.6 PERCENT. WHILE THE ASIAN POPULATION GREW FROM 1.1 PERCENT TO 1.7 PERCENT.

IN REVIEWING POPULATION ON THE IH 35 CORRIDOR, THE RACK WAS ADVISED TO PROTECT PRECINCT 1 AS A HISPANIC MAJORITY PRESENT.

IS THERE A PROTECTED CLASS UNDER THE VOTING RIGHTS ACT, THIS DEMOGRAPHIC IS PROTECTED OF DELUSION OF REPRESENTATION.

AS WE CONSIDER MAPPING, WE DEVELOP A STRATEGY OF TALKING TO COMMUNITY PARTNERS, EVALUATING THE PAST HISTORY OF REPRESENTATION IN PRECINCT 1, AND LOOKING AT THE SPANISH GROWTH ALONG THE CORRIDOR TO DETERMINE HOW TO PRODUCE A MAP THAT REPRESENTS CHANGES IN THESE DEMOGRAPHICS.

WE SEE THAT MOST OF THE GROWTH AND HASTE IN OUR HISPANIC COMMUNITY HAS HAPPENED ALONG THE IH 35 CORRIDOR.

FROM THESE EFFORTS, WE PROPOSE MAP M9 TO THE COMMISSIONERS.

HIS MAP HAS SEVERAL CHARACTERISTICS.IRST, TO MAJORITY MINORITY HISPANICS PRECINCTS -- PRECINCT 1 AND PRECINCT 2 REFLECTING THE CENSUS DATA AND POPULATION CHANGES ON THE IH 35 CORRIDOR. TWO -- BOUNDARIES THAT ARE BASED ON CLEAN, RATIONAL LINES SUH AS RIVERS, CREEKS AND MAJOR THOROUGHFARES. EXISTING COMMUNITIES OF INTEREST ARE KEPT TOGETHER TO THE GREATEST DEGREE POSSIBLE.

SUCH AS THE HISPANIC COMMUNITIES EAST OF IH 35, HIGH-GROWTH AREAS OF BUDA, DRIPPING SPRINGS AND TEXAS UNIVERSITY. AND (INAUDIBLE) DRAWN TO KEEP (INDISCERNIBLE). IN ADDITION, THE MAP REDUCES THE KIDAL AREA FROM THREE COMMISSIONERS TO TWO.

UNFORTUNATELY, DUE TO THE INCREDIBLE GROWTH IN KEIO AND BUDA, WE COULD NOT KEEP THESE TWO POPULATION CENTERS TOGETHER. BECAUSE ALL FOUR PRECINCTS MUST BE ROUGHLY EQUAL AND POPULATION, WE HAD TO LOOK FOR WAYS TO MAP THESE COMMUNITIES TO BALANCE THE POPULATIONS OF THE PRECINCTS. UNFORTUNATELY, BOTH BUDA AND KEIO HAVE GROWN TOO LARGE TO BE MAPPED WITH EACH OTHER.

WE KEPT PRECINCT 1 THE WAY IT'S CURRENTLY MAP STOMACH MAPPED.

FIRST, THE POPULATION IS NEARLY PERFECT.

SECOND, AS THIS PRECINCT HAS HAD HISPANIC LEADERSHIP FOR 40 YEARS, WE FEEL CONFIDENT THAT LEAVING I AS IS WILL PROVIDE FOR CONTINUING REPRESENTATION FOR HISPANIC LEADERSHIP.

PRECINCT (INDISCERNIBLE) BASED ON POPULATION FIGURES OF INCREASED ELECTION RESULTS OVER THE PAST TWO YEARS.

WE BELIEV THAT THE CENSUS DATA REFLECTS THE NEED FOR ANOTHER MAJORITY MINORITY PRECINCT AND PRECINCT 2. WE ALSO CHOSE TO PUT TEXAS STATE UNIVERSITY AND PRECINCT 3 RATHER THAN PRECINCT 1. IN THE WORDS OF RUBEN GARZA, AND RAC MEMBER, AS A STUDENT I HAD VERY LITTLE IN COMMON WITH THE EAST SIDE OF I 35.

IN OUR MAP WEST AND NORTH OF SAN MARCO'S, BOTH MAPPED AND

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PRECINCT 3 ARE BALANCING NATIONAL RESOURCE AND DEVELOPMENT. WHICH INCLUDE ISSUES RELATED TO WATER. WIMBERLY IS ALSO DEALING WITH THESE ISSUES. SO WE FELT IT WAS A BETTER FIT PLACE IN TEXAS UNIVERSITY AND PRECINCT 3. WE ALSO WANTED TO HONOR THE NEED OF OUR POPULATION CENTERS, SAN MARCO'S, BUDA, DRIPPING SPRINGS AND WIMBERLY TO HAVE NO MORE THAN TWO COMMISSIONERS. IN KEIO THIS REDUCES COUNTY COMMISSIONERS FROM 3 TO 2. WE BELIEVE THIS IS MORE EFFICIENT TO DEVELOP A RELATIONSHIP TO BRING FORTH INFRASTRUCTURE AND DEVELOPMENT NEEDS. THE OTHER MAP CONTINUES THE TREND OF THREE COMMISSIONERS AND KEIO.

PUTTING DRIPPING SPRINGS AND BUDA TOGETHER HAS RECEIVED SOME CURIOSITY.OF COURSE, WE SEE KYLE AND BUDA HAVE MORE IN COMMON AND TYPES OF DEVELOPMENT.

MORE HOME DEVELOPMENT AND THE GROWTH IN INFRASTRUCTURE INCLUDING COMMERCIAL BUSINESSES ARE SIMILAR.

HOWEVER, AS I SAID PREVIOUSLY, BECAUSE OF THE LARGE GROWTH IN BOTH OF THESE AREAS, WE COULDN'T MAP THEM TOGETHER.

WE IDENTIFY THE LARGE INCREASE IN HOME DEVELOPMENT, INFRASTRUCTURE AND BOSE STOMACH BUSINESS ON THE WEST SIDE OF KYLE AND THE EAST SIDE OF BUDA HAVING SIMILAR CHARACTERISTICS.

THUS WE MAP THOSE COMMUNITIES AND PRECINCT 2. THIS HOME DEVELOPMENT IS ALSO OCCURRING IN PRECINCT (INDISCERNIBLE).

WE BELIEVE THE MAP (INDISCERNIBLE).WHICH IS THE PRIMARY AREA OF GROWTH IN THE COUNTY.

IT ALSO PRIORITIZES HOW WE CAN BALANCE HISPANIC REPRESENTATION WITH THE CHANGES AND DEMOGRAPHICS WITH THE COUNTY.

WE ALSO BELIEVE THIS MAP PROVIDES A BALANCED AND COMMON SENSE APPROACH TO MAPPING THE COMMISSIONERS PRECINCTS.HANK

YOU FOR YOUR TIME. >> THANK YOU.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. REGARDING THIS MAP, COMMISSIONERS, ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS?

>> I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.

MORE SPECIFICALLY, SOME OF THE CONCERNS THAT WE HAVE HEAR, EVEN AS FAR BACK AS 2018 WHENEVER I RAN WAS THE FACT THAT -- THESE WERE COMMENTS. IN EVERY DEBATE I WAS IN AND SINCE THAT TIME I'VE HEARD FROM OUR STATE REPRESENTATIVE THAT THEY WANTED A MORE CONCISE -- THEY WANTED THE ENTIRE UNIVERSITY IN ONE PRECINCT. THAT WAS A PRIORITY FOR THEM.

ITH THE MAJORITY OF THAT STUDENT POPULATION WITHIN ONE PRECINCT. THAT IT IDENTIFIED ALONG WITH THE CITY SAN MARCUS MUCH MORE CLOSELY THAN THE WESTERN SIDE OF THE COUNTY. THAT IS ONE CONCERN THAT I HAVE. THE OTHER CONCERN IS SOMETHING THAT YOU ACTUALLY VIEW AS AN ATTRIBUTE.

I'VE SPOKEN TO A COUPLE OF THE CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS IN I CAN TELL YOU THAT THERE IS A FEELING OVER THERE, AT LEAST FROM THE CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT I HAVE SPOKEN TO, THAT THEY ACTUALLY HAVE MORE INFLUENCE AND IMPACT ON THE COURT HAVING THREE MEMBERS RATHER THAN TWO.

THERE ARE DIFFERENT PRIORITIES. COMMISSIONER SHELL, FOR EXAMPLE IS VERY INVOLVED IN CONSERVATION AS AM I. WE SHARE THAT ATTRIBUTE BECAUSE OF THE WESTERN SIDE OF THE COUNTY AND WHERE WE ARE AT. HAVING ADDITIONAL VOICES ON THIS PANEL FOR A COMMUNITY, I CAN TELL YOU FROM REPRESENTING A HIGH-GROWTH AREA LIKE DRIPPING SPRINGS, I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE SOMEONE ELSE ADVOCATING SPECIFICALLY FOR THE CITY OF DRIPPING SPRINGS ON THIS COUNSEL.

OR ON THIS BOARD. AND RIGHT NOW, THAT ISN'T NECESSARILY THE CASE. IT'S ME.

FOR THE CITY OF KEIO, CURRENTLY, THERE ARE THREE MEMBERS.FOR THE CITY OF BUDA, I'M SURE THE CITY OF BUDA WOULD LOVE TO HAVE TWO MEMBERS ON THIS COURT.

SO MAYBE THEY HAVE MORE OF A VOICE.

THE CITIZENS THERE WOULD FEEL LIKE THEY HAVE MORE OF A VOICE.

THOSE ARE TWO CONCRNS THAT I REALLY HAVE.

THE OTHER THING I WOULD SAY IS WHEN WE LOOK AT THOSE AREAS -- THOSE HIGH DEVELOPMENT AND HIGH GROWTH AREAS -- WE, BY MANDATE AND BY STATUTE, WE CAN'T BUILD ON -- OR WE CAN'T DESIGNATE OR DRAW LINES WHERE WE KNOW WE SPECIFICALLY KNOW DEVELOPMENT IS COMING. OR WHERE WE ANTICIPATE DEVELOPING COMING. THAT IS CONCERNING TO ME.

I AGREE THAT WE SHOULD TAKE A GOOD HARD LOOK AT THAT.

JUST AS AN EXAMPLE, JUST BARELY OUTSIDE OF THE CITY LIMITS OF DRIPPING SPRINGS IN THE SERVICE AREA OF THE DRIPPING SPRINGS WATER SUPPLY IN THE CITY OF DRIPPING SPRINGS, JUST BY REVIEWING THE NEED FOR WATER THERE AND THE INDIVIDUAL PLANTS THAT ARE APPROVED OR KNOWN TO BE APPROVED FOR CONSTRUCTION OF THE NEXT 10 YEARS? THAT'S 18,000 HOMES.

JUST IN THAT SMALL AREA.HAT DOES NOT CONTEMPLATE ANYTHING OUTSIDE OF THAT AREA. IF YOU LOOK AT THE GREATER DRIPPING SPRINGS AREA, YOU ARE PROBABLY LOOKING AT 60,000 HOMES.THAT ARE EITHER IN THE ET J FOR DRIPPING SPRINGS OR JUST OUTSIDE. SO I WOULD AGREE WITH YOU THAT

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WE NEED TO TAKE A HARD LOOK AT THAT.

I THINK THE BEST NUMBERS THAT WE HAVE PROBABLY AREN'T PUBLISHED. OUR UTILITIES AND SCHOOL DISTRICTS HAVE BETTER NUMBERS THAN WE EVER HAD ON THAT.

AND PROBABLY BETTER NUMBERS THAN THE SENSES HAD.

SIMPLY BECAUSE THEY ARE HAVING TO DO THOSE DEMOGRAPHIC ANALYSES. AT ONE POINT, ALL OF OUR SCHOOL DISTRICTS WERE DOING THOSE DEMOGRAPHIC ANALYSES EVERY 10 YEARS, EVERY FIVE YEARS. I KNOW THE CITY OF DRIPPING SPRINGS ARE NOW DOING THOSE ALMOST EVERY 18 TO 24 MONTHS BECAUSE THEY ARE HAVING TO BUILD ADDITIONAL SCHOOLS.

THEY HAVE SUCH A POPULATION INFLUX.

SO I'VE TAKEN A HARD LOOK AT SOME OF THOSE NUMBERS.

I THINK THAT THERE ARE SOME VERY GOOD THINGS ON THIS MAP.

THERE'S JUST SOME CONSIDERATIONS THAT I WOULD PROBABLY WANT TO LOOK AT MORE CLOSELY.

BUT I DOAPPRECIATE THE WORK YOU OF ALL DONE.

IT'S OBVIOUS FROM THE START OF OUR PROCESS -- AGAIN, FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO MAY NOT KNOW, THIS IS M9.

I WOULD ASSUME THIS IS MARK NINE? AND SO, THAT IS JUST TO TELL YOU THE WORK THAT MR. TREY HANN AND THE REST OF HIS MEMBERS HAVE GONE THROUGH.

THIS IS THE NINTH MAP THAT I ASSUME MR. TREY HANN AS SUBMITTED. THE NEXT ONE IS SM.

I ASSUME THAT STEVE MYERS BECAUSE HE'S ON THE ADVISORY COMMITTEE. I ASSUME THIS IS THE SECOND FULL MAP. I'M SURE THERE WERE DOZENS IN BETWEEN THAT NEVER MADE IT TO THIS POINT.

SO I DO APPRECIATE YOUR WORK. >> THANK YOU.

COMMISSIONER? >> THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF TALK ABOUT KEIO HAVING THREE COMMISSIONERS.

THAT THEY HAVE ALSO BEEN ABLE TO ELECT A COMMISSIONER FROM

KYLE FOR THAT PRECINCT. >> I WOULD JUST SAY ON KYLE, SINCE WE ARE ON THAT SUBJECT RIGHT NOW -- I HAVE SPOKEN TO A FEW COUNCILMEMBERS. THEY HAVE INDICATED TO ME THAT THEY WOULD PREFER ONLY TO REPRESENTING THEIR AREA.

SO I HAVE GOTTEN WORD FROM THEM REGARDING THAT.

AND JUST -- I KNOW WE ALL KNOW THIS IN THE ROOM, BUT THE SAN MARCUS CITY LIMIT AND THE ET J ALSO GO ON TO THE WEST SIDE OF I 35. IT'S NOT JUST THE EAST SIDE.

AND SO, I THINK -- YOU KNOW, AS THE ARGUMENT WITH TEXAS STATE MORE ALIGNS WITH THE CITY OF SAM MARCUS, WE DO HAVE PORTIONS OF THE SAN MARCO'S ON WEST I 35.

>> THAT'S A GREAT REMINDER. ABSOLUTELY CORRECT.

DR. TREY HANN, ANYTHING ELSE YOU WOULD LIKE TO CONTRIBUTE?

>> NO. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

I APPRECIATE IT. >> I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK. IT'S BEEN THANKLESS AND TIRELESS. AND HERDING CATS! I COULD SUMMARIZE THAT IN MY OPINION.

NEXT, I WOULD LIKE TO CALL UP MR. BOB PARKS TO PRESENT HIS MAP. THANK YOU, FINE SIR.

IF YOU WOULD PLEASE INTRODUCE YOURSELF?

>> GOOD MORNING. MY NAME IS BOB PARKS AND I AM A REPUBLICN PARTY COUNTY CHAIRMAN AND CO-CHAIR (INAUDIBLE). THE RAC COMMITTEE HAS BEEN VERY INTERESTING. IT'S BEEN AN EYE-OPENING EXPERIENCE FOR CITIZENS.THE RAC COMMITTEE DID THEIR WORK THROUGH TEXTS AND MEETINGS. IT'S BEEN VERY FUN, ACTUALLY, TO BE PART OF THIS COMMISSION. I KNOW THAT DURING THIS WHOLE PROCESS, ALL OF US HAVE BEEN JUST TOTALLY INUNDATED WITH NUMBERS. AND FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, I'M GOING TO INTRODUCE STEVE MEYER IN JUST A MOMENT WHO CREATED US INTO MAP. STEVE IS A VERY DISTINGUISHED STATISTICIAN. HE WROTE THE SOFTWARE FOR THE US CENSUS BUREAU. HE HAD GREAT CONVERSATION WITH BOB BASS, WHO WAS HERE (INDISCERNIBLE) AND WITH THE MAPPING DEPARTMENT. SO I GOT TO HEAR NUMBERS UPON NUMBERS UPON NUMBERS UPON NUMBERS AND PERCENTAGES UNTIL MY HEAD WAS EXPLODING WITH ALL POF THIS STUFF.

I WANT TO TELL YOU JUST A QUICK LITTLE STORY.

IN MY 6 AND A HALF YEARS OF COLLEGE, TOWARD THE END OF MY CAREER, I HAD A STATISTICS CLASS BY A PROFESSOR WHO IS THE MOST GRUMPY OLD MAN EVER TO TEACH IN A COLLEGE CLASSROOM! HE WAS JUST BRUTALLY DIFFICULT. AND WE HAD STATISTICS AND THAT WAS BEFORE ELECTRONIC CALCULATORS, WHERE WE HAD THE OLD ROTARY CALCULATORS. I CALL THEM (INDISCERNIBLE) MACHINES. YOU PUT ALL YOUR DATA 10 KEYS AT A TIME IN YOUR HEAD WOULD JUST EXPLODE.

BUT ANYWAY, ONE THING (INDISCERNIBLE) BROUGHT IN A GARBAGE SACK. HE REACHED IN AND PULLED OUT A

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TOMATO. A GREAT BIG TOMATO.

AND HE SAID I GREW THIS TOMATO IN MY GARDEN.

AND I LOOKED AT THAT TOMATO AND THOUGHT MAN, THIS GUY MAY BE A REAL HUMAN BEING! HE KNOWS SOMETHING OTHER THAN NUMBERS! HE ACTUALLY KNOWS WHAT A TOMATO IS. SO I THOUGHT ABOUT THAT EXPERIENCE A LOT WHEN WE LOOK AT THESE MAPS.

AND FOR THE PUBLIC WAS WATCHING AND DON'T REALLY REALIZE, WE HAD A CHALLENGE WHEN WE STARTED THIS PROCESS DUE TO THE POPULATION OF HAYES WHICH IS ABOUT 241,000.

AND WE HAD TO DIVIDE THAT NUMBER FOR FOUR COMMISSIONERS PRECINCTS TO COME UP WITH A ROUND NUMBER OF ABOUT 60,000 PEOPLE THAT NEEDED TO POPULATE EACH OF THE FOUR COMMISSIONERS PRECINCTS.HEN WE STARTED THE PROCESS, AS DOCTOR TREY HAD MENTIONED, PRECINCT 1, PRECINCT 4 WERE PRETTY CLOSE TO THAT NUMBER. BUT PRECINCT 2, UP IN THE CORNER, WAS UP BY ABOUT 13,000 PEOPLE.

PRECINCT 3 WAS DOWN BY A VERY SIMILAR NUMBER.

SO WE HAD TO MOVE A LOT OF POPULATION FROM ONE TO THE OTHER. THE BOUNDARIES DID NOT TOUCH EACH OTHER. SO THE ONLY WAY TO DO THAT WAS TO ROTATE POPULATION, EITHER INTO ONE AND INTO FOUR AND THEN BACK INTO THREE. SO IT WAS QUITE CHALLENGING.

WE TRIED TO MAINTAIN THE PEXISTING VOTING PRECINCTS.

AND OF COURSE, WE HAD TO ADHERE TO THE GUIDELINES OF THE VOTING ACT AND SOME OTHER GUIDELINES. IT BROUGHT UP SOME INTERESTING DISCUSSION ALONG THE WAY. AND I WILL TOUCH ON THAT.

PROBABLY TO MY WAY OF THINKING, AND I HAVE BROUGHT IT UP MANY TIMES DURING OUR DISCUSSIONS IS EXACTLY WHAT IS A COMMUNITY OF INTEREST WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE HISPANIC COMMUNITY OF INTEREST? WHAT IS THE DEFINITION OF HISPANIC AND TODAY'S WORLD? THROUGHOUT TEXAS, WE HAVE SEEN A VERY, VERY LARGE SHIFT IN THE HISPANIC POPULATION OVER WHAT IT MAY HAVE BEEN CONSIDERED 10 YEARS AGO, WHEN THE 2010 CENSUS WAS DONE.

WE HAVE AREAS IN OUR COUNTY THAT ARE ROOFTOPS OF THOUSANDS OF ROOFS. SOME OF OUR BIGGER SUBDIVISIONS.IF YOU LOOK DEEPLY INTO THAT DEMOGRAPHIC, YOU WILL FIND OUT THAT THERE ARE A LOT OF FOLKS THAT LIVE IN THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS WHO HAVE HISPANIC SURNAMES.

YOU HAVE, I THINK, THE NUMBER IS AROUND SEVEN OR EIGHT PERCENT OF THOSE FAMILIES ARE BLENDED FAMILIES.

WHICH MEANS EITHER THE HUSBAND OR THE WIFE MAY HAVE A HISPANIC SURNAME.ND THE OTHER PARTNER DOES NOT.

THEY HAVE CHILDREN THAT GO TO SCHOOLS AND EVEN THOUGH THEY MAY HAVE A HISPANIC SURNAME, THE CHILDREN WHO LIVE IN THE HOUSEHOLD DON'T SPEAK A WORD OF SPANISH.

AND MAYBE THE PARENTS DON'T, EITHER.

SO WE ARE SUPPOSED TO CONSIDER THAT DEMOGRAPHIC AS HISPANIC BY THE TRADITIONAL THOUGHT PROCESS THAT EXISTED BACK IN 2010 AND BACK FURTHER THAN THAT IN THE CENSUS DATA.HEN YOU GO INTO A NEIGHBORHOOD AND CALL IT A COMMUNITY OF INTEREST, IN THE TYPICAL, OLDER TRADITIONAL HISPANIC TERMS BUT YET THE AVERAGE PRICE OF THESE HOMES IS ABOVE $250,000.ND SOME ARE APPROACHING $350,000 OR MORE. IT KIND OF SKEWS THE DEFINITION OF WHAT IS A HISPANIC NEIGHBORHOOD.

SO I THINK THAT HAS TO BE CONSIDERED.

AND I THINK IN SOME RESPECTS WE DID CONSIDER THAT IN OUR MAPPING. ANOTHER THING I WANTED TO POINT OUT THAT WAS A BIG CONSIDERATION WAS THE COLLEGE.

THE UNIVERSITY HERE IN SAN MARCUS.

I'VE SAT IN THIS VERY COURT FOR MORE THAN ONCE AND HEARD THE JUDGE EXPOUND ON THE THOUGHT THAT THAT IS A HISPANIC COLLEGE. WE'VE ALL HEARD IT.

AND I TOOK THAT VERY SERIOUSLY. I SPENT A GREAT DEAL OF TIME AT THAT COLLEGE AND IN THE PRECINCTS AROUND THAT COLLEGE.

AND THERE IS A GREAT DEAL OF INFLUENCE FROM THE COLLEGE COMMUNITY IN THE HISPANIC COMMUNITY THAT EXISTS THROUGHOUT PRECINCT 1. SO THEREFORE, WE HAD TO GO FURTHER INTO OUR DEFINITION. AND ACTUALLY, WE HAD TO LOOK OUTSIDE PRECINCT 1 AND THE HISPANIC COMMUNITY.

WE HAD TO SAY WHAT IS THE DEMOGRAPHIC OF THE ADJACENT PRECINCT COMMISSIONERS? WE ACTUALLY HAD TO GO DIG OUT SOME DEFINITIONS FROM THE VOTING ACT.

AND ALSO FROM THE CENSUS BUREAU.

AND WE FOUND AND LEARNED THAT PRECINCT 3 AND ON UP INTO PRECINCT 4 IS ACTUALLY A COMMUNITY OF INTEREST.

BECAUSE IT'S CONSIDERED A RURAL COMMUNITY OF INTEREST.

AND THAT'S A VERY IMPORTANT POINT THAT WE DISCOVERED.

BECAUSE JUST LIKE WE HAVE HERE TODAY IN THIS COURT, WHERE WE HAVE A WELL-DESERVED PROCLAMATION ESTABLISHING THE HONORING OF A PERSON WHO WAS INVOLVED IN A TIGHTKNIT

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COMMUNITY OF SAN MARTENS. WE DON'T HAVE THOSE KINDS OF POPULATIONS OR THOSE KINDS OF PROCLAMATIONS PRESENT UP THROUGH WIMBERLY AND UP INTO SAN MARCO'S.

BECAUSE IT'S A TOTALLY DIFFERENT DEMOGRAPHIC.

IT'S A COMMUNITY OF INTEREST THAT IS CALLED A RURAL COMMUNITY OF INTEREST. SO ANYTHING WE MIGHT DO IN THE SHIFT OF THE POPULATION, WE HAVE TO MAINTAIN THAT THOUGHT.

FOR EXAMPLE, IF WE PUT ANY PORTION OF THE COLLEGE INTO PRECINCT 3, UNDER ANY DEFINITION, THAT'S NOT RIGHT.

BECAUSE WE ARE MOVING A HISPANIC CITY ORIENTED POPULATION INTO A COMMUNITY OF INTEREST THAT IS PRIMARILY A RURAL POPULATION. AND IF WE THINK ABOUT IT EVEN DEEPER THAN THAT. IF YOU HAVE AN AVERAGE COLLEGE POPULATION IN SAN MARCUS RIGHT NOW AROUND 35 TO 40,000.

AND YOU LOOK AT THE GROWTH EXPECTED.

AND THEN, YOU LOOK AT THE WESTERN EDGE PRECINCTS IN SAN MARCUS THAT DR. TREY HANDS MAP MOVES INTO PRECINCT 3. AS WITNESSED BY SOME OF THE RECENT DEVELOPMENTS AROUND THE COLLEGE IN SAN MARCO'S LIKE THE LINDEN PROJECT, IF YOU PUT A COUPLE MORE OF THOSE OUT IN THE OUTLYING PRECINCTS OVER THE NEXT 10 YEARS, AND ALL OF A SUDDEN STACK AN ADDITIONAL FOUR OR FIVE OR 6000 COLLEGE STUDENTS THAT WOULD NORMALLY VOTE IN LINES OF THE HISPANIC POPULATIONS OF PRECINCT 1 -- TO SKEW THAT VOTE IN PRECINCT 1 AND THREE CT 3 THAT IS AN EROSION FOR PRECINCT 3. AND WE CANNOT STAND THAT.

WE SHOULDN'T STAND THAT. SO I WOULD SUGGEST THAT THE MAP THAT IS SM TO BRINGS THAT COMMUNITY OF INTEREST OF HISPANIC COMMUNITY OF INTEREST INTO PRECINCT 1 STOP AND IT DOESN'T CAUSE A CONFLICT BY LEAVING ALL THOSE PRECINCTS IN AND AROUND THE COLLEGE IN PRECINCT 1. AND IT DOESN'T ERODE THE ROLE PRECINCTS -- PRECINCT 3 AND UP INTO PRCINCT 4. IT LEAVES THAT INTACT AS A COMMUNITY OF INTEREST AS RURAL COMMUNITY OF INTEREST. THOSE ARE CONSIDERATIONS WE HAVE ON THOSE MAPS. AND I DID WANT TO MENTION -- I WAS REALLY STRUCK IN THE FIRST PRESENTATION THAT BOB BASS GAVE HERE FROM THIS PODIUM. WHERE HE COMMENTED THAT UNDER THE DEFINITIONS THAT A COMMUNITY OF INTEREST WOULD BE A COMMUNITY OF INTEREST THAT WOULD HAVE ABOUT 60 PERCENT VOTING POPULATION IN ONE DIRECTION.

IN SAN MARCUS WOULD BE CONSIDERED HISPANIC VOTING ABOUT 60 PERCENT.SO I WENT BACK AND LOOKED INTO THOSE NUMBERS. AND, YOU KNOW, WE ONLY HAD THREE VOTING PRECINCTS WHEN WE STARTED THIS PROCESS.

WE ONLY HAD THREE VOTING PRECINCTS IN THE COUNTY THAT REACHED THE 60 PERCENT LEVEL. WE ONLY HAD, I THINK, ABOUT FIVE PRECINCTS IN TOTAL THAT REACHED THE 55 PERCENT LEVEL.

SO IF YOU ARE GOING TO BALANCE A DEMOGRAPHIC OR AN AREA OF THE COUNTY, AND TRY TO REACH THAT DEFINITION THAT BOB BROUGHT 60 PERCENT, THAT'S PRETTY HARD TO DO.

TO TAKE ALL THESE PRECINCTS THAT ARE NOWHERE NEAR 60 PERCENT, PUT THEM TOGETHER AND CALL IT 60 PERCENT.

IT DOESN'T WORK. IT DOESN'T WORK AT ALL.

SO I THINK SOME OF THE ARGUMENTS THAT WE HAVE HEARD EARLIER HAVE BEEN SOMEWHAT DISPELLED BY LOOKING TRULY AT WHAT THIS POPULATION REALLY LOOKS LIKE.

LOOKING TRULY AT WHAT THE GROWTH PATTERN OF THE COUNTY ARE. SINCE WE ARE LOOKING AT A 10 YEAR PLAN UNTIL THE NEXT CENSUS.

SOME OF THE EARLIER MAPS THAT I SAW PRODUCED HERE WITHOUT CONSIDERATION OF PRECINCT LINE, VOTING PRECINCT LINES, JUST DIDN'T MAKE SENSE. THEY CUT COMMISSIONERS OUT OF THEIR PRECINCTS AND PUT THEM IN DIFFERENT PRECINCTS JUST BY DOING THE CENSUS BLOCK -- REVIEW.

SO WE HAD TO BRING THAT BACK INTO CHECK.

BUT I URGE THE COMMISSIONERS, AS YOU DO THIS DELIBERATION, TO CERTAINLY LOOK AT THE NUMBERS. LOOK AT THE PERCENTAGES.

BUT DON'T GET TOO BOGGED DOWN IN JUST PURE PERCENTAGES.

LOOK AT THE NATURE OF THIS COUNTY AND THE NATURE OF THE PEOPLE IN THIS COUNTY. IN THE NATURE OF THE PEOPLE THAT ARE MOVING TO THIS COUNTY. AND LET'S BE REALISTIC ABOUT THIS POPULATION IN THIS COUNTY. SO THAT AS WE PUT OUR PRECINCTS TOGETHER, WE PUT THEM TOGETHER IN A WAY THAT TRULY DOES NOT DISCRIMINATE AGAINST ONE GROUP OVER ANOTHER.

WITH THAT, I WOULD LIKE TO ASK IF THE COMMISSIONERS COURT

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AGREES OR IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS, I WOULD TAKE THEM.

BUT I WOULD LIKE TO BRING STEVE MYRON.

>> THANK YOU FOR THAT PAUSE. BECAUSE MY HOPE IS TO CREATE THIS MOMENT THAT YOU HELPED SUPPORT.

YOU HAVE COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS TO THIS MOMENT.

WE CAN START AT THIS END. >> I GOT TO GO FIRST LAST TIME.

>> THAT'S RIGHT. GO AHEAD AGAIN.

>> I DO HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU FOR MAKING THE POINT OF THE COMMUNITY INTEREST ON THE WEST SIDE. I KNOW WE'VE HEARD FROM FOLKS ON THE WEST SIDE, THE DIFFERENT PRIORITIES THAT THEY MAY HAVE COMPARED TO THOSE ON THE EAST SIDE.

OR FOR THAT MATTER, THOSE ON THE NORTHERN SIDE OF THE COUNTY COMPARED TO THOSE TO THE FAR SOUTHWESTERN OR SOUTHERN PORTION OF THE COUNTY. SOME OF THE THINGS THAT I BROUGHT UP A MOMENT AGO -- THEY STILL RING TRUE WITH THE MAP THAT YOU HAVE HERE. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I DO LIKE ABOUT THIS IS THAT YOU END UP WITH A PRECINCT TO MAP.

IT'S VERY CONDENSED. AND I WILL LEAVE IT FOR MY COLLEAGUE FROM PRECINCT 2 TO HEAR HIS THOUGHTS.

BUT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I DO LIKE A BOAT MAPS AS WELL IS THAT THERE ARE VERY SPECIFIC COMMUNITIES.

WHENEVER I SAY COMMUNITIES, I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT COMMUNITIES OF INTEREST.I'M TALKING ABOUT COMMUNITIES WITHIN OUR COMMUNITIES. BY THAT, FOR EXAMPLE, RIMROCK AND DRIPPING SPRINGS, TEXAS. WAS IN HERE 10 YEARS AGO.

SOME OF MY COLLEAGUES MIGHT BE ABLE TO TELL YOU HOW RIMROCK GOT SPLIT. BUT IT'S A NEIGHBORHOOD IN MY COMMUNITY THAT WAS SPLIT DOWN THE MIDDLE.

THERE'S BEEN A REALLY GOOD JOB ON BEHALF OF BOTH MAPS TO TRY TO CONSOLIDATE THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS.

WHERE YOU HAVE ONE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT ISN'T SPLIT AMONGST THREE COMMISSIONERS. WHAT WE HAVEN'T TALKED ABOUT IN EITHER ONE OF THE PRESENTERS TODAY -- AND ONE THING I WOULD THINK WOULD BE REMISS IF WE DIDN'T MENTION THAT WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK AT BOTH JP PRECINCTS -- JUSTICE OF PEACE PRECINCTS AS WELL AS CONSTABLE PRECINCTS.

AND THE ONLY DIRECTION THAT I HAVE GIVEN OR ASKED FOR, IN COURT, AND WE DID THIS EARLY ON WAS TO DO THE SAME THING WHEN YOU LOOK AT THOSE PRECINCTS. I THINK ALL OF OUR CONSTABLES AND GPS ARE HAPPY WITH THE AREAS THAT THEY SERVE.

BUT WE DO HAVE SOME OF THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS THAT ARE SPLIT.

AND IT MAKES IT VERY DIFFICULT, TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHO THEY CALL. DO THEY CALL CONSTABLE PRECINCT 1? IT MAKES IT VERY DIFFICULT FOR THEM. SIMILARLY, ON THE GPS.

FOR EXAMPLE, AND I WILL USE ONE -- I KNOW MR. STRANGE, WHO SERVED ON THE RAC IS THE DIRECTOR OF WIMBERLY MS .

ONE OF THE MOST DANGEROUS SPOTS IN MY PRECINCT IS THE DOUBLECROSSING ON ONION CREEK. DEPENDING ON WHERE THERE IS A WRECK AT THAT DOUBLECROSSING, THERE ARE MULTIPLE GPS THAT WOULD BE CALLED OUT. THERE ARE MULTIPLE CONSTABLE PRECINCTS THAT WOULD BE CALLED OUT.

AND FOR EMERGENCY RESPONSE AND JUDICIAL MEANS ON THOSE, I THINK YOU ALL DID A REALLY GOOD JOB FOR TRYING TO ADDRESS THOSE. BUT THAT IS SOMETHING NEITHER ONE OF YOU ADDRESSED. I DO WANT TO ENSURE THAT AS WE MOVE FORWARD LOOKING, WE ARE LOOKING AT COMMISSIONERS MAPS TODAY. THOSE ARE WITH THESE BIG PRESENTATIONS ARE. BUT I DO HAVE A CONCERN THAT AS WE MOVE FORWARD, WE DO NEED TO LOOK AT THOSE INDIVIDUAL NEIGHBORHOODS. TO ENSURE THAT A NEIGHBORHOOD KNOWS WHO REPRESENTS THEM. THERE HAVE BEEN NEIGHBORHOODS, ESPECIALLY WITH THE SPLITTING OF PRECINCTS WHERE IT DOES BECOME VERY CONFUSING. SO I WOULD JUST ASK THAT BEFORE WE MAKE ANY FINAL DECISIONS, WE REALLY TAKE A LOOK AT THOSE

INDIVIDUAL NEIGHBORHOODS. >> COMMISSIONER SHELL? THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR YOU TO TELL US HOW YOU FEEL!

>> I'LL TAKE A LONG TIME! [LAUGHTER] JUST A COUPLE OF COMMENTS.

A LOT OF THE DISCUSSION THAT HAS 30 BEEN HAD.

INVOLVING PRECINCT 1, PRECINCT 2 BALANCE AND HOW TO BALANCE OUT. I'M ASSUMING THAT THESE ARE ALL ONLY ALONG EXISTING VOTING PRECINCT BOXES? SO THERE IS REALLY NOT A HUGE DIFFERENCE -- MAPS -- THERE ARE PROBABLY FOUR DIFFERENT VOTING BOXES.

THERE ARE ABOUT FOUR OR FIVE DIFFERENCES REALLY.

IT'S NOT SO MUCH A DRASTIC CHANGE.

THAT'S WERE PRECINCT 1 AND PRECINCT 2 COMES TOGETHER.

IT'S INTERESTING FROM TRYING TO LOOK AT THE NUMBERS.

AND THEN, THE DISCUSSION OF THE UNIVERSITY.

YOU KNOW, THE UNIVERSITY STUDENTS LIVE ACROSS THIS REGION. OBVIOUSLY, THE MAJORITY LIVE IN HAYS COUNTY. THERE IS NO WAY THAT IS EVER GOING TO BE A MAP THAT PUTS THE OVERWHELMING MAJORITY OF COLLEGE STUDENTS AND ONE PRECINCT OR ANOTHER.

WHICHEVER ONE THAT SHOULD BE OR SHOULDN'T BE.

WHICH I THINK THERE CAN BE ARGUMENTS MADE ON BOTH SIDES.

STUDENTS WHO GO TO TEXAS STATE UNIVERSITY LIVE ALL OVER.

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ESPECIALLY THE COURT OR AREA. SO I DON'T THINK YOU COULD EVER DRAW A MAP. YOU SAID I NOW HAVE AN OVERWHELMING MAJORITY OF THE UNIVERSITY ONE PRECINCT OR ANOTHER. THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THESE TWO MAPS, I THINK, IS JUST ONE VOTING BOX DIFFERENT.

WE TALKED ABOUT THE GEOGRAPHY OF THE CAMPUS. DON'T SEE THAT AS IMPORTANT AS WERE STUDENTS LIVE.

TRYING TO MAINTAIN A E UNIVERSITY AS A COMMUNITY OF INTEREST. BECAUSE WE ALL KNOW THE MAJORITY OF STUDENTS DON'T LIVE WITHIN THE CAMPUS.

AND THEN, THAT RURAL COUNTY BALANCE, WHICH I WOULD AGREE.

OBVIOUSLY PRECINCTS THREE AND FOUR HAVE BEEN MORE RURAL COUNTIES. AND HOW TO MAINTAIN THAT, I THINK BOTH MAPS DO A DECENT JOB OF TRYING TO MAINTAIN THAT AS WELL. AND THAT LEADS ME TO MY FOCUS AND SOME QUESTIONS THAT I WOULD HAVE.

AND MAY BE, MR. MEYER COULD ADDRESS THIS AS WELL.

WHEN YOU ARE LOOKING AT THE PRECINCT 1, PRECINCT 2 -- I THINK ALL MAPS PRODUCED TO MAJORITY-MINORITY PRECINCTS STOP AND PRECINCTS ONE AND TWO. AND IF WE TAKE IT TO A HISPANIC VOTING AGE POPULATION, I BELIEVE WE HAVE ONE OF THE PRECINCTS WOULD HAVE A HISPANIC VOTING AGE MAJORITY.

ONE MAY BE CLOSE. IS THERE A WAY TO GET THAT AMONGST BOTH OF THOSE PRECINCTS? IN OTHER WORDS, BOTH -- THE MAJORITY-MINORITY.

BUT IS THERE A WAY FOR THEM TO BE BOTH MAJORITY HISPANIC VOTING AGE? OBVIOUSLY, I DON'T THINK IT CAN BE DONE BY THE EXISTING VOTING BOX.

THE LINES. SO THE QUESTION WOULD BE, CAN THAT BE FINE-TUNED WITHIN THE EXISTING VOTING BOXES? TO TRY TO CREATE THAT BALANCE? BECAUSE YOU CAN SEE -- I CAN'T FOCUS ON THE ACTUAL STATISTICS. MAYBE MR. MEYER CAN EXPLAIN THEM TO ME ON THIS MAP SPECIFICALLY.

BUT THAT IS REALLY THE BIGGEST DIFFERENCE.

I'M SURE THOSE ARE VERY POPULATED VOTING BOXES RIGHT THERE. SO TO CHANGE THAT LINE AND TAKING A LARGE AMOUNT OF BOATERS AND SHIFTING THEM FROM ONE TO ANOTHER BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO USE THE EXISTING LINE? IF YOU SPLIT THAT VOTING BOX INTO TWO VOTING BOXES, COULD YOU BETTER ACCOMPLISH THE GOALS FOR BOTH PRECINCT 1 AND PRECINCT 2? WHICH WE ALL KNOW IS A FAST GROWING AREA AND GROWING MORE AS FAR AS THE HISPANIC POPULATION. AND PROBABLY THE REST OF THE COUNTY WELL LL. IN PLANNING FOR THAT GROWTH TO GET THOSE TO PRECINCTS AND PBALANCE BETTER?

>> WE WILL WAIT FOR A RESPONSE FROM MR. MEYER.

AND COMMISSIONER JONES? >> THANK YOU.

TO BE HONEST, I HATE BOTH MAPS! >> YOU SAID WHAT?

>> I SAID I HATE BOTH MAPS! BUT IF YOU TELL ME TO DRAW THE MAP, I WOULD CHOOSE TO. TO LOSE 13,000 PEOPLE ON MY PRECINCT IS REALLY HARD.AS MOST OF YOU KNOW, I HAVE DEEP ROOTS IN BOTH BUDA AND KYLE. I ALWAYS THOUGHT OF REPRESENTING THOSE TWO AREAS. IF YOU GO BACK TO MY TERMS IN THE SCHOOL BOARD, I'VE REPRESENTED FOR NEARLY 20 YEARS. I DO UNDERSTAND IT THOUGH.

BUT THAT'S WHERE I'M AT. >> OKAY.

COMMISSIONER INGALSBE? >> JUDGE, SOMETHING I DIDN'T GET TO O THAT I WANT TO BUT OTHERS WERE ABLE TO DO.

I DO WANT TO THANK THE RAC FOR ALL THE WORK THEY HAVE DONE.

I REALLY APPRECIATE THE MANY HOURS YOU PUT INTO THIS.

THE LEAGUE OF WOMEN VOTERS WAS ALSO MENTIONED.

I KNOW THEY STEPPED UP IN A BIG WAY AND HAVE BEEN INVOLVED.

BUT ESPECIALLY OUR PUBLIC. THAT WERE ABLE TO PARTICIPATE.

I WANT TO THANK THEM. I KNOW THEIR INPUT HAS BEEN EXTREMELY IMPORTANT. I KNOW THAT SOME HAVE WONDERED -- YOU KNOW, WHAT WILL THEIR COMMENTS BE TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION? AND I THINK THEY HAVE.

AND I THINK THEY SAY THAT BECAUSE WE HAVE THE ULTIMATE DECISION, YOU KNOW, WHEN IT COMES TO APPROVING EITHER ONE OF THESE MAPS OR DIFFERENT MAP. SO I REALLY WANTED TO TAKE THE TIME TO THANK ALL OF THOSE THAT WORKED VERY HARD ON THIS.

YOU KNOW, BOTH MAPS THAT WERE CREATED THAT WE ARE SEEING TODAY DO HAVE TWO MINORITY PRECINCTS.

I THINK IT'S INDICATIVE OF WHAT WE HAVE BEEN EXPERIENCING AND PROBABLY WILL CONTINUE TO SEE, YOU KNOW, AS WE MOVE FORWARD.

AND SO, I REALLY DO APPRECIATE THAT.

I STILL WOULD HAVE LIKED TO SEE THE MAPS MORE ALIGNED AS IT RELATES TO THE UNIVERSITY. I THINK THAT IS REALLY THE BIG

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ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM IS THE UNIVERSITY.

I'M NOT OPPOSED TO HAVING A PORTION OF THE UNIVERSITY AND PRECINCT 1. I'M CERTAINLY OPEN TO THAT.

ONE OF THE MAPS, OF COURSE, HAS THE ENTIRE UNIVERSITY AND SURROUNDING AREA AND PRECINCT 1 AND THE OTHER HAS NONE.

AND SO, I'M NOT SURE WE CAN GET THERE.

AND THESE MAY BE THE TWO FINAL MAPS THAT WE TAKE A LOOK AT OR DECIDE ON. BUT THERE IS STILL ANY OPPORTUNITY TO GO BACK AND TAKE A SECOND LOOK, I WOULD REALLY APPRECIATE ANY KIND OF ADJUSTMENTS THAT WE CAN MAKE.

AND I GUESS THE SM TO MAP -- I CAN'T TELL AND IT'S BEEN A LITTLE (INDISCERNIBLE) SINCE I LOOKED AT IT UP CLOSE.

BUT CAN YOU TELL ME WHERE THE BOUNDARY IS?

BETWEEN PRECINCTS ONE AND TWO? >> (INDISCERNIBLE) ON THE

EASTERN SIDE OF THAT MAP. >> IS AT HYDE ROAD?

I JUST CAN'T TELL --? >> IS THAT WINDY HILL?

>> DO WE HAVE TO ZOOM IN MORE? >> ZOOM AND MORE.

COMMISSIONER? >> IT IS.

I APPRECIATE IT.I CAN SEE IT NOW.

>> COMMISSIONER INGALSBE, RIGHT NOW THE UNIVERSITY IS REPRESENTED ABOUT 45 PERCENT IN COMMISSIONER SHELL'S PRECINCT.

AND YOU AND I PLIT THE REMAINDER OF IT.

I THINK I HAVE 30 PERCENT OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

WERE 25 PERCENT. AND YOU HAVE THE REST.

IS THAT CORRECT? SO IT WILL BE TRICKY TO PINPOINT AN EXACT HEADCOUNT.

BUT GENERALLY SPEAKING, I THINK THAT'S ABOUT RIGHT.

>> AND REALLY, JUDGE, AT THIS POINT, I DON'T HAVE MANY MORE QUESTIONS. THANK YOU ALL.

>> OKAY.>> AND JUDGE, I WOULD TO CLARIFY MY STATEMENT.THE REASON I HATE BOTH MAPS IS -- I DON'T LIKE LOSING 13,000 PEOPLE.

[LAUGHTER] SO I DON'T WANT PEOPLE TAKING

IT THE WRONG WAY. >> I DO WANT TO SAY, MR. PARKS, THAT YOU AND I HAVE BEEN INTERACTIG MORE THAN EVER.

AND I AM GRATEFUL TO HAVE JUST A SMALL WINDOW INTO WHO YOU ARE AND YOUR BACKGROUND. AND I'M GRATEFUL FOR EVERY BIT THAT I GOT. BUT IN ONE OF OUR CONVERSATIONS DURING WORKSHOP, YOU SAID HISPANIC COLLEGE.

AND I JUST WANTED TO, FIRST, SEE THAT IT IS A LITTLE BIT OF WORDSMITHING THAT I WOULD LIKE TO CLARIFY.

IT IS A HISPANIC SERVING INSTITUTION, WHICH I COULD, AS WE SHIFT FOLKS, I COULD ASK DR. TRAY HAND TO STEP UP AND EXPAND ON THAT. THE FEDERAL AND STATE DESIGNATION THAT IS DESIGNED TO CAPTURE TAX DOLLARS IN THE EFFORTS OF -- BUT IT'S NOT LIKE A MEXICAN SCHOOL.

YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? IT'S A LITTLE DIFFERENT THE WAY IT IS BEING DEPICTED IN THE GOALS, DESCRIPTIONS AND DEFINITIONS. SO I WOULD LIKE, IN A MOMENT, IF YOU GUYS HAVE A CHANCE TO ARTICULATE WHAT THAT MEANS.

AND ON THE REDISTRICTING PART, YOU SAID PRECINCT 3 IS RURAL.

I UNDERSTAND BECAUSE I WALKED INTO THIS WHOLE CONVERSATION HEARING WAY AHEAD OF TIME. KNOWING THAT WHEN WE GOT ELECTED, THAT FALL WAS COMING OUR WAY AND WE WOULD BE SITTING RIGHT HERE WHENEVER REDISTRICTING CAME.

AND I WILL TELL YOU THAT ONE OF THE CONVERSATIONS THAT WERE SHARED WITH ME WAS THAT WIMBERLY AND DRIPPING SPRINGS HAVE A LOT IN COMMON. AND I SAID ABSOLUTELY.

AS I SIT HERE BEFORE YOU IS ONLY COUNTYWIDE REPRESENTATIVE, I LOVE AND EMBRACE EVERY BIT OF THIS COMMUNITY.

AND I SAY WE HAVE 300,000 PEOPLE EVEN THOUGH THE CENSUS SAID 241. I KNOW WE HAVE MORE.

THERE ARE WAY MORE ARTICULATED AND CONCISE ACCOUNTS OUT THERE.

THAT'S WHY I LIKE TO CONTINUE TO SAY WE HAVE 350,000 PEOPLE HERE WHETHER WE CUT THEM OR NOT.

SO IF IT'S ALL THEWAY TO HENLEY OR YOU LEND -- I AM JUST GRATEFUL AND HONORED . I'VE BEEN HERE FOR DECADES.

I RAISE MY FAMILY HERE. I'M A BUSINESS OWNER.

MY KIDS HAVE BEEN THROUGH K THROUGH TEXAS STATE GRAD.

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I'M A BOBCAT DAD. AND THAT'S AN ADVANTAGE FOR ME.

I SEE ALL THE DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVES.

AND I LOVE HORSEBACK RIDING. I LOVE ALL THE DIFFERENT THINGS THAT THAT ENCAPSULATES -- THE ROLE DESCRIPTION.UT I HAVE BEEN A RESIDENT OF PRECINCT 3 FOR DECADES.

AND STILL TO THIS DAY. WHEN I GO TO VOTE -- BY PRECINCT 3 COMMISSIONER IS COMMISSIONER SHELL.

I RAISE MY FAMILY IN WILLOW CREEK.

WHERE AM I GOING WITH THIS? AND I DON'T MEAN IT -- IT'S NEVER MY INTENT, I PROMISE YOU. I BELIEVE YOU UNDERSTAND AND AGREE THAT MY HEART IS NOT TO PUT THINGS INTO A NEGATIVE LIGHT. JUST TO SHARE THE CONVERSATION.

SOMEONE IN TROUBLE? >> (LAUGHING), NO WE ARE GOOD.

HE IS JUST TURNING HIS PHONE OFF.

>> SO AS THE INDIVIDUAL WHO GETS THE PRIVILEGE OF WEARING SEVERAL HATS IN YOUR PRESENTATION, I WOULD LIKE TO JUST SUGGEST -- HEARTILY SUGGEST AS YOU REFERENCE THE LATINO COMMUNITY OR HISPANIC COMMUNITY OR ANY OTHER PEOPLE OF PIGMENT -- OTHER THAN THE POPULATION THAT IS STILL THE MAJORITY -- I WOULD STILL SUGGEST NOT ARTICULATING IT WITH PRICE OF HOMES AS AN INDICATOR.

OR AS A BLENDED FAMILY. BECAUSE THAT IS SUCH A CHARGED APPROACH. AND I KNOW -- MY HEART SAYS THAT YOUR INTENTION IS NOT TO CREATE A STIRRING OF A POT.

I KNOW THAT'S NOT YOUR INTENT. SO MY ONLY SUGGESTION IS IN REFERENCING THE POPULATION -- YOUR MAP HAS DONE A FAIRLY GOOD JOB OF TRYING TO CAPTURE IT PROPERLY.

I'M GRATEFUL FOR THE WORK. I WOULD JUST CAUTION THE GENERALIZATIONS AND DESCRIPTIONS.

I'M NOT SAYING THIS ABOUT YOU BUT IT'S A GENERAL CLICH?.

THE BROADER THE STATEMENT THE NARROWER THE MIND.

I DON'T WANT FOLKS TO LUMP LATINOS, HISPANICS, LATIN AMERICANS -- BECAUSE WE ARE ALL AMERICANS, RIGHT? I DON'T WANT US TO BE LUMPED IN A WAY THAT IS ABRASIVE ACCIDENTALLY. OKAY.

SO I DON'T KNOW IF COMMISSIONER SHELL KNOWS THIS, BUT -- OH, I THOUGHT YOU WERE IN ESSAYS SOMETHING.

>> YOU ASKED FOR A POINT OF CLARIFICATION.

I WORKED ON THE COMMITTEE THAT -- THIS IS YOUR PRECINCT. I VALUE YOUR EXPERIENCE IN THIS COUNTY GOVERNMENT. SO MY QUESTION IS, DO YOU KNOW BY CHANCE -- AND THIS IS NOT TRYING TO PUT YOU ON THE SPOT, BUT YOU KNOW BY CHANCE WHAT PERCENTAGE OF PRECINCT 3 TODAY

IS CONSIDERED RURAL OR URBAN? >> FROM JUST POPULATION? I CAN SAY -- IT'S BEEN A FEW YEARS AND I KNOW IT'S CHANGED SINCE THEN, BUT I WOULD SAY THE POPULATION OF PRECINCT 3 WAS PROBABLY A LITTLE OVER 50 PERCENT WOULD BE ASSOCIATED WITH SAN MARCUS. EITHER THE CITY OR THE ET J.

AND THE REST WIMBERLY VALLEY FOR THE MOST PART.

SO PRE-MUCH A 50-50 BALANCE OF INCORPORATORRESIDENTS .

THAT SAN MARCO'S PERCENTAGE IS PROBABLY A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN HALF. IT WOULD BE CONSIDERED IN THE CITY. BUT THERE IS A LARGE PERCENTAGE OF WHAT YOU WOULD CALL SAN MARCO'S RESIDENCE LIKE MYSELF THAT LIVE OUTSIDE THE CITY. SO A MAJORITY OF NON-INCORPORATED POPULATION, WHETHER IT'S (INDISCERNIBLE) VALLEY. THE CITY OF WIMBERLY IS PRETTY SMALL AND MOST OF THE RESIDENTS LIVE IN AN UNINCORPORATED AREA.

SO FROM A PERCENTAGE OF POPULATION, THE MAJORITY WOULD BE THOSE THAT LIVE IN UNINCORPORATED AREAS.FROM VOTING, I DO KNOW JUST FROM LOOKING AT THE ELECTIONS, THE MAJORITY OF THE VOTERS COME FROM THE WIMBERLY AREA.

AND IT'S PROBABLY NOT JUST THAT THEY TURN OUT THE VOTE MORE BUT THEY PROBABLY HAVE A HIGHER PERCENTAGE OF VOTING AGE RESIDENCE IN THAT POPULATION OF WIMBERLY VERSUS THE POPULATION OF SAN MARCUS. THEY ARE BOTH A LITTLE DIFFERENT.BUT FROM THE SAN MARCUS RESIDENT AREA TO WIMBERLY AREA RESIDENTS, IT'S ABOUT 50-50.

WHEN YOU GET INTO INCORPORATED AREAS, AS WE ALL KNOW, IT WOULD BE IMPOSSIBLE TO DRAW A PRECINCT THAT IS RURAL ONLY.

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BECAUSE THERE IS NOT ENOUGH POPULATION.

YOU CAN GET 60,000 PEOPLE. YOU HAVE TO GET INTO POPULATED AREAS. AND THAT'S THE CHALLENGE NO MATTER WHERE YOU DRAW THE LINE, IT'S GOING TO BE SOMEWHERE.

AND I THINK ALL THE MAPS ATTEMPT TO TRY TO GET THAT INTO WHAT IS A REASONABLE PLACE. THAT MAKES SENSE.

SOMEONE TOLD ME LIKE COMMISSIONER INGLEBY'S PRECINCT IS PROBABLY -- A LOT MORE KYLE THAN IT WAS 20 YEARS AGO AND POPULATION. PROBABLY 0 YEARS AGO, PRECINCT 1, I'M SURE FOR THE MOST PART -- 99 PERCENT.

OBVIOUSLY, IT WOULD BE GREAT IF PRECINCT 1, IF YOU COULD CREATE A PRECINCT THE COMMUNITY OF INTEREST OF SAN MARCUS, ONE THAT LIED TO BE IN (INDISCERNIBLE).

WHERE KYLE BEGINS. THAT IS NOT POSSIBLE FROM A POPULATION STANDPOINT. THAT'S WHY I KEEP GOING BACK TO WHERE IS THAT LINE MOST APPROPRIATE? THAT TOO NINE, I BELIEVE? AND 125 IS THE TWO.

IN THAT 229 IS SO BIG. I'M SURE THERE ARE PLENTY OF PEOPLE LIVING THERE ALREADY. BETTING THAT THE GROWTH OF THAT TOO NINE IS PROBABLY GOING TO BE ONE OF THE FASTER GROWING OF

THOSE TWO IN THE COUNTY. >> IF WE WERE LOOKING INTO THE

FUTURE, YES. >> YEAH.

THAT'S GOING TO CHANGE. WE KNOW THAT POPULATION IS CHANGING ON A DAILY BASIS. IT'S JUST HOW TO BALANCE THAT LINE BETWEEN PRECINCTS. AGAIN, NEITHER ONE ARE MY PRECINCTS. I'M JUST LOOKING OUT OF INTEREST AS THE BEST WAY TO DO THIS.

NOT JUST FOR TODAY BUT AS A FUTURE.

AND HOW TO MAINTAIN BOTH MAJORITY AND MINORITY VOTERS.

>> THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER. AND COMMISSIONER SHELL, WHICH IS ACTUALLY MY COMMISSIONER. I HAVE ALWAYS BEEN A PRECINCT 3 RESIDENT. I WILL SAY THAT YES, MY PERSONAL PRECINCT, REITERATED WHAT I BELIEVE.

WHICH IS LET'S REMEMBER WE ARE ALL HIS COUNTY RESIDENTS.

WE ARE ALL IN THIS TOGETHER. AND WE HAVE MORE IN COMMON THEN WE DON'T. THERE IS A BONA FIDE, GENUINE SPLIT OF PRECINCT 3. WHICH IS HALF OF US IS URBAN AND HALF OF US ARE RURAL AND PRECINCT 3. AND IT IS STILL A LONG-STANDING REPUBLICAN BOX. AND IF YOU WANT TO GO POLITICAL DESCRIPTIONS. MY POINT IN THAT IS -- AND THERE ARE LOTS OF WHAT WE CAN CONSIDER TEXAS STATE BOXES IN THREE TODAY. AND SO, LET'S NOT MAKE THE MISTAKE. LET'S NOT MAKE THE MISTAKE OF -- DILUTING REPRESENTATION. AGAIN, WE ARE ALL HIS COUNTY RESIDENTS. I'M GOING TO RUN FOR REELECTION. I WILL TELL YOU TODAY.

AND HOW THESE LINES END UP IS NOT GOING TO AFFECT MY RACE.

I AM GENUINELY SAYING THIS FOR UNITY OF COMMUNITY.

TO MOVE AS MANY AS WE CAN THAT WE PERCEIVE TO BE BULKHEAD BOXES. AND CREATE THE IMPRESSION OF -- A DILUTION OF REPRESENTATION WILL STOP IT'S JUST -- IN MY OPINION, NOT THE BEST IDEA STOP AND IT IS NOT AS -- I DON'T WANT TO USE THE WORD SCARY, BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE I'M POKING AT SOMEONE WHEN I USE THAT WORD.

BUT THAT'S WHERE THAT COMES TO MIND AND I DON'T MEAN TO POKE ANYONE. IT'S NOT AS SCARY AS IT MAY SEEM TO HAVE SOME TEXAS STATE BOXES IN M3.

AND SO ALL I SAY IS LET'S NOT NEEDLESSLY OVERREACH TO PUSH EVERYTHING INTO ONE. BECAUSE WE ARE STILL A DIVERSE COMMUNITY. REGARDLESS OF HOW THE LINES END UP.ND IT WILL BE UP TO THE ELECTED OFFICIALS TO TELL THEIR STORY TO CONVINCE THE VOTER. BECAUSE I BELIEVE WE ARE THIS -- A PURPLE COUNTY.E ARE A PURPLE COUNTY SUBTYPE REPUBLICAN AND DEMOCRAT SUPPORTS.

I'VE DEMOCRATS THAT HATE ME AND REPUBLICANS THAT HATE ME.

[APPLAUSE] [LAUGHTER] IT IS WHAT IT IS. BUT WE HAVE TO WALK AWAY SAYING WE DID OUR BEST TO NOT HAVE ANYONE NOT FEEL MARGINALIZED.

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AND I FEEL IF WE DO A HARD PUSH AND WHAT WE PERCEIVE AS WELL-KEPT BOXES? IT'S JUST GOING TO CREATE UNNECESSARY TENSION FOR US ALL. AND THAT'S MY ONLY PIECE THAT I WILL SAY. AND AS A LONGTIME STANDING THREE RESIDENT, IT HAS BEEN FOR MANY YEARS A

REPUBLICAN-CONTROLLED BOX. >> JUDGE, CAN YOU BRING THAT UP ON THE SCREEN? THAT AREA?

>> WHAT AREA? THE CENTRAL CAMPUS?

>> YEAH. THAT CENTRAL PART.

>> SURE. >> THANK YOU, JUDGE.

I DON'T HAVE ANY COMMENT I JUST WANTED TO LOOK AT IT.

>> I WORKED ON ONE OF THE COMMITTEES THAT FUNDS (INDISCERNIBLE). EVERY YEAR THERE IS A CERTIFICATION PROCESS FOR ANY INSTITUTION THAT WANTS TO BE CERTIFIED AS AN HSI. AFTER FIRST BE ELIGIBLE.HEY HAVE TO BE AN INSTITUTION OF HIGHER LEARNING.

SECONDLY, THEY HAVE TO HAVE AT LEAST (INDISCERNIBLE) OF FULL-TIME STUDENT ENROLLMENT HAS TO BE HISPANIC.

THOSE STUDENTS, 25 PERCENT OF THE UNIVERSITY ITSELF HAS TO HAVE FULL-TIME HISPANIC STUDENT ENROLLMENT.

THOSE ARE WHAT THE TWO OVERLYING QUALIFIERS OF THE STATE AND FEDERAL LEVEL ARE. IT DOESN'T MATTER, FOR EXAMPLE, THE COMMITTEE I WORKED ON WAS AGRICULTURAL COMMITTEE.

WE FUNDED ALL THE AGRICULTURAL INSTITUTIONS.

THOSE GUIDELINES ARE ACTUALLY DICTATED BY THE DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION. AND THEY ARE PUT FORWARD TO EACH ONE OF THE OTHER DEPARTMENTS IN THE US

GOVERNMENT. >> THANK YOU FOR THAT, COMMISSIONER. THE GOAL AND THAT ARTICULATION WAS BASICALLY TO SAY, IN PART, AND I THINK YOU TO SUPPORT THAT INFORMATION. TO SAY IN PART THAT I WANT A FINER GRANULATED ASSESSMENT OF THAT DESCRIPTION.

BECAUSE I FEEL WE ARE BLURRING THE LINES -- I KNOW THIS IS GENERAL AND BROAD -- TO SAY COMMISSIONER INGALSBE'S RESIDENCE THAT ARE THE BOBCATS. THAT ARE THE TEXAS STATE STUDENTS. WE KNOW THAT'S NOT TRUE.

SO THAT WAS MY ONLY HOPE IN CREATING FURTHER ARTICULATION.

TO SAY IF YOU LOVE THE HISPANIC SERVING INSTITUTIONS WITH PRECINCT 1 AND SAY THEY ARE ALL PROTECTED.

THEY ARE ALL IN THE SAME POCKET? I JUST FEEL -- TO USE A WORD THAT IS VERY RELEVANT TODAY -- DISINGENUOUS. IN MY PERSPECTIVE.

BUT AGAIN, I DON'T MEAN ANYTHING I AM SAYING AS AN ATTACK. BECAUSE I DO BELIEVE THIS IS A SINCERE EFFORT. I WILL GET MR. MYERS UP TO

EXPLAIN THAT TO US. >> I JUST HAVE ONE QUICK QUESTION, JUDGE. I DON'T BELIEVE THIS WAS TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT. MAYBE IT WAS.

I KNOW WE HAVE A LOT OF -- GOSH -- LOTS THAT HAVE BEEN PERMITTED. THERE IS A LOT OF DEVELOPMENT OCCURRING RIGHT NOW. I DON'T KNOW IF WE TOOK ANY OF THAT INTO CONSIDERATION. I THINK I'VE MENTIONED THIS BEFORE. ONE OF MY FEARS IS WE ARE GOING TO BE ALREADY UNBALANCED WHEN WE ADOPT ANY MAP.

BECAUSE THERE IS SO MUCH GROWTH HAPPENING IN SO MANY DIFFERENT PARTS OF THIS AREA. YOU GO TO PRECINCT 1 AND TO AND YOU CAN SEE ALL THESE LOTS THAT ARE BEING CREATED.

AND THEY WILL BE FILLED. I DON'T KNOW IF ANY OF THAT AT ALL WAS TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION.

I THINK MR. BASS SAID WE MAY WANT TO TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION. BECAUSE WE KNOW THESE PEOPLE WILL BE COMING TO THESE AREAS BECAUSE OF DEVELOPMENT THAT IS OCCURRING. WAS ANY OF THAT TAKEN INTO

CONSIDERATION AT ALL? >> THE RAC MEMBERS AND OTHERS HAVE DISCUSSED THOSE FACTORS. BUT THE CHARGE TO THE RAC AND THE CHARTER AND THE CHARGE TO YOU ALL, ULTIMATELY, IS TO FIND A BALANCE OF THE PRECINCTS WITH THE CENSUS NUMBERS FROM 2020.

THAT DOES NOT ANTICIPATE GROWTH.

SO THE BALANCING ACT THAT WE ARE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH, REALLY, IS REALLY RETROACTIVE BY A YEAR, UNFORTUNATELY.

>> THE REALIGNMENT OF 2001 GOES TO THE MIDDLE.

BUT YOU ARE JUST GUESSING WHERE THAT IS GOING TO BE.

>> RIGHT. THAT'S THE POINT I'M MAKING.

RIGHT NOW, I KNOW OF AT LEAST 18,000 HOMES THAT ARE PERMITTED AND PLATTED. OR IN SOME STATES ARE PLATTING IN THE DRIPPING SPRINGS AREA. JUST IN THAT SMALL FOOTPRINT.

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NOT THE REMAINDER OF THAT AREA. TRUST IN THE ONE SMALL

FOOTPRINT. >> MR. PARKS, I WANT TO GIVE YOU AN OPPORTUNITY TO COMMENT, REPLY, OR WHATEVER YOU LIKE.

AND IF YOU HAVE NOTHING TO CONTRIBUTE ON THAT SPACE, THEN WE WILL MOVE OVER TO MR. MYERS TO DESCRIBE THE MAP.

>> SURE, I WILL BE BRIEF. COMMISSIONER SMITH, YOU MENTIONED THE JP AND CONSTABLE PRECINCTS.

I CAN TELL YOU THAT WE DID HAVE MEETINGS WITH GPS AND CONSTABLES AND THAT WESTERN SIDE OF THE COUNTY.

IT DIDN'T SEEM LIKE THERE WAS THAT MUCH NEED TO (INDISCERNIBLE) PRECINCT 1. UNFORTUNATELY, I DID NOT ATTEND THAT MEETING. I WAS OUT OF TOWN THAT DAY.

BUT I PROVIDED THE MEETING AGENDA TO HAPPEN.

THE OVERALL CONSIDERATION OUT OF THAT MEETING WAS THAT THE CONSTABLES AND THE GPS IN THAT AREA WERE PRETTY MUCH HAPPY WITH WHAT THEY HAVE RIGHT NOW, IN CONJUNCTION WITH THESE MAPS THAT WERE DRAWN. THERE WERE A COUPLE OF LITTLE TWEAKS WHICH I WON'T GO INTO RIGHT HERE.

THEY WERE VERY MINOR. AND THERE WAS AGREEMENT AMONG THE JP AND CONSTABLES ON THOSE ISSUES.

THEY WERE VERY, VERY MINOR. AND WHAT DID I MISS HERE? THERE WAS SOME QUESTION ABOUT GROWTH.

AND ALTHOUGH MR. KENNEDY WAS CORRECT, THAT THAT WAS NOT THE CHARGE OF THE RAC COMMISSION, I CAN TELL YOU IT WAS DEFINITELY INCLUDED IN THE DISCUSSION AND INCLUDED IN THE PUBLIC COMMENT THAT WE HAD THROUGHOUT THE AREA.

BECAUSE THAT IS A REAL CONSIDERATION.

ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU ARE LOOKING AT A 10 YEAR PLAN.

WHERE ARE WE GOING WITH THIS THING? AND SO, I THINK MR. MYERS CAN THAT DATA A LITTLE BIT WHEN HE COMES UP HERE. BUT YES, ALTHOUGH IT WAS NOT THE CHARGE OF THE COMMISSION, IT WAS CERTAINLY A POINT OF DISCUSSION ALONG THE WAY. WE DO HAVE A LOT OF CONCENTRATED GROWTH IN PRECINCT 2 AND PRECINCT 4. AND MY CONCERN THAT I BROUGHT UP WITH SOME OF THE GROWTH AND PRECINCT 1 WERE THESE HIGH-RISE STUDENT BUILDINGS THAT HAVE SO MANY STUDENTS IN THEM SO QUICKLY. ONE OTHER THING I MIGHT COMMENT, JUDGE, YOU USE THE WORD MEXICAN WHEN REFERRING TO THE MINORITY GROUP. NOWHERE IN OUR DISCUSSION DID I RECALL THAT WE EVER USE THE WORD MEXICAN.

HAD WE DONE THAT, I WOULD HAVE PROBABLY CHALLENGE THAT.'M A GUY AS A TEENAGER WHO GREW UP IN VENEZUELA.

MY BEST FRIEND HAS LIVED IN HOUSES MADE OUT OF CARDBOARD AND TIN CANS AND DIRT FLOORS. I HAVE A GREAT AFFINITY IN MY HEART FOR PEOPLE WHO HAVE LESS THAN I DO.

I ALSO KNOW THAT THE DISCUSSION ACROSS TEXAS RIGHT NOW, WHEN YOU ARE LOOKING AT THE LATINO COMMUNITY OR POPULATION -- THOSE FOLKS WANT TO BE REFERRED TO AS TEJANO'S.

BECAUSE THEY WERE HERE LONG BEFORE THE BORDER BETWEEN TEXAS AND MEXICO WAS DRAWN. AND THE BORDER WAS DRAWN AT THE RIVER AND LEFT THEM HERE. SO THEY CONSIDER THEMSELVES TEJANO'S. AND THAT'S WITH THE DEMOGRAPHICS MOVING FROM THE VALLEY UP THROUGH CORPUS AND INTO SAN ANTONIO IS CURRENTLY REFLECTING.

WE ARE SEEING THAT IN HASTE TOO.

>> AND I WANT TO SAY YOU ARE EXACTLYRIGHT.

I NEVER WANTED TO SAY THAT IS WHAT YOU SAID.

THOSE WERE GENERALIZING DESCRIPTIONS.

BUT YOU ARE RIGHT. TEJANO IS ANOTHER DESCRIPTION THAT CAN BE USED. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU, MR. PARKS. >> JUDGE, COMMISSIONER.

GOOD MORNING TO STOP MY NAME IS STEVE MEYER.

I'M A MEMBER OF THE REDISTRICTING COMMISSION.

FOR LACK OF BETTER TERM, I HAVE THE AUTHOR OF THE MAP AS SOME TOO. STRICTLY BECAUSE I THE TECHNICAL EXPERTISE TO PUT IT TOGETHER.

IT WAS A GROUP EFFORT. BEFORE I DISCUSS THE MAP, I WOULD LIKE US TO REWIND A LITTLE BIT.

I THINK THERE ARE VERY IMPORTANT DEFINITIONS THAT WE ARE SKIMMING OVER. IT GOES BACK TO THE VERY BEGINNING. THE CENSUS.

WHAT WAS THE PURPOSE OF THE CENSUS? THE PURPOSE OF THE CENSUS FROM ITS FOUNDATION WAS A PROPER PORTION OF REPRESENTATION IN THE UNITED STATES.

TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY HAS A VOICE.

AND THAT COUNT IS BASED ON POPULATION.

IRREGARDLESS -- WHO, THAT'S A BAD WORD! MY WIFE WOULD HANG ME! [LAUGHTER] REGARDLESS OF AGE.

THE CENSUS -- EXCUSE ME -- POPULATION IS THE BASIS OF THE SENSES. WITH THE VOTING RIGHTS ACT, TO PROTECTTHE INTEREST AND REPRESENTATION OF MINORITY INTERESTS , IT BECAME A VOTING AGE CONCERN.

WHICH IS 18 AND OVER. THOSE TWO ITEMS DON'T

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NECESSARILY AGREE. PEOPLE DON'T AGE (INDISCERNIBLE). AND PEOPLE DON'T HAVE THE SAME NUMBER OF CHILDREN IN DIFFERENT GROUPS IN DIFFERENT LOCATIONS IN THE COUNTRY, ETC. SO SOMETIMES IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO MATCH POPULATION REPRESENTATION AND VOTING REPRESENTATION. THAT WAS ONE OF THE CHALLENGES WE FACE HERE.N THE QUARTERS WERE THE GROWTH WAS -- PRECINCT.

PRECINCT 4 WAS VERY CLOSE. IT WAS PRECINCT 2 AND THREE THAT WERE OUT OF ALIGNMENT. THREE WAS OUT OF ALIGNMENT FOR LACK OF GROWTH. TWO WAS OUT OF ALIGNMENT BECAUSE OF HYPER GROWTH. THAT'S BEEN ON THE NORTHERN QUARTER OF I 35. THE GROWTH ALONG I-35 ITSELF HAS NOT BEEN EVEN. IT IS BEEN ALONG THE BUDA AND KYLE AREA PRIVATE PREDOMINANTLY.

ANOTHER IMPORTANT FACT IS THAT DICTATE OF THE CENSUS BY LAW IS THAT WE HAVE TO DO OUR JOB BASED ON THE POPULATION COUNT AT THE TIME OF THE CENSUS. IT DOES NOT ALLOW FOR SPECULATION. BECAUSE SPECULATIONS CAN ALWAYS CHANGE. YOU CAN HAVE 18,000 ROOFTOPS PLOTTED. AND THE DEVELOPER COULD GO OUT OF BUSINESS AND THEY WOULD NEVER GET BUILT.

COVID COULD HAPPEN. IN WHICH CASE WE WOULD HAVE HYPER GROWTH. BUT THE REVERSE COULD HAPPEN JUST AS EASILY. YOU CAN'T SPECULATE ON THE FUTURE. NONE OF US HAVE A CRYSTAL BALL.

SO WHAT WE HAVE TO BASE OUR DECISIONS AND WHAT WE DO OUR JOB BASED ON HIS ACTUAL FACTS. GRANTED, BECAUSE OF COVID AND EVERYTHING THAT WENT ON, WE ARE A YEAR LATE IN GETTING INVOLVED IN THIS. BUT WE ARE DING THE BEST WE CAN TO CATCH UP AND KEEP THINGS ON COURSE.

I JUST WANTED TO REMIND EVERYBODY.

WE ARE BANTERING NUMBERS BACK AND FORTH BETWEEN POPULATION AND VOTING AGE. AND THE TWO AREN'T DISTINCT AND DO NOT BALANCE. IF YOU LOOK AT THE NUMBERS AND VOTING AGE POPULATION, YOU WILL SEE BIG DISCREPANCIES IN SOME AREAS. BECAUSE THERE IS A LOT OF 35 CORRIDOR.ND MORE RETIRED, ESTABLISHED AS WE LIKE TO SAY, HE'S COUNTY IN THE WESTERN BORDER.

WITH THAT IN MIND, AS WE WENT TO DEVELOP OUR MAP, WE BARED IN MIND SOME IMPORTANT FACTS. THERE ALSO PART OF THE CENSUS.

COMMUNITIES OF INTEREST.WHAT ARE THOSE? THE CENSUS HAS LONG DESIGNATED COMMUNITIES OF INTEREST IN THE BEGINNING RURAL VERSUS URBAN. IN THE COUNTRY WAS FOUNDED, THAT'S WHAT IT WAS. YOU HAVE FARMERS AND RANCHERS AND THE PEOPLE IN THE CITIES. AS IT EVOLVED UP, INDIAN RESERVATIONS WERE INCLUDED. PROTECTED LAND AND PROTECT THE TERRITORIES. COLLEGES WERE RECOGNIZED AS COMMUNITIES OF INTEREST.HE COMMUNITIES OF INTEREST SPREAD.

AND THEN, OF COURSE, WITH THE VOTING RIGHTS ACT, PARTICULAR MINORITIES. SO WE TRIED TO BEAR ALL OF THAT MINE. MUNICIPALITIES ARE TECHNICALLY A COMMUNITY OF INTEREST. THE CENSUS RECOMMENDS THAT YOU DO NOT BREAK UP A MUNICIPALITY MORE THAN NECESSARY.

IT'S NOT HARD ROLE BUT IT'S THEIR RECOMMENDATION.

SO AS WE'RE GOING THROUGH AND LOOKING AT ALL OF THAT, WE ALSO WANTED TO BEAR IN MIND OPPORTUNITY AS PART OF THE VOTING RIGHTS ACT. BECAUSE THAT'S THE WHOLE PURPOSE OF THE ACT. TO MAKE SURE THERE IS OPPORTUNITY. WE AREN'T GUARANTEEING ANYTHING, BUT WE ARE MAKING SURE NOTHING IS HINDERING.

SO HE LOOKED AT OPPORTUNITY. PRECINCT 1, WE HAVE A WELL-ESTABLISHED LEGACY -- A COMMISSIONER WHO IS ESTABLISHED. SHE HASN'T HAD AN OPPONENT SINCE 2012. SHE IS WELL RESPECTED AND WELL REGARDED. AND SHE REPRESENTS A LARGELY HISPANIC COMMUNITY. BUT I WOULDN'T SAY THAT'S HER ANGER. I WOULD SAY SHE IS A VERY GOOD REPRESENTATIVE, BUT SHE IS ALSO A GOOD REPRESENTATIVE PERIOD.

THAT WAS ONE THING WE KEPT IN MIND.

SO LOOKING AT THAT, IT WAS NOT JUST ABOUT PROTECTING THAT LEGACY, BUT CREATING OTHER OPPORTUNITIES.

WE LOOKED AT PRECINCT 2 FOR THAT.

BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE THE GROWTH HAS BEEN.

BOTH AN POPULATION AND IN THE MINORITY POPULATION IN GENERAL.

SO WE LOOKED AT THOSE VARIOUS FACTORS AS WE ARE WEIGHING ALL OUR CHANGES. AND AGAIN, WE HAVE COUNTERCLOCKWISE ROTATING ALL THESE PRECINCTS TO GET AROUND THE FACT THAT TWO AND THREE DO NOT TOUCH.

WE LOOKED AT TEXAS STATE UNIVERSITY.

WE LOOKED AT SAN MARCUS. TEXAS STATE UNIVERSITY IN THE CURRENT SITUATION IS REPRESENTED BY THREE DIFFERENT COMMISSIONERS.YOU HAVE PRECINCTS IN 100, 300, 334 -- AND YOU HAVE 414. SO THE UNIVERSITY ITSELF IS DILUTED. EVEN THOUGH AS A COMMUNITY OF INTEREST, THE UNIVERSITY BEST REPRESENTS A WIDESPREAD MINORITY REPRESENTATION OF THE COMMUNITY.

SPEAKING OF MINORITY REPRESENTATION, AS WE LOOK AT THE DATA, THE CENSUS BUREAU HAS DISTINGUISHED THE WHITE, THE HISPANIC, THE AFRICAN-AMERICAN OR BLACK, THE NATIVE AMERICAN OR ALASKAN INDIAN -- THE HAWAIIAN, ASIAN PACIFIC, THE

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VARIOUS POPULATION IS WHAT THEY CONSIDER ALONE.

MEANING THAT BOTH PARENTS ARE THE SAME MINORITY.

SO IT'S A SINGLE MINORITY FAMILY.

AND THEN WHAT THEY CONSIDER MULTI, WHICH IS TWO OR MORE.

AND THERE IS ANOTHER CATEGORY -- OTHER -- THAT ARE PART OF ANY DESIGNATED CATEGORIES. SO WHEN WE ARE BREAKING DOWN THESE NUMBERS AND SAYING IS 50 PERCENT HISPANIC, THAT'S 50 PERCENT HISPANIC ALONE. BY THE CENSUS OWNED GUIDELINES THIS YEAR, THEYSAID FOR THE FIRST TIME EVER WE HAVE SEEN SIGNIFICANT GROWTH IN THE MULTI CATEGORY.

AS WE SEE MORE MULTI FAMILY, MULTI RACIAL, BLENDED TYPE FAMILIES. YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT THE TOTAL MINORITY MAKEUP FOR A COUNTY. THE TOTAL MINORITY MAKEUP FOR PRECINCT. AND WE TRY TO WEIGH THAT IN AS WELL. SO IN SUMARY, BUT I'M TRYING TO SAY IS DON'T JUST LOOK AT A SPECIFIC ALONE CATEGORY.

LOOK AT THE OPPORTUNTY THAT IS PROVIDED TO ALL MINORITIES.

LOOK AT THE TOTAL BALANCE OF REPRESENTATION.

AND IN THE CENSUS THIS YEAR, THEY COMMENTED TO YOUR COMMENT, JUDGE, EARLIER DESK OF THE CENSUS SAID THE HISPANIC DESIGNATION MAY NEED TO BE CHANGED BEFORE THE NEXT CENSUS.

BECAUSE THEY HAD MANY PEOPLE WHO COULD NOT DESIGNATE THEMSELVES AS HISPANIC OR CHOSE OTHER.

BECAUSE THEY FELT MORE TO HANO OR LATINO OR CENTRAL AMERICAN.

NOT NECESSARILY GROUPED INTO HISPANIC CATEGORY.

WE ARE USING A BROAD PAINTBRUSH AND PEOPLE DON'T WANT TO BE NECESSARILY PIGEONHOLED ANYMORE.

BECAUSE WE ARE BECOMING LESS COLOR CENTRIC AND MORE OF A POPULATION CENTRIC. AND I THINK IT'S A GREAT IDEA.

ALL THAT BEING SAID, WE TRIED TO CREATE A SITUATION WHERE TO COMMISSIONER PRECINCTS WERE LARGELY MINORITY REPRESENTED.

AND PROVIDE THE OPPORTUNITY FOR COLLECTIVE REPRESENTATION OF MUNICIPALITIES. YES, WE DID PUT THE UNIVERSITIES TOGETHER. WE LOOKED AT SEVERAL THINGS -- NOT JUST THE LOCATION OR THE FACT THAT IT WAS CONCENTRATED IN SAN MARCUS. BUT ALSO THE AGE GROUP.

IN THREE PRECINCTS, THE AVERAGE VOTING AGE ARE 22.

THEY HAVE MUCH DIFFERENT INTERESTS THAN 57, 65, AND 70-YEAR-OLDS IN THE RURAL AREAS.

SO WE WANTED THEM TO HAVE A COLLECTIVE VOICE IN THEIR GOVERNANCE. AND THEIR NEEDS ARE VERY IMPORTANT IN THAT STANDPOINT. WE DID THE ADJUSTMENTS TO CREATE COMMUNITIES OF INTEREST THAT WERE REPRESENTED.

THEY WERE BALANCED. THAT WERE TO CORRECTLY PROTECT ALL THE EXISTENCE NCUMBENTS. AND ALSO PROVIDE OPPORTUNITIES FOR THEM TO CONTINUE TO REPRESENT THEIR PEOPLE.

IN MARK'S CASE, HE HAS BEEN A LONG-TERM REPRESENTATIVE -- EXCUSE ME, COMMISSIONER JONES. IN COMMISSIONER JONES CASE, A REPRESENTATIVE IN PRECINCT 2. HE IS ALSO CONSIDERED A LEGACY REPRESENTATIVE. WE FEEL COMFORTABLE THAT WITH THE ADJUSTMENTS WE HAVE MADE, HE CAN CONTINUE TO BE A GREAT REPRESENTATIVE FOR HIS PEOPLE. THAT IS THE BASIS.

ONE THING I WAS PLEASED ABOUT AND I DO WANT TO COMPLEMENT DR.

TRAY ON ON THIS. I WAS PLEASE.

BOTH OF OUR MAPS -- ALMOST THE FIRST TO THIS VERSION ARE VERY SIMILAR. THEY WERE WIDELY APART LIKE YOU MIGHT EXPECT AND PARTISANSHIP ORBIT THE CASE MAY BE.

I THINK WE WERE ALL LOOKING FOR THE SAME GOALS.

WE MIGHT HAVE LITTLE DEFINITION VARIANCES BUT WE ULTIMATELY ARE TRYING TO DO WHAT IS BEST FOR THE COUNTY.

PROVIDING FAIR REPRESENTATION, FAIR REPRESENTED DISTRICTS AND CREATE A VOICE FOR THE COUNTY THAT GOES COUNTYWIDE.

AND THAT IS MY MAP -- OUR MAP -- THAT I PUT TOGETHER.

I'M GLAD TO ASK ANY QUESTIONS SPECIFIC TO THE MAP.

>> I HAD THE PRIVILEGE OF WATCHING AND SITTING IN THIS COURTROOM WHEN YOU PRESENTED IT THE VERY FIRST TIME.

AND I WILL TELL YOU, MR. MEYER, THAT YOUR LEVEL OF DEDICATION AND UNDERSTANDING AND PASSION FOR THE CREATION OF THIS MAP WAS PALPABLE TO ME. SO I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU. I REALLY DO APPRECIATE IT.

I DO APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENT. GENERALLY SPEAKING, THESE MAPS ARE SO SIMILAR. BECAUSE THAT'S HOW I FEEL ABOUT THE COMMISSION WE CREATED. GENERALLY SPEAKING, WE ARE ON THE SAME PAGE. WE USUALLY ARE.

AND I THANK YOU FOR THAT AS WELL.

GO AHEAD. >> I WOULD SAY THAT I FIND IT INTERESTING SPEAKING TO MY COLLEAGUES FROM OTHER COUNTIES WHERE THEY SET UP SIMILAR PROCESSES.

WHAT YOU FIND IS A COUNTY LIKE US, WE ARE A PURPLE COUNTY.

I THINK WE ALL UNDERSTAND THAT. I THINK THE LEVEL OF WORK

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EFFORT AND THE LEVEL OF WORKING TOGETHER ON THAT CONDITION -- WE'VE ALL SAID IT -- IT'S NICE TO SEE.

WHERE I HAVE SEEN AND DISCUSSED WITH OTHER COLLEAGUES IN OTHER COUNTIES, TRUE -- I DON'T KNOW ANOTHER WAY TO SAY IT -- ANGST OVER THIS PROCESS.T'S HARDLY EVER A PARTISAN FIGHT.

THERE ARE COUNTIES THAT ARE ALL REPUBLIC N OR DEMOCRAT.

AND THEY ARE FIGHTING OVER NEIGHBORHOODS WHERE THEY THINK THE INDIVIDUAL COMMISSIONERS CAN THINK THEY CAN PULL MORE VOTES OUT OF ONE NEIGHBORHOOD. ECAUSE THEY ARE MORE WELL-KNOWN THAN NOT. AND IT'S NOT A PARTISAN BATTLE.

IT'S AN INTERPARTY BATTLE THAT IS BRUTAL AT TIMES.

AND IF YOU COLLEAGUES FROM LARGER COUNTIES LIKE BEAR COUNTY AND OTHER AREAS, WHAT YOU FIND VERY QUICKLY IS THAT IT'S NOT A PARTISAN -- OR, IT HASN'T BEEN PARTISAN FROM A PARTY STANDPOINT.T HAS BEEN VERY PARTISAN WHEN IT BREAKS DOWN TO THOSE INDIVIDUAL COMMUNITIES.

WHETHER THAT BE NEIGHBORHOODS OR WHETHER THAT BE ETHNICALLY.

AND SO, AGAIN, I WOULD JUST COMMENT THAT I AM VERY PROUD OF THE WORK THAT BOTH OF THESE MAPS HAVE ON THEM.

Y'ALL DID A GREAT JOB. I DON'T WANT TO GLOSS OVER THE FACT THAT BOTH OF THESE MAPS WERE REVIEWED BY ALL OF YOUR MEMBERS. AND BOTH OF THEM ARE SO SIMILAR. I MEAN, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT -- AND I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR ONE THING, TO COMMISSIONER SHELL'S POINT EARLIER -- TO GET SOME OF THOSE FIND TWEAKS -- IF WE LOOK AT SOME OF THESE INDIVIDUAL VOTING BOXES, Y'ALL USED THE DIRECTION OF KEEPING THE CURRENT VOTING BOXES THAT WE HAVE INTACT. WE KNOW OVER THE LAST TWO YEARS THAT WE HAVE HAD TO COME IN BECAUSE OF STATE REGULATION AND STATUTORY REQUIREMENTS. WE HAD TO SPLIT VOTING BOXES TWICE SINCE WE HAVE BEEN ON THE COURT.

DOING THAT UNDER THIS EFFORT, TO TRY TO MAKE SOME OF THOSE TWEAKS, WHERE WE KNOW WE ARE GOING TO HAVE SOME OF THOSE ISSUES OVER THE NEXT TWO OR THREE YEARS?I THINK THAT LOOKING AT THESE MAPS, THEY ARE SO SIMILAR THAT IF WE CAN SPLIT A BOX NOW VERSUS WAITING TWO YEARS AND TRY TO CATCH UP AGAIN? I THINK YOU ALL HAVE GIVEN US A GREAT, GREAT STARTING POINT. IF NOTHIG ELSE.

IT MAY BE AN ENDING POINT. I DON'T KNOW.

EITHER ONE OF THESE. BUT IF WE COULD POSSIBLY CUT ONE OR TWO OF THOSE TWEAKS. NOW THAT WE HAVE THE FINAL TWO VERSIONS OF THE MAP, WE HAVE TO HAVE THESE THINGS ADOPTED PROBABLY BY THE END OF NEXT WEEK TO HAVE THE CANDIDATES FILE IN THESE RACES. HAVING THE OPPORTUNITY TO TAKE A HARD DIVE OVER THE NEXT SEVEN DAYS INTO THESE INDIVIDUAL BOXES TO MAKE A COUPLE OF THOSE TWEAKS AND STAY WITHIN THE REGULATORY AUTHORITY TO ADDRESS SOME OF THE CONCERNS BROUGHT UP TODAY. I THINK THAT MIGHT BE POSSIBLE.

>> TO YOUR POINT, THAT'S EXACTLY IT.

FOR EXPEDIENCY, WE WOULD STAY WITH ETD'S.

OR THE VOTING PRECINCTS.THE VOTING TABULATION DISTRICTS.

RATHER THAN BREAK DOWN BY CENSUS BLOCKS.

BECAUSE THAT MAKES IT FAR MORE COMPLICATED FOR DRAWING THE MAPS AND REVIEWING THE MAPS AND LOOKING AT DATA.

SO WE WERE ABLE TO WORK RAPIDLY.

WE DIDN'T EVEN GET THE DATA UNTIL SEPTEMBER 16.

THIS HAS BEEN A SHORT AND ACCELERATED PROCESS OF WHAT NORMALLY HAPPENS. SO WE DID LOOK AT THAT.

ULTIMATELY, YOU HAVE THE RIGHT AND THE ABILITY IS TO TAKE ANY MAP AND ADJUST IT OR CHOOSE IT OR ALTER EITHER ONE OF IT.

WE RECOGNIZE THAT. OUR GOAL, I THINK WELL AGREED ON, EVEN IF IT WASN'T STIPULATED WAS WE WANTED TO PRESENT YOU OPTIONS. NOT THIS IS WHAT WE THINK YOU SHOULD ADOPT BUT HERE ARE TWO DIFFERENT VIEWS FROM A PURPLE COUNTY. SO THAT YOU CAN ALL LOOK AT IT AND REVIEW IT AND MAKE THE FINAL NECESSARY TWEAKS.

WE JUST WANTED TO DO THE HEAVY LIFTING AND GIVE YOU A

FOUNDATION. >> YOU HAVE DONE THAT VERY

WELL. >> AND TO YOUR COMMENT -- IT IS BEEN A PLEASURE. A LITTLE MORE WORK THAN I EXPECTED. I'LL BE BLUNT WITH YOU.

THIS IS THE FIRST TIME I HAVEN'T BEEN HANDED THE TOOLS OR THE DATA BY THE COUNTY. SO WE CAME UP WITH OUR OWN WAY TO DO THIS. IF YOU THINK ABOUT IT, WE CAME FROM DIFFERENT ANGLES AND CAME TO THE SAME CONCLUSIONS.

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BUT ULTIMATELY, WE WORK TOGETHER.

WE HAD SOME GREAT, HEALTHY DEBATE.

IT WAS ALWAYS VERY RESPECTFUL. I WALKED AWAY FEELING MUCH BETTER ABOUT THE WHOLE PROCESS THEN I WENT INTO IT.

>> AND I APPRECIATE THAT. IN THE VERY FIRST MEETING WHEN WE PRESENTED YOUR FIRST MAP, I WAS SITTING IN THIS ROOM.

AND I HEARD US AS A BODY -- EVEN THOUGH I WAS A HAPPY WITNESS -- COME TOGETHER AND SAY OKAY.

LET'S CREATE A PAR . LET'S USE VOTING BOXES.

OKAY. LET'S CREATE A UNIFORMITY.

AND I SAW THAT SYNCHRONIZING EFFORTLESSLY TAKE PLACE.

OMMISSIONER SHELL? >> THANKS, JUDGE.

I APPRECIATE ALL THE WORK THAT MR. MYRON THE WHOLE GROUP PUT INTO IT. I THINK WE ARE SAYING THAT THEY REALLY DID SPEND THEIR TIME VERY, VERY WISELY AND VERY WELL CONSIDERING THEY HAVE DONE THIS IN A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME.

IN THE PUBLIC MEETING I ATTENDED IN WIMBERLEY, WE HAD A GOOD TURNOUT. I HEARD A LOT OF GREAT COMMENTS. OBVIOUSLY, SOME DISAGREEMENTS, OF COURSE. THERE ALWAYS WILL BE.

BUT PEOPLE WORKED TOGETHER AND UNDERSTOOD THERE WAS A GOAL TO DO THAT. AND I THINK THAT IS SHOWN IN ALL OF THE MAPS PRESENTED. AND I APPRECIATE THAT.

IT'S NOT ALWAYS THAT NICE. AND I REALLY THINK THAT WE GOT ALONG WELL WITH EACH OTHER. AND I THINK ALL OF OUR CONSTITUENTS WERE PAYING ATTENTION TO THAT.

AND I THINK THEY'RE HAPPY FOR THAT AS WELL.

I WILL FOCUS ON MY ONE ISSUE OF GETTING INTO THE SENSES.IS THAT SOMETHING THAT CAN BE LOOKED AT? ESPECIALLY IN THAT BOUNDARY OF ONE INTO? I'LL LEAVE IT MORE UP TO MY COLLEAGUES FROM PRECINCT 1 INTO TO TRY TO PICK WHERE THAT WOULD BE, IF IT WAS GOING TO BE TWEAKED. BECAUSE I'M NOT AS FAMILIAR WITH THAT AREA. BUT IS THAT SOMETHING THAT

COULD BE DONE? >> YEAH.WE CAN BRING IT DOWN TO A BLOCK LEVEL WITHIN THE SENSES.

THEY HAVE THE TRACKS THAT ARE VERY -- WE DEVELOP THEM A LONG TIME AGO (INDISCERNIBLE). SO THE DATA IS THERE.

THE ABILITY TO GO TO DIFFERENT BLOCKS.

TAKE A LOOK AT 125 OR YOU TAKE 332.

THOSE ARE TWO UNUSUAL PRECINCTS.

THEY ARE LONG AND NARROW. 125 IS UP IN THE NORTHERN PART OF THE COUNTY, THE NORTHEASTERN PART.

IT'S WHERE PRECINCT 2 OFFICES ARE.

AND THE BULK OF THE POPULATION IS MOUNTAIN CITY.

THAT'S 80 PERCENT OF THE ENTIRE POPULATION OF THAT PRECINCT.

IT STRETCHES WAY UP ON INTO THE ARM OF THE CENTER OF THE COUNTY. SIMILARLY 332 COMES OUT OF SAN MARCUS AND GOES INTO WIMBERLEY. IT'S A LONG NARROW PENINSULA.

THE BULK OF THE POPULATION IS DOWN AT THE BASE OF 332 AGAINST SAN MARCOS. SO THOSE ARE DEFINITELY PRECINCTS THAT PROBABLY SHOULD BE REVIEWED AND MAY BE BROKEN UP. TO COMMISSIONER SMITH'S POINT ABOUT BREAKING UP?IT'S HEARTY HAPPENED.

333 WAS BROKEN INTO 333 AND 320.

AT 449 WAS BROKEN INTO 449 AND 450.THE COMPLICATION WAS IT DIDN'T EXIST WHEN THE CENSUS WAS TAKEN.

SO WHAT WE HAVE WITH OUR MAP SHOWING THAT IS THE POPULATION FROM THE SENSES (INDISCERNIBLE).

SO TO BREAK DOWN AND LOOK AT THE VOTING TABULATION DISTRICTS AS FAR AS DATA GOES, 450 HAS ZERO POPULATION.

AT 320 A ZERO POPULATION. BUT WE KNOW THAT IS NOT THE CASE. IT JUST WASN'T TABULATED THAT WAY. IF YOU BREAK IT BY CENSUS BLOCKS, IT'S EASY TO SPREAD ACROSS AND TABULATED THAT WAY.

>> I WOULD URGE CAUTION WITH DIVIDING IT INTO THAT BIO GRANULATED SIX BLOCK BECAUSE THEN YOU CREATE A REAL WORKLOAD FOR THE ELECTIONS PROCESS. BECAUSE THE WAY THEY HAVE DONE THESE MAPS, THEY ARE ALREADY IN LINE WITH ISP RUNNING ELECTIONS AND ALL THE OTHER TRYING IT OUT STOMACH TRIANGULATION'S.

AND BREAKING IT INTO CENSUS BLOCKS IS GOING TO CREATE A REAL OPPORTUNITY THAT IS GOING TO CREATE A LOT OF EXTRA WORK.

>> THANK YOU, JUDGE. YOU TOOK THE WORDS OUT OF MY MOUTH. YOU HAVE TO BEAR IN MIND WE ARE ON A VERY TIGHT DEADLINE. THIS MAP NEEDS TO BE APPROVED BY THE NOVEMBER 13 FILING. 13 DECEMBER.

AND IF YOU GO ADJUSTING PRECINCTS AND ADJUSTING BY CENSUS BLOCKS, THE DEPARTMENT HAS TO GET INVOLVED AND REDRAW THOSE PRECINCTS. IT WOULD BE VERY COMPLICATED TO DO IT IN THIS ELECTION. I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO REVIEW THAT GOING FORWARD EMBRY PREPARED TO DO IT WHEN THE NEXT ALLOCATION ALLOWS IN THE NEXT YEAR.UT AT THIS POINT IN TIME? HAVING DONE THIS BEFORE AND BEING INVOLVED IN THE SENSES, I WOULD DISSUADE YOU IF I COULD TO BREAK THESE UP AT THIS POINT TIME THIS LATE IN THE PROCESS.

YOU ARE LITERALLY 11:59.>> I AGREE 100 PERCENT.ANY OTHER

COMMENTS? >> BOX 334 -- CAN YOU TELL ME WHAT THE POPULATION IS THERE? CAN WE ZOOM IN ON THAT? AND MOVE THAT BOX? BRING THAT BOX IN?

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>> IT'S RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF THAT --

>> 334 IS ON THE LEFT-HAND SIDE.

>> KEEP GOING A LITTLE BIT MORE.

NO. I WANT THAT BOX.

>> GO TO YOUR RIGHT AND UP.

[CHATTER] >> RIGHT THERE.

>> COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ, 334 --

>> IT'S PRETTY LARGE. LET ME SEE HERE.

>> 334. THE TOTAL POPULATION IS 5153.

OF WHICH 5093 ARE OVER 18. >> OH, I SEE.

THAT IS ACTUALLY WHERE THE UNIVERSITY SITS?

>> YET. THE AVERAGE AGE IS 22.

>> OKAY. >> FOR YOUR APPLICATION, IT'S THE SECOND MOST MULTI MINORITY DISTRICT.IT HAS A HIGH CONCENTRATION OF THOSE WHO DON'T ASSOCIATE WITH A SINGLE

HERITAGE. >> OKAY.

I JUST SAW A FINGER -- I JUST THOUGHT IS THERE ANY WAY TO SQUARE THAT OFF A LITTLE BIT MORE?

BUT IT MIGHT BE DIFFICULT. >> COMMISSIONER (INDISCERNIBLE)

ANY COMMENTS? >> NO, I'M GOOD.

>> MR. MEYER, I'M JUST GOING TO SAY -- IT'S BEATING A DEAD HORSE BUT I'M IN A SAY WHAT IRD SET.

SUCH GOOD EFFORT AND GOOD FAITH HAS BEEN PUT FORTH.

I WOULD HATE TO LOSE ANY OF THAT UNIFYING PROGRESS INTO SOME TYPE OF BOBCAT SCRAPE INTO ONE.

THAT IS MY ONLY WORDS OF CAUTION.

>> ULTIMATELY IT IS YOUR DECISION TO MAKE ANY TWEAKS NECESSARY OR YOU FEEL APPROPRIATE.

WE ARE JUST GIVING YOU SLIGHTLY DIFFERING OPINIONS OF THE

DIRECTION TO GO. >> YOU BET.

IF THERE ARE NO OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS, DR. SWENOR IS ASKING TO COME BACK OUT.> I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR THE KNOWLEDGE AND EXPERIENCE YOU BROUGHT TO THIS PROCESS.

I APPRECIATE YOUR WORK. >> THANK WALT.

>> I WANT TO SAY ONE MORE THING.

WE DO HAVE A BOX THAT IS SPLIT ON OUR MAP.

AND WE DID THAT IN ORDER TO BOUNCE POPULATION.

BUT WE KNOW THAT BECAUSE THE VT D'S ARE SO IMPORTANT IN TERMS OF CONTAINING THOSE THREE TDS THAT WE TRIED TO DO AS LITTLE OF THAT AS POSSIBLE. SO I BELIEVE THERE IS ONLY ONE PTD TO BOUNCE A POPULATION. I ALSO WANT TO TAKE A MINUTE AS WE ARE WRAPPING THIS UP. I'D LIKE TO THANK MR. KENNEDY AND THE STAFF. JANICE AND THE OTHER STAFF MEMBERS THAT HAVE ASSISTED US IN THE PROCESS.

THEY HAVE BEEN ASKED FOR AN EARLY HELPFUL IN GETTING OUT INFORMATION AND KEEPING US IN THE LOOP.

SO I JUST WANT TO THANK THE STAFF FOR ALL OF THEIR EFFORTS TO HELP US.

[APPLAUSE] >> WHAT WE ARE GOING TO DO IS TAKE A 10 MINUTE RECESS. AND I WILL COME RIGHT BACK TO

AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 14, >> WE WILL REPOST THIS ITEM

[12. 158-162 Approve and confirm the appointment of Darrell Perez as Deputy Constable Bailiff in the Hays County Constable Precinct 1 Office, effective date September 21, 2021. INGALSBE/PETERSON]

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WITHOUT THE FORMALITIES NEXT WEEK.

JUST MAKE SURE THERE IS NOT A MIXUP WITH HOW THE COURT ACCEPTED -- YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE THINGS THE COURT NEEDS TO DO IS ACCEPT THE APPOINTMENT OF THESE DEPUTY CONSTABLE'S.

SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE IT'S DONE PERFECTLY.

WE WILL DO THAT NEXT WEEK. >> OKAY.

BUT WE ARE GOING TO DO ALL THE FORMALITIES NOW?

>> CORRECT. >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

YOU THE PODIUM. >> THANK YOU, MR. KENNEDY.

I APPRECIATE THAT CORRECTION. JUDGE, COMMISSIONERS, THANK YOU FOR TODAY. WHICH IS ANOTHER SPECIAL DAY FOR PRECINCT 1, HAYS COUNTY CONSTABLE.

AND FOR THE COUNTY, TOO. TODAY, WE HAVE TWO INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE GOING TO BE SWORN IN. ALONG WITH THEIR PARENTS, WHICH IS GOING TO BE LEIA BOX -- WE HAVE HER DAD AND HER MOTHER.

AND HER TWO CHILDREN, ALSO, THAT ARE HERE TODAY.

ALSO, WE HAVE TRAVIS BERTRAM, WHO IS GOING TO BE SWORN IN TODAY ALSO. HE IS GOING TO BE OUR BAILIFF FOR THE COUNTY COURT AT LAW. FOR OUR THREE JUDGES.

AND LEIA IS GOING TO BE BECOMING ONE OF OUR RESERVE OFFICERS. AS THE COUNTY GOES ON WITH MORE IN LAW ENFORCEMENT TO PROTECT OUR CITIZENS HERE AND HAYES -- BOY, I SURE WELCOME THEM. MORE OFFICERS IN BLUE.

ON YOURSELF! IT'S A SHORT MINUTE, DON'T WORRY!

[LAUGHTER] >> THERE ARE TIMES THAT WE FEEL LIKE CRYING IN YOUR TOO! [LAUGHTER] I KNOW WHERE YOU ARE COMING

FROM! >> THAT'S A GOOD GRANDPA RIGHT THERE! THANK YOU, VERY MUCH, JUDGE AND COMMISSIONERS.LEIA BOGGS IS FROM TEXAS.

SHE GRADUATED FROM CAPITOL AREA GOVERNMENT IN 2020.

SHE BEGAN HER LAW ENFORCEMENT CAREER (INDISCERNIBLE).

SHE HAS 928 HOURS OF TEXAS COMMISSION LAW ENFORCEMENT TRAINING. LICENSED AND CERTIFIED.

WE WELCOME HER. WELCOME HER AND WE WELCOME HER FAMILY.

[APPLAUSE] WE HAVE TRAVIS BERTRAM.

HE'S NOT A STRANGER TO LAW ENFORCEMENT.

TRAVIS IS FROM AUSTIN, TEXAS. HE LIVES IN KYLE TEXAS.

HE IS MARRIED WITH TWO CHILDREN.

A BOY AND A GIRL. THEY LOVE TO TRAVEL.

ILY. HE GRADUATED FROM CAPITOL AREA COUNCIL OF GOVERNMENT. HE BEGINS HIS LAW ENFORCEMENT CAREER WITH TRAVIS COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE.HAT WAS WITH GREG HAMILTON -- 13 YEARS OF LAW ENFORCEMENT.

TRAVIS HAS OVER 2750 HOURS OF COMMISSION LAW ENFORCEMENT TRAINING. HE IS LICENSED AND CERTIFIED.

HE IS A BASIC JAILER. HE IS A PEACE OFFICER, ADVANCED PEACE OFFICER. ALSO MOTORCYCLE OFFICER CERTIFIED. WE WELCOME YOU, TRAVIS.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH!

[APPLAUSE] >> CONSTABLE, I JUST WANT TO DOUBLE CHECK. WOULD YOU HAVE INTEREST IN SOMETHING TO SAY AT THE PODIUM? IT'S UP TO YOU.OKAY!

>> SO JUDGE, IF WE COULD GET COMMISSIONER INGALSBE TO PRESENT THE BADGE. AND COMMISSIONER CRUMBLY.

>> ARE YOU ASKING FOR MOTORCADE NEXT YEAR? I'M READING BETWEEN THE LINES HERE! [LAUGHTER]

[02:00:54]

>> GET WITH ME AFTER COURT AND I WILL SEND YOU THAT PICTURE.

YOU HAVE TO FRAME THAT THING! [LAUGHTER]

[CHATTER] >> CONSTABLE, YOU'VE GOT THREE DEPUTIES FOR THE PRICE OF TWO!

[LAUGHTER] >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> HEY MIKE -- BETWEEN YOU AND THE SHERIFF, I'M SURE WE COULD

[39. 476-486 Discussion and possible action to authorize the County Judge to execute an Interlocal Agreement for Access to Drill and Complete a Groundwater Monitor Well and to Conduct Groundwater Monitoring Between Hays County, Texas and Barton Springs/Edwards Aquifer Conservation District. SHELL/T.CRUMLEY]

FIND HIM A STICKER BADGE TOO.

[LAUGHTER] >> BEAUTIFULLY DONE! THANK YOU. DOCTOR CUTLER, WILL YOU PLEASE

OPEN AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 39? >> 39 DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO AUTHORIZE THE COUNTY JUDGE TO EXECUTE AND AWFUL AGREEMENT FOR ACCESS TO DRILL AND COMPLETE A GROUNDWATER MONITOR WELL AND TO CONDUCT GROUNDWATER MONITORING BETWEEN HAYS COUNTY TEXAS AND BARTON SPRINGS EDMONDS AQUIFER

CONSERVATION DISTRICT. >> MOTION.

>> SECOND. >> IS BRIAN HERE?

>> YES. IF YOU WILL PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND TITLE FOR THE VIEWING PUBLIC?

>> MY NAME IS BRIAN SMITH. I'M THE PRINCIPAL HYDROGEOLOGIST WITH THE BARTON SPRINGS CONSERVATION (INDISCERNIBLE). GOOD MORNING.

I'M HERE TO BRIEFLY THANK THE COMMISSIONERS COURT FOR ALL THE SUPPORT THAT THE COURT HAS DONE FOR WATER SUPPLIES.

AS AN EMPLOYEE OF THE BARTON SPRINGS CONSERVATION DISTRICT, WE HAVE BEEN VERY DEPENDENT ON OTHER PARTNERS TO WORK WITH US.

TO UNDERSTAND THESE RESOURCES. HOW TO PROTECT THEM AND HOW TO MAINTAIN AND INCREASE WATER SUPPLIES FOR THE LARGE NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT ARE HERE AND ARE MOVING HERE.

I WANTED TO SAY I JUST CAME FROM A NATIONAL CONFERENCE THAT IS BEING HELD HERE IN SAN MARCOS.OT MANY PEOPLE KNOW ABOUT IT. IT'S KIND OF SMALL.

THEY MIGHT HAVE 150 PEOPLE. BUT IT'S A SYMPOSIUM THAT IS HELD HERE. SO PEOPLE AROUND THE COUNTRY WHO ARE STUDYING CAVES. AND THEY MAKE UP A LARGE PART OF HAYES AND A GOOD BIT OF THE WATER SUPPLY FOR HAYES.

SO THIS WILL HELP US MOVE FORWARD WITH OUR STUDIES AND TO BETTER UNDERSTAND (INDISCERNIBLE).

TO MENTION SOME OF THE THINGS WE HAVE DONE IN THE PAST HAVE BEEN DOING MONITORING WELLS. WITH UNDYED TRACING TO UNDERSTAND THE UNDERGROUND SYSTEM OF WATER.

WE ARE CURRENTLY WORKING ON A GROUNDWATER MODEL WITH FUNDING FROM HAYS COUNTY. SO WE REALLY APPRECIATE ALL THAT YOU HAVE DONE AND LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH YOU FURTHER. ANY QUESTIONS I WOULD BE GLAD TO ANSWER THEM. OTHERWISE I WILL LET YOU GET

BACK TO BUSINESS. >> WE HAVE A GREAT PARTNERSHIP WITH THEM AND WE HAVE BEEN WORKING FOR YEARS ON THE MONITORING PROGRAM. THIS IS ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF WORKING TOGETHER. IT'S AN IMPORTANT TOPIC.

THANK YOU. >> ONE THING -- I SINCERELY PAPPRECIATE AND IT'S NOT DIRECTLY RELATED TO THIS, BUT THE WORKING RELATIONSHIP THAT YOU HAVE.

I KNOW YOU USE THE COUNTY AS A BRIDGE.

WE REALLY DO APPRECIATE THAT RELATIONSHIP THAT WE HAVE.

THANK YOU. >> WE WORK CLOSELY WITH THEM ON THESE STUDIES. AND THEY ARE PART OF THESE

STUDIES. >> THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU, SIR. IF THERE ARE NO OTHER COMMENTS,

[02:05:01]

PLEASE CALL THE ROLEROLL

[Items 27 - 29]

>> 27 DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION TO AUTHORIZE THE COUNTY JUDGE TO EXECUTE SUPPLEMENTAL NUMBER 10 TO THE PROFESSIONAL SERVICES AGREEMENT BETWEEN HAYS AND HN TB CORPORATION FOR THE HAYES CAN TEXT.PARTNERSHIP PROGRAM GENERAL ENGINEERING CONSULTANT. PROGRAM MANAGEMENT SERVICES AND HAYES, INCREASING THE COMPENSATION CAP BY $336,800 FROM 7,205,049 AND $0.30 TO 7 MILLION, $542,291.30.

AND EXTENDING THE TERMINATION DATE OF THE CONTRACT TO SEPTEMBER 30, 2022. 28.

DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO AUTHORIZE THE COUNTY JUDGE TO EXECUTE SUPPLEMENTAL AGREEMENT NUMBER 8 TO THE PROFESSIONAL SERVICES AGREEMENT BETWEEN HAYS COUNTY AND HN TB CORPORATION FOR THE PAST REFINANCE PROGRAM MANAGEMENT EFFORT IN HASTE. INCREASING THE COMPENSATION CAP BY $62,022 FROM $7,715,500 TO $7,777,520.

AND EXTENDING THE TERMINATION DATE OF THE CONTRACT TO SEPTEMBER 30, 2022. 29: DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO AUTHORIZE THE COUNTY JUDGE TO EXECUTE A PROFESSIONAL SERVICES AGREEMENT TIME AND MATERIALS CONTRACT BETWEEN HAYS COUNTY AND HN TB CORPORATION FOR FISCAL YEAR WORTH WORK AUTHORIZATION AND TOTAL AMOUNT OF $2,635,000 TO CONTINUE PROVIDING GENERAL ENGINEERING CONSULTANT PROGRAM MANAGEMENT

SERVICES FOR THE HAYS COUNTY, 2016 ROAD BOND PROJECTS.>> SO

MOVED. >> THANK YOU.

COMMISSIONER JONES, THAT IS A TALL --

>> R-3 BIGGEST PROJECTS. WE HAVE THE PASS-THROUGH PROJECT AND OUR PARTNERSHIP -- THE PARTNERSHIPS THAT WE HAVE WITH THE STATE OF TEXAS. THIS IS A CONTINUATION OF THE WORK THEY HAVE BEEN DOING -- BEFORE I WAS HERE.

SO THAT'S WHERE WE ARE AT. I DON'T KNOW IF MARK OR JERRY

HAS ANYTHING TO ADD? >> YES, COMMISSIONER.

ON ITEMS 27 AND 28, WE WOULD ASK THAT YOU INCLUDE IN YOUR MOTION A DISCRETIONARY EXEMPTION PROFESSIONAL SERVICES. NOT NEEDED FOR 29.

>> OKAY. SO WE HAVE THAT AMENDMENT AND SECONDED. COMMISSIONER SMITH?

>> A CLARIFICATION. WE VOTED ON THESE EARLIER, BUT NOT THE AMOUNTS? THESE ARE NEGOTIATED CONTRACTS, CORRECT? OR IS THAT INCORRECTLY ASK

WHAT'S THE QUESTION AGAIN? >> WE VOTED ON THOSE EXTENSIONS EARLIER. THIS IS JUST BRINGING BACK THE

NEGOTIATED CONTRACTS, CORRECT? >> YES.

AND YOU MADE SELECTION ON 29 BUT IT WAS TAKEN A BIT TO BRING

THE CONTRACT BACK. >> THANK YOU.

>> PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

[19. 286 Call for a Public Hearing at the regular session of Commissioners Court on November 9, 2021 starting at 9 a.m., related to the redistricting of justice of the peace (and constable) and commissioners precincts within Hays County, Texas. BECERRA]

>> IF WE WILL OPEN -- I JUST WANTED TO DOUBLE CHECK.

CALL FOR A PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE REDISTRICTING OF THE GPS AND COMMISSIONERS PRECINCTS? I SHOULD OPEN THAT EVEN THOUGH WE'VE DONE IT. JUST TO SAY WE CHECK THE BOX.

DON'T YOU AGREE, MR. KENNEDY? NUMBER 19.>> DID THAT ITEM

GET CAUGHT ALREADY? >> WHAT WE DID WAS THE PRESENTATIONS REALLY. WHAT WE DID.

>> FOR THE RECORD, THAT HAS ALSO BEEN PUBLISHED IN THE

PAPER AS REQUIRED BY LAW. >> SO I AM GOING TO GO THERE.

SO PLEASE OPEN 19 JUST FOR THE HOUSEKEEPING.

E HAVE ALREADY DONE. >> 19 CALL FOR A PUBLIC HEARING

[02:10:01]

AT THE REGULAR SESSION OF COMMISSIONERS COURT ON NOVEMBER

9, 2021, STARTING AT 9 AM. >> SO MOVED.

>> SECOND. >> AWARE CALLING OF THE PUBLIC HEARING NOVEMBER 9, 2021. I WON'T FINISH BUT THAT'S OKAY.

YOU GET THE IDEA. (LAUGHING).

>> YOU CAN'T TAKE A BREATH! >> BUT I DO HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. PLEASE CALL A ROLL.

[36. 451 Discussion and possible action to approve changes to the FY 2021 healthcare plan as recommended by the Insurance Committee. INGALSBE/SHELL/MILLER]

COMMISSIONER INGALSBE. PLEASE OPEN ITEM NUMBER 36.

>> 36 DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO APPROVE -- (INDISCERNIBLE) [LAUGHTER] DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO APPROVE CHANGES TO THE FY 2021 HEALTHCARE PLAN AS RECOMMENDED BY THE INSURANCE

COMPANY. >> A MOVE.

>> SECOND. >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. WE HAVE FOLKS HERE IN CASE ANYONE HAS QUESTIONS, COMMENTS OR CONCERNS.

IF YOU APPROACH THE PODIUM AND STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE VIEWING

PUBLIC? >> THANK YOU, JUDGE, COURT.

I'M SHARON MILLER, HAYES CAN HR DIRECTOR.

IT IS TIME FOR US TO ADDRESS OUR UNITED HEALTHCARE INSURANCE COVERAGE. SO WE HAVE UTILIZE UNITED HEALTHCARE IN THE PAST THREE YEARS, I BELIEVE.

FOR OUR EMPLOYEE AND FAMILY MEMBERS HEALTH INSURANCE.

AND WE HAVE RECEIVED WHAT WE BELIEVE WE BEING THE INSURANCE COMMITTEE AND SCAR YARBOROUGH, WHO WE UTILIZE FOR CONSULTATION FOR THIS BUSINESS. A GOOD SOLID RENEWAL FROM UNITED HEALTHCARE. AND OBVIOUSLY, OFTENTIMES THESE RENEWALS COME WITH INCREASES IN WHICH THE COUNTY HAS ABSORBED OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS. SO JUST A COUPLE OF HIGHLIGHTS ABOUT THE RENEWAL. THERE AREN'T A LOT OF BRIGHT, SHINY LIGHTS SPRINGING AT US WITH INCREASES.

THE RENEWAL DOES COME TO US WITH ABOUT A TWO PERCENT OR MAYBE A LITTLE LESS THAN TWO PERCENT OVERALL FIXED COST.

SO BECAUSE OUR PLAN IS SELF-FUNDED, OUR CLAIMS COST THE COUNTY USES OUR FUND BOUTS IN THE HEALTH INSURANCE ACCOUNT TO PAY FOR ANY CLAIMS THAT ARE UTILIZED BY OUR MEMBERS.

SO FIXED COST IS WHERE WE GET SOME ADJUSTMENTS.

SO THAT IS COMING TO US WITH AN ALMOST 2 PERCENT INCREASE.

THE OTHER THING TO ADDRESS IN OUR COMMITTEE -- WE MET A WEEK OR SO AGO WITHOUT THIS IS THE PREMIUMS THAT WE PAY AS EMPLOYEES FOR THE COVERAGE. WE HAVE NOT ADDRESSED OR ADJUSTED THOSE PREMIUMS. THEY COME OUT OF OUR PAYCHECKS -- SINCE 2016. WE FEEL THE COMMITTEE AFFIRMED THE CONCEPT THAT WE WOULD MAKE SOME MOVEMENT IN THOSE PREMIUMS. IT'S NOT AN EASY THING TO DO -- TO START ADJUSTING HOW MUCH EMPLOYEES ARE PAYING FOR COVERAGE. WE DON'T START DOING SOMETHING, THE COUNTY IS ABSORBING AND HAS CONTINUED TO ABSORB FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS. ADMINISTRATIVE FEES AND INCREASES. IN THE CLAIMS-- THE COST OF HEALTHCARE IS INCREASING. AND THAT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE THAT IS GOING TO CHANGE. AND THE COUNTY HAS ABSORBED THOSE INCREASES OVER MANY YEARS.

SO OUR PROPOSAL IS TO INCREASE -- YOU HAVE THREE INSURANCE PLANS RIGHT NOW THAT EMPLOYEES CAN CHOOSE TO PARTICIPATE IN.

AND TO INCREASE IN JUST TWO OF THOSE PLANS THE PREMIUMS. WHEN WE TOOK A SHOT AT IT, IT'S JUST A 10 PERCENT INCREASE FOR EVERY LEVEL OF COVERAGE. SO IF YOUR COVERAGE IS FOR EMPLOYEE ONLY OR EMPLOYEE FAMILY, WHICH MEANS SPOUSE AND CHILDREN, WHICH IS OBVIOUSLY THE LARGEST PRICE FOR COVERAGE, THE INCREASE WOULD BE 10 PERCENT.

PLAN THREE IS OUR HIGH DEDUCTIBLE HEALTH SIGHTINGS PLAN. IT'S THE PLAN WHERE YOU PAY OUT OF YOUR POCKET IF YOU ARE ENROLLED IN THAT PLAN.

CONTRACTED RATES FOR MEDICAL SERVICES UNTIL YOU HIT YOUR DEDUCTIBLE AMOUNT. AND THEN, THE PLAN PAYS (INDISCERNIBLE) PERCENT. IT'S ALSO A PLAN WITH THE

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COUNTY CONTRIBUTES TO YOUR HEALTH SAVINGS ACCOUNT APPROXIMATELY $1000 A YEAR. SO WE TALKED ABOUT THAT PLAN IN OUR COMMITTEE AND DECIDED THAT WE WOULD NOT MAKE ANY ADJUSTMENTS THROUGH PREMIUMS -- OR RECOMMEND ADJUSTMENTS IN PREMIUMS OR COUNTIES CONTRIBUTION.

IT'S STILL A VERY VALID PLAN. E HAVE MORE AND MORE PEOPLE MOVING TO IT. ESPECIALLY UTILIZERS WHO KNOW WHAT THEIR HEALTHCARE NEEDS ARE GOING TO BE.

ANY QUESTIONS? >> ALL RIGHT.

ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? >> I DON'T BELIEVE SO, JUDGE.

AND AS SHERRY STATED, IT'S DIFFICULT WHEN WE ARE LOOKING AT ANY KIND OF INCREASES. THAT ARE PASSED DOWN TO OUR EMPLOYEES. HOWEVER, I JUST FEEL IT'S BEEN A WHILE. AND YOU KNOW, THIS IS MODEST.

IT'S NOT A VERY SUBSTANTIAL INCREASE.

ALTHOUGH I SAY THAT, BUT I KNOW THAT, YOU KNOW, EVERY LITTLE BIT HELPS. BOTH WAYS.

WITH OUR EMPLOYEES AND THE COVERAGE THAT WE PROVIDE.

I WAS JUST GOING TO ASK SHERRY, AS AN EXAMPLE, AND PLAN ONE CURRENTLY, THE EMPLOYEE PAYS $47 OR SO? SO A 10 PERCENT INCREASE WOULD BE $4.70?

>> CORRECT. PLAN ONE, EMPLOYEE ONLY.E DO HAVE A LARGE NUMBER OF EMPLOYEES ENROLLED AND PLAN ONE. RIGHT NOW, THEIR MONTHLY PREMIUM IS $47.22. THAT WILL GO TO $51.94.

SO FOUR OUS INCREASE WILL BE IN PLAN ONE.

THEY ARE PAYING $687.67 A MONTH.

THAT WILL INCREASE TO $755.34. YOU STILL CANNOT BUY INSURANCE AT THIS LEVEL OF COVERAGE FOR THAT GROUP OF PEOPLE FOR THAT PRICE AWAY FROM AN EMPLOYER PLAN.

>> COMMISSIONERS, ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS?

>> THANK YOU, MISS MILLER. >> THANK YOU.

>> THERE ARE NO MORE QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS, PLEASE CALL ROLL.

[40. 487-518 Discussion and possible action to authorize the County Judge to execute a Statement of Work and Participating Addendum with 8 x 8, Inc. utilizing the National Association of State Procurement Officials (NASPO) ValuePoint Master Agreement related to a new Countywide Phone/Communications System. BECERRA/MCGILL]

>> DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION TO AUTHORIZE THE COUNTY JUDGE TO EXECUTE A STATEMENT OF WORK AND PARTICIPATING ADDENDUM WITH EIGHT BY EIGHT INC., UTILIZING THE NATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF PROCUREMENT OFFICIALS VALUE POINT MASTER AGREEMENT RELATED TO A NEW COUNTYWIDE PHONE COMMUNICATIONS

SYSTEM. >> ARE MOVED.

>> SECOND. >> I KNOW MR. MCGILL HAS DONE A WONDERFUL JOB KEEPING US UPDATED WITH THE PHONE SYSTEMS. IT HAS BEEN A LONG PROCESS. AND SITTING ON THE SIDELINES FOR YEARS NOW, AND THE TIME HAS FINALLY COME!

>> JEFF MCGILL, INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY DIRECTOR.

WE HAVE ACTUALLY HAD THIS ON OUR RADAR FOR A COUPLE YEARS NOW. SO WE RODE THE BUDGETED MONEY TWICE NOW, I THINK. WE ARE FINALLY GETTING AROUND TO PRESENTING THIS TO THE COURT.

BUT JUST A QUICK LITTLE HISTORY.

THE PHONE SYSTEM THAT WE HAVE NOW, WE DEPLOYED IN 2010.

BUT IT WAS UNDER COMPLETELY DIFFERENT COUNTY CONFIGURATIONS. WE DIDN'T HAVE THE GOVERNMENT CENTER. A LOT OF OUR OFFICES WERE IN THE COURTHOUSE. SOME OF OUR PRECINCT OFFICES WERE IN DIFFERENT LOCATIONS. WE WERE SPLIT UP.

SO WHEN WE COLLAPSED THOSE OFFICES AND REPOSITIONED, WE STILL KEPT THE SIMPLE SYSTEM. JUST HAD TO DO SOME -- IT GYMNASTICS TO GET THEM ALL WORKING TOGETHER.

IT'S WORKED WELL FOR US. WE ARE GOING ON ALMOST 12 YEARS NOW. BUT WE NOTICED, ESPECIALLY DURING COVID, AND SOME OF THE WEATHER EVENTS THAT WE'VE HAD, WE REALLY SAW THE WEAKNESS OF OUR EXISTING SYSTEM.

WE ARE READY KNEW IT WAS ON THE SCHEDULE TO BE REPLACED, BUT IT REALLY CHANGED OUR SCOPE OF WHAT WE WERE LOOKING AT IN A UNIFIED COMMUNICATIONS SYSTEM. BECAUSE WE WERE ALL FORCED TO TRY TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO GET PEOPLE WORKING REMOTELY.

WE HAD TO FIND A WAY TO CREATE REMOTE WORKFORCES.

AND BECAUSE WE WERE GETTING SOME OF THE COVID HOTLINES AND SOME OF THE VACCINE HOTLINES, WE REACH THE CAPACITY OF OUR PHONE SYSTEM REALLY QUICK. SO THAT WAS BUILT INTO OUR DECISION-MAKING PROCESS.HOW TO KEEP PEOPLE COMMUNICATING

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EASILY, NO MATTER WHERE THEY ARE AT.

SO HAVING A UNIFIED SYSTEM LIKE THIS GIVES US THE ABILITY TO HAVE THE TRADITIONAL PHONE. WHICH THAT IS WHAT THIS INCLUDES. THE REPLACEMENT OF ALL THE TRADITIONAL PHONES AT THE DESK. BUT AS WELL, ABLE TO UTILIZE THE COMPUTERS, LAPTOPS, CELL PHONES TO TIE INTO THE SYSTEM.

SO YOU CAN COMMUNICATE NO MATTER WHERE YOU ARE AT WITH YOUR DESK PHONE AND THE SAME PHONE NUMBER.

SO IT'S COMPLETELY A GAME CHANGER FOR BEING ABLE TO DEPLOY QUICKLY AND TO HAVE PEOPLE DOING BUSINESS WITH THE PHONE SYSTEM. FOR OFFICES LIKE OURS, YOU HAVE ONE NUMBER TO REACH ME NO MATTER WHERE I AM AT.HEN WE WERE TESTING THIS AND SOMEBODY CALLED MY NUMBER, MY CELL PHONE RANG, MY DESK PHONE RANG AND MY COMPUTER RANG SIMULTANEOUSLY.

AND I COULD ANSWER IT ON EITHER DEVICE.

OR I COULD START THE CONVERSATION ON MY PHONE AND IMMEDIATELY TRANSFERRED TO MY CELL PHONE.

SO IT GIVES US THE ABILITY TO BE MUCH MORE FLEXIBLE ON THE WAY PEOPLE WORK. ALSO, IT INCORPORATES A REALLY ROBUST VIDEOCONFERENCING PSOLUTION.

WE ARE ALL FAMILIAR WITH ZOOM AND TEAMS. AND THEY CONTINUE TO BE UTILIZED BUT IT HAS A REALLY ROBUST VIDEOCONFERENCE PORTION. T'S COMPATIBLE ON ANY DEVICE. YOU DON'T HAVE TO HAVE AN APP INSTALLED. YOU DON'T HAVE TO SEND AN INVITE. THEY CAN DO IT FROM THE BROWSER. IT HAS 500 PARTICIPANTS PER CONFERENCE CALL. IT CAN BE A PUBLIC MEETING OR PRIVATE MEETING AS WELL.IT HAS MESSAGING AND TEXT MESSAGING. BUILT INTO ONE PLATFORM.

>> COMMISSIONERS, ANY QUESTIONS?

>> WHEN WITH THE ROLLOUT OCCUR IF WE ADOPTED THIS TODAY? ASK MOST OF IT WILL BE ON AVAILABILITY.

WE ARE CHECKING THE AVAILABILITY ON GETTING THE PHYSICAL PHONES. SO WE ARE LOOKING AT 2 TO 3 MONTHS. WE HAVE TO PORT ALL THE NUMBERS FROM OUR EXISTING PHONE PROVIDERS.

GET THOSE NUMBERS PORTED OVER. THAT USUALLY TAKES ABOUT 90 DAYS TO GET THOSE NUMBERS PORTED.

WE'LL DO IT AS SEAMLESS AS WE CAN.

SO THERE WILL BE A SHORT AMOUNT OF TIME WHERE PEOPLE HAVE TWO PHONES ON THEIR DESK (LAUGHING) WITH THE OLD ONE AND THE NEW

ONE. >> ONE OTHER QUESTION THAT I HAD. I KNOW THAT WE FOUND THIS DURING SEVERAL INSTANCES OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS, WHERE I WOULD GET A PHONE CALL FROM SOMEBODY AND THEY WOULD SAY LOOK, I'VE BEEN CALLING THE GOVERNMENT CENTER FOR THE LAST TWO DAYS AND NOBODY WILL ANSWER.

I CAN'T LEAVE A MESSAGE. AND AT TIMES, WE WOULD GO SEVERAL HOURS WITHOUT ANYBODY KNOWING A GIVEN LOCATION WAS NOT RECEIVING PHONE SERVICE. WITH THIS, WILL THAT CIRCUMVENT THAT? WE AT LEAST GET IT ON THE CELL PHONE AND ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF?

>> IT WILL. THE PROBLEM IN THE PAST IS THE WAY OUR PHONE SYSTEM HAS BEEN PIECEMEAL TO? SO IN 2010, WE DIDN'T HAVE THE TECHNOLOGY INFRASTRUCTURE IN PLACE.ESPECIALLY IN THE PRECINCT OFFICES.

SO WE HAD TO RELY ON VERIZON, FRONTIER OR SPECTRUM TO TIE INTO OUR PHONE SYSTEM. SO A LOT OF THAT ROUTING BETWEEN MULTIPLE PROVIDERS IS WHERE THE DROP OFF WAS.

I KNOW A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T REALIZE HOW THE INTERCONNECTIVITY -- SINCE WE HAVE HAD SO MANY DIFFERENT MOVEMENTS IN BUILDINGS. FOR INSTANCE, THE ELECTION OFFICE IS IN THE GOVERNMENT CENTER BUT THEY ARE STILL BEING FED FROM BROADWAY AT THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT.

THAT IS WHERE THE CALLS ARE COMING THROUGH.

THE AUDITOR'S OFFICE AND TREASURER'S OFFICE IS IN THE GOVERNMENT CENTER. THEY WERE ORIGINALLY IN THE COURTHOUSE ANNEX AND WE HAD A SEPARATE PHONE SYSTEM.

BUT THERE IS A LOT OF ROUTING BETWEEN PHONES THAT IS BEEN A THORN IN HER SIDE. WHEN ONE OF THEM DROPS OFF, WE HAVE TO START BACKTRACKING TO FIND OUT WHICH PROVIDER THE ISSUE WAS ON. IS ON FRONTIER? IS IT ON VERIZON? BUT THIS PULLS IT ALL TOGETHER AND PUTS IT UNDER ONE SOURCE. SO EVEN IF WE LOSE COMPLETE LOCAL -- IF THERE IS A WEATHER EVENT, ALL OF OUR FIBERS WIPED OUT -- SINCE IT IS CLOUD-BASED, YOU CAN STILL GET YOUR PHONE CALLS TO YOUR CELL PHONE. IF SOMEONE CALLS YOUR DESK PHONE, IT WILL COME TO YOUR CELL PHONE OR YOUR LAPTOP.

IF THERE IS NO INTERNET, YOU CAN GO TO YOUR HOUSE OR STARBUCKS AND LOG INTO YOUR LAPTOP AND RECEIVE YOUR PHONE

CALLS. >> COMMISSIONERS, ANY QUESTIONS

OR COMMENTS? >> NO, I JUST APPRECIATE ALL

THE WORK THAT HAS GONE INTO IT. >> WOULD PUT A LOT OF TIME AND EFFORT INTO MAKING SURE -- NOT THAT ANYTHING GOOD HAS COME OUT OF THE PANDEMIC, BUT IT REALLY HAS CHANGED THE WAY PEOPLE DO BUSINESS. I'VE NEVER BEEN A VIDEOCONFERENCING GUY. I LIKE FACE-TO-FACE MEETINGS.

BUT EVERYONE HAS BEEN FORCED INTO THAT WHETHER THEY LIKE IT OR NOT. BUT I THINK YOU CAN GET A LOT MORE PARTICIPATION IN MEETINGS DOING IT THAT WAY.

SO I DON'T THINK WE WILL EVER GO BACK TO PRE-PANDEMIC AS FAR AS THE WAY WE COMMUNICATE. SO I THINK THE MORE TOOLS WE

[02:25:01]

HAVE, WE CAN DO BETTER. >> THIS SYSTEM IS MAGNIFICENT.

IT IS EVERYTHING THAT HE HAS DESCRIBED.

MR. MCGILL, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR ALL THE INFORMATION.

>> JUST ONE QUESTION: WHEN WE REPLACE THOSE FUNDS, CAN WE UPDATE THE LIST TO WHERE THE PHONES ARE AND WHO THEY ARE ASSIGNED TO? ESPECIALY BY CITY NUMBER? WHENEVER YOU HAVE A PHONE THAT IS STYLING THROUGH THE INTERNET,YOU NEED TO SPECIFY WHERE THAT PHONE IS? I'M ASSUMING THAT WILL BE THE SAME WITH THESE PHONES?

>> THAT WILL BE A PREREQUISITE. WE WILL HAVE TO GET THAT STRAIGHTENED OUT BEFORE WE DEPLOY .

>> IT WAS A CHALLENGE -- KNOWING WHERE THE PHONE IS IN

CASE YOU CALL 911 FROM IT. >> THAT'S ONE OF THE EXERCISES THAT WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO DO FIRST.

BECAUSE BESIDES THEY COME WITH COMPUTER APPS AND THE SALE APPS. YOU CAN USE YOUR COMPUTER TO PULL UP COUNTYWIDE LOCAL CONTACT LISTS WITH EXTENSIONS.

AND IT AUTO DIALS YOUR PHONE DIRECTL FROM YOUR COMPUTER.

YOU CAN DO IT FROM THE PHONE. BUT SINCE EVERYTHING IS INTEGRATED, WE HAVE TO GET ALL THE EXTENSION NUMBERS, LOCATIONS AND ALL OF HAT. WE HAVE TO DO THAT FIRST.

>> PERFECT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR.

MCGILL. >> WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN TO THE CURRENT PHONE SYSTEM THAT WE HAVE? ALL OF THOSE PHONES? WILL THEY JUST GO UP FOR

AUCTION? >> YES.ELL THEM AND GET WHAT

WE CANNOT OF THEM! >> THERE IS REALLY NOT ANYTHING FROM THE EXISTING PHONE SYSTEM THAT WE CAN SALVAGE.

IT'S PRETTY MUCH A ONE TRICK PONY.

IT'S JUST A PHONE SYSTEM. SO WE CAN'T UTILIZE ANY OF THE HARDWARE FOR THAT. ONE OF THE THINGS WE WERE ABLE TO DO, AND I KNOW WE HAVE ANOTHER AGENDA ITEM FOR OUR PROJECT CONTRACT, IS BECAUSE OF THE WAY OUR EXISTING PHONE SYSTEM IS BUILT, WE HAVE A LOT OF ANALOG LOGS AND A LOT OF PHONE LOGS THAT IS REQUIRED FOR THAT SYSTEM.

SO WE WERE ABLE TO REDO OUR CONTRACTS.

AND WHEN WE POINT THE NUMBERS ESPECIALLY THE PRECINCT OFFICES, WE CAN MORE THAN OFFSET THE COST OF THE PHONE SYSTEMS. SO OUR ACTUAL MONTHLY RECURRING IS GOING TO BE LESS THAN WHAT WE ARE PAYING NOW.

AND KEEP OUR PRICES BELOW WHAT WE ARE PAYING NOW.

WE ARE GRATEFUL. WE JUST HAVE THE INITIAL UPFRONT COST OF RUNNING ALL THE HANDSETS IN THE BACK AND HARDWARE. BUT IT WAS ALMOST HALF OF WHAT WE BUDGETED ORIGINALLY, TWO YEARS AGO.

SO OUT OF THE 280,000 WE ORIGINALLY BUDGETED, WE WILL BE USING 140 -- 148? SO WE WERE ABLE TO BUY IN AT A LESS PRICE AND THE MONTHLY RECURRING CHARGE IS GOING TO BE

LESS THAN IT IS NOW. >> EFFICIENCY ALL THE WAY AROUND. PLEASE CALL ROLL.

[41. 519-522 Discussion and possible action to authorize the County Judge to execute a renewal Service Order with Grande Communications related to the Countywide Fiber contract. BECERRA/MCGILL]

>> DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO AUTHORIZE THE COUNTY JUDGE TO EXECUTE A RENEWAL SERVICE ORDER WITH GRANDE COMMUNICATIONS RELATED TO THE COUNTYWIDE FIBER CONTRACT.

>> SO MOVED. >> SECOND.

>> AS WE HEARD, HE HAS BEEN WORKING ON CLEANING UP THE

CONNECTIONS. >> I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY (INDISCERNIBLE) ARE GRANDE CONTRACT AND REMOVING THE SERVICES THAT WE DON'T NEED, WE CAN RECOUP $8476.70 PER MONTH.

AND THEN, THE PHONE LINES THAT WE ARE PORTING OVER, WE HAVE ALREADY IDENTIFIED $4700 A MONTH.

SO WE CAN ALREADY RECOUP $13,176 OF MONTHLY RECURRING CHARGES. AND THAT IS MORE THAN WHAT THE

NEW PHONE SYSTEM IS COUNTYWIDE. >> GOOD WORK!

>> I LOVE IT! THAT IS SUCH MUSIC TO MY EARS! I HOPE THOSE INDIVIDUALS VALUE EVERY DOLLAR THAT MOVES THROUGH THIS COUNTY THAT EFFORT. THAT'S MANY THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS MONTH AFTER MONTH AFTER MONTH THANKS TO YOU.

PLEASE CALL ROLL.

[33. 441-444 PLN-1736-PC; Hold a Public Hearing with possible action to approve the final plat of the Replat of Lots 13 and 14, Out of the Resubdivision of Lots 45 through 53 and Lot 58, Rolling Oaks Subdivision, Section 3. SHELL/MACHACEK]

[02:30:03]

ON ME, NUMBER 33. >> 33 PL ? 1736 DASH PC.

HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING WITH POSSIBLE ACTION TO APPROVE THE FINAL PLAT OF THE RE-PLAT OF LOTS 13 AND 14 OUT OF THE RESUBDIVISION OF LOTS 45 THROUGH 53 AND LOT 58, ROLLING OAKS SUBDIVISION SECTION 3. NEXT I WILL OPEN FOR PUBLIC HEARING. IF THERE IS ANYONE HERE TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS AGENDA ITEM, AND THERE ARE, I'M SURE, IN THE DIGITAL WORLD VIEWING, PLEASE APPROACH THE PODIUM. I SEE NO MOVEMENT.

I WILL CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING. >> GOOD MORNING.

MY NAME IS COBY (NAME) WITH THE HAYES (INDISCERNIBLE) PLANNING DEPARTMENT. THE ROLLING OAKS SECTION LOT 1314 RE-PLAT AND (INDISCERNIBLE) OF ROLLING OAKS. OVERALL, THE ROLLING OAKS SUBDIVISION IS RECORDED SUBDIVISION LOCATED OFF OF ROLLING OAKS DRIVE IN PRECINCT 3. THE GOAL OF THIS PROPOSED RE-PLAT WAS TO DIVIDE LOTS 13 AND 14 RESULTING IN FOUR LOTS OVERALL. THE OVERALL ACREAGE OR CURRENT ACREAGE OF LOTS 13 AND 14 WAS 2 AND A HALF ACRES EACH.

WATER SERVICE, LOT 14 D WILL UTILIZE AN INDIVIDUAL WELL.

WHERE LOTS 13 A, 13 B AND 13 C ARE RESTRICTED TO RAINWATER COLLECTION.OR WASTEWATER TREATMENT, ALL LOTS WILL UTILIZE ADVANCED ON-SITE SEWAGE FACILITIES.

FOR THIS PROJECT, THERE WERE NO VARIANCES REQUESTED.

STEP HAS COMPLETED REVIEW FROM START TO FINISH.

IN THIS PROJECT HAS FULL STAFF RECOMMENDATION FOR APPROVAL.

>> PERFECT. >> ARE MOVED.

>> SECOND. >> PLEASE CALL ROLL.

[34. 445-448 PLN-1689-NP; Henly Creek Subdivision (1 Lot). Discussion and possible action to approve the final plat. SMITH/MACHACEK]

FINISHED AT LEAST, PLEASE OPEN 34.

>> PL ? 1689 DASH MP HENLEY CREEK SUBDIVISION.

DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION TO APPROVE THE FINAL PLAT.

>> A MOVE. >> SECOND.

>> COMMISSIONER? >> SO HENRY CREEK SUBDIVISION IS A PROPOSED ONE LOT SUBDIVISION CONSISTING OF 8.84 ACRES. IT IS LOCATED OFF OF CREEK ROAD AND PRECINCT 4. WATER SERVICE WILL BE -- SORRY -- WATER UTILITY WILL BE ACHIEVED BY INDIVIDUAL PRIVATE WELLS AND WASTEWATER TREATMENT WILL BE ACHIEVED THROUGH INDIVIDUAL

[35. 449-450 PLN-1756-PC; Call for a Public Hearing on November 23, 2021 to discuss possible action regarding the Douglas Estates Subdivision, Lot D-40, Replat. SMITH/MACHACEK]

ON-SITE SEWAGE FACILITY. THIS PROJECT HAS BEEN REVIEWED COMPLETELY BY HIS COUNTY STAFF AND THERE ARE NO VARIANCES REQUESTED, GIVING IT FULL STAFF RECOMMENDATION.

>> SO MOVED. >> SECONDED.

>> THANK YOU, SIR. PLEASE CALL ROLL.

>> 35 PLM -- 1756 -- PC CALL FOR A PUBLIC HEARING ON NOVEMBER 23, 2021 TO DISCUSS POSSIBLE ACTION REGARDING THE DOUGLAS ESTATE SUBDIVISION, WHAT THE -- 40 RE-PLAT.

>> SO MOVED. >> SECOND.

>> PLEASE CALL ROLL.

CONSENT LIST IF THERE IS NOTHING ELSE PENDING.

[Items 3 & 4, 6 - 8]

MS. HENDERSON, WE HAVE TO LEAVE EXECUTIVE FOR THE END.

I JUST WANTED YOU TO KNOW. I SEE YOU AND I FEEL YOU SITTING THERE, SO I JUST WANTED YOU TO KNOW I WASN'T OVERLOOKING. PLEASE OPEN THREE THROUGH 8-5.

>> THREE APPROVE PAYMENT OF COUNTY INVOICES.

FOR APPROVE THE PAYMENT OF UNITED HEALTHCARE CLAIMS. SIX APPROVE THE EMPLOYMENT OF KENNETH ESHELMAN TO SERVE ON THE BOARD OF EMERGENCY SERVICES, DISTRICT NUMBER 6 TO REPLACE BRAD (NAME) FOR A TERM ENDING DECEMBER 31, 2022.

SEVEN RATIFY THE EXECUTION OF A CONTRACT WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF STATE HEALTH SERVICES IN THE AMOUNT OF $26,756 FOR ACTIVITIES IN RELATION TO THE TUBERCULOSIS PREVENTION AND CONTROL FEDERAL GRANT PROGRAM. EIGHT AUTHORIZE THE PURCHASE OF ITEMS FROM BJ'S TEES FOR $1793.96 FOR THE CONTINUING EDUCATION SAFETY PROGRAM FOR THE TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT.

>> SO MOVED. >> SECOND.

>> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

COMMISSIONER? >> I JUST WANT TO THANK

[02:35:01]

COMMISSIONER REW OFF ON EST NUMBER 6. HE HAS PROVIDED YEARS OF SERVICE. WE DON'T OFTEN SEE ANY REPLACEMENTS ON THAT INDIVIDUAL ESD.

AND I SINCERELY APPRECIATE MR. ESHELMAN FOR STEPPING UP TO

FILL THAT VOID. >> YES.

AND I SAW THE RESUME IN THE BACKGROUND.

IT WAS VERY ROBUST AND I WAS VERY GRATEFUL TO SEE THAT

APPOINTMENT REQUEST. >> I WILL TELL YOU, JUDGE, THAT AS WE LOOK AT THESE ESD'S, I'VE ASKED TO TRY TO LOOK FOR PEOPLE

[9. 97-150 Authorize the execution of an Interlocal Agreement with the Texas A&M AgriLife Extension Service for the Feral Hog Abatement Program in the amount of $7,500 and amend the budget accordingly. JONES/T.CRUMLEY]

WHO HAVE EXPERTISE IN GENERAL AREAS THAT THEY HAVE INTEREST.

IN OTHER WORDS, IF THEY ARE BUILDING A BUILDING, HAVE SOMEONE ON THE BOARD WHO HAS CONSTRUCTION EXPERTISE.

IF THEY ARE LOOKING TO EXPAND AND NEED LEGAL ASSISTANCE, TO HAVE SOMEONE ON THE BOARD WHO CAN DO THAT.

THAT'S THE REASON MR. ESHELMAN IS SO IMPORTANT.

AS THEY EXPAND, THEY HAVE NEW FACILITIES THERE AND HE HAS THAT BACKGROUND THAT I THINK WILL BE HELPFUL.> YES.

WELL DONE. IF THERE ARE NO OTHER COMMENTS, PLEASE CALL ROLL.

>> AUTHORIZE THE EXECUTION OF THE INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT WITH THE TEXAS A&M AGRILIFE EXTENSION SERVICE FOR THE FERAL HOG ABATEMENT PROGRAM IN THE AMOUNT OF $7500 AND AMEND THE

BUDGET ACCORDINGLY. >> A MOVE.

>> SECOND. >> HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

WE HAVE ONE INDIVIDUAL SIGNED UP TO SPEAK.

LET ME GUESS! THERE HE IS!

>> THANK YOU. THIS IS A SUBJECT NEAR AND DEAR TO I HAVEN'T SEEN THE STATISTICS, BUT I DO BELIEVE THAT THE MAJORITY OF HOGS THAT ARE TAKEN IN THIS COUNTY ARE TAKEN BY INDIVIDUAL HUNTERS COLLECTIVELY.

AND SO FAR, I HAVEN'T HEARD ANYTHING ABOUT THE BOUNTY PROGRAM BEING REINSTATED. I KNOW THERE WAS A DISCUSSION OF IT. AND COMMISSIONER JONES SAID HE WAS WORKING ON THAT. IF WE DON'T GET THAT REINSTATED, I'M FOR TABLING THIS MOTION UNTIL WE HAVE A COMPREHENSIVE FERAL HOG ABATEMENT PROGRAM WHICH INCLUDES A BOUNTY. I MIGHT BE MISTAKEN AND MAYBE YOU HAVE REINSTATED THE BOUNTIES? WOULD LIKE TO KNOW THAT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> THANK YOU, SIR. >> JUDGE, WHAT THIS IS IS A GRANT THAT WE HAVE TO USE THIS MONEY TOWARDS THE HOG REDUCTION PROGRAMS. AND THE BOUNTY IS ONE OF THOSE.

THERE IS A MATCH OF 1250 FOR THIS GRANT.

>> IT'S 550 PER HOG? >> SO JUST TO BE CLEAR -- THERE WILL BE FIVE DOLLARS PER TALE THAT WILL BE PAID?

>> THAT IS OUR PLAN, YES. >> OKAY.

MR. MAYAN, FOR EVERY DETAIL YOU CAPTURE AND GET FIVE DOLLARS? I WILL ADD, PERSONALLY A HUGE EMBRACE!

[LAUGHTER] >> I NEED TO GET A PICTURE!

[LAUGHTER] >> I WANT YOU, MR. LION, YOU ARE A VERY COMMITTED INDIVIDUAL AND FISCAL CONSERVATIVE, AS AM I. SO FOR EVERY DETAIL YOU CAPTURE I WANT TO PUBLICIZE IT ALONGSIDE OF YOU. MAKE US PROUD.

IF THERE ARE NO OTHER COMMENTS PLEASE CALL ROLL.

I'M GOING TO UP YOUR GAME ONE. >> OH, NO!

>> I WANT TO KNOW WHAT YOU USE DESHA WHAT KIND OF RIFLE YOU

USE? >> 270.

>> FOR EVERY PIGTAIL YOU BRING IN, I WILL GIVE YOU ANOTHER ROUND FOR ANOTHER HOG. HOW'S THAT?

>> I JUST WANT THE HELICOPTER RIDE!

[LAUGHTER] >> I CAN TELL YOU THE PRICE OF AMMO TODAY? THAT IS PROBABLY MORE THAN THE

[Items 10 & 11, 13 - 16]

BOUNTY IS! >> GO GET HIM, MR. LION! PLEASE OPEN AGENDA ITEMS 10 THROUGH 16, EXCLUDING 12.

>> 10 AUTHORIZE THE COUNTY JUDGE TO EXECUTE A SERVICE AGREEMENT WITH THE PERSONAL EVALUATION INCORPORATED FOR THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE TO PERFORM PREEMPLOYMENT SCREENINGS.

11 AUTHORIZE THE PURCHASING WAIVER FOR THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE TO UTILIZE THE REP BY SAFE RESTRAINTS INCORPORATED FOR FY22 APPROVED SAFETY RESTRAINTS.

13 APPROVED SPECIFICATIONS FOR IFB 2023 ? TWO THREE COTTON GIN

[02:40:06]

ROAD ROAD AND AUTHORIZE PURCHASING TO SOLICIT FOR BIDS AND ADVERTISE. 14 APPROVED SPECIFICATIONS FOR RFP 2022 ? P0 TWO CONSULTING SERVICES ANIMAL SHELTER AND ANIMAL SERVICES FEASIBILITY STUDY AND AUTHORIZE PURCHASING TO SOLICIT FOR BIDS AND ADVERTISE.

15 AUTHORIZE THE SUBMISSION OF A GRANT APPLICATION TO THE TEXAS DIVISION OF EMERGENCY AND IT FOR THE HAZARD MITIGATION GRANT PROGRAM IN THE AMOUNT OF $159,228.

16 ACCEPT A PROPOSAL FROM BECKWITH ELECTRONIC SYSTEMS LLC IN THE AMOUNT OF $8390 FOR REPAIRS NEEDED TO THE CREST RUN SYSTEM IN DISTRICT COURT ROOM NUMBER 7. THE GOVERNMENT CENTER. AUTHORIZE THE DISCRETIONARY EXEMPTION PURSUANT TO TEXAS LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE 262 POINT (INDISCERNIBLE). AND AMEND THE BUDGET

ACCORDINGLY. >> SO MOVED.

>> SECONDED. REX PLEASE CALL ROLL.

[Items 17 & 18]

>> 17 AUTHORIZE PAYMENT TO AUSTIN EXTREME GRAPHICS IN THE AMOUNT OF $998.22 FOR THE CONSTABLE PRECINCT 2 OFFICE IN WHICH NO PURCHASE IS REQUIRED. 18 APPROVE RENEWAL OF IFB 2022 DASH 202 HAULING SOLID WASTE WITH CENTRAL WASTE AND RECYCLING AND TEXAS DISPOSAL SYSTEMS FOR ONE ADDITIONAL YEAR AS STATED IN THE ORIGINAL BID EFFECTIVE NOVEMBER 5, 2021.

>> SO MOVED. >> SECOND.

>> PLEASE CALL ROLL.

[20. 287-288 Hold a public hearing with possible action to establish 3-way stop locations on Old Bastrop Highway at the intersections of Posey Road and Francis Harris Lane. INGALSBE/BORCHERDING]

>> HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING WITH POSSIBLE ACTION TO ESTABLISH THREE-WAY STOP LOCATIONS ON OLD BASTROP HIGHWAY AT THE INTERSECTIONS OF POSEY ROAD AND FRANCIS HARRIS LANE.

>> AND I'M GOING TO OPEN FOR PUBLIC HEARING.

ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS AGENDA ITEM, PLEASE APPROACH THE PODIUM. I SEE NO MOVEMENT.

I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

COMMISSIONER COLLEY. >> THANK YOU, JUDGE.

AS WE HAVE DONE ON OLD BASTROP ROAD AND CENTERPOINT ROAD, WE WANT TO ESTABLISH THREE-WAY STOP AT THESE TWO LOCATIONS.

WE CONTINUE TO SEE AN INCREASED NUMBER OF HEAVY TRUCK TRAFFIC THAT GOES DOWN THAT ROAD AT HIGH RATES OF SPEEDS.ND SO, FOR THE SAFETY OF THOSE TRAVELING THAT ROADWAY, WE ARE ASKING THAT WE ESTABLISH THESE THREE-WAY STOP LOCATIONS.

>> I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND? LOOKING FOR A SECOND! ON THE SIDE REAFFIRMING BUT THE COMMISSIONERS STATED.

PLEASE CALL ROLL.

[21. 289 Discussion and possible action to consider the release of the maintenance bond #58S211340-001 in the amount of $174,546.55, and the acceptance of roads into the county road maintenance system for Crosswinds subdivision, Phase 2. INGALSBE/BORCHERDING]

>> DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION TO CONSIDER THE RELEASE OF THE MAINTENANCE BOND NUMBER 58S211340- 001 IN THE AMOUNT OF $174,546.55 AND THE ACCEPTANCE OF ROADS INTO THE COUNTY ROAD MAINTENANCE SYSTEM FOR CROSSWINDS SUBDIVISION PHASE 2.

>> SO MOVED. >> SECOND.>> WE HAVE A MOTION

AND A SECOND. >> AND I BELIEVE WE HAVE STAFF RECOMMENDATION TO ACCEPT THESE ROADS?

>> PLEASE CALL ROLL.

CAN YOU GUYS TELL ME WHAT THE CLOCKS IS OVER THERE?

[22. 290-295 Discussion and possible action to consider the acceptance of road construction & drainage improvements, release of the performance bond #9933969 in the amount of $345,571.00, and acceptance of the 2-year maintenance bond #146805D in the amount of $29,557.10 for Northridge subd., Phase 3. SMITH/BORCHERDING]

11:54. OKAY.

THANK YOU. PLEASE OPEN NUMBER 22.

>> DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO CONSIDER THE ACCEPTANCE OF ROAD CONSTRUCTION AND DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENTS RELEASE THE PERFORMANCE PLAN OF NUMBER 993-3969 IN THE AMOUNT OF $345,571 AND ACCEPTANCE OF THE TWO-YEAR MAINTENANCE BOND, NUMBER 146805D IN THE AMOUNT OF 29,500 $57,000.10.

NORTHRIDGE SUBDIVISION PHASE 3. >> A MOVE.

>> SECONDED. >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. COMMISSIONR SMITH?

[02:45:01]

>> YES. THIS IS JUST A RELEASE OF THE MAINTENANCE BOND. NOTHING SPECIAL.

>> PERFECT. PLEASE CALL ROLL.

[23. 296-302 Discussion and possible action to consider the acceptance of road construction & drainage improvements, acceptance of the 2-year maintenance bond #PB03016800693M in the amount of $49,235.54, and acceptance of the 1-year revegetation bond #PB03016800693M in the amount of $19,781.95 for 6 Creeks subd., Phase 1, Section 4A. SMITH/BORCHERDING]

>> 23 DISCUSSION POSSIBLE ACTION TO CONSIDER THE ACCEPTANCE OF ROAD CONSTRUCTION AND DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENTS ACCEPTANCE OF THE TWO-YEAR MAINTENANCE BOND NUMBER PB 0301 680069 3M IN THE AMOUNT OF $49,235.54 AND ACCEPTANCE OF THE ONE YEAR REVEGETATION BOND, NUMBER PB 03016800693M IN THE AMOUNT OF $19,781.95 FOR SIX CREEKS SUBDIVISION PHASE 1

SECTION 4 A. >> A MOVE.

>> SECOND. >> PLEASE CALL ROLL.

[24. 303-306 Discussion and possible action to authorize the County Judge to execute Change Order No. 3 in the amount of $58,577.04 to the Construction Contract between Hays County and Cox Commercial Construction for the RM 3237 at RM 150 Roundabout (IFB-2021-B06) project as part of the Hays County Road Bond Program. SHELL/BORCHERDING]

>> DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION TO AUTHORIZE THE COUNTY JUDGE TO EXECUTE CHANGE ORDER NUMBER 3 IN THE AMOUNT OF $58,577.04 TO A CONSTRUCTION CONTRACT BETWEEN HAYS COUNTY AND COX COMMERCIAL CONSTRUCTION FOR THE RM 3237 AND RM 150 ROUNDABOUT PROJECT AS PART OF THE HAYS COUNTY ROAD BOND

PROGRAM. >> MOVED.

>> SEEMED. >> THE PROJECT, THE ROUNDABOUT -- THIS IS FOR LIGHTING.O WE HAVE TAKEN A CLOSER LOOK TO TRY TO REDUCE LIGHT POLLUTION. TO BECOME IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE DARK SKY. AND YOU WILL SEE IT ACTUALLY REQUIRES A FEW MORE LIGHTS. DIFFERENT LIGHTS THAT SHINE DIFFERENTLY. IT WAS FASCINATING THE ENGINEERING -- WAS THE FIRST TIME I GOT TO THE WEEDS ON SOMETHING LIKE THAT. SO THIS IS ALL JUST FOR THE LIGHTING. WE WERE ABLE TO CATCH THAT BEFORE THOSE ORDERS WERE MADE. SO IT'S PURELY JUST THE DIFFERENCE IN THE COST OF THE LIGHTS THEMSELVES.

>> THAT'S BEAUTIFUL, COMMISSIONER.ND THAT EXTRA WORK IS HIGHLY APPRECIATED. AND I KNOW THAT I PERSONALLY, I'M GRATEFUL FOR THAT EFFORT. PLEASE CALL ROLL.

[25. 307-342 Discussion and possible action to authorize the County Judge to execute a Professional Services Agreement (Contract) between Hays County and Cobb Fendley & Associates, Inc. to provide utility coordination services for the low water crossing projects in Precinct 4. SMITH/BORCHERDING]

>> DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION TO AUTHORIZE THE COUNTY JUDGE TO EXECUTE A PROFESSIONAL SERVICES AGREEMENT BETWEEN HAYS COUNTY AND CONFIDENTLY AND ASSOCIATES INCORPORATED TO PROVIDE UTILITY COORDINATION SERVICES FOR THE LOW WATER CROSSING PROJECT INCREASING (INDISCERNIBLE).

>> A MOVE. >> SECOND.

>> COMMISSIONER COLLEY. >> PART OF THE 2016 ROAD BOND PACKAGE PROVIDED FOR TWO LOW WATER CROSSING IMPROVEMENTS.

AND PRECINCT 4. WE ARE ACTUALLY JUST ABOUT DONE WITH ALL THE ENGINEERING. WE ARE STARTING TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE CONSTRUCTION. THE ONE THING I WOULD ADD IS WE MADE THE CHANGE EARLIER. PROBABLY TWO MONTHS AGO.NDER THE UTILITY RELOCATION TO TRY TO SAVE MONEY FOR THE COUNTY, WE ARE GOING TO HAVE THESE GUYS -- WHOEVER DOES THE LOW WATER CROSSING ALSO COORDINATE WITH OUR DIVISION OF EMERGENCY SERVICES TO MOVE THOSE MONITORING SERVE L SYSTEMS. BECAUSE THEY COULD BE CONSIDERED UTILITY.

SO WE DON'T HAVE TO COME BACK AND HIT OUR EMERGENCY FUNDING

FOR THAT. >> IT WAS PERFECTLY EXECUTED.

IF THERE ARE NO OTHER COMMENTS, PLEASE CALL ROLL.

COUNTY THAT RECEIVES TAX WHEN LOW WATER CROSSINGS HAVE WATER COMING OUT OF THEM? I SEE MIKE JONES OVER THERE SMILING AND NODDING TOO. IT'S JUST A BIG DEAL THAT WE KEEP OUR SYSTEM ON THE CUTTING EDGE OF EVERYTHING WE HAVE AS A COUNTY BUILT UP. SO THAT'S AWESOME.

>> WE HAVE AS MANY LOW WATER CROSSINGS AS MANY COUNTIES IN

THE NATION. >> I THINK SO.

[26. 343-383 Discussion and possible action to authorize the County Judge to execute a Professional Services Agreement between Hays County and LJA Engineering, Inc. to provide right-of-way acquisition services for the FM 2001 West project in Precinct 2. JONES/BORCHERDING]

>> I THINK I HAVE MORE IN MY PRECINCT THAN THE REST.

THE LAST WEATHER EVENT THAT WE GOT, I CAN TELL YOU I GOT SOMEWHERE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF 60 OR 70 NOTIFICATIONS AS WATER LEVELS CHANGE. SO I APPRECIATE THAT SYSTEM

IMMENSELY. >> PLEASE OPEN 26.

>> DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO AUTHORIZE THE COUNTY JUDGE TO EXECUTE A PROFESSIONAL SERVICES AGREEMENT BETWEEN HAYS COUNTY AND LGA ENGINEERING INCORPORATED TO PROVIDE RIGHT-OF-WAY ACQUISITION SERVICES FOR THE FM 2001 W.

[02:50:10]

PROJECT INCREASING TOO. >> A MOVE.

>> SECONDED.>> JUDGE, AS PART OF OUR 2021 REALIGNMENT PROJECT. THIS IS ONE OF THE EIGHT PROJECTS WE ARE DOING WITH TXDOT.

WE ARE READY STARTED CONSTRUCTION ON THE WESTERN PART. SO THIS WILL BE ON THE RIGHT OF

WEIGHT ACQUISITION. >> THANK YOU.

>> JUDGE, SINCE THE RIGHT-OF-WAY COORDINATION SERVICES IS NOT PURELY ENGINEERING, I'VE ASKED JANICE JONES IN MY OFFICE TO MODIFY THIS TEMPLATE TO FIT THAT SITUATION A LITTLE BETTER. IT REFERS TO THEM AS ENGINEERS.

WE WILL REFERENCE THEM AS CONTRACTORS.

AND THEN, THERE IS A PROJECT DOCUMENT SECTION IN ARTICLE 1, SECTION B. I WANT TO MODIFY THAT.

THERE IS NO NEED FOR THEM TO COMPLY WITH ALL THESE DESIGN MANUALS AND WHATNOT. SO WE WILL MODIFY THAT IF

THAT'S OKAY WITH THE COURT. >> SOUNDS GREAT.

PLEASE CALL ROLL. P

[30. 401-407 Discussion and possible action to accept the Irrevocable Letter of Credit No. SBP702741 for street and drainage improvements for Parten Ranch, Phase 2B, Final Plat in the amount of $808,725.50. SMITH/BORCHERDING]

>> DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION TO DISCUSS THE LETTER OF CREDIT NUMBER SBP 702741 FOR STREET AND DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENTS FOR PARTON RANCH FACE TO BE FINAL PLAT IN THE

AMOUNT OF $808,725.50. >> PLEASE CALL ROLE.

[31. 408-429 Discussion and possible action to approve Advance Funding Agreement for Preventative Maintenance and Rehabilitation Program On-System Project (RM 967 Maintenance) and authorize the County Judge to execute Advance Funding Agreement on behalf of Hays County. JONES/BORCHERDING]

>> DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION TO APPROVE ADVANCE FUNDING AGREEMENT FOR PREVENTATIVE MAINTENANCE AND REHABILITATION PROGRAM ON SYSTEM PROJECT RM 967 MAINTENANCE. AND AUTHORIZE THE COUNTY JUDGE TO EXECUTE ADVANCE FUNDING AGREEMENT ON BEHALF OF HAYS

COUNTY. >> JUDGE, THIS IS A PROJECT BETWEEN -- THIS PROJECT IS A RECONSTRUCTION PROJECT BETWEEN THE CITY LIMITS TO 35. WHERE WE ARE DOING THE TRUCK

BYPASS ALSO. >> PLEASE CALL ROLL.

[32. 430-440 Discussion and possible action to authorize the County Judge to execute an Interlocal Agreement between Hays County and the City of Kyle relating to the Center Street Union Pacific Railroad (UPRR) Siding Relocation Project and amend the budget accordingly. JONES/BORCHERDING]

>> DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION TO AUTHORIZE THE COUNTY JUDGE TO EXECUTE AN INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT BETWEEN HAYS COUNTY AND THE CITY OF KYLE RELATING TO THE CENTER STREET UNION PACIFIC RAILROAD SIDING RELOCATION PROJECT AND AMEND

[37. 452-473 Discussion and possible action to authorize the County Judge to execute an Agreement between Hays County and HDR Architecture, Inc. to provide architectural designs and services related to the upgrade of the Government Center security, camera and badge reader system, and the installation of a surveillance system for the Historic Courthouse in the amount of $184,100 and authorize a discretionary exemption pursuant to Texas Government Code Chapter 2254. INGALSBE/T.CRUMLEY]

THE BUDGET ACCORDINGLY. >> A MOVED.

>> SECOND. >> PLEASE CALL ROLL.

>> 37. DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION TO AUTHORIZE THE COUNTY JUDGE TO EXECUTE AN AGREEMENT BETWEEN HAYS COUNTY AND HDR ARCHITECTURE INCORPORATED TO PROVIDE ARCHITECTURAL DESIGNS AND SERVICES RELATED TO THE UPGRADE OF THE GOVERNMENT CENTER SECURITY CAMERA AND BADGE READER SYSTEM AND THE INSTALLATION OF SURVEILLANCE SYSTEMS FOR THE HISTORIC COURTHOUSE IN THE AOUNT OF $184,100 AND AUTHORIZE THE DISCUSSION DISCRETIONARY EXEMPTION PURSUANT TO TEXAS CHAPTER 2254.

>> A MOVED. >> SECOND.

>> AND IF YOU WOULD STATE YOUR NAME AND TITLE?

>> TAMMY CRUMLEY DIRECTOR OF OPERATIONS.

>> WITHOUT GIVING AWAY TOO MUCH, MS. CRUMLEY, IF YOU WOULD

GIVE US A BROAD OVERVIEW. >> SO HDR WILL PROVIDE US WITH A FACILITY ASSESSMENT FOR BOTH LOCATIONS.

AND PRODUCE THE DESIGN AND SPECIFICATIONS FOR EACH BUILDING. AND BE ABLE TO HELP US WALK THROUGH THE PROCUREMENT PROCESS AS WELL.

>> PERFECT. COMMISSIONERS, ANY QUESTIONS? FOR THE HISTORIC COURTHOUSE, JUST TO LET YOU KNOW, IT WILL NOT BE ALL OF THE ABOVE. THE GOVERNMENT CENTER WILL BE

PURELY CAMERAS? >> YES.

NO BADGE SYSTEM. OUR BADGE SYSTEM IS FAILING AND

NEEDS TO BE REPLACED. >> I WILL JUST NOTE THAT THE BACKUP AGENDA WAS REDACTED TO NON-DISCLOSED CAMERA LOCATIONS, WHICH IS SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD NOT DISCLOSE IF THE PUBLIC ASKED FOR IT AND THE IA REQUEST.

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THOSE WERE PROVIDED TO YOU. >> THANK YOU.

ANYTHING ELSE FOR MS. CRUMLEY? OKAY.

THANK YOU, MS. CRUMLEY. PLEASE CALL ROLL.

[38. 474-475 Discuss and possible action to authorize the submission of a Community Development Block Grant - Local Hazard Mitigation Plans Program Application to the General Land Office; and authorizing the County Judge to act as the County's Executive Officer and Authorized representative in all manners pertaining to the County's participation in the Community Development Block Grant - Mitigation Program. BECERRA/T.CRUMLEY/MIKE JONES]

>> DISCUSS AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO AUTHORIZE THE SUBMISSION OF A COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT LOCAL HAZARD MITIGATION PLANS PROGRAM APPLICATION TO THE GENERAL LAND OFFICE AND AUTHORIZING THE COUNTY JUDGE TO ACT AS THE COUNTY'S EXECUTIVE OFFICER AND AUTHORIZED REPRESENTATIVE IN ALL MATTERS PERTAINING TO THE PARTICIPATION IN THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT

PBLOCK GRANT MITIGATION PROGRAM. >> SO MOVED.

>> SECONDED. >> PLEASE CALL ROLL.

[42. 523-524 Discussion and possible action related to Fire Code regulation of properties under a Development Agreement with the City of Dripping Springs. SMITH]

OVERHEAR YOU WANTED TO (INDISCERNIBLE) TO TIE INTO MY

EXECUTIVE SESSION ITEM? >> WE CAN GO AHEAD AND OPEN IT.

>> OKAY. OPEN 42.

>> DISCUSSION POSSIBLE ACTION RELATED TO FIRE CODE REGULATION OF PROPERTIES UNDER A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WITH THE

CITY OF DRIPPING SPRINGS. >> A MOVE.

>> SECONDED. >> WOULD YOU LIKE TO READ THE RESOLUTION? WE COULD FORGO IT.

IF YOU REMEMBER WE HAD A CONVERSATION EARLIER THIS YEAR RELATIVE TO THE FACT THAT THERE ARE NUMBER OF ENTITIES OUT THERE THAT ARE SIGNING DIRECT AGREEMENTS WITH INDIVIDUAL CITIES WITHIN THE COUNTY. A NUMBER OF THOSE, THE CITIES HAVE CHOSEN TO TAKE OWNERSHIP OF CERTAIN PORTIONS OF THE DEVELOPMENT PROCESS.E HAVE STATUTORY AUTHORITY IN SOME OF THOSE AREAS. THIS WOULD CERTIFY THAT THEY ARE GOING TO CONDUCT THOSE INSPECTIONS SPECIFIC TO THE FIRE CODE ON THIS DEVELOPMENT. IN ORDER TO DO THAT -- WE DID IT ONCE EARLIER THIS YEAR. BUT EACH ONE OF THESE DEVELOPMENTS OR DAS THAT THE CITIES MAY SIGN -- WE CAN DO THAT BY INDIVIDUALLY APPROVING THOSE.

BUT I DIDN'T FEEL IT WAS NECESSARY.

I DIDN'T FEEL IT WAS PRUDENT FOR US TO GIVE UP THAT STATUTORY AUTHORITY IN GENERAL. BUT AS THE STOMACH THESE AGREEMENTS COME UP I THINK WE NEED TO LOOK AT EACH ONE INDIVIDUALLY. THIS IS ANOTHER ONE BASED ON THE SAME CONCEPT OF THE PREVIOUS ONE WE ADOPTED.

IS THAT A FAIR WAY TO PUT IT? >> THAT IS CORRECT.

>> THANK YOU FOR THAT. SO THESE WOULD BE THE MUNICIPALITY OF DRIPPING SPRINGS TAKING OUR CODE AND ENFORCING THE SETUP OF IT IN THE PLANNING OF A DEVELOPMENT? BUT NOT TO DIMINISH WHAT WE HAVE?

>> CORRECT. AND WHAT WE FOUND IS THERE IS A NUMBER OF THESE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS.

WHEREBY AN EXAMPLE, THE LAST ONE WAS AN OLD LONG-STANDING DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT THAT GAVE THE AUTHORITY OF REGULATION OF THE FIRE CODE TO THE INDIVIDUAL EST THAT THEY ARE SITTING IN.

WE REVIEWED THAT, AND THE ESD HAS AGREED THAT THEY WOULD TAKE THAT. THEY FULLY ANTICIPATED DOING IT. THIS IS JUST CLEAN UP BECAUSE OF HIS DISCREPANCY BETWEEN WHAT THE COUNTY WAS SUPPOSED TO DO IN THE CITY WAS SUPPOSED TO DO. SO THIS JUST CLARIFIES DIRECTLY

WHO IS IN CHARGE OF THAT. >> THAT IS GOOD.

BECAUSE I THINK THE EXPERIENCE OF SOMEONE INVESTING IN OUR COMMUNITY -- A DEVELOPMENT, A HOUSE, A TENT OR A YEAR TO -- WE HAVE AWESOME YURTS! MY SON WAS THERE THIS WEEKEND.

IT IS A REAL SERIOUS INVESTMENT OF PEOPLE'S LIVELIHOODS IN MANY CASES TO INVEST IN OUR COMMUNITY.

IT'S A BIG FOOTPRINT. SO I BIGGEST HOPE IS FOR US TO BE CONSISTENT AND PREDICTABLE COUNTYWIDE.

AND SO, SINCE YOU HAVE -- I BELIEVE YOU HAVE THE SAME SPIRIT OF MIND OF NOT OVERBURDENING DEVELOPMENT AND NOT ARTICULATING FURTHER DEMANDS THAT ARE BEYOND THE BASELINE OF UNDERSTANDING. I FEEL IN SPIRIT THAT IS WHAT YOU ARE AFTER AND I SUPPORT THAT.

BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE DO OUR VERY BEST TO BE CONSISTENT COUNTYWIDE WITH ANYTHING TO DO WITH (INDISCERNIBLE).

>> JUDGE, I COULDN'T AGREE WITH YOU MORE.

THE CONCERN THAT I HAVE IS THAT IF IT IS DONE IN A PIECEMEAL FASHION, IT'S NOT FAIR TO THE INDIVIDUALS WHO STEPPED UP AND TRIED TO ADDRESS THE CODE STOPPED WHERE WE KNOW THERE HAVE BEEN ISSUES IN THE PAST. AND WHILE I AM NOT A HUGE PROPONENT -- I DON'T KNOW ANOTHER WAY TO PUT THIS -- JUST A HORRIBLY BURDENSOME SYSTEM THAT PREVENTS ANYTHING FROM BEING ABLE TO BE BILLED HERE, THERE ARE CERTAIN BASIC STANDARDS THAT WE HAVE TO ADDRESS -- JUST FOR THE PUBLIC

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SAFETY OF OUR SYSTEM. IF THIS:THIS GETS TO THE ROOT OF THAT AND ALLOWS US TO GET TO THOSE CONCERNS.

AND IT DOES SO IN A WAY THAT WE CAN STILL ENSURE PUBLIC SAFETY.

AND THAT'S MY BIGGEST CONCERN. >> WELL SAID.

>> JUST A QUICK QUESTION, JUDGE.

SO MY UNDERSTADING CORRECTLY THAT THIS IS FOR A PARTICULAR PROJECT? AND THEN, ANY OTHERS WOULD COME

-- >> WOULD HAVE TO COME TO US DIRECTLY. AGAIN THESE ARE PROJECTS WHO ALREADY HAVE EXISTING DAS THROUGH THIS COMMUNITY.

>> THAT IS CORRECT. THIS WOULD BE THE FIRST RESOLUTION THE COURT PASSED -- WERE TO DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS BUT THE PROJECTS WERE CLOSE TO ONE ANOTHER IN THE DRIFTWOOD AREA. THIS IS THE NEXT PROJECT.

WE WENT BACK AND LOOKED AT IT. I COULDN'T RECALL HOW WE HAD DONE THE FIRST RESOLUTION. AND I WAS REMINDED THAT WE DECIDED TO BE PROJECT SPECIFIC. JUST BECAUSE IT'S GIVING A

BROADER AUTHORITY. >> THANK YOU.

>> WOULD YOU PLEASE READ THE DOCUMENT?

>> RESOLUTION RELATED TO THE ENFORCEMENT OF THE FIRE CODE AND CERTAIN SUBDIVISIONS. WHEREAS HAYES CAN ADOPTED A FIRE CODE TO BE EFFECTIVE ON OR ABOUT JANUARY 1, 2020, AND WHEREAS OTHER MUNICIPALITIES AND OR EMERGENCY SERVICES DISTRICT WITHIN JESUS INCLUDING THE CITY OF DRIPPING SPRINGS HAVE PRIOR TO THE ADOPTION TO THE HAYS COUNTY CODE ADOPTED THEIR OWN FIRE CODES. AND WHEREAS COLLABORATION WITH LOCAL JURISDICTIONS, HE'S COUNTY REPRESENTATIVES HAVE COME TO RECOGNIZE THAT THERE ARE OCCASIONS WHEN A MUNICIPALITY IS BETTER SUITED TO PROVIDE FIRE CODE ENFORCEMENT FOR DEVELOPMENT IN ITS EXTRATERRITORIAL JURISDICTION. AND WHEREAS THE CITY OF DRIPPING SPRINGS HAS VIA A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WITH ENTERING INVESTMENTS TRACT DOUBLE L DEVELOPMENT WHEREIN IT PURPORTS TO PROVIDE FIRE PROTECTION REVIEW THROUGH ITS CONTRACT THROUGH THE EMERGENCY SERVICE DISTRICT NUMBER 6, THE NORTH HAYES FIRE AND RESCUE. AND WHEREAS THE CITY OF DRIPPING SPRINGS IS PROVIDED PRIMARY REVIEW ON ALL OTHER ASPECTS OF THE DEVELOPMENT OF A SUBDIVISION BY THIS ENTITY.

AND WHEREAS THE HAYES CAN A COMMISSIONERS COURT IS AUTHORIZED BY TEXAS LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE, SECTION 233.061 TO CONTRACT WITH ANY MUNICIPALITY WITHIN HAYS COUNTY FOR THE PROVISION OF FIRE CODE ENFORCEMENT.

AND WHEREAS THE HAYES CAN A COMMISSIONERS COURT HAS DETERMINED THAT IT IS APPROPRIATE TO DELEGATE FIRE CODE ENFORCEMENT TO THE CITY OF DRIPPING SPRINGS FOR THE SUBDIVISIONS FALLING UNDER THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT CITED ABOVE. NOW, THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED AND AGREED THIS, 2 NOVEMBER, 2021, THAT THE HASTE TO COMMISSIONERS COURT HEREBY DELEGATES FIRE CODE ENFORCEMENT TO THE CITY OF DRIPPING SPRINGS FROM THIS DAY FORWARD FOR ITS DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WITH ENTERING INVESTMENTS TRACT DOUBLE L DEVELOPMENT AND REQUESTS THAT THE INDIVIDUAL AUTHORIZED TO AGREE TO SUCH DELEGATION FOR THE CITY OF DRIPPING SPRINGS DO SO BY SIGNING BELOW.

>> SO THE FIRST QUESTION, I HAVE, MR. KENNEDY ESD SIX -- I JUST WANTED TO DOUBLE CHECK. DRIPPING SPRINGS OR ESD SIX WILL BE DOING THE FIRE CODE ENFORCEMENT?

>> DRIPPING SPRINGS CONTRACTS WITH ESD SIX TO DO THEIR ENFORCEMENT ON THEIR BEHALF. SO WE ARE CONTRACTING WITH THE CITY OF DRIPPING SPRINGS ESD SIX HAS THE EXPERTISE TO GO OUT

AND DO THE INSPECTIONS. >> OKAY.

I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE, AS A COUNTY, DRIPPING SPRINGS IS GOING TO USE ESD SIX TO DO THEIR FIRE AND CODING ENFORCEMENT. THERE WILL BE NOTHING LESS THAN WHAT OUR STANDARDS ARE, OF COURSE?

>> THE FIRE CODE PROVISIONS THAT THEY ARE ENFORCING ARE THE SAME AS OUR FIRE CODE PROVISIONS.

REX I JUST WANTED TO DOUBLE CHECK.

>> ALL THAT IS CHANGING IS WHO STRUCK AND WHO GOES OUT TO DO IT. AND I WILL TELL YOU THAT ESD SIX HAS BEEN UNDER CONTRACT WITH THE CITY OF DRIPPING SPRINGS FOR NUMBER OF YEARS. TO DO THEIR FIRE CODE ENFORCEMENT. THERE IS A KNOWLEDGE WITHIN THAT COMMUNITY OF WHO DOES IT FOR ESD SIX.

THEY'VE DONE A GREAT JOB OF CONNECTING WITH THE FOLKS AT THE CITY. AS WELL AS FOLKS WHO WERE BUILDING IN THE AREA. SO THERE IS A FAMILIARITY THERE. THE OTHER THING I WOULD SAY IS

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IF THERE ARE ISSUES WITH THE ENFORCEMENT AND ISSUES WERE THEY WANT TO GET SOMEBODY THERE IMMEDIATELY? RIGHT NOW, THEY HAVE FACILITIES THAT ARE THERE.

SO IT'S NOT HAVING TO BOOK AND SEND SOMEONE FROM SAN MARCUS THERE TO DO IT. LITERALLY THERE IS SOMEBODY IN

TWO MILES TO GET THERE. >> COMMISSIONERS, ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS OR CONCERNS? OKAY. IF THERE IS NOTHING ELSE, THEN PLEASE CALL ROLL.

PROVIDING FEEDBACK ON THAT. SO IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, WE HAVE SOME STANDING AGENDA ITEMS. AN EXECUTIVE SESSION ITEMS AND A WORKSHOP AT ONE. THAT'S ALL WE HAVE LEFT, RIGHT?

>> YET. IF YOU WANT THE WORKSHOP ON

TAPE -- >> I DO.

>> THEN WE NEED TO DO THE EXECUTIVE SESSION AFTER THAT.

>> SO HOW DO WE GET AROUND THAT? BECAUSE WE CAN KNOCK OUT EXECUTIVE SESSION -- ARE YOU SAYING THAT WE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO HAVE IT RECORDED? OR ENTERED? IF EXECUTIVE SESSION WAS TO GO

FIRST? >> THEY WON'T HAVE THE LIFE CAPTIONING AND IT WILL AFFECT THE TRANSCRIPT.

>> IT WON'T HAVE THE LIFE CAPTIONING?

>> SAY THAT AGAIN? >> THIS WAS SHARED WITH ME A WHILE BACK THAT AFTER EXECUTIVE SESSION, --

>> IT'S WHEN EXECUTIVE SESSION STARTS, OUR PROVIDER, SWAG IT STOPS DOING LIFE CAPTIONING. BECAUSE IT'S SOUNPREDICTABLE WHAT THE TIME IS AND THEY HAVE TO PAY.

IT'S DONE BY A HUMAN BEING. THEY HAVE TO PAY FOR THEM TO SIT THERE AND WAIT FOR THE EXECUTIVE SESSION TO BE OVER.

SO WE CONCLUDED THAT IT WAS PROHIBITIVELY EXPENSIVE TO DO THAT. AND SO, WE WOULD TRY TO DO EXECUTIVE SESSION'S AT THE END .

SO WE CAN SAVE -- I MEAN, THE ALTERNATIVE IS WE CAN AUTHORIZE TO LET THE PERSON SIT THERE THROUGH THE WHOLE PERIOD WHEN

THE CAMERA IS OFF (LAUGHING). >> WHEN DID WE LEARN THAT?

>> IT WAS PART OF THAT CONTRACT NEGOTIATION OF DECISION-MAKING OF CHOOSING THE PRICE OF THE OVERALL CONTRACT.

SO WE COULD -- >> WE JUST WILL BE ABLE TO

VIDEO THE PART AFTERWARDS. >> THAT'S WHAT IT IS.

WE STILL HAVE -- >> WE DON'T HAVE THE AIRING

LIVE CAPACITY. >> NO IT'S A LIFE CAPTIONING.

>> THEY DO LIVE CAPTIONING AND THERE IS A TRANSCRIPT AVAILABLE TO PEOPLE. WE DON'T HAVE A TRANSCRIPT AND WE DON'T HAVE THE CAPTIONING. THAT'S ALL.> BUT SOMEONE

WILL BE ABLE TO SEE -- >> THEY CAN SEE.

>> OKAY. THAT'S GOOD.

SO IF EVERYONE IS OKAY WITH IT, HOW ABOUT WE HAD THROUGH THE

[48. Discussion related to the Hays County inmate population, to include current population counts and costs. BECERRA]

EXECUTIVE SESSION ITEMS?AND THEN, WE WILL GO INTO THE

WORKSHOP AT ONE. >> THE STANDING AGENDA ITEM

NOW? >> LET'S DO THE STANDING AGENDA ITEMS FIRST. NUMBER 48.

>> NUMBER 48. DISCUSSION RELATED TO THE HAYS COUNTY INMATE POPULATION TO INCLUDE CURRENT POPULATION

COUNTS AND COSTS. >> SO EACH WEEK, THE SHERIFF OFFICE SENDS ME A REPORT OF OUR JOE CAPACITY AND OUR INMATE CAPACITY. OUR MAXIMUM JOE CAPACITY IS STILL 410 INMATES. IT RECOMMENDS THE CAPACITY OF 10 PERCENT OPEN. THE CHILLS DAILY AVERAGE WAS 629 AND PEAK WAS 636 ON OCTOBER 24.

THE ESTIMATED COST FOR OUTSOURCING INMATES THIS WEEK IS 79,000 DOLLARS. MALES 162 OUTSOURCED AND FEMALES ARE 11. I WAS IN A CONVERSATION WITH ANOTHER COUNTY JUDGE, WHERE OUR SHERIFF IS WORKING WITH THEIR SHERIFF TO CREATE ADDITIONAL LOCATIONS.

THIS ONE IS 2 AND A HALF HOURS AWAY.I'M NOT A FAN OF IT.

BUT I WANT TO REMIND FOLKS THAT THE OUTSOURCING OF INMATES IS NOT THE RESPONSIBILITY OR TIED TO THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE.THAT IS NOT THE SHERIFF'S JOB DIFFICULT TO LET PEOPLE OUT OF OUR JAIL. SO I JUST DIDN'T WANT THAT TO BE A MISUNDERSTANDING. DID YOU WANT TO ADD SOMETHING?

>> I HAD A QUESTION WITH THE TEAMS APPS STILL WORK --

>> YES. WE WILL STAY ON COURSE WITH

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EVERYTHING. IT'S JUST A SMALL TEXT PIECE OR

[EXECUTIVE SESSIONS Items 44 - 46]

(INDISCERNIBLE). NOW WE WILL GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION AND COME BACK OUT FOR OUR 1:00 WORKSHOP.

WE PLEASE OPEN AGENDA ITEMS 44, 45, AND 46.

>> 44 THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE CONSULTATION WITH COUNSEL AND DELIBERATION REGARDING THE POSITIONS OF THE HAYS COUNTY FIRE MARSHAL'S OFFICE AND THE HAYS CAN OFFICE OF EMERGENCY SERVICES DIRECTORS AND REGARDING STATE STATUTES ON FIRE CODE. POSSIBLE DISCUSSION AND OR ACTION MAY FOLLOW AN OPEN COURT.

35 EXECUTIVE SESSION PURSUANT TO SECTIONS 551.071 AND 551.072 OF THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE. CONSULTATION WITH COUNSEL AND DELIBERATION REGARDING THE PURCHASE EXCHANGE LEASE AND/OR VALUE OF REAL PROPERTY ASSOCIATED WITH THE BOSAK RECOMMENDED 2020 PARKS AND OPEN SPACE BOND PROJECT AND REGARDING BOSAK REVIEW AND CRITERIA.

POSSIBLE DISCUSSION AND/OR ACTION MAY FOLLOW IN OPEN COURT. 46 EXECUTIVE SESSION PURSUANT TO SECTIONS 551.071 AND 551.072 OF THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE CONSULTATION WITH COUNSEL AND DELIBERATION REGARDING THE PURCHASE, EXCHANGE, LEASE AND/OR VALUE

[43. 525 1:00PM - Workshop regarding a Needs Assessment roadmap and funding for a Mental Health Hospital. Possible action may follow. BECERRA]

>> OKAY. WE ARE GOING TO STARTED OUR VERY IMPORTANT WORKSHOP. WILL YOU PLEASE OPEN AGENDA ITEM

NUMBER 43. >> 43, 1:00 P.M., WORKSHOP REGARDING A ROADMAP AND FUNDING FOR MENTAL HEALTH HOSPITAL,

POSSIBLE ACTIONS MAY FOLLOW. >> OKAY.

PERFECT. THANK YOU.

PERFECT, THANK YOU GUYS. SO WE'RE OPENING THE WORKSHOP, AND WHAT IS THE INTENT IN THE ROADMAP BEHIND THIS EFFORT IS I LEARNED IN COLLEGE THAT MLA FORMATTING IN ENGLISH, WHICH IS TELL 'EM WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO TELL 'EM, TELL 'EM, AND TELL 'EM WHAT YOU TOLD 'EM. SO I WANT FOLKS TO UNDERSTAND WHAT WE'RE DOING AND THE ROADMAP, SO I WILL SAY IT NOW.

INTRODUCTION IS WHAT WE'LL DO. WE'LL GIVE INTRODUCTION, AND THEN WE'LL TAKE COMMENTS, WRITTEN AND VERBAL, AND THEN MY INTENTION IS TO HAVE ANITA READ A PREPARED STATEMENT AND THEN GO RIGHT TO Q&A TO BE AS EFFICIENT AS POSSIBLE.

MY GOAL IS TO HAVE US WITHOUT ANY FEELING RUSHED, BUT TO HAVE US ALL HEARD IN A TIMELY MANNER AND NOT TAKE THIS THING OUT PAST 45 MINUTES TO AN HOUR TOPS. I VALUE EVERYONE'S TIME AN I'M VERY GRATEFUL FOR THOSE WHO ARE ON TEAMS DIGITALLY AND ON TEAMS WE HAVE ANDREA RICHARDSON, THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF BLUE BONNET TRAILS COMMUNITY SERVICES.

WE ALSO HAVE TODD CITROEN, C.E.O. OF HILL COUNTRY MENTAL HEALTH AND DEVELOPMENTAL DISABILITIES.

WE WE HAVE THE DEPUTY C.E.O. OF HILL COUNTRY MENTAL HEALTH AND DEVELOPMENT DISABILITIES, AND WE HAVE MR. JACK FRYER, RETIRED ARMY COLONEL WHO WE MET WITH, AND THANKS FOR BEING HERE, SIR.

MILITARY VETERAN, AS A MATTER OF FACT, WE HAVE CHARLIE CAPPEZE HERE. HE'S OUR HILL COUNTRY REPRESENTATIVE OF THIS COURT WHO IS LIKELY TO BE SECRETARY.

AND OTHERS THAT ARE IN THE AUDIENCE.

YOU CAN STATE YOU NAMES. >> [INAUDIBLE]

>> [INAUDIBLE] >> THANK YOU.

>> [INAUDIBLE] >> BEAUTIFUL.

AND TEXAS STATE UNIVERSITY IS HERE, COUNSELING DEPARTMENT.

I WANT THE THANK EVERYONE FOR BEING HERE.

>> JUST IN CASE, I KNOW WE HAD AN ISSUE LAST WEEK, IF WE HAVE FOLKS ON TEAMS WHO NEED TO SPEAK, CAN WE GO AHEAD AND MAKE SURE WE HAVE A MIC THAT WORKS SO WE CAN HEAR THEM?

>> THAT'S A GOOD IDEA. IF YOU CAN WORK ON THAT IN THE

MEANTIME. >> I DON'T WANT US SCRAMBLING IN

THE MIDDLE. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH.

WE HAVE HAD PHONE CONVERSATIONS. NOW WE GET THE SEE EACH OTHER KIND OF FACE TO FACE. THANK YOU SO MUCH.

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FOR THE VIEWING PUBLIC -- I'M SORRY.

GO AHEAD. >> [INAUDIBLE]

>> THANK YOU SO MUCH. WHEN YOU DIDN'T GET UP EARLIER, I THOUGHT MAYBE YOU WERE STANDING BY.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THAT. I APPRECIATE IT.

AND SO I WANT FOLKS TO UNDERSTAND THAT WE HAVE TWO HUGE, HUGE ORGANIZATIONS ON TEAMS RIGHT HERE RIGHT NOW.

TEXAS, HILL COUNTRY DEVELOPMENTAL, MENTAL HEALTH AND DEVELOPMENTAL DISABILITIES ALONG WITH BLUE BONNET IS THEY ARE BOTH HUGE MULTICOUNTY ORGANIZATIONS THAT HELP MANAGE OUR MENTAL THE E. I'M SO GRATEFUL THEY'RE HERE.

SO WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO NOW IS WOULD YOU LIKE THE READ YOUR

COMMENTS REALLY QUICK? >> YES, I WILL.

THE FIRST IS FROM DR. TONY WATT, PROFESSOR AND CHAIR OF SOCIOLOGY AT TEXAS STATE. SHE WRITES, TO WHOM IT MAY CONCERN, I AM WRITING IN SUPPORT OF THE PROPOSAL TO BRING AN INTEGRATED MENTAL HEALTH CARE FACILITY TO HAYS COUNTY.

I HAVE BEEN CONDUCTING RESEARCH ON MENTAL HEALTH FOR 25 YEARS, AND EVALUATING INTEGRATED MENTAL HEALTH INTERVENTIONS FOR 15 YEARS. THE RESEARCH LETTER MEANS MY OWN WORK PROVIDES CLEAR AND CONSISTENT EVIDENCE OF THE BENEFITS OF A COLLABORATIVE, INTEGRATED MODEL OF MENTAL HEALTH CARE. DAVID'S FOUNDATION CONDUCTED COMMUNITY MENTAL HEALTH NEEDS ASSESSMENTS FOR HAYS COUNTY IN 2013, 2016, AND 2019. I WAS A RESEARCHER ON THIS 2016 STUDY. I HAVE PROVIDED A BRIEF TWO-PAGE SUMMARY OF THE KEY FINDINGS FROM THESE ASSESSMENTS.

ALL OF THESE STUDIES DOCUMENT A NEED FOR ADDITIONAL MENTAL HEALTH AND SUBSTANCE ABUSE SERVICES IN HAYS COUNTY.

THEY CALL FOR INTEGRATED CARE SPECIFICALLY.

THE ASSESSMENTS ALSO PROVIDE DATA INDICATING THAT HAYS COUNTY HAVE RELATIVELY POOR MENTAL HEALTH COMPARED TO THE REST OF THE STATE. FOR EXAMPLE, THE SUICIDE RATE FOR HAYS COUNTY IS DOUBLE THE STATE AVERAGE.

THIS INDICATES AN URGENT NEED TO ADDRESS THE UNMET MENTAL HEALTH NEEDS OF COUNTY RESIDENTS. THE VISION IS TO CONSTRUCT A MENTAL HEALTH CARE FACILITY CAPABLE OF ADDRESSING THE WIDE RANGE OF MENTAL HEALTH DISORDERS AFFECTING THE HAYS COUNTY COMMUNITY. THE FACILITY WOULD ASSIST THOSE WITH DISORDERS SUCH AS DEPRESSION, BIPOLAR, SCHIZOPHRENIA ADDICTION, P.T.S.D., INTELLECTUAL DISABILITIES AN DEMENTIA, ALL MENTAL DISORDERS DEFINED UNDER DIAGNOSTIC AND STATISTICAL MANUAL OF MENTAL DISORDERS.

THE INTENT IS TO PROVIDE A HOLISTIC CONTINUUM OF CARE THAT MOVES BEYOND THE NARROW MODEL THAT TYPICALLY CHARACTERIZES TREATMENT. THE FACILITY WOULD PROVIDE IN-PATIENT HOSPITALIZATIONS, OUTPATIENT TREATMENT COUNSELING, A MENTAL HEALTH DIVERSION COURT, COMMUNITY PATIENT CAREGIVER EDUCATION, AND TRAINING RESEARCH OPPORTUNITY FOR TEXAS STATE STUDENTS. I UNDERSTAND THAT AS AN ACADEMIC I AM REMOVED FROM THE REAL WORLD CHALLENGES OF IMPLEMENTING THIS PROPOSAL. HOWEVER, BEFORE I BECAME A SOCIOLOGY PROFESSOR, I HAD A CAREER IN BUSINESS.

I HOLD MARKETING DEGREE, AN MBA, AN I WORKED IN MARKETING AND ADVERTISING FOR SEVERAL YEARS. THAT FIELD TAUGHT ME THE IMPORTANCE OF CONCEPTS SUCH AS RETURN ON INVESTMENT AND OPPORTUNITY COSTS . CONSEQUENTLY, I WOULD NOT RECOMMEND AN INTERVENTION IF I DID NOT THINK IT WAS AN EFFICIENT USE OF FUNDS, AN INVESTMENT THAT PRODUCED MORE BENEFITS THAN COSTS. RESEARCH HAS CONCLUSIVELY REVEALED THAT PROVIDING MENTAL HEALTH SUBSTANCE ABUSE SERVICES ULTIMATELY REDUCES COSTS IN OTHER AREAS.

MENTAL HEALTH DISORDERS CONTRIBUTE TO UNNECESSARY E.VISITS, INCREASED HOMELESSNESS AND RAISE INCARCERATION RATES.

MY OWN RESEARCH REVEALS THAT MOST CHILDREN WHO ARE PLACED IN FOSTER CARE ARE THERE BECAUSE THEIR CAREGIVERS HAVE UNTREATED OR POORLY MANAGED INTELLECTUAL DISABILITIES, MENTAL ILLNESSES, AND/OR SUBSTANCE ABUSE DISORDERS.

ON A PERSONAL NOTE, MY MOTHER HAD DEMENTIA.

DESPITE ALL OF MY EDUCATION, I COULD NOT FIND ANYONE TO HELP HER. WE HIRED AND FIRED TWO HOME HEALTH AIDS BECAUSE THEY KNEW NOTHING ABOUT DEMENTIA.

I HAVE SINCE LEARNED THAT TEXAS REQUIRES MORE TRAINING TO BECOME A BARBER THAN TO BE AN ELDER CAREGIVER.

DESPITE ALL OF THE EXISTING CHALLENGES I AM OPTIMISTIC THAT WE CAN FIND COST-EFFECTIVE SOLUTIONS.

ONE WAY IS TO DEVELOP AN INNOVATIVE FACILITY THAT AVOIDS DUPLICATION OF EFFORT, PROMOTES LONG-TERM HEALTH, RATHER THAN SHORT-TERM CRISIS MANAGEMENT, AND UTILIZES THE EXISTING HUMAN RESOURCES IN HAYS COUNTY. THIS TYPE OF SOLUTION WILL REQUIRE AN INITIAL INVESTMENT, BUT THERE WILL UNDOUBTEDLY BE A RETURN ON INVESTMENT IN TERMS OF COST SAVING FOR PUBLIC EXPENDITURES. FINALLY, WHILE IT CAN'T BE

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QUANTIFIED, I HOPE YOU WILL ALSO CONSIDER THE POTENTIAL BENEFITS OF IMPROVED QUALITY OF LIFE FOR HAYS COUNTY RESIDENTS SUFFERING FROM MENTAL HEALTH DISORDERS AND A FAMILY MEMBER CURRENTLY STRUGGLING TO FIND HEALTH FOR THEM.

TONI WATTS, PH.D. SHE HAS A 1.5-PAGE RESEARCH

ATTACHED. >> LET'S PUT IT IN THE RECORD.

>> I HAVE THREE MORE. >> OKAY.

>> YES, I DO. THE NEXT IS FROM MELISSA DERRICK WHO WRITES, I WILL BE TOO BUSY PREPARING FOR OUR 2:45 P.M. CALL TIME FOR A CITY COUNCIL MEETING ON TUESDAY TO ATTEND THE WORKSHOP, BUT I WANT TO EXPRESS MY ENTHUSIASTIC SUPPORT OF THE MENTAL HEALTH HOSPITAL THAT WILL BE DISCUSSED.

AS A PARENT OF A CHILD WHO HAS NEURODIVERGENCE, I CAN ATTEST TO THE LACK OF AVAILABLE MENTAL HEALTH RESOURCES THAT HAVE ALWAYS PLAGUED SAN MARCOS. WITH SUCH A LACK OF RESOURCES, I HAVE WITNESSED MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES GO UNCHECKED UNTIL ADULTHOOD. ADDITIONALLY, WE HAVE HAD A SHARP INCREASE IN SUICIDE AMONGST OUR YOUTH THAT MUST BE ADDRESSED ALONG WITH UNTREATED P.T.S.D. AMONG OUR VETERANS AND OTHERS. THIS HOSPITAL ALSO COULD HELP US ADDRESS THE UNDERLYING ISSUES THAT MANY OF OUR CURRENTLY UNHOUSED NEIGHBORS HAVE EXPERIENCED EARLY ENOUGH TO TREAT THEIR ISSUES, STABILIZE THEM, AND KEEP THEM FROM BECOMING UNHOUSED IN THE FIRST PLACE.

THIS WOULD REALLY TAKE SOME PRESSURE OFF OUR EXISTING SOCIAL SERVICES, FMPD, AND SANTA ROSAS, AS WELL.

I APPRECIATE YOUR LEADERSHIP, MELISSA DERRICK, CITY COUNCIL MEMBER, SAN MARCOS. FROM ERIKA GALLARDO, HAYS COUNTY CHILD PROTECTION BOARD. SHE WRITES, "PLEASE ACCEPT THIS LETTER AS A FORMAL LETTER OF RECOMMENDATION IN SUPPORT OF THE HAYS COUNTY MENTAL HEALTH HOSPITAL.

WE ARE THE HAYS COUNTY CHILD PROTECTIVE BOARD.

AS WE SUPPORT THE NEEDS OF CHILDREN IN DFPF CARE, WE UNDERSTAND THERE IS A NEED FOR MENTAL HEALTH SERVICES IN HAYS COUNTY. THE HAYS COUNTY CHILD PROTECTIVE BOARD IS AN ALL-VOLUNTEER ORGANIZATION THAT BEGAN IN 1978 TO WORK WITH THE CITIZENS OF HAYS COUNTY, THE HAYS COUNTY COMMISSIONERS COURT, AND THE TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF FAMILY AND PROTECTIVE SERVICES. OUR MISSION IS TO ENHANCE THE LIVES OF CHILDREN FROM FAMILIES IN CRISIS BY PROVIDING SUPPORT AND SERVICES NOT FUNDED BY THIS STATE.

EACH MONTH THE BOARD MEMBERS MEET TO CONSIDER THE EMERGENCY NEEDS OF CHILDREN WHO ARE IN THE CARE OF CHILD PROTECTIVE SERVICES BECAUSE OF ABUSE AND NEGLECT.

THE BOARD MEETS THESE CHILDREN'S EMERGENCY NEEDS AND FUNDS OTHER NEEDS NOT MET BY THIS STATE. SOMETIMES THIS INCLUDES MENTAL HEALTH SERVICES. WE SEE THE UNMET MENTAL HEALTH NEEDS THAT ARE IDENTIFIED IN REQUESTS THAT THE BOARD SUPPORTS. WE WOULD LOVE TO SEE THAT ALL ADOLESCENTS AND ADULTS OF HAYS COUNTY WOULD HAVE ACCESS TO MENTAL HEALTH IN PATIENT AND OUTPATIENT HOSPITALIZATION AS AVAILABLE THROUGH THE HAYS COUNTY MENTAL HEALTH HOSPITAL.

AS A BOARD THAT IS COMMITTED TO PROVIDING EQUITABLE SUPPORTS INCLUDING HEALTH WITH CLINICAL MENTAL HEALTH SERVICES TO YOUTH AND DUMBS IN HAYS COUNTY, WE STRONGLY RECOMMEND THE COMMUNITY MAKING THE MENTAL HEALTH OF OUR COMMUNITY A PRIORITY.

AND ED TUNY WRITES, "JUDGE, ALTHOUGH MY AGE AND CURRENT PHYSICAL RESTRICTIONS PREVENT ME FROM BEING AS AGGRESSIVE IN MY ADVOCACY FOR PERSONS LIVING WITH PERSISTENT AND SERIOUS BIOLOGICAL MENTAL ILLNESS, AS IN THE PAST 30 PLUS YEARS, I AM STILL VERY MUCH ON BOARD WITH YOUR EFFORTS IN BRINGING A MENTAL HEALTH HOSPITAL TO THE SAN MARCOS AREA.

DURING MY ACTIVE YEARS IN ADVOCACY, I HAVE SEEN THE NEEDS OF COMMUNITY CARE AND MENTAL ILLNESS INCREASE MORE THAN EIGHT-FOLD. THIS STATE JUST CAN'T KEEP UP WITH NEEDED FUNDING. SO HILL COUNTRY MHDD AND THEIR CLINIC ARE DOING A REMARKABLE JOB, BUT THEY JUST CAN'T KEEP UP WITH THE DEMAND FOR SERVICES. OUR HCSO AND FMPD WITH THEIR MENTAL HEALTH OFFICERS ARE A GREAT PLUS, BUT EVEN THEIR FUNDING IS INADEQUATE. I FILLY SUPPORT AND APPRECIATE THE EFFORTS YOU ARE MAKING AND OFFER WHATEVER HELP I CAN IN DEVELOPING A PLAN AND FURTHER INTO THE HOSPITAL PROJECT.

SINCERELY ED KENNY, PAST PRESIDENT, FORMER MEMBER AND PRESIDENT, SCHIVE COMMUNITY CENTER."

>> THAT'S YOUR LAST WRITTEN DOUMENT?

>> YES. >> OKAY.

WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO NOW IS OFFER OUR VERY WONDERFUL GROUP ON THE DIGITAL FRONT AN OPPORTUNITY TO SAY SOMETHING IF YOU DON'T WANT TO THAT'S OKAY. BUT I WANT TO DO THAT, IF YOU WANT THE RAISE YOUR HAND, I GUESS THAT MIGHT BE THE EASIEST WAY. WE'LL LET YOU GO.

OTHERWISELY LET A FEW FROM THE AUDIENCE SPEAK.

DOES ANYONE WANT TO SAY ANYTHING?

SHOW OF HANDS? >> THAT'S TODD.

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>> TODD, WAS THAT YOU TRYING TO SAY SOMETHING?

>> PUT THE MICROPHONE BY THERE. >> WHILE WE GET THAT CLEARED UP, I'M GOING TO SEE IF THERE IS SOMEONE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WOULD LIKE THE SPEAK UP ON ANYTHING THAT WE'RE DESCRIBING

RIGHT NOW AND DISCUSSING. >> MR. CAMPIZI AND THEN

MR. PRYOR. >> THANK YOU FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY. MY NAME IS CHACIAL CAMPIZI.

FOR THE SECOND YEAR I REPRESENT THE HAYS COUNTY COMMISSIONERS COURT AS A BOARD MEMBER OF HILL COUNTRY MENTAL HEALTH DEVELOPMENTAL DISABILITIES. I SOMETIMES FOR LUNCH HAVE RAISIN BRAN WITH MILK AND AFTER THIS I USUALLY TALK TOO MUCH.

THAT'S WHAT I HAD FOR LUNCH TODAY, BUT I'M GOING TO LIMIT MY COMMENTS. I SAT AT THE TABLE WITH A BELL OF RAISIN BRAN AND A PAD AND A PENCIL.

AND I COMPUTED OUT HOW MUCH SAVINGS IN ONE YEAR THE COUNTY CAN RECEIVE FROM HAVING PLACE THAT HAS 48 DEAD.

I LEARNED IN A MEETING LAST YEAR AT HILL COUNTRY THAT OUR AGENCY HILL COUNTRY CAN PROVIDE ONE BED FOR $150 A DAY LESS THAN PRIVATE HOSPITALS DO. 48 BEDS TIMES 150 A DAY TIMES 365 DAYS A YEAR MEANS THAT IN ONE YEAR OUR COUNTY WILL SAVE $2,628,000. I SUBMIT TO YOU THAT THE PRICE TAG FOR THE NEW HOSPITAL IN UVALDE FOR 48 BEDS IS GOING TO BE JUST A LITTLE OVER $25 MILLION.

WITH A SAVINGS ANNUALLY BY HAYS COUNTY HAVING ITS OWN BEDS, IT'S OWN FACILITY, IN TEN YEARS THERE WILL BE A SAVINGS IN EXCESS OF $26 MILLION. I SUBMIT TO YOU ALSO THAT TEN YEARS FROM NOW, THE PRICE OF CONSTRUCTION WILL BE DOUBLE WHAT IT IS TODAY. SO THE COUNTY CAN SAVE ENOUGH MONEY IN TEN YEARS TO ADD AT LEAST ANOTHER 24 BEDS TO THE FACILITY WHERE THERE ARE 48 BEDS AVAILABLE.

I WANT YOU TO BEAR IN MIND THIS IS MY LAST COMMENT.

RESEARCH BY PSYCHOLOGISTS AND OTHER EXPERTS IN OTHER FIELDS HAS LED THE LEADERSHIP IN OUR COUNTRY AND PEOPLE WHO HAVE A LOT OF SAY-SO TO COME TO THE CONCLUSION THAT THAT TO CARE FOR PEOPLE WHO HAVE PHYSICAL DISABILITIES, WE MUST ALSO CARE FOR THEIR MENTAL HEALTH. VICE VERSA.

FOR THOSE PEOPLE WHO HAVE FAILING HEALTH, WE MUST CARE, AS WELL, FOR THEIR MENTAL HEALTH. EACH ONE OF US IS A TOTALITY WHEN OUR MIND STARTS FAILING, OUR BODY STARTS TO GO.

WHEN OUR BODY STARTS FAILING, OUR MIND STARTS TO GO.

IN FISCAL YEAR 2022, HILL COUNTRY IS GOING TO ENTER INTO A NEW SERVICE METHOD. WE'RE GOING TO BE REQUIRED BY THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT TO ATTEND NOT ONLY TO THE PSYCHOLOGICAL NEEDS OF PEOPLE. BUT ANYBODY WHO BECOMES A CLIENT OF HILL COUNTRY WILL ALSO RECEIVE THE SERVICES OF MEDICAL PROFESSIONAL, INCLUDING A MEDICAL DOCTOR.

THE NEED IS GREAT. IT'S GOING TO GET LARGER.

SO I ASK MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT TO VOTE YES THAT YOU PROCEED WITH A STUDY TO SEE THE FEASIBILITY OF A MENTAL HEALTH HOSPITAL IN THIS COUNTY. THERE'S A PRECEDENT, THREE OF THE FOUR COMMISSIONERS ARE MEMBERS OF THE REPUBLICAN PARTY.

THE LEADERSHIP FOR A MENTAL HEALTH FACILITY IN NEIGHBORING CARAMEL COUNTY IS COMMISSIONER ECCLESTON, SHE'S A REPUBLICAN.

SHE HAS BEEN ON THE COMMISSIONER'S BOARD FOR 1 YEARS. AND SHE IS THE PERSON PUSHING

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FOR CA MEL COUNTY TO BEEF UP THEIR SERVICES.

THIS IS NOT A PARTISAN ISSUE. THIS IS AN ISSUE THAT REQUIRES A RESPONSE FROM PEOPLE WHO HAVE THEIR EYES OPEN.

>> THANK YOU. MANY PRYOR, IF YOU WAIT ONE TINY SECOND, I WILL SEE IF TODD WOULD BE INTERESTED AND READY TO SPEAK

SINCE WE GOT IT WORKING. >> OKAY.

CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW? >> WE CAN HEAR YOU PERFECTLY NOW. THANK YOU, SIR.

>> GREAT. I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO RESPOND TODAY. I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO MEET WITH THE JUDGE LAST WEEK. WIN REGARDS TO THE POTENTIAL PSYCHIATRIC FACILITY. I JUST WANTED TO PIGGYBACK ON SOME OF MR. CAMPIZI'S COMMENTS. A SERIOUS LOOK AT SUCH A FACILITY IS NECESSARY. IN THE PAST THREE FISCAL YEARS, I'LL GO BACK TO 2019, BECAUSE OUR CENSUS WAS SOME WHAT REDUCED, ASSOCIATED WITH THE COVID-19 CAPACITY OF OUR CRISIS STABILIZATION UNIT. WE SERVE FROM CASE COUNTY IN 2019, 14 INDIVIDUALS WERE ADMITTED TO OUR CRISIS STABILIZATION UNIT. IN 2021, THE 13 PEOPLE WERE ADMITTED TO PRIVATE PSYCHIATRIC HOSPITAL BEDS TO HAYS COUNTY.

IT IS OUR LARGEST COUNTY IN OUR SERVICE AREA OUT OF OUR 19 COUNTIES, POPULATION-WISE, AND ON AN OUTPATIENT BASIS, IT MAKES UP BETWEEN COMEL AND HAYS COUNTY OVER ABOUT 50% OF OUR SERVICES THAT WE PROVIDE FOR INDIVIDUALS. SO THE DATA STRONGLY SUPPORTS A FORMALIZED LOOK AT SUCH A FACILITY.

CONVERSATION. >> THANK YOU, TODD.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AND ANDREA OR LANDON, WOULD YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO SAY AT THIS TIME?

>> THANK YOU, LANDON. JUDGE, THANK YOU FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY. I'M ANDREA RICHARDSON.

WE'RE THE SISTERS HERE. FOR OUR AREA, THE HOSPITAL SITUATION IS THAT WILLIAMS COUNTY, THE COUNTY -- [INAUDIBLE] WE ALL HAVE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO PARTNER WITH YOU. AND OUR GOAL IS TO TRY THE MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S AVAILABILITY FOR THE SISTERS.

SO WE'RE EXCITED THAT WE MIGHT BE A PARTNER FOR ADULTS AND CHILDREN TO RECEIVE SERVICES. THANK YOU, JUDGE.

>> THANK YOU, ANDREA. CAN YOU REPEAT, BECAUSE YOU WERE BREAKING UP A BIT, CAN YOU REPEAT HOW MANY COUNTIES YOUR

BLUE BONNET FOOTPRINT SERVICES. >> YES, SIR, WE SERVE EIGHT

CENTRAL TEXAS COUNTIES. >> 1-8.

>> EIGHT. YES, SIR.

>> EIGHT. BEAUTIFUL.

AND LANDON -- THANK YOU SO MUCH, AN DEGREEA.

THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. I KNOW YOU'RE ALL SO BUSY.

LANDON, DID YOU WANT TO ADD ANYTHING?

>> YES, SIR. THANK YOU.

I'D JUST LIKE TO SAY HILL COUNTRY, WE WORK TOGETHER WITH OUR COMMUNITIES OVER MANY YEARS, AND THE PARTNERSHIPS OF MULTIPLE COUNTIES SHARE THE SAME COMMON GOAL WITH WITH THE COUNTY.

WE FULLY SUPPORT THE GOAL OF ALTERNATIVE PRIVATE SERVICE.

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THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, LANDON.

THANK YOU. AND MR. PRYOR, WOULD YOU LIKE TO TAKE THE PODIUM. AND WHILE MR. PRYOR REACHES THE PODIUM, THE GOAL OF THIS IS TO HAVE US ON THE COMMISSIONS' BOARD OFFICIALLY GREEN LIGHT THIS ASSESSMENT.

THAT'S THE GOAL WITH GATHERING OUT, AND PROFESSIONAL PERSPECTIVES. SO WE CAN HAVE THIS COMPREHENSIVE NEEDS ASSESSMENT FOR THE CENTER FOR MENTAL HEALTH, EDUCATION, AND RESEARCH, WITH A DEDICATED V.A. WING.

THAT'S THE WHOLE PURPOSE OF THIS IS TO ASK QUESTIONS, WHENEVER WE NEED, SO THAT WE CAN COME UP WITH SAY, OKAY, LET'S DO THIS ASSESSMENT ONCE AND FOR ALL. THAT'S THE AIM, MR. PRYOR.

BY THE WAY OF CONTEXT, I SERVE JUST LESS THAN 30 YEARS ACTIVE DUTY, I WAS AN AIRBORNE INFANTRYMAN.

I SPENT THREE TOURS OF DUTY IN VIETNAM.

I STARTED OFF IN SPECIAL OPS AND THEN INFRANTY THERE.

I WAS IN DW GRENADA, P PANDEMICD DESERT STORM ONE.

THAT WAS MY ERA. I HAVE 29 AMONGST OF LEADING SOLDIER CENTERS DIRECT COMBAT. I TOOK ALOOK AT A LOT OF STUFF IN THE V.A. AT WHAT THE NEEDS WERE.

AND BECAUSE I WANTED TO START A NO-PROFIT.

I WANTED NOT TO REPEAT STUFF THAT WAS ALREADY BEING DONE VERY WELL IN THE COUNTRY. SO THE TWO BIG NEEDS THAT I FOUND WERE IN THE AREA OF POST-TRAUMATIC STRESS AND TRAUMATIC BRAIN INJURY. SO VERY BRIEFLY I WOULD LIKE TO GO THROUGH KIND OF THE SCENARIO OF WHAT HAPPENS AND WHAT LEADS PEOPLE TO MEET IN THESE KINDS OF FACILITIES.

NOW I ALSO LIKE THE POINT OUT THAT ABOUT 33 TO 35% OF VETERANS ARE PEOPLE WHO NEED HELP IN THESE AREAS.

THE OTHER POPULATION NEEDS HELP. AND THE WAY THIS GOES, AND I THINK WE'RE DIRECTING THIS IN THE MILITARY HOSPITALS, BUT THEY TEND TO LEAVE A SOLDIER COME OUT WITH A BAG FULL OF DRUGS.

SO THEY COME OUT OF THIS SERVICE ADDICTED TO PRESCRIPTION DRUGS.

THEY COME HOME, AND THEY USUALLY STAY WITH A FRIEND OR THEIR PARENTS TO START WITH. THEY DON'T HAVE PLACE OF THEIR OWN. THEY'RE ACTUALLY HOMELESS, AND THEY'RE HOMELESS COMING OUT OF THE SERVICE.

THEY GET BACK HOME AND THEY FIND OUT THAT THINGS HAVE CHANGED.

THEIR BEST FRIEND FROM HIGH SCHOOL IS MARRIED AND HAS TWO KIDS. IT'S A DIFFERENT WORLD FOR THEM.

THEY DON'T SEEM TO FIT IN. NOBODY AFTER THE INITIAL HOME COMING... THEY JUST DON'T SEEM TO FIT.

THEY CAN'T GET A JOB. THEY'RE ON UNEMPLOYMENT.

REMEMBER, POST-TRAUMATIC STRESS DISORDER IS ANXIETY.

IT CAN BE DEALT WITH FAIRLY EASILY, BUT IF IT'S NOT DEALT WORK IT GOES INTO OTHER THINGS, DEPRESSION, ALL SORTS OF MANICNESS, SO ON AND SO FORTH. SO THEY GET -- ALL OF A SUDDEN, THEY'RE OUT ON THE STREET. THEY'RE REALLY HOMELESS.

NOW THEY'RE TURNING TO ALCOHOL FOR SELF-MEDICATION.

NOW THEY'RE INTO ILLEGAL DRUGS. THEY START WANDERING.

AND IF THEY'RE LUCKY, THEY BREAK THE LAW, GET ARRESTED.

BECAUSE IT SAVES THEIR LIFE. IF NOT, THEY WANDER, AND THEY END UP... AND MOST OF THEM THAT MAKE IT, THEY SELF-HEAL THEMSELVES. THEY FOUND A FRIEND, AN ACTIVITY, OR SOMETHING THAT HELPS THEM.

SO THEY REALLY NEED THIS KIND OF A FACILITY LOCALLY, NOT THAT THEY CAN'T GO TO THE V.A. OR THERE'S OTHER OPTIONS TO THEM, BUT THE FACT THAT THEY DON'T HAVE THE TRAVEL GETS IN YOUR AREA IS HERE. IT'S USEFUL, IT'S GOT TRAINED CLINICIANS TO HELP THEM, AND MAYBE IT HAS A GOOD TELEMEDICINE SYSTEM THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY. SO THEY DON'T REALLY EVEN HAVE TO TRAVEL THROUGH SOME OF THE STUFF.

THEY COULD BE IN THAT TELEMEDICINE NETWORK.

AND ONE OF THE THINGS IN THE TELEMEDICINE PIECE, I THINK YOU PROBABLY HAVE SOMETHING ALREADY IN THE COUNTY, BUT YOU GOT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT TALKS TO THE V.A. SYSTEM AND THE OTHER SYSTEM. AND THIS WOULD LEVERAGE A LOT OF THINGS, BUT TO HAVE A LOCAL FACILITY TREAT THESE KINDS OF THINGS WOULD BE EXTREMELY BENEFICIAL TO THE VETERAN POPULATION. AN I WOULD CERTAINLY ENCOURGE

YOU TO CONTINUE TO PURSUE THIS. >> THANK YOU, MR. PRYOR.

THANK YOU SO MUCH. >> THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE.

>> THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE. DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FOR MR. PRYOR? WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO IF THERE ARE NO OTHER COMMENTS FROM THE FOLKS IN THE PUBLIC IS I'D LIKE

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TO GIVE MISS ANITA COLLINS FROM THE COUNTY JUDGE'S OFFICE AN OPPORTUNITY TO GIVE HER STATEMENT AND THEN WE'LL HAVE A QUICK Q&A AND WRAP THIS THING UP.

>> ANITA COLLINS. OFFICERS HAYS COUNTY JUDGE, YOU HEARD MY PRESENTATION BEFORE. THERE IS A MENTAL HEALTH CRISIS IN HAYS COUNTY. WE KNOW THAT.

SUICIDE RATES ARE RISING. WE KNOW THAT.

IN SOME CASES HAYS COUNTY DOING WORSE THAN THE STATE OF TEXAS.

FOR EXAMPLE,ING THE SUICIDE RATE IN HAYS COUNTY IS TWICE THE STATE RATE. I'M NOT TELLING YOU ANYTHING I HAVEN'T ALREADY HEARD. SO WE HAVE SOME NEEDS.

POLICE ARE OFTEN THE ONES WHO MUST RESPOND.

THERE IS A DISCOORDINATED SYSTEM LET ME TELL YOU ABOUT A PHONE CALL I RECEIVED FROM 2019. A WOMAN CALLED ABOUT HER SON WHO IS SUICIDAL. SHE CALLED ME AT THE COUNTY JUDGE'S OFFICE BECAUSE SHE WAS OUT OF OPTIONS.USC-JJSC1029

>> HE WAS HURTING HIMSELF SHE WAS TOLD HE HAD TO BE IN THE ACT BEFORE ANYONE WOULD RESPOND.

FINALLY SHE SAW A LIVE FACEBOOK VIDEO OF HIM STANDING ON THE LEDGE OF HIS APARTMENT BUILDING SO SHE CALLED THE POLICE DEPARTMENT WERE ABLE TO TALK HIM OFF THE LEDGE IT SHOULDN'T COME TO THIS INSURANCE COME TO A SOCIAL MEDIA VIDEO OF HIM IN THE ACT OF COMMITTING SUICIDE TO GET HIM THE HELP THAT HE NEEDS. HE WAS HOSPITALIZED TWICE, BUT WITH NO BEDS AVAILABLE IN THE LOCAL AREA HE WAS SENT TO SAN ANTONIO TAKING THEM AWAY FROM HIS SUPPORT SYSTEM, HIS FAMILY.

HE CAME HOME SHORTLY AFTER BUT BECAME ACTIVELY SUICIDAL AGAIN SHE CALLED 9-1-1 HE LEFT IN AN AMBULANCE BUT WHEN HE ARRIVED HE HAD ANOTHER SUICIDAL EPISODE AND WAS ARRESTED NOW FACING A FELONY CHARGE ON TOP OF HIS MENTAL ILLNESS.

THE ONLY WAY THAT HE WOULD GET THE MENTAL HEALTH CARE HE SO DESPERATELY NEEDED. SHE TELLS US WHAT WE ALREADY KNOW, THE SYSTEM FALLS SHORT. MANY STORIES LIKE THESE WE KNOW THERE IS A NEED WE KNOW THERE ARE LIMITED SERVICES, A LACK OF CRISIS IN PATIENT SERVICES WE KNOW A LACK OF LONG-TERM AND FOLLOW-UP CARE TRANSPORTATION BARRIERS AND PARTICULAR NEED FOR SERVICES FOR CHILDREN, YOUTH, AND THE ELDERLY.

INDICATES MENTAL HEALTH SERVICES NOT KEPT UP WITH THE POPULATION GROWTH ALONG THE I-35 CORRIDOR AND HAYS COUNTY IS PROVIDING A SOLUTION. IN PATIENT SERVICES FOR SERIOUS MENTAL ILLNESS AND ABUSE, MENTAL HEALTH EDUCATION, PATIENT NAVIGATION, CASE MANAGEMENT, TRANSPORTATION SYSTEM. ABLE TO OBTAIN SEVERAL NEEDS ASSESSMENT STUDIES. THEY TOUCH ON THE NEEDS OF BEHAVIORAL HEALTH NOE ARE A COMPREHENSIVE ASSESSMENT FOCUSED ON MENTAL HEALTH NEEDS THIS IS WHAT WE NEED TO MOVE FORWARD. WE CAN PLAN ON A 48 BED FACILITY. IS THAT ALL WE NEED? THE NEEDS ASSESSMENT WILL ANSWER THAT THE ULTIMATE GOAL IS TO DESIGN, PLAN AND DEVELOPMENT IN THE GRADED CENTER FOR MENTAL HEALTH CARE, EDUCATION, RESEARCH WITH THE PA WING, MEET THE MENTAL HEALTH NEEDS OF OUR COMMUNITY.

A CENTER THAT WILL INCLUDE A COURT, MILITARY VETERANS WING, OPEN SPACE THAT WILL HEAL OUR COMMUNITY.

THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT STATEMENT. SO COMMISSIONERS I KNOW YOU ALL

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SUPPORTED THIS EFFORT SO THE PUSH TODAY IS TO HAVE A MOTION TO FUND THIS RESEARCH FOR THE RFQ WITH THE BUDGET NOT TO EXCEED WHAT WE HAVE ALREADY ALLOCATED AND GET THIS IN MOTION THAT IS WHAT I HOPE TO ACCOMPLISH TODAY.

>> I WILL MAKE THAT MOTION. >> SECOND.

>> BEAUTIFUL THANK YOU SO MUCH COMMISSIONERS.

>> I APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS AND YOU ARE RIGHT, WE ALSO HEARD THIS MANY TIMES AND JUDGE, YOU ARE CORRECT I THINK YOU HAVE HEARD FROM OUR COURT THAT WE DO SUPPORT IT WE KNOW WE NEED TO MOVE FORWARD AT LEAST WITH THE ASSESSMENT AND THEN YOU KNOW SEE WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE THEN PLAN ON WHAT THE NEXT STEP IS AFTER THAT. I GUESS ONE OF MY QUESTIONS THOUGH IS, DID WE REACH OUT TO ANY OF THE HOSPITALS TO GET THEIR INPUT? I KNOW THEY DEALT WITH IT I KNOW IT IS MORE EXPENSIVE TO PUT SOMEBODY IN ONE OF THE HOSPITAL BEDS AND IT WOULD BE FOR THIS FACILITY DID WE REACH OUT TO THEM I KNOW THAT THEY HAVE BEEN IN COMMUNICATION ALSO, SOMETHING THAT THEY DEAL WITH JUST TO GET THE PERSPECTIVE ON WHAT THEY ARE DOING, WHAT OUR NEED IS THIS MAY BE SOMETHING THAT WE DO AS WE DO THIS INVESTMENT, I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT THAT WE GET PERSPECTIVES FROM AS MANY PEOPLE AS WE CAN AND GET AS MUCH INFORMATION.E NEED MORE THAN YOU KNOW WHAT WE ARE THINKING ABOUT.

ANYWAY.> I HAVE REACHED OUT, I HAVE SPOKEN ONE OF THE CONVERSATIONS, WHO WAS GOING TO RUN THIS FACILITY ONCE IT IS BUILT. I APPRECIATE THE LONGEVITY AND THOUGHT PROCESS. I DID REACH OUT THE SUM OF OUR HOSPITAL LEADERSHIP. WE HAVE OPTIONS.

ALSO REACHED OUT TO OTHERS WE HAVE OPTIONS OF WHO WILL ACTUALLY RUN IT. ROADMAPS TO CAPTURE STATE AND FEDERAL LONG-TERM FINANCING. WE HAVE MANY OPTIONS I BELIEVE THIS WILL HELP US TEASE OUT DETAILS HELP US ARTICULATE A ROADMAP SO WE CAN GET THIS COMMUNITY MUCH NEEDED SUPPORT.

>> HAVE HAD MEETINGS WITH THE PARTNERS AROUND THERE, I THINK THEIR SUPPORT TOO THEN WE WILL GET THE TWO GROUPS TOGETHER.

>> THAT IS BEAUTIFUL. WE HAVE THE BUDGET ITEM I THINK WOULD PUT $250,000 IN THERE MUNOT TO EXCEED.

250 IN THE BUDGET. WE HAVE A SECOND.

>> AS WE LOOK AT THIS ASSESSMENT IDENTIFY AND ASSUME LOOKING AT WHAT WE HAVE DONE IN THE PAST IDENTIFY ADDITIONAL AREAS WHERE WE ARE GOING TO NEED CONSULTATION.

ON THE ASSESSMENT I THINK TYING OUR HANDS IF WE SAY $250,000 FOR ALL OF IT IF WE SAY NOT TO EXCEED EXPECTATION I WOULD THINK THOSE WATCHING OUT THERE, GOING TO BE APPLICATIONS THAT MAY COME CLOSE TO THAT I WOULDN'T MIND RESERVING A PORTION THAT FOR LOOKING AT SOME OF THE NEEDS THAT COME OUT OF THIS NEEDS ASSESSMENT. ADDITIONAL NEED TO LOOK AT RESEARCH WITH SPECIFICALLY THE VA, I KNOW A PROCESS A LENGTHY PROCESS YOU HAVE TO GO THROUGH TO CREATE A VA FACILITY.

WE MAY HAVE SOME FEES OR SOME CONSULTING FOR THAT.

AS WE LOOK AT WORKING THROUGH PARTNERSHIPS EITHER WITH UNIVERSITY OR OTHERS THERE COULD BE OTHER THINGS THAT COME OUT OF THAT I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU WOULD CLARIFY THIS BUT I WANT US TO UNDERSTAND THIS $250,000 NUMBER I WOULD HOPE ANYONE LOOKING AT THIS DOES NOT ANTICIPATE THAT IS GOING TO BE WHAT THE OVERALL NUMBER IS. GOING TO NEED TO RESERVE SOME OF THOSE TO LOOK AT SOME OF THE QUESTIONS THAT COME OUT OF THAT

ANALYSIS. >> SO PERFECTLY SAID I FULLY SUPPORT THAT IDEA. I AGREE.

>> I WILL BE QUICK. APPRECIATE EVERYBODY BEING HERE AND OUR PARTNERS. I WOULD HOPE THAT ESPECIALLY HILL COUNTRY AND OUR NEIGHBOR HAS A CHANCE TO GIVE US SOME

[03:50:06]

ADVICE. TO HELP US DEVELOP WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE ALSO HOPE THAT BEYOND THE NEEDS, WHAT SMITH IS MENTIONING. I THINK WE KNOW THE NEED IS THERE, SPECIFIC NEEDS BUT WHAT ARE THE POSSIBLE SOLUTIONS HOW TO RESOLVE SOME OF THESE PROBLEMS AND THE RESULT, IT DOESN'T JUST SHOW US THE NEEDS ALSO HOW WE CAN START WORKING TO ADDRESS THOSE NEEDS. YOU KNOW THE TIME WITH THE COUNTY, HOW LONG IT TAKES FOR AN INDIVIDUAL TO GET HELP, PLENTY OF PEOPLE DEDICATED THEIR LIVES TO THIS NOBODY HAS KEPT UP, THE STATE OF TEXAS NOT KEPT UP WHEN I FIRST GOT TO THE COUNTY YOU COULD GET A BED IN CRISIS STABILIZATION THE NEXT DAY THAT IS NOT POSSIBLE ANYMORE.

A LONG TIME OVERDUE. INDIVIDUALS IN ER ROOMS RIGHT NOW THAT NEED TO BE TREATED IN A DIFFERENT WAY.

SO I THINK ANYTHING WE CAN DO TO DO THAT, MORE THAN JUST CRISIS STABILIZATION. HOW WE PUT THEM TOGETHER.

I APPRECIATE EVERYBODY BEING HERE.

>> THANK YOU SO MUCH. IF YOU WILL.

>> JUDGE, I GUESSED OFF ABOUT THE COMMISSIONER SAID, WHAT MS. COLLINS READ THE MOTHER THAT DID NOT WANT TO BAIL OUT THE SON BECAUSE HE COULD GET THE HELP HE NEEDS.

ONE OF OUR BIG ISSUES IS THAT THEY ARE BEING HOUSED IN OUR JAIL NOT THE PLACE TO GET THE SERVICES THEY NEED.

THAT IS WHERE WE FIND A LOT OF THOSE INDIVIDUALS GOING 2 TO GET SOMETHING TO HELP THEM IN SOME WAY UNTIL WE CAN GET THEM

THE HELP THAT THEY NEED. >> BENEFITS WILL RIPPLE IN MANY WAYS. DOCTOR, PLEASE CALL THE ROLE.

>> YES. >> COMMISSIONER JONES.

>> YES. >> COMMISSIONER SMITH.

>> YES. >> JUDGE.

>> YES. >> THANK YOU EVERYONE FOR BEING HERE AND WITNESSING THIS COURT COME TOGETHER IN SOMETHING SO DESPERATELY NEEDED FOR OUR COMMUNITY THANK YOU ALL.

SUPPORT I CANNOT THANK YOU ENOUGH JUST GRATEFUL.

THAT WAS OUR LAST AGENDA ITEM. WE CONCLUDE THAT.E HAVE

[44. 526 Executive Session pursuant to Sections 551.071 and 551.074 of the Texas Government Code: consultation with counsel and deliberation regarding the positions of the Hays County Fire Marshal and the Hays County Office of Emergency Services Director; and regarding state statutes on Fire Code. Possible discussion and/or action may follow in open court. BECERRA]

ACCOMPLISHED OUR GOAL AND THANK YOU.

A COUPLE OF EMOTIONS IN EXECUTIVE SESSION.

>> THANK YOU. ITEM NUMBER 44 MAKE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE RESIGNATION OF NATHAN AS THE HAYS COUNTY FIRE

MARSHAL THE FIRST MOTION. >> SECOND.

>> A MOTION IN THE SECOND. >> COMMISSIONER JONES.

>> YES. >> COMMISSIONER SMITH.

>> YES. >> COMMISSIONER.

>> YES. >> JUDGE.

>> YES. >> APPOINT THE INTERIM FIRE MARSHAL FOR HIS COUNTY EFFECTIVE IMMEDIATELY AND TO AUTHORIZE THE DIRECTOR OF HUMAN RESOURCES TO IMPLEMENT A COMPENSATION PACKAGE THAT PLACES THE INTERIM FIRE MARSHAL AT THE MINIMUM OF THE GRADE FOR THE FIRE MARSHAL PAY RANGE.

>> PLEASE CALL THE ROLE. >> COMMISSIONER.

>> YES. >> SMITH.

>> YES. >> COMMISSIONER.

>> YES. >> JUDGE.

>> YES.> I WILL MAKE A MOTION WE ADJOURN.

>> SORRY. WE DO NOT HEAR YOU I AM SORRY.

[46. 528 Executive Session pursuant to Sections 551.071 and 551.072 of the Texas Government Code: consultation with counsel and deliberation regarding the purchase, exchange, lease and/or value of real property located on or near Stagecoach Trail in San Marcos, Texas and within Precinct 3. Possible discussion and/or action may follow in open court. SHELL]

>> MOTIONS AT THE END SQUEEZE ONE MORE IN NUMBER 46.

A MOTION AUTHORIZE GENERAL COUNSEL TO MAKE AN OFFER, AGREEMENT FOR ACQUISITION OF PROPERTY.

DISCUSSED IN EXECUTIVE SESSION AUTHOR'S COUNSEL TO RETAIN APPRAISAL SERVICES. TO BE PAID FROM OUR

INFRASTRUCTURE FUND. >> SECOND.

>> UNDERSTAND WE ARE DOING THINGS BECAUSE WE WERE MADE TO DO THEM. PLEASE CALL THE ROLE.

>> COMMISSIONER SMITH. >> YES.

>> YES. >> YES.

>> JUDGE. >> YES.

>> IS THAT EVERYTHING? A MOTION TO

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