Jun 15, 2021 Regular

[LAUGHTER] THEY WAIT FOR THE GAVEL.

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[CALL TO ORDER]

I WANT TO WISH EVERYONE A REALLY GOOD MORNING.

I WOULD LIKE TO CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER.

THIS MORNING'S INVOCATION WILL BE LED BY PASTOR RAMIREZ OF PASTOR METHODIST CHURCH. IF YOU WILL PLEASE ALL RISE.

>> GOOD MORNING. GREETINGS FROM EL PASTOR.

WE WILL EMERGE FROM THIS PANDEMIC WITH A NEW UNDERSTANDING OF HOW -- EXCUSE ME.

HOW HAVE MODIFIED THE ECONOMIC IN MOST COUNTRIES.

SOCIAL DISTANCE, HYGIENE MEASURES, ISOLATION AND WORK FROM HOME HAD TO BE IMPLEMENTED TO REDUCE INFECTION.

AND IT SEEMS THAT SOME OF THE CHANGES MAY BE PERMANENT.

MANY GROUPS AFTER A CRISIS DO HAVE LOSS, BUT NOW NOT DO OTHER THAN TALLY OF GAINS. HERE ARE SOME.

THERE IS HOPE THAT WE CAN BEGIN TO SEE THE WORLD DIFFERENTLY.

PERHAPS WE CAN SEE OUR PROBLEMS AS SHARED AND SOCIETY AS MORE THAN JUST A GROUP OF INDIVIDUALS COMPETING WITH EACH OTHER FOR WEALTH AND SOCIAL POSITION UNTIL NOW NEITHER TEXT MESSAGES NOR TELEPHONES NOR TELEVISION NOR INTERNET, NOT MEETINGS VIS JA I CAN'T ZOOM HAVE DES -- VIA ZOOM HAVE DESTROYED THE HUMAN DESIRE TO SHAKE HANDS, FEEL A HUG AND FIND A FACE. WE WILL EMERGE FROM THIS OF HOW GOVERNMENT AND SOCIETY FACES A CRISIS.

BUT ALL AN UNDERSTANDING HOW WE FACE THE CRISIS PERMANENTLY.

WE MAY HAVE SUFFER LOSSES, BUT WE STILL HAVE THE CHANGE TO TURN TO GOD, TAKE HIS HAND, HAVE HIS SPIRIT AND MOVE ON THE BIBLE SAYS. I HAVE NOT COME UNDER YOU.

BE STRONG AND COURAGEOUS. DO NOT BE AFRAID.

DO NOT BE DISCOURAGED. FOR GOD WILL BE WITH YOU WHEREVER YOU GO. JOSHUA 1:9.

LET US PRAY. DEAR GOD, LET ME NEVER FORINGT FORGET ALL DO YOU FOR ME ON A DAILY BASIS.

SUSTAIN ME WITH THE HOPE OF MY SALVATION AND THE OTHER COUNTLESS BLESSINGS YOU PROVIDE WITH YOUR CONTINUED PRESENCE IN MY LIFE. LEAD ME TO LEAD MY LIFE IN TESTIMONY TO YOUR INCREDIBLE BLESSINGS THAT -- THAT YOUR LOVE MAY BE KNOWN AND EXPERIENCED BY ALL THOSE I SERVE. IN JESUS'S NAME, AMEN.

>> JUDGE BECERRA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO TEXAS, ONE STATE, UNDER GOD, ONE AND

INDIVISIBLE. >> JUDGE, SORRY TO INTERRUPT BUT WE HAVE NO AUDIO FROM THE TEAMS MEETING.

>> JUDGE BECERRA: NO AUDIO FROM THE TEAMS? ARE YOU ABLE TO HEAR US, RIGHT, COMMISSIONER?

CAN YOU HEAR US NOW? >> YES.

>> JUDGE BECERRA: PERFECT. I MOVE ON.

APPRECIATE IT. WILL YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLE

DR. CARDENAS. >> DEBBIE INGALSBE: HERE.

>> MARK JONES: HERE. >> LON SHELL: HERE.

>> MS. CARDENAS: COMMISSIONER SMITH?

>> WALT SMITH: HERE. >> JUDGE BECERRA: HERE.

[PUBLIC COMMENTS]

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ALL QUESTIONS WILL BE TAKEN AS RHETORICAL.

ALL COMMENTS ARE FROM THE SPEAKER AND NOT NECESSARILY CONSTRUED TO TRUTH. KEEP YOUR LANG CIVIL AND CIVIL AND RESPECTFUL FOR YOU ARE LIMIT YOUR TIME.

WE HAVE THREE INDIVIDUALS SIGNED UP TO SPEAK IN THE PUBLIC COMMENTS PORTION JUST TO CLARIFY, WE HAVE INDIVIDUALS SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON AGENDA ITEMS 18 AND 29.

HAVE I LEFT ANYONE OUT? THANK YOU.

FIRST ONE UP PLEASE START THE TIMER FOR MR. ROD RYE GO AMAYA.

>> THANK YOU, JUDGE, COMMISSIONERS.

I AM NOT A BIG FAN OF THE TWO TIMES A MONTH AND FOR US TO HAVE ALL DIFFICULTIES. IT CLEARLY TELLS ME THAT WE NEED TO DO BETTER. EXPECT THESE FOLKS IN CHARGE OF TECHNICAL DIFFICULTY ISSUES AND STUFF LIKE THAT TO MAKE SURE THEY ARE READY. YOU KNOW, WE GOT TO TAKE CARE OF THAT SOONER THE BETTER. ONE OF THE COOL THINGS NOT TO SEE YOU EVERY WEEK IS MORE TIME TO GATHER MATERIAL.

I GOT A CALL ON ROUND ROCK TWIN PEAKS AT 11:00 AT NIGHT.

I DROVE HERE AND A SIGN DROPPED ON THE FLOOR.

I HAVE PICTURES OF IT. THE REASON I BRING THAT UP ABOUT THE CAMERA SYSTEM HE WANTED TO RECONSTRUCT ACCI ACCIDENTS. AS A FORMER TROOPER WE HAD TO GO THROUGH SPECIAL TRAINING. I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH TRAINING HE HAS RECEIVED IN ACCIDENT RECONSTRUCTION BUT I KNOW SPECIAL CLASSES. WHETHER HE IS QUALIFIED OR NOT, I DON'T APPRECIATE WHEN HE COMES UP HERE AND MISREPRESENTED HIS ABILITIES. A LOT OF OFFICERS.

I CALL -- THEY CALL IT BURNING LABOR.

ALL THESE FOLKS SITTING AROUND WITH GUNS MAKING ALL KINDS OF MONEY AND YOU HAVE ALL THESE ISSUES.

THE OTHER DAY I CAME OVER HERE -- A GUY WITH PICTURES OF HIM ON THE GROUND IN THE SIDEWALK. CALLED THEM AND SAID NOT MY JOB. I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO LOOK AT THE VIDEOS OF THE CONSTABLE TALKING OF THE SIM HE WAS PUSHING ON YOU AND LIKE TO SEE IT TO FIGURE OUT WHAT HE WAS GOING -- I DON'T KNOW IF THEY HAVE REMOTE ACCESS FROM ROUND ROCK. AS A FORMER TROOPER, OUR SERGEANT USED TO DO THAT. ANYWAY, A LOT OF DROPPING THE BALL. YOU KNOW I BLAME ALL THESE DIRECTORS. BY BLAME LEGAL COUNSEL.

THEY ARE RESPONSIBLE, BUT Y'ALL ARE THE ULTIMATE SAY-SO.

BECAUSE THIS IS WHERE PEOPLE ARE SUPPOSED TO COME UP HERE AND VOICE THEIR UNAPPROVAL OR FRUSTRATION ABOUT THE WAY THINGS ARE BEING RUN AND YOU HAVE DONE NOTHING.

YOU SIT UP HERE SHAMEFUL THAT THE FORMER JUDGE RODRIGUEZ WAS PASSED UP FOR A POSITION SHE WAS QUALIFIED FOR AND DECIDED TO GO AGAINST THE PUBLIC'S PUSH AND BRING IN SOMEBODY THAT DOESN'T FAVOR THE SITUATION AS WHOLE AND FAVOR Y'ALL'S PERSONAL AGENDAS AND THAT IS WHAT THIS HAS BECOME.

A COURT OF ENABLERS. AND IT -- I TELL YOU, IT DOESN'T STOP. THERE -- MAN ANY CAL OBSESSION -- MANIACAL OBSESSION TO RISE. IT IS COSTING US MILLIONS OF DOLLARS OF LAWSUITS. I AM GOING TO FILE FOR A L LOSS-RUN REPORT AND BRING IN THE LATEST LAWSUITS THAT THIS COUNTY HAD TO PAY OUT BECAUSE OF POOR LEADERSHIP.

THANK YOU. >> JUDGE BECERRA: THANK YOU, MR. AMAYA. OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS MR. DAN

LYON. >> THANK YOU, JUDGE BECERRA AND COMMISSIONERS. GOOD MORNING.

THESE STATS FROM THE COMPTROLLER, CONT CONTROLLER.TEXAS.GOV AND CLICK ON TRANSPARENCY AND FISCAL YEAR 2021. THE DAILY RECORDING OF THE COMPTROLLER $522,815,000. PER CAPITAL THAT WORK OUT TO $2271. THIS IS A DEBT HAYS COUNTY HAD AT THE TIME OF THE AUDITS IF THEY COULD HAVE PAID IT OFF.

THEY COULD NOT AND CANNOT. IF THE DEBT IS HELD TO MATURITY AND THE TOTAL AROUND THREE QUARTERS OF A BILLION DOLLARS.

TOTAL REVENUE FOR THIS FISCAL YEAR, 168,191,795.

WE ARE CAPITAL, THAT IS $65. TOTAL EXPENDITURES $325,

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OBVIOUSLY THERE IS A PROBLEM. THE EXPENDITURES ARE ALMOST TWICE WHAT THE REVENUE IS. TOTAL REVENUE FIGURE INCLUDES STATE, FEDERAL GRANTS, ETC. THIS IS ABOUT HALF OF WHAT THE COUNTY SPENT THIS YEAR. THE PROPERTY TAX REVENUE PER CAPITA, $407. THAT IS FOR EVERY PERSON IN THE COUNTY. SALES TAX REVENUE PER CAPITA IS $97. WE COMPARE COUNTIES WHEN IT COMES TO PAY. LET'S COMPARE COUNTIES' DEBT.

WEBB COUNTY, $76 MILLION IN CHANGE.

$276 PER CAPITA. MCCLEAN NONCOUNTY, $77 MILLION.

$299. JUDSON, ALMOST $41 MILLION, $ $151 PER CAPITA. SMITH, $34 MILLION, $147 PER CAPITA. BRAZOS . MIDLAND, $14 MILLION, $81 PER CAPITA. JOHNSON, $24 MILLION.

$137 PER CAPITA. GUADELOUPE, $11.5 MILLION, $69 PER CAPITA. LET ME GO OVER HAYS COUNTY ONCE AGAIN, $522 MILLION AND CHANGE PER CAPITA.

2271 DOLLARS. IT WAS CLEARLY ON THE GRAPH.

SO FAR ABOVE ALL THE REST THAT THEY LOOKED MINISCULE COMPARED TO WHAT HAYS COUNTY OWNS. THIS IS COMPLETELY UNACC UNACCEPTABLE. AND I HOPE YOU CAN DO BETTER.

THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, MR. LYON.

THE NEXT SPEAKER IS DR. LINDA CALVERT.

>> GOOD MORNING, JUDGE. GOOD MORNING, COMMISSIONERS.

I HAVE -- I HAVE A FEELING THAT WE ARE GOING TO BE SEEING A LOT OF EACH OTHER. AND SOME OF IT I ENJOY.

SOME OF IT I WISH WOULD YOU LISTEN BETTER.

BUT BEYOND THAT, I -- I KIND OF UNDERSTAND WHAT THE SITUATION IS. THE LEAGUE -- THE REDISTRICTING COMMITTEE THE LEAGUE SUBMITTED RECOMMENDATIONS BASED ON YOUR LAST MEETING, THE JUNE 1 MEETING, AND WHAT YOU WERE PROPOSING. THIS WAS SUBMITTED TO ALL OF THE -- TO THE JUDGE AND TO ALL OF THE COMMISSIONERS.

AND IN THAT, WE -- WE REALLY, REALLY QUESTIONED WHETHER IT'S ABSOLUTE THAT THIS IS A PARTISAN PROCESS FOR REDI REDISTRICTING. WE DON'T BELIEVE IT HAS TO BE.

WE BELIEVE THAT THERE ARE REPUBLICANS AND DEMOCRATS AND THIRD-PARTY PEOPLE OUT THERE THAT CAN BRING THOUGHTFUL, INTERACTIVE PROCESS TO THE REDISTRICTING PROCESS.

WE HOPE THAT EACH OF YOU WILL LOOK TO THOSE PEOPLE.

THE OTHER THING THAT WE PROPOSED IN THIS -- IN THESE RECOMMENDATIONS IS A VERY CLEAR PROCESS TO BRING PEOPLE IN.

A VERY -- A PROCESS DESIGNED FOR TRANSPARENCY AND CITIZEN INPUTS. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THIS PARTICULAR ONE THAT I HAVE SUBMITTED FOR THE PUBLIC RECORD, THE WAY IT DIFFERS FROM WHAT YOU RECEIVE IS THAT I AM NO LONGER LISTING THE LEAGUE AS WANTING TO BE A PART OF THE CITIZENS ADVISORY COMMISSION. THE BASIC REASON FOR THIS IS WE WOULD LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND GET ON IT.

WE HAVE TRAINING AND -- AND MAPPING AND IDENTIFYING COMMUNITIES OF INTEREST. AND SO WE HAVE ALREADY STARTED, AS YOU KNOW, THE EDUCATION PROCESS.

AND SO WE ARE GOING TO PROCEED WITH OUR OWN PROCESS TO GIVE YOU GOOD INFORMATION ON COMMUNITIES OF INTEREST AND MAPS THAT ACTUALLY SPEAK TO THE VOTING RIGHTS ACT.

THAT IS ONE OF OUR BIG CONCERNS IS THAT THE REDISTRICTING PROCESS NEEDS TO BE VERY CLEAR IN TERMS OF THE COMPLIANCE WITH

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ATTENTION. >> THANK YOU, DR. CALVERT, THAT CONCLUDES OUR PUBLIC COMMENT PORTION.

AND I WILL NOW START WITH JUST FOR THE VIEWING PUBLIC TO KNOW.

[Items 28 & 37]

THAT IS THE ORDER I WILL TAKE. IF YOU WILL PLEASE OPEN AGENDA

ITEMS 28 AND 37. >> MS. CARDENAS: 28, DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION TO PROVIDE DIRECTION TO STAFF AND CONSULTANTS REGARDING OF ISSUANCE OF PARKS AND OPEN SPACE BONDS PURSUANT TO AUTHORIZATION OF HAYS COUNTY PROPOSITION A IN THE 2020 GENERAL ELECTION.

37. >> JUDGE BECERRA: YES, PLEASE.

>> DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO PREQUALIFY ALL RESPONDENTS RELATED TO RFQ 2 2021-Q 05 WOND UNDERWRITING SERVICES AND PROVIDE A POOL OF QUALIFIED FIRMS AND AUTHORIZE THE HAYS CAVITY AUDITOR AND HAYS COUNTY FINANCIAL ADVISOR TO SELECT FROM THIS POOL FOR FUTURE BOND SALES.

>> JUDGE BECERRA: SO MOVED. >> SECOND.

>> DAN WHITEMILLER WITH SPECIALIZED FINANCE.

THE FIRST TIME TEM 28 RELATED TO DISCUSSING THE TIMELINE TO ISSUE SOME OR ALL OF THE PARK BONDS APPROVED BY VOTERS.

I JUST WANT TO GO OVER THE PROCESS WITH YOU ALL.

ONCE THE VOTERS HAVE APPROVED THE PROPOSITION, YOU HAVE THE ABILITY TO ISSUE IT ALL AT ONE TIME OR BREAK IT UP AS YOU NEED TO MOVE PIECES OR PROJECTS FORWARD.

THE $75 MILLION. YOU HAVEN'T ISSUED ANY PART OF IT AT THIS POINT. YOU HAVE A REFUNDING THAT AUTHORIZED US TO MOVE FORWARD ON JUST IN REFRESH YOUR MEMORY, THAT REFUNDING IS LOOKING AT SAVING OVER $5 MILLION IN DEBT SERVICE COST, REDUCING EXISTING DEBT BY THAT $5 MILLION FIGURE IS THE CURRENT ESTIMATE. IT IS LOWERING INTEREST RATES FROM 3% TO 5% DOWN TO JUST OVER 2%.

AND JUST INCREDIBLY LOW INTEREST RATE ENVIRONMENT WE ARE IN. AS PART OF THAT PROCESS, WE WANTED TO TALK AND MAKE SURE THE $75 MILLION THAT VOTERS AUTHORIZED IF YOU DESIRED TO MOVE FORWARD WITH SOME OF THAT $75 MILLION. WE WORK THAT THROUGH THE PROCESS. ANY TIME WE SELL BONDS WE HAVE TO GO TO THE RATING AGENCIES AND TALK TO STANDARD & POOR'S AT LEAST ABOUT THE PLANS. JUST TO REMIND YOU THE RATING AGENCY GIVES YOU GREAT FEEDBACK OF THE CREDIT WORTHINESS AND CREDIT QUALITY. AND FOR INVESTORS WHETHER THEY WANT TO MAKE DECISIONS TO INVEST IN HAYS COUNTY'S BONDS.

THEY WILL LOOK AT THE ECONOMY AND FINANCIAL PERFORMANCE AND LOOK AT THE DEBT LEVELS YOU WILL CARRY AND LOOK AT THE MANAGEMENT DECISIONS THAT TAKE PLACE.

CURRENTLY YOU OBVIOUSLY HAVE AN EXCELLENT BOND RATING.

THE ENVIRONMENT IS VERY STRONG. FROM AN INTEREST RATE PERSPECTIVE. THE LEVELS THAT WE WERE -- WHEN YOU TOOK THIS TO THE VOTERS, OBVIOUSLY WE WERE STILL IN THE MIDST OF THE VERY REAL PANDEMIC SITUATION.

THE INTEREST RATES CONTINUE TO STAY LOW.

I WOULD ESTIMATE IF WE WENT OUT TO SELL THESE TODAY YOU WOULD BE SOMEWHERE AROUND 2% AS FAR AS INTEREST RATE LEVELS.

WE ARE VERY COMFORTABLE THAT IT FITS WITHIN YOUR DEBT STRUCTURE AND THE CASH FLOW THAT IT LOOKS LIKE YEAR-OVER-YEAR IN SETTING THE DEBT RATE SO WITH THAT KIND OF A SUMMARY ON 28 TO REALLY PUT THAT OUT THERE AS FAR AS THE DISCUSSION OR ANY DIRECTION TO BE GIVEN TO MOVE FORWARD WITH SOME OF THE $75 MILLION TO THE MARKET PLACE. I KNOW THERE IS CONSIDERATION OF VARIOUS PROGRAMS TO THE STATE LEVEL THAT MAY ENTERTAIN SOME OF THAT BOND AUTHORIZATION.

THOSE ISSUANCES CAN BE TAKEN SEPARATELY.

AS YOU ARE DOING ON THE BOND PROGRAM.

THE VOTERS APPROVE IT AND YOU ROLL OUT PIECES WHEN YOU ARE READY TO MOVE FORWARD AND HOLD BACK PIECES WHEN YOU ARE NOT

READY TO MOVE. >> MY FIRST QUESTION, DAN AND THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. MY FIRST QUESTION TO YOU IS.

I AM VERY INTERESTED IN BEING AS FRUGAL AS POSSIBLE AND SUPPORT THE VOTERS WITH -- WHAT THEY VOTED FOR.

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ROLL OUT IN WAYS THAT IS FURTHER MOST FRUGAL AS A

COUNTY, CORRECT? >> THAT'S RIGHT, JUDGE.

AS PARTS OF THAT, OUR BASIC AND WHAT WE ARE ALWAYS ADVISE YOU TO MOVE FORWARD ON. EVEN THOUGH INTEREST RATES ARE LOW, WE DON'T WANT TO SELL BONDS AND NUMBER ONE, THE IRS EXPECT WHAT YOU SELL YOU CAN SPEND IN THREE YEARS.

SO THAT IS KIND OF THE FIRST POINT TO WATCH.

THE SECOND PIECE LOCK IN LOW INTEREST RATES AND FOCUS WHAT THE NEED IS BECAUSE NOBODY WOULD HAVE MET THAT RATES WILL CONTINUE TO BE AT THIS LEVEL OVER THE LAST REALLY TEN PLUS YEARS. SO JUST CONTINUE TO TREND DOWN.

ALWAYS ADVISABLE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH WHAT YOU KNOW YOU CAN SPEND WE KNOW YOU ARE NOT EARNING A TON OF INTEREST ON THE MONEY AND NEVER A RATIONALE TO ISSUE AND EARN THE INTEREST BECAUSE NOT MUCH THERE TO BE EARNED; HOWEVER, IT IS MORE ABOUT PROJECTS. YOU ARE RIGHT.

YOU CAN ROLL THIS OUT AND BE FRUGAL OF ONLY TAKING ON WHAT YOU ARE READY TO MOVE FORWARD ON.

>> JUDGE BECERRA: COMMISSIONER SHELL.

>> LON SHELL: I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR FROM OUR GENERAL COUNSEL MARK KENNEDY AND WORKING WITH MR. WHITE MILLER AND WITH THE PROJECTS THAT MAY BE READY VERSUS SOME THAT MAY NOT BE AND WHAT WE WOULD CONSIDER FOR THE ISSUANCE.

>> JUDGE BECERRA: MR. KENNEDY. >> SURE.

WE TALKED ABOUT THE CLEAN WATER STATE REVOLVING FUND BEING ONE OPTION, AND WE HAVE AN APPLICATION IN TO THEM.

AND WE HIRED TEXAS WATER TRADE TO REPRESENT NEWS THAT DEAL.

AND THAT'S ALL ONGOING. THAT ISN'T DUE TO -- WE ARE NOT DUE TO RECEIVE ANY INFORMATION, ANY FEEDBACK, ANY CONFIRMATION UNTIL 2022 ON THAT. IF YOU WANTED TO WAIT TO HEAR THE RESULTS OF THAT, THEN WOULD YOU WANT TO CONSIDER THAT WE CAN QUALIFY FOR UP TO $30 MILLION FROM THE STATE REVOLVING FUND. THAT IS A BOND.

IT IS NOT DIFFERENT THAN WHAT YOU ALL WOULD DO WITH ISSUING BONDS UNDER THE AUTHORITY WE HAVE HERE EXCEPT THAT THIS WOULD GO GENERALLY TO THE MARKET AND CLEAN WATER STATE REVOLVING FUND IS A TRANSACTION WITH A SINGLE ENTITY AND AT A -- AND AT ONE POINT AT A MUCH MORE FAVORABLE RATE AND EVEN THE POSSIBILITY OF PRINCIPAL FORGIVENESS WHICH IS WHY IT WAS APPEALING. WITH THE RATES DROPPING THE WAY THEY HAVE AND THE CLEAN WATER STATE REVOLVING FUND.

I HEARD THEY MAY BE REASSESSING THE PROGRAM A LITTLE BIT AND SOME OF THE DISTINCTIONS BETWEEN THE GENERAL MARKET AND THE REVOLVING FUND MAY BE GOING AWAY.

I DON'T THINK -- I HAVE ENOUGH INFORMATION TO CONFIRM THAT Y YET. SO, YOU KNOW, I JUST -- THINGS I HAVE BEEN HEARING. THOSE ARE IDEAS AND CONSIDERATIONS FOR YOU TO MAKE AND TO HAVE.

WE HAVE BEEN SAYING WE THOUGHT THAT IF -- IF YOU WANTED TO CONSIDER THE $30 MILLION THAT PERHAPS A FIRST TROUNCH OF $45 MILLION WILL BE APPROPRIATE KNOWING THAT THE POZAK APPROVED IN THE RANGE OF $50 MILLION TO $52 MILLION TOTAL ALL TIER 1 AND TIER PROJECT. WHEN I SAY THEY APPROVED A RECOMMENDATION TO THE COURT OF PROJECTS THAT THEY CONSIDERED ALREADY. THAT IS NOT AN OBLIGATION OF THIS COURT. THE COURT WILL HAVE TO CONSIDER THE VIABILITY OF EVERY SINGLE PROJECT INDIVIDUALLY AND DECIDE HOW MUCH TO FUND IT AND HOW TO FUND IT.

NOT ALL OF THOSE POSACK RECOMMENDATIONS WERE IF YOU WILL AMOUNT THAT WERE REQUESTED BY THE APPLICANT.

AND SO THOSE CONVERSATIONS STILL NEED TO HAVE -- TO BE HAD WITH THOSE APPLICANTS. SOME OF THEM I HAD WITH APPLICANTS AND SOME HAVE NOT. WE HAVE A DECENT NUMBER OF PROJECTS, AND WE ARE JUST TRYING TO COVER THEM AS BEST WE CAN. RIGHT NOW MORE OF A CONVERSATION. NOT A NEGOTIATION, BUT AT SOME POINT WITH EACH OF THESE APPLICANTS AN EACH OF THESE PROJECTS, THE COVERINGS WILL TRANSITION INTO SOME FORM OF CONTRACT OR TRANSACTION. AND WE WILL -- THAT WILL TAKE

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BUT CERTAINLY YOU HAVE THE ABILITY TO AUTHORIZE THE I SHALL -- ISSUANCE OF ALL OF IT IN CONSIDERATION OF THE RATES THAT YOU TALKED ABOUT, JUDGE.

>> JUDGE BECERRA: THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER -- I MEAN MR.

KENNEDY. >> QUELL FOR MR. WHITE MILLER, WHEN GO TO THE MARKET FOR AN ISSUANCE, ADDITIONAL COST DOING MORE THAN ONE OF THOSE, FOR INSTANCE, IF WE GO WITH THE $45 MILLION, GO GET EVERYTHING READY, CREDIT AGENCIES COME AND DO EVERYTHING THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO DO AND GO TO MARKET, WHEN WE COME BACK TO DO THAT AGAIN, SOUTH FLORIDA AN ADDITIONAL

COST TO THE COUNTY? >> THAT'S RIGHT.

EACH TIME YOU ARE CREATING A DIFFERENT BOND ORDER.

YOU ARE SUBMITTING A DIFFERENT ISSUANCE OF MARKETPLACE.

THAT IS WHY, NUMBER ONE, WE RECOMMEND THAT YOU DON'T ISSUE FREQUENTLY THROUGHOUT THE YEAR. IF YOU KIND OF LOOK AT 12 TO 24-MONTH HORIZON THAT YOU WANT TO ISSUE THROUGH BECAUSE YOU WILL ENCOURAGE ADDITIONAL RATING FEES.

IT IS MORE EFFICIENT FOR CERTAIN PARTS OF IT AS YOU INCREASE THE AMOUNT OF ISSUE. SO IF YOU DID $45 MILLION.

BUT COME BACK A YEAR OR TWO YEARS LATER, YOU WILL HAVE ADDITIONAL FEES BUT YOU ARE ALSO NOT ISSUING DEBT OR SITTING PAYING INTEREST OVER A 12 OR 24-MONTH PERIOD TO -- MR. KENNEDY'S REMARKS. I WOULD JUST ECHO THE STATE HAS GREAT PROGRAMS TO LOOK AT. VARIOUS PIECES.

PEOPLE LOOK AT JUST TO -- TO COMMISSIONER SHELL'S POINT.

THERE ARE ELEMENTS TO GOING TO THE STATE.

THEY JUST INSTITUTED A CAP ON THEIR INTEREST RATES OR A FLOOR BECAUSE RATES HAVE DROPPED SO MUCH ZERO OR SUB ZERO INTEREST RATES. THEY MADE MODIFICATION AND PULLED SOME PROGRAMMING BACK IN.

SO SOMETHING THAT I WOULD RECOMMEND IF YOU KNOW THAT MONEY IS GOING TO BE SOMETHING YOU WANT TO CONSIDER DOWN THE ROAD, THEN YOU CARVE OUT THE UP TO $30 MILLION IF YOU WERE NOT READY TO SPEND IT AND POTE POTENTIALLY THE NEXT 18 TO 24 MONTHS THEN WE LEAVE THAT AND COME BACK AND ISSUE.

IF WE ARE ISSUING WITHIN SIX MONTHS, MAY MAKE MORE SENSE TO BUNDLE IT, BUT IF WE ARE GOING BEYOND THE YEAR, MAKE SENSE TO MAKE SURE ALL THE ELEMENTS OF THE PROGRAM AND IF NOT, WE WILL GO BACK TO THE MARKET PLACE TO DO THAT PHASE.

>> ON THAT FRONT, HOW MUCH ARE WE TALKING EVERY TIME YOU GO OUT TO MARKET AS A COST TO THE COUNTY?

>> THAT IS A GREAT QUESTION. ROUGHLY SAY IF YOU ARE LOOKING AT $30 MILLION. YOU ARE LOOKING SOMEWHERE AROUND $95,000 WHEN YOU ISSUE PLUS IF IT IS A COMPETITIVE PROCESS WHERE YOU JUST TAKE BIDS, IT COMES IN RIGHT AROUND $95,000 GIVE OR TAKE. IF YOU WERE LOOKING AT A NEGOTIATED PROCESS BLENDING IT WITH, SAY, A REFUNDING AND OTHER OPPORTUNITIES, THAT COST WILL VARY, AND AGAIN THERE ARE EFFICIENCIES. THE RATING FEE IF WE DID ONE RATING ON A $30 MILLION ISSUE THEN CAME BACK SIX MONTHS LA LATER. THOSE FEES ARE GOING TO BE THE SAME. IF YOU DO THEM TIM, YOU ARE PROBABLY GOING TO SHAVE OFF 50 OF THE ISSUANCE FEE.

PART OF THE REASON WE WANTED TO BRING UP THIS BE MINDFUL OF THE

COST THAT YOU ENSURE. >> JUDGE BECERRA: COMMISSIONER SMITH ANY QUESTIONS OR COM COMMENTS.

>> WALT SMITH: NO. THE ONE COMMENT I WOULD MAKE.

I AM VERY CONCERNED OF THE PROJECTS AND THEY ARE ALMOST THERE AND SOME OF THE COMMENTS TO BE ABLE TO -- [INAUDIBLE] -- IN A VERY QUICK MANNER.

JUST ENSURE THAT WE GET MONEY THE YEAR BECAUSE SOME OF THOSE GROUPS ARE WAITING ON THOSE FUNDS AND KNOW THE PROJECT --

>> JUDGE BECERRA: OKAY, THANK YOU, SIR.

COMMISSIONER INGALSBE? >> DEBBIE INGALSBE: I GUESS JUST TO FOLLOW UP ON WHAT COMMISSIONER SMITH SAYS.

I DON'T HAVE THAT LIST OF PROJECTS IN FRONT OF ME AND IT HAS BEEN A LITTLE WHILE SINCE WE LOOKED AT THOSE AS A COURT AND DISCUSSED THOSE. I DON'T KNOW WHAT STAGE THOSE PROJECTS ARE IN. MAYBE THEY ARE NOT SHOVEL READY AS WAS MENTIONED BUT ARE WE CONFIDENT THAT THEY WILL BE

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I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT FOR US TO LOOK AT THAT AGAIN AND SEE

WHERE WE ARE AT THOSE PROJECTS. >> SURE, COMMISSIONERS SOME OF THESE PROJECTS ARE TRANS TRANSACTIONAL PROJECTS AND -- A CONSERVATION EASEMENT WITH SOME PUBLIC ACCESS COMPONENT AND THOSE ARE -- A LITTLE FASTER TO GET TO THE MONEY PART OF -- OF THE -- OF THE CONTRACT OF THE ARRANGEMENTS.

OTHERS WILL REQUIRE SOME ADVANCE PLANNING.

ACTUALLY THE COUNTY PROJECTS, EVEN THOUGH I WOULD SAY THEY ARE QUOTE, UNQUOTE, SHOVEL READY BECAUSE WE HAVE -- WE HAVE SITE CONTROL AND ALL THAT. QUITE BIT OF PLANNING THAT GOES INTO THE PROJECT BEFORE THE FIRST SHOVEL HITS THE GROUND.

THEY WILL VARY, BUT I THINK WE DON'T NEED TO WORRY ABOUT ARBITRAGE OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT WITH ANY OF THE PROJECTS THAT

WE HAVE. >> JUDGE, IF I CAN ADD ONE MORE THING. YOU HAVE DONE IN THE PAST AND YOUR AUDITORS OFFICE HAVE BEEN ON TOP OF THIS, REIMBURSEMENT THAT YOU CAN APPROVE ANY TIME TO SPEND MONEY OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND AND REIMBURSEIER SELF.

THAT BRIDGES THE GAP. IF YOU DON'T GO TO THE IF YOU WILL AMOUNT OF 45 WITH THE OTHER 30 SITTING THERE.

IF YOU SAID LOOK AT THE LIST AND WE DON'T NEED ANY DIRECTION TODAY NECESSARILY, BUT OVER THE NEXT MONTH OR SO AS WE ARE PLANNING THE REFUNDING ISSUE. IF WE WANT TO MOVE FORWARD, WE CAN DO THAT AND IN COMBINATION OF TAKING DOWN SOME OF THE BOND MONEY AND ALSO LOOKING AT HAVING REIMBURSEMENT IN PLACE TO SIMPLY NOT ISSUE THE DEBT OR MOVE FORWARD WITH PROJECTS.

AND WHEN WE GO TO ISSUE A FUTURE PAY, PAY YOU BACK.

>> WILL WE DO THAT AND ISSUE -- IF WE GET THE $30 MILLION LATER

R, REIMBURSE THEMSELVES. >> YES, THERE IS NO REQUIREMENT THAT YOU RESOLVE -- THAT YOU -- THAT YOU EXECUTED A REIMBURSEMENT RESOLUTION TO SOFT COST.

IT IS -- THE CLOCK FOR YOU TO PASS AND EXECUTE A REIMBURSEMENT RESOLUTION IS REALLY THE CLOCK STARTS ON THE FIRST HARD COST YOU HAVE ASSOCIATED WITH THE PROJECT.

SO WE PROBABLY HAVE SOME TIME THERE AS WELL.

>> WHAT IS OUR CURRENT RATE SOMETHING IN.

>> CURRENT RATE SOMETHING DOUBLE A.

TWO NOTCHES AWAY FROM THE HIGHEST RATING POSSIBLE, AAA.

>> JUST TO CLARIFY FOR THE VIEWING PUBLIC, A AAA IS NOT SOMETHING OBTAINABLE FOR US. WE HAVE THE HIGHEST OBTAINABLE.

WE ARE SITTING AT THE AA BECAUSE THAT IS THE BEST PLACE

TO BE, CORRECT? >> CORRECT.

IF ANYTHING IN THE PRIOR REPORTS YOU ARE IN A GROWTH MODE AND PART OF THE THING WITH GROWTH IS YOU ARE ADDING VALUE.

YOU ARE ADDING POPULATION. BUT THEY ALSO KNOW YOU ARE ADDING NEEDS. YOU HAVE NEEDS WHETHER IT IS INFRASTRUCTURE OR, YOU KNOW, ALL THE SLEW OF THINGS YOU KNOW BETTER THAN I DO. SO YOUR RATE SOMETHING SOLIDLY A DOUBLE A. WITH ANYTHING, UPWARD PRESSURE JUST AS GROWTH AND OTHER THINGS CONTINUE TO HAPPEN WITHIN THE

COUNTY. >> AND WHEN THEY ARE LOOKING AT OUR -- THEY LOOK AT THE OVERLAPPING DEBT AROUND THE

SCHOOL DISTRICT'S MUNICIPALITY. >> COMPARING IT ACROSS THE COUNTY AND OTHER STATES FUND MANY ELEMENTS THROUGH A STATE INCOME TAX OR THROUGH A STATE BOND BANK IN TEXAS AND WE PUSH EVERYTHING TO THE LOCAL LEVEL AND LOCAL SCHOOL BOND ELECTION, LOCAL CITY NEEDS, COUNTIES, AND SO THE DEBT PER CAPITA ON A -- WITHIN THE STATE IS HIGHER COMPARED TO OTHER STATES STATES, AND THIS IS WHY YOUR RATE IS AA COMPARING IT ACROSS THE COUNTRY BECAUSE THERE ARE OTHER STATES THAT HAVE DIFFERENT WAYS TO ATTACK FUNDING AT DIFFERENT LEVELS.

>> THANK YOU. >> DEBBIE INGALSBE: I WAS GOING TO ASK, JUDGE, COME BACK WITH AN AGENDA ITEM TO LOOK AT THE PROJECTS ONE MORE TIME AND TRY TO GET SOME SORT OF AN ESTIMATE ON WHICH PROJECTS ARE READY TO GO AND WHAT STAGES THEY ARE IN SO WE CAN -- WELL, MAYBE FOR ME, BETTER IDENTIFY A NUMBER THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO ISSUE.

>> MAYBE WHAT KIND OF FUNDING WE WILL GIVE EACH PROJECT.

>> JUDGE BECERRA: I WOULD LIKE TO SAY SINCE DIRECTION IS PART OF THE CONVERSATION HERE, I WOULD LIKE FOR US TO PROVIDE THE DIRECTION TODAY TO REACH FOR THE $30 MILLION APPLI APPLICATION, CLEAN WATER STATE REVOLVING FUND.

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IF YOU WILL SPEED AHEAD. MAKE SURE NOTHING IN THE WAY OF APPLYING FOR THAT, SPECIFICALLY BECAUSE IT IS LOCAL.

SUPPORT LOCAL. SUPPORT YOUR STATE.

AND THE FORGIVENESS POTENTIAL. THAT TO ME IS PREIOUS.

AS PRECIOUS AS OUR WATER AND I WOULD LIKE FOR COURT TO KNOW IF YOU WILL SPEED OR IF YOU WILL STEAM AHEAD OF THE REVOLVING FUND AT THE $30 MILLION LIMIT THAT IS AVAILABLE.

IF THAT IS AGREEABLE OF THE COURT.

I SEE HEADS NODDING. AND THE OTHER PART IS, I LOVE WHAT YOU SAID COMMISSIONER INGALSBE OF FRESHENING UP THE -- THE LIST. BUT I FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH MOVING FORWARD ON THIS AS -- AS WE ARE WITH A DOLLAR AMOUNT AS WELL BECAUSE VOTER APPROVED, POSAC VETTED.

POSAC 2.0, REVETTING AND AS COMMISSIONER SMITH SAID, WE HAVE A LOT OF THINGS IN MOTION. A LOT OF PEOPLE READY.

AEVERYTHING IS THERE AND I WOULD HATE TO HAVE ANY UNNECESSARY FOOT DRAGGING ESPECIALLY WHEN MONEY IS CHEAP AND I KNOW FOR SURE WE CAN WITHIN THE NEXT THREE YEARS MOVE THROUGH SAY 50 MILLION TOTAL AND GOOD TO ARTICULATE IN A FUTURE MEANING THAT WE NEED TO GIVE THEM THE NOD TO MOVE FORWARD ON A DOLLAR AMOUNT THAT WE SAY MAKES SENSE UNLESS YOU GUYS WANT TO WAIT. INGALSBE FINGZ WE ARE GOING TO TAKE ACTION. I KNOW DAN SAID THERE IS -- NO ACTION THAT NECESSARILY NEEDS TO BE TAKEN TODAY, BUT IF WE ARE, THEN CAN WE LIST -- CAN WE GET, YOU KNOW A LIST OF WHAT WE BELIEVE, MARK, ARE THE PROJECTS READY TO GO THAT WE CAN

IDENTIFY TODAY? >> SURE, I CAN -- I CAN GO OVER

THEM. >> JUDGE BECERRA: I AM NOT TRYING TO RUSH THIS AND I DON'T -- I AM SORRY IF I MAKE YOU FEEL RUSH BUT I DON'T WANT US TO NEEDLESSLY WAIT IF THE PROJECTS HAVE BEEN APPROVED, IF THE COMMUNITY HAS BEEN SUPPORTED, IF THE VOTERS HAD SAID YES, IF THE RATES ARE LOW, I DON'T -- I DON'T WANT TO BE THE PERSON WHO SAYS, WELL,

LET'S WAIT A LITTLE LONGER. >> DEBBIE INGALSBE: I

UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT JUST -- >> ONE THING TO ADD HAVE PARALLEL TRACKS. WE HAVE DOCUMENTS TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE PUBLIC OFFERING.

IF YOU WANT TO BRING BACK TO A FUTURE COURT SESSION THE LIST AND DISCUSS IT, YOU KNOW, AND JUST GO OVER IT.

IT WON'T SLOW US DOWN BECAUSE WE CAN PLUG IN THAT NUMBER 30 DAYS FROM NOW, 45 DAYS FROM NOW AS WE ARE PREPARING AND GIVES YOU TIME SO WE CAN START AND WORK THAT WAY.

>> DEBBIE INGALSBE: COMMISSIONER, WE ARE MEETING NEXT WEEK. IF WE BRING THAT NEXT WEEK.

I AM FINE WITH THAT. >> JUDGE BECERRA: RECAP WITH THE VIEWING PUBLIC. AS LONG AS WE ALL THINK IT IS A GOOD IDEA, BRING BACK THE UPDATING OF THE LIST, BUT IN THE MEANTIME YOU HAVE OUR SUPPORT TO START THE PAPERWORK AND KNOW THAT WE WILL BE SITTING IN A PLACE THAT THANK IS IN THE VICINITY OF $30 MILLION TO $50 MILLION NO MATTER WHAT AND PLUG IN THAT DOLLAR AMOUNT WITHIN THE NEXT 30, 45 DAYS BASED ON THE CONVERSATION WE HAVE AND HOW WE PRIORITIZE THINGS. MR. KENNEDY?

>> I WILL NOTE THAT I WAS LOOKING BACK ON MY AGENDA WHEN YOU ASKED THAT QUESTION. I THINK IT IS APPROPRIATE THAT SOME OF THE SUBJECTS ARE DISCUSSED IN EXECUTIVE SESSION WITH REAL ESTATE. WE WILL HAVE AN EXECUTIVE COMPONENT TO NEXT WEEK'S AGENDA TO DISCUSS THE PROJECTS AS W

WELL. >> PERFECT.

ANYTHING ELSE MR. WHITE MILLER. >> NOT ON THIS ITEM.

>> YOU NEED ANYTHING ON 37? >> 37, YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS

ON THAT ONE. >> JUDGE BECERRA: OKAY, THANK

YOU, SIR. >> THANK YOU ALL.

>> JUDGE BECERRA: ON 37, WE HAVE THE AUDITOR'S OFFICE REPRESENTATIVE HERE. ANYTHING WOULD YOU LIKE TO

CONTRIBUTE TO THAT AGENDA ITEM? >> YES, SIR, VICKY DORSETT, ASSISTANT COUNTY AUDITOR. IN MARCH THE COMMISSIONERS

COURT TO GO OUT -- >> SORRY, VICKI, IS THERE A WAY TO SILENCE THAT? AND WHEN YOU LEARN HOW, PLEASE TELL ME BECAUSE I WANT TO DO THE SAME FOR MY COMPUTER.

THANK YOU. >> I JUST DON'T WANT TO MUTE

HIM. >> IF WE MUTE YOU ON ACCIDENT AND RAISE YOUR HAND WHEN YOU ARE READY TO SPEAK COMMISSIONER SMITH, WE WILL HAPPILY ACKNOWLEDGE YOU.

SORRY, VICKI. >> THAT IS OKAY.

IN MARCH OF THIS YEAR, THE COMMISSIONERS COURT AUTHORIZED OUR PURCHASING DIVISION TO GO OUT FOR SOLICITATION FOR BOND UNDERWRITING SERVICES. WE ISSUED THAT.

WE RECEIVED 20 PROPOSALS. AND WE ARE RECOMMENDING THE

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AND AFTER SCORING AND REVIEWING OF ALL FIRMS THAT SUBMITTED PROPOSALS, WE ARE RECOMMENDING TO AUTHORIZE ALL PROPOSALS BE PUT IN A POOL TO BE UTILIZED FOR FUTURE BOND SALES.

THIS WILL BE AT THE DIRECTION OF THE COUNTY AUDITOR AND THE COUNTY FINANCIAL ADVISOR TO UTILIZE THAT POOL.

>> JUDGE BECERRA: OKAY. COMMISSIONERS, ANY QUESTIONS OR

COMMENTS? >> DEBBIE INGALSBE: PRETTY

STRAIGHTFORWARD. >> JUDGE BECERRA: SO WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE. AND SO THIS WOULD BE TO ADOPT THAT SUGGESTION OF THAT LIST FOR FUTURE PULLING ON.

PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. >> DEBBIE INGALSBE: YES.

>> MS. CARDENAS: COMMISSIONER SMITH.

>> WALT SMITH: IF I AM NOT MUTED, YES.

>> JUDGE BECERRA: HE SAID YES, WE HEARD HIM.

>> MARK JONES: YES. >> LON SHELL: YES.

>> JUDGE BECERRA: YES. OKAY, VICKI.

YOU ARE SQUARED AWAY. THANK YOU, DAN.

WILL YOU PLEASE OPEN AGENDA ITEMS NUMBER 30 AND 36.

>> MS. CARDENAS: 30, DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION

[Items 30 & 36]

36, DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION TO ADOPT THE RULES AND PROCEDURES FOR DETERMINING WHICH FIRES WARRANT INVESTIGATION BY THE COUNTY FIRE MARSHAL'S OFFICE IN THE UNINCORPORATED AREAS OF THE COUNTY PURSUANT TO CHAPTER 352 OF THE TEXAS LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE.

>> DEBBIE INGALSBE: SO MOVED. >> SECOND.

>> MR. MENDENHALL. >> NATHAN MENDENHALL, THE FIRE MARSHAL HERE IN HAYS COUNTY. I WANT TO THANK YOU JUDGE FOR SPONSORING THESE TWO ITEMS FOR ME.

THE FIRST ITEM NUMBER 30 IS FURTHERANCE OF CUSTOMER SERVICE INITIATIVE ON BEHALF OF THE FIRE MARSHAL'S OFFICE TO HAVE ANOTHER WAY FOR FOLKS TO PAY THEIR PERDUE FEES FOR THE FIRE MARSHAL. CURRENTLY OFFER DEBIT CARDS, CREDIT CARDS AND PAYMENT BY MAIL AND WILL ALLOW FOLKS TO PAY E CHECKS TO AVOID THE WHOLE MAIL PROCESS WITH STAMPS ON THE RISE AND COST OF ENVELOPES AND THAT KIND OF THING.

THE ACH AGREEMENT. WE ARE ALREADY USING CERTIFIED PAYMENTS AND THIS AMENDS THE AGREEMENT WITH CERTIFIED PAYMENTS TO ALLOW FOR THE E CHECK ACTION WHICH IS --

ECHECKS FOR GOV PAY. >> JUDGE BECERRA: THIS WILL RUSH US ALL THE WAY UP TO THE 1980S.

I THINK IT IS A GREAT IDEA TO ALLOW PEOPLE TO PAY ELECTRONICALLY. COMMISSIONERS, ON THAT ITEM, ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS. PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

>> MARK JONES: YES. >> LON SHELL: YES.

>> WALT SMITH: YES. >> DEBBIE INGALSBE: YES.

>> JUDGE BECERRA: YES. NOW MR. MENDENHALL NUMBER 36.

>> ITEM 36 IS AN EFFORT TO ACTUALLY SOMETHING WE SHOULD HAVE BEEN DOING A LONG TIME A AGO, BUT THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE ON CHAPTER 352 STATES THAT THE COUNTY COMMISSIONER COURSE WITH THE ADVICE OF THE COUNTY FIRE MARSHAL SHALL ADOPT RULES AND PROCEDURES FOR DETERMINING WHICH FIRES WARRANT INVESTIGATION BY THE COUNTY FIRE MARSHAL AS WE HAVE RESEARCHED THIS. THE COMPANY HAS NOT DONE THAT PREVIOUSLY AND WE ARE WRAPPING THAT UP.

THIS IS AN ONGOING EFFORT BETWEEN MYSELF AND SOME OF THE OTHER FIRE MARSHALS, KYLE, BUDA IN GETTING THEIR INPUT.

AND TO SET A STANDARD OF WHEN THE FIRE DEPARTMENTS NEED TO CALL US OUT FOR A FIRE THAT THEY ARE WANTING INVESTIGATED, AND THIS SETS THE PARAMETER FOR THAT AND SETS THE RULES AND PROCEDURES HOW THAT IS DONE. THE BACK AND FORTH BETWEEN ME AND THE OFFICERS AND PRESENT THIS AT THE FIRE CHIEF ASSOCIATION MEETING LAST MONTH, AND SO THIS IS THE -- THE FINAL VERSION OF THAT THAT HAS BEEN THROUGHOUT COUNTY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE WITH HIS INPUT AND HERE BEFORE YOU TODAY.

>> JUDGE BECERRA: THE REASON I SUPPORTED THIS WHOLEHEARTEDLY AS DIRECTOR OF EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT I LEARNED SO QUICKLY THE POWER OF ORDER AND WHEN THE FEDS STEP IN, THE STATE HAS A

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NO OKAY, THE STATE IS HERE AND TAKING OVER.

JUDGE, SIT DOWN. NO, NO, THEY MADE IT REAL CLEAR THROUGHOUT THE PANDEMIC. WE ARE HERE AS THE STATE TO SUPPORT YOU. AND THOSE CLEAR LINES WHEN ALL THESE DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS AND COMMISSIONS AND EVERYTHING ELSE IS IN MOTION WITH THE SAME END IN MIND THAT I FEEL THAT THERE ARE FEWER OPPORTUNITIES TO MISS CRITICAL THINGS.

AND SO I THINK THIS IS A -- A WONDERFUL THING THAT -- THAT YOU BROUGHT FORTH AND THAT THE CHIEFS ARE ALL WORKING WITH YOU ON THIS FRONT IS ALSO EXCEPTIONALLY WELL BECAUSE I NEVER WANT TO UNDER MINE THE CAMARADERIE AND TEAMWORK WE HAVE COUNTYWIDE AND NEVER WANT TO EAS YOU WERE A CHIEF AS WELL, AND WITH THAT, THIS IS -- IT MAKES GOOD SENSE.

COMMISSIONERS ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS.

QUESTIONS? >> DEBBIE INGALSBE: I JUST WANTED TO ASK. ON THE STRUCTURE FIRES.

I SEE THAT THE LOSS EXCEEDS BY $5,000 THEN YOU GO OUT AND INVESTIGATE. WHAT HAPPENS WHEN IT DOESN'T EXCEED THAT WHEN IT IS JUST RIGHT BELOW THAT?

>> THERE IS STILL THE -- THE FACT BASICALLY THAT IF -- IF THE FIRE IS CRIMINAL IN NATURE, WE WILL GO TO IT BECAUSE THAT IS A CRIMINAL ELEMENT. SO IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT THE VALUE IS AT THAT POINT. $5,000 IS TYPICALLY A NUMBER THAT OTHER COUNTIES USE AS A NUMBER AND THAT IS BASICALLY BECAUSE OF THE INSURANCE DEDUCTIBLES RIGHT AT 5,000 OR RIGHT AT THAT NUMBER AND YOU WON'T DEALING WITH A INSURANCE CLAIM IF IT IS UNDER THAT AND STATUTORILY, THE MONETARY INTO

A FELONY. >> WONDERFUL QUESTION AND TRIANGULATES A LOT OF ISSUES. SOMEONE WAS TRYING TO BURN THEIR OWN BUILDING DOWN. THEY WILL AUTOMATICALLY BE TRIGGERED.THAT IS A GREAT QUESTION.

IF NOTHING ELSE, DR. CARDENAS, PLEASE CALL THE ROLE.

>> WALT SMITH: YES. >> MARK JONES: YES.

>> LON SHELL: YES. >> DEBBIE INGALSBE: YES.

>> JUDGE BECERRA: YES. THANK YOU, MR. MENDENHALLL.

[29. Discussion and possible action to form a Citizens Advisory Commission on Redistricting. BECERRA]

OPEN 29. >> MS. CARDENAS: DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO FORM A CITIZENS ADVISORY COMMISSION ON

REDISTRICTING. >> DEBBIE INGALSBE: SO MOVED.

>> SECOND. >> JUDGE BECERRA: WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND. FIRST ONE IS LARRY CALVERT AND PLEASE APPROACH THE PODIUM AND GIVE HIM THREE MINUTES ON THAT

TIMER. >> GOOD MORNING, JUDGE AND COMMISSIONERS. I'M HERE AS LW B LEAGUE MEMBER AND NOT SPEAKING FOR THE LE LEAGUE.

LIKE YOU, I RECOGNIZE THAT REDISTRICTING IS A IMPORTANT AND DIFFICULT TASK. YOU WERE ELECTED BY THE PEOPLE TO REPRESENT THEM AND LIKE YOU THE LEAGUE'S MISSION IS TO REPRESENT THE PEOPLE. SINCE HAYS COUNTY HAS BEEN AMONG THE TOP TEN FASTEST GROWING COUNTY IN THE NATION, YOUR REDISTRICTING JOB HAS TO BE ONE OF THE TOUGHEST IN THE NATION. THE LEAGUE LIKE HAYS COUNTY, THE LEAGUE HAS GROWN RAPIDLY AND INCREASED OUR VIEW FROM SAN MARCOS LEAGUE TO HAYS COUNTY LEAGUE.

AS YOU KNOW THE LEAGUE IS A NONPARTISAN VIEW.

I REVIEWED THE POPULATION DATA AND WOULD LIKE TO GIVE YOU MY VIEW ON POPULATION AND IMPACT ON REDISTRICTING.

SINCE 2010, HAYS COUNTY ADDED 70,000 PEOPLE.

OF THOSE 30,000 OR 40 ,000 LIVE ALONG I-95 AND INCLUDE SAN MARCUS, KYLE AND BUDA.

40,000 AND 60% LIVE ON EITHER SIDE OF I-35 CORRIDOR.

70,000 IS A LOT OF NEW PEOPLE AND A GROWING AND POSSIBLE SET OF NEEDS. POPULATION CHANGE AND WHERE VOTER RESIDE ALONE CALLS FOR A REFOCUSING OF YOUR ATTENTION.

WHEN I LOOK AT YOUR PLAN FOR REDISTRICTING, I DO NOT BELIEVE IT REPRESENTS PEOPLE. YOU ARE LOOKING TO A LAW FIRM TO DO THE JOB NO OR LIMITED AT BEST PLANS OF INCLUDING PUBLIC INPUT AND HAVE SAID YOU DO NOT WANT TO REDISTRICTING TO EFFECT INCUMBENCY. NOT AFFECTING INCUMBENCY IS LIKE SAYING YOU WANT TO FORM A DISTRICT THAT INCLUDES 60,000 PEOPLE CENTERED AROUND YOUR HOUSE.

THAT IS NOT MUCH OF A PLAN. HAYS LEAGUE MEMBERS ARE WORKING

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WHEN THE COMMUNITY OF INTEREST IS IDENTIFIED AND NEEDS ARE HIGHLIGHTED THROUGH THE PUBLIC INTEREST.

SEVERAL LEAGUE MEMBERS HAVE BEEN TRAINED ON MAPPING BASED ON THE INPUT FROM COMMUNITIES OF INTEREST.

ADDING COMMUNITIES OF INTEREST INPUT TO THE PROCESS FOCUSES ON THE GREATEST NUMBER OF NEEDS YOU POSSIBLE.

SOME OF THE IDEAS ARE POSSIBLE. STRAPTION A COUNTYWIDE ISSUE MORE THAN JUST ROADS. IMPORTANT TO DIFFERENTIATE COMMUTER NEEDS OF LOCAL NEEDS. THANK YOU.

>> JUDGE BECERRA: HOW MUCH TIME DO YOU NEED TO FINISH.

>> ABOUT ANOTHER MINUTE. MAKE IT AS SHORT AS YOU CAN.

>> AND FASTEST GROWING PART OF THE COUNTY IS OUTSIDE THE CITIES. EMS SHOULD BE EQUALLY AVAILABLE ACROSS THE COUNTY. BROADBAND IS NECESSARY.

WATER IS CRITICAL TO EVERYONE AND OBTAIN IN RADIALLY DIFFERENT WAYS. PLANS TO ABILITY OF WATER NEEDS TO BE MORE BROADLY BASED AND FUTURE NEEDS AND SOURCES MUST BE ADDRESSED. DEALING WITH FLOODING DEALS WITH WHERE YOU LIVE IN THE COUNTY.

>> JUDGE BECERRA: THANK YOU, MR. CALVERT.

APPRECIATE YOU WRAPPING UP. SECOND SPEAKER SIGNING UP IS DR. LINDA CALVERT. PLEASE APPROACH THE PODIUM AND WE WILL START THE THREE-MINUTE TIMER.

THE REASON I GAVE YOU -- IT IS CUSTOMARY FOR ME TO -- I DON'T LIKE TO SHUT PEOPLE UP. I WANT TO GIVE PEOPLE THE OPPORTUNITY BUT STAY WITHIN THE BOUNDARIES AND RESPECT OTHER PEOPLE'S TIME AND SPACE, BUT OTHERS HAVE GONE OVER SO I W WANTED TO EXTENDS THE SAME COURTESY TO YOU.

THANK YOU. >> GOOD MORNING, AGAIN.

LINDA CALVERT SPEAKING FOR THE REDISTRICTING COMMITTEE OF THE LEAGUE. WHAT I WANT TO DO IS ADDRESS THE SPECIFICS OF THE IDEA OF HAVING A CITIZENS ADVISORY COMMITTEE. WE -- OUR COMMISSION THAT YOU ARE CALLING IT, WE STRONGLY SUPPORT IT.

AND CERTAINLY THINK THAT IS A WAY TO INCREASE TRANSPARENCY AND CITIZEN INPUT. ONE OF THE CONCERNS THAT WE HAVE IS YOUR TIME LINE. SO WHEN WE ARE WORKING, WE DON'T FIGURE WE HAVE ANY TIME TO WASTE GETTING ON WITH MAPPING AND GATHERING DATA AND THAT SORT OF THING.

AS IT IS RIGHT NOW, YOU HAVE UNTIL THE END OF JUNE, JULY, AUGUST, SEPTEMBER. IN THAT TIME IT IS DATA GATHERING. LOOKING, TALKING TO COMMUNITIES OF INTEREST. IT'S FORMING MAPS.

IT IS PRESENTING THE MAPS TO THE PUBLIC ASSUMING AN IDEAL PROCESS AND THIS ISN'T REAL IDEAL.

IT IS ONE THAT IS KIND OF IMPORTANT TO FOLLOW.

SO FOR PUBLIC INPUT, PUBLIC COMMENT, YOU HAVE GOT A VERY SHORT TIMELINE HERE. AND WHAT WE ARE USING WITHIN THE LEAGUE ROUTE IS DISTRICTER, WHICH IS A MAPPING TOOL, WHICH ALSO HAS FOCUSES ON THE VOTING RIGHTS ACT.

SO WE CAN DO BOTH. WE CAN LOOK AT THE HAYS COUNTY COMMUNITIES AND DO SOME MAP DRAWING THAT FITS ALL OF THIS POPULATION CHANGE WHILE AT THE SAME TIME LOOKING AT THE VOTER RIGHTS ACT. WE URGE TO YOU THINK OF THE TIMELINE THAT WE ARE THINKING ABOUT AND FOLLOW CAREFULLY THE COMPLIANCE ISSUES AROUND THE VOTING RIGHTS ACT AND OTHER CONSTRAINTS OF THE DISTRICTING PROCESS AGAIN, THANK YOU.

I AM LISTENING WHAT YOU ARE DOING THIS MORNING AND I AM AWARE OFF THIS A LOT ON YOUR PLATE AND THIS ONE IS CRITICAL AND OFF VERY SHORT TIME. WE WILL BE MOVING ON WITH OUR PROCESS AND THANK YOU JUDGE THANK YOU, DR. CALVERT.

WITH THAT, I WOULD LIKE TO SAY I AM GRATEFUL FOR THE LEAGUE TO BE NONPARTISAN. WHEN I ASK COMMISSIONER SHELL

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NO WAY AROUND IT. HE AND I BOTH AGREED THAT THE PARTY CHAIRS WILL HELP -- NOT JUST TO CREATE DIVISION, BUT WE AS A COUNTY MUST AS A PEOPLE REMEMBER THAT WE ARE HERE AS CITIZENS OF HAYS COUNTY AND WE MUST DO EVERYTHING WE CAN TO WORK TOGETHER. WE DON'T HAVE TO AGREE ON EACH OTHER, IF WE DID WE WOULD BE CLONES.

A BASELINE. A CIVIL LEVEL OF SINCERITY AROUND OUR FOUNDATION OF OUR COUNTRY FOR CRYING OUT LOUD FOR LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL COMMISSIONER SHELL AND I MET OF CREATING THE TWO PARTY SHARES AS KEY GROUP OF THE EFFORT SPECIFICALLY TO HELP CALL BALLS AND STRIKES, IF NOTHING ELSE TO SHOW TO THE REST OF THE PARTIES THEY REPRESENT THAT THERE IS SOMEONE AT THE TABLE, THE ROUND TABLE, NO HEAD OF THE TABLE IN THAT INSTANCE TO MAKE SURE THERE IS AN EVEN HAND THAT THE RIGHT THING IS BEING DONE NOT TIPPING THE SCLES FOR ONE PARTY OR ANOTHER. THAT IS THE SINCEREST EFFORT.

WITH THAT SINCERE EFFORT WE WENT AROUND WITH THE CONVERSATION OF APPOINTING THE TWO SPOTS IS, MY APPOINTMENT.

I HAVE -- SINCE YOU HAVE THESE CONVERSATIONS AND REACHED OUT TO ME SPECIFICALLY, I WANT YOU AS WELL AS THE COMMUNITY WATCHING TO KNOW THAT WHEN YOU SPEAK, I LISTEN.

I'M HERE AS YOUR REPRESENTATIVE.

I AM THE ONLY COUNTYWIDE REPRESENTATIVE, AND SO I HAVE AN UNIQUE RESPONSIBILITY TO CAPTURE THE RURAL, THE URBAN, ALL THE VARIABLES, THE ENTIRE HUE, MY WHOLE SPECTRUM AND STRONGEST AND SINCERE EFFORT. BECAUSE THIS IS THE STRONG AND SEVERE EFFORT, I WILL SHIFT MY ORIGINAL APPOINTMENT TO ONE OF YOUR OWN TO THE LEAGUE AND ONE OF MY APPOINTMENTS IS SHANNON FITZPATRICK FOR THIS BODY AND SHE IS A FORMER PROSECUTOR.

I KNOW SHE IS LEVEL HEADED. I KNOW SHE IS OF THE PEOPLE FOR THE PEOPLE. I KNOW SHE IS EVERYTHING IN MY HEART IS WHAT WE NEED OUT OF THIS COMMISSION.

THAT IS WHY I BROUGHT IT FORTH. SO I WILL -- AS LONG AS SHE ACCEPTS, I WILL APPOINT SHANNON FITZPATRICK AS MY APPOINTMENT.

SHE NODDED YES. COMMISSIONER INGALSBE.

>> DEBBIE INGALSBE: YES, SIR. >> JUDGE BECERRA: YOUR

APPOINTMENTS. >> DO WE KNOW WHAT THE STRUCTURE -- I TOLD THE PEOPLE I WOULDN'T ASK ANYONE TO COMMIT UNTIL WE TELL THEM EXACTLY WHAT IT IS WE ARE PLANNING TO DO.

IS THAT SOMETHING WE CAN MAKE TALK -- MAYBE TALK ABOUT NOW WHAT THE PROCESS WOULD LOOK LIKE?

>> JUDGE BECERRA: SURE. IN THE PROCESS, THE THINGS YOU AND I SPOKE ABOUT, COMMISSIONER, IS THE WAY I FEEL IT IS MOST USEFUL -- I AM USING THE POSAC WE CREATED AS TEMPLATE AND GUIDELINES FOR US TO CREATE THE SIGNPOSTS AND LET THEM DO THE -- THE ARTICULATION OF WHEN TO MEET NO LESS THAN, CREATE SOME CEILINGS AND SOME FLOORS.

DON'T MEET LESS THAN THIS. AND DON'T MEET MORE THAN THIS AND I REALLY LIKE YOUR SUGGESTION, COMMISSIONER, ON THESE ARE THE INDIVIDUALS THAT WILL BE CHARGED WITH ON A SMALL GROUP OR SMALL ENVIRONMENT TO MEET WITH OUR MAP MAKER AND BE USEFUL OF THE TIME OF GENERAL COUNSEL TO STAY WITHIN THE LEGAL BOUNDARIES THAT WE HIRED TO OVERSEE THIS PROCESS.

I BELIEVE THAT -- THAT THOSE -- THOSE KEY COMPONENTS ARE VERY USEFUL, BUT I DON'T HAVE A -- AN ARTICULATION FURTHER THAN THAT PERSONALLY, BUT I AM HAPPY TO HEAR WHAT YOU THINK,

COMMISSIONER. >> I JUST WANT TO SEE WHAT THE COURT'S DIRECTION IS. HOW MANY MEMBERS.

HOW IT WILL WORK. THOSE WHO COMMUNICATE WITH GIS INTERNAL, WHO THAT WILL BE. I THINK THAT IS ONE OF THE CONCERN OF GIS TO MAKE SURE CLEAR DIRECTION WHO WILL BE THE INDIVIDUALS REPRESENTING EITHER THE COURT OR THIS ADVISORY COMMISSION IN VISITING WITH GIS AND HAVING MAPS CREATED.

I ENVISION THAT WE WILL HAVE SOME WORKSHOPS IN THE COMMISSIONERS COURT LIKE WE HAD IN THE PAST WHERE ANYONE IS WELCOME TO BRING MAPS WHERE THEY ARE GENERATED VIA THE COUNTY AND ANY OTHER ORGANIZATION AND PUBLIC DISCUSSION OPPORTUNITIES FOR THE PUBLIC TO SEE THE DIFFERENT OPTIONS, ASK QUESTIONS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

I CAN SEE THAT THIS IS NOT JUST THE COUNTY PRODUCING POTENTIAL MAPS AND WITH AN IDEA AND SAY HAS THIS BEEN CONSIDERED.

THAT WE PUT SOME SORT OF PARAMETERS AROUND THE INTERNAL

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JOB. >> JUDGE BECERRA: WHAT I WILL DO, COMMISSIONER, I WILL ASK EACH COMMISSIONER WHAT -- ONE BY ONE, ARIZONA BROAD A STROKE AS POSSIBLE IF YOU SAY WHAT YOU WANT TO MAKE SURE THIS COMMISSION IS CHARGED WITH TO MAKE YOU SATISFIED THAT -- THAT THIS COMMISSION WILL HAVE SOME PARAMETERS AND NOT HAMSTRUNG. COMMISSIONER INGALSBE, WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE THIS COMMISSION TO DO? IS THERE A BULLET ITEM YOU WOULD WANT TO ENSURE IS THERE?

>> DEBBIE INGALSBE: WELL CERTAINLY WE WANT TO MAKE THESE MEETINGS PUBLIC, CORRECT? I MEAN -- WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY IS -- UNDERSTANDS THE PROCESS, SEES WHAT EVERYBODY IS DOING. IT IS BEST THAT WE TRY NOT TO BE SILOED AND THAT CAUSES ISSUE IN THE LONG RUN, AND I THINK WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT IT IS OPEN.

DO WE KNOW -- HAVE WE TALKED ABOUT WHERE THESE MEETINGS ARE GOING TO BE HELD. DO WE GO AROUND THE COUNTY? WE HAVE DONE THAT IN THE PAST. WE HAVE GONE TO EACH PRECINCT IN THE COUNTY, AND, YOU KNOW, THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT I THOUGHT ABOUT. IS IT GOING TO BE -- SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD WANT TO DO IS GO OUT IN EACH PRECINCT AND HOLD MEETINGS THAT WAY FOLKS FROM ALL OVER THE COUNTY CAN PARTICIPATE. AND SO THAT MAY BE SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO START LOOKING INTO WHAT VENUE WE CAN USE.

SCHOOLS ARE WILLING TO LET US PARTICIPATE AND USE THEIR

FACILITIES, AND SO -- >> JUDGE BECERRA: WONDERFUL SUGGESTIONS, COMMISSIONERS. HAVING -- ENSURING THAT THE MEETINGS ARE PUBLIC THROUGH THE GENERAL UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT PUBLIC MEANS, CITIZENS COMMENTS, MINUTES TAKEN, I THINK THAT IS BEAUTIFUL. MEETINGS AT EACH PRECINCT, PREFERABLY AT A SCHOOL FOR COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT ADDI

ADDITIONALLY WONDERFUL. >> DEBBIE INGALSBE: I THINK THERE HAS TO BE SOME CONTROL ALSO BECAUSE COMMITTEE DOES NEED WORK AND FOCUS ON THAT WOK WORK AND NOT HAVE PEOPLE JUST INTERRUPTING ALL THE TIME AND SOMEHOW WE NEED TO BALANCE ALL OF THAT. SO THAT IS KIND OF WHAT I WAS THINKING, JUDGE, TO MAKE SURE WE REACH ALL AREAS OF OUR COUNTY, THAT PEOPLE ARE ABLE TO PARTICIPATE.

>> THAT IS BEAUTIFUL. SUCH A SMART, SMART IDEA.

I KNOW WE HAVE GONE BACK AND FORTH WITH ONE APPOINTEE, COMMISSIONER SHELL. I AM HAPPY TO PUT TWO.

I AM PREPARED TO ADD ANOTHER NAME, BECAUSE IT IS JUST -- WE CAN EASILY REPLACE SOMEONE IF THEY -- BECAUSE LIFE HAPPENS.

WE LEARNED THIS THROUGH COVID. IF SOMEONE IS NO LONGER INTERESTED IN ABLE THAT WE HAVE APPOINTED TODAY, WELL THEN, WE CAN MAKE A NEW APPOINTMENT OF OUR SPECIFIC REPRESENTATION.

BUT I AM TOTALLY COOL WITH ONE AND THAT IS WHAT WE ARE SLATED FOR AND IF SOMEONE FEELS NECESSARY TO MAKE IT TWO, WE CAN HAVE THAT CONVERSATION AS WELL.

>> I AM COMFORTABLE WITH THE TWO RIGHT NOW -- SORRY, ONE.

>> JUDGE BECERRA: YOU LIKE WITH ONE.

I AM OKAY WITH ONE. COMMISSIONER SHELL, YOU ARE OKAY WITH ONE. COMMISSIONER SMITH, ARE YOU OKAY WITH ONE APPOINTEE? WE WILL COME BACK -- COMMISSIONER INGALSBE, OKAY WITH ONE APPOINTEE?

INGALSBE THAINGZ IS FINE. >> JUDGE BECERRA: COMMI

COMMISSIONER, YOUR BULLETS. >> I KNOW IF WE DON'T PUT CONTROLS STEVE'S TIME -- I WOULD LIKE FOR THE COMMITTEE TO WORK THROUGH COMMISSIONER SHELL AND KAMALA INGALSBE AND SO THEY

CAN COME BACK. >> FOR COMMISSIONERS TO WORK WITH THE STAFF AND WORK WITH STEVE.

I AM ENVISIONS TWO PARTY CHAIRS TO BE CO-CHAIRS OF THE COMMISSION AND THEY TALK TO COMMISSIONER SHELL AND COMMISSIONER INGALSBE AND HAVE THEM GO TALK TO GIS.

>> I WANT TO. AND NOT COMMISSIONERS BUT THE PARTY CHAIRS. SAME IDEA.

>> I DON'T CARE HOT TWO PEOPLE ARE.

>> JUDGE BECERRA: CONTROL ACCESS TO GIS.

THANK YOU. GOT IT.

THANK YOU, SIR. AND COMMISSIONER SMITH,

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I THE MEANTIME, COMMISSIONER SHELL, QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS,

DID WE MISS ANY? >> LON SHELL: IF I CAN GO DOWN THE LIST AND IF THERE IS A DIFFERENT OPINION, LET US KNOW.

ONE PER COURT MEMBER. MEETINGS TO BE HELD, ROTATED IN THE PRECINCTS TO MAKE SURE THERE IS A MEETING IN EACH PRECINCT. I AM ASSUMING THE BEST -- THAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN WITH SOME DISCUSSION NOT JUST INTRODUCTORY MEETING. IT WILL BE PROBABLY THE FAIREST WAY AND PRECINCT TWO MEETING WHERE WE CHECK THE BOX AND SAY PRECINCT TWO AND TAKE THE MAPS TO PRECINCT FOUR.

IF WE WANT PUBLIC INVOLVEMENT, THERE NEEDS TO BE SOMETHING FOR THE PUBLIC NOT JUST TO DISCUSS GENERALLY.

AND LOOK AT PROPOSED BOUN BOUNDARIES.

>> PUBLIC MEETINGS, MAYBE NOT JUST LOOK AT PRECINCT -- BECAUSE PRECINCT ONE AND TWO SHARE A LOT AND MAY EACH NEED

TO HAVE A MEETING. >> MAY JUST DO A GENERAL

POPULATION CENTER. >> MAKE SURE WE -- HIGH GROWTH AREAS. AT LEAST RURAL.

>> EVEN IF IT IS CITY, YOU K KNOW.

>> CITY. ALL AREA.

THINGS LIKE THAT. BALANCE AND SIMILAR IN DISCUSSION TOPICS THAT IT IS NOT.

WE JUST DON'T HAVE ONE AND SAY WE WENT THERE AND NOTHING WAS ACTUALLY CONCRETE IN THAT TYPE OF DISCUSSION.

SO THAT WOULD BE MY ASK THAT THOSE MEETINGS THAT ROTATE ARE DONE WHEN THERE IS SOMETHING TO SHOW AS WELL AS DISCUSS.

>> JUDGE BECERRA: MAYBE GEOGRAPHICAL.

>> DEBBIE INGALSBE: I AGREE WITH THAT COMMISSIONER.

WHEN WE WENT TO DIFFERENT LOCATIONS WE HAD MAPS TO SHOW

AND THEY WERE GOOD MEETINGS. >> LON SHELL: THE CO-SHARES WILL BE THE ONES THAT WILL BE ABLE TO MEET WITH STEVE.

AND I THINK WE HAVE A TIMELINE. WEEKLY WAS THE MAX ONCE A WEEK.

IF THEY RECEIVED INPUT FROM PUBLIC OR ANYTHING ELSE THEY WILL HAVE AN APPOINTMENT, A STANDING APPOINTMENT TO GO DO THAT. AND IS THERE ANY OTHER ISSUES

ANYBODY -- >> JUDGE BECERRA: I THINK --

IN MY NOTES WE COVERED THEM. >> DEBBIE INGALSBE: AGAIN I AM GOING TO ASK -- MARK, LAST TIME YOU ANSWERED THE LAST TIME I ASKED THE QUESTION OF THE REDISTRICTING ATTORNEYS, THE FIRM WE HIRED. WE HAULS A FIRM THAT WE USE FOR REDISTRICTING TO ENSURE THAT WE COMPLY WITH THE VOTING RIGHTS ACT AND OTHER ASPECTS OF REDISTRICTING.

SO, YOU KNOW, THEY HAD DONE THAT WORK FOR MANY YEARS.

THE LAW FIRMS WE HAVE PREVIOUSLY USED SO IT IS IMPORTANT TO HAVE THEM ON BOARD BUT WHEN DO WE ENVISION THEM PARTICIPATING OR MAYBE NOT IN SOME OF THESE MEETINGS.

>> I DON'T THINK THAT THEY WILL PARTICIPATE ON A DAY-TO-DAY LEVEL AND THEY HAVE NOT BEEN RETAINED TO DO SO.

THAT WILL BE A DIFFERENT ARRANGEMENTS ALL TOGETHER WITH

THAT FIRM. >> THEY DID INDICATE THAT THEY WOULD BE WILLING TO -- EAGER AND WILLING TO INTERACT WITH THE ADVISORY COMMISSION -- REDISTRICTING ADVISORY COMMISSION. AND WOULD LIKE TO MAKE IT MORE EFFECTIVE BY PERHAPS STARTING IT OFF AS A WORKSHOP IN THE FALL AFTER WE HAVE DEMOGRAPHIC DATA COMING OUT.

WORKSHOP IN THE FALL THAT WILL BE WORKSHOP HERE WITH THE COMMISSION AND MEMBERS PRESENT AND THE COURT PRESENT SO THAT THEY CAN ANSWER ALL QUESTIONS ASKED AT ONE TIME.

AND PROVIDE INFORMATION TO EVERYBODY WHO IS A STAKEHOLDER IN THIS. AND SO THAT IS HOW THEY WOULD START IT, AND THEY ANTICIPATED THAT THEY WOULD NEED TO CHECK BACK IN SOME CAPACITY WITH BOTH SUBMISSION AND COURT.

>> JUDGE BECERRA: I SEE COMMISSIONER SMITH HAS JOINED US. YOUR COMMENTS ON THINGS WOULD YOU LIKE TO SEE OR JOIN US IN THIS BODY GOING TO DO THE

REDISTRICTING CONVERSATION. >> WALT SMITH: JUST ONE BIT OF CLARIFICATION AND I WANTED TO TRY TO -- I KNOW THAT WE HAD HAD CONVERSATIONS TO ONE OR TWO MEMBERS -- SORRY I DROPPED OFF

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>> JUDGE BECERRA: YES, SIR. WE ALL SETTLED ON ONE.

WE AGREE THAT ONE IS A GOOD FIT AND IN A MOMENT WHEN YOU ARE DNE WITH YOUR COMMENTS TO TELL US YOUR APPOINTMENT.

AND WE ALSO DISCUSSED HOW COVID HAS TAUGHT US IF NOTHING ELSE THAT LIFE CHANGES ON -- ON A MOMENT'S NOTICE.

AND SO IF THAT APPOINTMENT IS NO LONGER ABLE TO OR INTE INTERESTED, THEN WE CAN FREELY APPOINT A REPLACEMENT.

>> WALT SMITH: SO THE OVERALL MEMBERSHIP OF THE COMMISSION WOULD BE THE TWO PARTY CHAIRS AND ONE APPOINTEE PER

COMMISSIONER OR COURT MEMBER? >> JUDGE BECERRA: CORRECT.

SMITH THAT WAS MY ONLY CONCERN BECAUSE AS COMMISSIONER INGALSBE TALKED LAST WEEK I SPOKEN TO TWO AND I MADE THAT CLARIFICATION LAST WEEK. SO I AM HAPPY -- AS LONG AS THERE IS AN UNDERSTANDING THAT THIS COMMISSION WILL WORK IN AN ADVISORY ROLE. AT THE END OF THE DAY US TO MAKE THE DECISION THAT WE WERE SELECTED TO MAKE -- ELECTED TO MAKE AND TAKING THEIR RECOMMENDATION UNDER ADVISEMENT IS ONE THING, BUT IN THE END WE HAVE TO MAKE THE DECISION

RELATIVE TO THIS. >> JUDGE BECERRA: ABSOLUTELY, COMMISSIONER. NO USURPING OUR AUTHORITY, RESPONSIBILITY AND DUTY. MERELY A SUGGESTION AND THE COURT WILL BE THE FINAL VOICE. WELL SAID.

IF YOU -- IF YOU HAVE THE MIC, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK YOUR

VOLUNTEER'S NAME. >> STEVE MEYER.

>> JUDGE -- SPELL THAT JUST BECAUSE WE HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF A WONKY CONNECTION. SMITH S-T-E-V-E, MEYER, M-E

M-E-Y-E-R. >> JUDGE BECERRA: COMMISSIONER

SHELL. >> LON SHELL: I WILL BRING MY NEXT WEEK AND I WANT THEM TO KNOW WHAT IT IS.

>> JUDGE BECERRA: WITH THAT I WANT TO MAKE SURE IF THE COURT IS OKAY THAT WE CAN STILL MOVE THIS ON.

>> LON SHELL: THAT IS FINE. I WILL BRING IT BACK WEEK FOR SURE. I WANT THE FINAL APPROVAL.

I DIDN'T WANT ANYONE TO COMMIT TO SOMETHING THAT THEY WERE NOT

SURE WHAT IT IS. >> JUDGE BECERRA: MY HOPE IS -- I HATE TO BRING ENTIRE GROUPS BACK TOGETHER OVER -- AND BRING THIS TO A CLOSE AND YOUR NAME TO BE ADDED TO THE LIST IF THAT OKAY? AWESOME.

THANK YOU, COMMISSIONERS. >> I HAVE A COUPLE MORE QUESTIONS. MARK, WHEN COMMISSIONER INGALSBE ASKING ABOUT OUR ATTORNEY'S ROLE? BASICALLY TO MAKE SURE WE ARE FOLLOWING THE LAW.

THEY ARE NOT DIRECTING US ANY SORT OF WAY OTHER THAN IN

COMPLIANCE? >> THAT'S CORRECT.

WE ALREADY PROVIDED THEM WITH 2010 DATA MAPS AND CURRENT PRECINCT LINES, ETC. THEY ALREADY HAVE BEEN DOING SOME ANALYSIS, BUT WE ARE REALLY HAVING TO WAIT FOR THE FINAL DATA TO COME OUT BEFORE ANYTHING CAN BE DONE.

>> THE OTHER THING I WOULD SEE IF THE COLLEAGUES WOULD HAVE THIS COMMITTEE LOOK AT JP AND CONSTABLE LINES.

>> JUDGE BECERRA: YES. YES.

WE TALKED ABOUT THAT AND COMMISSIONER SHELL AND I TALKED ABOUT INVITING. IN ONE OF THE MEETINGS INVITING THE JPS AND HAVING THEIR FEEDBACK AND INVITING THE C CONSTABLES A GET THEIR FEE FEEDBACK.

>> INCLUDING COMMISSIONER SHELL AND COMMISSIONER INGALSBE ON

THIS COMMITTEE. >> JUDGE BECERRA: NO.

NO COURT MEMBER. >> MY APPOINTEE WILL BE JOHN

AMBROSE. >> JUDGE BECERRA: COMMISSIONER

INGALSBE. >> DEBBIE INGALSBE: I AM GOING TO APPOINT REUBEN GAZA, THE REASON I WANTED TO APPOINT HIM, JUDGE, AND JUST SHARE, BECAUSE HE SERVED ON A PREVIOUS REDISTRICTING COMMITTEE IN 2 2000, AND I BELIEVE HAS KNOWLEDGE OF THE PROCESS. AND WOULD BE HELPFUL.

NOW HE HAS HAD SOME HEALTH ISSUES AND SO I DID TALK -- HE ACTUALLY CALLED ME. BUT IF HE DETERMINES THAT HE CANNOT, THEN I WILL -- VANESSA WESTBROOK IS MY SECOND CHOICE.

>> JUDGE BECERRA: PERFECT. THANK YOU.

WELL, THE FORMATION OF THIS COMMISSION HAS TAKEN PLACE.

WE WILL WRAP IT UP WITH A VOTE. IF YOU WILL PLEASE -- YES, SIR?

>> SORRY, JUDGE, BEFORE YOU CALL THE VOTE.

WHEN COMMISSIONER SHELL BRINGS HIS APPOINTMENT BACK NEXT WEEK IF IT IS OKAY WITH THE COURT, I WILL BRING DRAFT CHARTER.

WE DISCUSSED IT THE LAST TIME WE HAD THIS ITEM ON AND WHAT I WILL TRY DO TAKING NOTES ON WHAT YOU WANT.

WE PROBABLY NEED MORE PROCEDURAL DETAIL ON THE

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AND YOU CAN ALL MODIFY IF NEEDED.

>> JUDGE BECERRA: I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IF WE CAN CALL ROLL FOR THE FORMATION OF THIS COMMISSION.

>> LON SHELL: YES. >> DEBBIE INGALSBE: YES.

>> MARK JONES: YES. >> WALT SMITH: YES.

>> JUDGE BECERRA: YES. THANK YOU, LEE FOR YOUR LEAGUE FOR YOUR PRESENCE. I SEE THE AUDIENCE AND I APPRECIATE YOU HERE. I THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING HERE AND DOING YOUR VERY BEST TO BE LEVEL HEADED AND EVENHANDED.

THANK YOU AGAIN. PLEASE OPEN AGENDA ITEMS 1-10

[Items 1 - 10]

TWO, APPROVE THE PAYMENTS OF UNITED HEALTHCARE CLAIMS. THREE, APPROVE COMMISSIONERS COURT MINUTES OF JUNE 1, 2021.

FOUR, APROOF THE OFFICIAL BOND OF THE NEWLY APPOINTED HAYS COUNTY COURT OF LAW NUMBER 3 JUDGE DANIEL O'BRIEN.

FIVE, AUTHORIZE PAYMENT OF $ $962.50 TO AMG FOR THE ELE ELECTION'S OFFICE RELATED TO PREVIOUS ELECTION EXPENSES IN WHICH NO PURCHASE ORDER WAS ISSUED AS REQUIRED PER COUNTY PURCHASING POLICY. SIX, APPROVE THE APPOINTMENT OF JIM HOLLIS TO THE BOARD OF EMERGENCY SERVICES DISTRICT NUMBER 8 TO REPLACE MITCH JOHNSON ON EMERGENCY SERVICES DISTRICT NUMBER 8 FOR A TERM ENDING DECEMBER 31, 2021.

7, AUTHORIZE PAYMENT TO KONE FOR GOVERNMENT CENTER ELEVATOR REPAIRS IN THE AMOUNT OF $ $574.15 IN WHICH NO PURCHASE ORDER WAS ISSUED AS REQUIRED BY HAYS COUNTY PURCHASING POLICY.

EIGHT, AUTHORIZE PAYMENT TO FRED PRYOR SEMINARS IN THE AMOUNT OF $796 FOR FOUR RENEWAL SUBSCRIPTIONS FOR HUMAN RESOURCES DEPARTMENT EMPLOYEES AS NO PURCHASE ORDER WAS ISSUED AS REQUIRED BY THE COUNTY PURCHASING POLICY.

NINE, EXPECT THE FISCAL YEAR 2020 HAYS COUNTY EMERGENCY SERVICES DISTRICT NUMBER 5 AUDIT REPORT PER TEXAS HEALTH AND SAFETY CODE 775.082. TEN, RATIFY THE ACCEPTANCE OF TWO CUSTOM DOOR MATS VALUED AT $806 TO THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE PUBLIC SAFETY BUILDING AND AMEND THE BUDGET ACCORDINGLY.

>> DEBBIE INGALSBE: SO MOVED. >> SECOND.

>> JUDGE BECERRA: ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 6, I HAVE A QUESTION FOR MR. KENNEDY. TAKE A MINUTE TO TUNE IN THAT THAT. BOARD OF EMERGENCY SERVICES DISTRICT. MY QUESTION TO YOU IS, I HAVE HAD -- IN THIS WHOLE CAPACITY OF THE EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT AND COVID FOR THE PAST YEAR, I HAVE HAD A STRONG APPRECIATION FOR WHAT OUR FIRST RESPONDERS DO MORE THAN EVER IN ESDS, EMERGENCY SERVICES DISTRICT, HAVE A KEY ROLE WHAT TAKES PLACE IN OUR COUNTY'S RESPONSE AS A UNIT AND SO I AM UNDER THE IMPRESSION, I HAVE BEEN LED TO BELIEVE THAT WE ARE IN A PLACE WHERE THESE POSITIONS INSTEAD OF APPOINTED BY THIS COURT SHOULD BE ELECTED POSITIONS. CAN YOU SPEAK ON THAT FOR ME?

WHAT THE TRIGGER IS? >> THE -- THE CHANGE WOULD HAVE TO BE LEGISLATIVE AND I AM NOT AWARE -- I -- I CAN GO DO THE RESEARCH ON WHAT ACTION THERE WAS THIS LAST SESSION.

I DIDN'T HEAR OF ANY THIS LAST SESSION, BUT IT DIDN'T MEAN IT DIDN'T HAPPEN. I DON'T BELIEVE ANYTHING IN THAT REGARD PASSED. THIS IS GUIDED BY THE -- BY THE CHAPTER 775. AND IT DICTATES THAT RIGHT AROUND THE NEW YEAR EVERY TWO YEARS, WE REAPPOINT -- IN THIS CASE, THIS IS COMMISSIONER ON THE DISTRICT THAT VERY SIGNED AND STEPPED DOWN IN SOME CAPACITY.

WE ARE REPLACING. >> JUDGE BECERRA: STILL A COURT APPOINTMENT AND STATE LEGISLATIVE TRIGGER TO TURN THESE POSITIONS INTO ELECTED POSITIONS, IS THAT A PRETTY

GOOD RECAP? >> YEAH, I CAN -- I CAN LOOK IT UP IN THE CODE AND GIVE YOU THE EXACT SECTION.

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>> JUDGE BECERRA: IT WAS SHARED WITH ME AND TELL THOSE WHO MENTIONED IT THAT I LI LISTENED AND I FOLLOWED UP.

THAT IS WHAT THIS QUESTION IS ABOUT.

IF YOU CAN E-MAIL ME -- WHENEVER -- THE ADDITIONAL INFORMATION IF ANYTHING EVO EVOLVED.

>> JUDGE, WE HAVE ONE ESD DISTRICT THAT HAS VOTED ON THIS JUDSON TRAIL. THE REST ARE APPOINTED.

>> I HAVE IT COMMISSIONER. IT'S SECTION 775.034 OF THE

TEXAS HEALTH AND SAFETY CODE. >> JUDGE BECERRA: THANK YOU,

SIR. >> JUDGE, WANT TO TAKE A MOMENT TO THANK MITCH JOHNSON ON THAT EMERGENCY SERVICES DISTRICT FOR OVER TEN BEFORE THAT WAS HAYS COUNTY DEPUTY AND HE AND HIS FAMILY HAVE TO LEAVE THE BUDA AREA.

AND HE HAS DONE A GREAT JOB ON THAT BOARD AND SERVING HAYS COUNTY. YOU RECOGNIZE THE NAME JIM HOLLIS. HE STEPPED DOWN AFTER 28 YEARS ON ESD AND HE GOT WORRIED AND I GOT HIM BACK FROM ESD 8.

>> IT IS TRUE, COMMISSIONERS. THE ESD DON'T RUN THEMSELVES AND COMMUNITY OF VOLUNTEERS THAT SIT ON THE BOARD, THEY ARE PRICELESS. I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR DOING THIS. AND WHAT YOU DO IS TRULY PRICELESS, AND WE BENEFIT GREATLY FROM YOUR SERVICE AND YOUR TIME. THANK YOU.

PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. .> MS. C

>> MS. CARDENAS: COMMISSIONER INGALSBE.

YES. >> MARK JONES: YES.

>> WALT SMITH: YES. >> LON SHELL: YES.

>> JUDGE BECERRA: YES. PLEASE OPEN 11-17.

[Items 11 - 17]

>> MS. CARDENAS: 11, AUTHORIZE THE ACCEPTANCE OF A GRANT AWARD IN THE AM OF $100,000 FROM THE SAINT DAVID FOUNDATION COVID-19 RECOVERY FUND FOR VACCINE DISTRIBUTION AND ADMINISTRATION SUPPORT AND AMEND THE BUDGET ACCORDINGLY.

12, AUTHORIZE THE COMMISSIONER PRECINCT 1 OFFICE TO SUPPORT THE HAYS CARES SHOES OF HOPE EVENT RELATED TO SHOE DISTRIBUTION INITIATIVE FOR HAYS COUNTY CHILDREN OPINION 13 , AUTHORIZE THE INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY DEPARTMENT TO PURCHASE 25 NETWORK ACCESS POINTS FOR WI-FI CONNECTIVITY FOR THE NEW JAIL EXPANSION AND AMEND THE BUDGET ACCORDINGLY.

14, APPROVAL -- APPROVE RENEWAL OF IFB 2020-B 06 R ROADWAY STRIPING WITH DIJ CONSTRUCTION, INC. FOR ONE ADDITIONAL YEAR AS -- STATED IN THE ORIGINAL BID EFFECTIVE JUNE 1, 2021. 15, AUTHORIZE THE EXECUTION OF A RENEWAL LETTER AGREEMENT WITH THE COMMUNITY SUPERVISION AND CORRECTIONS DEPARTMENT RELATED TO THE FY 2022 VETERANS' SERVICES VETERANS' TREATMENT COURT GRANT FOR ADULT PROBATION SERVICES. 16, APPROVE SPECIFICATION FOR IFB 2021-B 11 ROAD IMPRO IMPROVEMENTS, REMOVE AND REPLACE HOT MIX AND AUTHORIZE PURCHASING TO SOLICIT FOR PROPOSALS AND TO ADVERTISE. 17, AUTHORIZE THE EXECUTION FOR A GRANT AGREEMENT WITH THE TEXAS WATER DEVELOPMENT BOARD FLOOD INFRASTRUCTURE FUND FOR THE ONION CREEK WATERSHED ST

STUDY. >> SO MOVED.

>> SECOND. >> WE HAVE TWO MOTIONS AND TWO SECTS. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONERS.

I GENUINELY APPRECIATE IT. RATHER HAVE IT TWICE THAN NONAT ALL. NO COMMENTS, CALL THE ROLL.

>> MARK JONES: YES. >> WALT SMITH: YES.

>> LON SHELL: YES. >> DEBBIE INGALSBE: YES.

>> JUDGE BECERRA: YES. PLEASE EACH NUMBER 18.

[18. Approve renewal of IFB 2020-B10 Metal Beam Guard Fence (MBGF) Materials with Texas Corrugators. BECERRA/BORCHERDING]

>> MS. CARDENAS: 18, APPROVE RENEWAL OF IFB 2020-B 10 METAL BEAM GUARD FENCE MATERIALS WITH TEXAS CORRUGATORS.

>> SO MOVED. >> SECOND.

>> JUDGE BECERRA: WE HAVE ONE PERSON SIGNED UP TO SPEAK.

MR. DAN LYON. >> THANK YOU, JUDGE BECERRA AND COMMISSIONERS PRESENT AND VIRTUAL, COMMISSIONER SMITH.

I WOULD DIRECT YOU TO PAGE 145 OF THE BACKUP, ATTACHMENT AIFB 2020, B-10 PEDESTRIAN METAL BEAM GUARD FENCE MATERIALS BID FORM. AND I COULD READ THE REST OF THIS. IF YOU WANTED ME TOO, BUT FOR TIME SAKE, LET ME JUST DIRECT YOU TO B 10.1 THROUGH B 10.15.

IT SAYS TX DOT ITEM 5450 METAL BEAM GUARD FENCE, MGBF, THAT IS

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IT'S 25 FOOT OF METAL BEAM ACCORDING TO THIS AND I GUESS THE BEAM -- ANYWAY, BID PRICE PER UNIT.

LET'S SAY 156. PROPOSED PRICE CHANGES 357.

THAT IS QUITE A JUMP IN PRICE. I NOTICE SOME OTHER PRICES HAVE JUMPED, AND I DON'T KNOW IF THEY CAN'T GET THEM ANY CHEAPER THAN THAT. AND I AM NOT SAYING THEY ARE DOING ANYTHING WRONG ON RAISING THE PRICES, BUT WOULD LIKE Y'ALL TO LOOK AT THAT BECAUSE QUITE A PRICE JUMP AND APPARENTLY WE ARE ORDERING 75 OF THESE UNITS.

ANYWAY, THAT IS ALL I GOT TO SAY.

THANK YOU. >> JUDGE BECERRA: THANK YOU, WILL LYON, MR. BORCHERDING, IF YOU APPROACH THE PODIUM AND SHED LIGHT ON THE AGENDA ITEM WHETHER THE VIEWING PUBLIC SEES YOU OR NOT, YOU ARE HERE BORCHERDING BORCHERDING THANK YOU, JUDGE. I DON'T HAVE A IF YOU WILL BACKUP. I AM NOT SURE IF WE ARE TALKING OF A MISPRINT OR ACTUAL NOMENCLATURE, BUT THIS IS THE S PECS FOR THESE COMPONENTS ARE TAKEN DIRECTLY OUT OF THE TXDOT MATERIAL MANUAL AND I DON'T THINK THERE IS ANY ISSUE AT

HAND TO TELL YOU THE TRUTH. >> JUDGE BECERRA: MR. KENNEDY, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO -- ANYTHING TO CONTRIBUTE?

>> I WOULD SPECULATE THAT THE PERSON WHO DRAFTED THAT WAS HUNGRY WHEN THEY DRAFTED IT. BUT --

>> JUDGE BECERRA: WHAT DOES THAT MEAN?

>> ANYWAY, I THINK THAT -- A SCRIVENER'S ERROR LIKE THAT, AS LONG AS IT IS PROVIDING SUFFICIENT NOTICE OF THE PUBLIC OF THE TRANSACTION AND THE AMOUNT OF THE TRANSACTION, IT WOULD BE SUFFICIENT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH IT.

IF YOU FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH THAT YOU CAN SAY SO AND WE CAN

ALWAYS REPOST. >> JUDGE BECERRA: THANK YOU, MR. KENNEDY. NO OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS.

COMMISSIONERS? PLASE CALL THE ROLL.

>> WALT SMITH: YES. >> LON SHELL: YES.

>> MARK JONES: YES. >> DEBBIE INGALSBE: YES.

>> JUDGE BECERRA: YES. >> PLEASE OPEN AGENDA ITEM

[19. Authorize the Office of Emergency Services to accept a Proposal from Water & Earth Technologies, Inc. (WET) related to repairs on the Low Water Crossing pressure transducer at Post Road and the Blanco River and authorize a discretionary exemption pursuant to Texas Local Government Code 262.024(a)(7). SMITH/MIKE JONES]

NUMBER 19. >> AUTHORIZE THE OFFICE OF EMERGENCY SERVICES TO ACCEPT A PROPOSAL FROM WATER AND EARTH TECHNOLOGY, INC. RELATED TO REPAIRS ON THE LOW WATER CROSSING PRESSURE TRENDS AT POST ROAD IN THE BLANCO RIVER AND AUTHORIZE THE DISCRETIONARY EXEMPTION PURSUANT TO TEXAS LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE 262.04 A 7.

>> SO MOVED. >> SECOND.

>> COMMISSIONER. >> THANK YOU, JUDGE.

THE PRESSURE OF TRANSDUCER QUIT ON THE EVENING OF JUNE 3 WHEN WE HAD THE WATER EVENT THAT NIGHT AND PART OF OUR OVERALL COUNTYWIDE SYSTEM AND WE NEED FOR IT TO BE REPAIRED TO HAVE IT ADEQUATE AND PART OF THAT SYSTEM.

>> JUDGE BECERRA: VERY GOOD. COMMISSIONERS, ANY COMMENTS? QUESTIONS? PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

>> LON SHELL: YES. >> DEBBIE INGALSBE: YES.

>> MARK JONES: YES. >> WALT SMITH: YES.

>> JUDGE BECERRA: YES. ON ROADS, PLEASE OPEN NUMBER

[20. Discussion and possible action to authorize the County Judge to execute Change Order No. 2 in the amount of $278,838.42 to the Construction Contract between Hays County and Jordan Foster Construction, LLC for the Dacy Lane (IFB-2021-B02) project as part of the Hays County Road Bond Program. JONES/INGALSBE/BORCHERDING]

20. >> 20, DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO AUTHORIZE THE COUNTY JUDGE TO EXECUTE CHANGE ORDER NUMBER 2 IN THE AMOUNT OF $ $278,838.42 TO THE CONSTRUCTION CONTRACT BETWEEN HAYS COUNTY AND JORDAN FOSTER CONSTRUCTION LCC FOR THE DACY LANE, IFB-2021-B 02 PROJECT AS PART OF THE HAYS COUNTY ROAD BOND PROGRAM.

>> SO MOVED. >> SECOND.

>> JUDGE BECERRA: A MOTION AND SECOND.

COMMISSIONER? >> I BELIEVE THIS IS A INCREASE IN 2% CONSTRUCTION AND HAD TO DO WITH LOIS LANE.

>> GEO GRID -- >> STRICTLY ADDING GEO GRID TO THE PAYMENT STRUCTURE FOR BOTH LOIS LANE AND DACY.

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>> DEBBIE INGALSBE: JERRY, THE ONLY THING I WOULD SAY THAT WE WATCH AND LIMIT CHANGE ORDERS AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.

>> YES, I UNDERSTAND. >> JUDGE BECERRA: THANK YOU.

PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. >> LON SHELL: YES.

>> DEBBIE INGALSBE: YES. >> WALT SMITH: YES.

>> MARK JONES: YES. >> JUDGE BECERRA: YES.

[21. Discussion and possible action to authorize the County Judge to execute Contract Amendment No. 1 in the amount of $188,000 to the Professional Services Agreement between Hays County and RPS Infrastructure, Inc. for the FM 621 Safety Improvements project as part of the Hays County Road Bond Program; and authorize a discretionary exemption pursuant to Texas Local Government Code Ch. 262.024(a)(4). INGALSBE/BORCHERDING]

OPEN 21. >> MS. CARDENAS: DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO AUTHORIZE THE COUNTY JUDGE TO EXECUTE CONTRACT AMENDMENT NUMBER 1 IN THE AMOUNT OF $ $188,000 TOO THE PROFESSIONAL SERVICES AGREEMENT BETWEEN HAYS COUNTY AND RPS INFRAS INFRASTRUCTURE,INC. FOR THE FM 621 SAFETY IMPROVEMENTS PROJECT AS PART OF THE HAYS COUNTY ROAD BOND PROGRAM AND AUTHORIZE THE DISCRETIONARY EXEMPTION PURSUANT TO TEXAS LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE CHAPTER 262.024

A 4. >> SO MOVED.

>> SECOND. >> COMMISSIONER INGALSBE? INGALSBE THINGZ WILL ALLOW US TO SEPARATE THE ENTIRE PROJECT INTO TWO SEGMENTS. WE ARE JUST ABOUT RIGHT SIDE TO GO ON ONE SECOND DEGREEABILITY OF THAT PROJECT.

THE OTHER ONE WILL TAKE A LITTLE MORE TIME BECAUSE OF RIGHT-OF-WAY ISSUES, I BEL BELIEVE, SO IT WILL GET THE ADVERTISING FOR CONSTRUCTION AND BID PACKAGES TOGETHER AND THEN ANOTHER PART OF THE SERVICES WILL BE THE CONSTRUCTION PHASED SERVICES. IT IS AN IMPORTANT PROJECT AND I KNOW THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE IN THE SUBDIVISION OF HILLS OF HAYS ARE EXCITED OF THE IMPROVEMENT.

A LOT OF ACCIDENTS AT THAT INTERSECTION OF THE ENTRANCE OF THEIR SUBDIVISION AND WE ARE LOOKING FORWARD TO GETTING

STARTED. >> JUDGE BECERRA: VERY WELL SAID. THANK YOU, MA'AM.

IF NO OTHER COMMENTS, CALL THE ROLL.

>> MARK JONES: YES. >> DEBBIE INGALSBE: YES.

>> LON SHELL: YES. >> WALT SMITH: YES.

>> JUDGE BECERRA: YES. PLEASE OPEN NUMBER 22.

[22. Hold a public hearing with possible action to establish a "No Parking" zone in front of the park gate & driveway on Edgewater Drive along the Blanco River. SHELL/BORCHERDING]

>> 22, HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING WITH POSSIBLE ACTION TO ESTABLISH A "NO PARKING"ZONE IN FRONT OF THE PARK GATE AND DRIVEWAY ON EDGEWATER DRIVE ALONG THE BLANCO RIVER.

>> SO MOVED. >> SECOND.

>> JUDGE BECERRA: AT THIS POINT IN TIME HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING. SOMEONE TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS EVENING ITEM, PLEASE APPROACH THE PODIUM.

CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. COMMISSIONER SHELL SHELL SNELZ BACK-UP A RELATIVELY SMALL "NO PARKING ZONE." PART OF A ACCESS AND GATE OF A RIVER -- AND THEY WERE HAVING PROBLEMS PEOPLE BLOCK THE ACCESS AN LOCATION OF THE SIGNS

IN BACKUP. >> JUDGE BECERRA: THANK YOU, SIR. IF NO OTHER COMMENTS, I WILL

ASK TO CALL THE VOTE. >> WALT SMITH: YES.

>> MARK JONES: YES. >> LON SHELL: YES.

>> DEBBIE INGALSBE: YES. >> JUDGE BECERRA: YES.

AND DR. CARDENAS, WILL YOU PLEASE OPEN AGENDA ITEM NUMBER

[23. Hold a public hearing with possible action to establish a "No Parking" zone on Sunrise Drive in Sunrise Acres subdivision in the western ROW north of Sunrise Circle. INGALSBE/BORCHERDING]

23. >> MS. CARDENAS: 23, HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING WITH POSSIBLE ACTION TO ESTABLISH A "NO PARKING"ZONE ON SUNRISE DRIVE IN SUN RISE ACRES SUBDIVISION IN THE WESTERN ROW NORTH OF SUNRISE CIRCLE.

>> DEBBIE INGALSBE: SO MOVED. >> SECOND.

>> JUDGE BECERRA: IF SOMEONE IS HERE TO SPEAK ON THIS AGENDA ITEM, PLEASE APPROACH THE PODIUM.

SEEING NO SIGNIFICANT MOVEMENT, I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEA HEARING.

COMMISSIONER? >> DEBBIE INGALSBE: THANK YOU, JUDGE. IN BACK-UP THERE IS A PICTURE, JUDGE, OF THE AREA WE ARE HAVING CONCERNS WITH.

THERE ARE 18-WHEELERS PARKING IN THIS AREA AND CAUSING SOME ISSUES AND HEAPING TO ESTABLISH THE NO PARKING ZONE.

>> WITH THE TWO BACK-TO-BACK NO PARKING ZONES IN THE SPACES, WILL YOU FIRST HAVE DEPUTIES PATROLLING AND PUTTING NOTIFICATION OR WILL THEY GO STRAIGHT TO TICKET SOMETHING IN

WHAT IS YOUR INTENT AND HOPE? >> DEBBIE INGALSBE: I DON'T KNOW, JUDGE. I THINK SOMETIMES LAW ENFORCEMENT WILL GO OUT AND ISSUE WARNINGS.

>> JUDGE BECERRA: EDUCATION. GOOD, GOOD, IT IS WHAT I WAS

HOPING TO HEAR. >> MOST OF THE INCIDENTS OF THE ONE IN THE WIMBERLY AREA A CALL MADE BY A NEIGHBOR IS GOING TO INSTIGATE AND PROBABLY WON'T GO LOOKING FOR IT.

AND THEN THE OFFICER WOULD LEAVE A WARNING AND SEE THE INDIVIDUAL AND A NO PARKING AREA.

>> JUDGE BECERRA: I LOVE THE IDEA OF GIVING FOLKS A WARNING, EDUCATING ON UPDATES AND CREATE MORE PEACE AND UNITY IN THE COMMUNITY AND AT LEAST THEY WILL KNOW.

AND IF THERE IS A WAY TO DOCUMENT THESE, GO AND ISSUE

[01:35:05]

THANK YOU, COMMISSIONERS. PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

>> MARK JONES: YES. >> LON SHELL: YES.

>> DEBBIE INGALSBE: YES. >> WALT SMITH: YES.

>> JUDGE BECERRA: YES. OPEN NUMBER 24.

[24. Discussion and possible action to accept Letter of Credit No. 20214330 for street and drainage improvements for 6 Creeks Phase 1 Section 4A in the amount of $362,008.18. SMITH/BORCHERDING]

>> MS. CARDENAS: 24, DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO ACCEPT LETTER OF CREDIT NUMBER 20214330 FOR STREET AND DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENTS FOR 6 CREEKS PHASE 1, SECTION 4 A IN

THE AMOUNT OF $362,008.18. >> SO MOVED.

>> SECOND. >> JUDGE BECERRA: A MOTION AND A SECOND AND RINGING PHONE IN THE COURT.

HAVE WE CLEARED THAT UP? GOOD.

COMMISSIONER? >> THANK YOU, JUDGE.

THIS IS A STANDARD AGREEMENT. THE NEXT PHASE OF 6 CREEKS.

I ANTICIPATE WE WILL HAVE SEVERAL MORE BEFORE THEY END IN

CONSTRUCTION. >> OKAY.

ANY COMMENTS, COMMISSIONERS? THANK YOU, SIR, FOR THAT UP UPDATE. DR. CARDENAS, PLEASE CALL THE

ROLL. >> DEBBIE INGALSBE: YES.

>> MARK JONES: YES. >> LON SHELL: YES.

>> WALT SMITH: YES. >> JUDGE BECERRA: YES.

PLEASE OPEN NUMBER 25. >> MS. CARDENAS: 25,

[25. Discussion and possible action to approve the selection of the team of CP&Y and KFriese & Associates to provide preliminary engineering services including but not limited to Exploration and Coalition Building, Corridor Study, and National Environmental Policy Act compliance investigations related to a proposed extension of SH45 Southwest from FM 1626 to IH35 and authorize staff and counsel to negotiate a contract. JONES/BORCHERDING]

>> SO MOVED. >> SECOND.

>> JUDGE BECERRA: I HEARD THAT INFLECTION.

I LOVE IT.

COMMISSIONER. >> MARK JONES: JUST A L LONG-AWAITED PROJECT EVER SINCE WE FINISHED IH 35.

THE FIRST STEP IN CONNECTING THAT.

AND TWO FIRMS IN THAT AREA AND LOOKING FORWARD TO GETTING THIS STARTED. WE HOPE IT GET A SET OF PLANS TO HELP MOVE FORWARD OUT OF THIS.

AND WE WILL ALSO BE LOOKING AT SOME OF OUR PARTNERS TO JOIN IN ON THIS PROJECT TO MAKE IT EVEN A STRONGER PROJECT.

>> WHEN YOU SAY PARTNERS, WILL YOU EXPAND.

>> MUNICIPALITIES AND BUDA WANT TO BE A PART OF THIS.

>> JUDGE BECERRA: HALLELUJAH, PRAISE THE LORD, I LOVE IT.

THANK YOU. NOT A MINUTE TOO SOON.

>> MARK JONES: YOU SAID IT. >> DEBBIE INGALSBE: YES.

>> LON SHELL: YES. >> MARK JONES: YES.

>> WALT SMITH: YES. >> JUDGE BECERRA: YES.

[26. PLN-1679-PC; Call for a Public Hearing on July 13th, 2021 to discuss approval of the final plat of the Rolling Oaks, Section 1, Lot 6, Replat. SHELL/MACHACEK]

>> MS. CARDENAS: 26, PLN PLN-1679-PC, CALL A PUBLIC HEARING ON JULY 13, 2021 TO DISCUSS APPROVAL OF THE FINAL PLAT OF THE ROLLING OAKS SECTION 1, LOT 6 REPLAT.

>> SO MOVED. >> SECOND.

>> JUDGE BECERRA: MOTION AND SECOND.

COMMISSIONER SHELL. IS COLBY OR --

>> CALL FOR A PUBLIC HEARING REPLAT WITH LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE CHAPTER FOR PUBLIC NOTICE REQUIREMENTS.

ON JULY 13, WE WILL CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE REPLAT AND HAVE A -- DECISION ON THE FINAL APPROVAL.

>> JUDGE BECERRA: NOTIF NOTIFICATIONS HAVE BEEN SENT

OUT. >> THE NOTIFICATION HAVE BEEN SENT OUT THROUGH CERTIFIED MAIL AND STANDARD MAIL.

>> WE HAVE BEEN DOING AT THE SAME TIME AS WE HAVE IN THE PAST. IF SOMEONE DOESN'T GO RECEIVE AND PICK UP THE CERTIFIED MAIL THEY WILL HAVE AN UNCERTIFIED

SECTION IN OUR MAILBOX. >> YES, SINCE TIME IS ON OUR SIDE GIVE FOLKS MORE TIME THAN RUNNING DOWN THE WIRE AND GIVING THEM PLENTY OF TIME WITH NOTIFICATION.

COMMISSIONER SHELL, ANY OTHER COMMENTS.

PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. >> MARK JONES: YES.

>> WALT SMITH: YES. >> LON SHELL: YES.

>> DEBBIE INGALSBE: YES. AND.

>> JUDGE BECERRA: YES. PLEASE OPEN AGENDA ITEM NUMBER

[27. PLN-1674-PC; Call for a Public Hearing on July 13th, 2021 to discuss approval of the final plat of the Carol Oaks, Lot 14, Replat. SMITH/MACHACEK]

27. >> 27, PLN-1674-PC, CALL FOR A PUBLIC HEARING ON JULY 13 , 2021, TO DISCUSS APPROVAL OF THE FINAL PLAT OF THE CAROL OAKS LOT 14 REPLAT.

>> SO MOVED. >> SECOND.

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>> JUDGE BECERRA: A MOTION AND A SECOND AND A REPEAT OF THE PREVIOUS. IF YOU WERE OKAY WITH THAT,

PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. >> LON SHELL: YES.

>> MARK JONES: YES. >> DEBBIE INGALSBE: YES.

>> WALT SMITH: YES. >> JUDGE BECERRA: YES.

IF MY SCRIBBLES ARE CORRECT, I THINK WE ARE UP TO AGENDA ITEM

[31. Discussion and possible action to authorize renewal of the Hays County Property and Mobile Equipment liability coverage for plan year 2021 - 2022 at a premium renewal rate of $218,619. BECERRA/MILLER]

>> 31, DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO AUTHORIZE RENEWAL OF THE HAYS COUNTY PROPERTY AND MOBILE EQUIPMENT LIABILITY COVERAGE TO PLAN YEAR 2021-2022 AT A PREMIUM RENEWAL RATE OF

$218,619. >> SO MOVED.

>> SECOND. >> JUDGE BECERRA: A MOTION AND A SECOND. MISS MILLER IF NECESSARY IS MERE FOR COMMENTS. COMMISSIONERS, ANY COMMENTS? WOULD YOU LIKE TO HAVE MISS MILLER APPROACH.

YES, COME UP. I WAS WAITING FOR A NOD OR A CUE. THANK YOU FOR BEING SO PATIENT.

I REALLY APPRECIATE YOU BEING HERE.

>> THANK YOU, COURT. SHERRY MILLER HR DIRECTOR.

AND LISA, RISK MANAGEMENT CONSULTANT.

I DID GET THAT RIGHT? LISA IS HERE WITH US.

WE WORKED WITH LISA OVER OF THE YEARS IN ANALYZING AND RENEWING OUR PROPERTY AND MOBILE EQUIPMENT INSURANCE.

AND WE HAVE ALL THESE BEAUTIFUL COUNTY BUILDINGS AND PROPERTIES THAT WE ARE REQUIRED TO ENSURE. SO THIS IS JUST OUR ANNUAL RENEWAL. AND IF -- IF I AM OPEN TO ANY QUESTIONS, LISA WAS ABLE TO COME AND JOIN US TODAY.

THANKFUL TO GET BACK INTO THE -- BACK OUT TO THE COUNTIES, AND WE APPRECIATE HER ASSISTANCE IN REVIEWING THE LIST OF PROPERTIES WHICH INCLUDES SOME OF OUR NEWEST BUILDINGS, OUR NEW JAIL, AND THE PSB BUILDING.

>> JUDGE BECERRA: THANK YOU. I HAVE SEEN LISA IN OUR MEETINGS AROUND THE STATE AND I AM HAPPY TO SEE YOU HERE IN OUR OWN HAYS COUNTY AS I LEARN ON AS A COUNTY JUDGE FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS, 254 COUNTIES IN THE STATE AND 254 DIFFERENT WAYS OF

WHICH TO RUN A COUNTY. >> THAT IS EXACTLY RIGHT.

>> JUDGE BECERRA: THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU TO DO HELP CREATE A UNIFIED COHESIVENESS OVERALL FOR THE STATE AS THAT PERSPECTIVE UNFOLDS. I WILL SAY, SHERRY, THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THIS TO COURT TODAY.

I AM WORK INVESTIGATE CLOSELY WITH THE SIGHTS AND SOUNDS LEADERSHIP. IT IS A VERY BIG DEAL IN THE COUNTY SEAT AND MY HOPE IS NOT TO BE OUTDONE BY PLACES LIKE JOHNSON CITY AND EVERYWHERE ELSE WITH THE LIGHTING OF THEIR COURT. HOUSE.

AND SO I HAVE A SINCERE DESIRE TO HAVE THE COURTHOUSE GROUNDS WITH LED BEING EFFICIENT AND WITH OUR SIR CUTLERY IN PLACE, ETC. TO BE AN EXTENSION, TO HAVE THE COURT HOUSE TO BE AND THE EXTENSION OF THE BEAUTIFUL SITES AND SOUNDS THAT THE CITY OF SAN MARCOS DOES SO EXCEPTIONALLY WELL WITH MANY PARTNERSHIPS. SO I WOULD LIKE TO JUST LET YOU KNOW THAT I AM SINCERELY INTERESTED IN HAVING AS THE SIGHTS AND SOUNDS LEADERSHIP CONVEY IT TO ME SAID IT THIS WAY, EVERY TIP OF THE BEAUTIFUL TREES ILLUMINATED INCH-BY-INCH AND I THINK A BEAUTIFUL END PRODUCT.

AND IN THIS PROCESS, I WOULD LIKE FOR YOU TO KNOW MY SINCEREST HOPE IS TO HAVE THE COURTHOUSE SQUARE OUR TOWN SQUARE REALLY MATCH THE SIGHTS AND SOUNDS OF THE CITY PARK EFFORT. IF THAT NEEDS ANY CONSIDERATION IN THE INSURANCE SPACE, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO LET YOU KNOW HERE AND NOW THAT THAT IS DIRECTLY IN MY HORIZON.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH.

AND SORRY FOR THAT LONG-WINDED APPRECIATION AND UPDATE.

>> WE APPRECIATE YOU BEING PART OF THE MANAGEMENT POOL.

GOOD TO SEE YOU ALL. >> JUDGE BECERRA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. COMMENTS, COMMISSIONERS? GOOD. LOOK THAT THE.

EFFORTLESS. THANK YOU AGAIN.

DR. CARDENAS, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

>> WALT SMITH: YES. >> LON SHELL: YES.

>> MARK JONES: YES. >> DEBBIE INGALSBE: YES.

>> JUDGE BECERRA: YES. PLEASE OPEN AGENDA ITEM NUMBER

[32. Discussion and possible action to execute a Countywide Elevator Maintenance & Repair Services Contract with Otis Elevator Company pursuant to RFP 2021-P01. BECERRA/T.CRUMLEY]

32. >> MS. CARDENAS: 32, DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO EXECUTE A COUNTYIDE ELEVATOR MAINTENANCE AND REPAIR SERVICE CONTRACT WITH OTIS ELEVATOR COMPANY PURSUANT TO R FP 2021-P 01.

>> SO MOVED. >> SECOND.

>> JUDGE BECERRA: A MOTION AND A SECOND AND THIS IS NOT OTIS SPUNKMEYER, NOT THE COOKIE M MAKERS THESE ARE THE ELEVATOR

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>> COMMISSIONER INGALSBE: YES. >> LON SHELL: YES.

>> WALT SMITH: YES. >> JUDGE BECERRA: AWED SCREEN

FREEZE. >> MARK JONES: YES.

>> JUDGE BECERRA: YES. PLEASE OPEN NUMBER 33.

[33. Discussion and possible action to establish one (1) new Environmental Health Specialist I position (grade 111) effective July 1, 2021. SHELL/PACHECO]

THANK YOU. >> MS. CARDENAS: 33, DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO ESTABLISH ONE NEW ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH SPECIALIST I POSITION GRADE 111 EFFECTIVE

JULY 1, 2021. >> SO MOVED.

>> SECOND. >> JUDGE BECERRA: A MOTION AND A SECOND AND A MUCH NEEDED M MOVE.

THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER SHELL FOR SPONSORING THIS.

WOULD YOU LIKE EXPAND. >> LON SHELL: MOST COURT MEMBERS HAVE SEEN THE RAPID GROWTH AND PUTTING QUITE A BIT OF STRESS ON OUR STAFF. I THINK THEY ARE DOING AN OUTSTANDING JOB KEEPING UP WITH THINGS BUT WE ARE COGNIZNT OF NEED FOR SOME HELP. ALSO THE CITY OF WHICH WE A AREALLY IS CONSIDERING ASKING US TAKE OVER OSSF IN THEIR JURISDICTION. IF THAT IS THE CASE PUT MORE WORK ON OUR STAFF AND MAKE SURE THEY ARE PREPARED AND -- THERE WILL OBVIOUSLY BE FEES AND REVENUE ASSOCIATED WITH THIS TO OFFSET THIS AND WELL ABOVE LAST YEAR'S BUDGETING AS WELL.

AND NOW IS THE TIME. I THINK NORMALLY WE WILL HAVE TO WAIT FOR BUDGET YEAR AND A FEW MONTHS AWAY FROM THAT, AND I THINK THE -- THE STRESS THAT IS BEING PUT ON OUR STAFF TRYING KEEP UP WITH THIS AMAZING GROWTH AND WE NEED TO ADDRESS IT NOW TO KEEP OUR GOOD EMPLOYEES.

>> JUDGE BECERRA: THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER.

AND I WOULD LIKE TO SAY I AGREE WHOLEHEARTEDLY.

BI. I UNDERSTAND THE ROAD MAP.

THE SUNSHINE IS FOR EVERYONE. GOOD GREAT MOVE.

>> HOW SOON CAN YOU GET THEM ON BOARD?

>> JULY 1. >> YES, SIR, COMMISSIONER.

IF THE POSITION IS EFFECTIVE JULY 1.

WE WILL BE FINAL POST IT JULY 1 AND GET THE APPLICATIONS.

>> JUDGE BECERRA: MAYBE POST IT SOONER AND THEN CLOSE IT ON JULY 1. DR. CARDENAS.

>> MARK JONES: YES, >> DEBBIE INGALSBE: YES.

>> LON SHELL: YES. >> WALT SMITH: YES.

>> JUDGE BECERRA: YES. WE WILL TAKE SHORT RECESS.

TEN MINUTES.

>> WE ARE BACK FROM A SHORT RECESS AND JUST IN TIME FOR

[39. 11am- Workshop to finalize the Hays County Film Guidelines and possible action to approve the Guidelines, which is the first step to becoming Film Friendly Certified. BECERRA/COLLINS]

>> MS. CARDENAS: 11 A.M. WORKSHOP TO FINALIZE THE HAYS COUNTY FILM GUIDELINES AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO APPROVE THE GUIDELINES WHICH IS THE FIRST STEP TO BECOME FILM FRIENDLY

CERTIFIED. >> SO MOVED.

>> SECOND. >> JUDGE BECERRA: THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER. WE DON'T NEED FOR THAT BUT THAT IS PERFECT. I REALLY APPRECIATE IT.

AND WE HAVE -- STATE YOUR NAME AND TITLE.

>> ANITA COLLINS OFFICE OF THE HAYS COUNTY JUDGE AND KIM LEBLANC FROM THE TEXAS FILM COMMISSION ON THE LINE.

>> JUDGE BECERRA: MOST LIKELY. IF YOU JUST KEEP GOING.

>> A SUMMARY HERE. THE PAST SEVERAL MONTHS WORKING WITH MARK KENNEDY TO DRAFT T TIMELINE FOR FILM AND TELEVISION PRODUCTION THAT WISH TO FILM IN HAYS COUNTY.

THE FIRST STEP OF RECEIVING A FILM FRIENDLY CERTIFICATION OF THE GOVERNOR'S OFFICE OF THE TEXAS FILM COMMISSION.

A FEW COMMUNITIES THAT DO NOT HAVE STAFF TO ASSIST DUNKS COMPANIES AND BENEFIT FROM THE GUIDELINES AND TRAINING FROM THE FILM FRIENDLY WORKSHOPS. MANY CITIES LIKE BUDA, DRIPPING SPRINGS, KYLE, SAN MARCOS AND WIMBERLY HAVE BEEN DESIGNATED FILM FRIENDLY BY THE GOVERNOR'S TEXAS FILM COMMISSION.

FILM FRIENDLY WILL HAVE POTENTIAL ECONOMIC IMPACT AND JOB CREATION FOR HAYS COUNTY. WHEN A FILM OR TELEVISION PRODUCTION COMES INTO THE COUNTY THEY OFTEN BRING MONEY FOR LODGING, CATERING, BUILDING SUPPLIES AND MAY HIRE LOCALS FOR CAST AND CREW. LET'S SEE, THESE GUIDELINES WILL ALSO SERVE TO PROTECT THE PERSONAL AND PROPERTY RIGHTS OF COUNTY RESIDENTS AND BUSINESSES AND PROMOTES PUBLIC HEALTH, SAFETY AND WELL THEIR HAYS COUNTY.

ON THURSDAY I SENT THE COURT A RED LINE VERSION THAT MARK KENNEDY AND I DRAFTED USING A TEMPLATE BY THE TEXAS FILM COMMISSION. I AM SURE YOU HAD A CHANCE TO REVIEW IT AND A CLEAN VERSION ATTACHED TO THE AGENDA.

KIM WILL HE BLANK FROM THE TEXAS FILM COMMISSION IS HERE

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>> JUDGE BECERRA: KIM, WE SEE YOU.

THANK YOU FOR CHIMING IN. >> THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME.

>> JUDGE BECERRA: SINCE YOU ARE HERE.

I ALWAYS LIKE TO GIVE FOLKS THE FLOOR FOR A MOMENT FOR F NOTHING ELSE TO TAKE TIME TO BE PART OF OUR COURT TODAY.

ANYTHING WOULD YOU LIKE TO SAY? >> OH, WELL, JUST THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME AND THANK YOU FOR THE WORK THAT HAYS COUNTY IS DOING TO COMPLETE CERTIFICATION OR OUR FILM TEXAS PROGRAM AT THE COUNTY LEVEL. WE APPRECIATE THE PROACTIVE EFFORT AND WE KNOW OUR INDUSTRIES HAVE HAD A -- YOU KNOW, A REALLY IMPACTFUL PRESENCE IN HAYS COUNTY FOR A LONG TIME AND LOOKING FORWARD FOR ANYONE WHO AND OFFICE COMMISSION BEEN AROUND FOR 1917 AND THE ANNIVERSARY AND OFFICE THIS YEAR. AND ONE OF THE MANY WAYS THAT WE CAN PROMOTE TEXAS AS A MEDIA IS FILM FRIENDLY TEXAS PROGRAM THAT I HAD THE PRIVILEGE OF ADMINISTERING AND WE CURRENTLY HAVE 159 COMMUNITIES ACROSS THE STATE INCLUDING THE VAST MAJORITY OF HAYS COUNTY COMMUNITIES THAT ARE ALREADY PARTICIPATING THE PROGRAM AND THE PROGRAM IS GROWING AND I AM REALLY HAPPY TO BE HERE JOINING THE COMMISSIONERS COURT MEETING A APPRECIATE YOUR TIME, JUDGE, AND ANITA COLLINS AND HER ENTHUSIASM AND EFFORTS TO SP SPEARHEAD THIS INITIATIVE AND REALLY WORKING COLLABORATIVELY WORKING WITH OUR OFFICE FOR MANY YEARS AND AS A SUPPORTER OF THE INDUSTRY.

AND I AM REALLY HERE AS AN INFORMATIONAL RESOURCE AND TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AND ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS OF FILMING GUIDELINES AS YOU WORK TO FINALIZE THOSE.

>> JUDGE BECERRA: GENUINELY APPRECIATE THAT RECAP AND THE GOVERNOR'S OFFICE HAS DONE WELL PLACING YOUR COMMISSION AND WHAT FILMING IS AND WHAT HAYS COUNTY WILL TO DO FUEL TOURISM DOLLARS AND ECONOMIC ENGINE THAT WE ALL COMMUNICATE ON AS A WHOLE. THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU DO, KIM.

GENUINELY GRATEFUL FOR YOU TUNING IN.

ANY QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS, COMMISSIONERS?

COMMISSIONER, WE ARE GOOD. >> NO, THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THIS IS WONDERFUL.

AND IF THERE ARE NO COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS, AT THIS POINT,

PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. >> WHOA, WHOA.

I GOT SOME -- I DO HAVE SOME COMMENTS ON THE ACTUAL PROPOSED LANGUAGE THAT WAS SENT OUT. WE HAD SOME CONVERSATIONS EARLIER IN COURT RELATIVE TO THE NOTIFICATION PROCESS FOR THE COMMISSIONERS, THE SIGN-UP PROCESS FOR THE COMMISSIONERS AND PRETTY DIRECT AND CLEAR DIRECTION TO BOTH THE FIRE MARSHAL AND TO YOUR OFFICE RELATIVE TO -- I CAN TELL THAT YOU MY PRECINCT AND PROBABLY COMMISSIONER SHELL'S PRECINCT HAVE MORE FILMING GOING ON THAN ANY OTHER.

[INAUDIBLE] -- REDIRECT AND PROBLEMATIC INFRACTIONS WITH THEIR RESIDENTS THERE WHERE WE HAVEN'T HAD NOTIFICATION, WE HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO SECURE SOME OF THE BACKGROUND WORK INFORMATION RELATIVE TO THE FILMING, FOR THE CLOSING DOWN OF PUBLIC ROADWAYS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. NOWHERE IN THAT PROCESS -- [INAUDIBLE] -- DIRECT -- AND THE DOCUMENTATION. THERE IS NO DIRECT INTERACTION FROM INDIVIDUAL COMMISSIONERS FOR THAT PRECINCT AND WANT TO SEE THAT AS PART OF WHATEVER PROCESS WE MOVE FORWARD WITH BECAUSE AT THE END. DAY, THOSE DENTS.

I KNOW WE HAVE A VERY DIRECT PROCESS IN OUR PRECINCT HOW WE HANDLED THIS IN THE PAST AND I THINK THE DOCUMENT THAT WE HAVE COULD NIGHT THAT AND THERE HAS TO BE SOME PORTION WHERE THERE IS DIRECT INPUT FROM THE COMMISSIONER ON THAT PROCESS.

>> COMMISSIONER SHELL IS GOING TO SPEAK NEXT, COMMISSIONER SMITH. AWED FEW MOMENTS WHERE YOU FROZE, BUT I THINK I WILL RECAP THIS AND YOU CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG. YOUR INTENT IS TO ENSURE THAT THE COMMISSIONERS FROM THE PRECINCT WHERE FILMING WILL TAKE PLACE ARE NOT LEFT OUT IN ANY WAY OF THE PROCESS.

AND I BELIEVE THAT HAS BEEN ADDRESSED.

SO IS THAT WHAT YOU WERE SUMMARIZING IN TO MAKE SURE YOU

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>> WALT SMITH: CORRECT. AND LOOKING AT -- AT THE DOCUMENT. I AM GOING TO REVIEW IT AGAIN HERE AS WE ARE SITTING HERE, BUT I BELIEVE AS YOU LOOK AT THAT DOCUMENT, IT -- EVERYTHING IS RUN DIRECTLY THROUGH THE COUNTY JUDGE'S OFFICE. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE IS A SIGN OFF FROM THE INDIVIDUAL XHUING

COMMISSIONER'S OFFICE. >> NOTHING WRONG WITH THAT.

TOTALLY PERFECT. I HAVE MASS GATHERING HEARINGS THAT I DO OF THAT I FEEL GRATEFUL TO SAY THAT WILL START TO POPULATE NOW THAT WE ARE GETTING FURTHER AND FURTHER AWAY FROM COVID. SO THE MORE.

THE MORE PEOPLE SEE THINGS THE MORE INFORMED IT WILL BE AND A GREAT SUGGESTION, COMMISSIONER AND MAKE SURE THAT THE FINISHED PRODUCT HAS A SIGN UP FROM THE PRECINCT, ABSOLUTELY FROM THE COMMISSIONERS FROM THE PRE PRECINCT.

>> THANKS, JUDGE. I WAS GOING TO POINT OUT QUESTION WAS ANSWERED BETWEEN MISS COLLINS AND THE GENERAL COUNSEL'S OFFICE. THEY WERE PLANNING TO PUT A SIGN-OFF SHEET AS KIND OF THE LAST PAGE.

I KNOW ONE OF THE QUESTIONS IN THERE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE IDENTIFIED THOSE THAT WILL NEED TO SIGN OFF.

AND I THINK THAT IS THE FINAL STEP THAT WE NEED TO TAKE TO TAKE CARE OF COMMISSIONER SM SMITH'S CONCERNS AS WELL AND FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, I THINK THE TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT OBVIOUSLY PROBABLY THE CONSTABLE'S OFFICE IN THAT AREA, THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE, THE FIRE MARSHAL'S OFFICE AND ANYTHING ELSE, BUT I THINK WE CAN JUST DO WHAT IS PROPOSED TO HAVE A SIGN-OFF FORM SO EVERYBODY GETS NOTIFIED AND TALK ABOUT IT AND EVERYBODY AGREES AND THE FINAL LETTER IS

AN ISSUE. >> JUDGE BECERRA: THAT'S WHY I REFERENCED WHEN SHE WAS WORK THONG THE MASS GATHERING PROCESS. COMMISSIONER INGALSBE, YOU KNOW FOR SURE, THE MASS GATHERING PROCESS INCLUDES EVERYONE.

COMMISSIONER SHELL BECAUSE YOU WORKED IN THE COUNTY'S OFFICE, YOU ARE AWARE OF THAT MASS GATHERING PROCESS.

AND A GREAT ITEM TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYONE AROUND THE TABLE IS REACHED OUT TO. SO THAT IS ABSOLUTELY THE INTENT OF THAT CONTINUITY OF COMMUNICATION.

SO THANK YOU FOR POINTING THAT OUT, COMMISSIONER SHELL.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ON THIS SIDE.

>> DEBBIE INGALSBE: I DON'T THINK SO.

I REVIEWED IT YESTERDAY AND I THINK IT IS PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD. I LIKE THE SIGN-OFF IDEA.

GOT THAT TAKEN CARE OF. THANK YOU.

>> JUDGE BECERRA: SOUNDS WONDERFUL.

THANK YOU, AGAIN, KIM, FOR TUNING IN.

THANK YOU, AGAIN, ANITA FOR THE WORK -- OF COURSE, EVERYONE FOR THE WORK AND DR. CARDENAS, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

>> I WOULD LIKE TO THANK ANITA AND THE GENERAL COUNSEL'S

OFFICE. >> THANK YOU.

MY PLEASURE. >> JUDGE BECERRA: PLEASE CALL

THE ROAD DR. CARDENAS. >> MS. CARDENAS: COMMISSIONER

JONES. >> MARK JONES: YES.

>> DEBBIE INGALSBE: YES. >> WALT SMITH: YES.

>> JUDGE BECERRA: YES. SO NOW WE WILL END THIS W WORKSHOP OFFICIALLY. I WILL DO A LITTLE GRAVEL.

I WILL TRANSITION NEXT TO THE AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 42 PLEASE.

[42. Discussion related to the Hays County inmate population, to include current population counts and costs. BECERRA]

>> 42. DISCUSSION RELATED TO THE HAYS COUNTY INMATE POPULATION TO INCLUDE CURRENT POPULATION

COUNTS AND COSTS. >> EACH WEEK THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE SENDS ME A REPORT OF OUR JAIL POPULATION AND OUR MAXIMUM JAIL CAPACITY IS 410 INMATES. JAIL STANDARDS RECOMMENDS HOLDING APPROXIMATELY 10% OF CAPACITY OPEN, WHICH LOWERS OUR CAPACITY TO 368. THE JAIL'S DAILY AVERAGE WAS 541 AND PEAK 545 ON JUNE 7. THE ESTIMATED COST OF OUTSOURCING INMATES THIS WEEK IS $56,125.

THE AVERAGE NUMBER OF OUTSOURCED MALES IS 131 AND FEMALE, ZERO. THIS WEEK'S INMATES WERE HOUSED IN THE FOLLOWING COUNTIES, BURNETT, COMAL, FORT BEND AND GUADELUPE. ARREST BY AGENCY BUDA, SIX.

BPS, B 3 AND PRESDINGT ONE TWO. >> AND SAN MARCOS, 29.

AND TEXAS STATE UNIVERSITY, ONE.

[38. Discussion and possible action to establish program guidelines related to the Emergency Rental Assistance Program; establish temporary positions to manage the program and amend the budget accordingly. BECERRA/T.CRUMLEY]

>> 38 DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION TO ESTABLISH PROGRAM GUIDELINES RELATED TO THE EMERGENCY ASSISTANCE PROGRAM,

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THE BUDGET ACCORDINGLY. >> SO MOVED.

>> SECOND. >> JUDGE BECERRA: A MOTION AND A SECOND. AND I YIELD THE FLOOR MISS

CRUMBLY. >> I WILL STAY HERE.

TAMMY CRUMLEY, DIRECTOR OF COUNTYWIDE OPERATIONS.

THIS ITEM IS -- WE BROUGHT IT BACK TWO WEEKS AGO.

WE REJECTED THE RFPS FOR THE PROPOSALS FOR THE SIX COMP COMPANIES. WE WERE GOING TO DO OUR PROGRAM IN-HOUSE FOR THE TREASURY -- THE FUNDING FROM THE TREASURY DEPARTMENT FOR THE EMERGENCY RENTAL ASSISTANCE.

WE HAVE -- I THINK VICKI HAS HANDED OUT OUR DRAFT GUIDELINES AND APPLICATION PROCESS. AND FOLLOW THE TREASURY GUIDELINES THAT ARE PRIOR US TO AND HAVE A CHANCE TO LOOK AT THAT. I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.

AND PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD ON WHAT WE HAVE TO FOLLOW.

THE AMI FOR THE INCOME REQUIREMENTS FOR INDIVIDUALS AND THE AMOUNT OF RENTAL ASSISTANCE AND UTILITIES WE CAN PROVIDE TO THEM. WE THINK WITH THE MORATORIUM ENDING AT THE END OF JUNE, WE CAN POST THESE POSITIONS AND HAVE STAFF IN PLACE HOPEFULLY IN A WEEK OR SO AND GET THAT

PROGRAM UP AND RUNNING. >> THAT'S BEAUTIFUL.

VICKI, YOU WANT TO ADD SOMETHING?

>> YES, SIR, VICKI DORSETT, ASSISTANT COUNTY AUDITOR.

WHAT WE HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU ARE THE PROGRAM GUIDELINES AND APPLICATION AND DRIVE FORMAT. SO I DID DRAFT A BUDGET BASE $ON CONVERSATIONS AND MEETINGS THAT TAMMY AND JUDE AND I HAD.

ADMINISTRATION VERSUS BRINGING THIS PROGRAM IN HOUSE.

WE ARE BASED ON THIS INFORMATION AND NOT REALLY KNOWING WHAT MIGHT BE OUT THERE AS FAR AS NEEDS, WE FEEL LIKE THE POSITIONS THAT WERE PREVIOUSLY APPROVED IN MARCH, THE COURT HAD AUTHORIZED VETERAN SERVICE CASEWORKER AND ACCOUNTING ASSOCIATE TO PROCESS THE -- THE APPLICATIONS AS THEY CAME IN THE DATA ENTRY PART AND THE PART-TIME TREASURY ASSOCIATE. THOSE CONDITIONS WERE NOT FILLED. WE PUT THOSE ON HOLD.

WHEN IT WAS DETERMINED THAT WE WERE GOING TO SOLICIT THE PROGRAM ADMINISTRATION. BECAUSE WE KNEW THAT WOULD TAKE SOME TIME AND WE DIDN'T WANT TO HIRE STAFF AND HAVE THEM ON -- ON HAND AND NOT BEING UTILIZED. AND SO BASED ON THOSE THREE POSITIONS, WE ARE RECOMMENDING THE COUNTY HIRE A PROGRAM MANAGER. THIS POSITION WILL ACTUALLY MANAGE THE PROGRAM ADMINISTRATIVELY FOR THE COUNTY. AND OVERSEA THE PROGRAM STAFF.

NOT THE ACCOUNT AND TREASURY STAFF, AND WE WILL ALSO NEED A TECHNICAL POSITION. WE HAVE -- WE BELIEVE THAT SOMEONE COULD DO THIS VERY TEMPORARILY BASIS TO GET THIS DRAFT APPLICATION IN AN ONLINE FOR MAT AND HELP DEVELOP THAT.

AND DEVELOP SOME REPORTING THAT WE ARE GOING TO NEED TO SUBMIT BACK TO THE -- TO THE U.S. TREASURY.

AND THEN ALSO HAVE IF YOU W WILL-TIME -- ONE IF YOU W WILL-TIME CASEWORKER THAT WILL BE LOCATED HERE AT THE COURT HOUSE. AND A PART-TIME POOL OF CASEWORKERS. THE IDEA WITH THE POOL OF CASEWORKERS IS TO HAVE THE ABILITY TO HAVE SOME OUTREACH PROGRAM SPECIFIC TO EACH PRECINCT, AND INSTEAD OF APPROVING, LIKE, FIVE C CASEWORKERS, HAVE A POOL AND BRING THOSE IN JUST AS WE HAVE THESE OUTREACH EVENTS.

SO WORK WITH HR AND KIM IN GETTING SOME INFORMATION OUT TO THE PUBLIC AND WORKING WITH EACH COMMISSIONER PRECINCT OFFICE AND TRY TO DEVELOP A GOOD -- GOOD TIME AND GET SOME INFORMATION OUT THERE SO WE CAN IMMEDIATELY START TAKING THESE PAPER APPLICATIONS. IT WILL TAKE SOME TIME TO DEVELOP THE ONLINE APPLICATION, OF COURSE, BUT WE FEEL LIKE IF

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THIS THESE ARE TEMPERATURES POSITIONS SO THEY WILL NOT HAVE ANY BENEFITS AND HAVE AN HOURLY PAY.

AND WE FEEL THAT THE MANAGER AND IF YOU WILL-TIME CASEWORKER IS REQUIRED OUTSIDE OF THE TEMPORARY POSITIONS.

PRINTING FOR OUTREACH. JEFF MCGILL, I SPOKE WITH HIM AND TAMMY SPOKE WITH HIM AND SCAMMERS.

THEY HAVE LAP TOPS THEY WILL ALLOW US TO USE UNTIL THOSE COME IN AND WILL BE RULED OUT QUICKLY IF YOU APPROVE THE DRIVE GUIDELINES. THE ONE THING WITH THE GUIDELINES THAT WE WANT TO HAVE THE COURT INPUT ON ARE THE FACES. WE DO HAVE IT IN THESE DRAFT GUIDELINES WHICH IS THE FIRST DOCUMENT IN YOUR POCKET.

THESE ARE -- ARE PRETTY SIMILAR TO THE ONES THAT WE WENT OVER WITH YOU BACK IN MARCH BEFORE WE DECIDED TO DO A PROGRAM ADMINISTRATOR. AND BASED ON THE TREASURY GUIDANCE, WE DO HAVE TO PRIORITIZE THE 50% BELOW BE INCOME AND THIS WILL BE THE FIRST PHASE AND DOES NOT MEAN THAT WE HAVE OTHER APPLICATIONS AND HAVE IT READY WHEN THAT 21-DAY PERIOD ENDS. IT DOES MEAN THAT'S ALL WE WILL BE PROCESSING IN THE FIRST 21 DAYS.

AFTER THAT, IT IS UP TO THE COURT.

WE HAVE KIND OF PRIORITIZE THEM INTO TWO SECTIONS AFTER WE MET THE TREASURY GUIDELINES WHICH IS THE 21-DAY PERIOD FOR 50% OR BELOW. AND THE PRIORITY TWO IS ANY APPLICANTS THAT ARE ABOVE 50% MEDIAN INCOME BUT FACING IMMEDIATE EVICTION. AND PRIORITY THREE IS JUST A FIRST-COME FIRST-BASE THAT MEETS ALL THE CRITERIA.

I THINK ANOTHER THING THAT WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT IN THE PAST WAS ENSURING THAT WE TAKE CARE OF THOSE INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE BEHIND. THIS IS RENT AND AND ALLOW FOR FORWARD RENT IN THREE MONTH INCREMENT AND THEY ARE PHASED AND TRY TO DO THIS MUCH OUTREACH AND NOT PROCESS FORWARD TRENDS AT THIS TIME OR WE COULD PROCESS FORWARD RENT AS WE ARE PROCESSING BACK RENT. SO THAT IS ANOTHER ITEM THAT WE WOULD WANT THE COURT TO DETERMINE.

IF WE DO BACK RENT FIRST AND THEN FORWARD RENT LATER, WE WOULD SIMPLIFY THE PROCESS FOR THE APPLICANT.

IN OTHER WORDS, WE CAN'T PAY OUT MORE THAN THREE MONTHS AT A TIME FOR THE U.S. TREASURY GUIDANCE.

WE WOULD NOT HAVE EACH APPLICANT HAVE TO REAPPLY.

SO IT WILL JUST BE A ONE-PAGE DOCUMENT THAT STATES THAT THEY HAVE ALREADY HAVE THE IF YOU WILL APPLICATION ON FILE AND THEY WOULD HAVE TO CERTIFY THAT THEY WOULD HAVE TO RECEIVE DUPLICATE BENEFITS AND START FORWARD RENT UP TO 12 MONTHS.

>> I REALLY LIKE WHAT YOU JUST SUGGESTED, ADDRESSING FIRST AND FOLLOW-UP IF NECESSARY AND EVERYTHING AND IT IS OPENING UP AND CHANGING FASTER THAN WE CAN KEEP UP.

AND I WOULD LOVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS THE FACTS SO WE CAN FOCUS ON THE FUTURE BUT NOT IN ONE FELL

[02:10:02]

A ONE PAGER IF, IN FACT, THEY NEED TO COME BACK FOR WHATEVER REASON THAT WILL BE RE-EVALUATED.

THAT IS MY PREFERENCE. COMMISSIONERS?

>> DEBBIE INGALSBE: I AGREE, THOSE THAT ARE PAST DUE NEED TO BE ADDRESSED FIRST. SO I AGREE WITH THAT.

>> JUDGE BECERRA: PERFECT. ANYTHING ELSE?

ANY OTHER COMMENTS? >> IT INVOLVES EVERYTHING ELSE.

>> DEBBIE INGALSBE: SHORT AMOUNT OF TIME.

>> JUDGE BECERRA: ABSOLUTELY. SHORT AMOUNT OF TIME.

AND IT FEELS LIKE IT HAS NOT BEEN A -- A FAST ENOUGH PROCESS FOR SOME, BUT I WILL TELL THAT YOU WE ARE ABLE TO MOVE THROUGH ALL THIS MATERIAL BECAUSE WE HAVE MET ON THIS -- ON SO MANY FRONTS FOR SO MANY TIMES TRYING TO GET IT RIGHT.

TRYING TO GET IT MOST USEFUL. AND AS COMMISSIONER SHELL, WE HAVE BEEN WORKING FOR THIS QUITE SOME TIME AS A COURT AND WITH YOUR OFFICE. COMMISSIONER SMITH.

>> WALT SMITH: I AM GOOD. >> JUDGE BECERRA: VERY GOOD.

>> DEBBIE INGALSBE: JUST TO FOLLOW UP.

I THINK YOU ARE PROPOSING SEVEN POSITIONS TOTAL.

THREE OF WHICH WE HAVE ALREADY BUDGETED SO JUST FOR PERSONAL ONLY AND SUPPLIES, PRINTING AND OUTREACH.

>> YES. SO WHAT WE WOULD LIKE FOR THE COURT TO DO IS TO APPROVE THE GUIDELINES AS SET FORTH AND AS WE RULE THOUGHT PROGRAM IN -- THINGS MAY -- THINGS MAY COME UP THAN WE MIGHT HAVE A NEED TO BRING THESE BACK FOR CLARIFICATION. BUT BASED ON THIS INFORMATION, WE CAN GET THE GUIDELINES FINALIZED WITH THE BACK UP FIRST, FORWARD RENT LATER AND THEN WE WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT -- LIKE WHEN WE WENT OUT FOR SOLIS SO HE SOLICITATIONS, THE ADMINISTRATIVE COSTS WILL BE ANYWHERE BETWEEN 6 AND 8%.

SO THIS IS BRINGING THIS IN HOUSE HAS CUT THAT IN HALF.

SO WE WILL HAVE -- WE WILL HAVE MORE FUNDING AVAILABLE TO ASSIST OUR CITIZENS. SO WE WOULD BE PROPOSING THE -- I WANT -- I BROUGHT THE THREE POSITIONS BACK INTO THE BUDGET THAT WERE PREVIOUSLY APPROVED. BASICALLY, JUST SO YOU CAN SEE THE IF YOU WILL IMPACT OF WHAT THE COST WOULD BE FOR THE PROGRAM TO RUN INTERNALLY AND WE DON'T NEED TO VOTE ON THOSE POSITIONS. SO IT WOULD BE THE REMAINING FOUR POSITIONS AND ONE OF THOSE BEING A PULLED SLOT.

SO IT WOULD BE HOURS APPROVED. SO WE COULD BRING IN TWO OR 20.

JUST AS LONG AS WE DON'T EXCEED THOSE HOURS THAT ARE BUDGETED FOR THAT POSITION. AND ALL OF THOSE FOUR POSITIONS THAT ARE BEING PROPOSED, TAMMY HAS AGREED TO RUN THE PROGRAM, KINDS OF OVERSEE IT AS THE COUNTY LINE OPERATIONS DIR DIRECTOR. I THINK SHE HAS MENTIONED THERE IS SOME SPACE HERE THAT THEY CAN POTENTIALLY -- THE CASEWORKER CAN -- SO WE CAN HAVE A PERSON THAT IS ANSWERING THE PHONE AND A LIVE PERSON WHO CAN ALWAYS BE ASSISTING THOSE

-- >> JUDGE BECERRA: TAMMY'S OLD

OFFICE IS OPEN. >> AND IN A CENTRALLY LOCATED SPACE WHERE CITIZENS CAN COME HERE AND BRING THEIR PAPER APPLICATIONS. AND IF THEY ARE ALSO MEETING

WITH THE VETERAN'S OFFICE. >> JUDGE BECERRA: THAT IS REALLY SMART. I HAVE ONE SUGGESTION AS I -- THE MORE I -- THE MORE WE ALL GET EXPOSED TO, THE MORE WE LEARN. WHEN YOU BRING UP THE VETERAN'S OFFICE, REMINDED ME OF JUDE AND I DURING THE FREEZE LITERALLY GOING -- WHAT DO YOU CALL THAT, HOMELESS ENCAMPMENTS.

THERE ARE HOMELESS ENCAMPMENTS AND TRYING TO GET PEOPLE FROM FREEZING LIKE A LOLLIPOP DURING IN FREEZE THAT WE HAVE.

AND I AM LEARNING A LOT MORE AS WE GO ABOUT A LOT OF THINGS AND PRESIDE OVER LICENSE SUSPENSION HEARINGS AND I KNOW MANY PEOPLE MOVING AROUND OUT A LICENSE, WHETHERER IN NOT AUTHORIZED OR LOST IT OR WHATEVER. MY ASK NOW THE ACTION, BELOW THE DATE OF BIRTH, DELETE THAT LINE AND SAY GOVERNMENT-ISSUED PHOTO ID OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT INSTEAD OF HOPING IN SPECIFICALLY ON A DRIVER'S LICENSE.

THAT IS MY ASK. IF THERE ARE NO OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS, I WILL ASK THAT WE CALL THE ROLL.

>> I WAS GOING TO ASK IF JUDE WANTED TO CONTRIBUTE.

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>> JUDGE BECERRA: JUDE, WANT TO ADD ANYTHING?

ANYTHING SAID? >> I THINK THIS IS FROM

COVID-19 TO FINANCIAL RELIEF. >> A PERFECT DOVETAIL TO CLEAN UP AND CLOSE THE HEARTACHE THAT WE AS A COMMUNITY FELT OF THIS

RAVAGING PANDEMIC OVERALL. >> DEBBIE INGALSBE: KNOW THERE IS A MOTION AND SECOND ALREADY, BUT IS IT CLEAR, VICKI, WHAT THAT MOTION IS? THE FOUR POSITIONS AND

APPROVING THE GUIDELINES. >> YES.

IF WE CAN VOTE. YOU CAN VOTE ON THE BUDGET AS PRESENTED. IF YOU ARE MOVING THIS BUDGET.

AND I CAN GET THIS TO THE COUNTY CLERK AND THE -- AND THE TREASURER'S OFFICE AND PAYROLL DEPARTMENT FOR PROCESSING.

>> JUDGE BECERRA: TO BE MOST CLEAR, MOVE AS PRESENTED.

THE BUDGET AS PRESENTED. >> GUIDELINES WITH CHANGES AS DISCUSSED AND SO THE APPLICATION WILL HAVE THAT CHANGE FOR THE -- FOR THE GOVERNMENT-ISSUED PHOTO ID.

TAMMY MENTIONED ONE SECTION UNDER REQUIRED DOCUMENTATION.

AND WE NEEDED TO ADD THAT PAST DUE RENT NOTICES AS PROOF OF DOCUMENT OR EVICTION NOTICES. THAT WILL BE ADDED.

SO THOSE TWO ITEMS AND ON THE GUIDELINES WILL FURTHER CLARIFY THE THREE-MONTH FORWARD WILL NOT ROLL OUT UNTIL --

>> JUDGE BECERRA: EXACTLY. CALL THAT A MOTION AND SPOKEN INTO THE RECORD IF ANYONE WANTS TO REWINDS.

A SECOND. >> SECOND.

>> MOTION AND SECOND. ALL DISCUSSION HAS BEEN HAD.

I AM JUST LOOKING AT THE CAMERA FOR COMMISSIONER SMITH AND YOU ARE GOOD, RIGHT. AWESOME.

CALL THE ROLL. >> DEBBIE INGALSBE: YES.

>> LON SHELL: YES. >> MARK JONES: YES.

>> WALT SMITH: YES. >> JUDGE BECERRA: YES.

AND IF I AM NOT MISTAKEN, THANK YOU, VICKI AND TAMMY AND THANK YOU JUDY FOR ALL THE WORK YOU HAVE DONE.

AND IF I AM NOT MISTAKEN. >> 35.

ASKED TO IF YOU WILL. >> WALT SMITH: I ASKED TO PULL IT JUDGE SGRUJZ SOMEONE WANTS TO PULL SOMETHING, LET ME KNOW.

>> I APOLOGIZE. >> JUDGE BECERRA: MO PROBLEM

[34. Discussion and possible action to award the contract for IFB 2021-B08 RM 12 @ Winters Mill Parkway to Lone Star Sitework, LLC. SHELL/BORCHERDING]

>> 34, DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO AWARD THE CONTRACT FOR IFB 2021-B 08 RM 12@WINTERS MILL PARKWAY TO LONE STAR S SITEWORK LCC JUDGE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

>> THIS IS A LOW BID FOR THE WINTERS MILL PARKWAY AND LONE

STAR SITEWORK. >> JUDGE BECERRA: IF ANY OTHER COMMENTS. MR. BORCHERDING STANDING BY FOR THE VIEWING PUBLIC IF YOU DON'T SEE HIM.

CALL THE ROLL. >> MARK JONES: YES.

>> LON SHELL: YES. >> WALT SMITH: YES.

>> DEBBIE INGALSBE: YES. >> JUDGE BECERRA: YES.

AM I RIGHT ONLY NUMBER 40 LEFT. OPEN NUMBER 40.

[EXECUTIVE SESSIONS]

>> EXECUTIVE SESSION PURSUANT TO SECTION 551.071 AND 551.072 OF THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE. CONSULTATION WITH COUNSEL AND DELIBERATION REGARDING THE PURCHASE, EXCHANGE AND VALUE OF RIGHT-OF-WAY ALONG FM 621 IN PRECINCT 1.

POSSIBLE ACTION MAY FOLLOW IN OPEN COURT.

>> MOTION. >> SO MOVED.

IF YOU WERE NOT DIRECTLY TIED TO THIS EXECUTIVE SESSION ITEM,

>> JUDGE BECERRA: WE ARE BACK FROM EXECUTIVE SESSION AND

[40. Executive Session pursuant to Sections 551.071 and 551.072 of the Texas Government Code: consultation with counsel and deliberation regarding the purchase, exchange or value of Right of Way along FM 621 in Pct. 1. Possible action may follow in open court. INGALSBE]

>> DEBBIE INGALSBE: ITEM NUMBER 40 MAKE A MOTION FOR GENERAL COUNSEL TO EXECUTE A AGREEMENT FOR THE PURCHASE OF APPROXIMATELY 23,226 SQUARE FEET OF RIGHT AWAY ALONG FM 61 AND PRECINCT ONE AS PRESENTED IN EXECUTIVE SESSION.

>> SECOND. >> JUDGE BECERRA: A MOTION AND A SECOND AND ALL COMMENT HAVE BEEN HAD.

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PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. >> DEBBIE INGALSBE: YES.

>> MARK JONES: YES. >> LON SHELL: YES.

>> WALT SMITH: YES. >> JUDGE BECERRA: YES.

ONE MORE MOTION. >> JUDGE, I MAKE MOTION WE ADJOURN

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.