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US TO ORDER. HERE WE GO.

[CALL TO ORDER]

GOOD MORNING. I WOULD LIKE TO CALL THIS COURT TO ORDER. THIS MORNING'S INVOCATION WILL BE LED BY PASTOR JOSH OF SAN MARCOS SEVENTH ADVENTIST CHURCH. IF YOU WOULD PLEASE ALL RISE.

>> CHAPLAIN WAS NOT FEELING AS WELL AND I WILL STEP IN.

AND JOIN ME IN PRAYER. LET'S BOW OUR HEADS.

FATHER GOD, CREATOR OF HEAVENS AND EARTH, OUR REFUGE.

AS WE ARE FACED TROUBLES AND LOSS, WE CONTINUE TO ASK FOR YOUR PRESENCE, YOUR PEACE THAT SURPASSES ALL UNDERSTANDING, WISDOM AND JUSTICE. THIS MORNING, MAY EVERY ONE OF US GATHER HERE TO SERVE, BRING YOU GLORY AS WE SEEK TO CARE FOR THE WELL BEING OF EVERYONE IN THIS COUNTY.

STIR OUR HEARTS THAT WE MAY DO ALL THINGS IN LOVE AND HUM HUMILITY. SUSTAIN ALWAYS BY YOUR GRACE AND BLESSING. HOLY SPIRIT, MAY YOU ALSO LOOK UPON THIS COURT MOST ESPECIALLY IN OUR HEARTS.

THIS MORNING, WE ALSO WANT TO LIFT UP THE FAMILY OF OFFICER JUSTIN PUTNAM AS WE COME TO THE ONE-YEAR ANNIVERSARY OF HIS DEATH. LORD, BE WITH HIS FAMILY AND BE WITH US THIS SUNDAY AS WE REMEMBER HIM.

BLESS OUR COUNTY. BLESS OUR NATION IN JESUS'S NAME. AMEN.

>> JUDGE BECERRA: AMEN. THANK YOU, SIR.

I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO YOU TEXAS, ONE STATE UNDER GOD, ONE

INDIVISIBLE. >> JUDGE BECERRA: DR. CAR CARDENAS, WILL YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

INGALSBE INGALSBE HERE. >> MARK JONES: HERE.

>> LON SHELL: HERE. >> WALT SMITH: HERE.

>> JUDGE BECERRA: HERE. I HAVE BEEN ASKED -- I SHOWED UP TO A NOTE ON MY DESK ASKING ME TO PULL NUMBER 37.

IF THERE IS ANYONE HERE THAT WOULD LIKE TO MAKE ANY COMMENTS ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 37? I HAVE BEEN ASKED TO PULL IT.

AND WE WILL NOT TAKE IT UP. BUT IF YOU MADE THE TRIP OVER HERE, I WANT TO HONOR AND RESPECT YOUR TIME AND GIVE YOU AN OPPORTUNITY TO APPROACH THE PODIUM.

ANYONE ON 37? I GET THE IMPRESSION YOU DIDN'T

COME FOR ITEM 37, MR. LANE. >> I DIDN'T SEE IT.

THAT IS THE PROBLEM. I SPOKE WITH IT TWO WEEKS AGO AND I WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON IT AGAIN.

ONCE AGAIN THE GOOD NEWS FOR COUNTY EMPLOYEES IS THAT AMAZON WAREHOUSE IS HIRING. SO IS THE WALMART WAREHOUSE.

AND IF YOU FEEL YOU ARE NOT ADEQUATELY COMPENSATED HERE, YOU ARE NOT CHAINED TO THIS PLACE.

YOU CAN ALWAYS GO LOOK FOR ANOTHER JOB.

WHEN I WAS LISTENING TO WHAT HAD BEEN SAID BY THE HUMAN RESOURCES HEAD, SHE SAID SOMETHING ABOUT PROGRESSIVE

WAGES -- >> THIS ISN'T ON 37.

>> JUDGE BECERRA: THIS IS SPECIFICALLY 37.

>> WHAT IS 37 AGAIN? FULL PLEASE LET US CONTINUE WITH COURT. WE WILL GO TO PUBLIC COMMENTS.

[PUBLIC COMMENTS]

>> WHAT IS -- >> JUDGE BECERRA: THOSE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT SUBMITTED A PUBLIC PARTICIPATION FORM WILL NOW HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SP SPEAK.

UNFORTUNATELY, NO ACTION MAY BE TAKEN BY THE COURT DURING PUBLIC COMMENTS AS WE ARE EXPECTED NOT TO RESPOND.

ANY QUESTIONS WILL BE TAKEN AS RHETORICAL.

ALL COMMENTS AND OPINIONS OF THE SPEAKER ARE NOT NECESSARILY BE NECESSARILY CONSTRUED AS TRUTH.

KEEP YOUR COMMENTS AND LANGUAGE CIVIL AND RESPECTFUL OR YOU WILL FORFEIT YOUR TIME. IN THE SPIRIT OF RESPECT, PLEASE SILENCE YOUR CELL PHONES.

FIRST UP TO SPEAK MR. HARVEY JENKINS.

>> COMMISSIONERS, GOOD MORNING. I CAME HERE TODAY TO TELL THAT YOU ONCE AGAIN EAST COUNTY IS THE MOST INDEBTED OUT OF 254

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COUNTIES WITH 722 MILLION IN DEBT.

AND WHAT I AM ABOUT TO TELL YOU NEXT.

SATURDAY MORNING, 4:00 IN THE MORNING, I GOT A HAY HAY WRECKER ASSIST CALL BECAUSE A YOUNG HISPANIC COUPLE GOT REAR-ENDED AND I HAD TO TAKE THEM BACK HOME TO KYLE, TEXAS.

I HAD TO GET OFF ON EXIT 217 TO GO EAST ON WINDY HILL ROAD.

AT THAT TIME 2017 PETERBILT FLAT-BED TOW TRUCK WITH AN AIR SUSPENSION, AIR BRAKES, FULLY LOADED, ALL THE AMENITIES THAT A DRIVER LOOKS FOR. A QUARTER OF A MILLION DOLLAR TOW RIG. AS I WAS COMING BACK OUT OF WINDY HILL ROAD AROUND AM AMBLEWOOD SUBDIVISION, SOMETHING HAPPENED THAT THE SUSPENSION ON THAT TRUCK GOT DAMAGED. A REPRESENTATIVE TO COME AND SAY THAT MY BOSS IS UPSET ABOUT THE SUSPENSION ON THE TRUCK BEING DAMAGED. AND HE ASKED ME LAST NIGHT, AS A MATTER OF FACT, WHERE IT WAS WHEN IT HAPPENED, WHERE IT HAPPENED AND WHAT HAPPENED TO THE TRUCK.

I TOLD HIM I DON'T KNOW. WINDY HILL ROAD, WHILE IT IS SHOWING ROAD CONSTRUCTION, IT IS STILL A POORLY MAINTAINED BACK-COUNTRY ORIGINAL TWO-LANE THOROUGH FARE 32 YEARS AGO WHEN I LIVED -- WHEN I FIRST CAME TO LIVE IN HAYS HAYS IN HILLSIDE TERRACE. AND IF I AM COMING TO Y'ALL TO TELL THAT YOU THE HOW MANY ARE NOT COMING TO YOU WILL TO TELL YOU THEY GOT DAMAGED. THAT IS JERRY BORCHERDING'S AREA. AND COMMISSIONERS THAT HEAR THE GRIPES AND GRUMBLES AN NOT THEIR FAULT, ENTIRELY, BUT THEY ARE ON THE FOREFRONT OF GETTING IT FIXED.

AND LIKE I SAID A QUARTER OF A MILLION DOLLAR TRUCK GOT DAMAGED AND TWO TRUCKS HAVE TO GO ON THE SHOP FOR SUSPENSION DAMAGES DRIVING ON THE ROADWAYS AT HAYS COUNTY.

$722 MILLION IN DEBT OUR ROADWAYS SHOULD LOOK LIKE GL GLASS. OFF WONDERFUL DAY AND GOD

BLESS, COMMISSIONERS. >> JUDGE BECERRA: THANK YOU MR. HARVEY JENKINS. OUR NEXT WEEKER MR. RODRIGO

ABAYA. >> GOOD MORNING, JUDGE, COMMISSIONERS. COUPLE OF THINGS ABOUT THE LAST TIME WE MET. THESE MEETINGS THAT KEEP GETTING SKIPPED -- LIKE WE MISSED LAST TUESDAY.

A LOT OF STUFF ON THE PAPERS AND A LOT OF STUFF FOR US TO FOLLOW UP WHAT IS GOING ON. THAT'S WHY I CONSIDER INSTEAD OF THREE MINUTES GIVING US FIVE MINUTES BECAUSE TOO MUCH TIME OFF. THREE MINUTES IS JUST -- YOU KNOW, IT IS OUTDATED. FIVE MINUTES WILL BE BETTER.

JUST GIVE IT SOME THOUGHT. WE WOULD APPRECIATE IT.

LAST DISCUSSION I HAD HERE ACTUALLY WAS VERY TROUBLING TO ME. YOU KNOW AS A CHAIR OF THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE REFORM LAST TIME JUDGE HENRY WAS UP HERE TALKING OF THE REFORM AND HOW BROKEN THE SYSTEM IS AND ALL THIS STUFF THE INDIVIDUAL IN HERE FOR TIME AND TO FOLLOW THE OFFICIAL CODE OF CONDUCT. FOR HIM TO COME UP HERE AND TELL YOU THE HISTORY OF THIS PROGRAMS AND HOW WE NEED TO CONTINUE, IS UNACCEPTABLE. YOU ARE NOT LOOKING FOR THE INTEREST OF THE PEOPLE. YOU ARE LOOKING FOR THE PEOPLE THAT COME UP TO BE THEIR MOUTHPIECE.

LAST DISCUSSION, GENERAL COUNSEL SAID ARE WE ON AGENDA ITEM 7? HE IS NOT PAYING ATTENTION.

RUNNING AROUND WITH A COFFEE MUG.

SOMETHING NEEDS TO CHANGE -- CHANGE THE COFFEE OR SOMETHING SO HE CAN WAKE UP. I DON'T KNOW WHY HE IS STILL WITH THE COUNTY. NOW WE HAVE A LAWSUIT.

GIVE A JUDGE THAT FILED A LAWSUIT AGAINST THE JUDGES BECAUSE Y'ALL ARE PLAYING POLITICAL GAMES.

WHO GETS SUED? THE COUNTY DOES AND THESE TAXPAYERS ARE THE ONES THAT FOOT THE BILL.

A LAWSUIT FILED. IT IS IN STATUTE.

I HOPE YOU KNOW THAT COMMISSIONER JONES.

IT IS IN STATUTE. THE LAW SAYS IT IS NEEDED.

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COURT COORDINATOR -- WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL IT.

THE LAW SAYS IT IS NEEDED. NOW THERE IS A LAWSUIT.

THE LOSS RUN REPORT TELL US TAXPAYERS HOW MUCH AND WHO IS GETTING SUED AND HOW MANY MILLIONS ARE DOSING US.

THE TEXAS ASSOCIATION OF COUNTIES HAVE THAT EVERY YEAR THE LOSS RUN REPORT. WHO GETTING SUED AND HOW MUCH MONEY IT IS COSTING US. ALL THIS TOXIC LEADERSHIP, AND Y'ALL ARE JUST RUBBER STAMPING THEIR LITTLE REQUESTS.

THIS PAPERWORK IS FILLED WITH JUST REQUESTS THAT YOU CAN'T JUSTIFY. AND I ALREADY KNOW WHAT Y'ALL ARE GOING TO DO, RUBBER STAMP IT.

AND I AM TIRED OF THIS -- WELL, IT IS IN THE PUBLIC INTEREST AND TRAINING AND ALL THIS STUFF.

BEFORE YOU KNOW -- BEFORE YOU MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS, YOU SHOULD KNOW WHAT YOU ARE ALLOWED TO DO.

TAKES A LOT OF TRAINING TO BE ABLE TO MAKE THOSE DECISIONS.

THANK YOU. >> JUDGE BECERRA: THANK YOU.

THE NEXT SPEAKER IS MR. DAN LYON.

>> THANK YOU, JUDGE. QUICK APOLOGY TO THE COURT.

I HAD THE AGENDA FROM TWO WEEKS AGO.

AND I WAS READING 37 FROM THAT AGENDA.

SO IT WAS MY FAULT. ALL RIGHT, LET'S START OVER.

GOOD MORNING, JUDGE AND COMEDIES.

I WISH I HAD GOOD NEWS AND TELL YOU THAT THE CENTRAL APPRAISAL STARTED FOLLOWING THE TEXAS PROPERTY TAX CODE BUT I CAN'T VY VIOLATING 41.43 B OF AGE OF HOUSES WHEN THIS DEALS WITH THE APPRAISAL COMPARISON AND ARE NOT TAKING INTO THE AMOUNT OF MONEY WITH COMPARABLE SALES REPORT.

I DON'T KNOW IF IT IS LAZINESS, CORRUPTION OR BOTH BUT IT IS CLEAR THEY ARE NOT DOING THEIR JOB AND YOU ARE COMPLICITY ON THIS. IT IS NOT DIFFICULT TO UNDERSTAND WHY YOU DON'T CARE BECAUSE AS I HAVE PREVIOUSLY STATED, YOU SERVE THE BUILDERS, THE BANKERS, THE ROAD CONSTRUCTION FIRMS AND THE REAL ESTATE AGENTS BUT NOT THE PEOPLE OF HAYS COUNTY. SPEAKING OF NOT CARING AGENDA ITEM 38 THE LAST MEETING, BUILDING MAINTENANCE TO SPEND $52,000 TO REPAIR DAMAGE TO THE WICK BUILDING EVEN THOUGH INSURANCE WILL PICK UP MOST OF THE COST OF THE DISASTER I BELIEVE THAT SOMEONE SHOULD BE FIRED OF THIS.

THE ONLY TIME THEY ARE FIRED NOT FOR DERELICTION OF DUTY.

DID NOT SUFFER A SINGLE BROKEN PIPE BECAUSE THE EMPLOYEES TOOK THE INITIATIVE TO WRAP THE PIPES.

THE COUNTY HAD A WEEK TO TEN DAYS TO PREPARE AND I WANT TO KNOW WHAT THEY DID WITH THAT TIME MR. JENKINS IS RIGHT OF ROAD CONDITIONS IN THE COUNTY. I NEVER FLOWN A BOMBER IN COMBAT BUT I IMAGINE I AM BEING SHOT AT BY 88-MILLIMETER ARTILLERY FLAK WHEN I DRIVE ON SOME OF THE ROADS.

THAT IS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN MONEY IS MISAPPROPRIATED ON SOME OF THESE THINGS. LET ME GET TO WHAT WE ARE SPENDING ON THE JAIL, $244,200 AND THREE MONTHS AT SCOTIA, BLANCO, GUADELUPE, HARD EQUIPMENT REPAIRS.

SPENDING $3690.20. I THOUGHT THAT WAS PART OF THE DEAL BUT NOT. TURNER CONSTRUCTION RENOVATIONS TO THE JAIL FACILITY, $85 $85,127.27.

WHEN WILL WE END PAYING FOR THE JAIL THAT IS ALREADY OUT-OF-DATE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> THANK YOU MR. DAN LYON, I AM MAKING NOTES ON YOUR COMMENTS. THAT CONCLUDES OUR PUBLIC

COMMENT PORTION. >> JUDGE BECERRA: I THOUGHT THAT WAS ON ITEM THAT WOULD SPEAK ON.

>> THAT'S RIGHT, ITEMS 42. >> THERE IS STILL ANOTHER --

>> JUDGE BECERRA: THIS ONE HERE? ONE MORE. MR. MICHAEL LEE, FULL PLEASE APPROACH THE PODIUM. OUR LAST ENTRY ON THE PUBLIC

COMMENT. >> THANK YOU FOR THE APPEAR AND I AM SURE IT IS EASIER FOR MR. JUDGE BECERRA TO THE A READ

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MY HIEROGLYPHICS. >> THANK YOU FOR THE LEADERSHIPS YOU HAVE SHOWN OF TRYING TO ENFORCE JUSTICE IN HAYS COUNTY. I HOPE THAT THE SAME SPIRIT COULD APPLY TO THE PUBLIC DEFENDER'S OFFICE, HAYS COUNTY, COMAL GROUPED TOGETHER AND MY CERTAIN IS FOR CRIMINAL JUSTICE IN THE AREA. THE SMALLER COUNTIES MAY NOT BE ABLE TO AFFORD IT, AND PERHAPS IT SHOULD BE -- SOME PEOPLE -- SO OTHER COUNTIES SHOULD -- TO PUT IN THE KITTY A LITTLE BIT.

I SPECIFICALLY SPOKE TO THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY IN CALDWELL COUNTY AND I DON'T KNOW IF THEY HAVE THE FUNDS TO HIRE AN ADDITIONAL. THE MAGISTRATE ISSUE THIS I THINK IS IMPORTANT THAT HAYS COUNTY IS PARTICIPATING IN A PROJECT WITH HARED FOR LAW SCHOOL AND LOCAL ATTORNEYS.

LOCAL ATTORNEYS USUALLY PRACTICE IN MORE THAN ONE COUNTY AND I AM CONCERNED CRIMINAL JUSTICE NOT JUST IN HAYS, KAMD WELL AND COMAL AND HOPE THAT YOU SHARE THE SAME CONCERN. I KNOW YOU ARE SEARCHED OF CRIMINAL JUSTICE BECAUSE YOU HAVE DONE THING TO INDICATE THAT YOU DO HAVE CONCERN. AND YOU NEED TO BE COMMENDED BECAUSE YOUR LEADERSHIP AND FORSIGHT IN ADDRESSING ISSUE THIS WAS AND EVERYTHING THAT SHOULD BE ON THE BACK BURNER OF EVERYBODY. I DON'T BELIEVE THAT THE CONTINUED IMPACT OF A FELONY CONVICTION SHOULD BE A LIFE SENTENCE. I KNOW PEOPLE WHO HAVE ACTUAL CONVICTIONS, WHO HAVE LICENSES. AND I KNOW TEACHERS -- I KNOW A TEACHER WHO CAN'T GET HIS LICENSE BECAUSE HE HAS FELONY CONVICTION. THAT IS FAIR AND I BELIEVE SOME IDEA OR THINKING TO ELIMINATE THE IMPACT OF FELL ME CONVICTION. A FELONY CONVICTION SHOULD NOT BE A LIFE SENTENCE AND NOW IT IS.

BUT FOR CERTAIN ATTORNEYS IT IS NOT.

I KNOW AN ATTORNEY WHO DID TIME FOR MURDER.

AND HE HAS LAW LICENSE. SO IT IS NOT FAIR THAT SOMEONE WHO IS NOT SO EDUCATED AND HAPPENS TO NOT BE OF THAT COLOR AND PERSUASION, NOT FAIR THAT THEY CANNOT GET RELIEF FROM THAT. AND I BELIEVE THIS COURT HAS ALREADY SHOWN ITS LEADERSHIP AND I BELIEVE IN MAKING A STATEMENT ABOUT THAT AND APPROACH THAT ISSUE WOULD BE HELPFUL AND BENEFICIAL TO THE COMMUNITY AS A WHOLE.

THANK YOU. >> JUDGE BECERRA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. MICHAEL LEE. GENUINELY APPRECIATE YOUR

[1. Adopt a proclamation recognizing April 11-17, 2021 as National Telecommunicators Week. INGALSBE/CUTLER]

COMMENTS. AND WILL YOU PLEASE OPEN AGENDA

ITEM NUMBER. >> NUMBER 1, ADOPT A PROCLAMATION RECOGNIZING APRIL 11-17, 2021 AS NATIONAL TELECOMMUNICATORS WEEK. DEBBIE WASSERMAN SCHULTZ SO

MOVED. >> SECOND.

>> JUDGE BECERRA: MOTION AND A SECOND.

INGALSBE INGALSBE YES. >> MARK JONES: YES.

>> LON SHELL: YES. >> WALT SMITH: YES.

>> JUDGE BECERRA: YES. PLEASE READ THE PROCLAMATION.

>> WHEREAS EMERGENCIES CAN OCCUR AT ANY TIME THAT REQUIRE POLICE, FIRE AND EMERGENCY MEDICAL SERVICES.

AND WHEREAS, WHEN AN EMERGENCY OCCURS, THE PROMPT RESPONSE OF POLICE OFFICERS, FIRE FIGHTERS AND PARAMEDICS IS CRITICAL TO THE PROTECTION OF LIFE AND PRESERVATION OF PROPERTY.

AND WHEREAS, PUBLIC SAFETY DISPATCHERS ARE THE FIRST CONTACT OUR RESIDENTS HAVE WITH EMERGENCY SERVICES.

THEY PROVIDE STEADY GUIDANCE AND SUPPORT IN A CALLER'S MOST FRANTIC AND PANICKED MOMENTS. WHEREAS, PUBLIC SAFETY DIS DISPATCHERS ARE THE VITAL LINK FOR OUR POLICE OFFICERS AND FIRE FIGHTERS BY MONITORING TEIR ACTIVITIES, PROVIDING THEM INFORMATION AND ENSURING THEIR SAFETY.

WHEREAS, PUBLIC SAFETY DISPATCHERS ARE MORE THAN A CALM AND REASSURING VOICE AT THE END OF THE PHONE, THEY ARE THE UNSEEN FIRST RESPONDERS. THEY ARE KNOWLEDGEABLE AND HIGHLY TRAINED INDIVIDUALS WHO WORK CLOSELY WITH OTHER POLICE, FIE AND MEDICAL PERSONNEL. AND WHEREAS, PUBLIC SAFETY DISPATCHERS OF HAYS COUNTY HAVE CONTRIBUTED SUBSTANTIALLY TO THE APPREHENSION OF SUPPRESSION OF FIRES AND TREATMENT OF PATIENTS. AND WHEREAS, EACH DISPATCHER

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HAS EXHIBITED COME PASSION, UNDERSTANDING, DEDICATION AND PROFESSIONALISM. AND WHEREAS, PUBLIC SAFETY DISPATCHERS SERVE THE PUBLIC IN COUNTLESS WAYS WITHOUT RECOGNITION FOR THE BENEFICIARIES OF THEIR SER SERVICES. HOW TO THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED THAT THE HAYS COUNTY COMMISSIONERS COURT PROCLAIM APRIL 11-17,2021 AS NATIONAL TELECOMMUNICATORS WEEK ADOPT THIS, THE 13TH DAY OF APRIL 2021.

>> JUDGE BECERRA: THAT IS WONDERFUL.

COMMISSIONER INGALSBE, THE SHERIFF IS HERE WITH US.

WOULD YOU LIKE TO APPROACH THE PODIUM AND SAY A FEW WORDS.

>> GOOD MORNING, JUDGE, COMMISSIONERS.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU FOR THE PROCLAMATION.

THE DISPATCH CENTER, COMMUNICATION CENTER OF THE HAYS COUNTY SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT YOU CAN ALMOST SAY IS THE BACKBONE OF THE COUNTY. LIKE THE PROCLAMATION SAYS.

WHEN CITIZENS ARE CALLING, THEY ARE THE FIRST ONES THEY ARE GOING TO BE IN CONTACT WITH. THESE -- THESE LADIES AND GENTLEMEN DOWN HERE DO A TREMENDOUS JOB.

EXAMPLE IS THE FLOOD WE HAD YEARS AGO.

WHEN THEY GOT THOUSANDS OF 911 CALLS.

AND TAKING CALLS LIKE THAT TO GET ASSISTANCE TO SOMEONE STRANDED ON THE ROOF. TALK TO A PATROL OFFICER HOW TO DELIVER A BABY ON THE SIDE OF THE HIGHWAY.

THEY DO IT ALL AND DO A GREAT JOB.

AND THANK YOU FOR THE PROCLAMATION.

>> JUDGE BECERRA: THANK YOU, SIR.

SINCE YOU HAVE THIS PROCLAMATION AND GOOD REPUTATION. WOULD YOU BE INTERESTED IN A QUICK PIC. IF WE WILL MAKE TIME FOR A PICTURE.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. GENUINELY GRATEFUL.

[2. Presentation by the Hays County Child Protective Board (HCCPB) regarding the opening of the Remme Rainbow Room in December 2020. INGALSBE]

>> JUDGE BECERRA: WILL YOU PLEASE OPEN AGENDA ITEM NUMBER

2. >> 2, PRESENTATION BY THE HAYS COUNTY CHILD PROTECTIVE BOARD REGARDING THE OPENING OF THE REMMIE RAINBOW ROOM IN DECEMBER 2020.

>> JUDGE BECERRA: WE HAVE TWO PEOPLE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK.

I DON'T KNOW IF THEY ARE TIED TO THE PRESENTATION OR WANT TO SPEAK BEFORE THE PRESENTATION. SO LET'S START WITH KAREN BR

BROWN. >> HELLO.

YOU HAVE SEEN ME A LOT, BUT I WANT TO SAY GOOD MORNING TO THE COURT AND TO ALL THE PEOPLE IN THE ROOM.

WE ARE HERE THIS MORNING NOT TO ASK FOR ANYTHING.

WE ARE HERE --

-- >> SURPRISE.

>> YES, SURPRISE, SURPRISE. WE ARE HERE QUICKLY TO THANK YOU. I AM KAREN BROWN.

THIS IS MARY COBEL WITH THE HAYS COUNTY CHILD PROTECTIVE BOARD WHICH IS APPOINTED BY THE COUNTY COMMISSIONERS.

WE ARE ON THE RAINBOW COMM COMMITTEE.

THE BOARD MEMBERS WHO ARE WITH US THIS MORNING.

KAREN, JODY, AND OUR VICE PRESIDENT SAM.

WE ARE ALL VERY HAPPY TO BE HERE.

LIKE I SAID, WE ARE HERE TO SAY THANK YOU.

THANK YOU TO YOU AND THE WHOLE COUNTY THAT HAVE HELPED US WITH RENOVATING THE REMMIE RAINBOW ROOM.

OUR SPECIAL GUEST HERE TODAY IS BRENDA.

YES. THANK YOU, BRENDA.

BRENDA AND HER HUSBAND CAREY REMMIE RAINBOW CAME TO US TO

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THE BOARD AND SAID WHAT DO YOU NEED.

THAT WAS THEIR SIMPLE QUESTION, AND NEVER HELPED TO FULFILL THAT NEED. OUR ANSWER WAS, THE CHILDREN NEED AN IMPROVED RAINBOW ROOM. WE THOUGHT WHAT IF INSTEAD OF 600 SQUARE FEET FOR A RAINBOW ROOM, WE HAVE THOUSANDS OF SQUARE FEET FOR A RAINBOW ROOM. ALL THE THINGS THAT WE COULD DO AND HAVE FOR THE CHILDREN. BECAUSE OF THE SUPPORT AND INCREDIBLE GENEROSITY OF BRENDA AND CAREY REMMIE, THE COMMISSIONERS COURT AND SO MANY IN THE COUNTY, THE NEW HAYS COUNTY RAINBOW ROOM IS NOW O OPEN.

WE HAVE THOUGHT ABOUT HAVING A GRAND OPENING, A DELL DEDICATION, A THANK YOU CELEBRATION, BUT COVID PUT A CRAMP IN OUR PLANS. A BOARD MEMBER, SARAH HALL CREATED THIS SLIDE SHOW WHICH WE HOPE WILL HELP US EXPRESS OUR GRATITUDE TO EVERYONE. THANK YOU.

LIGHTS. ♪ ♪ ♪

♪. >> JUDGE BECERRA: THAT WAS

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BEAUTIFUL. THANK YOU BOTH FOR BEING HERE FOR THAT PRESENTATION. ABSOLUTELY WONDERFUL.

AND I LOVE THE SNAPSHOTS OF OUR COMMISSIONERS ON HERE.

WILD, WILD WEST. WELL-DONE.

BEAUTIFUL. GENUINELY.

IT ALSO REMINDED ME OF THE PINK FLOYD ALBUM COVER THAT HAD ONE

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WHITE LIGHT, ONE RAY OF WHITE LIGHT ENTERING THE PRISM OF -- I THINK IT IS A PYRAMID IN THEIR COVER.

AND OUT COMES A RAINBOW OF COLORS AND I THINK THE INTERPRETATION OF THAT IS, WE ALL COME FROM ONE AND ALL THE VARIATIONS THAT COME OUT OF THAT IS OUT OF US AND STILL ONE. AND THAT IS A WONDERFUL MESSAGE AND I AM GRATEFUL TO BE A WITNESS TO IT AND THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR PUTTING GREAT WORDS BEHIND THAT GESTURE TOO BECAUSE ONE OF THE HIGHEST VIBRATIONAL SPACES THAT WE CAN OCCUPY IS GRATITUDE AND YOU CONVEYED THAT.

I SAY THANK YOU IN RETURN. COMMISSIONERS? DEBBIE WASSERMAN SCHULTZ JUDGE, I REA THANKING US. IN ACTUALITY.I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR THE WORK THAT YOU DO. IT HAS TO BE EXTREMELY DIFFICULT TO DEAL WITH THESE DICHS SITUATIONS AND UNFORTUNATELY WE HAVE TO HAVE THESE TYPE OF SERVICES, BUT IT IS ALSO REWARDING TO KNOW WE HAVE SO MANY THAT ARE GOING TO UP AND VOLUNTEER WHAT YOU DO. YOU HAVE BEEN SO HELPFUL FOR PROJECTS IN HAYS COUNTY. AND WE APPRECIATE THE STUFF DO YOU. I CAN'T WAIT TO GO VISIT LOOKS BEAUTIFUL ON VIDEO AND EVEN MORE STUNNING IN PERSON.

THANK YOU ALL FOR YOU DO. >> JUDGE, YOU WANT TO THANK YOU -- THANK YOU FOR NOT BRINGING LEE.

IN INTEREST OF TIME. BUT, NO.

I KNOW HE HAS BEEN WORKING ON THIS.

THIS IS ONE OF HIS -- HE HAS BEEN PUSHING FOR THIS FOR A LONG TIME AND THANKFUL FOR ALL THE COMMISSIONS WE POINT PEOPLE DO, Y'ALL DEAL WITH SOME OF THE TOUGHEST ISSUES OUR COUNTY AND THEIR, CARRIES ON THE TRADITION GIVING BACK FOR LONG, LONG TIME. WE VERY MUCH APPRECIATE IT.

>> THANK YOU, JUDGE. I WANT TO THANK THE COMMISSIONERS AND AS MR. JONES SAID IT IS HARD WORK AND TO HAVE LOVING PEOPLE TO TAKE ON SOMETHING SO HARD AND SPEND YOUR TIME TO DO THAT AND I WANT TO THANK THE REMMIE FAMILY FOR THEIR AGAIN ROSS TEASE ALWAYS STEPPED UP WHEN THE COMMUNITY NEEDED SOMETHING. AND THIS IS ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF THAT. VERY GRATEFUL FOR YOUR GENEROSITY AND THE WORK YOU DO IN OUR COMMUNITY AND SAY IT WAS GOOD TO SEE MRS. FARR ON THERE. THAT WAS NEAT TO SEE.

SHE WOULD HAVE LOVED THIS. >> JUDGE BECERRA: COMMI

COMMISSIONER. >> I WANT TO SAY ALL THE WORK THAT YOU HAVE DONE AND TELL YOU WORKING AND MY EXECUTIVE ASSISTANT AND THIS IS PASSION FOR HER AND THIS IS A PROJECT SHE HAS REALLY GRABBED A HOLD OF AND I CAN'T LET THIS GO BY WITHOUT GIVING A PLUG FOR YOU THIS MONTH BECAUSE A DIAPER DRIVE GOING ON THAT YOU PROBABLY SAW ON THE SLIDES.

A LOT OF EMPTY SHELVES. IF YOU HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY FOUR DROP-OFF LOCATIONS. THE DIAPER DRIVE FOR THESE FOLKS THROUGH APRIL 15. DIAPER AND WIPES DROP THEM OFF AT SAM'S AND SAN MARCOS AND THE CLINICAL PATHOLOGY LABS AND KISSING TREE, INDEPENDENCE HALL AND THE PRECINCT 4 OFFICE IN DRIPPING SPRINGS. IF YOU HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY, I WOULD KEN URGE TO YOU DO THAT. WE HAVE A BIG DROP-OFF BOXES.

THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU DO AND LET'S SEE IF WE CAN STOCK THE SHELVES FOR THE GREAT ARE PROJECT THAT YOU HAVE DONE.

>> ONE. >> OF THE BEST AND HIGHEST USES OF GOVERNMENT TO SERVE THE PEOPLE IN SUCH A SPECIAL WA AND SUCH A VERY SPECIAL TIME. WE ALL GO THROUGH HARD TIMES ONE WAY OR AND SEE THE SAME THING AND SEE IT DIFFERENTLY.

GLAD TO HAVE ORGANIZATIONS AND HEARTS LIKE YOURS TO DO THE HARD WORK TO BE AN EXTENSION OF THIS GOVERNMENT TO BE THE MOST MEANINGFUL IN TIME. AND YOU HELP THEM AND HELL HELP US. THANK YOU AND CONTINUE TO DO GOD'S WORK.

WOULD YOU GUYS LIKE TO TAKE A QUICK PICTURE BEFORE YOU HEAD OUT? OKAY, LET'S DO THAT.

[3. Update from the County Judge and staff regarding the Local Disaster Declaration and COVID-19. Possible discussion and action may follow. BECERRA]

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CARDENAS, OPEN AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 3.

>> UP DATE FROM THE COUNTY JUDGE AND STAFF OF LOCAL DISASTER DECLARATION AND COVID-19.

POSSIBLE DISCUSSION AND ACTION MAY FOLLOW.

>> JUDGE BECERRA: COULD YOU PLEASE APPROACH THE PODIUM AND

PROVIDE US A CONCISE UPDATE. >> GOOD MORNING, MIKE JONES, DIRECTOR OF EMERGENCY SERVICES. WE FINISHED LAST WEEK WITH THE PERFORMING ART CENTER WITH A SECOND DOSE CLINIC AND ANOTHER EUCLIDEAN SECOND DOSE CLINIC THIS WEEK.

LAST WEEK WAS A MONDAY-THURSDAY SECOND DOSE.

AS WE DOG OF THESE CLINICS I DON'T WANT TO SPEND A LOT OF TIME AND BORE YOU WITH SOME OF THE INFORMATION.

SOME OF IT IS NOT BORING. THE SAN MARCOS HAS BEEN MAKING THIS CLINIC A SUCCESS. I DON'T MENTION THEM ENOUGH BECAUSE WITHOUT THE GUYS AND GALS WE COULDN'T DO WHAT WE HAVE BEEN DOING FOR THE LAST SEVERAL MONTHS AND SO I CAN'T SA ENOUGH GOOD THINGS ABOUT THEM.

THEY HAVE BEEN BIG CHAMPS WHEN IT COMES TO IT.

THEY HAVE BEEN PUSHING PEOPLE THROUGH FROM 125 AN HOUR AND UP TO 325 AN HOUR WHICH IS PHENOMENAL WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE AMOUNT OF TIME. THEY ARE OUT IN THE CLINIC AT EIGHT, NINE HOURS AT A TIME WITH ONLY A LUNCH BREAK AND MAYBE A BATHROOM BREAK AND THAT'S ABOUT IT.

ALONG WITH THAT FOR THE CITIZENS WATCHING, THEY CAN GET THEIR DOSES AT B & J FAMILY, CUMMICARE AND LIVE OAK.

THE LIVE OAK WILL GO INTO A WALK-IN CLINIC AND GET A SHOT TOO. SOME OTHER THINGS WE ARE WORKING TO BRING TO THE TABLE LATER ON THIS WEEK IF NOT NEXT WEEK. I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE EVERYTHING PUT TOGETHER AND PUT IN PLACE.

A LITTLE BIT OF A TEASER. FIRST BED RESPONSE OPERATIONAL AT RANCH PARK AND THEY WILL BE THERE FOR EVERY TUESDAY AND WEDNESDAY FOR THE FIRST DOSE. WHEN THEY FINALLY GET INTO THE SECOND DOSE REGIMEN, DOING THE SECOND DOSE ON THURSDAY AND FRIDAY AND END UP BY THE END OF MAY HAVING A FIRST DOSE CLINIC FROM TUESDAY AND WEDNESDAY AND A SECOND DOSE FOR THURSDAY AND FRIDAY. THOSE INDIVIDUALS WHO RECEIVED THEIR FIRST DOSE IN AUSTIN, FOR EXAMPLE, AND GET THEIR SECOND DOSE, THEY WILL GO UP THERE AND GET THE SECOND DOSE AND OTHER OPPORTUNITIES AS WELL. OTHER THAN THAT, ALSO -- I ALSO WANT TO MENTION THAT THE -- THE HAYS COUNTY CONSOLIDATED INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICT HAVE BEEN PROVIDING US A PLATFORM AND ANOTHER TEACHER PLATFORM FOR CLINICS THAT WE WILL BE ANNOUNCING ALONG WITH AN -- WITH THE SPRINGS PARK AND BAPTIST CHURCH HAVE BEEN WILLING TO HELP US LEFT AND RIGHT AND WITHOUT THE VOLUNTEERS AND WITHOUT YOUR SUPPORT, THIS WOULDN'T HAVE GONE OUT AS WELL AS IT HAVE IN THIS COUNTY. YOUR QUESTIONS.

>> JUDGE BECERRA: I WOULD LIKE TO ADD -- A LITTLE FURTHER TEASER IS WARRANTED BECAUSE IT IS IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND THAT WE ARE CONTINUING TO WORK -- ALTHOUGH THE DUST MAY BE SETTLING ON SEVERAL FRONTS COVID-RELATED, WE CONTINUE TO WORK ON THIS NONSTOP. AND WE ARE CRAFTING A ARTICULATION HOW TO REACH THE IMMORALIZED AND WE ARE WELL UNDER WAY AND HAVE BEEN WORKING ON THIS FOR QUITE SOME TIME AND

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WE ARE WORKING WITH THE STATE TO POPULATE A LIST AND OTHER ORGANIZATIONS TO HELP US GET A TRUE LIST OF FOLKS THAT ARE HOME BOUND SO WE COULD HAVE A TEAM GO TO THEM AND GET THEM THE VACCINE AND MAKE IT ACCESSIBLE TO THOSE WHO AREN'T ABLE TO MOVE AROUND. AND I THINK IT IS ALSO IMPORTANT THAT FOLKS UNDERSTAND AS THE DUST BEGINS TO SETTLE, I BELIEVE IN P-3, THAT IS PUBLIC-PRIVATE PARTNERSHIPS.

I DO. I WILL ALWAYS SUPPORT THE IDEA AS LONG AS THE SUN SHINES FOR EVERYONE.

AS LONG AS IT IS AGREEABLE THAT EVERYONE IN THE RELATIONSHIP HAS MUTUAL BENEFIT. , AND SO THE BENEFIT OF PUBLIC, PRIVATE PARTNERSHIPS IN VACCINATIONS HAVE BEEN -- WE ATE MORE AGGRESSIVELY THROUGH OUR VACCINATION LIST BECAUSE WE HAVE HELP FROM PRIVATE PRACTICES, FROM PRIVATE PHARMACIES, FROM PRIVATE ORGANIZATIONS, PRIVATE BUSINESSES. AND THEY HELPED US.

AND WE ERODED THROUGH THAT LIST IN A VERY EFFICIENT WAY.

THE OTHER SIDE OF THAT REALITY IS WHEN WE AS A GOVERNMENT PROVIDE VACCINATIONS, THERE ARE NO DOLLARS TIED TO IT AS FAR AS AN EXPENSE. BUT UNDERSTAND THIS, BECAUSE I HAD A FEW PEOPLE BEND MY EAR OVER IT.

UNDERSTAND THIS. WHEN A PRIVATE PRACTICE ADMINISTERS A VACCINE, IT IS IMPORTANT THAT FOLKS KNOW THAT THEY HAVE OUT OF THEIR OWN PRIVATE MONEY, OUT -- IT IS A PRIVATE BUSINESS. THEY HAVE A SPACE TO OCCUPYING WITH SOME KIND OF RECOUPING WITH RESOURCES ALLOCATED TO A VACCINATION. SOME FOLKS OUT THERE WILL COME ACROSS A FEE AND I WANT TO ARTICULATE NOT A FEE FOR THE VACCINE. IT IS AN ADMINISTRATION FEE THAT A PRIVATE PRACTICE WILL TRY TO RECOUP.

I WOULD IMAGINE ONLY SOME OF THEIR COSTS.

OF VACCINATING AN INDIVIDUAL. BUT I WILL -- ARTICULATE THIS FURTHER. WE AS THE COUNTY IN THE COUNTY'S SPECIFIC EFFORTS DON'T CHARGE A FEE.

DON'T HAVE ANY ASSOCIATED COSTS TO IT.

AND I KNOW THAT COULD BE CONFUSING IN CERTAIN SPACES, BUT I WANTED TO TAKE THIS TIME, BECAUSE I HAD ENOUGH PEOPLE BRING IT UP THAT IT DESERVES THIS MOMENT TO CLARIFY THAT.

NO, THE VACCINE IS NOT FOR SALE.

NO, YOU ARE NOT BEING HUSTLED BY A FEE FOR THE ADMINISTRATION OF, BUT THAT IS THE PRIVATE ROUTE -- PRIVATE PRACTICE IN SOME WAY, SHAPE OR FORM THAT HAVE ADMINISTERED THAT FEE, OFF THIS THE ABILITY TO -- WE ARE STILL WORKING THROUGH IT.

WE ARE STILL AVAILABLE. AND WE ARE STILL RUNNING SHOPS TO HAVE COUNTY-RUN, CO COUNTY-SPONSORED -- ENTIRELY -- VACCINATION EVIDENT. I DON'T WANT PEOPLE TO SAY I DON'T HAVE $40; THEREFORE, I CAN'T GET VACCINATED.

I WANT PEOPLE TO UNDERSTAND THAT THAT IS A POSSIBILITY THAT IS AVAILABLE TO SOME PEOPLE, BUT YOU CAN STILL GO 100% FREE THROUGH THE COUNTY. AM I RIGHT?

>> YES, JUDGE, YOU ARE RIGHT. THE FEE WILL BE CHARGED WITH FOLKS WITH INSURANCE -- SOME BRING -- THEY CHARGE THE INSURANCE COMPANIES FOR THE ADMINISTRATION FEE.

STILL NO OUT-OF-POCKET EXPENSE TO THE -- IF YOU HAVE INSU INSURANCE, THEY WILL ASK FOR THAT.

IF YOU DON'T HAVE INSURANCE, YOU GET THE SHOT WITHOUT A FEE.

>> JUDGE BECERRA: SOME PRIVATE PRACTICES -- I DON'T SEE SOME SCENARIO, SOME INDIVIDUALS HAVE HAD AN ACTUAL CONTRIBUTION OUT OF THEIR POCKET FOR ADMINISTRATION FEES.

I WANT FOLKS TO KNOW IF YOU WERE INSURED OR IF YOU WERE IN ANY OF THOSE SETTINGS, JUST UNDERSTAND THAT WE AS THE COUNTY WILL NOT CHARGE YOU T THAT.

I THINK THAT IS THE FOCUS OF MY MESSAGE HERE.

AND THAT YOU STEP OUT INTO THE PRIVATE SECTOR, THERE IS A POSSIBILITY THAT THEY WILL BILL THEIR INSURANCE IF YOU HAVE IT OR SOME OTHER VARIATION EXISTS. AND SO IF YOU ARE IN A PRIVATE PRACTICE, WHICH I DON'T BLAME THEM AT ALL, IT IS JUST A GOOD IDEA TO ASK SO THAT SOMEBODY DOESN'T GET A SURPRISE.

THAT IS IT. I DON'T CALL IT MALICIOUS IN ANY WAY AND GIVE FOLKS A HEADS UP.

>> PUT EMPHASIS WITH PRIVATE PARTNERS.

THAT COMMISSIONERS -- ONLY WITH FOLKS THAT HAVE INSURANCE.

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IF THEY DON'T HAVE INSURANCE. THEY WILL STILL PROCESS AND RECEIVE THEIR VACCINE AND NO CHARGE FOR THAT.

WHEN YOU BROUGHT THAT UP, ABOUT THE HOMEBOUND, I WANT TO ENSURE THAT THE FOLKS LISTENING IN HAD THIS NUMBER 833-5 833-521-2766. THAT IS A REGISTRATION IF YOU ARE HOME BOUND. CALL AND LET US KNOW AND WE WILL SCHEDULE YOU FOR A H HOME-BOUND CLINIC.

AS THE JUDGE SAID, WE ARE WORKING TO PUT THIS TOGETHER TO FACILITATE TO GIVE THE VACCINE TO FOLKS WHO ARE MOB

MOBILITY-CHALLENGED. >> JUDGE BECERRA: I WOULD LIKE TO REITERATE THAT PHONE NUMBER SHOULD BE USED FOR THOSE FOLKS THAT DON'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO MOVE TO A VACCINATION.

IT IS KIND OF LIKE THE VIDEOS I CREATED ASKING FOLKS THAT DON'T HAVE THE INTERNET TO CALL A NUMBER.

LET'S LEAVE THAT PHONE NUMBER FOR THE FOLKS THAT TRULY NEED A LIVE PERSON. AND NOT JUST CIRCUMVENTING AN OPTION THAT MAY NOT BE AS KIND TO THEM POTENTIALLY.

AND SO THE NUMBER THAT MR. JONES HAS JUST CALLED OUT WHICH I WILL ASK HIM TO READ AGAIN IS TRULY -- LET'S HELP OUR MOST VULNERABLE. IT IS TRULY INTENDED FOR THEM.

LET'S LEAVE IT FOR THEM IDEALLY PLEASE.

SAY THAT NUMBER ONE MORE TIME. >> I SURE CAN.

I WANT TO EMPHASIZE TUESDAY THROUGH THURSDAY FROM 12 UNTIL 4:00 THAT NUMBER IS MANNED BY A HUMAN BEING 833-521-2766.

12 TO 4:00, TUESDAY THROUGH THURSDAY.

>> JUDGE BECERRA: THANK YOU, COMMISSIONERS, ANY QUESTIONS

FOR MR. JONES? >> DEBBIE INGALSBE: I DO.

THE WALK-UP CLINICS HELD AT THE LIVE OAK.

IS THERE A LIMITED NUMBER OF DOSES THAT WILL BE AVAILABLE

EACH DAY? >> THERE ARE A LIMITED NUMBER DOSES. TAMMY, DO YOU HAVE THAT NUMBER?

>> ON THE 15TH THERE WILL BE 500 DOSES OF PFIZER, 19 AND 20 COMBINED 1200 DOSES SO 600 EACH DAY.

ON MAY 3 AND 4, THERE ARE ANOTHER 1200 DOSES.

SO 600 DOSES EACH DAY. >> DEBBIE INGALSBE: THANK YOU.

>> JUDGE BECERRA: COMMISSIONER JONES.

>> MARK JONES: I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR DOING THE HOMEBOUND.

SEVERAL PHARMACISTS WHO ARE TAKING THEIR TIME TO DO THAT.

>> JUDGE BECERRA: COMMISSIONER SHELL?

COMMISSIONER SMITH? >> WALT SMITH: TWO QUESTIONS OF MAY LOSE 12 AND 290 FOR THE CURATIVE TESTING FACILITY WE HAVE AT THE END OF THE MONTH. ONCE FINDING THAT OUT, WE PROBABLY NEED TO FIND A NEW LOCATION FOR THAT IF WE ARE GOING TO CONTINUE TO PROVIDE THAT SERVICE.

THE OTHER QUESTION WAS GIVEN THE VACCINES THAT WE HAVE GOTTEN SO FAR, HAVE WE GOTTEN ANY OF THE J & J VACCINE.

AND IF NOT, WILL THAT CAUSE AN ISSUE IN THE SUPPLY -- SINCE THE FDA SAID THEY WANT TO PUT AN HOLD OF ADMINISTERING IT.

>> WE HAVEN'T RECEIVED THE JOHNSON & JOHNSON AND KIND OF GLAD WE DIDN'T BECAUSE DON'T PUT A HINDRANCE TO OUR PLANS.

>> ONLY GIVEN PFIZER. >> THAT IS WHAT MY QUESTION W

WAS. >> WE WERE GOING TO USE THE JOHNSON & JOHNSON FOR THE H HOMEBOUND.

AND THINGS MOVE SLOW FOR A REASON AND SOMETIMES WE DON'T

UNDERSTAND. >> GOD'S TIMING.

>> AND I THINK THERE IS ANOTHER ONE THAT WORKS THAT HAVE BEEN TOLD AT LEAST THIS MORNING THAT THEY ARE GOING TO PULL AS WELL, THE ASTRAZENECA SINGLE SHOT AS WELL.

SO I -- IF WE BEGIN TO SEE ANY OF THOSE, I WANT TO MAKE SURE IT DOESN'T EFFECT OUR SUPPLY CHAIN.

>> YEAH, I DIDN'T SAY IT EARLIER, BUT TO DATE, OVER 106,000 FOLKS IN THIS COUNTY RECEIVED AT LEAST A FIRST SHOT.

>> WE ARE MOVING THROUGH IT AND REALLY ARE AND IN HUGE PART BECAUSE OF OUR PUBLIC-PRIVATE PARTNERSHIPS AND ABSOLUTELY OUR COUNTY TEAM LIKE MIKE JONES, OFFICE OF EMERGENCY SERVICES,

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EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT, FIRST RESPONDERS, ALL OF THE ABOVE.

THE LITANY OF SUPPORT THAT HAS BEEN POURED OUT TO ACCOMPLISH THIS TASK. IT IS HUGE AND REWARDING AND HEARTWARMING TO SEE THE COMMUNITY COMING TOGETHER IN SUCH AN UNIQUELY PANDEMIC WAY, RIGHT.

SUCH AN UNIQUE OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO COME TOGETHER AS A PEOPLE AND I AM GRATEFUL TO BE TOGETHER AS A WITNESS.

>> CAN I FOLLOW UP WITH THE STATEMENT.

106,000 PEOPLE DOES THAT INCLUDE INDIVIDUALS THAT CAME FROM OUT OF COUNTY? OR JUST SOLELY HAYS CUNTY.

>> STRICTLY HAYS COUNTY RESIDENTS.

SOME OF THEM WENT TO RECEIVE THEIR FIRST DOSE, SAY, IN AUSTIN OR SAN ANTONIO. SO THE STATE IS TRACKING THE RESIDENCY IN THAT RESPECT, BECAUSE WE HAVE SEEN QUITE A FEW FOLKS FROM TRAVIS AND SAN ANTONIO AS WELL.

I KNOW WHEN WE FIRST HAD THAT DISCUSSION, WE GOT TO TAKE CARE OF OTHER PEOPLE OUTSIDE THE COUNTY.

IT WORK ITSELF OUT IN THE WASH. A TRUE TESTAMENT OF TEXANS COMING TOGETHER AS TEXANS TO HELP EACH OTHER.

>> DEBBIE INGALSBE: THANK YOU. >> THE NUMBER COUNT HAYS COUNTY CITIZENS THAT HAD IT OUTSIDE THE COUNTY?

[12. Authorize the Hays County Office of Emergency Services to lease a 2022 Ford F-350 XL 4x4 Crew Cab with standard and aftermarket options and amend the budget accordingly. BECERRA/MIKE JONES]

>> EXACTLY RIGHT. >> THANK YOU, WILL JONES.

>> JUDGE BECERRA: OPEN AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 12.

>> 12, AUTHORIZE THE HAYS COUNTY OFFICE OF EMERGENCY SERVICES TO LEASE A 2022 FORD F-350 XL 4 X 4 CREW CAB WITH STANDARD AND AFTERMARKET OPTIONS AND AMEND THE BUDGET

ACCORDINGLY. >> SO MOVED.

>> SECOND. >> JUDGE BECERRA: A MOTION AND A SECOND AND ONE PERSON SIGNED UP TO SPEAK.

MR. RODRIGO AMAYA. TWO PEOPLE.

>> THANK YOU, JUDGE, COMMISSIONERS.

THIS ITEM WAS BROUGHT UP TO THE COURT A COUPLE OF WEEKS BACK.

TABLED IT I THINK LAST TIME 2 250.

NOW A F-350. XL 4 X 4 CREW CAB.

AGAIN, HOW DO YOU JUSTIFY THIS? LAST TIME THE JUSTIFICATION WAS I WANT MY DEPARTMENT TO HAVE THIS TRUCK BECAUSE TRANSPORTING A WATER BOTTLE ON OUR PERSONAL VEHICLES.

SO THE COMMISSIONERS HAS SEEN THAT VAN PARKED OUT THERE.

I DON'T KNOW HOW LONG IT HAS BEEN THERE.

I DON'T KNOW IF IT RUNS OR ANYTHING.

IT IS A JUNK VEHICLE BY DEFINITION OF THE CODE ENFORCEMENT OF SAN MARCOS. AND GO TO THE GOVERNMENT CENTER IN THE BACK, OFF GRAVEYARD OUT THERE FOR ALL KIND OF CARS AND ALL THAT STUFF. TO BE EFFICIENT AND CONSIDERATE CONSIDERING THE COMPLAINTS OF ALL THE SPENDING THAT YOU APPROVED. THERE IS NO NEED FOR THIS.

YOU CAN'T JUSTIFY A F-350. YOU COULDN'T JUSTIFY A F-250.

JUST BECAUSE A DEPARTMENT HEAD WANTS HIS OWN AND NOT ASKING OTHER DEPARTMENTS TO BORROW IT. WHAT HAPPENED WORKING WITH A TEAM TO GET THE MISSION ACCOMPLISHED.

EVERYBODY WANTS THEIR OWN TH THING? WE ARE SUPPOSED TO BE INDIVIDUALS.

THIS IS A TEAM EFFORT. THE PUBLIC IS THE ONE THAT F FLIPS THE BILL. $722 MILLION.

I DON'T CARE IF IT IS A LEASE. THAT LEASE PROGRAM WITH THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE WAS A BIG OL' MESS.

SO I AM EXPECTING THE SAME THING HERE, YOU KNOW.

YOU CAN'T JUSTIFY THIS, COMMISSIONERS, YOU CAN'T.

NO NEED FOR F-350 CREW CAB XL AFTERMARKET OPTIONS NO MATTER HOW MUCH YOU TRY MASS IT CAN NICELY AND STUFF.

I AM NOT CONVINCED. YOU CAN NOT JUSTIFY THIS PURCHASE. THANK YOU.

>> JUDGE BECERRA: THANK YOU, MR. AMAYO.

THE NEXT SPEAKER IS THERE DAN LYON.

>> THANK YOU, JUDGE. I WANT TO ECHO WHAT MR. AMAYA SAID. I AM CURRENTLY DRIVING AROUND A 2002 NISSAN PATHFINDER. IT IS NOT IN GOOD SHAPE.

I WOULD CERTAINLY LIKE A BR BRAND-NEW TRUCK.

BUT I CAN'T AFFORD IT BECAUSE I HAVE TO PAY FOR ALL THIS GARBAGE THAT Y'ALL ARE BUYING NOW.

YOU ARE SAYING IT IS NOT GARBAGE.

I UNDERSTAND THAT, IT IS NOT. IT COSTS A LOT OF MONEY TOO.

LET'S GO DOWN SEE HOW MUCH IT DOES COST.

RIGHT OFF THE BAT, JUST THE PLAIN TRUCK WITH NOTHING ADDED TO IT LOOKS LIKE IT IS $49 $49,158.14.

BUT YOU DECIDED TO ADD SOME AFTERMARKET EQUIPMENT TO IT.

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AND IT LOOKS LIKE LIGHTING, $495.

LEGACY AUTO TRANSPORTER. I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THAT IS, $350. LEGACY TRUCK BED ACCESSORIES.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT IS EITHER.

$2445. 37.

SO YOUR TOTAL AFTERMARKET EQUIPMENT BUILD IS $790 ON TOP OF THAT $41,000. LET'S SEE.

TOTAL OPTIONS IT SAYS RIGHT HERE IS $12,007.

DO WE NEED THESE OPTIONS? IT'S GOT ALL THE SELECTED OPTIONS HERE. I WILL JUST GO OVER -- OVER A FEW YEAR. ENGINE, 6.7-LITER, FOUR VALVE, V-8 DIESEL V 20. WHY DO WE NEED SUCH AN EXOTIC MOTOR FOR THIS. GO DOWN TO POWER WINDOWS.

WE NEED POWER WINDOWS. YOU CAN'T ROLL DOWN THE WINDOWS YOURSELF? ANYBODY WHOEVER OPERATES AROUND WATER WHICH I ASSUME AN EMERGENCY VEHICLE WOULD, YOU DON'T WANT POWER WINDOWS. IT'S THE SAFETY PROBLEM.

IF YOU LOSE POWER ON YOUR VEHICLE, YOU CAN'T GET THOSE WINDOWS DOWN. WE NEED TO GO BACK TO, YOU KNOW, JUST THE MANUAL WINDOWS. NOT SAYING I REALLY BELIEVE WE NEED THIS VEHICLE, I DON'T. BUT BEING EMERGENCY SERVICES IF THERE IS AN ACTUAL EMERGENCY, ALL -- ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS COMMON DEER ONE OF THE VEHICLES THAT THE -- COMMANDEER ONE OF THE VEHICLES AND IT HAS ONES TO USE.

FRONT AND REAR CUP HOLDER. THE ENTERTAINMENT FEATURE, RADIO, AM-FM STEREO. VOICE-ACTIVATED RADIO.

STEERING WHEEL RADIO CONTROLS, STEREO MOUNTED AUDIO CONTROL.

SPEAKER, FOUR SPEAKERS, TINTED WINDOWS.

THIS IS CLEAR. THIS IS SOMETHING SOMETHING TO SPEND ON BECAUSE SOMEBODY WANTS IT.

NOT BECAUSE WE NEED IT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> JUDGE BECERRA: THANK YOU, MR. DAN LION.

AS THE DIRECTOR OF MACHINE MANAGEMENT FOR HAYS COUNTY, I HAVE SEEN FIRST HAND SOME OF THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN BROUGHT UP, AND IN AN EMERGENCY, I KNOW LIKE NEVER BEFORE, THAT WHEN YOU HAVE AN EMERGENCY AND YOU NEED SOMETHING, SO DOES EVERYONE ELSE. AND SO A FLEET OF ROAD DEPARTMENT VEHICLES THAT WE MANAGE THAT WERE ALL OUT AND I SAW OUR TEAM CAPTURING WATER THE LAST EVENT.

CAPTURING WATER FROM DALLAS, FEDERAL MANAGEMENT MANAGEMENT AND FOLKS WERE GOING IN THEIR PERSONAL VEHICLES TO GRAB PALETTES. AND I AM SORRY, BUT I KNOW MR. JONES CAME IN HIS PERSONAL TRUCK, AND IT SHOULD HAVE -- IT SHOULD HAVE NOT BEEN THAT WAY. AND WE DIDN'T HAVE AND WE DON'T HAVE THE OPPORTUNITIES TO TO DO-OVERS IN THE MIDDLE OF IT, BUT AFTER -- AFTER ACTION REPORTS ARE USEFUL BECAUSE SHOW US VULNERABILITIES AND IN THE COMMUNITY AND THIS ISN'T A VEHICLE THAT OUR DIRECTOR WILL BE DRIVING DAY TO DAY.

HE HAS A -- HE IS VERY HAPPY WITH THE EMERGENCY VEHICLE THAT HE HAS AND VERY HAPPY WITH THE OLDER ONE BEFORE.

WE ARE THE ONES THAT PUSHED HIM INTO THE NEXT ONE SPECIFICALLY FURTHERMORE AN EMERGENCY TRAIL THEIR NEEDS TO BE PULLED AND EMBARRASSINGLY ENOUGH, THERE IS NOTHING IN OUR DEPARTMENT THAT CAN PULL IT. WE HAVE A TRAILER AND NOTHING TO PULL IT AND THE UPTICK IN THE SIZE WAS BECAUSE OF THE ACTUAL NEED BECAUSE OF THE WEIGHT OF THE VEHICLE.

COMMISSIONER JONES, I DON'T HAVE TO TELL YOU A THING ABOUT TOWING. SOME OF THE FEATURES POINTED OUT BY MR. LYON, I APPRECIATE. I HAVE A DAILY DRIVER 1990 TRUCK WITH QUARTER OF A MILLION MILES AND I AM PEACEFUL AND HAS MANUAL WINDOW, NO RADIO, NO CRUISE CONTROL, LITTLE BABY 4 CYLINDER BUT THERE IS A CERTAIN LEVEL OF THINGS THAT COME WITH

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A VEHICLE NOW A DAYS IF YOU BUY A MODERN VEHICLE, WHICH MY TRUCK IS NOT, THAT WILL AUTOMATICALLY COME WITH THE CONTROLS ON THE STEERING WHEEL. YOU CAN'T ASK FOR THEM TO BE REMOVED BECAUSE THAT IS JUST HOW IT COMES.

SO A LOT OF THOSE SITUATIONS WHERE THE EXPLANATION IS THAT IS THE NEW STOCK VEHICLE. AND I KNOW THAT THE EXTRA PIECES ARE NECESSARY SO WE DON'T HAVE A VEHICLE THAT ISN'T PROPERLY IDENTIFIED OR PROPERLY CREDENTIALED OR WITH THE PROPER EQUIPMENT TO MOVE THROUGH AN EMERGENCY.

SO IF I LEFT ANYTHING OUT, I WOULD LIKE TO ASK OUR MIKE JONES TO APPROACH THE PODIUM AND EXPAND ON IT FURTHER.

OR IF THE COMMISSIONERS HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, THEN WE

CAN MOVE ON. >> MIKE JONES, DIRECTOR OF EMERGENCY SERVICES. I THINK YOU WERE SUCCINCT AND EXPLAINING. OUR COMMAND TRAILER.

20,000-POUND TRAILER TO HAVE IT OUT AND BE READY TO RESPOND WHEN THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT OR FIRE DEPARTMENT NEEDS IT THAT THIS TRUCK IS CRITICAL -- NOT SO MUCH HAVING A VEHICLE THAT CAN TOW IT, BUT A VIDEO THAT WILL RESTRAIN THE -- STAND THE TRAIN. AND I WILL BE SUCCESSFUL MAYBE ONCE, BUT EVENTUALLY TEAR UP THAT TRANSMISSION.

I APPRECIATE THE COMMENTS FROM OUR CITIZENS HERE.

I RESPECT AND ADMIRE THEM BOTH, BUT THE REALITY IS THERE ARE THINGS THAT THEY DON'T GET TO SEE ON INSIDE THAT WE DO AND WE ARE NOT ALWAYS LOOKING FOR THE ACCOLADES AND OUR JOB IS TO RESPOND AND GET RESOURCES, MATERIALS OUT THERE TO THE CITIZENS AND TO THE FIRST RESPONDERS AND WALK AWAY AND

CALL IT A GOOD DAY. >> COMMISSIONERS, ANY

QUESTIONS FOR MR. JONES? >> I WILL SAY THAT WE ARE USING THE EXAMPLE WHEN TALKING OF THE EXAMPLE OF A FEW WEEKS AGO OR A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO AND I HAVE MORE CONCERN OVER THE DAY-TO-DAY USE THAT WE HAVE TO HAVE THOSE EMERGENCY RESPONSE TRAILERS FOR. I CAN TELL YOU -- I KNOW ALL OF Y'ALL REMEMBER WHEN WE HAD THE ROLLOVER AT THE DOUBLE CROSSING ON 150, WE HAD A TRUCK THAT WAS 130 FOOT LONG, SOMETHING LIKE THAT. HAD FIVE DUMP TRUCKS ROLLED OVER IN A LOW WATER CROSSING AND WE HAD TO STAGE THAT TRAILER THERE FOR TWO DAYS. THOSE CALLOUTS FOR 2:00 IN THE MORNING. WE DON'T HAVE THE TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT -- RIGHT NOW THE ONLY THING THEY HAVE THAT CAN PULL THAT TRAILER IS A DUMP TRUCK AND WE DON'T HAVE A DUMP TRUCK THAT WE CAN COMMANDEER FROM THE TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT TO TRY TO HANDLE THOSE THINGS.

AS YOU ALL KNOW, JUDGE AND I DON'T AGREE WITH A LOT OF THINGS BUT I AGREE WITH HIM ON THIS.

IT IS NEED AND I SAW THE NEED FOR IT DURING THAT SPECI SPECIFICLLY, BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, THE ONE THING THAT MIGHT SURPRISE OUR CITIZENRY WHAT QUESTION IN OUR FLEET.

NOT COUNTING OUR BRUSH TRUCKS. BUT IF WE LOOK AT OUR TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT, THEY HAVE ONE FOUR-WHEEL DRIVE VEHICLE AND WE CAN'T EXPECT THEM TO PROVIDE SERVICE TO US ON EVERY EMERGENCY. WE CAN'T.

I AM SUPPORTIVE OF THIS. >> JUDGE BECERRA: COMMISSIONER

SHELL. >> LON SHELL: WE TALKED ABOUT THIS PREVIOUSLY. MY ONLY QUESTION WHAT WAS THE DIFFERENCE OF F-250, GAS AND F-350, DIESEL.

WAS THE TOWING CAPACITY OF THE F-250.

I KNOW THEY PUT HEAVY DUTY TRANSMISSION.

WAS THAT IS A CONSIDERING. >> THAT WAS CONSIDERING.

TJ IS MY SPECIAL OPERATIONS AND ALSO A FIRE FIGHTER.

HE POINTED OUT TO ME YOU GET A GAS, YOU WILL BE REPLACING THIS LATER ON AND WON'T HAVE THE CAPACITY WE WANT TO DO -- FOR THE ENTIRE OFFICE. YOU WILL NEED A DIESEL 350.

BECAUSE HE WANTED A 450. I SAID NO, TURN THIS DOWN.

I WANT TO DO WHAT WE NEED TO DO AND WE NEED TO ASK THE TAXPAYERS TO PAY FOR IT. WE LOOKED AT EVERYTHING HE SAID THE 350 COULD HANDLE THE 20 20,000-POUND TRAILER AND OTHER FOR HAZARDOUS MATERIAL RESPONSES AS WELL.

>> JUDGE BECERRA: ANYTHING ELSE, COMMISSIONER.

>> THIS ITEM REQUIRES A BUDGET AMENDMENT FOR $12,995 FOR THIS FISCAL YEAR FOR EQUIPMENT AND THE LEASE AND MAINTENANCE AND REPAIRS. IF IT IS APPROVED, WE ARE SUGGESTING FUNDING TO COME FROM CONTINGENCIES.

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>> JUDGE BECERRA: OKAY. 12,000 ADDITION SAL TO COME TO

CONTINGENCIES. >> AMEND MY MOTION TO CHANGE THE BUDGET TO ALLOW FOR CONTINGENCIES.

>> JUDGE BECERRA: THE MOTION HAS BEEN AMENDED TO APPROVE THAT CONTINGENCY AMENDMENT TO THE JUDGE AMENDMENT.

DR. CARDENAS, PLEASE CALL THE ROLE.

>> MARK JONES: YES. >> LON SHELL: YES.

>> DEBBIE INGALSBE: YES. >> WALT SMITH: YES.

[16. Approve out of state travel for Sergeant Juan Villarreal, Corporal Benjamin Gieselman, and Deputy Adam Krueger to attend the FEMA Field Force Operations and Bombing Prevention Awareness Course on May 10-15, 2021 in Anniston, Alabama. INGALSBE/CUTLER]

>> JUDGE BECERRA: YES. PLEASE OPEN AGENDA ITEM NUMBER

16. >> 16, APPROVE OUT-OF-STATE TRAVEL FOR SERGEANT JUAN VILLARREAL, CORPORAL BENJAMIN GIESELMAN AND DEPUTY ADAM KRUEGER TO ATTEND THE FEMA FIELDS FOR OPERATIONS AND BOMB PREVENTION AWARENESS COURSE ON MAY 10-15, 2021 IN ANNISTON ALABAMA.

>> JUDGE BECERRA: TWO SIGNED UP TO SPEAK.

AM A YA AND TODD FOLLOWED BY MR. DAN LYON.

>> HERE I AM. SAME CONCERN, FOLKS.

COUPLE OF BABIES BACK, YOU APPROVED THAT OUT-OF-STATE TRAVEL FOR THE MOTOR VEHICLE -- WE ARE CAPTAIN CUMBERLAND STATEMENT MOTOR VEHICLE TRAINING IN COLORADO.

COUPLE OF DAYS LATER, TALKING TO ONE OF MY BUDDIES WHO DOES THE T OWING BUSINESS IN THE BUDA AREA, COMAL COUNTY, TRAINING WAS BEING DONE IN HIS YARD.

THAT IS AN EFFICIENT WAY TO DO BUSINESS.

THEY WERE HAPPY WITH IT. I DEAL A LOT COMAL COUNTY.

TALK TOGETHER SHERIFF A COUPLE OF MONTHS BACK.

THE DA TRIED TO PUT IN JAIL OVER DOORKNOB ON THE DOOR.

THAT IS ACCOUNTABLE. -- ACCOUNTABILITY.

THAT IS WHAT WE NEED HERE. YOU DON'T NEED THIS.

YOU CAN'T JUSTIFY IT. I REPEATEDLY TOLD YOU WHO IS SUBMITTING THESE REQUESTS. YOU HELP THESE INDIVIDUALS JUSTIFY THEM AND GUIDE THEM WITH THE WORDS, IT REALLY UPSETS ME, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE THINGS THAT YOU ALL DO WHEN THESE SPEAKERS COME UP HERE TO TRY TO JUSTIFY THESE THINGS.

YOU ARE VERY HAPPY WITH THE LITTLE SHALLOW RESPONSES.

WE NEED IT FOR PUBLIC SAFETY. YOU MASK THINGS THIS WAYS THAT ARE SO OBVIOUS. AND IT'S VERY -- IT IS COSTING US MILLIONS OF DOLLARS. THESE FOLKS COME UP HERE AND SAY, OH, WE NEED IT, PUBLIC SAFETY.

BOOM, APPROVED. THAT IS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU DON'T KNOW REALLY WHAT IS BEING ASKED.

YOU JUST RUBBER STAMP STUFF SO YOU CAN BE -- STAY GOOD FRI FRIENDS. THIS IS WHAT IS HAPPENING.

IT HAPPENS OVER AND OVER. I HAVE NOT SEEN ONE INDIVIDUAL, LIKE EARLIER, WHEN YOU ASKED QUESTIONS AND GOT AWAY AND GOOGLE THE INFORMATION. BUT WHEN I AM USED TO LEADERSHIP GUIDING ME IS WHEN I AM ASKING SOMETHING, THEY SPIT IT RIGHT OUT WITHOUT ANY HIS TAKE.

THAT IS SOMEONE WHO HAS CONFIDENCE.

THAT IS LACKING HERE. DON'T APPROVE THIS.

COVID. WE WANT OUR GUYS SAFE.

I DON'T KNOW WHEN THE LAST TIME WE HAD BOMBING SITUATION HERE, BUT FIND OUT HOW MANY BOMBING THREATS WE HAD HERE.

THANK YOU. >> JUDGE BECERRA: THANK YOU, MR. AMAYA. AND THE SECOND SPEAKER MR. DAN

LYON. >> THANK YOU, JUDGE BECERRA.

FEMA IS PAYING FOR ALL THIS. THEY ARE NOT PAYING FOR THESE THREE OFFICERS' HEALTH INSURANCE OR OVERTIME OR THEY ARE NOT PAYING FOR THE DISRUPTION THAT IS GOING TO BE OCCUR BECAUSE OF THEIR ABSENCE AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

SO IT IS NOT COMPLETELY FREE. ALL RIGHT.

ANYWAY LET ME READ THE SUMMARY, OUT-OF-STATE TRAVEL FOR SERGEANT JUAN VILLARREAL AND CORPORATE BENJAMIN GIESELMAN AND DEPUTY ADAM KRUEGER TO ATTEND THE FEMA FIELD FORCE OPERATIONS AND BOMBING PREVENTION AWARENESS COURSE MAY 10-15, 2021 ANNISTON, ALABAMA. PROVIDES FOR PROTESTS TYPES AND

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ACTIONS, LEGAL CONSIDERATIONS, RESPONSIBILITIES OF MOBILE FIELD FORCE TEAMS AND CROWD CONTROL METHODS.

THE COURSE CULMINATES WITH A SERIES OF HANDS ON ACTIVITIES THAT ALLOW RESPONDERS TO PRACTICE ALL THE LEARNED -- OF THE LEARNED KILLS. HOLDING POSITIONS, MASS ARREST AND PROCEDURES AND RIOT CONTROL FORMATIONS.

IN A REALISTIC CONTEST. THIS -- CONTEXT.

THIS COURSE WILL BE BENEFICIAL FOR THE COMMAND AND CONTROL ELEMENT OF THE STRIKES TEAM TO OBTAIN FEMA CERTIFICATION AND TO HONE THEIR SKILLS ON HOW TO PROPERLY DEAL WITH CIVIL UN UNREST. THE BOMBING PREVENTION AWARENESS COURSE PROVIDES AN INTRODUCTION TO THE TERRORISTIC ATTACK CYCLE, IEDS, HOMEMADE EXPLOSIVES AND RESPONSE TO SUSPICIOUS BEHAVIORS AND ITEMS AND MAKING BASIC AWARENESS OF BOMBING PREVENTION MEASURES. FEMA WILL BE COVERING ALL FEES INCLUDING REGISTRATION LODGE ARE, PER DIEM AND AIRFARE AND OF NO COST TO THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE.

NOW FRANKLY, IT IS NOT FREE. THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT PAYS FOR IT, YOU AND ME. AND SO WE HAVE GOT TO CONSIDER THAT. DO WE REALLY NEED THIS IN HAYS COUNTY? BOMBING AWARENESS? I DON'T EVEN KNOW HOW TO BUILD A BOMB.

YOU KNOW, IF YOU STUCK A GUN TO MY HEAD, I COULDN'T BUILD A BOMB. AND MOST PEOPLE CAN'T, BUT I REALIZE THERE ARE THOSE THAT CAN.

BUT. ARE THEY SPECIFICALLY TARGETING HAYS COUNTY? I THINK NOT.

THE ONLY CROWD CONTROL FOR SAN MARCOS IF WE RAN OUT OF BEER FOR TEXAS STEAK THAT GO WILD. BUT THAT IS MY PERSONAL OPI OPINION. I DON'T SEE THE TYPES OF PEOPLE HERE IN THIS COUNTY THAT WE WOULD NEED THIS COURSE FOR.

BUT GOD KNOWS, MAN, IT'S UNLIMITED CHECK-WRITING ABILITY. YOU CAN DO IT IF YOU WANT TO.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> JUDGE BECERRA: THANK YOU MR. DAN LYON. COMMISSIONER INGALSBE.

AND THE SHERIFF IS HERE IF HE WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THE ITEM OR GO STRAIGHT TO YOU. WHATEVER WOULD YOU LIKE.

>> DEBBIE INGALSBE: WELL, JUDGE, I DON'T KNOW IF THERE IS ANY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS THAT WE NEED.

>> JUDGE BECERRA: I ALWAYS GIVE THE COMMISSIONER WHO SPONSORS THE OPPORTUNITY TO START THE COMMENTS.

IF THERE ARE ANY. >> DEBBIE INGALSBE: AND APPRECIATE IT. I THINK WE ALWAYS TRY OUR BEST TO HAVE OUR EMPLOYEES AND LAW ENFORCEMENT GET AS MUCH TRAINING AS THEY CAN IN THE EVENT SOMETHING LIKE THIS HAPPENS. I DON'T KNOW IF IT IS NECESSARILY JUST FOR HAYS COUNTY.

MANY TIMES WE ARE CALLED OUT TO OTHER COUNTIES AND OTHER JUROR DICTIONS, AND. WE WILL HAVE EMPLOYEES THAT ARE

TRAINED IN THAT AREA, SO -- >> JUDGE BECERRA: SHERIFF, DO YOU CARE TO SAY ANYTHING. YOU DON'T HAVE TO, BUT I WANTED TO GIVE YOU THE OPPORTUNITY. YOU ARE GOOD? OKAY. I WILL ADD TO IT, BUT JUST TO REITERATE, I ALWAYS TRY TO GIVE THE COMMISSIONER WHO SPONSORED THE AGENDA ITEM TO HAVE A COMMENT IF THEY CHOOSE TO.

IT IS NOT NECESSARY. BUT I UNDERSTAND THE IMPORTANCE OF TRAINING AND A WELL-TRAINED TEAM.

AND DURING ALL THE PAST SIX MONTHS, WE HAVE HAD A LOT OF TENSION IN OUR COMMUNITIES AND OUR REGION AND OUR STATE AND OUR NATION. AND I UNDERSTAND UPDATING TRAINING BECAUSE IF WE STAY WITH OLD WAYS, HOWEVER MUCH WE MAY WANT TO BECAUSE IT IS COMFORTABLE, OLD WAYS SOMETIME ARE NEEDING AN UPDATE. SO THIS PROVIDES AN UPDATE TO USE LATEST AND GREATEST FEDERAL EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT TRAINING SO WE AS A NATION HAVE ALL OF OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT TRAINED TO THE SAME S PECS, TO THE SAME SMILE AND TECHNIQUES.

WE HEAR SO MUCH ABOUT CH COKEHOLDS AND THINGS ON THE NEWS AND WE BECOME EXPERTS FROM THE MEDIA AND THE REAL RUBBER HITS THE ROAD IN MY OPINION AND HOW WE SHOULD REALLY SUPPORT OUR FRONT LINE IN THIS TRAINING SO THEY CAN BE THE BEST THAT WE EXPECT THEM TO BE IN VERY STRESSFUL TIMES.

AND SO, I HAVE -- WHEN IT COMES TO TRAINING, I HAVE NO PROBLEM IN BECOMING FULLY SUPPORTIVE OF ANYTHING THAT YOU EVER BRING FORWARD. SO THERE IS MY TWO CENTS.

IF NOT, DR. CARDENAS. >> LON SHELL: YES.

>> WALT SMITH: YES. >> DEBBIE INGALSBE: YES.

>> MARK JONES: YES. >> JUDGE BECERRA: YES.

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WILL YOU PLEASE OPEN -- I AM PLUCKING THROUGH THE PEOPLE'S PUBLIC COMMENT SECTION JUST SO PEOPLE UNDERSTAND WHAT I AM

[20. Authorize the Sheriff's Office Jail Division to use existing funds to purchase a sewer video camera valued at $840.00 and amend the budget accordingly. INGALSBE/CUTLER]

GOING THROUGH. AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 20.

>> 20. AUTHORIZE THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE JAIL DIVISION TO USE EXISTING FUNDS TO PURCHASE A SEWER VIDEO CAMERA VALUED AT $840 AND AMEND THE BUDGET ACCORDINGLY.

>> DEBBIE INGALSBE: SO MOVED. >> SECOND.

>> JUDGE BECERRA: A MOTION AND A SECOND.

AND WE HAVE ONE PERSON SIGNED UP TO SPEAK.

MR. RODRIGO AMAYA. >> SEWER CAMERA.

, $840 FOR A SEWER CAMERA. I AM CURIOUS IF THIS IS A RESULT OF THE RAPID DEPLOYMENT OF THE STANDARD COMMISSION ABOUT THE ALLEGATIONS ABOUT THE TREATMENT PLANT THAT THE SHERIFF SET UP THERE. DOES THIS HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH THE TREAT PLANT? NEED SOMEBODY TO MONITOR ALL OF AT THAT STUFF THAT IS BEING DISCHARGED IN THE BLANCO RIVER.

I SWIM OUT THERE. I USED TO FISH.

NOT ANYMORE. A LOT OF THE STUFF COMMI COMMISSIONER, JUDGE, Y'ALL GIVE YOUR OPINION ON IT, AND I WITH MY 15 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE FROM 14,000 HOURS OF TECO TRAINING.

I HAVE A LOT OF PROBLEM -- LOOK AT THAT ROOM RIGHT NOW.

LOOK HOW MANY GUNS AND SALARIES THESE INDIVIDUALS ARE COSTING US SITTING HERE RIGHT NOW. SOME OF THESE OFFICERS ARE SO CLEAN THEY BELONG IN THE TROPHY CASE -- NO NICE AND CLEAN.

CONSIDER WHO IS ASKING FOR THE SEWER VIDEO CAMERA AND WHY.

THIS IS THE FIRST I EVER HEARD ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

CAMEL COUNTY SHERIFF WAS LOOKED AT THE DA FOR A DOORKNOB.

WHAT THE SHERIFF TOLD ME. TRY TO PUT ME IN MY OWN JAIL.

THAT ACCOUNTABILITY -- I SEE YOU WRITING AND -- I WANT TO KNOW WHAT Y'ALL WRITING. I REALLY DO.

AND A LOT OF THIS STUFF THAT COME UP HERE, I HAVE TAKEN THE TIME. I LOSE MONEY CHANGING MY SCHEDULE TO COME OUT HERE BECAUSE I CARE ABOUT THIS COUNTY AND THE $722 MILLION THAT YOU COST AND ALLOWED THESE INDIVIDUALS TO TOP INTO AND JUST RECKLESSLY ISSUE OUT THIS MONEY FOR THESE KIND OF RIDICULOUS REQUESTS.

I MEAN, YOU CAN'T JUSTIFY IT. GIVE IT A THUMBS DOWN.

DO SOMETHING FOR THE CITIZENS FOR ONCE.

AS AN ENTIRE COUNTY, DO THE RIGHT THING.

DON'T APPROVE THIS. THERE HAS GOT TO BE OTHER WAYS TO CHECK THE SITUATION AND WHATEVER.

HOW MANY TIMES DO YOU THINK THEY ARE GOING TO USE THIS CAMERA? HOW MANY TIMES? I CAN KIND OF TELL YOU WHY THEY WANT IT.

I DON'T KNOW. AND JUST SUSPICIOUS AFTER THAT INSPECTION WITH THE TREATMENT PLANT THEY HAVE OVER HERE.

THANK YOU. >> JUDGE BECERRA: THANK YOU, SIR. COMMISSIONER?

>> DEBBIE INGALSBE: THANKS, JUDGE.

I HAVEN'T BEEN MADE AWARE OF SEVERAL INSTANCES WHERE THERE ARE ITEM THAT ARE FLUSHED DOWN THE TOILETS AND HAVE COST ISSUES OVER AT THE JAIL. AND SO I WOULD IMAGINE THAT THIS IS THE MAIN REASON WHY WE ARE ASKING FOR THIS PURCHASE.

I WOULD YIELD TO THE SHERIFF IF THERE ARE ANY ADDITIONAL -- ANY ADDITIONAL INFORMATION THAT NEEDS TO BE PROVIDED.

>> ALSO ALLOW US TO FIND A PROBLEM SOONER THAN TO CALL A CONTRACTOR OUT WILL COST MORE THAN $840.

AND SIN WE HAVE RECENT AND PAST CASES OF FOLKS FLUSHING DOWN TOILETS AND CAUSES A MAJOR ISSUE NOT JUST FOR OUR PLUMBING SYSTEM BUT FOR ALL THE OTHER INMATES THAT HAVE TO USE IT.

IF WE HAVE SOMETHING LIKE THIS THAT ALLOWS US TO SOLVE THE PROBLEM SOONER THAN THAT OBVIOUSLY MEANS THAT PEOPLE ARE ABLE TO USE THE BATHROOM SOONER THAN WAITING FOR A CONTRACTOR PAY MORE THAN THE $840 FOR THAT ONE SERVICE CALL UNDERSTANDING

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THAT WE MAY HAVE TO CALL A PLUMBER IF THE ISSUE IS MAJOR AND WE CAN'T FIX IT OURSELVES. I THINK THAT IS REASONABLE

THING TO DO. >> JUDGE BECERRA: YES, SIR, STATE YOUR NAME AND TIELE FOR THE VIEWING PUBLIC.

>> CAPTAIN SMITH, JAIL OPERATIONS.

>> THE COMMISSIONERS HIT IT ON THE HEAD.

EXPEDITE AND DETERMINE WHAT THE CLOG IS, BEST SOURCE OF ACTION TO ATTACK THAT CLOG. HOPEFULLY ELIMINATE THE NEED FOR CONTRACTING PLUMBING SERVICES AS THEY BECOME VERY EXPENSIVE AND VERY QUICKLY AND GET THE JAIL BACK IN OPERATION

VERY QUICKLY. >> JUDGE BECERRA: I GOT TO A ASK, DOES COUNTYWIDE OPERATIONS HAVE SOMETHING LIKE THIS.

>> WE DO NOT. >> JUDGE BECERRA: IF CAPTAIN SMITH WOULD LOAN IT IF THE NEED ARISES.

CAPTAIN SMITH WILL HAVE NO PROBLEM GIVING TO TAMMY CRUMLEY

TO USE. >> THANK YOU.

>> JUDGE BECERRA: IF NO OTHER COMMENTS, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

>> WALT SMITH: YES. >> DEBBIE INGALSBE: YES.

>> MARK JONES: YES. >> LON SHELL: YES.

>> JUDGE BECERRA: YES. AND WE COULD TAKE THESE IN A

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BLOCK FOR SHERIFF'S OFFICE, WHAT IS LEFT.

IF YOU WILL OPEN 17, 18 -- HOLD ON A SECOND -- 17, 18, 1921 -- AM I MISSING ANYTHING? 26.

I THINK THAT COVERS THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE.

YOU WANT ME TO REPEAT THEM? >> 17, RAH RATIFY THE ACCEPTANCE OF A $500 DONATION TO THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE CRIME VICTIM SERVICES PROGRAM AND AMEND THE BUDGET ACCORDINGLY.

18, RATIFY THE ACCEPTANCE OF A $375 DONATION TO THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE COMMUNITY OUTREACH DIVISION AND AMEND THE BUDGET ACCORDINGLY. 19, AUTHORIZE THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE JAIL DIVISION TO USE EXISTING FUNDS TO PURCHASE A SAFETY CAGE LADDER VALUED AT $3863 AND AMEND THE BUDGET ACCORDINGLY. 21, AUTHORIZE THE SUBMISSION OF A GRANT ACTION TO THE U.S. DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE, BUREAU OF JUSTICE ASSISTANCE FOR THE FC 2020 FUNDING UNDER THE STATE CRIMINAL ALIEN ASSISTANCE PROGRAM.

26, AUTHORIZE THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE TO REPLACE ONE DEL PRECISION 3640 COMPUTER VALENTINE'S DAY ULD AT 1227.32 FOR THE DISPATCH DIVISION AND AMEND THE BUDGET ACCORDINGLY.

>> DEBBIE INGALSBE: SO MOVED. >> SECOND.

>> JUDGE BECERRA: A MOTION AND A SECOND.

COMMISSIONER INGALSBE, ANYTHING WOULD YOU LIKE TO ADD?

>> DEBBIE INGALSBE: IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS, JUDGE, I WILL BE HAPPY TO TRY TO ANSWER THEM.

>> JUDGE BECERRA: DR. CAR CARDENAS, PLEASE CALL THE ROLE.

>> MARK JONES: YES. >> DEBBIE INGALSBE: YES, WALT

SMITH YES, >> LON SHELL: YES,

>> JUDGE BECERRA: YES. AND I SAW OUR TREASURER WALK IN. LET'S RATTLE OFF AGENDA ITEM.

THANK YOU, SHERIFF. LET'S RATTLE OFF AGENDA ITEM NUMBER TO ADDRESS. CAN YOU SAY THAT ONE MORE TIME? EXECUTIVE. RIGHT ON.

AGENDA ITEM FOR YOU? >> THE HISTORICAL COMMISSION

ONE. >> JUDGE BECERRA: JUST DOUBLE CHECKING. 29.

[29. Authorize payment to Enterprise FM Trust in the amount of $43,681.77 for Constable Pct. 1, Pct. 2 & Pct. 4 related to vehicle equipment in which no purchase order was issued as required per the County Purchasing Policy and amend the budget accordingly. INGALSBE/JONES/PETERSON/TORRES/HOOD]

PLEASE OPEN AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 29.

>> 29. AUTHORIZE PAYMENT TO INTERFREEZE FM TRUST IN THE AMOUNT OF $43,61.77 FOR CONSTABLE PRECINCT 1, PRECINCT 2, AND PRECINCT 4 RELATED TO VEHICLE EQUIPMENT IN WHICH NO PURCHASE ORDER WAGISH EWEED AS REQUIRED PER THE COUNTY PURCHASING POLICY AND AMEND THE

BUDGET ACCORDINGLY. >> SO MOVED.

>> SECOND. >> JUDGE BECERRA: MOTION AND A SECOND AND ONE PERSON SIGNED UP TO PEAK MR. RODRIGO AMAYA.

>> THANK YOU ALL AGAIN. NOTICE THERE HAVE BEEN MORE AND MORE OF THESE NO PURCHASE ORDER AND I WAS DISCUSSING WITH FOLKS

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THAT DEAL WITH THIS, AND THEY SAID THAT THE INDIVIDUAL THAT IS MAKING SURE THIS DOESN'T HAPPEN IS MISS ALONSO.

SO MY QUESTION IS HOW LONG IS THIS GOING TO CONTINUE? THESE CONSTABLES HAVE AMPLE TIME TO RUN AROUND AND DO JUST ABOUT NOTHING. AND, YOU KNOW, CONSTABLE PRECINCT 1 COUPLE OF WEEKS BACK CAME UP HERE IN OPEN COURT WAS ASKED TO STAND THROUGH AND TAKE A PICTURE.

HE SAID COMMISSIONER WAS, AS LONG AS THE JUDGE WASN'T IN IT.

I CALLED TECO TO REPORT THAT. AND SAID NEED TO TALK TO THE SUPERVISOR WHICH IS YOU. I REALIZE NOW THAT THE REASON I THINK IT IS FIXED IS BECAUSE YOU ARE ONE OF HIS DEPUTY ON STABLES. AND I FEEL THAT -- THAT COMPROMISED YOUR ABILITY TO REGULATE HIS BEHAVIOR.

COMMISSIONER HAD THAT DISCUSSION WITH RON HOOD.

DONE NOTHING ABOUT IT. THESE INDIVIDUALS A RUN AWAY EGO AND THEY FEEL IMMUNE FROM ANY RULES BECAUSE OF YOUR APPROACH TO CONCERNS THAT ARE BROUGHT.

LOOK WHAT HAPPENED IN KIMBERLY. FORMER CONSTABLE RAY HELM.

AND PRECINCT 2 CONSTABLE BUSTING DRUG AND ALL KIND OF STUFF. THE DUTIES OF THE CONSTABLE ARE SIMPLE. THEY ARE WRITTEN OUT IN STA STATUTE. THERE ARE A LOT OF DEVIATION FROM THOSE DUTIES THAT ARE WRITTEN OUT.

IT IS JEOPARDIZING OUR COUNTY TAX DOLLARS IN LAWSUITS.

THE CONSTABLES ARE ELECTED TO BE CIVIL SERVANTS.

YOU THOUGHT TO SEE -- PRECINCT 1.

I WATCH THEM RUN ALL OVER THE PLACE WITH TRAILERS AND ALL KIND OF STUFF AND NOT EVEN 5 5:00.

LAST TIME HE COMES UP IN -- NOT IN A UNIFORM.

ALWAYS A JUMPSUIT. THAT HAS GOT TO STOP.

WHERE IS THE ACCOUNTABILITY? ALL OF YOU ARE RESPONSIBLE WHAT IS HAPPENING, $722 MILLION IN DEBT BECAUSE YOU ALLOW THESE INDIVIDUALS TO DO AND GET AWAY WITH EVERYTHING THEY WANT.

THEY NEED TO DO A BETTER JOB. I ASKED Y'ALL TO DO IT.

YOU DON'T GIVE IT ANY EFFORT. THANK YOU.

>> JUDGE BECERRA: THANK YOU, MR. AMAYA.

COMMISSIONER INGALSBE. COMMISSIONER JONES.

>> MARK JONES: MORE TO DUE WITH THE DELAY OF THE DELIVERING OF THE VEHICLE. THEY WERE ORDERED LAST FISCAL YEAR AND THE ENTERPRISE PUT THAT EQUIPMENT IN THE SAME YEAR TO COINCIDE WITH THE DELIVERY AND I THINK THAT IS WHAT THE MIX-UP WAS. I DON'T THINK IT WAS ANYTHING INTENTIONAL BUT WHAT HAPPENS FROM ONE BUDGET CYCLE TO THE

OTHER. >> JUDGE BECERRA: BUT APPROVED

IN THE PREVIOUS BUDGET? >> RIGHT.

THIS IS FOR THE AMENDMENT I BELIEVE THAT NEEDS TO MAKE IT

FOR AN AUDIT TRAIL. >> DEBBIE INGALSBE: JUDGE, I JUST WANT TO SAY I APPRECIATE THE COMMENT THAT MR. AMAYA MADE OF ME BEING OVER CONTACT TRACING PRECINCT 1, BUT HE IS AN ELECTED. THE CITIZENS OF THE COUNTY ELECTED HIM. WE DO CONTROL THE DEPARTMENT'S BUDGETS, BUT I DO WANT TO CLARIFY THAT I CAN'T CONTROL

THE CONSTABLE. >> JUDGE BECERRA: THANK YOU, DR. CARDENAS, WILL YOU CALL THE ROLE.

>> UNLIKE PUBLIC COMMENT THIS IS AN AGENDA ITEM.

I WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS. I HEARD THE SAME RHETORIC THAT I AM NOT CONTROLLING THE CONSTABLE IN PRECINCT 4.

A TON OF CITIZENS THAT GET TO VOTE TO DO THAT EVERY FOUR YEARS. AND THAT IS NOT MY JOB.

HE HAS A HIGHER PERSON TO ANSWER TO STATUTORILY.

HE DOESN'T ANSWER TO ME. HE DOESN'T ANSWER TO US ON THE COURT NECESSARILY UNLESS IT COMES TO HIS BUDGET AND HE ANSWERS TO THE CITIZENS OF HAYS NAYS PRECINCT 4.

IF ANYONE HAS AN ISSUE I ENCOURAGE TO SPEAK TO HIM AND

GET THAT RECTIFIED. >> JUDGE BECERRA: MARISOL.

>> MY OFFICE DID REVIEW THESE PURCHASES.

BECAUSE THERE WAS NO PURCHASE ORDER AND APPROVED IN THE PRIOR YEAR'S BUDGET AND KNOT NOT ROLLED OVER BECAUSE THOSE VEHICLES HAD NOT BE DELIVERED. THAT IS WHY WE HAVE THIS ITEM

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ON THE AGENDA TO ASK THE COURT TO PLEASE AUTHORIZE THE PAYMENT FOR THIS EQUIPMENT THAT WAS RELATED TO THE VEHICLES THAT HAVE BEEN PREVIOUSLY APPROVED AND THE EQUIPMENT PREVIOUSLY APPROVED IN THE PRIOR BUDGET AS WELL AND THAT'S HOW WE FIND THIS ITEM ON THE AGENDA AND WE REVIEW IT AND FOUND THAT IT WAS

NOT ORIGINALLY ISSUED. >> THANK YOU, MA'AM.

DR. CARDENAS, CALL THE ROLE. >> WALT SMITH: YES.

>> DEBBIE INGALSBE: YES. >> LON SHELL: YES.

>> MARK JONES: YES. >> JUDGE BECERRA: YES.

AND NOW WE WILL TAKE A QUICK RECESS.

>> CAN WE DO NUMBER 47, JUDGE, VERY QUICKLY?

>> JUDGE BECERRA: YES, YES. WE WILL DO 47, PLEASE.

[47. Discussion and possible action to accept a Proposal from SI Mechanical, LLC for installation of a new Backflow System at the Juvenile Detention Center and amend the budget accordingly. INGALSBE/LITTLEJOHN]

>> DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO ACCEPT A PROPOSAL FROM SI MECHANICAL LCC FOR INSTALLATION OF A NEW BACK FLOW SYSTEM AT THE JUVENILE DETENTION CENTER AND AMEND THE

BUDGET ACCORDINGLY. >> DEBBIE INGALSBE: SO MOVED.

>> SECOND. >> JUDGE BECERRA: MOTION AND A SECOND. THAT IS A LEGAL REQUIREMENT.

WE HAVE NO CHOICE. PLEASE CALL THE ROLE.

>> LON SHELL: YES. >> WALT SMITH: YES.

>> MARK JONES: YES. >> DEBBIE INGALSBE: YES.

>> JUDGE BECERRA: YES. THANK YOU MR. LITTLEJOHN FOR APPROXIMATING HERE AND APPRECIATE YOUR ATTENDANCE.

AT THIS POINT WE WILL TAKE A SHORT RECESS BEFORE WE GO ON

>> JUDGE BECERRA: USUALLY THE GAVEL GETS THEM UP AND THAT'S WHEN I BANGED IT. WE ARE BACK FROM A SHORT RE

[42. Discussion and possible action to receive and accept the Revised Bylaws of the Hays County Historical Commission (HCHC). INGALSBE/K.JOHNSON]

RECESS. DR. CARDENAS, OPEN ITEM NUMBER

42. >> NUMBER 42, DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO RECEIVE AND ACCEPT THE REVISED BYLAWS OF THE HAYS COUNTY HISTORICAL COMMISSION.

>> DEBBIE INGALSBE: SO MOVED. >> SECOND.

>> JUDGE BECERRA: COMMISSIONER INGALSBE.

>> DEBBIE INGALSBE: I AM NOT SURE IF ONE.

>> FROM THE HISTORICAL COMMISSION WILL COME UP AND GO THROUGH THE CHANGES. I AM NOT SURE WHAT THAT PROCESS

IS GOING TO BE. >> JUDGE BECERRA, THIS IS THE ONE I HAVE A WRITTEN COMMENT TO.

>> JUDGE BECERRA: IF YOU DON'T MIND GIVING US A MINUTE FIRST.

GO AHEAD AND READ THE COMMENT, DR. CARDENAS.

>> I WILL. FROM RYAN PATRICK PERKINS.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE. I ENCOURAGE TO YOU PASS THE UPDATED BYLAWS RECENTLY APPROVED BY THE HAYS COUNTY HISTORICAL COMMISSION. AS A MEMBER OF THE COMMISSIONERS LOCAL CERTIFIED COMMITTEE I ASK THE COMMITTEE TO IMPLORE THIS POSTHASTE AS OPERATING UNDER THE 2018 VERSION OF THE BYLAWS THAT DO NOT COMPLY WITH CHANGES IN STATE LAW AND THE STATE HISTORIC COMMISSION RULES AND REGULATIONS WHICH WENT INTO EFFECT OVER THE LAST THREE

YEARS. >> JUDGE BECERRA: ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU, MA'AM. MISS JOHNSON.

>> THANK YOU, JUDGE. I AM JUST HERE AS A RESOURCE IN CASE YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING THIS DOCUMENT.

I THINK IT IS SELF-EXPLANATORY AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO GETTING THE FINAL APPROVAL FROM YOU A ALL.

>> JUDGE BECERRA: THANK YOU, COMMISSIONERS, ANY QUESTION OR

COMMENTS? >> I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU -- I THINK THIS IS VERY TELLING THAT THIS IS A COMPLETELY VOLUNTEER ORGANIZATION. WE APPRECIATE YOUR WORK.

THESE THINGS PASS 20-0, BUT I DON'T THINK I HAVE SEEN ONE WE HAD TO LOOK AT THAT HAD MORE EXPLANATORY NOTES TO IT WITH SPECIFIC REFERENCES TO CHANGES IN STATUTE AND VERY HELPFUL AND

THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR WORK. >> I APPRECIATE THE DETAILS AND EXPLAINING THE CHANGES AND PUTTING IT ALL IN THE DOCUMENTS AND I APPRECIATE THAT. I ASK THAT YOU WAIT A COUPLE OF MONTHS TO GET THIS GOING AND I APPRECIATE THAT AS WELL.

I APPRECIATE Y'ALL WAITING FOR A FEW MONTHS.

>> THANK YOU. WE REALLY DO WANT TO GO AHEAD

AND START WORKING. >> WE WANT TO THANK YOU FOR

BEING PATIENT WITH US. >> OKAY, I DON'T KNOW IF I CAN SAY MUCH MORE. I KNOW THAT AS I READ THROUGH THE DOCUMENT ALSO, I KNOW THAT THERE ARE -- THERE IS LANGUAGE TO BETTER CLARIFY THE MISSION ALSO AS WAS STATED.

THE REQUIRED LANGUAGE BY THE TEXAS HISTORICAL COMMISSION AND THERE ARE SOME NEW SECTIONS THAT THEY ARE REQUIRING THAT THIS -- TO BE PUT IN THE DOCUMENT.

SO I, TOO, FEEL IT IS EXTREMELY HELPFUL TO HAVE IT WORDED AND DELIVERED IN THE WAY IT WAS. IT WAS EASY TO READ AND GAVE

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THE GREAT EXPLANATION. SO, THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU MISS JOHNSON. I APPRECIATE YOUR WORK AND ONE OF THE CONVERSATIONS THAT WAS HAD WITH COMMISSIONER SHELL NO TO NOT CREATE HASTE IN UPDATING BYLAWS TO SHOW MY TRUEST COMMITMENT IN STUDYING THE COURSE AND DOING WHAT IS MOST USEFUL FOR OUR COMMUNITY AS A WHOLE.

AND KNOW THAT MR. PERKINS SAID IT.

STATED. COMPLIED WITH LAW.

COMPLYING WITH LAW. AND THE WAY I UNDERSTOOD THE HISTORIC TEXAS -- HISTORIC COMMISSION TO -- TO GUIDE THE HAYS COUNTY HISTORIC COMMISSION HAS BEEN GUIDANCE, SUGGETIONS, AND I WAS WONDERING IF COULD YOU SPEAK SPECIFICALLY TO THE LAW YOU FEEL WE WERE OUT OF COMPLIANCE WITH AND IF YOU POINT TO IT AND POINT OUT THE NUMBER THAT SAID YOU ARE OUT OF

COMPLIANCE. >> WELL, WE HAVE THE CODE 318 THAT WE HAVE TO ABIDE BY. I DON'T KNOW SPECIFICALLY WHAT

YOU ARE ASKING. >> WELL, I HEARD WE WANT TO COMPLY WITH THE LAW, BUT I AM NOT AWARE OF A LAW WE ARE NOT COMPLYING WITH AS THE HAYS COUNTY HISTORIC COMMISSION AND YOU ALSO SAID WE WANT TO START WORKING.

AND I AM WONDERING NOW WHAT HAS STOPPED YOU FROM WORKING IF YOU HAVE BEEN UNDER THE SAME LAWS SINCE 2018.

ARE YOU -- I AM JUST LOOKING FOR CLARITY FOR THE ROAD MAP

BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE IT. >> TRY DO ALL THE NOTES FOR ALL THE ARTICLES, THE SECTIONS, THE HAYS COUNTY HISTORICAL COMMISSION AND RECOMMENDATION AND REGULATIONS OF THE STATE LAW THAT COMES WITH THIS PARTICULAR ORGANIZATION.

SO REALLY DON'T -- I CAN'T ANSWER THAT.

>> JUDGE, ONE GOOD EXAMPLE IF YOU LOOK IN THE BACKGROUND MATERIAL, SPECIFIC NOTES RELATIVE TO, YOU NO, AN OFFICIAL COUNTY REGISTER OF HISTORIC PLACES AND THAT SECTION OF THE BYLAWS WAS DELETED.

WELL, THERE HAVE BEEN STATE STATUTE CHANGED SO THE COUNTY COMMISSIONERS COURT NO LONGER NAME HISTORIC PLACE IS.

IS A STATE FUNCTION NOW AND REMOVED FROM THE LOCAL FUNCTION -- FUNCTIONALITY OF IT AND ONE OF THE EXAMPLES THAT YOU LOOK IN THE BACKGROUND MATERIAL THAT IS REFERENCED TO BRING THESE INTO XLOO COMPLIANCE WITH CHANGES OF STATUTE.

IF YOU READ THEY ARE CHANGES THAT OCCUR FOR THE COURT AND US THAT TAKE, ADD OR REMOVE DESIGNATIONS THAT WE CAN PUT FORTH A IN THE PAST THE HISTORICAL COMMISSION.

AND WE DON'T DON'T HAVE THAT POWER ANYMORE AND THEY DON'T HAVE THAT POWER ANY. MORE AND IF YOU LOOK THROUGHOUT EXTENSIVE BACKGROUND REFERENCING EACH ONE OF THOSE

OCCURRENCES. >> JUDGE BECERRA: THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER, I APPRECIATE IT. MISS JOHNSON, FOR EXAMPLE, ON SECTION 5, BECAUSE COMMISSIONER SAID IF YOU LOOK AT IT, IF YOU% READ, IF YOU LOOK AT IT, IF YOU READ.

I DID MY BEST TO LOOK AT IT AND READ AND YOU DIDN'T GET BEHIND THE THOUGHT PROCESS BEHIND IT --

>> EXCUSE ME SECTION 5, WHAT ARTICLE?

>> JUDGE BECERRA: SECTION 5, PAGE 5, OF THE DOCUMENT I HAVE BEFORE ME. I WANT TO ASK YOU ALL HAYS COUNTY COMMISSION MEMBERS MUST RESIDE IN HAYS COUNTY, FOR EXAMPLE. ARE YOU ABLE TO SEE THAT?

>> I AM ABLE. >> JUDGE BECERRA: ARE YOU SAYING THAT SOMETHING THAT TEXAS HISTORIC COMMISSION TOLD US HAVE TO BE IN THE BYLAWS AS A COUNTY?

>> NO, IT IS WHAT WE THINK IS BEST.

>> JUDGE BECERRA: OKAY. SO THERE IS A SIMPLE EXAMPLE.

WE DON'T TAKE TOO LONG ON THIS EXAMPLE.

TOO MANY PLACES AT FIRST PASS BECAUSE WE GOT IT IN MY TIME CYCLE A LITTLE BIT LATE AND I HAVEN'T HAD A CHANCE TO PR PROPERLY DIGEST IT AND MY ASK THAT COMMISSIONER INGALSBE I

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BELIEVE THAT ITEM SO YOU AND I COULD HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY GO OVER THIS. BECAUSE THAT IS WHAT THE STATE SUGGESTS THAT YOU WORK WITH THE COUNTY JUDGE, THE AUDITOR'S

OFFICE. >> AND THE COMMISSIONERS COURT.

>> JUDGE BECERRA: THAT IS GREAT.

BUT IN THE MEANTIME I WAS LEFT OUT OF THIS CONVERSATION.

I HAVE LOTS OF QUESTION AND I DON'T WANT THIS TO BE A O ONE-HOUR WORKSHOP FOR US ON THIS.

AND MY HOPE TO TABLE THIS AND BRING ME UP TO SPEED ON THE RATIONALE BEHIND THESE SUGGESTIONS FOR US TO ADOPT BECAUSE I AM TRULY NOT -- NOT CLEAR ON WHY SOME OF THESE ACTIONS ARE BEING PROPOSED WHEN THEY ARE NOT MANDATED BY THE STATE. AND I JUST WANT TO GET A BETTER UNDERSTANDING. MY ASK IS SIMPLY IF YOU WILL VISIT WITH MY OFFICE SO THAT WE CAN GO OVER THIS A LITTLE BIT MORE METHODICALLY. AND THAT'S WHAT I AM ASKING COMMISSIONER TOYNGZ EVEN TABLE THIS FOR NEXT WEEK.

I AM NOT TRYING TO FOOT DRAG ON THIS -- COMMISSIONER INGALSBE TO I BELIEVE THAT FOR NEXT WEEK BECAUSE I WANT A BETTER

UNDERSTANDING. >> I BELIEVE WE SENT THIS TO YOU LAST THURSDAY. DID YOU NOT GET THAT.

>> THURSDAY NIGHT, FRIDAY MORNING IS HOW WE GOT TO SEE IT. BUT THE THING IS, THIS IS NOT IN MY UNFORTUNATE SITUATION -- THIS IS NOT THE ONLY THING THAT IS COMING THROUGH, AND IT DID NOT GET THE WEEKEND'S TIME THAT IT DESERVED WHILE WORKING ON OTHER ISSUES RELATED TO COVID, FOR EXAMPLE. AND SO I AM SIMPLY ASKING THAT YOU ALLOW A CONVERSATION TO TAKE PLACE BETWEEN YOU, AS THE CHAIR, AND ME AS THE COUNTY JUDGE.

SINCE THAT HAS NOT HAPPENED I AM ASKING THAT YOU ALLOW THAT TO TAKE PLACE AND BRING IT BACK NEXT WEEK WITH A BETTER UNDERSTANDING. COMMISSIONER INGALSBE, WILL THAT BE OKAY WITH YOU? CINGULAR CINGULAR MISS JOHNSON, I WOULD LIKE TO -- I MEAN, I AM --

>> DEBBIE INGALSBE: MISS JOHNSON, I HAD AMPLE REVIEW AND MOST COURT MEMBERS DID. WANT TO ASK YOU --

>> POINT OUT THAT THERE IS A MOTION AND A SECOND ON THE

FLOOR, I BELIEVE. >> I THINK THAT THE NOTE SECTION FOR EACH A.M. IS VERY DETAILED AND I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM OF LIMITING TO HAYS COUNTY RESIDENTS.

SEEMS LOGICAL THAT HAYS COUNTY COMMISSION WILL BE MADE YOU UP

OF HAYS COUNTY RESIDENTS. >> OH, SURE, THAT WAS JUST AN

EXAMPLE. >> HOW THE QUORUM AND WHAT WAS ASKED FOR BY THE TEXAS HISTORICAL COMMISSION IS DEFINED AS A QUORUM AND NEED FOUR MEMBERS AS A QUORUM.

EXPLAINS EXACTLY WHY THEY NEED THOSE CHANGES AND REASONABLE AND WELL-DONE. I CAN FOLLOW ALONG.

>> JUDGE BECERRA: COMMISSIONER SHELL, CAN I ASK YOU A QUE QUESTION. WHENEVER YOU ASK EXTRA WEEK TO GO TO THE AGENDA SOFT WARE, WE ARE AGREEABLE AND THE SAME ABILITY FROM MY COURT MEMBERS TO WORK WITH MISS JOHNSON AND INSTEAD OF TAKE THIS AN HOUR TO SHRED THIS TO RIBBONS GET A CONVERSATION AND A MEETING TO UNDERSTAND THE INTENT AND EVIDENT. THAT'S ALL I AM ASKING FOR THE SAME THING THAT YOU THOUGHT IS USEFUL IS THE SAME THING I THOUGHT IS USEFUL GIVE ME AN OPPORTUNITY UNDERSTAND THIS

MORE THAN YOU DO. >> WHENEVER WE BROUGHT THIS UP.

SOME TIME AGO WHEN YOU DISCUSSED THAT.

REACHED OUT TO MISS JOHNSON. >> JUDGE BECERRA: YES.

>> IN THAT TIME TO TRY TO DISCUSS THESE THINGS?

>> JUDGE BECERRA: YES. >> I WOULD ASSUME MOVE FORWARD TO THIS. THAT IS JUST MY RECOMMENDATION.

>> JUDGE BECERRA: SO WE -- COMMISSIONER SHELL, YOU ARE

OKAY MOVING FORWARD WITH IT? >> LON SHELL: YES, JUDGE, I THINK BROUGHT IT TO US THE FIRST TIME MONTHS AGO AND I HAD ASKED THAT THEY WAIT TO GIVE YOU PLENTY OF TIME IF YOU HAD CONCERNS WHEN THE DISCUSSIONS WERE HAPPENING.

I FEEL LIKE WE HAVE AMPLE TIME AND THE EXPLANATION FOR EACH

AND EVERY MODIFICATION. >> JUDGE BECERRA: VERY GOOD.

SO WON'T BE RECIPROCATED. THAT IS UNDERSTANDABLE.

>> THE REASON I DID THAT ON THAT ITEM BECAUSE I WAS ABLE TO PARTICIPATE IN A DEMONSTRATION OF THE PROJECT AND SCHEDULED AND TWO COURT MEMBERS PARTICIPATED AND I WAS NOT ABLE TO PARTICIPATE IN THAT MEETING BECAUSE THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN A VIOLATION OF STATE LAW, SO I JUST ASK I BE GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY AND THAT REQUIRED THAT DELAY.

>> JUDGE BECERRA: AND MY OFFICE ASKED FOR THE MINUTES OF THE MEETING TO GET AN UNDERSTANDING OF THE THOUGHT PROCESS BEHIND THESE CONVERSATIONS TO AMEND THESE

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BYLAWS AND WE DIDN'T GET THEM AND WE ASKED NUMEROUS TIMES AND WE DIDN'T GET THEM. I AM TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THE THOUGHT PROCESS BEHIND THIS AND I HAVE NOT HAD THE INFORMATION TO GET THE OPPORTUNITY THAT I HAVE TAKEN AN ACTIVE EFFORT TO RECEIVE OR REACH FOR. THAT IS OKAY.

DR. CARDENAS, PLEASE CALL THE ROLE.

>> MARK JONES: YES. >> LON SHELL: YES.

>> DEBBIE INGALSBE: YES. >> WALT SMITH: YES.

>> JUDGE BECERRA: BECAUSE I FEELS THIS LACK IN TRANSPARENCY I VOTE NO. WILL YOU PLEASE OPEN AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 44. -- OH, WAIT, WAIT, THE ONE FOR MISS MILLER. WHICH ONE IS THAT, MISS MILLER?

>> 48. >> 48, JUDGE.

[48. Discussion and possible action to adopt Hays County Employee Personnel Policy revisions. INGALSBE/MILLER]

>> JUDGE BECERRA: OPEN AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 48.

>> 48, DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO ADOPT HAYS COUNTY EMPLOYEE PERSONNEL POLICY DIVISION.

>> DEBBIE INGALSBE: SO MOVED. >> SECOND.

>> JUDGE BECERRA: A MOTION AND A SECOND.

MISS MILLER WILL YOU LIKE TO APPROACH THE PODIUM AND EXPLAIN

YOUR RECOMMENDATIONS? >> THANK YOU, SHERRY MILLER, HAYS COUNTY HUMAN RESOURCES DIRECTOR.

IN 2019, THE COUNTY ADOPTED AND UPDATED AND A REVISED PERSONNEL POLICY MANUAL. AND WE HAVE BEEN USING THAT MAN EWELL NOW FOR TWO YEARS AND A FEW MONTH, AND AS WITH EVERYTHING LIKE THIS, EVERY TIME YOU USE A HUGE DOBLTION ULTIMATE TO ADMINISTER PERSONNEL LEAVE, BENEFITS PROVISIONS, YOU ALWAYS FIND A LITTLE CLARITY IS NEEDED IN WORDING OR ADJUSTMENTS IN HOW ITEMS ARE ADMINISTERED.

SO I -- I INCLUDED IN THE BACKUP AND THEN SENT AN ADDITIONAL DOCUMENT OR REVISED DOCUMENT AND THE BENEFITS SECTIONS THAT NEEDED A FEW EDITS.

I THINK AT THIS TIME INSTEAD OF GOING THROUGH EACH OF THE EDITS INDIVIDUALLY, DO YOU HAVE QUESTIONS? JUDGE JUDGE MISS MILLER, I OVERLOOKED A NOTE ON MY SIDE HERE THAT I HAD A COMMENTS PERSON.

WILL YOU MIND YIELDING THE PODIUM.

>> ABSOLUTELY. >> JUDGE BECERRA: ONE PERSON SIGNED UP TO SPEAK FOR RODRIGO AMA Y A.

>> THANK YOU, AGAIN. TIME AFTER TIME, I UP HERE AND I ASK TO DO WHAT IS IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE COUNTY AND YOU ALL DON'T DO THAT. LAWSUIT FILED OVER THE COURT ADMINISTRATOR EVEN THOUGH STATUTE SHOWED SHE IS ALLOWED THAT. THE CURRENT HR DIRECTOR CLEARLY IS NOT QUALIFIED. COMPROMISED HER DUTIES TO THE EMPLOYEES OF HAYS COUNTY. WHY ARE Y'ALL TAKING HER RECOMMENDATIONS OUT HERE AS IF IT IS GOLD.

IT IS INSULTING TO ME, MR. DAN LYONS AND VIEWERS IN CY CYBERSPACE. SHE COMPROMISED HER DUTIES, OKAY. MADE COMMENTS -- CONTRIBUTED TO THE LAWSUIT. YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO BE NEUTRAL AND UNBIASED IF YOU ARE A DIRECTOR.

ON THAT, I WAS TALKING TO A FORMER EMPLOYEE AND WHY ARE DIRECTORS NOT BEING REQUIRED TO PUNCH IN, CLOCK IN, OKAY.

WHERE IS THE ACCOUNTABILITY? WHERE IS THE TRANSPARENCY? SO ALL THESE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT ARE MADE, THEY ARE SUBJECT TO INTERPRETATION. IN ADDITION, THEY ARE SELE SELECTIVELY APPLIED DEPENDING ON WHAT EMPLOYEE AND WHAT DEPARTMENT A LOT OF PERSONAL FAVORS TO BE DONE AND THAT IS COSTING US MILLIONS OF DOLLARS OF LAWSUITS.

I WILL BRING THE LOSS RUN REPORT FROM TAC.

BECAUSE YOU HAVE SOMEONE IN THAT POSITION THAT IS NOT QUALIFIED AND VERY BIASED, IT CONTRIBUTES TO THE LAWSUITS.

Y'ALL NEED TO START WORKING ON REMOVING THIS INDIVIDUAL AND HIRING SOMEONE WHO IS GOING TO DO THE JOB THAT IS REQUIRED OF THEM. NOT TO Y'ALL'S PERSONAL SATISFACTION. I THINK SHE IS AN ARCHITECT OF

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THE APPLICATION THAT EMPLOYEES WILL WORK TO THE SATISFACTION OF THE ELECTED OFFICIAL. CAN YOU IMAGINE IF THAT WAS THE CASE FOR PRECINCT -- WIMBERLY PRECINCT WITH RAY HELM FOR DEPUTIES TO BE PERFORMING AT HIS LEVEL.

WOULD YOU HAVE THE EMPTY OFFICE.

I AM GLAD THEY TOOK THAT STATEMENT OFF.

IT BOTHERED ME A LOT. START WORKING ON GETTING RID OF THIS HR DIRECTOR. SHE HAS NO BUSINESS RUNNING THAT DEPARTMENT. THANK YOU.

>> JUDGE BECERRA: THANK YOU, MR. AMAYA.

SINCE MISS MILLER ASKED FOR OUR COMMENTS INSTEAD OF GOING THROUGH. I WILL START WITH THE COMMENTS.

THE VERY FIRST THING THAT WAS GLARING IN MY EYES WAS MY FATHER-IN-LAW WAS IN VIETNAM. HE SERVED ON THE U S S LEXINGTON. MY NEPHEW IS IN GUAM SERVING IN THE AIR FORCE. I AM SURROUNDED FRIENDS AND FAMILY IN THE MILITARY. EVEN MY EXECUTIVE ADMIN IS A NAVY VET. AND PROUD TO REAP THE REWARDS WHAT OUR GOVERNMENT, THE MILITARY HAS DONE TO SHAPE THE WORK ETHIC. MIKE JONES, ANOTHER ONE, ARMY.

I WAS -- I WILL STAY MOST PEACEFULLY, DISTURBED WITH THE IDEA THAT IF I READ THIS CORRECTLY, WE ARE CLIPPING AT THE SHINS ANY MILITARY H HARDWORKING, FORMER MILITARY RESERVE WHATEVER CAPACITY TO A 31-DAY CAP AND THE SPOUSE THAT STAYS BEHIND HAS THE RISK OF NOT HAVING INSURANCE COVERAGE, ETC. I WOULD LIKE TO START WITH THAT. IF YOU CAN PLEASE HELP ME UNDERSTAND BECAUSE IT SEEMS AS THOUGH I -- I BELIEVE I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT THAT IS OFFERING.

>> YES, SIR. USERA IS THE GOVERNING GUIDELINES FOR MILITARY MEMBERS THAT ARE EMPLOYED BY EMPLOYERS WHO ARE NONMILITARY. SO IF HAYS COUNTY HAS AN EMPLOYEE THAT IS SERVING IN THE MILITARY AND CALLED TO DUTY FOR 30 DAYS OR MORE THE EMPLOYER IS DIRECTED TO OFFER THAT -- THAT MILITARY MEMBER COBRA SO THEY CAN CONTINUE THEIR EMPLOYER INSURANCE. AT 30 DAYS IF A SERVICE MEMBER IS GOING TO SERVE FOR 30 MORE DAYS, THE MILITARY IS GOING TO PICK UP THEIR HEALTH INSURANCE. IN THE HEALTH INSURANCE FOR THEIR FAMILY MEMBERS. THE COUNTY ALWAYS HAD THIS POLICY AND THE LANGUAGE I ADDED TO THE POLICY HELPED CLARIFY THE REQUIREMENT THAT WE LUZ OUR INSURANCE OR OUR INSURANCE STOPS IF YOU WERE SERVING FOR 30 OR MORE DAYS.

SO WE ARE IN COMPLIANCE WITH USERA THAT PROVIDES US WITH GUIDELINES FOR EMPLOYEES AND REEMPLOYING SERVICEMEMBERS.

WHEN THEIR SERVICE IS FINAL AND THEIR DUTY TIME IS FINAL, WE REEMPLOY -- WE USE THAT WORD LOOSELY.

THOSE EMPLOYEES COME BACK TO WORK FOR US AND THEIR INSURANCE IS REINSTATED ON THE DAY THAT THEY RETURN TO WORK.

SO THIS LANGUAGE IS SIMPLY CLARIFYING WHAT WE ALREADY DO

IN COMPLIANCE WITH USERA. >> NO DPAP WHEN THEY LEAVE US

AND THE MILITARY PICKS IT UP. >> CORRECT.

>> USERA PROVIDES US GUIDELINES BUT NOT MANDATES, AM I RIGHT?

>> I NEED TO READ -- USERA SAYS THAT THE EMPLOYEE CAN COLLECT TO CONTINUE THEIR HEALTH INSURANCE PAST THE 30 DAYS AND THEY DO SO THROUGH COBRA. IN TERMS OF GUIDELINES OR HAVE-20S, WHAT THE COUNTY D DOES.

>> JUDGE BECERRA: COBRA -- FOR THOSE VIEWING THAT ARE WATCHING AND DON'T UNDERSTAND -- MOST OF US DON'T.

COBRA IS WHEN YOU CONTINUE TO FUND YOUR OWN INSURANCE.

IS IT GENERALIZING IT ENOUGH? >> YOUR HEALTH INSURANCE CONDITIONS AT THE -- WHATEVER COVERAGE AND PLAN THAT YOU ARE IN AS A CURRENT EMPLOYEE SO A CONTINUATION OF BENEFITS.

THE EMPLOYEE PAYING A IF YOU WILL PREMIUM IN ADDITION TO

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WHAT THEY ALWAYS PAY FOR THEIR DEPENDENCE THEY ARE PAYING THE

COUNTY'S PORTION. >> THAT IS THE PART I WAS GOING TO WALK INTO WAS THE FACT THAT YOU AFTER 30 DAYS IF YOU NEED TO OR SHOULD TAKE THIS COBRA THAT IS BEING SUGGESTED AFTER 30 DAYS, YOUR PREMIUM COULD ALMOST DOUBLE.

I JUST DON'T BELIEVE. >> THE COST WHATEVER PREMIUM.

>> WHATEVER THE COUNTY IS ADDED TO WHATEVER --

>> I THINK WE ARE MISSING SOMETHING THEE.

AND WHAT SHERRY IS SAYING THEY WILL GO ON THE MILITARY'S HEALTH PLAN SO THEY WILL -- IF THEY TOOK COBRA.

THEY WOULD BE DOUBLE COVERED. >> THAT'S CORRECT.

>> AND FORGIVE ME FOR INTERRUPTING.

WHAT WE ARE MISS GOING YOU GO ON THE MILITARY PLAN IS AUTOMATICALLY COVERS YOU AND YOUR FAMILY.

AND I AM LOOKING AT YOU. I AM 90% SURE THAT IS CORRECT.

AND THE COST TO THE INDIVIDUAL SERVICEMEMBER WOULD BE FOR US NOT TO PROVIDE IT AND HAVE TO DO IT UNLESS THEY WANTED DOUBLE COVERAGE. IS THAT INCORRECT?

I BELIEVE THAT IS CORRECT. >> LET ME -- DO ME A FAVOR.

WE HAVE SOMEONE THAT HAS MILITARY EXPERIENCE AS OUR -- ALSO SERVES AS OUR DIRECTOR. PLEASE INTRODUCE YOURSELF AND

TITLE. >> LET ME DOWNPLAY THOSE EXPECTATION. I AM NOT A SUBJECT MATTER EXPERT IN INSURANCES. THE ONE -- SO -- AND I DID REACH OUT TO SHERRY BEFORE TO UNDERSTAND THAT THIS WAS AN EXISTING POLICY THAT WE HAD BEFORE AND THIS IS JUST CLARIFYING THAT. I WAS UNAWARE OF THAT ASPECT OF IT. BUT OTHER -- LIKE -- I AM UNCERTAIN IF THEY GO ON TO THE MILITARY TRICARE.

IF THEY GET CALLED UP. DOES THAT INCLUDE DENTAL INSURANCE WHICH OUR INSURANCE PROVIDES.

TRICARE MAY NOT PROVIDE THAT WITH ACTIVE DUTY ORDER.

THERE IS JUST A LOT I DON'T KNOW AND I DON'T WANT TO GIVE YOU INCORRECT INFORMATION REGARDING THAT.

THERE ARE OTHER THINGS LIKE THE HSA ACCOUNTS.

SOME MY EMPLOYEES -- AND SOME OF MY STAFF AND OTHER EMPLOYEES THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY HAVE VA HEALTH CARE AND A RETIREE AND HAVE TRICARE. THEY DON'T EVEN NEED COUNTY HEALTH INSURANCE AND UTILIZE HSA, THE BRONZE LEVEL PLAN, AND THAT COULD BE FORM OF A RETIREMENT ACCOUNT, BECAUSE IT CAN HELP PAY FOR MEDICARE PREMIUMS DOWN THE ROAD AND THE HHA COMBINATION. I AM UNAWARE OF AND I DON'T -- I'M HERE TO ANSWER AS MUCH QUESTIONS THAT I CAN, AND I AM NOT AN EXPERT IN BENEFITS OR INSURANCE.

>> YOU HAVEN'T HEARD OF ANY FORMER EMPLOYEES THAT WENT IN THE MILITARY THAT THIS WAS A PROBLEM FOR?

>> I AM UNAWARE OF IT IF IT HAS BEEN A PROBLEM.

>> SORRY, DIDN'T MEAN TO INTERRUPT YOU.

>> THE PAST 20 YEARS WITH THE NATIONAL GUARD AND RESERVE HAVE ABOUT BUSY. OUR NATIONAL GUARD HAS BEEN UTILIZED MORE AND MORE AND O ONE-YEAR DEPLOYMENT TO IRAQ IS NOW -- A VERY RARE THING AND 30 MONTHS AT THE BORDER AND TWO MONTHS RESPONDING TO COVID, WE ARE UTILIZING OUR NATIONAL GUARD RESERVES MORE THESE SHORT STINT DOE EMPLOYMENTS THAT IS ABOUT THE EXTENT I KNOW ON THIS MATTER.

>> THANK YOU, JUDE. I THINK BECAUSE IT WAS POLICY IN THE PAST AND WE ARE LOOKING TO CLARIFY IT.

IF WE DON'T WANT TO SUPPORT THE POLICY OF THE PAST AND SUPPORT OUR MILITARY AND FORMER MILITARY WORKING IN THIS COUNTY GOVERNMENT, I FEEL THIS COULD POTENTIALLY SEND A MIXED SIGNAL AND QUANTIFY WHAT THIS ACTUALLY MEANS OR COSTS TO THE COUNTY BECAUSE I KNOW COMING IN AND OUT OF INSURANCE AND GOING INTO COBRA AND REAPPLYING AND YOU NEVER KNOW THE CONVERSATIONS ABOUT MAYBE FUTURE PRE-EXISTING CONDITIONS.

WHO KNOW LIKE JUDE JUST SAID A WHOLE BALL OF ISSUES ON THIS COURT BECAUSE WE ALL KNOW EACH OTHER.

NONE OF US ON THIS COURT ARE SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTS, BUT I FOUND THAT ON THE SURFACE THROUGH MY LAYMAN'S "CARE ABOUT THE PEOPLE" PERSPECTIVE HAVE THIS DOES NOT SIT WELL WITH ME AND EVEN THOUGH WE WILL DO IT IN THE PAST AND ARTICULATE IT, I THINK THIS IS THE PERFECT OPPORTUNITY TO UN DO IT ESPECIALLY YOU SAID THAT USERA SAID IT IS A GUIDELINE.

I WANT TO PROVIDE BETTER GHINS FOR OUR EMPLOYEES.

THEY DESERVE -- GUIDELINES FOR OUR EMPLOYEES.

THEY DESERVE BETTER AND DONE THINGS FOR OUR COUNTRY AND I

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WOULDN'T WANT TO SHOO THEM AFTER 30 DAYS.

>> I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU ARE SAYING.

I DON'T WANT THE COUNTY TO PAY FOR THEIR HEALTH INSURANCE WHEN THEY ARE GETTING 100% COVERAGE FROM THE MILITARY.

NO REASON PRIMARY AND SECO SECONDARY.

SO MANY VARIABLES. >> WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF WE DID NOT THE SERVICE ITED. MEMBERS AFTER 30 DAYS OF ABSENCE IS WE WILL CONTINUE TO PAY THE COUNTY'S PREMIUM WHICH TODAY IS OVER $900 A MONTH. AN WE WILL EXPECT THE EMPLOYEE TO PAY FOR THEIR SHARE OF THE MEDIUM WHEN IT IS GONE.

>> AN OPTION FOR INDIVIDUALS WITH THE INTEREST AND NOT JUST SAY AFTER 30 DAYS, SHOVING YOU OFF OF OUR INSURANCE AND MODIFY OUR POLICY TO SAY, FOR THOSE IN THE MILITARY THOSE GOING TO SERVE FOR MORE THAN 30 DAY, THE CHOICE WILL BE YOURS.

HOW ABOUT THAT. >> I WILL BE UP FOR THAT.

AND ONE QUESTION. I KNOW WE SELF-INSURER, BUT WILL WE BE ABLE TO GET REASSURANCE TO DEPLOYED MILITARY PERSONNEL FOR ANY INJURIES THEY SUSTAINED.

>> THAT WOULD BE COVERED -- >> WHEN AN EMPLOYEE RETURNS FROM MILITARY SERVICE AND THEIR INSURANCE IS REINSTATED.

PRE-EXISTING CONDITIONS UNRELATED TO THEIR SERVICE DUTY ARE COVERED. THERE IS NO EXCLUSION FOR ANY PRE-EXISTING CONDITION THAT THEY MAY OR MAY NOT HAD MEDICAL CARE FOR UNLESS THEY ARE INJURED OR HAVE SOME CONDITION

AS A RESULT OF THEIR SERVICE. >> SHERRY, I WILL JUST SAY WHEN I READ THIS SECTION ALSO, ALTHOUGH I UNDERSTAND IT A LITTLE BIT BETTER NOW, I AM ALSO CONCERNED.

AND I WAS JUST WONDERING -- I DON'T KNOW IF THERE ARE ANY OTHER SECTIONS OF THIS THAT WE HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT BUT MAYBE TAKE THAT SECTION AND DO A LITTLE MORE, I DON'T KNOW, OPTION OR MASSAGING OF WORDS AND GET ADDITIONAL INFORMATION.

>> I AM HAPPY TO TAKE THAT SECTION AGAIN.

THE REASON WE ADDED THIS LANGUAGE BECAUSE IT IS IN OUR POLICY AND VERY UNCLEAR WHAT OUR ACTIONS WILL BE.

SO IF THE COURT WOULD LIKE TO SEE LANGUAGE THAT IT IS THE SERVICE MEMBERS' CHOICE TO CONTINUE THEIR INSURANCE AS IT IS WHILE THEY ARE EMPLOYED, OR PRIVATE EMPLOYMENT WHEN THEY

ARE ON SERVICE DUTY. >> IF WE DID THAT, THEY WOULDN'T HAVE TO GO ON COBRA THEN?

>> I NEED TO RESEARCH THAT TO SEE IF THAT WOULD REQUIRE THEM GO OBJECT COBRA. IF THEY GO ON COBRA, THEY HAVE

TO PAY THE PREMIUM. >> GETS A LOT MORE EXPENSIVE.

>> I AM HAPPY IF WE CAN GET SOME OF THE OTHER EDITS APPROVED TO BRING THAT PARTICULAR SECTION BACK.

IN THE SECTION FOR DEMOTIONS, I DO WANT TO POINT OUT IN SECTION 2 A-113, DEMOTIONS, OUR POLICY THAT WAS ADOPTED BACK IN 2016 WAS ADOPTED WHEN SOMEONE TOOK A VOLUNTARY DEMOTION.

THEY RECEIVED BETWEEN A 3% TO 6% DECREASE IN THEIR SALARY.

SO DEMOTING TO A LOWER LEVEL POSITION AND WE FOUND THAT TO BE A LITTLE -- PROBLEMATIC WITH SALARY DISTRIBUTION AND THE DEMOTIONS WE EXPERIENCED IN THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS.

WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO CHANGE THAT TOO IS THE DEMOTION IS OF AT LEAST 3%. AND THE -- COULD BE GREATER THAN THAT. UP TO THE DEPARTMENT HEAD OR ELECTED OFFICIAL. MOST DEMOTIONS ARE INTERNAL DEPARTMENT DEMOTIONS AND OUR LARGER DEPARTMENTS.

THAT IS ONE OF THE -- A MAJOR CHANGE IN THIS -- THESE POLICY

EDITS. >> MISS MILLER, I WANT TO CHIME IN BEFORE YOU KEEP GOING. OPPOSITIONS ON 1 A-103, POSITION POSTINGS. ALL POSITIONS ARE APPROVED BY COMMISSIONERS COURT. REMOVED WAS "DURING THE BUDGET PROCESS." THOUGHT PROCESS BEHIND THAT.

>> IS THAT YOU DO APPROVE POSITIONS OUTSIDE OF THE BUDGET

PROCESS. >> JUDGE BECERRA: WHEN YOU SAY

"YOU" BE SPECIFIC. >> THE COMMISSIONERS COURT HAS APPROVED POSITIONS IN THE PAST AND LIKELY GOING FORWARD OUTSIDE OF THE ANNUAL BUDGET PROCESS.

>> JUDGE BECERRA: SO YOU ARE MAKING THE EFFORT TO STATE WHAT

IS ALREADY GOING ON. >> TO EXCLUDE IT HAS TO BE OR

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IS ALWAYS DURING THE BUDGET PROCESS.

>> JUDGE BECERRA: WHICH IS WHAT IS GOING ON REALLY WITH AMENDMENTS AND POSITIONS -- WE CREATE POSITIONS IS WHAT YOU

ARE DOING WITH THIS? >> THE BUDGE PROCESS.

THE INTENT OF THAT PARTICULAR LANGUAGE IS DURING THE ANNUAL BUDGET PROCESS. SO WHEN DO YOU IT IN MARCH OR NOVEMBER THAT IS OUTSIDE OF THE ANNUAL BUDGET PROCESS.

>> WHICH IS WHAT WE ARE DOING RIGHT NOW, RIGHT ANY WANT YOU TO SAY IT TO MAKE SURE WE ARE CLEAR WITH YOU.

>> YEAH, WE DO IT NOW. WE HAVE DONE IT IN THE PAST.

>> I GET YOUR QUESTION NOW. YES, THAT'S OKAY.

YOU HAVE APPROVED POSITIONS OUTSIDE OF THE BUDGET PROCESS.

>> JUDGE BECERRA: I WANTED TO SYNCHRONIZE WITH YOUR INTENT.

WHAT I LIKE TO DO WITH ANYTHING THAT COMES BEFORE US.

I THINK IT IS FAIR -- >> CAN I ADD SOMETHING SINCE I DIDN'T HAVE A OPPORTUNITY TO COMMENT ON MILITARY LEAVE WITH IDEAS READING THROUGH THIS THE UCERA SAY YOU HAVE THE ABILITY TO HAVE COVERAGE DURING YOUR MILITARY SERVICE.

YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO REINSTATED IN YOUR EMPLOYER'S HEALTH PLAN WHEN REEMPLOYED. YOU LEAVE YOUR JOB FROM MILITARY SERVICE YOU HAVE A RIGHT TO CONTINUE YOUR EXISTING HEALTH CARE PLAN COVERAGE FOR 24 MONTH WHILE IN THE MILITARY.

I AM WONDERING -- >> TO COBRA.

>> IS IT DEFINED AS COBRA? >> FROM WHAT YOU ARE READING FROM DID NOT SPECIFICALLY SAY, THE WAY THE CONTINUED INSURANCE WHEN YOU ARE NO LONGER EMP EMPLOYED.

UCERA TAKES THE STANCE WHEN YOU GO ON MILITARY SERVICE FOR 40, 45, 300 MONTHS, WHATEVER THE TERM IS, YOU ARE NO LONGER

EMPLOYED. >> I AM TRYING TO MAKE SURE WHEN WE TAKE A LOOK AND DO THE RESEARCH FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, IT IS REALLY THE FAMILY THAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT ALLOWING TO STAY ON THE COUNTY'S PLAN. THE INDIVIDUAL IF DEPLOYED TECHNICALLY DOESN'T HAVE -- WOULDN'T HAVE ACCESS TO THE COUNTY'S PLAN SELL TEXAS OR MAYBE YOU WOULD GO TO A PHYSICIAN AND COVERED BY OUR INSURANCE.

MORE THAN LIKELY THE FAMILY WHO HAS DOCTORS AND EVERYBODY ELSE IN THE COUNTY'S PLAN HAVE A -- TO STAY ON THE PLAN ALTHOUGH NOBODY WHO IS TECHNICALLY AN EMPLOYEE ANYMORE FOR THE COUNTY, RIGHT? THATS WHAT I THINK WE WILL GET INTO WHEN WE TALK TO THE INSURANCE MANAGER IS HOW DO WE STRUCTURE SOMETHING THAT NO LONGER -- THERE IS NO LONGER A COUNTY EMPLOYEE ASSOCIATED WITH THIS INSURANCE PLAN ANYMORE.

SO COBRA THE LEGAL WAY FOR THE FORMER EMPLOYEE TO ACCESS THE HEALTH PLAN BY PAYING FOR THE IF YOU WILL PREMIUM?

>> CORRECT. >> MY FIRST QUESTION WOULD BE, IS SPECIFICALLY COBRA MENTIONED IN USERA.

OR SAYING YOU HAVE A SIMILAR RIGHT THAT THEY CAN PAY UP TO

TWO YEARS. >> WITHOUT LOOKING AT USERA AND OUR REFERENCE DOCUMENTS. I DON'T REMEMBER IF COBRA IS

MENTIONED OR NOT. >> THAT GIVES US THE NRESABILITY TO CREATE OUR OWN POLICY AROUND -- GOING TO OUR HEALTH CARE PROVIDER AND HOW WE FIT THIS IN.

TO STAY ON THE COUNTY'S PLAN AND NOT PAY THE EXISTING -- I AM BRINGING UP SOME OF THE QUESTIONS WE WILL GET.

THEY ARE NOT AN EMPLOYEE AT THAT TIME BUT WE WANT TO TREAT THEM AS SUCH DURING THE PERIOD OF EMPLOYMENT FOR THEIR FAMILY.

I WANT TO ASK THE RIGHT QUESTIONS SO WE HAVE THE FLEXIBILITY TO DO WHAT WE WANT TO DO.

I TAKE OFFENSE TO THE JUDGE FOR SAYING THE WAY THIS WAS BROUGHT UP I DON'T THINK ANYBODY WAS DOING ANYTHING NEGATIVE TO THE SERVICEMEMBERS. SOUNDED MORE LIKE GRANDSTANDING TO ME AND I WANT TO GET TO THE HEART OF THE ISSUE AND

SOMETHING THAT WE WANT TO DO. >> JUDGE BECERRA: THAT A

PERSPECTIVE. >> HOW I FELT AND I AM JUST

SHARING THAT. >> JUDGE BECERRA: THANK YOU,

COMMISSIONER. >> AND DO A SERVICE TO THOSE

WHO ACTUALLY -- >> JUDGE BECERRA: RIGHT AND IT WAS CLEARLY NOT SOMETHING ADDRESSED TO ANY COURT MEMBER.

AND IT WAS A DOCUMENT THAT WAS BROUGHT BY MISS MILLER.

AND I EVEN OPENED TO HER BY SAYING CLEARLY I MISUNDERSTOOD.

>> I THINK IF YOU HAD SAID THIS WAY -- I THINK IT WAS VERY

DISRESPECTFUL. >> JUDGE BECERRA: TO --

>> TO A DEPARTMENT HEAD YOU SEEM TO HAVE A HABIT OF DOING JUDGE JUDGE A CONVERSATION POINT THAT I ENDED WITH AND

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HANDED IT TO THE DEPARTMENT HEAD TO SAY CLEARLY I HAVE A MISUNDERSTANDING. HELP ME TO UNDERSTAND.

>> AGAIN IF -- >> JUDGE BECERRA: SINCE THAT IS I SAID. NOT GO THE BACK AND FORTH RUTH BECAUSE THAT IS NOT NECESSARY IN THIS SETTING.

I WILL ASK MISS MILLER TO CONTINUE.

>> THE LAST IS THE VERY LAST SECTION.

THE FAMILY AND MEDICAL LEAVE ACT.

LANGUAGE THAT WAS DRAFTED BY COUNTY EMPLOYEES IN THE PAST AND USING LANGUAGE SPECIFICALLY FROM THE FMLA STATUTE.

WHEN EMPLOYEES RETURN TO WORK FROM FMLA, OUR BRIEF LANGUAGE HAD THE WORD "STATUS" IN TERMS OF RETURNING TO AN EQUIVALENT POSITION. AND "STATUS" MEANS SOMETHING DIFFERENT TO EVERY ONE OF US. THAT IS NOT IN THE ACTUAL STATUTE AND WE RETURNED THAT. REMOVED THAT PARTICULAR WORD.

OTHER EDITS ARE CLARIFYING LANGUAGE.

ONE CLARIFYING -- WE ACTUALLY HAD AN ERROR IN THE GRADE FOR OUR COMPENSATION SECTION RELATING TO SALARY EXCEPTION REQUESTS. WHAT GRADE DO THEY COME TO THE COMMISSIONERS COURT VERSUS WHAT GRADE THE HSA AND THE AUDITOR'S OFFICE WOULD REVIEW THE REQUESTS.

>> JUDGE BECERRA: SECTION 1 B 109 ON DISCIPLINE.

>> SORRY, GO AHEAD. >> JUDGE BECERRA: I WAS GOING TO ASK SPECIFICALLY SO YOU CAN RESPOND TO IT.

FAILURE TO PERFORM THE ACTIONS. I GUESS THE QUESTION IS, WHO WILL ADMINISTER THE DISCIPLINARY ACTION IN THIS HINDERANCE. JUST FURTHER CLARIFICATION, UNDERSTANDING WHAT THE INNOCENT IS.

>> DISCIPLINARY ACTIONS ARE ADMINISTERED BY DEPARTMENT HEADS AND ELECTED OFFICIALS IN SOME LOWER LEVEL AND FIRST-LINE SUPERVISORS. AND DISCIPLINARY ACTIONS ARE NOT ADMINISTERED BY HUMAN RESOURCES.

SO THIS LANGUAGE WE ADDED JUST AS WE ROCK ALONG AND LEARN MORE ABOUT UNEMPLOYMENT. UNEMONOYMENT HINGES ON M MISCONDUCT. AND SO TO HAVE LANGUAGE DEFINING SOME DEGREE WHAT MISCONDUCT WILL BE AT HAYS COUNTY. WITHOUT LISTING SPECIFIC AC ACTIONS OR THINGS THAT COULD HAPPEN.

.> JUDGE >> JUDGE BECERRA: SECTION 2 A-103. COMPENSATION.

I WANTED TO ASK YOUR THOUGHT PROCESS BEHIND THE 113.

AND THEN GRADES 112 AND BELOW. CORRECTION GRADES BASED ON

COURT APPROVAL FROM 2017. >> YES, SIR, SO IN DECEMBER OF 2017, WE BROUGHT AN ADJUSTMENT TO HOW WE ADMINISTER SALARY EXCEPTIONS TO THE COMMISSIONERS COURT COMMISSIONERS COURT.

AND THE COURT APPROVED THE GRADES OF 112 AND BELOW REVIEWS FOR SALARY EXCEPTIONS FOR THOSE POSITIONS WOULD BE MANAGED BY HUMAN RESOURCES AND THE AUDITOR'S OFFICE IN GRADES 112 AND BELOW, THEY ARE PROBABLY NOT DEGREE REQUIRED POSITIONS AND MULTIPLE POSITIONS CREATING THE SAME WORK. GRADES 113 AND ABOVE MANAGERS, SUPERVISORS TO REQUIRED POSITIONS AND THE COURT WILL NEED TO HAVE THE EXCEPTION REQUESTS IN FRONT OF THEM.

IN DOESN'T CHANGE THE LANGUAGE. IT JUST CBTS THE GRADE WITHIN THE EXISTING POLICY INCOR INCORRECTLY.

DID I SAY THAT BACKWARDS? >> OKAY, I DID SAY IT BACK BACKWARDS. I DID SAY IT BACKWARDS, YES.

THANK YOU. 1212 AND BELOW COME TO THE COURT BECAUSE THE EX-EXCEPTION WOULD BE AN ANOMALY FOR THAT POSITION BECAUSE THEY ARE USUALLY MULTIPLE POSITIONS PERFORMING THE SAME -- I DID -- I GOT IT BACKWARDS.

>> AND 2 A 113 UNDER DEMO DEMOTIONS.

YOU ALREADY TALKED ABOUT THAT ONE.

THE SALARY FOR 3%. WHILE I KEEP GOING THROUGH

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THESE NOTES. COMMISSIONERS HAVE ANYTHING FOR HER SPECIFICALLY? WOULD WE NEED FOR ADOPTION OF THE WHOLE PACKET SANS SECTION 2 B 112 FOR I DIGAL REVIEW.

OR DO WE NEED A MOWING FOR T THAT?

>> I WILL MODIFY MY MOTION MO MODIFY THAT AND GIVE US A CHANCE TO SEE IT A LITTLE LONGER AND BRING IT ALL BACK IF WE ADDRESS THE VETERAN GRANT STANDING THAT WE DID.

>> THAT MAY ACTUALLY BE BETTER FOR IMPLEMENT THE EDITS TO HAVE IT IN ONE DAY FOR PUBLISHING AND IMPLEMENTING THE EDIT.

>> YOU WANT TO KNOW BEFORE YOU LEAVE HERE TODAY IF THIS IS THE ONLY THING YOU NEED TO LOOK AT BEFORE NEXT WEEK.

>> OR REACH OUT TO HER NEXT WEEK TO HAVE ADDITIONAL COM COMMENT. IF IT IS ALL RIGHT FOR YOU TABLE THIS TO HAVE ADDITIONAL CONVERSATION AND THEN HOPEFULLY APPROVE THIS NEXT WEEK IF THAT IS OKAY WITH EVERYONE.

>> MIGHT I SAY I WILL BE HERE FOR A WHILE TODAY.

IF I CAN GET THE RESEARCH WILL IT BE POSSIBLE TO REOPEN THE

ITEM? >> SURE TAMPA.

WE WILL TABLE THIS ITEM AND THANK YOU, MISS MILLER.

AGENDA ITEMS THAT PEOPLE ARE IN THE COURT ROOM FLOOR.

THAT IS HE CAN EX- YOURS.

-- EXECUTIVE SESSION. YOURS.

IN ALL GENERAL, OKAY. NOTHING SPECIFIC.

IT IS ALL RIGHT FOR YOU GUYS, I WILL MOVE THROUGH IT 30.

[30. Approve specifications for RFP 2021-P02 Emergency Rental Assistance Program - Administrative Services and authorize Purchasing to solicit for proposals and advertise. BECERRA/MIKE JONES]

DID YOU SAY 30. 3-0.

IF YOU WILL OPEN AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 30.

>> 30, APPROVE SPECIFICATIONS FOR RFP 2021-P 02 EMERGENCY ASSISTANCE PROGRAM, ADMINISTRATIVE SERVICES AND AUTHORIZE PURCHASING TO SOLICIT FOR PROPOSALS AND ADVERTISE.

>> SO MOVED. >> SECOND.

>> JUDGE BECERRA: A MOTION AND A SECOND.

MIKE JONES, YOU WANT TO COM COMMENT.

VICKY -- >> SPECIFICATIONS.

>> WE DISCUSSED THE SPECIFICATIONS FOR THE FORMAL TO ADMINISTER THE EMERGENCY RENT RELIEF PROGRAM.

THE GUIDELINES WILL STILL NEED TO BE ESTABLISHED AND PRODUCED BY COURT AND GIVE US AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO BID ON THIS FOR THE ADMINISTERING OF THE PROGRAM

AND THE AND. >> JUDGE BECERRA: AND THE SOONER THE BETTER. DR. CARDENAS.

>> MARK JONES: YES. >> DEBBIE INGALSBE: YES.

>> WALT SMITH: YES. >> LON SHELL: YES.

[Items 4 - 11]

>> JUDGE BECERRA: YES. OPEN 4-11.

>> 4, APPROVE PAYMENTS OF COUNTY INVOICES.

5, APPROVE THE PAYMENT OF UNITED HEALTH CARE CLAIMS. 6, APPROVAL COMMISSIONERS COURT MINUTES.

IN THE AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED 3 3,110,000 EFFECTIVE APRIL 15 AND POST TOTALS FOR WAGES, WITHHOLDING, DEDUCTIONS, BENEFITS ON HAYS COUNTY WEB SITE ONCE FINALIZED.

8, AUTHORIZE THE JAIL TO UTILIZE SAVINGS WITHIN THE OFFICE OF THE GOVERNOR CRIMINAL JUSTICE DIVISION CORONAVIRUS GRANT FOR PPE SUPPLIES AND AMEND THE BUDGET ACCORDINGLY.

9, RATIFY THE SUBMISSION OF A GRANT APPLICATION TO THE ST.

DAVID FOUNDATION COVID-19 RECOVERY FUND FOR VACCINE DISTRIBUTION AND ADMINISTRATION SUPPORT.

10, AUTHORIZE ON-SITE SEWAGE FACILITY PERMIT FOR 11 RV SPACES AND SIX PARK MODEL RV SPACES LOCATED AT THE HILLSIDE TERRACE RV PARK, EAST PHASE NORTH ZONE LOCATED 680 HILLSIDE TERRACE, BUDA, TEXAS. 11, AUGHTIZE ON-SITE SEWAGE FACILITY PERMIT FOR 30 RV SPACES FOR HILLSIDE TERRACE RV PARK WEST FACE NORTH ZONE LOCATED 680 HILLSIDE TERRACE,

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BUDA, TEXAS. >> WALT SMITH: YES.

>> LON SHELL: YES. >> MARK JONES: YES.

>> DEBBIE INGALSBE: YES. >> JUDGE BECERRA: YES.

[Items 13 - 15]

OPEN 13-15. >> 13, AUTHORIZE ON-SITE SEWAGE FACILITY PERMIT FOR CONVENIENCE STORE AT 2709 EAST FM 150, KYLE, TEXAS. 14, AUTHORIZE THE EXECUTION OF AMENDMENT NUMBER 5 WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF OF THE STATE HEALTH SERVICES FOR THE FY 2022 PUBLIC HEALTH EMERGENCY PREPARDNESS IN THE AMOUNT OF 126 721.

15, AMEND THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE OPERATING BUDGET FOR NEEDED VEHICLE REPAIRS IN WHICH INSURANCE PROCEEDS OF $18,929

WERE RECEIVED RECEIVED. >> SO MOVED.

>> SECOND. >> JUDGE BECERRA: WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. PLEASE CALL THE ROLE.

>> LON SHELL: YES. >> MARK JONES: YES.

>> WALT SMITH: YES. >> DEBBIE INGALSBE: YES.

>> JUDGE BECERRA: YES. MR. YOU PLEASE OPEN 22-25 AND

[Items 22 - 25, 27 & 28]

27 AND 28. >> 22, ADOPT AND AUTHORIZE THE COUNTY JUDGE TO SIGN A RESOLUTION FOR SUBMISSION OF A GRANT APPLICATION TO THE TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF AGRICULTURE, TEXAS COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT PROGRAM FOR WATER SYSTEM IMPROVEMENTS WITHIN THE CEDAR OAKS MESA WATER SUPPLY CORPORATION SERVICE AREA. 23, ADOPT AND AUTHORIZE THE COUNTY JUDGE TO SIGN A RESOLUTION AND ENTER INTO A INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT WITH THE CEDAR OAK MESA WATER SUPPLY CORPORATION FOR SUBMISSION OF A GRANT APPLICATION TO THE TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF AGRICULTURE, TEXAS COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT PROGRAM FOR FUNDING AND IMPLEMENTING WATER SYSTEM IMPROVEMENTS. 24, AUGHTU AUTHORIZE THE EXECUTION OF AMENDMENT NUMBER 2 WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF STATE HEALTH SUNSHINE SERVICES TO THE FY 22/23 EMERGING AND ACUTE INFECTION DISEASE GRANT PROGRAM IN THE AMOUNT OF $330,000.

NUMBER 25, AUTHORIZE THE HUMAN RESOURCES DEPARTMENT TO PURCHASE BUN DELL LATITUDE 5520 WITH ACCESSORIES FOR THE COMMUNICATION MANAGER AND AMEND THE BUDGET ACCORDINGLY.

NUMBER 27, ACCEPT THE DELIVERY OF THE CONSTABLE PRECINCT 3 INTERNAL EXAMINATION REPORT. ITEM 28, AUTHORIZE PAYMENT OF 12,342.90 TO TEXAS CRITICAL SYSTEMS FOR WORK PERFORM IN THE FIVE MILE DAM FACILITIES AND AMEND THE BUDGET ACCORDINGLY.

>> SO MOVED. >> SECOND.

>> JUDGE BECERRA: A MOTION AND SECOND.

ON 27, CAN YOU TELL US ANYTHING ABOUT THAT?

ANY FINDINGS? >> COMMISSIONER, THE AGENDA ITEM IS A DELIVERY JUDGE JUDGE YOU DON'T SHARE DETAILS?

>> IT IS IN THE PUBLIC RECORDS AND IT IS IN THE BACK-UP AND CAN SEND THINGS. OUR WORK PAPERS ARE PROTECTED UNDER THE PUBLIC INFORMATION ACT.

FOR COMMISSIONERS COURT, WE DELIVER IT TO YOU SO IT IS ON

RECORD. >> JUDGE BECERRA: NO RECAP

ALLOWED IS WHAT I AM SAYING? >> I DID NOT POST IT THAT WAY.

INGALSBE IT IS VERY CONCERNING I WILL SAY.

>> JUDGE BECERRA: WHAT IS T THAT?

>> VERY CONCERNING I WILL DAY. AND IF ALL WE ARE DOING IS

ACCEPTING IT AND NO ROOM FOR -- >> ISSUES TO FALL FOR FURTHER THANK COULD INVOLVE LITIGATION AND OR OTHER INVESTIGATIONS.

>> JUDGE BECERRA: OKAY. >> I BELIEVE IT IS SELF-EXPLANATORY AND LIKE COMMISSIONER INGALSBE AND

EXTREMELY DISTURBING. >> JUDGE BECERRA: PURELY TO

ACCEPT IT. >> DEBBIE INGALSBE: YES.

>> LON SHELL: YES. >> MARK JONES: YES.

>> WALT SMITH: YES. >> JUDGE BECERRA: YES.

[31. Discussion and possible action to approve Amendment # 2 to the Advance Funding Agreement between Hays County and the Texas Department of Transportation (TxDOT) for the RM 12 and RM 3237 Intersection Improvement project and authorize the County Judge to execute the Advance Funding Agreement Amendment # 2 on behalf of Hays County. SHELL/BORCHERDING]

WILL YOU PLEASE OPEN NUMBER 31. >> 31, DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO APPROVE AMENDMENT NUMBER 2 TO THE ADVANCE FUNDING AGREEMENT BETWEEN HAYS COUNTY AND THE TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION FOR THE RM 12 AND RM 3237 INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENT PROJECT AND AUTHORIZE THE COUNTY JUDGE TO EXECUTE THE ADVANCE FUNDING AGREEMENT AMOUNT NUMBER 2 ON

BEHALF OF HAYS SPACE. >> SO MOVED.

>> SECOND. >> JUDGE BECERRA: COMMISSION

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SHELL? >> LON SHELL: THE INTERSECTION OF RANCH ROAD 12 AND 3237 INTO WIMBERLY AS YOU CROSS THE BRIDGE OVER THE BLANCO RIVER. AMENLDZ THE AFA TO BE IN LINE WITH THE SHIFT OF FUNDING WITH RESULTED IN 323,000 OF FEDERAL FUNDING ORDERED FOR THIS PROJECT THREE OR FOUR YEARS AGO BY CAMPO. YEAR AND A HALF TO TWO YEARS AGO CAMPO DECIDED TO REALLOCATE THAT AND, THEREFORE, WILL HAVE TO AMINUTE THE AFA AND AN AMENDMENT THAT IT SHALL THAT TAKES CARE OF IT. JUDGE JUDGE THANK YOU.

PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. >> DEBBIE INGALSBE: YES.

>> LON SHELL: YES. >> WALT SMITH: YES.

>> MARK JONES: YES. >> JUDGE BECERRA: YES.

[32. Discussion and possible action to approve the Advance Funding Agreement for Locally Funded Transportation Project On-System (RM 12 at Jacobs Well Rd.) and authorize the County Judge to execute the Advance Funding Agreement on behalf of Hays County. SHELL/BORCHERDING]

PLEASE OPEN 32. >> 32, DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION APPROVE THE ADVANCE FUNDING AGREEMENT FOR LOCALLY FUNDED TRANSPORTATION PROJECT ON-SYSTEM AND AUTHORIZE THE COUNTY JUDGE TO EXECUTE THE ADVANCED FUNDING AGREEMENT ON

BEHALF OF HAYS COUNTY. >> SO MOVED.

>> SECOND. >> JUDGE BECERRA: MOTION AND A SECOND. COMMISSIONER SHELL?

>> LON SHELL: YES, SIR, THIS IS JACOBS WELL ROAD WITH RANCH 12. A NEW F A A.

WE DID PRIM ENGINEERING ON THIS PROJECT AND DECIDED TO TAKE IT TO THE NEXT PHASE WHICH IS DESIGN AND THIS FAA EXPLAINS THE ROLE OF THE COUNTY AND THE STATE IN THIS STAGE OF THE

DESIGN. >> JUDGE BECERRA: PERFECT.

I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT OUR DIRECTOR BORCHERDING.

JERRY BORCHERDING IS IN THE ROOM IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FOR HIM. PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

>> MARK JONES: YES. >> LON SHELL: YES.

>> DEBBIE INGALSBE: YES. >> WALT SMITH: YES.

>> JUDGE BECERRA: YES. ON TO COMMISSIONER JOAN, OPEN

[33. Discussion and possible action to consider the release of the maintenance bond #PB03016800239 in the amount of $131,119.00 and the acceptance of roads into the county road maintenance system for Sunfield subdivision, Phase 3, Section 3. JONES/BORCHERDING]

AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 33. >> DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE TOONG CONSIDER THE RELEASE OF THE MAINTENANCE BOND NUMBER PB 03016800239. IN THE AMOUNT OF 131,119 IN THE ACCEPTANCE OF ROADS IN THE COUNTY ROAD MAINTENANCE.

>> MARK JONES: NEWER ROADS WERE PLACED ENTIRELY -- THEIR ROADS AND WILL NEVER BE PART OF OUR COUNTRY ROAD SYSTEM.

HOPEFULLY WE WILL BE GETTING TO THE END OF THESE AND HAVE A SEPARATE RECOMMENDATION FOR THIS ONE.

>> JUDGE BECERRA: NICE. PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

>>. >> LON SHELL: YES.

>> WALT SMITH: YES. >> MARK JONES: YES.

>> DEBBIE INGALSBE: YES. >> JUDGE BECERRA: YES.

[34. Discussion and possible action to consider the acceptance of road construction & drainage improvements, release the subdivision bond #41420699 in the amount of $1,028,339.75, and accept the 2-year maintenance bond #118578F in the amount of $94,122.95 for the Trails at Windy Hill subdivision, Phase 2. JONES/BORCHERDING]

PLEASE OPEN NUMBER 34. >> DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO CONSIDER THE ACCEPTANCE OF ROAD CONSTRUCTION AND DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENTS, RELEASE THE SUBDIVISION WOND 41420699 IN THE AMOUNT OF $ $1,028,339.75 AND ACCEPT THE TWO-YEAR MAINTENANCE BOND NUMBER 118578 F IN THE AMOUNT OF $94,122.95 FOR THE TRAILS AT WINDY HILL SUBDIVISION,

PHASE 2. >> SO MOVED.

>> SECOND. >> JUDGE BECERRA: COMMISSIONER JONES. .

>> MARK JONES: SAME ON THIS ONE.

I BELIEVE WE HAVE STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS.

>> JUDGE BECERRA: ALL RIGHT. PLEASE CALL THE ROLE.

>> WALT SMITH: YES. >> DEBBIE INGALSBE: YES.

>> LON SHELL: YES. >> MARK JONES: YES.

>> JUDGE BECERRA: YES. ON TO COMMISSIONER SMITH.

[35. Discussion and possible action to authorize the County Judge to execute a Contract Amendment No. 1 to the Contract between Hays County and Pape-Dawson Engineers, Inc to provide construction engineering, inspection & testing (CE&I) services related to Hays County Road Improvement Projects on an as-needed basis. SMITH/BORCHERDING]

PLEASE OPEN NUMBER 35. >> 35, DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO AUTHORIZE THE COUNTY JUDGE EXECUTE A CONTRACT AMENDMENT NUMBER 1 TO THE CONTRACT BETWEEN HAYS COUNTY AND PAPE-DAWSON ENGINEERS TOINGD PROVIDE CONSTRUCTION ENGINEERING, INSPECTION AND TESTING SERVICES RELATED TO HAYS COUNTY ROAD IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS ON AS-NEEDED BASIS.

>>. >> SO MOVED.

>> SECOND. >> JUST ONE OF THE THREE RESPOND DENSE FOR THE RFQ WE HAD.

THIS IS AN EXTENSION AN IF YOU WILL STAFF RECOMMENDATION.

>> LON SHELL: YES. JOAN JONES YES.

>> WALT SMITH: YES. >> DEBBIE INGALSBE: YES.

>> JUDGE BECERRA: YES. PLEASE OPEN 36.

[36. Discussion and possible action to authorize the County Judge to execute Change Order No. 5 for a time extension to a Professional Service Agreement between Hays County and M&S Engineering, LLC for the Low Water Crossings, Precinct 4 (Bear Creek Pass/Sycamore Creek Road) project as part of the 2016 Road Bond Program. SMITH/BORCHERDING]

>> 36, DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION TO AUTHORIZE THE COUNTY JUDGE TO EXECUTE CHANGE ORDER NUMBER 5 FOR A TIME EXTENSION

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TO A PROFESSIONAL SERVICE AGREEMENT BETWEEN HAYS COUNTY AND M & S ENGINEERING, LCC FOR THE LOW WATER CROSSINGS, PRECINCT 4, THAT IS BEAR CREEK PASS AND SYCAMORE CREEK ROAD PROJECT AS PART OF THE 2016 ROAD BOND PROGRAM.

>> SO MOVED. >> SECOND JUDGE JUDGE

COMMISSIONER? >> WALT SMITH: YES JUDGE IF YOU REMEMBER WE BROUGHT THIS BACK, ONE OF THE 2016 ROAD POND PROJECTS. WE SWITCHED ENGINEERING FIRMS AND NEED TO GIVE THE NEW GUYS TWO MONTHS TO DO INITIAL OUTREACH TO THOSE PROPERTY OWNER AND TOOK AN ADDITIONAL TWO MONTHS TO GET OUTREACH AND GET RIGHT OF ENTRY AND THOSE KIND OF THINGS WITH THOSE PROPERTY OWNERS AN JUST AUTHORIZING THAT HE CAN TENSION OF TIME.

>> JUDGE BECERRA: PLEASE CALL THE ROLE.

>> MARK JONES: YES, >> DEBBIE INGALSBE:

[38. Discussion and possible action to accept fiscal surety for the street and drainage improvements in the amount of $1,312,418.44 for Sunset Oaks, Section 4, Phase 1A Subdivision (Bond #0722785). INGALSBE/BORCHERDING]

>> WALT SMITH: YES. >> JUDGE BECERRA: YES.

38. >> 38, DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION TO ACCEPT FISCAL SURETY FOR STREET AND DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENT IN THE AMOUNT OF $1,312 418.44 SUN SET OAKS SECTION 4, PHASE 1 A SUBDIVISION BOND 072785.

COMMISSIONER. >> DEBBIE INGALSBE: THANK YOU.

THIS SURETY IS TO ENSURE FOR THE COMPLETION OF ROADS AND

DRAINAGE IN THIS SUBDIVISION. >> JUDGE BECERRA: WHAT A GREAT TOOL ISN'T IT. PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

>> WALT SMITH: YES. >> MARK JONES: YES.

>> LON SHELL: YES I THINK INGALSBE YES.

[39. Discussion and possible action to accept fiscal surety for the street and drainage improvements in the amount of $1,197,784.00 for Sunset Oaks, Section 4, Phase 1B Subdivision (Bond #0797172). INGALSBE/BORCHERDING]

>> JUDGE BECERRA: YES. OPEN 39.

>> 39, DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO ACCEPT FISCAL SURETY FOR STREET AND DRAINMENT IMPROVEMENTS IN THE AMOUNT OF $1,197. 8 84 FOR SUN.

SET OAKS SECTION 4 PHASE 1 B SUBDIVISION, BOND 0797172.

>> JUDGE BECERRA: COMMISSIONER INGALSBE.

>> DEBBIE INGALSBE: THING THING, THE COMPLETION OF ROADS

AND DRAINAGE. >> LON SHELL: YES.

>> MARK JONES: YES. >> WALT SMITH: YES.

>> DEBBIE INGALSBE: YES. >> JUDGE BECERRA: FINALLY

[40. Discussion and possible action to authorize the County Judge to execute the Fourth Amendment to a Professional Services Agreement (PSA) between Hays County and Lockwood, Andrews & Newman, Inc. executed on or about October 31, 2017 for Right of Way Service for Dacy Lane, Phase II from Amberwood Loop to Hillside Terrace, road widening and realignment project. INGALSBE/JONES/BORCHERDING]

NUMBER 40. >> 40, DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION TO AUTHORIZE THE COUNTY JUDGE TO EXECUTE THE FOURTH AMENDMENT TO A PROFESSIONAL SERVICES AGREEMENT BETWEEN HAYS COUNTY AND LOCKWOOD, ANDREWS & NEWMAN INC. EXECUTED ON OR ABOUT OCTOBER 31, 2017 FOR RIGHT-OF-WAY SERVICE FOR DACY LANE PHASE II FROM AMBERWOOD LOOP TO HILLSIDE TERRACE ROAD

WIDENS AND REALIGNMENT. >> SO MOVED.

>> SECOND. >> DEBBIE INGALSBE: TWO ADDITIONAL FUNDS NEEDED FOR TIS PROJECT.

REALLOCATING FUND FROM APPRAISAL REVIEW FEES TO ACQUISITION SERVICES. FOR NEEDED EASEMENT ON THIS

ROADWAY. >> JUDGE BECERRA: PLEASE CALL

THE ROLL. >> WALT SMITH: YES.

>> DEBBIE INGALSBE: YES. >> MARK JONES: YES.

>> LON SHELL: YES. >> JUDGE BECERRA: YES.

[41. Discussion and possible action to amend the Countywide Operations Department budget to pay for expenses related to the COVID-19 vaccination clinics in the amount of $20,000 and amend the budget accordingly. BECERRA/T.CRUMLEY]

PLEASE OPEN 41. >> 41 DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION TO AMEND THE COUNTYWIDE OPERATIONS DEPARTMENT BUDGET TO PAY FOR EXPENSES RELATED TO THE COVID-19 VACCINATION CLINIC IN THE AMOUNT OF $20,000 AND AMEND THE BUDGET ACCORDINGLY.

>> DEBBIE INGALSBE: SO MOVED. >> SECOND.

>> JUDGE BECERRA: MISS CRU CRUMLEY?

>> TAMMY CRUMLEY, DIRECTOR OF COUNTYWIDE OPERATIONS.

THIS, AGAIN, IS REQUESTING FUNDS FOR OUR COVID-19 VOLUNTEER FOOD WE ARE AGAIN NOT PAYING FOR ANY OF THE FACILITIES THAT WE ARE USING. WE ARE NOT PAYING OUR VOLUNTEERS AND NOT PAYING OUR FIRST RESPONDERS TO VACCINATE THE INDIVIDUALS. THE FOOD COST THAT EATING US -- NO PUN INTENDED -- UP. WE WERE ABLE TO GET DONATIONS FOR THE WOOD AND TRYING TO BUY LOCALLY.

SUPPORT OUR LOCAL RESTAURANTS. BUT WITH BETWEEN $500 TO $700 PER MEAL, RESTAURANTS THAT CAN'T AFFORD TO DONATE THAT ENTIRE COST TO US. WE ARE GETTING DISCOUNTS, BUT ASKING THEM TO DONATE THAT ENTIRE FEE FROM THE LOCAL RESTAURANT IS NOT SOMETHING THEY CAN DO.

BUT WE DID THIS WEEK SOMEHOW MANAGE TO GET THE ENTIRE WEEK'S WORTH OF FOOD DONATED. THANK GOODNESS.

WHEN WE ARE AT THE WIMBERLY FIRST BAPTIST CHURCH THEY PROVIDE ALL THE MEALS TO US WHICH HAS BEEN JUST A LIFE

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SAVER FOR OUR BUDGET AND THIS WILL COVER US FOR A MONTH WORTH OF WOOD COST WHICH IS FOUR DAYS -- FOUR WEEKS.

WE ARE HAVING OUR THREE TOF FOUR-DAY CLINICS.

HAVING LUNCH AND DINNER. >> JUDGE BECERRA: ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONERS. PLEASE CALL THE ROOM.

>> DEBBIE INGALSBE: YES. >> MARK JONES: YES.

>> LON SHELL: YES. >> WALT SMITH: YES.

[Items 43 - 45]

>> JUDGE BECERRA: YES. PLEASE OPEN 43.

>> 43, DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO AUTHORIZE ON-SITE SEWAGE SYSTEM PERMIT FOR THE HILLSIDE TERRACE RV PARK EAST PHASE SOUTH ZONE AND GRANT A VARIANCE TO SECTION 10 E TABLE 10-2 OF THE HAYS COUNTY RULES FOR ON-SITE SEWAGE FACILITIES AT 680 HILLSIDE TERRACE BUDA, TEXAS.

>> JUDGE BECERRA: OPEN 44 AND 45 WELL.

>> 44, DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION TO AUTHORIZE ON-SITE SEWAGE SYSTEM PERMIT FOR THE HILLSIDE TERRACE RV PARK, WEST PHASE HOUSE ZONE AND GRANT A VARIANCE TO SECTION 10 E TABLE 10-2 OF THE HAYS COUNTY RULES FOR ON-SITE USAGE FACILITY ON 680 HILLSIDE TERRACE, BUDA, TEXAS.

45, DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION OF AUTHORIZE ON-SITE USAGE SYSTEM PERMIT FOR THE HILL SIDE TERRENCE RV PARK WEST PHASE SOUTH ZONE AND GRANT A VARIANCE TO SECTION 10 E. TABLE 10-2 OF HAYS COUNTY RULES FOR ON-SITE SEWAGE FACILITIES AT 680 HILLSIDE TERRACE BUDA JUDGE JAWJZ MOTION AND SECOND.

MR. PACHECO. >> ASKING FOR VARIANCE OF 10-2, MORE SPECIFICALLY THE REQUEST IS REGARDING THE PROPOSAL -- THE DISPERSALS AREAS FROM PROPERTY LINE SETBACK DISTANCE.

OUR RULES REQUIRE 20 FEET. AND THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING TEN FEET. THE JUSTIFICATION TO THE REQUEST IS DUE IN PART TO THE SECONDARY TREATMENT WILL BE IMPLEMENTED FOR ALL THE SYSTEMS. FURTHERMORE, THE CURRENT STATE SETBACKS WOULD ONLY REQUIRE FIVE FEET OF DISTANCE. MEETING THE STATE BUT ASKED A

VARIANCE FROM OUR DISTANCE. >> JUDGE BECERRA: HAVE OTHERS

REQUESTED THIS IN THE PAST? >> YES, AS A MATTER OF FACT, WITH HE HAD A REQUEST FOR THE SAME PROPERTY TWO YEARS AGO.

I WANT TO SAY MAY 2019. WE HEARD THIS REQUEST AND ACCEPTED THE REQUEST ALMOST IDENTICAL.

>> ALMOST CONSISTENT. THAT IS THE MOST IMPORTANT TO ME. GOOD.

COMMISSIONERS, ANY COMMENTS? AND YOU RECOMMEND APPROVAL TO

STAFF -- >> THEY CAN'T RECOMMEND.

>> JUDGE BECERRA: OR STAU STAFF.

>> OUR INTERIM MANAGER REVIEWED THE DESIGN AND FOUND THE REQUEST ACCEPTABLE. AT THIS POINT IN TIME, FURTHER

ACTION WILL BE DONE BY COURT. >> JUDGE BECERRA: COMMI COMMISSIONER, WE ARE GOOD. NOTHING ELSE? OKAY. PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

>> WALT SMITH: YES. >> LON SHELL: YES.

>> MARK JONES: YES. >> DEBBIE INGALSBE: YES.

>> JUDGE BECERRA: YES. PLEASE OPEN 46.

[46. Discussion and possible action to adopt a resolution in support of legislation redefining boundaries of Anthem Municipal Utility District. JONES]

>> 46, DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO ADOPT A RESOLUTION IN SUPPORT OF LEGISLATION RED REDEFINING BOUNDARIES OF ANTHEM

MUNICIPAL UTILITY DISTRICT. >> MO MOVED.

>> SECOND. >> MARK JONES: THIS IS OFF OF 150. ORIGINALLY LARGER -- WHEN THEY DID IT THE FIRST TIME IT WAS A LOT LARGER AND THE CITY OF AUSTIN AND THE NATURE CONSERVANCY TOOK 280 ACRES OUT FOR CONSERVATION AN WON'T BE DEVELOPED AND A SMALL ARE PROJECT THAN WHAT WAS ORIGINALLY PROPOSED.

SO A LOT OF THE CITIZENS AROUND THAT AREA IS HOPE WITH THIS CHANGE -- HAPPY WITH THIS CHANGE.

>> JUDGE BECERRA: ANY OTHER COMMENTS.

PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. >> LON SHELL: YES.

>> DEBBIE INGALSBE: YES. WALT SMITH YES.

>> MARK JONES: YES. >> JUDGE BECERRA: YES.

AND I THINK WE ARE ON TO OPEN AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 56.

[56. Discussion related to the Hays County inmate population, to include current population counts and costs. BECERRA]

>> 56. DISCUSSION RELATED TO THE HAYS COUNTY INMATE POPULATION TO INCLUDE CURRENT POPULATION

COUNTS AND COSTS. >> JUDGE BECERRA: SO THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE SENDS ME A REPORT, AND HERE IT IS.

EVERY WEEK. THE MAXIMUM JAIL CAPACITY IS

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410 INMATES. JAIL STANDARDS RECOMMENDS HOLDING 10% OF THAT CAPACITY OPEN TO LOWER OUR CAPACITY TO 368. THE AVERAGE WAS 507 AND PEAK WAS 510 ON APRIL 4-APRIL 7 -- THE WEEK OF APRIL 4-APRIL 10.

THE COST FOR OUTSOURCING INMATES WAS $46,745.

THE AVERAGE NUMBER OF OUTSOURCED MALES IS 113.

AND FEMALES ARE 0. THIS WEEK'S INMATES WERE HOUSED IN THE FOLLOWING COUNTIES, ATASCOTIA, BURNETT, COMAL, FT.

BEND AND GUADELUPE. WE HAVE AN ENTRY OF -- DURING THE MONTH OF MARCH 20-'21. THE COUNTY JAIL TRUSTEES WORKED 4471 HOURS AT A RATE OF $12 AN HOUR, WHICH GENERATED A SAVINGS FOR THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE OF $ $57,25.

THE JOBS PERFORMED BY THE TRUSTEES, KITCHEN, LAUNDRY, CLEANING AND SPECIAL ASSIGNMENTS.

ARRESTS BY AGENCY. PWUTDA POLICE, 7.

BPS. HAYS COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE, 61. WHICH INCLUDES COURT-ORDER COMMITMENTS, INDIVIDUALS TURNING THEMSELVES IN, WARRANT PICKUPS. KYLE PD, 25.

SAN MARCOS, 33. TEXAS STATE UNIVERSITY, 3.

[EXECUTIVE SESSIONS]

I THINK AT THIS POINT IN TIME WHAT IS LEFT IS EXECUTIVE SESSION. AND I SEE NO REASON WHY WE SHOULDN'T OPEN ALL OF THEM. SO IF YOU WOULD PLEASE OPEN 49,

50, 51, 52, 53 AND 54. >> 49 EXECUTIVE SESSION PURSUANT SECTIONS 551-071 AND 551-072 OF THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE CONSULTATION WITH COUNSEL AND DELIBERATION REGARDING THE PURCHASE, EXCHANGE OR VALUE OF RIGHT-OF-WAY ALONG CREEK ROAD IN PRECINCT 4.

POSSIBLE ACTION MAY FOLLOW IN OPEN COURT.

50, EXECUTIVE SESSION PURSUANT TO SECTION 551-071 AND 551.074 OF THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE DEB LIBERATION REGARDING EMPLOYMENT AND DUTIES OF ALL POSITIONS WITHIN THE HAYS HAYS COUNTY TREASURER'S OFFICE POSSIBLE DISCUSSION AND OR ACTION MAY FOLLOW IF OPEN CO COURT.

51, EXECUTIVE SECTION PURSUANT TO SECTION 551-71 AND 551-07 4 OF THE TEXAS FEDERAL GOVERNMENT CODE AND CONSULTATION WITH COUNSEL AND DELIBERATIONS REGARDING EMPLOYMENT AND DUTIES OF THE HAYS COUNTY DEVELOPMENT SERVICE DIRECTOR POSITION.

POSSIBLE DISCUSSION AND ACTION MAY FOLLOW IN OPEN COURT.

52, EXECUTIVE SECTION PURSUANT TO SECTIONS 551.AND 551 .074 OF THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE, DELIBERATION REGARDING EMPLOYMENT AND DUTIES OF ALL POSITIONS WITHIN THE HAYS COUNTY COUNTY OFFICE OF GENERAL COUNSEL.

POSSIBLE DISCUSSION IN OPEN COURT.

53, EXECUTIVE SESSION PURSUANT TO SECTIONS 551-071 TO 551.087 OF THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE. CONSULTATION WITH COUNSEL AND DELIBERATION REGARDING ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT NEGOTIATIONS ASSOCIATED WITH PROJECT OUTLOOK AND PROJECT VALKYRIE.

POSSIBLE DISCUSSION AND OR ACTION MAY FOLLOW IN OPEN CO COURT. AND 54, EXECUTIVE SESSION PURSUANT TO SECTION 551 BE 071 OF THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE.

CONSULTATION WITH COUNSEL PENDING AND OR CONTEMPLATED LITIGATION INVOLVING HAYS COUNTY.

POSSIBLE ACTION MAY FOLLOW IN OPEN COURT.

>> JUDGE BECERRA: SO WE ARE GOING TO START WITH AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 50. AND IF YOU WERE NOT DIRECTLY TIED TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 50, PLEASE VACATE THE COURT ROOM AND WE WILL GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION.

AND WE ARE GOING TO TAKE -- I THINK WE AGREED LAST WEEK TO TAKE A SHORT LUNCH AND STEP INTO INTERVIEWS AT 1:00.

SO IF YOU ARE IN THE PUBLIC, PLEASE KNOW THAT IT WILL BE A LONG TIME BEFORE WE RETURN.

>> WE ARE BACK FROM EXECUTIVE SESSION.

WE ARE GRATEFUL WE HAVE LOTS OF PRODUCTIVITY.

WE WILL BEGIN WITH COMMISSIONER SMITH ON 49.

DO YOU HAVE EMOTIONS? >> THE FIRST AUTHORIZED CHANGE

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ORDER TWO TO THE AGREEMENT. FOR THE CREEK ROAD BRIDGE PROJECT EXTENDING THE TIMELINE BUT LEAVING THE TOTAL NOT TO

EXCEED THE AMOUNT UNCHANGED. >> SECOND.

>> A MOTION IN THE SECOND. >> COMMISSIONER SMITH.

>> YES. >> COMMISSIONER.

>> YES. >> YES.

>> COMMISSIONER JONES. >> YES.

>> JOSEPH. >> YES.

>> THANK YOU, JUDGE. AUTHORIZE EXECUTION OF A PURCHASE AGREEMENT BETWEEN HAYS COUNTY AND THE BRANCH FOR EASEMENT AND A CONSTRUCTION EASEMENT ASSOCIATED WITH THE CREEK ROAD BRIDGE PROJECT AS PRESENTED IN EXECUTIVE SESSION.

>> SECOND. >> COMMISSIONER.

>> YES. >> SMITH.

>> YES. >> COMMISSIONER.

>> YES. >> JONES.

>> YES. >> I MOVED AUTHORIZE EXECUTION OF A PURCHASE AGREEMENT BETWEEN HAYS COUNTY AND SIMMONS FOR THE RIGHT OF WAY EASEMENT AND A TEMPORARY CONSTRUCTION EASEMENT WITH THE PROJECT AS PRESENTED IN EXECUTIVE SESSION.

>> SECOND. >> PLEASE CALL THE ROLE.

>> YES. >> COMMISSIONER SMITH.

>> YES. >> COMMISSIONER.

>> YES. >> YES.

>> ITEM NUMBER 50. >> MAKE MOTION TO CONVERT THE ASSOCIATE SLOT 0079 ã004 GRADE 109 TO A FINANCIAL ANALYST EFFECTIVE APRIL 16, 2021 UTILIZING THE TREASURES OFFICE CONTINUING EDUCATION FUND AND AMEND THE BUDGET ACCORDINGLY.

>> SECOND. >> PLEASE CALL THE ROLE.

>> COMMISSIONER JONES. >> YES.

>> YES. >> YES.

>> COMMISSIONER SMITH. >> YES.

>> JUDGE. >> YES.

>> COMMISSIONER JONES, 52. >> THANK YOU.

AUTHORIZE ADDITION OF A PARALEGAL FOR THE OFFICE OF GENERAL COUNSEL. EFFECTIVE APRIL 16, 2021.

DISCUSSED IN EXECUTIVE SESSION AUTHORIZE COUNSEL AND THE HR DIRECTOR TO FINALIZE THE DESCRIPTION, ADVERTISE THE JOB OPENING UTILIZING COUNTYWIDE SALARY SAVINGS.

>> THANK YOU. >> MOTION AND A SECOND.

>> COMMISSIONER SMITH. >> YES.

>> JONES. >> YES.

>> COMMISSIONER. >> YES.

>> COMMISSIONER. >> YES.

>> YES. >> A MOTION ON 54.> WE ARE DONE. DO NOT THINK WE HAD A MOTION FOR 54. GO AHEAD.

>> THANK YOU. A MOTION TO CONFIRM GENERAL COUNSEL AUTHORITY TO ASSIGN CASES UNDER HIS COUNTIES ONGOING ENGAGEMENT LETTER. WITH THAT FIRM ON A CASE-BY-CASE BASIS. ON OCCASION WHEN THESE CASES DO NOT QUALIFY FOR COVERAGE UNDER HAYS COUNTY POLICY WITH TEXAS

ASSOCIATION OF COUNTIES. >> SECOND.

>> A MOTION AND A SECOND. >> COMMISSIONER JONES.

>> YES. >> YES.

>> YES. >> COMMISSIONER SMITH.

>> YES. >> YES.

>> NOW COMMISSIONER JONES. >> WE ADJOURN.

>> THANK YOU. HA

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