Oct 19, 2021 Regular

[Call to Order]

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MORNING TO YOU. I WOULD LIKE TO CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER. WE ARE READY TO GET STARTED, YOU GUYS. READY TO CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER. THIS MORNING'S INVOCATION WILL BE LED BY OUR VERY OWN COMMISSIONER.

COMMISSIONER IJZ. >> DEBBIE INGALSBE: HEAVENLY FATHER, WE LOVE YOU. WE THANK YOU FOR THIS WONDERFUL DAY. WE THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING US TO BE HERE, LORD AND ASK THAT YOU GUIDE OUR PROCEEDINGS TODAY.

THANK YOU FOR THE BEAUTIFUL WEATHER THAT WE HAVE BEEN HAVING AND, LORD, AS WE DEAL WITH THESE ISSUES I JUST ASK THAT THEY OUR ANSWERS AND THE WAY WE HANDLE THIS, LORD, WILL BE PLEASING TO YOU AND WE THANK YOU FOR ALL THAT YOU DO FOR US IN JESUS'S NAME. AMEN.

>> AMEN. >> I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.

AND TO THE PUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS.

ONE NATION, UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUST FOR ALL. HONOR THE TEXAS FLAG.

I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THEE, TEXAS, ONE STATE UNDER GOD, ONE AND INDIVISIBLE. DR. CARDENAS, MR. YOU PLEASE

CALL THE ROLL. >> DEBBIE INGALSBE: HERE.

>> MARK JONES: HERE. >> LON SHELL: HERE.

>> WALT SMITH: HERE. >> JUDGE BECERRA: HERE.

[Public Comments]

THOSE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO SUBMITTED A PUBLIC PARTICIPATION WITNESS FORM WILL NOW HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SP SPEAK. UNFORTUNATELY NO ACTION MAY BE TAKEN BY THE COURT DURING PUBLIC COMMENTS AS WE ARE EXPECTED NOT TO RESPOND. ANY QUESTIONS WILL BE TAKEN AS RHETORICAL. ALL COMMENTS ARE CONSIDERED AN OPINION OF THE SPEAKER AND AREN'T NECESSARILY CONSTRUED AS TRUTH. PLEASE KEEP YOUR COMMENTS OR LANGUAGE CIVIL OR YOU WILL FORFEIT THE REMAINDER OF YOUR TIME. IN THE SPIRIT OF RESPECT, PLEASE SILENCE YOUR CELL PHONES.

THE FIRST SPEAKER IS MR. DON RAY GEORGE.

IF YOU WILL PLEASE APPROACH THE PODIUM AND WE WILL START A THREE-MINUTE TIMER FOR YOU, S SIR.

>> GOOD MORNING, JUDGE, COMMISSIONERS, I'M HERE TO ADDRESS TRAFFIC PROBLEMS ON TROUT WINE ROAD IN CINCO DE MAYO FOUR NORTHERN -- PRECINCT HAYS COUNTY.

DON RAY GEORGE AND I LIVED ON MY RANCH FOR A LONG TIME.

WHEN I FIRST MOVED THERE THE TROUT WINES WERE MY NEIGHBORS ACROSS THE STREET. THEY WERE BOTH GREAT PEOPLE AND SILL ALIVE. UNFORTUNATELY THEY ARE NOT WITH NOW. WHEN I FIRST MOVED THERE, BETWEEN ME AND 290 TO THE SOUTH.

2.4 MILES. ABOUT THE SAME DISTANCE.

SINCE TROUT WINE HAS BEEN PA PAVED, IT HAS BECOME KNOWN AS THE CUT THROUGH TO GET FROM 290 TO 71.

A LOT MORE EFFICIENT THEN GOING DOWN 12 WHICH IS A LONGER DISTANCE TO GET TO 71 FROM 290 ON -- ON THE ROAD WHICH IS BECOMING WORSE AND WORSE WITH TRAFFIC AND REPAIRS.

THE PROBLEMS THAT WE HAVE NOW ARE GROWING.

AND THEY ARE DANGEROUS. AND THEY ARE GOING TO CONTINUE TO GET WORSE WITH THE WORK GOING ON AT THE Y IN OAK HILL IN TRAVIS HAYS COUNTY. BECAUSE THE PREFERRED CUT THROUGH TO GET TO 290 FROM 71. WE HAVE 18-WHEELERS AND A O ONE-LANE BRIDGE. I DON'T HAVE THE SOLUTION BUT I WILL PUBLICLY THANK OUR CONSTABLE RON HOOD AND THIS COMMISSION FOR GIVING HIM A THIRD MOTORCYCLE POLICE OFFICER WHO HAS NOW DIRECTING SOME TRAFFIC PROBLEMS ON COUNTY ROADS WHERE THE OTHER TWO MOTORCYCLE COPS, I UNDERSTAND, ARE HANDLING STATE HIGHWAYS. I HAVE PERSONALLY WITNESSED ON MY SECURITY CAMERA SEVERAL DOZEN CITATIONS BEING GIVEN OUT BY THIS POLICE OFFICER ON TROUT WINE ROAD FOR SPEDING.

I WITNESSED VEHICLES BEING HAULED OFF FROM MY DRIVEWAY WHERE THE DRIVERS WERE REMOVED PAUSE THEY HAD -- I AM ASSUME NOTHING INSURANCE AND PERHAPS NO LICENSE.

MY WIFE AND I HAVE CONTINUALLY BEEN RUN OFF TO ONE SIDE OF THE ROAD AS PEOPLE CROSS THE DOUBLE YELLOW LINE TO PASS US BECAUSE

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I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS. I AM NOT AN EXPERT ON TRAFFIC AND ROADS. I HAVE RETIRED AS A EXPERT OF A PETROLEUM ENGINEER. I KNOW HOW TO DRILL HOLES, BUT I DO KNOW SIMPLE, FAIRLY REASONABLE COSTS CAN BE EXPENDED TO ALLEVIATE SOME OF THIS PROBLEM.

SIGNAGE IS LACKING ON THE ROAD. AND IN SOME CASES IT IS PLACED IN THE WRONG PLACE. [BEEPING] IN ADDITION -- IN ADDITION THE DOUBLE YELLOW LINE COULD BE RESTRIPED WHERE IT IS MUCH MORE VISIBLE, BUT ALL OF THE PASSING THAT OCCURS ON TROUT WINE ROAD IS ON A DOUBLE YELLOW LINE AND ILLEGAL. THE TRAFFIC NEVER SLOWS DOWN TO 30 MILES PER HOUR. LAST PERSON WHO HIT MY FENCE -- MY POST AND THE BRICK COLUMNS TOLD THE OFFICER, HER SHERIFF THAT SHE ONLY GOES 45 MILES PER HOUR ON TROUT WINE ROAD BECAUSE IT IS SO WINDY AND THE AND MAXIMUM SPEED LIMIT IS 40 YEARS OLD. UNFORTUNATELY THE 70-YEAR-OLD LADY GOT HAULED OFF TO JAIL. THAT IS MY COMMENTS.

I BELIEVE I HEARD THE BUZZER. >> I WAS ABOUT TO HEAR YOU AND WORKED OUT PERFECTLY THAT YOU CAN CONTINUE YOUR THOUGHTS.

>> JUDGE BECERRA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

WE WILL LOOK INTO IT. WE ARE VERY ENGAGED IN COMMISSIONERS COURT AND COMMISSIONER SMITH WILL PROBABLY HAVE SOME COMMENTS. THANK YOU FOR BEING UP HERE.

>> I WOULD APPRECIATE THAT. >> JUDGE BECERRA: NEXT SPEAKER

IS MR. DAN LYON. >> YOUR, WITH JUDGE BECERRA AND COMMISSIONERS, HOPEFULLY I WON'T USE ALL OF MY THREE MINUTES. CHUCK ENGINEER REPAIR REPLACEMENT FOR THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT, APPROXIMATELY $25,000. LOOKS LIKE SEVERAL VEHICLES WERE WORKED ON HERE. THERE IS SOME ANOMALIES HERE.

IT LOOKS LIKE ENGINE REPAIRS ON NUMBER 1502 ARE THE EXACT SAME AMOUNT AS AN ENGINE REPLACEMENT ON UNIT NUMBER 1417.

THAT IS $3157. NOT TO MENTION THAT UNIT NUMBER 1417 HAS TWO CHARGES FOR ENGINE REPAIRS AS DOES UNIT NUMBER 1 1406. NOW WHEN I LOOK AT THIS STUFF, IT LOOKS LIKE YOU ALL ARE MAKING THIS UP.

I AM ALWAYS SKEPTICAL ABOUT SOME OF THESE REPAIRS THAT ARE BEING DONE ON THE SHERIFF CARS. LEADS ME RIGHT INTO MY NEXT DISBURSEMENT, O'REILLY AUTO PARTS.

DISC SET ROTORS. TWO WEEKS AGO I EXPLAINED TO THE COURT THAT REPLACEMENT OF ROTORS IS NOT A NORMAL PROCEDURE ON A NORMAL BRAKE JOBS.

IT INDICATES EITHER ABUSE OR FRAUD.

AND I AM NOT SURE WHICH. ALL RIGHT, LET'S GO DOWN TO JM ENGINEERING, HVAC SERVICE FOR THE GOVERNMENT CENTER.

THIS IS AT LEAST THE THIRD TIME I HAVE COME UP HERE FOR ALL THE HVAC CALLS FOR THE GOVERNMENT CENTER.

IT LOOKS LIKE NOW WE ARE UP TO -- THIS IS NOT -- I DON'T THINK THIS IS THE IF YOU WILL AMOUNT, BUT WHAT IS WHAT I RECORDED.

UP TO $59,355.57. THAT IS IN ABOUT A MONTH AND A HALF. ARE WE GOING TO STOP NOW THAT IT'S -- THAT WE ARE GOING INTO FALL AND -- YOU KNOW, WE DON'T NEED THE AIR CONDITIONING NEARLY AS MUCH? I DOUBT IT. BUT ANYWAY.

ENGINEERING COMPANIES, ENGINEERING, IH-35.

LOOKS LIKE ANOTHER $9447.58. AND I BELIEVE WE WERE TOLD ALMOST A YEAR AGO WE WEREN'T GOING TO DUES D AENBAUM.

IN LAREDO THEY HAD THEIR DOCUMENTS CONFISCATED BY THE FBI. YOU MAY SAY NOT THE SAME BUT THE SAME ENGINEERING COMPANY AND THERE IS SOME CONNECTION BUT WE STILL DO BUSINESS WITH THEM.

INSTALLATION OF WATER SYSTEM OF THE GOVERNMENT CENTER, $300 BUCKS. WE HAD PROBLEMS WITH THE WATER FROM DAY ONE AT THE GOVERNMENT CENTER AND IT IS NOT GETTING ANY BETTER. WHEN IS THAT GOING TO STOP, ALSO? THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> JUDGE BECERRA: THANK YOU, MR. DAN LYON, JUST SO YOU KNOW

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I WAS BEEN ASKED TO PULL ITEM 39.

IF YOU WERE TUNED IN TO LISTEN TO 39 THAT IT HAS BEEN PULLED.

AS CUSTOMARY TO SPEAK ON 39 ALTHOUGH THE FORM IS NOT COMMIT -- SUBMITTED I WILL LET YOU.

>> JUDGE, I AM PULLING 26. >> JUDGE BECERRA: I WAS JUST ASKED TO PULL 2626 AND 39 WAS MOVED FROM THE AGENDA.

[1. Adopt a proclamation recognizing the 25th Anniversary of Nosotros la Gente. INGALSBE]

DR. CARDENAS. >> MS. CARDENAS: NUMBER 1, ADOPT A PROCLAMATION RECOGNIZING THE 25TH ANNIVERSARY OF NOSTROS LA GE GENTE.

>> DEBBIE INGALSBE: SO MOVED. >> SECOND.

>> JUDGE BECERRA: A MOTION AND A SECOND AND PLEASE READ THE

PROCLAMATION. >> MS. CARDENAS: YES, PROCLAMATION RECOGNIZING THE 25TH ANNIVERSARY OF NOSTROS LA GENTE. WHEREAS, IN 1996, RALPH GONZALEZ FOUNDED A NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION THAT BECAME KNOWN AS NOSTROS LA GENTE, WE THE PEOPLE, DEDICATED TO IMPROVE THE COMMUNITY PROVIDING ASSISTANCE TO FAMILIES IN NEED AND EQUALITY AND JUSTICE TO ALL CITIZENS.

WHEREAS, NOSTROS LA GENTE HAS PROVIDED ASSISTANCE OF THOSE WITH MEDICAL NEEDS AND VISITED ZAPATOS SHOE DISTRIBUTION 25 YEARS AGO TO PROVIDE A FREE PAIR OF SHOES TO NEEDY CHILDREN FROM THE SAN MARCOS CON TOLL DATED INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICT. WHEREAS, NOSTROS LA GENTE HAS HELD AN ANNUAL SHOE DISTRIBUTION IN DECEMBER GIVING OVER 1,000 PAIRS OF SHOES EACH YEAR AND WHEREAS, THE ORGANIZATION'S FUNDRAISER ARE MADE POSSIBLE BY ITS MEMBERS.

MORE THAN 400 PEOPLE STRONG AS WELL AS VOLUNTEERS, CONTRIBUTORS AND DONORS FROM LOCAL CITIZENS AND BUSINESSES.

WHEREAS, THE ORGANIZATION HAS PROVIDED TO DATE OVER 25,000 PAIR OF SHOES TO NEEDY CHILDREN OF THE SAN MARCOS CONSOLIDATED INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICT. WHEREAS, THE NOSTROS LA GENTE ORGANIZATION HAS SPENT WELL OVER A QUARTER OF A MILLION DOLLARS DURING THESE 25 YEARS AT THE VIVA ZAPATOS SCHOOL DISTRIBUTION. THIS WONDERFUL ORGANIZATION HAS MADE A DIFFERENCE IN THE SAN MARCOS COMMUNITY AND CELEBRATE ITS 25TH YEAR OF SERVICE TO AN MARCOS, TEXAS, 2021.

THEREFORE IT BE IT RESOLVED THAT THE HAYS COUNTY COMMISSIONERS COURT RECOGNIZE OCTOBER 19, 2021 THE 25TH ANNIVERSARY OF NOSTROS LA GENTE AND CALL ON THE PEOPLE OF OUR COMMUNITY TO OFFER SINCERE DEDICATION TO THE MEN AND WOMEN THAT PROVIDE ASSISTANCE TO SAN MARCOS CITIZENS AND SHOES TO THE NEEDY CHILDREN OF THE CONSOLIDATED END PINT SCHOOL DISTRICT THE 19TH DAY OF OCTOBER, 2021.

>> JUDGE BECERRA: WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

DO WE WANT TO HAVE COMMENTS? OR GO AHEAD AND FLOAT.

>> DEBBIE IGALSBE: UP TO YOU. >> JUDGE BECERRA: CALL THE

ROLL, PLEASE. >> MARK JONES: YES.

>> DEBBIE INGALSBE: >> LON SHELL: YES.

>> WALT SMITH: YES. >> JUDGE BECERRA: YES.

I CAN SAY IT HAS BEEN AN HONOR FOR ME IN THIS SPACE RAISING MY FAMILY IN THIS COMMUNITY AND THE COUNTY SEAT HAD THE INTERACTIONS I HAD WITH THIS LPGA ANY SENT ORGANIZATION.

I HAD THE PRIVILEGE OF SEEING HOW KINDHEARTED, GOOD SPIRITED ENERGY FLOWS OUT THIS EFFORT. AND I AM JUST SO GRATEFUL TO ANYTHING AND ANYONE THAT HELPS CREATE MESSAGES AND ENERGY OF UNITY, OF PEACE, OF LOVE, AND THIS ABSOLUTELY DOES THAT.

AND I AM JUST SO GRATEFUL THAT I'M HERE AS A WITNESS TO A MILESTONE BIRTHDAY OF THIS ORGANIZATION, 25 YEARS.

THAT IS NO EASY FEAT AND NOT AN ORGANIZATION THAT SITS ON A SHELF. IT IS AN ORGANIZATION THAT IS ALIVE, VIBRANT AND ACTIVE. AND I AM JUST SO GRATEFUL TO BE SITTING, AGAIN, ALONGSIDE COMMISSIONER INGALSBE AND LOOKING OUT IN THE AUDIENCE AND SEEING WHO IS HERE AND FEELING SO GRATEFUL TO BE A WITNESS TO IT.

COMMISSIONER INGALSBE. >> DEBBIE INGALSBE: JUDGE, THANK YOU. I KNOW THERE IS SOMEONE HERE ALSO WHO WANTS TO SAY A FEW WORDS, BUT I WANT TO THANK ALL THE MEMBERS -- DAD IS HERE. AND I WANT TO THANK HIM FOR HIS VISION. WHEN HE CREATED THIS ORGANIZATION. AND THE MANY -- I KNOW THERE ARE BOARD MEMBERS HERE AND VOLUNTEERS THAT HAVE REALLY DONE A LOT. THEY HAVE A HEART OF SERVICE.

AND I REALLY APPRECIATE EVERYBODY.

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IT IS A HAYS COUNTY ORGANIZATION AND THEY CONCENTRATE IN SAN MARCOS, BUT IT IS REALLY A BLESSING TO BE A PART OF SEEING SUCH GREAT GROUP OF PEOPLE WORK SO HARD.

>> JUDGE BECERRA: THAT'S RI RIGHT.

IT IS OUR ORGANIZATION. IT IS OUR COMMUNITY.

THE FOUNDER MR. RALPH GONZALEZ, ALSO A FORMER COMMISSIONER OF PRECINCT 1 IS IN THE AUDIENCE AND WE ARE GRATEFUL TO SEE HIM HERE AND COMMISSIONER INGALSBE SAID SOMEONE FROM THE ORGANIZATION WHO WOULD LIKE TO APPROACH THE PODIUM.

AFTER YOUR COMMENTS WHICH WE ARE SO HAPPY TO HEAR, WE INVITE YOU ALL TO COME UP WITH A PICK -- FOR A PICTURE WITH THE

PROCLAMATION. >> GOOD MORNING.

THANK YOU TO THE COMMISSIONERS COURT.

ON BEHALF OF NOSTROS LA GENTE, WE WANT TO THANK YOU FOR THE ACKNOWLEDGMENT AND THE PROCLAMATION.

WE, AS MRS. INGALSBE SAID, WE AR ALWAYS HAPPY TO HELP THE COMMUNITY. IF YOU EVER BEEN TO ONE OF OUR SHOE DRIVES WHICH THIS YEAR WILL HAPPEN ON DECEMBER 7.

BECAUSE OF COVID WE ARE DOING IT A LITTLE DIFFERENTLY BUT WE ARE STILL GETTING OUT. WE FOUND ANOTHER WAY TO GET TO THE CHILDREN AND SO EVERY YEAR WE GIVE OVER 1,000 PAIRS OF SHOES TO THE CHILDREN OF SAN MARCOS INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICT AND HAVE THE PRESENCE OF THE CHILDREN AND THE PARENTS IN FRONT OF US THE SMILES OF THEIR BASES AND THE HELP AT A TIME OF NEED HAVE BEEN WELL WORTH THE WORK TO PARTAKE TO GET THERE. RALPH GONZALEZ, MY UNCLE, I WILL ALWAYS -- JUST -- I DON'T EVEN KNOW THE WORD.

ADMIRED AND INSPIRED BY HIM AND WHAT HE HAS DONE AND WHAT HE CONTINUES TO DO FOR 25 YEARS ALL OF US DO IT OUT OF OUR HEARTS AND VOLUNTEERS WITH THE COMMUNITY.

WE KNOW WE CAN'T DO IT WITHOUT THE SUPPORT OF PEOPLE SUCH AS YOU. WE KNOW WE MAKE A DIFFERENCE IN THE COMMUNITY AND THAT IS WHAT IT SHOULD BE ABOUT.

ON BEHALF OF NOSTROS LA GENTE, WE THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> JUDGE BECERRA: COMMISSIONERS, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. DO YOU WANT TO CONTRIBUTE?

>> RECOGNIZE COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ AND A TOUGH YEAR AND MAYBE THE GREATEST CONTRIBUTION TO OUR COMMUNITY IS OUR COLLEAGUE AT THE END OF THE DAIS.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THAT. >> JUDGE BECERRA: WHAT A BLESSING. AT THIS POINT, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO COME UP FOR A PICTURE, I THINK IT IS A WORTHY -- WORTHY USE OF THIS TIME. [APPLAUSE]

[2. Update by Charlie Campise on the October 2021 Hill Country Mental Health Development Disabilities Board Meeting. BECERRA]

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>> MS. CARDENAS: NUMBER 2. UPDATE BY CHARLIE CAMPISE ON THE OCTOBER 2021 HILL COUNTY MENTAL HEALTH DEVELOPMENT

DISABILITIES BOARD MEETING. >> JUDGE BECERRA: THANK YOU, MR. CAMPISE. YOU HAVE BEEN AN ADDITIONAL ECHOING OF PREVIOUS COMMENTS, YOU HAVE BEEN A BLESSING IN OUR COMMUNITY FOR SO MANY DECADES, YOU AND YOUR FAMILY WITH THE BURKE CENTER AND EVERYTHING ELSE THAT YOUR FAMILY HAVE CONTRIBUTED TO OUR COMMUNITY AND OUR YOUTH AND THANK YOU FOR SERVING IN THIS CAPACITY AND I UNDERSTAND YOU WERE JUST VOTED

IN AS SECRETARY. >> THAT'S CORRECT.

>> JUDGE BECERRA: OF THE ORGANIZATION.

AND I WANT TO SAY -- BECAUSE WE MISSED MEETING AND I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU ARE DOING AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONTINUED SUPPORT ON MENTAL HEALTH FRONT.

>> YES. MY ODOMETER LAST MONTH JUST EX-SEATED 80 YEARS. AND MY CAR ODOMETER LAST WEEK EXCEEDED 101,000 MILES. SO NONE OF US ARE GETTING ANY ER THE WORLD MOVES ON. THE COUNTY GROWS.

OUR NEEDS ARE GROWING. ONE COUNTY COMMISSIONER, TWO OF US AND MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WERE PRESENT INNER CANVILLE, TEXAS OR ON ZOOM THIS DAY A REQUIRED TRAINING OF BOARD MEMBER DUTIES AND RESPONSIBILITIES.

THIS TRAINING WAS CONDUCTED BY LEGAL REPRESENTATIVES OF OUR AGENCY. NEXT ITEM ON HAND WAS AN EXECUTIVE SESSION. IT IS OF NOTE THAT PENDING LAWSUITS WILL BE SETTLED WITH NO OTHER FINANCIAL LOSS TO THE AGENCY. THE DEL RIO DELEGATION WAS SOLVED BY CLARIFICATIONS AND ADDITIONS TO AGENCY POLICIES.

CURRENTLY, THERE ARE NO OFFERS PENDING ON PROPERTIES RECENTLY PUT UP FOR SALE BY THE AGENCY. ABOUT A YEAR AGO, I MENTIONED IN A MEETING, IN MY REPORT, THAT OUR AGENCY IS ATTEMPTING AS A QUASI GOVERNMENTAL BODY TO CEASE LEASING SO MUCH PROPERTY AND TO BEGIN OWNING. WE PURCHASED SEVERAL PIECES OF PROPERTY INNER CANVILLE OVER THE LAST YEAR.

WE DON'T NEED IT. THE VALUE HAS INCREASED.

SO WE HAVE THAT PROPERTY FOR SALE.

THE NEXT ITEM WAS THE CITIZENS ADVISORY COMMITTEE REPORT.

AND THIS REPORT REQUIRES OUR BOARD MEMBERS APPROVE THREE NEW PEOPLE TO THIS ADVISORY COMMITTEE.

ALL THREE WERE APPROVED UNANIMOUSLY.

THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR REPORT WAS NEXT.

WE HAVE A NEW EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR AND HE WAS HIRED AT A SALARY INCREASE OF ABOUT 30%. THIS WAS JUSTIFIED BY THE FACT THAT IN FISCAL YEAR 2022-2023, THE FEDERAL MANDATE, WHICH FUNDS MOST OF THE DOLLARS WE SPEND, IS GOING TO REQUIRE THAT NOT ONLY DO WE ATTEND TO THE MENTAL HEALTH OF OUR CLIENTS AND TO THE DEVELOPMENTAL DISABILITIES OF SOME OF OUR CLIENTS, BUT ALSO TO THEIR PHYSICAL HEALTH.

SO BEGINNING NEXT FISCAL YEAR, THERE WILL BE MEDICAL DOCTORS INVOLVED IN EVERY EVALUATION OF ANY OF THE 2000 OR SO PEOPLE WHO GET SERVED ON A MONTHLY BASIS BY OUR AGENCY.

THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, OF COURSE, IS SPENDING TIME NOW TRYING TO KNOW EVERY ONE OF THE COUNTY COMMISSIONERS IN THE 19 COUNTIES THAT ARE OPERATED AS PART OF HILL COUNTY MENTAL HEALTH DEVELOPMENT DISABILITIES AGENCY.

OUR AGENCY SERVES MORE CLIENTS EACH WEEK SINCE THE LAST MEETING WAS HELD. THE AGENCY HAS BEEN APPROVED TO HAVE GRANTS TO USE FOR FUNDS THIS YEAR AND NEXT YEAR.

IT IS OF NOTE, THAT UTILIZATION OF PRIVATE HOSPITAL BEDS IS STILL AT RECORD LEVEL. AND LO AND BEHOLD, AS USUAL,

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USING PRIVATE HOSPITAL BEDS. THE CRISIS STABILIZATION UNIT OCCUPANCY RATE IS STILL AT A HIGH LEVEL.

IT WAS POINTED OUT BY THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR THAT THE AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN FUNDING IS AVAILABLE IN THE NEAR FUTURE FOR OUR USE SO WE CHOOSE. APPLICATIONS BY ANY GOVERNMENTAL BODY DOES HAVE A DEADLINE IN THE VERY NEAR FUTURE. OUR AGENCY CURRENTLY IS APPLYING FOR ART FUNDS TO COMPLETE THE PLANNED HOSPITAL FOR UVALVE. IF YOU RECALL IN A PREVIOUS MEETING, I RECORDED THAT THERE WAS SIGNIFICANT DOLLARS THAT WERE GOING TO HAVE TO BE EXPENDED FOR THE -- FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE PROPERTY. OF THE UNITS.

WE DON'T GET ALL OF THE MONEY FROM EWE VALUE DEE.

ACREAGE FROM UVALDE AND THE COMMITMENT FROM THE COUNTY AND OTHER SOURCES TO PAY FOR THE OPERATIONAL COSTS PROFESSOR ECKLESON ADDED COMMENTS TO THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR REPORT SAY SAY THING THAT COMAL COUNTY IS CURRENTLY SEEKING FUNDS FROM THE SAME SOURCE FOR CREATION AND OPERATION OF A NEW EMERGENCY FACILITY IN AND AROUND NEW BRAUNFELS, TEXAS FOR USE BY THE SENSE OF COMAL COUNTY AND USAGE WILL NOT EXCLUDE PEOPLE FROM ANY OF THE OTHER 18 COUNTIES INCLUDING HAYS COUNTY WHICH IS A MEMBER OF OUR CATCHMENT AREA THEY PLAN FOR 16 BEDS FOR ADULTS AND EIGHT ADDITIONAL FOR TEENAGERS CHILDREN. IN SPECIAL UNIT WHICH IS ONE STEP AWAY FROM CRISIS STABILIZATION IS BEING PUT INTO PLACE IN COMAL COUNTY TO SERVE PEOPLE WHO NEED SERVICES FOR 48 HOURS OR LESS THE FINANCIAL STATUS OF THE AGENCY IS STILL LISTED AS STRONG. AS YOU RECALL IN THE LAST REPORT THAT I MADE, THERE WAS THE JEX THAT IN EXCESS OF ONE-THIRD OF THE 35 AGENCIES WHICH MAKE UP MENTAL HEALTH AND DEVELOPMENTAL DISABILITIES, WHICH IS THE OLD TEXAS MHMR WERE QUITE LIKELY TO FOLD BECAUSE OF LACK OF MONEY.

THIS, OF COURSE, DOES NOT INCLUDE HAYS COUNTY OR OUR REGION. IT IS NEGATIVE US TO FOR THE EXTENT THAT OUR CATCHMENT AREAS WILL BE CALLED ON TO PICK UP THE LOSSES OF THOSE OTHER CENTERS.

THE RATE OF EMPLOYEE TURNOVER IS STILL RAPID.

THIS INCLUDES NOT ONLY LINE WORKERS AND PEOPLE FROM THE SECRETARIAL POOL R, BUT ALSO PROFESSIONALS, LIKE MASTERS SOCIAL WORK, SOCIAL LEVEL PEOPLE, PSYCHOLOGISTS AND PSYCHIATRISTS. VOTED IN THE MEETING TO GIVE ALL EMPLOYEES INCENTIVE BON BONUSES.

THIS WILL BE FOR PEOPLE OF EVERY LEVEL WHO HAVE SHOWN FIDELITY AND REMARKABLE EFFORTS TOWARD THE NEEDS OF THE CLIENTS WHO COME TO OUR AGENCY. THE USE OF NEW TELECOMMUNICATION DEVICES CONTINUES.

IT EN TABLES EVEN MORE CLIENTS TO ACCESS PROFESSIONAL HEALTH WITHOUT HAVING TO TRAVEL GREAT DISTANCES THIS NEW PROGRAM

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PLEASE NOTE, THERE ARE STILL NO ESTIMATE AS TO WHEN THERE AGAIN WILL BE FACE-TO-FACE SERVICES FOR PEOPLE WHO HAVE DAILY WORKSHOP CLASSES LIKE AT THE SHIBE CENTER, CLASSES FOR THE DEVELOPMENTALLY DISABLED. THE ELECTION OF THE OFFICERS WAS NEXT ON THE AGENDA. YOURS TRULY CHARLES CAMPISE WAS ELECTED TO BE THE SECRETARY OF THE COMING AGENCY.

HE WILL HOLD THIS OFFICE FOR THE COMING YEARS.

PLEASE NOTE THAT I WAS AT THE MEETING ON ZOOM, AND I GUESS THAT KIND OF MEANS YOU ARE NOT IN THE MEETING AND SOMETIMES WHEN YOU ARE NOT TOTALLY IN THE MEETING YOU GET ELECTED TO AN

OFFICE. >> JUDGE BECERRA: OR VO VOLUN-TOLD. [LAUGHTER]

>> YES. MY REQUEST THAT THE COMMISSIONERS COURT MAKE GREAT EFFORTS TO SUPPORT JUDGE BECERRA'S WORK RIGHT NOW TO BEGIN THE STUDY TO SEE THAT WE HAVE A MENTAL HEALTH HOSPITAL FOR -- IN HAYS COUNTY.

THAT STUDY WILL THEN SUPPORT THE CONSTRUCTION.

IT IS OF NOTE, AND I FOUND THIS OUT WITH A VISIT FROM COMMISSIONER ECKLESSON IN NEW BRAUNFELS THAT WE HAVE ACCESS TO $15 MILLION, $20 MILLION FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF THAT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. SOME OF YOU WERE FORTUNATE ENOUGH TODAY TO RECEIVE FOR THE FIRST TIME IN YOUR LIFE, I BELIEVE, A HALLOWEEN CARD. YOU MAY CONSIDER YOURSELF LUCKY IF YOU DIDN'T GET ONE. HAPPY HALLOWEEN, THANK YOU.

>> JUDGE BECERRA: MR. CAMPISE, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR DETAILED REPORT. I WOULD LIKE TO REPEAT A COUPLE OF POINTS THAT WERE ACCIDENTALLY OVERLOOKED POTENTIALLY. AND IN THIS 18-COUNTY FOOTPRINT THAT MAKES UP OUR HILL COUNTY MDHD, WE AS A COUNTY, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, CAPTURE 60% OF THAT BUDGETARY EFFORT IN REFERENCE TO MENTAL HEALTH. IS THAT RIGHT?

>> THAT'S CORRECT. THROUGH OUR CLIENTS FROM HAYS COUNTY USING SERVICES. AND AS WELL, PEOPLE FROM HAYS COUNTY BEING PLACED IN HOSPITAL BEDS.

IF WE HAVE OUR OWN FACILITY, WE WILL SPEND LESS PER BED PER DAY. PROBABLY $100 TO $125 PER DAY PER BED. OTHER SAVINGS TOO THAT -- I POINTED OUT TO YOU IN THE PAST. DEPUTIES WON'T HAVE TO TAKE PEOPLE TOER CANVILLE, TO THE CRISIS -- TO ER CANVILLE, TO THE CRISIS COMMUNITY. AND NOT TAKEN OFF OF HAYS COUNTY AND TAKEN OFF THE SHIFT TO TRANSFER PEOPLE TO KERRRVILLE TO THE CRISIS STABILIZATION UNIT.

LET ME MAKE THE POINT THAT SAN ANTONIO STATE HOSPITAL IS CRUMBLING PRETTY SOON IT WILL TOTALLY CRUMBLE BECAUSE THEY ARE GOING TO BUZZ DOZE THE ENTIRE COMPLEX.

A SHORTAGE OF 210 MENTAL HEALTH HOSPITAL BEDS FOR AT LEAST YEARS AND MY FINAL COMMENT IS IT IS TIME FOR US TO ATTEND TO THE PROBLEM I PERSONALLY WITNESSED, TRANSPORTED PEOPLE AS AN UBER DRIVER WHO HAD FAMILY MEMBERS IN THE STATE HOSPITAL IN KERRVILLE OR WHO THEMSELVES JUST RETURNED FROM THE STATE HOSPITAL IN KERR KERRVILLE.

THE CRISIS PROBABLY IS PARTIALLY CAUSED THE FACT THAT WE ARE ALL STRUGGLING WITH THE RESULTS OF THE COVID AND WE WILL CONTINUE TO DO SO. BELIEVE IT OR NOT, ALL OF US ARE EXTREMELY STRESSED A GOOD BIT OF THE TIME, EVEN WHEN WE DON'T RECOGNIZE THAT. THERE IS ONE LADY TOLD ME -- THIS IS MY FINAL COMMENT. I GAVE HER A RIDE TO THE

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SHE SAID SHE HAD JUST GOTTEN OUT OF THE AUSTIN STATE HOSPITAL. SHE WAS THERE TEN DAYS ON THE UNIT BECAUSE SHE HAD ATTEMPTED SUICIDE.

SHE WAS THE ONLY ADULT ON THAT UNIT.

ALL THE OTHERS ON THAT UNIT HAD ATTEMPTED SUICIDE.

THEY WERE ALL TEENAGERS. SO THERE IS A CRISIS SITUATION AT HAND. AND PROBABLY IT'S WISE FOR US TO BUILD SOMETHING THAT WILL SERVE PEOPLE TEN YEARS FROM N NOW. THAT IS WHAT THEY PLAN ON DOING IN COMAL COUNTY. IT IS POSSIBLE THAT OTHER COUNTIES WILL SOAK UP SOME OF OUR BEDS, BUT I WOULD SUBMIT THAT AT LEAST 60% OF THE BEDS WE CREATE WILL BE USED BY

CITIZENS OF HAYS COUNTY. >> JUDGE BECERRA: THANK YOU FOR POINTING THAT OUT, MR. CAMPISE.

I SPOKE TO GUADELOUPE COUNTY JUDGE AND CALDWELL COUNTY JUDGE AND TOLD THEM ABOUT THE EFFORTS AND THE -- THE GOALS OF MINE HONESTLY THAT'S HOW I HAVE TO SPEAK.

I DON'T SPEAK FOR THE COURT, THE VOTE HAVEN'T TAKEN PLACE.

AND OF THE NEED AND THE UNDER FOLDING AND THANK YOU FOR THE REMINDER THAT YOU AND I VISITED COMAL COUNTY ECKLE STN.

SHE IS EXTREMELY KNOWLEDGEABLE AND LONG HISTORY OF SUPPORTING ON THE MENTAL HEALTH FRONT AND SHE SHARED SOME GREAT PERSPECTIVES. AND I WOULD LIKE TO REITERATE THAT WHAT YOU SAID, WHAT COMAL COUNTY IS WORKING ON IS ONE

STEP AWAY FROM A CRISIS CENTER. >> JUDGE BECERRA: A 48-HOUR MAXIMUM STAY. IT IS CRISIS STABILIZATION.

IT IS NOT INTENDED TO BE WHAT WE ARE PUSHING FOR WHICH BONAFIDED MENTAL HEALTH HOSPITAL.

THE COMMISSIONER FROM COMAL COUNTY, COMMISSIONER ECKLESTON SAID IT WOULD BE A GREAT COMPLEMENT WHAT THEY ARE WORKING ON AND I DON'T WANT ANYONE TO MISUNDERSTAND TO MAKE IT LOOK LIKE DUPLICATING EFFORTS.

THANK YOU FOR THE HEARTFELT UPDATE.

ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. CAMPISE? INGALSBE UNGZ I DON'T BELIEVE

SO AT THIS TIME. >> JUDGE BECERRA: THANK YOU, SIR. AND THIS CONCLUDES OUR PRESENTATIONS AND PROCLA PROCLAMATIONS.

HOW ABOUT JEFF -- MISS AND ANDERSON.

ITEMS TO HAVE YOU GO THROUGH. >> DEBBIE INGALSBE: ANOTHER ONE TO PULL, JUDGE. NUMBER 33.

>> JUDGE BECERRA: I HAVE BEEN ASKED TO PULL 33.

26, 33 AND 39. AGENDA ITEM? OKAY. EXECUTIVE? ANYONE ELSE PICKING AN AGENDA ITEM TO KEEP YOU MOVING? ALL GOOD. MOVE THROUGH STEADY THEN.

LAST CALL? WE ARE GOOD?

[Items 3 - 7]

>> MS. CARDENAS: 3, APPROVE PAYMENT OF COUNTY INVOICES.

4, APPROVE THE PAYMENT OF THE OCTOBER 31, 2021 PAYROLL DISBURSEMENTS IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $3,900,000 EFFECTIVE OCTOBER 29, 2021 AND POST TOTALS FOR WAGES, WITHHOLDINGS, DEDUCTIONS AND BENEFITS OF THE HAYS COUNTY WEB SITE ONCE FINALIZED. 5, AUTHORIZE SECURITY ONE TO INSTALL A CELLULAR COMMUNICATOR TO THE FIRE ALARM SYSTEM AT THE REMME RAINBO W ROOM IN THE AMOUNT OF $800.

6, AUTHORIZE COUNTYWIDE OPERATIONS PERSONAL HEALTH TO PURCHASE ONE REPLACEMENT DEL 5520 LAPTOP WITH ACCESSORIES VALUED AT $1414.13 AND AMEND THE BUDGET ACCORDINGLY.

7, AUTHORIZE THE ACCEPTANCE OF A GRANT AWARD FOR THE OFFICE OF THE GOVERNOR, HOMELAND SECURITY GRANT DIVISION FOR THE HAYS HAZMAT MONITOR MAINTENANCE IN THE AMOUNT OF $10 MILLION.

>> SO MOVED. >> SECOND.

>> LON SHELL: YES. >> WALT SMITH: YES.

>> MARK JONES: YES. >> DEBBIE INGALSBE: YES.

[8. Adopt a resolution nominating Jenifer O'Kane as a candidate for the Central Appraisal District Board of Directors. SHELL]

>> JUDGE BECERRA: YES. PLEASE OPEN NUMBER 8.

>> MS. CARDENAS: NUMBER 8, ADOPT A RESOLUTION NAMING

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DISTRICT BOARD OF DIRECTORS. >> MOTION.

>> SECOND. >> JUDGE BECERRA: MR. DAN LYON WITH THREE MINUTES AND COMMENTS.

>> I COULDN'T THINK YOU COULD NOMINATED A BETTER PERSON THAN MISS O'KANE. EVERY TIME I ASKED HER QUESTIONS. SENT HER E-MAILS OR WHATEVER.

SHE HAS BEEN PROMPT TO RESPOND, IN-DEPTH AND WITH GOOD ANSWERS.

WITH THAT BEING SAID, I THINK SHE IS ANOTHER ONE THESE PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN VOLUN-TOLD TO DO THIS.

AND I AM NOT SURE I AM DOING A BIG FAVOR BY GETTING UP HERE AND SAYING -- ASKING YOU ACTUAL APPROVE HER.

; HOWEVER, THERE ARE A COUPLE OF PAINTS THAT NEED TO BE BROUGHT UP. WE NEED TO BRING UP THE FACT THAT A CONTINUOUS PARADE OF REAL ESTATE AGENTS ARE ON THE APPRAISAL REVIEW BOARD AND IN MY OPINION SHOULD BE BANNED BECAUSE AVENUE A VESTED INTEREST IN KEEPING PROPERTY TAXES HIGH. ALSO THE WIFE OF THE FORMER HAYS COUNTY REPUBLICAN CHAIRMAN IS ON THE ARB.

AND IT SEEMS TO ME A BIG CONFLICT OF INTEREST.

ALL RIGHT, THERE ALSO NEEDS TO BE A RECOGNITION TO REPLACE BAD BOARD MEMBERS AS I PERSONALLY KNOW OF ONE BOARD MEMBER WHO HAS A MULTITUDE OF LEGITIMATE COMPLAINTS AGAINST HIM, YET WHEN I SENT A PAGE OF WRITTEN COMPLAINTS TO JUDGE STEELE WITH MY PHONE NUMBER AND E-MAIL, I RECEIVED NO REPLY.

I REALIZE THAT JUDGE STEELE HAS BEEN KICKED UP TO HIGHER DUTIES AND NO LONGER THERE. I AM NOT SURE WHO IS GOING TO TAKE HIS PLACE, BUT WE NEED SOMETHING THAT WILL ALLOW THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEEN WRONGED BY THIS APPRAISAL REVIEW BOARD AND THE CENTRAL APPRAISAL DISTRICT TO HAVE A MECHANISM TO BE ABLE TO HAVE THEIR COMPLAINTS HEARD.

AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY. THANK YOU.

>> JUDGE BECERRA: THANK YOU, SIR.

ANY OTHER COMMENTS, COMMISSIONERS?

PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. >> WALT SMITH: YES.

>> MARK JONES: YES. >> DEBBIE INGALSBE: YES.

[Items 9 - 14]

>> LON SHELL: YES. >> JUDGE BECERRA: YES.

PLEASE OPEN 9-14. >> MS. CARDENAS: 9, APPROVE UTILITY PERMITS. 10, APPROVE THE APPOINTMENT OF SERGIO BAZALDUA TO THE BOARD OF EMERGENCY SERVICES DISTRICT 5 TO REPLACE JOHN RODRIGUEZ JR. ON THE EMERGENCY SERVICES DISTRICT NUMBER 5 FOR A TERM ENDING DECEMBER 31, 2023.

11, APPROVAL RENEW OF IFB 2 2019-B 08 EMUPTIONS OIL WITH ERGON ASPHALT AND EMULSIONS, INC. FOR ONE YEAR AS STATED IN THE ORIGINAL BID EFFECTIVE OCTOBER 29, 2021.

12, AUTHORIZE THE COUNTY JUDGE TO EXECUTE SOCIAL SERVICES AGENCY CONTRACTS AS APPROVED IN THE FY 2022 BUDGET.

13, AUTHORIZE THE ACCEPTANCE OF A GRANT AWARD FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE, OFFICE OF JUSTICE ASSISTANCE, PATRICK LEAHY BULLET-PROOF VEST PARTNERSHIP TO PURCHASE BULLET-PROOF VESTS FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS IN THE AMOUNT OF $5,479.58 AND AMEND THE BUDGET ACCORDINGLY 14, AUTHORIZE THE ACCEPTANCE OF A GRANT AWARD FROM THE OFFICE OF THE GOVERNOR CRIMINAL JUSTICE DIVISION GENERAL VICTIM ASSISTANCE PROGRAM FOR THE HAYS COUNTY VICTIM ASSISTANCE COORDINATOR IN THE AMOUNT OF $39,505.49.

>> SO MOVED. >> SECOND.

>> DEBBIE INGALSBE: YES. >> MARK JONES: YES.

>> LON SHELL: YES. >> WALT SMITH: YES.

[Items 15 -19]

>> JUDGE BECERRA: YES. WILL YOU OPEN 15 THROUGH 19.

>> MS. CARDENAS: 15, AUTHORIZE THE ACCEPTANCE OF A GRANT AWARD FROM THE OFFICE OF THE GOV GOVERNOR, CRIMINAL JUSTICE DIVISION, GENERAL VICTIM ASSISTANCE PROGRAM FOR THE HAYS COUNTY VICTIM ASSISTANCE COORDINATOR FOR THE FAMILY JUSTICE CENTER IN THE AMOUNT OF $40,979.92.

OF, AUTHORIZE THE ACCEPTANCE OF A GRANT AWARD FROM THE OFFICE OF THE GOVERNOR, CRIMINAL JUSTICE DIVISION FOR THE HAYS COUNTY MENTAL HEALTH CRISIS INTERVENTION GRANT RENEWAL IN THE AMOUNT OF $57,374.31. 17, AUTHORIZE THE ACCEPTANCE OF A GRANT AWARD FROM THE U.S. DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE, EDWARD BYRNE MEMORIAL JUSTICE ASSISTANCE GRANT PROGRAM FISCAL YEAR 2021. LOCAL SOLICITATION IN THE

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19, APPROVE THE ACTION TO APPOINT SUSAN KIMBALL TO THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS FOR THE DRIPPING SPRINGS TAX INCREMENT REINVESTMENT ZONES NUMBER 1 AND NUMBER 2 TO REPLACE DAN O'B O'BRIEN, TERM ENDING DECEMBER 31,2022.

>> SO MOVED. >> SECOND.

>> JUDGE BECERRA: A MOTION AND A SECOND, ON NUMBER 16, COMMISSIONER SHELL, MENTAL HEALTH CRISIS INTERVENTION GRANT. DO YOU HAVE SUGGESTIONS FOR THE PUBLIC WHAT THAT MONEY IS USED FOR?

>> THIS IS FOR ONE POSITION WITHIN THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE.

A RENEWAL, I BELIEVE. LAST YEAR WAS OUR FIRST.

VICKI, THAT'S CORRECT? FIRST YEAR FOR THIS GRANT?

>> YES. SHELL SCHOLZ A CERTIFIED MENTAL HEALTH PROFESSIONAL. JU

>> JUDGE BECERRA: THANK YOU. I WAS ASKED THAT QUESTION SO I SAID I WOULD ASK IT SO EVERYONE COULD HEAR IT.

I ALSO SAID WE USE TRAINING TO EXPAND ON ALL -- AS MANY AS OUR FRONT LINE FOR MENTAL HEALTH RESPONSE IS WHAT I ALSO SAID.

>> LON SHELL: YES, ONE THING THAT WE DO FOR ALL OF OUR OFFICERS THAT IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT THAN A LOT OF CITY PDS. BUT ALL OF OUR OFFICERS HAVE MENTAL HEALTH TRAINING AND WE DO SOME OFFICERS AS WELL.

>> JUDGE BECERRA: THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER FOR EXPANDING ON

THAT AGENDA ITEM. >> ON NUMBER 19, I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR JUDGE O'BRIEN FOR HIS SERVICE ON THE -- ON ONE AND TWO IN DRIPPING SPR SPRINGS.

AND LOOKING FORWARD HAVE HER ON THE ROLE.

>> DEBBIE INGALSBE: YES. >> LON SHELL: YES.

[Items 20 - 22]

>> MARK JONES: YES. >> JUDGE BECERRA: YES.

OPEN 20-22. >> MS. CARDENAS: 20, APPROVE THE REAPPOINTMENTS OF SILVER GARZA AND DON CURRY TO THE BOARD OF DRIFTWOOD ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT MUNICIPAL MANAGEMENT DISTRICTS FOUR-YEAR TERM ENDING JUNE 30 ALREADY 2025. NUMBER 21, APPROVES.

>> HE WAS. >> I FBI OCCASION FOR ROAD BUILDING MATERIAL LIMESTONE ROCK ASPHALT AND AUTHORIZE PURCHASING TO SOLICIT FOR BIDS AND ADVERTISE.

22, APPROVAL RENEWAL OF ROAD BUILDING MATERIALS HOT MIX WITH TEXAS MATERIALS GROUP AND COLORADO MATERIALS LIMITED FOR ONE ADDITIONAL YEAR AS STATE IN THE ORIGINAL BID EFFECTIVE

OCTOBER 29, 2021. >> DEBBIE INGALSBE: SO MOVED.

>> SECOND JEANE JONES YES. >> LON SHELL: YES.

>> WALT SMITH: YES. >> DEBBIE INGALSBE: YES.

[Items 23 - 25]

>> JUDGE BECERRA: YES. WILL YOU PLEASE OPEN 23, 24 AND

25. >> MS. CARDENAS: 3, DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO ADOPT A RESOLUTION SUPPORTING THE PLACEMENT OF "NO PARKING"SIGNS ON FM 150 WHERE IT CROSSES ONION CREEK AND IN PRECINCT 4. 24, DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO ACCEPT THE SITE IMPROVEMENT PERFORMANCE BOND NUMBER LICX 1209918 IN THE AMOUNT OF $803,175.76 FOR STREET EXCAVATION, DRAINAGE AND EROSION CONTROL IMPROVEMENTS IN THE CALITERRA SUBDIVISION PHASE 4, SECTION 11.

25, DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO CALL FOR A PUBLIC HEARING ON NOPE 2, 2021, TO ESTABLISH THREE-WAY STOP LOCATIONS ON OLD BASTROP HIGHWAY AT THE INTERSECTION OF POSEY ROAD AND FRANCIS HARRIS LANE.

>> DEBBIE INGALSBE: SO MOVED. >> SECOND JUDGE JUDGE

COMMISSIONERS, ANY COMMENTS? >> JUST ONE.

IN WORKING WITH OUR SHERIFF AND TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT IF YOU WERE FAMILIAR WITH THE DOUBLE CROSSING ON ONION CREEK.

IT IS EX-SEE SEEDINGLY -- AND VERY DANGEROUS TOO.

AND A PEOPLE PARKING ON THE RIGHT AND WAY AND THEY ARE MORE THAN HAPPY TO PUT NO PARKING SIGNS AND THEY ASKED FOR SUPPORT FROM THE COMMISSIONERS COURT WHENEVER THEY DO SO AND HAVE SUPPORT FROM THE SURROUNDING LANDOWNERS BECAUSE IT IS AN ISSUE. I WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT BECAUSE IT IS NOT ON THE COUNTY ROAD.

>> JUDGE BECERRA: BEAUTIFUL, SIR.

>> DEBBIE INGALSBE: ITEM NUMBER 25, WE CONTINUE TO SEE

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AND OLD BAST ROP AND CENTER POINT AND WANT TO DO THE SAME THING -- THERE WAS A LOT OF CUT THROUGH TRAFFIC AS WAS EXP EXPLAINED BY ONE SPEAKER EARLIER AND SEEING HEAVY TRUCK

TRAFFIC FOR SAFETY REASONS. >> JUDGE BECERRA: THANK YOU, COMMISSIONERS, TO STAY ON TOP OF THAT FRONT, BECAUSE AS A GROWING COUNTY IN, WE ARE EXPERIENCING THROUGH OUR PUBLIC SPEAK THEY ARE MORNING AND WHAT YOU JUST SAID, ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC, ESPECIALLY CONSTRUCTION TRAFFIC.

AND YOU DOING THIS IS -- IS VERY USEFUL TO HELP SAVE LIVES AND PROTECT PEOPLE. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER.

PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. >> LON SHELL: YES.

>> MARK JONES: YES. AS A REMINDER, I HAVE BEEN

[Items 27 - 29]

>> MS. CARDENAS: 27, DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO CONSIDER THE RELEASE OF THE MAINTENANCE BOND NUMBER 701 70164632 IN THE AMOUNT OF $ $30,280.64 AND THE ACCEPTANCE OF ROADS IN THE COUNTY ROAD MAINTENANCE SYSTEM FOR BELTERRA SUBDIVISION, PHASE 20, SECTION 1.

28, DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO CONSIDER THE RELEASE OF THE MAINTENANCE BOND 7 70167847 IN THE AMOUNT OF $ $71,856.34 AND THE ACCEPTANCE OF THE ROADS IN THE COUNTY ROAD MAINTENANCE 1278 FOR BELTERRA SUBDIVISION PHASE 20, SECTION 2 AND PHASE 21, SECTION 2. 29, DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO ACCEPT THE MAINTENANCE BOND RIDER EXTENSIONS FOR DNT CONSTRUCTION FOR JUNE 30, 2022 FOR SUNFIELD SUBDIVISION PHASE 2, SECTION 8, BOND NUMBER 1060750 IN THE AMOUNT OF $188,961. PHASE TWO, SECTION 11, BOND NUMBER 10607 51 IN THE AMOUNT OF $2341,755.60.

PHASE 3, SECTION 2, BOND NUMBER PB 03016800273M IN THE AMOUNT OF $32,600. PHASE 3, SECTION 4, BOND UNTIL PP 03016800240 M IN THE AMOUNT OF 22,000.

AND PHASE 3, ROADWAY EXTENSION BOND NUMBER PB 016800210 IN THE

AMOUNT OF 30,350. >> SO MOVED.

>> SECOND. >> JUDGE BECERRA: A MOTION AND A SECOND. ADDITIONAL COMMENTS?

>> COMMISSIONER JONES, I MISSED THAT -- CAN YOU READ THAT LAST

ITEM YOU HAD ON THERE? >> JUDGE BECERRA: SO CONCISELY WORDED. PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

>> DEBBIE INGALSBE: YES. >> WALT SMITH: YES.

>> MARK JONES: YES. >> LON SHELL: YE.

[Items 30 & 31]

>> JUDGE BECERRA: YES. OPEN 30 AND 31.

>> MS. CARDENAS: 30, DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO ACCEPT THE MAINTENANCE BOND RIDER EXTENSIONS FOR DNT CONSTRUCTION ON JUNE 30, TOY 2022 FOR SHADOW CREEK SUBDIVISION PHASE 9, SECTION 2, BOND 1848963 IN THE AMOUNT OF $180,069.38. 31, DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO ACCEPT FISCAL SURETY IN THE CONSTRUCTION OF ROADWAY IMPROVEMENTS FOR THE AMOUNT OF $3,599,477.50 FOR THE SUNSET OAKS, FACE 1, SECTION 1, DUB SI DIGS BOND US 0112379 SU 21 A.

>> SO MOVED. >> SECOND.

>> WALT SMITH: YES. >> DEBBIE INGALSBE: YES.

>> LON SHELL: YES. MARK JONES YES.

[32. PLN-1736-PC; Call for a Public Hearing on November 2nd, 2021 to discuss approval of the final plat of the Replat of Lots 13 and 14, Out of the Resubdivision of Lots 45 through 53 and Lot 58, Rolling Oaks Subdivision, Section 3. SHELL/MACHACEK]

>> JUDGE BECERRA: YES. PLEASE OPEN 32.

>> MS. CARDENAS: 32, PLN PLN-1736-PC, ALL FOR A PUBLIC HEARING ON NOVEMBER 2, 2021 TO DISCUSS APPROVAL OF THE FINAL PLAT OF THE REPLAT OF LOTS 13 AND 14, OUT OF THE RESUBDIVISIONS OUT OF LOTS 4 45-53 AND LOT 58, ROLLING OAKS

SUBDIVISION, SECTION 3. >> LON SHELL: SECOND.

>> JUDGE BECERRA: COMMISSIONER SHELL, ANY COMMENTS?

>> LON SHELL: NO CALLING FOR A PUBLIC HEARING.

>> WALT SMITH: YES. >> MARK JONES: YES.

>> DEBBIE INGALSBE: YES. >> LON SHELL: YES.

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>> JUDGE BECERRA: YES. I HAVE BEEN ASKED TO PULL 33.

[Items 34 & 35]

I ASK THAT YOU OPEN 34 AND 35. >> MS. CARDENAS: 34, DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO AUTHORIZE THE HAYS COUNTY HEALTH DEPARTMENT TO PROVIDE FLU VACCINES TO COUNTY EMPLOYEES AND THEIR ELIGIBLE DEPENDENTS END ROLLED IN THE COUNTY HEALTH PLAN. 35, DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO AUTHORIZE THE UTILIZATION OF STRATEGIC GOVERNMENT RESOURCES, EXECUTIVE RECRUITMENT SERVICES FOR THE COMBINED EMERGENCY COMMUNICATION DIRECTOR POSITION AND AMEND THE BUDGET ACCORDINGLY.

>> SO MOVED. >> SECOND.

>> JUDGE BECERRA: I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THANK YOU, MR. CRUMBBLEY FOR CONTINUING THE FLU VACCINATION EFFORT.

IT HELPS NEWS A LOT OF WAYS AND I KNOW THAT THE IDEA OF VACCINES, NO VACCINES HAVE BEEN POLITICIZED IN A CERTAIN WAYS BUT A LONG-STANDING TRADITION OF OUR COUNTY AND NOT HAVE A MANDATE TO HAVE ANY KIND OF VACCINE BUT WE WANT TO THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU ARE DOING OF 1,000-PLUS EMPLOYEES AND I DIDN'T KNOW IF YOU WANTED TO ADD ANYTHING.

>> THIS YEAR STILL IMPORTANT AS EVERY YEAR TO GET YOUR FLU VACCINE. EVEN IF YOU GOT YOUR COVID VACCINE, THE FLU HAS NOT GONE AWAY AND THE COVID VACCINE WILL NOT PREVENTS FROM YOU GETTING THE FLU SO IMPORTANT TO GET YOUR FLU VACCINE AND GET IT EARLY.

>> DEBBIE INGALSBE: JUDGE, I WANTED TO ADD TO THANK TAMMY ALSO. LAST YEAR WE HAD THIS ITEM ON A LITTLE LATER. AND SHE HAS KEPT UP WITH THAT.

WE ARE OFFERING THESE VACCINES EARLIER NOW, WHICH I THINK IS BETTER FOR OUR EMPLOYEES AND THEIR DEPENDENTS.

AND SO I WANT TO THANK HER FOR HER VIGILANCE ON THAT FRONT.

>> JUDGE BECERRA: IF YOU NEED TO USE ME AGAIN LIKE YOU DID A FEW YEARS AGO WITH A SHOT IN THE ARM.

I BELIEVE IN THE EFFORT. AND COMMISSIONERS, GLAD ON 35 TO SEE THIS THING SHOVING OFF. I APPRECIATE THAT.

A BIG THING TO HAVE THAT POSITION FILLED AND TAKE A LOT OF LOAD OFF OF OTHER PEOPLE U USING THAT SPACE AND SHARING

THE COVERAGE. >> JUDGE, I APPRECIATE THAT.

AND WE DID -- WE DID -- WE HAD THE POSITION OPEN AND RECEIVED APPLICATIONS. WE DO HAVE A COUPLE OF -- OR

MORE QUALIFIED CANDIDATES. >> THE BOARD DID BELIEVE IT WAS GOOD TO GO OUT AND GET A BROADER NUMBER OF CANDIDATES TO APPLY. WE HAVE A GOOD NUMBER OF CANDIDATES FROM OUR REGION I WOULD SAY.

A COUPLE THAT WEREN'T. OUR FEELING WAS IF WE CAN SEE IF WE CAN BROADEN THAT NET TO SEE IF THERE WERE OTHERS.

THERE ARE REALLY GOOD CANDIDATES AND STILL BE IN THE CONSIDERATION FOR A POSITION THIS IMPORTANT AND COMPLEX WORKING WITH AS MANY DIFFERENT AGENCIES AS THERE ARE.

THE BOARD DID BELIEVE THAT CONTINUING THAT PROCESS WOULD BE GOOD. IN RECRUITMENT SERVICE WAS RECOMMENDED BY THE CITY OF KYLE.

THEYDID THIS BEFORE AND MISS MILLER IN HUMAN RESOURCES HAVE BEEN REACHING OUT TO THEM AND TALKING OF THE TYPE OF SERVICES -- I THINK SHE FOUND WAYS TO USE THEM FOR -- IN OTHER POSITIONS WITHIN THE COUNTY AS WELL.

BUT I WOULD APPRECIATE THAT SUPPORT SO THAT I KNOW THERE ARE A LOT OF IMPORTANT THINGS GOING ON RIGHT NOW.

ONE THING TO ADD. THE CITY OF SAN MARCOS HAS RECENTLY DECIDED TO JOIN THE SAME SYSTEM THAT WE USE WHICH IS THE NEW CAD AND RMS SYSTEM AND REALLY EXCITING TO KNOW THAT EVERY AGENCY IN HAYS COUNTY WILL USE THE EXACT SAME SYSTEM. AND WILL BE PARTNERING WITH US MOST LIKELY ON THE HOSTING OF THAT SYSTEM WITHIN OUR INFRASTRUCTURE. SO THAT IS A HUGE STEP TO GO FROM WHEN COMMUNICATION STARTED OVER 20 YEARS AGO AND TO BE AT

A POINT NOW WHERE EVERY SINGLE. >> I KNOW A LOT -- IT TOOK A LOT OF WORK AND I CAME IN ON THE TAIL END OF THAT CONVERSATION AND WATCHED AS SLOWLY AND METHODICALLY OTHER AGENCIES JOINED OUR COUNTY FAMILY ON THAT FRONT.

AND I KNOW IT TAKES A LOT OF WORK AND I KNOW THAT SPECIFICALLY YOU DID A LOT IN THAT SPACE.

YOU AND COMMISSIONER INGALSBE AND I WANT TOO THANK YOU BOTH FOR THAT CONTINUANCE DILIGENCE ON THAT FRONT.

I WOULD LIKE TO ASK ONE LAST QUESTION.

HOW IS A TIMELINE, TIME FRAME FOR THE STAFFING OF THAT

POSITION LOOKING? >> THE FIRM WE ARE DISCUSSING TODAY DID PROVIDE US WITH A -- A ESTIMATED TIMELINE.

THERE IS A COUPLE OF STEPS THAT WE COULD TAKE TO SPEED IT UP ONCE WE GET THEM STARTED DEPENDING ON HOW THINGS LOOK.

AND IF YOU GIVE ME ONE SECOND, JUDGE, I WILL FIND THEIR T

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I BELIEVE THEY WANTED TO FIRST TAKE A LOOK AT THE JOB DESCRIPTION AND WE ARE PREPARED TO DISCUSS THAT WITH THE MEMBERS AND MAKE SURE THAT IS DONE RIGHT THEY WILL POST THAT FOR INCOMING CANDIDATES TO PROVIDE INPUT ON THAT.

THEY HAVE A LIST OF FOLKS THAT THEY HAVE COMMUNICATED WITH AND IN FACT SHARED A JOB THAT THEY ARE CURRENTLY WORKING ON THAT IS VERY SIMILAR IN A DIFFERENT PART OF THE STATE AND THEY ALREADY HAVE A HEAD START. COULD BE AS LONG AS THREE OR FOUR MONTHS AND COULD BE SH SHORTENED DEPENDING ON WHAT THE INITIAL COMMUNICATION IS, AND EXACTLY HOW IN-DEPTH WE WANT THEM TO GET INTO INTERVIEW PROCESSES AND THINGS LIKE THAT WHERE FLEXIBILITY OF THAT. OUR GOAL IS TO USE THEM TO THE BEST OF THEIR ABILITY WHICH IS HIGHLY RECOMMENDED AND I AM EXPECTING THAT IT IS GOING TO BE AT THE MINIMUM A DECISION IS

SOME TIME EARLY 2022. >> I ANTICIPATE 15 WEEKS AND CAN SHORTEN THAT. I WILL JUST ADD TO THAT, JUDGE, AND JUST SAY -- WE ALL KNOW THIS IS A VERY IMPORTANT POSITION IN OUR EMERGENCY COMMUNICATIONS DIVISION.

AND I THINK IT WILL DO US WELL TO HAVE THE EXTENSIVE EXPERIENCE OF SGR TO HELP US WITH THEIR RECRUITMENT SER SERVICES. WE ARE ALL EXCITED TO GET THAT

POSITION FILLED FOR SURE. >> JUDGE BECERRA: THAT IS BEAUTIFUL. TO HEAR WE ARE WITHIN THE 90-DAY WINDOW TO COMPLETION OF THAT IS VERY, VERY ENCOURAGING.

THANK YOU, COMMISSIONERS FOR YOUR WORK AND UPDATE.

PLEASE CALL THE ROLE. >> MARK JONES: YES.

>> LON SHELL: YES. >> DEBBIE INGALSBE: YES.

>> WALT SMITH: YES. >> JUDGE BECERRA: YES.

[36. Discussion and possible action to authorize renewal of Hays County Auto, General, Law Enforcement, and Public Official liability coverage. The annual renewal premium is $423,203.00. BECERRA/MILLER]

WILL YOU PLEASE OPEN 36. >> MS. CARDENAS: 36, DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO AUTHORIZE RENEWAL OF HAYS COUNTY AUTO, GENERAL, LAW ENFORCEMENT AND PUBLIC OFFICIAL LIABILITY COVERAGE. THE ANNUAL RENEWAL PREMIUM IS

$423,203. >> MOVED.

>> SECOND. >> JUDGE BECERRA: WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND AND MISS MILLER IS HERE.

WOULD YOU MIND APPROACHING THE PODIUM AND SHARING SO WE CAN DIMINISH SOME OF THAT STICKER SHOCK THAT IS ON THE AGENDA.

IT IS WHAT IT IS. I HAVE GOT TO TALK ABOUT IT.

>> LISA MCCABE AND RISK MANAGEMENT CONSULTANT.

LISA, DEBRA AND I WORKED ON THE ANNUAL RENEWAL OF OUR A ALL-IMPORTANT AUDIT. SO THERE IS A -- THERE IS A LITTLE BIT OF STICKER SHOCK AND THE INCREASE -- TYPE OF COVERAGES THAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT AS WELL AS A NUMBER OF EMPLOYEES. AS OUR COUNTY EMPLOYEES HAVE SO MANY OTHER THINGS SO IS THE PRICE OF THE COVERAGE.

LISA MAY HAVE ADDITIONAL DETAIL OF THE CHANGE IN THE PREMIUM.

>> LISA MCCABE, YOUR RISK MANAGEMENT CONSULTANT WITH TEXAS ASSOCIATION OF COUNTIES. THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE HERE THIS MORNING. SO I DO WANT TO PROVIDE SOME ADDITIONAL DETAILS ON YOUR RENEWAL.

ON THE AUTO COVERAGE, IT IS MOSTLY DRIVEN BY THE EXPOSURE, THE INCREASE IN THE NUMBER OF VEHICLES.

ALSO LOSS RATIO DOES PLAY INTO THAT.

SO ANY TIME THAT OUR RISK CONTROL WITH PROVIDE SOME DEFENSIVE DRIVING FOR YOU, WE ARE GLAD TO DO THAT.

WHETHER IT BE AT THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE OR WITH YOUR ROAD AND BRIDGE CREWS. UNDER PUBLIC OFFICIALS, YOU ARE GOOD THERE. YOUR LAW ENFORCEMENT, WHERE NUMBERS HAVE INCREASED ON OFFICER COUNT AND THE EXPOSURE DRIVEN INCREASE THERE. AND THAT INCREASE LOOKS LIKE AN ADDITIONAL 117 EMPLOYEES BASED ON WHAT HE HAD LAST YEAR.

SO OTHERWISE, YOUR LOSSES ARE GOOD.

EVERYTHING IS EXPOSURE DRIVEN ON YOUR RENEWAL.

>> JUDGE BECERRA: 117 ADDITIONAL EMPLOYEES IN THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE. IF YOU DON'T HAVE IT, THAT IS OKAY. BUT DO YOU HAVE EASILY VISIBLE THE DOLLAR AMOUNT THAT TRANSLATES INTO IN THAT SHERIFF'S OFFICE ADDITION OF 117 EMPLOYEES?

>> WENT FROM 148,000 TO 175. SO I WOULD SAY -- $30,000.

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>> JUDGE BECERRA: 114 EMPLOYEES ADDED $30,000 IN

POLICY COVERAGE. >> LOOKS LIKE ABOUT A $10,000

-- WELL $10,000 ON OUR AUTO. >> $10 INCREASE IN PREMIUM FOR

THE AUTO COVERAGE. >> JUDGE BECERRA: HAVE WE -- I SHOULD ASK, HAVE WE DONE ON THE DEFENSIVE DRIVING PART OR ANYTHING ELSE OR ALL LOW HANGING FRUIT.

>> ALL ACCIDENTS AND THE VEHICLE SITUATIONS.

SOME OF THOSE SITUATIONS ARE OUT OF OUR CONTROL.

SOME OF THEM ARE SITUATIONS THAT ARE REVIEWED BY THE DEPARTMENTS IN -- THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE HAS AN ACCIDENT REVIEW BOARD. ANOTHER AREA WHERE WE HAVE SOME ACCIDENTS IS IN OUR TRANSPORTATION.

WHERE WE HAVE MOST OF OUR VEHICLES.

WHERE WE WILL HAVE MOST OF OUR ACCIDENTS.

SO IT IS ASSESSED AND REVIEWED AND THE NECESSARY TRAINING TO HAVE ADDITIONAL SITUATION FROM HAPPENING.

>> JUDGE BECERRA: WE HAVE AS LOW AS WE HAVE PREMIUM BASED ON TRAINING AND EDUCATIONAL COMPONENTS THAT ARE AVAILABLE

TO US. >> AS BEST WE CAN.

TRAINING IS ALWAYS ONGOING ESPECIALLY IN SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT WHERE YOU HAVE THAT TURNOVER.

>> JUDGE BECERRA: YOU BET. I AM NOT TRYING TO SAY THAT THE SHERIFF'S NEW EMPLOYEE POOL HAVE CAUSED HEARTACHE, BUT THAT ALL THE SAVINGS -- WE ARE PUSHING TOWARD ALL THE SAVINGS WE COULD HAVE. THANK YOU, BOTH.

COMMISSIONERS, ANY COMMENTS. >> THANK YOU FOR BEING PART OF THE RISK MANAGEMENT POOL. WE APPRECIATE YOU.

>> JUDGE BECERRA: WE KNOW IT IS AN OVERALL SAVINGS TO BE PART OF THAT POOL. WE KNOW AS A COUNTY, WE BENEFIT

FROM BEING A PART OF THAT POOL. >> THANK YOU.

>> LON SHELL: YES. >> DEBBIE INGALSBE: YES.

[37. Discussion and possible action to consider the distribution of the American Rescue Act Plan funds administered by the U.S. Department of the Treasury. BECERRA/INGALSBE]

>> MARK JONES: YES. >> WALT SMITH: YES.

>> JUDGE BECERRA: YES. OPEN.

>> MS. CARDENAS: 37, DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO CONSIDER THE DISTRIBUTION OF THE AMERICAN RESCUE ACT PLAN FUNDS ADMINISTERED BY THE U.S. DEPARTMENT OF THE TREASURY.

>> SO MOVED. >> SECOND.

>> JUDGE BECERRA: THANK YOU. THIS IS BEFORE US HERE TODAY BECAUSE IT IS THE MOST EFFICIENT AND COMPLETE WAY FOR US TO KEEP THE CONVERSATION GOING, PUSH THIS ALONG, AND SEEK UNDERSTANDING AND UPDATES OF WHAT IS TAKING PLACE AS WAS DISCUSSED IN FLORIDA CAMPISE'S MHDB UPDATE.

WE HAVE -- MY OFFICE -- ANITA SPECIFICALLY HAD NUMEROUS CONVERSATIONS THROUGHOUT THE DATE USING ARPA FUNDS FOR BR BRAND-NEW BRICK AND MORTAR AND I KNOW CONFUSION WHAT YOU CAN DO WITH TREASURY DISPENSED FUNDS AND SOME OF THAT CONFUSION HAS BEEN CLARIFIED. I KNOW THAT WE HAVE AN RFQ IN MOTION. WE HAVE A LOT OF THINGS IN MOTION, AND I KNOW THERE ARE GRANTS THAT SUPPLEMENT THE ARPA FUNDS AND ARE ALSO TIME SENSITIVE.

AND I JUST CAN'T HELP BUT FEEL LIKE WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF GOOD FOR OUR COMMUNITY AS A WHOLE.

AND WE COULD BE MOVING AT A PACE THAT I PROFESSIONAL AND POE LIGHT DON'T APPRECIATE. THIS IS WHY IT IS HERE.

IF IT IS OKAY WITH YOU, COMMISSIONER, BECAUSE YOU ARE A CO-SPONSOR OF THIS. I WOULD LIKE TO START WITH THE QUESTION OF THE STATUS OF OUR REQUEST.

MARISOL, IF YOU CAN TELL US WHERE WE ARE AT THIS POINT.

>> THE REQUEST FOR PROPOSAL. WE EXTENDED THE DEADLINE ONE WEEK AND WE EXPECT TO RECEIVE PROPOSALS FROM THE AGENCIES THAT ARE GOING TO SUBMIT ON OCTOBER 21 WHICH IS THIS WEEK AND THEN WE WILL SEND THAT OUT TO THE COMMITTEE TO REVIEW THE PROPOSALS TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO THE COURT AS FAR AS THE VEND OTHER THEY WOULD LIKE TO RECOMMEND TO THE COURT TO ASSIST US WITH THE MANAGEMENT OF THE ARPP FUNDS.

AT THIS POINT, I BELIEVE THE MEMBERS WHO WILL REVIEWING THE PROPOSAL IS COMMISSIONER SMITH, MARK KENNEDY AND VICKI FROM THE

AUDITOR'S OFFICE. >> JUDGE BECERRA: HOW DID WE

SHOOS THAT BODY TO REVIEW? >> AT THIS POINT, IT IS -- THE COURT DID NOT CHOOSE IT AND COMMISSIONER SMITH ASKED THAT HE BE INCLUDED AND GENERAL COUNSEL IS ALWAYS INVOLVED IN ANY OF THESE LARGER -- ESPECIALLY WITH FEDERAL FUNDING -- THESE LARGER PROPOSALS. AND WE HAVE SOMEONE FROM THE AUDITOR'S OFFICE BECAUSE OF THE FINANCING ASPECT OF IT.

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-- >> JUDGE BECERRA: LET ME START WITH THAT PART. WHAT DO YOU FEEL OF REP REPRESENTATION. A BODY THAT WAS QUASI CREATED.

>> I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT BODY.

>> DEBBIE INGALSBE: WAS THERE A THREE-MEMBER BOARD? DID YOU SAY COMMISSIONER SMITH, KENNEDY AND VICKI DORSETT? I AM OKAY -- I DON'T KNOW IF ANOTHER MEMBER OF THE COURT WANTS TO BE INVOLVED OR NOT. I AM NOT VOLUNTEERING.

I AM JUST OVER THAT -- THAT WOULD BE AN EVEN NUMBER THOUGH.

>> WALT SMITH: YOU ARE WELCOME TO FIND SOMEONE TO REPLACE ME

IF WOULD YOU LIKE. >> DEBBIE INGALSBE: IT IS

IMPORTANT THAT YOU ARE ON IT. >> JUDGE BECERRA: MR. KENNEDY, YOU ARE A GOOD WIT. WANT TO HAVE A CONVERSATION BECAUSE WE DIDN'T. AND I WANT TO ARTICULATE WITH A FINE GRANULATED THOUGHT PROCESS WHAT WE ARE DOING AND WHY.

AND A CONVERSATION WE HAVE. I KNOW COMMISSIONER SMITH DOESN'T FEEL JAB, BUT I WANT TO REITERATE NOT A JOB ON HIM.

COMMISSIONER SHELL. >> LON SHELL: I APPRECIATE THE RECOMMENDATION. I KEEP REITERATE THAT I AM STILL -- ANXIOUS TO SEE WHAT THE RESPONSES ARE OR IF IT IS SOMETHING WE SHOULD OR SHOULDN'T DO.

I WON'T KNOW UNTIL WE CAN SEE THAT.

>> JUDGE BECERRA: COMMISSIONER SMITH, YOU ARE GOOD BEING ON

THERE TO HELP REVIEW? >> WALT SMITH: I AM FINE BEING ON THERE TO REVIEW. THE ONE THING I WILL SAY IF YOU LOOK AT THE RFQ, ONE THE THINGS I THOUGHT WAS IMPORTANT IN THE DEVELOPMENT IS THE OUTREACH PORTION OF THAT.

WHEN I SAY THAT, I KNOW THAT EACH ONE OF THE COMMISSIONERS HAVE PRIORITIES THAT THEY WANT TO SEE OUT OF ARPA FUNDS, AS WELL AS THE JUDGE. WHAT I WANT TO ENSURE THAT WE DON'T HAVE CITIZENS WHO HAVEN'T HAD THAT OPPORTUNITY TO REACH OUT TO THE INDIVIDUAL COMMISSIONER TO THE JUDGE WHO DOESN'T KNOW ABOUT THOSE FUNDS AND DOESN'T KNOW HOW TO GO ABOUT ACCESSING THEM OR IF IT WOULD EVEN QUALIFY.

WITHIN THAT PROCESS, I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE AS A COUNTY DO A MUCH BETTER JOB THAN SOME OF THE OTHER PREVIOUS FUNDS AND ENSURING THAT PEOPLE UNDERSTAND WHAT IS AVAILABLE, WHY IT IS THERE AND HOW THEY CAN ACCESS IT.

WHAT I AM REALLY LOOKING FORWARD TO AND ONE OF THE THINGS I WAS VERY ADAMANT ABOUT IN THE DEVELOPMENT OF THAT RFQ.

THE ABILITY WHOEVER IS SELECTED -- IF WE WERE TO SELECT SOMEBODY, TO WORK WITH THE COURT AND TRY TO GET THAT INFORMATION OUT AND DEVELOP MULTIPLE MEANS TO ASSESS DIFFERENT PROJECTS THAT COME IN.

FOR EXAMPLE, I AM LOOKING AT A COUPLE OF THINGS THINK THAT KNOW WILL WORK. ONE THAT IS COUNTYWIDE FOR ALL THE COMMISSIONERS AND A JUDGE AS WELL, SPECIFICALLY TO WATER AND WASTEWATER. AND THOSE TYPE OF SITUATIONS, THAT IS SOMETHING THAT A LOCALIZED REGIONAL PARTNER WITHIN MY PRECINCT MAY NOT THINK IS A PRIORITY, BUT I KNOW THAT COUNTYWIDE IT IS. AND IN ONE PORTION OF MY PRECINCT, IT COULD BE. BUT BY GETTING THAT INFORMATION OUT AND TRULY PALATABLE WAY THAT THE PUBLIC CAN UNDERSTAND.

I THINK IT WILL DO US A WHOLE LOT OF GOOD IN FINDING THOSE PROJECTS OUT THERE THAT WHILE WE ARE TALKING ABOUT -- YOU KNOW ONE EXAMPLE WE HAVE SPENT MONEY ON IS THE PDO WHERE WE ARE TALKING OF AN ABSOLUTELY LARGE POT OF MONEY.

THE $5 MILLION OUT OF THAT OVERALL POT.

I AM ALSO VERY CONCERNED WITH THAT $5,000 GRANT THAT AN ORGANIZATION IN SAN MARCOS MAY NEED TO MAKE IT THROUGH THE END OF THE YEAR ON A SPECIFIC PROJECT THAT WE WON'T KNOW UNLESS WE DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT THAT IS PUBLIC FACING IF

THAT MAKES SENSE. >> JUDGE BECERRA: IT DOES.

IT DOES. VICKI, IN THE PAST THROUGH SHERRY'S HELP AND GUIDANCE WE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY AS A COURT TO BE AS UNIFORM IN APPROACH AS POSSIBLE, AND SO IF -- I DON'T WANT TO PUT YOU ON THE SPOT, BUT IF ONE HAVEN'T BEEN CREATED, I ASK THAT YOU CREATE A SHEET, A SCORECARD OF SORTS TO HAVE UNIFORMITY OF THE PROCESS.

I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY HAVE APPLIED OR WILL APPLY, BUT IF WE CAN HAVE SOME TYPE OF UNIFORMITY OF THE PROCESS OF THE AUDITOR'S OFFICE, CHECKING THE BOX AND ASKING CONSISTENCY IN THE PROCESS. ASKING SAME TYPES OF QUESTIONS JUST SO EVERYONE HAS A MOST UNIFORMED WAY OF BEING

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WHAT WILL BE DONE ON THAT FR FRONT?

>> ACTUALLY THAT IS PART OF THE SOLICITATION.

WE ANTICIPATE THAT WHOMEVER THE COURT CHOOSES AS THE PROGRAM ADMINISTRATOR WOULD ASSIST IN DEVELOPING THOSE TYPES OF GUIDELINES FOR THE COURT'S CONSIDERATION.

JUDGE I AM TALKING ABOUT THE -- >> JUDGE BECERRA: I AM TALKING OF THE EARLIER STAGE WHO WILL PICK AND MANAGE THE INTERVIEW

PROCESS. >> THAT IS ACTUALLY IN THIS --

>> JUDGE BECERRA: I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE A DEFENDABLE MECHANIC NOYCHL SAY THESE ARE THE THREE, FIVE, 12 ORGANIZATIONS THAT HAVE APP APPLIED.

>> YOU WANT THE UNIFORMITY IN THE PROCESS.

>> JUDGE BECERRA: IN CHOOSING. >> AN RFP, NOT A RFQ.

THERE WILL BE SCORING CRITERIA IN ALL OF THE RFPS.

THERE IS A POSSIBLY ALSO TO INTERVIEW.

IT IS NOT A REQUIREMENT, BUT WE CAN HOLD INTERVIEWS.

WE CAN FURTHER DEVELOP THAT LIST BUT WE WILL NEED POST AN ADDENDUM TO A RFP AND HAVE THAT CHANGES IF THERE IS ANY CHANGES

TO THE SCORING CRITERIA. >> JUDGE BECERRA: THAT IS NOT WHAT I AM LOOKING FOR. WANT TO DEFEND THE COURT'S ACTIONS TO THE PUBLIC AS WE PICK OUR ORGANIZATION.

AND I WOULD LIKE FOR IT TO BE THE EXECUTIVE SESSION ITEM AND WHO, WHAT, WHEN AND WHY YOU MADE THE CHOICE YOU DID.

I WANT TO WALK AWAY AS COUNTYWIDE RECOMMENDATION OF ANY CORNER TO EXPLAIN WHY THESE FOLKS WERE CHOSEN, THAT'S IT.

>> SO THERE ARE USUALLY COMMENTS AND MEETINGS HELD WITHIN THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS THAT ARE ON REVIEW COMMITTEE.

YOU CAN INCREASE THAT NUMBER. THE THREE OF US WERE ASKED TO PARTICIPATE. WE CAN INCREASE THAT IF THE COURT SHOULD CHOOSE. WE WOULD FOLLOW LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE OF HOW WE MANAGE ALL OF OUR FORMAL

SOLICITATIONS. >> JUDGE BECERRA: RIGHT ON.

>> THE ONE THING I WILL SAY -- WHO KNOWS HOW MANY -- THEY ARE

DUE THURSDAY, CORRECT? >> CORRECT.

>> I LOOKED AT THE SYSTEM THE OTHER DAY -- IT WAS DOWNLOADED 30 TIMES FOR SOMETHING. WE MAY GET ONE APPLICATION OR WE MAY GET 30, WE DON'T KNOW. .

OTHER THING THAT I WILL SAY WHENEVER YOU ASKED YOUR QUESTION A MOMENT AGO TO GO A STEP FURTHER.

JUST LIKE VICKI, I THOUGHT YOU MEANT ON THE ACTUAL APPLICANTS, NOT THE RFP. ONE OF THE THINGS AS WE ENVISION WHAT THIS LOOKS LIKE, THE TREASURY GUIDELINES ARE REALLY DIRECT. THOSE OVERALL GUIDELINES.

AND THIS IS MAYBE A SIMPLE WAY TO BREAK IT DOWN, BUT THIS IS THE EXAMPLE I WILL USE. WHENEVER I WAS KID, I WOULD CHOOSE THE ADVENTURE BOOK AND A PAGE AND ASK A QUESTION AND DIRECT YOU TO ANOTHER PAGE. IT DIRECTS YOU AND I WOULD ENVISION SOMEONE SIMILAR TO THAT ELECTRONICALLY FOR THE SELECTION PROCESS OR REVIEW OF THOSE APPLICANTS AND COMMUNITY MEMBERS AND ORGANIZATIONS THAT ARE LOOKING FOR ASSISTANCE FROM THE COUNTY THROUGH THESE FUNDS. AND IN A PERFECT WORLD OR AS WE REVIEW THESE, BY ANSWER BEING FIVE QUESTIONS, WE WILL KNOW WHETHER OR NOT THOSE ENTITIES WOULD QUALIFY UNDER ONE OF THOSE FIVE GENERAL CATEGORIES. NOW IF THEY DON'T QUALIFY UNDER ONE OF THOSE FIVE GENERAL CATEGORIES, I WOULD HOPE THAT BY FILLING OUT THAT APPLI APPLICATION, WE WILL HAVE ENOUGH INFORMATION ON THOSE PROJECTS AND ON THOSE ENTITIES TO SAY, LOOK, -- YOU MADE THIS CHOICE AND YOU DON'T QUALIFY; HOWEVER, WE KNOW BY READING YOUR OPTION AND BACKGROUND, IF YOU CHANGE THE FOCUS SLIGHTLY OR MODIFY YOUR PROJECT OR PROGRAM TO ASSIST PEOPLE WITHIN OUR COUNTY, AND YOU MADE A DIFFERENT CHOICE RIGHT HERE, GUESS WHAT, YOU ACTUALLY WOULD QUALIFY UNDER THIS AND HERE IS HOW TO DO IT.

HERE IS HOW WE HELP WITH THE DECISION POINTS TO THE MEMBERS

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AND THIS IS THE REASONING BEHIND WANTING RFP IN THE FIRST PLACE BECAUSE WE, AGAIN, I TALKED TO MEMBERS OF CONGRESS AND THE APPROPRIATION COMMITTEE WHO DRAFTED THE BILL AND SAID NOT FOR BRICK AND MORTAR IF IT WAS ALREADY STARTED AND DEL DELAYEDED BY COVID. THE JUDGE HAS OTHER DIRECTION.

I AM NOT SURE WHO HE TALKED TO. WE NEED DIRECTION AND HAVE SOMEONE WHO CAN WALK US THROUGH THAT, WORK WITH TREASURY AND GET ANSWERS ON THAT SPECIFIC QUESTION.

GET US TO FIT IN THOSE BOXES AND FIGURE OUT HOW TO GET THE CORRECT PATH OF WHERE WE NEED TO SOMEBODY WHERE I SEE THE

BENEFIT. >> JUDGE BECERRA: RIGHT ON.

I THINK YOUR IDEA OF SHAKING OUT ARTICULATIONS OF COMMUNITY EFFORTS IS A GREAT ONE, BECAUSE WE WANT TO HELP AS MANY PEOPLE AS WE CAN AND INTO BETTER WAY THAN THE CHOOSE YOUR OWN

ADVENTURE MODEL. >> I KNOW IT IS A BAD ANALOGY.

>> JUDGE BECERRA: NO, IT IS GREAT.

BECAUSE APPROACH IT AT A OPEN MIND AND HEART -- GO AHEAD.

>> DEBBIE INGALSBE: NO, YOU GO AHEAD.

>> JUDGE BECERRA: IF MR. KENNEDY -- I KNOW WE REACHED OUT TO MR. KENNEDY ABOUT ANY -- IF YOU DON'T HAVE AN ANSWER, THAT'S WHAT WE WILL KNOW. IF THERE IS ANY CLARIFICATION THAT YOU HAVE ON THE CONGRESSMAN TELLING ME WE CAN USE IT FOR BRICK AND MORTAR AND WE HAVE THE BACK AND FORTH, YES YOU CAN, NO, YOU CAN'T. YES, YOU CAN.

NO, YOU CAN'T. >> THERE MIGHT BE A WAY TO GET

A DEFINITE ANSWER. >> WALT SMITH: INTERACTION WITH U.S. TREASURIES OR FOLKS THAT KNOW THEIR RULES FRONT WAYS AND BACK WAYS. WHEN THE TOMB COMES WE CAN PUT THEM FORWARD, ASK A QUESTION AND GET AN ANSWER.

TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, JUDGE, SOME CONSTRUCTION AND ACCESSORY OF REAL ESTATE COULD BE ARGUED UNDER CERTAIN CIRCUMSTANCES.

YOU HAVE TO, I THINK, TIE IT BACK TO COVID RELATED ISSUES AND WAYS TO DO THAT. THEY HAD THAT CONVERSATION WITH THE PUBLIC DEFENDER'S OFFICE WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT THAT SOME WEEKS AGO REASONABLE MINDS WILL ARGUE THESE ISSUES AND DEBATE AND ASK THE QUESTION IF WE FEEL THAT THE PROJECT IS WORTH

ASKING THE QUESTION FOR. >> GOT IT BE A WAY WE CAN GO TO THE TREASURY, GIVE US A LETTER SAYING THIS IS OKAY AND WE DON'T HAVE TO WORRY OF IT COMING BACK AND BITING US L

LATER. >> EXACTLY RIGHT.

THE SPECIFIC PURPOSE OF ME PRESSING ON AS I HAVE BEEN, IS -- I MADE NO I DON'T HIDE IT WHATSOEVER.

AND MAKE A BEELINE. SO MY SENSE OF URGENCY IS, THERE ARE ADDITIONAL GRANTS TO SUPPLEMENT THE ARPA FUNDS WITH OTHER COUNTIES ARE APPLYING FOR THAT WE ARE HAVING CONVERSATIONS WITH THAT ARE EXPIRING AND WE HAVE NOT DONE, I FEEL, AGAIN, THE PACE OF WHICH I CAN APPRECIATE.

NOT A JAB ON THE GENERAL COUNSEL, COMMISSIONERS, BUT AS AN OVERALL GOVERNMENT, WE HAVE NOT MOVED IN A PACE THAT WILL MAXIMIZE THE FEDERAL RESOURCES AVAILABLE TO HELP AS A COUNTY AND THAT IS WHAT I AM FEELING A SENSE OF URGENCY ABOUT BECAUSE THERE ARE SUPPLEMENT DOLLARS THAT WE ARE GOING TO APPLY FOR

BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE THIS. >> I THINK WE ALL HAD PROJECTS THAT WERE NEW BUILDINGS THAT WHEN WE FOUND THAT OUT, IT WAS KIND OF LIKE A PUNCH IN THE STOMACH.

I THINK WE ARE IN THE SAME BOAT.

>> DEBBIE INGALSBE: THE ONLY THING I WILL MENTION -- AND I AGREE WE NEED TO FIND OUT WHETHER OR NOT WE CAN USE THE FUNDS FOR BRICK AND MORTARS. BECAUSE AT THE VERY LAST SESSION AT THE STATE CONFERENCE DISCUSSION ABOUT ARPA FUNDING -- FROM TARRANT COUNTY JUDGE -- JUST LOST IT COMPLETELY.

THANK YOU SAID THAT NAACO WAS MISTAKEN OF USING ARPA FUNDING THAT YOU CAN IN FACT CAN. AND I THINK WE NEED TO GET A --

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USUALLY IF IT IS A ROAD PROJECT, WE GO WITH THE LOWEST BID. THIS IS A PROFESSIONAL SERVICE AND I AM NOT SURE WE ARE TAKE THAT ROUTE AND WE NEGOTIATE LATER AND I AGREE WITH MY COLLEAGUES THAT NEED TO MAKE CERTAIN THAT WE SPEND THE FUNDING ON PROJECTS AND MINDFUL THAT WHEN IT COMES TO NEGOTIATIONS ON THE CAST OF WHOEVER MAY CHOOSE TO HELP WITH US THIS THAT WE KEEP THAT IN

MIND. >> IT MAY NOT -- JUST RATHER NEW BUILDINGS QUALIFY. WE WANT ALL OF OUR PROJECTS TO BE APPROVED BEFORE WE MOVE FORWARD.

>> AS AN -- I HAVE BEEN SEEKING CLARIFICATION ON AND JUST ANOTHER EXAMPLE WATER LINES AND SEWAGE LINES GOING INTO THE COUNTY THAT LITERALLY AND THE THREE THAT WE KNOW QUALIFY.

THE THREE INFRASTRUCTURE THINGS THAT WE KNOW QUALIFY AND.

IN SAN MARCOS AND KYLE, NEW SEWAGE LINES GOING IN AND RESIDENTS -- ESTABLISHED RESIDENTS THAT HO CAN'T AFFORD THE FEE. IN DRIPPING SPRINGS, WE HAVE BRAND-NEW WATER LINES GOING IN BUT RESIDENTS HAULING WATER F FOR, IN SOME CASES, 10 TO 15 YEARS AND THEY CAN'T DRILL A WELL BECAUSE THEIR PROPERTY IS TOO SMALL AND THEY LOST THEIR WATER -- THEIR MUNICIPAL WATER SYSTEM WENT OUT TO BUSINESS.

THEY CAN'T AFFORD THE FEE TO TAP INTO THAT WATER LINE.

ONE THING I THOUGHT ESTABLISHMENT ON WAS OF A REVOLVING LOAN FUND. WE COULD PUT A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF MONEY IN THE COUNTY AND HOLD THAT MONEY.

A RESIDENT CAN COME IN AND SAY MY TAP FEE IS $10,000 IN SAN MARCOS. I AM NOT SURE WHAT IT IS HERE.

$10,000. THEY CAN BORROW THAT MONEY FROM THE COUNTY AT LITTLE TO NO INTEREST, MAYBE NO INTEREST, BUT WHENEVER THEY -- WE GIVE THEM FOUR, FIVE, SIX YEARS TO PAY THAT BACK INSTEAD OF THAT KHUJ COMING OUT OF THEIR POCKET RIGHT THEN ON THEIR PROPERTY TAXES OR A MECHANISM, AND THE FEDERAL USES THAT MONEY THAT IS SPENT FIRST TIME IT GOES OUT THE TOWARD AND HELP THOUSANDS OVER TIME AND.

STAYS IN THE COUNTY AND CAN CONTINUE TO USE IT FOR THAT.

THERE ARE IDEAS THAT, AGAIN, WE NEED FURTHER CLARIFICATION.

>> JUDGE BECERRA: I LOVE THAT IDEA, FOR EXAMPLE.

A MAGNIFICENT PLAN TO HELP -- LET ME TELL YOU, I MAKE -- AN EMOTIONAL CLEANSE FOR ME, YOU KNOW, EGO GETS IN THE WAY OF ALL OF US IN ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.

AND TO BE OPEN LIKE I HAVE EVER BEEN, I LIVED WITH ZERO AND IT IS HORRIBLE AND I WILL NEVER FORGET IT.

WHAT YOU ARE SUGGESTING IS AN ABSOLUTE BREATH OF FRESH AIR IN A PLACE THINK THAT KNOW PERSONALLY FIRSTHAND HAS BEEN AND SUCH A BLESSING AND THAT IS EXACTLY GREAT NEWS.

AND I THINK IT IS A PERFECT IDEA.

I KNOW IT WOULD BE A LITTLE EXTRA WORK FOR THE AUDITOR'S OFFICE OR SOMEONE ELSE, BUT I KNOW A GREAT USE OF OUR RESOURCES TO INVEST IN A PROGRAM LIKE THAT.

IT IS BEAUTIFUL. SO IS THERE SOMETHING WE CAN DO -- BECAUSE AGAIN SOME OF THESE GRANTS ARE EXPIRING.

SOMETHING WE CAN DO AS A COURT THAT SAYS SOME GENERAL DIRECTION ON THE BRICK AND MORTAR ROAD FRONT THAT WE COULD -- I DON'T HIDE IT.ÚI WANT TO BH HOSPITAL AND TOTALLY EASILY DEFENSIBLE THAT COVID-19 HAS EFFECTED MENTAL HEALTH OF OUR COMMUNITY. IF WE WICK ONE, TWO, FIVE THINGS TO TELL US, TREASURY, WHAT QUALIFIES.

THIS RPP PROCESS COULD BE A LITTLE LONGER THAN I WOULD LIKE AGAIN. SOMETHING TO PRIME THE PUMP ON THAT FRONT THAT THE COMMISSIONERS COURT WOULD BE COMFORTABLE WITH TO GET AN OPINION?

>> I CAN TELL THAT YOU I REACHED OUT DIRECTLY TO TREASURY ON A COUPLE OF THINGS AND THEY HAVE -- THEY HAVE A PORTAL THAT YOU CAN SEND A QUESTION ABOUT.

AND SO I WOULD -- I WOULD JUST -- I WOULD ENCOURAGE ALL OF US

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INDIVIDUALLY RIGHT NOW. >> THE ST.

THE ISSUE BECOMES -- IF WE ARE GOING TO SUBMIT AND SAY THIS IS WHAT WE WANT. WE AS A COURT HAS TO DECIDE THIS IS SPECIFICALLY WHAT WE WANT AND EACH ONE OF CUSS DO

INDIVIDUALLY NOW. >> JUDGE BECERRA: AS MANY OF US HAVE DONE, WE HAVE MANY OPINIONS AND THAT IS THE PROBLEM. WHAT ABOUT A TIMELINE.

HELP WALK ME THROUGH THIS. A TIMELINE FOR THE RPP PROCESS OF A VERY IMPORTANT POSITION AND COMMISSIONER SHELL -- WHAT IS THE DEADLINE FOR THIS TO BE PUSHED OFF AND CHOSEN.

WHAT IS REASONABLE? >> CLOSES THURSDAY AT 2:00.

>> IT WILL BE SENT OUT TYPICALLY BY FRIDAY TO THE REVIEW COMMITTEE. SO WE WOULD NEED TO KNOW TODAY IF THERE ARE OTHER INDIVIDUALS THAT YOU WANTED TO ADD TO THAT REVIEW COMMITTEE OR IT WOULD BE JUST SENT TO THOSE THREE OR THERE WAS A COMMENT THAT WE MIGHT COME BACK AND GO INTO EFFECT AND TALK WHO WE ARE CHOOSING.

AND WE DON'T TYPICALLY DISCUSS THE DETAIL OF THE REVIEW COMMITTEE. AND THE DETAILS OF SOLICITATION ARE NOT SUBJECT TO OPEN RECORDS UNTIL A CONTRACT AWARD IS MADE.

SO -- I AM NOT SURE THAT WE ARE FOLLOWING THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE FOR PROCUREMENT OR SOLICITATION.

IF -- FOR THE REVIEW COMMITTEE WE WOULD PROBABLY DO THAT TODAY. IT WOULD TYPICALLY TAKE A COUPLE OF WEEKS OF REVIEW. THERE COULD BE CLARIFYING QUESTIONS SENT TO VENDORS AND ALSO THERE COULD BE INTERVIEWS SCHEDULED. SO I WOULD ANTICIPATE FOUR WEEKS BEFORE THE COMMITTEE WOULD HAVE A RECOMMENDATION.

>> JUDGE BECERRA: ANYWAY, I AM NOT CREATING HEADACHES.

PLEASE, NEVER TAKE ANYTHING THAT I SUGGEST -- I AM SO GRATEFUL TO HAVE THE DEPARTMENT HEADS EVERYWHERE.

DO NOT FEEL TO TAKE EVERYTHING THAT I SUGGEST THAT MAY NOT BE THE PROPER FORMAT AS DIRECTION IF YOU KNOW BETTER.

>> I WANTED TO POINT THAT OUT AND MAKE SURE THERE WAS NOT AN EXPECTATION THAT THE COMMITTEE WOULD COME BACK TO DISCUSS ALL

OF THESE. >> JUDGE BECERRA: PUT PUTTING PRESSURE, IS THERE A WAY WE CAN SHORTEN THAT MR. KENNEDY, A MAX OF THREE WEEKS OF CLOSING WITH RECOMMENDATION?

ONLY THREE OF YOU GUYS. >> I THINK WE CAN CERTAINLY GET TO WORK ON IT PRETTY QUICKLY. I HAVE REDISTRICTING AND POSAC.

JUDGE JUDGE I KNOW YOU HAVE A LOT ON YOUR PLATE.

>> I WILL ALSO CAUTION THAT WE GET FOUR APPLICATIONS OR FOUR RESPONSES, IT IS GOING TO BE A WHOLE LOT DIFFERENT THAN IF WE

GET 26. >> JUDGE BECERRA: THAT IS T

TRUE. >> I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY.

SOMETIMES -- >> DO THE BEST YOU CAN DO.

>> JUDGE BECERRA: I GUESS IT IS TRUE.

>> SOMETIMES AN INDICATOR IS THE NUMBER QUESTIONS YOU GET DURING THE RFP TIMELINE WHEN IT IS PENDING AND RESPONDED TO 47 QUESTIONS ON THIS RFP LAST WEEK.

SO THAT TELLS ME IT IS GOING TO BE A ROBUST RESPONSE.

AND I AM A LITTLE WORRIED OF TRYING TO PUT A TIMELINE ON IT KNOWING THAT WE DON'T KNOW THE THE ONLY REASON I SAY FOR A HURRIED PACE FOR THE OTHER GRANTS THAT WE HAVEN'T APPLIED

FOR. >> THE THREE OF THEM KNOW THE

URGENCY. >> JUDGE BECERRA: I KNOW YOU

KNOW IT. >> MY OTHER QUESTION IS DO YOU HAVE CLARIFICATION NOW ON THOSE SUPPLEMENTAL GRANTS.

MOST OF THE DEADLINES ARE DECEMBER 31 OR WHEN?

DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA? >> JUDGE BECERRA: SO I DON'T HAVE IT IN FRONT OF ME RIGHT NOW ONE EXPIRING WITHIN 30 DAYS AND I DON'T WANT BEAT A DEAD HORSE OF INFORMATION ASKED AND

ANSWERS. >> IF YOU HAVE SPECIFIC SHARE IT WITH US. THAT WOULD BE GREAT.

>> JUDGE BECERRA: A SENSE OF URGENCY TO MOVE THINGS ALONG SO WE DON'T MISS FUNDING OPPORTUNITIES.

ANYBODY ELSE AS A CO-SPONSOR. >> DEBBIE INGALSBE: I DON'T BELIEVE SO, JUDGE, AND I GUESS -- WELL, I SAY I DON'T BELIEVE SO AND HERE I AM GOING TO SAY SOMETHING.

I KNOW THAT A WHILE BACK EACH MEMBER TO HAVE PROJECTS TO BEGIN VETTING. I DIDN'T SUBMIT ANYTHING.

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I DO HAVE A LIST. I DON'T KNOW WHEN WE START TALKING ABOUT PARTICULAR PROJECTS WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE DONE, BUT SOME POINT IT WILL BE GOOD TO GET THAT.

>> WE MAY WANT TO WAIT FOR REDISTRICTING.

>> DEBBIE INGALSBE: OR IF WE GET SOMEBODY ON.

I DON'T KNOW IF WE WOULD HAVE DONE SOME WORK OR GENERAL COUNSEL COULD HAVE DONE SOME WORK PRIOR TOO THAT.

I DON'T KNOW IF THAT HELPS TO EXPEDITE THE PROCESS.

NOT THE SELECTION -- >> JUDGE BECERRA: GREAT POINT, COMMISSIONER. WE COULD PRIME THE PUMP.

>> WE ARE HAPPY TO STILL RECEIVE ANY INFORMATION THAT YOU CARE TO PROVIDE. I DON'T THINK WE GOT MUCH OF A

RESPONSE. >> I RESPONDED.

>> JUDGE BECERRA: OOH. >> THEN I WILL START WORKING ON

KOMDZ SHELL'S. >> JUDGE BECERRA: MINE IS A MENTAL HEALTH HOSPITAL, DONE. I ONLY HAVE ONE PROJECT.

THE ONLY -- I HAVE A REALLY NARROW FOCUS ON THIS FRONT.

AND I KNOW IT IS VERY SIGNIFICANT.

AND I KNOW IT TOUCHES EVERYONE'S FAMILIES AND CONSTITUENTS AND EVEN OUR COUNTY FAMILY.

I ONLY HAVE ONE ASK, ONE GOAL, AND THAT IS FOR US TO HAVE THAT

MENTAL HEALTH HOSPITAL. >> DEBBIE INGALSBE: JUDGE, I KNOW WE TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT AN ASSESSMENT REGARDING THAT DURING THE BUDGET PROCESS. IS THAT SOMETHING THEIR WILLING

TO TRY TO ACCOMPLISH? >> JUDGE BECERRA: THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER. YOU ARE MAKING MY HEART GO PITTER-PATTER. THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT I HOPED WOULD COME OUT OF THESE CONVERSATIONS FOR US TO -- BECAUSE THAT TAKES TIME TOO FOR US TO PUSH OFF ON A RFQ FOR QUALIFICATIONS OR P FOR PROPOSAL.

TO DPERNL WE COULD SHOVE OFF BE AN ASSESSMENT.

SEVERAL ASSESSMENTS THERE. I CAN TELL YOU WE HAVE SOME AS FAR BACK AS 2003, COMMISSIONER SHELL, IS THAT RIGHT? WE HAVE ONE IN 2003. 2009.

SEVERAL ASSESSMENTS MADE AND TEXAS STATE UNIVERSITY WITH DR.

MARTINEZ AND DR. WATT AND THE REST OF THEIR TEAM AND A SUNSHINE OF EXTRA PEOPLE IN THE REGION THAT CAN POPULATION AN ASECRETARIESMENT, BUT LOVE FOR US AS A COURT TO GET BEHIND THE IDEA OF GRABBING THE INFORMATION OUT THERE AND PROPERLY SHELTERING A FRESH UPDATE FOR US TO CONFIRM.

I WILL SAY IT THAT WAY, TO CONFIRM WHAT IS DESPERATE NEED.

>> AS FAR AS THE NEEDS ASSESSMENT, I DON'T -- I CAN'T IMAGINE A NEEDS ASSESSMENT IS NOT GOING TO SAY A NEED.

FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, WE HAVE -- WE HAVE DHS.

WE HAVE POTENTIAL FOR PRIVATE PARTICIPATION.

WE HAVE MENTIONED SURROUNDING COUNTIES.

OF COURSE WE ARE ON A LINE BETWEEN TWO DIFFERENT SERVICE PROVIDER SO AS BLUE BONNET AND HILL COUNTRY.

CAN'T SAY THAT THERE CAN'T BE SOME COORDINATION BETWEEN THE TWO, BUT I THINK THAT -- AN ASSESSMENT ALONG WITH DAHS AND HILL COUNTRY IS WHERE I WOULD START WHAT COULD BE DONE AND WHAT OTHER FUNDS ARE AVAILABLE. HOW IS IT OPERATED BECAUSE, JUDGE, WE HAD A PRIVATE CONVERSATION ABOUT THIS AND COMMISSIONER JONES AND I MET WITH REGIONAL STAKEHOLDERS ON THIS ISSUE AT MULTIPLE TIMES AND A DEFINITE NEED AND DEFINITE AGREEMENT OF THE NEED. THE QUESTION IS WHO OPERATES IT. WHERE IS IT BUILT? WHERE IS IT PAID? BUILDING IT? THE COUNTY WITH BUILD ONE BUT THE COUNTY CAN'T OPERATE ONE AND WHERE HILL COUNTRY HAS TO COME IN.

I THINK WE SHOULD ASK THE QUESTION OF A STUDY OF THIS SPECIFICALLY TO THE TREASURY OR WHOEVER RIGHT NOW.

AND GET STARTED ON THAT AND SAY CAN WE EXTEND IT WITH A STUDY.

I DON'T THINK THERE IS A PROBLEM WITH THE STUDY AND CAN WE ASK THE QUESTION, CAN WE USE THESE FUNDS TO STEADY THE NEEDS FOR NEW OR EXPANDING PUBLIC AND PRIVATE FACILITIES AND I AM ASSUMING THAT THE ANSWER WILL BE YES AND WORK WITH HILL COUNTRY AND OF WHO SHOULD WE DO THIS AND WHO WILL BE THE PARTNERS AND WHAT WILL IT LOOK LIKE.

LET'S ASSUME THAT WE HAVE THE FUNDING TO BUILD A BUILDING AND HOW DOES IT OPERATE. I THINK THIS STUDY WOULD HELP

US WITH. >> DEBBIE INGALSBE: I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY I AGREE AND THIS IS WHERE I WAS GOING WITH THIS

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AND WHEREVER. >> GRANTS.

>> I THINK VERY MUCH A DIFFERENCE IN THE ASSESSMENT AND THE DECISION FOR THE COUNTY TO BUILD A HOSPITAL.

>> DEBBIE INGALSBE: OH, SURE. >> MY BIGGEST CONCERN -- RIGHT NOW A CONCERN WHEN WE RAN FOR OPTION.

WE COULD REMEMBER THE DEBATE AND IN YOUR RACE AND MINE AND WE NEED THE COUNTY TO BUILD A HOSPITAL IN THE NORTHERN PART OF THE COUNTY. AND A LOT OF DISCUSSION AROUND THAT. AND I THINK IT IS VERY TELLING THAT RIGHT NOW AT ONE POINT EVERY -- THE MAJORITY OF THE HOSPITALS IN THE STATE WERE CUNTY OWNED.

WHAT WE FOUND ARE VERY, VERY FEW ARE AND THE LARGEST COST CENTER FOR THE COUNTY. I SAW STATISTIC.

82% OF THE HOSPITALS THAT ARE PUBLICLY OWNED THAT ARE EITHER LOCALLY OWNED BY COUNTY -- BY CITIES AND MUNICIPALITIES OR COUNTIES ARE LOSING MONEY RIGHT NOW FOR THEIR CONSTITUENTS.

OVER -- 82.3% OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

OF THE INPATIENT BEDS IN THE STATE OF TEXAS, THE ASSESSMENT NEEDS THAT THEY SAY. NOW THIS IS DIFFERENT BECAUSE OF COVID. AND AT THIS POINT POINT, BUT TEXAS HAS THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF 9,000 MORE BEDS THAT WOULD BE PRESCRIBED UNDER THE -- OR EXPECTED UNDER THE FORMULA THAT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT USES. WHAT THEY FOUND IN THESE COUNTIES, VICTORIA, OTHER COUNTIES THAT STILL HAVE THOSE HOSPITALS, THEY FOUND THAT THEY HAD VISIONS THIS WAS GOING TO BE A GREAT REGIONAL MEDICAL CENTER AND WE ARE GOING TO GET ALL THESE MONEY FROM THE OTHER COUNTIES AND SENT OUR PEOPLE HERE. WHAT THEY DIDN'T REALIZE THEY SEND THEIR PEOPLE THERE, BUT THEY DON'T GET MONEY FROM THOSE COUNTIES. WHAT HAPPENS IS YOUR INDIVIDUAL CONSTITUENTS, THE COST PER INDIVIDUAL RESIDENT IN YOUR COUNTY FOR MEDICAL NEEDS GOES UP BECAUSE THEY ARE SUPP SUPPLEMENTAL THE MEDICAL COVERAGE FOR THE EIGHT SURROUNDING CONFERS AND WHATEVER IT MAY BE AND I DON'T WANT TO SEE THAT HAPPEN IN OUR COUNTRY.

IF THERE IS -- IN OUR COUNTY. IF THERE IS A WAY -- WE ALSO KNOW THERE ARE AT LEAST TWO PRIVATE HOSPITAL GROUPS LOOKING TO BUILD FACILITIES IN OUR COUNTY RIGHT NOW.

AND SO THEY -- THEY DEFINITELY KNOW THERE IS A MENTAL HEALTH NEED AND THEY WANT TO ASSESS THAT.

THEY WANT TO ADDRESS THAT. FOR THEM NONPROFIT OAR FOR PROFIT. THEY HAVE A NEED THAT THEY CAN ADDRESS. WILL BE WILLING TO LOOK AT AN ASSESSMENT AND SUPPORTIVE OF ASSESSMENT OVER HOW SOMETHING LIKE THAT CAN WORK AND I TELL YOU VERY, VERY HARD FOR ME TO SUPPORT THE COUNTY OWNING A HOSPITAL AND WHAT -- EVERYTHING

ELSE THAT GOES ALONG WITH IT. >> JUDGE BECERRA: I APPRECIATE THAT A TISHLINGLATION COMMISSIONER SHELL AND I HAD A PRIVATE MEETING AND I WENT TO HIS OFFICE BECAUSE I HAVE NO PROBLEM SAYING IT IN WHATEVER SPACE I AM IN.

COMMISSIONER SHELL HAS A WEALTH OF KNOWLEDGE AND INFORMATION AND EXPERIENCE THAT I PERSONALLY APPRECIATE.

I WAS ASKING HIM. HOW DO WE PUSH THIS AND AS A CHIEF OF A COUNTY TO MAKE MOVES AND SO IT DOESN'T DIE ON THE VINE. WE HAD CONVERSATIONS AND I PURSUED THIS AND IN THE SPIRIT OF KEEPING THIS MOVING, HOW THE STUDY, THE DOLLAR WISE. WHAT DOLLAR AMOUNT TO PUT FORTH TO SAY WE WANT TO FORMALIZE THE NEED FOR OUR COUNTY BECAUSE I TALKED TO THE OTHER COUNTY JUDGES IN THE NEIGHBORING COUNTIES AND THEY UNDERSTAND THIS IS A NEED.

MY GOAL IS TO ABSOLUTELY NOT MAKE US A MONEY PIT.

AND SO I KNOW I VOTED SOMETHING THAT IS A BIT NOVEL POTENTIALLY BUT I SAID AS WE ARE PLAYING MANY THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS OUTSOURCING INMATES, I SAID TO THEM THERE IS A NEED IN CERTAIN COUNTIES AND AS YOUR ZIPCODE GEO FENCED RESIDENTS STEP INTO OUR FACILITY, YOU WILL GET A BILL.

JUST -- JUST THE WAY IT NEEDS TO HAPPEN.

BUT I THINK THAT STUDY. THAT STUDY IS MOST IMPORTANT ARTICULATE, THE PLAYERS, THE ROAD MAP AND EVERYTHING ELSE.

I KNOW THAT WE YOU WILL HAVE AN AN APPETITE TO PUSH ON IN FRONT

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I WANTED TO POINT TO A POINT IN THE MAP AND MOVING BRICKS.

I GET IT. THE SUD -- THE STUDY, THE STUDY IS THE NEXT STEP AND HOW MUCH CAN WE ALLOCATE TO THE NEXT

EFFORT TO THE STUDY. >> DEBBIE INGALSBE: WHAT I WOULD MAYBE, JUDGE, THAT -- THAT'S AN IDEA MARK THAT YOUR OFFICE CAN -- I FEEL CONFIDENT THAT WE CAN USE ARPA MONEY AND HAVE AN AGENDA ITEM ON AND -- I DON'T KNOW IF IT IS AN UPDATE, $50,000, $57,000, $100,000. I AM NOT SURE WHAT THAT AMOUNT WILL BE AND WE CAN CERTAINLY PUT AN AMOUNT FOR OUR NEXT

COURT MEETING. >> OR PUT OUT AN RFQ.

>> THE DIRECTOR OF HILL COUNTRY CAN MAKE A PRESENTATION AND SCHEDULE INDIVIDUAL MEETINGS OR TWO-COMMISSIONER MEETINGS WITH THEM. I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THEIR GUIDANCE AND WHAT THEY WILL ASKING IS THE OWNERSHIP OPERATION PRIVATE, PUBLIC, NEIGHBORING COUNTIES, IF THEY BROUGHT ONE IN UVALDE. AND MAYBE NOT EXACTLY THE TYPE FAV SILT. IS THERE A WAY TO COMBINE WITH COMAL. I WOULD LOVE TO HEAR THAT IN COMAL. AS THE DIRECTOR OF HILL COUNTRY OR REPRESENTATIVE WHAT WOULD YOU BELIEVE IT THE BEST PATH TO PLACE. IF THE COUNTY HAD THE MONEY TODAY, HOW BIG WILL IT BE? WHO WOULD OPERATE IT? RESIDENTS FROM BLUE BONNET TERRITORY.

WOULD THEY BE ABLE? >> MIGHT BE AN AREA THAT WE

BUILD. >> FROM THE FINANCIAL STANDPOINT OF RPP OR PROFESSIONAL SERVICES, IF WE SOLVE THAT PROBLEM, I THINK WE HAVE -- I AM NOT WORRIED ABOUT THE FUNDING. I CAN EVEN SUBMIT TO SAY WHAT WE HAVE ALL ALLOCATED TO PRECINCT 3.

I WILL MAKE SURE THAT THE FUNDS FROM THERE ON THAT -- FOR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. I DON'T THINK EXPENSE IS GOING TO BE THAT GREAT, AND I THINK -- YOU KNOW, WHO DOES IT.

>> WILL YOU BRING BLUE BONNET INTO THAT?

>> THEY NEED TO WORK TOGETHER. >> DEBBIE INGALSBE: I WONDER IF WE SHOULD -- IT IS UP A TO YOU ALL ARE, WE COULD DO IT INDIVIDUALLY BUT BENEFICIAL TO HAVE THE THREE OF -- ALL OF US HEAR IT AT THE SAME TIME. A WORKSHOP.

NEXT COMMISSIONERS COURT MEETING AND WITH ARPA FUNDING OR USE THAT WITH OTHER MEANS. I AGREE AND WE WILL HAVE THE FINDING TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE STEADIER ASSESSMENT AND WE CAN HAVE ALL OF THAT ON THE AGENDA AT ONE TIME AFTER I HEAR AND GET DIRECTION -- BETTER DIRECTION.

AND THEN WE CAN. >> GET BOTH AGENCIES TOGETHER SINCE WE ARE ON THE CUSP. SOMETHING THAT YOU CAN DO IN THE TIME FLAME. I REALLY APPRECIATE IT.

COMMISSIONERS, I KNOW YOU ARE SUPPORTIVE OF THAT AND THIS IS REAL PEACEFUL WAY OF KEEPING US MOVING IN A WAY THAT IS MOST APPRECIATED. NEXT WEEK -- FOR THE NEXT COURT WE WILL BRING BACK AN AGENDA ITEM TO DISCUSS WHAT IS GOING

ON. >> DO WE MAKE THAT A STANDING

AGENDA ITEM, ARPA. >> JUDGE BECERRA: ON THAT FRONT ON STANDING AGENDA ITEMS. THAT IS GOOD IDEA.

AND WE COULD ALSO -- WHERE THE LAST PAGE.

DELETE 45. BECAUSE THEY KIND OF MARRY INTO

41. >> TAKE THOSE OUT.

>> JUDGE BECERRA: YEAH, ABSOLUTELY.

FOR THE NEXT ONE -- THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER, FOR HELPING WITH THAT. WE CAN GET IDEALLY A COUPLE OF

PRESENTATIONS. >> WE CAN JUST HAVE AUTO A CONVERSATION. OPEN CONVERSATION WITH -- EITHER ANY OF THOSE THREE AGENCIES.

HILL COUNTRY AND THE DIRECTOR AND REPRESENTATIVE OF BLUE BONNET IF DHS WANTS TO JOIN ON THE CONVERSATION BUT THE DIRECTOR OF HILL COUNTRY WILL BE IDEA TO START WITH TO SEE WHAT THEY HAVE DONE IN THE P PAST, WHAT LEGISLATIVE CHANGES

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AND THEN COME TO A DETERMINATION IF THE COUNTY WAS TO PUT IN X AMOUNT OF DOLLARS FOR PROFESSIONAL SERVICES RELATED TO A STUDY OF THIS COULD WORK CAN HILL HAYS CO

COUNTY. >> JUDGE BECERRA: PERFECT.

11 A.M. >> DEBBIE INGALSBE: TWO WEEKS.

WE ARE NOT MEETING NEXT WEEK SO NOVEMBER 2.

HOPEFULLY THAT IS ENOUGH TIME TO GET EVERYBODY TOGETHER THE

INTERESTED PARTIES. >> JUDGE BECERRA: NOVEMBER 11 WORKSHOP MR. KENNEDY IF YOU PUT THIS.

THANK YOU, COMMISSIONERS, FOR WORKING THROUGH THIS CONVERSATION. YOUR SUPPORT IS -- I KNOW IS THERE. SO WE JUST NEED TO GAUGE -- IT IS PART MY JOB AS THE CHAIR TO GAUGE WHAT LEVEL WE HAVE UNIFIED SUPPORT TO KEEP MARCHING AND AND PUSHING ON THIS AND THANK YOU SO MUCH, AS YOU HEARD MR. CAMPISE, THIS STUFF IS CRITICAL ON A DAILY BASIS AND I AM GRATEFUL FOR

[38. Discussion and possible action to amend program guidelines related to the Emergency Rental Assistance Program. BECERRA]

NUMBER 38. >> MS. CARDENAS: 38, DISCUSSION ON POSSIBLE ACTION TO AMEND PROGRAM GUIDELINES RELATED TO THE EMERGENCY EMERGENCY RENTAL ASSISTANCE.

>> DEBBIE INGALSBE: SO MOVED. >> SECOND.

>> JUDGE BECERRA: MOTION AND A SECOND.

PERFECT. I WAS GOING TO SAY.

GIVE THEM A CHANCE TO HAVE ANY COMMENTS.

AND IF NOT, HAVE THEM SPEAK ON THE CONVERSATIONS I HAVE BEEN HAVING. AND NOW WE CAN PUBLICIZE THAT.

>> HELLO, WESLEY MATH USE THIS, PROGRAM MANAGER FOR THE PROGRAM RENTAL ASSISTANCE PROGRAM. THANK YOU FOR SETTING THAT UP.

IT IS REALLY WORKING OUT GREAT. THE IMPORTANCE IS STAFFABILITY TO WOULD, WITH THE EVER CHANGING GUIDELINES OF THE U.S.

TREASURY. THEY ARE COMING OUT WITH BEST PRACTICES. FROM THAT WE CREATED DOCUMENTS THAT REALLY HELP PEOPLE THAT DON'T HAVE TRADITIONAL RENTAL AGREEMENTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

THE TREASURY CAEMENTS SORT OF THOSE FORMS AND GET THEM APPROVED SO HELP PEOPLE QUA QUALIFY.

ANOTHER PART OF THESE THAT WE ARE DOING IS THE ERA EMERGENCY ASSISTANCE CAP. AND A COMMUNITY ASSISTANCE PROGRAM BECAUSE WE WANT TO REACH EVERYTHING WITH A BARRIER AND TO DO THAT. THE COMMUNITY PROGRAMS AND ARE THEY WORK SOMETHING IN AND FOR THE REHOUSING PROGRAM.

WHAT IT IS. IT IS ALMOST LIKE A 90-DAY RAPID REHOUSING PROGRAM. AND WHAT WE HAVE IS THAT THE CLIENT OUT THERE ON THE STREET WILL MEET WITH DIFFERENT CASEWORKERS WITHIN THE COMMUNITY.

THOSE CASEWORKERS ARE TRAINED BY US HOW TO USE OUR SYSTEM.

HOW TO APPLY. WHAT THEY ARE GOING TO DO IS HELP THE APPLICANTS COMPLETE THE INFORMATION COLLECT ALL THEIR DOCUMENTS AND PUT EVERYTHING IN THERE.

WE CREATED. A CERTIFICATION FORM.

WHATEVER AGENCY IS WORKING WITH THAT CLIENT, THEY WILL BE CERTIFYING THAT THE DOCUMENTS THAT THIS PERSON IS PROVIDING SINCE THERE IS A LITTLE MORE LEEWAY IS ACCURATE AND CORRECT.

VALIDATING THE AGENCY THAT THAT PERSON IS CONSIDERED A HAYS COUNTY RESIDENT AND GUIDELINES FOR THAT SO YOU DON'T HAVE PEOPLE COMING FROM OUT OF THE. IT IS GOING TO BE ON THE C CASEWORKER. AND WHAT WE HAVE DONE IS WE CREATED -- IT IS A RES RESULTS-BASED PROGRAM.

SO MEANING, WE ARE LOOKING AT 90 DAYS -- WE ARE WANTING TO HELP THEM OUT WITH, IN THAT THE AGENCIES CERTIFYING THEY WILL HELP THE PERSON APPLY FOR HOUSING, OBTAIN A VOUCHER.

HELP THEM OBTAIN I. D. AND HELP THEM WITH EMPLOYMENT.

THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT WE ARE EXPECTING ANYBODY WITHIN THAT PROGRAM TO DO AND IT WILL BE VERIFIED THROUGH 30-DAY SURVEYS. EVERY 30 DAYS, A RECERTIFICATION SURVEY THAT SAYS -- ASKING A CLIENT, HOTEL, WHAT SUCCESS HAVE YOU MADE. IF YOU HAVEN'T GOT AN I D, IF YOU HAVEN'T PUT OUT JOB APPLICATIONS, IF YOU VICE PRESIDENT MOVED THROUGH HOU HOUSING, WE NEED TO REMOVE THAT CASEWORKER TO THE COMMUNITY AND NOT ABLE TO SUPPORT YOU AND OTHER AGENCIES THAT ARE ACTUALLY MAKING RESULTS FOR PEOPLE. THE WHOLE IDEA IS TO MAKE THEY ENTER NOT HOTEL. GENTLEMAN ON SOCIAL SECURITY LIVING IN A TENT FOR THE LAST YEAR.

HE CAME INTO OUR PROGRAM. WE WERE ABLE TO C THE CASE

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THEY WERE ABLE TO ASSIGN A HOTEL TO HIM.

THEY SENT THEIR CERTIFICATION. THE GENTLEMAN CAME TO US AND WE VERIFIED THAT. WE ENTERED A TICKET FOR HIM.

AND HE WENT TO THE HOTEL THE SAME DAY.

HE SAID, CAN I PICK UP MY TENT? YES.

PICKED UP THE TENT AND CHECKED IN THE HOTEL.

AT THAT POINT HE HAS A PERSONAL MAN IN THE ADDRESS AND HE IS ABLE TO APPLY FOR A DRIVER'S LICENSE OR AN ID, HE IS ABLE TO APPLY FOR STATE BENEFITS, HE ALREADY RECEIVED A HOUSING VOUCHER AND ON A HOUSING WAIT LIST.

THAT WAS ON A WEEKEND THAT WE WERE ABLE TO GET THAT DONE BY WORKING TOGETHER. WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO DO NOW IS WORK WLINGT HOTELS. AND WHAT WE ARE LOOKING AT IS ED A NEW PRESENTATION I AM GOING TO SEND TO THE CITY.

IN THE DAY THEY ENTERED IT. IF THEY DON'T QUALIFY FOR THE PROGRAM, WE ASK FOR THE CITY TO PICK UP THAT COST BECAUSE IT WILL TAKE US TWO WEEKS TO SCREEN.

IF THEY ARE NOT QUALIFIED FOR US.

ASK THE CITY, YOU GUYS HAVE FUNDING CAN YOU COVER THE COST OR COVER THE COST TO KEEP HIM IN THE PROGRAM.

THE AGENCY -- IF THEY ALL SIGN THIS AND THE PROGRAMS KNOW T THAT, IF THEY SIGN SOMEBODY UP AND THEY ARE NOT QUALIFIED FOR THE PROGRAM, THAT AGENCY HAS TO COVER THE COST OF THE STAY FOR THAT PERSON. THIS IS THE PROGRAM TO GET ALL OF THE COMMUNITIES TO WORK TOGETHER., TO MEET PEOPLE EXACTLY WHERE WE ARE AT, AND EMPOWER THE AGENCIES TO SAY THAT WE HAVE THE FUNDS. AND THE BEST PART OF OUR PROGRAM, AS LONG AS WE HAVE THE FUNDING THAT THE PERSON IS QUALIFIED, ONCE THEY OBTAIN THAT DEPARTMENT, ACCORDING TO THE NEW TREASURY GUIDELINES, WE ARE ABLE TO HELP WITH THE SECURITY DEPOSIT, CONNECTION FEES, UTILITY, FIRST MONTH RENT AND GET THEM IN THIS THERE. WORKING TOGETHER AS AN AGENCY, WE CAN ACCOMPLISH A LOT IN A SHORT AMOUNT OF TIME.

SO I APPRECIATE EVERYONE FOR THIS ABILITY TO DO THIS.

>> JUDGE BECERRA: OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT.

I AM VERY IN TUNED WITH THE WORK AND GRATEFUL FOR THE WORK SIM PATHETICALLY. CAN YOU ARTICULATE THE ASK?

WHAT DO YOU NEED FROM US? >> CAN I TALK ABOUT THAT REAL QUICK. BACK IN JUNE, COURT APPROVED RENTAL ASSISTANCE EMERGENCY RENTAL GUIDELINES.

FOLLOWED THE TREASURY GUIDANCE. SINCE THEN AS WESLY MENTIONED TWO OR THREE FAQS. THEY ARE COMING OUT EVERY FOUR TO SIX WEEKS. THE FLEXIBILITY THAT WE WOULD LIKE IS THAT THE COUNTY AUDITOR AND THE ERA PROGRAM MANAGER WILL DEVELOP BEST PRACTICES. SO IF THERE IS ANYTHING THAT NEEDS FURTHER COURT APPROVAL, WE WILL BRING THOSE BACK.

OTHERWISE, THE US TREASURY IS ASKING US TO FOLLOW THESE BEST PRACTICES THAT THEY ARE PUTTING OUT TO ENSURE THAT WE ARE NOT THAT WE ARE DOING EVERYTHING WE CAN TO ASSIST THESE PEOPLE IN OUR COMMUNITY. THE HOTEL, THE REHOMING PRO PROGRAM, THERE ARE ADDITIONAL GUIDANCE THAT WE WANT TO PUT TOGETHER A CHECKLIST FOR THE COMMUNITY CASEWORKERS.

THEY DO HAVE TO FOLLOW -- OR ATTEMPT TO RECEIVE ASSISTANCE FROM TWO OTHER PROGRAMS BEFORE THEY CAN BE CONSIDERED.

SO THERE ARE GUIDANCE -- I HANDED YOU THE U.S. TREASURY GUIDANCE, THE MOST RECENT GUIDANCE.

WESLEY HAS THE CHECKLIST THAT HE AND HIS TEAM HAS CREATED AND E-MAIL THAT OUT TO THE COURT MEMBERS.

IT WILL BE PUT ONLINE AND AVAILABLE ONLINE AND SHARED WITH YOUR -- WITH YOUR ASSISTANCE WITHIN YOUR OFFICE SO THAT ANYONE IN YOUR COMMUNITY HAVE QUESTIONS.

THEY HAVE THAT PLACE TO REACH OUT TO AS WELL.

SO WE ARE TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT THE COURT IS TRYING TO BE AWARE OF THE PROGRAMS AND THE CHANGES THAT THE U.S. TREASURY IS MAKING. THE -- WESLEY IS CURRENTLY WORKING WITH THE HOTELS. WHAT OUR OFFICE HAS ASKED THAT WE DO HOTEL ASSISTANCE ON A MONTHLY BASIS.

SO THE REHOMING PROGRAM IS A 90-DAY PROGRAM.

WE ARE ASKING THE HOTELS TO FILL US AT THE END OF A 30-DAY PERIOD SO WE ARE NOT PREPAYING FOR HOTEL STAYS FOR CLIENTS.

SO ONCE THERE WERE PUT IN THE PROGRAM, THIS CAME UP IN THE FIRST PART OF OCTOBER. IT IS ELIGIBLE EXPENSE FOR

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>> JUDGE BECERRA: COMMISSIONER SHELL.

>> LON SHELL: TAKE A SHOT AT A MOTION, AUTHORIZE THE COUNTY AUDITOR'S OFFICE TO AUTHORIZE BEST PRACTICES FOR THE EMERGENCY ASSISTANCE PROGRAM PURSUANT TO THE UNITED STATES TREASURY GUIDELINES AS THEY ARE UPDATED AND PUBLISHED.

>> YES. >> JUDGE BECERRA: SECOND.

ANY OTHER COMMENTS? >> DEBBIE INGALSBE: I DO.

WESLEY I APPRECIATE YOU SAYING THAT THE PROGRAM IS ALSO PERFORMANCE-BASED BECAUSE WE CAN PUT -- I AM ALL FOR HELPING THESE INDIVIDUALS AND FAMILIES. I KNOW IT HAS BEEN EXTREMELY TOUGH THESE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS, BUT I THINK WE ALSO NEED TO HELP THEM TO GET OUT OF PROGRAMS. HELP THEM GET JOBS AND SUSTAIN THEIR FAMILIES.

AND SO, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T WANT TO ENABLE, WE WANT TO PROVIDE THE ASSISTANCE THEY NEED TO GET OUT OF THESE SITUATIONS.

SO I APPRECIATE THAT WE ARE DOING IS THAT.

WE CAN PUT AS MUCH MONEY INTO A PROGRAM AND IF THEY ARE NOT RECEIVING THE REAL HELP THAT THEY NEED, THEN THEY JUST CONTINUE IN A PROGRAM AND WE RUN OUT OF MONEY.

AND SO ANYWAY, I APPRECIATE ALL THE WORK THAT YOU ALL HAVE DONE, THE AUDITOR'S OFFICE, YOUR OFFICE, AND A LOT OF HARD WORK PUT INTO THIS. SO THANK YOU.

>> JUDGE BECERRA: YES, COMMISSIONER?

>> WALT SMITH: I AM FULLY SUPPORTIVE OF THE CHANGE.

I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS. WHENEVER YOU SAY THE AGENCIES THEIR WORKING WITH IF THEY GO THROUGH THE PREQUALIFICATION LIST, THEY QUALIFY SOMEBODY. IF THEY -- EITHER MISREPRESENT THAT OR MAKE AN ACCIDENT, THEN THEY ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT.

WHICH JUST TO CLARIFY FOR TH THOSE, WHAT ARE -- WHO ARE THE AGENCIES THAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT THAT ARE OFFERING THAT

ASSISTANCE? >> THE AGENCIES RIGHT NOW THAT ARE OUT THERE IS AGENCIES SUCH AS HOME CENTER, SUCH AS TOGETHER FOR A CAUSE. WHEN THEY ARE PLACING SOMEONE -- THEY ARE WORKING IN A REHOUSING SITUATION WITH, IT'S THE COUNTY STEPPING IN TO SAY LET'S HELP YOU OUT.

SO WE GIVE THEM A GUIDED CH CHECKLIST AND ASKING THEM TO REALLY SCREEN THEIR CLIENTS, YOU KNOW.

I KNOW I HELP HOME CENTER. PLACED PEOPLE OUT OF THE PROGRAM THAT WERE PLACED IN THE HOTEL BECAUSE THEY SAY THEY ARE NOT GOING TO MAKE IT. I CAN'T REHOUSE THEM.

W WILL NOT SPEND THE FUNDING ON THAT.

THAT IS WHAT I AM ASKING THE TEEING DO.

EVEN THOUGH A COUNTY'S MONEY, DO A REAL WORLD RISK ASSESSMENT AND THE ONLY WAY TO DO THAT IS PUT SOME OF THE OWNERSHIP ON THEM. WHEN THAT HAPPENS THEY DO A RISK ASSESSMENT AND THEY GO, NO, NOT WORTH THE COST TO GET THIS PERSON IN HERE. LET'S DO SOMETHING THAT WE

REHOUSE. >> JUDGE BECERRA: WESLEY, THAT IS GREAT NEWS. PREVIOUS HOUSING ABLE TO SIT THERE AND SAY WHAT DAY IS THAT PERSON ACTUALLY LEAVING AND PAY FOR THAT DATE. THE ONLY WAY WE CAN GET THAT ABILITY IS BY GETTING IN GOOD GROUNDS -- GRACES WITH THE HOTELS. WHAT WE CAN DO WITH THAT AGAIN, IS MAKING SURE THAT THE PEOPLE ARE THERE UNTIL IT IS TIME FOR THEM TO LEAVE. WHEN IT IS TIME FOR THEM TO LEAVE, THAT IS -- THE PROGRAM ACTUALLY ALLOWS US TO EXTEND IT FURTHER. WE ARE NOT ADVERTISING THAT, BUT THERE IS THAT ABILITY. IF A PERSON HAS A GAP, WE CAN COVER THAT GAP. THE PROBLEM WE ARE HAVING RIGHT NOW IS GETTING IN GOOD GRACES WITH THE HOTELS, BECAUSE I HAVE 55 PEOPLE IN THE PROGRAM THAT ARE IN HOTELS, AND THE HOTELS HAVEN'T RECEIVED PAYMENT. IF THERE WAS ANY WAY -- COVID FUNDING OR ANYTHING THAT WE CAN ABLE TO PUT A SECURITY DEPOSIT AND SAY HERE IS THE SECURITY DEPOSIT.

YOU WILL GET PAID ONE WAY OR ANOTHER.

BECAUSE AS PEOPLE GET APPROVED, THEY -- IT GIVES US A CHANCE TO

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I AM TRYING TO GET IN A PARTNERSHIP WITH THE CITY SAYING LET'S GET AN AGREEMENT. IF WE DON'T COVER THEM AND YOU ARE GOING TO COVER THEM. OR THE AGENCIES ARE SAYING, I AM GOING TO COVER THEM. SO AT LEAST WE CAN GO INTO THE

HOTEL WITH A PROMISSORY NOTE. >> WALT SMITH: DO YOU HAVE A LEVEL OF CONFIDENCE WITH THE NEGOTIATIONS WITH THE CITY THAT THEY ARE GOING TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT?

>> NOT YET. SO I KNOW THEY ARE LOOKING AT DOING A PROGRAM. THEY ARE LOOKING FOR, LIKE, A CASEWORKER. AND THAT WOULD BE -- AND THAT IS SOMETHING WE ARE ALSO -- BECAUSE THEY HAVE THE FUNDING.

IF THEY WANTED TO HIRE A CASE MANAGER FOR THAT TYPE OF THAT PROGRAM, I WILL WORK HAND IN HAND WITH THEM AND THAT WAY LIKE A SMOOTH TRANSITION. WE BOTH SCREEN THROUGH THE SAME PROCESS. IF THEY DON'T QUALIFY FOR US WE HAND THE PACKAGE RIGHT OVER TO THEM AND IT GOES THROUGH OUR PAYMENT PROCESS. THEY DON'T REALLY -- TECHNICALLY THEY DON'T NEED A BODY.

THEY JUST NEED AN ACCOUNTING OFFICE BECAUSE WE DO THE SCREENING. THE AGENCY DOES A SCREENING AND WE REVIEW OUR PACKAGE. IF IT DOESN'T MEET ALL OUR DATA, EVERYTHING IS RIGHT THERE.

WE CAN HAND IT RIGHT OVER TO THE CITY AND SAY HERE IS THE PACKAGE. HERE IS THE SITUATION.

THEN IF THEY APPROVE IT, THEY WILL REALLY NEED SOMEONE TO CUT THE CHECK TO THE HOTEL INGSZ INGALSBE SO --

>> I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT OUR OFFICE WILL ALSO BE WORKING WITH WESLEY TO SEE IF WE CAN SET UP ACCOUNTS WITH THESE HOTELS. WE ACTUALLY HAVE ACCOUNTS WITH AT LEAST ONE OR MAYBE TWO HOTELS FOR JURY SEQUESTERING.

SO THAT'S WHAT WE ARE GOING TO ASSIST WESLEY WITH IS SETTING UP ACCOUNTS. WE ALSO HAVE THE ABILITY TO PUT -- THE COUNTYWIDE CREDIT CARD DOWN AS AN INITIAL HOLD FOR THE ROOM, BUT NOT BE ASKED -- ASK THEM TO THE TO BILL UNTIL THE END OF THE MONTH AND CUT THE CHECKS MONTHLY ON THE ACTUAL TIME THOSE CLIENTS ARE STAYING THE HOTEL.

WHAT WE DIDN'T WANT TO DO AND WHAT WE HAD TALKED ABOUT WITH WESLEY ABOUT IS MAKING PAYMENT FOR 30, 60 OR 90 DAYS IN ADVANCE AND THOSE CLIENTS NOT STAY IN THE PROGRAM AND TRYING TO GET OUR FUNDS BACK FROM THOSE HOTELS.

SO THAT IS WHAT WE ARE WORKING WITH WESLEY NOW.

WE WANTED A LIST OF THE HOTELS THAT HE HAS BEEN IN COMMUNICATION WITH SO WE CAN ACTUALLY GO WITH -- REACH OUT TO THOSE HOTELS AND SET UP THOSE CREDIT.

>> WALT SMITH: THANK YOU FOR YOUR ANSWER.

>> JUDGE BECERRA: IF NOTHING ELSE, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

>> DEBBIE INGALSBE: YES. >> LON SHELL: YES.

>> MARK JONES: YES. >> WALT SMITH: YES.

>> JUDGE BECERRA: YES. THANK YOU, WESLEY FOR BEING SO PATIENT AND COMMITTED TO YOUR COMMUNITY, OUR COMMUNITY.

>> THANK YOU. >> JUDGE BECERRA: I WAS ASKED

[42. Discussion related to the Hays County inmate population, to include current population counts and costs. BECERRA]

>> 42, DISCUSSION RELATED TO THE HAYS COUNTY INMATE POPULATION TO INCLUDE CURRENT POPULATION COUNTS AND COSTS.

>> JUDGE BECERRA: THE 410 INMATES JAIL CAPACITY.

JAIL STANDARDS RECOMMEND WE HOLD 10% OF THAT OPEN WHICH LOWERS OUR ACTUAL CAPACITY TO 368.

THE JAIL'S DAILY AVERAGE WAS 615 AND 622 ON OCTOBER 15.

ESTIMATED COST FOR OUTSOURCING INMATES THIS WEEK WITH A $1 $17,224. THE AVERAGE NUMBER OF OUTSOURCED MALES IS 159 AND FEMALES ARE 12.

THIS WEEK'S INMATES WERE HOUSED IN THE FOLLOWING K'S ATASCOTIA, FT. BEND, COMAL, FT. BEND AND BUDA.

THE HAYS COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE, 61.

KYLE POLICE DEPARTMENT, 20. SAN MARCOS IMPLEMENT, 28.

TEXAS STATE UNIVERSITY, 0. IF I HAVE THIS CORRECT, ALL WE

[EXECUTIVE SESSIONS]

>> NUMBER 40, EXECUTIVE SESSION PURSUANT TO SECTIONS 551.071 AND 55.072 OF THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE.

CONSULTATION WITH COUNSEL AND DELIBERATION REGARDING THE PURCHASE, EXCHANGE, LEASE AND OR VALUE OF REAL PROPERTY LOCATED ON OR NEAR STAGECOACH TRAIL IN SAN MARCOS, TEXAS, AND WITHIN PRECINCT 3. POSSIBLE DISCUSSION AND OR ACTION MAY FOLLOW IN OPEN CO COURT.

>> JUDGE BECERRA: DO WE NEED A MOTION.

>> SO MOVED. >> SECOND.

>> JUDGE BECERRA: WE WILL GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION.

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THANK

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