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TO CALL THIS MEET TO ORDER. THIS MORNING'S INVOCATION WILL BE LED BY -- COMMISSIONERS, ANY TAKERS COMMISSIONER JONES.
>> MARK JONES: WE THANK YOU FOR THE BLESSINGS YOU GIVE US EACH AND EVERY DAY. LORD, I ASK THAT YOU BE WITH OUR COMMISSIONERS COURT TODAY. YOU GIVE US WISDOM AND DISCERNMENT TO MAKE GOOD AND WISE DECISIONS TODAY AND ASK THAT YOU BLESS HAYS COUNTY AND HELP US TO BE EVERYTHING THAT WE WANT TO BE AND WE PRAY FOR RAIN SOON.
IN CHRIST, AMEN. >> I POLLEN ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.
AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS.
ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. HONOR THE TEXAS FLAG.
I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THEE, TEXAS, ONE STATE, UNDER GOD,
ONE INDIVISIBLE. >> DR. CARDENAS, THROUGH
PLEASE CALL THE ROLE. >> DEBBIE INGALSBE: HERE.
>> MARK JONES: HERE. >> LON SHELL: HERE.
>> WALT SMITH: HERE. >> JUDGE BECERRA: HERE.
GETTING DOWN TO THE WIRE. HOW IS IT GOING? ALL RIGHT. THOSE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT
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SUBMITTED A PUBLIC PARTICIPATION WITNESS FORM HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK. UNFORTUNATELY NO ACTION CAN BE MADE BY THE COURT DURING PUBLIC COMMENT AS WE ARE EXPECTED NOT TO RESPOND. ANY QUESTIONS WILL BE TAKEN AS RHETORICAL. ALL COMMENTS ARE OPINIONS OF SPEAKER AND NOT NECESSARILY CONSTRUED AS TRUTH.PLEASE KEEP YOUR COMMENTS AND LANGUAGE CIVIL AND RESPECTFUL OR YOU WILL FORFEIT THE REMAINDER OF YOUR TIME.
IN A SPIRIT OF RESPECT, PLEASE SILENCE YOUR CELL PHONES.
FIRST ASSIGNED TO SPEAK UNDER PUBLIC COMMENTS IS JAMES REESE.
IF YOU PLEASE APPROACH THE PODIUM, WE WILL START A TH THREE-MINUTE TIMER ON YOU. JAMES REESE.
IS THERE A JAMES REESE? YES, THANK YOU.
FOLLOWED BY -- MR. REESE, YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.
>> GOOD MORNING, JUDGE. >> JUDGE BECERRA: GOOD
I HAVE A QUESTION PRESENTED. NOTHING TO DO WITH THE AGENDA BUT IT IS CONSEQUENTIAL TO THE DUTIES OF WHICH THE CLERK OF THIS COURT SERVING IN COURT MINISTERIALLY.
THE CLERK OF THIS COUNTY MISS CARDENAS SERVES AS CLERK OF THE COURT AND SERVES THE COURTS IN THAT CAPACITY AND ALSO IS A REGISTRAR FOR ALL PUBLIC DOCUMENTS THAT ARE PRESENTED TO HER UPON WHICH ALL OF THOSE DOCUMENTS ARE RECEIVED AS FILED BY MEANS OF A STAFF PROVIDED. BUT UPON ENTERING HER OFFICE LAST WEEK AND ASKING FOR HER RECEIPT ACKNOWLEDGING A CERTAIN LETTER THINK THAT DELIVERED TO YOU AND MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSIONERS COURT LAST WEEK DATED SEPTEMBER 7, MISS CARDENAS AND HER EMPLOYEES OVER A PROTRACTED SERIES OF QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS REFUSED TO PROVIDE ANY KIND OF SEAL, STAMP OR ACKNOWLEDGMENT OF THAT LETTER AS WAS RECEIVED BY THE COURT, CONSEQUENTIALLY BY E-MAIL WITHOUT BEARING ANY KIND OF STAMP DESIGNATING AS OFFICIALLY RECEIVED.
THE SAME STAMP WERE I GO TO THE CITY OF SAN MARCOS.
HAVE A STAMP, CITY OF SAN MARCOS, BLAH-BLAH-BLAH, EVERY LOCAL GOVERNMENT THAT RECEIVES A DOCUMENT WHETHER IT BE PRESENTED BY MEANS OF PRESENTED ON THE AGENDA OR MERELY BY A CITIZENS WHO ATTENDS AND SUBMITS A QUESTION PRESENTED AS I AM RIGHT NOW, NAMELY THAT WITH THE BACKGROUND AT HAND.
WHY AM I NOT ALLOWED A STAMP AS FAR AS RECEIVED BY YOUR CLERK OF COMMISSIONERS COURT. I AM TOLD TO RECEIVE THAT STAMP I MUST FIRST GET ON THE AGENDA TO PRESENT EVIDENCE OF WHICH MISS CARDENAS WILL THEREUPON STAMP IT AS FILED AND RECEIVED.
SO AS IT IS RIGHT NOW, I AM TO AVOID IS THIS QUESTION IN THE
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FUTURE FOR PURPOSES OF SELF-PROVING DOCUMENTS AS THE SEAL HAVING BEEN RECEIVED AND FIGURE THAT OUT IN THE FUTURE AND A WAY TO PRESENT AGAIN TO KARP MISS CARDENAS AND SIMPLY GET ON WITH THE MATTER OF HAND RATHER THAN WRANGLING IF SHE ISGOING TO OFFICIALLY RECEIVE IT. >> JUDGE BECERRA: ANYTHING ELSE FOR YOU, SIR? IF YOU WERE WAITING FOR A RESPONSE. WE ARE NOT IN A SETTING TO GIVE
YOU ONE. >> THAT IS MY RESPONSE.
THANK YOU, JUDGE. >> JUDGE BECERRA: I AM TAKING NOTE OF WHAT YOU SAID. THANK YOU.
NEXT SPEAKER IS EDGAR ROAR RALE LESS IF YOU PLEASE APPROACH THE
PODIUM. >> GOOD MORNING, EVERYONE.
I HAVE A LITTLE FAMILY HISTORY. MY GRANDPARENTS WHO OWN PROPERTY SINCE THE YEAR 1944. MY GRANDPARENTS WERE MARRIED MAY 20, 1888 IN MEXICO. THEIR CHILDREN BORN ON SEPTEMBER 30, 1870 IN MEX MECHANICS.
MARRIED 23RD OF DECEMBER. NUNES MAY 1988 ALSO BORN IN MEXICO. ACCORDING TO BORDER CROSSING, IMGREATSED TO TEXAS IN THE YEAR 1911 ALONG WITH HER EIGHT SONS LIKE I MENTIONED.
IN THE 1920 CENSUS. SHE AND FIVE OF HER SONS IN GUADELUPE COUNTY. MOVED TO SAN MARCOS, HAYS COUNTY WITH THE FATHER ALONG WITH HIS SONS.
ALL THE SONS GOT MARRY AND BROUGHT PROPERTY IN SAN MARCOS AND RAISED THEIR FAMILIES UNTIL THE DEATH AND MY GRANDFATHER BOUGHT HIS PROPERTY IN SAN MARCOS IN 1944.
THANK YOU. >> JUDGE BECERRA: THANK YOU
VERY MUCH. >> YOU ARE WELCOME.
>> JUDGE BECERRA: SPEAKER IS MR. RODRIGO AMAYA.
>> THANK YOU, JUDGE, COURT. LAST TIME I WAS HERE, I WAS TRYING TO WARN BUT SIGNING THAT CONTRACT WITH THE COX CONSTRUCTION WHICH IS ONE OF THE FOLKS THAT ARE WORKING ON THE VICTORY GARDENS AREA. YOU KNOW, I REMEMBER COMMISSIONER SHELL TALKING ABOUT HOW HE LIKES TO FOLLOW THE LAW, AND THAT'S WHY HE REACHED OUT TO THE CITY AND WANTED TO MAKE SURE THEY WERE CREDIBLE FOLKS TO DO BUSINESS WITH. I RAN ACROSS THIS ARTICLE FROM THE AUGUST 18, 2001 DAILY RECORD, A LETTER TO THE EDITOR.
PROJECT EXCEEDED BY 380 DAYS. WRITER WANTED TO KNOW WHAT THE CITY TO COMPEL THE CONTRACTOR COMPLETE THE PROJECT.
IN SPANISH, IT WAS WRITTEN -- I DON'T KNOW WHERE YOU HAVE THAT AS HAVING A FAVORABLE POSITIVE -- WHAT DO YOU CALL IT, REPUTATION. BUT THOSE FOLKS, EVERYWHERE THEY GO, THEY MAKE A MESS. AND FOR SOME REASON, THIS IS GROUND ZERO FOR ANYTHING THAT IS NO GOOD AND NOT IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THIS COMMUNITY. AND, YOU KNOW, LIKE I TOLD Y'ALL LAST TIME, COUNTY HAD SEVERAL OFFICIALS BEING ARRESTED FOR THE FBI FOR BID RIGGING.
TOLD OF $1.3 MILLION OF LOSSES TO THE TAXPAYERS OVER THERE.
THE ATTORNEY COST US THAT IN THE LOST PINES WATER DEAL WHEN THAT WENT DOWN AND NO CONSEQUENCES.
I ASKED THE FORMER EMPLOYEE OF THE COUNTY THAT WORKED WITH THE COUNTY FOR TEN YEARS. HE SAID HE DOESN'T KNOW WHY HE IS STILL HERE. WHERE IS THE INVESTIGATION? WHERE IS THE CONSEQUENCES FOR SOMEONE CASTING THE TAXPAYERS OVER $1 MILLION FOR LOSSES. GO PAST IT LIKE IT IS NOTHING.
THESE TAXPAYERS WORK HARD FOR THAT MONEY AND THEY WANT ANSWERS AND THEY WANT SOMEONE TO PROTECT THEIR HARD-EARNED TAX DOLLARS. WHY IS THE ATTORNEY WHO REPEATEDLY. FAILED US STILL AN EMPLOYEE.
YOU FAULK OF FOLLOWING THE LAW. ALLEGATION THAT FOLKS WERE LOOKING AT THAT RANCH OUT THERE WHERE THE DIRECTOR OF BRIDGES AND STUFF WAS USING COUNTY MATERIALS TO PAICH HIS FRIENDS' PERSONAL DRIVEWAYS. WHERE INVESTIGATION OF THAT.
DON'T JUST TELL ME THAT YOU LIKE TO FOLLOW THE LAW.
I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT, COMMISSIONER SHELL.
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>> JUDGE BECERRA: THANK YOU. AND THE FINAL SPEAKER ON THE
PUBLIC PORTION IS MR. DAN LYON. >> GOOD MORNING, JUDGE BECERRA AND COMMISSIONERS. DAN SAID YOU COULD SAVE MONEY IN EXPENDITURES TO SAVE ON THE PROJECTS, QUOTES, END QUOTE.
LET ME CORRECT HIM. WE HAVE NOT SPENT SAVED ANYTHING, YOU SPENT LESS. YOU DON'T HAVE A 275 MILLION TO SPEND ON THE PROJECT, QUOTE, UNQUOTE.
GULF COAST PAPER COMPANY, 80 DISBURSEMENTS FOR $20,072.62.
FOR CLEANING SUPPLIES FOR THE JAIL.
THIS IS A RECURRING COST WHICH I ESTIMATE HAPPENS EVERY THREE TO FOUR WEEKS. IT IS NO WONDER THAT IT IS CHEAPER TO OUTSOURCE INMATES TO OTHER COUNTIES.
YESTERDAY I ATTENDED AN APPRAISAL REVIEW BOARD, QUOTE, HEARING, UNQUOTE. I ALLOWED HER TO PRESENT.
SHE MADE TWO MISTAKES ON THE PRESENTATION.
FIRST SHE SAID I LIVE ON A DRIVE AND I LIVED ON A LANE IN THE SAME -- IN OTHER WORDS, SHE GAVE THE WRONG ADDRESS OF MY HOME. AT THAT POINT IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN GAME OVER BECAUSE SHE HAD THE WRONG ADDRESS.
SECONDLY, SHE SAID SHE DID NOT KNOW WHAT YEAR MY HOUSE WAS BUILT, WHICH IS NOT TRUE. I HAD GIVEN THEM THE YEAR IT WAS BUILT IN WRITING WHICH WAS 1971.
SHE CLAIMED THAT ALL THE COMPARABLE HOUSES WERE BUILT BEFORE 1980, YET SHE DID NOT KNOW THE DATE OF A SIMPLE COMP.
HOW DOES THAT WORK? I ASK THE DISTRICT APPRAISER IF SHE KNEW HOPE SPENT ON THE HOUSE ON THE COMPARABLE SALES LIST. SHE CLAIMED HER OFFICE MON MONITORED THE BUILDING PERMITS AND ESTIMATED THE AMOUNT OF MONEY SPENT. I THEN SAID S THEN YOUR ANSWER IS SORT OF. SHE LAUGHED AND SAID, YES.
EVEN THOUGH AT MY LAST SO-CALLED HEARING, ANOTHER DISTRICT APPRAISER SAID SHE DID NOT KNOW HOW MUCH WAS SPENT ON THE COMPARABLE SALES HOUSES. THE BOTTOM LINE IS THAT ITS A R KNOWS NOTHING ABOUT THE TEXAS PROPERTY TAX CODE AND THEY ARE INCOMPETENT IN MY OPINION. I HAD ANOTHER PROPERTY OUT AT NORTHWEST HILLS. THEY COMPARED IT TO A PROPERTY AT SADDLE RIDGE. THEY HAVE HOUSES THERE FOR SALE FOR $1.75 MILLION. RESTRICTIONS THEY HAVE PAVED ROADS. WE DON'T HAVE PAVED ROADS IN NORTHWEST HILLS. SIX MILES AWAY FROM WHERE MY PROPERTY IS AND ALMOST 20 MILES BY DRIVING.
AND THEY SAY THAT IS IN THE SAME NEIGHBORHOOD AS MY PROPERTY. THIS IS THE KIND OF GARBAGE THAT WE HAVE TO PUT UP WITH THE ARB.
AND FRANKLY, SOMETHING NEEDS TO BE DONE BY THEM.
[BEEPING] >> I WILL SAVE THAT FOR LATER.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> JUDGE BECERRA: THANK YOU, SIR. THAT CONCLUDES OUR PORTION OF
THE PUBLIC COMMENTS. >> I HAVE ONE THAT WAS SENT IN.
>> JUDGE BECERRA: WONDERFUL, THANK YOU.
>> MS. CARDENAS: EXCUSE ME FOR INTERRUPTING YOU.
DIANE MCCABE FROM SAN MARCOS. I AM WRITING TO URGE YOU AS COUNTY COMMISSIONERS TO RECONSIDER HOW TO MAKE THE REDISTRICTING PROCESS FAIR AND OPEN AS YOU DRAW MAPS TO REFLECT THE 2020 CENSUS DATA NOTING THE CHANGES IN DEMOGRAPHICS AND POPULATION THAT OCCURRED OVER THE PAST TEN YEARS IN HAYS COUNTY. PLEASE HOLD AND PUBLICIZE MAERTION IN GEOGRAPHICAL AREA TO PROVIDE OPPORTUNITY HEAR THE VOICES OF ITS VARIOUS DIVERSE COMMUNITIES THAT MAKE UP HAYS COUNTY. BY LISTENING TO THESE VOICES, PLEASE DRAW MAPS THAT ENSURE THAT COMMUNITIES OF INTEREST REMAIN INTACT. AS AN ALUMNI AND RETIRED FACULTY MEMBER OF TEXAS STATE, I WOULD ESPECIALLY HOPE THAT YOU KEEP THE UNIVERSITY WHOLE AND NOT DIVIDED WHEN YOU DRAW THE MAPS. THE TEXAS DATA IS A CLEAR COMMUNITY OF INTEREST THAT SHOULD REMAIN INTACT.
THANK YOU. >> JUDGE BECERRA: IS THAT THE
ONLY ONE? >> MS. CARDENAS: YES.
>> JUDGE BECERRA: PLEASE OPEN AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 1.
>> DID YOU FILL OUT FORM FOR PUBLIC COMMENT? OKAY. PLEASE.
GO RIGHT AHEAD. SORRY ABOUT THAT.
>> COMMISSIONERS AND KARP JUDGE.
MY NAME IS FRANK AREDOND O, 904 STAGECOACH TRAIL.
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I'M HERE FOR A COUPLE OF REASONS.ALL MY ADULT LIFE, I HAVE SPOKEN FOR PEOPLE WHO CAN'T SPEAK FOR THEMSELVES. AND HERE I'M HERE TODAY TO THANK YOU FOR THE PROCLAMATION YOU ARE GOING TO GIVE US LATER ON. I'M HERE REPRESENTING THE A RRENDONDO FAMILY WHO HAVE BEEN HERE WITH FIVE GENERATIONS OF FAMILY MEMBERS LIVING IN HAYS COUNTY.
WE CONTRIBUTED -- MY GRANDFATHER STARTED AS A SHARECROPPER HERE IN SAN MARCOS.
HE BUILT IT UP INTO A GROCERY STORE, A FOOD STAND, A GROCERY STORE, A RESTAURANT. A SINCLAIR SERVICE STATION AND HE TOOK PEOPLE TO THE COTTON FIELDS.
HE WAS A MAN WHO DIDN'T HAVE AN EDUCATION.
HE HAD A LOT OF COMMON SENSE. AND HE HAD MADE SOMETHING OF HIMSELF AND PASSED SOMETHING ON TO HIS GENERATIONS.
TODAY IS A PRIDE FOR HISPANICS, BUT BEFORE I GET INTO THAT, I WANT TO RELAY TO YOU LAST NIGHT AT SAN MASCO SCHOOL BOARD MEETING, I WAS BURSTING WITH PRIDE.
IT WAS ELOQUENT SPEAKERS DE DEFENDING CENTRO.
THE TOPIC WAS SELLING SCHOOL PROPERTY, ONE OF WHICH CENTRO SITS. AND FOR ME, HAVING SO MANY PEOPLE, SO MANY LOCAL PEOPLE SPEAKING UP FOR CENTRO AND DEFENDING IT JUST BURST ME WITH PRIDE TODAY I AM BURSTING WITH PRIDE BECAUSE FOR YEARS I HAVE SPOKEN UP THAT HISTORIC -- HISPANIC HERITAGE HAS TO BE RECOGNIZED.
WE HAVE BEEN HERE OVER 1,000 YEARS IN HAYS COUNTY.
A LOT OF THE DEVELOPMENTS HAVE TAKEN PLACE OR HAVE BEEN ON THE BACKS OF HISPANICS WHATEVER HAYS COUNTY.
THE PROCLAMATION TODAY RECOGNIZES THE FAMILY, THE HISPANIC FAMILIES THAT HAVE BEEN HERE A LONG TIME AND CONTRIBUTE TO THE GROWTH OF HAYS COUNTY AND SAN MARCOS.
I APPLAUD YOU FOR HAVING THIS PROCLAMATION AND RECOGNIZING THE WOULD THAT IS CORRECT WE HAVE DONE.
I INCLUDE MYSELF, ALL THE HISPANICS? THIS COURTROOM AND IN THIS COUNTY THAT IT IS RECOGNITION WELL DESERVED, WAY PAST ITS TIME AND I THANK YOU.
[4. Adopt a proclamation recognizing Hispanic Heritage Month and the contributions made by the Indigenous & Tejano First Families.]
>> JUDGE BECERRA: NAUR. OPEN AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 4.
>> MS. CARDENAS: ADOPT A PROCLAMATION RECOGNIZING HISPANIC HERITAGE MONTH AND THE CONTRIBUTIONS MADE BY THE INDIGENOUS AND TEJANO FIRST FAMILIES.
>> JUDGE BECERRA: FOLLOWED BY GINA ROGERS.
>> OKAY. HELLO, MY NAME IS LINDA GUERRERO GONZALEZ. I AM THE DAUGHTER OF SAMUEL AND CELIA GUERRO. I -- I AM THE GREAT GRANDDAUGHTER -- SORRY, THE GRANDDAUGHTER, GREAT GR GRANDPARENTS. AND THEY IMMIGRATED TO CENTRAL TEXAS FROM MEXICO IN 1970S. ALL 13 CHILDREN WERE BORN AND RAISED IN SAN MARCOS IN THE SAN ANTONIO AREA.
WE LOVINGLY CALL HER MAMA CRUZ.
SHE ALSO HAD ADOPTED SOME CHILDREN.
1887, CRUZ HELPED ORGANIZE THE FIRST MEXICAN-AMERICAN PRESBYTERIAN CHURCH IN SAN MARCOS, WHICH IS NOW MEMORIAL PRESBYTERIAN CHURCH. WHEN MEMORIAL PRESBYTERIAN CHURCH WAS LOCATED ON JACKMAN STREET, THE CHURCH BUILDING WAS PT ON A TRAILER AND PULLED BY DONKEYS TO THE PRESENT LOCATION ON GUADELUPE AND LEE STREETS IN SAN MARCOS.
NOVEMBER 3, 2021, MEMORIAL PRESBYTERIAN CHURCH WILL CELEBRATE 134 YEARS OF SERVICE TO THE SAN MARCOS COMMUNITIES.
100 DESCENDENTS HAVE SERVED IN THE U.S. MILITARY INCLUDING MY
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FATHER AND THREE HE BROTHERS. SAMUEL, PAUL, ALEX AND ROBERT.PURCHASED PROPERTY OF WHAT IS NOW ELLIS STREET.
THE STREET NEXT TO TEXAS R ROADHOUSE.
MY GRANDPARENT AND FOUR OF HIS FIVE SONS LIVED ON ELLIS ST STREET. I GREW UP WITH COUSINS AND IT WAS HI ALREADY A. LET ME TELL YOU.
THE STREET IS KNOWN AS THE GUERRERO ADDITION.
ALEX CAFE AND PAUL'S RESTAURANT.
ALEX GUERRERO OPENED THE FIRST MEXICAN-AMERICAN CAFE SERVING DELICIOUS MEXICAN FOOD. ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE WAS PAUL'S RESTAURANT, AND SPECIALIZING IN AMERICAN FOOD AND ALSO COOKING PAUL'S FAMOUS CHICKEN FRIED STEAK.
HE ALSO KATE ERRED TO THE SUTHWEST TEXAS STATE UNIVERSITY AND THE SAN MARCOS RATTLER FOOTBALL TEAMS. THEY WERE THERE EVERY FRIDAY AND SATURDAY.
PURCHASED 22 PLOTS AT THE SAN MARCOS CITY CEMETERY.
WE HAVE THE LARGEST PLOT AT THE CITY CEMETERY FOR HIS FIVE SONS AND WIVES AND ALL OF HIS DESCENDENTS -- EXCUSE ME -- AND SPOUSES. IN 2016, THE MEMORIAL PRESBYTERIAN CHURCH BURNED. OUR CONGREGATION NEVER STOPPED WORSHIPPING WITH HELP FROM EL CENTRO AND THE SOUTH SIDE COMMUNITY CENTER AND -- AND ALSO MY MOTHER -- [BEEPING] -- OH, SHOOT. MY MOTHER, SHE HAS SIX BROTHERS THAT ALL WERE IN THE MILITARY. THERE WAS CATALIN THOOSHTION WE LOVINGLY CALLED MY UNCLE K.
WHEN HE LANDED IN NORMANDY GOT SHOT IN THE ARM -- IN THE WRIST ACTUALLY AND HE DID SURVIVE AND HE WAS A LOVING -- VERY, VERY LOVING PERSON. THANK YOU.
>> JUDGE BECERRA: THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR STORY AND YOUR FAMILY'S CONTRIBUTION TO OUR COMMUNITY.
I WILL SAY THIS NOW SINCE THE TIMER WENT OFF AND READY TO GET IT OFF IMMEDIATELY. IT IS CUSTOMARY FOR THIS COURT TO ALLOW THIS COURT TO CONCLUDE THEIR THOUGHTS WHEN THE TIMER GOES OFF. IF IT HAPPENS TO BE AT THE END OF THE THOUGHTS, PERFECT TI TIMING, BUT IF NOT.
WE ARE FLEXIBLE ENOUGH FOR YOU TO CONCLUDE YOUR THOUGHTS AFTER THE TIMER. IT IS WHAT WE HAVE ALWAYS DONE
AND WILL CONTINUE TO DO. >> THANK YOU.
>> JUDGE BECERRA: THANK YOU. OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS MISS GINA
ROGERS. >> GOOD MORNING, COMMISSIONERS.
LISTENING JUST NOW TO THE FAMILY SPEAK, JUST BROUGHT TEARS TO MY EYES. IT REMINDS ME OF THE WONDERFUL DEDICATION AND DEVOTION TO THIS COMMUNITY.
THAT IS PROVIDED BY THIS CULTURE, HISPANIC CULTURE.
AND I'M HERE TO SUPPORT TODAY THE PROCTER & GAMBLE.
I AM A MEMBER OF THE COUNCIL FOR THE INDIGENOUS TEJANO COMMUNITY. AND OUR MISSION TO INTEN INTENTIONALLY PRESERVE THE HISTORY, THE TRADITIONS, THE RICH CULTURE OF THE INDIGENOUS AND TEJANO COMMUNITY FROM HAYS COUNTY. AND WE ARE ACCOMPLISHING THIS THROUGH RESEARCH OF THE EARLIEST FAMILIES BY CONDUCTING ORAL HISTORIES, THROUGH ART, CULTURE, AND PRIVILEGED TO BE MENTORED BY THE INDIGENOUS CULTURE INSTITUTE.
WE WANT TO THANK OUR FOUNDING NOBS WORKED TIRELESSLY TO PROMOTE THE HISTORY OF THOSE WHO HAVE GONE BEFORE US.
MOST ESPECIALLY THE EARLY FAMILIES NAMED IN THE PROCLAMATION TODAY WHO ARE WORTHY OF THIS.
PROCLAMATION. >> JUDGE BECERRA: THANK YOU
VERY MUCH. >> JUDGE, BEFORE WE GO ON, JUDGE, I WANT TO MAKE A COMMENT.
I SPECIFICALLY WANT TO THANK MISS ROGERS FOR COMING AND THE CONTRIBUTIONS OF SANTOS. SAN FOES ALBA WAS A CITY COUNCILMAN IN DRIPPING STRINGS. SERVED 24 YEARS AND A GREAT G GUY. I WILL TELL A SHORT STORY, IF YOU DON'T MIND. ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS I DID WHEN I MOVED TO DRIPPING SPRINGS WAS JOIN THE LIONS C CLUB. AND ONE OF THE BIGGEST CONTRIBUTIONS THIS HE MAKE IS THE LIGHTING FOR DOWNTOWN DRIPPING SPRINGS. A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T KNOW THAT A CITY COUNCILMAN'S JOB IS NOT JUST GOING TO A COUNCIL MEETING EVERY DAY. SANTOS PERSONALLY DONATED LIT RATLY HUNDREDS OF HOURS EVERY YEAR.
HE SAT IN THE WASTEWATER FACILITY FOR HOURS ON ENDS IN DRIPPING SPRINGS BECAUSE THAT IS WHERE ALL OF THE LIGHTS FOR ALL THE DRIPPING SPRINGS WERE STORED AND REPLACE EVERY SINGLE
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BURNED OUTS BULB AT THE END OF THE SEASON TO ENSURE THAT THE FAMILIES OF DRIPPING SPRINGS HAD CHRISTMAS LIGHTS.I AM TALKING HUNDREDS OF LIGHTS A YEAR AND DID IT ON HIS OWN TIME. AND HE IS A PROUD MEMBER OF THE VFW THERE AND THOSE KIND OF THINGS, BUT PERSONAL CONTRIBUTIONS LIKE THAT THAT WE SHOULD ALL BE PROUD OF AND HE IS A GREAT PERSON. SO THANK YOU.
>> JUDGE BECERRA: THANK YOU FOR SAYING THAT, COMMISSIONERS.
AND TONS UPON TONS OF STORIES JUST LIKE THAT ONE THAT ARE NOT TOLD. THAT IS WHY I AM SO GRATEFUL TO MISS ALVA ROGERS AND HER GR GRUP'S EFFORTS AND THE COMMUNITY COMING OUT TODAY TO SHARE THOSE STORIES BECAUSE TOO MANY GOOD, GREAT, MAGNIFICENT RESIDENTS OF OUR CITY THAT HAVE, DO AND WILL LIVE HERE THAT ARE CONTRIBUTIONS THAT ARE IMMEASURABLE. THANK YOU FOR THAT WONDERFUL COMMENT. NEXT UP, MISS ANITA COLLINS.
>> HI, ANITA COLLINS, OFFICE OF THE HAYS COUNTY JUDGE.
I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT -- WE SEE A LOT OF PROCTER & GAMBLES COMING INTO OUR OFFICE. AND WHEN -- WHEN YOU GROW UP NOT SEEING YOUR FAMILIES' NAMES IN THE TEXTBOOK, IN THE HISTORY BOOKS, YOU THINK YOU ARE NOTHING.
YOU THINK IT DOESN'T MATTER. AND IT WASN'T UNTIL I WENT INTO COLLEGE AND I WENT TO COLLEGE LATE IN LIFE, AND MY MINOR WAS IN CHICANO STUDIES AND I ST STARTED TO BUILD UP THAT PRIDE AGAIN OF WHO MY FAMILY WAS. SO WHEN I SAW THIS PROCLAMATION -- GOSH, IT JUST MADE ME HE FEEL LIKE THIS.
BECAUSE I SAW ALL THE NAMES OF ALL THE PEOPLE HERE IN HERE IN HAYS COUNTY WHO WERE ALL RELATED.
AND THIS IS JUST VERY SPECIAL. IT'S A PROUD MOMENT FOR ME.
EVEN THOUGH I AM NOT EVEN LISTED ON THE PROCLAMATION.
BUT I -- IT IS A PROUD MOMENT FOR ME.
I AM SO HAPPY TO SEE EVERYBODY HERE.
I THANK THE COUNCIL FOR THE INDIGENOUS AND TEJANO PEOPLE DURING HISPANIC HERITAGE MONTH. THIS IS WHAT IT IS ABOUT.
IT IS ABOUT BUILDING PRIDE IN THE HISPANIC COMMUNITY AND PRIDE IN THE HISPANIC COMMUNITY.
AND THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR SPONSORING THIS PROCLAMATION.
>> JUDGE BECERRA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT HEARTFELT STATEMENT. OUR LAST SPEAKER ON THE AGENDA ITEM IS MR. ROJELIO CA SAS. IF YOU PLEASE APPROACH THE
NAY NAME IS R OJELIO CASAS AND I AM HOPE REPRESENTING THE PIONEER BACK IN THE DAY FOR MEMBERS OF THE FOLKS AROUND HERE. HE OWNED IN SPITE OF HIS NOT KNOWING HOW TO WRITE, READ OR SPEAK ENGLISH WELL, HE WAS ABLE TO ACCOMPLISH A LOT IN HIS LIFE TOGETHER WITH MANY OTHER PEOPLE AROUND HERE. AND HE TAUGHT ME A LOT OF -- A LOT OF GOOD PRINCIPLES OF HOW TO BE A GOOD CITIZENS, TO BE RESPECTFUL. TO BE HARD-WORKING.
AND ABLE TO ACCOMPLISH LIKE OWNING -- A GOOD OL' DANCING CLUB BACK IN THE WOODS OVER THERE WHERE PEOPLE ENJOYED A LOT. AND HAD A GOOD TIME WITH THAT HE DID ALL THE TIME ON SUNDAYS. AND ALSO, HE WAS ABLE TO MANAGE COUPLE OF GAS STATIONS AROUND HERE.
AND FINALLY BUILT HIS DREAM WHICH WAS KARP LA VICTORIA GROCERY STORE THAT REPRESENTED THE NEIGHBORHOOD FOR MANY YEARS AND HE ALSO WAS FAITHFUL OF DOING THE FIESTAS.
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TODAY WE THINK AND SAY WHAT HAPPENED TO THE GOOD OL' DAYS WHERE IT WAS A BIG DEAL IN OUR LIVES.TODAY I AM VERY PROUD OF YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THIS PROCLAMATION THAT HOPEFULLY WE CAN BRING THOSE MEMORIES BACK DOING THOSE PARADES THAT WERE WONDERFUL DAYS WHERE MY WIFE CHAIRS. I MARRIED CARMEN, WHO IS ONE OF SIX GIRLS AND ONE BOY OUT OF THAT FAMILY.
THAT THEY DID A LOT OF COTTON PICKING IN THOSE DAYS AND STUFF LIKE THAT. WENT INTO THE FIELDS.
AND TELL ME THE STORIES THAT ON THIS DAY IN SIETEMBRE AND GET READY FOR DESISES AND BUY THE DRESSES AND WOW.
I AM SO HAPPY THIS IS HAPPENING AGAIN, THIS PROCLAMATION AND WE MAY PROBABLY TRY TO PERHAPS DO THE PARADES AGAIN AND DO ALL THOSE FUN THINGS THAT OUR CHILDREN CAN SEE WHAT OUR GRANDPARENTS DID FOR US. AND THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR
YOUR TIME. >> JUDGE BECERRA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR BEING HERE. THAT CONCLUDES OUR INDIVIDUALS SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON THIS AGENDA ITEM.
BEFORE WE VOTE, I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THAT AFTER THIS VOTE, THOSE THAT WOULD LIKE TO BE CAL CALMTUREED -- THIS IS A COURT OF RECORDS. I WANT TO KNOW.
I SEE CAMERAS AND PHONES, BUT I WANT TO YOU KNOW THIS IS A COURT OF RECORD AND EVERYTHING THAT GOES ON IN HERE IS RECORDED AND PUT IN A LITTLE TIME CAPSULE IN THE ETHERNET -- THE INTERNET, WHATEVER YOU CALL IT.
THE CRAZY COMPUTER WORLD. IT IS STORED FOREVER IS THE POINT. ANYWAY -- SO IT WILL ALWAYS -- IT WILL ALWAYS BE HERE IF YOU WANT GO BACK TO IT.
ITALICIZE, UNDERLINE, ANYONE'S COMMENTS, GO BACK TO THE COUNTY'S WEB SITE AND REFERENCE IT.
IT WILL BE FOR YOU AND ANITA COLLINS FROM OUR OFFICE WORKS TIRELESSLY -- CONTINUES TO WORK TIRELESSLY AN CREATED A SET-UP OF OUR OFFICE TO THE RIGHT OUTSIDE OF HERE WITH ALL THE OTHER AWESOME THINGS THAT YOU MAY APPRECIATE AND ENJOY.
SO DR. CARDENAS, WILL YOU READ THE PROCLAMATION.
>> MS. CARDENAS: I WILL. PROCLAMATION RECOGNIZING HISPANIC HERITAGE MONTH AND THE CONTRIBUTIONS MADE BY THE INDIGENOUS AND TEJANO FIRST FAMILY.
WHEREAS THE UNITED STATES OBSERVES NATIONAL HISPANIC HERITAGE MONTH BY CELEBRATING THE HERITAGE, CULTURE AND MANY CONTRIBUTIONS OF THOSE WHOSE ANCESTORS WERE INDIGENOUS TO NORTH AMERICA, CAME FROM SPAIN, MEXICO, THE CARIBBEAN, CENTRAL AMERICA AND SOUTH AMERICA. WHEREAS WHAT BEGAN IN 1968 AS HSPANIC HERITAGE WEEK UNDER PRESIDENT JOHNSON WAS EXPAND BY PRESIDENT REAGAN IN 1988 TO COVER A 30-DAY PERIOD SORTING SEPTEMBER 15 AND ENDING OCTOBER 15.
AND WHEREAS, THE COUNCIL FOR THE INDIGENOUS AND TEJANO COMMUNITY A CAN KNOWLEDGE THAT THE PEOPLE WHO ARE CURRENTLY LABELED HISPANIC LIVED IN HAYS COUNTY FOR OVER 14,000 YEARS.
AND WHEREAS, IN SAN MARCOS, THE CENTRO PLAZA LAID OUT FROM THE SAN MARCOS AND TITLES OF 13 TOWN LOTS IN 1808 TO THE FOLLOWING ORIGINAL SETTLERS, JOSE SALINAS.
>> THE NEW SETTLERS BRINGING THE POPULATION TO 82.
AND WHEREAS, THIS YEAR'S NATIONAL THEME ESPERANZA, A CELEBRATION OF HISPANIC HERITAGE AND HOPE ENCOURAGES US TO REFLECT ON OUR INDIGENOUS AND TEJANO PEOPLE WHO INFLUENCED HAYS COUNTY HISTORY AND SERVE TODAY AS LEADERS IN ALL ASPECTS OF LIFE. WHEREAS HAYS COUNTY IS THE HOME OF THESE EARLY TEJANO FIRST FAMILIES AND LANDOWNERS.
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AND WHEREAS THESE TEJANO FIRST FAMILIES OF HAYS COUNTY NOT ONLY PROVIDED SWEAT EQUITY IN THE COTTON FIELDS, FARMS AND RANCHES, BUILT HOMES, ESTABLISHED CHURCHES, BUSINESSES AND CEMETERIES AND GAVE OF THEIR TIME AND ARE SOURCES TO BUILD UP HAYS CO COUNTY.THE TEJANO FIRST FAMILIES ESTABLISHED IMPORTANT COMMUNITY ORGANIZATION SUCH AS THE WOODMEN OF THE WORLD.
AMERICAN GI FORUM MEN'S CHAPTER OF SAN MARCOS.
THE AMERICAN GI FORUM. WOMEN'S AUXILIARY.
THE LEAGUE OF UNITED LA LATIN-AMERICAN CITIZENS, LULAC.
AND FOUNDERS OF SAN PEDRO CEMETERY.
WHEREAS, IN THE SPIRIT OF UN UNITY, THE COUNCIL FOR THE INDIGENOUS AND TEJANO COMMUNITY ALONG WITH THE HISPANIC HERITAGE COMMITTEE OF HAYS COUNTY HISTORICAL COMMISSION INVITE TO YOU JOIN US AS WE RECOGNIZE AND CELEBRATE THE VALUABLE CONTRIBUTIONS MADE BY THE MANY INDIGENOUS TEJANO FIRST FAMILIES. NOW THEREFORE IT BE RESOLVED THAT THE PROCLAIM SEPTEMBER 15-TO RECOGNIZE OUR RICH CULTURE IN HAYS COUNTY ADOPTED THIS THE 21ST DAY OF SEPTEMBER,
2021. >> JUDGE BECERRA: WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. VERY WELL READ DR. CARDENAS.
APPRECIATE THE PRONUNCIATIONS. PLEASE CALL THE ROLE.
>> DEBBIE INGALSBE: YES. >> MARK JONES: YES.
>> LON SHELL: YES. >> WALT SMITH: YES.
>> JUDGE BECERRA: RESOUNDINGLY AND ENTHUSIASTICALLY AND UNITEDLY YES. ANY OTHER COMMENTS BEFORE WE GO
ON? >> DEBBIE INGALSBE: JUDGE, I WANT TO THANK EVERYBODY FOR BEING HERE TODAY TO CELEBRATE THIS WONDERFUL PROCLAMATION AND THIS MONTH.
IT IS AN HONOR FOR ME TO CELEBRATE WITH YOU ALL AND SO THANK YOU ALL SO WERE FOR BEING HERE.
>> JUDGE BECERRA: IT IS CUSTOMARY FOR ANYONE INTERESTED IN BEING CAPTURED IN THIS HISTORIC MOMENT TO COME ON UP FOR A PICTURE WITH THE PROCLAMATION.
>> JUDGE, MAY I SAY A FEW WORDS.
I WAS UNDER THE IMPRESSION AS ONE OF THE ORGANIZATIONS, THE HISPANIC -- THE HAYS COUNTY HISTORICAL COMMISSION.
WOULD YOU PREFER AFTER THE PICTURE?
>> JUDGE BECERRA: I THINK WE SHOULD -- AFTER THE PICTURE YOU
WON'T BE HEARD. >> ALL RIGHT, I WOULD LIKE TO BE HEARD. I AM ROSINA.
AND I WAS BORN AND BLESSED IN SAN MARCOS.
AND I'M HERE TODAY AS A MEMBER OF THE HAYS COUNTY HISTORICAL COMMISSION. AND I AM ALSO A MEMBER OF CENTRO AND A MEMBER OF LULAC. AND IN CELEBRATION OF NATIONAL HISPANIC HERITAGE MONTH, I WANTED TO SHARE A FEW WORDS AND I AM PROUD TO SAY I CELEBRATE HISPANIC HERITAGE MONTH EVERY DAY. WE ARE CHOSEN TO RECOGNIZE THE CONTRIBUTIONS OF SOME HISPANIC AMERICAN ORGANIZATIONS.
AND TODAY, WE ARE RECOGNIZING THE AMERICAN GI FORUM.
I WANT TO INVITE YOU -- AND I HOPE YOU TAKE THE TIME -- TO VISITS A DISPLAY HERE IN THE ROTUNDA.
IT WAS ESTABLISHED IN SAN MARCOS IN 1948.
THEY DID NOT DIRECTLY INVOLVE THEMSELVES IN PARTISAN POL POLITICS, BUT THEY WERE VERY INVOLVED IN COMMUNITY AFFAIRS AND REGISTERS HISPANICS TO REGISTER TO VOTE.
ONE OF THE OBSTACLES FACING THE COMMUNITY WAS THE EXISTING OF THE POLL TAX THAT MANY YOUNG PEOPLE TODAY DON'T KNOW THAT ONE TIME WITH HE HAD TO PAY TO VOTE.
THE GI FORUM CAME UP WITH A CREATIV STRATEGY THAT WAS HIGHLY RESPECTED. THEY SPONSORED DANCES, AT ADMISSION WAS $1.75 THAT HAPPENED TO BE THE POLL TACKS.
THEY GAIN ENTRANCE TO THE DANCE AND THE GI FORUM SUCCEEDED IN REGISTERING HUNDREDS OF VOTERS. THE FIRST NINE WERE ALL MEMBERS OF THE GI FORUM OF A VERY PROUD DAUGHTER OF REUBEN REESE, AUGUSTINE LUCI O, JR MOLINA. PEDRO RODRIGUEZ, LUCIANA
. >>> MANY MORE WOULD FOLLOW SERVING. AND OUR OWN CONSTABLE HERE DAVID PETERSON. THE AMERICAN GI FORUM SUCCEEDED AND WON SEVERAL SEATS ON CITY COUNCIL, SCHOOL BOARD.
WE INVITE TO YOU VIEW ONE DISPLAY CASE IN THE ROTUNDA AND ADD ITEMS FOLLOWING MERMAID WEEK.
WE ARE SHARING WITH MERMAID WEEK TO HAVE SOME PLACE THERE.
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I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT A LITTLE FUNNY THING -- NOT SO FUNNY REALLY, BUT JUST AN ITEM OF INTEREST IN LOOKING THROUGH SOME OF MY FATHER'S BELONGINGS SO THAT THERE IS A TAX RECEIPT FROM 1948 FOR $1775 IN THE DISPLAY CASE.-- $1.75 IN THE DISPLAY CASE. MY PARENTS WERE BOTH MEMBERS OF THE GI FORUM. IN ADDITION I AM EXTREMELY PROUD THAT HE WAS A COUNTY COMMISSIONER AND STAT WHERE YOU ARE MANY YEARS AGO. MY DAD WAS THE ONLY GI FORUM TO SERVE AS THE STATE. AND THANK THE MEMBERS OF THE GI FORUM PAST AN PRESENT FOR THEIR CONTRIBUTIONS THAT THEY MADE AND WILL CONTINUE TO MAKE IN THE FIGHT FOR EDUCATIONAL QUALITY, POLITICAL REPRESENTATION, VETERANS RIGHTS AND MORE. THANK YOU, GI FORUM FOR PAVING THE WAY. AND THANK YOU FOR THE LOCAL GI FORUM WHO IS LOANING US SOME VERY INTERESTING ARTIFACTS AND
PHOTOS IN THE ROTUNDA. >> JUDGE BECERRA: THANK YOU, DOCTOR. SO WELL SAID.
ARE WOODMAN OF THE WORLD HERE. WE WOULD LIKE TO GIVE YOU A MOMENT IN TIME TO SAY SOMETHING ABOUT THIS AS WELL.
>> THANK YOU, JUDGE. THANK YOU FOR HAVING US HERE.
THANK YOU FOR THIS PROCLAMATION AND HONORED TO BE PART OF ONE OF THE ORGANIZATIONS IN PROCLAMATION.
MY NAME IS DANIEL GONZALEZ AND I'M HERE TODAY REPRESENTING WOODMEN OF THE WORLD. A NOT-FOR-PROFIT INSURANCE COMPANY STARTED IN OMAHA, NEBRASKA, JUNE 6, 1890.
131 YEARS AGO. THE CHARTER ESTABLISHED IN SAN MARCOS JANUARY 31 OF 1909. ON BOTH SIDES OF MY FAMILY, MY GONZALEZ SIDE, MY GRANDMOTHER WAS A LUCI O, ONE OF THE BLAST NAMES IN THE PROCLAMATION AND MY MOTHER'S SIDE WAS MENDEZ AND ALSO FLORES. I AM VERY PROUD TO BE HERE REPRESENTING THE FAMILIES AS WELL TOO.
PART OF THIS PROCLAMATION AS WELL AS THE WOODMEN OF THE WORLD. LET ME TELL YOU ABOUT WOODMEN.
STARTED WITH A DUAL PART MISSION TO PROTECT FAMILIES FROM FINANCIAL HARDSHIP WHILE PROVIDING OPPORTUNITIES TO SERVE OTHERS IN THE COMMUNITY. GOING 131 YEARS LATER, OUR MISSION HAS NOT CHANGED. WE ARE STILL HERE DOING THE SAME THING THAT WE STARTED ON DAY ONE.
WE OPERATE IN ALL 50 STATES. AND HAVE NEARLY 900 CHAPTERS ACROSS THE NATION, AS WELL AS 700,000 MEMBERS.
SO, AGAIN, WE GIVE BACK TO COMMUNITIES THROUGH FLAG DONATIONS, WHICH WE WEREN'T ALLOWED TO DO LAST YEAR BECAUSE OF EVERYTHING GOING ON BUT WE ARE ABLE TO DO THEM AGAIN.
SO WE WOULD BE HAPPY TO PROVIDE FLAGS TO THE COUNTY ANYWHERE FOR THE CITY BUILDINGS. THAT IS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE DO TODAY THAT WE STARTED THROUGH OUR FRATERNAL PROGRAM.
THANK YOU FOR HAVING US HERE AND BEING A PART OF THE ORGANIZATION. WE ARE BLESSED WITH OUR RICH HISPANIC COMMUNITY AND BEING ABLE TO BE HERE.
THANKS AGAIN. >> JUDGE BECERRA: THANK YOU.
JUST TO BE FAIR AND SAFE, ANY ORGANIZATION MENTIONED IN THIS PROCLAMATION REPRESENTED HERE THAT WANTED TO SAY SOMETHING THAT DIDN'T? BECAUSE THAT WASN'T THE PLAN, BUT WE WILL HAPPILY ALLOW YOUR ORGANIZATION FOR A QUICK MOMENT IF YOU PLEASE APPROACH THE PODIUM?
>> THANK YOU. MENTIONED THE AMERICAN G I FOR PUMPKIN. I AM JESSIE SANCHEZ.
I AM A TREASURER OF THE AMERICAN GI FORUM AND I SERVE FOR THE ORGANIZATION. SO I WOULD LIKE TO SAY A FEW KIND WORDS BUT I WOULD LIKE TO THANK JUDGE BECERRA, THE COMMISSIONERS COURT, THE COMMUNITY, THE HISTORICAL COMMISSION FOR ACKNOWLEDGING DURING THE HISPANIC HERITAGE MONTH SUCH FAMILIES, SUCH ORGANIZATIONS.
AND WE HAVE BEEN AT THE FOREFRONT SINCE 1948.
THE AMERICAN GI FORUM STARTED IN 1948.
IN 1948, ALSO, BECAME THE THIRD CHAPTER ORGANIZE $IN THE STATE OF TEXAS. LED BY THE FOUNDER.
FOLLOWING THAT POSITION, MR. FRANK CASTENERA WAS ALSO ELECTED CHAIRMAN. SO WE HAVE FOUNDING MEMBERS.
I THINK THEY MIGHT HAVE BEEN MENTIONED OR NOT MENTIONED LET ME GO THROUGH THE LIST IN 1949, SOME OF THE ORIGINAL MEMBERS THAT FOUNDED THE ORGANIZATION. ALL THE BROTHERS SERVED ON THE AMERICAN GI FORUM AND VETERANS OF WORMED WAR II.
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SAN MARCOS. WE HAVE INVOLVEMENT FOR THE RETURNING VETERAN AND TO INSPIRE TO IMPROVE CONDITIONS IN THEIR OWN COMMUNITY, ALSO WITH IT IS LOCAL, STATE, THE NATIONAL LEVEL. WE CONTINUE TO PROMOTE AN AGENDA THAT WAS PUT FORTH SINCE 1948.THE BETTERMENT OF ALL CITIZENS AND THE AMERICAN GI FORUM OF SAN MARCOS. AND WITH THE HELP AS NOTED EARLIER, THE ONES WE REFER TO BUT ARE NOT CONSIDERED GI FORUM FACTORS HAD A MAJOR IMPACT ON THE COMMUNITY FROM SAN MARCOS WITH THE LOCAL GI FORUM MENTIONED THE POLL TAX AND VOTER REGISTRATION. WE WERE ONE OF THE FIRST ORGANIZATIONS IF NOT THE FIRST THAT WAS ORGANIZING IN HAYS COUNTY IN THE CITY OF SAN MARCOS.
AND WE ADDRESSED VOTER REGISTRATION.
WE ADDRESS EDUCATION. AND THE TIME ALLOWED MINORITY.
AND ONE OF THE BIGGEST FOR THE G. I. FORUM ACTIVATION IN PUBLIC SERVICES AS WE REFER TO THE BARRIO DE LA TORAH.
A LOT OF PUBLIC SERVICES TO THE GI FORUM.
IN 1992 ALSO, MENTIONED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE ELECTIONS.
THE GI FORUM LED IN ONE LAWSUIT AGAINST SAN MARCOS INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICT IN A LAWSUIT IN 1992.
THAT IS WHY WE HAVE NOW DIFFERENT CANDIDATES APLYING FOR DIFFERENT POSITIONS BECAUSE OF THE GI FORUM DIRECT IMPACT FOR. THEY LITTLE BIT OF THE CITY COUNCIL. AND AS WE CONTINUE TO CONTINUE SUPPORTING ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS WITH PTO DONATIONS AND RECOGNIZING SAN MARCOS, MEMBERS OF THE GI FORUM ARE ELECTED TO SERVE YOU TO SERVE AS COUNTY COMMISSIONERS, DA, CITY COU COUNCIL, SCHOOL BOARD AND COUNTY EMPLOYEES AND CONTINUE TO DO SO. EDUCATION IS A FREEDOM AND FREEDOM IS EVERYBODY'S BUSINESS.
THANK YOU, SIR. >> JUDGE BECERRA: THANK YOU SO MUCH. [APPLAUSE] WE HAVE ONE MORE. STATE YOUR YOU NAME AND WHO YOU
REPRESENT. >> HELLO, EVERYONE.
GLORIA SALASAR. ONE OF THE CO-FOUNDERS OF CENTRO AND CURRENTLY THE PROGRAM COORDINATOR.
SO PROUD TO SEE SO MANY PEOPLE OUT ON BEHALF OF THIS PROCLAMATION. ONE OF THE THINGS THINK THAT WANT TO POINT OUT -- AND I KNOW THIS IS EVERYWHERE, BUT I WANT TO MENTION THAT NOT ONLY DID THE AMERICAN G. I. FORUM REALLY LEAD THE COMMUNITY HERE TO BEGIN TO PROVIDE LEADERSHIP IN SAN MARCOS. BUT I WANT TO GIVE CREDIT TO ALL THE WOMEN WHO ALSO ARE PART OF THAT.
I AM NOT FROM SAN MARCOS. BUT WHEN I CAME IN THE EARLY 70S, I BELIEVE BECAME INVOLVED IN THE COMMUNITY.
I SAW THE WORK OF ALL OF THOSE WOMEN.
THOSE RESPECTS WOMEN WHO WERE WALKING THE STREETS WHEN THE MEN WERE MAKING DEALS, THE WOMEN WERE OUT THERE WALKING THE STREETS AND TAKING CARE OF GETTING THOSE VOTES IN TO MAKE THE CHANGES THAT NEEDED TO BE HAPPENING.
SO I THANK EVERYONE. I KNOW THE PEOPLE IN LA VICTORIA. CERTAINLY THEY HAVE WALKED THEIR BLOCK FOR A VERY LONG TIME.
I WANT TO THANK ALL THE PEOPLE THAT HELPED US BE -- BECOME WHAT WE HAVE NOW. GOTTEN TO WHERE WE ARE HERE IN SAN MARCOS. WE STILL HAVE A LOT TO DO BUT REALLY HELPFUL TO HAVE ALLIES. YOU I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE A MOMENT TO THANK THE HAYS COUNTY HISTORICAL COMMISSION AND THE HISPANIC HERITAGE COMMITTEE PREPARING THIS BOOK.
IT TALKS OF THE MICROSOFT OF HISPANICS.
IT IS AVAILABLE AT CENTRO IF YOU WOULD LIKE SOME.
BUT IT IS A HISTORY OF A LOT OF THE FAMILIES HERE.
WE ARE LOCATED ON -- IN THE MEXICAN SCHOOL BUILDING.
SO THERE IS A TREASURE THAT WE STRIVE EVERY DAY TO KEEP ALIVE IN SAN MARCOS. AS WE RECOGNIZE THE WOMEN AS I WAS MENTIONING. MISS DEBBIE INGALSBE,
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COMMISSIONER FROM PRECINCT ONE IS THE FIRST HISPANIC WOMAN TO SERVE ON THE COMMISSIONERS COURT.THANK YOU FOR EVERYBODY WHO IS HERE TODAY.
THANK YOU, JUDGE BECERRA, AND THANK YOU, COMMISSIONERS.
>> JUDGE BECERRA: AS WAS MENTIONED, A DISPLAY ON THE FIRST FLOOR OF THE GI FORUM MEMORABILIA.
IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO DO THAT. NOW YOU HAVE THE PRIVILEGE OF COMING UP FOR A PICTURE.
TO GET EVERYONE'S ATTENTION. LOOK, I WILL GET YOU -- I WILL GET YOU A COPY OF IT.
PLEASE LOOK AT KIM, OUR PIO. SHE IS TAKING A PICTURE.
EVEN IF YOU ARE WEARING A MASK, WE WILL SEE IT WHEN YOU SMILE, WE WILL SEE IT IN YOUR EYES. EVERYBODY FEELS YOUR HAPPINESS
>> JUDGE BECERRA: THANK YOU, EVERYONE! DR. CARDENAS, PLEASE. OPEN GENDA ITEM NUMBER 1.
>> I WOULD LIKE TO SAY I HAVE BEEN CRAVING PAUL'S CHICKEN FRIED STEAK FOR A LONG TIME. I PUT DOWN A LOT OF CHICKEN
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FRIED STEAKS IN MY DAY. >> JUDGE BECERRA: PLEASE OPEN
[1. Adopt a Proclamation declaring October 1, 2021 as National Manufacturing Day. INGALSBE/SHELL]
AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 1. >> MS. CARDENAS: NUMBER 1, ADOPT A PROCLAMATION DECLARING OCTOBER 1, 2021 AS NATIONAL
MANUFACTURING DAY. >> SO MOVED.
>> SECOND. >> JUDGE BECERRA: PLEASE READ
THE PROCLAMATION. >> MS. CARDENAS: PROCTER & GAMBLE DECLARING OCTOBER 1, 2021 AS NATIONAL MANUFACTURING DAY. WHEREAS HAYS COUNTY, GREATER SAN MARCOS PARTNERSHIP AND THE GREATER SAN MARCOS MANUFACTURING ASSOCIATION RECOGNIZE THE ECONOMIC IMPACT OF MANUFACTURING ON HAYS CO COUNTY.
AND WHEREAS THE MANUFACTURING INDUSTRY CONSTITUTES 16.1% OF TOTAL EMPLOYMENT IN HAYS CO COUNTY, TEXAS IN QUARTER ONE OF 2021 ACCORDING TO JOBS EQ. WHEREAS THE AVERAGE ANNUAL WAGE FOR MANUFACTURING IS $60,000 IN HAYS COUNTY COMPARED TO THE ANNUAL AVERAGE WAGE OF $44,000 ACROSS ALL INDUSTRIES.
WHEREAS, THE MANUFACTURING SECTOR PROVIDES JOBS SUCH AS ENGINEERS, CONSUMER PROGR PROGRAMMERS, RESEARCH MANAGERS, MECHANICS, MACHINE OPERATORS, FIRST LINE SUPERVISORS, PRODUCTION WORKERS, WELDERS AND MANY OTHER INDIVIUALS.
WHEREAS, THESE JOBS GENERATE SECONDARY JOBS THROUGHOUT THE REGION AND THE SERVICE, HOSPITALITY, EDUCATION AND OTHER SECTORS. AND WHEREAS, THE NATIONAL MANUFACTURING DAY WILL ENGAGE MANUFACTURERS IN THE :COUNTY OF HAYS FOR THE CONSOLIDATED INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICT AND PROVIDE INFORMATION FOR THE STEM-RELATED EDUCATIONAL PATHWAYS THIS HE COULD TAKE TO EARN OPPORTUNITIES WITHIN THE INDUSTRY TO PROVIDE WELL-PAYING JOBS WITH CAREER OPPORTUNITIES AND THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED THAT THE HAYS COUNTY KOMINGZ COMMISSIONER OF HAYS COUNTY, TEXAS PROCLAIM OCTOBER 1, 2021 AS NATIONAL MANUFACTURING DAY ADOPT THIS THE 21ST DAY OF 2
2021. >> JUDGE BECERRA: WE HAVE ONE PERSON TO SIGN UP TO SPEAK AND THEY HAVE ALREADY SPOKEN.
GOOD DEAL. SO THE PERSON SIGNED UP TO SPEAK HAS ALREADY SPOKEN. SO IF YOU WILL TAKE THE PODIUM.
STATE YOUR NAME AND TITLE FOR THE VIEWING PUBLIC.
>> THANK YOU, JUDGE BECERRA. AND FOR COMMISSIONERS.
MY NAME IS BARBARA THOMPSON. I AM DIRECTOR OF WORK FORCE DEVELOPMENT, BUSINESS RETENTION AND EXPANSION FOR THE SAN MARCOS PARTNERSHIP. VERY GOOD TO SEE YOU AGAIN.
I'M HERE IN FAVOR OF THIS PROCLAMATION THAT IS CELEBRATING OCTOBER 1 KARP NATIONAL MANUFACTURING DAY, AND IN FACT WE CELEBRATE ALL OF OCTOBER AS NATIONAL MANUFACTURING MONTH. I'M HERE WITH COLLEAGUES WHO I WILL SAY ARE THE MAGICIANS OF THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND CAREER AND TECHNICAL EDUCATION. AND I WOULD LIKE TO INTRODUCE THEM. IN ATTENDANCE WITH ME ARE VICTORIA VARGAS. IF YOU PLEASE STAND WHEN I CALL YOUR NAME. SHE IS ITS ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PROGRAM MANAGER FOR THE CITY OF KYLE.
SUSAN MITCHELL, THE CAREER EDUCATION DIRECTOR FOR HAYS COUNTY CISD. WE HAVE CJ ODOM THE CAREER ORGANIZER FOR SAN MARCOS. LAURIE HARTS, WHO IS THE MAJOR OF WORK FORCE DEVELOPMENT AND EXPANSION FOR THE GREATER SAN MARCOS. AND JD MOORE, THE DIRECTOR OF COMMUNICATION AND MARKETING FOR THE SAN MARCOS PARTNERSHIP ALL HERE IN SUPPORT AND IN FAVOR OF THIS PROCLAMATION.
ADDING WHAT YOU HAVE SAID WITHIN THE PROCLAMATION, THERE ARE 4600 JOBS IN MANUFACTURING PRODUCE THOUSANDS OF SECONDARY AND TERTIARY JOBS THROUGHOUT THIS REGION.
AND, OF COURSE, WE HAVE BEEN IN CONTACT WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS WHO, AS MUCH AS THE PANDEMIC WILL ALLOW, WILL BE WORKING WITH SOME OF THE INDUSTRIES TO ALLOW STUDENTS TO TOUR AND TO INTERACT WITH MANUFACTURERS SO THEY CAN LEARN MORE ABOUT THESE WONDERFUL CAREERS.
SO THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY, AND IF AFTER THE VOTE YOU WILL ALLOW US A PICTURE, WE WOULD BE GRATEFUL.
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>> JUDGE BECERRA: PERFECT. DR. CARDENAS, PLEASE CALL A
ROLE. >> BEFORE YOU DO THAT, I WOULD
LIKE TO ADD AN AMENDMENT. >> WE CAN'T VOTE ON IT AND
AMEND IT AFTERWARDS. >> JUDGE BECERRA: I THOUGHT
YOU SAID AMEND IT. >> I WANT TO MAKE SURE I WORK WITH CINDY WHO IS THE CTE COORDINATOR IN DRIPPING SPRINGS AND I WANT TO EXPAND OUR PROCLAMATION TO INCLUDE ALL FOUR SCHOOL DISTRICTS IN THE COUNTY IF THAT IS AMENABLE TO THE AUTHORS TO ADD WIMBERLY AND DRIPPING SPRINGS TO THE
PROCLAMATION. >> JUDGE BECERRA: ABSOLUTELY.
ANYTHING TO UNITE US WILL BE USEFUL.
NO PROBLEM. DR. CARDENAS, PLEASE CALL THE
>> MARK JONES: YES. >> WALT SMITH: YES.
>> DEBBIE INGALSBE: YES WITH THAT AMENDMENT.
>> JUDGE BECERRA: YES. PERFECT.
[2. Adopt a Proclamation declaring September 17-23, 2021 as Constitution Week. BECERRA]
>> JUDGE BECERRA: DR. CAR CARDENAS, OPEN AGENDA ITEM 2.
>> MS. CARDENAS: ITEM 2, ADOPT PROCLAMATION DECLARING SEPTEMBER 17-23, 2021 CONSTITUTION WEEK.
>> JUDGE BECERRA: A MOTION AND A SECONDS.
PLEASE READ THE PROCLAMATION. >> PROCLAMATION DECLARING SEPTEMBER 17-23, 2021 AS CONSTITUTION WEEK.
THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND EMBODIED THE PRINCIPLES OF LIMITED GOVERNMENT IN A PUBLIC TO BE RULED BY LAW WHEREAS SEPTEMBER 17, 2021 MARKS THE 234TH ANNIVERSARY OF THE FRAMING OF THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA BY THE CONSTITUTIONAL KARP CONVENTION.
AND WHEREAS, IT IS FITSING AND PROPER TO AFFORD OFFICIAL RECOGNITION TO THIS HISTORICAL DOCUMENT AND ITS MEMORABLE ANNIVERSARY AND TO THE PAT PATRIOTIC CELEBRATIONS WHICH WILL COMMEMORATE IT. WHEREAS PUBLIC LAW THE ISSUING OF A PROCLAMATION EACH YEAR BY PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA DESIGNATING SEPTEMBER 17-23 AS CONSTITUTION WEEK. NOW, THEREFORE, IT BE RESOLVED THAT THE HAYS COUNTY KOMINGZ COMMISSIONER HEARBY PROCLAIM THE WEEK OF SEPTEMBER 17-23, 2021 AS CONSTITUTION WEEK AND ENCOURAGE AWED STUDENTS TO READ THE CONSTITUTION AND THE PRIVILEGE OF BEING AN AMERICAN OF ALL THE RIGHTS AND RESPONSIBILITIES OF WHICH THAT PRIVILEGE ADOPTED THIS THE 21ST
DAY OF SEPTEMBER, 2021. >> JUDGE BECERRA: PERFECT AND
PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. >> MARK JONES: YES.
>> WALT SMITH: YES. >> LON SHELL: YES.
>> DEBBIE INGALSBE: YES. >> JUDGE BECERRA: YES.
IS THERE ANYONE HERE TO SPEAK ON -- COMMISSIONER?
>> JUDGE, I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO DEE WELLINGS.
SHE REACHED OUT TO ME TO HELP PUT FORTH THIS.
AND THE JUDGE IS VERY QUICK AND MEAT ME TOO IT.
THANK YOU FOR OFFERING THE PROCLAMATION AND JUST AS AN ADDED COMMENT, YESTERDAY I FOUND OUT THAT THE NEWEST MEMBER OF THE SONS OF THE AMERICAN REVOLUTION JUST AWARDED THE TITLE, JUDGE O'BRIAN.
HE GOT HIS CONFIRMATION YESTERDAY.
YOU CAN START WORKING HIM OVER TO HELPING TO SPEAK AT EVENTS
AND THOSE SORTS OF THINGS. >> JUDGE BECERRA: ANYONE HERE TO SPEAK? I DON'T WANT TO LEAVE ANYONE OUT. WE ALREADY CALLED THE ROLL.
[3. Adopt a Proclamation declaring October 2021 as CAPCOG Cybersecurity Awareness Month.]
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MAKE SURE -- CHECK, CHECK, CHECK.PLEASE ONLY AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 3.
>> MS. CARDENAS: NUMBER 3, ADOPT A PROCLAMATION DECLARING OCTOBER 2021 AT CAPCOG CYBER SECURITY AWARENESS MONTH.
>> JUDGE BECERRA: READ THE PROCLAMATION.
>> MS. CARDENAS: OCTOBER 2021 AS CAPCOG CYBER SECURITY AWARENESS MONTH. CAPCOG IS A POLITICAL SUBDIVISION OF THE STATE OF TEXAS -- IN WILLIAMSON COUNTY. AND CYBER SECURITY AWARENESS MONTH CELEBRATING EVERY OCTOBER IS A COLLABORATIVE EFFORT BETWEEN GOVERNMENT, PRIVATE SECTOR AND THE PEOPLE TO ENSURE EVERY AMERICAN HAVE THE RESOURCES THEY NEED TO STAY SAFER AND MORE SECURE ONLINE. AND WHEREAS, THE CAPITAL AREA COUNCIL OF GOVERNMENTS RECOGNIZE THE IMPORTANCE OF PROTECTING AGAIN CYBERTHREATS THAT MAY HAVE SIGNIFICANT IMPACT TO OUR INDIVIDUAL AND COLLECTIVE SECURITY AND PRI PRIVACY. AND WHEREAS, CRITICAL INFRASTRUCTURE SECTORS ARE INCREASINGLY RELIANT ON INFORMATION SYSTEMS TO SUPPORT FINANCIAL SERVICES, ENERGY, TELECOMMUNICATION, TRANSPORTATION, UTILITIES, HEALTH CARE AND EMERGENCY RESPONSE SYSTEMS. AND WHEREAS, THE 2021 CYBER SECURITY AWARENESS MONTH FOCUSES INCLUDE BE CYBER SMART, FIGHT THE FISH, EXPLORE, EXPLORE AND SHARE. CAREERS IN CYBERSECURITY.
AND WHEREAS, BE CYBER SMART WILL BE THE OFFICIAL HASHTAG FOR MONTH. AND WHEREAS, MAINTAINING THE SECURITY OF CYBER SPACE IS A SHARED RESPONSIBILITY AND EACH OF US HAVE A CRITICAL ROLE TO PLAY.
AND WHEREAS, THE CAPCOG EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE URGES ALL RESIDENTS TO PARTICIPATE IN CYBERSECURITY AWARENESS ACTIVITIES AND ASKED TO SEEK INFORMATION AT STOP, THINK, CONNECT CAMPAIGN AND TO BECOME MORE KNOWLEDGEABLE AND PRE PREPARED. NOW THEREFORE IT BE RESOLVED THAT THE HAYS COUNTY COMMISSIONERS COURT HEARBY DECLARE THE MONTH OF OCTOBER, 2021 AS CAPCOG CYBERSECURITY AWARENESS MONTH. PUT THAT KNOWLEDGE IN HOMES, SCHOOLS, PLACES OF WORSHIP AND COMMUNITIES.
ADOPT THIS THE 21ST DAY OF SEPTEMBER, 2021.
>> JUDGE BECERRA: BEAUTIFULLY CONTINUE TO.
AS IT SAYS IN THE PROCLAMATION. CAPCOG IS CAPITAL AREA COUNCIL OF GOVERNMENTS, AN ACRONYM. OUR JUSTICE LEAGUE OF SORTS.
AN ORGANIZATION THAT IS DOING A LOT OF GOOD.
SOMEONE FROM CAPCOG WHO IS W WISHING TO APPROACH THE PODIUM.
COMMISSIONER INGALSBE. >> DEBBIE INGALSBE: NO, JUDGE.
>> JUDGE BECERRA: MAKING SURE. >> COMMISSIONER SMITH.
>> WALT SMITH: YES. >> LON SHELL: YES.
>> MARK JONES: YES. >> DEBBIE INGALSBE: YES.
>> JUDGE BECERRA: YES. THAT INCLUDES PRESENTATIONS AND PROCLAMATION. AND IF I COULD ASK TO PULL AN AGENDA ITEM RIGHT UP FRONT IN THE BEGINNING IN CASE SOMEONE IS HERE TO HEAR ABOUT IT. I HAVE BEEN ASKED TO PULL AGENDA ITEMS NUMBER 7 AND 47. SO WE WILL NOT BE OPENING
NUMBER 7 AND NOT OPENING 47. >> SOMEBODY HERE FOR 49 HERE,
JUDGE. >> JUDGE BECERRA: SOMEONE FROM 49? OKAY, GOOD DEAL.
[Items 5, 6 & 8 - 13]
49. WOULD YOU PLEASE OPEN 5-123,EXCLUDING 7. >> FIVE, APPROVE PAYMENTS OF COUNTY INVOICES. SIX, APPROVE THE HAIMENTS OF UNITED HEALTH CARE CLAIMS. EIGHT, APPROVE THE PAYMENTS OF THE SEPTEMBER 30, 2021 PAYROLL DISBURSEMENTS IN THE AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $4,125,000 EFFECTIVE SEPTEMBER 30, 2021 AND POST TOTALS FOR WAGES, WITHHOLDINGS, DEDUCTIONS AND BENEFITS ON THE HAYS COUNTY WEB SITE ONCE FINALIZED.
9, APPROVE CONFIRM THE APPOINTMENT OF DARRYL PEREZ AS DEPUTY CONSTABLE BAILIFF IN THE HAYS COUNTY CONSTABLE PRECINCT OFFICE EFFECTIVE DATE SEPTEMBER 21, 2021.
TEN, AUTHORIZE THE COMMISSIONER PRECINCT ONE OFFICE TO SUPPORT THE CITY OF KYLE PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT RELATING TO DEVELOPING THE LAND OF 1408 CENTER STREET KYLE, AN UPCOMING PARK PROJECT. 11, AUTHORIZE THE HAYS COUNTY JUDGE TO EXECUTE AMENDMENTS TO THE HEALTH SERVICES AGREEMENT
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BETWEEN HAYS AND WELLPATH LCC TO EXTEND CURRENT CONTRACT UNTIL DECEMBER 31, 2021. 12, AMEND VARIOUS DEPARTMENTAL OPERATING SPECIAL REFER US INTO AND CAPITAL PROJECT FOR FISCAL YEAR 2021. 13, AUTHORIZE PAYMENT TO FED EX OFFICE FOR EMERGENCY ASSISTANCE PROGRAM PRINTING IN THE AMOUNT OF $749.70 IN WHICH NO PURCHASE ORDER WAS ISSUED REQUIRED BY THE HAYS COUNTY PURCHASING POLICY.>> DEBBIE INGALSBE: SO MOVED. >> SECOND.
>> JUDGE BECERRA: PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.
JOAN JONES YES. >> DEBBIE INGALSBE: YES.
>> LON SHELL: YES. >> WALT SMITH: YES HE.
>> JUDGE BECERRA: YES. PLEASE OPEN NUMBER 14 --
>> DEBBIE INGALSBE: NUMBER 9, THEY NEED TO PRESENT.
>> JUDGE BECERRA: YES, SIR. SORRY.
PLEASE APPROACH THE PODIUM. >> THANK YOU, JUDGE.
JUDGE SORRY ABOUT THAT. I HAVE A PACKED AGENDA AND
MOVING THROUGH. >> VERY BUSY MORNING.
TOTALLY UNDERSTAND. JUDGE, COMMISSIONER INGALSBE, COMMISSIONER JONES, COMMISSIONER SHELL, COMMISSIONER SMITH, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THIS MOMENT, WHICH IS VERY IMPORTANT DAY FOR -- TO SWEAR IN AND DEPUTIZE ONE OF OUR NEWEST -- ONE OF THE -- NEWEST DEPUTY CONSTABLE BAI BAILIFF, DARRYL PEREZ. HIS BROTHER ALREADY WORKS FOR US, WHO IS GOING TO LEAVE THE BAILIFF POSITION AND COMING TO THE CIVIL PROCESS SIDE OF BAG PATROL OFFICER FOR CIVIL PROCESS. WITH MR. PEREZ TODAY IS HIS WIFE, SANDRA, WHICH IS HIS BETTER SIDE HERE.
AND I HAVE A LITTLE BIO THAT I READ FOR OFFICERS COMING TO WORK FOR THE COUNTY AND OUR CITIZENS.
THIS IS WHAT I GOT ON -- AFTER AN INVESTIGATION -- I SHOULDN'T SAY INVESTIGATION, AFTER A GOOD THOROUGH BACKGROUND WORK CHECK ON ALL OF OUR OFFICERS. WE LIKE TO READ A LITTLE BIT OF BIO ON THEM. DARRYL PEREZ IS A -- DARRE LL PEREZ IS FROM LAREDO, TEXAS AND HAS ONE CHILD TO IS TEN MONTHS OLD. CONGRATULATIONS.
HE COMES FROM THE LAREDO POLICE ACADEMY WHICH WAS BACK IN 2013.
HE BEGAN HIS LAW ENFORCEMENT CAREER WITH THE LAREDO INDEPENDENT SCHOOL POLICE DEPARTMENT AS A SCHOOL RESOURCE OFFICER. THAT IS GREAT EXPERIENCE FOR US HERE. HE TRANSFERRED TO THE AUSTIN INDEPENDENT SCHOOL POLICE DEPARTMENT, TRAVIS COUNTY.
DARKS ARRELL HAS OVER 1600 TEXAS COMMISSION OF LAW ENFORCEMENT TRAINING HOURS. HE IS LICENSED AND CERTIFIED AS A PEACE OFFICER, ACTIVE LAW ENFORCEMENT, RESPONSE TEAM, ON ALERT WHICH IS DEFINITELY NEEDED IN OUR BUSINESS.
CERTIFIED HEALTH OFFICER, CERTIFIED HONOR GUARD AND BASIC PEACE OFFICER CERTIFICATION. WE WELCOME DARRELL TO HAYS
COUNTY. >> JUDGE BECERRA: THANK YOU.
[APPLAUSE] >> AND I ASK, COMMISSIONERS, IF IT WAS OKAY IF HIS WIFE CAN PIN THE BADGE.
>> JUDGE BECERRA: LET'S SWEAR HIM IN FIRST.
JUST FOR A TINY SECOND. BEAUTIFUL AND PERFECT.
AND WHEN WE ARE DONE, MAYBE YOU WOULD WANT TO SAY SOMETHING.
NO PRESSURE. BUT IF YOU FEEL LIKE IT, THE
PODIUM IS YOURS. >> THAT'S FINE.
THANK YOU, SIR. >> REPEAT AFTER ME I.
>> I DARRELL PEREZ DO SOLEMNLY SWEAR THAT I HAVE NOT DIRECTLY OR INDIRECTLY PAID, OFFERED, PROMISED TO PAY, CONTRIBUTED OR PROMISED TO CONTRIBUTE, ANY MONEY OR THING OF VALUE OR PROMISED ANY PUBLIC OFFICE OR EMPLOYMENT FOR THE GIVING AND WITHHOLDING OF A VOTE AT THE ELECTION AT WHICH I WAS ELE ELECTED. -- APPOINTED.
OR AS A REWARD TO SECURE MY APPOINTMENT OR CONFIRMATION WHICHEVER THE CASE MAY BE. SO HELP ME GOD.
>> DEBBIE INGALSBE: CONGRATULATIONS.
>> THANK YOU, MA'AM. [APPLAUSE]
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>> JUDGE BECERRA: WELCOME TO THE FAMILY.
[14. Authorize the County Judge to execute Amendment #3 to a Contract between Hays County and PBS of Texas related to Countywide Janitorial Services pursuant to RFP 2020-P02.]
>> JUDGE BECERRA: IF YOU WILL PLEASE OPEN AGENDA ITEM 14.
>> MS. CARDENAS: 14, AUTHORIZE THE COUNTY JUDGE TO EXECUTE AMENDMENT NUMBER 3 TO A CONTRACT BETWEEN HAYS COUNTY AND PBS OF TEXAS RELATE TODAY COUNTYWIDE JANITORIAL SERVICES
PURSUANT TO RFP 2020.P 02. >> MOTION.
>> SECOND. >> JUDGE BECERRA: THE ONLY PERSON WISH TO SPEAK. MR. AMAYA.
>> THANK YOU, JUDGE BECERRA. I WAS LOOKING IN THE BACK-UP HERE, AND SAYS SOMETHING ABOUT AN INCREASE OF 2736 PER MONTH TO $7511. AND I THINK THAT IS CLEANING THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE, BUT I AM NOT SURE BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE EVERYTHING WRITTEN DOWN BUT YOU CAN CORRECT ME ON THAT IF I AM WRONG. I AM TOTALLY AGAINST THAT.
ANYWAY. IT HAS DOWN HERE THE PRICING.
WHAT WE ARE PAYING FOR THESE SERVICES.
THE REGULAR WORKING HOURS $ $18.50 PERMAN HOUR OF THE MINIMUM THAT THE COUNTY WOULD LIKE TO BE ABLE TO PAY WORKERS.
SAYS AFTER-HOURS, WEEKEND AND HOLIDAY CLEANING $30.75 PERMAN SHOWER. THAT SEEMS ALL OF ME HIGH.
SUPERVISOR SEEMS EXCESSIVELY HIGH.
CARPET CLEANING. CARPET CLEANING NOT OUTLINED IN THE JANITORIAL SPECIFICATION OF THIS PROPOSAL WILL BE PROVIDED AS AN ADDITIONAL SERVICES AT FOLLOWING.
$.20 PER SQUARE FOOT. HOT WATER EXTRACTION IS $.25 PER SQUARE FOOT. MINIMUM CHARGE OF $175 PER C CALL. NOW I AM LOOKING AT THAT PER SQUARE FOOT CHARGE AND I AM THINKING HOW MANY TIMES DOES THE CARPET HAVE TO BE CLEANED BEFORE IT WILL BE CHEAPER TO JUST RAZE THE OLD BUILDING AND BUILD A NEW BUILDING.
$.20 PER SQUARE FOOT, ARE YOU KIDDING? AND IF THEY USE HOT WATER EXTRACTION, $.25 PER SQUARE FOOT. WE CAN'T AFFORD THIS.
WE NEED TO PUT THIS UP FOR WINDS AND LOOK FOR A NEW CLEANING SERVICE. AND, YOU KNOW, SEE IF WE CAN GET BETTER PRICES. NOT ONLY THAT, THE FREQUENCY OF THE CLEANING IS IN MY OPINION EXCESSIVE.
WE DON'T NEED EVERYTHING CLEANED ONCE EVERY MONTH GOING, YOU KNOW. CLEANING THE CARPETS DOING T THIS. I THINK COUNTY EMPLOYEES ARE PICKED. I NEVER THOUGHT OF THEM AS PICKED. AND THIS IS THE ONLY REASON YOU WOULD NEED THIS GREAT FREQUENCY OF CLEANING.
THESE BILLS ARE PILING UP LIKE CRAZY.
ESPECIALLY OVER A HALF A BILLION DOLLARS IN SET REALLY AND CLOSER TO THREE QUARTERS OF A BILLION IN DEBT, AND I THINK WE SHOULD TABLE THIS AND LOOK FOR A NEW SERVICE.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> JUDGE BECERRA: THANK YOU.
IN THE SPIRIT OF BEING GOOD FISCAL STEWARDS, IS THIS, WHAT YOU HAVE SEEN, IN LINE FOR FEES FOR THESE SERVICES FROM OTHER COMPETITORS? SO I WAS ASKING IN THE SPIRIT
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OF EXPRESSING A LITTLE INTEREST IN THIS, BEING GOOD FISCAL STEWARDS, ARE THESE FEES IN LINE WITH WHAT YOU HAVE SEEN IN OTHER COMPETITORS IN THIS FIELD FOR THIS TYPE OF WORK?>> YES, WE ACTUALLY WENT OUT FOR PROPOSAL -- LITTLE OVER A YEAR AGO AND WE NEGOTIATED THE CONTRACT WITH PBS.
THEY WERE THE LOWEST OF ALL OF THE SOLICITATIONS THAT WERE RECEIVED AND PRETTY MUCH A STANDARD.
>> JUDGE BECERRA: THESE ARE SUBMITTED PRICES THAT WERE
SUBMITTED THEN APPROXIMATELY? >> THE INCREASES WE HAVE SEEN HAVE BEEN BASED ON, I HAVE HEARD, ADDITIONAL SQUARE FOOTAGE BECAUSE WE ACTUALLY DIDN'T HAVE THE EXACT SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THE NEW PUBLIC SAFETY BUILDING AND THE FACILITY. AND AT THE TIME IT WASN'T SURE HOW OFTEN THE THOSE FACILITIES NEEDED TO BE CLEANED.
>> JUDGE BECERRA: COMMISSIONERS ANY QUESTIONS OR
COMMENTS? >> I HAVE ONE QUESTION.
LOOKING AT THE CONTRACT ITSELF ON THE BUILDINGS, SOME OF THE SQUARE FOOTAGES -- I KNOW SAYS "CLEANABLE SQUARE FOOTAGES." BUT SOME OF THEM -- THE PSB IS ACTUALLY LESS THAT THE PRECINCT BUILDINGS. SO MY QUESTION IS, SQUARE FOOTAGE IN THERE. THERE IS NO WAY IT WILL TAKE LESS MAN-HOURS TO PUT THE JAIL AS IN COMPARISON TO ONE OF THESE -- ONE OF OUR INDIVIDUALS BUILDINGS.
AS MUCH. >> THE PUBLIC SAFETY BUILDING HAS A VERY SMALL AMOUNT OF CLEANABLE SQUARE FOOTAGE BEAUSE THEY DON'T ALLOW THE JANITORIAL SERVICES IN THE OR THE OFFICERS STATIONS IN THE BACK AND THE FORENSIC AREA.
SO QUITE A BIT OF SPACE IN THE PUBLIC SAFETY BUILDING IS NOT ACCESSIBLE TO THE JANITOR RALE CONTRACTOR.
>>JUDGE BECERRA: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. DR. CARDENAS, PLEASE CALL THE
>> MARK JONES: YES. >> DEBBIE INGALSBE: YES.
[Items 15 - 17]
>> LON SHELL: YES. >> JUDGE BECERRA: YES.
PLEASE OPEN 15, 16 AND 17. >> 15, APPROVE UTILITY PERMITS.
16, APPROVE EXTENSION OF RFP 2016-P 06, BANK DEPOSITORY WITH SAGE CAPITAL BANKS FOR PERIOD NOT TO EXCEED 92 DAYS.
17, AUTHORIZE PAYMENT FOR T TIMEKEEPING SYSTEMS, INC. FOR $3,150 FOR PROFESSIONAL SERVICES RELATED TO THE JAIL GUARD 1 TIMEKEEPING SYSTEM AND AMEND THE BUDGET ACCORDINGLY.
>> DEBBIE INGALSBE: YES. >> LON SHELL: YES.
[33. Discussion and possible action to approve the selection of Halff Associates, Inc. to provide right-ofway acquisition services for the low water crossing projects in Precinct 4; and to authorize staff and counsel to negotiate a contract.]
SMITH SMITH YES. >> JUDGE BECERRA: YES.
>> JUDGE BECERRA: PLEASE OPEN 33.
>> DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO APPROVE THE SELECTION OF HALFF ASSOCIATES, INC. TO PROVIDE RIGHT-OF-WAY ACCESSORY SERVICES FOR THE LOW WATER CROSSING PROJECT IN PRECINCT 4 AND TO AUTHORIZE STAFF AND COUNSEL TO NEGOTIATE A CON
>> SECOND. JUDGE COMMISSIONER.
>> WALT SMITH: PART OF THE ROAD BOND AND THIS ONE WE ARE MOVING TOWARD CONSTRUCTION ON THE LOW WATER CONSTRUCTION.
TWO PROVIDED IN EACH PRECINCT. THIS ONE IS -- OR THE TWO THAT WE HAVE IN PRECINCT FOUR AT BEAR CREEK AND SYCAMORE CREEK.
AND WE ARE EXCITED TO HAVE THE PROJECT UNDER WAY AND H ALFF AND ASSOCIATES, YOU ARE FAMILIAR WITH THEM BECAUSE THEY HAVE DONE OUR EVALUATION FOR FLOOD MITIGATION FOR THE COUNTY AND I THOUGHT THEY WOULD BE A GOOD SELECTION FOR THE PROCESS SINCE IT IS A LOW WATER CROSSING.
>> JUDGE BECERRA: OKAY, DR. CARDENAS, PLEASE CALL THE ROLE.
>> LON SHELL: YES. >> DEBBIE INGALSBE: YES.
>> MARK JONES: YES. >> WALT SMITH: YES.
[38. Discussion and possible action to authorize the execution of a Development Agreement between Hays County and Driftwood Golf Club Development, Inc., related to the development of real property located in Precinct 4 of Hays County.]
>> JUDGE BECERRA: YES. ONE MORE TIME, COMMISSIONER,
PLEASE OPEN NUMBER 38. >> DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO AUTHORIZE THE EXECUTION OF A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT BETWEEN HAYS COUNTY AND DRIFTWOOD GOLF CLUB
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DEVELOPMENT, INC. RELATED TO THE DEVELOPMENT OF WE WILL PROPERTY LOCATED IN PRECINCT 4 OF HAYS COUNTY.>> JUDGE BECERRA: COMMISSIONERS.
SMITH MARCUS, WOULD YOU MIND SPEAKING.
>> GOOD MORNING, JUDGE, GOOD MORNING, COURT.
THIS ITEM FOR A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT FOR THE EXEMPTION OF TO PREPARE FOR OBTAIN COUNTY APPROVAL FOR A SUBDIVISION PLAT FOR THEIR CONDOMINIUM DEVELOPMENT THAT WILL NOT EXCEED 150 UNITS ON THE TRACT OF LAND.
WE WILL BE CLEAR THIS IS JUST THE REQUIREMENT.
THIS AGREEMENT WILL ONLY BE FOR THE EXEMPTION FOR PLATTING.
NOT HAVING ANY OTHER ACTION TO GRANT AN EXEMPTION FROM ANY OTHER COUNTY PROCESSES OR APPROVAL SUMP AS FLOOD HAZARDS AREA REVIEW, ADDRESSING, FOOD ESTABLISHMENT REVIEW, FIRE MARSHAL OR FIRE CODE REVIEW. AN THEN -- I THINK I ALREADY MENTIONED THAT ONE ADDRESS AND THE AGREEMENT IS TO PROVIDE THE RIGHT NOT TO PREPARE A SUBDIVISION PLAT TO BE APPROVED OR REVIEWED BY THE COUNTY. MR. KENNEDY.
>> I WILL NOTE THAT THE PREVIOUS ACTION OF THE COURT MOVED TO THE CITY OF DRIPPING SPRINGS, YOU MAY RECALL.
>> THAT WAY OF DEVELOPMENT, HAD A DA COURT AGREEMENT WITH THE CITY OF DRIPPING SPRINGS THAT OUTLINED FIRE ENFORCEMENT AND DEDICATED TO THE ESDS. WE HAD NEVER RATIFIED THAT AS A COURT. WHEN WE FIGURED THAT OUT WE WENT AND RATIFIED WITH THE CITY OF DRIPPING SPRINGS HAD PUT FOURTH AND WOULD PUT THAT -- PUT FORTH AND WILL BRING THAT
IN LINE WITH THOSE CHANGES. >> JUDGE BECERRA: PLEASE CALL
>> DEBBIE INGALSBE: YES. >> LON SHELL: YES.
[49. Discussion and possible action to authorize the County Judge to execute a Professional Services Agreement between Hays County and Halff Associates, Inc. to perform professional services related to Flood Mitigation Assistance.]
>> WALT SMITH: YES. >> JUDGE BECERRA: YES.
PLEASE OPEN 49. >> 49, DISCUSS AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO AUTHORIZE THE COUNTY JUDGE TO EXECUTE A PROFESSIONAL SERVICES AGREEMENT WITH HAYS COUNTY AND HALFF ASSOCIATES TO PERFORM PROFESSIONAL SERVICES RELATED TO FLOOD MITIGATION
>> SECOND. >> JUDGE, WE BUDGETED THIS FOR THIS FISCAL YEAR AND ROLLED THIS OVER FOR BUDGET THIS COMING FISCAL YEAR THAT IS OCTOBER 1.
THE PROJECT THAT STARTS IN WILLOW CREEK IN PRECINCT 3 AND GOES TO THE HEB DISTRIBUTION CENTER ACROSS WONDER WORLD INTO PRECINCT 1 PAST OUR GOVERNMENT CENTER PUBLIC SAFETY UNDERNEATH THE RAILROAD TRACKS AND INTO NEIGHBORHOODS.
WE DISCUSS THIS A FEW TIMES. INITIAL WORK BY HALFF AND ASSOCIATES AND I AM PROPOSING WE SELECT THIS DESIGN PHASE TO THE NEXT LEVEL AND PROVE UP SOME OF THE CONCEPTS WE HAVE DONE BEFORE AND TRY TO GET THIS PROJECT DESIGNED LOOKING FORWARD TO POTENTIAL INFRASTRUCTURE DOLLARS AND OTHER FEDERAL FUNDS WILL BE A GOOD PLACE FOR THE COUNTY TO BE READY TO GO TO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO MATCH OUR TAX DOLLARS, WE WILL TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THAT.
>> JUDGE BECERRA: ALL RIGHT. OKAY.
>> I WILL NOTE THAT THE COURT SELECTED TWO WEEKS AGO AND THIS IS THE CONTRACT THAT COMES BACK FOR THAT.
>> WALT SMITH: YES. >> LON SHELL: YES HE.
>> MARK JONES: YES. >> DEBBIE INGALSBE: YES.
>> JUDGE BECERRA: YES. AND I AM WATCHING THE CLOCK ON THE 11:00 REDISTRICTING. I THINK WE ARE GOOD ON TIME.
[Items 18 - 21]
SO WE WILL KEEP GOING. IF YOU WILL PLEASE OPEN AGENDAITEM 18-21. >> MS. CARDENAS: AMEND THE SHERIFF OFFICE OPERATING BUDGET FOR NEEDED VEHICLE REPAIRS WHICH INSURANCE PROCEEDS OF $ $5837 WERE RECEIVED AND AUTHORIZED PAYMENT TO LESTER'S SHOP FOR REPAIRS OF $5,273.26 WHICH NO PURCHASE ORDER WAS ISSUED AS REQUIRED PER HAYS PURCHASING POLICY 19, APPROVE THE APPOINTMENT OF MARIA CRISTINA FELL INTON TO SERVE ON EMERGENCY SERVICES DISTRICTS 1 TO REPLACE GEOFFREY TAHUAHUA IN THE TERM ENDING DECEMBER 31, 2021. AND NUMBER 20, APPROVE THE APPOINTMENTOR OF STACI DEMENT TO SERVE ON EMERGENCY SERVICES
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DISTRICTS 1 TO REPLACE DANIEL O'BRIEN FOR TERM ENDING DECEMBER 31, 2021. AND NUMBER 21, AUTHORIZE THE COUNTY JUDGE TO EXECUTE A RESOLUTION CERTIFYING THE COUNTY TO APPROVED A $13,000 GRANT FOR FY 2022 TO CONFINED COMMUNITY ACTION TO PROVIDE HOME-DELIVERED MEALS TOHOMEBOUND PERSONS. >> WALT SMITH: YES.
>> MARK JONES: YES. YES. >> DEBBIE INGALSBE: YES.
>> JUDGE BECERRA: YES. PLEASE OPEN NUMBER 22.
>> WALT SMITH: BEFORE WE MOVE ON, THANKS MARIA CRISTINA NELSON AND MISS DEMENT. WE HAD OPENINGS AND I
[22. Authorize the County Judge to use the remainder of his Community Program Expense of $1,250 for Texas State University Center for Diversity and Gender Studies.]
APPRECIATE THEIR WILLINGNESS TO STEP UP.>> MS. CARDENAS: 22, AUTHORIZE THE COUNTY JUDGE TO USE THE REMAINDER OF HIS COMMUNITY PROGRAM EXPENSE EVER $1,250 FOR THE TEXAS STATE UNIVERSITY CENTER FOR DIVERSITY AND GENDER
>> SECOND. >> JUDGE BECERRA: MOTION AND A SECOND AND WE HAVE ONE PERSON SIGN UP TO SPEAK, MR. DAN
LYONS. >> THANK YOU, JUDGE BECERRA OPINION I LOOKED IN THE BACKUP, THERE WAS NO EXPLANATION OF THIS. BUT THERE WAS A LETTER.
BUT ANYWAY, LET ME JUST START BY SAYING, I DON'T CARE WHAT A PERSON'S PREFERRED GENDER IS. THAT IS BETWEEN THEM THEIR CREATOR. HERE AT THE COMMISSIONERS CO COURT, WE ALSO HAD A CASTE SYSTEM BUT NEVER BASED ON GENDER IDENTIFICATION. AND LET ME SAY GENDER STUDIES IS NOT A FUNCTION OF THE HAYS COUNTY COMMISSIONERS COURT.
THAT IS PRETTY MUCH THE ENDS OF THE STORY ON THAT ONE.
LET ME READ THE LETTER THAT WAS IN THE BACKUP.
STATES SEPTEMBER 17, 2021. DEAR JUDGE BECERRA, I AM REQUESTING FUNDS IN THE AMOUNT OF $1250 TO OFFSET THE COST OF OUTREACH EVENTS HELD DURING HSI WEEK AT TEXAS STATE UNIVERSITY SEPTEMBER 13-17, WHEN IT. IF ARECORD -- 2021.
IF APPROVED THE CHECK MAY BE PAYABLE FOR THE CENTER OF DIVERSITY OF CENTER OF DIVERSITY AND KARP GENDER STUDIES SIGNED. PRONOUNCES SHE, HER, THEY, -- JOHN IF AYA SHE OR HER, BUT YOU CAN FILL ME IN ON THAT ONE.
PROFESSOR OF SOCIOLOGY. LIKE I SAID, IT'S -- AND HSI, I WOULD APPRECIATE YOU TELLING ME WHAT HSI WEEK IS.
BECAUSE I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT THAT IS.
CLEARLY THIS IS NOT A FUNCTION OF THE COUNTY COURT.
AS I PREVIOUSLY MENTIONED WE ARE OFFICIALLY OVER HALF A BILLION DOLLARS IN DEBT, MORE LIKE THREE QUARTERS OF A BILLION IF THE DEBT IS HELD TO MATURITY WHICH IT WILL BE.
HOW DO I PUT IT IN COLLOQUIAL TERMS. THIS IS RIDICULOUS. $1250 FOR KARP GENDER STUDIES? I DON'T WANT MY MONEY GOING TOWARD THAT.
I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT GENDER STUDIES IS.
I DON'T CARE WHAT GENDER STUDIES IS.
WE SHOULD NOT BE FORCED -- AS THE PEOPLE OF HAYS COUNTY SHOULD NOT BE FORCED TO PAY FOR GENDER STUDIES.
I DON'T KNOW IF IT EVEN NEEDS TO BE OFFERED AT TEXAS KARP STATE. I WILL TAKE IT UP FOR THEM.
YOU THREE REPUBLICANS, IF YOU VOTE FOR THIS, YOU WILL WEAR IT FROM NOW ON. WHAT I MEAN BY THAT, THIS VOTE IS GOING TO FOLLOW Y'ALL BECAUSE I WILL INFORM THE REPUBLICANS THAT YOU VOTED FOR THIS.
SO BE ADVISE $OF THAT. YOU CAN DO WHAT YOU WANT.
I DON'T TELL YOU WHAT TO DO. BUT I DID SAY I AM COMPLETELY, WHOLEHEARTEDLY AGAINST THIS SQUANDERING OF COUNTY MONEY.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> JUDGE BECERRA: THANK YOU MR. DAN LYON. A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS WOVEN IN YOUR STATEMENT. AJA.
THAT IS SPANISH FOR HER. THAT IS THE NAME OF A DEPARTMENT, IT IS TO BE USED FOR HSI WHICH IS YOUR OTHER QUESTION, TEXAS STATE HAS BEEN DECLARED A HISPANIC SERVING INSTITUTION. SO HISPANICS INSTITUTION WEEK A WAY FOR TEXAS STATE KARP UNIVERSITY AS A WAY TO SUPPORT
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AND ENCOURAGE FIRST GENERATION LATINOS TO BE ON CAMPUS TO NOT ONLY SAY ON CAMPUS AND GRADUATE AND TO HELP ALL INCOMING FRESHMEN AND BEYOND TO CONTINUE TO SUPPORT AND UNDERSTAND MORE OF WHAT COMMUNITY IS AROUND HERE, AND TO CREATE A STRONGER SENSE OF COMMUNITY FOR THE PURPOSE OF RELATIONSHIP BUILDING WITHIN THE COMMUNITY SO THAT PEOPLE AREN'T OUTCASTS AS THEY COME IN HERE TO OUR COMMUNITY.WE ARE A -- I HAVE SEEN IT HISTORICALLY.
I AM PRIVILEGED TO HAVE RAISE MY FAMILY HERE.
WE HAVE HISTORICALLY BEEN ANSWER COMPASSING, WELCOMING AND EMBRACING COMMUNITY FOR AS A WHOLE.
THE BROADER THE STATEMENT, THE NARROWER THE MIND.
A STRONG DESIRE FOR ME TO HELP ALL PEOPLE THAT ENTER OUR COMMUNITY, SPECIFICALLY IN THIS SPACE, HISPANIC SERVING INSTITUTION WEEK CELEBRATION TO HELP THEM FEEL THE SUPPORT OF THE COMMUNITY AND THAT IS WHAT THIS EFFORT IS ABOUT.
>> WALT SMITH: JUDGE, I JUST HAVE ONE QUESTION.
SAYS TO OFFSET THE COST OF OUTREACH EVENT.
DOESN'T SAY WHAT WE ARE SPENDSING IT ON.
WE ARE DOING ONE MORE TODAY AND COMMISSIONER INGALSBE, THE BACKGROUND WORK DOCUMENTATION IS VERY SPECIFIC ON THE PROJECT AND THAT SORT OF THING. AND WE TRY TO DO IT IN THE P PAST. THE OTHER THING FOR MR. LYONS' POINT, IT SAYS FOR EXPENSES. I HAVE SOME CONCERN AND PUT
THAT FORTH. >> JUDGE BECERRA: VERY GOOD.
THE HISPANIC WEEK CELEBRATION WEEK.
A LIST OF THINGS AND WE ARE JUST HELPING THE OVERALL PROGRAM. DR. CARDENAS, PLEASE CALL THE
ROLL. >> DEBBIE INGALSBE: YES.
>> LON SHELL: YES. >> WALT SMITH: NO.
>> MARK JONES: NO. >> JUDGE BECERRA: YES.
[Items 23 - 26]
THANK YOU. WILL YOU PLEASE OPEN AGENDAITEM NUMBER 23-26. >> MS. CARDENAS: 23, APPROVE EXTENSION OF IFB 2017-B 02 COUNTYWIDE DUMPSTERS WITH TEXAS DISPOSAL SYSTEMS FOR AN ADDITIONAL PERIOD NOT TO EXCEED 61 DAYS. 24, AMEND THE CONSTABLE PRECINCT 5 OPERATING BUDGET FOR VEHICLE REPAIRS AND NEW TIRES NEEDED FOR THE LAW ENFORCEMENT FLEET.
25, APPROVE SPECIFICATION FOR RFP 2021-P 07 PROGRAM MANAGEMENT AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN ACT OR ARPA FUNDS AND AUTHORIZE PURCHASING TO SOLICIT FOR PROPOSAL AND ADVERTISE.
26, APPROVE SPECIFICATIONS FOR RFP 2021-P 04 MEDICAL KARP SERVICES JAIL AND JEW NILE DETENTION CENTER AND AUTHORIZE PURCHASING TO SOLICIT FOR PROPOSAL AND ADVERTISED.
>> JUDGE BECERRA: WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
ANY COMMENTS? >> WALT SMITH: I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR MY COLLEAGUES. IF YOU REACHED OUT TO THE AUDITOR'S OFFICE ON ITEM NUMBER 25.
I THINK THE FINAL RF P, RATHER, IS WELL WRITTEN AND LOOK FORWARD TO GETTING GOOD APPLICANTS IN THERE TO HELP US WITH THE DISTRIBUTION PWUTION OF THE FUND.
>> JUDGE BECERRA: THE VIEWING PUBLIC THAT DOESN'T HAVE ACCESS TO OUR BACKUP. IF YOU WANT TO HIGHLIGHT THE
REFERENCE POINTS. >> WALT SMITH: SURE.
LET ME PULL IT UP REAL QUICK. ONE OF THE THINGS IMPORTANT TO ME WHEN WE DRAFT THE RFQ. NUMBER ONE THANK YOU TO THE AUDITING STAFF BECAUSE NOT AN EASY ONE TO LOOK AT.
WHEN THE AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN CAME OUT AND THE FUNDING WAS ALLOCATED AND ONE OF THE CONCERNS I HAD -- AND TALK ABOUT -- WE DON'T WANT TO GET A BILL FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT IN A YEAR OR TWO WHEREBY WE SPENT THESE FUNDS IN A WAY THAT DO NOT CONSTITUTE OR IS THAT ALLOWING UNDER THE B BILL. AND SO WE WANTED TO DO OUTREACH SPECIFICALLY TO -- TO SOMEONE OR AN RFQ TO GROUPS THAT CAN HELP MANAGE THAT AND HOPEFULLY TAKE SOME OF THAT RESPONSIBILITIES OFF OF OUR HANDS AND HELP US VERIFY WITH TREASURY THAT WAS ACCEPTABLE. THE OTHER THING I WANT TO ENSURE THERE WAS ADEQUATE OUTREACH WITHIN THE COMMUNITY TO UNDERSTAND WHAT WE WERE DOING AND TO RECEIVE ACTIONS AND THEN TRY TO GET ADDITIONAL INFORMATION FOR ENTITIES THAT WERE OUT THERE THAT MAY WANT TO QUALIFY FOR FUNDING FROM THE COUNTY FOR THE EFFORTS. IN THE RFP ITSELF, THERE IS VERY STRONG LANGUAGE IN THERE, WHEREBY WHOEVER IS AWARDED THIS CONTRACT WILL WORK DIRECTLY TO THE MEMBERS OF THE COURT TO TRY TO DO OUTREACH WITHIN THE COMMUNITY AND SOLICIT THOSE AND DO INDEPENDENT EVALUATION OF THOSE INDIVIDUAL APPLICANTS TO
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SEE IF THEY CAN QUALIFY THROUGH ONE OF THE PARTS OF THE BILL ITSELF OR THE FUNDING COMING DOWN AND IF THEY DON'T, HOP HOPEFULLY WORK WITH MEMBERS OF THE COURT TO SEE WHERE SOME OF THOSE PROJECTS OR FUNDING OPPORTUNITIES MAY FALL IN A DIFFERENT CATEGORY THAT THOSE INDIVIDUAL APPLICANTS MAY NOT BE THINKING OF AND HELP US TRY TO DIRECT SOME OF THOSE FUNDS.>> JUDGE BECERRA: OKAY. THAT WILL WORK.
>> JUDGE, I WILL MAKE A COMMENT I SUPPORT THE RFP, IT DOESN'T MEAN I WILL SUPPORT US HIRING A CONTRACTOR DO THIS.
I THINK THAT IS STILL A QUESTION WE HAVE TO DETERMINE.
>> JUDGE BECERRA: I AGREE, COMMISSIONER, AND I PRAISE THE STATEMENT. AND I ECHO THE SENTIMENT.
ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU SAID THAT IT IS GOING TO BE THAT PERCENTAGE. I WILL BE WILLING TO DO IT MYSELF. I COULDN'T AGREE WITH YOU MORE, COMMISSIONER. THIS IS NO DONE DEAL BY ANY STRETCH OF THE IMAGINATION AND COMMISSIONER CHERYL, THANK YOU
FOR POINTING THAT OUT. >> LON SHELL: I LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING THE RESPONSES AND IDEAS, BUT VALUABLE BUT STILL
HOLDING OUT UNTIL WE SEE. >> JUDGE BECERRA: EXACTLY RIGHT. DR. CARDENAS, PLEASE CALL THE
>> DEBBIE INGALSBE: YES. >> MARK JONES: YES.
>> WALT SMITH: YES. >> JUDGE BECERRA: YES.
WILL YOU PLEASE -- LET ME ASK YOU THIS.
I AM GAUGING A TEN-MINUTE RECESS AT 10:50.
AND THEN STEP INTO OUR 11:00. BUT ARE THERE ANY PEOPLE IN THE AUDIENCE HERE SPECIFICALLY FOR AGENDA ITEM THAT I CAN CALL IN BETWEEN SO I CAN KEEP YOU MOVING THROUGH YOUR DAY, RESPECT YOUR TIME. WHAT NUMBER?
>> 36 AND 37. >> JUDGE BECERRA: 36 AND 37.
[Items 36 & 37]
PLEASE OPEN AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 36.>> MS. CARDENAS: 36, PLN PLN-1774-PC, CALL FOR PUBLIC HEARING ON OCTOBER 5, 2021 TO DISCUSS FINAL PLAT APPROVAL OF THE REPLAT OF LOT 4, LOS RANCHO S SUBDIVISION.
37, PLN-1735-NP, DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO APPROVE THE FINAL PLAT OF THE DOGROCK ESTATES SUBDIVISION.
>> JUDGE BECERRA: WE OPENED ITEM 36 AND 37.
COMMISSIONER -- TAKE COMMISSIONER SMITH.
YOUR AGENDA ITEM IS VERY STRAIGHTGOOD.
COMMISSIONER SHELL, ANYTHING TO ADD TO 37.
>> I BELIEVE COLBY IS HERE. >> YES, SIR.
GOOD MORNING JUDGE BECERRA AND COMMISSIONERS.
COLBY MAHACHEK, THE SENIOR PLAN REMEMBER, THE DOGROCK ESTATES SUBDIVISION LOCATED OFF OF STEPPING-STONE CROSSING IN PRECINCT 4. I THINK I HAD THAT RIGHT.
WATER SERVICE THROUGH RAIN WATER KLERNGS.
WASTEWATER TREATMENT THROUGH INDIVIDUAL ON-SITE SEWAGE FACILITIES. AND NO VARIANCES REQUESTED AND THIS PROJECT HAS IF YOU WILL STAFF RECOMMENDATION.
>> JUDGE BECERRA: BECAUSE THIS IS A COURT OF RECORD, PRECINCT
I WROTE THAT DOWN INACCURATELY. >> JUDGE BECERRA: IF NO OTHER
COMMENTS, CALL THE ROLL. >> WALT SMITH: YES.
>> DEBBIE INGALSBE: YES. >> MARK JONES: YES..
>> LON SHELL: YES. >> JUDGE BECERRA: YES.
OKAY FROM LEFT TOOR TO RIGHT, WHAT AGENDA ITEM.
[35. PLN-1757-PC; Discussion and possible action to approve the final plat of the Replat of Lot 4, Los Ranchos Subdivision; hold a public hearing.]
>> 35. >> JUDGE BECERRA: PLEASE OPEN
35. >> MS. CARDENAS: 35, PLN PLN-1757-PC, DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO APPROVE THE FINAL PLAT OF THE REPLAT OF LOT 4, LOS RANCHOS DUB VISION HOLD
A PUBLIC HEARING. >> MOTION IS.
>> SECOND. >> JUDGE BECERRA: SAYS HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING. SO THE ASK TO HOLD A PUBLIC
HEARING RIGHT NOW? >> YES, JUDGE.
>> JUDGE BECERRA: ALL RIGHT, WELL THEN -- I HOPE A PUBLIC HEARING. ANYONE TO SPEAK BEFORE OR AGAINST THE AGENDA ITEM. PLEASE APPROACH THE PODIUM.
I SEE NO MOVEMENT -- NO, THERE IS ONE.
PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME. >> MY NAME IS KIMBERLIN WALKER.
THE PROPERTY WAS OWNED MY DAD AND WE WANT TO SUBDIVIDED IT.
>> JUDGE BECERRA: THIS IS A GOOD TIME.
THE ECONOMY IS BOOMING. THANK YOU SO MUCH.
>> THANK YOU. >> JUDGE BECERRA: REALLY APPRECIATE IT. NO OTHER SPEAKERS ON THIS AGENDA ITEM, I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING
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COMMISSIONER SMITH. >> WALT SMITH: THANK YOU, JUDGE. THIS IS A REPLAT.
I WILL LET COLBY SPEAK ON IT. BUT IT FALLS WITHIN OUR SUBDIVISION PLATTING RECLAMATIONS AND NO VARIANCES.
AND, YES, LOS RANCHOS WILL HAVE THREE LOTS.
WATER SERVICE WILL BE ACHIEVED THROUGH PRIVATE WELLS AND WASTEWATER TREATMENT THROUGH INDIVIDUAL ON-SITE SEWAGE FACILITIES. AS COMMISSIONER COMMISSION MENTIONED NO VARIANCES REQUESTED AND IF YOU WILL STAFF
RECOMMENDATION. >> JUDGE BECERRA: WE WILL S SAID. DR. CARDENAS, PLEASE CALL THE
>> DEBBIE INGALSBE: YES. >> LON SHELL: YES.
>> WALT SMITH: YES. >> JUDGE BECERRA: YES.
AND THANK YOU. AND ANYONE ELSE IN THIS -- FOR AN AGENDA ITEM THAT IS -- TO OPEN.
DID YOU HAVE AN AGENDA ITEM, SIR?
YOU ARE RAISING YOUR HAND. >> YES.
45 AND 46. >> JUDGE BECERRA: ANYONE ELSE
[45. Discussion and possible action to approve the naming of a private driveway in Precinct 4, Whispering Oaks Lane.]
ON OTHER AGENDA ITEMS BEFORE WE GO TO THOSE?OKAY, OPEN PLEASE NUMBER 45. >> NUMBER 45, DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO APPROVE THE NAMING OF A PRIVATE DRIVEWAY IN PRECINCT 4 WHISPERING OAKS L LANE.
>> JUDGE BECERRA: MR. DAN LYON, START THE TIMER FOR THREE
MINUTES. >> JUDGE BECERRA, TELL YOU THE TRUTH I DON'T CARE WHAT THEY NAME THEIR PRIVATE DRIVE.
NECK NAME IS YELLOW BRICK ROAD FOR ALL I CARE.
MY ONLY CONCERN IS DOES THIS INVOLVE ANY EXPENSE TO THE COUNTY FOR, SAY, PUTTING UP SIGNS WITH WHISPERING OAKS LANE ON IT. AND IF SO, THE COUNTY HAS NO BUSINESS PAYING FOR A SIGN FOR A PRIVATE DRIVE.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> WALT SMITH: MR. BORCHERING, DOES THE COUNTY HAVE A PART IN THAT?
>> IF IT IS PART OF THE 911 ADDRESSING, WE WILL PROVIDE ONE SIGN FOR THE FIRST TIME A RED SIGN.
IF THERE IS NOT AN ADDRESS -- IF IT IS NOT USED IN THE 911 SYSTEM, WE WILL NOT PROVIDE A SIGN.
>> WALT SMITH: MR. PACHECO R BUT I THINK WE ARE REQUIRED TO
DO THAT? >> YES, COMMISSIONER.
THE REASON WHY OUR GIS DEPARTMENT AND WILL REVIEW THE NAMING REQUEST FOR THE PUBLIC, SAFETY AND ASPECT SO NO DUPLICATE OR HARD TO PRONOUNCE NAMES IN CASE SOMEONE IS CALLED OUT THERE FOR A 911, THERE IS A VALID STREET NAME FOR THE
ADDRESS. >> JUDGE BECERRA: MAKES PERFECT SENSE. OR IN THE SYSTEM.
THANK YOU, JERRY. >> AN UNFUNDED MANDATE.
>> JUDGE BECERRA: THE LIST OF UNFUNDED MANDATE.
PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. >> DEBBIE INGALSBE: YES.
>> MARK JONES: YES. >> LON SHELL: YES.
[Items 27 - 30]
>> WALT SMITH: YES. >> JUDGE BECERRA: YES.
PLEASE OPEN 27, 28, 29 AND 30. I HAVE A LIST.
I GOT YOUR LIST TOO. 27, 28 AND 29.
>> AND 30. >> DID MR. LYON WANT TO SPEAK
ON 46 AS WELL IN? >> MS. CARDENAS: 27-30 FIRST.
>> 27, DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO CONSIDER THE ACCEPTANCE OF ROAD CONSTRUCTION AND DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENTS AND ACCEPT THE TWO-YEAR MAINTENANCE BOND NUMBER 166107 N IN THE AMOUNT OF $154,337.85 FOR THE TRAILS AT WINDY HILL SUBDIVISION PHASE 4 AND PHASE 5.
28, DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO ACCEPT THE MAINTENANCE BOND RIDER EXTENSION NUMBER PB 0301 030168000417 M IN THE AMOUNT OF THE AMOUNT OF $9 0,3777 BE 95, UNTIL FEBRUARY 28, 2022 FOR SUN FIELD STUB DIVISION PHASE 2, SECTION 12. NUMBER 29, HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING WITH POSSIBLE ACTION TO ESTABLISH A FOUR-WAY START AT THE INTERSECTION OF CAP GREEN PASTURES DRIVE AND SKYVIEW TERRACE IN GREEN PASTURES. AND NUMBERING NUMBER 30,
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DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION FOR BOND CA 2721467 IN THE AMOUNT OF $57,872.74 AND ACCEPTANCE OF THE ROADS IN THE COUNTY ROAD MAINTENANCE SYSTEM FOR WINNIE HILL.>> JUDGE BECERRA: ADD 31. >> MS. CARDENAS: DISCUSSION AND THE POSSIBLE ACTION TO THE CONSIDER THE RELEASE OF THE MAINTENANCE BOND SU 1146030 IN THE AMOUNT OF $315,510.25 AND THE ACCEPTANCE OF THE ROADS IN THE COUNTY ROAD MAINTENANCE SYSTEM FOR REUNION RANCH SUBDIVISION, PHASE 2, SECTION
PUBLIC MEETING? >> JUDGE BECERRA: MY FAULT.
GIVE ME A MOTION AND A SECOND. >> SO MOVED.
>> SECOND. >> JUDGE BECERRA: A MOTION AND A SECOND. AND I WILL ALSO -- WHILE WE ARE IN THIS STAGE, IF MR. KENNEDY IS OKAY WITH IT.
I WILL OPEN A PUBLIC HEARING FOR 29.
IS THAT FINE? AGENDA ITEM 29, THE POCKET OF ITEMS WE JUST OPENED IS A PUBLIC HEARING. ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 29, PLEASE APPROACH THE PODIUM.
SEEING NO MOVEMENT, I CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
>> STAFF RECOMMENDATION ON ALL THESE PROJECTS.
>> JUDGE BECERRA: CALL THE ROLL.
>> DEBBIE INGALSBE: YES. >> WALT SMITH: YES.
>> LON SHELL: YES. >> MARK JONES: YES.
>> JUDGE BECERRA: YES. I AM REALLY GOING TO PUSH FOR JERRY'S EXIT BEFORE THE NEXT MEETING SO I AM GOING TO RUSH THIS EFFECTIVE -- AS EFFECTIVE AS POSSIBLE.
[Items 32, 34, 42 & 50]
>> JUDGE BECERRA: WELL, -- >> MS. CARDENAS: 34 --
>> JUDGE BECERRA: 34, 42 AND 50.
>> MS. CARDENAS: OKAY. >> JUDGE BECERRA: LET'S DO THIS. HERE WE GO.
LET ME CLEAN IT UP AND I AM BOUNCE BECAUSE SHORT OM TIME.
NO REASON TO RUSH ANYTHING AND GOOD AND APPRECIATE EVERYONE'S TIME. 32, 34, 42 AND 50.
>> MS. CARDENAS: 32, DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO AUTHORIZE THE COUNTY JUDGE TO EXECUTE AMENDMENT NUMBER 1 TO THE ADVANCE FUNDING AGREEMENT FOR SURFACE TRANSPORTATION BLOCK GRANT PROGRAM BETWEEN HAYS COUNTY AND THE TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF TRANSMIT THE FOR THE FM 621 CORRIDOR SAFETY IMPROVEMENTS PROJECT.
34, DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO APPROVE THE SELECTION OF THE COBB FENDLE Y & ASSOCIATES TO PROVIDE UTILITY COORDINATION SERVICES FOR LOW WATER CROSSING PROJECTS IN PRECINCT 4 AND TO AUTHORIZE STAFF AND COUNSEL TO NEGOTIATE A CONTRACT. 42 DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO AWARD THE CONTRACT FOR IFB 2021-B 10 F ISCHER STORE ROAD TO COX COMMERCIAL CONSTRUCTION.
54, DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE TONKS TO SET COMP TIME FOR
>> SECOND. >> JUDGE BECERRA: DR.
CARDENAS, THANK YOU FOR BOUNCING AROUND THE AGENDA
>> WALT SMITH: YES. >> DEBBIE INGALSBE: YES.
>> JUDGE BECERRA: YES. >> POINT OUT, JUDGE, ON 42 COX COMMERCIAL WAS ALSO THE LID BID ON IN PROJECT.
SO WE ARE REQUIRED TO COLLECT THE LOW BID ON THIS PROJECT.
OUR AUDITOR'S OFFICE CHECKS ALL OF THE REFERENCES OF INDIVIDUALS AND FOLLOWING A STATE PROCESS.
THESE ARE STATE PROJECTS ON STATE ROADS.
COX COMMERCIAL HAS BEEN AWARDED THE FISCHER STORE PROJECT
BECAUSE THEY ARE THE LOW BID. >> JUDGE BECERRA: THERE YOU GO. COMMISSIONERS, WE WILL HAVE A CLARIFICATION. WE WILL HAVE A SHORT RECESS AND BACK SHARPLY ON 11:00 TO GO INTO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 52.
READY? TOLD YOU HE WOULD LOOK BACK AT
[52. 11:00 a.m. - Presentation by Allison, Bass, Magee, LLP regarding the initial assessment of Hays County for Purposes of Redistricting Evaluation; and discussion and possible action to adopt Findings of Fact Regarding Political Boundaries of Hays County, Texas and an Order for Redistricting of Political Boundaries.]
11:00.DR. CARDENAS, OPEN AGENDA ITEM 52.
>> 52, PRESENTATION BY ALLISON, BASS, MAGEE, LLP REGARDING THE INITIAL ASSESSMENT OF HAYS COUNTY FOR BURNS OF REDISTRICTING EVALUATION AND DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION
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TO ADOPT FINDINGS OF FACT REGARDING POLITICAL BOUNDARIES OF HAYS COUNTY, TEXAS AND ORDER FOR REDISTRICTING OF POLITICALBOUNDARIES. >> DEBBIE INGALSBE: SO MOVED.
>> SECOND. >> JUDGE BECERRA: MOTION AND A SECOND AND WE HAVE INDIVIDUALS SIGNED UP TO SPEAK.
FIRST MYSTERY IS A RIBETT. HOPE I SAID THE LAST ONE RIGHT.
>> THANK YOU, GOOD MORNING. I AM THE PRESIDENT OF THE LEAGUE OF WOMEN VOTERS, A 17-YEAR RESIDENT OF DRIPPING SPRINGS AND THE OWNER OF A SMALL BUSINESS.
I AM AN IMMIGRANT FROM MEXICO BY BLOOD AND AMERICANA BY POLITICAL BOUNDARIES. IT THE PRIVILEGE OF BEING PART OF TWO LEADERSHIP PROGRAMS, LEADERSHIP DRIPPING SPRINGS CLASS 3 AND LEADERSHIP ESSENTIAL CLASS 42 37.
THE CLASSES ENTERED INTO LOSBARRIOS.
COMMUNITIES OF A BUILT ENVIRONMENT AND NEVER BEFORE HAVE I SEEN A BARRO FROM THE BUILT ENVIRONMENT LENS.
THE FIRST TIME LOOKING AT THE ENVIRONMENTAL DURABILITY, EFFICIENCY AND QUALITY OF PHYSICAL SPACES, WHERE I LIVED, WENT TO SCHOOL AND EXPERIENCED MY NEW COUNTRY AS AN EI EIGHT-YEAR-OLD IMMIGRANT GIRL. TO ADD TO THIS, THE CONCEPT OF SUSTAINABILITY COMES FROM THE PRIORITIZATION OF COMMUNITY MEMBERS' VOICES. THOSE WHO LIVED AND HAD THE INSIGHT AND EXPERIENCE OF LO S B ARROS AND THE RIGHT TO ELECT A REPRESENTATIVE. A BUILT ENVIRONMENTAL MAPPING PROVIDING THE OPPORTUNITY TO VENTURE AN EXPERIENCE DIVERSE BARRIOS, SPECIFICALLY OF THE COMMUNITIES OF UNIQUE LIFE L LENS. FOR SOME, SUCH AS MYSELF, A NOSTALGIC GOAL THROUGH A FAVORABLE MEMORY LANE OF ALL OF OUR SENSES RELIVING THE COLORS, SOUNDS, SENSATIONS AND MY FAVORITE, LOS SABOS OF OUR HOMES.
FOR OTHERS, NEIGHBORHOODS ARE AT THE VERY LEAST UNFAMILIAR AND PERHAPS A LESS THAN DESIRABLE NEIGHBORHOOD IN WHICH TO CALL HOME. I INVITE YOU TO WALK WITH ME INTO MY BLACK AND BROWN COMMUNITY TO EXPERIENCE IT.
A MONUMENT SIGN OR GATE CODE IS NOT NEEDED TO KNOW THAT I HAVE ARRIVED AT MI BARRIO. I FEEL IT.
AND I SAVOR IT. STEPPING INTO MY BARRIO, BRIGHT AND SHADES OF SUNSHINE YELLOW, AQUA GREEN, PINK AND SKY BLUE COLORS THAT WILL NOT BE ON ANY HOMEOWNER ASSOCIATION APPROVED LIST. THE ENTICING AROMAS OF HOMEMADE TORTILLAS AND BUBBLING POT OF FRIJOLES, A SNEEZE FOLLOWED BY A COUGH, ABUELA WITH THE SPICY SALSA.
THESE AHOME AS MAKE MY MOUTH MAKING ME KNOW I AM ALONE AND THE BASE FROM BLOCKS AWAY KNOWING IT IS LOW RIDER.
THESE CUSTOMIZED CARS ALONE ARE MULTISENSORY WITH LOWER BODIES FITTED WITH HYDRAULIC SYSTEMS. THEY ARE A SIGHT AND SOUND.
IT MAY NOT BE A COMMUNITY IN WHICH WOULD SETTLE DOWN TO MAKE A HOME; HOWEVER, AS A COMMUNITY LEADER, I BELIEVE THERE IS A LEADER FROM WITHIN ABLE TO MAKE DECISIONS AND A $VO KATE THE SUSTAINABILITY OF SUCH A BUILT ENVIRONMENT, ENVIRONMENT THAT WERE ONES HAPHAZARDLY DELIBERATELY DRAWN BY OUTSIDE INSTITUTIONS AND THEIR LEADERS; HOWEVER, COMPLETED AND SUSTAINED BY TRADITIONALLY UNHEARD VOICES.
THOSE OF LOCAL KNOWLEDGE AND LIVED EXPERIENCE IN CREATING LOS BARRIOS OF OUR CHILDHOOD. I SHARE THIS WITH YOU IN FAIR AND OPENING DISTRICTING MEANS. IT MEANS ELECTING LEADERS FROM WITHIN LOS BARRIOS BY THE VOTING RIGHTS TRACT AND
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TRANSPARENCY FOR GEOGRAPHIC INTEGRITY, RESPECTING COMMUNITIES OF INTEREST NOT DIRMD BY POLITICAL PARTIES, INCUMBENTS AND CANDIDATES AND A ASK FOR PUBLIC INPUT BY COMMUNITY OF INTEREST LEADERS AND MEMBERS ON THESE PRELIMINARY MAPS. THE INCLUSION OF RESIDENTS VIA DISTRICTING WEB PAGE I WHICH MEETING DATES, VIDEO, MAPPING TOOLS, DATA, LIVESTREAMED ARE POSTED, PROMOTE AND REVIEWED AND BY THE DISCLOSURE OF WHO DREW THE MAP.SITE YOUR SOURCES WHAT DATA THE COUNTY IS USING, LO OS BARRIOS, OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, AND IN A COLLECTIVE FIGHT TO SUSTAIN OUR COMMUNITIES AND ADVOCATE FOR REPUTABLE REPRESENTATION AS WE WITNESSED HERE EARLIER TODAY. GRACIAS.
>> JUDGE BECERRA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
NEXT UP, DR. LINDA CALVERT. >> WALT SMITH: THANK YOU -- I WAS IN CLASS ONE OF DRIPPING SPRINGS AND ALWAYS GOOD TO SEE ONE OF MY STUDENTS UP HERE INVOLVED IN THE COMMUNITY.
SO THANK YOU. >> GOOD MORNING, JUDGE BECERRA AND COMMISSIONERS, THE HAYS LEAGUE OF WOMEN VOTERS.
I AM LINDA CALVERT THE REDISTRICTING SHARE OF THE LEAGUE OF WOMEN VOTERS FOR HAYS COUNTY.
THE HAYS LEAGUE OF WOMEN VOTERS INVITED YOU IN APRIL AND MAY AND A NONPARTISAN ADVISORY COMMISSION TO CONDUCT PUBLIC HEARINGS AND RECOMMEND PRECINCT LINES FOR COUNTY.
YOU CHOSE A PARTISAN COMMISSION.
OUR CONCERN IS THAT THE REDISTRICTING ADVISORY COMMISSION HAS NEVER NEVER MET. REDISTRICTING IN AN OPEN AND FAIR MANNER TAKES TIME, WORK AND COMMITMENT.
A LOT OF COMMITMENT. WE DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE MET WITH THE CO-CHAIRS TO GIVE THEM GUIDANCE AND ACCESS TO RESOURCES. IT TAKES RESOURCES.
WE DON'T KNOW WHAT COMMUNICATIONS YOU HAD WITH YOUR LAW FIRM. WE DO KNOW THAT TIME IS SHORT WITH MAKES A THOUGHT PROCESS WITH ADEQUATE PUBLIC INPUT AND TRANSPARENCY MORE DIFFICULT. AND HAVING HAD THE EXPERIENCE OF BEING ON ONE OF THESE COMMISSIONS, I KNOW THAT PEOPLE DON'T ALWAYS SHOW UP. IN FACT, A FAIR NUMBER OF PEOPLE CHOOSE NOT TO SHOW UP. SO IMPERATIVE WITH A SHORT TIMELINE, A SMALL GROUP, THAT YOU HAVE SOME KIND OF GUIDELINES THAT BASICALLY SAYS THAT PEOPLE HAVE TO BE THERE AND THEY CAN'T SHOW UP AT THE LAST MEETING AND VOTE ON THE MAPS. IT IS JUST NOT FAIR.
THE HAYS LEAGUE OF WOMEN VOTERS HELD SIX PUBLIC DISTRICTING EVENTS. FOUR OF WHICH WERE MAPPING OF COMMUNITIES OF INTEREST. A FIFTH COMMUNITY OF INTEREST MAPPING WILL BE HELD ON THURSDAY.
ALL EVENTS HAVE BEEN PUBLICIZED THROUGH VARIOUS CHANNELS AND TWO WERE ADVERTISED IN THE SAN MARCOS RECORD AND THE CORRIDOR NEWS. YOU HEARD IT THIS MORNING.
I DON'T EVEN HAVE TO EXPLAIN IT.
COMMUNITIES WITH COMMON, SOCIAL AND ECONOMIC INTEREST, AND THE TRADITIONAL PRINCIPLES OF REDISTRICTING STATE THAT DISTRICTS SHOULD NOT ONLY BE COMPACT BUT IDENTIFY COMMUNITIES OF INTEREST WHENEVER POSSIBLE.
DURING THE 2010 REDISTRICTING, KYLE WAS SPREAD AMONG THREE COMMISSIONERS. TEXAS STATE AND SURROUNDING AREAS OF SAN MARCOS WERE SPLIT AMONG THREE COMMISSIONERS.
THREE PRECINCT SPLITTING AN AREA MEANS THAT THE COMMUNITIES HAVE LITTLE CHANCE TO REPRESENT AN INDIVIDUAL WHO SPEAKS SPECIFICALLY FOR OUR COMMUNITY. IN TEXAS WHICH IS THE ONLY STATE TO GAIN TWO FEDERAL REPRESENTATIVES 95% OF THE POPULATION GROWTH WERE PEOPLE OF COLOR, PRIMARILY HISPANICS.
GROWTH IN HAYS COUNTY WAS AMONG THE FASTEST IN THE NATION AND FOLLOWED THE SAME PATTERN SPECIFICALLY ALONG I-35 THE LEAGUE'S MAPPING ALONG THE I-25 CORRIDOR IN SAN MARCOS AND KYLE WHERE THE BULK OF THE POPULATION HAS BEEN AND
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PRIMARILY AMONG HISPANICS. THE LEAGUE FOCUSED ON THESE POPULATIONS BECAUSE OF THE GROWTH AND THESE AREAS WERE BADLY GERRYMANDERED IN THE PREVIOUS REDISTRICTING.THE KARP LEAGUE IS HERE TO SUPPORT THE COUNTY'S EFFORTS, BUT WE DEMAND TRANSPARENCY AND ACCOUNTABILITY FROM OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS. WE WILL BE FOLLOWING THESE PROCEEDINGS CLOSELY AND MAKING SURE THAT ALL HAYS COUNTY VOTERS AND RESIDENTS HAVE A VOICE.
THANK YOU SO MUCH. >> JUDGE BECERRA: THANK YOU DR. LINDA CALVERT. NEXT UP DR. MARK DRAHAN.
>> GOOD MORNING. GOOD MORNING, JUDGE BECERRA.
GOOD MORNING, COMMISSIONERS. MY NAME IS MARK TRAHAN.
I WILL TAKE THIS OFF SO I CAN SPEAK CLEARLY AND CHAIR OF THE HAYS COUNTY DEMOCRATIC PARTY. AND I WANT TO SPECKS BRIEFLY OF A PROBLEM THAT I THINK YOU AS WELL AS I CAN QUITE UNDERSTAND AND THAT IS DISTRUST IN GOVERNANCE.
DISTRUST IN GOVERNANCE HAS BECOME PERVASIVE.
REGARDLESS OF POLITICAL PARTY, WE HAVE SEEN IT ACROSS THE BOARD AND YOU PROBABLY EXPERIENCED IT.
DISTRUST IN GOVERNANCE HAS BECOME LIKE A DISEASE AS IT SPREADS, IT GETS WORSE AND WORSE AND IT CONTINUES TO PERPETUATE. I CALL ON YOU TODAY TO TAKE STOCK IN THIS PROCESS OF REDISTRICTING SO THAT WE DON'T PERPETUATE DISTRUST. WE ARE SETTING THE GROUNDWORK NOW. I WANT TO TELL YOU WHAT HAS ALREADY BEEN DONE SO YOU ARE CLEAR.
ALSO I WANT TO TELL YOU WHAT I AM PROPOSING AND SUGGESTING.
FIRST OF ALL, I HAVE HAD CONVERSATION WITH THE REPUBLICAN COUNTY CHAIR. AS EARLY AS JUNE 4, I WAS MENTIONING TO HIM TO MEET WITH HIM ON REDISTRICTING.
HIS RESPONSE TO ME AND HE CAN CERTAINLY CLARIFY HIS WORDS -- I WANT TO MAKE SURE HE FEELS UNDERSTOOD IN THIS PROCESS HE SAID THAT HE WASN'T READY TO MEET AND HE WANTED TO WAIT FOR THE MAPS TO DRAW UP AND THE CENSUS DAY DATA TO COME.
8/11, 2021 I RECEIVED COMMUNICATION FROM JANICE JONES THAT I WAS EVERYBODY SERVING ON THE ADVISORY COMMISSION AND THE POINTS OF CONTACT WILL BE HER AT THE HAYS COUNTY AND GENERAL COUNSEL AND REQUEST SHOULD BE GEARED THROUGH THE COMMISSIONERS COURT WHO WILL BEGIN HOLD MEETINGS EITHER IN LATE AUGUST OR EARLY SEPTEMBER. THAT THERE WILL BE A WORKSHOP PLAN TO KICK OFF THE REDI REDISTRICTING PROCESS IN THE COUNTY. 8/24/21 I E-MAILED OF THE REPUBLICAN COUNTY CHAIR MEETING WITH HIM AND JENNIFER ANDERSON AND I PLANNED TO BRING UP REDISTRICTING.
JANUARY 21. I ASKED TO REQUEST A MEET.
HE STATED HE WOULD, AND HE DIDN'T FOLLOW UP AND I WASN'T ABLE TO MEET WITH HIM ACTUALLY UNTIL THIS PAST -- GET MY DAYS CONFUSED. IT WAS YESTERDAY ACTUALLY.
A LOT GOING ON. SO HAVING SAID THAT, I ALSO RECEIVED INFORMATION FROM MISS JONES ON 9 2021 THAT ALLISON, BASS, MAGEE, LLP WILL MAKE THEIR PRESENTATION DURING THE HAYS COUNTY COMMISSIONERS COURT SEPTEMBER 21 AT 11 A.M.
THAT WAS ACTUALLY -- THE 21 WAS THREE WEEKS AFTER THE ORIGINAL SUGGESTION AROUND THE BEGINNING OF SEPTEMBER.
AS SO, I HAD A MEETING WITH THE REPUBLICAN COUNTY CHAIR AND BECAUSE I HAD SEEN NO MOVEMENT AROUND WHAT WE WERE DOING AND PREPARING FOR, I PREPARED A PRELIMINARY SCHEDULE WHICH I CAN PROPOSE TO YOU THAT I GAVE TO THE REPUBLICAN COUNTY CHAIR AND ASKED IF HE WOULD BE IN ACCORDANCE WITH.
HE SAID YES. AND I SENT THAT PROPOSED STUDY OUT TO THE COMMISSIONER AS WELL AS ALL OF THE MEMBERS.
I HAD TAKEN THIS UPON MYSELF TO DO THIS.
SO YOU CAN SEE THAT SO FAR, THERE HAVE BEEN A LOT OF QUESTIONS IN MY MIND ABOUT THIS PROCESS AND THE PROCEDURE.
I HAD NOT BEEN CLEAR ABOUT WHERE THE DATA HAD COME FROM.
I ASKED QUESTIONS. IN FACT I ASKED QUESTIONS ON E-MAIL TO JANICE JONES WHETHER THE MAPPING TODAY WILL BE IN HIGH DIGITAL RESOLUTION. WHETHER WE WOULD BE ABLE TO TAKE MAPS WITH US. I HAVEN'T HEARD THE ANSWER TO THOSE QUESTIONS. THE POINT I AM MAKING IS THE PROCESS IS ALREADY SETTING THE STAGE FOR DISTRUST.
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AND IT IS TIME FOR US TO TAKE SERIOUS MEASURES TO ENSURE THAT THIS PROCESS IS TRANSPARENT, THAT IT IS FAIR AND HAVE CHECKS AND BALANCES I HAVE THE SCHEDULE THAT I WILL PROPOSE TO YOU AND AN INTRODUCTION MEETING THIS WEEK TO GET TOGETHER AND LEARN MORE OF THE CHARGE OF THE COMMISSION.I STILL HAVEN'T RECEIVED THAT CHARGE FROM THE COUNTY, SO I AM STILL NOT CLEAR WHAT THAT CHARGE IS DIRECTLY TO ME.
I ALSO WOULD LIKE TO GO OVER SCHEDULING AND FIND OUT FROM STEVE FLOYD ABOUT THE GIS PROCEDURES AND HOW THE CONVERSATION OF HOW WE WILL DEVELOP THESE COMMUNITY INTERESTS. AND HEAR FROM GENERAL COUNSEL ABOUT THE STATUTORY REQUIREMENTS IN THIS PROCESS.
I SCHEDULED FOUR WEEKS OF INTERVIEWS WITH THE COMMUNITY AS A SUGGESTION AND RECOMMENDATION.
I ALSO SCHEDULED IN FOUR WEEKS OF MAP MEETINGS WITH STEVE FLOYD TO ENSURE THAT WE HAVE ENOUGH TIME TO LOOK AT INITIAL MAPS AND WORK ON THOSE MAPS TOGETHER.
AND THEN I ALSO SUGGESTED A T TWO-WEEK PERIOD BETWEEN THE TIME IN WHICH THE MAPS WERE FINALIZED FOR THE PUBLIC TO GIVE COMMENT AND INPUT. FINALLY I SUGGESTED THAT THE FINAL VOTE BE TWO WEEKS BEFORE THE FILING DEADLINE DEPENDENT ON -- WE HAVE A DECEMBER 15 FILING DEADLINE THAT WE SHOULD KNOW LATER THIS WEEK. ALL OF THIS IS A TYPE TIMELINE FOR REDISTRICTING REQUIRES THAT ANY MEMBERS OF THE REDIS REDISTRICTSING COMMITTEE. THE COMMISSION.
TO SHOW UP, PARTICIPATE AND BE AN ACTIVE MEMBER OF THIS PROCESS. REQUIRES THAT THE COUNTY TAKE SERIOUSLY HOW TO COLLECT PUBLIC COMMENT FROM THE COMMUNITY.
THIS MEASURE, ALONG WITH ENSURING THAT THE PUBLIC HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SEE MAPS TO ENSURE THEY ARE ABLE TO GIVE FEEDBACK IS CRUCIAL FOR ESTABLISHING TRUST IN THIS PROCESS. IN FINAL, I THINK WE ALL NEED TO TAKE A STEP BACK FOR A MINUTE AND TAKE THIS ISSUE SERIOUSLY ABOUT HOW WE ARE GOING TO ESTABLISH TRUST IN THE PROCESS. IT REQUIRES A GOOD-FAITH EFFORT OF CHECKS AND BALANCES ON THE SYSTEM TO ENSURE THAT PEOPLE DON'T TAKE THE MAPS AS BEING LEADERS ATTEMPTING TO TAKE THEIR POSITIONS TO CONTINUE TO ESTABLISH THEIR POWER.
AND IT IS TIME FOR US TO TAKE A STEP BACK AND ASK THE COMMUNITY WHAT THEY NEED IN ORDER TO HEAL AND TO PREPARE FOR THIS PROCESS AND TO GIVE INPUT INTO HOW WE ARE GOING TO DO THIS IN ORDER TO ENSURE THAT THE PUBLIC UNDERSTANDS AND HAS SOME INPUT AND FEELS TRUSTING OF THE PROJECT SES.
THANK YOU. >> JUDGE BECERRA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. OUR LAST SPEAKER.
AND OUR LAST SPEAKER IS POLICE SUZANNE RA BUCK.
AND I HAVE BEEN ASKED TO AND FAIR -- WE HAVE BEEN GOING PAST OUR THREE MINUTES. SO PLEASE LET'S -- LEAVE OURSELVES CLOSER TO THAT WINDOW --
>> YES. I AM SUSAN RAYBUCK FROM WIMBERLY, TEXAS. I'M HERE TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE REDISTRICTING PRO PROCESS.
WHEN YOU HAVE MAPS THAT GIVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO ELECT PEOPLE FROM THEIR OWN COMMUNITY. THEY CAN HAVE A VOICE EVEN IF IT ISN'T SOMEONE FROM WITHIN THEIR OWN COMMUNITY.
THEY CAN BAND TOGETHER AND ADVOCATE FOR THINGS THEY NEED FOR THEMSELVES. UNFAIR MAPS DO THE OPPOSITE.
THEY KEEP PEOPLE SO DIVIDED UP THAT THEY CAN NOT SPEAK IN A COHERENT GROUP VOICE TO THEIR ELECTED REPRESENTATIVES TO GET THE THINGS THEIR COMMUNITY NEEDS.
I HEARD RECENTLY THE TESTIMONY OF DR. MICHELLE COHEN OF THE HAYS LATINO UNITED. AND ONE OF THE THINGS SHE POINTED OUT DURING THE COVID PROCESS, SHE TOOK IT UPON HERSELF TO TRY TO GET PERSONAL PROTECTIVE EQUIPMENT TO MEMBERS OF HER COMMUNITY. IT WAS VERY DIFFICULT.
HER COMMUNITY WAS NOT TARGETED FOR MUCH DISTRIBUTION FROM THE HAYS HEALTH CARE SYSTEM. THEY WERE MORE LEFT OUT THAN OTHER GROUPS WITHIN THE COMMUNITY.
ALSO, SHE HAD TROUBLE FINDING SPACE TO HAVE PUBLIC MEETINGS, TO HAVE DISTRIBUTIONS OF RESOURCES AND SOMEBODY INVOLVED IN LOOKING AT THEIR VOTING LOCATIONS, I KNOW THAT THERE IS A DIRTH OF PLACES THAT ARE ADEQUATE FOR HOLDING IN EAST SIDE OF THIS COUNTY. AND IT IS A VERY FAST-GROWING
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AREA. IT NEEDS ITS RESOURCES.IT NEEDS ITS VOICE. PEOPLE HERE SHOULD HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK, IF THEY ARE MEMBERS OF WHATEVER ETHNICITY. IT IS THEIR RIGHT AS A CITIZEN OF THIS COUNTRY TO BE HEARD. TO AFFECT THE PROCESS AND
SHOULD BE A FAIR CRISIS. >> JUDGE BECERRA: THAT CONCLUDES OUR COMMENTS. ANY WRITTEN COMMENTS?
>> MS. CARDENAS: NO, THERE IS NOT.
>> JUDGE BECERRA: AND THIS OVER SO ALLISON, BASS, MAGEE, LLP. AND IF YOU APPROACH THE PODIUM AND BEGIN YOUR PRESENTATION. AND IF YOU WILL STATE YOUR NAME AND TITLE FOR THE VIEWING PUBLIC.
>> MY NAME IS BOB BASS WITH THE FIRM OF ALLISON, BASS, MAGEE, LLP. RETAINED BY THE COUNTY TO ASSIST THEM IN THE REDI REDISTRICTING EFFORT.
I APOLOGIZE FOR THE DELAY IN GETTING THIS PROCESS STARTED.
WE RECEIVED AUGUST 12 WHAT IS KNOWN AS LEGACY DATA FROM THE DEPARTMENT -- THE CENSUS BU BUREAU.
THAT LEGACY DATA COMES IN RAW FORM, MEANING THAT IT IS NOT BEEN PROCESSED INTO SUITABLE GIS SYSTEM FORMAT.
SO WE HAD TO GO THROUGH, WITH THE ASSISTANCE OF OUR SOFTWARE VENDORS SOME PROCESSING. THERE HAVE BEEN MORE ISSUES, I GUESS YOU MIGHT SAY, WITH GETTING THAT DATA IN SUITABLE FORM TO CONDUCT THE REDIS REDISTRICTSING WORK.
SO ANY DELAY IN GETTING STARTED THAT MAY BE PERCEIVED BY SOME I WILL ACCEPT THE RESPONSIBILITY FOR THAT BUT NOT BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T BEEN WORKING AT IT DILIGENTLY.
WE RELEASED THE CENSUS INITIAL ASSESSMENT TO THE COUNTY LAST WEEK I THINK. AND I WOULD LIKE TO GO OVER THAT IN SUMMARY FORM. HOPEFULLY YOU ALL SEEN A COPY OF THAT ASSESSMENT AT THIS T TIME.
I ASSUME YOU HAVE. THE OFFICIALS ASSESSMENT IS ESSENTIALLY A CALL IT A GAME PLAN OR THE EVENTS AND LAYS OUT THE RATIONAL OF HOW WE DO IT AND GO ABOUT DOING IT AND THE
LIKE. >> THE NUTS AND BOLTS OF THE PROCESS ARE EDED IN TABLES AND MAPS THAT I WILL BE REFERRING TO. WE WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT THERE IS AN ERROR IN ONE OF THE DATA -- I SAY "AN ERROR" BUT NOT REALLY AN ERROR PER SE, BUT -- WHEN WE DO THE REVIEW.
AND I AM GOING TO HAND THIS, I GUESS, TO MARK.
IF YOU WILL DISTRIBUTE THAT. THIS IS THE I WOULD LIKE TO GO, IF YOU WOULD, TO FOLLOWING PAGES 14 OF THE INITIAL ASSESSMENT. IT IS THE TOTAL COUNTY POPULATION FORM. THIS TAKES ALL OF THE COUNTY POPULATION. THE COUNTY POPULATION ACCORDING TO THE CENSUS OF 2020, 241,067 PERSONS.
WE HAVE ALLOCATED THAT POPULATION TO THE EXISTING PRECINCT BOUNDARIES. AND IT REVEALS THAT YOU DIVIDE YOUR TOTAL POPULATION BY FOUR TO GET THE IDEAL POPULATION SIZE AND COMPARE THE IDEAL POPULATION WITHIN EACH OF THE PRECINCT AS THEY EXIST TODAY. BY THAT FORMULA, PRECINCT ONE IS OVERPOPULATED BY 364 PEOPLE OR ONLY .016.
HOWEVER, PRECINCT 2 IS OVERPOPULATED BY 12,787 OR 21.22%. PRECINCT 3 IS UNDERPOPULATED BY 13,907 OR 23.8%. PRECINCT 4 IS OVERPOPULATED BY
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755 PEOPLE OR 1.25%. TO DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT YOUR LEGALLY OBLIGATED TO REDRAW BOUNDARIES, THE THRESHOLD FOR LOCAL GOVERNMENTAL ENTITIES IS NOR MONDAY THAN A 10% TOP TO BOTTOM DEVIATION FROM THAT IDEAL PERCENTAGE OR IDEA SIZE. SO YOU ARE AT 44.3%, TOP TO BOTTOM. TAKE THE MOST OVERPOPULATED PRECINCTS, DISREGARD THE PLUS OR MINUS SIGN, ADD TOGETHER THE LOWEST POPULATED PRECINCT, DISREGARDING THE PLUS OR MINUS.ADD THE TWO NUMBERS TOGETHER, AND YOU GET THE TOTAL MAXIMUM RAGE OF DEVIATION. THE 23.22 PLUS 23.08 EQUALS 44.3%. CLEARLY YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE TO REDRAW YOUR BOUNDARIES. BECAUSE THERE IS A CORRECTIONAL FACILITY IN THE COUNTY THAT HOLDS INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE NOT TYPICALLY ELIGIBLE TO VOTE, THE COUNTY HAS THE OPTION TO EITHER COUNT, INCLUDE OR EXCLUDE THAT POPULATION.
THERE ARE REASONS FOR BOTH. JAILS, PRISONS IN THE COUNTY THAT RECEIVE SOME GOVERNMENTAL ASSISTANCE BY WAY OF CONTRACTUAL REVENUES OR OTHER AGREEMENTS DO REQUIRE SOME SERVICES SO WOULD NOT BE INAPPROPRIATE TO INCLUDE THE POPULATION IN THE POLITICAL MAP DRAWING.
ON THE OTHER HAND, PRISONS THAT ARE HOLDING FELONS ARE BY STATUTE NOT ELIGIBLE TO VOTE UNTIL THEY RECEIVE A PARDON OR RESTORATION OF THEIR VOTING RIGHTS SO YOU HAVE A BLOCK, A CONCENTRATED PLOT AS MIGHT APPEAR ON TO THE DEMOCRATIC ANALYSIS ELIGIBLE TO VOTE AND THEREFORE ARE NOT.
AND THAT DISPARITY CAN EITHER APPEAR TO STRENGTHEN MINORITY CONTENT BUT IN FACT SOMEWHAT WEAKENS THAT MINORITY EFFECT BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT ELIGIBLE TO VOTE.
SO MANY COUNTIES EXCLUDE THAT POPULATION.
IN YOUR CASE, THAT POPULATION IS INSTITUTIONAL CORRECTIONAL POPULATIONS THAT HOUSE INDIVIDUALS MOST LIKELY INELIGIBLE TO VOTE IS 522 PEOPLE.
YOU HAVE THE COUNTY JAIL AS WELL THAT HOLDS AN ADDITIONAL GROUP OF POPULATION AND TYPICALLY THAT POPULATION HAS NOT YET BEEN CONVICTED SO WE TYPICALLY DON'T EXCLUDE YOUR COUNTY JAIL. AND IT MAY HAVE POTENTIAL VOTES TO CAST AND AN INITIAL QUESTION THAT WE HAVE TO ADDRESS.
AND THE ERROR OR ERATA SHEET THINK THAT HANDED OUT, THE ORIGINAL COUNT OBTAINED IN THE ORIGINAL ASSESSMENTS, BOTH THE COUNTY JAIL AND DETENTION FACILITY WAS INCLUDED IN THE EXCLUDED POPULATION. AND GOING BACK TAKING THE COUNTY JAIL, IT GOES BACK IN THE GENERAL POPULATION AND ONLY THE DETENTION FACILITY THAT IS HOLDING INELIGIBLE PERSONS.
YES? >> IS THAT IN THE NUMBERS IN THE COUNTY JAIL OPINION I KNOW WE REVIEWED THE NUMBER OF THAT ARE COUNTY RESIDENTS VERSUS OUT OF COUNTY.
>> THAT IS NOT CONTAINED IN THE ESSENTIAL RUSS DATA.
WE CAN DO OUR OWN HEAD COUNT, BUT IN COUNT IS EFFECTIVE AS OF APRIL 1, 2020 POP TODAY IT MAY BE DIFFERENT NUMBERS ALL TOGETHER. SO IN MY EXPERIENCE, WE DON'T
GO DOWN TO THAT LEVEL. >> WALT SMITH: THANK YOU.
>> THAT BEING SAID, WITH THE CORRECTION, WE ARE STILL AT 44.39%. AND IT IS A LITTLE BETTER OF THE INITIAL ANALYSIS BUT 522 IN THE ORDER OF THINGS IS A RELATIVELY. IT MIGHT HAVE SOME EFFECT ON SUCH THINGS AS THE SIZING OF A VOTING BOX AND INFLUENCE AN ELECTION, IT IS UNLIKELY THIS WILL BE A MAJOR FACTOR AND SOMETHING WE WILL NEED TO HAVE SOME DIRECTION ON.
>> THAT BEING SAID UNDER ASSUMING -- AGAIN, I AM DOING
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SOME ASSUMPTIONS HERE AND IF I AM TAKING TOO MUCH AS A MATTER OF ASSUMPTION, PLEASE CORRECT ME, BUT IF YOU LOOK AT THE HANDOUT THINK THAT JUST GAVE YOU, PRECINCT ONE HAS THE MOST CONCENTRATION OF HISPANIC POPULATION.OF THE TOTAL POPULATION, 53.78% OF PRECINCT ONE.
IT IS OF THE VOTING AGE POPULATION 50.33% OF PRECINCT 1'S TOTAL VOTING AGE POPU POPULATION.
WHERE WE SEE MINORITY CONCENTRATIONS IN COMMUNITIES OF INTEREST THAT ARE REASONABLY COMPACT, WE TRY TO KEEP THOSE COMMUNITIES OF INTEREST TOGETHER.
I AM GOING TO ASK YOU TO FLIP OVER TO THE MAP FOLLOWING PAGE
19. >> WHERE IS THAT MAP, MARK?
>> DEBBIE INGALSBE: WE DON'T HAVE THAT INFORMATION.
IT WAS -- >> WE JUST GOT IN ONE PAGE.
>> DEBBIE INGALSBE: WHAT IS IN BACKUP THAT IS ONLY A COUPLE OF
PAGES. >> JUDGE BECERRA: FIVE-MINUTE RECESS.
SHORT RECESS TO GET THE MATERIAL THAT WAS NOT AVAILABLE AT THE TIME, NOT DELIBERATELY BUT IS NOW AVAILABLE AND I ASKED OUR COUNTY CLERK'S OFFICE TO PUSH THIS MATERIAL ON TO THE -- WHAT IS THAT, THE INTRAWEB. WHAT DO WE CALL THAT THERE.
SO THE MATERIAL THAT WE ARE REVIEWING FOR THE FIRST TIME IN CERTAIN SPACES WILL BE AVAILABLE TO YOU AS WELL, THE VIEWING PUBLIC. IF YOU WILL PLEASE -- WE WILL ROTATE THROUGHOUT INFORMATION. AND SINCE YOU ALREADY SPOKE OF THIS ONE, I HAVE ASKED THEM TO START WITH THIS ONE.
>> ALL RIGHT, THIS CHART IS WHAT WE GENERALLY CALL THE DEMOGRAPHIC ANALYSIS PAGE. IT SHOWS IN THE UPPER BOX THE DISPARITY BETWEEN THE FOUR PRECINCTS ON TERMS OF TOTAL POPULATION WITHIN THIS SCE SCENARIO.
WE HAVE EXTRACTED ABOUT 522 PERSONS WHO WERE LISTED AS INSTITUTIONALIZED CORRECTIONAL INMATES.
AND THE STATE OR FEDERAL PR PRISON.
WE HAVE LEFT IN THE GENERAL POPULATION, POPULATION WITHIN YOUR HAYS COUNTY JAIL AS I PREVIOUSLY DISCUSSED.
THE TOTAL DISPARITY OF THIS CART IS 44.39%.
THE 522 PEOPLE EXCLUDE READY NONVOTERS, AND SO WE HAVE PROVIDE THIS INFORMATION SO THE COURT COULD MAKE THE DETERMINATION WHETHER TO INCLUDE OR EXCLUDE THAT NUMBER OF PEOPLE. OF THE LOWER -- THE SECOND BRACKET OF CHARTS IT THE TOTAL NET POPULATION BY ETHIC MAK MAKE-UP. THE CENSUS ACTUALLY HAS I THINK MAYBE AS MANY AS 32 AND A VERY LONG LIST OF COUNTING BRACKETS, BUT WE HAVE TAKEN THE PRINCIPLE NORMALLY ACCEPTED BRACKETS OF POPULATION AS ANGL O, BLACK, AMERICAN INDIAN, ASIAN, PACIFIC ISLANDERS OR MULTI. MULTIIS THOSE WHO ANSWERS TWO OR MORE ETHIC OR RACIAL CHARACTERISTICS AND THOSE POPULATIONS ADDED TOGETHER EQUAL THE TOTAL POPULATION AS REPORTED BY THE CENSUS BUREAU. WE THEN USE THOSE SAME NUMBERS TO GIVE US THE ETHIC PERCENTAGE IN EACH PRECINCT AND I AM NOT GOING TO RECITE THROUGH ALL OF THAT, BUT ESSENTIALLY WHAT WE LOOK AT GENERALLY ARE PRECINCTS THAT HAVE A SUBSTANTIAL PERCENTAGE OF MINORITY CONTENT. THE SHORTHAND WAY TO GET TO
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THAT IS THE PRECINCT WITH THE LOWEST ANGLO POPULATION WHICH IS PRECINCT 1 WITH ANGLO OF 34.31%.PRECINCT 2 IT THE NEXT CLOSEST WITH 43.67%.
THE 53.58% HISPANIC POPULATION IN PRECINCT ONE.
AND 47.4% IN PRECINCT TWO. IT SUGGESTS THAT MINORITY VOTERS HAVE AT LEAST AN INFLUENCE ABILITY ON ELECTIONS.
IF YOU LOOK AT THAT LOWER CH CHART.
AND THE VOTING AGE POPULATION. IT IS COMMONLY UNDERSTOOD THAT MINORITY POPULATIONS AS A RULE, A GENERAL RULE, A VERY BROAD RULE ARE DEMOGRAPHICALLY TYPICALLY YOUNGER THAN A SIMILARLY SIZED ANGLO POPULATION BECAUSE THEY ARE YOUNGER LESS NUMBERS OF THEM ELIGIBLE TO VOTE AND TRADITIONALLY, THEY HAVE LOWER PERCENTAGE OF REGISTRATION.
AND OF THE REGISTERED MINORITY VOTERS OF VOTING AGE, LOWER TURNOUTS. THAT IS NOT ALWAYS TRUE BLACK POPULATIONS OVER THE YEARS LEARNED THAT THE POWER OF THE VOTE IS VALUABLE AND TURN OUT AT SIMILAR RATIOS AT HISPANIC AND THE POPULATION HAVE PERSONALLY YET TO UNDERSTAND AND EMBRACE THE POLITICAL POWER OF THE VOTE.
AND SO NOT AS RIGOROUS OR VIGOROUS ENROLLMENT BY HISPANIC RESIDENTS. WITH THAT BEING SAID, YOU TYPICALLY HAVE TO SIZE UP THE MINORITY CONTENT OF A PRESTOINGT GIVE REASONABLE FOR MINORITY CANDIDATE AND ONE OF PROBLEMS AREAS OVER TIME THAT THE NUMBER OF PERSONS OF MINORITY BACKGROUND WHO LIVE IN WELL DEFINED NEIGHBORHOOD HAS DECREASED AS ECONOMIC HAVE IMPROVED TRADITIONAL NEIGHBORHOOD SO THE POPULATION IS MORE DIFFUSED THROUGH THE ENTIRE POPULATION. IT MAKES IT HARDER TO MAINTAIN OR BUILD A MORE ROBUST MINORITY PRECINCT.
LOOKING AT THE DATA AND THEN AT THE -- THE RELATED MAPS, I WILL PREFER TO YOU THE FIRST MAP THAT IS OF INTEREST.
IT FOLLOWS PAGE 15, THE COMMISSIONER PRECINCT MAP.
IF YOU HAVE THE ABILITY TO PULL THAT UP ON THE --
>> JUDGE BECERRA: WE DO. SHE IS DOING IT NOW, SIR.
>> ALL RIGHT. THE INITIAL ASSESSMENT
COMMISSIONER PRECINCTS. >> IF YOU LOOK AT THE MAP, THE DILEMMA IS GEOGRAPHY AS MUCH AS ANYTHING ELSE, PRECINCT THAT AND PRECINCT 3 WHICH IS UNDERPOPULATED BY NEARLY 14,000 PEOPLE. THEY SHARE NO COMMON BOUNDARY AND SO MOVING POPULATION OUT OF TWO AND TRYING TO MOVE THAT POPULATION INTO THREE IS GOING TO BE COMPLICATED BY THE FACT THAT THAT POPULATION IS GOING TO HAVE TO BE SHED THROUGH OR INTO FOUR AND THEN INTO THREE. THIS IS GOING TO RIPPLE ACROSS ALL THE PRECINCTS. WITH POSSIBLE EXCEPTION OF PRECINCT 1. AND PRECINCT 1 WE MAY WANT TO SEE IF IT IS POSSIBLE TO INCREASE ITS MINORITY CONTENT OUT OF THE MINORITY CONTENT IN PRECINCT TOO.
SO AS TO STRENGTHEN THE MINORITY VOTING STRENGTH IN PRECINCT 1. PRECINCT 1 AS IT STANDS IS ALMOST PERFECT ALMOST 27 PEOPLE BEYOND THE REVEAL.
>> PRECINCT IS ALWAYS REFERRED TO AS PERFECT OR CLOSE TO
PERFECT. >> TERMS OF DEMOGRAPHICS.
>> JUDGE BECERRA: ARE YOU SAYING JUST TO CLARIFY FOR THE LAYMEN IN THE ROOM HERE. ARE YOU SAYING THAT IT IS A
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GOOD IDEA TO PUT MORE MINORITY REPRESENTATION INTO ONE.IS THAT WHAT YOU JUST SAID? AT 50% OF VOTING AGE POPU POPULATION, IT IS POSSIBLE BUT UNLIKELY, ALTHOUGH THE PRESENCE OF COMMISSIONER INGALSBE ON THE COURT DEMONSTRATES THAT CINCO -- THAT THAT PRECINCT HAS BEEN ABLE TO ELECT MINORITY REPRESENTATION THAT IS DUE TO THE QUALITY OF THE OFFICEHOLDER AND THE CANDIDATE NOT INDICATION THAT WILL BE 50% OF ELIGIBLE VOTERS.
>> HIGHER PERCENTAGE IN PRECINCT ONE AND I AM JUST
GUESSING. >> I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT WAS BUT LIKELY THAT IT IS HIGHER THAN IT IS TODAY.
THE GROWTH IN THAT PRECINCT, IT'S BEEN THERE.
IT JUST HAS BEEN MORE BALANCED THAN THE OTHERS.
YOU HAVE GROWN, YOU KNOW, SUBSTANTIALLY.
CERTAINLY HAYS HAS BEEN ONE OF THE FASTEST GROWING GOVERNMENTAL JURISDICTIONS IN THE COUNTRY FOR THE LAST TWO DECADES AT THE RATE OF GROWTH. SO YOU HAVE BEEN BOTH THE BENEFICIARY AND THE VICTIM OF SUCH HEAVY GROWTH WHICH IS BOTH
A BLESSING AND A CURSE. >> DEBBIE INGALSBE: THE OTHER UNFORTUNATE THING, I GUESS, IF WE SAY "UNFORTUNATE"WHEN WE DID THE CENSUS, WE KNOW THAT PRECINCT 1 AND THE SURROUNDING AREAS ARE THE ONE HAD THE LOWER NUMBER OF PEOPLE PARTICIPATING
IN THE CENSUS. >> I AM OFTEN ASKED, YOU KNOW, 143 TEXAS COUNTIES ACTUALLY DECLINED IN POPULATION AT THE SAME TIME THE STATE AS A WHOLE GREW BY NEARLY FOUR MILLION PEOPLE. AS HAS BEEN TESTIFIED TO AND GARNERED TWO ADDITIONAL CONGRESSIONAL SEATS.
SO THERE HAS BEEN TREMENDOUS GROWTH, BUT TENDS TO HAVE BEEN IN THE URBAN AREAS ALONG I-35 THE HOUSTON AREA.
THE MIDLAND AREA HAS GROWN, THE LUBBOCK AREA HAS GROWN.
EL PASO HAS GROWN. BUT BY AND LARGE, A LOT OF THE -- WHAT I STILL CALL THE RURAL TEXAS HAS DECLINED.
SO IT IS GOING TO MEAN PROBABLY SIGNIFICANT ADJUSTMENTS TO THE POPULATION IN ALL FOUR PRECINCTS.
ANOTHER COMPLICATING FACTOR IS THAT WE HAVE -- WE TRY TO PRESERVE CONTINUITY OF LEADERSHIP AS ONE OF THE GOALS THAT WE STRIVE TO HONOR AND THAT I GUESS WE MEAN WE TRY TO NOT DISENFRANCHISE AN INCUMBENT BY MOVING THE BOUNDARIES IN SUCH A WAY THEY NO LONGER REPRESENT THE PEOPLE WHO ELECTED THEM TO OFFICE. THERE IS NO NECESSARILY A PROPERTY INTEREST IN ELECTIVE OFFICE BUT IT TAKES TIME FOR PEOPLE TO EARN AND LEARN THE ROPES AND HOW TO BE AN EFFECTIVE LEADER IN AN ELECTIVE OFFICE AND SEEMS A WASTE OF TALENT AND TRAINING AND EFFORTS TO DISENFRANCHISE THOSE INCUMBENTS. THAT BEING SAID, PUSH COMES TO SHOVE, CASE LAW SUGGESTS THAT VOTING RIGHTS ACT AND THE CONSTITUTIONAL ONE-PERSON, O ONE-VOTE NECESSARY TEAS MAY PREVAIL. I DON'T ANTICIPATE -- BUT I KNOW COMMISSIONER INGALSBE LIVES VERY NEAR THE BOUNDARY AND COMMISSIONER IN PRECINCT 2 LIVES FAIRLY NEAR A BOUNDARY.
SO WE ARE GOING TO BE CAREFUL WHEN WE MAKE THOSE ADJUSTMENTS THAT WE TRY TO KEEP THOSE FOLKS INTACT IN THEIR PRECINCTS.
THE NEXT THING THAT I WOULD LIKE TO DRAW YOUR ATTENTION TO IS AS YOU CAN SEE IN THIS MAP, PRECINCT 4, WHICH IS SHADED GREEN. RED IS 1.
FOUR IS GREEN. FOUR KIND OF CUTS THROUGH THE COUNTY AND SEPARATES TWO AND THREE, SO THAT ES GEOGRAPHICAL DILEMMA OF MOVING 13,000 AND 14,000 PEOPLE.
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AND BY MOVING PEOPLE, I AM TALKING ABOUT MOVING GEOGRAPHY.YOU TRY TO MOVE PEOPLE WHERE THE POPULATION IS THE MOST DENSE IN TOWNS AND SUBDIVISIONS RATHER THAN TRYING TO MOVE A NUMBER OF PEOPLE JUST BY TAKING IN LARGE SWATHS OF RURAL AREA.
THAT HAS GOVERNMENTAL IMPACT BY INCREASING ROAD MILEAGE WHERE YOU ARE TRYING TO USE TERRITORIES TO INCREASE POPULATION. SO MOST OF THE LINE DRAWN WILL BE DONE MORE AT A MICROLEVEL THAN A MACROLEVEL, MEANING WE WILL DRY TO BE CONCENTRATING THE CHANGES WHERE THE POPULATION IS MOST CONCENTRATED IN THE TOWNS, SUBDIVISIONS AND THE LIKE. IF YOU WILL LOOK AT THE MAP THAT FOLLOWS PAGE 19, THIS IS A DISTRIBUTION CHART SHOWING WHERE THE HISPANIC POPULATION IS LOCATED.
CHART IS A LITTLE BIT MISLEADING IN A SENSE.
WE HAVE ASKED THE COMPUTER PROGRAM TO SHOW US THE BLOCKS WHERE THE MINORITY CONTENT, HISPANIC MINORITY CONTENT IS GREATER THAN 50%. AND THE WAY THE SOFTWARE WORKS, IT ASSUMES THAT YOU WILL ALSO WANT TO SEE THE BLOCKS THAT ARE BELOW 50%. AND SO A BIG PART OF THE MAP THAT YOU ARE GOING TO SEE IS SHADED GREEN.
THAT REALLY MEANS THAT CENSUS BLOCK IS NO BETTER THAN 49% HISPANIC. SO IF YOU TRY TO BUILD A MINORITY DISTRICT -- MINORITY, MAJORITY DISTRICT, WHILE YOU MAY BE REQUIRED AT SOME POINT TO TAKE SOME OF THOSE LOWER POPULATION CENSUS BLOCKS IN TO THE PLAN FOR CONTIG WIT PUR PURPOSES, MAY. YOU WANT THE YELLOW AND RED BLOCKS TO COME IN. AND THOSE ARE THE BLOCKS THAT SHOW 50 TO 0% IN YELLOW. AND -- 80% IN YELLOW AND RED IS 80% OR GREATER. WE WILL BE WORKING WITH THE COMMISSION AND THE COURT TO ACHIEVE COMMUNITY OF INTEREST, CONCERNS AND SATISFY THE LEGAL REQUIREMENTS THAT WE ARE
REQUIRED TO COMPLY WITH. >> JUDGE BECERRA: SO WHEN YOU DISCUSS COMMUNITIES OF INT INTEREST, I HAD -- OF COURSE, WE ALL HAVE OUR EARS TALKED OFF BY THIS SUBJECT.
I HAD THE -- AND I WILL SAY MILDLY RIDICULOUSNESS OF THE SUGGESTION OF WIMBERLY AND DRIPPING SPRINGS ARE THE SAME -- OF A COMMUNITY OF INTEREST AND WE SHOULD PUT THAT IN ONE PRECINCT. HOW -- BECAUSE I SEE THIS MAP THAT YOU ARE SHOWING ACTUALLY ON THE SCREEN THERE.
YOU CAN SEE ONE GOES THROUGH SAN MARCOS, GOES THROUGH KYLE AND EDGES UP TO BUDA. WHAT ABOUT THE IDEA OF SAYING, WELL, DRIPPING SPRINGS AND WIMBERLY COMMUNITY OF INTEREST COULD BE ARGUED. WHY WOULDN'T OR SHOULDN'T THEY
BE VIEWED A $ONE QUADRANT. >> COMMUNITIES OF INTEREST IN THE CASE LAW UNDER THE VOTING RIGHTS ACT UNFORTUNATELY TENDS TO SKEW TOWARD MINORITY POPULATIONS.
REALLY WHAT WE ARE LOOKING FOR MAKING SURE THAT MINORITY POPULATIONS ARE REASONABLY CONTACT AND SHARED SCHOOLS, SHARED CHURCHES, SHARED INTEREST.
YOU HAVE NOT FRAGMENT THOSE. THE LEVEL OF SCRUTINY GIVEN TO MORE ANGLO POPULATIONS IS NOT THE SAME.
AND SO WE ARE REALLY NOT FOCUSING ON KEEPING PEOPLE -- WE ARE TRYING -- I THINK OUR WHOLE SOCIETY IS TRYING TO DISPERSE RECOMMENDTATION SO EVERYBODY HAS BASE CLEAT SAME RIGHTS BEFORE THE LAW. AND SO REDISTRICTING EFFORT IS SOMETHING OF AN EXERCISE OF INCOMPATIBLE GOALS AND IDEAS.
BECAUSE WE TRY TO MAKE OPPORTUNITIES AVAILABLE AND EVERY TEN YEARS, WE TRY TO COME BACK AND RE-- NOT SEGREGATE BUT REALLOCATE RESOURCES BASED ON RACE.
SO IT SEEMS TO BE COUNTERINTUITIVE.
AND THAT IS JUST THE FUNCTION OF TRYING TO MAKE WHAT I THINK ARE STILL SYSTEMIC RACISM THAT STILL EXISTS TRYING TO MAKE IT
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LESS LIKELY, BUT THE ONLY WAY TO DO THAT IS TO GIVE MINORITYVOTING POPULATIONS A VOICE. >> JUDGE BECERRA: I APPRECIATE YOU SAYING THAT WITH THE COURT ROOM WE HAVE.
THE COURT ROOM FILLED WITH SOME OF THESE PROCLAMATIONS OF UNITY AND REPRESENTATION AND EVERYTHING.
SO THIS IS MY FIRST TIME SITTING HERE AT COUNTY JUDGE GOING THROUGH THIS PROCESS. I KNOW SOME OF MY COLLEAGUES HAVE DONE THIS BEFORE, AN OLD HAT FOR THEM.
LIKE YOU SAID IT SEEMS COUNTERINTUITIVE TO SAY LET'S DUMP ALL LATINO IN COMMISSIONER INGALSBE'S PRECINCT AND THE OTHER FLIPSIDE NO OTHER COMMISSIONERS HAVE TO MESS WITH THEM. I WANT TO BE CAREFUL NOT TO
SEND THAT MESSAGE OUT. >> WHERE POPULATION IS SUFFICIENT, YOU CAN BUILD A SUBSTANTIAL MINORITY MAJORITY IN ONE AND HAVE SUBSTANTIAL INFLUENCE IN ONE MORE.
>> KIND OF WHAT WE HAVE NOW. >> THAT KINDS OF WHAT YOU HAVE
THERE. >> JUDGE BECERRA: I WILL GET IN THE EVENING 5:00 IN THE EVENING AND ASKED AND BOMBARDED AND CALLED. HOW COME THIS AND HOW COME THE OTHER. I HAVE A HARD TIME SAYING IF THIS IS THE GENERAL PHILOSOPHY, OF COURSE, ARTICULATIONS WILL BE DISCUSSED LATER, BUT I WILL HAVE A HARD TIME SITTING AT MY SEAT A CONCENTRATION HIGHER THAN ONE OF THE MINORITIES TO SAY THIS WILL BENEFIT YOUR REPRESENTATION.
WELL, I THINK THAT CHECKED BOX HAS BEEN CHECKED.
AND I JUST -- I DON'T KNOW HOW TO DEFEND THAT.
>> AND THAT IS -- WE -- WE LOOK TO THE -- TO THE PAST VOTING HISTORY. SOMETIMES YOU HAVE A -- IN THIS CASE, YOU HAVE A 50% -- WE TYPICALLY ALSO TEND TO TRY TO BLOCK, GROUP HISPANIC BLOCK WITH BLACK VOTERS AND SEE WHAT THE COMBINED MINORITY POPULATION IS, ASIAN, AMERICAN INDIAN ASSUMING -- WHICH IS A CORRECT ASSUMPTION.
THAT DIFFERENT ELT NICK GROUPS HAVE SIMILAR VOTES PATTERNS.
THAT MAY OR MAY NOT BE TRUE. THE FACT THAT MINORITY REPRESENTATION SUGGEST THAT THESE ARE ADEQUATE.3 WE MAY NOT CHANGE PRECINCT 1 MUCH ALL.
THAT BEING SAID MOST OF THE POPULATION ON THE EAS EASTERN-SOUTHERN AREA OF CO COUNTY, CRADMORE, EWELLEN AND, OF COURSE, THAT SAN MARCOS AN ALL SWITCH WALLY CONTAINED NOW WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE FAR EASTERN CORNER IS IN TWO.
THAT IS WHERE THE MINORITY HISPANIC POPULATION IS.
IF THE NEXT MAP OVER IS THE BLACK POP EWE DISTRIBUTION AND TOTAL POPULATION OF 3.74% BLACK POPULATION IN THE COUNTY.
IT IS UNLIKELY THAT A -- THAT A MINORITY VOTING COULDLY SIEVE VOTING MAJORITY CAN BE FORMED UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCE OF BLACK ONLY. THE ONLY BLOCK THAT SHOWS IS UP HAVING 50% OR GREATER IS DOWN IN SOUTHWEST CORNER OF THE COUNTY. AND IN KYLE, THERE IS A SINGLE AREA. SO THAT POPULATION IS FAIRLY DIFFUSED AND SPREAD OUT OVER THE COUNTY.
THE ASIAN POPULATION IN THE NEXT CHART DOESN'T EVEN SHOW UP BY THOSE STATISTICAL MEASUREMENTS.
SO WE ARE REALLY TALK OF TRYING TO BE HEEDFUL AND MINDFUL OF THE MINORITY CONTENT IN PRECINCT 1, WHILE AT THE SAME TIME, MOVING POPULATION OUT OF PRECINCT 2 AND ACROSS 4 INTO 3.
AND THOSE LINES WILL BE MODIFIED TO ACCOMMODATE THAT BALANCE. IF YOU ANTICIPATE WHERE YOU THINK GROWTH IS GOING TO CONTINUE TO BE SIGNIFICANT IN THE COMING FORESEEABLE FUTURE. YOU MAY WANT TO UNDERPOPULATION -- UNDERPOPULATE THAT PRECINCT SO YOU HAVE MORE ROOM FOR GROWTH OVER A FUTURE IDEAL, TEN YEARS FROM NOW.
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AND THAT WILL MEAN IF YOU UNDERPOPULATION -- UNDERPOPULATE YOUR NOW MOST POPULATED THAT WILL BE A LOT OF BOUNDARY CHANGE AND WILL GIVE YOU MORE -- IN THAT SHED MORE POPULATION IN THE OTHER PRECINCTS AND YOU MAY HAVE A RESULT IN PLAN THAT -- LIKE TO BRING MY PLANS IN UNDER 5%.DEVIATION. BUT IN HIGH GROWTH AREAS, SOMETIMES I ALLOWED THAT NUMBER TO GO UPWARD SO THERE IS SOME MARGIN FOR GROWTH, BUT THE UNDERPOPULATED.
THE TARGET POPULATION IS UNDERPOPULATED AND WILL HAVE MORE ROOM BEFORE IT BECOMES A PROBLEM.
WE CAN LOOK TO A MORE ST STREAMLINE APPROACH SINCE THE VOTING RIGHTS ACT HAS BEEN ESSENTIALLY VACATED AND UNDER WHAT IS KNOWN AS SECTION 5 WHICH NORMALLY WOULD REQUIRE US TO BE BY PRECLEARANCE OF THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE ANY PROPOSED PLAN BEFORE IT IS IMPLEMENTED.
THE SUPREME COURT IN 2013 IN THE SHELBY COUNTY CASE OF ALABAMA SAYING THAT THE CONGRESS HAD NOT RE-EVALUATED ON A FACT FINDING BASIS THE NEED FOR CONTINUATION OF THAT PROVISION ALMOST IMMEDIATELY SEVERAL STATES, TEXAS INCLUDED, BEGAN TO IMPLEMENT WHAT PROBABLY WOULD NOT HAVE PASSED PRECLEARANCE. UNDER THE VOTING RIGHTS ACT.
SO I THINK EFFORTS TO MINN MINNEHAHAMIZE ANY NORTH VOTING RIGHTS CONTINUE ON A GOVERNMENTAL LEVEL AND I EXPECT A GOOD EFFORT WILL BE MADE TO REINVIGORATE SECTION 5 AND I DON'T KNOW IF IT WILL HAPPEN IN YEAR BUT IT COULD.
WE FOLLOW THE RULES OF THE ROAD IN DRAWING THESE PLANS UP IF WE WERE GOING TO BE SCRUTINIZED. AND SECTION TWO OF THE VOTING RIGHTS ACT WHICH GIVES PRIVATE CITIZENS THE AUTHORITY TO SUE IF YOU THINK THE PLAN IS DISCRIMINATORY IN PURPOSE AND EFFECT THE RIGHT TO SUE A GOVERNMENTAL ENTITY.
THE VIABILITY OF SECTION TWO ENFORCEMENT WAS RECENTLY CALLED INTO SOME QUESTION BY RECENT SUPREME COURT CASE THAT HELD THAT SECTION 2 PLAINTIFFS IN THE CASE THAT SHOWN SOME EVIDENCE WAS INTENDED TO HAVE SOME NEGATIVE EFFECT ON MINORITY VOTING RIGHTS AND NOT SUCH A DEGREE THAT THE SUPREME COURT FELT THAT IT WARRANTED VACATING THAT PLAN AND ORDERING A NEW PLAN. THAT LEAVES THE STANDARD SOMEWHAT AMBIGUOUS AT THIS POINT AS TO WHAT -- WHAT WOULD THE STANDARD BE UNDER THE SECTION 2.
>> JUDGE BECERRA: I WILL CHIME IN ONE MORE SECOND AS YOU MOVE THROUGH THIS. WE ALSO HAVE, AS YOU WELL KNOW, A VERY DYNAMIC TEXAS STATE UNIVERSITY, VERY ACTIVE, VERY VOCAL. YOU CAN UNIFY THEM IN SOME UNIQUE WAY. AND AS WE WERE DISCUSSING IN A PREVIOUS AGENDA ITEM, IT IS OFFICIALLY A HISPANIC SERVING INSTITUTION. WILL BE THAT -- CRYSTAL BAWLING THIS, OF COURSE, ATTEMPT TO PUT THE ENTIRE UNIVERSITY IN ONE PRECINCT. IS THAT GOING TO BE A GOAL? OR WILL IT BE -- WHAT -- AGAIN, THIS IS JUST CRYSTAL BALL.
>> I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE POPULATION OR THE STUDENT HEAD COUNT IS, BUT I UNDERSTAND IT IS OVER 35,000 OR SO.
>> 38,900. >> HARD TO SWALLOW 38,000 PEOPLE IN A SINGLE PRECINCT WITHOUT.
>> THE RIPPLES. >> OTHER GOVERNMENT FORCES THAT HAVE TO BE TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT. AND IT -- THE DYNAMIC OF REDISTRICTING THAT I THINK IS SOMEWHAT PERVERSE AND I HAVE
BEEN DOING THIS SINCE '78. >> JUDGE BECERRA: JUST A FEW
WEEKS. >> IS THAT THE URBAN CENTERS GET MOST OF THE CONCENTRATION BECAUSE THIS IS WHERE THE POPULATION IS. AND IN ORDER TO AVOID THROWING OTHER GOVERNMENTAL FUNCTIONS TO THE WIND.
ALTHOUGH ROAD MILEAGE IS IMPORTANT TO THE COMMISSIONERS AND THEIR CONSTITUENTS TO ACCESS TO MARKETS AND EASE OF TRANSPORTATION WITHIN THE COMMUNITY.
ROADS DON'T VOTE PUSH COMES TO SHOVE, POPULTION WILL BE THE
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DRIVER. POPULATION OF STUDENT HOUSING NEAR THE CAMPUS MIGHT BE SUBJECT TO BEING ABSORBED BUT STUDENT HOUSING IS LIKE ETHIC. SPREAD OVER YOUR COMMUNITY PROBABLY. AND HOW TO IDENTIFY.WE KNOW HOW MANY STUDENT ARE IN ATTENDANCE, BUT DON'T KNOW OTHER THAN SUPERFICIALLY BY AGE IS THAT POCKET OF POPULATION
STUDENT OR GENERAL POPULATION. >> JUDGE BECERRA: THERE ARE
SOME. >> DORMS AND EVERYTHING.
>> JUDGE BECERRA: IDENTIFIERS. MIDRISE AFTER MIDRISE AFTER M MIDRISE, STUD HOUSING. I WONDER HOW THAT WILL UNFOLD.
OF COURSE THEY CAN DIVERSE TIE BUT NEVERTHELESS, CLEAR SPACES
THAT ARE STUDENT HOUSING. >> THAT IS PART OF THE -- THE.
THIS WORK -- SOME SCIENCE, SOME DRIVEN BY CASE LAW, SOME OF IT BY NUMBER CRUNCHING AND A LOT OF IT IS ART AND HOW DO YOU DRAW THOSE LINES TO BALANCE THOSE CONTESTING CONCERNS THAT REQUIRES TRANSPARENCY AND INTERFACE WITH COMMUNITY OF INTEREST. I AM WILLING TO SIT DOWN WITH THE SOFTWARE AND COMPUTER AND TRY DIFFERENT SCENARIOS OUT IN MY EXPERIENCE, YOU CAN DO THATED A INFINITUM.
YOU CAN MAKE DECISIONS WHAT WILL WORK AND PALABLE AND ACHIEVABLE AND DOWN THE ROAD. WE DON'T KNOW WHERE OUR PRIMARY WILL BE AT THIS POINT. WE ARE TOLD DIFFERENT THINGS BY DIFFERENT MEMBER. THERE IS SOME THOUGHT THAT THE LEGISLATURE WILL PASS SOMETHING VERY QUICKLY.
HOPING TO RETAIN THE MARCH PRIMARY FORMAT, BUT WE HEAR OTHER REPORTS MAY TAKE LONGER AND MAY BE MAY AT THE EARLIEST AND LATER. UNTIL WE HAVE A CALENDAR, I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH TIME WE HAVE IN ALL DUE RESPECT UNTIL YOU PUT IT ON PAPER AND CRUNCH THE DATA AND SEE HOW MUCH WORK YOU HAVE TO HAVE, IT IS HARD AND YOU ALMOST HAVE TO GET YOUR HANDS AROUND IT AND WE HAVE JUST GOTTEN WITH THE INTERNAL ISSUES WITH THE SOFTWARE, WHERE I FEEL COMFORTABLE IN RELEASING
THE INITIAL ANALYSIS. >> WALT SMITH: SIR, OUT OF CURES OS FEE LOOKING AT THE MAP, THE ONLY NONMUNICIPAL BOUNDARY IS BELLE TE RRA. A REASON THEY WERE INCLUDED
OTHER THAN A MUNICIPALITY. >> THOSE ARE LABELS THAT COME WHY THE CENSUS. I DON'T KNOW WHAT MAP YOU ARE
LOOKING AT. >> WALT SMITH: ALL HAVE THE SAME THING. NOT A COMMUNITY, BUT JUST A DEVELOPMENT IN MY PRECINCT IS THE REASON I AM ASKING.
ALL THE REST ARE MUNICIPALITIES OF SOME TYPE.
>> I REALLY DON'T KNOW. THE CENSUS BUREAU PROVIDE US WHAT WE CALL PLACE DATA AND WE ASKED THE COMPUTER TO HIGHLIGHT THE PLACES AND BELL TERRA MAY BE A SINGLE ZIP CODE OR
SOMETHING LIKE THAT. >> OKAY, THANK YOU.
>> I WILL SAY LOOKING AT THE PLAN THAT EXISTS NOW, IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE THE PRIOR -- AND, AGAIN, ON THE VOTING PRECINCTS. THAT IS FOLLOWING PAGE 17 OF THE MAP. WE HAVE PUT IN WHAT WE HAVE AS YOUR VOTING DISTRICTS. WE WILL TRY TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE VOTING BOXES THAT KEEP THE RESIDENTS OF MUNICIPALITIES SEPARATE FROM REAL VOTERS OUTSIDE THE JURISDICTION OF THE CITY. SO THAT THE ELECTIONS ADMINISTRATOR HAS BEEN EASIER TIME OF IDENTIFYING WHO IS ELIGIBLE TO VOTE IN THOSE CITY ELECTIONS.
IT LOOKS LIKE A LOT OF THE MUNICIPALITIES WERE DIVIDED POSSIBLY WITHOUT THAT BEING DONE.
I DIDN'T DO THE WORK TEN YEARS AGO AND I REALLY DON'T HAVE DETAILED MAPS OF HOW THAT WAS DONE.
BUT WE WILL BE GIVING SOME ATTENTION TO THAT.
ONCE WE DO THE COMMISSIONERS' PRECINCTS.
WE TURN TO THE VOTING BOXES. EVEN THOUGH YOU MAY HAVE UNIFIED VOTING, YOU STILL HAVE TO HAVE VOTING BOX SO AS WHEN YOU GO INTO A UNIFIED POLLING PLACE AND HAND THEM YOUR CARD, THEY KNOW WHAT BALLOTS TO PULL UP.
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SO YOU VOTE FOR THE PEOPLE THAT YOU ARE ELIGIBLE TO VOTE FOR.AND THAT WOULD BE -- YOU CAN ONLY HAVE TERRITORY IN ONE VOTING BOX OF A SINGLE JP, COMMISSIONER, STATE REP, CONGRESSMAN, STATE BOARD OF EDUCATION.
WE NO LONGER HAVE THE DUTY FOR CITIES OVER 12,000, WE TRY TO KEEP CITY AND URBAN AND RURAL AND CITY VOTER SEPARATED SO IT HELPS WITH ELECTION ADMINISTRATION.
NOW ONE THING THAT IS A LITTLE BIT SENSITIVE.
AND I WANT TO RAISE IT SO YOU ARE AWARE OF IT WE CAN MERGE THE POLL LIST WITH THE CENSUS BLOCK DATA SO WHEN WE MOVE THE CENSUS BLOCK, YOU GENERATE A LIST OF VOTERS AND RELIEVE THE ELECTION ADMINISTRATORS TO DO THE WORK INTERNALLY SOMEHOW OR TO DO IT MANUALLY WHICH IS GETTING A MAP AND EYEBALLING IT AND MOVING IT TO PEOPLE ONE BY ONE.
THE SENSITIVE PART OF THAT IS YOU WILL NEED TO IDENTIFY THE VOTERS NOT NECESSARILY BY NAME BUT PROBABLY BY REGISTRATION NUMBERS. THERE IS SOME CONCERN OF PRIVACY ISSUES. THAT BEING SAID, THE CENSUS BUREAU HAS TAKEN THE STEP. AND I WANT YOU TO BE AWARE OF IT BECAUSE IT PROBABLY WILL COME UP AT THE ELECTION BOX LEVEL. WE HAVE TO SIZE ELECTION PRECINCTS BY STATE LAW THAT SAYS YOU CAN'T HAVE MORE THAN 5,000 REGISTERED VOTERS IN A BOX AT THAT LEVEL, THE CENSUS BUREAU NOW BELIEVES WITH BIG COMPUTER, BIG DATA,LE BE AVAILABLE TO TAKE THE POLL LIST AND VOTER RECORDS, TAKE OTHER AVAILABLE LISTS AND IDENTIFY VOTERS BY WHICH PRIMARY THEY VOTE IN, FOR EXAMPLE, AND THEY CAN SPECIFICALLY TARGET INDIVIDUAL VOTERS. THE CENSUS BUREAU FEELS THAT IS NOT BE APPROPRIATE USE OF THE CENSUS BUREAU.
THE CENSUS DATA. THEY HAVE MASKED SOME OF THE DATA SO WHEN YOU CLICK ON A CENSUS BLOCK, IT MAY NOT BE ACTUALLY SHOWING YOU WHAT POPULATION IS IN THAT SPECIFIC BLOCK. MAY BE SHOWING YOU POPULATION NEARBY. AND NOT NECESSARILY ADJACENT.
I THINK IT IS MAD CONTINUES TO DO THAT AND THAT IS WHAT THEY HAVE DONE AND THEY HAVE GOT THE DATA -- THE ONLY DATA WE HAVE TO WORK WITH IS THE CENSUS D DATA.
I AM GOING TO HEAR FROM PEOPLE THAT THERE ARE 400 PEOPLE IN THAT CENSUS BLOCK AND REALLY NOT EVERYBODY THERE.
IT IS VACANT LAND AND I CAN CALL UP AN AERIAL MAP -- THE MOST COMMON AERIAL MAP AND NO STRUCTURES VISIBILITY IN THAT CENSUS BLOCK. I AM JUST TELLING THAT YOU MAY COME UP. AND THE DATA THAT WE HAVE IS THE DATA THAT THE COURTS AC ACCEPT, AND SO WE ARE GOING TO BE USING THE CENSUS DATA AS IT EXISTS.
AND I KNOW THAT IS A -- A ISSUE OF CONSTERNATION AND THAT COULD COME UP. THAT BEING SAID, I DON'T THINK THAT -- OTHER LEVELS AT THE MACRO LEVEL, THE NUMBER DISCREPANCY IS INSIGNIFICANT. BUT AS YOU GET DOWN TO SOME CENSUS BLOCKS, YOU HAVE YOU TO BE AT LEAST 100 PEOPLE IN A VOTING BLOCK AND SMALLER IF NECESSARY TO MAKE ALL THOSE LINES WORK. SOMETIMES AT THAT LEVEL YOU ARE BACK TO SMALL OFFICES AND SAY THAT THAT DATA DOESN'T MAKE SENSE. NOTHING IN THAT VOTING BOX BUT IT SAYS 300 PEOPLE THERE. I AM A JUST SAYING THERE MAY BE A TIME WHERE THAT MAY BE OF ISSUE YOU AND I WANT YOU TO UNDERSTAND IT IS NOT A MISTAKE BUT DELIBERATE TO PROTECT PEOPLE'S POLICIES. JUDGE YOU JUDGE COMMISSIONERS, AT HIS PAUSING POINT, ANY COMMISSIONERS HAVE ANY
QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS. >> WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO GOING FORWARD IS WORK WITH YOUR COMMISSION, AND DO SOMETHING SIMILAR OF AN EXPLANATION OF THE PROCESS AND GET OUR HANDS AROUND SOME OF THE DATA. AND IF THERE ARE IDEAS.
ONE OF THE THINGS WE ASKED YOU TO CONSIDER IS ADOPTING A SET
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OF CRITERIA. THEY MAKE COMMON SENSE RULES AND I DON'T KNOW, MARK, IF YOU ADOPTED THAT CRITERIA OR NOT.THE CRITERIA ARE ESTABLISHED BENCHMARKS SUCH AS CONTINUITY, CONTIGUOUS, PROTECTING COMMUNION OF INTEREST.
THOSE SORTS OF THINGS. AND ALSO TEN YEARS AGO WE GOT ALL SORTS FOR CONSIDERATION FROM OUTSIDE CITIZENS GROUPS. AND A LOT OF THAT WAS DONE IN CRUDE -- I SAY "CRUDE" BUT HAND DRAWN ON A MAP AND REQUIRED AN ENORMOUS AMOUNT TIME TO REPLICATE THOSE MAPS CORRECTLY.
WE WERE GIVEN XCEL SPREAD SHEETS.
AND WE HAD ALL KIND OF DISCREPANCIES IN THAT LIST WHETHER NEGATIVE ERRORS. AND HE COULDN'T GET OUR NUMBERS TO MATCH THE NUMBER THAT THE PROPONENTS OF THE PLAN SUGGESTED THEIR PLAN WOULD PRODUCE.
WE RECOMMEND ANYBODY TO SUBMIT A PLAN DO IT IN A GIS READABLE FORMAT. THE SOFTWARE IS OUT THERE FREE OF CHARGE AND I DON'T THINK IT IS AN UNDUE BURDEN.
OUR FEE IS TO PRODUCE THREE ALTERNATIVE PLANS OR AS MANY PLANS AS YOU WANT US TO DRAW, BUT WE CHARGE YOU EXTRA FOR ANYTHING MORE THAN THREE. IF YOU HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO THE ANALYSIS IN HOUSE, THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING THAT YOU MIGHT WANT TO CONSIDER HAVING DONE, BUT WE ARE ALWAYS -- SINCE WE ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE RESULT, WE ARE GOING TO WANT TO REVIEW YOU IT AND MAKE SURE THAT WE AGREE BASICALLY.
THAT BEING SAID, THROW OUT SOME OF THE ISSUES THAT WILL COME UP SO YOU WILL BE AWARE OF IT.
>> MAYBE I SHOULD COMMENT WHAT I THINK THE PROTOCOL IS AND SAY THIS IN FRONT F YOU ALL SO WE CAN HAVE A CONVERSATION IF NECESSARY, BUT THE RAC, THE COMMISSION, HAS BEEN TOLD THAT IT CAN APPROACH OUR GIS MAPPING PERSONS, STEVE FLOYD, BY WAY OF THE TWO-PARTY CHAIRS ACTING TOGETHER.
AND THAT STEVE FLOYD WILL THEN PRODUCE -- I ASSUME A COUPLE OF MAPS THAT WILL BE PROPOSED BASED ON THE INTERACTION ES WITH THOSE TWO PARTY CHAIRS THAT ARE MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION. AND I THINK THEN YOU WILL GET -- UNLIKELY YOU WILL GET MORE THAN THREE.
AND WE HAVE NOT INDICATED HOW MUCH YOUR FIRM WOULD INTERACT WITH THE COMMISSION AND WE HAVE BUILT INTO THAT PLAN.
I KNOW YOU SAID THAT SOME INTERACTION IS ACCEPTABLE AND DESIRED AND WE CAN SET THAT UP. BUT AS FAR AS THE MAPS GO, INTERACT WITH STEVE FLOYD AND MY OFFICE AND HELP COORDINATE WITH STEVE FLOYD. IS THAT SATISFACTORY TO THE COURT? JUDGE BECERRA SOUNDS GOOD.
WHAT WE ARE LOOKING FOR BOTH MR. PARKS AND DR. DRAHAN.
THE TWO COACHES RIGHT NOW AND TRULY THE PERFECT TIME.
FEEL BAD ABOUT LAST NIGHT. THAT WASN'T A SETTING FOR COMMENTS. BUT IF THE CHAIRS HERE WANT TO CONTRIBUTE IN SOME TYPE OF WAY AFTER THIS PRESENTATION, I OPEN IT TO YOU BECAUSE WE ALL KNOW HOW IMPORTANT THIS IS TO ALL OF NEWS THIS COMMUNITY. I CAN SAY I AM COUNTYWIDE, I DON'T CARE. WHATEVER THE LINES, I WILL BE FINE. NO, WE NEED TO HIT THAT GRANULAR PIECE. THE TWO CO-CHAIRS ONCE THE PRESENTER IS DONE, I OFFER YOU THE PODIUM TO WEIGH IN AND COORDINATE BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT TO OVERBURDEN THEM.
BUT AT THE SAME TIME, WEIGH WANT YOUR IDEAS TEASED OUT TO MAKE SENSE WHAT DO YOU THINK OF THIS.
>> ON MANY OCCASIONS, PEOPLE HAVE CONCEPTUALIZE IDEAS THAT ONCE WE WORK WITH THEM AND PROVE TO NOT BE FEASIBLE EITHER MATHEMATICALLY OR LEGALLY OR WHATEVER BUT EVERYBODY SHOULD HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO EXPLORE THOSE OPTIONS AND IF THAT IS DONE LOCALLY AND A LEGAL OVERSIGHT OPINION IF THE PLAN IS LEGALLY FEASIBLE OR NOT, THAT'S FINE.
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I WORKED WITH COMMISSIONS AND COMMITTEES BEFORE AND BY AND LARGE, THAT WORKED OUT WELL. THERE HAVE BEEN OCCASIONS WHERE THE LOUDEST VOICE OF THE COMMITTEE SEEKS TO PREVAIL AND THAT GENERALLY DOESN'T WORK WELL WITH THE GOVERNMENTAL BODY. ONLY THE COMMISSIONERS COURT IT PRODUCE A PLAN. IT IS AN ADVISORY COMMITTEEONLY. >> JUDGE BECERRA: THANK YOU FOR THE REMINDER, AND I WANT TO REITERATE WHAT HE SAID.
THIS COMMISSION WE CREATED AS A COMMISSIONERS COURT TO HELP WITH THE MAPPING AND REDI REDISTRICTING IS AN ADVISORY CAPACITY BUT THE RESPONSIBILITY TO VOTE ON THE FINAL MAPS LIES SQUARELY ON THIS BODY IN THE COMMISSIONERS COURT.
WE WANT YOUR ADVICE, SUGGESTION AND WANT TO YOU DO THE LEGWORK, BUT SQUARELY THE DECISION OF THE COURT.
>> THAT'S ALL I GENERALLY HAVES IN EVERYONE HAS QUESTIONS.
>> DEBBIE INGALSBE: I DON'T BELIEVE SO AND MY QUESTION AND I THINK YOU ANSWERED IT MR. BASS, WHAT IS THE NEXT STEP AFTER WE ADOPT THESE FINDINGS. YOU KNOW WHAT IS IT THAT WILL
HAPPEN. >> ON THE AGENDA IS TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE REDISTRICTING. IN EXCESS OF 10% TO ACT ON IT TODAY OR TAKE IT UNDER ADVISEMENT AND ACT ON IT SOON.
NOT SOMETHING THAT HAS TO BE DONE IMMEDIATELY, BUT I THINK WE -- WE NEED TO MOVE FORWARD AND THE SOMETIME UNKNOWN HOW MUCH TIME WE HAVE INCUMBENT ON US TO MOVE FORWARD.
I HAVE OTHER CLIENTS AND MY TIME HAS TO BE TAKEN INTO SOME ACCOUNT. I AM AVAILABLE ON A REASONABLE BASIS TO CONSULT WITH THE COURT AND THE COMMISSION AND CAN DO THAT REMOTELY OR VIA VIRTUAL MEETINGS.
I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY RELATIVELY SOON TO START CRUNCHING THE NUMBERS. I CAN DO PLAINS THAT I THINK WILL WORK. I AM NOT FAMILIAR WITH YOUR COMMUNITY. I NEED MORE GUIDANCE THAN THAT.
I AM NOT GOING TO ATTEMPT TO CRAM ANYTHING DOWN YOUR THROAT.
NOT WHAT I BELIEVE IN AND WHAT I DO.
I WANT YOUR INPUT AND COMMISSION'S INPUT IF POSSIBLE.
>> JUDGE BECERRA: THAT IS PERFECT BECAUSE THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING THAT. MR. KENNEDY.
>> THAT DID MAKE YOUR BACK-UP AND DRAFT FORM AND PRISON POPULATION. I BELIEVE, BOB, MY BRIEF CONVERSATIONS WITH YOU INDICATED THEY COULD TAKE THAT OFF SINCE DON'T HAVE A SIGNIFICANT PRISON POPULATION.
>> 9/10 OF 1% DIFFERENCE. 522 PEOPLE WHO WON'T BE VOTING IF YOU DECIDE TO LEAVE THEM IN PROBABLY -- 500 VOTES WON'T CHANGE THE CLOSE ELECTION BUT A CLOSE ELECTION COULD COME DOWN TO TWO VOTES. POTENTIALLY, WHO KNOWS.
MOST COUNTIES OPT TO TAKE THE PRISON POPULATION OUT.
>> THEY ARE INELIGIBLE TO VOTE BUT OUR JAIL POPULATION, THOSE NUMBERS ARE IN WHICH SOME WILL BE ELIGIBLE TO VOTE THERE.
>> IN THE COUNTY JAIL. ONLY THE STATE OR FEDERAL PRISON OUT ON THE HIGHWAY THAT IS BEING EXCLUDED.
>> JUDGE BECERRA: JUST TO CLARIFY FOR OUR COUNTY PUBLIC, OUR COUNTY JAIL IS BEING HELD IN THE ACCOUNT COUNT.
THE STATE FACILITY BEING EXCLUDED BECAUSE THOSE FOLKS ARE IN A FELLOW STATE AND THEY CAN'T VOTE.
BUT COUNTY JAIL, WHERE YOU POINTED OUT ARE -- COULD BE FELONS WHO ARE NOT ELIGIBLE TO VOTE IN YOUR COUNTY JAIL AND I AM SURE THERE ARE BUT A SIGNIFICANT POPULATION BECAUSE THEY HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO POST BOND AND HAVEN'T LOST THEIR
ABILITY TO VOTE. >> JUDGE BECERRA: COMMISSIONERS, ARE YOU OKAY THE WAY IT STANDS?
>> TO BE CLEAR THE DRAFT IN THE BACKUP.
LEAVE SECTION ONE IN AND TAKE SECTION TWO OUT.
AND SO WHAT WE WILL DO IF THE COURT VOTES ON THIS TODAY CLEAN THIS UP AND PROVIDE FOR SIGNATURE.
>> JUDGE BECERRA: SECTION ONE IS THE COUNTY JAIL, MR. KEN KENNEDY. AND SECTION TWO IN THE FEDERAL
CASE. >> ONE IS EXCLUDING AND ONE IS
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INCLUDING. >> JUDGE BECERRA: ARE WE GOOD
WITH THAT. >> DEBBIE INGALSBE: WE HAVE A MOTION ALREADY JUDGE. AND WITH THAT CLARIFICATION.
I WOULD INCLUDE THAT IN THE MOTION.
>> JUDGE BECERRA: THE MOTION WILL INCLUDE TO LEAVE SECTION
ONE IN AND SECTION TWO OUT. >> DEBBIE INGALSBE: CORRECT.
>> JUDGE BECERRA: THAT I JUST DESCRIBED.
>> WHAT IS THE NEXT STEP AS FAR AS THE TIMELINE GOES? WHEN WILL THE COMMISSION CONVENIENT AND.
>> THE DRAFT I SAW LAST NIGHT, THERE IS A MEETING AVAILABLE AVAIL -- I AM NOT AVAILABLE BUT TH COMMISSION COULD MEET.
>> I HAVEN'T SEEN THAT TIMELINE.
>> THERE WAS NO TIME. MY SUGGESTION IS THAT YOU -- WITH A LARGE GROUP, YOU PROBABLY SHOULD BOOK MORE THAN A WEEK OUT IN TERMS OF SETTING UP MEETINGS IF YOU WANT
EVERYONE TO ATTENDS. >> THERE IS A BONA FIDE QUESTION AS TO WHETHER OR NOT ADVISORY COMMITTEES OR GOVERNMENT BODIES NEED TO APPLY WITH THE OPEN MEETINGS ACT IN THE INTEREST OF PUBLIC TRANSPARENCY, I RECOMMEND THAT THOSE COMMITTEES MEET AFTER POSTING BECAUSE THEY ARE GOING TO BE MAKING A RECOMMENDATION THAT COULD RESULT IN
GOVERNMENTAL ACTION. >> JUDGE BECERRA: THAT'S RIGHT. AND WE ARE SEEKING -- AS A BODY WE ARE SEEKING THAT TRANSPARENCY AND WE DO ASK THAT WE FOLLOW THAT OPEN MEETING EFFORT.
ABSOLUTELY. >> I WILL TELL YOU IN SOME OF THE COMMENTS IF PROPOSED MAPS WILL BE AVAILABLE ONLINE.
WE DO HAVE IN THE SOFTWARE SOME ABILITY TO DO THAT.
I WILL BE CANDID AT THIS POINT, SCRAMBLING JUST TO GET THE D DATA. HOW FLEXIBLE THAT PUBLICATION PART OF THAT PACKAGE IS. I HAVEN'T TESTED IT OUT AND LIKE WHAT WE HAVE DONE ON THIS SCREEN JUDGE JUDGE KIM FOR EFFORTS, ON THE LANDING REDISTRICTING AND E-MAIL TO IDENTIFY YOUR THOUGHTS AND CONCERNS AND A PIECE THAT MAYBE OUR CO-CHAIRS WILL HAVE ACCESS TO.
>> I WANT TO STRESS THAT THE RIGHT TO VOTE IS ONE OF OUR MOST PRECIOUS RIGHTS. WITHOUT THAT ONE OF THE OTHER MYTHS AND TALKING POINTS FALL ON THIN ICE.
SO THE RIGHT TO VOTE IS VERY PRESSURE FOR ME.
I WORKED MY EN -- PRECIOUS FOR ME.
I WORKED MY ENTIRE CAREER TO HAVE THE RIGHT TO VOTE.
I WANT YOU TO KNOW I TAKE THAT WORK SERIOUSLY AND WORK WITH YOU AND ALL OF THE MEMBERS OF YOUR COMMISSION AS MUCH AS WE CAN. IF ANYBODY HAS CONCERNS IF THEY
EXPRESS TO ME. >> JUDGE BECERRA: COMMISSIONER
SHELL. >> LON SHELL: THE OFFICE WILL FACILITATE THE MEETINGS BEING POSTED?
>> THAT WAS A POINT OF CLARIFICATION THINK THAT WANTED TO MAKE. WE DID NOT THROUGH THE CHARTERS SUBJECT THE RAC TO OPEN MEETINGS BECAUSE IT WAS AN ADVISORY COMMITTEE. AND WE DO ASK -- TECHNICAL REASONS FOR NOT SUBJECTING THEM TO THE OPEN MEETINGS ABILITY IN ITS TOTALITY AND A 24-HOUR BETWEEN MEETINGS AND WORK SESSIONS OF COMMUNITY MEETINGS OF WHICH THERE WILL BE FOUR AND WORK SESSIONS ARE NOT NECESSARILY AN OPEN MEETING THAT WILL BE OPEN TO THE PU PUBLIC, BUT THEY WILL BE RECORDED. THERE IS SOME BALANCE IN THERE IF THE COURT WISHES TO AMEND THE CHARTER AND MODIFY IN SOME WAY AND WILL BE BROUGHT FOR CONSIDERATION.
TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, COMMISSIONER.
I -- JANICE AND I WILL HELP COORDINATE THE NOTICES.
>> I WILL SAY THAT THE WORKSHOP SESSIONS ARE SOMETIMES LAB LABOROUS, TIME CONSUMING AND SOMETIMES FRUITFUL AND SOMETIMES FRUITLESS. YOU SOMETIMES WORK FOR QUITE A WHILE TO MAKE A PLAN WORK AND TO REALIZE IT IS A BOXED CANYON AND NO WAY TO MAKE IT WORK. THAT IS -- IT JUST TAKES PRETTY TEDIOUS AND HUNTING FOR THE BLOCKS THAT FIT INTO THE PU PUZZLE. LIKE BUILDING A JESUS SAW
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PUZZLE IN REVERSE. JUDGE JUDGE THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS. .> THE AMERICAN WAY AND THE MORE I INTERACT WITH YOU, THE MORE COMFORTABLE I FEEL -- WHEN WE VOTED FOR YOU I DIDN'T KNOW WHO YOU WERE. I HAD MY COLLEAGUES LEAD THE WAY. OKAY, I SUPPORT YOUR RESEARCH BECAUSE I HAD NO IDEA. MEETING YOU TODAY HAS HELPED ME TO FEEL MORE COMFORTABLE WITH THE PROCESS ALREADY.AND SO THAT IS WHAT I WANT TO EXTEND TO OUR COMMUNITY IS THAT ACCESS. DOESN'T HAVE TO BE DIRECTLY TO YOU, BUT STILL ACCESS THROUGH THIS COMMISSION.
>> WELL, LET ME SAY AGAIN AND SOME THE COMMENTS THAT APPEAR TO BE TO THE OBSERVER DUE TO THIS COURT.
THE DELAY DUE TO TECHNICAL DIFFICULTIES.
NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS COURT. >> JUDGE BECERRA: THANK YOU, SIR. COMMISSIONERS, ANYTHING ELSE?
>> I APPRECIATE YOUR WHY YOUR TIME AND THE LEGISLATIVE YOU WERE FORWARD IN THE PRESENTATION YOU GAVE.
FOR THOSE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO DON'T KNOW, ALLISON, BASS, MAGEE, LLP IS ACTUALLY THE GENERAL COUNSEL FOR THE TEXAS ASSOCIATION OF COUNTIES AND THE WORK THEY DO HERE IS NOT ONLY HERE BUT IN COUNTIES ALL OVER THE STATE AND I KNOW THEY WILL DO A GOOD JOB. THAT BEING THE CASE, EVEN THOUGH YOU HAVE THE OTHER CLIENTS INCLUDING TAC.
AND YOU SAID YOU HAVE TO BE COGNIZANT OF THAT.
WE ARE GOING TO BE THE BEST CLIENT AND SPEND MORE TIME WITH
US THAN THEM. >> JUDGE BECERRA: YOU LOVE US MORE.
>> THE LARGER COUNTIES THAT ARE GROWING LIKE YOU ARE ARE MORE NUMEROUS THAN YOU MIGHT EXPECT. AND WE HAVE TRADITIONALLY DONE MORE RURAL COUNTIES THAN URBAN. THIS CYCLE A HEAVIER OF THE URBAN COUNTIES. MORE COMPLEX AND MORE VOCAL INTEREST GROUPS TO CONTEND W WITH.
SO WE SPEND MORE TIME ON THEM OUT OF NECESSITY BUT AT THE SAME TIME, A BIG STATE. HARD TO TRAVEL ALL OVER IT AND I BEG YOUR UNDERSTAND GOING YOU HAVE A MEETING DATE YOU WOULD LIKE TO SET, I WOULD LIKE TO ATTEND WHEN I CAN BUT THERE ARE TIMES I WON'T BE ABLE TO BUT HOPEFULLY ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS REMOTELY BY PHONE OR SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINES JUNZ JUDGE I ECHO THE PRESENTATION AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND THANK YOU FOR THE CANDIDNESS OF THE PROCESS.
BEFORE WE VOTE, YOU WANT TO ASK THE TWO CO-CHAIRS IF THEY WOULDN'T MIND. TO WRAP THIS AGENDA ITEM UP, APPROACH THE PODIUM -- -- I AM PERSONALLY INTERESTED -- IF WE CAN AGREE ON A DATE THAT MEETS THAT CAN MAKE SENSE CAN YOU FOR ONE SECOND BEFORE WE CALL THE VOTE TO TALK ON THIS AGENDA ITEMS. TELL US WHAT YOUR PLANS ARE SO GENERAL COUNSEL OF WHAT YOU BOTH ARE DOING AS THE CO-C CO-CHAIRS. THANK YOU BOTH.
HE GENUINELY APPRECIATE IT. STATE YOUR NAME.
>> I AM BOB CLARKS AND THE CHAIRMAN OF THE REPUBLICAN PARTY IN HAYS COUNTY AND CO-CHAIR OF THIS COMMITTEE WITH MY DISTINGUISHED ASSOCIATE HERE.
AND MR. BASS, WHERE DID YOU GO? HE -- MR. BASS TOOK THE WORDS RIGHT OUT OF MY MOUTH. THERE IS NO SENSE AND HAVEN'T BEEN ANY SENSE OF RUNNING A RACE BEFORE WE KNOW EXACTLY WHERE WE ARE GOING AND MR. BASS INDICATED.
HE HAS THE DATA FROM THE CENSUS BUREAU.
HE HAS THE BLOCK. WITH THE AUTHORITY OF THE COURT ARE HE CAN GO FORWARD AND PRODUCE SOME MAPS FOR US TO LOOK AT WHICH IS STEP ONE IN THE PROCESS.
EVERYTHING ELSE IS JUST FLUFF IDEAL WE HAVE HARD DATA TO LOOK AT. UNTIL WE GET THAT WHICH LOOKS LIKE IT IS COMING PRETTY QUICK, I AM JUST DELIGHTED TO MEET WITH MY DISTINGUISHED COLLEAGUE HERE AND START THIS PROCESS ON THE TIME FRAME THAT IS SET UP AND MAKE SURE THAT IT HAPPENS -- AND HAPPENS WELL. MY PLEDGE IS TO MAKE THIS A SMOOTH PROCESS. TO MAKE IT AN ALL-INCLUSIVE PROCESS. AND BY ALL MEANS, TO PROTECT THE VOTE OF EVERY CITIZEN IN HAYS COUNTY.
THAT IS WHAT I AM BUILT ON. >> JUDGE BECERRA: THANK YOU FOR YOUR WILLINGNESS TO SERVE AND FOR YOUR COMMENTS.
WOULD YOU LIKE TO ADD ANYTHING? >> SURE.
>> JUDGE BECERRA: THEN WE WILL CALL A VOTE.
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>> WELL, MR. ALISON, I WANT TO THANK YOU --
>> DEBBIE INGALSBE: BASS. >> THANK YOU FOR THE INFORMATION THAT YOU PROVIDED. IT GAVE US ALL SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT IN TERMS OF THIS PROCESS.
I WANT TO ENCOURAGE, AGAIN, AND JUST REITERATE THE IMPORTANCE OF THE PUBLIC INPUT AND THE TRANSPARENCY IN THIS PROCESS.
WHILE MANY OF US, INCLUDING THIS GUY WHO IS A UNIVERSITY PROFESSOR IS RELYING ON DATA, IT IS ALSO IMPORTANT TO HEAR FROM OUR COMMUNITIES. AND IT IS IMPORTANT TO SET THE STAGE AROUND THIS AS A CONVERSATION.
AND SO I WANT TO ENCOURAGE US TO CONTINUE TO CONSIDER THAT AS A FRAMEWORK HERE TOO. AND I ALSO WANT TO SUGGEST THAT IT MIGHT BE EASY IN THIS PROCESS BECAUSE THERE WILL ULTIMATELY BE A VOTE AND THAT THERE WILL BE COMMISSIONERS AND THE COURT WILL BE -- AND THE JUDGE WILL BE OBVIOUSLY THE VOTING BODY. TO DIMINISH THE IMPORTANCE OF THE PROCESS THROUGHOUT, THAT THE IDEA THAT IS ULTIMATELY COMES DOWN TO A VOTE IS VERY SIMPLIFIED AROUND HOW THIS PROCESS IS STRUCTURED. LET'S NOT DISCOUNT THAT WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO BUILD FAITH AROUND THIS PROCEEDTURE TO BE INTENTIONAL OF PEOPLE INVOLVED IN THE PROCESS PARTICULARLY THE ADVISORY COMMISSION AND HEARING WITH THE COMMUNITY, WALKING WITH THE CONSULTANTS. HEARING THE COMMISSIONERS SPEAK TO THEIR PREFERENCES AND THOUGHTS.
THIS HAS A POTENTIAL FOR BEING A VERY COMMUNITY AND CONSTRUCTIVE PROCESS. SO THAT WOULD BE MY HOPE.
AND I AM LOOKING FORWARD TO SEEING HOW THAT PLAYS OUT.
>> JUDGE BECERRA: THANK YOU. AND THANK YOU BOTH AGAIN TO HELP SCHEDULE THE NEXT MEETING -- OR FIRST MEETING, JANICE JONES WILL. ANY COMMENT OR QUESTIONS BEFORE WE CALL THE VOTE. PLEASE CALL THE ROLL, DR.
CARDENAS. >> DEBBIE INGALSBE: YES.
>> MARK JONES: YES. >> LON SHELL: YES.
>> WALT SMITH: YES. >> JUDGE BECERRA: YES.
WHAT WE CAN DO NOW IS TAKE A -- TAKE A SHORT RECESS BECAUSE WE HAVE A 1:00 SCHEDULED FOR OUR BUDGET.
AND WE WILL BUMP INTO THAT. TAKE A RECESS UNTIL 1:00.
[53. 1:00 p.m.- Hold a final public hearing on the FY 2022 Hays County Proposed Budget.]
FROM A SHORT RECESS WHICH ALLOWED US TO LAND SQUARELY AT1:00 FOR AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 53. >> MS. CARDENAS: NUMBER 53, HOLD A FINAL PUBLIC HEARING ON THE FC 2022 HAYS COUNTY
PROPOSED BUDGET. >> JUDGE BECERRA: PUBLIC HEARING. NOW I WILL OPEN FOR A PUBLIC HEARING. THIS IS THE SPACE IN TIME WHERE IF ANYONE WANTS TO SPEAK ABOUT THE PUBLIC HEARING ISSUES, YOU WILL BE AFFORDED THREE MINUTES. SO DO YOUR VERY BEST TO STAY WITHIN THAT WINDOW. I WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING NOW.
I HAVE SOMEONE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK.
TO START US OFF. HIS NAME IS MR. LARRY SIMONE.
MR. SIMONE, WE WILL GIVE YOU THREE MINUTES ON THE TIMER AND
THE SETTING IS YOURS. >> YOUR HONOR, COMMISSIONERS, GOOD AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS LARRY SIMONE.
LIVE AT 126 CLAUDEL IN KYLE, U.S.A.
I'M HERE TO TALK OF KYLE AND MY VOTE AS PRESIDENT OF THE KYLE AREA SENIOR JOAN KNOWN AS KATS AND TALKING OF THESE SENIORS COMING INTO HAYS COUNTY. A GROUP OF CITIZENS FORMED A NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION AND TODAY WE ARE STILL OPERATING.
2010, THE CITY WAS GRACIOUS ENOUGH TO GIVE A LEASE AGREEMENT TO THE OLD CITY HALL THE 1912 FACILITY WITH ONE OFFICE AND TWO STORAGE ROOMS. WE HAVE BEEN OPERATING OUT OF THAT GRACIOUSLY FOR LAST 12 TO 15 YEARS AND WE ALSO HAVE BEEN RECEIVING FUNDS FROM THE COUNTY AND WE WERE HAPPY TO OPERATE.
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IN 2018, THE CITY SHOWED US A PROPERTY ON EAST SIDE OF 235 OF FIVE ACRES OF PROPERTY ON A LAKE.ONLY TWO LAKES IN KYLE. THAT WAS ONE OF THEM.
OUR BOARD WENT DOWN AND THE PROPERTY OF THE CITY AD SAYS WE WOULD LIKE TO OFFER THIS TO THE SENIORS TO BUILD A NEW FACILITY, TO FUND IT AND OPERATE IT.
WE LOOKED AT IT AND TOOK A DEEP BREATH AND SAID LET'S DO IT.
THE LAST THREE YEARS, FORMED A COMMITTEE AND MET WITH A CONSULTANT FOR GUIDANCE. BUILT A FEASIBILITY STUDY AND STRATEGIC PLAN. MET WITH A LOCAL COLLEGE.
A T TICKET WHO IS MEMBER OF A & E DESIGN AND SAID HELP US, STEVE. WE VISITED 17 CENTERS THROUGHOUT TEXAS AND THE UNITED STATES TO GET BENCHMARKING.
FOUR MONTHS AGO, OUR GRACIOUS CITY CALLED US AND SAID TELL US EVERYTHING YOU HAVE DONE, SHOW US ALL YOUR PLANS AND WE WOULD LIKE TO BE A PART OF YOU GUYS. THEY SAID THEY WOULD LIKE TO FORM A COMMITTEE. A SUBCOMMITTEE OUT OF THREE COUNCILMEMBERS AND SAID WE ARE IN A JOURNEY WITH YOU.
STEVE AT THE TIME SHOWED RE RENDERINGS.
AND THE CITY SAID, STEVE, WE WANT TO GO FOR CONSTRUCTION DESIGN. SHOW A BLUEPRINT WHAT IT WILL COST. $600,000.
CITY SAID PARTNERSHIP, CITY GIVING $2,000 -- 200,000, AND MET WITH THE COUNTY AND GOT COMMISSIONERS GRACIOUSLY -- COMMISSIONER INGALSBE AND JO JONES.
AND SHOWED THEM OUR VISION AND RENDERING AND TOOK THEM TO THE PROPERTY AND I THINK THEY LOVED IT.
I'M HERE IF THERE IS ANY WAY TO HELP US ENDS HAD JOURNEY.
A PARTNERSHIP WITH THE COUNTY. IF YOU HAVEN'T DEALT WITH SENIORS JETS OTHER THAN YOUR PARENTS, THEY ARE COMING INTO YOUR CITY AND CALL ME EVERY DAY ON THIS PHONE AND SAY LARRY, WHAT ELSE DO WE HAVE FOR SE SENIORS.
WHERE DO WE GO? WHAT DO YOU HAVE? WE WANT A STATE-OF-THE-ART FACILITY, WHERE THE COUNTY CAN BUILD A SUBSTATION AND VOTING BOOTH AND MAKE IT A NUTRITION SITE -- NUTRITION PROGRAM SITE OUT THERE AND A STATE-OF-THE-ART PROGRAM THAT YOU HAVE NEVER SEEN BEFORE.
THE DESIGN WILL BE $12 TO $14 MILLION.
BUT DO OUR PART AND FIND OUR ANGEL DONORS AND GET THIS GOING. IT IS OVERDUE.
WE APPRECIATE TO YOU AND WE APPEAL TO YOU FOR YOUR HELP.
THANK YOU. >> JUDGE BECERRA: THANK YOU SO MUCH. ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS FOR LARRY. BECAUSE THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING WE HAVE THIS SET UP TO INTERACT WITH YOU IF YOU FEEL LIKE IT. WE USUALLY DON'T INTERACT WITH THE PODIUM. IF YOU FEEL LIKE HAVING
COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS. >> DEBBIE INGALSBE: JUDGE, JUST A COMMENT. AS MR. SIMONE SAID, COMMISSIONER JONES AND I MET LAST WEEK WITH THEM.
WE WERE VERY IMPRESSED. THEY ACTUALLY HAVE A VERY LONG LIST OF SERVICES THAT THEY PROVIDE I ASK FOR IT TO BE A CENTER TO PROVIDE SERVICES TO ALL OF HAYS COUNTY RESIDENTS AND THEY, IN FACT, SAID IT WOULD.
AND WOULD ENTERTAIN THE NAME OF BEING SOME KIND OF HAYS COUNTY SENIOR CENTER. AND SO EVEN THOUGH IT IS IN KYLE, I JUST WANT TO MAKE IT CLEAR THAT IT IS A FACILITY THAT WILL BE USED BY ALL OF HAYS COUNTY AND SO I HAVE SPOKEN TO VICKY ALSO. I KNOW THAT SHE HAS PUT SOMETHING THAT WE CAN MAYBE TAKE OUT OF RESERVES AS A O ONE-TIME EXPENSE AND SO WE WILL BE DISCUSSING THAT A LITTLE
LATER. >> JUDGE BECERRA: NICE, WONDERFUL. COMMISSIONER?
>> WE HAD A GOOD VISIT WITH THEM.
WE HAVE SEEN THE SITE. ONE THING WE ASKED -- IF WE DID PARTICIPATE A VOTING SITE. AND THAT IS WHAT WE ARE DOING WITH ANY TYPE OF BUILDINGS THAT WE ARE PARTICIPATING WITH ON THE EAST SIDE OF 35 RIGHT NOW TO MAKE SURE THEY ARE INCLUDED IN ANY PLANS IF WE ARE GOING TO PARTICIPATE.
>> JUDGE BECERRA: ANYTHING ELSE, COMMISSIONERS?
>> THANK YOU. >> JUDGE BECERRA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I LOVE YOUR ENTHUSIASM AND I
LOVE YOUR ENERGY. >> WE GOT TO DO IT.
>> JUDGE BECERRA: WELL-DONE. PLUG IN NIGHT.
I LOVE IT. NEXT SPEAKER MR. BOB PARKS.
COME ON DOWN. >> THANK YOU, JUDGE.
MY NAME IS BOB PARKS AND A PRIVATE CITIZEN OF THE COUNTY I HAD THE DISTINCT PLEASURE LAST NIGHT IN THIS VERY COURT ROOM TO WITNESS THE CITIZEN COMMISSION WORKING TOGETHER ON DIFFICULT SUBJECT OF THE SALARIES FOR OUR SHERIFF AND FOR OUR CONSTABLES. AND I WAS NOT -- I WAS NOT ABLE
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TO SPEAK LAST NIGHT BECAUSE THAT WAS NOT THE FORMAT OF THAT MEETING, BUT I AM ABLE TO SPEAK THIS MORNING.IF I WAS GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY SPEAK, I WOULD HAVE PULLED OUT OF MY POCKET A COPY OF THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES AND REMIND THE HR DEPARTMENT AND EVERYBODY IN THE ROOM THAT WAS THE ULTIMATE MANUAL FOR ANY ACTIVITY THAT WE DO IN THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA IS THE CONSTITUTION.
AND ON THE VERY FRONT OF THAT THING, IT SAYS "WE THE PEOPLE." AND I THOUGHT THAT WAS VERY APPROPRIATE FOR THAT DISCUSSION LAST NIGHT, BECAUSE WHEN WE ARE TALKING OF BUDGET ITEMS. WE GET ALL BOGGED DOWN AND TALKING ABOUT TRUCKS AND HIGHWAYS AND, YOU KNOW, ALL THIS KIND OF STUFF.
AND THE BOTTOM LINE OF THE WHOLE DEAL IS WE THE PEOPLE.
IF THEY HAVE CONSTABLES AND SHERIFF AND OTHER PUBLIC EMPLOYEES THAT COME TO WORK EVERY DAY AND DO THE PEOPLE'S WORK AS PART OF THAT GROUP, I FEEL LIKE THEY DESERVE EVERY KINDS OF HECK ANYTHING WE CAN GIVE THEM IN AN EMPLOYMENT SITUATION THAT HAS TO DO WITH THEIR SALARY.
AT THAT VOTE LAST NIGHT UNDER THE PROCEDURES, THE VOTE FOR INCREASING THE CONSTABLES' PAY WAS A VOTE OF EIGHT IN FAVOR AND ONE SOMEWHAT UNOPPOSED -- SOMEWHAT OPPOSED.
IT WAS A VERY LIVELY DISCUSSION AND A VERY THOROUGH DISCUSSION.
THE SHERIFF GOT A 9-0 VOTE AND CONSTABLE GOT A 8-1 VOTE.
AND I URGE THE COMMISSIONERS AS THEY CONSIDER THE MATTER TODAY TO THINK OF WE THE PEOPLE. THE PEOPLE THAT MAKE THE DIFFERENCE IN THIS COUNTRY. THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU, MR. PARKS. AND THANK YOU FOR ATTENDING YESTERDAY. I KNOW I SAID IT TWICE AND I WILL SAY IT THE THIRD TIME. I AM SORRY THAT YOU COULDN'T SPEAK LAST NIGHT BUT IT WASN'T SET UP FOR THAT.
THANK YOU, SIR. WE ALSO HAVE MR. LEE IKELES.
IF YOU PLEASE APPROACH THE PODIUM, YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.
>> I NEED A FEW WORDS. PROTECTIVE WARD PRESIDENT.
WANT TO THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU YOU HAVE OVER THE YEARS AND OUR RAINBOW ROOM THAT YOU PROVIDED FOR IS A GREAT -- THE AREA IN BACK, THE STORAGE ROOM, IS GETTING FILLED -- BEING FILLED UP. I WENT AND GOT TEN BOXES OF UNDERWEAR LAST -- TWO WEEKS AGO IN AUSTIN.
I HAD MY SUV AND I COULDN'T HAVE GOTTEN ANYTHING ELSE IN IT. WEIGHED ABOUT 40 POUNDS APIECE.
BUT LITTLE THINGS LIKE THAT THAT PEOPLE DONATE.
THIS IS CHURCH GROUP THAT DONATED OUT OF AUSTIN.
AND AUSTIN GROUP THAT RUNS THE RAINBOW ROOM UP THERE IS A GOOD FRIEND OF MINE AND I DON'T KNOW -- I DIDN'T PULL NO STRINGS BUT ODD THAT I KEEP GETTING THINGS LIKE THAT.
SO I REALLY APPRECIATE WHAT YOU ALL DO AND WE HOPE TO CONTINUE DOING WHAT YOU WANT US TO DO. THANK YOU, ALL.
>> JUDGE BECERRA: THANK YOU FOR KIND COMMENT AND SHARE THE PERSONAL PERSPECTIVE WHAT YOU JUST SAID.
THE LAST PART YOU LOVE HELPING PEOPLE AND MORE COMES BACK TO YOU. I HAVE A REAL STRONG DESIRE TO HIGHLIGHT TO FOLKS THAT I FOUND MY CALLING SERVING OTHERS.
AND THE QUICKLY WE ALL REALIZE WE ARE MOST HAPPY HELPING OTHERS WE WOULD ALL BE IN A BETTER PLACE.
THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU DO. I AM GENUINELY GRATEFUL.
I THINK THE COURT IS EQUALLY AS GRATEFUL.
>> WE WERE IN THE STATE MEETING LAST WEEK IN AUSTIN FOR TWO DAYS, AND 11 REGIONS IN THE STATE OF TEXAS.
WE ARE IN REGION SEVEN. TEN OF THE REGIONS THERE.
THE ONLY REGION THAT WASN'T THERE WAS ONE FROM EL PASO AND WE HAD A NICE TURNOUT AND DISCUSSED A LOT OF THINGS AND THE FIRST TIME WE DIDN'T HAVE A ZOOM MEETING SO THIS WAS IN PERSON. THESE ARE PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEEN ON THE BOARD -- ONE LADY DRIVES ALL THE WAY DOWN FROM THE PAN HANDLE AND SHE IS 85 YEARS OLD BY HERSELF.
AND SHE HAS BEEN ON THE BOARD, I THINK, FOR 30-SOME YEARS.
>> JUDGE BECERRA: SEE. SERVING OTHERS IS LIFE FORMING.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. IS ANYONE ELSE ON THIS PUBLIC FORUM FOR THIS PUBLIC HEARING INTERESTED IN SPEAKING ON THE BUDGET ITEMS? IF NOT, I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC
HEARING. >> DO DEPARTMENT HEADS HAVE A
CHANCE -- >> WELL ANOTHER THREE-MINUTE WINDOW AT THAT MOMENT. I COULDN'T WANT TO GIVE YOU A THREE-MINUTE CAP. SO WHAT I WILL DO IS OPEN IT UP TO YOU AND OTHER FOLKS WITH NO TIME LIMIT.
JUDE, PROCEED. >> JUDGE, COMMISSIONERS, I
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WILL A PERSONNEL REQUEST THINK THAT SUBMITTED FOR THE BUDGET THAT UNFORTUNATELY IT DIDN'T MAKE IT.IT IS TO MAKE OUR PART-TIME ADMI A IN IF YOU WILL-TIME.
I -- SUBMITTED THAT REQUEST AND INCREASED WORK LOAD 50 TO 80 CALLS ON A GIVEN DAY, YOU KNOW, I AM CONCERNED THAT WE COULD LET PEOPLE SLIP THROUGH THE CRACKS.
AND YOU KNOW, JUST HAVING ANOTHER PERSON THERE ALL DAY COULD REALLY ASSIST WITH THAT. I DID SUBMIT THAT PERSONNEL REQUEST BACK THAT MAY AND UNFORTUNATELY DIDN'TMAKE IT
INTO THE BUDGET. >> JUDGE BECERRA: COMMISSIONERS, COMMENTS AND QUESTIONS.
THANK YOU, I MADE A NOTE OF IT AS WELL.
AND ANITA -- ANITA IS NODDING. STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE VIEWING
AND I HAVE A SLIDE PRESENTATION --
>> JUDGE BECERRA: CAN'T HEAR YOU.
>> HI A ANITA COLLINS OFFICE OF THE HAYS COUNTY JUDGE.
I HAVE A SLIDE PRESENTATION AND I DON'T KNOW IF I CAN WORK IT.
MY NAME IS ANITA COLLINS WITH THE HAYS COUNTY JUDGE.
AND WANT GOALS FOR OUR PORTION OF THE AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN ACT FUNDS GRANTED TO HAYS COUNTY. AND.
>> WALT SMITH: JUST TO CLARIFY OF THE OFFICE OF THE HAYS
COUNTY JUDGE'S OFFICE. >> ON BEHALF OF THE HAYS COUNTY COUNTY JUDGE OFFICE. HOSPITAL WING.
AND EMERGENCY RESPONSE AND EVACUATION CENTERS.
AND A CENTRALIZED REGION ALAN MALL SHELTER.
AS YOU KNOW -- WE CAN GO TO SLIDE 3, PLEASE.
THANK YOU. AS YOU KNOW, JUDGE BECERRA CREATED THE MENTAL HEALTH TASK FORCE THAT CONSISTS OF MENTAL HEALTH PROFESSIONALS, RESEARCHERS, THE JUDICIARY, MILITARY VETERANS AND PLANNERS OF THE MENTAL HEALTH HOSPITAL IN U VA LVE COUNTY. ALSO COMMUNICATED WITH FEDERAL, LOCAL AND STATE LEADERSHIP ON THIS.
DR. MARTINEZ AND DR. WATT, MEMBER OF OUR TASK FORCE REPRESENTING TEXAS STATE UNIVERSITY PREPARED DOCUMENTED MENTAL HEALTH NEEDS IN HAYS COUNTY.
NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. OKAY, GREAT.
>> I THINK YOU ARE MORE SUCCESSFUL POINTING IT THIS W WAY. MAYBE THE BATTERY IS LOW.
>> I THINK I AM MOST SUCCESSFUL SAYING NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
>> JUDGE BECERRA: IF YOU DON'T MIND DOING THAT.
SO YOU CAN BE CLOSE TO THE THING WHEN SHE SAYS NEXT SLIDE.
>> THANK YOU. TWO SIGNIFICANT POINTS MENTIONED, THE AVERAGE REQUESTED DAY OFF FOR POOR MENTAL HEALTH DAYS BY HAYS COUNTY RESIDENTS IS HIGHER THAN THE STATE AVERAGE. EVEN MORE STRIKING THAT WE ARE USING HAYS COUNTY RESIDENTS TO SUICIDE IN AN ALARMING RATE, DOUBLE THE STATE AVERAGE. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.
FIVE OUR PRELIMINARY PLANS ARE FOR INTEGRATED BEHAVIORAL HEALTH FACILITY. THIS INNOVATIVE FACILITY 48 BEDS FOR INPATIENT SUBSTANCE ABUSE, A COURT, RECREATIONAL AREAS AND ROOMS FOR OTHER SOCIAL SERVICES AND A VETERANS WING THAT WILL PROVIDE OUR MILITARY VETERANS THE CARE THEY NEED HERE WITHOUT HAVING TO TRAVEL TO SAN ANTONIO FOR CARE.
THE ULTIMATE GOAL IS TO DESIGN, PLAN AND INTEGRATE A MENTAL HEALTH SYSTEM THAT WILL EFFICIENTLY MEET THE MENTAL HEALTH CHALLENGES OF THE GROWING HAYS COUNTY FACILITY.
THE STATE-OF-THE-ART OF FACILITY FROM THE A RP A FUNS.
13 MILLION. COMPLAINT THAT IT COULD NOT BE USED FOR GREAT CONSTRUCTION COSTS.
I HAVE GONE THROUGH GREAT LENGTHS TO GET DEFINITIVE ANSWERS FROM OUR AUDITORS OFFICE AND THE TEXAS ASSOCIATION OF COUNTIES, NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE, AND OUR CONGRESSMAN LLOYD DOGETT SAY CORONAVIRUS LOCAL RECOVERY FUNDS ADMINISTERED FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF FACILITY CAN BE USED FOR CONSTRUCTION COSTS FOR MENTAL HEALTH HOSPITAL.
NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. THE SECOND FACILITY OF HIGH PRIORITY IS THE CREATION OF A REGIONAL EMERGENCY RESPONSE AND EVACUATION CENTER. THIS FACILITY WILL SERVE OUR REGION AS A DISASTER SHELTER. STATE-OF-THE-ART HEALTH DEPARTMENT TO PROVIDE VACCINATIONS AND TESTING FOR
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CURRENT AND FUTURE PUBLIC SAFETY OUTBREAKS AND EVAC EVACUATIONS WITH HOOKUPS WITH RVS AND STABLES FOR LARGE ANIMALS. THE FACILITY IS NOT USED FOR THE DISASTER EMERGENCY, IT HAS THE CAPACITY TO ALSO BRING IN TOURISM AS AN EVENT CENTER. SLIDE 8.NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. THIS WILL BUILD ECONOMIC RESILIENCE IN EMERGENCY AND NONEMERGENCY TIMES.
THE MENTAL HEALTH FACILITY AND THE REGIONAL EMERGENCY RESPONSE AND EVACUATION CENTER, GIVEN THE PROXIMITY TO TEXAS STATE UNIVERSITY AND AUSTIN COMMUNITY COLLEGE WILL SUPPORT WORKFORCE EDUCATION AND SKILLS TRAINING IN MENTAL HEALTH AND BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT AND PROVIDE WELL-PAYING QUALITY JOBS.
THE RECENT PANDEMIC -- WE CAN STOP THE SLIDES.
THE RECENT PANDEMIC AND THE RAPID GROWTH OF OUR COUNTY HAS EXCEEDED THE SMALL REGAL ANIMAL SHELTER IN SAN MARCOS.
WE ARE IN DESPERATE NEED OF A LARGER FACILITY TO BETTER SERVE THE NORTHERN AND CENTRAL PART OF HAYS COUNTY.
HUNTER SCHULER OF TEXAS STATE UNIVERSITY WILL PRESENT HIS
FINDINGS. >> JUDGE BECERRA: WHILE HUNTER IS SETTING UP, I WANT YOU ALL TO KNOW THAT I WAS FORTUNATE ENOUGH TO CAPTURE A LIST OF DASH STACK, I SHOULD SAY A STACK OF FOLKS THAT ARE READY, WILLING TO SIGN DOCUMENTS AND STAND UP HERE WITH PUBLIC COMMENTS AND I CAPTURED IT AND I SAID -- BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO THWART ANYONE'S FREEDOM OF SPEECH IN ANY WAY. I WILL RECEIVE THESE.
I THANK YOU ALL FOR SIGNING UP. AND WE HEAR YOU LOUD AND CLEAR AND THAT IS WHAT THIS IS ABOUT. THIS IS WHY I SAID WRY SAY IT
-- >> DEBBIE INGALSBE: ON THIS
PARTICULAR ISSUE, JUDGE. >> WOULD YOU MIND SHARING THAT,
JUDGE. >> JUDGE BECERRA: ON THE ISSUE
BEFORE YOU THE DOG SPACE. >> CAN YOU MIND SHARING IT WITH COPIES WITH ALL OF US SO WE HAVE IT.
>> JUDGE BECERRA: YOU MAY. >> THANK YOU, JUDGE.
AND THANK YOU COMMISSIONERS FOR ALLOWING ME TO SPEAK TO YOU TODAY. I'M HERE TO TALK OF A PROPOSAL FOR NEW COUNTY-SERVING ANIMAL SHELTER.
REGION ALAN MALL SHELTER. I WANT TO START FIRST BY TELLING YOU ABOUT THE EXISTING FACILITY.
NEXT SLIDE. HAYS COUNTY IS CURRENTLY BY A SINGLE PUBLICLY OPERATED ANIMAL SHELTER THE SAN MARCOS REGIONAL SHELTER ACROSS THE HIGHWAY. IT IS A A 15,000-SQUARE-FOOT FACILITY WITH 183 KENNELS. CURRENTLY HOUSING 240 ANIMALS AND THAT NUMBER FLUCTUATES DAY AFTER DAY AND MOST CERTAINLY OVER CAPACITY. IN ADDITION TO THE ANIMALS WE HAVE ON-SITE, WE HAVE 170 ANIMALS IN FOSTER CARE AND HOMES AROUND THE COMMUNITY. FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE, THE SHELTER IS OPERATING 70% OVER ITS ON-SITE CAPACITY WHEN YOU INCLUDE THOSE FOSTERED ANIMALS. THE COUNTY DOES HAVE TWO OTHER NONPROFIT SHELTERS THAT ARE SMALLER.
THEY ARE NOT OPEN INTAKE. THEY DON'T SERVE THE ENTIRE COUNTY. AND A MUCH MORE LIMITED RESOURCE AND VERY DIFFERENT FROM THE SAN MARCOS REGION ALAN MALL SHELTER. NEXT SLIDE.
ALTHOUGH IT HAS SAN MARCOS IN THE NAME AND OPERATED BY THE CITY OF SAN MARCOS. THE SAN MARCOS ANIMAL SHELTER IS A SHARED RESPONSIBILITY FOR THE ENTIRE COUNTY.
AND SERVICES ALL CORNERS OF THE COUNTY AND MORE THAN HALF OF THE ANIMALS LAST YEAR WERE NOT FROM THE CITY OF SAN MARCOS.
A PROPORTION THAT INCREASED IN RECENT YEARS AS THOSE NEIGHBORING COMMUNITIES GROW. KYLE, DRIPPING BRINGS, BUDA.
SO THE POINT I WANT TO EMPHASIZE HERE THIS ISN'T AN ISSUE LIMITED TO A SINGLE PRECINCT, AN ISSUE THAT EFFECTS THE ENTIRE COUNTY AND ALL OF THE PRECINCTS.
NEXT SLIDE. THAT ISSUE IS ONE OF CAPACITY.
IF YOU WALK INTO THE SAN MARCOS REGION ALAN MALL SHELTER, IT IS COMICAL AND TRAGIC. THEY HAVE ANIMALS STACKED UP IN CRATES IN THE LOBBY, IN OFF OFFICES, AND SHELTER STAFF ESTIMATE THAT IN RECENT MONTHS, THEIR INTAKE HAS BEEN APPROXIMATELY DOUBLE THAT WHICH THEY HAVE FORECASTED FOR SIMILAR MONTHS IN PREVIOUS YEARS.
AND NEXT SLIDE. AND YOU KIND OF UNDERSTAND THE CAPACITY ISSUES AND NOSES IN AND NOSES POINT WE LOOK FOR THE INTAKE FOR THE SAN MARCOS REGION ALAN MALL SHELTER.
I WAS A LITTLE PERPLEX BY THE DATA BUT YOU SEE THE NUMBER OF INTAKES ARE DECREASED FROM 2012 WHEN DATA WAS JUST AVAILABLE.
TAKE IT TO THE LOGICAL CONCLUSION A LINEAL LOOK AT THE DATA. IT STHAWINGTS NUMBER WILL BE
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ZERO AND 10 TO 15 YEARS WILL BE ZERO ANIMALS IS A NONSENSICAL CONCLUSION. THE TREND BEGAN TO MAKE MORE SENSE WHEN WE NOT THE NUMBER OF AUTHORIZATIONS OVER THE SAN MARCOS ANIMAL SHELTER. THEY HAVE STEPS TO ACHIEVE A NO-KILL STATUS. 2012, EUTHANIZING 3,000 ANIMALS A YEAR. 2020, THEY EUTHANIZED ONLY FOUR DOGS FOR NONMEDICAL REASONS. BUT WHAT THAT MEANS IS THAT YOU REDUCE YOUR ABILITY TO MAKE SPACE IN THE SHELTER.IT REDUCES YOUR ABILITY TO TAKE IN ANIMALS INTO THE SHELTER.
ONE OTHER THING THAT I WOULD LIKE TO MENTION IS THAT THE 2021 FISCAL YEAR REPORT WILL NOT BE AVAILABLE UNTIL NEXT MONTH AND EXPECT THAT ROMP WILL SHOW -- THE RECENT INTAKES OVER THE LAST FEW MONTHS BUT THAT DATA IS NOT YET AVAILABLE.
NEXT SLIDE. THERE ARE OTHER ISSUES AFFECTING THE SAN MARCOS ANIMAL SHELTER.
IN SEPTEMBER ALONE, JUST WITHIN THE PAST FEW WEEKS, 10 DOGS WERE EUTHANIZED FOR NONMEDICAL REASONS DUE TO IN PART A LACK OF SPACE. THIS IS TWO AND A HALF TIMES DOGS THAT WERE EUTHANIZED FOR NONMEDICAL REASONS FOR ALL OF 2020. ADDITIONALLY THE SHELTER HAS SUFFERED FROM A DRAMATIC DECREASE IN VOLUNTEER HOURS DUE TO THE COVID-19 PANDEMIC. FEWER ANIMALS INCREASES THE NEGATIVE OUTCOMES FOR ANIMALS IN THE SHELTER.
THOSE ANIMALS. MANY ANIMALS THAT CAME INTO THE SHELTER EXHIBITED POOR BEHAVIOR AND STRESS AND LIVED IN POOR CONDITIONS BEFORE THEY AID ARRIVED AT THE SHELTER AND MAY NOT HAVE SOCIALIZED PROPERLY WITH HUMANS AND OTHER DOGS AND OTHER CATS. AND THE ABILITY TO HAVE VOLUNTEERS WHO CAN WORK WITH THOSE ANIMALS AND SOCIALIZE THEM HOPEFULLY WILL IMPROVE THEIR BEHAVIOR AND MAKE THEM MORE ADOPTABLE, BUT WHAT WE SEE IS DECREASE IN VOLUNTEERS AND INCREASE IN THE NUMBER OF ANIMALS ON-SITE IN SOME CASES THEIR BEHAVIOR IS DETERIORATING AND MAKING THEM LESS ADOPTABLE.
IT COMPOUNDS THE ISSUE. NEXT SLIDE.
MORE OVER NOT JUST IN THE SHELTER BUT ANIMALS IN THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY HAVE BEEN IMPACTED BY COVID-19.
UNDERSTANDABLY THE SAN MARCOS OPERATIONS WERE IMPACTED LAST YEAR THAT LED TO A DECREASE IN SPAY AND NEUTERING PRO PROGRAM.
SPAYS AN NEUTERS AS THEY LIKELY DO, THEY WILL MORE LIKELY TO MAKE MORE ANIMALS AND AN INCREASE IN THE NUMBER OF LITTERS. ADDITIONALLY, ANIMAL SURR SURRENDERS -- THAT IS ANIMALS BROUGHT IN BY THE OWNERS AND SURRENDER TO THE CONTRACT BY ONE REASON OR THE OTHER.
A FIVEFOLD INCREASE OF ANIMAL INTAKES LAST YEAR TO THIS YEAR.
BECAUSE OPERATIONS WERE SUSPENDED A LITTLE WHILE AT THE SAN MARCOS ANIMAL SHELTER AND FEWER OPPORTUNITIES TO SURRENDER THOSE ANIMALS. IF YOU GO BACK TO 2019 WHEN THEN FULLY OPERATIONAL, WE HAVE SEEN THE DOUBLE NUMBER OF ANIMALS SURRENDERED THIS YEAR. THIS IS DUE TO THE FACT -- OWNERS MORE LIKELY TO SURRENDER THEIR PETS WITH EVICTION OR LOSS OF JOB. IF YOU HAVE NO LONGER RENT YOUR HOUSE AND MOVE AN APARTMENT WHERE ANIMALS ARE NOT ALLOWED.
ANIMALS ARE FORCED TO MAKE THE DIFFICULT DECISION.
40% OF OWNERS WOULD HAVE LIKED TO KEEP THEM IF THEY HAD ACCESS TO LOW CAST VET CARE, FOOD, P PET-FRIENDLY ANIMALS.
NOT THAT PEOPLE WANT TO GET RID OF THEIR ANIMALS BECAUSE THEY DON'T LIKE THEIR ANIMALS BUT WOULD LIKE TO KEEP THEM AND IMPACTED BY COVID-19 AND WOULD LIKE TO SURRENDER THEIR ANI ANIMALS. FLEX SLIDE.
COMPOUNDING THIS ISSUE IS ONE THAT YOU ARE VERY FAMILIAR WITH AND THAT IS THE RAPID GROWTH OF THIS COUNTY.
AMONG COUNTIES WITH A POPULATION OF 100,000 OR GREATER, HAYS COUNTY IS THE FASTEST GROWING COUNTY IN THE ENTIRE COUNTRY A COUPLE OF SMALLER COUNTIES IN NORTH DAKOTA, BUT THEY ARE MUCH SMALLER.
THIS COUNTY WITNESSED 53.4 POPULATION GROWTH SINCE THE 2010 CENSUS. THE RAPID DEVELOPMENT OF THE I-35 CORRIDOR AND NARROWING OF THE GAPS BETWEEN MUNICIPALITIES IN HAYS COUNTY. AND THAT MEANS MORE HOUSES AND MORE APARTMENTS. MORE FAMILIES THAT OWN BETS.
38.4% OF HOUSEHOLDS OWN A DOG AND 24.4% OF HOUSEHOLDS OWN A CAT. AS THE POPULATION INCREASE SO AS, TOO, ARE THE NUMBER OF AN MALTS IN THE COUNTY.
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NEXT SLIDE. I AM A GRADUATE STUDENT AT TEXAS STATE AND I GREW UP IN WILLIAMSON COUNTY ON THE NORTH SIDE OF AUSTIN. WHEN LOOKING AT THEIR ANIMAL SHELTER HISTORY, IT MADE FOR A NICE SITUATION HERE IN HAYS COUNTY. THEY ARE ALSO SERVICED BY ONE PUBLICLY LOCALIZED ANIMAL SHELTER 178 KENNELS 15,000 SQUARE FEET. SOME OF THE SIMILARITIES ARE STARTING TO BECOME APPARENT. IN 2016 APPROVED $10 MILLION FOR EXPANSION PROJECT AND CONSTRUCTION BEGAN IN 2018, AND THE NEW FACILITY IN 2019. MORE THAN DOUBLED THEIR SQUARE FOOTAGE AND MORE THAN DOUBLED THEIR NUMBER OF AVAILABLE KENNELS. SO A NEW SHELTER FROM HAYS COUNTY. ACCORDING TO SOME DATA, $475 PER SQUARE FOOT. TO BUILD ANOTHER SHELTER SIMILAR IN SIZE TO THE SAN MARCOS REGION ALAN MALL SHELTER TE COST $7.13 MILLION BUT OF COURSE OTHER COSTS FOR LAND ACQUISITION, THE EQUIPMENT THAT GOES IN THE STRUCTURE AND ST START-UP COST AND ESTIMATE A BUDGET OF APPROXIMATELY $10 MILLION TO $12 MILLION TO COMPLETE THIS PROJECT.WHEN SPEAKING TO MANY OF THE VOLUNTEERS AND STAFF AT THE MUNICIPALITIES, THEY MADE IT CLEAR THEY WANT TO EMPHASIZE THAT, YES, ANOTHER SHELTER WILL MAKE A DIFFERENCE.
BUT NOT TO OVERLOOK THE OTHER PROGRAMS THAT GO INTO RUNNING A SHELTER TO MAKE THAT SHELTER SUCCESSFUL AND PROGRAMS LIKE PUBLIC OUTREACH TO MAKE PEOPLE MORE AWARE OF THE SHELTER AND INCREASE THE ADOPTION RATE. COMMUNITY ASSISTANCE TO ASSIST OWNERS WHO WOULD OTHERWISE SURRENDER THEIR PETS IF THEY NEED TEMPORARY SUPPORT FOR FOOD AND VETERINARY CARE AND MARKING TO INCREASE THE NUMBER OF VOLUNTEERS TO MAKE PEOPLE MORE AWARE OF THE VOLUNTEER OPPORTUNITY AT THE SHELTERS AND INCREASE THE POSITIVE OUTCOMES OF THOSE THERE.
AN INITIAL REQUEST FOR $75,000 FOR A FEASIBILITY TO DETERMINE THE COST OF A NEW SHELTER AND GET MORE PRECISE NUMBERS FOR A BUDGET. NEXT SLIDE.
EACH OF THE DOGS THAT YOU SEE ON THE SLIDE WERE EUTHANIZED ON THE DATE UNDER THE NAME FOR THE SAN MARCOS SHELTER IN THE PAST FEW WEEKS. THAT IS AN ISSUE THAT I AM RELATIVELY NEW TO. AND A FORUM I AM NEW TOO AND ONE I CARE PASSIONATELY ABOUT. I AM NOT THE O AS JUDGE BECERRA INDICATED IN JUST A COUPLE OF DAYS, WE WERE ABLE TO COLLECT OVER 100 SIGNATURES FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS.
ALL WITH THE SAME COMMENT EXPRESSING SUPPORT FOR A SECOND ANIMAL SHELTER IN HAYS COUNTY. MANY OF THESE SIGNATURES WERE COLLECTED ON CAMPUS, BUT MANY WERE NOT HERE AROUND THE SQUARE FROM OTHER MEMBERS, NONSTUDENT MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY.
ADDITIONALLY JUST LAST NIGHT I SPOKE BEFORE THE STUDENT GOVERNMENT OF TEXAS STATE UNIVERSITY AND PROPOSED AN EMERGENCY RESOLUTION IN FAVOR OF BUILDING -- EXPRESSING SUPPORT FOR DEVELOPMENT OF A SECOND ANIMAL SHELTER IN THE COUNTY AND THE STUDENT GOVERNMENT IS ELECTED BY THE STUDENTS AND AUTHORIZED -- AUTHORIZED TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF THE 33,000 STUDENTS AT TEXAS STATE UNIVERSITY.
NOT ONLY DID IT PASS, BUT IT PASSED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE.
IN ADDITION TO MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY BUT MEMBERS OF THE UNIVERSITY. I SPOKEN TO OTHER ELECTED OFFICIALS IN THE AREA. I RECEIVED A PHONE CALL YOU FROM STATE SENATOR ZAFERINI EXISTING HER SUPPORT FOR THE PROJECT ASKING WHAT SHE COULD TO DO HELP AND STAFF AT STATE REPRESENTATIVE WEINER'S OFFICE AND INDICATED SUPPORT WENDING AUTHORIZATION OF THE PROJECT. I WANT TO THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR TIME AND CONSIDERATION OF THIS PROPOSAL.
IF THE COURT HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I WILL BE ABLE TO
ENTERTAIN THEM. >> JUDGE BECERRA: ANY QUESTIONS SPECIFIC TO THE ANIMAL SHELTER FOR THEM.
I HAVE ONE. IN WILLIAMSON COUNTY, ANOTHER SPOT -- MUNICIPALITIES THAT ARE PART OF THAT.
DO YOU KNOW HOW MUCH OF THE OVERALL BUDGET THEY PAID FOR IN THE SHELTER. I THINK THEY PAID THE MAJORITY OF IT, BUT I DON'T KNOW. I KNOW THE COUNTY COMMISSIONERS PAID FOR A IF YOU WILL-TIME VETERINARY STAFF.
>> I DO NOT HAVE THE NUMBERS ON HAND AT THE MOMENT BUT I REMEMBER READING THAT SOME OF THE COSTS WERE SHARED BY MUNICIPALITIES IN THAT. CORRECT.
>> THANK YOU FOR THE THREE OF YOU HOLDING THE SIGNS UP AND DOING THE LEGWORK. AN IMPORTANT AND NEAR AND DEAR SUBJECT TO OUR COMMUNITY AS A WHOLE.
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>> ONE OTHER QUESTION -- YOU WENT THROUGH THE SLIDE PRETTY QUICKLY. THE OVERALL KILL RATE IN 2012, IT WAS OVER 3,000. BUT I DIDN'T GET THE NUMBER DOWN. YOU SAID IT IN YOUR
PRESENTATION. >> SO I CAN GET YOU THAT PRECISE NUMBER, COMMISSIONER SMITH.
IT IS OVER 3,000. I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT IT IS FROM THE SLIDES HERE. BUT OVER 1,000 DOGS IN THAT YEAR AND OVER 1,000 CATS IN THAT YEAR.
THE CITY USED TO HAVE A PRACTICE WHERE THEY EUTHANIZED EVERY STRAY CAT THAT THEY BROUGHT IN.
A PRACTICE THEY HAVE ELIM ELIMINATED.
BUT BY -- WHEN YOU BRING IN ALL THE ANIMALS AND MAKE SPACE PREVIOUSLY. THEY WERE ABLE TO MAKE SPACE BY JUST EUTHANIZING THEM OVER AND OVER AGAIN.
WITH THE NO KILL STATUS, USE THE MECHANISM TO CREATE SPACE.
AND THE SHELTER HAS LEANED HEAVILY ON FOSTER CARE AND RESCUE GROUPS IN THE AREA. BUT THOSE ORGANIZATIONS, INTO, HAVE BEEN IMPACTED BY COVID. RUN BY PRIVATE ORGANIZATIONS AND NONPROFITS, THEY ARE FACING THE SAME RESTRICTIONS AS THE SHELTER IS. THEY CAME TO THE POINT WHERE THEY SEE THE CAPACITY TOO. AND WE SEE THE CONSEQUENCE WHEN THOSE SORT OF FLEXIBLERES RESOURCES ON THE MARGINS REACH
THEIR LIMIT. >> WALT SMITH: WHENEVER THE JUDGE AND I WERE FIRST ELECTED, THE MAIN PRIORITY FOR BOTH OF US AND COMMISSIONER SHELL AND OTHER MEMBERS OF THE COURT TO CONVERT THE SHELTER TO A NO KILL SHELTER.
WE WORKED FOR PROBABLY THE FIRST 18 MONTHS TO GET IT TO A PLACE WHERE WE COULD DO THAT. HEARING THE NUMBERS ARE ALWAYS
INTERESTING. >> THAT IS A REMARKABLE ACHIEVEMENT, BUT ONE THAT IN LIGHT OF THE UNPRECEDENTED GROWTH THAT THE COUNTY IS FACING, THIS ISN'T A PROJECT THAT WILL HAPPEN OVERNIGHT. WHERE IS THE COUNTY GOING TO BE THREE OR FIVE OR TEN YEARS FROM NOW AND WHAT SORT OF NUMBERS FOR ANIMALS IN THE COUNTY AT THIS POINT.
NOT ONLY A SOLUTION -- A L LONG-TERM LOUIS FOR THE PRESENT AND PREPARATION FOR THE FUTURE AND GROWTH WE ARE FACING.
>> JUDGE BECERRA: COMMISSIONER SHELL A COMMENT OR QUESTION.
>> LON SHELL: JUST A COUPLE OF COMMENTS.
WHEN THE COUNTY SUPPORTED THE NO KILL INITIATIVE.
MAY BE THE FIRST ENTITY OR THE SECOND ENTITY THAT FORMALLY APPOINTED THAT. THERE WAS AN ACKNOWLEDGE THERE WOULD BE NEED TO BE IMPROVEMENT IN THE HOUSING OF STRAY ANIMALS OR LOST ANIMALS. THE CITY OF SAN MARCOS WHICH OPERATES THE REGION ALAN MALL SHELTER NOW PARTNERS WITH THE CITY OF KYLE, BUDA AND HAYS COUNTY, WE PAY INTO THE OPERATIONS OF THAT FACILITY. IT WAS DESIGNED IN A DIFFERENT DAY, DIFFERENT TIME AND DIFFERENT SIZE COUNTY TO BE A REGIONAL FACILITY. IT WILL BE UNREASONABLE FOR THE CITY OF SAN MARCOS TO SAYS IT NO LONGER SUITED FOR A REGION ALAN MALL SHELTER BUT A SAN MARCOS AND TO GO TO NO KILL.
THEY CAN EASILY TELL US OR KYLE AND BUDA, FIND A DIFFERENT PLACE FOR THE ANIMALS BECAUSE WE WOULD BE JUST FINE IF WE CAN LIVE WITHIN THE SPACE THAT WE HAVE.
I AM ALWAYS GRATEFUL TO WORK TOGETHER AND THE REASON I SAY THAT WHATEVER SOLUTION THERE IS AD THE PLANS PUBLIC NEEDS TO TAKE PLACE YESTERDAY, ADDITIONAL SHELTER OR SHELERS ACROSS THE COUNTY AND THE QUESTION IS WHETHER ONE LARGE REGIONAL FACILITY THAT ALL ENTITIES SHARE IN.
OR IF IT IS SUB REGIONAL FACILITIES THAT TARGET CERTAIN POPULATION AREAS. I SAY THAT BECAUSE FROM A HAYS COUNTY PERSPECTIVE. FROM HAYS COUNTY ANIMAL CON CONTROL, THE SAN MARCOS IS ONE -- AND PICK UP AN ANIMAL FROM DRIPPING SPRINGS. A MULTIHOUR INVESTMENT FOR THAT ONE VEHICLE. BUT MAYBE NOT ONE BUT MULTIPLE SMALLER FACILITIES WITH CEN CENTERS, KYLE, BUDA, DRIPPING SPRINGS, SAN MARCOS. AN ANALYSIS TO SEE HOW YOU GET THE BEST COVERAGE, BEST SERVICE.
HOW YOU MEET THE NO KILL INITIATIVE IN THE BEST WAY AND TAKE CARE OF ALL OF THE OTHER COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH RUNNING THE SHELTER. YOU DON'T WANT TO HAVE TEN OF THEM BECAUSE THE OVERHEAD FOR RUNNING THOSE TEN FACILITIES IS NOT GOING TO BE COST EFFECTIVE. BUT MAY THAT BE IT IS NOT JUST ONE REGIONAL SHELTER EITHER. THERE NEEDS TO BE AN ANALYSIS DONE AND NEEDS TO START WHERE THE FUTURE IS BECAUSE AS WE CONTINUE TO GROW, THE PROBLEM IS GOING TO CONTINUE TO GET WORSE. I AM RESUPPORTIVE OF THE VOLUNTEERS THAT STEPPED UP NOT JUST FROM FOSTERING AND GETTING ON FACEBOOK AND GETTING PEOPLE TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE PROBLEM AT THE SHELTER AND GET THESE ANIMALS ADOPTED NOT EUTHANIZED AND A LOT OF STRIDES AND I BELIEVE THAT THE VOLUNTEER
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EFFORT HAVE REALLY MADE UP THE DIFFERENCE AT THAT POINT SAYING WE WILL GO NO KILL WITH A RELATIVELY IF YOU WILL SHELTER AND SURVIVE FOR A FEW YEARS AND STILL BE AT A PRETTY GOOD NO KILL PERSPECTIVE BECAUSE OF STEPS THAT OUR VOLUNTEERS HAVE TAKEN TO MAKE SURE THAT THOSE ANIMALS FIND HOMES OR IF NOT PERMANENT HOMES, TEMPORARY HOMES NOT IN THE SHELTER AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE -- AND I THINK WE REACHED THE END OF THAT AND SOON IF NOT YESTERDAY. START THICK OF WHAT THE NEXT STEP IS NOT JUST FOR HAYS COUNTY GOVERNMENT BUT ALL OFOUR PARTNERS OF HAYS COUNTY. >> JUDGE BECERRA: SO PERFECTLY SAID, COMMISSIONER. I WOULD LIKE TO ADD IN MY THOUGHT PROCESS, I EXACTLY THOUGHT OF DRIPPING SPRINGS.
I SAID WE ARE GOING TO HAVE A DEPUTY -- JUST AS DESCRIBED AND IN OUR CONVERSATIONS MY OFFICE, SOMETHING CENTRALIZED TO SERVE CENTRAL AND NORTHERN PART OF HAYS COUNTY.
BECAUSE THIS FAR SOUTHEAST STOP IS NOT REASONABLE FOR OUR DEPUTIES. NOT REASONABLE FOR OUR COMMUNITIES TO LOSE A PUP OR KITTEN AND WONDER HOURS LATER WHERE IT MAY BE. AND SO I THINK THAT IDEA OF THE ANALYSIS IN MOTION IS ABSOLUTELY OVERDUE AND THANK
YOU FOR REITERATE THIS. >> AND HAYS COUNTY, INITIATIVES THEY YOU IN THE PLACE AND SIGNAGE WHERE THE ANIMAL IS PICKED UP. THEY STICK A SIGN WITH A NUMBER AND A LOT OF TIMES ABLE TO HEAD OFF THAT TRANSPORT OF THAT ANIMAL ALL THE WAY TO THE SHELTER AND ENTERING INTO THE SHELTER AND TAKING UP RESOURCES AND WE KNOW ARE STRESSED.
ALSO WE HAVE SEEN THAT PICKUP AND THINGS WE CAN CONTINUE TO DO AND THIS HAS HELPED AS WELL. AND I THINK THERE NEEDS TO BE SOME ACKNOWLEDGMENT OF THE IMPROVEMENTS MADE IN THAT AND ALSO FROM THE SPAY, NEUTER PERSPECTIVE TOO TO INCREASE THAT ISSUE AS WELL AND THIS COUNTY INCREASED FUNDING ON THAT AND SOMETHING THAT WE WILL HAVE TO DO.
>> JUDGE BECERRA: DO YOU WANT TO ADD ANYTHING OR GO TO THE
COMMISSIONERS. >> COMMISSIONER SHELL, AGREE WHAT YOU ARE SAYING. SOME DECISION HAS IN HAVE NOT BEEN MADE YET. THEY HAVE BEEN PREMATURE.
ONE THING I HAVE BEEN ASKED A LOT APPROACHING MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY. WHERE PRECISELY IS IT GOING TO BE. WHO WILL MANAGE OPERATIONS.
WHO IS GOING TO STAFF IT. THOSE QUESTIONS NOT ANSWERED IS LIKE GOING HOUSE SHOPPING WITH AN EMPTY WALLET.
I THINK YOU ARE COMPLETELY RIGHT IN ANALYSIS IS NECESSARY TO FIGURE OUT THOSE IMPORTANT DETAILS AND HOW TO PROCEED.
>> WALT SMITH: THIS IS MY LAST COMMENT.
WE CAN'T GLOSS OVER THE FACT IF WE LOOK AT THE CHART THAT THE AUDITOR OR SOMEBODY WAS KIND ENOUGH TO PUT THROUGH FROM YOUR PRESENTATION. IT LOOKS LIKE CLOSER TO 3500 WERE EUTHANIZE $BACK IN 2012. 3500 NOW THAT WE ARE -- I KNOW WE ARE NOT 100% BUT 99.9997% PRODUCTION IN AUTHORIZATIONS IN OUR COUNTRY. I THINK THAT GOES A PRETTY STRONG COMMITMENT ON BEHALF OF OUR COMMISSIONERS COURT AND THOSE INVOLVED THAT THIS IS IMPORTANT TO US.
AND I DON'T WANT TO DISCUSS THAT AT ALL.
AND NOBODY WORKED WITH THE BOARD AS OUR COMMISSIONER SHELL WHO CAN TALK TO THE ACTUAL NUMBERS AS FAR AS THE FUNDING TO DO THAT. I APPRECIATE THE WORK HE HAS
DONE. >> JUDGE BECERRA: COMMISSIONER INGALSBE. I THINK YOU WERE GOING TO SAY
SOMETHING? >> DEBBIE INGALSBE: I APPRECIATE THE CONVERSATION AND COMMISSIONER SHELL AND I SIT ON THE SAN MARCOS ANIMAL CENTER REGIONAL BOARD.
AND I KNOW IT HAS BEEN REALLY SLOW IN COMING.
YOU HAVE BEEN INVOLVED IN A LOT OF DISCUSSIONS ALSO, BUT I JUST WANT TO ENSURE AND IT HAS BEEN STATED THAT CAN HE CONTINUE WORKING WITH OUR PARTNERS BUT A I KNOW THEY ARE ALSO INTE INTERESTED. WE ARE ALL DEALING WITH THE SAME THING EVEN THOUGH WE ARE TAKING OUR MAN MALLS TO ONE PLACE. EVRYBODY IS DEALING WITH THE SAME THING AND THE GROWTH AND NUMBER OF ANIMALS THAT WE HAVE NOW THAT WE ARE DEALING WITH AND TAKEN TO THE SHELTER.
AND SO I KNOW THAT THEY ARE INTERESTED AND A BIG MATTER -- I DON'T WANT TO SAY ISSUE, BUT SOMETHING WE NEED TO CONTINUE TO WORK ON. I AGREE WITH THE ANALYSIS THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE. THE -- THE SPAY AND NEUTER PROGRAM THAT COMMISSIONER SHELL MENTION.
I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT THAT WE FUND THAT.
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EVERY TIME WE GO TO THE PRESENTATION, THAT IS ALWAYS BEING DISCUSSED. WE NEED TO PUT MORE MONEY INTO SPAY AND NEUTER AND JUST THE EDUCATION LETTING PEOPLE KNOW EXACTLY WHAT EXACTLY NEEDS DONE.A LOT OF DISCUSSION ON THE CHIP AND I KNOW THERE IS SOME CONTROVERSY ON THAT. WHETHER OR NOT THEY WANT -- OWNERS WANT TO HAVE THEIR ANIMALS CHIPPED, BUT I BELIEVE THAT IT IS STILL A GOOD PRO PROGRAM.
AND YOU KNOW, WE KNEES TO EMPHASIZE THAT PROGRAM.
>> JUDGE BECERRA: AT&T HAVE ME CHIPPED.
>> THANK YOU, COMMISSIONERS. IF I MAY TO COMMISSIONER SMITH'S, THE COUNTY HAS STRONG COMMITMENT TO THAT NO KILL STATUS AND ONE THAT IS POPULAR IN THE COMMUNITY.
THE DATA SUPPORTS THAT AS OBVIOUSLY YOU WERE SAYING.
I WANT TO BRIEFLY RECOUNT WHEN COLLECTING THESE SIGNATURES FOR THOSE PUBLIC COMMENTS. THE RESPONSES I GOT WEREN'T LIKE YEAH, YEAH, SURE I WILL SIGN.
LEAVE ME ALONE. IT WAS THE OPPOSITE AND ENTHUSIASTIC HECK YES. WHERE DO I SIGN.
WHAT CAN I DO. WHERE CAN I VOLUNTEER.
WHERE CAN I ADOPT. NOT A SINGLE PERSON TURNED ME DOWN WHEN ASKING FOR SUPPORT FOR THIS PROJECT.
ONE THAT CUTS ACROSS POLITICAL DIVIDES, BETWEEN ETHNIC DIVIDE, WHETHER STUDENT, NONSTUDENT, EVERYBODY SUPPORTS THIS PROPOSITION. EVERYBODY LOVES ANIMALS.
AND I THINK YOU ARE CORRECT THAT THE COUNTY HAS REPORTED IT AND I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THAT THE COMMUNITY SUPPORTS IT AS
WELL. >> JUDGE BECERRA: GIVING THE PODIUM BACK TO YOU. DO YOU WANT TO RECAP THE THREE? AND THANK YOU, AGAIN, FOR THE PRESENTATION.
TO WRAP UP, THE EFFECTS OF COVID ARE FAR-REACHING, INUNDATING OUR LOCAL ANIMAL SOCIETY FORCING US TO EUTHANIZE MUCH MORE AS WE AS A COMMISSIONERS COURT COMMITTED TO ACCEPTING AND MUCH MORE THAN THE COMMUNITY AT LARGE WILL SUPPORT. IN SUMMARY THE MENTAL HEALTH HOSPITAL VETERAN CENTER, EMERGENCY RESPONSE AND EVACUATION CENTER AND THE CENTRALIZED ANIMAL SHELTER WILL BENEFIT ALL CITIZENS WHO HAVE -- WILL HAVE ACCESS TO AND BENEFIT FROM THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THESE PROJECTS.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND CONSIDERATION.
>> JUDGE BECERRA: THANK YOU, ANITA.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR ANITA BEFORE SHE LEAVES THE PODIUM?
>> THE THREE PRIORITIES YOU SET FORTH.
THERE WASN'T A DOLLAR FIGURE ANNOUNCED FOR ANY OF THE
FOR THE MENTAL HEALTH HOSPITAL, $250,000.
FOR PLANS AND FOR THE EVACUATION CENTER WAS $100,000.
FOR THE PLAN INNING AND THEN $75,000 FOR THE ANIMAL SHELTER.
THAT IS WHAT WE ARE REQUESTING RIGHT NOW.
>> JUDGE BECERRA: THANK YOU SO MUCH, ANITA.
WOULD LIKE TO TAKE THE PART TO HIGHLIGHT THE MEETING THAT I CHAIRED LAST NIGHT WITH OUR SHERIFF AND OUR CONSTABLES.
THERE WAS A GRIEVANCE PROCESS -- SET IN MOTION FOR THE VIEWING PUBLIC. I WILL QUICKLY RECAP.
NINE INDIVIDUALS COLLECTED FOR OUR GRAND JURY POOL.
WE CREATED A QUORUM. WE BROUGHT THEM IN AND HAD ELOQUENT CONSTABLE ELLEN SPEAK OF THEIR CONDITION AND THEIR SITUATION. AND SHERIFF CUTLER AS WELL.
AND WE HAVE SHERRY MILLER COME IN, OUR HR DIRECTOR AND RECAP AND REINFORCE A LOT OF THE STATEMENTS, AND WE HAVE A BACK AND FORTH WITH ALL OF THE CITIZENS, PRIVATE CITIZENS.
AND THE WAY THIS WORKS IS WITH AN EWE INTO A NUMBER NEWS SUPPORT, 9-0 VOTE TO SUPPORT AN INCREASE, THEN IT BECOMES A DIRECTIVE FOR US AS A COURT. IF IT IS MISSING BY ONE, THEN IS BECOMES A RECOMMENDATION AND MY DUTY TO REPORT TO YOU THAT THE SHERIFF RECEIVED THAT 9-0 VOTE TAKING HIS SALARY.
LET ME TRY TO CATCH THIS FROM MEMORY.
SALARY 110 AND CHANGE AND TOOK IT TO 120 -- I MAY HAVE A NOTE $122,482 AND THAT WAS UNAN UNANIMOUSLY SUPPORTED.
WE DON'T HAVE A CHOICE IN THE MATTER.
THAT IS NEW NUMBER. 10.6 FERRARI INCREASE FOR THE BODY RECOMMENDED, CONTINUITY AND CONSISTENCY THAT WAS APPRECIATED AND THE RAISE THAT WE HAD FOR $77 010 IS WHAT THE CONSTABLES ARE MAKING TODAY TO 80,000 AND CHANGE WHAT WE PROPOSED AS A COURT HAVE BEEN DIALED UP AND IT IS A RECOMMENDATION BECAUSE THEY WERE NOT UNANIMOUS ON THE FRONT TO 86. I WILL REPEAT.
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SITTING TODAY AT 77. WE AS A COURT HAVE SUPPORTED THE IDEA OF 81. BUT THE RECOMMENDED BUT NOT MANDATED IS 86. I WILL TELL YOU IT WAS A 8-1 ON CONSTABLE. IT WAS -- IT IS MY RESPONSIBILITY, I FEEL, PERSONALLY, NOT AS THE CHAIR OF THE MEETING BUT JUST AS I AM AS A PERSON TO REPORT TO YOU A VERY ENTHUSE PARTICULARLY $86 K FOR THE CONSTABLES.IF I MISREPRESENTED THAT. DID I CATCH THAT OKAY, GUYS?
>> WALT SMITH: WHAT WAS THE REQUEST FROM THE CONSTABLES,
92, 94 OR 95? >> JUDGE BECERRA: THE REQUEST 95,707. OUR PROPOSED WAS JUST UNDER $81,000. AND THE RECOMMENDED BY THE BODY OF 8-1 WAS 86. THE 10.68% INCREASE THAT THE SHERIFF WAS UNANIMOUSLY VOTED FOR.
>> WALT SMITH: THANK YOU FOR THE CLARIFICATION.
>> JUDGE BECERRA: COMMISSIONERS, COMMENTS, QUESTIONS? SO I WILL SAY IT THIS WAY.
NOW OUR DECISION AS A COURT TO DASH RECOMMENDATION OF THE CONSTABLES. OUR DECISION AS A COURT TO KEEP THE -- FROM 77 TO JUST OVER 81 PAY WE HAVE PROPOSED OR WE COULD TAKE THE RECOMMENDATIONS TO MOVE TO 86 OR DO SOMETHING ALL TOGETHER DIFFERENT, BUT WE HAVE TO MAKING IS NOW.
SO I AM READY FOR CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THAT.
VICKY, SHOULD I PREFACE ANYTHING ELSE BEFORE I TALK
I BELIEVE THAT THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE WAS HERE TO SPEAK ON SOME OF THE ITEMS AND I HAVE A SPREADSHEET AND I HAVE ALL OF THIS DOCUMENTED AS WELL OTHER REQUESTS THAT HAVE COME IN SINCE OUR LAST HEARING. SO IF YOU WANT TO TAKE THIS
ISSUE FIRST AND GO -- >> JUDGE BECERRA: GO TO THE OTHER THINGS. GOOD.
I WOULD LIKE TO ENDS THIS BECAUSE I KNOW SOME OF OUR CONSTABLES ARE HERE AND WHETHER THEY ARE HERE FOR THE ITEM OR NOT, I WANT TO GIVE THE TIME, SPACE AND RESPECT I GIVE EVERYONE ELSE IN THIS COURT ROOM ADDRESS YOUR ISSUES TO KEEP MOVING AS YOU CHOOSE TO. NOT KICKING YOU OUT BUT YOU HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY. IT IS UP TO THE COURT.
I WILL HAPPILY LISTEN TO YOUR COMMENTS SMITH DID THE CONSTABLES HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL INFORMATION.
>> JUDGE BECERRA: YOU LEFT THAT OUT OR WANT TO REITERATE SOMETHING? PLEASE APPROACH THE PODIUM.
THE CHARMING CONSTABLE ELLEN IS APPROACHING THE PODIUM ONE MORE
TIME. >> MY FIRST TIME DO IT WITHOUT A POWERPOINT. I DIDN'T REALLY PLAN TO SPEAK, BUT THANK YOU, JUDGE. THE WAY YOU DESCRIBED THAT IS VERY ACCURATE AND VERY FAIR. OUR HOPE IS THAT WE WILL TAKE A LOOK AT THE -- THE EIGHT VOTES THAT WE GOT THAT STATISTICALLY THAT IS 88.86%. THE PEOPLE THAT WERE ON -- ON THIS PANEL WERE REPRESENTATIVE OF THE PEOPLE THAT WE SERVE ALL THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY. SO ALL OF US BEING ELECTED OFFICIALS, I THINK WE CAN AGREE THAT IF ANY OF US IN OUR RACE CAME HOME WITH A 9% WIN, THAT IS HUGE AND I THINK WE WILL ALL BE ABLE TO SAY THAT THE PEOPLE HAVE SPOKEN.
AND SO WE WOULD JUST ASK YOU ONE LAST TIME BEFORE YOU DO TAKE THAT VOTE, PLEASE TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION WE DIDN'T GET THE NINE. WE HAD ONE HOLD OUT AND I ASSUME IT WAS VERY SPIRITED. WE WERE OUT FOR AN HOUR AND THEY TOOK IT VERY SERIOUSLY AND WE WERE APPRECIATIVE OF EVERYTHING THEY DID AND THE HARD WORK THEY PUT INTO IT.
BUT PUT YOUR EMPHASIS ON THE 89% THAT SAID YES.
>> JUDGE BECERRA: THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE CONS
CONSTABLE? >> WITH THIS INCREASE, IF IT IS APPROVED, THE LARGEST -- THE LARGEST INCREASE OVER -- SINCE I HAVE BEEN HERE. THE CONSTABLES WOULD HAVE RECEIVED LARGER -- LARGEST PERCENTAGE INCREASE OF ANY
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OFFICE, ELECTED OFFICE INSTEAD OF THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE IN THAT THREE-YEAR PERIOD. MY QUESTION IS AT THE END OF THIS PROCESS NEXT AUGUST IS IT ANTICIPATED IF IT WAS THE SAME THAT WE WOULD GO THROUGH ANOTHER GRIEVANCE PROCESS?>> I COULD NOT ABSOLUTELY TELL YOU YES OR NO BUT I CAN TELL YOU THERE IS NO PLAN TO DO THAT SHOULD THAT BE THE CASE AT THIS
POINT. >> I SEE ONE CONSTABLE NODDING HIS HEAD YES. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT MEANS HE
AGREES. >> JUDGE BECERRA: MAY BE.
WE WILL KEEP IT OPEN-ENDED IT SOUNDS LIKE.
>> NEVER OUR DESIRE TO DO THAT. >> JUDGE BECERRA: THANK YOU, CONSTABLE. I WAS CHAIR OF THAT MEETING LAST NIGHT AND I FELT THE ESSENCE AND COMPASSION AND IN THE SPIRIT OF REPRESENTING THE MEETING FROM LAST NIGHT, I MOV THAT WE MOVE THE CONSTABLES TO $86,000 A YEAR.
LOOKING FOR A SECOND OR IT CAN DIE.
>> DEBBIE INGALSBE: SECOND JUDGE JUDGE WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND AND NOW A PLACE FOR A CONVERSATION.
>> SHERRY, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD IN ANYTHING ON YOUR RECOMMENDATION BEFORE AFTER THE TREATMENTS? OR IS YOUR RECOMMENDATION THE SAME.
>> I DID NOT PROVIDE RECOMMENDATIONS FOR ELECTED OFFICIAL SALARIES. THE MARKET IS AROUND -- BETWEEN $82,000 AND $884,000. THE CONSTABLES ARE ALSO PROVIDING BASED ON A DIFFERENT COMBINATION OF MARKET SOURCES.
I AM USING RESOURCES I USE FOR COLLECTIVE.
WHEN I AVERAGE THE MARKET CHOICES FOR ELECTED OFFICIALS.
DEPENDING WHEN YOU LEAVE BASTROP ON OUR OUT 82 OR 84.
>> DEBBIE INGALSBE: WAS THAT INFORMING SHARED.
>> YES. >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR
SHERRY OR COMMENTS. >> A FEW COMMENTS.
I HAVE BEEN AT RECORD SAYING OFFICIALS PAY IS ON THE BOMB TOMORROW OF THE LIST OF PRIORITIES AND HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH OUR CONSTABLES AND SHERIFF AND I HAD SAID THAT MANY TIMES AND I WILL CONTINUE TO SAY IT FORTUNATE TO HAVE THE CONSTABLES IN HAYS COUNTY. I PUT THEM UP AGAINST EVER EVERYBODY. I COME ACROSS MANY OF OUR ELECTED LEADERSHIPS ACROSS THE STATE.
AND THOSE WHO SERVE HAYS COUNTY AS CONSTABLE IN OUR SHERIFF ON THE TOP OF THE LIST OF EVERYONE I HAVE EVER SEEN.
MY COMMENTS ARE NEVER MEANT TO BE PERSONAL TO THOSE INDIVIDUALS AND THEY ARE WORKING HARD IN DOING A GOOD
JOB AND RUN VERY GOOD OFFICES. >>.
REMEMBER TRYING TO COMPENSATE OUR OFFICERS PROPERLY IN THE.
AND WHAT THE PERFECT MARKET IT I DON'T KNOW.
AND FOR OUR OFFICERS HAVING TOO RECRUIT.
THE OTHER ISSUE IS RETAINING THEM ONCE THEY ARE TRAINED SO WE DON'T LEAVE THEM EARLY IN THE CAREERS AND JUMP WHEN WE INVESTED AND DEVELOPING THEM AS A QUALITY OFFICER I THINK OUR SHERIFF'S OFFICE RUNS AN ACADEMY AND THE REASON THEY DO THAT TO TRAIN OUR OFFICERS TO BE THE BEST THEY CAN BE.
THEY DO A GREAT JOB AND SELECTIVE OF THE OFFICERS THAT MAKE THAT ACADEMY AND WE SEE THOSE PERCENT MANY TIMES IN OUR CONSTABLE DEPUTY RANKS AS BEING EXPERIENCED IN THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE AND MOVES OVER TO A CONSTABLE DEPUTY.
I DO WANT TO SAY THAT I HAULS A FOCUS ON OUR DEPUTIES AND ALWAYS WILL. LOOK AT AN ELECTED OFFICIAL AND THE DEPUTIES AND YOU HAVE WITH THE DEPUTIES.
SOME OF THEIR LEADERSHIP AMONG THEIR RANKS MAKE MORE THAN THE ELECTED OFFICIAL AND A BIT OF AN ISSUE AND POINTED OUT AND TENDS TO KINDS OF BE THE WAY IT IS FOR DEPARTMENT HEADS VERSUS COURT MEMBERS. THE MARKET THAT WE USE FOR ELECTED OFFICIALS WERE DECIDED ON A PROCESS THAT THE COUNTY PUT TOGETHER BEFORE MY TIME. COMMISSIONER INGALSBE WILL BE
THE ONLY ONE, 2008 OR 2009. >> DEBBIE INGALSBE: I THINK IT
WAS '08. >> FORMED A CITIZEN COMMITTEE THAT FORMED A MARKET. THAT WAS DIFFERENT FROM OUR EMPLOYEES AN OUR COLLECTIVE BARGAINING MEMBERS.
WHETHER THAT IS THE RIGHT WAY TO DO IT OR NOT, LOOKING FORWARD, I WILL SAY THAT MAYBE THAT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT IS TAKEN UP AS WELL THAT THE RIGHT MARKET SHOULD WE ALL BE THE SAME LAW ENFORCEMENT, OFFICIAL. LAW ENFORCEMENT COLLECTIVE BARGAINING AND WHETHER THIS IS ONE OF MY ASKS FROM NEXT YEAR
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FROM HR TO THINK ABOUT THESE THINGS AND THE SECOND IS, WE DON'T LIKE TO -- TO GET TO WHERE WE DON'T ADDRESS THE OTHER ELECTED OFFICES WHICH IS MY PREFERENCE TO DO IT THE SAME. BUT GOING BACK TO WHERE THIS IS NOT MY PRIORITY, I WAS NOT GOING TO BE THE ONE TO COME FORWARD AND SAY HOW TO PAY ELECTED OFFICIALS AND NOT MY PRIORITY. THAT IS TALKING OF MY COLLEAGUES THINK THAT DON'T HAVE A GREAT DEAL OF RESPECT FOR TOO. THE OFFICIAL PAY WILL BE INCREASED BY 3% TO 4%. THE COMMISSIONERS COURT HAVE NOT TAKEN THAT AND PROBABLY A GOOD ARGUMENT FROM MY COLLEAGUES UNDERPAID COMPARED TO THAT MARKET AND SHOWS THAT AND JPS, OUR TREASURERS, CLERKS AND, ETC. LOOKING FORWARD WHAT THE MARKET IS IF IT SHOULD BE, THAT IS FINE.IF THAT IS A DETERMINATION, BUT THEN A PLAN TO EFFECTIVELY IMPLEMENT THAT MARKET TO THE ELECTED OFFICIALS.
SO I KNOW THAT MISS MILLER OUR HR DIRECTOR WAS DOING WHAT SHE SHOULD BY SAYING I AM NOT GOING TO COME IN HERE AND RECOMMEND HOW TO PAY AN ELECTED OFFICIAL. I AM WANTING TO YOU STEP A LITTLE CLOSER TO THAT LINE AND NOT NECESSARILY SAY THAT WE PAY OUR ELECTED OFFICIAL THIS BUT SAY I RECOMMEND TO THE COURT THAT YOU IMPLEMENT THIS STRATEGY IN ORDER TO ACROSS THE BOARD ADDRESS ELECTED OFFICIAL PAY AS YOU GO.
ONE TIME, ONE YEAR WHICH HAS BEEN DONE OR TWO OR THREE YEARS AT A TIME. THOSE ARE JUST MY TWO ASKS.
THANK YOU. >> JUDGE BECERRA: COMMISSIONER, I ABSOLUTELY TALKED OF THAT VERY THING WITH COMMISSIONER INGALSBE THE LAST TIME I TALKED OF THIS VERY SUSPECT. I THOUGHT THERE WERE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE PODIUM OR THE DAIS, AND I HAD A VERY SIMILAR IDEA, COMMISSIONER. IS TO CREATE -- YOU HAVE CREATED THE PARAMETERS AND NOT THE LEAD OR THE LATTER YOUR FAVORITE DESCRIPTION TO COMMIT SOME COMMITTED AGREED UPON PERCENTAGE THAT WE FIT IN AS ELECTED BODIES AND PUT US THERE AND YEAR-OVER-YEAR, JUST KEEP IT THERE.
AND AS IT GOES -- AS IT MOVES. WHATEVER HAPPENS, IT IS AN AUTOMATIC POLICY THAT JUST G GOES AND HAPPENS THAT WE DON'T DO THIS DRAGGING OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS THROUGH A PROCESS, A GRIEVANCE AND CALLING IT GRIEVANCE AND ALL THESE DIFFERENT THINGS. I AGREE WITH THE COMMISSIONER THAT I THINKING IT HELPFUL THAT WE AS POLICYMAKERS FOR THE COUNTY SAY MOVING FORWARD, LET'S CREATE THIS STAPLE, PECULIAR DAMAGE, WHATEVER WE DECIDE THAT COULD BE RIGHT HERE AS WELL MOVING FORWARD TO SAY ALL WILL FIT IN THIS MEDIUM STARTING NEXT YEAR AND NO QUESTION ABOUT IT.
I THINK THAT MIGHT BE A GOOD UNIVERSAL CLEAR ACROSS THE BOARD WAY TO APPROACH IT SO WE DON'T HAVE TO HAVE ELECTED OFFICIALS AS GROUPS EXPLAINING THEY ARE NOT A PART OF COLLECTIVE BARGAINING AND WE HAVE LEFT OUT AND LOOK BAD FOR THEM AS A WHOLE SITTING THROUGH IT LAST NIGHT.
AND THERE IS A LEVEL THAT, HEY, WE RAN FOR THIS OFFICE AND I HONESTLY -- I AM WITH COMMISSIONER SHELL IN THIS FRONT. I DIDN'T DO IT FOR THE PAY.
WHEN I LEARNED OF THE PAY. I WAS LIKE, OH, WOW.
I WAS LOOKING AT IT WITHOUT P PAY.
>> WE CAN DO THAT. >> JUDGE BECERRA: BUT NOT ALWAYS THE FACTOR WHEN RUNNING FOR OFFICE, BUT STAY IN A UNIVERSAL STANDARD PROCESS OF APPRECIATION AND CALIBRATION THAT YOU SO ELOQUENTLY ABLE TO RECITE AND SO IN THIS MOTION, I ALSO ENCOURAGE. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND AND I WILL CREATE A SEPARATE MOTION TO VOTE ON THIS -- SUCH
POLICY STARTING NEXT YEAR. >> I WILL ALSO JUST SAY PERSONALLY IF I WERE BILL GATES OR WARREN BUFFETT AND HAD THE ABILITY TO BE PHILANTHROPIC FOR EMPLOYEES AND OFFICIAL OF THIS COUNTY, THERE WILL BE MANY THAT I WOULD -- I WOULD WRITE A CHECK TO AND SAY YOU ARE UNDERPAID AND DOING AN AMAZING JOB AND PROUD THAT I LIVE IN THIS COUNTY AND THIS GOES ACROSS MANY LEVELS OF COUNTRY. UNFORTUNATELY I AM NOT BILL
GATES FOR WARREN BUFFETT. >> JUDGE BECERRA: COMMISSIONER SMITH WE TALKED ABOUT THIS BEFORE WHEN THIS CAME UP IN OUR BUDGET MEETING AND I WANT TO REITERATE TO OUR CONSTABLES.
ONE OF THE POINT THAT WE MADE, WE ARE IN A VERY UNIQUE SITUATION AND COMMISSIONER SHELL PUT A FINE POINT CONTINUE TO THAT WE HAVE A MINIMUM NUMBER OF YEARS EXPERIENCE WITH OUR ELECTED CONSTABLES RIGHT NOW IS PROBABLY 20 YEARS.
AND SO THOSE EXPERIENCES -- THAT EXPERIENCE I FEEL MORE
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COMFORTABLE PAYING FOR THAT EXPERIENCE.BUT TWO THINGS. TWO FUNDSMENTAL DIFFERENCES WITH BEING AN ELECTED OFFICIAL. NUMBER ONE, TOMORROW, THAT 20 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE SHOULD YOU BECOME UNELECTED TOMORROW, THE PERSON WHO TAKES YOUR SPOT, MAY HAVE A LICENSE AND HAVE ONE YEAR OF EXPERIENCE. AND SO AN FUNDAMENTAL DIFFERENCE WITH COLLECTIVE BARGAINING AND WORKING WITHIN A STRUCTURE AND BEING AN ELECTED OFFICIAL.
THAT IS WHERE I HAVE AN ISSUE THE OTHER ISSUE YOU I HAVE, I KNEW WHAT THE PAY WAS WHEN I LOOKED AT THE SITUATION.
FUNDAMENTALLY IT IS HARD FOR ME THAT Y'ALL WERE ON THE BALLOT LAST YEAR SAYING I RAN FOR THIS OFFICE.
I SIGNED UP TO RUN FOR IT. AND FOR THIS FOUR-YEAR PERIOD THIS IS WHAT I AM GOING TO MAKE.
TO COME IN WITHIN A YEAR AND SAY, WELL, WE WANT MORE MONEY FOR THAT. AND THAT IS -- THAT IS A HARD -- THAT IS A HARD SELL FOR ME. AND YOU KNOW I HAVE BEEN MORE IMPORTANT THAN ANYBODY ELSE AND A HARD SELL.
WHEN I TALK TO PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY AND I SAY, YOU KNOW I SUPPORT OUR OFFICERS. WE HAVE DONE PAY INCREASES FOR OUR OFFICERS. BUT AS AN ELECTED OFFICIAL, Y YES, WE SAID WE WERE -- WE WERE SIGNING FOR THIS PROCESS BUT YET WITHIN -- NOT A YEAR. LET ME CORRECT THAT WITHIN 16 MONTHS TO SAY, OKAY. WE JUST GOT THE JOB FOR ANOTHER FOUR-YEAR PERIOD AND WE WANT ANOTHER PAY INCREASE.
>> JUDGE BECERRA: THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER.
WE HAVE ONE MORE COMMENT AND I WILL ASK TO CALM THE VOTE.
>> JUDGE, I APPRECIATE IT. YES.
IN -- 2015 AND 2016, WE DID A MARKET STUDY AND FOR ALL THE ELECTED OFFICIALS. IS THAT RIGHT, MARK, 2016? SINCE THAT TIME, TWO -- I GUESS TWO BUDGET CYCLES AGO CONS CONSTABLES -- TWO OF YOU AGREED AND THEY WON AND GOT A RAISE ABOVE THAT MARKET. THE NEXT YEAR WE TOOK THEM ABOVE THE MARKET. THE CONSTABLE IS ABOVE THAT MARKET -- THAT MARKET STUDY THAT ALL THE OTHER ELECTED OFFICIALS HAVE GOTTEN. I BELIEVE, IS THAT RIGHT,
SHERRY? >> I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM.
IF WE DID THE MARKET STUDY AND DID IT COUNTYWIDE FOR ALL ELECTED OFFICIALS, I WOULD HAVE MORE CHANCE.
THAT'S WHY I HAVE A HARD TIME OF SUPPORTING THE 86.
I WILL STAY MY TWO CONSTABLES JOHN ELLEN AND CONSTABLE TORRES NEVER TURNED ME DOWN WHEN I ASKED THEM TO DO SOMETHING.
NEVER TURNED ME DOWN TO DO A PATROL AND HOPEFULLY THAT
DOESN'T CHANGE AFTER TODAY. >> JUDGE BECERRA: DR. CAR
CARDENAS, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. >> MARK JONES: NO.
>> LON SHELL: NO. >> WALT SMITH: YES.
>> DEBBIE INGALSBE: YES. >> JUDGE BECERRA: YES.
CONGRATULATIONS, CONSTABLES. NOW I THINK WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO CREATE THAT CONVERSATION AND WRAP IT UP IN THE FORM OF A MOTION GOING FORWARD FOR ALL ELECTED OFFICIALS SO WE DON'T PUT GROUPS OF ELECTED OFFICIALS THROUGH THIS PROCESS. I THINK THERE SHOULD BE A -- JUST A MOMENT DEDICATED TO THIS BECAUSE THIS IS CLEARLY HARD FOR US. WE LEAVE OURSELVES OUT OF RACES BECAUSE WE SEE THE THOUGHT PROCESS.
AND SO, MISS MILLER, YOU HEARD THE CONVERSATION AND SEVERAL OF US HAVE IT AND SUPPORT THE GENERAL IDEA.
WHAT DO YOU RECOMMEND THE MOTION LOOK LIKE?
>> I THINK A MOTION TO DIRECT HR TO STUDY AND LOOK AT SALARIES IN AN APPROPRIATE WAY OR STRATEGIC WAY TO ADDRESS AND BRING IT BACK TO THE COURT FINDINGS.
AND THE BASIC OF HR TO CONDUCT THAT RESOURCE.
>> SO MOVED. A LOT OF PUBLIC INVOLVEMENT IN THE STUDY FOR 2008 TO REFRESH THEMSELVES ON WHAT THE INTEREST
WERE. >> AND THE GOAL OF THE SPIRIT OF IT IS -- IN MY OPINION AND MY READ TO PUT ALL COUNTY OFFICIALS. AND IT BECOMES POLICY AND NOT TO BE REVISIT THIS WAY. I DEEPLY RESPECT OUR SHERIFF
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AND CONSTABLE AND I DON'T LIKE TO DO WHAT WE HAVE TO DO.A MOTION AND A SECOND. >> MARK JONES: YES.
>> DEBBIE INGALSBE: YES. >> LON SHELL: YES.
>> WALT SMITH: YES. >> JUDGE BECERRA: YES.
THANK YOU SO MUCH. WE HAVE BRITTANY AND THE SHERIFF TO TALK OF A COUPLE OF ITEMS TIED TO THE BUDGET.
I WANT Y'ALL TO KNOW I AM LEAVING THIS AGENDA ITEM OPEN DELIBERATELY BECAUSE THIS IS THE TIME AND SPACE WE TALK ABOUT IT. BRITTANY WOULD YOU LIKE TO APPROACH THE PODIUM WITH ANYTHING? IF YOU STATE YOUR NAME AND TITLE.
>> I AM ON A SPECIFIC ITEM BUT OUR COST OF LIVING MERIT INCREASES. IF WE WANT TO RAISE THAT ITEM LATER AFTER THE BUDGET HEARING, WE COULD DO THAT.
>> JUDGE BECERRA: WE NEED TO GET IT IN THERE.
>> I AM NOT SURE WHICH ITEM JUDGE JUDGE TALKING ON THE BUDGET ITEM. YOU ARE REFERRING --
>> AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 44 JUDGE JUDGE BRITTANY, WANT TO TELL YOU, SPECIFICALLY TALKING OF AGENDA ITEM 53.
WHICH IS THE PUBLIC HEARING ON THE BUDGET STUFF.
AS IT PERTAINS TO THE BUDGET. WHICH IS DOES.
THAT YOU SPEAK THROUGH THAT LENS.
IT IS THE SAME INFORMATION. JUDGE JUDGE I WANTED THE PUBLIC TO KNOW WE ARE ON THAT ITEM AND THANK YOU.
>> WE HAVE SOME PARTICIPATE MEN TAR IANS WATCHING AND --
PARLIAMENTARIANS. >> WHEN THE CLERK ESTABLISHES COLA AND MERITS. WE ALWAYS END UP BACK BECAUSE WE DIDN'T THINK OF A UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCE AND HOW THEY APPLY TO PEOPLE. SO I THINK BRITTANY'S ATTEMPT IS GET US TO AGREE ON THE BASE AND IF WE WANT TO ON THE BUDGET PROCESS, WE EITHER ACKNOWLEDGE THAT WE TEND TO OR DON'T.
>> CORRECT. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER.
JUST GOING FOR PURPOSES OF QUICKNESS, I JUST -- I WILL TOUCH ON HIGHLIGHTS OF THE THINGS I WANT TO POINT OUT.
PROPOSING A POLICY THAT WE PUT IN OUR PERSONNEL MANUAL TO HAVE THE CURRENT COLA AND MERIT YOU GUYS IN THE UPCOMING BUDGET AND AS WELL AS IN THE FUTURE. A POLICY THAT COULD BE AMENDED AT THE TIME ANY PAY INCREASE IS IMPROVED BY YOU GUYS AND A STANDARD POLICY TO GO BY THAT I DON'T HAVE TO COME BACK AND ANSWER THESE QUESTIONS OVER AND OVER.
AND SET THE PRECEDENCE. I WRITTEN THIS AS WE GENERALLY APPLY THESE RULES. AND A FEW THINGS THAT I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT. BASICALLY WE HAVE A COLLECTIVE BARGAINING AGREEMENT AND NEGOTIATIONS THAT ARE ALWAYS BASED ON THE COLLECTIVE BARGAINING.
THE COST OF LIVING ALLOCATIONS. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT I WOULD LIKE TO MENTION IS I AM STATING IN THIS POLICY THAT THEY ARE APPLIED FIRST.
AND BEFORE ANY OTHER CHANGES THAT ARE EFFECTIVE ON THE DATE OF THE COLA AND THE REASON FOR THIS IS SOMETIMES WE HAVE MULTIPLE THINGS HAPPEN ON THE SAME DAY.
WHEN THE COURT APPROVES A MERIT OR COLA ON THE SAME DAY AND I NEED TO KNOW WHAT ORDER TO APPLY THESE INCREASES TO DO IT FAIRLY. IN THIS PARTICULAR POLICY, IT STATES THAT IT WOULD BE APPLIED FIRST AND IT IS BASED ON THE PAY FROM THE DAY BEFORE THE IMTHREE THENTATION OF THIS COLLA. SO, FOR INSTANCE, IN THIS PARTICULAR, YOU HAVE A 2% COLLA HAS OF OCTOBER 1ST AND BASED ON THE END OF DAY SEPTEMBER 30. ANYTHING THAT IS COMING UP AFTER THAT WOULD BE APPLIED LATER IF THAT PERSON HAS A MERRITT INCREASE AS WELL, THE 2% COLA WILL NOT APPLY TO THE MERIT INCREASE BUT THE END OF THE DAY SALARY THEY WERE MAKING ON THE DAY BEFORE. THAT IS WHERE THE LINE CAME IN.
ALSO ONE OF THE THINGS WE WANT TO MAKE SURE OF, WE ARE NOT APPLYING THEM TO PEOPLE WE SHOULDN'T.
AND COLA, COST OF LIVING INCREASES, WE WOULD LIKE TO ACCEPT ELECTED OFFICIALS, TEMPORARY EMPLOYEES, INTERNS, EMPLOYEES COVERED UNDER THE COLLECTIVE BARGAINING AGREEMENT BECAUSE THEY HAVE ALREADY BEEN NEGOTIATED.
AND ANY EMPLOYEES THAT HAVE BEEN EMPLOYED FOR HIS COMPANY
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LESS THAN SIX MONTHS. THAT IS THE RULE WE ACTUALLY APPLIED IN APRIL. SO THIS IS WHY WE ARE BRINGING THAT FORWARD AGAIN. ANY OF THESE THINGS SUCH AS THE SIX-MONTH -- LESS THAN S SIX-MONTH EXCLUSION CAN BE ELIMINATED FROM THIS POLICY. THAT IS UP TO YOU GUYS IN ADDITION TO THAT, ANYBODY IN MAXIMUM OF THEIR GRADE WILL BE IN A LUMP SUM FORM. MOVING ON, IF NO COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS ABOUT COST OF LIVING. I KIND OF WANT TO GO THROUGH THIS AND I HAVE AN EXAMPLE AND MAYBE YOU CAN TELL US THESPECIFICS AT THAT POINT. >> JUDGE BECERRA: I LOVE THE WAY YOU SAY THAT SO SUCK SIRNGT AND I WANT TO ADD A COMMENT WE DON'T ALWAYS PUT COLA BECAUSE PROJECTION OF ALWAYS DOING COLA AND PUTS US IN A DIFFERENT CATEGORY.
MAKE IT AS A POLICY DECISION BLANKET.
WE HAVE BUDGETS THAT DON'T INCLUDE CERTAIN CONDITIONS, SO WHEN THOSE CONDITIONS HAVE BEEN DISCUSSED, HIGHLIGHTED AND THIS WOULD SUSPEND THIS ITEM, CORRECT.
>> EACH YEAR. YOU WILL DECIDE WHAT TO IMPLEMENT PER YEAR. THIS IS NOT A GUARANTEE EVERY YEAR. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT IF YOU GUYS APPROVED A BUDGE THAT APPROVES THE COST OF LIVING.
THAT COST OF LIVING IS I AM INSTRUCTED AS A TREASURER TO IMPLEMENT THE COST OF LIVING IN THIS SPECIFIC WAY.
JUST MY INSTRUCTIONS TELLING ME WHAT TO DO IF YOU APPROVE IT.
DOESN'T MEAN THAT IT WILL AUTOMATICALLY BE INCLUDED.
>> DEBBIE INGALSBE: JUDGE, IF I AM NOT MISTAKEN AND YOU CAN CORRECT ME. YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT THE RETIREE COST OF LIVING THAT WE DON'T WANT TO BECOME THAT RECURRING -- IT DOESN'T APPLY TO OUR EMPLOYEES THAT ARE
CURRENT. >> THAT'S CORRECT TOO.
BUT EITHER CASE, YES, WE DO HAVE A RULING THAT IF WE GIVE COST OF LIVING INCREASES TO RETIREES AS A RETIREMENT BENEFIT IT WILL BE CONSIDERED GUARANTEED A SEPARATE ISSUE AND AGREED THAT THIS DOES NOT ALWAYS IMPLY THAT THE COUNTY WOULD HAVE A COST OF LIVING. AND WILL DESCRIBE HUE TO HANDLE IT JUDGE JUDGE BREAK THE CYCLE FOR COST OF LIVING.
-- JUST KIDDING. >> CAN I COUNT ON THAT JUDGE.
.> >> THE SECOND THING IS MARKET ADJUSTMENTS. MARKET ADJUSTMENTS AS HAVE BEEN OUR POLICY IN RECENT TIMES IS SOMETHING THAT WE GO OUT.
WE ASK HR TO LOOK AT. YOU GUYS DIRECT HER WHICH COUNTIES OR CITIES OR WHICHEVER MARKET WOULD YOU LIKE TO LOOK AT AND COMES BACK AND SAYS, Y YES, THESE NEED TO BE ADJUSTED AND THESE PEOPLE AND THE WHOLE CHART NEED TO BE ADJUSTED.
SOME THINGS I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT IN THIS PARTICULAR SECTION IS WHEN THIS HAPPENS, THAT EMPLOYEES THAT ARE PAID BELOW THEIR NEW MINIMUM WILL BE UP TO THEIR NEW MINIMUM.
THEY HAVE TO BE MOVED UP TO THEIR NEW MINIMUM.
IF THE DAY -- THE EFFECTIVE DATE OF THE MARKET INCREASE, THIS EMPLOYEE MAKES LESS THAN THE MINIMUM OF THIS PARTICULAR INCREASE, THEY WOULD HAVE TO BE PUT AT THE MINIMUM AS LONG AS THEY ARE A WELL PERFORMING EMPLOYEE.
THEIR EVALUATIONS ARE FINE. ER IN NOT HELD BACK FOR OTHER DISCIPLINARY REASON, THEY WILL BE RECEIVE A MINIMUM OF THEIR GRADE ADDITIONALLY WITH THAT. AND SALARY WITHIN A RANGE WAS WITHIN THE SAME RANGE OF A NEW GRADE, THEY WILL NOT RECEIVE ANY INCREASE. NOT SOMETHING THAT IS GOING TO AUTOMATICALLY GIVE AN PLEA AN INCREASE BECAUSE THEIR GRADE CHANGES, BUT JUST SOMETHING IF THEY ARE WITHIN THAT RANGE DOES NOT AUTOMATICALLY MEAN THEY WILL BE AN INCREASE.
THEY MUST BE AT THE MINIMUM. MOVING ON TO MERIT MERIT INCREASES. BASED ON BUDGET.
DEPARTMENT HEADS HAVE MORE DISCRETION WITH THE MERIT INCREASE. IF AUTHORIZE A MERIT INCREASE OF 2% LIKE YOU HAVE IN THE CURRENT PROPOSED BUDGET.
HAVE TO SELECT A DATE FOR THAT MERIT POOL.
AND THE REASON IT CAN'T BE. AND MERIT INCREASE AND GIVE IT BACK. IN.
IN ADDITION TO THAT, OUR BUDGET PEOPLE NEED A FIGURE TO GO WITH TO PRODUCE FOR THE BUDGET AND SET THAT TWO PAYDAYS PRIOR TO THE EFFECTIVE DATE WHICH MAKES END OF THE MONTH PAYROLL FOR THIS CASE IF EFFECTIVE OCTOBER 1, THAT MEANS WE ARE USING SALARIES FOR THE MERIT POOL BUDGE AS OF ALREADY 31, NOT
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9/30 BECAUSE NOT ENOUGH TIME IN THERE.SO YOU GUYS HAVE ALREADY ESTABLISHED PAID PROGRESSIONS IN CERTAIN PROFESSIONS. AND WHEN DO YOU THAT, IF YOU INCLUDE A MERIT, WE ARE GOING TO SEPARATE THAT POOL OF MONEY FOR JUST THE PROGRESSION PLAN EMPLOYEES, AND THAT CAN'T BE USED FOR OTHER EMPLOYEES WITHIN THE SAME DEPARTMENT.
AND, OF COURSE, AGAIN, WE ARE EXCLUDING SOME PEOPLE.
DEPARTMENTAL MERIT ALLOCATIONS DO NOT APPLY TO OFFICIALS, VACANT POSITIONS, INTERNS, AND POSITIONS COVERED UNDER THE COLLECTIVE BARGAINING UNIT OR WITH PEOPLE WITH SIX MONTHS OR LESS OF EMPLOYMENT WITH US. AND EMPLOYEES THAT ARE NOT ALSO INCLUDED WOULD BE SOMEBODY THAT DOESN'T HAVE A SATISFACTORY AND ON A IMPROVEMENT PLAN WILL NOT BE ABLE TO PROGRESS ONCE THAT
STATUS CHANGES. >> JUDGE BECERRA: ALL MAKES
SENSE. >> CAN'T REALLOCATE FUNDS TO OTHER EMPLOYEES IF THE EMPLOYEE TERMINATES ONCE THEY RECEIVE AT LEAST ONE PAYCHECK WITH THE MERIT IN IT.
IF AN APARTMENT HEAD ALLOCATES MONEY TO A SPECIFIC EMPLOYEE FOR A MERIT, AND THAT PERSON WORKS TWO OR THREE MONTHS AND QUITS, THE REMAINING MONEY DOES NOT GET TO BE ALLOCATED TO ANY OTHER EMPLOYEE. A MERIT INCREASE NEEDS TO BE APPLIED LASTLY AND MAINLY FOR MY INSTRUCTIONS.
FOR INSTANCE IN THIS CASE, THE COURT IS APPROVING OR PROPOSED TO IMPROVE A MERIT AND A COST OF LIVING AS OF OCTOBER 1.
SO IF THAT IS THE CASE, THE FIRST ONE I WOULD APPLY WOULD BE THE 2% COST OF LIVING BASED ON THE SALARY THE DAY BEFORE AND BASED ON THAT OF THE MERIT POOL THAT THE DEPARTMENT HEAD HAS ALLOCATED. THE COST OF LIVING OF 2% DOES NOT APPLY TO THAT MERIT INCREASED SALARY IF THAT MAKES
SENSE. >> JUDGE BECERRA: COMPLETE
SENSE. >> FINALLY PROGRESSION PLAN MOVEMENT. AND PROGRESSION PLAN BASED ON THE PERCENTAGE FOR. AND THE PERSON THAT IS MAKING THE PRO INVESTIGATION PLAN TAKES PLACE.
IF SOMETHING HAPPENS ALL ON THE SAME DAY, THE PROGRESSION PLAN INCREASE WILL BE FOR THE DAY BEFORE AND NOT AFTER A INCREASE HAS HAPPENED. IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE, SECONDARY TO THE COST OF LI LIVING.
SO IT WILL BE BASED ON THE DAY BEFORE.
AND EMPLOYEES ARE NOT ELIGIBLE FOR A PROGRESSION PLAN IN CASE THEY ARE ALREADY MAKING MORE THAN THE CURRENT AUTHORIZED PLACEMENT WITHIN THE PLAN. THEY WON'T BE ELIGIBLE UNLESS THEY ARE ALREADY WHERE THEY SHOULD BE IN THEIR PLAN.
I WILL JUST GO OVER A VERY, VERY SIMPLE EXAMPLE FOR YOU GUYS BECAUSE THAT -- IT HELPS ME TO UNDERSTAND IF I AM DOING THIS CORRECTLY THE WAY YOU WANT ME TOO.
I AM GOING TO READ THIS FOR THE PUBLIC.
EMPLOYEES SALARIES OF AUGUST 31 IS $50.
THE SALARY OF SEPTEMBER 30 WAS $100, BECAUSE THE EMPLOYEE GOT A PROMOTION. OKAY.
THE H R DEPARTMENT HAS COME BACK AND SAID WE SHOULD GIVE THEM $25 MORE EFFECTIVE OCTOBER 1.
THE NEW MINIMUM WILL BE $25 MORE.
SO IN THIS PARTICULAR SCENARIO, AS THE PROPOSED POLICY SHOWS, A 2% COLA ON SEPTEMBER 30 IS ADDED TO THE EMPLOYEE WHICH IS $2. BECAUSE ON SEPTEMBER 30, THEY WERE MAKING $100. SO 2% OF THAT WILL BE $2.
AT 2% DEPARTMENTAL ALLOCATION IS BASED ON AUGUST 31 SALARY $50. THE MERIT ALLOCATION GIVEN TO THEIR DEPARTMENT FOR THIS PARTICULAR EMPLOYEE WOULD BE $1. SO IF THE THREE WAS GOING TO GET THE IF YOU WILL DOLLAR THAT THE DEPARTMENT HEADS DECIDE THEY WILL GET, THE HUNDRED DOLLARS AND THE $2 COLA MEANS THEY WILL MAKE $102, WHICH IS LESS THAN THE 10-1 MARKET ADJUSTMENT THAT HR RECOMMENDED OF $125.
IN THAT CASE, WE WOULD ELIMINATE THE FIRST CALCULATION AND JUST START WITH $125. SO IN THAT POINT, WE ADD THE $1 MERIT THAT THE DEPARTMENT HEAD DECIDES TO GIVE THEM OR NOT. BUT IF THEY DECIDE TO GIVE IT, THE PERSON WILL GET $126. THIS IS THE METHOD AND THE ORDER OF WHICH TO APPLY IT, AND THE REASON THIS IS IMPORTANT OBVIOUSLY BECAUSE WE COULD SAY THEY COULD GET THEIR MERIT FIRST BEFORE APPLYING A COST OF LIVING AND GIVE A DIFFERENT
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FIGURE OR COULD GET THEIR COLA ON TOP OF THEIR MARKET ADJUSTMENTS WHICH WILL THEN BE A DIFFERENT FIGURE.I NEED TO KNOW AS THE PERSON PAYING PEOPLE WHICH WAY TO DO THIS. THE PARTICULAR PROPOSED POLICY IS DEFINITELY UP FOR DISC DISCUSSION.
IT IS SIMPLY I NEED TO KNOW HOW YOU WANT ME TO DO IT.
>> JUDGE BECERRA: I THINK SHE HAS DONE A GREAT JOB TO EXPLAIN
IT. >> YOU HAVE RECEIVED FEEDBACK
FROM THE AUDITOR'S OFFICE. >> CORRECT.
>> IN THEY HAVE ANY OTHER ID IDEAS.
I THINK IT IS GOOD. >> JUDGE BECERRA: RECOMMENDED -- COLA FIRST. WHAT S SPOT-ON IN MY OPINION AS ONE OF THE POLICYMAKERS HERE IS WHAT YOU DESCRIBED IS EXACTLY HOW I THINK IT SHOULD BE DONE AND DO IT IN POLICY FORM TO HAVE THE CONCRETE ROAD MAP TO MAKE IT EASIER.
>> I AM SIMPLY TRYING TO PREVENT ME COMING BACK AND EXPLAINING THIS EVERY SINGLE TIME IF WEB ESTABLISH IT.
IT CAN BE CHANGED AT ANY TIME IN THE FUTURE INGALSBE I THINK I AM GOOD WITH THAT IF ONE OF THE OTHER QUESTIONS THAT I HAD THAT I THINK ATALKED TO SEVERAL OF THE DEPARTMENT HEADS ABOUT.
GOES AND IN GLOVE WITH THIS. FOLKS WHO MAY HAVE WORKED FOR 10 TO 15 YEARS IN A SPECIFIC GRADE TO MAYBE AT THE 50TH PERCENTILE AND MAYBE A MARKET ADJUSTMENT THAT THEY DID AND THE RECALCULATION OF PAY GR GRADES.
YOU MOVE THEM UP A GRADE AND MINIMUM -- NO SALARY ADJU ADJUSTMENT; HOWEVER, THEY MAY HAVE TRAINED INDIVIDUALS UNDER THEM OR WITH THEM THAT ARE NOW MAKING THE EXACT SAME AMOUNT AS THEM. AND IT IS PROBLEMATIC.
I KNOW IT HAPPENS EVERY, BUT I THINK SOME TYPE OF -- AND I DON'T KNOW. SEEMS LIKE WE ARE PUTTING A LOT ON US TODAY, SHERRY, BUT SOME WAY TO LOOK AT THAT IF YOU GOT FOUR PEOPLE AT THE SAME PAY GRADE WITH THE SAME JOB TITLE.
ONE HAVE TRAINED THE OTHER THREE PEOPLE IN THE OFFICE AND HAVE TEN YEARS MORE EXPERIENCE. WE HAVE TO ADDRESS THAT.
AND SOME FRUITFUL WAY IN THE FUTURE.
THE OTHER THING I WOULD SAY, AS WE LOOK AT THESE -- I WILL LOOK AT -- USE THE CONSTABLE OFFICE AGAIN AS AN EXAMPLE WHENEVER WE REGRADED THOSE JUSTICE CLERKS IN THE CONSTABLES OFFICES.
I THINK IT IS THE RIGHT THING TO DO TO CHANGE THE GRADES, BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE TALKED ABOUT HOW THE JUSTICE CLERKS HAVE A VERY DIFFERENT JOB DESCRIPTION AND DO DIFFERENT WORK THEN THE COUNTY CLERKS OF LAW AND THE JP OFFICES. SO THE QUESTION BECOMES, BY REDEFINING THOSE JOBS AND REDEFINING THOSE -- THE WAY THEY GO ABOUT THEM. WE DID A GOOD JOB OF REDEFINING THAT. YET AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE HAVE EMPLOYEES IN THOSE OFFICES THAT REALLY I THINK THEY PROBABLY DESERVE MORE THAN THEY ARE GETTING AND NOT A MECHANIC NOYCHL DO THAT. I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU ADDRESS THAT BUT WE HAVE SPOKEN THREE YEARS IN THE BUDGET CYCLE AND I HAVE A CONCERN OF JUST CHANGING THE GRADE JUST DOESN'T GET US TO WHERE WE NEED TO BE WITH THOSE EMPLOYEES.
DOES THAT MAKE SENSE, SHERRY? >> YES, IT DOES.
AND THAT IS A PROBLEM AND HAS BEEN.
SO IN THE LAST FOUR OR FIVE YEARS -- THIS, -- THE WAY BRITTANY HAD THIS DRAFTED WE TREATED REGRADE AND MARKET ADJUSTMENTS WE YOU TALK ABOUT THE GRADING OF THE POSITION.
THE LAST THREE OR FOUR YEARS, DEPARTMENTS REALIZE IF I GET THAT JOB REGRADED, THAT EMPLOYEE IS NOT GOING TO GET A SALARY INCREASE JUST BECAUSE OF THE REGRADE.
SO THEY HAVE ASKED FOR 6% GENERALLY FOR SALARY AND LAST YEAR THAT WAS NOT AUTHORIZED FOR A FEW REGRADES LAST YEAR AND THE SAME THIS YEAR. SO WE NEED CONSISTENCY OF HOW WE ADMINISTER REGRADES AND WHETHER WE ADMINISTER THEM.
IF WE ARE NOT GOING TO GET AN INCREASE, THAT WE GET AT LEAST WHATEVER THAT PERCENTAGE IS THAT FEELS RIGHT FOR MAYBE THE INCREASE ASSUMPTION OF HIGHER LEVEL DUTIES.
THAT IS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN JOBS ARE GRADED HIGHER.
NOT JUST -- NOT ONLY WHERE THEY ARE BENCHMARKED IN THE MARKET, BUT ALSO JOBS EVOLVE OVER TIME. AND HIGHER EXPECTATIONS.
HIGHER LICENSES WHATEVER THOSE THINGS ARE THAT HAPPEN.
SO THAT IS ONE WAY. AND ANOTHER WAY WHICH WOULD BE -- WHICH WOULD COST MORE. THAT IS EMPLOYEE ARE AT A CERTAIN POINT IN THE GRADE THEY ARE IN.
AND MOVED THEM TO A HIGHER GRADE.
AND ANOTHER WAY TO LOOK AT IT WOULD TO BE PUT THEM AT THE
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SAME POINT IN THAT NEW RANGE FOR THE SAME PERCENTILE IN THATNEW RANGE. >> I THINK IT IS EXACERBATED -- CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, EXACERBATED IN OFFICES LIKE THE CONSTABLE OFFICE WHERE ONE OF THE WAYS OUR DEPARTMENT HEADS MAKE THAT UP IN THE PAST AND A COVERING, JUDGE, YOU AND I WHEN WE DEBATED COLAS TWO BUDGET CYCLES GO.
WENT TO COLA AND NOT ALL MERIT-BASED PAY, THAT REMOVED A COOL THAT OUR FOLKS HAD IN THEIR TOOLBOX BECAUSE THEY CAN MAKE THOSE ADJUSTMENTS WITHIN A DEPARTMENT BY ALLOCATING AN ADDITIONAL AMOUNT OF THAT MERIT PAY TO THOSE INDIVIDUALS.
THE OTHER PROBLEM THAT I SEE IN THESE DEPARTMENTS LIKE THE CONSTABLES, LIKE OUR OFFICES, FOR EXAMPLE, WHERE YOU HAVE ONE EMPLOYEE BECAUSE THAT MERIT PAY TECHNICALLY IS GOOD FOR ONE EMPLOYEE. AND SO YOU CAN'T ADJUST AMONGING EMPLOYEES IF THERE ARE ADDITIONAL DUTIES OR ANYTHING ELSE. YOU CAN'T SHIFT 1% TO THAT TO ANOTHER EMPLOYEE AND TECHNICALLY THERE IS ONE EMPLOYEE. NO SHIFTING AVAILABLE.
AND SO SOMEHOW TO ADDRESS THAT. I KNOW IT FALLS HAND IN GLOVE OF WHAT WE ARE TALK ABOUT AND A REAL PROBLEM.
OUR OFFICES I THINK -- I KNOW MINE IS OKAY.
BUT I KNOW WHEN IT COMES TO THE CONSTABLES AND SOME OF THE OFFICES, WE HAVE ONE, TWO, MAYBE THREE EMPLOYEES AND HARD.
HARD FOR THOSE FOLKS TO TRY TO ADDRESS THOSE DISCREPANCIES.
>> IT IS DIFFICULT WHEN THERE IS NOT ENOUGH PEOPLE TO SPREAD THAT MERIT. THERE ARE SOME STRATEGIES THAT WE CAN DEVELOP FOR FUTURE BUDGET CYCLES TO ADDRESS.
>> I THINK ANY TIME YOU ARE DOING THEM IN MASS AMOUNTS LIKE THIS YEAR THEER IN RIGHT HAS TO BE HIGH ENOUGH FOR THE DEPARTMENT HEADS TO HAVE THOSE ISSUES TAKEN CARE OF.
THE LAST TIME WE DID A MASSIVE RESTRUCTURE OF THE GRADES, WE INCORPORATED LARGE POOLS OF MONEY PER APARTMENT NOT BASED ON A FLAT PERCENTAGE BUT BASED ON WHERE THE EMPLOYEES WERE WITHIN THEIR GRADES. ONE DEPARTMENT MIGHT HAVE GOTTEN 5% AND ONE 7%. WHEN IT COMES TO THE CONS CONSTABLES, WE SET THE PAY OF THEIR CLERKS RESPECTIVE TO THEIR TERMS OF SERVICE AT THAT TIME.
SO THAT WAS MORE THAN 5%. IT WAS PROBABLY CLOSE TO 10%.
THAT IS THE ONLY WAY TO ADDRESS IT THAT I HAVE COME UP WITH IS WHEN YOU ARE GOING TO DO LA LARGE-SCALE REGRADING OR MOVING OF YOUR RANGES, YOU WILL HAVE TO INCARP ARE THE ENOUGH MERIT SO SUPERVISORS CAN PUT THAT ON TO THOSE INDIVIDUALS THAT YOU MENTIONED.AND THEY MAY HAVE TO DO IT IN A MULTIPLE PERIOD OF TIME.INDIVIDUAL AT A MINIMUM AND WE REGRADE THAT POSITION TODAY AND THEY MOVE UP TO THE NEW MINIMUM OF -- WHAT IS THE
>> THEY GET A PRETTY BIG INCREASE, YOU KNOW, SIX MONTHS AGO -- THEY GOT A PRETTY GOOD INCREASE.
10% INCREASE OF SOMEONE SIX MONTHS AGO.
$1 RANGE. THE PERSON HIRED SIX MONTHS AGO GETS THE 10% RAISE. HOW DO YOU ACCOUNT FOR THAT.
MAY BE THE INDIVIDUAL WITH THE 10% RAISE REALIZES WILL NOT GET A MERIT FOR A WHILE. IT -- IT SHOULD BE -- IF IT IS IN LARGE SCALES AND PUT ENOUGH SCALES TO MAKE THE DEPARTMENT HAVE SOME OF THAT MOVEMENT. BUT I DON'T SEE -- HOW MANY
EMPLOYEES DOES THE COUNTY HAVE? >> 1100.
>> YOU WANT TO TAKE EVERY ONE EACH YEAR AND PLACE THEM IN THEIR RANGES BASED UPON EVERYTHING, MR. LYON -- I ASSUME HE IS BACK THERE BUTLY WOULD HAVE HEART ATTACK WITH THE TAX RATE. AND I WOULD TOO.
THAT IS THE BALANCE. SOMEWHERE IN BETWEEN -- I THINK IN THE INSTANCE OF TODAY, I THINK IF WE APPROVE WHAT WE HAVE PROPOSED THAT -- THAT THERE IS ADEQUATE PER RIGHT TO ALLOW OUR SUPERVISOR TO TAKE CARE OF SOME OF THOSE ISSUES
WITHIN THE DEPARTMENTS. >> THANK YOU.
I HAVE ONE OTHER -- TWO OTHER COMMENTS.
IN THE FY '21 BUDGET. AND ONLY ELIGIBLE TO EMPLOYEES THAT THAT HAVE ELIGIBLE SINCE OCTOBER OF 2020.
SO IN THE PAST COLA HAVE BEEN ADMINISTERED TO ANYONE WHO HAS BEEN EMPLOYED ON THE DATE THAT THE COLA WAS AVAILABLE.
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TO CLARIFY A LITTLE DIFFERENT IN BRITTANY'S DRAFT.>> DONE BOTH WAYS, I FOLLOWED SUIT THE LAST TIME.
COULD BE EVERYONE AND AS WELL ANYTHING IN THIS PARTICULAR DOCUMENT. AS A STANDARD POLICY.
>> JUDGE BECERRA: COMMISSIONERS.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? DO WE SEE A MOTION TO HELP SHAPE IT.
>> I HAVE ONE OTHER THING. AND THIS MAY JUST NEED TO BE CLARIFIED BETWEEN BRITTANY AND I, BUT IN OUR PROGRESSION PLANS WE HAVE A HANDFUL OF PROGRESSION PLANS AND THEY WERE ALL DEVELOPED AT DIFFERENT TIMES IN TERMS OF WHAT HAPPENS WHEN AN EMPLOYEE MEETS THE REQUIREMENTS TO PROGRESS.
SO IN SOME PLANS THEY MOVE TO A NEW GRADE AND WE ADMINISTER OUR GRADE MOVING POLICY AND SOME PLANS THEY STAY IN THE SAME GRADE AND GO TO EX-PERCENTILE OR GET THE EX-NUMBER OF DOLLARS. WE HAVE ONE PLAN THAT IN YEAR TWO, WE GET $1,000. IRREGARDLESS OF WHERE YOU ARE IN YOUR RANGE. BECAUSE PEOPLE -- EMPLOYEES ARE GOING TO MOVE THROUGH THEIR RANGE WITH COLA AND MERIT.
AND SO, THE GOAL OF THESE PROGRESSION PLANS IS OBVIOUSLY RECRUITMENT AND RETENTION. AND THEY DO APPEAR TO BE WORKING IN MOST AREAS THAT WE HAVE NOW FOR RETENTION.
WHAT I DON'T WANT TO HAPPEN IS THAT -- AND I THINK THIS IS THE WAY BRIT KNEE HAS THIS DRAFTED IS IF -- IF THE PLAN SAYS YOU GET AN X -- A CERTAIN DOLLAR AMOUNT YOU GO TO THE 25TH PERCENTILE. IF FOR WHATEVER REASON YOU PASSED THAT 25TH PERCENTILE, PROGRESSION GO TO THE NEXT STEP AND WILL NOT GET A SALARY INCREASE.
>> CORRECT. THAT IS IN THERE, BUT IT COULD
BE MODIFIED. >> AND WE REALLY NEED OUR DEPARTMENTS, I THINK, WHO HAVE THESE PLANS TO WEIGH IN ON
THAT. >> IN THIS CASE, CAN WE CLARIFY THAT ONE JUST FOR ME. IF YOU ARE ON A PROGRESSION PLAN AND TOO ADVANCED TO WHATEVER IT IS -- A NEW GRADE THAT INVOLVES AN INCREASE WITH $1,000 ADDITION.
AND IN YOUR PLAN THAT HAPPENS FIRST.
>> CORRECT. THERE ARE TWO SCENARIOS, FIRST OF ALL, IF IT ALL HAPPENS ON THE SAME DAY, THE PROGRESSION WOULD NOT BE ON TOP OF THE OTHERS.
SO THE COLA WILL HAPPEN FIRST AND THE PROGRESSION AND MERIT WILL BE ADDED LASTLY. THIS IS THE WAY THIS IS DRAFTED FOR THE EXAMPLE THAT I SHOWED. BUT IN THE FUTURE IF YOU WERE ALREADY AT THIS POINT WHICH IS THE LAST CLAUSE, IF YOU WERE ALREADY AT OR MORE THE CURRENT AUTHORIZED PLACEMENT.
STEPS OR PERCENT TILES THAT YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO BE TARGETED THERE AND YOU ARE ALREADY THERE, YOU WILL NOT RECEIVE A PROGRESSION. THIS IS HOW THAT IS WORDED.
>> NO LUMP SUM, NOTHING. >> IF YOU WERE ALREADY THERE AT THE PLACEMENT WHERE YOU SHOULD BE, YOU WILL NOT RECEIVE
ANYTHING, CORRECT. >> DOES THE DEPARTMENT HEAD GET THE MERIT THAT IS ALLOCATED FOR THE POSITION.
>> THEY ARE ALLOWED TO GET MERIT.
I AM TALKING OF PROGRESSION ONLY.
THE EMPLOYEE CAN GET MERIT, BUT SIMPLY -- WHEN THEY COME UP DUE FOR THEIR PROGRESSION, IF THEY ARE ALREADY THERE, THEY WILL NOT RECEIVE ANY PROGRESSION BECAUSE THEY ARE ALREADY THERE.
THAT IS THE IDEA. >> THE PROGRESSION IS -- IF YOUR PROGRESSION TAKES TO YOU $40,000 FROM $38,000 A YEAR.
YOU MOVE TO THE 40,000. YOU STILL GET THE MERIT.
>> YES, CORRECT. >> AT SOME POINT YOU HAVE GOTTEN PAST THE 40, THE PROGRESSION DOESN'T MATTER
ANYMORE. >> IF YOUR MERIT BUMPS TO YOU $42,000, YOU WILL NOT RECEIVE A PROGRESSION.
>> JUDGE BECERRA: EVERYBODY FAIRLY CONFUSED NOW.
>> I AM SORRY. >> EVERYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE
UNDERSTAND ALL THIS. >> JUDGE BECERRA: DEFINITELY -- THERE ARE IMPLICATIONS TIED TO IT AND I FULLY APPRECIATE AND UNDER STAND THE IDEA, COLA FIRST AND MERIT.
I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND IT AND GET IT ON THE NEED FOR CLARIFICATION. DO WE NEED TO MAKE A MOTION.
HOW DO WE BEST CUT YOU LOOSE. >> ITEM NUMBER 44.
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>> JUDGE BECERRA: IT WAS SUGGESTED TO ME TO HAVE THIS
>> WE CAN ASSUME THAT WOULD BE USED IF WE DON'T SAY OTHERWISE.
>> JUDGE BECERRA: THATSS RI RIGHT.
GOOD MOVE. IT WAS ALSO SUGGESTED THAT THE SHERIFF HAD COMMENTS IN THE BUDGET -- WHAT THE BUDGET HAD ON. WAS THAT TRUE OR NOT NECESSARY.
CHIEF OR SHERIFF, WHOEVER WOULD LIKE TO APPROACH THE PODIUM.
>> YOU MIGHT GET BETTER INFORMATION YOUR BUDGET OFFICER
TOO. >> I KNOW SHE IS CUTER THAN ME.
BUT I WILL GO AHEAD. THANK YOU AND GOOD EVENING.
WE HAVE THREE QUICK ITEMS WE WANT TO COME BACK TO THE COURT WITH AND ASK FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION AND LET THE CHIEF DISCUSS IN JUST A MINUTE. BEFORE WE DO, I GET A CHANCE TO PUBLICLY STAND UP AND SAY THANK YOU TO THE COURT FOR OUR BUDGET THIS YEAR AND THANK OUR COMMAND STAFF, CHIEF, FOUR CAPTAINS AND BUDGET DIRECT FOR ALL THEIR HARD WORK.
MY BUDGET IS $50 MILLION. BIGGEST IN THE COUNTY.
450 EMPLOYEES HEADED TO 500 WHICH IS LESS THAN HALF THE WHOLE COUNTY. EVOLVING JOB 24-7 ALMOST.
THAT BUDGET DIRECTOR Y'ALL GAVE HER HELP THIS YEAR.
THANK YOU FOR THAT. SHE KEEPS ME IN BUDGET.
I HAVE TEN YEARS AND I HAVE BEEN WITHIN MY BUDGET EVERY YEAR. THANK YOU FOR THAT.
>> JUDGE BECERRA: THANK YOU, SHERIFF.
VERY KIND OF YOU. >> GOOD AFTERNOON.
I DON'T WANT TO BELABOR THAT TOPIC.
THAT TOPIC IS WHAT WE ARE STRUGGLING WITH TODAY IN MAINTAINING INTERNAL EQUITY WITHIN OUR CIVILIAN EMPLOYEES.
AND THE EXAMPLES THAT COMMISSIONER SMITH AND SHELL GAVE ARE EXACTLY WHAT WE ARE EXPERIENCING RIGHT NOW.
I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU DO IT. VICKY.
2% MERIT DOESN'T GIVE US A LOT OF WIGGLE ROOM TO CREATE THAT INTERNAL EQUITY. AS COMMISSIONER SHELL TO HIS POINT, I DON'T THINK THAT IS VALUABLE AT LEAST FOR US AND I CAN ONLY SPEAK FOR US TO HELP US MAINTAIN AND GET IT HERE.
WE ARE EXPERIENCING THE PERSON WHO WAS AT A HIGHER PERCENTILE GETTING REGRADED GOING BACK TO THE MINIMUM.
AND NOW THAT PERSON IS EQUAL WITH EVERYBODY THAT -- EVERY NEW PERSON, RIGHT. 2% DOESN'T GET HER VERY FAR AHEAD OF THEM. WHERE THEY NEED TO BE.
AND QUITE HONESTLY IT BECOMES DEMORALIZING TO THEM AND THEY LOOK AT US AND SAY I FEEL LIKE I AM GUEST GETTING MISTREATED HERE SOMEHOW YOU. IT IS NOT FAIR.
EVEN THOUGH I UNDERSTAND THE WORLD IS NOT FAIR.
ANYWAY, THAT WAS JUST ONE OF OUR POINTS AND A GOOD SEGUE TO
MAKE IT. >> JUDGE BECERRA: CHIEF, YOU SAID YOU WEREN'T SURE AND A SUGGESTION, RECOMMENDATION?
>> A LOT A LOT OF SUGGESTIONS. >> JUDGE BECERRA: OF COURSE YOU DO.
>> DO YOU WANT TO ORDER FOOD TONIGHT?
>> NOT A GOOD QUESTION. >> JUST MOVE ON.
>> JUDGE BECERRA: I CAN'T BELIEVE I SAID THAT.
>> IS THERE A WAY TO FINAGLE -- AGAIN, DO AWAY WITH THE COLA, ADD THE 2% COLA TO THE MERIT GIVES US MORE FLEXIBILITY TO MOVE PEOPLE WITHIN THE RANGE. SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINES.
I DON'T KNOW. >> JUDGE BECERRA: JUST AS A -- JUST AS A JUST IN CASE, FOR INSTANCE, HYPOTHETICAL, IF WE HAD TO SAY THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE NO COLA, JUST MERIT.
THAT WILL HELP YOU. >> YES, IT WOULD.
>> ONE OTHER QUESTION IN LOOKING AT THAT.
IF WE IN LOOKING AT THOSE -- I DON'T KNOW HOW THE NUMBERS WILL WORK ON THIS WITH ALL THE REGRADES WE DID.
THE VAST NUMBER OF REGRADES THAT WE DID.
I KNOW IT WOULD BE AN AUDITOR'S NIGHTMARE.
I APOLOGIZE BEFOREHAND. OF ALL OF THE REGRADES.
IF YOU SAID WANTED TO MAINTAIN SOME TYPE OF COLO, MAINTAIN THE COLA FOR ALL EMPLOYEES AND REGRADES JUST TO ADDRESS THE REGRADES AND ON ANYONE TRYING TO REGRADE, WE WILL REMOVE THAT 2% COLA AND DO MERIT ON THOSE. THAT SOMETHING THAT IS POSSIBLE AUDITOR'S OFFICE OR NO? IS THERE PROBLEM WITH EQUITY.
>> JUDGE BECERRA: BRITTANY SEEMS TO HAVE AN OPINION.
>> I KNOW IT WOULD BE ANING NIGHTMARE.
I AM ASKING YOU. >> FOR IMPLEMENTING THAT.
I AM NOT EXACTLY SURE WHAT YOUR INTENTION IS BUT MY IMPRESSION IS, IF WE WERE TO ELIMINATE THE COST OF LIVING FROM ANYONE RECEIVING AN AUTOMATIC, IT MAKES NO DIFFERENCE, BECAUSE
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SOMEBODY THAT IS IN A GRADE INCREASE THAT IS NOT AT THE MINIMUM HAS TO BE PUT TO THE MINIMUM WHICH IS THE 2%.AND IF WE DID IT ALL MERIT GIVES MORE FREE TOMORROW -- FREEDOM AND THEY WOULD HAVE GOTTEN THE 2% AND I WOULD WANT TO MOVE THEM UP HIGHER THAN SOMEBODY JUST HIRED.
ALLOWING THAT FULMER RIGHT FOR THOSE EMPLOYEES WOULD GIVE A HIGHER OF A PERCENTTILE AND A PERSON WITH TEN YEARS OF SERVICE AND ANOTHER PERSON WHO WAS JUST HIRED.
I DON'T KNOW IF I AM MAKING SENSE, BUT I THINK IF WE WERE TO REMOVE THE MANDATORY TO ONLY THE PEOPLE GETTING THE GRADE INCREASES IT IS NOT GOING TO AFFECT THEM MUCH BECAUSE IT WILL ONLY RECEIVE A DOLLAR VALUE TO THAT BECAUSE WE ARE AT
THE MINIMUM. >> PERFECTLY ANSWERED MY
QUESTIONS. >> JUDGE BECERRA: SO THE ADMINISTRATION OF AS A SUP SUPPORTING -- IN THE SAME VAIN.
IF I WERE TO MAKE A MOTION TO TAKE THE COLA OUT OF SHERIFF'S OFFICE. I KNOW I WOULD BE TOLD TO DEFUND THE POLICE, AND THOSE WHO CARE WILL KNOW THAT I AM TRYING TO HELP THE POLICE. I WOULD GET THIS THUMBS UP FROM THE LEADERSHIP OF THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE TO SAY TAKE AWAY THE COLA, PUT IT IN ALL MERIT. SHERIFF'S OFFICE ONLY.
AND THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL AND DOABLE?
>> YOU ARE PUTTING OUR OTHER DEPARTMENT HEADS AT A STRATEGIC DISADVANTAGE. ACROSS THE BOARD.
>> JUDGE BECERRA: THAT IS WHAT I AM WONDERING.
>> THE REASON IT WAS SUGGESTED TO STRUCTURE IT THIS WAY IS DUE TO COMPRESSION. WE HAVE ABOUT 130 EMPLOYEES THAT ARE GOING TO BE SITTING AT THE NEW MINIMUM ONCE YOU MOVE THE CHART. EVERYBODY BELOW WILL MOVE UP TO THE NEW MINIMUM. NOW YOU HAVE THIS OTHER GROUP THAT IS NOW AT THAT MINIMUM AND WITHOUT MOVING EVERYONE, THAT IS BELOW THE MINIMUM. THEN YOU ALREADY HAVE STARTED COMPRESSING AND STARTING THEM OUT AT THE SAME AS THIS OTHER GROUP THAT JUST -- YOU JUST MOVED THE CHART FOR.
>> WE ADDRESS BY RETURNING THE CLA TO ALL MERIT.
>> DEBBIE INGALSBE: IF DO YOU IT FOR ONE, YOU NEED TO DO IT
FOR EVERYONE. >> THE OTHER PROBLEM -- I AGREE WITH YOU. THAT IS PROBABLY THE BEST WAY TO GO ABOUT IT. IF WE DID SOME BIFURCATED PROCESS OVER TIME, IT WILL CREATE EVEN A LARGER DISPARITY.
>> I DO HAVE -- I HAD A CONVERSATION WITH COMMISSIONER SHELL. AND ONCE WE GO OVER THE DETAILS I IDENTIFY SOME FUNDING TO ACTUALLY HAVE AN ADDITIONAL 1% ADD $IF THE COURT CHOSE TO DO A TOTAL 5% SO 2% COLA.
3% MERIT COULD BE A POTENTIAL SOLUTION.
>> HOW DOES THAT SOUND? >> AND I UNDERSTAND VICKY'S CONCERN OF THE COMPRESSION AND I THINK WE MENTION IT HAD THE LAST TIME. SINCE THERE ARE SO MANY MOVEMENTS, I THINK I WILL BE SUPPORTIVE OF MAKING IT ALL MERIT, BUT ASKS THAT ALL OF OUR DEPARTMENT HEADS AND OFFICIALS TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THE LONG-TERM ISSUES OF HOW THEY DISTRIBUTE THE MERIT WOULD BE VERY IMPORTANT.
BECAUSE, AGAIN, WHAT WE WOULD SEE IS SOMEBODY COMING BACK TO US MID-YEAR OR NEXT BUDGET YEAR SAYING A PROBLEM AND A PROBLEM THAT WAS CREATED BY OUR OWN ACTIONS.
AND THAT -- AND -- THAT IS THE ISSUE THOUGH.
IS CAN WE DO THAT IN A WAY THAT DOESN'T PUT US IN A SITUATION THAT VICKY JUST MENTIONED. THAT CAN BE DONE, I WOULD PREFER THE ALL MERIT IN THE CASE BECAUSE EVERYBODY IS TECHNICALLY MOVING BELOW THE GRADE OR GOING TO BE BELOW THE GRADE AND 100 THAT VICKY JUST MENTIONED AND ALL OF THESE NEW GRADE CHANGES THAT OUR DEPARTMENT AS ELECT $OFFICIALS WILL HAVE A HARD TIME ADDRESSING WITH THE EXPLANATION THAT THE SHERIFF JUST TALKED ABOUT.
I COMMEND DEPARTMENT HEADS AND ELECTED OFFICIALS THAT THE SHERIFF IS ONE. WELL, I WILL TAKE SOMETHING OUT TO PAY FOR THAT. YOU KNOW, I WILL CUT IN ORDER TO TAKE CARE OF THOSE EMPLOYEES BECAUSE I KNOW THAT THIS L LONG-TERM EMPLOYEE OR TWO EMPLOYEES WILL BE AT THE SAME MINIMUM AS SOMEONE HIRED TWO MONTHS AGO.
UNFORTUNATELY IF WE WERE TO APPLY THAT COUNTYWIDE, WE WOULD
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HAVE A SITUATION THAT WE JUST -- THAT WOULD PUT NEWS EVEN WORSE SHAPE, YOU KNOW, IN THE FUTURE AS FAR AS AN EQUITY STANDPOINT GOES AS FAR AS ALL OUR EMPLOYEES FROM THEIR PERSPECTIVE, TO UNDERSTAND IT. TAKE CARE OF EMPLOYEES.I AM FOR AT THIS TIME PUTTING THIS FOR MERIT TO ADDRESS THESE
KIND OF ISSUES. >> I DO HAVE ONE CLARIFICATION.
ON THE MERIT IF ALL YOU MERIT OR EVEN IF 2% WAS MERIT THAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW, NO MANDATE ON THAT MERIT THAT HAS TO BE -- THIS THE OTHER THING I THINK IS HELPFUL.NO MANDATE THAT THAT HAS TO BE DEDICATED BY OCTOBER AND WHATEVER.
AND I THINK THE FLEXIBILITY IT GIVES.
THAT MANY NEW EMPLOYEES THAT HAVEN'T BEEN -- OR NEWER EMPLOYEES. IF THEY DEDICATE THIS ALL TO MERIT THAT THE 2% THAT THE NEW EMPLOYEE WOULD GET, IT GIVES THE DEPARTMENT HEAD OR THE DIRECTOR THE ABILITY THAT THEY DON'T HAVE TO GIVE THAT 2% RAISE AUTOMATICALLY.
BUT THEY -- SIX MONTHS IN, IF THEY ARE A GREAT EMPLOYEE OR TEN MONTHS IN, THEY HAVE THE ABILITY TO MAKE THAT ADJUSTMENTS TO THAT EMPLOYEE SALARY WHERE IT COULD BE NEEDED AND GIVE US AN OPPORTUNITY SO SOME OF THE EXISTING EMPLOYEES TO SAY THIS IS WHAT WE WANT TO DO ON THE FRONT END BUT AT THE END OF THE FISCAL YEAR HAVE THE ABILITY TO, WE ARE GOING TO TRY TO TAKE CARE OF AND YOU GIVE THE DEPARTMENT HEADS AND DIRECTORS EVEN MORE FLEXIBILITY THAN THEY WOULD OTHERWISE, IS
THAT CORRECT? >> I WOULD JUST SAY ALL OF YOUR NEW EMPLOYEES WILL GET A 4%. ALL OF THE NEW EMPLOYEES WILL MOVE TO THE 4%. IT'S THAT EMPLOYEE THAT HAS BEEN HERE THE YEAR OR MORE THAT IS MAYBE NOT -- THEY ARE AT THE CURRENT MINIMUM AND SLIGHTLY ABOVE, MAYBE 2%.
THEY GOT THAT COLA. AND THAT GROUP THAT IS ABOUT 130 PEOPLE THAT POTENTIALLY NOT GIVE ANYTHING.
>> COMMISSIONER INGALSBE? >> DEBBIE INGALSBE: WELL, I GUESS TO ADD ON TO WHAT YOU SAID, COMMISSIONER.
YOU CAN DELAY THE MERIT. IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE GIVEN WHATEVER DATE WE DESIGNATE IT. IT CAN BE DELAYED.
I GUESS MY QUESTION AND I WANT CLARIFICATION BECAUSE I DON'T RECALL. IF IT IS DELAYED, IS THE
DEPARTMENT AID ABLE TO USE IT. >> IT IS ANNUALIZED.
>> DEBBIE INGALSBE: I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE BECAUSE I DIDN'T WANT SOME TO THINK DELAY IT IS.
>> IN MY OFFICE BASED ON THE DAY THAT THE DEPARTMENT HEAD DETERMINES. IN THEY DETERMINE THAT THE EMPLOYEE SHOULD GET $100 AS OF NOVEMBER 1, THEY DON'T GIVE THEM $1,000 FOR EACH -- $100 FROM EACH MONTH ON.
IT IS RETROACTIVE TO OCTOBER. THEY HAVE TO SPEND THE IF YOU WILL $100 FOR THE YEAR IF THAT MAKES SENSE.
JUST THAT THEY WOULD MISS OUT ON THAT FIRST MANATEE AND MAY BE GOOD REASONS WHY PROBATIONARY FOR THE EMPLOYEE AND NOT PERFORMING UP TO PAR AND OTHER REASONS WHERE YOU MIGHT WANT TO DELAY THAT AND EXTENDED AS AN ANNUAL EXPENSE.
>> GOTCHA. >> JUDGE BECERRA: I WOULD RATHER MOVE IT ALL TO THE MERIT INSTEAD OF ADD A PERCENTAGE
POINT PERSONALLY. >> I WOULD AGREE WITH THAT.
>> JUDGE BECERRA: I WAS ASKING AND I KNOW THEY WERE IN CONVERSATION, BUT THAT SEEMS TO BE A GOOD SOLUTION FOR ALMOST HALF OF OUR DEPARTMENTS -- OUR COUNTRY CREW.
THAT SOUNDS LIKE A THUMBS UP WIN FOR YOU, RIGHT?
>> IT IS. HELPS US MOVE IN THE DIRECTION
WE NEED TO GO. >> JUDGE BECERRA: PERFECT.
I MOVE WE CONVERT OUR TWO AND TWO TO ALL MERIT.
>> SECOND. >> WALT SMITH: ONE QUESTION, THE QUESTION IS DO WE WANT TO HOLD OFF ON THIS UNTIL THE DISCUSSION THAT VICKY JUST BROUGHT UP.
INSTEAD OF TWO AND TWO. WE END UP WITH FIVE.
>> I AM STILL SUPPORTIVE OF LOOKING AT THAT, BUT I BELIEVE
IN ALL MERIT. >> WE CAN GO AHEAD AND DO THAT.
THAT MAY CHANGE IN OUR DISCUSSION.
>> JUDGE BECERRA: ALL MERIT AND NEXT AGENDA ITEM.
>> JUST FOR -- JUDGE JUDGE FOR CLARIFICATION.
>> FOR CLARIFICATION GOING FORWARD.
WE ACTUALLY HAVE FIVE AGENDA ITEMS TODAY TO GET -- AND ALL OF THE DISCUSSION WILL NEED TO HAPPEN HERE AND WE WILL HAVE AN ITEM TO ACCEPT ALL OF CHANGES THAT HAVE DISCUSSED.
BUT DON'T WANT TO VOTE ON THESE THINGS AND YOU CAN DURING THIS PUBLIC HEARING, BUT WE CAN ACCEPT THE CHANGES THAT YOU CAN
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DECIDE DURING THE PUBLIC HEARING.>> BUT I ALSO LIKE HOW DO YOU EAT AN ELEPHANT ONE BITE OF A TIME APPROACH. SO THE VIEWING PUBLIC CAN KEEP UP WITH WHAT WE ARE DOING MORE EASILY.
I UNDERSTAND AND APPRECIATE THE OPTION.
IT IS BEFORE US. THE CHIEF, THE SHERIFF AND THE CONVERSATION AND WE SHOULD HAVE CLOSURE OF THAT CONVERSATION.
>> OTHER ITEMS AS WELL. SO I WANTED TO MAKE SURE OFF IF YOU WILL PICTURE BECAUSE OTHER THINGS -- OTHER DEPARTMENTS THAT AREN'T HERE HAVE ASKED F FOR.
AND COMMISSIONERS HAVE ASKED FOR.
SO I WANTED TO GIVE YOU ALL AN IDEA TO KIND OF GO OVER EVERYTHING.
>> JUDGE BECERRA: BUT MY -- MY MOTION AND SECOND AND DISCUSSION AT THIS TIME IS COMFORTING FOR ME NO ADDITION IT WILL MONEY ADDED TO IT. JUST A RESHIFTING OF WHICH I FIND COMFORTING AND NOT IN A DETRIMENT OF DEPARTMENT HEADS.
SMART AND SAFETY AND EASY. CALL THE ROLL.
>> DEBBIE INGALSBE: YES. >> WALT SMITH: YES.
>> MARK JONES: YES. >> LON SHELL: YES.
>> JUDGE BECERRA: YES. AND WE CAN ADDRESS FUTURE PERCENTAGE AND THINGS AS WE MOVE ALONG.
>> I THINK VICKY HAS A LIST. >> AT THE CLOSING OF THE PUBLIC HEARING TAKE A TWO-MINUTE RECESS.
>> JUDGE BECERRA: ABSOLUTELY. CHIEF, ANYTHING ELSE.
>> ABSOLUTELY. A FEW MORE THING.
WE WERE APPROVED -- RECORD MANAGEMENT OFFICERS.
WE WERE APPROVED FOR TWO TO START IN APRIL.
WORKING WITH VICKY, WE IDENTIFIED THE FUNDS TO GET THEM TO START IN OCTOBER. SO WE WOULD LIKE -- LIKE TO GET THAT -- SEE THAT HAPPEN. AND THEN OUR THOUGHT IS FEBRUARY, MARCH, TO COME BACK AND SEE IF WE HAVE SAVINGS TO GET THE OTHER TWO THAT WERE NOT APPROVED THIS TIME.
THE RECORD MANAGEMENT OFFICERS WERE GOING TO BE AN EXTREMELY IMPORTANT PART OF OUR OPER OPERATION, ESPECIALLY WHEN SENATE BILL 111 KICKED OFF AND STAFFED CORRECTLY.
ONE OF LAST THINGS -- I PROMISE I AM ALMOST DONE.
>> JUDGE BECERRA: BEFORE YOU GO TO THE NEXT ONE, CHIEF.
YOU SAID YOU IDENTIFIED FUNDS. >> YES.
>> JUDGE BECERRA: I WOULD LIKE YOU AUTO IDENTIFY THEM OUT
LOUD. >> I WILL HAVE TO ASK VICKY.
I LISTEN TO HER WHAT SHE SAID. SHE SAID COULD MAKE IT HAPPEN.
>> JUDGE BECERRA: LAST THING. NO PRESSURE.
>> I BELIEVE LAST YEAR WE EXTENDED OUR VACATION USAGE TO DECEMBERISH. OCTOBER, SEPTEMBER 30 IS THE CUTOFF. WE HAVE ROUGHLY 50 EMPLOYEES THAT AS OF YESTERDAY STAND TO LOSE VACATION HOURS.
SOME OF THESE PEOPLE CAN'T TAKE OFF OUR.
THEY WILL MAKE COVID EFFECTS US WHEN PEOPLE ARE OFF SICK, CAN'T TAKE OFF. WE WILL ASK THAT YOU CONSIDER DOING THE SAME THING THIS YEAR AND EXTENDING THAT TO DECEMBER
OR -- END OF DECEMBER. >> DEBBIE INGALSBE: THE END OF
DECEMBER. >> JUDGE BECERRA: NO FINANCIAL
I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS THE RIGHT TIME --
>> JUDGE BECERRA: IT IS. >> DO WE NEED AN AGENDA ITEM FOR THAT? JUST BRING IT BACK --
>> CAN WE INSTRUCT THE STAFF TO NOT -- WE WON'T BE MEETING UNTIL OCTOBER TO NOT ERASE THE VACATION DAYS?
>> YES. >> AGAIN I WILL TELL MY STAFF
THANK YOU, GO AWAY, CHIEF. NOW PLEASE, WALK AWAY FROM THE PODIUM.
>> HE IS GOING TO RUN OUT OF FINGERS IN A MINUTE.
>> THAT'S RIGHT. >> WITH OUR JAIL RECONSTRUCTION PROJECT AND RENOVATION. IT WAS IDENTIFIED AN ISSUE WAS IDENTIFIED THAT WE DO NOT HAVE ENOUGH VISITATION FOR ATTO
ATTORNEYS. >> JUDGE BECERRA: VISITATION
WHAT? >> VISITATION FOR ATTORNEYS.
AND I BELIEVE WE ACTUALLY CAME TO COURT TO -- TO -- SO YOU CAN AUTHORIZE STARTING SOMETHING. ANYWAY, YOU KNOW, --
>> JUDGE BECERRA: YEAH, OKAY. >> I JUST WANTED TO -- THAT GOING TO BE A BUDGETED ITEM? OR IS THAT --
>> IT IS ACTUALLY ON THE LIST OF ITEMS. I RECEIVED A CALL FROM TERRY WHITMAN, THERE WAS SOME CONCERN ABOUT FUNDING THE JAIL VISITATION.
SO I WANTED THE CHIEF TO SPEAK SPECIFICALLY OF THE PROJECT AND WE CAN USE FEDERAL FUND RES RESERVES IF THE COURT AND W
WITHED TO DO SO. >> JUDGE BECERRA: CHIEF, I AM
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NODDING YES BECAUSE I ALREADY HEARD THAT.>> JUST TO KEEP YOU GUYS UPDATED, THIS IS WHERE WE ARE
WITH IT. >> HOW MUCH SPACE ARE WE SHORT?
>> WELL, WHAT WE ARE WANTING TO ADD.
RIGHT NOW WE HAVE A TOTAL OF TWO ATTORNEY VISITATION SPOTS.
WE WANT TO MAKE THAT TEN. >> JUDGE BECERRA: WOW, A BIG
SOMEHOW -- I DON'T KNOW WHY WE DIDN'T ADD ANYTHING IN THE DESIGN. MAYBE WE DID AND IT GOT CUT.
IT WAS ALMOST FOUR AND A HALF YEARS AGO WHEN WE DID THAT.
ANYWAY, WE RECOGNIZE THE NEED FOR IT.
AND THIS -- WITHOUT THEM, IT SLOWS DOWN THE JUSTICE PROCESS.
SO I THINK IT IS WELL WARR WARRANTED.
>> I KNOW IN YOUR BUDGET LAST YEAR YOU SPECIFICALLY REQUESTED AN ADDITION -- ADDITIONAL OFFICERS FOR VISITATION.
DO YOU NEED ANY ADDITIONAL STAFFING FOR THOSE ADDITIONAL
TEN ROOMS? >> THAT IS A PART OF OUR STAFFING PLAN WHICH IS GETTING DONE PIECE BY PIECE.
>> I AM NOT TRYING TO PUT ANYBODY'S FEET TO THE FIRE, I PROMISE. BUT I HAVE TO ASK, ERRORS AND OMISSIONS. A SPACE TO LEAN IN ON THAT OR IS THAT NOT PART OF OURSELF RANCE.
>> ONLY FOR DESIGN COSTS WHICH WILL BE CONSIDERED TO BE
EXTREMELY MINERAL. >> CROSSED MY MIND AND I DIDN'T KNOW IF IT WAS SOMETHING TO RECOUP AN EFFORT TO SUPPORT YOUR REQUEST. THANK YOU, CHIEF.
>> THANK YOU. >> JUDGE BECERRA: YOU DROPPED A STINK BOMB AND WALKED AWAY.
THANK YOU, SHERIFF. >> JUDGE BECERRA: HE IS WATCHING YOU. OKAY.
SO WE ARE STILL OPEN IN THIS SPACE.
AND WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO WHILE WE ARE STILL HERE AND STILL SEE IT. I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO FIND A WAY TO TURN THAT PART-TIME POSITION TO A IF YOU WILL-TIME POSITION FOR JUDE IN THE VETERANS ADMINISTRATION OFFICE.
I THINK I WOULD. >> VICKY HAS THAT ON THE LIST.
WE ARE GOING TO LET YOU LOOSE FOR THAT.
>> JUDGE BECERRA: USC-JJSC1029
>> GO THROUGH ALL OF YOUR NUMBERS.
OKAY, GOOD. >> WE WILL TAKE A FIVE.
>> WE ARE BACK FROM A SHORT RECESS.
SOMETIME FOR DOCUMENTATION CREATION.
TO THE PODIUM, LIKE TO SAY A FEW WORDS.
>> THANK YOU, JUDGE. THE CONSTABLE OF THE PRECINCT 3 OUT OF THE AREA. FINISHED UP MY FIRST YEAR WAS ABLE TO KEEP ALL THE OFFICERS THAT WERE THERE, WE BUILD IN MY OPINION AN AMAZING TEAM. BUT A BIT OF A DILEMMA I NEED TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT. IN THE LAST TWO OR THREE WEEKS A COUPLE MEETINGS WITH THE MANAGER OF WOODCREEK THEY HAVE HIRED A CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICER WHICH IS FINE, THAT IS WHAT THEY NEEDED TO DO I DID NOT PUT THIS CONFERENCE TOGETHER. I INHERITED IT, NOTHING WRONG WITH THAT I HONORED THE CONTRACT.
IT APPEARS THEY ARE NOT GOING TO RENEW THAT CONTRACT OR CANCEL IT, ALONG THE LINES OF WHAT WE DEAL WITH THE CITY.
WE WERE ASKED WHAT WOULD CHANGE PSHALL WE NOT HAVE THIS CONTRACT. BASICALLY A COUPLE OF ORDINANCES, FOR THE MOST PART IT WILL NOT KEEP US FROM WOODCREEK LIKE WE DO OTHER SUBDIVISIONS.
OR TAKEN THE CALL IT THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE IS BUSY THEY CANNOT GET TO IT SO MY DILEMMA IS I DON'T WANT TO LAY OFF ONE OF THESE OFFICERS. PROPOSED I HAVE AN OFFICER IN THE BUDGET IN APRIL. I RESPECTFULLY REQUEST THAT THAT OFFICER BE MOVED FROM APRIL TO OCTOBER 1. BECAUSE THAT WAY ALLOW ME, IT APPEARS THERE WILL NOT DO THE CONTRACT ANYMORE. I CAN TAKE THAT POSITION AND TAKE ONE OF THE OFFICERS AND PUT IT IN THAT POSITION AND NOT HAVE TO LAY ANYBODY OFF. THAT IS PRETTY MUCH THE WAY IT
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IS. >> WHEN DOES THE CONTRACT END?
>> CONTINUOUS CORRECT UNLESS IT IS CANCELED BY ONE OF THE
PARTIES IN 30 DAYS. >> CAN WE JUST MAKE IT EFFECTIVE WHEN THE CONTRACT IS TERMINATED OR DO WE HAVE TO
MAKE IT FOR OCTOBER 1? >> IF WE DECIDE TO DO WHAT HE
>> THAT WITH THE AGENCY AND THEY HAVEN'T BEEN PROVIDING THE
SERVICE. >> MAY BE TOO CLARIFY, IF THE POSITION IS MOVED TO OCTOBER 1 IT WOULD BE THERE.
OBVIOUSLY IT WOULDN'T BE FILLED BECAUSE THEY WANT IT TO BE
FILLED, CANCELED. >> I WOULD HAVE A POSITION TO PUT THAT OFFICER IN. BASICALLY OCTOBER 13.
THROUGH THEIR ATTORNEY, THROUGH MR. KENNEDY HERE, THAT CAN TAKE TIME BUT WORKING WITH THE AUDITOR'S OFFICE, WE WOULD HAVE THAT THERAPY IT WOULD SIT VACANT IF YOU WILL FOR MAYBE
TWO WEEKS. >> I THINK THE WORST CASE WE DO NOT KNOW WHEN THAT COULD HAPPEN IT COULD HAPPEN AT THE NEXT MEETING. IT WILL BE NICE TO HAVE THE FULL COVERAGE FOR THE YEAR. EAR.
GUARANTEE WE WILL NOT HAVE TO HAVE AN OFFICER THAT DOESN'T HAVE A BREAK IN SERVICE OR A JOB.
>> NOT GOING TO BE OVERLAPPING IN ANY WAY.
>> TALKING TO THE SCHOOL ABOUT ICKING UP SOME MORE FUNDING FOR THE SERVICES THAT WE DO. WE MIGHT MAKE UP FOR ANY OF THAT THERE THAT IS THE GOAL. A POSITIVE RESPONSE SO FAR. THE OFFICERS THAT WE USED FOR SCHOOL TRAFFIC IS AN APPLICANT AMOUNT OF MAN-HOURS FOR THE ENTIRE STAFF HOPING THAT WE CAN
WORK TOGETHER WITH THE SCHOOL. >> WITH THE CONTRACT, SCHOOL DISTRICT AND WOODCREEK, WE HAVE A NET OF THREE OFFICERS.
WITH OUR COURTS AND WHAT WE DO, WE WORK DURING THE WEEK.E WORK 10 HOURS A DAY SO WE CAN CATCH THE MORNING SCHOOL AND THE EVENING SCHOOL. ONE OFFICER ON MONDAY AND TWO FRIDAY. APPRECIATIVE OF GETTING ONE.
BECAUSE THE WAY IT IS GOING OUT THERE, WE STICK TO WHAT WE DO CONSTITUTIONALLY HOWEVER, WE WANT TO TAKE CARE OF OUR PEOPLE. THIS MORNING, RESPONSE PROTOCOL DRILL.O MANY THINGS WE DO. OUTSIDETHE SCOPE OF THE GOVERNMENT.HAT IS THE WAY IT IS, INTO WHAT WE DO OR THEM AS FAR AS CRIMINAL ACTIVITY, IN THE LOW PERCENTAGE TO WHAT YOU DO TO HELP THE COMMUNITY. SO ANYWAY THAT IS WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO REQUEST. IN THE BUDGET FOR APRIL 1, OCTOBER 1 AVAILABLE WHEN THE WOODCREEK COUNSEL IS.
THEIR ATTORNEY, MR. KENNEDY WORKING THAT OUT.
DOCUMENTED YOUR REQUEST.>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH AT THIS
POINT, BACK TO ME. >> THANK YOU.
>> I AM GOING TO SAY THIS BEFORE I FORGET THIS TIME JUST BEFORE VICKI GETS STARTED. THE WORK THAT OUR OFFICE AND VICKI PUTS INTO DOING THIS IS REALLY NOT UNDERSTANDABLE UNLESS YOU WITNESSED IT IN DEPTH.
AS YOU WELL KNOW I GET SOME OWNERSHIP OF THE BUDGET SOMETIMES PROBABLY MORE SO THAN IT SHOULD.
I DO GET INVOLVED, DURING THIS PROCESS IT IS NOT UNCOMMON FOR ME TO CALL VICKI OR STOP BY AND TALK AND HAVE INPUT AND TO GET RESPONSES BACK. WITH MY LIST THAT I HAVE REQUESTED WHICH VICKI ALWAYS DOES EVEN IF SHE DISAGREES WITH WHAT I WANT TO DO. I KNOW THAT SOMETIMES WE GET IN
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THE HEAT OF THE MOMENT HERE, ARE READY TO GET OUT OF HERE AND I FORGET TO SAY THAT I DO APPRECIATE ALL THE WORK THATGOES INTO THIS PREPARATION. >> I ALSO SEE THAT VERY FRONT AND CENTER, TOTALLY GRATEFUL. INTERACTIONS, CONTINUOUSLY, I WAS SO INTERESTED IN CREATING ADDITIONAL SUPPORT BY THAT ITEMS FOR THE BUDGET OFFICE TO HELP THEM ALLEVIATE SOME OF THAT LOAD THAT YOU AND I BOTH KNOW VERY WELL ARE ON.
THANK YOU, APPRECIATE IT. >> A LOT OF TIMES I DO NOT KNOW IF YOU ARE STARTING OR FINISHING UP, I APPRECIATE IT.
PLEASE DO NOT APOLOGIZE FOR YOUR WORK ON THE BUDGET.
>> THANK YOU, VICKI. >> SO TO RECAP, WHERE WE LIFT OFF ON AUGUST 24 THE COURT VOTED ON A PROPOSED BUDGET.
SET A TAX RATE. AT THAT POINT THE TAX RATE CANNOT DECREASE, INCREASE. POTENTIALLY DECREASE THE TAX RATE. THE BUDGET IS PRETTY MUCH SAID, NO WORKSHOPS SINCE AUGUST 24 TAKEN THE TIME TO MEET WITH DEPARTMENTS, GO OVER QUOTES AND WORKED WITH DEPARTMENTS ON THE PGRANT BUDGETS. SO A LOT OF THIS IS GOING TO BE CLEANUP ITEMS. SOME DEPARTMENTS HAVE CALLED, THERE WERE THINGS MISSING. ADDING THOSE THINGS BACK IN TRYING TO ADDRESS THOSE THINGS BEFORE WE DO THE FINAL TODAY.
IF YOU RECALL WHEN THE COURT VOTED IN THE BUDGET ON THE 24TH, $10,136 LEFT. SO STARTING OUT WITH THAT FUNDING AVAILABLE. ADDITIONALLY, THE COURT VOTED TO MOVE THE SPECIALTY COURT POSITIONS THAT WERE BUDGETED WITHIN THE BUDGET TO THE FUNDING HOWEVER THE GENERAL FUND PORTION AND NOT GET DEDUCTED SO WE HAVE THAT SAVINGS AS WELL. ALSO THE COUNTY JUDGE HAD INCLUDED IN HIS BUDGET 36,500 TO ESTABLISH POSITIONS AT A LATER DATE FOR THE CONSTABLES. HOSE POSITIONS WERE ACTUALLY ESTABLISHED DURING THE PROPOSED BUDGET.
AVAILABLE FOR YOU TO REDISTRIBUTE.
THE NEXT FEW LINES ON THIS SPREADSHEET ACTUALLY TIED TO SOME RECONCILIATIONS THAT I DID, I WORKED WITH SHERRY, THE HR DEPARTMENT TO IDENTIFY ANY RE-GRADES OR TITLE CHANGES THAT DID NOT GET IDENTIFIED WHEN WE WERE HERE ON THE 24TH.
PROBABLY ON THE THIRD OR FOURTH PAGE, THE HR RECOMMENDED.
THE HIGHLIGHTED AREAS ARE THE ITEMS THAT CHANGED.
THE MAJORITY OF THEM ARE JUST IDENTIFYING THAT SOME OF THOSE REGRADES ACTUALLY HAD THE RETITLE AS WELL.
THERE WERE A COUPLE OF POSITIONS THAT WERE LIFT OFF OF THE HR RECOMMENDED REGRADE THAT ARE PICKED UP IN THIS AS WELL.
THE TOTAL IMPACT OF THOSE REGRADES AGAIN RECOMMENDED BY HR IS $10,887. I MET WITH THE IT DEPARTMENT, DISCUSSED PRICING CHANGES SO THERE HAS BEEN VARIOUS CHANGES OBVIOUSLY SINCE THE BUDGET WAS INITIALLY INPUT.
ERICA AND THE DEPARTMENT UPDATED ALL THE PRICING.
WENT THROUGH THE LINE ITEMS, DETERMINED IF THERE WERE REPLACEMENTS THAT EITHER HAD ALREADY BEEN REPLACED AND NOT WARRANT BEING REPLACED OR MAYBE HAD BEEN LIFT OFF ABOUT TWO PAGES OF CORRECTIONS ON THE IT PRICING.
THAT FACT IS 48,000 SAVINGS. THE NEXT LINE IS THE GRANT BUDGETS. THERE WASN'T SIGNIFICANT CHANGE IN THE GRANT BUDGETS ONE OF THE BUDGETED EXPENSES FOR ONE OF
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THE GRANTS THAT WE RECEIVED, FOR CIVIC LIFE WAS FOR ELECTIONS, SECURITY AND IT ACTUALLY ENDED THIS FUNDING WAS RECEIVED, THAT EXPENSE ACTUALLY ROLLED TO THE 22 BUDGET HOWEVER THE FUNDING WILL HAVE TO BE RETURNED SO THAT EXPENSE DID NOT HAVE REVENUE TIED TO IT THAT IS WHY YOU SEE THE LARGE INCREASE OF SAVINGS AND THE GRANT BUDGETS.A PAGE THAT HAS ALL DETAILS ON THE GRANTS, ACTUALLY THE REVENUE. FOR ACTUAL AWARDS, IT COULD BE INCREASE IN REVENUE, DECREASE OR REMOVING THE GRANTS ALTOGETHER DUE TO LACK OF FUNDING OR THE GRANT ENDING.
SAVINGS OF. THE NEXT LINE THE ROLLOVER POS WE DO THIS EVERY YEAR. WORK WITH OUR PURCHASING MANAGER, IDENTIFY ANYTHING PROJECT OR EQUIPMENT RELATED THAT WE NEED TO ROLL THIS IS OBVIOUSLY NOT A COST.
INCREASE OUR ENDING FUND BALANCE, PROJECTS OR EQUIPMENT CAN BE RECEIVED IN THE 22 BUDGET.
>> ON THAT ONE PORTION I DID HAVE ONE ROLLOVER REQUEST.
CHECK IF POSSIBLE ON PRECINCT 4 COMMUNITY OUTREACH FUNDS WHAT
IS LEFT IN THAT ACCOUNT? >> WORKING ON THE PROPOSAL TO BRING THIS WEEK AND I DID NOT LET IT DONE.
>> THE COMMUNITY PROGRAM FUNDING IS WHEN WE ROLL THE PROJECTS EITHER EQUIPMENT OR CAPITAL.
SO THE ROLLOVER. SO ACTUALLY BE IN EXPENSE,
INCREASE YOUR BUDGET. >> CAN I ASK HOW MUCH IS IN
>> OKAY. I WOULD LIKE TO ROLL THAT IF
POSSIBLE AS AN EXPENSE. >> OKAY.
>> SOMETHING IN ADDITION TO WHAT YOU HAVE BUDGETED FOR 22 PLANNED? WE DON'T REALLY ROLLOVER WHAT YOU WOULD BE ASKING, ASKING FOR 5000 FOR 22.
>> RIGHT. ADDITIONAL EXPENSE TO THE BUDGET. FOR FY 22 THERE IS ALSO 2500 IN
THE BUDGET. >> I WOULD LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND DO THAT THEN I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE THAT ADJUSTMENT.
IT MISSED THE END OF THE FISCAL YEAR.
>> WHAT IS THE WHAT IS THE LINE
ITEM? >> YOU GAVE IT UP TO THE COUNTY JUDGE SEVERAL MONTHS AGO IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY.
>> THAT WAS LAST YEAR. >> 2000.
>> I WILL TAKE MY 2000 OFF. THANK YOU, SIR.
YOU CAN MAKE THAT ZERO. >> DO YOU STILL NEED THE 500
THOUGH? >> I WILL CHANGE MY REQUEST 2000 INSTEAD OF 2500. THANK YOU, APPRECIATE THAT.
>> ABSOLUTELY. >> SO I HAD A COUPLE OF CONFERENCE CALLS WITH ENTERPRISE WORKING THROUGH THE EQUITY. BUILDUP IN OUR LEASE PROGRAM OUR VEHICLE LEASE PROGRAM. SO HE WAS NOT ABLE TO FINALIZE THE NUMBERS I HAVE PREPARED A DRAFT OF WHAT I THINK IT MIGHT LOOK LIKE BASED ON THE PRIOR YEAR SCENARIO.
THE ISSUE DEPENDS ON WHEN WE TURN OVER THESE VEHICLES AT THAT TIME HOW MUCH THE READINGS HAVE CHANGED AND WHEN WE WILL
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ACTUALLY TAKE IN THE NEW VEHICLES.THIS IS DRAFT FORM BUT I KNOW THAT ALL OF THE CONSTABLES DEVELOPMENT SERVICES, THE SHERIFF INTERESTED IN GETTING NEW AND REPLACEMENT VEHICLES. SO WHAT I AM PROPOSING HERE IS A COURT SET ASIDE $225,000 FOR EQUIPMENT TO FUND THE PATROL UNITS AND SOME EQUIPMENT FOR THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE.
IDENTIFIED POTENTIALLY REPLACING SEVEN SHERIFF'S OFFICE WHITE FLEET VEHICLES. ONE FOR EACH CONSTABLE, THREE FOR THE DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DEPARTMENT.
ADDITIONALLY, ALL VEHICLES LISTED, AS SPREADSHEET THAT HAS ALL OF THE VEHICLES INCLUDED IN THE EQUITY ANALYSIS.
THOSE VEHICLES TURNED OVER SO THE CONSTABLE WILL BE RECEIVING, RECEIVING THOSE THREE REPLACEMENTS.
>> ONE QUESTION ON THESE. THE VEHICLE TYPE, F-150 POLICE ON EACH ONE OF THESE. INDIVIDUAL CONSTABLES OFFICE PUSES DIFFERENT VEHICLES IN THEIR FLEET.
MUCH OF AN ADJUSTMENT IN THERE? WILL THEY NEED TO FIND
DIFFERENCES IN THEIR BUDGET? >> POTENTIALLY BE SMALL DIFFERENCES I DID GO BACK AND LOOK AT ALL THE CONSTABLES REQUESTS. WITH THE EXCEPTION OF FOUR, POLICE PACKAGE. I SPOKE WITH OUR ENTERPRISE REPRESENTATIVE, WHAT THE CONSTABLE HAD REQUESTED.
I CHANGED HIS, THAT WAS THIS MORNING.
WITH OUR ENTERPRISE REPRESENTATIVE.
I HAVEN'T HAD A CHANCE TO TALK WITH THE CONSTABLE.
>> I WAS JUST WONDERING. >> IT WOULD BE MINIMAL THOUGH.
> PATROL VEHICLES, IMPORTANT TO HAVE CLEAR MARKINGS ON VEHICLES SO YOU KNOW WHO WAS WHAT, WHO THEY REPRESENT.
VERY TELLING WHEN WE GO TO A CONFERENCE OF SORTS, WE PULL UP CLOSE TO OUR REGION, A LOT OF FOLKS DROVE IN, THE MYRIAD OF OPTIONS AND BRANDING OF VEHICLES.
THAT IS WHAT I FEEL SOMETIMES HAPPENS IN OUR OWN COUNTY I AM ASKING MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS TO HELP SUPPORT BRANDING OF OUR PATROL VEHICLES. CONSISTENT NO MATTER WHERE THEY ARE AT, THEY ALL LOOK THE SAME. I DON'T HAVE THAT SAME, BELIEVE ME THE ALL LOOK GOOD BUT DIFFERENT.
PROPOSING UNIFORMITY AND BRANDING OF ALL OF OUR PATROL VEHICLES. MOVING FORWARD SOME UNIFORMITY.
SO THAT FOLKS IN THE COMMUNITY UNDERSTAND.
>> BASICALLY THE CONSTABLES OFFICE.
>> SPECIFICALLY. UNIFORMITY AND BRANDING, CHANGED BY THE NUMBER OF PRECINCTS.
>> I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT.
IF YOU GO TO KYLE, EVERYBODY KNOWS.
THEY'RE NOT LIME GREEN ANYMORE. I KNOW EACH COMMUNITY HAS RECOGNITION FOR WHAT THEIR CONSTABLES LOOK LIKE, I COULD CARE LESS.> GOOD FOR WHEN PEOPLE ARE TRAVELING, GOING THROUGH. WHATEVER.
JUST YOU KNOW WHEN YOU SEE A VEHICLE THAT IT IS LEGIT, IT IS
CREDENTIALED. >> CONSTABLE, HOW DO YOU THINK THE CONSTABLES WILL GO FOR THAT?
>> I THINK I CAN SPEAK FOR THEM.
>> ME TOO. >> WE DID ADDRESS THE COMMISSIONER WHEN HE WAS ON THE COURT DID HAVE A COMMITTEE OF CONSTABLES, WE DID LOOK AT UNIFORMITY FROM A VEHICLE STANDPOINT AS WELL AS OTHER THINGS.
FROM THE VEHICLE STANDPOINT SO MANY CHANGES IN LAW ENFORCEMENT VEHICLES THAT IT WAS REALLY NOT EVEN POSSIBLE TO HAVE UNIFORMITY. WE SEE THAT NOW, SOME VEHICLES IN FACT A TIME WHEN THE OFFICE WENT TO TACOS, THEY HAD THE DODGE CHARGER. THE TAHOE WHICH WAS CHEAPER
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ACTUALLY, WHEN THEY WERE ADOPTED A YEAR LATER THE TAHOE BECAME THE MOST EXPENSIVE LAW ENFORCEMENT VEHICLE.I GO TO THE EXPLORER, THEN THE NEW FORD INTERCEPTOR OR WHATEVER. FROM A MAINTENANCE STANDPOINT IT SOUNDED LIKE THE BEST IDEA PFOR HAVING SPARE PARTS AND BEING ABLE TO REPAIR VEHICLES IN THE END PUT YOURSELF IN A SITUATION OF PROBABLY SPENDING MORE MONEY IF YOU HAD UNIFORMITY ON A VEHICLE TYPE. ONE YEAR THE F-150 TRUCK USED TO BE THE LEAST EXPENSIVE I DO NOT KNOW IF IT'S STILL IS OR NOT. ALSO LOGOS AND LETTERING.
>> I WOULD DIFFER TO THE CONSTABLES ON WHAT THEY BELIEVE
IS BEST FOR THE OFFICE. >> I AM SORRY, COMMISSIONER.
TALKING ABOUT THE DECALS EXCLUSIVE.
>> YOU ASKED ME ABOUT WHAT THE CONSTABLES THOUGHT.
NUMBER ONE THEY DO NEED TO BE MARKED.
NOT ONE THAT IS ALL FANCY, GRAPHICS.
I HAVE SEEN THOSE. IN OUR CASE, ALL OF OUR VEHICLES ARE GRAPHIC IDENTICAL. NOT DIFFERENT SO MY CHANGE OF IT. DUE TO BODY STYLE.
IT IS ALL UNIFORM. A TIME WITH THE EXCEPTION OF OUR FRIEND. THAT SOMEBODY CALLED, THE SHERIFF'S CAR WAS OVER HERE PATROLLING.
DID NOT STOP. IT WASN'T A SHERIFF'S CAR IT WAS A CONSTABLE. SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
I THINK IF YOU CAN PICTURE EVERY CAR IN THE COUNTY, WHETHER IT IS A CONSTABLE OR THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE, I DO BELIEVE IT NEEDS TO BE CONSISTENT WITH THE GIVEN
OFFICE. >> I DON'T MEAN THE CONSTABLES TO MATCH THE SHERIFF'S EITHER. AT LEAST SIMILARITY IN BRANDING. WE GET NEW CARS, DECALS OF COURSE, VARIATIONS. JUST DECAL IN THE VEHICLES.
SPECIFIC REALM OF CONSTABLES, SOME UNIFORMITY.
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH. >> A GOOD POINT.
OFTENTIMES PEOPLE WILL SHOW UP AT THE COURTHOUSE TO PAY A FINE, A TRAFFIC FINE. THEY HAVE LOST THEIR PAPER, WHEN YOU ARE TRYING TO HELP THEM, THE GOVERNMENT CENTER OR THE CITY, FIRST QUESTION IS WHAT DID THE CAR LOOK LIKE? WHAT COLOR WAS THE CAR AND WENT DID IT DECALS LOOK LIKE?
THAT WAS THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE. >> I WANTED TO PUT IT ON THEIR.
WE CAN LEAN INTO IT OR NOT. >> ON THE LEASED VEHICLES, WHAT I AM PROPOSING TO DO IS LEAVE MOST OF THE EQUIPMENT MONEY IN TACT, LET ME FINALIZE THE EQUITY ANALYSIS.
WITH ENTERPRISE TO DETERMINE HOW MANY VEHICLES WE CAN TRULY GET. A CLEAN LIST OF ALL DEPARTMENTS RECEIVING NEW OR REPLACEMENT VEHICLES.
>> THAT IS SMART. >> SO JUST TO RECAP THE FIRST FEW ITEMS WE HAVE THE SAVINGS, SPECIALTY COURT POSITION SAVINGS, THE COMPUTER IT SAVINGS, GRANT BUDGET SAVINGS.
ROLLOVER PURCHASE ORDERS, VEHICLE WITH EQUIPMENT.
TO BE DETERMINED. ADDED THE INCREASE IN COMMISSIONER PROGRAM FUNDING. THE DECREASE IN COMMISSIONER THREES. ARE WE GOOD WITH THOSE ITEMS? OKAY. SO THE NEXT ITEM IS ITEM
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DISCUSSED ON AUGUST 24, OUR PROPOSED BUDGET HEARING.PLAN, INCLUDED THE IMPACT ONCE WE WERE DISCUSSING IT, HOWEVER DISCUSSION HALTED, DECIDED WE NEEDED TO FILL IN ALL BAILIFFS.
ADDED THE IMPACT OF MOVING ALL OF THE BAILIFFS IN A PLAN THAT IS SIMILAR TO A COLLECTIVE BARGAINING PROGRAM.
I HAVE INCLUDED WHAT THAT PLAN WOULD LOOK LIKE AS WELL AS THE
IMPACT FOR FISCAL YEAR 22. >> DID WE RECEIVE ANY FEEDBACK?
>> I DID SPEAK IN THE DISTRICT COURT.
DID NOT HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH PETERSON.
HIS OFFICERS ARE HIGHER THAN THE VACANT POSITIONS AT THE DISTRICT COURT HAS. SO THE DISTRICT COURTS OBVIOUSLY SUPPORTIVE OF THIS, THEY HAVE HAD ISSUES WITH FILLING THEIR POSITIONS. TYPICALLY THEY GET APPLICATIONS. IT MAKES IT HARDER TO MAKE AN ATTRACTIVE MOVE. THE IMPACT TO THE GENERAL FUND 28,000, TWO OF THOSE POSITIONS FUNDED OUT OF THE COURTHOUSE SECURITY FUND. ADDITIONAL 10,000, IN A PLAN, NOT BE PART OF COLLECTIVE BARGAINING.
SIMILAR TO HOW THE DEPUTY CONSTABLES FUNCTION.
WITH THE THREE PERCENT MOVEMENT.
>> NOT JUST FOR DISTRICT BUT FOR ALL.
>> FOR THE COUNTY COURT OF LAW, BAILIFFS AND THE DISTRICT COURT BAILIFFS ALSO THE YEARS OF EXPERIENCE WOULD BE RELATIVE
ONLY TO PAYEXPERIENCE. >> IS IT IN HERE?
>> YES. YOUR POST BAILIFFS PAY PLAN AS WELL AS THE ACTUAL STRUCTURE. THE PAY PLAN STRUCTURE.
WHAT I DID WAS TAKE THE COLLECTIVE BARGAINING STRUCTURE, SOMETHING THAT COMMISSIONER SHELL HAD MET ABOUT, CAME UP WITH THAT IDEA WITH BAILIFF EXPERIENCE.
I LINED IT UP SO YOU COULD SEE WHERE THOSE SALARIES WOULD FALL IN RELATION TO THE LAW ENFORCEMENT.
>> WHAT IS THE STARTING PAY FOR DISTRICT COURT BAILIFFS IN OUR
SYSTEM? >> CURRENTLY $50,910 GO UP TO
55 120. >> EXACTLY THE SAME AS A
>> I BELIEVE IT WAS STRUCTURED THAT WAY.
MORE INPUT. >> THAT IS WHAT PETERSON IS HIRING SOME OF HIS COME CLOSER TO THAT PAY SCALE.
THE BAILIFFS AND THE DEPUTY CONSTABLES HAD THE SAME SHIFT SCHEDULE. UNLIKE THE OTHER LAW
ENFORCEMENT. >> I WILL BE HONEST CONCERNED THAT WE HAVE A DEPUTY CONSTABLES ASSIGNED AS BAILIFFS OUTSIDE, I THINK IT IS A QUESTION THAT MR. KENNEDY PROBABLY NEEDS TO HAVE WITH THEM TO SEE HOW THAT IS STRUCTURED. I AM CONCERNED IF THEY ARE QUALIFIED AS DEPUTY CONSTABLES. TECHNICALLY BEING ASSIGNED AS
BAILIFFS. >> I DO NOT KNOW IF YOU KNOW
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THE ANSWER TO THAT PROBABLY SEE HOW THEY ARE OPERATING.ONE OF THE REASONS FOR THE PURITY.
>> CAN THEY BE PULLED FOR THEIR DUTIES?>> THEY ARE NOT IN AS DEPUTY CONSTABLES. THEY ARE CARVED OUT.
PRESUMPTION IS THAT THEY MAY NOT HAVE THE SAME QUALIFICATIONS AS DEPUTY CONSTABLE.
>> THAT IS THE QUESTION. I DO NOT KNOW, ASSUME THEY WERE BEING HIRED AS DEPUTY CONSTABLES I BELIEVE WE HAVE SOMEONE IN ONE TODAY. I THINK A QUESTION THAT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED. REGARDLESS OF THIS PROPOSED PAY
PLAN. >> WE NEED TO MAKE IT CLEAR
THEN. >> I THINK THE CONFUSION CAME IN WHEN WE RETITLED THEM HONESTLY.
THEY WERE BAILIFFS FOR YEARS, A COUPLE YEARS AGO THEY RETITLED.
BECAUSE PETERSON WAS HOLDING THEIR CERTIFICATIONS.
>> I WILL SAY THIS MY TWO CENTS I KNOW THAT WE HAVE DEPUTY CONSTABLES IN HERE RIGHT NOW SOME ARE COMING OFF THE STREET.
THEIR JOB IS EXACTLY WHAT WE ARE DESCRIBING BECAUSE THEY HAVE THE JOB AND DUTY OF PROTECTING A SITTING JUDGE RIGHT NOW. MY OPINION IS AS BAILIFFS, SHOULD BE PAID THE SAME AS DEPUTIES.
REMAIN INTERCHANGEABLE. PAY THEM A BETTER WAGE TO MATCH
THE WHOLE OFFICE. >> I DO NOT DISAGREE WITH THAT.
BELIEVE THEY HAVE TO HAVE THE SAME QUALIFICATIONS.
>> OF COURSE. PEACE OFFICERS, ETC.
>> THEY CANNOT BE PULLED TO GO TO CIVIL PROCESS.
THEY SHOULDN'T BE BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT IN THE COLLECTIVE BARGAINING UNIT. THAT COULD CREATE ISSUES.
>> ANOTHER WRENCH INTO IT. IF YOU ARE CONSIDERING THAT A DUTY OF A DEPUTY CONSTABLE, A BAILIFF OF THE COURT ALSO INTO THE ISSUE OF IF YOU ARE AVAILABLE IN CONSTABLES OFFICE.
I MEAN ALREADY A BAILIFF, INTO THE WEEDS IS SOMETHING THAT CANNOT BE ADDRESSED IN THIS CONVERSATION.
ME THINKING OUT LOUD. DEPUTY CONSTABLE COULD BE HIRED WITHIN A CONSTABLES OFFICE, ONLY BE A BAILIFF IN COURT.
THEY WILL BE A DEPUTY CONSTABLE.
THEY WOULD HAVE TO BE APPROVED BY THE COMMISSIONERS COURT JUST LIKE ANY DEPUTY CONSTABLE. AT THAT POINT.
HE OBVIOUSLY WOULD BE. >> IN THE STATUTE ONE OF THEM.
>> A COURT FINDING INDICATED CONSTABLES HAVE THE RIGHT TO BARGAIN EITHER WITH THE AGENT SELECTED BY THE UNIT OR WITH ITS OWN AGENT. THE WAY WE HAVE DONE IT HERE, OF COURSE WE WERE RIDING CONSTABLES INTO THE AGREEMENT EVEN BEFORE THAT COURT DECISION WAS MADE.
WE OPTED TO TREAT OUR DEPUTY CONSTABLES BETTER I SUPPOSE THEN OTHER COUNTIES WERE OPTING TO DO AT THE TIME TREATING THEM AS THEY WERE LAW ENFORCEMENT AS IF THEY WERE LAW ENFORCEMENT LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE. THAT WASN'T THE RULE AT THAT TIME BUT WE TREATED THEM THAT WAY.
DEPUTY CONSTABLES ACCORDING TO THIS COURT DECISION CANNOT BE BARGAINING. NOW, THE CONTRACT HAS ALSO ALWAYS AGREED THAT BAILIFFS ARE BAILIFFS, NOT ACTING IN THE SAME CAPACITY AS DEPUTY CONSTABLES.
WILL NOT BE TREATED THE SAME OF COURSE THE BARGAINING UNIT, AGENT ALL AGREED. I THINK THAT IS THE STATUS QUO FOR NOW. IF WE CHANGE IT A REOPENER TO THE CONTRACT, DO NOT USUALLY LIKE TO DO THAT UNLESS A REALLY GOOD REASON TO. EVERY FOUR YEARS EVERY TWO
YEARS FOR THE MARKET. >> DISCUSSION FOR A DIFFERENT TIME. IT HAS SOME IMPACT TO PAY PARITY. AGAIN, IF THE CONSTABLE CHOSE TO HIRE A FULL-TIME DEPUTY CONSTABLE TO BE A BAILIFF IN COURT, THEY WILL BE IN OUR COLLECTIVE BARGAINING.
WE WOULD NOT EXCLUDE THEM. IF HE SAID I AM HIRING THIS
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INDIVIDUAL, ONLY PRECINCT ONE HAS POSITIONS BUDGETED FOR BAILIFFS. IN HIS RANKS, HE SAYS I AM ASSIGNING THIS PERSON TO BE A BAILIFF, IN THE BARGAINING UNIT AT THE DEPUTY CONSTABLE IF HE HAD A POSITION OPEN DEPUTYCONSTABLE. >> AGAIN, IF YOU HAVE YOU KNOW, IF I AM A CERTIFIED PEACE OFFICER, NOT AUTOMATICALLY A MEMBER OF THE BARGAINING UNIT. AND THAT PERSON IS HIRED TO BE A BAILIFF, NOT USING THEM IN THE CAPACITY AS A DEPUTY CONSTABLE, ONE COULD MAKE AN ARGUMENT THAT THEY ARE NOT IN
THERE. >> HE HIRED THE PERSON, I AM ASSIGNING YOU TO BE A BAILIFF FULL-TIME, THAT PERSON WILL BE IN OUR UNIT, AS FAR AS THAT. ISSUE GOES, HAVING OTHER INDIVIDUALS HIRED WITHIN THE SAME QUALIFICATIONS, THAT IS WHERE THE QUESTION COMES UP IN MY MIND.
THE PURITY OF SOMEONE BEING ASSIGNED TO A DIFFERENT COURT THOUGH HIRED AS A BAILIFF THAT IS DIFFERENT IN OUR AGREEMENT.
GETTING CLOSER TO A FINE LINE DIFFERENT THAN THE WAY WE WERE HIRING BAILIFFS BEFORE, STILL IN THIS CASE TECHNICALLY APPOINTED BY THE JUDGE, THE JUDGE IS HIRING THEM AS A BAILIFF, REQUIRING THEM TO BE CERTIFIED POLICE OFFICER.
NOT YOU KNOW, THAT IS REQUIREMENT.
A CLEAR CUT RATE THEREBY LEFT HIRED BY THE DISTRICT JUDGES.
IN THE CASE OF A CONSTABLE HIRING SOMEONE, THAT LINE GETS
MORE BLURRY. >> THE INSURER PULLED THE COMMISSION FOR THE DISTRICT COURT BAILIFFS THE COURT JUDGES HIRE THOSE BAILIFFS. COUNSEL PETERSON HOLDING THE COMMISSION FOR THE COUNTY COURT OF LAW.
IN THE PAST THEY EITHER WERE NOT LICENSED PEACE OFFICERS, MAY HAVE HAD SOME THE SHERIFF HELD THE COMMISSION FOUR.
ALWAYS MAINTAINED IN THE BUDGET EVEN THOUGH THEY ARE CALLED BAILIFFS, IN COUNTY COURT OF LAW SERVING A FUNCTION.
THAT IS THE INTENT OF THE POSITION ONE IS ACTUALLY BUDGETED IN THE FUND. FUNDED BY THE FEES COLLECTED.
SO IT MAY BE RETAILING IT BACK TO JUST BAILIFFS.
STILL HOLDS THE COMMISSION WHICH BRINGS ANOTHER POINT, ON AUGUST 24. ALSO AUTHORIZED A POSITION FOR CONSTABLE PETERSON, A BAILIFF EFFECTIVE APRIL 1, DOESN'T HAVE ANY EQUIPMENT TIED TO IT BECAUSE IT IS A BAILIFF POSITION. THE RADIO, THE BEST, DOES NOT HAVE THE CAR, THE THINGS THE OTHER DEPUTY CONSTABLES WOULD HAVE. HISTORICALLY, COME BACK TO THE COURT BEEN ABLE TO PURCHASE SOME OF THESE THINGS.
SOMETHING THE COURT WANTS TO CONSIDER WE WOULD NEED TO ADDRESS FUNDING EQUIPMENT FOR THAT BAILIFF.
>> ONE OTHER QUESTION. GO AHEAD DEMAND.
>> ONE OF THE QUESTION AS WELL. IN THE DISTRICT COURTS, A TIME WHERE THEY HAD PROBLEM STAFFING BAILIFF POSITIONS ASKING THE SHERIFF'S DEPARMENT TO HELP STAFF DOES.
AT ONE POINT, HAVING TO STOP THOSE COURTS ON A DAILY BASIS, AT WHAT POINT DO THEY BECOME BAILIFFS?
>> THEY NEVER DO. >> SUBJECT TO THE COLLECTIVE BARGAINING. FOR THE DISTRICT COURT.
THE COURT WILL TELL YOU WE CANNOT FUNCTION WITHOUT THE SHERIFF PROVIDING THOSE INDIVIDUALS.
AT WHAT POINT SHOULD THOSE INDIVIDUALS NOT BE SUBJECT TO THE SAME COLLECTIVE BARGAINING THAT THE DEPUTIES HAVING TO BE
ASSIGNED. >> INITIALLY THESE BAILIFF POSITIONS WERE NOT NECESSARILY CERTIFIED PEACE OFFICERS.
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GROWN INTO THAT ROLE OR CAPACITY, HASN'T ALWAYS BEEN THE CASE. I THINK THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING THAT THE COURT WOULD NEED TO LOOK AT, CONSIDER HOW YOU WANTTHOSE BAILIFFS TO FUNCTION. >> I THINK A GOOD QUESTION THAT COMES OUT. HAVEN'T HAD A PROBLEM FILLING THE VACANCIES FOR SOME TIME. A CLEAR DIFFERENCE OF BEING EMPLOYED BY THE DISTRICT JUDGE WHICH IS THE WAY THEY ARE WORKING. DEPUTY FROM THE OFFICE GOES UP TO THE THIRD FLOOR, STILL WORKING FOR THE SHERIFF.
UNDER THE SHERIFF NOT JUST HIS COMMISSION BUT UNDER THE COMMAND STRUCTURE. THE PERSON DEFINITELY COLLECTIVE BARGAINING, THE OTHER ONE IS DEFINITELY NOT BASED UPON OUR AGREEMENT. BLURS THAT LINE A LITTLE BIT.
>> NOT PROPOSING ANY CHANGES. >> THE SAME CONTEXT OF THE PURITY OF THE DEPUTY CONSTABLE HOURLY RATE.
THAT WAS SORT OF THE JUMPING OFF POINT FOR ME.
JUST I SENT IT TO VICKI, SEE WHAT IT COSTS.
A BETTER WAY, WITHIN THE BUDGET, ALWAYS ADDRESS THAT.
THIS CASE, COULD SOLVE THE PROBLEM OR CAUSE MORE PROBLEMS.
>> SO YOU WILL GET THE SALARIES IN LINE SOMEWHAT WITH THE COLLECTIVE BARGAINING AS WELL. I DID SPEAK WITH STEVE, HE WAS SUPPORTIVE. IT ALSO GIVES CONSTABLE PETERSON SOME FLEXIBILITY. WITH HIS HIRING BAILIFFS AS WELL. MOVES THOSE SALARIES A BIT FOR HIS STAFF AS WELL. IF YOU WANT TO FUND THE PROGRESSION PLAN, I GUESS THE FUNCTIONALITY SOMETHING THAT MIGHT NEED MORE CONSIDERATION OR DISCUSSION.
>> YOU MENTIONED A VEHICLE, TALKING ABOUT A VEHICLE FOR THE BAILIFFS BECAUSE WE HAD THAT DISCUSSION.
>> WE DID NOT PROVIDE A VEHICLE OR EQUIPMENT.
>> IT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING WHEN WE HAD THAT DISCUSSION, THE BAILIFFS WERE TAKING VEHICLES HOME.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY ARE DOING NOW THOUGH IF THEY ARE ACTUALLY TAKING VEHICLES HOME OR NOT DO YOU KNOW? DO YOU ALL HAVE ANY IDEA I HATE TO PUT YOU ON THE SPOT.
IF THE BAILIFFS ARE TAKING VEHICLES?
>> IN THE SAME CONTEXT OF THAT. PART OF THE DISCUSSION THAT WE
NEED TO HAVE. >> REQUESTED FULL EQUIPMENT.
WHEN HE WAS HERE, REQUESTED THE BAILIFFS FULLY EQUIPPED.O HE WANTED THE VEHICLE, I WANTED TO POINT OUT THAT THE EQUIPMENT WAS NOT PART OF WHAT THE BOARD HAD PREVIOUSLY PROVED IT WAS JUST THE BAILIFF POSITION. ANY SECOND THOUGHTS OR CONSIDERATIONS, HAVE THAT DISCUSSION TODAY.
>> IT BLURS THE LINE EVEN GREATER.
>> EXACTLY. >> I DO NOT KNOW WHAT A VEHICLE WOULD BE USED FOR IN THE WORK CAPACITY.
SERVING PROCESS, OR WHAT NOT, WORKING TRAFFIC, FUNERALS, I UNDERSTAND ALL OF THAT. I HONESTLY CANNOT CONCEIVE OF HOW THAT WOULD WORK INTO THE DAILY DUTIES OF A BAILIFF.
>> I BELIEVE ÃIMAGINE A PLAN WHERE YOU HAVE COURTS RIGHT NOW BECAUSE OF COVID-19 ARE NOT OPERATING.
SUPERVISOR SAID WELL, A FULLY FUNCTIONAL LICENSED PEACE OFFICER WHO I HIRED WITH THE QUALIFICATIONS OF DEPUTY CONSTABLE POTENTIALLY. I WANT HIM TO GO SERVE PAPERS FOR ME BUT IF HE IS HOLDING A BAILIFF POSITION, NOT BE ABLE TO DO THAT. BECAUSE AGAIN THAT BLURS THE LINE OF ARE YOU A BAILIFF OR DEPUTY CONSTABLE WHICH IS A
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MEMBER OF THE COLLECTIVE BARGAINING TEAM.>> THE WORD I GOT FROM CONSTABLE PETERSON, EQUALLY QUALIFIED IN TERMS OF ACIDIFICATION.
NOT USED FOR SOME SERVICE FOR PROCESSING SERVICE.
SERVING PAPERS. IN A PINCH, I DO NOT KNOW.
>> I THINK THAT IS WHERE THE LINE IS.
>> THAT WOULD BE IMPORTANT TO MAINTAIN THE LINE.
>> IT COULD BE THAT IF THAT IS AN ASK OF A CONSTABLE.
THE OFFICIAL USE OF STAFF, THAT COULD BE A GOOD THING TO HAVE FLEXIBILITY. IF THAT IS WHAT EVERYBODY WANTED. I AM NOT SAYING THAT IS THE CASE.HAT WOULD BRING THE ISSUE TO A REAL DECISION POINT AT THAT TIME. DEPUTY CONSTABLE EMPLOYMENT BAILIFFS, WHAT THE RAMIFICATION IS MOVED INTO COLLECTIVE
BARGAINING. >> I EAT ÃCAN BE A DISCUSSION FOR ANOTHER TIME DO WE WANT TO ASSOCIATE WITH THE PAY WITH A BAILIFF PLAN.UST THE BAILIFF PLAN.
>> WE CAN COME BACK TO THAT. >> I AM FINE WITH THE PAY
I AM OKAY WITH THAT. >> THE NEXT ITEM VETERANS OFFICE. REQUESTED DURING FY 21, A PART-TIME TEMPORARY ASSISTANT. SOME SAVINGS DUE TO SOME CHANGES WITHIN HIS TRANSPORT DUTIES WITH THE VETERANS SO ABLE TO FUND THAT THIS YEAR. HOWEVER, THE EMAIL THAT CAME TO ME WAS SOMEHOW MISSED. I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT.
I DID HAVE IT HERE TO ADD THAT BACK IN FULL-TIME ADAMANT ONE.
PERMANENT POSITION. THIS WOULD COST $40,000 .
>> I AM FINE WITH THAT. >> SAME.
>> THE NEXT FOUR ITEMS PROJECTS THAT HAVE COME UP OVER THE LAST FEW WEEKS. COMMISSIONERS IN THE COUNTY, HAVE TALKED TO ME ABOUT. PROJECTS THAT WE CAN USE OUR RESERVES FUNDING FOR. CURRENTLY OVER 5 MILLION IN USE OF RESERVES. 48 PERCENT OR JUST UNDER SIX MONTHS. IF WE CONSIDER THESE PROJECTS WHICH WOULD BE ADDRESSING THE GOVERNMENT CENTER SECURITY SYSTEM WHICH WOULD COST APPROXIMATELY $1 MILLION TO HAVE NEW CAMERAS, THE NEW CARD READERS.
ALL THE ACCESS POINTS. IN PLACE.
THAT IS JUST A ROUGH ESTIMATE OBVIOUSLY TAMMY IS WORKING WITH HDR, INSTALLED THE EQUIPMENT. WE WILL HAVE TO GO THROUGH A PROCUREMENT AS WELL. THE OTHER THREE ITEMS ALL RELATED TO SOCIAL SERVICE AGENCIES.
>> AS THEY ARE LOOKING AT THE SECURITY FOR THAT SPACE, LIKE TO SEE IF WE CAN INCLUDE THE SECURITY FOR THIS SPACE.
ALREADY CONVEYED AN INTEREST WITH HAVING THAT DISCUSSION.
>> I HAVEN'T GOTTEN INTO DETAILS.
THE CARD READER SYSTEM IN CONSTANT PROBLEMS. WHAT ABOUT THE CAMERAS: CAMERA ISSUES.
>> THERE ARE CAMERA ISSUES. NOT ALL FUNCTIONAL.
THE ONES THAT ARE FUNCTIONAL ARE CLEAR.
>> AN ISSUE WITH THE CAMERA SYSTEM AS WELL AS THE CARD
READER SYSTEM. >> ACCESS, THROUGHOUT THE
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BUILDING. THE BADGE ACCESS.THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE IS GRACIOUSLY MANNING ALL OF THE ENTRY POINTS, THE STAFF HAVING TO GO AND OUT THEIR MAIN ENTRANCES. DOESN'T WORK FOR THE MAJORITY.
SOME OF IT DOES. ALL OF IT IS NOT FUNCTIONAL AT
THIS TIME.>> ALREADY HAD THIS CONVERSATION.
WITH THOSE IN THE OFFICE. HEADCOUNTS ETC. I THINK USEFUL PIECE OF TIME TO COOPERATE THIS BUILDING AS WELL.
>> OKAY. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT TO PUT ADDITIONAL ONE OR 200,000 ASIDE.
TO ADDRESS THE SECURITY AS WELL.
>> I HAVE NO IDEA. >> WE HAVE NOT BEEN INVOLVED IN
THIS. >> AT LEAST ONE ESTIMATE WELL
BELOW THAT. >> I WOULD SAY 1.1.
>> OKAY. >> I THINK THAT WOULD COVER.
>> SO WE HAD COMMISSIONER INGALSBE, JONES MIGHT WANT TO SPEAK ON THIS. I THINK THEY WERE HERE EARLIER PRESENTING. THEY HAVE A CAMPAIGN FOR BUILDING SITE FOR $200,000. VILLAGE LIBRARY.
ALSO IS WORKING ON THEIR EXPANSION COMMISSIONER SHELL CONTRIBUTE. WORKING ON I BELIEVE ¦
>> WHAT WAS CASAS FOR? >> TWO YEARS WITHOUT RAISING FUNDS. SO THEY MAKE BETWEEN 100, 150,000 IN FUNDRAISING FOR THEIR MAIN EVENT.
TO PAY FOR THE FACILITY. ALSO PLAN POTENTIALLY DRESSING THEIR PROGRAMMING THROUGH FUNDS.
AS WELL AS THE LIBRARY BROADBAND IMPROVEMENT ACCESS AT THE LIBRARY. AS YOU ALL KNOW, ACTUALLY ISSUING BONDS FOR THE LIBRARY. THEY CHOSE TO GO A DIFFERENT ROUTE. I DO BELIEVE THAT THE NEW FACILITY WILL PROVIDE ACCESS TO ALL SORTS OF DIFFERENT SERVICES FOR THE CITIZENS. CONTRIBTING TO THEIR CAPITAL PROJECT. POTENTIALLY BE A GOOD COUNTYWIDE FACILITY. FOR CASA JUST BECAUSE OF THEIR LACK OF ABILITY TO FUND RAISE TO PAY FOR THEIR EXISTING FACILITY THAT WE DID POTENTIAL FUND.
>> I WANT YOU TO KNOW I HAD DELETED SUPPORT IN THAT SPACE SPECIFICALLY BECAUSE IT WAS CONVEYED TO ME.
>> I THINK IT COULD BE HOW THEY STRUCTURE THEIR BUDGETING.
IF THEY HAVE A BUDGET, THAT THE REVENUE IS EXPECTED TO BE YOU KNOW $500,000, ONE OASSIGNED TO PAYING OFF THE DEBT OR ASSIGNED TO EMPLOYEES. I MEAN IT COULD BE WITH ANY OTHER COSTS FOR THE MOST PART. MY IDEA WAS THAT THEY ARE HAVING A HARD TIME TO KEEPING UP WITH THE LAST TWO STRAIGHT.
THEY WERE GOING TO HAVE THIS EARS, ONE WEEK BEFORE CANCELED IT. I DON'T WANT TO SEE THEM GET INTO A NEGATIVE POSITION. WE ARE GOING TO NEED THEM PROBABLY MORE THAN EVER WHEN THINGS GET GOING AGAIN.
THAT BACKLOG IS GOING TO IMPACT THEIR SERVICES.
>> DEFINITELY NOT TO PAY OFF DEBT EARLY OR ANYTHING LIKE
THAT. >> ARTICULATION IS SUPPORTED.
THANK YOU. >> POTENTIAL USE OF RESERVES.
INCREASE THAT USE OF RESERVES FROM POTENTIAL USE OF RESERVES.
INCREASE THAT USE OF RESERVES FROM 5.8, 7.5.
ABOUT 45 PERCENT OF RESERVES. OVER FIVE MONTHS.
>> BEFORE WE MOVE OFF, THE ONE THING I WOULD SAY WHENEVER WE
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HAD THAT PRESENTATION FROM THE LIBRARY GROUP, I KNOW WE HELPED KYLE IN THE PAST, OTHERS IN THE PAST.LIBRARY FOUNDATION GOING THROUGH A PROCESS RIGHT NOW THROUGH THE ESTABLISHMENT OF A CAPITAL CAMPAIGN WITHIN THE NEXT YEAR WHEN LIBRARY FACILITY.
AS WE GO FORWARD IN THIS, MORE THAN WILLING TO LOOK AT THESE, BE SUPPORTED IF POSSIBLE. I WILL BRING SOMETHING ELSE BACK FOR THAT LIBRARY FOUNDATION AS WELL SHOULD THEY
MOVE FORWARD. >> DO YOU KNOW HOW FAR ALONG
THEY ARE? >> AT LEAST THREE LOTS UNDER CONTRACT RIGHT NOW. THEN ALSO LOOKING FOR LOCATION WITH THE COUNTY AND THE CITY THROUGH THE PROJECT.
>> NEXT FISCAL YEAR? DO YOU THINK THEY WILL BE:
>> TO BEGIN THEIR CAPITAL CAMPAIGN.
ALSO THE OPTION THEY ARE LOOKING AT TO GO THROUGH SIMILAR TO WHAT WE DISCUSSED WITH THE FOUNDATION, SINCE THEY DO HAVE AN ENTITY, THROUGH THE AG'S OFFICE, APPROVAL TO LOOK AT US TRYING TO FINANCE THAT WITHIN PAYING BACK THE COUNTY THE FULL AMOUNT OVER TIME. MUCH RATHER DO THAT AND HAD THEM PAY THE BILL IN TOTAL BACK TO THE COUNTY.
FINANCE IT, AGAIN UNTIL WE SEE WHAT THEIR PROPOSAL IS NOT WILLING TO PUT ANYTHING FORTH. SO.
>> SO IN AGREEMENT FOR USE OF RESERVES.
>> THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE. THE POSITIONS.
LIKE TO START THOSE OCTOBER 1. FUNDED FOR APRIL 1 STARTED, A CORRECTION TO ONE OF THE POSITIONS THAT IS A SAVINGS.
ADDITIONALLY, REQUEST THEIR SPECTRUM WHICH IS FIBER, INTERNET OPTION FOR TELEVISION SERVICE TO GET ALL OF THE WEATHER AND EMERGENCY CHANNELS THROUGHOUT THE BUILDING.
IT WOULD BE FOR THE ENTIRE PUBLIC SAFETY BUILDING.
THE 9-1-1 CENTER, ALL OF THE AREA.
A TOTAL OF 45 GETTING THE BOXES, 13,000 ANNUALLY TO
AFFECT SERVICE. >> TO HAVE CABLE?
>> YES. >> IT ASKED TO DO, LOOKED AT THIS AGREEMENT. SOMEWHAT WORKED WITH THEM ON THIS, ADDITIONAL CABLING THAT ASKED TO BE AROUND.
THE AMOUNT THAT IT COSTS TO GET THOSE BOXES AT EACH ONE OF
THOSE TELEVISION SITES. >> A COST, ANNUAL COST.
>> IT IS. THE CABLING THEY THINK, THE ANNUAL COST. THAT IS A FIVE YEAR COST.
POTENTIALLY GO UP AFTER THAT. >> CAN WE, NOT KNOWING EXACTLY WHERE WE HAVE CHOSEN THE LOCATIONS TO BE, IDENTIFY SOME FUNDS RATHER BRING THAT BACK, WHAT WE ARE ACTUALLY TALKING ABOUT. HAVING SOMETHING TO SCAN.
NEWS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. THAT IS HARDWIRED AND NOT WI-FI
ACCESSIBLE. >> I DO NOT KNOW ALL THE DETAILS ABOUT IT. JUST ACTUAL CABLING TO THE
BUILDING BUT THEN THE BOXES. >> THE SERVICE BOX.
>> THREE BOXES BUILDING WIDE. WHAT IS BUDGETED, WHAT DOES IT COST. I WOULD WANT TO KNOW DETAILS BEFORE AUTHORIZING THAT EXPENSE.
>> HOW MUCH FUNDING DID YOU WANT TO PUT ASIDE FOR THAT?
>> SET ASIDE WHATEVER WE CAN. I WOULD WANTED TO COME BACK TO
THE COURT TO UNDERSTAND. >> MAY BE 5000.
>> IF WE COULD START WITH THAT, IF SOMETHING ELSE IS NEEDED WE WILL ADDRESS IT THROUGH SAVINGS LATER ON.
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>> OKAY. >> UNDERSTAND, NEEDING THE ACCESS TO THE NEWS AND HARDWIRE.
YOU CAN GET THAT ON YOUR PHONE OR PROJECTED TO YOUR T.V.
>> I THINK THEY LOOKED INTO SOME OTHER OPTIONS I KNOW THERE IS HULU, ROKU. DO NOT ALWAYS OFFER THE LOCAL CHANNELS. WHICH WAS WHAT THEY WERE
LOOKING FOR. >> ONCE YOU HAVE A BOX ACCESS ON YOUR PHONE. MAYBE NOT THE INTENT.
>> THE OPTIONS.>> 13. >> OKAY.
SO LAST YEAR THE AUSTIN CITY OF AUSTIN CANCELED THE CONTRACT OVER ONE YEAR AGO FOR THE FORENSIC ANALYST.
MR. KENNEDY, HAD WORKED WITH I BELIEVE RALPH WORKED WITH THE DPS TO GET ANOTHER CONTRACT IN PLACE.
WE DO HAVE THE CONTRACT, DID NOT GET PUT IN ANYONE'S BUDGET.
UNDERSTAND ALSO WORKING WITH THATTHEM TO BE COMING TO COURT
SOON. >> ACTIVELY WORKING ON IT NOW.
>> WHAT ABOUT THE WHOLE CORONARY IDEA.
OUR OWN CORONARY. >> THE POPULATION COUNT.
>> GETTING CLOSE. MORE EXPENSIVE IN THE SURROUNDING AREAS. SO A SAD CONVERSATION THAT WE
HAVE TO HAVE. >> THE AUTOPSIES ALSO.
>> COSTING US MORE? >> ARE E BILLING OUTSIDE COUNTIES THAT WERE DOING THE AUTOPSIES FOUR.
TALKED ABOUT THAT BEFORE TOO. >> ACTIVELY WORKING ON THAT NOW
AS WELL. >> MATERNITY LEAVE OVER? I DO WANT TO MAKE SURE THERE IS BUDGET, IF WE NEED TO WITH THE TRIGGER POPULATION, THE OFFICE. MAKE SURE WE DON'T MISS A
THE SHERIFF'S IN THE THE ANIMAL CONTROL TROL DIVISION, INSURANCE PROCEEDS THIS FISCAL EAR.
TO REPLACE IT WITH A LEASED VEHICLE AND SOME OF THE EQUIPMENT THEY WILL NEED. THE BOX WILL GO OVER THE MAIN PIECE. THEY WILL NEED ADDITIONAL
EQUIPMENT AS WELL. >> THE POPULATION COUNT FOR
MEDICAL EXAMINER 2 MILLION. >> WE ARE FAR AWAY.
>> THAT IS YOU KNOW THE REQUIREMENT NOW.
DOESN'T MEAN ¦ >> THANK YOU, SIR.
>> BE NICE TO GET SOME MONEY BACK FROM THOSE GUYS.
>> ADDITIONALLY THE SHERIFF DID SPEAK OR THE CHIEF REGARDING THE VISITATION AREA. ANOTHER PROJECT THEY WOULD LIKE TO GET MOVING ON PETE OBVIOUSLY PROCUREMENT.
THAT IS $400,000 ESTIMATE AT THIS POINT.
IT COULD BE THE USE OF RESERVES AS WELL.
>> BRING US EXACTLY. >> I THINK THE EXACT NECESSITY.
>> OUT OF THE ITEMS FOR THE SHERIFF, THE ONLY ITEM WE ARE CHANGING IS THE SPECTRUM IS THAT CORRECT? SO ALSO REQUEST. I BELIEVE ALL OF THE CONSTABLES AND THE FIRE MARSHAL ASKED FOR THE TICKET WRITER SET UP IN CONFIGURATION. ABOUT $2500 PER OFFICE.
ALLOW THEM TO USE THEIR IPHONES.
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DID NOT GIVE ANY ADDITIONAL TICKET WRITERS, THE COURT DID NOT AUTHORIZE ANY NEW TICKET WRITERS.>> WHAT DOES A TICKET WRITER AROUND?
>> I DO NOT RECALL A FEW THOUSAND.
>> SOME SAVINGS, YES. THEY ARE BEING USED.
>> YEAH. >> ARE THEY BEING USED?
>> NOT A LOT OF USAGE IN THE CURRENT TICKET WRITERS.
THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY THROUGH ALL THE DEPARTMENTS.
VERY FORGIVING OFFICERS. I THINK THE RIGHT, THEY GIVE WARNINGS. NOT TICKETS.
>> 15,000. SET UP AND CONFIGURATION FEE.
IT WAS APPROVED IN A COUPLE OF THE OFFICES, THOSE WERE TAKEN OUT. THAT IS WHY IT IS COMING BACK.
CONSIDER IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO ADD THAT TO EACH ONE OF THOSE
OFFICES. >> TELL ME HOW THEY ARE BEING DIVIDED. WHAT OFFICES FOR THE 15,000.
>> ALL CONSTABLES AND THE FIRE MARSHAL.
>> HOW MANY FOR EACH? >> JUST A ONE-TIME COST.
I DO NOT KNOW. >> $2500 JUST FOR ONE PHONE OR AS MANY PHONES AS YOU WILL NEED?
>> I CANNOT RECALL WHEN WE SPOKE ABOUT IT.
>> SOMEONE THAT CAN SPEAK ABOUT IT.
>> CONSTABLES OFFICE. I BELIEVE FOR EACH PARTICULAR PHONE. I COULD BE WRONG ON THAT.
CURRENTLY OUR TICKET WRITERS ¦ >> I DO NOT THINK SO A ONE-TIME
FEE FOR EACH OFFICE. >> CURRENTLY OUR TICKET WRITERS ARE OUT OF DATE.HAT IS WHY YOU ARE NOT SEEING THE FUNCTION ON THAT. HAVING TO RIGHT HAND TICKETS.
THE OTHER DAY THEY ARE HAND WRITTEN.
TICKET WRITERS JUST OLD. >> $2500 EACH OFFICE GETS THE OPPORTUNITY TO USE IPHONES AS TICKET WRITERS?
>> CORRECT. >> I COULD GET ADDITIONAL INFORMATION TO MAKE SURE IF YOU DO CHOOSE TO BUDGET THIS FUNDING THAT WE GET MAKE SURE WE GET EVERYTHING NEEDED TO GO
>> $2500 TIMES FIVE, 20,000. WE HAVE TO KEEP GOING.
>> I MEAN IT IS GREAT IF IT IS 25 PER OFFICE.
>> I SAY WE LEAVE IT IN THERE UNLESS WE FIND OUT.
THAT IT IS NOT WHAT WE THINK. >> I SPOKE WITH COMMISSIONER SHELL LAST WEEK I BELIEVE HE HAS INFORMATION REGARDING THE FIRE CODE AND FEES PERMIT. THAT COULD POTENTIALLY MOVE THE POSITION THAT WAS RECENTLY CREATED TO START, HAD THAT FUNDED THE FIRE CODE FUND AS WELL AS THE SECOND ASSISTANT DEPUTY MARSHAL. SO REMOVING THOSE TWO POSITIONS THAT ARE FUNDED NOW, IN THE BUDGET.
IF YOU GO FURTHER DOWN, TO THE FIRE CODE FUND, YOU WILL SEE THAT INCREASING THE REVENUE, BASICALLY DOUBLING THIS REVENUE. RIGHT NOW 20,000 BUDGETED.
DOUBLE THAT REVENUE BASED ON THE INFORMATION THAT THE COMMISSIONER HAS BEEN IN DISCUSSIONS WITH.
WE COULD MOVE THOSE TWO POSITIONS OVER, MAKE CHANGES TO THE SUPPLY BUDGET. HAD THAT FOUND SUPPORT THOSE
WE AGREED TO CREATE THE POSITION, FUND IT STARTING APRIL 1 I BELIEVE. I DID MEET WITH THE FIRE MARSHAL. THE ISSUES WE HEARD ABOUT.
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DISCUSSIONS TO BE HAD ON THAT. IT IS GENERATING AS AN APPLICANT AMOUNT MORE SINCE IT IS BEING ADMINISTERED.WITH THE NEW SYSTEM THEY ARE BRINGING IN THE REVENUE.
I CANNOT REMEMBER WHAT IT WAS I WANT TO SAY 25,000 OR SO EVERY SIX WEEKS. SO IT WILL FUND, IT IS TO BE USED FOR THE FUNDING OF THE ENFORCEMENT OF THE FIRE CODE.
WE CANNOT TAKE THOSE FIRE CODE REVENUE AND PAY SOMETHING ELSE WITH IT. IT IS REQUIRED TO BE SPENT ON THE ENFORCEMENT OF THE FIRE CODE.
WHATEVER OUR DISCUSSIONS ARE, AND HOW THE FIRE CODE IS MANAGEMENT I ASSUME HE HAS COMMUNICATIONS.
IF WE CONTINUED, IF WE FIND A WAY TO MINISTER THE FIRE CODE AND ROLL IT OUT PROPERLY, I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN COME WE HAVE THE STAFF TO DO IT THE RIGHT WAY.
THAT IS MY INTENT WITH THIS. IF WE ALL CHOOSE TO MOVE FORWARD WE HAVE STAFF IN PLACE TO DO IT.
HOW WE ARE GOING TO TAKE IT TO YOU KNOW, BETTER LEVEL OF CUSTOMER SERVICE. BUT I AM CONVINCED IF WE'RE GOING TO HAVE ONE THAT WORKS WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE THE
OTHER STAFF MEMBER ASSIGNED. >> IS AT 123?
THAT PART-TIME CORRECT. >> A PART-TIME THEN THE NEW
>> GOING TO BE INCREASED. ALSO ON THAT USE OF FUNDS,
>> RIGHT NOW ¦ >> SOMETHING WE SHOULD KEEP OUR EYES ON FOR THE HORIZON. ALSO BE TOO PROVIDE THE VEHICLES, WE DON'T USE THESE OTHER FUNDS, DEVELOPMENT
>> THE CONCERN I HAVE, I AM SUPPORTIVE OF THIS, THIS CHANGE IN AUTHORITY SIMPLY BECAUSE I HAVE AN ASSUMPTION, I MAY BE WRONG HERE, EXPECTATION LET ME REPHRASE THAT, THIS WOULD HELP FACILITATE BETTER CUSTOMER SERVICE.
I CAN TELL YOU THAT THERE IS NO ÃNO QUESTION, HOW DISAPPOINTED I HAVE BEEN WITH THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THE FIRE CODE. THE WAY IT HAS BEEN IMPLEMENTED COUNTYWIDE HAS BEEN PROBLEMATIC AT BEST.
IN TALKING TO DIRECTOR JONES, EMERGENCY SERVICES, WITH THE FIRE MARSHAL HIMSELF, HOPING THAT THE COMMITMENTS THEY HAVE MADE, REASON I PULLED THE OTHER AGENDA ITEM TODAY TO GIVE THEM THE OPPORTUNITY FOR THEM TO BRING BACK A PROPOSAL.
NO GUARANTEE I WILL SUPPORT THAT.
I WAS FULLY PREPARED TODAY TO TRY TO KILL THE WHOLE FIRE CODE. UNLESS MASSIVE CHANGES IN THE WAY IT IS IMPLEMENTED, GOING TO CONTINUE TO HAVE PROBLEMS WITH IT A NUMBER OF CONSTITUENTS THAT HAVE PROBLEMS WITH IT.
I CAN BE SUPPORTIVE OF THIS TODAY BUT WAIT TO SEE WHAT COMES FORWARD IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS.
>> HOW MUCH LONGER DO YOU HAVE? MAKE SURE WE GIVE YOU THE TIME
YOU NEED. >> ANOTHER 30 OR 30 MINUTES.
>> I DO NOT NEED A BREAK. >> OKAY.
>> ON EXECUTIVE SESSION TODAY STILL.
JUST FYI. >> MORE AGENDA ITEMS.
>> SYNCHRONIZE WITH YOUR TIMESLOT.
>> FINISHED THE PUBLIC HEARING. THEN HANDLE THE REST OF THE
THEN CUT FOR A RECESS AND EXECUTIVE SESSION.
>> I DID GET A TEXT. THAT IS A ONE-TIME FEE.
$2500. $800 LICENSE FEE PER PHONE.
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>> ONE-TIME LICENSE FEE PER PHONE.
THAT COULD BE, THAT ADDS UP. >> I CAN HAVE THAT CALCULATED FOR YOU ALL IF YOU WANT TO SEE. OKAY.
SO GOOD WITH EMERGENCY SERVICES AND MOVING THOSE POSITIONS TO THE FIRE CODE. INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY ALSO HAD SOME ADDITIONAL IT SUPPLIES THAT THEY NEEDED, NOT CURRENTLY IN THE BUDGET FOR THEM TO PURCHASE SUPPLIES.
GOING TO ADD, REQUESTING TO ADD 1000 TO THE SUPPLY LINE ITEM.
ADDITIONALLY SOME ADDITIONAL CONTINUING ADD, THAT NEEDED TO ATTEND. DID NOT QUITE ASK FOR ENOUGH IN THE BUDGET BECAUSE SOME CONFERENCES HAD COME UP THAT THEY WERE NOT AWARE OF SOME THAT REQUIRE CERTIFICATIONS.
ADDITIONAL 5000 IS ACTUALLY A REDUCED AMOUNT OF WHAT THEY FEEL LIKE THEY NEED TO GET THEIR STAFF TRAINED IN THE
UPCOMING YEAR. >> I AM FINE WITH THAT.
>> ASKING A LOT ORIGHT NOW. >> FOR THE COUNTY.
IN THE CURRENT BUDGET. IN DISCUSSIONS WITH THE COMPANY REGARDING A PROGRAM, THOSE FUNDS.
280,000, UNDER 150 ROLL LESS INTO NEXT YEAR FOR THAT PROJECT. THERE COULD BE MORE OF A COST, GOING TO BE LEASING THE PHONES AGAIN ASK REVOLVING DEBT.
>> THE CONSTABLE PRECINCT 3, HE WAS HERE EARLIER.
ASKING FOR THE 41 POSITION TO BE MOVED TO 10-1 FOR THE DEPUTY. ACTUALLY THAT POSITION IS ALREADY BUDGETED. MORE OF REDUCTION OF REVENUE.
SO FROM WHAT I GATHERED FROM THE CONVERSATION EARLIER, GOING TO MAINTAIN THE STAFF? CONSIDER ADDITIONAL STAFF IF HE GETS CONTRACTS WITH THE AGENCIES.
CORRECT. >> CONVERSATION, REACH OUT OR HAS REACHED OUT TO HELP SUPPORT THE USE OF THAT POSITION.
>> ADDRESS THAT. >> LEAVING THAT ONE IN PLACE.
>> SO IN REVIEWING HIS BUDGET THERE WAS A POSITION THAT SHOWED ACTIVE, PULLED OVER DURING BUDGETING FROM PAYROLL.
THAT SHOULD NOT COME ACTUALLY SAVINGS IN HIS BUDGET.
THE OFFICE OF SERVICES, IN DISCUSSIONS.
>> HE DID ASK FOR THAT. WHEN WE WERE TALKING SATURDAY
HE WAS NO LONGER GOING TO ADD. >> SOMETHING I WOULD LIKE US TO CONSIDER WITH IT. SEE IF WE COULD TRY OUT DIFFERENT OPTION TO SEE WHAT IT DOES ON THE STREET BEFORE WE INVEST. THAT COULD COST MORE IN THE LONG TERM SEE HOW IT PERFORMS COMPARED TO YOU KNOW ÃIF WE COULD GET HIM ONE, SIMILAR TO OTHER VEHICLES, COULD THEN TRY TO MEASURE AND SEE HOW THE IMPROVEMENT IS.
I DO NOT KNOW IF THIS IS THE CASE, MAY BE A BENEFIT.
TO KEEP THE COMPUTER EQUIPMENT COOL.
AND MAYBE OTHER EQUIPMENT. I THINK SOMETHING WE SHOULD CONSIDER DOING, SOMETHING WE COULD ASK JEFF TO DO SIT DOWN WITH THE CONSTABLES AND THE SHERIFF.
PUT TOGETHER A TRIAL RUN AND TEST THEM OUT.
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>> THAT MAKES SENSE. >> I THINK BUDGET SOME FUNDS.
ALLOW IT AND THE CONSTABLE AND THE SHERIFF TO SAY MAYBE THERE IS TWO DIFFERENT MODELS. ONE MODEL LESS EXPENSIVE.
MAYBE JUST HAVE FUNDS SET ASIDE FOR THEM TO DECIDE WHETHER IT
IS THREE OR SIX. >> REDUCING IT?
>> 10,000 IN OR SOMETHING. >> 10,000 IN THE IT BUDGET.
>> HAVE THE CONSTABLES WORK WITH EACH OTHER.
MAYBE THEY ROTATED THEM. DIFFERENT PRICE POINTS AND SEE
WHICH ONES PERFORM BEST. >> OFFICE OF SERVICES.
IN CONTACT WITH WATER TECHNOLOGY, CONTRACTOR FOR LOW-WATER CROSSINGS. HE FEELS LIKE HE NEEDS THE 16,000. REQUESTED THAT DURING HIS BUDGET WORKSHOP. STILL TRYING TO NEGOTIATE THAT PRICE THERE IS A $10,000 SMALL PART INCLUDED IN THAT CONTRACT.
OTHER THAN THAT THIS 6000 WOULD NEED TO BE BUDGETED AS PART OF THE ANNUAL MAINTENANCE. THE 10,000, HE MAY NEED IT LATER IF HE HAD TO MAKE REPAIRS.
>> I DEFINITELY WANT TO KEEP THAT EFFORT IN MOTION.
>> I THINK I MEAN, IT CAN BE EXPENSIVE TO MAINTAIN.
THAT HAS BEEN PROVEN IN THE EXISTENCE OF IT.
FROM THE WORK THAT I HAVE SEEN ON THE PLANNING GROUPS, WAY ABOVE, MANY TRYING TO GET THIS SYSTEM UNDERSTANDING THERE ARE ONGOING MAINTENANCE COSTS. DRASTIC IMPROVEMENT.
>> THE CHANGE WE MADE TWO WEEKS AGO, NOT GOING TO HAVE TO PULL THE FUNDING. FROM SERVICES, JUST BUILD INTO THOSE LOW WATER CROSSINGS. AS PART OF THE UTILITY
>> I AGREE. >> KEEP IT MOVING.
YES, MA'AM. >> THE COUNTY JUDGE RECEIVED A REQUEST THIS MORNING, DID NOT MAKE IT TO HR AS FAR AS I KNOW SO WHAT WAS INCLUDED IN THE REGRADES I PRINTED.
THE REQUEST IS TO REGRADE THE ADMIN THREE POSITION TO EXECUTIVE ASSISTANT GRADE 113. 110, 113.
THE COST OF THAT 2004FOUR PERCE OVER WHAT THE SALARY WOULD BE.
>> WHAT ARE SOME ONE 13S? LET'S SEE.
>> LET ME PULL IT UP REALLY QUICK.
>> FINANCIAL ANALYST ONE. PAYABLE MANAGER.
ASSISTANT SYSTEMS ADMINISTRATOR.
ASSISTANT VETERAN SERVICE OFFICER.
DEPUTY FIRE MARSHAL. DISTRICT COURT ADMINISTRATOR.
EMERGENCY PREPAREDNESS COMMITTEE.
ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH SPECIALIST TWO.
EQUIPMENT SUPERINTENDENT. INMATE PROGRAM DIRECTOR.
INTERNAL AUDITOR ONE. JUVENILE PROBATION.
OFFICER TWO. EMERGENCY COMMUNICATIONS OFFICER. PLANNER.
SPECIAL OPERATIONS COORDINATOR. VETERANS TREATMENT MANAGER.
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IT APPLICATION SUPPORT ANALYST. >> 110.
ALL GRADE 110. >> WHEN WE HAD THIS DISCUSSION, A FEW MONTHS AGO. THERE WAS AN INCREASE RIGHT AT
>> LET ME LOOK. I DO NOT RECALL.
>> UPDATE OF A JOB POSITION AND DESCRIPTION.
>> THERE WAS A RAISE. >> MY COMPUTER IS GOING
EXTREMELY SLOW TODAY. >> I THINK WE LOST CONNECTION
WITH OUR FINANCIAL SOFTWARE. >> AFTER THE REGRADE AND THE
RETITLED. >> WITH THAT REGRADE IT WILL COME. SO IT DOES COME WITH THAT.
>> SO RECEIVED THE TWO PERCENT. THAT ALL THE STAFF RECEIVED.
SHE DID RECEIVE A PAY INCREASE ON MARCH 30.
REEVALUATION OF JOB DUTIES. >> HOW MUCH WAS THAT?
NEXT QUESTION. >> SO PRIOR TO, LET'S SEE SALARY $39,503. IT WENT TO 43,466.
THEN TWO PERCENT, 44,435. >> WHAT IS AT GRADE 111?> 111 ASSISTANT LAB INITIATOR. ASSISTANT VETERAN SERVICE OFFICER. COLLECTION SPECIALIST.
CRIME ANALYST. EMERGENCY PLANNER.
ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH SPECIALIST ONE.
FOOD SERVICE MANAGER. JUSTICE COURT ADMINISTRATOR.
LEGAL SUPPORT SERVICES SPECIALIST.
OFFICE SYSTEMS COORDINATOR. PARALEGAL.TREASURY
SPECIALIST. >> THE GRADE 111, WILL NOT HAVE A SALARY IMPACT. ALREADY ABOUT THAT.
>> GRADE 111 AND UPDATE THE TITLE.
ARE YOU OKAY WITH THAT? NO SALARY IMPACT.
>> THIS EFFORT IS NO IMPACT ON SALARIES BUT RETITLED.
>> LET'S SEE. I DO NOT BELIEVE IT WOULD HAVE AN IMPACT ON ANY OF THE COMMISSIONERS, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF COMMISSIONER THREE.
YES. >> CAN YOU SAY THAT AGAIN?
>> ALL OF THE INITIATIVE ASSISTANCE ABOVE THE NEW MINIMUM OF 111 WITH THE EXCEPTION OF COMMISSIONER THREE. REGRADE ALL TWO 111 AND RETITLED THEM, IMPACT IN COMMISSION THREE.
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>> ALL THE OTHERS WOULD STAY THE SAME.
>> HOW MUCH WOULD THAT IMPACT BE?
>> IT WOULD BE LET'S SEE. BASED SALARY 39,063 FOR BASE
SALARY. >> AGAIN I KNOW WHAT MY
ASSISTANT DOES. >> LIKE YOU SAID I COULD BE GONE 30 DAYS, YOU WILL NOT KNOW I WAS GONE.
>> 111 SOUND GOOD TO YOU GUYS: >> I AM FINE WITH THAT.
>> DESCRIPTION FOR HERS. WHAT DO YOU HAVE EXT?
>> THE GRIEVANCE OF THOSE IMPACTS.
THE COMMISSIONER GABBY PETITO REQUESTED TO SEE WHAT IT WOULD COST, ADDITIONAL ONE PERCENT. WHICH IS OVER WITH ALL OF THE CHANGES, AT A SAVINGS. THE GENERAL FUND.
>> THAT KEEPS OUR FUND BALANCE AT 45 PERCENT.
>> FUND BALANCE 45 PERCENT. >> DO NOT WANT TO GO BELOW
>> PROPOSED DOING THAT TO GET TO THE 300,000.
>> ANOTHER 16,000. >> YES, ANOTHER 16.
>> SOUNDS LIKE A GOOD IDEA. >> THE COST OF THOSE IPHONES.
>> PEEL BACK SOME OF THAT IPHONE ENERGY.
>> SO YES. THE ADDITIONAL PERCENT.
>> NOW WE ARE SHORT 16,867. >> CAN I MAKE UP PROPOSAL ON THAT ONE PERCENT MERIT AND THAT 16,000 TO PAY FOR THE FUNDING NEEDED FOR THAT 16 OUT OF RESERVES.
>> CANNOT USE RESERVES FOR THAT.
>> ENOUGH TO CAPTURE THAT 16,867.
>> LET'S SEE. >> IT GIVES YOU ENOUGH RIGHT.
>> YEAH. I THINK FOR EASE OF DISTRIBUTING THE ALLOCATION OBVIOUSLY IT WILL BE EASIER TO
KEEP IT AT THE FIVE PERCENT. >> OKAY.
>> WAS GO TO THE ORIGINAL. >> SALARY SAVINGS.
>> CONTINGENCIES. >> WE COULD DROP CONTINGENCIES
BY 16,000. >> OUT OF CONTINGENCIES THEN YOU HAVE YOUR FULL PERCENT. TIME TO RERUN YOUR NUMBERS.
>> JUST QUICK GENERAL FUND ONLY.
>> GO INTO EXECUTIVE. >> SO NOT A FACT OF ZERO.
MOVING SOME FUNDS AROUND IN HIS BUDGET.
SOME OF THE REVENUE FUNDS, ALL LISTED HERE.
A MATTER OF SPECIAL PROJECTS, NOT ON THE TAX RATE.
EITHER BUDGETING THEIR FUND BALANCE OR BUDGETING THE GRANT FUNDS OR BUDGETING THE FUNDS OR ERE FUNDS.
DISCUSSION THIS AFTERNOON SPECIFICALLY REGARDING THE FUNDING. THE ANIMAL SHELTER FEASIBILITY
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STUDY 75,000. MENTAL HEALTH FACILITY PLANNING 250,000. OTHER THAN THAT, ALL OF THE OTHER ITEMS WERE BUDGETING EITHER ROLLOVER POS, GRANT BUDGETS, COMPUTER UPDATED BUDGETS.THE NEW PAYMENTS FOR THAT. >> OKAY.
>> SO ANY CHANGES. >> IF IT IS OKAY, THE ANIMAL SHELTER PLANNING I AM SUPPORTIVE OF.
I DON'T HAVE TWO IDENTIFY IT RIGHT NOW.
WE DO HAVE FUNDS BUDGETED FOR ANIMAL SHELTER ADDITIONAL EXPENSES WE COULD POTENTIALLY TAP INTO THAT WE DID NOT USE
LAST TIME. >> WE HAVE 150,000.
>> I DO NOT KNOW THE ARPA USE FOR THAT.
IF WE COULD HAVE THAT DISCUSSION DEPENDENT ABOUT THE
BUDGET. >> TODAY BUDGET ALL, 22 MILLION IN. I'LL GET BUDGETED.
FOR USE OF IT. >> WE CAN ALLOCATE THEM BUT THEY WILL NOT AFFECT THE GET DGET I WOULD LIKE TO GET ET CLARIFICATION. BECAUSE WE ALL SAID IN THOSE CLASSES TWO OR THREE WEEKS AGO, ANYTHING NEW CANNOT BE FUNDED THROUGH THE ARPA FUNDS. SO IF IT IS DIFFERENT IT IS
GOOD TO KNOW. >> WE NEED TO GET THAT
GOOD TO SUPPORT THAT IDEA. CLOSE ITEM NUMBER 52.
>> BEFORE WE DO THAT ON THE ONE PERCENT A MOTION TO CLARIFY THAT ADDITIONAL ONE PERCENT WOULD BE MERIT?
>> FOR A TOTAL OF FIVE. >> YOU CAN.
>> WHEN WE COME BACK TO VOTE ON THE BUDGET, GOING TO BE ON ALL
THE CHANGES COLLECTIVELY. >> I WOULD MAKE THAT A MOTION TO CLARIFY THE ADDITIONAL ONE PERCENT THAT WE ADDED WOULD BE
DIRECTLY USED ON MERIT. >> FIVE PERCENT TO BE CLEAR FOR THE PUBLIC. A MOTION AND THE SECOND FIVE PERCENT. PLEASE CALL THE ROLE.
>> COMMISSIONER SHELL. >> YES.
>> YES. >> GOING TO ALLOW THE OFFICE TO
[EXECUTIVE SESSIONS]
RUN REPORTS ON THESE NEW EDITS, AT THE SAME TIME GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION. SO PLEASE OPEN AGENDA ITEM 58.>> 58 EXECUTIVE SESSION. OF THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE.
CONSULTATION WITH COUNSEL, DELIBERATION REGARDING ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT NEGOTIATIONS WITH PROJECT MAGIC COMMAND, PROJECT PHOENIX. DISCUSSION AND OR ACTION MAY
FOLLOW IN OPEN COURT. >> SO, INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION.
IF YOU ARE NOT TIED TO 58 POLICE CLEAR THE
WE ARE BACK FROM EXECUTIVE SESSION.
I THINK COMMISSIONER JONES HAS A COUPLE OF EMOTIONS.
>> A MOTION TO AUTHORIZE THE COUNTY JUDGE TO EXECUTE THE FIRST AMENDMENT TO THE AGREEMENT BETWEEN TECHNOLOGY, HAYS COUNTY PRESENTED IN EXECUTIVE SESSION.
>> SECOND. >> WILL YOU PLEASE CALL THE
>> YES. >> COMMISSIONER SHELL.
>> YES. >> A MOTION TO AUTHORIZE THE COUNTY JUDGE TO AUTHORIZE ECONOMIC INCENTIVE AGREEMENT BETWEEN HAYS COUNTY PRESENTED IN EXECUTIVE SESSION.
>> SECOND. >> COMMISSIONER SHELL.
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>> YES. >> WE HAVE COMPLETED NUMBER 53.
[54. Discussion and possible action to set the FY 2022 salaries and allowances for Hays County Elected Officials.]
LET'S GO ON TO 54. >> OPEN 54.
54 DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO SET THE 22 SALARIES AND ALLOWANCES HAYS COUNTY OFFICIALS.
>> PURSUANT TO THE AGREEMENTS COMMITTEE WE HAD A COUPLE OF CHANGES LIKE TO MOVE TO SET SALARIES AND ALLOWANCES FOR THE OFFICIALS AS PRESENTED WITH A 22 BUDGET.
>> SECOND. >> DID YOU SIGN UP? WHY AM I NOT SURPRISED. I HAVE ENOUGH PAPER ON MY DESK
TODAY THAT I DID NOT SEE IT. >> OKAY.
PLEASE START A THREE MINUTE TIMER.
>> THANK YOU JUDGE. LIKE TO COMMEND THE COURT FOR MOVING IT FROM THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE, PROPOSE YOU REMOVE THE DOUGHNUTS AS WELL. LET ME GET IN AN EFFORT TO BE BROAD-MINDED, NARROW MY FOCUS ON TO THE SUBJECT AT HAND TO MEET THE SALARIES LOOK LIKE BLOATED TOAD, LYING IN THE SUN FOR A LONG TIME IF WE HAD A PROBLEM OF FINDING PEOPLE TO RUN FOR OFFICE I WOULD CONSIDER PAY RAISES.
FOR THE JOB WHICH HAS BEEN DONE AND THE SIZE OF THE DEBT WHICH YOU HAVE BEEN INSTRUMENTAL IN CREATING, I BELIEVE THAT YOU AS JUDGE AND COMMISSIONERS SHOULD TAKE A PAY CUT.
IT IS EASY TO FIND PEOPLE WHO WANT TO MAKE 80,000+ PER YEAR FOR MAKING POOR FINANCIAL DECISIONS.
IF ANYONE IN COUNTY GOVERNMENT IS NOT HAPPY WITH WHAT THEY MAKING I WILL TELL THEM WHAT MY FORMER EMPLOYER TOLD US, NOT MANDATORY THAT YOU WORK HERE. THIS IS THE WAY IT WORKS IN THE REAL WORLD. ONLY THE FORTUNATE FEW HAVE A BUBBLE OF PROTECTION LIKE SOME COUNTY EMPLOYEES.
IN THIS COVID-19 A YEAR MANY PEOPLE HAVE LOST THEIR EMPLOYMENTS I HAVE HAD MY INCOME REDUCED TO NEAR ZERO.
ON ACCOUNT OF THE COLLAPSE AND INTEREST RATES, DIFFICULT FOR ME TO HAVE MUCH SYMPATHY FOR ELECTED OFFICIALS.
WHO KNEW WHAT THE PAY WAS WHEN I RAN FOR OFFICE.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> THANK YOU, SIR.
>> A MOTION AND A SECOND ANYTHING ELSE YOU WANTED TO
CONTRIBUTE. >> ACROSS-THE-BOARD THE RECOMMENDED BUDGET THE ONLY ADJUSTMENT MADE TO TO SALARY GRIEVANCES FOR THE CONSTABLES AND THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE.
THAT ACROSS-THE-BOARD NO OTHER INCREASES FOR ANY COUNTY OFFICIAL, AS A MATTER OF FACT YOU AND I THE ONLY ONES THAT DID NOT GET LONGEVITY. ACROSS-THE-BOARD, A GOOD JOB IN
MANAGING THOSE. >> THANK YOU COMMISSIONER.
NO OTHER COMMENTS PLEASE CALL THE ROLE.
>> COMMISSIONER INGALSBE. >> YES.
[55. Discussion and possible action to adopt the FY 2022 Hays County budget after making any final changes as a result of the public hearing.]
PLEASE OPEN AGENDA ITEM 55. >> 55 DISCUSSION AND ACTION TO ADOPT THE FY 2022 HAYS COUNTY BUDGET AFTER MAKING ANY FINAL CHANGES AS A RESULT OF THE PUBLIC HEARINGS.
>> SECOND. >> A MOTION AND A SECOND ANY
COMMENTS? >> THE MOTION TO MOVE TO ADOPT THE FISCAL YEAR 22 HAYS COUNTY BUDGET TO INCLUDE JUST AS
PRESENTED. >> PERFECT PLEASE CALL THE
[56. Discussion and possible action to ratify the property tax increase reflected in the FY 2022 Hays County budget.]
>> YES. >> COMMISSIONER JONES.
DISCUSSION OF ACTION TO RATIFY THE PROPERTY TAX INCREASE REFLECTED IN THE FY 2022 HAYS COUNTY BUDGET.
>> A MOTION TO RATIFY THE PROPERTY TAX INCREASE.
HAYS COUNTY BUDGET. RAISE MORE REVENUE FROM PROPERTY TAXES. $606,905 PROPERTY TAX REVENUE
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RAISED FROM NEW PROPERTY ADDED THIS YEAR, 4 MILLION.>> MOTION AND A SECOND. SIGNED UP TO SPEAK.
PROPERTY TAXES YOUR AGENDA ITEM, SIR.
>> THANKS. I DO APPRECIATE YOU LOWERING THE TAX RATE HOWEVER, I HAVE A LITTLE PIECE OF PROPERTY NORTHWEST HILLS, 6.5 ACRES ABOUT IT AND MADE PAYMENTS ON IT DURING THE MIDDLE 70S. THIS PAST YEAR 50,000 FOR THAT 6.5 ACRES THIS YEAR 131,000. IN EVALUATION.I AM GOING TO BE PAYING A LOT MORE THAN MY SHAREOF WHAT YOU ARE SAYING YOU KNOW. JUST GOING UP A LITTLE BIT, WHAT NOT. AT IS NOT MY SITUATION.
ALSO ON MY HOUSE THEY WENT UP ON THE VALUATION OF THE HOUSE I THINK IT WAS 208,000, THEY WENT TO 218,000.
I WILL BE PAYING MORE ON THAT. YOU KNOW THE HOUSE IS 50 YEARS OLD. NO MATTER IF YOU READ THE PROPERTY TAX CODE RIGHT TO THEIR FACES.
IT DOESN'T MATTER. THAT IS ONE REASON I FIGHT SO HARD ABOUT THESE THINGS. TRYING TO SAVE MONEY LIKE I SAID THIS BUDGET FROM WHAT I HAVE SEEN, I KNOW YOU HAVE TRIED. BUT IT LOOKS LIKE BLOATED FROG.
JUST YOU KNOW I AM SORRY. I CANNOT BELIEVE SOME OF THE THINGS I AM HEARING I DID NOT BELIEVE YOU KNOW THE CONSTABLES GOT THE RAISE. NOT SAYING IN THE PERFECT WORLD THEY DO NOT DESERVE IT. ANYWAY, THAT IS MY BELIEF.
>> YOU ARE WONDERING FROM THE AGENDA ITEM AGAIN.
THE PROPERTY TAX INCREASE I AM SORRY, YOU SHOULD HAVE DECREASED IT. YOU DID NOT YOU FAILED AT YOUR JOB. BUT THANK YOU VERY MUCH.> ONE COMMENT. COMPLEMENT OUR AUDITOR'S OFFICE ONCE AGAIN AND WORKING WITH US TO FIND A RATE THAT WOULD ACTUALLY ADDRESS THE PRIORITIES OF THE COUNTY AND GET US TO SOMEWHERE WHERE WE NEED TO BE. I WOULD VENTURE TO GUESS THERE IS NOT ONE THAT HAS A TAX RATE LOWEST SINCE 90.
SUBSTANTIALLY DROPPED OUR TAX RATE OVER THE LAST 30 YEARS PRETTY TELLING WE ARE POSSIBLY THE ONLY ENTITY THAT HAS DONE THAT. THE LAST TIME WE HAD A TAX RATE THIS LOW, MORE THAN THIS AS FAR BACK AS 1990.
THAT IS PRETTY SUBSTANTIAL. >> THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER.
I FEEL REALLY GOOD OVERALL ON THE THINGS WE HAVE DONE HERE AS A COURT. I REALLY SUBMIT ALINA BUDGET, YOU AS A COURT MEMBER, FOUND WAYS TO WORK WITHIN THAT SPACE.
COME UP WITH SOMETHING AS YOU HIGHLIGHT.
MANY COUNTIES, IST'S, TAKEN COVID-19 AS AN OPPORTUNITY TO RAISE TAXES. TO SAY IT IS BECAUSE WE ARE SUFFERING, BECAUSE WE HAVE DISCOVERED THESE SHORTFALLS WILL HAVE TO GO UP ON THESE FEES BUT WE HAVE YET AGAIN, CONSERVATIVE COURT, FOUND A WAY TO BRING IT DOWN TO HELP OUR COMMUNITY. I KNOW THAT IT IS A FACT, ALMOST 33 YEARS WE HAVE THE LOWEST RATE.
WE ARE DOING OUR PART WE CANNOT PARALYZE OUR GOVERNMENT WE CAN NOT SAY IT IS TOO EXPENSIVE. THAT IS NOT REALISTIC, NOT REAL.
TRULY A WASTE OF TIME TO THINK THAT WAY WE DON'T HAVE THE OPTION. SO GRATEFUL YOU HIGHLIGHTED
THAT REALITY. >> ALSO SAY THE VIEW OF THIS COURT, GROWTH PACE FOR GROWTH. INDICATION THAT NEW GROWTH IS PAIN FOR AN EXPANSION WE HAVE IN THE COUNTY.
>> WE ONLY INCREASED THE BUDGET FROM LAST YEAR FROM 600,000.
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PROPERTIES THAT WERE NOT ON IT LAST YEAR.>> CONTINUE TO DEFEND WHAT WE ARE DOING HERE AND NOW.
NEW GROWTH DEVELOPMENT. DOING THE VERY THINGS YOU ARE
[57. Discussion and possible action to approve an order adopting the tax rate for FY 2022 and levy the taxes.]
DESCRIBING. I AM GRATEFUL.PLEASE CALL THE ROLE. >> COMMISSIONER SHELL.
>> YES.> COMMISSIONER INGALSBE.
DISCUSSION OF ACTION TO PROVE AN ORDER, ADOPTING THE TAX RATE
FOR FY 2022, LEVIED THE TAXES. >> I WILL MOVE THE FISCAL YEAR PROPERTY TAX RATE BE SET, .3867 CENTS.
ANNUAL MAINTENANCE AND OPERATIONS.
.1246 CENTS GENERAL DEBT, 0.2 ROAD AND BRIDGE MAINTENANCE AND
>> A MOTION AND A SECOND. >> LINED UP TO SPEAK.
ABOUT THE TAX RATE. >> THANK YOU JUDGE.
THIS IS MY FINAL PLEA TO GET THROUGH TO YOU ALL.
LISTEN TO YOU ALL, CONVERSATION PIT I APPRECIATE IT BUT APPARENTLY YOU DID NOT LISTEN ANYWAY.
THAT BEING SAID, I BELIEVE WE NEED TO DROP THE RATE A LOT LOWER THAN THAT AS I JUST EXPLAINED MY VALUATIONS WENT THROUGH THE ROOF AND NOT ONLY THAT IS WHY I WANT TO DROP THE RATE FURTHER. NOW, HERE IS SOME SUGGESTIONS.
IF WE WERE NOT PAYING 20 MILLION A YEAR TO THE BANKERS ON THE MONEY WE HAVE BORROWED, ALL THAT MONEY FOR US.
ANOTHER THING, WE SHOULD NOT BE GIVING ALL THESE TAX ABATEMENTS BECAUSE THAT PUTS THE BURDEN ON THE HOMEOWNER.NOW, IF YOU DO NOT GET THAT I AM SORRY. IF YOU THINK I AM GOING ON THE WRONG TRACK I AM SORRY ABOUT THAT.
WE NEED TO DROP THE TAX RATE EVEN FURTHER BECAUSE YOU ARE MAKING PEOPLE LOSE THEIR HOMES. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
>> PLEASE CALL THE ROLE.> COMMISSIONER JONES.
>> YES. >> COMMISSIONER SHELL.
>> YES. >> LET ME SCAN THE PAGES WITH ALL OF THIS. UNLESS WE HAVE A DIRECTION THAT YOU WOULD LIKE. WE ARE GOOD.
>> ON THIS ONE I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THIS WAS INCLUDED IN THE
RECORD AS YOU REQUESTED. >> OKAY, GOOD.
>> MOVED TO THE REST OF THE AGENDA.
OKAY. PLEASE MOVE OPEN 18 THROUGH 20.
>> I THINK WE DID THOSE. >> 39.
>> WE SURE DID. I HAVE A SCRATCH ON IT.
[39. Discussion and possible action to approve Joint Election Agreements for entities contracting with Hays County Elections for the November 2, 2021 General Election.]
>> PLEASE OPEN 39. >> DISCUSSION OF ACTION TO PROVE JOINT ELECTION AGREEMENTS FOR ENTITIES CONTRACTING WITH HAYS COUNTY ELECTIONS FOR THE NOVEMBER 2, 2021 GENERAL
>> A MOTION AND A SECOND. >> JUST FOR US TO RUN THE
[40. Discussion and possible action to add and continue Judges Professional Liability Insurance Policies with the Texas Lawyers Insurance Exchange (TLIE) for the County Court at Law Judges effective 8/1/2021 for Judge O'Brien and 10/1/21 for Judges Johnson and Updegrove.]
ELECTION. IN THE SCHOOL DISTRICT.>> COMMISSIONER INGALSBE. >> YES.
>> COMMISSIONER SMITH. >> YES.
>> 40. CONTINUE JUDGES PROFESSIONAL LIABILITY INSURANCE POLICIES, TEXAS LAWYERS INSURANCE EXCHANGE, EFFECTIVE AUGUST 1, 2021 FOR JUDGE O'BRIEN AND 10,
[41. Discussion and possible action to approve the selection of HDR Architecture, Inc. to deliver schematic designs for the upgrades needed to the entire existing electronic security systems including cameras, card readers, and intercoms for the Hays County Government Center, and authorize staff and counsel to negotiate a contract.]
>> COMMISSIONER SMITH. >> YES.
>> COMMISSIONER INGALSBE. >> YES.
>> COMMISSIONER SHELL. >> YES.
>> PLEASE OPEN 41. >> DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO PROVE THE SELECTION OF ARCHITECTURE INCORPORATED DELIVER SCHEMATIC DESIGNS WITH UPGRADES NEEDED TO THE ELECTRONIC SECURITY SYSTEMS INCLUDING CAMERAS, CARD READERS, INTERCOMS FOR THE GOVERNMENT CENTER.
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AUTHORIZED STAFF AND COUNSEL TO NEGOTIATE A CONTRACT.>> SO MOVED. >> INCLUDE THE HISTORIC
>> INCLUDED IN MY MOTION. >> OKAY.
ARE WE CLEAR THAT IS IN THE MOTION?
>> COMMISSIONER SHELL. >> YES.
[43. Discussion and possible action to adopt the Hays County FY 2022 Holiday Calendar.]
43. >> POSSIBLE ACTION TO ADOPT THE
2022 HOLIDAY CALENDAR. >> SO MOVED.
>> A MOTION AND A SECOND. WE ARE GOOD.
PLEASE CALL THE ROLE. >> THANK YOU INGALSBE FOR DOING THAT. THE ADDITION OF A NEW HOLIDAY THAT COMMISSIONER INGALSBE DID INCLUDE, IMPROVED AS A FEDERAL HOLIDAY JUNE 19. FIRST APPEARANCE AS A HOLIDAY
ON THE COUNTY CALENDAR. >> GOOD DEAL.> PLEASE CALL
THE ROLE. >> COMMISSIONER JONES.
>> YES. >> COMMISSIONER SMITH.
>> 44. >> DISCUSSION OF ACTION TO IMPROVE INSTRUCTIONAL POLICY FOR THE COUNTY TREASURER TO
IMPLEMENT FUTURE PAY INCREASES. >> SO MOVED.
>> A MOTION AND A SECOND. IF WE NEED MORE CLARIFICATION.
ARE WE GOOD? DO WE NEED TO HAVE ANYTHING
WORDED SPECIFICALLY? >> I AM OPEN TO QUESTIONS.
>> THANK YOU. >> A FORMAL MOTION?
>> I AM MORE THAN HAPPY TO. >> PLEASE CALL THE ROLE.
>> COMMISSIONER JONES. >> COMMISSIONER SMITH.
[46. Discussion and possible action to approve the naming of a private driveway in Precinct 3, Dark Sky Path.]
>> POSSIBLE ACTION TO IMPROVE THE NAMING OF A PRIVATE DRIVEWAY. DARK SKY PATH.
>> SO MOVED. >> PLEASE CALL THE ROLE.
>> COMMISSIONER SMITH. >> YES.
[48. Discussion and possible action to authorize Development Services Department to administratively grant authorizations for commercial on-site sewage facility permits.]
>> COMMISSIONER INGALSBE. >> YES.
>> PULLED 47. 48.> DISCUSSION AND ACTION TO AUTHORIZE DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DEPARTMENT TO MINISTER GRANT AUTHORIZATIONS FOR COMMERCIAL ON-SITE SEWAGE
FACILITY PERMITS.> SO MOVED. >> SECOND.
>> THIS IS, AS YOU ALL KNOW WHEN WE COME INTO COURT EVERY WEEK, IN THE PAST AS WE GO TO THESE SCHEDULES, ALL INDIVIDUAL ON-SITE FACILITIES MET ALL OF OUR REQUIREMENTS.
MANDATED WE HAVE TO APPROVE THEM, THEY HAVE COME TO COURT ANYWAY. THE LAST DECADE I CANNOT FIND A SINGLE ONE NOT APPROVED BY THE COURT.
MUCH LIKE ON OUR PLOTTING PROCESS, ON THE FRONT END OF AN APPLICATION, TO PUT ON THEIR YES, NOTIFIED THE COMMISSIONER.
SO THEREFORE STILL GET NOTIFICATION.
THIS WAY WE GET IT ON THE FRONT END.
STILL HAVE TO GO THROUGH ALL THE SAME PROCESSES THAT THEY CURRENTLY DO. ONLY ONES THAT WOULD HAVE TO COME BACK TO COURT THOSE THAT REQUESTED VARIANCE OR SOME OTHER OUTSTANDING ISSUES THAT STAFF WOULD RECOMMEND.
>> ANYTHING TO HELP TO PROVIDE THE CUSTOMER SERVICE THAT ANNO DEPARTMENT HAS PROVIDED. TO BE USER-FRIENDLY.
TO SAY HOW CAN I ELP. >> TO BE MORE EFFICIENT.
WITH THE NEW COURT SCHEDULE. >> NOT INCLUDE ANY VARIANCES IF THERE IS AN REQUEST FOR ANYTHING NOT IN LINE WITH OUR
>> REQUIRED TO APPROVE THESE THAT MEET OUR RULES.
>> SO WELL SAID.>> I KNOW WORKING TOWARDS ONLINE TO WHERE
THAT WILL BE DONE. >> FUTURE PLAN TO HAVE ALL PERMITS WHETHER COMMERCIAL, SINGLE-FAMILY, WHATEVER
AVAILABLE ON A PUBLIC. >> AWAY FOR THE PUBLIC TO VIEW OPEN PERMITS IF WE GET THAT SYSTEM IN PLACE?
>> COMMISSIONER INGALSBE. >> YES.
[51. Discussion and possible action to authorize the County Judge to execute an Interlocal Agreement for Drainage Repair and Maintenance between Hays County and the City of Buda in regards to stormwater drainage located under West Robert S. Light as it approaches IH 35.]
>> COMMISSIONER JONES. >> YES.
>> JUDGE BECERRA. >> PLEASE OPEN 51.
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>> POSSIBLE ACTION TO AUTHORIZE THE COUNTY JUDGE TO EXECUTE AGREEMENT FOR DRAINAGE REPAIR AND MAINTENANCE BETWEEN HAYS COUNTY AND THE CITY, IN REGARDS TO STORM WATER DRAINAGE UNDER
WEST ROBERT S LIGHT. >> SO MOVED.
>> A DRAINAGE DITCH COMING THROUGH RIGHT AT 35 THAT HAS BEEN NEEDING TO REHABBED FOR FIVE OR SIX YEARS AT LEAST NOW.
WORKING WITH THE CITY, TO FIND OUT WHO NEEDS TO BE RESPONSIBLE.OING TO SPLIT IT.
>> I KNOW HOW MUCH FUN HE HAD SAID DOING IT.
>> PERFECT. >> PLEASE CALL THE ROLE.>
>> COMMISSIONER JONES. >> YES.
>> SO HAVE YOU REACHED THE END OF THIS?
[60. Discussion related to the Hays County inmate population, to include current population counts and costs.]
>> UNLESS YOU WANT TO DO YOUR JAIL.
>> 60 AT THE VERY BOTTOM. >> DISCUSSION TO THE HAYS COUNTY INMATE POPULATION TO INCLUDE CURRENT POPULATION
COUNTS AND COSTS. >> EACH TIME WE HAVE COURT, SENDS ME A REPORT. IT IS OUR INMATE POPULATION.
INMATES, RECOMMEND HOLDING 10 PERCENT OF THE CAPACITY OPEN WHICH LOWERS OUR CAPACITY 368. PEAK 616 SEPTEMBER 15.
THE COST FOR A RESOURCE INMATES THIS WEEK 75,706.
OUTSOURCE MALES 172. FEMALES GOT OFF THE BUBBLE FROM GOT OFF THE BUBBLE FROM 0 TO 11.
THAT IS THE WAY IT GOES. HOUSED IN THE FOLLOWING COUNTIES. THE REST BY AGENCIES, ONE.
DPS TWO. HAYS COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE 55. CONSTABLE PRECINCT 1, TWO.
KYLE PD, 27. TEXAS STATE UNIVERSITY ZERO.
>> I.E. YOU: >> I MAKE A MOTION TO ADJOURN.
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